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"david frum" Discussed on Stay Tuned with Preet
"There are people on in the public discussion. Who obviously don't agree with her about her looney views who hate it when she has criticized. And why why is that. Why is that important. The why why would personalities on television and radio in the house. Why would they rallied her. Because they understand that. What i'm about to say i'm so sam rayburn who was speaker of the house in the nineteen fifties famously refused even to speak to freshman members of the house of representatives because he used to say the american people will elect anybody to anything wants so there have always been low grade people in the house of representatives and they got they got either winnowed away or they improve themselves or or the or. The party pressured them to come into line with american norms. What is strange agreed is. It's not just that. She's a crank in a weirdo. And a self promoter and obviously someone with them and just not only crazy views but a detestable personality. Who would who would harass. Young people had been through a school shooting the way she did but she is the problem. Here is she's not just a fluke thing that happened because she was strong in her district. She actually moved that. She's not a native of Georgia she moved there. I'm she is a product of the Right we ecosystem and the part of the ecosystem this terrifying fox and making it more crazy since the election because crazier than fox and mccarthy is frightened of that ecosystem that ecosystem is where donald trump draws his strength. and so. if you're going to fight with marjorie. Taylor green you are fighting with a much bigger sata social forces and ultimately those forces will draw you into confrontation with donald trump's if you're if you want when you're ready for that fight if you choose that fight that's what you're choosing. And that's that's why it was so remarkable that liz cheney others did what they did because they were not just picking on one weirdo freshman. Congressperson they were challenging the whole permission structure out of which donald trump came and ultimately trump himself. Who talks to march taylor green and promoted her going to ask you another version of a question i asked before. It's a parallel question. Shouldn't shouldn't there be more or less cheney's on this point. Are you gonna do. Are you going to do the glass half full thing again. No i'm going to say there. I think that republicans need some need to learn through some adversity and right now in politics parties people say why don't the republicans do this but modern parties don't have leadership the way they used to do and they are agglomerations of self seeking individuals and so the incentives that each member of each politician has a very different from what would be in the interest of the group. And it's it's hard mechanisms to make the group work until you invent those mechanisms again. Reinvent them so you know there. I think a lot of members of the house who The list cheney. That's why she kept her leader position. But they don't wanna say so because think of all the people you have to tangle with. I guess there's one issue that is reflected in the popularity in some circles. Marjorie taylor green. That also is implicated in the crisis with respect to the corona virus. That have trouble figuring out. And that is the nature of expertise the alienating of from expertise this progressive idea which i have fairly complicated relationship with that ordinary people don't know anything and can't understand what the right thing to do is because science is king and we must defer certain political decision making. This is the argument that some people would make. We must defer political decision making to the so-called experts scientists doctors and everyone else and there are people even on the progressive side. I suppose you could say professor. Michael sandel has been a guest on. The show has talked about this. There is something alienating to a lot of people if you over exalt expertise saying that by the way is a little bit of heresy on the liberal side. How do you think about expertise. How politicians talk about expertise and defer to it. Well i you may have something non problem on your hands. I have an article going in the atlantic and in a few days That makes the point. The americans inherited a political system that is based on distrust of the emotionalism. Irrationality of the majority and hyper confidence in the wisdom of the select few especially people Especially especially nervous of the un property people who live in cities and great confidence in property. People live in the countryside. And that's why we have the senate and the electoral college and so many other similar institutions but in fact for the past decade. What we've seen is the american majority has consistently showed itself moderate sensible and it has been the minority that in the minority drawn from the places where the founder of the most confidence as behave like crazy people. I mean it was back in two thousand eleven when the question was should the united states default on its debt to prove a point or should it pay its debts and preserving its credit and the american economy in the world economy. Big majorities the american people and we're on the side of the debt and it was a fanatical minority. Who said let's see what happens if we don't end through the coronavirus questions like masking You have the majority has happily deferred to leak medical expertise. It's it's been a reactionary minority that has been Resistant and you know on the question of violence. I looked this up the other day. Seventy percent of americans. America basically a pro gun majority seventy percent of americans say guns have no place in public buildings or at polling stations. The big majority understands. There's no place for political violence in elections There's a minority. Who thinks so the idea that there is some kind of mass of the people who are disaffected from expertise disaffected from paying debts and wearing masks in airborne epidemic and not bringing guns to political. Now that's where the majority are so we're talking about this reactionary minority there the issue and i think one of the things we need to do and this is the point. An this has been a place where i've shafted. My view is the we need to see the country. We need to see it as it is i. I remember being in germany just before twenty eighteen election and talking to journalists and he was telling me but his travel got a big budget travel the united states and he told me where he was going. Please tell me you're not going to write borough vigna and of course he was. Please tell me you're going somewhere where there isn't a grain silo and he wasn't so why don't you go to santa. Monica in store soul cycle an interview. People there he's talked to my wife's friends by the forgotten. Americans them that the real country the real country. You know you're going to get you know you're going to get mail for this and i'm gonna okay so the washington post The washington post did a feature I quoted one of my books called in trump country. No one's concerned about the russia that matter as the beginning of the russia and they've they found someplace in wilmington ohio and so look at the population of that county had a smaller population in the westwood neighborhood of los angeles. The place where all the reports go luzerne county. Pennsylvania at salina vetoes Selena zito stomping grounds. So many articles were deliver their. That's bigger. that's population happened. 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"david frum" Discussed on Stay Tuned with Preet
