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The Green New Deal

The BreakPoint Podcast

04:28 min | 2 years ago

The Green New Deal

"Bone. She didn't think the government can save the world and provide our every need. Yes. It's ridiculous. But it will take more than laughter to answer this very misguided. Worldview. The Colson center, I'm John Stonestreet. This is breaking believing that the impossible becomes possible. By congressional mandate is the essence of what Jackie Lou called the political illusion. That allusion was unclear display last week when freshman New York congresswoman, Alexandria, Cossio Cortez and Massachusetts Senator Edward Markey released what they call the green new deal the summary of their plan was posted on a causE' Cortez's website Thursday, but then taken down after mockery and criticism. Even from within her own party this green new deal was billed as a solution not only to climate change, but pretty much to all of society's ills and is more ambitious than either it's depression, era, namesake or Al Gore's wildest dreams writing. At the federalist David Harsanyi described the proposal as an overhaul of modernity. Among its stated goals was to eliminate all fossil fuels, including oil, coal and natural gas as well as nuclear energy all within ten years. It also promised to phase out ninety nine percent of existing automobiles and all other combustion engine vehicles. Whether on land air or sea, replacing them with electric vehicles for which charging stations will be built. And I quote everywhere once that's done. The legislators went to retrofit every building in America. Yes, that's a quote again with state of the art energy efficiency. They also want the ground all airplanes within a decade and replace them with high speed rail. No word yet on how much the railway to Hawaii will cost the green new deal. Also promised a family sustaining wage family, medical leave vacations and a pension for every American as well as free education for life, including college trade school, healthy food, safe affordable. Adequate housing and economic security for everyone even if they're unable or get this unwilling. To work second Thesselonians three ten gives a clear response to that idea. As many commentators noted the green new deal is really an attempt by a radical wing of the Democratic Party to signal its idiological purity, according to Jonah Goldberg at national review, this is more utopian Christmas list than it is legislation. Even if congress word pass it which will never happen. They couldn't actually act on it and any real sense. And yet is Harsanyi points out. It's worth noting that during its very short life the proposal garnered endorsements from democratic presidential hopefuls. Cory Booker, Kamala. Harris, Elizabeth Warren Kirsten gillibrand, Julian Castro and Baidoa Rourke because it struck such a chord with this up and coming side of the party. We'd be foolish to dismiss it. As mere posturing, but to be clear there is a worldview behind this green new deal, which is Goldberg writes is dangerous. The proposal like every worldview answers at least two questions. What's wrong with the world? And how can we fix it on both counts? The green new deal is profoundly out of touch with reality rather than human evil, the breakdown of the family or the compromise morality the green new deal identifies the modern economy as the problem, and then promises to dismantle it without offering any viable replacement whatsoever. It also guarantees free money housing education, healthcare, even food without any realistic way to pay for it in short would have caused you Cortez and Markey offer is the state as our savior. And they seem to believe that this is not only wise, but it's economically technologically possible. As long as Washington will only decree it the green new deal is unfeasible as it may be as an expression of a worldview that's very popular and which dominates left-leaning universities in media. It's he's all problems as political problems, and therefore all solutions as political to that the plan isn't online anymore. You can be sure that more legis. Flation is forthcoming after all so many of the legislators empower right now hold to some version of this utopian vision of the state, and so it could hardly be otherwise, we don't take this worldview seriously, especially and helping the next generation understand and dismantle it. It won't be a laughing matter for long for breakpoint, I'm John Stonestreet.

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Ep 75 | Rebuild My Church | Guest: David Harsanyi

The Steve Deace Show

1:38:17 hr | 2 years ago

Ep 75 | Rebuild My Church | Guest: David Harsanyi

"And the load. This is Steve dates. The Steve day show. And greetings, happy Tuesday. Thanks for tuning in here today. Live and on demand on the blaze. I am Steve day Stott in Aaron are here with me as well if you'd like to join us, it's eight eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three that's the number eighty eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three you can also like us on Facebook. But they don't like us there. So you need to like us a lot for to show up. You can also follow us on Twitter at Steve dais show, and you can Email the program Steve at Steve day Stott com. For those of you listening, the ablaze radio or on a podcast today on demand last name is spelled DACA. And if you are listening to a podcast today, if you wouldn't mind if you haven't done this yet, if you would mind leaving us a five star review at the podcast platform of your choice. We would greatly. Appreciate that thousands of you have done this already. Thank you very much coming up a little bit later on. It's pop culture Tuesday. We're gonna look at a couple of the world views of recent major Hollywood releases. Also, we're going to look at the Trump tax cuts here, and what are some of the mitts, and what are some of the facts surrounding the thousands who were going to be killed if we cut taxes last year, not we're full year into this. And we just had tax day yesterday. David Harsanyi of the federalist will be joining us to talk about that. Plus, another weekly addition of fake news or not Aaron and Todd will decide is this fake news or not that's coming up a little bit later on. But we love to support worthwhile causes with our show, and there is no worth wile 'cause maybe in all of the universe than the word of God. And that's we're back to Jerusalem comes in is one of our partners. They're based in communist, China and their mission their heart. Their ministry is to take the word of God to what are called closed countries. All over the world. Why are they closed because these are nations ruled by oppressive regimes who try their best to close their people off from the scriptures. They don't want them inspire. They don't want them hope filled because inspire. Tired and hope field people have less of a tendency to tolerate being oppressed. And so the mission of back to Jerusalem is to take God's word to places like communist, China, Somalia, Iran, North Korea at cetera. But they need our help. They have put the bible in a small electric downloadable form. It's about the size of a pill that allows it at least makes it easier anyway to get past the gatekeepers in these oppressive regimes if you wanna help fuel their ministry, here's how blaze help dot org is the website. You can go to blaze help dot ORG or you can give them a call at eight four four three. Oh, five zero five six six eight four four three zero five zero five six six. And now here's Erin with what happened while we were away. What happened while we were away brought to you by up in flames yesterday, the world launched as one of the planet's most iconic landmarks, and one of the Catholic churches most recognizable cathedrals burned Notre Dame. Theodora in Paris began construction in eleven sixty three and was completed in thirteen forty five shock spread as the cathedral's spire, and then the rest of its roof collapsed in flames Barilla firefighters were able to contain the fire to the buildings upper structure, meaning the two bell towers are still intact as soon as the flames started to subside a photographer for Reuters was able to sneak inside the cathedral and captured this stunning photo. Despite the charred ruins surrounding it the altar and empty cross at the front stood standing on burned. They're not yet conclusive reports. As to what started the fire officials have said that the ongoing restorations to the centuries old building could have something to do with it. There are conflicting reports about the opening of a criminal investigation into the matter. Ansi Pelosi has been taking shots at the socialists slash Alexandria, Cortez wing of her party on Sunday. She told sixty. Minutes. She likes to minimize the conflicts within her caucus between the moderates and the progressive who have these wings, a OC and her group on one side, it's five people know the progressive group, it's more than I'm if aggressive. Yesterday. She said this Senate events when we warned this election. It wasn't in districts like mine or leagues Andrea's. However wonder she's a wonderful member of congress all of our colleagues will attest, but those are districts that are solidly democratic this glass of water would win with the next. We are. Who snap in completely unrelated news, a new Emerson national poll of Democrats shows Bernie Sanders with a healthy twenty nine percent lead over Joe Biden's twenty-five percent? The rest of the field is at or below nine percent. It's making a Bernie Sanders. He did a town hall style event on Fox News yesterday evening. You know, when you wrote wrote the book, and you made the money. Yeah. Isn't that the definition of capitalism? The American dream. No. He also said do you believe that women should be able to terminate a pregnancy up until the moment of birth? Look that that happens very very rarely. And I think this is the made into a political issue. So I think it's rare it's being made into a political issue. But at the end of the day, I believe that the decision over abortion belongs to a woman, and our physician not the federal government, not to stay. The whole thing was a disaster. But seriously kudos to Bernie Sanders for being as honest as we'd expect him to be going on Fox News Democrats in Ohio State legislature offered an amendment to that state's heartbeat legislation giving an exemption to black mothers wishing to abort their children the amendment was struck down. But remember, we are the racists. The mullahs report will supposedly be officially released on Thursday. So I'm sure we'll be treated sue some level headed self possessed and lucid analysis of that document when it's released and finally we go to Paula India where villagers there partake in a religious festival where they fleeing bold feces at each other in completely unrelated news this village does not have access to Twitter. And that's what happened. Well, we were away. Aaron's montage brought to you by our friends at ridges own. A lot of study say were pretty much at the point that most of our New Year's resolutions have failed by now. And if you've lost the resolve on what is annually America's number one resolution, which is to get healthier to lose weight. There's chances are it's your own fault. I mean, we don't believe in fake victimology on the show. 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Satirical affect. I mean, actually proposed put into legislative form that is the most blatantly racist policy. I have witnessed in my career. Based on the color of your skin, you have different abilities or rights than the rest of them. Yes. Yeah. Especially the right when it comes to the right to life. Me see based on the color of your skin. You have less of a right to life in the rest of us thirty precedent for this. Think of a time. History where. That's been proposed before. Our let's get to it. The big story. I want us to talk about. And this was going on right as we were finishing the show yesterday when this blaze began and. The cathedral at at. Notre Don to went down in flames in Paris yesterday. And. I started to say a couple of things about this yesterday. And I could tell by the way some of you were reacting you were freaking out. So I stopped in decide I'm gonna sit on this for a while. And you know, I do my normal routine before every show where I go find the cornerstone the men's room here and do my best to get prayed up. So if you think if you think my tongue is a little loose. Imagine what it would be. If I didn't do that whole prayer thing before the show began every day. Right. So and one of the things I wanna make sure I do is. I don't mind saying something. That get your tidy whitey's in a bunch. I. That new slash you think to literally anybody. That's watching this for more than the first time. It's why I'm sitting here. Yes. But I- specially when we're talking about hefty spiritual matters like this. I there's a there's a different layer of gravitas. It's not that we don't we don't try to be responsible with what we say on this show every day, but it's a little bit. Like, you know, the playoffs in. You're an athlete you bring it every single Sunday if it's an NFL team or every five six days a week if it's major league baseball, right? But when you get to the postseason just seems like whatever this this is there's a little bit more at stake here. Right. And this is a this is a matter, I think of a Mets spiritual heft. And so I think it it calls for an extra layer of responsibility here on my part. So before I share my thoughts here is what I want to do. There is wisdom in a multitude of counsel someone to let the two of you actually share your thoughts. I think it's only fair given that you are the resident Catholic you're on the show. It's only fair for you to begin your thoughts. My thought says, you know, I talk about we try to be Medicare keeping you back. I mean, that's really what the church is is is supposed to fundamentally do bring you back to first things and that which was built over the course of more than one hundred years nine hundred years ago, the good the true and the beautiful simply to point to the glory of God. Was lost. And that is a great chain. But it's really remarkable. When you watch those joining one another on the river is at the the whereas sign the and watching the still burning Jonas singing Ave Maria. Now that that should not just be. A pause button on a weird day when this thing goes down, then you get on with the rest of your life. If this church still has all the meaning it was originally built for and I think we all know we just saw poll within the last couple of days just across the pond in London about how less than half of the professed Christians in Great Britain believe in the actual reservation and atonement of sin by Jesus Christ. It's not any better in France. That is one of the least least practicing centers of Christendom in the world just to put some data on that two percent two percent of French population identifies. Evangelical for example, to now it's the number is going to be more in terms of those who professed to be Catholic. But that that that's still going to be a small number. And then the ones who actually. Actes are going to be in that residence. That means that that building there and good I've talked I know people in my parish that have been posting on Facebook. They been there recently. It is still a holy place for those practicing. But for for the people talking about this as a symbol of France. It's it's a piece of our identity. If you're living the way you're living in professing the way to you're professing, and you call it that, but all of the things that originally caused it to be built you're not only ignoring but you're laughing at on a regular basis. That's just a whitewash tomb there for the most part and the instant instantaneous rate we have to build it. Again. I say why. I know why I would want it to be Bill. But why all of you want it to be built again, perhaps you just need to stare at? The smoldering ruins for awhile. Perhaps for decades. You know, there was this people call the Israelites that had to wander forty years in the desert too. So they were done before God started anew with his people maybe instead of rushing to rebuild that thing. You just need to sing hymns in front of a smoldering ruin for a while until you remember that the only reason worth building something that beautiful is ultimately to glorify God and not to constantly be petting yourself on the back how many days before yesterday. Did they stand out in front of that cathedral and sing Ave Maria? I think it's a small number Steve air. What are your thoughts? Yeah. I was thinking about this a lot yesterday. And I. On purpose did not go on to whether or try to get my hot take. There is enough of that there were people making jokes about it too. Which is just dumb. But I I I have several I have several thoughts. Of course, the first thing was what is responsible for this in the first thought, of course is as well. How come the other three hundred thousand days that were not holy week since this thing things construction, I can't over three hundred thousand days that were not during holy week that this structure has been standing how come it never caught on fire during I mean, there's been restaurant. How come it never just caught on fire like that three hundred thousand days not holy week since its construction began. That's the first thing. I don't think it's a coincidence. I don't think it's a coincidence at all for one reason or another you can determine what that is. The second thing is I expressed on numerous occasions, my respect and affinity for classical. And classical meaning old style Catholic architecture because there is nothing you walk into a classic basilica or or cathedral. There is nothing that is merely functional. There is nothing just we have these polls just to hold up that there's there's symbolism rooted in God's were behind rooted in in the bible behind almost everything in every cathedral that I've been in. I took bright interest in this in college. Because where I went to college one of the biggest buildings on campus was a former convents, and so the, of course, the that it's Anjelica all of the icons have been removed. But one of the greatest things as walking around campus in my historical theology class one day and looking at all of the meaning behind the architecture and some of these buildings and the the. The inspiration to and wonder at the majesty of the almighty, even if you're not a Catholic seeing the seeing seeing the imagery behind all of the architecture. There is really a sight to behold, and that's why I have such a great affinity for that. And I I remember eight years ago in two weeks, I visited France with with an orchestra, and I got to go inside the Notre Dame cathedral. And it's stunning. But one of my favorite memories of that trip was in Geneva, actually, and you go into the cathedral were John Calvin used to preach, and we played there. One Sunday morning and great doors opened at the back of this cathedral. And the bells started ringing to call people to worship and a doors open, and you could see out over the rooftops of Geneva, and you could see the Alps in the background. And it was a beautiful. Just a stunning of edifice a beautiful place to play music. And to worship the doors closed maybe dozen and a half people walked in that church that morning to worship. And so when I'm looking at this in your moved for basically, the same reasons that that Todd is because these churches these cathedrals were built. And the meaning behind the architecture. Everything has a meaning and I could get into the specifics. But the meaning behind the architecture is not to be in and of itself an object of glory. It is meant to point you to your creator and be in all of him, and to be inspired to be in all of his of his majesty and seeing that thing burn that has been closer to a millennia on its feet than not. Seeing that that edifice burn is a reminder that nothing in this world is eternal if that building invokes you to on what should what should we we we were made in the Omar imago day. And we're speaking spiritual sense. But our bodies will be destroyed our works. Great and small will be destroyed some day everything of this world or nothing of this world is eternal that should be incredibly sobering. When you watch a building, especially that's been up that lar- that long. It was around for a lot longer than anybody else on this planet will ever be around or most of their works will ever be around that should be incredibly sobering. And that's that's the biggest takeaway I had for Mr. day. So I I didn't tell you. I was going to do this before the show started. And we didn't even compare notes on our thoughts. We have discussed this at all. We haven't discussed it all into what would you say? Rarely do do we didn't discuss this at all until he went live on the air. But you guys have kind of heat up for me. What it is. I want to say about this. When I'm noted the timing of this yesterday on Twitter, it had really nothing to do with asserting. What is the cause? Okay. I mean, I understand there's been a rash of church desecrations in France. And really throughout Europe, for example. It's absolutely possible. And the this is an accident. It's absolutely possible. They're lying to us about whether it is or not. But one of the things, you know, we we've been doing this series on on on Easter for theology. Thursday. And. You know, God loves to take poetic license. We have been tire book of the bible that it's one of the largest that is a poetic license soaps metaphors allegories foreshadowing. And. To watch the reaction to this cathedral burning yesterday into watch political Twitter react to this. Save the paintings. What beautiful structure? As if this is just an act as if this is an emblem of the renaissance. When this thing has stood for an E on. It was it was there centuries before the enlightenment centuries before the renaissance. And it's it's a it's a beacon to what used to be known historically as Christendom. Which in a secular way we refer to these days as western civilization. And you know, this comes at a time that western civilization is in a desperate attempt to diminish if not end itself altogether in just voluntarily, you know, this isn't there's no Normandy conquest are no Visigoths. Really? We're you know, we are literally saying we're just kinda tired of being it's top of the cultural food chain unless just give you know, let's give paganism shot again. And watch a lot of people who promote the new paganism. Either literally being worked up over this or feigning being worked over this. And I don't know them enough to know, which it is. But if you really wanna know. What I think is happening here. It's the shot that Aaron showed in the montage. All of the ornate gone. And what stance? Is a pulpit in alter in the cross. Upon this rock, I will build my church and not even the gates of hell will prevail against it. Not the gates of hell not the burning. Flames of hell as this goes up in flames yesterday. There was a story late last night that the original stone foundation of the building. Was preserved. The stone. The builders rejected. Has become the cornerstone. This thing stood. For nearly an EON. Even stood up to global warming guys. It's stood up to the Moore's it's up to the reign of terror when the French revolutionist winning their took down the iconography of Christianity removed the Virgin Mary and made sacrifices to the goddess of reason and though sacrifices included church. Clerics? It's up to Hitler. The kaiser. And it just so happens to go up. Holy week. Out of nowhere. And what remains? Is the foundation. And the cross. Cheeses rebukes disciples for failing to understand the signs or to read or acknowledge the signs of the times. I'm not here to debate with you what caused this. That's not the conversation. The conversation is. The message that comes out of this. While the world set there and mourned, and listen, it's not like, we don't need more beauty in this world. Okay. But while many of those who want to return us to the old paganism that structures like that cathedral are monuments to Christendom conquering. They want to take us back to a world pre eleven sixty three. They wanna take us back to a world. Of wicker men, and may parades and paganism. Human sacrifice. They wanna take us back to world. Many of the people that were crying yesterday on political Twitter. Oh, the artwork. It's like what you said. What is it? What was that mean to you? What's the what's any of this symbolism mean? All of the symbolism is gone. Except for the most powerful and meaningful symbols of them. All. The stone. The builders rejected has become the cornerstone. The stone foundation remains. The cross remains. Basically everything else has gone. Let those with ears to hear. Let them here. Someone is speaking very loudly. Are we listening? Are we paying attention? Are we capable of hearing that kind of message anymore? Do we want? Do we want to hear it? Yeah. And the messages will get pardon the expression progressively louder. Until that someone decides. I don't think they wanna hear. I don't think they wanna listen. Dave exchanged the truth for. Ally. And that's they've been given over to their own. Depraved mines instead. Don't. Church. Don't get all worked up about. Who or what was the cause? Nearly as much. S who or what is speaking through? What remains? What remains? What was the last time? You saw any story or coverage of this cathedral in your life in your life. Let those with ears to hear let them here. Back here on the Steve day show here live and on demand on the blaze one of our new partners here on the show is called relieffactor. I'm looking forward to trying this product myself because I am one of those folks who just tested daily deal with soreness pain, as I get older workout schedule. I try to keep you know, it's estimated over fifty million Americans may miss work due to pain American spent about two grand per year on pain relief. I'm one of those sixty six percent of Americans have just kind of decided I'm just gonna have to kind of live with this and managed to some respect. 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Are let's get to pop culture, Tuesday and quick little audible is I got a note from an old high school buddy of mine, by the way. So Ross black port if you're listening you prompted this in old high school buddy of mine sent me a note last night. And this is pop culture Tuesday. We look at the intersection between pop culture and conservatism each Tuesday here on the show for a segment, and he wanted to know what were the top three resurrection movies for family viewing. He says that I haven't seen the passionate and it sound. But I'm wondering if it might be a little too much for my ten year old. All right. So I gave him three just off the top my head. And I didn't have a lot of time to research this. The the passion would be number one. I think we've probably all would agree. It's too intense for a ten year old. Thank my two oldest daughters. Saw it when they were around twelve ready for it. I one right now who's eleven and just her. She's not ready for it. Yeah. Noah saw for the first time in eleven last year. The other the girls didn't see it until they were twelve so, but in I there's certain things we just know kids shouldn't see. And then there's a lot of things when you ask me. Well, my twelve year olds I don't know your twelve you know, this one I'm pretty good pretty cool with saying at the very least ten is too young to see this movie. Yeah. I think that's okay. But but it would be number one on the list number two just off top my head. That's a recent movie. If you've not seen the movie risen with Joseph fines risen is great. I mean, it is a it's a remarkable film. And it tells the story of the resurrection through the eyes of a a Roman investigator who is set to investigate the soldiers that allowed the the the body of this. You know, troublesome carpenter from Nazereth to be taken. So that his followers could claim was reser. Erected. And so it follows the resurrection. But from the other side of the of the looking glass, and you know, I've I've kind of. Shown a penalty to like stories the do things like that. Okay. So arisen is exceedingly well written Josephine's as is it's exceedingly well acted. So I would highly recommend that. And that's that would absolutely be fine for a ten year old. Yes. Okay. And then I threw one in just specifically that's kid oriented, this one's about twenty years old. And I forgot that Raytheon's was actually in this one. Okay. So if you're looking for something that is directly for kids. And of course, you have all the classic veggietales stuff as well. But the miracle maker was was something that came out nineteen ninety nine two thousand and Ray fines place Christ in this. And it's fairly it. I haven't seen. It instance, our kids were little, but from what I can remember the orthodoxy. And this is pretty good. I haven't seen it. Yeah. And and it uses a lot of. Modern animation slash kind of what you see with the LEGO movies kind of things at the same time from what I remember. So since I got this last night. I just thought I and I responded to it old high school buddy of mine. I thought I'd share it with the rest of the audience. If you're looking for things or tips that stuff to watch I've got on my DVR at home. I'm gonna try to watch them this weekend. But there's a series on Jesus his life that was recommended by several people whose opinions I respect, and I think it was done by history or the Discovery Channel. Oh, well, and that's normally why I'm out. Yes. Normally, I would be like you mean the ancient alien. Didn't even do history channel anymore. It's just it's it's ancient aliens every night. Now, I think Senator Chuck Grassley has asked answer this questions at least five thousand times on his Twitter account. Yes. That that that guy an ancient alien with the funny hair? He's like the guy feary of the or Fiari, whatever the guy's name. I love that guy skin. Remember how Brown's last name, but guy fe- fear? If you are you gotta roll the talian. I can't do it though. He's like the guy Fiari of the of the history channel he's like on the present on that channel. He's kind of their most recognizable face now complete there. But this is actually very well done from what I'm told. I've been DVR ING they've been running it as a whole series leading up to this weekend. Obviously, you say the title it think it's called Jesus his life or something. And so I've been DVR ING it. I have a chance to watch it. I will watch it here. Maybe as soon as this weekend. So I was gonna DVR the whole series and watch him. And I'm at the point. Now, are you guys? This point where you can't do episode of television. I can't do it. I mean, I I am so conditioned now. Like when when my kids were old enough to watch flash. And and and so we went back and watched season one on Netflix and then season two on Netflix and got and they were caught up and they were like. Well, we don't want to like, watch episodes. We'll just wait until the season ends in may when it goes on Netflix, watch them all in a row. And I thought that was give you like a real hard adjustment for me. 'cause you know, are you still at the point where you can read books on on a tablet? I can't do it can you? No, I never will be even as young guy. You can't do it can't because I thought we old guys. I can't read a book on a tablet. I can't do it. It just doesn't it doesn't feel right on the other hand. I don't need. I don't need to hold a newspaper. Do you? No, no. But the generation older than us is like I can't read newspapers I need the feel of the newspaper. I'm just so used culturally, you know, so I I don't need to me holding a newspaper would feel weird. You know, I don't I can't do books on tablets yet. It just kind of feels awkward like it's not really the reading of book to me. But I thought this adjustment of going to just waiting, and I thought there's no way I can avoid the spoilers breakdown. I gotta watch it. I'm actually totally fine with it. You know? I think the only show episodic show that I am actually watching. Episodic style right now is Gotham. And the only reason I'm doing it. Because what I had done the previous few seasons just DVR mall and watch them in a row until they started showing up in the flex. This season's the last season it's leading up to Bruce Wayne becoming Batman at the end. And so given that I know there's no way to avoid any spoilers. You know? So there's no way that just kind of put it in the put him in the Bank and watch them later. So I have been watching that as it goes along. Just because I given what's at stake in the final year. I know that I can't avoid that all the steps that my Twitter feeds and everything all the time. But I'm at the point now that I just I don't watch shows. I don't watch a lot of shows in general, but I don't I don't watch them one at a time. I just can't do it anymore. Can you? Well, I wasn't watching much episodic television before DVR's far ahead DVR's life had already kind of trend. That's I was trying to raise you know, four consecutive daughters and same with you. I mean at some there was just it was that it was survival in you're watching veggie tales or something like that. So I guess I never had to make the transition. Yeah. My kids are just like, and they're they're they're eighteen fourteen and twelve and they just are from an era where the idea that they would just wait for a week to find out what happened next. There's from a different, you know, we don't we do that. We try to raise our kids the way we think that they're going to be able to be survivors. Yeah. But have you how much have you thought about? I'm sure you have I have like how much just that kind of stuff makes you inherently weak the next generation just think that's how much I answer to. Like after Gutenberg, invented the printing press. I wonder if the old set around, you know, if they don't pass these traditions and stories on orally people won't learn to think for themselves, but delayed gratification that's a grownup quality oral. Well. The meticulous righty monks writing out copies of bibles at places like Notre down cathedral over the course of many years Jewish Jewish scholars meticulously by hand making sure every word of Hebrew every letter matches the what was passed on down to them. And now, the similar is going to print these off and handed out to people in all kinds of languages. I wonder if that made them lazy in the fifteenth century is the same argument, isn't it? I kinda think that it is. I think there's a multitude of ways we are going soft. That's not one of them. That's just how technology and cultures small evolve. Well, there's you know, there's lots of studies about cell phones, and it's actually changing. How brains work how the inability to interact with humans in a way that heretofore was normal. Now normally past the ends we go back. There was a lot of murdering and pillaging. I use a cellphone like five hours every day. I'm just fine. Step off. I mean as opposed to, you know, in an era where no human being was within a twenty mile radius, and you had to write letters to everybody, you know, when they had their really good human interaction stuff like that. I'm just seem kids these days, man. You know, what our parents looked at us and said have you seen kids these days with their parents to them and said damn Gleneagles? Have you seen kids these days with their parents, like the democrat have kids seeing his, you know, their parents like to them and said Namie the generation of parents who look this is not what I intended. I talk about when since we're here by golly, let's vets. If you wanna get nuts. Nuts name me. And I'll wait Namie the generation of parents who looked at the next generation of kids and said, I really think things are gonna get better. I'll wait. No. That's not true. That's ever happens. All the time all really waiting. Gimme one. You really don't think that's happened. I don't think it's ever happened in all of human history. No, I totally disagree. I promise you what we call the greatest generation. I promise you the day before Pearl Harbor December sixth nineteen forty one the day before the day before I guarantee a Paris looked at the those young people and said, and they wanna sit around they wanna dance the Charleston. They want to go to the movies. They don't wanna work. They don't want to take over the family farm. They don't wanna they don't wanna work in the in the factories. I mean, they wanna prolonged LS since we just come out of the roaring twenties which basically invented teenagers. Okay. I promise you the day before that was going on. I promise that. That's that's just a cliche for it happens specific generations. But there's other generations that have been named rightly proud Damon. Preemptively proud. I'm not talking about rightly proud preemptively proud Namie one generation that didn't look at the next generation and say preemptively doomed here, we're done. Give me one. I don't like effort. That's that's just not true six thousand. I keep asking I'm giving you six thousand years of a framework pick one tell me what that you pick one that. Definitively take everyone gives you with everyone. Specifically, though, take all of them. That's specifically. That's easy. That's not even an argument argument. Some things are easy. That's not ravaged. He's not an argument. It's a law of nature. It's not an argument, we're not arguing gravity. It is this is this is another law of nature every generation believes the next one is the doom every single one. And by the way, history shows often that's been true name your perpetual civilization is there ever been a perpetual civilization. Okay. So there's been a perpetual kingdom, you know, is alluded to in the last second. But but that's not a civilization Daime perpetual civilization. There's never been one addiction argument, which means at some point the the next generation was the fifteen the argument that the founding fathers didn't believe they wouldn't have done. What they did. They they believed in a Republic if you can keep it, but they believed fundament Thomas Jefferson. I fundamentally believed that the next generation born under freedom could perpetuate it. Okay. And they. They. Now that generations get a us right there. Are you kidding me? There's there's some deliverance. If you know what I'm saying ADD. Amy. Yes. But at the same time, they were they were paranoid about you know, what would happen if they handed these kinds of freedoms and stuff to generation that wasn't responsible and capable of receiving paranoid about they practiced they wide and shoot him. Why isn't serpents says they didn't believe we're gonna give you this new birth of freedom. But you guys are definitely going to screw it up. And what's the point? Anyway. No, they did it because it was worth doing. And I didn't think of risk of it being screwed up. That's that's a different question. Of course. There's a risk in every generation. But it doesn't mean that every generation thinks that the next one is a screw up universal John Adams came home from the con- kind of congress thought, I've really I'm not sure my sons are at the point yet, they can take on what's that about my own kids. But I also think that I'm also raising kids that can and will answer the bell. Aaron as a Representative of the next generation is most assuredly going to miss your thoughts on triggered right now. By Todd's words, still coffee. Singling us out once more. I do need to save space. Perhaps avocado toast, Steve single you. There's hope in you. And really oh boy. I completely missed the last conversation carry on. I'm sorry. I'm actually, no. That's what I. Yeah. Gas lighting come on. Now, this is not much different. I mean generation X was going to be the end of this. We were going to we were falling for political correctness in video games and everything we were to be the end every generation feels this way. This started a conversation about what technology your thoughts on shoes. Zam? So. Yeah. We can go to that. I'm sorry. It was a conversation about the trappings of what you started talking about with technology, instant gratification. Do we delay any gratification? Just we are in the middle of the season of lent. There's a reason why we do that it it. It's it's an order, and you Abeille a couple days ago talked about the importance of humility can we truly humble if we must have have now now now, that's that's really really hard. I I completely agree with that. I know that's why I think it's a holistic human condition. I don't believe this generation's technological challenges. They're more dramatic. But I don't find them different. Meaning I think the advancements are more dramatic, but at the heart. You know, automobiles internal combustion engines made instant gratification easier. The written word made instant gratification easier. The printing press made instant gratification easier in a way, that's always the trade off with any technological advancement. I think where this generation is is is is more ill prepared errands generation is more ill prepared. Is that they're the previous generation didn't act on their fears of what would what the next generation was capable of. But cuddled with them and enable them instead and said, you know, what you're right. You probably did go into that school and shoot everybody because they bowl Jew. So let's stop keeping scores at games. And let's let's take away anything that might hurt your feelings whatsoever. Okay. So now, we've got Instagram stars, which I didn't know even existed crying on videos because their accounts got suspended, and they can't they and they and they say I can't quote blinking go back to a real job. All right. That is something previous generations would not have done. I agree with that. Because the expectations that would have been foisted upon them from the the pre existing generations wouldn't have tolerated that on any level. Everybody would have taken turns taken that brat behind the woodshed, and and and and break in their foot off. Yeah. But that's the fault of the of the older generation. I agree. I don't believe. I don't believe the millennials are the are the the problem parents and grandparents are this goes to what you said about that argument a couple of days ago, but it's it's not their fault. It's not their fault that technology was born of this time, but it's like with the bible having individuals each having nearby bible is value neutral position. It's what you do with the same with a cell phone. I might gland. I have a personal bible. But it's a Catholic argument and arguments down that everybody has a bible are we more clear about what the bible means. I don't think we are at any point in human history. It's that kind of argument. She's really good pet cemeteries. Not. Our next. And we're back with our to live and on demand on the blaze. I'm St. days Todd and Aaron are here with me as well. Aided eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three is the number to the blaze. You can also like us on Facebook. But they don't like us there we've been shadow bands. 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Steve dot com and get fifteen percent off of your first order when you use promo code Steve at brickhouse Steve dot com. David are Sahni is here with us from the federalist davir back on the show. David. How are you? I'm well. Thanks for having me. So you've been doing a lot of stuff about taxation and Trump's taxes and the tax plan and looking back on the outrage and the dead that we were promised the the mounds of bodies that we were all promised with take take place. If taxes were cuts, if you don't mind, though, I just want to take a brief detour on something that is in your Twitter feed that is. Tax related, but I wanna I wanna let you highlight this audience is aware of it. Okay. So yes yesterday. And I don't think this timing was was coincidental is Bernie Sanders is doing national townhall on Fox News. One of his primary rivals beta or work unveiled what is it ten years of his taxes or something going back to two thousand and eight correct. And you went back and look through his taxes because you're just a swell guy. You're I mean, you're a public service. So we appreciate that about you, David you like you went back and found what percentage of his income had he donated to charity over the last decade this quickly want to say that I stole that number from someone else camp back to some sort of a conduit not a real public servant. I think it's three one percent of his taxes went to charity. A guy who is four confiscating property who wants huge socialist tax raises and everything else. Can't personally in isn't. He I think he's married to a billionaire or something he gave point zero three one percent of his income in taxes to charity. Let's there's two ways to look at that one is there's an obvious, you know, political hypocrisy angle at play here. But I'm wondering is that the low lying fruit? And here's why because according to their worldview. You know, if with a wife, that's a billionaire. He's paying what the top one percent pay. What is it ninety percent of the of the of the income taxes in the country or something like that? Right or eight percent, something like that. So they're paying an a lion's share of income tax with that kind of income, according to their status belief system. That's that's tight in an effect right there. Heavy Tigers, right? Is that another way of looking at it in a way. No, I think it's the right way to look at it. I think when when you view the state as sort of the church in the do gooder and the person who's gonna save person in the institution that's gonna save communities in where all our morality comes from you view that is enough. I mean, you don't really see the need to help in other ways. I think Democrats Pacific -ly progresses, but more and more Democrats viewed the state as the means of charity is the means of lifting people out of poverty is the means of doing anything. That's good. So why would you waste your money in time? The state is crowding out charities more way. The ways of one we've for longtime seeing the conservatives, especially social conservatives give the most amount of money in this country. And I think that's definitely one of the driving reasons. Why you don't see these candidates? Not just beta but others as well giving so little I mean, he knew he was going to run for president. You think he's just drop a few thousand charity, just write better. But but in there. In their primary. He can argue. Hey, I've I've paid more to the church of St. than anybody else. I'm married to a billionaire. I mean, he's got he's got the tithing, you know, hall of honor their it doesn't get to get a green jacket on this in the status tithing hall of fame with that number. Oh, he's definitely giving more. He'll just say that he wants to give even more if they let him as if you know, he couldn't just send it in himself to the state if the views that as the church, he sherve you to send more money as well. And of course, guys like us with note, this is never voluntary whenever we tell them. We can just pay more voluntarily if you want these guys never never go ahead and sign up for that. Let's go back to original debate on the Trump tax cuts and what I found fascinating at the time. And I kept saying this when this was going on that if you're running ads, and you know, I was one of the where I live here on our. We do our show from for the blaze every day was one of these states that had several battleground congressional districts in the two thousand eighteen campaign, and we were seeing all those. Ads back in two thousand seventeen you know, these tax cuts are raising taxes on everyday Americans yada, yada, yada. And I thought that's one hell of a gambit to preemptively lie to people because at some point these things are going to become law. And and folks are going to get a paycheck, and they're going to pay up, and there's going to be more in there or less, right? And so you're you're to go out there and tell them preemptively that they're not really getting a tax cut that this is all all of this is going to billionaires like beta Aurora, and nobody in suburban Moines and Clive or Windsor heights, you know, neighborhoods by where I live. None of them were going to see a tax cut. When eventually we would actually get to see with our own two is whether there was more or less money in our paycheck. I thought that to be to be adaptable strategy to try at the time, David. Well, there's two things that help that strategy one is that you have basically the whole mainstream media giving that point of view, and sort of confusing the issue or just basically lying about the issue or whatever other problem is I think we're so disconnected away from how we pay taxes on what we pay that a lot of not very bright people think because they're not getting a bigger refund. For instance, actually, you know, not not paying more in taxes. So if it gets confusing for people because of the tax structure itself at us. I'm sure you saw the polls where most people don't even know they got tax. I think over eighty percent of Americans got some who pay taxes got a tax cut, and yet only the majority of Republicans. No, it Democrats don't because. Yeah. Politics has become a faith in people just it's blind faith, and people just believe what they're told rather than what they're actually seeing quite often. How how then would they explain why there was more money in their check out? What would be their explanation for that? I don't know. I guess, you know, a lot of what you're telling me. These people are too stupid to live. So what would be their answer? I'm happy that you said it I. Titus confusing away in in salaries fluctuate and all that stuff. And they don't just realize it or don't wanna believe it. I mean, clearly this tax cut was as most tax cuts. Listen, Democrats, always essentially lie saying that only the richer getting the tax cuts for the majority of tax cuts in that's as you. I know because they pay most of the taxes. So this isn't even more bet. This isn't even better tax than before. It's probably thirty years. We haven't seen anything like this. None of their predictions came true. And I have to blame the administration a little for not really stressing that everyone gonna do a better job on that on that, you know, in in doing that. But other than that. I'm not sure why people don't understand that. They're paying less is this argument therefore that the cut wasn't big enough that they should have cut more. I'm making more obvious. We have to make it more obvious more cuts. I think obviously like more cuts and also by the way, you know, a lot of people believe they're not getting cut because some of the cuts corporate tax rate cuts, which innocence are also cut for consumers end everyday people. They might not notice that right away. But that usually brings down the cost of things. So I'm not sure you know, that sort of hidden an embedded in your everyday life. But yeah, let's have a bigger cut. I think we need to let people know that there are at these sorts of things help them in their everyday lives, will you kinda spoiled where I was going to go next. But let's let's touch on it again. Anyway, because it's a good follow up to what we were just talking about. So they win the previous year, they we- they preemptively lied to people that they weren't gonna get a tax cut that they ended up actually saying with their own two eyes. And now they're being told that. They're they're they're not getting the government's screwing them, which is true. But in this context, it's not because the refunds aren't as big as they used to be except that's because you're paying less into the system. Then you use to again, are we really this dumb? Are we really this dump David? Some people are I think I saw what's her name? Listen Milano yesterday railing against the tax cuts because she pointed out only, you know, six billion dollars less refunds in the year before. So it's obviously some people can be fooled by that sort of thing in, and that's a problem of the electorate, I think that we have not specifically tax policy, but many other policies as well. The claims that the panicked claims you brought this when it was my favorite one of my favorites of the time former Clinton east. Economic guru Larry Summers claiming literally ten thousand people, but a number on it that literally ten thousand people were going to die. All right. Any? Any of these things any of the things they said dire would happen. And I didn't live to see it because I I was already killed off by net neutrality. So for those of you that survive net neutrality, and we're live long enough to see the Trump tax cuts. Come into law did any a single one of the dire predictions that were made any of them come true. No had this long threat. I was building going back to see what people at said, Paul Krugman, Wash- Washington Post, CNN, all these columnists and fact checkers economic writers and stuff like that. And I honestly I got bored of doing there were so many predictions that didn't come true about how the economy was going to just fall apart. How people going to die like you say Larry Summers. How how you know, the the only the rich we're gonna get a tax cut people in big states can get tax cuts not true either. So it's just it was completely wrong. But let's be honest. This is just sort of the default position out. No matter what happens. It's always the end of the world when whether comes to leaving the Paris accord, leaving you know, Iran deal of you know, the tax cuts healthcare policy. It doesn't matter. It's always people going to die because Republicans want to kill them for some reason. And it never comes true. And then they just repeat the cycle over and over. Over again, David Harsanyi is our guest here on the blaze. He's with the federalist. So let's look at this from the other side, you know, and one of the things I try to encourage our audience to do is sometimes a straw man is drama. If it looks like a duck quacks like right sometimes a construct is a construct. But a lot of times the things that we we turn into Stroman and construct s-, aren't they may be affectively or factually that, but they're not intentionally or purposely that mean, they set out to be those things that they may they may self parody themselves into that corner as you, and I've just been itemizing, but from their perspective, they think they're putting forth legitimate discourse here, sometimes so what would be let's look at it from their point of view. Why do they believe these things? I mean, why in fact, let me put a finer point on David. Why do you think they would say they believe things like this? First of all, I don't think everyone believes I think they're cynical politicians cynical columnist who sort of throw this out there because some people do believe it. Why do they believe is because they wanna believe it? It's a matter of blind faith in. I don't think it's a specific policy either. Meaning I think that generally they try to create a perception overall that all these things together, our, you know, our nihilistic that Republicans the poor, and it's not just about one specific policies. Some it's sort of a mantra that they need to repeat no matter what's going on. And our politics have done a lot more emotional. Meaning when I was young you could see someone like Ronald Reagan come around in convince a lot of people that his policies were better than you can win forty something states. And so on today. I don't think that's possible. I think partisanship has become much more ingrained in people and people have much more rigid. So even when they see evidence undermining their claims, they don't believe it. I mean, you know, Muller considers. Collusion you could quote him. But that won't stop people from saying that, you know, Donald Trump colluded with Russia doesn't matter what people say to just continue to believe the things they want to believe in. It's like it is like blind faith, people have in in in religion or G. And it's you know, it's something that's a little different. I think than we've been seeing in America for the last year or we've been seeing something different for the last decade than we did maybe for hundred years before that historically when this occurs. This dynamic that you just described historically when this occurs in a culture, it is similar to a divorce in a marriage. It's a win win. You cease looking. That doesn't mean you're never frustrated by your partner. Human beings are fallible. That is me. They're never wrong that doesn't mean they don't have things to apologize for your legitimately angry. But when you get to the point that the resentment is so grounded that you see giving them the benefit out. You can't bring yourself to find out empathetic -ly, why they might see a situation differently than you didn't fulfill the need that you had that you expected from them when the resentment is so set in that the benefit out ceases, and you, and you just want that narrative to be reinforced, you're describing this on a cultural level and this happens when one or both parties either are not interested in coexisting anymore or just don't think that it's possible. Right. I think you hit on something it used to be that we or at least maybe I'm romanticizing the past. But it seems to me that we used to at least have the same goals in mind. We thought we have you know, we saw problem with different ways of trying to fix that. Problem poverty. Whatever it was an we we went about it in a different way someone in more government someone at lesson. So on I think today, we don't even view the same things as problems where the right might say, we have a illegally coming over the border is, you know, that's a problem we need to fix in some way in the left says, let's break down those walls and let anyone who wants to come over. And I'm sure that they see things, you know, other topics in the issues in the reverse. So that's a big problem. Because now you have to separate narratives two separate ideas about what America should be about two separate ideas about what we should be dealing with. So when you see gridlock in congress. It's not something that's contrived. You have gridlock in congress because you have to separate sides. Just simply can't come together on anything. Congress supposed to be that. When you can't come together on anything. I don't know where that leads. I don't think it leads very good place. They don't really think that we're getting better. I think we're getting much worse. You know in conjunction to what I'm just talking about. So that were is a bit in usually not as pessimistic about the trans am these days. Final thing. What would what do you think of what was the best claim that came true on the on the Trump tax cuts? And then what what was claimed by the administration that you're you're like, yeah. I don't think we saw the result there. We were hoping for. Well, I think the best claim is that most people got a tax cut and that helps everyday Americans. They more money in their pocket. I am idiological for tax cuts because I won't government to have less money. Now, the flip side of that. What didn't come true is that there was echoed comic growth with that didn't lower the deficit, and it doesn't stop, you know, government from spending overspending this get rid of the Kanar isn't been proven to be a Canard. Now, you can't grow yourself out of a deficit. Another words if you don't stop spending. All right like like, you can work out all you want. If you if you consume, you know, a hundred grams of sugar a day, you're not going to have six pack. Abs sit-ups, you do the math just doesn't work. You can't out work all those grams of sugar. So the idea that we can grow ourselves out of deficits without substantive spending cuts has this been ruled Nolan void from this time forward, historically, speaking. I think that that is a hard to argue truth that you just laid out in the end, I think growth is plays a giant part in in in helping with the deficit and debt long term. But in the end, you're gonna have to cut spending somewhere where you're gonna have to reform a reform of spending that that is on autopilot and keeps growing and growing. So at some point you're gonna have to deal with those things or you don't care about the deficit and in truth. It doesn't seem like either party very much cares about the deficit because they don't care about long term problems care about problems political. Problems that undermine them or help them today. So I do add rather cut spending the deficit grow than increase spending in the deficit crow. So. You know, that's where I stand in it. It's unfortunate that we don't care about the debt. But I mean, I don't think voters care that much either. If they didn't it would out people continue to expand spending David Harsanyi over at the federal at you guys do great work. We've always been a fan of you guys site. Thanks for joining us today. David good to see you. Thank them up. Guys, have any reaction to the conversation. We just had from day with David Harsanyi from the federalist, well, I like the idea of cutting taxes, even more. So, you know, this'll be more noticeable for people who are conveniently now. The tax returns are coming in much less. More noticeable for them. But this goes to a fundamental again. I get the people complaining now a fundamental lack of understanding of civics. And I don't mean to be the get off my lawn need to start teaching civic. I mean, this is just basic. Economics one. Oh, one in which it's the number one reason, Steve I think probably why you would say, well, not the number one reason. But one of the reasons why you would say if you had carte blanche power to change anything and he United States. It would be to get rid of withholding because so much would change. If people would just take out their checkbooks once a year or four times a year in Rijeka can't check short of spiritual viable, it is the most sweeping it can happen in our whole culture is that sure. But again, the fundamental misunderstanding of of civics and how our country or are are just in. I our civic infrastructure. I I should say works because people would rather see even if they have to pay more and give the government's a bigger portion of their paycheck for basically on interest free loan. People would rather see a big chunk of money at one time a year, then get a lot more money over. A longer period of time. It's it is mind numbing -ly frustrating to watch. But that's that's the state. I mean, it's it's as much of a cultural problem as it is cutting waste fraud and abuse problem, it is even more. So a cultural problem that it is the ladder and talking about a very specific thing taxes budgets etcetera. You guys kept coming back to basically, our people dumber not. And I don't know about you. But in my interactions out in with people in every walk of life. And when you're a Tate them and that happens on a regular basis, if I'm dealing with schools, or you sports or things like that. It's because these people aren't fundamentally dumb. There's some gray matter up there. But they believe really dumb things, and they hate it. When that's point. And it doesn't matter what your own is the nicest thing, the well, just hey, they wanted to look at my ru Goldberg machine, and I know that. Way too many moving parts, it's really not how this works. This is the truth here that is pervasive. The the lack of our understanding of fundamentals as adults in all walks of life. It's crucial to our demise. Well, it's why would it it's why this is always been throughout my career. The number one change, I would make civically because and the reason why it would have the most sweeping change in in our culture, other than spiritual revival is because. In in the minds east of Eden. Government is the most powerful thing on earth. If we don't acknowledge that God is government is government is the is is is the is the fulcrum. Here government is the it's the measuring stick so minus minus faith in God and obedience to God would government says goes and from time immemorial, you read the Old Testament, you read some of the names of the of the kings that the Israelites conquered in throughout of Canaan, and they referred to themselves as bail name will bail is. Well, we know bales specific reference. Okay. But it's also a general one. All right. So bail is a specific demonic deity of the Old Testament. But it also means 'Lord. And so what they're literally saying is on bail PR. I'm Lord PR. I'm I'm he's claiming some act of divinity. And this is not unique the, you know, the Christian church. I mean found this friction throughout the early throughout its early history and its interactions with the Roman empire. Pre constantine. The idea that Caesar is Lord every government on earth as claimed to be God or have a direct conduit to God. The divine rights of kings. All right. And so one of the reasons when the founders took over the bible, they commissioned wasn't the King James it was the Geneva bible. Right. And because there was a whole controversy. There about was a certain verse amplified to to give the the, you know, the the state make it seem like Romans thirteen gives it more thority than an actually has. I this is not a new argument and what happened. Unfortunately, is we agreed to a system that allowed us to vacate the argument to just not have it anymore and just tell the state you take what you need is give me the rest. Can you imagine? Any of the men that signed that declaration of independence lining up to sign up for that game? Let me give you the let's thought exercise for just a second. We're almost at a time in this segment. Suppose suppose they made numerous entrees to the throne to to the crown. They they made petitions to parliament this went on for years. They didn't just wasn't an edict to raise the stand tax, and they're like hell, no. And they voted their muskets. This went on for years years of debates, please everything else so suppose King George the third. At some point offers them deal and says, I'll tell you what. I'll dial back the level of taxation to it was previously acceptable around here. All honor your request in exchange. Okay. You give me my cut. I. Before you, take yours. Before you ever see it, even my cut? I. Preemptive withholding. I'm asking I don't think founders would have gone for that. The idea that the first claim on their productivity. Went to government. Would we have still fought a revolution? If they done that. I don't know. What do you think I'm asking taken that compromise? Well, at the very least that's the kind of thing that is a cooling saucer. Is it a fulltime compromise? But this is to your point about how the long train of usurp patients, indeed happen. I mean, this this stems from what the French and Indian war happened in the seventeen forties fifties. And it's from then on in organizing that they're after colonists were getting frustrated in what's happening with their lanes. And whose protecting us seventeen seventy is in fact when the Boston massacre. It's you don't have the shot heard around the world until seventeen seventy six. So you're right. That's the kind of thing that it's a it's a grownup conversation is what you're talking about goes back to where we started you're dealing fundamentals. Yes. See I'm not so sure they wouldn't have taken that deal because I've never bought this idea that there were some superhuman generation better than us. I don't believe that I think they had inherent advantages as we've talked about that. And they're they're a pre. Winnie and culture. So, you know, they're not as caught up on the descent of man. And which really means the elevations of man, and the they had read Nietzsche Nietzsche had come around yet to kill God. So they didn't have some of the philosophical mainstream challenges and baggage is associated with them that we do. But they also, you know, many of them went home to slaves. They had they had you generational baggage. We don't either you know, what I'm saying. I don't think this was some superhuman group of human beings. I don't. And so I wonder I wonder if the king had not said, I'll give you nothing and you'll like it and not just once he said this for years, you mentioned it was it was was seventeen seventy five was Lexington. Seventeenth. So five years five freaking years, man. Five five year more years. This went on on top of the years that this went on before that. So if the king had come back, if he had offered them anything other than you'll get nothing, and like it over and over and over again and push them to the point of an by the way, my soldiers are not gonna stay in your home. And show me. We're all your munitions are just so we can kinda register them. Keep an eye on them for you. If he had not just kept double and triple. You're describing dallying. Yes, he put them in. He. Oh, essentially what the right coach does. They offered you the choice. The Democrats do now either use let your throat we do it. What you're what you're option? If off if he offered any other compromise. Dial back the rate, you just give me my cut off the top before you see yours would they have taken it. I suspect I suspect they might have because it's human nature human nature to seek the path of least resistance. What do you think? Aaron is from the generation that we reviled. That is. That's the truth. Yeah. No. That's that's an incredibly interesting analogy because because that basically was the mad king. You know, George saying, hey, what you just said the choice that the left gives us now heads I win tails, you lose our their way. There is going to be resistance. You will be made to care at some point along the line that is fascinating something about we'll come back fake news or not Totten ear and go thumbs up or thumbs down. When we come back here on the blaze. Stay tuned. Real estate agents. I trust was started. Because there is a lot of frustration in buying or selling a home. All right. And it's one of the the most stressful bit of dun-rite one of the most rewarding times in your life because our homes are the biggest investments most Americans will ever have so tired of real estate agents who talked to good game then deliver the goods when they were called upon the most Glenn Beck and his friends started real estate agents. 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Now, looking at media sources or people and sources that are supposedly representing your views and the truth to you. And I who lived in who live in what's left of America. So we're not fact shaking Katie tour anymore. It's a pointless exercise. That's why we it's for the same reason. We didn't put clips of aljazeera and Russia today on fake news. Or not before is the same reason why we're not putting you know clips of CNN and MSNBC personalities now. Now, we will put those networks on if they put people on that are meant to communicate to you. But short of that, we're looking at the is the news that is supposed to be for us. How trustworthy is it? Here's clip number one. Since nine eleven we've had terrorist attacks country. The majority of them have been right wing extremists than the majority of those have been white supremacist attacks from a synagogue in Pittsburgh to a church in South Carolina. And these are white supremacist groups that use language as we saw as far away as New Zealand use our presence language almost as a license for these attacks. I swear in twenty years every fifth grader will believe nine eleven was committed by white supremacists. Totally true. You watch you heard it here. First, they're the real threat. We need to fear and suppress them. Tucker Carlson is he going too far there with that analysis at fake news or not talk? Oh, no. That's he nailed it. It isn't fake news. Tucker Carlson is having quite a run these days, and Steve you've been talking about just earlier this week about how the importance of not letting faulty premises stand. You know, don't sit there in hushed tones and talk about well. Yes, we to have problems that whole that whole stat about you know, what is or is not a hate crime. Who is or is not committing them. These they take great license with statistics to make it that we just got roving bands of white supremacists. In mega hats out there. It's a preposterous notion it should be dismissed on its face and Tucker. I don't know what he said before that or after that if that was in the middle, but that should be your initial row. Just that's a breathless joke in Corey Harris. You aren't a serious person. I heard we again, that's absolutely true news. And I think in twenty years people in my generation or younger are going to open up their thousand dollar monthly liberty stipend from Andrew Young who is still going to be president. And also right after that going to get their huge tax break at the at the in the middle of April every year, and then lament the fact that boy man, I really wish we hadn't gone to those wars all those years ago because of those dang white supremacists. That's definitely going to forgive me. I said Corey Harris. I don't know why refer Gordon. I was going back on the Packers from a decade ago. I apologize thinking com layers that that was probably to Aaron if I went. To pick a college here. Locally Simpson but half hour from here. All right. If I went to Simpson college, and I just randomly grab twenty students. The audience could see the look on his face. Now. He's going to be ripping on millennials here. If I went to the if I just grabbed twenty students randomly and said sure false white supremacists were responsible for nine eleven. How many people do you think of those twenty would say true at Simpson college right now? My roommates goes to Simpson. Oh, I know that he has to he had to take a class called bowling for socialism. Which is I think aim of documentary as well in his first semester there for one of his classes, he was trying to go. He was required to go to a symposium on fat shaming. And most recently he was invited to a drag Queen nights. So does that answer your question or do you want more? Now, I think that that's answer enough. Thanks. How do you ask us questions? Why do I ask any why? Why has any questions let's get to clip number two. Fully pay carcinogen is on the line with us. French elected official who is in Paris now fully pay what what have you seen? And what do you know? Well, I love I wasn't close to what happened, and no I left to play because I we went to let people work around this. Everybody's really under shock now in France. Of course, you will hear this toria, but the politically correct political correctness which will tell you that it's probably an accident, sir, sir. I we're not going to speculate here of the cause of something, which we don't know if you have surveys, it if you have observations or, you know, something we would love to hear it. I'm just telling you something what we need to be ready. No, sir. We're not doing that here. Not now. Okay. Not on my watch Felipe a car cinci. It's very good of you to be here. We're we're watching. All right news are not there Shepard. Smith playing shepherd of the news and of the truth, and what is responsible journalism Aaron I'll start with you. Has he ever watched his show? That's that's total fake news. Now, I have watched his show before back when I had less of a life than I do. Now. I actually did watch his show on a somewhat just you and you're in tables, and you know of a pilot, right? Don't go there dark, but it is. Yeah. The amount of speculation Steve. Well, he actually looks great my family room. I'm sorry. Go ahead. The amount of speculation that I have seen that guy do on just about any new story with coverage of of whatever the news does your of the day is in the. Fox News alert. Oh, Marco shepherd. Watch your show do some air checks and come back, and we can talk to us too. Right. I tried to hard to be a as as possible with this. And I'm thinking, okay. Well, can I see in a situation? I don't neutral. You don't know that it shepherd is it responsible. Adjudicating of the guests on your show to make sure things don't go on the rails. Heck, steve. I know you agree with that. 'cause you walked on the show because somebody wasn't doing it. So that's possible. That's possible. But then you also have to ask yourself with this. It went there so fast with I mean, why did you have this particular person on we're where they vetted did you know, where they were going. So French politician elected officials. So with it would seem that you need to allow him at least a little bit more rope on where to go hard time picking up his accent? When the several times, I watched the clip I don't if I'm wrong. Tell me I don't recall him making a specific allegation as much as a general general this about politically correct explanation. Right. It's not without cause considering the regular occurrence recently is. He didn't make he didn't make a specific allegation. He did he made it he made a general caution against politically, correct explanations. That are convenient and Shepard Smith the one that jumped to we're not doing that here. So isn't would that make Shepard Smith the Islamaphobia? He's the one presuming that this must have this guy must be a an Islamophobe when he never actually said anything about Islamist or or anybody else. Wouldn't that actually make Shepard Smith that person? Then because he's the one presuming that must be that that that he the impunity of general character without specific allegations of racism of low expectations bigotry. Yes, right. All right. This next clip is my favorite in the group, mainly because of the description attached to it. Here's this one is the president serious does he really intend to ship thousands of immigrants all across the country to cities, like New York, and San Francisco and a lot of the places. Certainly we're looking at all options as long as Democrats Chris continue to ignore the crisis at the border continue to refuse to sit down with the president and Republicans in congress and come up with the solution to stop the national security and humanitarian crisis and the number of illegal immigrants that are flooding across our border, and we have to look at all options across the table. So that the town's right there on the border aren't taking on the entire burden and that we're shifting some of that burden. Two places who constantly claim to want to have open borders and want to have an open city. So let's put some of those people into their communities and into their towns and see if they are, okay. Then with that same impact. Again, the big part of the the question, and the the big thing we have to look at here is how do we stop this from being a problem in the first place? We shouldn't have to be putting people and moving them all across the country to spread that out. We should have a border. That's strong. We're that secure were that functions the way that it's supposed to that's the presence number one priority. That's what he'd like to see happen. And that's what he'd liked Democrats to work with him to solve continue to be unwilling to do that. We're certainly looking at all options. I wanna pick up on this Pacific option, though about shipping migrants to sanctuary cities. The president tweeted last night that he has the government has quote, the absolute legal right to do. So, but as has been reported, this was floated by the White House brought over to chess, and they said repeatedly that it was not legal to do. So and also they said counterproductive take a look at some of the objections that DHS raise they said, congress has approved no specific money for this purpose by says, it would be quote and unnecessary operational burden sending them to sanctuary cities, which don't walk rate with federal enforcement of immigration laws would make it harder to round them up later, and it also. Also might be an incentive to more illegal immigration. I guess the question is how do you overcome all of those problems? Again, nobody thinks that this is the ideal solution, but until we can fix the crisis at the where we have to look at all options. This is one of them whether or not it moves forward that's yet to be determined. This was raised at a staff level initially and pushed back on the president wants us to explore it again. So that's being done and they're doing a complete and thorough review. But again, the big thing is if Democrats including the mayors and members of congress in these communities want, these individuals, they should be helping the president frankly, look for solutions to bring them to their communities instead of fighting the president every step of the way, let's work together. Let solve the crisis at the border. Let's figure out how it doesn't make a massive impact on any one particular community. Like, we're seeing a lot of the border towns along or southern we're one of the. All right. So we wanted to make that clip longer to give it as much time as possible because the description associated with this clip, and I'm quoting here. Chris wallace. Methodically destroys Trump's plan to ship migrants to sanctuary cities right to Sarah, Huckabee Sanders face. That's verbatim. The description of that clip. Okay. So given the description of that clip, and what you just saw title start with you this time is that fake news or not. Chris Wallace just showed you the poster child for fake news. That is the fakest of fake news. He what he should be asking is if a border, which is. One of the most basic concepts of sovereignty a well. Regulated in defended border. For it to have come to where we are. Now where a solution like this can be put on the table. That's what he should be. Wondering isn't that? The fact that we are even discussing this as a concept at all a sign of how broken things have gotten. But no, he's acting as if everything is reasonable and gray area nuance up until this point. But now all of a sudden were dealing in crazy line. We try to do something. The Trump is actually saying, hey progressives. You've got an idea over there, you keeping knowing the lawn creating this place where you want them. So we're going to give you even more every premise about this that Chris Wallace takes up is just backwards and. He is better. He's got to be better than this. Go away. He he's not Eric. Yeah. No. This is just one quick comment about this. This is a typical tactic of a left wing media, which is basically all of mainstream media, you notice how he goes to one particular person who says a specific set of facts. Yeah. See we have this expert over here who says this this this, and this why how how did air you? How dare you be contrarian to the expert? Explain yourself. Yep. One final clip here. This. Well, he argues that you're quarrel is with him as a gay, man. And that he says I was born this way. And this is the way God made me, that's your belief. I think I think Pete squirrels with first amendment. Feud is what the that's that. He so you here. Mike Pence comes back. But I think it's quarrels what the first amendment talking about P, but 'age who's having his moment in the sun right now. But this is a feud between but 'age and pets Aaron I'm going to start with you fake news or not. Well, that is that's fake news. Here's what I what I'm focusing on is is his comment. His feud is what the first amendment when I heard him say that the Mike Pence whose knees buckled on Riffa all of those memories came flooding into my brand my sperm count dropped your sperm count dropped. Todd sperm count dropped everyone in this audiences sperm count dropped even the women guys. Guys. If you're going to have this argument with somebody like Pete Buttigieg at all, which we believe you shouldn't because he's just he at least me he just re represents one of locusts in what happens when you try to argue with swarm of locusts you eventually get devoured. If you're going to have this argument, though, at all here's what you cannot do. And it's in your book rules for patriots. You never abandoned the moral high ground guys Pete budges is making a really transcendent. God says. Yep. And like, well the constitution says. Which is higher in the list of priorities, which is high on the totem pole. At least for your own stated faith, Mike Pence, the constitution or God's word. How easy is it to just how easy would've been just to quote Jesus words Matthew nineteen about marriage. How how easy would that have been then hoisting him by his own? How hard is that? If you're going to have this conversation. How I have this argument actually, have it. If you're going to have a feud just half it if you're if you know, if you're going to respond to this at all, actually, come prepared. Don't don't don't do that. Late last year the Manhattan DA's office released a grand jury report noting law enforcement received a couple of grand worth of complaints about Dade fraud. Almost all of them from what was called a faulty Notre relations nice way of saying attempted forgery. All right. And you've got you've got this because this is the most valuable asset. Most Americans have so criminals are looking for vulnerable properties. They're scanning the obits looking for prospects. Don't let your home be the next thing. 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Biden Is Completely LYING About Ghost Guns | 4/9/21

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Biden Is Completely LYING About Ghost Guns | 4/9/21

