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Mason and Ireland [HR 1]

Mason & Ireland

46:34 min | 1 year ago

Mason and Ireland [HR 1]

"We'll came listeners. For back for a day a day you asked we delivered yes Mason in Ireland back until three o'clock who says we don't listen to you growl getting ready for the Max shurer growl welcomed commit postseason perform yeah he just the guy just delivers in the poem GonNa Save David Freeze just like last night member they came out with Corbin tonight the Kershaw game to not only that Annabelle Sanchez was doing something that the nationals have been able to do throughout these three games and that is suspected off about that rally John some amazing stuff like for example All of the damage was done with two outs in every one of those hits nice to talk about last night a great win where the dodgers all the sudden get it cranked up in the sixth inning. There's some amazing stuff it's now especially guys like bellinger they're gonNA strike out more but this is a record high level of strike Gallinger was just off until that sixth inning a May come out with Sean doolittle their other left okay that's where I met them deflate a minute David Free You you'd still in that scenario here's leading two to one they are striking out at a record store I think they've struck out forty four times in three four times in three games they win his freezes three hits last night why not play freeze it I play Muncie at second put Lux on the bench and the hitter started out at oh two okay and it rolls into what you're going to see this afternoon. Both teams have released their lineup now can I make the argument Mace thirty okay so tonight February we'll get back and talk more about the because it's we're talking about but tonight Dave Roberts has released his lineup Yup in the lineup tonight our three rookies Yup he's starting Matt Baby Because Baby Max Scherzer is notoriously good against right handed coverage for right handed bats here's my argument Greg jumping on this if you want op three rookies starting tonight including St by the way fifteen last night back to the shirts or game they had a streak where they struck out twenty six times in fifteen innings and last night you're in the six that the people that delivered last night when you're in a panic you and I were supposed to meet last night for dinner you texted me after the dodgers show behind bat freeze in Lexus spot so you get freeze four or five at bats tonight instead of one or two Greg is because he's a righty and into it he was terrible until he had two hits in the sixth inning last but let me make this argument what the clutch that you were talking about two out to strike hits right freeze Martin Kika jt okay what are those people have in common the vets all guy the old guys where the guys learn I have no problem going back to well Smith because Russell Martin catches review I I think he caught lightning in a bottle but David freeze is the seven locks the youngest guy on the team and I like Gavin Lexa lot you know I do I talk about them all the time but Gavin Lexus starting at second base why not as hot and you said can't do it cannot leave I'm freaking out I need to be in front of my TV about their dinner. I'm out and and I had I shared your concern here's Aj pollock has been advocate but often let me make can can make this argument yeah that that had been me we did and he did not pitch well in game one either so I understand the the concept it didn't work just because something doesn't work does ask them rent those names again mar freeze Martin two oldest guys on the team key K yeah he's thirty JT north very humid yes at the end of the season he looked for the guy who scares me as Strasbourg what are the odds we see Strasbourg tonight or the heat off limits or saving them in case there's Angels Yeah Because Jack Muncie JT batting third bellinger cleanup seger his protection beatty locks will smith so three rookies in a row six flirty in game five is a really tough out for Atlanta I let me let me take that and localize it I want nothing to do with Strasbourg Atlanta in the next round if the dodgers advant I consider this to be an absolute must win for Atlanta because they're going to see flared in game five I mean it's the wrong move breaking news is that does that make sense yeah no it doesn't make sense actually breaking news and this is something we're going to be keeping an eye on for the entire hour were on yeah only used against light he's Patrick Corbin is a lefty that's when he came in and then also the nationals bullpen is just complete metal about this guy's the the young guys all for whatever reason in fact I think I mean first of all I've thought about this Corbin is daring mild say let's see until I've key K and you'd still have pollock seger but last night no no singles you're starting my sorry they still have Kiki Chris Taylor Gray right so I eight in the first four inning I mean just to strike ended up season high eight strike okay so this is kind of the sign of the Times people swinging for the the difference is that the dodgers have spent basically three months experimenting. Let's work in a rookie let's bring in Gavin Larsen Three Russell Wilson right and then the clock starts pregnant and then first pitch at three forty yup it's going to be rich hill against Max Scherzer I think personally sure Zor attended bats and three rookies I would put freeze in the fifth spot or the six if you want to do that and taken seger because you're right may seger looks like he's really struggling and but but it's hard to criticize them they're up two games to one they could end the series tonight and actually this afternoon we're leading up to the pre game show we're on we're on for an hour one game playoff you get to Strasbourg let's go the nationals like their chances they're Walker peelers never had a game that being in his life yeah we were we were at Edwin Soto at the homer I said boy this isn't good I mean immediately fallen into a hole takes the energy out of a tea well not only that and looks to me they hit him in the wild card game he was he was electric in his bullpen appearance Friday only nineteen pitched right okay but in the wild card game Atlanta just took the leading in so Saint Louis has had the lead all day Atlanta's playing Saint Louis if Atlanta wins this game that series is over here's in the dodgers would play national the dodgers have had although here's something interesting you know since May the dodgers and the nationals of the same record yeah but here's the difference young on Wednesday night even though the dodgers have walked I think it'd be a really fun game I don't WanNa see it I don't WanNa see that game I put everything in a one game playoff that favors the and let's and and by the way we think that if the braves hang on and even if the dodgers win today the game one the roast will come after that and it is free and open so come to commerce casino Friday Mason and Ireland live including a dodger viewing party and it would bring up the fact that I unfold you for it now but here's the thing if we get that game Wednesday it would be a spectacular it'd be Friday Friday no matter what at night you're roast yes which means Friday rose party commerce casino the striking out our colic and Seeger seeger's looked off yeah series I would've actually dropped sier in the lineup tonight lower he's got fed worry it was the dumbest tweet ever the I ended with I missing out on equality pistachio nut hey you're bringing this in southern California right it would be really really fun yes I still don't want it I don't want to win today I want him to wrap it up yeah I end the whole it's meaningful that they had the same record as the nationals over a particular stretch but what I'm telling you we're playing guts you go to the national started this series and say story press box is absolutely I would rather watch it in for my big screen you guys were I mean it's fun to be at the park but last year the Zimrights weren't standing up yelling he missed the tags in Florida beat him they beat them but flirty allowed one run in that game he was spectacular in that game and Carlos Martinez is the one that blew it so seeing win tickets to dodger game that's the place to go big-screen setup we'll be in there screaming at the TV's Yep if they fall behind tonight and Damn they are going to be really good okay whatever now keep in mind catch this in the fact that were you apart I'm like I can't watch a game with Gregg Yours I follow both you guys yeah social media your seat sucked oh they're terrible here's the here's the other thing I wanted to get to John You were there I watched the Lakers game saying I've worked for the Lakers for twenty years I'm a Laker Fan I believe in the concept of under promise over deliver but having said all that no I actually went out to that bar outright field I would say our game which was really fun that Licko Australia Bar Yup are striking out a lot will Smith Gavin luck and Matt Beedi or all rookies you have three out of your shock they're not striking out yeah but and the guys whatever expectations I had for what Anthony Davis and Lebron James would look like together on the same team were so Davis had eighteen points in the first quarter Yup Lebron running the point was doing far exceeded on Saturday night I have difficulty describing it it's crazy it was before we got our seats warm it was eleven did nothing Lakers they looked so good on both sides of the ball great on offense great on defense I just showed you some pictures the the wide open three Yup then it was with Steph and dream on Indian Gelo Russell on the court for the warriors at one point it was twenty seven to nine Yup Anthony the roast which John is already locked and loaded for yes gateway no some of this stuff eric very exciting mason will is his urban I thought that was a mistake lesson you know corden through more through one hundred and fifteen pitches game was just throw day he was gonNA throw no matter what have it he threw right to our guys hit the crap the dudes are going to create for their teammates guys like Danny Green and Troy Hudson and even Rondo and the Lakers were not making their three as Anthony Davis only meet one of eight outside jumpers and they still destroyed the warriors the way I mean deval looked spectacular super athletes give Matt let's let's play Jay Jerko I mean they really experimented because they had such a big lead so I don't buy the made some threes yeah whatever whatever you thought this was going to look like it was way way better let's listen to John Ireland call act live impressive so all that is coming up for you on Friday make sure you make plans to meet you guys WanNa see you guys so I do I do not follow you wow thing where you like to just pistachio tweet couldn't take years ago don't bring it up again listen to Anthony Davis his first I mean granted solely preseason but his first bucket wearing a lakers uniform he's got the ball whoa was making passes in creating opportunities for a d. that if you're a Laker fan it's impossible not to get excited about the NFL Anthony Davis taken over with the rebound put back dunk now is that the first Anthony Davis weakness he has handle he rebounds he runs the floor he blocked shots It just it could not have gone better let's do the show live from three zero five then it's a dodgers viewing party if they advanced as long as they advance they're going to let's not even put out there that they're not going to advance and the new chase center to nothing Lakers there it is I mean I don I'm running out of superlatives and it's it's been one game yeah you gotta you gotTa dial it down four I think the first one was from Lebron from the beginning but he he did David everything yeah I mean he just the guy has oh yeah you're not going to go with the righty writing Justin Turner yet so we'll get in everyday play and David was only used against lefties and there's a reason he's dribbling top of the key cuts through the defense the way to the rim misses a tip in by Davis is good so Anthony Davis is the answer who scored the first basket inventively Dwight Howard looked really good double double yeah I mean I just thought Caruso Leading Edge Russo Troy Daniels off the band and will start to drink heavily great you get to watch us live doing mason in Ireland and watch the game which by the way it is it is a thrill to see the show track live is to Laker Games yeah four thirty in the morning day and then four thirty in the morning Saturday the Lakers are in China yet fluid which was which was really fun but it was there terrible see it's very difficult sermon I followed you again yes you are wait I'm going to fix the playoffs in Dublin I'm doing four thirty Laker game and then coming back in and doing Mason and Ireland Thursday night Friday is going to be the crazy day Friday is we him Friday night Craig and I were and by the way Greg and I did not sit together we'll both just one part the million people yes anybody can go we no longer taking texts yeah no worry about the tracks thing you can just come show up to Commerce Commerce Casino there yesterday Michael and I are going to call the Games in the old chick hearn simulcast fashioned wow we're gonNA come from a studio at Time Warner or spectrum spectrum yeah as they add three more and it is now eight to two wow and here's jt getting ready for Max Scherzer obviously we got her Alphonso mckinney they had the the core of the guys that are gonNA play and the the the Lakers just looked as good as you can look yes and so here's the the fall with him another one of their three horses and will enjoy this one tonight and then show up tomorrow and and game plan and try to make him work for Acta Davis Davis tripling down the middle try to go to Lebron stolen stolen back by Rondo kicking a green three pointer by green no good rebound battled for Anthony appeared to be the Pinata yeah and we will be smacking away on Friday night now great people still go to that right because it facilitates ten twenty thousand people you're predicting it is scale of one to one hundred I don't know how you're gonNA defend them yeah I really don't now putting a dose of a reality in this the warriors were down a couple of centers we'll take the bullet for both of you so replay that game at some point of the Lakers networks just tape it for Thursday and then I'm doing are every single out he gets tomorrow night just like you know we've done all year long and we show up with the mentality that we WANNA win one game that day every single day didn't have Willie Cauley Stein who they're going to have during the regular season and they didn't have a couple of backup dudes but they had dream on Yup they had staff they had the Angelo Russell John Turner touch them all and the dodgers unloading here in inning number six one I was now I I don't know what it is about him in the postseason but think about this way if richhill struggles today we may see kershaw absolute that's how we're going to matter all year long it's easy to talk about that and I've been on teams to talk about that it's hard to actually do it and this is really good about showing up and four and five three seventy eighty are a buck buck one po point one point one four whip one hundred nine strikeouts in eighty eight innings gave us let's go yup you bring me all your other fun little dynamic duos I use all their door they're adorable doc put my two guys up against two you wanNA throw let's go coming up next how have Max Scherzer and richhill pitched in the postseason career got that information and on Thursday on Saturday now beyond that before yeah yeah it'll be fun well the end so you'll get another look at Moco no no no coming up next for you Mason and Ireland. ESPN like the pitch swing and a high fly ball that's well-struck left field that will back there on its way and it's chill it's career Kershaw S. One and two three Oh four thirteen thirty one whip sixty three strikeouts fifty and a third innings Greg and I were talking about of I'd have to look at jerk owes numbers no no no no no and fact and the other guy would suggest is I don't know if you'll be healthy Verduga supposedly going to be healthy at some point sudden ballinger looked awful carries until last night if they're starting Bainian Lux tonight correct me if I'm wrong they don't have a left handed pinch hitter expectations for richhill tonight and I think they get four innings out of him that's a lot of innings but daddy great five hits three walks one hundred fifty on the roster pollock will be there whether he plays or not is the question yeah he just doesn't look right but let's see I mean but here's the thing you know it's Weird Commerce Casino Yeah we do the show then we watch the LAKER games than we do the rest then I get up at four o'clock Saturday morning and do the Laker game man bring on let's go wow we got Lebron Anthony input on online and figuring out how to win one game at a time and that's how about tomorrow and Shaul guys all guys delivering ensures her career postseason pretty ordinary really conceivably because I think Walker Buehler's the guy that we won't see tonight Walker builder they're saving for game five tonight absolutely they are now the now eleven at bats off he has been well you know and think about this I know I suggested this and you showed me down but I don't think he's a lock to be on the postseason roster in the next series really good but I don't think the nationals can go to their bullpen trust no no they can't that's why they're looking Corbin I think we'll see doolittle tonight we'll see those two best points right now investment compared to the nationals and look that Adam Caloric those matic one soda I always it is calling it from the studio we're Michael Nardone TBN radio oh can store off they didn't want to get up middle of the night shift and we'd said we'd happy yeah my that's my reward is right he's definitely going to walk a bunch of guys if he gives up three runs early get a hook yeah you Friday night yeah get th-this the only two left he's on the roster And that's going to allow Dave Roberts to flip all those left-handed bats and we'll start seeing guys like tk and freeze and we're always reset welcome to the dodger pre-game show ESPN LA here we go man a lot to talk about last was up a double they made just yanked out while that I'll tell you I never thought I'd say this but the bullpen is one of the dodgers think the nasty if they go to game five it would be great to Bueller and then Kershaw the pen their bullpen has been fantastic in this series really even better shower cheer for Your Team Got Soda Oh for three with two strikeouts and all in late inning situations caloric and look the hook and Kershaw I was in a hotel room in San Francisco and I'm watching a game and I'm like I've seen this movie I don't I don't WanNa see Kirschstein anymore bringing dustin we were arguing for Kershaw game if they go if they go to a righty they're starting Scherzer's righty they go to a lefty and the dog nobody then the and then they go back to a radio this is one of those things where at the trade deadline we were all upset that the dodgers didn't do more they snuck over Adam caloric who has become one put on the Roswell d you have feelers because Keith Taylor and bellinger all can play Infield and outfield right so you you have enough mixing and matching it would be a matter the post he's not gonna be healthy he's not ready for the LCS even ready us now it's not like they've got a bunch of options for that last spot Chris Taylor I don't know about Aj pollock you know what's Weird Aj pollock has been a disaster no he's season of nine over eleven with nine striking iron strikeouts free in his career in both guys hand especially once you start changing going into your bullpen for the nationals there terrible outside of Corbin and back if once they flipped to right handers no it's going to be okay because of guys that are there like Chris Taylor who is a righty and Kiki was a righty can hit both guys they are just no I'm dialing it up Donald Domino Joe I gotTa have somewhere to go Manu if you start at ten no we're going to one hundred oh Rosberg they said what are you love Terry Offs in baseball is tonight is short leash city yeah if you bring in a guy and and he did yeah they've used all their lengthy have no left handed pinch hitters right that is correct that's the problem with Vertigo getting hurt yeah that's right there's not another left hand Lebron longer but I guess the only way they would even lager it's another left if a mafra another lefty so he basically comes in to face want so he's got the best job in the team he's the semper pitcher I think he is he is we'll see I mean if he finishes over fifteen yeah with WHO who rather there's there's not another yeah we're GONNA put on other outfielder you're going to their most value who friedman having Tampa yeah and that's one of those under the radar moves that that Friedman absolutely specializes in he's been great in that situation Freeman has done nothing but do positive things for this dodger team they're going to the world series two years in a row they're they're on the verge of going to an animal and that's all Jacob just wants to make sure that everybody listening right now knows the rights and to check with your insurance carrier to make sure you are insured properly if happen every single day and unfortunately not everybody has got car insurance so what happens when you are in an accident with somebody who doesn't care you're injured for a free consultation remember call Jacob Eight four four twenty four Jacob that's eight four four thousand four Jacob Call Jacob Eight four four twenty four Jacob Oh pay your medical bills if the other driver is an insure you by thousands of extra coverage for usually just a little extra per month fire anybody moving Gavin locks I mean Gavin locks is the future of seconds as well I mean there's there's a handful talk with your insurance agent and make sure you've got uninsured motorists so if you're hit by somebody who doesn't have insurance you got protection on your own policy that will insurance unless you protected yourself you may be in a bad spot Jacob wants everybody to listen to this check your car insurance coverage do it today what hung it up was that they wouldn't include Gavin Lex in the deal and the pirates didn't touch and then Felipe Vasquez has been charged with stature right My Buddy Jacob has got big advice for everybody listening right now there are more than six million cars in southern California and accidents N. pieces everything everybody that moved that everybody seemed to want to move dust in May and Tony Goldwyn for this was the better idea keeping what you have and the dodgers bullpen by the way I think we'll both be on the rotation next year the guys that they would have gotten worse somebody like Shane Green who for Atlanta has not been good green is not been good no all the guys that went to the nationals they're all been tearing you'll Hudson Hunter Strickland mean all those Rodney bad in the bullpen the braves terrible Jason in Ireland saw happened and we're working our way towards dodger baseball at the top of the hour you'll hear the game John Chubby along with Jess Mendoza Tori rape but right minor and maybe done may not be playing anymore at all and you know and that was the deal that was close and they didn't do it imagine any place it looks like they still have even more down there they're amazing there's more talent coming there is an online believable pipeline people always say that you talk about the easy was is not up so if you got somebody who is on your Oscar and is helping you then they look at the players moved at the trade deadline there's nobody moving Gavin locks you're not you're not move and frankly I'm glad they did move Tony God Selena I'm glad they didn't move dustin may other guys that were mentioned Goslin in May sometimes the best deals on the wants you don't make according to Buster Fully Bay Vasquez were they were deepened his into discussions to get him very deep and what top five in baseball the dodgers far the best bullpen close it all depends on what you get in return in whether or not you win the world series for example Tony Gone Dodgers have ritual in the mound coming off a ten four win last night to take a two one series advantage it's Max Scherzer for the nationals the move that I would have included Tony gone for it it was kind of disappointed there's no Machado yeah there was no big talent that moved at the trade deadline this year very many potentially for the next decade any player Yeah I mean you get Alex Bregman you do it by shroud deals aren't on the table saying those those trade deadline deals Yep the raiders upset the bears yesterday John They not only did that but my mom got eliminated in survived all the Ireland's to Jeff Chiefs Kansas I keep thinking about those guys they they called uncle at halftime right they took Lebron and Anthony Davis out of the game at Halftime Yeah Without Kyle Kuzma Yep Quinn Cook did not play and I you know and this is the one that that I listen Anthony Davis we talked a little bit about that Trojan said their bye week this week there at Notre Dame Saturday let me let me throw this out there but the Lakers yeah they did this thinks before that but I'll look it up the it seems though that that this this partnership between Lebron and go clippers Utah and yet I'm praying for health that's you know that's the one thing that could disrupt this whole thing is injuries for any team but so so would be game one of the World Series Heck Yeah bring it on new imagine bring maybe here if the Yankees are playing good maybe the Yankees eliminated the Astros we get world series yeah one more there than we're not okay and then it opens the twenty six th I think I think it's October the twenty seven that sounds late Phinney Davis is everything we wanted it to be it that which is Great October the twenty second second let's we thought okay which I think is also I read where Jared Dudley Sore knee might not play tonight and she looks and goes well why risk if yes she said if anyone sore it's one so I basically after the game is over I watched it in a bar with a whole bunch of other example game was over I kinda felt like the ram voiced one out of the hat he won he was literally doing that let's see what else Lakers spectacular debut for Lebron James Member carjacked Ecology Golf Jacob Dot Com Mason and Ireland Espn La Nights so there's a lot going on very season yeah she is up to the coaches but she goes I agree with them doesn't necessarily mean if it was a regular see jared in the gym on Saturdays fine but he's just a little bit sarge if anybody saw their their load managing yeah which is we'll be interesting what they do with these games in China I would imagine don't you think they'll play fewer minutes and game one yeah so staple center in Dodger Stadium going head to head on opening night wow for both the world series it's great time to live here it is a great time in is that it one more at Golden State Season Games six of them yeah let's hold on let over we've had ones and use it to in China then to here -ception yet yeah no he and he is about as elusive and slippery as a quarterback can be every time you think you've got him he scores away he is really really good I so this This other in had a perfect quarterback rating you could not make it any higher it's like one fifty nine tied for the League lead in touchdown passes and I'm not sure he's had an interest all right so they got out of it still going to the seventh are bottom of the six now Atlanta four Saint Louis or some shaky bullpen so it's not over the regular season started tomorrow I can't wait for the regular season I just think that the Lakers have a favorable schedule at the start of the year you could get off to a great start I did won that game I like you and I have the exact same opinion I'm nuts this yeah I I said this and Lindsey theory was on the other day with sixth-inning Atlanta leads four three but there is no where to put this guy and if he gets a hit it could blow the game open and that we kick the braves was the ten Yup okay yeah I thought and by the way you know how I've been sorta down off lead them down the field and put them in perfect position you charge for nights weekends and holidays usually ratty within forty five minutes oftentimes sooner than that that's why they're my plumber they WANNA be yours to call them today asked city yeah so you're supposed to make Philadelphia Philly I'd already used to my father still love you you're having a gambling year man so keep the keep an and I'd say I I was talking to Judy Cdo who is now in charge of hell yeah and I said Hey China I would think but let's let's see and then too they have a home preseason game two of them two of them both against the warriors next week okay and then game the game that matters to the dodgers is could get broken open right now it is bases loaded for the braves in the top of the sessional affordable it's who they are it's in their name I'm talking about power pro plumbing call eight hundred five eight four four one six eight hundred five eight snus anytime I have any type of plumbing issue have broken pipe have clogged drain anything I call power pro when you call them they offer free estimates no offense spray and and don't you think Russell Wilson is now inconsideration for MVP little magician yeah he's unbelievable he is a little genius out there Eric Weddell had four four one one six or visit power plumbing dot com when we come back one final segment of the Mason in Ireland show outright last year they won all those close games now and you know he just had a rare miscue yeah and you know if I've gotta take nine out of ten from airline La you know we could be in Washington where they're firing coach basketball team stinks one greg shoreline field goal we haven't told you about this for an LLC s and game one would be Friday tonight'd as Max Scherzer on the mound for the nationals he did throw in relief in game two well if he's doing well then you'll never see richhill a third time through the lineup no matter what about a second time Oh potentially yeah the game's not till Friday so I think they'll go home and this would allow them to avoid flaherty in a in a game five got him leaving you into the dodger pre-game show we have every pitch for you on ESPN radio coming up at the top of the Hour Mason in Ireland Espn La this when you were out in San Francisco that was their best most complete game of the year completely hurry and I thought you know what Sir Line makes that nine out of ten times just live with strain towards the end of the season came back and had a couple of appearances where he threw three and four innings I wouldn't anticipate to see him more than three or four innings tonight we're getting ready for game for the NFL D. S. dodgers a chance to close out the Washington nationals and punch their ticket to the the power special the clean your main drain give me a camera sewer inspection for just ninety nine bucks all you need is proper access so when I say powerful second time yeah but the way the bullpens throwing I mean you don't mind hand the ball off to to dust in May into the next round I wonder if the braves would even go home what's today Monday oh yeah come here no they'll go home until Friday so gone for two days yeah and then Matt Beatty and gathered locks and six left-handers in the lineup to face Max Scherzer Sherzer by the way just on Friday night and look great late in the game and it'll be rich hill for the dodgers who came back from injury he had a knee finishing fourth three.

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206 - The Strange Kidnapping of Patty Hearst

