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Wilkinson Report: Few Answers

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Wilkinson Report: Few Answers

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He's not with me in studio like he was yesterday but after the news broke after we recorded this. Show yesterday about the wilkinson Report and the results of it and the punishment if you want call that A levied by the league against Against the football team. I asked tommy to join me on the show today. By the way subscribe doesn't cost you anything in please rate us and reviews if you haven't done that Some of you have asked why. I asked that all the time. We're doing very well and we're pleased with you know all of our advertisers and we are pleased with the number of people that are listening to this podcast It is a a real healthy sized audience and and we thank all of you for listening but the ratings and reviews drive the rankings in Podcast land so spotify or apple were. They ranked the podcasts. Those rankings aren't driven necessarily by how many people are listening. But it's how much they like your show now. 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There's no written executive summary There was an oral Report a given to the league which the league then put out a statement on And then the team had a statement as well but this is what we're going to talk about today and maybe at the end of the show I will do A little bit on the nats and Some sports so for those. That don't know and i'm assuming most of you do know The league yesterday announced the outcome of the investigation. That the independent counsel led by beth wilkinson performed over the last eleven plus months and the outcome of that was Spelled out in a pretty long statement by the team but it ended with the conclusion. Which is that. The team was fined ten million dollars ten million dollars which by the way which will be a used to go to charitable organizations to that that deal with anti bullying Healthy relationships character education and a lot of women's related organization as organizations as well tommy. When i saw that. I thought what a break for all dan ten million bucks and he can write it off. 'cause it's going to charity which i have not seen anybody else speak about and i could be wrong. Maybe they can't because it was. You know a fine or a punitive thing. Maybe they can't write it off. But i thought well most charitable donations. Are you know You're able to write those off And maybe he will to. Now kneel in rockville told you this morning that the expenses associated with the investigation which the team also has to pick up. He estimated that it would be between foreign. Four and five million dollars that beth wilkinson and her group made off of this investigation. So maybe the total amount of this is like closer to fifteen million. but that's it no draft choices were. Yeah if i were a woman group. And i could be. If i were a woman screw i would take that money and throw it right back in their face right back in their face and i let the world know. I did that. Well if you're going to do it you have to let the world know there's no benefit to throwing it back in their face the kind of benefit you you'd be looking for without telling everybody about it. Yes that's what i would do. We survived without dance. Snyder's porn money will continue to survive. Yes so i'll go first all right and i'm gonna just high level at and then you can high level and then we can get into more detail first of all. I'm not surprised at the punishment. When they waived the debt limit. and then they loaned him the money as you reported or some of the money to buy out his minority investors. That was the day that we obviously came to the conclusion that he's not going to be forced to sell the team that there's no smoking gun out there or there's nothing out there that Implicates him enough to force him out of ownership. We knew i mean they're not waving the debt limit and then loaning the money to buy out his minority investors. If he's on his way out. That was so i was not surprised by the punishment. Jesse you know. The punishment was the most severe for an owner team in nfl history. But i also understand. It's a drop in the bucket compared to the value of the team number two. I am very surprised that at the very least we didn't get and i'm disappointed that we didn't get something from beth wilkinson. You know a three to four page executive summary of the investigation. At the very least i also however would say in the same breath that this is not comparable to all of the exhaustive hundred forty page written investigations by ted wells and others for deflate gate and other things there. It's not an apples to apples. Comparison because those investigations did not interview people with promised anonymity so they're they're not comparable from that standpoint at the same time. I would wonder why they couldn't have done something from beth. Wilkinson in terms of a report with non identifying information. Or you know faith or false name. Could they could have have to identify people in order to you know you. They're valid quotes and they're valid descriptions of what happened right but but again. It's not all i saw a lot of people yesterday. Comparing you know will deflate gate. Deflate gate had a one hundred and thirty six page report. By the way. I read that thing. I'll never forget it to ted wells thing where he didn't understand the ideal gas law which was hysterical But it's it's different. Because there's there was no promised anonymity to the hundred and fifty people that were interviewed for this investigation Thirdly and lastly. I don't view tanya becoming the day to day co ceo Operator responsible for day to day responsibilities as as spelled out by the league that tanya is going to have day to day responsibilities for a few months. While dan is going to focus on things like the stadium and other matters. This is not a suspension people. A suspension would have been called a suspension. There would have been no downside to a ten million dollar fine and a six month suspension for what they did describe in their statement as a culture that was hostile the women this is not a suspension. Now the one thing that makes me Hesitate a little bit is mark maske's Tweet that said that. Dan's return to the day to day operations of the team must be approved by roger. Goodell now that makes it sort of a partial kind of suspension. But if he were suspended there would have been no downside for them saying that. So i don't view it as a suspension that she's got the day to day a team operations which by the way is just super comforting. Isn't it And that he Is is focusing. Like michael. scott focused on the big picture and jim took over the day to day operations when they decided on that But he's still involved. These allowed to go to games. He's living with the co ceo under the same roof. So anyway there's a lot more In terms of my thoughts on some of this. But i'll let you have at it in terms of big picture takeaways. Okay i was trying to envision how this went down and i came up with this wilkinson walking into roger. Goodell's office with a hand cart full of boxes that have depositions interviews You know Court documents Maybe some videotapes fiscal evidence. I mean boxes of stuff that she had to bring it on a hand cart and she sits down in front of the commissioner and she says this there commissioner and he says before she goes on he says look welke see. You got all that stuff. They're just gimme the short strokes here. What happened was it bad. And she said yeah and he's fr- her again. Is it bad now. And she said no they said okay. How our job will just take that stuff on your way out and put it in the incinerator next to my door. Where we we get rid of all the stuff that could hurt the league. Pamela down the hall has a massive shredder. She'll be helping you with these books. He's full of depositions. Yeah i mean there's documents out there. There may not be a report but there are transcripts of interviews and documents out there so I mean and you know go. That's wilkinson. I wrote when they hired when the team hired her. She's a good soldier. She is an nfl lackey from way back okay. She's the one who stood on the courthouse steps and told reporters there in a concussion lawsuit. That the nfl never hit any medical information from its players so in the end she's going to do what the league wants her to do. So in a way. I mean i wrote back in when this all announced that he'll probably get a fine and And you know little else will happen now. you know. Given the time that they were investing it in it. I think some people hoped well there must be something going on. I mean roger said back in february that the report was about to be released. You know or about to be completed before. I got the super bowl week and here. We are in july. So i think the time that it took gay people. Some false hope that there might be something substantial. That will come of this and like everything with this football team. It's always false hope Yeah look i mean the goodell league statement you know went into great detail about specifics. But i thought there were a couple of things that were interesting about their statement number one In the opening or in the second paragraph wilkinson was not specifically tasked with confirming or rejecting any particular allegation of inappropriate conduct Really well she was asked to investigate allegations of a hostile workplace culture At the football team that included allegations of bullying and harassment and to make recommendations regarding that. So i would imagine in the process of trying to to find out whether or not there truly was a hostile workplace. Culture weren't there s- specific and particular allegations that needed to be investigated You know in confirmed or rejected. Hey this person said you said this. This person said you bullied this person true or not. I didn't understand that at all if it was specifically put in there to address some of the things in the washington post stories and other stories like you know the incident at fight night where The he said she said with dan trying to you know set his good friend up with one of the cheer cheerleader. Saying hey you know why. Don't you take them up to a hotel room or the the now very You know Famous incident of the plane. Ride back from the country. Music awards in las vegas which resulted in a one point six million dollar settlement with a woman who is on the plane who claimed sexual harassment They settled for one point six million dollars. We do not know the details of what happened on that plane but the settlement included You know Both parties agreeing that the team Do did not any wrongdoing in the incident on there's confidentiality associated with that incident and an insurance company paid off the one point six million. The team did not That means that the insurance company found that team Worth you know Whatever that insurance policy was to protect them against these kinds of claims They certainly found that it was worth paying out on behalf of the team because the team was not involved in any wrongdoing. So there's all of that you know which by the way was a big push from her to find out more about that. We don't know what she found out about that. Particular plane ride. There's been an effort by the washington. Post to unseal that information. But i don't know that that information will ever be unsealed. She got she got one point. Six million dollars Ultimately they did not admit any wrongdoing. We know that. And there's a confidentiality confidentiality clause associated with it. I think that that's i know that. But you know. But i mean that's a confidentiality agreement force. Obviously by the football team any owner. The nfl could have said to dan. Snyder you need to abso- like the part of the problem here is the nfl. Could've said to snyder. You need to to absolve everyone of any confidentiality agreements related to this investigation and all nondisclosure agreements. Which i call. Don't tell the truth agreements. You know The nfl could afford snyder to do that. Or will suspend you definitely. What do you think he would have done. I don't know on what basis the league would have the right to do that. I mean they're obviously private corporation. They don't have to. But a lot of i would bet you. The problem with that is that there are several owners with confidentiality agreements in settlements with various things. So going one under investigation right now right for sexual harassment. Only one that has special investigator was assigned to investigate. I mean if we started looking under everyones that in the nfl it's gonna get messy with again. Is part of the problem here as well. You know it's it's it's it's a strange concept but We've always felt that. Nfl owners look at the and snyder and say if they can get rid of him they could get rid of me to god go. I'm just saying that in that statement from the league when they put in there that wilkinson was not specifically tasked with confirming or rejecting any particular allegation of inappropriate conduct. I think they're almost putting it in there to say she didn't have anything on the one point six million dollars settlement because that wasn't part of her Of the investigations responsibility or purview. I just i thought that was weird. you know but look in that statement from the league wilkinson or it wilkinson interviewed more than one hundred and fifty people most of whom weren't current or former employees of the club many of whom condition their participation on a promise of anonymity. She interviewed dan. Snyder twice Dan snyder in the club released current and former employees from any confidentiality obligations for purposes of speaking with wilkinson and pledged that there would be no retaliation against any current or former employees who did so And then The bottom line is is that the league said You know this was the goodell statement. I wanna thank beth wilkinson and her team for conducting a thorough and independent review of the washington clubs workplace by the way. I don't know if you picked up on a lot of washington club throughout workplace culture and conduct providing both the club in me with a series of thoughtful recommendations based on your findings beth. Inner team perform their work in a highly professional and ethical manner. Most importantly i wanna thank the current and former former employees. You spoke to beth and her team. They provided vital information that will help ensure that the workplace environment at the club continues to improve. It's incredibly difficult to the biggest insult of all right rich incredibly making thanking the victim right thanking the victims and then by the way going on to laud and complement dan in tanya for turning things around. But i just wanted to get to the final part of his statement The commissioner concluded that for many years the workplace environment at the washington football team. Both generally and particularly for women was highly unprofessional. Bullying and intimidation frequently took place and many described. The culture is one of fear and numerous female employees reported having experienced sexual harassment and a general lack of respect in the workplace ownership in senior management. Paid little or no attention to these issues. In some instances senior executives engaged in inappropriate conduct themselves including use of demeaning language and public embarrassment that this set the tone for the organization that led to key executives believing that disrupt disrespectful behavior and more serious misconduct was acceptable in the workplace. And then they get into the problems were compounded by small. Hr staff by the way. I want to just make this point before. I forget it. And then and then you you respond for anybody that read the post story Or multi both of the post stories and said a lot of. He said she said it's the post they have a vendetta the whole thing. Well this confirmed these lines from the commissioner in this overview of the beth wilkinson eleventh month long investigation. Confirm the post story basically. Yeah you're right that's a good point absolutely it. Hesitate to say it was a good point. You hesitated there. No no because i i was. I wanted to get off what i was going to say. Okay so make sure that. I pointed out that it was that that was a good point. the public embarrassment the public embarrassment reference. I mean that's snyder's emo with everything i mean. That's what he does. He publicly embarrasses the people below him enjoy that he gets off on that referred that for years. Yeah i mean that's gonna change all of a sudden and so war war involvement is going to change all this and that's that's rich the and we'll get to the wall street journal story but but the reference in that wall street journal embarrassment that He's going to be more involved. Then the nfl comes out with this thing. Where snyder is going to basically step away. Which is i if he travel. That's a good point right. Yeah in the if he yeah once he's going to be more involved and then the next day they say oh no. Don't you stepping away and paying attention to the big picture stuff. I didn't think about that. In the puff piece written by the wall street journal but it should have been more like the montgomery journal They talk about him becoming more involved because he's been so less involved and now he's stepping away to handle just big picture issues and she's going to be involved with the day today. Yeah good point. They can't even keep track of all their life. So i wanted i wanted to. Are you finished with that point or did you have another one. That was a good points. But i'm finished with that with that. Was that was a good point. I forgot i. Didn't i didn't pick up on that so i wanted to mention about the wall street journal puff piece which was an embarrassment as you so wrote in your column and set on the podcast from earlier in the week It really was an embarrassment That they essentially you know. Didn't push back on any of these things obviously. It was a bought and paid for thing. There were ground rules the whole thing. Well somebody told me And somebody just told me to look up the name of this person. And so i did. And i didn't know the name of this person. I missed this news but will missile brooke was hired on may eleventh twenty twenty one by your washington football club or washington football team to become the organization's first ever chief creative and digital officer reporting directly to jason right missile brooks resume includes recently being the global head of creative for custom content creative marketing and original programming across all platforms and consumer touch points for the trust the wall street journal barron's group and dow jones media group. Okay there's is the dots there's the dot they're too so this was obviously more. Obviously this was this could have been set up by him with the journal for the purposes of having a big story which was by the way breaking the news that tonya snyder was going to be the co. ceo of the organization. The problem was the rest of the story. And that leads me to this. And that was the football team statement with. The snyder quotes in it Because once again it's It's they it's it's just terrible terrible strategy in my opinion because it starts off with a statement from dan snyder. Actually the whole thing is a statement from dan snyder quote. I've learned a lot in the past few months about how my club operated. He apparently is just learned. Tommy in the past few months about his coma but house clubs operated and the kind of workplace that we had it is now clear that the culture was not what it should be. But i did not realize the extent of the problems or my role in allowing the culture that culture to develop in continue. I know that as the owner. I am ultimately responsible for the workplace. I have said that. And i say it again. You know this is just a continuation of. I wasn't really aware of it. 'cause it wasn't my fault i wasn't involved now i am i am the owner and ultimately it is my responsibility but when i was away during all those years and not you know Involved as much as i should have those people bruce allen and by the way the the three minority owners. Fred smith in bob rothman and dwight dr. They just ruined the culture. Two things on that one. Can they not do the math or understand that we can do the math. Most of these allegations are from ten plus years ago so ten plus years ago is when he admittedly was much more involved than he has been over the last ten years. Now trust me. The bullying the demeaning. The you know whatever was going on there were still a lot of dumb arrogant people in that organization and it it would not surprise me if a lot of this stuff was continuing to go on but in terms of those forty two women. Most of them are from our about allegations from ten plus years ago when he was involved. Hello you dumb ass and your pr department. Can't you figure out that if he hasn't been involved recently but the allegations were from when he was involved then he should have known. I don't get that the other thing too to suggest as you did the other day that he hasn't been involved. Look i do know for a fact based on multiple sources that he hasn't been in the building and he's been more away from the day to day over the last seven eight nine ten years than he was in the first ten years. But we've already pointed out dwayne haskins. Rg three You know. There's the louis riddick story remember with albert hanes worth now. That was two thousand nine. Before bruce or two thousand eight whatever it was when they went around the room and said you know thirteen people basically said no one albert hanes worth and dan said too bad. We're doing albert handsworth You know how about all of the shots of him at practice. In those you know over size michigan fab five shorts that he would have on. You know the redskins Logo all over it but you know the things that basically came down below his knees you know with the you know the three sizes over you know a size shirts that he had on standing there looking like a dope watching the practice is always you know. A- games this guy was less involved but he was still way involved every single road trip gain. They had big parties the night before that he was a big part of. So i wanna hear any of this stuff about you. Know him being so detached he was less involved when bruce came in and might might came in in the football decisions day to day but he was involved in some big ones that went badly twain haskins the relationship with our g three it's cetera but again if most of these accusations that were investigated and were written about and have been written about were from the period of time when he was very involved. I don't know why they think we can't do the math on that. Whatever they don't care if if you think they're stupid they really the nfl as is at a level of arrogance that is really unmatched In in professional sports right now I mean last year they brought in twelve billion dollars in revenue with hardly anybody in the stance. Okay joe i mean i was about three billion short of what they projected in a normal season but still twelve billion dollars. And we don't need you we we don't you megyn show up. They'd rather have people show up but yeah yes they would. Of course it's better for business but they don't need them. Did you see the differences three billion. Well i think they projected fifteen billion in twenty twenty but before the pandemic and it turned out they brought in a twelve billion in revenue. That's not profit that's revenue I don't know what the prophets are. But i'm sure they're obscene Now getting read this part again where it talks about public embarrassment. That happened in the organization. Can you find that again. Hold on beth and our team performed their work in a highly profession. Okay The commissioner concluded based on wilkinson's review the commissioner concluded that for many years the workplace environment at the washington football team but generally and particularly for women was highly unprofessional bullying and intimidation frequently took place and many described the cultures one of fear and numerous female employees reported having experienced sexual harassment and a general lack of respect in the worst workplace Ownership and senior management paid little or no no attention to these issues in some instances senior executives engaged in inappropriate conduct themselves including use of demeaning language and public including use of demeaning language in public. Embarrassment okay just to show you that. It wasn't just women in the post stories. They made the reference of of their reported. That snyder had ordered Dennis green Who was in charge of the chew. Business operations president Been a former male cheerleader in college. I might want to point out. The washington. football team will now have male cheerleaders. Yes okay that he ordered green to do cartwheels for their entertainment And basically ridiculed His his. You know background as a male cheerleader. So it wasn't just this is this is what he does to people below him. Well everyone this is. Why i i noticed in this statement from the league. How many times the word bullying was used. You know because this has been really an issue of of sexual harassment And misogyny but the bullying applied to you know a lot of employees male or female. And that's the one thing. Well it's definitely the one thing much more than sexual harassment or even misogyny that i heard over the years about just what a dreadful person He was in the way he treated employees by the way the way a lot of the people that he hired sort of took that lead and also treated very people very poorly there. A couple of instances that some of us had at the radio station But i don't know one person that didn't immediately stand up and say enoug- you're not gonna talk to me that way But we didn't work for them. We didn't work for the team. You know we weren't paid by the team You know even though red zebra dan snyder's organization owned but one of the things we realized pretty early on is. He was very distant from the radio station. Never set foot into it. We never really had any communication with them and it was. You know a very much for the most part until the last few years sort of an autonomous kind of thing but we would hear a lot of stories. You know about the way people were treated. And that's the one thing on that immediately hit me and reading the league's Statement is just how much i mean. I think the word bullying is used six times in that statement And so that was the one hundred fifty interviews. I think the demeaning way in the bullying way in which employees were treated by various senior people was perhaps as much of an issue as anything else was. Yeah yeah absolutely and You know now he's going to be more involved. So that boeing will be less. I'm sure we'll boy boy did in that in that team statement. Did they compliment them. The other thing. I thought from the statement and from the team statement and from by the way the wall street journal puff piece from the other day They consistently are trying to get across through their messaging that the culture change started in twenty nineteen at the end of that year. You know when. Dan heard bruce say the cultures damn good and that apparently was the spark. It wasn't the post story It was they want everybody to know that the changes you know with the hiring of ron rivera were started long before the post story came out as if to say they recognized it and didn't have to be told of it. They were already recognizing that their culture was failing and they were already working towards fixing it. you see the twenty nineteen like beginning near the end of twenty nineteen mentioned multiple times that dan and tonya snyder started to make a series of significant organizational changes based on you know recognition that the club's culture wasn't wasn't good which was by the way apparently was a revelation to them At the time outlook ultimately we've said this before they have made a lot of changes and maybe the culture right now is the best that it's ever been because they've gotten better and higher quality people into the organization and they've let them do their jobs And yes the football conversation can be compartmentalized for me anyway. And i can talk about. And i can talk about how i actually think and i believe this that. There's more reason to be optimistic than there has been and maybe seven eight years since two thousand thirteen. You know following the twenty twelve season but I am always reminded Especially when i'm near you like. I was yesterday but even when we're just told general forty is as of the surgeon general's warning which is support this team at your own risk. Dan snyder still owns it. And so as long as you understand that going in and you understand. The odds are stacked heavily against a sustained winning culture. But as my good friend. Gary braun said to me many years in. It's something i've used many times on this show A good season does not make a good organization. The nfl is designed for the worst of organizations to have occasional good seasons. So that's what you're really rooting for. As long as he still owns the team. Regardless of how high quality the coach in the team president are. Okay 'cause we have had before a really good high-quality good people as coaches and didn't have sustained winning so as long as you understand that a good season does not make a good organization sustained winning and a culture of sustained winning makes a good organization And that's something that i think. The odds are stacked very heavily against with that said. I will root for the occasional good season which may be this upcoming season. Wilby now let me point out a couple of other things. I wanted to get his. Can we do it right after we take a quick break. because i've got to get in some sponsors. You know it's your podcast. You can do what you want. But i sort of think that it's partly yours to at least the two days that you're more thoughts from tom and me right after these words from a few of our sponsors. Hey guys you wanna keep that full head of hair you wanna keep losing it. I'm here to tell you about a new product called keeps. 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Dc to receive your first month of treatment for free that's keeps dot com slash kevin dc to get your first month three k. Eps dot com slash kevin dc. I wanted to something out on the linkage. Apollo from washington post pointed out In that was that the snyder washington punishment And recommendations were almost identical to what mark cuban and the mavericks scott back in twenty eighteen. Excuse me i tweeted that out. Ten minutes after the snyder news broke. Oh i'm sorry i'm sure. Let me let me let me rephrase. I wanted to point out that tommy tweeted something out shortly after the news broke yesterday. That made it very clear that the nfl took the nba punishment of mark. Cuban in the dallas mavericks almost literally to the description In all of the recommendations It was a ten million dollar Fine that went to women's leadership in domestic violence organizations. He wasn't suspended and then there was a list of ten to twelve you know. Hr recommendations and in-house recommendations that almost mir what cuban and the mavericks faced three years ago. Anyway continue. I pointed that out about ten minutes after the news. Okay but You know at least now. We know what the prices for rich white guys to commit sexual harassment. It's a ten million dollar price tag. So that's been established so when you walk in the door and you wanna you wanna treat women like second class citizens it'll cost you ten million dollars for most of these guys the cost of doing business. Well when you say rich white guys. These were fines of the organization and of the bosses that enabled that culture We don't know specifically whether or not dan snyder Committed sexual harassment Himself and in the case of both organizations. I don't know that the people that did or didn't were all white or or or not do you. I'm referring to the two okay. All right the the price suck the place of allowing a culture that promotes bullying demeaning and potentially sexual harassment and poor treatment of women is ten million dollars. Okay for the owners. The other thing. snyder's now fair gave okay. I mean before she was the You know the The much-heralded and deservedly so spokeswoman for the nfl's fight against breast cancer being a breast cancer survivor herself and deserve all the credit in the world. For an but now she's been dragged in and she's fair game for for anything. Now that happens with that organization right. Do you think that they think that maybe people will go easy on her. I think that would be a reasonable possibility. Yes i think they would. I mean we don't even know her which makes her eminently more likable. The dance nights yes. She's she's an unknown she's not with our automatically makes her puts her ahead of her husband. I have Requested the station is requested as well. either one of them as we have many times in the past and according to their pr department they are not being made available. Not a shocker. On they you know It's going to be a continued sort of reclusive Thing now it would be sheet. Certainly be a better face of the organization than her husband And i would imagine based on things that i've heard she is certainly more pleasant than her husband But i don't know whether or not she's you know Going to make a good co ceo of the organization. I good day to day operator or not but okay. She's fair game. She is fair. Game gates sheets vulnerable to the same criticism. Yeah i i would just suggest that in less. We know that she was involved in something specifically that she's not going to be the target of fans or media criticism because everybody's going to assume that she's doing nothing in that this is all a ruse and that her husband put her in the innocent victim. Category okay no way. I mean you can. I did not. I didn't say what i was. I'm just saying that until she is directly involved in like a decision or you know says something in a media press conference that we can pick apart. It's gonna be hard to think that she's actually calling the shots here. The other thing is For what beth. Wilkinson appears to have the final result. Of what beth welcome. It appears to have done the. Nfl has a has basically a special counsel investigations. Four prosecutor lane lisa friel. She's mentioned i think in somebody an his statement by the nfl about this. Well what what does she do this. She could have done this. She came to the conclusion. That thing sucks. Let's punish them a little bit and move on. And they didn't eat beth wilkerson. It wasn't lisa. Friel to sheikh the special counsel investigations could've done the same thing. Who has a checkered past by the way In terms of covering up evidence herself prosecutor. Yes yes she does She was the one who was a. You know it's funny. Because she drops the hammer on players but not on owners accused. She was accused by the union of withholding critical information. That would have exonerated. Ezekiel elliott in allegations of domestic violence. She was the one who wouldn't allow the lead investigator to meet with goodell about this. We'll look the answers. Also accused also accused of withholding evidence when she Was implicated for prosecute to'real misconduct in an alleged rape case of a former new york city police officers. So she's she's she's a bargain either but she could have done this her. No i'm gonna tie council for investigations. But she's an employee of the national football league. That's wilkins is not. Okay now. She's not but she. She's taken paychecks from the national. You can't conduct a so-called independent investigation with one of your own employees for to be independent. You have to hire somebody outside of the league. And that's what they did. I know that but if you really going to be independent you hiring somebody who you've never paid before that's independent. What was so you can only conduct one independent investigation for a company or a league in your lifetime. Once you've taken money from them once you're no longer independent. Anyone who thought thing was going to be independent you said she would from the beginning but she doesn't work for the league. Okay the other the other one lisa friel does the mouthpiece for league. How many people do you think she had working on this thing. I don't know who she's married to. David gregory david gregory take nets fan or at least he used to be i. I don't know if he still is so. I've got a couple of questions for you. why ultimately we've talked a little bit about it but why if in summit up in in two sentences or less. Why isn't there a written report. Well because i think it would be more damaging it's always more damaging when you see something on paper or in this case in a computer by It carries more weight. it lasts longer. It goes and you know i. It doesn't fade away. It's always it's always there remember. Roger goodell supposedly destroyed the spy gate evidence. Right that's yob being a real curious to what happens to all this stuff. And i'll be real curious and lee better legal minds than me would have the answer to this. If any of these women With their attorneys or go to now turn around and sudan. Snyder in the nfl. And seek beth wilkinson's Information that she compiled earning investigation in discovery. And go to court for that. You know Stop on that. Because that was another question i had because i am interested in what lisa banks is. Goal is with the forty plus clients. She has but i want to go back to something here. So how do you think. I'm just curious and oral report on this eleven eleven eleven month long investigation was delivered. How did that work. Do you think i told you. I i know but you were being sarcastic. How do you think joe point. There's no point. Do you think there's a powerpoint presentation slides of this or do you think they said to her. At some point we do not want a written report. We don't even want an executive summary. We want to spend June twenty-seventh and twenty eighth with you over a four hour period two hours each day and we want you to tell us what you found and somebody took some. I like my. I know i'm being serious. I'm really curious because with any sort of an investigation like any sort of consulting project or investigation it requires a written. Follow up like. I need it here in front of me that i can refer to at some point. I want you to present it to me in person your findings but then i want you to leave me with the you know three ring. Binder of of one hundred seventy five pages of investigation may be proprietary to us because of the anonymity promises promises. That's fine but we need to have something but apparently there is no written. Nothing written on this. She had to put something together in writing to present it orally she just didn't wing it she she she put it down on something and went through it with them. I think it's clearly an effort to make sure that nothing gets leaked because remember. There was a leak. There was a leak to jason bishop at one. Oh six seven the fan when he leaked. That part of the wilkinson investigation was a recommendation. That snyder ba- forced to sell the team he had to pull back on part of what He reported which was that. The league already had that report which apparently it not but he apparently saw some of what was going to be in the report per a source. I think that they don't want of the details leaked and they don't by the way this is that they they paid for this or the team's paying for it but the league they don't have a responsibility to provide anything but this leads don't but it leads me to this. I think it's a bad move by the league in this environment not to have had Beth wilkinson provide the information that the commissioner in the league did in that statement. That statement could have come from her in a two to three page exact summary of the investigation and they could have said that. The details of this investigation include too much information that would require. The disclosed require us to disclose too much that we promised via anonymity. I think that would have done very little. Because no one would have bought that like fed. You can include that information without giving away identities. Well they could've they have said. There could have been too many connecting the dots for too many people in the media that would have unveiled some of the people in this and this is for their protection. There i'm not. I'm not kidding in my reference in how i think this went not that much because the less that roger goodell was told by Beth wilkinson the less he might if who some circumstances be forced to testify to and it's eh possession. What he doesn't know he can't testify to. What do they call that. What's the term for that. I'm blanking when don't don't tell me that a plausible deniability. Hey here's another question for you. What sir neil in rockville. This morning came on. Neil's very good at this stuff by the way. Congratulations to neil. Neil was the one that taught us. Neal was the one that told us that. This report would come out the day before. July fourth weekend holiday weekend now he was twenty four hours off but he said that In you know t set it to me. I asked him. When is this thing gonna come out. And he says i predict it will come out right before july fourth weekend. it'll be you know the last thing You know put out on the friday before that weekend. Now he again twenty four hours off but he had the right idea but he said something to me this morning in 'cause i asked him i said what is lisa banks whose with her law firm. You know forty of these women many of these women that were Were were questioned by beth wilkinson. What is her goal here. Because neil said to me that look these are sexual harassment claims. They're not sexual assault claims which means it's not criminal. There can only be a civil Outcome from a sexual harassment claim and there is statue of limitations on sexual harassment claims. And it's three years so they're long past in most of the in most of these cases of being able to extract money for this. What is her goal here with these women. Well neil would know better to me. I don't know. I mean. I didn't know that there was a stat three year statute of limitations on civil matters involving sexual harassment That would seem to live it Their opportunities for some kind of justice out of all this. Well the answer and i was asking you to see if you had the answer is to make it to bring this guy and this organization down and to make it easier for women who have been subject to this kind of treatment in any business More apt to come out And and and admit these things and to talk about these things. How does that get done. What do you mean how. How does that get done. It does not do that. Well by bringing bright bringing somebody like dan snyder down which can't happen if we don't even know what the investigation unveiled right. So if there if there's no act if there's no legal action to force that information to come out how did they bring dan snyder. Down protests outside it goes downfield goes down field invest. The investigation. They were hopeful would result in something much different. Which would have felt like a win. But you know what the bottom line to all. This is guests. Who won dan. Snyder won he won. I think there was a ray of hope that people. Maybe some of the victims thought that somebody would speak for them in the nfl and nobody did. The nfl should have handled this differently. I mean they're bulletproof. I get it. This'll go away and once the game start. This'll be a distant memory and we won't. We won't even remember the details when the washington football club is playing the la chargers on september twelfth. But i just think. I think in this environment. There should have been something specific from beth. Wilkinson i just think that they're the expectation wasn't that we were going to get the full report that had been the fact that lisa banks and these women were fighting for the report to be made public told you that they had a sense that it wasn't going to be made public but i even thought then we'll we're going to get something from this report we're gonna get a two pager from beth wilkinson with some high level findings and a recommendation on a punishment and and the truth is the league statement was really long. It's a long statement. You know it's i don't know it seems like it's about fifty paragraphs but with that said it didn't come With great detail on why the team is being fine. Ten million dollars other than to to to to to discuss And state for the record something. We've all known which is this is a toxic toxic organization and it was a toxic place to work for by the way everybody in the organization women and that probably had something to do with why he's one hundred forty nine two hundred two and one since he took over ownership with gist to wins the last of which came sixteen years ago. Jesus see that's the other thing when people talk. All he wants to do is win. And they'll spend anything okay great. The problem is his actions over a long period of time have contributed to a record. That sucks and a postseason record. That is literally zero. 'cause one of those playoff wins came in his first year when he wanted to get rid of brad johnson after the trade he wanted to trade rescinded without brad johnson in nineteen ninety nine. They wouldn't have won that one. The one of the two playoff games and the other one came somebody even. He couldn't fuck up completely. Joe jackson gibbs. It really is amazing that over a twenty one season period. This team has won two playoff games. That's it and they haven't been beyond the divisional round one time. It's all connected. People trust me. Joe gibbs overcame. It went to the playoffs twice. That was great. You know they had to win five and then six four in a row and then five in row then four in a row and then you know jay gruden got him there Shanahan got him there with the rg three year by winning five straight and getting in the back door and then gruden did it with cousins winning four straight to get a wild card and then last year old riverboat run. Got him here with a seven. Nine record is a dreadful organization. Hopefully change what. What's painful is for people like you. Is you know what it can be like when it's good. Oh my god and you know what tom. I don't know what it would be like for to be great now. We're totally different city. Then we were the last time it was great. Yeah it's a you saw a glimpse of it the rg three year. But even that now is nine years ago. It's such a different city now too and it's a younger city and i you know i was lucky enough to have lived through that era where it was such an important part of the community. That's the thing that is sucked about the last twenty one years you know and and it sort of what yesterday you know. I think confirmed what we knew. When they waived the debt limit in you know loaned him the money to buy out his minority investors is that he's he's not going anywhere you know and the fans of the team And in many ways the citizens of this city you know are worse off. Because he's going to continue to be the owner. He's a terrible owner with a terrible record and a twenty one year history of ruining what we talked about yesterday. Tommy a public trust whatever that means. That was such an integral part of this city. You know it was a source of pride It was a source of You know pride In our city and in our in our for me my hometown it was in a strange way. It offered up like this You know this thing that brought us together as a community. You know a couple of dozen times a year. I i remember moving here in nineteen eighty three and seeing seeing the rally that would take place at downtown businesses on three corners. right You know before regular home games. You know. Not just for a playoff game but for home games. It was unbelievable. How at as a city Everyone seemed to rally around this team and connect. Everyone felt connected to something. Look i you know. Because there's no way for us to read through eighty to ninety to one hundred twenty pages of what was learned in this investigation. I don't know and i can't say definitively that you know the investigation What what was learned in the investigation doesn't match the ten million dollar penalty. i can't say that definitively. I don't think any of us can. It certainly seems like a very small slap on the wrist. It is the largest You know Fine ever levied against an nfl team by the league. But it still we understand what ten million means for these owners. And you know it's going to go to charity where it might even be tax deductible as i mentioned earlier so i can't sit here and say that what the league chose as punishment wasn't fair. 'cause i don't know the details. I do however think that the league messed up by not revealing at least some of this investigation and i will forever wonder and question you know whether or not beth wilkinson had more than than just you know this toxic culture and executives bullying and demeaning and the whole thing you know that one point six million dollar settlement and what happened on. That plane is still of interest But i also kind of believed that if the league really thought there was a true event that one of their thirty two owners You know perpetrated against you know A woman on a plane You know coming back from vegas in two thousand nine or whatever year that was i. I don't know maybe. I'm being naive here. But i think that they would have nailed them if they really knew that he had done something rather than it being he said she said or rather it being she said and it about somebody else on the plane. I don't know i mean he. I can't somebody else on the plane who works for him and his presence his responsibility smoking gun. You're right smoke fair point if something happened on that plane with somebody else and it wasn't him and he didn't you know let's just You know speculate here And he didn't you know come to her defense. And he didn't fire that person or severely punish that person will then he then he participated in it for all intents and purposes as the most powerful person on that plane. Now let me out. Apparently a lot of as i understand it The nfl and watching the football fans are putting a lot of faith. In ron rivera presence. Help change all this Okay and jason right. Am i right about that you are. There's definitely an implication from various reports that the league is very impressed. And look they set it in their statement with how impressed they were with. Dan and tanya have done in their hiring over the last year. And a half. And that there's faith in ron rivera and marty herni and martin mayhew and jason right. Yes let me just point out that jerry. Richardson had his little sexual harassment party in carolina. That made the nfl force him to sell the team. While ron rivera was the coach mardi hernia was. Yeah yeah right like so. That's the football coach. He's and marty her knees. Just a scout. Basically general man whatever's title is. I don't know no. It's that's a fair point now. Remember the jerry. Richardson situation was different. There's a racial component to the jerry. Richardson thing and jerry. Richardson was on the verge of selling that team. Anyway which made to. I heard ron rivera. Step forward and say this can't happen as long as i'm the coach. Well i don't know what he said or didn't say but you're right. He was the coach. And i think you're right. That marty hernia was there although that may not be accurate or you sure that's accurate. I'm pretty sure that's accurate. I'm pretty sure. Mardi hernia was there. During some of jerry richardson's Sexual hijinks when we come back one last thought on this because it's a question that was posed in a column that was written on this by somebody. We know that to me has always been an interesting dilemma to consider that right after this word from one of our sponsors. 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And i loved the creativity around the beginning of the column. Because it's something we've actually discussed before in the past about the dilemma. If one day snyder was up there on the podium being handed the lombardi trophy so david started off his column today. Writing february fifth twenty twenty three transcript twenty twenty three super bowl state farm stadium glendale arizona. Post game so now. He has some of the game. Terry bradshaw from fox says quote. Let's get dan snyder up here. Hey dan your teams turned everything around you. Hired ron rivera. Who was named coach of the year in twenty twenty one. You drafted chase young. Who was today's mvp just the tenth time in super bowl history. A defensive player is earned. The award of mvp and last year you went out and got aaron rodgers to bring it all together and you're here now with the lombardi trophy the fourth in team history and the first under your ownership. You've had to go through so much the last few years. What's it been like for you to go through all of that and now win it all on the other side so david then writes at this point waiting to hear. The answer of what snyder has gone through. If you're still a fan of the washington football team you'll have two choices. One hurl h url in the physical sense like throwing your washington football team helmet football burgundy and gold chachis in the air in celebration or to hurl in the sense of losing your burger dip pizza chips also that you inhaled during the game and it's something that my friends and i have talked about in the past like oh my god. What if they did win it in that m. f. is up there accepting the lombardi trophy. It would make a lot of people sick to their stomach. There is no doubt but for me and david writes the after explaining the two options. Maybe it's both. I think it would be both for me. I would be okay. We did it. We finally are back. Your god remember. When coach joe is up here with old. Jack can cook in bobby beth. 'red accepting lombardi trophies. Oh god but look who's up on the podium for us it. Would i think by then i think by then we would have had enough information to know that ron rivera as i projected when he was first hired had had a dot had managed to latch onto. Joe torry pat for success and had become the most powerful figure in the organization more powerful than the owner and the owner at that point would be nothing more than the figurehead. Yeah i know what you're saying but the the big difference between like a steinbrenner and a snyder is steinbrenner had won a lot. Yes he did. Yankee fans experience winning under steinbrenner before tori got there and by the way they were always i mean there were years there where they sucked but there are a lot of years there where they were contenders. You know they were still the yankees. We're not still the redskins anymore. Literally now you know but but it just hasn't been the same. But i do know how hopely hopefully for you. You'll get a chance to experience that that dilemma you. What are the odds in that dilemma. Being a real case a real life situation already ice maker not me well. I don't think they're high as long as he owns the damn. I don't think they're very healthy either. But then again. And i've said this to you before earth say made a super bowl in one one the or say family and the bid wells made a super bowl in lost one one that they nearly one you know too terribly cases in both cases the sons were running the team. No not bill bidwell. Wasn't he still alive when they lost the ebay been alive but he wasn't running the team. Steve then i think it was the younger bidwell running the team. Then yeah because the old man died in two thousand nineteen. They were in the super bowl in two thousand nine. Yeah it's it's michael bidwell. By the way i think in by the way he's he's a georgetown prep Graduate i anything else. I got nothing else for you. Got something else for you. I can't believe we didn't talk about this yesterday. What the fuck on twitter verification. They finally opened it up for twitter verification. Because you and i are not twitter verified even though many people who have comparable jobs but are but smaller followings. Let's just say for are more insignificant than us. What you're looking for a hatch actually have the blue marks and they opened it back up and you told me hey you can apply for this which you did and we were both denied yes. I don't understand that. I don't understand it either. You know. I gotta admit there's part look i i mean if i'm being completely honest of course i want to have the check but there's part of me that saying fuck the blue check. Well let me tell you that. I haven't cared one way. Or the other for a long period of time. However the radio stations that i have worked for care. And they've asked me you. Why aren't you twitter verified. You should be twitter verified. You should have a blue check and having a blue check actually leads to apparently even more followers and more importantly you get mentioned with your tweets in like broad categories. That are searched much faster than if you don't have it. There are other benefits to having it. I haven't cared at all. Tommy but i've been now told by multiple radio owners. Why don't aren't you. Twitter verified a and b. You should be and see it would benefit you and the show if you were so when you said had a benefit to any the benefits regard Include beer sex or cigars. I don't know. I mean you could try it in our conversation on july eleventh at at caddies you know you could say if you had your blue check. Hey i'm a blue check guy. What do i get here. I'm actually really thirsty. Nita smoke and by the way needs some company but neither one of us got it. That's i mean they're look. I'm not going to mention and him. I thought you would have thought you would have gotten it. I because there are people that we know you know lots of people in the market that we know that have blue checks that not just have far less like followers but just are far less in terms of like their media presence or their responsibilities media wise or anything else. they're they're peons compared to us and but they got him early on when they first got on twitter and it never occurred to me to do it. But i have so by the way over the last couple of years when radio owners have said you. You really need to try to get this done. And i've tried to get it done. They shut it down for a few years. They shut down twitter verification for a few years and then they recently opened it up. You found that out and it was a simple online application through twitter. I answered every question. And i just figured well they're gonna look at you know These various things in based on the people that they verified in the past i would. I would assume that. I would get a blue check. But i did. Not and they said you cannot reapply for another thirty days. There's there's gotta be a trick to this. There's got to be i mean if there is if there's a trick to this and only a few people know it that's a good business like somebody line that can say i can get you your blue check. it's going to cost you x. amount That would be a pretty good business. I would imagine that there's some sort of trick to the trade here that we just haven't learned 'cause you said that somebody in our business who wasn't twitter verified recently applied and shouldn't have been but he got it and we didn't. We won't mention his name. But i liked that person and i'm glad that he got twitter verified but he should not with all due respect have been twitter verified before us. Hey tommy this morning on the radio show Somebody brought up. You know she and singing. Danny boy danny boy whatever. I don't know what it was. I was about snyder. And so i tried to remember some of the lyrics and i butchered them slightly but i got. I got the major gist of it. But then i also tried to You know the movie the darkest hour you know that movie with with gary oldman about churchill. You did see that movie right. Yes i did yes. I did excellent movie right. Yes very good. Incredible for gary oldman is good. He's phenomenal anyway. there is a quote from winston churchill. Put up at the end of that movie In the quote is success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue. That counts now. I wasn't trying to remember that. It's a caller said something and i was trying to remember the churchill quote about you know And hold on. I'm looking because somebody tweeted me. The exact quote. Because i i sort of butchered that one to here it is. Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm and so However it came up in context on the show is irrelevant. My point is we have failed but we have not lost enthusiasm for the blue mark and we and now after say. Fuck the blue check. Failure is not fatal. It is our courage to continue. That counts so we need to keep replying until we get it done or we have to seek out somebody. That knows how to do this if anybody knows how to do this and can help us. Tweet me at kevin. Sheehan dc first. And then. i'll share it with tommy. Are you done. I'm done both now. Now you've got me depressed about the blue check. Oh don't be depressed. You weren't depressed before. I wasn't depressed before but we thought that there was a brief opportunity for us to finally get what many lesser people have gotten long before us. All right. everybody have a great holiday weekend. Enjoy the fourth I am off monday. The radio show. If anything significant happens. I'll be in here to do a podcast. Tommy that was awesome back days. Tommy and i also didn't tell you we had lunch together and he had no ulterior motive yesterday getting together for lunch we had a great time dundee couple of beers some good italian food and catching up on each other's lives which we haven't had a chance to do and a long time. That was fun. It was we'll do it again. Have a great weekend. Maybe back on monday probably tuesday.

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178 - LOST SOUL: THE DOOMED JOURNEY OF RICHARD STANLEY'S ISLAND OF DR. MOREAU w Sam Mickens

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178 - LOST SOUL: THE DOOMED JOURNEY OF RICHARD STANLEY'S ISLAND OF DR. MOREAU w Sam Mickens