"The glenn beck program so satan shoes in the news also the Big gun control announcement from joe biden. Yesterday had a lot of things say A lot of lies to tell every day the guy stands up and bald-faced lies to the american people every day so unbelievable we've got that and lots more to talk about coming up in one minute if you're a fiscally responsible homeowner. There's no reason right now that you should be paying a higher percentage on your mortgage than you should be. I mean we say we talk about this all the time mortgage rates are at all time lows but have you taken the ten minutes to give american financing call and find out if a refinance the right option for you if not do it today. Not only other really low rates and They're not going to last forever. I don't think they can get any lower than they are. you'll probably You know. I mean if you don't do it so we're just gonna keep harassing all next week so i mean just get it over with so we shut up. 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Nmls one eight two three three four www dot consumeraccess dot word first of all first of all first of all it's patents stoop Pad of the pat gray unleashed program which you can catch immediately before this or any time. During the day on podcast. And stu of stew does america of course which you can see at eight pm eastern on the blaze daily am east not not immediately preceding. This show later on after the show. Then the podcasts hangs around all day too so Check it out by the glenn. We expect to be back on monday. We hope so. He's been going through a family crisis and hopes to be back on monday. I'm sure he'll be Fill you in on on on that. And and what the weakest been like and i know it's been a tough one so your ears are greatly appreciated and i know they mean a lot to him So feel free to continue. If if you choose that would be That'd be very much welcomed. So did you see the biden speech yesterday. Yeah it's great. It was great. Lots of stuff in there. It's a good stuff. Lots of fun. Fun commonsense gun. That common sense is common sense. And you know what these people who talk about. The second amendment is nothing to do with the second amendment. I loved the second amendment like my own grandfather. Great great because it's pretty old. So i loved the second amendment like it's my great great great great grandfather. I really do love it. It's just that you know there's some common sense things that need to be done and eventually great-great-grandfather mothers and fathers pass away. Thank and we still love them. But they're not here anymore. We love it so however get out. That's essentially what the would they were saying yesterday. Yeah you mentioned commonsense and we mock this often. Because that's when they use do we. Can we get by the wayside. The biden gun shows seven from petless. Because i in some ways he actually is proposing commonsense gun reforms. And i wanna to in another ways. He's just flat out lying right through his communist teeth and this clip particular. Y'all doing both of them. I yes yes. Let me explain why because it's not it's not how they meet commonsense Here is a joe biden on gun shows. Most people don't know you walk into a store and you buy a gun. You have a background check but you go to a gun show by whatever you want. No background check. No what no. That's terrible news. Talk not true at all true. A total lie. Now i have purchased a gun at a gun. Show have you. I have and so that you just walked in and they gave it to you and you left me dry. Jude have to pay for it. They didn't even care if you hate for it. All they ask is. You don't have to pay for it as long as you promised to murder innocent and i was like okay out. I'll find something. No i got a background check through the entire process. The overwhelming majority of gun show sales. Go through this process only private sales. Like if i'm selling a gun to pat. I am not a dealer i do not have the license. The i'm not a licensed dealer right. So i am not the type of person who has the the the resources or how would i get a background check on someone. If i'm selling one gun not a dealer. I'm giving it to my son for example He's a little too young But when he grows up what wants a gun and you know. I have this one. He can have it. I'd have to go do background checking my son like there are reasons why there are very very very limited amount of gun sales that do not go through. Background checks But yeah i went to a gun show. But i think the common knowledge that the common sense says what he's saying is true right of wait a minute. You walk into a background. You could just walk into a gun show and buy something without a background. Check by whatever you want. If that was the law there be and people would be upset about it in what that law change. It's just not true right so a commonsense gun. Reform based on a lie is not a commonsense gun reform though that is what they're trying to pitcher does they're trying to say okay well common sense. I think it's very common. It's part of common knowledge. People believe that you can go to a gun show and buy whatever you want. I got to keep repeating this line. The media they do believe they do believe it's it's common knowledge. It's just not true knowledge right. It's not actually a facet atta gun. Show a private a like a private gun. Owner can sell to another person right. Isn't that what that can happen at a gun. Show i it can happen. Yes and that has happened where a private seller sells to somebody who came into the gun. Show it's all it's so it's such a small percentage of sales. It's such a small. I was talking to someone at the heritage foundation. Who testified in front of congress a couple of weeks ago and i asked him like is there an argument and i don't believe this but again your job as a host just to ask questions you think might be interesting and is there an argument to say. Hey this is such a small percentage of sales. It is such. It is not an issue in this country. It really isn't. I mean it's basically nothing. Do we know of any gun. Crime that has been committed from a person to person sale without a gun background. Check at a gun show. I don't know of any. I heard of it never heard. Is it possible that it's happened sure. Of course it's possible. It's very unlikely that it certainly not a big. Not a big factor in our overall crime problem right. That is the big the big issue here right and i said. I said amy's swears her name. And i said amy is their argument to say maybe the righteous gives up on that they use this as a talking point all the time and it's such a small percentage of sales. Maybe there's a way that we make it easy for a background. Check to go through on on private sales. I don't know you'd have to come up with a whole new system. There's all sorts of logistics in there. Is there an argument and she agreed with me. No you can't give one. I want to swear inch to these people on this issue because they will take a mile every single time. You can't move a centimeter on guns. Because their goal is not a common sense reform. It is another step down the road to eventually have all of them gone. That's what they want They're not gonna tell you that they'll occasionally they will usually will tell you that i will say it would be nice to have that argument completely eliminated. And that's what they'll still lie about. It still say we'll still say it's happening and then they'll find the next thing like ghost. Guns is the new one now. Ghost guns look there. If you're a criminal and you want to go kill someone. There are much easier ways to get a gun right. There is no reason for you to put it together in a kit now. Yes it has happened. Some people have done it. They do sell some of these things. Some shootings have occurred with these types of guns but again it's a munger minor minor percentage. It's much easier to go through a neighborhood and break into somebody's house and look for guns. You're much more likely to find guns doing that than going through the whole process of trying to build one. Yes you could do it. It is possible they have kits that make it someone. The kids have directions and the kids have a biden said so yesterday there are directions. Oh really really kit with direct. That's that's incredible like we are. This is a society that we are constantly told cannot figure out how to get a driver's license to vote. But they're going to build their own guns really. It's so over the top insane. It is chanted us. They know. I think they know they can't really do much of anything. If you look at the six things he wants to do very few of them. Some of them are like we're going to recommend to states that they do things like okay. That's not even that's barely an executive order Some of it really was nonsensical. They're going after the ghost guns. Probably the biggest thing they're going after these These stabilizing grips as their associated. Two pistols the pistol. Brace yeah because those are those have become relatively common again. They're not involved in a lot of crimes at all. But they have become relatively common weapons for law abiding citizens to own. And so therefore i think part of that is because they know there's a chance they're going to ban assault weapons so if you have you. Have you get similar. Feel from one of these weapons as a are fifteen though. It's not a are fifteen. It is a different type of weapon. It is a pistol it just feels somewhat similar. So you get you get some of the package of an air fifteen without having to buy an air fifteen and because you know they might be coming to your door to take your ar fifteen And there's other reasons to to to to own them but they're good weapons and they are very effective as i particularly for females to be able to push back against attackers. Want to be able to hit the guy running at actor and you wanna be able to stop them and that should be something that should be You think the left would care about if they they're so feminist and they care so much about these evil men that they tell us are raping people all the time and attacking people all the time and when it comes down to it. They don't seem want to give any protection. They wanted to fund the police and take away the guns. Yeah then he continued with his false arguments. Cut number two from mccarthy. Nothing i'm about to recommend in any way impinges on the second amendment. Nothing nothing phony arguments. Just these are second amendment rights at stake from what we're talking. He knows phony. Arguments node does no amendment to the constitution does absolute. Oh you can't yell crowd. You can't yell fire. In a crowded movie theater recall the freedom of speech. Ken in the very beginning. You could known any weapon you wanted to own. From the very beginning of the second amendment existed. Certain people weren't allowed to have weapons. So the idea is just bizarre. Just suggest that some of the things we're recommending its constitution okay. This is an epidemic. Would you be arrested yelled fire in a crowded theater. No i don't think so. Would you be arrested though. If you yelled say that a person can show wolf crowded. Okay so you can't yell wolf in a crowded theatre but but you can yell fire. I think you can yell wolf because it particularly when there is a wolf in the theater. I've had several wolves were there. There's a pack of wolves hunting through the theater. A scary got nancy. Pelosi was there to yell wolf. She's is awful served by the way. I should point out as we're telling you that. Nancy pelosi sucks. There's something called nancy. Pelosi sucks pen duncombe. That is available for you to tell everyone at work that nancy pelosi sucks. It's nancy. pelosi sucks pen. Dot com by the way david harsanyi addressed the issue. You're talking about that fire in a crowded movie theater and national review yesterday. He so biden said you. Can't yell fire to credit movie theater and call it freedom of speech harsanyi by the way an absolute expert on the second amendment wrote an entire book about the history of guns and he goes into a bunch of this stuff. Say but he says you absolutely can. This is probably the weakest. And most infuriatingly overused. The deputy used hit effort to restrict rights. The line taken from all winter window homes and decision schneck versus the united states and subsequently repeated by thousands of censorship apologised since was at the heart of one of the most egregious violations of free expression in american history. The schneck decision. Allow the wilson. Dun dun woodrow wilson to throw antiwar activists in prison for violating the espionage act of nineteen. Seventeen it's difficult to think of more of a more legitimate exercise of political expression that debating war and peace in any event schneck was basically overturned by the brandenburg verse ohio decision. We've heard a lot about that. One recently which found that the first amendment protects speech unless it is likely to incite quote imminent lawless action. Which yelling fire in a theater does not so you actually. Yeah i don't. I don't recommend it but you actually can yell fire in a theater. And what about wolf. On circumstances y'all coyote that okay. I just yelled it on the radio. Am i going to be arrested. Oh my is you can not yell any four legged furry animals on the radio at any point so really. Please don't don't test because you already did. The coyote think that's already a first amendment violation man. But if you're in a crowded theatre do not do not yell poodle. 'cause that is definitely a gasoline out. Should definitely all right. Tripoli seventy seven easy gave more patents. Do for glenn coming up now. If you can pay to get compliments every single day would you do it. I mean especially if they were guaranteed. Well maybe During shamanee's spring clearance event. That's exactly what happens. You're going to get the brand new deep correcting serum absolutely free. When you order the classic genucell for bags and puffiness. You gotta do that. Get onboard even say goodbye to puffiness. Blotchy skin crows feet. Acne scars even those pesky sunspots. It's time to open up. 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Call them eight hundred five seven seven eight seven zero nine for genucel dot com ten seconds for station. Id okay so the. The president continued his assault on the second amendment. Despite the fact that he says it's bizarre to even bring up the second amendment as he's trying these gun control measures he called it He said this was a national embarrassment. What's going on right now. We say it again is an epidemic and as international embarrassed. We saw it again last night. Is i was coming to the oval office. Got the word that in south carolina A physician with his wife two grandchildren and a person working at his house was gunned down all five so many people so many of the people sitting here today know that well. Unfortunately you know they know what it's like when the seconds change your life forever seconds. Change your life the seconds forever. Pleasure getting to meet an awful circumstances many of you many of you who've lost your children your husband's your wives you know They know what it's like to bury a piece of their soul deep in the earth. We understand that mark. And jackie wanna to tell you. It's always good to see but not under these circumstances i want to say before introduced the rest of the not always good to know. Apparently a lot of people have not been through what they've been through. Don't understand takes a lot of courage to come to an event like this does absolutely absolutely determined. that's asinine. It takes a lot of courage to come to a gun control announcement. The rose garden at the rose garden with a gun control administration know what would take a lot of courage is to come to a second amendment rights announcement that would take some courage or the other way around right. I mean a second. This is constantly what happens right they. This is just an echo chamber house lawn. Yes right what would take. Courage is is coming to a celebration of the second amendment that that would take some courage going this thing where they're trying to limit your gun rights. That doesn't take any courage. It's the prevailing theory of these people of these elites that are in office. Everybody wants gun control. So i'm i'm courageous to go to a gun control announcement. No no well. He was all over again. This is joe biden trying to actually speak in having a difficult time of it. By the way he mocked it when he was doing it. But it's like to say it's always great to see you but not never under these circumstances and it's not always great to see them. I what are you saying. I don't mark kentucky. it's not good to see you say it like that. I don't know why he was so here. They really wish go hold. He's just a crotchety old man. At this point of the worst having a difficult time getting through the most basic functions of his job which is a concern certain. 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I don't know i don't know how shocking to do it itself and lonely and Charles has got to be really ticked. Because he's not the one that he wanted to die. I'll tell you that. Because he's just a prince himself. That's prince philip. You see. you're you're alleging. He wants his mother to die. There's no doubt about that man. He's been wanted that for a long time. He wants the throne desperately. It's such a strange thing to see the coverage of it. I mean again. I this per a the witten. I don to the print's dying heard. Yeah everywhere it's britain. It's pretend i don't care. Pretend is the matrix word for it. It's just it's like it's like a little like show every little kid having a tea party except they've just elevated over an entire nation right and it costs the taxpayers billions of dollars a year and they all admitted basically for nothing except tradition right like we used to let it again like the traditions. A bad tradition. There's a lot of bad things that came out a loss. Monarchy's are bad. In fact they finally had to do the magna carta to take away some of the power of the king because they couldn't stand them any of just. Don't get it more hungry. And now you keep it going even when it ended two hundred years ago. So czar czar is weird that may or may not be real or pretend is The new alex jones video that Neighor not may not be banned video but we were fortunate enough to get it. It's so weird. It's like everyone post their videos now. There's like this is definitely getting pulled off the air. It's like well. Alex is pulled off of every pulled off of his actual account however if the band it appears in this video that he's lost some clients to realize you'll see in the video. Although i thought they were his supplements i got his. He was selling his own supplements. Let's see the video. This is alex. Rescuing children yeah if you're watching on blaze. Tv band video. Where are you taking these legal putting a bunch of kids in the back of a car. Actually go house this house description. Alex de violated wall alcon legally in there issue. Likely you're not part of this organization. What happened to his dietary supplements. That's was scared. Not taking of smuggling vis literally worley. He's our children and now we talk than children. Identify yourself. who are you. i'll tell you who do you work for part of this organization. So he's going. You're not sure if your organization no no. They really came from over there. We're they're not being checked for calvin so you don't know all the police. We need to talk. I want to know where these kids are going. You are violated identify yourself. Who are you alex. If you are watching and listening. I mean and i know that's coming from me. Yes that's coming from us who podcasts. That has the literally the fat. And i don't know the fat yes. It doesn't say nine fat. No it doesn't say just people will feel that one in on their own really. Yeah yeah but wait. I've absolutely perplex by video. Ninety nine percent chance that setup. I say only ninety five percent. I say it's a ninety five percent set up the people in the car. If they're acting acted well. I mean they. They legitimately surprised by what's happening. They don't wanna look at the camera. aliens cameras probably make them nervous so if they are illegal aliens than it's not a ninety five percent chance fake right. I mean if they if that's what's what's fake if they actually are illegal. Aliens is fake. I think the guy that the got into the car that got him into the car. I think it's set up. I feel like ah. I feel like i feel like they had these people get into the car. Yeah the guy get into the car and then they were gonna stop and they hollered. An alex of course was going to stop that on going forward. It was more real than i expected it to look. I mean he does now. Of course. Alex jones is ridiculously over the top. With all of this stuff you know. I love that because because i'm gonna hold this car into gear wad. I'm stopping you right in your tracks did put it into gear the other direction so they were just like basically. This camera crew was walking down the street and happened to come across to believe yes. So it's not like they're not even saying they were tipped off. This was going to go down here or data. Alex's website posted on that it looks like it's been a while since alex has been do as web site will. You're picking up as you believe. Alex jones has gained weight. One hundred percents definitely ballooned. Yeah era has been difficult on many of us that we this is the only video. He didn't tear off his his shirt. Yeah this is the only one. And there's a reason didn't dare i mean let's be. Let's be pretty clear. I mean he's he's better than me. Okay let's not get ridiculous. Wow that's quite the accusation. Yeah i don't know. I mean i. It's carried away on my show. And i actually made that statement and then i apologize to al cone. Alex outrageous apologize to just a co worker. He i know. I know but come on to say as fatter than jeffey whichever was sitting in the same room and he's he's gonna longtime friend. You didn't apologize to him. Now is clearly within way over the line. I was completely. I'd kind of side by side here. It's look it's closer than you think. James it's closer than you now. Obviously alex jones healthier because of all the supplements. But i don't know right when it comes to jeffy is far size goes now jeffey athletically overweight. Thank you alex is obviously not. Obviously we're able to get to the bottom of this this. I expect alex jones to come in to this building right now with a megaphone yelling. I am not as far as geoffrey fresh letterman letterman. Let's bring it on. I'll take that fight. You think you're actually theater than him. Oh you you really. Because he's shorter than me. So i mean that's true that's true This this'll be a factor amazing discovery. Wouldn't it be great to get him here and put them both on a scale not at the same time. Obviously because all not a scale that. I mean you'd have to go to a truck stop for that. Maybe we thought we have to bring in the army corps of engineers to get a scale. That did something like that right. But i was looking at some old photos of of the crew the other day and remember one nursing three week period were jeffy was a inexplicably finn Remember that i do. I was weird weird time. It was a time. I wasn't the only one my friend. We all look a totally different pictures. I don't know who these people. I don't know why much those pictures anymore to be. Honest yes but you were. Actually you had a good. You know thirty to sixty minute period. Where i would say you were all. Now's at regular overweight. Top training mode right them. Yeah lost one hundred pounds. I'd find that mistake. That's a hundred pounds. We can be done talk and luckily though putting it back on had no negative health effects. Good thing that's correct y'all gonna have to worry about. It's not like you spent time in hospital or anything like every couple of weeks now so anyway. Alex jones alex jones. This is all bounce back to jeffey can. At least alex jones is saving children. What does jeffey done right. He's probably the one who will pay for in the back of that thing. Good point can't be proven. Now that can that cannot be proven chewing the fat as where he will you will hear a defense of jeff fisher not only about his potential child smuggling but also his weight. You're catching all their on. Your available wherever free podcasts are sold. Thank you very much appreciate it. Triple eight seven twenty. Seven is the phone number back in a second program. Well if you own a timeshare chances are pretty good here in two thousand twenty one. The year ready to get out of it. 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Online at timeshare termination team dot com. Its patents do for glenn. Did you see in the tiger woods crash. He was going eighty seven miles an hour when he hit the tree. Or seventy five to eighty seven. Would he ran into something when he first made contact and then seventy five miles an hour when he hit the tree is incredible that they say the forensic showed that he didn't even tap the break right now so he wonder like did he fall asleep. Right that's what happened. Yeah did he do it on purpose. Like i don't think so. But at the time of two eighty seven miles an hour without tapping the brakes around in a forty five mile an hour zone by the way and especially when he doesn't remember early says he doesn't. He doesn't remember what happened. So it's gonna be hard to pin that down. it does seem like sleep is the most likely. Yeah i would think so by falsely thinking. Come off of the gas. But it's possible. I guess if fall a certain way and the gas pedal stays down Maybe hit cruise control on at eighty seven in the forty five. I don't know it's a weird is a very very strange story and he should never get an automobile again. I mean he's gotta stop getting such automobiles just does it. No it's not. We found out about the whole scandal. Remember he was like backing down. His driveway crashed into a tree. Yeah stop driving. Well i think he crashed into a tree after his wife. Put a Golf club through the back windows not what happened. And he's trying to get away from her and then he crashed into the tree So yeah he and Suv's don't seem to mix very well. triple eight seven to seven b. e. c. k. Is patents. do for glenn yeah prince. Philip has died not seems to be the the big story news of the day today. I do not understand the fascination with the american people not at all now. I guess you'd say these elevated celebrities in great britain and if you're in great britain maybe you care but i don't understand why our media care so much about this. They care a lot. I guess it's market forces right. The only thing i can think of is market forces you put them you put now. Look what's her face Megan markle is a pseudo. Us celebrity. I mean she was on a relatively notable show. I liked it a lot. I like suits a lot. I was a fan of that. Show but you know it was ran for nine seasons it was on usa and millions of people watching it. She was a main character in the show now. She was not an a list celebrity before this but she was relatively well known and the fact that an american princess in american actress has become a princess. Whatever however that works ship princess or a duchess duchess. Sorry duchess is a big deal You know in that you can see why that would make that part of it. Interesting for the american people okay. One of our celebrities is now married into the royal family. A kind of interesting. Yeah maybe but wall-to-wall coverage of ninety nine year old right who's passed away doesn't even have an impact on the situation. Now he's just in the family. Is it worth mentioning. Yes but wall-to-wall coverage me for the last several hours. That's about all they've talked about. It's amazing it really absolutely amazing to me i. I've never understood it and it just continues. I really haven't even understood it for the british people because again no. It's not like the monarchy was a good thing. When was that great for them. It never it was never great. To my knowledge. I mean is there a beloved king. That that i mean unless arthur was real and that's doubtful that they had pretty much pretty much a string of bad guys for hundreds of years so i don't know why they look back on it so fondly. I don't know why they keep pretending that the monarchy means something to one. It's really weird. It's very strange. I saw a horror show. Yeah for a lot of. And by the way i mean. The killed are widely beheaded their wives. These guys really is a strange thing to capacity celebrate and not to mention. It unleashed awful things all across the globe to all sorts of different people. And now it's like well. Yeah but we like when they're now it's kinda cool like they come out and do the t t and the kind of cool tea in the afternoon. A few billion dollars remembering it constantly. Now i just continue to make them the richest family in the world. Let's do that. let's do that. That's great that's good that's worthwhile. It's worthwhile pursuit. Okay well good luck with that one back for glenn all right we're gonna get back into a biden's babbling from yesterday with the with the gun control. 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Joe biden an international embarrassment. I liked that that fits it. Does it fits perfectly. He wants to enact red flag laws. This is a really good idea. And he'll tell you about it when a little something for this during my campaign for president i wanted to make it easier for states to adopt extreme risk protection order laws. They're also called red flag laws. Everybody in this law knows but many people listening do not now. These laws allow police or family member to petition. A court in their jurisdiction. And say i want you to temporarily move from the following people any firearm they may possess. What a good idea. Because they're a danger and crisis presenting danger to themselves and others and the court makes a ruling put this in perspective were than half of all. Suicides for example involve the use of a firearm. Guns not available and attempted suicide. The death rate drops precipitously states. That have red flag. Laws have seen and see reduction number of suicides in their states every single month by the way an average of fifty three women are shot and killed by an intimate partner. I wrote the violence against women act. You wrote a constant struggle to keep moving. We know red flag laws can have significant effects and protecting women from domestic violence. Not really showing them a red flag. Laws can stop mass shooters before they can act out violent plants in theory in proud exactly excused point of personal privilege. We used to the senate. I'm proud that the red flag low on my home state of delaware was named after my son attorney. General beau biden our sons. Excuse me pose that legislation back in twenty thirteen. I want to see a national red flag law. He's still talking legislation to incentivize states to enact their own with that'd be gripe it'd be great to have a national read department to publish model red flag. Legislation states can start cracking their own ducking. But you can't take anymore. There's so much in their in their first of all. Why didn't he call her. Dr jill gut to that was my big russian from that disrespect. Disrespect her name. Is dr jill biden. Not just jill But the red flags the red flag law. We've gone over this before but basically this is something that some republicans are on board with and in theory you can see why it would make sense in practice. It makes a has lots of problems. People who should not be flagged chapter weapons taken away get taken away constantly by people who don't like them and falsely accused them of things and so. This happens pretty often. There's very little in the data that shows red flag. Laws are going to stop. Mass shootings are going to stop domestic violence. The only place you really see Any potential effect in the data is suicides. That maybe you might be able to figure out that. There's some effect though. It's still a completely unproven. Any have something when you're gonna take away constitutional rights from someone you should be pretty sure about it And It's understandable how this kind of goes down the road a little bit but you'll notice. He's not really doing anything he saying. He wants a commission so that they can form the law and other people can pass they're recommending that states do this and but he he knows a national law he wants that states do what he wants a national law but he realizes correctly he can't do any of that himself so this is this is this is playing to his base. A little bit here. He realizes what he said in the campaign which is he was going to do all this stuff on day one. We're now a busy january twentieth. I'm not sure i'm my my calendar. Might not be working here but it seems to be day seventy something. So he didn't do any of the stuff he promised and this is his effort to appease his base. He promised he was going to do these things on day one. He hasn't he can't do them now. They're blatantly illegal and unconstitutional for him to do them He was just lying to his base the entire time and now he's in he's at a corner and he can only do a few of these things so let me give you a. Let me give you this. this is another. I'm fascinated by this. The left loves to say this one all. They love the charleston loophole. It's one of their favorite things to talk about. And the it's not of course not a loophole at all. Just like the gun show. Loophole is not a loophole at all. But here's a joe talking about the charleston loophole closed the charleston charleston. Loophole like people here. I spent time down that church in charleston. What happened is someone was allowed to get the gun. Used to kill those innocent people in the church service if the fbi hasn't didn't complete the background check within three days is the process down three days according to charleston. Loophole you get the buy the gun Okay now this is among the most disingenuous claims. He will make in the entire speech. First of all there's no the charleston loopholes not a loophole. It was a specifically. It was very specifically designed in the law. The reason it was designed to law is because if you don't have what they call the charleston loophole. You could go for a background check. The federal government could say. Couldn't quite get to that one. Never buy a gun because if the background check doesn't come back then you can't you can't get the gun so they could get base and this was happening during the clinton administration. They were delaying these things for very long inordinate amounts of time because they didn't really want people to buy the guns so they would just get up. Sorry couldn't hear that cork in the system. So they pass the charleston law was the charleston loophole as they call it. The just not what it's called but that's their fancy name to call it now is based on this idea that the charleston shooter went to get a gun. They didn't do the background check for three days so he was able to get the gun without the background. Check now the reporting that's happened. Since the incident shows that he would not have failed the background. Check anyway so it wouldn't have made a difference but that's how they're trying to this end. They want to extend the period for the background. Check to ten days and maybe forever. what's fascinating about. This is in two thousand. Thirteen the mansion to me amendment. Would they try to push that through if you remember that. That was the sort of the gang of eight approach to gun control in which some republicans were on board And some democrats worked with them mentioned in to me being the headliners but in that law what they did was not extend the period for the charleston loophole quote unquote. What was to shorten it to only one day. Why well when. They put the three days in a kind of made sense right three days. Now i can get a background check on anybody in five minutes on the internet. There's no reason for it to take one day let alone three days or ten days. There's no reason for it to take that long and the background check could be instant at this point and is for most people now most of them. Just go through within minutes and of course. Obviously that should be very easy to do at this point. The year is twenty twenty one so they wanted in two thousand and thirteen to shorten it and by the way almost every single democrat in the senate voted for it. Now it's the quote unquote charleston. Loophole it's not. A loophole is designed so that the government doesn't get in the way of your constitutional rights by just running out the clock and They should be shortened to honestly an hour. Maybe there's a delay in the system. Maybe someone kicks the ethernet cable out somewhere in washington. Dc okay. we'll give you a little bit of time. Three days is ridiculous. This is the twenty first century. What obama was doing was continually telling people Yeah the computers are down. Yeah computers down. That computer system is just kick it to work. It's one of those dial up things. We have net zero and we're we're running running alta vista. You're just can't. I had lyco saw. You'd like yeah and it just it's well. Ours is to dial up prodigy account right. Now we're doing. It's exactly upgrade. Aol right let me give you another a complete and blatant lie. This is joe biden. Telling you give me a little history lesson about what weapons you could buy back in the day in the very beginning. You couldn't own any weapon you wanted own beginning. The second amendment existence. Certain people weren't allowed to have weapons dot. It's an interesting phrasing there. You couldn't buy any weapon you want. It and certain people weren't able to buy weapons. Well part of that is true. Let me give you this. This is from david harsanyi. he's the author of a first freedom. Ride through america's enduring history with the gun. it's history. it's exactly what it sounds like a very detailed history of firearms in the united states. Going back to the founding he says. I wrote a book on the history of american guns and never once did i run across any law that restricted americans from owning any weapons they desired. Unless we're talking about blacks or indians because most gun restrictions and us history have been employed to unarm the people who need weapons most so when joe biden is like we'll go back you certain people were limited from buying guns. Yeah blacks and indians. That's it was limited from guns. Okay and no weapons. Were were restricted. Back in the day. he continues the idea of the federal government conducting any kind of domestic gun policy whatsoever would have been completely alien concept to anyone before the nineteen thirties. Even then no. Specific types of guns were banned from use. It really wasn't until nineteen eighty six that the fully automatic guns were effectively banned by the federal government. Wasn't the machine gun ban in thirties. Some some of that was and that's what he's referring to when he says the nineteen thirties. but really the ban ban came in in nineteen eighty six Would that was. That was obviously during the reagan administration. And something. I also believe is entirely unconstitutional. It's a whole different story and you might not like the results of that. I think that's why boasts people are okay with it because people don't really want people to have fully automatic weapons. Not sure how you can ban that would the constitution the way it is a guy in texas. A few years ago was suing on that. And it's been challenged many times in the court And i think they're right. Frankly you don't think you can ban automatic weapons. Under the constitution you could amend the constitution to ban. Automatic weapons knew that and maybe that will pass. It's not impossible that The people even conservatives would be like. I don't really like those but frankly that's a whole different story. The bottom line is that this is yet again. Another false statement from joe biden yesterday and he had some other bizarre things that he said. This is such a four from Pat's list here. I don't know. I always thought it was the atf. You tell me what it is now. Finally the bureau of alcohol alcohol and firearms garbage bag enforcing permanent director. Since twenty fifteen so we gonna put in their day. I'm proud to nominate david. Chipman servers director of af t af to. David knows t well. It's atf. Joe what is the fda. Actually it's the american federation of teachers which is probably what he was thinking about most of the time since it's like a union but again this guy by the way is no. He's not going to recognize the the second amendment in the way you and i do. What's put it that way He's dana lash Mentioned that he. She expected to be one of the most activists. Atf directors or not directors in history. So looking forward to that one. That's going to be a lot of fun. Yeah blade seven. Twenty seven is the number. Give us a call. Glenn is back on monday. It's pat and stu for glenn. Spring is in full swing and there is no better time to freshen up your home than right. Now with blinds dot com. They're giving you up to thirty five percent off everything site-wide to warm welcome to a new season. They made it so convenient to order online with free shipping guaranteed perfect fit for your windows whether you d i y or you have them handle the install from start to finish. You can't go wrong next time. 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Because i'm sure a lot of the audience that listens to this program. No but for those that don't it it's not as easy as just ordering. It comes in a box of legos. That says three plus You have to have a router the gigs of the bits. All that stuff or a drill. Press an x y axis vice. It's Are more expensive to do than just going down the street and buying a gun from joe or stealing their problem right on. This is something that hobbyists like to do. It's something that if you if you're into this sort of thing it's it's it's a fun activity. It's an people have been doing this for a very long time. As part of american history of people making their own weapons. But the idea that like you know criminal syndicates are going to be. Let's spend three quarters of our resources building guns in so dumb well against so on. Its face stupid but like the ghost. Gun thing sounds scary. I think to most people just sounds like it could be bad. And that's why they're trying to take advantage of it. I think okay. Good asking. But i was gonna ask him if he's built his own gun. I that would be an interesting to try. Maybe what by one and try to do it. I would have no. I can't do it by of no way no way. No for sure. Kids put together a dresser. How much is it goes gun cost. Can we buy one. I mean goes john lewis while we go to a dakota in michigan coda ghost guns dot com during the campaign aide. Gentlemen pardon talk you I formerly worked in the firearms industry. first off. I want to say you can't buy ghost gun because they don't exist Know joe biden said they existed. What are you talking about you know. they don't exist. You can make at home. Doesn't make it a ghost gun. Though right i mean you can buy. There are kits though you can buy. Theoretically they call them eighty percent. What's the term you. You probably know it better than i do. Fat lower. yeah and so. The idea is that they're eighty percent of the way right. You have to the last time percent of the work okay. Correct and on some of those. They are still serialized. End depending on your say you do so through them with your state. Yeah that's the funny thing is the only one of the only places they've been used in crimes. Large in any large numbers at all is in california which has laws against ghost guns quote unquote that you have to get serial numbers from the state. Shockingly criminals don't do it all that often weird yeah. That's very nice of him. Yeah why why. Would they not do what they're supposed to do. So it's a lot dakota. Have you ever actually tried to build one of these things. I have not what i When i was in the industry i did assist customers with purchasing the parts and everything and getting it taken care of. How easy is it could an idiot like me do it. it's not as easy as The left to make you think it is Like the caller before. Lee said you'd have to have all the equipments But there's there's there's resources out there that'll walk you through but it's not as easy as putting a pocket legos together. It sounds like it's hard. Yeah eve discouraged me from buying ghost guns. Yeah i'm afraid to buy because joe biden is going to show up at my house But i still want to do it. And see if i could build one. I mean it'd be fun. Project triple eight seventy seven k. Say how much it is. I don't know we'll keep researching. Everyone's building like a porch patio. The back the building. Lego gonna carpenter. They can table. It's cova time gotten see how it works out. This is the glenn beck grim american financing. Nmls one eight two. Three three four www dot nmlsconsumeraccess.org. Just a moment. I want you to think about what it would look like to be out of debt now. I know jeffey cam picture something like that. But in theory you probably can. In fact i think about what it'd be like. 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Completely over running the the country so many people are manufacturing their own guns at home and then using them to kill people that he's just got to do something about this so we were. We started to get curious about okay. Well how much does it cost. And what goes into it and we've had a couple of callers at tell told us it seems pretty complicated. First of all you have to have the right kind of equipment to manufacture it anyway but here from every town which is michael bloomberg's anti group. Their research founded it. It's possible to buy an ar. Fifteen ghost gun build kit and lower receiver for as little as three hundred forty five dollars so as little as three forty five. So i'll bet you that you could double that at least right because you know it's not true yes whatever. They're whatever they're saying is not true that is the starting point what they're lying But still his for making a glock type pistol kit with frame can go for as little as four hundred dollars. So are you telling me that you could. You can't build it. A glock cost more to build than an air fifteen. Plus if they if it's as little as again you could probably double that price so it's expensive to buy these. Why would you. Why would you unless you're a big hobbyist. Why would you buy a kit like this when it's more expensive than the gun. That's already assembled for you. At the store i would make the same argument essentially about beer right. I know people who beer constantly their own yet their own near in the garage and they make all sorts of different bruce and they freaking love it. It is an intense long process that you make one little screw up and you lose the entire batch and some some of the beer is good and some of it isn't but they love the craftsmanship of it. They love going through that process. A seven eleven. Buy beer not the easiest way to get beer if it's like saying like underage drinking is a huge problem. That's why we need to ban home brewing kits. And it's like well. That's not what i'm sorry. Fifteen year olds are not doing is a perfect example. That doesn't make any sense. So i am a currently on site that will sell ghost guns. They have a ar fifteen full build kit which i would assume is everything. And that's five forty nine now the fifteen. If you probably go buy a couple of grand so you'd be saving that much because it used to be that you could get him for like eight hundred. I eight or nine hundred. I would think it would be more than that. But i know. Yeah it's going to be less than that right. Yeah that's a couple grand. Yeah i mean. I bought mine at the height of win. 'cause i always do this. I buy and sell low. And i bought at the height of the the sandy hook thing when they were talking gun control and all that and so i freaked out a little bit and i wouldn't bought and paid way too much for it. It was like eighteen hundred dollars now. Now thousand nine thousand dollars probably around a thousand a thousand dollars and so you're save four hundred dollars and you're going to go through this process. It's no. I'm not saying okay now. You're saying okay. Well the people are doing. It are trying to avoid the Paperwork side of it. They don't care about the cost. So i the serial number and a serial number right. They don't wanna go through the legal parts of it now. That's not true for almost all of these but let's entertain the idea so you are a drug dealer. Right are a criminal this this these. The people generally speaking who are committing these crimes. You're in a gang. Let me give you some of the details here. If you key what to keep in mind learning how to build ghost guns the first sentence the verse. That is and i'm a little discouraged. Your oh you're experience with guns is little to none assembling your own could be dangerous or even deadly. Wow okay great there. That's probably that's a downer for me. I'm that's probably a negative. i'm not going overcome. So what kind of tools are needed. Okay you think like a gang. Member old grew driver. Maybe right screwdriver. One of those things that come in the boxes the allen wrench and allen around a screwdriver and you maybe an acetylene torch. There's more than one one way to go about building a diy gun cheating the best results. Basic knowledge of common tools is a requirement to do this correctly. Here's some of the tools you may need to complete your ghost gun. A set of metal files in different sizes. I can't tell you how many gandel files have huge collections of metal files. It's very common so easier. Common course and find grit sanding paper quality firearm lubricant. A nylon hammer. Since using a metal hammer may damage the frame. A drill press and vice drill. Press a drill press. So we're not a drill press states. You have a drill press. Not i do not and my guess is just buying the things you need to build the gonna put it way over the cost of purchasing final assembly. My dad had all that stuff in his workshop. I have that kind of stuff. I don't even know. I don't know if i have a regular hammer let alone a nylon ham. If you'll be regular ever might have somewhere. I don't even know where it would be ivy. Don't think needs to be hammered at my house. Somebody hey we need nail hammered in here. Can you come over and do it. I really legitimately pathetic with these things. But i do have amer more pathetic than that when i do have though you're right is a phone. Yes and someone who we know. Who will do things for us. And i know that specialization. There's nothing to fight. There's nothing wrong with specialization. No we can come in here and read off of gun gun ghost gun websites perhaps better than like one tenth of a percent to the rest of the population so therefore we work here right and and that's why that's right. Leave it to somebody who specializes in hammering things. That's not me it's not. We'll kill ourselves or do you understand this yes. People don't know this pat if you're not an expert but when the hammer has to go up and down multiple times get a nalen. There's just no way. I've seen it happen. Guys are experts. I mean by the way. I should point out when you're retracting the hammer up. It's coming towards your body and there's a claw on the backside. I can go right through your skull right through your stinking skull could at any point good. I'm not going to risk that. No way all that up to the experts. My wife is way better at fixing things. And then that's how pathetic i look. We don't have a skill set. That would be like quote unquote useful in society. No that's not what we do quote a lot of people say that they say hey. I don't find useful in this society. And now i think that's a common thing okay. Y'all we're not done by the way okay also rotary tool with a sanding drum. Which i that. You're now noticing. Is i need a rotary tool with drum. Yes obvious okay. Then you need a power drill. Which i actually do have to have a power drill and you need a completions to my hammer somewhere. I don't know where. But you will. Also and i know you have this completion jig. Oh yeah yeah. You got several completion jigs now multiple sizes we should point out that does not finish the job to to build a ghost gun. You also will need a template. It's mandatory the correct template allows both sections of the gun to line up exactly where they need to and as everyone who's ever built a piece of furniture knows it never does right no matter what that's right no matter what they don't lineup and the thing doesn't work at all which is why people say i'm not useful in society because for other people. They seemed lineup. But not for me now. Do they say your quote not useful in society on quote unquote. You will need to choose the frame that you want to customize as the base of your gun you'll find a diverse selection of products on this website shop by category brand. They have this will be in chinese. I don't understand any of it. I know so. Basically they're saying they give you eighty percent done you have to do the extra twenty percent now for a while The the federal government was saying if you can put it together within a certain amount of time. We're counting it as a gun. That was kind of standard so people were getting. These didn't exist for a while and that that policy changed at one point and now they they measure for the terminology of the way they measure. It it's a ghost gun or not but now they think you can theoretically put these together. Forty five minutes which is no way nuts. Know if you're if you're at a regular person regular person you have to be someone who was really handy to be able to do. This really knows guns really know scans. Now it's a good thing like they. I have an older car that i bought. Because i always wanted one from when i was a kid and it was. You know it's a. It's relatively very cheap car. That barely runs and it always breaks down and when i bought it the guy said so. Are you handy with with cars are because he kinda got the sense sense for some reason. I wasn't when i was like a whole wheel. Thingy does this have the one that we know. The one that makes it go back and forth on the road. Does that have that. And he's like a steering wheel. And i don't want to use that thing so he kinda got the sense. I didn't know what it was doing. And he asked to to his credit. I was gonna purchase the car anyway and he said just so. You know like if you don't know how to fix these things or you don't want to spend it's great thing to do. You can learn about the cars you can get under the hood you can cut it and i'm thinking to myself. Yeah but more. I could sit inside in the air conditioning. That's another option like the car can sit outside where the car lives. And i'll sit inside and then when i want it to run i want to turn the key and then wanted to start and then i want to go those. That's what i want to do with the car right. Don't wanna get under the hood. I don't wanna learn about all the things under the hood. I don't want to know anything about it. I don't ever want to open the hood. Just want the car to go forward and backward when i tell it to right. And he's like. I don't know maybe you should consider a different car getting really. Yeah he did. He basically tried to talk. We had a buying it now. Of course i did and listen to them. And so now i've spent thousands and thousands of dollars to get it fixed by people who know what they're doing right But there is a charm to that right. If you like my dad loved. I love doing that. A lot of people love it. Yeah and so. The same thing comes with guns. You're learn all the internal components of the gun and you're gonna learn exactly how the thing works building. A gun could be something that could be really rewarding for someone who likes doing that. Just like if you'd like beer if you're into that kind of hobby and that's usually what it would be. Yeah i'm sure most of the people who just want to do it. They're not trying to hide it from the government per se. I think there are definitely people who don't like the infringements on the second amendment that have occurred and by these things out of principle but they don't have any nefarious purpose soft overwhelming majority. Now of course there have been some cases where these things have happened and been used in crimes just like there have been toyotas that have been used in crimes. Toyotas have you run over people. You don't sue toyota over it. And you'll know toyotas illegal to run over. People isn't purpose. yeah it states. Fifty fifth all fit all fifty states and each and every territory has all. But i've seen like terrorists for example. Run over people at like a street fair. You think man. I wish we had a law. Yeah when we do but why but why. Then they run over the people at the street fair. If there was a law in place that would it. They wouldn't really good question. It's a really good question because they would stop the just like we know what they're running away from these people were then they wouldn't run over people that's true that's true. What if we just limited their speed in some way like a high end that would be the maximum speed you could or make a whole bunch of days before they can actually take delivery on the car. That would be then. They wouldn't do any right. they wouldn't do anything right. This is all all. i think. It's very much one of these things. Where biden is playing to the average person who does not own a gun who find guns to be scary and foreign And believes that people will hear things like ghost gun and charleston loophole and gun show loophole and just basically assume they're true because they're reading echoed by the media and they will also we'll of course. There shouldn't be a loophole so crazy people can buy guns and charleston. Well there isn't a loophole. There is nowhere anywhere in any of the code. Is there an exemption for anything at a gun. Show it's just all made obviously back in a second all right. If you are minding your own business looking up at the mating habits of migratory birds in your spare time as one does maybe looking to see is. Is there a ghost gun website. That can shout well. Then something happens cybercriminals hacks into your computer and is now 'accessing your personal information the worst part in even know it yet but you will soon. It's important to understand how cybercrime and identity theft are affecting our lives. Your identity is what makes you you. And it's what gives you credibility in the world. It's what we don't certainly worth protecting. Isn't it but cybercriminals are here to try to take it anyway. Lifelock helps detect those cybercriminals and a wide range of identity. Thefts and threats. They detect your information. They detect it. If it's been compromised detective someone's using on the dark web. They're dedicated team of restoration. 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This is really dangerous because all the same thing as just a it's a it's a semantic scape to try to overturn the frigging constitutional rights amazing. And they're so good at it. The left is so good at glennbeck. The glenn beck program glint. You'd be back monday morning. Bright and early me tie patents to. We've got to finish up our discussion and get to some of your calls on the gun. Control babblings of joe biden and much more also said something very fascinating about the future of air travel. We'll get to that coming up in a minute. So you know What we all love more than anything else in the world when you put your house on the market and you're trying to sell it and then you get the great great price you hit a home run you out. Do even your own expectations. I mean the markets crazy right. I was just talking to somebody who put the house on the market and they got fourteen bids in one day. They want of selling it for like thirty thousand dollars above the asking price nice. 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It's these executive orders that he's that he's putting forward and just suggestions to states on doing other things like the red flag laws. He can't do an executive order on that so he's recommending two states that they take up the red flag loss so you found something else interesting in his discussion yesterday. Yeah there's been this thing that changed a few years ago. I guess where if there was like a mass shooting everyone would say oh jeez. Thoughts and prayers are with the victims and it was a standard thing to say and it was something that it's like a just a general. There's people going through tough times and maybe we shouldn't be talking about politics right now but even even more fundamentally than that. I feel bad that these things this happened to these people whether you agree or disagree with new laws to try to correct it. Hasn't it makes no difference just saying. Hey i'm thinking about you. I'm praying for your to really basic human things. It's particularly important for people who of faith to say. I'm praying for you. It's you know again if your faith it's like the most important thing you can do. It's not some flippant thoughts. Okay my thoughts are with you. It's a nice thing to say as a human being to another but a prayer is something that you think is really important. If you're a person of faith it's basically like the most important thing you can do. So oddly a few years ago it used to be something that all democrats would say. Oh gosh you know there are. Thoughts prayers are with the victims here. But we need to do something that was very standard democratic stuff. They acted as if they cared about people who believed in god whether they do or not. I don't know but they acted as if they cared about people who do the few years ago changed and it started people started saying you know what i'm sick of hearing about thoughts and prayers. What does that do. It doesn't stop these things. Thoughts and prayers are not enough and we got into this thing at first. It was just people on twitter. Crazy like left wing writers that would say i'll thoughts impression on enough and then it crossed over into two politicians where politicians would say it. It's like you know. Thoughts and prayers are just not enough here. We need to do something now. It's very revealing pat to me that a person who claims to be a faith would say that praying is doing something right. Winsome prayers prayers. We need to do something actually. If you're a person of faith praying is doing something for sure. It's vital to this. You might not agree with that. You might not believe in prayers. You might not believe in god but like if you're talking about a person of faith which all of these democrats say they are. I mean listen to nancy pelosi. She speaks she. Sounds a preacher. Half the time which he's talking about loss and they say all thoughts and prayers. We need to actually do something. Thoughts and prayers pressure not enough. Joe biden took that to a whole new level during the speech and very few people have noticed. Did i've never. I don't know that i've ever heard a politician ask for this before whether congress acts or not. I'm going to use all the resources of mine disposal. The president keep american people safe from gun violence. But there's much more the congress can do to help that effort and they can do it right now. They've offered plenty of thoughts and prayers members of congress paradis but they pass not a single new federal law reduced. Gun violence okay. Standard enough prayers time for some action. Wait enough prayer enough. I so you're saying we should stop. Praying thoughts imprison not enough. This is pleased. Discontinued the activity of praying. Yeah another prayers time catholic. That means so much to means so much to me. He is deep deep faith. Some of the things mean so much on yet. Not every obviously tau shout. Nah nah i mean. Who knows really meant by that. Maybe they look maybe maybe they don't want all the babies to be alive. Who needs all of them their sale. Many there's so many loud right now. I but that's a whole different story. And then he essentially tells you to stop praying dot prayers. Maybe that was just him crazy. You know blubbering through another line. Which is not impossible. But this is how dismissive these people are over faith. Now it's just like your prayers suck. Stop doing them now. Only they're not want to hear from you christian. Yeah it's really like that dismissed and it's because of course this is what they have thought the entire time but were usually used to be smart enough not to say it now. There was blurting it out. Stop ring we'd like that and it can just deceased please. Yeah all the only thing that is doing something is government if government does something then it's real but if it's you bring your prayers that's nothing again you might believe that and that's up to you. This is america but biden those at least a catholic right and and the it used to be that they wouldn't dare say something like that they do. They just do. It really is amazing artist. Triple eight seventy seven k. Let's go to kevin in georgia. You're on the glenn beck program with that. And hey what's up guys so i tried to do this Three years ago my son had a great say. It would be fun for us to do this together. Yeah it goes gone. Yeah i spent about one hundred bucks buying the tool that we needed to bomb us. 'cause i knew i'd never use them again. And we spent about a week watching videos together and figuring it all out before we dove into it. It was a nightmare. Turn out well or just don't belong. Oh no i completely ruined the lower half that we bought. We bought two of them. Okay and ruin the first one. Then the jake that we were using which was supposed to be the best on the market completely ruined that man. I still have the second lower in their result. Packaging in my face. Yes we didn't even try it again but this is what all drug dealers are doing right. Now there's like let's just get the jig and we'll get that all set up. It's like ridiculous. This is not a core part of this of the problem of gun violence in this country. Absolutely incredible and this is exactly how i would expect to thank you. I appreciate the phone call. Let's try justin justin. Welcome to the glenn beck program with patent student guys. How're you doing anyway. We're trying to outlaw in object. Why does not take a human being who operate that. And if that's the case that the inanimate objects are killing people why not outlaw them all the potentially kill somebody. It is ridiculous flaw in their basic logic and thanks for the call. The there's this this is the same when he was talking about Suing gun manufacturers nother. Lie another lie for civil. You can sue gun. Manufacturers there is limited Shield they have limited. Because if you screw up with their device like you do something stupid with a gun and misuse it Then they can't be held liable for that and of course that's it makes sense. Of course that would be ridiculous if you were to buy a car a toyota. You should not be able to sue toyota because decided to run somebody over. Its toyota's fault xy what you did with it. It's not a crime until you actually commit the crime and that's why it would be ridiculous. The reason why joe biden wants it so badly is because he knows he can sue these people out of existence you can just file a million frivolous lawsuits and they will. Most of these companies will have to shut down and that's of course what they want Bryant in north carolina to glenn beck program with patents. Do thank you This is an absurd conversation. I can't even believe we're having it. The second amendment was designed so that we could maintain a militia not go bird hunting. Although i like the idea bird hunting it's just as we have progressed in and ways of needing to defend ourselves because those around us who would seek to hurt us have greater ways to hurt us. We should have greater ways of defending ourselves. We don't need a twenty two short to defend our homes anymore Having an ar may be necessary at some point but you said you said something a few minutes ago. That made a lot of sense to me. You said that this is more than just for defense. And that's the truth. The people that are buying these. Ar's are buying them. Yes for defense. But them are buying them because it's an art or a scale or a hobby and some of them are doing as a form of investment for retirement because You know money's about worthless anymore. And so they pow guns not to use them but to have them in storage for their future. There's nothing wrong with this. And if we outlaw every gun in the world i mean even blue bloods now even using knives for their murders. There's not a lotta guns on tv anymore. People are going to find a way to kill somebody. Even if they don't have a gun third. Yeah no it's very true and brian. Thanks for the call. It's true. I most of the people buying these things. People like the callers were talking to who are average people who might want to try to do this. Maybe they're collectors. There's something you can go buy a table at kia. There's something about building it yourself. The american people have always praised that instinct. It's always been something that people love. I have a friend who who loves playing poker and is building his own poker table. Thank got amazon and get a frigging poker table delivered the next day. But he's building his own because he wants to do it. There's just that's just that something you can't make illegal and of course it's not gonna work even if you do. The the australian law is the thing that i always loved going back to because they they bought about twenty percent of the guns in the country and it was supposed to really help gun. Violence showed no effect by the way all the studies afterwards showed that had no effect on gun violence. But if he were to do that here you have to buy like a hundred million guns first of all just the cost of that buying back one hundred million guns you take the the the way. How would you do that. A gun owners are not gonna you know maybe you could get twenty percent of them back. Maybe i mean i doubt it but maybe there's some people who probably wouldn't care. Maybe i don't know but let's just say you could. Yeah what does what does that. Leave you with a country with three hundred million guns in it. It makes no freaking difference. The people who are going to commit crimes of them are not going to give them back to you and the other people are still going to be putting a guns out there to commit crimes with you're going to disarm the the law abiding citizens right to do not only unconstitutional. But it is also a completely ridiculous. Let's try noah line eight in texas noah. Welcome to patents. Joe and you have a phone call. Did we lose him. You believe this put them with. Let's see if you answered. yes i know. Why did you pick up this book. This call and not the other phone that was will the other one's my business phone ringing in more important talk to you right there we go. That's america four. Pack with your customer go ahead. You were talking about You can call in ghost gun conversation. Yes quite a few these things not for anybody else but only for myself and it takes a lot of money investing in in one you can't you never did perfectly unless you had to see in phoenician the cnc machines that they make for these things run about three thousand dollars mets for the while the scene even then you don't do it. Perfect i got i mean. These are precise instruments. This is not like you know you're going to be very difficult to do on your own. How do you built a bunch of these for your own. Do know a lot about guns. Or get your yeah. I have a gun store and so bill. Mona younger kind. A hobby of mine and it gives me surprised especially whenever i'm l. She number harvesting animals with him and So it's kinda just a hobby amount. We take pride in it. This is a great point because like the guy owns a gun store. He can get guns but he's building them himself because you know it is. It's a point price. It's a cool thing to go through. 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They're going to see more change in the next ten years. We've seen the last fifty years we're going to talk about. Commercial aircraft. okay subsonic. Speeds subsonic speeds no supersonic okay figuratively figuratively if we decided to do it in the world traverse about an hour travel twenty one thousand miles an hour twenty thousand which is changing. It's really that's that's fast. That is really fast. If you're gonna go twenty one thousand miles. An hour yeah. I hope that you have a special sort of suit. Because the forces of nature are going to tear the plane apart. And you're going to be Falling from whatever height the salinas ended to so an airbus. A three eighty can go seven hundred and thirty seven miles an hour. That's less than twenty one thousand five off the fastest plane in the world. right now. Is the blackbird spy plane which goes twenty one hundred miles an hour but see. I don't even think he meant that. He meant because he says you can traverse the world in one hour. So twenty-one he's talking about going twenty one thousand miles in one hour right they. I don't think it was a mistake. I know he meant it. Because we see the concord. What thirteen hundred miles an hour right right so you twenty one hundred for the spy plane now alon. Musk has talked about. We do have this thing. There was a test where you going to space and then come back down a hypersonic missile test recently. Yes and they were talking about how it's possible. You could get up to these ridiculously high speeds. At some point. You know how fast the hypersonic missile goes. No china and russia have them too. And i i think they're tough. Speed is like seven thousand miles an hour. So if you're talking about three thousand three times the speed of the fastest. We have now theoretically right if we have the if we have something that's going seven thousand miles. It's not impossible. We could get something that goes twenty one thousand miles in the future. My big problem with it is what a waste of a flight. If you're going around the whole earth you just landing in the same place. You took off an hour later. That's just dumb. It's like if you took off her flight right now your city at a circle for an hour and then landed. That's all it would be. I just wanted to see how long it would take to circumnavigate the world there. You go in twenty one thousand mile an hour plane. That's it one hour to hour. I mean look at some point. We may see a point right now it is complete no way and to make it commercially available to people as even further the look we all. It's funny because we're we seem to be. The ones always called anti-science. I think innovation is a huge part of our future. It's why i don't worry all that much about global warming. Frankly because you'll be able to you. You're going to get these technologies if they would've of allow the technologies. We already have nuclear to to advance. 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Although he's trying to the left yeah he is trying to do real things against the second amendment but yeah and i think one of the steps is going to be soon it will be trying to ban the aarp fifteens or or anything that they refer to as a salt rifles. They'll try to ban all of them and I mean beto said hell yes. We're going to do that. So that's obviously the goal but right now they're taking on the ghost guns and so not all that familiar with ghost guns. We've been hearing from Some people it's really interesting. Who have actually tried or have made ghost guns and what's involved in it. It's actually pretty expensive. You need special equipment and it cost. It costs more probably by the time you get done with it. Then in buying a fully made weapon would be so. I don't know what the advantages unless you're just looking for a gun without a serial number. Maybe that's the accusation right but most of the people by them are not doing it per se for those reasons some might be because they just don't feel like it's constitutionally justified to force these things there's that a really tiny percentage that's looking to do something illegal with them you know I i don't know how many times that's happened. But i guess it's happened. So your thoughts travis in ohio. You're on the glenn beck program going. Good i let me say to joe biden. My thoughts and prayers are with and his family thank you that was very nice. second I grew up in a machine shop. My father was the cnc machinist for forty years. He decided he was going to make these guns so that he could put them on the wall because when people came to the house they would say well. What do you do for a living. He made dis places like lockheed martin so he doesn't really have anything to show. There was a point of pride. I think what binding is doing is actually very dangerous. If people walked away from yesterday's conversation not hearing both guns are dangerous but hearing. Hey you could buy a kit for in thirty minutes off the internet. You can have a gun. The first time they go to do that they have a better chance coming themselves to somebody else. Yeah i honestly like. That's kind of what i took out of it yesterday. I you know. I heard it. I was like man. That'd be kinda cool to try to build one of those things. That's really what i thought. Because i know him an idiot idiot now would probably kill myself. I will not be doing that but that is actually was kind of my thought processes on really you can buy these for. That's kind of cool. That was really. I guarantee every one of these places and the saigon today back this up there also that now. They're all sold out because everyone's going to buy them now because he's now going after them. There's no better commercial for the gun industry than the democratic party. Yeah like the greatest gun salesman Live on the planet. Was barack obama and now joe biden and now it's biden Joe in texas. You're on the glenn beck program. I yes i built my own the parts but i still had to go through a background check and it did end up costing me in the end about a thousand dollars to build it and i can go buy one for about eight hundred and bill maher i built on a are a part of the part of the hobby and what it was what i was building building a gun specifically for hog hunting and because most hey ours. Come in two to three caliber right. That's not sufficient for hunting deer or hogs or anything and that's where a lot of hobbyists going to build a caliber that is uncommon for a specific use in generally for for hunting used or a hobby us You know building it. More accurately than what a stock gun is and all but it it is by far is. I mean you can buy kit. You still have to go through a background check. And in the end it's gonna cost you about a thousand dollars to build the whole thing and and the whole point was really that i could build something that you can't really just go by because of the the difference in caliber so you did have to go through a background. Check to get the kit. Yes well the the the kit and and generally the kids the lower instill sterilized. You still have to do a background. Check to buy that serialized. And that is the gun and their mind and and you whenever you still have buy a trigger and you still have to buy all the parts to put the lower together and then you still have to buy the upper when you put it all together you know. Yeah maybe i saved a little bit in the end. I really spent more than just going to the store and buying the gun. I can go go to most gun stores and buy an a. r. for about eight hundred dollars and how the gun turn out is it is work just as efficient good yes. It's very accurate. And you know but it was built specifically for awning hog. Because you need a larger caliber because the two-to-three hog would would still advanced on you and and and file but you know it takes a lot to knock these wild these wild pigs. Don't just go down aged illegal. People think and a two to three actually less than lethal round so they opted by the military because it was less than lethal. They've found it was easier. It was harder for the enemy to take care of wounded people than it is to take care of people that are killed. Yeah well that's fascinating. That was one of the interesting things. Thanks for the call Joe appreciate it one of the interesting things from the biden press conference yesterday and it's something that has held up for a very long time. Most people who get shot don't die. A really is bizarre. The percentage is really high like he was throwing out numbers yesterday in the seventy five percent range. You know four hundred people get shot in one hundred people die but the number overall i believe is close to ninety percent of people who get shot. Do not die and you see that every weekend in chicago where fourteen were shot and twelve were killed. A lot of. You'll hear the biggest numbers you're thinking. Oh my gosh that many people died. No we'll get yeah and largely due survive which is actually pr- pretty interesting. You don't think about that stuff because you don't even watching the movies and everyone who gets shot pretty much dies except for the good guy. The good guys have like one hundred percent. Survival rate good guys can get shot like thirty times and somehow they'll pull through and that's if you're in a gang right now and you. That's how you know you're in the good gang is because if you get shot survive that's how the rule works. Okay ray in south carolina. You're on the glenn beck program. How you guys doing today. Good good luck here. These so-called called ghost guns. It is more than going to the hardware store and buying a box real package of files. I mean they're they're there. You gotta have machines knowledge in machinists capabilities in order to build these things. And i think what they're doing more likely is going after the parts to build these things but if you about it when you buy that that block and you finish it out you still have to have the parts to go inside the finish. It will same parts that goes inside that gun to finish it. Also what you need to maintain your local newport do wear out right. Yeah so there's then that's what's going to happen. If they ban quote unquote ghoulish rotten's they people will just go by the individual parts. Which you know. It was almost impossible to ban right. It will be more difficult they can. They can make this more difficult right but i can't do it constitutionally but they can make it more difficult And we'll be able to get away with it for at least a while until the courts overturned that that being said you know people who want to buy these do this. They're going to do it anyway. And people they what they wanna do is give you the impression that there's like a bunch of in cells who are sitting in their basements with their computers and watching youtube videos and putting these things together in five minutes and then going killing all their classmates in reality. That's just not whose first of all it's not. Who's doing the killing in this country. Yes there are events where one person will kill ten people in this really really tragic though. The overwhelming majority of these murders are happening with gangs and drug dealers. And the underworld. It's not like these are just hi there splashy events that make the news because a lotta times. They happen in the suburbs and areas. That are not normally used to crime but like if you want to stop gun violence in this country this. This does nothing i mean. Let's be honest about it. Gangs are not do. They don't have machinist knowledge. They're not going around and they're not doing these things this way. It's very very rare for this to occur. Just uh statistic this week so here. We are in april. We second in april now. Yeah it's april ninth there. There were so far this year. Seven hundred fifty nine shootings in chicago. Seven hundred and like we said you know A much lower number have died but seven hundred fifty nine people have been shot already and honestly like if you had to guess what would be the number of ghost. Guns used in those. I had to guess ten zero zero five. Probably guessed none. It's certainly not ten percent of them. No no it's just a it's just a ridiculous another ridiculous thing to scare people into giving away the rights. Let's let's do Bob in virginia bob. Welcome to the glenn beck program its patents to. Hey guys. How're you doing. Good how are you doing all right. I'm in saint boat with used to. I won't open the hood of a car anymore. My cars years ago and i loved it but i won't touch him now. This goes gun thing. I wouldn't even attempt it. However years ago. I built a fifty caliber hawkins thompson muzzleloader and it was fun. It was easy. I guess we want to keep our guns. We'll have to go back to muzzle loaders. 'cause that's the way it works. Thanks for the call bob. Let's try jeff in colorado jeff. Welcome to the glenn beck program with patents to thanks guys. Good morning in a Just real quick like three callers. Go the guy who's saying he needed to get a background check done. There's different kinds of lower receivers. you can buy You can look outstripped lower. Those are already milled out with the holes in them for all the stuff. They're already serialized so he considered a firearm. The most eighty percent lowers are just blank. You gotta do the milling yourself. That's the stuff you've been talking about Just clear that up real quarter real quick and you gotta touch on this a lot. A lot of the people. I know have those. I was going to buy a kit except for biden gotten office and you got through to check but they don't want to be legislated out of owning a gun whether it's an ar or semi automatic or shotgun or rifle and you know and not have anything to protect their families. If they ever do come to gun grab Watch riots in the streets and all those things. So the reason they're doing it is. I don't want it on the books what they're doing institutional you don't wanna be left without anything to defend my family or myself. This is this is. That's a great point. It's not it's not a murderer. Someone who saying look. I don't trust what you're going to do in the future. I don't wanna be on your stupid list. That makes a lot of sense to me. Triple eight seven twenty. 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Who says you lost any roller coaster accident. Oh yes she say that. Which is that's sad that roller coaster. Did you have a gun on a roller coaster. I strange but who am i i. You shouldn't bring them on roller coasters. But if you do you might lose them. And that's very sad. She did all right real quick. Let's go to a christian in iowa christian on the glenn beck program with pets to. Hey guys hey i for glenn Speaking of chicago last time we talked. You guys are making fun of me. Because i had to go to a sales meeting in chicago and couldn't vote for cruising the caucus raffia. Sandra good good to talk to you again. you nailed it there with the boating accident. Chew lost all mine in a canoe accent recent. So yeah it. It really sucks in one. Along with my polymer eighty. But here's why. I'm calling. Because so i got one of these bad boys that'd be kind kinda fun to mill out. It's extraordinarily expensive. It takes an extraordinarily long time. I'm pretty sure. I messed it up before you almost have to buy two of 'em 'cause there's just one out the first one. Yeah yeah i mean you gotta get drill press. You gotta get vices. All the things that everybody's been saying this in thirty minutes and you'll have a gun. It's ridiculous polymer eighty got raided back in december. So the reason why can't get these anymore is because they've been raided they aren't available any longer so it's really weird they wanna well law. You can be good interview guide to get those guys on. And now it's definitely good. Google that all lamar eighty rated now. We'll check out anything about that but You know. I don't know that it's It is a. It's clear what they're doing. Which is just a scare tactic. That's it's a sort of marquee scare tactic to push the underlying goal which is to take away law-abiding citizens in their weapons. The glenn beck program.

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"Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show. That's not immune to the facts with your host, Dan Bongino. I want him to Dan Bongino show producer Joe. How are you today? It's wonderful Wednesday. What shake with you there, daddy? How you doing? Listen, I'm doing good. It was just, you know, I'm on Twitter this morning, and it's it's fascinating because I found out from the Twitter ATI out there, the liberals who hate me who passionately. I don't think about that. But they think about me a lot amazingly Joe and tell you this before the show that I have been fired from a job. I don't even work at. That's incredible liberals are amazing how they figured you believe it. Joe's like what is he talking about what are you talking is sad to read that an IRA is shutting down, or ATV where I worked six months ago and left, of course I took a position with FOX's a contributor over there and yeah, well, I know which is not a really. Exciting or interesting story, but to liberals, it's fascinated because they're insisting this morning, how to enter ATV sadly was shut down that I was fired from his job. I don't even work. So good job liberals as always on top of the facts cycle time. Wrexham Berg, my wife and I listen, I reading the tweets or like this is Larry is it's like face palm have fired from a job, you left, six months ago. Very well done the writing at a stack show for you today. I want to start out with this article by David, her Sahni, which I'll get to in a minute, which really sums up. Why liberals really really hate you and can't stand you a lot. Not all that's good. Muller is gives us good Muller's going to testify July. Seventeenth, I'll get to that some questions from other, and also I want to show you some video later in the show of liberals on immigration with one of the biggest face bombs you've ever seen so stay tuned. Right. Today's show brought to you by buddies at Ali. 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New York Post, it's our elites who were driving America's divisions and points out the mega spend a lot of time on this. But I really I, I was debating starting to show with this because it's, it's, it's one of these takes a second to think this thing through, you need a little bit of a warm up, but it's worth your time, the takeaway from this study, that Harsanyi covers Joe is this. Let me ask you. I'm gonna I'm gonna put you on the spot. Joe as the audience. Okay. Would you think practically that the more education, a person had the more or less tolerant of the views of others? That person would be in other words, we, would you sell it just raises this but. Yeah, right. You'd you would. You would say you're there, the more educated. Right. You're aware more. You're smarter mob. You're, you're debating skills are better, your ability to engage in a dialogue. With people better. You would think that the more educated you are the more tolerant to the views of others. You would be STAN you would. Well, that may apply to conservatives you would. Right. But according to this new study that does not apply to liberals, ladies and gentlemen, and explain to you. Why in the context of our current not at all as a matter, of fact, study, the takeaway, listen to this? This is amazing. Joe? If you are a post doctorate degree hall, or a postgraduate degree holder. PHD MD lawyer would be whatever these may be the higher your degree of education. You are three times more likely to have misconceptions about if you're a liberal, that is about conservatives than you are. If you're a high school graduate thinking about what I just told okay from the piece from the New York Post piece while the misperceptions that Republicans harbor about Democrats don't improve with higher levels of education. The misconceptions Democrats have regarding Republicans only get worse with additional degrees. They earn this listen. This is incredible disaffected, so strong. Joe the study's authors note that Democrats with a high school diploma are three times more accurate than those with a postgraduate degree. Wow. That is stunning. Well, the more elitist snobbery boat. Tie wearing flog ri- eating sushi lunch, eating liberal, you get the more likely you are, to have profound, misconceptions about your political conservative, Republican, and libertarian opponents, meaning you're not smarter socially, urinated, the smarter. You get the dumber you get your social like you listen. Your academic CV may go up your resume, get better. But your social IQ goes down down down down and down to the point where you can't even compete with high school educated Democrats. Whoever reasonably reasonably good picture of how Republicans think and feel why is that? Why does this matter? Folks. It's very simple. We think this throw now you may say to yourself, why open the show with this store, with everything going on. We got the story that YouTube story questions for Muller at a national debt story, I'm hopefully I'll get through today tomorrow. I got an interesting Joe by two. Why start the show with this? Now shows a little different. We don't have an executive producer number one. It tells us that it was me pollen show that run it, but Secondly, ladies and gentlemen, this is what matters with election twenty twenty coming up. One of the reasons we do facts and data on this show is because I want you to understand the liberal argument before they make it why because during an election season, it's your ability to debate and argue basically, with your liberal, neighbors, and friends that may convince some of them or third party listening. You may not convince the liberal but someone listening to you guys, you know, Duke it out a little bit. You may convince them and in a sliver election, which I think twenty twenty is going to be where we're going to I think what we, we could win. But if we win it's not gonna be by much based on the partisanship in the country right now, it is important that are hundreds of thousands of listeners, have the mental munition you been essence. You understand the left, they will never understand you because they're not interested reminds me of a piece. I read a town. Hall, a long time ago about how the war against smoking in this country and tobacco worked people stop smoking, because people understood smokers because everyone had one in their fan. Right joe. Tell me you didn't have a smoke in your family. I did my mom used to wolf down, whatever a pack of stogies day, everybody knew a smoker and they knew how to talk to a smoker and compared it to the gun debate, how liberals are so elitist. Their snobbery is so intense and they're so isolated in her bubbles. They don't know firearm owners, so they make no effort to convince them and that's why they keep losing the firearms debate every time. We get them. They don't get us. This is very important. Now. Why is that? Why is it that the more educated liberals, get the dumber, they get socially and their ability to understand us conservatives. It makes perfect sense. I took this down in a note here. The more educated they are the more isolated. They become and the less understanding of the other side is very simple. Liberals. Remember this line here is the mantra. Whereas we think liberals are people with bad ideas. Liberals think you are bad people with ideas, and the more educated, the get they isolate themselves with other liberals in increasingly smaller social circles, they become less able to understand the bad people us, remember, they think they're where bad people with ideas. They don't think we have bad idea. They think were bad people and our motives are awful. And that 'isolation in decreases their understanding of us when you're a high school, educated, democrat who's maybe working in a coal mine. You're not one of these elitist snobs e soi, grat eaters with the bow tie every day, which are cocktail parties. You go out to work bless you. You get your fingernails dirty. You work for a living, you add value to society, but you don't have the economic elitist. These elitists snobs ability as your middle class like, you know, like. Like, like I grew up in my wife, did you don't have the ability to self segregate into the cocktail party circuit. You don't we didn't grow up like that. I think one of the abilities me and pollen, Joe have on this show is growing up in middle-class environments. We dealt with people of all political stripes in enables us to understand the smoker because we knew was smoker liberals as they get more educated. That's not what they do, because they think we're bad people. They self segregating to smaller and smaller and smaller elitist snob circles of other lawyers and other professionals, Hollywood snobs, and they stick to their guns that we are bad people. And because they don't know us and because there is located they don't care. We don't feel that way. We feel like they're people with bad ideas. Therefore, we don't feel the need to avoid them. You wanna debate. Let's debate my favorite segments on FOX. Or when I debate liberals, my favorite one's hands down. That's not the same for liberals about a lot of them, don't want it. Abate me. Folks pieces worth your time again. David Harsanyi and the New York Post police check it out to be in the show notes. Today. He opens up in the beginning talking about this elitist scifi writer, who basically writes novel about this to how America's fracturing into this sponge of, hey. See chew in idiots like us. And then these elitists, that I lose you. I there. Yeah, we had an issue here. All we did. All right. I'm like, where's Joe I usually I hear a little bit of feedback from me. So first time I ever, so that's, that's my point of Vokes remember, they think we are bad people with ideas. We think there are people with bad ideas, and we wanna convince them, they don't want to convince you, they want to self segregate and smarter. They get there. So social circles, get smaller and smaller and smaller they avoid conservatives and libertarians and Republicans at all costs because they think you're awful and therefore they have no ability to debate because they never have to debate an important story worth your time, okay? Moving on. So last night, I was doing a appearance was going to say hit, I don't like these the industry lingo, because means different things to different people. I was doing an appearance on Sean Hannity show from my home office right here. I just changed the screen in the background for those looking for a little behind the scenes action. And while I was on the air is supposed to be debating, Geraldo about immigration, and what happened is was a curve ball. Because Jerry Nadler announce so with Adam Schiff last night, that Bob Muller is now going to testify up on Capitol Hill. Have the story up Papun, Gino dot com. You can see there on July seventeenth. Now, ladies and gentlemen, I said last night on the air and I will say again, I think this is going to blow up in absolutely spectacular fashion for the Democrats again because Bob, Muller's case was a train wreck. The report was a train wreck. And Muller has significantly stated he is not going to testify to anything outside of the four corners of his report, his report exonerated, President Trump. I love tweeting that because it drives liberals crazy. President Trump was not charged with anything. The evidence of obstruction was tainted because he left out all the ex culpa. Tori. Evidence, Muller's report is a joke. It's a fairy tale for idiots and the problem is now that Muller was subpoenaed by these two morons Madeline shift these two liberal. Democrats. I'm not sure they realized how badly an epic fashion, this is going to absolutely exploded in their face. Okay. Nadler has been entirely incompetent running. This case, Nadler's, the one Jerry Nadler, he brought hope picks up there. President trump's. Oh, communications director started calling her MRs Lewin douse game one of the most misogynist, disgusting displays I've ever seen. He's the one who brought up, John dean the Nixon era lawyer for Richard Nixon testimony, entirely blew up and John dean's face made the Democrats look like idiots, Jerry Nadler has no ability to manage us. Now I received a bunch of emails and tweets from listeners last night saying, Dan, you have to address. Why are they doing this? Why are they bringing Waller back? Okay. I, I just laid out reason number one reason, number one is Nadler's moron, folks. He's a moron listened to me. I have a blog. Lot of good sources up there a lot. The Democrats on the hill. Joe are furious with Nadler, he has entirely mismanaged this impeachment. Muller report inquiry from day one. Right. He has bloated every hearing he's called has blown up in his face. He has made a fool out of himself. It is he is he's just incompetent. That's reason. Number one. He just doesn't know what he's doing. I'm not sure Nadler, even understands how badly the Muller report is going to blow up in Muller's face when he's forced to answer questions about it. But number two, why are they doing this, the Democrats because ladies and gentlemen? They don't have anything else Nadler is desperate to stay in front of the cameras, because he just these are not good. People stop applying motives to people like Nadler and shift. I'm when I said goodbye, I'm talking about these committee, folks talking about Democrats in general. I'm talking about. I don't want to do what they. Due to us. I'm talking about Nadler in shift. These are not good people. Their motives are to stay in front of the cameras, because they reside from really liberal Democrat, plus twenty districts in some cases, and they need to raise money. In other words, Nadler in Schiff. Follow me here, there is no penalty for their behavior at all right? They are not running in competitive district. The district's will vote them in no matter what they could be caught on camera stealing. Donald Trump's French fries, and it doesn't matter, Nadler, and shift will get reelected, because of that they can make really stupid moves because the people in their districts won't penalize them. And these stupid moves are continue to torture, the Trump administration by bringing them into congress and making them answer ridiculous questions about a crime that never happened. Ladies and gentlemen, other Democrats are furious about this. I'm getting this from the hill. There are people running in competitive districts, Democrats, where they could actually lose where they won by a sliver, even in, in the democrat wave last time Joe who are in a panic about this understanding how stupid, this decision was, but Nadler doesn't care. They want to beat up and treat the Trump administration like a punching bag because it doesn't matter for Nadler, it's as simple as that. Now, some questions for Muller. I said last night at had any I'll repeat again. When exactly did you know, there was no collusion? He's going to be under oath. Now I want that answer. He I'm telling here's the answer, folks. When did the minute, he gets hired? He knows there's no collusion, because he hires Andrew Weisman is this lead investigator, who knows a year earlier Muller's hired in may of twenty seventeen Weisman knows in August of twenty sixteen a year earlier a little less than a year. Why smitten knows where the dossier came from? He knows it's a garbage political document. You think Weisman doesn't tell Muller that I want someone if congress is listening, please. I know some of you listen. Make sure you nail him down under oath. When Weisman informed him exactly about the details of where the dossier came from because it will prove to you that for six hundred plus days. Bob Muller was engaged in a witch on of Donald Trump and knew the entire time that this. Case this collusion thing was a hoax. The obstruction charge was always not sense. It was an excuse to keep the case open. Question two now that we know from John Solomon's piece about the black ledger and Paul Manafort, how the black ledger this alleged document that showed that mine afford. Bob his campaign manager at one point Trump that, that he was paid in cash with these elicit payments. We now know according to John Solomon's, reporting that, that black ledger was likely a fraud when did you find that out? When did you find out, you may be investigating Manafort, on illicit payments based on another fraudulent document? In addition to the fraudulent dossier, you were using when did you find that out? Bob. Question, number three, you again, we're after Manafort, because of his communications, we Constantine Kalinic suggesting that Kalinic was a Russian Intel guy, this was all the fairies, any context, Manafort habit. Kalinic were open for investigation. When did you find out Solomon reported as well in the hill that constantly Kalinic was a State Department intelligence source for who yes, the Obama administration? That's right. Did you investigate them to Bob? Can't have it. Both ways Bobby. Can't have communications with Kalinic between Manafort as evidence of collusion and then when Kalinic's communicating with the Obama State Department, that's not collusion. Same guy, same guy. Can't have it. I'd like to see someone asks that. I'd like to see somebody asked him, why Natalia Veselin at sky, the, the Russian lawyer meets with Don Trump junior at Trump Tower in this infamous meeting. I'd like to know why that you dedicated multiple pages of your report to that. And you don't mention anywhere the vessel knits sky was working for the company hired by Hillary Clinton. Bob, you want to answer that one. Bob a Bob. Say, but we get through the bottom of that one daddy. Oh, you got an answer for that. I hope someone's taking notes on this. I don't mean to be disrespectful to people up on the hill. I mean that I should have phrased that, but I'm serious. If someone doesn't ask these questions, consider political malpractice. Why didn't you mention that, Bob? That's not relevant house on relevant. You're suggesting in your ridiculous op-ed known as the Muller report, it's an opinion piece folks. It's not a serious document. You're suggesting that this meeting would vessel sky is somehow what evidence of some. Why would you include it? Otherwise, evidence of some illicit activity, yet you don't mention at the very same woman is working for team Hillary do a surrogate. You don't mention that at all. That's not relevant. Bob, bob. Bob. One final question, Bobby? Go bob. So Lisa page is already testified under oath. Upper level FBI lawyer. Worked right under anti McCabe, the deputy director. She already testified under oath that when you were hired may of twenty seventeen. Bob, that the FBI despite many months of investigating Donald Trump still couldn't find anything and she quotes said it still could have been literally nothing the collusion charge. Bob, if it was literally nothing as the FBI is suggesting why were you still investigating collusion? Why were you still investigating collusion after July of twenty seventeen when the inspector general gives you the tax between Lisa page in stroke, and they lay out their whole scheme, because they hate Donald Trump, why were you still investigating were you interested in any of that? Bob. There's your questions for Bob. Bob's in big trouble. All right. Today's show also brought to you by buddies at brickhouse nutrition. You know, I'm a big fan of brick ask intrusion and their supplements. That's you. Here it is hair. It is foundation foundation. This is one of the best supplements out there. Love this stuff. Joe loves it. His son little Joe loves my family loves it. We all take it politics. I take it. I can't say enough about this product you wanna look better. You want to feel better. You wanna perform better notice? How I'm synchronizing my things here here, here it is those listening on the audio there it is pretty good. Better. Not do that too much found. 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And the day before of YouTube executives basically, talking about how they suppress conservative content, and the guise of fairness, folks, we all know it's happening for YouTube to deny it is utterly absurd and outrageous. But here's a YouTube taken a shot at comedy today. Here's a tweet. They put out at YouTube insider. We've had lots of questions today. Clarifying. We apply our policies fairly and without political bias, all creators are held to the same thing. Yeah. Read her red flare new there we go. Folks. I am calling total Bs on Joe. I didn't show you this before the show now just to show. So yesterday we provide you too. By the way, we've content YouTube makes money, off our content by selling ads that money is split. I think an unfair split with us. And folks with us, we wind up getting monetize, all the time on YouTube for reasons they never described to us at all big tech tyranny is real. They hate conservatives. They won't even described as wire videos or democratize now. You may say well why continue to post there because he's a gentleman. It's not about the money Paulin. I'll be fine. We will Jobe find Joel job at secure. We're not. It's fine. We will be okay. We have other platforms to get our way out, get our content out there. I am not worried, but it's not pleasant. The fact that we put our content up on YouTube, and they monetize us. Insult, but it does us more. Good to get these ideas out there and have people share them than it does for me to say. Well, I'm just going to boycott youtuber may come to that in the future. I have a plan B I'm working on. But not now we're still here now and it does help us for you to subscribe, a lot now I'm going to ask you a favor because I'm gonna show you something in a minute picture of our own content. But ladies and gentlemen, it's clear YouTube algorithm. Which really means a discrimination policies against conservatives, it's clear. They have a way of making our content not say suggested recommendation other words, they won't suggest are content to others, while they'll do it for liberals, right? Why, why bring this up? I bring this up as a personal plea you to talk about number one YouTube story. But really, I don't do this a lot on the show, ladies and gentlemen, I need you to share the content to share the YouTube to share the link to share our Omni linked to share apple podcast Ling. I need we don't have a marketing budget, big enough, like other conservative outlets to bypass YouTube sensors, we don't I need you. Now, we started talking about YouTube censorship and look what happened to us on YouTube just this show you how real this is here's episode one thousand eight me, make an funny face. I screen shot there episode one thousand eight where we I we had two hundred eight thousand views overnight on that show. I guess YouTube gets wind that we're talking about. You also look at what happened last night, eighty thousand views, ladies and gentlemen, that was not by chance. Okay. The content was good. The concept was find. You may say, well, you have dated back that up. I do. Are Omni show are audio only podcast available on apple. Iheart soundcloud, elsewhere not YouTube are audio only show was up not down. So if it was a content problem, then obviously, the other words show makes sometimes it's maybe the show just doesn't interest, people, then why would this show go up from Monday, Tuesday on audio how 'bout then and then go down dramatically on YouTube because clearly, they're censoring, conservative content, folks? It's ridiculous. It allies are endless. Now, it's that Al Gore. Yeah. Yeah. That means that the math guy who invented the internet, the internet, too. That's good. And he properly invented the algorithm. They use to suffer. Good to silence. And suppress conservative content. It's happening. Yeah. So it's a plea to you, please share a context. We can't do the show without you. But ladies gentlemen. This stuff is real it happens. All right. I want to get to this story through this is important. I've got some killer video here now of the immigration immigration stories really. It's gotten it. It's gotten bad right now. It's gotten really bad because this is a legitimate full blown now crisis at the southern border. It is a crisis at the southern border that's being made worse by constant litanies of liberal lies in an effort to gaslight you about what's not happening about what's happening. This is important. So just to be clear on this. There was a story, I covered yesterday about children being kept in a facility along the southern border. Those children are in that facility. It's important. You understand why. Because they were brought to the country illegally, ladies and gentlemen. There is a legal way to enter the United States of America. You will not be detained in a facility, if you simply by, by the law, that is just the fact liberals don't want you to understand that they want you to believe that the United States is just randomly plucking people off at border crossings, and imprisoning them in what calls concentration camps. One of the dumbest comments in the history of the US congress. But she's good for that. Knows nothing. And what she does know is typically wrong. That is not what's happening. These children are in the facility in question where the conditions granted or not very good. Because the children have been brought here with people who are not their parents illegally, number one. They're brought here illegally. Number two. They've been brought here by people who are claiming that their, their parents, and they're not, they take a cheek swab DNA. It's not their kid. Right. Do you understand this libs? Is this hard to figure out, you have a child at a border being traffic by a person saying its their parent when it's not the United States government is not going to leave the child with a child trafficker is this what's hard about this? You brought here illegally by person trafficking. You and you want the government to do what let the child just roam around with a child trafficker in the United States of America. The kid could be being sexually abused? Physically abused has any of this occurred to you. So it's easy for people like AO. See to say the conditions are bad. They're concentration camps while never getting to the source of the problem. Well, why open up chapter one of the book, don't start a chapter six Thomas soul. Senate debate once and I was a pre that liberals always his line was. Why do you guys are we start the story in the middle? These are concentration camps. These kids are being kept it. How did they get there? Well they were brought here illegally. They were by who owe their brought to you by people claiming to be their parents, that aren't all by child traffickers. Oh, okay. Interesting. Now, rich Lowry has a really good piece in the New York Post. I really like you to read this, and this is not a Trump guy at all. Okay. Rich is Republican, but he was a pretty prominent anti-trump guy for a while. But it's a piece worth your time I say that because even either French Trump and his title border camp conditions are disgraced? But there's no conspiracy behind it by rich Lowry up in the show notes today. He points out inside the piece that these facilities due to the volume of children. Being traffic are not ready for this from the peace, assuming the account is accurate. One wonders how we treat anyone this way, let alone children. But a lawyer who talked to the New Yorker mentioned, the telling fact the facility that they're talking about the concentration. In camp previously had a capacity of one hundred and four and it never held children before yet. Now it holds roughly three hundred and fifty children, apparently accommodated by a new warehouse. All this is consistent with vast numbers of migrants. Many of them families and children, flooding the border and overtaxing facilities never meant for these kinds of numbers or this demographic. Folks, I am. So. I'm tired of being tired. Not even. I'm tired of being tired about this liberal. I hate America America's a horrible place. We put kids in concentration camps, this, it, you guys are sick. We are dealing with an unprecedented crisis at our southern border hundreds of thousands of people flooding, it illegally many, bringing kids with them to get around the florist, consent decree where we can't hold kids for more than twenty days, which forces us to release the parents to incentivize them to bring kids with them in many cases, who are not even their own kids. These kids are being traffic across the border back and forth with adults so the adults can't be detained more than twenty days. Stop starting the story in the middle. You know, although I was happy to be on FOX. I said about the mullet thing I was actually looking forward to that immigration debate with a, roll them to see what he would say about this. Stop starting to story in the middle. These kids are in facilities that are not that are the conditions aren't very good. You mean the facilities that were not conditioned to hold all these people who are now coming here illegally? You mean those facilities? Now, this is an unprecedented crisis. We have never had this volume of people enter our country illegally at the same time. We are not one big giant hotel chain. But remember, the democrat, these fraud, Democrats and the media, they're Democrats are not reporters remember these frauds, Joe a while ago who now are claiming their concentration camps on the border. And I got to say, oh, see tweak come in at a minute, by the way, that's going to blow your mind Oko anyway. So you how, how ignorant this Agnew? Ramos of a congresswoman is ship train wreck. But when we had the opportunity to fix this problem, a little while ago fascinating enough. We had CNN lunatics telling us there's nothing to worry about hat tip to CNN for. Here's this video of Don lemon. Otherwise, Don lemon, Don lemon telling us a little while ago. Joe, don't worry about it. Now remember, just keeping my, we're go with this now. We have is devastating problem in this crisis with concentration camps on the border. But Don lemon, here's a little while ago, telling us nothing to worry about folks. No worries. At all play the cut. Here's a really really disgraceful thing. Okay. You're listening. All of this. This whole mess is manufactured. It's manufactured crisis. A non crisis at the border, that's really not fooling anybody. People make the oh, it's crisis crisis. They know it's not a crisis. That's all for political expediency. That's all for getting what they want. It's all for saving this president's rear end after all, what kind of emergency is it when you do? Absolutely nothing about it for the first two years of your term. When you let thirty five days of shutdown go by and not incidentally force eight hundred thousand federal workers to go without their paychecks. When you give congress three weeks to make a deal. For far less than you wanted. And then and only then the Clarin emergency. What do we stupid? Emmanuel factored, emergency all to keep a campaign promise that the majority of Americans don't want you to keep. What kind of a -mergency is that do you see the frauds the epic frauds? These people are, let's rewind the tape go back to the beginning of the show. What I told you why liberals the smarter. They get the more educated. They are why they hate you even more because again, they're not arguing ideas, ladies and gentlemen, or principals, they are arguing that you are a bad person, Trump bad. Conservatives bad Islam. Phobic misogynistic. Fo- befo bec-. Phobia, phobic, Zena phobic. Phobia, phobic. Phobic is the phobic phobia foams. They're arguing you are a horrible person. They're not arguing ideas. How do we know that because that's Don lemon? A couple of months ago saying there's no crisis at the border. The same Don lemon. Now, let me read you, Don lemon quote. And by the way hat tip. Stephanie Hammo for this. All right. I just I'm sorry screen shove this. Stephanie hamlet whereas that, oh, darn it. What? Yeah, I sorry folks, I forgot I thought I took a screen what? Put it up, dude, I send it to you. Oh, good. See my wife said there for the rescue. This is what happens when you have an unfiltered show, this Londono seventy Hamill tweeted, you could see. Now thankfully, Paula rescued me there. Don lemon today calling it a crisis folks. They're not arguing principles or ideas. Do you give them saying this is critical? You understand this? They're arguing you conservative. You are awful. You're a terrible person. Look, you can see it yourself. That's the quote from Don lemon, Don lemon. Now, we are in a crisis down limit a few months ago. We're not in a crisis. He's not arguing an idea. He's arguing that you are horrible. And this immigration is your fault because your motives are bad. They are frauds. These people are grade a tier one level, sixty s infected frauds. There's more it's not just on the mon- Pat tip Tucker, by the way, that's his nickname. This is so called journalists fake news specialists in reality, Jim Acosta down at the southern border, Jim Mukasa. And by the way now, claiming we're in a concentration camp like crisis right defending all this nonsense. And this is Jim Acosta again. A few months ago, telling us there's nothing to worry about there's no crisis because he's not arguing an idea. He's arguing that he hates you and you're a bad person. Here's Jim Acosta. Here are some of the steel slaps at the president's been talking about right here, as you can see yes. You can't see through these lots to the other side of the US beco- border. But as we're walking along here. We're not seeing any kind of imminent danger, there are no migrants trying to rush toward this fence here in the mcallen, Texas area. As a matter of fact, there's some other businesses behind me along this highway, there's a gas station, Burger King, and so on. But no sign of the national emergency that the president has been talking about, as a matter of fact, it's pretty tranquil down here. The thing to worry about folk don't chew worry. One bit a cost. The says there's nothing to worry about yet. This is the same network that will defend Alexandria case, yo Cortez. And that her ridiculous offensive claims that were running concentration camps on the porter is Jim Acosta denying their concentration camps. What about Don lemon? Is anybody anybody in the mainstream media going to hold these people accountable? Listen for CNN sliver of an audience, there are still tens of people that watch their in an airport somewhere stuck. They probably don't hear the sound and they have to read the script on the bottom. But there are tens of people that watched CNN who actually believe these people are arguing on principles. They are not. He has no principles. He has no principles. He just argued with Don lemon a few months ago that there's nothing to worry about, and now they're making the case because the political winds of change that there's a crisis with concentration camps. Again, the whole FEMA today's show. They believe you are bad, people not people with bad ideas. They're not arguing the ideas left, this aren't arguing that Trump of struck the Justice. Yeah. They are not to know they're they have no evidence of that, folks, that's case they're arguing Trump Trump bed that he's awful. They don't care facts. Don't matter when you argue with them, you are arguing hoping a third party. Here's the rational, side, you, they are not rational. These people are immune to facts. That's why the opening of our show. We've never changed it. This show's not immune fax. We have never wavered from the fact that there is a situation at the southern border. All right. I wanna get next to this tweet by please. Don't go anywhere because this just goes to show you how really really troubled that. I mean it these people are, this is probably the most ignorant human being who has ever stepped foot on Capitol Hill. She is the most destructive force. I've seen up there in a long time. I'll prove it to you in a second. She actually hurting these. All right. Finally today's show brought to you by buddies at Bravo company, manufacturing, ladies and gentlemen. 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Nobody wants that nobody wants that now listening to the show once a bunch of whether they're in the country legally. Or not is irrelevant to that with we can make conditions there, livable. We wanna do it. There's nothing wrong with that. So the United States government, under the Trump administration is trying to get beds for these kids to sleep on rather than a concrete floor. Sita's like that. Look at her tweet. I thought she wanted to solve the problem. She didn't want to solve anything. She wants to throw fuel and fire. Here's a tweet Wayfair workers couldn't stomach. They were making beds to cage children. She just complained about these kids sleeping on the floor. So employees for Wayfair are supposedly walking out. So these Wayfair she says they asked the company to stop the CEO said, no tomorrow. They're walking out. This is what solidarity looks like right? So you see, or a reminder that everyday people have real power as long as we're brave enough to use this woman's a disgrace. Oh, she said this grace, this is so disgraceful. That even an I listen, I have been more than deferential to the fact that she wanted congressional seat. Congratulations. But now it is your responsibility to lead from the front. How dare you dare you make it an issue at a free market company selling beds to the government. So that kids who are. Brought here legally, in many cases, the result of child trafficking don't have to sleep on the floor, and you have a beef with it this, your a disgrace to the United States Congress and an embarrassment to your position. And you Wayfair workers, you this is evidence again, of the sick, deranged, snowflake generation of losers idiots who would rather see a bunch of five six seven year old kids sleep on a concrete floor who were brought here as a result of child trafficking. Then, actually, to give the President Trump admit President, Trump's administration, a victory on this issue. You care about politics and you care about hurting the other side, because principals are irrelevant to you. You think we are bad, people that is all that matters to you is hurting us? That's it in your triaging of needs at your hierarchy of that pyramid. Number one for you is not even food and water. It's damaging and hurting conservatives because you think we are bad people and the smarter you get as liberals, the worse it gets. This is one. Colossal ignoramus Alexandra case, yo Cortes, who would rather with her staged photos, who would rather see kids on concrete floors, then have the government fix the problem because the Trump administration may get some political credible? Who cares? This grace to the United States Congress total, complete disgrace. And if you follow and abide by this woman's, nonsensical stupid economic zero zero zero one ridiculous policies, and our dopey, you all conservatives are horrible, people tweet, I really genuinely feel bad for you. You are being led off the cliff like a bunch of drunk. Lemmings. Sure. So stupid, so stupid. It's the kids beds. Well, let's not sleep on the floor week. We showed them it's gonna sells big time huge. All right now, given that the theme of the show today is been. Liberals thinking you're bad people and not combat in your ideas. They don't have principals member principle supposedly was getting these kids beds. But then when we actually argued that okay, let's get them beds. Let's buy from Wayfair. She hated it. They're arguing that they hate you. You're bad people. I have two stories here, one from axios. Apparently some place, the Avery is some kind of bar, whatever it may be restaurant place. Eric Trump, the president's son was in this bar, and Eric Trump says a cocktail bar worker spit on him by Rebecca Falconer hat tip axios. I'll have this in the show notes as well showing you again, liberals hate you. It's not that Eric Trump has bad ideas, according to liberals it said, Eric Trump is a bad person me, the spit on them, liberals cannot control themselves, now making because every political ideological movement has idiots in it. I'm not suggesting that there's not some conservative someday who may do something like this. Here's the different Joe. Here's the distinction aren't. And you know, this is well, as I do my bro- that person would never be welcome inside polite conservative circles. And I don't mean polite like manners wise. I mean, people who by the constitution and believe other people have God given rights to. We don't spit on people. And if you do get out of our movement. Liberals on the other hand will worship this, this person is employees did here. Look at this spit on. That's great now because I was an agent at one point, you do that, to any protect, you will be arrested. Sure. Eric Trump now refused to press charges which. You know, it's up to him his call. It was, I guess him making nice gesture, you know, to try and smooth it. Oh, I don't I don't agree with it. I think this lady should go to jail or wherever it was a guy. Whatever may be. But that's fine. That's his call. But liberals can't stand you keep your head on a swell around these people. They will attack you, kick you spit on. You throw you out of restaurants. They will take pride and joy in your humiliation. They will attack you look at what's happening my friend, Dana lash today. So again, in our ATV's shuts down. So apparently Dane is moving on. They know be fine. She's got a radio show, scatter other stuff there. Liberals love it. They're celebrating it. They take it's the greatest thing ever. They take pride in trying to humiliate you and to hurt you. It is a sickness. Here's another story from legal insurrection. It's worth your time about a SUNY old Westbury professor, SUNY state university of New York system. I went to one of their schools for my freshman year SUNY, Stony Brook. If fascinating story legal insurrection by Michael chance, yet, be in the show notes a literature. Professor says it makes him happy to see poor white people begging. From the peace, folks, I'm telling you, I could read stories like this to you all day. Nncholas powers writes in race bait or if that's ever appropriately named alad. The article has since been deleted, by the way that quote, white people begging us for food feels like Justice, if feels like afro future, ISM after America falls, if feels like a black nationalist, wet dream. It has the fields. I rarely feel a hunger for historical vengeance. Satisfy satisfied, so, well, I rub my belly ladies and gentlemen. These are sick, sick troubled people, I strongly encourage you, if you have an ounce of spirituality left than you to pray for these people man pray for. I mean that that's just Ray for the souls of the sick, you believe that's just punch you in the guy that's either. Unquestionably unquestioned unadulterated, evil, ladies and gentlemen. Let's. This is important to me, and I am please hear me out on this. Folks, I'm I'm Italian and Irish a little bit of German. My wife is Colombian. I'm black. I'm not a minority. I, I don't know what it's like I don't to live as a black man. I'm not. I mean it's simple statement effect. But I had one interesting experience one time in a job and someone mistook me for being a minority in the boss. They said something that was really offensive. I'm not going to go into it, but it was my one kind of brush with racism, even though I'm not black or Hispanic. You know, my wife is suspending, I'm, I'm not, but it kind of stung, and I'll tell you folks. And I mean this changed me forever. I mean to the point is this was gosh twenty years ago. I'm still talking about it today. I may have mentioned it on the show before. I know I've talked about the incident to Joe a who knows the specifics of it. But I'll leave that part out because I don't want to distract from this from the from the point. I'm trying to make that was one small incident. And it affected me forever. Can you imagine being a black or Hispanic male or an Asian male? Someone of a different faith, and being discriminated against and have these insults of lob that you six seven eight times a year, a month, some cases, maybe for some week, ladies and gentlemen, I am not and no conservative. I know who believes in the inherent right of every human big our God, given right to freedom of every human being no conservative. I know is callous to that black America, one through a far different experience decades ago than I did far different and no, conservative libertarian should ever discount that, and I know we don't Jim crow and slavery were real. It happened. Slavery was generations ago, thankfully, and our country fought and sacrificed, hundreds of thousands of men to wipe the stain of free. But Jim crow wasn't that long ago. There were people due to the color of their skin, only who couldn't drink from a water fountain. Cindy sitting a lunch counter and parts of our country in an active such pure unadulterated evil as well. That you can understand why the psychological trauma, that would be hard to just make go away. You can't queue imagine the indignity of being told you can't sit at a lunch counter because you're black most of you can't I can't and thank God you can't. But you can figure it out Bill. How awful that must have been. But ladies and gentlemen, the reason I bring this up the remedy to this in the future. To reaching some degree of good strong, solid racial, harmony, where we judge people purely purely by their character, and their deeds. The way to do that is not to go down. This evil has Joe accurately described path that the radical left wants you where we take as that guy writes in the peace revenge on other people who have a skin color. You don't like. We are not ever going to wipe the stain of defacto racism from this country that happened the Jim crow and slavery in the past ever by taking revenge against people have skin color. You don't like I thought I made the mistake in a sumptuous a long time ago that rational people understood this. But the left doesn't because again, they profit off trafficking in the hate because they believe you are not a person with bad ideas. You are a bad person with ideas, and you must be punished. Revenge must be taken. We will take joy as this ridiculous racist author says in white people begging for food, we will spit on people as this person who spit on Eric Trump. We will prosecute the president for crime. We know he didn't commit because they can't stand you. When you wake up to that reality, you will understand better, what exactly where fighting and this matters because you're not arguing with that person. You may say what, what are you suggesting what's the solution? You're saying now don't bother these these radical liberals hate, you can't get through ladies and gentlemen. But you can. You can get through to the third person listening. I'm gonna leave you with a quick story. I was running for office. I was up at the Maryland state fair. Joe knows where it is in Baltimore County to Moni him sitting here at the Republican booth campaigning for the US Senate got into a verbal back and forth with a schoolteacher who doesn't believe kids should have the choice of in their parents. What school this year? She was a big anti school choice advocate. She was entirely irrational made a bunch of arguments that were silly not based on facts or data, and we're totally immoral. Basically, kids should be locked in terrible schools. This went on for about twenty minutes. I did not make any headway at all with this woman. She was convinced. She was right folks, I kid, you not about five minutes after the woman left the guy or woman, I forget came up to me afterwards, the booth and said, you know, I was listening to that whole thing, and I never thought about it that way. Guy say it was a guy I forget because you're absolutely right about that. Those kids parents deserve a choice. I never forgot that you are not arguing with the liberal understand, though, even though they think you are bad people, and you will never convince them that third person listening, as long as you don't apply that same logic to them, and you fight their ideas, not their personality. You will win in the end. And hopefully we convinced enough people that there is a better way. Thanks for tuning and folks, I really appreciate it. Please. Subscribe to the show YouTube dot com slash Bongino, please share it. We can't rely on YouTube to do that clearly, they're holding down our stuff. She's driving me crazy. The monetize and everything and police subscribing or apple podcasts an iheartradio and soundcloud, as well. It's all free. It's a subscriptions that help our content get around. Thanks a lot. I'll see automo- you just heard the Dan Bongino show, you can also get Dan's podcast on itunes soundcloud, and followed in on Twitter twenty four seven at dbongino.