Timesuck with Dan Cummins

2:07:55 hr | 1 year ago

206 - The Strange Kidnapping of Patty Hearst

"Today we dissect the OH. So strange kidnapping and subsequent criminal activities committed along with her captors of Patty Hearst Aka Patricia Hearst Aka the daughter of Randolph Hearst Aka the granddaughter of one of the richest men on Earth when he was alive William Randolph hearst. Patty came from so much privilege. She was someone who knew from the moment you could comprehend what money was and what it can do for you that she would personally never want for cash that her financial needs would always be taken care of things to immense family wealth. She lived a sheltered life free from worries and struggles most of the world faces and have always faced at least she did until she was kidnapped at the age of nineteen by these Symbionese Liberation Army a group of Berkeley radicals led by Donald to freeze born into almost opposite circumstances Patricia in Donald's lives would collide when Donald had formed a group of radical militants with some friends. He met in prison decided to kidnap Patty in an attempt to make her wealthy family feed. The hungry of San Francisco a step towards the destruction of what he saw as an evil oppressive American society built on capitalistic greed. Donald wanted to start a revolution and he saw kidnapping the air to a media empire is being a big step towards kick in that shit off and while the revolution. Ever came, it wasn't due to lack of effort. There was no joke. They executed hearst kidnapping with ruthless efficiency and carried out murders, robberies and bombings and Patty hearst not long after her kidnapping began to help commit some of these crimes people around the world watched in awe as the strange story unfolded after patties kidnapping his days turn to weeks and weeks turned into months. They washed his patty. Transition from pleading for her family to bring her home to blaming her family for many of society's ills and telling the world that the La was a noble organization. She was proud to be a soldier within this organization Patricia denounced her family and multiple recorded messages that were played for all of America over the radio claim that she had evolved into comrade of the Revolutionary Force to fight fascists. Why did you do this a psychological condition known as Stockholm Syndrome May, be to blame. It Patty truly enjoy being a member of the SA a sheltered rich girl living life on the wild side is many acclaimed or had her captors truly truly brainwashed her this week we're gonNA talk about some socially turbulent times. The seventies when a bunch of young people cross America outdid themselves to prove who could be the most radical the most militant the most shocking. We're GONNA talk about bombs and FBI raids will detail who patty hearst was who her kidnappers were and will follow her kidnapping and following crimes free as leads into the first trial of the century windy stop being a hostage and start being a member of the gang. 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And and last thing before diving in today's story is set mainly in central California and heart goes out that thousands of people recently displaced by so many crazy fucking fires going on. Man's crazy storms out in the midwest crazy fires on top of everything else this year I'm recording this on Thursday August twentieth. Hopefully, by the time you hear it, these fires are contained. Now, let's get to suck in one hell of a tail. Not, a ton of setup needed for this one, but but decent amount info we're going to go over before we get into the time line we will jump at the time line to get You know feel for cultural events that that lead to SLA's creation kidnapping a hearse demo follow the group's exploits right up to the eventual deaths, a members and incarceration of others will cover patties life and timeline from the time she was kidnapped up until the present day I though I want to feel for hearst family's fortune right? The her family and in who donald the freeze was and why he formed the SLA. It's important to know the M-. The kind of money the Patricia hearst came from on February Twentieth Nineteen Fifty Four Patricia Campbell hearst was born in San Francisco the third of five daughters of Randolph appleton hearst and Catherine Wood Campbell. and. Her and I basically did have the exact same childhood in so many ways while most parents, the nineteen fifties read the newspaper attended the movies, visit museums, patio parents printed the newspapers, created movies and established museums. Normal families voted for or against politicians patio those politicians over for dinner. So same. Her parents were in charge of a media empire. My Mom were two grocery store that did sell some magazines she grew up in a mansion. mainly. Trailers in apartments tomato tomato. She grew up in the bay area full of museums and concerts and culture, and the Hustle and bustle of a major metropolis and I grew up in a small town in Idaho. County. There was the butt of jokes for most people living and other small Idaho County talents because we were even smaller and more backwards than they were She had hired help serving her five course meals I had either whatever my grandparents were cooking at night or had to make my own ham and cheese hot pockets or readers cheese burritos. We both had pools. So okay, that's pretty cool. Sure. Hers was in grounds and heated an enormous and cleaned by professionals in mine came in a box and k. mart and was literally never cleaned not even one time until the garden hose. Then last long because me and my friends ripped to fucking hole thin plastic wall and water poured out and turn part of the art into a swamp real met basically though we live the same life separated only by time just socioeconomic status. I can't relate to her childhood on any level she grew up in so much wealth patty the grew up in just about the highest level of privilege one could grow up in. Northern California's is saying a lot for an area that consistently ranks as one of the top three most expensive city to live in an entire night like like if you grow up part of the elite class of San Francisco, you're going to be part of the elite class pretty much fucking anywhere. You know it's very different than be like one of the wealthiest families in elko Nevada which might not mean shit in in the bay area looking back patty would describe her childhood as really pretty. Perfect. To quote really pretty perfect How many can say that she grew up primarily in the suburb of Hillsborough attended it's crystal Spring School for Girls in the Santa Catalina School in Monterey. Sure both of schools were very similar December high school and junior high right and in school. Teachers you know. she didn't briefly attended the tiny private Menlo College in Atherton California, thirty miles south of San Francisco Atherton known for being one of the wealthiest towns per capita. If not, the wealthiest in America it has the most expensive zip code an entire us. If you WanNa go to Menlo College, it has less than eight hundred total undergraduates. You need a lot of don't. Orlando loans and scholarships tuition alone is forty-five grade of the year. And increasing by couple of thousand every year and you're not gonNA find a cheap place to rent in that area about it is about six grand cheaper than Harvard Nyu if you're looking for a deal. I transferred to the University of California Berkeley, a school her family had very deep connections with several buildings on campus named after various hers family members because they've given so much damn money to the school over the years. There's the hearst memorial mining building the hearst field annex the hearst Jim Pool hearst tennis courts, the Phoebe, a hearst museum of anthropology. phoebe is Patties great-grandma will meet her in a bit. So let's let's examine. How wealthy Patty's family is in was. Short answer superwealthy like unbelievably wealthy like I'm proud of driving around a nice not fully loaded but not a base model two, thousand, sixteen, F one, fifty, a little bit of window tinting. leveling kit custom wheels. I. Like it at very much. The heirs to the hearst family could each pay someone to buy brand new fully loaded F one, fifty right drive it off the lot straight to a fucking junkyard and just have destroyed. They could do that every single day for an entire year and just not noticed a difference in the lifestyle. As of two thousand sixteen the most recent year we could find the list we were looking for the hearst family was the ninth richest family in the US with around twenty, eight, billion dollars worth of assets. Fully loaded new GONNA. Set you back about seventy five grant. If the hers family used their fortune to buy nothing but loaded F. One fifties, they could by roughly four, hundred, thousand of them. Or. Eight, thousand, ten, million dollar homes where did all this money come from the used to be even more wealthy than this actually the hearst corporation traces, its roots to one of the richest men of his era William. Randolph hearst, Patty's grandfather but the money didn't start with a Willie Randy. Willie Randy. was born rich son of another very wealthy man named George Hirst phoebe husband. A Patricia Great Grandpa George was a very successful American businessmen minor and politician born in eighteen twenty. And, George was not born into money. He's really where it starts. He was born very much a part of America's working class George Hirst was born near Present Day Sullivan Missouri, just under seventy miles southeast of Saint Louis. Children of Scots, Irish immigrants is grandfather was taken off a boat and onto American soil as a small child in seventeen, sixty, six numerous family members were granted farmland in the colony of south. Carolina. George grew up on a farm. One of three children grow up in a log cabin in Franklin County. No AC no central see no heat other than the law though with the stove. His education consisted of some some elementary school. nothing else not quite like a Menlo college or UC Berkeley level of education. George like his parents before him became Missouri farmer but he wasn't content with just farming. He wanted gold as gold in them hills, kind of gold. On eighteen twenty, nine, hundred was nine years old. There was a huge gold rush and Appalachian Mountains, of Georgia, by the way, and that word is to prevent emails I I did a little extra deep dive in on Appalachian Appalachian both totally acceptable people who live in the Appalachian or Appalachian Mountains say the word both ways. by eighteen, forty, most of the gold to be. In Georgia at least with eighteen forty mining tools was gone by eight and forty eight prospectors were flooding to California. They're heading West for some major strikes two years earlier. Eighteen, forty, six, Georgia's father died at age twenty, six became the head of the family interested in mining since he was a kid, he did a little bit of money locally not enough to improve his fortune and some substantial way. But enough to get a taste for how much the right strike could increase your fortune and enough to realize he was good at it. He had a knack for it. He was a man with a nose for valuable minerals. He did take off for California in eighteen fifty once the family was nice and set Missouri arriving near Sutter's mill on the American river over forty miles east of Sacramento he didn't find much his first winter west. He moved forty miles north after that to the grass valley and made a decent living run courts, mines ranching, and running a general store for decade wasn't wealthy yet but doing well. Then in the summer of eighteen, fifty nine, he buys a one six interest in the Oh for silver mine near Virginia City. Nevada. Super Cool. Little western town if you ever can swing through it. I love that little town and then the following winter thirty, eight tons of silver or are taken out of that mine. It produced a profit of ninety one thousand dollars close to three million in today's dollars just at first winner, which means I made the equivalent of half a million in any made that you know quick and you use that money to buy more shares of claims in mind such as the Ontario Silver Mine in Park, City, Utah the Anaconda mine in Butte Montana. He didn't just take that initial money and walkaway hoard it like some would have done. I could have done that but if he did, he would have never become wealthy you might have been well off but now wealthy instead of wealthy people do he invested his first big score in in chances to hit more big scores calculated risks and he did hit more and more big scores. Then in eighteen sixty two, he returned to Missouri at the age of forty two to be with his dying mother, and while back at home, he married nineteen year old phoebe Anderson, a local teacher known to have the nicest ass and all of Franklin county she was known by more people as sweet cheeks than she was by her birth name phoebe was a pagan nudist which was unusual for that part of Missouri at that time and many things she put a witch spell on George to convince him to marry her. and. Of course stuff I said after local teacher was true I know nothing. About notoriety or lack there of phoebe budgets I'm I'm guessing she would be shocked an appalled disgusted. If you heard me say that Georgia probably challenged me to do you know defender on her Eighteen sixty to the nation was engulfed in civil war and George decided to skip it. He Sweet Jake's kidding phoebe turn their eyes away from the strife of north versus south and just headed back West to continue building his fortune. They settled in San Francisco had their only child William Randolph hearst a Willa Randy in eighteen sixty three George continued to reinvest his money. He found a number of mining operation including the highly successful homestake mine in the Black Hills a South Dakota that mind didn't stop producing golden till two, thousand, one this this one mine. One of many George would own at least a large percentage of produce more than forty million troy ounces of gold during his lifetime. Gold was just over two thousand dollars an ounce, the other day forty, million ounces times two, thousand that's eighty billion dollars. George also began a career in politics shortly after returning west, he was elected to the California state assembly in eighteen, sixty, four one of a dozen men represent San Francisco in eighteen eighty he bought the San Francisco Examiner or if you believe the legend, he wanted gambling. So it was given to him to cover some gambling debts. This'll become the flagship of the hearst media empire, George himself never really care about it never really be a a big newspaper, Guy His. Son Oh, Shit. Georgia's appointed to be a US senator in eighteen, eighty six to fill a vacancy, and later that year is elected as a Democrat have remained a senator until his death in eighteen, ninety one and also puts on Willie Randolph in charge of the examiner in eighteen, eighty, seven, four years before his death and what's phoebe doing during all this living luxuriously she's traveled around Europe trouble on numerous times beginning eighteen, seventy three she's split time between a variety of lavish hearst homes in the bay area he's spoiled Little Willie Randy. George would say about his son, there's only one thing that's sure about my boy when wants cake he wants cake and he wants it now and I noticed that after a while it gets the cake. Nice noise who doesn't want that kind of childhood kind. We always get the fucking cake. Phoebe all sorts of buildings for various educational uses. As you already know, she became a major benefactor to the university of California Berkeley. She served as its first female regent, remaining on the board from eighteen ninety seven until her death in nineteen nineteen. Now, let's look and see how Paddy's GRANDPA Willie Randy took the hearst fortune to even greater heights than his father. first before he started building fourteen party is ass off at Harvard and waste of his parents money young really hurts was expelled after two years of college for antics ranging from sponsoring massive beer parties in Harvard Square. Descending Chamber Pots Aka Turbbach it's to his professors with their images drawn into the bottom of the bowls. Pretty sweet spoiled asshole rich kid or American hero maybe both. I love to go into great detail regarding how he transformed his father's newspaper into national media empire. But that would. Require, a second Willie himself, which probably do one of these days This particular hearst also played a large part in the criminalization of marijuana in America. Is a bit of a Belen using his vast media empire to publish a lot of reefer madness propaganda bullshit that's for another day. the short version of how he grew. His money further is by nineteen twenties after taking control of the examiner in eighteen eighty seven, which was actually struggling when he took it over Willie Randy own the first nationwide media chain which included Harper's Bazaar The New York Morning Journal good housekeeping. His Empire became notorious for its quote unquote yellow journalism talked about this a bit in my Ted Talk Yellow. Journalism is sensationalist lurid style of reporting the kind that were just used to. Now the majority of journalism now is I would say yellow journalism less emphasis on fact more emphasis on opinion spin extreme you know eye-catching headlines. Because this new more entertaining style of presenting the news hearst publications attained an unprecedented amount of circulation at its height is estimated that one in five Americans were reading hers papers, every Fucking Day. William would also invest in radio movies and television in Nineteen Zero three to thirty, four year old Hurst Mary. The twenty year old millicent Veronica Wilson millicent will give birth to five sons George Randolph hearst William Randolph Hurst. Junior John Randolph I just love rotate in the same names. He's Eagle Maniacs and then the twins randolph another end up at Persson hearst and David Whitmire hearst. Randolph Appleton is patty hearst father was born in Nineteen fifty. Let's talk about his dad more the by nine hundred, twenty-five, her album required newspapers in every section of the United States as well as several magazines. He published books produced movies. Then in the nineteen twenties, he built a grandiose castle on a two hundred and forty thousand acre. Ranch. On the California coast in San San Simone California, two hundred and forty miles south of San Francisco. He furnished his residential complex with a vast collection of antiques and art objects. The bought in Europe a playwright, George Bernard Shaw famously described Castle as the place God would have built. If he'd had the money, it is not one hundred, fifteen rooms thirty eight bedrooms over forty bathrooms a theater, a beauty salon, a giant indoor Rome until giant outdoor pools, and it originally sat on three hundred, seventy, five square miles of private land. Everything was made custom for it. Now, this isn't fucking particle board. This is like exotic marble. Crazy expensive materials at the peak of his fortune in nineteen thirty, five Willie fucking Randy owned twenty eight major newspapers, eighteen magazines, several radio stations, movie companies. New Services. The Great Depression of the Nineteen Thirties would seriously weaken his financial position, but he would rebound you know in the in the forties and then he died in one, thousand, nine, fifty, one to age eighty, eight and Patricia's father Randolph. I was the last surviving of his five boys and the one that would inherit his father's vast fortune when Randolph died in two thousand and his estate was. Valued at one point, eight, billion dollars. So you know I, it wasn't as big as it was at one time but still billionaires the Modern Day corporation which owns forty-six newspapers three hundred and forty magazines around the globe as valuable stakes and cable channels like ESPN lifetime a-a-any it's currently chaired by William Randolph hearst the third guy love to keep the name, his family. Patty second cousin. Her father's cousin's son. The hearst corporation is the rare private corporation with over ten billion dollars in annual revenue. Okay. So sorry for the detour there. But an important part of the story is why the SLA chose to kidnapped Patty hearst they chose her because in the bay area, her name was synonymous with extreme wealth old money. If you're a communist revolutionary type living in the bay area, you know all about the her family and they represent to you the worst of capitalistic greed. Now let's talk about these people who oppose capitalism especially, the kind of capitalism I practice and when I say posed I mean committed to committing serious fucking violence and what law enforcement deemed domestic terrorism easy bojangles easy. So now as we talk about communism, all right, you know that good what calm calm down. Painting the decade of the seventies with broad strokes. Yes. Mentioned an economic depression, an oil crisis. the end of the flower child era, and for many of those former flower children a descent into drugs and various colts for many. The seventies wasn't nonstop late night disco parties fuelled by Coke in quotes for some was, they must've had fucking blast great but for many with an uncertain, even exceedingly pessimistic time. Tim Finley. San Francisco Chronicle and rolling, stone. the man who discovered the identities of the Simbi. Symbionese there you. Take me second few times that word the semi's liberation. Army said this of the Nineteen Seventies in San? Francisco. The mid seventy s the antiwar movement beginning to climb simply because Vietnam War was ending. There was less and less the mass movement going on in Berkeley and more concentrated sales people within Berkeley, who live in adult lifestyle. In order to be part of this past and Berkeley you gain status by being more revolutionary than the other guy by having that superior compassion motivated a lot of people. There had been a change in direction the civil rights movement because identified more with empowering racial differences rather than melting them rather than integrating society. And there was developing at that time as well as far more ideological slant. Relatively innocent movement. If. You look back to such things as the weather underground in nineteen, sixty eight. They did not attack the tuition's in order to kill people around people or what have you. They attacked institutions as Sabah tour's. As a resistance against the war and against the power of the establishment to had. It's awesome fun behind that. Some good feedback and last week sound bits. Makes a little stories little more entertaining a moment he'll. whereas the ethos of the sixties counterculture in San Francisco had been about civic participation marching for civil rights protesting at citizens that sort of thing seventies was all about who could be the most radical this attitude was held partly due to political motivations probably to stave off the existential dread of confronting the country that had just come out of a war with no victors and it come into an economic depression and partly you know just to just look Cooman can you dig it? Has Everything copacetic with you. With Me Jive. Turkey. A revolution coming. It's going to be Donald Mike out of sites. So do me a salad and get a right right on right on right on. Catch on the flip side you know that kind of thing. And race to see who could be the most revolutionary one of the stars of today's Suck Donald. David freeze was a front runner. Let's meet this crazy son of a bitch. To freeze was the founder of the radical group that would go on a big crime bender nineteen, seventy-three, nineteen, seventy, five, he committed plenty of crimes before that time well. Wasn't stranger to crime a man not afraid to commit crime and a man when he kidnapped Patty hearst surrounded by Bay area well educated young. Marxist. Flavored revolutionaries who had never themselves committed crimes. But one of some of that grit and excitement made him feel edgy and they fed his delusions of grandeur. Fifteenth Nineteen, forty three to free was born in Cleveland, Ohio birthplace of my Polish wife city with lots of Polish people that. Long history kicking out monsters net part of the world you get. His parents were Louise Mary decrease and he was not born into wealth and privilege like Patty hearst and I were. A freeze was the eldest of eight children his mother Mary was a registered nurse at a nursing home his father although there isn't much info on him apparently wasn't as carrying as to freeze his mother according to some reports. He disciplined Donald as boy by breaking both of his arms not once not twice but three separate fucking time. So clearly Donald was a bad kid who started off being about listening and ended up being bad at thrown baseball the stop right now you. Know this is true. His father was clearly extremely physically abusive to freeze. We grow up to become a very angry and violent man and if my dad had broke both my arms three times. Yeah I probably would have been angry and violent my twenties as well. and. In my teens at the age of Fourteen Donald David freeze dropped out of school ran away from home ran away from his dad losing yet another arm match semi come on he can now. He did really run away though unless that's not funny. You understand he and he ended up in buffalo new. York. where he lives in, he lives in foster care eventually lived with the man named Reverend William L. Foster fundamentalist minister is family while living with pastor foster. He joined a gang called D. cracks skulls. I'm guessing pastor foster was unaware of this. And how was Your Day Young Donald goodpastor foster me and somebody who cracks skulls carjacked woman in Allentown Liquor. Store Broadway Elm. Well, glad to hear you've made some friends in Buffalo Donald breakout. To freeze was quickly arrested for stealing from parking meters. Then for stealing a car, the state of New York decided to give the kid a shot or rehabilitation and send him to a state reformatory in L. Myron York the Almira Correctional Facility was a unique and innovative prisoners time it rejected theories of reform the developed the nineteenth century theories at inmates should be silent obedient spend all their time You know when they're not reflecting on their crimes in single occupation cells, they suspended working elmira different. They believed that approaching reform from a psychological perspective rather than a physical perspective yielded better chances for true reform. Almira used a lot of what we think is of as a fairly logical. Now, like techniques like encouraging inmates with rewards, variable senses according to the criminals background history education. But that mean that everything was candy and sunshine about his time in prison to freeze would say life in the prison as we called it now because it was a juvenile correction facility. Oh, it was nothing but fear and hate day in and day out I would not be part of any of the gangs black or white I didn't hate anyone black or white and they hated me for that. Upon his release nineteen, sixty, three, the now nineteen twenty year old to freeze relocated to the Newark New Jersey area. There he met and married a woman named Gloria Thomas who had three children from a previous marriage. The couple of quick they have three more children and then struggle financially Weird Weird. How strange a dude who kicked out three kids right after being released from prison dude who jumped into relationship Where they you know the lady already had three kids would then struggle with money if only birth control pills would've been around in the sixties. They were actually. that's when they first showed up all that sixty s you know hippie sex was fueled partly by great music and counterculture revolution Tiberius and most by the first reliable and affordable birth control pill to be widely used. Owa. the freeze did not use it and the ended up damn near homeless with Donald only able to find sporadic employment as a short order cook or laborer, and then Donald came up with a great plan to fix everything for himself at least like so many super cool dudes have done that we've covered on time he decided to completely abandon this family. Later he would write, I just couldn't take it anymore. I was slowly becoming a nothing. I would define someone who abandoned their their families being nothing to freeze thaw doing that turn him into something I. Guess. He he he made it clear across the country before getting arrested in nineteen, sixty four, and then returning to his family in. New Jersey. Police stopped him while he was hitch-hiking on San Bernardino freeway near West. COVINA. California on him. They found a tear-gas Pencil bomb. A sharpened butter knife and he sought off Reiffel had all that suitcase sources? Don't say what he was officially charged with I can't figure out why he was charged with anything I really didn't seem like he did anything wrong I mean he's regular dude hitchhiking with a suitcase at a knife, a gun and a pinball. What do not bring with him checking his dangerous you never know what kind of fucking wack job you're run to. You might need a tear gas bomb I need a sharp butter knife. Seems to me like trying to be prepared for getting picked up by some kind of psycho, but the police saw differently. headed. Back to new. Jersey Jackie with his family he'd get arrested for shooting off a gun inside his basement and for having a bomb. Oh I'm sorry officer am I not allowed in the land of the free to shoot off my own gun in a house full of children and make some fucking bombs sorry I forgot I was living in North Korea. Donald later, right. I started playing with guns and fireworks just anything to get away from life and how unhappy I was. He was sentenced to two years of probation nineteen, sixty five he has back out to California makes Los Angeles. Be Grudgingly. He brings us. Would family the change of scenery would only intensify his financial worries in his run INS with law enforcement on June ninth nine, hundred, Sixty, seven, two, please stop to freeze for running a red light. Is Weird on his bike. Runs a red light in his bicycle. They asked for his name he gives them a fake one. Then when they search him, they find a homemade bomb in his pocket and then in the basket of the bicycle defined another bomb and pistol. defrays tells them this I love this it doesn't. He'd found the two bombs and the pistol just laying around and he's just trying to sell them to feed his family, and for some reason, the crazy cops didn't believe him. Oh. Oh, you're arresting me seriously. I I'm sorry that I just leave North Korea for mother. Russia is it illegal to find bombs and guns laying around and? Put them in my bicycle basket and try to make some side cash sell them a little bit it. Oh, it is. Oh, it is illegal to sell bombs to people on the street Okay. Well, sorry. I don't have every single memorized. Is Given three more years probation. The probation officer interviews to freeze writes that he's deeply troubled. By this case, I bet they keep finding you find bombs this guy. Earlier probation report describes to freeze as schizoid per se schizoid personality with strong schizophrenic potential who has a fascination with firearms explosives psychiatric officials of the prison testing center where he's briefly sent after his arrest recommend that he be jailed because his fascination with firearms and explosives makes him dangerous. He sounds dangerous. And then while this case is going to court, MR freeze is arrested again on December second nineteen, sixty seven. I WANNA kind of bullshit trumped up charge. He'll have thrown at him this time. A prostitute complains a threatened her with a pistol and demanded money according to the police report arriving at the motel to investigate the police say they found a pistol stolen from a store in nearby torrents and then other stolen weapons in the trunk of Donald Carr and how do they get their? You know what he fucking found. Them is illegal to be really good at finding guns and bombs laying around you would think in a good. They'd give him a medal for finding that style before kids founded in hurt themselves. But no in the United States of Fascist motherfuckers you get arrested for doing good deeds. Everyone knows being absurd right also. To freeze initially avoided rest by jumping from a second story bedroom window, he's captured four days later, and then to avoid serious prison time he rats on an accomplice and leads the police to Ronald Colman's house where they find nearly two hundred weapons stolen from a surplus surplus store. and then. Donald doesn't get any trouble doesn't get any further troubles gives me for a long time. He's not arrested again for another four months. On March tenth nineteen, Sixty Eight, he's charged with burglary in Inglewood on August sixteenth. Nine hundred sixty eight HR still motorcycle on March Twentieth Nineteen Sixty nine he gets in trouble for finding on the ground, a loaded nine millimeter rifle with thirty two rounds in a magazine. Probation had been modified months earlier in December thirteenth nineteen, sixty eight to forbid possession of firearms or bombs but still doesn't go to jail for any of these crimes. Why? Because the police finally woke up and realized it's not illegal to be good at finding stuff. No. As to why he wasn't picked up immediately put in jail for these crimes many have speculated. The freeze wasn't informant for either the LAPD who in the sixties were beefing up their surveillance or surveillance on radical groups particularly. Marxist and black aligned organizations or even CIA or FBI who also had interest in these organizations and Donald being both black and Marxist did run in these circles according to author Brad Schreiber who wrote revolutions end the Patty hearst kidnapping mind control, and the secret history of Donald to freeze and the SA to freeze was a former lapd informant running guns to setup. Black. Panthers. Not, everyone thinks to freeze was an informant though legal analyst, an author Jeffrey Tobin who wrote the account on the O. J. Simpson case that was adapted into the first season of fx is nine emmy winning American crime season disputes, aspartame. Riding, the Donald, freeze was to bit incompetent criminal who in Los Angeles tried to work off a beef like a lot of criminals do by telling the cops he knew about other criminals the idea that he was some sort of secret agent for the government is just absurd. So was he or was he not some kind of informant? We don't know nobody does for sure. Seems Weird that he just keeps getting. You know nothing more than parole even though he's arrested just continually. By the late spring of nineteen sixty nine to freeze has abandoned his family once again finally, weight off his back. He's sick. He's sick. He's taking them holding them back from committing crimes on May nine, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, nine, the Newark Police report the freezing, a companion Ralph Cobb have kidnapped and threatened. Alfred Witter's caretaker of the Temple of. Banana. Abraham. The police said the to a driven Mr Witter's around with a shotgun to his head claim to be Black Panthers and demanding five thousand dollars from the rabbi of the synagogue that they felt that they needed to secure the release of another Black Panther. Ralph COBB was tried and acquitted, and then a memorandum from the prosecutor's Office. Memorandum decided to drop charges against Mr Free. Since they believed he'd soon be incarcerated in California for other crimes anyway. So he gets away with another crime and he doesn't get thrown in prison in California for these other crimes but he does get arrested again on October Eleventh Nineteen sixty-nine, some police officers in Cleveland spot to freeze on the roof of a bank building he's carrying two pistols and an age dagger that he has found. Dangerous weapons he found while taking a leisurely stroll the happen to be on the roof of bank thinking about how he was getting his act together and GonNa do right by his family. So the police of course, give him a key to the city. No after he's caught, the police find a burglar's tool kit and a hand grenade nearby Weird Donald claimed he didn't know anything about these things. He definitely didn't know how someone who put his fingerprints over. He puts a five thousand dollar bond and leaves for Los Angeles. Again, it gets away with this. It's way with doing some Super Shady Shit doesn't get arrested for this or you don't track him down. On November seventeenth nineteen, sixty nine to freeze is wounded in a gunbattle outside a bank. Of America, branch in La finally gets in some real trouble he's arrested convicted of having stolen a thousand dollars cashier's check sent to the California. State prison in Vacaville fifty, four miles northeast of San Francisco Hearst Country Kiss, Ya ya about to connect to freezes story to her family. In this prison, he joins an inmate organization called one hundred percent innocent guys who can't help being super good defining bullshit. Nas Not right. Now the group called Black Cultural Association, which stresses African Heritage and pride at its weekly meetings. It's here that the intellectual seeds of what would become the Symbionese Liberation Army are planted into freezes might be. At, Vacaville was a group that would take black prisoners, introduce them to liberal white college students who didn't talk about the black prison experience in their university work and many of these college students happened to be very, very Marxist. To Members Program are William, Wolf, and Russell. Little members of a radical political group called the Vince Ramos Spanish for we will overcome or they'll a term closely associated with the Chilean Socialist Movement. These two Yahoos later become members of two freezes, SLA Future SLA members, Angela Atwood Nancy Ling Perry also visit Vacaville to meet with radical prison groups while to freezes imprisoned in is these young radicals these black prisoners no matter what they were actually incarcerated for political prisoners oppressed by racist and corrupt American society and a lot of black Americans were being oppressed by racist and corrupt White American majority culture that doesn't mean that Donald to freeze specifically wasn't fucking Durbeck. He didn't get framed and thrown onto death row he got away with doing a lot of dumb shit. It was a family abandoning violent looney toon who couldn't stop making bumps. Before leaving Vacaville prison to freeze broke away from the black cultural. Association started his own Program called Yuna site who stated purpose was a study of the black family. The recent family abandoned her is now a family advocate this motherfuckers too much. December of nineteen seventy, two degrees was transferred to the dead prison until the day California he won't stay long. He escapes just months later on March Fifth Nineteen, seventy three. So he can return to his family. No, he doesn't do that, but he does escape. Very easily, he basically just walked away. To freeze had a good prison record had learned the trade of boiler repair. He was able to fool the authorities into giving him minimum security status and then one day while he was unsupervised supposed to be just working on the boiler and some stuff. Is Walkout slept just didn't come back. After escaping to freeze made his way to Oakland California where he was hidden in house by two anti-capitalist college kids, Willie Wolfe and Russell Litter little those people who had visited in prison They took him to the House of Twenty Three Year Old Patricia. Ms Moon. Soil stick or sold sold a sick a Berkley student daughter of pharmacist and self. Radical feminist and revolutionary dedicated to subverting the dominant capitalist pig paradigm of America. For the next several months Donald. Family man to freeze and Ms Moon Faulk just go at it like rabbits and also sometimes work on Symbionese Liberation Army Literature Donald Lives with Ms Moon for several months through her he meets Camilla Hall twenty-eight-year-old Berkeley Artists and communist and a deep dive into Marxist revolutionary thinking ensues. The semi's Liberation Army is now officially formed. So let me give a quick overview of this group who they became then it'll be timeline time. The symbionese Liberation Army also called United Federated. Forces of the Symbionese Liberation Army was a small group of multiracial militants who consider themselves members of a vanguard army basically small army that would force her lead. America's masses to revolt and overthrow their corporate overlords. Logo was a seven headed Cobra pretty sweet. And the group's motto was death to the fascist insect that preys upon the life of the people. Fuck Yeah. You know someone got a real solid high five coming up with that one I would love to hear snippets of the brainstorm that came up with that motto like what what didn't accept it. Is Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I got I got it. I got how about Her male. Harm comes to the fascist baby who sucks upon the teat of the poor more than a baby should suck therefore, not leaving enough milk for other less fascist babies who an ideal communist society would all get an equal and satisfying amount of breast milk. Mill you jive Turkey Lemus Fuck Peter. Way. More. Powerful. Less wordy. Okay. Okay. Hold on. How about? Death to the capitalist spider fascists who spin their web and catch weak helpless commie flies what? No it's terrible. That makes us look really bad Peter. Who wants to join a revolution led by weak helpless Commie semi's liberation. Army, flies you're right. You're right. Can we five minutes? Let me just keep working this bug angle? Let me just keep working this bug angle. If you're wondering what Symbionese means. I didn't mean a damn thing nineteen, seventy two. Because Donald hadn't made it up until nineteen, seventy three according to the group's Manifesto Symbionese was taken from the word symbiosis, a body of dissimilar bodies and organisms living in deep and loving harmony. But really never about love and harmony a freeze not only came up with the name for his new group of radicals yellow came up with a new name for himself is about to be referred to as general field. Marshal Sin Q. He named himself after an African Mindy chief who took over a slave ship eighteen thirty s and freed himself and others. Pretty Sweet. the original Josephson Cue. was actually pronounced a sink. A rumored to himself had become a trader in Africa after winning his own freedom. Maybe. Could have picked a better name. I don't know there were initially eight members of the SLA the freeze being the only black member and the only member who came from a low income household or had a criminal record the seven. Were Caucasian middle class or upper middle class men and women raised in. You know nice households most of them fresh out of college who then adopted Swahili names and took up arms for the self-styled Symbionese Federation Nancy. Ling Perry went by the name Fayza Patricia Socialistic Call Herself Zoya. Bill. Harris decided to call himself tico Emily Harris went by you llandough Angela Atwood wet by Galina Russell Little Swahili name was. OSCEOLA. Joe Ramiro renamed himself Bo. William. Wolf. Called Himself Cujo, and Camilla Hall went by Gabby. So the SLA quickly routed having eighteen members along with a handful of associates and sympathizers, and they were they were prepared to bring America to its knees. Listen up capitalist pigs. We don't want to wage war. Fall you. All your senators and Congressmen. Don't leave Capitol Hill tonight. If the White House is now vacated by midnight. Tonight. If the Pentagon doesn't send work for the entire U. S. military industrial complex to stand down immediately, we will find so many guns laying around on the ground. We will use them to bait this nation in the blood of the revolution. CAN YOU DIG it? We have almost twenty mostly misguided, well, intentioned young suburbanite hip cats who may have never even been a fist fight let alone gun but they are prepared to pupil. All Day and all night until the new of groovy natural nation is born and incite came you dig. You get. Is Group. Boy. I. Just I just can't imagine what it's like to be around their meetings. Right? It's like all these frankly really soft like. Middle class way kids. Still fucking hard you know the SLA did really WANNA change my shit big way they wanted to close all prisons monogamy destroy all other institutions that have made an sustained capitalism. They went big pretty lofty goals for small group. There were dedicated to Marxism into revolution and as much as I mock them they were actually pretty organized they would come up with and carry out a plan to take not only an heiress to a massive fortune hostage, but they would take much of American media hostage well. Okay. I think we know enough about the hearst Family Patty Hers Donald Jeffries escalate in the general vibe with the counterculture in the Bayer in seventies now. So we can get into timeline. Let's jump into the time line starting off in nineteen, seventy three with the formation of the SLA. But before we do, it is sponsored time question meet sex. When we multivitamins do we actually know what we're taking. We all deserve the truth about what we put into our bodies. 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It takes the theory that the freeze was You know some kind of government informant, even further building on the work of private investigator Lake Healy, who may have dug into the Patty hearst kidnapping deeper than any other single investigator some authors and alternative media have developed theories that the. was a fully controlled CIA assassination squad with the Black Panther. Party as its main target. Under this narrative, the SLA originated within California prisons where to freeze was sent as an informer to infiltrate incarcerated radical groups, and then set up his own organization like all was all this plant. This theory states that Donald to freeze was sent into prison by the CIA and the Black Cultural Association was used to monitor radicals among both visiting students in prison inmates the CIA. Created the black cultural. Association at Vacaville Facility as part of developing the SLA a phony left-wing group upon meeting radicals after prison escape and before he was incarcerated to freeze was known for his eagerness to sell firearms, explosives and related related items all stuff he found but seriously, how did he get all the shit? His means of consistently acquiring weaponry has never been fully explained. Was He trying to set up sting operations according to this theory he was never sent to prison for earlier weapons charges, and he always had access to weapons because he was being given weapons by the CIA why to gain the attention of the Black Panthers so that he then infiltrate their group and then helped the CIA take them down from within now do I believe this not necessarily but I don't think it's impossible. The. CIA has done all kinds of crazy shit to take out groups. It deemed a threat to the US government. They did have a black radical groups in the sixties and seventies in their crosshairs for sure and before that fifties forty s you know all kinds of stuff that they've done If nothing else this is an interesting theory. Is wanted to share it before I move on after several months of weapons training at their safehouse the SLA committed its first Revolutionary Act on November six, nine, hundred, seventy, three, they ambush and murder Oakland, School Superintendent Marcus Foster, and seriously wounds deputy Robert Blackburn why would they do this? Foster had just three years earlier become the first African American School Superintendent of a large school district in American history. He'd received national awards. Then he got shot eight times at the age of fifty with hollow point bullets that had been packed with cyanide. He'd been a a National Award winning principal the SLA shot mistakenly or mistakenly excuse me targeted him for his support of an ID system for Oakland students an ID system designed to keep non student drug dealers off campus the SLA target foster because they believed he supported the measure to institute oppressive security measures, schools, including more police presence. There were this the program it was built around these ID's he did not foster did advocate initially for the ideas, but then rescinded his support weeks before he was assassinated. This. Crime to me shows how crazy donald freeze and his followers were in the name of standing up against white oppressors capitalist oppressors they kill black man working his ass off to keep black students safe from drug dealers a guy focused on the education of black students. The S. L. A.'s crime announced the group is one capable of committing violent acts in the name of revolution. It also brought down the scorn of the Berkeley left most of whom found the political murder of a black man by a black led organization incomprehensible. If you follow the CIA plan theory. Then you could argue that this was done intentionally to you know. To just harass the black community I guess on January Tenth Nineteen seventy-four SLA members Ross Little Jo Ramiro or arrested traffic cops, SLA weapons and propaganda found in their possession. Fearing the house will be rated Nancy Ling Perry sets fire to the group safe house and goes underground. Please find the safehouse scorched but not burned down. Leaving significant amount of evidence of what the group was up to and who some of them were. Whoops. I'm guessing, Nance Qatar. Asked you bit for that one just Nancy. What did I? What did I say to do in event of the five. Oh snacks at some of our soldiers that I say to burn down the fucking safe house or did I say to kind of scorched some of it and leave the rest unharmed so that authorities are able to get important Intel on a revolutionary organization. what's Patricia hearst of to around this time? When nineteen seventy four began patty was only nineteen. She smoke weed sneaking out to rock concerts at San. Francisco's fillmore auditorium feather in her hair like Farah Fawcett, wearing blue jeans t-shirts with no Bra Flynn. I both think that seventies look hottest by the way. Taylor Fina and pretending to relate to kids who were not raised by billionaires. She just transferred from her little private school to the state school her family practically owned. She was engaged to and living with Stephen. We'd her high school math tutor creepy sounding I know. But. He was only a few years older than her according to reports from the seventies I, think he was like forty three or forty seven. Anyway parents disapproved of her relationship with Mr. We'd and Patty briefly had to pay your own bills kind of for four months. But not really because she lived with Mr Wheat worked at a department store for four months and then reconciled with Daddy. And then immediately quit her job because he agreed to go back to paying for everything. And even we'd was twenty, six, now forty, three or forty seven. And back in Nineteen, seventy, four, twenty, six year old dating in the nineteen year old wasn't actually uncommon not condoning or judging just pointing that out. With their families money she bought expensive artwork Persian rugs pretty much do whatever she wanted. She was living the dream she was going to class when she felt like edge shacking up with her fiance party, our parents time, and then all that would change on February fourth. According to a report prepared prepared two weeks after the fact for the US House of Representatives. Committee. On Internal Security patties kidnapping went down like this at about nine twenty pm on February fourth in Berkeley California two men and a woman force their way into the apartment of Patricia hearst entry to the Ground Floor Townhouse apartment at twenty six three bienvenue Bien. Venue a bien venue. I don't know avenue four blocks south of the campus was obtained by the female SLA terrorist tapping on the glass patio door and asking us the telephone to report an accident. Miss her fiance Stephen. We twenty-six opened the garden door and the woman pushed into the apartment accompanied by two black males one armed with the rifle the other arm with the pistol, and perhaps also a rifle we'd was beaten about the head and shoulders until semi-conscious and tied up Stephen K.. Suenaga twenty-one, a neighbor who heard the noise and ran into the department was also beaten. patio taken into her kitchen tied up and dragged out of the home screaming and fighting the entire time they dumped into the trunk of a one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, three, Chevy Impala some SLA members got into another car to car sped off firing shots at the apartment buildings they rolled away six blocks away they transfer patty to another car abandoning the impala. Kidnapping is swift and violent carried out the words of one reporter with commando like precision Stephen Weed says, the police kidnappers were so coordinated they barely needed to speak to one another. That evening Walter cronkite reports on the kidnapping sparking a national media frenzy. I mean think about how big stories it's almost to the level of of one of Obama's or trump's kids being kidnapped by a group of domestic terrace as one of Bill Gates daughters was kidnapped. Terrified people because it felt like if some group could kidnapped Patty hearst, they could get your kids, it could get anyone. Patty drifting in and out of consciousness and the car would say later that she expected her father to quickly pay whatever ransom these people wanted but that would not be the case. The primary intention of the La was for more than just money. It wanted revenge against a class of people. It saw as oppressors SLA members placed her in a stuffy closet size room with a bare lightbulb portable Kat. No windows in the hot poorly ventilated room in addition to be in place in physically uncomfortable surroundings patty would later claim that members of the SLA became. To psychologically torture her as the days passed they can s- continually insisted that her parents love their money more than her that they would not save her that they were evil capitalists who cared about their image far more than they cared about their daughter's life a freeze AKA general field, Marshal, Sin Q. Aka Captain Lucky Guy Bomb and gunfighter led the others in harassing Patty. He insisted he'd killer himself as if his demands are met. What he doesn't tell her is that he hasn't made any demands yet I have no idea what these Aso's want. on the fifth day after the kidnapping reporters gather at the hearst family mansion in Hillsborough that wealthy San Francisco suburb to interview Patti's parents and they do this every day for for months also on the fifth, the FBI releases composite sketches of the suspects based on Stephen, weed and others descriptions. Two days after patties napping on February six, a letter arrives in the Mail at Berkeley. Listener supported at Berkeley's listener supported KPFA, a radio station in it the states that the group has patty but they list no ransom demands just building a little bit of suspense. The next day on February seventh Patty's father receives a letter from the SA in reads it on live television. The United Federation, the United Federated Forces of the Symbionese Liberation Army armed with cyanide litter weapons served in arrest warrant upon Patricia Campbell hearst. All communications from this court must be published in full in all newspapers and all other forms of the media failure to do so will endanger the safety of the prisoner. Should any attempt be made by authorities to rescue the prisoner or to attempt or harm and he sa elements? The prisoner is to be executed. At the bottom of the paper is written death to the fascist insect that preys upon the life of the people. Of course, gotTA throw that Little Gem in their lot of high fives back of the new safe house. When they hear that shit on the news I told you it would sound cool. You guys doubted my bug angle at first. But that insect line oh, man that is sound as a pound and totally groovy. The family wouldn't here again from the SA for five days. While they wait Patricia continues to be held captive in basically this closet. On February twelfth a message from the SLA is received in the form of a tape recording sent to K. F. Pierre KPFA. the studio played the tape for anyone listening I'll read an excerpt. Greetings to the people and fellow comrades, brothers and sisters. My name is Cinco and to my comrades I'm not a sin. I hold the rank of General Field Marshal in the United. Federated? Forces. Or the Symbionese Liberation Army. The SLA has arrested the subject for the crime that her mother and father have by their actions committed against the American people and you'll press people of the world. Randolph hearst is the corporate chairman of the Fascist Media Empire of the ultra-right Hearst Corporation which is one of the. largest propaganda institutions of this military dictatorship of the military arm corporate state that we now live under in this nation. The primary goal of this empire is to serve and form the necessary propaganda and smokescreen to seal the American people from the realities of the corporate dictatorship with Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford represents in closing I would just say to Mr Hurston Mrs Hurst I'm quite willing to carry out the execution of your daughter to save the life of starving men, women and children of every race. And if as you other naively believed that we will lose, let it be known that even in death, we will win for the very ashes of this fascist nation will marco very grapes. We are the crickets hide in the shadows. The lady blocks won't stop leaning on you and don't really scare you per se but can make you jumpy and then the next time you feel something. You find yourself thinking I won't freak out again because probably the lady bump but maybe it's a spider no thirty bucks or is it I don't know what not a winter too long now now when your head like Lady but David Peter I, told you take the ladybugs bucks shit out of the speech one insect references more than enough. We sound like idiots is a tape. So recording. Okay so I may have added the bug stuff, but the rest of the recording plate as I read it and it was a lot more to it. included in in Q. Statement was a demand that her family giveaway millions of dollars in food to the poor and the needy. Next came, they frightened voice of Patty hearst saying Mom Dad I'm okay. I'm with a combat unit that's armed with automatic weapons and these people aren't just a bunch of nuts. They've been really honest with me but they're perfectly willing to die for what they're doing and I want to get out of here. But the only way I'm going to is if we do it their way and I just hope that you'll do what they say dad and just do it quickly and I mean I hope that this puts you a little bit at ease and that you know that I really I really am all right I just hope I can get back to everybody really soon. Later. In the day, Randolph hearst makes a public statement and addresses his daughter directly. He tells that he's doing everything he can to get her out of there to take care of herself. Runoff hers is in contact with the FBI but he assures padding or kidnappers. No. One's GonNa bust in and start shooting cannot imagine how furious he must have been like how much he must have wanted to use his money and influence to destroy anyone associated with taking his daughter. Someone took one of my kids I would want to kill them myself. I wouldn't fuck why did I would just want them to die. Another demand soon followed when Angela. Atwood another SLA member informed the authorities. The symbionese war war council has determined that communication between POW Patricia hearst and her family will come only after the immediate creation of the necessary mechanisms. Russell Little Joseph Ramiro can communicate via live national TV with people and the SLA concerning the full scope of their physical health and all the conditions of their confinement. I love how they act as if they have a war council. By by war canceled you mean, Becky from Minnesota who has Berkeley Philosophy degree and considers not shaving her armpits or radical stand against the man or are you referring to Timothy from Seattle who hasn't worn shoes in two years and has been selling incense candles down by the ferry building before he joined the? SLA. These people think they are I part Randolph hearst is willing to accommodate the SLA's demand he must Godley hate them so much he said he'd do everything he could to get Russell little and Joseph for mural on the air the two members who have been arrested the previous month. However the FBI says, no, they're not willing to allow this. They think it's only gonNA, feed the leadership's. And make them even more dangerous. Like the right call on February thirteenth speaking to reporters camped outside his house. Randolph. Hearst reply to the SA demands saying that they were impossible by this time the S. l., A.'s constant barrage of accusations about how horrible the hearst's are are beginning to take their toll on. Patty? They've convinced her that our parents You know our negotiating for her ransom trying to spend less money. This makes her incredibly sad and scared I mean make sure they do they really care more about their money than about her life and then things get worse for Patty reports come in of a heavily all of armed FBI agents raiding a house where they thought Patty was being held petty filter parents were recklessly allowing the FBI to risk her life. Right Her dad said that they weren't going to do these raids. While extending the media coverage in performing for spectators she wasn't entirely wrong about the performance part pettis mom had done this weird thing she had taken to wearing black all black and speaking of Patty in the past tense. Her daughter hasn't even gone for two weeks yet. As pretty strange, how would you be if you were kidnapped and then like ten days later, your mom's on TV dressing all black talking about you like you're already dead. Worse her mom had ignored the demand by or one of the demands by accepting another appointment from then governor Ronald Reagan to be region of the University of California the ESA had told the hearst to sever their ties with Reagan the fascist. Patty said later I felt like I could have killed her when she did that my own Mother didn't care whether the SLA shot me or not. Only ten days in Patty starting to believe her family really doesn't care about her almost two weeks after her capture on February Sixteenth Ucla releases another taped message I or from hearst. And this one reveals a shift in her attitude towards her captors. She says I'm being held as a prisoner of war and not as anything else I mean I'm being treated in accordance with international codes of war also since I'm an example and it's really important that everybody understand that you know I am an example and a warning, and because of this, it's very important to the SA that return safely and so people should stop acting like I'm dead mom should get out of her black dress that doesn't help at all just hurry by. Feel she wanted to go off harder on her mom there clearly mad mom stopped making it all about you. Selfish Bitch I the one who kidnapped you sympathy for. February Twentieth Nineteen Seventy Four Marks Patty hearst twentieth birthday on third audiotape to freeze demands at the hers spend six million dollars on feeding the hungry. Randolph hearst replies at six million is beyond his capabilities. Later, his representatives proposed a compromise and offer two million upon the immediate release about he hurts and then an additional two million in January of Nineteen, seventy five. The SLA. Of course rejects this counteroffer and Randolph hearst announces that he will indeed be putting a sizable portion of his fortune towards feeding the hungry as they have asked. Quickly makes arrangements for two million dollars to be donated to a local charity and creates a distribution plan called people in need pin and just four days. Hearst and others create one of the largest private volunteer organizations in the history of the US. Almost four thousand people volunteer to help give out food PIN director. Ludlow Kramer expects at the program will be able to feed one hundred thousand people for twelve months with the two million dollars. Still, alive. These assholes but kind of cool that they got to do this as opposed to just giving them the money I mean, this is kind of some robinhood should here. Men. In the FBI criticize hearst decision to give into the terrorists her doesn't care. He's in the it's my daughter and I will do whatever it takes camping I gotta respect that. On. February twenty-second to first disastrous attempt to distribute food for patties. Freedom occurs crowds form around the hunters point distribution site in West Oakland. Soon, riding breaks out leading to dozens of injuries and arrests response. The Attorney General for California makes the following statement in the future. Every crime committed in connection with the kidnapping will be prosecuted. If it's done a response to extortion or kidnapping will encourage the local district attorneys to prosecute under existing law and if they don't we will. After. The food distribution, another tape statement by Patty hearst broadcasts, and it reveals our attitude continues to shift torture parents and society in general. In this third statement, she says Mom Dad. I've been hearing reports about the food program so far it sounds like you and your advisors have managed to turn it into a real disaster. You said it was out of your hands. You should have said was that you wash your hands of it. It sounds like most of the food is low quality no one received any beef or lamb anyway it certainly didn't sound like the kind of food our family is used to eating. The flock I mean they gotta be so sad for obviously home but also like what you just fucking say. Oh I'm sorry I with four days notice I didn't feed one, hundred, thousand people the way you preferred. The statement makes a lot of listeners wonder what the fuck patties up to rumors began to spread that she has staged her own kidnapping in order to join the SLA and a quick note on this rumor. Healy that private investigator I mentioned earlier he did think before he died that Patty hearst had met with Donald freeze while he was in prison months before napping as other students did and that she was in on this whole thing from the very beginning that was all staged. Why would you do that? He Lethal Patty pole-day colossal spoiled rich girl gets real mad daddy move the she was furious. With her father because she had dated a black man before she started seeing her math tutor, we're kinda. Creepy Guy and her dad found out confronted her and strongly disapproved, and then she and daddy had a big blow up over her also having very far left political views. You know I e socialist to the point of being communists that directly opposed her father's very far. Right staunch capitalist views. And then she pulled his whole thing off just to get back at him. Now do I believe this now really never been proven. But again, I kinda CIA Steph asks possible now to some degree also again, entertaining theory I mean how crazy would it be if she helped orchestrates tire thing I doubt I doubt she could pull off older and get away with it. And going forward, you probably operate on the on the premise that she did not help plan her own kidnapping back to February twenty-second Nineteen, seventy four. Reporters asked Math Tutor Stephen. We'd for insight into Patty, state of mind and he responds I can see that she may actually be having her doubts as to you know from her point of view it may look like we've made a mess of things. Previous to the last two months, I would say that she really didn't have a political point of view I. Think by the time this is over, she's going to have some sort of political view. Thanks for that. Thanks for that Steven Great Sites two years after the kidnapping a rolling stone article would speculate that by degrees her disillusionment with their parents turn into sympathy for the SLA. But more may have been going on with Patti than simple disillusionment she been kept that small closet room for a month. Now become mentally physically emotionally week she could barely stand up to get out of the closet. She had to attend the SLA's Daily political study sessions where she would have to listen to the national anthem they would read her statistics and. Quotes from like George Jackson Russell McGee to leftist writers arguing that less than ten percent of the US population control ninety percent of the wealth that some people eat catered meals while other starve that some can afford fancy lawyers while others just rotten jail than some live off their haired ince's or other squalor and despair, and all of that is true no argument there. However would all of these evils be cured by communism? That's what kills me about these kind of arguments. So many people starved under communist regimes. Can the world you know suddenly turned into one big idyllic kindergarten classroom where everyone shares toys and eats the same snack. There's no more capitalism me and Django don't think. So we think communism carries the incentive to innovate or to put in more hours more blood sweat and tears, and your competitor to make a better product that not only financially benefits yourself. But also improves some improve society in some way like by creating jobs but the SA. They thought some Marxist. System could cure all of America's ills and they pushed us believe on Patty hearst hour after hour day after day. And many things that this completely brainwashed her after month or so in study sessions attacked her family personally over and over again, they showed her a list of the current family holdings nine newspapers thirteen magazine's fourteen radio stations, a Silverman, a paper mill, many prime pieces of real estate on and on and on. It told her the she was clearly part of the ruling elite how dare her parents create thousands of jobs and build an empire or are they doing living the American dream? How dare forefathers become more successful than peers? SLA members told Patty that nothing mattered to her parents more than money. They told her that her parents and the economic class they represented were to blame for her misery and the misery of countless others and the only way their love for money could be conquered with. And violence. They, hugged her called her their sister by all accounts made themselves into her substitute family. They began to make not just a political connection with her but an emotional one. And by the end of February she was more of an SLA member than a captive within a month of being taken and held hostage also establish a sexual connection with someone in the group not surprising given that she was twenty in the group adamantly believed free love she began sleeping with twenty three year old Willie Wolf Aka Cujo. Wolf was the closest padding age and background. The son of Pennsylvania doctor he'd attended private schools is whole life been varsity swimmer sports editor of the school paper. He spent a summer working with kids in Harmelin an excuse me in Harlem then spurned the Wolfe Family Yale tradition and enrolled in Berkeley. At Berkeley where he'd room with SLA member Russell little and met Cinco. On February twenty eighth, the second pin food distribution goes on as fewer problems in the first. ludlow Kramer would later recalled that the program gave away thirty thousand dollars worth of top quality food to Oakland's poor. Crazy the actually did pull this off they made a billionaire feed cities poor. On March, Fourth California Governor Ronald Reagan having earlier predicted that no one would take the food from pin accuses the thousands of people who line up for free groceries of aiding and abetting lawlessness. And thousands of California's poor are undoubtedly heard same super clever things like fuck Ronald Reagan. On March Fifth and eighth and third and fourth pin food distributions take place her still have no idea where their daughter is. In a fourth tape released on March Ninth Patty hearst heard criticizing her parents Saint I. Don't believe that you're doing anything at all the what are you? What are you talking about their? And people. Try. They're giving away millions. What am I in for appearance? How do you even process your kid being kidnapped and then turned against you? Right you're so happy that they're alive but also you got to be constantly thinking what the fuck. All I ever did was give you an amazing home the best childhood. Now I'm the bad guy. March? Tenth newspapers announced that they will no longer print SLA communicates full enough's enough. For. March tenth to March Thirteenth Randolph hearst secretly meets with Clifford death-row, Jefferson, and other inmates who were SLA contacts at the Vacaville prison. He's desperately trying to find a way to reach his daughter. The discussion seemed to lead nowhere at least not immediately. On March, twenty fifth food is given away yet again on the hearst dime to thirty thousand people in pins fifth and final distribution attempt. On March Thirty First Clifford death-row Jefferson, and other SA. Contacts Appeal to the SLA on behalf of Randolph hearst to begin negotiations for patties release for the first time in over a month. He's hopeful he's close to bringing his daughter home. On April Second Salei sends a note to the San Francisco Phoenix promising more details on the possibility of Patty's released within seventy two hours. There April third less than two months after she'd been kidnapped Patty shocks the world with the following recorded message. Mom, Dad. Tell. The poor and oppressed people of this nation, the corporate state is about to do. Worn Black and poor people that they were about to be murdered down to the last man woman and child. Kill the people of the energy crisis is nothing more than a means to get the public approval a massive program to build nuclear power plants all over the nation. The people that the entire corporate state is with the aid of this massive power supply about a totally automate the entire industrial state, the point, the next five years all will be needed as a small class of button pushes tell the people dad but the removal of expendable accept the removal of a needed people has already started. I've been given the choice of one theme released in a safe area or to joining the forces of the Symbionese Liberation Army and fighting for my freedom and the freedom of all oppressed people I have chosen to stay. I've been given the name to Nia after a comrade who fought alongside shape in Bolivia, it is in the spirit of to me that I say, but tree on wet. then. It isn't a spirit of to me that I say I am the grasshopper I will eat the seeds of capitalist greed. It isn't a spirit that I say I am the carpenter ants carrying small twigs, lead particles and like and things like that back, Beckham my colony like all other soldiers ants working together unlike let's say agreed driven capitalist praying Mantis, who seemed to kind of own thing and not really work with other prey masses for the betterment of all men you dig I mean unless they are in what have you seen manses impairs when do you see those capitalist? Using Creepy Foot Lake Clot. Top things to maybe pass nourishment from one to another man got fucking Peter. We're so sick of this bullshit. Okay obviously the Peterberg stuff was me again. And obviously the entire family is taken aback by this message and also very fun to speak in that cadence with that kind of music in the background would have been fun to put out these measures. An WanNa patties four sisters goes on record saying she was sure that Patti been brainwashed by hearing one side of the story Randolph hearst expresses similar disbelief. You'll be Stephen We'd all I know it was a different time. It's still kinda creepy math tutor McGee. Who had acknowledged that? Maybe there had been a real change in paddy during her captivity saying I am reconciled to the idea that Patty must have matured a great deal in the past two months. I just want to tell Patty that I love her as much as ever and I think she knows that I can accept whatever she has chosen even though it may be hard for me I can accept it. Randolph is hearing this thinking damn. You really want. So my inheritance, don't you? Stephen. Needing to solidify hearst commitment to their cause and get some money to live off of the. SLA. Hastily plans a bank robbery in insisted I participate in it shortly after this last message goes out. On April Fifteenth Patty hearst and four members of the are caught on security camera holding the High High Bernie Hibernia Oh my Gosh Hibernia Bank at Fourteen Fifty Noriega at twenty. Second Avenue. If her family thought that they were shocked before now their minds are really blown five of the bank robbers including Patty entered. The bank will remain outside all make a getaway in two automobiles after firing several shots from automatic weapons and made off with almost eleven thousand dollars. The bank guard would later remark that patty quite comfortable with gun seemed according to him like she was ready to shoot anything or anyone who gotten away. Two civilians are shot during this robbery. Luckily, both will live. Of course, the big question on everyone's mind. Now, as a stories broadcast around the world complete with security camera footage patty definitely joining in on the robbery was whether hers was a witness or actually a perpetrator and no one is as interested in this question as as much as the FBI is the FBI has students at the Berkeley. School for the deaf read Patties, lips the security footage and find out she said I'm to Nia up up up up against the wall motherfucker. Her parents must have been losing their mind at this point. They just witnessed their privileged daughter go from kidnapping victim to a bank robber truly can't imagine. On April twenty third eight days after this bank robbery, the FBI issues a wanted poster with pictures of Donald Davie. Freeze. Patricia Michelle I hate her last name so much salt salsa sick Nancy Ling Perry Cumulus Christine. Hall and Patricia Campbell hearst across the country Americans continue to debate whether or not hearst participated willingly or was coerced. In a six audiotape released on April Twenty Fourth Patty offers evidence of her full participation in the bank robbery. She says that at no time did her comrades begun pointed at her? She now refers to her family as pig hearst's Nice. Pig hearst's and to Stephen Weed is an age just sexist pig she also says. As for being brainwashed the idea is ridiculous to the point of being beyond belief I am a soldier in the People's Army. So she's in she's real in She's one of the most gossiped about people in the in the country. Now, dinner conversation around the US Senate around. Did you hear lease message my got? A week later, may I stain just barely ahead of FBI agent searcher for them SLA members pack up their weapons applies move from a Golden Gate Avenue apartment to Oakland Street in the Bayview district the next day on May second the FBI find the abandoned Golden Gate Avenue apartment just missed him. Two weeks later on May. Sixteenth incident that will confirm too many that patty was indeed now voluntarily a member of the SLA. Patty was sitting alone in a Volkswagen while SA members emily and Bill Harris interest store in Los Angeles patties a fight break out between bill and the store clerk and to prevent the harrises from being arrested Patty shoots twenty seven thirty calibre bullets into the storefront in rapid succession. What the fuck guessing her mom cried a day. quite a bit more. The incident alerts lapd to the fact that the SA is in town, and this is not good for the SLA while the San Francisco PD was most used to dealing with petty crime at that time. The LAPD were a militarized force it had serious experience in both dishing out and dealing with violence. The next day on May seventeenth. Nineteen seventy four, the LAPD FINDS SLA members Donald to free Willie. Wolfe Patricia. So stupid name Camilla Hall Angela Would Nancy Ling Perry in a house in Compton and a shootout ensues with SWAT team members. Rather than risk civilians being shot, and because the SLA members refused to leave the apartment or excuse me refused to leave the house to police set the building on fuck and fire with gas canisters. Holy Shit a TV report announces that anyone in the house must be either dead or dying and the reporters right? All six SLA members die in the Compton. House. One four, six, six, east, fifty, fourth street, and for a while there is speculation that Patty is among the deceased that's not the case. The Harrison Patty hearst watched the shootout on TV from their motel room near Disneyland in Anaheim William Harris recalled. Later the Patty wanted revenge for the raid. Immediately, she wanted to kill some cops for killing both her lover and her leader, and for killing her friends people she now considered her family. She is full fucking SA despite the death of their founder and leader several key members the SLA not over on June seventh nineteen, seventy, four, seven tape recorded message sent to the Press Patty. Hearst offers a eulogy for those killed in the shootout. She proclaims her love for Willie Wolfe and vows that the SLA will continue its noble fight. Math Tutor Stephen, we'd spends most of June seventh. Probably Punching and crying in interest bill. A bill. Harris becomes the SLA's News Journal Field. Marshall, also in June of nineteen seventy, four patty hearst driven to New York, and then to rural. Pennsylvania where she will hide on a farm with Patti Bill and Emily Harris for damn near. Her family has no idea where she is. In November after months of not hearing from Patty, Randolph hearst now withdraws an offer of fifty thousand dollar reward for her safe return he must be so pissed. Does. He no longer see his daughter primarily is a victim now does he see her mainly as a criminal I wonder Finally on April twenty first. So confusing stories. So weird like how would you? There's so little comparable stories to this. It'd be so tough to mostly process all this finally on April twenty, first nineteen, seventy, five, the S. L. A. Resurfaces four members hold up the Crocker Bank in Carmichael. California the enter the bank announced. It's a hold up till everyone to. Get down on the floor and put their faces in the rug than a shot rings out Myrna a softball, a forty, two year old mother of two who is there to deposit church collection money shot and killed by. Emily. Harris another. SA member announces that at the rest of the bank banker customers don't cooperate everyone will get the same treatment as Myrna. And two other members jump over the counter start. Grand Cash. Kicked in the head step on their faces. Continually. Shop. Profanity's verbally abusing these people meanwhile patio outside driving the getaway car. During an interview held before her trial later, hearst recalled her involvement in this robbery sane. Most of the time I was with them. My mind was going through doing exactly what I'm supposed to do. I had been educated very well in what to do I had been you know held in the closet for two months and you know abused in all manner of ways I was very good at doing what I was told I mean they call a Stockholm Syndrome and post traumatic stress disorder and you know I had no free will. It was considered wrong for me to think about my family and Winston was around he didn't want me thinking about rescue because he thought that brainwaves could be read or that you know they'd get a psychic to find me and I was afraid even for that. It was a very strange group of people bound by. The SLA. Codes of war and they follow them very religiously. I was not inside the bank. Finally, five months after this robbery patty is captured by the police on September, Eighteenth, nineteen seventy-five SLA members, Patty and Emily Harris and Wendy Yasha Mirror Yasha Moore. Are Found it's six twenty, five more street and San Francisco Patty Been, missing for five hundred, ninety, one days over nineteen months. Cooperation, between the San Francisco PD and the Federal Bureau of Investigation Lead Her capture FBI agents who have been taken out of house onto eight eight percent of avenue in the burn heights district on a tip spotted bill and Emily Harris walking down the sidewalk in jogging attire. Bill was an easy takedown emily tried to run they. Both are apprehended at the same time, FBI agents, Tom Pat, and Tim Casey Golf The backstairs street. Where they can see the living room and kitchen through the Dutch door they see Patty and Wendy Yoshimura sitting at a table inside Patty starts to get up and agent padding yells FBI freeze I'm GonNa Blow Moosehead off agent Tom Casey Chimes in Saint Patty. Don't make a move that he does not make a move and agent patent goes inside and puts cuffs on her. Tom Casey ask Patty what she was doing there. When she replies I'd rather not tell you about it. To quote. Being booked. The officer asked her for her occupation shelter replied urban guerrilla. I laughed so hard when I first read I'd rather not tell you about it. that. To me is such a rich kid to say to the police somebody who's had such a privilege childhood. You want to do you mind telling me why I pulled you over today. Ma'am. I'd rather not tell you about it. Upon hearing that, Patty been found her family hired a well respected California attorney Terence Hallinan to defend her and patty struck Helena is a genuine SLA member. Helen had prepared. A defense of involuntary intoxication. Pay would claim that she'd been given drugs. The drugs helped convert her to their ideology, but Patti's parents didn't want drugs involved in the defense. They were too worried about the reputation they said the defense should stick to dress and brainwashing and nothing else Helen and kept telling the family that wasn't a defense, but the I would not listen. On February Fourth Nineteen seventy-six, six trial begins two years to the day after her kidnapping. By the time, a defense team has rejected numerous offers by the prosecution to strike a lenient plea bargain because prominent attorney F. Lee Bailey who joined the defense team was confident. He could win the case the hearse again worried about the reputations wanted Patty declared completely innocent of all crimes so they go to trial. Judge Oliver J Carter presides over the trial and Patty is charged as an accomplice in the robbery of the Hibernia Bank I can say that earlier why? Patty herself later admitted that she expected to be charged with murder. All of the prosecution had footage of for holding a gun at the scene of the crime. Patty pled not guilty. She claimed that she been brainwashed into acting against her own will and therefore could not be held guilty for what she had done. And defending his client barely examined a team of witnesses and otherwise who testified that her showed all the symptoms of Stockholm Syndrome? A rare psychological disorder which a kidnapping victim begins to identify with their captors. Term. At the time of the trial and we'll break down You know this term further after the timeline. Bailey, also claimed that she suffered from POW survivor syndrome. No now is PTSD. Paley said that Bailey said that above all patty had feared for her life in cooperated with her kidnappers merely to survive, but it didn't play well with the jury. Patty had been an SLA member from seven weeks after her kidnapping until she was captured. Now, eighteen months after her an initial kidnapping, the first statements, her issued following the bank robbery in which he seemed to strongly identify with SLA's cars didn't sit well with the jury should close personal ties de Soleil members especially, Wolf. She's she wore a stone almac monkey-face pendant that will lead given her. She just didn't seem like someone under any duress also, even if Bailey could convince jurors that hearst had been brainwashed that alone was not considered a defense under federal law. And then there was Dr Joel Fort Psychiatrist brought him by the prosecution who testified that he considered hers to be a prime candidate for SLA membership. He felt that she had stayed in the group and committed crimes with them definitely own free will. Ford stated that he felt it patty had found a community and the SA. He noted that her background was similar to many other SLA members who'd come from comfortable upper middle class homes forts. Expert testimony was incredibly damaging to Patty's defense, but perhaps the most damage was done by patty herself time and time again on the witness stand, she gave mono-syllabic answers to lengthy questions. She seemed disinterested she invoked her Fifth Amendment right not to answer questions over and over again because she was afraid, she might incriminate herself. She did a total of forty two times after it was all said and done the jury debated for just twelve scooby thought it was minister my nose she debated for twelve very intense hours. Before finding hearst, guilty of armed robbery and the use of a firearm to commit a felony in the end. Many jurors thought Hirst lied about her role in the SA one juror concluded that hers was lying through and through and that no woman would keep a love token from someone who abused her hearse repeated taking the I didn't sit well with yours one explained it was a real shocker. A witness can't just tell you what he wants to tell you and not tell you what he doesn't want to. Hearst was sentenced to seven years in prison for her crimes. She would serve just to in February nineteen seventy-nine newly elected. President. Jimmy. Carter Commute her sentence to time served I'm sure having super rich capitalist fascist pig parents helped with that You know little favor. Then more than twenty years later in the last days of his time in office Bill, Clinton grants hearst a full pardon. Two months after her release from Prison Nineteen seventy-nine hearst Mary's Bernard Lee Shau, a policeman who is part of her security detail during her time on bail, they will go on to have two children, Gillian and Lydia. No word on what happened all Stephen. We'd Oh poor math tutor he just kind of disappears from the story. Patty would go on to do a bit of acting appearing in some feature films for director John Waters who cast her in crybaby serial, mom pecker dirty shame, and CCB demented after patties arrested yesterday officially dies out everyone in the group ends up either dead incarcerated or goes into hiding only to be tracked down at some point by the FBI and imprisoned later today only one SLA member is still alive in jail. The rest are either living free or dead. The this group changed some lives forever in terrible ways it never became into instrument of lasting change that it's few radical believers envisioned a report once asked member Bill Harris after he spent years in prison, what did you accomplish and replied nothing? mainly. What we accomplished is we got ourselves into jail. Randomly in two thousand, Seventeen Patty hearst took home two titles at the Westminster dog show according to The New York Times. Pretty, random. Petty is also comedian podcast or actor and TV host. Chris Hardwick Law. Chris married her daughter actress and model. Lydia hearst in two thousand sixteen Chris. I used to have the same manager and do some tapings together years ago small world. what else is patty hearst up now don't know sixty six year old mother to keep a pretty low profile. Top part of the time line and take a look at the Stockholm Syndrome. Good job shoulder, you've made it back. So, what is Stockholm Syndrome and DID PATTY HABIT? Well, it's made of disease and no, she did not time now for today's top five takeaways. By. Come on now. The super annoying. Any of the show it's not calm. Syndrome is a psychological response wearing a captive began to identify closely with his or her captors as well as with their agenda and demands. Interestingly, the incident that Stockholm Syndrome gets its name from remains pretty obscure outside of Sweden few know the names of those involved in the kidnapping situation that gave the conditions name. Let's talk about real quick and August twenty, nineteen seventy-three less than a year before Patty hearst was kidnapped four bank-workers, Brigada Lindblad, Elizabeth Old Grin Kristen and mark, and Spin Southstream who worked for. Severe Gays Credit Bank in Stockholm hostage in the thirty two year old or taken hostage. In excuse me taken hostage by there we go. Thirty, two year old career criminal Jan Erik. Also later, joined at the bank by a former prison made career criminal Clark Olofsson. Six days later when the standoff ended, it quickly became evident that the victims had formed some kind of positive relationship with their captors. And one phone call from the bank's vault the country's Prime Minister Olaf Palm a bank employee kristen end mark big to be allowed to leave the bank with the kidnappers when Palmer few she said she was very disappointed with him and added. I, think you're sitting there playing checkers with our lives I fully trust Clark and the robber. I am not desperate. They haven't done a thing to us on the contrary they have been very nice but you know off what I'm scared of is that the police will attack and causes to die. Somehow six bank-workers got into their heads that the police were developed not the criminals how? Hostages spoke of being well treated by the robbers and appears that they believed that the owed their lives to the two criminals on one occasion, a Claustrophobic Elizabeth Warren was allowed to leave the vault that become their prison, but only with the rope fixed around her neck, she said that at the time she thought it was very kind of Ulsan to allow her to move around the floor of the bank. When he treated us, well, we could think of him as an emergency God spend saves from was say and the concept of Stockholm Syndrome was born. The phrase was coined by Swedish criminologist and psychiatrist nils beard. Neal's. Jarrett's maybe hang hang hang is hard just figure out the emphasis and the American psychiatrists Dr Frank Oseberg, intrigued by the phenomenon went onto define the syndrome for the FBI Scotland Yard. His criteria included the following I people would experience something terrifying that just comes at them out of the blue, they are certain they were going to die. then. They experienced type of infant infantilism. INFANTILISM they they become babies. we're like a child they are unable to eat speak or go to the toilet without permission. Small acts of kindness that is being given food promise a primitive gratitude for the gift of life. He explains the hostage experienced a powerful primitive positive feelings towards their captor. They're in denial that this is the person who put them in the situation in their mind. They think this is the person who's going to let them live. In short psychologists believed that when a capture threat captives life deliberates and then chooses not to kill the captive. The captives relief at the removal of the death threat is transposed into feelings of gratitude toward the capture for giving him or her life, and it can take only a few days for this to occur. Dr Augsburg stresses that the the true cases of Stockholm Syndrome are rare. Making, identification complicated there are no widely accepted diagnostic criteria to identify the syndrome, which is also known as tear bonding or trauma bonding, and it is not an either of the two main psychiatric manuals, the diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders or the international statistical classification of diseases and related health problems. Making identification even further complicated some people who many consider as having Stockholm Syndrome deny having it. Austrian Natasha can. Push. Who was kidnapped as a ten year old by Wolfgang, a trickle pill was held in a basement for eight years in a suburb of Vienna. Crazy suck connection here she was trapped in the basement just an hour and a half away from where monster Joseph Frizzell had his daughter and his daughter granddaughters son grandsons trapped in his basement. And there appears of captivity of these periods of captive excuse. Me Overlapped One another for several years what the fuck is going on Austria anyways. When the TASHA's captured died, she reportedly cried for him and subsequently lit a candle for him as he lay in the mortuary but in a two, thousand, ten interview with The Guardian, Natasha, rejected the label of Stockholm Syndrome. Explaining that it doesn't take into account. The rational choices people make in particular situations. She said I find it very natural that you would adapt yourself to identify with your kidnapper. Especially, if you spend a great deal of time with that person is about empathy -cation, looking for normality within the framework of a crime is not a syndrome it's a, it's a survival strategy. Well whatever you WANNA call it. Survival Strategy Syndrome sounds sounds to me like Patty, hearst probably had it. She had a bunch of fellow Berkeley social activists, surrounding her telling her that her life have been allied day after day telling her that her family was what was wrong with America. Feel bad for had she not been kidnapped. She never committed the robbery she did unless you plan to be kidnapped, which we have no real proof of. What story? Donald freeze after being arrested released eight times after radicalized. Perhaps also been radicalized in prison by some Berkeley students eventually formed his own army, a small army, but still army, and they successfully took a newspaper heiress hostage and to freeze was but one of many revolutionaries who came out during the sixties and seventies in America and fans themselves as savior of the working person was. He a savior I mean, yeah. Negotiated some some food to be given to the poor but other than that. He just wrote and recorded a bunch of corporations or evil in the poor tired of being oppressed and some people have way too much money communist rally points that much cheerleading where he didn't do other than get some meals dished out was offer a better way. What exactly was your revolution going to accomplish? Donald. What if you did tear down the robber barons of the seventies did liquidate bank accounts of the hearse and other billionaires then what? What better system of government would you built in its place? What kind of communist would you have built? One my Stalin's US are maybe one like Pol Pot's. Cambodia. Maybe when like Mao Zedong's China or Castro's Cuba Laos. Laos has been communists hear about them a lot since nineteen, forty, five house that worked out. Now, now, well, if you value free speech and if you'd like to be randomly detained after some kangaroo court, no just fucking throws you in prison for some trumped up bullshit charges. A national happiness index global quality life index up and take a peek at the top twenty nations listed. You don't see a lot of communist nations usually zero why if they're so great? Outside. Of the food extortion situation to freezing army were just thugs posing as revolutionaries. Right? They assassinated a gifted education administrator rob banks wounded innocent customers killing one. Also tried to blow up some cop cars. We didn't even get into that right with police in them. in Alpha Wet. Because they didn't like the government. Don't like it go into politics try and change some things as my kinda wants to do I mean he's fourteen. So it's what he thinks he wants to do, but he wants to make things a little better for the common man by put more funding into public education he wants to stop giving massive tax cuts, giant corporations he wants to regulate frivolous litigation so we can all stop. Amounts of money to insurance companies and lawyers, and be able to lower the price of goods and services medical and dental care. Is that you've got a lot of good ideas is he's a little more socialist lot more probably than his dad. You know he thinks my libertarian ideals to radical but I'd vote for him. what about Patty hearst or is her real role in all of this? Stage you're kidnapping with nothing more than a P is hunch hearsay. I don't think we'll ever be able to prove that. Let's say she didn't do it. Let's say she really was kidnapped can't she truly blame Stockholm Syndrome for all of our actions. I don't think. So actually not a hundred percent had she not been kidnapped you know like I would she have robbed banks now highly doubt it but if someone else had been kidnapped, would they have joined the SLA? So enthusiastically I have serious doubts. I think she was a very extreme leftist Berkeley College kid also a spoiled rich kid who didn't know shit about how the world really worked who mad daddy for coming down on her for having different political opinions and interracial dating I. Think She was twenty years old and surrounded by extreme leftist radicals telling her to burn everything down you know and burned everything down was burning mommy and daddy's empire down I. think sort of teenage rebellion. She was only nineteen when she was captured played a huge part and how all this played out had the SLA kidnaps some forty year old nine no fucking way. Join up with them later I think but I've never been kidnapped so easy for me to say. In the end had it not been her fascist pig parents iron hotshot lawyer she probably would have gone to prison for longer than she did. Even though her parents did fuck up defense a bit. After being prison she sure Shit didn't maintain her SLA. Communist. Ideals. those ones you ranted about recording Senate depressed itchy. Now she's she's part of the best show. Westminster dot crowd now as about as boozy is it gets I'm guessing she has a better one time when I was twenty stories than her fellow purebred dog trainers. And that's all I got. Let's wrap up now with today's top five takeaways for real time. Up. Take Away. Number One, the hearst castle I'm fascinated by this place. One hundred and fifteen rooms thirty eight bedrooms forty two bathrooms theater beauty salon giant, Indoor Roman Pool Sixty eight thousand five hundred square feet, and it's only one of several homes built a giant sprawling property complex. Look something built for a fucking Roman emperor. In this complex originally set on three, hundred, seventy, five square miles of beautiful private land. I get why that nerd Stephen we try to stick around for pancakes. That is some serious wealth. Number two, I doubt many saw Donald David to freeze as ever leading group revolutionaries before he actually did is Shitty are breaking dad he got mixed up in crime at a young age became obsessed with guns and explosives. He quickly had three kids. Also the abandoned get arrested a whole bunch of times finally went to prison and then formed a communist group of revolutionaries and then kidnapped the daughter of a billionaire before you know burning alive during a shootout with police at the age of only thirty. Number three after failing to get their buddies out of prison the SLA used Patty as a bargaining chip to have thousands of poor people fed the hearse family paid out millions to form the organization people in need only to have the attempt backfire into riots and have their daughter Patti criticize him for not providing enough beef or lamb nineteen seventy four was a terrible year for Randolph and Catherine hearst. Number Four. Patricia. Went from a rebellious rich girl to a hardcore beret-wearing machine gun toting child of revolution. She was sentenced to seven years in prison but her sentence was commuted by President Jimmy Carter nineteen seventy nine and since then she's pretty quiet life. Number Five New Info William Randolph hearst Patty's grandfather was the basis for a movie that is topped more best films of all time lists than perhaps any other film nineteen, Forty One's citizen Kane and hearst hated this movie. The thinly veiled unflattering biography of a wealthy tyrant was produced by Orson Welles and put all of her character flaws out there for the public to see them his greed has more weakness the effects of his poor behavior on his friends and family even more loathsome to hearst in his allies was the portrayal of Kane's second wife a young alcoholic singer was strong parallels to hearst's mistress. These showgirl turned actress Marion Davies at the kitchen, a preview screening of the unfinished citizen Kane on January third nineteen, forty, one, the influential gossip columnist hedda hopper wasted no time passing along the news to hearst and his associates that the film was obviously about him. And her then used his leverage to get the films advertising out of the press. I never knew papers also went after wells accusing him of communist sympathies question his patriotism, a hearse onto forbid, his media holdings to advertise the film in any way whatsoever many other Hollywood moguls who for the most part didn't like Orson Welles finding him rude and arrogant supported hearst Louis B. Mayer Co founder of metro-goldwyn-mayer even offered to pay our hail pictures eight, hundred, forty, two, thousand dollars in cash. If the studios President George Schaefer would destroy the negative and all prints of citizen Kane just throw it away Bernard get rid of it shaffer refused at threatened to sue. Though be nominated for nine Oscars and ultimately be heralded by critics as one of the best. If not, the best movie of all time hearst managed to destroy premier, an initial profitability many theaters would not run this movie when it came out of fear of being punished by hearst. Orson Welles said that when he watched the premier in the theater, he sat in an almost empty theater. Time Tough Takeaway away. Hearst man has some power and some influence, but not enough to get their daughter way from the SLA not not in a timely fashion. The Kidnapping Patty hearst has been sucked such an odd unique story. Hope you find it as interesting as I do. Very hard to find a similar tale out there right rich kid gets kidnapped by group of domestic terrorists than joins. The gang helps them rob banks. 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Next week on time such is going to get real. Crazy. WE'RE GONNA return to both California and the nineteen seventies to examine someone way worse than Donald. Freeze we return to the annals of true crime and suck on legit psychopath. The Vampire of Sacramento Richard Chase is it going to be like an Albert Fish y'all Kroll ed camper Chikatilo, kind of suck. We touched on this maniac and the FBI behavioral Science Unit Suck. Chases me called the poster boy for the FBI disorganized killer profile district random. So Extreme Jason, just kill he mutilated. He was a cannibal plus an obsessed consumer of blood and NECROPHILIAC fucking triple crown psychopaths. In, a month long murder spree in the mid seventy S. Likes it was like something out of Clive Barker Nightmares. He butchered total is six men women, and sadly even children in the most heinous aways when police searched his apartment, they discovered that nearly every surface within it was saturated in blood from the walls to his eating utensils. Then there were the contents of the refrigerator. Richard Shea said he needed to kill to save himself from what? The answer is pretty hard to believe. Very hard to believe mostly because they don't make a lot of sense because he was out of his fucking mind join us next week for a suck on a truly darken demented mind in real monster the Vampire of Sacramento. Analysis balls deep into today's time. sucker updates. Times. Our first update count from Super Sucker Alexandra. Ceasar just wants to send some positive thoughts and our prayers the way her friend sucker spaces in solid meet sack. Alexandra. Rights Afternoon Suck Masters Supreme I just got some pretty awful news at friend Nathan Fleck has been pretty bad motorcycle accident while we still don't have all the details we know he's been through surgery and is currently in a medically induced coma his lot of good people by his side we're all rooting for his recovery, but it'll be a long road ahead of him. He's a die hard time sucker space Leonard as well as a huge your stand up maybe more so than I am. I I was really hoping that we could give him a shout-out and just let all the suckers send him as many positive vibes as they can't. He's prime example of a great Muzak who's always there for his fellow humans if this gets to you thank you for the read and keep on Sucking Alexandra Caesar while kind and thoughtful of you Alexandra Nathan I hope you can hear this man hope you're fighting with everything. You've got get the fuck out of the hospital before he kept from covid going on your Rehab. You can get back on that bike hurry up. Awesome friends like Alexandra who are tired of about you. Seriously, we're thinking of you. Hope. You can bounce back hard and quick like Reverend Dr Horse Cock. For Roman get better get better soon data with you. top-shelf sack karston. Anderson. Now has a skin. Walker ranch citing to share with US interest is piqued. Carson writes Hello Master Sucker I just listened to the skin Walker ranch suck and would like to talk about an experience. I had with a skin walker while I lived on the reservation I was driving to a lady's House with my companion L. D. S. mission and saw a range dog like figure standing in the street. We exited the car walked lady's House to talk with her we did. So for about fifteen minutes, this dog was standing there looking at the entire time. As we were leaving. The Lady said be careful as we got back in the truck we noticed the dog or whatever the hell it was left. We turned the corner on the side of the road. We saw the same dog like creature getting up offers its is a weird green yellow yellowish color I feared for my life we drove off as fast as We could I know most people don't believe my story but honestly I, saw it. I. Saw I don't care what say hopefully can share the store in the upcoming suck. Give a shout out to my sexy wife Mattie for help me these hard times keep sucking. Sweet suck this. Thank you Karston and Hello Matty Aka Carson's loose Safina. May You forever tempt him? Stories intents shit man fucking. Did you see that dog the Terry Sherman punched? Seriously ill, there are so many stories like yours. So hope this can walk a ranch suck made. You feel good about that in a weird way I mean what the Hell is going on out there. I I kinda. WanNa see what you you saw also kind of. Ever ever ever ever want to see it. Hell Nimrod and hope whatever's going on that's not good. Turned around soon. Now. We have another skin walker citing coming in from a curious cult member. Joel Schmil end our. Shimin. Joel McCoy Joel Joel S. Kind of a skin walker side maybe not as skin Walker Saudi. Totally. But he does he's shit scared him while he listened to the skin. Walker. Suck anyway. Joel writes my hands are still shaking I was listening to this can walker ranch suck on my way home from my shift at the hospital around midnight the part started playing about Terry, his encounter with the Skin Walker Wolf the Erie music was playing as you dramatically explain what happened as a story came to its end of the music started getting louder a deer jumped out into the road and I, let out an audible screech that I am not proud of. The. There was far enough away that I did not hit it and kept my composure driving. So no harm was done except I need new pants. It's aliens knew the exact moment to send out the deer anyway. Thank you Dan in the universe for Scary Nimrod out of me praise bojangles and Hailu Safina all turned out well, Joe Joe. You painted a picture beautifully there fucking dear. Yes they're cute. But dammit, they are minutes on the road because you never know when they're gonNA pop out. Now I'm always in lookout for little beady glowing eyes at night. So many deer road. We just got a new fence and help keep those assholes out of the art. Crazy. How much they can shit so much shit the my dogs like to eat, and then the dealership makes them shit more. It's Shit Cycle I do not enjoy. thanks for sharing that spooky moments. Now, imagine if one of those who stood up on its hind legs maybe roared at you just gone full Wendy go. To Fund Dot. Now for a hateful message from a stupid. Polish Monster Cameron Cochran. This terrible sub human rights. Dear Master Suck Suck. Later, I take an ice polite shit on you. I'd like to say I started listening to times like a few months ago while searching for podcasts have comedy for years but you helped me survive monotonous slog of work this year. So thank you for that with Nice these out of the way time to get into it. This week's episode on Skin Walker Ranch was grading to listen to as a native Utah born and raised in Salt Lake and having recently moved across country to Maryland. I'm naturally very protective and fond of our beautiful mountains. So when I opened up time suck to see a close to home topic. I was excited until I wanted to drive an ice pick through my ear. They are the Utah, not you and Taw and West. Wasatch Wasatch, fucking these fucking stupid words wasatch not was such. It is insane to me that you said Duchenne just fine. I try. But not the mountains for the whole episode anyway just wanted to get my favorite mush mouth a little hell on behalf of my favorite homestate. As a side note, I love you to talk Polish soon to force you to acknowledge the Polish people's value and bad attitude bears carrying artillery undefeated cavalry hundreds of years. VETOED PILECKI super bad s keep on suck and Cameron just another dumb polack listen Cameron I've. About, the mispronunciation just so you know I, I did add a phonetic guide to all those words however between my own regional dialect and the proper dictionary dot com that's not always matching the cloak will prince. Yeah fucking. Blue. Also I am very impressed that you were able to send this message whoever wrote it to has ever to who whoever was able to take your Polish grunts and gibberish and translate into real human words, and then write those words down man Kudos to them because I could not have been an easy job. To. Seriously, we do need some more post topics and there are a lot of awesome pulls out there. We could talk about some awesome Polish people or what about a Polish serial killer there's gotta be some. I haven't. We set some true crime in Poland yet. I. Think of some additional slandering throw your people's way. He'll Nimrod I'll keep on trying to nail those fucking stupid regional words. Staffer mouth was to fina begun temptress. Now, for some contrarian dots and socialism and also on whether or not, we should judge someone by the norms the times they lived in or by some universal and timeless standard of human decency. Always good to take in contrast opinions super, Sucker Joe Messina writes the following. Hey, Dan love the show my wife introduce me to your podcast and stand up. We met almost four years ago I still listen she does not but I still anyway. I have been in and out of Santa for years myself just never got around to make a career of it. Now I request that you check to make sure bojangles leashes secure because I'm an avowed socialist. Oh, I know I know I hope we can still be friends. Actually I, appreciate your show because I know I. can count on you to challenge my beliefs in good faith, which is something we can all benefit from I have a specific topic I wanna, bring up about the Disney suck. So I won't even go into the social nitty gritty I won't for instance, I. Love This. On the fact that waltz well seemed to have actually destroyed family and the much wealth should never be concentrated and his grandkids wouldn't have to rely on inheritance money. If we all had well-funded universal social programs like single payer healthcare and universal basic income or how the modern Disney corporations near monopolization of the entertainment industry is harmful and indicative of the gilded age or the consequences of the type of union busting. Disney. Did I will not be bringing up any of those in this email that was beautiful. What I wanted to challenge you on his notion that we can't judge people by modern standards and have to look past a lot of their negative beliefs and actions because of the time most likely set meet acts have had great beliefs. Beliefs at all times throughout all of history. It's a good point. People, who make the history books like Disney are presented as so impressive for their wealth and power they acquired that we must look pastor unfortunate. But of the time beliefs or at best we view them as complicated rich famous powerful people get to be complicated. Poor powerless people are forgotten. The truth is not everyone the nineteen thirties and forties thought like Disney. That's. What we're talking about him if that's true innovations, it can also be true of is beliefs and practices, and it is take his meeting with right install i. think it's reasonable to write off. This is just business much like I was just following orders. This reason is too often used to justify evil xr associations if we compare wall to Universal Studios Founder Carl alumnae. No guests on that pronunciation I guess to someone in a similar position at the time waltz actions become even less defensible Carl help hell Carl helped around three hundred German Jewish families which came out to over thousand people, Escape Nazi, Germany, and immigrate to the US. He gave many of them jobs universal, which both made it easier to get approved as an immigrant refugee and to get on their feet and their. New Lives. This wasn't easy to pull off, but we're talking about extraordinary people who stand out I'm sure many average joes and Jones had attitudes about nazi-ism similar to waltz and many similar to Carl's I'm not opposed to considering the context of a time period and why historical figure would have held a beliefs they did. But some things are not acceptable. No matter what time period you're in slavery abolitionist him in what is. Now. The US dates back to the sixteen hundreds, which is when the North American slave trade began in northern states started banning slavery soon after the Revolutionary War that tells me, there is little to no excuse for pro slavery stances especially in the by the eighteen hundreds, the southern states made Thomas Jefferson removed his condemnation of slavery from the declaration of Independence Aaron Bird was a fervent abolitionist where's his fucking musical I? Guess. Burr isn't a catchy title side Note Jefferson and Burr both owned slaves. Now that's what I call complicated. It's okay to admire the Work Disney did but it's also Kedah unequivocally say the bad things he did were bad. This attitude of that's just how people used to think not only excuses the crimes of historical figures but encourages ageism in the form of ascribing bad ideas like racism sexism, xenophobia capitalism agree to disagree. Only two people have certain age groups for generations. People have said stuff like we just need to wait for these old out of touch assholes die out. Then we'll sort all this out which raises the fact that there are a ton of young racist bucks out there plenty of sweeties who are sixty years young or more still doing what they can to make the world a better place. Anyway all this really amount to is that we shouldn't deify historical figures because in the end they're all just. Human when we put people on a pedestal them too much power and that never ends well, I'll even my own side here. This is what gets you communist communist tyrants like Stalin or Mao it was Marx's stupid idea that communism she give temporary Tala -tarian power to one person in a transitional phase, and then that person should give said power you know how humans are, oh, you know how humans are always willing to give up power. We see the same problem on display in the US, decades In the US sorry decades of executive overreach have led the trump and the presidency in general having way too much power for one person back to Disney. His wealth and power led to an exploited workforce at a dangerous monopolize monopolized entertainment industry Disney accounted for thirty eight percent of the box office in two, thousand, nine, hundred, and eight out of ten or eighty percent of the top grossing films the same year. Even if you do love the free market I, don't think this is how it's supposed. To work one company controlling everything no competition. I've a friend who did union organizing work for Disney workers and I can assure you much like most use us corporations, the house of mouse fight tooth, and nail to give as little as possible to the workers who generate their wealth corporations have too much power in this country I think I'll give it a rest there. I. Hope you'll consider somewhat I said here because I believe you're at your best you're questioning everything. Thanks for the show. Keep on talking. While so much Info Joe, where do I begin you make a lot of good points about how you you shouldn't give someone a pass on doing something bad just because he did a lot of good. And that it's not good to deify historical figures However, I also want to become part of today's canceled culture and ignore the the good someone is done because he had some bad stuff too. You know because we all have not that that's exactly what you're saying but with this walt and Leni Riefenstahl Did walt. Install in his home give her a tour of a studio. Yes. was she a Nazi sympathizer? Yes. Had the Holocaust begun yet when she came over no was the focus of films hatred of the Jewish people no. Have you ever had someone over to your house who may have been racist probably maybe a member of a political party with other racist members. I bet you have. We can't know what everyone else thinks even friends are you greatly familiar with the political leanings racial opinions of everyone you've ever had over I. Doubt it ever find out something later about someone like Holy Shit I had no idea so and so was racist or misogynistic xenophobic whatever I have. No one's perfect. That's what you're saying But I also hope that I didn't suggest that I thought well, Disney was perfect. I just refused as described as current notion of opiates. So and so had slaves or so and so she on his wife or so and so was racist sexist whatever. So fuck everything they did. Yes certain heroic people do rise above the time they live in and that is beyond admirable but I bet we could find something wrong with most of those people too. If we look hard enough, maybe they stole something and they spread some, you know bad rumors something. To me while Disney being friendly with the Nazi sympathizer, nineteen, thirty eight isn't necessarily a big deal because I know how I was in international politics. Now, we can look back at that year look what happened in Germany and be like what the fuck but did walt no at the time exactly what was going on maybe but maybe not My son category with me for not knowing what's going on all the time. Politically I tell him I don't have fucking time. I work breaking down stories running a business, a good sixty hours plus a week I try and stay current but there's you know there's only so much time and there's so much news out there walt was a busy dude busier than me. He was managing a huge company out so many productions maybe he didn't really know who the hell Leni Riefenstahl was. I doubt. Her first words to Walter Hi I'm I hit the Jews Hiller highly doubt it. So I. Think you see the point of making here. This is why I don't like to deconstruct heroes too much and to nitpick on certain things, I like heroes I like to be inspired I expect them to be flawed. You mentioned getting so much more attention than his workers and I just think he should is it harder to launch a business than it is hold down a job I've done both and I think it is not that there isn't a lot of value hold down jobs and he didn't just launch a business he launched empire. Why do so many of us applaud that because it's very rare. it's rare to hit over sixty home runs in a season in major league baseball. That's why guys do that get paid a lot more than the guys who don't they bring in more fans more people impressed rare and difficult to be so much better. Than everyone else you can average over thirty points a game for a season, the NBA whoever does that going to get paid a lot more than somebody whoever just two points a game thirty point dude sells more tickets exciting to watch and it's more exciting to talk about someone building one of the biggest media empires in the world then in his talk about someone clocking in on ninety five. I mean the empire builder is a better person than the factory worker, fuck? No definitely doesn't does it mean lead leading anymore unique and therefore intrinsically more interesting suck really life does to me should Disney be able to monopolize the entertainment industry? No, I'm a capitalist but I'm also a big fan of antitrust laws. I'm a fan of regulated capitalism I'm a strong proponent and government regulated capitalism which I know goes against some libertarian views. and Y you give me full podcasts worth of points to address your job. You're clearly very smart. Do I so appreciate you listening to a podcast hosted by some with very different political leanings in a different historical perspective than you do. I love contrasting opinions. I. Don't WanNa live in some kind of. PSYCHO FANTASTIC ECHO chamber. That was a big word I tried to pull off. I think about got eighty percent of it There's too much going on right now people just doubling down a belief they've held for years but never really examined people surround himself with people who only think exactly like they do and I fucking hate it I hate mindless tribalism hate mindless nationalism. Hope, this show always has like you are we thinking about your word for quite some time already have been hail fucking Nimrod Mr Messina. We can get along we get along just fine. Thanks for the updates everyone. Thanks. Times. We all did. Thank for tune into another suck appreciate the continued ratings and reviews. The sucks still gross spy mush mouth haven't lost you all yet new dumb comedy podcast on. Wednesday. Thanks for the feedback has been so fun. So, happy. It's only people like it having a blast with Mr Joe more scared to death Tuesday nights at midnight having fun with it creeps in papers over there. Try Not to get kidnapped this week, and if you do don't start robbing banks and striking out against fascist pigs instead I don't know maybe just maybe just keep on talking. We need to, we need to go up on Hawk and go up to the mountain and grab from the Fascist fucking pigs and take the money and just handed out to the poor. We need to drive cool cars in where and leather jackets with fluffy kind of I. Don't know like what is it like a pilot I don't know, but it's like a cooler. And have changed a silk shirts and bill bottom jeans and platform fuck juice with go fishing motherfucking heels.

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84. The Discipline Code

The MFCEO Project

17:11 min | 9 months ago

84. The Discipline Code

"The ongoing project spoken only way. One eighty two fifty. What's up guys did priscilla. This is the show for the real estate by the lies the thickness delusions of modern society. Welcome motherfucking reality guys Today we've got a real talk episode. I know you guys are waiting for me to come and talk about what's going on in the world and i am going to do that very soon but today i have something that i think is even more important than that and i know. It's more important than that. Because what i'm going to talk about today is something that you can take regardless of. What's going on in the world and win with our got all kinds of chaos going on in the world. We've got all kinds of uncertainty and we'll talk about that soon. What the one thing that we all have to do. We have to make sure that we're taking care of ourselves controlling things that we can control in order to move regardless of the drama. That's going on around us. That's what champions do. That's what winners do and that's what this shows about. The show is about creating the mindset to win. This is a show about winning. This is a show about entrepreneurship. This is a show about learning how to be accountable for ourselves and going out and doing the work to win. The show is not about getting free. Shit the show is not about. You know waiting around for someone to come help us. This show is about taking your life into your own hands and going out and executing a right and producing something that your family your friends and you will be proud of and happy with and fulfilled by. And so what. I'm gonna do today. I'm gonna teach you guys something. You've never heard me talk about right. This is the concept that i live by and believe in. But i don't talk about much because honestly most people aren't ready to hear it but before i get into it remember. There is a fee for this show. This is your first time listening. It's gonna cost you something right and this is all on the honor system. You don't have to do it but we don't run ads here. We don't sell a bunch stuff. T i'm not gonna push through fifteen minutes ads or thirty minutes ads so i can get paid. I'm here to help you. I'm here to show you how to do. Some things that i have personally done in my life and You know as a return i ask. The fi fi is when it comes up in conversation and you have a chance to tell people about how your friend andy teaching you how to kick fucking tone right. Share the show. That's how we grow. We don't run ads for the show. We don't run ads on the show. We rely one hundred percent on our audience to share the show. Which i am perfectly comfortable with because i give you everything i got so if you feel like i gave you everything that i got do me a solid and share the show. That's the fee right so onto the main content. One of the things that i've always sag is is that in order to succeed. You have to believe that success is for you okay in other words it's for you not just other people. Success is something that you can achieve. Wealth is something that you can achieve. A fit body is something that you can achieve. Great relationships are something that you can experience the problem. I see time and time again that the average person really doesn't believe these things they look at people who are performers. Let's say professional athletes academy award winners seven. Eight nine ten figure entrepreneurs the movers and shakers the people who are doing shit in real life they look at those people and they say they just have it. They just process that disciplined. That's why they're pe- performers. That's why they'll experience happiness success and i never will. They have a gift that i don't have and that's the problem. We see as a gift and not a skill. Okay is that how you're thinking about it. Audit yourself how do you really think about it. Is that what you're afraid of. Is that why you're hesitant to actually try to become a peak performer guys. I know there's people listening right now. Who wanna start seventy-five hard but deep down. They're worried that it won't work. They don't question the program. They know the program works. They know it's helped. Tens of thousands of people develop the things that that combined to create mental toughness right the disciplined the fortitude the grit the perseverance the ability to endure the self confidence to self-belief etcetera etcetera etcetera. They don't question whether or not the program actually works a question themselves. They wonder if all the people who successfully complete seventy five har- are just quote unquote special people right but the truth is guys. Those people had the potential to become pete performers all along seventy five harshest provided the catalyst for that success. Okay but these people still they worry. They worry that those people who've who've done these things are just different right. But i'm here to tell you guys those people they don't just quote unquote had it right. That's you and that's how you think i get it. I'm not gonna shit on you and say you're weak or accuse you having a negative mindset. Self-doubt is a real thing. We all struggle with it. We all have that bitch voice inside of our head right. Your bitch voice can be well a huge bitch. Winning the battle of your inner dialogue is is the hardest thing you'll ever do in your life. But i want to explain a principal to you. That's going to help you do that. It's going to help a ton it's going to help. You actually believe that success is for you they you can become a peak performer and experience these high levels of happiness and success that you envy when you see other people. The principle is this. It's very simple. There's two levels of discipline okay. There's macro discipline. And then there's micro discipline. I'll explain the difference and then tell you why it's essential to your success that you understand the difference. You guys know just regular do from saint louis right. I'm i'm from south county a normal dude i. I'm cardinals guy. Saint louis is a baseball town. Baseball is religion here lately. The cards aren't nearly as dominant as having to the pass by going to get back to that. The second i just want you know where i'm coming from with the story any rate the other day i was watching Some reruns on espn which you know. We've got a lot of that this year. But i was watching a game. Six of the two thousand eleven world series game between the cardinals and the texas rangers. Now i happen to have been at that game But anybody who knows baseball and his a baseball fan. Even outside of saint louis understands that game. Six was one of the greatest games in world series. History all right. It's just called game. Six people know what that means. There were two iconic moments in that game and both involve the same guy. David freeze first off in the ninth inning. Freeze hit a two-out triple. The title game is senator extra innings and then again in the eleventh inning freeze. Hit a home run to win the game and send it to game seven where. The cardinals won the world series. I was at that game two okay. After both those plays the crowd went wild the stadium it was electric but most people who aren't baseball fans don't realize how hard it is to hit a home run in that circumstance. You've got to be immune to the pressure you've got have laser precise i contact. You gotta keep your eye on the ball. You gotta swing the bat as fast as you possibly can and hit the sweet spot on the ball and the bat right you have to hit it in just the right place so it goes far enough to get out of play and not in the foul territory either. There's a lot of variables that comes into hitting a baseball. They say that the easiest thing in sports to do is to miss hitting a baseball and the hardest thing to do is to actually hit it right hitting a baseball takes an insane amount of coordination a lifetime of commitment when you watch the video of free swinging the bat. It looks like poetry man. There's perfect four. there's a flow to it. I would call it he mistrust. You're caller beautiful. Because i can appreciate the skill and the practice that has gone into that. I know people sometimes have a hard time defining beauty but beauty to me is basically a combination of you know positive and excellent qualities. A home run. Swing to me is beautiful because it combines the qualities of coordination precision speed and power and when all of those things come together one action. The result is mind blowing. It drives people insane. This is what people pay to see and david freeze became a hometown legend for his performance in the two thousand eleven world series because he had the ability to exercise all the positive excellent qualities he needed at once at the perfect time when he needed executed or i. You know what i call that. I call that macro discipline right macro disciplined guys the discipline you demonstrate when you are performing macro disciplined isn't as much of an action as it is a state of being or i peak performance possess macro discipline just like human beings possessed a soul. It's not just part of who they are is who they are. It's macro disciplined. That may david freeze a major league player and a world series champion. It's macro disciplined. That enable michael jordan to be the greatest basketball player of all time. It's macro discipline. That made abraham lincoln winston churchill. Martin luther king great leaders. It's macro discipline. That got my let my business partner and artists syndicate one of the best guys know where he is today one of the most successful businessmen in the world. Oh and by the way. he's also one of the wealthiest okay to be real macro displays. Wisconsin me to where. I am a successful author at preneurs speaker. Podcast are some would say world's sexiest man but it's all macro discipline right. Here's the thing guys. If you point your any peop- performer. And say i don't have the discipline. They have. Guess what you're right you don't have it but what you're looking at is their performance. What you are. Witnessing is their macro discipline at play. Like i said it's not a single quality that you can possess it's the quality of existence that possesses you so if you look at all the peop- performers as they're performing and whatever element there in their business the relationships feel and you compare yourself then of course you're going to be discouraged. Of course you're going to believe you can't really become like them and that's the bad news but there's good news to in the good news is and i know it sounds kind of zenit guys is that you can experience macro disciplined by not trying to pursue it but by pursuing a completely different level of discipline. I'm talking about micro discipline. Whereas macro disciplined like we said is a state of being a flow the quote unquote soul of who you are micro. Discipline is focused on what you do. Micro discipline is all about the individual decisions and actions. Another way of saying it would be macro disciplined. Is your demonstration when you perform and micro discipline is the discipline you exercise when you are preparing and engaging in a process okay macro discipline is the game. Time micro discipline is the daily practice. For example seventy five hard we talk about no compromise and no deviation as a guiding principle that means if you say i won't eat a cookie for seventy five days then guess what. You're not eating a motherfucker cookie for seventy five days. If you say. I will work out twice a day for seventy five days and that's exactly what you do. The great thing about micro discipline is that you're trying to achieve a state of being or a flow state. You're not trying to create your whole self all at once okay. You aren't creating the person you want to be all at once. What you are doing is focusing on a single decision. A single action a specific period of time. You're zeroing in one step of the process. One link in the chain for that reason. It's not overwhelming. It's totally doable. Guys guess what. It's also very effective when you exercise micro discipline consistently day after day week week after week year after year each decision and action starts to combine and compound and they converge. And that's when you enter the state of macro discipline. Okay that's when you possess it like a soul that's when it becomes who the fuck you are on the inside. Not just the outside okay. But here's what you got to keep in mind. Anyone can exercise micro discipline become a performer but the opposite is also true. This is the part that gives people trouble so pay attention any peak. Performer can also stop exercising micro discipline and guess what when they do. They lose their macro discipline. This isn't something that you can possess permanently. It's a perishable skill you can lose it and talent won't keep it for you. Intelligence won't keep before you and no amount of resources can keep it for you. The only way somewhat enters and remains in the state of macro discipline is to continue practicing micro disciplined and since anyone and i mean anyone can focus on the individual decisions and singular actions. They take on a day by day. Basis there is zero distinction between people who are quote unquote meant for success. And those who aren't and that's great news for you. It's great news for me. It's great news for all of you. Listening the micro discipline levels the playing field for all of us all are equal. Everyone has the same opportunity to pursue and fulfill their own true potential. So guys as you think about experiencing more success in your life and more happiness. Don't make the mistake of witnessing macro discipline and peak performance and then comparing yourselves down and coming to the conclusion that you'll never be like then that's why most people fail focusing on the macro discipline it in someone else is totally counterproductive and demoralizing us. You can't decide to practice macro discipline because it's not a skill. It's not a habit. Like i said it's a state of being. It's who you actually become. It's through the fuck you are and you cannot fake it so instead. Focus on the micro discipline focused on the level of discipline has to do with the decisions and you make on a daily basis. Decisions made a single point in time actions executed a single point in time. That's how you enter macro discipline. That's how you stay in a state of macro discipline individual decisions singular actions execute and repeat execute every pete guys it's not overwhelming. It's not rocket science. It's doable and it's effective. If you focus on the level of micro discipline you have every good reason to believe that you will become a peak performer who experiences the high levels of happiness. Who gets to experience. The high levels of success. Who gets to experience the hi lo's fulfillment that we all aspire to have. It's not about macro guys. it's about micro. Nobody gets there by accident. It's what you do every single time. You get a chance to make a decision macro and micro disc lingo. Listen this shit about three more times. Think about i love you guys. That's show see next time pitch on gonna give spoken to welcome.