"Having your own home is awesome. But it's also a lot of work. The good news finding help for your projects is easier than ever introducing angie the app. The puts all your home care needs at your fingertips need a pro to fix that. Emergency leak maybe find someone to build a deck or even set your seasonal tasks on autopilot. Angie can handle all that and more expert pros. Hundreds of home projects clear pricing and the easiest way to book and pay in seconds. This is angie your home for everything home. Download the app. Today i drove. And you're listening ashore. We dive into the world of documentary. Film damn talk to the musician. Sam mickens about one of his favorite films lost soul the doomed journey of richard. Stanley's island of dr moreau in this two thousand fourteen. Doc david gregory. The south up can harsh on our directors league h g wells novel in the nine hundred ninety s and some huge movie stars get attached and it is indeed a topsy turvy journey. Huge egos logistical perfect. Storms and even witchcraft. In part in this tale of hubris art versus commerce and pyromaniac dog men and our guests is sam mickens. A native angelino musician writer multidisciplinary artist and now present headed programming for another world is possible. Welcome to subject. Sam thank you george. It's great to see. Yeah it's great running into you. We talked a while ago about this very film and then just took reconnecting. And i also wanted to bring on to kind of explain what another world is possible is to our listeners. 'cause i think it'd be a very much of interest to anyone who likes this show people that like nonfiction filmmaking. Journalism streaming services and comedy. Yeah well yeah. I mean on the film george. I think since i had when i first became aware of your podcast. I think i wanted to talk about this movie. I don't know why but this movie just really resonated. When i i saw thought several years ago whenever like around when it first came out i think you know i watched it two or three times because i just found something about it so you know captivating and also just very entertaining on some very unexpected based kind of levels So i'm very excited to talk with you about it and obviously also in the time since we might have. I talked about it. A lot has happened in richard. Stanley's life for sure. yes but But yeah if you do do you do want to hear about another world is possible. George do you wanna talk about that for sure. Yeah i was gonna say like the the the genre of this film that we're talking about. If you like like generosities dune that's another thing where it's like. Hey these these divisions for this thing that went awry and the story of something that never got made. There's also this. Death of superman lives right with ever seen about nicholas cage tim burden superman. I never. i never saw the dock. But i've i've read and heard quite a bit about that project as well fighter and yeah it's this genre of like you know. Here's some sketches. Here's something that didn't happen but it's already a fiction. It's a nonfiction film to a meta fictional thing. 'cause it's a fictional film that never got made so it's like all the basic ideas for making fictional film and a documentary about well. It could have been this right even wilder this gets wilder than some of those. Actually sure i mean it it also it kind of becomes its own genre right. Because i don't think that. Richard stanley island of dr moreau or the Dune would have ever been made in any way i mean. They're it's like the things they wanted to do. It's like they're cool and fascinating and stuff but like you know with with with your ask is dan. I don't know if you guys have done already. Some of the things some of the things that he claims and he's like yeah. And then i was going to be in it because i got him a chef and jagger and he was going to be in it. And you're like. I don't know if all of this was really going to happen So they're both kind of these things about these creators who like these very visionary weird You know yeah and and very super inspired about the material right But you know in watching the document both of those documentaries. I think You kind of. It's it's clear to you that these guys were never going to be able to make these projects anyway. One way or another. And this is why i was a little bit worried about tying into talking about another world is possible if you are like kind of doing something that i view as semi utopian image so to explain. I know you from music while you're like. Hey i'm building a twenty four hour streaming platform for like leftists political content. And i'm like how how. How does this all work like he talk through kind of how you got to this from. Sure show yeah. Yeah absolutely so. So my wife sue laying Was the first person kind of working on this on this project. And the i kinda seed founder And then you know we have kind of a skeleton crew a founding team of folks that have been working on it now for in some cases you know a year and a half And we're very excited and we're and we're looking to launch later this year across multi-platform so basically you know anywhere that people stream stuff anywhere that people watch content. That's not a regular cable television. It will be kind of everywhere that people find things and yeah over the summer. We're doing A series of kind of soft launch or bands were during a series of events with nina turner. Which we're very excited about. Everybody should support nina in her primary on august third and things stuff with politicians act. Yeah yeah so yeah so. It's the the kind of the overall Vision of the channel is as he said laughed but also just kind of independent non non corporate news politics and culture basically so a lot of the day's programming is going to be kind of political stuff panels talking heads journalists news that that hopefully people can come to as their regular the people that want to just turn channel on and see what's happening can can come here as the news channel you know but then also doing a lot of different kinds of cultural programming In late night on the weekends and doing stuff with tim. Hyde occur and Pound brian back. All those kinds of folks and a bunch other folks were doing some curated film. Programmes doing some Other music programming. And so it's going to be kind of you know It is really trying to federate and consolidate a lot of really truly disparate voices. That are all kind of hopefully moving towards the same kind of broader humanist principles which for us you know often is are left principles. But they're really kind of more basic human than that you know. I'm of thinking of you. Know the other precedents for this type of thing and like it come. Air america comes to mind. And i'm like you know i never really understood like the financial backing aspect of someone like air america. Are you commissioning like you're actually going to have like a production studio for like news content and like journalists actually doing like coverage reporting in based in l. a. or is it more like it's way more wise. It's more decentralized janette especially at this at this stage daniel on your shirt daniels. I've got the daniel smell shirt on. Yeah it's yeah at this point. It's it's our goal is to be kind of a lot more decentralized than that though so but we are producing original content with different folks in different cities in different journalists that we really like and respect and working with the gravel institute they. They're opening a studio new york and we'll definitely work with them on a lot of stuff. So yeah it's a. It's a combination At the outset a combination of some original programming that were super excited about some. You know movies docs and other stuff like that. And then we are also carrying some Non-exclusive stuff that people might already be aware of on youtube browse. Wear programs that exist. But we're we're putting them into the into the grid and kind of trying to you know build everyone up by juxtaposition to each other and interesting way 'rational. Yeah for sure and launching labor day. Is that likely. I'll be able to get it on roku but my head of roku our it's going to be in september or you know it it'll be It'll be soon it's coming very soon. We were dealing with. There are distributors and dealing with all the technology and building stuff out. And it's you know. Obviously george we've known each other for a long time and i've slept in your apartments on pizza boxes. Yeah so you know. It's it's a big. It's a big project for us. Or who'd strapping. Strong bootstrapping it. Yeah but but yeah. We're really excited. And everything is you know. miraculously kind of come into place. And and we're looking good. So yeah i mean we're we're targeting september launch. Yeah i think they over. Yeah the day this is out. Is this monday. So i think you're a big l. A. event will have just happened. Actually it'll be actually on next our next event. Is airing on monday. It's airing on monday. Okay so the same same dennis drops you can actually go to. Another world is possible dot com and watch this program which has yet to be recorded. But you've got musicians. You got brent winebox you've got other. Yeah they counsel people you said Yeah we're very excited. It's called it's called another world is possible l. a. form. We're taping it on saturday at a friend's clothing factory in in vernon in south. La really awesome space and yet so it's it's kinda half townhall and political forum and then and then half kind of variety show folks that are that are connected to the channel so so yeah there's a bunch of musicians Brand dick medians There's a strong man and then we have. We have some some hosts that that were that are working with us and we have a group of afford local candidates so we have Maybe a girl who's running for congress Fatty mike balls bear. Who's running for a state assembly. And then al. Corrado and brian odegaard both running for the la city council. So it'll be very heady mix of stuff but we're we're we're excited. It's heartening to hear that. There is a leftist bodybuilding. Seen or strongman scene. It's well it'll be interesting to go back. It goes back to the longshoremen. I imagine it's well. yeah well. Interestingly he's he's actually an advocate In a pretty white collar union space but he He's jacked strong man. Do truly remarkable feats of strength so exactly like you know like we. We need like a left. David blaine or something some well. Not david blaine. Maybe and i'll just as a side thing dini dini a lot of documentary filmmakers. Actually listen to this program so if they wanted to get in touch with you and pitch something for the channel. Would that be something. You'd be open to sure absolutely. Yeah we're as. I said we're doing original stuff and creating some original duck stuff but we're also licensing a lot of a lot of things for the channel and Yeah absolutely they can. People can reach me a salmon. Another world is possible dot com nice. I'll be there all right. Yeah that's sure be. He's our he's our mascot. I live on an island of crazy animals to sam. I've never watched the the the one thousand nine hundred ninety six island. dr moreau. Have you seen it i have. It's pretty bad pretty. But but you know i think what you what you feel in this documentary or what. This documentary would perhaps. Perhaps it's viewpoint would be that. We lost out on a much more exciting. You know thrillingly weird and bad bad or good just weird version you know and on tour. Yeah we we didn't have an autour version of no it's just nuts and bolts. Get it done shot list. Frankenheimer yelling at people whatever yeah the the final version. It's it's actually country kinda boring. I mean there's some really especially after watching the this doc. There's some pretty fantastically inao spreading kind of moments from both marlon brando. Val kilmer. There's some really really like awesome bad slash strange acting moments in That's all i kind of my impression. I went in kind of blind in this in that. I've not seen this completed film. I had not seen any of richard stanley's early films and there some stuff that you know after watching this then. I did a little googling and supplies the prize. Richard stanley very abusive to ex partner. Who was actually his co. writer and he had kind of come back in the scene two years ago you had just reemerged. Yeah he done. Color out of space ryan. I think his his former partner who He had been abusive to was co writer colorado space. I also think david gregory who made this is has a production producer. Credit on colorado's space makes sense. He got pretty close to stanley. And making this. I imagine i did whatever energy. This documentary created probably led to his ability to reemerge. Do that right. I mean yeah. I also felt like it seemed like mandy. I don't know what exactly. I'm line of all. This was but it felt like the success and whatever of mandy kind of maybe paved that way as well right. So yeah the the company that may color space made mandy also and it's elijah woods company. And then basically. Her name is embarrass scarlets. I should double scarlet terrell embarrassed. She you know pointed this out on twitter and then the production company behind colorado space just like cut ties with stanley after that but yeah he does color. When i watched this the stakes did not the stakes did feel like somewhat in the sense that like you know there's a lot of people's lives livelihoods we're tied into this. But it feels grocer knowing all this stuff about richard stanley now it. I'm sure yeah. I mean for me. It was interesting. Re i re watched at this week because i hadn't seen it in a few years. It was re watching it. And you know. I wouldn't say that i ever found stanley to be like An extremely sympathetic character. Exactly right but i think there was more sympathy for him. Probably my i. I don't i i. I think that this time. I mean i still have sympathy for him as a creator in this ridiculous situation but but But this was definitely way more keyed into just how like some of the visual signifier of just how crazy is like this time. I was really keen on his mat like beside of his mouth. Unlike when he's older he has like a weird spill and weird stuff. And you're like seems like you know. He's pretty unhinged and it's not like he. That's not clear in the movie right. He says he says my mother was a witch and she gave me this totally chaotic lives. And it's great or whatever and you know. I feel like i. I'm sure you've known some folks george. Were like trying to think of exactly how to put this. But you know who are more in this like magic. You know in like magic with a k. Eight man witchcraft. But like not in a like deep meaningful way more affectation kind of like you know what i mean so i feel like I feel like richard is well his affect and the reality of what he says both seemed kinda back. Yeah i feel like it's it borders on this thing of kind of like you know. We're talking about like alister crowley recently. I'm reading about crowley but this sort of like it's libertarian. In this sense right. It's like this completely like solid. Cystic kind of a view of of like whatever i want is the way things will go. And that's kind of i think coming through. There's that that edge of the spiritual magic delving that you can get into or just a little bit like just being purely contrary in which i think you get a little bit of that and i mean knowing knowing about selling out. I'd also like totally sympathize with him. But i was like well. He has a vision and he's being stomped on by these money. People and like in a sense like side. There's part of me that just sides with that part of not having in my initial viewing of this. That was like my instinct year or like. I'm just going to bulk. That's just my. I thought she was a character. You know that was kind of my go-to iras I mean look. I have a lot of affection for for feroza from various roles in vibes of the past. And but she seems pretty she also seems pretty insane yannis documentary and seems like she had some kind of a really intensely embroiled relationship creative thing with stanley and is yeah was is is really going to bat for stanley in this doc. Oh god but then yeah. But i feel both richard stanley by roosevelt. And i'm sure if marlon brando or val kilmer had had been in the documentary. They would have done the same lake. Say-so many things like tell on themselves as just really pretty crazy people in so many ways. Right i drive to edney like it. Da across the contract is like. I don't remember how i got there. I just like like she was like she was in a few state or something and she got this. Random australian crew guide alike driver across the continent and then she aim to. It's like no i. I certainly don't stand in judgment anybody's mental health stuff at all. But i feel like it. it undermines some of the the narratives that they're trying to kind of cling to it. Sometimes there's also like as of this moment. There is a kind of a vacuum renaissance happening and he is painted as like an arch avila and in this kind of more than brando because he is he's portrayed as like being intentionally disruptive or his brand like kind of in this weird his. He's lost his daughter. He's like always has for work for everything all the time and like val kilmer at this moment is like coming off that man. But now i think we're in this reevaluating kilmer thing and like i had had not heard some these stories about like thou humor like intentionally lighting. Someone's hair on fire with cigarette. Weird bully like freakish behavior has said. I believe there's an interview he did with like the new york times magazine or something where he's like. Yes no. I work with these people all day long. Why would i intentionally burn anyone. That was not like it was an accident. Like that's his a. I don't really believe that either. I mean that's the thing. Though i love i love out too. But it's also just the legendary monster you know. Thousand monster brand does a monster. Richard stanley richard. Sanely really. this story is just the weakest of these. Yeah yes monsters. That's a good point. Yeah like he's like disposable. Apparently he's completely disposable character. Yeah i mean it's it's wild. Do you wanna talk more about the the the plot kind of such as it is sure. Yeah because it's like yeah. I i also have never watched any other version of dr moreau. I just remember that the nelson the guy in the crazy makeup. Who's like the smallest man in the world. It was just. I was like i did not understand. Brando was like keen to like. He's like this. He'll be like the star of this movie. This guy. yeah no all. I really remember thing watching it again. Now i feel like val kilmer still seems like just like a total jerk monster but brando kind comes off like the coolest person in this whole scenario because brand bill kind of has the right attitude and he's like my favorite thing. This time watching. It was the thing where like he likes. Sits down with fire ball fires box. Hey let's talk about our characters and marlins listen. This is all nonsense. Nobody cares about any. There's all bullshit just you look great. You beautiful just have fun. It doesn't matter. I didn't read the script. i guess. Cool man i mean marlon brando also definitely heard a lot of people monster whatever but like i would say the the You know val kilmer might be in more of a brandish place in his life now. But i feel like at that point. Brando's brand new brand comes out on. Top is the only entertaining part of that final product of that money. Really so i feel like like what val kilmer going back. I have not seen the val kilmer. you know. It's all self documented. Haven't seen it hasn't come out yet right. i think it's in theaters. I wanna see it or notice about drp. Yeah like the story. I've read about like he should have been a character actor but he was just too good looking and he just made him the star of everything. It's like no. He was like a character actor. The doing like method doing suzuki like being like not breaking character off camera the whole time and it's just like the tragedy is just so good looking. They had to make him the lead in everything they had to make him. Batman he right this. I've heard this narrative. I think he would have been a jerk even if he was but i do think it's true that and just crazy i mean this whole thing. I mean you if you read that. That profile right is whole saying his christians the christian science with his throat cancer. And he thinks you know he's like he's obviously in kind of a semi eldest place at this moment. Right yeah But but again yeah. He's great and he was. I mean the things. I think that we mostly love and remember about about kilmer. Are his most weird character. Things right like commended level. He definitely committed yet. You can definitely say that. About val kilmer terrible batman I mean that whole what. Are you going to do what you can do. These men there. There's everyone gets a chance to play batman. I feel like you could play batman. Thank you appreciate that. You have kind of a robin like aesthetic. But also i could see his wing. Yeah i like no way. I'm too old now. But you gotta dye the hair blah. Hey i'm thinking about being bain. Let's throw to this clip. Where i love like it's true like richard stanley a warlock if ever there was an outsourcing warlock because he he he he says he's a sufi is he's also sufi but he says he's a sufi warlock some kind yeah. He is about to have this meeting with brando and he needs to go well because he knows he's basically they could replace him at any moment before. Shootings even started So they're already determining that he's insane and unreliable. Yea like yeah. Yeah so. This is a clip of justice. Example of richard stanley's way of problem solving that point in time i was friendly with this chubby in england at dr edward james featherstone commonly known as skip so it bid sean to demonstrate his ability to fix things to do invisible mending before. So i said my god skip. You've got to help me. Because i saved my movie at the exact same time that went into the meeting on the other side of the world skip convenience covering drissa. Joel did some kind of routine to fix it. make it all right simultaneously. I was driven with the big old limo. That was probably the contract. 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This is angie your home for everything home. Download the app today sam. You'd actually since. I had not even seen the island of doctor moreau there so many things whereas just like rumour is in this. I'm like i. My personal vision is like someone. Some agents is just like a doctor. Dr moreau got that guy. He played a doctor. Northern exposure rob mara. Shut like it was purely like a. Who's on first booking of all he wouldn't he wouldn't have been playing miro though he's the he's the like on new guy. I don't remember his name. But he's the guy that comes the island and discovers jonathan harker harvey. Yeah the characters that they've the actors they've picked. This firstly bruce willis. Then just like. Oh we can't get bruce willis. Why not rob moro. Like nut knows clarity at all lifestyle. Ed makes no sense and then from romeo up to david theophilus. Who you'd think would be down you think feelers. It'd be down to be in this. I mean that not that suicide and they don't even they don't even acknowledge him like maher. Also morrow i don't know what was going on in his life at the time of this document. They shot documentary but he looks like very haunted. He looks like iraq. A little like stressed out still to be talking about this. Yeah i love that big juxtaposed kind of like what he says was someone else being like. Hugh is freaking out useful. And he's like yeah. I felt a little. I felt like it was not going well. And i wanted to get on my contract. And she was like crying. He wanted to come on the air he. He's in this documentary. Of course the new line guy. The new line guy lizard. Bob shaye man. He's a fascinating fascinating figures. A new line documentary is their thing. Well i've mostly seen him before in a really long Freddie documentary that's about the whole series goes through like every each instalment But it's like four hours long or something. New line like owned owned the blockbuster. Vhs aisles like back in the day they were like they were the thing they had a real moment. Yeah they were the the bloom house of their day and they did some great stuff. I mean they did a lot of terrible stuff. But there's more trauma and like it's not like kids like definitely like they're you know i didn't remember that they did wag the dog or anything like that but i remember that was the sign. If you saw new line logo in for somethin' ironically also miramax back then was kind of someone and Speaking of monsters real monsters and okay. Let's talk about some monster cost ships. Let's be an extra in australia. You know the the fact that okay so many things don lady was one of the best one of the main documentary all-stars right. Yeah no. She's great salaries also just like the kind of party scene because like the filming get stopped so many times a the weather be like stanley replaced. Like all these things and then they're just kind of trapped like in this like dorm. It's sort of like you've heard stories about the munchkins on the sets of wizard vase having these dismal shit and go back and yeah i think also also the the have you seen that herzog move even dwarfs started small I know i should have have not. It's it's great but there's a long time ago. I watched it with the commentary with hers commentary and he's talking about it a lot and yet they shot it all on this small kind of in a similar way to island dr. I guess shot on this really remote like small canada island and it was just this cast of all dwarfs of all No little people the various ages and whatever the whole the whole movie and And yeah he said it was just like an insane fuck fast like major in and they were all like hooking up with all these weird local fishermen and it was just like a total. You know yeah lesson but yeah the people. The the animal extras the beast man. Beast person extras on moreau. Yeah they the picture. The talk shows is and this is something that people that are like whatever work in production might be somewhat familiar with bed to an extreme degree of just like so much waiting around for days and weeks and weeks and like getting into the makeup every day in the assumption that they're going to shoot something but not so then. Yeah they're just partying in their insane. These men get up just like drinking smoking smoking. We you know The sal lady talks about like she was just partying in that Nelson the smallest man alive was like always propositioning her and it. Just you know seems like quite a quite a hang if you were there for those for those six months or whatever. Yeah i've been an extra and like the costuming nowhere near the level this but yeah it is completely waiting around just. I wasn't even getting put up in a hotel or anything. But like i guess because of the locations kinda had to have people i imagine going to work. It's just like you know the old warner brothers cartoons like you know the the dog and the cat like checking in like clocking. Yeah literally a dog man. Yeah and then. Of course. I mean i don't know i don't know if this is jumping ahead but one of the most incredible aspects of this whole story. Yes is what what richard does after. He's let go from the picture. Yeah yeah it really was like oh this is good storytelling 'cause it was like a trail off. And then he just enters back. In fact i gotta give credit to i to say like you're not the first person is really told me i have to watch this like dana. Gould really wanted to do this too. And i it's just like it really takes like a good amount of turns like in the beginning i was kind of. I don't think. I actually want to see richard stanley's version dr moreau based on some of his like comic depictions of story morning. Yeah historic it. Seems very. He's very very focused on beasts person childbirth like. It's a real like he's really focused on. It is like so many so much concept dard and like they shot a scene deleted scene and stuff. He's so yeah. It seems like there's a lot of richard psyche. That probably would have come out in unpleasant ways. Yeah ultimately if he completed this film. I mean like like do you think okay. So what do you think like richard. Stanley's what is his fatal flaw. That he's just too weird to deal with hollywood or he got saddled with huge budgets and huge stars and he couldn't just make like a small budget version of this. Like what do you think the fatal on top of like apparently him being kind of a monster reality right. I mean. I feel a little bit under qualified to discuss some of this. Just i are also have not seen richard. I'm not like a stanley head. This is my whole thing with richard stanley. Really is this documentary. I haven't seen hardware dust devil right those early south african ones which are supposed to be cool and very low budget but which is just to say. I don't know what his vision actually looks like when he does it. You know but You know it's basically like. I feel like he was trying to again. Hers is is like he's trying to do like some insane. Her zog type movie like sits kerala type movie but with like totally normal hollywood system behind him and all these massive actors which is just like. They're never gonna let you do that. I mean what at the big. What are the examples. Hollywood did or or even continued when when things like spiral out of control. It's like heaven's gate or whatever whatever the famous massives flops or whatever but you know i think it's just he wanted to do something way weirder than that amount of money. Whatever except you wanted to make like yeah like a sort of a budget film. Yeah but like the film. That's kinda films argument right. There's like the documentaries argument is like he should have just been left alone to make something with like probably at the level right right or something. Yeah oh yeah. I like getting someone cage type person of that moment right like. That's the argue like like. The hollywood is very anti hollywood system for and fair enough as you said that part of it is easy to sympathize with right part of it makes makes a richard a little bit more of a an appealing protagonist or whatever and the in the dock underdog in the snark literally an underdog later. Because yes like okay you still. You still should watch this and we're going to talk about what's going to happen like the right. He's he's banned from the set he's like they paid me my fee to go away plane ticket out often a lot of australia but he like skips the flight. Yeah there's like there's like one of those all those like partier hardy. Australian crew members are so cool too but like one of those dudes was supposed to like make sure like physically on plane using he. Finally richard richard disappeared for a period of weeks or months or whatever. Yeah and then he sort of rediscovered by this this all. The extras are kind of all the b. Also by the way the guy who teaches them how to move like an animal great like he does the the howler monkey he's got a bit of a guffman yes-men energy and some of those scenes that guy that guy roles to he's got as as does digital guy it's like. There is a fraction of this. That is like literally. Like i don't know the plot of the the the the beast people are like you know subservient to to moreau and his daughter right on the island so like all. The extras are kind of like living. This out as well like there's sort of this subservient lower class. Yeah yeah just like smoking all day and like insane hot pig makeup and so like they here tale of this guy in in the outback like muttering to himself about how he was how hollywood destroyed him or whatever and they have richard then then they find him and then this is our lady says though is that like going going troppo. It's like it's like he just like he just went nuts in the spirit of the. It's like the same kind of what. Colonel kurtz right. They take a lot about kurds and brando and at age related all. Yeah he's related to. He's a stanley. Like the character. Kurtz is based on his like great grandfathers also dark and maybe you know. Probably some some epa genetic darkness in the stanley line. I would guess colonial shit again. I don't in judgment of that but yeah but Yeah i would also be curious. I don't know. I don't really know where richard is on. You know. brace frankly. I mean i don't know how as that like south african of a certain age whose great grandfather was like. Colonel kurtz from heart of darkness who knows. There's a lot there. There's a lot dig into knows but anyway yeah So so so. Richard has gone fully farrell. He's just living out in the jungle. In like i assume doing we're trying to do weird. Plant drugs whatever whatever's gone on. and then. yeah he's rediscovered by the extras. Because now the extras like. They've sprawled out there like their way. You know a monster makeup. A beach party has just continued in sprawled brought so much that they're like living along the river and stuff and so yeah they just they he just he just wandered up and And reenters their ranks. Yeah and then. They're like smuggling him on to set and this is like technically like he has a restraining order against in being on this set right. I love this line. I i'll just. I'm just going to throw this clip. Like where like. He is infiltrated the set. And let's just play change in the van so no known so sore. Emily and we will ask satellite costumes. Latex face masks and everything and like i mean we sat there and he's my one big fan joint good luck and the way he went in and the merged into the people got so hot we were working so i was trying to give them breaks as often as i could and they would pull the head back drinks water and there was this guy one of them was never ask kept watching him and he would never take his head off and i thought what the guy's nuts you know i i was. I was starting to think. Well he's gonna just die a three hundred extras in this ten. My richard one taking his moscow. He was the bulldog man and he was discreet. Job of jumping around during this weird stuff and i went to see was really great. I thank you. I really enjoyed watching you. It was a nice job into these. He said well thank you and he had completely different accent than anybody else does wonder and think once that room started that the richest handling was in the background that i think that just grew into sort of stories about which is stanley been wanting to sabotage shoe the moment that really that is kind of brilliant light crystallizes this really great moment in for the doc or whatever right is when he's like you know he's like and then i realized like i had completed a full arc from moreau to the beast man like he was like i was the creator of the director of this whole saying and now i'm just a lowly beast man extra sweating underdog dog mass. Yeah and he's like. Has this weird like psychic realization. It's like it's intense. It's happening married creation. That is like that is genuinely beyond like it's not like showing up on david lynch's said or anything. Which would have been sick if you ski. Had gotten under a bunch of crazy makeup shown up on the set of david lynch's do would have been cool. Actually yeah he was the man are you and like i think i'm not a big hoorah guy either. I think david gregory has made us doing a little reading. He's done other films about horror films and that seems to and he's a more guy and he comes out of the horror film world so i think there is some stuff about this doctor. Feel like you know like little like the recreation of all the witchcraft. And things like that. They feel a little like budget. A little like janki. But i mean i think he really he did a pretty good job of hooking into this thing and like sympathizing with this with this kind of monster stewed. Yeah it's just like a battle of of batty goes between like val kilmer. but it's like an operatic. I mean these are like some majorly bad egos like bad behaved like crazy. Movie stars right like it doesn't get much more extreme than a marlon brando in that in that area right. Yeah all the all the all the kind of like the hollywood exact people. It's kind of funny. How those lines get drawn to like super like. I believed in him. Some people are like nah the moment he was just like. I wanted four sugars and i'm like this disguise nut i'm like come on. What the fuck does that. That's about shea. And that was like. Also just the most contrarian like old hollywood yesterday sugar. So you're out of this business. He was like. I don't know as soon as he asks for. Three or four sugars. i was like this guy's goofy. This isn't gonna work out. You know like he asked for. And i was just like yeah done. You're done in this town Odd but Yeah i mean. I just don't really see the dock itself obviously is pretty kind of bear bonds and stuff but i feel like the the people that he got to talk and the and the actual stories are just so wild and so compelling. Don't think you have to be like a genre fan to get something out of watching this like. Yeah 'cause it's just like it's like we love to see messi we love to see a messy like a situation like someone who's just like i think hubris is kind of the key to this whole thing right like and i and that is the theme of wells' story right. I mean la odd documentary kind of tries to play at right. And that's why. I feel like that moment of richard saying i'd completed the arc from monroe to the dog man. Or whatever you know because yeah obviously. The content is the Subject they were all dealing with in the brand and read the script or whatever Mir a lot in in the behavior of some of these figures of richard. And that's you know some of the other ones. Yeah the anarchy. The kind of lord of the flies elements the kind of. I guess i would didn't even talk about their. So if only david villas have been replaced with james james gilmer genius man. Yeah and vow was supposed to be the young guys And the if it had been woods brando vow. I feel like this movie would be even better right if you had james woods. Just be for sure just just a different level of of all sorts. You truly getting into some like lovecraft and horror at that point also like lovecraft like i'm just like oh another problematic person like yeah colorado space conrad. Of course i mean heart of darkness itself. Which you know. It's good book but it's disgusting. I'm just thinking if it's your crowd listening to this like we have to address all these things colonial elements absol- of this stuff. Absolutely i did not. I don't in any way. Endorse the Character or actions of richard stanley's ancestor. Colonel kurtz richard stanley in france Even or sofia coppola or like or the winery a weirdly val kilmer and coppola. There's this weird. They made a movie together. I've never seen it. And then like dan deacon was involved And so there's this this actually video of it. And i think i talked about this before. But there's a dandy feature ireland's show at like perr space. Val kilmer is there like he like. He was hanging out with dan. Deacon pizzas for all these people at perez space. And you kind of start emceeing the show like in character. He's a character like which character. That's mark twain. Now he's like he's mark twain. He's like his twain is that's a. That's a better saying that. He's either a motivational speaker. Or he is came from like a multilevel marketing thing. He's doing he's doing a bit doing a bit he's he's doing a bit going days. There is a pasi pasi foul right. There's a bazi core val kilmer in there and like isn't that in that makes people it would have to be a pasi corvallis. Kilmer christian scientist is being optimistic. I mean i was wondering about how many helmets anti vaccine. I mean like do criticize. It's cannot believe in vaccines right. That's part of it you wouldn't you wouldn't vaccines. I just let it let it take. I don't want to speak for there may be there may be You know different Derogations of christian science that embraced different aspects. But yeah i don't think so. I don't think. I think the essence of it is you would not believe in in vaccines and yeah. But i can't picture really a pasi. Stanley a pasi or stanley. It'd be like get what i want. That's basically the positive. Richard stanley is just getting what you want and then just having wide is glaring into a camera and being like the clear the demigods deemed it. So yeah i mean yeah. I don't know i. I don't know richard stanley. I think a lot of crazy people and crazy creative people and people that are like you know. Have some schizophrenia or severe bipolar. Whatever richard stanley might be dealing with. You know i think they do have lots. They do have fun and good and charismatic and appealing times and they have monstrous times right. So i'm sure there's a fun richard stanley that people liked at some point. Some of the people. In this. I mean fire russo. Liked him fucking loves him man. I'll ruin my career for this guy as she was ready. Just like destroy her career. For richard stanley's vision or whatever which is like So there's gotta be something there. Something appealing about him in some ways you know like like he definitely this guy who could have been in comics also. It seems like that's kinda comics turn. It seems like a place where you can just be. Seemed like he really should have just been doing comics. That's kind of my sense from from the how into the story boarding. He was and stuff. Just a lot of splash pages. Yeah extreme childbirth. I'm trying to think of an animal. That i'd be okay with like okay are they. Okay have you seen it. Do they start out. His animals started his people or are they genetic no no no. No they're all. They're all genetic modifications where that that the doctor has created in on a test tube. They're all they're all animals that have been given human qualities to different including fire rosa. Who's like secretly a panther lady or whatever they Yeah they're all animals that had been genetically modified to be given some or a lot of human characteristics. They're all you know genetic experiments that's the doctor moreau thing. Yeah and then. There's some rules right. There's some roles like like is it just like don't is it like animal. Animal kingdom definitely gay nightclub as rule. Yeah no. I think he'll kill brando. I think the wild. But i haven't I haven't read the book or seen the any of the adaptations in a long time. But i think there is some stuff about like the laws laws or they have their own kind of you know the the whole thing is it's like he's a new god and a new creator in a new garden of eden hypothetically but it's all monstrous in warped but it's like you know he's trying to create a new and better society right that's like richard stanley right and all that concept art. That's why saying i. His vision of moreau is just funny again because with apocalypse now they like had this vision of kurtz and brandon just shows up super fat and bald. Okay let's do it this way you know and then get this one. I think he had this whole vision right because he could all the drawings. He's very like jesus like looks like the what's his name. The fa- father source family. You know it's just like giant flowing beard long hair and like a new age. You're kinda of energy which is obviously not what marlon brando with bhutto makeup and man alive and you know as i mean but again. It's been of more entertaining. Shit show really. It sounds like it's like it's like it's like the completed product it like. It should have been. And as i said the best parts i think if i again it's been a while but i remember them best in most entertaining in stimulating parts of the final product. All being the stuff that marlon brando through in literally just to fuck with people right. because that's what's clear. The doc is like brandon. I don't fuck like two of my kids have killed. Themselves are killed each other. And i'm just like you know. Richard yeah. I can't have sex with richard pryor anymore. It's like you know he's like he's been through so much he's like so crazy at this point As like that he end. He's just at such a point as career clearly that he can just purely fuck with everybody. Fuck with the whole thing. But but i guess you know as some kind of testament to some part of marlon brando. Genius him just fucking with people is better than all of the stuff that everybody else created on purpose. Right the scenes where it's like him and nelson like he's playing piano and nelson's playing like a little closer the coolest weirdest things in the movie are just the brando. Yeah you know. I'm only having two weeks. I gotta get this done now. I hate to like thai. I actually love to tie it back in so as someone who is also trying to create a new worlds. Another world is like doc tomorrow right. You're right like like so. There should have been more progressive policies on the island. Well i mean. I wouldn't say that the channel or my personal vision of a better world involves beast people test tubes and creating creating these these nobis on now armed security guards and like yeah hierarchy just a new god hierarchy let. We're not gonna have that in another world now is not going to be. There's no there's no food no puto makeup. Like we'll see sam and look a times than i can remember but the way to go. You can't go way. It's the only acceptable way to go. Because you cannot go. The other way no But i would say another world is possible. There's no kurtz or moreau figure. In in in in the channels projected teacher hd wells not a utopian dystopia in but out again. Sam thank you for bringing this bat is. Let's say just bat shit movie is just a badly you know. Give me shit do over. Somebody's head betcha. Yeah i we really frankenheimer d- in here and try to make sense of this all again. Let's promote like i. Also you have music up on band camp. You have music stuff as well. You can check out. Sam mickens band camp and let's talk about again. Another world is possible is going to be on demand and streaming channel on. Yeah it'll be able or no cable in the work though platforms right against. Yeah it's all the all a any streaming platform roku apple tv etcetera etcetera etcetera news content documentary nonfiction entertainment. A music programmer. And like if you've got a documentary and you wanna beyond this new thing. Get sam in this one area. And i want to be very clear george. I don't want. I don't want these words be misconstrued in this very one specific area. Yes i am like the doctor moreau. You're going to be otherwise hybrid izing. You are hybrid izing like you're taking all these disparate elements and trying to make them live together. Sure yeah another bothell You can go to. Another world is possible. Dot com on most socials. It's a whip. Tv youtube dot com slash. Another one's possible. You can see. The event did last week with nina turner and bunch of other incredible people you day drop the new one today. You can see the forum with all of these incredible people in the local candidates so yeah if which switch everything twitch twitch twitch as well all right thanks so much sam mickens and good luck with everything. I'll be following along. Thank you charge. I'll be. I'll be in the dog mask in the background of your life baby. Okay well take it off once in a while. I have some water. Can't live that way. 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Episode 160: Securing Coverage and Payment for Your Innovative Medical Device: Advice from the Experts

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Episode 160: Securing Coverage and Payment for Your Innovative Medical Device: Advice from the Experts

"Welcome to the midtech. Talk podcast as i mentioned before i started hosting some webinars featuring an expert panel on a timely topic as part of the med tech. Talk digital discussion series. This podcast episode consists of the most recent panel discussion from that series. If you're interested in seeing these exclusive conversations live or on demand please check out. Midtech conference dot com for more information. Thanks for listening. And i hope you enjoyed this episode. Welcome it's a pleasure today to be hosting This panel One of the most important topics that bases are industry. I think as we all know. It's complex sometimes we i'd say arcane but It's really critical to understanding Reimbursement and getting a positive coverage payment for any music. Top new technology and importantly had articulate that To dental investors and also had to execute up to your plan. And we you know we look across our midtech sector. It's easy to find examples where positive coverage payment enabled the growth of new technology. But also how changes or delays or even denials of coverage of stifled even killed a new technologies. So we're really lucky today to have a three people who are really going to help us guide to guide you through understanding reimbursement. They all have a vast amount of experience though from very different perspectives. In helping companies again new therapies paid. For and i'm going to let each them introduce themselves but very briefly david gregory from the consulting firm baker tilly which was also very nice to sponsor this so webinar john dorsey from The advocacy group met in mary. Hayley who heads up currently Reimbursement efforts it relieving but also has a tremendous experience a number of neural networks. But what i'd like to do. I is have each a spend a little more time introducing themselves and let's start off with you David if you don't mind sure yeah. Thanks jeff looking forward to a A terrific terrific panel for sure so as yet said. I'm a principal in healthcare industry leader for for baker tilly. And we're at top ten professional services firm with a robust healthcare consulting group. And i i sit and lead that healthcare consulting group and one of the main things we do is facilitate reimbursement and coverage for the life. Sciences industry med tech biotech. We do some farm work as well. Although i know today's Panel topic is more focused on attack. We've we've been Toiling in this space for twenty years pluses. I know the other panelists have as well and as jeff said just really looking forward to a to interactive presentation and hopefully you come away with a couple of helpful tips tips to to get you across the finish line with regard to reimbursement To happen to be aboard today. Thanks david. Mary wanted to go next. Caine thanks and welcome. Everybody and as david mentioned. I'm also very much looking forward to productive discussion today by way of background. Currently with the relevant med systems in we are a med device company in the sign space but have had several years long history. Shall we say more of the vintage type experience here with reimbursement sell looking forward to hopefully being able to share some experiences and hopefully walk away with good insight today so welcome everybody into shun. Thank you jeff. An you everyone for joining today's webinar. As jeff indicated my name is shawn. Dorsey and i am the executive director of adamant assault and so adamant as organization represents medical device makers and the cell specifically caters to the needs of our small mid sized companies which comprise the majority of our membership in the context of today's webinar. Note that i've been in my executive director for the past six months but prior to that spent about forty plus years at abdomen. Another three plus at ophthalmology association doing payment policy work primarily in the context of medicare reimbursement so really happy to have opportunity to be with you all today to talk about these very important topics and help. Everyone able is able to get something good out of this webinar. Great thanks to shun Should say there is a chat. Function available to submit questions will either try to answer them during the course of the presentation But certainly will leave some time at the end as well and what we thought would be really helpful. Actually up the discussion going is to get kind of kramer on the. Abc's of reimbursement particularly as it concerns medicare to start with in the. Sean may be. I'll have you take us through that. I'm going to ask a both married david to to chime in sure so thank you jeff and We thought it was important. Just to set the stage for today's discussion. By having a brief overview of really conceptually what coverage coating 'em payment entails. And as we generally talk about reimbursement reimbursement involves all three of those prompts coverage coating 'em payment and so the real beginning of that is the coating process and really what is coat nothing more than an alpha numeric identifier that's assigned by a government pay or private payer to identify services being provided to a patient and when we think about codes we think about the different types of codes. Saw lot of you're familiar with hearing the term. Cpt code hicks picks level to code d. I cd ten or nine. Pcs or see 'em codes and these are just different coats that's administered by different Entities for different purposes so hicks picks level one codes which are also known as cpt. Codes are administered by the american medical association through their cpt process their code procedural terminology process whereas hicks picks level to ko's are administered and given out by the centers for medicare medicare Medicaid services Medicare also administers ic- d. p. c. s. coast which are procedure coats. On some of. You may be familiar with the term. Ic- d. c. m. coz thorn those diagnosis codes and are primarily handled by centers for disease control. We won't be discussing those here today. And then there are other types of coasts such as z. Coz on some of you who might be in the diagnostics face familiar with that are administered by different entities. Like mckesson are used by a payers to kind of track and follow it monitor services that they provide but the real something that what people take away. That coats are really what people use to identify what they're paying for. And sometimes you have. A new products is entering. The market may need a new code. However there are many instances where you want you can simply rely on. Code is currently in place for product is already on the market. There are also situations where you might be able to use an existing code that could be tweaked a bit as i like to say And there is a process whereby especially for cpt codes. You can have a coat descriptive. Revised that takes some interaction with the specialty society in the clinicians using that code historically to kind of talk about what the new changes are but that is something that also people may want to consider that we might talk about a bit later but always wanted. Just put that out there option. Because allow times people think just because i haven't new product the new innovation. I need a new coat and sometimes that innovation fits within existing kkob which means you can cut out some time in terms of getting your device on market. You can save some money in terms of going through that code acquisition process and also Sometimes that new device coming onto the market has really cheesed. The standard of standard of care in the standard of practice in is the newly thought of goto device for treatment of a certain condition. And so you may wanna just modify an existing codes language to really capture. What's going on now in terms of current usage. One thing that we also wanna think about is what happens after we get a code. Great as so coast take a while to get. It can take anywhere from a year to two and a half three years to get a code. Depending on the hurdles lumps and bumps you may encounter along the way but once you want bear mind is what do i get from a code. So having code much like having fda clearance in approval doesn't necessarily mean that you get your final result in terms of coverage in payment has remember they all intersect unique the coating either coverage. And then you need the payment to kind of have reimbursement as we think about it comprehensive late and so once you get your code The next step is to get coverage and coverage really entails. You're having conversations with payers payers like cms payers like private insurance companies to talk about how they view the product that you are selling 'em making as so coverage is really nothing more than a decision by the public or private entity to allow their insurer population to access a service and that starts at the cms side or on the public healthcare side with what we tend to think of as local and national covers decisions so those terms really refer to as you probably guessed national meaning everyone everywhere in this system so for cms cms contractors are going to cover in pay for this service whereas a local decision means that one of the various cms Contractor jurisdictions is going to cover in pay for that service and you might have to go from jurisdiction to jurisdiction have coverage decision. Put in place now with regards to national covers decisions. Those are few in far between. Cms does not just traditionally issue a national coverage policy or service and national decisions while they can start at in a number of ways so as specialty society might ask for national covers decision. A manufacturer or other stakeholder may request one or cms may request that national covers decision be issued those decisions tend to really focus heavily on uptaking you so it typically is for something that's widely utilized Something that's considered very Critical in terms of access by medicare patients and something for which there is a substantial body of evidence showing that that service especially in the context of medicare is reasonable necessary for the benefit of medicare on patient. So those national decisions are Harder to get an are Less frequently issued. However many of you may be familiar with or thinking about local coverage decisions in how that process works and really what a local decision is. Exactly what. The name. Implies medicare has a series of jurisdictions the cover states throughout the country and each of those jurisdictions headed by what we call medicare contractors those contractors make decisions based on their Rupa mr patients in the states. They are over as to whether or not they will allow patients access to service or procedure and those local covers decisions. tend to be made on a case by case basis Looking at a product. Especially if something is new to market to see if that product meets their determination as to whether or not is reasonable and necessary for the population. Those local contractors may engage in conversations with a company regarding their evidence they may also look at that new technology in the context of other treatments and services that are available to treat that same condition or that same type of patient in terms of a disease state and then they will make a decision regarding whether or not they will in fact cover and pay for service. One thing to note is that sometimes you will have a case where possibly three four five of the jurisdictions are covering in paying for service and you still have one jurisdiction that will not cover in pay. Those cases can be very frustrating. They involve a lot of one on one attention engagement but at the end of the day. Ideally you have those conversations. They will turn out to be fruitful lot of the contractors. They meet amongst themselves. Fortunately as a group and they do talk amongst themselves much as Is the case on the private side of the events and they talk they make decisions and determinations about. Oh have you been seeing this device. What did you decide. are are you covering it. What was the reason why you decided to cover it. So those conversations are occurring so as you think about the process. Think about the fact that this information is going to be possibly discussed among a very group of contractors and you wanna think about that in terms of consistency in your presentation in terms of improvements to your presentation along the way And another thing to think about as well is that as you go through that local coverage process there have been some improvements In the past several years so adamant where we help our member companies may be experiencing challenges with getting coverage for their products. We used to hear quite frequently. That my goodness i got a category three code in everybody's automatically uncovering covering it. What do i do. However a few years ago because Abdomen and our member companies Continue to make this concern known to cms. They issued a requirement that there could not be automatic non coverage on the part of local contractors that if a local contractor were to cover a product they really need to clearly articulate the basis for that coverage decision and it could not strictly be because the code was deemed to be experimental. Her is categorization as a category three. Cpt code and that's because amei at no point in its history has ever said that when we put a code into category three is because we deem to be experimental and therefore not appropriate for use impatience. So that was a positive development that has helped people a lot on the local coverage determinations side. But i will stop. They are so that we make sure we have time for more discussion in lots of questions. And hopefully as i said this engaging session and really happy to be here to talk alongside marian david about these issues that you so much to shine. That's terrific overview. So it may be too dab a little bit deeper into those three elements. I do wanna get david mary to weigh in here. And maybe starting with david. What are some of the tips for helping companies through this process. So they get to a successful result. What do you think of the most important factors as you think about those different elements and in particular as john pointed out. This can take a long time to develop in. That's that is often The the difference between life and death in many of these small companies. So david Take us through that Married to wayne as well. yeah sure. yeah it's i mean it's the old adage. It's never too early to start your your reimbursement strategy. I mean when the technology is a twinkle in your eye. You should probably be thinking about. You know how how to get paid for it because it does take time and I thinking as shawn was talking. I thought of a half dozen examples of situations where even a category one. Cpt code You know arrived on the scene. For like i said a half dozen of our clients but then the coverage is literally in some cases two three four years behind that category one. Cpt code for various since we just had a recent example wear. The professional society was the tipping point. that that category one. Cpt code was not enough in and of itself. And it's the sean said Acquiring code is not the end of the line right. it's it back in some cases the beginning of the line in terms of getting all the way through to adequate reimbursement to to support your business model and so if there's anything folks takeaway today it's It's it's a process. It's a lengthy process. There are multiple stakeholders involved. I know we're gonna talk about the role of specialty societies during this discussion. Which needs to be teed up early and often in addition to having early discussions with airs whether it's a government air or private payer those discussions make a lot of sense and And of course your evidence I know we're going to also talk about the fact that evidence is central to to facilitating any of the things to sean. Talked about and there really aren't too many shortcuts. We are going to talk about ways to to maybe not get forced into an rc corner a randomized trial and talk about real world evidence in how that can can enable reimbursement and You know in ways that are going to make you successful but a lot of it has to do with getting started early and identifying your stakeholders identifying your aol's and having very sensitive strategy as as you move through the process. so i'll i'll leave it there. Mary if you want to add onto that and then we'll we'll continue wanted the other topics in maybe married just before you get going because i know something you've talked about his engaging early in as david said it's never too early to start the process but when is the right time to start approaching. Cms or any pair. Let's start with c. A masson and what are some what some of the advice you have on that front and then other tips or or pitfalls that you would you think important mention thanks to build off. What's already been said. would. I can't stress enough start early and having some of those discussions with cms. Kim go very early on because you may wanna do is consider getting some temporary. Codes is the shine mentioned. You may wanna for your facility side. You may want to get some temporary seat coats in apply for those or new technology Pass through or technology. Abc so you wanna start early and consider all your options but really wear that starts is back to the planning phase. You need to make sure you develop a comprehensive strategy starting very early on identified the pathway to get to those because you wanna address coating coverage payment with your overall strategy in as they mentioned. You can't start too early in the pitfalls would be to not include the societies or to alienate a society. You wanna make sure that you have their support You alienated society. You are going to have a very difficult path in also to build a white. David said you know there's usually a lot of happy. People in that category one code comes in it is. It's a great accomplishment however in many ways that's when the work begins you know you need to think about it. Every single patient represents an opportunity for coverage so when you're doing your hand to hand combat starting patient by patient to get those approval. You really building the foundation for long term coverage you have to continue to put pressure on the payer and that really has to come from the patients the physicians and the society's mary just to Got up when one second but just to ask you one question with respect to engaging the societies because we have seen that happen i mean particularly the spine world unfortunately where that is really had a very negative effect on or visit the that brought into versus seem to work. So if you're an entrepreneur with kind of emerging technology how do you go about engaging with the sack societies what what has been your approach in the past to try and rally their support behind something that may not yet have a much evidence behind it. Well it's it's really the take a look at who are early on are the investigators who are behind your technology as well you also need to be strategic in who you pick for your investigators. You have to be careful because it each space. There's some pretty well known. Kol's and there's also some that are well known for reasons that are not so great so you wanna be very select in those kale's upfront. By engaging those kol's they will help bridge that pathway to the societies or should be able to help you bridge the pathway to have some of those early discussions in fact you may have had some of the influential people from the societies involved in your studies but certainly engage them or even engage them in the discussion back in. I know we're gonna get this when you're developing signs. No sorry david. I cut you off but what we're going to say you didn't cut me off but i think number one. There is a in terms of ko l. engagement. Mary you're one hundred percent right. Have you know just so that the crew knows that there are databases out there if you are not if you don't have a beat on who the right. Kol's are there is a database called the h. one database that literally goes through paid state in credentialing process of of kol's at the specialty level. And and all kinds of credential of checking that that can be very useful if you're an early stage company and you don't have a beat on. Who's good who's not and who can help you specialty societies etc right. So there is data out there who inform you in that process so i just wanted to add that but going back to the original reason why i raise. My finger was when mary was mentioning every patience and opportunity You know and you were mentioning. I think more in terms of coverage. Maybe and i'm so i'm just gonna a one. More elaboration that every patient is also an opportunity to collect data right. And and i think evidence is so gosh darn important to this process as going to tell you. It's there aren't that many shortcuts collecting evidence. Every time you're technologies used in the field You should be collecting some level of data. You know on that patient even if it's not in a fully controlled randomized clinical trial. It's still going to be value valuable to you at some point right so getting organized around your sites and your investigators and your early. Kol's and ask them to collect a little bit of data even if it's not everything you want Is also a tip that we highly recommend whether it setting up an early stage registry or something like that. But mary you. You just reminded me of that when you talked about. You know out of the hand to hand combat with patients. It's also an opportunity to collect data and you're gonna need that data and i just went up at one last little piece there as you think about your kol's in how to reach out to contact them You know one day. I used to suggest that people. When i worked for. Was that when you interact with physicians. Who are going to be using your product. Potentially advocating on behalf of your products. In terms of specialties support. You want to reach out to people who are actively involved with their specialty or strongly encourage them to get involved. You want people who are respected within that specialty because those are ultimately going to be people who sit at the table when you presented the cpt panel and the you know the people around the table. We're going gonna look at those folks and ask them what they think about your technology for. They make a decision. Thanks for tuning in to this podcast. You enjoy these types of conversations and perspectives. Then we as the podcast producer. Encourage you to check out. The related med tech. Mvp conference at midtech conference dot com. For ten percent off the conference registration. Please use the discount code. Podcast one david. One thing you mentioned was Clinical evidence in something you mentioned to me as we were preparing for the college abberley interesting is the chance to really incorporate real world as opposed to our ct data which is important in often in a really look for but it can be very expensive for a lot of companies to generate. Some curious can. Can you talk about the role. Real world evidence. In how how. You've been maybe advising your clients on how to add a use that. Yeah that's that's right deaf. I you know our cds will probably always be held out as the gold standard right so our ct randomized clinical trial. However you know the world is turning a little bit and the private payers and cms are on record as saying that while our ct's are still in in kind of the evidence. Hierarchy are still academically on the top notch Level of evidence but practically speak up when pairs wanna make decision as to what they should cover right in what they should pay for. You know they're they're more accepting than they ever have been to real world evidence that is within a design right that's credible and That they can. They can really kind of kick the tires on and feel good about so when we talk about real world evidence. We're talking about planes data. Medical records data patient reported outcomes and the things of that things of that nature. but but. but it's gotta be solid real world evidence right. I mean it's not it's not a free for all you know it's it's not as though you can just collect haphazardly data and and and try to put something together without much of a of design plan. You know you still need to their own. Needs to be a lot of rigor around how you collect the real world evidence And how it's presented and how it's analyzed so it's not easy spree but it is cheaper street in the sense that you know in our c. T. can be five to ten million dollars. Most of us on this call probably don't have that And some of you probably couldn't even conducted randomized clinical trial. If you wanted you know for either ethical reasons or or the obvious questions that have already mentioned and real world. Evidence is at practice economically more efficient and also from a chinese and point depending upon how much retrospective data you might have it. also is is significantly faster. You know to to get you in the data that you're going to need right. So that's a whole unto itself but i think we just wanted to make sure we introduced that if you're hearing from the payers gotta be a five year You know and we wouldn't be surprised if you are hearing something like that. Depending upon what your technology is. There's ways to kind of manage that expectation and even sometimes work with the payers on helping you design that. But i do qualify that. Because if you ask the payers what they would like to see in a in a study a real world evidence study they may ask you for the world and you may not be able to produce what they're looking for and then you've kind of you've kind of planted a seed that you can do what they want and that you might not be able to do what they want. So there is a double edged sword to that but that that's a little bit of commentary jeff in terms of the value of a real world evidence and baker tilly. We specialize in health economics and outcomes research with emphasis on clinical utility and we produce half dozen to a dozen published studies annually. That that help our clients in meaningful ways right to to get the get that coverage that's that's oftentimes very allusive. But very important. You know to companies like those on the ultimate. That super helpful at and i didn't i haven't been aware of Of the ability used this app to ask marriages in her experience. You know Number networks beyond have you been able to take advantage of that as have you've been using real world evidence in your efforts in and maybe the corollary to that question is given the payers will ask for kind of the world. Is david put it. What are the ways to push back on that in. Boil it down to kind of what's what's really necessary in how you go about that. So sorry to our question. Yeah well we'll start with. I think we all have to understand. Just act is the pay is going to ask for the world. And they're going to continue to change the bar. They may tell you we want to year. Then you go back with two year. They want for years. So i think you need to plan that they're just gonna continue to raise the bar because once it doesn't mean they're going to then give you the coverage but i think what you wanna do is take a look at your evidence into italyi you know you want to present the package the best way you can and with that real world evidence part of what you have to do is your pitch to the payer is those are really the beneficiaries. Those are the patients. This is real world. This is they're out there. These are the ones being treated. And just because you've had the randomized trial for example we have a randomized double blind sham. Control we then have second randomized study. Then we have some real world. And what are the payers. Say it's not enough at you. You need to expect their going. Say it's not enough and you just need to continue to be able to get in front of him as shannon said. It's multiple meetings. It's multiple things. But i think too with that evidence. Why should you have to say okay. You're building that real world evidence. David said by treating patient by patient. There's the data as well so as you gain experience you really start to gain at at that regional level get those regional payers to come in then that builds to the point where you can then approach the Large payers the aetna the united healthcare the things that that's typically how that cycle is going to work so it really can become a combination of evidence but again i think it's also evidence in support of your technology meaning again back to your society in your k. wells because if they're supporting and they've been part of it or part of the real world that is really what's going to help you continue to convince those payers. Let's face it. They're not gonna wanna necessarily here from the manufacturer you may have. A great company agreed product. But you really are the manufacturer. That's who you represent. So they wanna hear it from a those that are providing the treatments or the procedure and some from those that are receiving it so again high level. You know you can't get a sham procedure. So that's a big deal. You did a sham okay. You know what's involved in that trial significant okay. Well here's your against conservative care but yeah we'll that's still industry sponsored so just sponsor just know they're gonna come back with you be able to defend it. Don't be proud of your data. Whatever evidence you have included in the package that you could present with confidence that makes a lot of sense destroy. You mentioned something which hourly interesting around category three codes. Because i think from the industry side. We've always have you know exactly what you point out. Last category threes. Become kind of the death-knell where you get the category three designation all of a sudden. It's a license to be denied the everybody so i was really interested to hear what you said. How effective has that been and Or have the The max come up with different reasons to to To deny they're not necessarily because it's experimental but But other reasons what's been a found that they're good tactics kind of now. Enter into a real discussion with With the mets As a result of this policy decision really question jeff. So i think what we're hearing. Anecdotally is that members having more success than they used to with category three coats. And i think that's in part due to two things one. The cms policy change in terms of there can't be automatic coverage so that means that if you are a contractor you'd literally in your non coverage decision. Your policy have to articulate what was wrong with that device for you to not cover it like why you have explicitly designed to not cover it the other part being that now for those of you have been the cpt meetings. You will see that. There are a lot more products coming to the table. Wanna category one code in the category. Three the rate at which category three codes are being issued. I don't have exact stats but is far more significant compared to pass years. And the as many probably also know if you've been swiss. Cpt meeting the ability to kinda snatch that proposal off the table when it looks like the panel members are heading towards category. Three land is also severely different and diminished from past years so There's there's a lot more products that are out there with category. Three coats The other thing that people are doing. I think now with category three causes just because category three does not mean that. There's no evidence for it so there are things that are in category three That actually do have some evidence and there are things in category three that have been. Fda approved so when we think about the standard for category one codes At the ama level particular. Those really are literature standard. Those are standards that are also related to utilization which can be a challenge especially if you have a device designed for a rare population of patients. that will not be getting that procedure. Done often is just not going to ever happen. You're never gonna have one hundred thousand patients a year getting service and so you might honestly be relegated to a category three for a long time and have a device that people need the clinicians what to us and that has uptake at least in the way that it should given the population that it serves. Now there are still people who will get a category three co for purposes and. That's really to say that we want to see who's using this procedure while we continue to work on evidence for category one. But i think knowing that you know there are variations in the types of devices. They have category three coats nowadays. there is more i think acceptance in advocacy especially on the part of clinicians. Because you know there are clinicians who want to use these devices. And so i think bringing those arguments in coupled with the fact that cms has made this change really at least puts the onus a bit more on the part of the contractor to really have a legitimate stance as to why they have decided to not cover that the vice now whereas how they treat payment as a whole another story but at least that helps a bit with the coverage amp side of things in the married away in on this too. I think one of the frustrating things for emerging companies is notion of widespread usage. When in fact you you have trouble getting paid for so what you know how. How do you actually bridge that gap m. sit and we'll talk about that later is one of the one of the things that frameworks could potentially help with this. But in in lieu of that. How do you advise clients david in mary's perspective. To on on sort of this idea of getting you know vote widespread utilization when you're not yet covered or pay for. It is definitely a chicken in the conundrum for sure. You know i think I think you really have to focus on the The patient experience and the clinician experience and and and the and the value that each of them are going to gain from from the use of the technology You know and and sell them on the fact that That you know the more usage there is that you know there will be A reimbursement pathway down the road right. So and it's not an easy sell But but you do have to. Kind of work with your. Kol's get their buy in on things other than economics. Which i know. I know that's not easy to do by any stretch of the imagination. But kind of look at the non-economic pieces of your value proposition and really emphasize those and get your kol's to buy into the fact that they are contributing. They are contributing to a reimbursement athlete and even educate them on. Would you know what what this chicken the thing that you need to show substantial utilization in order to qualify for a category one code and yet to get there you there may be there may be a a a period of time there with the reimbursement is not what it what what it should be. I i also consistent you know kind of concurrent with that. We really recommend that. Kol's and early adopters continue to ask for coverage you know from the payers of predict the private payers. Even if they know they're not going to get a yes you know. It does create market noise. And there is something to be said for clinicians asking to you technology and asking the eggers. Hey on this case. Will you approve this. Because of this this and this and i feel strongly that this patient will benefit you know from this because we often hear from payers hate. Nobody my network ever asked to use this device. The why is it so important to me. if i'm using cigna's an example right. Why is it so important to me. Cigna if nobody's ever asked to use it and and so you want to avoid that right so you do want to get your early adopters in. Kol's to start asking you know a for one off approval on the devices you know even if they know that that's probably not likely and and actually sometimes you end up getting you know some case by case coverage win some reimbursement in those scenario so those are a couple of things around around that topic make sense view double this and also what is widespread utilization even mean for it so that is a great question than having just gone through the cpt one process. I can tell you there was a lot of debate. Adult widespread use means even along with the ama. But what i would say just to build off of what's been said already. Is you really wanna have innovators. Those early users have to be true. Innovators meaning they are willing to engage in the reimbursement process. Because if they're not willing to engage in the process it's not going to create that demand the david reference to really build upon. Put the pressure. But what i found especially having just gone through that. Cpt process it was a couple of different things one truly having innovators involved as well as the ko wells that were very involved in influential within the societies because when you go forward to the ama with that category application you want strong society support if you have multiple society support that selves leads itself to mean widespread. Use or you know. Basically they will perceive that there's widespread utilization because multiple societies are bringing that application. Yep that's really helpful while we want to get to some other topics here but that's been great. I wanna encourage anybody in the audience to you. Know to ask questions is as i said will leave some time at the end So i wanna move next because medicare is obviously a key piece of the puzzle But we can't ignore the commercial side. I think We've been referencing along the way here which has been a really interesting. But but you know it used to be at least in my experience. The common wisdom. Well you'll get a positive coverage in payment through a medicare and the and the private payers will basically pip it off of that. It seems to me that that really is less and less the case but but correct me if a wrong. Maybe david lead us through kind of the differences in the pathway with the private payer universe in in some of the things that can be helpful for him For our audience here okay. Sure yeah i appreciate. If i you know i mean certainly There's a couple of obvious differences between cms deeming something appropriate and comfortable and private payers doing the same and you know and one big difference. Is the populations offer right. I mean it's it's obvious but it needs to be said that that the medicare and medicaid to some extent art are completely different populations. Van commercial work right. The commercial world is you know is Pretty much you know from obviously a pediatrics. And children are part of the benefit. Policies that the commercial payers pay for but on the adult side. You know you're going from ages. Eighteen to sixty four and there are different dynamics. in the way the technology's work in those in those population touring so a lotta times. You do need to the private payers. I wanna see how your technology responds in their specific population. Right and so you have to be careful not to collect all of your data on medicare age patients because that certainly can help you with the commercial plans but you may still as we said before they'll move the cheese. They may still want to see how your technology actually does in a younger population presumably. You could argue that. If it works well on an older population it probably should work just as well if not better younger population. But the payers don't always agree with that right and so so there's differences in the in the populations That caused some different strategies to be adopted. Between you know government payers and in private payers at and there's also a you know a There's also you should be aware that the insurance industry the private insurance industry has migrated dramatically to a self insured model. Right another words where it's really the employers that are paying for the cost of your technology and for the and for all the medical costs i mean cygnus like eighty percent self insured in other words. They're only at risk for about twenty percent of the members that good population. Excuse my ring. There and united healthcare is is over half aetna. You know a lot of a lot of the blue cross organizations you know the cover union groups and things like that You know a lot of those entities are self insured where the employer or the union are the ones taking on the risk and And so the payers need the kind of satisfy those customers. And when you're putting together your evidence plan you need to be thinking about the fact that the payers on arnold thinking about themselves but they're also trying to be good stewards of their customers money and that's always a good mindset into the way you design your studies is to make sure that you're kind of accommodating those differences um so you know some commonalities are we talked about the national versus local You know that. That's that's true on the medicare side. You know maybe start with local papers decisions and build up of from from small and kind of expand your web with the private payers that that strategy can work to don't necessarily start with at cigna start with some local blue cross plans. Start where you have. Kol string right if you if you have kol strengthened florida and texas and california Than go look at those regional right and and and use the leverage those. Kol's as effectively as possible. You know to start with a regional strategy that you can then build momentum you know as we set earlier with regard to the government so that's something that's a little more similar on the private side versus i'll stop there and allow others that the chime in but that's a brief overview of kind of the private versus the bucks. That's interesting go ahead asking. Just add a little bit to what david was saying. I totally agree. I think part of it too is that i'm you know whereas you did. You see a pattern of follow on with private payers follow medicare coverage that trend has shifted a bit and to david's point making that kind of value proposition. As you go out and market your device to these private payers as well as medicare is helpful. Especially in a situation where you are still building up your utilization uptake. Because that's going to vary depending upon what your product is quite frankly so widespread use only defined as widespread use per the population. That's going to be using the technology or properly issue anticipate using it off to davis other point about how you structure trials in design development. Your product one of the things. We like to tell people at medical snap consulting group but we do have members that we talked about these issues. Is that you know. You really want to think about the population of patients who ideally ultimately will be using your product so if you're designing something that's primarily going to be used in eight year old began has medicare benny's in your in your trial but if it's something that's going to be you know primarily for forty or fifty year olds but could creep into a medicare population tried include some numbers just to show what those results look like on the other end of the spectrum for those patients who who might in some circumstances use your product. But you really need to be thinking about your patient population. Who's going to be using your device. And how those benefits can easily be translated to the pairs with your engaging on the reimbursement issues very one of the things. David said that a hose interesting is is the you know the influence or importance of self insured employers or insurers which which have a large I guess presence of south of employers which which are you know paying for paying for the healthcare employees do you think of this in context of back pain relief where you can think of a lot of industries where a lot of the members to be very susceptible at the back pain. Is that something that you've Done gone to the self-insured employers as an example as canada beachhead. In what's been the success of that or if he happened kind of Target insurance where there might be a high a preponderance of employers. Were the were the were the including could have back pain. Good question in just to differentiate a little bit ours chronicle back in a little bit different than more of an industrial injured type. There are some that may be in that category. However the self-insured apply market is still very very you wanna check into a we are absolutely using that market however using it is through the patients in particular if we identify a patient that actually is with a self insured employer. We try to make sure we get to that age art department to let them know that is self insured. They have a voice. In what's interesting. I used the signal example. That david referenced. Signal will tell their member plans. Okay we have non coverage but then i will say to the self insured. Hr person maybe a smaller company will do realize yourself insurance or you have a voice and you can ask them and have input in when they take it to that next step. Cigna has to say will yes. We'll then you start to look in the member. Plans actually forced coverage for their own employees. Then signet larger starts to look a little bit inconsistent on their coverage piece so absolutely leverage it wherever you can and there are self insured employer groups and the union is another great opportunity. That's interesting. I want to eat on a couple of the questions that are coming in here. one of them is Do you join the. Kol's in the payer meetings in enac resume may be. The kind of the root of this question is that maybe there's some presumption of bias if say the company or the consulting firm joins the aol. What's been your practice. I'll start with them. Marian may be david. Tell us what you guys do to absolutely in the kale in if they can lead the majority of the discussion at the pair. You absolutely want them to. In fact you try to be as far removed as you can. But you're obviously have to engage. Be part of the process in help. His at all of them have gone for a payer before. So you help them package the presentation in a manner that you found successful in the past. Yeah and i. I would remove word maybe from the bias as you said just to be to be brutally honest. You know the payers one hundred. Ten percent believes that every metro tech company is bias and it is and it's gonna feed them a lot. I mean i just. I'm just being that you know. And and so we we baker tilly. We do it both ways you know but but when the qena wells can be independent and mary just made a good point you. It's not always the case. But but there are cases where the payoff files can be coaxed up and and all parties can feel comfortable that they're going to carry the water in an appropriate way. And you know we have. Baker chillier usually involved right. If we're meeting with cigna ratner unite. You know any of the big boys and a lot the blues plans in some cases we only get the meeting. We assure them that. The manufacturer will not be which is not music to mary's year. I understand and But sometimes you have to navigate things that will be flexible right. You have to be ready to be flexible but but certainly if you can get meetings with you as a manufacturer being involved were all for it but there might be situations we have to be flexible and therefore you have to coach up. Yeah and i just wanted to add that. I've i've actually been in some very successful meetings even with cms where we brought in a specialty society leader who was respected. And it's totally shifted. The tone demeanor of those meetings. I think just to add one thing that especially if the society has some guidelines. They've written on the technology at all to have that society somebody from that society part of it. They can really lead in that can sway. It pretty quickly is may be very specific. I've you sit in them too many times this but they are very. They are very guideline driven right. So if one of the strategy need to start early Losing the specialty societies. And having them become your kol's but literally your end goal is to get into gaza. It is to be referenced in a guideline guideline doesn't have the Guideline needs to acknowledge. You know your technology as an appropriate option hate. It doesn't need to be over the moon but you know and so we recently we work with aycock and that you know there's now mention of our client in there and and cigna went positive within two weeks of that aycock mentioned in the guidelines right so we had mentioned that specifically yet we a lot about specialty societies but the getting mentioned in the guidelines is to some of the payers. I think i'm picking on a senior today but That's a you know it's important for more than just now. That makes sense another question which we've touched on but maybe maybe if there's a fine Is what is widespread use in. Mary said that's the subject of a lot of debate. I'm just curious. Is there any real definition of widespread users that just opened for reputation. Maybe why you now. The army wants to say us like reasonable unnecessary or pornography. You know what you see. It hasn't ever been. You cannot get the amass or you cannot get the may to hone in or give you any exact stats on. What constitutes widespread use sometimes. What you'll hear is they will literally lay kind of way your technology the population of patients and the condition for wish there being treated against like they will do the numbers that way so they will look at your technology and say okay. Well they are one million patients with law coma so it's not wise great years if these patients are typically being treated for their glaucoma Every year in only ten of them are using your device. So you really have to have some in rows that are really kind of odd har- with a what that patient population is who needs that device and that's where to david. Mary's points is really nice to have those. Kol's engaging in active especially the specialty society level especially at the guideline inclusion level. Because they'll be able to tell you how many patients they anticipate could potentially be moved Existing technologies onto your platform. How many people could be added adding that technology usage to their care plan and they can help you. Structure what those numbers look like to get a better estimate of what widespread use is but literally it does vary from product and it really is highly dependent upon the pinch have the condition your device to treat and i know that has a good yes sir but others have other information. They want to offer that briefly I will say when they discussed that issue in just to build on that. There's actually been debate with the. Ama in proposals brought forward to get rid of that. Widespread use requirement because of what david talked about the chicken in the tank. So it's tough in you'd like to say okay give us a metric but actually part of a cpt application you have to say. How many providers are they're doing. How many patients have been treated so they. Actually they ask you for specific numbers. But they don't tell you what the specific number has to be to meet the threshold. So we're coming up on the hour and want to be sensitive to everybody's time but maybe the finish up. I'd like to ask each of you to maybe come up with something a company that's been really successful or example and you can choose whether macaroni mention names but that was has been really successful and navigating this process. It may be mentioned a couple of the things that you think will really the in in. We've covered a lot of the things that probably do a have influenced what why they were successful. But maybe mentioned a an example accompanying why you think. They were so successful in in In navigating this process. Maybe mary will lead with you. Okay i think will. It's really just to summarize everything we have sat and it was to start early in the process assessing with a complete reimbursements debt strategy including going back to develop in clinical studies where there was input from the specialty societies. In actually you triggered something earlier. It was actually reviewed by a couple of us. Cms medical directors that we're doing consulting former directors to david's point. That we didn't say that. do you watch it. There was not the question what you want in it. It was reviewed the protocol. Is there anything you see missing so really starting even at that early on and then being very very controlled in the commercialization meaning not going out in just letting any physician to it but being very careful to roll out. The technology really preserve the outcomes that you see in those clinical trials again along with using the specialty societies. In kol's and again. I think the message is. There's really not a short cut to the process plan for marathon. And he can't you typically don't sprint a marathon you have to pay train in. Nba ready for every step of that process. In those are the ways that companies get it across the line that super helpful deshaun visit any company or is there an example. That comes to mind in your experience where you're like well. This went really well better than i. I won't name names. And i know we have some companies on the call. 'cause i recognize people on the chat but i will say that to mary's point understanding the landscape so knowing what's out there right now and how you fit in and what you bring to the table in terms of mit. Doing something different. Do i need a new coat as i said earlier. If i do need a new coat how am i differentiate myself from what's already out there and how am i developing the evidence to make my case for differentiation. Either via new coat. either being a new via neur- approve payment. And i think understanding the landscape and how you fit in and then building the alliances that are necessary to get you cross. That finish line is critical so then working with the specialty society understanding where there might be competitive issues in terms of A service that people have been doing forever that might get build more because it takes a long time to do and now you're truncating the time how that's impacting that physician audience Understanding what that physician needs for their patients based on their patient experience and then understanding. What the patient's dance to gain from switching to your product so these are all variables that you really need to bear in mind as you craft your reimbursement strategy and as you go through the cycle of dealing with the coating piece and then moving onto coverage in engaging with cms and other stakeholders in keeping you leaders in david will end with you who What comes to mind from your experience a company. That's been really good in what they did. There several But but inspired medical In the space the obstructive sleep apnea space. You know it. It hasn't been perfect but they they did a tremendous job. We help them get in front of the right people and we help them get coverage with aetna that they they have just done a recent ipo and their market cap dollar tripled. The day that aetna announced that they were going to uncover they were gonna cover inspire medical. We like to think we we had some some input there but they really they. They had a they pollute. They produced a lot of evidence and they also worked very closely with the blue cross blue shield association and actually got the association to move and act had That cata trickle down effect though evidence and blue cross blue shield association advocacy and specialty society gauge meant. I think were three things. They did really well That has basically led the universal for inspire. And i think you know. They're they're considered you know from a coverage standpoint to be a success story. So i i know you kinda wanted at least one. I company identified so. I tried to adult you on that you know and and hopefully hopefully that's somewhat of a helpful that's perfect. We're well we are out of time but this has been a great discussion as usual. This is you know any one of the topics that we touched on his probably worthy of a whole hour in a discussion. But i thought you guys did a great job in pulling out a the most sailing in pragmatic points in each of this. I just wanna thank each of you for for taking the time today in the walkie throat and it's been a pleasure thank you thank you. Yeah thank you thanks mary. It's everybody for joining a great day.