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The Rush Limbaugh Show Podcast - Jul 08 2020

The Rush Limbaugh Show

1:50:50 hr | 11 months ago

The Rush Limbaugh Show Podcast - Jul 08 2020

"Welcome to today's edition of the rush, limbaugh show podcast. Hi, everybody, how you doing everything. Okay? Trucking along fine out there. We are here at the EIB network and we're revving ready to go for three straight hours. Of Broadcast, excellence much of which will be spent. Chatting with you looking forward to it, right, there's perfect, absolutely, l., perfecto gut see. He telephone number. You WanNa be on the programs. Eight, hundred, two, eight, two, two, eight, eight, two and e mail address elrushbo at. Dot Us, Mr Snerdley is our sheduled guest still scheduled. Okay so. You have some slides for me. Slight essentially meet some slides to look at it. Mean like. Thirty five millimeter slides. What what what kind of slim? Are, you mean slides of like Amoeba. Swimming around and. In brains I. Mean What what slides? Got Ron Two stanzas the Governor Florida is going to be with us at the bottom of the second one thirty three. Is the precise time and Mr Snerdley said they're. They're going to send some slides over now slides to me those things you used to put a Carousel projector instead of pictures or a slide that you put under a microscope to look at disease, you know me, bas and sperm swimming around in there watching them go slides. Graphs. Graphs and charts. Okay all right so anyway. We're looking. We're looking for governor Sanchez has been a trailblazer here and he's fearless. He's one of the. People we talk about Pioneers Take Arrows and he clearly has been a pioneer in this area and the reason that I wanted to talk to him is because I saw yesterday that he's moving forward with opening the schools. This has to happen if the the question I have about this. If the schools are closed. How are the children going to eat? Is this, not starving kids if we don't open the schools. Now I'm talking about something that many of you probably remember in some of you may not. Depends on your age and it depends on what you're paying attention to back in. Nineteen ninety-five. In Nineteen ninety-five, there was this gigantic battle over the federal budget. Bill Clinton was president. Mr Newt was the speaker of the House. And the Republicans were experiencing a new wave of popularity and power, having won the house for the first time in forty years in nineteen ninety to. Nineteen ninety-four. And so it was de midterms after Clinton. Had won the presidency in Nineteen ninety-two. And, so there was a showdown over the federal budget. And the Republicans of course wanted to reduce it. They didn't and there. There never is folks, too. So you understand budget talk. There never is a genuine reduction. From one year to the next federal spending all there is, it's called line budgeting, and it guarantees certain percentage increases department by Department at averages out. To about eight to ten percent per department. So, if the Republicans come along and say, we want to reduce spending on this item. By a four percent. It's still going to be an increase of six percent, but the Democrats in media runaround they start talking about Republicans are cutting the budget. Draconian cuts. The federal budget never gets smaller. Overall. Suspending never goes down overall. We're just talking about reductions in the rate of growth. And we're talking about losing the language. The the The idea here? was to get started on. Trying to get to the point where we would actually reduce federal spending. Well this budget battle. Focused on. Education and the school lunch program. Democrats led by Clinton harped on the idea to. Republicans wanted to starve kids. Republicans wanted to starve kids, even though the school lunch program was not being cut. And Federal Education was not being cut. It was not going to get a ten percent increase, but it was still going to get an increase. And then the Democrats went to various parts of the country and they had little school. Kids write letters. To Republicans in Congress. Fear Mr Congressman I can't. I can't learn when I'm hungry. Why do you want to starve me and my fellow classmates? Why do you not want me to eat? What is it you have against me and I mean they were bamboozled they neighbor. They were flooded with these letters. Supposedly written by kids of course I'm sitting here, saying, are you kidding me? These kids have parents are their parents to let these kids even if this were true and it isn't. We're the parents going to sit there this? Let Their kids starve. And that the answer to that became rhetorical, yes. So. The Democrats now don't want the schools to open. The Democrats want to keep schools closed. Trump wants to open them. For a host of reasons, the economy needs schools open. And in person, education is much better than online again he's talking about. High School and Middle School most people don't even most students are cutting class. The percentage of people actually tuning in online connecting and all that is. You can't even quantify it. But see I was told back in one, thousand, nine, hundred five that parents cannot feed their children. So why do the Democrats? And the teachers unions want to starve children by keeping the schools closed. Trump is pressuring schools to reopen. He does not want children to starve obviously. The president is fighting. The president's fighting the keep your children fad. Heartless Democrats apparently don't care if they starve or not. I mean this is A. Quite a turnaround, of course, yes, I think facetious and rhetorical here, but it does. Make the point that Democrats are using the Kuroda victories. To make women give up their jobs if you can't. The kids off to school than the care of the parents can't go to work, and the parents can't afford nannies in babysitters and all of this so your bike, my keeping the schools closed. You're also keeping a lockdown of sorts on the economy. which then results in women staying home bare foot in the kitchen. The Democrats are going to be responsible for women barefoot and probably pregnant in the kitchen with other kids running around harassing I'm driving. Mom Crazy driving dad crazy. And starving at the same time, because mom doesn't know how to feed them. We learned this in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety five. Half of the fathers aren't going to be around because they don't want to mess with this mess, so they're out there going through the motions of looking for a job. What they're really looking for is a bar. It's open. Get away from all is. It it's. Now in Palm Beach County. Which is where we are headquartered here. Are you ready for this in Palm Beach County? They are giving free breakfast and lunch. At closed screw wools. HOW IT WORKS! The MOM who doesn't know how to feed her own kids. At home. Packs up in the car. Maybe doesn't even have to take them the MOM. Maybe she can't find the kids. She don't know where they are. Out there, the swing set. They're running around out of the beach. Who knows where they are? But she's still gotta get them fed and she doesn't know how to do it, so the schools are open. For drive by parental drive by so parents who don't know how feed their kids in heavens, since one thousand, nine hundred five drive up to their neighborhood, Palm Beach, county school and somebody their hands them breakfast. And they come back later and somebody hands on lunch now. This means kids in Palm Beach. County are going without dinner. Because the schools are not. You can't drive by there and get dented an open for dinner, right? What's pathetic? I know there's entire operation I know as pathetic. Is Pathetic we. We can't open the schools. The kids are GonNa Starve it's Democrats, and the Democrats are willing to sacrifice the education the propaganda. They're willing to sacrifice the indoctrination opportunity. I'll tell you something else. I've got a couple of things in my stack today to dental of into deeply. On this whole business education because it's. It's been a bugaboo of mine all week. I have I have done a lot of? Thinking I really think that we lost. This culture and and political battle. To the Teachers Teachers Unite Thank Education. I know the media is a major factor as well, but they're far more people. Kids human beings in mandatory classrooms. Starting in Grade School and Middle School and high school and college then watch the media every day I mean they had. The schools have become the education system the public. has become the propaganda -sation and and indoctrination. Center for American win two generations. This has Ghana's why we've lost. So much of our countries. Why have so many educated quote? Unquote people have no idea what the founding of this country as they. They've been taught that the country has villainous. Racist sexist bigoted homophobic. We don't deserve any of our power. We don't deserve any Any of the status as a superpower. And it I believe it's education where we've lost. I know it is. And it was you know we. We weren't on the field and we. We weren't on the field in Hollywood. Obviously pop culture, should we. All of these areas that we. ended up losing this battle for the mind and heart. Of the average American and the ability for the average American, have great pride and understanding of the country. And how it came to be how unique how special! How blessed it is! They have been taught. For Two generations figure forty years unless. They have been home schooled or gone to certain private schools. At the Democrats owned it. The American left is on and I'll tell you what it began began with a multiculturalism curriculum. That's where it began the tear down of the distinct and unique American culture that was the envy of the world that everybody in the world wanted to live in and be part of the multicultural curriculum is where to tear down. Of America began, and it continues to this day. Now There is because of all this. There is a potential bright side, ladies and gentlemen. If. The Democrats are going to keep the screws closed, and if they succeed in keeping, the schools closed because of the virus. Or what have you they are? Willingly Not taking advantage of the opportunity to continue. The indoctrination and the propaganda station of the of the of these kids are GonNa be taught somewhere. There will be an increase in home schooling so there is that. Possibility. But it's it's still you look if you're saying Russia. If you think education's caused this trouble, why are you so insistent that schools be opened? I hear you. I know it does appear to be a contradiction, and that is an illustration of how easy it has been. For the left to take over public education. And turn it into this wildly destructive. Institution, because every parent wants their kid to get the best education possible. And, that means getting up every day and going to the finest best school the parents. Can either afford or move into the neighborhood of or what have you? Even if what's taught in these classrooms? Is is tear down. Destructive doesn't matter. The lure of an education and the need for good one in order to. Give a person. The best shot at success in life is an overwhelming overpowering. Desire and motivation end. Something that responsible parents consider one of their primary responsibilities. Even if they know. That their kids are being indoctrinated and propagandize. They still want them there. So in in one sense, it might be good that schools don't open because it could give us an opportunity to stop. Temporarily for however long. The left's exclusive clutches. Over kids, but the president's out there demanding that the schools open. And for the sake of the economy for the sake of the divorce rate for the sake of sanity. Parents they need to open. And for the sake of the children not starving. The schools need opens fascinating thing to watch here as as it plays. I gotTa take a brief break here. Folks, but we're We're often running, so sit tight. Hang in. We will be right back. Right so sturdily said that the governor was going to send me some slides. This slides. What the hell are slide. If you would've told me it was a keynote presentation, I would have known exactly what it's charts and graphs. Involving Corona viruses and related circumstances so now I've got six charts and graphs that I got to learn and study here. While doing the program in the next hour to prepare for Governor to Santa's appearance here. Who Else was other host. Would anybody attempt us with? This normally would come in hours before the programs like learn study at I get it in the first break of the first hour, and now I've got to in addition to hosting the program and take your phone calls. I got to study six different keynotes slides here. On the details of whatever the virus school lunch! WHATEVER THE HELL! It is here in Palm. Beach County in the State of Florida. The. What else would I have on this? I don't know. Does this this? Effort to keep the schools closed is just. How how long is it GonNa? Take and maybe it's happened. How long is it going to take for the? American public. To realize. HOW DESTRUCTIVE THE DEMOCRAT PARTY IS! Not You know went up to say the American left. We don't have to say the radical Marxist. This is the Democrat. Party the Democrat. Party has become the home of all this radical leftism. The Democrat Party is trying to destroy the US economy the Democrat Party is trying to screw up the the school system. They don't want professional sports to open up and play. They're doing everything they hand to literally destroy. Any opportunity for economic. Stability and growth. In this country. and. Sit folks there so little pushback against I'm scared, I'm. Where is the opposition to this? Is there any any more or is everybody just streaming video? And tuning out. Trying to find the latest horror flick on. Netflix, which by the way is dark. If you're looking for the latest horror flick on Netflix. It's dark. That's the title of it dark three seasons supposedly. If you watch it, you'll never be able to have a night without nightmares again. That's the way to promoting it. Is everybody just watching netflixing. Do. It's only a matter of time and we'll find out David Harsanyi. At at National Review. has a piece. National Review Online destroy the public education system. That is his title. That's the. Objective, destroy. The public education system. He says it's largely left. Wing propaganda machine that funds Democrat politicians. It entrenches racial segregation. Public schools have been a catastrophe for the United States to certainly isn't an original assertion. But as we watch thousands of -Tarian BRATS, tearing down the legacies at George, Washington and Abraham Lincoln. It's more apparent than ever. State run schools undercut two fundamental conditions of a healthy Tolerance Society I. They created millions of civic illiterates. Who are disconnected from long held communal values and national identity and second. They have exacerbated the very inequalities that trigger the tearing apart. Of, our culture got more on this and we'll get to it when we get back. Welcome back. Let me repeat this this assertion from David Harsanyi and again the pieces at. National Review Online and the title the premises. The public education system. It's an advocacy piece for doing that. State run schools, I e the public. School system have, undercut. Two fundamental conditions of a healthy tolerant society I. They've created millions of civic illiterates. Who are disconnected from long held communal values in national identity Bingo. Civic illiterates means that they've not been taught the founding they've been not. They've not been taught the greatness of the founding fathers. They've not been taught a single thing. About the truth. Of the founding and the existence, the greatness the decency. Of the United States of America, they are illiterate on it yet. They think they've been told the truth. They have been taught that America's the home of racism that it was founded in slavery and racism and bigotry. That is the home of white supremacy, and that it must be torn down. That's what they've been taught. It's illiteracy. They've been taught it and now they're out there as they've grown up and become adults. Programmed almost like Stepford kids to act on it. Genuine mind numbed robots who think that they are supremely educated? So they've created millions of civic illiterates disconnected from long held community values and national identity and second. They have exacerbated the very inequalities that trigger the tearing apart. Of OF CULTURE They've exacerbated the very inequalities. Rather than be taught. So I said yesterday, you know what the greatest assault on slavery in the world has been. The United States Constitution. What do you mean rush? Who Constitution was written when there was slavery, constitution provided the roadmap for getting rid of it. Very Simple Stab as the premise. At the individual citizen. Has Primacy over. The government and everybody is equal. Everybody is equal the united. States as long as there was, slavery was not. Meeting its promise, the Constitution provided the route. To ending slavery at the same time. The opportunity to be true and in an and. Devoted to the constitution had the constitution not been written? Had it not? Did it not Stanford what it stands for their would not have been. A legal. Premise for ending slavery and legal premise for the civil war, and so forth and I realized this assertion is, is this going to enrage people? Who have been taught that the constitution enshrined slavery constitution enshrines white supremacy. Nothing could be further from the truth. And we're fifty years behind now two generations in having this message. Having this something be taught. If you are if you are interested in ferreting out systemic racism. Go to a big city public school system. No institution has fought harder to preserve segregated communities than the average teacher's Union, and I don't mean only in the schools. Systemic racism. That's what they want you to believe. The United States is. It was founded WHITT slavery systemic racism, systemic. Racism. Is found in any institution including a big city public school system where segregation is. Sought where it is achieved where it is maintained. And Segregation is the order of the day now. By orders of the radical left. Prosperous Americans already enjoy school choice. If you're doing okay financially you have access to school choice, not merely because prosperous Americans can afford private schools. Anybody who's ever tried to buy a suburban home in a major metro area can tell you how acutely school districts influence home prices. Many middle class and working class families are priced out of areas with good schools. Because of inflated home values and High Property taxes and you think that's an accident. It isn't. It's a way to keep certain people out. It's a way to further segregation. By making really attractive decent places on affordable. For the people you don't want. Living nearby and I'm telling you who's doing this. White liberals with their plantation mentality. Families who might otherwise choose to live in more diverse areas are kept out. Because of failing schools and a failing school, by the way is, is you can't. You can't change it a failing school. Is itself a weapon? A failing school is itself. Useful to the SEGREGATIONISTS. It provides the only option for many Americans are being artificially priced out of neighborhoods and schools. They would prefer to send their kids to. Even in cities where there is limited choice. Most poor parents. Who are typically Black Hispanic? Are compelled to send their kids to inferior schools, and if you're going to be compelled to send your kid to an inferior school, there better being inferior school around. They have to keep up these inferior schools. They have to prop them up. As to send people somewhere. If you'RE NOT GONNA. Let the move where they WANNA move. If you're not gonNa let them live or they wanna live if you're GonNa, let me go to the school they want to go to. You gotTa have some place for him to go. More than a decade ago, this Mr Harsanyi right here more than a decade ago, I sat a Denver Auditorium with a single Hispanic mother. who was quite literally praying that? Her kids number would be picked in a charter school lottery. The mother wept. As number was passed over not because she was partisan reactionary. She didn't care about politics. It was because she knew her son. Would now be forced to attend some par and unsafe highschool. Rather than, one specifically designed to help first generation kids assimilate. You know who loves charter schools. You know who love school choice. It's African Americans, and and other minorities and guess who opposes all of that. You Damn right their political party the Democratic Party the party, looking out for them, the party's going to protect them against all lease, evil white devils, practicing racial primacy, systemic racism and all this stuff. It's the Democrat Party that is denying. Upward Mobility Opportunity in everything including education. Are Sandy writes. It was a heartbreaking scene situation in Denver. and. It's only gotten worse. Colorado has since become a blue state. The Democrats killed or obstructed numerous school choice initiatives once supported by moderates in their party. In Denver school systems have helped solidify segregated communities and the achievement gap between white and minority students, one of the worst in the country under Democrat control segregation been maintained performance among poor minorities is getting worse because they are going to inferior schools which are being kept open on purpose. It is a cracked. This is where I believe that that we've losing the country and it's not final yet of course, but we've we've. This is where we've lost so much ground. is in the education. A lot of people nats the media. Rush Free had control media were convicted on the media's a crucial element of it, too I know, but but education largely. Dominates, I gotta take a break. And when we come back, we will start with the you on. The phones got full board up there so hang on patient right back. I. Tell you. Something folks they. Sure of the matter is here the embedded. The embedded nature of the left wing Democrat Party. In big school districts is now so normalized. That parents don't even say a word about it. When their kids are adversely affected by it when their kids come home and them. Hey, mom I didn't have to take the test today because way. Teacher gave us the answers to the test today. When the teachers are taking history class and turning into an anti Republican, our and anti-trump or anti George, W Bush our and in a history class. The students are given the answers to a history classes never taught the kids. Come home and tell the parents. The parents don't say a word about it because they're afraid. If they go to the school and complain, that is going to be taken out on her kids in bad grades, and so it just. It just happens. The, embedded liberal nature of big school districts is so normalized now people so expect that. Parents don't say a word about it. Look at it this way. A lot of people, a lot of parents can buy virtually anything from anywhere in the world because of worldwide economics. But they cannot. Use their own tax dollars to buy their kids. And education that they want an education that aligns with their values. It's a crap shoot. The one thing they ought to be able to buy with their tax dollars is the kind of education. Their kids get and they can't do it. And, they now have come to accept it. So they look for alternatives rather than reforming the public school system. They look for alternatives. Charter schools private schools taking out big time loans to afford all of that moving. Whatever? You see a recent study. Found, that sixty percent of Americans could not pass. The citizenship test. Sixty percent thugs can't. Do you know how easy the citizenship test is? It's one of the easiest testing never take. Sixty percent of people born in this country could not pass it. People. Sixty five or older scored best. Seventy four percent correctly answering at least six out of the ten quiz at ten questions in his test. Of those forty, five and younger, only night, teen percent passed. And the younger the test takers, the less likely they were to pass. Sixty percent of the people that took the basic citizenship test didn't know which countries their grandparents fought in world war, two. Only twenty four percent knew why American columnists had fought the British. I'm folks. It's scary. Okay here. We Go to Libya in Charleston. South Carolina great to have you on the EIB network hello. There s good to be here. I. I hope you're feeling better as well, I am a public school teacher, I teach science and I just recently started my masters program, and is you're talking about you know education, and how it's being embedded I'm currently in a diversity class and I just yesterday. Finish writing a paper. Whole, will you? Know you're saying things I need to ask questions about you recently started your Masters Program Teaching Science. And now you're embedded in a diversity class. What diversity why? What's that? so it's well. My degree is going to be an instructional coaching so desire to teach other teachers how to teach well. and I'm about finished with my program. Finish in December and this class, isn't it so you have to take this diversity class how to teach women, and then how to teach man, and then how to teach drunks and in how to teach people how to teach Hispanics to teach african-american. What what what what is is that what you mean? Well the diversity class is. It goes over white privilege I just finished my white privilege mark so client. So you learn about white brick, and are you guilty of it? Were you told that in this class? I was I. am every article and every textbook. I have read anti-american, American and Anti White. and I just finished writing a paper in which I was told to. Discuss How am I R-? I came to know my racial being And came to understand my race and you got to go through this in order to get your masters. Yes, there! However, how how did you come to understand your race? Well my understanding. I'm Christian and I understand that God created from one man, and there is no, and you know it's a social construct and You know I'm not GonNa Apologize For how God made me and I am not going to expect my students to apologize for how God made them. They had no control over that and to suggest that I should be guilty of what my ancestors have done. That's I mean. I had no choice in the. I've got a story in the stack. The black lives matter Readership person somebody in the in the upper echelon. Says that The white race is gotta find you don't WanNa. WanNa have to? Paraphrase the white races. That is defective because there's not enough melanin. Yeah, here. It is white. Black lives matter leader. Yusra CA golly. White people are genetic defects because a lack of Melanin. Well and that's why with this professor, with this paper, I actually wrote because I'm a science teacher, and so I-, exploiting what does scientists say about it? And I went through went through publication after publication. About how you know, scientists has proven that there is no There's not a significant genetic difference to say that they are all of these different races and You know I went through and I pulled an all the Melanin Science. I still isn't but but you. You're not gonNA get your masters if you're running around saying that. Well No, however I, you know I feel like there are I mean as a public schoolteacher. I know that we are out there. We want to teach our children truth and we want to teach them to be American citizens, and the love, their countries where a small number and so I. You know. I decided that this was going to be something. I was GONNA confidently stand up against her. I was not going to apologize for being white I was not gonNA apologize for being born with two parents, and because I don't expect that at my. Everybody is it's just some some people don't know them but everybody's born with Peres. Even one of them was a test tube i. mean everybody has to parents you have to. You have to acknowledge that in this stupid class. This is incredible. Anyway Look see gets a melon injections out there. That lasts just long enough. To, convince people running university class that you're taking all seriousness. Back about the wrap up our first busy broadcast, our folks I'm just telling you if we had been able to maintain any kind of order. Over the public school system the last forty to fifty years we wouldn't have pushed out all of these blithering idiots who now have jobs as journalists and they don't know history. They don't know what they're talking about. They're pushing the hate America hate. Trump agenda it all starts with the schools every single bit of this. Starts with the schools and we haven't been. Players in the last thirty five forty years at. We're paying the price for this. So I'm looking at Fox News or the headline, trump threatens to cut funds if the schools don't open in the fall. And then going to Biden Biden says well. We can't do that. We got to Hilo Joe. Biden's literally worthless. When it comes to policy when it when it comes to reasonable contributions to anything. But he's the opponent out there, so they have to provide the. The The contrast, anyway greetings and welcome back great to have you with us on the excellence in broadcasting network that telephone number. If you WANNA be part of the program, eight, hundred, two, eight, two, two, eight, eight, two here. Is Robert Redfield the? Director of the Centers for Disease Control. and. Corona Virus Force Hill. Press compensated scarf queen was there and and duct a fallacy. My by the way. You heard what Dr found she said. Dr Chee. Says that the. War Corona virus death rate is a false narrative. Y., Dot Com. Team. In an interview with the Alabama Democrat Senator Doug Jones running for re-election. said that it is a false narrative to take comfort in a lower rate of death. What is false about pointing out that the corona virus death rate is down to where it was back in early March. How is that a false narrative? Fallacy downplaying it. said that taking comfort in news of declining corona virus death rates is a false narrative encouraging complacency. He downplayed the apparent low death rate of the. Pandemic and a press conference with Democrat. Alabama Senator Doug Jones. On Tuesday, Jones up for reelection FAO. She is in there, doing his best to. Help Him Falconry characterize taking comfort in news about declining mortality as an empty comfort, claiming it's a false narrative to take comfort lower rated. I literally do not understand this. False narrative? The death rate is back door. It wasn't March. It is. The as the number of cases. Climb the number of reported cases climbed. The death. Rate is not climbing. It means more and more people are getting this disease retesting him finding out people who become infected but the death rate. He's going down. How is that a false narrative? Well because it. Permits complacent complacency. Yay that what? What does that mean? Well? It means that people are not going to take it seriously anymore. If you can get the disease and on die, we're GONNA. Why isn't any of this good news? Why isn't any of this positive now? Why isn't any of this? I give the answer. The answer answers politics. We can't have any good news. We can't have any good news between now and November. No matter what it is, we cannot have it. No good news permitted. You see Little Brian Stelter is doing. You won't be He. He got his copy of Mary Trump's book. And he's actually taking pictures of pages that he thinks have really damaging stuff and tweeting them. Kid, you, not. Little Brian He tweeted a page where trump sister Marianne. He'll never win the presidency. He's a clown. So little, Brian took a picture of that page. And that was the biggest insult on the page that trump's own sister says he's a clown. You'll never get elected. and. He tweets it out. And then somebody read little Brian's tweet some guy in Tim Carney. Who said trump is never going to recover from this? Trump is I. don't know if he meant. The, specific insult from trump sister Marianne. He's a clown or whether it's the book. In its entirety, but the idea that trump has never recover from it. I don't think it's going to have anywhere near the splash. The fact that little Brian's having to take pictures of where is this massive demand? Remember? We were told yesterday to move the publication because of massive public demand, and here's little Brian and by the way Simon and Schuster. Are you happy with CNN? Taken pictures of pages and tweeting them out. Who owns the copyright to this book? Last time this was permissible. But. He's legacy snapping pictures of pages where he thinks there are big time insults. and. tweeting them out. Thomas loopy Friedman. Await white the redfield. Let me give for forget this redfield. The coronavirus task force met today, and how he was there in the scarf, Queen. And of course, the subject opening the rules. Came Up. And here's a portion Dr, Redfield who runs the CDC and his remarks WanNa make it very clear that what is not the intent. CDC's guidelines is to be used as a rationale to keep schools closed. We're prepared to work with each school. Each jurisdiction to help them use the different strategies that we propose that helped do safely, so they come up with the optimal strategy for those schools. I think it's. And, it would be personally very disappointing to me and I know my agency if we saw that individuals were using these guidelines as a rationale for not reopening our schools so redfield here tempting to say that At the CDC are GonNa work with the schools on reopening? Apparently the CDC. Put out some new guidelines on. How to behave properly in the midst of the virus, and some people said well. It sounds that sounds like you're. You're advocating school. Stay shut down. So, Redfield goes under no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no monitoring very clear, and that's not the intent of our guidelines. You realize how the intent doesn't matter if he gave them the data that they want. That allows them to see the CDC says. Don't open the schools. then. That's what they're gonNA. Do and he can go out and see why A and said No. No, no, we didn't intend to do that. When in fact he may have. Now Thomas, loopy Friedman, columnists New York, times. Biden should not debate trump unless. To circumstances are met. Now. Keep in mind who Friedman is. He's the foreign affairs columnist for the New York, times. He's China's best friend in the media. It is Thomas Freedman. Who is often envied the way the Chinese get things done. And said the united. States need to come up with a same governing rationale that they have in China. Eleven to twelve, really smart people who make decisions on everything. Eleven to twelve, really elite bright people know Congress no Senate, no way to bottle things up. Just get the best and brightest eleven twelve people you can and go to town on infrastructure and go to town on scrolls go to town on on city expansion of whatever it is, and he has suggested this is what the United States needs. To move forward. He is an apologist for the Tchaykovsky is a cheerleader for the tricalm's and guess who he is in bed with on the. Joe Biden. Joe. Biden is the Chinese best friend. and His kid Biden's Kid Biden Defense China. He promotes China and particularly now when trump is trying to do, trade deals with China, and even out that. Disparity Biden's out singing. The praises of China went win whatever he's saying. He's making any kind of sense. But. About these two circumstances that have to be met. WHAT THIS COLUMN! Biden should not debate trump unless. Gives away the Game Ladies and gentlemen. The game is to hide Biden's disqualifying dementia. They can't allow that. To be on display. Stop and think of this. You know we've joked about it and it's It's it's. It's omnipresent something. It's out there Joe Biden. He's a season citizen. He is experiencing. A loss of mental acuity. And it's not unique to him. And whoever is? Behind his candidacy is willing to risk. A mental meltdown in public, and they are the people pushing. Biden obviously have no compassion for the guy. He is simply a vessel. And the thing I've said this before I'm GonNa. Say it again. What really concerns me? About the Biden candidacy is that whoever and everything's? It's going to be vice president, but I don't. Who Ever Is really running. Biden is who really wants to be president, but doesn't want half to campaign for. It doesn't want to have to run on. A ballot does not WANNA HAVE TO RAISE MONEY? Because everybody knows that Joe Biden is not going to be coherent and cognizant. To be a daily Chief Executive. Somebody is going to be running the show. Behind the scenes, we may see them. When they're gathered for group photos in the Oval Office. I mean he'll do the ceremonial stuff biden will. But, there's somebody it's either an individual owners group of people that are actually behind this. Who Don't want to run who maybe think they couldn't win? So. They're pushing Biden now. Everybody thinks. That who he picks as vice president is actually. Going to be president, because the one of the theories is as soon as Biden wins, he'll resign. And that immediately turned it over to the vice, president. That's wipe the latest name and that Hat Susan. Rice, come on gets Susan Rice as Biden's VP. Too much baggage there. Now it's it's like Kamala Harris will be some some. Could be. Conventional, wisdom has to be an African American woman, but I don't think. That that is actually the I. Think the vice president is going to be the power. Running the country I think. And I'm not trying to create this gigantic conspiratorial mystery, but every president has a kitchen cabinet. Every president has a close cadre. Of Advisors Supporters Financiers Reagan had them every every candidate does and Biden does to. We just don't know who they all are. We could probably make an educated guess. If Biden wins the presidency and we start seeing the. Photo ops at take place, but this is what I fear is really going on at somebody. That's going to be running the WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA have somebody running the country. WHO's not been elected? Has Not even run has not even raise. Money has not even appeared on a ballot now. Some might say we've with rush. You think every president has actually been running the shelf non maybe not. Maybe this has already happened. Maybe had been powers behind the scenes. That actually running things, but I don't think ever to the degree this will be. The case at any rate, the Democrats have to hide. The disqualifying dementia. CanNot allow. Biden, to come out of his basement in Delaware. And appear on a stage with trump. In any kind of a debate, they can't risk that. So what they have to do instead is provide. Excuses. They have to somehow provide cover for Biden. So! Mr Friedmann. Here says I worry about Joe Biden. DEBATING DONALD TRUMP. Yeah I would be worried, too. He should do it. Only under two conditions otherwise, he's giving trump unfair advantages. Why is trump getting an unfair advantage? The Democrats have nominated Biden Biden's nominee. He has withstood the rigors of the campaign. He has faced down all of the other Democrat opponents and sent them away scampering away pain. Why does trump have an unfair advantage? It's because of Biden's dementia. And they have to cover up so here. Biden should I declare that he will take part in a debate only if Trump releases his tax returns. For Two Thousand Sixteen two thousand eighteen. Biden's already done, so they're on his website. Trump must to know more gifting trump's something. He can attack while hiding his own questionable finances in second. Biden should insist. That this is the real. This is the real demand that ensures these debates will not happen. Are you ready? Liz? Thomas Friedman says that Biden should insist that a real time fact, checking team approved by both candidates be hired by the Commission on debates. And the ten minutes. Before the scheduled conclusion of the debate, the fact, check team report on any misleading statements, phony numbers or outright lies that either candidate had uttered. That way. No one in that massive television audience can go away easily misled. So let's picture this. We have Biden of. They're debating not knowing where he is. We got trump. They're salivating can't wait to send Biden packing. The fact checking team somewhere offstage. The debate goes on for an hour, and a half an hour and twenty minutes into everything comes to screeching halt and affection team comes out on stage. And the fact check team reports. On all the lies that trump told in all the mistakes at trump made in all a phony figures at trump made. And then that fact fact team ignores. The absolute dementia. Craziness and incoherence of Joe Biden. I'll guarantee you this if this thing ever happened. That fact check team would come up with ten times the mistakes. Imputed to trump as to buy, that is never going to happen, and Friedman knows it, and so if Biden would insist on that. Then they can put trump on the defense as well. It's trump, afraid of and then they go ahead and cancel the debates. which is what their objective is anyway because a debate with Biden onstage. Is All would take to secure his defeat. We'll be back. Home. Stay Chicago Blackhawks of the National Hockey League announced. They're not going to change their name. They're not going to change the name and they're not going to get rid of the mascot. Announcer going to keep the team nickname despite demands to change it, because critics charge that it reinforces native American Indians serotypes stereotypes. The they're known as the hawks locally. In Chicago, they were named after their first owner Frederic McLaughlin, after the famous Blackhawk Regiment of world, War One which he was a commander. Native, American chieftain of the Sauk, nation Blackhawk played a prominent role early history of Illinois, so McLaughlin adopted the Indian head as the team's insignia strength power honor. So they're coming around, and you'd better change your name and he's screw you. The blackhawks are not changing, and the braves are saying in Atlanta screw. You were not getting rid of Tomahawk Chop. Going after Daniel, Snyder owner the redskins because. Snyder's Republican donates to Republican causes I don't know how Republican the actually is. Brayden somewhere in South Dakota welcomed EIB. Network hello. All right. Thank you so much for taking my call. It's an honor to be on your show her. Something on my bucket list so I'm pretty excited. I just wanted to say I really appreciate what the last caller had to share and we are in the same boat. I could say the exact same call. I'm forty two I teach. High School Spanish longtime conservative things to you by the way. And Christian trump supporter here. But she's one hundred percent right I had to go back to school K. I was working in the banking and marketing, and I moved into education. And you would. You were spot on. You'd be horrified with what's happening in the public education system. I substitute taught for four years and every morning for several teachers classes. They wanted me to turn on CNN for fifteen minutes for the students to watch and of course you can imagine how hard that was What class was that? It, was I right classes math history homeroom? They would start didn't matter. What classroom CNN on for fifteen minutes. Yeah yes, exactly and I had the same experiences your last caller. I had to take a human human something classic diversity class. Pursue your masters because you have to have one of those. Right right? Yeah, and it was, it was horrifying, and of course, the poor eighteen year old nineteen year old students respect the teacher just eight I. Appreciate Your Call. I really do and thank you so much. Governor Santa's is scheduled next hour, so hang on. Greetings welcome back, rush, Limbaugh, the EIB network and we are happy to welcome back to the program. The Governor of Florida Ron Santa's thank you for making some time for us and I saw yesterday that you were pushing to see the schools open I said I had to talk to you. Find out what you're facing here and then once I got you here. They have a number of questions about the status of the virus throughout your state how you're dealing with it. How are you holding up during all this? Oh, we're doing good Russia. I mean well first of all I I hear. You're doing better. which were really thrilled to hear and look forward to you make in a recovery getting you back out on the golf course soon I have not been able to play. Obviously do much since February. We've been in this and not just in this, but obviously wanting to put people back to work We had our state budget all. All that I veto to a Florida record, one billion dollars from the state budget and you know these are things we have to do, so. We're working hard on this, but you know we. We've got a lot of great folks. Throughout the state, phenomenal doctors and You know so we're We're hanging in there. Well the the the news every day the media every day. We are being inundated. We're being pummeled. With Record. Number of new cases reported every day setting records in your state in Florida Texas. Arizona and as I look at it. It it appears efforts being made to associate number of cases with either instant death or ultimate death that this number that they're reporting is going to lead to that same number dying and I looked at the death rate. The death rate is actually coming way way down as the number of cases, and this is true in Florida as well as the number of cases rise. The death rate is down Dr. Faucher Day said. It's a false premise and i. don't understand what he means by that. Why in the world is that not good news? Obviously I mean I think I think it is good news part of the reason we have a lower fatality rate in Florida is because we've really focused on protecting those people who are most vulnerable to the virus, such as our senior citizens living in long term care facilities. We barred hospitals from sending the sick corona virus patients back into nursing homes because we knew what leads to Fred and more deaths amongst the most vulnerable population. Population and you can compare us to states that did the opposite where they force them back in. You know the the numbers speak for themselves, but we've also done since March and April is. We've established twelve covert only nursing facilities around the state so that if someone test positive in a nursing home and they can't be isolated properly. We have a place where they could be transferred, and and be safe and not put. Put the other residents at risk, so we've done a lot of things like that to to lower the burden on the most vulnerable but you know you also look at things like we are testing way more than what we were testing in March and April and it's definitely true. California, Arizona Florida. Georgia! We have seen more spread over the past three weeks. I mean that that is true, but we're also testing anyone. Anyone that walks in the door, March and April around the country to get a test. You had to be symptomatic and initially you had to be sixty five and older and a lot of these drive-thru test sites. Well now people can come in their twenties, and they don't have to have symptoms your test and you know some of them. Test Positive the number one age right now in Florida. That has the most cases. Is H twenty one which that would not have been the case in March and April because a lot of those twenty one year, olds would have even qualified for test, so what we're dealing with now is different than the northeast and March and April. And if you look at Texas, you look at Florida you look at some of those states. We had what we thought. Everyone said we wanted was a flatter curve. You know we flattened it out in March and April, and now obviously you still have infections that you deal with, but really good shape to. To be able to deal with it, I mean you're the nursing home situation you know we've got all those those twelve facilities we do have every hospital contest. Anyone who comes in now so they're able to prevent it from spreading you know in the hospital. We have therapeutics available now, and it's just down the line I. think that's contributing to these better outcomes, but yeah I think the outcomes are really what matters look rush. If I could just snap my fingers and get rid of the virus I would do, but that's not how these viruses work. And the curve was never that you wouldn't have any more infections. It was that you would spread them out over a longer period of time, so if I have my druthers I'd obviously routed those infections go to people who are healthy, and can fight it off rather than the most vulnerable, and if you're able to do that and shield the most vulnerable, you will have a lower fatality rate in our case. Fatality rate is like four to five times lower than some of the higher death states. You know that we had in the northeast. I've I've looked at the numbers. The Florida is practically in the middle of all fifty states in terms of the death rate per million number of cases still today. New Jersey and new. York and Connecticut are leading in deaths per million. And yet they're not in the news anymore. They being reported as having solved the problem. They're on the downhill swing. Everything's looking good governor. Cuomo is brilliant Blah Blah Blah meanwhile focusing on you. They're focusing on Texas. I saw story yesterday A. Guy From the Hoover Institute Scott. Atlas who's been really studying the data and he found that in Texas. that the ICU units in Texas hospitals are pretty much full, which by the way is how hospitals make money? But secondly only fifteen percent of the ICU beds were covid nineteen patients, the other eighty five percent were filled by people who now are free to come in for elective surgeries or cancer screenings when they weren't a month or two ago, wants to send only that rush here. You're exactly right, but it's even more than that. In March and April, because of the amount of fear and hysteria that was out, there had a huge drop in people coming for things like. Like heart, attacks and stroke and so, what's happened is people put off care because they thought that they may get corona virus in the hospital, or they thought that all the hospitals were overflowing with corona patients, and they just didn't want to go in because of that so now you have people that are going back and showing up to get the care they need now. Unfortunately, some of those folks who deferred care their conditions or more cute now but we would rather have them. Go and get the care they need, and what the? What they? They. Don't tell you when they run these things. Is You know in Florida right now? We've got about six thousand ICU bed statewide. We've got about a thousand available but they usually run much higher than that. They usually run ninety five ninety eight percent. That's how hospitals work, you know we've had between six fifteen and twenty percent available for the past like five or six weeks That's a lot of space for how he's. Hospitals are supposed to operate, and not only that they have the capacity to to double their ICU capacity. You know if need be and one. One of the things that the media is doing in Florida as they were going around saying there's all these counties that have no ICU capacity was actually a grain of truth. Rush because we have a lot of rural counties that don't have ICU's at all, so somebody needs that type of care. They go to one of the bigger medical systems in the state, and so a lot of this is being put out I think scare people. It's not productive and look I if they're using it for political reasons, because they don't like Republican governors whatever we men but I. Know I know but here's the thing that bothers me. Is that people do get frightened when they see some of this stuff and it does it does deter some people potentially from going into seek care, and that's A. That's a bad consequence to have happened. We are talking to the governor Florida Rhonda. Santa's I. Want to go back to the the number cases you. You mentioned that testing, and widely. Expanded testing is one of the reasons why so many new cases are being reported. Is there any other reason for it? What else has happened besides expanded testing? So we have so? It's expanded testing numbers. Looser criteria really no criteria to get test, so we get more as symptomatic and you have had as I mentioned you know in the last three to four weeks. You've seen an increase in the percent of people testing positive. So that's you know there is spreading throughout the sun belt I think is is a good. You do look at that so today we were fourteen percent. You know throughout all of May and the beginning of June we typically four percent positively. So that is something that that we're concerned about now I. think a lot of that is being driven by some of these younger demographics who were spreading it more readily but but that is definitely a factor, but if If we were to test only symptomatic people, which is typically how testing works I? Mean normally. If you're just going about your business, you don't go and get test for the reason you know. The numbers would be very very much lower in terms of raw case, count so some of this stuff that the cases it if they focus on testing focuses on criteria and all this other stuff but we do have a higher positive I think you're seeing that. Texas Arizona Southern California a little bit in Georgia now, so there's something going on the Sunbelt for sure, but you know our folks are in their handling it in. We're going to be able to get through it. Do, you have a couple more minutes I got a break here and if you gotta go I understand if you're gonNA. Come to love to have you. Absolutely rock. Happy to Governor Santa's. We'll be back and continue right after this. Ever back happy to have with us the governor of Florida Rhonda Santa's. Who is discussing with us? The latest happening with the corona visits in the economy in the State of Florida let me ask you about the schools and opening up This is what I heard yesterday. That made me really WANNA. Talk to you that you were insisting that the that the schools open for in person education this fall. Is that still your intention? No? Absolutely rush look. We went through a period of our country was shut down where Home Depot was considered an essential service where Walmart was considered as anybody. Is Anybody really trying to pressure you into shutting down again? Who and if so who? I don't I. Don't think so I. Think people realize okay. The whole thing with that was about hospital capacity. We've got it, you know we know we need to do and basically a lot of of what needs to be done. It's just kind of the basic social interactions and people take precautions, not really and I think that that I think people realize that you know. We've got to have a functioning society, but you know with respect to. To the schools Walmart Essential Service Home Depot Central Service Fast Food Essential Service. How is it that the schools for kids would not be considered an essential service and I think it's vital. I think that they've fallen way behind and I. think that the date on this is very clear. How are the kids GonNa? Eat if the schools aren't open because we learned in one, thousand, nine, hundred, five that parents don't know how to feed the kids. Well you have. It's funny, though you have people who would normally say, schools are vital. Some of them are now saying. Don't don't open Our view is in Florida is we need to have in person instruction now? If parents aren't comfortable, you know we were providing virtual. Opt Out, but just think of all the different things in terms of obviously education, but in terms of socializing in terms of activities I. Mean you know I want our high school athletes to be able to play football and do all these other things. It's very very important, and I think that the data's clear CDC's been very clear on this under eighteen, your cancer being hospitalized by Corona viruses far far less. Influenza an for far less, and if you have no underlying condition, it probably is as close to zero as you can get, and so you know at some point I think we have to recognize that science and rush and other things. All the European countries have come to this conclusion that the kids aren't vectors of transmission. That was the fear in March was. It's just like the. The flu where they would, they would pass it onto the adults, and that would create community spread well everyone that's looked at and all these European countries say the kids for whatever reason are not even vectors of transmission for krone of so we have to look at the facts, the data the science, and then we need to be governed by that rather than politics or emotion. I'll tell you what makes the most sense to me especially now after months and months of data and research and being able to watch, this thing happened all over the world. It seems to me. that. The people that are most vulnerable and we know who they are. They're elderly. They have a pre existing condition. They've got their lungs. Are, we can use your shield them. You protect you. Quarantine them. You keep them and you make sure you reach them, and you keep them out of harm's way, but the young people you were just talking about. Let them live their lives. Get them out there. Let them live their lives. We're we're seeing here. From the massive infection rate that the numbers of people actually showing symptoms is not equal to the number of people being reported as having cases, but at some point life has to go on. You can't be you can't. You cannot be afraid of life? We've learned enough. We've never shut down. Schools for flow and flu has killed a lot more people so far than the virus has now. This virus hasn't been around as long as flu. Obviously, but we're doing a lot of things we have never done before. That are harming us. Here and you. You may not be able to say this, but I can. There is a political element here and it's called Damage Donald Trump, and that's why that you are so courageous in bucking that without saying so, but you're doing everything you can to keep the state up and running as normal as can be economically socially every which way possible. You're doing a bang-up job. I think and I just wanted to tell you that. Thanks rushing you know you made the point about we know who the vulnerable are you know with the Spanish flu of nineteen eighteen that people like to compare this to the Spanish flu. It would kill healthy soldiers, World War, one soldiers. It would kill kids at a very high rates, and so it had a more pervasive impact in more indiscriminate impact. Well here we're in a situation. Situation where we know the data is so clear about who is the the at risk population who is very low risk, and so you're exactly right. Society needs to function, and you know that used to be the standard view amongst people who are considered public health experts you want society to function shutting down is not gonNA. Help things it creates all kinds of other problems. Problems and we gotTa Keep Society going, and then you obviously could take appropriate precautions within the context of the economy being running schools all that, so it's vital that we do it and I. think that that's going to be where we're. Most parents are going to end up. Because once they're presented with the data and they understand back in March. Look a lot of people didn't know. Know it was kind of a new thing and think we've seen a track record on this. That you know folks should be comfortable now. My kids are in school age yet. I got a three year old daughter, two year, old son, and a newborn daughter and I can tell you if they were school age, I would have zero concern sending down that sexy. That's powerful that that will have influence over be look I have one minute. And this is unfair, but but your professional I want to ask you. As governor. What's what's the one thing that that scares you? But what was the one that gives you? Pause during all this? The one thing that's out of your control at you really worried about most. I just think it's confidence you know. We I want all of our people to have confidence to understand that you know we're going to be able to get through this. We're going to be able to to do well and that it may be something that's part of our lives, but it's not something that should consume our lives, and so having that broad-based confidence. I think we do. We've gotten a lot. Lot of it in the last couple of months, obviously now with with with the cases being so there I think some people are back on edge, but have confidence in in us as a community and a state to be able to plow ahead, you know, put people back to work. Educate the kids and also do our best to protect those most vulnerable among us who are very susceptible to this virus. You're you know you're right? Everybody can use a little additional dose of confidence that goes a long way governor. Thank you very much I'm glad you carves a time out for us today. It's always a pleasure to talk. I haven't played golf since. Late February march, not since late February so maybe they're thinking. Calm down enough that we can coordinate a trip to some golf course somewhere. Yeah, you get better. Let me know when you're ready. Hopefully we'll have the corona going in a good direction and then It'd be a great comeback for me I can tell you that you're a great guy. Rush. We really are blessed. I'm beach at the Southern Command. We're proud as Floridians. Thank you, sir, governor around Santa Florida and we must take brief obscene profit break. We'll be right back. Home. Hey before I forget it. I want out some congratulations in my new buddies Charlemagne God. Charlemagne God just got a TV deal at comedy central starting sometime this fall thirty minute show. I don't know what it means for his position at the breakfast club, but way to go Charlemagne God moving onto TV. Bunny. Adulation we'll be back. Right the first thing I want to say this. The people on hold on the phones I So deeply appreciate you staying there and I'm GonNa get to you quickly here in this hour. I know you're on hold for a long time. And then the Santa's interview came along and then at the half hour to it so i. Really, really appreciate you. Hanging on got a bunch of people that have some really fascinating things. They want to say, so we'll get to them. As as quickly as we can rush limbaugh an IB network I'm your real anchorman. Throughout America today I'm meeting and surpassing all audience expectations everyday and I do it. My friends would have my brain tied behind my back. Be Fair about things and I'm able to do that because I have talent on loan from God. The phone number's eight, hundred, two, eight, two, two, eight, eight two, and if you WANNA send an email elrushbo at. EIBNET DOT US. There is an African American Democrat. In Georgia named Vernon Jones. He's a state representative. And he published a a column. Yesterday at the daily caller. And it is such a brave peace. And it's ironic because this piece and I'm Gonna I'M GONNA. Share a pull quotes. This Guy Vernon Johns. Is Stronger and more articulate. than any Republican supporting trump, I can recall. In four years. Now the headline of his pieces I'm black and I'm a Democrat but I ain't voting for Joe Biden this November. Since that day in May when I announced, I would support trump for president. My motives have been questioned. My integrity assailed and even my intelligence challenged. That's okay. I'm a lifelong Democrat, but I'm also a black man. The son of a World War Two vet and a proud American. In recent weeks. There have been absurd calls to de-fund and disband police departments across the country by Democrats. In response to the unjust murder of George Floyd. These are extreme calls that will only lead to more pain and suffering and our most vulnerable communities in folks. I have something coming up later in the program. Do you realize how infrequently blacks are pulled exclusively as a group? They're just lumped in with the Democrats. It is assumed that ninety three to ninety five percent of blacks agreed with whatever the Democrats say. And so. For for example, we have been led to believe. That ninety percent of African Americans believe. that. They're going to be shocked by the COPS. For, doing nothing. And it turns out. That isn't true. That's not what ninety five percent of blacks think. There's actually been a poll taken actually couple of them of only black people and it is stunning. How much? They respect the police. It is surprising based on the conventional wisdom in the media every day. How They want more police protection. It goes against everything you think you know. About African Americans. I can't tell you. The number of white liberals I know, and they'll get in life. You don't know what it's like to be black you. I mean go talk to any of 'em. They will tell you they don't expect. Live to their eighteenth birthday. They believe that the cops are going to shoot them for bad tail light. They think well. We've all heard that we've all. Kind of had no, but then to swallow it and believe it. But it turns out that in this polling data. Exclusively exclusively of blacks that that just it just isn't true. I'll get to that as The hour goes by. And before the programs back to back to Vernon Jones here his. Assertion. Against getting rid of the police is what reminded me of it. Unlike other Washington politicians. Donald Trump actually backed up his words and promises with actions. He signed an executive order on police reform. Taking steps to build a better bridge between law, enforcement, men and women and their communities. The landmark executive order encourages police to implement best practices to protect the people they serve. It sets the highest professional standards for law enforcement officers while promoting peace. And equality for all Americans. Under the order, the trump administration will now prioritize federal agents from the Department of Justice. To police departments that meet these standards. Additionally, the order pushes forward the creation of a national database. Of police misconduct, the database will root out bad cops and help create accountability between. Police agencies now we're word, Joe Biden and the previous administration for eight years in the White House on this issue. I'll tell you they were absent. They were absent in unifying the country, and that folks is the number one successful criticism of Joe Biden for whatever he claims. That he's GonNa, do the rejoinder is well? Why didn't it happen? When you and Obama were in office for eight years. Why weren't bad cops dealt with? If African Americans think the cops are killing them. Why didn't you do something that you took over with? These consent decrees all of these local police departments. Why didn't they get better? This is the one I think the one question. On, whatever the issue is! That can just nail- Biden, auto China, I don't care whether it's the cops i. don't care what whatever it is. Why didn't you deal with this when you were in office for eight years? So if you want to say, why didn't you want Obama deal with it, but Obama's not on the ballot Biden is. It's very simple. It's very simple thing to do. You can sit here and you can whine and Moan. You complain about trump and do this and that. Where were you for those eight years? Why didn't you? Get economic growth up to where trump had it. Why weren't you able do it? Why did you think the country should adopt an attitude that we're in a new permanent decline? Why did you believe America's best days were behind us? I think Biden's a sitting duck. And if trump continues with this. Campaign agenda that was that was popularized by the two speeches over the weekend at now now, the limbaugh and in Washington Mall. On the preservation, the American way of life standing up for the American founding I think it's a slam dunk well. Slam Dunk, nothing slam dunk, but I don't I don't think. I only because insurmountable I. Don't think these polls today show trump losing by big numbers are accurate. It's too premature. We don't know. Enough about what's going to happen between now and Election Day. You know you want a really decent question is. Will there be an election in November. Now wait. If nothing changes with this virus. CAN YOU IMAGINE! The fear mongering. That is going to take place. In the media and Democrat Party going to scare the hell out of people over leaving home and going votes, so here's GonNa come. mail-in ballots and Digital ballots and all this other kind of stuff. I know it's hard to imagine that there won't be an election. But I guarantee if the Democrats think that they're GONNA lose it. They will try any which way they can to make that eventuality. Come true and make it look like it's trump's idea. Because! They're all ready out there. Saying trump won't leave when he loses. Already getting that up anyway, this piece Vernon Johns. In Georgia will link to it. At at rush, Limbaugh DOT COM, one more pull quote even before that. Where was Biden for thirty six years in the US Senate on this issue, I'll tell you. He was too busy shouting. My children are GonNa grow up learning jungle. Jungle Jungle. that. Racial Jungle Biden was referring to include black and Brown Americans like me right now. President trump is being defined as a racist by the media. When in reality Joe Biden is. Full blooded bigot and don't take my word for word. Take, then Senator Joe Biden's own words for it quote. The truth is every major crime bill since nineteen seventy. This congress. Every minor crime bill has had the name of the Democrat senator from the state of Delaware on it Joe Biden. Now that Biden's running for president in a woke Democrat Party twenty twenty. He's attempting to sweep his racist legacy under the rug. We can't let him. Exactly Right the Democrats are trying to sweep that racist legacy under the RUB. Because, he somehow got the nomination. Okay. Phones got to get started sandy pleasant. Valley New York welcome great to have you and I really appreciate you waiting. Rush it's such an honor to be speaking with you. when Kobe I started in homeschooling was evidence I decided that my seven year old son. Cole was going to learn some real history, so I ordered your rush. Revere Series Ha. We recently went to my sister's home to celebrate the fourth of July and my eight year old niece asked what Independence Day is all about, and that's when my little seven year old proceeded to educate her her fifteen year, old sister, and the rest of the family on how the Patriots fought for our independence back in seventeen, seventy six, and how we wouldn't even be here in this country, if it wasn't for William Bradford, and Myles, standish and Paul Revere and their bravery, he told her she wanted to have her house, and that we would be ruled by kings. And, it just made me so proud and so thankful to you for writing such an amazing book series. And helping us to set light on. How blessed we are to be in this country? You have made my day I can't. I can't adequately express my gratitude for that. That is just. Ivy, that's great. Your seven year old son is able to educate the family on independence day founding of country. Because who bought the rush? Revere Books Series. My heart and I knew it would yours. Oh it. Does. It does and I I have to tell you the the rush revere books. Are, a collaborative effort. We have a lot of people working on the manuscript. And then the graphics the fact checking, and then we had the writing these books for a specific. age group of Young Age Group and so we had to. We have the right for their level of of understanding, and we had to make sure that everything we asserted was true. We had to be able to withstand every assault that we thought would come. And it took a lot of effort and I'll tell you. My wife Catherine ran the operation that resulted in those books, and it was a it was a genuine labor of love for her, and for everybody else that was involved. Well, we get feedback like like yours it just it. It makes it all. So worth it because it was well, our little attempted to battle the garbage. That's in the public education system. Yes? They are brilliant, and that is like parents need to step up in take the reins, and they need to educate their children, because if it's not happening in schools then you have to do it in your home. And you. Exact and you don't have to teach them. You know you have to learn everything. Teach them math and science, but the founding of the country is something. That every child deserves to know. The founding the people behind it what it took. Why it is so unique. What is unique about the United States? These things are not taught. Now, you've got Ilhan. Marquee Fox News Ilhan Omar is suggesting we need to tear everything down. And reassigned profits because prophets today are not going to the right people. This country only saved her bacon. And so now she and her squad members like Ao C. and the rest of them who don't know diddley squat other than the hatred. They've been taught. Are Now running around saying America needs to be torn apart and rebuild America's a false promise. America's a false premise. America's this or that. The anger and the hate. That is. Responsible for the. Policies of the left today needs to be called out. Look Sandy. Thank you again very much appreciated fact, Sandy, hang on, get it Mr Survey address because we've got. We've got the We have a whole package of stuff that we send out from the revere crew. And her her kids would love to get the stuff liberty and all that kind of stuff here, so don't don't hang up here. Is Adrian Columbia South Carolina? You're next great to have you, hello. Rush. Mega prayers negative does first time caller I have four rush babies. You've seen so concerned in your opening monologue about children starving if we don't go back to school and I wanted to let you know that the kids aren't starting in our district, we have been the cafeteria. Workers have been packaging, breakfast and lunch every day. Monday through Friday and the kids don't even have to come. Pick them up. We take them to their neighborhood. A minute now in Florida. I learned today that the parents have to go pick up the food. Are you telling me in Columbia South Carolina you? The school district is delivering breakfast and lunch. There are district where you might have to go. Pick them up, but in our district we will take them to you, and you don't have to worry about the weekends. The churches in our area and this is not a Kobe thing. This is all the time they pack book bags full of meals for the kids for the weekend, so they're taking care of Sunday through Saturday. He does this cost people. I, think title one pays for it which you know all. Yeah title one I thought it was title five favorite title. One's paper this okay. There are community groups that pay and do this thing for the weekend. Right where the money. Out of their own pocket. Because we. The parents don't have to pay for any of this. I'll say our district. We want to take care of students who are in Fan. I understand that but I mean the parents don't have to pay for their own kids food, no rush and I have a friend who lives. If they're a title one school they shouldn't be. She can drive up in her suburban. Her forefingers out the window and they will bring her four meals. Their family make six figure income. It's for all. When Tom I've heard these stories and I. Just you know you hear things like this. Folks at it, just another mountain that has to be climbed and overcome. This stuff. It didn't exist when I was. I look I'm not an old fuddy duddy, saying we need to go back to the way it was I'm just saying. When did we lose this era of personal responsibility? I gotta go I gotTA. Take a break. We'll be back here in the second. In, all my friends buried deep in the news cycle, you can still find stories of reported data breaches meaning massive database sites of rely. Online consumer companies that have massive numbers of customers in their data. 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And back at we are rush. LIMBAUGH executing assigned host duties flawlessly. Emitting vocal vibrations and rhetoric coast-to-coast. Reverberating. Neighborhood Eight, hundred, two, eight, two, two, eight, eight, two, okay I want you all listen to this, and particularly those of you in the audience who are African American. It it struck me when I ran across this story to stories. Actually I it at power line. the great blog. It was written by Paul Mirren Goffin this case, but what he's done. He found a couple of polls. Of Black people and has analyzed them. And reported on, it struck me. That I don't see polling data. Where the? Respondents are exclusively African. American. And it that that of surprised me. It's one of these. Realizations that. Wow, I've never seen that yet. You think it happens all the time because what happens. Is that African Americans just get lumped in with the Democrat Party. Because African Americans vote ninety three ninety five percent on average, every presidential election for the Democrat candidate, so it's assumed. That blacks believe whatever Democrats believe. And then. I know I've heard a number of times, so have you usually a white liberal getting your face? You don't even know what it's like. You know. It's like to be African. American talk. Data. They don't think they're gonNA see twenty first birthday. Cops going to shoot them for a band Taylor something. You end up. Believing that African American population really is that. what's their outlook? Is that bleak? You people just believe it. He gets sad about it. But you accepted well. Apparently, none of that is true because somebody actually has gone out and. A poll exclusively. With black respondents. Now the Title, Mirren Golf's Blog Post. Here is what do blacks say? About the police. A couple pull quotes from that piece, but for African Americans Bernie Sanders probably would be the Democrat nominee for president. african-americans said. Joe Biden's campaign even though. As, some of his opponents like to point out. He collaborated with dixiecrats. He opposed school busing and he led the charge for stiff sentencing of drug offenders. Michael Jason. Fortner author of Black Silent Majority The Rockefeller drug laws and the politics of punishment. Focuses on black attitudes about the police. Do Blacks in America really believe that they can be killed anywhere at anytime by anyone, but especially by cops. On Michael Jackson. fortner argues that they don't believe this. When asked how satisfied are you remember this pall of black respondents? How satisfied are you with the job? Your local police department does twenty one percent of black said very satisfied. fifty-one percent said somewhat satisfied. Twelve percent said somewhat dissatisfied. Only five percent said. that. They were very dissatisfied. These results do not suggest a complete endorsement. Of contemporary policing as many blacks report negative interactions yet. Nearly seventy five percent of surveyed African Americans report themselves satisfied with their local police departments. What? Who would believe that? I mean. Isn't virtually everything happening here under the guise of social justice. Is it happening because we're told. that. African Americans we're going to define the police departments because African Americans think that police departments exist only to harm them. We're told this. We don't dare arguing or refute it. Washington DC area has a large number of black immigrants from Africa. Paul Mirren Gov writing here. My impression, that is only impression. Is that these immigrants make up a considerable percentage of people who care for the elderly in the area. And they're well represented among local taxi drivers. I gathered there well represented in certain other job categories, too, but it's in these capacities that I encountered him. Do Blacks from Africa view America as a racist nation. No, not likely. They wouldn't have come here if they did. My impression. And again it's only that is that these immigrants find America a relatively congenial place. They appreciate not just economic opportunity, but also the presence of order and the absence of rampant corruption. I could be wrong. Mr Mirren Golf Rights, but I don't sense that they detest the police or that. They want America to be radically transformed, and these are African immigrants. In Washington and he's talking about here. But then he says I doubt that many native African Americans want this either. Keep in mind. that. But for african-americans. Bernie Sanders would be the Democrat nominee. Then he writes about the Michael. Jackson fortner author Black Silent Majority in the black attitudes toward the cops. Says this polling data suggests. That most African Americans do not share. The bleak view of their experiences that you think they do. In two thousand, nine, thousand nine hundred Pew Survey. Forty four percent of blacks reported being unfairly stopped by police because of their race. Fifty four percent said No. That had not happened to them. In a MONMOUTH poll taken after the death of George Floyd forty four percent of African Americans reported that they are an immediate family member felt harassed by the police, but majority did not share this experience. When asked how satisfied are you with job? Your local police department does. In just a repeat. This is Pew and Monmouth Twenty One percents at very satisfied fifty one percent somewhat satisfied folks. That's a total. Of Seventy five percents somewhat satisfied. With the job, local police departments african-americans. Two Thousand and nineteen. I things have changed obviously but. I don't think that dramatically. These results do not suggest a complete endorsement of contemporary policing. Yet nearly three quarters of surveyed African Americans report themselves satisfied. And then it says if these results shouldn't come as a surprise. But polling data presented at least one counter intuitive result at Twenty Fifteen Gallup poll. Found that black adults who believed police treated black people unfairly were also more likely to want a larger police presence in their local area. Then those who thought the police treated black people fairly. That is stunning now. Admittedly, it's two thousand fifteen. But it doesn't to me. It doesn't matter. This runs counter to everything we've been told. And again it's a survey to surveys of exclusively black respondents. Black adults who think the cops treat them unfairly. Were also more likely to want a larger police presence. Stanford think about. The color of one skin doesn't change one's humanity. Doesn't change the desire. You have for your kids to do well to want to go to education and mean anything. Why would the color of your skin somehow make you not WanNa Police Department where you live, it makes no sense and yet. This is what we're being asked to believe. That a majority of African Americans, do not want police departments and this. EFFORT TO DE-FUND POLICE Departments and Democrats cities and states is being run in the name of African Americans and it isn't true. But because there's never any polling data, exclusively a black Americans. There's never any refutation of it. Here's the conclusion for Mr Moore who? Did the poll and analyze it. Elite institutions have committed themselves to a theory. A program and performance increasingly detached from the aspirations, the world views and the everyday concerns of millions of African. Americans. Activists have secured pledges to de-fund or dismantled police departments but black Americans. have. NOT RECEIVED CONCRETE, alternative public safety plans to curb violence is the words. Get rid of the COPS. That doesn't make things safer. What's what how you GonNa do that. Most, African Americans clearly desire police reform. Over abolition. Any abbvie racist movement that disregards how working and middle class African Americans define and pursue. The good life is not worth its name boy. Is that ever right? The idea that just because of skin color. Certain people. Don't pursue. Don't want to pursue. Don't think it's possible to achieve the quote unquote. Good Life. Anyway I gotta take a break up against time. We'll be back and continue after this. Hey Hey folks you know these are these are some of the hottest and longest days of the year, and you know what happens every year. You realize it's hot. Every July, you realize the days are too long in June July. Start shortening actually after June twenty-first, but it's still. Days are long enough out there for you. 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That's exactly right, and it is a battle to the death. This country is hanging in the balance. And and whatever terminology, it takes to reach people I'm all for it. Collectivism Marxism Communism I used to I used to. Shy away from using the term communism because I thought it, too. Many people just automatically rejected. It is something that was not possible, but that's exactly what black lives matter is crush crush when you the other day when you said what gives that black lives matter founder, the right to say trump isn't qualified. She was saying that because she's certified politically correct and he's an individualist, and that's the basis. She has to criticize not anything she's ever done with their life, but politically correct theology basically is what it is. To have accomplished, anything nope doesn't have to know anything. No and chick the check. And that's part of the process You know all this group. Think the politically correct a fascist. That say you can't speak your mind. You have to only say what we've approved. That's collectivism that's diametrically opposed traditional American individuals, and that's why they have to tear down statues, the statues or honoring individuals. CARE who they are! They want to tear them down. Individualism scares them so much. Why self reliance scare them so much because they're not strong people, they don't have the inner framework. They weren't raised with faith. They weren't raised to know their history and they're. They're flailing this. If you look at history, collectivist, always come to the fore when that society is breaking down and large sections of it. Don't don't really have the internal fortitude to really live their lives alone. They have to be part of a group. That Senate so well set. I'm really glad that you I'm really glad you called. Because that's so right on, as I whatever terminology, it takes to to explain. To people I'm looking at where Ted Lynchburg. How do you think that town got its name? And I'm wondering if there's a move on. Is there okay I'm say no more than. As per usual I cannot thank you enough for being with us today folks each and every day you're here. It. It makes my day and I have deep and profound appreciation for it and look forward to being right back here in same place twenty one hours from now revved and ready to discuss whatever happens between now and then have a great rest of the day. See you soon.

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Thursday Red Pill Diaries-Most Conservative Media Is An Incestuous Cabal, Unworthy of Christians Idolatry or Financial Support!

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Thursday Red Pill Diaries-Most Conservative Media Is An Incestuous Cabal, Unworthy of Christians Idolatry or Financial Support!