"John kelly chief of staff you know the truly heroic rule is the guy who goes over the goes on the mission knowing. He probably won't come back that the people that people like john. Kelly sacrificed their reputations and part of their soul In an effort to try to keep the country on some kind of footing. And it's an it's an egg. I mean most of the people in trump orbit weirdos and creeps and fanatics and crooks there were people of conscience and john. Kelly was and they got chewed up and compromised and they paid a terrible price but someone had to do the job. You make of the top republican in the house in coming out of a meeting with gregg with representative green. The newly elected conspiracy theorist cunanan supporter and mispronounce. The name of that group cunanan. I think it'd be helpful if you could hear exactly what she told. All those denouncing q. On i don't know. If i say right i don't even know what it is And he's an intelligent guy. Well you know. Say this. And i get in trouble. I i've been in places where he has been with her. No cameras and microphones and he strikes me as a different kind of person. He doesn't strike me as an imbecile. No which he's. But he's no mitch mcconnell. I mean he's not playing. He's not doing chest problems in his but he but he knows exactly what he's doing and i guess you know and i think this is a non. This is a nonpartisan observation. It's one thing to be conservative or not. It's one thing to believe in conspiracy theories or not. It's another thing to just insult. The basic intelligence of average americans. And think that you can come out and pretend that you don't even know what the issue is. I don't know why. I don't know that moment struck me as one of his worst moments. And what is it about the psychology of someone who is a leader in the republican party. That causes him to a base himself in such a pathetic way. What i think he's. He's not a real leader He doesn't have a plan and he's he's dealing with this problem. That remember we talked about the resorting of the political system. So when you go through the districts that historically have been the most republican districts of the country. They have moved decisively into the democratic column over the past half decade The The district that was george h w bush district in that he wanted the sixties and stayed republican from sixty six to twenty twenty eighteen. That's a democratic district. Newt gingrich's former district as a democratic district. Eric cantor's former district is a democratic district the district on the south bank of the potomac river that had been repub republican for sixty six years leading to twenty eighteen. It's democratic so the the way you would traditionally to balanced your caucus in the house as you would have these of affluent suburban bush romney republican type districts. And then you would have these more rural more exorbitant farm districts and you try to thread your way so mccarthy's dealing with a party that has been getting stronger and stronger in rural america in White america in parts of america where people suspicious of the global economy. Where things aren't working. Health problems are worst and this. Just dying in the Prosperous dynamic parts of the amount of america. The republican party was based when he began his political career so he doesn't know how to manage this party and one option is just to say you know what we are going to be the party of kentucky and oklahoma. We'll be the william jennings bryan party but that's a path to permanent minority stacks. The other is to find some way to reconnect to the districts. Where romney was strong with bill. Clinton was strong The district's at spring back swing back and forth with moderate republicanism and rob modern democrat party. But he doesn't know how to do that if you do that. You provoked the ire of donald trump and fox news. It's a heart. It's an objectively very difficult problem. And you would need to be very cunning person with a lot of leeway in your party in order to solve it. And and mccarthy is not that i yeah i just wonder if sometimes the psychology is some version of people like kevin mccarthy thinking mistaking shrewdness for for cowardice. Or the think they're being clever and they're threading the needle and really bottom line is just being cowards. Well my my my advice is something carthy which is different from my advice to My much younger friend would be when you're faced with a really difficult. Political problem is very hard to see. What is the shrewd thing to do the right thing. Yeah i agree with that agree with that. I mean that that's how i felt about. You know the the first controversy over whether or not donald trump should be impeached. And where to go in there was a lot of discussion about what's wise. What smart politically. It was still the middle of his term. And if you don't know your best bet is to do what you think is right and what you think. Your duty obliges you to do We'll be right back to my interview with david from after this. So can we talk about that. One particular weirdo again. I'm using your term marjorie taylor green and you know. I don't think i need to recite for our audience because we talked about it before but she is among other things. Someone who's questioned. Whether or not i mean flatly questioned whether or not a plane flew into the pentagon nine eleven whether the parkland shooting happened whether the sandy hook shooting happened and a host of other terrible things you know. I won't even get into the space laser thing and you tweeted a few days ago. Quote the green debate meeting the debate. About marjorie taylor green. The green debate is a proxy for debate about trump. I think everybody understands that especially her anti anti green defenders and quote. What what.