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"Neither workum the fantasy focus baseball a different way Monday march twenty third twenty twenty. I'm eric that smiling Trista over there isn't a museum. Right now I'm an empty room. He's in a museum. Kinda sums it up for the two so I wonder what team I'm a fan of. I have no clue I. Maybe you've heard of them. So you're a mets fan. So moment in mets history. I'm just curious. Is it When the world series longtime you guys won the world series was Piazza. Bat-throwing thing was it. some Zilly did it creates. Yeah I I really appreciate it. That one thousand nine hundred eighty six world series. That was a good one. And now I've been hated by the entire Phantom of one particular franchise. Let's go to remind me about an instance eighteen years later which six people watching slash listening right now. So anyway this is fantasy focus baseball. No promises after this but we're doing it today and today's show. We'RE GONNA discuss Chris Sale. Something happened to his arm. We're going to discuss the tap drafts. We did a few weeks ago other stuff. That's going on a read. Something and then a little bit later on Kyle. Stop you will join US and And we'll do some hashtags hashbrowns right so I can use today. Maybe today there hashtags. Let's keep doing the show. We kid in the way we do it with a few differences. So you're right to the news Chris Sale. We didn't we didn't do an intro to the new is going to have a discredit. Just checking it. Are you doing okay doing the best we can? We're we're making do we're we're doing is making the best of the situation of making our own soundbites. What do you by the way people like? Brief edit here please take this seriously so we don't have to do for a year okay. So beat be safe. Stay healthy wh what was it may be smart smart. Be SMART STAY SAFE. Be Healthy all right. So the Chris Sale News happened late last week and a bunch of thoughts on this one was. Why is anybody surprise that the Red Sox left needs Tommy John Surgery? I think we knew this months ago. but to I wonder if starts a minor trend of team saying what we may not even play baseball this season. So let's shut them down now and get them ready for twenty twenty one and sales case. I think that we hesitated for a moment when the red sox gave that reaction that it wasn't something that was going to require. Tommy John Surgery and I agree with you Eric. I'm not terribly surprised that this is the outcome. What did really take me for? A surprise was the subsequent news that Andreas Muna's of the padres needed it. So to your point about our team's going to err on the side of caution with pitchers who need major surgeries. I think that's certainly possible that we're going to see that happen a little bit more often than if player had an injury. That might have been severe enough that they could have tried to press through this year that maybe teams will aron shutting players down. I'm also noticing that that a lot of teams are sending down prospects even during this pause in MLB. Which I think tells us a lot about the way teams are sort of playing this and strategizing. I mean in sales case. It's it's bad news. But at least this gives us a timetable. As to when he can return we talked a little bit about this in our column on Friday about the dynasty impact and I said I throw at thirty fifth and in the end I think I put him thirty seventh among dynasty starters. That was sort of my reaction to to the impact on sale long-term all right so the next time sales pitches of thirty two years old tristen. Don't you have concerns? I mean I know you ranked him cautiously in the Mid Thirties for dynasty anyway. But I'm not assuming that even makes all six months starts next season to me. This is a little riskier. Because of his age the way he throws hard he throws. I'm not saying I'm crossing off my dynasty lists but it'd be tough for me like like Brandon Woodruff a guy like that I would definitely take younger players at this point. First of all in dynasty I would just say hitters. I don't want any pitchers really but I mean I just have concerns about sale. Moving forward here. You don't have concerns that I had. I don't think I kind of do I think your description hits the nail on the head here and that is that I also would prefer guys like woodruff and if it was me. Drafting a team fresh from scratch. Today I'm probably going to avoid sale and part of that is just that I do also like you. Rank pitchers more pessimistically in long-term especially True Dynasty Leagues. I think he moved down even further. I don't even know if he's a top fifty starter for me and you're right. This is going to raise those questions again. About the delivery which people believed when he was first breaking through as a star for fantasy that it puts a lot of stress on his arm. I don't know how he's going to recover from that. But my main thing is I've got to give a projection I've got a ranking and the velocity wasn't substantially down last year even in a poor season so I felt like the projections supported it. But I'm with you. I'm on a pessimistic. Give any thoughts on. The Red Sox starting pitchers because we wrote about that also in the The roundtable and I said I was a bit concerned about. Add Water Rodriguez. Because if it's almost like Boston is telling US something here by shutting sale down and Rodriguez has not been durable and his career have have no other starting pitching to count on. If you WANNA talk about Ryan Weber. It'd be my guest but to me like Boston saying we're taking a year off so I wonder why they push water. What Rigas if he has the lead the least bit tweak in his knee or elbow or shoulder anything? That's a good point here is that I do not understand. The reaction of how one injury to another player creates this domino effect that benefits the other members of the starters of the rotation. The only way in which it does is it provides an opportunity for a new name to get in there which is why as you mentioned Weber or we could mention Collin McHugh or perhaps some of the red sox prospects or the one that I like from Relief Darwin's and Hernandez I'd like to see him. Get a starters opportunity. I don't think it's going to happen but water. Rodriguez Rodriguez was remarkably healthy last year. A lot of things went right. Any has injury risk. I don't think this benefits him. In any way in fact I would argue. It might tax the entire teams rotation more or the T- pitching staff more that they lean on him too much and it hurts him so I didn't move him at all. In the rankings. Weber is the only one who I think. It's a real benefit because I think this does incolme into the red sox rotation he does have good control he does get a lot of ground balls but that's a streaming guy. It's not special stuff. That's a guy you're gonNA have to do a lot of homework on. Let's talk about the bigger picture here. You've any draft. That are already scheduled for the next couple of weeks. I have no drabs at this point. Going forward The last one was the one that you and I did. It was our auto new draft. And I had one was tentatively scheduled tomorrow but got rescheduled and I think that's the right move. I'm I'm glad that most of my leagues and actually all of my locally have delayed how about you. Yeah I mean like first of all the night. We did that on a new draft. I had another new drafted the exact same time and I was thinking this is going to be interesting like a test case. It wasn't fun at all. I missed both drafts. Like constant like three countdowns and beeping and I just didn't do own either draft doing it that way I didn't plan it. I don't run either league. It just happened But I agree like I didn't want I don't Wanna be doing any drafts right now. Because I don't WanNa have to guess is they're going to be one hundred game season a forty game season. It affects how you draft so I was wondering like what are your thoughts on on that like. It's a total gas. We don't even know if there's going to be any games but whether it's one hundred or fifty or any of that like what is the difference to you because I I get that. What is the difference in how you draft right now? So there isn't a substantial difference from a strategic standpoint. The only benefit here is that if you had players who had. Short term injury timetables who didn't have broader injury questions. Giancarlo Stanton fitting into that group. It does benefit them a little bit. So you and. I know we are a little bit more pro. Mike Cleven Jer than we would be because cleven gers timetable would have had him ready near the original opening day as is he might have missed a week or two now. It's very likely he would be at full strength for the time that we reboot and restart baseball. But I'm not really making any rash adjustments otherwise clovinger went back into my top ten starters. I feel like it's now safe again to draft him amongst that group. The other is. I'm very interested in the pitchers who were going to face. Innings caps with a high likelihood that we're not gonNA play one hundred sixty two games the season. I now a lot more interested in is like Lance mccullers like Frankie montage younger guys. Who might have been held to a one hundred forty or one hundred and fifty innings? That's now going to cover a broader part of the season and they're going to be competitive with some of the aces out there so those are the ones. I'm going to draft a little more aggressively right and that's important difference here because like pitcher like Spencer Howard. I'm a Phillies Fan. So I'm thinking of Spencer Howard like if you if you prorate down. What are you drinking a star wars mug now Colonel Chewy you in Chewbacca. Friends your coffee like in a way. Baseball is proceeding down the meetings. Okay so let's say one hundred sixty two games saints half of that okay. Spencer Howard's arm if they were gonNA give him one hundred thirty innings. They don't have to pro write that down in half. That's not how it's GonNa work so. In Theory Spencer Howard could be a fulltime rotation member of the phillies a season. If it's only half a season because he might have done that anyway so my original but it also could go the other way here. They get an extra year of of having his contract and saying well. You know we're not win the world series anyway so we'll just pushing back a full year. I don't know which one it is. And that's what concerns me. Do you have a thought on that? Actually that's a very interesting point that hadn't upon me is that we might create this accordion effect on the younger players in that the value range will expand to your point. We might not see players called up. I know you've mentioned Dylan cars. Carlson a very popular option fantasy several weeks ago for the cardinals potentially making the team. What if they take a more conservative approach and as you said try to keep his service time in check but the other effect is as you mentioned. Howard teams are going to be a little bit closer to contention the smaller the season if we get to September and the roster's do expand granted. It's a different approach under the new rules. But of teams are in contention. Are they going to look at players? Like Howard who? They haven't used up in the shorter minor league season and call them up at the end of the year in order to compete in a playoff race. I think we might get a little bit more value out of younger players later in the year. So interesting interesting point on Howard right and again like nothing's going to be announced in March. Maybe not even an April. So we're not going to know what's going to happen with the season for a long time but if you are drafting drafting soon. I really don't recommend it. Some people are saying that they WANNA do drafts now because they're so bored and it gives us something to do well it it almost going to sound bad everybody but it creates the opposite effect for me. I'm if I'm doing a draft will the season that starting for a while so it's like you're teasing me. Bring me in drafting. Michael Chai Shave so the Red Sox today in a league and now like Whoa. I'm not going to get to see him play for awhile. It almost creates the opposite effect from me that depresses me to do a draft now. Because I wanNA play I wanNA watch real baseball. You know what I did last week. I watched that that Phillies cubs twenty three twenty two game four times in one day. I just kept watching it. I knew suitor tenth like and then the next day. I'm watching mark the door fridge who I was too young to watch live at the time. But it's like that was really cool and baseball. By the way couldn't be more different in the seventies than it is today. Some of our friends texted me and said you're the same size as Larry Bowa. I mean like the players. Don't look the same and I'm not even this is Larry. Oh He's so little or routing they only anyway back boy I'm loving. I'm loving the Games too. I have to admit and considering look around me. Why was I myself to this? I was watching the not to ninety five division series game five. I loved Edgar Martinez especially in fantasy. He was a favorite pick of mine for years. I had to watch the game again and put myself through it. Jack McDowell pitched seven innings in that game. By the way. You've never taken out. Oh without a doubt. I mean come on David. Cohen was throwing a hundred and forty five plus pitches. In that Game Jack McDowell is throwing as many as he can until the arm falls off by the way about the drafts. You're right I agree. It's going to make things very tough for people when we finally get the time line for baseball that if they already did their draft. What is there to look forward to the upcoming season? You can't change your rosters. They're locked in so as we discussed in our little round table you and I am. Aj Mass what about a supplemental draft when we get closer if drafted today. What about you set up something a little bit interesting to get people together again and do a draft right before the year begins? I guess I mean until I know this is starting back up. I don't know what to do so like I run a league and under like let's not do anything right now. It's wait until we get more information. I don't want to send a draft day. I don't WanNa set a supplemental day. I I mean somebody Brench. I'M GONNA keep her league salaries and they said well if it's like a forty game season. I don't WANNA lose a year of raw string Mike Trail for what is like a quarter of a season and I thought that's a good point. We may have to vote on this as a lead to say. Well maybe we just forget all the you know the salary of the years. They're like you only get the roster might travel three years or something like that. Maybe it's not fair to do that to people you know. Like or maybe there's a special rule enacted you and I of Assembly League where you can only play for what six years before you have to. You know put on a special smaller list and I was thinking well first of all we pushed back so we don't have to announce things but the other is like. Maybe there shouldn't be a listed all and you get an extra year player because if they're gonNA play a quarter of a again it could be one hundred twenty games at the end up playing but I don't think it's GonNa be. Maybe you're going out to like basically just set the rules in your lead. Well before something happens. I think it's a good time for for leaks to have this discussion and especially over the next several weeks because I think it will take some time for us to get time line. This is a very good discussion to have. And I think you and I both like to hear what the listeners and viewers. If you're seeing this have to say about this. Ask questions make suggestions? We're happy to hear whatever reactions you have to do with your leagues. Because Eric as you mentioned that's a real good point about we're burning a year. I remember when Alex Race made that one appearance that one year in her attempt to lose your of service in our league exactly barely pitch right or like batanes. Last season got one pitcher batter that counts as a year of service. Time in a fantasy league. Now he's not a huge name but it could be a closer so anyway and then we'll get some questions so you're tout team my team. We did it last weekend. It was a these auctions. Were Done Online. And as we wrote up in our stories. It's very different doing an auction online. As opposed to in person sitting next to all the other people you can read the room a lot. Easier I also think one major difference is your access to materials on the run. Like when you're when you're in a room with other people and they're putting the you know the results on the wall or something it's much easier to look at your screen and figure out how much money you really want to spend when you're in an auction it's it's going on and it's right there in front of you and like. I didn't have any chance. I didn't think to go to another screen and Microsoft names in tears. Trs Or to do some math. It was it was like it was happening. Live I live. I really like my team. I WANT TO RIP Your Team. I though so I wanNA make one quick point for you though here and Incomplete Defensive Eric. He the stuff that Eric Absorbs. His brain is remarkable. It's one of the things that I found. No I have found this incredibly impressive that you can absorb an amazing amount of material but that said for somebody like me and for perhaps the average fantasy owner. That's why you want these because these helped me a lot when I was doing tout. Wars was the full detail Chichi. Yeah I tried to print something but my printer has a virus coincidence so I couldn't print anything so he's looking at just that whole draft on my screen with nothing else. I didn't go to any other screens. I look at my phone. Let's say I was bored. So machine an absolute machine how you can do that. And he's not GonNa win so it doesn't matter your team so I'm interested in your team here because it's an unfinished product to me. It's it's it's unbalanced so I almost I try to never leave an auction or a draft thinking. I have to make a trade to balance my team. But that's exactly what you did. Nice Sumi did it because the prices were right tons of stolen bases A problem in the outfield. Like you're pitching. So why did you end up with an unbalanced team? And is that okay? I did just because I felt like the values were absolutely not in the homerun. Category in any way whatsoever Intel was. There was the one category that was marked up and I do not understand why that was done as a group. I think it was misread of the room. Because you can get. I think power most anywhere and I think it'll be able to be traded if the baseball has anything like it was last year there will absolutely be excessive home. Runs the one. Category target with my excess. But and I want to see what you think this one Eric. I thought that pitching as a whole especially in the top tier is was ridiculously underpriced. The overall split for tout wars. Nl This year was sixty nine percent hitting and thirty one percent pitching and there were three teams that spent in the range of twenty five percent of their team budget on pitching. I got Jacob degrom with the first nomination at thirty eight. I felt that was close to what he should have gone for. Stephen Strasburg at twenty three to me was at least a four or five dollars bargain and there were a lot of guys in that Tier Jack Flyers for twenty seven dollars. Who were ridiculous bargains? I wish I had let go and gotten fired for twenty eight and Strasburg for twenty-three but you know you can't spend all your budget on pitching there if you're playing one hundred sixty two games though like they're not bargains necessarily if you're playing short and season because somebody like Austin virus could have the same value if he pitches over his head as some of these stars and you ended up with vast as well. It just seems to me like we're guessing what the value actually is. I'm not a guy who sticks to a dollar you know to to you know. I have to spend this much on the player yes I do. Strasbourg has more than twenty three dollar player. Like you do but to me. I was just like flying by my pants. On most of these prices I ended up spending. I think the most of anybody on hitting it was over seventy five percent but the pitching I ended up with. I like so like I would never spend thirty eight dollars on a starting pitcher. You did that on the ground. I my ace would have been Strasbourg. I like your bullpen. I like what you did I I think your offense like you've got potentially the two biggest base guys in trade Turner and Jonathan be are. You're going to need trade one of them for power. I would presume and I think it will be able to do that. I think there will be a need for steals on the market and the benefit I have to get into the speedsters. There's a I mean I didn't think. Vr VR was a super bargain. I thought that was about right for his price point but my thought was at that time. Pay The market value based on what was out there with homers. Were going for fill my stolen bases early on in the year and this is probably not going to work as you mentioned if this is a sixty game season. It's probably not gonNa work for me but I I don't know that today but I think I can trade those guys. I think I can get power. I think somebody's going to have an accessory power they can trade me for a guy like John. Vr later. Though you look at my team you can provide figuring out what my stepmother strategy was I didn't want any dollar players. I wanted lots of playing time minds. A mixed leagues and yours. Only but in most of my auctions now my goal is get playing time. Because if you've got a guy's not gonNA play enough say a guy is GonNa get one hundred fifty at bats over a full season. That's just not good enough anymore. So like like David freeze and then a labor last you. It's not good enough anymore. I wanted a ton of plate appearances and I got it and when it came to pitching time I still got guys who would pitch innings to now. They may not. I'M NOT GONNA win era or whip but I kind of like what I did a lot. some old some young upsides and potential. What you WANNA do. Is You have a two-under sixty dollar budget. You Wanna be able to have like three hundred and fifty dollars worth of value right. Is that the goal here? That's three fifty. I think if you get anywhere over three hundred did well three fifty would be an absolute win for you in an auction bidding on Vlad and Bobi shed and the price is stalled. I thought well the prices might be right but there's so much upside value in these guys were could be worth ten dollars more if he's still thirty basis. Vlad's upside is is unbelievable so but then I. I ended up with these older players that she prices to take my girlfriend. Lisa that's fine me healing guy really targeted with Nick Zolak. But I had money at the end so and I ended up with three closer. Somehow it worked out for me. I I like what I did again. I'm almost hoping that we play enough games to make it worthwhile. Because the let the fewer games you play the more just creates anarchy and the best. He may not win. So I'm to your point. I think that going this route could work well. In a in a noticeably shortened season. You're spreading your risk around which I think is going to pay off more. The short of the year is and the longer we wait. But I've praised you a lot here and I I will again because you did something very bold and I want to bring it up even when I talked before this draft and you asked what you thought what I thought you should do and I said I thought you should go stars scrubs and then as you wrote you accept the opposite and I'm proud of the fact that you challenge my angle here. I can tell you where I stand on that. I want to get your perspective. I on this because there's one part that I challenged with that but I liked that you went with a completely different approach. You had a specific plan to this and for the most part. I can't dispute any of your values here. I really can't because everybody else in the League Tristan was doing what you said so and really opportunity for great middle class where I could get all these good players at good prices in the middle but nobody had add money for the middle class. There were seventy two one dollars players in this mix draft and then the mixed the next day were the the other draft the next day maybe or Ale and I was like. That's crazy you know. How many of these dollar. Somebody's one dollar. Players will be really good but a lot of them won't play enough. Everybody on my team is GonNa play and that was the that was my. My hope is if everybody is doing one thing go in the opposite direction and I like that zigging when or zagging when others egg. I like that as a strategy for an auction. The reason I challenged the approach you take and I will tell you this. I challenge it more than one hundred. Sixty two game season is that the reason I like stars in scrubs in a shallow mixed and it's not super shallow. It's relatively shallow is that you're going to need guys to cut in order to pick up the in-season winds that's one of the reasons I like. Stars in scrubs is that you're going to have seven or eight one dollars guys who you are not attached to in this case because you spent a little more on options like Nick Solich. You're probably going to be a little bit too. Attached to him to let him go in the opening weeks because the year is delayed the impact of the season pickups is going to be as great as it would be in a typical year. So this might well pay off because of the delayed year. I this is going to be an interesting team to track because there's a bench. There's a reserve of ban yet. Oh I could always sit nick. Select for a week and people are GonNa get hurt so it's not a big deal anyway. We'll see if this matters how it plays out but different strategy. I didn't ignore your advice. It was just after ten minutes. I was like this is wild. I'm not doing what everybody else is doing it. We'll see players were there by the way they were had to be. I think I saw four five at the very beginning. I just thought prices were a little crazy and I was like whoa. I'm not paying that much I'd rather I you know. I don't remember exactly who I ended up with because I don't want to think about it too much but like to me if like if if I could get vlad and a brave for the price of Yelich I'm doing it and that's what exactly what I was doing. We'll see how it works out anyway. Let me read this. And then we'll get to kyle questions. Do you ever feel like ticketing websites? Make getting to the event difficult on purpose. It is as if they're so big they can get away with not caring about the customer experience. 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I have a hunch that when we get a little cleaner audio with that I'll have to retake but it won't quite be off the cuff like was like. Is this show going to be good? Is it worth it? Just made it worth it just now. I'll drink to that like it. Eric did you know you're talking about that. Twenty three twenty two phillies game at eleven pitchers in your phillies played. The cubs. Last may have nine pitchers a three to two game. Baseball was very different. Well I need many say while I was watching that game. I watched it like three times that day. I was on baseball reference all day. Long looking stuff up. I was staring at the box score. Willie Nand days retired. Eight twenty four. It faced in relief was last on that APP I mean the Phillies had seven bench hitters and all US three of them in a twenty three twenty two game and and I was looking at the teams like these teams only use like four or five relievers during the season. Mainly like in the seventies. That's what used to happen every day. How many relief pitchers would have added an extra innings and how many batsmen would have pitched an extra because he ran out of pitchers thing the game in go on like deep until sixteen inning? So I think that's the difference. It was only a game and teams. They stop scoring like the eighth but like the Phillies pitcher Randy Lerch homers in the first inning and then gets only one batter out in the bottom of the first. That's something I doubt has ever have I just anyway. I loved it. It was fun. I'M GONNA I don't even know what's Today but I'm GonNa Watch it. I mean what a choice so I wanted to be a game the Yankees Win for. What's please let me watch knows again? Sixty series that'd be cool to watch we watch that. Now have Yankee losses that I WANNA watch over. Two thousand one game. Seven was painful to watch. It was Ottawa's Luiz. Gonzalez game was a great A Lotta Yankee losses were great games and I'll watch a great baseball questions. Here here wants to know in the thirteenth team wrote a league. Are you comfortable with you? This is your you know what I don't care about having an ACE I. It doesn't matter. This is not real baseball where you want somebody on the mound for game one of the World Series So. I have a couple of pitchers all I want is good enough pitching over autumn. I six starters if doors is my best but like my number two is like Kyle Hendricks or Lance Lynn. And I've got like three or four pitchers that you would consider top thirty thirty. Five starting pitchers. I'm okay with that. All I care about is the overall darvish is good enough to be ASE. Even if he we rank them as like the number twenty starting pitcher and I think that's the point here is that he's still within the top twenty. I've got Lucas G Alito Yu. Darvish in Tyler glass now is my final three members of the top twenty woodruff right outside of it so. I don't think it's devastating to have a guy like darvish as your first pitcher. It's just I would ask you. How are you addressing the remainder of your pitching staff? It's just GONNA force you to a little bit more. I mentioned the word homework a lot. It's going to force you to do a lot more homework. And terms of streaming starters or getting values in season or potentially drafting three or four starters on a roll at that point to fill the other roles which is what. I did in the draft last week. My Ace and I don't care if I haven't as but my top starting pitcher and price was trevor. Bauer getting strikeouts. And I have Lance Lynn. So I spent basically saying about you did on Strasbourg. I got Bauer. I'd rather do it that way. And being if you stars of Scrub than you're hoping that Austin bought the two dollars turns out to be good. Actually you you cut. Bauer Lynn and Hector Harris combined for less than I paid particular completely different league types but just at work point that works for me. So don't worry about who you're AC's or your number one starter. Worry more about your four five and six because if you spend less or use less assets on the rest on the top of the rotation. Maybe the bottom like my worst. Starting pitchers are Tanaka and Jose or quitting. I'm fine with that. I can make a case for them as number four number five starting pitchers whereas if you spend all your money on like one or two stars you're fit and six might be middle relievers or guy like Vladimir not even make the rotation and to the point as he said about the reserve draft in the towel wars mix league as long as you have players to cut and you see an opportunity out there on the waiver wire that could be where the the league winning player comes from. Just be prepared for it saves next. He's got a question he wants to know how you balance chasing age against current production when you're taking place in a first year dynasty dressed. I know what I'm doing and it's not like it's not the same thing. Trista sitting around everybody thirty five and older goes to kind of. I'm not I'm not saying I'm taking Nelson cruising around five but nobody else has taken to be around ten so I'll just take him there. You WANNA balance. You want to win now. Who wants just wrapped a bunch of kids and wait five years? I want to try to win now and in five years and in my dentist leagues. I've been able to do that. I think but you. You know you're you're taking Jason Dominguez of the Yankees in eighteen year old around five well around five near route ten near where Nelson Cruz would be. Potentially depending on what the law passed by the way. Let me let me make this point okay. It's innocent people are going to be drafting teenagers. If drafting Wander Franko around three. That's one thing if your draft Jason Dominguez around ten. That's another take young players like bogus. Shit and Vlad who who have growth in them but they're still young and the probably a little like probably a little overpriced right now and blast definitely underpriced but in identity league start up focusing on young hitters not young pitchers young hitters and. I'm not focusing on prospects. I don't want Joe Adele in the early rounds. I Want Vlad I want guys who have already played in the major leagues and Have Opportunity. Right now joy. There might be gracious in. But I mean when I was looking at Yankee. A Yankee Mariner game of ninety five. An era was coming off the bench. Pay Rods rookie season ninety five. He did nothing wrong awful trounce first-year year terrible joy. Del If he gets one hundred Baptist your maybe they're good but like be careful here so I'm taking guys I don't WanNa say Nixon's because I don't know what his role is. But you know what I'm thinking. I'm thinking of young players who have opportunity right now and they're going to play right away. I'm going to try to create a new show thing here. We're GONNA Call Dynasty and dynasty separate things. It's a true dynasty. It's locked forever without penalty and those are the ones in which I'm talking about taking Jason Dominquez where I've I lock them in now. I haven't for the entirety of his career without penalty. That is why you would draft him around the same range. You would Nelson Cruz. But as you describe with dynasty and these are the ones you and I play in there more like three to five year contract oriented long-term Keeper Leagues and those are the ones where I agree with you. It's better to play for the now. I still do lean more than you do towards a three year or maybe five year attempt to win but there is validity in what you're saying about trying to win right now we don't know what tomorrow is going to bring and I just. I just prefer not to be the pessimist. I hear this this argument that what if the League doesn't last five years. I would be optimistic that it does. But it's a valid point. What if the League doesn't last five years? I like that you guys mentioned chasing strikeouts zigging when Zag your drafts. David always chased his case. But so does the rest of his league. He wants to know some. Locate pitchers comfortable with drafting this year. Sorority lyle everybody from the seventies right you should read or I'm watching that Yankees game again. Is that the gain that was now. It wasn't a figure. Extreme is another Yankee game from the seventies there was on TV. And I was like no. It's Gosh it's closed it out. So Oh gosh. Seventy eight tiebreaker. The the seventy-nine day game the Bucky Danke and I'm looking at these relief pitchers Bob Stanley and sporty. Lyle had caper nine rates of two point five and they were closers. Well the guy that jumps. So why would you want? Starting pitchers with Lo que nine. That'd be my first question here but there are quite a few and you probably have it on your screen which I can't get through right now but like the one that jumps out to me who I like more than you is. Sandy Alcantara of the Marlins who did not have a high canine rate last year. But I think he has room to improve so I don't care so much what the rate was last year. Because I think it's going up That's the jumps out to me. Okay that's right. Yeah and that was one of the ones that I came up for me. Here is that he's an interesting guy with some upside and I do like a few of the Marlins pitchers their contract by the way in the minors did of a couple years where he approached a Caper inning including a twenty sixteen when he was in the cardinal system. Did with more than nine per nine so I agree with you. There are some rebound there of the pitchers who averaged fewer than eight case for nine last year. The most generalist generously ranked in general. Especially by you and me Carl Hendrix. The cubs like a lot. He has the ability to induce week. Contact Marcus Stroman. In the mets gets lots of ground. Balls Tanaka who you had drafted Intel Wars Eric. Very good control. The splitter still does get KS and generates a lot of ground balls Mike. Saroka mentioned him when we first started the question. Good young arm just has to stay healthy. I would think and you mentioned Alcatraz. Well those would be the best ones on this list right. Sirocco is a problem for me because we know he's not going to be in two hundred innings season. He's not gonNA approach two hundred strikeouts. He almost doesn't belong in the top. Twenty starting pitchers on anybody's list. No he doesn't. It's just not enough strikeouts. And and and no path for him to become a strikeout pitcher whereas without kanter. Now if Sirocco is Kyle Hendricks for the next five years. That's good enough but he hasn't proven yet. I think if if SIROCCO has a Matt Cain career we should be really happy and I think he could do that. That might be good enough for top twenty but in this environment with strikeouts. It's going to be tough for him to consistently be in the top twenty. I haven't ranked outside my top thirty right now. We've got the last one here from meal. He wants to know if there's a stolen base total you're looking for drafting attend team. Espn standard honestly in the drafts. That I've done the auctions and the drafts stolen bases the one category. I can't stop thinking about i. Honestly if if if the are and Trade Turner go on your league and you're like well now. What am I going to do? And Twenty twenty guys. You know like yell. H. A. Tuna Trout. You're like I don't want Mouth Smith. I won't take Dee Gordon like that one. Category messes with your head. More than any other in these drafts. It really does. It makes you overpay for some of these guys. You made me overpay for victory in. La Labor had overpaid for him. Because I was scared I wouldn't get saves a steals and unlike you I knew I would be able to trade for them so that category. There's no total anymore. I don't even look at it that way. I'm always trying to get to one hundred and I think it might. Well be one hundred. I would probably aim for one hundred twenty five out of the draft because it's going to be hard to get to that level otherwise without making a significant trade last year and I'm not gonNa lock in an exact fact here for you because I need to check but I believe the two thousand two hundred eighty stolen bases in baseball. Last year was the lowest of any full year in more than a half century. And if that's the case divided by ten you're looking at two twenty eight and that assumes that you'd be able to I roster but to identify all of those stolen bases typically can't so I would be dialing that back at least to maybe fifty or sixty percent is what you're going to be able to have reasonably on your roster and Eric. I think you agree with me on this one. I would much rather traffic to roster. We're I'm getting ten stolen bases from everybody that have to pay for that one speech. Or give me cody bellinger types. All Day all right. We'll get through that. That's cody bellinger. GimMe Shinshu types. And then you know you're getting twenty home runs fifteen steals. I tried to do that. A little bit in the The risk in taking a rootless returner or widmaier field is that they don't steal enough where they get hurt and they miss time. And then you're in real trouble. I was looking at it this way. Like you WanNa get a hundred saves Macarena League. You WanNa get a hundred steals. That can win the league but nobody wants to take a saves guy gets fifteen they only want a guy guy gets thirty but in stolen bases if the opposite. I think you want to get a bunch of guys who still fifteen to twenty as opposed to relying on just trae Turner because Turner back. Thirty may not even do that. So it's a big risk. I raced Beller just because of the examples. Two and three years ago people didn't think of him as a speedster. You need to find the guys who can sneak their way into fifteen to twenty steals that nobody else is thinking about. Yes but I mean you're talking about one of the top guys that could be a top five pick. Who SHOULD I pick? Yeah now if you if you build an outfield of Adam Eaton Shinshu Lorenzo. Cain you can fake your way. You don't have to win stolen bases but you can fake your way to contention in that category. That would be enough for me this year and then to me. That's where you're going to get your will. We always get saves offering agency. You're GONNA get steals. This year's John Birdie is going to win people leagues because he's going to steal fifteen bases in the final five weeks of the season. That's almost as valuable as a reliever getting ten saves in the final five weeks who nobody's heard of the work both ways when Mile Straw finds his way into the Astros lineup. Because SOMEBODY GETS HURT. Or they fall out of contention right Yeah that'll be. The Guy Winning your. It's going to be something like that. You know it and nobody's talking about the astros anymore. Or they know. I hated everything that happened with. That and I hated all the discussion and then like all people guessing like somebody rip me for taking Jose. Altuve van Reese auction draft. And but what's wrong with you? He's each kid. I'm like you know this. You know what he did. You exactly what happened. That was tout wars and you got him for twenty eight and I liked the price a lot as you know. He was my Third Round pick in the FBI draft an hour's pretty pleased to see him out there in round three so that that situation is over with right now so I whatever I just want real. Baseball live BASEBA- hopefully some time in May or June. That'll be great. As for the fantasy focus baseball. I think we're done even though the music stop because a music never started but There's always so much we can do. The voice oh so no because as I speak to low pick up. I don't know if we can do. Kyle we talk. We talk to seeing you do is worth it regardless if we can hear and get up close by. Have your coffee. And I'm Cheryl calm you down in no way. Will it make you energetic excitable or willing to sing a new hashbrowns song? What are you watching today other than baseball? There's any baseball. I don't even those any baseball. I actually I've got started you. Shall we just finished? We've we've finished season three marvelous. Mrs Mazel so good. Yeah well I didn't like season three as much as I do. What did you think right? You're watching this with your children. No no no no just the two. We're watching like the Disney movies and things with the kid okay. I like Marvelous Mrs Maes. I thought it was pretty good You have three seasons. I think so. Yeah Yeah three three. I wasn't impressed by it. I do but the first was really excellent. I thought I think we're only allowed to talk about Disney so watch frozen to yet. I am actually. I'm looking forward to onward. We've already scheduled it for that. That's our movie night for that night. That on word comes onto that. I love the fact that they brought that out for Disney plus early another. Show that Melody Korean or whatever the man Delorean next show. I'm going to show you my man. Delorean socks for we get in trouble. Probably never happening again. Oh give me a show to watch. Give me a new show to watch. That's not on Disney or anything. Just anything yeah anything. I don't even know where peaky blinders. Have you ever seen that? I've never even heard of that. I'm telling you that show is fantastic. Look it up peaky blinders. Yes doppler not for the kids. It's okay here. We got peaky blinders. Better call saw. What else am I putting on this poll so the people can tell them what to watch de just finished breaking bad so I'm going to watch better call Saul now Bert notices amazing. It's old but it's amazing. It's good not heard of that. Yeah well that's going on the both. Okay what our forth and have you ever. Seen Madman. I've watched one or two of those away but otherwise happened. Okay fantastic twisted twitter. Do All right before twitter tells me what to do now. We're done takes much watching listening whatever and hopefully we can do it again for Kyle and Christen I am Eric. Have a great day awesome. Everything is also.

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David Freese on Game 6 of the 2011 World Series

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

46:51 min | 1 year ago

David Freese on Game 6 of the 2011 World Series

"Baseball tonight the PODCAST. This is the baseball tonight. Podcast for Wednesday march eighteenth. Two Thousand Twenty of US strolling in my home studio Taylor. Shrank is producing from his home studio. It's now become like a a popular thing on twitter tale. You're getting a lot of response about your your your podcast studio. It's kind of wild a little bit later on the show I'll share. What kind of gear? I haven't I can tweet it out to For people that are interested. But I'm definitely lucky to have this sort of setup I mean even people I mean forecast podcasting business. It's like you even have a USB microphone at home. So it's it's cool that I have the stuff on hand and I appreciate the interest because podcasting is thriving right. Now it's about the only thing it absolutely is thriving and because of the circumstances of course we had this idea of reaching out to people who'd been involved in some of the game's biggest moments involved in the game's biggest games and we interviewed David freeze yesterday. He was the hero game. Six of the two thousand eleven world series which is arguably the greatest game of all time. It tell you back me up on this. He was amazing. I like the clarity and precision of his memories to me. Were absolutely remarkable. I first of all you'll hear it in the interview. He had a blast like walking through all this talking about everything. So it's a great interview and I. I'm always shocked at how well these guys can remember every single moment. I guess when you are in a big spotlight dad with millions of eyes on you. I guess it is burned into your brain but I don't remember anything like that at all. I've vivid memories but I mean he was breaking it down beat for beat. And it's it's wild to to hear so I hope everyone enjoys it. Yeah absolutely you're right. He was having fun when when I reached out to you know I haven't talked about that in like eight years. That'd be fun and I thanked him after we got done the interview and he He talked about how much enjoyed you know. Having a conversation about one of the greatest moments in baseball history with the Yankees camp shutdown Aaron Boone began the drive home to the New York area from Florida on Sunday. He spoke with Major League Baseball Network Radio. Because everyone's you know eventually going to be in a different place I feel like our guys as a whole Do a really good job of kind of preparing themselves and putting them cells in a good position. So I I'm confident that that our guys will be really responsible no matter where they disperse to or if they stay here. I know they're going to do all they can to kind of stay ready and stay fresh there So you just kind of support them in half those conversations you know. And I don't know it's GonNa evolve every day and it's going to be more and more advanced every day You know hopefully eventually we start to get some more clarity and know exactly what we're dealing with baseball shutdown. You're seeing some players. Basically go into a baseball version of PITSTOP ASTROS. As Justin. Verlander is out for six weeks. After having groin surgery he'd been slowed by the injury early in spring training and then had a mild strain of a back muscle. The construction crews continue to work on the Rangers New Ballpark Globe. Life field Despite the fact that they've got the corona virus and people dealing with that they're keeping the workers there to finish the ballpark McClintock. The General Manager Philly told reporters. Yesterday the contract talks with Jt. Real Muto have been put on hold and I'm going to be talking about that with Buksh Chambi in our podcast on Thursday about all of the potential dominos that could come from the situation and that certainly is one of them. Negotiations with individual players Major League baseball teams pledged thirty million dollars to help cover lost wages for ballpark employees. The quote from Commissioner Rob Manfred motivated by desire to help some of the most valuable members of the baseball community. Each club is committed one million dollars now before we get to David freeze during this time of social isolation no games to watch. It's not just the baseball tonight. Podcast is still turning out content for you. Espn podcast is adapting to this new normal and honestly the entire roster thriving under these circumstances just this week there have been new episodes of ESPN daily. The world's pod. The hoop collective the meantime show the right time with Bomani Jones and Mattie and the caddy. You can listen to all of these more wherever. Get Your podcast. Let's get to it. Damaged breeze played eleven years. The big leagues a thousand forty one hits of nine nineteen in the postseason. David how you doing. I'm good buster. How are you? I'm hanging in there? This weird baseball. I really appreciate you coming on as I explained to in a message I sent you. You know my hope was in this time. When we'RE NOT GONNA have baseball was to bring in people who have been in the game and involved in big moments new. The first person who popped to mind. I appreciate you taking the time to do this. Yeah for sure I saw I saw. You hit me up and you know exciting. So yeah let's do this all right so you were involved in what? I'll always considered to be the greatest game that's been played in baseball. And of course you were the star of that Game Game. Six Two thousand eleven world series in his. We start to go back to that year. I didn't realize you know I had in my mind. You've been around for four or five years and then I go back and look at it. That was your two hundred first game in the big lates you'll relatively relatively new big leaguer. What what was your sense of that team going into the year You know I think when you're when you're cardinal. You have an idea that you that you have a chance pretty consistently every year. We had some big names. No we brought him Berkman Had some other guys and you know we thought we had a chance to to get Dr Coburn. You know like you said I had only had around two hundred games or so dealt with injuries. You know the last couple of years even in two thousand eleven. I was out for three months or so. Two months maybe But man we were excited and going into September. You know everybody knows we were around ten and a half back behind. Atlanta and and we kind of took off you know they teetered a little bit and then we started feeling it that we actually had a legit shot. Yeah and before it gets September. One ask you. That was Albert's last year and Louis what was that like With that sort of hanging over the team or did it or did it. Was it sort of set to the side? I think I think Albert's pretty good at kind of taking his situations and push them aside and worrying about the team and I'm worrying about how he can help and then you from what I remember. I don't think that was really a topic and I don't think it was something where we were like. Oh he'll be back he'll be back. I think we just focused on it. I think we we understood what was in front of us and we just focused on that. So asset ten plays out. When did you start to get a sense? When did you guys start to get a sense that something was building I'M GONNA get my dates wrong but I think it was either late August or right when September hit and Think we had three games with Atlanta. They came in and from what I remember. I think Albert. Kinda ducked farted. Worn off Kimberly. Down the first baseline and we walked off and we ended up sweeping that series so we picked up three games on them. And then we were like. Oh Yeah. Let's let's get going. I think that was. That was the biggest turning point of the season for sure and I was looking at it and you mentioned you've been dealing with some injuries. You finished up the regular season really well. Levin for twenty nine six extra base hits six walks in six strikeouts in eleven seventy five opium. When did you start to feel like you're okay? I'm feeling and I feel like I'm getting it back. Yeah I You know like I said I was out for a while. I think You know in ten. I missed the last half of the year. 'cause I two surgeries on my feet and then lined brank hit me in the hand in eleven In Atlanta I think it was the Lanta and then saw you know I missed a few months you know and I was fresh. You know I felt good. You know working with Mac and just Just kinda getting rolling and we had a good September. I think there's something about September where you just feel it and you know you kind of see the light at the end of the tunnel and you you push and you just go on and I had a good. I had a good October. I think people forget my first eight or ten at bats against Philli. I think struck out every single time. For whatever reason like you know your face cliff? Lee Hamels holiday You know I have some nerves this and that so I think I wasn't really aggressive mentally and that changed after I've kind of noticed some things and I'm just let's go but yeah I you know I played a good September but there's a kind of a ten at bat you know line in there where It just it just wasn't going to Tony. Almost savvy I know. Tony almost sat me against Oswald But he didn't and then I kind of took off so you said you noticed some things what what were those things. I was just late. I I was so late. Then you know people are always like you know. He started getting his foot down. He started getting his foot down. And I think it's that's correct but I think even before that I just started going. Kinda going sooner getting my logo and sooner and mentally I wasn't kind of in the middle If that makes sense I was definitely just kind of reacting to things instead of being the aggressor In that kind of changed. And that's how my whole career a little bit. I caught up. The the ball starts beating me. You know I liked going right center this and that but When that happens too much there's a fine line I'm where it just doesn't work and You know things changed I think those welcome against Philli. So what was it like? You know people who don't follow the cardinals closely. Don't know that you grew up in Saint Louis area. What was that like when you emerge in the big leagues is a member of the cardinals? Being from that area it was. It was insane Not Knowing what was going to happen. A couple of years later with eleven You know it was kind of craziness all the way up up until then you know being in San Diego the system Getting traded getting that phone call from his. They lack That's just you know you know. It was a dream to cardinal growing up and Just to get that opportunity and I think the man the coolest thing about it was you grow up a Cardinal Fan. You don't get drafted by them. Then you get traded to them but you're traded to a team that has a chance to win just like that and I was. They helped me out man. They I got to get double. I was older that Alan Craig playing third and Springfield and so they just jumped me pretty much. Because I was a year older I think. And they just gave me a shot in Memphis and That helped my career for sure. Now you know this better than I do because you talked to a lot of players. I talked to players. Who privately will say you know what plano hometown wasn't really what I wanted. It's harder to play in your hometown. What it sounds like. That wasn't really an issue for you. How much time do you got? It wasn't at first but after eleven man it you know it hit me hard and I didn't handle it very well. You know obviously everybody knows about you. Know the the drinking issues I've had in the past and you know that that's tennis from high school Wasn't just the baseball. You Know Cardinal thing but man there's so many things that came from it but there's also things that I just didn't like handling. I didn't like the attention I didn't just didn't like I don't know I just wasn't prepared. I wish I was more prepared for it. I think my career my cardinal career would have ended up differently a lot of things differently. But I've been obvious everything worked out How it did And I'm blessed for that but Yeah there's so many good things but I was definitely a guy that just didn't really understand or sometimes appreciate but Just didn't really like the attention. So yeah absolutely sometimes use off so you mentioned that in this first day at bats that you had in the philly series that you were feeling some nerves. How much of that was you know being on on on the on the cardinals? Or how much just naturally the first time through the postseason? Yeah I think it was. It wasn't that was one thing I was good. I like I think when it when the game came came around I wasn't thinking I was a cardinal. It was just baseball and so if there were nerves it was just nerves. And I when you're facing Roy Halladay and silly game wants I postseason. You better find yourself really quick or you're going to have some issues And I'm fortunate that we had Philly we have you know one hundred and two hundred and three win team right out of the gate 'cause it woke me up you know it took a little bit but You know you're GONNA FACE HOLIDAY QUICKLY. Hamels right out of the gate You know it's GonNa Test You. You know you just have. You'd have to you have to pick it up. You know a lot of a lot of players who I've seen in the postseason. If they get off to a bad start they have a terrible time trying to turn this around for example last year in the postseason Gary Sanchez started out as struggling and then he began to fly a little bit. That's generally been my experience for you to dig yourself out the way that you did in the middle of the series pretty remarkable when you think about it. Yeah Thanks I yeah. I don't know I I think one thing that helps me a little bit Actually I I I think off days help. I think those are I. Think a Lotta guys like to keep playing but how critical the postseason is. If you're kinda slumping in the postseason. You always get those off days not necessarily getting the cage Because I'm a firm. I'm so like on the mental side of hitting more than more than mechanics This and that but man those off days help if if you you let them help and you kind of just readjust and slow down understand. You know it's the same game and all that But I've had moments in the postseason after that where it didn't slow down you know in series and It just didn't end well but I think that was a big big reason. Why kinda turned the corner is he. You just gotTa Check Yourself Figure IT OUT ALL RIGHT. You killed it against the brewers. How'd you feel in that series? Twelve for twenty two three homers three. Rbi was you know. I've said this before but that was probably the most anger anger most angry series. I've ever played in my life. As far as the two teams going back and forth. You know they. They ran through the division all year. You know it was man. It was awesome. It was it was a series Just going back and forth with them and you just Kinda jump on the train and get going you know. A lot of us had a good series. I remember game one. I can still hear Braun and fielder going to back in Milwaukee game on and man it was like this is GonNa be on. This is going to be cool and You know that Owes Wall came in Philly. Gave me confidence because I knew I almost got benched? I discuss almost got got the nod and it just kind of gave me some confidence I think confidence will slow the game down if you can find confidence and The bruisers was just the blast. So you said You you knew you almost got benched. How did you find out about that or was it just something somebody said to you? Yeah I mean I think I understood Tony. Pretty well Some people don't but I think You know I think I the way that Tony played me matched me up throughout eleven with my injuries with the scalps. Oh you know I had A. I had a good feeling that walking to the field that I might not play and then when I saw myself in there I was like okay. Let's go I think I made my first at Bat. Also against in that game but You know and even like if I can jump to the dodgers like there's times where people are like free should start for. You should start. I'm sitting back going no. He shouldn't like they know they know what they're doing in the in in a sense. But you know I just Going back to the brewers man it was just it was just a series that you're one step away from from a world series as a Saint Louis Cardinal. You know and it was go time. Yeah I'M GONNA come back to that dodger thing you open the door for me. That was one of the people saying that during that series. But I don't I don't want to give away the world series and the reason why I was screaming at during the what the eighteen world series so after you guys after five games in the first off what was it like to play in the world series for the first time you play a lot of baseball games in your lifetime but what was it like playing world series game the crowd when you get announced Everybody wearing you know Cardinal Rug Man The coolest part about being in these situations the memories you hold onto the things you see the stuff you hear the fans. I mean all of it like that's what I I don't really care about the outcome and all you know I do obviously life changing stuff but the things you feel in here and see when you're in the middle of it. There's nothing better like is just explosive. You know for the rest of your life when when you think about that stuff and just come out in the Field Game. One understanding what's at stake You're playing a team. You have no beef with. It was just a nice series. It really was to really good teams. You know two teams. That knew they were GONNA win And it was just a hell of a series all right after five games though you guys are down three to. What's a feeling going back to Saint Louis just that it was game six? That's it you know I don't know if you're GONNA jump on this but we had a rain rain out right. Yeah biker think we you know we got back in town you know and knowing we're down three to to You know come into the field. There was talk about weather for game six. This and that and then storm apparently was coming in and we got the game cancelled and you know that obviously pushed our starters back and health carpenter. Chris Carpenter you know get more rest this and that but you know coming into game six we were just so like present we are so in the now. We had great leadership We had guys at one before we had guys that have been cardinals for years. They understood the pressure. The expectations You know we just had. It was just so calm we were ready and I think one big thing is and I saw this a lot with the dodgers. The young guys that came up. We're just flat out ready. You know. And you you look at Allen Craig John J Scou- so you know I played my part. You know Hymie just the young guys like these guys matter because they're in the lineup there in the bullpen and they're they're on the staff The calmness our team I think played a big part at all so engaged. Now before I get to that you you said something that telling you you said you know Tony Somehow got the game kills and no one has stronger will in baseball history. Even Tony Larussa. You know far better than I do so. Did you think that he had something to do with that? I mean that's obviously going to be a joke right now. I don't know I don't really know who makes that decision especially in those games if the league just handles it. Or if I'm Sir you know or teams are this and that but from what I remember. Storm was coming and nobody wanted to blow arms. Not you know the waist arms early on and this and that and I remember leaving the art of five o'clock and then going to get some Mexican with a body and going it's not even GonNa rain. This is unbelievable so everybody kind of had another day to to ramp up But it was it was funny and I think that's the kind of perfect jokes for that much power all right game. Six back and forth You guys are trading runs but then they scored three in the top of the seventh year. Down seven to four. What do you remember about sort of the mood in the Dugout at that point? You don't want to talk about the three years we made. And 'cause I mean honesty let's be honest. The first half of the game was absolutely terrible. Right off the mood was okay. Obviously I'm not say it was from what I remember. I'M NOT GONNA say it was like. Hey guys we got this. The focus was there. It was absolutely there Maybe Odyssey more quiet in the dugout. I don't think anybody was thinking. All right it's over Obviously but the focus was president and we were just grinding. We were going Yeah I know you're not really. I don't really remember the middle innings. I remember the first part I remember the ball hitting off the top of my head. I remember the you know the von play in the pop up and left and snap at the middle innings. I just don't remember how all that went down but I just I just know that we just. We just weren't scared. We weren't feeling sorry for ourselves. We just kept pushing Allen. Craig hits a home. Run cuts it to seven five and that's going to take the ninth inning. If tally felise on the mound there's one out. Albert Hits a double lamps. Are you Lance Berkman walks. You are on the on Deck Circle with with Alan Craig at the plate. What's going through your mind? I've never faced felise before. That's what I'm thinking. I'm about to get a hundred ninety MPH slider. What's the best plan at? No I think I was successful in that at bat because I was ready and nothing else was on my mind I wasn't thinking about. I wasn't thinking about losing. I wasn't thinking about winning. You know I wasn't thinking about anything but getting ready for that at that and You know if you can slow stuff down before you even get on deck. You know your chances to succeed obviously greater but I was just watching Craig's. Maybe I think he got him on a slider from I remember you know but I do remember just walking up there thinking nothing you know like being prepared and just literally thinking nothing and just understanding the moment and just kind of embracing it. I didn't know obviously I was going to end up and I think a lot of people knew how is GonNa end up in the sense of that. Probably going to punch you know and this and that and it was over his felices us on right nasty and But you know I got a shot you know. That's amazing to hear 'cause I you know we're working last year with Alex Rodriguez on Sunday night baseball. He's told the story about standing the on deck circle when Edgar Martinez hit that game winning double when Griffey runs in the division series in one thousand nine hundred five one griffey scored first base with a slide and Alex's acknowledge he's in the circle and he is scared to death. He's hoping the game ends before it gets in his hands but he doesn't hear be true. That can't be through that a hundred times from Alex. He was a young player. But that's not your mindset at all no I mean I've had moment obviously moments Either Normal Games where you're more nervous than some some bigger games. But I just wasn't that way And I think maybe the weeks leading up to it and I know I was over three. I don't know how I got out Earlier now I don't remember how I got out early in that game but I was rolling for three weeks. And and I you know I just felt good and but like I said I've had moments where I'm nervous and I don't feel like I'm GonNa Succeed in this and that but that's just wasn't one of those times. I remember every pitch of that fleas at-bat even after when he spun me three one with one hundred dollar heater. I just you know just Kinda slice through it you know. I didn't immediately go. You know crude I just I just kinda readjusted and just said don't let that happen again you know so. He threw it in the same spot. Yeah and take us to that point when he throws the ball. Tell us what you see and then is it leaves your bat. What you're thinking After after the I think After the it was three to right. Yeah Yeah After the three one I just took a breath And it was like it's coming again. He wants to end this on a heater and I looked so terrible. At the Hundred Mile. An hour heater that Like regardless if you liked the ball out there that's still impossible to it you know. It's it's really tough. You just have to line up accordingly but I think in the big leagues one of the toughest things for Pitcher to do against guys that are feeling really good is you just. Don't want to duplicate you. Just don't want to throw the same pitch you know two times in a row. Because I think you're going to have a better chance to adjust if you're feeling good and and You know I have power that way this and that and you know he kinda threw it right. There I made really good contact. I hit it really well and I'll be honest when I when I hit it. I was like this is GonNa go in my home field and I've hidden I've hit homers there before and I was like Oh my goodness and I took about five more steps and was like this is going to get caught and it was. It was ninety feet of just pure internal emotion of not knowing going back and forth And I lost the ball probably right before I got to. I in the only reason why I knew it's fell is because I heard the crowd and I was like I don't WanNa say on air but I was you know whatever I've seen everything I saw it bounce off I saw bounce off the wall towards me and then I thought wow Albert and Berkman are going to score. This is crazy now. Don't get thrown out at third. So what skill for I've heard Joe Girardi toxic about. He got a triple in the nineteen ninety six world series and he said he could feel the crowd as underneath his feet as he's rounding. Vases what about you need to you know. I was probably slowest guy on the field off but man it just felt like they're pushing you you know it's it's I duNno. It's just so powerful. There's a big difference between being in the crowd and I can't wait to be in the crowd now like I can't wait to be in the crowd and be around those moments when I go to games and hopefully be a part of historic moments but when the when fifty thousand people are pouring on you instead of around around you It's just I'm sure it's just a different feeling and you know knowing you're going to get the third you know I wouldn't have gone to third of I didn't think I was gonNA actually make it but the throw is if it was online it was obviously going to be closer to them but the crowd is just incredible. No it's thirty five degrees the whole place things that's over hoping it's not over Then you hit a ball that felt like a minute you know it was in the air for a minute and it actually falls yeah man. Your hometown goes ballistic. You can't ask for anything else. Oh standing on third base in that moment must've been so cool. Yeah it was It was sweet. You know just looking at Oak. Ken though I can still see his face. You know it was just a cool cat you cry. You know he's throwing my whole career has Canada's probably the smartest baseball man. I've been around as far as anticipation the way he works with Yati. You know just just incredible moment just to high five him and then just look in the DUGOUT NC everybody. It was just a really cool feeling and the game goes on You. Guys get within one strike. Losing the world series in the game goes on because of that triple that. She hit top of the tenth inning. Though Josh Hamilton Hits it two run homer Guy Chai Yeah and then you guys tie it in the bottom of the tents. What was that all so Hamilton was off right. Yeah yeah he hit that home. You know. I've said this before I was actually at peace. You know back ten. I was like not because I thought I did my part Blah but I was like man this guy everything. This guy has been through everything. He's fought whether it's self inflicting or whatnot I can relate a little bit. This is just damn cool. This is brutal if we lose this but for him to do this. What a moment But that shows that we're down to is that that's correct right going into tenth Dan. Yep Yeah We just didn't we didn't waiver we had. We had this calcio. John J all these guys coming up to. I think he might have to remind me but that the ending that Loesch had the bond Thank you I think the I think he popped a bunt past Past the pitch. That was a big play. I think I think that happened. He had the boat some guys over and then I think one of the biggest in hindsight. Obviously if I'm playing third I probably try and make the same play but there was a ground ball to beltway with one out and somebody was scoring and he could have thrown home and obviously they're up to so if you just let us have run But that you know in hindsight whatever but you know that turned out to be a big play because the guy in third was dead to rights at home I think maybe it was closer than I remember but He wants to. I got the outlet. The run score. You know we're down one and I think we just kept going and got a couple more hits loose and guys over and Berkman man. Do you want another guy to play so Berkman Situation Like Oh man this guy Just really cool really cool. Ab So calm. And just you know the defenses way back. Because they don't want extra bases and he just dumped it in the center on a two to count. I believe the tied up incredible. You got a pretty good memory and going back through the play by play. And that's what's your cool. Jackie right also scored on that They intentionally walked Albert and then Lance Hits that single. Tie The score at that point. And so you guys go through that inning. You're tied in the next inning. You're GONNA lead off. You're anticipating what's going through your mind like I'm I'm on the field like inbetween pitches thinking about my that. Should I be out on? Everyone does but I'm like I'm just trying to already get my composure. And just don't do too much like leadoff hitter and just whack something wax something you know you get a full two minutes you storm in. Get yourself on It's a completely different at bat. Compared to the ninth inning. Obviously because if you get out the game still going you know like that's why people ask me. What's your favorite? You know the home run has to be your favorite hit the bar. It's not like like I love the home run. I love you know just the thrill of winning the game and this and that but that's ripple is by far my favorite hit out of the two just because of where we were in the situation of the series but going into that inning You know just going on deck can just trying to keep my composure. I knew how important that was. You know like just being able to understand how to slow it down. take your A. B. and we all you don't succeed unless you get results Obviously but that Odyssey gets in the way it speeds up on you over the course of a season maybe that helps in the postseason because you just are more present. You're not worried about your career here this you know there's so many different things in the postseason about about that compared to the regular season but just being on deck and just getting ready for that that And just trying to do something little just to get get ending kick-started can you see the pits that mark low through to you and your mind's eye is talk absolutely And I can see other pitches over the course of my career I can see some ground out so I can see strikeouts still You know but I yeah I don't I can see the three. Oh pitch that Gary Gary called a strike was I was furious Obviously I'm glad you called strike. I I don't know if it was in the box or not but I remember just being like I'm trying to lead off the inning and the seventh inning of the world series. And you're calling that a strike you know and it probably was but I just thought it was a little high But Yeah I mean. Yeah there's certain moments whether you're on a baseball field at work somewhere else. Are you know with your family that you just always will remember I can see the I think it was a change up obviously You know middle in And I can see halfway to the plate and what did it feel like off the bat? Because I'm guessing you knew you clipped it It was funny. I know I hit a home run off owes walt against Philli. Two different pitches. Oswald was a heater mark. Low was a change up but it was the same feeling. It was the exact same pitch. You know obviously different pitches but it was the same pitch and I finished with one hand on the wall one. I finished with two against mark well but it was the same feeling. It's crazy and people don't remember those homer Odyssey because it was just kind of in the middle of the series. But it's so funny to me because I can still feel how similar those those Those hits were so you guys With your home run you win that game. You win the next night. Your your world series champions them. I'm curious after playing like I said I'll always look at that. Game is the greatest game in baseball. History of you've ever had gone back. Conversations with members of the Rangers about that game and in particular Nelson. Cruz is known as one of the nicest people in baseball like. Everybody talks about what a great team is. What a great guy. Have you ever bumped into him and talk about that game? Yeah we haven't I mean I've I bumped into him Odyssey for the next eight years or so but never brought the game. I with felise in Pittsburgh you know after and you know we I think we kind of joked around about it a little bit man but I just I just tried to respect it. I know how powerful those moments were and I didn't really bring it up. You know you hear rumors about that. Game and Could police have gone back out the next inning? You know this and that and then you hear rumors that Nelson Cruz had a pulled groin. And he wanted to be on the field when they won in. So Ron left him in. You know I don't know if any of these are true everybody makes stuff up but you just hear you hear things that could have altered the game in some sense and so I just leave it. You know it just happened how it happened and I just I just let it go when I run into you know players on the opposing teams and the call. That Joe Buck made that night as you know. We'll see you tomorrow night Echoes his father. Have you ever talking about that? Yeah yeah I talked him randomly. You know a Saint Louis Guy. And that's you know people can think whatever they want about the call and this and that and To me that's just one of those special moments of my career. The way that late that way that laid out landing land in the grass out there. You Know Joe Making that call just like his dad I think Japan just a special moment That that plays a big part might have been one of the first times I realized how. How much of an impact announcers have on moments you know when they just do it how it's supposed to be done and it just lays out perfectly with the highlight just a special moment. It just adds to everything. Dave Roberts has told me that he does not go by when he doesn't bump into a red sox fan who brings up stolen base in the two thousand four playoff they had against the Yankees and it starts off the comeback. I'm assuming the same thing is true for you in game. Six Yeah It's special. You know I live in Austin Texas now but you know I go out to see some retired. You know you get a chance to go back home a lot more But when I go home there's just not to me. There's not a more special place for that to happen and a lot of it has to do with being a hometown. Guy Saint Louis. Isn't that big of a city? So you're a couple of degrees away from everybody Everybody's got connection to you and it's just special man like I've never had a single moment where somebody has come up to me about all that and it not be a good conversation. Everybody's just really great and I'm just so grateful about all the people in Saint Louis how they treated me Over the last ten years or so Just just really cool. Obviously you know it becomes a lot sometimes in an obviously the died down over the years but you know people will remember that you know rightfully so and gave it just to put a ball on this. I mentioned to you that during the eighteen world series when the lineups would come out or a game situation that you would be taken out of the game is a pitch. Inter I'd be losing my mic please. Heart World Series Game. Yeah I mean taking me out is like I agree with the lineup cards. Sometimes you know like I taken out of the whole different story. But that's just the way that's just the way that they did it out of funny story against in Boston. Eighteen they I think I got left against Barnes and the whole month of September and October. I would have gotten taken out at that moment. I'm and I ended up punching out and I was future. Yes I know. They caught what I was saying in the dugout and stuff but I was so mad but Now man my three hundred time was special. You know I was going to retire. After my last year in Pittsburgh I ended up getting traded. I was actually kind of frustrated. I got traded. 'cause I just kind of wanted to. This is sounds so weird I guess but I kind of just wanted to move on to retire and I ended up going to L. A. And playing well and fall in love with those guys out there and ended up staying another year just built built more memories so. I'm glad I stuck around but just a just a really good career a career that had its moments that it shouldn't have happened you know with getting Iraq's got not recommend nine blew my feet out I don't think people ever know that whole story but you know just a just a nice career at all. It's all because of a lot of people I just didn't do it myself so I thank everybody for David. This was awesome. I really appreciate you taking the time. Yeah appreciate bussers. Good to hear you lead your tweets. Ra Buster bleacher tweets for Wednesday rick. At New Guy. Eighty six writes in I he he. He tweeted in a statement and And then a question here so he initially wrote in. I watched the cards ranger's game six and through the first eight and a half innings saying. Why Awful Defense base running etc awful game then? The rest of game happened. Yup I got it so then he followed that up with what world series game seven. That did not happen. Would you have wanted to see for me? It was ninety. Six Atlanta at New York would have been Glavin vs phone. Yeah it was funny to hear David. Laugh about all the mistakes made early in the game and and You know I think he was chuckling. Over the fact that to get to those key moments at the end of the game I glossed over what happened earlier in the game because it was kind of a mess and then it turned into a great game. There are a number of games in baseball history that are like that For example you know reds and Red Sox game six nine hundred seventy five. It was pretty much in the eighth inning. Look like the reds are GonNa win. They're up six three. And then this amazing series of events happen the rest of that game just as it didn't game six in two thousand eleven. I'm GONNA cheat a little bit on your question Rick I'm not. I'm going to include the National League Championship Series. In this the game that I would have been fascinated to see game seven. Nineteen Eighty six. The mets against the Houston Astros. Because that was the series were Mike. Scott was unhittable in starts in game one and in game four and remember gave six was so spectacular in part because the backdrop was the mets desperately. Not WanNA play game seven. Because they'd have to face. Scott and of course. There's always been that talk about how he allegedly cut the baseball to make a move as much as he wasn't that series but the mets would've had to try to figure out a way to beat might Scott and game seven and I gotTa tell you. I don't think they would have. Brian Felice at Brian. Felice writes in with the likelihood of a drastically shortened season which teams are best poised to get hot just long enough to steal playoff berth. There's no doubt depth plays at the Tampa Bay rays. We talked in spring training about how might be the deepest Tampa Bay team. We've ever seen the dodgers with enormous depth the Yankees with enormous debt. Those two franchises are not only having the resources to to fill out a roster but also do an excellent job of Finding value players like Chris Taylor for the dodgers Max Muncie and on the Yankee side. A little boy and Michael Talk Just Ed at F- tough one there. He writes in just a general. Psa It's worth noting that the excellent documentary series baseball can be watched for free via the PBS website and viewing APPs. That's a Ken Burns documentary. And another thing I might have to watch if this thing goes on for a long time because I do like Ken Burns. I'VE WATCHED HIS CIVIL WAR. World War Two and Vietnam War documentary so this might be next up for me. I'm assuming you've watched buster. Oh Yeah people ask me all the time you know. Who is your favorite player that you ever met? And I I go to the absolute nerd version of that. My favorite to person who works in baseball that I got to meet was ned. Martin was broadcast for the Red Sox. 'cause that was the voice. I heard growing up on a farm in Vermont He was a radio broadcaster for the Red Sox and then I got to spend time with Ken Burns and that was really cool so jealous and of course you know. He does a lot of his work in a barn in the state of Vermont. So very proud about. I didn't know that did you. Did you go to the barn now? Well I met him actually New York City and I began to ask him questions and then he sort of pivoted to the conversation handed with his his series. That was coming out but I was Kinda. I wanted to ask him about all. I'm a big civil war nerd so I wanted to ask him about some of the choices they made in one of the big figures it was in that. was documentary series. But of course he wanted to focus on the work now which I understand. Oh man what a treat last question just kind of a you know lots of people are asking as we said earlier in the show what I have on. Hand Down here in the bunker So for the mixer that you see in that picture that's a Beringer xanax. Twelve four USB A twelve input mixer. So yeah you got four xl. L. Reports on it. You got a couple more on there as well and it's got a USB in out. So I if I wanted to. I could just plug this into my computer and use it as a microphone which we might explore if we You know mix up our our recording software over here which were working out on the back end. And then. In terms of the microphones. I have I have sure. Sm Fifty Eight Cardio. A dynamic vocal microphones. I've got a couple of them and then I also have a USB. It's an audio technica. It's and I think it's an eight hundred two hundred and they are USB and xl. Are Combo microphones that I can also just plug into my computer. And it's got a headphone Jack on it so nothing actually all that crazy over here. A lot of wires to get everything set up correctly. A mix minus setup on another computer running out the board so I can get buster on skype which basically means everything. That's coming into the board. Buster can hear. I can hear him coming out and it goes into my recorder. Oh my recorder. I've got a little task game right here. Nothing crazy also just like a mini output not the XL outputs. But I'll tweet all this out. This is my new show and that probably that like nine people care about but we got questions so I have answers. Yeah and I was going to jump in and say that As you were going through that reminded me of my time growing up on the farm when my stepfather was started to tell me about the mechanics of one of our trackers. It was like my brain shutdown right. It was probably the way I've always told people that the rest of my family members hate baseball like all my siblings won't baseball. My parents had no interest in baseball. So when you were just talking right. That was the way to them when I was talking about baseball right like it. Just works provides family food. Okay great buster. Let's move on. That's wait a second. Let's let's let's talk about this for one second here so no one else in. Your family likes baseball. So would you. Just listen to games on your own. Where did this or did this love? Come from where was it ceded? It was by my mom who got me a book and Sandy Colfax when I was eight years old and gave me two packs baseball cards. Never forget the first car I ever looked out Gary Sutherland. Nineteen seventy-three Houston Astros Card Lee May was the second card that ever looked at. I was hooked and I'm sure that my mom was somewhat regretful. For getting me those things because after that I as my mom once said to me sort of kidding you have the potential to be very boring. Needed it when I told that story. Well that's the bleacher. Tweets subscribe review the podcast. Please and just a couple quick notes here. Don't sleep on it. We previewed all six divisions across baseball with the folks who cover the team so they were very informative. I learned a lot if you haven't been hammering this but just go back through the feed. I'm going to tweet them out at. Espn podcast today and again we've got a lot of great content coming not just from this show but from all the shows across the ESPN podcast portfolio so follow that account especially at ESPN podcasts. And that'll be sure you'll be sure that you don't miss a thing if you're looking for things to consume while you're in social isolation and my thanks to Taylor not only for producing the podcast but all the information about the podcast equipments Which I never knew before today and my thanks David freeze man. I was fun. And what a great baseball conversation with him. Have a great day. Everybody thanks for listening. We'll talk to you on Thursday bookshop. He's going to join us to give you a lot of his top. Ten list of things like his favorite books. He's favorite movies is favorite games. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight. 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Mason and Ireland [hr 2]