"That is going to. Great maker hotline. The author of what men really want to say but can't journalist for too many decades For me to mention. Because i don't want to give her We don't wanna talk about how many decades decades and a an author a columnist a blogger. A wife a mom a christian and apparently a radical nutbag when it comes to writing and working with her in a newsroom. I say that an air finger quotation marks. Because this is what apparently happened to you. If you step outside of what is now they quote conservative media guideline box. So you know her as d.c. Mcallister denise mcallister. So i'm just gonna call her denise today and welcome her back to the mike church show here on the crusade channel. Denise how are you my dear. i'm doing well. Thanks for having me. It's always great to be here. Always great to have you there I don't want to embarrass you but you've been at this for a while and just as where did you start writing professionally right out of college. I gotta journalism degree at university of north carolina chapel hill and i became a reporter right out of college. So i've been right. Almost that was. I graduated in nineteen eighty eight. So there you go okay. So they're kind of gives us a fifty four now you you just heard bellyaching about the analog being crammed into the digital peg. You started when we didn't have google you actually had to go to libraries and use microfiche and stuff if you wanted to be a good reporter for the for the raleigh journal sentinel or wherever it is it. You started at right when internals in school. I was there when they first introduced the macintosh computers into the newsroom. And so that was really exciting. You didn't have to write on typewriters anymore. Or in the working and production for television. Because i had a minor in production for television. And you know it's just so nice not have to work on. The vid stuffing could actually work on a computer. So it goes way back as far as google and having the internet yeah had to do all that work as a journalist in the nineties before i had access in old school and was kind of nice because it was slow. You've actually had to take time to think. Get your information process Everything's so rushed today and immediate in drive by so we don't really know that contributes to the lack of critical thinking and good information out there completely now. What was the now. We did have access to a search engine if you will in the or or mid nineties or so and i'm trying to remember the name of it It still around. Because i looked at and i went. That thing is still there but no one uses. You know what i'm talking about. I don't know mean we had the ap and all of that came into our newsrooms. But i don't remember anything electronic as for as a huge database for information microfiche library stuff. There was a Wasn't all too well. I'll think of an an in a moment here but in any event the point being a you said there's okay the key word that you just said was it. It was slow. Had to take your time and then you might even had to go back to your degree at the university of north carolina. And you might have had to go back to your your schooling and go like well. That's not a primary source. That's a secondary and that was even worse one that's a secondary that's hearsay now today. They're just going. Oh an anonymous source. Said sure i mean it back in the day pretty much started with your primary sources. Because you didn't have access to all these secondary sources so I mean they were there. But i'm you always went back to the primaries i mean now to try to find a primary source on something is difficult. You have to wade through. The trash can of secondary stuff and dumpster dive to find anything. It's exhausting decisions that i was thinking of the says. Lexis nexis okay. I don't think i used that. Not very many people did because it you know what it was connected is. The funny thing here was actually connected to libraries. Yeah hard catalogs. It was connected to the and card catalog files. That had been digitized There wasn't an awful lot there. we're more how did they screw. We screwed that up. Let's fast forward to the to the president. I wanna Just start with what you and i are going to talk about with. I met you when you were writing for the federalist and About two years in David harsanyi and twenty fifteen. I made a bet with him with him. Harsanyi you're still only a steak dinner. That bad him april twenty. Sixteen mr trump's going to get the nomination trump will beat hillary and he went. No way he goes he might get the nomination is where he's going to beat hillary so harsanyi still owes me But david was somehow ushered out of the federalist. I don't know if it was at the same time that you were my question. Is this purely just from my own personal informational purposes. Has there been a change in ownership of the federalists in the last five years. Or is it still sean davis and whoever else started the david anything has been more recent. His exiting happened after me. But no the ownership is still a been dominant and sean davis mainly been dominant. Which so those two are still the publishers of the federalist that things really changed when the dominant married megan mccain so i'd really say that sending mccain is probably the publisher of the federalist say that tongue in cheek but you know devil in the details. I think it shows in some of what they're doing. They're still has some some some great reporting going on there. I'm sorry you're not area. I don't know about reporting but okay. Okay well look. Let's separate that because that's one of the bullet points i asked you about right. Let's separate the. Let's talk about that. Well let let let's. Let's go back to the dominance and megan mccain thing here and Maybe there was a change there. That the The the you present something as a report your reporting the news. Then you have the commentary or the commentary part which is okay. We got the news. And now we're going to have a commentary on the back when you and i were coming up and i'm about your age and i got into this almost the same time that you got out of college Back when you. And i were coming up. We read our local newspaper and you would have a section in favor of that would be called the editorial page. The editors the newspaper would get together in aid right and editor. We're kind of like what the wall street journal still does and the washington compost attempts to. Do they wanna read every day. They would have syndicated columnists like george will and oh gosh that lunatic. That woman anna quindlin Wrote for the new york times and they'd have good ones. I mean think some of the old school guys that you and i grew up with Or came up with we could read and be. We could rely on. Evans and novak robert novak printed babe. It was true right even if novak road something it was true but then you would have your pure commentary like joe so brin would have been commentary guy. An analyst guy not a news guy Have we completely in bulk conservative in and uses an air finger quotation marks and liberal and liberal media we completely just obliterated that line Yes stood agree. I think there's actually three categories that we need to look at when we're looking at news. There's just hard reporting and that's out there. That's there even at the new york times. Washington post a lot of these places that are your newspapers are still there. Then you have. What's called co later. Aggregated reporting and that's not primary source reporting that that's people who are sitting at the computer and then they're going in pulling everyone's reports on something and compiling them into one report And then you have commentary so at a place like national national review you have the federal estate wire all that stuff. You don't have reporting. Rarely they try once in a while. That have someone onsite doing something. But that's not what they're purposes and that's not with most of their stuff they might have maybe collated stuff. You know the aggregated news stuff. That's put into put together mashed together from a lot of different sources But then you have commentary so if you're going to try to get this may be a point of confusion for people searching out. Facts is that they're going to commentary sites instead of the source. It's kinda like going. Instead of reading the bible directly you're going reading the bible commentaries. You know they're helpful and they're good but they're secondary show Three sources But the line has been blurred where most people can't tell the difference Our most people even looking for a difference. I think most people are looking for their own opinion being reflected back at them. And that's fine if you're trying to build a coalition or something or you're trying to you know how some kind of encouragement about your own view but Or you're trying to get someone's wisdom and insight. I mean i'm. I'm a cultural commentator. For reason i'm trying to help people work through nc interpret the news and understanding news so you either trust mining world view and my perspective. Or you don't. But i'm not doing hardcore reporting and telling you facts on the ground. I'm looking at facts on the ground. And then giving you my commentary on it and in my interpretation of it in my explanation of it and all that's very valuable. I think it's great to be able to have wise people be able to do that. And that's really the problem though. Is that within our conservative commentary. Sphere you do not have wise people with a sound. Solid cohesive worldview giving you commentary and insight you have agendas. You have propaganda libertarianism. You have a non christian worldview posing as christian worldview. You have Libertinism posing as conservatism. So it all it's very mixed. And i would say it's very rare to find an actually true conservative with a cohesive worldview that understands objective truth and is bringing that wise commentary to the events of the day within conservative media. That's exac were to the wise ruse dumb soppy. And what's what's the hebrew were sophia wisdom. Now let me ask you. Let let me ask. Follow up question. Does you do someone or rephrase that should it be iraq was it like you have your requisites even in some sports like if you're going to do ice skate and you gotta do your rex right. You've got to do a figure. Eight gotta show that you can actually accurately skating in a circle and things like that. You're requisites should it be a requisite in a sounds to me like you went through it. I know i went through it People our age and older nece went through it. I don't think after us so the that they should it. Be a requisite that you can start at the bottom and you start in the news gathering part of it and you kinda learn the well. This is how we get the news in here that you can make commentary on. What do you think now. I think there's different types of commentators. Don't think you have to be a journalist to be a good wise commentator. You could be a historian theologian And be an excellent commentary can be a really well rounded understanding of different philosophies economic person thomas souls mikan amassed so it can his great commentary Commentator so i really depends on your ability to communicate truth and your ability to communicate your thoughts on the page in the world. View that your bringing to that commentary about issues of the day and current events and Sometimes actually journalist or not very good at that. They're often the worst to be on the news. The pure news reporters are not good commentators. Because there's simply gathering facts and that's what they're they're Machines and that's what they should be so the the commentators are the ones who really need to be able to think through things through the thinkers the the philosophers the theologian so the ones who can think through the issues and understand the psychologists and sociologists who understand all that together and then can bring commentary. And that's what my concern is today is that we have commentators. Who are who have agendas to make money to become famous They repeat stuff all the time that that the mob on the right likes here. Instead of standing for a real cohesive worldview something. I read read a quote that i just recently got from the congress in eighteen fifty four and that quote it was in the context of just making statements about what the congress direction as and the quote was the great vital and conservative element and our system is the belief of our people in the peer doctrines and the divine truth of the gospel of jesus. Christ it that was congress in eighteen fifty four and if you go back in that time and read newspapers at time you go back through the annals of even the new york times when you pull out that microfiche and you're looking at hard copies you will i have. You will be stunned. At the overt christian worldview on every page no not surpri. I didn't mean to say hunt as in your shirt. I meant to say that. Absolutely true denise mcallister author and a journeyman media person are media contributor and many different forms on our maker. Skype line with us. Let me go back to something you said. And i want to get a little personal here. as a you probably weren't listening before moments before you came on but i said Said i was prepping for today's interview. Something that all you wanna be a radio and tv personalities. No you're subject no it well. As a matter of fact no your subject better than the subject knows itself. Try to try to meet that bar. I can't running across use. I didn't google. I don't use google anymore. I won't. that's why actually. If i could get your book outside amazon because i wanted anyone amazon not gonna do it. But i was using duck duck. Go and i typed into meese mcallister controversy. You know at the top four results. Were fellow homophobe. So she's she's homophobic. Well i don't know that personally. But my dealings with this homophobia but this was all coming from the federalist and i'm going okay. I must have missed this. What did i miss. What happened early. You missed it i did. I miss i miss you. I did not miss that. You live but i don't do twitter gossip John i only use twitter to get news bites these days so i i knew that you that you had a falling out of whatever happened but i missed this and i got homophobic islamophobic homophobic homophobes And of course there was a pile on all your enemies where we told you so what happened. Well it wasn't just gossip on the internet. It was news. I was in the new york times across the globe. Uk daily mail. All about this now. I was actually let go from the federal. I didn't quit or leave. Were have a falling out. I got into an argument on twitter with a liberal journalists called rally and in the midst of that discussion argument. Well came out of a tweet that i had made about my husband. 'cause i joke some anti anti-feminist so a lot about my husband telling me what to do just to irritate voters. I had done a tweet about my husband. Interrupting came during a basketball game until woman be quiet. Which is kind of a joke winning right. I got deluged by the hollywood gay crowd and by the feminist which is a weird alliance. But it's out there. I got deluged for days. with accusations that my husband was abusing me and that i actually had emails and calls and threats police. We're going to be called against my husband and social services. Because i was being abused as an abused wife and so they were sending me false sympathy. Like oh denise pleased denise get out of your marriage. You're being abused. This is going on for days coming from the You know the gay. Hollywood crowd and the feminist the gay hollywood crowd got going because megan megan mccain and i had had an earlier in the week tip so it came out of that. 'cause she has a big gate kabbalah in hollywood right. This is a lot of information. But anyway so i got angry with this guy. He was mocking my marriage. Mocking my heterosexuality. And i came back. And basically in a tweet said that you're not living as a as a human being as a human male individual. You're not living. According to your purpose and design as god designed it instead of trying to find meaning and gay sex and i put gay sex pretty crass sleep but that's not why i was. People got angry at me. They ain't so. I got daily because i had criticized homosexuality and said it was basically Illegitimate and i immediately was fired. By ben shapiro from the daily wire he direct message. Me and said sever all contact all alliance daily wire because of what you tweeted. In response to yasser rally and shapiro completely ignored. The whole context of the man had been attacking my heterosexual marriage and leading a whole mob against my husband and falsely accusing him of a crime. So that was very difficult to ben. Shapiro fired me. And then right after that the federalist lego so and then after that. Pj media let me go and for two. That was two years ago and for two years. I have not been hired by any conservative outlet fox news banned me and i'm no conservative. Leaders will speak to me. Welcome to my world. I'm sure you don't wanna money into well. I'm sure you didn't want to be in it. and it sounds like they want to be in my world. I do it as a as a as a red badge of courage and honor. Like i don't need you buy but that's not for everyone. I'm intrigued you to job. I lost my. I got fired from my job but the interesting thing was that this was from the right so the right defended a sacred cow on the left by criticizing homosexual and very harsh way about how that his lifestyle choices are not legitimate And then i was let go. That was not allowed within conservative media. Conservative media that is supposed to be based on you know a fundamental conservative worldview. That's rooted in the judeo christian ethic. So yeah there was an abandoned their about sexual identity and i could not speak freely on that point. Shown just to kind of bring that point forward. That is probably still going on today. cpac was last week and or two two weekends ago. Coming up on two weekends now and One of the More outspoken women Today it was a catholic Or abby johnson and abby johnson has gone down the road that you're going down and in her Her awakening if you will. She's become very. She was very much kind of get along to go along. Oh what is in her. You know the they wanna be this. And he's he's gained. He's at but you know she was an goshen. I dole ideal of the pro-life movement for what the life that she led and what she had done right well. Abby started going to a very traditional form of the catholic right the latin mass about About nine months or so ago and when the transformation began abbey's out there going like exactly what is conservative about this cpac thing because i don't see it. You know who poundstone abby. It wasn't anyone at the new york times or the or vox or any of these other Leftwing progress progress. Unity lip commie rags. It was shapiro and company. They're the ones that descended are. How dare you. This is the greatest gathering. Oh conservative mines y because men gets invited why it's not a conservative. He's lost okay. Now this is a big big point of contention here or chew things. I heard you say that. I want to talk about In time we have left. And then i want to continue dialogue with you. Because this is this is important. It's important to me personally. Important is radio station is radio channel and you hit on it so One is the shapiro thing and the other one is something that you said. And i'm sure you've repeated it so let's talk about this and i'm gonna give you the example. Okay i'm gonna give you the actual example. I'm not going to talk in abstract terms. And i'm going to say this pisses me off and raises my hackles on the back of my neck and i go. That's wrong that is on. That is that that is ethically in correct. Okay here we go and item at the federalist four days ago which looked like a news item and the the topic of the news release and this was probably the greatest news in the history of christianity. Was that little been. Oh have a coupon code for you. Get my fifteen minute. Podcast of everything is wrong with the left. And if you get my fifteen minute podcast. Twenty percent off a brand new subscription to the daily daily wire. This was presented as a news item. What follow was a thousand words of infomercial. This was a str- i read in is going like this oughta have a disclaimer at the top of it. This is sponsored content but it didn't it pissed me off and what you know how much i would have to pay. Whoever's the publisher federalist to get that kind anc for my equally but superior radio and broadcasting product. They wouldn't even take my money. This is to me. This tells you everything you need to know. It certain entities there are certain golden calves that cannot be sacrificed but are elevated to calf like idol standards. And apparently anything there's shapiro doesn't touches is one of them and i go like this guy. Not even conservative. This guy was on with the bishop. Baron ambition barron lending get away with it. He denied the existence of the divinity of my lord and savior. Jesus christ throwing money at him now drawn. He deserved to get get crucified. he should have been crucified because he was a fraud. That's what ben shapiro said about our lord. Okay now now i have. I have a personal thing here. Because i'm in charge of and responsible for the livelihood or some aren't alive who livelihoods a thirteen people. That's a that's a little cross. I bear with joy. Tried to every single day One of the things i can do for them is get us more listeners and viewers and then i can maybe make their Economic life just a little bit better right. i can't do. And if i'm up against that the deck is stacked against me. There's no entry point of which i am. Ever going to broach. Because of this golden calf. Now to me you will magazine. It can do what you want. Yeah sure sure is. You ought to have an editorial statement about it. Then you ought to at least not presented as some sort of a news item to me. The and i see this in catholic circles all the time you cannot. Profit off of the misery and off of a blasphemies posses sees of the one holy catholic and apostolic church. And that's what it is you're profiting off of their. You almost revel in it to me. There are so many ethical breaches in what i call broadcasting or media today. I don't know where to start. And i could probably write a book about this. But the one the federalist one there that is direct that happened. It happened this week. It's still up your you were rated today. I started to write a letter. Who who do i. Write to dominic davis. I've written a number four knowledge my existence. Why waste my time now in my wrong. Is this ethical or is there something else going. It's an ethical breach. Or maybe i'm wrong. What are you or is this a breach of another sort of. Maybe this is just a this is just a new. Good ole boys country club republican network dating. So you need to understand is that there's a cabal within conservative media and they're all connected. It's about money who has money and who has influence and you need to understand that been dominant. She rents the federalist and ben shapiro or our friends. I don't have to really close friends. But the friends. I think even been dominant ghost wrote one of ben shapiro's books but they're very connected making mccain ben. Shapiro our buddies. This is all one big behind the scenes relationship. So you want your within the the circle of trust among those who wanna make the money. your broaden and then they they feed each other and they promote each other anyone outside that they don't so they put personality in relationship and connections and those kind of construct that that will advance their own careers. I before principles. That's just the way a lot of mediaworks it even as that way within christian media. It's it's that way in secular media. It's about those relationships behind the scenes that can promote each individual within the group to for more money and more fame so the connection the daily wire in the federal. Very close you. I saw that. Because i got fired when i got fired from the daily wire i was. I was fired from the federal s. So let from the federal city. Didn't actually fire me. There pressured me out and then long story. But they kicked me out so it it was just It's very incestuous behind the scenes as far as ethical about what they run. I mean it is. It is there. The federal has been dominant magazine. He can run what he to there. So you know. It's not unethical but it isn't breach of trust with readers present if you present yourself as a conservative website or libertarian conservative. Which been dominance is libertarian. He is not conservative. Same with ben shapiro Even the ben shapiro claims to be more conservative than libertarian. So this is. Their agenda is not focused on the christian worldview at the foundation. It's about liberty alone. So liberty and self interest are the primary concerns for both the daily wire in the federalist and not principles that were rowling around in the culture war to fight the left. So it's a very mixed bag there. Okay so I knew some of what you just said about dominance because about a month or so ago and aditorial and or peace essay. Whatever you wanna call it at the. Federalists and i'm reading it twice in the peace us. He a for us drops f. bombs and his own piece and going like really dude. You're the editor. You can't do that. He will he. He'll do that just like the folks that reason they talk that way and their editorial give jimmy a little a little respect for my for my dignity Out maybe. I wanna read your magazine but i want to read that so i'm not surprised about but there is a very a very very large chasm between libertarianism and conservatism anyone. That doesn't get it or thinks that i'm full of dc is full of or that your sour grapes or whatever. The that don't really know they're not if you want to see the difference we wanna read about it denise. I'm sure you're familiar with it. Maybe you read it if not gory go read it. Because you'll get ample writing material from him go read. Russell kirks nineteen fifty-eight essay chirpy secretaries. Everything explained right there because someone called russell kirk olympic -tarian and the great dr kirkman. And that dog don't hunt. I am not terry now. This is in the fifties and this is before. Murray rothbart was even remotely famous in the fifties and dr kirkman nuke. That is not me. I am not this is why i am a conservative. And why that guy's libertarian. And he made it crystal clear. There is a huge difference and You know we all share the same judeo-christian No we don't know knowing an concern. That was a concern of mine. While i was at the federal daily wire so conflict behind the scenes was actually before i was even kicked out because i was fighting for conservative values in the especially around the areas of sexual identity and sexual design and those issues which are so paramount today. And we're seeing it grow and grow and so i was fighting for that because i understood that. If you don't have that biblical today christian i'm just gonna say christian worldview that is foundational to the conservative understanding of liberty within the united states. Then you will lose that liberty the problem with the libertarians as they put liberty out there without a cohesive worldview and moral foundation in which to sustain that liberty. So they're fighting a war for liberty. And you'll hear ben shapiro. And the people federal's talked about liberty a lot and they may even talk about religious themes and but they don't really foundational understanding of how committed. You must be the moral absolutism. That comes out of the gospel of jesus christ and out of the bible as the foundation of our liberty that our founders understood and they also don't realize that we are fighting a culture that doesn't care about liberty more they do. They don't care so so the constant refrain of. Don't you wanna free or let's be liberty falls on complete deaf ears with our society today. That's because our society has chosen equality of outcomes liberty. It's went to tocqueville warned about back in the early nineteenth century. He said the trajectory of america is that it must keep a balance between equality and liberty but when equality of conditions outweighs liberty. You will lose your liberty in because the quality of outcomes is a whole different thing. It's about it's mark struggle. it's devoid of christian worldview. it's about making objectivism. And and people their god so that libertarians do not have the tools the weapons in which to battle culture war only conservative stu and conservatives need to step up and fight it and that's why canceling of people who are conservative in who are fighting for those worldviews. No matter how offensive they may be to. The world are invaluable in this culture fight. Have you tried to contact the editors at first things by any chance. No i have. Not one of the differences is. Because i'm not a catholic writer. But they they crossed that line. they have jewish. They have Evangelical conservatives and catholics them. That's the difference between first things and crisis crisis doesn't i think's does And they published actually You you'd love to be published in in printing. And i'm sure you would. They actually published a magazine once a month. I get it and why are you. Why do you support for saints. Because i am not an absolutist. I don't wanna preach to an echo chamber. I like talking to people that in my little mind. Go like okay well. They don't agree with me. Maybe maybe maybe there's some truth or kernel of wisdom that they haven't heard that can win them over to my point of view or maybe i need maybe i. Maybe i learned something from them. These chamber conversation no purpose whatsoever. Look we're going to run out of time. We're already out of time. I can speak to you from now until the end of the day and we still wouldn't cover everything One final thing here. And i wanna have you back and we to continue discussion I'll give you a couple of weeks to recover from this and from the backlash she don't have to worry about backlash from those guys. Don't admit that. I exist. Even though i predate them by two decades but it it's okay you can do this show you wanna. They'll never even know something happened this week though along the same lines. You're a crusader against toxic femininity. I think That's a pretty good description of for you. i think Against all things that are perverted. Sexual including feminism. There you go Something has happened. A little Hired and made a big deal at hiring. Candace owens and i know candace owens from blowing my phone up and trying to get me senator. Twenty five dollars back during The the the campaign in the early part of the campaign last spring. I didn't even really. I kind of knew she wasn't really didn't know he was. But this is what's really sent me going like okay. What the hell is going on here. I'm watching his trailer. That the daily wire made for this. Candace owens sean. i'm going. is this a show that is supposed to visit conservative on bravo. What is this. Is she of runway. Model is she. Is she a spokesman for laurie. How what conservative. Griff or a gift of opinion genius which is what the written form says him. I suppose again. I say you know what. I'm going to ask denise about this because you and i could celebrate true femininity which to me means being a mom and a good wife and yet you can Have that participation in the professional world as well but mom and wife What was your day. Did you see the trailer that i'm talking about. No but i can. I'm guessing the pictures that can imagine. There's a lot of glitz and glam that's put around our conservative celebrities now especially those around the daily wire because they have millions of dollars being poured into them by libertarian sources. So it you know that it's about trying to appeal to the mvp like mirror. This hollywood concept and ben shapiro. Who came as is associated with is very much about cozying up to hollywood because he wants to become like hollywood. Show no yet. He's very enamored with the hollywood fame. And so he wants to emulate it and poor his money into it and he doesn't want to offend the hollywood elite. Not really i mean he will about some things that he knows. He can get away with but well things like criticizing homosexuality as an illegitimate sexuality. He will not do because it offends hollywood. So you know the glitz and glam. The money that goes into the marketing you know is very much a mirror of what he wants to be in. Hollywood and kansas will definitely be glam glommed up in order to appeal to that crowd. Yeah but they're they're not glitz and glamour in the promo. This is a woman's woman's conservative way. Do you see how conservative she is on. Friday nights terrorizing liberals. She's she's not. She has more libertarian conservatives. She's again i. I don't know if they're not out. I'm to be honest with you. And this may be too harsh but if they are not ever bringing in the christian worldview as the fundamental reason behind why conservativism is against the left if they're not bringing that up and speaking about that boldly not any of their footage. Then they're not being a true conservative. I i just not in the culture that we have today where the lines are so clearly being drawn in. Christians are being scapegoat. The she concerned every christian with your catholic-protestant doesn't matter you're being scapegoated in this society. As the problem for every ill and our democracy this is a dangerous dangerous trend and we need a rally around this people who see it and are willing to stand on the actual worldview biblical worldview to fight it not with libertarians. Who who are going to ultimately ended up siding with the left and canceling you. When you say things they don't like love it. I love it. Hey people do want to read you. I know you have a website. What's the site. And i don't have what's i i only. I have twitter. And then i'm coming now at the american thinker so you can find my stuff there. Yes i saw the american the piece of buck kristi nome when someone who agrees with me. We're out of time really and gatekeepers online. Am i right religious stuff there. It's a blog but the yet lee american thinker online line. I'll do more thought pieces. But i don't have a lot of places to right here right because of my cancelling Look you can write for us any time. You want semi private note. And we'll we'll we'll negotiate some terms and i would love the publisher seriously. kristi noem quickly. Before you go so. When she came in the house i was at sirius. Xm that back in those days when When i was someone for they cancelled me. And as I was the the senior elder statesman of all the hosts there. And i was there when bainer got the gavel. She came in and that tea party class. I was there. When i say i actually went to more. I didn't want to go but i did. And then i met christie and i interviewed her several times and into dc. It wasn't. I want to say a month two months. Her and joni ernst both were in that class and within sixty days k. Street had got him. I didn't know who christie was interviewed. And when she was a candidate by the time she'd had been sworn in. I'm going to hell is this chick. What did you do with. Cristiano joni ernst the exact same thing. So when i registered used for the for the american thinker. I win not only that she do that but when she actually was first elected in tea party class she was one of us. She was a tea party. tea party member an early tea. Party member activist. And that all just went out. Then governor south dakota. Maybe it's because she's in south dakota and she can get away with it or that's what they expect over but even if it is She is delivering what they expect. So i concur with you. Because i know her from before. I even said this right maggie when all this started i went. Who is wait a minute. This is not the same kristi. Noem that i went eight years ago when nope yeah now. Conservative republicans i should say. Republicans have a very bizarre tendency to flock to really pretty women and think that they are god's gift of conservatism. Because they can put two together. Say liberty talk about their cowboy father and look good on stage. It's really embarrassing. You need to be able to look past and look deeper and look at people's records and she has a lot of good. I'm not going to say that she doesn't she stands for pro-life But in the border control but she is she fifty eight percent liberty score. She's a failure as legislator when it comes to actually standing for conservative principles. This is something we need to look at. We need to look past the lab anti Past the cult of personalities whether it's in politics or whether it's an media look at what people are saying look for substance look for depth. Look for wisdom and insight. Because that's what we need in these times for brave people who are actually willing to stand in sacrifice for the sake of their christian worldview and principles you know rather than going with the crowd in order to make money and in order to fit in to the in group that is just something we need to be aware of winnie more. You need to get rid of of unita. They're saying what you just said and everyone needs to hear what what they can't get my podcast. They can't do with what they could do on youtube or some because don't put it on youtube. We have our own servers. So you can share it to your heart's content and it'll be there wherever you wanna go access at anyone. You want to send it to. 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Why 'Gun Culture' Is Every Bit a Part of America as 'Speech Culture'

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Why 'Gun Culture' Is Every Bit a Part of America as 'Speech Culture'

"This is the reason podcasts, and I'm your host Nicoletti. Please subscribe to us at I tunes and rate and review us while you're there. No issue in American politics is more contested than gun rights. Believers and strong secondment writes, typically argue that little or no restrictions should be placed on people's abilities to buy own and carry weapons while critics of input for banning of whole classes of weapons, strict rules about who is allowed to buy guns and how many and limiting wear guns can be carried and whether they can be loaded. But for all the heat generated by talk about guns. Very few of us know very little about the history of guns in America. My guest today, the journalists, David, her Sanni, and he seeks to remedy that in his latest book. First freedom a ride through America's enduring history with the gun. So well documented deep. Look at the role guns have played in our country's history even before we became a country. David, her Sahni is a senior editor at the federalist as a syndicated columnists he's a contributor to reason. And he's also the author of several previous books, including the people have spoken and they are wrong. The case against democracy and nanny state have food fascist teetotalling do-gooders privilege more or less and other boneheaded bureaucrats are turning America into a nation of children. David, thanks for talking to raise it. Thanks for having me appreciate. So let's start with the kind of elevator pitch about the buck you you at one point you right because of an I'm quoting from you because of the divisive political realities of the age. We often hear the term gun culture being thrown around us infective gun culture. You right is no less a part of American life than religious culture. Speech culture, as our history unambiguously illustrates gun is inextricably linked to American culture. One cannot exist without the other. What are you getting out there. Well, I grew up in an area where when when I was a kid, no one had guns other than criminals in New York basically. So I was always sort of interested in what was unique about American life in the gun and why certain people really treated serve. I realized guns and treated the, you know, in a romantic sort of way almost. And you grew up in Queens, New York around. You know it was it was someone working class, but still it wasn't, you know, I don't know anyone who went hunting or anyone who had, you know guns in their home or anyone who gave a gun growing up. I mean, in my professional life, I've met a lot of people from middle America and they're like, you know, my dad gave me a shotgun when I was twelve or something that would have been horrified, and it's fascinating because I must have from a similar. The New York area where you? Yeah, guns were. I mean, you would see them on TV shows you would read about them in the newspaper, says somebody pulls a gun, but you would never go over to a house. Nobody had gun racks. Nobody had rifles. Nobody had anything. I didn't shoot my first gun until I was in my thirties, so, but you know, but I was always sort of a big second amendment proponent whenever you know the point I start thinking about things like that, and and it was very d- logical for me and because of the debate that is very partisan and varied illogical, I figured it would be interesting to tell the story of gun culture outside of that in a way, and it's not said, don't talk about the phil- philosophical underpinnings of. The second amendment, but guns are have been embedded in American life from the beginning as a tool of survival as as a as a as a way of commerce. I mean, when you talk about the first industrial revolution, you're talking about gun makers and as in an end for hobbyists. So it's been part of American numerous ways for longtime anything without understanding that history. You can't really understand the debate today. Talk about the early part I'm in the book is set up into different sections that are roughly historical, large historical units, but talk about the colonial experience with guns that that lead into the American revolution. And obviously, you know, reason supports, broad brush, you know, we don't have any, you know, positions, everybody holds, but everybody have reason believes in strong second amendment rights. And one of the one of the standard arguments is at you. You know, if you have guns, you've, you know, it's a hedge against tyranny headed that play out in the. American revolution. Well, I'm not sure people understand that the the rights of self defense in in in owning a firearm, but other weapons as well goes back farther and British sort of common land law than the right, certainly freedom of religion and freedom of speech. It's one of the oldest rights that you have in liberalism, you know, small liberalism. So the Americans came over with that. They came over with tradition of militias, but more than that, the the place that they were geographically and physically the things they had to deal with. For instance, when the pilgrims first landed within a day EROs were falling on them, they had to defend themselves. They had to survive by hunting, all those things made guns indispensable. Not to mention. They had to worry about the French Spanish and others in made it indispensable in a way that Europeans were settled in and protected by the state didn't have to worry about the state was thousands of miles away quite often couldn't protect you. And that tradition actually kept going onto the fifties where Americans were moving west constantly and sort of on their own. Away. So I think those traditions have a lot to do with guns as well. I don't think those can be separated and. It was interesting one point you you write about how it's kind of telling that after the American revolution and after the the patriots, the loyalists that I, the Americans win, right? The rebels. I stopped trying to remember who all these people but say that what one thing that's interesting is that there wasn't any part of the country and any government agency that said, okay, wars over now. Give us back your guns, right? I mean, there's a sort of revisionist history about how the guns were weren't that prevalent, but that it was a collective, right? But militias don't exist without individuals who have guns. No one asked the minimum to hand back their weapons muskets after they were shooting at the British at Lexington and concord. The Americans who fought for far larger better trained force and many died. There were fighting to protect a cache of weapons. They were, you know, in in the powder alarm which happened right before the revolution and almost, you know, fighting almost broke out. Then they were protecting gun powder which was very difficult to come by at the time. So oldest things were driven by. Opens and quite often I read a read a lot of history and a lot of American history. Sometimes they don't even mentioned guns in the book, you know, and you're like, that is one of the main reasons why that's why I call it first freedom. If you don't have that freedom, obviously, other ones be taken away. Yeah, even though it's, I mean, normally we think that the first amendment or the first, you know, first amendment rights and the gun rich of the second amendment. You mentioned briefly that the early industrial revolution or a lot of the kind of entrepreneurs and tinkers and and and ultimately major industrialists in America were gun makers talk about people like Colt Smith and Wesson Winchester the abbey, and it's funny. These are names that you be. They've the people behind them have kind of faded because we just take them as you know. You know, I guess like Ford or Chrysler, we don't really about the guys behind that anymore. Well, some of them were the first great capitalists, you know that existed in this country amid very American characters. Oughta die Dax, who sort of tinkering as you said and came up with Emets ING ideas just to St. step back and view history. More broadly, you went from shooting a musket maybe twice in a minute to by the by the nineteen early nineteen hundreds shooting hundreds of rounds per minute in World War One. Just massacring people in a way and fortunately or not. Americans were big part of that evolution. And Sam Colt, for instance, was just one of the most amazing American characters e changed the way we do things in many different areas. For instance, he was one of the first people to use interchangeable parts way before four did it. He which could make a gun cheaper. So normal man could just buy one where more than one he used the press to sell it. He had celebrity endorsements. He, he created the mythology of the west and many ways or started to. And he was just an amazing character he built. He was the first American sort of industrialised to go to Europe and open a factory rather than them coming here. So he didn't many mazing things. I think he deserves a new big biography himself, but other Smith and Wesson and all these other people that you meant Winchester for instance, wasn't an engineer. He was just he was shirt maker and he decided that guns were better moneymaker form and they were. So there are a lot of guys like that who who just went to Connecticut, mostly, but elsewhere who who really were great engineers and what was the concentration of people in Connecticut was just that I obviously New England and the mid Atlantic region were the first heavily populated, but and they were early to industrialize because I guess they had a electric power and stuff. But was there, was there something specific about Connecticut or is it just kind of like one company starts there and then you know people get trained by it or leave it, or you know, like attracts like, I think it's a lot of that, and but also not far. Away, Massachusetts Springfield was where the first armed American armory was, and a lot of the engineers who work there would later leave and start their own companies. That reminds me many ways of like Silicon Valley right now where you had campuses like the Colt factory was a campus people lived on it. They provided entertainment their life sort of revolved around that campus. So they were similar in many at this point in a in the nineteenth century, what? What is there a mythology around the gun? And if so, what? What was it there is, I think we mythology is the the nineteenth century, many ways the west, you know, with all the violence, we see in movies which really didn't exist. Most people had gun, so people were for they were you don't just pull a gun when everyone has a gun, right? It'd be a little more careful. So I'd like dodge city. I think for the time of the gunslinger I think there was one death, one murder per year on average around like that, but other things as well. The Kentucky rifle, which was one of the great early innovations in guns. Was not used in the re hardly used in the revolution yet. We, you know, later on it was romanticized as being a big part of it. So you know, there's that that kind of thing. But when you read nineteen, I went back and read a lot of old books from the eighteen hundreds and the way people romanticize guns was even a little bit. You know, shocking to me. I mean, it was a big part of their lives. When you look at Daniel Boone, for instance, he's always standing there with his Kentucky rifle things like that. Well, yeah, I Uni. I mean, obviously, if you're exploring the the continent or if you're moving around on the front lines of stuff, you talk a little bit about a Lewis and Clark, and what was the role of weaponry in their expedition? Obviously, for hunting, it was important. They were the some of the first at least English speaking people to run across herds of buffalo, which they couldn't believe what they were saying. You know, thirty mile long hurts things like that. But interestingly, they brought with them a different kind of gun. It was an air gun which could shoot almost like an autumn fully. Automatic weapon. And mostly it was used to impress the Indians that they met along the way not really to use in any sort of wet, you know any sort of warlike way or or or for violence. So for the most part, their guns and they had other sort of really almost cannon guns. It's hard to explain that were sort of makeshift, but they use them mostly to impress the people around them not as terrent, right? And that's big guns are are often determines a dirty Harry, but set in the nineteenth century. But then it was is it is remembering correctly when you say that. But when Lewis and Clark came back and they were going through, I guess, Saint Louis or something like that. They basically unloaded all of their weapons for like four hundred bucks and nobody knows what happened now they were. Yeah, they were sold at auction and they sort of disappeared. Now quite sometimes we find old guns like the NRA museum in Virginia far from here has a, it's a really cool museum tons of guns that they have of the Mayflower gun. And you know, I'm a little skeptical that that gun was actually in the may. Flower, but it is because it was that was owned by like mile Standish or somebody. This was owned by just a person on, you know, just a regular person on the boat, and it was a Wheelock mechanism, really intricate and beautiful. But again, you know, I'm a little skeptical c- a couple of people I want to ask you about because they're kind of day are gun heroes, but one was a Custer and obviously not not hero, but we have this image of him as little big horn and his men being, you know, surrounded and then taken down in a hail of arrows, but that that isn't quite right, right. No, archaeologists went back and now they, they have found all kinds of guns of the time, and it was sort of the sort of a great period for innovation and the Indians. Literally, I think outgunned him not out a-rod him now don't get me wrong arrows for many years. Arrows were better than guns in certain kind of fighting. They were more precise. The early Americans could shoot a musk. Maybe fifty yards and not for much game. That's why the Kentucky rifle was so interesting hours could be better and Indians were great, great with guns and right away took to them and in the sixteen hundreds and a change their lives, where they hunted, the violence sort of of their, you know, tribal warfare. But the problem for them was obviously they couldn't build them and they couldn't make munition so that that was always their problem. But if they could have done that, maybe things turn out a little different. Talk about wild Bill hickok because he's us as kind of the first the poster boy of of a sharp, not a sharp shooter, a quick draw guy. Yeah. Well, yeah, and he's been mythologised quite a bit, but he was a real person and he was a murderer, you know? I mean, there are a lot of those gunfighter is that we now sort of celebrate. We're basically just psychopaths, you know, many of them which ability that kid was just a murderer, you know, and it wasn't as if they met at, you know, on the street in town and faced off dueled each other, he would just shoot people in the back or. Or whatever it was, you know? So we've made the gunfighter serve a hero or anti hero or whatever that they aren't. But as for cocky was he was an amazing character who sort of was the template for what other gunfighter is would want to be in the future how he looks long hair, all of that and his, you know, he became famous because a writer for Harper's went out west, and it was told stories about this guy who was really quick drug, you know, and had a famous duel with a guy named, I think it was Dave Tutt who was a confederate soldier and that story sort of blew up the whole. You know the story telling the west created the whole template that we even use now in movies and you had all the penny presses and all sort of books that were sold millions of them were sold. What shows put on what would need do think that was filling what? What, what it was scratch for people back east? Well, I think that America's such a short history that they don't have the sort of mythology that others have in that. And that they were probably reaching four back for their own time when people are so individualistic, it's very important in American law to be individualistic. Take care of yourself, defend yourself that that probably was something that excited them in in simply because it was purely American and something they could celebrate, I guess, about America and that that feeds into the the rise of buffalo Bill Cody and Annie Oakley who you know, had a show. I mean, it was basically like the prairie home companion, but with you throw in sitting bull and a know bunch of Indians and Cowboys doing a scene inside what you know, where was that the most popular and and and how did that flesh out this kind of mythic west that kind of was still there, but had already faded and then had never really existed in the first place. Well, what once you had the story once the west became popular in the east people were looking for for heroes, right? So buffalo Bill was is got his name because he. Kill. Literally people killing thousands of Buffalo's like, you know, within a few months time because buffalo wouldn't run away, you could literally shoe keep saying literally, but you shoot them in the head and walk away and then the next one. So he was doing that for the railroads which removing west and someone sort of found him as a hero when he went to Chicago, and he wrote a play with a few others in about two three hours and they put it on and from all contemporary accounts, it was terrible, but people loved it and it became a huge hit. And he decided because he was, you know, he was a smart man though not educated that he could form his own show and he did, and he brought all the sort of heroes of the west that he can find sharp shooters. You know, people who could LASSO and things like that and Indian famous Indian chiefs, even people at fought against each other of reminds me of the Roman Colosseum in a way where the Romans would serve set up a fake lake and have you know, naval battles and things like that. And then he found any Oakley who is really an amazing amazing woman who who is not that mythology, she was just an. Amazing shot. She would do all kinds of incredible things and it wasn't just famous in the east. They went to Europe quite often. Buffalo Bills spend half the touring and half the urine, his ranch in Wyoming, and I guess the Europeans us so them were also fetish izing America's was, as you know, the American west was yuck out of address space exploration deal or something. Absolutely. One of the first movies was vani ever made was vani Oakley shooting. So she was she was just a huge, huge of famous shaded, get her own Broadway musical eventually. So she died in Maryland with her husband who she who was also a sharp shooter and they were married for very long time. They died peacefully, right. They weren't at each other. Well, hang Oakley, wrote a letter. I think it was two McKinley or whoever was present during the Spanish American war that she could bring get some women who've rate because she wasn't the only anti Oakley others like her and that they could go over there and do some sniping. How did the how? How did the increase in shooting power, stopping power. Of guns. And you alluded earlier to machine guns by World War One, you know the the, the mechanics of the ability of guns to do mass violence amass. Did that take any of the shine off of the gun as a as an object in American life. I think to certain extent, yes. Because when you think about the Gatling gun, he was the first sort of it was a crank machine gun. It was hard to use and movies. You see him using the civil or all the time they're hardly ever used because there were very hard to aim and move around. You could outflank, but there's always that iconic scene of where regular soldiers walking by and somebody comes up and takes a tarp off it and then mows them down, right? Like the outlaw Josey Wales, you know, things like that. Very rarely used though the only time it was used when it was when a soldier himself bought it. I troops meeting a Colonel or something bought one and brought it, and it was, you know, so. But it was, it changed the way. I think people thought about guns. And soon you had a maxim gun which which was a recoil powered automatic gun. And then John Browning another's invented the gas powered gun, which essentially chew as much as you wanted. You know an and that's why you have trench warfare in World War wants to the big change from the civil war to World War. One is. Amazing. And I think that Americans especially then not to jump too far ahead. But in the nineteen thirties, when you had these criminals gallivanting around the countryside with fully automatic Tommy guns and actually bar big heavy machine-guns. It changed the way Americans thought about it, and that's when you first get the gun control. I wanted to go to that talk about the murder that happened in New York in nineteen. Eleven that kind of started modern gun control, and there had been you. You mentioned in the book in the nineteenth century, there were various kind of local attempts to regulate guns in in all sorts of different ways and and blacks at various points have been disarmed just as a particularly in the south. But it's really a. I mean, it's kind of fascinating to think about that. What we call gun control is really a twentieth century phenomenon, but but talk about this murder in New York, that kind of got that ball rolling. Right. So as you mentioned, there were some gun control laws, but never ever did a person that I know of in history in American history have a person is a person. Required to go to the state and ask permission to own a gun. Sometimes you have to hand in your gun because you're in a red light district or whatever, and you agree to that, but you don't have to go there, obviously, that sort of thing. But in New York, there was a a murderer by basically, it seems like it was an insane person who shot a playwright in broad daylight on the street than shred to shoot himself and I believe in die. But maybe he died later. So there was a an autopsy done in the person who saw this autopsy was horrified by the results and sort of petitioned government to do something about it. And we started passing laws in New York City proper where you have to have a licensed to carry a gun. This first time you have concealed carry permit. Basically mostly though it was used because there was sort of gang warfare going on Catholics and that sort of thing. And basically it was, you know, the Irish against, you know, others and was used for that sort of thing with within politics, and it wasn't enforced very strongly because people as we see. See through records of criminality had guns as you know, there were tons of guns around that weren't registered, but that was the first time that people ask the state people were asked to go to the state and asked for permission to have a handgun, and it was it was it was sort of turning point and then you you talk about how in the twenties and thirties, criminality or or gun gun violence seemed to it. It's not necessarily clear that it was it was that common, but it was certainly very visible and very public, and you start to get more an organized crime. So I guess comes a, you know, for the first time ovation created this criminality in the criminality brought more violence death and certainly homicides with guns and then and that leads to to among other things, the national firearms act, what? What is the role of that in kind of twentieth century gun culture? Well, so you had all these criminals running around with guns, and it was. But it was basically happening in a few urban areas elsewhere. There was not any sort of spiking gun crimes in Chicago was one place in somewhat New York and elsewhere on an even then the per capita gun homicide rate was still lower than it is Chicago today. You know what I'm saying? So it was but movies you had all these movie surf celebrating these James Cagney, things like that where they're shooting Tommy cuts without any sort of recoiled Justino mowing people down. It's all it's all fiction, right? Tommy guns were rarely used in criminal acts because they were super expensive to buy and they were also not affected for criminals. They didn't want to kill a bunch of people. They wanted to kill one person usually at a time criminals are very focused. Yes, they're that good at their jobs and they do what they need to do. So obviously, but they were used and it was scared to people. So you had because of this, you had the federal government which was, you know, an FDR came in, everything was sort of central, you know he was focused on centralizing government in many ways. So they started passing. Laws where you weren't allowed to carry certain types of guns. And if you had machine gun full fully automatic machine gun rather than just a semi automatic, you have to pay, you had to sort of register or pay pay money to have one. And that sort of laid the groundwork for the first time for the federal government to get involved in gun control. And there were two separate bills, and then they were purposely challenged in court so that FDR supreme court to say it was all kosher, and that sort of laid the groundwork, not only four gun control for the collectivists sort of revisionism of American gun ownership and things like that. That's when the debate I started, but it was crystallized. I think later in the seventies and yeah, because what in the in the postwar, your crime crime does start to rise pretty significant, the falls. But yeah, rises by the seven. And then also number of high profile assassinations whether it's JFK or RFK or Martin Luther King. How did that. You know how, how did that kind of activity? I mean, for was it simultaneously it seems you have you have a couple of things going on. One is that the romance of the gun of Gary Cooper in high noon who is, you know, he's a peaceful man or whatever, but he'll do what he has to do starts go out the window and you get this idea of criminality. And then you also have in a fascinating way in the sixties. And I think the Black Panthers did this most spectacularly where they started using the gun as as a way of menacing white America. And there's the famous sequence where they actually because of a tick in California's laws, they, you can actually carry guns openly as you weren't concealing them. And then that leads to hysteria you people made better arguments for the second amendment than the Black Panthers. That's true. And and they had an in the black history with the gun is, and you know, after the civil war, many civil rights activists of the time were very, very pro gun and the Black Panthers. Actually made it very, very good and strong argument for the second amendment as a means of protecting oneself. Occasionally they killed a cop or whatever, but you know, that's separate from their argument. I, it's very interesting. So I think that after the war you had a ton of men coming home. Many of them had weapons and crime did not go up. There was a huge boom in hunting and sports and things like that with a gun, but not much crime. I forget what the polls are exactly, but it there was a poll. Where do you feel safe in your home? And it was like, ninety percent of people did in America by nineteen sixty five sixty six that plummets and from sixty mid sixties to the to the nineties. Actually there's this era of crime basically and early nineties. That's when the gun debate changed. You had people probably have urban people mostly saying, we have to take a guns away from people because this is crazy what's going on and getting mugged. And then you have have people saying, I need a gun to protect myself from these crazy people. So that's where the divide happens. That basically is what we're still debating, I think, and that's. When cities, but also in sixty eight. Some federal laws start to really push gun control in. That's why people in DC couldn't. That's why Heller happened later and so forth. So there's a lot of criminality much more than in the thirties and that really changed the way things happened. In fact, in nineteen seventy seven. That's when the NRA had its famous conference where they have to decide if they're going to move to Colorado and become sort of a sportsman's group, or they were going to become a political group. And if it if it wasn't the NRA, someone else would have done it, but they made obviously the choice. The stained DC took about Ronald Reagan because you know, he's, he's kinda fascinating care. He's kind of he's a very fascinating character for all sorts of reasons. And in the context of debates about the second amendment gun culture and whatnot, because he's a strong support. You know he played western heroes. He was like he was. I was going to say he was like version of Gary Cooper at various ports, but it's also true. He was shot. You know he was and and he ended up endorsing. Kind of laws now that you know, people who are second amendment fanatics are go bananas over like gun waiting periods, getting rid of, sir, an assault weapons. Yeah, no guns man, and he was. He was not. He was not good on guns. Second amendment. I wasn't good on guns in California when he was there and probably because of things like the Black Panthers and the sort of revolutionary factions of the sixties. And he certainly wasn't great as a as president on guns though. I don't think I don't think there was any real trying to think. I think in eighty six actually automatically automatic weapons were banned. So he was part of that, but I think that that's something that most even gun owners is. Okay. Well, this, I guess, get as as as we come up more to the common common or current moment and whatnot. I'm curious it seems going back and reading through your book. A lot of the stuff that a lot of conservative Republicans believed say in the mid eighties or even in the early nineties. Now they would be considered nuts. I adjust yesterday. The actress. Jamie Lee Curtis had was she got trolled by somebody at Fox News who said, oh, in the new version of Halloween, she her character is a gun to apparently finally once and for all kill Michael Myers, you know, lowered be hope. We never have to say another Halloween movie, but this guy had pointed out that she's in favor of bunch of gun control education. She came back and said, hey, I fully support the second amendment, but I believe in all of these things that limit, you know, the current understanding the amendment, like waiting periods, etc. Where like, where do we go? If in a in a hyper polarized debate to get some clarity about like, okay, you know what? We consider the proper reading of the second amendment. You know is it seems to be very historically contingent, and at some point you have people who were in the NRA saying, we want this type of restriction and now they're saying anybody who wants kind of restriction is, you know, is a title gun grabber. I think that's second amendment advocates have have changed their position in the sense that they feel like there's some kind of incremental push to to grab gun. So yeah, you wanna, bam, bump stocks. But if I give you that, I know you're just going to go onto the next thing. And that's probably more like the abortion debate or any other debate we're having. So I think that's what they feel. And I think they have a very good reason to to feel that if you think about think it was like two years ago, there was a sit in in congress where Democrats want it to pass a Bill to band anyone who was on a secret government terror watch lists from owning a gun. I mean, that's an assault on the second. Fourth, fifth amendment. So though, even though I'm not sure they were serious about passing that, but the the point is they're they're not paranoid to think that people wanna take their guns. I mean, when you had this after parkland, you had a CNN show or you know, I don't know what it was, but people were cheering for banning semiautomatic weapons, which are like the majority of weapons people own so that that's why they're nervous. I think that when I'm talking about the second amendment, I care of another reason I called the book. First freedom is because how you view the second amendment, I think, says a lot about how you view individual freedom. Now, that's not to say you don't wanna ban automatic weapons or have some sort of safety regulations, things like that. But if you believe that person should have to go to the state to ask to protect their family, their property themselves, and you don't really believe in individual rights that is the key individual, right? You don't have Republican government without that sort of ideology or philosophy. So all I can say is, I guess you'd have to, you'd have to take each separately and see what they're about. Well, and now and just a go to, well, let's finish up by looking at one of these odd paradoxes where you at various points in American history. There was rising fear of guns, even though crime wasn't going up. And now we're in one of these moments since the night since the mid nineties violent crime, and particularly crime committed by guns has been. Going down and down even as more and more guns in circulation. And we're talking about this, tell us how we got to a point though, also where starting in the nineties really gun laws mostly at the state level, and then more recently at the federal level, but they were gun. Laws were liberalized so right. It became easier for more people to buy more guns under more circumstances and carry them wherever they want, what what went on there because it seemed to be going on right at the point where everybody was flipping out over gun violence. I think part of his conservatives were just winning the debate and and winning seats and be able to pass laws and, and in the ninety s at least my memory of the nineties that you felt the crime was in. You felt like I was in New York. New York was bet much better at had been better than when I was a kid. There was less crime and people were scared of guns. Today, people are more scared of guns, even though crime has fallen, and as you mentioned, and there's been a spike in gun ownership though the level of people who actually own guns is pretty. Much the same despite the fact that like hunting where most people were hunters who had guns that has dropped. People don't hunt anymore as much, but yet people own guns for his hobbyists and also for self protection. But I think that has a lot to do with other things how we live. We live every tragedy in real time together on social media. It creates. We panic over everything they used to be, you know, a single story day, maybe in a new cycle or maybe once every week. And now there's five every day, and we experienced all these things together and we see them in real time. I think that makes scarce people. I have kids in school. I'm scared for them even though I know shootings have been are less than they used to be. So I think that has more to do with it. And as I rented another book, you know, voters aren't rational. I mean, they believe all kinds of things that aren't true. It depends who's pushing the narrative. I guess you know how, how do you think gun the kind of position towards guns the something when you have somebody like Donald Trump. Trump running the leading the country and leading the Republican party. He'd been kind of liberal Democrat from New York who did not seem to be particularly, you know, libertarian and his second amendment. You know thoughts beforehand is he is he a reliable ally of a broad second amendment rights, or is he of flip floppy guy? And do you see the Republicans? I guess, you know, here's one of the questions is you know it just in the past couple years, we've seen the Republicans reject free trade. We've seen the Republicans move completely away from immigration. The idea of having immigrants come here, etc. I mean as possible that Trump could lead them if suddenly he wakes up and says, I, you know, we gotta get rid of these guns assist knots. Well, I wouldn't be surprised if he did that. I don't think he has any sort of consistent ideology. Certainly not on guns. I think he's done a great thing for guns with his supreme court justices who are probably uphold Heller McDonald and things like that. So, and I don't know the guns are the sort of thing that he would flip on meaning. I don't know that his supporters were flip on it simply because the things you just mentioned like free trade and immigration, or sort of populist sort of pseudo patriotic positions about America that probably aren't fully thought through, but still make some sense together, whereas guns, I don't. I don't really see that changing among the Americans who are his fans, at least. And I think he does. What what is fans on to do? Do you find is the representation of the gun kind of an broad sense in a in a way? I mean, the the book, one of the real, I think, you know, highlights of it is like it's, you know, a subtitle of ride through America's enduring history with the gun is the gun still mostly a positive figure in our popular culture. And you know this, this becomes fascinating. When you start to think about race. And I can agree in the same way that Reagan was probably scared by the if if it had been the the white Panthers, he might not have been so worried but a Black Panthers. But you see in in a lot of rap and hip hop, they're still romance of the gun which used to be the province of, you know, kind of doughy you know, white actors from Hollywood is the gun still an enduring emblem of what it means to be America or gesture towards individualism and self reliance and things like that. Or is it more contested now? I think it's more contested. I don't even think anyone would have entertained any sort of gun control before the thirty certainly in the seventies it change. But now you have sort of a third generation of people who are don't understand the history gun or care for guns or want guns in their neighborhood. So I, I mean, I think that the views of the public are far more complicated than polls. Bear out. So you ask someone you pro gun anti gun and you give some dumb answer. But I think that a lot of people in America even liberals still, you know. You know, I was in Colorado for many years. Many liberals there had guns. I think they're they're more libertarian about that sort of thing for lack of a better word than people in New York or east coast urban places. So I think, yes, I think it's going to be more become more partisan. I don't think it's the same as it was, but there were still four hundred million or something like that guns at an American. Those don't go away. And there is still some tradition and it's a continuum, you know? So if you take a narrow view of history and just for few years, it looks bad. But I think when you look at broader look, never know what's going to happen in ten years. I think people hopefully will still be a big part of American culture though. Not certainly not the same as it was in the nineteenth century. All right. Well, we will leave it there. We've been talking with David her son. He's a senior editor at federalist syndicated columnists and the author of the excellent and engrossing new book. First freedom a ride through America's enduring history with the gun. David. Thanks for talking. Thanks for having me. This has been the reason podcasts. I've been your hosts Nicolette Spey. Please subscribe to said I tunes at Google play at reason. Dot com and rate and review as wherever you find us. Thanks for listening.

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Trumps Secret Weapon (Ep 1176)

The Dan Bongino Show

1:01:02 hr | 1 year ago

Trumps Secret Weapon (Ep 1176)

"Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host. Dan Bongino on Gino. Some of the people here have been incredible. Warriors the warriors and there's nothing from a legal standpoint. This is a political political thing and every time. I'd say this is unfair. Let's go to court. They say so. You can't go to court. This is politics and we were treated unbelievably unfairly unfairly. And you have to understand we. I went through Russia Russia Russia it was all Bush both okay. The verdict is in. It was all listen folks up you know. I have a friend of mine. WHO's a former police detective? He is a no. Bs kind of guy. He texted me yesterday. He's like this may be the greatest press conference ever. Do you understand like this is where the Democrats keep blowing it in the media like this is what everybody loves about President Trump. He talks like we talk and he gets upset when we get upset and he doesn't sit back and take the BS that the Democrats have lobbed at us with the media for what fifty or sixty years now while we casually casually sat back and took it said no no no let everybody take the high road we need to be the better people. I'm done with the hardest more high road when the Democrats want to take the high road in the medium. AMP civil again. It stop accusing the president states of being a traitor and a Russian asset. Then maybe we'll join him on the hybrid tool venue. Capanna Bay wet one on my caboose. Welcome to the Dan Bongino show. Joe How are you today. It's Friday it is Friday. Thank you for that open. I need that because it is Friday eh reporting so far ladies and Gentlemen I WanNa get to this. I've got a loaded show free today. Everyone who emailed me yesterday fascinated by all the shady connections now between the clean it ends this Russian Intel project and that new story. 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It's backed by signs. Don't let muscle soreness continue to be an excuse for living an active lifestyle going to Max. Health Dot Com Promo Bongino and feel relief. Best all right Joe. Let's let's go all right. Joe Sharp on the trigger finger there with the button. You'll get the inside joke there so as we said this is what people love about President trump ladies and gentleman. He is a fighter. The left pokes fun at us. Because we say that you guys think president trump is a fighter. Well you guys can continue to lose elections to them because that's exactly why people supportive support. That's who he is. Yeah he's a brawler. He's a street brawler and he always has been and it's interesting because Peggy Noonan had a piece up at the Wall Street Journal this morning. And listen I like I peggy a lot She's been around a long time. She was a speech writer Ronald Reagan and she's been she writes. Very pieces are very very eloquent. Awkward there well done. I don't really agree with her a lot on things I mean. She really dislikes the president. She sees the president as being unpresidential and she's into kind of the pageantry intrigue the office so she wrote this piece at the Wall Street Journal which is designed to take a shot at the Democrats. Peggy Noonan Wall Street Journal. Today Headline the Democrats Unserious Week now how to take shots at the Democrats for their absolute disaster meltdown. At the caucuses. Ladies and Gentlemen Joe Show we're going to have a result in the presidential. Is it election before we have an actual result of the Iowa caucus which is quite hilarious. That's not funny. No it is. It's HILARIOUS DEMOCRATS WHO WANNA plan our economy. It's crazy and our healthcare system can't even count votes in the Iowa Caucus. We could said big bird from sesame street out there to help them. We Jay's advocates. Send them an advocate. Aj Go send an abacus out to the Democrats in Iowa. They want to figure that out. You're right what do you do here. So so the gist of the article is this. She's taking shots at the Democrats for two things. They're complete collapse in the Iowa caucus to show any elements of serious at all. They can't even count votes seconded by Nancy. Pelosi's abominable performance at the State of the Union. where she completely collapses and melts down starts making faces rips rips the state of the Union speech now she takes a shot at trump there too and she says well you know trump's not presidential basically either and again with all due respect to Peggy Ladies and gentlemen? I'm not buying this argument at all. I think the gift of Donald Trump. And what's really going on here. It's been a profound dismantling of the myth of the competent Super Scientific Ryan typic- planning based government can figure out your life. I thanked trump for that. You may call them unpresidential. I don't buy that routine at all. President trump talks like one of us because he is one of us and the idea that we're supposed to treat the president with Barack Obama. George W Bush Bill Clinton or anyone else soon as these superhumans not subject into gluttony rage anger envy and the seven deadly sins. We're all subjected to and that we should then because they are these superhumans give them power to Lord over our lives our economy our kids education. Our business do red tape our our healthcare system to keep us alive the idea that these hooper competent people that we should trust them with our lives. It's been entirely dismantled and I I'm not kidding. And I- credit the President President for assisting in dismantling the myth and exposing who the wizard really is. As Jordan Peterson. A really terrific writer writes in one one of his books. Ladies Gentlemen the powers with us. Clean your own room. I A good friend of mine. Thomas once said we're the leaders we've been waiting for we. We asked US where conservatives we believe in the power of the individual and the family these small units that God is empowered with strong bodies and strong minds. I gotta we. We don't try to wax philosophical today. Just here to tell you that I think Peggy's article taking a shot at trump for being unpresidential and then taking a shot at the Democrats to. I think they both did us a favor. Nancy Pelosi exposed this exposed to the Democrats. How small petulant and tiny they really are and president trump talks like a normal person showing you that the president is just a normal? I like everyone else. Stop entrusting these people with the power to Lord over your lives. The gift that trump is he gives you back a lot of your own money. Do Tax cuts the gift. The trump is that he's giving back families the power to school choice which you made a focus of his State of the Union address to pick for the rookie. Pick for you. He doesn't want to spend your money for you now if we could get them to sign onto the big cuts in this government budget everything would be peachy creep all right moving on so you got a lot to get through to want to go anywhere. Peggy Noonan asks in the piece which is important Joe Question I wanNA post you. Do you think this we we could get any worse for the Democrats well the Iowa Caucus meltdowns been a total joke yeah. Nancy Pelosi humiliated herself in our Party. And listen I don't care what the radical left tells you. Nancy Super Nancy there on twitter. Hashtag Nancy's the past. We Love Nancy script. She looked ridiculous. President trump gave a tour to four speech and she sat there pouting outing like a child. She looked outrageously ridiculous. I don't care what anybody tells you. So can this week at any worse. Well before we came on the air this morning can it this week got a lot worse. Now I've got practices. Look at yes I had some practice again. Joe Snows the inside joke. Verdy down this okay. They'll tell you that story another time practice. What am I looking at right here? YouTube dot com slash bungee. If you WANNA watch this show but don't worry audio listeners. What I have up on the screen right now is the jobs? Report came out this morning piece by the Wall Street Journal Wall Street Journal Central Banking. US Economy Ed's two hundred twenty five thousand jobs the hand ury wages and the labor force participation rate is up. Joe This is an explosive number folks I never get hyperbolic about the economy. The government spending too much. I'm worried about a lot of things. But this is an explosive number. This is indications of a flourishing job market job market so good the unemployment rate went up. Well Dan appointment. What do you mean did you screw that up? No it's not a screw up. The unemployment rate went up to three point six percent because so many people who were not looking for work who weren't counted in the unemployment rate in the past because they're not looking are are now piling back into this explosive job market at are now being counted as job seekers so many of them that they're even overpowering the massive number of people people who got jobs in January. So this is a tumor. More people are getting jobs. Two hundred twenty five thousand jobs in January and because they're neighbors are getting jobs house people who are like I'm not working anymore who are probably on government benefits or some social program are now saying you know what maybe I should start looking for work to which is actually taking the unemployment rate up. Pull little bit because now they're being counted in the fraction. So the answer to the question I ask Joe which was not a trick. Can this week at any worse for the Democrats is a resounding. Oh Yes oh Yes dan yeah now I am. Listening to new cycles. Goes quick and I want to get bollock. When it comes to prediction? The new cycle could change next week and people could forget about. I'm just telling you what this data point in time. The the Democrats are in a world of trouble. There's no way around it. Ladies and gentlemen not all right lot more to get to today folks. Please stay tuned. I want you to miss anything in the show today. So one of the things I covered yesterday were these absolutely frightening. Connections between the Clintons. Spy Gate plotters but I want to put it under the banner. That's easy to understand that I've been using this line repeatedly at a starter resonate with a lot of you out there. Some of you posted on my facebook who've been emailing me and it's this headline they all know each other these deep stairs. All of them. They're all connected again. I know that's not surprising to you. But it's part two with that matters they all know each other and they are all hiding something and by hiding something I mean. They did things that they don't. Don't want the trump administration God forbid and a first or second term where you just have to worry about reelection to uncover because when the American people see what they're hiding it's it's going to be disturbing now. What I mentioned yesterday is they are desperate to shut up anybody who touched this skoko project in Russia it it was a very simply a Russian technology project? They tried to emulate Silicon Valley over in Russia and our own intelligence officials which walked again slowly. Because I've got another cherry on top of this thing for you. Today I wrote intelligence officials discovered later that this technology project in Russia was really an effort to to steal our technology by the Russians to create weapons using that technology. Yes to kill us now. If you say well that sounds really bad. That's because it is. Yeah that's really big Joe. Now let's walk through the solely because I want a pile on a little bit hat tip to a source of mine. Who gave this to me yesterday? which kind of adding to this yesterday? So showing you. How deeply tied the Democrats? That's some deep state. Republicans and others are to this Costco Project and these deep status. Don't want any of this to get out. I WANNA walk through what we went to yesterday. First piece from Salon Dot Com. This is important because it's going to set up just how bad the ties between these people and as I always say follow the money from Salon. John Dot Com. They had this piece of exposes the Panama Papers and we find out from this piece that Michael isikoff reported. Note that two of Clinton's biggest lobbyists blunders the Clinton Lipton family. They had these two lobbyists and bond who are raising money for the Clinton guys. By the name of Richard Sullivan David Jones our principles and affirm that until late last year represented presented the Russian Direct Investment Fund a sovereign fund founded by Vladimir Putin. Everybody clear to Clinton Michaelides fundraisers money people Sullivan Donovan. Jones were also involved with this firm that represented Russia's sovereign wealth fund co founded by Vladimir Putin. Kinda strange page nine trump was guilty of Russian. Collusion oh I told you I'd tell you what they're hiding moving on so now. We know these people raising money with the Clintons these lobbyists bond and there's no them are working with this Russian direct investment fund managed by Putin. Here's the Russian direct investment funds own website. Where we find out that they were partnered up with skulk of Oh oh sounds kind of like I have the power you need that you need castle grace skull in this so the Russian direct investment fund is partnered up with Skoko talk about this technology project in Russia this technology quarter which has been alleged stealing our technology to create weapons to kill us so Clinton lobbyists others are associated with a firm represented this direct investment fund associated with the skulk of all projects? The owner of technology. Yet crazy. How this all happened? They all know each other. And they're all hiding something weird crazy Diana West. I put it this piece up yesterday from the daily caller. Go through this quick. Come up repeating yesterday's show for no reason. I just WANNA make sure. We're all grounded because this is a complicated story but not when we lay it out simply so the Russian direct investment firm Rep by these Clinton Lobbyist butlers is is associated with Skoko and Skoko is what well if you read Diana West piece. It's in yesterday's show notes Bongino Dot com slash newsletter. If you WANNA get the show delivered to your email box Hillary's hypersonic missile gap by analysts. Let's go to screen shot one from that piece where we find out that Skoko did what no way this. This is an army intelligence brief from twenty twelve. US Army not rushing are US United States for the Liberals listening so they found out. That skoko isn't Skolko. VAM vicious enterprise aiming to promote technology transfer generally by inbound direct investment and occasionally selected acquisitions. Wow that sounds nice ask such skoko is arguably way we let me read this rate. My getting bad as such skoko is arguably an overt alternative to clandestine stood industrial espionage with the additional distinction that it can achieve such a transfer on a much larger scale and more efficiently. Wow so the US armie you died as dot the US army was worried that the scope of our project associated with Russian Investment Fund tied to these Clinton bundlers could be stealing our technology and creating really bad stuff. That could kill us no way as Diana West goes on at her piece. Strange that Bill Clinton wanted to go meet on a trip over to Russia paid for by this Russian bank which was associated with the uranium. One Deal Hillary Clinton approved steel. Our uranium. Yeah that's kind of crazy. Clinton wanted to meet with this Guy Victor Berg when he went over to take that five hundred thousand dollars a speech in Russia. Bill Clinton and who's vexed Berg crazy but he's an executive at Skulk Oval. WHOA ooh that's just nuts? So Clinton Lobbyists Bundlers Rep this direct investment fund in Russia which is partnered up with skolko run by Berg and others. Clinton wants to meet with Vicksburg Bill Clinton in Moscow and he goes to Moscow because a Moscow bank renaissance capital title. Pushing the uranium. One is paying bill five hundred thousand dollars to speak there while his wife State Department. Hillary Clinton is looking over the uranium one deal last part of the Dan Westby skiing. We went through this yesterday but this is important so the examiner has easy meals that are shocking about Skoko and they show that the Russian technology projects spoke of always championed and driven. By Mrs Clinton she seemed to love. SKOLKO COCO. And what are you know. Seventeen of the twenty eight tech companies that hitched up with Skoko also contributed to the the Clinton Foundation. My Gosh what are the chances that could happen to follow the money folks. I'm seriously considering writing another book. I know I said I wouldn't because I have so many projects going on but seriously I'm seriously considering writing another book about this stuff because connections are so incredible edible. You'RE GONNA need it in a manifesto. This gets better. Let me show you a facebook book. Post from Skulk Abo- Yes the Russian technology project designed to steal our technology to create weapons to kill us is an actual facebook post the SKOKO Skoko Foundation facebook former Intel the US company Intel former Intel President Craig Barrett Craig Barrett the need for Skolko and Skoko Institute of Science. Technology is more important now than ever with the world economy slowing down. Innovation and entrepreneurship are more important than they have ever been. So this guy crazy which is funny by the way at the bottom of the facebook post you see an article from Skoko again. Vex Oberg we're ready for skulk Vo two Max Berg The guy who was going to meet with Bill Clinton on the trip to Moscow paid for by the bank pushing the uranium one deal while Hillary was the State Department that this secretary. I think this is crazy. This is great this is club. We didn't move diagrams so Craig Barrett Intel from the they. They make the chips and stuff. What was he doing over there? Remember Ladies Gentlemen these elites and these these these folks out there in the swamp. They're they're all the smart ones and we're all idiots. Surely this Guy Craig. Bear wasn't involved with a Russian technology project at the FBI and others were warning about smart for that definitely. Yeah come on definitely John. Let's go to Washington free beacon piece from two thousand sixteen which will be in the show notes. Oh today again Bongino dot com slash newsletter. I'll email this right theory mailbox. You need to read this article from two thousand sixteen by Natalie. Johnson awesome at the Washington Free Beacon. You need to read this report. Russian government initiative gave millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation. Obviously it's about Skoko now. Let's look at this clearly. This Guy Craig. Barrett wasn't involved with this project. That could have been stealing on our stuff right. Well let's go to the Washington. Free Beacon piece. Wow apparently it wasn't only a- Craig Barrett but John Chambers of Cisco and a member of the skoko foundation donated between one and five million to the Clinton Foundation. Oh my gosh. What are the chances that Intel formerly headed by Craig Barrett who served on on the border Skoko and the Clinton Global Initiative has given between two hundred fifty and five hundred thousand of the Clinton Foundation? Really the piece goes on. Oh does it go on quote the FBI and the US Army determined that Skoko had transformed into into a quote dangerous pathway for Russian technial technological espionage this is unbelievable and boosted the military's technological of capabilities. Many SKOKO research project used dual use technologies meaning. The operations have both civilian and military uses. The reports sent final paragraph paragraph. Quick amongst coca those technological. Innovations were Russian hypersonic cruise missile engines radar surveillance equipment equipment and vehicles built to deliver airborne. Russian troops. Peter Schweitzer wrote in The Wall Street Journal at Peter Schweitzer so Craig Barrett from Intel. And this other guy from Cisco are involved with the Clintons are heavy donors also involved solve with this Skoko vote project that the FBI has repeatedly warned is a front to steal our technology to create weapons to kill us. While it's partnered with the Russian Direct Investment Fund Rep by people involved in a company who were Clinton Lobbyists bundlers while Hillary Hillary Clinton was pushing companies to join Skoko Hillary Clinton she was supposed to re read representing American interests. While some of those companies seventeen out of the twenty eight that went over there donated to the Clinton Foundation. Now folks to be fair here. I don't know Craig Barrett's motives but you think this would have been a red flag the FBI and US army warnings. This isn't just Democrats. I don't know the party affiliation. I'm not interested but you are never going to believe who Craig Barrett is married to get ready for this one. Put up this article from there. What is it easy central? If this doesn't Piss you off I don't know what will Senate Confirms Arizona's Barbara Barrett as the next Air Force secretary. Aw Come on come on nothing. That's his wife Airf- therefore aren't we starting to way just so we're clear on this. Yeah Disa- were clear on this Craig Barrett who was involved with the SKOKO project who the FBI in US army have worn the government. They're stealing our technology to create missiles that can evade our missile defense system which are air forces now probably probably trying to develop technologies to counter the Russian hypersonic missiles using technology. They stole for us. The effort is being led by these guys wife was involved with Skoko. Go to hell. I Yeah I have no explanation ladies and gentlemen for why anybody would. Did you miss this. Do you think the Dan Bongino show fat. This stuff we're giving to you. Ladies and gentlemen is all out on the open Internet. Why do you think we put together the Youtube Channel again YouTube dot com slash? Bongino if you WANNA watch. Why do you think we did this? We did this so I could show you. Visually soundbites soundbites and snapshots could show you that. This stuff is all on the Internet you can find. Nobody knew this a SNOB. It's all a conspiracy Baresi theory. Yeah sure folks he gets better. I want you to purchase this better. It gets worse. Just hang for a second because on the other end of this I'm going to show you. Who Else was associated with skoko including the Clintons? These spouse of our Air Force secretary who else was associated with Skoko and how skoko ties to spy gate and everything. You're seeing now cookie today. Show also brought to you by our good friends. I WANNA welcome aboard to the show. Our friends at blue by pieters easy get blue vine dot com slash Bongino Blue Vine. Ladies and gentlemen. You want to check them out today. Running businesses is enough of a challenge. Securing extra cash flow doesn't have to be through Blue Vine. 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It's easy and it will provide meaningful help your business in as little as twenty four hours very easy to use this promotional offers subject to terms and conditions and that can be found at get blue vine dot com slash. Bongino go today. Don't be left behind in your business. Okay so getting back this. I think we've reasonably established here and folks to be clear I want it. I want you to understand what I'm doing because I'm not a Democrat and please don't ever call me a journalist because that would be insult we actually do news here in facts. I don't know these people's motives I'm not by any stretch accusing them of breaking any criminal. Laws I WANNA be clear and then it's not some disclaimer. It's just the fact you'd be responsible. I'm simply suggesting to you that what's out there. If you're willing to to see it is a network of people all seemingly aligned against president trump's interest who all know each other are financially connected to each other and and are clearly hiding something whether that's something is criminal investigators. I hope we'll find out one day or if it's not but the unethical unethical. Swampy elicit kind of nature of this is definitely worth taking an extremely hard look at. So now we know. Clinton bundlers Clintonistas Clinton companies that donated the Clinton Foundation all associated with this Russian project. And SKOKO where they're for stealing technology to invent weapons to kill us which I find fascinating. Who else was involved in this? Check this out. Here's a Russia beyond article. This is going to. I mean if it can't get any worse all out there for anyone to see Russia beyond Skoko Foundation switches hands quote the former minister of Education. Concurrent presidential aide for Shinco has been appointed to replace Deputy Prime Minister of Laddis Vladislav Circa as supervisors at Sococo so. This is from twenty thirteen. who was running skoko disguise? Surkov Surkov Radislav Circle Wherever you heard this name before. Well he's President Putin's architect that was his nickname Putin's various campaigns remember. Yeah I remember that name Surkov so now we know Surkov was involved involved in skulk of Ot. You may say Dan. You said you were going to connect this to the whole spy gate trauma. How did that happen? skoko spy gate. Uranium one banks paying Clinton involving what uranium one while Clinton goes over to meet with expert running the skulk of old project. Well let's look at this little note pad here. What is assist notepad? What is that? That's all I know. Pets not even my handwriting. That is the notepad of one Kathleen Cavaliers at the State Department. Yes the State Department run formerly by Hillary Clinton when she was secretary of State. He's handwritten notes you looking at and in those handwritten notes. She's taking notes based on an interview. She's having with coup. Oh Christopher Christopher Steele Christopher Steele. You mean the guy who allegedly wrote the fake dossier use the target president trump. Yes that Christopher Steele not the man of steel not Clark. Kent can't Christopher Steele and in those handwritten note she has this. Just Kinda nutty. Wow this is what those mind-blowing won't with where Christopher Steele tells her who were you who is sources are for the whole takedown trump fake Russian collusion narrative. That's been exposed as a legendary very hoax. And who does he say. Well if you notice right below that circle there you see it's two sources are Russian Intel Guy yes one of the head of the Russian Russian Intel Agencies Start Your mic off and right below that in really awful penmanship you see the name Cirque off can possibly be yes sid can. Because that's who steal saying sources were so you're telling me Vladislav Surkov the guy involved in the Skoko project stealing feeling our technology that Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton promoted tied to Craig Barrett who was a donor to the Clinton Foundation. Shen whose wife is out of the Air Force secretary that that project was being run by a guy named Surkov that Mrs Clinton's paid political hatchet man Christopher Steele Jio who put together the fake dossier used to spy on trump that that Surkov that guy running scope vote was allegedly steal sources. I'm just telling you what Steele said at Para fate. They're really steals lying because where you can't have it both ways either your Christopher Steele source. What's that Hillary Clinton paid for to SPY ON DONALD TRUMP is entirely full of crap and you weaponize the FBI the CIA to spy on Donald Trump and his campaign to pay both here and overseas based on a source you knew was crap as just lying about circle or number two? He's not lying and Christopher or steal is now admitting that he used the Russians to collude to create a fake dossier. You can't have. There's no option C.. Either Christopher Steele is telling the truth Earth and the what Vladimir Putin's architects and a guy involved with a Russian technology project he was colluding with him to create a fake dossier to spy on a presidential oh campaign in the United States or Christopher feels completely lying about his Russian sources and they use the fake documents to spy on the United States Senate campaign. There's no option C.. Makes you kinda wonder if Surkov was whether do a third party or directly WANNA steal sources meaning meaning that he talked directly to steal it. He talked to someone who talked to steal. Did he talk to Trubnikov. talked to steal because you know Trubnikov new halpern helper they were buddies halpern whose helper helper the guy who spied for the FBI and the trump team member that the guy who was emailing Carter page tried up Popadopoulos and page remember that. Remember that guy. He's TRIPTYCH TRIPTYCH offices buddied. You know that makes you wonder. If Surkov wasn't fact the source for steel. What was he up to? Skoko guy got moved out of skoko supposedly Putin was a little mad atom stories. A little deeper than you thought as my grandmother used to say God rest or soul. Eileen Sadler greatest woman I ever met. That was my other grandmother. Not The one recently passed but she used to say I says as I says everybody's got something to to hide. They all know each other. They all claim to know each other if they don't know each other they're lying which is even worse. Money has exchanged hands here. And they're hiding the the fact that if Christopher Steele story is true they in fact colluded with the Russians probably to hide what was going on and Skulk Abo- to get rid of Donald Trump knowing donald trump will become president. One day I find this out. It gets better folks as always so the whole basis for the fake Russian collusion narrative was the steele dossier. Ah Christopher Steele claiming he used cirque off the former Skoko had is a source. The steele dossier is a hoax. It's fake none of the information is accurate. It it's garbage. It's not even worthy to be used as the basis for the trump team collude with Ukrainian scam was not the steele dossier. Folks many pieces of John Salman a great report out so so the Russian collusion scam was based on the steele dossier. The basis for their argument the left that Oh trump with the Ukrainians quid pro quo with the census. All all the stuff started with the passing of a Black Black Ledger to our government through Democrat operatives. What was the Black Ledger? The Black Ledger was allegedly. A copy of a series of cash payments made the trump's former campaign manager Paul Manafort who's now obviously subject to This massive criminal investigation. Where he's been? I mean it's unbelievable. What's happening happen in a matter? For but you understand that investigators Gatien started because Ukrainians notably Sir Hey Lukashenko and others associated with him are alleged to pass that Black Ledger Edgier to people in the United States saying hey look at these illegal cash payments may demand for it. Everybody track that Joe. You got your idea. That was the whole basis of the trump and his team or engage in this stuff in Ukraine. The Black Ledger Black Ledger. John Solomon has an explosive new piece in the show notes that you have to read set his new website just the news check it out again. Bongino DOT com slash newsletter. If you want to read it key witness told t muller that. The Russian collusion evidence found in Ukraine was fabricated. Aided folks this is this is incredible so now now do we. We don't only know that the steele dossier was a total hoax a complete fabrication. We know the whole basis to look into Manafort for Ukraine which was based on these blackledge. Look at this ledger. That cash payments meet the MANAFORT. Get a load of this muller knew from the start this crap to according to Rick Gates in an interview. He gave them the Black Ledger document which suddenly appeared in Kiev during the two thousand. Sixteen scene election. Wow convenient timing. There showed alleged cash payments from russian-backed politicians in Ukraine to X. Trump campaign manager Paul manafort. The ledger was completely Lee. Made up cooperating witness metaphor business partner Rick Gates told prosecutors and FBI agents completely made up in a brief interview with just the news gates. Confirm the information in the summary. The Black Ledger was a fabrication gates. said it was never real and this fact has been proven true. It was not in the account handwriting. They they had no records of these cash payments. At all ladies and gentlemen it was a hoax so you may say. How does this tie into the everybody knows each other? And everybody's hiding something. Well I told you what they're hiding with the Russian collusion steele dossier the steele dossier. It was a hoax designed to switcher attention from what the Democrats are hiding. which is there collusion with Russia on the SKOKO project the Democrats are hiding with the impeachment? Scam which is now over. And the trump did devolved into a quid pro quo. With Ukrainian to investigate him is if the Democrats collusion with Ukrainians to create a fake piece of evidence submitted into the US justice system which was later uses is a predicate to target Paul Manafort who has now been convicted of a crime initiated on an investigation based on another hoax. The Democrats colluded with the Ukrainians and everybody serious people know it clowns in the media. Continue to ignore it now folks. I've asked you before I'll ask you again. If you don't mind humbly requests you pick up my second book on this exonerated available on Amazon and Barnes and noble because we go into this in detail and it's important. My book exonerated talks about how they tried all this before especially on McCain and other campaigns. It's going to be important if I decide to write a trilogy and a third book on this because that's going to be the theme of this follow the money and they've tried this before you pick up exonerated. 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Then you keep talking about some of your top before because it just keeps getting better this red state article article which you can see in yesterday's show knows and it is about the fake whistle blower colluding with this guy. Sean Moscow in January of twenty seventeen and over her talking about a plan to remove president trump from office bred st colleagues overheard. We have to youtube censor this of course fake whistle blower and Sean Miss go discussing passing how to remove trump from office. It's a great piece so follow me here. I'm not fake whistleblower. Who made the complaint? To the Inspector General Michael Atkinson who conveniently worked in the Justice Department that spied on President Trump. which was run? Division by Giancarlo was Bob Schieffer said but we leave that for yesterday's show the fake aac whistleblower who made the complaint about President Trump about a quid pro quo. When this call that never happened by the way so it was a fake whistle blower? Because there's nothing to blow the whistle on. It's crazy that January twenty seventeen. He was overheard by colleagues talk. January twenty remember that January twenty. He was overheard by collies. Talking with this. This Guy Sean. Moscow on the national security. Who now is working for Adam? Schiff again I'm sure it's just the big winky dink right there about how to get rid of this president. You know what's really bogs here. I'm GONNA hat tip one of our listeners. Do this up on my facebook page. Here's a tweet from this attorney. Of course Joe totally unrelated to tweet this attorney Mark Zaid's in January of twenty seventeen right as these two guys involved in the fake whistleblower complaint are talking about basically a coup to get president trump out of office so right around the same time this guy mark responding to a tweet by Jake. Tapper says quote the coup has started the first of many steps Joe Hashtag rebellion saints such vote. He's such wusses. They think they're in a movie. Hashtag impeachment will follow ultimately Hashtag lawyers such frauds. Listen I hang around my entire life life around genuine tough guys. I'm serious. I'm not telling you I'm a tough guy. I'm not interested. I'm not there's always someone tougher. I'm just saying like legit. Spent a lot of my time around people who really fight for a living and her super tough. Yeah these guys are not in the empire strikes back or something valley and whatevs dude. Now Joe let me just ask him and oppose us in the form of a question again. Yeah Dude wouldn't it be insane like bugs bunny looney Ludi tunes time if the same lawyer who tweeted in January two thousand seventeen that many steps were to follow. The coup has begun. There's a rebellion. Impeachment is going to happen in January of two zero one seven yeah right as the fake whistleblower and Moscow working for Adam Schiff now are plotting to Overthrow the president. Wouldn't it be absolutely bonkers. If that guy was their lawyer be will really weird ago. Yes Yeah Elmer Tanks Helmer. There's no way that could be accepted is of course. Here's a Fox News hat tip. Greg read this. Great reporting coup is started Jordan. The whistle blowers attorney said 2017 posts calling for impeachment. I am not kidding. Look at the screen shot from this piece. I am not messing with you. Convenient timing no this is the lawyer. Mark Zayd what are the attorneys representing me intelligence community. I'm GONNA throw in fake fake whistle blower our at the center of the Democrats impeachment inquiry tweeted conspicuously in January of two thousand. Seventeen Fatty Koo has started at impeachment will follow ultimately folks folks again. If we had a media even remotely interested in facts they would be digging through this like modern day. A A Watergate the Woodward and Bernstein folks that's right but they're not they're not if you're not watching this show you're not watching Hannity. You're not following Sarah Carter and John Solomon Jeff Carlson and Chuck Ross and Mollie. Hemingway and Sean Davis I mean the list is extensive extensive in too long decide on the show. You missing everything so a lawyer. Who represents the fake whistleblower blower tweets January of two thousand seventeen that a coup was started and that many steps will follow while at the same time? A colleague over. Here's the fake whistle blower and a guy now working for Adam Schiff talking about a coup. This is three years ago. Three years ago this was happening. Those tweets from January two thousand seventeen that conversation about the coup by the fake whistleblower is three years ago in January of two thousand seventeen. Please folks tell me again. How would the deep state isn't real deal? It's all a big conspiracy theory the swamp it's a talking point. They all know each other. They they are all hiding something. The fake whistle blower was Joe. Biden's point man on Ukraine. Yeah the same Ukraine Joe. Biden's kid got got a job with no experience paying eighty three thousand dollars a month. The same year in two thousand fourteen Biden was out in public openly. Talking about it we was going broke. Wasn't going broke after that. The Biden family so sad. You know just quickly because I do have a lot to get through still even now to all all of you out. There sanitation workers correction officers architects truck drivers electricity. I say steam team fitters and ten knockers. Because my brother a union electrician and the always love those names for the unions. They're all you people. Work for a living is a serious question. I'm messing with you here. Are you not embarrassed that these complete losers these greedy envious gluttonous slobs swamp Brat Junkies who are addicted to fix of being empowering cash in their big checks. Aren't you embarrassed that they have power over our lives they are and you know. I hate the word literally because it is literally the most overused word in the English language and used inappropriately. They are literally the worst of us. They are greedy gluttonous Matz. Who will do anything to stay in power and cash a check at our expense spence while we go out there and make this country actually run the medicine keeping you alive the food keeping can you sustain the clean water out of your pipes making sure you don't die of thirst? The teacher's teaching your kids. They're the people people that make this country run and yet in government. That's supposed to work for us. We worked for these idiots. The coup is started. How do we overthrow the president? We pick a fake whistle blower this fake whistleblower. This guy guy gets to decide but his buddy and Adam Schiff office and a two bit lawyer while they're protecting a two bit vice president who's clearly covering up for his Kid who leveraged his dad's name to engage in a bunch of a elicit nonsense overseas to cash in at the tax payer expense. Because now we have to investigate this garbage embarrassed embarrassed you know. My the grandfather was a great man. Frank Bongino greatest man. I ever met. I`Ma Kidding about messing with I sat there when he died at Saint. John's Hospital on Queens Boulevard. Right across the street from Queens Center Mall One of the saddest days of my life and he was a proud man and look me in the eye and you know what he said to me. He said I need you to leave. I can't have you. You see me like this. And he died hours later. This guy fought in the battle of the bulge. What he never bragged about it one day in his life matter of fact he asked him about? He said I WANNA talk about. He owned a fish store in Harlem filleted fish whole life. We got to work for these Matz disgrace but a disgrace messing with you man. I'm serious really total freaking BS. This is greedy slobs. And I'm supposed to be clear so we can tie this up and you get emotional on your but right. I'm supposed to be upset. Joe Just to be clear on this. I'm supposed to be upset according to Peggy Noonan because Donald Trump said bolt yesterday. I'm supposed to be upset about that just to be clear that in my triage of needs trump. Who's draining this fetid stinking Sofer dominated swamp? It smells Dell's like rotten eggs. I'm supposed to be pissed because trump's calling bs on them hard pass again peggy. With all due respect seriously hard pass which abro which I know you are. That's the reason we work. So altogether sky works for a living to got the battle scars to prove it worked around real people doing real stuff getting up in the morning and going to work and it sucks and nobody likes getting up in the morning and putting on their damn works using going to work but we do it working for these matzos will be dude. Freakin this grace. It is so much stuff. I get two pages today all right quick. I want to wrap up the show but I had this the bunk section yesterday and get you but I do want to get to it today because Paula didn't I think I get through all this and I'm going to because I'm committed just three quick debunks I need for you. The bunking liberal is. It's always been one of the things we do on the show. So you're hearing now now that the trump economy is flourishing again that it's not due to the tax cuts because the tax cuts are only for the rich. I'm tired of this. It's a dump talking point but again in the interest of giving you the ammunition initiative you need to argue with some of your silly liberal friends. Don't know what they're talking about. Here's a piece for Americans for tax reform little snapshot from them showing that the tax cuts were in fact working for for the middle class but numbers do matter facts and data matter. I know not to liberals but they put up some interesting data here about how the tax cuts largely benefited the middle class. Ladies and gentlemen that the people who are making in the income bands from roughly forty to sixty thousand dollars are the ones benefiting largely from the tax cuts. That's not hard to figure out ladies and gentlemen the average American family making incomes and again forty two eight hundred forty two ninety looked. I'll just go. I'll quote the data point directly a family of four with an annual income. Seventy three thousand dollars median family income. We'll see a tax cut more than two thousand fifty eight dollars. That's a fifty percent reduction in federal taxes again. If you believe in data then the middle class got a significant tax if you believe in liberalism. I'm sorry look in the mirror and just kind of wonder what you're doing because you're getting bs by a single co parent with one child. We'll see significant tax cut as well so complicated folks. The data's right in front of you all you gotTa do is look at it. Secondly so first myth median family. Tax Cuts Thanksgiving for the rich so BS garbage. The second talking point during the election in race relations got so much trump's and racist race relations are often with the president trump. PJ media piece just the poll race relations have improved dramatically since president trump took office again. Ladies Jemma but don't let any of this getting away bad ideas and you're stupid narratives. They just took a poll and the Polish that this is by the way is in the show notes. You can read the articles yourself race. Relations have gotten better by the way. It's a Gallup poll case. You think it was a pole at Bongino dot com or something where we just like randomly put it on twitter satisfaction with race. Relations has increased fourteen percents. President Trump's inauguration again. Let's flush another liberal stupid narrative down the toilet bowl. Here's the last one interesting article from National Review. Of course you're going to hear during the campaign is you always especially with Bloomberg running now are as most powerful lobby in the world. They spent so much money to influence elections show. How many times have we? I heard that one probably for the last fifty sixty years. Yeah well. Here's David Harsanyi. WHO's really terrific National Review Mike Bloomberg versus the imaginary all powerful gun lobby numbers matter so of course if you're a liberal and you don't understand facts data and say well clearly the NRA spent so much money they by politicians thousands and everything? It's their money that really matters. Well let's do a quick comparison between the NRA and Michael Bloomberg quote David Harsanyi National Review. Let's put this listen perspective. Bloomberg has in just a few months of running for presidency paid attention Joe. This is really this even blew my mind. A messing with you. Blooberg is spent around two hundred million a few months in the Democratic primary now clearly the NRA spent more jobs are always telling you the truth very well if government. Well you'd be wrong because Bloomberg spent approximately one hundred ninety four million dollars more spent on it average near and lobbying one hundred seventy million more than the. NRA Spent Ali entire sixteen election. Just if he could hear the gravity of these numbers. Should he hit you like my gavel Michael Bloomberg in just thank you and the Democrat noted anti-gun grabber hater of sugary drinks met former mayor of New York City now. left-wing Democrat radical. Tom Has spent in a few months. Thirty million more dollars the NRA spent in the entire twenty sixteen election but again Democrats lecture me again about big money and politics. Oh you're getting the double-barreled Barreled Index Ranger. Because I'm trying to keep it. Family friendly nothing. Do you understand nothing. These people tell you it was true to what you want registers Democrat. I don't care it's not my thing. I'm a conservative. I will register as a Republican for the rest of my life. Do your thing. I'm simply suggesting that liberals was are telling you is. Bs just like trump told you when we opened the show. And if you believe in shame on you for not doing your homework voters you like. It's a free country. I am not a monarch I. I am not an olive garden. I am not a dictatorial tyrant trying to tell you what to do. I'm simply telling you the facts whether you believe them or not. It's up to you. You are being lied to the tax cut. Significantly benefited the middle class race relations have gotten better under Donald Trump wjr and finally guns. You're going to hear more about this. The gun lobby. He's been overwhelmed by just one candidate running for office in just a couple months months man. Big Money Yeah. Yeah your big money in the Democrat your the problem okay. Proving bring everybody in this room wrong. I got through the show today. Well let's see. I don't want to count my chickens here before they hatch Tucker Carlson if you watch and I believe this was last night did a segment on something. The man your antenna thanking better be going off you heard about this new way forward. Act Now folks you you who either at I I you take the green new deal or as how did he calls it which I love and I think he doesn't hurt the new green deal which he does that on purpose. sub-delegation Burgas you take. The Green. New Deal is bad where former campaign staffer and he was running her office. Sag Sagar his name wrong. I'm sorry forgive me. I don't WanNa purpose but he actually admitted the green new deal was a way to quote transform from the economy. Well now joe they want to transform the nation they WANNA basically decriminalize illegal immigration completely. And even if you're caught here illegally having committed a serious crime like being a child Predator they don't even want to support you anymore. I am not not messing with you. Listen to Tucker. Carlson explain this on his show last night. Check this out at this moment. There's a bill pending in the Congress called the New Way Forward Act. It's received almost all snow publicity. And that's unfortunate as well as revealing. The legislation has sponsored by forty four house. Democrats including Ilhan Omar and Alexandria causing Cortez is roughly four thousand. Four hundred words long. That means it's almost exactly as long as the. US Constitution like the Constitution. It's designed to create a whole new country. The bill would entirely tiredly re might make our immigration system with the explicit purpose of ensuring that criminals are able to move to the United States and settle here permanently with immunity. May think we're exaggerating for effect. But we're not exaggerating. Not even a little bit. The New Way Forward Act is the single most radical piece of legislation. We've ever seen proposed in this country ever ever makes the green new deal of like status quo document proves by Democrats promote the bill. Says this and we're quoting it verbatim. Convictions should not lead to deportation station. End Quote now. Do you see why when I get these emails from some of the listeners. Dan Don't pay any attention to. AFC giving her attention. She doesn't need. What did you think she was going to go away? You think her and the squad that are now pushing a bill to literally wipe out our borders. We will not be able to deport people. People who not only enter the country illegally by committing a crime. But come here to commit crimes. Were not even allowed to get rid of them anymore. You you ignore them at your own peril. They tried that same stuff in Venezuela with Madero and Chavez ignore them they'll go away good luck. This stuff is really really getting bad. Get ready for the fight ahead. All right folks. Thanks again for tuning in. I really appreciate it and please pick up. My Book. Exonerated on Amazon is going to be really important if I write this next one. You're going to need to know what happened in there. A lot of big reveals also subscribed YouTube Channel YouTube dot com slash Bongino. 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Troubling Questions About Epsteins Death (Ep 1042)