"david frum" Discussed on Stay Tuned with Preet
"Argument. President trump's team were disorganized. They did everything they could to talk about the question at hand and when they talked about it they kind of glided over it almost as if they were embarrassed of their arguments now mom an impartial juror and one size doing a great job and the other side's doing a terrible job on the issue at hand as an impartial juror. I'm going to vote for the side. That did the good job. Is that something about which given where you stand. That's a good thing. And it's a great thing that at least one senator switched or the way i think about it is. Why didn't more switch like mitch. Mcconnell for who by the way it's reported never wants to speak to donald trump again must believe donald trump is ruining and destroying the republican party. And yet even he. After trump is out of office couldn't vote. Would i think is the obvious. Correct right way on the constitutional question. Well let me go down. A little historical path. Did this in the article. You'll love sport. Why does the united states have an impeachment as the remedy for abuse of power. Alexis de tocqueville thought. It was a bad idea. And why is the impeachment tried in the senate of all places and the answer is that when the authors of the seventeen eighty seven devised this system. They had a good idea or a clear idea of what they thought. House of representatives would look like it would look like one of the colonial legislatures that they knew so well. Rough la- very loosely derived from the house of commons in england And it would be placed a factions. And it'd be place a political point of view that it exactly anticipate parties but there are already in their time. Strong factions in colonial legislatures. Ended those comments. But they didn't know what the senate was going to look like in their mind was kind of a blur of a little bit of the british house of lords. A little bit of the roman senate. That's the romans hemsworth. The advise and consent function comes from that senate was sort of a partner of the executive branch of the roman republic or so they understood it with the books they had available to them at the time. So they imagine the senate as a place that would be somehow apart from politics that could exercise judicial role and would be voice. That could dispassionately injudiciously here and way allegations of wrongdoing. So they got that wrong. Senator not be a partisan body just like the house of representatives and so it's never functioned as a good place to do trials and for that reason in our time the impeachment eve of subordinate officials. And we've had judicial impeachments but mostly the system jackson says you know what if a judge takes abroad usually what happens is it's left to the federal department of justice under the public integrity rules That that you helped to enforce their two dozen public integrity cases a month of the federal department of justice federal and state so the senate doesn't really work as a judicial body. i it's. It's not how you would do it if you were doing it again. With perfect information so under those circumstances knowing what a partisan body it is to lose six one to lose mitt romney a former senator but a former presidential nominee in the first trial to lose five republicans on the first vote in the second trial. Six on second vote That that is unheard of in in in modern times. I wanna ask you how you think. Joe biden is approaching this. I went to Share personal story. I went to the store this week. And if you must know it was the wine store. And i was talking to the guy. They're making small. Talk as i was paying and we talked a little bit about politics and he by the way i have no idea if he's a democrat or republican you the small business owner. I think he might be sort of classical republican. I just don't know. And he said the smartest guy in america right now is joe biden. he's not talking about trump. he's not talking about impeachment. He's keeping his head down he just trying to job. What a smart guy that is. Do you agree with that assessment haley barbour. Who was the most successful head of the republican national committee back in the eighties. Had a saying the main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing i remember. I wish i come up with that. So the main thing right now is covert every the kids want to go back to school The young people want to date. Everyone wants to go back to the office. Don't wanna go out to go to a cafe In we just have life go back to normal as the most important thing right now. We all know the economic benefits that will flow in the social benefits will flow and biden. Saying right that's that's what i'm working on. And not only that. Joe biden who is famously was garrulous senators in the united states. Senate has become silent cow as president just mouthed shaolin silent what calvin. Coolidge was called silent cow. Oh so i know silent bob. That's that's a totally different cultural figure. Calvin coolidge had this row. He never talked. And and he explained that the people who burst into the oval office and they would demand your time. He said even the noisy of of them. If