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Episode 72: Haunted & Cursed Objects

Walking the Shadowlands

52:06 min | 10 months ago

Episode 72: Haunted & Cursed Objects

"No my high air. Mind everyone. And welcome to the book in the shadowlands. Podcast lead me you guide as we take a walk into the rooms of the unexplained of the paranormal of things that go bump in the night and hold your dreams on the rianne. Thanks so much for joining me today tonight. What every time it is wherever you're living in this beautiful word of sit back relax and let me be your guide as we look into the shadowlands to give a and see what awaits us. Lear haunted autumn's also kuntar. Titans are available for so seemingly everywhere. You look on the internet today. A quick google suj- resulted in about twenty one million four hundred thousand results on the day. I go this. Buying and selling of supposedly haunted items has become a popular trained. Ebay has a whole section devoted to it also on facebook you can find any number of groups that dedicate themselves to the so an purchasing of these items but can items truly be haunted kuenssberg attached themselves to an inanimate object. Is it indeed possible for spurt to stay with a physical artem. It love during life or an item that possibly caused the did like a car which will discuss later in the show as we saw last absurd with my wonderful guest dwayne sunni from the chicago antiques market. The sometimes pre loved. Auden's do come with extra extras to them in this episode. I'm going to discuss a number of supposedly haunted or allegedly cruised items They the same thing. Even some of you may have heard of these latins. Some may be new but the question is always us You willing to work with me into this part of the shadowlands and see what awaits us. The then lit beacon. The subject of wounded items is nothing. New it's been around long as an is does have in fact in many coaches people make curtains especially to house spirits mosques being the most common used in this way especially if they're to be used for ritual or spiritual purposes in many coaches as the mosques being made the maker asks a specific spruyt or daddy to inhabit and simply when this mosque is the news it helps the wearer to tune into this pacific spirit or deity in some cases. The weird can be temporarily taken over or persist by seat being but any single autumn all multiple items can have spirits or energies attached to them. The simple reality is that we Energetic beans and we're constantly sheeting energy think of it like house dust that guy's everywhere every single thing that we touch we leave a little of our energy on sorry. Just imagine some item that you treasure above all else you hold it stroke it tach et bar at you infuse all your loving own negative energy into the sodom whatever it may be you infuse it with your emotions at that point in time positive o-negative so is already got a large portion of your energy attached to it isn't such a stretch of the imagination to consider the any object were a format takes was so loved of its owner that they don't want to lead guard and so is tinier at the same weeks auction set as friendly and supposedly caused by the way people who are very sensitive are capable of reading the energy on any object and getting information about the deceased or previous zeina or history and situations associated with it object infect someplace departments in different countries have used sensitives. Who have this gift to help them solve crimes. A number of television shows have been created using sensitive to obtain information about in a non victim. This is done by holding a photo from in an envelope so they can't see what the patient looks like or by holding a pistol item or piece of clothing belonging to the person. This particular gift is cooled. Sicom etry some people may not recognize that they have this ability but beheads just feel uncomfortable when touch an object all feel emotional or view the object caused to them in some way as with dwayne fringe last episode. They react on a mostly sub-conscious visceral way to the energies. Put off by the object. Now dems are we bit different. How do negative energies or entities become attached to such objects and. This is almost always deliberately done. The prison usually does this in a foam offer. Ritual of some sort or another from shamanic rituals practicing some coaches to the a coat or ritualistic practices almost always intentional. They then in a spirit or lower level entity and bind them to the object for a specific purpose or seat of purposes was the practice is still done by some today. It was more common and earliest centuries however it is very likely the they are so very old objects in circulation that will have entities still attached to them likely these would be small wearable items but not always and all talk specifically about a couple of large autumn slater on in the same side however for now. I'm going to. She a part of a conversation with robert vito against coming up in about three episodes when i was interviewing him i asked him if he had if a come across a wounded object in his business of by native artifacts. Mostly from mexico. He is the interesting story he told me i had a woman who were selling to me when i had a retail store and she was the granddaughter of a witch and she had all of these healing properties stuff like that. She was a very weird a strange character. You know someone who would live on the house side of town like we're actually said you need to be burning incense in this place. There's there i can feel the energies of these of some of these things. These dolls that you have these sculptures. They were made with feeling in meaning. And you need to be burning sage and you need to be doing all this stuff. And i'm like yeah whatever whatever and then a few weeks later i opened up the store with an employee i so i have a witness. There was one piece of merchandise. It was a sculpture was a storyteller sculpture was a woman's a seated woman telling stories with an open book with cats shows. The cat lady that had like six cats on her show two hundred shoulders. You know just the cats were like listening to her. Read that sculpture had moved on the shelf about one foot and it had moved all of the other pieces clay pieces on the shelf away and there were some on the floor. Okay yeah there were stuff on the floor and my employees was like what are you doing trying to trick me or whatever i said. No you just came. You came in when i day right here. I didn't do this and it was as if something happened. In the middle of the night to move the sculpture and to knockout the others that were on the show. And then i said to him. You think i'm gonna ruin merchandise like this. This cost me money. There's stuff on the floor that's broken. You think i would do that just to scare you know. But that wasn't the first time to have things fall off the wall and yeah some things did happen but You know like that woman. The granddaughter of the witch said you know you. You don't know how some of the stuff was made you know with what intention is behind all of this. And she said you need to be burning sage and doing some things to clear out. All the bad stuff might be in here. So yeah as i consistently say to members of my facebook group and in various episodes of this podcast intent is everything in tinta's et -solutely and you do not know with watt and tinton object was made the make might have been having a really tough time always angry hooting grieving. Who knows when they made date object and they put those the energies and that intended or absolutely it could have been a deliberate intent. Edit but what sort of can be haunted or chris and we can. They be found how the saying how long is a piece of string. Here are some of the many places you can possibly and innocently pick up an item that has an attachment antique shops. Auctions estate serve especially large is in such as finisher mirrors but even small auden's like ring or chain or even a mixing bowl can have attachments. And you might not even be aware until you start experiencing strange things in your home. Free markets and antique fears inheritance roadside. Finds very often if you find an item that's been chucked out. They've been good condition. Even if a wee bit owed it may have been checked not only because i know no longer wanted dot because of what comes with it and finally thrift. Oh seekin hands stores because they ask so. Many stories of haunted accused objects. I'm really having a struggle to limited examples and really. What does that tell you about how easy it is for our energy to attach to inanimate objects but perhaps solve we begin with the most innocent of children's toys the dull or more specifically dove fas interested the fighters video autumn's were could find them on this episodes page of the podcast we'd site. Www dot walking the shadowlands dot com it elites begin with positively one of the most famous and well known of haunted. Dole's robert the dole rope. It is handmade and one of conned. He was created around the tune of the century. He has blank pages. That will once obvious but have been lost with time. He stands over three feet. Tall is stuffed with wood shavings industries and white faded sailor suit with a red band duran. Vm the dough takes its name from its long time owner. Rapa eugene auto. Who lived in key. West florida in the united states. Auto actually used the name eugene. He named the dull robot as a child. Eugene often blinds a doll for excellence and other so-called misbehavior his parents emphasis to the auto household often. Who gene talking with a dull while an matha unrecognizable eugene's other toys were found mutilated or destroyed ex. He evidently attributed to robert neighbors suspiciously children. Client say the dog period out from different windows in the house. This story that season unconvinced eugene's parents to get rid of the which was then moved into the outs epic soon. After robert was moved the woman was found dead of a stroke in spite of these things. Eugene retained ownership of the dole into adulthood some say. He even dedicated a room in his house to robert. He degraded it like a child's room and folded within it shrink toys from when he was a child. Eugene passed away in nineteen seventy four. By the time of his death eugene's i'm had become a local attraction known as the artis tough because it was so colorfully painted after eugene's death. Robert dole continued to haunt the property. Which by then had been sold to myrtle reuter footsteps and giggling in the edit grooming bravo was kit for frequently who'd according to the key whizzed out and historical society. A plumber wants change around to find. The dole had moved across the room on its own. A reporter named malcolm ross visited robert and lighted claimed that the does expression changed in reaction to things that were seed in its presence. Malcolm felt that dole was listening to the conversation. Emphasised some sort of intelligence myrtle who brought the high after you engine stiff kept rob up with even if she moved hines she. Fani donated the doj to the foretaste montello museum in nineteen ninety four upon donating robert. Mitchell confirmed the rumors that he was haunted. She kind had scurried around her house. Now when robert stay the museum began staff almost immediately noticed a significant change in atmosphere. Soon after he went on display visitors complained that and how cameras and electronic devices stopped working whenever they stood neom they devices began to start working as soon as they moved away from him then later started arriving at the museum. That were addressed rope it. These leaders were from previous visitors apologizing for acting rudely to the dom and begging for forgiveness as misfortune had befallen themselves. The visit to the museum late is continue to arrive at the museum. We brought it remains on exhibit to this day in. Thanked the staff off the foretaste. Martell museum recommends that patients behave respectfully while in the dolls presence that patients ask permission before anyone chose to take his fighter. Fate even suggest politely. Introducing yourself just to be on the safe side very cute adorable. Little furry muppet from smith street is the knicks haunted item. Elmo is a theory very popular character and his remained so for many decades now and a specific elmich toy was released by fisher price him manufactured them in two thousand and five code. Elmo nausea name this cute to it absolutely topped the list of toy of choice for we wednesday at christmas. Not only because he was such a lovable character on this mystery but because this particular toy wasn't ranked of in that it was programmed to recite the i name along with some other personalized phrases a very clever marketing device and made and price a lot of mommy that year and in subsequent years undoubtably now. This particular story begins in two thousand the night three years after its release. I weighed two year. Old led by the name of john's bowman had been given one of these adorable we toys by his parents. Who saw double giving him this cured interactive playmate and they were initially at least however this particular alma knows your name toy. Didn't onny no james's name but it lied to include the would kill before sign it. Yup you that right kill ally would say. Kill james repeatedly until his naturally upstate. Mom who'd and took the toy away from the toddler who was repeating what alma had said to him apparently says elmo only began sprouting. These district's about an hour. Its batteries had been changed when the original ones. That came as a toy had died. James's mom melissa seed pod thumping new would never come out of toy. But once i heard it. I was just kind of distraught about an hour later. I noticed exactly what it was saying. And my son was repeating exactly what it was saying. Naturally contain two fishermen pros and melissa in an interview with a local news channel. Considering the fact that my son was repeating it is really upset me and there's nothing that they are even going. They didn't even sound concerned about it really you when i when i spoke to him the television company thing contacted the maker on behalf who offered a replacement agency they head quite experts who would evaluate the toy on this episode's page of the podcast website at www dot fork in the shadowlands dot com. The is a video which you can see off. The actual interview with melissa was the result of some program. Ed in italy extra to the program that parents had to demo to get the toy book or was it something else entirely you. Decide for yourself mandy moore. Win mandy was donated to the quiz no museum and british columbia canada and nineteen ninety one. She wasn't in particularly good condition. Who clothing duty. Who body was hurt. Hand hit had cracks annette but then she was over. Ninety years olds beheads. A little bit of wearing deer was to be expected. Apparently strange things happen with mandy as the belt. The person who donated mandy to the museum told them she would wake up in the night and hear a baby cry from the basement but when she went to look she would find a cushion blowing in the breeze from an open window. The diner later told the museum that once she donated mandy she no longer a baby crying. This is a direct quote from the museum's pageau mandy. Yes she has her arm page. Which is linked from the citizens page on our website quote. But now the museum staff and volunteers with settled was weed and unexplained defense lunches would disappear from the refrigerator and be later found tucked away in a drawer. Footsteps were when no one is around pins books pitches and who knows what else would go missing. Some never to be found in would turn up later. Of course it was passed office the staff being more absent minded than usual mandy as you know. Have a home within the museum as she sat facing the public interest way i would steer and talk about. This dough was a cracked and broken face and sinister smile with time. Mandy was moved to another part of the museum and carefully placed in a case by herself because room ahead that she should not be placed with other dole's because she would harm them since that time they have been many many stories surrounding mandy in quite some visitors to the museum have had strange experiences with doll. Such is the video camera. Lot going on off every five seconds. Some people say they've seen mandy saws. Follow them around the room while they sing. Mandates is blink but possibly the most famous and well known. Donald is an abo- is the one that the movie was made By now most of you may have who'd or seen the movie in spa by an extra story. Of course great. Liberties would take him with the hollywood production surrounding it. Much of which is edit on for dramatic effect end. Didn't happen but the genuine story is scaring enough. a some. So his the reader's digest version of the real story. The real life annabel story begins in nineteen seventy when a twenty eight year old news name. Donna received the raggedy. Ann doll bissett prison from her mother. Donna put dolan who habid and shortly after this. She began noticing that the dole would change positions when she was out of the room. Like donna would find the league crossed or lane on his side. this is collided into donna. And her roommate. Angie supposedly funding nights written pashmina paper round the home containing messages such as help me help us both of these women. Sweden ahead no parchment paper in the house then. The dole began tuning up in different rooms of the house and at one time appeared to be leaking blood. At first the girls sought the sudan and true moving the dole round and rodney nights and just doing everything they could to scare them. They quickly ruled out was an intruder and then not know what else to do. They tuned to medium for help during a sense with this medium. They leaned of annabel higgins. Who was supposedly a jangle may have died on the property before. The putman support veterans souvenirs of age through the medium. Annabel choose comforted by the roommate. Spend the end wanted to stay with them and beloved donna. And angie gave an abo- permission to inhabit the dow and the in things go as they had a mouse and loose in the night apparently luoi cup to find the dose during at him feeling like he was being strangled and discovering deep scratches on his upper body. It was at this point. They're eight and lorrimore who namba selma's psycho demon allergists and paranormal research has became involved and the dog was handed to them and remained in the position until the if they felt that dole was inhabited by an inhuman spirit and that it should never be touched. They had the dole on this play in a locked glass case surrounded by so to keep it banned in the case with a sign on the case not touch. The dome was museum. Go nude the warnings. And supposedly taunted. The dog died in a motorcycle crash shortly after being told leeza museum. Since warren's died then museum has been looked after by these son-in-law tiny spirit an presumably annabel remains leah. charlie. China was discovered in nineteen sixty eight in the anti govan old taurean. Heimat upstate new york. You say he was found in the bottom of a ted trunk full of newspaper. The offer item wasn't old piece of paper containing the lord's prayer. The old newspaper used to pick the trunk head dates on it going back to the early nineteen thirties. But the actual age of the dole couldn't be determined the family oriented and a collection of and take dolls and this dole was simply added to it. The doll was given the name charlie at faced the family which consisted of husband. Wife and five daughters. Didn't pay much attention to charlie. He was just another dull amongst the mini. It wasn't until charlie seemed to move from place to place on the bench that was full of dole's that anyone took nitis the parents. Of course were quick to play five kids but they will say that they knew nothing. About how the doe moved then. The youngest daughter who was four years old said that charlie had spoken to her when she got up to use the bathroom in the middle of the night. Naturally the appearances shamed. The baby was imagining things. The parents never actually witnessed charlie doing anything but then soon became very obsessed with adult and with terrified ova or five of them refused to get up during the night to use the bathroom and none of them would go with five feet of the bench. The doll restored on the final story. Was when the parents discovered that the youngest daughter was covered with scratches. She was adamant it wasn't from the. But that charlie had done it to the periods never really found out the truth because they decided since it was up sitting the kid so much and causing so many issues with them that they took the dog bed the etiquette and locked in the trunk of his phantom thing soon returned to normal and the doll was quickly forgotten years later. Once the children were grown in the house was sold. The trunk was removed from the to be sold at a garage so the doll remained one of the last things to go find me. A woman brought the dow to ed to antique traction and the high mona recanted his own story. To regarding charlie since then the doll has changed hands a few more times and it story has followed at charlie has been seed still move from time to time but he really only seems to children period and scary lunar. The mousters scared nowhere. Nowhere laugh his spare no longer scared scared. Go able we who Sorry use gauge it. Let's move on from dole's to some large objects the pfister these is one that has fascinated mason sought fist to hit about it some decades ago. And it's cool to the conju cheekiest the conscious. It is an absolutely beautiful piece of craftsmanship that contradicts the strange experiences surrounding it. The history of this chiefs drills very well known and this piece of furniture currently resides in the kentucky. History museum in kentucky. Usa where it was donated by as last aina here is the history of this beautiful piece of furniture jeremiah. Graham was expecting his first born son and an preparation. He ordered his african american. Enslaved person remus to booed this chist in around eighteen thirty. The chist was beautifully crafted with to me. Exquisite details from the tuned leagues to the leaves carved at the top of the history was a piece of furniture lovers afani crafted antique cartons would enjoy however jeremiah was not at all happy with what ramos had created an fit of bed tampa. He beat the poor. Man's teeth grinds other slaved people. Fat vince the d. friend and they sprung the dried blood autumn. How in the chest and head. A conjure man. Otherwise known as a witch doctor put acoust- on the chest ultimately all those associated with the gist would succumb to the power of the coup. Apparently jeremiah himself escaped it. His descendants did not despite the fact that he apparently despised that she has to drools he put it in his unborn child room. His son was born but on the lived a few days every single time from his son's death that someone put personal particularly crossing inside this chasing they subsequently died or suffered some misfortune and tie toll sixteen people was struck by this coups so list talk about the victims and what happened to them. Because it's pretty well documented on the museum's page dedicated to this particular object so the fist victim was jeremiah's child that the cheese was made for who died a couple of days after the booth. The second victim was jeremiah's twin brother. Jonathan's son he has son cars with priced in the chest. The son was stabbed by his body souvent on his twenty first birthday then. The cheapest was placed in the attic by jeremiah. Sister-in-law amanda windchill. Who married into the grime family victims number three and four. Nixon was john ron who was a recent immigrant from ireland. He eloped with catherine wind. Chill amanda wind chill arrange for them both to live on land belonging to the grams and gave them the chist which they both used was code in an accident and then katherine died victim. Number five was one. Louis gregory attilio child off allies and ryan and david john gregory. His clothing was priced in the chest. Victim number six the honest son. Ernest gregory married. Stella starring cypher. Try site net false stella puerto wedding clothing in the gist and dodd less than two years. Later victim numbers seaver. Mabel louise white. He'd a relative to the gregory family came to live with elisa and john. David gregory an eighteen eighty four. She married a wilbur harlem in eighteen ninety seven in nineteen o one mabel and will behead a baby named chester who is closed weaned into the cheapest. Chist died at two weeks of age. The number eight wilbur. Harland's crews replaced in the chest and he died in nineteen ninety five. David gregory's if you im- it was the son of john david sista. Lucy be gregory. Lissi had noted gloves and a scarf in which is percents. Christmas present in nineteen i nine emit worked for the railway and one evening in late december. He got off the train and fell fifty feet through a slow presumably to his death as well victim number ten. Nellie gregory daughter of elisa and john david married freed fries in august. Nineteen i five. Nellie had placed. who win crossing in the chest. He decided to victim number. Lifan when allies. Gregory's john david died in nineteen. Oh eight elisa rearranged to half and move into her room presumably placing clothing on that. She took her life and died on the fourth of april nineteen fifteen. The cheese then moved to louisville with elisa. In john david gregory's granddaughter vicini carry had some cleveland and her husband. Curtly cleveland. She put his child's baby cries in the chest. The baby was born prematurely and died the same day on august. The eighth nineteen fifteen. Virginia had two other daughters. The youngest being and carried cleveland and clothing was placed in the chest. She was struck with polio was. Oh she recovered. She had polio related. Symptoms all her life. The older daughter was which any a hudson cleveland who witting crowding had been placed in richest. She married one for sta in nineteen forty three in nineteen forty. Four watt was rushed to the hospital for an emergency opin to seek to me. He died from an overdose of ether whilst under surgery. Virginia and currently sniper. Herbert h sonny mood. Julia put some of his hunting crews and latest. He was code in a gun accident at the time of neighbors. On abel's of fifth nineteen forty six virginia and currently some richard put his crisis in the chest. Listen a week later. He was stabbed through the hand at school and then it was the final straw virginia. She had had enough of the cheapest and was determined that no one else would die or be injured because of so. She asked a maid named sally who had worked for virginia for most of her life as she knew how to break conjure virginia. And sally vincent about breaking the curse placed so many decades previously in order to break the coup so he told virginia she needed a deed. How broad unasked from a friend. Then she hit to take the lease off a willow tree planted by free and booth for day inside of the l. niks. She was to put the liquid a jug and theriot with the handle facing aged under a flowering bush. They would know. It worked when either. Virginia or sally would die before all the lease fell off the bush in the autumn. What a horrible way to indicate for author of the woman considering they believed this that was incredibly brave of them. Sally died the following. September which of courses autumn in the states before virginia died she donated the chistopher jurors to the kentucky. History museum in nineteen seventy six. She did this because she did not feel that it was right to put it out for some poor unfortunate peasant clete nine. Anyone who put items in the chest could die. She wanted it to be preserved but in a place where in people would not be hood and she made it perfectly clear that it wasn't under any circumstances to be used to this day some of the alpha's remained in the top drew supposedly to keep the it by so entitled counting the unfortunate ramos and sally a total of eighteen. People died as a result of this chased in nineteen seventy eight. A family living in the small town of horror cohen was constant was gripped by what may be the 'unique as if a of haunted children speech room furniture. It sounds funny. But it's actually what they experienced nine months of torment after purchasing a second hand bunk bead. They unleashed an evil entity into the high ellen and david brought the bank from a secret hand shop and move into the home on a quiet lower. Be straight strange. Things began to happen almost immediately. The radio would switch stations on it. Sign the children saw an ugly old woman in the room. She had long black hair and a glare like fire doors. Thank donovan shop. A rocked by itself disembodied voices cooled out from an empty rooms. The tournaments decided to bring in the apostasy. He felt the presence of deal and bliss the house but the activity continued and the sun soon became so skied. He no longer wanted to stay in the house. Frustrated one day and walked into the house shouting at the top of his lungs pick may leave my kids alone. The next day whatever entity was inhabiting his home accepted the challenge. Allen who'd voice from the garage say come here when he went to vista gate he saw the orange glow afar and sought was read. Is steering it through the garage. Dual windows later while embiid sleeping with his frightened children allen witness the faulk rise up out of the floor. It tuned into flames of green is a force emanated out of telling him you did. The was gone a few days later. Relative of the family spent the evening at the house. Helping debbie with the children. Alum watch late. A skeptic of the perrineau moves relative became a believer there night when a horrific figure materialized in the bedroom as he was putting the children to beat the toll. Fleet the harm that night. In the deed of wisconsin winter the story of the haunted house and hurricane took on behalf of its own grind to include blah using from the ceiling. A hole to hell in the basement and sny blah. That cleared the driveway by sale. The sheer contacted the family and mate with them at the station. Many heroin and sleepless nights had ellen and db on edge off to hearing zero kansas events. I've the last nine months. He became convinced offi sincerety at his request. I if he actually she. The details of the experiences with a few slate members of the press who are not seeking to sensationalize a story and promised to protect their identities. The sheriff hoped the trace would twelve grind hysteria ram town but interest on a continued to grow following straight survives on. He eventually decided to release the address off the vacant house to ensure a neighboring harm. The sleeping family didn't get on far. That's pretty scary. And finally we have the story of little bastard. Famous deceased actor. James dean hedda car. He called little bastard which was the pushed. Five fifty and history begins oblique before his death in the car on september. The twenty sued nineteen fifty. Five was driving his pride and joy randall. Sand julie's jiang's measor with a british actor. Alec guinness outside of ristorante guinness was a deeply superstitious man. And after james had sean alec has new product joy elig grayton then unpublished stories. Data's ricard in the car to me exhausted. Hungry feeling a little ill-tempered in spite of ins kindness. I heard myself saying in a voice. I could hardly recognize as my own. Please never get in. If you get in that car you will be founded in. Its by this time next week. Apparently team just laughed a week. Later on september the thirtieth dean in rove with rich a former luftwafte pilot and faked trained push mechanic would drive to cut woods passer blaze in california. When they were a hit on crash with another car was the rich was from from. The car and dean died on the way hospital. The car was lifted. The side of the road. George barris pitches three porsche for two thousand five hundred dollars with the lack intense out tickets to look at because it was a big thing. James was a famous actor and transported the cabot to his shop. The cast lipped off the trailer and broke the league of mechanic. Barris thin so the engine and drive train to troy. Mckenry and william ishrat. The two used parts caviar. I'm emma racing against each other with those pots. Plice henry lost control and slammed undertray. The sampit coaling him instantly issued was driving his car and the wheel suddenly locked up for no apparent reason. Sending the car rolling over in a tune. He was seriously injured. In the crash. To highest from the little bastard when embarrasses garage untouched since the extent that claimed deans laws. He sold the ties and both of them exploded simultaneously causing the driver to run off the road barras had kicked the cat and his position sends the small pox without the salt path and it could the attention of two would be as one of the phase arms was torn open trying to steal the steering wheel. While the offer was injured trying to move the bloodstain totten's seat in pay said appeared in a magazine. Could jalal panic. The kiss apparently continued even fear that quote ju to all the incidents involving little bastard bears decided to hide the car by was convinced by the california highway patrol to the tape to a highway safety. Put the fist. Exhibit was unsuccessful s the carriage. That house the car caught fire and burned to the ground. Mysteriously the cast of finchley timid from the far the knicks efficient at a local high school ended abruptly when the car fell off. Its display and broken. Airbus students hub. Later george barris was fooling the wreckage on a flatbed track and was killed instantly when the port fell on him after he was thrown from his track in an accident. Miss hip after miss hip continued until nineteen sixty when the twisted debris was on line to a safety exhibit. A miami following the exhibit the wreckage and the truck. That was hauling. It mysteriously vanished on the way back to los angeles. Neither have been seen since. 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Universally Rejected - Ep393

Decibel Geek Podcast

53:27 min | 1 year ago

Universally Rejected - Ep393

"This is the DESA bookie podcast with Chris. Zek loved by many hated by bots respected by anyone. Who's ever tried to make a podcast last almost a decade. This is the desk Geek. Podcast my name is Erin. Camaro and I'm joined is always by my awesome friend. Kristen Zag. Hey how's it going man good going on in the world nowadays in in our world in our world specifically rock and roll podcasting whoever thought it could make such a big difference. It's been a soap opera week for for our little bubble of the world. Yeah I told everybody we'd be having a sit down conversation this week about all the things going on and we're definitely going to do that but of course before we get all that we gotta take care of. That business and the business is reviews in recommendations. We don't beg for a lot. This is one thing we'll get down on our knees for and say. Please give us a review in a recommendation. It means so much no reviews this week. The world's crumbling around us the times they changing the botts took our reviews away to Danna win. We'VE BEEN BANNED FROM REVEAL. Be podcasting naked inside of a month. I can't even have clothes. Oh man you're welcome for that visual those of you that know. We look like yeah. Are we going? That was the messaging. You telling me back telling you that. Yeah yes that's correct. Well so if you do feel like leaving us review you know where to do at. Yeah we need some. I know some people that really appreciate us and I know we sure appreciate it last week and Toby right come over. Yeah and breakdown. Jar flies for that was fun man. That was awesome. How amazing I'm still blown away by. How no songs to completed album in like a week. Add and yeah insane written recorded produced and mixed and twenty days. How wow that's crazy but yeah this is truly a truly magical album from a magical time and great having toby on and also his partner. Dj with the Tomes Company and had some feedback because people have tried the trial. And it's working for them. That's so Happy for that. I'm going to try to start at myself soon looking forward to try out because I sure as hell could use some good sleep but Yeah our favorite people that Shared on facebook re tweeted on twitter. Last week's jar flies albums unleashed. I give the week Geeks of the week. This week are Geoffrey. Geoffrey Mendenhall Paul Smith Joseph Capone John Phillips and widely Matt Ashcroft. Aaron Parking David Gregory Karsh McKell Burrell Shea. Target rod taker worn larue Baker. Shane Abor Jason Blue Ski. Cg CNN podcast Trevor. Mcdougal Gino aims the bakery podcast Aaron Baker. David Glenn Greg mcglone Brian Nap in obscurity. Podcast Callahan's Adam Cox Joe Royle and sit and spend with Joe Christopher Stokes Jeff Taylor robinhood. Jj mackel William Ellum Vet Halen twisted kissed her and Esto Aguilar and is always the food or all right. Those are people they shared it. They re tweeted. They love last week's episode. They all been waiting patiently to see what the hell we're going to be talking about this week and Here we are so I guess I kinda hinted it a little bit last week but once again this week. I gotTa tell you any music. You're hearing during this episode. Here today is brought to you by are awesome friends in the band. Jesus Chrysler and we're playing them today in tribute of Craig Duffy. They're awesome drummer. Who recently passed away. Our hearts and prayers go out to the band. Their fans their family their friends. Everybody because you know a good friend of ours here. Geek has been for many many years and even the one thing really love. Most they think about Jesus Chrysler first off their awesome rock band that rate great songs and secondly they do all these awesome skits and videos and stuff and the last couple of days. Bach O.'s been posting a lot of that stuff. And it's funny because I've been we've been doing this for so long known. Baca for so long. I've seen a lot of these videos over the years. And it's almost like you get to know a little bit. Because he's such a cool part of all those videos and he posted kind of like a mash up of different things involved. Duffy in Decided I told him? I don't know if it helps much but I got a few chuckles in a smile out of watching it. Seems like he was a great dude. And you know I'm I'm way too young ago and I'm sorry for for you. Guys is loss and yeah. Enjoy The music that we play a million put a link to some. Jesus Chrysler stuff on. This show knows stops coming off bold statements. That's Jesus Chrysler Album. To awesome one. Go check it out to one of my favorite t shirts where to yeah. I love that shirt. So yeah but yeah so. We've we before we get into the universally rejected title and what that's about Some of you already know I there's some other sad news that we got This week and it looks like the end of the line for the Rock and metal combat podcast. And it's not easy. It's when you start a podcast like this and I joked about it coming into the show. That's now we're almost at this a decade now like a year and a half shy of it That's amazing so many awesome. Podcast have fallen by the wayside. Along the way you know that Kinda come up with US. And that's always a bummer. To see that because what? I've learned is you know podcasting especially rock music. Podcasting is such a brotherhood That we all wanted rise up together and we all want to do something better for the listeners. And so when a man I it's hard to even put it in words when awesome one like rock and middle combat PODCAST DROPS OFF. That is true bomber. Yeah and one of my favorite go to podcasts. Over the years and And also both the in and Ralph became friends of ours multiple. It's it's a sad thing and And you know everybody's got their reasoning for for doing what they do and I'm not gonNA try to stand in the way of them not doing the show anymore because they have to do. What's right for them? And I appreciate everything that they have done over the years but as the organizer of Rock and pot I. I'd like to stand in the way of it if we could if I could but as the organizer of Rock and pot I need to say a things and I need to make a plea for something. Yeah because nobody's GonNa come to Rockin Pot if we're hoping Ian aren't there well I hopefully. You're wrong on that. But they they were a big part of it. The rocket pod Expo would would not be what its become without those two and and they're listenership. The of the and I put a post on their page this morning saying I have a few things to say about this. And listeners of this show need to listen to Decimal Geek this week. A lot of you already do and we appreciate that. But I've got some a few things I want to say. I I get you know if you don't WanNa work together in and Ralph Oprah listening to this. That's fine but I want to propose something. Everything's fresh right now. I don't I'm not taking sides on this. I love both of you. The thing is I'm what I'm making a plea for one time at Rockin pod this year for you guys to get up on stage and do a live rock and metal combat podcast just to ride off into the sunset because a yeah the biggest reasoning. I know you both and I know you both love each other like brothers and for there to be tension and bad feelings right now. That sucks but you guys have too good of a friendship even regardless of whether you do the show regardless of whether you come to the expo or not. I want you guys to Hash that out because as to good guys. I think you guys should work that out between yourselves because you guys have a good friendship even though there's issues now and you guys would tell Aaron either same thing if we were doing this going through this too. I think so. It's not it's not worth you know. Whatever stuff led to this recent decision to blow a friendship up? And then definitely not so. That's my first point but if you guys come I think because here's the thing the listenership of your show as you guys have seen this week the outpouring of love you guys have gotten you guys have probably the most loyal listenership of any rock and roll. Podcast that's out there. I mean and you've and it's well deserved because you you do an entertaining show but you guys have seriously devoted fans and these people come out in mass every year to donate to the expo two to be attendees of the Expo. And this is the this is not about me selling tickets or anything like that this me thinking that the fact that you guys are so ingrained as part of rock and pot and bringing it to be what it is the best way to go out and get together one time give each other a hug or blow job and to crack a few jokes for the people that want to see. You guys do a one more time. That's all that's all I'm asking that's aspect of a to rock and metal combat being such an awesome show and having such a legendary backlog now all the episodes they've done for it to end the way it did. I don't like that. It's just Kinda like if you're new when you discovered it you loved it. You listen from their very first step so all way up to the end you'd feel bad because there's no closure right so even if you guys can't have don't work together anymore give your listeners. Some closure yeah just do the one hang on well with us at rock and not the same without you guys and all and you don't have to like do any shows leading up to this. You don't even have to talk to each other leading up. I just want both of you to you. Could private message me and just agree to it. That's IT and show up and do it but I I want the hatch to get buried not in each other's heads but but I want you guys to do this because I think I think it's worth it's worthy thing and I think The listeners will do it. And so there's a lot of rocket medal combat podcast listeners. Hearing me say this join me and harassing both Ian and Ralph and pushing them to do this. Because I think it's the best way to do it and tell them if they don't do it they have to deliver the podcast. Kings crowns to US immediately. I like that. Yeah as runner up. Yeah to the awesome tournament that tore the world apart years ago. If you guys don't do this at rocket aired and I are going to get fitted for crowns. Yes so if that doesn't motivate you. I don't know so I've said my piece listeners. You know what to do. Yeah tell those guys in the clip of this. Tell them we love you and we want you to do this one more time. Some shirts printed out Ralph in for Rock and Pied Twenty Twenty and do the Iowa's their shirt. We do the whole thing with this. You know whatever whatever it takes because we don't need a Tommy say or in rock and metal combat podcast separately for next subject future. Desperate bombshells draw saw last week. We're not quitting. He's man we can't celebrate decade Decibel Geek in a year and a half. Now we have to get to the tenure argues so we can use that phrase you damn right finally bust out some best of episodes luck editing that ten years of clips so way way back when we started doing this the one main thing that we looked at is what can we do with Decibel Geek. What can we do to help? Rock and roll and the main thing was just let's showcase classic rock eighties rock nineties. Rock new stuff you know. Let's cover it all. Let's let's try to make a resurgence in rock and roll and if nothing else let's find other people out there that loved the rock music as much as we do and let's turn them on to all kinds of stuff and that's why. Malt liquor is doing stadium tours because of us. Let's not correct. Take credit for that. I'm sorry I'm getting ready for my crown because we put them back together right but yeah no. You're saying so all we ever wanted to do with celebrate rock and roll and help rock and roll so we talked about in the beginning. You know what should be of course. One of the ideas came up. One of the original original ideas was the radio sucks radio show coined by Aaron Camaro and would explain it. You know we're just going to play radio deejays and we're GONNA play some music that you're not hearing anywhere else that other outlets should be showcasing right for the bands. That just aren't getting it. The way they used to and that was like from there were like and we'll do albums and leash. We'll do this year reviews and all that on it just kind of branched out from there. So radio sucks. Radio show is really a staple. I don't remember what we're up to. But there's a lot of thirty eight or thirty nine close to forty nice and that's where it ends so I guess so before last week I didn't even know we were on spotify. I submitted a Six seven months ago. I think you know you can just you? Could you could submit your feed to it okay. Because they were asking for you know anybody and everybody if you have a podcast as like fuck it. Why not sure so. Yeah if you don't know we were on spotify for a few months and then we got off. I figured out when we got well. No actually. It's not I don't I don't know when we got talking up until up until the last episode. We were there because yeah anyway. The stat thing changed with our host company and but like they were tracking spotify. Listens separately. Like you could hit a tab and it was show you which episodes had what downloads but then after November. They just lump it all in together It wasn't a giant part of our audience. Now no but I mean but we had a few people get vocal when we got taken off saying. Hey where the hell's decimal gingas how I listen and certainly wasn't our decision While we got somebody brought it to our attention that we were gone. And then I'm like why. Why never got a notice about this or anything and then the next day? I got the email saying Basically from spotify I think it was like content control team or something and it says universal music put in a complaint that we were infringing on their copyright of music and we had five days to appeal it with Universal Music. And if we win that appeal then go back to spotify say. Hey here's documentation that. We won the appeal. And then they'll think about reinstating the podcast but we don't have illegal and people have asked me over the years you know so you guys play music right. Yeah can you do that and I always said well. I don't know to be honest with you. I'm not one hundred percent sure what I do know. Is that every episode. We do that. We play music on. All we're doing is basically you know trick in listeners into listening to the best infomercial that there could ever be. Yeah because we're not making money on it no so all we're doing. Is You know gathering up people who are fans of this music and exposing them to your I guess to them would be Prada Right L. to somebody else it'd be art but to them. It's their product. We're exposing people to your product and intern. We've got numerous examples of people that have heard something on Decibel Geek and have gone out immediately. Embodied we've had people that have bought in the entire discography of a band after hearing some of their stuff on our show. I think you know for physical sales. I bet we've you know we've we were right up there with the amount of money that artists are making off spotify. We're moving units. We're moving help more than a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a penny. That's the funniest part of this. Whole thing is is a company that basically screws the artist taking us down because we're supposedly screwing the artist I don't know but I mean this is basically all done through universal music right because if you talk to an artist and we've talked numerous over the years they love it. They love it that phrase playing their song and talking about it and you know exposing people to it in an age where a new. Sebastian Bach. Single isn't getting played on your local radio citing for example and you know an outlet where people are still talking about it and still care about it and want to be exposed and things like that and then in turn go. Purchase the product down. And I know there's there's a few know it alls that are listening to this gone. We'll do it legally. You can't do that and we know and you're right and I get it I get the legal part of it. You know we can be screwed and tattooed and sued for everything but just what was that a sleaze B's album. Yeah good one. I'll have to look and see if we do. We owe money because I said the name sleaze. And here's where we put the song But now I I get the the argument that we can't but you know in like I've had people come to me and you know how do you get away with that and I'm like well? It's essentially the wild west. And you know we view ourselves as an infomercial. We always push people to buy products hallway. We byproduct ourselves absolutely Just for example. I thought this was funny that the Radio Sucks Radio. Show Classic Rock Edition. Yeah every song that we played on there. I own the CD. Yeah every single song. So isn't that some sort of ownership? Not when you're just going to just take a picture myself holding up the CD and send it into spotify or universal and like you go proof I own it yet and then they'll say okay. Now tell the thousands of people that listen to it to send pictures of them holding the CD. I we don't arguments. We really don't own. We really don't have an argument legally but I think our intentions are pure of heart as they would say always always from day one. All we've ever wanted to do was help and we handle. Yeah but at the end of the day when universal comes around and says We really don't have much of a choice. Respect their wishes so we've gone back and forth over what to do. Let's look at what we lose now in forward while we definitely lose the radio sucks radio show. So that's the throw US August. Say now go to spotify. Click play on this song. Never ever do that now. I hear the people. That unsubscribe to spotify just because of what happened to right and there's a lot of people that probably got on spotify just because it was an easier way. Maybe they thought it is convenient. Yeah I I'm a spotify user. I'M NOT GONNA I'm not. It's incredibly convenient. I've discovered a lot of cool music valley. But if it's something that's really cool that I discovered I do buy it. Yeah But Anyway so. Yeah so that yeah. Radio Sucks is definitely gone we. We've we're viewing this as a chance to freshen up the show challenge. It is challenged to make things better so we discuss some things but I think I think it's fun normally we'd do something like this just for our VIP's but I think it's important to include everybody in our little discussion of what the future holds for desperately Geeks so we definitely lose. Radio Sucks Radio. Show now as far as your reviews. Go if we ever do one of them again. I think we can do it. We just don't have the songs in there and even at that there's some question about clips. Yeah what you can and can't do. It's there is documentation out there. That basically if you're doing something as far as like a commentary and you're highlighting talking about a certain band or a certain thing that you can get away with a clip but that's exactly what you're in review is pretty much It's just an example of what you're talking about So we might still do. We're going back and forth on this. We're we're trying to figure it out ourselves guys because we didn't. I guess we Kinda saw this coming but our biggest fear is that spotify just the first domino to fall right. Yeah so we want to be here for you alway. We don't want to get completely act so we're going to do what we can to make the show even better and not feel like religion much because we're really not introduce some cool new set to exactly. So here's what I'm thinking. There's going to be more albums. Unleash right yeah. So we're going to buckle down on our interview more of them. More interviews will do more year and reviews. We still do them. We can't do top. Five songs of Sirte rates eras but that could fall under the commentary. Things we can still discuss everything and it's cooled and all that over the years. A lot of people have sent us messages and said I skipped through the songs most the time. Yeah dislike to hear you guys talk and I think a lot of you do. It'll be interesting to see when it's a little less music. Heavy response is going to be a guess. What I think I can bus out more CAMAROS cut out bins. Because nobody's GONNA come chasing after us over those bands because they are not big famous huge name bands right well. I don't know I'm not. And we really not an expert. We can reach out to our friends. At frontiers yeah and rat pack records and other companies. That have you know. We're going to see great so it's going to be an experimental you know but and obviously new noise will continue. Oh yeah totally. See no reason for new noise. Then the best thing about new noise is when we play a band and then eventually we get a letter from somebody saying we can't play them no more. That means we did it. We got him to where they needed to be. And then we'll we'll be happy to get those letters and we'll get them. We'll probably say this band hate. They were a fresh blood ban two years ago. And now look. We're getting letters from universal on that and on that note. We're we're on the lookout for more independent artists. I just signed artists that we can get away with playing so in upcoming week sometime real soon. I'm getting a desperately Geek. Po Box and we'RE GONNA welcome any rock bands that want their stuff played on Decimal Geek to send it to us. Not only will. We most likely play it. I'm going to add it to the Decibel Geek Library. Yeah and it will live on honor and prestige forever. That's physical product exactly. So I'll figure that out. I'll get the PO box will make it official and we do some other cool stuff too. So we've been kind of going over some cellphone. We've got a ton of awesome ideas and things we can do to. Maybe I don't know make up for losing some music as we figure out what we can and can't do another idea. I had and I think you're okay about this is Like basically like assigning each other stuff to review and the comeback the next week we could make it into like a gambling thing or something where we bet on we bet on. Nado no chart position of something or I don't know like maybe take like great old records like Psych Kiss alive or kiss destroyer and like bet on if rolling stones original review was positive or negative. That's actually not a bad idea. You never know and then like whoever's whoever's wrong has to listen to an album that the other one reviews and we can you can. I could assign US something horrible that you have listen to and come back and talk about or could be something wrong. Mike. You haven't heard this and you need to hear it. It can go either way okay. Yeah that sounds fun. We experiment with that Doing some trivia stuff to. That's what I was thinking. I would like to compile a list of phone numbers but I want people that listen to this show to send in their phone numbers to us so that we can randomly call you and get you on the show with sometimes the rock and Rolodex ones. We kinda like Iraq and ROLODEX are. We can pick a question. Just one question and say. Let's go to the ROLODEX. Okay and just call. People are going to do and ask them that one single question. We want to get more interactive with you because you guys are all awesome in some of my Scott favored episodes are the ones where people have come on the show. Just fans just like us. They don't have to be a producer of Grammy Award winning album. You know. They don't have to be most awesomely guitar player around. You know it can be fans just like you and me you know that. Tell the best stories we had guys like Starsky. On and on the other ones that came on to help out rock and Pied in the last few years. Those are honestly my most favorite episode. Great Yeah when our friends come on and share their rock and roll stories with us. I liked that a lot and also we're going to open. We'll open up the form you guys because we're we're basically now in an idea stage so if you have the wheels are turning if you have great ideas send them in. We'll we'll look at what we can do because entertaining because we're thinking about you know how we can do this and the more ideas the better and it's just stuff we can try and we were like. Hey that didn't work or this was off. I like the gambling idea. Let's come up with ways that we can torture each other. You've got a in that so I thought since we are universally rejected. I think it's really important to look through at the bands that you will no here. Full Song depressing on the Decimal Geek. Podcast is going to be depressed and so I want you to know the gravity of this so the first Donald Listen. It's a long list and these are just ones that really applied so the first one is the most obvious and I don't know how we didn't get shut down two years ago when we did this when we did our episodes about the Beatles. Yeah the heavier side has eagles. Those they'd get shut down that one alone should have been the one that sunk because their they're lawyers are hungry. No George Harrison. No John Lennon no Paul McCartney Ringo Starr Kristen Eck. You can't even play Yoko Ono. That's quite all right on the week. Podcast I'm sparing humanity so the Beatles. Thank you Universal Beatles. You're out sorry all right. The rest of the band's I just kind of go down the list Three doors down. We've never planning a big deal audio slave. I don't think we've don't maybe audio slave but I don't see why one day we wouldn't so bomber. They were okay Blink one eighty two. He ever see ourselves planning. I really don't know the bloodhound gang. No problem there. I kind of like some of their stuff. I liked it when I was really high riding around in a car when it was new. Well our idea of doing a reggae rock episode is out the window. God no Bob Marley errands. Worst ideas ever. You don't like that really not going to like this. No Bon Jovi now. I'm sad. Good thing we already played all the good stuff four or five times. We played Bon Jovi Hater on the show. Eight or the early stuff. This is the man who spun several tough songs. Just so you got off is awesome. No Boston Boston. I do to know Bryan Adams. We still talk about the kiss songs he wrote. We can still do that machine No Buck Cherry. These bands are all too big for us. That's fine they don't need no help. Universal is got them on every radio station. Sure they're making a ton of money. I'm sure just like the butthole surfers. Oh I do too well I I see playing some of that. You'll be some of the good stuff No Chris Cornell I guess that goes along with the audio slave note shoulder a bottom so knowles lack metal episode. Ever sorry if you were holding off for that so upset. I'm going to burn a church down. Here's one that was kind of surprised to see on this list. Coal Chamber Coal Chamber. Nice to meet you. I know I wish we'd have played some great. Write COVER WITH OZZY. Osbourne shock the monkey. Yeah I remember that. Here's another one crash diet that's abandoned the that's big like Glam metal lower but I never really got on board with them. I've tried several times to somebody is because they're they're universal artists. No more tributes Gary Corbett because we cannot play any Cindy Lauper. Already days are done. This one saddens me no dancing. Yeah I'm GonNa Miss Dancing. I would like to have done a top five. Dan's songs that would have been pretty. We'll get to play anything off the Dan's ex sings elvis album. Oh that's coming up. No they're taking it from us Universal cording this universal. Don't care if we play. Blondie but we cannot play any solo. Debbie Harry Yeah. You're pulling all these artists that we'd never deep purple man. Yeah the purple is done. Def LEPPARD I know we've shown a lot of love to deep purple. Def LEPPARD on his show There will be no dire straits or Doro or dragging four zero. I loved Dora. Dora hurts a little bit. No Duran Duran sure your morning. Now in durant comes back with their rock album. The durant durant thrash album. Well this one kind of bums me out. It was Kinda surprised beyond this list. If dwayne the Rock Johnson ever decided to come over the heavy metal album we will not be able to feature on the show. He has a record deal with universal. So I guess really if he ever does decide to come all with one. Maybe it's a spoken word thing I don't know I have no idea. But that's pretty awesome by by the rocks heavy metal album. No there's one copy sold this is one. I kind of always wanted to do a heavier side of because they do have some heavier stuff. I would've liked it. The Eagles Eagles get enough money already. But I think we could've squeezed out a pretty good heavier side of the eagles but we were not on the case with that. I wonder if we can get away with doing any of these music stuff episodes on patriots probably not because those are people that are supporting the show. That's true so thinking aloud. Suppose there was like an underground way of doing it. Yeah pirates pirates on the podcast or who else. Oh this one's good news for me but bad news for you. There will never be any Elton. John Played on the desk John Hater. Yes Dodge bull with that one. We'll get that no evanescence no exodus. That's that does suck. I was bummed out by accidents. No finger eleven finger. Eleven there rock. Aren't they yeah? I was having her that name like fifteen year. But they're on there okay bigshots. Here's another one that surprised me flaw. Remember Flaw Yeah. It's been a long time. Yeah early two thousand big band. There's yeah there went on tour with finger. Eleven it will probably God smack include Sully Erna Solo stuff. You can't play any go-goes Chris. Well Damn I'm going on vacation this one these next. These ones are going to hurt. This one's going to be painful. No great white. No guns and roses. No heart muscle has no heart us. That's sad know him know. Hinder no imagine dragons. I'm just be I realize you're going in alphabetical order. Let's get to the painful ones. Iron Maiden Joe Walsh. There will never be a heavier side of Johnny cash. No Joe Sasha Yanni it sucks. I'll like Joe. I know kiss well. I knew that was going to happen. I mean I've known universal own them for a while I love doing kiss episodes in wildly is like doing backflips right now over. The thought that we're never going to guess again. I can't kiss. How can we do it? How can this show continue without playing kiss kiss July with no music? It's just GONNA be Maybe here's an idea we can talk to toby. And you know how you sell about his tomes. How they give you feelings of relaxation. Yeah you know. And sometimes he can make it where they make you feel weird and things like that. What if like I said? Okay so what I would play here is cold Gin. And you're gonNA play tone instead what we're GONNA do is put in a section of Tomes that Toby Wright has master engineered to give you the feeling that you would feel as if you were hearing cold? Gin and then you'd be like a next. We're GONNA play read my body until we make up a thing that make you feel anxious and weird inside nauseous. Little nauseous to yeah and be like. That's how you would feel had. We played that Song you're insane. I don't know what else. Oh man no kiss. That's that's terrible. I mean although we'll sad kiss D- I really don't listen to kiss much anymore. What it's just ingrained in my DNA. Now I don't even need to listen to you know. See that's it you know like a you know. I selected this track off the first kiss album and it's black diamond industry that we sing it all comes back and says please pleased are playing songs. Yeah your despair besmirching our our product. We'll just sing the songs poorly Black Damn all God. No no more. That's what people are starting to think. The songs sound like nothing we talk. And if we'RE GONNA if we're going to do it that way. I'm really looking forward to doing the limp. Iskin episode Lipinski. Yeah no Olympics get no Marilyn. Manson no MEATLOAF MEATLOAF. This is GonNa hurt to the big three. The Big Three of the EMS metallic megadeath and Metal Church meddled San Mateo Care. Much for mental. I group them together. Yeah because they are in alphabetical order so it lifts Metal Church up in importance but yeah. We've I'm going to skip ahead. No Zebra Right. We've done we don't plenty of Plenty of megadeath. And metallica support bands. We've I mean there's there's a back catalog to listen to. Maybe that's the way they look at it too. It's like you know what these guys been putting out albums for all these years and when they put out new albums people actually go out and bu the shit out of and so. There's no reason for you guys to play the songs because you know it's we're already we're universal. We got it covered. Ama- don't you worry about it? It's all about money you guys need to concentrate on some of the smaller labels and some of the up and coming bands to get them to where we can snatch them up and squeeze the pennies. I wonder I wonder if we're going to hear from people that go. I'm unsubscribe today because I can't get on board with the changes. I guess we'll probably lose a few pan. The idea of never hearing is e. Song again on the desk. I guess we probably will lose some listeners. For this maybe. So but where are you gonNa go if you are? One of those people have to listen to radio. Thank you for listening. Furlong as you did. That's how this was gonNA bring you down a lot. My friend what you will never get to do that. Awesome three part special on nickelback. You've always dreamed of. How will I ever go on? I know that's it. I thought you'd say well that's it. I guess we are canceling the show after all. So you're in. I sat means you. Did you skipped over in? E which means Juice Newton is safe to play J. Jus I look that made the joke for you. I looked at She is safe as far as I know. All right until we get a letter from somebody else. I of the juice radio all Jews all the time. Here's a great song by METALLICA. That you'll love but instead I'm going to play Juice Newton and here it is. Yeah sounds maybe. That's what we do. For every verse. Sorry insure it is like okay. Here's a song by pink floyd and goes into juice new again but we talked about a different song. We come out of it and be like man. I love the way. Roger Waters Sings on that one. Yeah sounds good to me. All juice we'll retain a lot of subscribers doing that. I mean there's some of mine here the offspring P. O. D. Papa Roach Pat Benetton Patty. Smyth pen shop boys alarming. That Antara doesn't really affect us. No they were ATCO records. I don't know who owns them now. Though Phantom blue that's a eighties female rock band? Phantom blue is on this list that surprising. That's GonNa hurt if we ever do Queens noise again. I think we played them in the past right. Maybe we've talked about him. I know that no queen. You'll never have the opportunity to turn me on. To whom he now. I will never be a Queen Fan. Thank you universal music. You did that. You denied me. Being turned onto queen for their. I would go buy a bunch of Queen albums so do heavier side a t shirts and all these things that Chris was planning on doing an episode where he played me. Stop that I would like by Queen. I'll make you spotify playlist. Good luck with that that way they can make fact ticket. Make a fifteenth of a call. Now I will never like Queen because I will never experiment with it further than I have run to Q. That's on you universal Queens of the Stone Age. That hurts me. I love that band Queen's Reich that sucks too Know they own everybody. The ramones we slept on doing the other episode Marquis. We're going to do on the ramones the other year stop. We didn't get to do that and still do conversation however we can easily still do a conversation. See this where the perfect example of is. Who's a big ramon span that we know while our friend? Marquis is a huge Ramones Fan. And he's always wanted to come on the show and talk to us about it and so why not you know and anybody else out there that you say we would say okay. We would like to do a show about the Queens of the Stone Age who out? There is a huge fan of this band right. We find him they come on. We talk about. We have fun because we're all fans and we got that awesome perspective on things and we can keep our show going and you guys know where to go to find music so listen to it and then like I'm going to check that out. Check it out. If you need the Red Hot Chili peppers you go on to spotify we will never be able to rick role anybody. 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Yeah they'll be begging us no time here taking. We'll we'll bring the CDs to your house. Invaild suicide himself so hope so at the end basically the show goes on. We're not going nowhere. We're GONNA come up with some cool ideas. We're going to do some new things. It's going to be a lot. Less music played unless it's mostly Bhai bands. Maybe you never heard of before bands at actually are Hungary. You know that aren't already being taken care of. That's what we gotta concentrate on anyway. Because I guess if you break down yeah we always celebrate the legends. We're always going to talk about these bands. You know we're going to do things like new noise and keep up the current product a little bit more now but we're still going to break off and do a lot of our classic stuff as well and we're going to experiment on new things also so very cool hand on the on the music side you know. I like to think that we're good judges of of decent stuff you haven't heard before and yeah. 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The Grid 037 ft. David K Lappin  Pocket-Fives