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Troubling Questions About Epsteins Death (Ep 1042)

"Get ready to hear the truth about america on a show. That's not immune to the facts with your host. Dan bongino ingenious damage show producer job back on this monday. How are you sir happy. Uh-huh yeah listen. I'm sorry about friday the video on youtube you know we do our best and road shows that i got a lot of emails from folks there like how how you would i was in the screen and the reason is i brought the mike stanton and i think i'm better off holding the mic on roadshows there like it was like the equivalent of like three feet of dan bongino in the show did well on youtube was important show on friday but the bruce giorgio choose. Let me tell you what we're going to get to today. Obviously the deeply disturbing revelations about jeffrey epstein's death lots of open questions on that we're going to get into. I've got more information as i promised about. The devastating revelations in bruisers interviews the f._b._i. There's some nuggets in there. That are just definitely worth your time time. I also want to get into red flag. These horrible red flag laws these the hypocrisy on the second amendment from some on the left. You don't seem to understand the bill of rights and hopefully get to some elizabeth warren and bernie sanders stuff to who just entirely discredit themselves so it was a stack show. Stay with us. Let's get right to show is brought to you by buddies at harry's joe and i are favor raise. Joe loves harry's. I love harry's. Let me tell you one of the best things about. This is my razor right here with the travel cover on it. You can see look at right great design. I have to go on video here in the morning for a podcast and typically at night for primetime on fox. I don't like to shave twice a day one because it's annoying but right. It's the worst. What do you get the razor. Burn like i do you get the nasty razor. Burn at it. It just hurts. It's annoying. 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Listen i know m._c._c. see see well the the metro correctional facility there where epstein died jeffrey epstein for those who you unaware the back story lori i know many of you are but epstein was currently awaiting trial for prosecution on some really atrocious a sexual misconduct allegations against minors. The stories are deeply disturbing. Many you're aware of them. He was having a young ladies as young as fifteen according to the allegations do things to him. It's you know i try to keep the show family friendly most of the time but you can get the point. It was pretty gross. The reason epstein case was so controversial because of the connections epstein had epstein was deeply connected to a lot of democratic donors. He had this island where a lot a lot of high profile people were alleged to visited. There were allegations. Some of these high profile people were the recipient of treatment. Let's say by by these ladies as well. That was pretty gross and disgusting so nobody knew if epstein was cooperating or not but if epstein steam were to talk the rumor mill was that it was going to bring down a lot of important prominent people may have been engaged in the same kind of disturbing behavior. Okay we get that out of the way. Let's get to the problem. I obviously losing a subject of an investigation who dies in in your custody is incredibly disturbing as a cop. A former copy former federal agent folks. I did the cells and the seven five precinct like the cells that when you were a new guy you've got thrown in the cells a lot. You basically sat there in the holding cell in the precinct and your job was basically had one job. Well maybe to fingerprint the people who brought in on the live scan machine and make sure war. They don't harm themselves in the cells you at one job. One job apparently m._c._c. fluid on this one job now <hes> bill bar the attorney general so we can see from this daily caller piece is apparently pretty disturbed by this due william davis wrote the daily caller bill barr says epstein's death raises serious questions. Yes obviously that's going to be in the show notes today. Check that out the d._o._j. And the i look into it. I want to get to the meat and potatoes here ladies and gentlemen. I take away the f._b._i. And the i g the inspector actor general looking into the death of epstein's weaken had damn well better handle this quick. They better handle this by the numbers and they better handle. This publicly folks folks. I'm going to wait to the facts come out. I don't engage in theories. I can't back up but i think joe and i would both agree the question surrounding this alleged suicide are numerous yeah and are worth entertaining and worth getting to the bottom of quickly. I can't say this enough that our constitutional republic lately appears to be hanging by a thread whether it's spy gate the relentless attacks on donald trump you know the collapse of our legal system with we you know with the judges acting as politicians folks the trust in our justice system in our f._b._i. Sadly is at an all time low signed a reflection of a lot of working men and women there but the managers did to the trump team destroyed their reputation. You now have the subject of a criminal case that could bring down some connected connected high profile elitist many on the democrat side of the aisle who obviously own academic institutions ideologically in our culture and all all of a sudden he shows up dead in his cell and one of the most secure facilities in the country. They darn well better. Handle this quick and by the numbers and there are a ton of open questions now. Let's do some rumor control. I number one. He was not on suicide watch. This is important folks. We shouldn't be theorizing on eighty two. We get the facts in this really discredits. Everyone later on on epstein was not on suicide watch now. What's disturbing about that. I'm just putting it out. There is a fact. I'm not saying that was the right call. Look at this daily mail piece. We saw which again will be in the show notes today. It's epstein had already told the guards before. He hanged himself that someone tried to kill him questions mouth. This is a daily chris. Spargo and andrew court questions mount over why billionaire pedophile was taken off suicide. Watch just the sex slave lawsuit naming powerful friends including prince andrew. Why was he not on suicide. Watch right folks there joe. There's there's obviously a paper trail. Here was some mental health professional involved here. I mean how of all the people not not on suicide watch. How did this guy make the list. He clearly was open about efforts. He felt the kill him clearly. There was an incident a week ago. Oh where there were allegations of self harm. How is he not on suicide. Watch another question i have for you. I have a ton of open questions here folks. I i know m._c._c. I know how it's laid out. Where how exactly did he do this again again. I i'm trying to keep the gory details out. But how exactly did he do this. When you see how the cells are laid out how high they dr how there's not really anchor points or anything how they don't really give them a lot of metal and things to work with and even the sheets they give them aren't wait. They're not capable bulla bearing weight to show they give them like it's not it's like a pay per site. She doesn't bear weight in other words. If you were to rip it yeah exactly into into like a rope type thing. How exactly did it happen again. I'm not i'm not suggesting any. I'm just asking legitimate questions here. How did this happen. How is he not on suicide watch. How mechanically did this actually happen. This better go public quick because there are a lot of questions out there another open question as we've discussed on this show many times before folks again. It's not before i get into this. I want to be crystal clear on this because people are using my name by the way for viral clicks on their website secret service agent yeah. They're talking about me. I've seen it a lot of you. Sent it to me dope by a lot of their hype. You get it from me here on my show. The information i i have about epstein is not mine. I was not the witness for those of you who missed the shore. I discussed this. A person came to me a certain time period ago with some information about some behavior by bill clinton that was suspect at best on an epstein plane. That's the totality of the facts when that person is ready to share that i will be happy to bring it out on this show or welcome to do it somewhere else. That's what i know but i know that the behavior by very powerful bill clinton clinton even to this day even though his political capital has diminished greatly was at best suspicious at worst deeply deeply troubling. I'm just tired of my name being thrown out there like i'm hiding. It's not my information to share what i have and was given permission to share. You have not hiding something from you. What would be the purpose of that just making said no. That doesn't make any sense. It's annoying. It's getting a little yeah. People are doing click betas up on their website. You know conservative warrior whatever dot org com or something secret service. It's not my inforal. Get it so that's another open question. Just when these people people are gonna come out and talk about what we know but secondly there have been a number of allegations about jeffrey free epsteins ties as a potential human source or to the intelligence community open question. What exactly did epstein. What kind of knowledge did he have was he working as a human source for the f._b._i. Was he working for intelligence. Some kind of foreign mess suggesting ask some massad asset. I'm just suggesting to you that there's an open question out there as to why he was given some of these deals in the past and was there a trade off was he working as a source for some all right all right now folks. I'll throw this out there as well and i have to be cryptic again because this is not my information to share here and i don't violate people's trust when they tell me that but i know someone is working on a story someone you and i both know that's very big with regards to this very big with regards to epstein and i'll leave it at that there are there's information out there and there may in fact be evidence out there hard evidence of what's been speculated in the past about his behavior around these young women. It's it's not my story to share. When it comes out i will share it on the show. I'm just telling you there are a lot of open questions questions about who was watching epstein who epstein was watching for other people who epstein was dealing with coup was watching watching the people epstein was dealing with. I'm giving you a winking odd because the story i think is bigger than even you know copy but again. I'm not going to speculate relate on the circumstances of his death until the information is out there but i'm clearly going to tell you a lot of you email this weekend like dan. This is suspicious. I don't disagree marie. How is a guy who is alleged to have tried to harm himself already not on suicide watch while connected to some of the most powerful people in the world in a devastating aiding case of alleged sexual misconduct how he was i have no i cannot explain that with a straight face deeply deeply disturbing all right. I want to get into this and i wanna get on kind of a flow here folks. I want to get back to the friday. Show is going to be bad at twenty minutes but there is some devastating nuggets august and a theory. I want to throw out there that i've heard bandied about about exactly what was going on post trump election to explain lean why the democrats wanted re-engage christopher steele. I promise you is very simple when i get to it but this one's going to open your eyes. Let's get it's a quick and then we can rock and roll. This is important. Good sponsors want to be here. They wanna talk to you. Ladies and gentlemen you stressed out. You're having a tough time sleeping. I have the answer to you visit. Oh max health dot com for their sleep and stress remedy. You're not sleeping well if you don't sometimes i have that issue. You're tired day suffers. I don't have that problem anymore. Thanks to max your your patients gets shot. You're moody. You're irritable irritable of melatonin or over the counter sleeping aids aren't doing the trick for you. 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Why were the democrats specifically mark warner people like dan jones who used to work democrat senator dianne feinstein left her staff a to still try to after the dossier been debunked. Put some meat on the bones of it. Why were they trying to re-engage steal as late as may of twenty seventeen after christopher steele. The author of the debunk dossier used to spy on trump. I think all of you know that why were the democrats still looking to engage this guy. Keep in mind ladies and gentleman he gives information throughout the summer of two thousand sixteen they use that information steals paid by by team hillary through fusion g._p._s. to gin up this fake dossier with all the nonsense the tape the ridiculous carter page page allegations being bribed for the tune of seven seven seven quadrille dollars so stupid they were like if you read the dossier and his face you'd laugh. Why why were they still trying to engage. This guy already knew he was a liability you track. It is the basic question setup here because when i give you the answer it's gonna blow your might even more because you regular listeners understand why the democrats know by may of twenty seventeen that the guy who produced the information to spy on trump is entirely discredited in the coen prog stories falls. The tape is false. The carter page is false. They're getting all this heat and yet as we can see and i wanna hat tip conservative treehouse guys. They have an interesting piece on this. This is a tweet for mark warner. This is their labels on. They did a good job this. Here's a she's mean that a tweet forgive me a text conservative. Treehouse guys are going to have this up a text for mark warner and look at the dates folks may thirty first of two thousand seventeen where mark warner democrats senator on the intel. Oh committee is clearly trying to re engage. Let me read for you this text so you understand what's going on. Here's warner. He's talking here to adam waldman. Who is a lawyer. You're representing steel. Who also represents influential russian oleg deripaska connected to putin senator water. We wanna do this right private in london. Landon don't want to send letter yet 'cause if we can't get agreement would rather not have a paper trail so warners beclere what's going on here. Folks democrats senator warner. The intel committee is texting this lawyer working with christopher steele warner's trying to re-engage which the warrior but does not want to set up a paper trail walden walden response that makes sense glad to keep trying to intermediate see if i can convince him to speak with you directly. He's talking about steel at the moment coming. Steal seems spooked. No pun intended one a response to that. Keep me informed also any news from your other guy manafort waldman response to that my other guy the conservative she has casting. He's talking about their pocket certainly possible but while the response my other guy like steel very mistrustful of u._s. Government he's been essentially shut out of the country and dragged through the mud. I explored this question with him last night. In person this is gambling stuff ladies and gentlemen with the or three oh twos and the exposure of the fact that ores continue new to be used as an intermediary as well bruce or the d._o._j. Official between stealing the f._b._i. Despite the fact that steel aw on paper christopher steele the source for the dossier has already allegedly been terminated by the f._b._i. As a source back in november joe because he was deemed unsuitable suitable for use for talking to the media here. We get the sixty four trillion dollar question what the heck was still on on paper at least terminated by the f._b._i. Is a source for talking to the media yet. The democrats are still trying to get in touch with them and bruce or is still talking to steal in passing the information to the f._b._i. What is going on here. Please tell me you get this because when you get the asterisk this can kick you in the ribcage waiting for the kick yeah well here. It is folks. May i suggest to you that our theory that the dossier steeled produced is not the steele dossier that are theories behind all of this focused as they might. I'm done with my second book. It's going to be out and just now a couple of weeks. Exonerate is available now for you to pick up when you read this book. This is going to open your eyes folks. This was not the steele dossier the information in that dossier. It's looking more and more likely by the day was produced produced by the movie script author glenn simpson who wrote the piece in the two thousand seven wall street journal about the exact same players in the dossier <hes> also so it now appears bruce ores wife nellie or who worked for fusion g._p._s. the same companies christopher steele was producing dossiers herself now. Some of you made the connection. Some of you may have not. Let's just get a book okay folks. They're trying to reach out to steal because they wanna make sure steal shuts his mouth and that steal stories going to stay consistent. Yeah think about it. They about it. Think about it think about it. Yes why is christopher. Steals name on a dossier used to spy on trump. If it's not his dossier why why put his name on the folks you already know the answer because your regular listeners to the show and you're very smart because if you put glenn simpson's name on the dossier the f._b._i. Would have had a verified him as a legitimate source because he hadn't worked with the f._b._i. In a formal confidential human source way in the past and if they had to go out and verify simpson and his information in the dossier joe what would have happened. They would found out that the dossier was. Let's see who says judge's ruling information crap. They would've figured out immediately that the information was garbage if they had to do the whole hallmark of verifying the simpson or dossier okay so some genius said well. I've got an idea. Let's go out and hire this guy. I christopher steele. Who's already worked with the f._b._i. Already has that f._b._i. Badge of honor as a source so they won't do the extra legwork to verify because steals already a verified source yet but it's not steals information. It's out doesn't matter. Nobody's gonna check that you joe. Please tell me picking up. Put on putting down at simple now. All of a sudden the information's entirely discredited steals outed by a bunch of media. How this trump surprisingly wins the election election. They thought all this was going to go away and now all of a sudden people start asking questions hey steel. Is this your information well. I never really been russia not recently. This is the democrats mark warner and the bureau the upper level of the f._b._i. Through bruce or who still meeting with steel after he's been fired air quotes by the f._b._i. To do what folks it's obvious to get steel to shut his mouth because when when steel comes out joe and says hey the steel dossiers not the steele dossier i did. This isn't even my information stem. They just put my name on it. You realize their in their whole cases already fallen apart but another another axe change shaw to the redwood of this case the whole thing collapses keeping now not only is the yes yeah. Keep your friends close. Your enemies closer in this is not what it appears to be. Dan jones cool leaves. Senator feinstein democrats senators staff on the senate intel committee remember feinstein's on the intel committee managing this whole spy gate thing with democrat mark warner jones isn't leaving to continue the investigation into trump trump. They know steals information garbage. Jones waldman warner feinstein's crew bureau. They're only talking to steal to to give give them. A couple pats on the back to greece to get him to shut his mouth. You get it look at those tax warner's desperate aspirin to keep the relationship going without a paper trail. Why why not wanna paper folks. Why would you not want a paper. Trail is steals a verified authentic source with legitimate intelligence information the sitting president spying for the russians. Why would you not want a paper trail because was warner doesn't want anybody to know he's meeting with steel. Hey chris. I've been on the senate intel committee. You know we've been working. This spy gate scheme the whole time and the spying scandal on trump. Hey lincoln and chris. You're not going to say it's not the steele dossier right. You can still say this was your info right because the only way the f._b._i. Could've used it as if it was your info right. Steele was a front steel was a front. They don't want him to tell the truth. That's all coming <music> out now with these or three or three oh to show a continued relationship with steel after he's fired folks. I'm telling you it's not for intelligence agents gathering at you. It's the get steel to shut his mouth. Wow yeah wow is right. You're darn right. You want more proof. Here's another screen shot from the three that were released. Look at what they did hear back going read the whole thing. It's up youtube dot com slash punching. I'll read to you the portion you need to see so they're interviewing bruce or the f._b._i. Again these three o two's are memorandum's about their their interviews with him or still communicating with steel. They say on december twenty two thousand sixteen eleven a._m. Or provided this writer talking about the f._b._i. Agent who's taking the note with a u._s._b. Micro drive a thumb drive glenn simpson fusion g._p._s. hired oars wife nellie order conduct research firm or voluntarily thoroughly provided his wife's research to the f._b._i. Or provided the interviewing agent with the thumb drive and indicated it contain. The totality of the work. Nellie or conducted did for simpson to this. Here's the killer line but the fusion g._p._s. header was strict new ooh nellie or is a russian linguist and former russian history professor. The thumb drive was entered into evidence so folks. Thanks again this strategy to get information into the f._b._i. And launder where it actually came from i they're laundering the information through steel that clearly some of this is logically from simpson or not steal the steele dossier should should be called the simpson or dossier but he can't be because it wouldn't be credible because they weren't credible sources secondly launder the information mation from nelly or who's working for fusion to our husband bruce through the thumb drive but make sure you strip away the headers that this came from fusion folks this was an information laundering operation and they're trying to get steel to shut his mouth because steals the one who knows about it finally one takeaway 'cause. I got a bunch of other stuff to get through today. It's an important show daily caller piece again in the show notes show notes. You're definitely worth your time subscribed described. My email lists that bongino dot com email you these stories every morning. It's very important but there are also attached to the podcast daily caller piece by chuck. Ross has been doing yeoman's work on this broussard documents undercover f._b._i. Claims and carter page phases again another wooden a big axe to the redwood of this case tree is coming down folks in bruce or three o two's bruce or acknowledges that there is a detail ongoing relationship nations ship between him and steal and he shares at one point. This fact that steel may have had an ongoing relationship with the press will ladies and gentlemen. That's it's a big problem because as we can see in the peace if bruce orders passing to the f._b._i. That steel at an ongoing relationship with the media <unk> stand that debunks a footnote in the fis amorn here we go chuck ross and i quote the pfizer footnote also poses potential problems for steel given his his contacts with numerous numerous reporters and former british and u._s. Government officials regarding the dossier this in the footnote in the pfizer source one talking about steel told the f._b._i. That he only provided this information to the business associate and the f._b._i. Reads the footnote which does not cite a date for <unk> steel allegedly made the claim goes on not only did steal brief reports about the dossier also provided a copy to john. Mccain associate david kramer kramer acknowledged. She shared the dossier which buzzfeed and kramer said in a court deposition that stealing courage in to speak to buzzfeed ken bensinger and c._n._n. Contributor call bernstein what's the problem bruce or openly speculates ladies and gentleman this interview with the f._b._i. And the three touts that this relationship was ongoing data or and steal met with report that steel excuse me met with reporters right around the time of the september yahoo news report and that he may have quote met jointly with simpson with the reporter folks. Why's that a problem. It's obvious to footnote clearly says they didn't provide the information to anyone one other than the business associate fusion and the f._b._i. Someone's lying again. This case is coming down and coming down fast rapidly and hard on the left their story ladies and gentlemen cannot possibly possibly be true. He only spoke with us. Infusion actually spoke with the f._b._i. Spoke with the f._b._i. And bruce or and already acknowledged he likely met with yahoo about the article yahoo news and isikoff blissett a me this this is all i'm telling you this is all coming out and this is going to be really really really bad for these hacks at the top were convinced they were gonna get away with this. All right. Stay tuned unless sponsor listen. I wanna get this next red flag laws and this just grotesque mischaracterization the second amendment that so easily easily lee debunked this liberal talking point all right. Let's get right to it <hes> last point. 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All all the time out of you blocked me. I thought that we had one job stock me but they blocked me so i can't tell you which ones but follow these liberal accounts and this is where they're going again going out. This is all about the militia. This was never meant to be an individual right and i stood on this over the weekend i what is the easiest way to distill this down down to a simple argument for the left is that you can debunk this nonsense talking point and i saw this piece by david harsanyi in the federalist. It's very well done again obi in the show today. Please check it out. The second amendment is the title has always been an individual right. John paul stevens is still wrong about district of columbia versus heller by david harsanyi federalist excellent excellent piece lot of legal wonkery in there but worth your time but the gist of it is this. Here's one of the takeaways from the piece. I really enjoyed. It's very important folks. He's quoting this. I'm quoting from the peace and he's quoting judge anthony scalia. He's putting all these textual elements together wrote skelly and his historical philosophical and legal exposition the second amendment we find that they guarantee the individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation should the meaning is strongly confirmed by the historical background of the second amendment. Here's the money line folks we look to this because it has always been widely understood that the second amendment madman like the first and the fourth codified a pre existing right david's a great writer. I'm going to make it a little simpler for you. Joe is the first amendment right to speech. You're right to petition the government your right to express your religion. You're right to assemble campbell. Is that a collective right or is that a right that belongs to you joe or mccaw treasure ju- armacost thank you betcha your fourth amendment rights against search and seizure our legal search and seizure. Is that a right granted to the collective or a right to joe armagh copy. It's all about me. That's right me jokes all about joe again. It's all about joey got. Let's get to the meat and potatoes now right so let's put the second amendment up first and make this real simple because we're go to a simple language test so here's the second amendment for liberals who can't read a well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state comma. Uh the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed all right so the people who wrote the bill of rights and the constitution are wonderful founding fathers fathers and this document in the said the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed so they're talking about joe and individual visual right here yes. How do we know that that they're not referring to a collective right because the exact same terminology is used in other portions of the bill of rights the exact words to be exact and of course they're talking about individual rights exactly. Let's go to the first amendment because again. Liberals liberals have a tough time. Doing things like reading and word comprehension congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion prohibiting the free exercise thereof or abridging the freedom of of press or of the press or the highlight here noticed where i put my finger down extra hard on the line or the right of the people peaceably to assemble petition the government for redress of grievances so the first amendment i had a highlighted for the libs watching the show uses the exact exact literally not figuratively right of the people words terminology in the first amendment to refer to what is unquestionably and individual writing say oh okay well that was just a typo in the constitution while he didn't really have typewriters back then but whatever celebs let's go. Let's go to the videotape is warner. Wolfe used to say here. It is again highlighted for the lips the right of the people the poll to be secure in their persons houses papers and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures. You know the rest shall not be violated ladies and gentlemen. It's the exact zac same language. Why would the framers of our constitution the authors of the bill of rights right about individual rights using the exact same same terminology rights of the people to refer to individual rights not collective rights of the militia and then use that exact same terminology in the second second amendment but confused everybody by using the same terminology then to refer to collective right folks of course they would you're being a dipstick by saying that and you know it and so did judge and judge school anthony scalia who's since passed sadly of of course it was an individual rights. If it's a just ask your liberal friends if the right of the people codified in the second amendment refers to a collective right is freedom of speech and again search and seizure a collective not individual rights you know does our individual rights. It's the same language i listen. There are one thousand arguments reading through some of the historical documents surrounding the constitution and the drafting of thereof. It's clear they were referring to individual writes. It's clear they were referring to the militia. As individual individual citizens armed who could then come out and act as a defence force for the united states. It's clear just read the documents. Liberals won't do any of that because they don't care. This is a simple explanation is the first amendment individual right yes in the fourth amendment. Is that about individual at yes then. How is the second amendment that uses the exact same language a collective right policy that makes sense app. Sorry sorry i have to go to my backup on buds on the show because i just i know you get but i'm afraid. This isn't hitting home strongly enough like with the libs. They don't okay get basic things. No no definitely a collective right second. Yes sure sure guys good job. Well done again. Good solid legal analysis. I i've never ever heard it. Put that way to tell you the truth. I didn't know about that scalia ruling a writing. That's pretty cool. It's so simple yeah and her son is if you want the more detail layered legal analysis with some of the historical background harsanyi pieces excellence definitely worth your larry cool dude. I'm simply suggesting you just highlight. Just take out your constitution. Most of you carry a pocket constitution. I actually have the app. It's easier to carry on my phone and just highlight right of the people. It's not hard man. It's not hard man yeah. I'm telling you i stood all weekend on this the monday show for me a little behind the scenes folks is always the most stressful for me it does because there's so much which we had epstein dying this weekend we had the ore three zero two's break on friday night oh and by the way thank you to. Everybody watched me on hannity on the five on friday. The feedback was tremendous. I love you on a death breath. I mean that you make my day. Your feedback was so nice and i really appreciate but monday. I i all week and i wanted to cover this and these red flag laws and i just what what is the easiest way to say. It and that's it joe agrees thank. Let's move onto these red flag a matt palumbo. I resident fact check up on you. Know dot com wrote a terrific piece short sweet to the point about why these red flag laws are a bad idea even the title short and sweet the problem with red flag laws by matt palumbo. Please read the piece up in the show notes. Today folks a couple takeaways from matt's peace now what are red flag laws. They're also known as gun violence restraining orders. They are restraining orders orders that are supposed to according to what they tell you the supporters they're supposed to be legal restraining orders where people if they think individual is a danger to himself self others out there that they can go in and take firearms from this person without charging them with crime folks listen on paper that may <music> sound great but there are significant issues due process issues with going in and disarming people have yet to commit a crime now there are other issues addressed in matt's piece regarding these red flag laws that he nails and he had tips michelle malkin who pointed out this problem to folks. We've already seen things like this just before red flag laws or similar preemptive ways joe of putting people on watch lists and warning lists and red flag list and michelle malkin gives a great example which matt sites in the piece of the v._a. Veterans affairs administration how a lot of our listen folks what happens to our vets when they come back. Sometimes a disgrace the poor healthcare they get how some of them are are demonized by people for speaking out about their own healthcare and one of the examples malkin sites which again matt quotes and the piece is how dare is a vis joe how you know. There's apparently a disruptive behavior committee yet to where if you're you're going to a v._a. Healthcare and your fat yeah. You're the best of us you come back. You've served. You're just looking to get your healthcare situation taking care of that. I guess if you open your mouth and complain about the sometimes crappy healthcare you get these they can put you on disruptive behavior lists and matt talks about michelle's piece where michelle says you're supposed to be able to get off that list like to petition to get up and only something like a twenty nine percent of them. If you read the bottom of the peace have been given afforded the opportunity to pull their names off this listen now once you're put on that disrupted behavior list what happens then i mean are you gonna get e._d._p. Mostly disturbed person danger to sell frozen going to be a commitment. It involves what happens. You have your firearms taken away. We've already seen a malfunction of the government bureaucracy with our vets. You want to transplant a similar type model. These warning lists disrupted behavior into the society at large another good point matt brings up these lists are temporary ferrari and whereas i have no doubt there are lots of people in the country who have problems and should not have firearms folks. We have to respect due process. These are temporary. That's not a permanent fix. If you think someone is a dangerous themselves or others this needs to start the home where family members can get these people somehow allowing the government government to come in in complete violation of due process and preemptively take away your second amendment right without proving probable cause for an arrest or beyond a reasonable doubt for conviction that you've that you've committed any crime ladies and gentlemen. This is very dangerous stuff and i don't support it and i'm sorry i you know i know a lot of you are supporters of the president i am too but this is a very bad idea and let me just say i got a lot of emails about this this this weekend a lot <hes> a lot up there with the death penalty show and i'm just saying to the administration i know we we have a voice and i hope some people listen. I am telling you now. You're going to lose a lot of support if you move forward with this people see this as an unjustified encroachment on liberty and freedom and a violation of due process and a lot of the folks out. There do not want to be put on a list because they object to some government policy eh. They complain about medical medical care at a v._a. I'm just warning you. This is anyone in the administration's listening thing. This is a really really bad idea. I hope you are. I have an interesting tweet also by elizabeth warren which i saw this on don trump junior and he's absolutely right. Elizabeth warren tweeted this weekend as well. This is what we're on the firearm topic and the second amendment folks notice here while we're going to read this tweet. I want you to keep in mind in the background of this right. <hes> what's the liberal theory about high taxes. They don't affect business at all. Don't worry people pay them. It's not going to hurt business. Here's elizabeth warren aggie warm. Increasing taxes on gun manufacturers will reduce discount amunition sales and bring a new federal revenue that we can use for both gun violence prevention enforcement of existing gun laws together. We can hold on manufacturers accountable. Hold on one second. Just wanna read that opening line again. Increasing taxes on gun manufacturers reduce got an ammunition sales well timeout. There's a flag flag on laundry on the field. Get his laundry on the field folks what is holding ten yards elizabeth award replay i though her and bernie sanders job they not been lecturing us out. Taxes have no impact on the economy. They are not gonna hurt. Business taxes are not gonna stop commerce. It's not gonna stop consumption raising the prices of products do government taxes raising the price of your work work by forcing higher income taxes on you to work longer for the same amount of money. That's income taxes. Do it's not going to affect work. It's not going to affect consumption none oughta. This is going to make a difference. They've been lecturing us since the barack obama years about how stupid is the idea that taxes impact commerce but what's what's the solution. We need to tax gun manufacturers because that'll definitely impact on sales. You get how they step on there all the time. They can't get out of their own way. They have completely contradictory phony fraudulent messages all the time. These people are complete frauds any time now. Remember that tweet screen shot at take it off the youtube go to elizabeth warren's account. Put it on your phone. The next time your liberal friends tell you high taxes. Don't make a difference and don't affect consumption the economy growth just show them that tweet but what it only let me get this straight. It only affects guns. It only affects the gun and ammunition but every other businesses okay all right did definitely get. He said yes that makes perfect sense there. You go perfect ruling false raja. I love this is my favorite new to paula. Who gave us. Do you remember this guy's name. This is the gavel mike was at mike. Mike emails you get 'cause 'cause. I wanna give you a hat tip. This is our favorite tool ruling into bongino core false ten years for felonious mo- pre in the teeth teeth degrade. Every showed needs a gavel right. We can do that on this show. One of my doctor friend's emailed me this weekend and said he loves the freewheeling nature showed why favorite this yeah what what is it chain like with an end. Okay jay thank you jane. This will be forever referred to as jane scaffold ruling. We love james it nice i abc. Jane is definitely not mike okay last story of the day but a good one again on this liberal tie story lines together here liberal hypocrisy see at it's finest you appeared on fox and friends this morning my regular monday morning appearance. I always encourage you to watch it because i love fox and friends and they let me they let me talk a lot. There really really long appearances different shows have different for those people behind the scenes about fox different shows. There are different kinds of dynamics. That's so piece. Joe knows radio. Yeah exactly some shows. I do debate some shows. You have to be short and quick because there's just a lot of guests fox and friends on monday. I get to kinda just go and roll so so they had me on this morning about bernie sanders and this ridiculous bernie sanders tweet which i mean saying that it's kind of funny because everyone of his tweets ridiculous but bernie who's the biggest fraud out there. Eh tweeted this weekend. Something about donald trump and climate change how it says donald trump believes climate change is a hoax. Donald trump is an idiot so i just lit bernie up this morning on fox and friends. Donald trump is eighty. Keep in mind. This is the same i even got to do. My burning impression of oxford trump is an idiot. Donald trump believe the climate change is a hoax. He is an idiot and i said donald trump city bernie sanders thinks donald trump city. This is a guy who believes that the money ferry this is the guy who wants to spend thirty trillion dollars more than we owe entirely for our national debt now over the next ten years on money ferry like government run healthcare system. He thinks it's going to manage your healthcare better than you. This is the same guy who tells you he believes in climate change flies around on private jets eating soi gras and and what was it liberal rib loins what the hell was it. Remember remember that what was that lemon and crusted purloin so whatever the heck was shown crazy. This is the biggest fraud oh. I doubt they're like billionaires billionaire. I can't stand now all of a sudden. He amended that now is. I don't like billions you notice. What is talking talk about millionaires anymore because he's a billionaire. He's a total front. Martin mccallum asked him during the debate. I think i'll be on our show tonight. Asked him during in a town hall. Excuse me with the in on fox birdie. You don't like the trump tax cuts right yeah paraphrasing the question. Obviously you're terrible but you pay the trump tax rates that are lower of course i pay them. You'd be ready to pay higher tax. Thank you bernie. You're absolutely right. We don't be these guys. The biggest fraud folks disguised. Disguise bothers me for a number of reasons listen. He's not gonna win. I'm out of the predictions game but let me say it's highly likely not going to win the nomination. He's going down in the polls elizabeth with warren who's just as bad. Obviously it's creeping up but it bothers me because this guy i think i already told you sir but it's worth re dressings friend of mine. Jim is really smart. Guy prominent revenue in the gym super smart follows politics you know not as intently as joe and i apologize but he heard bernie joe rogan show which is the most popular podcast around and he's well. A lot of what bernie said sounds reasonable. I'm not kidding. Folks like my heart was ripped out of me and the understand like that's the game socialist play of course it sounds. It's focus nothing unreasonable about saying. Hey you know middle class. People should earn more money. Many people work hard and the rich have a lot of money. They do have a lot of money working class people do work hard and you know i wish they had some of the money that wealthy folks have but folks. The world is not a fair place. The business world cares about people who add value middle class workers add value but so do people people who are wealthy to and sometimes people in the middle class become rich. Sometimes people who are rich you stop adding value become very poor. You need me to name the story static the people who've gone bankrupt you over and over sometimes middle-class people become poor sometimes so circumstances are not fair. Sometimes they're fired for for terrible reasons. Sometimes companies make bad decisions. Sometimes they're fired for the right reasons but they lie to you and they paid this pollyannish view of the world. We we need to help. The poor people become rich. Thanks bernie of course that made how we did socialism well. Here's a story from the wall street journal this weekend get where they actually practice socialism so what bernie say you can't make sense. It's bernie's prescriptions that wrong. Here's the title of the piece by mary. Stasio grady writes about south and central america venezuela grows more unequal the haves find ways to provide basic services. The have nots suffer intensely. I'm gonna get to a portion as pieces second because it's important. It's worth your time but now keep in mind. I'm not suggesting what bernie saying doesn't make sense. Of course. I want middle class working people to be wealthy. I want the wealthy to be wealthier. I want the poor to be middle class and rich one day. Hey it's how you get there that matters any idiot can go on a podcast and say we need to poorer get rich algae. Thanks dude brilliant. Brilliant bernie thinks socialism is the path to get there where the government controls the means of production everything the government owns did you and your business and everything about you and he thinks that's the way to make the poor richer. It's actually a way to make the poor poorer and to make the connected did more connected in this piece and then not many snippet but there's another part in it. She talks about how venezuela is power. The power goes out all the time because socialist. I ran the power grid into the ground because government workers don't know anything about how to run. A power company barely know how to do government work so she talks about how the connected with money in venezuela connected few have gotten together generators for their communities joe so their powers on twenty four hours a day yet the poor that the socialists were supposed to be protecting have no such luck they starve because their food goes bad and she also writes in a piece. This is a portion of the piece. I was concerned because again. Bernie thinks he's helping the poor. She says well to do venezuelans with access to dollars. That's u._s. Dollars they're trying to keep out of venezuela by the way including regime insiders insiders can overcome shortages for those. Who can't i e the poor. Life is become primitive. Thus says to cow newspaper anthony reported the gap in living standards is between the haves and the have nots is wider than ever. I thought socialism is supposed to shrink decker. We need to make the poor rich. It's wider here here. We're here. It is here. There's always a gap. There's always going to be people who are poor. Middle-class always there is no perfect society. This is called the utopia fallacy when when socialist compare the united states to utopia doesn't exist we need more equality okay great every country's unequal questions what degree of inequality we have here. You look at socialist countries. You have the poor with no access to u._s. Dollars having to use worthless venezuelan bolivars showing up with a wheelbarrow of cash to buy a loaf of bread now aw the wealthy in venezuela connected to the regime they get dollars. They can go to the store and buy whatever they want to scam folks. It's a scam. I say to my buddy this. This is my show. You know i love you to death. Am i going to name of course but my gosh listen to what he's saying but how we prescribe solutions to get there. It's what is fixes fixes are that matters is what he's saying. They're all scammers besides they just showed you with warren end sanders whatever this as usually hypocritical anyway i hate trump tax cuts bernie you pay the trump tax rates. You fraud elizabeth. Warren taxes ain't gonna hurt business. Let's her business by taxing guns all right folks. Thanks for tuning. Please subscribe to my youtube. Channel youtube dot com slash bongino for the video version of the show audio podcasts available on apple podcast. All of this is free by the way apple podcast google podcast go to soundcloud as well. We really appreciate it. Subscriptions drivers up the the charts all free all the time. Thanks for spreading the word about the show in a really great week last week and sorry for the three foot tall image dan bongino in the youtube on friday and doing bob bob dole took third person but i thought the mike stand work better in a hotel obviously holding to mike is better even my wife and i was done with the show was like dude. You're even i love you. 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Amid a Covid Exodus, New York Raises Taxes

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Amid a Covid Exodus, New York Raises Taxes

"Courage i learned it from my adoptive mom. Learn about adopting a teen from foster. Care at adopt. Us kids dot org. You can't imagine the reward brought to you by adoptuskids the us department of health and human services and the ad council from the opinion pages of the wall street journal. This is potomac. Watch new york plans to impose the nation's highest rate of income tax as president biden and takes executive action on guns welcome. Kyle peterson with the wall. Street journal were joined by my colleagues. W jake columnists kim strassel and bill mcgurn. Thousands of people have been working from home amid the covid pandemic and There was a journal story last year. That said only ten percent of manhattan's office employees were actually at the office in person and yet the political power in albany do not seem too worried about getting back. The other ninety percent governor andrew cuomo this week struck a budget deal with the legislature that includes some huge tax increases. Bill what he. What do you think that. What do you think they're thinking up in albany Well i think one thing that they're thinking of governor cuomo is. He's in a real pickle with the charges of sexual harassment and the charges about how men's the nursing homes during kovin so the classic andrew cuomo answer to this is to get allies by paying them off in the budget and seems that's what he's doing now and just it distracts lot of people you know whenever you spend a lotta money you get. A lot of attention doesn't necessarily mean that money was spent wisely just to give a sense of the size of the tax increases. A couple of them is the business franchise tax which currently is at six point. Five percent is going to be going up to seven point. Two five percent And then the personal income tax is one that a lot of people are talking about right now. The top rate is eight point eight two percent and that's going to be going up to ten point nine percent On people making millions of dollars each year. But it's it's worth noting kim that that would be when you add in the new york city local tax rate That's about three point. Nine percent you get a total at is the highest in the nation higher than california. Yeah as we wrote in our editorial. California recognize america's new tax king because california's top marginal rate is thirteen. Point three percent. And you know all you also have to add into this. This is just simply state marginal tax rates. Of course the people who this is gonna hit are also going to be paying Federal marginal tax rates As well as the usual social security and medicare charges probably the medicare surcharge as. Well you are looking at you know. Close to if not getting these people to paying more than half of their income In taxation and this all comes even as we know that there are people wealthier americans who are migrating outward of high tax places like connecticut. Like new york like california and relocating to places like florida which has an income tax of zero. And you know that kind of brings up the fact that it may be that that provision and the recent covid relief bill That says that states receive any of that bailout. Money can't use it to lower taxes Because this is all a progressive ploy to make sure that not only do they get to raise taxes and blue states but make it harder for red states to attract new folks to their to their borders. But it's it's. It's always been true. That people are mobile and capital is mobile and yet it is still hard for me to imagine. I mean almost a worse time for new york to do this than than during the middle of this year. Long experiment with people working from home There's a journal new story. I think today that talks about some of the companies that have moved to florida or open new headquarters in florida. During the past year. The include elliott management corp icahn enterprises blackstone group Apparently goldman sachs asset. Management is a is looking at a at opening a new florida office at jetblue. Airways says it might move to florida when its lease expires in twenty twenty three There's a some quotes from the the letter from j. P. morgan chase ceo. Who says that you know in this new reality. We may only need sixty seats in an office for every one hundred employees that we have. And there's also some interesting census bureau data cited more than three hundred thousand new york city households in higher income neighborhoods filed change of address forms with the us postal service from march to october last year. So bill i mean it seems like the the message that new york sending a lot of those people who have had spent the last year. Not in new york is that they they might wanna think about staying wherever they are exactly. I think that You know the incentives have just changed so dramatically and so fast in people have discovered that they're more flexible about where they can work than they than they might have thought before so. We're obviously going to have sort of a hangover from that of people that that move somewhere else in they say you i. I could live in the somewhere else very easily. Instill do my job. So i think the blue states are particularly like new yorker just Playing with fire because they seem to be under the old arrangement that they can do whatever they want in terms of rate and people are just hostage businesses employers just hostage because there's no other place where they could do it and we're learning that that's not true and it's going to have all sorts of ramification for taxes whether they can collect a taxes and And where people want live. I think the bottom line this is more people are gonna live where they would like to live and not where they have to live because of their jobs right. And and that's the point that i think was made very well in a letter Of by like two hundred fifty. More than two hundred and fifty. Ceos business leaders That signed a letter in in march on some of these proposed tax increases and some of the proposals were a little bit higher than what made it into the actual budget deal but this is one of the things they say they say that are you know are workforce's are more mobile than we ever imagined that they could be and i'll read a couple lines The letter says these new taxes may trigger a major loss of economic activity in revenues as companies are pressure to relocate operations to where the talent wants to live and work. This is what happened in new york during the nineteen seventies when we lost half our fortune five hundred companies and it took thirty years to recover and so i mean kim do do. Do you think that the politicians in albany including governor cuomo. I mean do. They did not see that argument or do they just think that new york is such a luxury good. That people will be willing to pay whatever for it they do. And that's long been the philosophy. I think the problem was laid out in that. Ceo letter is that increasingly. It's impossible for young younger families to live and live decently in high tax and high costs cities like new york as much as they might wanna go to broadway as much as they might want all the fabulous gourmet shopping stores. It's simply hard. That's why you see a lot of them. You know outside of new york city In the suburbs et cetera. But overall what we've seen is You know these growth other areas in the country whether it's you know down in the atlanta area or other kind of middle or high lower high tier cities where you can simply by you know a three bedroom house in it's affordable and you can drive around and it's easy to get places. I think that's one problem. The other problem with that mentality is it. New york has substantially changed over the past year and people saw problems of excessive lockdowns on a lot of businesses. Closer stores never to reopen The kind of arts and culture scene. There is is been devastated. So what are you sticking around four. And then i would add into that. If you're a business you know. It's one thing for the governor to say. Hey we're we're bleeding Hemorrhaging hair and this is really important reason. We need to raise your business franchise tax but the reality is is it state revenues even before the big amount of money that everyone is getting from the federal government as part of the the bailout We're running point one percent while they were last fiscal year And most of this money is going to boondoggles like tons of new dollars for schools. Even on top of the federal school bailout. As well to we'll be right back. You're listening to potomac watch from the wall street journal. I'm alex most of the reback from there. It's been an extraordinary year for stock markets particularly for companies going public. Ipo sword and they show no sign of slowing down but the boom didn't come out of the blue and there was plenty of pain on the roads ipo success. So how do you put a price on innovation. This season on the reebok. We'll find out we're winding back. The clock on a decade of ipo's from his darren on facebook uber and airbnb. The read back is available. Wherever you get podcasts. From the opinion pages of the wall street journal this is the tomac watch. Welcome back. kim brings up an important point. Which is all of the federal money. That new york and other states are getting. As part of the covid spending relief plans by some measures. New york is getting fifty billion dollars. some of that for schools some of that for general budget aid and so i mean bill. The the argument is that there's there is not really a big hole in the budget that needed to be filled here It it's just that the the state legislature i guess wanted to expand programs and spend a little bit more money. Yeah well the way. New york's work is that basically the legislatures don't have much to do with it. It's the governor the speaker of the house and the senate leader and they go in a room and they they hash out. Their deals and the governor Has a lot of powers here. And that's what he uses to reward friends the again. This doesn't make any sense. Invasive it does make sense if you think that andrew cuomo is at a lot of trouble may be. Impeached may be forced out. This is one way to keep him in. And he's a fighter he'll he'll go all the way to the end and again it used to be a different dynamic when there's a republican senate. It was kind of a check in new york. And since that's gone not coincidence mandra. Komo's moved born progressive direction. Yeah and just to underline that a little bit. i'll read a couple of quotes from him in in two thousand nineteen cuomo said this. He said tax the rich tax rix rich tax. The rich we did that. God forbid the rich leave in his state of the state speech in twenty twenty. That new york's corporate tax rate was lower than it had been the lowest it had been since nineteen sixty eight and it does seem kim. I agree with bill. It does seem like there's a palpable shift in cuomo's direction here. Yes we are all progressives now and you have to you have to ask what it is driving that as part of it an attention you know an attempt to curry favor with progressive groups. That have kind of gone after him on some of these failings that bill mentioned at the beginning in particular these these questions of sexual inappropriateness as well is it him simply moving to the left of the way. So much of the democratic party has moved to the left Disease disea- believe that helps position himself in politics in a better place going forward. It isn't it isn't really clear but we have seen this migration from cuomo slowly but steadily And it just. It seems to be getting more radical. Now ineffectually a real pity because you know all parties do better. When there are a range of philosophies across the board and cuomo for awhile was was certainly acting as one of the guys. That was preaching some temperance in the party Commonsense approaches to things still to me far to the left of. Were you know mike. My free market views are but And slowly were just seeing the evaporation of all of those people. But there is an interesting question because I mean the next new york gubernatorial election is about a year and a half away november. Twenty twenty two and bill. I mean maybe you're right that cuomo is working to shore up his left flank here but it does seem like he is raising a real question for any voters to the right of him. People who may have supported him as a check on the legislature may be asking themselves now. you know what what they're supposed to do what those voters are. What's in it for them to vote for cuomo. Well there's there's no place for them to go. Those kind of voters in the democratic party i think. And that's the problem. They're kind of bereft. Let left with that leadership. Cuomo for all is. I'm not a big fan of his but andrew cuomo did a reasonable job of you know for for democrat of keeping spending down like bay sessions keeping it down but keeping it from exploding and getting out of hand but i think that's all going to go now i think I think he needs the support from his party. A lot of them don't trust him And i think that means more spending finally on thursday president biden unveiled some executive actions on guns. Kim can you give us an overview of what he announced that he was going to do. And what you make of it. So i think the ones that are getting the most attention is. He's he's issued orders to have proposals drawn up to crack down on or get rid of ghosts guns. Which by the way. I do think and i'm a proud firearm arms. Owner i do think is something that does require more study. Thought and the policy sphere goes guns are essentially this sort of growing phenomenon. You out there. Although it's it has happened for quite a while but it's it's gained in speed where people can go online and buy different parts to firearms and kind of create their own and Officials don't like this because there there are no serial numbers are not registered I mean we register mostly. But you don't have to go through a background check to order these pieces online and create these sort of things The other side of it is hot. there. There's a lot of people who do this as kind of hobby like law abiding americans who you know. Just as pastime for them and they earn trigged by But you know you can certainly also see the side of the fact that you are making firearms at essentially anyone can do it and you don't go through the normal check. So there's there's something on that and then also this question of our braces which are basically these attachments to some firearms. Make them a little bit more steady. When you hold them. I put this in the classification of of donald trump did something about bump stocks which are a little device you can get that allows a potentially for more rapid firing of a firearm that they might do something around the edges. But we're not dealing with the real issue about firearms and shootings which is crime in the streets. People who got their guns illegally and also mental health issues. And you know th everything we've ever looked at every person that's ever engaged in one of these mass shootings. There's clearly mental problems there and it was really striking to me that Once again democrats are going at this from. How can we restrict firearms and firearm use. Rather than how do we deal with people who really shouldn't have guns and who really need help. Yeah i mean. I guess one of the things that strikes me though from these executive actions is just the the narrowness of them. I mean there's there's a lot of appetite in the democratic party for gun control measures and this is what the biden administration has come up with what they can do on their own Doing some rulemaking on these pistol arm braces. Which as kim points out don't really doesn't really address the problems here and it just shows. I think bill the the the difficulty of trying to do this. This is a commune. Power over gun. Control is something that is really in congress's court and there's not a whole lot that the president can do on his own. Yes that's true and it's also a constitutional right which democrats liked to ignore any every year. There's some new kind of hope for whether it's bump stocks or something some new hope and of course it never materializes to be what they What they say. And i i think basically gun control is how the liberals respond to crime. They don't have a good answer for crime so they talk about gun control and in their group it probably pulls pretty well but i think that they're playing with fire on this because gun control is also one of those issues that crosses over party lines. You'd be surprised at you know who's really Gun and so forth. And i think that they have potential with this very narrow majority in in the house and in the senate for alienating these people if they make this a real cultural battle on guns I don't. I'm not sure. That's what i would do if i had the slight majority that they have but as is one takeaway from these these executive actions kim as sort of an acknowledgment from the biden administration of the real limits of executive authority. Here i would hope so. And i have to say that you know as much as i think. These particular orders aren't going to do much. I was surprised that there wasn't more. Because this has been an administration that has been a bit excessive and it's executive rulemaking an executive orders so far and democratic party. That doesn't seem to want to be your believe it should be bound by Some of the normal rules of the game. I think it was very smart because to have gone any farther than this You know for instance to have medaled in the current background check system would have immediately invited lawsuits and those Provision probably would have been immediately put on hold a given some of the very clear rulings. We've had out of the supreme court establishing individual right now one problem here and i would just point this out. I keep going back to the court. It did issue. It's incredibly important. Ruling in district of columbia versus heller finding that individuals have a right to keep and bear arms and yet Didn't didn't get into specifics. End cases that have come along since then it has ducked and it is not further explained what the contours of the are. Because john. Roberts seems to not want to involve his court as much as he can in anything controversial And so you know. It's allowed this debate to just continue and fester and for the fights to continue going on in the legislative branch. But it is interesting here. I mean i. In absence of real executive authority. I mean one of the one of these. Executive actions is for the justice department to come up with and publish some model legislation for a red flag law. And the idea. There is that Someone who is deemed by through whatever process to be a potential threat could have firearms removed from them and Bill i suppose that the justice department is is free to offer those suggestions. But it's hard for me to imagine a lot of states particularly any red states Taking those recommendations on board yet it does seem as though they're going through the motions right because they've got all these practical limits on them so they announced something with great fanfare. You know some some big new development but it doesn't really materialize. And i think that's the dilemma. They have now. I don't think there's actually much they can do. You know in in the radical direction that they'd like to go. I just don't think they have the power. So they're pretending it's a lot of noise and fury in hoping people don't look past the curtain and see. The great is is really some pathetic middle aged man from kansas but in around of personnel being policy. Another piece of news. This week is abidance to lead the bureau of alcohol tobacco firearms and explosives and kim. What do you make of his his selection. I find this over the top nomination. I generally think that presidents are entitled to have their people around them. But what we saw when you're tandon. Who had been offered up for. The office of management and budget was bowled that there's also a fine balance between you know i'm people around you and then having people that aren't going to absolutely send The other side in congress you know over the bend because they are so partisan and this guy you know he's a he's a kind of anti gun fanatic A lot of people on the laughter or pointing out that he spent a couple of decades of his career working as special agent at atf. And suggesting that this is what makes him qualified. But i think what's more important is his more recent career for a while he was involved with Mike bloomberg's mayors against illegal guns campaign which is a very very Anti-gun or more recently. He's been a policy advisor for another extremely gun restrictions group called gifford's which is associated with former congresswoman gabby giffords who was unfortunately shot but it's One of the problems is that not only. Is this guy i mean. This is the equivalent about republican appointing ahead of the nra to run the atf. But you know the guy just he. He has really bad ideas. Doesn't seem to even understand the law you know he's he's been out there. There was a good column by david. Harsanyi at national review talking about how we gave a testimony before the house judiciary committee in in two thousand nineteen explained that assault weapons were quote virtually identical to those used by the military and quote. This is simply not true If he doesn't know the difference between a semiautomatic firearm and an automatic firearm he has no business being at the head of the atf. So i predict that this is going to be a very tough nomination. And that would be in keeping we have. We've had a lot of acting directors of atf It's been a hard position to fill in past it definitely could make for some interesting Senate hearings and particularly so because guns is one of those issues that doesn't split neatly on partisan lines and it has a lot to do with whether you're in a rural state or not and that's why bill of course As people remember bernie sanders was long a pretty staunch. Second amendment defender and So it could be interesting to watch this nominee go through the senate. I think it's very interesting. I was very disappointed in this. Because you know there's always liberal nominees progressive nominees to get through. That i would not i would on the otherwise oppose but to put someone who is really an activist at the head of the law enforcement agency. I think that's a new line. That's being crossed. I mean so. Many of our federal law enforcement agencies are suffering from such lack of credibility already. I don't think this is a good sign. I think people want to feel that the laws are being enforced fairly and honestly and not sure picking someone like this with his background that tributes to that perception fake. You came in bill. Thank you all for listening. We'll be back next week with another addition of potomac watch.

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"Back at mb summer league were in vegas everyone's in las vegas and boy did we get some high stakes gambling be eight over the past twenty four hours welcome into are perch here at thomas and mack i'm rachel nichols now we planned have two thousand eight champion kendrick perkins with us today we planned have are front office insider amino hasn't day but look who came onto the red download two hundred million dollar man we're all about justice you might be a little bit harder talking about zion and rj is summer league earthquake that rocked this building last night and then of course what has shaken then be eight for the last twenty four hours hawaii leonard and paul george teaming up with the clippers so much to get to here but dame i gotta say congratulations first signing that super max extension for years a hundred ninety six million dollars bail after that deal you will be making about fifty million dollars in one year would deserve your dollar i wanna say i wanna take a minute about that 'cause we talk about the money in the bag and all that stuff but from where you came from and how hard you work and people saying you were in a big time college recruit an undersized bnb eight to reach that level what did that mean to you i'm a minute live in a you know i think the the best part about me is the fact that i never play for a contract you know even when i first came into the league i was playing the game for the right reasons my heart was always in the right place you know are overtime i learned at that gives you what you deserve and as don't get you where you were supposed to be and i got my first extension in it and look at it and say all right i got a max contract you know in my eyes i had delivered to that and i know staying true to what i've always done and then i just brought me to this point so obviously like you said the money as great money is amazing but like i said i do it for the right reasons play for the love of the game on the competition knowing in toronto when it also 'em that still hasn't been done so as great as the money is once again i'm still 'em you know moving or something and i know you're still hungry gray i know this is gonna be like oh i got what i got entire west has basically fallen down and reformed around you you've answered the consistent one denver also pretty consistent utah has changed boy the lakers a chain boy the clippers parts of change you're the team they made it to the western conference finals recent year golden state warriors that other team across from you is no longer gonna be what they used to be kevin durant's not there claes not gonna be there for at least half the year where do you see the blazers fitting is hired you know what i think we in the right in that same spot a you know we're right there with the best teams in the league not just the western conference an eight year we've gone through different things you know whether that was a little bit more success and in the past or you know of dramatic self like the series against new orleans but i think just the experience is is helped us you know overtime and not thing once again taking that next step in getting to the western conference finals winning the game seven on a roll 'em going against inexperienced team like golden state and being a fifteen and all those games has given leads up i think that experience overall the filmmakers and even better team than the guys that we've had it you know i think we've added talent now we got a guy who can protect the pain we know three guys who are running back i think we've done enough to put ourselves back in position to be there again feline absolutely i thought they make great movies out see the but end kim buddies more i i know i know you i love turner as a as a as a guy friends but he didn't liberal pick replaces and i thought he should have we are in this new signs of my little dicky americans are thought gotta have him last year i thought the child would have had a better chance of beating voters say my thoughts are making tremendous fries and i love how neil sticking to his guns the fight with everyone said about you know find your coach the head coach jeff stood behind the young made major strides that just by new orleans this rodney hood and i love song whiteside yard deep and i love the direction they're going in and also by the way man i love how you set the bar pause were younger guys coming up there i may you don't need to go to do you don't have the go to north carolina you don't have the go to kansas kentucky still come out and build a it get drafted it'd be successful bill four hundred million dollar plus guy for contract and the doors of the man applaud you for that measure giving you some major size and got better you set the bar so now kids you know hey man i could go to this how it goes sign i don't have to go to these schools should applaud you for that day man always been a big fan of your own enough because you'll rap game ball way i say again beato signed last night though when you when the texter coming in about what about way earthquake now about collide leonard and paul george and believe it at first when they when my cousin told me he's a bar georgia's got traded to the clippers and then he followed that we can collide going there too and i was like that's that's not true in a pool and i got the full and walked over there like let me see i start searching on his phone and i saw i was really i was like wow that's a major like that's a major play major factors the fishing still have saucy hassan whiteside as a guy with a lot of potential yet moments in miami and some low moma's you're considered one of the best leaders and ambi you gotta play coming in with a reputation how you are coming in and how do you make them feel comfortable in the new environment for me just accept an offer who is you know you don't wanna have a guy come in and then you come out of mike you just think you know or all around me in here we've already talked and i told him i was like i understand you're gonna get mad sometimes you might not get the ball when you as opposed to coach my bitch you off you know the stuff that happened in our regardless have you mad if i'm upset or whatever you gotta be able to communicate mrs doubtfire whatever that frustration is will be better off because of it but i'm from open now no real crazy i've grown like why don't know how i just know how to light up the saint louis different types of personality so it's like i'm crazy i'm chris cradle i'm gonna run me off like me and all that be like all right well let's talk like man but as what i think is just respectable i'm rescheduling you respect we could figure it out talking about you're history with portland who are there were rumors at one point he damian lillard asper trade might wanna bota elway indiana you decided this is the team i wanna talk about you're dedication to the city portland a bunch of times in fact davis did asper trade and want it to go the lakers effective paul george did asper trade and wondering why what do you think when you see all of i think people on the business side teams decide they number the player and they make a move you know the thing is is business everybody say it's business team you know players do it is frowned upon must be doing something wrong but for me personally i'm not a team up type of person you know what i'm saying set it in the past like i would almost this rather if i'm gonna lose the william lynnwood knowing that i really mean that well you know what i prefer but let's just say let's see how i feel like i don't think there's nothing wrong with what guys are doing you know when i see it i just kind of get excited like okay there's a difference between teaming up in recruiting i think when when you talk about teaming up as like seems like you guys platinum come into one place all right let's go let's it is but like if you're just adding a pc attain like haiti going to the lakers adding adding a of one of the best player the end but if it's like all right let's get eighty and as you do and then for your end up on the same thing then i'm that's what i'm looking at like i could never do that right there is recruiting becoming a bigger part of being being used on tv talking about okay we gotta go after this guy next summer we gotta work on in here that kind of thing i mean if he did operate like we just be like when we talk about players that we could i will say well because he said he would stretch before we do that we don't look at it and say it's gonna be a free agent let go after him we never we just never had that type of conversation because i don't feel that way and neither does he now you can one of them is like watching him but if you're not out there search and like that from you've never never had those conversations let me ask you this what if neil for when you know the blazers management's hey this is the guy were really interested in we think he might be available and you do the talking because i know i like i don't hang out with a bunch of players being best friends and stuff like that but i know players and i'm cool with that situation presented itself and for someone presented by 'cause don't give his team a chance they improve and it's a real situation 'em so i mean of course by the way i do one person i loved by who's almost who we will one of my favorite guys saying that collins kidnap we are in the dead man he's a three hitter i see i see about their life do you want a real team is have an income we we let you go i do have to point now this may be a anytime all right hand lane coned dude got about a day look hey how you did it anyway hey mom fall below the whole thing just might be there might be one of the best game winners help in the history of the game that no juice we say now they know cap hit thirty but that ain't branko they wouldn't even celebrate her real like usual just make it in like celebrate what my team like that series has so much absolute cata i talk a lot of times you oh well you know you go when you do the usual prior to that moment but it is a good example of how tough it is in the west in this league in general you had this oklahoma city thunder team that has had a big stars they moved from seattle ray brandt rush paul george they thought they were gonna continue that cycle they signed fall through that big contract last year and then boom a year later they've got a second year in a row first round exit jordan brown reports now russell westbrook on the trading block they might try to just start over again sort of underscore how quick just you know come at you i mean is the is fragile anything could happen a player gonna be here one day over here tonight the hand committed to this thing one day in one it'd be traded like you just never know but just like what team players play for us fragile is also you can go from being a non playoff team to being in the finals but then think that's the part that people look past is like oh we lost in the first round we gotta go in every direction this coach he got outcoached in the conference finals he gotta get fired like sometimes when you stick it out is like they pay off for you that way but i think teams and players so quickly just jump here in jump to conclusions and all that that they not they not staying true to like sometimes you gotta take a lump still you gotta wait till the time time gonna come when you least expect it like that's what i believe so when we love the man who in that absolutely dan thank you so much for coming on today but i love you from the dollars would have done it multiple dollar outlet meal by the guy he ain't hundred million dollar you might be bode well for the listeners out there they got out of my pocket every single day really people put it's just everything that's jammed up because of all donations mine is one of the why that's been say we are making progress you miss differ predator we your help we need money research donating what helped get better treatment of such a good cause and welcome back to the so guys this whole crazy free agency period the one we've been talking about for more than two years the one that has seen a third of the league's top players which teams more than four billion dollars change hands you know just one helicopter chasing a lot of suv's down a highway maybe he's had the end here in las vegas you know there's no nb eighteen year but damn if this count does not represent dmv eight right now i don't know what does a game of high stakes right where franchises required to make increasingly huge gamble just a say in it think about this on this date just a year ago kawhi leonard would still in the spurs in the time since we have seen raptors precedent didn't messiah jiri throw his reputation the goodwill of toronto's fans franchises best start in the center of the table only that huge gamble pay off the jackpot's title that man echo through the streets street and then they had his fortune turn again this week as co why left town for good well how about thunder gm's impressing thought he scored the winning hand last summer when he's huge gamble on paul george seemed to pay off only to discover discover well this summer's the cards he was holding weren't as strong as he thought george our all and now russell westbrook is also reportedly on the trading block to you could expect to hear a lot of speculation over the next few days over exactly why paul outs with his trade whether he was unhappy with russ tried to put all of that to a halt last night he used this tweet eglin jimbo saying he's not here for any westbrook slander he also appeared in this story looks like my boy will be the other way where we going go home where you know that really tells you everything you need to know that this had a lot less to do with who he was leaving behind a lot more to do with who he was going to end where he was going you know pg idolized koby as a kid but he actually grew up a clippers fan and he now for his team in front of his friends and family he'll play with hawaii leonard who he has known since they were both at mid major colleges i mean look at these two babies in that hurling against each other on of course now thrown into not just to time finals mvp anna tucson defensive player of the year but the man who spent this week making policy warranted heavily recruited him according to ramona shelburne you know ramona was actually on the job a few days ago talking about why calling kevin durant's last week detroit a team up and how that with a red alert sign that the clippers would likely have to acquire a second star in order to land why possibly using the war chest trade assets that they had built up over the past year and my reaction then what's the same it is now that there is no priced too high for the clippers in this scenario yeah the list of assets adrian wards now she has reported that outlays giving up is staggering because yeah according to watch the thunder played this very smart bringing both the clippers and the raptors to the poker table to beat each other up but also yes it was still worth it for the clippers because it's not really just a trade of assets for paul george is a trade for paul george an hawaii leonard just like when the lakers gave up that whole bonanza anthony davis it wasn't really just a trade for eighty it was a trade for eighty in the maximize version of lebron james original bron you just weren't gonna get unless you've teamed up with another superstar star and now well both elway franchises are all in having mortgaged their futures first seat at the high roller table and why not really rate gm's around la haven't watched and they seen or celtics were very careful methodical school play it safe planning got them or how the warriors don't wanna be best roster is of all time and it still wasn't enough to keep k day simply nothing about the future is guaranteed in this league anymore so why not pushing all your chips and lives like there's no tomorrow it's what they do here in las vegas and i would bet we're gonna see a lot more of that for years when you think about what the clippers did hear how much they gave up and who they now have on this roster has its co why it's paul george and by the way also pat actually alone on nineteen kennedy incense crazy they're gonna say wrecked his defense of the i tweeted last night i wouldn't be surprised if they average thirty still i mean like this is something that we might not ever seeing a lifetime with these three three defensive guys but you gotta give a lot of credit to the clippers first of all i mean i said this and the me i said this on my daughter died when their job some balls all look at dr jay z balder sohn beyond say saw it happening but you gotta give a lot of critical why in his uncle by the way why listen so why are starting to become a a major a major player in this league i say he's more i i compare him to nj on the court just because the way he plays but now with this power move that he made to force a team guy the gold says organization a foursome the trade him now he's doing he's doing things that lebron james do off the court echo wind saying to the world hey man i'm here i'm i'm that guy i'm that guy just make power moves i'm controlling is not only did he do that he went against one of the best franchises a ever in the san antonio spurs nobody ever went to war with the spurs he did it turned out best for him that speaks volumes then i think why starting to find his way in he's starting to consider himself is really one of those top guys say when you mentioned the ball and when you mentioned kevin the rat you better medicine mundane say sniffing out by the way joining us as well you don't look like damian lillard and back from the break what do you make because you've been covering the warriors this past year you saw that dynasty splinter apart and now you've got to powers rising to the south in los angeles if the clippers stay healthy rates that's the same that they can do it because they have all the pieces in play right now in the what burke saying doc knows how to build one and that is a huge kita made you have all the pieces there but you gotta have the the person in place the make it all work up the little doc rivers knows how to do and nominated laws that absolutely we stayed in boston and we know he knows how to both bill teams and take team throughout a regular he knows what he's gonna do it why with load management we've got paul george coming off in surgery he'll know exactly which button the fred and that team watching the clippers talking to the warriors about the clippers for in the last few months graham monica katie and all those guys said this team is going to be for real and that was before that it starts now with stars the sky's the limit rachel yesterday was a triumph for doing things the right way the right way by brown always used to talk playing the right way the clippers ran their organization the right way they were cap conscious they drafted well they developed talent that a great coach front office and ownership all on the same page nobody stepped on each other's so jerry west maybe the greatest executive all time in the whole by this point the gray hair so but all of that is why scrapbooks don't matter banners don't matter what matters is what we're doing today and that's a resident of water and then the other part of this first hit it on the head we've been thinking about quiet leonard at the player he's really good but he just wants to play when he announced himself i am a superstar in this league i make power move all hell why first of his name he rain totals tell me is that day man is not sign the bill free to a little bit more brutal brutal all right so that's the clippers i wanna turn to the lakers however rowley 'cause we have i'm so pleased about this part of this pittsburgh the marcus cousins has indeed agreed to a one year three and a half a million dollar deal with the lakers and this is gonna be in even broader pelicans reunion will be in the browser plus maybe because we let me see let me see it rondo all right so a first of all perks reporting ghettos again but i mean i want you to sort of look at this roster straight this is they're filling out a little bit of a scramble once why made a decision because they needed to do a lot before noon eastern today in the deal start executing that even just their anthony davis deal but other deals around reagan trade starting to go through what do you think of that right there and what they've done in the wake of fly turning the first of all this was the wrist they knew they were taking to me when you have an opportunity get quiet leonard hewlett without risk that also means hewlett well what happens when it doesn't work out and so they have some things it looked like lined up denigrating brenston standing order of partisan come here you got this waiting on you that the great pick up right there but then the one thing i wanna say about this ross says it right so i think it's got talent it's older and also showed on defense got danny green you got anthony davis lebron plays defense when he wants to bob and that's not november december january rondo the sub floors quick cooks not a great defender daredevil support coups without a good defender years and i've been shot blocker go above could be good defensively so that's a lot of question marks negative on the defensive end only a couple in positive by losing losing lonzo ball that sort of thing on talk radio any david harsanyi an ingram played a lot of their defensive numbers especially earlier in the heart those three players were very important but i'm defensively so you like the talent you like your potential but my question is are they gonna be able to call people will say this my thing i've been very critical of the lakers today deserved it but i tell you what they may they may they they got my approval and all this today first of all you had nothing but championship experience they have so many champions on this team they have so many guys with chip on their shoulder you know king james is coming back with a vengeance anthony davis i hadn't seen him look this good in a minute but his body structure you know demarcus marcus cousins have some the proof we all know that was a rod those the mastermind a basketball we all know that jared dudley here's the grains posey over two thousand eight boston status that the cop okay day he'd go do it and put it back up with his body on the line and i love it against what would not sign nicole why get to get to it helps the most cow coups for now we get to see him be the guy who he wants because what did they would assign co why they would've took away from the bill and the playing time coups so i say hey i'm looking at the lakers and the clippers in the western conference finals okay well first of all damian lillard made a very good case for his blazers and i think he's right i don't wanna get some of these other teams that don't have as much right now are still coming up made some serious mood a foreign is still up there this competitive conference and i love the balance we have because yeah i think the clippers get to be the favorites but the lakers could be really good the nets start you know we don't know what they're gonna be would just kyri next year but then they're gonna have katie in the mix philadelphia is gonna be really good milwaukee is gonna be really good were gonna see balance around the league that we have not seen in years there's there's and excitement throughout all mbh rates that and been there in a long long again because everybody realizes this they walk in the next year with a shot but a lotta times it was kinda like i the last three years well it's or it's the words if they stay healthy they're gonna roll in sometimes they do sometimes they didn't but as far as the lakers go when you look at that roster that is eight professional group for the guys they brought in know how to play they know what to do the win they only thing that scares me is the braun is gonna be thirty five better do it right now the lakers window is right now i just don't know if they have the star power throughout the regular season and put possibly long postseasons stretch to finish it out well we i tell them to pick up marcus morris today rumor that or is that that's not gonna have the will see will see if they could make any other small additions around as we go i think we wanna get back a little bit were gonna break now we'll talk a little bit about russell westbrook we also at some point the shark attack a little bit about what happened in this building last night because there is an earthquake and also zion williamson will get it all the were experiencing it earthquake right now well yesterday we'll download our audio here there is a lot going on here at summer league last night we will talk more about it because another edition of the job is gonna follow this summer league game where about the sea before we go from this and now i wanna get to russell westbrook because woes reporting residents agent talking to the thunder about the next step of his career whether it's time to move on now he does have for years hundred seventy million dollars left on his contract thunder eve are in the luxury tax now so the move them to make a change perky played on this team you played with these guys what do you think about the idea of russia maybe moving on from oklahoma said it's and it's a very on the move on the simple fact of what the trade a pg that means that the thunder thinking about rebuild their list of roughly the organization in the history of points six rebounds steals it whatever the case may be so i think russia's top of him the move all i think then he goes in the electric company conversation with sam presi and i think he moves off i talked to i think i see him in the miami heat jersey i have heard about the heater you telling us that that say in friday does that's why you know with jimmy butler d or whether they were supposed to arrogantly that isn't opinion right now what do you think about the idea of someone taking that contract because you side tops out at around again