you don't talk for two or three minutes consecutively they just wind and biden is just not talking and you know what happens is if people see you focused on the thing they care about and they don't hear you saying anything they might possibly not like they give you credit for what you're trying to do and what is also happening. Is this vaccine thing. And i have an unusual view on this. I mean most people are. We're sort of stock on how awful things are but as you see this mighty machinery revving up and moving faster and faster. I keep thinking you know this is really going to work. Perfectly is not going to work as fast as we would like. But it's it's working. It's amazing and at the end of that people are going to recognize it and give credit to the people who were there when it worked. You know it's funny. Imagine how different it would be. If donald trump had done that focus on the main thing keeping the main thing in fact there's a lot of people have observed. Donald trump sort of succeeded in a way by doing these opposite of that right. Always the main thing to the side and creating a distraction from the distraction. He created the day before but in a way because so many bad things were going on. The distraction strategy was a little bit better for him. Perhaps in the focus strategy would is a ridiculous assessment. This is where you get to the damaged quality of for trump. The main thing was was him. Fended was fending off injuries.
"david frum" Discussed on Alyssa Milano: Sorry Not Sorry
"As you. See if you can learn something from them. And go through the formalities of democracy. Anyone who's ever sat through neighborhood Zoning Committee, deciding whether to let beer be served on a patio after ten o'clock at night. Knows what I'm talking about. That you know you go through there and their arguments. If some people want the beer to be stopped at ten, so people can get to sleep. People enjoy the liveliness neighborhood and approve recognize the need for the business to make a living, and they have it out, and through that process they become citizens. We need more of that and I think the best of what they were saying. Terrible things in the streets, receiving looting and vandalism, and and that's just appalling, and and we're seeing violence and done both by police, and by some of the people who are out in the street, and that's upon, but we're also seeing people coming together to to work out things and people who have. One set of experiences one set of stories talking to others who listen and we're going to have to bring police people into this conversation. Have them about what it's like to not know. What's in the glove compartment of the car and whether or not you will see your family that night, because when somebody reaches for their driver's license that just by being together in that way we become fuller people better people better citizens well David Frum. Thank you so much for all you do and for being a part of the podcast. But over the past few decades, the politics of division of resentment at Paranoia. Unfortunately found a home. In the Republican Party. This congress has. Championed the unwinding of campaign finance laws to give donors outside influence over our politics. Systematically attacked voting rights to make it harder for young people, minorities and the poor to vote. On tax cuts without regard to deficit slash the safety net were. CAST dozens of most to take away. Health insurance from ordinary Americans. Embrace wild conspiracy theories. Surrounding Benghazi. Or my Bursar. Rejected Science! Rejected facts. On things like climate change. embraced. Arising absolutism from a willingness to default on America's debt by not paying our bills. To a refusal to even meet. Much less consider a qualified nominee for the Supreme Court because you happen to be nominated by a Democratic president. None of this is conservative and. You. Know there used to be a loyal opposition while Republicans and Democrats never agreed on the major issues we could count on some degree of thoughtful discourse. We could believe that the other side was principled and willing to defend those principles in order to have an open and honest debate not so much anymore. Trump has shown just how little principle what passes for the Republican Party. Today holds how Mitch McConnell has been willing to cast aside all pretense of functional Senate in order to cling to power with trump, not only can we no longer count on a civil and thoughtful debate under trump and McConnell. We get no debate at all. We need Republicans like David Frum and they need thoughtful progressives like us. They strengthen our arguments. meet us in good faith in the middle, and while we might never chain one another's minds about key issues. We can at least respect the other party. Boy Do I miss respecting the other important. Be well. Sorry, not sorry is executive produced by a Lotta that's me our associate producer Ben Jackson editing and Engineering Natasha's Jacobs and music by Josh Cooke Alicia, Eagle, and Milo bully Ari. That's my boy. Please subscribe on spotify Itunes or wherever you get your podcasts, and if you like the show, please rate review and spread the word..