Mason & Ireland

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Mason and Ireland [hr 2]

"ID SPN Elaine Mason in Ireland. We got so much going on today. Lakers LeBron makes his debut last night. They lose at Portland and LCS game number six tonight in Milwaukee. We'll have that game for you here on ESPN LA seven, ten. The Rams on Sunday will play at San Francisco. They are six and looking to make it seven. Oh, can you imagine a tell you what if you look at their schedule at San Francisco, completely winnable game should win, should win there. You know, that's a that's a battle between student in pupil with Kyle Shanahan member. How good the game was there last year, like was forty one thirty nine one night on a Thursday monument. Fifty one forty. Nine. Super, super cool. So you got San Francisco. You got Green Bay at home than at New Orleans home to Seattle, and then Kansas City in Mexico City, Kansas City in Mexico City that is going to be right now. I would say that's game of the year material, right in Mexico. Wish that was in Coliseum, but I'm I'm trying to angle my way to Mexico City for them. I've never been to Mexico City either. I haven't either. I hear it's like a million miles everywhere else. It makes you altitude sick. So here's you've been saying Todd, Gurley MVP Todd, Gurley MVP I've been saying, I think Jared Goff is gonna win. I said at the beginning of the year, girly is on an unbelievable run. Get this. He is on pace on pace for sixteen hundred sixty one rushing yards. Twenty four rushing TV TD's twenty three hundred twenty all purpose yards and twenty nine TD's overall he had twenty last year now I don't think he's going to score twenty nine touchdowns but I think he's got a chance to surpass twenty. I do it. I think that you're gonna find that when more and more teams play, the Rams are gonna wanna take away. These really inventive passing game game plans that McVeigh comes up with. And that's when you Pat him with girly, which is why I think early is going to win MVP. You know, the other gotta look out for Melvin Gordon yet overlords numbers charge rate your chargers. The San Diego Chargers can run the ball low, but they also got that take the ball and run it back running. You know, here's a nut it on that. So NFL owners. Apparently at the NFL owners meetings at league meetings, they're concerned about the viability of the chargers. Originally. They thought they were going to generate four hundred million dollars in personal seat licenses. Instead it's looking more like one hundred fifty million in seat licenses, revenue cry. But here's the thing. The chargers signed a twenty year lease, and they will not be let out of that. So they are free to leave, although think about who would ultimately decide to let them out stand. Yeah, but stan's part of the revenue model for stand right in building the stadium is having a second team. They didn't get out any deal ever release a car you wanted to get out of and get out of days dean Spanos, Al Davis, no, but you'd have to sue the league to leave. I I wouldn't necessarily if it's a complete unmitigated disaster, the legal get involved. And it sounds like there's possibility. It's complete unmitigated disaster. I know when I was over at the I guess they call it the showroom or the demo room or whatever it is. When you go look at the new stadium, the Rams stadium, I did buy personal seat licenses for the Rams. It's it's like they're all these places where they're doing a sales pitch in. It's really impressive. They were all Rams fans. There were no charger fans. They're looking to buy personal seat licenses, and it's hard to imagine that they're going to be able to sell personal seat licenses for the whole stadium. The way the Rams are the Rams every seat is a personal c. license. Yeah, the chargers. I can't imagine. They're going to sell that many personal seat licenses say really dramatically apparently already talked about doing yeah, which they're marking there in London this week, right? Yeah, they're in London. Okay. They've been pretty good. Apparently. I don't know. I don't follow the sandy four games in a row. Rivers is having a good year Gordon seventy Goodyear. A lot of people think they're Super Bowl. Contender. A New England still looks like the team to beat to me. Well, New England after that. And I, you know, flip a coin, I think if New England place, Kansas City, let's face it in the AFC championship game. I was ending Sunday. It'll be alright. Yeah. Did you see by the way that the NBA is now going to allow players out of high school to sign. And to play in the g. league, yes, for one hundred twenty five grand which isn't chump change. It used to be. You go for thirty five grand now have this fasttrack, but I'll just ask. Okay. If you're an elite high school player? Yep. Veers Zion, Williamson? Yep. Better to take the one twenty five and go to the g. league or could've Duke or Kentucky? Well, I mean, it sort of depends on well. First of all, the big thing is it depends on whether or not you want to go to college, not everybody wants to go to college. My ultimate goal is to go to the NBA, but I'm just specifically talking about if I know if I go to college, I'm only going for one year. Do I go higher trainer? Go to the g. league, get paid one twenty-five, screw school, or do I go for one year of the college experience get to play in the tournament, get coached up by coach k. or Calipari what's a better option better option is still to go to college. I think so Tetter still, but and you get that experience that you never get back. But if you don't get the grades, if you don't have any interest in it, I don't grade, they'll get you in. I mean. But sad, they'll get you in no matter. Wedges. Just don't wanna go through the charade of seeing because you gotta stay eligible. Right? But it used to be. I don't know if it's the same way or not, but UCLA's on a quarter system. So if you, let's say you're Lonzo ball or guy that's only going one year, right. Okay. You basically had to go to school in the fall. You have fall winter and spring quarters. Okay. You go to school in the fall for three months? Yup. September October. Not even September. They started UCLA start October first, October, November, December, right. You pass those classes. You get to three classes. You take three pass fail classes. Sure. Pass them k. yeah, now you're into winter quarter k, which starts in January, which you don't even need to finish. It's January, February, March k.. Let's you just never show up. You don't even go to class. Yeah, team gets all the way to the championship game. You just say, I'm dropping out. Yeah, it's just it's so sure. It's a sham. It's a sham Macher at she has my clan, Tony, a sham mockery. Yeah, I look. I don't think everybody is necessarily cut out for college, nor do they want it right. Some people just want to and you know they're going to be athletes high school kids who say, you know what? One hundred twenty five thousand dollars. Tracy McGrady yesterday safe. You had to do all over again. He would just turn pro. He didn't want to go to college right at no of done the hundred and twenty-five because you're getting coaching getting. He said he would. Here's my question. If you sign with somebody. You go into, who do you play with the other g. league guys? No, no. But I'm saying like, okay, I'm Zion. Williamson. I wanna declare for the g. league, which team do I go for? You go to any team you want. And then I think you go back into the draft is how I think it would work. You know, it'd be interesting is if you wa guess this is the problem that the NBA runs into if you decided, okay, Zion, Williamson were willing to pay you more to get your NBA rights. Yeah, that's a well. You remember the Larry Bird got drafted by the Celtics before his senior year of college. Right? 'cause they said we want to have his rights and why does that happen anymore? Because most kids just say, give me the money. I'm not going back to college, so they declare for the draft even though you've already drafted him yet. But I'm just saying like, oh, I against it. Yeah. Yeah, you can't draft. For example, you can't draft a fourteen year old saying, we're, we're banking on in four years. Stay college junior? No, he has to declare for the draft. Okay. That's how they fixed it. Right. I think it's a good solution. I think it's a good inbetween Steph and you know, it puts in all quiet on the on the lavar front. It kind of puts his little j. b. l. thing out of business out of business. Yeah, because now they're paying real money and your socio now who's the youngest ball brother? Not gel mellow yet gives him something to do right. Lamelo can go for the one, Johnny. Five, right? Yeah. And that would make perfect sense for him. Liangelo hasn't gotten a bite on the g. league. Jello. Yeah. No, he's not good enough. Yeah. I mean, he's got to go back to Lithuania, I think, oh God or Europe somewhere FU jeez, ugly, proof proof. John that the dodgers are gonna win tonight proof. Yes. You know, until the game start history, John. Oh, God. History repeats itself explain the next high. So I said, I have proof. The dodgers will win tonight game six and LCS in Milwaukee. I don't know how that possible. What is this proof? So the dodgers. Since okay, the team that takes a three two series lead in the baseball playoffs in history, seventy percent of the time. They win that series. Forty two eighteen the dodgers have a five and one series record when they're leading three, two in the best of seven. You know what the one is. Well, the one is nineteen fifty. Two World Series house wasn't last year dodgers five one series. When leading three, they were down down and they like him. So that would been Debbie more proof of your theory. Yeah. The Astros are up three two and one nugget. The other way, a Wade mile is going to start one nugget the other way. Hundred and ru Christian yelich Curtis Granderson and Brian Braun have got home, runs against rule in their in their careers. What's interesting about that is Curtis Granderson who everybody kind of snickered grabbed handyman. There's something about Curtis Granderson that everybody loves. My only was here. He'll always be on a postseason roster somewhere this year Milwaukee. Last year here seems like forever ago the Curtis Granderson the Grandi man was here annoying fans. Yeah, trying to coup is the Grandi man of this year for the dodgers free? No, no, no, no. I mean, the guy that annoys people the most, the guy that you dread seeing in the game, the guy who's like I'm done with this guy, whoa. Who they're mad at dramatic. It's Chatto. They hate Machado Machado's hidden. Yeah. Who's the guy like in other words, Pedro Byas was that I was glad, and by the way, Pedro bias has. Been fantastic. Scott Alexander is that guy. He didn't make the postseason roster. So you're talking about the guy that you wouldn't want in correct guy. You don't want in Grendel. Grendel. Grondahl has become the bad guy in this series. Yeah, and it's too. He's a very comes in something wrong must have happened. What's what's funny is he is already because he didn't interview when I wasn't here on this show. He's on our banned list. We had previously correct. Is that right? Yeah, he's absolutely man. He was terrible, awful. We band jasmine green doll, so no band players. Would you say Greg as migrant dollars the he has taken over for Pedro. Baya's. Trifled? Yeah, gates insane. I've never seen a major league catcher have that much trouble. Literally giveaway runs in game one of the series because you look at Kershaw Kershaw didn't pitch while he didn't make his pitches. He didn't have the hook the way had it in in game five, but. He Curtis or. Yes, minding rebel was one of the big reasons. Was anyone else currently on the ban list on the show except for grand all? Yes, Todd mcshay. He's banned Brian Windhorst Wayne Nour's. Yeah, that's a mutual divorce. Yes. Mostly my fault money. Anybody else. Dave mcmenamin oh, David, meta man. That's a light bits, a loose man. We could lift that at any moment. Although mcmenamin always this. Yeah. Not once twice. I'm sure I don't think that he always gets upset when we say he's to. Yeah, but you'll get a text from Dave saying we band. No, he doesn't care really try and trust me. He doesn't care. Why do we band Windhorst when Greg yelled at Greg for seeing he something, he said something that got aggregated, and I said, I asked him to come on because of the agregation. Here's my view, takes himself really seriously. Yeah. Decide generally don't get along with people who take themselves really seriously because I don't. I try not to take anything seriously when Sodano does it. Oh, yeah. Hates that by the way. Good play it more speaking of plankton. Apparently Mario has done a promo surrounding the dunk. Oh, did you have on your screen? I haven't on my screen here is this is the new Mario Ruis creation based on the LeBron dunks from last night, Steve Mason, John Ireland. This I'm not heard heard this LeBron James, I did it Justice basket is a Laker stolen. Look on a breakaway. Then the first basket of his career is that. Mason and Ireland. And back and forth here up and down the other one. To John. That was great. In Ireland, Hugh them weekdays from noon to three pm on ESPN LA seventeen. That is very well done. Thank you or Kris knows Mario. Wait here comes comes Christopher update. One of my favorite people in the world, Chris Morales. Now, did you hear the morning show this morning where we ask for you to give us thank you because we feel that we have influenced you to make great radio calls like this. So the promos great. Wait for the morning, show version where we do a play by play with you. Okay. But does that mean it just means we're very happy that John has had. I don't wanna use the word step up because Johnson amazing. He leads the show. Yes rightfully yeah, he does. So we are very. I'm just along for the ride. We are very excited that that the the, the passion, the energy that you can hear on that radio call. We enjoy those. You're taking the morning show actively being excited about LeBron scoring his first real basket. Yeah. Literally the only people in the world who think LeBron's first basket is a Laker happened in San Diego our morning. I just wanted to point out by the big morning morning, show guy. I know it's your favorite show. Keyshawn it is now, you know, we obviously we the Netherlands sport show in l. a. Mason in Ireland and they are the number two sport show in Los Angeles. Can you imagine the Armageddon that will happen? Just all the work I have to do if we ever have to change that change makes you think change what that we're the number one show Chris hinting that we will not be the number one show forever. That's not true. You never know. You kidding me. Have a great weekend bliss. Yeah, see, there's Christopher Ellis. You know what he is. He's an agitated. He just tries to agitate you spend sizes in bits. It's not just thing. He educates everybody liked the big fight between me. And George started by Chris? Yeah, but you have to be willing to be agitated. That one got me. I'm never going to take the bait again. Yeah, that's not. You will tomorrow. Yeah, just the next time somebody does anything, hey, don't forget to thirty fifth row Fridays. If you've been listening all week long, there is a question about each day of the show. If you've been listening, you will know, hey, is this true? But good finish your thought. Fifth row seats to the October twenty fifth game versus the Denver Nuggets and autographed basketball chairman's club passes. That's VIP launch where all the stars go plus a super cuts gift card. We will have five questions at two thirty today. If you can answer them, all you will be in the fifth row for a Lakers game. Fifth row Fridays brought to you by super cuts, save time, checking online. Let super cuts get you game ready. This from miles Simmons who covers the Rams Greg's arline today quote, we're good. Gut kicks in, feel good, feel confident. Now I just have to go execute on Sunday. Oh, is that he's back roster? Santos, like leg Tron being in there as a weapon, huge weapon. I will feel much better. I was nervous every Cairo. Santos missed one field goal, Sam thick and missed field goal to the guy before that it was fun. I just thinks her line to great, great, man. Yeah, he's he's like this in the game and really put you. They if the number starts with a five come in and say, fifty, nine yard field goal. I think he's making give it a go. He meet fifty six off the dirty. So raiders. Yup. Coming up. Next jarrow, Maury, general manager of the Houston Rockets wearing a suit isn't just for job interviews anymore. It's a lifestyle and HP the new line of men's suiting only at Saks. Fifth, as p is modern, shooting designed for your active lifestyle. Elevate your student game with HP shop online to find a store near you at Saks Fifth dot com. Hey, what's up? It's a gigantic day LeBron made his Lakers debut last night in spectacular fashion. Lehman brings the ball in the placers of twelve seconds to shoot stolen Brian breakaway in the first basket of his career. Is that top. Is that brings the crowd to its feet, and there's an answer to a trivia question, what brands I bucket a spectacular dunk in the motive centre. Here's Lillard coming the other way with the no. Brian, they're going back and forth here up and down the other one. In the building. In the first quarter blazers, Brian announces his presence with a thirty that was fun. Yeah. Yeah, and the games are much more entertaining. Now you'll you'll see tomorrow night. If you go, you'll see it and, and I know that we're giving away tickets of some some upcoming while we did give away tickets all day yesterday to are the game tomorrow night to really looking forward to it. I'm glad people are. I mean, there were a lot of Laker fans in Portland, but tomorrow night. It'll be like tons of them by the way. The Daryl Morey is gonna join us in fifteen minutes. He says the rockets have a slow bus. He said, our buses slow. They're taking their time. Apparently hope hopefully you're staying. I don't know where this. Yeah. No, I don't know. Probably not. So Daryl's going to join us here in just a couple of minutes. I wanted to duck in this dodgers game six tonight, brewers versus the dodgers in Milwaukee. Got some more nuggets here that are interesting. Facing Wade, Miley tonight memory faced one batter in game? Yeah, big of him. Subterfuge is what it was the off of Wade Miley in terms of the dodgers and their success. Matt camp has two career home runs versus Miley Puig Machado Grondahl in freeze each have a home run against my Lee in their careers and be ready a lot of bullpen tonight because Wade Miley actually Wade Miley give them five hundred. Third, he was that that's the start of the gave them the most innings. Your suggest that that was an anomaly. I mean, he pitched way better in that game. Then he then he pitched all year. I think the dodgers can get to this guy. There's no, they can't get to this guy. I don't know the dodgers have gotten to this point and Greg, you know this, it is last year felt so much easier than this year. I feel like we're up three two. Two and we should be down three to the way that we've been playing. They should be down three two, they came back, they've been behind the whole series. Well, they didn't only start hitting in the seventh inning and beyond. It's so the first five, six innings. They can't get anything across. Then all of a sudden they come back against the bullpen. So yes, it feels that way. But you're basically having another bullpen games and now you've seen all of the mole times three four times gonna be tonight. If you see something like Sewri already been out there three times, you know, Jefferson has been out there three times and you want. Now the Milwaukee bullpen has thrown thirty three and two-thirds innings of in this series, thirty three and two thirds innings. That's an all time record. The first six games of postseason series. They are going at it hard and they just bring arm after arm. The guy I love to see. Is Jeremy Jeffers. They consider him their closer and they got his number guys number and the guy, of course, you dread to see snapping off that crazy fastball from that crazy angle is Josh hater and he got hit in that last game. He gave up to hip. He did give up two hits yet had first and third, and then there was a bad strikeout call and who was it though? He's he's impressive on TV. I'd great seats for that game. He just his fastball is just a joke. I mean he's touching ninety eight ninety nine with that thing. It's a weird angle. It's almost like the Madison Bumgarner angle, which is really, really hard on on left-handers, and that's why I'm not completely in favor of flipping everybody the way the dodgers Madurai now I know they're going to do it, but I'm, I'm not in favor of them flipping. I'd like to see David freeze versus Josh Hader. And if you just he's only at five at bats this year. I mean, he is. He at one point was Mr. October. Okay. Here's the other thing. Remember earlier this week I brought up that Houston who is heavily favored. You picked the Astros the Red Sox and five. They lost in five. I occasionally get something wrong, but here's the thing Roberta Osuna who had had that domestic violence charge got put in in in a tie game, loaded the bases and gave up a grand slam to Jackie Bradley Jr. everybody said that sports karma right l. time today, Google, Josh. Judge hater tweets. And see what comes up earlier this year. Josh Hader got caught with some incredibly offensive. Stuff on his Twitter timeline from a few years ago. He's one of those deals where they caught him from longtime ago, but there's just no, no way to excuse it and no way to walk it back. And yet we've all kind of forgotten about it tonight. Josh haters, gonna pitch at some point with the season on the line. If you believe in sports karma. It could be the Roberto of SUNA his tweets by the way are just, I think he just pull them up. You can't even read them on the air. That's how bad they know even with. I wouldn't even read these on the air with bleeps there so bad. Right. The worst part about it too, is that they, the brewers fans, then cheered him for these tweets after when he finally came back and they're going to boom, Chato kind of stuff. It is funny how you never see a black person getting mauled by a shark because they scared of the water hashtag shark week. Yeah. And that's not that's mild compared to you compared to these other? Yeah. I mean, it's it. He offends people with disabilities. He offends he, he does not. He's not a big fan of gay people in his tweets. He, he's the stuff is racist. It's. Seen racist and homophobic and insane, the expense offensive. There's nothing nothing there, but so it'll be interesting to see if he survives, you know, he's being hailed as the best pitcher on the brewers and kind of their well. Let's I mean, okay, so these tweets are from two thousand and eleven right there from seven years ago. Okay. And what how old tater like twenty two twenty three. I think he's more like twenty four. Greg. Look that up. I tell you be he'd be a teenager. Yeah, he'd be Cager twenty four. So he these when he was seventeen seventeen. Yeah. How. We've talked about this before, but how accountable. Are you at twenty four for what you sent out at seventeen. Well, it depends what you sent out. I think it's pretty clear by those tweets that Josh hate her is is a racist. I mean, it there's no other way about it, and because he was young and dumb, I don't think gives you the excuse senior seventeen now. Now, do I think it should be held against him to the point where he shouldn't be able to pitch baseball should suspend them for those? No, I don't. But he kind of is what we should remember at all times to things about the brewers. One, Josh Hader is racist and homophobic, and Ryan, Braun is an absolute dead cold, cheater. And I think tonight is wind up pay back. Yes, today they go down. All right code. I'm next forty. Daryl Morey the general manager of the Houston Rockets who will be at Staples Center tomorrow night to face LeBron and the Lakers I what is going on heads Friday just got paid. Hopefully you're getting paid right now. Mason Ireland ESPN LA it is a gigantic day in sports Lakers lose their debut of LeBron last night one twenty eight one nineteen in Portland LeBron did go twenty six, twelve and six. They faced the rockets tomorrow night and LCS game number six. Tonight in Milwaukee, dodgers lead the series game three lead the series. Three, two got a chance to win one and go to the World Series Wade Miley versus Hon. Jin REU? Okay. Let me ask you a question about the game. I did last night in Portland at one point. I mentioned the Lakers were over twelve from three. Yup. And oh, I sixteen from beyond the arc to start the game. Okay. It's one of the main. In reasons they lost. They got outscored from beyond the arc by eighteen points. Yes. Okay. Puerto was making the Lakers wore not yes. In game seven of the Western Conference finals last year, right? Houston hosting Golden State? Yep. All right. Remember, Chris, Paul got hurt, but if you beat schooled in state, they, they go to the finals. At one point in that game, the rockets missed twenty seven consecutive three pointers, twenty seven in a row, not as many as the sixteen the Lakers missed last night. They missed share, but I've been more than the lakes at any point if you're over sixteen from three, particularly when you're the Lakers and you were dominating fast-break points, dominating points in the paint. Should you give it up? No, you can't re cannot trade twos for threes. Okay. But when the rockets were, oh, for twenty seven, maybe when they had missed twenty in a row, try something else. They kept shooting, right? Yeah. Gotta keep. Well, shooters gotta shut themselves out of the so you you would say that to to the saying it up to shoot devil's advocate yourself flunking. What if okay, but there's gotta be a point, right? If they were like last night Lakers were for sixteen right? Western Conference. Final rockets over twenty seven, right. Okay. At some point, don't yet just because you're beating your head against the wall, you gotta try something else. Like I actually said, brings Vaean if you're going to shoot them, bring somebody who can make well. I mean, Josh Hart was the one guy who missed them. I last night, right? He was three of five from three and eight of twelve over. All right. Lonzo made one hashtag start heart. Yeah, it just I wonder. I don't know why you wouldn't start heart. He's clearly we can't play clearly your best shooter. Okay. He can't play every minute of every game. You can't play forty eight minutes, correct. Casey p. is a veteran who already started and has the same agent as LeBron why not start Casey p play heart, the majority of the minutes, like what's the ideal amount of minutes you would pick for heart. But thirty six thirty six k stark ACP make sure heart place. Thirty six. You kind of see, you know, you don't lose Casey p because you're not bencher them. Oh, I see. And you you play hard. Is Michael Cooper, right? Keep part of the Lakers championship run. So you don't start Casey p you're going to lose them. No, but I think you you put a dent in his confidence, right? You know he likes and by the way you want heart necessarily maybe out there with Lonzo and Kouzmin and some of these other dudes because LeBron may not be out there all the time. But all these lineups are. Fungible. Yes, I think hard do shirts, correct word, one hundred percent. That one I don't even need to look up really, but heart is your best option to guard you agree? Yes. Just make sure he plays the majority of the minutes there and make sure he plays in the fourth quarter LeBron played the entire fourth quarter. I would have argued it would have been nice. Had heart done it too. They took hard out for Casey p from like, yeah, see, I don't probably the ten minute to the four minute Mark. Why not ride the hot hand? Right? And I think you'll see more of that. Remember this is all fluid LeBron had six turnovers. He's not going to have that every night and they're not gonna shoot seven of thirty from three every night. Yeah, although they they, the defense, they did not defend last night. One particular they didn't offend three pointer. They will never nixed. Outskits can hurt you. Is that the three point line? He's not going to the rim Dunkin on people by, right, right. If Nick staus is he's not going to the free throw. Shooting twenty five free throws. He's not. Marta, Rosen. Just don't let him shoot threes, right? They did let him shoot three's ain't what he makes six of them. Yes, he made six. Six, I got. I got me. I'll look it up. Nick staus gets in the game. Was from three was five of eight. Yes. See, nobody wanted one of eleven. Everybody went to lock them up. Yeah. I mean, he was plus minus plus eighteen had twenty four points. He came into the game averaging four. His career high was twenty four. He tied it last night. That step thing you need to defend against, right. Yeah, you do really well and the other. The other thing is. You saw a number of times LeBron tried to make a play, and his guy just wasn't there. I mean, it's a certain amount of this is kind of it's it's kind of sinking up. I mean, LeBron has to sync up with this group and the only way to do that is in a real game. I mean, there was one at one point LeBron made a pass behind his back and he thought Cousteau was going to go right to the basket. Just passed it to nobody quite react to this. My friend, Dave just texted me, hey, Dave, what's up? Man, Davis guy. He's he's, I've told you about him before he used to be a college official referee. Oh, yeah. Okay. So he says John, the difference is the rockets game is three pointers and three point shooting the Lakers admittedly to not have three point shooters. Why did the Lakers keep shooting three pointers when it is not their game? What has to be their name, but it's not willing to concede that, hey, wait a minute. We were never well, the fed bet on Kouzmin getting better. We bet on Ingram getting better. We bet on Lonzo getting better. We, we bet on heart. Continuing to improve mean that was where the shooting was supposed to come from. Think he asked a fair question because there they were twenty ninth in the league in three point shooting last year twenty-ninth second to last and they went thirty five games right? This year they're our hope is to win fifty correct. When they started over sixteen it was probably a pretty good memory of why they, you know I they were just so good on the fast break. And and again, let me throw these numbers at you. Fast break points Lakers thirty four blazers, twelve points in the paint. Lakers seventy blazers, fifty six. I mean that's really dominant. It is and you know they were plus fourteen in the paint fast-break points. They were plus twenty two. Yet from behind the arc, their minus eighteen. I would've stopped shooting the threes, right, but go, they won't. They won't go twelve for thirty in your right there at the end. Right? You trade a couple of those twos for three Astle pride after the game. Did you guys shoot many threes or did you like the look? She side because I loved him. He was we, most of them were wide open. Yeah, a lot of more open because we just didn't make them. Yeah. So I think they'll shoot, and by the way the rockets can low you into that. Tomorrow night. They're gonna shoot forty, three's right. You start getting into a track, meet with them and everybody jacking up threes. They win. So you gotta keep an eye on it. You gotta play your game here is we've, we've got the starting lineups. Is that what you what you thought? No. All right. Weird, right. Ed is a weird ass lineup, wait, wait a minute freezes leading off Dave and freeze leading off and at first base max Muncie batting second at second base JT's batting third, Machado, fourth Bellinger in centerfield. So they're writing Bellinger because he's kind of figuring it out Chris Taylor who's been great in the series and left plea and Barnes. David freeze batting leadoff. So they're going right left. Right, right left. Right, right, right. It's almost it's subterfuge proof. It is. Well, what happens here too? Is that because freezes leading off, eventually Muncie will move over. I based freeze will leave the game. KiKi will come in and he'll be a leadoff and no Kemp even though he has to know champ against Miley. That's interesting. Well, that means you've got right handed sticks to pinch, hit late in the game. You've still got dosier. And kemp. As right handers that can pinch it when we get to Josh Hader. I'll tell you the most important thing tonight. Score I score I, yeah, the team that scores, I is one almost every. I mean, it's it's the the, it is so disproportionate. If you score I, your odds of winning are just dramatic. There's a gigantic swing. I think it's like twenty four and five. In the postseason this year. And by the way I'm winging that number. So do not text me or do not call me and say, you're wrong. It's around that. Are we allowed to say it's a round. That number mean. Hey, before we get the fast track and we, we may. We must have missed out on Daryl. They must have a release still on the. We'll talk to him next week, but the Bill Orem just tweeted this Bill. Who covers the Lakers athletic? Yes. Casey is with the Lakers second unit in the -scriminate playing alongside coups MMA v. Lonzo and Wagner. Last night. Luke Walton said it's a little early to start adjusting or changing the starting lineup, but today, heart hashtag start heart. Yeah, maybe happening that, you know what I think it is. I think it's the hashtag, well, heart is played his earned it to the MVP the whole summer. Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right. Coming up. Next, we've got fast track. I've got unbelievable stuff in my fast track. 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"Hey thursday. Molly Kerem likes to say. It's Friday eve. There you go. What do you think? Well, she's married to Jalen probably every day is Friday that house X me feel a little bit better about being Thursday. All right. Dodgers win last night there. Now, six and two. They're off to a really really good start rallied from behind for a five three win over the giants last night at Dodger Stadium watching chicken strip. He lived major in another Homer, no Belgium, went two for four with an RBI though, he spat in four thirty eight he's fourteen forty two with five homers and thirteen RBI's chicken strip. Looked great face the minimum through three fell apart a little bit in the fourth gave up three earned runs but settled back down to in two third scoreless for the bullpen scholar. Scot Alexander the wind kenley Jansen the save KiKi hit his third home run of the year. David freeze, two run double in the seventh. Put them ahead. And then Chris Taylor Watson Taylor with a wine. Sue. Jillions? Good things are spreading around the lone dodger locker room. Chris taylor. Outstanding swing down. And then last night kenley came on for the save. I thought he looked a lot better. Greg. Would you think Kenny did look a lot better? He went. He changed up. He was going pitching about ninety to ninety two posted with the other night when he's pitching ninety four and the cutter wasn't moving. He was just trying to get that cutter. This time this time. I think the cutter was moving it was, and that's why he lowered his velocity to get the cutter to move the way, you know, kenley thrown well as be get swings and misses didn't get swings and misses on Wednesday night. But he got him last night how to strike out in the ninth inning and the dodgers off to a really strong six to start. Nice to have some women in this town some winning in this town. So we need Whitten. The win the game of thrones premier was last night. I know. Work. I'm very proud of the fact that nothing has leaked out. Have you seen anything? I just saw a bunch of people dressed up going that guest list must be very very tight. And I'm sure they all took pictures in the right car. No, no what I'm saying. Is the guest list the people that were actually in that screening? Yeah. Must have signed their lives away to actually believe it's an. It's less than a week and a half. I know it's coming fast. Feels like I've been waiting forever at it. Does it feels like it's and like last night, they had dead people showing up for that screening like Ned, Sean bean was I know I saw that. I saw Tyrian Lancaster's dad had exact yeah. Even the everybody was there eaten up and made me wonder called Drago. Was there Jason momoa had become in? We wonder if if some of these guys were not gonna see again on kind of a victory like Caldera goes dead dead giveaway. Trying to bring him back like he he. Yeah. But she ate his heart. No, not his heart someone else's heart. No. I thought she ate Drago. She left to just die in right? She just left him on the ozone. Good combat. She could they could pull a Jon snow back from the dead miracle. Oh, yeah. I mean that's years and years of him being dead in kind of pseudo broth in in in years of the show. It's years and years. But it's only like four years in game of thrones time, isn't it? I I think it's longer than the thrones anything could happen. Yeah. Anyway. But let me kill Drago was laying there were like not alive, but not dead. Exactly. Yeah. Not dead is the key part of that way. Our boss the otter came in. What is it? Oh. Does he suffocated? Oh, she put a pillow over said. That's right. She put him out of his Marietta, dead paralyzed and stuff. He's not dead. He's dead dead dead dead dead. So I back back back back back. He was dead dead dead dead. All right. So jeanie. You're listening to case p in Los Angeles in case, I didn't already do that Jeanie Buss was talking yesterday everywhere except on our show. Why do you think that is John? I don't know. Did we ask why do you think we had? She hasn't visited with us. We didn't ask her. Did anyone ask her? No, greg. Did you ask for genie have nine for gbs on a tour? I know you're right. I will send a text Jeannie, see if she wants to do it. She's been on every podcast in town. This was from the sports business radio. Hoedown is that's the what it call so sports business radio hoedown his little bit about what Jeanie said. We we play we play down. Here's here's one. Now, we have to operate under the rules of the collective bargaining agreement. Which means you can't just go and grab every player that you want. You have to to do things with a salary cap and plan your contracts and the timing and the free agency and budget so that you can put the pieces together. So this will be a an important off season for us in regards to that plan. So there's genie Kepala g went to one. Not sure that I learned anything from that white was she explaining it to an audience that knows nothing about the NBA apparently to talk about the salary, but it's a it's a results driven business. Of course. For example, they're going to sign somebody next year next summer. This summer, and it's just a matter of if it works if it works. They'll get a lot of credit, and if it doesn't work, then they'll get hammered like they're getting hammered. Now, the reason that rob and magic are getting hammered on a daily basis on sports radio and on on the sports business hoedown show and the house is that they're losing. They know there's not a sports business hoedown show there really should be there. It's a results driven business if they somehow signed somebody and that and they get a coach that magically turns this around right then next year, they'll be taken a victory lap. And everybody be talking about how great they are. If not more this. I mean, that's other games played right now. They're who was it. Was it Winston Churchill that says when you're going through hell keep going? Yes. Now, if you're a Laker fan, you just got to put on your has met suit and take crap because they're losing. Yeah. Here's a little more genie whereas tight as any two people any to executives as you started about Magic Johnson, whereas tight as any two people any to executives, and we've got you know, a mission and purpose of what we're trying to do. And we're not done yet. And we we still have more to do. But I think we're going in the right direction. There's only two of you who breaks the tie. I mean in terms of basketball decisions, I will always defer to magic. I mean, his his ability to, you know, he's brought a vision of of the kind of team that you know. You know that we're going to build in the vision for what Lakers basketball will be. And I think you can you can see that. But we still you know, were still building that roster that that will get us there. Seven of the Lakers. Current fourteen players are free agents after this year seven of fourteen when I would be surprised if more of the than the seven or gone they're going to reshape the whole roster. But you know, it's interesting what she said there there is a a portion of the public that is running for Luke to keep the job that was Jeanie in code saying that even if she wants to keep Luke she's not going to stop magic from doing what your acts. So that's why so many people that cover the team have come to conclusion that Luke will probably not be back because magic has never said that he will genie. I think if it was up to her would bring him back, but she is deferring to him on all basket. Decisions. Let's do one more. Here's genie on the sports business media hoedown in particular for me. There was a story that came out this season. And we've had our challenges the season, and it it it kind of made me doubt for second. Some of the people that I was working with and instead of calling the media who were reporting it, I sat down with the people that I work with and had face to face communication and realized that that is what we're dealing with now in this day and age is that the stories come so fast and furious that they try to get you off base, and they get you off from the direction that you're headed, and you've got to have faith in the people that you're working with and that trust and communication and that comes with face. To face time because texting and E mail can lose context and tone, and you know, you need to, you know, look somebody in the eyes and really restore your faith and restore your direction, and and that's important for leadership. Well, the one thing that jumps out at me. There is not actually anything to do with the Lakers. It is the idea that this happened. This week. I was asked if I was going to be somewhere for an event, and I texted back, of course. And of course, was misinterpreted. It was like, of course, I am. How could you possibly even ask that question? That's what I thought. And it's not, of course, I'm going to be there is means. Yes, I'm coming. But a why wouldn't you just right? Yes. I'm coming. I just I just said why do you think I made a mistake by saying? Of course, I do really why. Because it's it's as you're making the person that asked the question feel stupid. Really? Yeah. Of course means I made a commitment. And I'm coming, right? So why did you ask me? So you think honestly, of course, was a mistake. Yeah. When you don't know looking back. I mean that probably how it was interpreted. I don't know who you're talking about that made me if I said to you. Hey, are you going to be there for the shaneco coming to the show tomorrow? And you wrote, of course. I you know, when you wrong, wouldn't you be curious why I asked it? Like what if you wrote that to me? I'd right. Yes. Why? Well, okay. So this was dinner plans. Are you going are you meeting me for dinner tonight? No. Of course, I wrote a course, of course, for dinner. But that's she started about face to face communications. There really is no replacement for that text messages often now, and we live in a world where like I have one person that I deal with that. Whenever I I'll I'll text him and say, hey, do you have time for a phone call and his response will always be no texted, right? And it's if I'm asking if I need to talk to you chances are it's because I want to convey a certain tone or I want to explain something that's not easily explained right protects. But we live in a world. Now, where that's people wanna I know people that only text. I did it pretty much see still only people. The only people I talked to are one, and my mom, those are the people. I don't talk. Oh, and Greg I have to talk to. Every day because there's some rule here at the station that wa- that I have to talk to Greg every day as I'm driving into work. That's rule. No, no. That's your that is my that is my. The those are the only three people I talked to on the phone. Yeah. Otherwise, tax me. It's so tech. But but and then so you can't be surprised if when you text, of course, if the person gets mad course, I'm going to be there. The it. It seems to me that you can lose a lot in in text messaging. If if all you're doing is because and it's the same thing with Twitter Twitter as very little nuance. So if you're if you're with two hundred and forty characters has gotten a little bit more new you, and I are smart asses. So if we communicated specifically to Twitter people on the outside would go well got missing Ireland, really mad at each other. When we wouldn't be at. All right. Would just be like talking on Twitter the way, we talk. Yeah. But so so I understand your point there. Yeah. You still you still have to get in a room with three people. But and here's the thing. I'm as a Laker fan. I'm giving these guys. I mean, they don't get enough credit that they landed LeBrun last year. I can't tell you. How many people told me LeBron will never come to the Lakers? The Lakers are mess. He's not coming here. Why do you keep putting that? But let's be honest. Lebron wanted to be here. Okay. Ron wanted to be here. All they had to do. So can you know through said repeatedly by Brian Windhorst, all they had to do was not screw it up and Ron was coming. So I don't think they should get that much credit for. But what I'm saying is if they delivered LeBron last year, and they somehow deliver another illustrator this year, then they've done what they've said they were going to do from the beginning. What what didn't work out is this team in this roster that they built this year, and they had all these injuries. So the first years throwaway, but they still got three more years to get it right hand afford to throw anyway anymore seasons. You realize actually. Stunning. Number a stunning number. I want to throw at you neck. Okay. And at two thirty we're giving away a four pack of tickets to see a ventures endgame. I got us exclusive screening myself. I got my own movie theater over a regal cinemas at LA live. Not the first time. I've had a movie theater, you can come out watch movie with me and our own ESPN LA private theater. The Steve Mason theater. Grab dinner provided by Carl's junior. They're serving up they knew charbroiled bacon. Truffle Angus burgers before the movie two thirty today. We're giving away a four pack of tickets. Make sure you're here for that. Mason Ireland ESPN LA. People say that when I I have a tendency to sort of sing along with the rejoin music, and apparently on the rejoin music, you can't hear any of it. So it's just my voice going on the internet. Yeah. On the internet. And apparently shade told me the other week that name that tune is the absolute worst thing in the world on the stream or on is that because we can't legally clear the music you hear nothing you hear nothing at all. So HERE IS NUMBER one. Silence. Song number two nothing. Imagine Brian's game. When he plays the game by game. Just go on and on and takes his have you played the lullaby game. I don't think so have I it's it's when he's got this system or the series of lullabies that are based on popular songs. So for example, like he's got the lullaby version of smells like teen spirit. And we sit here, and we try to figure out what song is I think I know it I think I have played that once and I was terrible so hard it is so hard. All right. So actually, let's I I'm going to save the really depressing number for later. Oh, good. Yeah. Let's let's depression, the better. Last night. Confrontation between Adam Jones, and I saw that. Yeah. Which is which is really an interesting story because fans you guys have gotten completely out of control. And but Adam Jones has also had issues with other fans. He has he's always had issues with fans, partly I mean, he's heard racial stuff in his career in Baltimore had racial stuff. So this is the way this went down last night. It was last night in San Diego. He had a San Diego Padre fan ejected for using profanity and urge spectators to keep it light. Instead of crossing the line with foul language. So what happened was somebody in San Diego the nicest happiest place on earth unleashed, a stream of expletives at Adam Jones. He saw exactly who it was pointed them out waited for security. Get get there into pull them out of the stadium. What do you think John is that the right thing to do? I don't know. I didn't hear what. The guy said, but in general, I'm against any Bamford b word. Yeah. If he used any of that, get them out. I mean, there's kids sitting around there. Yeah. I I've never felt like a buying a ticket gives you the right to cuss people out that are on the court. Right. I just don't after the game. He said these fans and sportsmen they're starting to get a little more brazen. I've said it many times, and obviously I've had altercations with fans. My biggest thing is keep the banter, polite. We suck. I struck out. The team's not good. Keep it light. Keep it smart. There's kids in the stadium. But the second you start Cussing me out like I'm a little kid. That's a no no on the street. They'd never do that in the ballpark. When you paid your admission. There's no need for all that stuff. The second. I hear somebody Cussing us out. You're gone. I couldn't care. I could care less that they're gone. That's just how it is. I made a nice play. And just hearing the b word the F word. That's not baseball talk. So he gone. Yeah. I have no Trump. I have no problem with his position on that. To you. No. I actually I wish more players would do it. I wish more players would just point at fan. And then say you're out of here and let security get him because it is true. The fans are getting more brazen. More angry. It's almost like social media has crept into fandom. Like people say nasty stuff on Twitter. And then the next step of that is saying nasty stuff at a ballpark. You can heckle in a very clever way. I'd just talking about this this morning when the story came up. So I was at a Diamondbacks game last year. And I was sitting really in like the good good good seats and like the down low by the Diamondbacks. On-deck circle seats. And there was a guy for some reason decided David Peralta was going to be public enemy number one on so David. Here's the way heckled him David alter was wearing a big chunky necklace. And this guy kept yelling, David. I hope your necklace breaks. I hope your necklace breaks. And then he would say things like now that that to me is harmless. That's been lions heats harmless heckle he'd say, you're an urine average leftfielder, David. You're only average unlike see to me that was clever. It made me laugh, I think at one point David Peralta may have even reacted to it and thought that's really that's really funny and weird and off the wall like you can do stuff like that. But swearing up. A and then there was another one you heard about the Anthony Davis one. I heard Anthony Davis flipped somebody off look somebody off after somebody yelled at him. And the reporter was right. There was basically just. Right, right. Atom FU Anthony Davis God. And that's what made Anthony Davis flip them off. Now, what possesses you to just yell f you Anthony Davis, by the way? I I hope Anthony Davis doesn't get punished at all nine don't think he really shouldn't. The sad thing is video came out of Anthony Davis slip in the guy off without any context. Right. Right. So all you see is Anthony Davis flipping somebody out you you don't actually hear the guy say FU, Anthony Davis. But I mean, what has possessed fans to think that they can do this. What has happened to common courtesy what has happened to kind discourse? And by the way, this goes beyond just this this goes to life. I mean, I went to somebody slid into my on my Instagram. Hey, really last night. It was basically to call me the F word three times in all caps. I thought it was going to be a good. No this terrible thing. No. It was a terrible thing. I never slide into anybody's DM. Oh, I think it's kind of funny when. Nobody slides into your DM's. Yeah. I just don't do it. What are you are you on Instagram? No. But I'm on Twitter, and you can slide into DM's on Twitter. Can you can anybody slide in early? If you if you leave it if you leave your DM's open. Yeah. Okay. 'cause people slide on Instagram funny moping. Yeah. I actually kinda like them. There's most of them are are actually cool. You can feel free to slide into my DM's. I'm like totally cool with that, especially if you've got something clever to let people slide into your DM's. Yes, my time and they're not Showtime butter jiggling Showtime forum Showtime for ailing butter podcasts. And all all of the header is butter is hard dot com. Sheriff all that whatever we want to put a BS, I leave mine open. But that's not sliding into your DM's sliding into your DM's is not just sending somebody at. I mean, why is that not sliding into your DM's is when you're trying to like get with them. Yes. It's more of like a minute. No is yes. Yes. That's slang for like NBA players. Always try and slide into the DMZ of. Porn stars real actresses. Don't slide outta somebody normals. No. I if I send you use that phrase, it generally indicates you're trying to get with them. Right. Oh, why just mean somebody reaches out directly? I don't mean getting with anymore. You're not they're not is that only a sexual kind of slide into the DM. If I sent you a DM on Instagram or on Twitter. I'm just sending you a DM. If if one sends you something he is sliding into your DM. No, no, no. That's not true. If if somebody other than one who has an interest in breaking you in one up sides into your DM's and says, hey. That's what them as serious as your relationship. Let's meet does it only mean that come on Molyneaux. You should know these. I've always thought sliding right now, let's say let's say you had to slide into somebody's DM's K like you have to pick somebody that you would say hand wouldn't mind having a relationship with. No, who's DMZ like minds obvious. But whose like Margot Robbie, okay. Oh robbie. Mine is Leo DiCaprio. Okay. So mine is obviously Kate Beck and sale. But I now think I'm too old for her. You are too old for Kate's apparently. But twenty year old she's dating Pete Davidson right now, Ben before him, she dated a guy younger than hell. Wow. Yeah. So you know, who I would slide into no, Andrea savage. Really? I have is mumps aren't I think she is? So funny. She is fun. I would just want to be friends with their like to go to like a didn't. She's married. I'm married. I just wanted to be friends because she's funny. You know what? I what phrase I hate. Now that I think is just a lotta garbage people are saying whenever who who are these are these people like Greg set Craig came in one day and said people are saying, I'm sorry, isn't funny. Yeah. Well, those people are idiots who is the people. The people was told you end of yours in his multiple front that can't be people that will like Morgan one maternity of people. So if there's two of them, they are those two people. Are idiots. Yeah. Yeah. That that's not Representative of all people. That I talk if they think they're spending sort how they're not somehow injury savage got into the game of thrones from here. I think she's married to an agent is is the deal that was all famous people in there. Yeah. I mean, I know you gotta be oh connection. Like what where's our HBO connection? Do we not have one you could slide into Melia Clark's DM's? No, you should you live in Venice. Oh, that's right. She's my neighbor I found your dog. And by the way, can I have two tickets game of thrones from here. And what did they just show the first episode Cam Suman? Yeah. So so those people still don't know how it end. Correct. They only know what happens a week from Sunday. Yeah. Which is more than we know more and more than I I. Yeah. I don't wanna know. If thing I just wanted to be surprised by the whole thing. All right. You see the sports. I mean nominations came out the national sports. I mean all idea. All right. So was I nominated there. No, national sports. Okay. So the. The. The ten shows that got nominated. They they do outstanding studio show weekly. Okay. And outstanding studio show daily the ten shows that got nominated. We watch all ten really I think it's blatantly obvious who should win. Okay. I'll tell you the nominees neck. Okay. Good Mason and Ireland ESPN LA. Hey, John, the tease was on you. I fry the sports Emmys nominations. So you're going to hear a lot of chosen that you listen to and watch we're going to be very self-congratulatory. And these are on the national television studio shows and talks, it's I we can go deeper if you want, but the two that jumped out at me was outstanding studio show weekly, we an outstanding studio show daily. Now, these are shows all ten of the shows that I know for a fact you watch. Okay, you watch all ten K. But in Greg, I think you watch all time. But what jumped out at me is how easy it is in my opinion to pick the winner. Like, it's not close. Okay. I let's do outstanding studio show weekly got it. I'll give you the nominee day. No, my answer. But go ahead. I'll give you the nominees in. I wanna see if you guys ended up on the same. Yep. In the same place. I am. All right number one college game. Day ESPN, very very solid show. Don't don't give any opinion. Oh, I'm just let me read them. And I think we're all gonna end up on the same K K college game day ESPN football night in America NBC, FOX NFL Sunday on FOX. That's the one with Terry Bradshaw. And how long Michael Strahan inside the NBA on TNT the NFL today on CBS that's the one with boomer and James Brown and all those guys. So Greg you first of those five college Dame gay football night in America, FOX NFL Sunday inside the NBA the NFL today. One of those to me is so much better than the other four. It's a joke. I was going through slowly through. And I was like okay college game day is really good. Okay. Fox Vilson is not bad. And then he said inside the NBA, and I stopped that was it. This is not even it's right total. Gimme it's one of the greatest studio shows of all time, maybe even the best duty if they don't win something is fit. Although I wonder if it's kind of like a rotating trophy where they want it of like the Bob Miller awards sometimes we win at sometimes petrosa money when it all that kind of stuff. Maybe that's what's going on right now. I feel the exact same way about outstanding studio show daily. Okay. Okay. Now, I will give you guys all five the Dan Patrick show on direct TV as jump on ESPN MLB tonight outside the lines and pardon the interruption. So Greg those five Dan, Patrick, the jump MLB tonight outside the lines PTI one of those is so much better than the other four. I think this is not even close was it that way for you. Yes. You waited to the very end to say PTI on purpose. So PTI read them in the order. They were on is the answer. Okay. I listen. To the PTI podcast most days. Yeah. I listened to the podcast of the jump almost every day. Right. I am going to cast a vote for the jump. Okay. To me. It's PTI. And it's not close. It's great. And those are the only two shows a tape are the and PTI. Yeah. And I watch him both the jump has a little tougher needle to thread because it's an hour. Right. He TI's half an hour. Yeah. So PTI always leaves you wanting more. I think Rachel should win. An EMMY for outstanding performance on a daily studio. Yes, she win. Rachel's? Not there. I don't watch. What about what Ramona's doing? It. Don't not roll. We'll watch it when Momo's Vilmorin for Rachel orange, either George won't watch it when Georgia's especially when a mean, fills it. Oh, yeah. Forget me. Forget it mean. None of it. I see Rachel is what makes it show. Great to be outrageous fantastic. And even George Ramona are on there with Rachel, and I'll watch those shows I would like sportscenter be nominated. It's not. But I mean is it. Because they don't think it's as good as these other ones the other four better. It must be a different category. Sportscenter. No. I would vote for sportscenter over PTI and the jump. Yeah. I would vote for sport center's easy to do. Are you? What are you saying about Stanford and Neil Evert, you're saying? One Porsche on on. I watch. I always watched the Neil and Stanford, right? But you're just doing highlights. These other shows are coming up with original ideas in conquest, see. Yeah. Now, I'm a huge Neil fan. That's the thing. But Neilan stand could do highlights like I'm convinced meal, and those guys are so good that they'd literally could walk in one minute before the show and just read it off the prompter knock it out of the park. Right. But it's all pre-prepared highlights. Sure. There isn't a lot like what Rachel's doing? And what the people are doing is. They're they're doing like what we're doing. They're coming up with stuff out of the air and just commenting on it. And that's something that really are. What air takes me is when people say what you do is easy. Well in the nature, you do is ease. They should do it. You know, the the easiest way to shut people up like that is put them in front of an open microphone do podcast. They couldn't see they couldn't do it. Let's see what you got kid-. See what you got as soon as you come back with a better point than their point shutdown. Stop talk. All right. How about this outstanding live sports special? K this is close. PGA championship college football national championship. World Series Red Sox. Dodgers Belmont Stakes or the Super Bowl patriots ramps. Belmont stakes. Out. He will watch that. I I will go were they going for the triple crown this year. I will go I think I would vote for the college football national championship. I think I would vote for the Super Bowl. Yes. Although I didn't watch it on TV. You didn't watch the Super Bowl on TV? I know you're sorry. Yeah. I was at the Super Bowl. So maybe that doesn't count what were the other Super Bowl the World Series? I was at the World Series. So I didn't mind. Jay tour golf, it's never going to be gone either the World Series, or it's say college football national championship, by the way, pretty lucky. I was at two of those things I was at the World Series games, which was not a fun World Series. And at the Super Bowl, you know, what I saw on TMC. Oh, man. Did they not nominate Rachel oh, come on at? She was outstanding sports personality studio host that would be her category. Right. Oh who's in? It Ernie re status Ernie Johnson bobbly, Kurt Manafi, Mike to Rico, Scott van pelt. I'm able to prevent pelt. Why love all those guys? But Rachel should be in. Now. This one's hard at standing sports play by play. Okay. Okay. Mike breen. Yep. Joe buck. Yep. I an eagle Mike Emmerick is unbelievable. He's the best gymnasts. Ancient nancy? I can tell you that much. It's brain for me. But it, but if you've over I think it wouldn't kill you. I think it's brain. I mean, I, you know, I don't see a lot of hockey. So I don't I don't hear doc a lot. But he's a fantastic guy. So I would also go Breen who's after is. Is Joe buck and then who? Did what was I reading play by play play by play green buck? I eagle Mike Emrick gymnast. I might go. I in eagle because he hates the dodgers. Yeah. He's everything. I don't. I don't see Dr Mark doing games because I don't watch a lot hockey. So I would say by the way Breen Breen Mark Jackson. And Jeff Van Gundy may be one of the great broadcast teams of all time. They are so good together. It reminds me of the days of dick and Berg Almaguer and Billy Packer where everybody brought something unique. And here's why they're great. You've done enough TV. Yeah. Where and I still do some TV where you can tell if a producer knows what he's doing right? If when the show starts to go off the rails. Yep. If you hear the producer, go cut, we're out of time stop down. You know, that guy is just worried about the clock. Right. He doesn't care about content. Those guys Mark Jackson, and Jeff Van Gundy will go anywhere, right? The same thing with the TNT studio show. Yeah, they will go anywhere. And then fact about anything they do bits and win the show goes off the rails. They let it go. Right. Which is what makes a great show. All right. This one seems obvious to me ready. Yep. Sports analyst analyst k. Jay Bilas, Chris Collins worth Kirk herbstreet Bill Raftery Tony Romo. John smoltz. Well, John Smoltz almost jumped out the press box window when the dodgers were beating the Braves this year in the he's out. So he's out. Oh, you're not gonna vote the same way. I am on this. You like Rome. I think I do not like Romo. Yes. So. For you. That leaves Bilas Collins worth herbstreet and Raftery. I'd go. I'd actually go Collins worth. Yeah. A Gregor you Romo. Yeah. Romo was fantastic. Okay. Put that buzzer on Collins worth too because it's Collins where conscious boring and by the way, I don't I don't necessarily love any of them. Romo's great. Yeah. Romar can't stand. You don't like him actually calling the correct play. I I don't like that. He gets must Furger hauling the right play when he was wrong in the previous five place. Yeah. You can't come on. Yeah. You're not going to get them. All right. So stop doing. What is it? What your predict things what's your percentage of getting things? Right. Describe what just happened. Not what you think might happen. That's the rule. It's more fun. If he guesses lightning guests on I like to keep track of the number of times, he misses which is a lot. And by the way, speaking of producers who don't let the conversation go where it goes. Greg is yelling break break brand. There you go. We're having a spirited discussion. And all you care about is. All you care. Four minutes back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's still show. No, one cares that you'll never get a job at TNT never or working on any of those good pregame shows act. And that's why I'm here. Okay. So Tom petty came across now, this is fascinating to me. I just tweeted it out Twitter at LA Ireland. I got a tweet from a guy named Robert Korea. Thank you, Robert for listening. He says what are you thinking Kobe Bryant Inc? He sent to both of us. He said done yesterday by Steve butcher. Her would be honored to hear what you guys think. And I clicked on it. Now, that's crazy. If that's real that's crazy. And there's no way this thing can be real. It's got to be Photoshop almost like a painting on the guys Cavs on the guy's calf of Kobe Bryant, and Greg you ever lot of tattoos. You looked at it. And you say what I don't know if it's fully Photoshop, I think that it. There's parts of it that makes it look like it's Photoshop, but I don't I think it's real. I think most of the the Lakers jersey looks completely real looks like it blends into his arm towards the bottom of his leg. I don't know. What that is. I think it's either Slegers forum. Yeah. I think it's forearm. And I think that it blends into his arm towards the bottom. Really, well, the black around the top for the background is obviously real. But I think the there's the only part that makes me wonder is on his neck. It's very you can see the glistening of the of the sweat on his I think that's a little bit too good. If people are starting to respond to it one guy says, it's real some artists can do amazing work. Right. It will cost you. Yeah. No. This is this is not some cheap. And this is this guy. It is his in. It's the artist Instagram page. Steve butcher tat. Right. And this. If it if it is real, and I it would not say this guy. Steve butcher is sick talented. That means he's incredible. And if he wants to give me a free tattoo hit me up at Bergman, Greg. I'm rolling. What what's going on his tattoo on his page? And and he's got other tattoos that that are unbelievable that like he's got one of Robin Williams. I mean, this guy basically has the ability to do tattoos that look like pictures of people. Wow. It's almost like a painting. Yeah. See like, the Paul Pierce one. Looks looks like it's like it's that that's a real tattoo. That absolutely is a real. It's a little bit different than the than the Kobe won the Kobe one is a little bit. And what looks looks almost like believable. Right. The King Kong. Wow. That was awesome. But yeah, that boy put people can do tattoos is so great. You would get more. Teddy's. How many do you? I'm natalie. I have six one two three four or five. Actually, just got a tweet Steve butcher, very popular for realism tattoos. It is very real checkout. His other work on his instrument. And we were just looking at it that really is a crazy man that guy is talented. Yeah. I had his end. So, but makes you made an interesting point you said it would be weird to have another person tattooed onto your body for life. It is on because these tattoos are so good. You. You would never cover them up. I was wondering if I always use the when you're ninety nine rule like when you're ninety nine. What's this tattoo? Gonna look like. At that point. Who cares? You're ninety nine. On insane. Like, let's say you're gonna worry with somebody's thinking about you. When you're seventy or ninety nine of what your tattoo looks like. Yeah. But when you're on your lying on the beach and you've got nineteen tattoos. And you look like Birdman. I don't think it'll look as good when you're older. I mean, you're talking about in your seventies eighties nineties. I, but I mean, even like I mean, it's it's driven. You don't have a face tattooed on. Oh. Would you get a face tattoo, of course? Not absolutely not. But I've been Joe I've been Jones in for another tattoo. Yes. What about what do you know what you would get? Well, I mean, it sounds it. Sounds cheesy. I think but I would get the. My face. I would get the L A the dodgers L A. Yeah. Tattooed on me, which I think is like an all purpose LA. It's dodgers. But it's also just the city of LA. Sure. I would get that tattoo. Greg. What's would you get? I'm gonna get another one. I'm going to get it on my shoulder on my right arm, run out of space. No, no. I got I got a lot of space. The human body is a lot of skin. But on the on my right arm. I'm gonna get a camp that I went to their logo is going to go on the right side of significance of the camp. I went I've been going there since I was eight years old. My dad went there. My brother went there. My kind of camp it's a ranch camp, actually. And it's where most of my values came from is my favorite place in the world. So it's like a personal improvement camp. Well, I mean, it's a it's a range gave you just learn you just learn to like you're like LASSO as anyone, but no, no, he's more like, Don Draper. Is it more like it's a camp for the mind? Right. Like Esselin like where you're going on. I guess. No. It's just a place where you nudist camp. Is there any way are closed only there is skinny dipping as it likes vide- slickers? You know, the movie city slickers like ranchers the riding around and stuff is you go on horses. Like, he's Migo like where the three goes riding along. Yeah. It's the bar seven one seven ranch camp. Trinity up in Terni valley up in up in northern California. And it's an amazing place where you sleep in on platforms, which are basic. Thank you know. Oh, no. It's fantastic. Do I have sheets and do I have like been it's room service of satellite TV show. Gyp shin. Kyle. I'm making my kids summer at what's the thread count, much, the thread, whatever your sleeping bag bread county. Out. Are you a sheet snob, gene? It's not a sheet. Snob hotel snob. A first thing. I do when I get to these like five star hotels we stain as they called it on the front. Tesco. Gimme the good pillows. What's your that guy? And Michael have you seen the video of Michael Michael such germaphobe he will lay sheets down on the floor. So his feet never actual carpet. Who's he's a freak? Yeah. It's he is a Niyazi free. Look. He's over there. I'm a freak. No, he does he put down like classic. No, yet, Sherry sitting in my he cleans everything when we do games in the arenas. He takes towels and puts them under his seat. So he's not actually illness. That's sitting on that. So CD that's an element to his credit to Michael's credit. Very rarely if ever get sick hardly ever get sick. Yeah. So he's doing something. Right. But he is he he he will tell you. He he goes to extraordinary lengths not to come in contact with things inside the hotel room, and he'll like when I feel bad for the maids when they see Michael coming for the cart because he'll take like a whole second set of sheets. Right. And then just lay them all over the place. I hope you leave a good tip. When you check out of these hotel rooms, I never get to leave the tip on the you have to why. No, no, you got to those people make no money. Like, why don't you know, we got to get the fast relief at every day. I five dollars per day. So I've dollars. I sent two nights earlier ten bucks found one ninety five those idea have to because those people make nothing like let me say this like you've read that George Clooney is boycotting. Yeah. I think that's here's why here's why that's dumb. The the Saudi sheikhs don't care. If those hotels are empty or not, right? He pulled that. He's his boycott is affecting is the staff who live. On tips. All right, like the waiters waitresses the housekeepers those people live on tips. And if Clooney's boycott takes hold and all those hotels are empty the staff is the one that gets screwed, and they don't necessarily have the same belief system as these Saudis, do our I'm trying to remember who exactly owns the hotel. I, you know, I thought on mar Andrew Sullivan said something really smart he said that's just virtue signaling. Yeah. I like that term virtue signaling. It's like look on doing something good. When in reality, you're not. And by the way, even you're not hurting the sh the owner, the owner Sheikh of the of I forget, the Sultan of Brunei, right? You're not hurting him by not staying at that hotel. You're hurting the people at work. So it was that Clooney knock it off, dude. All right fast-track coming up next in Ireland ESPN LA.