The Grid

44:16 min | 1 year ago

The Grid 037 ft. David K Lappin Pocket-Fives

"Data feel it hit me. Welcome to the grade. I'm your host Jennifer Shoddy and we'll be taking thirteen thirteen episode journey through every possible no limit holdem hand. One hundred sixty nine has in total from. Ac's to seven days officer each episode. I'll interview another top poker player personality about their hand. Once a Combo is taken. It's gone so this podcast will become progressively more difficult as hands like ace. King are moved from the head whether you spend hours poring over grids as you study. Poker loved listening to had history pause while grinding cash or just interested in absurd scavenger hunts. We're GONNA have some cards dealer of hit me. They seem he's awesome data. Hello everyone and welcome back to the grid. I'm Jennifer Shahada. And today I have a very special guest a professional poker player with over five hundred K. Enlivening several million online. Our guest today is a blogger in an award winning podcast holes of the chip raise. He's originally from Ireland and he is the Hilarious David Lavin and today his claiming from his home base in Malta. Cleveland be peeling back the curtain into his life before he became a professional poker player when he was a screenwriter poised to life in TV and film production. The hamming question is pocket of course very critical holding to click off the grid. I'm sure those of you who are listening have plenty of memories with Vada can but with no further ado here. He is the best friend of me. The Grades Guy David Lobban. Hello and welcome to the show. David Gregory on the show Jay after say first off your injuries a friend of mine. Yuv Some had with this show manage to harness the raw excitement of a random person. Telling you want history on the break with the unadulterated form of chart. So congratulations on Sata compliment. Or I can't tell but that's okay. That was the point right. That's what a frenemies are far indeed so this hand really intrigues me. Because you know we have a lot of straightforward hand histories and the grid. Something crucial. That happened in somebody's career. A big heads up moment for bracelet or the biggest pot they ever played and things like that have never happened to you. Well can we just keeping just? Let's get this over with. I don't know how you're going to cook this idea where you're going to stitch come on so we know seriously it's me. This is really interesting because it's kind of also a big turney moment in your career as you had this path between writing and poker these kind of a joint passion so this comes from a script that you can you give us some insight into like where you were with your career and writing and poker at the time and when you wrote it. I was in the been to be honest. I I had been commissioned by the national broadcaster non to write a TV show which was of my own creation so that was pretty cool. I was in my early twenties and I was getting my own show getting to be show on my own show. And then having written four of the six episodes the economy crashed in Ireland. I like to blame that. Maybe they just decided to show and they decided they didn't want to go with it anymore. So I then had to sort of move away from the TV shows writing writing another TV show as well with another friend. And I thought well I better get some formal training in the screenwriting business. My background was in philosophy so I did a master's in screenwriting and the Masters thesis if you like was actually a finished script so I sort of wrote the script for the for the qualification for the masters and sort of was already in the poker world so it has kind of a poker theme to. How old were you at the time you say? Oh I was probably like twenty five or six when I wrote the first draft of this and did you get a g I got. I did get my master's out of it but I did not get a feature film on the big screen. Which is the real. So so you actually sent me the script and it's really fascinating kind to read the whole thing But you did. You did some of the expert where Keyhan came came up. I'm can you. Can you set it up for us? Like we're the movie set and the main characters that come up in the scene. Yeah absolutely well I suppose first of all one of the big struggles. I was having writing poker scenes and I think you know a lot of people who ever tried to Rice for poker will feel this is what is very visual so I was always trying to figure out ways to make these poker scenes a bit more exciting in the rule. I sort of made for myself. Was that the poker scenes tattoo to be grammatically based on an iconic movie scene of a different nature. Westerns would kind of fit the bill. Where Manu Manu and I sort of hoped thus by following those rules the poker scenes in the movie which are sparing. 'cause it's basically a love story with poker as a backdrop would be dynamical and would have a bit of to them and was sort of my way around the pitfall of like a boarding badly looking poker seeing. That didn't really have any drama. So in this story IT'S VEGAS. It's the nineteen hundred S. It's as I said a love story. But sort of a side one. The Poker Casino World are the backdrop. Our hero is called Johnny. He's a poker player and bit of a degenerate to be honest. His starting point as a character was SORTA Schulmberger but he did change a lot through the scripts developed probably becoming a bit more like me and a bit more like my back story and that type of thing. The movie opens on a bus going down to Vegas Strippers neon lights out the window electronic stuff. We see Johnny thirty years. Old Asleep is heads leaning against the window. His hand holding onto this tarry brown leather bookies briefcase arrested his lap. He's kind of skinny guy. Wears a white eighties shirt. His hairs a SORTA Brown Of Greasy hair wears circuit or glasses. I guess again. I'M GONNA drawing longer and in many ways here. The bus stops. He had his head falls forward slightly wakes up and he gets off the both walks. Maybe a couple of blocks down the vegas trip. This almost like the opening sequence of the movie. The sounds are muted and garbled or at least that was how. I imagined it so it was almost like he was underwater or he was kind of asleep and He reaches the door binion's back in the day sort of Imagine again eighties binion's on the Strip. They're starting on under strip. Sorry in the Old Town. There is world series of posters on display. The door is guarded by a bouncer. Who Won't let him in but another guy sort of pushes the hand away. Let's men so we're sort of intrigued. Okay this guy. Is Somebody the door? The casino opens on buying or play the noise of the Casino and style people and all the machines and whatnot. It's no longer garbled. So that's kind of the moment. Like it's almost like he wakes up and he's back moments and we realized this is sort of meaningful. We see his point of view. Sort of walks down the casino flurries carrying this bag. He gets to the queue of the cashier cage. There's only one cashier there. The Guy who's lemon so we who seems to know sort of Russia's in behind the cashier Section and takes them immediately. So we'RE GONNA LIKE. Oh He is definitely somebody were meant care about this guy. Go says it's good to see says good see too and the it cuts to him playing this so stunning at the table Johnny. He takes stock of CHIPS FROM HIS CHIP TRADE. Plcs on the table. We of get a freeze frame. That it's nineteen eighty s binion's Horseshoe Casino John into the hand he sitting in the code off. Still Standing Bexley. He peaks at his car. He's got the five hearts five documents. He counted four hundred chips. I guess I sort of an open you might done back. Then puts the pastor and takes the siege player on the button than a twenty six year old guy. David's I guess he's kind of a fresh face in poker for the time. You know. Mostly the demographics at the table would have been older people. He looks down. His cars came site some chips and look John Smiling. Make It fifteen hundred S. These guys are probably paying ten case. Stacks players in the blindfold. One OF THEM IS FIFTY. Eight rolled. Big Bill Cowboy Hat. Sorta Guy Imagine Your Oil Brewington type of character here. John Leans forward surveying David over the top of his sunglasses. Which sort of hang off the tip of his nose. He's got one of those. Rasputin intense stares johns. I call dealer To players as the dealer we see the flop jacket clubs knowing spades six of hearts so you know pretty terrible stop David looks down at the board. John completely disregards. The board just looks at David intensely and then I guess almost I had imagined it like a shooter on a camera. He does this like fast. Double Blink with the middle the gap in the blink him looking at the boards and he actually leads out for two K here which is sort of a bit of a dunk bet really. Let's be honest. David Look Sentence. Gypsies visibly countenanced. He's knowing K. Left the obvious movers to kind of go all in here and then he looks at John. Who's gazed is like razor fixed on a tension is eventually broken by John who says I know what you're thinking you're thinking he's gotta medium Pucca Paris Molin here he can co and I might be true except for the fact that you have as King so look. You might lucky. You might hit the ace of the king. But I'M GONNA have to call so nervously with his chips. David looks at him then glances at his cards. He does have the king and he just tosses the cards saying okay. I'll give you this. John Pushes the glasses higher. Ropes face and takes a peek at the cards again before mocking them. The young fellow David says you know introduce themselves and and then asks him who he is at which point Sam. This burly jovial fellow starts laughing. Says all these Yeoman's hall John Jones smiles and he says that he used to be the case that he was young at the young guy. David's even more confused Says look at the behind their kids. At which point David looks around. It's the wall of past world series of poker champions and we see black and white photo depicting a younger fitter healthier looking and some fresh-faced John Sitting at the final table surrounded by press media tournament director. Who was not guy? We've actually seen the new looked after them to peacock feathered muddles on either side of a million and half a million in cash on the table. The photo we are seeing immediately becomes live action and suddenly were transported back to that time and our story. Sorta properly begins then. This is just a a really gripping scene to kick off your your movie which wasn't made but hey it's not too late David. I gotTa tell you though when I when you're when you're rereading that I couldn't help but think that You could tell that this was written by a young talent because only somebody in their twenty S. Think that thirty years old old. And I'm like well I'd like this old washed up thirty year old right then you realize how how young and beautiful people look on their thirty an exception to this general pretty much mass and it's been a down. It's been a journey since I was twenty three so this feels right to me but seriously this hand this kind of Econo- can between five and ace gang you modeled it after a real found any you yes so. I don't know maybe some of your maybe more film aware listeners have already figured it out book. It's essentially dirty Harry that seeing that famous scene where I think he was eating the Burger in the diner and then he sees it. Robbery happened across the road. It's that classic. Clint Eastwood thing of him. Going on. Fuck I guess. I have to go over there and handle this. All I WANNA do is eat my burger so he goes over and he's got the guns and he's fire in a bit of a shoot out as the robbers leave and shots are fired and we're not quite sure what the number is but anyway eventually. Harry standing over the guy and the guy is looking at. It could potentially reach himself. But Harry's got the gun pointed at him and he says I know what you're thinking you're thinking diddy five or did he fire six. Well you have to ask yourself the question. Do you feel lucky. We'll do you and it's fantastic moaned of the guy trying to replay the craziness of to shoot pink. Should I risk is? I'm going to get my head blown off if I'm wrong. I can't take the chance and I thought well that's great because there's something very poker you both that. Which is that you know at some level. You're tournament life. Is Your Life if you get eliminated. You're gone and this guy doesn't WanNa take that chance here and now early on. He wants to live to fight another day. If you like when you talk about like the disheveled nature now of John. You know seven years after winning the world series of poker champion in your script. Is it also that? He's lost a lot of money because the very last line of the extra that you gave me is a mock interview between John. And Gabe Kaplan where Gabe asks so. Tell us what's a twenty five year old going to do with five hundred k? Gabe puts the microphone up to John's mouth. After a short pause John Links and then shrugs and says well I'll gamble it. Yeah so that that is I kink an actual longer lean. Maybe from back in the day again when I was researching this I was using some source material. That might have been from Nolan Book. Maybe I got that or something but there was general attitude with which is that like winning. That sort of money was just more money to gamble with. And I guess that's the the life led obviously lived a troubled life with drugs and other things as well as their voices and very much thera- part of this character story as well. Yeah you know. That's that's interesting and I think it has a lot to do with like this philosophy of just winning money and then wanting to just put it into gambling and other like quote Unquote Fund pangs associated with Youth. But I also feel like I associated. Now that I'm a parent as Having both be luxury and the curse of living almost fully in the present right where you know if you're totally living in the present you've got to spend the money now right now you and I are both parents. So it's kind of hard to conceptualize that you wouldn't figure out what to do with a couple of hundred thousand dollars because you're like. Hey I can always save it for my family right. Be Pretty hard to spend it right. Let's be honest. That's I very excited this week because my girlfriend somehow ordered a new shower hats and that was like the biggest thing we've bought in the last crazy Montana and I thought wow that's cool we've had and it's really good. It's much better than the old one. And that's not so much I had a little score line the other day and I'm like well what can I buy? I can donate to some online fundraisers I can buy some expensive nail Polish. You know there's there's nothing there's not much to do. You can't go out and have like a boozy line and buy some new shoes right exactly but seriously about the script. So E was John kind of on a downward spiral or was classic. Riches drags back to riches story. I guess it's more of an emotional journey for him as a person the the money I guess sort of reflects worries at you know when we meet him early on he he starts off rich. We we only really begin with them after he's won so we don't know what his backstory is. We find out pretty quickly. He's pretty degenerate with the way he uses the money the much value it as money that can help his life putting me woman and he enters into a love affair with her and she he he discovers on their first stage. I think was in the story that she has a song. And it's kind of him taking on the responsibility of being a parent a little bit like what you were saying their moment to go and figuring out who he wants to be and figuring out what the Clinton Monte wants to be parallels for him between his relationship with his father figure who's actually is. His father died young and his uncle is sort of his father figure and we also actually also be his father. That's kind of part of the story to boost. It's this sort of notion of like well. Somebody took on the responsibility for him at some point to be a father to and and that is very much a character in the story. So he's very much a an ever-present figure in both the mirroring of that for John to do the same thing for this woman who actually dying in the stories engine quite early on that she's terminally ill so it comes down to him having to make a choice. That's very unselfish. This kid and also a choice of he wants to be in life. I guess the financial still sort of mirrors or becomes part of the journey as he wins and loses or his more or less responsible with the money. But it isn't a poker movie. I hope it's of a movie set in the Poker World Real people and when you reread scrapped. Is it something that you still feel very close to is like a movie that if you have the time we try to promoting get made or do you feel like you would try to create another script with elements of it? That's a great question. I think I would want it to be made in some form because I think it wasn't too bad like the very first thing that TV show. I talked about backup commission when I read. That back now. Feels very part of me. I would have wished it had happened because I'm sure it would have open doors to even how to show made even if it wasn't that good. I don't think that show would have been that good. It was of its time. It was at twenty three year old writing. Tv show that he'd just come up with so I was pretty green but as time has passed I wrote another. Tv show with a A friend of Mine Ray. And I think that's probably the best thing I've written and this would be the next thing in the locker of your life that I would like to develop. But it's been a long time. This is the thing about me. I I sorta never planned to be poker player. I taught I would be a writer and then got kind of humiliated by the writing process. And the begging. Broadcasters and commissioning editor is to pay me to write process and humbling all that is and miserable. Actually really. Because you're very passionate about something you kinda get kicked in the face of the bit similar to I guess. And after his life I was very keen to grasp some control over my own life again and poker playing actually provided that for me because I was sort of one man show. You know you can do your still do. You can read the books as I would have been then or watched the videos now. You can become a better player and you can figure it out and you can be self sufficient and independent and you don't have a boss telling you what to do. And that was such a huge part of what my soul needed at the time to just clamber onto that control again so so it was poker was like it gave me and then. I got really into the game and I love the game still to this day although probably a bit of a mixture of the playing site at on the other aspects of what I do and poker these days. Yeah for me. The biggest thing would have been getting back controlling. I never planned on being a poker player. I always tell all end up going back to writing and I just never have and now it seems so far away it seems so long ago. You obviously are a podcast host of the chip raise and you do a lot of writing and production on that. So do you feel like you're creative? Outlet is fulfilled in some ways with like the blogging. That you do the chip raise or do you still have this yearning for like a big juicy hamburger of writing project percents. The blog was the first thing I became obsessed with running my own journey and poker. I I guess that was how I scratched that. H and and then the opportunity to do. The podcast came bag which requires a little bit more collaboration on a little bit more complexity and pre production and post production so it had more of the elements. I guess film would would end up having obviously that would be more complicated again and and then of course working with somebody else which is the joy of it you know as I said the second. Tv Show I wrote was with this Guy. Ray a good friend of mine and he's great fun to be around and we collaborated really well. I think we short up each other's weaknesses quite well and I have to say I'd say the exact same thing about Darren. We have a great relationship making the chip race putting it together. Creating the show in game as well when you're doing the interviews there's a performance aspect to it and. I think we do pretty good these days. We were very green at the start. I think were decent at it now and the and the show sounds like the way I would like to show sound has done for a couple of years. Maybe it didn't in the first years we're finding our feet but it does now and it has all the different segments so it has a nice variety aspect to it and yeah no very much. Podcast is the thing that gives me the most pleasure these days. It's it's a piece of content. I'm most proud of for sure. So going back quickly to this hand because you know having as King and missing the flop is of course like the first nightmare recurring nightmare. That amador's face when they start playing poker right. It's just like more regularly right. They know that this is unpaid hand that they can play very aggressively and they don't know what to do with it. So hence the The cliche what do you do with as king here so but in this particular spot that you wrote for the the movie. It's actually the hero who ends up leading after getting three beds. So did you run this hand in pile. And what did it say about? Heroes play? Who invented may not have been born when I wrote this Hutton. So I'm not quite sure if it's play approved in any way shape or form not know where the the influence for this was. Because I couldn't say it was a Honda ever played myself was actually Phil Hellmuth. I had one of those subscriptions about ten years ago or nine years ago where if you had a subscription to blow and got the magazine every month you also got access to the final tables the world series. They were one of the sponsors budget. It wasn't like the way the feature tables work today. It looked really really like a three camera setup and Kinda from to fire distance. And usually you couldn't see the flop that well or whatever it was and it was this cool hundred. It was on his way to his eleventh. Want to say bracelets and it was exactly like the hump later. Exactly like I just described in the in the story so I copied that helmet on and he did that Phil did that. He looked at this kind of more amateurish. Guy I think it was maybe eight laugh. Knowing left on the final table he dunk lead in with his. I think he had pocketed pair. Can't remember what I think he. I don't think we ever even saw fills Hanso. Maybe we don't even know. He claimed to have like five six seven eight one of those hands and he did say to the guy you know. I I know you have ace king so you go all in. I'm going to call. Maybe you get lucky and hit the Acer King Book. I know you've as King's I'm going to call now of course. In retrospect film may have been leveling the guy figuring that well. I've put him under so much pressure all in I'm going to believe he's kings and it was a really cool speech play at I. What's the cleanest of you need? You know if you're going to hand movie and maybe there's only going to be like five poker hunts and this entire film you need something to chew. See all the elements. Oh yeah that's great. And I'm glad I'm glad to know that it was modeled off filming his hand and the Guy did fold so we don't know for sure if you had as king but presumably some unparalled hand you how to Ace King Queen and I think Phil had like five through eighth one of those hands and did fill end up winning that of that. Yeah he did. It was his eleventh bracelets was he did take it down to four hours later. Yeah and what year was that again. I want to say like maybe interesting to look back over. Of course film. You is known for his speech. Play what about you? Is that type of play that you sometimes use in tournaments? Do you sometimes just talked your opponent to try to either get information or you know. Change the action. Because I know you quite well nine for better or worse I mean we've never played live together. Not only we have would be known as a bit of a speech player now. Anyone who knows me very well. All my inner circle will know exactly what? I have every my open my mouth and these Dave Dave doesn't have it I wonder if they can see through it but I think there. Are Those tricks that you have against? Let's call them random players or recreational players or just you know minefield players in big tournaments that you may never see again and I do feel like there is an opportunity there to you know maybe revealed a strengthened to too sophisticated player. But they're definitely not on that level. I think you always want to take that exploitive. You can give you an example of something with speech. What about like beginners speech? Play 'cause I'm going to tell you I would be considered a beginner and speech place sometimes online heads up like if my opponents chatting. I'll do some you know. Chat play heads up. I don't think I've ever really tried to use speech play in a tournament. Maybe if it's all in verse me on the River and even then I'm usually pretty sparing with it because I don't WanNa level myself so for somebody who basically almost never use it. What what do you feel like the the beginner? The beginner strategy. Okay one of my favorite ones and I used to do this on the tour was a UK and Ireland. Poker tour here. Maybe eight or nine years. I'm sure you must have played a few steps. So tell me what you think of this one. You know that classic situation where the guy goes all in puts on his coke and he's like okay go on. I'm just gambling here. We go or whatever and he does that whole kind of spiel where he's pretending essentially that he's not strong and everyone would read. That is very strong. That would be a classic like I really do have it. Because he's trying to do the over performance and over Hollywood so I used to do the over performance over Hollywood when I was bluffing. Because I thought the guy is probably choose the right level where he's going to see through an obvious Hollywood performance and therefore level of one more. Yeah okay that's a good one. I you know how I would interpret that. If somebody did that to me I would interpret it as like a a good hand but not like the nuts and not like not a pure laugh. I don't know that's that would come to me quickly. Persons comfortable enough that they know it's like correct to make the play but they're not so afraid to hide that they are kings or like nervous that it's like so low in the range you know that would have been my like if I have the nook locker. Let's say I've got the clubs and there's four clubs out three out there board but I don't have the floor that would be my moved to like if I'm gonNA check raise the guy. Is I do that one because that just looks insanely wrong to them. Then I think if they're SLOB. Okay in the river. I've got the nook blocker and then I check and bats. I shove and I do this. I think the guy doesn't measly goes. He has to have it because he's thought level where he thinks. I'm acting with the strongest time. So being able to pull the trigger on a bluff that that was a little trick I used to do quite and that worked out. Pretty well for you. We don't think I ever got caught dictator. But I didn't I use it sparingly. You feel like if you had to be one of the best players in the world like what would be more likely for you live or online at dimension world where either of those things the best online player that's unfathomable to me. I think I was probably in my early career when I was playing a lot. And I wasn't real growing for at least seven or eight years. I used to thirty forty table. No PROBLEM MID stakes sort of May be anything from a twenty to two hundred and I used to put him big volume and do big days back in the day. I do a lot less volume a lot. Fewer tables and a lot fewer days of the week playing these days so when I was a real hardcore Greiner was probably the best player that I was compared to the rest of the world and back then I think you would have called me an online player for sure. These days are again. I imagine it could ever be even in the top tier at all but maybe if it was it would be more likely to be live. I read I really. Don't to be honest. I used to play up thirty forty tables. That's that's a lot. I mean obviously poked through very different back then but certainly like difficult even just from a hand eye coordination point of view. Not something that everyone can do. Yeah it was basically spinning plates. It was Italian where the game was so soft that you would happily give up kind of more sophisticated edges of being able to make specific judgments about specific opponents and pay more attention because the overall balance just printed a good enough or ally that if you could just multiply that number it was better than finding little extra five percents of edge and individual games. Yeah that's that's always a really interesting thing about poker history that there were those times where people didn't really need to try to get better. Because there was so much great money they would just multiply their edge and do that for a while. And then you know eventually it would plateau and they'd have to get better but my brother of course was very Being on multi tabling and back in those days so I took it back to your podcast. the chip race. You've been nicknamed David Scissorhands for your tight. Editing style. The program is split up into different parts. And you really try to get the best from your gas. Cut Out everything. That's like not interesting that they say I really appreciate that about it because so many poker content comes from another direction. Which is that when poker players are listening to content. There often also playing poker. So you don't really need to be super tight but for my point of view. I like listening to podcasts. Wind like working out her taking walks at Sarah and getting my eyelashes fill so for me. I really liked the tight style but is that something that obviously goes back to your film background but you see any corollaries with that and poker as well. What's interesting? I suppose first of all the reason I do that sort of a gratitude for the Gas Sta. I sort of feel like what the rules are. The guess came on your show and they gave up their time. So not only. Should you prepped interview? Well and hopefully ask them good questions put. You should also cook them well so that same tighter than they maybe were because I think that's nice for them their friends then call him up and go you send a great on that show well on a navy. They sounded slightly better than they really were. And I think that's just a nice gesture to give your guest and I think that's a nice thing from a time-saving point of view as well. We have a five segments show and yet would go would one very long if we did net. I think that's important in terms of poker. You mean like. How'd you streamline your working situation like like spinning plates analogy or what do you mean well? It seems like there's a level of precision that is very important to kind of tattoo. Perfect in poker right and I wonder if those skills related in some way the precision required for like good editing and good writing and precision required for excellent poker apply. Well I think I would boil doc down to storytelling. I think you're right. I think there is something there. Which is that poker is essentially a sort of a logical discourse. It's a question and answer game. The the flop comes out and I bet. And that's asking you a question then you raise me and you've answered the question. Maybe put a question back on me I think when you understand poker in terms of that storytelling dynamic you realize that some storytelling skills can be very helpful. You know you end up with a fishy story. That's a story where there was a weird twist in the tale of your movie and no one believed that your character would do that so I think there are some definite overlaps there. Yeah you mentioned earlier that one of the hardest things about writing or movies and poker is that it's not very visual and we're where do you find that so many poker scenes go wrong and can you? Can you give me an example of one that you actually really loved? Can't remember the exact same but there is one in the Cincinnati kid that I remember thinking was grace. That's a really good question. I think if you focus on that you missed the point at some level. So poker scene shouldn't be focusing. It should just be a scene in the movie which moves your character story along which you know. Maybe a fork in the road and your character has to make a decision or something it always has to be like that and that's basically from a storytelling point of view. That's the grammar of the poker is basically just the setting you. It could just as easily have taken place in a supermarket or a restaurant or something that just happens to be in this location and maybe some poker elements are sprinkled in for me. That was the whole essence of of why? I didn't want to fall into that trap of just trying to write a coup poker hand. Wanted to be something that I knew could work dramatically because I didn't want to focus on the poker. The film or the story should be a human drama. She'll be a tragedy. It should be a comedy. It should be a development of characters through applause. The poker should be incidental at some level. And in which way is this particular scene pushing forward the narrative so the hero makes us play and then obviously wins the pot as his opponent. Doug fold with the ace king to his lead the fives on the Jack Nine six rainbow so after that is the character kind of shift in a certain way because of that you know that small victory. I don't know if they're shifted. I suppose the important thing to remember is that's an opening scene and most of the lead up to the scene is of clouded in mystery. We don't know who this guy is but we understand that he must be someone somewhat important and we don't know why so really. That scene is building to the moment that Sam character turns to the young. Flynn SAYS LOOK. Look look behind you. And he sees that he's the former champion and that's the important moment. That's the moment that we're building to in the scene. Which is the revelation of who are are characteristic. An opening scene really should establish your main character. That sort of the point of it is both sprinkled in is the fact that we find out that he's shadowed clearly. Life hasn't gone well from the way he looks. He has returned in some way. We get the sense of a clean of returning to maybe somewhere familiar. We get this sense of these poker player. We immediately see him be quite skillful poker. And certainly the the mind games or the leveling aspect too so we established that he's good. And then we get the kicker of. Oh he used to be the best are used to be the champion at least and that's the beginning of the story and then we sort of flashback to when he was that kid and we wouldn't or to ourselves well have does he get to the place he's in now and And that sort of important. That's a really good explanation. Because you know that's why a lot of movies and TV used voice over to kind of describe to you who the character is. Been in this case you have this hand and then the young fellow who lost the hand. It's natural for him to wonder who the villain is or the hero rather villain to him hero to the audience and so it's a natural way of showing it rather than just like you know having to. Bang it on people's heads with a voiceover which I hate voice over at all. I think it's sometimes quite nice but in this case it's a very elegant way to kind of get around. That voice over is necessary at times in movies on. It's been doing very well in many films. Of course it should be a last resort for me. It's the rule is showed on towel so it has to be. An action has to be a dramatic action. You don't want don't want exposition. Ideally you don't even want the guy to turn go. He used to be the best ever was looking at them. There on the Board. It has to be that visual moment of like point Photograph and photograph coming to life at this epic moments in this guy's passed so everything is shown. Nothing is telling like. Nobody hand delivers you. Any of the information you have to garner us from each little visual thing that you're given. I love that I mean you know. There's a lot of poker players who are passionate about rating content creation and there are so many great poker courses out there for people to kind of go from an advanced beginner to a very strong player from the writing perspective if we have listeners who are like. Oh I wanNA start start writing more create a poker scene in my on. What do you feel like the best like beginner? Resources to like just a little bit better at writing. Oh that's a great question actually mentioned this book on another show. Recently I was on chasing poker greatness with Brad and I mentioned phenomenal book by Ted Hughes called Shakespeare and the goddess of complete being really. It's just a sort of Bible type taxed at bow drama in Shakespeare's work and really. There's not many better than Shakespeare. Put it also sort of a reveals. The tricks of Shakespeare Shakespeare was actually sort of sneaky and repeating things and using things over and over again and using character types over again to create drama efficiently and be able to turn out so much work. There's a real good lesson in that book while it's a phenomenal book by Larry as you know phenomenal talented zone. Right Ted Hughes the subject matter if Shakespeare. It's a great way into that work in a great way to get your head around that kind of storytelling which I think is so important for me. I saw it from there being kind of an epic move. We seen that. These poker scenes were based on what we're talking today for me. The biggest structural thing in storytelling in trying to create cinema writes script was always having a mythological backdrop. I always wanted a story to have a mythological framework of a of an ancient story. Maybe that had already been told many many times over. And if you could follow the beats of that story then you knew you were in very safe ground telling your story because you couldn't get to a place where you're like. Oh what does my character do now because there is this template in place. I feel like that's probably the most important thing to do is kind of figuring out what your templates are and figuring out how you want to store retail. Even if people aren't aware of why you're inspired by there's this kind of invisible depth to it because you're standing on the shoulders of giants absolutely and essentially the audience should never know that. That's what you've doing like doing it properly. They never realized that. You base your entire story off the day Liz myth or something which in fact nothing left to see. Which is the name of this movie was doing. You know that that's what I did. I base it on the on the TVs and the mandatory day-lewis story from so if they realize that there's probably something wrong in that so they it has to be buried in. It has to be a Reuters to let's very well disguised in the actual text. Okay so you you said nothing left to see the name of the movie a great title and I gotTa Ask you. Have you ever tweeted at Brian? Koppelman to ask him to read your script reader growing up and asked him to come on my show and he won't come on so so that would be a start at least if we can get him on the show and do interview in. Which by the way Brian. I wrote this interview for you year ago. I probably have to update it now but a to work writing a really good interview. I'd love to have you on the show. And then maybe afterwards we can talk about scripts now. I probably joking because Brian has always so I mean I I absolutely love billions and I love a lot of the polka rating. But he's just so funny dealing with people who say that the latest rounders who have pets you and he would be interesting war stories of like you know. Tackling trolls have different philosophies. But I feel like he's like he's one of the best. Oh Yeah it was not in his league. Oh for those of you. Who aren't aware of Brian Compliment? He's the writer of rounders. I think most people know that the CO screenwriter rounders and also of billions but he also just very funny on twitter because people are constantly asking him read his scripts. And you know. Obviously if you're a well known personality writer on twitter you get asked that one hundred times a day. We'll know that we've mentioned Bryant hopelessly lenders although maybe it isn't although I underrated I squeeze that in. That's true. Yeah yeah very high rated. Don't think there's any good one you think it's strange because I think most poker players probably both most of the Po- content that's out there and find it. Kinda hard to relate to it because I guess TV poker movie poker isn't like real poker. And I guess Martin did a very good job going through every mention of poker in the media and in television and books and God knows what else in that amazing book row last year. But I don't know if I if I haven't underrated poker movie or or movie. That has a poker scene. Gosh Iowa we should probably should try and capone. I don't know what it would be. Sounds like you gotTa make your move you then okay. What about your most underrated poker hand? What is the most underrated poker hand? Yeah like a hand that people should be playing more or especially like in the live amador circuit where they don't get enough love for this hand thing. Probably the Hans like King Four students and Queen. Three suits in Middle East too late position of. It's very soft lineup. Particularly soft lineup. I think those Hans against opponents who don't tree bed off on just flat too much and don't porn issue is is definitely the Hans where you can find profitable ways to play more hands and they're the ones you can play profitably against certain kind of weak villains. Well you're wonderful. Co-host is already locked up. A king sued hand for for the Grade. So get answer there so pocket fives. You obviously wrote this hand for script but being that you've won millions of dollars online and played that must mean you've also played many millions of hands. I would take. I would imagine an over. You're like what is it. How many years career now in playing poker online like decade? You've probably had memorable actual hands with fives like when you think about. Five does like a positive or negative memory pop into your head usually positive. I guess because they tend to be your set miners when when you get the guy with a certain things put in way too much. I did have a bit like that. I think it was an EP. T Day One. Where got a guy to put an entire stack in with kings against my fives? When I you know probably getting over one hundred to one yeah. He was willing to put the whole stack in well. You had to be cajoled obviously had to speech. I think you're probably going to have good outcomes with those types of hands when you play them correctly. I think the big danger with those kind of hands set mine at the wrong price Q. Maybe get to handcuff to them on boards. That may be seen like. They're good boards but aren't actually that grace even if the board seems great they're not gonNA realize the equity by the river and against certain opponents. Who are going to put the pressure on you. Yes I feel like one mistake that I might see. People make with five or fours. Low pocket. Peres's set mine them in situations where if they're closing the action or close to closing the action. It might be okay but just like with every increasing player the chances of getting three bed and getting into dicey chances goes up and underrating that factor absolutely agree with you. I think is a hand that you know. Obviously there's another podcast for another website fully devoted to pocket pocket-size. It feels like a very important hand to click off the grid. I'm really glad that that you did it. David grew you. I took Puckett fives. I know I know I feel. I feel that about that. But Hey you know you had a hand that you actually wrote and then you also apparently ep t where you doubled up against kings with and you said that you had speech play in that have yet to go. He didn't like me to begin with. And that's certainly a situation that I'm here with my co-host arizon- he'll probably mention how unpopular can be in prickly in spiky. I can be re people at times so it is quite a weapon when you can get on the wrong side of somebody and then you do make a hand you can really get them to put a lot of chips in emotionally. I've been dying to have you on the grade. You Darah you guys do great things for Media Poker and also just always keeping US entertain on twitter at a decay lapin right and then what other Social media accounts? Because obviously you're everywhere but where do you suggest people find the race? We have basically a facebook page and a twitter account. That's where it all goes. We also have a youtube page where we're experimenting at the moment with another show called the lock in where we do a sort of a half hour more off the cuff video web chats. I guess it's sort of for the times we live in right now. Dr. Annoy just shoot the breeze of poker and tell a few stories so if people are interested in more visual content youtube supplies to go to find put. Yeah the PODCAST is on all the usual stuff. 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How to find the perfect campsite this weekend in 7 minutes or less!

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How to find the perfect campsite this weekend in 7 minutes or less!