"david frum" Discussed on Kickass News
"Doctor fouled. She said earlier this week. That the lag in testing was in fact a failing. Do you take responsibility for that. No I don't take responsibility at all. Those words of Donald Trump at a march thirteenth press conference are likely to be histories epitaph on his presidency. A huge swath of Americans has put their faith and trump and trump only because they see the rest of the country building a future. That doesn't have a place for them. If they would risk their lives for trump and a pandemic they will certainly risk the stability of American democracy. They brought the track lips upon the country and a post trump lips country will have to find a way either to reconcile them to democracy or to protect democracy from them. It's all in a new book by Lifelong Republican and former speechwriter to George W Bush David Frum. It's called trump uncle lips restoring American democracy and today. David joins me on the PODCAST to discuss trump's handling of the covid nineteen crisis. How trump is encouraging disinformation and dangerous conspiracy theories about this deadly virus and whether Republicans may finally get on board with voting rights reforms. Now that it's a literal matter of life and death. He discusses how President Trump's dangerous pattern of decision making continually makes matters worse and says that some deep state isn't out to stop him. He has his own deep state constantly self sabotaging his own agenda while well-meaning advisors and civil servants desperately tried to save Donald Trump from donald trump. He describes trumpism as an affinity fraud. Ask what will happen. When trump's supporters realized they've been duped and ponders what will become of the Republican Party and our democratic institutions when trump and trump ism are relegated to the ash heap of history. Coming up with David from injustice moment from two thousand one.
Controversial debate featuring Steve Bannon interrupted by protesters in Canada
"Hundreds of protesters turned out in Toronto Canada last night, trying to stop a debate that featured former White House advisor, Steve. Bannon a dozen people were arrested the protesters delayed the event, but Dan carpenter reports. It eventually went ahead. Police used batons and on at least one occasion pepper spray against the hundreds of protesters who tried to disrupt those waiting to attend. The debate two officers were slightly injured during the scuffles. Many of the protesters booed and jeered at the attendees and held up placards with the slogans refugees are welcome and human rights are not up for debate inside the. The downtown concert hall. Former White House strategist Steve Bannon described the poster boy for white supremacy faced off against conservative commentator. David Frum over whether the future of western politics as populist, not liberal the event part of the Munk debates was announced days after Bannon was dropped from a list of speakers at the New Yorker festival that came after threats of
"david frum" Discussed on 760 KFMB Radio
"It's Red Eye Radio. Just was reading here. David Frum scholar. Moves not a fan of President Trump's at all and talks about the constitutional crisis. And reading an analysis of David Frum column in the Atlantic. Frum, Wilt Chamberlain. He said interesting point in this David Frum op Ed piece that New York Times op-ed is effectively a confession that there is a deep states conspiracy to subvert President Trump given that wouldn't be justified in ending the Muller investigation tomorrow. Well, ask yourself the question if this if it's true. If the op Ed piece is an accurate portrayal. Then it would be it would be that there is this grand conspiracy. That's the only thing you can take from that. Because right now, we have to believe that. It's that it's true. Now, I have my doubts as to the accuracy or the level of position at the person is in. But if you're just taking it on the surface level as the gospel at this actually, an accurate portrayal of what's going on inside the White House right now. Then you have to believe it is. And what did they say? What what what they say about the it's not a deep state. It's a steady state. It's a steady state, which is why you, and I believe that based on that if it is legit that it may be somebody who has close ties to former director Brennan or former national security head of the NFC James Clapper that we think it's would be somebody close to them. Which is why the name Dan Coats has come up that MSNBC was promoting him as a possibility. Right. And and so because there seems to be a focus on the deep state and steady state and Russia collusion, which would would make you think. Okay, or these people tied to the intelligence agencies, and is this about the, you know, the the entire deep state. And this is is somebody close to Brennan and Clapper who. Was attempting to put out propaganda against the president. We're gonna find out soon.