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Cardinals Winter Warm Up 2021  Michael Hall

Scoops with Danny Mac

11:08 min | 7 months ago

Cardinals Winter Warm Up 2021 Michael Hall

"It is close. It is that time of year. It is the winter warm up. The annual winter warmup of the saint louis cardinals and my guest is the vp of community relations and the executive director of cardinals care. You know his voice. You know the man and that is michael hall. Who's been with the saint. Louis cardinals and cardinals care for a number of years in is always michael. Great to hear your voice. Hopefully you're safe and happy and healthy. How are you and happy new year to you. I'm doing well. Dan happy new year. Thanks for having me on. you bet. it's that time of year. It's the winter warm up. How many years now for you personally with the The saint louis cardinals so going into the season. This'll be my twenty twenty-seventh senior twenty seven years and how many years now four cardinals care. We gotta be coming up late nineties. I'm doing my numbers. I'm not really good with them. Rover two decades. So that's that's a long time. Yeah yes Cardinals care was created in nineteen ninety seven and so I've been fortunate enough to be a part of specifically cardinals. Care being my responsibility since two thousand and eight. Unfortunately we can't congregate together but we still can do this. Virtually and let's get this out there. This is the separate charitable arm of the the franchise. So all the money that's raised is going back into the community for kids. And that's something i think that we we need to realize this isn't going to pay for a second baseman. This is going to pay and help people out. This is going to help and help a lot of kids. And i think sometimes that gets lost in the shuffle. A little bit doesn't it. I think it can I think it can and and know it is important for fans to know that that went to warm up not just this year every year that we've done it as been the biggest fundraiser for cardinals. Care to the teams charitable foundation. And the money raised by cardinals. Care does go back into the community as you mentioned for kids and young people You know i. I think a lot of people are familiar and probably heard me say that you know. We have our flagship program which is redbird rookies. It's a it's a youth baseball and softball program We in people are familiar with the ball fields that are associated with that program. I believe but. I don't know if people know that we we give grants we give over north of one hundred grants each year to other nonprofits other charitable organizations that also support kids in the community and the money raised not only from winter warm up but things that we do throughout the season silent. Auctions and games are fifty fifty Golf tournament. all the of the fundraisers that we do throughout the year go to the charity and the charity puts it back into the community for kids and young people how many Different outlets have been helped by cardinals. Care over the years and how much money has been raised by cardinals care. Wow the number of out there. That's a tough one. They answer Just because of the like. I mentioned There's north of one hundred. Just just talking. The grants each year That that we we distribute But you know over the years. Since since ninety. Seven as i mentioned we've raised over twenty five million dollars and and and put that back out In the community to to help and serve kids. And you know we want to continue to do that. And we've been challenged this year just as everyone has with with the pandemic and we feel that to us when a warm of his tradition and we look forward to martin luther king weekend. That's when it's traditionally taken place. That saturday sunday monday and You know without us being able to have an in person event this year we wanted to try to do the best we could put Some events Some things together that are. Along the winner warmup path. The things that we've done in the past To help us raise money and and we were able to put these virtual experiences together. That fans will be able to take part in over the weekend We'll still have our silent auctions. That will happen over the weekend. And then we we put together some autograph items and we also Started are fifty fifty Back we started at the friday after thanksgiving and that'll run through monday It'll close at three pm on on january the eighteenth and so We wanted to try to incorporate a lot of the things that we would do at arm up an in person event and and just had to shift a little bit of make things virtual so you got this. Going on the fifteenth the sixteenth seventeenth and the eighteenth. So you have that whole weekend going. It's going to be a virtual. You have paid experiences for folks to to join in. It's going to be done virtually but you've got some different themes going on for that weekend. You do have the fifty fifty as you mentioned. You got autographed items. Obviously you're trying to raise a bunch of money so tell our folks in michael hall is my guest What you have going on in trying to make this fine as much as you can sure. So the the newest thing. is the actual virtual experiences. We put together fourteen different experiences. The first one will lead us off on friday evening At six o'clock and it's a it's a two thousand eleven world series reunion and We currently have alan crag and lance berkman common quail and jason motte and david freeze and It's just going to be a conversation with them and just talking about that that championship year that championship run It's you know it's the ten year anniversary of it so we thought that would be a good way to lead into the weekend and then you know throughout the weekend each day we have you know four or five different virtual experiences as well We tried to provide a variety Not just talking baseball and not just talking on field. We wanted to give fans an opportunity to see the personality of our players and and see some of their personal Some of their personal lives and some of their interests so we tried to bring in some different themes and You know all of that is is up on our website if fans wanna go cardinals dot com slash ww. They'll be able to see the list of a virtual experiences and description of them as well as the the price that we ask For that donation. As i mentioned earlier to go to cardinals care. So i'm actually kicking it off for you with that world series reunion. I've got a panel with Nolan gorman matthew for their best friends and now playing pro ball with the cardinals got reunited after the trade for litter There's a panel with broadcasters Going down to matt. Carpenter's ranch virtually There's best dressed got guys from. mlb network. they're going to be part of this. Is well you. You've done a lot of different things to your. You're getting different. People from different genres as part of some of these panels is well aren't you. Yeah we we've tried to to mix it up and You know we appreciate your support and you being a moderator on a three or four of these in on the panel and one of them You know we try to include People that that were that made sense for the the particular theme You know the best one. For instance Is is about flaherty and fowler and baiter and and how they kind of go back and forth with with their their wardrobe. If you will. And it's gonna be moderated by jessica rabbit off who's a glamour magazine editor. Who has saint louis ties. And so you know. We thought that kind of made sense and you know memo be network has has supported winter warm up in the past and they reached out when they knew that we were going virtual and they offered a couple of their On air talent and and franchise and graham zinger to To be apart and to moderate a couple of our of our experiences so You know we wanted to to mix it up and and try to spread things out as much as we can and again try to offer a variety to the fans Because you know there's a lot of interest out there and we're trying to cater to as much people as we possibly can now a lot of fans they love the onstage. Qna's which were three as they wait for autographs which was part of this at a normal winter. Warm what what can you tell us about the autographs and some of the onstage. Things that you're trying to pull off with his two. Yeah so when you mentioned the main stage that that is a very popular part of winter. Warm up As well as their autographs and so from our standpoint it was it was a little bit of a challenge. Obviously with us not being able to to be with the to meet face to face and they have the players here in town and for fans to to go through the lines and see them face to face and get their items signed so What we literally have to do was is sin and ship items to the players for them to sign from their homes or wherever they may be during the offseason. Have them ship them back to us. for us to be able to provide them for the fans that can that can purchase them online now and through the warm up and as far as main stage at a typical warm up. We do have some some input in some qna from from our topic. Our president. Our president of baseball operations are general manager And so we want to try to provide that as well and and what we we plan to do is have some links for some. Qna that Will be recorded with. What's those those gentlemen that fans will be able to click onto you and and just kinda take a look. Take a listen and get some get some of that input. Even though it's not live we're just trying to provide as much content as we can in virtual space with the pandemic that we're all world dealing with so you got a lot of variety you got the fifty fifty got autograph sales. You got different panels Michael hall is my guest so again. What's your best advice for the cardinal fans out there that want to go to the winner warm-up obviously we're not going to have it but we will have virtually what's the best way to find out what's happening in schedules will change and probably be added certain things as we go along which it always does as we get closer to the event. So what's the best advice for those fans that are out there. The best advice. I have is please. Our website cardinals dot com slash w has links and information for all the things that we are offering for. Winter warmup this year he michael. I know it's a major undertaking to pull this thing off. Best of luck raise a lot of money. I know you're doing great things in the community and thanks for joining me. I appreciate it very much. Thank you dan. we appreciate your support. That's michael hall of cardinals care.

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Joe Pfeiffer with Uplifting Cardinals News

Scoops with Danny Mac

20:08 min | 1 year ago

Joe Pfeiffer with Uplifting Cardinals News

"Hit a home run and get pre-approved for your next refinance or home purchase at the home loan expert Dot Com. Enjoy the PODCAST. Welcome into scoops with Danny MAC DOT COM. There should be my conversation with Joe pfeiffer of the Saint Louis Cardinals. We'll get into some. I think maybe uplifting news we could all use that right about now right and What's up lifting sports baseball? And we'll talk about how David freeze is coming back into the fold for the Saint Louis Cardinals whether it be with the fantasy camps or with various dates out the year to get him involved with the organization also talk about what fantasy camp in what cards kids clinics can do for families that We hope we'll still be on at some point this summer. So I think you're going to enjoy my vigil pfeiffer in particular the information and the news concerning David Freeze WanNA remind you. This is presented by hotshot sports bar and grill. And now in this time you know. We need to support our local Companies we need to support our local restaurants and bars in that industry Certainly is being hit. Very very hard hotshots has curbside pickup stations. And they're being staffed by the servers and bartenders from hotshots hopes that their customers their generous regulars can help supplement some of their income until things come back to normal customers can call any hotshots location and place a curbside pickup order and their kitchens will have it hot safe. Ready Within About fifteen to twenty minutes member of their team will safely load the order India vehicle and assist in safely processing payment if it is not able to be made over the phone. Their full menu is available during this time. They're selling package. Beer is well curbside. Delivery services are open daily from eleven pm until nine PM. Moving forward all phone numbers and their full menu can be found at Their website hotshots net dot Com hotshots net dot com support local and Make sure and pick up a lunch or dinner if not both at Hotshot Sports Bar and Grill obviously very very interesting times in the world of sports we'll visit with Joe pfeiffer in some uplifting stories when we come back this is cardinals broadcaster and Chinooks Shopper. Dan McLaughlin Chinooks would like to thank everyone during this difficult time that includes those that are working in the stores as you can imagine. During this time schmucks employees are putting in long hours around the clock to best serve our community so the next time you're in Chinooks tell them thanks and that you appreciate them. Let them know how much we appreciate their efforts because we will all get through this together well. This time. There are well no sports but yet you can still talk about. Sports in the impact is sports and what sports means to all of us. And that's one of the things I want to try to do on. The website is to come up with great stories and inspiring stories. Things that make you feel good in times that are down right now and I have Joe Pfeiffer from the Saint Louis Cardinals with me and Joe has done the kids clinics over the years he's done the fantasy camps cooperstown down in Florida at Busch Stadium. there's so much to talk about. How baseball can bring a community back and Joe is always. I appreciate your time. It's always fun to talk a little baseball even during these times isn't it? It is thanks. Dante appreciate the time and yeah. I've actually heard from a lot of our fantasy campers over the last couple of weeks and they are craving baseball they're throwing in their DVD's of the two thousand eleven world series and they're they're trying to get what they can right now while we all just kind of wait you know. I was thinking about different things to do on the website. Is We all wait and I thought you know one of my favorite things I've done in the last I would say six months is write an article a little piece. I'm not a great writer Joe but I try my best and so the piece though was about Couple of brothers that got together at fantasy camp not that long ago and celebrated the life of their late father and they had a cutout of all things a life sized cutout of their dad at camp. And it's just an emotional story. I will make sure that people can see that on the website if you haven't read it before but tell us a little bit about that because you know that family. Well you know the father I knew about him in the history with the camp and then also his sons coming together and what that what that all meant for them. Just baseball coming together. Encourage anybody to go to your site and read that article from this past January You're talking about the Roseborough family and Dennis says the father who Just recently passed away and Baseball really united that family. Their son Stephen and Andrew and It was really Dennis. Fantasy camp was Dennis's way to really reconnect For lost time with his boys and It was Danny was actually his dying. Wish that Is Boys have this life size cutout of him at fantasy camp literally on his literally? Yeah Yeah Literally. His wish that they go to fantasy camp honor ham remember him in just have a great time playing baseball at the birds on the bat and they did that this. January and it was just a really unique opportunity. Stephen did a great job in one of our morning meetings. Our morning meetings are they're they're very colorful. Should I say entertaining but but it was a moment of just pure authenticity when Stephen sit up and talked about the impact but his dad is had on his life in fact baseball has had on his life that the cardinals. The cardinals families had on their life and to see those two brothers. Play over the course of four days and seven games together and Really you know. Have the cut out of their father with them. Everywhere that they went in and how our alumni we have thirty nine former cardinals at that camp and how those guys embrace that family You know that that's what this is all about The memories that are made through the game of baseball and the connections that are made. That's why everyone's a missing it so much right now so That's what fantasy camp all about is the camaraderie the connection and the family. I kind of think it's an act of God is a talk to the rose boroughs. I was in. There are so many games going on at the time and guys it could be in the clubhouse or on a field or maybe on their phone if they are between games and you know checking in with family or work or whatever the case was and I just happened to be at the game in which one of his sons hits the only home run in camp and I get them rounding third base. I mean how does that happen? Incredible your timing was impeccable. Seem believable left the ballpark in our campus fast January You know with the outfielder ability. Sometimes we have some markers happening. He he ripped it out of the park and those those those guys can play ball. Those Roseborough boys can play ball. Actually Stephen The older brothers in our Kampala Fe and other ballplayers and Yeah your timing was incredible. That was that was on day one day one day one got that home run of of campus. Joe I'm going around is trying to get some guys. You know with the ball going through their legs. Maybe somebody trying to catch a pop up in this guy hits a home run so it's like an act of God pretty special. What is it like you know the fantasy camp not necessarily going down there and getting your uniform and being 'cause I want this to be special for people when they hear It's not just the baseball but it's it's so much. The Lifelong Friendship Centre developed. What are some of the other stories that you've heard and seen developed over the years with these camps? Well I mean I just I just look at data point. As an example days we just celebrated twenty years of camps this January days. Been a part of it for eighteen and he has a such a multitude of relationships and friendships and business partnerships that have come from camp and he coached the same team for the better part of a decade down there And now he plays more roles. A minute assistant commissioner at camp but I mean just just those connections these guys. We've become lifelong friends through this thing. I actually can't imagine my circle of friends at this point in my life without these individuals. And then that's what it's become an and it's not just a camper camper customer to customer thing it's very much Carlos Alumni too camper experience. I mean You know the connection that in two years at Ted Simmons is made with people at this Camp Heartland Coca Cola. Who's our main sponsor? At all of our alumni programming fantasy camps had been their manager the last two years and the connections that in. He knows if he wants to go to a concert in Kansas city he calls Kirchner rush across the state and they hook him up and he's going to that concert. That's kind of the result of this experience so much more. You know a lot of people go into camps thank you. This is my bucket list opportunity. It's a fiftieth birthday gift. It's a father's Day gift Christmas gift and then they keep. They crave it. They come back for more. And it's it's an IT's beyond baseball. It's a result of the relationships in the friendships. I mean you're the connections that people have made with Ozzie. Smith through this camp is he's been a part of the camp now for going on a decade and David Stein in his first two years a camp now with people got to get back with Lance Berkman on a personal level and understand how smart guy he is and he did a hitting instruction session at this camp. That was just unbelievable. Actually Adriaan Chambers video. Flip it on facebook and I think it got thirty thousand views in just lances simplistic approach to heading but you think about that hall of fame. Type Player talking heading for twenty minutes to these guys. you know. Just it's one thing after another And it's the reason people take it off their bucket. Listen I've got to make this an annual thing because it's in very much it's very much same format annually but every year. Everybody comes back and says this was so different. This is better. This is unique. There's more alumni involved now than ever before and that's just GonNa continue continue on. I look forward Danny. The next year are ready to the twenty twenty one year when we celebrate the ten year reunion of our eleven team. And the amount of guys that were engaged with that club including David Freeze Lance Berkman and Jake Westbrook and Chris Carpenter and just to see how those guys are starting to engage on the other side now that they're not current players it's just Especially when it's just a unique way for our fans to connect with our history. I'M GONNA get into that in just a moment. I WANNA go back to the teaching and I am dead serious. I am dead serious when I say this. How does he know Ozzy's coming up on sixty five? I honestly think and I'm dead serious when I say this because I've seen him do it now. Multiple Times with the one on one instruction when he's at shortstop and showing how to feel the ground ball and how he did it in some of the things that maybe you want to do to teach your kids or in this case. Teach the campers and so he starts taking ground balls. I think for one night. You'd be fine with Ozzy in a major league game. As long as it's hit right at him he's GonNa Gobble. That thing up now is the range. They're probably not but it still pretty darn good. I think you get away with it for a game. He's unbelievable I don't disagree with that at all and his arms probably feeling a lot better than nineteen ninety six surgeries. He's incredible and his ability to explain the position illustrate it. It has his hall of fame level and make kind of dumbed down for the rest of us is incredible one of the things that Joe Pfeiffer does my guest is I love this you're tied into the alumni of Saint Louis cardinals not only Doing things like the fantasy camps and whatnot but but JOE is also intimately involved with just about every alumni appearance. And that could be across the street. At ballpark village could be in the cardinals hall of fame and museum. It could be a David freeze night. And that's the guy. WanNa ask you about David. Freeze because I I saw David. I guess it was a bout. I was doing a show at one. Oh One and he popped in because he loves music and all. The stations are kind of clustered in there and we come on the air with us in in so it's been about a month ago. I guess Monday and a half so he hopped on. And I've known David for a long time and I I knew him very well as a player and I absolutely love them and as a person as ballplayer everything he's done for our community that special night in special run that he had in two thousand eleven but the thing that I wanna get into and he's going to have an appearance. Hopefully fingers crossed the ballpark this year. But he has and maybe you can shed some light on this but he really is at peace in my mind with the decision to retire so it's not like he's looking back and going. Oh Man I should have done this or should do this or that. That's number one and number two and most importantly with all the pressure that comes around with being a hometown hero. He seems to be at peace with that and now is embracing it and wants to be more engaged with the cardinals organization. D Get that sense to yeah and I and I I get the sense as accelerated Dan. Because you know in your close friends with record and as as as am I and we've talked about this before from an alumni perspective that it's sometimes it's as much as two year grieving process when a guy leaves the game. Just do it just to that. This was the focal part of your life. Everything revolved around in when David was in town with the dodgers last April I actually went down to say hi to them because I was close with them. Like you were when his current player. We did a lot of cool things together on the on the business side and And I had a request for him that someone had for the off season. He's like he's like Joe whole tight. He's like this is it. This is going to be it for me. So let me know that in April. He's like and I'll connect with the after so I wanted to really honor that space Because I know that not everybody's ready when they when they get out of that uniform. Are they ready to go into some sort of ambassador alumni role so when he announced his retirement officially in October I just sent him attacks and said hey man look forward to connecting with you in your time and I was literally in Florida in Jupiter running our camp in January It was before right for camp started the day before. And he's like I WanNa talk to you today and we had about a thirty or forty five minute call. That was just incredibly refreshing and Just to hear him talk about you know he's like you know. I love my time in La. The dodgers were great to me. I played with for a variety of different teams with Saint Louis as my own. The cardinals are my team. And they're the ones I'm going to engage with on on the alumni side of what you guys do and we've already laid out a lot over the course of the end of this season rolling into twenty twenty one so I'm incredibly excited about his state of mind where he is your point. I think that you know their second child is due in June. So He's Kinda holding tight on anything until they get beyond the birth in and just you know his wife and his children and he just in a great place and honestly I think even accelerated to a place where he is right now this quickly after. He's already announced his retirement. It's just incredibly refreshing and unexcited what it means for cardinals fans in the organization David Moving forward use the McLaughlin here to tell you about the hometown. Automotive family I trust the most the loop US automotive network and you know they are Saint Louis loop. Who's been part of Saint Louis for over seven decades? They're proud to support Saint Louis in the surrounding areas with cars youth. Sports and charitable efforts. Fourteen brands ten locations just visit views dot com. Start shopping today. He just did a podcast. I don't know if you've listened to it with buster Olney and buster now with the game. Shutdown is kinda looking back at the greatest games in in the sport in so he got a hold of David and they did like forty five to fifty minutes with a good. I'd say ninety percent of it on game six and he's going basically Joe Pitch by pitch by pitch get his at bats. Where guys were the bunt plays who is Who's down to the final strike a facing fully? I. I mean it's just it's so cool to listen to them because now you're hearing a guy that's totally at peace and says okay. This not only was life changing for me. But it's been life changing for community and so here's embracing it and I think that's awesome and I can you imagine if there's a night and it will be when it's dedicated to David freeze. What that reception and what that night will be like in Saint Louis. Yeah and I'm hoping it's still August eleven as we planned he's You know coming back for Budweiser Bash and Will be thrown out the first pitch that night and it'd be his first public appearance back it. Busch Stadium in man. I can't even. I can hardly even visualize it as you're even describing game six. You know just emotions and up and down of a baseball game especially with the impact of elimination game. The world series. I mean Dan. The first five innings of that game were atrocious. Remember David Even says that he goes you know I had a ball hit off the top. My head. God's Sakes. Oh Yeah Yeah it. Just shows the beauty of that game that the first five any absolutely terrible and then it ends up in arguably the greatest game in club history. That's just so unique and what other sport can can do that absolutely so with fantasy camps and with the sport right now and sports in general things are on hold. But you do have a camp coming up. I know it's going to be Again at Busch Stadium. You've got one in Cooperstown. Fingers crossed. Might be a little bit tough but then you also think about the things for kids to and I know you're involved with the kids clinics and whatnot but at some point we hope to be talking baseball and getting people back to the ballpark but most importantly getting back to the game general. Yeah definitely looking forward to that In hearing your voice Going cardinals games to bring us back to a sense of normalcy. We'll be a great thing for everyone especially cardinals. Fans and Yeah we're looking forward to delivering on our kids clinic. Scott Terry does an amazing job running our alumni ambassador program and working with all of our alumni the manage our kids clinics were excited Once we can get these underway. Paul Dion is the face of seven of our twelve clinic. Seven our local five or regional. So Paul will be. It's in our local Kids clinics summer is Harrison. Bater was last year so really cool. Unique opportunity for kids aged seven to thirteen there to experience that and then to your point on our Saint Louis Fantasy camp that September. Sixteen to nineteen almost sold out. We've got a handful of spots left bench coach in camper spots for the Saint. Louis Cabinet will be. David freezes first camp is it alumni. So you'll be the face of that camp experience And we play at Saint Louis University for a couple days and then wrap up at Busch Stadium. There's a really cool dinner event at Ballpark village cardinals nation. That'll feature David freeze in a private autograph session. For the campers their special dinner event hearing from David and So I'm really some fun things to look forward to I know it's tough right now. Is We're all of self-isolation in trying to find ways to keep our cells busy and active so but you know on the other side of this thing. We're we've got some fun things to look forward to the alumni side of cardinals baseball. It's well put. Hey Joe thanks be safe to you and your family and we will have baseball before you know it. Thanks so much same Danny best all the cardinals fans out there thank you.

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WWHL @ Home: Golnesa Gharachedaghi & Mike Shouhed

Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen

24:43 min | 1 year ago

WWHL @ Home: Golnesa Gharachedaghi & Mike Shouhed

"Welcome to the Bravo clubhouse for the podcast addition of Watch. What happens live with me? Andy Cohen she kissed him on the lips and he wishes. Mj would keep hers closed. Its watch what happens. Live at home with gold lesson. Mike from Shah's only three. Hey everybody welcome to watch what happens. Live at home. I'm your friend. Andy Cohen with two Shahs who went to Hawaii and one of them almost laid Nima from shots of sunsets. Say Hi to our friends. Gold Netsai and Mike. Hello Hi guys of go nuts you are wearing. What on your head. I'm wearing my you know shower towel. Robe you inspired me last week in your robe and I'm like wearing quarantine. I'm Scott make one. I absolutely love it and Mike. I love your buzz cut. It looks really good yet. Hugh really good. You actually look look like you might have lost a little weight to Actually I have. I've lost some weight up. Been eating my pellets. On bike during long walks my chance to get away just refresh could for you. G G. I know that you're not getting baked because you have a mini. Shah in the oven. But I want to get all the details of your pregnancy with around of its shop. Baby so how are your pregnancy cravings going in quarantine? I'm enough surprisingly. I have not had any pregnancy cravings. But I'm really lucky because this quarantine I have an excuse that my parents are basically staying with me. The corn teed with Lisa. I have a home cooked meal three or four times a day. Which is an amazing. Yeah Hey remind me when you're do by the way. I'm doing a couple of days. I'm like does not raising your under a lot of our executive producer Deirdre is also due in a few weeks. I know that there's extra pressure with being in quarantine and everything that's going on in hospitals. How are you dealing with that mentally and emotionally emotionally? I definitely was not expecting to be in this position. I would say the last two months. Wait a little heavy on me because I've not been able to wear. The interacting with my fans are hot. That you know physical supportive friends being around and knowing that. I can't have all my family this in the hospital. My son was suzy's Lauren. It makes me really sad really sad. Yeah well hang in there. We're also happy for you and we're so excited to be baby. Elisha died on the way. I've always loved the namely lies and Ever since I was little I had a crush on Elijah Woods but also one thing I love about the name Elisha. It sat almost all the religions respect. Who Elisha was and it just meant a lot to me so I love the name will Elisha and baby. Shams being a buddies. I don't see why not I mean. Shams never did anything to me. I don't see why not if one day in the distant future. Your son asked to watch you on the show. Will you let him? It would have to be very distant future. Not so he can understand. You Know Mama was a bit of a nutcase at some point in her life only season seven eight Alexander you to smoke pot once you have. The baby is wealthy are nowhere near the presence of my child but I will be. Because for me. Cannabis is my medicine and after so many years of Ra in so many different types of medication. That was one thing. That led me into remission. So I definitely will be consuming Yes by Switching gears you seem so intent on settling down with Paulina. This seems like the real deal but I have questions about your relationship. Had she watched previous seasons of Shah's prior to meeting you know. Has She watched them now? She watches now but I don't think he's gone back to watch the show. Actually when I started dating she didn't have cable on any of her. Tv's are you nervous about her watching those. No no because it made me who I am today and I want to publicly apologize because I I saw. I watched the cliff. And do I talked to Jessica I feel about that? I want to publicly apologize to a place and thank God. It went through those steps in my life because the journey to become the man I am. Today has the most poorly. I aim ED is. Have you been open with her about being unfaithful and past relationships? We all make mistakes. We've discussed it. Yup Okay has she met Jessica. No there's no reason to just she got along with your parents. Does she know that? My parents are very fond of her. We've we've been together on on many occasions It's just a different feeling when he could sit down and speak the same language understand. The religion sound the culture. We live together just an understanding Do Your parents. She's the one it seems like all your friends. Do they know that I'm very serious about her And you know they just want me to be happy at the end of the day. That's their biggest concern. How soon in dating did you meet her kids? I met NEELA her youngest Like eight or nine months after we were dating. And it's been it's been over a year now right almost two almost two. How are you navigating potentially becoming a stepfather that daunting to you? I hate that term stepfather It's just I'm going to be a father figure in their life. I'm going to be a positive male role model. I love them to death. I treat them as if they're my own and they give me purpose anti. Ju You gotTa See Mike. He's like he's all about these kids. I think he's about the kids more than about Alina to be honest with. He's all about the candidates for the amazing. I Love Them. I Love Them. I love them so much. So if you had to predict. When do you think you'll get married? That's that's that's to be determined because once you've been married and divorced it's not right. There's no rush to get married. It's just an understanding in our have. We have agreed on the ship. I'm going to be with her for the rest of my life and then I told it when I'm gone. She could do what she wants but until she leaves me to rest well go NASA as a former be in a past life. I'm sure you'll appreciate that. Our viewers are buzzing with questions and hit me. With Your Best Shot Samantha. Our email Mike Now that you can see the real conversation between MGM Paolina do you think Paolina twisted? Mj's words around? Obviously some editing went into play right but she she was. She was obviously upset. And when you're upset and you hear something sometimes you blow it out of proportion but typically you gotTa essentially this. She's new to the group. I took away for her birthday and leave her loan with my best friend. And then my best friend tries to sabotage my relationship by talking negatively about Iranian men for father is Persian. Her best friends that are at the on the trip with their all. Iranian. How dare you say something like that very? You'll culture go nuts. Rose G texted and wants to know where you stand with. Nima now and she wants you to rate the kiss on a scale from one to ten fast. It's not Oh oh man. Let's just say I had to be junk in order to do it again. Okay did he use a lot of his new teeth? It was all teeth and he was like Mr Ed kind of just came towards me. They gave him a little peanut butter. And it's kind of a little bit. Oh my God Charlie. I texted and said do you think. Mj Is only being nice to resume because she wanted him to drop. The charges against Tommy shall charges against Tommy hundred percent percent. Mike what do you think I think it's? It's part of the the reason but after thirty years of friendship I think they both realize what they did was wrong. May want to be back at a place where they could be friends so you have to extend an olive branch at some point. So I think that's what she was trying to do. Go nuts omid. Age wants to know when the last time you've spoken to her seen shallow and has he commented on your pregnancy. I haven't seen or spoken to him since after my surgery. When I lost the first pregnancy we ran into each other St Louis into Jenner. He made a million apologies and the moved past everything that we had gone through and that was sort of it. I started noticing a little bit of a pass behavior. Siwa Blocking and just leaving it is this so I don't know how he feels about me being net and I'm not concerned okay. You guys just had a funny conversation during the break go. Nessa was telling my mic was complemented goal. That's his lips. He thinks she should keep them this size and go now. So you said what? The pregnancies on my looks up massively. You said you were really worried about. What the pregnancy was going to do to your face. Because you can't have any objections I live on fellers alison more than most people. Should I get it done faster than most people should? So I was so scared I mean I do. I do see a couple cases but Phillips massive did let me ask you. This did seeing it naturally. Make you think well. Maybe I'm doing two module. Maybe I don't need it now because I know that the big on top of what's already in there so I think that at Bravo reunions. I'm usually the one asking the shady questions but tonight I'm doing a little outsourcing. It's time for re yet and I've asked my guests to come up with the questions they'd like to see asked at the reunion here. We go what do you to think that I is the number one thing that I should ask Raza ladies I go ahead One thing that I wanted resita asked the one question. I seen or the one comment I see. Everybody directing is that. He's only with me now because I'm Jay is not in his life anymore and even though I know that we have established and really built our friendship which were still building every day. I like to know that if he has rekindled his friendship with MJ. Will it? Change our dynamic. Because I'm not friends from J. K. Oh that's interesting. What about you Mike? Why don't you blame Adam for what has transpired wise? All she's this reunion baby. We need get some questions. What do you think what do you think I should ask? Mercedes gold NASA child. Let me read it off my paper. If you could reflect on the past in line of all the ways you've gone out of your way to hurt or diminish other people when we finally take full accountability for your actions and then change your actual behavior or approach with your friends. Because I like in the moment. She's good at Saint. I'm sorry give me a hug. And you know those little little Bellagio waterworks. Shell comes out. But then it's like repeat behavior so not the Bellagio waterworks. Mike what do you think I should ask? What do you think I should ask? I'm Jay Mike Yes. Why would you come from Paulina in Hawaii knowing? It's a birthday and you were my guest in Hawaii. And she's done this before with Jessica when I was with her. The first time they match like naming Yesica or is it Jessica and like just little things just at this little gaps. I'm wondering when is this going to end? What are you going to stop doing that Gee What do you think I should ask? Nima much thought into but it's doesn't need much just WANNA now. Why are you so damned thirsty for attention I do? Mike what do you think should ask? Nestle I have a couple of good questions for Gomez Actually What was the criteria about your baby? Dad that made you pick hand of the people that donated sperm. That's interesting what exotic. I'd love to know right now. I'm wow now well Andy. I'm sure you know when you go into John Process. It's so like intimate details and each person's files about forty seven fifty pages long after doing the whole cycle analysis with the company that they knew exactly who I am. What I'm looking for defile started coming in. I above all you know it was I wanted. You know healthy healthy line of family and know diseases and illnesses I was preferably hoping towards darker features darker skin darker is and then it just went into personality. But you know he'd Matt all that criteria which is really hard to find pristine genetics. That's great. That's Great. Gee What do you think I should ask Mike at the reunion? So the one thing I really want Mike to be ost is like a lot of people have rumors or speculations for why. He hasn't postal. Paulina and I don't care about that. Stock let's run out to the side. I just want to know regardless of being married to her. Not can you just have a baby with her? My heart's sake per se. What is she going to ask? I know you WanNa know not just because this is telling such an unconventional Dane time in life that you don't need to be married child you experienced marriage now. Would you just have a kid with her? You know it's possible all right okay. Well listen if being an island brought on. Tonight's wild behavior from the. Shah's what happens when they're housebound it's time for never have. I ever hunkered down addition. Okay you too. I'm GonNa read off things. You may have done while in Quarantine Mike. If you've done it super dribble nothing from okay. Never have I ever run out of toilet paper and had to get created by Senate or you sip if you have done it okay. Never have I ever gone three days without shower. Not a chance. Never ever spent all days in pajamas. Never have I ever spent an entire day in the news never ever stocked random person from my past on social media. I might never have. I ever explored weird. New Poured Online porn guys. Come on you even at home. You say you're not a porn guy. Mike I'm not it's weird. I'm more of an imagination. Goes I suppose corn best for you. See someone hot. And they'll think about you. Okay I okay never have ever contemplated entire future quarantine right. Of course all right. Thanks for playing for both of you. John D. wants to know how you reacted when you saw out of admitting to saying something about Naked Jenga do you think validates anyone. I think you know autumn. You know that this is a very normal thing for him is to send silly tax set our sexual nature. I haven't seen anyone take it the way that that. Mj friend has taken so far. Everyone else takes it lightly just laughs at offer brushes. He decided to take it to a whole different level so hearing admit to it it was like okay. Not a big deal to me. Okay Go now Franchesca be wants to know if you think. Mj was being sincere when she was taking care of you after the Music Festival. I do not think I'm Joe is being sincere. I know how. Mj operates. That's Mike. Mike was not out. That's that's how her genius were manipulation. She shows that side of herself. And then as soon as you lower your guards all of a sudden like Mike said those little boom japs come out of nowhere and you're like Oh God you thinking too deep into it. I think she was genuinely worried about you that day. But her tendencies are to throw little daggers. She gets it from from her lineage. But she's not a bad person. She just does bad things once in a while. Okay our time for a segment called watch. What's happening this weekend? Where I cap off the week with a content recommendation to carry you in quarantine tonight my pick for you is game six of the twenty eleven world series Texas Rangers versus Saint. Louis cardinals you can watch the whole thing. I'm you to. Here's the deal. This is regarded as one of the greatest most exciting games of all time. Whether you're seeing it for the first time we're watching it is a roller coaster ride With a standout performance fi hometown. St Louis Boy David freeze which makes it all the sweeter it is eleven innings long and there may never be another time when you have five hours to spare again so dig in and enjoy. I WanNa thank and Mike for being here. We will see you Sunday night. Thanks guys hey everybody. It's the after show with Mike and Goal Nessa. You know Mike S. rule wants to know where your friendship stands with Raza and M J today. I'm I'm still very good friends with both of them. I think if anyone can broker a peace deal between these two. It's me and I'm going to try my hardest to Mendoza benzes Okay and with an G G N with With MJ Chu. Yeah both of them off my friends where low communists threatened to kick my ass and some other things to me because I called his wife a liar. But that's what David Arch tested for both of you. Where do you both stand with Ali? And what do you think about the restraining order? He just filed against Raza so he hired a restraining order of showing the water. What do you think my? I can't stand him? I couldn't stand him when I first met him. You don't want to talk about thirsty if if you say nemesis thirsty which is not disguise parched in the middle of a desert Just gasping for some Wasi this I if he's training or coordinator. He was coming to filming every day. If he could. So how would? How scared could he have been? He waits a year to file Tweets him Hashtag your name in your hands all from like eight years ago backing to be brought onto a reality show of yours. So it's like this kid is just. Oh Oh all right back. Et wants to know if you think destinies hands are totally cleaner was she acting shady GDP. That's good mud. Tell us tell us. I believe that destiny had a completely different perspective of where that whole situation was gonna go and find acquired interface and then she felt really regretful. Go Nuts J Garcia eight thirty. Wants to know if you ensure our cool again. You're not sorry to hear that Bravo mostly tweeted. Wants to know how to you to feel being the voices of reason this season for one. That's a great question I don't even think I was the voice of reason at all. I think I tried to mind my own business as much as possible. This season and not allow them to get me sucked into the trauma at all. Sow just feels refreshing to watch. Tv NC myself trying to like job. right exactly. I thanks to you without his life on that. Note last question Nessa. Ab- Suzy di wants to know. How if at all has your Becoming a mother to be changed your relationship with your sister any progress there. Yeah it's interesting. I'm actually sitting in my sister's house right now on her computer. Because I don't have a computer. Don't laugh at me. I don't have a computer some sitting in our house right now. She's been really helpful. She practically put my whole nursery together on her own so she shaking our head right now next to me so it's gotten a lot better. Okay I want to thank both of you for doing this. And so we are wishing you all the best. We can't wait to meet the baby. Think next time going to be honest. Wow thank you guys so much great to see you. Thank you day. Candy. Lots of kisses. Thanks for listening to the PODCAST. Everybody hope you enjoyed the show. Remember new episodes live Monday through Friday at four? Pm Eastern time? Make sure you're subscribed to have a great rusty or night.

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SCOREBOARD: We Have A Winner

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

21:37 min | 3 years ago

SCOREBOARD: We Have A Winner

"As someone who lives in breeze college football. I can promise you that this season will bring the mayhem. You'll feel it during huge wins and heartbreaking losses on Dame winning. Dr. Drives it in post game. Fender bender. This season teaming up with AllState highlight these key moments. The let fans know mayhem can show up on game day. Imagine what can happen the rest of the week for expert advice. Call your local agent today. Baseball tonight scoreboard BUSTER only, and this is the baseball tonight scoreboard for Monday Tober twenty nine two thousand eighteen coming up. The Red Sox jump on top early in game five of the World Series. Is they look back in role to another title. Let's get to it. The first page. What in eventful weekend in this World Series? The Red Sox playing in Los Angeles on Friday nights after eighteen innings five hundred sixty pitches. Seven hours and twenty minutes. This is what happened in the bottom of the eighth inning. Appear swinging high at center. I've only X Muncie. We said it about four hours ago that he's really do. Well, better late than never a must-win game. The dodgers did it done. Jan schoeman. Chris singleton with that call on ESPN radio and his max, Muncie rounded, the base and Nathan Foley who was working seventh inning of relief for the Red Sox. Walked off the field Red Sox. Teammates were waiting him patting them on the back essentially thanking for is incredible effort in that game. And right after that moment, Alex Cora coal team meeting and the Red Sox clubhouse, basically because he knew that the narrative would be that. This was a crushing loss and he wanted to thank his players for their effort congratulate them turn the moments, and he mentioned all these efforts in this game. And the other players on the team gave him a standing ovation to some of the Red Sox players really felt like that that turned the moment for Boston. But in Saturday's game they fell behind four to nothing Richaud was terrific for the top of the seventh inning. He had to come out of the game. Ryan Madson was in the game Mitch Moreland pinch it for the Red Sox. That should come shut. I run a second pitch. Swing and a high fly ball right field week. Not even not even moving rate is way back into the bleachers in right for a three run Homer. They're the Red Sox are back within Iran. And then in the top of the eighth inning. Steve Pierce, the plate kenley Jansen the dodgers on the mound. And here's the pitch. Swing and a high dry the left center field. This has some carry on it. And this game is time. Steve Pearce with a homerun off. Jason Pierce is race around the basis. Pointing at the first base dugout hamper the second night in a row kenley Jansen so renders a game tying home run. Going into this game dodgers record when having a lead of four runs or more in two thousand eighteen fifty four and zero that would change after Rafael Devers, gotta hit to give the Red Sox lead. And then Steve Pierce came to the plate. Again, would be pretty big he connects ear or wanted a fastball. Lied right center field. Trouble. It's down at the fence Denver's home, that's home, bad intead, d home. Re rod double Boston and blown it openly today to form. And so the Red Sox would win game for to take a three game to one lead. And you could hear the voice of my longtime colleague, Dan Schulman there. He had a case of laryngitis after that eighteen any game. Josh they called in reliever right in the middle World Series. We didn't Sean be doing from the east coast to the west coast to fill in for Dan. Yeah. No. I mean, a lot of people are going to talk about what Nathan evolve he did in this World Series. I go ahead and say that Dan Schulman's performance in that inning game was probably slightly more admirable. Yeah. And I it's funny. You say that because I told that today is left. I said you're like all the on this team. And if he was like of all, the we'll Shelby was like Kirk Gibson stepping into the big paint shed in game five and he was at the microphone for this. In the top of the first inning her Sean flying wing and a high fly all that one drill state. Our way back there. In the first inning of game. Five in the Red Sox had jumped out to to nothing lead. Wow. He snapped spied with Carlos families rounding third then they're going crazy. Boston dugout first base side to nothing Red Sox that off Clayton Kershaw. The dodgers ace who started game five David price. Started game five for the Red Sox which was something of a surprise after game. Four after the Red Sox came back to win that game. Alex Cora was in the interview room. He talked to reporters for awhile. And then over shoulder on the way out he said, oh, by the way prices starting game five not Chris sale. So the question was how long David price pitch early on. It. Didn't look so good shifts feet lifts link and delivers swigging high fly. All right field. Martinez. Going back turning. Freeze touchable raises. His right. This does he circle. Voiding dugout and a first bit for David price leaves the park over the right field. Wall gets to two one. In one of the most famous games in World Series history game six of two thousand eleven Dave David freeze had a triple any had a home run as the cardinals came back to beat the Texas Rangers on the way to a World Series victory. So we hit some home run in the first. And then in the third inning. He came to the plate again. Swag and high fly. All right field. Martinez back does he see it? He lost it. Tober take the bouncer law. Breeze around second threes racing prepared safely. JD martinez. Lost the ball. David freeze a home run and a triple in game five it was still two to one in the top of the six. Anyone Mookie Betts came to the plate to that point? He had thirteen straight hitless at bats before the game. Alex Cora told us in our meeting with them. Look, I think best is gonna do something today. Well, this is what happened in the top of the six. Here's to swing and a high apply ball left field on its back there. Touch them. All. Blasted the bleachers in left field. The Red Sox at Ron and Alex porous premonition comes true. The whole three one. Yeah. Mochi beds hadn't done a lot in this World Series. Neither had JD Martinez. Who would come to the plate in the top of the seventh the one one swag? Hi fly ball well-struck centerfield Hernandez back at the track. Jetsetter field. JD martinez. The Red Sox at another. And it's four one. Meanwhile, David price was rolling. He settled in. Here's price in the bottom of the seventh and the pitch swing a slow roller back to the mound. Frontside the mount by price. Lips? The first David price gets one two three. He has been tremendous here. Tonight rice has now set down the last fourteen in a row. So Josh at that point major league baseball came around. They were collecting MVP ballots the ballot that are booth turned in was for David price. What do you think about that? I mean, I'm not going to yell at you. It was certainly a worthy selection. But I once the game ended. I I knew that Steve Pearce was was going to get the MVP and shame on me for not even thinking of David price. But to me it was Steve Pearson. It wasn't really even that close. Okay. I've just say David price pinch started. And he had a great before you had a great performance. And he write it a lot of wrongs over the past couple of years. But I thought Steve beers. I thought that was that was the right call for. Yeah. And I knew he was going to get the MVP after what happened in the top of the eight years one three with the home Homer. The along swing and a high fly ball in left field as he have another on its way. We'll talk again. Homered in the I e homers in the eight his second blast the night more insurance for the Red Sox. They lead it five one. How many big bits that guy? He's got three home runs in less than twenty four hours. And there were no counter-punches from the Los Angeles. Dodgers Joe Kelly threw the ball. Great in the eighth inning. Then in the ninth Alex Cora turn the ball over to Chris sale Craig kimbrel. Head thrown in game. Three thrown game. Four before the game. Alex said he didn't know if he would use kimbrel. He said in the right circumstance he would use Chris sale. And he did which is why sale was on the mound for this saying looking looks at he's ready. Turds kicks buyers. Red Sox baseball. They have water. At a celebration begins. Chris sale. And the dog pile starts third base side of the pitcher's mound. Chime in the last fifteen years the Red Sox are World Series champions. This is what it sounded. Like w e the Red Sox flagship station. T fires twang. The Red Sox won the world championship. The Boston Red Sox beat the Los Angeles Dodgers five that one. They win the World Series games to one and the Red Sox become the first team and the twenty first century with four world championships. Can you? Wave. Joke is dig Leone with that call on W E Kyle soppe sent along these notes for David price. Last three postseason starts three. No nineteen innings. Just three earned runs and nineteen strikeout. Steve peers the last two games four for eight three homers and seven RBI right after the game. Tim Kirk spoke with David price. The Red Sox are world champions. How does that sound? Came here. You're going to have an opportunity to to get to this point every year. And to finally get here to come out on. This is. Amount. A loss for words right now. This is. Very special individually, your postseason began with doubts and finished with three tremendous starts in the postseason. Explain that journey through this season for you. Started off rough game game against the Yankees game game to Astros. The way I planned it to go. Even though we came out on top and. The last three. That's what I expected myself. So I was I was good to be able to do that. What did steep? Here's me to this team this year, but especially in the World Series. I feel like I'm one of the guys that has kept him in the alias for his entire career started at South Carolina whenever he hit a home run onto the softball field. My freshman year. That train rakes man. We we all on his back. So that was he's awesome. And St Pierre spoke with Tim Kirch in right after that as you were jumping on the pile. What is going through your mind as world champion? Always the greatest us all about right here. We celebrate. This is this magical with magical season. And what a great way to go out. You're on a non contender this year. He got traded to the Red Sox. And now you've done this in the postseason. Explain your journey this year baseball the funny game. He's never know. What's going to happen? No, that's great teammates and aside but coming over here. To be built to be part of something this special. You know, it's it's an art as dream come true. How would you describe what David price did in this post-season? But especially tonight what we spec out. He's our horse. And you know, we love what he's on the mound. We back this guy. He's a grinder competitor. And he did a great job this whole series. It was awesome speed last thing. How do you? Explain this. Tremendous power these last two games from you. Especially notice trying to leave it on the field. Good pitches, hit, you know, big hits times, and he'll be able to win the World Series because that's awesome. Steve. Thank you. So the Red Sox went through the trophy presentation in as that ceremony ended. Alex core of the Red Sox manager was coming off the podium who was looking to intercept him for ESPN radio. And he saw his daughter Camilla teenage daughter Camilla, she was in tears, and that's when I caught up with Alice give listen, and Alex is standing here with a trophy with his daughter, Alex. How cool is this for you? You work for the whole season. And to see come through. I don't even have words. You know, I'm I'm in shock. Honestly, we're very consistent from the get go for its training with an outstanding job to prepare for this. There was a plan in place. We took care of the pitchers, and then we were able to just go in and up Tober. And this is the result. You got at the trope championship trophy. Come off the stage your daughter's here in tears had they make it feel when you saw her. I mean, she's she's the most important person in my life. I'm very proud of her. She she lays on their pitch. It's kind of like, Dave and twenty. She bays his stat. She's outstanding woman told she's proud of her dad, but I'm proud of her in her life is perfect. But she she makes life where worth I love her, Alex. How do you feel about how your player responded to you? Seri-? I'm telling first of all they're very good. They bought into the concept. They didn't outstanding job throughout the season getting the pieces together. And now, we're the world champs last one for you. How about David price tonight? I'll sound. I'm so happy for him to find not only has a manager. But as a person. People doubted him, but he came out on top. I'm so proud of David. Dodgers manager. Dave Roberts evaluated Kershaw on price. I thought he had really good stuff. I did. There were a couple of mistakes in there with the fastball Pierce JD the ball that just didn't get there. And the Mookie slider just sitting there, and that's a good club over there. Very good club a great club. So when he did make a mistake they hit out of the ballpark. And you gotta give credit to David price over there. He pitch a heck of a ballgame. And couldn't put his together couldn't get baserunners and really stress at all. So it was pretty straightforward. But I can't say enough about what our guys did. And unfortunately, we can short again this year. And Dave Roberts, of course, manage the dodgers the World Series the last two years, and he said he expects to be in the World Series again in two thousand nineteen baseball. So when predictable you got to give yourself a chance to get to the postseason. And once you get there, you just gotta be playing your best baseball. And so that you look back, and you got appreciate the talent the team that you're playing against. I don't think we played our best, but part of it, and you got a lot lot of it is you gotta give credit to the opponent. And we had a lot of time to think about this one. But again springs, it'd be round the corner. And like I said I expect to be back here next year. Spring is around the corner, but Clayton Kershaw has to make a decision in the next seventy two hours about whether or not to opt out of his contract. He spoke to reporters after the game. Okay. You know? I know the future questions are obviously coming for myself. I don't want to take away from tonight, obviously. And what everybody's feeling and never wanna put the focus just on me or anything like that. This was a tough one for tonight. It really was. Myself personally, you know, it was it was tough David pick a great game. And I got out pitched and we lost the game. You know, I've got I got three days now to think about all that stuff before before anything happens. And so it'll be an eventful three days for me. And. Try to figure it out. David price went into the interview room, and he was asked about his reputation as a good teammate. And what that means to him. Teamates speak. So highly what does it mean to you to be a great team? A lot. This is this is a game. We get to play. It's it's the relationship that you make while you do this while you play this game. That's what makes his game. So special. Silence, of course, because David price was weeping. And he had to wipe his eyes with towel that he had Josh Red Sox fan. You know, David price ups and downs in his time with the team. What'd you think? Seeing that. No, as I said earlier BUSTER, I mean, the the guy right at a lot of wrongs that had taken place over the last couple of years. I mean, not only on the field. But off the field. He had seemed very prickly in recent years and anybody who follows sports knows that when you start getting prickly with the Boston media things don't typically turn out well for you. And so there was really kind of a, you know, a a relationship that wasn't great between David and the fans, but man what he's done the last two series has been really really special really good to watch. And he's certainly redeemed himself in a lot of people's eyes including my own and Chris singleton talked about David price after game five outstanding performance by him on short respite for a guy who wasn't a postseason pitcher a few weeks ago. Now of a sudden, I mean, he's. Finishing? He'll that clinching game of the World Series to make Boston the chance. And you mentioned him being prickly. Josh after they win the World Series. He tweeted out hashtag, I hold the cards now and his conversations with reporters he mentioned that he said you guys have been doing what you've been doing for while I hold the cards now in the conversation moving forward. After the game west gate, Las Vegas released. Its odds the Red Sox and the Astros were both listed as six to one favorites to win the two thousand nineteen World Series. And over the weekend. Reports emerged that the Mets will announce on Tuesday that Brody van wagon eight player agent will be the next general manager for the franchise. Thanks for listening to baseball tonight scoreboard shirted. Also, check out the baseball tonight podcast. Tim Kirk chin will join me discuss the epic weekend in this World Series. We play one more numbers game with Sarah Lang's. Todd Radim joins us to decide. Our weekly quiz trivia champion. Thanks for listening and have a great day everybody. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight scoreboard. And be sure to download all podcasts, including the baseball tonight podcast ESPN dot com slash pod center. The baseball tonight scoreboard.