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Well it's actually done in seven minutes and it's all live in our interview and you'll see that coming up in just a little bit but that was really fun so how to find a campsite this weekend. Populous nation in seven minutes or less. That's a pretty click titled in. It's not real quick because it's true Also this week we have a new sweepstakes we announced on our ask us anything program the other night but here it is it's from a company called ho- kenna and it's a great little great orange carrying case holds your lights please. Are you find yourself in a situation where you're stranded and you need to let people know you're there. These are emergency. Led lights they will flash like like that you know if those watching youtube see it it kind of going around a little circle you can make an s. o. S. there's an s. s and you can also make it a steady light like a flashlight. They can be seen a a mile away and they also give you a couple of other things as well. it's a. It's a really handy kit for emergencies. Should you find yourself on the side of the road magnet on the back in case you need to put it on your vehicle. I like the fact that it can be just a regular flashlight as well. Yeah so it's pretty cool and we can you. We're going to get three of them. And we're gonna give you give five of these kits away to people who enter the sweepstake and you can see that right there on. The screen below dischord rv lifestyle dot com slash sweepstakes. And you'll be able to deploy great in. I wonder if they can hear bowl chewing not barking. He's always doing something he's doing. His bone back panting and now he's two hundred small. That's better than barking right. It's better than us right. That's a lot better than the docking sewer head so we want to start with a very nice message from brad olsen. Brad leftist this video message and we'll share it with you now mike and jen. I'm brad olsen for minnesota. And i have a comment electra. Share with so many people waiting for rv's we wanted to share what we've been doing to pass the time. In may of twenty twenty. We started looking for rb and by august. We had ordered a leisure travel ban. Wonder rear lounge so for the past fourteen months. We've been watching hours and hours of youtube videos. Join the facebook group. Read a lot of your blogs and have also been listening to your podcasts. While exercising at the gym in fact i've listened to the past three years while working out. Well doing all of these activities. We've been compiling a list of notes which who've been putting it into a three ring binder which will be used as a reference when our rig finally arrives my advice to others while you're waiting is to educate yourself on the rv lifestyle and during your weight so you're ready to hit the road when you're rig finally arrives your dedication and sharing of your knowledge has been a godsend to myself my wife and too many many others. I'm sure thank you for your dedication and for sharing and we really appreciate it hoping to see you at a campground someday and hoping you have many wonderful adventures on the road. Happy trails and god. Bless god. bless you brad. As well tying message yeah and some good advice for for a lot of people who are very impatient. And i closed sam. Bean impatient waiting for your rv to be built. And we're delighted that you found us brad and know that your weight will not be in vain. You will be delighted when you get it and and you're going to be sold. You are so prepared. You are ready to go. So he's got what did he say. Three wing ring binder filled up with our advice. That's that's pretty good. How many have you traveled with cats. We know a lot of you travel with dogs. But let's not forget all those fears who bring their cats along with them and someone on the rv lifestyle. Facebook group lisa. She was sharing some pretty amazing photos of one such. Rv'er they came across the campground. Recently it was a very elaborate. Cat cage built onto the main slider window of their class. A motorhome the cat or cats they could go in and out of their will and they had at least four levels that they could explore along with a climbing structures as well as the roof to keep the rain off. Them is incredible. I would like to see how it all. Together when they put out the slide. And how do they assemble that thing. Because it's gotta be six or seven feet. Tall is huge at about that same length and about a foot and a half two feet wide house they put it together and i'd like to see how it all comes apart and where they store it all and i mean they've got a real conversation maker the fat cats to make that a four storey cat cage. I'd like to see that cat. That's got to be one happy cat. One cool happy cat also on facebook. This week we got a great video that was made in nineteen seventy four and it. It shows a small little lightweight. Travel trailer is kind of like a fifth wheel though you know that little part and the fifth wheel comes out in front and mounts you ready for this on the roof of a volkswagen beetle. Vw bill rate in the center of the roof. And we're gonna play this for you. I think those of you listening to us. Just listening on your app will be able to pretty much pull together. What what the stories about. But if not you can go back. And on the rv lifestyle channel on youtube you can actually see this video from nineteen seventy four Listen up you'll also hear the audio trailer. A compact owner can now join the camper crowded highways on a weekend trek to some not too distant shangrila the trailer hitches to reinforce point about midway on the roof of the car this makes the coupling more secure nuts eliminating sway floating and jack-knifing. The trailer itself is very light in this kitchen. Family distributes the weight evenly over all four wheels of the car. The unit contains a full bath kitchen. Sink range closet space and according to the manufacturer enough sleeping room for four adults or two adults and three children however we suggest that the occupants be friendly of course after spending several hours in route in this car the good friends or bitter enemies. We've heard of maneuverability but three hundred sixty degrees. If dad performs a few of these gyrations while a family is having breakfast there could be trailer load of trouble. What's amazing to me is that was that was done in one thousand nine hundred seventy four that little rounded volkswagen beetle and the mount goes on the roof and the beetle can kind of like turn around three hundred sixty degrees and that in because the like a fifth wheel hitch on the center of the roof of the of the of the you know the the beatles as it goes around the trailer kind of backs up and anyway pretty amazing. I don't think that ever took off that idea. I don't think it did either. I think with that little of a car. You couldn't hold that many people who supply there was no room in the vehicle whatsoever anyway. thanks For those who set us that it was actually. I got a couple of people who sent me pretty fun to see that it was and we got one more post from our facebook group to share. This one was shared by jerry more. It was entitled what could go wrong and depicted a flooded campground and a camper standing in about a foot of water and he was going to the electric patta stole and you would pulling out his electric cord and going to plug it in so watering electricity. I don't think so. I don't know where that was taken. But there's gotta be a foot of water that he's standing in he's got. Plastic is like a rain coat or he took a bunch of stuff. Because it looks like it's raining out as he took that picture but it's a reminder you don't mess around electricity look like a good idea. No i don't think so. Even though he did try to make boots out of plastic. I'd be afraid water would still get in there and you're young you're adventuresome all right. That's what we've been up to this week and that's some of the material that you guys sent us. We'll take a quick break and when we come back we'll have the rv news of the week so stay with us. All our ears need specialized emergency transportation coverage to cover air and ground ambulances. We turn to home services and vehicle return and you only have sixty eight percent chance that those services will be completely covered by your major medical. The sad reality is that a lotta people believe they have that coverage but it turns out most carriers that claim to cover air ambulances only cover you for a hospital to hospital transfer and offer no coverage to get you to the initial hospital in the first place. The truth is sixty eight percent of air. Ambulances are hospital to hospital. 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August ninth to nonessential travel and that would include our ears now. The border has been closed since march of twenty twenty. But so august ninth. You can go visit canada. You can take your rv there but you do have some protocols that you have to follow her. They won't let you in right. You need to have your passport that you have been vaccinated within two weeks having gone by prove that the vaccine of that time to work and you also don't you have to have a current yes. You don't have called it right now. You have to be asymmetric meeting. You don't have any overt symptoms and you have to have a current test. That shows the negative that you don't have it now. You mentioned a vaccination passport that set poof vaccination also and this is just always when you also have to have a passport driver's license anymore that get you into canada. You have to have a passport. Would jen and i have is. We have passport cards. You can get little passport. id cards. It'll fit in your wallet so you don't have to take your passport with you but you can donate canada with those requirements proof of vaccination and you have to have had your last vaccine your last dose at least fourteen days prior to you trying to enter canada and again No symptoms and you have to have negative tests so a lot of hoops. You have to draw to our that negative test. What's that like a week. Heard you know test. Well i don't know it doesn't say when usually you know maybe he had a negative test two months ago so i think it's gotta be surprised. They don't have little instant tests across. Yeah so anyway. Good luck with that. But it's nice to think that the border is going to open now that's for. Us travelers only people from other nations. I don't think they're allowed in quite yet. But that's coming as well but some progress on that border being opened. We got a really nice note from our friends. Deb and jeff spencer about campground being closed because of the mess that people make the dispersed camping areas. And this is a good news story out of that because a group of concerned people who love to disperse capping our ears. They have banded together. They started kind of a funding movement to save a disperse campground. In the bridger teton national forest. It was a very popular cap gown and it had been used a whole lot last year. A whole lot this year Human waste was really starting to accumulate and as the forest service has been doing around the country. It looked like they were going to shut that down. Because they don't have the manpower to go in and clean up all that human waste in that junk so this group got together and they started a fundraising a lot of individual donations and they raised a lot of money as sixty thousand dollars from private donations as well as as well as to corporations shoutout to domestic and a shoutout also to compendium companions. Kind of like up campground review citing information on camping and dometic of course makes all the rv accessories and it was so much fun. Because they're opening ceremonies they had ribbon-cutting toilet paper. What they did. We didn't tell them what they did with this. They they built a to vault toilets in this area where all the human waste was. So now there's there are toilets there and that's pretty good and then tell about the opening ceremony opening ceremony they use toilet paper for the ribbons for the cutting ribbons of cutting toilet paper. So that's fun. You know what. I found really interesting out of that story is i didn't realize it costs that much but in none under they build that but they also had to pledge enough maintenance money to make maintain these toilets and it's expensive thousand a toilet a year so ten thousand dollars every year for these two toilets to clean them to maintain them. But congratulations solve. So that's the kind of story we love to report. A group of concerned are veres a couple of great corporate. Rv industry citizens helping out with that sixty grand abilities vault toilets. And then pledging ten grand a year to clean the two of them thank you guys. Thanks to our friends. dab and hand Jeff spencer for sending that story so nice to get a good news story. There was a very sad story that we want to report happened. This past weekend in michigan in leno way county michigan actually brooklyn township was a music festival. There and three young guys in their twenties in their twenties were in a travel trailer and they were a campground about four or five miles from where this big festival was held. And they went to bed late friday They were found unresponsive and pronounced dead in their travel trailer on saturday and the cause of death was a common one that we hear several times a year and generator a generator. That was right next to their to their camper. And the fumes from that generator built up carbon monoxide inside. The trailer and these three young men lost their lives. It's uninvestigated police. Haven't done a final release of what the cause was. But that's certainly what they were exp- they were suspecting and for all of us it's a reminder of how deadly carbon monoxide is. So you wanna make sure. You're the main sources generator The and also propane propane. Fires and pain stoves. You wanna make sure all of your equipment works properly and the best way to do this. Have it inspected at least once every season. And for all of you who love amusement parks you are going to be so excited about. What has opened up in the cincinnati area at kings island kings great amusement park one of the best in the country and they just opened a twenty seven million dollar campground. It's huge. it's fifty three acres in size costs about one hundred bucks a night to stay there and a little bit more with all the fees. It's just outside the amusement park. They got shuttles going back and forth but this is a luxury park pools for just adults and then pulls for for kids with kids. And i'm sure all kinds of fitness centers. They've got a great restaurant there They have walking trails and dining options super clean. Roomy bath houses. Laundry fire pits grills picnic tables. You should expect that a campground and supposedly really good wifi. I am a big fan of fort wilderness. And i've been watching the stories as as this camp cedar as it's called was being built. They had some delays because of weather earlier this year. I think we ought to go down and visit that place. I would love to and maybe i can get you on a rollercoaster. The somebody will meet me. Go out let me on with them. But anyway cam see twenty seven million dollars. Fifty three acres. This is great. We're seeing all across country. A lot of rv parks being built. And there's a lot of money are being everybody's caught onto how popular it is so there's are regularly going to be stories that will be reporting now going forward about big rv campgrounds opening and What i like about some of these resorts is they're not those crowded space spots with people. Ten fifteen feet and if you open your slide your five feet away. These are really nice. Roomy spots camco on their expensive people don't like expenses. You could still boondock but this is so much nicer than a hotel. What is and you're in docking. you're in your own. Rv you have your own sweet bathroom. It's your bed. it's your journalists. Are right there and you not bothering your friends or neighbors. They clean their. You know they don't have to clean the bed to make the sheets for ya. And if you're in your stay at a place like election amusement park you don't have to be in a hotel where who knows stayed there before you and how clean it is and anyway. We're we're optimistic. 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Rv lifestyle empire covers dot com slash. Rv lifestyle empire covers dot com. Protect what you love. Welcome back and now. It's time for your rv questions of the week. I remember you can post those questions to us. We can also even ask them on your smartphone to this a selfie. Send them to us. At mike and jen at rv. Lifestyle dot com. The first one comes from david. Gregory and david says we just purchased a twenty twenty wonder rare twin bed only had two thousand five hundred miles on it and loving it and planning trips as we're getting used to everything one question. I have can't find an answer yet. In any the any of the manuals materials is. Can you shut off the ac from the main panel it. So yes yes a little ipad tablet. You have monitor that your control center. And there's a little thermometer menu on the left of it. Click the thermometer menu. And then you'll see your air conditioner either. Set for on or auto if either one of those are highlighted. It's on or it's on automatic. Which should go according to temperature. So you don't want those highlighted and that will keep it off so we learned that ourselves is to turn off auto turn off on the air conditioners off so congratulations. That's great by. I mean you getting twenty twenty twenty five hundred miles on it. that's that's barely used rig. We got one here that i just got to share this. This came from judy jones. Can you see the question is would like to see some articles on pop camping and they have nine dogs in their pop up camper. We can't with nine dogs in a pop-up honestly they must be small dog. Jody i would rather see an article on how you camp with nine dogs in pop up camper we had a pop-up camper Many years ago and we camped with three kids and a dog the size of our bowl. Sixty five pound elkhound and It had a porta potty. Which forever is the reason why. I don't like cassette toilets. Because i hated empty and those things so getting back to the nine dogs. I would think a lot of places wouldn't let you in with nine dogs. I know a lot of places wouldn't let you in campgrounds. Just don't want people with nine dogs and you know. I mean they make more noise unless you have dogs that don't bark at all. That's nine dogs that you have to clean up with. I would be amazed if any campground you call would allow you to camp with. This is a tongue in cheek. Question i don't know maybe it is. So here's the thing if it's if it's tongue in cheek you got me what if it's not you got to send me a picture of you campaign with nine dogs. I don't know her. Email is three pug babies so they must have pug dogs. I guess so. I don't think she's. I don't think she's Prank hemisphere question. The hey one other place that we answer a lot of questions is every sunday night. We do a one hour livestream on the rv lifestyle channel on youtube in which we take in real. Time your questions that you can post online. We'd stream on youtube and on facebook and here's one that came from one of our recent ask. Anything shows tina la- plaka than life is my dream to upon retirement. But i am solo now and i have no girlfriends to travel with their are ought solo female travelers. But i think it's safer with a companion. What do you think well. We made a lot of so low women travelers and you did our whole video interview with a whole bunch of what. What did you find out from that. And they were all comfortable traveling by themselves. That's kind of commonsense. Use your instincts. If it doesn't feel right at a campsite leave but they they were just fine and you also could be in your own by yourself and join a group and travel with the group because sometimes it's fun to be with a group. You don't have to do everything they do. But if you want company there and if you don't you can be by yourself you'll quickly make friends and they'll say hey. I'm going up to big bear this weekend. spots open. You want to go and you'll go and you'll you'll soon find that there's a whole community out there on the road but a large percentage is surprisingly large percentage of all the our viewers that we meet in normal years. This is not normal year so busy but in normal years. A large percentage are female solo travelers. What is what is the percentage in the class. Bs i think in the class b. It was at least fifteen percent. That might have been. But i think one manufacturer told us it was. He thinks he thought fifteen percent. And that was world tracks road trucks so beca. Several years ago that they thought fifteen percent of their p- buyers were solo female. So tina i. I wouldn't worry much about it. I think you'll find. It's it's great in there's help everywhere so so you wouldn't go off boone docking in the middle of nowhere. That's something do a lot of do a lot of men do now. Yeah but i wouldn't do that until you're comfortable with new no the into of rv england But always you said right at the top you know trust you got to sounds like there's no bell. Our dog is ball. he barks dog. Vote dog get a dog. Tina dogs will bark. And that's always good security. Dodge didn't bark. He did not know. Don't forget you can catch. Ask us anything every sunday night at seven. Pm seven pm eastern time on youtube and on facebook. And don't forget to send us your questions or comments. Use a selfie or just email us mike and jen at rv lifestyle dot com. If you've visited an rv park lately surely besides all the are vs. You've seen these e bikes jennifer and i are proud e bike owners and the e bike that we chose a rad power bikes america's number-one e bike brand offering direct to consumer pricing and powerful premium. Electic bikes jenin. I love our rad power bikes. We use them to go around the camp ground to explore the area we're in. I have the city bike. 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I challenged mark to test out this technology in real time searching for a campground near a very popular destination that had opened sites that we could instantly book for this weekend. You will not want to miss this interview. Let's quit talking about it. And seeing here far cells now we should note for those of you listening to the audio version of the podcast. While you get a good idea how this works by just listening to mark you may want to check out the video version of this podcast over on our youtube. Rv lifestyle channel. So you can see what mark is describing. Okay now. let's get to this week's interview the great finding and open campsite challenge. Here's the interview. Well on the other end of our video connection is mark. Kept himself hullo mark. How are you doing good how you doing. I'm doing really good. I have been following this as As you know and many of our listeners know as you've developed this technology and it is now ready for prime time. I'm i'm i going to put you to challenge in a minute but maybe you can tell a little bit about this this cutting edge technology that you've fell up that really does change the way we can find campsites. It's camp gown views that calm but Give us you know a ten thousand foot overview and then bring it home. How how do we use so in two thousand nine. My wife and i sold everything we own. We bought a fifth wheel and start traveling. The country had no idea that i was to do anything related to the campground industry but we came across almost immediately the big problem. Everybody has which is finding a campsite. Where are you going to stay at. And is that campsite gonna be right for you and so we built. Campground used to be a visual tool photos videos. Allow people actually with parts. Look you make a decision and three sixty video. Technology came out a few years ago. We started doing those and people liked it. They said this is really good. I like b. cycles review. I can look around you know. It's it's a nice tool. But i wish i knew what side i was looking at and i wish i knew if that site was available so that was technology we built. It takes the google street view. Right the three sixty tour. It combines an augmented experience. So when you're looking at a site you'll know if that's available because we'll be retrograde and the actually click on that second bucket and so bringing this technology to bear to making it easy for us to go in virtually tura campground. It hasn't been an easy task but it's very obvious one right. I mean every every camp like yeah. That's that's obvious i. Some people haven't thought about that and so one of the solutions. It's a lot more difficult in reality but through the support of the campus rash maintenance thing happen a lot of people are saying christiane have any technical skills and as i've looked at this one of the things that strikes me and and i would assume we'll see this when we actually asked you. Do this challenge that we're going to give you But up in the upper right there is like a little map that shows where you are as are navigating the camera so you actually see the image of what you'd see if you were if you were right there and then you see on the map where you are so you can kind of follow that map and go around the camp. That is amazing. I mean that is so simple to seize. See the little green dots where open red with a close eye oppressed but the purpose of our bring you add for our topic of the week is to actually do a demo. Now the dumb. I have is that For those who are in our audio audience. They can't see what you're about to show us. But they can hear and i hopefully hopefully when they get to a computer. Then they'll go to our youtube barbie lifestyle channel and they can look up that part of it because this is going to be i think pretty interesting But but mark with a run this whether you find it or not. So are you pretty confident. You can find us something in under ten minutes net depending on where it is mike. I know you're gonna hit me with some heartlands and we'll see. I'm actually pretty common. Yeah i'm gonna hit with a hiring jennifer. And i have a favorite spot we'd love and in these times of lots of pressure. It's hard to book. it's a tough one. So the mike jennifer challenge for. You is glacier national park. Find a campground in which we can get to glacier You know in a reasonable short drive and enjoy glacier and still be someplace this weekend glacier national park area this weekend go okay. That's a good challenge. mike jen. Let's go find a campsite for this weekend near glacier national parks. The first thing i'm gonna do is i'm going to go to cathy. Dot com and enter glacier national park. Going to the sun. Road is good enough. And i'm going to click search on that the default results that will see our from within a fifty mile radius of the national park in there are seventy campgrounds and rv parks within that fifty mile radius museum on this map here. There's a lot of locations that you can say. That's a good thing that means we might be able to find a campsite on average. Each camp ground has sixty sites. You're looking at it at least four thousand in two hundred campsites. We're gonna find something all right. So i think we'll do. We'll look at the national park and the first one that comes up actually rising sun is within the national parks and matt. We have a virtual tour of that We also have some photographs. These are older virtual tours. But it's better than nothing and there's information on this site but we want to see if we can actually book a site right now for this campsite and so we're gonna ask roll down in the national park service website. Find out right now. Were only able to book sites within fish creek in many glacier a lot of the other campgrounds including including this one rising son are closed during the summer. So basically what we're getting is that it'll be a headache and we actually can't book anything with the national park so that one is out. Is that when we can't do this. Challenge you could wing it though and maybe find a first-come-first-serve and a few of those campsites at the gate be have a sign that tells you if sites are available and they also have an information option where you get current camp status. It was off that page. I was just on. So that gives you ideas. It's worth i come for serve. The next thing. We'll look at is actually full hookup campground. So i just flagged electric gimme Campgrounds that have at least electric in them in a notice that they follow the outside of the parks. We've got the west side or the east side of glacier national park and in the west side nash part e site is more remote it scenic. It's backed up to the indian reservation and it's a very pretty area but we're gonna have better luck on the west sykes more traffic so i'm gonna focus in a little bit on the west side of glacier national park and what i'm gonna do to zoom in a little bit and then i'm going to scroll through my results and see what we've got. We've got a koa. I'm gonna add. That's my list to call and north american. I'm going to add that to my list mountain meadow. I'm gonna add that you so what i'm gonna do is. I'm actually going to grab the phone and call these campgrounds. Rv parks why calling the reason being is. We're doing this at the last minute. Their reservation engines may work and may help you. But like north american i know for example does not have not meadow yet. North american rate here doesn't have an online reservation. They ask you to either fill out a form or call and so. I'm going to call because last minute. I'm probably going to snag a cancellation one of these parts. Imagine that worker. They just got a call from somebody canceling last minute in a new call. They have to get a site. They're going to fill it right away at rather than go down awaiting this or anything else. It's nice little trip so that's a way to grab one now but it still doesn't solve or address the question which is find us in book aside right now so what i'm gonna do is. I'm going to cheat a little bit. I'm gonna utilize our new technology. Which are these virtual tours. What they do is filter us down and show us recreation daca properties that we integrated with i and there are a few campgrounds. One is bigotry. This is a forest service campground. What i not just going into it is that this one is literally always book year round almost one year round that in the winter but not open but in the summertime. It's booked pretty much all the time. So if i set our date parameters right over here on the calendar to this weekend firm and see what we got up here. There is nothing available. This is a i. There are first-come-first-served campsites in here. So you could wing it and this could be one of the campgrounds that you stop. It seemed to get site available but again it doesn't solve our problem the next year. I'm going to look at is something called or a place. Called hungry horse rebel reservoir syon did the virtual tourist Make a point here. You see these green icons along hungry. Horse reservoir. Hungry horse has a number of campgrounds along the banks of the resin. Four and the reservoir itself is very scenic. Very pretty. it's damned. There's an awesome damn that go across very large and then there's campgrounds along the shores of this lake very beautifully and there are a lot of campgrounds but to make a bookie and i'm gonna go ahead and filter down to the ones that we have within the recreation dot gov system and just pick this loss johnny point campground and see what we've got so as we load this up. I am gonna change my dates over here on the calendar to win. I am my screen recorder buttons right there. So i'm gonna hit confirm and see what we have. We actually have a site available so nominee head through this campground. What we see is paved roads. Pave sites of wooded setting scenic. What is setting to really nice. Forest here We saw those photos of the lakes. So we're close to very pretty lake. it is located in more remote areas as quiet night very pretty spot. It's got pit toilets right here. So you got pit toilets. There's actually those example of a campsite right here where there's a tent set up in the trees so your parking pad is right here in that. There's a tent right up there so pretty spot. The virtual tour allows us to move the screen and look around. Actually see the sights much like google street view. It's video and so you're actually on our videographer. Who you see him right. There are videographers riding through on a bike with the camera. Setup on it. It's a several vantage is to that which in this case is one of disadvantages that this videographer. He went pretty fast. So if you want to take a closer look you can hit pause. Look over at the site. Get more details. You get even jump ahead a little bit beheading. Play as you're looking at the site and see if that's the right fit for you then hit playing. Continue on and as we near this campsite. I'm seeing that. This is a very pretty campground. Not a bad spot. I may have found our winter as we come up on the campsite that is green looking up here on the top right. It should be right here there. It is there's are available site for this weekend. Wanna go ahead and pause and take a look at that site. That's plenty big fit at least thirty five foot trailer in there or thirty five foot. Rv and have a spot to parker vehicle right here. He you have used of the lake. The spot itself site number twelve which i confirm campsite twelve is able to be booked right now so we have now just booked it campsite this weekend near glacier national park not bad Mark that not only neat that that truly is cutting edge. I don't know of any other Planning his trip software or a web service. That is that Responsive that accurate that that's pretty cool And you think we could do that pretty much any place in the country so despite all this stuff we here and we've been reporting about about everything being so busy. There's still plenty of good campgrounds out. There there are plenty of its. There's two parts to it right. There is finding out where you're going to go and then finding campgrounds you're gonna stay at and in the end. That's what built this tool because it and how you saw we actually went into that camp ground and we're able to find that site and what you're looking at right now is literally beta version. This version wind where we're going with this technology and for video production. What we're doing so there's two pieces we have to actually go and send videographer. Capture the footage. Then we have to get into the system right so there's those two pieces right now. We have a team that is just finishing the entire state of washington. Last week they finished the entire state of oregon and we are bringing these online every day. So the goal is to get everything on it to where this tool allows you to book because the one thing that's holding everybody back from camping and going camping this week in the last minute. Is that information on where you go and uncertainty is. What as not worth. It was to stay home right. You know. it's that uncertainty prevents people from actually going out and traveling adventure and we're trying to help reduce that uncertainty. I wanted to take that spot found. That was an awesome spot and it who would think is right on the waterfront. I mean it's right out your door in that's awesome mark. campground views. that com is. The website will put a lincoln Description and then the show notes and all that stuff but there is a obviously. This is a service and as i read. It's like fifty bucks a year which is pretty pretty reasonable to start off with for that plan. Yeah the the year right now fifty bucks. We have a lifetime going right now. Which is to fifty. Basically we are funded by campers. We know investors no outside. Corporate donors were completely aligned with the campers and so the members join 'em then you guess what when you join you can email me. Tell me hey mark. This doesn't work. i want this. I want that we listen to you all right while we will send him. Campground views dot com. We've found. I didn't give you the time. I don't know if you pay attention you did. That is seven minutes seven minutes and you spent the first couple minutes. You know showing us that. Yeah you can check commercial campgrounds and that was pretty easy. You don't see it can find that if you need full hookups but the actual search you you were there. You nail it seven minutes. that's technology. I think anybody can use mark cap. Campground views that calm and mark. You'll be back next week with one of those hidden campground gems. That you've been reporting on right mccaffrey. On may qualify as one of them to. Maybe we would have done this week to it did that. That counts for this week but we need a new one next week. Hey mark keppel always great to see my friend and we'll check with your next week. See that that was a really cool piece of technology. I couldn't believe that mark found those open campsites so close to glacier and that we actually were able to see the campsites even the scenery and the leg around it and then actually book it all in just seven minutes. It's kind of like google street view's except for campgrounds. That's a that's a really good analogy. I like the model for marks website. It's see where you're going and that's exactly what it does takes. Rv tra- planning to a whole new level again. His website is campground views. That calm the membership fees fifty bucks a year but are followers if you use the promo code. Rv lifestyle will get a discount. Nice discount again. Campground views dot com code. Rv lifestyle when we come back patio. And tom birket will be joining us with another great off the beaten path destination. Stay with us. Have you had with overbooked. 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Tom and patty birket and another off the beaten path adventure. Hey jennifer and mike. Cambridge is the county seat of dorchester county on the chop tank river and has a lovely waterfront trail in striking buildings not to mention the house. Where any oakley in. Her husband shot ducks on the river from their bedroom. Balcony drive fifteen miles east along. Us and you'll get to vienna population to fifty. Vienna is not without its own charm. It was in the seventeen hundreds shipbuilding town and a center of tobacco farming hansel. A large brick farmhouse nearby was a center of trade with the native peoples of the region in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. It's also close to layton's chance winery. A delightful harvest host location. Where we spent a night. We happened upon vienna partly. Because it's a long. Us fifty one of our goto cross country roads. But mostly because it's the closest grocery store to elliott is and we were exploring the variety of islands along maryland's eastern shore from deal island with its historic skipjack fleet to the hooper islands with their desolate seaside cemetery and outstanding crab. But maybe the most interesting island visit. We had was to the island with the least to see elliot. Island is remote if you wanna go out for dinner or get a haircut. It's a thirty minute. Drive to vienna or an hour to cambridge leaving vienna on elliott island road. We passed along apart of the blackwater national wildlife refuge. What's that patty asked. Because we rounded a bend. I stopped in the road to pull out the binoculars. Stopping the road wasn't an issue over the ninety minutes we spent on elliott island road. We saw three other vehicles what petty had seen was a bald eagle sitting on a rock out across the marsh grass. Our eyes begin to attune themselves to the terrain. There's another one. I pointed and tom saw pair on the opposite side of the road. As we slowly crept. Down the blacktop. Reluctant to put down the glasses. We saw two dozen or more of the magnificent birds. Some were sitting in snaggy trees others directly on the ground. A few were flying low over the grass looking for what we couldn't say. Eventually we passed out of the marshy area and the numbers dwindled rapidly on. We drove to the island which was nearly desolate with a few tumble down buildings in a few still hanging on homes a once. Bustling fishing community now mostly abandoned on our return trip. We saw not a single eagle and we were reminded visit. We made to saint. Mark's wildlife refuge in florida in the florida armpit. We drove into it on a rainy morning and saw countless birds in the roadside marshes and grasses even a couple for the life list the next day about the same time. Hardly a bird incite. You might call it luck. You might call it patients what we've discovered. Is that if you take your time and wait for a place to offer itself up to you. You can have some pretty find surprises out here off the beaten path. You can read tom. Petty burqa there on our lifestyle travel blog. We have lots of stories and we put new ones up all the time so getting a habit of checking that out. As well we love the burkitt's they have this knack of finding great spots everywhere. Can you believe it that wraps up. Another episode of the rv podcast. And let's use this opportunity to tell you all to send us your comments your questions. We love getting those strange photos and videos that you find on facebook and social media. We would love it if you would favor use your smartphone. Take a video of you is putting selfie moods why jennifer. I'm mike can ask us your questions or make your comments and you can email those to us just like you post a selfie on on social media except email them to us at mike and jen at rv. Lifestyle dot com. 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The Flashs JOHN WESLEY SHIPP: Dark Periods and Gratitude

Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum

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The Flashs JOHN WESLEY SHIPP: Dark Periods and Gratitude

"You're listening to inside of you with michael rosenbaum. How is everyone today. Ryan how are you. I am a okay. How are you hi. I'm doing alright man. i'm I've been exercising more and i've noticed my anxiety has gone down a little bit funny. How that happens isn't it isn't it. We just talk and preach and bullshit and then once you actually do it you say oh well i notice a little. Even if it's a small difference it's a freaking difference man. Oh yeah you see these things at the bottom my legs. If i move those around a lot of the things you can put a feat feats yeah if you sort of move those up and down yup and around and outside your heartbeat starts to go up crazy. It's amazing guys. I hope you're taking care of yourselves. I hope you're Thanks for listening whether you're in your car or your at home or whatever. Thanks for tuning in John wesley shipp coming up. Great guest you know him from the flash in from dawson's creek. He talks about his relationship with mark hamill. He talks about I mean just anxiety life. He was very Open and i love when the guests are open you guys always write me and say god they were so open and love how you're able to open guests up. I just want to or not and he seemed to open up quite a bit and It was effective. It helped me. If you're liking the podcast. I urge you to uh spread. The word helped the podcast out. follow us on instagram twitter and facebook instagram. Facebook is at inside you podcast and at inside of you pod on the twitter and it's right here you could see it see that and What else You watch on youtube but subscribe right a review. It helps show out and spread the word Really my patrons are the saviors of this podcast so if you wanna join patriot and help the podcast and other ways. Keep it rockin patriot dot com slash inside. I'll send you a message right after inside of you inside of you patriot dot com slash inside of you. That's right is that right patriots like a family of see it. It's there's like a lot of perks in tears and Things you can do to help the podcast and other ways patriot dot com slash inside of you And if you want an emerge band merch is at sun. Spin dot com. You can also zoom me On cameo and also if you wanna be march from the inside you store like lex. Luther steps smallpox smallville lunchboxes inside you store online inside of you online store you can go there Anything else ryan go on your life Well i got back from european san diego. Did you get drunk. Fun was a lot of fun and you didn't pass out or anything pass out. No they're the group was It was it was like a an array of this guy's friends from like high school all the way to like professional so it was like it ran the gamut of of dude right so fun. I'm glad you had a good time. That's because last time you had a seizure. I had a seizure on a beach. And i ruined a bachelor party this time. I was not the one who ruined the bachelor party. That was somebody else while. I'm glad you're healthy. Glad the actually. It wasn't ruined it was. We had a good time. But right except you. I had a miserable time. You felt like you everything. That's i'm glad you had a good time this weekend. Good to get away isn't it. It was so weird to be around people allen and but yeah we were all saxton. We kept it within the group like we had a house and a brewery tour on a bus. Chand sounds like thunder on a boat to really. Yeah i needed. Take dramamine when i get on a boat just so i don't get little motion sickness all right Right just cruise around the san diego bay for three hours sounds delightful was san diego's beautiful. Yeah all right well. I'm glad fun man. Hey everybody thanks for coming. The lexington comecon. I had a blast. Tom william. i had a blast. Who did smallville nights. It was hilarious and fun. If you ever get a chance to smallville nights. I'm doing one in west virginia on september twenty fourth. Be there Rock in the mountaineer comecon and get your tickets can be a lot of people. They're doing a one man. Show for smallville nights. It's going to be a lot of fun lot of frigging laughs. Let's get into this John wesley shipp This is a really fun interview. I hope you enjoy it. I know i did. Let's get inside of john wesley shipp. It's my pawn listening to you inside of you with michael rose Inside of you with. Michael rosenbaum was not recorded from the studio. Hey good luck in. How aria a you guess. Where are you in new york. You're in new york. You live in new york live in new york hold on. I've got like messages coming in at. It's blocking my audio. Did you say where a long island city. That's like we see the as you can see a reflection of the picture behind me. Then so we got a dual. This eastside skyline of manhattan. Wow from the cleans. Were bridge all the way down to. I call it. Fuck you tower freedom tower. It looks like a big place. The world trade tower swit- perfect did you Did you just get tired of l. a. was l. a. Something you just like. I had enough of it. I started my career in new york. I was at indiana university actually on opera theater scholarship invoice opera. Yeah baby assorted taking piano four. My i n teacher taught me the alphabet so she could teach. We outlay the piano. And then i was opera. Theater major switch injured at theater. Dropped out to new york in the late seventies before you were born and then I was born in san onto. Thank you oh you were. Yeah yeah. I'm not that young. Well you are well. You lost goods. Who cares you know gone through various phases of look like someone actually wrote me on social media once and they said you didn't age. Well i wrote back. And i said depending on when you caught me. You're absolutely right. I've had my scaring periods and one was what i did team wolf. But that she will stat was such a frigging psycho. And i was in a very dark jury but i looked terrible. Worked right but luckily claude joy back flaunt my way back. Hey so we we have a segment. We started out with guests. Now we're just trying to get him mental health check and it's just called how you doing and it just sort of like at this moment in time with all the work you're doing and everything and just life in general just kind of a check and how you doing you know. I have to say without sugar coating I'm on one hand kind of amazed that i'm still alive. Real and Well i've gone through. Nobody knows nobody. i mean. it amazes me. But i've gone through my dark periods you know In the mostly in the two thousands. Right after i got off dawson's creek but You know. I mean a year of quarantine a year of having one play cancelled in greenwich another. Play that we will work. Shopping debris fraud with producers. Got henry. Fonda jimmy stewart. I had a hallmark movie at episode of the tv show at eight personal appearances wiped off the boards. I'm not whining. Because i have friends. Who do almost strictly theater and they were white. They're still hurting really bad. You know so. I was able to go back to work february. Twenty twenty one doing so. Take my jay garrick to Star girl and then. I just got back from six weeks in vancouver during the last two episodes of seven for flash. You've asked me how. I'm doing at in typical fashion. I'm telling you what i'm doing. How i'm doing is i'm pretty damn grey channel. That's that's that's what you gotta be. I'm learning. I'm learning gratitude. I the more. I no matter. What at the end of the day. I just before i close my eyes and it helps me sleep but i just start to think about what i'm grateful for. It's just weird how that works instead of getting in these dark dreams. Are these thoughts. What hey stop stop. What are you grateful for. And i start naming. Things put my grandma's face in my head. And then i go to bed and it's just i sleep better. Yeah i've a friend. A good friend is an actor. And you know how we are i. I'm this way out a bit. You are is that you know. Who's on a series and he'll look at it and he'll hate everything he did and he'll be telling his wife guy he this. I didn't do this. I don't like Stop him he just told me this heels. She'll stop him and say okay. Now tell me five things that you like about yourself. And that she won't let him go to sleep on that negatively journal tearing himself down the do you get like that. Are you someone who tears yourself down or or maybe that's something that was in your past are you. Are you really hard on yourself. I find that the longer. I wait between the time i did something and when i watch it if i when i watch it and i do i can't stop but i'm almost invariably i've learned to manage. It might be blue and it was such a big departure from anything. I've ever done for season of blue. Two episodes is a drug addicted. Copped and I know what i intended now. It ended up being incredibly received an incredibly reviews. When i saw i was in l. a. And i got so upset. I jumped in car. And i drove to zero idle wilder lake arrowhead and just stayed in a motel. I was so disappointed. And freak down what i ended and i still do that like. I'll watch recently a hallmark movie or an episode of the flash. Watch it. And i'll hate the way i look. I didn't accomplish if i wait. I forget what i intended ryan. I appreciate what i did. Yeah that's gotta be. That's gotta be really tough to know. Yeah i'm i'm i'm really hard myself to. Oh my gosh. Look at all. And i started to look you. Don't ever let that go. I don't care who you are people say. Oh come on you gotta let it. Go you gotta. It's my friends who give me shit about that. But i try not to watch things right away like you said give it some time and then i actually can go back now. I hadn't seen an episode of smallville in years. And i saw an episode. That was like on a who go. You know why. The hell not and i go. I used to think he looks terrible. Ball you looks like she didn't leave. Hit now mike. Do you actually look to be ten years younger to ten years younger. Watch later you have to go back and watch your scenes with glover and go. That is damned good. Tv you have to. You have to say that is smoking. I can notice nuances moments. When i when i in that goes from my whole acting career moments where you go. Oh you really let go you. In that moment. You weren't thinking about looking cool. You weren't thinking about saying it a certain way you were just being and that's a rarity but when i see that i kind of i. I give a small applause to to myself. But that's rare. I don't do that a lot. Could you imagine if i'm constantly and i'm just sitting there watching a oh yeah terrific. He knows very funny will reaches the pilot for flash when they asked me to come. Back is area henry allen berry's father wrongly convicted of killing his mother in front of tendrils berry. You know which was not by origin story in nineteen ninety roy at all so that was just a role ever do whether i had never been ariel in or not but having did berry allen. It brought those things together. You know. it's like you talk about being in the moment being close to who you really are. 'cause it was a unique situation. I was playing his father. I had done this role. He knew i have played the role. I knew what he was taking on. Maybe what slip is hopes and dreams and insecurities might may and so there were times in those beautifully written seeings between henry berry In the in the prison in iron heights that i didn't know if was talking to berry or if old-fashioned was talking to do flash or john was talking to grant and when those things all come cancer. Yeah it's it's really than those. Seems i can watch and go. They will always be among our shaver. 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Wow helix is offering up to two hundred dollars off all mattress orders and to free pillows for our listeners at helix sleep dot com slash inside. That's helixsleep dot com slash inside for up to two hundred dollars off and two free pillows helix sleep. Do you look back. And thank god you know if we had the producers or the just the knowledge we have now and if we had different producers designers or whatever it is for the flash of nineteen ninety. When you were there this could have been something big and also. How did you deal with that. Disappointment of it only lasted a year right. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah well we had all. We were the most expensive show warner brothers. Ever done for television alive that point. It was a high tech suit designed by oscar-winner. You know bob short and built And our writing was great. Janney vilson pulled mayo. Were excellent. i mean we had howard shakin as a story editor of had a. I don't even want to start naming because we had so many rate and talented people and we were nominated for an emmy for art direction. We did a big lot premiere on the backs. Lots of the international press are reviews with rich washington bos your time a big louisville courier journal. You know. They talked about the acting in. They talked about the art direction and they talked about at the time state of the art effects for television and so we were a creative and industry it now. It was the hardest thing i have ever done. I mean we would start at seven. Am monday morning in work. So ten or eleven at night tremendous seven. Eleven to tuesday a work till two in the afternoon on wednesday. Come in it too. So by wednesday or thursday recruiting all night by saturday. We were lacking in the back lot at were brothers to shoot a for right. And we're back in. Its seventy monday morning And you're an every though urine. Every i mean you're the flash. I mean our transportation department. Whenever i thought i had it that i'd look at you. Know the fact that they were they were having twenty five. Twenty six hour days are over was through the roof and we were all ready budgeted so by the time. We did that through the third week in august through the second week in may with five days off forty offer christmas and that was it because we had to do mostly live practical tax. We didn't have cgi ability than that. We have now and so it was hours and hours and hours and danny and paul were uncompromising. They wanted to do the show that they wanted to say so. I can look at it today. I can appreciate can appreciate the fact that the technology is come. It's thirty years later on pope. John and i think what i'm saying. I think what i meant to say was. Why didn't the stars aligned for that project. And now that i'm hearing you say all this all you had all these great components of it's a widened succeed has to be even disappointed. Now you're like you know it just it was revered. It was all these things. So what was it well. It's a combination of things. I think number one. It was three years ago. Putting on a superhero costume in nineteen ninety was very different from putting on a superhero costume in twenty s. We were like. I was hesitant to even auditioned for it. Because i had been on broadway new york. I had my two day time. That i had i fashioned myself a series. I thought only superhero reference. I had was being spooked at that point. And i think that that was where my talent and then april webster. I'm sure you know grit multiple emmy award winning John just read the script. That's all i ask. And then i read it in there. Were all these human values. There was the un-blessed son of a cop family in which real cops work the streets. But i had gone into crime lab so that my mom didn't have to worry that oliver men might not come home that night. My older brother was the street cop. My dad loved him. My dad was always putting me does bear. My berry was the un-blessed son. You know in the family who gets these superpowers in his first reaction is out of order of nece. I have no desire is zero. I have no pretensions bureau. I have settled for my lot in life. That's the until his brothers killed and then it's like okay. it's on and then he has all disability that he knows his dad his dad so crowd but he can't tell them so there was all i'm starting to feel it. You know by about that point rush and then they promised me we will not put you in a pair of red tights. I came to kind of regret that later. Cassette suit was so hot it was. Ibm for twenty minutes. And you could ring me out. But i don't wanna he'll less than people in here is those of us who've been fortunate enough to play these iconic characters around him whine about our sue right right right but there were. There were challenges. You know but i think it was. It was a couple. Cbs had the oldest demographic right so all of our in-house advertising did not reach our target audience. Number two they were too confident given our reviews from the preview that we did during the summer. So there's money notice pouring money into this and they threw us into their most difficult time slot opposite cosby in the sense at their peak in nineteen ninety and then even so we held a decent third place and cvs said if you could hold those numbers the reviews were a rightist. Paper was flash lists. Cbs strong ratings week. Even though we were third in our time sli But then we were offered baseball world series for two weeks and then we were back on. And then you're off for the gulf war then. They moved us to the half hour. A hour show on the half hour has never worked in history of television. Then they moved our night. It was kind of good news band news in may when i had flown back to new york last seen with mark camel five in the morning trying to get the last shot is sun was coming up a yell cut. I rip the wings off thrown in the air and swear. I'll never get to another superhero suit. As long as i live. You know those kind of the bat that newses flashes going a second season. The good news is the flash is growing a second circuit was yes. I be standing under the shower at six o'clock not knowing whether it was. Am or pm. I mean it took us ninety crazy. You're going crazy crazy. Isn't that amazing. How fast the body and the mind can just deteriorate. I mean you probably didn't have any time to exercise real. You're trying to you know and you just physically mentally exhausted. And that's where i you realize i can't do this anymore. So it's a blessing in disguise like you got good reviews. You did this show and it just it was killing you in a way and you're like sort of relieved ya of relief. Although i realize going into second season i had already have for several episodes. Set some ground rules as far as the first day of shooting series. I think i was in the super twelve hours and then a two in the morning. They pulled me out of the suit for me to do the berry ounce ings on friday but coin you know and then at times they go very flash berry flash glued on takeoff acid on the chronic tape Back on you look like shit. Iago look like sri up broke out in iraq so we had to lay some grounds. Do the berry. Seems i than do the flash seats if you have to come do the flash scenes But we don't go. Flash bird Tom and i would have been able to make some more requests. Going into a second season. Tries to preserve myself. I had an awesome. I always mentioned dane farwell. He was my stunt double and he was as much the flash as i was rhymes barrielle but dame was iraq. You know Yes so i went to a new york and dancing to sell on broadway on the tony's best play when emerging asked and howard stringer at corporate. Cbs was the tony awards and he came up introduced himself to the apologize for help Handled show wow. I mean when you look back i mean you've done. I mean you studied opera. I still can't believe if i said law done i mobile able. Would you say i would say well. First of all of rotties tenor aria. I can't remember exactly what operates from but it's a. It's a tenor oriented abroad thing. Can you jump into it. Can you jump into that voice whenever you want. Is that something you can just jump into. Not so much now. I mean there are certain things that happen physiologically rising practicing every day. It's a muscle. What would to be a spin is now a wide wobble riot. I mean we all hear that in it happens every voice and so you know whereas i used to sing constantly in our redo recitals redo studio recitals. Keep it for myself. But now i don't it's it's becoming so hard to even just practice for my own satisfaction because it's physiologically just got sued high admire people who've done so operas because and you've won awards because to me. It's something i could not do to me. It seems like the hardest thing in the world. You have memorize twenty thirty pages a day. And i don't see it terrifies me. It terrifies me. The thought of doing that. And i know james franco got on the soap and he wanted to do it and he really put everything into it but was it. Did you find that you like doing soaps or were you in exhausting thing to do. It wasn't exhausting. Course i was twenty four like when i was on guiding light twenty five and no. It wasn't exhausting. And i listened to the people who had been on a long time. Who had a method for dealing with it. You've read the script you take all of your seems out. You put them in chronological order. Then you look at the week's work and you budget out you have to do this scene. You know these normal because you do an episode a day and then you do four or five episodes that week and the night before you set your weeks work. You're lucky enough cat strips that form dance and then the night before you work on the script for the next day. What was tough was for four months while it was doing dance. Lunacy times a week on broadway. I was playing this crazy character and all my children at the same time. Who's peaking out at thirty forty pages. Wait a minute Ask doing broadway. You're also doing the soap at the same time i go to. Abc at seven. In the morning. And i shoot all day except on matinee gays. I'd shoot until there'd be a car to take me to the matinee. They take me back to abc at shoot in the afternoon and they take me back to do the evening performance. It was one of then. I do the performance. I'd go home. And i tweeted my lines until about. This is one of the most energetic energizing times of my life and i ended up hemorrhaging. Or you know at the end of that But it was very exciting that character. Interestingly up carter jones all my children served as the basis of a thesis at a major university on by was very violent very misogynistic abusive toward women. And how at same time. There was a fascination with that character ends repulsion. You know and the intersection of those two things on. I couldn't believe were doing on daytime. Tv we never be. They never be able to do it now. Even when i went back to play. Eddie ford in two thousand ten one life to live. It was great fun but i couldn't even believe what we were saying. You know tanzi ass boys your digital mother. You're all this on daytime you know. Yeah that's crazy you ever get. I mean do you get stressed in terms of getting zayed's or or of with work or always trying to be great or proving yourself. Do you think that sort of never ends. Is that something you've dealt with in your career or have you never been dealt with things it sometimes. I wonder why you always. 'cause it's you move from anxiety myself move from anxiety There's a period. When you don't have part the anxiety is am. i gonna get an audition. Then you get an audition anxiety. America do then the anxiety of tonight get arguments. Five minutes of i got the part and then anxiety right now. He doing 'cause you're old. You're always you know resigned. Went back to work. You're always good as your next next project. What are you doing next you know like. How does i do this right now. Michael present present damaged. Yeah but yeah yeah. It's but you're not. Remember those wonderful letters from martha graham to agnes demille where one of them says to the other. There's never any satisfaction whatsoever any time. There's only a sort of on queer dissenters thatch. that's so sad said net. There's a life force beach. Was the baby. Propels us to what i'm phasing out hardly at a pace maybe faster than the others right as an artist you know but yeah do you enjoy late. Do you enjoy honestly being on the set of the the flash and playing these characters in working with grant and tom and all these other people. Do you have an actual good time as a time in your life that you're like i'm really enjoying this. I'm enjoying doing the work. I like the character and playing. I like what i'm doing. I liked being on. The show is how you feel mostly particularly but then it was mostly just working with grant. And i knew with him playing the son who was the only one to believe his father innocent meeting in prison jr it would carve out a special relationship for us in the middle of action adventure ride at the amusement park lights. Go down music. Hushes walk into the phone booths. Who pick up the phones. We can't do our business or sitting there. All we can do is memorize the words look at each other make connection to tell the truth you know and those were wonderful and i enjoyed it while doing i appreciate it pretty soon after we did it grams funny because i saw him at the up fronts in new york and she had seen pilot and i had and he was like man. Have you seen the pilot. juicy are seen. you've seen the hand on the glass. Pay of the father son and i said no as it is how is it he said man i was sitting there gorge. You can't cry you shaniqua on drew of at your own sea grant wanted to cry after watching did you when you watch did you. Did you cry when you watched it. I don't remember but i remember being moved. They did something really interesting To get me on the edge mine. Motion stayed in uttar director andrew. Christ our joe. Johns greg atlantic. We went into that seeing in the prison. And david came up to me and said we've written some lines that we didn't want to see or hear until for grant until this moment shot so don't come in on your queue. Don't kill come in until he says the words whatever it was. I love you dad and i'm sitting there. We'll see now. I'm really this. You know meisner would have been so riveting job. what's he gonna say and he gets to the part races. You remember when you told me to change finding because she didn't want anyone to associate me with you while i'm glad changed name. I am proud of you. I am proud to be your son. I lost so much so that it was unusable but we said dude again right away. Don't cut tape. Just do it again. And i was able to manage the emotion in it was still there people's that how did you work up the lotion for those offer. Sunseekers as the problem wasn't working on the emotional problem was not letting emotion run away with you. So that europe's they're having a wonderful mass to batory experience. The audience is going. God me true true because i think you know somebody told me wants. If you're doing a scene where you have to cry. You should think of not crying because most people don't wanna cry and they end up crying so you're really trying not to cry. And that is what really affects people. I think i think that sort of reaction what were the line. Yeah go ahead drunk. Yeah you know people who are trunk. Trying not look drunk. Yeah that's true. Mostly most often. Unless you're really noxious you know. Hey what were the lines. What were the lines they gave you. Do you remember which one's the one that i had not heard yes. Let's said i said oh those those were the ones he was telling housing that hit me on a number of levels because our show one season and i do that they might want to cut ties with pass in order to have a president a future show that hopefully will be as big a commercial success as creative success which is what i hoped for grant and And when he let into those words you remember when you wanted to change name. Because you didn't want anyone to socio Me with you. While i am glad i didn't change Proud of unit proud to be your son. Ch- then is grant talking to. John is new flash talking into old flag right or very talking to his add. It all collided right. That's pretty amazing. Inside you is brought to you by nitsa you know it can be a little frustrating. Especially if you're in a hurry or you're running late find yourself at a railway. Crossing waiting for a train and at the signals are going in the trains. Not even there yet. 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Wow movie that you will never see. I don't know i like now. They decided to go a different way with african pilot presentation after Don't feel bad for that actor because the next thing i know i'm sitting in a movie without pacino. He's so i got dawson he got without jail. I don't allow the tv show last longer than the movie. Movie out there and it's gone. It's true but they had me watch it the pilot presentation and i knew immediately and we forget this because it became a pop cultural phenomenon. We forget how unusual it was at the beginning to have a show in which the kids were talking like that we're dealing emotionally an entirely with issues and trying to express them in a tabular Very few kids at remember. Big star sippy kevin williams. Some one time kids. Don't talk like that and without hesitation. You shot back. Maybe not that they liked to so it was wilmington. North carolina at the creek was an actual character in the show. The waters of that. You know Southeastern coastal waterway town and the issues that they were dealing with people forget. It was the critically acclaimed dawson's creek for a couple of shirts. And i knew immediately i thought wow this special. And then i've talked to ken williamson. He said promising won't turn you into say. The name of the show sounds disparaging a certain kind of tv parent. He said you will have real subsidiary. Independent story lines that intersect with and inform. What the kids are going through. You will just be it. Added kitchen san have a good day at school and he was as good as his word. You know because there were were there. Were some really intense episodes. The i even watched it. I remember watching. I couldn't help but watch had to watch that show and i mean. I ended up working with josh in a movie called urban legend. But did you. did you get along with everybody. I mean obviously worked with james a little more right. I've worked with james the most. It was interesting to see these young actors that i think we were. We benefited from being in north carolina. Out of the glare of la you know because these young actress went from relative unknowns to i mean superstar and their faces on the covers of all these magazines that that's right now and to watch the way they handled it. I mean it was a i remember james. When he signed his first autograph had to go. Tell mary margaret humes about it. She played his mom and when his movie varsity blues came out his parents born in town. So we asked mayor margaret denied to go with him to see it so that is pretty cool so he asked his tv parents to go with him to the premier for varsity blues. That's nerdy sweet. That's pretty damn sweet now. I bet his ribs sat there like we would have come. It wasn't the premier but it was showing right in north carolina. You know it was. It was very very sweet but it was also interesting to watch you. Work with josh. Josh has gary different way of working from james. Who at that time was very cerebral. You know very very emotionally logical. I mean i was watching this german. Of course he worked with Code as a playwright on i mean. He's he had. He knew the work and and he would have notes after a script read through. And some people were offended by that but kevin williamson and i found this which writers and producers who are really secure. He was open to the notes. He said yeah but ninety eight percent of the time is right while you know so But it was really really interesting and in the lives of those young people to see how what they were. Playing on screen was narrowing. What's happening off camera. You know what do you mean would astronauts anymore. Well they were some of them. Were seeing each other right. A together different. Was that hard onset. Some stuff that went on. I have feeling that by fourth fifth sixth season a combination of things happen number one. They were getting all these other offers. They wanted to make the leap to what was next. And whatever character conflicts personalities different way of working accommodations that. They had to make to work with each other to really grind on irritate. So i was very happy to leave. It was the fourth or fifth episode of the fifth season. You know where my character died. Eating ice cream don't which was kind of areas. I was known as the ice cream man on set on devoured ice cream. Anytime right there. Where you've set when you die with the kevin call you and said hey this is going to be. It was gone Kevin was gone. He left after season. Two and greg berlanti came in as for a while and then But i knew after season four there was going to be a shift because the kids were gonna go to college and they was leaves the creek and sure enough at the end of season for the all the adults contracts laps and they asked us for six so's instead of nineteen and i thought this has been such a rich and wonderful experience. You know i. I don't i don't want to go back and be holding. The new baby very waging appearance. Day you know. I just didn't want it to turn into that And so i set my price really high expecting that they would made it and everybody went to start season five. I was fine. I was in. La had four great seasons under my belt accredited. Four and i think during the filming of the first or second episode of the. Wb shut them down because they didn't have any story and And paul stupid called me in. La producer said. Can i have coffee with you. And so i said sure. I figured something's up. And he said here's the deal as you're wondering if you would come back we know you've been a little bit happy last caesar to diminishing role the parents If we promise you too great scripts and the money you're asking would you come back. Okay unlike yeah. Yeah killed the character as like good as their word again. Those two of my favorite episodes and there it was such a respectful and affectionate farewell to character. I couldn't imagine if really validated. It really made me feel the previous four years had been about something special you know and so i felt that it ended exactly the right way for everybody. It gay james propels Therapy they made it. So there was an incident will go into. He was responsible for what i went out to do when i was killed in car accident on mary. Margaret had all of the parental duties splitting them right and she played the scene so wonderfully the funeral at six feet under episode. Where i came back and i visited visitations with all the kids sort of wrapped up. My relationships made the long by. It's called sh so. Yeah no it felt exactly right. Do you think it's Do you remember the first time you were told you're gonna play or you're gonna edition for a parent or someone like 'cause you go from this transition like. I still feel young. i'm young. I'm young in the middle. Oh you're going to be the parent of this and this idea going into through the guard now. Do you remember that. First dad role. No only reason i do is because somebody else. My first dad was in nineteen eighty nine playing Bharti books in neverending story. To father of sebastian. So i started playing dad's nine years into my professional career. Why at the third thirty thirty eighty nine of born at fifty five. So i was thirty. Four thirty four thirty five And i didn't think anything of it until people were like or dawson's origin planet data. I'm like why would i be you know. Is it good part. Yeah and i played superheroes since psychopaths everson. Yeah where do keep in touch with anybody. From dawson's mary margaret appearances. Mary margaret humes. And i did a pilot in chicago with katie holmes. Yeah What was that twenty eighteen where she was an fbi agent. But it didn't go. We thought it was going to go so she didn't invite you to the tom cruise wedding when they got married. Not married to that. You interpreted jumped around on the couch together. Could have been just a real treat by the way you went to indiana university and you went to high school. In louisville. i grew up in indiana and went to college at western kentucky university in. Oh did you really say we fly swap. You went to smarter schools though. Yom i love western kentucky. But i got lucky west of the hilltop hilltop of western kentucky. Oh yeah all right. So this is called shit. Talking with john wesley shipp or could change ship talking the for. There's just say these are questions. These are questions from my fellow patrons who love you and they get to ask questions so Here we go step is flash your personal favorite superhero or is there someone else. You like more of well you know. I have to hats off tim. Birds batman and the flash being developed to order brothers at the same time around a new aesthetics for presenting these superheroes dark brooding. We went darker. Flash in the flash really is in fact carbonates than tino drew flash groused at one point. He said Makes plans so dark slash not supposed to be that dr. Everything's all shot at night. All streets wet you know. We felt we had to do that. Because we had to ground it in some grit to have people take it seriously. So i would say if i had another Be batman you know betsy. Dc are you excited to be reprising. The role of jay garrick and. I know i'm thrilled to see you again. On star girl. Oh yeah i'm mean. Jay garrick is the role you know when they asked me to come back and get back in a new version of a nineteen ninety soon for l. swirls and in crisis in two thousand eighteen. I was like are you out of your minds. I'm like you know that was twenty years ago right. Let's think pulled it off. Jay is the character that i feel is the appropriate part for me to play now because in the comics. He's really in his nineties but he was exposed to address in chemicals which lands him in his mid late fifties. So that's the character that i enjoy exploring second henry allen. Still my favorite ryan ryan my engineer. He's here you have you seen most episodes of flash of no. You've seen a lot of them. Though i have seen a lot. Yes and do you want to ask a question. Come on you gotta have something for him a house now he get it. Watch this house grant guston as a human being good question. He was on this podcast. I could tell you. But he's But you work with him closely. So how is that. I have to say it was one of the as i've already said is one of the most rewarding experience is because people always ask me what grant is lying but grant works from his truth. So what you see. There's there's a fun there's a spark in there's an exquisite vulnerability at a real dedication to trying whether it's a superhero context or whether it's one of his independent films. Whatever it is to treat it like we're trying to get to the truth of something here and let's work together and he does get your If someone is not on that wavelengths was someone's not taking seriously or someone's not on in you know. I i ran into this with back today. Time in two thousand ten for four months. I mean people walking the halls going up so job. Unlike that luke kill that attitude will kill anything. You have to offer any creative impulse. You might have that attitude will kill it. Yeah people's what's your favorite role. You've ever done this on doing right now. Whatever it is is my favorite and whether it's daytime tv audience considerably. I two thousand ten. We were having twenty two million viewers in their early eighties by two thousand. Ten was likely one million viewers episode whether it was that or the tony award. Winning play on broadway or primetime or drug addicted competent. Nypd blue are running around at my age superheroes whatever since that moment. That's my favorite. Wow that's a great answer we n. p. love the episodes were mark hamill guest starred back in the flash Any fun memories. You have about him that you'd like to share because he's a character. Mark was really helpful to me. 'cause i've already told you i was very reticent to go into a superhero soon so i was like. I don't have any lines in the suit. I don't wanna be role in the suit. I don't to have the cow back. Have like eight twinkie. And drinking a diet coke. I don't want to turn into a mascot right. So it was pretty stiff will here comes mark as the trickster balls to the wall no just one hundred percent commitment and i'm like will is mark. Hamill can bit to that degree than i need to get over my that self you know and i think by the last episode of the show the trial of the trickster. He's mind control flash. I was able not catching bullets from the police. Throwing bullets act the police which we could never do today. and knocking you over parking meters and you know being his sidekick i was actually able to relax and have some fun but in the new show his comes back is the trickster in the new show and we go to earth ray. Any shooting bullets at a bank robbery. And i'm catching them in my health. And i showed him the bullets in my helmet drought bullets and coat and he's wired with a bomb and he says yeah but i'm not out a thumbs and our faces or disclose the yukon says where grownups that's brilliant. That's by raj says. Is there a moment your career. You can point to as the where you felt. You had achieved success in the industry. No this is a tough question because you know that moment. That's good enough that you felt like i have made it and whatever happens. Afterwards or the downs. The ups the downs. But you know. I think about that sometimes but How would you answer that. It's it's it's a process of rolls out right because i started in daytime I remember when i won the first emmy for good guy going to psychopaths. Douglas cummings opposite. Julianne moore was my leading lady Our member jane elliott jane. Jane elliott actress. She she had said to me. He had general hospital. She said what you had your emmy now. You've had nothing left. Prove i was like well. I can't wrap my head around that. I constantly things to prove and then i got a prime time show. That was at the center of and that was a lock to prove you know and then there was a completely one hundred eighty degree opposite character. Ordinary mit blue. A lot to prove. And then the're every step of the way and then once you've established yourself. I was going to save nate. Should never make it. Then you have to prove if you're still interesting and relevant in other words might show up on the set the flash in the flash ninety costume never gonna go. When's lunch you know now. As it turned out everyone was so invested in the comics. The grant was like this thing we've ever done in and and the the executive producers they really enjoyed. But no you never. I never never feel what about you. I think you know when. I hear that question. It's it's weird. How where my mind goes i think. Hey you had a lot of success it fun. You made some money. You make people happy. If i if i died right now i'd be like hey i had success. That was i mean what level of success. There's millions of levels. I mean i can say. I'm not going to be successful until i win an oscar or i'm not going to be successful because then you're going to be chasing even pass that oscar. It's just not it's not. it's not tangible. You have to find something inside you that really you know you have to be proud of yourself. You have to learn to be proud of my learning to love yourself. And i think that that's how you kind of figured out and you go. What is success. Well i've had success look at what you've done instead of trying to chase something that you think is going to give you. You know happiness so it's a. It's a tough question for me. That's where my mind goes. So i think that's healthy. Is something that i as. I've gotten older Practice you know. I've had to practice remembering that over the course of a forty year career. I've got to do things that have been really incredible. I've worked with wonderful people that i've contributed audits lead sincerely to the best of my ability at the time in whatever project. I love the halfway through david. Copperfield by charles dickens. He does a the slides one of his great achievements. He says is never to put one hand onto something onto which i could throw my entire self and that sort of has been ever since i read that. That's been my mantra azam. Isn't that incredible. Say that again. Never put one hand to something on something onto which i could throw mine entire self. Isn't that something that this is what i said about soaps never to affect a depreciation of any work that i was given to do whatever it was at been the hallmarks at my uncle. Sleep something that does two statements. That's awesome that is awesome big stevie w last question. What's the one thing you have yet to accomplish accomplish but as high on the bucket list you. Is there anything that you like you know. I'd like to do think this goes back to managing expectations. You know. I mean things seem to appear when i'm ready to do them. You know what i mean. Whether it's the powder burns the wonderful project. David gregory did where we won an award For a radio drama. Or i'm result sheriff in it has was on and Or there's a wonderful play that david has written about a lifelong friendship of henry. Fonda jimmy stewart despite fast political differences. We try to realize or know about the extent of and romantic rivals and has called hankins. You build a plane. 'cause every sunday they get together make model airplanes for the degree speaking or they were fighting over politics whether jimmy was talking potentially to the house on american activities or jane was going to annoy. Whatever it was it becomes a metaphor for. How do we cobble together and stay in relationship with people with whom we have fast ideological differences so if ever there was a valuable message for today and that was the play that were shopped in new orleans has a jack badminton. And and and bruce at sonny's fought Shepherding that project will there multiple tony winning producer's producers soc and that was interrupted for cova. But we hope to get back on. Track is coming winter so other than wanting to continue to play a variety of interesting people. I guess -essarily chair where it is. You know one of the most rewarding recent experiences i've had was doing twelve angry men at At the judson theatre playhouse in pinehurst north carolina. You know working with the best juror number three. I will ever see and the two of us going up against each other you know and doing it for the result of morehouse scholarship. Saying five high schools for they bought them to play at. They studied it according to the constitution. And what the bill of rights issue was being brought up all through twelve angry men interesting. Now that i'm playing henry fonda in hankins jim but they were like there dated miss a beat at the end they were is worthy of me as any high profile project i've ever done isn't that something's so as long as there are interesting parts and i don't drive myself too crazy but as you said you said it and it's a practice. I have to practice reminding myself that there that i had contributed in meaningful ways in a variety of on a variety of platforms. And am i eight lists absolutely not. I'm still had me. I'm working on this. I think you without a doubt have. And i think it's also you have to practice that from me. I'm trying to practice. Just enjoy this. You said in the variability of the podcast. He said i'm here with you. I'm just enjoying this moment with you. If i learn how to do that. More where i'm just with my dog or i'm just with my friends or now it's work now if i could just enjoy instead of going through the motions or going through these moments trying to get to the next moment. I'm missing everything. So i. That's what i'm i'm working on. Believe me it's a work in fucking progress brother so but look. This has been a real tree. I'm glad you don't do. A lot of podcasts No no not many. 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Biden v. Florida Man.