Jeremy Scahill on torture and Gina Haspel
"david frum" Discussed on How To Be Amazing with Michael Ian Black
"A lot of hubris but i think it also requires a lot of humility and my guest today has been one of these public intellectuals and pundits for over thirty years david frum began his career advocating for traditional conservative positions in canada before moving to the pages of the wall street journal eventually as a speechwriter for the george w bush administration he's written several books about conservatism including dead right the right man which was about his time in the bush white house in his latest book trump alkharousi the corruption of the american republic he also often appears on television and in the daily beast and is a senior editor at the atlantic and it is my pleasure to welcome david frum to how to be amazing hello thank you hello hello so i loved what will start with the book the bucks hot off the presses trump alkharousi the subtitle of the book is kinda telling i think in its broader in more alarming and then you might have written instead of uh the corruption of the white house or the corruption of the republican party you chose the corruption of the american republic are things that dyer when we start with what may be the most alarming fact are reporting the whole book a a distinguished german political scientist menem yussumov did a survey across many countries of in which he asked the question is very personally important to you to live in a democracy and what he found is that while people over seventy overwhelmingly answered yes people under thirty were uncertain only by a third of people under thirty said was personally portent to them to live in a democracy with each a decade in between being closer to one of the of with us extremes i was wondering if they were presented with an alternate form of governance a within that say were they work on they were asked a question like wh how would you feel about living under a strong men who could a bypass.
"david frum" Discussed on Kickass News
"Since partners in other countries the philippines turkey india the united arab emirates none of this has disclosed we don't know how much we don't know there is getting a flat fee or whether it's getting some kind of percentage incentive system and those business partners in turn are subject to pressure from their own governments especially his turkish partners one of whom was arrested by the turkish leader aragon in the last round of crackdowns in turkey they aragon his power over trump's business partners trump's business partners in turkey have power over trump's income is that why our policy on turkey is the way it is whether the leader of turkey can get away with seeking gunes on protesters on dupont circle beat him up and have nothing happened i don't know but the lack of disclosure makes you worried but when he got elected you know he quieted critics for a time by promising you it's gonna have this firewall between the company 'em self and he was going to donate any foreign funds that his properties received to charity is there any evidence that he's been able to keep those promises there's no there's emphatic evidence that he has not and that he has no interest in doing so he has not given any of the proceeds of uh the ample foreign business that is that he gets to charity and the firewall consists of his two terrorized and terrified sons of checking in with him as they say on a regular basis and by telling him about the receipts an answering every question he has of the business the trust instrument by which she separated himself supposedly from his company's allows him to resume control of the company's at any time and gives him first claim on any and all income from those countries that's not a divestiture that's just hiring the weakest possible management we're going to take a quick break and then i'll be back with more with david frum when we come back in just a minute.
"david frum" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air
"I am sorry and who wants to bet against that you don't wanna bet against people doing well and doing better so it's kind of a conundrum replacing her data sorry sorry report the band news all right i hope you enjoy this interview with david frum and um policy in the other side burned and i'm very excited to have david from here with the book trump pumpers how about a nice round of rating i really really looking forward to reading your book on ever since their last year i think it was the national review had the all the never trump's with all those uh essays i don't know if you guys rid of it it was fascinating to me like to me it was like that showed me how scared if what's that trump is going to be president and and now i think yours is probably the first in a wave of this type of uh now the answer to some of that that feeling of to me it's kind of it's almost like a hashtag and tell him earlier i felt like was like an episode of quincy like your this coroner instilling is how democracy die big very quickly we really look into the stomachs of tell me what trump accuracy me or thank you thank you for being here mary thank you memory to do this but i do their homework is this is the great unwashed thing he agreed to do the book before knowing that he was in the index.
"david frum" Discussed on I Have To Ask
"Administrations i get a lot of positive feedback from people on the liberal side and as a human being you respond to that but i always had the feeling that we're talking different languages an even when we are agreeing about things were decreeing with things for different reasons in in in different ways i mean i don't know i'm i don't speak liberal as my first language i noticed yet well let me let me ask you mean i knew that there are a lot of liberals who admire your rating on trump but also uh are still very angry about your support for the iraq war and kinda feel like oh whatever david frum says i don't want to listen to it and i i'm wondering how you feel about that attitude and also looking back on iraq you said you thought immigration was one of the things that brought us people like trump did you feel like a rock in this sort of societal convulsions that it led to uh both around the world and here uh played any role in the rise of someone like trump um i think the uh uh the i accept the conventional things but what happened views will the slow down the american economy i lay a lot of stress eat as much on the health effects of what's happening to non college people as the economic facts i think bushy gore is an important milestone in in set making convincing a lotta people the game is played more ruthlessly now than ever before the iraq war certainly part of that story i'm so is the disappoint disappoint with people with the weak response of the economy to the obama stimulus are a lotta milestones asked to the personal question.