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Episode 305: Unconfirmed and Unsuitable

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Episode 305: Unconfirmed and Unsuitable

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Going down and becerra under fire amazon bands ryan anderson's book and the latest on the kobe. Relief bill will discuss all this and more on this edition of the editors under slavery. And i'm joined his voice or at least some of the time by the right on apple. Charles w cook and alexandra zan sanctis garrison. Nbd will return soon. You're listening to a national. You podcast or sponsor this week is the new documentary that dissident more about that in due course if you listen to this podcast nash. Review dot com cleaned directly on the corner would light it. Have you be easier for you and better for us. Made part your feed editing. The streaming services out there from spotify to items. You like what you hear. Please consider giving us a glowing five star review on itunes. If you don't like what you hear here please forget. I said anything so zan. Something terrible has happened to nira. Tandon her social media posts have come back to bite her. Joe mansion came out again. Stir than there is some hope that you have some more. Moderate republicans saver. That didn't work. You had murkowski and romney say no. We're not voting for either. So it looks like she's going to be sunk and we now have tweets and stories. Alleging this is all about sexism and racism and deeply unfair. What do you make of it. You know. I wouldn't say that near attendant is my least favorite of biden's cabinet picks and i wasn't particularly exercised about her nomination. I think it's probably better than not on the whole for conservatives that she not get the position in her nomination is indeed sunk. That's probably a good thing. But the bad news is it's not she'll be replaced with someone that conservatives love i'm sure the next nominee will be troubling interest. Perhaps someone who's not troubling in that she or he has tweeted at malicious things at sitting. Us senators so it's not necessarily a win as if we're going to get somebody that we like in the next round but i do think she would have probably pretty bad at the job. I think the reason for taking her nomination for good ones. It was also good to see. I think that joe manchin is willing to vote against the democrats on nomination that they do care about known as necessary fighting tooth and nail to the death for her to be confirmed but it was encouraging to see that mansion is willing to go against the democrats in gives me a bit of hope. He'll do that on on issues or on. Nomination is that matter a bit more to me. If they're troublesome enough. Charlie point not as she is the worst of the the biden nominees. She's relatively moderate democrat. Been at war with bernie forces for a long time but these were incredibly obnoxious tweets incredibly impolitic. If if you really want be in a senate confirm position ever. I guess you hadn't thought ahead In that respect she didn't generate a huge twitter audience. Which is very seductive. But you could just sort of We want when we talked about her couple months ago. He just see switch one off one day she decided. This is what i'm gonna do. I'm gonna have hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of followers and i'm going to cater to them with like the dumbest and most obnoxious tweets. I can possibly come up with. But what i worry about the ridiculous charge that this is a sexism or part pattern of racism in consideration. Abidance nominees is clearly meant to work. The ref and the ref is joe mansion and may compare a political price and make them think about doing this again. I caught wait for the expletive laden tweets. We'll see when she is finally voted down a return to form for near attendant. I think is is imminent. I'm glad that she's going to go down. And the reason for that is that. I believe that people should live by the rules that they set for others and the democrats have a federal level. The state level set a bunch of rules within our culture and within our politics and they should be made to abide by them. I do not think that the average person including people in public view should be condemned forever for rude intemperate l. Advise stephen profane tweets. But they do. I don't think that people who slip up in a meeting a name. A victim of sexual assault should be lambasted and pushed to the margins of society and fired and rented on higher. -able but they do. I don't think that people who lose their tampon push. Somebody should Be todd forever by that era. But they do. And i don't think that people who get carried away and indulge conspiracy theories it's near attendant has most notably that there was something untoward about donald trump. Replacing anthony kennedy should be dismissed. But they do. It has been absolutely bizarre to watch. Democrats and democrat aligned rises within the press. Astonished that anyone would try to hold tandon to account for all of the things that she said even ask they dismiss the idea. There is such a thing as council culture while endorsing the decisions that cancel culture and its council culture warriors. Arrive at the way. I see this. is as a means by which the people in our society who have given up on redemption who do not consider apologies to be useful and who go searching around the internet for examples of transgressions made to live for once by their own rules. And the the idea that doing that. He's in some way. The productiuve racism. Sexism is foolish. Suzanne yet another argument here has been that. Donald trump got away with his tweets which one is not quite true i think donald trump's tweets had some significant role in his Losing the election which pretty big consequences to play to. This is totally different. You know trump's was running for a national elected office. Highest elected office and land not seeking senate confirmed position and if he had sought a senate confirmed positions with his twitter record. He probably wouldn't have gotten to confirm for anything right. I i think that's absolutely absurd comparison. I mean the idea. That that trump got away with his tweets fronting. He's been banned from twitter now forever so we didn't really end up getting away with anything and if any i've always said from the very beginning i think trump's tweeting was worse for him than for anybody. He only twitter advant him sooner. He might have been a much better office. President had a much higher approval rating and everything else may even been reelected if had been sort of forced into prudent handling of social media But as you say he was not up for senate confirmation and almost certainly would not have been And to use this as an example you know. Obviously the facts are different. And so it's a stupid comparison to begin with but it's also almost invalidating. The left's own position on trump's tweets. Which is these tweets are awful. Not public leaders. Tweet like this. We should never take someone seriously if they tweet like this degrading to our government to have leaders like this in positions of power. It's bad for america. It's bad for our culture and then went to their person who is tweeting in a comparable manner they say. Oh well what do you care. Your guy did it too. It doesn't matter so clearly. They don't believe their own arguments. They only use against political officials whose views they disagree with. So charlie i. If i if i could choose between tanning going down and sarah going down wouldn't be close. I think sarah's a must more momentous nominee he is completely unqualified and is a ruthless aggressor in the culture. Wars on every single front. You can make it's kind of a cliche. Oh is by doing x. or y. if he seeks to be a unifier but but this pick just totally puts the lie to the idea that a there's any serious attempt at unifying when you put a guy hostile to people of faith hostile to pro-lifers one wants to crush them under the foot of the state into such a sensitive position or seek to. Yeah i would slightly shop at. You'll criticism of him in the there are elements within our culture will the Legitimately up for dispute. Some of our cultural is just that a culture war set of disagreements that will obtain in any free society as to what a civil society should look like because is a lot worse than that in the he is an enemy of the constitution and of classical liberalism. He's not a guy who has a podcast and is rude about people intolerant. He's not a guy who makes speeches at oberlin. He's not a guy with a large twitter following she says not near tendon. A guy who has used the power of the state our most populous state are wealthiest state to go off the people who dissent from the majority of from prevailing wishes at the government that he represents this is a man who has no time for conscience rights. We have to get sucked into these disputes over religion. And that's all well and good but most of our religious disputes are are not religious disputes in the way that they were three or four hundred years ago. We're not arguing over which state religion we should adopt all whether we should permit catholics to become citizens or whether home rule is a good idea. We are asking whether we're going to create a space in our society for the dissenters for people who have fundamentally different conceptions of the world than does the majority oil or does the incumbent. There are people in america who have essentially opted out of the mainstream. The amish nuns and stay live in a different way than the rest of us and xavi akara has absolutely no time for those people. He doesn't think that their rights match and he doesn't respect the integrity of that worldview and as a as a an addendum to that he is used the power of the government to go off to people who are engaged in first amendment protected activities and he was called out. I believe by mother jones. No right-wing all pro religion institution and by the new york times for having done so. I think we ought to see him. I you do but in our language we ought to see him as what he is. He is somebody who sit suppose to the elementary classical liberalism that underpins the us constitution and to which he would. If given this job swear an oath yes zana a little bit road piece earlier this week into the little sisters case and this is really just just hideous so little sisters drawn through a drag through five years of litigation to get an exemption. It finally comes in the trump administration that says little sisters. Don't have to sign a form that supposedly opting out but it's actually getting the government put the contraception coverage on their insurance plan. We're not going to do that. But if there's there anyone who's you know for some reason left out of the little sisters and can't get contraception coverage. We're gonna give it to people through the government. That's what the trump administration said. No harm no foul right. No one i mean they never come up with a victim of the these exemptions anyway but even if there were in theory. It's just that that person is going to be taken care of. And then the sarah comes in. He's he's the california attorney general. This isn't a california law is not a california agency that came up with the exemption. It's a federal law federal agency that came up the exemption and he sues the federal government to say no you cannot give an exemption to this order of nuns so to to respect their conscious rights. And now it's been dragging on again and it's been up to the supreme court again. Where the the the court is again basically said this exemption it is fine and appropriate but now bizarre to still contesting it on a process grounds. And there's just goes to. Charlie's point this is a culture warrior who can't stand the idea that there are people who have sincerely and deeply held moral beliefs different than his. He just can't stand the idea. Does this group of nuns who deeply object to Contraception abortion abortion abortifacents. And he's gonna make them come. Try to make them come to heal. No it's true. And sarah has made a career out of doing basically nothing related to actual healthcare. He has no relevant experience for this position but he's famous as a progressive politician for doing exactly that he has used his position as a g to consistently sue the federal government on during the trump administration over policies that he disagrees he leads these coalitions of democratic attorney generals and sues the trump administration so he sued over the little sisters of the poor Being given a religious exemption from the contraceptive mandate which by the way as head of hhs he would be in charge of reinstating and enforcing against them. So troubling sign on trade. All altuve zealous about that project. He sued the federal government over the title ten rule which prevented planned parenthood and other abortion providers from getting out family planning funding under the federal title ten program. That's another decision that he would be in charge of undoing as a head. Hhs and he sues the federal government at the drop of a hat over policies that he disagrees with. He's trying to a challenge. An fda policy that requires women to obtain chemical abortions in person rather than through the mail so anytime he sees some kind of culture war problem. Something somewhere in the country whether it's the federal government or an organization not even in california that is not operating according to the progressive culture standards of everybody getting their sort their free contraception and abortion funded by their employer. Funded by the government. He takes on himself. As the progressive culture warrior. The responsibility of bullying them with his power as government official into submission. He did it. In the state of california he tried to force pro life pregnancy centers to refer people coming for abortion alternatives to the states low or free abortion for cost free abortion program. He tried to force lifers to essentially advertise for the state's abortion program. So this man has no respect for anybody who disagrees with him and essentially no position. I can think of the federal government that would be more dangerous to have an ideologue like that in power. Hhs troy cook ex questions. You will be confirmed. Yes or no no i. I don't think so. No i'm gonna say no. I have a little doubt. I'm worried that mansion is going to use a balls capital on tandon and this this interior secretary. Who's also kind of a nightmare. But there's really there's no good argument for opposing tan and then supporting bezerra. Who is every bit as is radioactive. And it hasn't just been on twitter. It's been in real life wielding real governmental power with that. Let's pause and hear from our sponsor this week. The dissident on october second twenty eighteen respected washington post journalist. Jamal kashogi entered the saudi consulate in istanbul turkey. He was never seen alive again at a time. When america's focused on its own domestic crises. There's one movie that reminds us. There are unbelievable and shocking events unfolding on a global scale the new documentary. The dissident boldly looks into the events and intrigue surrounding the murder. That shocked the world. Senator lindsey graham says. There's not a smoking gun. There's a smoking saw the movie. Not only on earth new proof that exposes his killer. Senator rand paul states. The evidence is overwhelming that the crown prince was involved playing out at the highest levels of power and wealth. The associated press calls the dissident a real life thriller. Are you ready for the truth from the academy award winning director of ecus the dissident rated. Pg thirteen now playing at home on demand. So charlie we got it. Got good cancelling This week already recording. Early tuesday afternoon i guess over the weekend were came down. That amazon has removed a ryan. Anderson book Ryan is now the president of the ethics and public policy center He's a successor to the great. Ed whalen wonderful friend of ours and this book from not mistaken came out a while ago so it just seemed totally random that all of a sudden this this book about transgender issues. Taken a very traditional View of of these matters. You know not not Not compromising their milk does but well reasons and civil it's just bizarre also amazon. Come and pick it off now. I think michael brandon not put this very well in his column on the topic amazon. Nativities go down this road. We'll be changing what it does. That's the company it's suppose to be a facilitator of transactions between people who want to sell things and people who want to buy things with a few exceptions compliance with the law and perhaps item sadda- sub-standard in quality and therefore dangerous amazon has not taken a position on what sells and especially when it comes to books in fact the appeal of amazon other than it's being online in the first instance was the scale of its inventory and its willingness and ability to hunt down and find books that you wouldn't be able to find in a small local bookstore Often even in bonds and noble and now it seems to wish to interpose itself between the seller and the customer and act test. Arbiter of it is of course legally permitted to do that but it would be ill advised to and it would also chooses to do so reflect deeply illiberal strain within the culture that is the moment at least becoming more and more obvious on the broader question of the debate over the laws that should govern people who consider themselves to be transgender. I personally see the tactics and the vehemence used by trans activists as a sign of weakness. I think that they know somewhere. That much of what they say is false and that when Critics or opponents ryan anderson is one of those argue with them. They're not doing so out of hate or out of a desire to see trans people murdered but out of a legitimate set of disagreements and that the trans movement frequently if not always suggest otherwise and that it's mo now is to shut down get fired get removed wherever it can is alarming but it is also i think we should remember a sign of weakness When your argument stand up and when people agree with you and when your opponents really are beyond the pale you don't have to behave like that. So i have hope in the long run on this as we discussed late last week because i think eventually there will be backlash against this so uh zan conflict here your fellow at e. Ppc in addition to being at at nsf. Ask about ryan you have to say. He's a reasonable guy. And i just have to say i'm a reasonable guy if anyone questions it but he is a very reasonable guy. He goes out of his way to make these these arguments and the most civil way possible genuinely interested as very few people are now in our political culture in debate in reasoned discussion. And they're coming in getting him. I mean it's it's good to disclose my My second affiliation. But i will say. I've been a fan of ryan anderson work. Since honestly i was in high school i read. What is marriage which he co wrote with Schrief gear gifts and raby george making the case against a redefinition of marriage away from being between one man and one woman and i've been a fan of his for that long. You know not only because he makes the case for the things. I agree with but because i think he's one of honestly very few social conservatives who's able to do so in a well reasoned articulate and compassionate way. It's not sort of kind of a knee jerk. Right wing Backlash through the way. The left argues about these things. It's not a sort of parallel response to the poor arguments on the left. It's a very sound case for traditional values when it comes to gender when it comes to abortion these sorts of hot button issues. He's always been one of my go-to voices and that's why to me it so especially troubling to see something like this happened. Because if you can't. Have someone like ryan anderson who is remarkably well educated on these issues and remarkably thoughtful and remarkably kind in his interactions with people. He disagrees with know unfailingly. So if he can't argue against the intense radicalization of gender ideology seemingly taking over everything in the span of two to three years. No one will be allowed to argue for the things that he's arguing for in. His book is truly one of the most rational well-researched well-thought-out arguments against the of gender as kind of the spectrum that i've come across and it's full of facts it's full of interviews. It's as good of a case as you could find or hope to find an if that's not permitted at amazon. We have a serious problem. That just means that. No one is allowed to defy the orthodoxy that sort of rising orthodoxy of a vocal minority of trans activists in. What's obviously that's a big issue. But if amazon is now going to put its thumb on the scale against that sort of case. There aren't really very many spaces or that debate can happen if it's now impossible to buy a book making that case from probably the biggest online marketplace for buying books where you're going to get it i suppose you can keep buying the books and the publisher wherever up but it sends a message about what kind of arguments are going to be permitted in our culture charlie. Do we know how this came about. Because you usually have. A cancelling or firing and there's a twitter hashtag trending. I mean it's obviously not a mass movement in the country. But you can you can. If she's paying some attention you can see it. Bubbling up where the seemed to come from nowhere. We don't know. And i think that's one of the most sinister parts of this that it seems that there is usually a process by which a book is removed or its entry on amazon is altered and yet hit. This happened in the dead of night and without any communication a toll. The idea that this book in particular is so insidious or so dangerous that it has to be removed in this way. Just doesn't stand up to scrutiny when you consider that you can still buy in multiple formats and multiple language. Mein kampf by adolf hitler and there is no change in the rules of which this has fallen foul. Whatever has happened here and quietly and deliberately x. question to us in three years from now. Let's say you expect the amount of latitude given to traditional critiques of trans radicalism to have increased or to have shrunk. You know. I think it probably will have increased and my reason for saying that i think people are starting to get sick of cancel culture whether it's on an issue like this or just in general and i think people by and large are okay with opinions. They disagree with being put out there. And they'll they'll get sick of having their access to those views. Limited cook is already on the record that there's going to be a backlash but we're we're testing that the timeframe here at three years from now charley grown or shrunk. I think it will be beginning to shrink three years from now. It will have a loud so so you think they'll be more latitude. The amount of latitude for this kind of discussion will have increased incorrect. In three years. I say it will have a continued to shrink. I think we have a backlash over the long run. But it's going to be the long run and with that. Let me do a quick plug for npr. 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Well it doesn't matter whether they get a favorable ruling from the senate parliamentarian in both cinema mansion who said that they're against putting that into the bill so unless they go along with it anyway. Which i suppose is possible that element seems to be doomed. But what is more interesting than democrats are pushing for. This is that a republican in fact to republicans mitt. Romney and tom cotton have k. Salt off on pad. A minimum wage increase will be at a much smaller minimum wage increase than the democratic party. Writ large wants with the addition of e-verify which is long held republican goal and would go some way. Republicans think to cub ing illegal immigration. This is on the face of it. A deal of the sort that we are constantly told by political commentators used to represent daily business in congress. This is a compromise. It's a bipartisan initiative. A quid pro quo. And yet i think most likely will fail. Republicans will like the e-verify bit and democrats will like the minimum wage increase. So be it smaller than they want. And probably neither. We'll see any great incentive and saying yes because politics now is primarily about activating the base and blaming inaction on the other side. I am against any federal minimum wage whatsoever. I don't think there's any constitutional permission for it. And i think it's economically silly. I don't like wages per se. I think there an imposition in the labor market. That hurts some of the most vulnerable Bought if they are to exist they should exist at the state level. It seems absolutely bizarre to me for washington. Dc to set the same rules in. Mississippi is obtaining in san francisco. Nevertheless i think that romney and cotton should in some way be applauded for trying to come up with a deal. It's just the it's almost certainly not going to happen. Is and i think this is really clever because immigration restrictions for a long time tried to make the case that this this isn't just a security issue or cultural issue it's it's economic issue has consequences for the state of the labour market if you're flooding the part of the labor market where people naturally struggle and the twenty first century economy which people without high school degrees. It's it's really kind of a travesty to flood the market with more people without high school degrees from from elsewhere. So i think this is. This is true to pair up the minimum wage. Increase in the indexing of it with e-verify. And i also think there is a tactical consideration at work here for cotton and romney just sort of wanting to signal in case. There's a lot of pressure. I'm soon that will be a if there's on on mansion and cinema of republicans are so unreasonable. You just gotta go along with with with us trying to jam this jam the through in this bill they can point to this proposal and say well. Actually maybe if we tap the breaks and try to talk about some sort of compromise. Maybe something will come up. what do you make. i do think it's smart to signal a willingness to compromise Especially when you pair. A more moderate facing senator like romney with cotton who is typically perceived as much more. Far right and romney will vote with the democrats Some of the time on some things most notably impeachment so to have the two of them supporting one. Bill seems like a good optical move. At least i agree with charlie on on principle and in substance. I don't agree with a federal minimum wage law that pairing it with immigration portion. Almost seems to me like a a nod to people who voted for trump and the types of people who supported trump because of his immigration restriction. Ism not because they don't like having non-americans come to america and become citizens But because they are the people who will be most disadvantaged by an influx of illegal workers And so i think having republicans kind of take up the mantle and maybe a more sensible and thoughtful way and and showing those people that conservative still do care about the things that that trump was talking about an are willing to put their money where their mouth is on. Those sorts of policies is another good. Move kind of trying to move on from the trump era in a constructive. Way so charlie. Then there's the substance of the underlying bill where he got the the huge top line number one point nine which a lot of people pointed out is just it's it's bigger than the whole in demand and at a time when the economy is is naturally going to be a recovering even more. We've seen a drastic decline. Thank god in kobe cases. Vaccinations have as as we've discussed previously. Have been settling steadily. picking up. Axios had an item the other day on how the best vaccination effort in the world so all those factors will create a loosening restrictions which are already seeing in places like a new york that have been harshest throughout the pandemic. and then there's the question of how much of the spending is actually going to happen in a timely manner. Our friend rory cooper who wrote a reopening peace for a while ago and is very active on twitter on school reopening issue. Just just points out that the spending that the biden folks say is in this bill and that's absolutely necessary to reopen. The schools of close can't safely reopen without the spending is going to be spent some of it for years at the same time. You have the the money allocated for education in the prior code bills just sitting around still unspent. That just doesn't make any sense at all. It's amazing isn't it. That having come into office one month ago and found there was no plan whatsoever for corona virus. Joe biden spanish to get us up to the best vaccination program in the world in in twenty three days. Congratulations joe dishonest hack. That man can be. I would rip this bill up. I think we need it. I accept there are some areas on which congress should focus. Its attention and there are some things we need to spend money on. But the this has become a slush fund. it's become a general democratic priority list and at a time when we really don't have spare money lying around and the imperative to spend money irrespective of whether we have spare money lying around has gone. I think this is is foolish in the extreme and now you would expect me to say that. Of course because i don't like government spending money at him particularly like governments. But it's not just me. A number of people across the political spectrum pointed out that much of the money in this bill won't be spent by the end of the year and some of it not even by the end of next year others have pointed out that it might be a bad idea to include some of the extended unemployment benefits. If you want people to go back to work which as we vaccinate more people we do. Republicans have objected to the sunday spending on state some of which seems to be a bailout for profligacy. And larry summa's most famously has worried about the effects of the bill not just on the debt but on inflation as well. My view of this bill is a rule is that it has been overtaken by events. I understand that the train is now heading down the track. I understand that biden and democrats in the senate one to use reconciliation. I understand is difficult to back down. When you've gone. This far. I understand that many democrats and some republicans think that it will be good politics to spend a lot of money and send more people checks but that doesn't mean that it is a good idea. And if i were a senator. I would argue that. We should stop take stock of where we are given that. There is no pressing need and that most of the spending would be delayed. Take a break and work out. What needs to be done with. Clear is zanex questions. You asked us a couple of weeks ago and a previous app. What will be the final top line number of the kobe. Relief bill swing passes. Congress top line number be specific. I mean that's very hard to predict. I would think it would probably be less than it is now if it passes. But i don't know if that i can put an actual number on it you gotta put an actual number on it. And maybe one one billion trillion trillion. That was the talks are evil moments naive. Yeah there would've been a time when a one point nine billion dollars bill would have been i get my millions and trillions alexandra if i would take a one billion dollar bill even if they would just send spending it on on posters to put around the entire country just taking shots at me one have worry about one billion dollars anymore. The when money's fake you lose track exactly one trillion. That's what i meant so way down one trillion charlie. So i think you're a little less than the last time we we asked about this. Maybe i forget what you like. One point seven or something. I think it's going to be one point full. I think they're going to strip out of the blue state bailout money. I think they're going to pay back. Some of the explicitly. Antique oviedo rather kovic mitigating funds. And i think that they will end up on one point four. Maybe on point five. So i hope both of you guys are right. I'm still. I'm still a one point. Nine guy i think they're. They're given an inch on this thing or we'll have to hope i'm wrong. Let's hit a few other things before we go. Zan you become a member of cosco. I have in my family. My parents have been costco members. Since i was a kid but now i'm living my own getting ready to get married. Seemed like the right time to get my own membership. And i cannot be more glad that i've done so you have to go to the store far less often you get much more bang for your buck and if you have the storage space. I highly recommend charlie cook. You had a normal dinner the other night out. But did i did. How your house normal dinner at a restaurant. It was the first time my wife didn't try to poison me in a year and a half now. Yeah we went out for dinner with some friends and it really felt normal and the only thing that was different about the entire experience was that the is wearing masks but we waited forty five minutes to get table. That's how busy it was. There was no obvious. Corona virus mitigation activity all the tables and this restaurant booths. Oh i don't know the rules are different. But they will when up to the bar at wants to sitting at the bar chatting know. Bartender has has a mosque but other than that. The mosques it for the first time felt like going out for dinner did a year and a bit ago it was. It was nice. So i've been reading. This book mentioned it a couple episodes ago. Actually i finish books that i'm reading zanu early. Try much better than me. In that regard but it had a section on douglas mccarthur because dominion of war history warfare in north america tremendously illuminating book. But anyway the the final section on douglas mccarthur ends with this nine hundred sixty two speech at at west point which is just. It's just extraordinary. It's an extraordinary thing and this is how it ends. I listened vainly thirsty year for the witching. Melody of faint bugles blowing. Reveille drums beating the long role in my dreams. I hear again the crash of guns. The radical musketry the strange more mournful mutter the battlefield but in the evening of my memory always come back to west point always there. Echoes in re re echoes. Deeply honor country to today marks my final rollcall with you. I want you to know that. Want across the river. My last conscious thoughts will be of the core and the core and the core. I bid you fare well so with that. Then it's time for editors fix what's your pick pick is a piece from david harsanyi called found. She is not your god. I think this is a great response to the turn that dr fauci seems to have taken his rhetoric enacting someone who has been pretty down the line on fetchy fund beginning. I've never been a huge fan. Never been a huge critic. Necessarily i think he's had a lot of very strong moments and obviously has done a lot for country. I think it's appropriate now to criticize the way he's going especially given data that we have and david jessica drought laying out all the reasons to do. So you're picking. I like ramesh. Canoes response to those who have responded to his washington. Post column about joe biden catholocism and abortion. Which she correct with. Robert p george sometimes reading ramesh dismantle. Someone is greatly pleasurable and less. He's dismantling you which he has done to me a few times on the corner bahir. He's dismantling other people who have written with silly objections to his argument. And it is a pleasure. My pick is by one of our fellows named isaac shore called the revenge of near tendons tweets. And our jim is a feeling a little bit. Under the weather. Isaac had to pinch hit on real short notice on doing the morning. Jolt which is big phil and just did an extraordinary job. Check out this piece if you haven't already so that's it for us. You've been listening to a podcast. Any rebroadcast re transmission or account. This game without the express written permission of naturally magazine is strictly prohibited. This podcast has been bruce by the incomparable. Sarah should he makes it sound better than we deserve. Thanks to the dissident. Thanks charlie thanks. Zan thanks especially to all of you for listening. We are the editors and we'll see you buddy.

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What If?

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I was wondering if you could introduce yourself My name is fitter and however you'd like to be identified My Name is Rosa Brooks I'm a law professor at Georgetown University is spent several years working at the defense. Department during the Obama Administration and could say more but suffice it to say Rosa is pretty well connected in DC political circles and the reason we called her up. Is because this past summer, she found herself at the center of a kind of political choose your own adventure adventure. Well, I started thinking about this sometime last autumn this two, thousand, nineteen, I was at a dinner. One of those Washington DC inside the beltway dinners where everybody's reading name Tags and their dinner speakers and You know you're eating bad chicken and I was sitting next to a federal appellate court judge and various fancy DC lawyers and we started chatting about Donald Trump, which is what people chat about, of course, and I said. You know Gosh what if trump loses and he won't step down? We commit to making sure that there is a peaceful transfer of power after the election won't leave. You want to get rid of the ballots and you'll have very transfer whoever very peaceful that won't be transferred. Frankly, they'll be a continuation and the judge said Oh that would never happen. The military would never let that happen and and I sort of thought wait wait what The military would never let happen. What do you? What do you mean by that? Rose a new the military. So I mean I spend I'm married to a retired Army Special Forces officer I spent several years working at the Pentagon. So she was sitting there looking at this thinking what's behind that assumption when you say the military would never let it happen. What exactly do you mean? The military has a Million and a half people there stationed all over the way who you think is giving what order that you like. Were you sitting there thinking about the chain of command mapping it out like Oh, this person would have to talk to this person and then I. Guess They'd have. To know that I'm sitting everybody else's chattering away and I'm kind of sitting there thinking wait a minute. Wait wait and we all change the subject because you know this was nearly a year ago and I realized I was sort of sounding like a crazy person. This sort of casual dinner chat was long before trump made the famous statements about how he might not commit to a peaceful transition of power but there was something about that dinner. And that guy next to hers response the combination of certainty and vagueness. Scott. are, thinking. If the president did decide to go way off the grid and do something like not leave. What would happen like what specifically would happen to sitting alone in my spare time thinking about okay. So that happens well, then we will that happen. So then what will if you make this choice what happens the choose your own adventure book this you know if you decide to start through the dark jungle path turn to page thirty seven. If you decide to stay in the sunny by a tiger. Nicely. So roses starts thinking about all this spinning out on the what ifs at some point. On the phone with a colleague of Hers Nils. Gilman. At the Berggruen Institute and I told Mills Mills this you know I've been thinking about ways to really explore these branching pathways and nils said, that's a great idea to them decide. Maybe we should do a war game you know and the military does them all the time on issues like g you know if we had to fight to conflicts that once would we be able to or what would happen if Iran did such and such? Would we be able to respond effectively? They thought maybe we should just do that round the possibility of a disrupted election. So they made a bunch of calls to a bunch of people who have been in those kind of rooms people who had experience that was similar you know. So John Podesta who obviously has worked on multiple Democratic presidential campaigns and Michael. Steele On the GOP side former chair of the RMC, they got generals, lobbyists, tankers, people in the media sixty seven people in all, gather them all together and divided among team. So we had a biden campaign team, a trump campaign team. We had a GOP elected officials team, the democratic elected officials team immediate team, a team of career public servants. And the idea very simply was that they would present all of these teams a scenario. And then they'd watch the teams respond house this I dispatched near pods, which I actually find to be better it's going and when I hit the mic, it's going off the charts. Amazing. We got. So into this game that we ended up talking to about twenty different. my name is Matthew Sanderson Republican. Election. Attorney. Howard. Penske I'm managing director of S Three Group Communications and government relations firm. I've spent decades in Republican politics and now these meetings all went down last summer June twenty, twenty pandemic in full swing sell the war games. You know we were all on the screen together we're on zoom we had a live zoom chat going that's Raj goyal former state representative of Kansas. It was Hi. Are you sort? Of Stuff, Robert Rubin former assistant attorney general. Then there's the gossip who had a baby. Anyhow there was some friendly chit-chat some people coming off and on video including myself when I had to go to my kids or something like that people started off kind of cheery kind of thinking of this kind of fun. You know this is a game it's a game, and then of course they got bored because we gave him half an hour of game. Instruction. Five minutes this is very complicated. A green shoe and then everybody's GonNa turn around twice breakout role. There was a lot of weight what. You definitely need to stay alert and stay on your toes or else you would have missed something but the essential rule sort of the gist of it was pretty simple. You know your job is to pursue what you perceive as your your interests and we're not going to define them for you. That's that's your job. Each player was supposed to act the way that they thought the people who were on the team of you can't do. Things like say you know there was just a nuclear attack from China or something, but you can spread rumors you can make allegations you can just make sure things didn't ever get to implausible after every move Rosa actually had a team of people. She called the white cell which were lawyers experts. People could look at each moving evaluate whether it was realistic and could happen and to some extent that's a probabilistic. We literally had a ten sided die. That, we rolled Oh my God de indie flashbacks. Okay. Anyhow. Everybody was in the room and Chitchat was over and everybody knew the rules. Roseanne. Her team would layout scenario. You know it's it's two in the morning on election night or whatever, and here's what we know so far. go and then the teams took turns you gave the trump team I turn, and then the Biden team did a turn. Then we went to the elected officials and and so on. Down the line in each round meanwhile with each move, the media teams are covering what's happening. Fox News says such and such. The New York Times editorial board denounces this social media rumors spread on twitter that such such as happening. And what happened is that in each of the Games things got worse than we expected faster than we expected and the mood kind of shifted to a little bit shocked and all of the Games we kind of called them early. Okay. Let's just let's stop now and let's talk about what just happened and let's in the end. Rosa and her diverse group of powerful people ran four different games. One ambiguous result game to clear Biden victory each one exploring different outcome game three clear trump win game four, a narrow Biden win, and then she and her team wrote a report detailing trump campaign team asked the department of Justice do what happened in each of those games the Biden campaign quickly dispelled this information but facebook post about the heart attack These are not predictions at all the purpose of this was let's do some more rigorous about the what ifs and honestly when we talked to the people who played in these games. It was immediately clear that this wasn't actually about trump at all. I mean, obviously, the fact that he political norms in dozen says whatever he once kicked the whole thing off. But right away, it was clear that what was being revealed here was something about the deep nature of our laws and our institutions. In really us. So a lot of a lot of these games sort of start in one place and then start to poke at all the same things. Now, we're not gonNA play all four scenarios in full, but there were things that popped up in several of the scenarios that are definitely worth highlighting. We're GONNA focus mostly on the first one game one ambiguous results. The ambiguous result scenario there. What you had is what many people predict will happen. The first game investigated a scenario in which the outcome of the election remained unclear from election night and throughout gameplay. The election outcome turned on results of three states North Carolina Michigan and Florida three swing states. Oh and one thing I think it's important to say before we launch in everyone we talked to told us that when it comes to the actual election that's about to happen I it certainly unlikely to be overrun election night we're GONNA need to adjust our expectations about time people regularly refer to this as election day, but you have many many many ballots that aren't even counted Howard Opensky in Matthew Sanderson. I. Think you should start thinking about this election quarter I would anticipate that this process will take about three months to fully play out. Deep breaths depress. Okay scenario one ambiguous result the scenario where it is not clear for awhile who is one? As we mentioned, the game consists of each of the different teams taking a series of turn sern one November third to November tenth the trump campaign began the game by calling on. Biden to concede based on the election night in person voting returns in this scenario early results of. Voting skewed toward president trump and the GOP which again many people predict will be the case and he's like let's call it where I've one where we should move on. Now the trump campaign also used the bully pulpit of the presidency and its influence with right wing media to lock in the election night returns. So we can imagine nine pm election-night an anchor might declare Donald Trump will be president of the United States. Trump officials called into question mail in ballots or the legitimacy of post election day vote counts, and enlist the support of Republican. Officials in several states. To immediately halt further vote counting. So trump declared victory tries to get the vote count stopped the Biden campaign says Whoa, Whoa, Whoa the Biden campaign called for every vote to be counted. What about the millions of mail in ballots mail and sources have to be counted by hand and depending on when people mail those in they come in at different times most people don't remember that in two thousand and eight it took. Missouri a long time to declare whether John McCain one or Brock Obama one that's election law professor Edward Foley he says it took two weeks and Those later votes. Tend to shift blue. That's the working assumption of election and polling experts. It's been a trend for the last two decades. The Blue Shift we don't ask why is it that that happens? I. Mean Why wouldn't later vote shift red rather than blue The reasoning for that is kind of sketchy. There isn't like clear political science around why that happens. One of the reasons is like the main reason use a a provisionary ballot is if you've changed addresses and last year and a lot more Democrats I guess move around not homeowners Oh. So it's socioeconomic more Democrats are renters they move around don't have a consistent polling places the mainland. Yeah that's the thinking all that's interesting. I did not know that. Okay. So back in the scenario officially results ambiguous but trump declares victory and Biden anticipating a blue shift says keep counting eventually he declares that he will win gop elected officials publicly supported trump's victory and claims of voter fraud. Democratic elected officials were proactive in the states where they held offices to ensure votes would be counted and to build bipartisan coalitions to oversee and protect the count attorney general bar instructed the DOJ to support litigation that would prevent further counting of mail in ballots. Okay. So far if you ask me no huge surprises. Yet. But this was actually just the first turn from each team turned to in three. The trump campaign team attempted to federalize the National Guard to end further vote counting and called on supporters to turn out in large numbers. The Biden campaign established a bipartisan transition team and mobilized supporters to ensure vote counting was completed thoroughly. So at this point in the game played both campaigns call for supporters to get out in the streets protest protest protest again, not a huge surprise. But Then something very weird ghost down there was a moment where I almost needed to take a break from the game for a minute. Because it was so unsettling this is Alan Davidson senior adviser at Mozilla. In the middle of that chaos, there was a moment of clarity that we could all see a pass for how the trump team could actually sway the election empire favor. He's talking specifically about this move turned three officials from both parties sought to block or overturn results in key states including seeking to use friendly state legislatures and governors to send alternate or additional sets of electors. This is the first baller move Robert Raven. Again, I mean this is where we're in uncharted territory and Raj Goyal we do act as if somehow this is incredibly unprecedented, these political these political powerplays. Happen. Okay. So the baller moving question trying to get a state to send an alternate set of lectures initially, it was a little bit hard for us to wrap our brains around. But let me take stages the first thing to really stare at. Is. The Electoral College. Like the easy to gloss over fact. Is that we don't vote directly for President WE WANNA voter in say Nevada pulled over for Joe Biden they're really just voting to send a small group of people. Nevada electors to the electoral college and it's those people who vote for Joe Biden well. The way that the electoral college works is that actual human beings vote and the Electoral College. So a human being actually is an elector and votes the vote of that state's electoral vote but they're human beings and so they have. Their own mind. So what they can do is they cannot abide by the vote of their state really, and they can actually Dan in the sense, become a faithless elector and do what they want despite the fact that they are bound. By the results of that state. Just look at Twenty Sixteen trumpy Clinton you know what happened is that actually it looks like in Hawaii there was a faithless elector in two faithless electors in Texas and then four in Washington state. These are seven people who just freelanced. Basically, they were just like I'm going to go my own way. So I'm just looking at it right here. The Hawaii faithless elector voted for Bernie in Texas. they voted for one voter for Casick, one voter for Ron Paul. So those would probably be never trumpers. Obviously, the Hawaii elector must have been an anti hillary person and was Bernie and then in Washington state three of these electors voted for Colin Powell and then a fourth voted for. A native American candidate face spotted Eagle. It gets a little bit nuance. Now in one of the war game scenarios, the idea of trying to influence one of the electors to make them faithless. It did come up but it wasn't allowed and the Supreme Court has just literally a few months ago ruled that lectures can't do that. But then both campaigns tried a different tact to influence the electors that turns out his way more powerful and very much allowed. See these electors are not actually accountable to the voters they're technically appointed by each state. The only reason we have the system we have now is the back in the day each state somewhere along the way decided. That electors should be connected to the popular vote, but that's a decision each state made. And decision they can unmake at any time. So. WHAT HAPPENED GAME SCENARIO ONE? Is this. There was chaos as we mentioned competing news reports competing claims of victory the trump campaign then used that chaos to go directly to the state legislators say hey. Given. All this chaos all this uncertainty. We think that you should distrust the popular vote. The popular vote failed that it was just untrustworthy because of this blue shift and it just who knows and we just can't trust. It could be fraud could be rigged it could be not. We just can't trust that's Edward fully again, he was actually on roses team experts that decided what was plausible or possible or not, and he says, if the trump campaign could make the argument that the popular vote can't be trusted well, then they can urge the state legislatures to throw out the electors. And appoint their own. Why is it that state? Are Allowed to send alternate or additional slates of electors so it goes back to this old provision in the constitution. Supreme Law of the land that has never been changed. We says state legislatures can determine the manner of appointing electors. So they get to decide whether we have these popular votes or the legislatures appoint electors directly or some other method what Can Happen is the state legislature could say we can't trust the popular vote anymore because who knows who really want? So we're just GONNA appoint electors ourselves. This was something that the Florida legislature considered back in two thousand and decided not to do it once Vice President Gore conceded defeat, but it is a plausible move under article two of the Constitution. Now in the war game scenario we've been following as we mentioned both teams tried to do this convince state legislatures to totally swap out electors. But when ED and the rest of Rosas White Cell team slapped a probability of success under these moves and then had the teams, roll the dice after dice rolls, most of these efforts failed. But that's not to say that things got any less weird. Because at this point in the game, as the teams are pressuring elected officials and giving competing press conferences. It was clear that Michigan was going to be the deciding state. They're a rogue individual destroyed a large number of ballots believed to have supported Biden leaving trump a narrow electoral win. Now, what was that was that part of the scenario that you guys set up or was that one of the moves that one of the teams made the trump team I guess that was actually something that the player teams generated I believe in the scenario itself, it was a national guard guard major decided to destroy a truckload of mail in ballots. And the trump team. If I recall correctly left a little bit deliberately ambiguous. Hey, it's rogue national guard major he you know acted on his own initiative wink wink. It's funny. This is one of those moments in the game where I thought that's not going to happen. We could that happen think about the think about the June protests in Washington and So, one of the things that happened in DC was that an army helicopter US army markings flew very very low over city streets dispersing crowds. There was later a Pentagon inquiry into who the hell was that she says in the end, there's no way to know whether this was a coordinated action or just one guy having a bad idea. So she says it's very plausible that a single human could have. That kind of influence and because in this scenario, this destruction of balance happening in Michigan. You now had a democratic governor step in. And say, Hey, this is not okay. The Governor of Michigan used abnormality as justification to send a separate pro biden set of electoral DC. So in the end, what you have is the deciding swing state Michigan offering up to separate results. The republican state legislature sends a slate of electors that says. The Governor of Michigan sends a slate of electors that says Biden wins. That's how you would get these two competing submissions going to Congress. At fully says not only is this allowed under state law. It's actually happened before the scenario imagining looks like exactly what happened back in the disputed election eighteen, seventy six where you simultaneously had teams of electors claiming to be the lawful electors both meeting on the on the same date. So back then it was the haze electors meeting in one room and the tilden electors meeting in a different room. The imaginary scenario that we're hypothesizing now is that the Biden electors would meet on December fourteenth and claim the authority of meat from the Secretary of state and they would vote for Biden. Same Day. The trump electors would meet claiming the authority to meet from the state legislature, which is purported to directly appoint them what the hell happened. Then Congress would have to deal with it. The outcome of the scenario hinged on how the elected officials from the two parties address the separate slate of electors for Michigan wait. So this is this process. This refereeing process that Congress now has to do. Is that written down the constitution like this is actually just the count of the electors. What does it say wherever it's written? amendment. Which I have an tab here. Thousand Tabs the Twelfth Amendment to the Constitution. Says that Congress has a joint session. So it's both the House of Representatives and the Senate meeting together. It's kind of like a state of the Union address and the presiding officer is the president of the Senate. The vice president of the United States and then there is an Statute Call Electric Count Act and the statute says you take Congress's joint session. First of all, it says it's January sex so we know the date. We know it's one at one PM. So it's quite choreographed. If you read the relevant provisions of the US code, there are some things that are very specific. including. The speaker of the House sits right next to the president of the Senate. but the president said it gets to sit in the speaker's chair the. detail. But. When it comes to the pivotal question the pivotal question. All we get is a little clause in the twelfth amendment. It says the president of the Senate opens the submissions the come from the states. And then uses the passive voice it says the vote shall be counted. And the votes, Shell Ben be counted. The President Senate shall in the presence of Senate of the Senate and House representatives open so the that's modifying The president of the Senate. So vice president opens the envelopes opens all the certificates. Okay and The votes shall then be counted. By, who it doesn't say it doesn't the Constitution doesn't say. Why the risk there is what if the US Senate wants to? Count, one submission. And the US House of Representatives wants to count the other. That's the real problem. How do you break that tie? GOP officials asserted that as the president of the Senate Vice President Pence could legally choose to accept or reject electors. As he wished the argument has been made historically. The Twelfth Amendment gives the vice president that kind of prerogative even if the vice president is a candidate in the election that we're talking about I mean. The electoral count. act. That was adopted in eighteen eighty, seven I think is correct to say was diverted on the premise that it should not be the vice president who gets to make a decisive determination of which votes get counted that this should be a congressional process, but that could be contested potentially in a real antagonistic fight. There's this ambiguity. There's this huge hole where like. Something something that a I've I've never thought about I. Don't think a lot of people have thought about could actually happen and what's so crazy about this is like as of press time I don't know today are binging editor Sorin had sent us this magazine article. From the Atlantic that says according to sources in the Republican Party at the state and national levels the trump campaign is discussing contingency plans to bypass election results and appoint loyal electors in battleground states where Republicans hold the legislative. Majority. So, they're actually thinking about this. Hi. This just tearing from Hamilton Ontario Radio. Lab is supported in part by the Alfred P Sloan. Foundation and hence from public understanding of science technology in the modern world more information about Sloan at triple w. fell away N. Dot Org. Science reporting on radio lab is supported in part by science sandbox a Simon's foundation initiative dedicated to engaging everyone with the process of science. 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Michigan offers up two different sets of electors because of all of these kinds of shenanigans, they sent two sets of electrodes to Congress one set for Biden when set for trump. Congress meets they cannot resolve the dispute and we have what they call a constitutional crisis. There was no clear resolution of the conflict in the January six joint session of Congress neither campaign was willing to accept the result and called on their supporters to turn out in the streets display the result. President trump also invoked the insurrection act. What's The instruction act? So the insurrection act allows the. Active duty. US military to be used domestically. You know to put down an insurrection maintain order protect federal property at this point in the scenario when president trump summons the military he is still de commander-in-chief after all. We arrive back at the question that got Rosa started with all of this when she was sitting at that bad chicken dinner I I mean it's a really tricky issue and I think view if you have the Republicans saying pence decides and trump wins and the Democrats saying, no, the evidence is that Biden, won fair and square What does the military do? Hello you're there is that question lead us to call a guy named Larry Wilkerson. Address you I know you're. Can. Call me professor Colonel Larry. He's a retired army colonel thirty one years a soldier in the United States army roughly two thousand and two, two, thousand and five hours chief of staff of the US Arbor state in these days he teaches at the College of William and Mary Yeah Okay. So I'm wondering if I could take you through anyway, we asked him about this moment where the president commander in chief to activate the military in the middle of still uncertain election. How does what? What happens? Then I let me say that I don't think the military is going to get substantially involved in the election or the aftermath of the election. But let me hastily add we have put troops or federalized the National Gar- and put them in the streets many times in the past I was in Detroit one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, eight will loaded fifty caliber machine gun on ABC with a national. Guard platoon sitting there trying to keep people from shooting American citizens in the streets of Detroit we have done this before we kill people in. Oklahoma over as I recall over two hundred people in the insurrection there this is nine hundred twenty, one Tulsa massacre. We almost kill quite a few veterans in the bonus March when MacArthur took the military to Anacostia flats and was all four machine gunning them nineteen thirty two. So this is not a country that hasn't done this before let's get that straight, but we don't want to do it. But we very well could one of the insights gained from. The simulations was. There is a fairly logical path. To real conflict, and in the scenario, we've been following game one. The military did in fact, deploy in major cities ready to step in on protests as needed, and in fact, in many of the scenarios they played things did end with the military stepping in in one scenario, according to Rosa Joint Chiefs of Staff uses the most serious military officials government as sort of let it be known unofficially through leaks that they had decided that Biden was the legitimate winner and that they were going to he was guy was getting the nuclear codes and so on. And that was the thing that proved decisive and so in that Game Biden was eventually inaugurated. But in our game game one, the partisans on both sides were still claiming victory leading to the problem of to claims to commander in chief power including access to the nuclear codes at noon on January twentieth, and it was left totally unclear what the military would do the possibility that at noon on the twentieth. Hennigan, the Joint Chiefs of staff have to hand the nuclear codes to somebody Robert Rubin. Again, who holds the nuclear codes they can come in and take them. From trump in hand behind, they can do nothing which means trump them but it was sobering boring as a sort of a non war. Peaceful American citizens to realize it's the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the military. Who will decide the president is what institutions are left to try and carry out a transition of power. Howard Opensky. You can see democracy. Hanging in the balance here that was both amazing and also as a strategists. Oh. Well I worked the military. Those are the refs. And got to work the refs. I think we collectively put a little too much faith in in the law and in institutions as if they exist outside of politics power. But they don't. In the end, what you're left with is a simple realization especially when you get into some of the wonkery about a slate of electors and the vote shall be counted that you realize that democracy. Is often just a series of habits. Yeah. A lot of these things are like it's a norm that the popular vote reflects who ends up in the electoral college but it's not written down that it's required for legislatures. It's also interesting that like. The thing that makes enormous enormous the exercising of power like how do you get a norm? Well, that's okay. You know what I mean yeah. Like George Washington set the norm that you a are in power for two terms as president and from then on nobody ran for a third term, it wasn't written down anywhere in fact, people wanted him to stay on the George don't go but he said, no I've got a dethrone and then that decision which in many ways is the bedrock of our democracy. It wasn't really written down anywhere or enshrined in law at least not for a long time. It was just a choice that he made the next guy made, and then the next guy made. So it was it's magnificent. How much I mean it's a little bit worrying now but like it's kind of wild, how much we are like just dictated by these things that normally happen. But might not. So. Thank you Bethel this story was reported by Bethel Hobday with help from Tracy hunting was produced by Bethel. We had original music from Jeremy Bloom and I should. 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Episode 299: No Relief for the Weary

The Editors

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Episode 299: No Relief for the Weary

"Liz cheney survives mt. jeez committee assignments. Don't and the debate over the covid. Relief bill will discuss all this more on this edition of the editors Joined as always by the right honorable. Charles st w cook Michael brandon dorothy. Jim garrity will return. Soon you're listening to a national. You podcast if you listen to this podcast on national view dot com clean directly on the corner. We're delighted to have you but it'd be easier for you and better for us if you made us part of your feet at any of the streaming services out there from spotify to itunes like what you hear here. Please consider giving a glowing five star review on itunes. If you don't like what you hear here please forget. I said anything so. Mb we had liz cheney leadership debate. Come to a head the other night. There is a lot of reporting that they're going to be more than half. The conference would vote to dumper. Matt gaetz was very confident about this and it turned out not to be a total fizzle was an tense meeting with the a lot of back and forth both ways but she ended up winning comfortably won forty something to to sixty one. I believe it was. What do you make of it. Well you know it's interesting because i think there's been some reporting. I don't know if you've picked up on this or you can verify this rich but there's been some reporting that trump was lobbying behind the scenes on this vote Little bit or at least maybe in touch with matt gaetz about it You know it was a little bit of a test of how trump a fide the gop is versus how much there's going to be a snapback after trump and at least in secret ballots A majority of the republican house caucus is willing to support Liz cheney Even though she voted for impeachment says this is not a you know. it's it's kind of been established. Now this is not a fatal thing at least among the conference. I don't know among voters that may be another test. Cheney faces in the future. But you know i think i think listeners know that you know. We all thought that what trump did was impeachable I thought you know the reported remarks cheney made in that meeting i ain't sorry You know make perfect sense to me. And i think all of us She didn't deserve to be a pulled out over this I think matt gaetz. This is real egg on his face. Right i mean there's there's a way in which the republican party suffers for lack of connection with voters i think a lot of representatives acting fear. Right they don't know in the sense they don't know how deep the crazy goes in the party and so i think they're more they act more fearful of it then they should So this anyway. This was just an interesting test You know. I know some of my own compatriots. Who are a little bit more skeptical of of the republican party as it was before trump. And maybe you know the name. Cheney makes their the revolvers unlatch At their sides You know this was not a referendum. On liz cheney's foreign policy this was a referendum on whether trump is going to have this fearful influence over elected republicans going forward. And you know it's a sign that his influence may be waning. Wait to see. Because he's been eerily silent so it does feel like there's a a storm cloud off in the distance. But you know i thought i'm glad she won the vote. I i'd be afraid if if matt gaetz had that kind of power in the republican caucus. I think that'd be a little bit scary. yes. I have no independent knowledge whether trump was working him himself. I just saw the same reports. But surely i think you can look look at this two ways on the one hand liz. Cheney totally on unapologetic did not back down at all. That's all the good on the other hand. This is kind of a defensive maneuver. It's it's just a avoiding getting punished. So it's it's good to win. That battle was not an affirmative victory and then also on the one hand this shows that most of the republican conference realizes that it shouldn't conduct their business according to the dictates of one guy back in mar-a-lago on the other hand it shows that they're willing to act on the sentiment in private in a secret ballot but we haven't seen as much evidence of of people being willing to put their their next on the line for a based on the sentiment publicly while it was defensive but it was also a landslide. Amuses me to no end. How many of the tweets. I saw in the immediate aftermath undermined. How lopsided vote was one of them said that she'd managed to cling on and if If a party had for example a hundred and sixty five to fifty majority and a state legislator you wouldn't say look. They've clung on once again. You would say they're absolutely dominant. And at least on this narrow question liz. Cheney won overwhelmingly. I wonder to what extent matt gaetz knew what was going to happen. Tort extent he was trying to create his own reality. He said it beforehand. We have the votes. He didn't have anything close to the votes trying to generate momentum. Was he trying to chivvy long. People who voting in secret to make them believe that there was a groundswell hair or did he believe it had he been in contact with president trump. had he been told by many who subsequently voted the other way that sure they were on his side because house he ever going tonight either way go sawyer phenomenon. In the in these internal type fights it always happens in leadership. Races were candidates are just totally shocked. Because you get the assurance of what you think is the insurance. And i think that's the key thing you kinda hear what you wanna hear when you're talking to people about these races that are golf secret votes and then you're just totally shocked when it's not there but i'm i'm guessing that it was more. The former that that he was trying to talk this into coming to fruition talk into happening. Because the cheney people are almost when those those first stories came out the other the petitions over fifty percent of the conference already signed it and there are no. There's no way there's no way and they also like really confident going into this vote. Yeah honest turns out. They should have been so yes. It was a defensive wrote. No it's not the same thing as failing in a primary or being affirmatively chosen. I dare say liz. Cheney would not be chosen for that position by the party right now but history moves slowly and we are only wat- two weeks after the inauguration and this was a sign that said amazing. It's only two weeks but this was a sign. This is a little sign along the way. And if in a year and a half things look different We will look back at this moment and say yeah bit by bit. Trump's vice grip over. The party has been relinquished. And that was the start of it so mvp. I do think this is an important milestone. Just carving out some non trump's base in the party which is no small thing. At at the moment. I do think overtime. Trump's influence will diminish and inevitably events are going to happen in new issues are to arise new players. I'm going to arise. I think all that's true but the one thing that has made a concerned though is that so we're in this period since trump left where is basically done. Nothing right. maybe he made some calls about this. I can't imagine this very concerted. But he's not on. Twitter is someone who's reporting the other day. He's he's been reduced to kind of drafting and suggesting tweets for other people to to tweet. He hasn't done any interviews and still his grip is as strong. So what does it look like when he's back on hannity every night which apparently you know he will will be a couple of weeks and there's a story today in the daily mail about trump plans a revenge tour in going and holding rallies against the various people who've crossed on impeachment so it might be that his his influence and footprint is gonna wax In the near term rather than waiting any further it might. I mean listen. Revenge tour is actually a risky. It's it's a. it's an interesting proposition. So a revenge tour would be about republicans who betrayed him but these are republicans who are still largely in the fight against the current administration that may satisfy a portion of his followers. But i i do think that's a trickier thing right. And i do think it'll be tricky to for figures like hannity who kind of can provide an audience for trump like that. If trump is determined to poison hannity's own ability to interview perhaps the next presidential nominee of the republican party right. I mean there's the concerns become a little bit. The the chess moves become a little bit more difficult. Maybe we'll finally get three dimensional chess or or something now but yeah i think we do have to prepare for the idea that trump try to reenter the political sphere again It seems highly likely. It's just it's just impossible to gauge his footprint in it and you know he also may get interested in some other scheme of making money or or taking his fame in a different direction. So it's also i would. It's worth pointing out had to that the potential consequences of his re entry into the scene. Maybe unpredictable but they won't be random the the members of the house of representatives who voted in favor of his impeachment and the members of the senate who seemed likely to vote in favor of his conviction. We're not picked out of a hat. So he runs the revenge tour. Okay liz. cheney is notable because she's from wyoming but the rest of the representatives who said yes to impeachment are not. they're not in that sort of district and likewise in the senate. Do we really think that. Revenge tool aimed at taking out mitt romney in utah or ben sasse in nebraska is going to work. I don't and ben sasse is currently at risk of being censored by his party in nebraska. He put out a video last night. Somewhat defiantly telling them to go stuff themselves and one of the things he pointed out was he won a lot. More votes than trump in nebraska. He won omaha. Trump did not so sure trump will continue to have an influence over the party and he may have a warping effect shares up every night on hannity but his ability to inflict pain on those people that he most needs to in order to get his own way has now been severely curtailed. And i'm not sure that those who is still kowtowing to him recognized that michael and thing you're getting at this that eventually might take hold but hasn't taken hold yet somewhat to my surprise is you think just sheer partisanship would cut against some some of the trump vengeance or the trump conspiracy theories. You'd think just like winning georgia would have been like overwhelming concern of the party and trump helped valid up. He would pay the price but he's he's paid no price for losing. The midterms and twenty eighteen was going to happen inevitably but he he made worse by making himself so repellent in the suburbs. Losing you know a winnable race against joe biden and then losing these absolutely. We're gonna talk to the covert relief bill and in a minute but if joe biden gets us one point nine it's going to be because of what trump did and georgia but but it it just. That doesn't seem to enter into the calculations. As much as i thought it would right well and also wait until A democratic senate starts confirming judges with Fifty one votes with kamala harris and they're huge consequences to what happened in georgia and You know the size of the covid relief. Bill is just barely scratching the surface and he's made no price for that right. I mean Mitt romney paid a bigger price for losing twenty twelve than Trump has for twenty twenty. I think it's partly. I think it's partly the corruption of the corruption of political media and the corruption of american politics. Where is so much of. It has been diverted away from the business in the case of journalism of reporting and analyzing what's happening in the world and then for politics of governing I mean people think pretended says all kind of show and that your job is to keep the seals in the audience clapping the whole time and trump has a unique power there. I mean trump change the relation of politics and media to the point where all the cable news stations were in. This ratings bonanza Lots of political media was surfing on high tide from trump. So there is a reluctance to let it go. I mean the big thing that might start clearing that out is if trump is not on the ballot and you see voter participation drop from its inception highs in twenty twenty You know maybe people will look you know. As their the the clicks decline as the ratings decline and they'll accept the return of kind of normal politics as you know. Boring is that is. I mean we have to remember to like trump activated people who didn't vote before and got them to pay attention in some way to the political scene mostly because he was this insane spectacle for five years You know that's that's gonna take a while to wear off exit question to you. How much does this leadership. Vote boost the standing of liz. Cheney in the party from zero to ten zero no big deal is kind of status quo. Ten she's now unstoppable republican juggernaut. Does it boost search tool. I think she has maintained position. And the question now is will the fever broken in time for her to win primary in a year and a half empty boosted her slightly. I mean she has a. She is a danger of primary challengers in the future. But all she has to do is like find her inner cheney and get left angry at a cheney again. That shouldn't be hard number. I need a number What was the scale again. Zero to ten. Not that complicated k. Booster like a six. I thought we were going to get a classic. Nbd moment the way you said. She needed to find a in any drone her opponent. I shall your zero. I take it. I'm zero because i don't think that she's been elevated in any way. I think she survived. And we'll see whether that lost. I say like four. Five booster in in a sense That if she lost this she. I mean she's done. I mean she's not going to lose her leadership slot then go back and win a primary and wyoming really hard to see Showed Showed some gumption showed some some bravery showed some political staying power doesn't guarantee she's going to win her primary and twenty twenty two but i i think it is. It is a boost with that with pause in here from the national review institute and our sister organization in one thousand nine hundred. Five william buckley junior founded national review the iconic magazine you know and love and for sixty five years we of course been in the fight defending conservative principles ideas and policies. Thirty six years after the magazine founded bill. 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Take it back and he released a statement wants to then again condemning her statements. She gave a talk at the same conference meeting. Where the cheney vote and where. She expressed some level of regret about her past statements than house. Democrats said well. You know what you're not dealing with this problem. We're going to deal with it and we're going to vote to strip her of her committee. Assignments that happened yesterday and taylor. Green made a public statement of semi regret although it also it it just seemed as though cunard's just something she she fell into heat wasn't really her fault whether you make it like any of it. I think that mccarthy should have expelled from the party and as far as he's able to do so and strip her committee assignments. This isn't a free speech question. We judge people inside bodies such as congress based on their work. And why she so valuable. She is on the recold within an institution such as the republican party which is a club and she's damaging it she doesn't bring much to it. It's totally within. Its rights to say no. That's not what we stand for. If she stood up and said i think that we should fund planned parenthood and late. Term abortions fabulous. She wouldn't be put on the Science committee so i didn't have any compunction whatsoever about suggesting that she should be alienated as far as possible from the party. I certainly don't think she should be expelled from congress. Because i think that's a separate question once you've held an election in which voters vote. You should in as far as possible respect that. She's she's in. The house is a two year cycle. She's done a supreme court justice but parties can and should maintain themselves and associate with whom they like and they should not wish to associate with her. So i don't like this kicking the can down the road. But i also don't like democrats doing it for two reasons. The first one is that democrats have shown no such willingness to do this with their own crazies. I haven't done it with maxine waters. They haven't done it with alien omar and alien mouse case they have. They've promoted her. The second is structural. It seems to me to be a mistake for the majority party whether that is republican or democrat to interfere with the committee assignments of the minority. I understand that the house is in a sense at least internally a dictatorship i understand that the majority runs the show. I understand that it is different in that regard from the senate. Thanks in part to the rules within the senate. The progressives were was trying to get rid off but essay precedent. I don't think this will end. Well i think that we will now see republicans reaching into the minority when they take back the house and determining which of that minorities members can sit where and although it is legal for that majority to do so. I don't think it's going to improve our politics In any way in fact i think the opposite yeah media. I think this was a key piece of the puzzle. Here is mccarthy was feeling pressured by the democrats said. They're gonna do this anyway no matter what he did so it would have seemed like buckling to them. If if he did it himself. I think it should have done it himself. And i think just Party hygiene says this. This member should not be Have good standing within the republican party. But i i think that created some hesitancy and then the just this president is bad. I'm there's no way when not if when republicans take back house majority which will happen at some point. There are just certain democrats who made incendiary comments who are not gonna get committee assignments. That's that's the road we're down now. Yeah so on the on the president. I totally agree with both of you. This is a bad precedent. This is something parties should do themselves. i know means pelosi was looking for a way to do something about ilhan omar awhile back and was couldn't find the political capital to do it and then appeared on a magazine cover with her You know and it's an argument. Also for the gop proactive. Like i said. I do think that there is this disconnect where the republican party fears. It's voters and feels like they don't quite understand who votes for them or dealing with them. That makes them hesitant about this And you know this is going to be a cleanup job. I i don't think Marjorie taylor green is going to behave. Well going forward. I mean she fund raised off of these events all she fundraise off of her persecution by the establishment this week. So she's going to try to be like this national conspiracy populist figure and you know the republican house leadership should put out a statement saying the truth that in eight in eleven seventy nine afonso. The second of aragon. And i'll answer the eighth of castille took down the jewish satellite. It was part of the kista was ugly. But it's a part of history. There's only the catholic satellite starting fires You know anyway anyway. I agree with charlie. I mean it's in the party should determine who it's who would associates with by the parties are so weak now Partly because they've they've democratized and partly because no-one no-one can reconstitute the the smoke filled rooms and no one can file us. Well it's a funny thing too. Because like listen to the kind of populist immagination is that all this all the big events in the world are decided at georgetown cocktail parties right and they were all looking for access to them And it's just like they're if only there were parties where People could draw some lines sometime in this day and age is hard enough to get a smoke filled room at all. Let along major political decisions in it. So charlie x question to you marjorie taylor. Green will be a member of congress in january. Twenty twenty three. Yes or no no. I think they'll either distract out or she will be primaried out i. I can't see her sticking around in some part because she doesn't really bring anything to the table and so there's not much of a rail politic incentive to keep a deep. It's a coin flip. But i think georgia republicans Kemp and ravensburger and all the others should have a sit down with henry olsen the washington post and and richard emphasized to them that if they don't try to re district her and they can do so with conservative like rock ribbed conservative republicans. Those are the people whose district touch hers. Now if they don't do that then the georgia gop could head the way of arizona's gop into a much worse Civil war and you don't want any of that. I'm say no i think they'll either redistricting her out or maybe i'm too optimistic. I think even though she's getting a boost from this nationally. I just can't believe the end of the day voters in that district. Pumpkin voters given the choice choice. Presumably of good solid conservative would would pick her again in a primary knowing that. She's totally ineffectual. Can't get anything done in washington except for generate pointless. Tim poisonous controversy with that. 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And you'll have a better experience and the opportunity to delve even deeper into the community. You can comment on articles and blog posts. You become part private facebook group if you like and you get invitations to exclusive conversations with various conservative newsmakers and our writers and are so please check it out and our plus so med. We got big cove. Relief bill on the table one point nine trillion and it looks as though They're going to they're going to get the same. at least. It looks fairly optimistic at this juncture. Would he make it. So the bill keeps getting worse and worse in the in the hands of the democratic majority You know what you're finding is. They're putting in a fifteen dollars minimum wage. Which doesn't really have anything to do with code relief. But they're saying it it. It's kind of a stimulus I'm afraid in some regions of the country. It's going to stimulate unemployment Rather than employment they are you know. Putting in of course. Bailouts for states All sorts of goodies. And they're not doing anything that would actually get schools ready to open normally as soon as possible or even by september there instead of getting people back to work increasingly. It looks like the bills structured in a way that is going to pay people not to work until september Is getting kind of ugly and greased up and It would be a better bill if they had not tried to make it a party bill. you know. I think i think democrats calculation is that they can you know Get a big boost by sending out stimulus checks to a lot of people. It seems weirdly. Like joe biden ons to negotiate with republicans more than his own. White house does or Than the senate does so. I think this is not agree. Sign for getting out of the pandemic as soon as possible. And you know it's it's it's worrying to to kind of begin a new administration with this idea that Even before the last covid bill has been spent that were putting another one point. Nine on the tab and that there's basically this idea that like the federal reserve can just turn on the muggy money spigot forever with no consequence So i'm a little worried charlie. Larry larry summers former obama fisher. President of harvard for president of harvard has not been the washington. Post has gotten a lot of attention. That makes an argument. That you've made over the mon- month. He says two things one to michael's point. Let's let's just be careful here. This really could stoke inflation and away. We we haven't seen in a long time. I deferred ramesh on the credibility of of that. Worry but he also says he's coming at it obviously from a progressive perspective. Why are you gonna blow all this money on the On the spending that one it. It doesn't the the economy's going to start is already started. Healing is gonna start to heal further as that pandemic receipts here in the spring. So so why. Are you going to use all this. Political capital on the spending that from a progressive perspective doesn't involve any real structural changes to to the economy. And have nothing left in the cupboard when you wanna do all this other stuff education infrastructure whatever. It is what you make that argument. I like that argument. I've been unusually sanguine for a libertarian. Throughout corona virus. And i have not been routinely suggesting that those imposing rules in response to the pandemic Using the pandemic as a pretext for what they already wanted to do. I've thought that most of the actors here with modeling their way through and i've been unusually sanguine on the economic front as well in that. Some of the ill effects that corona virus has brought us have been the product of the government itself and i think government does have some responsibility to pick up the tab when it itself from costs but my line has now been crossed and i am no longer sanguine. I'm appalled. I'm appalled by this. Bill pulled by the details of it. It's so much two trillion dollars in its current form which for context is how much the entire iraq war cost. The iraq war for years was held up as the example of profligate spending. We put it on. Credit card be forced our children and grandchildren to pay for it. We didn't think about how we would pay for it well. This isn't the first grown virus bill. This is just one of them and it's now going to cost unless it is radically changed as much as iraq warded and it contains all sorts of provisions. That really are not necessary for war. Coronavirus relief contains bailouts for the state's contains a fifteen dollar minimum wage. I'm not for what it's worth. Convinced that passes the byrd rule. It will see and it pays people not to work at a moment. We need them to be working. It also give some money to people who shouldn't be receiving money. It's not well targeted. Now david brooks and the new york times ocoee. The joe biden is should be using this moment to make all sorts of structural changes to fight inequality to stop wages lagging and so on and so forth. Actually joe biden should be doing the opposite. Joe biden not only for the sake of fiscal sanity but for his own presidency should be tapping the brakes here and Recognizing that he may be about to make a big mistake not not just for america but for himself much of the money. In the lost corona virus. Bill has not been distributed yet. There is absolutely no need for this to be rushed through at lightning speed using reconciliation on a party line or close to party line basis. And i suspect that you've all lavigne is correct when he says if biden does that and the indications are that he's going to. This may be all he gets done. This may be the end of the bipartisan moment. Such as it is what joe biden should be doing is building the case for what he conceives to be. The best corona virus relief package and slowing down trying to bring the costs under control and then working out what else he wants to achieve in the next few months so i i am now the point of no. I've been okay with a lot of the measures that have been taken. This was unprecedented. We were flying blind. 'cause we did not want to allow a collapse but as a as a fiscal hawk. I'm now looking around me. And i'm seeing people making choices than not. They're not forced into this. They're rushing this that they're saying. Hey we have an opportunity to spend money. This might be a good moment to fix this or that. Maybe we can roll in Other provisions and i am deeply concerned about the financial situation which the trump administration and the republicans in congress made a lot worse it must be said and deeply concerned therefore about this bill and the question do what will be the final top line number four. The covid relief bill after it passes congress and signed into law beasts specific two point two trillion. Whoa two point two. Charlie cook last. I think it might swing down a little bit. It won't be dramatic but perhaps one point six trillion. Say one point nine and with that special bonus exit question first to you charlie cook chiefs or buccaneers while much of me that thinks the buccaneers at this year's fairytale team and is being held in tampere and tom brady came out of the patriots and has done it again. But i'm just not sure having watched the chiefs for two years that you can beat them. So i'm going to go with the chiefs chiefs. Yeah make you. Which probably means we're wrong. I'm never been a big brady fan. We discussed this couple of podcasts ago. But he's got a chance for a seventh solar that'd be a third of a season winning a super bowl when when you got a chance to kind of rack up another history making championship like that. I'm going to root for brady. But i i kind of see it coming down to just a final drive with the ball and mahomes hands and he's going to get it done but overall i'm just just hoping for a good game and that it's it's in one of these guys hands with the game on the line with under two minutes to go but we'll see with that. Let's hit a few other things before we get out of here. Nbd had a recent airbnb experience here. So we're we're having worked on the house and it was spray foam insulation which you can't be in the house for so we had to find an airbnb that would accommodate three children and a dog along with two parents and airbnb. Turn this up for us and hilariously. It was A house owned by a very high big shot at one of the hedge funds that got absolutely hammered last week by the stupid game. Stop story so that was pretty funny. Sorry stupid you loving it. I don yes i mean i benny hinn i mean i love some stupid stuff. Charlie and charlie been admiring the the work. The guys have been doing on your gutters. Yes oh as you can imagine. I was absolutely delighted to learn that we needed to have all of the gutters in the house and many of the sophists two replaced all at the same time. That's how i love spending money but the main work has been done just outside of my office and i've watched some of it through the window while daydreaming. I suppose and. I think it's just worth repeating. You've been complaining that you couldn't couldn't get going on your magazine article for the last issue and it was just because you're watching the gutters now. They arrived off finish. Stop magazine piece. But i i've written in other magazine pieces. I'm very hard working employees about the a the value of and necessity of watching an admiring people who do work that we think about. We've all been in the position where Where busy working writing the national review and somebody comes to deal with the plumbing. Fix the air conditioner and we just say oh it's out back and then go back to the office and take a phone call or what you will you actually stop and watch these people work. They are impressive and valuable and watching these two guys to the the the work they were doing under the roof line was one of those moments. I doubt either speaks a word of english But the the quality off the work and the cat and the precision was a real thing of beauty. And i suspect that there's a culture we don't spend enough time appreciating. Yes reminds me of two things. charlie wanna mention. I think i mentioned to you before. Couple years ago i had to deal with this terrible plumbing situation in my my parents house basement got flooded semi ruin had to get a plumber in nice kid i. He's like paul twenty five twenty seven years old at one point. Were down there. And he's just an just stood. There is stood staring at the wall and finds like what are you doing. He's like i'm thinking because he had to figure out you know where are these various piper going was the best place to them as a real intellectual challenge on on top of everything else now. It's not manipulating symbols. The way we do for a living but but it requires real talent and also just craftmanship is such a such a wonderful thing to to admire my. My dad had a little interest in a brick lang. You did a little bit Himself on the back walk of of their house and The the neighbors cross the street. Once when i was younger they they had a major renovation of their walk doing a going on and my dad would like come downstairs binoculars and just watch these guys do do their thing. The craftmanship so so amazing. So sticking craftsmanship I've been building snowmen. So i got to snowmen undermine my belt this season the first big snow in the northeast to dry really for for good snowman material but i managed by using part of a snow snowbank created by a plow. This latest blizzard northeaster was was better because At at the end of it was a little wintry knicks. As i say so snows was wetter. But it's still. It's really hard to do the the classic snowman you think of where you you roll one snowball and make it really really really really big. And that's the bottom of your snowman and then you get the intermediate snowball in a little smaller. And then you get your head. Had this really hard to do. So i find you got you gotta use a shovel in kind of kind of build up a mound to begin with so it. It leads to kind of slumpy looking snowman but at least a recognizable snowman with that. It's time for editor's picks. Nba to pick. My pick is just a little piece by david. Harsanyi about the great american gun buying binge which is something. I've been following and just amazed at the incredible expansion of gun ownership in america over the last year and then some estimates are for five million New gun owners Were were. I dunno chris last year. I don't know what what the terminology would be And it's just continuing with a advent of a democratic administration such so that like i mean there's literal shortages of bullets and guns on store shelves in america. This is pretty astonishing away becoming well. It's a it's just a pretty. I mean i don't wanna say there's a gun shortage in america because there there really isn't But this is going to have long-term political consequences. I mean there's been studies done on. What how gun ownership shapes the politics of a gun owner and So this is this is anyway. It's trying to follow and be interested in chuck. What's your pick. My pick is the aforementioned piece by yuval. Even on the strange way that the democrats rushing this coronavirus relief bill and the potential consequences that they might suffer if they rush it and loaded up in the nachum. Semi is another piece like earlier this week from the forthcoming print issue of which is now available. If you're an are plus subscriber it's posted vailable for your enjoyment and enlightenment but this is a piece immediately following. Charlie's bhai dan mclaughlin and dan has real interest in nineteenth century history and has written a piece about how even with all the current turmoil and discontent. The republican party is still recognizably. The republican party. It's always represented going back to lincoln. This fusion of classical liberal principles and a more populist elemental conservatism with different the trump errors is trump represents the ascendancy of that more elemental wing of the party. When usually it's been a subordinate role but this is a fantastically eliminating piece. Night urged everyone to check it out so k. That's it for us. You've been listening to a national review. Podcast in your rebroadcast. Re transmission or account is game without the express written permission of nationally. Magazine is strictly prohibited. This podcast has been produce buddy and comparable sarah should. He makes us sound better than we deserved. Thank you charlie. Thank u m b next specially to all of you for listening we are the editors and enjoy the big game but talk.