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Mason and Ireland (HR 2)

Mason & Ireland

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Mason and Ireland (HR 2)

"All right. ESPN LA, Mason, and Ireland. We have got our first annual I guess it's now it's the first annual Ireland poker invitational Saturday, June the fifteenth week from Saturday at the commerce casino. The this is the day before Father's Day fifteenth. Right. Yup. And the cool thing is that if you knock out me or if you knock out, Ireland you win a five hundred dollar bounty. And we are giving away the slots at our tables, right? So we're going to give away nine right now nine spots. Eight seven seven seven ten ESPN, and we're going to wait nine spots tomorrow. Yup. Okay. So. And for people who wanna play in the poker tournament again day before Father's Day Hyun fifteenth eleven AM and a tough tournament to get into, if you wanna if you if you can't call now and you don't wanna would would all you can do is text poker, two four zero seven zero five. Right. That's the only other ways you only way to get in. Yup. Okay. So eight seven seven seven ten ESPN eight seven seven seven ten three seven seven six. And here's we're gonna different game for tomorrow. But here's the game we're going to use to give it away today. Mason. And I have a list of nine movies that have to do with gambling. That's the only thing we're going to tell you. We are allowed to give away a three word clue yet to help you get the movie you get it. You're in miss it. You're out will start with art in Placentia. Art. How are you are going, great, John? How you guys doing? Excellent. Okay. Art. Again, what we need out of you is the name of a movie and the movie yesterday with gambling. And here's your three were this is for a spot at my table. Okay. Okay. Damon. Rutgers boom boom. You got it. All right. You're in my. Okay. So my vice will be to wait for all three words because I never know I was going to say to Goldman Malkovich poker. Ochre. Right. So line one, Greg is in art in Placentia. All right. Mace, you have a movie for John in. Woodland hills. Hey, on John you there. Yes, sir. Okay. John here you go. Your clue is. Deniro. Patchy. Enough volvo. You're an okay. So both those guys are, so it's not too hard. Yep. Jeffrey in Lakewood is up next, Geoffrey. You there. Okay man looking for the name of a movie here. It is your clue. Von Fabbro Vegas. Your veto von Fabra in Vegas. We need an answer three to one arm, man. Yeah. We're not giving people Google time Anthony, Anthony in west LA. He anthony. Hey, I know it von Favreau Vegas. Yeah. Is it made? No, they may all have been in that. But that's not the one we're looking for Marcus in Torrance. Hey market. Sure on ESPN LA, high fell John. Hey, marcus. What's a movie? We're looking for von Fabbro. Vegas is winger. Swingers is the one you're in man. All right. Man markets, you'll get a spot on my table. All right, here's another spot at Mesa stable going up for grabs this one to Daniel in Lancaster. Hey, daniel. I think this one's kinda tough. But I'll, I'll go forward here Newman crews billiards. No, so close. No cruise wasn't in the hustler. All right. Terrance in Hermosa beach terrace. Did you hear the clues? I did not all right. Here you go. Mace give it to them Newman. Crews billiards. Oh, it's not the hustler, it's Newman. Chris sequel to the hustler. I come on. Terrence. Three two one year out. Sorry. He, he knew he knew Ellen in Newbury park. Hey, allen. Yes, sir. Did you hear the clues? I did okay? Name of a movie Newman. Crews billiards. That's. Catch. All right. Bryan. Tough one in Granada hills. Hey Brian, how you doing? Here we go. Newman crews billiards was it the color of money? Yes. There is Brian way ago. Thank you. All right, man. You're in your at Mason's table. Right. So we do so, so far masive give each way to spots. Right. Correct. Okay. So you're listening to Caspian Los Angeles. Okay. So next up is Giovanni in LA. Hey, Giovanni Fahrenheit, here's your here's your clue for a seat at my table at the poker tournament. You ready, ready? All right. Clooney pit Damon. Ocean's eleven very good Giovanni here in man. Bring your book. All right. You're in you're in the tournament. Okay. So then we'll go to Louis in Lakewood for a spot at Mason stable. Hey, louis. Hey, how's it going? All right, man. Here's, here's yours Vegas Tyson. Tiger. Turn your radio down. All right. Did you hear the clues Vegas hyphen? Ty Tyson tiger. Oh, thank over. Yeah. There you go. All right. So so we've got each God two spots left. Yup. To give away are actually. No, not only three left. Okay. So we have three we'll give away three more spots today, and then we'll give away the other sides of our table tomorrow. Yes. Okay. So next up is Robert in Pasadena. Hey, robert. Robert are you. You sound very serious, like okay here you. Again, the name of a movie that has to do with gambling. Okay. Ooh. This is difficult. Okay. Badie. I'll tell you what. Bady. B. A. T. T Y. Okay. Okay. Start Vegas Vegas start thought at START bady start Vegas. Yes, they go man, Robert ain't gonna get that. You're like okay, so you're, you're in. And we're going to Mesa's table. All right. As Raya in fun, Tanna. Hey, you there. All right, man. All right. Let's get this we go. Black SOX scandal. Ayman Al boy as you're in. Okay. And we got one spot to give away and then we'll give away nine more tomorrow. We've gone away, eight today, this will probably be the hardest one so. And in. So let's let's see it. I don't want to give any hints. Okay. Let's go to Eddie and Ontario. Hey, eddie. All right. Here's your clue. Redford newman. Seventies. Yeah. Three two one. Mike in Glendale. Hey, mike. Mike going once going twice Jake. You got them plotted up. Sounds like he's not potted up. All right. All right. Mike. Sorry. Mike. Let's go to Devon in chino. Hey, devon. Yeah. All right. Redford newman. I'll give you a different. Third word heist, Redford Newman, heist. Older movie. Yeah. The sting. Yes. Devon way to go. He pulled it out of the hat. All right, Joe, so Devon, you're in, I'll put you on hold. And that's the nine spots for today. Nine more tomorrow. Excellent. Okay. So ninety you guys are in and nine more, you being tomorrow, you won't have to pay the entry fee. And if you knock Mason riot, somebody. Of these winters, today, and tomorrow is going to get a five hundred dollar bounty. And if they get really lucky, they could get a thousand I intend to win my table. The the one thing that, that happens if these poker tournaments is doing know what the rebuy situation is no, I have not heard anything. Right. So we should find that out because it's free. It's free entry. So I don't know. No, I don't think there's a rebuy. It's everybody gets your stack. And then you're and then that's it. Okay, because I can go rebuy crazy. At some of these me, too, that, that completely changes the dynamics now we have to be more disciplined. Yeah. But. We have to play very tight. Yeah. We should check with Tommy and do that. Hey, we got a second. The dodgers made it look easy again last night playing again right now. But last night when when nine the nothing nine to nothing name give up. A run again. No rea- went seven innings allowed three hits no walks and threw shutout baseball Yemi Garcia cleaned, it up with Scott Alexander and they win nine nothing there twenty four games. Over five hundred twenty four games over five hundred. They have the best record in baseball. They're ten and a half games up in their division. So here's here's where I'm going with this. The division is not going to be there. They're going to win the division their tenant yet. Ten enough. How dumb would it be to go to a six man rotation. Put stripling in there. I mean, I think it's totally fine to cut everybody's innings back a little bit. Right. They did it for a stretch last year. I think it makes sense. You go to six minutes just use fake the L and kind of in essence, go to six I think you may do fake deal injured list load management is really what it is. It's load management just like it is in the NBA free. It's coli Leonard. Yeah. What I what I find really entertaining. Is that there's a promo that runs with George and George said is anybody? Else here mad at the dodgers heard this promo about what it, it's just like a random wildly is anybody else here mad at the dodgers and always think to myself. No, no, nobody knows says you may have that wrong, George, why would you be mad at the Dutch sedan just cream? Jason mike. It was it was from some time ago. Is anybody else here mad at the dodgers? Well, the only thing you can be mad at him about is that the games are on TV. The. Other than that. There's nothing else mad that can you complain about? I just mad still I said that over a year ago. So was one out in twenty nine or whatever. Right. Like it was then I believe is promo. It's been running for that long pulled out. Morale is hasn't taken out the promo because he's busy doing morning show. He's doing right heckling. Yeah. Which by the way when I was in the kitchen just now and you guys doing your game. I heard him under his breath say they're using my ding and their game. This thing. That is a universal thing. Yeah. He's, he's complaining that you are using his using this thing for years. Doot? Chris grab that grab I've been using this thing for year. Chris tasting I was listening to the morning show. Yeah. It's like. Chris guys on our show. Just leave in the middle of the show with no explanation. You know that we're locked in for four. I know you will you have a crew we have Greg. Times J J when the rights to this thing, it's argue it's not. We were hearing before you. We were here before they were here, our ding for fifteen years, you use the ding every day, every single day. Yeah. Tied we use that in the buzzer buzzer to we created our own when we disagreed called the rice double. Thing, Chris, you're going to think I'm kidding about this. I heard Keyshawn say on your show yesterday. Yeah. They, he if you, if you gave them a couple of months, yes, thinks he could beat you engulf rice swear to God I will bet right now a thousand dollars on you. If you have you had our bosses if you play key in golf, I will caddy for you. And I will bet a thousand dollars on Morales whatever the she Sean. Caddy forma Keyshawn is, is out of his mind. This is exactly what is attitude was when he was on dancing with the stars say, that's true. No. I said I sent him. I go key. I not that you can't do well in that, but you know that you Rick FOX's on there. He was practicing like four hours a day. You're on the NFL countdown crew. You've, you've opened like five Pinera's, I think, at the time he was planning a wedding. Right. You don't have time to dance with stars. He goes man. I'm so competitive all own that have you played say you'll be the first one I played I I've seen him play. Okay. Yeah. He will destroy key really destroy him. What did he say you needed to to play? No, he said, if we started now a year from now he'd be able to actually he said, like in two months, he said in two months, but it too much just show shootout. Twenty twenty was Ireland versus Travis again. And Chris versus Keyshawn. He said he would beat me. There's zero channels with me, and then I said, and this was the key line. And you know how competitive key is. I looked at him. And I said, I can be with one arm tied behind my back. And by the way, I would still bet on you. Thank you. And I saw that snap. Oh, yeah. Track out about it after the show like this is a real thing now. Although everybody says, golf is so hard, I hit that shot the other day. I thought you hit a what thirty five yards to the right. I play by hit mine. Two hundred thirty five yards into the fairway. Right. And that's of worry totally I'm totally understand. But I actually think the games easier than ever. No, it's really hunting or is it really well and the other thing seems these they don't play very often. I've played a few times, and it's really and it's very. From shoot. I don't I nine holes. It's directly relatable, to how many beers, you've had time you're playing. Yeah. Just make Christie, like everybody, who's out. Serious. I will bet actual real dollars on you. Now we've got a real play for the ding play today in Ireland could play bed. Travis already beat me onus, dang, this the ding Dong, this day, that is show the. That I have that like an early purgatory for you boys. You know, why not this moment to remind you the morning show? Six am. Travis tells even showing this week. He's been here all week, but he'll be out there. It's like you set that up perfect. No, but he he's passed Mason. Oh, yeah. I didn't think Mason mix day. No, no is like John Mason. Elsie to wiz, z Macy's like car, Bologne, Kebir del only. I've only missed nine cow. Rougier Elsie has missed nine in may easily. You're Cal Ripken compared compared to him. Yes. Z week. Which is Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. That's a foils eweek. Okay, man. You'll be on the. Great gig. Chris actual real text from one Ben Lyons. Okay. I will bet the rest of my salary at ESPN for the rest of my life. Morales. Beats Keyshawn Morales says, orange pants, tell me everything I need to know only a good player would wear those like that. The money is pouring in Chris morale, I want to get my mind mythical money. Whatever I have left is on Morales every time nine thousand. Yeah. Whatever I have left spring, shootout twenty twenty is getting set ready and kiss yawns knocking apply himself as he. No, he he's, he's just going to bed and saying he's going to treat it. Like he treated the, the marquee race. He's so competitive that he thinks that if he just puts his mind to it, he will will himself to win. But that's the opposite of golf. If you try and do that you'll play word I forget who won the marquee race. I think he technically key one keeshonden. Hype is reason, like he was arguing that he like leaned into a tape Marcellus leaned into it. That's what I see in the video that keys foot crosses the line before any part of Marquette. Yeah. We had we the video broke it down and keys you drag it down and keep the reader film on that. She was three Margaritas in. Yes. Yes. Marshmallows was like training with Gatorade, and like warming up stretching. Yeah. Cory's there he had a coach drink three Margaritas in ran and beat him any ourselves. I don't know. Now. He's making a lot of money. We did me yesterday. We talked on Twitter. I wish he would come back to do some radio afternoon show. Yeah. Yeah. Afternoon show. Let's go. This is a weak point right now. Don't. Let's start picking on mine. We all we all know where the weak point is it starts early in the morning. Hackel. Jekyll? He's Jekyll Jekyll. Yeah. Rogers heckle heckle inject back on tomorrow morning at six ten and why do you put the broadcaster voice on when you do the promo. It's the walkout. It's the proper. What did they call? It TV John. It's like the scene change. I don't know what you're talking. And he did a lot of TV is now idea. Yeah. I think you always sound. Address, by the way, coming up in twenty minutes BUSTER, only in there's a couple of things we get into it BUSTER, including this unbelievable statement by rob Manfred yesterday that he will not put netting up down the lines as he needs more Tiet is somehow what die rob absolutely tone, deaf, and shameful for the big question in the NBA. At least today is will Klay Thompson play. Here's what he said yesterday. Doing thing I can't be out there. But it's all on their hands and there's any pain. That'd be a no go just because of the position, we're in could be a longer series. So there's no point in trying to go out there every aggravated and potentially keep myself out of the whole entire finals. Instead of just one game. So, like I Soviet gametime decision, I really want to be out there big decisions. Yeah. So I think if it's if it's left up to Klay he'll play. Yes. If you made this point earlier, if the team looks at the big picture and says, look, we really can afford to lose this game, but we can. Can't afford to lose clay. If he were to reiterate it that could screws up for the rest of the series, right? If that's the case roll the dice sit clay, and maybe get clay and Katie back on Friday. Right. And if you fall behind two one, it's what what game to bought. You was a little rope. Yep. And my guess is that clay probably will say, I wanna play and the warriors will say it's not worth it. Right. We have boogie. We have Steph. We have good Dala. We didn't need you in the fourth quarter. We didn't have you or Durant in the fourth writer and we won in Toronto. Yeah. So my guess is that at some point the finals Tippett's six. Yep. I think we go to the pre game at five on ESPN LA. I think when we hit that pre-game. Steve Kerr talks, the media around four thirty four fifteen four thirty, I think, when he meets with the media, he is likely to have some type of an announcement. Yeah. He may say Claes out there warming up, and we're going to see, but if I'm the if I'm the team got to be careful the, the risk is more than the reward and you might be able to win without him, by the way, Will Smith rookie catcher for the dodgers, two run home run in the top of the third dodgers lead to nothing to my ADA on the mound for the dodgers, and he looks great five strikeouts in two innings and in ten minutes, we got BUSTER, only coming up. Yeah. And hinge in review through another scoreless seven innings know we've been talking about how he's going to start in the all star game. Now you have to start talking about him as a potential science. Absolutely. He's now nine and one his his ERA that just leaps off the pay. Yeah. He's got the best run of anybody in baseball since the start of. Of last season. So this is a long period of dominance for him. And last night, this is a perfect example of how the dodgers are winning seven of nine dodgers hitters with at least one hit last night. Cory Seager starting to look like Cory Seager again. He was two for five with two doubles and two RBI's Bellinger, RBI, triple KiKi, two for five solo Homer. That's his tenth David freeze you face a left-hander David freeze goes out there, two for five with two doubles and two RBI's dodgers now forty three and nineteen twenty four games over five hundred. How about this today is June fifth. Okay, since may tenth Buehler has any area of two point two five that's eighth in the National League since the tenth of may, while my ADA, one point nine six in the National League Richhill, one point, oh, eight third in the National League and Kintu to my eight zero point five zero. Number one, four of the top eight yards as in the nationally in the last month all start for the dodgers. They are. They are an absolute juggernaut. And by the way, remember, all the debates about, you know, should've kept tweet and all that stuff Puig. I just looked this morning is batting to ten for the reds. I think he's pressing really hard because he's an contractor. I don't wish to guy, you know, any any ill will, but they are much better served by having Alex for do go out there every day and having Cody Bellinger, in right field way gold glove caliber, when he did last night so early in the game. They they, but okay. If it was a slow dribbler in front of the plate, one of the other review goes and picks it up and throws wild. It goes down the line into right field Bellinger, who's backing up. Throw picks up the ball and guns the guy out at second base, which I think is his seventh outfield assists and we're in the beginning of June. It's and we're in the beginning of June. He's got eight. I mean he is you can't run on him. No can't pitch to him. He's become the best player in the National League over the past two months. Yep. And the heavy favorite to win, you know where you you mentioned. We're used nine in one area and the season is one point three five. It's crazy. One point three five. It's crazy. And, you know, he's an, it's, it's with no disrespect to Clayton Kershaw review would start game one like he did last year in the postseason. And I have this Donut this feels like a team that's going to the World Series. I let's stretch it out. Yep. Over the last twenty seven games. Okay. You take Jacob degrom who won the saying ward last year. Yup. And hinge on review degrom Ziara over those twenty seven games. So this is all last year and so far this year. Yep. Is two point three three really good. Yup. Reuse is one point six six that's just insane. He's the best pitcher in the league. Yup. And it's not just this year. It's he was pitching like this last year. It's a long period of dominance for him and boy with that rotation. They just need to add a couple of bullpen pieces at the deadline, maybe maybe just one. And by the way now and they need one of these other guys to pop. And now, you know, the with the MLB draft over it means that, Dallas Kyko consigned, fathering, kimbro, consign, probably today that I wouldn't be surprised that we get new. We'll, we'll talk to, but we got BUSTER, only coming up next. We'll talk to BUSTER about that, about this netting issue. There's a whole bunch of stuff going on Mason, and Ireland ES. ESPN LA, ESPN, LA macer in Ireland. Let's see whenever we have BUSTER, only on it's brought to you by Rex real estate. Learn why thousands or demanding more from their real estate agent and choosing Rex to buy or sell a home. Visit Rex homes dot com. That's our E X homes dot com. Dodgers up to nothing by the way, they are in the top of the four thinning can tomato has looked incredibly sharp now for the dodgers here and we're used to that the dodgers starting pitching. Always look sharp joining us right now is BUSTER, only BUSTER. How are you, man? I'm doing great. How are you guys doing? It's easy. Our team never loses BUSTER. They win every game by seven or eight runs and they're, they're, they're starting pitcher ERA is like less than one. It's like watching it Diamondbacks game last night and Cody Bellinger, hit the ball straight away center to run scored. You're like, okay. Stop the fight. It's over. Yeah. I mean they they are just absolutely dominant. And, you know, I it's, it's certainly the best dodger team that I've seen during this whole run that they've had since Andrew Friedman took over. All right. So we've got a bunch of stuff we want to get with you. And the and one thing that, that is not a good look for baseball is the situation with the netting. I was surprised that rob Manfred the Commissioner said yesterday. He does not expect teams to make changes to the protective netting around ballparks during the season. Although he says that they'll talk about in the off season. Bus are soon as that little girl got hurt and Houston. I thought this is a no brainer. Extend the nets up to the foul pole. What am I missing? I think the fact that because I think generally speaking, folks, you know, look at rob Manfred. Well, it's the baseball Commissioner. And he's all powerful. He's not guys. He's like he's like, the president of the confederate states of America. He basically works for thirty separate teams. They're his boss is in. He can't he doesn't have the power to tell all these individual owners what to do behind the scenes the last time when they extended the netting beyond the dugouts rob was very passionate from what I heard from teams what I heard from the Commissioner's office calling them saying, look, this is something we should do. But, you know, one by one by one they lent across the finish line and they got it done. And I think that's eventually what's going to happen here because anybody who saw that video last week in the reaction from the players knows that there's going to be a big push for change here. But I just think it's going to come slowly because there'd be some teams that might be resistant to the idea. But BUSTER, if something happens now, one of these parks, zask look for let me, let me follow up on something. You just said, what's the argument when you say resistant to the idea, what's the argument to not extend? The nets. Well they're you know, they're certainly are fans and you guys anytime you bring up the topic on Twitter, you'll get the responses, and I think some of them are sort of caveman responses just pay attention to the game. Stop looking at your phone. I've been means if you put netting down the foul lines, I won't have access to autograph baseball chances to talk to players foul balls. All those things. And I just think that there is, you know, a core people in baseball who believe. Well, that's the way it's always been. But look, here's the reality of it, too. I mean, besides trying to do the right thing as each team begins to extend netting down to the foul lines. And I think it's inevitable. It's going to happen. It means that the teams that don't become. They are suddenly in a much more vulnerable legal situation. That's what I'm saying. I mean, isn't there clear? Right. Because very clear with public documents look all these teams may change because they're aware that people could be hurt. And you guys didn't do it. And that's why it will eventually happen. Yeah. Yeah. Even now I think the, the liability is up on teams for not for not doing it. All right. Let's talk the major league baseball draft is over. That means it's time for Craig kimbrel in Dallas kaikal to be able to sign their contracts. I have I've described the Kimbrell gambit which I don't expect to happen. But the dodgers would add kimbrel to their bullpen probably unrealistic. But where's it gonna land? Yet, it's amazing because I mean, we all thought that there was a chance that once we got into past the draft and they're no longer tied to draft pick compensation that they would sign. But here's the thing you still keep hearing from teams that they feel like that, you know, the, the, the respective negotiating camps. These players are just simply unrealistic given the the concerns about the individual players. My guess is we sit here today that Craig kimbrel winds up with the Minnesota Twins who have a chance to win. They'd be one of the teams that would probably would make sense for them to consider Craig kimbrel on a multi year deal and a Dallas kaikal, you know, an educated, guess, is that eventually, it will work out, something with the Yankees, I think the Yankees comfort level is a pro rated deal equivalent to what he would have got into qualifying offer a one year contract, and I just don't think there are a lot of teams that view these guys being rock-solid absolute one hundred percent certain solutions. And that's why it's been so slow. Slow BUSTER, only is our guest on ESPN BUSTER. I'm trying to remember. Did you have Yankees Red Sox this past Sunday? We did. Yes. Okay. So in that game Clint Frazier that that was the game where he had trouble on defense, right? He had the three defensive mistakes my goodness. You're nice. Okay. So, but what I wanted to get to was, and I don't think you're asked to go into the locker room every time you do Sunday night baseball. But I know you've made a career of going into locker rooms Frazier duct the media, and obviously his, his play was a major part of that game. The Yankees ended up losing eight to five he was asked yesterday. If he regrets, decking, the media, and he said, quote, no. I don't regret it. And to be fair. I don't think anyone in explanation because it's not a rule that I have to speak, Aaron booed disagreed with Erin thinks he should go out there and face the music. What's your thoughts on that on, on Frazier kinda ducked out the back door? I I've seen I've seen it both ways I've seen guys do that. And I've seen guys faced the music you feel strongly. Either way about it. Yeah. And the reason why you were being nice because that game by Clint Frazier was literally, the worst game ever seen it outfielder have. Defensively he was. He just made mistake after mistake look when I you know, in the times, I've covered teams I never cared personally, whether or not a guy talk, my feeling was, hey, it's your choice. Not my feeling was, however, that if you're a player and you choose not to talk that don't whine about what's in the coverage because you chose not to participate. Now, I will tell you, I feel like that. Eight is really much more important to in the teams that I covered two teammates about whether or not a guy talked in a situation like that because they're feeling is look, if you don't talk to the media about your mistakes, that means we have to answer one hundred percent. Right. And you need to be accountable, and so many times might time covering teams I have, especially involved a young player like Clint Frazier. I'd have veteran players kind of walk up to me. They did he talk to you guys. Tell me talk to you guys and they were checking up on it. And I think. That's what why Aaron Boone said what he said that there's a feeling in that clubhouse look. This is a professional organization where we sell tickets. The public will get a lot of coverage in your professional responsibility to be accountable for mistakes. You make players managers Carolina. More about it than I do. And so two follow up on what you just said BUSTER. Here's what Aaron Boone said he said part of being a big league player and certainly part of playing here. We went our guys to always respond when you play a specific role in a game. That's part of being a pro part of being a big league ball player and part of being a New York Yankee, and of course BUSTER Aaron played for the Yankees. And he knows this, he played with jeeter. And you know jeeter didn't always say much, but he very rarely ducked out. I can't ever remember him ducking out. Yeah. Never ducked out in David Cone. You know, one of the stores that some of the Yankee teams I covered he would tell players look to just go out there and say you stunk and go out and say you stink. There's no other question that they can ask. It was on me. I you know, I blew it. I was awful. I'm terrible. And then he's feeling wasn't that point. What else do the writers gonna ask, and that's just part of it. Hey, let's talk real quick about the dodgers in the bullpen looking ahead towards the trade deadline. Some of the guys that would potentially be available to them. Kirby Yates Will Smith. Andrew cash ner. Do you have a sense for who who would the best fit be for the dodgers? Well, one thing to remember, it's interesting because as we sit here, first week of June three of the six divisions and baseball are basically decided the American League central the twins double digit lead, the, the Houston Astros, double digit lead in the American League West, the dodgers a double digit lead. So if you're one of those three teams, you're probably not going to talk about anybody who's just going to help you this year because let's face it, if you give up resources to go after a guy who's a free agent in the fall that. As you're basically just paying for postseason debt doesn't make sense. So I'm gonna give you guys some names of guys who are going to be under contract beyond this your Ken Giles. The Blue Jays. Yeah. He would be terrific, then Felipe Vasquez. The pirates a tremendous lever who's under a great team friendly contract. The dodgers would have to pay heavily form. But this guy is a left handed with wipeout stuff, Brad handed the Indians, just got traded to Cleveland last year. Cleveland's out of the race. They're probably going to be open to talking about him. And Sean Doolittle of the Washington nationals the strategy being you add guys, not only gonna help you this year, but will help you next year. There's no point in folk singing, upgrading your team merely for this year because of the commanding position they are in the standing. All right. Interesting stuff. Hey buster. Thank you. Thanks buster. We appreciate it. We'll see you next week. All right, guys. I'll say hi to you for sad. Clint Frazier for you. Yeah. Please do. Yeah. That was weird Frazier in BUSTER, hit the nail on the head there to the problem is when you when you make a bonehead play in any sports football baseball basketball, if you were who is the punt returner for the Ramsey fumble punts in the playoffs. Yeah. I mean he has to talk because if he doesn't then everyone else gets asked did fair Cooper kill. You got any dry, if he says, it's on me guys. I just I've had Vero Cooper said I've, I've never had to fumbles inning game. I, I can't believe it happened. But now I gotta live with it, you know, blah, blah, blah. But busters right. The, the, the problem with duck and out the back door and not talking. Yep. Is that you, then you put your teammates in the position to have to talk for you? That's not really fair. All right. That's coming up top of the hour. Yeah. Faster coming up the catch. Ahead of weird feeling about today, gave up an infield single just a minute ago. That was your weird failing. I thought I thought it felt he looks he looks fantastic. And I had had a feeling, but he gave up his first hit dodger still lead to nothing. Mason in Ireland, ESPN life are former producer, Amanda doing the rum commercials. Apparently she sampled that herself. She did he went to the actual Hawaiian place. She also made sure everybody sampled it at the Gulf trashy threw a bottle on me. I know that I love it because she does a slight Hawaiian accent of what she has none. She's from El Toro, go law. Straight from Cohen. March counting. There's a there's a mandate. All right. So this is actually interesting. Lamar Odom has got a brand new book out, I've, I've read some excerpts from this book, it, it's called darkness to light a memoir in the book. He talks about how important. Kobe Bryant has been to him own tremendously. And he's like one of the people that I didn't really ahead really like I just started thinking about this. Like I didn't want to offend people like him that put the work in on me, you know what I'm saying, like what, but I was just trying to just tell the truth. So hopefully I didn't hopefully you can just still being the same. He always did he respond to because couples now I know he probably going to read it. Yeah. Yeah. Photographic memory. But I mean it is what it is. A radio show called the sway. Okay. So Lamar has had a really interesting life. Was raised basically by his grandmother. He was e for lack of a better term. He was a child prodigy at basketball he was long. He was lanky. He could handle the ball like Magic Johnson. He grew up with meta world peace in, you know, New York in New York City, and Elton brand was with those guys. And they have it, but Lamar was was generally regarded as the most talented when he wants told me that he started getting stuff like money, hands, right? When he was eleven. Wow. And so then he he develops he becomes this great high school player, he's going to go to UNLV, and then the whole scandal hits UNLV. And he, he ops out and goes to Rhode Island, in place with a JT, Tino mobile for Jim hair him Herrick, cakes that team to the, the final eight and I think they may may maybe made one final four. And here's the weird thing about owed him. He gets drafted by the clippers. He he ends up in Miami. And then he ends up coming to the Lakers, and when he gets to the Lakers, he and I the only way I can describe this as he was the most popular player in the locker room on a team that had Kobe fish pow. All these guy Luke was on that team Shannon Brown. Lamar was the one guy that they all that held all that together like he literally he would give you the shirt off his back and to watch him spiral down and almost die really almost killed himself. Yep, that is as upset as I've ever seen. Luke walton. He was at the time filling in for Steve Kerr is the head coach of the warriors. And when Lamar member Ramona went out to Zhang to the, the, the what do you call that Mustang ranch Mustang, right? Bunny ranch camera with some type of ranch and brothel. And Lamar said he baits he now thinks this is in the book. He now, thinks that the owner of the brothel tried to poison him is our right. Most people just audio deed on something, but and remember there was, there was a, a two or three D period where he was not married, right? Exactly pathetic. Even if he came out of it, he would be brain damaged and thank God, he was able to come out of it. And the fact that, that he that would have been not that when anybody loses their life, it's not devastating, but that would've been devastating to so many people that you and I know he had the unique. Skill set of being hugely successful at basketball one in six man of the year ward when two titles at the Lakers, and I don't know anybody who didn't say great things about him like was one of the most liked teammates. I ever saw. On his Instagram page. He wrote this. This is sort of following up on on what he said on the radio. He said Kobe Bryant played a crucial role in my life. I have recently started to reflect back about my relationships, and I'm so grateful for the people. God gave me his love and care was so deep, I should have given you my sixth man, award, just because I feel you deserved it might book darkness to light wouldn't be my life story. If you weren't in it, I hope you know, that I'm extremely blessed to have you in my life, not only as a friend, Laker fan, but also as a father figure that I never had. Thank you. Kobe bryant. The other thing that was interesting about Lamar was in this just goes to show, you forget, these guys are people, he could not get past the fact. The Lakers put him in the criminal trial. He couldn't do it. Remember Powell is in the Chris Paul trade, and it got reversed and they turned in pal comeback said Kay, you know, it's just a business. I'll come back and play in the March like those, my family, how you how could you do that to me? And then they ended up trading them because he couldn't handle the fact that he was in a trade, the reverse. Right. He got traded to Dallas, right? Yeah. And his career was never the same out. And, and boy, I, I would have loved to have seen. You know, the Chris Paul trade was obviously, the Lakers made a great trade. It got I would've loved to have seen had had he been able to handle that like Powell handled that I think the Lakers could have maybe extended the run out. When he was on. Nobody could guard him. He's just he was too long at the basket. He was too good. Swiss army knife. Everything at a six eleven Swiss army, great player. Great guy. I'm glad he's doing well. Yup. All right. Coming up next for you is fast track. I want to ask you if you wanna play in the first annual Mason in Ireland poker tournament. Yeah. Commerce casino and hotel text the word poker two four zero seven zero five for a chance of the seat in the tournament, you know pay a dime. The prize pool is twenty five hundred bucks. And how about this Ireland and I have got a five hundred dollar bounty on our heads. You knock us out. You get paid circle Saturday June fifteenth on your calendar. That's a week from Saturday and vote. Don't forget to text poker two four zero seven zero five right now. 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Team of Destiny?

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

44:28 min | 1 year ago

Team of Destiny?

"Baseball tonight the PODCAST. It's Tuesday October twenty second two thousand eighteen this is the baseball tonight podcast some buster only in a hallway at the hotel that we're staying at in Houston Getting Ready for game one of the World Series back in Bristol Choi Farkas Funds Ears Justin verlander talked about the rotation matchups I love it I don't know if you can call it that much more special than others because so many times in the hall of Fame Astros Manager Aj hinch talked about the strategy against Sherzer on Strasbourg if you want to do well against the Nazi gotTa beat their starters they have confidence in all of them they're super tough two of the best pitchers in the game and that's not Patrick Corbin's unbelievable as well so Sanchez so it's GonNa be like four fifteen range buster like I've been waking up early for no reason so I'll probably make it through the first couple innings and then falsely to the radio well you know what and that's somewhat overstate I got a lot of sleep last night very an in advance of today's game on Monday at minute maid doesn't Third Baseman Alex Bregman talked about Sherzer and Strasbourg I mean they have multiple plus pitches they throw all of them both teams have workouts days had media access Garrett Cole who starts game one for the Astros talked about the Washington lineup a friend Jayson stark refers to October as its national sleep deprivation month so just fall in line okay all of us are going sleepless at this point I think that it shows starting pitching tremendously for the nationals of course wrapped up the national league last Tuesday the Astros wrapped up the starts with Anthony Rendong being the tone center a really special talent probably generational talent we'll have to see how it plays out but if it goes as expected he'll probably end up Max Scherzer starts game one for Washington and he talked about his matchup against goal of course I've been in the situation faced really pitchers here in national incredibly talented they've had their back up against the wall early in the year it just kind of goes to show you the the character of the players that they have in the center of the lineup very might not we'll find out tomorrow we focus on this one we can control and that's to keep playing baseball keep our composure and go out there and take care of business can make them make decisions as the game goes on if few sit back and kind of wait for the bullpen or wait for them to make decision you'll you'll look at Strasbourg ensures her American league championship series on Saturday Carlos Correa had reference to that it speaking with reporters and in ten days off is a long time patriots was asked about the difference between the champion two thousand Seventeen Astros and this year's team different years different teams there's a few different players in Kohl's had a terrific year so obviously it's going to be one challenge inevitably Max's asked about is different color eyes taste ball great rotations admitted to the world series face each other it's just the state of the game that we're in right now that everybody's talking about it because two of the best officials that Game All oh here we are right now so I the timing and get the rhythm of the team and get messed up I feel like they were playing great baseball I mean there was there was so much fun to watch I watch every single while they're garrison ten days it's celebrated I've always celebrated whether you liked it or not that's who I am I am one blue one brown there's nothing I can do about it Soviet but seven games so we've got to be very careful of how we do things the nationals of course started this year nineteen and thirty one I mentioned before that Bryce Harper to sorta hangs over this series because he was with the nationals for so many years left them going into this the league over the years Kershaw Brahm those guys you just know you gotta come out there in Zeros and you gotta Try Massey insensitive from the opponent a bit more mature the guys that are here but I haven't given a lot of thought to try to historically compare him I mean I think they're both really good teams we both have gotten to the world series one's gotTa rang with the Phillies I want to be on you know I wanna be there with the team that I'm with you know it's just that's just that competitive nature I don't think he's he's he's jealous suit. The team celebrates it in the video board nets what's the question well was it difficult at all going that path to the point where about all year long so with that being said there's a situation that we feel like a starter could benefit on US capitalizing and win the game then throw throughout the series as you know throughout the year my conversation with Max goes beyond saying I mean I have a pretty good indication when when he's done we talked you know I think we got the same guys we got the same confidence we started winning ball games and you know I think everyone starts to jump on and believe anymore when you win obviously and so love it love that answer Dave Martinez the nationals manager talked about monitoring churches ability he's and now Washington is finally made the World Series Ryan Howard was asked about Bryce Harper's perspective I don't think it's jealousy of saying Oh man I wish I was in Washington the actual team he just wants his team to be there I'm sure he's probably happy for some those world series starts tonight let's get to it one hundred twenty eight hundred and thirty pitches and you'll be to deepen the game to make up a difference those guys getting twenty one twenty four twenty seven outs is is a real possibility for them tainting back to the end of the regular season to now do you think because you guys had to feel that fight like you're playing for a post-season spot little last couple of weeks we've kind of written this way for a while now and we're going to continue to try to compete and do the things that goes here and I think that's a fun and joy the moment sixteen into since here's out of the bullpen more broadly based what's sort of your philosophy about using starters and relief for the series we're GONNA play every game to go one or no as we as I talked to like I said come the sixth seventh eighth inning we're in constant communication with them and see how he's doing he was asked about the possibility of using salvage starting pitcher feels I don't know what they're made of whether they're limestone or not but there are very might tan color and I lost the ball momentarily as it is flying towards resort world series and that was the goal by Dan Schulman at the end of Game Six the American League Championship series Dan plot during Games and knowing that we don't have to pinch hit form you know we can keep them game but that all depends on how Max is doing always I mean the play by play on ESPN radio for the world series joins us now Dan. What's the backstory from a call like that the other night well since you knew the backstory I can't how difficult was it the long path from going as a kid where with the eye condition you were taunted about it to where it's become individuality and you embrace a couple of months of the regular season do you think that's carried I think that's definitely helped you know for me wildcard teams are dangerous in the postseason because you gotta play well at the end of the year just to make it in the post is now I'm looking at Algebra and I'm looking at Gardner and I'm looking at the umpire and I've desperately trying to figure out what happened here and it was actually Brett Gardner who left me World Series David freeze at the plate with the cardinals trailing by a couple runs get listen can't believe you're making me played this buster yeah troy just to let you know Dan Voice telling you the back story on your podcast so but you know play by play guys have scary moments every down with again and that was one for me because I know you had already left the booth you were down and with Washington and the world series is is I think it's maybe the jealousy of I want to be in the world series and I want to be in the world series what happened you could just see from his body language in left field is he played the ball off the wall that it was a home run the ball was in play but it was it was a very scary second order are the most remarkable improbable baseball games you will ever seen and there's GonNa be baseball here in Saint Louis gained seven but if it's off the wall if it's not a homer we're going to have a play at the plate right so and that the ball if you can picture minute maid park so the archways and left center in you know we're here now that interview with MLB Network Trade Journal all Business Ryan Howard was on with Golic and Wingo and and then obviously continue that so it'd be nice to win the division and you know be the favourite and home field advantage and all that but we play good baseball at the end of the year to get in and we and now they're in the world series and trade hundred talked about that the main since swimmingly may when you guys turn things around nine hundred thirty one to worry are now winning we get some calls like that during the course of this world series two teams playing well as we go into the world series two teams with great rotations the triple goes to right field Nelson Cruz is going back if he catches the ball Texas wins the world series is try knows if it's over his head who knows what's going to happen homerun troy what's up with that I assume you wanted the better stuff I give you the whole hold onto northbound I thought that triple was better who took the nine eleven field and now they just having heard the call it all happens very quickly right it feels like an hour in the moment but it's only two seconds and I'm trying to find the ball again so now I know the truth is PTSD 'cause they sent him a note asking for the triple that tied the game he puts up feel gut feel for the series nationals against the Astros well hey you have to be incredibly impressed with what the nationals have done to come back from nineteen Thir- Washington pitching is like against the astros and also you know Dave Martinez really has used like six and a half pitchers in the post season rainy being the seventh every now and again the last couple of years when we've seen the advent of the bullpen strategy I mean when I've talked about I felt like that baseball like think of it like the world wrong but you don't want to be either in a big movie like that so you know fortunately they both worked out okay and I and I wound up on the right side of the call and hopefully oh kind of the tunnel getting ready to be interviews on the field so the ball leaves out to base bat and I like I always hit it fell and I know it's going to last and I don't get deeper into that Washington bullpen to me that may decide the world series and I do feel like the baseball was better for matchup like this with the aces that you're talking about be one you look at their numbers for whatever the date is made the twenty third I think onward and it's like a mirror image of the astros numbers like that's how good that Washington was the why is in ardent rangers fan and when they emailed them this morning to tell the dad out a lot of bitterness right all right here it is do you don't WanNa blow a call that censor team to the world series now you're most favored your most famous call in my opinion was from the two thousand eleven how say two days whether to overhaul this it could be a great team in La then beat a good team at Saint Louis but this Houston lineup is just historically good and I'm fascinated to see what the sling federation they need their Hulk Hogan's they need their Madison Bumgarner Z- you mentioned being of similar age the first world as to the way and I don't know about you are a similar vintage to see these starting pitching matchups it's great like I I get that some teams choose to bullpen or half the bullpen is that I can remember seeing you had the mets against the Oakland Athletics Shift Catfish Honor Hall of Famer? Tom Seaver Hall of Famer Jerry Kouzmin John Mad- lag vital blue cy young award winner the best rotation that I've seen best rotation matchup that I've seen it a world series two thousand one had Kurt Again Randy Johnson Schill at some point we'll get the hall of fame Randy Johnson one of the best left-handers ever in on the other side yet at Roger Clemens and Mike Rodney is the eighth he's going to need more than that of the depth of the Washington bullpen which has not been their strength obviously is going to be newspaper just to see who the starting pitchers were the next day because everybody had really good starting pitchers and I understand that change is necessary and and and it and there was some like white-ish cited in the same kind of thing and for just a split second I lost all so you'd rather be late Xena in Andy Pettitte I think baseball's better serve that way when you have headliners like that it absolutely is I mean we remember in Minnesota Atlanta Right we remember Jack Morris we were member John smoltz You know I remember as a kid growing up in Toronto as a teenager Dave St as a broadcaster and that by the way that game so retirees my favorite night is broadcaster at right I don't know how it gets any better than what happened there stick but my favorite kind of game is one one or one nothing in the seventh at both starters are are just you know fire in seeds and every little bit she was in there with grade you know watching him hit watching him run the bases watching him field like everything about to me is his magical it's great and my favorite kind of base like I love crazy games that freeze game St Louis Texas whatever the final score was eleven ten whatever it was it was fantastic but dad you had a view of an insect backstory about that one is well well the yeah so the altuve eight movement is my second scariest moment baseball the freeze triple is my scariest moment for many teams but to see these four six however many you wanna say great starting pitchers like Scherzer's going to the hall of fame early enters going to going against Bret Saberhagen and Games in the in the AL C. S. nineteen eighty five I remember in the regular season as you do I'm sure opening up the I and snorting and re you know behind the mound and it's like it's like he gets possessed for awhile he's competitive nature is off the charts but his ability to have we pop on the elevator and someone might have been you know I think it was Chris Single Tinder said something like hey don't bother Max Scherzer and Theron and Max Scherzer and his wife Erika Have Fun in the moment is also off the charts his stuff is great he's a great teammate. You know the group that he got in on with Strasbourg and power and whoever else about Max Scherzer first of all you know he breaks his memory broke his nose in batting practice earlier this year and he goes out the next day and he strikes out ten and when he gets to like stomp saves you guys went up a couple more floors to hear what he had to say but nobody in baseball has more fun playing baseball than Max Scherzer what do you think walk like nuts bolts with him actually what I said to him is since the last time I saw him I had come across a former college teammate of his at Klay matters executing well matters every pitch as tension I hope we got a couple of those in this world series so I was jealous of your last night we had dinner and helling and and I you know we all have for players for whatever reason that we just love to watch and Max Scherzer is probably number one he is even though you and I are are more involved in radio your TV but he is as we say in the business he's good tv I mean he is just you can't take your sitting in the back of the elevator with all of ice and Max got that smile on his face and I thought about this after I got off the elevator first up I was jealous that I couldn't be part of that it's going to come to light here in the world series so you know I think a lot of it is in Houston grind out at bats can they get starters out after five or six instead of seven or eight a significant tangible advantage that they had over teams that they played what's your sense of that yeah I I would agree with that one hundred percent even though some of them are still fairly young fool if there's a nascar pool he's running the pool in the clubhouse I'm sure he runs the fantasy league because he's a huge sports fan and he competes like Tame Green Tea may go to the Hall of fame and Colin's prospered could go to the hall of Hall of fame you know depending on what the next seven or eight years of their careers to like this is leaving it all routed a frenzy reeds jewelers settled no doubt about it on the flip side and the Astros side and I really felt this way and watching Jose Altuve Bay and talking with them right after the game and then is awesome when you're at the ballpark when you're watching them on TV Max Scherzer is one of my favorite players baseball to watch Jose altuve incidentally is another one to to to swing and I fly ball tape left field oh you know you look at Bregman you'll get spring or you look at out to a there is not a millisecond where you say hey the moment got too big for these guys the one guy who is really dinner last night but he'll he'll smile and if you say good luck today he'll say thanks you won't blow by you like he doesn't see you just a good guy on many levels Missouri who had you know asking what do you do for a living and I told him and he said he mentioned and we just started talking so it was a it was an old teammate of sure like he respects the hell out of other teams but he's not shy about saying this really good ball club that they'd got as well and and and I agree with you there is no they have their And then you bring all these starting pitching especially a guy like Orlando they acquired a couple of years ago who's been there done that just about everything you can do domestic violence policy the Astros criticized for that the Astros also released a statement Monday night calling the story misleading and completely irresponsible ogling is rookie and your Don Alvarez interesting to see what they do with him going forward and he won't be at the line of anyways in Washington Games but really be in the lineup in in the Games in all now other reporters from the Houston Chronicle Yahoo Dot com of come out and completely back to sports illustrated story so I feel like now Dan it's not only so that list for me yeah as I've told this story before but when in spring training when the NC Double A. Tournament's Max Scherzer is the guy running or whatever the case may be but see Sherzer in coal and Strasbourg endure ladder ranking corbin. I it's it's awesome so in terms of the field you know twelve men's actions about the Houston Astros Organization saying with the statement that established journalist is misrepresenting what happens I feel like MLB at this point needs to step in it has to be looked into given the corroboration of independent reporters. I thought the statement I I didn't like the statement at all I mean the statement is extremely strong and attic they've got the quiet professionalism of guys come over from Cleveland with playoff experience in Brantley I love I love the personality mix that I I agree with you there you know it's interesting because Washington is is an older team to like they've got a Lotta guys who've been in the postseason for other teams they've got a lot of older in and investigate this and come up with appropriate action what do you think yeah I couldn't agree more I mean given the corroboration of independent reporters Japan is like that that was what I sense with the Yankee teams that I covered from ninety eight to two thousand and one that by the third or fourth time that was reading although Max is to kind of guide you know like you don't talk to a starting pitcher on game day like you just don't do it but if you and I walked past Sherzer he won't stop and say hey how was guys who've been around the block but I think you're right you know Aj hinch is not shy about it he says listen we know how good we are and we know what we're capable of doing and here's how we're going to go out like Springer and Korea and Greg these younger players but they've all had a lot of postseason experience you know they've got kind of grind in grit of a guy like I am remains to be seen but other than him you know everybody else has a ton of experience all right one minute left I wanna run this past you real quickly sports illustrated troy will this be an event that you'll actually stay up for the world series I will definitely not make it throughout most of the game I've been waking up early and earlier and you know who who is a huge sports fan did he give you any special insight in the two floors up after I left by the way not not really I decided not to surety but there's only there's only so much you can accomplish the two more floors on the elevator before you gotta get off but I wanted to get it in yesterday because you know you're not GonNa get it in today with Him Star thank God we got us I'm so glad we gotta sooner and of course Astra's closer Roberta soon as served seventy five game suspension last year for violating MLB Monday alleged that during the post game celebration in the clubhouse assistant GM Brandon Todman turned a group of female reporters and repeatedly yelled around that team we've gotten to the point where the Astros now at this is l. to base the parents in the postseason or fourth appearance in the postseason where I feel like their experiences intends to discredit the validity of the original story and it's too big of an issue for that kind of a statement to come out that quickly without an investigator Asian being done you know the one side is saying a player presumably sooner was being interviewed at the time the other side is saying he wasn't even there at the time you know were there other reports Oh podcasts at E._S._p._N. dot com slash pod separate baseball tonight the podcast everything else I actually did pick I'm sure I said to you on here I said Astros over national so I sort of feel compelled to stick with what you know what I was picking their earlier this summer to buy tickets to a panthers titans gay my son is an ardent titans fan and I told him that after the world series real question is how easy would it be those ticketing sites actually cared with millions of live event tickets price-match guarantee seeking proves there's I'm works you know I could totally see them winning it somehow yeah and I need you to acknowledge this because I have the same thing I picked the astros to win better way they built the fastest way to find tickets you can stop searching for the perfect seat in started joining it search sports live music comedy and more MLB DOT com we'll start with this give me a prediction on the world series nationals and Astros so at the beginning of the season before weekend tickets you're looking for all in one place why is he better than the rest a quick look at the APP store shows over fifty thousand five-star reviews house is over we're going to go watch the titans and it's going to be in Charlotte and that was so easy we got these great seats as Oh we'll seek easy to use sequel even ah I think I got asked for prediction of couple of days ago maybe it was yesterday and I said six games I really think it could go either way but it feels like percent and Dan Thanks for doing this thanks for ruining Troy's Day hey that's just a bonus in my we'll see out of the ballpark before we speak with Sarah Lang week displays them on an interactive seat map seeking breaks down the details green dots make good deals red dots are overprice in every purchase is fully Gary Ten dollars off your first seatgeek purchase all you need to do is use our promo code download the secret gap today Promo Code Buster Buster the ever feel like ticketing websites may getting to the event difficult on purpose it's as 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MLB needs to look into it and I think if the Astros have a kind of a conscience they need to look into it as well as this kind of a story is for ten dollars off your first purchase that's Promo Code Buster for ten dollars off your first purchase numbers Game Sarah Lanes they reporter and producer number two number two is one so the pitchers in this world series include to first overall picks Strasbourg who went first overall to the Nazis something pretty historic if he bats cleanup which he's done all postseason so if he does he become the third youngest player to start a world series game in the cleanup spot and the only grank into the mix since nineteen forty five when there were a lot fewer teams lot fewer pitchers and it was a little easier to get six of the top twenty all together in one place says and he was certainly a breakout star of the postseason these very young in that often comes up with a lot of the notes with him but was twenty and he's going to be Twenty One oh nine and Garrett Cole who was first overall to the pirates in twenty eleven before this year only two pitchers who were first overall pick in the June draft inside here's our Strasbourg Corbin all of them getting that time off is only going to make them stronger and so I think that it's a little different than some of these other teams that may be worthy three number three is five so five of the pitchers in this world series we're in the top ten in strikeouts in the regular season this year Garrett Kohl's I for lender all series back in January but I had them beating the braves and I you know the beginning of the POSTSEASON ESPN DOT COM S. four picks for the postseason and I stuck with not can shop for tickets with confidence I have the seek APP on my phone and it's by far the fastest and easiest way to find tickets in fact they just use the APP is who were younger Miguel Cabrera six times in two thousand three and ty Cobb five times in one thousand nine hundred seven and a lot of the postseason was spent talking about liberty he's off leading into world series nationals with six days off do you believe things Sarah you know I believe that we have seen world I again it's you know there's a twelve and twelve in there it's not necessarily one thing leads to another but I think it will not hurt the nationals his twenty so once Otas twenty right now we discussed last time he'll be twenty one on Friday the day of game three but no matter which age he is he's got a chance to do and to be on that winning streak entering the world series has actually lost the world series and includes the two thousand seven rockies and some teams that we've seen sort of just not ready after he's GonNa get hopefully a lot of that spotlight on him as well deservedly so over these next few diss exchanging emails with you yesterday over day can you describe the work that they've been doing I know they had Wednesday up basically Thursday through Sunday what type of stuff were they doing so big key here at ever made a world series start David price for the Red Sox in two thousand eighteen and Mike Moore who was drafted by the Mariners first-overall pitch for the as in the world series Oh I made my astros over nationals kick and early in the year obviously it didn't look great and then as the nationals came back from that nineteen thirty one start and everything I mean of course I was hoping that what happened one hundred percent so I could get my screen shot from where I put it and make sure that the world was a west all right let's play the numbers game number I'm pretty sure our new house might be haunted what makes you say that the furniture is levitating on the ghost welcome whole yeah that's that's rookie

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Cardinals Alumni Events: David Freese, 2011 WS Team, Honoring Simmons, Brock & Gibson and Fantasy Camp Info  Joe Pfeiffer

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Cardinals Alumni Events: David Freese, 2011 WS Team, Honoring Simmons, Brock & Gibson and Fantasy Camp Info Joe Pfeiffer

"Well if you haven't been paying attention to what's happening in two thousand twenty one. You're missing out on some of the best dates especially in the second. Half of the baseball season coming through bush stadium. The reason why we weren't sure if we're going to have fans much less what kind of capacity what would be the situation with fans while its full capacity which means a lot of things getting sandwiched in to the second half of the baseball season at busch stadium and visit with a joe pfeiffer who runs the alumni of the saint louis cardinals. And let's start with this joe first of all great to see The alumni. Of the saint louis cardinals. It is massive isn't it. it's massive. Danny you're right. It's the most active in all of major league baseball. And that's not us being bias or putting rose colored glasses on its actual fact. We go to the winter meetings. We'd be reviews with clubs and we are fortunate to have the most active alumni base. And we have more than seventy guys that played with the club that live here locally which is a huge asset to the team. And you guys do such a great job of making sure. They're always welcomed their part of the family. I we say you're part of the family. Wants you wear that. Carl uniform and you're always bringing them back to the ballpark we are. That's our goal. I think we're probably the most flexible related to tickets house fatality for guys. There's other clubs out there not the bashing the other clubs but they make it hard on the alumni to comeback and really participate or even Come to a ball game. And it's pretty much an open door policy. Here we take care of our alumni. But they've taken great care of us and just like our baseball operations side how they want to treat the players and manage the players the current players. We wanna keep that connection with them when they retire. Some guys want to engage immediately. There's other guys go away awhile. There's almost like a grieving period. When they're done being a current player but after a couple of years they realized they want still potentially be part of the game. They don't know what that is. But that's what we're here for. And we're just so incredibly fortunate that we have guys locally regionally but also all over the country florida california arizona that are just incredibly active with us and one of those guys. They probably went through a little bit of that period and went through so much in his career is david freeze where he becomes a hometown hero. Everybody's tugging at you. Then you get out of the game. Do you think gotta catch my breath a little bit but now he really wants to come back and be a part of the family. Yeah and honestly. I thought he would catch his breath a little bit longer than he did. He what he retired with. The dodgers In literally two months later he gives it gives me a call in Jupiter for fantasy camp In twenty in january and he calls and say hey joe. I'm ready to dive in every team. I played for had good relationships with the dodgers and with the angels and but saint louis home and i love my time with the cardinals and i really just wanna focus on being part of the alumni base of the saint louis cardinals and he's he's not local anymore. He lives in texas so the fact that he wants to do that and is going to be incredibly engaged. We had big plans for him in twenty twenty. Obviously we couldn't deliver on those but he's going to be quite active here in the second half of the twenty one season. what is he doing. He's going to lead off with august seventeenth. So every cardinals fan. That loves that. Two thousand eleven and loves david freeze and just you know. Remembers the biggest moment in cardinals. History should be here on august seventeenth. This budweiser bash. It's a theme ticket. The vip tickets already sold out. There might be some remaining tickets for the bobblehead itself. But if you can't even get the theme ticket. I'd encourage every cardinal fan to buy a ticket tuesday night. Tickets are going to be affordable especially on the tuesday night. Be here. it's our official. Welcome back for david. Freeze the hometown hero. And he's gonna throw out a first pitch that nights. You're not gonna wanna miss that that. That place is going to be going nuts. Busch stadium to see him back in knowing that he is a cardinal and probably having that alumni twenty-three even though it's going to be retired but david freeze jersey. It's going to mean something. It's going to mean a lot and a lot of our fans missed out on some of the ceremonial traditional things that we do early in the season. Obviously we only had about fourteen thousand year for opening day so our second half is going to be our opportunity to really celebrate tradition. And i always tell our fans our sponsors and our alumni regardless of how our teams performing and we're very fortunate over the last two decades that this team has done incredibly well especially when you compare them with the other twenty nine teams league-wide but tradition. I always say never goes into a slump and we have the best. The yankees are right there. The dodgers right there but As far as an active base. Nobody's better than the saint. Louis cardinals. I'm looking at the saturday. Signings which is really cool. Over at the The hall of fame museum. Ted sizemore david epstein. Vince coleman a cardinal hall of famer. John tudor tommy. Her cardinal hall of famers dmitri young. Haven't heard from him. In a long time chris carpenter card to hall of famer Fan favourite was fernando vina. Just go online. You'll see those dates but that's really cool to get those guys back. It is and really. We're doing a lot over the next two months. We'd spread out over the course of an entire season. So the saturday signings brought to you by budweiser zero. It's a robust list guys. And we've already had a couple of signings including jim edmonds a couple of weeks ago but Have ted sizemore kicking it off your at the end of july. But then it's a robust list of guys that are fans are going to be really excited about world series. Mvp a few car. Four cardinals hall of famers. I don't know if anybody's seen to meet your young and saint louis since the late nineties. So we're excited in a cardinal uniform. Have him back here. Busch stadium and it's been a while since our fans have been able to connect with fernando vina who was one of the more popular players during his time here. So the saturday signings are going to be quite impactful to cardinals dot com slash museum. Click on saturday signings. But your autograph tickets there. I'm looking at the the budweiser bash. We just had. The spiezio does in town with scott and ed spiezio wearing the cardinal uniform and the bobblehead but then i'm looking at bo heart incredibly popular. Obviously david freeze. We talked about lee smith ricky and keel Those are some big names as well. So what happens with the bud bash. Budweiser bashes become just a standard for for anheuser busch. It's a theme night. We do six manually now. We really want to impact our fans by bringing guys back. There were really popular in bo. Heart falls into that category for sure. Well he doesn't have the name recognition that some of our guys do. He was loved by our fans and he's engaged. He and his wife and their kids live in tennessee. But he's you might as well live in saint. Louis is active is. Bo is so he's fantastic. Obviously david frizzell huge lee smith loves being a cardinal. I know he's in cooperstown with the cubs logo on his hat but he loved his time ear and he loves engaging our organization so it'll be great to have him here on september seventh and then we'll wrap up budweiser bash with regained keel. And it's a double bobble. It'll be one of the cooler bomb was that we've done in this series. I wanted him as a pitcher in one is him as a hitter. How 'bout with ted simmons. What's happening teddy. Yeah i mean teddy. Couldn't be more excited July thirty first. We're going to have the opportunity. Obviously retire his number. Is that's been announced and then we'll have the unveiling of his new statue. That'll be a two o'clock ceremony on saturday july thirty first and then you won't have your tickets to the game that night to see the unveiling of his retired number and no more. Nobody more humble and appreciative. That i've ever seen with the honors. That are being bestowed upon him. Ted is Incredibly excited this is wonderful in his awesome is cooperstown is going to be for him in september. He's going to have a ton of family and friends here on july thirty first and he's he's just so incredibly overwhelmed by this opportunity. It's amazing and i think i speak for. Everybody were so happy to finally see him get his do one of the great things about visiting with joe pfeiffer is the fantasy camp so fantasy camp has moved this year what about spots and then if it sold out moving and looking forward to the next one. Yeah i'd encourage people just to reach out to us at fantasy camp at cardinals dot com. Because it'll be twenty two months since we've had our last camp. We moved our january camp to november this year in order to save it. Obviously we wouldn't have been able to have it in january in florida in the current climate. But we're gonna. We're looking good for november. The campus sold out It's it's going to be a two thousand eleven. Ten year anniversary of that club and david freeze and allen craig are coming to their i camps. it's close to forty alumni that are participating in about one hundred thirty eight hundred forty campers as we call them and We're excited. I mean it's been a long gap since we've delivered on a fantasy camp due to the pandemic and We couldn't be more excited with the amount of hall of famers. Ted simmons will be there timothy carver. Rasi whitey So it's going to be it's going to be a great experience. It always is but five days. Jupiter right after the regular season ends. It's early this year. It's november third through the eight so if we win the world series it will be coming right off that a timeline. But we're looking forward to it and then moving noon in the future. This camp will sit in the late november early december timeframe. We just feel. That's a sweet spot for it based on other things that go on organizationally and then we'll bring the saint louis camp in the busch stadium camp back in twenty twenty two There's some news concerning Lou brock bob gibson which probably fans may or may not know about but there is going to be an official way. We've seen the patches. But because the pandemic fans at the ballpark heaven had their their. I guess just do in day and night to honor Two of the greats in cardinals history and the timing is finally right which is great to have as many fans as we can have in busch stadium to honor to the greatest ballplayer. Not only cardinals but ever to play the game and so the we it'll be hall of fame weekend cardinals hall of fame weekend. Which obviously this year. We're inducting tommy. Her john tutor bill white which were twenty twenty inductees and then keith hernandez twenty one inductee and but that we so that's saturday's the hall of fame induction but friday night will honor lou. Brock in his will be present and so fans will not want to miss that pre-game ceremony that night and then sunday. We will do the same thing for bob gibson and his family. Finally the two thousand eleven reunion. I want to go back to that because this is the ten year reunion of one of the more popular world series wins ever because of what happened in game six. Obviously with david free. So let's go through that weekend when it is and what's happening. It's the weekend of saturday September eighteenth is the actual reunion date. We're playing the san diego padres. So that should be a great series Really good club. So hopefully the matchup means a lot for both teams but we already know that more than twenty five guys have already confirmed that they're coming back from for the reunion which is a significant number forty. Six different guys played on that team point. It was just a massive number that impacted that team. But it'll be a great celebration. We'll have it'll really be what fans experience on opening day. They're going to experience it saturday. September eighteenth we'll have a full parade afford trucks on our field with all the guys will have the world series trophy out there. Obviously you can imagine that david friesen. His handful of other teammates will be part of the first pitch ceremony that night. And but it's a robust list. Two guys that are coming back. Obviously it's amazing. How many current guy our guys that are currently still playing From that team. Obviously albert won't be here. Tony's managing in chicago landslides chicago. But even all that being said it's going to be a great night to celebrate that club and If there's a game that if i'm if i'm a fan and i've got to make a choice. I'm two one cardinals game in the second. Half of twenty twenty one at saturday. September eighteenth awesome stuff. Joe love what you do. Thanks for always inform the fans. Thanks dan appreciate it.

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SCOREBOARD: Playoff Clarity

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

18:50 min | 3 years ago

SCOREBOARD: Playoff Clarity

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What a season for the Oakland Athletics certainly have surpassed any expectations that needs like me had for them on Monday night. They had an opportunity to clinch a playoff spot in the American League. They face the Mariners in the top of the sixth inning, Chris Davis came to the plate. That's a good that one is not. Very deep babies gone another solo shock for the as and now they lead at three, two one. Glenn Kuyper, NBC sports, California with that call on by that time, the as knew that they were in the playoffs because the Yankees had beaten, the Tampa Bay rays to eliminate the raise and to put Oakland into the postseason. This was the final call ninety five point seven the game and now through pitch to Seger is on the way in swan, invest in down. He goes. On a fastball ninety eight in the is of one at and for the Oakland Athletics nuts there, their ninety, fifth win and now is the vault out of the dugout. They can head back to the clubhouse in really enjoy a very well earned celebration, and they're back in the postseason remarkable. The fifth seed in American League with ninety five victories. And after that seventy three, when they did go crazy, Blake training spoke during the celebration. It's about celebrating while we worked so hard for and what is what we still have to accomplish. Our guy worked so hard this show so proud of so thankful Orgainzation guys like myself and other guys opportunities, and I think this test and how much together man is my last year while I thank you. It's been, it's a big part, but we've got a cool by coordinating factor. We got everybody doing their jobs, and I think the fact that we can rely on our teammates every night allows us to play free and easy. So bullpen bulletin throws well, because we're cutting their offense off his play with our starters, getting deeper devoe pin. So overall, just the team effort. Our season is not hung on one group or one person. It's a combination. That's what makes us season. So phone man, much adrenaline going on there. Wow. That from NBC sports, California, Dallas brain with that interview. Chris Davis also talked about the season in the accomplishment. The of you could see were celebrating in the moment, and I'm so proud of this team, the way we're battled it we overcame. I've been visited this day for a while and I just kept being positive, positive and. It's been fun. It's indescribable. I can't really put it into words, the angels and the Rangers playing out the string. The score was tied four all in the bottom of the eleventh inning. When this happened. That's how much. Track near the wall. That was a home run hit by Jose foreseen oh, of the angels. They win five to four Shohei Ohtani homered for the twenty first time this season in just three hundred in seven at bats, a nine twenty-five Opie s the Padres and the giants playing out the string. And before this game, the giants announced the general manager. Bobby Evans has been reassigned Bryant Sabin who is being in power over the giants baseball operations department for so long also is being moved aside and the giants who've been quietly looking for Evans's replacements over the last few months, make it official and is the game played out, didn't go well for the giants again roll the piece. It first time now drives towards the gap. It left centerfield it pretty well back towards the wall, and it is gone. Homerun Jose Parrella nearly hit one earlier that went foul this what he sends out to left centerfield. Fourth home run for Parrella and the Padres add on take a free. Nothing lead John or sell on the Padres television networks, San Diego wins five, nothing behind Brian Mitchell. You remember him last winter, the Padres traded with the Yankees in a deal that also included chase Headley and on this night paid off Brian Mitchell eight and two-thirds shutout innings, seven hits and seven strikeouts the Indians and the White Sox Corey Glover going. I twentieth win in two thousand eighteen in Brandon. Guyer broke a zero zero tie in the top of the seventh. Brandon Guyer on loans too deep left back as he's out a romance on a hair. The Indians are on the board with the first score of the night. Seventh home run of the season for granted Dyer. And how do you like that? The last two batters that in Fanton has faced for the Indians have both taken a deep Fox Sports, Ohio, the Indians television network there. So kluber was in position to win his twentieth slung on a little jam job shallow center. Allen's coming in makes the cats ballgame. Corey kluber twenty game winner the first Indian to win twenty since cliff Lee in two thousand eight. Tom Hamilton, of course with that call WTN eleven hundred. Just the other day, bumped into our friend, Tom and a hallway outside of the visitor's clubhouse in progressive field that I told him, we always sort of. Talk about how he's got that booming voice, and I'm sure that he gets a lot of reaction is told him from fans in opposing parks, when he celebrating something at the Indians dead, he just burst out laughing. Really annoy people. And I told him that our dream for our announcer dream for October is that he in Bob euchre at the microphone. That's exactly right. Did you tell them that we're rooting for the Indians to win it on a walk off game? Seven, homerun in, although we want Tom to stick around, no, that his head would literally explode if that happened. I did not mention head exploding to Tom k. probably probably the best. Yeah, probably for the best. The nationals in the Marlins and Bryce Harper reached a milestone for the first time in his career. Here's the pet. Here's the swing. Wipe all deep left field. This should do it. Dean. Drifting back toward the warning track makes the catch heat will tag. He'll come down the line and he'll score Bryce. Harper has one hundred RBI is for the first time in his major league career. That from the nationals radio network. Bryce Harper has had a tremendous second half as he heads into free agency want Soto. Did it again five one nationals. Now Soto. Trying to t off out there. See you later number twenty one for the rookie. Bob carpenter on mass and for one soda. Yes, his twenty. First Homer, he's hitting two ninety five this season according to the notes, sent to us by Kyle Southie with seventy three runs those twenty one homers sixty six RBI and three hundred ninety seven at bats, Josh. I think he's going to finish second for nationally rookie of the year behind. Ronald the Kuni junior that's notes mall feet. I was going to say there's no shame in that. Absolutely. He's had a great season. There's so many great young rookies in the NFL at it's quite an accomplishment to even be in the conversation and Soto certainly is that again, he's nineteen years old doesn't turn twenty until this fall. The Red Sox and the Orioles. Mookie Betts took a couple days off and since he came back on Sunday, he's been red hot, two thousand eleven fly ball carrying deepen left up there up there and God, the monster seats. Dave O'Brien on Nessin. And so the Red Sox rent position to beat the Orioles in the ninth inning to pick up their hundred six win which be a record for their franchise in also to clinch ho field advantage in the American League, a lot of stuff going on there in the top of the ninth inning and the one to pitch the Nunez swinging to ground ball box. The second hold has it fires the first time and a Red Sox break a record set. One hundred six years ago with our one hundred six victory. They beat the Baltimore Orioles tonight sixty two. They clinched home field throughout the postseason. And Joe Castiglione with that Colin w e the maybe the best news of the day for the Red Sox, Sandra vogue arts back in the lineup. If you remember on Sunday night, he had to come out of the Sunday night game in Cleveland because of left shoulder soreness. A really funky looking swing that he took. Alex core came out and basically told them to go back to the dugout, make sure that he's okay. He was back in the lineup, any picked up. RBI number ninety six. Nathan a volley again throwing well, five innings, four hits one hundred run and ten strikeouts the Astros in Toronto facing the Blue Jays Alex bregman get a big hit. Here's a line drive down the left field line hooking away from Davis in it's down and it's going to bang off the wall down the left deal. Mine regmunt will trade places without to bay with that RBI double his one hundred and first RBI the season, the Astros lead four to nothing. Steve sparks KVM e seven ninety AM the Astros win this game five. Two, three Carlos Correa the shortstop out of the lineup. Again, he is not played in five days, and if you look at his numbers since he came off the disabled list on August tenth, after dealing with a back issue, he's hitting just one seventy four one home run in a hundred and forty plate appearances. You really wonder if he's going to be okay in the postseason the Yankees trying to hang onto the number one wildcard spot in the American League were down in Tampa before this game TD regardless talked to reporters about that right risk cartilage tear that he has. And he said that since he got the cortisone shot on Saturday, then he's been feeling a whole lot better. Well, as this game played out in mccutchen may the keys feel whole lot better. Now it is drilled two. From the would nothing hearings. Mike. Okay. And the yes network. And he went on to talk about what a great acquisition or mccutchen has been for the Yankees. We'll see what kind of impact he has an October for them. Giancarlo. Stanton also got a big hit. Can get there. The closed off. The third and heading home is going through. There to stand. He is. But Gordon scores on the RBI double and the cake eight, three to one lead. At again, Michael k and the Yankees would hold a four to one lead into the ninth inning. Here was the call on six twenty w DA to strike pitch. Devours from Britain is popped up into the left side of the infield with Neil Walker, moving to his right. He is under he catches it. And with that, the American League teams for the playoffs are all set. The rays of the last American League team eliminated the Oakland a.'s are heading to the post season, and the race officially are eliminated the race, a tremendous season. One of the best teams in baseball as this season finishes it up, but they will not be participating in the postseason. I mentioned the good news about Dede regardless perhaps, but during the course this game, Aaron Hicks had to come out because of a hamstring, some hamstring tightness. We'll see how that is. Is they move forty? He's been a real key cog in the Yankees lineup in recent weeks, the nationally races what we're all. Watching this point, five teams fighting for four spots, the Rockies returning home to finish their season. They're facing the Philadelphia Phillies at the beginning of this week and Nolan. Our Nado got the Rockies going in the first inning. Serafin dropped here cuts, Chuck nasty with doping. Run doping DJ goes, I to. They here. Fifteenth seventeen. Close. AT and t. sports net and David dole would tack on in the fourth, the drive by goal to left take so tear to the wall crashes into the wall, and it's gone, oh, terrorists still down on the warning track. Put an opposite field touch of all time for David dome from eight fifty k. away and it was good for the Rockies a great sign. The Trevor story is back in the lineup. Vote to send field. This could be another double for story. With John gray throwing well, seven, strong innings, foreheads. Wondering, run seven strikeouts the Rockies win. This game tend to one the dodgers at the top of the nationally west face the Diamondbacks who've absolutely collapsed in this game. David freeze got a big hit on one one, David freeze the other way that one's way back there. Did he get enough. The app from the dodgers television network, Manny. Machado would get a big hit. Why? Why field on its way and is off the globe of Olin who run are going to score. They wanna run. They're going to hold ugly at third, nearly a homerun Owings his globe over the yellow line was able to flick it back into play. A second run in the ninth and the dodgers lead at six to three Charley Steiner AM five seventy sports LA wins game seven to four, Clayton Kershaw six innings, three and runs and six strikeouts David freeze helping out the dodgers. You got three hits in this game, the cubs face the pirates in the top of the first inning Francisco survelliance left the yard. Frackdown the line and deep if it's very, it's way outta here. That's a long home run for Francisco serve Ellie. Defa Mateen sports net. By the way, survelliance home run hit a car. There's some cool pictures of that on MLB dot com. So he's had a terrific season. He helped the pirates build a lead this game. It was still two to nothing. When this happened. Lead casper Jim dish as on NBC sports, Chicago, but that would be the end of the cubs offense in this game. Pittsburgh tacking on in the ninth inning race drive the left field little Pablo radius has just cleared the deck with a cannonball wriggling. Pablo Reyes hits his second major league home run and gives the bucks a five one lead in the ninth inning in Chicago. FM sports. Radio ninety. Three point seven. The fan, the pirates went five to one Jameson Tyrone, seven innings, five hits one earned run. He's been tremendous down the stretch of one point. Three, eight ERA in the month is hip timber and the brewers in the coordinators, two contenders facing off in Saint Louis. It was tied for all in what was a really weird game when this happened and throw prayers and nutball getting by carpenter and score and the brewers have the lead. That was who from that was Robert m. f. euchre on WTMJ nobody makes an error sound better than Robert m. f. I know exactly. So is five to four at that point Lorenzo Cain reach base in the top of the ninth inning, four. The brewers in MVP candidate. Christian yelich came to the plate down the line fair. We'll get into the corner. Now, the speedy Kane on the run that he's try to score will score Christian yelich. Double six, four Milwaukee piece of hitting by Christian yelich. That from the brewers, television network Christian yelich in the month of September in, oh, PS of eleven hundred and fifty five. He's been absolutely tremendous. The brewers beat the cardinals six, two four. The races are tightening in the National League, the cubs ninety one at sixty five, the brewers one and a half games behind, but just one game behind in the loss column Milwaukee's. Now three full games ahead of the cardinals in the race for the number one wildcard spot the cardinals in the number two spot, but their lead over Colorado's down to a half game the dodgers just one and a half games. The head of the Rockies one in the loss column. Thanks for listening to baseball tonight scoreboard be sure to also check out the baseball tonight. Podcast, Tim Kirch in will join me to talk about these races and about the changes in the giants front office. Placenta. Lang's is numbers game and some inside heat on the brewers from Tom hot record of the Milwaukee journal sentinel. Thanks for listening and have a great day. Everybody. Thanks for listening. 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The Right Moves