"david frum" Discussed on I Have To Ask
"New town um again do you see it through the prism of your own children uh that one for me i i just i see that there's something in me which is okay i i cannot be on the sidelines on this issue and by though i just want stressed my my views on that question by the way are not so in a if if i actually seventy said okay here's a piece of paper right down the david frum guncontrol regimen it wouldn't be so very restrictive um but i i wouldn't be actually the worst nightmare of most of the people belong to the an uh nra has argued with my world you do should be able to unita shotgun to shoot dock it should be a pretty easy thing to get you need a derive let should be pretty pretty easy to get can you see yourself i mean you know if if in twenty you know if 2020 i guess probably 2024 you know a marker rubio's running for president kind of the that sort of conservative line that he ran in in this time can you sort of see going to work for another republican administration like that or juicer feel like something within eu has switched in some way and that it's hard to imagine that i don't think it would happen i f i think uh i think the republican party is going to be the divide between those two to one side of those who took the other side of this debate will be a longlasting one an and all i think the people if if your commute your theme of getting a job in the future but republican ministration everything depends on your birthday of people think the way i do if you're 32 you will absolutely be in the ascendancy in the republican administrations before your time is done i'm 57 about to turned fifty eight for the next for the rest of my working career that these are going to be the wrong views for future republic.
"david frum" Discussed on I Have To Ask
"A but let me say one more thing with street before i go on and to descend into the technicalities during the campaign um i had a friend who was involved the trump campaign who was leaning on me to be less hostile trump that i was any point your donald trump talks what many of the things about him about immigration that you do and indeed but for him these things would where be on the agenda we'd be with dealing with jeb bush who thinks the opposite view why don't you support him and i said to this this person the reason i've thought about immigration in the way that i do is in order to keep people like donald trump away from power up i don't see immigration as a way to elect donald trump icy donald trump as the threat that we face if we don't come up with an immigration policy that the society can sustain we're back to my conversation with david frum in just a second national car rental gets it they give business travelers to control they want and deserve at national you control the speed of the process with the ability to skip the counter and move as quickly as you want you are controlled the level of interaction want personalised service there there for you just want to get your car and go without talking to anyone they're good with that too and of course you control your choice of vehicle as a member of the complementary emerald club you can choose any available upgrade in the aisle even suvs and premium vehicles without paying up charges or additional fees on average four out of every five rentals at national is a free upgrade duty ability to choose your own car for speed choice and control go national and go like a pro last night trump announced the fake news awards which uh he'd been uh he been hyping up on twitter as one does with award shows and gave out awards to various journalists for um you know what he called their fake news illustrious winners in creepy include people like paul krugman who also as one and nobel prize who's probably the only person who's won both uh i guess my question for you is i i think that you and i are both of worried about trump's attacks on the press in what they mean.
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"Woo hoo sleet i have to ask i am isaac john my guest today is david frum a senior editor at the atlantic and the author of a new book from bankruptcy the corruption at the american republic performer former george w bush staffer in wellknown new conservative from his become obsessed over the past couple years with donald trump assault unamerican norms and institutions and a threat he represents he become trump david frum two american democracy david frum joins me now from new york city hey thank you for having me i considered illegally leaving jury duty to make this podcast so i hope you bring your agame today i'll do my best although i must say that the last chapter of the book ends with a note from a reader a begins with the no from reader who has said he was inspired by previous articles i've written not to skip out on jury duty so i don't know if you've got gotten the message on that i i clearly did not read the book as as well as i should have i've not getting the right message so let me ask you i i want to get to the book but i want to ask you something that i actually said that you wrote today and you've written version of before indeed save version of it uh several times and i'm going to read you the quote he say maybe you do not much care about the future of the republican party you should conservatives will always be with us if conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically they will not abandon conservatism they will reject democracy can you expand on that for for a minute and connect it to what you think is going on with conservatism in america today i worry about i think you were a lot but democratic licta when when you worry about that were always aspire to think of the spectacular examples of from the 1930's but really when democratic breakdown has taken place in more normal places and especially one that has occurred in the united states and it has a it is because people with resources become frightened of the that democratic competition will be two will they will not be able to win and they will lose in and in losing they will then lose assets that they have the value very highly and then.