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Biden v. Florida Man.

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Who want to do the right thing to be able to do it. I say to these governors please. Health aren't going to help at least get out of the way. The people are trying to do the right thing so when we talked about this last monday tommy and love it argued that biden himself using the bully pulpit to push vaccine requirements might risk further polarizing. The issue i disagreed or do you think is it. Should i say you're both right. Or should i say you're both wrong. I mean the hottest take would be that we're both wrong. And then you can. You know you can just slide right in. There is the right one. I think i don't know whether you're right. You're both wrong. It's not the most collegial answer but you know it's the hottest take it. That's that's the goal. Right is the highest score at here. Televise you get. This clinic is going to be serious. No in all seriousness. It is definitely going to pull the rise. The idea vaccine mandates more. But i think that is also a risk were taking. I think there's another choice. In an era of negative polarization joe biden speaking about anything will polarize it. In some way among republicans if biden were to come out and announce that he is just he has decided the grass is green in. The sky is blue. They're going to be some that. Republicans are we're going to switch their opinion and thank the sky green grass blue the world in which we live but he. He should do it. Because it's the right thing to do. These governors are they are killing people. Sounds like a horrible say but people are going to die because of this people are gonna get sick because of it people lose their jobs because of it kids are going to miss out on school and have their education messed with because of it and it and he should absolutely call it out because the people in the joe biden is right on the sci. He's right on the medicine in. He is right politically in these states. The view of the majority of people agree with joe biden about mass mandates in backsied mandates in those situations but so he should absolutely call it out so that the residents of those days. Who's fucking faulted is that this is happening. It's not joe biden's fault it's not random vaccinate people around. It's a bunch of republican politicians who are doing perform live cruelty on behalf of a minority of their citizens who have a disproportionate amount of political power. And and i am very worked up about this. It is because you know who was being This may seem obvious right now but the people who are at most risk because of this are the kids who don't get who have no choice about being vaccinated. They're all going back to juggle their all at much greater risk. And we can do you know. There's obviously lots of questions about whether kids get it as author they get it as bad but that's not even really the point. Is that by your choice to not get vaccinated is not just about you deciding to put yourself at risk. You're putting everyone else at risk. And you're putting children at risk. And i think the the the children aspect of this. The recipe were putting. Kids should be pointed out more because that is what these guys are. All going to go back to. School in many without a mask mandate because rhonda's anticipated. They can't do it even if you are school or wants to do the right thing. And so biden. Coin that allah is the right thing to do. I think it could in some ways put it might polarize it. Some among people who already feel this way but it could put political pressure on them to do something different. Yeah my view on this. Is that i care a lot about polarization and persuasion when we are when the goal is to try to get votes or no trying to get votes right now. We're trying to get shots and arms right so we're not. The persuasion thing has run. Its course the goal is to get shots in arms. I most importantly vaccine requirements save lives and they work there's consistently six seven percent of people in polls who say that they will not get the vaccine unless they required to and then if they required to they will that's that translates to millions of people nationwide France did this as soon as they announced. Vaccine requirement millions and millions of people signed up in the next forty eight hours. It works second like you said. Vaccine requirements are popular poll of twenty thousand adults in june found that sixty four percent support a requirement that everyone get vaccinated including forty five percent of republicans. It is an issue that divides the republican party. Seventy percent of all voters support a requirement for air travel and sixty one percent support vaccine requirement for schools. Second even if they weren't popular or even if they cause a huge backlash from the right wing media ecosystem. I would argue that. This would still be good politics for joe biden. And here's why the white house has understood since day. One that voters top priority is killing the pandemic and reviving the economy. And this is how you kill the pandemic and like i. I don't think you can crush the pandemic without a vaccine requirement. At this point persuading vaccine hesitant americans will only get you so far and it will definitely not get anywhere close to hurt immunity which we may never reach anyway at this point but vaccine requirements at this point our only chance and again vaccine requirements are giving americans choices. You got three choices one. You can get a free safe lifesaving. Vaccine to you can pay out of your pocket to get regularly tested and where mask. Perhaps for years indefinitely or three you can stay home. Those are three choices. The choice that you don't get is to endanger the rest of us by going out into public places unvaccinated and unmasked. That's your choice. it is just the conversation on. This is so wild. It's like no one has stopped to think about it for two fucking seconds you know what's not revolutionary or new vaccine requirements. Kyle starts preschool this week. You and i have to go to her doctor. And get her dr to sign a piece of paper and says she's been vaccinated against a whole bunch of diseases have been controlled for decades yet. A whole bunch. People think they have a right to gonna fucking airplane unvaccinated for a virus. It is raging across the country right. Now if you go to. Kat like colleges require vaccination right is it is just absolutely you do not have unlimited freedom right like their privileges and requirements of citizenship. There's a reason you have to wear a seatbelt when you're in a car. You have to wear a helmet driver motorcycle because your freedom to choose that cost us all this money because you end up. Getting injured killed ending up in the hospital like there are requirements. This is a basic thing. And you're right. If you wanna stay home you can stay home like you can do that but you. There do not have a right to get on airplanes. You don't have a right to bring a knife on an airplane or frankly even a bottle of water through the airport security these days and so the is just. It's like this keeps being treated in the conversation around it. As if this crazy thing that was just invented by george soros in hollywood leads it is just. It has been the common way in which we have done things. Vaccines were invented. And it's not radical to do it now. It's not democrats should not shy away from this. I lean into this fight. Do not accept the republican framing. Here this is some fuck in federal government mandate blah blah blah bullshit. We're the ones offering people choice. Republicans are not offering people the choice to live in a country where it's safe to be public. Yes what sir do you know. What's big government. Authoritarianism governors telling local cities in schools. That they see what they can teach in classroom or whether kids hasn't where mass or not that is that is not freedom or individuals that is big authoritarianism and just which which which brings us which brings us to these republican governors. That joe biden was talking about. They obviously didn't take too kindly to biden's suggestion florida's rhonda santa's who signed an executive order this week threatening to withhold funding from schools that require mask mandates amid a record number of cova cases and hospitalizations in his state including twenty one thousand infections among children. Just this week. He had this to say the president biden. Joe biden is taken to himself to try to single out. Florida over cove it. This is a guy who ran for president saying he was going to quote. Shut down the virus. And what does he done. He's imported more virus from around the world by having a wide open southern border. Why don't you do your job. Why don't you get this border secure. And until you do that. I don't want to hear a blip about cova from you now now's the moment where i once again remind you all of the following politico headline from march eighteen. Twenty twenty one. how run to santa's won the pandemic. Dan tell us how he did it. How did he win. This pandemic by Having record hospitalizations record cova cases months into the vaccination campaign. Must we insist on making all the same mistakes over again right. this is. Yeah it like this. Rhonda's antecedent win the pandemic what happened was republicans spent decades convincing the mainstream media that they had to swerve out of their way whenever there was a chance to possibly say republicans right democrats were wrong and they put a giant fucking journalistic mission accomplished banner in florida long before the virus was crushed is just absolute stupidity and the mean like that we. That's just like fox news right wing media mad lips right. Joe biden border. People joins importing cove it across the board of the fuck. You talking about. It's spreading in your state. Which i would mind. You is not on the border. You're surrounded by water unless you were worried about people coming in from georgia and alabama is so stupid. Everyone's like hey what a smart thing to say. This is a fox thing now and it and it started showing up in some polls. Because they've done impose on like Who is to blame for. The rising cova cases and the majority of americans say the unvaccinated but then when you look party split many republicans if not a majority of the party. I can't remember the poll Now say that foreign travellers or foreigners from into the united states are responsible for the rising cova cases and sure enough on fox. You see all the time what santa's is saying is that somehow it is. The is the what's happening at the southern border and people coming in from mexico that are bringing in covert and that's why we have rising cases. Now that's the new conspiracy theory floating around on the right which you know neatly ties together. cova denial ism with You know their Their immigration attack. That always reminds me that. Tom cotton double harvard graduate in two thousand fourteen when he was running for senate out there. The idea that isis isis was infecting undocumented immigrants with a bullet in sneaking them across the border as a bioweapon out there. That's the triple wendy of Right wing paranoia right there. Jesus i mean it's not just the santa's you know jen psaki pointed at the white house. Briefing seven states have both a statewide ban on mask. Mandates and a prohibition on school districts from requiring mass in schools in some states as you pointed out have even banned businesses and universities from requiring workers and students to be vaccinated in texas. A teacher can be fined if they ask a student if they're vaccinated or if they ask unvaccinated students to wear a mask unfunny believable. My question is like how does biden crush the pandemic when governors of big red states. Like florida and texas refused to require masks or vaccines. He probably can't. Yeah i think they are doing. Is i think it's using the limited tools in their toolbox is they are now working aggressively to encourage businesses and others to put in place vaccine mandates. And i think that's probably how he does it. He gets around these governors by appealing directly to businesses universities and other private sector entities. That could impose these vaccine requirements on their own. And he has been using the bully pulpit if you will to raise concerns about delta and we've seen that that is working right. We are seeing record numbers of new vaccinations on a daily basis. Coming out of the white house Cova team and so it like people are there was a group of people who were unwilling to be vaccinated prior to this who now see the spread of delta and are worried about it and are getting vaccine now. That's not happening at anywhere. Near the rate we needed to. And it's certainly not happening with the sort of geographic diversity that we need it to because one of the problems we have is the right now. The were cove it is. The worst happens to be in the places that have least likely to get support from their local elected officials for mass mandates and for businesses to put in place vaccine mandates and so. This is very very hard. It is like these people are the republican politicians are making it. They're screwing everyone for the right because what happens Florida texas affects. Everyone else in the country. But they're binds doing what he can do but we should be crystal clear that it is very it is limited. He has limited authority. One thing that i think is interesting. Is that there. Is that secretary defense secretary. Lloyd austin was looking at getting a vaccine mandate in place for all active duty troops like that when a huge way of doing it like there's sort of like person vaccinated helps a lot and so there's not one thing you can do to get it done but there's lots of things that are happening that are clearly having an impact anything part of the strategy and by speech calling out republican governors. Which you know doesn't tend to call republicans a lot To make it clear. Who's at fault here and sure enough According to a new saint. Pete poll in florida. Rhonda's santa's is approval went from fifty five forty in may two forty four forty nine today and you have to wonder if that has to do with the fact that his state is now seeing record cova cases and hospitalizations and people are not that happy with the way he's handling the pandemic i. I don't know what else it could be. What do you think. I think that's right. He's certainly suffering. From the fact that i think a lot of people florida in around the country thought this was largely behind us that we were on a sort of inexorable path towards normalcy and now we have taken a huge step back. It just people's lives right. People are putting either because they have to because they choose wearing masks. Kids are going back to school. I think there was a lot of hope that that would feel much more normal. Maybe maybe no masks maybe much less fear of over the world in which like one kid coughs and everyone is a in a panic if you've ever had to stick a q. Tip up your child's nose to for a antigen test. That is a fucking horrible. Parents are having to deal with that. And so that's obviously affecting him. What that means for twenty twenty two or his role as the two thousand twenty four non trump front runner i think is a very different question but in the moment it is clearly hurting him. We should also talk about how this latest kovic surge is maybe affecting biden's approval Fivethirtyeight has him at fifty point six percent average approval rating which is the lowest of his presidency and worse than that. Dan chris. cillizza says that biden just had the worst week of his presidency. So i don't know where he goes from there he would probably quit now. A a politico morning consult poll from this week also found that sixty seven percent of voters believed that unvaccinated people bear the blame for the rising cova cases. But to me again we just talked about the santa's like the dip and biden's approval still feels like people are cranky and pissed off that this fucking pandemic is getting worse again. They're not feeling great about the economy and they're taking it out on the guy in charge at least temporarily. But i don't know what do you think. Am i missing something there. No you're not. I think we should just. I would put this in the worry about everything. Panic button. nothing category because fifty point six is his lowest but i think his highest was like when you get right past like the week after inauguration was like fifty three. He's been in a very narrow band the whole time. There's been a lot of attention on this morning. Console which showed this huge for biden but that poll had his approval rating at sixty two which was about. Was you know ten to eleven points higher than what his average was at the time. This is a pretty typical thing. That happens in media polling. Is you get this giant outlier. Makes things look rosier than they are and then it comes you get a normal poll and all those coverages like how did by lose ten points at a week as opposed to the reality is your poll was wrong. It works the other way too right. Where it's you get an outlier on the low side and then it's like comeback comeback kid because it's comes back to the average and but underneath the overall approval rating to your point. There are some troubling or at least troubling earliest concerning trance. Worth looking at it in a different political console poll there fifty nine percent of people blame biden's policies for inflation and the rising cost of things as opposed to just returning to forty one percent of democrats and so that that is like there was a lot of dismissing of inflation concerns political prisoners round inflation a few months ago. That seems to be pretty real politically at least and maybe inflation will come down as time goes on. We don't know but right now it's a problem and your point on. Covert related pessimism is the navigator research. Folks have a pull out this morning and they have this really interesting question where they ask. People is the worst of the pandemic ahead of us are behind us. And the number of people who think the worst of the peninsula's ahead of us has gone up double digits among all groups since their last poll and which also makes sense right. Like if you like if you were to like teleport yourself back a few weeks in read the press coverage it's like hot fact summer every returned to normalcy vacations birthday parties. People were baseball games and now things feel very different. Maybe some of that can pretty luke warm back summer right now right at best and warm. I don't know but getting colder you know it's a it's a fair question about whether people's strictly vaccinated people's concerns outstripped the reality of what they should be concerned about but that that concern israel could again. I think you know the the biden theory of the case since the beginning as been crushed the pandemic that helps revive the economy that puts people in a good mood. That is our best chance to govern and be successful in this administration and to potentially be reelected again in twenty twenty four. I think that is correct. Which is why go back to our original conversation that just getting more people vaccinated as many people as possible through whatever it takes persuasion requirements. Incentives carrot sticks. All of it is the most important thing to do for them right like that. It's it's the substantively most important thing to do the right thing to do but also the politically smart thing for them to do because if they can't fix the pandemic and they can't fix the economy than the whole rest of everything else goes to shit. Yeah that's exactly right so all right when we come back. I will talk to congressman mondale jones about the new eviction migratory. The pods in america is brought to you by the new york times. The new york times is committed to seeking the truth and helping people understand the world always black history. Month may only be one month of the year but the times believes exploring the present and future of black. 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A move the president biden said would cover up to ninety percent of renters. First term congressman. Monday jones of new york was one of the members protesting outside the capitol. He joins us now to talk about how we got here. And what happens next congressman. Welcome to the pod. Thanks for having me man it's it's a pleasure. I'm a big fan will thank you. We're we're happy to have you here of all of the disappointing votes decisions you've seen since you've been in washington. Why was this one so important for you to protest. It was so important to protest because as many as eleven million people stood to be evicted from their homes and many of those people in the words of congresswoman corey bush would have died whether from the delta variant or some other version of the cove in nineteen virus or from exposure to the elements or violence. And we're not just talking about parents talking about children in some instances infant and the entire time. The white house had the authority to issue. What ended up being a new more tori and of course congress should never have resist without holding a vote on this question why especially as someone who grew up in section eight housing himself. And who knows what. It's like to be housing insecure at people like cory bush in alexandria cossio. Cortez decide to take matters into our own. Ants through protests while i'm glad you did I think the question is what happens now. Right the new moratorium last until october third The courts could strike it down at any moment. It seemed like the supreme court had had given a single signal through brick cavanaugh. That they would if the administration did something like this So so what's the plan between now and october third to make sure we don't face this again. The plan is to disperse the approximately forty six point. Five billion dollars that congress has already allocated for this very purpose through legislation at the state level. I'm in new york. State and much has been said about our governor in recent months one of the challenges is that he has not disperse the order over two billion dollars and he's been sitting on a to people who urgently need rental assistance. So this isn't even a red state issue. Do you have any idea why that is. We have blue state governors sitting on a billions of dollars. This bureaucracy is this. I read a couple things about how some landlords were having trouble. Actually getting tenants to participate in the program. Because there's paperwork involved like is there any idea what the source of. This problem is here to be sure. There are ways that we can improve upon the process of getting relief both to tenants and to landlords right any one idea is Empowering landlords to go to a governmental agency and get those funds directly so that people who are housing insecure in facing a variety of issues including navy insufficient resources to be able to to navigate. This process. Don't have to be the one standing in the way of landlords being may all end and of securing housing for themselves that they are currently and i'm not gonna try to get into the mind of my governor but i can tell you that there's no excuse for In it's why i along with the rest of the new york. Congressional delegation signed a letter recently calling on the state to administer those phones at already been allocated by congress and now with respect to read state governor. I don't believe that government should be helping anybody right is there. Is there any plan there. Is this going to require. Legislation is their hopes that legislation we pass can the administration itself do more on its own. What is what are some of the options. Well one of the challenges is that even if congress specifically the house had passed legislation creating or imposing a new eviction moratorium. On friday of last week it would have died likely in the senate where all good things go to die which is why it was incumbent upon the white house do what it could on at least a temporary basis if the supreme court ultimately does strike down the moratorium but also i will just know that the filibuster is something that the white house could take a public position on and help us get rid of. And so you don't get to say like it's on you congress and then you remove yourself from the legislative process when it comes to stuff like this and voting rights But but not a bipartisan infrastructure. Package it all comes back to that. Damn filibuster doesn't it unfortunately You you pointed out that the pas on student loan collection will expire. On september thirtieth. What's your sense. On whether the biden administration will extend that. And how long do you think they should speaking to someone who along with people like chuck schumer elizabeth warren ilhan omar ianna presley On adams and others has said. Mr president you have clear authority under the higher education. Act to cancel federally owned student debt. Which accounts for the vast majority of student debt in this country in. You should use that authority to cancel up to fifty thousand dollars a student for every person who has We are in a situation where wages have been stagnant for literally decades even as the cost of a four year education. Higher education has skyrocketed. So i wanna. I want to just say that for context at a minimum. We should be extending the pause on the collection of on student debt as well as the accrual of interest which is the other thing that has been paused until such time as the pandemic is over. We know that the pandemic has exacerbated exacerbated problems that that pre existed the krona virus And it's why even the trump administration in fact it was the first administration to impose. Pause we've got to do better than trump restrictions. Would you make speaker pelosi saying a couple of days ago that she doesn't believe that biden has the executive authority to cancel up to fifty thousand dollars. That many of us myself included have been working on this issue for a long time including studying the issue of his legal authority in so was frustrated to to hear her opine. That way in my understanding is that Her staff has since brought to her attention. What legal scholars have been saying about this And i'll just leave that there but the fact is but the white house has already used the same authority that most recently to cancel Hundreds of millions of dollars in fraudulent debt The the authority that it use to pause the collection at that is going to expire on september. Thirtieth is the same authority from which derives the ability to cancel debt altogether. And i'm calling on the white house to make public the legal opinion that it said it would request within the department of education many many months ago on the on the subject of whether it has authority because i think the legal opinion will very clearly say that it has authority. Okay what will take for you to support. Both the bipartisan infrastructure. Deal and the budget reconciliation. Bill i have no problem with voting for a bipartisan infrastructure. Package so long as we had a larger reconciliation bill that meets the moment bad addresses the existential threat of climate change that expands medicare to include things like dental vision in hearing and that makes childcare affordable for literally every family this country. I have a bill with senator elizabeth warren call universal childcare early learning. At which would make childcare free for families making up to two hundred percent of the federal poverty lot. In addition to capping the annual cost of childcare for every family america at seven percent of household in as senator warren say famously during the dance convention childcare is infrastructure and so those are the things i'm looking at say i'm not gonna put a dollar amount on what the reconciliation package should be. I would love to be three point five trillion. In fact i'd like for it to be roger But but i don't wanna i don't wanna focus on a number as much as what the provisions of that. Bill must be in order to secure. My support for bipartisan infrastructure. Package in lab speaker pelosi agrees with now so if it comes over to the house at less than three point five trillion as it seems like it may listening to cinema mansion and others. You could still support it provided that it spends money on the priorities that you mentioned sufficiently and even senator manchin has not yet hopefully ran ever take issue with the three point five trillion dollar. Now you know. He hasn't drawn a line in the sand either which is Which is hopeful. Progressive caucus is a small but growing force in the house. Has what you all achieved this week. Change your thinking in any way about how. Progressives in congress can wield their influence to achieve policy victories i think prior to certain reforms that the progressive caucus undertook last year and also the reinforcements at people like myself inquiry bush in jamal boomer in towards another f- provided that there was not nearly as much of an appetite to to flex and now you've got a bunch of people who didn't come in the traditional way that politicians do corey. Bush was a black lives matter activist. I had never held elected office prior to making it to the united states. Congress and in fact ran against the machine and my primary We are not waiting to deliver real relief for the american people. And i think in fact i know that the policies we support our deeply popular so i think this was a huge boost. I think it was an example of how you can get these kinds of wins in the space of executive action quite easily. That's senator elizabeth. Warren has been master. Four door if you look at our approach and i also think that you're going to see people increasingly clamor for a vehicle to do this stuff. Legislative legislatively meaning phillips reform or abolition once infrastructure is over. Because everything else is gonna get blocked and we have to save our democracy so you you know if you listen you know that i yell about this all the time filibuster reform. Just just like you've been for the last couple of years and you know i am just. I find myself constantly disappointed. Because every time i think maybe there's a chance that the joe manchin might be willing to you know Propose some or you know. Accept some sort of reform or maybe do a carve out or maybe go back to forty one on the floor of this kind of stuff you know some reporter asam so many says no never. I'm not going to do this. Like you've been a proponent of filibuster reform of expanding the court all kinds of democratic reforms. That seem like they will not happen in this congress as long as people like joe manchin and curzon cinema are there. What's your thinking on sort of the ultimate path to these reforms. While i don't give up. Hope that senator is mentioned in cinema. Ken come around on this issue. But it's not going to be. In the absence of the president of the united states using his platform and the bully pulpit and frankly the resources available to him in negotiation In order to extract the concession of at least filibuster reform reform these two individuals who were standing in the way of democracy and it really is is stark and his dire is that i mean. This is the party of insurrection. These people don't want to certify presidential elections there. They feel as though they're very existence threatened by a-changing america. They will do whatever it takes. A mayor aided by the six three far-right majority on the supreme court as a majority that is hostile to democracy itself. We have got to pass the for the people act in order to stop these people Last question i'm wondering if you have any broader take away from the primary. In ohio this week between chantal brown and nina turner the progressive caucus in the house support. Anita turner Your colleague keith. Jeffries said to the new york times yesterday quote the majority of democratic voters recognize that trumpism and the radical right is the real enemy not us. Apparently the extreme left. Hasn't figured that out with your reaction to that. Well i don't know who the extreme left is. But i can tell you that. In the affluent majority white suburbs of new york city known as westchester counties crush my opponents ima democratic prime air including a state senator a state assembly member a self-funding billionaire Running as very clearly most progressive candidate in that race. Jamal beaumont won his race as the most progressive candidate also in a district that includes a significant portion of westchester county. I do not believe that. The loss of nina turner in ohio's eleventh was due to her being progressive. I think there was a lot of money being spent a lot of stuff That was said. Previously that was characterized in a certain way but we are seeing progressives win campaigns all across this country and of course when we pull progressive policies we that communities are very supportive of them including many republicans. Yeah no i. It is interesting that you continue to progressive policies. You see that they're more popular. Uc progressive policy victories. Like we saw this week And yet sometimes progressive candidates in sort of tougher primaries. Don't do as well minus What you're talking about with yourself than some of your colleagues. We sorta surprised at the congressional black caucus. Came in there. And back sean. Tell brown In congressman clyburn. What what was your sense of that. Congress member clever majority whip. Clyburn has been very open about why he got involved in. He said because of certain negative comments that were made by the campaign that lost in. So i don't. I don't want to exaggerate the or distort. The public narrative about white is that served members of the congressional. Black hawk is felt the need to get involved in the race. But look i mean. The black community is not monolithic. And there is a divide within the caucus. I'm a very active member of the caucus. And i'm proud to say that at my colleagues within the caucus likely even as we may disagree on certain policies we are overall quite unified in. Its why you saw people like myself. And i on presley and others endorsed nina turner and other members indoors shantelle brown and we as are still unified has caught yet so i view it as a family in when you're in the family not everybody gets. I'm excited to welcome shots brown to the united states. Congress for that matter congressman jones. Thank you so much for coming on pod. Save america come back soon. It was great talking to you. Thanks so much back pot. 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This story was specifically focused on concern over. The party's message. What is that concern. And do you agree with it. Well i i wanna just say kudos to sean patrick maloney and the digital say. This is the right thing to do right. I mean i was thinking about the happy talk doesn't get you anywhere just telling everyone like we're fine. We're going to win it's great. Yeah everyone in the party donors activists members need to be crystal clear about how steep hill. We have before us. And i was thinking back. Did you remember in two thousand and ten when our friend. And then what else. Presbytery robert gibbs. What on meet the press. And i think david gregory was hosted the time he asked him whether ask you were. There was a chance. Democrats could lose the house and he gives said yes. Which was patently obvious thing. It wasn't likely at the time in what you said about warning signs were everywhere. I mean unemployment was ten percent like it was pretty possible. Wasn't great and the house. Democrats went bananas on him. I think steny hoyer held a press conference. Just to attack robert gibbs for remember that it was brutal they were so mad at him and he was sure right gives love that. Yeah yeah yeah. It was very Contentious if you owe meetings robert in the legislative affairs team around that time like this is the right thing to do. People need to be aware of the challenge before us. And that's important. Now this specific messaging question In this story debbie dingle who is a congresswoman from michigan and one of the savviest members politically she Democratic operative for long time. The widow congressman john. Nichols you serve his seat. She said our message is not breaking through. And that's exactly right. That is what's happening. We've talked with us before. I think this is a megaphone problem. That a message problem. It's like people it's other. Were saying the wrong things is that people are not hearing them because we do not have the apparatus to get to them. There is some good news on this. There was a report last week. I think that democratic groups were going to spend a hundred million dollars in the during the month of august on messaging. Around the bipartisan infrastructure. Deal and the and the jobs and family plan to communicate to voters about it and so there is. There are some cavalry coming But yeah people have ever right to be concerned. It is seem somewhat patently obvious that if the election were held today we will lose the house because for i think about it this way. If joe biden's fifty point six which is a very respectable and good at providing present it. What are we in. That's a national poll that includes california new york etc. What do we think. His approval rating is in districts that either trump won or biden did less well than his national numbers and we know that generic democrats underperformed bided in these districts. And so this is obvious but it's important to say exactly what needs to be aware of the work ahead of us. I do agree that we're not breaking through with our message. I sort of always agree with that. It's very hard to break through the message. We've talked about that a million times. I i sort of wonder if it's more of an economy problem. General mood problem than it is a message problem and i wondered that because of a couple of things from this polling you know they said that both the american rescue plan in the american jobs plan in this pulling are incredibly popular. Incredibly popular with swing voters in battleground districts. Right not just like base. Democrats people love these plans and yet only forty two percent of the people in this in these polls Battleground voters trust democrats on the economy. And so and they also. Debbie dingle said that when she goes home to michigan in her in her district people. The democrats aren't doing enough to boost the economy so clearly. It seems like there is some financial concerns around the country. Economic concerns around the country and people don't feel the economy is where it should be and they don't see democrats doing enough to fix it now. Partly that can be solved by you know better. Messaging and spending a lot of money delivering that message to voters and saying look. We are doing a lot to help you. Here's what we're here's what we've already passed. And here's what we're fighting for now. I think that's That's a necessity. But i wonder if it truly get until the economy gets fixed and things are going well when people say. Oh yeah now. I feel like i'm doing better in my own life and i'm looking around the economy and things are good. I don't know i mean. Joe biden mailed a thousand dollar check to tens of millions of people in it didn't affect his approval rating down that does speak to the limits of white can. What else are they going to do that. It's more popular like the stuff in the or more impactful to people's lives. No i guess. What i'm saying is like until inflation comes in until until people say okay. Inflation really isn't a long term problem. it was temporary. It's coming down and now i'm in a better mood. Like i think that you know one thing you keep seeing in these polls in focus groups to is people just keep mentioning the inflation issue. And they're saying yeah maybe he gave me a thousand dollar check but now prices are rising. So what the fuck i. Which is biden has very little control over almost enough. Yeah no that's that's the challenge always economy. The president gets all the blame all the credit and has only limited influence on what actually happens. I mean i remember us like watching like bank. Default rates in greece being a really relevant reelection factor. Remember so you have a couple of choices here. I think we cannot leave this topic of keeping the house without pointing out that all of the messaging billions of dollars in ads would be less impactful than passing a one page bill in the senate that band partisan gerrymandering. That's the biggest problem and this is not the usual. Seems fall trump. after moe's fall. That's joe manchin cures cinemas cinemascope because everyone else's for that they pass that. But that is we that would if you had a choice between one hundred billion dollars in democratic ads between now and november or passing the one page ban on partisan gerrymandering about what would help us the most and keeping the house. It would definitely be gerrymandering been. I completely agree with that though. I was sort of thinking about it from the other perspective which is na world. i don't want people to think that the reason that the houses in jeopardy is only because of republican gerrymandering even. That's the biggest reason that if there were no gerrymandering we would still pose like this where the democratic challenger or the democrat is six points behind a republican in a battleground district. We have other problems to fix. So i don't want people just thinking like our messages perfect enough. All if only we just passed independent redistricting commissions. Everything would be great. Yeah we should. We should under independent redistricting commissions and eliminate ten republican states in california as one possible. Fuck which i think you can actually about initiative but you get my point but yeah it. The other thing is not to be overly dark about this but this is a poll of juryman districts. We don't even know how you're the that's what i'm saying. This is the best case scenario people. We got a lot of problems. We got a lot of problems but the other thing the other messaging question here is this will lead us into our next topic is should we spend money and time and energy advertising. What democrats have done to make your life better or should we spend time and energy advertising. What republicans would do to make it worse. Great segue great segue so in an effort to be constructive. Instead of just us worrying out loud we conducted a poll with our friends at data for progress where we asked people how they felt about a of shit. Republicans have done over the last few years here was the list striking down. Sections of the voting rights act and making it harder to vote packing the judiciary with right wing judges cutting taxes for the rich blocking action on climate. Change trying to build a border wall supporting trump. Repeating the big lie voting. To overturn the two thousand twenty election and encouraging violent protests at the us capitol on january. Six here the top five things that people disapprove of the most from that poll number one inciting insurrection. Seventy percent comforting comforting. That's number one number. Two tax cuts for the rich fifty eight percent disapproval number. Three attacking voting rights fifty-seven percent disapproval number four climate. The nihilism fifty five percent approval and number five spreading the big lie fifty four percent. This approval Would you think about those results. And is there a message somewhere in there because was a lot of different things but i think this poll proves is that there is a huge opportunity to brand the republicans in a negative light for voters. Generic republican is not the annual around the neck of the republicans on the ballot that it can be and should be and. I don't think this paul yet answers the question of exactly what that should be. But it is very clear to me from looking at this and i recognize that i am doing the thing. I look at poland usa to confirm all of my prior opinions. But that it. It shows that it's so strange that there is people do not like republicans people would like republicans even less the more they knew about them and they don't know nothing republicans and so you think there is like definitely there are lots of opportunities there. I think what this shows that there is. There could be real benefit in a message that paints republicans dramatically out of the mainstream. That's what a lot of this is right so these are radical republicans. Exactly the work we would use of big lie. Don't believe in the science around climate change. Hang out people like mercury taylor. Green and matt gaetz. There's that is one Narrative about the party. That would i think. Have some impact with voters particularly voters. Who voted for biden at the top of the ticket and a republican congressional senate level that they could be persuaded. This party is a lot more trump like than they thought. Yes i should have said. There were two things on that list. That i left out. Which was we also tested. Matt gaetz is scandal and marjorie taylor. Greens comparisons of the house mask mandate to the holocaust and of course the disapproval for. Both of those was off the charts. But i didn't include it. Because i seriously doubt that. A democrat running against a republican in some far flung district is going to somehow successfully tie. Vat specific republican to what matt gaetz or marjorie taylor. Green did you can. Of course call them out for not calling out matt or condemning that gates and merger taylor green right you can say you're part of this party you didn't say i think that's fine. You can do that. But i doubt that. Sort of a a larger strategy available to the party to just pick out to scandals and make a bigger thing about it can i. Can i just push back. Sure yeah do you think the republican strategy of pudding. Afc ilhan omar which is obviously incredibly misogynistic and racist approach or in using nancy pelosi for decades as the face of the democratic party. That do you think that worked for them and if it did work for them why wouldn't it work for us. Don't think there's a ton of evidence that that worked for them. I think that they were. I think so in two thousand eighteen. They did this a lot and it certainly didn't work for them in two thousand eighteen. Obviously in twenty twenty. They did much better in the house than we thought they would. I think there may have been success. At there may have been some some success framing the democratic party as more liberal or potentially more radical as a party than it standard-bearer joe biden. I don't know that specific attacks on illinois omar sort of translated to some of these districts. I think some of the policy positions could have The you know some of the policy positions that some democrats are some activists staked out could have worked for republicans. But i think the people themselves are. It's a little bit. I just think like you know a voter. You're it's it's It's joe. Smith versus sally in your in just has nothing to do with martin retailer greenback gates and you spend a whole campaign saying oh but but but they're going to be in the same party as this person who did x. like i don't know that it works as well on either side democrat or republican. I agree that. I certainly think the individual people are they are. It's a little of what was the more important part. Was it radical socialist defunding the police or in pelosi case over the years hollywood liberal in republicans should be very clear it works more with their vendors because there are weaponising race and gender and that is an effective tactic for them with a lot of their voters. We saw that with hillary clinton Bomb i agree with that. But there are like i think there's a nuance to maybe like having some avatars for that radicalism. If not like saying like if not saying q. wapiti or party of q. I think that that sells the voter shortage. Retreats them as idiots which is never a good political strategy in our opinion but there is some sense of like like having some people who get a lot of press attention to who are kind of scary to voters we want is not the worst thing. Think that's right. But i think i think where we probably agree is branding republicans in general as extremists. And there's a lot of supporting evidence for that is going to be effective and i think that does span the gamut from Everything that happened around the twenty twenty election. The insurrection overturning. The results the big lie to climate change. Denial ism you know continuing to support tax cuts for the richest american is. The middle class is falling behind right. Like i think that's what we're seeing. This poll is that when republicans have staked out more extremist positions. People were more likely to disapprove of them which is not like fucking lightning bolts. Like not the biggest revelation. But it's worth remembering. And i also think it's worth noting that it was not in that trump that top five is supporting donald trump which i thought was kind of interesting and yet the big lie. Supporting the insurrection attacking voting rights. That was those. Were all in the top five. So i do think it is. It might attempting shorthand to say and we do this all the time. These are trump republicans just like trump. it's a clone of trump. I think you have to go a little bit further and say why they're like trump what positions they hold their like trump. What they have said and done that is like trump and not. Just say not. Just expect people to believe that every republican is like trump supporting trump is automatically disqualifying. Unfortunately trump is such a unique figure in terms of personality and presence and just like overt stupidity that it is sometimes hard to. It really is hard like you have some relatively generic college republican fox news green room lunatic running for congress somewhere and it sort of. They don't see mike. Donald trump he is just as figure with this long history and presence but trump ism right. And you don't have to call trumpism but the ideas that lie at the heart of it that predate trump are think. How can i still think we didn't really test this. In this poll there are some choices between crazy and corporatists that. I don't know when the right answer to that. Is i think in the long run. The number one goal democratic party should be separating republicans from their working class base because especially if we have reasonably that working class base is becoming more diverse. if it's they're making gains with Working class black and latino voters that is the. That's the end of the game. So we gotta stop that trend in this poll. We've looked at these disapproval ratings as sort of in the aggregate and i wonder if there are some things republicans have done like continue to push for tax cuts for the rich that working class voters white black and brown disapprove of more van perhaps upper income voters and then i do think there are voters in the suburbs college educated voters who may have been you know george bush republicans mitt romney republicans and now they voted for joe biden for the first time and they might care more about republicans Inciting insurrection spreading the big lie. Trying to overturn the election so it could be different messages work for different demographic groups that we need and the democrat coalition. I do think we have to pick one of the two. And i think one of the lessons of politics in this sort of interconnected social media age is the particularly given our media infrastructure deficit democrats is. We need one narrative republicans. And i think the internet can be like you can look at the map and say we're better off Do these is attractive for people or dissuade different people and you can sort of. I don't know the answer to which is the right one to keep the house or to re lecture biden twenty twenty four or whatever that is but like you want everyone saying the same thing about republicans became gives additional throw rebrand the message because every republican runs on the same message democrats and that is worked to define the democratic brand in our problems and we tend to run your districts away from the party or you know run more specific campaigns about specific republicans. It's like we need one narrative for them and then everyone should say it all the time and this is one situations where the only wrong choice in my opinion is no choice. Send us your narratives. Obviously the best narratives are crowd sourced on social media. Yes you know what actually go through your twitter timeline. 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S2E9: The Shawn Harvey Morning Show - Live 2020-09-03 11:25

The Shawn Harvey Morning Show Podcast

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S2E9: The Shawn Harvey Morning Show - Live 2020-09-03 11:25