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The Right Moves

"My name is Lauren. I'm thirty three. I didn't want my identity to be the smoking mom. My first experience with jewel. I do remember being like distance, good. It's it's it's like a cigarette, but not. I don't miss smoking at all. Like I can officially say it grosses me out jewel is the tobacco alternative that delivers nicotine satisfaction without cigarette Asher lingering odor make the switch and j. u. l. dot com. Slash sports warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. These baseball tonight. The podcast, this is the baseball tonight podcast for Wednesday, October twenty, four, two thousand eighteen. I'm BUSTER only our producer everyday is Josh macrey. Daas the Red Sox won game one of the World Series in our old friend and former. Yes, bien colleague, Alex Cora manager, the Red Sox. He seems to be making all the right moves. It wouldn't you agree? I think that's pretty easy to see BUSTER. I I know that you've been watching a lot of games. You've been watching baseball a long time, but it doesn't take an expert to know. Making all the right moves in everything. He does seems to be working out just the way he hopes it will. Yes. And he was asked about making those moves after game. One of the World Series give them listen to this exchange in the post game. Press conference is when you're making decisions at a game like this, that you know will be second guessed if they don't work out. Is there ever any fear anxiety that creeps in? And if so, how do you block it out now? Ma'am. I really don't care if they second guess me, you know, I prepare. We prepare as a group and you make decisions, you know. And honestly, when I'm done here, I shower. I get on that car. Am I gonna take since, say, go to the pharmacy and get some diapers for the kids. So, I mean, that's, that's, that's I gaze second guessing over there. So I mean, this is a game and I enjoyed I know that we're in the spotlight here managers, they, there's a lot of shows now at night and they're going to dissect every move. I was part of that. So I learned those four years working for ESPN Todd me a lot being around LeicesteR and TIMMY and and all those guys, you know, I learned a lot, so I'm I, I don't want. I know he's going to sound bad, but I don't care if they second guess me. So my friend Debbie game Brown sent me direct message this morning basically saying, hey, did you see Alex mentioned? And I thought, oh, that's cool and mentioned Tim Kirch in myself and working ESPN. And then I thought more about it, Josh. And I thought, you know, he's basically saying, hey, I've been around those media guys have been around BUSTER admit around Tim man. They're really dumb. Why would I worry about what those guys think it was? It was bad candidate BUSTER. It was definitely backhanded. I think that's safe to say, oh man, and it sorta. It reminded me of the conversation I had before game one. I was in the Red Sox clubhouse and it's talking with Brock cold and JD Martinez, Andrew Benintendi, and Brockhall looks at me, and he goes, hey, who you got in the World Series. And I said, I got you guys and five, and he nodded like, okay, you're smart guy. And I said, let me tell you what the other predictions I made sit in spring training. I changed my pick and I picked the Yankees to win the division over you guys and his eyebrows raised. I said, yeah. And then the first round you played the Yankees. I picked the keys to win, and then I picked the Astra. To beat you as well. And I said, I was concerned about your bullpen and so brought Ken. It's mild and janey looked at me and said, rookie mistake. Yeah. Now we're dumb BUSTER. It's been well established. Everybody knows it. Yeah. So why would Alex ever worry about what idiots like me and Tim think that's for sure. Look, there's a lot today sect in game. One today, funds conversations with retard. Skains Paulin bikinis, Sarah, Lang's, and Chris singleton to lead off. Let's get to it. Chris singleton is working the World Series on ESPN radio alongside Dan Shulman. I'm playing a bit role in during the broadcast, but Chris being one of the heavy lifters and Chris, I love how you doing this morning during the World Series. You get into this grind day after day after day travels going on, you sort of have an I. I have a difficult time sleeping coming back from these games because you get a lot of adrenaline watching the biggest games of the year. Yeah, I agree with you. Come back to the room last night. I turned on the television and watch some of the highlights kinda, you know, walk through again. Here's some of the sound from the guys, you know, hey, we're still fans and her still also kinda pull pulling information in. So yeah, I'm with you. You pick your spots, you know, you get some spots. This. We go to the west coast to give it a little more sleep out there earlier gains and body clocks different. But yeah, I'm good to go ready for game two tonight. All right. And I agree with you. You come back from a game like last night and it takes some time to sort of process it. You begin to think big picture about what's going on. And so I'm gonna throw some numbers at you about the Red Sox in this postseason so far against the Yankees. One hundred one team Astros hundred win team dodgers nationally champions last year. Again this year, they're eight and two and they've outscored their opponents sixty four to thirty nine so that they're just beating the heck out of the. Teams. They're playing out of those sixty four runs thirty. Two been scored with two outs that win last night. Was there one hundred sixteen of this season? If you combine the regular season and the postseason if they win the World Series, they'll have one hundred nineteen wins regular season postseason combined. That'll be the second most for any championship team in major league baseball history. The most being one hundred and twenty-five from the one thousand nine hundred ninety eight Yankees. Tell me what you're seeing in these Red Sox saying, well, I mean to such a talented balance ballclub and you know they're window if you will. It just seems to be right having the right talent BUSTER, but then also the right people in place and you know, you look at a player like Mookie Betts. All right. He's right there. You know with or slightly behind my trout in terms. Of of the best player in the game. Obviously, trout is the established guy in that regard, but that's as you know, he's there and he's close, but just like my trout, I mean an incredible, you know person when you combine that with, you know what? He brings to the clubhouse every day you know, on and off the field and then you, you know, you, I JD Martinez, but on top of all of that. And I know that you know, sometimes managers, you know, they get blamed for things managers, credit for things that they maybe don't necessarily deserve. I strongly believe in this situation, that Alex Cora, the impact and the difference he's made on this club is significant, but long with that talent. This is a tough, Boston's a tough market. Things can go awry. You know here in New York, it doesn't take a whole lot. And we've seen that in years past the Red Sox, but along with you know, great talent of great coaching staff. I don't really like to, you know, just keep, but say, you know, praise on a manager or or what have you because the players do have to play, but bus dri- I gotta believe you agreed to extend like Alex Cora has made a significant difference in just the direction, the focus and attention to detail that this club has every day on two percent. And I remember after the World Series asked you're talking about AJ Hinch and telling him, look, the job you did in the American League championship series in the World Series that when your career is over and people write the story of your career, the way you managed in that World Series in that postseason will be right at the top because they had a situation where they're relief. You know, the closer situation was unsettled and so- day in and day out eight. Jay had to find solutions. And he did a remarkable job that all said, you know, and I've basically done all the Red Sox games during this postseason. It's incredible how many of the things that Alex is doing is worked out. For example, last night he starts a young third baseman. Raphael Denver's a left handed hitter against Clayton Kershaw saying, telling Denver's, look, we're going to save you for one spot and when I saw it initially, certainly that's a little bit of surprise. But you know, maybe it was because Kershaw has not. The Kershaw of Oley doesn't throw his hard Denver's standing on the plate. He he looked very comfortable in his bats against Kershaw. He's not going to get blown away and he's waiting for an opportunity where Nunez's against someone like Alex wood, where there might be significant platoon advantage in a way that there wasn't with a Kershaw and he just lying in wait for that to happen, and it pays off his bullpen, moves paid off using. Using all the way has. The lineup choices and then Yankee series. He had that one game where he suddenly put Brock Holt and in the lineup, and he hits cycle. He puts Christian Vasquez into the lineup. He hits a home run. It's incredible like everything he does his work down in this postseason right now. It is perfect marriage of taking the analytics, but then also using the intuition of a baseball man and Alex Cora in making those decisions in terms of processing, the feel the type of bass player has had looking at. You know, the the splits, reverse splits that opposing pitcher had and then kind of, you know, having a feel for what you think. You know, the makeup, your lineup needs to be in order for the guys to come out of the gapes and go, and and there are such things that no matter how. Great. Your your number crunching goes terms of analytics sabermetrics. There still is a need for the human being to be able to have a feel for his players and where they're at right now in this moment. And what's the pulse club and you know, Alex, like you know, many of the really good managers that have been successful in on, especially recently, you know, have that AJ obviously had it last year and he was really willing to roll the dice and your Alex Cora seemed to in his first year. I mean, just, you know, we talked about players at times that you know they get to the big leagues know I think about Kyle Schwab ary a couple of years ago and just talking to him as a rookie in Bougainville coming away and saying, goodness, you, you feel like this guy's been here for seven or eight years. He's just, you know, really settled in. Well, Alex Cora, the same thing with him, you you feel like he's been managing his entire life. Yeah, a hundred percent. There's such a comfort level there and watching that first inning play out after Mookie Betts reaches bass, David freeze. There's a high pop up. I thought you made a great point by the way during the game when you mentioned that he probably during the course that game needed more help from Brian dosier the second baseman. 'cause David freeze a wet track and a night when the ball and Fenway park is blowing all over the place. That's a difficult play in the first inning. A ball falls foul Mookie gets hit and it was like an NFL coach who had a place scripted. Okay. If we get a guy in base, we are going right from the outset. It felt like Alex wanted to set the tone right away. What do you think? Absolutely. I mean, actually it was, you know, it'd be came. You know, I like it it to to sort of an NBA game where all of a sudden team is just running the core running the court and the other teams they gotta take time out slowing down. I mean, that's how the Red Sox game with bets. Boom, first pitch go enforcing the issue. Then Benintendi even with Benintendi, which I don't know how many people recognize that pitch was like as Shane, it seemed like height, but he was swinging. It wasn't a hit and run, but it was. I'm going to try to keep this desert back as long as possible. I'm gonna create a little bit of a distraction because we're on the same page here. We know what we're trying to do, and you don't always see that anymore BUSTER or at least I don't wear the hitter is sync up with the base runner. And you know, is going to try to buy him some time. I remember as a player we my, I might try to square the but pull the, but that's slowly just to keep that catcher back a little bit longer or you might swing it something. Intentionally not trying to hit it, but just buying a little bit more time for that runner with a left hander on the mouth per Sean. He's got that sidestep. That's what was cool to me. See those two guys sync up and it's successful. And then with, you know, Benintendi taking second base on hyper. Oh, coming in. It was like, man, all of a sudden just punch punch trunk. Dodgers have to slow it down quickly and fortunate they were able to do that and and really make it a game for most of the ball game. All right. I want you to listen to something that Chris sale as said last night that really caught my ear give listen, I think. Could you be vision or innings? Ninety nine pitches near groceries, debut happy about it or is the change so much. Say it all the time. When I say to my son, I've never seen ugly one. The name of the game. It's not about me. Obviously, the stat line isn't the prettiest thing. It's not, you know exactly how you draw it up or dream about it, but we got to win. So I'm good to go. So thinking during this postseason and I've seen all the Chris sale starts, he clearly is not right. There's something wrong. He's not the same guy's not throwing his hard. He's not a Sharpe's. Command is not as good, but he basically has made up his mind. You know what I'm gonna do everything I possibly can to help this team win, and I'm not gonna worry about what my pitching looks like. I'm just going to try to help and that I felt it was reflected in those words and has been reflected, and now he's competed in this postseason. What are you seeing him? Yeah, I've always loved Chris sale and you know, we kind of have some ties because we both like socks and you know the times I'd be around a team and you know, just talking to him and go keys keys. Even though their stuff is different. Like there is a similarity to me and former like sex pitcher, Mark Burleigh, and Chris sale in terms of this selfless attitude of going out there and truly competing to help the team win. And I know a lot of people say, yeah, that's what that's what they say about stir, but not everybody. It's really authentic to their core and Burley was a guy for me as a team, like he was the guy that were position player or pitcher everybody wished they really were because he truly went about the game and loved it and had fun, and it wasn't about him. It was almost laughable. Sometimes the success that he would have because he's sitting there and say to himself, man, I don't. I don't really know that. I'm not good. I just went out there and try to win games for the team and Chris sale who's got more talent and more -bility seems to have that same out. Attitude and you knowing that it's not right and in in early. You know, resetting your expectations of yourself? I think it's it makes it even better for a guy like that because he's already got the attitude when he's healthy when he's full strength, I'm going out there. I want to dominate for my team to win when a player then you know, has some type of injury or something it's, you know, keeping them from being their best. You know, you've been more so say, man, I just whatever. If I can just do something tonight to help us win. I know my Swing's not right. I know you know, and my ankle or Miami, I can't get it done. If I can just walk. You're making pinch for me, whatever. And you put it on that than the bigger picture in the bigger. 'cause you you feel good and you can walk away from just like sale said, maybe the line the lines, not impressive, and they came with the w and especially in the postseason. And that's one of the things that I loved as a player when he got to the postseason. All right. My individual stats don't really matter. The only thing. That matters is what can I do to help my team win today? Because that's the only Steph matters if the end of the game. So yeah, I love it. And you know, he's, he's a, he's a great guy, and I hope that you know he's able to bounce back, you know, that was a pretty strenuous outings for him, but bounce back in this series pitch again and and then get right in the off season so that you know he can be full strength in two thousand nineteen. Yeah, and it's amazing in each of the series of Red Sox played. We've talked about Chris sale and his physical state, and is he okay? Well, you know what? It probably will pitch once maybe twice more in this series once in relief and then one more start. If the series goes that far and the Red Sox are in a great position despite what he's not able to do despite the ailment that he has. I gotta say, this is Kurt to me during the postseason I Chris sale and Clayton Kershaw been two of the most dominant starters baseball over the last decade. And part of me, it's been a little sad watching them play because I've enjoyed watching him pitch in dominate so much. And it feels like Singye that those guys that dominant Clayton Kershaw the dominant Chris sale. Those guys might be in the past that we're never going to see those guys be the same. What do you think. Yeah. Well, it's hard to get. It's hard to get velocity back. You know, when you have logged the kind of innings that they have and you know, perhaps the violence in their own way of their there. You know each unique delivery, you know, causes you to lean that way. Now it's one thing for a pitcher that let's say loses velocity over time, but he adjusted, he becomes even finer as Fisher and still is pretty good. But we all are excited by the radar gun when we see the radar gun and nasty stuff. And so that combination for for these two pitchers in in, you know, I think maybe Kershaw little more so than Chris sale as we've seen the velocity really trending dour over the last few years for schol. Yeah, you don't expect to see it. You know, back up there again. Maybe there's a chance, you know, we see, you know some more of that from sale for another, you know, year or two. But yeah, it's it is a little is disappointing and some of the other arms that are out there. It's still can dial it up and excite us like that and whether it's an emerging, Blake style, or you know, perhaps Walker Miller on garner what he's got on. But you gotta get him on winning teams. You know, you have to get him on winning teams so that they're on that bigger stage. So we can really sort of. Just kind of ood it all over how dominant they are. Yeah, Dan Schulman said on your broadcast last night, I thought it was a great point that when Kerr show was at his absolute best, there were a lot of times when the dodgers were not, and now the dodgers have their best team in Clayton Kershaw is not at his best is as he's older, and that was reflected in what happened last night. I wanna make a ask you about all the moves that were made by the dodgers last night. You seen them earlier in the postseason more than I have. By the seventh inning, they were out of position players, and I gotta tell you that some of the moves make me scratch my head and wonder if there's really that much advantage, it's being gleaned with some of these, for example, fifth inning, right hander in the game, and they take out Chris Taylor who is a four sixty seven on base percentage in the postseason and they put in Cody Bellinger again with two outs and the score tied three all is there a big advantage in that later on they pinch hit for David freeze who's been swinging the bat. Well, in this postseason he's one of the great postseason performance of all time he's out. And by the end of the game, they've got us Monte GRANDE all who goes into his plate appearance, seven for seventy in the postseason and he winds up drawn walk. So when that moment it works out. But overall, I think some of it is just, you know, it's paralysis by now asus in. I wonder if there really is a big advantage that. Is necessarily drawn from these things. We're gonna be talking to Sarah lines in the second. She has some numbers suggests that big picture there isn't a lot of advantages of the dodgers are getting out of these pinch hitting moves what you're taking, what you're seeing with, how they're running their their team will. I would say that it's, it's like, you know, Roberts has become a creature of habit. When you look at playing the entire year, and this is the way that you used your lineup. Now and using it BUSTER in a in nationally games really to manipulate the pitcher spot a lot of times. Right. So you get into that mode of using so Bellinger you know, let's say a nationally game he comes in for Chris Taylor, Chris Taylor moves, you know, and he goes into, you know, on on double switch or something like that second base. So you know, watching Roberts do that in the postseason I get it. I mean, if it's there is a lot of flexibility that he has, but I saw mostly, you know, around, you know, manipulating the pitcher spot. So you kept that from being an issue from pitcher having hit now, obviously in the American League park, that's not a concern, but I my guess too that you know, my only thought would be that he's just so used to doing it that it's. Little more of a habit into not make moves would probably make him, you know, he'd probably feel like I'm not managing over here. Yeah, I, you know, I'm I'm really looking forward to our conversation with him today and to get some more insight in that because I you do wonder about the risk of being there in the seventh inning without anybody left on your bench so that if somebody turns an ankle, somebody fouls the ball off shin something, what are you going to do in the World Series in the eighth or ninth inning of a World Series. You're going to walk to the end of the bench and ask Walker bueller can play the outfield. That's a lot of risk, you know. And I don't know. You know, in the end, you wind up trading, Chris Taylor, you wind up trading David freeze out of the lineup, and you wind up the as money Randolph getting significant in Bbatni eighth inning. I kinda don't get it, but we'll see what Dave says later later today about his philosophy with that. All right game too. You have your engine review going for the dodgers. You have David price going for the Red Sox. I was surprised you. I talked about this. I was surprised they didn't tap into to Richhill. The start game. Two is being a Boston. Nate. Live and being someone who went to high school nine miles in Fenway park. And you know it would be an emotional moment for him, but it was fairly clear talking with people yesterday that they believe in engine Rio. Yeah, and we could when I asked Dave yesterday in our meeting and you know his response, I think just, you know, confirmed that that they feel good about the year. I mean, look, you know, in fifteen starts this year and ERA of under two. And obviously he's had, you know, significant time loss from injuries over the last few seasons, but it's clear that you know what he did when healthy, you know, really raise their confidence level. But again, when we talk about teams that look at strongly look at the analytics chino, it's blaring BUSTER at home this year, a one one, five ERA. I mean, that's dominant on the road at three fifty eight. I mean, that's, you know, that's normal, you know in, but that's what that's over. Two runs difference and. Just seeing the the recent history in Milwaukee in that game six. And I know Dave response yesterday was, you know, look like the team was sitting breaking ball and yeah, whether they had as his pitches or whatever. Yeah, they were. I mean, you saw Eric brats, you know, get the front foot down on a breaking ball. I mean, it was. It was pretty clear that these guys reather they knew what was coming or they were just sitting on a certain pitch, but that would concern me a little bit. You know, here's the next start. It's in the World Series. It's on the road. Again, we got the splits factor. We got these other things that to kind of play into it as to why you'd have them start. Now, Dave said, he obviously wants him the potential him starting two games in the World Series, and okay, I get that. But again, I mean you start getting to on the road you star game six on the road. Right. Is that the way the matter how those out. And yeah, I don't. I mean, I don't know, but, hey, that's they always no more. They may know something more than we know. And when I look at some of the the roster decisions, even if they made after the first ground division series, they add Julio reas to the championship series, which was like a head scratcher. And even in our conversations, Dave, I didn't get a strong sense of him totally grasping why reassumes was on the roster instead of Scott Alexander. He had a reason why, but you know, you keep since the difference in conviction when someone answers the question, and then we go back to the world cities now and Kayla Ferguson's off the roster Scott Alexander's on. So you know, they're, they're just been some some moves. And I, I think that. Obviously, there's a lot of influence and direction that comes from upstairs even to the point of last night. Do you remember the move where I said. Was it the Alex, Alex would I can't remember exactly where it was, but I was thinking to myself, they're probably some people upstairs, I think it said on there that are disagreeing with the move that Roberts was making it that time. Right? He he led David freeze bat instead of using Macs Muncie in a spy in in that fifth inning. Yep. Yep. Okay. That's what it was. Yeah. So that's one of those based on what's happened and what I've seen happen this post-season, that's one of those run thinking, you know, Andrew or. And they're probably like, hey, what you know, what are we doing right here? Because that's the kind of stuff that they've done even to the point where I mean, freeze got one at bat in a in a championship series. Game goes were thanks to me where I'm saying, man, pulling these kind of this early. I know council was you know, making his moves, but to to take a guy like David freeze, and he gets one at bat in the game, and then you're going the rest of the distance like really running on fumes in terms of using here bench. Those are things that I didn't grasp. And I guess to your point earlier, that's how it came into play last night slightly different. But when you're a position players, you know, sixth or seventh innings, that's that's an uncomfortable situation to be in. Yeah. And boy, I can't imagine the cast in the questions that would come up if in fact they did lose a position player to injury late and they were scrambling and had the ASCA pitcher to to fill in that spot, especially as you point out in the American League park where you have the designated hitter singing. Thanks for doing this always great to talk with those the park later. Okay, thanks BUSTER. We'll be back in a moment with Sarah lanes, but I there are job sites and make you wait for the right candidates to apply to your job, not smart, but you know, what is smart going to ZipRecruiter dot com slash BUSTER to hire the right person. ZipRecruiter doesn't depend on candidates finding you. It finds them for you. It's powerful matching technology scans, thousands of resumes identifies people the right skills, education experience for your job and actively invites them to apply. So you get qualified candidates fast. That's why ZipRecruiter's rated number one by employers in the US this rating comes from higher. Sights on trust with over thousand reviews. And right now, my listeners can try ZipRecruiter for free at this exclusive web address, ZipRecruiter dot com slash BUSTER. That's ZipRecruiter dot com. Slash BUSTER ZipRecruiter dot com. Slash BUSTER ZipRecruiter, the smartest way to hire numbers game. Sarah Lang's is a researcher free SPN. You see your work on ESPN dot com. You see it on sportscenter CNN on just about every show we do emailing back and forth with Sarah throughout the game, asking questions. She's providing the answers and she's going to be joining us every day of this World Series as she did in two thousand seventeen and Sarah, just watching that game last night. Look the dodgers during the course of the year established, they will send up pinch hitters constantly. They'll constantly try to take advantage of what they think are matchup advantages. And I gotta say some of it doesn't make any sense to me. And you think about how last night's game transpired. In the fifth inning. For example, Chris Taylor due to bat in this postseason four sixty seven on base percentage, and with two outs, they take him out with the score tied to outs. So you're kind of hoping for a bolt of hope there from Cody Bellinger. And So Chris Taylor comes out of the game Bellenger by the way, didn't get ahead not that that's really an important part of this conversation. And then later on they take David free. So of course is hit well in his postseason is one of the great postseason performers of all time and they're out of position players by the seventh inning and late in the game to have his Monte GRANDE doll batting seven for seventy in the postseason going into the plate appearance and he drew a walk. But again, I I'm not really focused on the results in the moment, but big picture. A lot of it doesn't make sense to me, especially when you consider the risks that they were in from the seventh inning of any player gets hurt. Heard they gotta go tap on the shoulder of someone like Walker bueller and ask him if he wants to play the outfield. I kind of don't get some of this and it feels like they're making chess moves just to make him, what do you think? Yeah, it really felt like one of those situations that you kind of hear people talk about where the computer told him to do it. So you just did it because of so for that. And you know, obviously I'm a huge proponent of number, but there's numbers for everything. And there did not seem to be numbers to support those moves. So well, we were talking about earlier, so dodgers pinch hitters in the regular season hit two thirty eight the three thirty nine on base in three ninety. Three slugging percentage dodgers non pinch hitter position players. So taking pictures out of the question to hit two fifty, eight, three forty one, four sixty one in the regular season. So it just seemed like a better option to keep those guys in there. And the thing that really stood out to me is that it feels like Dave Roberts got kind of exposed in this game. I mean, we've seen all postseason that I'll core has made these right move. Some of them we scratched our heads and then they worked out. And it water looney as right that home run. I mean, that's the complete opposite end of the spectrum. He pinch hit Nunez era, people do. We need Nunez here and he hits a three run home pinch, hit home run. So I just I don't understand why the dodgers were playing that game the way they were to be out of position players that early did not did not make sense to me. Yeah. What those numbers say is is that even during the regular season when they were hunting those theoretical matchup advantages, those are not reflected in the results. It's not like they killing it with their pinch hitters. If you can again read their pinch-hitter numbers from the regular season, the numbers that they're pinch hitters generated with their manager, theoretically looking for favourable matchups yeah, they hit two thirty eight with a three thirty nine on base in three ninety three slugging percentage, which is that grit or option? No, I kinda don't get it. All right. Let's play the numbers game number three. Number three. Five. So Manny, Machado has five career home runs against David price tied for his most against any pitcher. He also has five DC Sobat, and it's prices. Third-most allowed to any single better maternal hit a home, run his most recent play appearance against price and the nights inning on bay seventeen Fenway park. It was to out in the ninth one runner on price was one out from shutout gave up that home run to Machado and then got the next out. So we got the complete game enough. The shut up. Number two. Number two is forty, two percent. So prices change at forty two percent of the time in ale CS game five, which was by far his best postseason start. It was his highest for changeup usage in any start of his career, including the playoffs that was went over ten in bath, ending on the pitch. Daughter hit two, fifty three against changeups from less days this season, which was fifteen in the major so he could be able to shut them down with that number. One number one is fifty percent to the Red Sox scored thirty two of their sixty. Four runs as postseason with two outs that's fifty percent of their runs as postseason. They scored thirty eight percent of their runs with two outside the regular season. I think that's just so much fun of you know pressure's, hi, there you are and you're hitting better with two outs that's to me. That's a team that is going to have a lot of success here in few days. And that's what we've been hearing from opposing teams. They find the approach of the Red Sox hitters to be remarkable, their ability to stay the state fundamentally sound and take the ball through the middle of the field opposite field, and that has paid off them constantly in this postseason Sarah, thanks for doing this. I hope you get an opportunity to get some sleep on the travel day. Thank you. Thanks for having me. It's a normal day. You're rushing out the door to get to work on time when suddenly there it is the dreaded service light. So what does it this time, tire pressure, low coolant time for an oil change. When it comes to service lights, head to jiffy lube, we've got you covered drive in today and make the switch to Pennzoil ask for Pennzoil synthetics getting you back on the road in a jiffy. Jiffy lube, leave worry behind. Recess guns is a slugger for the Philadelphia Phillies and research. I remember the first time we talked to you on the podcast last year. I walked away telling friends. Okay, rescan someday he's going to be doing what we do like I'm gonna lose my job eventually Reese Hoskins. Because you have a great knowledge. You have a great way of describing what you see and you're your big sports fan and the World Series going on right now. So want to tap into some of that and ask you about what we're seeing in the Boston. Red Sox. Tell me is a hitter is someone who knows a lot better than I ever would what you see in the Red Sox lineup in their offensive approach. I think we're seeing from them what as in a general sense, whatever team is is trying to do is striving to do throughout the game, their approach. I think to to grind down pitchers and get into teams bullpens, especially in a seven game series like this. If you can get into bullpens early. I think that pays a lot of dividends you know, later in the series. So my guess is that we'll see that, but they're not afraid to hit with two strikes. They're okay with taking pitchers pitches early in counts in hopes to get a mistake later, you've probably going to get one, maybe two mistakes in a bat. And when they're getting those those mistakes, they're not missing. Obviously, there they got some pretty prevalent hitters throughout the whole lineup. You know, you got guys like Nunes last night coming off the bench, that guy would be playing on most most teams in baseball. So there's a lot of depth there. There's no break for the opposing pitchers at all. I think we've heard the word relentless quite a bit about this offense, and I think that's exactly they. They don't quit. There's no break for the pitcher. It's it's fun to watch as a hitter, but it's it's not fun to play against. Yeah. When they played the Astros they're facing Dallas kaikal you know, who doesn't throw that hard a left-hander and it was remarkable to me in two thousand eighteen to see a team where you have a team, go into the game with a plan to take the ball through the middle of the field takes the opposite field and execute that plan against Kershaw last night. It felt like the same sort of thing and the ringleader of all that for talking to Red Sox, people seem to be JD. Martinez who's walked in there really instilled in the an idea and the players. Look, we're gonna come up with a plan every day. We're going to follow the plan. Tell me in your eyes, what distinguishes JD Martinez is a hit or when he's at the plate. You know, obviously he's very intelligent. I think there's been a lot made of that throughout the last couple seasons. I think more specifically this season with him just being on a new team. I think JD you always see him looking at video of his swing. He's a very mechanical hitter and that works for him. I've heard a quote about him are it doesn't doesn't. Him if he feels great, feels terrible as long as the mechanics of his swing work. He is confident in the box. I think he. He is mastered his swing and he knows the intricacies of every detail and every movement in his swing. So if he takes a bad swing or if he doesn't get a result that he wants the the balls hooked or top spun instead of back-spun he knows exactly how to fix that and what to do, which is why I think he's been one of the most consistent hitters. You know, throughout the last couple of years, and then you couple that with the intelligence in a box, the ability to be stubborn to an approach like you talked about how he's kind of brought that. I think in its rubbed off on the rest of the guys in the lineup. And you saw the results really all year. Tell me what you see in Mookie. Betts. It will probably is going to be the American League MVP. Yeah, it's it's a special talent. You know, not only in the box but on the base pass. I think last night he stole that bag and it kinda really kick things off. I think for. That all offense, what he does in the field, you know, in the I think it was game four in Houston. When he made that play on Tony camp down the line, twenty counts on the fastest guys in the league and Mookie nails him for a big out in the ninth inning. So guy just does the impacts the game in so many different ways all over the baseball field, which I think is why he's going to be the MVP, but I think he is hungry. I, I read an article, I think at the beginning of this year where he doesn't think he's as good as he is, which is hard to believe. But to me, it seems like he's always working and he's really taken to JD Martinez, and I think you see that with how consistent he's been this year. I don't remember ever a time. I know he's the numbers, aren't there in the postseason, but you saw last night how he can impact game. I don't ever remember a time where he seemed to go an prolonged slump or he didn't seem to be there kind of disappeared. And I think that's really what separate. That's great players from good players. Yeah. And in his mind, he's always in his slump. I can tell you that I remember hearing a story from his teammates a couple years ago in which is having a decent season, but he didn't just didn't feel right. And so during the all star break, he went back to Nashville at home. It was hitting in a cage. They're trying to find that feeling trying to get better even during a time when the when players were down, I want to ask you generally in this is a general question because I gotta tell you in watching the games in the postseason so many changes and shitting appearances for position players changes with the pitchers part of me, and I get that they're the analytics behind it and all these decisions are numbers. Backing them up. But part of me wishes you just let the players play you is a baseball fan. How do you feel watching all the changes? Well, I think I think there's definitely a spy in the game for analytics. I think that information. I mean, people say analytics. I think generally just means information and data. There is a lot of it out there, and a lot of it can be used to help teams to help individual guys become more aware of what they do. Well, what they don't do well really just putting them in the best possible position to succeed as many times as they can. I think, especially in the postseason you're seeing a lot of changes. There's a little bit of that. I'm gonna leave. No stone unturned mentality. I think from some of the managers that we don't, we don't have tomorrow, you know, I think you have to go for the kill shot every every night in the postseason. We saw that last night. I think both teams emptied their benches. You know, yanked their starters pretty early two guys that I'm are some of the best left-hand pitchers that have ever played this game. But I think that's what happens in the postseason and obviously. Core seemed to make every right move last night. But the beautiful thing about baseball is if you make those moves against an, they might not work out. Exactly right. The context changes every day, so much conversation over the last couple years about the free agent class of two thousand eighteen thousand nineteen. So much speculation from knuckleheads like me about the Phillies in how much flexibility they have to spend. Are you looking forward to this? You know, when we start talking about guys like Bryce Harper, like Manny Machado to see who's going to be in the clubhouse with you in spring training? Yeah, I'm excited. I definitely am. I think you know, especially when you start talking about free agents, you're talking about guys that you're going to be around for five, six, seven, potentially ten years if we get the opportunity to play that long. So I'm more excited to see. You know what the dynamic of our clubhouse is going to be like, obviously everybody out there is good baseball players. That's why they're free agents. That's why teams want them. But I'm just excited to see what the the dynamic of the clubhouse is going to be like in spring training. Get a headstart on on building that chemistry. And hopefully that translates to two more wins out on the field. He needed find that a little bit more. In other words, what what do you mean specifically about sort of what dynamics are just, you know how, how, how guys react to certain guys, just figuring out what makes certain guys tick. I think you need time to do that. You know when what, what do guys need when they might find themselves in a row? What do they need when they're going really well? Do they need anything? Just little things like that that come with time and and being around each other. I think there's going to be some change in the offseason specifically for us with the Phillies. So that time is going to be very valuable. Right. Before we go, when I ask you about watching Aaron Nola this year, we'll see how the Cy Young voting turns out, but it really feels like he went next level. Yeah, you know. He's special. I think a lot of one of the things that separates him from not most, but some other guys I think across the league is all the things that fans don't get to see all the stuff that goes on. You know, the the six, seven hours before his star, all the stuff that goes on between starts, the guy is cemented in his routine and it works. He knows what to do to get himself the most comfortable that he can be, you know, leading up to start during his start. He's figured that out. And I think one thing that's been oppressive to me is that's changed and he's been open to change, but he pitched this year and it was man. I'm glad he's. He's wearing the red pinstripes. I would never wanna face Reagan ball if I don't have to, I'll have to stand in in on it during spring training and act like I'm taking. Live EP, but I'll just, I'll watch that one. It's he's got some some, obviously, some electric stuff and he's only learning how to pitch. So I don't see why it's not going to get better. All right. Well, Reese, I appreciate you doing this. Thanks for stopping by. Thanks for jumping into the numbers. Valuating millions of leases beta tonight the Cincinnati by do hybrid flights by. This is hembo nose. Paul indicators is hembo and he's a researcher forty SPN. He's the backbone of the show, get up and hembo you prepare topics force every week, but I, I want to sort of throw the topic of the day at you. We were watching the dodgers last night empty out their bench. They're out of position players by the seventh inning. And I gotta say when we got to the eighth inning and his Monte grant all is batting David freezing, Chris Taylor sitting on the bench Taylor who's perform wellness postseason David freeze with his history. Some of it I just it makes me scratch my head. I gotta be honest, you know, numbers a lot better than I do. How did you feel about watching that last night? It's baseball in two thousand eighteen. I think we're gonna. See managers make the same decisions across the board. That's one of the reasons why I thought the the Astros won the World Series last year is because AJ Hinch did not overmanned it. So sometimes the numbers obviously dictate the decision making processes all these miniatures. And for good reason. But you also have to consider that leverage will be a component of of all these games throughout the later innings. Also in depleting your bench and depleting your bullpen. Early in games and early in the series could be very detrimental. All right. Let's talk about the dodgers pitching. So the Red Sox teed off against Clinton Kershaw in game one, which has become an all too common postseason referring BUSTER. He's alive five or more runs. Now in thirty, five percent of his career starts in the playoffs nearly four times more frequently than he has in the regular season. So it seems every time that he's exercised, his postseason demons, he goes, he gives us a reason to doubt again, but it was Dave Roberts, bullpen usage that was the bigger story and game run. Obviously bringing it, Alex would though Pedro Byas was rolling BUSTER bias had not allowed a hit to a left handed batter since July, the twenty sixth left. These are owed for thirty one with eleven strikeouts against him since that date while. Like I get, I get the platoon advantage, I do, but we saw him strike out Mitch, Moreland, five minutes ago. He hasn't allowed to hit to a left the three or four months. I don't get it. I just don't get it. Right? Talk about the dodgers trailing in the series. So despite losing game, one recent history suggests that we should not be county out the dodgers by any stretch of the imagination in the last two postseasons BUSTER l. a. four, no. When trailing in a series at any point with a team area of one point, five, eight in those games. Two of those games came in the last few years against Milwaukee, the other two in the World Series last year against the Astros. So Dave Roberts group is nothing if not resilient. Let's take a look back at the nineteen sixteen World Series. The last time the rook l'an franchise. The dodgers the franchise. In the dodgers had one hundred thirteen previous chances to meet in the World Series. But only that Owen says, you said, way back in nineteen sixteen the dodgers were forty two years away from moving to Los Angeles, and we're then known as the Brooklyn Robins as you noted in honor in honor of manager, Wilbert Robinson, the New York Times once wrote of him, he knew baseball. The spotted setter knows the secrets of quail hunting by instinct and experience, and I'm not sure they've Robert or Alex Cora I've ever been described and that way. So we have, we have game two tonight and game two of that series of twenty one year old, Babe, Ruth pitched. He threw fourteen innings of one run ball BUSTER, and by game score, it remains the best pitch game in World Series history. The only run hill out was an inside the park Homer in the first inning, because Harry Hooper and Tilly Walker both slipped in the outfield. I really feel like that Josh was trying to throw you off during your segment him, but what do you think. There was a lot. There was a lot of commotion but only appropriate if we're going back a hundred years might as well make it feel like that for our listeners. Well, and you know the mantra for managers back when Babe Ruth was pitching never let a pitcher face a lineup of six times through the. No, no, no risk of over managing that game. Fourteen innings lasted two hours and thirty two minutes. If we played fourteen innings today, I think that game would go on for three days. We're marketable, handball. Thanks for doing this later boys. Bleacher tweets, first tweets on this Wednesday morning muster from Dave crop at crop, David says, who is the bigger winner in hindsight, at this year's deadline, was it the dodgers when they acquired Manny Machado? Or was it the Red Sox when they acquired Nathan evolved e. You know if that's a really good question and look Nathan of all the Red Sox wind up winning the World Series. We're going to look back and evolved. He played a pivotal role. I don't think the dodgers are in the World Series if they don't acquire Manny, Machado, losing Cory Seager was a huge blow to that team early in the year in Manny, Machado maybe hasn't been as impactful as we necessarily thought that he was going to be for the dodgers. But he's been at the very least has been solid and we've seen them in the postseason he can make a difference in big moments evolved is a really nice piece. Machado difference maker absolutely up. Brian see role is next. He's at odyssey art torch says. It's strange to think this about a hundred win team, but I feel like the Yankees actually underperformed this year looking at individuals stat lines, it doesn't seem like most guys played up to the projections and do har- Torres. Excluded in my crazy. And thinking that. I don't know, Brian, I look, you went one hundred games and you're in the same division is what looks to be the best team in baseball. That's a pretty good season and I understand going into the year, we expected a lot of numbers at Stanton. I think we were talking in spring training about standing judge hitting one hundred and home run. One hundred home runs between them, judge wound up, getting hurt. If judge doesn't get hurt. That team went one hundred and five games. Like that's a really good season. That's a really good team. And I think Luis Severino was still learning about being consistent. I think Stanton will be more comfortable in the second year. I can't say that they didn't perform well when you win almost two-thirds of your game. No, you can't say one hundred wins means you didn't underwrite. Well, let's let's be real here against the Orioles. I'd say this the one that that was the one thing they did not take advantage of their games against the Orioles, and some of the other worst teams in the American League that is absolutely accurate bus driver feeling you're gonna. Hate this next question. It comes to us from Tim mcglaughlin. Tim says, with the way major league teams are using pitchers, would it not be wise for little league, Babe, Ruth in high school coaches to start changing out, pitchers each inning. It would save young arms and prepare them for the way pitchers are likely to be used if and when they get to the big leagues, Tim, I liked the logic behind it. I liked the idea protecting the players arms, but you've been around youth baseball teams, and so by how many pitchers can actually throw strike, imagine trying to go down to like a little league team and try to find a six or seven guy could put the ball over the played. Good luck with that. Because what I remember I remember is if you find four or five guys who can throw strikes, you have a deep staff. And if that ends up happening, get ready for a five hour Babe, Ruth league game. And while the parents would really enjoy that finally bus, we have this one from the starting block says, if you're the brewers, how long until you call the giants asking about what the price might be for Madison Bumgarner? It just feels like not having that one starter to get deep into games ended up hurting Milwaukee over a seven game series. What say you? I don't think that a small market, middle market team can make a trade for a guy like Bumgarner. I think it's got to be a big market team like the Red Sox getting sale from the White Sox because you have the resources you have the ability to fill in the gaps because you have extra cash and you can spend on free agents the way in a way that the brewers can't. And so if you're the brewers, you're not gonna pay retail price for a guy like that. I think it's more likely that a team like the Yankees would pay retail price and given that answer, Josh, I thought about this. It really tells you how much the brewers fleece the Marlins and that yellow. Trade because you think about it. It's so rare that you get a mid market team, make a big move like that for an established player, big multi-player trade. When you're trying to protect resources, it tells you probably the moral and should have asked more questions about what they're getting in return the Marlins mismanages situation. Is that what you're saying? No. Cal. Interesting hadn't heard that before. Keep the questions coming for the rest of the season use the hashtag bleach or tweets. That's it for today might thanks Sarah, laying the Paul in bikinis to reach Hoskins, Chris singleton to Josh macrey and Alex Cora for throwing us under the bus. No, I'm just kidding. It was very nice that he mentioned, Tim, thanks for listening. Have a great day. Everybody for listening to the baseball tonight podcast. If you're playing baseball, don't forget to listen to the fantasy focus podcast checkout all podcasts at ESPN dot com. Slash pod center baseball, ten night. The podcast.

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Also, you can hear me say, words like terms and conditions, limited time or courtesy trucks. Joe. There are talkers and their doors timberland pro work. Apparel and footwear always do never done is the Dan lebatardshow with stugatz podcasts. This time. Yeah, she'll league wearing goggles and holding beers kept his shirt on, but his tongue was out extra yard sale, plead thundering through the playoffs with personality. Yes, the plea daring you in the postseason when it matters when no one can get on base to throw it at him, here's your plea who left Milwaukee out of his original. Let's go first to the original Scarface fon where he was shirtless and gold chain wearing, and he told everybody that the playoffs are the time for him. Hey, I see you soon baby and then as lachey Kabul Colorado, no matter who going, we go and beat and we've gone through wolf city. I king and these time we're going to wing that. We'll say, who. That'd be funny in the fungus told zone, maybe what I winning. Oh man, he's got his shirt off. You've got the gold chain, and now he's appear. You may have heard the Milwaukee was left out of that Milwaukee. Very strong team. I think Stu gods said yesterday they have that feel whatever that means they have that looked at walk gamma, put it on the poll, what's better. Having that look a team, having that look or a team having that field. But this is the the sound courtesy of spectrum sports net LA. He kept Milwaukee out of his mouth last time. But now that he told Atlanta who's going to run through them and he did run through them, hey, Milwaukee's got something for you to, hey, last science. Right here. The masters. People are coming from behind, you'll see you promised to win over the Braves, hey, now beginnings down to goes. That's right. I see you may working see you so may wagging. I see you Friday, we're going. You buy. Oh, you buy. Doing. He also said that we didn't have that sound. We're going to beat Milwaukee to four games, four games. He also had no RBI's. Just letting you know, didn't you miss a game injured as well. Thanks for hashtag. Just saying it's important. Neuter this wonderful sound of this baseball player who's just taking everyone out. I think the sound is enhanced. When you we hear a guy talk of the way he's talking without really contributing. I think it's awesome. Well, let me ask this of you guys, Greg. Cody of the Miami Herald in with us as he is every Tuesday, Mitch Albom going to join us at twelve thirty eastern. And I want to get into a couple of different things from the baseball games. One angel Hernandez, a blight upon my people. I mean, this guy. It's still up to this guy l. e. still doing this. Some Pires still out here doing this and and God's were saying that David freeze David freeze it what other name is always around your playoff baseball. Like what? What name from the nineties? Can you go to where it didn't matter? The team? He was on. You looked up and, hey, how's this guy in the postseason again, David freeze is this year's candidate, whatever. There's a big playoff series being played. David freeze is playing in it and he's making big contributions. I had no idea until yesterday. He was playing for the dodgers. No idea to RV is for freeze, which is to more than Yossi yelp week by the way, Burland her ver- Landers always there for somebody. Nine hundred sixty miles an hour, the great one. But when it comes to I'd like to go with ninety guys though. Are we all going to go there? We all just gonna go guys like Brosius and we SoHo. Is that what it's going to end up becoming? I think so trying to think of the other dominant baseball teams in the nineties regardless. We'll get back to it. But yes, he'll plead is being honest and public, and we were talking about this yesterday and I'm curious what you guys think of this. So Dell Beckham and this is it's just wonderful. We played for you the sound yesterday and to get you caught up again, we'll get this Pat. Shurmur sound. It's the most interesting Pat Shurmur sound in the history of pet Shurmur. He came out of his press conference came out for it, and it was just like, what? What? What are you guys want? What? And he's mad because there there has not been a larger generational and cultural divide in the history of sports than the one between that guy and the one between the guy doing that interview sitting next a little way in terms of divide of those people will not understand each other for the remainder of time. They will have no connection point, right? None. So here is the Shurmur sound because I want to talk to you guys about honesty and and when we want honesty from athletes and how we want honesty from athletes. So let's play. This is just Shurmur reacting to Dell Beckham basically being honest about, look, my quarterback is I don't know what's happening there, but I'm not getting as many chances as I should get. And this made Pat Shurmur crazy going to answer all the drama questions right now, and I'm gonna go back to what I said. All right. I addressed it with Odell. I addressed it with our team. I publicly declared that I didn't agree with his comments and I asked anybody that was interested if they wanted clarification go to Dell because he's a big man. Now I'm not going to give the public account of flesh on this right? That would make me small, not strong. And these are the kind of things in my opinion. When you have the locker room that we have that will help galvanize them because the locker room took care of it. And that's all I'm saying on it for Nico done. Let's talk football, not drama. Though though. What do you think there? What do you think they're code? Whose side are you on? I give del Beckham credit for just being brutally honest and sort of saying out loud what a lot of giants fans and would a lot of NFL fans have been thinking for a few years now about ally manning. The thing is though normally you hear that as a parting shot, you know, you hear Landry sniping about Tanta hill once he leaves for Cleveland, not while he's still in Miami. Well, this is the part I find. Interesting, right. In sports. The moral thing to do is lie. That's what we ask of the athlete of the coach. We don't want honesty the moral thing for the guy and who plays a team sport to do as lie. And the part about that that is exasperated to me is someone who loves sports and loves that sport in particular, I get it. I get it. Your wife is getting ready for a night out. She asks you if she looks fatness dress, what do you do? You go with the morality of honesty or do you just let it go because you don't want to hurt anybody's feelings? It also depends on how you want the night to end. I mean, okay. Stugatz always with an agenda. Never answering the question on behalf of anyone else. It's just how does it affect me at the end of the night. That's always where he'd default ULA. Great baby. Shurmur reaction to this. I think as another layer to it because his offense as an exactly take shots, and he's now running the offense in New York and that twenty-five that twenty seven yard touchdown pass through to saquon. Barkley was the first touchdown through the air over twenty five yards since the giants have had since week, five of last year's now that includes the previous regime. But I think Shurmur here's that and he's always taking shots at my offense because this quarterback is going down here. I understand that frustration. I've heard that stat a number of times by the lamenting not throwing downfield. I just remind you that he wanted to Super Bowls with two ridiculous absurd throws downfield, but he's older now. I know. I know I'm not saying not wash, but I want to get into the idea of what I just said. Do you most of us would say, right? You're in a relationship with a woman and you're about to go to the gal of the party wherever and she tells you and there's no time to change. There's no time to change that. She's not feeling that she looks good. Do you li- or do you tell the truth in many instances when people are asked, when do you lie to protect the feelings of others? But the part that I find funny about this is the idea of comparing the NFL locker room to your wife in address that makes her look heavy. Like the part of jetting to is the idea that lying is the moral thing to do because these men can't handle you getting up in their feelings about their performance publicly. That's crazy to me. Look at what they're doing for a living. Can't handle a little bit. No Shurmur is telling you they can handle at Shurmur tells you that locker room will handle it. They'll take care of it. However it needs to get taken care of well, then why the giants upset wise, the media relations wanted. One in four, and I'll tell you sometimes players and the media relations staffs. They will drive you crazy and Pat Hanlin I love you, but I'm sorry. Okay. The fact that he SPN went directly though Beckham junior is probably because you wouldn't provide them with Dow Beckham junior who clearly wanted to say stuff and that's okay. It should be okay. Didn't with you in the NFL it should be okay. If Odal Beckham junior, your best player wants to get it off his chest, that the offense is lousy through God's. There are a number of different people in this equation that you speak of who are doing their job. The public relations staffs job is to make sure that doesn't happen. I understand why they're manned, but the media relations if Odell wants to speak and he tells them, I want to let them spe Kate, fine. But again, these are people doing their job why you would call them out by name when they've been nothing but helpful to you over the years is weird to me, Pat hands the best of the best. Mike is not. I mean, Pat Hanlin is the. For no reason. I just said with all due respect to Pat Hanlin. I mean, I love the guy. The giants on Twitter. I mean game day everyday is the best the best media relations guy going here. MO. Put it on the polls pad handling the best is got us Odell Beckham ones. Right? We had to use Jarvis Landry to ghetto del Beckham, junior rom, but Pat Hanlin came through. That my name is Lauren. I'm thirty three. I didn't want my identity to be the smoking mom. My first experience with jewel I do remember being like this, it's good, it's it's, it's like a cigarette, but not. I don't miss smoking at all. Like I can officially say it grosses me out jewel is the tobacco alternative that delivers nicotine satisfaction without cigarette Asher lingering odor make the switch and j. l. dot com. Slash sports warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical donlevatar, Greg, Cody of the Miami Herald has announced that we are the biggest and best radio show in America on Tuesdays stugatz you're welcome. These live at our show with Stu gods on ESPN. Radio need game tickets on your seats at vivid seats. The official ticket partner of ESPN enter promo code ESPN at checkout and receive ten percents off your order. Today, vivid seats, Greg Cody given a straight talk is brought to you by straight talk wireless, best phones, best networks, no contracts game. Oh, please put this on. The poll is Sasha, baron Cohen, a genius. I caught up some on these who is America show on Showtime, and it is uncomfortably wonderful. Like this guy is so bleeping good at creating awkward uncomfortable uproariously funny television for everyone involved except the person who's on his knees, simulating things. He didn't mean to simulate while thinking that he is taking a training class on how to disarm a terrorist. The next thing you know, I've got a plastic thing in his mouth and he's screaming screaming, I've got enough room in here for two of these. I find myself laughing about that show. Well, after I had actually experienced it because some of the stuff in that shows just so jar, it's. Wildly uncomfortable. I can't believe he gets away with some of the stuff that he gets away with. He's always walking on the line, but the thing that I can't believe more than anything is how the hell he stays in character because some of the things that happen with whatever extremists he's decide decided to go after because he he's equal opportunity. He'll get anyone. He's looking for political suckers. He does not care what what their denominations are. He does not care anything about what the politics is. He just looking to embarrass people who take themselves seriously. It's it's fun to watch people fall into the trap because you know they're going to. So it's it's just a Larry's you're waiting for waiting and waiting art sooner or later. They're going to be embarrassed in a way that costs them their career that makes them issue a statement tomorrow. Who else? What does he compared to in comedy? When people are pioneers? You know, it's Andy Kaufman. It's Richard Pryor. It's Dave Chapelle when people are pioneering in the comedy realms, Louis CK was doing it for a while. What is it like? Who else is out there doing this kind of work funnier. Di was the guys who did funnier die. Okay. They they started between two ferns. They did a bunch of creative stuff. They got presidential candidates to sit for spoofs next to Zach galifianakis, and they've parlayed that into their doing succession. Now they, they can. Basically those guys can do whatever they want in Hollywood will Ferrell and Adam McKay it seems like they can take over those projects because of what they've created. Who else is doing that? Nobody's doing what Sasha baron Cohen is doing. Nobody. Nobody attempts it, nobody tries it, but who's doing something close some someone that's doing something close as actually working with Sasha baron Cohen on that show and it's Nathan field there. He doesn't a brilliant show on comedy central called Nathan for you. He was brought on as a writer on who is America. He does a similar thing only he's not wearing prosthetics and he's not creating these alter egos for much of his show. He's joke as opposed to the person that they're pranking and it's just these situation. Nations. He can Cox, it's such a great Evelyn of the punk shows like he's not doing the candid camera shows the reality TV shows with the with the perfect foil, a guy who every time he's in makeup legitimately doesn't look like Sasha baron Cohen. So it's the audience knows but not the person being interviewed. You love this show right Cody. Oh yeah, my wife and I consider it a must see. He v, we look forward to it particularly if if the people he spoofing are prominent and we know that this is going to explode in their face in a way that becomes news, which it often does to me. Andy Kaufman is the closest example of somebody who just did mind-blowing comedy where you're like this guy for real, is he serious? What's what's going on here? There was a comedian who never as doing it now, Tom green doesn't did that a little bit. Is anybody remember him? Brain grain. Yes, he did that. Andy dick did a little of it also flamed out. I want to talk about what happened last night in the Monday night game because we've talked before about how sports talk radio is not conducive to simply celebrating excellence. What do you say about drew Brees after you say, hey, victory for short guys, everywhere he overachieved. I would take inventory of the fact that the best quarterbacks in your league Russell Wilson drew Brees Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady everyone missed on all of them like they were available to everybody and everyone missed right. Braise was available to the dolphins twice and and I do think that that's instructive though, as you see all these, all these coaches who frayed to go for them. Fourth, in short, it's not surprising that they are also conservative when they get to merely competent quarterback with Andy, Dalton or with Ryan tannehill or with Alex Smith where they're like, okay, I'll go this. This is enough. Tough. It's not incompetent. So they're just playing it safe. It's just a it is throughout that league. Everyone is playing it safe at the at the above, labor, right above labor. Everyone is is being very careful shape except for the Rams and Andy Reid who probably deserves coach of the year by just making that just got making the decision horrible. We give Harpo so much credit over credit him as a coach because he simply had what we called the the balls to replace Alex Smith with Colin Kaepernick. Wait a second. There seems to be a common thread here. Listen to this, Mike. Listen to this. I'm so frustrated yesterday or Sunday when I'm watching Jared, goff's sneak for like half a yard after their time, timeouts and the boy wonders trying to figure out why pun here. And then they sneak for half a yard and the announcers go crazy with the courage of the call. And I'm like, come on man on talking with many yesterday. What does the quarterback seek fail? Never fails. Don't courageous of the coach. Ed horse you're on only needed was a sneak against the Gators now let me put feet out on the field. I wanna put. I wanted to decide games with my kickers. Are you say you can always get it inch? Is that what you're saying? Because I feel like Peyton Manning, it failed a couple of times I do. I remember like big spots where failed for Peyton Manning, Tom Brady gets two and a half yards a quarterback every time falls forward. Think about what we're saying though, these tough guy coaches, man, the Jerry Jones. One is fascinating. We've got an owner in sports with such a puppet for a coach that he has no issue whatsoever. Questioning calls after in his own press conference after game. Oh, you have to hear after the break, this incredible will Cain sound. Were he nails the Cowboys arosh that's a tease baby. That's a donlevatar he has the dolphin grade is football team. We take the ball from goal to go like no one's ever seen where in the we're on the ground where always in control. And when you say Miami, you're talking Super Bowl stugatz where the Miami Dolphins, everybody, Miami Dolphins, Miami Dolphins. Number one. The Miami Dolphins. Oh, good. Ruin the song. Feeling joy. Yeah, wrong lyrics. Find these labor tar show with this two guys on ESPN radio over the weekend. Some of the lamest beef ever to appear made an appearance in college football when Paul Johnson ran up the score on Louisville because he's still mad from twenty years ago that somebody dared blaspheme against the option offense. So six yards at a time with nothing but running plays. Paul Johnson ran up the score. Amish offense and Louisville sitting there already down twenty. And here comes. Another wagon filled with Paul. Johnson, rushing attempts on old ragging led by horses. Lancer the full bag land or. He's got lead bump blockers, and they both have lanterns because this often does not use electricity Johnson pass man. Quarterback in a game in which they scored sixty six points was one of two. They're always going to bite on that fullback dive always gonna fight on it. We'll pass man. So lucky that a program in Atlanta's just decided to do this because it's such a hotbed for recruiting. So thank you for taking Georgia Tech out of the equation. They ran for five hundred forty two yards CMO put it on the poll, please your loud to run up the score. If you throw to passes. Even running up the score. Like I mean, that's so demoralizing. If you're Louisville men and not even beating through the air, it is exasperated and that's why he stays employments. The reason that Georgia Tech, which once had Calvin Johnson has been running this offense since then since running off Chan Gailey this Paul Johnson is a Georgia Tech fixture because he can run up the score with one for two passing literally running and and and as an added bonus, nobody in the world wants to play them ever 'cause they're not gonna win anything. They're not going to be the champions of anything, but on one weekend, your defense can be really confused like it's like facing knuckleball. Like what the hell is this. I can date Nebraska USA run the option offense because they weren't given the same sort of recruits limited to a base, and that was what was going on and all the high schools. This is a school in Atlanta. With arguably the fourth best recruiting base in the country. Paul Johnson, Greg, cody's back in my day is going to be here today. Eleven am in half hour. We will hear from Greg Cody and his back in my day, but you realize that Paul Johnson is Greg Cody of offense. He's like, I don't need your newfangled throwing the ball downfield. I'm fine. You know, just using remedial means yes. And the only time I will toss the football anywhere is if I'm flipping it while about to be tackled to my running back, let's this forward pass nonsense, man. I hate it when their quarterback does the fake pitch how you're supposed to south that how are you supposed to stop the fat man? I'm telling you, Mike, I don't understand why this is the part. The part I don't get is why can't they also find someone who throws now? Maybe it's not that easy. They're not looking for. Wait a minute, took Nick saving a long time, but he's found it. Now he's found that you're. Telling me there's not a guy who can do both of those things. Why is there not a guy who can run that offense and also occasionally throw the ball other than that navy quarterback from a couple of years. But if I could throw the ball, why. Go, if you realize what a juggernaut would've spaceship they would be if they could just figure out the forward past patch twenty two though, because then that quarterback becomes way too valuable to be running out, right? And Paul Johnson doesn't want that because it's all about Paul Johnson, but if you're a five star quarterback recruit what he Paul Johnson says, hey, listen, I swear, we're gonna throw the ball twenty five times a game. You're gonna believe them because I'm not. I'm just saying you can also play that way and throw out of it. Like my guess is that will open some things up. If you're softening defense all game with seven yards. A carry, my guess is at some point, the secondary might allow some openings on play actually had sixty six points. What else softens up at defense, a fullback dive. Just tend to rising Johnson just called plays that are just meet, tend to rising coming up. Next. You are not gonna believe this will Cain sound. Make me bicycle clown. I'm sorry, Mike, but when a Paul Johnson beef makes its way into your life. Everything that you thought was true has to hold on for a second. Some guy, Brad steward in that game had one catch for twelve yards. The only catch do you think that put them top five in Georgia Tech history in terms of receiving your if you have a birthday or an anniversary, special occasion, speaking of which we do have birthday out here, get the get the Stephen, a Smith here, happy thirty third birthday to incompetent. Executive producer, Mike, Ryan. Happy birthday to him. I don't care. Good luck support for the Dan lebatardshow podcasts comes friends at rocket mortgage by Quicken Loans. 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Slash Stu gods rate shield approval only valid on certain thirty year purchase transactions. Additional conditions or exclusions may apply based on quickenloans data in comparison to public data records equal housing lender license, an fifty states and LS consumer access dot org. Number thirty thirty donlevatar. I love me. Some doctors have a lot of respect for the medical profession stugatz except chiropractors. These live at our show with Stu guys on ESPN radio. You might not know this, but ESPN is very careful about how it reports things and there is a do not report right now out on a news story in Pittsburgh that I can't get into any more details because he has peon has not yet confirmed those details. It wouldn't be hard for you to find on the internet, other outlets reporting it. But what I love. Is that ESPN is very meticulous about double checking these kinds of stories, like the one out of Pittsburgh, but the one that Roy's about the tell you about, we can just say it and there's no problem with do not report on this. So just this is fairly shocking. If you're in your car Roy's going to deliver some news that we are allowed to report. Go ahead, ROY opponent to the New York Times the United Nations. Climate panel has issued a warning saying that the world will end in twenty two years. Thank God. I won't be around. So have fun. Everybody like just like really milk it over the next twenty two years. As soon it's over. Gimme that will Cain sound. You can hear. We'll Kane every day here on ESPN radio from three to six PM playing the guitar. While he strums sports radio. What do we have here from Wilkinson is he he's defending his beloved, Dallas Cowboys Dan, quite the opposite. Oh yes. He still loves the Cowboys and that's why you hear this passion, they're, they're, they are man. They made the bad choice on deck Prescott just chose polling. It's a rare combination of bluster and facts in the Dak Zeke era. They have gone on fourth in one nineteen times they made it eighteen times that's ninety four percent. What in God's good name, terrified you at the opponent's forty-two. What are you doing? Ponting at the opponent's forty-two in overtime with a chance to win the game. What more? This is what you've invested in for going on a decade in chose tired Smith as Rex Ryan just put out to me in the green room. He chose tyrant Smith over JJ watt. I like it. That's fine. But that's how you chose to invest. You chose Zac Smith over Johnny Manzo, thank God, but that tell you chose to invest. You chose Zeki Elliott over Jalen Ramsey I still don't hate it, but you've invested for close to a decade and being able to run on fourth and one and you punt it because you're a loser. And let me ask you this. It's over. It's time and lets you want another decade of losing move on. The Jason Garrod era has to be over that is an emotional Cowboys fan, super frustrated that the owner of his team has turned has turned the coach into a. Genetically incorrect KENDALL. Likes that. That's right. But what I'm saying is if you like that you can't get so mad when that shrivels up on fourth and short. Like if you liked the coach, who's gonna be your puppet, you gotta be okay with the puppet not having some of the parts. You want to hear sound of Jason, Garrett defending his decision. Well. We've been aggressive going for it on fourth down. That's been a good thing for us, but not every fourth down situation is the same. I think we're on the forty two yard line there. It was a long one. I was standing right there, so it was probably yard and a half reason. We've been aggressive because we'd go in those situations and a lot of confidence in the guys up front lot of confidence in our runner. But again, the game situation what we had done on offense. What we had done on defense, how long fourth-down was all those factors played into the fact that we're in overtime. If you do a good job on defense, you get a stop. Maybe they make one first down, they punt it back to you. You make one first down back and you kick the game winning field goal. All those things go into it. I feel like he's going to be saying that because he went all he went all of a sudden the Vegas odds on favorite to be the first coach fired feel like he's going to be talking just like that to his plants in four months with no job. Like it's just he's going to still be defending the fort down decision. It was a long one though. Was one that half your, we'll get you thinking, man, that extra half yard. We'll get you thinking telling you it was about one point four yards yet, but how much must coach hate it when his owner does post game, press conferences. That coach has to understand it. That coaches employed only only because he because he's good with that sort of thing as most coaches would not be. I mean, they're eighteen nineteen on four th and one maybe the one that they missed was a long one. Well, that's the thing. If they miss this one, if this had been eighteen for twenty, we still would have killed him, right? I mean, not all ones are made the same less than one. Sometimes it's lightly more than one sometimes exactly one. I mean, you never have the same one. Jason. Garrett knows he made a mistake. He knows it. He just won't bring himself to admit it. At this point I have faith in my defense, but not to stop them if we fail on that, that fourth down conversion. Well, I have faith in my runner and my blockers, but not to get a long yard not to get along. I trust one yard, but this one's really. This is a long hard, normal size yard. I trust Zeki. Look, we spent all this money on the offense of line and running back and I trust them to get a normal sized yard, but along yard, I gotta send the punt around much as it is. It is. It was at the Texans forty two man. They made a movie about his decision call the longest yard. How. Treats from the microphone. How long have you been sitting on. Tobacco or you like, what's the matter with you mean. Steve great Cody on the ESPN radio.