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"I don't of george w bush would have done quite the same but i would i know but george w bush has had that information come from the russians or the chinese were the iranians they'd have it on the phone to the fbi that that's just the rule of the game because you should love your country more than you hate your political opponent and that rule game has been broken and so many other rules i mean donald trump is today right now receiving millions of dollars become we don't know exactly how much it from foreign business partners in the philippines in turkey in the united arab emirates as not disclosed and all those with foreign partners other private people they're not governments but they're all under the grip of governments that his donald trump's former business partner current business partner the philippines is the present filipino ambassador to the united states go back to the phones we've got kathleen on the line from dayton ohio kathleen welcomed to on point what's your question yes um i was a standard supporter and i went to a trump rally the summer of two thousand sixteen in dayton ohio i went with my sign that said i'm a standard supporter but i want to talk i talked with many many people going into the trump rally and and many of them were former gm workers delphi workers and i asked why you know what many of us here that they supported trump based on the that he was going to focus on bad trade deals and creating more jobs with higher wages and many of them actually agreed with many of the things that uh senator sanders was saying so you know trump defines those people as the forgotten men and women so i wanna ask david frum about how he thinks trump is heard were help them and i want to also s david i followed the uh uh you know uh upcoming the pro.
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"Hello just dropping into remind you about here and now we cover the day's most essential news with context so you know the why and what's next a fastpaced snapshot of the world every day listen to hear and now on npr one or wherever you listen to podcasts this is on port god john harwood were talking to david frum a senior editor of the atlantic and former presidential speechwriter for george w bush his new book trump accuracy the corruption of the american republic is out today what are the back to the phones nathan is on the line from charlottesville virginia nathan no welcomed on pointed what's your or a question for david frum john thanks and uh or david thank you for for coming on it thanks to hear from principled conservatives my own politics are our will to the left of yours but uh but i think we share at the stain for a rise of authoritarianism that we see with with trump and and i wanted to to bring in the issue of inequality and and deepening inequality over a generation movement conservatism is really push for a concentration of wealth into very few hands and i think that around the world has as also attended with uh a erosion of dimmer against the twosets and so you know to me uh stronger social democratic institutions like a social safety that like universal health care healthcare uh things that uh flatten slightly more or even a lot more the wealth distribution to the united states and other western democracies would make democracy stronger and as we see that concentration of wealth and power in just a few ads bachelet's giving rise to trump and that's and of course trump of course is making it happened more to the.
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"The the american presidency as we know it is although the constitution is very all the american presidency as we know it is really quite a new institution the presidency as we know it was built in response to the nuclear era um institutions like the national security council they all exist because once the soviets tested an atomic bomb in 1949 the united states faced with the prop possibility of an annihilating attacked would could come within hours and then later within minutes and there wasn't time to convene congress and get a declaration of war that that's one of the things i see when people say just get donald trump out of your head don't think about him so much now you think about him too much as donald trump the man the only man on earth with the power to end organized human civilization and to do it within a quarter of an hour that guy you think i think it unthinkingly in too much he is at leaned you do not expect the american presidency in american institutions to snap back to something like normal when he he leaves the presidency whenever that is i do not uh it will be the it will be the work of a generation to give him to back to normal because one thinks donald trump has done is he's discovered a lot of the things were never written down they're not laws they're just habits those habits are broken and once broken their heart put together norms are very difficult to sustain when they're broken you're right uh we're talking to david frum about his new book trump aqua received the corruption of the american public i'm john harwood and this is on point.
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"Rights are still safe i can still speak mike i the laws will still work courts will still be fair that's what donald trump is challenging when he calls the press the enemies of the people and only anybody in media fear is that you know they're gonna be arrested or that there's going to be state repression against the media but with everyone in media has noted is that donald trump incites levels of threat and violence from private actors outside politics and that those are just as intimidating specially for women in journalism up and we saw that very intensely 2016 it's abated a little bit in 2017 but all of us who um speak out are aware we all think about our safety in ways that people who criticised president obama never had to think about their safety or people criticised a president george w w bush they'll be some private actor who would at the president's instigation do something to harm you or your family uh i want to go back because young people uh millennials who are aware of david frum might think that david frum is not only part of the establishment is part of the liberal establishment but you've got a pedigree in conservative politics uh and i want to a play clip the demonstrates that in his two thousand two state of the union address president george w bush named a number of countries that he called part of an axis of evil and that is a phrase that david trunk david frum came up with let's take a lesson states like these and their terrorist allies constitute an axis of evil arming to threaten the peace of the world by seeking weapons of mass destruction these regimes pose a grave and growing danger.