"They did. The head. I. On the. Planet. I'm? Be Paid. Hanging. With that. We're back. IT IS A. Throwback. Thursday Thursday. September the Third Twenty Twenty twenty six minutes after I work back Shaw one show featuring cj law co host Cologne where you get you started, right. Only place on Earth where you get your morning started, right Where you get you more love chat rooms wide open please show each other some love. Or if you dare call in the numbers five, seven, zero, nine, eight, two, six, nine, five, zero iheartradio radio DOT? COM COMEDY RADIO FAM- radio DESHA MONEY SHOW DOT COM or podcast platforms in all my facebook La Barbie Cologne. Good to see you to be seen sean skin still looking good bobby blessed Lord. Okay welcome back. Here, in Bethlehem guys we broadcast live to you. It is is seventy two degrees. The highest going to be eighty two today partly cloudy with the possibility of rain showers through the day. On and off throughout the day in Strasbourg seventy degrees eighty four for the high partly cloudy impossibility of rain. Also seventy three in Newark new. Jersey Ninety four high and partly sunny right now. But the rain may come in and a New York City seventy five degrees eighty eight for the high partly cloudy with the possibility of rain in Atlanta at seventy three degrees, it's going to be ninety, three, forty high. It's going to be as great sunny day in Chicago six eight right now eight four for the high clear and sunny in Miami eighty four degrees right now, the highest going to be ninety cloudy. With the possibility of. Rain showers and in Los Angeles Sixty, four degrees eighty four fourth high in a beautiful sunny day as well. That's what I have for. You are what like where you are. Coming to you live from the show heavy morning show features Sidney J. we'll. You can tim on and stuff. Started, right on a throwback Thursday, we are going to shout the broom out before shout the room I'm going to have a homegirl. She's going to call them tomorrow and Nina dockings our friend Nina. I'm doing a big concert showdown in Trenton New Jersey Saturday ladies. Outside again, right CJ, my comedy career in Trenton. All trend is right there. I. Feel like it's ours right and it's not that well as a little bit over an hour maybe an hour but city. I'm back to my. Teeth Picnic of the. Year. Snap Barbecues. Lot. Of Backyard comedy. A Lotta, performing and grass. Just yet you sprain your people are sitting in picnic tables looking at you. Really Weird but we gotta we gotTa do comedian. And City, this is a paid event. How well yeah. So. There you go. So we. Out There People WanNA laugh congregate. Before we was that we was in Queens a month ago we was at your college the parking lot right it was a hundred and fifty cars out there. And we will perform on stage. And it was cars and anytime I told a joke and if the joke was funny people beat the Horn I remember that I think grand show until the job think it was funny I think that's a fun. For me I would be beeping my horn the whole time. Also. Can? Please can I get? Blah Blah Blah, and then the punch not come and you hear warns yeah. So but you gotTA stop. Awards the Stop. Start again. And then the last time you. Did a backyard that night that we were supposed to mean was in Jersey right. Newark and I was in the was over the next town in Hillside. Right and the lady had her whole backyard hooked up. Right they had cheers out there. They have the social distancing. They did they have to social distancing and they have a they had this whole out in the grass right with the microphone. Yeah and then next to their house they have some Latino folks and they had they had their own party over there right? So. You hear Latin music part of the yard and we had our House Music Jersey and the other part right and everybody was getting down right people kind of get back outside a little bit and then that's when I met you in Newark New Downtown Newark Yeah and you walked out of their city was a Sean I gotta get out of here many people. They're not social distancing us you crazy we in they never social distancing talking about. Down there that place was packed out there and everybody was outside they were outside but they were all together like that is what? You. Didn't have to sit in the crowd. You know hang hung out on the side of the bill wanted to sit down I hit that and now. Maybe a trip in new. Jersey Saturday I'll give the inflammation more Nina's they'll call in Sydney J. we'll be back outside again the I'm actually getting use to tell jokes outside. When you're inside and you'll be like, I don't know if I like this. Already telling jokes with the outside experiences new to me right. Outside performance nobody really does comedy. That well, the out the backyard thing. Yes. But not as many backyard joints. Backyard. Got Something to do before we go to the show. Yard join at four o'clock, and then we'll head onto the main show right now the backyard shows are the main show. That's where my memory is coming right now. Don't worry. It'll turn around next year back pop. Includes look forward to doing backyard. Back then I try to do is show out here Jacob, do a show Jacob. Backyard out here and I try to do a show right here in town and Babylonia shut all that down. They don't even want the outside parking lot and then what nothing We still gotTA. pobably. Wait. Till next year. So. because. To do in the wintertime backyard stuff like a starting to get chilly. Nobody's talked to nobody. There's no. There's COMEDIANS. Get Together, talk about Ya'll just riding. This wave right we all they back to be live. We now we. Just have to Grub Hubbard all winner or. Deliver food. You guys put a one in the chat room if you're still going outside in this wintertime and restaurants too right now at twenty five percent capacity, but they're really getting this outdoor seating, but once it gets hometown. Want to be out there. Doing comedy. Is in Las Vegas some of my friends out there. Sean, you have to go down to like hot spot but. Hotspots literally. Right would they be? Vegas I think they're doing comedy out there because my friends they all my co workers they are going out there doing comedy I think it's just. Against Chicago, there's a few Florida is a few cities. That's. His Co workers. Guys are. y'All just. In congregate together actually. So so Texas out. Bobby. I am now officially a back yard comedian. Comedian to come through CON showing why you out there grilling. Holidays, support. Not only that city I got my own speaker this speaker right here. Peruse bigger. Vixen boy a little got. Slashed as well. Or is still the same price. I'd just. Tell. You about that it's corona. So you let me tell you something this time. That's why you raised. This time last year like I. was really like acting like don't. Have somebody like it was just like, oh. We had this amount. Off. Book that they can. Can you change the time of the show? Last. Got Seventy Palo Alto. To Call Me I. was like this I'll take. This unhappy. Well. That's good shots. A. Out there that's working like me in like you said, right in the restaurant industry. about to get real over here in the. With time is coming I. Think they're gonNA shut it down again no United States shut it down, but they'll just keep everything twenty-five percent capacity. In this part of the country. So, anyway listen. Cindy we might do we live. We might do a comedy show like in this building somewhere. I'm doing something, Sam? Mike. Sampson these jokes. I have nothing to do with that, Chris. Before we shall see. Bill, shout out to Chris Chris. Rock opticians. This city Abby Pierre. Thank you, Kike and. The culture shock over person like me Barbie Cologne guys know. Like I, travel all used to. Travel all the time, right? Yes. Cine like I'm home on Friday nights raise Saturday I. saw on a Friday night etiquette in the bag. You, want some of what's. A Family. Rangel, some family meant. To call you back. Those does. I usually come home in the middle young guys no one o'clock in the morning and come home. In the Goodfellas when they came home late him and his bad and the mother-in-law in the WHO? I told. You. Know. Know. I didn't put it and. Say I. Don't remember. Everybody. Good is the one urban superstar movie that we love that Blackhawks Lung. Goodfellas. WHO's that Guy I remember? G. At he got married when he kept his, he's against right He. Lived with his mother in law I don't remember in the House and they came back from the Copa Cabana and the symbols up. And he dropped them up and. Soon. As he opened up, the mother-in-law opened would've wanted to chat room if you'll know what I'm talking about. I practice set knows what you're calling about. All the movies to exactly what she's the buffalo who? She liked Bob and then he walks away back to the car because the other guy was still in the car right and other guys. Joe Pez. He goes like this debts. Right Lou. Ellen car. O. I. It was the day after the wedding or something had just got married. I think I remember that line. POUT. Right. So city. On Everybody's putting a one. I remember too but if they make. That was me. It's not now not no better nine o'clock. And Hyatt. Do. Yes Yes. Mike. The? Do Your King talent call me last night the world the hilarious character was good nothing doing nothing. All right goodbye. Go. Night at the stress him. Capone. So go live so much on instagram in my life. Maybe. Album Greg Sean. Right I guess this is your life. This is Shawn by. Joke online you. Love Zoom didn't like it. I didn't hear nobody lab of talking on the phone like pets wave. Now Sean do a little skit or something a mission to escape. That'll be funny might. Actor. For you. To Barbara's. GO I. Smell me I'm. Filming. Anything. Any. Guerrilla anyway. So yes. So and put your comedy and make. The front. Disciple. I missed performance because you're old school you just WanNa do it hey I'm live perform like the do like entire time twin do gotta people around him he dancing. Dancing doesn't go well on zoom times are changing. that. You that young Spirit Sean. Cine. Back out there. These streets. Saturday night at home city. Making been home since March. On a Saturday. I'm sorry. Is this person? When it's you it's Sean. No Middle Name Harvey. Right. To give you a middle name. I have. No neither. Barbie. You don't have a middle name. Know what? Everybody has got one set mate. I. Guess they ran out. The Spanish thing because all my Spanish friends, none of them have middle names. Know. Fourteen. What are you? Have, a lot of last names. Get some middle names to work on that. Don't worry about it but barbeque alone. Name would. It's not even necessarily had. As without. Total way stop back like do you use it anyway? Exactly like no, we were shout room CJ. City wishing middle name. Yes me you asked me. Does sound like a porn star day. She don't have on system. Who Annetta? Josh mean. Yes me yes. We ought. To get out to guys can I? Mean hot. Lane I don't know where it came from mom says you say The show gave me middle. Name remember. was. It. Was We have to have your mom pick one. We never got that far think bumbler name is Keith. The show gave me A. Okay. Obviously. Put this Cox in Chat, right? Yes. We need to see these harsh right. Now we want to show you guys so much love on a throwback Thursday only place on Earth where you get your morning starting right let's get your thoughts about. That granny. Santiago shepherd into building. Why I didn't care while they're young maybe she was in. The bill that is in the building in the world thing this young billy. Young it's here and he said, his middle. Name is David. Gregory David Noah Hey David I like does anybody call you by that? COME ON TO I. I know you can't trust the guy with two first name's. David, his last name was his like his name like that's dope like Gregory Davis sound like a great stage name. Yeah Gregory. Davis. I like that stage right now. Kary Davis. That's underway. Right. David David Yeah Gregory. Same thing. I I like that it'd be like a nice handbag to. Gregory's evening right. Get you a gregory. David collection the Gregory David Collection. Yes. Wow Dago okay. It'd be young enough already. Oh Boy Down Canal to pick up bags and put David on. Canal Street to the African. Seventy bags and put get. Stanton Wani's bags. But David. Hale he says. I know I know his last name. Put. Out there really governments out there. That's true. I think let's get rid of the up the hill. Let's get rid. Gregory. Around. Say Give it a hill bobby. This does out Gregory. David? Young Nut And now at power forward. The Query? David. Oh. Let the lead rebounds seven hundred. Hours. Yogurt. Though. Right. Right. Show Rena. Hey Girl Hey Marie. Chapel. Chat. Chat Room. Hey. Let's go. Hey We're. Hard turn. Hey That would. Hey. Wait a heart set. Pay. Hey what hey. Hey. Hey. Hey whoa hey. Hey. What multi? billion. Chat Room. Chapman. In the chat group. Chat. Hey. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait a heart set. Hey. Heart set with. What? Hey. y'All. Could we David. S Your new. Name. That younger nut from I know where's that? Borderland pause. Young. You could say. Oh goodness. We. Not Do this Oh my God. John Tell you why we say good morning to where we have. Good Morning Good morning in the wife. What's her name again? Yeah. The Christmas party had to fly shoes on deck and his wife was looking absolutely beautiful for rail. They both walk the nail winning winning. We walked in there winning oh they didn't look. Came in looking like a bag of money and what happened inside you had like A. Did you ever recorder with you? That was missing witness son and his wife like a piano. Right had to fly shoes on the. Piano. Yeah. You never. Right. Just started. asking. Hey girl. Kate to solve to my lovely wife, Neda. Are you on that treadmill the. Keep it going at brother keep that same energy. With that. Yet, one day thing. He's on his bike now. Right he's A. Gentleman Nomo cycle just get active everyone. Bob. Some not talk the. After show yesterday. To Boban Soda and Bob said. A beautiful things about the Sondhi. And Just a matter of fact, if you still in a chat room yeah, we bob loves you brother. I would hope. Never Hey. Mambo another Nina I. Keep his wife's name Atra. Oh. Say. Not like you. Has Hey. Where is Christmas. The comedy job. Nikki grid is in the building to what should hey. Good. Morning. George Henry is here. Hey Benita. Ferrero Tanya is in the building what up growing sir. Francis Cashbox. Hey Baby. stumpings any. Morning. Good, morning Mr. K's finest original I chat room member live. The Fella that put that first black hard out there. And Stanley. We say becase finding scientists. Really about listening which you GotTa. Be. Extra to. Show is he hate dre only million into building he hates that keeps so hard coming here by. Twain Hey, how you doing buddy? Whatever? Derek. Here. Hey. K. Wearing the buildings Angel Johnson are you new school? She's Noodle Vegas I noticed which. Works with. Chris do okay with comedy. Worldnet rail. She's down with the team with Haggar own in the morning. The beautiful. Shepherdess in the Shut up to Wanda she said her middle name is wandel vet Y-. She said something about this hospice, it'd be mixing names. Somebody was wander somebody named Yvette Bam Wanda better. Better wonder man I know one thing. Name but I know she's from the be next be be be name your mental name Santiago you're like you did it Kim Kardashian West, Wanda Wanda's Santiago Shepherd. that. Tanya, not getting married that her last name is out the door that's going to be a harvey we already discussed has been taken my last name he's going to he's going to be calling Wright period. If I. Wanted to do the whole city. Jacob Hyphen Baba Law I'm a traditional school. Wando, that I a actually the lovely tiny get rid of all of that. She said, not got you. It'd be Tanya harvest great sitting. Are you ready to go that Jacob naming a garbage. Can. Really. I Remember Body She's like Oh hail. Wow. Have a great memory. I Remember I said that I think that a man should be okay to take a woman's last name. My thing. You can back to like the man can take your last night but I'm just saying you said, if you ever get married again, you're keeping your name the Jacob. And then go on the husband's name and I'm like normal traditionalists you got to get rid of the whole thing and take my name I don't know. It, how do you feel about it now sending? I don't know you feel open to change that. I am I've always been open to taking the last name. Well, you've been first of all you've been open lately. talked. Open the that-that Jacob get that out of it. Open to them. Look at me. So much growth. Always. That men should be okay with taking. My. Evolved into something else. But you also said you was getting rid of that Jacob? Dane. Backpedal just sending you are. Really you say K. L. Would you take my last name though you have to take his last name? Is He in the chat? Room? You like I said a school. I know you'll get managed care. Ways if you get married like Joe. Like all you women Charoen got your. your best, the the Shaun Brown novel, My Name half-naked. Youtube. Continual to. Sin Kit rid it give her that Jacob. Go. No No. No. No No. Get rid of that. Hey. Hey Hey. Get rid of that Jacob it's Iraq. Walls she got. I out think he approve that baby sitting. Men with the men here. In the building. Shot He Johnson is here he shot he. Might. Shell. Shampoo. is in the building what's up Joe keeps his baby mother Matte all the time because when he pick up kids, he's fresh to death and he's smiling face and the kids looking good and that baby mother Hayden God bless that baby mother keep hating on shelves. Shit whatever showing Jacqueline people in the building Jacqueline. Lease got what's up I'm glad the kid is not giving you hard timely the way to go. We. Can All y'all agreeing with me he said that I have to I his last night. And you know what he ain't. was. Going on. This I'm old school. Okay. Even though I'm fifty five or still got that young spirit but I'm a traditionalist. I get it. LADIES YOU WANNA. Keep the last name but the problem with that is especially if the woman has fifteen sixteen or hundred. Might? Be. An. Excellent. By Bill Collector. You won't you won't. You just love my business out right shocking wants to show city party. Good Morning. How are you? Okay Good Morning who's this? This is Angel Johnson in Vegas Hey. Good Morning. Holy. Places. And I love the Song Brown Oliver you know that that should best the but the the example that I have for that is when women that has a lot of members in her family singer. That have the last name, right? Like gaulan thousand. Wow. You holding more to that name. I could see if the woman she was the only one. With that last name and that name is done. Okay let's keep. that. When this twenty five, thousand Williams. Let's computer that name and you take your husband's name. Got Angel Good. Morning, how are you? Good I only call Jim because I had something to say about the last name though. my last night. My husband's last name Patterson and I am Patterson and I am one hundred percent for having his last name and I do go by Angel Patterson but here's the thing I'm a business woman and before marrying Mr. Paterson I was Angel Johnson and so. A lot of my business things were Angel Johnson a lot of things, Angel Johnson. A lot of paperwork is Angel Johnson and a lot of my whole world and everything else is angel. Johnson. So I don't necessarily hyphenate Angel Johnson, and for the most part everybody knows I'm Angel Patterson and you know. So sometimes I'm both I'm Angel Johnson you know in my business world but you know everybody else. Privately and for the most part and you know kids at school and Mom and Dad and family I'm Angel Patterson. And my private life for the you know for the rest of the world but as far as business goals and website and like then you know. Everywhere else Nuoro Angel Johnson is who world knows and it's easier for me to just be you know Angel Johnson then running around changing you know my head anything right in the whole world and everything else and stuff like that well, and he doesn't have a problem with which is the most important thing in the world you know as far as I'm concerned if me and Mr Patterson okay. Then that's try they don't call him Mister Johnson You know as far as role concerned. You know I really don't care what they think or say or do or believe as long as me and Mr Pants in. Cool. That's the way we go. Up some names. Okay. Obviously, some women names are branded or they have a business tots. ME. Now. I. Get that. And there's nothing wrong with that. When you get married, you got like on her. Step up and get that to keep that name or you change your name but I mean, yes, in the business sense of cool. That's fine. But if you're not in no business. If, you don't if your name's not branded or you don't have a Business Barbie. Thousand Patterson's. We could get rid of that but I was sure I'm saying age you thank you so much for. Thank you for calling angel. You're very well have a grey day walks to. Marcus? Mr One emoji Johnson in the building. and. Day John Cochran is here Hey John Member Angel said I'll call her. Thank you for calling in Kareem Lewis is in the building what up rainiest my maze means young NAT is here was some younger note David gave. Gary Goodwin it's in the building. That's my man. He's the new in the room. Is Asia new. We grew up together we went to church together. Blessing. He say he stayed in Church and I left. I went out stop smoking weed. Is, that in the nephew found another higher conscious. Ness Arana's hey good morning I don't care what type of weed you young folks smoking. Now, the we that we had in the seventies don't compare to which you think you smoking and getting high with now people in that chat room that Rockwood me when we was we. Put a number one did when we used to get. Off A we this week that your smoking right now is pure garbage what? The that smoke in the seventies continual. wiz closed today what We. The seventies is garbage what they're saying. Born city Jay and that we'd was we don't fees didn't want to smoke our we'd. Notion. Got Now showing different I don't know not what we. Know we had that dust that bulldog twenty twenty. That was crazy. What? Right. Now I WANNA know. We got gas now. Let's call gauge. Is A conversation I cannot partake in because I have no idea what Barbie Cologne. You have my condolences. This is a woman everyone before we take a call. Never smoked before. It was not only. On the. Barbie. Twice on board with the State of Pennsylvania has damned Because of my severe arthritis in my knees. The state of Pennsylvania gave it. Gave me a medical marijuana card. We know. He does. Not even shoe place. You hold on a second particles on. I was strongly suggest that. We go over to the dispensary. Doubts step call. I get you a pill. Until all you choose some of the week. and. Maybe you might. WanNa. Get A peppermint. Shaw Morning Show City Bobby Ideas. Can't do without this lady. Short I can believe to invite friends need to the To the last name Angel Johnson I. Thank Her for saying what she said that's all I was trying to say. When it came up the first time. Yeah, no, you had me separated from my husband Danny speaking speaking now I just went I wanted to have my name because that's what I go by always went by and not changing all the paperwork and not doing all of that also wanted to say Good Morning Good Morning. His mind. Listening to Sydney when she talks about my kyle. 'CAUSE IDOL study body language, but I could feed. She has this southern drawl when she says his name. My Theory and Shaking. I'm like four she. She got it going on. This nothing it's nothing wrong with that. Not at all. Beginning now I'm rooting. I'm here we'RE GONNA. Go on this journey together. But. Like all relationships even with my own CJ Darrow Barbecue Went there would be a point where the honeymoon is over I'm sure. And you. You go to the next phase. I'm happy to see me in her romantic bliss. Via. Now and we. Know that. WE'VE NO WEST So we But But like all of us. Including yourself including. Boy that honeymoon boys you go into face to. Buyers everybody's fought in that night now. It's going to be at least a year. I can find. I SWEAR To go to work I'm this remote. But I try to I try to sit down and in doing because you've got slate. Gray and Barbie. Defeat. John Yet. I. Haven't seen a foot massage. Seen. Facie, check it out but my feet and get my love what massage. Damn. Yeah. We. Cine. Yet. To face just just he said you monitoring. Just for just. I can't my body will not let me. Physically. Be She got to be extremely comfortable. Barbeque. I am comfortable. I can't do it because I. That's a personal thing like even my kids in the house they fired stuff. I'm like, why don't you just go to the bathroom like only plenty of Lazy People. Want to go to the bathroom but what I'm saying is fire. A. Tiny. For Sixteen months? Low this woman to death. We thought we fought on a regular now. In the bed we just whatever is what it is. Just. Go like this. Plus. Cine does and that will show. I said the next time I mean fire it's. The he's. Letting. So wait a minute wait a minute. He's already fought in front of you. Yeah. So city, let it go. Decision. He's already he's already. Baby. Was the toyopet. Chat with your bathroom like Hey Sydney. Disco. Next time you see this young man God, bless them in you. Just. Don't want this. I'll. Try. Smith and the building hey. The Smith thank you for tuning in. We appreciate you watching. 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So what's up raw but necessary is in the building. Harlem Henley is ear hey. Handy. This show of Oliver. Hey Best Debu good morning girl. Sean Brown album discussion for she says, she had like a hundred and fifty browns in our house. Family, it's going to continue. Morita chocolate. Thunder Simmons's here Hey Marina Gumma one in a chat room. Right DJ Bellamy. Inhale. Home in the head role. Do this show without. Back. To the show today, we're GONNA do the show. He's so important to this show that sitting where he comes in as one. Walk out and give. Happy Anniversary Diane. Anniversary thirty second. Class Yeah. That's great work. Today, and that's black love for real. Thirty two years mark never had another baby mother on the side no kids. Everything. In the building what up their behavioral Nathan You Jones is. Joseph Cards dealt with in the bill would up. Kareem Williams here. Hey Corinne Joe Byrd S. in the building Sept- Joe. D Your mother read is here, Hey. Hey Read de Ray. Rare Mr Sensational Holler, is in the building and safe lightly rail w M. Dixon. Hey cousin good morning. going. At. floss. Tamp Oh yeah. Don't overdo. He's been single may Zeman man he's been out there winning calm down. For a lady Ralph Bobby Knight. Guys. Like. One little thing, and it's like I want to go on a run for like a year. And then they're gonNA try and settle down just get back on the horse route. We go back out there and look for your queen. That's why I've been at horse you gotta go they support me ain't. Nobody is running through. I will say. I can't be by well could be bombed himself. I can't be by myself so. Well Yeah. You can't be basic. Like things. Like that. He doesn't look if nothing. Better they're very mathis is here good morning to burn Hilda Renna dozier is in the building up. No, she's being. Hill, please live long not a Lotta hilts out now now that's not. Pop, into seventy. He'll the live long please. Meta Helda where you've met one now? Yeah. 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My mind I'm doing laundry right now and I'm mad that you can't get dry the clothes. Woody me. You know when you wash them in your house and did take them to around you back to drive all year Dan you gotta do everything right now yet I thought I thought that was lose the purpose of. Take thirty close a washroom and then dry. Dry. Bridge I've done. My Mess. US what mass of. Dry it I wanted to dry. You wanted to go to the laundromat to pay to dry your mask and the dry you washed. Away. took. Over the the cardboard. I'd. Fogel back to the. Safari. That folks do they wash their clothes at home and take wet clothes? Dryers are broken get they don't have their whenever rum. So to save money time, they will wash it at home I. Evan Take the clothes to the LAUNDROMAT drive down. That sounds totally ridiculous. That's. Cool Man. In the city in between. And I know. People that are currently image. That would be you. appropriate. Between the city. You. Close out. Take in the. Saying is depending on the day seen. Well, that's what I what I've been doing like my sheets and stuff. Am I look my blankets I'll lost. Sight. But not. Your and there's a lot of people out his early twelve three the real Lao Renault. Right. Right. But hold on that went through. They'll go back to the break was back to the laundry thing. I Hate You Sydney. Why? The, the wash it works, but the dry dome. And if And if you able to go to the LAUNDROMAT, you know like a a slow time of the day. Why don't you just take your close in laundromat? Do everything in one place I mean yeah I cannot do that but. You're spending your money or. visit. Paying to watch when you can watch them at home. Home and put them in the bag. You get your car to bus or whatever you go to the laundry. Van? Dramatic. An. All usually, what I've been doing now is taking all their but. I'll do it all at the LAUNDROMAT. Washington dry up. But sometimes like in between like I don't WanNa go I don't have enough to go all the way laundromat just washed or. Close to my house. So it's not really that deal for me. in-between. You have the Washer not drive. No. I mean like inbetween like when there's not really that many clothes but I need something like washed and dried like really quick. So do you have the dryer? No and get Them saying. But you've been going to the laundromat right. Yes. So you take a full load of clothes in Washington and Crib, and then go to the laundromat you doing that on a regular basis. I never agreed to dad won't. Just say whatever I'm aware today. I'm a dry here. Cindy you. Do to the cocoa. I got COTTAM is my pocket no doubt. And like like I'm just looking at it and ain't line, it's like thirteen dryers. that. Says non workable. See. Babacan loans that's when you live in like my love he's in the beloved lives up the block from my mother. So there's a lot going on in the X.. There's a lot going on. Still using the coins. Do you have to go to the LAUNDROMAT that? Mileage Mattis has the card. Now they don't use coins anymore we have coins. Coins shorted. Coin shortage why don't they go all these laundryman? Which? Is a car the? I'm at the LAUNDROMAT I go through down row. Got A big sign like don't take the quarters. The old school, their have quarters people coming in those machines are always breaking. The best machines. Susan. mccue. Agrees. Yes In the crib now, I'm going to the old school laundromat. Shop Air. Michael. Those Armegeddon. Drives. Close. Real good. I'm getting way to dry clothes as sit him happy of an open. And get a hanger. To. Your Hobby on the series note man I just want to let them know we're no that we lost a brother that you grew up with and I grew up with. Jd. Powers. Jd I just recently found out he passed well I. Put. Our condolences I'm GonNa go to Joe Page and take a look see his face. I'M GONNA take a look I. Cool it. This. Is All on facebook. facebook. 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Was a comedy show wants in the happen to have set right in. A moment you don't like to in front because comedian trying to come for you, right? Yeah. But I'll come back. We'll be taking bilby each other all lack. Just, sitting there he he joked and I'm just saying because he is not paying off the tough. Staring at. Count as. Funny as Comedians we raveled you guys boo than stare at us. This is the worst. But was a half. Pass. By. We always talk about the sick. Hey Joe Louis Alex Jones. How. What the joke was about wine that was called me. I get that. I guess. That was not a good one. Joe Sweating claiming Golden. Joe, how was the planning going through addresses letter Love I. Love. And I'm excited field. So. Shock shot the Logan here. Hey Shaw. Walker made as of now. But? But like you know have the plan South Dakota already, I, wonder how that works out like. When you already like let's say your wedding with your was to be married already or supposed to have. So you pretty much know that you're going to do but now. scheduled. That messed up like other. Being like your food or the decoration. Like my wedding falls by the time I WANNA have it again I was with the whole thing. I want a different call me to. Go Start. A new thing? Our duties. Piping. Good primary purposes everyone to stay alive but I count last year. Long giving. Her. Cheryl. Well we gotta play. We, still on. It. Please dot. com. Less I love. He's I'm about right now you gotta get mad at me. The way in Ohio. Ohio. By we always like. She still had. I'm way. Patch. report. brought. Here. I, have I. Have that's. Perot's. Yup. Everybody was okay right. And Now you would. Not Be. You would have heard about it. People got. The group chat. Congratulations. Mrs S Bridge that's right. because. She showed the baby she lifelock. We go down. I love you. What? Be In fear that the thank you. To the wind up. going. Around. About Twenty Five. Thanks you. Talking. About. Fifty seven. Twenty One Twenty one percent. That Brennan that your Polokwane. Got Foam. Pad. Feet away by. John Back. We to be scattered. How? About. which assisted Boston because. Let's make this habit because God forbid be based. Out of Cambridge. Back. Pay. Right. Spreading. ME. I probably would have to say I'm having my. Around Me My goal in the past though we're going get married today. I was. would. Tae Guy is. Michelle one show featuring a wakeup team you WANNA. Have a good time may sure you stopping at the IMU Locate Eight Thirty One south Delaware Dr here at Eastern Pennsylvania, they offer American cuisine in a twist on cocktails, a Wednesdays and Thursdays have a on site also, Friday and Saturday hit this move south of a local artists featuring jazz are be when you stop in. Make sure you tell them to show every morning show CINCI. You're. Hey. 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Cologne. Coming to you live from the show having one featuring cindy. J. We get your morning star thank morning started right cj where we're going to do we're GONNA go with some say says Yeah. We look forward to your segment each and every day let's classroom. Going on this. City says. Right now. Come on Airway Dwayne Johnson Dwayne, the Rock Johnson he went on Instagram the other day Tuesday that he and his family are currently on the mend from having the corona virus. and. He said that I can tell you that this has been one of the most challenging and difficult things we have ever had to endure as a family and he said and for me personally to as well and I've gone through some doozy's in the past. The Rock and his two young daughters ages four into exhibited mild symptoms but he and his wife Laura Passion where a different story there say they're happy to say that there are at the other end of it. We are the other side. We're no longer contagious and we are thank God we are healthy. They said that they believe they contracted it from close family friends and they just encouraged others to exercise extreme caution when meeting with friends or family and taking measures like getting tested before meeting up and wearing masks to prevent the spread he said he believes he benefited from his general commitment to his health. He said I've got knocked about and got in my ass kicked a little bit in the past some challenges but testing positive for cove is much different than overcoming nasty injuries or being evicted. Broke, which I have been more than a few times. The reason why I feel this is different is because my number one priority is always protect my family and my children and my loved ones. So shout to the rocket family. Better and I know I've been broke many times it. Yeah. But you know the virus man like the rot catching the cocoa. Yeah. It does it does like this make. Everybody could catch. And he's top business, he's in top shape everyday day. Every day. When he sleeps, his body gets better. I can. Get as bad 'cause. Right. You know what I'm friends came over coughing and he got. So it's the again where mask. Stations, Washington you right and then Hopefully, we'll get to all like I said that. Run running through everybody. Everybody got. You all know that this is throwback Thursday I like to do a throwback story. Remember I was talking to you guys about future and his baby Mama you a rain right now no her story she had to go to the other baby mama to get. Pass. I am DNA because future even WanNa take the test he was like my baby claiming that ain't his baby it was for sure because the sibling tests came back ninety nine point nine percent of their sibling future was pissed when he's like they tested the. Brother. Simply Future like this was a sibling. A sister above eight old. Back. So then you know that allies that she does. Okay. So the court was like. All right. So obviously you reformer. So now you have to do child support. She was requesting from the court remember she was requested fifty, three, thousand a month. My Ass. She was waiting the longest 'cause he was denying the. Petition, she petitioned the court fifty, three thousand dollars off on that. For Short. We all went off on that. That's a little exorbitant. Six kids. There so we wife. Chaz come to a ruling hold on we got. I. From say like five grandma. Come on Shawn I've. Been in the system. been a child support. Sees far right. She's five. Ten. Say Ten a month. Jesus. Florida judge he recently said that future should pay Elisa only thirty, two, hundred dollars a modest. In child support. My. Very soon. This is based off of future claiming he only makes thirty thousand a month right which I do not believe. Save Cine you're lying star. No Sir Shelby. Alabama's. CHOOSE OUT FUTURES MONEY Damn loud futures lawyer. We haven't worked all year from the rolling violent on we have. In today's he has fifty thousand dollars in his bank account. Your order look at this man happy. Very liquid right now, he got a sell some houses. I applaud this young man thirty, two eight. Thirty. xactly six. Allow by. Law and the judge was like Yo. Wait a minute. You really played by doing this the sibling tests. Because it has not, she will even understand that I get that. But I'm saying she went a whole `nother route and the judge emotions I noticed. Too. Much. But we do know that the baby's head. You'RE GONNA get thirty. Two. Hundred dollars. I I'm flip this. Jesus Attorney Brandon Rock Bart spoke about the decision saying we disagree with it. We had some other evidence that was contradictory. The court order regarding child support was temporary and can be modified at anytime. The lawyer added. We are very hopeful that once we go all the documentation from him, his banking Info, his credit card, Info that the final child support number will be substantially higher. First of all, he said they were planning to. Depose to grill him about his finances in an attempt to increase the child support. Now first of all, Brian? RAF. RAF Four. branded. Root Bark. He's an all the. Noise not he needs to get fired. You Go. Come out there we got thirty, two hundred. Fifty three, thousand. Back with a Happy Day let me tell you. Got Two. Thousand. Like Sean said. Good right. That makes sense right? He needs to immediately get fi and beat up battle. Advocate valid. The woman has gone to an emotional roller coaster with this trying to get Bob you would say the coin. The judge. Put. A yield on all of this. They're going to have their mandate. Voyeur see it's not even about the child. It's about the finances going. She can't raise the child off thirty three, hundred dollars. Wishy leave because. Private. Property. Man. She wants to feed the baby organic. She lived in La city price of living city, the kids of your taught online that costs nothing. That top hole on city do you have to make your adjustments financially whether view making money or not? So. If you have three thousand dollars for the child thirty three hundred right right and you're done you move your punk ass out of La come to Bethlehem and Pocono. She's A. Dozen. Owners. To stacks for the baby and I applaud this judge this is just that is talking sense right now, the man as bobby colonial said has six of kids. He's probably paying all this money for these kids I know with the era gripped, right? She needed. Is. Right and he's paid and they're collected. That's how support to. Buy in the bank for the kids for later on top of that Barbie Cologne he's playing football in front of no audience right future. It's not even working. He's like Sean. Harvey home on a Saturday night doing nothing. Music he just put out a song drake he's getting. Life. Is Good Unit here it life is good. So yeah, WHO's buying this? Various. Nobody's. Albums anymore. So everybody download streams anyway like he's not doing any concerts. where? He's he's thirty, two hundred. Thirty, two. Girls, they get pregnant by stars in expected to you know be taken care of me. Just job. She says yeah. Job She'll be. She's got a job vein a the thousand a week. That's four thousand and this added. Seven thousand. They live according to you means banks. Grant a finance like a brand new Subaru Honda. Subaru. The Subaru forced. With the bike rack. and. What you get back home to her girlfriends. What's happening? Africa. because. Got Manny. Brian Ross dolls bamboo. Yeah. That's what happened. Her friends were like thirty. I. Because He. His other. Like my lake pay mortality. Baby Right. Melissa. Construction and he gave me stacks up. You only got Dr. Ilias all you. Can Yeah. So. Any money. For like well, bitch is better than nothing. Get A job. Any money. Meanwhile Kishan Coal and Daniel Booby Gibson her ex they settle their divorce but both agree to no child or spousal. Support? The to have agreed to no child support, they'll take care of their ten year old son. When he's in their respective care, each party is ordered to support the minor child while the child is residing with that Party and current child support is set as zero. Kisha bobby also opted out of spousal support mind you bobby Gibson remember when I did this story, he was trying to come at Kisha versus. Yeah He. The core finds that both the parties waive any right to current spousal support. No courtship any jurisdiction to order any spousal support for either party. At any time they're gonNA share the cost of education with his tuition. Paid to the minor school quiche and bobby have also agreed to not make disparaging remarks about one another and their families. and. They also are going to discourage. They're not gonNA have family or family friends say anything disparaging about. The other person in their care as well. Think about that is you can't control other people mouths like I say don't please they'll say that would you say? Man That's GonNa Affect. Your time with the kids yeah. These people understand. This Year we're situation because the courts involved. So the courts saying you can't say bad things blah. Blah to each other or the kid which is normal the plan wonder how they came to that like the each of them said, no money the that's the that's the thing that's baffling about this. Yeah. Because in these situations, the money has to be involved. So unless they agree not to do that. So so maybe it might be bipolar type relationship with everything is good on one end and then they start cursing and he can't do all that. So no cursing at each other but he'd probably do well with the kids financially in the town or the child. Because that's what these courts before and I thought this, you know the long as they don't curse at each other everything would be fine. Because aren't to court built for. All this nonsense because you know the the baby mother and the father can't get along. On? A. Place Anymore. That's Sean knows saying. ex-wife moved on. Alone she was like you know what our only. Because I'm happy the papers. So. Happy my ex wife. Dropped his voice. suit. And paid for uncontested divorce eight, four to two, hundred, fifty dollars and state of new, Jersey. Fedex to paper and one thing I had to do was sign it. She said. And she was in love and got married I'm happy now on those I god, bless you. Because she was taken everything. Thank. God bless you man what's his name? His name shot up. To You Great man that's that's that's great. Great. Man is good too good to have these type of relationships with men that enter into your life. Via Your ex wife and my kids love him. Because you guys might can can't. comes. Into your life. And show love to your children. Benefit exactly, and that's the way it should be. Some baby mothers and some baby fathers can't let it go because the baby. Or mother feels like that's their regina or their pain is for the rest of their life and they can't move on. And then it caused all this chaos in the life because the baby baby follow has a new relationship. Oh trust me I know. What down. So, you can have a baby you can have a beaming mother. You don't want to know more you moved on to somebody else baby mother went out there snack something. Nelson, winning now you matt. They give mad. For. PIP. Like you say they think he's still with. This twenty twenty San. The nineteen sixty. Women move on bags, fresh and new Penal Hallo and a new family yoke braids tough back up with Jesus thank God. Fellas you sit a doc somewhere and getting tuned with your feelings because you not all that goes sit in the closet. Doesn't sit around you. They think do. Do. People move on poor life. Once they get older here, you can't make the decision to. Do and then with your baby mother move on you. Know who who, who is around my who's around my kid shut up. You wasn't worried about that when you was out there tricking. Eight three. Paul on a budget trying to finesse another woman. Man With the man, this men with the men are talking to the men. Cut It out men let that go. Down your baby mobile's out there doing her thing. You'd think she can sit there as a woman in Vienna House with your kids and just miserable and you feel like you can come over with you want to your childhood their. Body here. You got the nerve enough to have another relationship in another phantom talking about myself. Come over and Show. Show. Peterson the creek. No. Start seeing the song about it. And then and then we got a golden corn. Until we got. Here he here he he loaded. 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His friends, what kind of a person doesn't call. He's employment. He doesn't have to call every five minutes was such a grownup. Let me get you doing apartment. Tackling. Wanted to. Listen you're here a month and sometimes I know he doesn't come home at all kind of. Let me to. Do. Jewish did you these people I've? Never stayed out all night without college stay out daddy never went out at all. You don't know how I feel bill. How do you feel now? You don't know where he is. You don't know who he's with he's winters. Enough hasn't been able to digest a decent meal six weeks. The MOM was out of control outlook good. Look. Dame. Worry. Does not stay out like this. The way I read. SHUTOFF shift. You. Know. Way like. I. Can't wait to go back to that life. I walked. Back to. My income. You. These. appropriate. Shop. Ajay. Hey. Why He. Wa. She got the. She's Apple. Got To do. What He. Watson. Out Visuals. Thanks. She got the front page news. Beige New Joan Wasser as e double. In, the can't deny. You got the front page new jobs they got the front page do y'all, y'all y'all. You for that utilize. Guys are too much. You don't have to do all of that. You. Know then, I am going to feel some type of way. Bush. Also. That? Same. The. Gyrating. We already know real. Hopefully. Hopefully on the plane. No doubt. While I have some updated news who is calling me terminate eggs. I have some front page news where we're going to get started with is. Payments Right we all want to know we begin our money stimulus. Stimulus I said I ain't get there with yet. Lincoln. It you got. that. Thank the New York state gave out like what was it like over three hundred, million dollars in benefits to dead people who has those shows I want his Phone? Yeah might look into that 'cause I'm suing if they did exactly tackling on your stuff. Address all of that people and the people that do not change address when you move. You got somebody to get you. More than half. That's called truth more. By now. This News Anna. Hunting hours going on with that baby I'M GONNA have to call somebody like, whoa how extras six hyundee that we were. Sidney what's up with? Unemployment. Some of that trump man you miss it. On the show excuse me who wants. Getting Missions. Barbie. I'm getting unemployment flown fourteen different states. I. I'm going to jail when this. We'll be doing this show. Like we go your shot I, work in Washington about four days anyway you. Say, this is a president trump he signs I believe. He had signed an executive order to give us four hundred right. But that you know that's still needed to get approved the Democrats were fighting. It was a mess. So now more than half of states are now approved for the extra three hundred per week and unemployment insurance. So on top you have to be making. At least one hundred dollars in unemployment benefits to be eligible for the additional pandemic. which would be additional three hundred. So. Stays have been applying for the funds from the from FEMA from the Federal Emergency Management Agency over the past few weeks but so far Arizona and Texas have been the only ones that have started to pay out claims. So now these following states will also start paying out the enhanced benefit in the next coming weeks. The following states are Alabama, Alaska Arkansas. California. No Pennsylvania is on the list New York I. Think I did see Massachusetts an email Rhode Island Vermont Virginia Washington. And West Virginia. Can Talk Maryland New Hampshire Montana Michigan May. Right I. Hope. US. Are they going to give back money from the to the few weeks? They didn't get the three hundred far from Barbie Cologne that information is still unclear go well. I'm emailing. Appointment as seven o'clock they. Got, information is unclear. Unemployment number please. The Pennsylvania unemployment number eight eight. Three, one, three, seven, two, eight, four you'd better call because they already busy they already they already disconnect people. So. So so right that's a good question. Yeah. Money we don't know yet. It's unclear, but we're going to get more money, but we should if been filing unemployment. Benefits sense the six, hundred stop I would imagine they would just fill in the blade I want. More stage are likely to be approved soon, South Dakota. Is the only state so far that has declined the subsidy oh well. You can say, no South Dakota. That's crazy. That's trump country. Kentucky and Montana are opting to give an additional hundred dollars on top of the three hundred from the federal government and the Standard State Employment Payments Sydney we. City. Rico proposals. That six accustomed sauce sitting Lico Christmas I'll Barbie. Eligible workers equality states will receive back pay. Day of the week. August I win. Spire You're. Going to get a look at the next coming weeks. Craze. Coming on top of the additional. So keep filing your weeks people. Listening to the front page news. Thanking. Continue. Saving. Phil Good News on. This single trust. Loose. Again. Does. Special Chris. Ready attitude. Thanks. Could. End. and. Quick Stay. With that. Me Too. The. Date. Correct Alex. Come Weird back. We front page news God. Bless you. See, thinks marquee three right. This is marquee three saying this on, we put the Lincoln in a group. See what else? Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Couple of. God. Bless me. Yes. Also in the news this one, it was a little disappointing to me I wanNA talk about it but I'm going to have to Nancy Pelosi. Nancy Pelosi. Wanted to get a little blowout causing. San Francisco. Now Nancy, you could do your own hair. Wait. So win well, Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday called her private visit to US EFFORT CISCO Hair Salon. This week. In which she receives styling indoors despite citywide restrictions on indoor styling she she labeled it clearly a setup. She. Held a press conference in San Francisco on. Corona virus. And she claimed that she was misled. By Her Neighborhood Salon. Security footage showed her at one point wearing a mask around her neck instead of over her face. She said I take responsibility for trusting the word of the Neighborhood Salon that I've been to over the years many times and that when they said what we're able to accommodate. Sorry this when they said that they were able to accommodate people one person at a time that we can set up that time I trusted that as it turns out, that was the setup. So I take responsibility for following for a setup and that's all I'm GonNa say on that she says she thinks the Solano's run apology. The basically what happened is that she went to somebody leaked footage of her walking into a salon where in San Francisco no indoor styling that they're doing here allowed to do outdoor haircuts. Doing that but anyway, so they can cut it outdoors. So she wanted to wash and blow dry and she didn't wear a mask not only will not only were you getting styled indoors but you all you also weren't wearing a mass and then she said it was because she was getting her hair wash. She doesn't wear a mask because she washes her hair. Well. You're going to have to wear the mask when you're in the salon, you wear your mask like getting your hair was I had my clients holy mass take you if you don't Wanna get your ear oh. Yeah. Spread just hold on your face I said Yeah. But when you even go like you could have just had somebody come to your house but. She said that she had a personal stars. They weren't available that day. She went to this place that she goes to all the time whenever ladies now round. The line, you don't know the laws in San Francisco. Congress or House Speaker Right Command wrestling. and. Somebody probably did. But that's not a she don't care about to say that here Nancy. This is not a good. It's not a good look. Yeah and that's where you're mass all the time all over the place especially places like this and and you didn't Nancy so you can't sit there and blame it on nobody else but to say so for some restraint, he's insignia bobby I would smash. Smash. Limited low hard phase. Real hard. On she got. So once you got the joke. Go I don't like that. Andy but. Without the women who? Visit there's a sub-conscious me. There's something you mean. Ran. Gillet. Area that for some reason. Jesuit, I'm not, prejudiced. I, would give it to Nancy Pelosi. Donald Trump. Donald trump used this as, of course, he in a tweet. He said Crazy Nancy Pelosi. Here he got. Him. This live. Seeing. Nancy Pelosi remember she was the one who started. In Asia. Our Call I'd. Words, I will call them. Crazy Nancy Pelosi is being decimated for a beauty parlor opened when all others are closed and for now wearing a mask despite constantly lecturing everyone else we will almost certainly take back the House and Senate Nancy Packing, exclamation, point ooh. Tell us how you really. Follow. Up. Backtracking and saying that she was set up though Nancy nobody's sets you up to. A place that right should have been closed meeting ray shouldn't even have one at it. Shouldn't even have wanted to go. She got somebody else to do your hair when he a little interns to give you a blowout y'all ain't doing nothing anyway. Nobody's looking at you. You looking crazy streets is not good for the movement. Nancy. Hi Four front with following your lease install give it. Your lead Nancy, you should be just on top of. Set Up. Up Aga setup I was today using these words. Owner trying to set you gain from this maybe trump's what is. They can't be hotpots. Hopper. and not following off the. Actually been seen her I've seen her photograph many times with the thing right around here today. Yeah. You wear it for if you don't WanNa wear. I tell she down some people like to talk with the mass and people donate. But if you go ask. For. You're. Allowed an unseen we can hear you off a little bit. Understand that cine but. She should never been in this. She put herself know Nancy you have you weren't. You weren't set up which was reckless. And Selfish you put yourself in his hand when you are a top political figures, almost a celebrity Rockstar rockstar status you have to come outside correct, and if the Salah's close in your town of San Francisco y you in a salon, they're supposed to be closely. was like, is it that? Differ you to get your hair blown out Like it's going to dry. You need to go get jazzy. Camera. But She GETS PERSONAL THOUSAND TRAVEL WITH YOU Establish who had to go. Back. Anybody. I will fly to for. Watching I. got you, meows. Harvey Nancy Cordes. Hook you up, right. Yeah. You, need to do that. But The way. Way. Back Cars and Barbie Columbia. There's more. Oh, sorry. More protests at. Killings, going on video recently surfaced yesterday relatives of the man Daniel prude police officers that are involved in his death a they're marching in Rochester New York for these officers to be charged with murder. He died suss suffocation after police officers who were taking him into custody, put a hood over his head, and then press his face into the pavement for two minutes according to video and records released by his family and local activists us. Down prude who is forty one DIED on March thirtieth seven days after his counter with the police after being removed from life support his death occurred two months before the killing in police custody of George. Floyd in Minneapolis But it's attracted widespread attention only on Wednesday when his family held a news con France to highlight disturbing footage that they have just. That they that have just been released like also these police through these investigations and they withhold this camera footage I saw wrong right? Isn't the point of you having the Body Cam footage so that you can see immediately what happened. To what you need to do it go, why are we just finding out about this because again, cj where we need to get rid of is the immunity and the officers are still working again, a we need to get. A hood on somebody's head. So that was to they said, he was spitting and they were scared the coronal but he's still winds up dead still doesn't justify the men. and. The law topsy rooted a murder they choke this man day again again here we go. Again. Here we go. Again again, has to go to the Supreme Court. I don't know if the Babylonians will allow it. Immunity for police officers have to be removed, remove it. They have to come to work every day knowing if they killed somebody that they're going to jail especially if he's not Janice not because you know like I know there's a bunch of good police officers out there get it then but it's the racist and the ones who do duties. Criminal Acts. Are the ones that are responsible for lists and they need to change everything no immunity for police officers that takes away. That desk duty every police officer killed somebody on desk duty. Or. They got home leave home with pay. Or. You. Know, you go to jail all these officers need to go to jail said it's not. Even, if he was schizophrenic or whatever he spitting on everybody. Okay. He. Served to die. Yeah. That's what you. Like, okay. With the thing on him and put him in the car. Get them in the car what is all of this restraining and holding Dow Holding? A restraining Bi dam next like what? Is Sydney's up. He's outside but as negative sitting on the street. How crazy? Die For this. No that's IT Corona virus they're coming out with the vaccine it. They said it should be ready by November first. Sean. Are you ready for that? I'm a I'll take it I'll. Pomona of vaccine. November I laid October. They say the vaccine is. Being produced by of axe and has been deemed safe in early clinical trials and options made by Sanofi Pash. If he were right over here and glaxosmithkline starting their early trials backed by the Federal Operation Warp speed effort. That's what it's called. Operation Warp speed right for our vaccine. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds I wanNA take. Dr Anthony Fauci is important people to stay safe during upcoming Labor Day, holiday to avoid another spike and the CDC is flexing its economic muscle by temporarily halting evictions through the end of the year, they say public health issue because fictions force people to move around a lot and share housing which ups the risk of infection. So Ain't nobody get a victim will thank you so much, Sanjay we'll be right back. Are we saw. But at the end. Of, year. One. What they? Ask. All. Right now then. Just. Place. Thank. God. Somehow. I come back. Great Show. Throwback Thursday. We have a guest tomorrow calling in. And we have a new artists desk we're going to interview as well. and. We don't play the young as music. So, that's tomorrow fulfil Good Friday and we have the chat room member of the week. So we're excited about that. So you guys. Can. Be. -TUNI-. Barbie honor ago here on chat. The story is everybody knows that if you if you didn't Bobby Cologne was listening and. Then she joined the decided to show and Bobby was actually going to be. and. Week and received. She came on this side in that eliminated hoping chairwoman. Speaking of Bobby Cologne. It. Wasn't. Able to. mean. Four. Miles. Away for screen. Cine I've been watching the NBA. I'm not even about nightmare good. It's you score part. Thing is. Sydney, out there like that whole no audience. What does it look like they haven't seen as a sin the gym gymnastics arena. And on side of the arena. If you enter a contest at from the NBA Dot Com. And what happens is if you win the contest whatever they doing. You will be on screen in the arena. Yeah. So you can see your face. How many people do they do at a time? Just one person. The whole arena one-sided arena in the back a looks like. It is still just a bunch of screens. Screens, and you see faces. And then the detained like for example, like the Milwaukee Bucks played last night. It was their home game. Yeah. So you see all of their fans, there is some of the fans of the other team within Oh. What you see on the floor has milwaukee everything's Milwaukee. But I protested at in the beginning because I thought. It was corny. We have the cocoa out there. You know we want to see people understand but city I've gotten used to this and the games I feel the same way. Watching the the game. If the audience was there, that's why I'm excited about football now because they won't be anybody in the stadium. First few game. Right city man, but it is still have that same emotional impact. Because while I was watching basketball last night even though it was this whole virtue thing that the games were really good. Yeah. So Okay. Get. Some. I'M GONNA look. These games I'm going to look and see because I don't watch. We're in history people. Witnesses things. NBA Ratings are in a free fall after the boycott the brief boycott the hey, last week. Bros... Why is into free fall but they are down in ratings at least thirty percent since default and they a little upset about that. But I always from the free. Because of the the whole little. Demonstration I think because fans really just not into this whole. I can't be an audience. Yes. I Barbara Cologne totally agree with you is just even like I'm a sports guy love sports. So I think some of us are like really trying to sports, right? Yes. With the whole. Ryan. Barbee like the mainstream folks they don't want to deal with this. They want to watch the and they WANNA be there you know hooting and hollering for the team out thirty percent. Thirty, percent Dow. So hopefully, you'll get John Ratings back up I. Mean I really don't care goes down, right but oh well. There was only one game last night guys and the Miami. Heat. Who Game Only, one came up on my Espn Barbie there's. Two. Games last night. Let me see. Hold up stop it would. Have to say when? You. This two games last. Let me. Give you. Wait. What she's finding That is used. Norma stuff. I remember watching the game. Doug with. Barbie clones is absolutely right I just think. Like. Okay don't care about it. What's the world we live in the where we live in? The world we live in now Barbie since I. First of all is late in the year to be playing NBA basketball where we should be sending in. The preseason of the upcoming season. Basketball. Basketball. Pushed itself all the way into the next season, right Hockey did as well. Right now, we should be in baseball and the WNBA and Soko the but everything is wacky. Thing that's on schedule and they wrap up the weeks. That got a lot to do with it too. Exactly. I mean people now. The viewership low. Racial injustice. Snow. I think, yeah, YOU'RE RIGHT BARBARA Review I think they should. They should cancel all sports. Yes. There's no need for the be like you're not really making money off of it right now because people are not really buying payroll people like you can't sell tickets come to the gang. Like didn't even have commercials. Airtime. A. Guess. What now this week I don't know if you're GONNA share his. Own Story. But Bobby The families were allowed to come to the. Facility that limit. is in a girlfriend they need to have it. You know they've been away from a long people need to see family yeah. That's. What is tested for the coronavirus fresh they. Should. Have, been. I think because because before before he's suburb. This NBA did a great job with the cocoa. There's none of the players have the virus or none of these coaches. Good. Good. Yeah. So why does this can in that bubble for the next it'd be overweight in a month and a half or did they have to go see? Should we everyone goes see their families. Visitation vegetation. Like being away from you and. Your family, you know a little bit Taylor. benched show. Miami he wants sixteen the Milwaukee Bucks one fourteen the lowest the bucks his was interesting about that the bucks Milwaukee the Knicks they haven't won a championship years. The bucks used to win it with Oscar Robertson Kareem abdul-jabbar. For he went to the Lakers, right Aren't they the ones that walked out that started boycotts and they have the Greek freak the the play I can't pronounce his last name. He's the top player in the NBA. Cine the Milwaukee. Bucks. Are the top team in the Eastern Conference and. The Miami Heat Oughta worst team almost one of the worst teams in the conference that made the playoffs. But in a leading the series two, they're beating the Milwaukee Bucks to the one in a full time tonight to two. And a four game elimination. But the Milwaukee Bucks beat the crap throughout the regular season he weird. Do what his was weird about it do like the underdog right they the ones I root for. which team yeah. The Max and I like to go for underdogs. Okay. But his within the Milwaukee Bucks. Can beat the crap out of entertainment NBA right during the regular season when they shut down cocoa even when they came back with this. But they never could be the Miami Heat in the regular season. That's great. She not match up in the playoffs. And the bucks still can't beat the hang can't be compete every team or sitting. Here because I think a psychological how? Yeah. They feel like we just can't beat the heat. A. Cheap to see how the mind works. Yeah. So should we bet on this game Sean? I, think we should. Who? I don't know but now I WANNA go a now I wanna go for the Milwaukee Bucks No to beat the you do I wanna go I wanna go to the heat because remember their lowest see but Also with psychological though maybe the Milwaukee Bucks they're feeling a little confidence. Maybe, they compete the heat now anything for Pimm in the regular season and the second ranked team is down to always well, this has never happened with one and two seed and evil coffers doing the playoffs are down about to be eliminated. Doing bad now to. The heat would just regular team they made the playoffs. Data regular. Ear Yeah like a five hundred year they won forty games law forty eight. Out of eighty. The Milwaukee Bucks, Fifty wins and five losses like every comparison. But out of those five losses, I'm just throwing that number out. Of that He. was. By now, in the playoffs when they matchup, imagine how to Buckfield your who's mix contender, you'll be I play the heat. Long. And last night cine check this out. This is wwe it gets weird food. Last night. Sit last night's game. It ended would afoul. Okay, shooting foul. And the score was tied. Between the bugs in the heat between the box he. Did, do goes to the free throw line. Team guests names with. This does name. Sini Yeah. This no time on the clock. The scores tied right and when in regulation, right? So you know how to shoot a throw all the Gaza right there they had to move away. In the guy is there shooting by himself. In a in a gymnasium virtual. But it still felt the. He goes to. Do is make one shot. He takes the shot the ball rims how are. Like. Those in. My goodness. On? Type. Takes a second stop. It goes. They win the game on the foul line. Jimmy, eat Jimmy the he city the Milwaukee Bucks. Swept bottom Miami Heat because let's go back to the psychological part of this, they can beat the team and look how they lost last night. On the free line and it was tied. I think they're GONNA do it. I'm going to go with the heat I'll go with the heat. But then everybody's going for him. You'RE NOT GONNA win no money isn't that I don't know because you will probably will the odds. Believe. The is is still with the bucks. 'cause they're desperate GONNA win. 'cause they go down three Zeros over right. So they might have to come out whenever they play the next time and they they stay they fighting for their basketball lodge right now the season right but I still think they just can't. I'm going with the heat the heat underdog still. Spread. Out Spread. Now while she's going. For you WNBA scores grow. Bobby of ready to this school, oh? Okay. I'm sorry I do apologize okay, see thunder and the Houston Rockets. And that's what they call around. To show great. In Houston Rockets play yesterday the rockets one, one, four, two, one, zero, two again same situation A. Game that was city this one went down to game seven. City. The rockets one rugged. About again virtual. Arizona stance, right. The game ends in the same way tied. Do goes to the free throw line. Yeah from Okay See. Houston with the Knicks. Ghazni name. Sydney to God city. The guy is a top freak. Don't percentage dude right? Like he's ninety nine percent at the free throw line. He's the type of guy when he goes afrita he's GonNa. Hit those to Iraq, right sending he goes to the line he's the one one shots this over. He misses the shot. Twenty, nine, twenty, nine, he goes to city. You could see him. He was nervous. 'cause. Right Those nobody on the last. Day said he goes up there. Why did they want them on the free throw line because that was in the act of shooting or it doesn't have to be an active shooter the other team was in the penalty. So when you get enough team thousand, go to the file. Regarding. The Guy was twenty nine for twenty nine. Throughout, the players. The guy's ninety something percent. You missed this. He goes to lies. City a but let's go back to the cycle. Thanks tonight. He loses now imagine do miss the shot you turn around you see your whole team. Like. This. City he was the the goal. Well Hey. That he that ten percent guide them. There was no we've laid a whole game since did was. He was tying his hands are stripped. There's nobody in the. GM. John Corales. Don't like. The basketball game and the guys at the free throw line, and you can see the crowd. Your. None, of that. Like this. Close. Out. How right the pandemic. Miss now bobby, there's no need to take the second shot. To Walks away. He knew He. Did you hear anything from these screens can you hear people they do they have like? Can you hear people? Say happened to have like a recording, right like like the the bucks they played at home so Record. Sick sitting here. Come, on can shop. God He bring the guy out break. It's ridiculous day. In. The Sky play yesterday eighty, six links, Scott AB three. La Sparks, and the Dallas Wings Ninety one sparks wings Ab three in Washington mystics sixty four, Seattle storm seventy a one to get. Ace's right yes. The Las Vegas eighth is shot up to Kim Kabul. Yes and your baby girl yes. I don't know we. All I. Wasn't too. I just became previous this here. Fifteen former female employees were suing the Washington team form of race gives for sexual harassment. Right they was saying that they sexually harassed do why they will working with the team while the owners of the team wanted the Roger Goodell and the Commissioner to take over the investigation because they wanted to have to make sure it was I'm biased. So they the the commissioner had to take over. The investigation last week. To make sure that the investigation was fair and that to prove or disprove these accusations. are still going to you know look and see what's going to come your day. Probably did because the you know an easier problem positions, they do no wrong or do they want to do So I. Believe I. Only I only got know the whole story appleby y'all. To move affects. So what does the saying that the NFL administrators were involved in? Ri- fifteen employees they said during their time with the team be hired Snyder wash to law firm the wash LP to review the culture policies of the team. in Lisa the lawyer Lisa banks the lawyer for two of the women. She met with the vice president and despite the special counsel investigation on Monday to you know, start the process of of the the law of. The investigation. You know NFL keeps taking hits right? Should just all be disbanded and it's it's so crazy because it's like everything that NFL stands for and what they say that are their principles. They don't follow any of that anyway. So. Even know what we're what we praise the NFL for sending our kids over there to do that getting concussions and all of that. So, that's up. Breaking News Steve Najib's became the head coach of the Brooklyn Nets out of contract. Oh. Steve. He's Meghan. Show. Where we can. Colona facebook why we clone designs on Instagram by close is degree. Yes. You can find me Sanjay on facebook sending underscore Jay on instagram and Sunny J on snapchat. facebook mutual harvey on Facebook Hoffy on Instagram you guys be safe. We're going to head over to the group rooms in Bobby has some fun in there and we got small for Phil Good Friday Chapel Midweek new artists and all of our interviews we're out of here most. Random. I'll turn them off. T. You.