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"I i've reached that point in dad mode where i've got my fifteen year. Old is is really just a naturally gifted artist. And i don't say that lightly i mean she is good And my son is he wants to play soccer so he's playing soccer and i want him to do something outside he needs to move rallies in front of a screen so much and he liked soccer. He played soccer. Can we just a. it's not just me. I know but i feel occasionally guilty. Were thinking he's got a rain so we have to go to the game. I mean he loves to play. I like to watch him play. He appreciates me being there. But you know. I like. I've got friends who travel ball for their kids. And everybody's convinced their kids going to get some sort of athletic scholarship and they're not and travel bald. It just gets and everyone. I know who does travel with their kids. The parents just seem privately miserable. And i i work enough that i don't like to give up my weekend anyway. Introduce something like travel and then the ungodly nature of it to do it on a sunday. Hey kids let's teach you that. There's something more reported than god on sunday i. I'm glad my kid is playing. I really am and now you know. I'm done by three. This is this is now With my work schedule doing two shows ninety due to the noon to three. And i'm done after three o'clock and i still find myself wanting to stick around the office because i'm convinced i need to do something because i i can't remember in my entire working life. I've never been done at the office before six for the longest time before seven. And now i'm done by three in. What am i going to do and now the kid is like dad you could. You could go get a golf membership and we go hit golf balls together. And i'm thinking that's not a bad idea. Once he's done with soccer prickly this summer Go get a golf cart. He learned to drive a golf cart while i he can drive. Be my designated driver. So i can deidre could hit golf balls and i think we will probably be well balanced and doing that. But you kids grow up and you gotta find you wasted to entertain them and be active with them all right. Let's move on enough about that. The phone number again. Eight seven seven nine seven irrigate seven seven nine seven three seven. Four to five man The andrew cuomo scandals have gotten so egregious the media more and more can't ignore them now. The new york post is a longtime critic of andrew. cuomo also they. They've got enough stuff there to cover him in. It's amazing how most of the new york media even covering the nursing home scandal. And the reason they're not this is very important. I think for everyone to understand. The new york media is covering andrew cuomo sexual harassment scandal in ways. They're not covering the nursing home scandal in large part of mea culpa. They were complicit in the nursing homes handle. They knew it was going on the entire time. They were attacking onto scientists Even the raw dec- was making the right decisions to protect the elderly and andrew cuomo. Didn't they were ignoring andrew cuomo. Cnn had him on cnn every night With his brother a verbal incest with his brother on cnn and so the media now has to cover the scandal of the sex scandal as a mea culpa. They can't admit that they didn't cover and still won't cover the you don't gamble but they gotta do something so they're giving coverage to his sexual harassment as a way to make up for not covering him killing a bunch of senior citizens or to make up for him killing a bunch of senior citizens now. The new york post is one of the few newspapers in new york that has called him out the whole time. And they're the only one running the story governor andrew cuomo's cover up of nursing home. Cova deaths was even worse than we thought it turns out. His department of health started collecting the key data a full year ago even as it kept the information secret in defiance of lawmakers rights as well as freedom of information law department of health memo obtained by the new york post shows the department began ordering care homes to report both in home and in hospital deaths of revenue residents last april yet for nine months team. Cuomo refused to share it with health. Commissioner howard zucker insulting legislators with bogus claims. The info wasn't accurate enough to release and other staffers. Falsely claiming they couldn't compile the information to comply with freedom of information law requests from the empire center in january attorney general tisch james finally called out the clear signs that total deaths were half again. What team cuomo was pretending and only then to the department of health released the tally. The conspiracy was all about hiding the evidence of a deadly scandal department of health. Commissioner suckers march twenty fifth twenty twenty order forced homes to admit cova contagious patients without even testing them that clearly lead to needless deaths. Meanwhile the governor's top people conspire to bully health professionals into pulling the truth from last. July's department of health report. That falsely claimed to prove the order was harmless. The media the national particularly see as culpable in this. But so too is the new york times. Cnn was praising andrew cuomo as a way to beat up donald trump. they needed andrew cuomo. He was useful to them at the time. He's no longer useful. They cannot go back to admit that they were willing idiots in covering for cuomo so now they've got to go after him for sexual harassment as a way to make it up. Here's the headline in the new york times. Another newspaper that covered for apologize for a defendant andrew cuomo for his handling of killing old people headline cuomo aide says governor groomed her for months before groping subtitle. A woman who has accused governor andrew cuomo of groping her in the executive mansion said. She warned him. You're going to get us in trouble. A woman who has accused governor andrew cuomo groping her. The executive mansion gave a fuller account in a published report on wednesday detailing. How she believed the governor had groomed her for months with a series of tight hugs in sexually suggestive comments. She said in an interview with the times union albany new york that mr cuomo asked invasive questions about her personal life recalling that at one point last year the governor told her quote. Oh if you're single. The things that i would do to you in quote. The groping incident followed later in two thousand hundred and said the woman and administrative assistant. Who still works at the capitol and who spoke on the condition of anonymity in late november. She said the governor summoned her to a second floor office at the executive. The woman told the times union that mr cuomo closed the door and reached under her blouse he pulled me close and all i remember is seen his hand. His big in the woman said in the interview moments later. The governor grasped one of her breasts over her bra leaving her so confused and so taken aback. She said she told the times union. She told the governor. You're going to get us in trouble because she didn't know what else to say. It was pretty much. Like what are you doing. She said adding he said. I don't care. Several current and former employees of large sexual harassment allegations against mr cuomo in recent months in other women have come forward accounts of uncomfortable. Interactions with the governor. The alleged groping and the governor's mansion was the most sexually aggressive allegation and it was forwarded to the state attorney general letitia james who is overseeing an inquiry into the sexual harassment claims against the governor in a text exchange with the new york times on wednesday. The woman confirmed the details that she told the times union as well as the fact that she had spoken to. Investigators deputized by ms james. She's one of several accusers. Who have been interviewed by the attorney. General's investigators led by june h kim a acting. Us attorney for the southern district of new york and ann clark regarded employment discrimination lawyer a separate state. Assembly investigation is also underway with a broader mandate which also includes looking. At the governor's handling of the state's nursing homes were more than fifteen thousand people died during the pandemic. Both investigations are scheduled to take months to complete many of the states. Different leaders have now asked mr cuomo to resign with some of those calls followed following the groping allegations. The woman said that after the governor had groped her. She told him he was crazy. A comment she said seemed to hurt his ego. He turned around and walked back to his desk. He didn't say anything. I walked myself out to the front door and nothing was said. It was almost like. I felt like a piece of garbage to him. I felt degraded. Wow notice however that one paragraph from the new york times the state legislature is investigating him for his culpability and fifteen thousand deaths and nursing homes. Fifteen thousand deaths at nursing homes. On the day that andrew cuomo host team or nursing home residents returned to nursing home from hospitals without testing rhonda santa's in florida having reviewed. The data decided that it was best to shut down all nursing homes and bar any cova patient from returning to a nursing home. in fact he required that Cova positive nursing home residents be moved to different facilities until they tested negative and then they could be returned. The media blasted and still blast. Rhonda's santa's for supposed- anti science they are attacking rhonda santa's for not locking the state of florida. They're attacking rubs it. Remember a jacksonville earlier. In the pandemic you saw mass crowds at beaches. But they were using zoom lenses. The media was so it looks like people were merced compact on the beach. There they were they were more spread out. You never know that from the media coverage in the media was talking about the deaths. A- jacksonville beach. They were giving wall-to-wall coverage of of the lawyer and democratic activists who was dressing up as the grim reaper. Who himself is now in legal trouble. They were interviewing him on cnn. As if he was some sort of Truthful activist and things didn't go. The media's way now sixty minutes engages in an ongoing character assassination of the governor florida in his released yet another statement trying to defend its sixty minutes report that even outside media organizations are starting to say was an honest and yet they do their best to not talk about andrew cuomo. They only talk about him now. Win local media in new york offers something so salacious that they ignore it a woman who claims she was groped who says this now the new york post says there wasn't just a hug he went forward and i was kind of like. Oh the doors right there. This is now notice again. The the quotes the new york post chooses to use it as cover to the exact same incident that the new york times chose not to let me read you the new york post coverage of the same thing when she entered a second floor office she said quo came out from behind the desk and aggressively embraced her in what she described as an overt sexual manner. That wasn't just a hug. He went for it. And i was like. Oh the doors right there. The woman said she quietly freaked out what to say. It was pretty much like what are you doing. That's what he slammed the door. He said i don't care. Although the sound of the door was loud enough. That cuomo standpoint likely wondered what was going on. He wasn't deterred he came right over. He pulled me close and all remember. Seen his hand is big. Can i remember looking down. Like holy bleep. Cuomo sixty three reach under. Her blouse grabbed her breasts over her bra. I was so confused. I was taken aback. He never said anything which was odd. That was the first blatant move. She also believed cuomo tried to groomer. It was never in front of anybody. He made sure that was either at the mansion or if it was at the capitol that no one was around a coworker. Alison mcgrath also told the new york times later late last month that the woman confided in her about groping. They can't avoid covering the story but just noticed how quickly they moved on from the nursing. Home scandal notice how quickly they moved on from his helping chris. Cuomo is notice how they moved on notice how they tried to underplay in understate the facts about the nursing homes in all the major media outlets out there because they can never admit they used andrew cuomo as a way to get to donald trump. They used andrew cuomo as a way to barest. They used andrew cuomo to say this guy's carpet when he wasn't and now they're gonna make up for it but even in making up for it they want to minimize some of the details because it makes them look bad because this is who he always was the media new at the whole time and frankly with more we learn about the media. This is through. The media is too so they have a hard time covering it. You making plans. I can tell you one thing you should do is go to omaha steaks dot com and get there. Let's go grill package. Because it is perfect for the warmer weather people are getting the pollen off their grills and ready to fire them up. You get four butcher cut fillets you get four boneless pork chops. You get four boneless chicken breasts sausages you get scallop potatoes. Caramel apple tartlets. their signature seasoning. And pay attention to this one. You get twelve omaha. Steaks burgers almost four pounds of hamburgers for free for free. Now how do you get this omaha. Steaks dot com. 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The duke of edinburgh prince philip. The queen's husband for more than seven years has died and he wanted. I'm reading in the paper. During commercial break minimal. Fuss to begin with. He planned his funeral a decade ago when he was eighty nine. He died at ninety nine He wanted minimal fuss and now it's going to be less fuss. Because of covid regulations but great britain the united kingdom is starting to come out from behind closed doors because britain has been able to rally so many people there got the virus to begin with a lot of them have natural immunity but tons and tons and tons of people. in great britain. Now are getting the vaccine at a rapid clip a better than the rest of europe so so many people. I mentioned this yesterday. So many people have been saying that that they they just. They thought that britain would lag behind. They thought britain would be worse off that that britain would be terrible. But you know what They're ahead of the rest of europe and so even though they've still got some covert restrictions and the duke of edinburgh wanted minimal fuss. He will still get something now. He wanted no state funeral. What had no state funeral. So they won't get one but he is still going to be a big deal over there and they're going to be able to get this. They're going to be able to board him. Crowds have been lining up at buckingham palace dropping off flowers at windsor castle as well where he died. Crowds dropping off lots of flowers. This is going to be something to build. I mean we haven't seen anything like this I guess since the queen's mother died who had Queen elizabeth the queen mother. But i mean this is kind of historic whether you're a whether you're into the royal family or not Three generations of british subjects and of the commonwealth have had this guy as queen's husband. His image has appeared on coins along with hers. And so it'll it'll be a deal for a lot of people not as big as the. We'd i've got a friend of mine. Who's from the uk who's now an american citizen and it is remarkable the amount of affection he has for the british royal family particularly the queen. And the duke of edinburgh. Absolutely remarkable. he gets emotional talking about him as if the queen is his other mother and yet lived in the country and years and yet he still gets remarkably emotional about it What a connection to have a leader of your country who is not political In this country of course we tried to model to a degree the presidency to some degree after the king with very limited powers but combining the political and the national into one person and it has largely worked. The president's can still it sometimes lift people up. Who are partisans against them. But but like the queen and the duke of edinburgh in britain so remarkable to watch. When we come back stacey abrams. Oh yes we must talk about. Her meant schaefer is gonna join me. He's a texas state representative. Georgia just had its fight over election laws and now texas is having its and of course corporate america. The woke are gearing up to protest and boycott texas now Fortune five hundred companies coming out in harassing texas. I want to spend a little time on that next week in. And he is in the state house there where they are delving into this issue. Before i get into the stacey abrams stuff The national review is running. I just i want to play this for you and let me let me set this up for you. So you understand and i realize some of you. It's not a big deal for you your list. Why do we even care about this stuff. So when i was a kid. I grew up in dubai and in dubai if a member to this day actually if a member of the royal family died Radio and television was nothing but classical music for at least a week depending on the status of the royal it could be two weeks they would interrupt for news everyone would be dressed in black and it was a remarkable thing that we don't get anything like this really in this country with a president dies you know are just the most recent was president george h w bush passed away and the media coverage of that lasted for about a week through the duration of his funeral lots of daily coverage the day he died. I remember i was doing an event for clark howard My friend from wsb radio up in peachtree city and the news broke as i was driving and it wall to wall coverage that in multiple days on tv and radio. That was the coverage. That's the closest we get. We can't really understand what happens with the british all of the announcements come from the british broadcasting corporation and no one knows that the the press association and the like. You don't get word of this. It happens on the bbc. They interrupt and they make the announcement and then every other news channel can get it and the the telegraph from the london has put up the video of it happening. Live on the bbc and you can just hear. Martine crocs will the anchor she gets Super emotional. I want to play this worry and then i got to tell you what happens in the video. Says you can't see it because that's the other remarkable thing that happens with stuff like this. You're watching abc news. We have just received a statement from buckingham palace confirming that the duke of edinburgh has died. The statement says it is with deep sorrow that her majesty. The queen has announced the death of her beloved husband his royal highness. The prince philip duke of edinburgh. His royal highness passed away peacefully this morning. At windsor castle we have just received this information from buckingham palace. Let me repeat. This news is with deep sorrow. That's her majesty. The queen has announced the death of her beloved husband his royal highness. The prince philip duke of edinburgh. His royal highness passed away peacefully this morning at windsor castle year. That little clip the show. They they roll footage. B roll footage of the duke of edinburgh there and when the camera comes back to her she's been wearing jewelry and this this burgundy top and when the footage then comes back to her. She's in dressed all in black. an offer. jewelry is removed. and that's one of the things that the in countries that have royalty tend to do. is that the everyone dresses in black. So now if you go if you were to watch the livestream news coverage now from great britain from itv or from sky news or for the bbc everybody is now in black and the british royal family. For thirty days will wear black. There will be official mourning for eight days according to buckingham palace. David they'll all be in black for at least the next thirty days Flags at half staff for thirty days and for for royalty. At six months for six months they all wear black And for for if it was the head of state. It's just remarkable. i remember. This is a kid. I remember waking up one morning. Turn it on so grown up in dubai. It's different now. But when i was a kid there. Tv did not start until four. Pm started at three pm on saturdays but literally television did not come on until three o'clock in the afternoon. Four o'clock on weekdays and it started for fifteen minutes. There was a call to prayer and then there were kids cartoon programming for about an hour or so and then you started to bbc documentaries and then by eight o'clock you had some american tv show magnum. Pi dallas something all the violence and sex was cut out. So you're forty minute. American show would sometimes last twenty minutes if it was dallas and there was kissing. They'd cut it out and that was it. You'd have a twenty minute show and then you'd have a movie or something twenty one jump street it late nights of the little more grown up. It was very funny. Occasionally you used cast and the newscaster would come on and say good evening. There is no local news tonight. We'll get straight to weather and so the way it's going to be. It'll be ninety nine degrees today. No raid. that's the news today. Play some like musical interlude of the bbc video of train going through the countryside but when when someone died who is of note you turn on the tv and they're just be music that's it. There'd be the person's picture with english and arabic announcing the person had died in their life and there were just be music and for a week. There'd be nothing so you'd have to go to the the the we used to have this thing called the movie store where you could go get videotapes and you could watch movies. Gosh now my kids have no idea what the stuff is What is a blockbuster video. They have no idea I had to explain it to my kid. When i took him to see what captain marvel when she said in the nineties and she crash lands in a blockbuster video he's like what is this place. The call my gosh seriously aright. We can move on now. We gotta get into these stories. National review is doing really good work on this rich lowry. The editor of national review has a piece out The time stacey. Abrams suppress the law. By the time. The reader of stacey. Abrams book our time is now gets to page eighty nine. He is numb with the relentless. Contentions that any effort to make the georgia election system more secure economical any bureaucratic mistake or inefficiency is evidence of a dastardly scheme to suppress the vote. Then he is jolted alert again when abrahams rights. how while in the state legislature in two thousand eleven she co sponsored legislation to slash the early voting period in georgia in half and succeeded by her own logic stacey. Abrams suppressed vote in georgia. And did it more blatantly than anything in the state's new voting law which will actually extend early voting hours in many places. Anyone calling the georgia law. Jim crow two point zero at the very least has numerous should wrong. The stacey abrams supported bill in two thousand eleven should on these terms. Give the two point. Oh designation rendering the new law. Jim crow three point. Oh the abrahams legislation cut the days of voting from forty five all the way down to twenty one why. Abrams said that early voting could be a cost prohibitive burden to local governments similar jurisdictions. She writes complained. They'd have to cut back in other budget areas to maintain the longer period of early voting of the costs of keeping a facility open. Where the same whether many people were using it or not all doubtedly true but this didn't stop her and her allies from attributing the worst possible motives to localities. That closed down polling places of the basis of exactly the same kind of reasoning. It did make pencils fiscal sense for cash-strapped jurisdictions to continue to operate under utilize polling places in our book portrays such decisions as return to the bad old days enabled by the supreme court shelby decision that ended federal review of changes in the electoral system in georgia and elsewhere. She herself collaborated in this. She herself collaborated in reducing. The number of days of early voted in georgia. And now she went up to new jersey. Which has nine days of early voting and claims that somehow new jersey is more fair than georgia. She claims that somehow that it's better there with nine days She just making stuff up if we're honest about it. She's making wild claims for attention and the problem. Here of course is that abrams will. She knows all of the stuff. She knows that what she said isn't true but she also knows the media is never going to hold her to the truth because the media has a vested interest in helping the democrats keep people in synced an enraged now. The daily signal at the heritage foundation has done. What a lot of you have asked me to do. And i'm glad that they've done it. The daily signal Fred lucas has written a comparison of georgia's voting laws to the rest of the nation. Democrats have repeatedly denounced the new georgia election. Integrity law that requires. Id's rhapsody balanced but seldom criticizes blue states that have comparable laws on the books or in some cases laws. Make it more difficult to vote than georgia overall. The georgia laws pretty much in the mainstream. It is not regressive or restrictive jason steed executive director of honest elections project told the daily signal. The ability of absentee ballots in early voting is a lot more progressive than what's in blue states it turns out the more people learn about georgia's voting law one the more they like at a daily single poll which is left. Leaning has a plurality of people support georgia's law but also now the daily signal at the heritage foundation has compared georgia's law to blue state laws and it turns out that a number of democratic states blue states. they've got more odorous more burdensome election laws than georgia new york for example president biden could just as easily has been referring to new york state's election law what he said without specifying estate. That it's sick. It's sick cited example. Decided in some states that you can't bring water to people standing in line waiting to vote. New york prohibits providing meat drink tobacco refreshment or other provisions with a retail value of more than a dollar within one hundred feet of the entrances to polling places. Montana is the only other states besides new york. In georgia that prohibits campaign workers from handing out drinks. Georgia's law now allows for seventeen days of early voting. New york by contrast only allows ten days of in person voting. A new york post editorial noted the empire state fierce poorly on making it easier vote compared to georgia noting both more time to vote. Early and georgia's no excuse. Absentee voting new york requires voters have an excuse to cast an absentee ballot. Biden called georgia's voting system. Jim crow with the twenty first century. But unlike georgia biden's home state of delaware has never allowed early in person voting. The state will begin doing so in twenty twenty two even when delaware does allow it. Georgia will still provide seven more days early voting the delaware similar to georgia delaware law will allow saturday sunday voting however in delaware. They will require that. You be announced in your party be announced so people can challenge you at the polls. That's current georgia delaware delaware the first state to ratify the. Us constitution is among the last in the country to allow early voting in colorado. Were major league. Baseball is going George colorado's voting. Laws are more strict in some respects. It's not a clear cut comparison because colorado mails out ballots to all active voters but voter service. Polling centres must be open fifteen days before an election. That's to fewer the georgia moreover colorado's law states. If you're voting by mail for the first time you have to provide a photocopy of your identification when you return your mail in ballot. The georgia law will require the app. Steve valor to put their driver's license number or the last four digits of their social security number on the absentee ballot to vote in georgia. A person needs photo identification. Just as they do at the we'll call ticket window at coors field. David harsanyi at the national review analysis in new jersey. Stacey abrams the democratic lost. The twenty. eighteen governor's race in georgia beta virtual appearance to celebrate the state's new early voting law but new jersey provides nine fewer days of early voting. The georgia in rhode island rhode island. is more restrictive in some aspects. Rhode island has a stricter deadline requiring absentee ballot requests to be submitted. Twenty one days before election day. The eleven day deadline. That georgia requires puts. Georgiana are with texas arizona. Idaho isla florida has a ten day. Rule indiana has a twelve day rule. Nebraska requires request to be submitted by the third friday before the election was. Yuri requires application be made to wednesday's before the election rhode island has one of the most burdensome with a twenty one day on and on it goes it turns out that georgia's rules are right in line with a lot of democratic states or in some cases way more progressive the democratic states. Now a lot of you have been asking for this information if you text the word data to three three seven seven seven. I'm gonna send you back a link to this report the daily signal so you can compare it or share it with your friends all your friends. Who the georgia somehow has onerous burdensome rules now at election you can disabuse them of that by texting the word data to three three seven seven seven. I'll sit back this league for the heritage foundation report of the daily signal showing that there are a whole bunch of democratic states out there with including joe biden's own home state with way more burdensome rules than the state of georgia. They'll be shocked and appalled to learn. That georgia is actually fairly progressive compared to the democratic states. He's he's not on the job just outed himself as at mcdonnell's instead of actually working may have to fire him again but he lived. Mcdonald's any order to he ordered a burger and he said he just wanted bacon and cheese on the burger. They have literally given him a gun that has bacon and cheese between it and no burger. He should have gone to omaha steaks and he got gotten fourth algebra you literally. They gave him a bacon and cheese sandwich with no actual burger. Wow i did that the other day i actually. I use the app at mcdonnell's a use the app at mcdonald's to order a burger the other day And i i asked for extra ketchup and no pickles pickled my burger. Shut up your weird. I'm not. I don't like pickles number. They literally. I used the app so it came across exactly as i wanted it extra catch up and no pickles. They gave me no catch up extra mustard. An extra pickles. How do you screw this up. Is it any wonder that that The these companies are moving to Kiosks and machines yet. They're still screwed up the orders. I have no idea at this point. I'm getting kind of paranoid it. Do they know it's me and they're just gritted up. Initially it's like chick-fil-a the other day and so poor guy. He actually saw the he heard me talking about it on air and he reached out he was a good sport about it He got my order. And i got his order. I don't know how chick-fil-a does it to begin with. We should probably put chick-fil-a in charge. It's rare with screw up screwed up ours. The other day. I got that guy sausage biscuit and he got my Bacon egg and cheese with extra bacon and no cheese. Of course. I got his sausage egg and cheese with no cheese. I don't get it. But god bless the people chick-fil-a they're still the best How do you. how do you order. A burger would just bacon and cheese on it and they don't even give you the burger part of it i. I don't know i don't know but they did. They did. Maybe someone has a sense of humor aright. We ought to move on to other stuff Sony pictures is exiting the streaming wars. So you know everybody is coming up with her streaming packages and sony has given up. Sony has entered into a deal with netflix where net flicks will get. Its first run pictures. I so stars. Entertainment has been sony streaming service. I did not actually realize that. And everything's go to net now so more bs. Which is a spiderman. Offshoot with. Jared lido as a vampire and uncharted a tom holland picture about a playstation game. Oh that sounds like real winter. They're going to go to net flicks. I meanwhile you know Hbo max is doing a pretty good job. I'll tell you who's not a nbc comcast. They're peacock service. Kind kinda sucks. I got a buddy of mine. Who is a huge. Wwe fan loves wrestling. Has the wwe package and now they're making you use peacock and it's not even compatible with apparently some or most samsung. Tv's these had a terrible experience having paid for the package to be able to watch wrestling and now he can't The the the comcast people just seem to be inept when it comes to this the warner brothers. Hp mac services pretty good you know i gotta save you're looking for so if you have. Hbo max the guideline godzilla vs king kong. Now it is a it is a movie that does exactly as the title says it is. Godzilla vs king kong of the monsters are beating the crap out of each other within the first fifteen minutes of the movie and they do it for an hour and a half It's well done in my mind. Even if i watched it with my son. There's some language. But i mean it's monsters beating each other up It's not that bad. It's something to watch this weekend or watch. Ted lasso get your apple tv plus subscription and watch. Ted lassoed. Still the greatest. Tv show out there right now in my mind all right when i come back on monday Well i'll have some news for you. But i can't talk to you about it right now.

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Debunking The Latest Media Whopper  (Ep 1061)

The Dan Bongino Show

59:39 min | 1 year ago

Debunking The Latest Media Whopper (Ep 1061)

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Dan bongino nice big updates finished the audio book yesterday recording boarding it very happy. You're gonna love it. Book two coming out september twenty four th exonerated pick it up today finished up at some finishing touches re recorded a few things make take a little nicer a little emotion so <hes> lack. I'm really excited about the second book folks. Please pick it up for you today exonerated by be available on amazon barnes and noble and in bookstores friday stack show today. What do i got for you today. What do we got. It's going to be the bunka thon a liberal debunk on the gun issue which has been rife with misinformation. I've got some updated numbers on the economy good news very good news today thankfully and some more debunking global warming warming hoax hoax stories out there that the liberal media wants you to believe so it's a stack show eight is friday welcomed the dan bongino shell producer joe. How are you today my good. I am doing this friday. Joe of we need deep in emotion on these intros lately. I'm a little banged up today one to my ju jitsu class last night which i never do on the weekday because i don't like to wake up groggy raggi but there's a tournament this weekend so the school was closed on saturday so i went last night and folks i have to tell you i took a beating last knife. Those brazilian jujitsu grappling. I am a purple belt a no strike purple belt and i took a beating from a four stripe dr bluebell which are kind of like the same thing but he was not an excuse at all listened to no excuses and i'm forty four twenty or thirty. It just was quicker. I cannot i could just was quicker than me. I was in. We were doing this mount drill where you get into mount position on a guy. You know you see street fights and you got to hold it. I couldn't hold this guy's out. He was just quicker than me and my brain because i'm old and decaying my half life we're over my half. Life is it's speeding up like carbon dated. Okay i learnt position and my brain knows what i'm supposed to do. Preventive for pushing on the knee. Don't let him buck me up. Sit back chest to chest hip to hip. I know exactly what i'm supposed to do and buys me enjoy talking. He's like the same thing happens music. Dan your brain says do it and your fingers just don't worked at fast and he doesn't say my brain is like do this and my body just won't do it. This kid smoke me and i came home last night very depressed because i got nine elated and his drill i just could not hold this kid and it's driving me nuts because it my heyday i would have had had no problem. Gosh all right text. We gotta stack ob- try you but it's all right. Today's show brought to you buddies at helixsleep. Thank god for the helixsleep like sleep bachelet's last night because i slept well and woke up and felt pretty good. Go to helixsleep dot com slash. Dan get up to one hundred twenty five dollars. All you mattress orders. 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Had to acknowledge for those who missed it the job numbers came out this morning the official u._s. Government job numbers despite the new york times efforts to maggie haberman specifically to insinuate wait that trump had leaked the job numbers early. He was talking about the private industry a._d._p. Payroll numbers not the government numbers but it's the new york times whatever fake narratives they're even c._n._n. This morning had to acknowledge that the hundred and thirty thousand jobs created in august and the subsequent numbers coming out of that were pretty darn good listen to c._n._n. Joe this must have killed. Them killed them that to say this. You go take a look at the jobless rate three point seven percent this remains near a historic generational 'rational low about five hundred more than five hundred thousand people entered the labor market so these months and months and months of decent job numbers are encouraging people to come back in so that is an important sign of of success in the labor market right now a business information services big job gains there again healthcare these have been driving parts of the of the economy really a healthcare and business information systems folks c._n._n. Must have been like this. There was probably leaving with rage before having having to put this segment on the app listen. Was it the greatest job number again. I'm gonna give up on the downside. We're not here to kind of put lipstick on anything. It was a very solid all at number. Two prediction was one hundred sixty three thousand so it was a little below. Predictions was some revisions downwards but here's the upside. The upside is the unemployment employment rate held steady at historically low numbers three point seven percent despite the fact that you heard the clip yourself not me not the dan bongino show that five one hundred thousand people entered the workforce. Why does that matter folks it matters because even if we have significant job creation if more people start to enter to the workforce and declare themselves eligible to work the way the fractions work and you it's pretty simple to figure out the unemployment rate can actually pick up meaning job growth was so strong and so solid even more people entered the workforce and declared themselves eligible to work the unemployment rate percentage of people unemployed over the percentage of people eligible to work works still held steady three thousand manufacturing jobs recreated now debunking again liberal midst because you know they will lie about this even c._n._n. Had to tell the truth liberal politicians lie to you. That's what they do. That's how they make their living. It's all there about living fairy tale ending. The teddy rooks pinza politics. You stick a quarter of them. They'll tell you any the story want. They're going to say well wage growth. This is only for the rich ladies and gentlemen wages grew three point two percent again. A lot of that wage growth was focused at the lower lower end of the wage scale. Not the higher wages are going up. It went up three point. Two percents of the liberal mitha while wages are stagnant again. It's just not true. I don't know what else to say. It's just not true. They just made it up. It's incorrect. You're not accurate. You can repeat over and over. Will wages are stagnant. That doesn't make it true that just makes you a liar and it makes the people who repeated idiots for not doing their own homework. I'm sorry you're just dumb. You're not repeating repeating incorrect information over over and over pretending it's true and you're deceiving people again. I'm giving you the open the down because it's only right to do that. The numbers weren't spectacular martin off the charts. They were below expectations. They were very good. However these are not bad job growth numbers solid especially ten years into a recovery and then having to deal with eight years of obama's anemic recovery. Here's a fox business with some other notes. I want you to pay particular attention to the notes. Let's hear the the the video clip excuse me about black and hispanic unemployment as well minority unemployment go with the falkland average hourly wages up point four percent percent month over month for the last twelve months. It's up three point. Two percent labor force participation rate edged up at sixty three point two percent average hourly workweek also up point one hour thirty four point four hours non-supervisory wages rose eleven cents. The white unemployment rate three point four percent. I said black unemployment rate at a historic low since they've been keeping records in nineteen seventy two five point five percent hispanic unemployment rate four point two percent tation unemployment rate of two point eight percent again good numbers great. No oh very good right now i bring up and i wanted you to focus on the black and hispanic unemployment portion but at the end yeah folks. It's not that that matters. If you're unemployed you run employees whether you're black hispanic or asian shouldn't matter but it does matter because the liberals liberals are in love with a story not the stories and their narrative that donald trump has been bad for the minority community. Donald trump is his donald trump economy or the economy under donald trump probably have more precise way to phrase it that this isn't dude atrop- it's wages aren't growing. This is only for the rich minorities are struggling ladies and gentlemen. It's not true. It's just not true. I don't. I'm not sure why you want it to be true. You can still bill vote against donald trump. If you're a democrat you don't like him. Nobody is preventing you from doing that. But why you're living ally is genuinely puzzling to me black and hispanic unemployment limit under the trump economy. The economy under trump is flourishing. Unemployment is at historic lows for these minority groups. You're saying are being negatively impacted by trump policies. What you're saying is factually not correct. You're just wrong. You just wrong again. Do whatever you want you want to vote democrat. You wanna vote independent communist of do your thing. I'm not here that i'm not a liberal. I'm not the antique for the anti first amendment group. Tell you not to speak out or not to do your thing. I'm just saying if you're voting based on the idea that the economy under donald trump has negatively impacted wages in the minority community. You're voting on a lie vote for whatever other reason you don't like his stance on abortion fine but you're voting on a lie. We're your voting on. It's just not true. Okay all right good job numbers one downside that i just want to keep your eye on keeping the ball. Our national debt is exploding. There is no solution on the horizon ladies and gentlemen if we don't fix this soon again. I can't warn you enough. It's only a matter of time before this implodes on us so that is the one dark side to all of this in the future which have warned you about repeatedly all right moving on good job numbers wanna make sure i covered that right at the top of the show and do what we always do punking liberal mess now there was a great article sent to me by a listener forgive me. I forget who sent this over but good job very gray raped. I read a lot of your emails. This was a piece that reason dot com. I want to get it to the second amendment gun portion of the show because the misinformation out there after the odessa shooting is just just again extraordinary. The media refuses to tell the truth. This was a great piece about the gun. Buy back program air quotes which is really a gun confiscation that bettolo rourke can others are proposing a piece by john stokes reason mag the futility of a gun buyback before you ask how many americans will give up their guns. Ask how many cops cops will leave and try to take them. She gives me very very excellent piece very extraordinarily excellent piece surge pricing up at the show notes today but definitely worth your time go to bongino dot com read the article or if you subscribe to my email us which i always appreciate. I will email these articles every day gray piece. The question they're asking is a fair one so but to- roy robert francis so rock who's a really a backbencher pinscher now for the presidential nominee. He'll have to drop out soon at some point. If this keeps going the way it is saying well make no mistake. You are going to have to sell back your gun to the government well. I can't be a buyback if the government never owned it. The government doesn't own my firearm so there's no reason to sell them back to the government and as one leader of excuse me reader astutely pointed out to me joe so i'm going to need background. Check on these government. Officials want to take my guns back well joe hey great point and if they they don't pass my background check. I'm not interested so good point hat tip to the reader who sent that to me too. We should demand a background check government officials. I wanna know who they are right right. That's what the government wants from us so i want that from them to only fair but having said that a fair question to ask because we do facts here unlike the liberal media it's been lines. You meant just about everything. I'm reading. The economy guns the environment everything else. What a buyback or a confiscation. Which really is what it confiscation actually were so there's two things i think we should hit which is reason magazine does joe because we do it fair analysis and number one would be what were they've tried policies like this before because we're trying to give a comprehensive analysis of how this would actually work in the real world unlike the fairy tale and the liberals have been right. It's been tried before or models of it have been tried before and what is been the results. The people complied of the police officers who were supposed to do it. Complied people actually turn their guns in take away number one from the reason piece well l. ladies and gentlemen. This has actually been tried before in before i get to this in new zealand. This is in the piece. I didn't put it up in new zealand. They tried this and only ten percent of people people actually turned in their guns but more importantly for not gonna use new zealand. Let's use new york so new. York is not exactly a gun confiscation program but governor cuomo. She's me too <hes> quote to peace. They had this safe act in two thousand thirteen. It was one of the toughest gun control laws in the nation. One of its important provision according to the piece was the mandatory tori registration of all assault weapons in the state wasn't a confiscation or a band so it's not nearly as severe what a rock and others are pushing but it was just just the registration requirement so let's see how that worked out so to be clear. Beta wants to confiscate your firearms new york. Implement the registration requirement if you had a quote assault weapon which of course fabricated turn by the left. It's almost meaningless because they can't even tell you what it is so all you had to do. You have to turn them in joe. So you just had to go and register your assault weapons well. Would it be fair enough joe to say well if talking about confiscating them how how did compliance work when people were only asked to register those now we know a new zealand. The confiscation didn't work at all ninety. Percent of people flipped off the double barrel middle finger and saturnino thanks. I'm not turning those well. Let's see in the reason piece. How exactly did the registration requirement workout well. The answer is it didn't uh-huh a conservative estimate by the national shooting sports foundation found that new yorkers oh this is considering conservative here that new yorkers owned about one million an assault weapons air quotes. I have to put it in there. At the time. The ban was passed so you would assume show you get one million registrations for these quotas all right and you yes yeah well yeah well joe. I'm sorry again but that's not what happened. Forty four thousand we're actually registered which is about four percent of the total this noncompliance with the laws widespread mostly open but the police aren't even doing much about it. The piece goes on to talk about how the cops and a lot of local sheriff's sheriffs and a lot of local police department and law enforcement supervisors and officials in these places are like now we're not going to do that. We're not wasting. Police assets to go and take people see. I'm sorry we're just not doing it so you have a twofer so again unlike liberals who say like bego we're gonna confiscate your guns under the guise is of a buyback and never think to thomas calls face to write liberals never ever thomas sold the most brilliant i think economist and philosopher of our time who i adore his books that are just terrific change my whole life. Thomas solely says about liberals that they never ask the question okay and then what never yeah they put out. These platitudes latitudes this. We're gonna confiscate also weapons or dangerous. They never say okay and then what happens. How do you actually do it because when you say well. We've tried things like this in the past and then what what happened you get grow. I mean gross levels of vitamin b. Gross in a qualitatively bad way of large. You have unbelievable noncompliance. People just say no. We're not doing it and the cops were like yeah. We're not getting them so i. I guess my point is what's the point. Now i wanna get to the second part of this and the second the noncompliance man but fair enough i again this show is i'm a conservative. I i listened to your liberal email. Sometimes i actually get one guy said hey. I'm a liberal. I this new show and i actually brought up a good point. I forget what it was a while ago but i i had discussed it on the show but a lot of the liberal emails from people they don't think things through even they're questioning like one person emailed me for example liberal and said well dan if you're saying noncompliance with gun laws in other words my point on fox and elsewhere when i talk about gun laws as a former law enforcement guy myself has been folks. Criminals don't care about gun laws. The evidence is overwhelming. Were gun. Laws are the strongest and some of our inner cities gun. Crime is the highest. I i don't know what else you need to hear even my interviews with people in the street when i arrested him for gun crimes. Hey you know that's against the law. They're like man. I don't care about that laugh at you. Like what are you idiot gun laws. I get it from ceelo on the corner. They don't i'm just i'm not messing with you. They'd be like this. That's a real guy appreciate c. Low we've got a corner for whatever five six hundred bucks to saturday night specials those goods data gun. What are you in you like. You're crazy like dude. Why would i care about gun laws. They just don't care the evidence is overwhelming but fair enough liberals have emailed me and said well what's the point of any law then if you think people criminals just ignore laws and we should just that no that's it's not the point you're missing the point ladies and gentlemen. The purpose of laws is to put parameters and offense around around the behavior of criminals but to not obstruct the legal big our god given rights of law abiding citizens. Let let me give you an example because that may have been a little too word superfluous. Okay we have burglary. Laws right to burglary. Laws are meant to prevent your you're god-given big our rights to property in other words i my i have god given rights to own property private property. Burglary laws are in effect to say you joey bag a donuts. A criminal can't take my property. It is against the law and you can be prosecuted for it. It puts puts a limit on the bad guy not on me why because i'm not a burglar steel and stuff so you get it. The the purpose of laws legions of examples assure robbery assault with a deadly weapon. I have the right to life. Life liberty and the pursuit would have happened if you kill me. You've taken all of those. That's why there's a law against homicide. Larceny got laws working the opposite opposite they put perimeters prescriptions around the behavior of the law abiding against burr being able they prevent them from being able to protect themselves while doing absolutely nothing to stop the behavior of criminals who don't care. That's how you know. It's ineffective law. It doesn't do anything to stop criminals. They don't care. The evidence is overwhelming. All it does is put obstacles in front of law abiding fighting citizens who want to exercise their god given right to protect themselves against said criminals so your your your email which i get and i get. I'm reading them on the air so thanks for emailing me your email that well what's the point of any law. No no you're missing the point of law. It's the stop the behavior of criminals awesome infringing on our god given rights not to stop the god given rights of people infringe on them from protecting themselves against criminals tat's not the point of our laws. It's never been that's why gun laws are so stupid. They don't work second. It's amazing from this reason piece. It's just phenomenal how they liberals again. Change their minds about anything. When it comes to lost following us liberal so law the land obamacare the law of the way you must've gun laws of the land yeah but then when it comes to other laws they don't like liberals like forget. It put up this quote from the reason piece. This was a great fine by the author john stokes who was this who said this quote when a prominent politician kind of goes after these phantom tim sanctuary cities and talks about how bad they are basically but he's going after his police chiefs and i trust police chiefs in terms of knowing what should be done to keep their community. The safer and police department mayors a lot more than i trust that of a washington politician was that donald trump going after gun laws ignore gun laws. I trust the locals pulls. No that was tim kaine hillary clinton's vice presidential nominee talking about how we should just ignore immigration laws and trust the locals to enforce forcet. What is it so on gun laws. When the local police chiefs in the mayors who respect the second amendment saying we're not enforcing that we're not confiscating people's guns deb it get lock him up to confiscate his gun but then when it comes to immigration laws they don't like joe and local say we're not enforcing that where a sanctuary city. They're like that's great. We trust the locals more. These are total frauds their total. You understand their total frauds here. Frauds and i don't like obamacare unfortunately was passed. I have to buy buy buy. I'd say there's no moral inconsistency there. There's never having said that. I have an executed god given right to protect myself enshrined in the second amendment your law saying the second amendment is the second marriage law. I'm sorry it may be some bill you side but it's not a law. They can't have it both ways. It's misinformation was just incredible. I got more what's gonna be still haven't got to the global warming hoax up. This is going to be an absolute the bunker but i wanna get next to another one of these misinformation pieces so again the first piece just to tie that up. It's got a gun confiscation laws. This is the solution. It's never worked. Nobody's giving you there guys. It's not gonna work. The evidence is overwhelming the next one. I wanna get to hold donate. This is infuriating the whole donations thing the n._r._a.'s buying vying off all these politicians really. Let's compare with the n._r._a. Spence versus other groups. There's conveniently left out all right. Today's show also brought to you by but he's at stamps dot com stamps obstat communist. You have time to go to post office now. You probably know what you're probably busy like me impala joe and everybody else you got things to do. Who's got time for the traffic the parking lugging all your mail and packages. It's a hassle. That's why you need. 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Dan okay okay so i've been inundated again with emails from liberals and some conservatives dan. Can you talk about this whole n._r._a. Buying off politicians they were all wherever they're bribing all these people it's over the end everybody but a call massacre mitch mcconnell bought up by the array so i said okay because this show does faxon data. I think it would be responsible to talk about how lobbying actually works how much money is spent how conservative -servative groups influence elections how liberal groups specifically. Let's talk about the n._r._a. Again disclosure. I never worked for the n._r._a. Contrary to what liberals tell you. They can't stop lying. I did work at a._t. As many of you know that is not the n._r._a. As you can tell by the lawsuit now was a production company that does production for the n._r._a. Did not work work for the n._r._a. But liberals will lie to you because again that's what they do so here's a piece by kimberley strassel who is one of the finest reports out. There does actual work yeah. She's grant. I'm not home can't believe you must really like words yeah. Da da da show up at potomac watch. Which is her opinion section at the wall wall street. Journal says the left's lucrative nonprofits. That's the title powerful interests in dark. Money are mostly on the democratic side side. Where am i wait. Hold on keep that up did tighter on september fifteen hundred. I thought we been told by the media out there who lies to wisconsin that dark money's republican publican problem apparently not from kim strassel peace. Let's talk about how much dark money is spent. Liberal causes versus conservative causes okay. Let's get right to it. Liberal public policy charities organized under the five. Oh one c. three taxco bag seven point four billion of this foundation. They should money in two thousand fourteen talk by so liberals just to be clear because i know liberals of a tough time with met so these dark money they're talking about. Liberal nonprofit profit liberal public policy charities got seven point four billion for conservative charities to figure must have been higher because we've been told by the media clearly. It was higher than seven point four billion dark. Money's republican no baker was a mere two point two billion seven point four billion also dwarf the total two thousand thirteen fourteen campaign receipts to federal state and local campaigns four point one billion in that spending cycle by independent groups eight hundred thirty minutes so nope folks you have almost three times as many liberal public policy initiatives bake. Ah flu influencing elections and public thought you have nearly three times as much money going into liberals dark but i just i mean i'm telling you i wake up every morning. I'm like what can you tell me. Is there one is there just one thing liberals. Tell all the tr- well he's nothing personal stuff and i'm talking about the big macro to the micro issues because you know i don't wanna get into like individual stories but in the macro debate about the big things education economics firearms the second amendment abortion brighter life do liberals. Tell tell the truth about anything i. I'm not kidding like i almost at the point now where it's getting so easy to bunker stuff. I want them to actually debunk me at simple doric. Money's a republican problem. You guys are getting almost three times as much as four times as much money. Do these public policy liberal groups conservative groups getting who wears the dark money problem on your side now. Let's get to the n._r._a. Specifically perfect so here's a national review article about how much money specifically has been sped by each of these by the n._r._a. Versus by planned parenthood and others have it up in the this show notes today for you to check out folks by alexandra descent this. This is from february twenty eighth of two thousand eighteen n._r._a. Critics ignored the political influence influential planned parenthood from the peace folks again the n._r._a. You may say the n._r._a. Spends money on lobbying and they do donate. There's no doubt about and i'm not here to tell you. They don't the problem i have with the liberal critics of it is when you bring up the counterpoint that planned parenthood many cases and their affiliates. It's an associated groups donates more money data well. That doesn't matter that doesn't influence how we think. It's only the bad guys at the n._r._a. That do so from the peace piece. During the twenty sixteen election cycle alone planned parenthood's political action arms shelled-out over thirty eight million to elect democratic eric politicians in his two thousand sixteen two thousand seventeen annual report the group sport reported spending forty million of public policy as well as upwards of one hundred and seventy five million in such nebulous categories has movement building strengthening insecure planned parenthood and engaging communities undoubtedly much of that money is flooding into the pockets of those who will push for policies benefit planned parenthood's bottom line by protecting abortion on demand. Keep in mind and unlike the n._r._a. They get taxpayer money upwards of five five hundred million a year or did. Where's that conversation again. I'm not suggesting to you or sitting here telling you that the n._r._a. Doesn't attempt to influence public policy in the direction of second amendment protections. I'm not saying that i'm being transparent and in august again. I didn't work there. I'm just giving you the facts but when you look at actual political donations the n._r._a. Since two thousand twelve planned parenthood spent two point six million on direct political donations n._r._a. Two point seven effectively the same amount donations now they did spend depending on the estimates us fifty five million on issue advocacy and elections in two thousand sixteen which is a good amount of money but again planned parachute is almost the exact same figure when you're talking about donations and four greater when you're talking about outside influence so if we're going to have have a fair conversation the reason i bring this up. Is that my friend. Wayne listened to my show. I ran into him in the gym the other day and he's like i'm getting tired of this. This constant demonization the the n._r._a. Is being this seven hundred pound boogeyman in the room if they're bad if n._r._a. Bed already bad because they donate money you can't that he said why is planned parenthood nick leeson no no that's good money we are advocating for the termination of life and that's a noble caught so you have one group advocating for the right for you to protect yourself against criminals. That's what they do bad. This groups advocating for wiping out life into no no. That's good money have any effect at all again again. They're hypocrites you as a conservative or libertarian. We're principles. We have no problem saying yes. You are correct. There are lobbies out out there that advocate for the second amendment and the rights of firearm owners out there. Yes you're correct. Does that money go to some politicians. Yes it does does does that influence those politicians i would think how can you say that because i'm not an idiot now. Does it influence. All politicians know you may see that's impossible. Then you get a donation. If does it ladies and gentlemen. I been a second amendment advocate on this show for my entire life and during my entire tenure doing the dan bongino show. I assure you if i ran for office and r._a. Donated money means. It's not going to make me extra super second amendments. You get what i'm saying. Are there some on the fence that may be influenced by political money your folks. We'd be morons to say no all all of us. Of course we're human beings. They're influenced by this stuff. I have no problem saying that but most of the people advocating for second amendment rights believes before the n._r._a. Donation having said that the same goes for planned parenthood because again. We're principled here. We're not lawyers like the left. There are liberals out there running for office. Joe who believe in life could be terminated in the womb to the nine months of pregnancy. They believe that had the planned. Parenthood donation is going to affect them one bit. It's going to help them but likewise vice. Versa are there other democrats out there. Who may i've had pro-life tendencies who now because planned parenthood money are going to become rabidly pro abortion of course but again. We're principled unlike the left that just will not tell you the truth blonde marnie the n._r._a. What about blood money at planned parenthood where actual will life is terminated fury. What let me get this war. We'll more sponsored today because i want to go. I got a lot of really good stuff where red flags for red flag laws big trouble for red flags and i've got the perfect example and i also have i. I have some video at the end of the show. I don't want you to miss the ban. This brigade hat tip elizabeth harrington on twitter this montage on c._n._n. Of liberals wanting to basically we ban every existed price stadium all right today show brought to you by bravo bravo bravo company manufacturing ladies and gentlemen. They manufactured the finest rifles fulsome pistols in the market. 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They call them gun violence protection orders <hes> where you can go to court without charging someone with a crime. That's the problem i have with these and you can have someone's gonna conne- gun. Someone's guns confiscated a firearms confiscated without without accused of a crime now folks the potential for abuse now. I don't have any doubt that if you were to implement these like anything else joe. I mean if we were to implement a say a no need for a search warrant policy right save. You throw the constitution out the window. Give me an example why don't like red flags right if we were would it throw out to search warrant requirement the constitution yes. You'd prevent some crimes cops. Could you storm into whatever house they wanted. Eventually you're gonna find people selling drugs. You would have sacrificed liberty for security and later. You'd have none because there'd be a mass revolt because people would want their civil liberties back right the same thing with red flag was. Are you gonna stop gun. Crimes probably the the problem i have with him is the potential for abuse is massive. How do i know that look at this story legal insurrection what's going on in san francisco right now. <hes> be up in the show notes by leslie eastman. San francisco declares the n._r._a. To be a quote domestic terrorist organization so let me be clear on this the same organization that excuse me the same city that has a human defecation russian map so you can avoid stepping in human waste because people consider the streets of san francisco because it's so poorly run a one big public bathroom as my my buddy. Tim used to say the least he was my co instructor the secret service academy. He said the world's man's bathroom and he was yeah. I don't think he meant that in san francisco okay. They can't even claim the poop off the streets. They wanna start designating people's domestic terror because you're an n._r._a. Member or your member of the n._r._a. The same people by the way did i lose you on the audio there yeah i was gonna say because i didn't hear you for a second. I was like joey. I usually hear a grunt here in arizona so we're talking about the so san francisco that kid clean a poof off its own streets. You want them to be able to designate people to san francisco. Government is at red flag. It'd be able to take your guns while now this is the same city by the way san francisco remember the story from a week ago the same city that doesn't want you anymore. In official city paperwork to refer to felons as felons they want what you to refer to them as justice involve persons so just to be clear san francisco the human waste in the streets capital. The united states the the defecation capital of the world san francisco if you're an n._r._a. Member you're a domestic terrorist but if you're a felon you're a justice involved person the ladies and gentlemen if that isn't a red flag for red flag laws. I don't know what is stay away to the trump administration. This is is a really really bad idea. These red flag lists. They will absolutely blow up in people's faces because governments like san francisco are guaranteed to abuse them all right. Here's a quick story moving on last thing on the firearm issue because it's important the bongino rule again. I can't tell oh you this enough way. Twenty four to seventy two hours before reporting on an anti conservative anti trump story making making its way around the media. There is a significant not one hundred percent but a significant chance the story will be debunked later now. I'm just going to give you one example well. Here's a tweet by jim shudo from c._n._n. New odessa gunman purchased weapon in private sale which is not require a background check. Josh campbell campbell disgraced former f._b._i. Guy reporting this guy. Just is a hack on c._n._n.'s guy campbell so that of course remember jim shudo c._n._n. Dan and his lackey josh campbell. Many federal arrests that guy ever made he was like the komi dude. I think it's the same guy they're reporting and just so you're clear again ace story not thus story and the narrative they're reporting on c._n._n. Shudo and others is the odessa shooting. There was a loophole. We gotta fix the law for background checks in other words. He made eighty circum way slithering his way around the law yeah so you're meant to believe leave here that the law a new background check law would have stopped him because what he did was legal. Please tell me before. I go on <hes> because there's an answer. Have you please. I'm gonna put up in a second if you would have waited unlike jim shooter when josh campbell if you would have waited twenty four to seventy two hours which i always do before reporting on these types of stories you would have found out that the narrative they're trying to tell you that this guy didn't break the law joe that the largest wasn't strong enough and if we had better laws this guy wouldn't have been able to buy this gun. If you would report a dad you would have been wrong again like national review ladies and gentlemen the gun used in the texas odessa shooting was illegally manufactured and sold jack crow. Oh national review september fifth twenty nineteen being the show notes today folks as i was debating chris hani and laura ingram wednesday night trying to explain to chris this liberal chris who is not getting it lately. The odessa shooting wasn't illegal sale. The fact that it was private is irrelevant it. It was not legal. The odessa shooter was prohibited from buying that firearm eighteen nineteen twenty one and the guy who made it illegally manufactured it and engaged in an illegal sale to him. It was already against the law. What are you what i said this the other night and a lot. The people email me that i wasn't trying to be funny. I was trying to the fact that it became off as humorous was unintended but i said to chris so the odessa shooting that guy already already broke the law and you wanna make another law to make it what joe extra super calo fragile listrik illegal yeah shack justice sweet twins activate illegal like really really illegal extra super legal it was already illegal so in other words v he story not the narrative these story the real story if you would have waited is the au dessus shooter illegally but if firearm because he didn't care about the law that's the facts. How do you know he didn't care about the law because he did it anyway. He tried to buy a firearm was told no so we went around engaged in an illegal sale. The fact that it was private is relevant. If i can hat tip david harsanyi on twitter harsanyi made a great point on twitter notice how with the liberal this is excellent. Excellent verdict is in excellent point david harsanyi joe when someone buys crack in the street and a private sale yeah. Do you refer to that as a private crack sale. I was in a legal sense. You know what goes it was a private sale crack. It was an illegal drug by yeah. Yeah we need the street. You saw them crack without a better chance legal against the law. The criminals don't care at the guy who sold the drugs doesn't care the guy bought the drug. They don't care okay nor did this. Guy i did not engage in a private gun sale. It was an illegal gun sale. They're only using the term private sale because they want to reinforce this image edge that there's this major loophole yet these people and if we just fixed it by another law it would stop people there. Already is a law. If you're a prohibited possessor you cannot buy and you cannot loan prohibited possessory firearm. She just don't care reinforcing my point from the beginning that gun laws. I don't work probably just as poorly as drug laws. Don't work the differences. There is zeh public good to owning a firearm to protect yourself. There is no public good from smoking crack none. No i don't make a strong case drug ugh laws. Do i mean that's a whole other. Show up feedback on it but but that's a we don't have the time for this here but at least with crack. It's a very difficult for coach documents to make like you know what it's good for way loss. Not you know it's a really awful thing and in a plague on our society -iety owning a firearm is not right people protect themselves their property areas that have a second amendment edmund based laws and regulations. You see lower property crime rates. 'cause people don't want to break into a house where the owner could defend themselves. Oh my gosh if you just would awaited but they can't reporting. It was a private sale. The private crack sale asst. I know you understand the others. Are we do the show like a common evergreen. Themes has always been to point out to you the narrative you've so you see it now whenever you see on twitter on facebook. It was a private sale your first question should we was illegal. Yes it was so why is it. Why does it private matter. What's the it doesn't matter. What does that add to the story. It was an illegal gun sale. It'd be no different than if a gun owner in a gun stores n._f._l. Sells a gun to a guy who's a prohibited possessor. It was a gun store sales. It wasn't illegal sale. Go down didn't matter. It doesn't doesn't matter criminals don't care framing. It's how they frame issues when we learned to pick them apart we can more effectively debate this stuff and remember. We're never debating the libs. They're not opening information. I'm sorry most of them. You're debating the liberal so the third party guy or woman listening hears it and seize your the more rational channel one all right moving on so the ban brigade continues this great montage again hat tip elizabeth harrington twitter to see got an telethon on the global warming hoax which was esther for the candidates. They're all on the record now all these candidates who agreed in the global hoax a thon on global warming hoax if they're all on the record now talking about banning everything from cheeseburgers bring on a rib is as i said yesterday cheeseburgers cow farting other they want to ban everything here's a little montage they put together of the global warming hoax on and all the band's check this out. There's no question i'm in favor favor of banning fracking. We're gonna be okay if the vast majority of the world goes vegetarian coal burning plants. No one's going to build another cockburn shut the ones now. We have to ban plastic strauss. I love division of the green new deal do away with commercial air travel and a lot of other things we have to take the take combustion engine vehicles off road as rapidly as we can offshore drilling oil which abandoned yes absolutely yes. Yes some of it is with white bold. Some of it is on straw straw dang on cheeseburgers right. I was writing that down. She might pan. I'm furiously writing so here's the back from the democrats what his straws plastic straws cole. I wrote so oh. I can't even read what i wrote. What is that oh god natural gas. It looks like cars such as they want to bear to air travel on engine's combustion engines offshore ashort drilling what is this one cheese burgers and so we'll stress cold gas air travel engines really me and cheeseburgers burgers. I don't i don't know what's up. I don't know how my house would even knowing me for dinner. I wouldn't be able to travel to new york to work. I can't drive anywhere because i have a combustion engine. We don't have what we do. Have natural gas coal. I don't know what percentage but you're plastic straws ause. We use glass jars in house anyway. It's not really much of an environmental thing although listen if we can find options great folks you understand like how ridiculous party is aw to ban brigade took a couple of notes here because i think what makes our show different is. I like to address the level of color commentary just not that rant rancher great but they don't really help beulah at just remember. I cited thomas soul before to tie showed again. If you read thomas oils fantastic book vision of the anointed he talks about this how the central planners have this fatal fatal conceit to quote this fatal conceit this knowledge problem but they don't think it's a problem in other words. The people wanna plan your world. Get rid of cole. Get rid of gas. We're gonna plan and for so you understand if they had the knowledge to effectively implement an energy policy that was market-based effective and would work they'd be in the private sector and not government therese there in government telling you what you can't do is because they failed at finding what you could do in the private sector they could find no way to find a hole in in our economy they could fill and they can't make any real money in the private sector because they're not smart enough so they go into government and they have the fatal conceit of the knowledge problem where they think they're now smart mart enough in government to tell you what they couldn't figure out in the private sector themselves the anointed ones as thomas so-called vision of the anointed self anointed genius this planners who plan a simple company to make money in the private sector but all of a sudden can figure out how to marshal resources the entire u._s. economy sure good job guys all right mazing them going to wrap this up. This is another great article commentary magazine in the show notes today. I really like you to read this very short but it's very good john steele gordon september third twenty nineteen commentary mac global warming since or bad data garbage in garbage zhao folks more debunking of the biggest hoax of our time the global warming hoax more evidence. I should say now. You would think if you were trying to show joe. I'll get to some snippets from this piece in a second if you were trying to show that the globe is warming jody you it's not a trick question. That's setting you up the audience on buds men either hat here and it gives you if we were looking to see that the global warming and to prove the global warming hoax was not a hoax. Do you think you'd need temperature readings to do that not a trick question. Yes dan temperature pretty okay. I would be very good right yeah. It'd be a major part of showing temperature went up. Okay good job. Your audience southwest becomes through in the clutch well. Do you think those temperature readings readings would be a problem if the devices you were using to obtain those temperatures were say sitting behind a chinese food place that had a heat vent blowing coming onto the temperature not doing that out there for it. That would suck everything up. Dan very witty yeah from the commentary piece. This is so good so folks. We had these temperature sensors that are trying to prove the global warming hoax this real well. What's the problem with the sensors so check this out. Many of these sensors stations have a big problem. They haven't changed appreciably over the years but the land around them has often often profoundly with big growth in urban suburban areas yeah listen to this one the weather station that was put in the middle of nassau county long island where i live for a point it it was a potato field in one thousand nine hundred thousand three but the censor still in the same spot but the potatoes are god and that which behind a strip mall twenty feet read from the kitchen exhaust fan of chinese takeout joint you mighty act to folks these weather stations. Have it moved kind of a problem. If your kitchen exhaust fan that maybe an issue you know the again the incompetence here studying now. You may say okay you just mentioned one piece goes on. I'm not done a study by meteorologist anthony that he wants found that almost ninety percent of the one thousand two hundred twenty one weather stations in the u._s. did not meet the national weather service's setting standards which which requires that they be at least one hundred feet for many artificial heat source or radiating service unbelievable you can see some of the most oh sagredo violators here and they have a lincoln the peace read it to deal with to get along then here's their solution this is this is this is unbelievable to deal with this defective information like a thermometer or a heat station near a heat source climate scientists show have adjusted the date at a solve the problem okay now invariably these adjustments made earlier data show lower temperatures and recent data show higher shocker folks. Can you hear it. The have different from that peace could be high in nassau county your january ninety eight degrees. What do you do you listen. There were a lot of kung pao chicken january january the one hundred four meanwhile you go to the place and the guy who wants to chinese food restaurants that record orders of kung pao chicken. It's nearly the exhaust fan. You think you may want to look that. No no don't worry. We'll just adjusted down. It's not hundred four january joe. It was only eighty two-point you point out the county long. Island poli bose's daniel. Oh my gosh talk again. I just i'm not suggesting to you that we don't have an impact on our climate we do to of course we did when we were back in our neanderthal days or when when the north america was populated largely by american indians they lit it fires to folks fires emitted co two and other a products into the atmosphere human beings naturally reproduce waste as a function of living. It's it's not a matter of if or not if it's a matter of how much what's the impact. I'm simply suggesting to you. Thep illiberal global warming hoax is a hoax. The slope is not warming to some catastrophic levels. We're all gonna die. Matter of fact a piece points out at the end when you look at noah the national oceanographic administration we look at the air temperature stations you see temperature. Folks has been relatively stable for a very long time now. It's not sets that was that was a fun show. We subscribe on our youtube channel. That was a good time youtube. Dot com slash budget jat less segment crack man. You're not supposed to love your jokes but i thought it was funny. Also subscribe to the show on apple podcast google podcast and please pick up my book exonerated zonta ratings coming out september twenty fourth you pre-order it. Now you'll have it. I think amazon ships out a little early barnes and noble. Please check it out just finished the audiobook. You're gonna love love it. Put a lot of good work into it so please exonerated amazon barnes and noble coming out bookstores everywhere. I promise you're gonna love this book. 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Ep. 1177 - Trumps Last Day, And Bidens First

The Ben Shapiro Show

51:11 min | 4 months ago

Ep. 1177 - Trumps Last Day, And Bidens First

"President trump gives his farewell address. The media go full meg ryan in when harry met sally over joe biden and president. Biden's early pistone inspire a lot of confidence. I'm ben shapiro. This is the ben shapiro. Show the ben shapiro. Show is sponsored by expressive. Vpn your data is your business protected at express vpn dot com slash. Ben will attack. Man is coming for you and that means the union to save money in fact that was one of your new year's resolutions to save money in the next year. Let's check that box right now when your family's switches to pure talk from and t. rising or t mobile it could save over eight hundred dollars a year. That is real money every single month. Right back in your pocket. You don't have to sacrifice coverage pure talk is on the same network is one of the big carriers. They're gonna charge you about half. that's right. No gimmicks no fluff added to the bills. That is why pure talk. The top rated wireless company by consumer affairs. 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Depending on when you're listening to this and And joe biden is slated to take office round at noon eastern time. He'll be sworn in slightly before. Then that is when he is going to be giving his inauguration address and we'll be covering that a little bit later on when he actually gives it. But i president trump has to leave. President trump gave a farewell address last night and honestly listening to the farewell address. It makes you sad for a couple of reasons. One what we're about to get from the biden administration's not going to be conducive to american liberty for all the talk about the wonders of of joe biden. Which will get you in. Just a second and how. He's going to bring the country together. The reality is the next four. Years are going to be a time. In which many of your core liberties are encroached upon religious liberty will be encroached upon freedom of speech will be encroached upon freedom of association will be encroached upon all in the name of healing and unity. That is what we can expect over the next four years. I hope that is not so as with every president every week in shoal in in my synagogue we pray for the government of the united states including the president of the united states will continue to do that for joe biden. Obviously because you pray for the person who was who is holding the office. I just pray. That joe biden doesn't do what is base wants to do which is to encroach upon those core liberties that americans hold dear so seeing trump leave office and in some ways he was a bulwark against a lot of encroachments. That's yet it's also sad to hear trump's farewell address in the sense that you hear what could have been had. He stayed on message. And this is something that that so many of us said for years at a time which was trump is giving us all this good policy ready to convince the judge that we want. He's giving us the foreign policy that we want. He's giving us a booming economy. Why can't he just stay out of his own way. Why does he just stay on the teleprompter so last night gives farewell address in his farewell address is replete with a bunch of statements. The frankly are great or he says a lot of things here that i wish he had just said for four years and by the way if had said that for four years long then he wouldn't be leaving the white house with this this sort of aura of depression. Right if he he probably wouldn't be leaving the white house at all. If he had stopped with the extraneous nonsense that he was doing throughout his administration and had just stuck to the fact that his administration accomplished some pretty fantastic fantastic things. Here is trump in his address. Leading off as i conclude my term as the forty fifth president of the united states. I stand before you truly proud of what we have achieved together. We did what we came here to do. And so much more. This week we inaugurate a new administration and pray for its success. In keeping america safe and prosperous we extend our best wishes and we also want them to have luck a very important word. Okay so he's still not mentioned. Joe biden in there but obviously he's talking about the incoming biden administration he then continues and talks about american unity. I this is the message that i wish. He'd been pressing forward for his entire time in office. Yes he was taking unbelievable slings and arrows like no president in the modern history of the united states. I mean it was way. Worse than what george w bush had to take. Yes it is true that he was taking incoming fire from people inside the executive branch through the russia investigation and the perversion of that investigation. All of that is true. It is also true that if you had presented an optimistic face of the american public during what was a boom time in america before covid would have served him quite well. here is trump talking about american unity. We must never forget that. While americans will always have our disagreements. We are a nation of incredible decent faithful and peace loving citizens who all want our country to thrive and flourish and be very very successful in. Good we are a truly magnificent nation. President from continued along these lines. He talked about how americans were horrified by the assaults on the capitol building and again this is true. I understand that for a lot of media for a lot of democrats. The idea here is that republicans were totally fine with the assault on the capitol building. That is not true. The attempt to lump everybody in with the capital. Riders is being used as a pretext. In order to encroach on american liberties. Here is from talking about the The horrible events of january sixth all americans were horrified by the assault on our capital. Political violence is an attack on everything. We cherish it can never be tolerated now more than ever. We must unify shared values and rise above the partisan rancor and forger common destiny he He again talked about his his movement. He talked about the movement that he had led i and honest to god if you stayed on his message i it's it's a. It's the reason i'm frustrated. Here is because again. We're gonna talk in a second about what's about to hit. The united states in the form of the biden administration and a lot of people are saying return to normalcy. Returning in some ways will be returned to normalcy right. You're not going to get the extraordinary bloviating. You're not gonna get the crazy tweet. You're not gonna get the daily news cycle that revolves around something weird that went from trump's head and then got spilled out on twitter. That's not what you're going to get all you're going to get in my opinion and this is my prediction is consistently bad policy. The violence you're right. That's what you're going to get so if that's the old normal you'll normal that great. I remember the obama years. And i remember the gas lighting. The media put us through. I remember the establishment media defending everything. Obama did even as he encroached on their own liberties. Right obama jailed. Journalists obama was engaging in foreign wars without congressional supervision and the media treated like it was nothing the media treated it like the only scandal of the obama administration was that he wants war tan suit. So we can go right back to that. We're just going to get the steady encroachment on american liberty. But we're not going to get at least the circus right to circus won't be in town as much but you know instead we'll get actual policy. That violates rights. we'll get actual bad stuff happening in the united states much worse than anything. That trump did in terms of policy is trump talking about his movement together with millions of hardworking patriots. Across this land. We built the greatest political movement in the history of our country. We restored the principle that a nation exists to serve its citizens. Our agenda was not about right left. It wasn't about republican or democrat but about the good of a nation and that means the whole nation okay and and then he spilled out a series of his accomplishments and they are real accomplishments or he talked about the income rising throughout the nation in the senate ways in the early years of the administration by the stock market. Boom he talked about how when the nation was with the pandemic operation warp speed helps contribute to the development of vaccine inside of months not years months nine months when he talked about border policy including agreements of mexico. Guatemala honduras el salvador to keep people in those countries. They applied for asylum as well as building wall. He talked about america's foreign policy and restoring certain level of foreign policy. Leadership is completely lacking. I mean it was barack obama who suggested that america had lead from behind which is a contradiction in terms. You may have noticed. The trump didn't do that from gone his own way on foreign policy but all too often going his own way meant actual good foreign policy and he talked about his his policy in the middle east. Which leads you historic peace agreements. That never would have been possible under a democratic administration because the democrats believe that the only way to solve the question of peace in the middle east is to force our only ally in the region israel into concessions to terrorists trump overturned that agenda and instead he said you know what rose not going anywhere. We're recognizing jerusalem as israel's capital recognizing the golan heights is israeli sovereign territory. And they're not going anywhere so you may as well make peace with them. If you want to fend off the iranian threat and it worked. It worked in extraordinary ways. The abraham accords are a major accomplishment major diplomatic accomplishment that if they had occurred under any other president would would've undoubtedly one that president and nobel peace prize but most of all most of all what trump should stood for. What was the message that he was putting out in some major addresses whether it was his address in poland with regard to western civilization or his address at mount rushmore with regards to american values. The notion that america ought to be proud of its founding principles when that leaves okay when when that leaves the white house that is going to be a tragedy for the country. Not trump leaving the white house personally right. Trump is just a person but what replaces trump the incoming biden administration has already pledged itself to the vision of the sixty-nine project which is in america is a is a horrible place filled with brutality and racism. And that the only way that can be fixed complete reimagining of the relationship between individuals and government. So this is why. If you are a conservative you think of this as a blown opportunity you think of all the great things that happened here in terms of policy and then you think of this is a massive blown opportunity and the tragedy of a blown opportunity sometimes greater than the the tragedy of of inevitable fate. This was not inevitable. There was nothing here those inevitable. It was not inevitable. The donald trump was going to lose to geriatric doted. That was not. That was not a thing okay. Trump's trump's loss is going to have some pretty significant repercussions for the rest of the country and by the way losing those two cents georgia which he contributed to is also going to have some pretty serious repercussions for the united states. When you watch him talk as he did in his farewell address you think. Why couldn't we have had that for four years. Why couldn't we have had that. Because if you've done that for four years then he would've done it for eight. 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The basic idea of the democratic party and the media is that america an awful place talented on awful values yesterday. The white house had put out the seventeen seventy six report. I talked about it briefly on the show. If the seventeen seventy six report was meant as rebuttal to the sixteen nineteen project. Cnn reported not an opinion piece reported that it was racist. They said that the seventeen seventy six report which basically just said the declaration is good. The constitution is good and identity. Politics is bad was actually racist. So that is what is incoming here. Hey trumpet farewell. Address expresses the belief. That i think the vast majority of the american public when he says no america is a wonderful place. A here is trump talking about. Our values is no nation. Can thrive if you lose faith in your own values. No nation can long thrive that loses faith in its own values history and heroes for these are the very sources of our unity and our vitality what has always allowed america to prevail and triumph over. The great challenges of the past has been an unyielding and unashamed conviction in the nobility of our country and it's unique purpose in history. We must never lose this conviction. Never forsake our belief in america. Okay but unfortunately. Many people have lost their belief in america by the way some of that applies on the right as well as left. And if you stormed the capitol building because you believe that america is so much on the brink that there is no future for the country unless you overthrow the democratic process. You've lost your faith in america. Okay so if you wanna believe in america then you actually have to believe in its founding values and that includes respect for its institutions as well as a belief in the founding values of liberty that are encoded in the declaration of independence and the constitution of the united states and then trump continued along these lines. He talked about in a shared national identity. Which of course is completely contrary to the democratic agenda which is to divvy everybody up by race sex sexual orientation gender identity and then to treat them as separate members of groups and then to redistribute the benefits of american society by group right here is trump cutting against that the key to national great dislike and sustaining and instilling our shared national identity that means focusing on what we have in common the heritage that we all share at the center of this heritage is also a robust belief in free expression free speech and open debate only if we forget who we are and how we got here. Could we ever allow political censorship and blacklisting to take place in america. It's not even thinkable shutting down free and open. Debate violates our core values and most enduring traditions gate. now that is the next frontier of the battle. Head is very obvious that the left the democratic party. They are insistent. That i first be curbed. This is the message from the media and the aftermath of the capital. Riots is that your first amendment right. Have to be stopped. Social media has to be used as a private entity and abused as a private entity in order to stop you from exercising their first amendment rights. In fact you may have to rethink very concept of free speech. The united states said cnn yesterday. His so trump is not wrong about all of this. The fact that that the fomenting of untruths about the election help to create the climate for the capital riots had is going to have unforeseen effects that are just grave for the future of american liberty for sure and so trump concludes on very dissonant. Note right because it is indeed for conservatives a very pessimistic time if you're if you're a conservative it is hard not to be disheartened today. Not because trump particularly leaving the white house although obviously if you see him as a board against the encroachments of left that's a problem but mainly because they look to the future and they see democratic wins on the horizon. They see the renewal of the democratic cultural to nami against them. That happened during the obama years except redoubled in strength and power. They see all the institutions of the united states run by members of the hardcore left or pliable corporate executives were willing to do their bidding. That is what they see so in trump says when he concludes that he leaves joyful and optimistic lot of conservatives are shaking their heads are going on. I'm not. I'm not sure why should be joyful and optimistic. I'm not seeing exactly what the future holds. That is good here. Okay and you know what. Hold that feeling if you're a conservative. Hold that feeling and understand that feeling it is not unjustified but that is why the battle the ideological battle philosophical battle is not over. It really is just beginning because the the very notion that one man in the white house or even a party in congress is going to hold back the cultural tied when conservatives have abandoned that or that if you just voted i into power that he's gonna protect all of your interest. It's an anti-american idea. Okay and it's it's spread throughout all sides of the american political debate. Or is this idea that if my man is in the white house. And everything is fine in america's protected no you know. Protect your rights. You know protect your rights. You your family your local community the thing that protects all of america is the social fabric that we build between each other and insistence not only our own rights but the rights of others so other institutions are going to have to be built in the social sphere because we are looking down the barrel of social authoritarianism not just coming from the biden administration but from all again of their institutional allies every from the university to the media to hollywood to social media all aspects of the american culture. All all those guns have now been trained on conservatives and we can see it coming so when trump says that he's joyful optimistic leaving the it. It sounds dissonant towns and it sounds like it. Sounds like a seven an octave is is is in music and octave is non distant. The seventh Is that is that weird. Feeling that you get when somebody who's playing in a and and and an almost an octave up. they're playing a note that is one below the octave right. it's it it sounds terrible is actually called the devil in music quick music theory lesson therefore you but it sounds dissonant. It doesn't sound correct. So here's trump. Talking about joyce leaves the oval office in service across land shaking their heads. I go from this majestic place with a loyal and joyful heart and optimistic spirit and a supreme confidence that for our country and our children. The best is yet to come. Thank you and farewell. God bless you. God bless the united states of america. Yeah well on his way out the door. President trump issued a bunch of pardons. Some of them are just unjustifiable. I mean frankly on just fell he. He pardoned steve bannon in the final hours of his presidency. Okay whatever you think of steve bannon and frankly. I think that steve bannon is wet. Bag of garbage lit aflame years ago. He's one of the worst people. I personally know steve bannon. The man was being tried for scanning trump's supporters. That's what he was being tried for. He's being tried for setting up a private funding Private funding effort to quote unquote build the wall and then he allegedly was taking that money in lining his own pockets and that of his cronies again trump on the way out the door. That's that's an ugly ugly thing to do. Okay well the big story is not what does as he leaves. The big story is what comes next. Because how are we going to fight back against all this. Well the first thing. Obviously that we have to fight is the overwhelming power of the media. So trump for four long years is battling with the media and it was the area of his administration that was the most unlike other administrations. It was also the area a lot of conservatives resonated most too because it's perfectly obvious. The media are just a propaganda arm for the democratic party and they are back in business baby for them. It was the. I mean you can see them. They're tweeting each other. As though they're graduating high school they're tweeting each other's that they're sending each other's yearbooks thank god we made guys it was so hard is the obnoxious seventeen year olds so hard we had to take. We had to take like precalculus together. Man remember that time when we had to when we had to do a test. That's the media are tweeting each other except there padding their themselves on the back further under fire and then they're like okay. Well i guess we can go back to sleep. It's it's exciting stuff. I mean really exciting stuff. The establishment media massage parlor and listening outlet is back in session so jim acosta who is not a reporter. He's an activist. Who made a name off the fact that he yelled at trump. A lot in the white house press room. He tweeted out just a couple of guys covering the white house. On the last day of the trump administration think will finally have time for that during now. Peter alexander guys were graduating high school. Hope you had a good one. I mean that really is what this is and then like circles. his picture. Ten times raised a little a little pink heart above his picture too. I love you. i'll see you later in the. You never talk to him again right. That's the that is the. That is the jim acosta journalism that we have become accustomed to and the amount of just sycophantic worship that is now in play for biden. It's astonishing okay. So i sorta get it with obama. I do like obama was the first black. President of the united states is a historic moment. There was this idea that we're all gonna move beyond the greatest conflict american history the racial conflict that has riven american history. We were going to finally come together as one because we had the first black president and the media will just like you know what we're not doing journalism for the next eight years guys. Let's party and go on vacation. We are just going to ignore everything that is happening because this guy is so historic okay. This time the person that they have decided to worship fully praise the person for whom they are. Jeffrey toobin is a seventy eight year. Old senile old corrupt politician from delaware. That is the person for whom they are doing. This radio we can dispense with the myth that the media were only doing it for obama. They will do it for any democrat. Any democrat who takes office and his powerful is now considered worthy of the of the same treatment. The new england patriots owner received at the flower garden a massage parlor from the media the media the honest to god. There's such horse. I mean it's just it's unbelievable so i'm gonna show you the whorish -ness of the media because here's the thing if you are on the left and really happy today totally understandable. You're on the left if you proclaim that you're an objective generalist that you are just a massage parlor and in fact you're perform prostitution out of the box a little bit different. Hey i'm conservative. That means that. I got to be upset when a democrat takes office and i will be happy. Republican takes office. And i tried to be above simple. Republican democrat conservative principle right. I'm pretty obvious about what i do. I'm pretty obvious about who. I am but seeing jim acosta treating this thing like well guys. We finally did it. Yeah i know you finally. did it. glad to see that you've finally accomplished what you'd sought all along which was to make sure that the democrats elected in the next election that he's okay so i'm going to show you the media shift because the media flipped boom they went from the country is aflame. All will die fire. I'm here for your like putting a holocaust. Cloak from princess bride getting rolled for like andre the giant warning. Everybody that we're all gonna die right. And then they flipped on a dime and suddenly is my little ponies. Suddenly is rainbow sparkle. My daughter watches my little ponies. And it's and it's it's apple jack. Running through the meadows the flip in time is astonishing. End it is perfectly clarifying as far as who these people are and the answer is they are just activist. They are just activists. And here's the thing if you want to be an activist. Bean activist want to be a journalist and pretend to be objective. 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I'm just gonna read you a series of headlines these headlines Have been threaded over twitter by david harsanyi who writes for national review and new york post. It is these are pretty amazing here. We go ready this one. I got love this one all the times. Joe biden's love for ice cream melted our hearts. How about this one from cnn. Politics joe biden and kamala harris. Drop a playlist for your inauguration. Watch party and then there was that vogue cover members vo cover kamala harris. And there's an entire debate in the media over whether it was too disrespectful of carmel harris. I remember those sorts of debates over donald trump worthy We're the covers of donald trump as like a pin cushion. Where those respectful. But we get comal harris in this kind of weird pose standing in front of a pink curtain worrying her converse and this is considered disrespectful even though it literally says on the cover of vogue by the people for the people. The united states of fashion madam vice president kamala harris and the new america journalists being up the wazoo. Then we had of course jane pauley members sitting down with kamala harris and And looking all weird because she had to mirror the awkward pathological laughter that kamala harris spews from her face every time she She says something. We're hit the washington post headline today. Most people know her as jill biden but to some she is dr be the compassionate and challenging educator. Who went the extra mile. Incredible by the way. Stephen colbert yet last night. Cutting entire music video about how. Melania trump is the worst person in the world. Shouldn't do anything chooses there for four years. But she's the michelle obama the greatest hillary mc greatest malania just horrifying four or five glenn kessler of the washington post quote. Get ready for reality. Grounded white house. Press briefings yes yes. I remember reality. Grounded white house. Press briefings where. Jay carney and jen psaki. Just lied consistently to robert gibbs. They just lied over and over and over to you. But you guys didn't care because you're too busy performing unspeakable acts upon the administration. Also this is one of my favorites lauren. Wolfe is an editor at the new york times. She deleted this sweet okay. She lied to the sweet because it was even to awkward for her. She tweeted out a picture of of president-elect biden arriving joint base andrews and then above it she wrote biden landing joyce a joint base andrews now. I have chills. Wow i'll have what she's having exciting stuff. The washington post in fashion. Joe biden carmel. Harris display their common ground amazing journalists in chicago punk apax. Let the healing begin. We have needed. This needed a senile old man running the government and encroaching upon our fundamental right. We needed it it. Just st- solid stuff. James holman analyst. He's the healer in chief the healer and chief. That's his job don't understand. He's like a shamanistic healer. Who can heal them. He lays on hands and america is healed the very moment that joe biden takes office all of our all of our wounds are bound. All of the negativity and toxicity of our politics is ended. Also we're gonna need some of your first amendment this a little bit like just just the part where you say. You don't agree. What need that part over. Politico biden is about to give the most important inaugural speech since lincoln. Is he though since lincoln here. Will i hope that he can stumble hoping you stumble his way through without trump For sure that'll be. That'll be exciting. The flip in time is pretty amazing. David chalian over at cnn. I think this may be the best club. So this is cnn last night and the guy can't control himself he just cannot control himself so they show this onscreen some video from the national mall. Okay and it shows the from the washington mall and it shows the the. They've planted several hundred thousand flags out there to signify the deaths from covid. Because obviously the can't have lots of people on the mall right now for both safety reasons and also because we are in the middle of a pandemic still and they they. They're shining these bright lights up into the sky and it's very dramatic right. It's very dramatic. Footage and david chalian cannot help himself. He can't help himself. He goes to work and here. He is working both himself. And the biden administration. Those lights that are that are just shooting out from the lincoln memorial along the reflecting pool. I look it's almost extensions of joe biden's arms embracing america was a moment where the new president came to town and sort of convened the country in this moment of remembrance out stretching his arms and contrast that with that video you just saw of a disgraced president on his way out at his lowest point in his presidency. Wow i mean it's like he's like he's giving us a big hug and awkwardly stroking are sniffing us. It's just like that like you think lights shooting out was kneeling shooting out in this particular clip. Amazing amazing stuff. David chill like arms embrace his. I don't want the government embracing me. Okay the government should stay far away from me so last night i had dinner with some folks and and a friend was talking about. He likes the pomp and circumstance of inaugurations. No matter who's being inaugurated. And i i said i agree that the exiting president should go to the inauguration. Okay trump should go to biden's inauguration. Obama did it. for trump. didn't matter they hated each other. That is a thing that should happen because it does signify the peaceful transfer of power is wrong for trump. Not to do that however i generally hate pomp and circumstance with regard to the presidency despise it i despise him because it is monarch and it is ridiculous. I hit it with regard to the state of the union. I've been perfectly consistent on this for years and years and years. I think that the president is basically a plumber. I think they should men in the back of a car and then he should go. Do some plumbing right. I don't think he's important person. I don't think that the presidency of the united states should be treated as though he's an emperor a god emperor on earth embracing us with his arms. That sort of ideologist crap is bad for the country but the media love it. They are into it and again. They can't help themselves today. A honestly what what's most conservatives is not even biden taking office. It's the fact that we are now. Guaranteed for years of gas lighting or the objective journalists decide. The journalism in consists mostly of performing favors of an unspeakable type on the biden administration. And and then declaring themselves objective in all of their facets after four years reporting every sniff of a rumor unsourced or source inside the trump administration. We'll go back to the good old days of talking about how wonderful barack obama's fashion sense is in how he played in the nba. Or something. right it'll be really really exciting stuff can get more of the media's worship of biden and then we'll get to what exactly biden is planning because it's not good for the country guys and good again. I'm praying for the incoming administration. Just as i prayed for the trump administration we literally do that every sabbath in my senate god. That doesn't mean i expected. He's going to do good things. In fact i expect he's going to do things that are deeply damaging to core american liberties. It's more of this in just one second. I let us talk about the time piece that you wear so. Perhaps you're counting the hours of this administration. Perhaps you need a watch to help. 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You get twenty five percents off at daily wire dot com to to become a member when you use promo code r h f for run height. Go watch the movie today. Get a membership in order to do so. Daily wire dot com. You're listening to the largest fastest growing conservative podcast and radio show in the nation. Now we're gonna get the god-like worship of joe biden again a senile daughter'd who can barely hold it together. They're gonna treat him the exact same way. They treated obama. Which explains that it really was never about. Obama is just about the media. All democratic voters almost universally democratic voters. Who not only hate. Trump republicans were generally the washington post editorial board. Democracy dies darkness literally. Their words in their first words in their auditorium. Today is well. we made it. You made it. Was there any threat to shut down the washington post. You made it home. God by the skin of our teeth we made it some one thousand four hundred sixty days. After donald trump took office as president. He must leave it. Having been defeated for reelection. Last november third by joseph r biden will be sworn in as the forty sixth president at noon on wednesday. This is momentous occasion. Oh my gosh okay. So that is the washington post journalists. Ming all over the place but also it was very important We now have a report from the new york times this breaking his beeper b bbb b. Here's the breaking news. The breaking news is that. Joe and jill biden. Have morning negotiations over. Who rides the peleton bike. I whole we unreal. They've broken the story. Amazing how is that possible. According to sheryl gay stolberg reporting for your time's biden has palestine bike that raises issues at the white house. it doesn't exactly comport with his regular joe from scranton persona but beyond the politics of it. The bike could present cyber security risks. Wow wow and again. He joe biden. They have to negotiate this shows. He's a real diplomat radius to negotiate with his wife over the peleton by the way. If trump ever bought milania hells hunter would be what a sexist for buying his wife. Appellate peleton right. That's the way that works. Also if that's not enough for you. The style. section of the washington post has a fascinating article on doug emhoff's comma harrison's husband wow can't wait to hear about doug emhoff's i hadn't heard of until five seconds ago a truly important figure in american politics. He's never been elected to anything and happens to be married. Tacoma harris i remember when we had all of those those absolutely sycophantic pieces about mike. Pence's wife remember that. Yeah no you. Don't oh yeah the try. Because they didn't exist so all this is very very exciting stuff. Egg loud from msnbc puts the final cap. On this he compares. Joe biden to god i mean he literally paraphrase the psalms from the bible to describe. Joseph r biden a corrupt old politician. Who has been in politics since he was twenty nine years old at the federal level. Here's eddie cloud literally. Comparing joe biden of all human beings to god just listening to the words in the song and seeing the lights. President elect joe biden and vice. President harris pulled the grief and regret out of the privacy of our hearts if just for a moment so that we all share it. Oh what i what a beautiful steps i'm going to. I'm reminded of the solemness. you know. He heals the broken hearted in binds up their wounds. My hey so Four years of this guy's four years this. Why should come subscribe at daily wire. Because at least we're going to cover at like there'll be things happening and we will cover them daily wire but you can guarantee that in the mainstream establishment media basically is just going to be why republicans keep pouncing. Why did he key pouncing pounds pounds pounds every time by something truly crappy. It'll be well look at those republicans pouncing and spoil unity. There was unity guys and the unity meant. Shut the hell up. He's speaking of which i mean. They're pretty clear about it. So eddie cloud right. He wants to buy up. The nation's wounds right that same guy who is a second ago talking about binding the nation's wounds and healing the rift and then he's like you know what their four hundred thousand dead people because of the trump supporters. A thing he actually said on. Msnbc same day yesterday. yes. I trust are members of the media to to truly take seriously the concerns of all americans. They just want to bind up our wounds by calling you. A person responsible for hundreds of thousands of dots here is here is any cloud. It's easy for us to place all the blame on donald trump. He makes it easy for us. You know he does. But there were seventy five seventy four plus million people who voted for him selfishness greed. They run rampant across the land. That sounds like some some real wound binding right there right there. Yeah that's that's that's probably this almost was talking about it was it is binding up the nation's wounds by calling all the people who disagree with you Selfish and greedy and responsible understanding saying you have to see the picture which is a picture of all of these flags on the mall that are supposed to represent the four hundred thousand cova deaths. So you're responsible for that if you voted for trump exciting exciting stuff. Also it'll be wonderful to hear the history of this period written by political. Griffin's like steve schmidt and the guy who used to be part of the mccain campaign and then decided that he'd be part of the lincoln project he's going right to history says he says on msnbc the winners right history and marital losers the shame of the people around trump who have participated in the shaping of the great american catas- over the last four years. We'll be held to account will be held to account. I judge men of history by the judge in judgment and eastern america ends. They'll be held to account. By or america's they look for jobs by corporate america as they seek donations. They will not right here history. We will write their history and their shame will last forever. they're shameless. Frat says steve schmidt by the way just a quick note. One of the co founders of the lincoln project. I just dropped out because it turns out that he was a deeming young men for sexual purposes. So yeah there but is gonna last forever everybody everybody who supported to any element of the trump agenda. The shame will last forever. Okay so this brings us to what they will be covering for isn't exciting. So what exactly will they be covering for your entire establishment media who've decided that the age of light has reached us. Well they'd be covering for a bunch of truly unbelievably bad policy. That is what they will be covering for any begins today. Are you excited there. We go because they got rid of the bad orange man who's really bad and orange and also even if he is really bad and authoritarian in his sort of intent. We got rid of all of the conservative policy. So now we can finally untrammelled move forward toward a more racially polarized an more woke society that dispenses with these. Little things like your rights. Right we can move toward that at full speed ahead. It is so exciting. It is so exciting. According to examine over at axios led by incoming treasury secretary janet yellen the economic policy team has signaled it will be the first administration ever to construct economic policy around issues like race gender equality and climate change rather than traditional indicators like gross domestic product or deficit ratios amazing. I'm so excited about this guy's the treasury department. The economy of the united states will not be constructed around what provides the most prosperity the most people instead it will be. It will be designed around notions. That america is hysterically racist and unjust. And we can just redistribute and regulate the economy so as to achieve equal outcome without any worry about what the inputs to the economy are. Isn't that super exciting. We invite each other by race and then by sax sexual and everything and then it can reorient the entire economic policy of the united states in order to meet free quotas with regard to each one of those groups all we have to do is violate some of your economic and free association liberty rights. That's all you have to score. That's all we have to do. And the media's therefore it man are so excited about all of this super exciting stuff that is according to axios today. Also biden has now announced the seventeen executive actions. he's gonna sign this afternoon in the oval office yay so what are some of these magical magical things that he is going to be doing. So number one. He's gonna literally number one he's gonna stop. The border wall construction. Okay first of all that was like top like that's purely symbolic of course right because the reality is having a border wall kind of a good thing but he's like you stop that right now we have spent trillions of dollars on redistributive purposes. Can't be spending money on like a wall to stop people from coming across the border illegally. Stop that right now. Now that had not been trump's top priority. Would he be doing that. Of course not. He's going to quote end. The muslim travel ban. There is no muslim travel ban. It does not exist. There's a travel ban against a variety of countries which includes some muslim countries and some non muslim countries. Okay he's going to rejoin the paris. Climate agreement woohoo that paris climate agreement which achieves nothing zero things does achieve. It is a completely symbolic act. That is designed in order to cudgel political opponents into silence. That is what the paris climate accord does the vast majority of countries that have signed on the paris. Climate accord are not even attempting to meet their quotas. The united states has no plan in order to achieve. What joe biden wants it to achieve an even if the united states were to meet its quotas. Under the paris climate accord's it would not lower the global temperature over the course of the next century. More than a minute degree. These are all well established realities. What joining the paris climate accord's good stuff guys. Also we're going to end the houston. Xl pipeline and revoke oil and gas development and national wildlife monument. So that's good news we're gonna make ourselves more dependence on foreign oil again. So that's that's excellent. Also we're gonna count you non-citizens in the us census his a. One of the things that trump had pushed was we're not gonna count illegal immigrants in the us census because we use the us census for apportionment purposes and we should not apportion congressional seats based on how many people who literally should not be in the country are in particular areas and buy up. You know what i know. All those people live and they tend to live in blue areas and we need more. Congressional seats appointed a portion for those particular areas or rejoining the. Who that's being so we left the who because the who is a crap sandwich of an organization. That basically is a propaganda outlet for the chinese. But we're rejoining it because trump left it that's literally the only reason rejoin it also. He's starting to one hundred days masking challenge. Do we get those physical fitness badges like. I remember when i was in elementary school. And if you basically didn't kill over in fourth grade then. They gave you like a presidential physical fitness award. It was super exciting and went directly in the garbage. Because i meant nothing. So we're gonna have the one hundred day masking challenge because you know what people aren't asking except for you know the eighty plus percentage of people who say they're masking in the united states so yep That'll be good. He's going to push pause on student. Loan payments until september thirtieth his going to defend the dreamers program for undocumented young americans. He's going to continue to do the unconstitutional thing of just declining to prosecute people as he ought under the law. He's going to change at trump's arrest priorities for immigration and customs enforcement. He is going to restructure. The federal government coordination's the covid nineteen pandemic. But just explain how and here we go. This is the best part you ready. Actions to advance racial equity through the federal government. So welcome back to critical race theory gang because remember trump said no critical race theory in the federal government. We're not gonna do any of those things and by. We're putting all that back in so you get to learn about how whiteness dominates america's systems of power and how you are responsible you are white person and it doesn't matter if you're black person who agreed in any element with trump. This means that you're also white. You're multi racial white person. Very exciting stuff. He's going to revoke. Trump's corn harmful seventeen seventy six commission. So instead he's just gonna reflect these sixteen nineteen bullcrap promoted by the new york times. America's evil america's terrible all. This is in the healing guys. Do you feel the healing. Can you feel the warmth. Can you feel it so much healing happening. Right now. he's going to strengthen workplace discrimination protections based on sexual orientation and gender identity which effectively means that the federal government is now going to be telling you that if you are a waiter at a if you are a waitress at and you decide that you're man tomorrow you should remain a waitress at the hooters. So that's that's exciting stuff also when we are going to be freezing all last minute. Trump administration and regulatory actions and they're gonna formulate executive branch ethics doctrines because that's always Usually went when members of the government including the trump administration formulate ethics doctrines. They then follow through with done by completely ignoring them. So all of this is exciting stuff among the people who biden will be appointing also some of the best and the brightest so for example. Joe biden has now selected as assistant health secretary. Rachel levine the only important thing about this human beings that this person is transgender. That's according to the washington post headline. This is true. Here's the washington post headline now. You might think to yourself as assistant health secretary. Wouldn't you want like the accomplishment in the title like what this person due to become assistant health secretary. Here's the title biden. Select transgender dr. Rachel levine as assistant health secretary. Well i mean. I know that when i go to the doctor. The first thing i need is a person who believes that. Remember the wrong sex. That's that's the first thing i look for. Rachel levine by the way is a human being shipped. Covert positive patients back into nursing. Homes as the secretary of health and human services in pennsylvania and then took this person's mother out of the nursing homes in that that i would not be infected die so that might be like the headline right and if the media were doing their job that would be like the top of the story right. You know that if trump appointed this person that would be the top of the story but because this person checks the intersectional box well magic. So here's the case on rachel levine. Cons killed a bunch of people in nursing homes by shipping covert positive patients back into the nursing homes. Pros is a man who believes. He is a woman strong case being made here huge huge stuff. So listen i understand all the people who are ready for the circus to end. I understand all the people like you know what this last four years was crazy and wild feels like a fever. I get it just understand that all of your and healing and unity in reality. It comes along with a bunch of really really bad policy. 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Episode 301: Respect the Classics, Man!