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S2E10: Shawn Harvey Morning Show 09/04/20| Comedian GL Douglass

The Shawn Harvey Morning Show Podcast

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S2E10: Shawn Harvey Morning Show 09/04/20| Comedian GL Douglass

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You WanNa have a good time may stop in at the IMU located eight Thirty One south Delaware thrive here at Eastern The American cuisine and a twist on cocktails on Wednesdays and Thursdays they have deal site also Friday and Saturday hit moves south of a local artist featuring jazz or are be when you stop bent. Make sure you tell them to show every morning show cinch. I come on. This It is a bill. Bobby I. Feel so good. I feel really good. Truly blessed on a Friday Phil Good Friday Bobby Cologne. Yes i. am feeling good bobby how you feel great. You look great to. Barbeque check this out. It is Phil Good Friday this Friday September, the fourth twenty twenty this ten minutes after the hour. Welcome everyone to the shaw the morning show featuring Jay Co host part. Cologne. Where you get you morning started right only place on Earth where you get your morning started the only place where you gonna get that morning. Love we are broadcasting live iheartradio radio DOT COM shaw. Harvey morning. Show Dot. com. Radio DOT COM comedy world net radio, all major podcast platforms, and right now we are on the all mighty facebook live check this out the chat rooms. Please show some love if you don't mind or if you dare call in the numbers five, seven, zero, two, six, thousand, five, zero, only place on earth we want to start right Buddy Cologne on of feel-good Friday bobby. Good Morning God. Bless you feel real. Grateful today. You Look Great. Thank you and Bobby. How you I'm great. Low tire but I'm great. You'll look I. Like hair Bethlehem we work as live. So you from right now it is sixty six degrees. It's cloudy is going up to a high of seventy nine today. In the sun make him out a little bit later. Your is a possibility knows in Strasbourg six also cloudy partly cloudy at the highest going to be seventy seven also, it's going into Sun may come out a little bit later seventy in Newark New Jersey. The highest going to be eighty two today and it's a beautiful sunny day. Yes. And in New York City, seventy degrees going to a high of eighty six today is going to be sunny as well. In SME would say Hotlanta seventy three degrees going to a high of ninety one today in the is going to be a beautiful and sunny day eighty four and Miami partly cloudy with a small chance of rain. The highest going to be a ninety in Miami and in Chicago I'm sorry a cargo it is fifty nine degrees. It is sunny right now in this going to be a beautiful sunny day also in Chicago, with a high of seventy nine, it's going to be clear Los Angeles. It's sixty six degrees right now going up to a high of ninety in, it's going to be beautiful and clear. In Los Angeles that's I have for you all. What's it look alike where you are coming to you live from the show heavy morning show featuring Cindy J. we get you want to start right exactly part clone where you get your morning started right we have the morning buzz and I guarantee you guys on Good Friday your head will be buzzing on no streets we also have front page news but the one that only send j s to the e wnyc we're gonNA give you news locally nationally from the hood all over the world stay tuned for that you don't want to miss the news what else do you have Really have little harvey half Split State to listen. Don't go nowhere we are building right now we are here telephone sulphur shaw, more show featuring the WACO team Monday through Friday seven am ten am all over the world but check this out Barbara. Cologne. On Phil Good Friday. We usually dedicate the show to the listen. So we want showed them a lot of love because you know we're gonNA shut them out. Oh Wiz, the heart set in the chat rooms. And also on Friday right we're going to announce a chat room member. Go, this week. Rat I wanNA know who is. This week. So and then we have a bunch of special guests called in today on. Good Friday we dedicate this show that guys bump law I. Feel Real grateful today. Yes. I feel really good. They bog Matteo numbers. We go to church. All right. Let's go we go everybody put your prayer voices in their put your hearts and chat room but we are going to go to church if you notice song similar. Words it's not. We'll put the song in the group room a lot of sophomore with. We'll go, to church on Friday. Morning. So let's go. Let's go. Back. Ships. Oh. Let's. Talk. Now. Let's go. Build the product. Shit show. I do. Really. Troubles. Suceed about. Let's. Break more. What's Plus, keep. Singalong. Pop leave. I know. So today. Today got. y'All. Tech Chat with the grape. Feels Good Friday. Prayer is no hearts. Only place where you get your morning started riding. On this. So some love. Let's go. Away. Only. Grateful called. On the Friday. Chapman BEVERWIJK. Before right math. Of Heart of. Chapel. A Today on the field try to. Leave it. On Good Friday. Overnight. Heart one on on Friday you church right now. Yup Lessons All. Zupan. Come on open up your heart. Let's go on. Good, Friday. Go Back We're go back. Let's. Come on. Everybody feels good Eddie. Thank God that we are allowed to sail like my mother always say thank God Pacino we'll be right back. Think. From. Floyd. Deep Look. Get up time to get up. Come on. Up. It is a Phil Good Friday a Friday September four. Bobby Cologne Twenty Twenty, it is twenty three minutes after the hour well that Harvey morning. Show featuring Sidney j Cole's Khloe wants talk right place on earth weeks. Right channels open please call five, seven, hundred, ninety, six. That's how they see an Lebron's Barbie seven zero exotic BOB is out. That's given away our number illegally to sound like this. Well thank. God we're legal right. Zero Eight, two, six, five, zero pardon me real quick before we shout out to whom you don't mind Lok weather you don't my God bless you and this is here in Bethlehem guys it's sixty six degrees cloudy. The high will be seventy nine today. May Have Louis we may have low shower sometime later on you know in Strasbourg six well cloudy in high is going to be seventy seven today. That is the weather that I have for you. All wasn't looking like where you are come and you live from the show Habimana show featuring Sidney J will you get your started exactly where you started right bobby? Colombo. Shut out the room. You know we make a lot of changes in the obviously we've been back. This is our second week that let's climate. And there's a lot going on. We went virtual for a few months right bobby we went from. March all the way to July didn't even see you physically time, and then now we all thrust together again, and now we enhance we're doing this and grateful for what we have here this morning Barbie. and. We. Let's. Let's give a shot at the DJ roll. Out Wrong, this is not happening not true. Exactly so Barbagallo before. We. have. Some new lighting barbeque? Oh. Yeah. We have battleship lights in here. Right? Barbara I feel like I'm at like. Early I feel like I'm a Yankee Stadium Right now asthma Bright Barbie these are the lights that they have in the hood in the project. When the police put those. The police they put these. Like generators. Yeah in the look. With the police emblem on radio and they have big bright lights illuminate the whole hood, right? That's what I feel like these lights are. So everybody in the chapel where you're gonNA. Go see like because I sweat a lot boards. Sweat from my Chin I. Right? I don't know why as already happened but. I don't know. All. I say. These lights are alright. I'll swallow like. But my Chin starts to leak. Buffalo I have a leaky Chin leaky. So the Chin is the Chad put the. So on the Chin, it activated the Chin Yeah. So Bobby if you look at me and you see a lot going on here is because you know what? Drippy Chin bobbies used to it everyone around me a lot. But I feel like I need to put my mass bobby on my kids maybe. Maybe the. Loop if you're. On. Hold on. Hold on everybody. All chain. I got. Day Go there you go and this and this is. Because mature sweating barbed. Yes. Right you saw. A sweaty Chin is not sexy now. It's not the fact bobby myself go looking for my age. But sweaty. Chen. Now, that's not sexy Sean. So I'M GONNA keep. This. Until. The Nazareno said. They keep me warm absolutely. Yes they heat up Novick and Freeze out really. The Bob you're GONNA catch a Beautiful Tan in. Each and every day. Way Way to top bigger, you might you might need to cover up Tan. Well. While I work on my Chin Bobby Cologne guess what we? Showed it Chapel Salah for me. Because without these guys, we wouldn't be here rank. Absolutely. I would love a chat room. We love you guys so much. That, that's one of the main reasons why we come here each and every day. For you guys 'cause you guys help us out. Now I need to see those hearts in the chat room right now trae heart set with a heart set in the chat room. Hey can win hearts that we need to see the hearts we want to show. You guys love because again it's just so important. For us because even though we're doing this on a virtual, this is still virtual in the sense. But it just felt like the spirit of the chat room is in this room here I mean it's hard to explain right bobby but. got. Gaza here. Here. All everybody. Everybody can't fitness room if you think this room is is A. A normal size of big room. It's not not that big. It's A. Big Man. Look. Like big on your. So. But if we. Pre Coco Cocos over. We go. Have everybody come into this room come on and have an open house. Let's. Let's show the chat room some love with awards than. Heart's. Harvard. Bobby. Let's go. A Win. Win. Win. With a heart set A. Hey. Wait Arts. And What life. What Hey said what? What What. City just. Everybody. You're not. You'RE NOT GONNA. Believe this. We'll get back to the song while we're doing where's the Hawes? We have this storefront. You can't see we turn the camera, but we can't. We can't see any way you look. We look right out into the street. Yeah taught. US. In is going to it's going to get terribly uncomfortable five minutes. So, while we sing, where's the heart set? Barbie Bob you focus. You're doing your thing right city is right in the middle of the storefront. Doing doing this. City. I know I, saw Sean like do alike this. was about this, Saturday? And I like the Babylonians. Lacking hoses. Triscuit into this this go. Yeah. Matt Brands. TAP. Chat. Chat. Chat. Chat. Chat. Let's go. Hey that. The heart. Turns. Out Widow. Hey wait a heart. Heart hard. Chat. I. Chat. Aren't that. Chat Room. Fact. Access city. Let's go. Hey. high-tech. When The. Wet Heart sack. What Food say. Hey. WHAT CALMED DOWN Explaining today this sounds. So the have. A Cup of coffee nothing. That's all you need. That's all you need. The blood of Jesus. Amen. TACO. Sorry. Let me turn down my phone. Gal. Like when you when you? Listen to the show like what are you doing what's going to but then I was everybody's start talking to me and I was like I want to stay focused and I wanted to surprise I just WanNa like come into the man but that's Not what were you guys talking about work? Yeah, let's shut out the room. BEEN WAITING MORITA CHUCK UNDER SIMMONS IS. Building. That's right. Morning Girls. Young and net is here of young nut Gregory's up David. Gregory David What's going on? So Bright. Aren't they? Can you look at sweating over here? You shown his Chint wet. But it makes me WANNA stare into them but I don't WanNa. Live. In because he. Is. Put like something on there we'll talk row shade are. Going to be right. All right. You can see sean good rain, shoulder. Put the camera on you Shannon. Angle. Wedding. City swit- eating regardless. On a delay. A high energy guy. So there's a lot of Swick. Everybody can see it now. Shot you. Guys can see Sean drippy chance. Okay on you look good. FELLAS would look away for a second ladies. Take a look at this drippy. Chin ladies. Chin turn you on May not feel Good Friday. Who a little bit of my drip juice that's disgusting continue. Here damned. Leave. This is in the building more. Towards Dawn Smith is here. Hey. Surf. Breaks. A warning. Sir. What I believed. Off already. Kitchen already be at school so I don't know what be taking you so long. He says, baby makes maybe he'd go back on bears Oh. Yeah that's Matt. April. Real quick kind of put some kids there and they go. Back inside. To See. 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We really appreciate your president and we're GONNA have you to free we promised definitely Tanya loves the I love you too. That's what we need to be. But we will we have the ability. Right right. Jimmy a kill do is in the building Jermain, are you? Learn that net nest Serano is he actually allows. She's so sweet. To show it out. It's weird. It gets weird when like this? We had love for everyone of course, but there's some individual. It gets really weird when they're not there and she's one of. We have all ut out soon, we we. We just let this go first and we have. We have all that stuff sitting here for. The show on Hayes Jones is here. Hey, girl Hey Leshan. Morning. saw. What's Heinous. and Nina. He's not on that trevor more you on the treadmill inside when you went that same energy, right? On my brother, he's this morning he woke up. Like. I. Always have contracts size. Pizza. Hey Bill Bray Good Morning Morni- who you girl WHO's another one? She's always here love. went to squeeze you. Tina Smallwood Hill is in the building team. Are you knew? Does happen. Though he small Smallwood Hill Hey Tina Small Hill, we appreciate your watching. Another. And Tell us how you hear about the show. please. Share it. Thank you. We appreciate your don't. The shots Smith is here hello show I'm good morning to you. Yes. She's in a couple of times shooting the one from CHICAGO. I, think. James. Show Jason Chicago okay. Personality. Girl. From game welcome to the show again yes. Yes. Did you hear about US Darling? I'm who else do we? Number One. Barbie that that Tina name is. Not. Latinos. Whoever's Tina's live long and prosper yet you don't see new babies named Tina. And when you get a chance, I, want to know what's the ten popular female names on urban side not the Babylonian shots. Show. Chassis Sunny. CJ. And if you don't mind, cause your look up top. Wife. Tina small will heal his youngest wife. Welcome to coming into the chat. Room. Chatroom girl let south. Only Take his phone. Why don't we? Just give. Some credit for being persistent to get his wife into the chat room at the seven years. What about that? Looking at it. Yeah. I always go to the shoot. Sorry I'm. GonNa. Ask. That turn occurred condition. Right Hockey People's Hey, what up paquin good. People. I know him that's one of my. That's the old people. Could. You hard team people's is one of your people's rights. Hey hockey you city Hakim in the eighties that name was. I know somebody. It's ridiculous and that's Show that was her best friend. A lot the started. Asia. Asia. Came that name been out there way before that. When I started hearing that name. Every how came I met? I. Was scared of. That was low rough. They wear low rise is. The man from the Newark Area Yeah. Ho. Families Nettie. Shoutout nor. Nor nork. Never really don't pronounce the are. But that's that's north thing. Newark. From Newark. It didn't roll. It doesn't roll off the tongue. Cash from their. Black people from Delaware they they say Newark. Delaware is hockey. Look. Okay, whatever exactly right. Is. This. I teams when fourth ward. Were You Got Up members on twenty seven. Wards. And The pisses got corona. In. What he moldy right and half the time Kim was not their real name. David or or Jay or something was real name but you know they had to get a little streak credit today changed. Muslim they they would they became. Muslims. Akbar. That was in the sixties and then it went down to Philly. Right, so all the folks Philly, the Muslim cavs much-respected. Those guys that's that was in Newark and then it went down. It was crazy for us. Barbara who is we have Barbara is here Hello Barbara Marna. NRA BOB is another one keep that keep living long young lady. I know some Barbara's. Sin Did. You get the urban names. They don't have a list for like. Urban. Name. Like what? This. Beautiful. Shepherdess here hey, a good morning NBA. Next. Be Next to be next by Shell. Shampoo in the building build up shelves. Keep your mother Mad Pimp Johnny Whip Oh is he used Johnny we have as commercial, right? Right. To, off on Monday for Labor Day. Okay. So we'll. Be. Cine, we'll post that in a chatroom. We got off. Who else we have marcy ramose. It's in the building Hager girl. Disagreement. The urban coach in. been with the urban man few times God blessed. Joseph there is here good minded llosa Hey Sean beaming just pop in Wuss up girl how are you who we have here but not George Henry's into building Haven Anna. Princess Cats Hey baby. Mr Abbas. Yes. Remember original. Defer city crews the next name. Really. You say I was GONNA say. The name. City. Sandwich. Should set the first chat room member of the week city. The started off with the BLACKHEART. Whatever? City the daily Earl original vk. Finest. Jackie Robinson themselves what about me? Always saying, yeah, we gotta get to seventy says. Horrible has turned growing is here hey coz. On Was the railroad another one in the eighties that's definitely Noor Right has on Hassan. I was scared of Hassan's to get. Scandal. Kimes and You don't know what do. To. Dal Travel Dabo Tribal, you don't want. Right. So why does he more serious? One good morning to one Gloria Williams is here Hey Gloria Mariya. By Shit shoutout to marcus the one Emoji Johnson what up mark real good experience with glory back in the. So you have said. Warriors many work at. John Cochran is here. Hey John. Mike. Baker is in the building Martin Mike Hey Morning. Reels is here good. Morning. Panama. Kevin. Cannon is here Hey Kevin left not least mcgirt. Sub Girl House down the enough lucky those all the names that I have seen right now if you are here, please to watch out for the next one. Yes and we truly appreciate everybody that's new listener all listeners you WanNa make sure that you guys stay connected with us on social media. So what you WanNa do is like and follow the Sean Harvey Morning Show. Featuring the wake of team page that we're broadcasting off. You'll get a notification. When we go live, we also have a group page that's on facebook on every morning show featuring the makeup group. The page is popping shots everybody that'd be posting. Please make sure that when you join the group, you want to add fifty friends. So it helps grow the community. You can also find us on the iheartradio platform under podcast click follow Oliver shows are uploaded there about an hour after the live shows. So please make sure you guys do that and also find us on instagram and make sure to like this video loves video, throw it on your wall or any groups you're part of we truly We'll sesame Jay. Thank you so much. What we do is we got his guests caller a few minutes. We'll take a break. Then guess to call in and then we'll go to Sydney says so we're do right now. Friday. Then we check. That's right. Back. To Jennifer Sketti. Hey Jennifer. Hey. How am I? Give you re. On. Has Been, made. Common to. Believe is one. Wouldn't. Do. Off. I'm in. I'm. Not. GonNa get the. Credit. But. People. Shot. Is your show sample brother. Hold on hold on hold on before we get a guest a Sidney. J You still have. Hold on hold on cine. His property. Deduction. This is the brother Sidney J that is one of my heroes. Work with him on Bum rush a great actors do's and we was seeing. This is the one and only one baby mother constantly. Less. On the ladies the ladies city face right now this platform, the one and only shelves. shelter. Right. I tell Ya. Why coach I this morning. Time for he may for the first time in my life. I'm. Tired. I won't be if. I want to go home. You. Know, what I say and Friday afternoon. Say. Stuffy. No. Never not everything is Monday when you got a job Fridays when you get home, right? If you're in on your Monday to me, right. Out of families as Monday for. A bit more relaxed. Go home you might Kamov. Could cough here and there now knows. Now, show no show they might. For for super motivated young men like he soon Jake God. Bless them. WHO A super-motivated young man like yourself Barbie Cologne for him to use the word tired because that's probably Ashok. Can more people just went to sleep. Right that's your. House the Floyd. Mayweather Syndrome like he just won't stop. Brother. Why are you right now? I don't go expand. I'm looking at work and I'm like. I got to do that and I saw. You. Don't don't. Don't curse though China catch. Show I. Just I. Don't know today into sound got not one. I am motivated today I'll know and that's kind of biblically. Coming up right and happening at the. Pop today. Wait a minute. But I want you to be. Whole Shows hold on I. Still Want you to even though he's filling way sending he's still got to focus on his job he works in Labor, and he makes a lot of money I don't want to nail the fall on. A hold on hold on that. Shot from Typo, I am a cover coats. May suit. What? You're. speckled. Certain Julie Apolo he not. Walk around with. Pam. Asks. He has A. Set Right. Now. See I work with the tailless. I'm finishing team, right so city, he's getting on this thing splatter films though it seems like this is what I'm trying to say senator even though he feels tired. Shells still stay focused on the job because he has a type of city he has. was sitting homeless. City. Lunch break. City. Day San Anytime. He got any flex time since he has the type of job though he makes a mistake is thing has gone. Be careful as won't say exactly, which is why he needs res-. Especially, if he's not feeling, he might get lazy one. Are you are you are you are you money motivated today? You could call out today. Are you money? MOTIVA- to what? I'll cold out in my life and that's probably about four or five times 'cause I just don't I don't. The ME. I. Is Ideal you. Stay within the move discipline I think it's So I stay right to. Just manage the. Cine this mine this man is for focus and he has tunnel vision for success in. EJ. The man. The man. Has. It took four days off and his whole entire life? Oh Wow. That's your dollars, seven years and only miss to date and the two days just because of food poisoning Sydney he's worked seven years on the job and Miss two-day. Let's. Let's clap from this. City. Player rarely values. That is that's insane. Now because these people out here show, how's how's? How's? How's the baby mother doing? y'All. Let me tell you something there. Great. Did you sneeze. Graduate Grado. And happy you know she. She can. She can match you fly. Right. So so have you have you. Have you have you bought the other the new girlfriend or your significant other over there to see the baby mother when you drop off the kids. On our teeth that question. Train was going by. The Bronx. The Bronx. Cine would. Do you bring your new girlfriend to meet your baby mom yet. Or when you go to pick up your kids. Is that what you're asking. Are you. Listening, can you bring your new girlfriend of meet your baby Momma. Oh Hell no is just my baby mamas. No girlfriend. That's my lady. That's US down. Shani's. Sohar how it works so hard to make sure they never stop. On this. Night. is like from my mom going three jobs and notice from a final go to four jobs and. I'd like you know what it ain't going to be like that with me. So I'll make sure you know my kids not the method. Before if what you had. That's all we got. We. I'm. Ashes. Yard. Right. She told me though I. Ain't did. Getting Siri. Right serve. Breakfast. Spin on you put a spin on it. Now she made sure that he thinks. Ashrat now. Story? Straight. You'll be vice. This is so real is so refreshing. Yeah. We we appreciate you man like I'm motivated even though it's not Monday we motivational Mondays we don't feel Good Friday but just hearing this young man. Talk even he's tired. Now imagine if he wasn't tired I'd be ready to go out there and pay up the to myself. Yourself. God. Bless. You to stay on love every day. How keeping up for? Estate. Money. For. We gotta go man. With. Who? IS A. As. I. Won't. On the. Way. Meet the hanging. Data. Glad. Joe. Dot. com. nope. Be Kids. She. taught. ME. A. Okay, we aback modest got back it is. A feel. Good Friday. Friday. September four, twenty, twenty, five minutes after I walked back more show. Which Star right only place on earth leakage, right? Audience to get the morning love we appreciate you guys each and every day Good Friday? Okay. we have someone on the phone my good friend. G. L. Douglas, classical jail can you hit me? Before you start seeing Jay. Gl. For from Jersey we're talking minutes I, just want to say one thing about. This woman is incredible. She is a whole Larry standup comedian. Teacher. Media hostile of comedy is just so so witty and so Smarter Punch Lonzo Dope. Women. Love, her men love her she's the super. Larisa. One was let's Clavo come. First of all, how are you today? I'm unwell. Well, it's so funny. Because we talked yesterday and then last night I got an email telling us as teachers. If y'all come get yourself come to work. You got to be about nine o'clock to get just a and we start teaching on Tuesday. It's just been crazy. So I'm actually trying to make my way to work and stuff so that I can virtually teach right starting next. Before she now she does stand up. Right. Right. And and help professionals. She's a teacher. Okay Right Now that's. We love teachers here how you teach sorry Shawn Sir I want to know if you teach them. Sorry. What did you teach? Second Grade Second Grade Oh. Wow. A little bit of everything. So and how long have you been teaching? I've been teaching now for nineteen years clap. Along. You official. So. We talked about virtual. We talked about you know. Kids going to school. In your school district. Guidelines Y, on your district as far as schooling. So as of right now, we are everyone's going virtually until November and then they're going to reassess. The where we are in terms of re opening It's crazy because we are a very heavy union district and so like they haven't told us anything because you know principle are afraid to reach out to us because technically with the launch of break. So I have parents already like e melamine asked me what's going on? I have no answers for them right now so Tuesday what do they want to know? What are they asking? I mean, they want to know you know about the signing the platform, the guidelines, the expectations and things of that nature. I mean. It is and this is uncharted territory for everyone so. You won't know until you get into the thick of. Audit Teachers. Are The teachers. Are you afraid to go back to school back to the building how you feel about going back to work? I think it's everyone is is personal decision me myself I'm going to be honest I would actually prefer to be back in the classroom even if it was on like I just feel like you know kids just getting so much more on a one-to-one contact. However I do understand the severity of the nature but. I do like even if we as teachers could have just went back into the classroom and if the kids weren't there, I, just. will feel better about that versus being home in China to go virtually now ours When you're teaching the kids now, are you doing live sessions with like a group of them or is it a prerecorded? You record a lesson and then they just will watch it of course. No we're GONNA go live. It's going to be straight live. So when everything happened in March, you know everything happened so fast it was like boom. Friday. This is it. You know and when we initially would out, we would think in okay we're going to be out for a week. You know we'll come back or two weeks at the most so we We did packet we developed like I had like seventy. I did I put together a seventy five age mass packet, a fifty page language arts packet, and everything like that. So once we realized Oh, no, this is on a more permanent basis. Then we resorted to google classroom Google hangouts and things of that nature, but the problem with that was. It was guidelines. So we as teachers we would just like Konda making it up, trying to figure it out on our on you know so At this point now which is trying to. Like we need more structure on it. You know what? I mean. So we can put it together be more consistent parents need to understand that they have to sign their cades in you know what I mean. Yeah. The intentions part I think is really something that. Parents are either forgetting or the kids are getting. It's like confusing because our our Mike heads are using a program called like Ed genuity but it they're also using Google classroom, and then it's like the school is con- you know I think the problem is that too. It's like the school is constantly sending out these emails and I understand that they're trying to get everybody on the same page but then it's like some of the parents know how to like work the computer like do all this. So it's like we don't all these like constant emails and all this other stuff, and then it's like you miss. Or you have to log in all these places. I just wish everybody used the same thing now of questions speaking of that, we're going to let so it just. Save the parent. Doesn't have the laptop, the other school district provided laptops. And do. The. Laptop Bat or the kids keeping laptop. Provided chromebooks and Um. So if the parent makes us aware that there's you know that their child is indeed, they can definitely get. Proffer technology that they need to be successful now anything. They have to do just today they had some kids. California, they had to go to the TACO bell because they didn't have no wildfire creek. Yeah. Yeah, and it was In the TACO Bell. You saw that that like how does? Whole. Like blue. Ridge. Forget what we found out about. It gave one hundred, thousand dollars this year I forget what's coming Up. But yeah, they found out about. One hundred thousand dollars to get commitment you know and. That's awesome. So you would prefer to just go right back into when it's time to go back into the classroom and just do what you do with the kids. I mean, that's you know that's my. Personal preference the think about it is. There is no right answer you not like no matter how you slice it. Going somebody is going to be upset. With the answer also I mean I'm also a dilemma because I'm the I'm the mother of a three year old and a one year old. So my three old was supposed to start pre K. three. which she has to go virtually and so now I'm in a dilemma weren't trying to figure out how am I going to? Her. And also, I still have a one year old antique. Yeah. I didn't tell the kids. City kids go to school at three years old. was going to go to school. So we ted. Foliage. That they're learning up to speed with. Allows you to do and some of the parents at home they put up partitions for the kids like there was more than one kidney put partitions city. Do. Do you when you your kids obviously home. Yeah. Do you have partitions up how kids are? People that are doing those politicians are people that are doing Pandemic PA. Where it's like a community or group of like two or three families are. Hiring like a teacher earth tutor and then teaching them in their own home or in a couple of their friends home. So they're making partitions or things like that to keep them apart so. I. Don't know I think that's kind of like the same thing sending them to school rival lower to smaller group. I I don't know. I. Know you gotta go. For the socialization people even putting up tents outside their home with. The kids could be out of jail. I know I, know you see she's headed an. Option you hadn't school right now. I am. A teacher. Can't they? Could you make some money like? This this is school. Teachers to do that I. Don't know what that. Is. Any way. You can make a little few comes out on his side. How does that work? It's funny because I have been approached by people like you know about you know doing personal tutor, it is money into it and it is many. Fifteen hundred, I. Personally. I'm not interested because once I'm done I'm. On my children. Definitely, definitely what Comedy Center it because? A whole. Day. Other people's kids I'll come home want to deal with nobody else who cares how much they're paying? Intel these jokes. Making a lot of money nineteen years. Thanks people. Class days are usually shorter are the right before we can sit they're doing it right before before we get to the class just shortage of the day. Cine if I was a teacher like Gio. or I'll be out there hustling everyday. Second Grade. Rating. I I will go to camp. As that teachers are getting offered fifteen hundred to three thousand dollars four month per child what to do these pandemic pods teacher like two or three or four kids in the community Geel appreciate your integrity because. It. Made Sense, but also they don't have like the benefits to health benefits and all that other star. Trek kind of lose that security. The flexibility have shorter days. You know what? I'm saying you know exactly who you're working with you keep your own. In. Jail situation she has young kids so she really can't draw. The Gio if you didn't have your kids around the yesterday was. Still keep the day job. City still. Doing that. In the. Black. Strict you. Don't any of your co worker that might be hustling on his. I'm. Ashley No Co. Workers Everybody's street in vacation mode. So maybe once we are because we all have to be back on Tuesday. So maybe everybody some people minds that will change right now everybody just trying to get these last few days of relaxation and some. My coworkers I was looking on facebook. Say Martin. Wait a minute. Wait. Let me say. This, to make has done. It has made me wait my whole life. Thirty eight, thirty, eight, Hamma first baby and I was forty my second. Friends. Right. My friends in my college for his high school friends, they grandparents they kids going to college kids grow I like you know. Olsen. Pregnancy? They had. Same. Thing. I with. Highs hooliganism. How's he going to have a baby as now looking at me like? My Life. Right now. Babysitter girl. Godless you've been we let's talk. She's a true hero. Cranky one. Where can my folks fines you on? Don't give me. And really talk about the comedic part. 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They have a DJ on site also Friday and Saturday hit the smooths down of local artists featuring jazz or are being we stop and make sure you tell them to show show cinch Make. Sure. You tell them you WANNA show. Essentially, we are back Barbara colonus filled Fridays Friday. September fourth twenty, twenty, twenty, seven minutes, Labor Day weekend whatever that is or whatever it is. Every day is the same day since Kobe. Now. It's not. The first time we don't have weekends. Friday Monday. Monday every day. But a lot of people are back turn on. Twenty twenty. I don't think people will be back to normal like, wow, like today even feel Good Friday but sitting doesn't really feel like a Friday. Now, exactly Barbara does it feel like a? Third, kills I guess. Day every day is the same day I mean calendar stolen right? We know who September four but at the same time obstacle. Weekends every day that's what I'm talking about well. I know. Is I'm working. What. Still Twenty. I'm gonNA keep this going. Yeah to. Allow I. think that like. When a guy. That we hear to see like twenty twenty, January I, whatever data lands on. January. First I think that's when the clock starts all over again I'll hopefully. Visit Thursday. January first that'd be the Thursday and Friday, because we we none of us have never seen anything like this as far as the day. I'd never seen anything like this in my lifetime. What about you? Know that? Big that backpack that cracked running eighty seven. I don't even remember nine, thousand, nine, hundred. Eighty seven eighty eight. My kids. Like. I've never see I like this. Print this say what is that girl at the end of barbies commercial about this me is that. S You. Sean we was recorded a commercial. He was in the city of though we city. So we was in the act up. Commercial so Part and we was just joking up joking around and I guess they decided to keep that part in the commercials. Till roster. So. Barbie. going. Lose. was late. She. Wasn't even there. Had to say all right. Propose. and. Grow Up. No I'm not, growing up number. Why would I grow up at this point I made? So Party was doing the commotion it was sounded Great and we always going back and forth with these commercials. Right Francis and then when bobby was doing it. I was sitting off to the side and I go Barbie Hidden, one of those girls and all. Lanes and and Then, you know then I think she did one I ran up to the Mike and so Barbara. This is how you do it girl. Wrong kept that part I said he was acting up. So that's what happened. But actually let's club for Barbie that sounds great. That sounds. One of my. Fellow. Bill collectors I'll just we're just compensate you WANNA show semi Bob. Hello Hi Okay. Hi. Listening, good morning. Mining this is year be. Right this is right this artist Oh you're being. Let's. See She makes music. Song when she's finishing. About says, we have a Lotta guys. Feel, the Friday I feel good. First of all. Young lady this is this is a on on the proofs for you to call in. Thank you so much. Now you you're independent artists, right? I'm an independent artists from the Bronx. Yes. Of. Hold on this takes a whole `nother level now. I am from the Bronx New York. With a Legend SA- created. Home of all three baby off three my baby mamas senator. Roy. Homosexual eight. Now, being from the Bronx New York. I. What? What what kind of music do you? What kind of music do you think? This. music that I make I call it alternative aren't be world music because that was the thing in. Spanish is so. Awesome. Okay. I'll turn it is are in be yeah. All RV or I like that. I. Like. That I, like that I like and and how long you been singing. In. I'm not a good fifteen year. That's him. Yeah now cine as an independent artists. You got you have to be out in these streets and you. GotTa to be out here in these streets. Independent artist you have to be out I, mean prior to cocoa. Independent artists. Right independent artists like this young lady and all of us. Out there singing open mics whatever they gotta do right. So pre cocoa, how would you move in out here in these on be Around Rhode. Island that. Cover. Holy the we call it the cocoa cocoa. Let. Caro-. Ro. Ro. Karol Karol riders for like you've got to roll out to. Be something crazy. Keeping the back you don't use it every day. Pre Caro-. How was you moving in? These are our streets. Saw So my tactic was to go to you know an our meetings and like wherever there was a record label Gallo or I would go to ask casts you know events in La I was just do you know what? Wherever I saw people in the voice auditions x factor on visions Every any anywhere. I could be feed basically yet. That's NS. I'm looking I'm looking at a picture of you. Cindy we put it on a Roman shows over. You are a very, very attractive young laser. Eye. Girl. Everybody. Louis everybody. You know what's so weird is that y'all are on Y'all live on Facebook, right? And I'm on the phone. I got another is. It's a really nice picture you. Expect This is. Really. Nice. Off Cardigan. We would never get crazy pictures. You you look beautiful all your purchase of course. So You've been a SO-SO. Senate. She goes. Industry. And she finds way through that whole movement. Right. Before I know. Do you do any Casino. Do. Stand. Up. Are you doing? What are you doing? Doing like backyard singing. Warm. I, get right now actually because I can working from home and I've been like I'm GonNa work in education I would museum room and teaching these kids like it's been little interesting to do music stuff but I'm getting back to I have I have a show online at the folk museum in New York. So I think that's going to be my first. Hope Kovic Oh. Wow. That'll be really great and are the artists going to be there or is it just like a youth thing? Hello, I think. Three honor or something like that. For one second that was my foot more time. Okay I'M GONNA have my first post cove it. Online show Oh, I believe in October October ninth As, as a backup folk museum at the Focus Zero. PM where's that? That's a New York. is on my so everybody always. So younger we have to do face to face yet but. But I do feel confident that like one could put on like a part show but in New York where I am like the minimum gathering as head people. Like this. Who is One of them so The police, come and everything another happening. City like she's now she's in the same position on me. Yeah. There's no live performance because even though I personally don't like the zoom and all these be lies and performing in front of folks I did a car. Holiday. The thing with this is what the what the zoo with the. Even though she's alive, she's a live performer performance like myself in her once we thrive on the energy of the from. Now even if you do is zoom. conference. It's still you don't get that connection. If you something if you televise something, there's still people around you where you can feel some type of energy. So I know you're right singing but when I did narcotics anonymous convention. Zoom Conference. I. Don't know how it was. Telling jokes and laughing at the top of the plush. Start laughing. Because I don't know what they're reacting to. So you could hear they know. How we have the chat room and all that I didn't see none of that because I was in a little box. And I could I don't know what was going on. So I did some of my regular jokes that I knew that would be funny if someone was listening to it. But it was weird now for you. What? Are you all right with singing on because she's a performance that's all it is that you're. Doing zoom in. Or do you prefer live? Right. So so basically when I was using zoom teach these kids, I had no idea what I was doing was struggle. but then I only got comfortable into and one of the classes that I did do black music. black music You know a history class and I ended up singing. In that club and if say, let me tell you at the same time, you can't really see if people are enjoying themselves on basically very isolated you just by these. By. Yourself it is very weird. Sin Is very weird I mean everybody. With the new. Is. Being a singer. It's almost like recording us all. Yeah. I would imagine but you still ain't. Now, the music you don't really need people's feedback you're. Putting it out, right? No doubt. Dan You want them I agree with you even in the studio you got people around you like certain energy. Daikin. Sydney this woman sounds. She has a great personality. Yes. Sound like like you a lot of fun. And she. insists. Sydney. Do you have top relationship like how does that work you have a boyfriend you married. You I you know. She's struggled. Round. She thought this. Interview about singing we don't do that ask. So are you are you currently because? You know you know that In. My comedy career bargain. I I dated a a singer. And this is this is this is a singer that was in the disco era that had a song. Oh She's still popular today. And dated her? Believe me anyways every time I see some. Right about. Three minutes, lady like our while Sean US, right? So. Yes. Is Out. Singer, right This is Barbie. Singing all the time. We couldn't even smash. With you in dating. Is this a singing or the whole part of the relationship? Like singing all the time when you your man or we're like, he's going back. I am I, seeing all the time you singing in the housing singing I. I am constantly singing. But. Sometimes you get so busy like you forget. But then when I sing I'm like Oh man I, can do this and it feels so good when I do it I actually right like. A thaw I try to write a song like almost every day. Wow and I. It it suicidal. Thing. Boyfriend. Just make time for the that she wants as long as a person is the line. City. Hockey's write songs everyday relations. Right because it comes to you and. You know she could just be. A Lotta independent artists jd they do a lot of backup singing. Have you ever did? Singing for like a major. You ever do any singers when you. Find A way. You know there's a lot of that going right right. You know what? Because I'm a because I'm not only a singer songwriter and I think I'm. I feel like I'm a songwriter first and then I'm a singer actually and I feel like I. took my time soup, affect my rhymes and oh I've been concentrating on songwriting and I think that that's where my. My Gold ticket is and I think that because I do that I focus on my thong basically but I I'm not singing background for people I use that time to like this just right right. That's where the money's. Right. Right. So let's get to that so so Bring can sing them right because you don't have to find somebody to sing it to pitch it. You'll know good point. So A. Right. It's a more lucrative to be a songwriter singer. You know. What. H Pence on your hustle and and it depends on the people that you know in the music industry is definitely good to wear many different hats. So as as lucrative to be multiple things including your own producer which I produce and I. Use Logic? And I know how to use the micro and I'm actually a certified. In years. Yeah. All. You need to. Get people to work with you can be like. Right get out right you're fired. Right but she won't back there will be no backup thing. So. In this in you taken advantage of because you know a lot of singers bobby, they could sell your. Music online now. You can. Yes. Online. soundcloud. Like do like soundcloud and stuff. I am on everything I'm on Soundcloud I'm on I along bossy five anywhere where they allow. You just tell me was. Allow me to sell music and outer space that probably be right. because. Now. The difference between the spotify in the world and those marketplace cj where you can listen to music and purchasing doubt that's that's where we live in and that's I do that as well. But here on this show saying what because we're going to play her song at the interview? And then we reach back not. Cine okay. On a show like this, you get the real time reaction to the song would add up to. Yes right sitting sitting this is not like because we got folks we've got thousands of folks listening. Here. The song and we. Man, comparison to go to the marketplace in Oh that's hot. Let me hear it. So that's a big difference. So GonNa, we're GONNA showcases songs we you know we're gonNA wrap it up and Talk to you talking to you and we appreciate your call, and then we're gonNA play your song. But the fun thing about this here sending is that this would be an in real time. Yes I'm excited to hear A. Call. Me as well. So where can you sound what is this? Did she know the song about. This is gonna I'm GONNA. I'm. GonNa I'm GonNa have introduced to some. You sound really fun. Yeah I WANNA GO Hang out what are you doing today right now Cindy like you always hang out in Bob US will get the beautiful women hanging out like this type of young lady sitting in the lounge with right? Yeah. The why couches we do everything I. Talk about a song and relationships is like small talk, let's see like this is the kind of women that would be. Definitely. Yeah you a city, she would be dominant. We were talking about your personality type of person can hang out with. Yes you see. DISOL- we about the play can you share? With the song is about and inspiration. So this song I voted two years ago And you know it's relevant and I always say that it's a shame but it's going to be relevant for a while because it's about you know. At least brutality. So I voted to use ago because. I. Was like man. So I want to write about this subject and hasn't yet and and it just came to me like like a poem like a story like I am in visiting things happening while I'm driving you know what I mean. Until I get stopped like that's. Kind of the story that I'm envisioning and and I was, and it's a true life experiences I mean from all of my friends that it has happened to from my dad being stopped when I was a kid, you know in the backseat and. And you know things could have went differently had I maybe not been in that back then a child you know while the of stopping him like you never know. and like my my I guess my idea was like, wow, like even if I'm putting my hands up. You're not seeing that you're seeing my color as a weapon already. So you've already pulled the trigger in your mind. So. We're can wiccan Wiccan we saw what was the first of all what's the name of the? Name of the song is called hand up. We Akin everyone find your social media. You can find me an my name is kind of interesting and don't feel bad if y'all the wrong but I'm GONNA help you. At your be music and if you're be like furby but with a wide. Okay. Music and ends with a wise starts of the why urban the. Middle. That's great. That's great. So this Is My real name Ya. That's a great family is Dominican and they people. I. Guess they. Less cloud. Four, come, on everybody. To take, we don't do it like a one second pause and we're gonNA play your song. Okay. Thank you. We really appreciate you calling in Komo. Now can come into the room and you could see and you can. Do All right now? Every morning show. Let's clap for Europe. So excited about to hear hands up hands up. On the shown. Song Right, now and this shows. Hold on. Hold on. Hold hey coming hold on. trip. Yeah. Just focus. Yahoo. craziest song right now. down. It's common. Said Man who? You. Do. ME. Guilty you. and. Slow. Is. Very Buddha take. Bullets. Ready to see. season. He. was. Guilty. 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Say the whole lot of money since I got a relationship that was it was not. Got Yeah who else me have building Sean beaming goal is here good morning girl hey, hey, who we have in the bills in Jennifer Hey Jack chat remember of the week. Chat Room member of the week Chambal. Seemed like it went by. Right Jennifer because they appreciate it. You a great because city is still the same day. Last Friday is this Friday yeah. Tom's move it. Really. went by fast but not Jennifer Mickael says she oh, I got worse short. He made me. Day I'd become hold on. Hold the. Whole. DOLLA. Enough with the love fest in. Mikhail rather appreciate I'm not hating I'm the one advocated for this as. I said, we're GONNA ride together. Young Man. An need to the same at all top stop with the love Fest I need you get folks into the chat room the listen to the shelter. He did he got to people you don't know if they're in the chat. You know this is where you get you morning started, right God bless a mad at you with that now just like everyone. Rocking that chat room glow. If he walking the net chat rooms just like everybody else you got put out. A. Sam. Over there, you got all these people. Love God, the God bless I'm. Not I need you out there. Gets People's off to the show he is. said, he got many ear research Japan is working. Hand Washington. Hey girl working here. Hey. Well. Never to high pools. Instead with this work. Work was sitting here. It's like it's like Yankee, stadium, y'all these line. Kick. Out About. Like. Not So. Permanent Sutton. We're not turning on the lights. About twenty. Five? then. I'll turn the lights out. Rome the building. Role. Text me now you want me to. Do. It. Casino. Royale to shut this whole. That yes. Thank. Diane Hall is here what's up Diane Diane Meka, farmers and the Bill Mickael? But necessary thrown is here. Hello. Brian Sykes the troublemaker. Brian Derek Jackson and the bill and what I'm Deborah. Ram Mr Sensational Halla is here what's real well, real tiny not coming to the city. Because I saw yourself. So Moves Man Oh, my God and that all use dancing. That I love this. This dance. We all need to go hang out with sauce I, can't really do meringue. A little less? To New York. At some point in this whole situation. Let's get down. With some Latin music and out there. Is hitting these streets. Crazy. See His. House. On facebook dancing with this Latino female he getting it. And Mississippi. Doubt. The beautif Oh, the one, and only the Godfather Comedy Miss Tina Graham is here. Shoutout. Patina Hey. Good Morning. Second, celebrity for new. That's right. But not just popped in the building when I want to apologize to put. I was talking to knock over the phone yesterday afternoon, rush them off the phone. And I want to apologize to you because it was one of those abruptly he was talking I gotta go I haven't with that. Were falling. y'All. Know but still that's my man I felt bad. But Not I. Truly Apologize I should've never Russia of the phone like that love death, I apologize. Okay. shutouts, our girl, your she in building. European. Hanger. Up Hey, girls don't show right. Real quick. Yes. y'All voiced out neuroma Volvo giants said Haibo how good morning to you know Roma Hager Carl, D is here with up Carl That's your real. Name is that Muslim it was moving so fast, I couldn't quite. Hey welcome in. Tokyo What was his show? How'd you hear Prejudge National Radio? Chris W was ended build hey. Chris. Chris. Shamgar Chris Jacob DJ favor Marshall is here hey jakup. Is New he said he needed to. That, you'd be songs so. How how? Did. You know why you know purchased the song to because I, know Dj's got a pool of music that they purchased multiple stores once a but every once in a while you know support the artist. You love the song before you say, need that song support the artist pay for it. 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He said how many episodes have we? I don't know tracy episodes of what our show hundreds but if you think if we've done one right like every day. For five days five days for like three years. that. Say like over eight hundred episodes always say to three million. You're watching nine hundred episode. and. If you want to go through some real light would be been in some situations show too. I. Like when we get back, all those videos are going to be deleted. Like those shows some crying. Crying some threatening. You better get your. Labor Day. Thank. ACID. Delete. Stuff. IS A. Matter. At least. Here hello. Lisa this ago mass most likely probably Latin Bronx New York's Lisa Gomez I'm just I don't even notice persons. I'm in this university she loves the Black Man Lisa Gomez loves the black man probably have one baby. Follow. The black sheep blackmail. She. How does she probably have relationships with the Latino man but she really loves the Black Man had one black man in her life wouldn't be surprised. He has a black baby fall but she loves the Urban Lisa. Let me know because I know who you are. Name. Okay she number one if you love the black men number two if you had the baby fall but as a black man number three, if you had the Latino man and then you switched over to urban continual. Bella Andrews is here good morning. Beautiful our you today. Hey Della House Robin how is Robin Darwin let us know? Yes. Unless she said she was having a procedure, but let us know has. How In the building. Hey Hey. Good Lordy. Not at all not want to play with. The Girl I, was. Joking. Holly. How MIGHT LOSE THREE LISTENS She's done before. Be Nice. Ransom listeners that we? Haven't seen them. Out of the CMO's date blocked me. I called in here and check the few people. You can't do that. This is a show that we're doing. 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A Hello Jane influence go Joe Jackson is in the building what's up angel? and. I believe I have everyone. Those are all the names that I see. Wow, that's lie. You can say job. Do here city. Forget about the announcement. Cine going to announce the chat room member of the week. because. To show almost over we on some hours. And we WANNA do it now cj because sometimes when we do early Sherry by run out. Lee. No, we want. We want you. If we hanging out here we want to hang out here with us. At the end the right? Yeah. You're around they'd be like I. Wasn't me again? I'll leave. No. How about you wait? Sit Out I think you're. Absolutely. Yeah. That's a real good announced the chat room member the week we're gonNA play the song. Then we'll go to a break and then we get into front page news J.. Before all that. Do. Not. Get Out of here sitting we're going to announce the chat room member of the week and remember this to say Prince Cox no pause black heart is the original on Northfield new to the show because bobby and said he's Not. Even one time city even disputed the fact that Britain is. Wasn't even I remember week. That was so tissue spent I still have a show. So when you come a name like that, what's so bobby at the counter three we are going to now. I mean. We Bob at the. Fact. Like how did virtually? The MIC is yours work. Cine Ready. To three Nicole hair red. Hair. Member of the week. Chatroom. Chat. Chat through the. Week Hey. Gentlemen to. Hey. Turn. Around the. We take. Carrot. Herod. Harry. Aga- we. Hey. Were weekend. Coal. Goal. War. We came. Through the other week came A. Coal Hair. Hair gold. Member, as a week, Hey, you're chat room. Jam. Goto. You. Didn't see that one coming up. You may make or. Check. Congratulations to you, Sanjay, we'll be right back. 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Hey Hey who who? Go for. The Best Go. To. Give it go ahead. Cocoa. Nine to mess with cocoa say nine to mess with cook or give them in. NAP. FOCO. I. Cocoa. Vira saying that a mess with Coco was saying that that a mess with come. Out. Oko. Okay Yeah I. Have a great day go. ooh, who put a given here Debris. I that diverge putting the get. No I can't see it. How did you do that? Don't worry I'll find out hitting. Donates show. Do. Ground. You. Right. Zia. Gomez row. That's what he's doing. Yeah. She said he said Okay So. He's single. A city. Is a feel good. I feel good. We all everybody off on Monday. Yet for the Labor Day weekend. Need a brain right we need a break even though we had three. We do you're right? Because I can get five foot, five, eight border actually. Because of Good Friday you know as Princess Pause Blackhawks, we asked for donations for the show. Cash up as Harvey Morning Feel Free to donate to the show keep the doors open city. GonNa do right now we're GonNa hit the Kim asked if you're losing weight. Are you feeling okay. Are you losing anyway? Just might be the tango. Hold on I DID LOSE ABOUT THREE POUNDS Okay trying to stay a certain way why I said we don't want you to lose told my Sean. Not Sitting. At people are going to start especially switching blackhawks. I don't want to I. That No. No doubt. That for. Fifty five years old I need. You need to keep. The key I need to keep. Always had an athletic body. At taken their. Lost Twenty Pounds Wear heavy. God. Bless you do look. Better. Thank you and say my whole thing is this at this age. Those meeting Jesus years. And I just want to be his best shape as I can. So I I kind of you know I don't know. Now. I eat. I eat the rabbit. Spinach and Do. But like. Just that eat like two or three fried eggs. Sunnyside. L. Right we'll little run. On don't flip it over sometimes I do sometimes it depends on how I feel like eating now sold on pepperoni. And then I eat spinach. Twice, a day. And like tomatoes, onions eat lots of vegetables twice a day. And then at night, I might eat the regular food. And that's what A lot of at this as a lot of vegetables seniors. Well. Kim He is losing weight Aloe. Three pounds. I WANNA get to. One. One Eight, hundred. Okay. I'm I'm. I'M I'm like A. Ninety. Yeah I'm the, books. Cats. One nine yeah. Yeah. If you. Keep doing what you're doing. Looking City says. This. Would meeting. I really don't eat this really nothing spectacular. I don't really do it I just. Okay Papa. Thanks can I? Thank. You can. Okay. I can't do six nine tool for that so much. Yeah you can. John Jay good exercise. Twice a week maybe. Tyler Perry is A. A BILLIONAIRE WITH A. Billionaire. Yeah he's just been officially named billionaire by Forbes after his network jumped again and you'll be shocked at the breakdown according to Forbes the entertainment. Mogul has a net worth. has went up and made him one of the wealthiest people. It's one of the reasons for his wealth is due to the fact that he owns one hundred percent of his creative output, which includes hundred episodes of television twenty, two feature films. Yes he out that's how you got to put twenty two feature films at least two dozen stage plays them stage. got to see own stay was so different and live like when you go see a lot of. Different. I'm just saying like you own the stage play and you put it out there in St Right? You're working every weekend, own it you own a TV everything they keep putting out content. That's like we do every day we put now content you have to put it out there. For people that you'll be, you got all this stuff. Let's make this happen now. Right salute the Tyler Perry and putting black folks to. Love historic because he went from a poor homeless main to Beijing. So it's like a rat true rags. Hurry. He has been paid Also said that he's been paid one and a half billion in pretax revenue since two thousand five when he introduced the world movies like Medea series. So he's he's had money in investment. He now owns a three hundred and thirty acres studio near Atlanta, which now a bunch of other people are doing a project. So a ton of creative projects, including other production companies, paying him to use the location and just his land alone is worth two, hundred, eighty, million, right, and he was also able to leverage his massive content holdings to make a huge deal with Viacom CBS set will pay him one hundred and fifty million a year for new content gives him an equity stake in bt plus which is a new streaming service that also launched this year. They have some really good movies on there. I. Am the free trial of that for right now and Trials. We're not anymore now you. Start subscribing. A. Bitcoin. Also tag on sixty billion dollars for his ownership. Has. To private jets. He owns homes in La Atlanta new. York. And Jackson Hole Wyoming and of course, has to private jets, his houses and planes and other as assets totaling forty million. He also allowed Megan markle and Prince Harry to stay at his mansion when they first came over. For a little bit. In which they amend you know but then Paparazzi found out where they were they had to move. And you know. So he's joining other people. Your point. Four nine. Isn't that weird. They'll like he wakes. Everybody knows. The love that he had for the community do the whole Walmart. As every. Bless this new title. Hero in our community God. Bless you. A Ham. Also, recipe shutout to Chadwick Bozeman and his family. He was actually reportedly prepping to film. Black Panther sequel. A week before his passing Disney now is uncertain how to proceed with the film. Only Chadwick was he was convinced that he was going to be colon cancer If you all know he that was something that he was struggling with for the past four years and his they actually said that his mom was one of the people that told him to. Keep it a secret like to keep it to himself because they felt like he grew up in Anderson South Carolina Very. Humble. Beginnings. And I felt like you know he he kind of took it onto himself. His mom's advice because he felt like he didn't want that to get in the way of doing his work wanted to constantly put out things that perpetuated a great image His agent was even saying about how he turned down roles to do like slave roles and other things like that because he didn't want to continue perpetuating. That image and he wanted to just do things that would always uplift the community inspire young black boys and girls. Do, credible things be a superheroes even talk about how he turned down a liquor deal because he said I can't be acting like a superhero on them promote something like this. So just you know his moral compass how he lives as a person who just truly amazing. Tougher. Your Chad. Just another. In Our community man is just People. We all talk about his movies but let me tell you something in Prince's Cox pause black in the chat room. Yeah He. We. Know all the movies. But let me tell you something. He played a hell of a role in the movie draft day. Draft had never seen that I know. Exactly. What it is and a lot of folks. No, he was earlier movies. He played a Kevin Costner was a GM of the. Cleveland browns football team. Okay. And it was draft day you know how to pick the number one collegiate. Yeah and chat with was like he was young. In the draft. Pick me on that. Guy. I don't. Follow in. The whole world told, Kevin. Costner's character we gotta go with the quarterback. Right, and when it was draft day. They picked Chadwick's character, Oh my God, and you should see the scene he in the crib because his agent was like we don't know if you're going to go in first row, maybe the second round goes maybe the second round you serious. So when the whole families. 'cause they watch it on TV because he's not not physical draft because you don't know when he was getting big. Cost character picked him number one in the trap and his reaction was priceless as actor. That's what make the rate. But a lot of people don't know that go watch the movie draft I know his hat to see this movie. Why did you say yes watch the movie draft day and see how how he puts this working. Wow we're gonNA watch today that sounds like really good He was convinced that he was going to be colon cancer and be able to gain the weight back. He needed in order to film the sequel to the record. Breaking, Film back, Black Panther this sequel to the two thousand, Eighteen Academy Award winning film was set to go into production in March and Chadwick was even scheduled to begin preparing for the film beginning this month now Disney scrambling and completely uncertain on if or how it should proceed with the planned sequel Bozeman. Is the central character of the film and it would make no sense to have it without him and the city Oh, could recast but fans are very attached to Chadwick in the role and placing another actor in the role of Challah. Likely won't be received well. Black Panthers. Now, it's a billion dollar film franchise and now finds itself without a star chat with Steph also impacts the entire marvel film universe given that the Black Panther character was scheduled to appear in other interconnected fill right justice shadwick already had done in captain America's. Two thousand eighteen thousand ventures and the last one which is a vendors endgame. Disney sources say the company is processing. It's grief and focusing on paying tribute to Chadwick instead of a Black Panther, sequel at the moment, only a handful of non family members that he was actually sick. Including producing partner Logan Kohl's longtime Michael Green. It's trainer and forty two director Brian Hell Gwynne. Varying degrees of knowledge about the severity of his. So they kept it private and he has he has that right? Yes. So Stella's his private and it's great that the people around him you know didn't leave permission. So. You know again, another hero God bless him and his family, and let's let's one more time because this. What be Goldberg said the other day she thinks that they should make a park and Disney, for him I will Kanda themed Park's should do that. That would be awesome to see something like that. So Chateau. So cine lists go right into one quick news story if you don't mind. Okay, and then we do quick sports and then I think. We. Got It. This one quick. Very quick. Song be so quick comment on. Well take. A local story and feel good for me. The legalization of recreational marijuana was brought up yesterday discuss by local leaders. This is for Pencil Vania Governor Tom, Wolfe and Lieutenant Governor John fetterman argued for marijuana's legalization urging the generally assembly to do. So of course, only for adults they said the legislation would direct money toward cove in nineteen recovery providing funds for grants to help historically disadvantaged businesses and create more outlets for restorative justice initiatives. It said it should be used for is the greater good right. Now, it's going into the pockets of drug cartels. There's a thriving cannabis market here in Pennsylvania the problem is unregulated it's illegal it's underground and none of those revenues are going into our treasuries. He said if you're telling me, we're facing three and a half billion deficit, and we have the opportunity to create a never ending revenue stream in perpetuity. That is something we should do. It's unclear whether the Republican led legislature will go for the legalization of recreational marijuana. But the House majority leader recently responded to the governor's entire fall legislative agenda and he called it disingenuous to require taxpayers to bail him out of his unilateral mandates that have devastated lives and livelihood. Excuse me, sir, you mean, by keeping US safe. By keeping these masses closed in limiting. Mr. Republican. Led House majority leader whatever you are. The mayor of Chardonnay. Jones of believe this transform the economy, and then she says when it comes to balancing the budget helping with some businesses and the community that needs to sustain themselves, our communities will lose their identities if they don't get helping me. What you need to do trying to legalize. All right. Let's go. Cigarettes. Like I said I know you tried once but if I If you WANNA try I might try. Right. If you WANNA smoke. I don't smoke. Lonnie Smith's or something you shouldn't be doing anything like that Sean So. Why do you have the car? Give me. Your card. I. Didn't even want the car. They gave it to me basically. Because you've got you've got. Helps. US It. Using. The. Things like that I. Feel anything you can get a topical CBS. Four your knee and I bet you won't need those quarter Roy shots whatever you dating anymore. Sean shot shot stop doing that Bro, use the. Barbie? True. This. Sign McCall has been arrested in accused of pimping. Girl Arizona girl. Getting. My base keep kicking me. Mike is. He is the son of a former. NFL coach Lonnie Smith Map. He was underlying he worked under Lonnie as the assistant assistant coach, right? They coached the Arizona. Oh let me. Go. The CHICAGO BEARS AND TAMPA BAY buccaneers. He was book Thursday for a slew of STERBAN charges. Official has told TMZ sports that Smith is facing everything from pander in another word for Pumpkin along with receiving earnings from a prostitute and sex trafficking. Yes. So He This story is live ongoing, right? Also facing charges of money, laundering and conspiracy. The details are found surrounding the case it's unclear. TMZ is working to bring more. Info as we get as it can get to develop McKell was a farm, a former college football player at University of Arizona back in the day before he cited coach with his father. Wow That's amazing. Okay. You Maceio, he is the his father was ex-. Nfl Coast Lonnie Smith whoever lobbyists. We just go because we got a guy a few last night the Toronto Raptors played the Boston Celtics and the Raptors one by one point your one, all four to one, zero three and the Celtics leads the series to a two one, the Denver Nuggets played La Clippers and the Clippers won one, twenty, two, Ninety, seven, and they are leading the series one, two, zero, two, zero. Right those are your sports they bobby. Thank you so much. Probably we can. You find Yuck families, facebook streets, Barbie Cologne or facebook. Barbie Cologne designs on Instagram and Barbie stylist on. INSTAGRAM. Yes you guys can find me on facebook sunny underscore Jay on instagram and semi Jay on. snapchat. FACEBOOK COMEDIAN SEAN Harvey on facebook awfully is the Grand God. Bless all you folks or the Good Friday who's on chat remember weeks any Nicole Harris class for her. Those down so We're you guys on Tuesday? Footy holidays again, we love you guys. We're GONNA rush. Channel Barbie remember when we started the show, we went to church yet go back to church. Friday okay. We love you to death put your emojis in put your heart emotions in there. I want know what you guys are grateful for it on a Friday take that into the weekend we want to show you guys so much. So we're GONNA take the church right now God bless each every. Church? Let's go. Along. Donations. Ambulance Sean. Don't. So. Make sure you're. Sitting in there. But those voters off. Anybody else choice. Harvey? Warner. Selfless. To. League. G.. O.. Scott. Perceive. Pain. We got. Paola. Bill thank you. Thank you. On. Report today. I WANNA do. is on the way. I could feel the right now. Reposing. All the way. This a long. Look. Send it back. Doc. Grateful today. All right. This is keen. And this is how you play. You pick up to ten numbers out of eighty.

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