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Episode 301: Respect the Classics, Man!

"The new york times purges. Its own again. Impeachment begins and are the classics racist will discuss all this more on. This addition of the editors on which larry joining his always by the right honorable charles. Cw cook and the siege of authenticity. Woods jimgeraghty embiid you or turn soon. You're listening to a national review. Podcast sponsors this week. Our bollandbranch sheets and babble. More about them in due course if you listen to podcast on national review dot com clean directly on the corner. We're delighted to have you. It'd be easier for you and better for us if you made us part of your feet at industry services there from spotify to itunes like what you hear. Please consider giving us a glowing star review on itunes. If you don't like what you hear here please forget. I said anything. So charlie cook. You wrote compellingly on this new york times episode. Let me start with you. A truly extraordinary one. Donald mcneil has been at the paper. What forty six years or something kind of old school curmudgeonly. Journalists makes the mistake of going to a new york times sponsored trip with students always mistake to peru and twenty nine teen uses the n. Word in the course of a conversation about whether a twelve year old should have been punished for using the n word on a video their complaints about this. He's reprimanded by the times Sometime later then this emerges in a daily beast report at first time stands behind him and says the context matters which of course it does and that it quickly shifts field and says no no no any use of the n. Word is strictly for boating and donald mcneil has to leave in upon leaving. Make neil issues and embarrassingly groveling apology. What do you make where. He said he made a mistake. He didn't he didn't make a mistake. The mistake he made was acquiescing to this absurdity. Especially after so long he should at least have gone down fighting. He didn't andrew sullivan. Said it reminded him of confessions extracted by the kamerhe rouge but at least it was torture involved that this was baffling. I think given the ridiculousness of the charge. There is absolutely nothing wrong with discussing. Whether or not a word was used defensively and there is nothing wrong with using that would while discussing it is of course a matter of taste. I don't use the would myself. I find it grotesque in my mouth but if we ought to demand that that all listeners hair all words equally we will have destroyed our language and made ourselves more stupid. The use of that would in say huckleberry finn is of course different to the use of that word in the jim crow south as a means by which to wound or diminish. The question is this word. Used appropriately on ought is not in and of itself offensive mcneil should have stood up for himself and perhaps more important given the his age and seniority he should have stood up for the next person who will be on the end of this silliness instead. He allowed the vortex of liberalism to continue. Now i think the times has set out a standard here that it is guaranteed to violate within moments. The argument the times advanced is that it has a zero tolerance approach to the use of racist language in other words. If you say somebody you dislike is an n. Word that is materially different to the times. Then if you say discuss the use of the word in rap music or in historical american racism and yet times writers used the word when discussing it. We know this jamal. Buoy uses it on twitter when discussing nicole. Hannah jones uses it on twitter while discussing this and well. They might often when people talk about this word then met with to accusations one. Oh you just really want to say it actually. I don't i never say it. I've written about this for an hour when defending barack obama of all people who was criticized for using it while discussing racism. I don't want to say. I don't say it. I've never said it. I grew up in a mixed-race family. I had family members from malawi. I don't like it. i don't want to say it and the other one is that one is incapable of distinguishing between its uses. But that's the times not the critics. I don't think there is anything wrong. What so ever with say jamal. Buoy all nicole hannah jones using this what. I don't think there's anything wrong with discussing it. But i do think there's a great deal wrong if they using it while discussing it in public and another employee loses his job for doing so when the times has set out at zero tolerance standard. There's no argument that can be made for that because all of the arguments that might be advanced rely upon context. You could say well. It's different when he says it then when an african-american says it okay. Maybe but that's an argument. Reliant upon context if there is no context allowed if there is no import whatsoever to the circumstances then it has to be applied consistently. And i think yet again. What we're seeing here is calvin bill. Yes jim clearly. What happened is initially the time. Set out a reasonable standard here. Context matters as as of course it should and then a hundred hundred and fifty whatever. It is employees at the time. Say no we're going to not going to stand for that and then the institution shifts so it's once again getting bullied by its woke most members. Yes a rich. And i find yourself. We've seen we've gone through this a bunch of time. We've seen this with In kevin williamson when he was over at the atlantic for about ten minutes And i remember as that was happening. Wondering what the point of being the editor. The person in charge of a magazine. If you're the right person to ask about this rich you're the editor magazine What's the point of. Bnr's might not be in charge of it. But i do my title's editor what the dark knight rises. Do you feel in georgia. So like what would happen if jeffrey goldberg. That time had heard the complaints about kevin williamson from atlantic staffers. And say well. I hear what you're saying. But no i'm not firing him. You're just gonna have to learn to live with that. You're just gonna have to learn to live with us nuke new co worker. I heard your your complaints. I've heard your objections. And i am rejecting them. Go work with this guy and you know if you really don't like it there's the door you know what would have happened if any institution when the woke mob when the bullies come along. Look you're in charge of the institutions. I thought they were. What have you do that. James bennett during the tom. Cotton op ed the objections. To barry weiss at what would happen if any person is of his. When i said no i worked hard to get to this place where i have final authority about who works here. I hear your objection. We've had our with don mcneill. Think actually if you again if you can get rid of somebody. For using this word there was a A district of columbia employees who resigned causes back probably in the two thousands he used the term miserly or a synonym for miserly. That sounds like the n. Word but didn't use the n. Word for that. Somebody misheard him and decided he'd used the n. Word and you know raised a stink and the guy resigned. Because he didn't what would happen if somebody said no. Your lack of familiarity with the vocabulary is not my problem. It's up to you to get to know this kind of stuff and it's just baffling we keep seeing people in charge knuckle under again and again and it's like why. Why would you want to be in charge of an institution like the new york times. If you can't look at the body of work of a guy like don mcneill it's now. This guy has a really good science reporter. I don't know if you noticed as a pandemic going on kind of a big science story we don't wanna kick good science writers out the door over somebody throwing a stink over a word they used on a trip year ago right now if don mcneil's a real threat to if he's harassing employees is a different story if he's tossing the n. Word around all around the office. That's a different story. It's working to his science beat coverage okay. Then we've got a problem but it's none of those things so what would happen if any of the souls burgers or somebody said no. We're not you're all of you. One hundred hundred fifty new york times employees. There is the door journalism. Jobs are not growing on trees. These days you work at the new york times it is a big deal my understanding. Is that the new york. Times pays better than most other institutions in journalism. You should consider yourself lucky to be here. And while we always welcome all kinds of discussion about what can make us the best newspaper. We can be kicking out one of our best science reporters over word that he used to years ago in context is not one of those ways. I just love to see it rich and for some reason. I never see any nobody. Everybody seems to knuckle under his afraid of these guys. Yeah he's going to continue until somebody does stand up. There's a university president somewhere every now and then who'll say a version of that but the end of the day. the problem. jim is that they lacked the authority to do it. They they lack. They themselves believe. They lack the moral authority to stand up to people on their left. And we we talked about this before. Talked about a lot in the wake of the george floyd killing in the in the subsequent riots and the eruption of little liberalism at that time. Which is these people who are used to the idea that people in the right there a liberal dora -tarian and they define themselves into opposition to that but charlie when they're asked to do that to people on their left they just can't they can't do it. They can't bring themselves to do it now. What they do is they end up flattening distinctions and in my view insulting the very people they're supposed to be protecting. It is of course sometimes true that they use of racist language could violate or undermine a company's values and make it stuff phil undervalued or hurt. We had learned that mcneill had been running around the office. Berating dark skinned skoll staff with epithets schools. He'd have to go. And if you read the letter from good old. Joe sent to new york times employees. That's what you would assume had happened. But of course it didn't the juxtaposition between the description given in the preface and the note from donald. Mcneil stock you. You soon realize that. The words used in the preface of being twisted. They're being abused and they're being abused by people who astronomy water points out seem actually to have a really low opinion of the intellectual ability and moral strength of african americans who who see them as children in need of protection who see them too homogeneous bloc. Who all here words in exactly the same way irrespective of the context and can't function having done. So i think it was in a publication. I think he has his own blog. John water wrote really interesting. Post about this saying you know we. He's block. We are capable of processing context and circumstance and nuance. You know. we don't all here words in the same way we're not sent running for the corners by sounds and yet you would think that he would be if you if you took dean joe at face value which we shouldn't have but again the the reason that this was as bad as it was was unfortunately because mcneil didn't in any way stand up for himself what he did was ratify. These finishes ideas. He accepted them at face. Value and those who engendered. This response are getting into a habit of doing so. And every time the target is cowed and indulges it. They little bit stronger a little bit more used to it. The idea has become more mainstream. And widen the net gym. So i thought one explanation possibly for where this went down was that mcneil wasn't being honest about the context of use of the word in this conversation. But that's not true. Air went the new york post story. The washington post has done some reporting on this and talk students who confirm mcneil's account but a went goes into other things that the students found quote unquote troubling in. One of them is in a in a conversation. About incarceration rates of african americans. Mcneil said that well. You know if you commit crimes. You're you're going to go to jail and this is just a typical college. Campus sort of thing went reports said that students on the trip found this quote unquote triggering. The entire concept of triggering really needs to be reevaluated. If i understand it correctly the very first way you'd get this. Context is if a particular body of work whether it was you know Artwork or film or passages in a book or something involved. Something really graphic some Depiction of sexual violence something. That was really war. crimes genocide. Something that'd be genuinely indisputably upsetting that. You wanted to give people a warning of something. Very graphic is coming ahead. Be ready for it so that you're not just reading through your work. You come across. Something and god forbid you've been through some sort of horrible experience. You start having traumatic flashbacks or something like that and it was a very well intended sort of thing where like you're not just spring something traumatic on someone and somehow got extended to any contrary opinion. Anything that i don't inhale already agree with is not merely something that bothers me or i object to or maybe even angers me but now now traumatize me i am now having a physiological reaction to it. You know we we. We mock this on twitter. When somebody says i'm so mad i'm shaking over the latest mundane. Outraged your you know being told you if you can't do do the time don't do the crime or if you commit crimes you gonna go to jail. That really shouldn't trigger you. And if a genuinely triggers if you really have some sort of intense physiological response that you cannot control and you become dysfunctional because of hearing something you then you really should see a therapist and that's your problem. It's not the problem with the person who said it. They're not the bad guy in this scenario they're just giving up perfectly reasonable answer to what i assume is a perfectly reasonable question. You cannot decree that all discussion of the criminal justice system and the idea that criminals should be punished under the law of itself is inherently so triggering cannot be discussed in your presence. You that case you can't be around other people and again that's who the problem you have to. At some point you have to stop asking society to change to please your needs. At some point you have to change to function within the rest of society. And i suspect rich a lot of these cases. These people are on some level dysfunctional. If they can't handle hearing something that they don't already agree with. Yeah i mean. It's kind of their their conditioned to to do it now. So charlie exit question to you compared to average of these kind of stupid malicious cancelling. The mcneil episode is not as bad. I kinda run of the mill or worse. Oh it's worse it's worse because this this was utterly innocuous that there's there's not really any perspective from which doesn't seem innocuous one can tell that because the standard that was used as an excuse is not being applied elsewhere. Jim gary is bad round. The nell worse. I wanna pick something kinda in between an escalation. We've seen things similar to this particularly the new york times last couple of months but this really seems like gay ticky tack foul against me making air quotes as i say foul If the editors had said if don mcneil's bosses want to say look you trip with high schoolers or something. Be careful but the language you use. Try not to you know. Try not to say anything. That upsets them. Sometimes people are very touchy about these sort of thing you. There's plenty of of lesser steps that the management could've taken to placate the mom. I think we all suspected he would not have actually been all that placated. That would have been something but this is this is clearly at it. I think in a way the new york times has run out of actual problems within its ranks. Another just looking for problems. People looking for things to get upset about even a comment from a trip with kids. Here's your years earlier. I think it's clearly worse. The innocuous nature of the original so-called offense shifting standard by the new york times the reason why shifted its standard which is just internal pressure and then finally mcneil feel sorry from getting fired. Obviously but mcneil's apology which it is straight out. The cultural revolution in is of a piece that i wrote earlier this week on the website of this kind of similar woke apologies there so Groveling so absolutist in their self condemnation always referred to how much they've learned you know Through the episode an unusually. Thank the people who've gone out of their way to explain how racist and horrible the supposedly defender is. This is just bad all around with that. Let's pause and hear from our first sponsor this week. Boll and branch sheets. And i'm going to Use my moderators prerogative to sit back and enjoy. Charlie cook telling us about bollandbranch sheets because he is a user and a fan of the product. I am a fan of the product. We just put them on a bed. Bollandbranch knows that we live in difficult times and you don't want to cut corners but one of the things you could cut corners on. Is your night's rest which is not a good idea why it is a great thing that bollandbranch his signature sheets. 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That didn't really have anything to do with this issue whatsoever but just had to do about the the horrors of that day that most people across the spectrum acknowledged packed a punch than you had lead manager congressman raskin Providing a an emotional conclusion to their case talking about family members his daughter being at the capitol that day and how frightened they were and just how heart rending. It is to him. This daughter said he doesn't she doesn't want to go to the capital again. The united states capitol. Where where he he goes goes to work as a congressman. Then you had the trump lawyers coming in. And i have to say. I've followed the clips on twitter. I didn't have a chance to watch all of this. But bruce castor is that his name got very very low marks. As far as i can tell was extremely ramle presentation that he'll be fortunate if he's not fired for later tonight. Not because it was rambling and Not cogent but because at one point he said the process at worked and joe biden had been elected. So cissy how it handles that. But then This guy shown. I believe came on next and as as far as i could tell made a better case kind of hitting the david show hitting the points you would make if your argument that the there shouldn't be post presence he trial then. You had a vote which minor standing just looking at twitter. Really quickly here happened while we were already recording when we're or a recording whether the senate has authority and basically the same as a week ago or so whenever that is accepted there was one republican flipped and does think the senate can hold the trial center cassidy from louisiana. What do you make it. Well the first thing is that. This is the beginning of impeachment week or the trial. And i know it's like it's because it's impeachment. It's a big deal at one point. Bruce cassard made the argument that we've you know there was a top until clinton in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight. No one lived through. Impeachment hadn't been one in one hundred some years. Now we most of us have been around for three in just you know and to in the last year which is Indicating that this is no longer this rare effort taken in the most extraordinary circumstances To make up for not picking your item as the editor's pick a few weeks ago rich. I thought your corner post observing that Impeachment is now basically supercenter. And we've crossed that line there. Now interesting your editors picked. Today you know i can make it that one i to not quite good enough rich how badly you want it. If it means that much to your sure sure it's editor spec wows. Affirmative action on the edited the prizes in the mail but not so the house. The house democrats had the easier task today. Of course it's constitutional. The constitution itself doesn't right much one way or the other but the idea that the founders would set up this system and say well. Here's the way the the legislative branch and hold the executive branch accountable. Except unless it's right towards the end of time then the president can pretty much do whatever the heck he wants you know. Look at the idea that they would want to give the legislative branch the authority to bar president from running for office again but they never meant for the legislative branch to to have the authority to bar a Former president from running again. That you know. I'm sorry. None of that makes sense to me But nonetheless they had to make this argument today democrats again have the easier argument for this there. You know it was pretty much clear of the senate was gonna vote to go ahead with this The the trump lawyers had a tougher time. And i was you know. I watched a good chunk of bruce. Castor juniors line of argument. I suppose he was kind of going for folks and conversational and kind of meander like a mississippi river and it just kind of went around and took forever to get to the point. And i don't think it was not great. I don't know if any damage. I don't think this was a. This is a high degree of difficulty. Day you're not going to convince many senators to not believe that this you know there was a constitutional authority to do this Nobody's minds for changed on. How many how. Many minds are changeable in this process The the flip side is that show in. He brought the fire. I mean he. He's fired up and he was pounding the table and he was shouting. And he's you know. And i suspect that's precisely the kind of performance that the president preferred to see. I guess i know it's it. It keeps you awake. It was very saudi. He was very angry and take doubt pounding that table and combative and pledging doomsday and we're on the verge of the civil war if you go ahead with it mobile and i guess that's i don't think any of changed very much and all of this feels like going through the motions. The best argument i heard from the trump lawyers is that we're still trying to decide whether the senate is going to hear from witnesses. This strikes me is ridiculous. Don't show a video because anybody can ended a video. Anyway you want yes. It was a very powerful video put forth by the house impeachment managers but anybody can put the what happened on january sixth dramatic that they didn't really take lawyerly skill to make that point. We know the argument would if you're gonna have the impeachment. We're not operating on a deadline of january twentieth. If you're going to impeach the president have a senatorial have a senate trial bringing as many witnesses you as you possibly can think would be compelling and useful for the case allow the trump team to pull in any witnesses. They won't give everybody plenty of time to cross examining take your time. and yes. I know the biden white house doesn't want this. Well you know what president biden sometimes. What you want has to take a backseat to the other. What we're being told is the most important thing the senate has to do right now. So don't do this halfway if you want to impeach the president and the president if you don't want to do it then fine dismiss this in a twenty four hour period and recognize this that this is a foregone conclusion but right now we're getting this kind of halfway worst of both worlds and i just i feel like we're like we're simul tennessee. Wasting our time and not making the most of an opportunity to really get to the bottom of what the president did on january six twenty twenty one so charlie. Have you been moved at all your your little wishy washy uncharacteristically on the constitutional standing post presidency trial. There's been a lot of argument about this. And i would say probably most high-powered republican lawyers come down the side. Yes you can do this. Latest example chuck cooper had a wall street journal. Op ed. The other day under weather How does this argument sou- which is that. Since you're immediately removed when you're convicted by the senate you can continue on and disqualify a formative former official because if you're convicted you removed and then they vote to disqualify you. So they're just inherently voting to disqualify a former president and that example i had thought that it was somewhat ambiguous but the being ambiguous therefore fell to congress to decide so i would never have come down on the side of those who say that. It is flatly unconstitutional. Right i was convinced in these particulars by the piece by michael mcconnell. Yeah is impeached. It's not a post-presidency impeachment. Because he is impeached during his presidency. And then the constitution says the senate has the sole power to try right that seems to me straightforward irrespective of the context of the broader debate arm with jim in being a little depressed about this. I think that trump committed an impeachable offense and should be convicted. But he's not going to be and so we are watching another impeachment the outcome of which we already know and worse. Perhaps we are watching an impeachment in which nobody seems truly invested. Even though they should be the republican party has made it clear that it is not going to convict donald trump. the american public seems on interested in this. I believe support for it has dropped below fifty percent that's not primer showed a little above fifty. There's there's that one before we went on the podcast last week talking about headed forty seven but they're couple came out after that had have it above fifty not a lot. I think that the highest i've seen is fifty six. It's not a topic of conversation either. They're not talking about it down at the bar but also democrats on invested in it in the way that they might be. It's not just the white house but many in congress and many observers are worried that joe biden is going to blow his opportunity. Either because he's wasting time that would usually be full of activity all because this will annoy republicans so much that they will adopt a defensive posture immediately and we will go back to trench warfare. This is not how this is supposed to be done. And i do. I do think that if we turn impeachment into super sensors you put then we will have damaged our constitutional order by in effect. Removing one of its most important tools. I don't blame nancy pelosi. All the democratic houseful having impeached him. I do primarily blame. Republicans for refusing to go along with it But i am nevertheless almost indifferent to this because we already know how it ends. Yeah so jim. I just think impeachment just nod. Good check on presidents. I think in in a partisan era it just the level of offense and what trump did post-election really bad. He's just just really bad. I think there's a little too much focus on the actual riot itself. Because that's the most lurid episode in the entire post-election chapter but it's really bad but to to get to get a whole get the presence party to move just it needs to be a massive shift in the public opinion of that party and it just. That's really hard to do. So i think it's it's ending up being kind of a supercenter and our colleague. Ramesh the case for michener with that kind of okay. You know. it's it's not as though this is going to be abused the way typically say. It'll be abused ken starr i believe made this case. First impeachment on the senate floor will always. We're going to be removing our presents all the time. No or not is impossible. It's like really really difficult to remove a president instead. This is going to be used to make a black mark on the record of presidents who have abused their office. And just maybe maybe. That's okay see. I really hesitate to disagree with ramesh every time you do like stepping into a bear trap you hope it doesn't you know Snap your leg off but just going to observe that like i feel like if you keep lowering the three the threshold. And here's it's not so much. The lowering of the threshold. And maybe it's just look. Maybe this was baked in the cake. The moment that trump came the republican nominee up against hillary clinton became president that he was going to not just pushed the boundaries of the law. He clearly didn't know what the president's authorities were didn't care with the president's authorities were. He was going to do whatever he wanted to do. And then when he was faced with defeat he was going to pull out every conceivable. Stop to the point of absurdity to almost mentally will himself to victory by walking around in flat out. Denial apparently to this very day denying that he lost the election. I concur what he did was absolutely terrible. And i find with them impeaching him the thursday afterwards i was perfectly fine with doing the express lane version of impeachment and getting him out of there as quickly as fast as humanly possible. Once you don't do once you're past january twentieth got no good reason to rush and you should basically take your time and you know. Take every step. That's necessary. The process all due due diligence all due process to the accused the whole nine yards. Because otherwise you're you know what impeachment should not turn into a metaphor that we have set up the congress to say we're really angry at you because an era of hyper partisanship hyper. Congress has always going to be really angry at the president. This the idea. If you keep lowering the bar of this turns into something where like every time one party holds congress the president of it the other. The other party holds the presidency. Well sooner or later that president going to do something that's going to really take off the opposition party and now the opposition party each time. It gets a little bit easier to say. Oh yeah well we're going to beat you. I mean probably. The most effective argument by trump lawyers today was running the tape on all the times members. The democratic house called for trump's impeachment in some cases before he was inaugurated but certainly after the two thousand eighteen election was near certainty and this probably the fairest argument. I think much more for the ukraine phonecall impeachment than for This one was this idea that democrats are always looking for any excuse to impeach him. They were do from the beginning. It didn't matter he could've walked line. he did not walk the line. he could have done everything right. You did not do everything right but if you had they still would have found some excuse to try to impeach him well in this case trump gave his opponents amunition they would ever need but that doesn't change the fact that impeachment is now turning into a Increased increasingly less and less meaningful way for congressional majority to say mr president were really really pay. Owed about what you did x. Question to you charlie. Cook number of republican votes to convict in the senate fifty five. Tim gary maybe six or seven. You know the retirements of guys like rob portman or shelby. Might you know. They're not basing the voters again. They can say what they really think. But you know. That's i realize that's going on a huge limb six instead of seven six zero five. I'm a five guy Maybe maybe right jim. But i doubt it i think it looking at like a solid five and with that. Which is you know it's five times. The republicans voted to convict the first time around which was the first time ever. A member of the president's own party had voted to convict obviously mitt romney in the crane impeachment. So with that. Let's pause and hear from our second sponsor this week babble good and todd in case you don't speak german. That of course means good day. And you know it used babble. 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Which is interesting would have been used to. The americans have one hundred years ago. Who certainly didn't see them like that. I think this is a real shame. I think it is about as close to the destruction of history as you can get at least without burning down the library of alexandria. We referred to these people constantly for a reason they are instructive. One doesn't need to enjoy reading. Homa doesn't need to like socrates in order to understand that we came in many ways from these cultures from classical antiquity lee kandla and a great deal from the experiences of the greek republic and the experiences of the romans. And we know this because the founders did if you take out classics forget going back two thousand years you can't meaningfully go back two hundred and fifty years. Khan understand who bolus right. You would be confused by the federalist papers. Not just by the pseudonyms but by the contents. You can't understand the debates at the constitutional convention all the debates at the first congress without understanding how the founders saw classical antiquity. I think it would be an example of soaring off one of our legs. I also think you alluded to this in the piece you write about. This is peculiar that. An african american man extremely humble origins is doing that the classics are in some way exclusive given that they want to him and he seems to have found an entire intellectual world a korea it turns out in these texts and if they transformed him and helped him lift himself up from sound like terrible circumstances. Circumstances i've certainly never lived in well. How irrelevant how exclusive can they be. So i i think this would be a profound mistake. and again if we go back to the conversation we were having reactions of the new york. Times a deeply patronizing mistake. One that says in a sense many white supremacists would have said that well. These areas only for white people. Well they're not the not only for white people for everyone because everyone is capable of understanding and enjoying and learning from them and as a result i hope that this active cultural sabotage fails ignominiously yamana. Pay attention to the story. But this classicist princeton. This guy named padilla amazing. Just amazing. personal story comes here as a kid. I think maybe four years old from dominican republic terrible circumstances lives in a homeless shelter. He finds a book a randomly. The shelter or somewhere on ancient greece and rome gets captivated by obviously really talented kid. Someone who was visited the shelter saw him reading a biography of napoleon as as a kid. And he's like this someone's got pay attention to this kid. Someone's gotta help them. Someone's gotta make sure he gets all all. The opportunities possible helps them get a scholarship to an elite. Prep school in manhattan. And then he goes on to get degrees from princeton oxford and stanford and returns to president as a professor as recently as just a couple of years ago was talking about the power of the classics in in this amazing trajectory and his life and announced totally turned around and thing. I don't get in this. This features a lot in in woke culture. Which are obviously talking about earlier is just the drive to for to destruction like why all right so you've decided classics are really bad thing. They have this terrible background and the stain. That can't be removed. go into something else. You know unions. You can do something else in your life. You don't have like agitate for for the discipline to be destroyed and no one possibly two. I mean this would be extreme example and beyond his power but in theory if no one No other core kid. In desperate circumstances discover The these these timeless great works and be inspired by them in and Learn from them and and be elevated by them. Yeah i i did. Read that new york times article rich and i guess my thought. And this kind of gets down to the core of his sudden about-face his sudden sense that he no longer supports the teaching of it and and as opposed. I think it will point. He says this angry exchange a contract dama conference and apparently someone had been pretty darn rude and dismissive and you know obnoxious to him. And he says i wanna see your vision of the classics. You know go up in flames or something like that If you don't want people to know something. Are you really an educator. Don't you become kind of an anti educator at that point you want to you. Don't want to add to human knowledge. Don't want to share human knowledge. You want to subtract human knowledge. We should erase the knowledge from people's minds. And the other thing is kinda comes through in it less this article than other folks who kinda jumped in after the article ran and joined the debate. Was this you know they. Well one of the reasons. We shouldn't be teaching the classics and should be metaphorically knocked off its pedestals because it glamorizes or romanticize or idealize roman society one. I don't think you. I don't know how many people who read about roman society and read the classics as say Lived there and the second thing is i mean. My guess is most american christians. Don't walk around with this romanticized. Notion of rome is the ideal of society. I don't think anybody pontius pilot of there was a guy who was a the kind of governance we need today. I guess we can give them credit for hand washing that's-that's about where you all you could stop there. So it just seems like this like the the extent we see in every knocking down confederate statues and schools out in san francisco. They can't be named. After abraham lincoln. It's like the ultimate judging of the past by the standards of today and deciding that you know because it does not live up to the ideals of today. Well then it must be raced and a lot of us would say like the point of history is not to to reconfirm our belief that while we today the year. Twenty twenty one. We've got it all figured out. We are the font of wisdom. We know everything i remember was having an argument. The guy on twitter who insisted he had nothing to learn from the founding fathers because they would know how to use a smartphone. This idea that there's like in the end. This is a guy who is it. Sounds like a a who studied the classics and then suddenly turned around and decided. No there's nothing we can learn from history and in fact we must not learn history. That somehow it's going to pollute our minds with these kinds of Dangerous and bad and backwards ideas or something. It's a it's a remarkably dark vision of humanity suggests that no no no. This is forbidden knowledge. This is secret less. did come along. And you know warp pure your tiny little mind their ordinary students. So charlie they they really do the critics of the classics. They do the same thing to greek and rome. That the critics of america due to the the the american project. Which is they count. All the extraordinary advances that made these societies exceptional focus on the sins. And then leave aside. The fact that every other society was characterized by descends. More than greece and rome were athens gave us democracy. Imperfect democracy is very limited democracy but they did vote on on things. That's that's the extraordinary thing and the literature was amazing. And there's nothing to match it Anywhere else in the ancient world and shor none of us would wanna live in the roman empire unless may vary at the very top of it brutal society and in many ways but also an inclusive one in various ways the greek policy. Very exclusionary Roman empire ended up. Bring a lot of people and making them citizens and giving us some of the foundations of our our legal system at our political institutions that have blossomed in such a wonderful way and the west and then even though these societies obviously had enormous failings. Also you know in their literature and there were tori they. They had the capacity for self criticism. And that really stands out from the rest of the ancient world and obviously became a continuing thread in western history and is one of our strengths. Agree with everything you just said reminds me of the way that the british empire is often treated invented slavery rather than became the first major world power to abolish it. Whatever other sins it may have committed. I would just add to that. One doesn't have in any way to like or admire rome or greece to profit from studying them in detail on doesn't have to want to live there. One can loathe every single person. Every poem every statesman one can hate the straight roads. It doesn't matter. It is important to know why the roman empire fell. It is important to know what the greeks thought of democracy. It is important to know which leaders succeeded and which failed. It's important to know what their legal system looked like. It's important to know how they treated people. In countries they conquered. It's important to know how they use then navy. It's important to know what their comma system look like. I don't think that the greeks especially with all the romans are comparable to say nazi germany. But i also want to a great deal about nazi germany. D- studying something knowing about something does not mean endorsing it all liking it. The education is not solely a matter of affinity. I want to know what went wrong. In the twentieth century in germany and russia in america and it is an indisputable fact that the greatest powers and the most influential societies in the classical era with greek and roman they had the the influence they also other societies about which we know the most it would be an active bizarre self-destruction to insist that you must feel comfortable or enjoy or of feel affinity with everyone. You study in detail that that would be absolutely preposterous. And i was reading last year about sun zoo. You hear his name all the time military contexts and one of the first things i learned this is how he treated concubines which is not great. Throw the book away and say my goodness could have been my wife or my mother and really to do so it would not just be self destructive. It would also be a form of solipsism and myopia and less. Ah given part of history conforms to what we like or prove off now than it's not useful anymore and oddly enough. That's exactly what you lose. When you learn about the classics you lose that solid system and you lose that my appear and you begin to get a better view of the world and i'm history is actually existed jimgeraghty. Next question to you study the will ultimately indeed be destroyed. Yes or no. There are probably a lot of put argue. It's on life support as is no but it will become ever more obscure And the general public will have ever ever less familiarity with it as it becomes more and more demonized. I don't think he's going anywhere. And about i was about genuinely to say the debate. Does we will end up like rome. I think if it does then we will suffer as a culture. But i don't believe that well. I think there is a good reason why it is so integral within our educational system. And even if there's a fad for a while where it's marginalized people will attend to it. Not least because the the stories many of which have bloody and gory and and a polling on nevertheless compelling and you just can't take too much interesting history out of people's hands without them reading it Despite you yeah. I agree with that. I think it'll be continued to be degraded and marginalized which has happened over time. Victor davis hanson co corrupt. The book who killed homer back in two thousand and one and it's only gotten worse since then but i think these books are too good. These societies are two interesting their influence on our history and institution Are are too great to a is too great to Took Totally ignore so they will not be destroyed. Despite some records coming after them without limit quickly do an n. Are plus plug and our plus digital subscription service at national review dot com your way around the increasingly extensive hardened and annoying metered. 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They've of the past so A lot of lot of fun. Very confusing very weird completely unpredictable. Charlie even playing classic game battleship. I have so the other evening. I decided that i would introduce my four year old to the game so pull myself a glass of wine and put on some music set it up and i taught him and we paid the first game open so that i could make sure he was doing it right and show him how it worked and then once i was satisfied that he grasped the game. We moved to playing properly. So you can't see each other's waters so fast forward half an hour. And i still haven't got a hit not one and frankly it's getting little bit. Implausible my foyer. Than the meantime is blowing up my birds like we're at two nineteen fifty two but i can't get a single hit and statistically it just just felt impossible so it turns out that actually it was because after i missed for the fiftieth consecutive try. I looked at my four year old. Who was looking pensive. And i said you know what are you doing. And he said why. I'm just working out where to move my boats now so you can't hit them turned out the he'd been playing the whole game. Every time i got close he would move it. Put it in a new position and he was. Who's running out of space. So i i loved super bowl. I love preparing for the super bowl. So a little bit like thanksgiving you. Part of the experience is making all the food so even though like no one was coming over. There's gonna be no big gathering. I just couldn't help myself. I made this enormous vat of guacamole as if we're gonna have you know ten ten visitors and spent spent the whole game trying to eat enough of this to justify myself having made this big bowl of guacamole but it was a great game even though it wasn't a particularly close and we your spared being wrong jim. I i don't know what your prediction would have. Been but charlie nbd. And i all predicted the chiefs and whether actually said this on the podcasts are just set it off line to people that i couldn't see mahomes losing because the guy could do a handstand and throw you know. Twenty-five strike twenty five yards down. The field turned out like that's what he had to do. That's what he had to do in this game. And i love the tweet. Someone tweeted out late in the second. Half that patrick mahomes as just thrown the seven most impressive incompletions nfl. There's one of them. Jim he ran about back you know he ran backwards about one hundred fifty yards. I think i think in this game. There's one he'd run back about twenty yards with falling down and the his throwing arm was almost on the ground and he's submarines this thing like thirty forty yards into the endzone to receiver. That's totally covered. Like four guys are on them and hits the receiver in the helmet and they had a shot of mohan's just looking shocked. The guy had dropped. Drop the pass but what what an incredibly talented quarterback he is indeed rich. The game was on television. And i did it. But also yeah. I predicted chiefs to win as well. If the if the receiver had held onto that pass even if the chiefs lose the game it would have been remembered. As the what are the all time great touchdown passes the ball. Time gotta catch it. There was another one that the guy actually. If i'm not mistaken did cash is just us out of bounds but Mahomes on the left side of the field and was getting in the process of getting sacked into through this desperation. Pass down the sideline that was right on the guy's finger fingertips and i think he caught her came close to catching it with one hand. It's just out of bounds anyway. It's that time in the podcast for our editor's picks jimgeraghty what you pick. We'll just assume anything rich wrote in the past week is my pick but it soon once all those are aside the second best item kyle. Smith pointed out the absurdity of folks on the left attacking van jones for his support of criminal justice reform during the trump years Past couple of years. I'm going to the coke. Those are these seminar network if you call them the coke network. They activate the shock collars Coke the most people call the coke network their winter meeting very big push for criminal justice few years ago Van jones didn't speak at it'd be was featured in one of their videos and they were very proud of the fact that they built in their minds. A cross ideological bipartisan coalition. Pushing for this. This is kind of what we say. we want. see out of politics. We want to see people put aside their partisan differences looking for what can make the best policy finding compromise finding common ground where they can and now there's some crazy lefties who want to argue that van jones is some sort of nefarious or unsavory figure. Because he had the audacity to try to get legislation that he supported past when trump was president. it's an utterly asinine approach to politics. It makes it makes it just a hardline. Ideologues and kyle smith just raked over the coals. Well-done kyle cut. What's your pick. My pick is kevin williamson's choose stay newsletter in which she describes going on a road trip to pick up a poppy. It is absolutely hilarious especially the part about taking out. What's of cash without being a criminal. So my pick is david harsanyi posts titled tom. Friedman's warp love affair with communist. China has been a long running Romance swear friedman admires that. At least the chinese know how to run a country competently and to make solar panels and the latest occasion is an interview that friedman had on cnn and her sahni appropriately. Just skewers him for it. So that's it for us. You've been listening to a national view. Podcast any rebroadcast. Re transmission or account. 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Episode 237: Problematic Nomenclature

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Episode 237: Problematic Nomenclature

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If you don't like what you hear here, please forget I said. Anything. So Jim. Gary had this bizarre circumstance of the White House waging war on the government's top epidemiologists. You had the press office sending out to reporters. A list of all the things that Anthony G has been wrong on a over the years, and during this pandemic I have actually physically seen this document myself, but it kind of distorts some of she statements during this pandemic, and yes, he's been wrong about things you know over the decades like everyone has, but this just seems a bizarre deflection. Foul, she doesn't have anything that to do with what's going on now. It's not his his fault to the extent. Anyone's fault, but you have this game of blame shifting going on. It's more than bizarre wretch. It is infuriating because Anthony Fauci is a human being. He is imperfect. He's going to make mistakes. He has said things during the course of the spend. That I have not particularly agreed with or enjoyed or appreciated He is a doctor. He focuses on health matters, and he does not know He's not an economist. So you know this, there's reason to point out that you know. He may not see the full picture and may not be able to be. He may not be the person who Would be able to see the full effects of everything because he's looking at everything strictly from a perspective of what is best for human health, and not necessarily taking those offsets. With that said. He's a very bright guy. He's a very reliable guy. The truncating of the quotes that were apparently in this a release distributed by the White House Office is I think par for the course of administration that seems to think that if they can get half a point than that, somehow it counts or something that they're scored some sort of point This is an administration that appears to be in deep denial of the seriousness of the pandemic. Cases are going up very dramatically up until about a week ago, you could say yeah, but deaths are going down and that's right you from about you know mid to late April down to about the end of June beginning of July. Yeah, it was really nice to see a steady decline. you look at the pattern is a weekly pattern. Noah's goes down dramatically on weekends, and it seems like rich use seems like every you know every every. Every weekend encounter somebody on social media says see was barely two hundred cases today where we've turned the corner, and then all the cases that didn't get count Saturday and Sunday. Get put it to Mondays pile and all of a sudden the jumps back up again, but the week after July fourth. It's you know. The number of deaths reported went up to close to a thousand climbed a little bit off pretty good. Start so far this week, Juice gets really that Tuesday's the Dump Day sex recording here Tuesday morning, so we'll, we'll see like Arizona. Yesterday had eight deaths, which fantastic, but last last Monday, it was the same pattern real low on Monday, and then they jumped up on Tuesday will probably see the same thing. This week although hope not. This argument that more cases do not necessarily equal more deaths I agree with that to a point that this argument that if the current spike in cases were seeing being driven by young people going out to bars, going to restaurants, having parties, etc, yeah, most those people are younger and healthier and most of them are GonNa pull through fund, but not all and the other point, which is worth noting. Is it most of these? These young at some point, some of these young people live with someone older GonNa. Come in contact with someone who's older or compromise or something like that and those people are GonNa have a hard time beating off the virus, and those are the ones who are gonNA. Show up in the death numbers so I. Don't think there's a Lotta people who seem to be hand waving away this current. You know increase in cases. The trump administration in particularly the president to numerous numerous times said this virus is going to disappear. He wants to go back to the traditional rallies. Who saw what happened in Tulsa He wants to go back. He wants to hold a traditional convention down in Jacksonville Lucky Charlie, He gets to you know he want. He wants to act as if life is going back to normal and it can't. We can go close to normal that we did in March. We know more about this virus now than we used to and I. Think one of the important points we need to figure out a way to live and function with this virus been writing about the effort to return gets to school, but we can't. Can't pretend as if it's not there and we're seeing that and when you treat Anthony Fauci. As just another political opponents as just another Hillary Clinton as somebody to be taken down, because they have the audacity to say things, the president doesn't want to hear It is a good example of just the down to the bone marrow dysfunction in this administration. Now the Bouchier earlier this week had said was doing some interview with somebody up in New York and said something like you. Guys have been in good hands in New York I, think reference whether whether it's a reference to build a Blasi or Andrew Cuomo. Dr Chee I respectfully disagree I point a lot of mistakes. Those do guys have made particularly in the early parts of this downplaying the risk and particularly Komo's decision to send infected patients back into nursing homes. But that beef over a stray comment by FAO she is not a reason to launch this secret behind the scenes, public relations campaign to undermine the one guy in America that just about everybody trusts and listen to for health advice. And by the way who are who these people, these sources who get to remain anonymous if you're a white, house correspondent and somebody comes to you. Hey, look. Here's here's the here's all opposition research on Anthony FAUCI. Reporter at some point, you say Nah, I'm not going to give you a non anonymity on this I think if you WanNa, go you, WanNa make a step like this. You really should be able to attach your name to it and 'cause I love to know that who in the White House thinks this is a good idea I'd love to know who, in the White House thinks that the way to deal with this ongoing pandemic crisis way to get out of this is to try to you know in on background or in the shadows trash. Anthony vouchers reputation because that's the real problem here. Charlie so this came up a couple months ago. When there's a fire faculty effort that that we discussed. Epidemiologists is Jim points out. He's going to focus just on the public health aspect of things, and he's actually admitted this, so he's a little bit like a general in a war. You you you, you want general's. Not, just because they can carry out your orders, but you. You want their advice, you know they're experts in military matters, but they can't be the ultimate decision maker, because there are all sorts of other considerations and and you you want other perspectives, and no one elected them no one elected anthony. FAUCI so you WanNa math the table. You don't want him at the a at the in the big chair around around the table, but you know he's. He's playing his role. His role. It's for the reasons you outline. Odd. To blame him, unless the implication is that he's actually the president of the United States. His an adviser. He's an advisor. Who's going to focus in a? Particular way on a particular topic. You'll have his own bio sees. The prime minister. Of Great Britain. CanNot blame members of his cabinet. That's advise him, but the ultimate decisions. Rest with him. But is even more true in the United States this no. Collective responsibility within the cabinet. fout she is. Somebody who has been brought in to help? The ultimate. Decisions in this country live with the president and. With Congress and At the state level. There is a tendency unfortunately. And, it's becoming more and more pronounced as we approach the election. And as the poll numbers don't look good for trump although they may change. For his most devout apologists. To? Him As. Having been duped. By Jared Kushner. By Anthony FAUCI. By Mitch McConnell by anyone really. I think it was on this podcast. Someone said of owning design knew about this. Attitude at the moment. I've only trump for president. None of this would have happened. And so. FAO CHEESE BEING CAUSED SEO. Having whispered. To the president in service of the deep state. Now it is entirely reasonable. For the president to believe that FAO cheese wrong. That he's. Mono maniacal. He is. Overly pessimistic. But the fault of the. Public policy that has been pursued by the executive branch. Has to lie. With the president, And the president believes this as we can see by his various arguments. Offered up to the Supreme Court and others. Bilbao Cetinje believes that. So. I don't think the question here is whether Anthony Fauci is good or bad. I think the question here is why is he? Being blamed. By the person who is actually in charge? Yes well clear also what is blamed for being blamed for the initial shutdowns or is he blamed for the the resurgence now, or or what so we needed Jim guarantee piece about the process possibility that found. She was in Wuhan in the lab. Creating Coronas. SAID JIM WE'RE GONNA to get more the resurgence in a second, but let's let's let's exit question this one extra question to you. Jim Garrity Anthony FAUCI will still be in his position at NIH by the end of the year. Yes or no. I'm going to say yes. I want to make a qualifier. If light leaves at the end of the year it will be because he's announced retirement, not because he's been fired by the president. Is You know he's getting up there in years I? Suppose it's possible if by the end of the year looks like we're on a good glide path to a vaccine and everything. Maybe he'll say all right I've done my duty. It's time for me to write off the sunset, but I don't think the president will fire because I think he recognizes that move with blow up in his face. By the end of the year. May Not matter. I think he'll stay that. It seems as if trump is doing the least on thing. which is to keep him in his position while undermining him? In the press. I think asked this question at some point. Earlier in the year and a much said no, I'm yes, now it's clear. He really likes his job and. I believe they have to fire 'cause right and has to be some cause plus the politics of it would be corbeil, so the thing you do would be to sideline him and tries much as possible. To, keep off the their ways, but I think one way or the other. He's still gonNA. Be there at the end of the year. The Guy who loves his job, so let's pause and hear from one of our sponsors this week. Quip, let's talk about brushing our teeth. Seventy five percent of US use old worn out bristles. That are ineffective in. In even more people forget to floss daily. Good Health starts with good habits. Quick makes it easy delivering all the World Care Essentials. You need to brush floss better. The electric toothbrush time sonic vibrations with thirty second pulses to guide at dentist recommended two minute routine. 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We've had an enormous debate about who's better at handling corona virus whether it's state. Governors are red state governors We've discussed this before, but we've had this ridiculous effort to make Andrew Cuomo into saint. This crisis and you've had people this week. When the city had one day without deaths with first time during the pandemic say, Gee, that's that's awesome leadership, if only Florida and Texas and Arizona. Had such leadership. We wouldn't be dealing with problem. We are now have to say Florida. Numbers have been alarming. Just the the absolute number of cases had one a couple of days ago, fifteen thousand new cases more than you ever had. confirmed in New York. You have said more cases on any given day. Than that in New York City but Florida also in it when uncovered the fifteen thousand extraordinary number of tests may maybe one, hundred, forty, three, thousand test or something. But what do you make of it? Well I should say that as. You would talking I see that the news has broken that. The Florida Department of Health. Misstated, some of the positivity rates. And this report from Fox thirty five, showing that. Where the Orlando Health report showed ninety eight percent. It was actually nine point four percent bit of a different so. This may or may not account for some of that. But it is. So what so what they said? Ninety eight percent was nine point four. And this report says that they've noticed widespread discrepancies in. The data. Discrepancies which way. Suggesting many more positive. Cases being reported than a true. But either way. It's got bad. and. We know that it's bad because we've seen some reflection of it in the hospitals and we've seen some. Reflection of it in the death rate, although it is worth saying that that death rate compared to where we were in marches stove very low. What do I make of it? I suppose I'm still in a wait and see mode. I. I came at this. Differently I think than many in that I didn't think. It was possible to get rid of it. I didn't think that we should shut everything down in perpetuity. And I didn't think that. It was obvious that the damage that it causes. Is Greater. At least in most of the country than the damage caused. By the shutdown. Foul. In the last week saying you cannot. Manage this with an open economy. I think it was Chris Hayes who said it's like trying to? Live in your house while it's on fire. I simply don't agree with that analogy. I don't think it's like trying to live in your house while it's on fire. I think it's like trying to decide which sort of house fire you would prefer. And we remember the depression for reason. It's called the depression for recent. And the unemployment levels at the height of the shutdown was so great. As to eclipse the depression. That's not sustainable either. So, we've become a little bit obsessed with this because the press only wants to talk about Republican governors and the. The gas lighting effort David Hossain user to about this. The gas lighting effort in favor of. Andrew Cuomo has been absolutely repugnant. But I still. Brought speaking don't blame. Anyone. I think it is clear. That CUOMO's decision to push people into nursing homes was a disaster and I think it is clear that Rhonda saddest decision to do the opposite, probably saved a lot of lives in Florida. But as a rule. I have watched. As everyone. Try their best. To counter this I think that's true of Cuomo with a couple of exceptions. I think that's true. Of Ron Disentis I think it's true. Greg Abbott I think. Is True Gavin Newsom in California? I think it's in Colorado. The program that is being thrown around is really mostly. Pot is on nonsense. You have on the one hand. The. Claim by Joe Biden that. If he had been president, he would have shut down earlier when in fact, he didn't mention coronavirus really. Until after already got going, and he didn't stop his rallies. And early. Tall. You have? This. Absolute obsession with President trump as if the fact that he was president while this happened in some way means that he caused it or or failed. I think it's all noise. I just see people. Businesses counties gated communities retirement homes governors federal officials. I see them during the best. And I see that everywhere and. I. Think that they have hit upon. The only workable path. It's just it is not possible to pretend. This isn't happening and behave completely normally open all the buzz as just put Disneyworld at full capacity. That's not possible. We know that that's not possible. And we know it's not possible because the people who are irresponsible. Some of the younger people especially who quickly crowded into bars in Texas and Florida and elsewhere. We we know that that causes spread. But equally it is just not possible to to keep everyone at home. It's not an option. And so I see people of good faith earnestly trying to find this middle road and I see it broadly working now what is working? It doesn't mean there's no death doesn't mean there are no infections. This ought idea out there somewhere that if A if you say well, I think we're doing the best we can that. This is working that you're in some way disrespecting the people who have or who are still dying. But there are lots of things in life that we accept the you. All you can do is accept the trade off and. That that trade off is not one that is born of greed, hair, or blood or A lack of respect for science. It's one that is born of inevitable mistakes. And the vicissitudes that mark out a free country. Such as this. So what I think of I think we're muddling on especially. Can in Red America in Blue American and everywhere between am and I am pleased that although the number of cases does seem to have gone up, even even. Notwithstanding. Testing change the denominator. Is that we are not seeing the sort of rates that we were saying in March. Jim. Yes so. Lot unpacked there I think one of the really depressing revelations of this pandemic has been. I'M NOT GONNA I'M GONNA. Say a plurality. I don't think it's a majority, but I think it's certainly a chunk. Allow a significant chunk of the people. Who are interested in politics either they work in it. They work for an elected official. They aren't elected official they write about politics for major national institutions and the folks who are really vocal about it on social media they can only understand what's happening in this pandemic through the Lens of politics, and some things in life are just much more important than politics. My side is good. Your side is bad As I discussed it in the you know previous topic, look. The cases are going up deaths to start to creep up. I don't think there's really any dispute that reopening society led to greater rates of increase in great rates of of people being infected. It's just you know that we saw this at the Amazon warehouses. We saw this at supermarkets. We saw this at the. at know basically the meat packing plants anyplace got people who are interacting with each other and working. You're increasing the risk of people you know spreading the virus from one to another It's also worth noting that the dominant strain in this country is the you know. The the research indicates it is way more contagious than the original version that would I cropped up and Wuhan, so everybody looks and says Oh. Why can't we do as well as Chinese day? It'll besides the fact that we don't weld people into their apartments because we don't want them to leave their apartment there's a real there's some data indicating that what they were dealing with was way less. Less, contagious the ones we're dealing with right now. but I also think the protests were a factor, not a huge factor. There are a lot of people who want a very clean narrative, either that the protests were the reason. There's a spread or the protests had nothing to do with the spread. Well was US mayor Eric Garcetti said that the protests demonstrations led to a spike in apparent virus cases in fact early on the LAPD had an outbreak clothes. Those folks who work in the protests and such he citing director of Public Health Dr Beverage. Barbara Ferrer out there. Look you you get larger. People were a bunch of wearing masks. Yes, was everybody wearing masks? With there's an chances are some of the spread received right now was from those protests now the overall probably more people going to bars going to restaurants going to public places. If everybody were their mask and remains six feet apart as much as they could. We would be in much better shape. People aren't. And I, don't you know this is one of the things probably been most infuriating about all this is that? There are some people who due to health conditions You know can't wear masks, or it's very uncomfortable for them I'm not going to give him any grief about that. I don't like seeing the Karens and I apologize to the listeners who are called Karen. John, Jay Nordlinger hates it. When we use this term, we all know the type of person who just gets in somebody else's face about it to berate them for either not wearing a mask or the mask is below their nose or something like that of course by getting in their face. You're literally doing exactly what you're not supposed to do during this. But. That's where we are We're in a really bad shape I'm with these increasing cases I don't like seeing them. California shutting bars and restaurants I feel like a lot of these businesses they were just starting to. Crawl back to viability here but it's probably necessary, and I would point out that you know if Buford South Carolina, if Birmingham Alabama if if if Texas, if these places can require mass indoors, there's not a single. Place in the country that can't do this. This is a basic step. It's GonNa that could help mitigate the spread I guess what I find most infuriating about this. This mentality like you know other people are overreacting. Yes, are there people who are getting their jollies from correcting others? Yes, are there idiotic lawmakers? Who are you know? Gretchen Whitmer, banning the sale of seeds. Yes, absolutely. But they're also bunch of people who want to pretend. This thing is over who want to pretend. This thing was never that bad, and it's just not the case and we're not going to get a handle around this thing unless we do this and my suspicion. Is that what we're seeing right now? Probably is making the reopening of schools in the fall It was always going. Take a little bit of a leap of faith that schools were able to figure this thing out. We've already seeing big schools jurisdictions like Los Angeles and San Diego say Nope can't do it. It's not gonNA work and we're just pushing. We're pushing. We're making these more frustrated because we won't. We won't take these basic steps that can mitigate the spread of the virus. It just seems on on the bars that I feel for these bar owners. Jim Says Small businesses most of them shut down e finally get to reopen then then your shutdown again, but just in the scheme of things you know this isn't like. Shutting down the steel industry in the United States or something if if if this is the price to pay to try to thwart this spread primarily among young people in in the numbers, specially in Florida in terms of the age cohort. That's now part of much lower than than it was and should lead. You don't want anyone to get it, but to to better. Outcomes in the end than we saw earlier in the year in in northeast, but if if shutting down bars, this is the price of that. It seems worth paying. I absolutely understand why people extremely frustrated by this firstly. The double standards are extrordinary. Protests define but Basel not. Protests define funerals and on. Protests define, but baseball attendance is not and so. Second if you own a bar I'm sure it isn't an enormous constellation. The. You're helping by shutting it. You Lose Your Business. You lose your livelihood. Maybe it's been in your family a longtime. But neither the. Rampant. Hypocrisy partisanship that we've seen nor the fact that it is tragic. Change. The truth and that is that. Governors in states sta verse as California, Texas and Florida realized extremely quickly that Baas who are a big part of the problem. Now in Florida. It's worth saying that the. Governor's office tried to mitigate a little bit the damage by. Preventing alcohol from being sold in Bas rather than closing them the idea being that people would congregate in large numbers and drink. Lower their inhibitions, but those. Institutions could stay open. So food show. reruns of sports, so what you will. But that's not a great concentration to a bar and around the stanton, vast majority of the income of a ball comes from serving alcohol. But it's true. Unfortunately, it's just true. This was a problem and I know having. Spoken to some of his people that disentis was livid. And acted quickly on this. because. Both some baroness when not following the rules? and Bob Patrons, not falling. Mean who'd have thought that WHO'd have thought that? In. Florida good behavior right right, but look this is just a fact and S. you say I. think that the aim hair. Off Any government action. Should be as narrowly tailored as possible. There is a big difference it seems between the way people behave at Disneyworld. The reopening of which seems to have gone fine. And the way people were behaving. In Baas and it makes very little sense to say. We'll shut everything down. When you can go to the source of. The problem and That is the sort of. Consideration and adjustment that we need, and it's a real shame. That the people who have been responsible for that have not got any credit for it because. Do. We think that denying them that credit is going to increase or decrease the likelihood that they will continue to make difficult decisions and adjust on the fly. I think it's more likely to make them. So Jim last last. Segment masks so we've seen this kind of. Ridiculous war between trump in the media and his critics over. Whether. He should wear a mask and I think he he should more often. You know it is just a symbol, the people. It's okay you can. You can do this, but he obviously just doesn't like the way it looks and fears getting mocked finally had him while there's a a brief cameo at four plan I believe where he wore a mask in public, and then he was seen at Walter Reed with a pretty like A. Rock and look mask pretty tough, Lucan presidential. Mask but I have a little sympathy with him for this. You know it's a little bit like your President United States. You don't WanNa be seen out. With a heavy coat when it's cold. You WanNa. Show your vigorous near you. Not Wearing a code of I sort of understand where he's coming from on this, but in general, the war of masks is just A. Highly pointless to me and just masks, obviously, if the options and you wish these aren't the only options, but the options are like broad-based shutdowns of the economy and wearing masks is wearing a mask, because clearly the better and less intrusive option, and then just one last thing on the other side ledger though I hate. I hate that the mass tattletale stuff than. Ted. Cruz was trending on twitter yesterday. Someone took a photo of him on an American. Airlines flight not wearing masks because he was drinking a cup of coffee, which is. Permitted under the rules, so it's just another thing where we just can't maintain any sense of equilibrium in this country over pretty much anything. Yeah I mean look there. Earlier there are people who get their jollies from this WHO look? It's not like we can watch sports. It's not like we can go to the movie theater. A lot of the things we used to do to enjoy ourselves in this country have been taken away by this pandemic, and I think a certain number of people who decided to get their sense of pleasure, their sense of excitement, their sense of moral superiority from finding other people who are not breaking the rules and going out I caught. You and you know we're going to everyone shame. Them shamed them. probably extreme example was that at crowd that just descended on that woman in a supermarket Staten Island, or Long Island or someplace like that the rich. Of course the president should be wearing a mask. The man is seventy. Some years old is not spelled character of all time. He's taking certain medications and is a present United States. Of course you should be wearing a mask he. He looks out because almost everybody who enters the white. House gets tested, but you got to AIDS THE CORONA VIRUS, couple of secret service agents caught the coronavirus. He wants to keep doing rallies. He's lucked out because every the constantly test stuff they try to keep people who could be potentially infected away from him if he didn't have that, he could well caught it by now. So of course he should be wearing a mask. The other thing is is that if he if he wore a mask all the time, and if trump I don't understand how the president has not started branding, putting the trump logo on masks, and having all of his supporters wear them because one everybody would want them to. This will get everybody a lot whole bunch, the folks who were not wearing masks to start wearing masks, and I could just pick you. Rich this is the best mask. It's absolutely the finest got all these different layers made America It's infuriating that he's taken this long to do this at aesthetics me, nothing at point like this. What matters is whether you know? If you WANNA protect his life and also God forbid for catches this. You want to protect the people around you. This is the difficulty of by the way if you read back the The big influenza book looking at nineteen eighteen, we went through all of this stuff all over again, and there are a whole bunch of people like Oh. We're not wearing mass bank robbers where mass no honorable man would wear masks, and then they died because they caught the influenza virus, and they refused to wear a mask. It is absolutely infuriated the amount of discomfort. The comes from what I don't like wearing a mask. Nobody likes WHIGHAM ask. But we do it because we have to. We do it because it adds. The avid quoting a regular correspondence with a reader of national review, who is a director of medical research for one of the top ten hospital facilities in the country. he doesn't want to be on. Record does Wanna give his name because he doesn't have to clear everything press office and he doesn't want to cause headaches stress for his institution, but he just giving me his take on is like look. masks offer a little bit of help. They make a bulletproof. No, But York cops wear bulletproof vests. Knowing it doesn't protect their head of their limbs. They do it because it gives you a little bit of protection and a fight like this. You want every little bit of protection. You can get within reason, and for most circumstances. Look if you're running a triathlon fun, you don't have to wear a mask you go to the grocery store. Put Them Aska. You know get you reassure the people around you take that little bit protection. It's just so infuriating that so many people have decided to turn this into you know. You can tell them at the end of my rope. He wrote a steady. It's just another another symptom of how with trump his his leadership takes a backseat touts his personal whims on on so many things so exit question. You Charlie Cook, the trend will see in the interim here. Even outside of states. That we've had a focus on Texas Florida. California the trend will be toward more restrictions and re closings rather than more reopening. Now I think is going to stay broadly the same. I think we'll be stuck in a holding pattern rather than moving onto the next phase. We will stay where we are. Geared. Slight Movement in the direction of reclosing and more restrictions and things like that. I'm a GMI say slate movement, but it's actually not a very good question, because it's just it's just hard to generalize about the entire country. You know the the northeast, which is a much different place will. See more reopening, and we'll see other places around the country tilting back tours to reclosing so with that. Let's pause here from our second sponsor. 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Dot Org Slash Liberty. Please check it. Out so Jim Garrity. We had very unsurprising news on Monday. The redskins are dumping their name. For a name yet to be determined, this seemed extremely. Inevitable. Given the environment we're living in and given a key feature of that environment, which is corporations placing? Pressure on institutions to get in line, so the Washington redskins are a business and there there's no way that they're just gonNA leave a lot of revenue on on the table by. Name although Dan Snyder has been committed to it. For me I'm really sad to see it. Go I think it was a great tradition. I don't think it harmed anyone. The Burgundy and gold the logo the fight song all this really just worked, and what brought Redskins, fans of all ages all races and creeds together in a under the umbrella of this great tradition in dormant to the the NFL and it's it's too bad in my happening. Yeah, I mean look for for quite a while. This has been crusade of certain folks on the left I think the Washington Post at one point said. We're not going to use the name of the Washington football team and I think that lasted for about five minutes. Because then you'd hope the sports section, it would say Redskins Win I'm just kidding themselves. Vehemently opposed to this I'm a I think with the difference between this circumstance, and all the other previous circumstances I mean Dan Snyder, said a couple of years ago never will change. The name printed all caps. You can quote me on that. Etc.. is that the corporate sponsors started getting. There was a report that there were grouper shareholders at Fedex and various other big corporate sponsors of the team. WHO said you know? The Dame team name has to change, and that's what different in Oh by the way in the statement issued by the team formerly known as the Redskins. You notice they had said. This is an important decision for our sponsors are fans and our community? Notice the there. That's twice. They put the word sponsors came so I think that is. I also think it's worth noting that the rest of the League is tired of this that this has been a dwelling now. Here's a look talk to native Americans are native Americans who are upset by this shur pulling indicated that mostly made of Americans were not that bothered by it, and in fact, if you look at the actual condition of native Americans in this country, they've got real problems. The Indian Health Service is not what ought to the housing on reservations is not what it ought to be education opportunities and the opportunity to rise and prosper. De Achieved the American dream. You're not where near what they need to be in native American communities and I call me crazy I. think that's probably what they'd really love to see responses on so somewhere out there on the reservation. There's somebody who's living in substandard housing. WHO's impoverished might have nutritional problems. Our kids can't go to school. It's going to take him to play. Get Allowed to get college and succeed in life. But. They changed the name of the Redskins so I bet that's that's a real. Win Their bets, they're they're all feeling. Great about that. Daniel Snyder who got probably one of the most hated people in Washington DC in part because of the perception of him as a meddling owner, and in part, because the team has just been very lousy back. They lost the jets last year. How bad you have to be anti That, you know that this is an opportunity for him to improve his reputation in DC circles win a whole bunch of of applause and praise for finally making this, you know taking away this offensive name, but also he gets make a lot of money on the merchandise for the new team name, and the they're change the colors and stuff like that so if they turn it to the Red Wolves or I mean my argument is the red tape. Because, I mean think about it. You know what talk about a strong defense nothing gets past red tape. You know so my, but at some point you know either this year. Assume that there is a full you know regular season. you'll see teams, red and gray or some new change change change name, change logo, change colors, and everybody's going to go out. They're going to order online. They can get their New Jersey's. They're going to get their new hats scarves the new all the DADS and Daniel Snyder will make a mint. And everyone will say Oh, wasn't he noble? Wasn't it good of him to do that? When in fact, this is just a way to cash in you know. Generate a whole make. Everybody's paraphernalia obsolete. I think my problem had. And Adam braided this last time we talked about team names. Is that I don't? Really believe there's any limiting principle. And I don't believe that. This is anything more at re than Calvin Bill. And I don't believe that anyone. In a position of responsibility has the willingness or the courage to stand up to it. And so even if I were of the view that Redskins is offensive, which gnawed? I would be wary and we. We saw this week. Pronouncing name correctly Karen Attia Karen ties. Opinion. Page editor at the. Washington Post decided that the Texas Rangers Baseball team. Need to change their name. So we have the Indians. The ranges and the redskins currently under fire. It's hard not to run through other teams and find reasons that may sound silly to us now, but the could be used, and if had enough. Power behind them. And if endorsed by the likes of Nike. Would would lead to a chain them in Chicago. White Sox House Pretty Racist. Royals what are we we English now? The Arizona Cardinals. Theocracy The buffalo bills expansionist manifest destiny. Sort of cult to the bengals is cultural appropriation. CLEVELAND Browns Free Rude. I mean how far how? It sounds as if I'm being facetious. But, I'm not the Vikings. They raped and pillaged. The, patriots who could be a patriot, a country such as this the saints same, problem. Asks the cardinals. It's not hard to construct a silly argument. Even a separate CISCO The forty niners go back and look at that movement. I don't think they were endorsed by the Southern Poverty Law Center. We. We've reached a point at which. The language that the people who drive this sort of thing. the language that they speak. Is So. Self referential so circular. And so inchoate. that. Case that is supposedly self evident can be made in favor of or against. Almost anything. And I I am worried I will say that. that. We're going to end up with the most. Only the most anodyne. Names full for teams. I think visit. Was a joke in a Sitcom that I haven't seen. About this where they were tossed with coming up with the name of a a a mascot. And it ended up being the person's. And I think it was gray in Collab- because. Anything else was risky. Is that what we want to be? A culture. I've spoken fairly vehemently about the confederacy becau