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The Kilcoyne Conversation  Lance Berkman

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The Kilcoyne Conversation Lance Berkman

"As we wind down twenty twenty a year that we can't wait to see in the rear view mirror. We are looking back at some of the things we did that we enjoyed and that includes here on the kilcoyne conversation. One of my favorite visits it was early. During the shutdown. Everybody was home every zooming in a lot of talk about david freeze in game. Six of the world series fox sports midwest locally kept playing the game and people love it and you notice in that game you almost forget lance berkman had a huge hit david freeze tied at the ninth. But bergman had too tired to keep it going so freeze could hit the dramatic walk off home. Run and got me thinking about berkman who had just two years in saint louis but boy twenty eleven he hit thirty one homers. He was an all star top ten. Mvp votes great season for berkeley and it was kinda strange after all those years being a houston astro to see him. Not only in st louis but beloved by cardinal fans and then when you talk to the guy great stories about how you used to hate larussa and his connection to the fans is finally here a couple of years why he was called fat. Elvis and big puma really glib reminds me a lot of an atom wainwright. You get them going. You could talk to him for hours. They're just great guys. Were interesting to talk to. So we thought we'd hit the rewind button for those who miss it. It was a lot of fun. If you've already heard it you'll enjoy hearing it again. He's that much fun to talk to lance berkman as we close out the kilcoyne conversation in twenty twenty and remember to take care of our great sponsors that includes triad bank located in front neck. But it doesn't matter where you live. They're easy to get to right by that intersection of lindbergh and highway. Forty clayton road neighborhood. Friendly bank based in saint louis since two thousand five. They started the bank here. 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The saint louis area there on the web via appliance discounters dot com in the market for a dishwasher. Lot of folks is. Tell me you're at home. Maybe some family and friends coming over. Maybe not as many as it used to but the dishwasher gets a workout. You need to have a bosch. It's quite simply the best dishwasher on the market. But it's also and. I can attest to this the quietest dishwasher on the market. And if you need a bosch dishwasher you get it from appliance discounters because they always have the lowest prices. The appliance discounters dot com. Where you can find them online just going to little search engine there and type in bosch b. o. s. c. h. Check at all their great material all their merchandise right there on the website. The appliance discounters dot com. Let's get to it lance berkman and we'll start with game six the twenty eleven world series a team that had to come back all year one final game where they had to make a dramatic comeback. That's where we pick it up with lance berkman. That whole year was a special year for me and the biggest reason is because the group of guys that we had on. That team was as fun as i've ever been around and it was just a joy to come to the ballpark and i got so many good friends still that That were on that team. And it's it's weird you know. We play together for one year. But you can take anybody that was on that team even if they were there for a brief period of time and we have a special bond that we share so That to me was the best part of that year. Outside of actually winning the world series is just getting a beer on a great group of guys every day and of course the cap off with a world series victory in dramatic fashion It's kinda dreams dream come true and sometimes it seems like it happened to somebody else. You know when. I look back on it. It just is such a storybook type of situation that it. It almost doesn't seem real so Blot of wild emotional swings and the crazy part about that year as we were sort of in desperation mode from about the last part of august all the way through the end of october so it wasn't just like we got in the play offs and and had dig deep. We were we were in layoff mode about from you know say september one hamilton. Ulmer's there after the freeze hit. That had tied it. How deflating was it or did you guys absence like you said you were in that mode for a long time. Did you have a sense. You know we're not done well actually out to be perfectly honest. I thought we were thought that that you know. It's hard to come back from a two run deficit. One time in that game does even get two extra innings probably ninety eight ninety nine percent of the time against a good closer like lease like they had But then when they went up again by two runs. You're thinking there's no way we're coming back twice in two innings from a two run deficit but One thing about team like a reference to you know the quality. The guys was such that. You'd never really felt like you're out of it. You always knew there was room for a miracle and And that's kind of what happens so as it was. It's funny when hamilton hit a two run homer. I remember standing out there in the outfield and can While you know the rangers deserve it they have a great team. We had a great year. We're going to be just as good coming back next year. That's kind of odd process. But then when we got back into the dugout. And i think it john jay lot off the base. It was either Also get mixed up which one got hit earth but the first guy up not that well you never know and then the next guy gets hit and then it's like. Oh gosh we got a real chance at this thing and and So it just sometimes. When you're playing it happens so fast that you're just before you know it. You're you're right back on the cusp of title game again. And that's kind of how that inning play. Now you're a long-time astro. I think we always think of you in your houston. Career reminds me a little bit. Larry walker only two years other went to a world series. They went to a cs and he comes back still talked about how much he loves it. It's interesting 'cause you were here. Two years to really good seasons talk about the connection. You feel to the organization into the city when i renew our through through an astro but that two years seemed to have had a profound impact while i just very thankful that i got a chance to play for the cardinals a first class organization in every way and a part of that is they make their former players feel like a member of the family and i think you know the one thing that makes the cardinal organization. A unique in all of baseball is the ownership that the fans take in the team in. It's like a family tradition. You know father and son cardinal fan you gets passed down as generational and you don't see that at a lot of places There there are certain organizations. Like the yankees. I think that have a little bit of that but there's something special about saint louis. The way they treat their players away the fans streak of players And yeah i've played twelve years in. Houston i certainly feel connected to the astros organization but also have a deep strong connection with the cardinal organization Because of the way that they continue to reach out. I mean they want guys come back they want guys again bald I get invited to do a bunch of stuff in saint louis and you know obviously it helps if you have success earned. We won that world series. I'm not sure if you if you come in and you just kind of have a so-so year or whatever. It would be quite as as much. But i know that top to bottom. There's just so many quality people that are associated with the cardinals and that's what makes them great. You mean idea your take on the russa from afar who's pretty heated there for a while the central with the cards in the astros. And i'm sure he wasn't real popular on your side of the field at any play from gimme that perspective from the other side and then playing for him well when we were playing against before i really knew him. He's probably my least favorite person in baseball. Like i've offered a fist. Fight him in the parking lot. Like that's kinda Sentiment just as you feel like. I don't know you just kinda read you the wrong way when you're across a field but then i got a chance to play for him and i'm so glad i did. He might be my favorite person in all of baseball so Talk about a wild swing of emotion played against him and then fly in for him to totally different perspectives and antonis. Such a great guy. Like what you see in the dugout is not how he really is. And of course if you don't know him you don't know that all you have the judge him on is he's wearing sunglasses at night and he's sitting over there you know and just net very very stoic and never emotes in just seems like he's the Sometimes when you're playing against all this guy thinks he's smarter than the game and he's you know he's making all these moves and but what you don't realize until you play for everything tony does is to win. That night's ball game like he legitimately pours his heart and soul into every single game. One hundred sixty two times. It's incredible like to watch him manage and and you don't appreciate it. He doesn't think he's smarter than the game. He's just pulling all the levers that he can possibly pull if he thinks it will give his team a chance to win. And i have some much respect for him And of course. Even when. I didn't care for him. I respected him. Just because of the way his team play jarring and surreal after. You guys win the world series in dramatic fashion and it is less than forty eight hours. Tony has the meeting Done he is told me along. The way duncan new few people knew but for the most part is huge secret. What was that moment like when he told you guys. That's it i'm done. Well i mean initially it was shocking Just because he felt like that he still had a lot to offer. I think you know that year was really tough on him because he had shingles the whole year in on so he was he was in pretty bad shape as far as physically in the way felt so i know even though it was a lot of fun the way it ended there was a lot. I remember many times walking by his office in him laying on his couch in there. You know the cloud over his face just because he was in a lot of pain From the shingles so When he first told us that he was not coming back we were. Everybody was kind of like you know. Wow but then once. I stopped and thought about it and kind of review the year and What a better. What better time to go out and right after winning the world series so if aid some sense to me at that point but it still was it was. It was pretty shocking. We talk a lot about your cardinal connection. Give us ninety this offseason. You work with matt carpenter another houston area. Got that all come about well. carbon. I've been friends for a long time because he was a young player. Rookie really the years. I was there in saint louis so he's from taxes he told me he. He told me at a poster of me in his room when he was a kid. Because he's from houston. And of course i you know. I was playing with the astros when he was in high. School also made sense that That he would have been an astros fan and so we just had kind of hit it off and we keep in touch and we are both go to this christian Players conference that. They have every winter and i was there with him and knew that he had had a rough year side. Ask him we got into a conversation about it and ask him. Hey you know what he thinks happened. And so i have sort of followed him In an idea of what. I thought was the problem so offer that we again continue the dialogue and he said hey we come happen in a hit with me at his ranch. Right outside of fort worth and Love to do that. So that's kind of how it all came about and java there and it with him for three or four days in in really liked what i saw. It's honestly a little bit disappointed that the not playing right now. Because i think he'd be having a really good year are you played with carbon. He was a young guy. You played with wayne right. You play with molina. Does it make lance berkman feel young or old. No the wainwright. Emulator are still going in saint louis. Why it makes me feel a little bit young. 'cause was long as you know. Some geyser still as long as you play against with and against guys that are still doing. It can't be that old so It does kind of make me feel young but it does seem like another lifetime ago. That that i was actually playing so i guess it just depends on my mood. What about a future endeavors high school coaching for a while. I i could see you. You're glib doing. tv any any thoughts about that. I did a few games for the astros last year. enjoyed it. It was fun. But i enjoy being around the players and kind of being a part of a team and i and i love the coaching aspect of it. I feel like that. The things that i learned over the course of my playing career Could benefit the guys. That are playing today so i love to pass along a experience in information and doing things like i did with carpe. This offseason i mean that really is is where my I think my passion lies when you were coaching yet. Andy pettitte is. What are your assistance. That had to be the most veteran staff. I'm guessing in the league. You were in a you. Think other teams reverend intimidated. Look over and said well. That's a lot of big league experience on the other side ended. The kids all know your resume is years. Ago isaac bruce. He was coaching receivers in high school football. And he tells kid how to block them feeling kids. But what are you know. Well you could. You could probably look me up. Did the kids know your careers and you think it was intimidating to the other teams. Well i think. I mean. I don't know about intimidating. I do know that like whenever we were playing. We got the other teams best game because whether it's the opposing coaching staff for the players. You know they kinda wanna like you know. Hey we we beat these guys But yeah the kids are about the. I've had that kind of same experience. That isaac bruce did some everybody every kid's different but you definitely get a few that are less Coach -able than others and It doesn't take long for the allure of having a couple of former big leaguers to them. You're just their coach so Yeah i think. Initially especially when i first started there was a little bit of that You know man starstruck wherever you want to call it from the players but that that were operating quick and then it becomes kind of a typical player coach relationship which i enjoy and They they kind of me is not a former major leaguer. But just their coach. Are you have one of the greatest nicknames in big puma you. One of the most insulting nicknames fed elvis who gave you each name and you go by either at this point I don't go by either. But i dan. Patrick is the one that gave me fat elvis. And wasn't he wasn't trying to be insulting. He was just He we were talking about nicknames and he asked me if i'd ever had a nickname and i said no and he said has anybody ever said you look like anybody else and i said well my mom used to look like elvis which. I don't really see that. But that's what she said. Of course she's your mom you know she's gonna say stuff like that And so then he kind of took that and he said. Will we be the fat elvis or the skinny elvis. And i said probably the fat elvis just because i got a big face and that sort of thing is so that that's kind of how that came about the puma win similar situation. I was in houston on a radio. Show morning radio show and they were asking me about nicknames and really had one. i didn't really have one that i liked and they said well. If you could give yourself a nickname what would be said. Well i'd probably call myself the big puma because i'm sleek and fast and powerful and kind of secretive A little bit of tongue in cheek and loved it and started calling me that on the radio and then it next thing he knows. Somebody showed up at the ballpark with a sign. And and that's how it got started landscape catch up Look forward to seeing busch stadium once we get back to baseball. And i'm sure you'll be around at some point. All right martin. Thank you always. Great to catch up with a player like lance berkman. Who's just fun to talk to give you. Honest answers now taking cheap shots but just sort of fun loving guy. Great visit with him looking forward to all of our visits twenty one. You never know what's around the corner. We've talked comedians. We've talked to colonel from vietnam so mostly sports but sometimes we'll venture venture out. Also the martin marlo segments. Every week on scoops with danny mac dot com and the latest edition late near started doing the football conversations with orlando pace. The big o. Show coming to you late every week. Looking at the football ahead but also tell them some stories from orlando's hall of fame career. But maybe a saint louis ram story or two. And we're going to tee up some of his teammates over the next couple of months as well looking forward to all of that. Make sure you subscribe so it's delivered directly to you. I tunes google harbor. 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SCOREBOARD: Punched

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

17:19 min | 3 years ago

SCOREBOARD: Punched

"As someone who lives in breezy college football, I can promise you that this season will bring the mayhem. You'll feel it during huge wins and heartbreaking losses on Dame, winning drive, drives it in a post game Fender bender. This season teaming up with AllState highlight these key moments. The let fans know if mayhem can show up on game day. Imagine what can happen. The rest of the week for expert advice call your local agent today. He's baseball tonight. Scoreboard bus you're only in. This is the baseball tonight. Scoreboard for Tuesday, October nine, two thousand eighteen coming up the Astros and dodgers punch their tickets to the next round. While the Red Sox punch the Yankees in the mouth. Let's get to it. The first pitch. In Cleveland, the Astros and the Indians Cleveland trying to make a series of this Houston. One game one and game two of this series. And in the middle of this game, look like the engines had their shot. Bottom of the fifth inning score tied one, all Francisco indoor at the plate. Door drags deep down. What is on its way. Tight Jane wall straight down the left via live second on to series wig woods back ahead to to one Roxy Bernstein on ESPN radio with that call in the top of the seventh inning. However, the Astros began to rally in Cleveland called on Trevor Bauer out of the bullpen. And this happened our ready up. This is hit down, let feline headed toward the corner. This is going to be a head, it's going to be extra bases, and it might clear all too, as in here comes bregman hill score Gurry l. the thirty stops their head to secular double is good solace. Another huge hit for more. Would Gonzales four to two Astros here in the seven, George Springer piled on top of the eighth Springer. He drives out toward right center field on the move. It is kipness still going back, looking up. It's gone George Springer ton it again. Another home run of the play offs for him. This one to the opposite side, his tenth career, playoff home, run five to to Houston. You wanna spark that debate up again about who's the MVP. Carlos Correa has been dealing with a back issue, but it wasn't an issue in the top of the eighth. You know is hit to right field and pretty well hit. We'll be back on Malki Cabrera at the wall. It's gone Carlos Correa to the opposite field. His first yet of this series of three run Homer and the Astros are pilot on now. It is tended to. And this was the final call in the bottom of the ninth inning. Three one is bounce to I, this should do it. Guri l. has it will feed will Harris he steps on the bag. The Astros finish off a dominating three-game sweep over the central champion Indians. The final score here in game three, eleven to three disappointment for Cleveland as their season comes to an end, but the defending World Series champion Astros they looked prime to go after a repeat. AJ Hinch. The Astros manager talked about George Springer in the rest of the Astros excelling an October said the star team in there were special teams do special things in October, and I believe that about players and Georgia's one of them and there is an extra gear that our guys have. And once we, you know, hit the post season. It looks like as of right now that our guys in really really turned it on. So Georgia is a special player. We've seen him, you know, come up as an Uber prospect, you know, produce it an uncanny level, hit the lowest of lows in the in the World Series and then be the World Series MVP. I don't think this the prize anyone. He's a. He's a really special player. George Springer spoke with our Marley Rivera. That's one you know, I think for us, it's something fun. So you know, it's, it's, it's, it's just about, you know, having fun to join it, but not trying to do too much. Just staying in the moment. I am having a lot of fun in needs manager, terrified Conan, not having a lot. Funny was asked what he was most disappointed about in this series. I don't know. I haven't thought about that. I mean, would have time to process it. You know, you you show up in is all we wanted to do. They keep it going. So we play tomorrow, you know, we, we gotta go home now before we're ready to that, that hurts. It always stings, you know. And I know I just told the guys, we got a number of guys that are free Asians, you know, there's going to be some turnover and it's a real special group to to all of us. So that's a hard wood. You know, when you're saying goodbye before you're ready to the Indians, keep going to the playoffs and they keep getting knocked out in Francona reference that. I mean, I'm glad we've had a chance. And if you keep giving yourself a chance you, there's a, you know, at some point you believe you'll break through. We haven't been good enough to this point. Nobody's gonna quit quit, trying or quit trying to get better. But you know it is frustrating for sure. I think there's a lot of teams who would like to be in this situ. Ration-. But when you come up short, you'd take stock and try to do better. It's possible that two thousand nineteen will be the last year in the window of opportunity for this Cleveland team. We'll be talking about that and the days ahead for sure. Alex bregman the Astros shortstop was on sportscenter talking about the Astros maybe feel a little disrespected this Floyd Mayweather fight the first fight of the night or does he is he the main event. I mean, this Tiger Woods t off at eight AM. It's about time the the show stroz play on primetime television. So we're looking forward to the LCS. And it Lanta the dodgers trying to finish off the Atlanta Braves and early on. They took the lead behind Manny Machado pitch past diving third basement Camargo down the left field line being shit around third is Muncie, and he will score into second base with eight hard hit doubles, Manny, Machado one. Nothing else Angeles, Chris, Berman on ESPN radio. Now we've talked about how the dodgers bullpen not as strong as it's been in the past, but in this game, the bottom of the fifth inning, Ryan Madson got a big out with base loaded pitch, reached out and coming on going out as shortstop Chato who the double play volley. Let me take this. I got it. And the Braves squander a basis loaded opportunity and Ryan match in comes in and gets the two outs. Atlanta led to two one at that point. And that. Changed in the top of the sixth inning payoff pitch ripped up. Diving's corporate city can't get it. One runners home. We comes home and just as Dookie had a pinch it to run for the Braves, David freeze. Has brought the heat. The dodgers and they lead it three two. David freeze lows him some Tober so many big hits, Manny. Machado applied the Khuda ground. The top of the seventh pick hits that to left field back. It goes back back back. Maybe indeed he loves LA, Manny. Machado, three run Homer driven for the six runs, and the dodgers are back to long ball and a long six to two lead. That would be the fun of score the dodgers wrapping up that series. Brian snicker the Braves manager talked about the idea that the Braves weren't in for the moment. This has been a great experience for him. I think probably after we won the division, they probably sat around and thought about the playoffs. But until you actually experience it, the intensity that the just the electricity that's involved in that. And like I say, if a team makes the playoffs, they're, they're pretty good. So the consistent, you know, just knowing we played the dodgers this year and how strong they are. And I think it's just been a great experience for all those young guys to have experienced the postseason as such a young age. Josh, I love the perspective, Brian sticker right after losing that series. I think he understood the dodgers. Were the better team and be this young group of Braves or better for going through this. Yeah, and he certainly knows his team better than either you or I do. So I think that probably what they need a Pat on the rear end say, hey, you know, we didn't get them today, but we still will be all right. Yep, I today this year we'll take another step next year. Dave Roberts the dodgers manager talked about his team. We took a hard path to get to this point, but I do think it made us a stronger and kind of galvanize our our team. But you know, we celebrate tonight, but I know that we all know that you know, there's a lot more work to be done and we have eight more wins to go. Manny. Machado spoke with Pedro Gomez about the dodgers and about going from the Orioles to this situation. It's awesome. You know, going to balk love that that that you're playing many baseball. The second half brings definitely brings a different energy on gives you second life and ever since I got in here, Pat energy, these guys in your in this grade that they give you more energy if focused termined. And I'm just glad to be here. Nobody has more fun in a post game celebration than Yaseen week. And he did again after this series. I see you. Oh, you today eight, multi go baby. Who's calling me now, combing may walking. I see you baby par. I see you. Oh, wow. Yes. Yelp we having a good time. The dodgers bullpen in this game for two-thirds innings to hits and no runs at according to note, sent to us by our friend, Kyle soppe easy. In Yankee Stadium, the Red Sox in the eighties, this series tied one all and Luis Severino it was clear at the beginning. He wasn't right. The Red Sox took the lead in the top of the second Severino sets and firi- swinging a ground ball that kicks off the glove. Severino trickles out too short gregorious picks it up. He's got no play into score. Is Raphael de vers than it is one to nothing on an infield single off the pitchers mitt, my Christian Vasquez, Johnny that call on ESPN radio, the Red Sox continue to have chances and they scored again in the third, here's Rafeal Denver's. Now, I third, the pitch swing bouncer to the right side it up towards second for one return to first time at Benintendi scores to make it three to nothing to three to nothing through three innings in Aaron Boone cents Luis Severino out for the top of the fourth, the Red Sox. Began to rally Lance Lynn entered. And this happened inside and that's all. So he walks bets on four pitches. And now it's four to nothing. And then he got really ugly. Swig a line drive. They're ball down the right field line kicks off the side wall at towards the right field corner into score is baskets in his Bradley on his heels. His bets Benintendi clears the bases, and it seven to nothing Boston on top of New York on that double into the right field corner. The two one swing a line drive base hit and that one getting into the right field quarter holds around. I racing for second into scores, Bogart's Pierce racing for the plate hopes going to end up at third that lend up being a two run triple, and it's ten, nothing Boston on top while and the route was on Brock Holt was building a possible cycle sort of and boop shabbes made no secret of the fact that he cannot stand the whole conversation around psychos. He doesn't think they're big deal and after Holt guy. A single double and triple. Jessica does a mentioned on the broadcast that you know in her words, Brock Holt was a home run short of a cycle and Buksh Mbeki's reaction was right, and I'm forty five pounds from losing fifty pounds. So that was the backdrop for what happened in the top of the ninth inning Austin role, mine Yankee catcher came onto pitch that ninth inning with the game completely out of hand. Brock Holt came to the plate. Again, here comes Brock Colt, who is home run show short of the cycle. That's right. Yeah, can happen. So what happens you get like so cited because you love the cycle, here's a swing and drive right field on its way. And he's hit for the cycle. How about that off the catcher Brock Holt over the right field wall a single double triple, and now a Homer, and he has done it rock coal to two run blast to make it sixteen to one and hold that for the cycle. All right. Then. That's right boob relenting in that moment, I spoke to them after the game, and he talked about his approach going into the home run. I knew I needed one and with position player on the mound. Sure, right short, right Bill porch. I was just going to be swing everything trying to everything. And I told I told the guy said, give me up on eight Homer for the cycle, and I've kinda screwed it up in the box a little bit. Now I was just gonna try to hit a home run. I figured out to first, but you know it worked out. So that was pretty cool. See the reaction from from everyone in the end the in the dugout? Yes, that's how game three devolve for the Yankees. You got guy in the other team treating it like a homerun derby in the ninth inning against a catcher pitching, Alex Red Sox manager described the Anki stadium environment. I knew it was going to be loud regardless of the rivalry. How many times we play them is different five in the playoffs. And he was, I mean. From the introductions to the first pitch to whatever you know it was alive. You know, this place is is great. We just gotta stay when the in the moment just don't get to over hype because we plan the Yankees and his loud and keep it simple whenever pitch and tonight with it. It was allowed for about three and a half innings. Then everyone started to clear out of there. It was a lot of talk during the game on the TV s broadcast about Luis Severino not getting enough time to warm up perhaps because he went out late Aaron, Boone address that question after the game. No, he got his normal pitches routine faced couple hitters down there. So no, no issue with that. Now there was a follow up question to that after Buni answered a couple of other questions and he emphasized again Severino had enough time to warm up. CBS was making a big deal that that sevi- only had eight minutes to warm up. I'm are you saying they're wrong? I'm not saying I'm saying he had is he had he had plenty of warm up yet. He had what he intended to go down there and get done. And and Larry said he was able to get through his his normal routine where he faces a couple hitters and everything. So it wasn't an issue. Luis Severino address the question pitching Cho's that's you can relieve, you know, he's not whatever he said that he's now always in my boop and how he knows what time going out. No came out on twenty minutes before the game. Like I always do. So I don't know what he's saying that. So now moving for the Red Sox with a two to one lead in this series. Tonight's they've got Rick sell on the mound. The Yankees have CC's about the Aaron judge talked about the veteran left-hander. This guy's been in the situation before this game five for us in Cleveland last year. Good strong for us. So our, he's our guy, he's he's who I want in the mountains on a situation like this. Thanks relation to baseball tonight. Scoreboard be should check out the baseball tonight. Podcast, Tim kerchief join me to talk about the whole situation with Luis Severino will also have Brian Anderson TVS and you'll talk about how their coverage evolved about this in about what he sees in game four and what he sees in the Milwaukee Brewers team that he broadcast during the regular season, and we go inside the numbers with Sarah. Lang's. Thanks for listening and have a great Dammar body. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight scoreboard and be sure to download all bad cast including the baseball tonight podcast at ESPN dot com slash pod center. The baseball tonight scoreboard.

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"Playing Mega Millions with the Brauns"

The Tony Kornheiser Show

1:22:23 hr | 3 years ago

"Playing Mega Millions with the Brauns"

"Previously on the Tony Kornheiser show. He didn't make the trip. It's a five-game trip. We can have ten days. Four hours closer to me to the wizards. He trip. To sort of sit for five hour. That's why. That's why Portland may as my question. So wizard to doing well Redskins are doing well. Well, that is well in the family. Content. The Tony Kornheiser show is on now already. We're live at chatter at the corner of Jennifer street, northwest. There was consonant, northwest in friendship is really pretty morning. Actually. We are here with Gary Braun and gene McManus, and Michael Kornheiser Nigel is going to run the board. He's going to do the news. We have a special guest, Michael swimmer former major league baseball player who was involved in a very interesting project by denting talent and and sort of paying talent in the minor league level hoping that there will be payoff for both the talent on the company. I got this correctly in the major league level. It's it's analytically based, which means we'll will not miss. Audio and we have a, we have a bunch of people right in here who are listeners of the podcast in the other room because chatter is a big restaurant. Is it in the other room? We're going to have about forty or fifty people from Catholic charities who at some point during the show are going to try to do a forced conversion of may. We'll see what happens. Those auto defense that they had in the fourteen hundreds genie with me because genie, how many years of Catholic covered I can cover. Okay. So we know what we're is. In fact, a leaf blower Wednesday. I want to mention the World Series last night. The World Series tonight at chatter tomorrow night and NFL game the World Series resumes chatter on Friday. I don't know about the face painting because on the weekend because the nor'easter is supposed to hit. I, I don't know. You could go to the website. I'm sure we have a website chatter DC dot com. Whatever. Out. I should tell you that an anti patient. We did the one thing that everybody does in anticipation of giant rainstorm. We cleaned the windows. The windows are beautiful here today or tomorrow. The windows are beautiful. I make no guarantees. Once Friday afternoon comes Friday afternoon through Saturday, watching Willard, Scott, early this morning. He said a minimum of two inches in this area with like violent wind driven rain, but it looks really, really nice. Now, the baseball game is uppermost, but actually it's not up most actually, what is what is uppermost by the way, because I I was up early like I always am. I walked the dog. The moon was beautiful. It's not quite full, but I was watching it essentially set in the western sky and walking the dog big, beautiful moon. The axing give us it's, we are waxing. We're not waning at this point that that's right. Yeah. And also one other small personal note, Mike, my phone is clearly broken. I have not received any emails to my Email account in five days now. That's not because every day I get more. Every day, you know, I get by gold, get you need an oxygen tank speedy. India. Why don't you get a degree from southern New Hampshire university St. recipe I get those day. I've had none agree to assist them update. Yes. Now I mistake well, they keep bothering you every time you turn on the metal. Nine me later remind me late. So what happened is if if you're within the sound of my voice and you think I have not answered your Email, it's because I haven't gotten. I have not gotten any emails since Saturday or Sunday, maybe earlier than that. And I should say that. Before we get to the World Series. One ticket one point, six billion dollars the ticket. By the time you hear this, it may be that not that the winner will be identified, but the exact location of the store where it was sold, be identified. What we know now is that it was bought in South Carolina, I believe Chan hardwood bought it to give see present because Buzi is sixteen as long as it goes to the next generation nearly doubling his net worth. So. What you get if you take the one some and you crazy, not if you're over forty, you're crazy not to take the lump sum. You get nine hundred thirteen million dollars before taxes. Taxes get about four hundred and fifty million dollars. Something like that. That four hundred fifty is life changing unless the up to split it with every single person that works in your company. And there's like eight hundred people. I don't know how it's going to work. I don't. I did not buy ticket. Nigel, did you? I did. That was my retirement plan. So I have to go to plan b. Michael's if you buy ticket, I did not in the only reason I did it was because I saw the types of people walking in the mini mart where I was in every time the door opens fired every time. Everytime. What are you doing here? I just picked up the winning ticket closed or walkout. Genie, did you did? I bought a mega million bought a Powerball. This Amir, like six million. I was like the guy that sold me the ticket said guarantee. Good luck. And I said, you know what? Phil, thank you. Good of Jerry. Do you have a story about your tickets? I did bankroll the purchasing of some tickets and believe your wife works. She does. She does in fact work, but she used my money for these tickets. And Jack in it actually was so we're, we're not regular regular players on this particular game. I have ever. I maybe, but I don't recall ever buying ever struck me. I would watch people buy it and it got confusing. I didn't know whether to play my own numbers or not, and I didn't know I wanted some random collection, so I just I just turned away. I just leave. I remember us. I'm sure you do when it was a hundred million dollars when the Powerball has like a hundred million dollar join. Everyone went crazy. Run out to get it. Now you're talking one point, six billion. So it gets point where it gets big enough. I guess that it's easy to justify that drew me in and Kim in the kids went out and got tickets. And then when they came home, I began to berate her and we and we got in a huge fight because I was asking, well, split the verse. She's definitely not going to do that now, but I it was just about how stupid she was to think she could. She could win. Win, but then I as president, of course, of course, trying teach the kids throwing money. So the lotteries attacks on the poor. That's a whole nother thing, but we'll get to it later and then and then I went nuts when she told me that the numbers were all like birthdays and anniversaries then for the Powerball or whatever. It's called the mega ball, whatever she picked thirteen. And I said, what are you? Crazy? You wanna split this thing, five ways. Everyone's picking thirty thirteen on the power. So then I just launched into how stupid her number selection was. Do you're looking my face? You don't get it. You'll want seven or thirteen because you think everybody picks that twenty two and a half. That is the number that comes then sign and you get one sixth of nine hundred million dollars minus taxes. It's hardly worth your time. You can buy chatter from me today. It went downhill from there and she, she promised. She swore that if it was the winner, she was out and taking the kit with her. And I said, you promised. So yeah, we didn't win unfortunately reconciled. It was what was the Powerball number five and you know how many choices do you have? One hundred seventy seventy. I think. No one through seventy, I think. Yeah, so so count my theory that thirteen and seven would be bad power. I never picked the new, just let them roll. Thank God. We're not married. Stupid. To say, give me the number. I don't recall ever doing congratulations to whoever that winter is. Who should it was. And let me just say yes. And I think I speak for my son on this. If we find out that that thing was bought between Buford and bluffed and South Carolina's we're going to crippling my name on the back. There's a chance of Chan has it at that point. Chance they have powerballs in the pro shop at the. Esi creek. At least for this jackpot which shop credit. Get shop. Bread that posing could legitimately retired. Okay. When I'm done, but it's the people that win like depend dollars and they say, I'm retiring right now. No, somebody who one hundred thousand dollars still do this and gino's knows this person to. I'm not going again find this person. This person worked at the Washington Post one hundred thousand one hundred. This is great. Well, it's life changing well. Well now, okay. At that point, this is twenty twenty five years ago at that point, sixty thousand dollars is what you get. Okay, now you have sixty thousand dollars. Now you bar car and now you take your then girlfriend to Hawaii. Yes. Your then girlfriend. You notice. I'm not saying you now. Then Hawaii, you buy car, not even the greatest Conroy of you by a pretty good car and you know what you left with after that squad seven seventy five hundred dollars. Now, if you think that's made for for many that is like changing now for me, not for me and that was one hundred a wall. He won right. He won the lottery heating, quit his job if he needed that. Dick. How he would deal without one hundred. Exactly. That would have been like that. So you know, they're all those wonderful stories. There are books written about people whose lives would change almost always for the worse. Almost always seems that way. Yeah, but if you're one person, you won this one. How about the people on four and five times six figures. Plus, I mean, there was I heard a story last week about a guy who want a just went all like a million two. And then he won three point four, they must listen to the process. Adam proprietary algorithm in that really good movie with Cameron Diaz and Tom Cruise. That's one of the small plotlines in his at night and night and day good movie. And it talks about how his parents keep winning the lottery money. They sent me this money and say, when the lottery? Okay, where's your laundry? Theory was good. We can't get this segment without mentioning that. Well, Andy, I always believed that that no one won the lottery. What they do is they would find someone in South Carolina. Go give them sensually quarter of a million dollars to pretend. Great idea. It's hard with these one point. Six billion pots when I predicted I talked about the World Series of here, and I said a couple of things. One was that I thought it would be a hitter series. I think these teams are really good. They've got about each each team has about twelve to fourteen guys who can really hit the only person who can't hit it all in the series Monty, Grondahl and Donnie. He didn't get a chance to get up last night and I thought you'd get eight six games and seven, five games and starters would not last very long. You tempted me to say that either sailor kershow would have lasted long until I watched the first inning and understood that the balls were being hit hard. Yeah, they were being hit hard and neither one was gonna last Chris sale inherited the geo kansallis disease. He had ninety one pitches in one batter into thinning. One bag. Seven kings geo would not understand. I understand. So I look at the first any at twenty one pitches in what looked like a very efficient through. So I texted Kelleher really early. I said, Nita, these guys go. Last five said, I've got a better chance of lasting five, which I did not much more than five than they were both out. Clayton Kershaw got hit hard when they hit. It will Chris sale to the ball comes in fast. It goes out a little bit faster. The dodgers used four relievers. The Red Sox you six game lasted over four hours. The Red Sox you six relievers, including Nathan evolved e who's their number three starter. They used him. It ends up looking like it's the three run Homer. It's three pinch, hit Homer in the bottom of the seventh that provides all the margin. It's very exciting game. I, Tim coaching will be on a little while. The one question I would ask him is, is the. And I don't think this is true, but I think you have to ask if David freeze who's not a first baseman, if David freeze cat foul pop wash by the way, Fenway is not like there's no room. I mean, Fenway you always wonder if I take one more step, I end up on Commonwealth. They haven't. I don't know where I'm going to then it was built eight million years ago at, but if David freeze who's a third baseman by trade and not even a field or anymore, really if he catches that ball, maybe that changes the dodgers allowed the Red Sox extra outs, the Red Sox given that opportunity converted. I don't think that game one. I don't think you win or lose a series in game one. The one thing I really did want to mention was James Taylor's. Anthem was great. Fantastic was great. That's one of the greatest anthems I've ever seen James Taylor alone with the guitar, playing a quiet national anthem. And that was as they like to say in in a Premier League resp-. Checked that Spackman. That was great thoughts. My thoughts. I echo your your, your thoughts on the game in the series of large. I do want to point out how great John Smoltz is and how. And how good and at times just like Nostradamus I think it was the bottom of the fifth. The the SOX had a runner on first or maybe first and second, and I should go to the score. Maybe it was when Bogart's came up and he says, you know, here is exactly where this team kills you because their ability to move runners with two outs get hit with to us, of course, to pitches in. I think it's Bogart's lines base hit. You know, that's the run to put them up, I guess, four to three at the time. He his neck for his ability to explain in lay terms what's going on, but also his his feel for the game. I mean, it's unparalleled. He's great. He is great, great joy to watch. I agree with what you were saying Tony about the Red Sox had this way of capitalizing her turn around. There was thinking about the double play call that was reversed and you could see it could see. And then they go on to score another run by Ryan Madson. Yeah, thought you'd be out by the way Benintendi who I think was at the lead end of that double play. If he's hustling the prior bad, he's on face, he wasn't veteran that inquisition. You try. It's a World Series. I mean, you're going to get a four five times run it out. Yeah, Powell bond. Was there choked them out. I was surprised by Kershaw based on these start. We last saw in Milwaukee, really good. And what's the oddest is almost approach like it was a regular season game where he shied away from his curveball until basically when he was taken out of the game, he relied solely on on a fastball that was sitting at nine hundred ninety one and his cutter, which in the cold weather really wasn't moving in on the hitters and you saw the exit velocity on hits. The Red Sox were getting off that all of them were over one hundred. They're hitting in part as you said. And that Mukhi beds at bat was the entire game. You see the Red Sox hit really well. Two strikes. He hits over three hundred. He gets on immediately steal second, it's closer than it should be, but that's the the entire tone immediately. Then overthrows the cutoff guy. And you see just these storylines that. Exist for the two teams. One aggressive hits with with two strikes on them and the other just playing a little bit out of position that's going to allow those runs to to set up. I mentioned that Michael swimmer was here and he's going to in the old guy segment, talk a lot about what he's doing, but I wanna get him on the Mike now because he was a professional patient. He pitched for the Phillies in the actual big leagues. I don't think there's any doubt in anyone's mind that the greatest pitcher, even with what max and ver- Lander have done. The greatest pitcher in the last ten years is Clayton Kershaw. He's first ballot hall of Famer, his spectacular. This is the eighth time, Michael, that he is giving up five runs or more in a postseason game. How does how do we explain that? So that's first of all, I totally agree with you. Clayton Kershaw has been been unbelievable, but in in the postseason I think we have to as a statistician. I have to tell you post-season. You have to take the sample size into account, and I know he's pitching a lot of postseason games now, but you have to expect variance. First of all your facing tougher line of tough for hitters. And it's the end of the season pitchers tend to sometimes go through ups and downs. You see with Chris sale sometimes not finishing his strong play Fitch season. Say he weighs one hundred twenty pounds. Yeah, that's true. And I totally agree with Michael that he should have used his curveball more. There's some sequencing in there that I certainly didn't personally agree with, but I do think sample size, I think that a lot of the mainstream media likes to say, oh, these guys aren't pressure pitchers or they can't pitch in the clutch. And I, I really disagree with that simply because your average golfer hidden to foot putt with with a ten dollar bet on the line. That's a lot of pressure. We'll clean Kershaw at twelve years old felt pressure when he was there at high school, what his girlfriend in the crowd and and and they'll be scout had pressured. I mean, he's been pitching through pressure in in literally thousands, if not one hundred thousand situations, and it's not like all of a sudden you get to this different level in the pressure's different. It's the same. Now it's different stage that you're renting your competition changes, obviously, but I'm not buying the pressure thing. I'm definitely a lot more on sample size variants and also lulls up and down season. Sometimes your body ways down a little bit, and I think he's taken. That's why takes time off in the middle of the season, a firm believer of that trying to get himself ready for the postseason. So he's working on some things and trying things out. I didn't work out for them last night, but he's gonna get another shot. I don't think this four-game series. I mean, I think I think both teams are gonna. We'll take, we'll take a break, Tim Kirk chip will join us with expertise. When we return. I'm Tony Kornheiser. Listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. This is the casper Ed. You've heard me talking about casper for some time now, and that is because casper makes expertly designed products to help you get your best rest at affordable prices. You spend one third of your life sleeping, so you should be comfortable. The original casper mattress combines multiple supportive memory foam for quality sleep service with the right amounts of both sink and bounce dog. I got the dog. The dog loves the loves at the breathable design helps you sleep cool and regulates your body temperature throughout the night Casper's and only a matches company. They also wore for a wide array of again, wide array. 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It's always nice when people who send in the music and have a hand in recording the music show up at the show. Very cool about that. Very happy. He plays in Tim Kirk, who is our baseball expert? I just, I guess I have to start with this from last night. It's crazy to talk about one play, and I'm not even going to say it's turning point play. It's more emblematic of something that went on. You can't talk about a first inning play and say that it had an enormous affect on an eight to four game down the road where both pitchers both starting pitchers were in effect two, they just didn't have it, but the play, the pop foul, David freeze couldn't locate and couldn't get that led to as some of the plays that the. Dodgers could not make led to Boston's ability to capitalize and make runs a my making too much of it to point to it and say, boy that now in hindsight, looks big. No, you're right, Tony. And we've made a point of it mmediately because I watched the game with Mark to Shera who was as good at catching, a pop foul or pop flies any first baseman. I've seen long time and that is not an easy play. David freeze missed it by five feet. He didn't even know where the ball and that set the tone because that should have been out number one. Instead Mukhi beds gets on feel second scores on on single, right? They overthrew the cutoff man that guy got seconds of two runs scored in the first inning, that in theory, a good defensive situation would not have scored, and then David freeze made another, you know, semi bad play on a stretch. So that caused perhaps another run. So these are the little things. Sony people don't pay attention to that really win, lose games. And I think that set the tone for the entire evening that catchable fly ball off the. Bad of the best player in the league went untouched. I mean, I'm going, I don't know if this is too. I don't know how many first base games David freezes played. I assume that that Roberts wanted to stack the lineup with righties of against Chris sale for however long Chris sale was in there. And it was, as I said in the opening GIO Gonzalez performance ninety one pitches in four plus, but but does Dave Roberts have to be accountable for putting this guy at first base to probably could've put a lefty at first base as a better first baseman, but you wouldn't have the lefty. Righty matchup at the plate, right? Right. Well, David freeze is much more complex third baseman than a first baseman, but he's played the position enough to know how to make that play, but gave Roberts started. All right handed hitters first time in the history of the World Series. That nine right handed hitter started a game, and there's the bigger note here, Tony, and, and this is what. I think you're getting at is the dodgers platoon and play the numbers so much that it's possible there too rigid with these things. And they sat Cody Bellinger who plays first base. Mostly. He was the a LCS MVP and he did not start game. One of the World Series that has never happened to guy who's teen who won the LTS MVP and his team won and advance every one of those guys started game one except for Cody Bellinger last night. So sometimes the dodgers and other teams today with all their sabermetrics numbers overdo things a little and it's possible last night was one of those times. I'm going to assume that you've watched enough World Series in your life to think the game. One creates no particular advantage, especially if the home team wins it a, I don't want to overstate that, but I, you know, game one, you just sort of have to get rid of game one. Then the series starts right. Well, the last two years, the winner of game one. The Indian sixteen the dodgers last year ended up losing the World Series. But in the previous I wanna say like fifteen fourteen winner game one went on to win the World Series almost every time if I think there's something to and in a short series, seven games, Philly, short series. I think you can look at that game and say that was pretty important that the Red Sox win that game because now they, they be Kershaw who pitch all of that wealth sometimes, but they beat him. And now they get a secondary pitcher going to game to five times now, I'm sorry, eight times now in postseason play Kershaw. Great, great pitcher has given up five plus runs. I don't think it hurt him that much yesterday because sale wasn't particularly sharp either I think and have said this, but I yield to you. Completely. I think this is going to be a hitter series. I think you're gonna see a lot of eight, six and seven, five games. I just I just think when you look at the lineups up and down Boston and the dodgers they really do hit well, they really hit at Tony. This is the best offensive team in the game, Red Sox, and they lied. They lit leak. The sheer virtually every important category. They are a relentless offenses team. They scored seven or more runs in three straight games against the Astros. The Astros didn't give up seven runs in three straight games all season, and the Red Sox did that to them in the LCS and the dodgers hit more homers than any team in the National League. They hit more homers than any team in franchise history and they can really pound it. So yes, I think you're right. I think they're going to be a bunch of runs scored in this series and when sale and Kershaw are given up nine between. Them in a total of eight innings. That's fine of things to come. By the way you mentioned that Bellinger who was an LCS MVP didn't play. Had this thing opened up in a National League park, Jackie Bradley Jr. wouldn't play. He wouldn't have played either, and he was the. You know, MVP for the American League, right. That is likely since he's left handed hitter would have been facing Kershaw left-handed pitcher. They would've put Mukhi bets and center and played JD Martinez in. Right. And yes, you're right area. Interesting. But again, Tony, it just shows you how today's game works. Today's game is a collection of interchangeable pieces and Iran, and and they just moved guys around to see where's the best matchup for today rather than telling Cody Bellinger you're one of the two visitors on our team. Overall, you're gonna play every game. I don't care who's pitching for the other team. It doesn't work that way with the dodgers and for a lot of other teams today. So I've got to sort of overarching questions that I don't know if they're troubling. One is is just amazing to me. We are still playing a championship in in sports under two different sets of rules. We would the d. h.. It's two different sets of rules. I find this amazing and somewhat disheartening. I don't wanna sound like really old musty man here, but there's no other sport that has this then have it. Yeah, I am an old musty man. I can't understand that this is forty five years. We've been doing this that these I'm telling you, historians are gonna look back at this and say, what were they thinking? Two different sets rules like this, and it really hurt teams would David Ortiz, who is a strict e h would have to go in and play first base or on the bench. And now the Red Sox are gonna have to figure out something when they go to LA and maybe movie. Beth, I don't think is gonna happen is gonna play second base instead of being the best defensive right fielder in the game. So it's time it's been time for years. Tony, either get rid of the d. h.. Or put it in both leagues, but I didn't make it uniform because this preposterous to me, the other theoretical question is why I don't know that there's an answer why the game so long. They last. So it's too late. It's just too. It's too late for me. It's too late for many, many people. They go on four hours why? Well, Tony, we average basically seventeen strikeouts per game. Now, seventeen. That takes a long time. Strikeout we walked her up home runs up batters take their time. They are looking for the perfect pitch is we use nine relievers, ten relievers, eleven or relievers per game. All those things take time. Don't forget in the Mazza Rossy game nineteen sixty World Series. There were zero strikeouts in that game. Really heated row in game seven of nineteen sixty eight ten to nine score zero strikeouts and ru. Routinely during World Series playoff time, we have twenty twenty two twenty five strikeouts in a postseason game, and that one had zero. And that's just how the game was played then and how it's played now. Okay. But so so go to the second level on that and explain why that is. Does that have something that does that have more to do with hitting philosophy than pitching philosophy or have more with bullpens. It's a little to do with all of those, but it starts with the hitting philosophy. Let's get a really good pitch to hit. Let's not get yourself out by swinging at the first pitch. Let's try to work a deep town. Let's try to get a walk here and up our on base percentage. As opposed to saying, let's make an adjustment. Let's hit the first pitch. We, the first strike. We see, let's put something in play. That's how it no longer works. Plus pitchers are no longer interested in letting you hit the ball. They're afraid when you hit it, you might hit it out of the ballpark because the ball flies down at a record rate. So pitcher goes, I'm gonna nibble here or I'm gonna. I'm not gonna throw them the strike and I'm gonna strike him out. I'm not just going to get him out. I'm going to embarrass him and I'm going to strike out. And that's where we are pitchers who do not pitch to contact and hitters who are not afraid to strike out and do not think even once putting a ball in. Play here is a good idea. It's so interesting because I grew up on the notion that if you were really great pitcher, it would be shown by the fact that you've got ground ball outs that that utilized your fielders. That wasn't one against one. It was nine against one and utilize the ballpark and utilized your fielders and and that cannot be preached now, right? They're preaching something else, right? And it's an obscure staff, Tony, but we have more one hundred strikeout batters today easily twice as many every year now and we had from nineteen hundred to nineteen sixty combined. Think about that. We used to average basically one one hundred strikeout guy from nineteen hundred to nineteen sixty. And now we have one hundred fifty guys year that strike out a hundred times that one of the huge changes. In the game. I don't know that what happened in the first game was surprising to you or changes your opinion, as you look down the road at this series, which team sets up for you as the better team. Well, I think the dodgers are very good, but they lost six. They, they won sixteen fewer games than the Red Sox out issue. The Red Sox are better offensively. They're better. They have a home field advantage way. They play the game. Defensively is better, and I picked him to win and seven, but I was pretty confident going in at the Red Sox win the series. I picked them to win the whole thing at the beginning of the of the postseason. So I'm going to stick with that. The only thing that's scary and it didn't happen last night because he had a big lead kimbrel goes out there and you know that he does not inspire confidence at this point, but if he's got four months, what's the difference? Right, right. He was really good last night, and of course there's this theory that he was tipping pitches here this virtually every day. Well, he was tipping his pitches. They figured him out and he has adjusted. He's made that adjustment and now no one knows what. It's coming and if you don't know what's coming with. Correct. Kimbrel have a hard time idiot. We'll see if that's indeed true as we move forward in a more pressurized situation for him. Thank you, Tim. We will see you in the produce department of supermarket. Thank you, Tim. Okay. Till the boys and girls, he was going to laugh just then got off the phone quickly. We will take a break. We'll have news when we return. I'm Tony Kornheiser. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. 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I was fine back and forth. I watched the last I got involved with about a minute ten fifteen ago overtime. I have no idea why I landed on on the NBA network. That's where my case. I had a kid telling me to to turn over there. I don't know why you got there. Griffin got fifty points iffy and got the last three in the game. He made a very good strategic move to the basket in overtime, yet pretended he was going to get rid of the ball and drove right to the basket on the right hand side and got the foul shot. He's not a great foul shooter that was points four, four after by the way, JJ Rettig hit a three fouled and right out of four point plane right over. I think he had thirty points. And the pistons beat the Sixers. I don't care. I mean, a will will make a big deal about this, but when you get fifty, that's a big deal. Fifty is a big issue. Anthony Davis who's crushing it. Got thirty four, thirteen and five blocks thirty four, thirteen and five blocks does he beat the clippers? Everytime talk about big trae. They took about him. I mean, do you think he ever leaves New Orleans? I don't know why you trade them. He's one of the three players. Pistons Sixers game though, was really citing a little more than you, but I with five minutes left in the fourth quarter and and Blake Griffin side from the fact that he was wearing twenty three which was just weird to me. I don't know how much number, but he it was reminiscent of LeBron James. I mean, they just essentially had him run the point. That's right. Maybe just bounds about him. Everyone get out of the way and he would. They would just clear out for them and he would either pull up for three or get to the hoop, but he was he looked unstoppable. The other news in the league was at Rajon Rondo yesterday said he did not spit. Yes, I'm Chris, I believe him. Yeah, and he hates Crispell. Well, he did. He says, Chris bulls, a horrible teammate. He says, the league is backing Chris, Paul all the time because they think he's a good guy and he's a horrible guy. Yeah, you gotta like that because it run those got a ring. Multi all-star now Rondos wacky among give these wacky Lord. You know how I am with. I think that Chris, Paul gets a level of veneration that I'm not sure as reasonable all the time. Run. They said he said, yeah, the league caters who is good guy image. I couldn't have spit. If you look at a mouth piece in my mouth. I said, I was, I was exacerbated because I was about to tell him Chris bowl to get the bleep out of you. Look at my body language, my hands on my hips. I turn away for a second. If they they would turn up on their faces something they had no reaction. His Rondos position is at Chris. Paul immediately went to a sideline reporter and said, he spit on me and that everybody believes that that the league believes that, you know, he's the head of the players association. He's one of those guys that the league is wants to cooperate with. Yelled at a lot because I'm harder on Chris Paul than most because he has a habit of grabbing someone's growing as going by Ryan, does it. Machado vascular ball. He's a great player who also does that? Yes. Back to baseball. Mr Tony looks like the nationals. Coaching staff will be intact. Dave Martinez, everybody home. The what is doing out him. Yeah, you and all that. Please about this this morning, the worst ERA that they've had since two thousand ten and they brought everybody back. I think losing Mike Matic's was rough. I think he's pretty Derek. Lilla quits is the pitching coach in question. I don't know Mr. little Quist, but his his record this year with the pitching staff wasn't all that good St. solidified the bullpen. The bullpen was terrible. I was just looking at those two rookie coaches last night and thinking. Why couldn't wanna them be the nets. Coach will Roberts, Robert Roberts. Second. Sorry. I mean, you know, so I, I don't know that I would have done that. Yeah. To another local team, the Washington Redskins who remained firmly first place in the NFC east Dion Sanders defending Alex Smith and predicting Redskins in fact, win the east. So I don't really. I'm not sure understand this. I've said this a million times that doesn't make me right, but I've said it a million times that I've always thought. And I said this the day that that he was traded here I said of Alex Smith. I think he's every bit as good as Kirk cousins, and he wants to be yes, you did say that, you know now maybe Kirk cousins is better than him, but Alex Smith is not some donkey. Alex Smith is a professional quarterback. He's been mcchord. He's been passed over once for Colin Kaepernick and San Francisco. And Colin Kaepernick went to the Super Bowl the next year he was passed over this year for Pat Mahomes you, you cannot argue this Pat Mahomes looks like the greatest thing you've ever seen. Right. But Alex Smith is as I think, playing pretty well. The Redskins are playing better than anybody in their division, which. None of us. None of us are coming. And do you know that the rest of their schedule looks easy? They have winnable games, easy. They don't have one game other than at Philly where you'd say, I don't know if they can win. That looks easy. The only thing I would caution about this team under Gruden they've they've played down to the level of the competition, a great deal. So even some of those easy games, I would think they might have some trouble with what was the hardest game they've they don't have any hard games. You can't tell me that Houston and Tennessee the actual right now or or better than them can't say. They're all like we said Monday, they're all you can put them all in China. The terrible capable of into the giants. Pasa best looking backwards. You're looking right, you're looking at the history, went to my first Washington. Redskins came in nineteen sixty. Okay. I know we're vice speaking. You know, my motto, hope for the best expect the worst. And I would point out typically, I'm sure cousins is having a superior year. I don't remember many four into starts with two game leads. He did want to be he. He could not wait to get eleven and salted, which is why. What am I don't blame him off, but for for two to three years, it was made very the one that initiate no, but it was made very clear that they didn't want him and then he did not want them. So he was waiting. He was waiting for the clock to turn so that he could leave this guy wants to any here matters. I, I don't even think I'm not sure. I agree that it's true. I think Kirk cousins would have happily stayed for a market offer, which he was never given. He they, I mean. The situation was exacerbated by the fact that they never made him a reasonable offer for what he had proven he could do in the two years. He played under that franchise tag. So I think we had the red one could do win playoff game after. Afghan statistically perform. Yeah. Yeah. That's. I mean, that's accent of what he did. I'm not gonna sit here and tell you it was a world just to declare that the next month of games. It's the giant this weekend hosting the falcons in their at Alabama, but. They're gonna look. Yeah, that's on the road to. That's going to be. Another team that has had some troubles this year is the Oakland Raiders just one in five and lots of things going on Khalil Mack Amaury Kupa ship, Derek Carr. Well, it's one of the things in this report that says, a fractured clubhouse in the teammates don't respect draw call. And this one piece said, if you look at this picture of mass, these crying his teammates of social media to say, he wasn't crying when you get to that point. When you get to the point where you have to go and social media for whatever your reasons are to say, you are not crying and none of your teammates back you. It's time to leave. It's time to leave. They trade him. They'll get a number one, pick they trade in Jacksonville right now, they get a number one and number two checks. Now today, how about New York Giants? You know, but no Buffalo's got now Josh. Josh. Peterman. The future. They have Josh Allen, the New York Giants and the Jacksonville Jaguars make that trade today for a number one. Yes. Mr Tony, some very sad news from Senator Day O'Connor. She's been diagnosed with dementia and has announced that she will be withdrawing from public life is a very important person in the history of the country. She's woman ever to sit on the supreme court. Everyone thought she was very good Justice when she was there. She left the court in order to care for her husband who was diagnosed with the same thing. I saw her son on television last night. Just very matter of fact about all of this and my mother is withdrawing from public life just from public live, not from in all of these new stories. They've woven in the numbers, the increased incidence of Alzheimer's and dementia because we're all living. So I just would like to read this quote from set out, she wanted to be open to these about these changes. And while I'm still able share some personal thoughts and then she added how fortunate I feel to be an American and to have been presented with a remarkable opportunities available to the citizens of our country as a young cow go from the Zona desert. I never could've imagined that one day I would become the first woman Justice on the US. Wonderful. That's a remarkable really, as you're right. She's a key figure in your country's history. We do have one more story, Mr. toning. This is not very good news for you. The CDC has issued a statement and they are saying they're asking owners of chickens to avoid dressing them up for Halloween. I know this troubles you greatly Alouine chicken in a Batman suit. They said there is a new extremely village strain of Sam Annella. It's very multi-drug-resistant a ninety. Two people in twenty nine states have been infected with the semina- and they say that when you touching. The chicken and putting the costume on it. It's very, it's easier to contract that contract live sheltered life. Why don't know anyone who's ever not of that. Don't have it dressing up a chicken. Don't people keep chickens as pets, genie before the show was saying there's nothing like a warm egg, not a war. Fresh, a fresh eg from world chicken. This is some of it. It's it's a big leap to go from having a chicken to lay eggs to dress up. Yeah. Tipping cows? I don't wanna do if you have a chicken with whom you're comfortable costuming you're probably already having so much contact with chicken that that you've went out. That seminal definitely more of Louisiana said there are people out there that hire themselves out to to a costume, your chicken die on. I'll get to that. I'll get that. About Steph. Stephanie said, can you ever imagine not being able to dress up chickens. China. Bearskin is exposed. I just like to put a sweater on them, actually, maybe Johnny. Oh, sweater. Keep. And people without sweaters. You don't need a sweater j. Peterman sweater buying it for China, not evacuated and she says that more personality. Now, the story goes on to say, there's been a rise in the number of Americans who have chickens as pets in recent years. It says the birds have gone from being thrifty method of getting fresh eggs to a badge of urban. Cool. I know that's I want to be the Washington Post reported that pit chickens of the latest status symbols among silicon valley's leaving. If you have a pet chicken, did a big run up to dress your chicken for Halloween. Listen to what they say. Some of these pampered chickens have diapers, personal chefs in live. Twenty thousand dollar tech chicken coop. Paul k understand that person's yet. They don't have personal chefs stores around and mentioned that you got a personal chef chicken and this closer to home here in Silver Spring, they took to Lauren McDonald about dressing up. Chickens said, I'm not doing that. I'm not getting a chicken. I'm fine getting exit giant or Safeway, and I'm get exit American run on. I would like to see a chicken in a FOX costume. I think that would be kinda great. Yes. So there you go. That's all the news. We'll take a break. We'll come back old guy, radio. We'll talk to Michael swimmer about his baseball experiences and about this really fascinating new career about identifying. Players with major league capability and paying them because apparently in the minors you don't get any money at all which might go with? No, because he played in the minors. I'm Tony Kornheiser. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. Time, this guy radio for the day. This is my dear friend on claim who had new thrown out of his house, upstate New York, but not Baud from a state right. Barry manilow. After I wrote the piece on him, he wrote letters to the editor Rolling Stone saying what a terrible human being. I wasn't. This is this is one of the great tunes ever really. It is. Why are we playing today? The alborn. The album was released on this date in nineteen seventy one album with the thumbprint. Album. The American flag dumb. Yeah. Obviously, he's never really talked about the meaning of the song. I just wrote it and let people knows what. Yeah. Well, you know you auctioned off the notes to the lyrics and it sold for one point, two million dollars. And in that it's about Dylan being the gesture. I'll be kept the money from self. Hope he did. Yeah. And actually when he was asked what a pair of American pie meant. Mcclain's replied, it means I don't have to work again. And in two thousand seventeen Bob Dunne was asking about how he was referenced in the song and he replied a gesture. Sure. The gesture right Soames like masters of war hauled rain's gonna fall. It's all right. Ma some Gesta I have to think he's talking about somebody else ask him. Well, they did ask him and he was talking about. Michael swimmer joins us. Now we have, we have prep this for the entire show you you played locally and you played in the majors. Just describe your background in baseball. Yes, I went to Saint Stephen's right here in Alexandria. Then university of Virginia was drafted in the fourteenth round by the Philadelphia Phillies and the time there was fifty ranch. Now there's forty rounds in the draft. A fourteenth round, pick signing bonus was five thousand dollars. So most people think, oh, you're signing bonuses, this huge number. We'll yeah, for for Bryce Harper and for Strasbourg for first round picks. But down the line, it's much much tougher like Tony's friend who won the lottery. Exactly. And then when you're playing minor league baseball, you're making fifty five hundred dollars a year, and that's all players. And even even Bryce Harper, even Bryce Harper's want. He's he's like super exception. But the first round pick this year? Yes, everybody that's all you make all you make. That's all. And the team doesn't pay for anything. So now you have to find housing all you guys out there trying to find Lisa's. What about getting a six month lease book? You're called up and called down, and now you're and all these cities and it's two months. I mean, if five hundred dollars it, what do you get for that? Do you get you get to? You don't get. No, you get you get food when you're at the field, Ryan provides food at the field and they provide travel and stay on the road, but not at home. So you have to get your own place. You have to find your own food. I mean, it is. I'll tell you the saddest thing I've seen in baseball. Really was. I was in high. It was a closer and I would always work out after I pitched because I don't wanna work out before because you never know when you're gonna pitch as closer. So I finish up. It's about twelve thirty at night or morning, I guess you'd say then, hey, the my car and I hear this wrestling around. I'm like, what's going on? And it was a player on my team in the dumpster looking for half eaten dog. So we can have food for the next day. Fifty five hundred bucks here. That's the six months salad minor leagues, five months. Probably not six months. How do they? How does Facebook get away with that? I've seen. Why does it? Well, it's, I mean, legally, I mean, look, it's it's, it's it's about two dollars an hour and legally there's class action suits. There's issues going on right now, but they save America's pastime. Acquis just passed by in in in in the Trump omnibus Bill that guarantees now minor league sellers, we'll stay that low. So I'm going to assume. And I mean, no aspersions on assume you came from a family that could afford to help you when you were in the minor leagues? I came from a middle class family, but also use now's roughing basketball games. I was babysitting. I was doing whatever it took to get money, so I can have it for the next season. Now my family did help me, but I, you know, look, I graduated college. I was, I'm a man, you know, I'm not trying to get mom and dad can I have some money, so I was trying to do the best I could on my own. I did have support from them. Because the kids have come here from foreign countries don't have that. That's right. They don't have that at all. And it's not just that it's high school guys that are come from under tough tougher families, especially a lot of baseball players come from the south. Seventy. One percent of baseball players have fun staff or you come from come from California, Texas and Florida. By the way, three states, how about seventy one percent? That's that. Wow. Yeah, where you can play your round? Yeah, there's a lot we, that's a whole. We could talk about that, but there's a specialized at eight years old. Yeah, they want sport, but this different things. So this led you, what were some of the cities that you lived in the miners lived in in played for the Philly's so fortunate that was really close to Philip area. Lee. Waves for reading Clearwater Florida, and then got traded in buffalo done eating Florida. When I got traded the Blue Jays after that. And you would, would you, would you room with with a family like where you a border or did you know part you have to get your own apartment? I mean, this reminded this is going to be some great bad radio here, but this room here is pretty long room, and this would fit about eight players. So you just you line the floors with air mattresses mattresses and you have one fridge, and that's what you got. So you came up with an idea. So I came up with an idea, tell us. Yeah, so so with the Phillies I joined the union, I, I always felt that there should be a major change here, and I went to the union with this plan on how to pay minor league players more and didn't work out. And I've always, I always had ended up having shoulder surgery. A pitcher had labor surgery, and that's when I started building the model for what would become big-league advance, which is a company that invests in mine. League players. So they're seven thousand minor league players. All again, fifty, five hundred dollars in less than ten percent will play one day in the major leagues think about the careerist there. And so what we can do with our modeling figure out what is important, a major league sess what isn't value that and then give players money based off of that valuation. So I started I should. I should give Paul de pedestrian lot of credit here. He's my partner in this famous. Yeah, he, he's partner dodge in my opinion, in my opinion, the most influential GM in history of baseball. He's the moneyball guy. Yeah. So we created this thing together. He had just left the Mets joined the Cleveland Browns, and that's why he's football. Well. Another another segment later we talk a lot about that, but but yeah, so we came up with this idea together and we wanted to give players money to help them achieve their dreams, which is making it to the major leagues and also de risk their career. So let's say we give a player, you know, five hundred thousand dollars will if he doesn't make it becomes at ninety percent. He keeps all the money, right? If he does make it, he gives us an agreed upon percentage, and we let the players choose the percent on valuation spectrum. Obviously, the offers are very different on per player basis, but a lot of players do deals for two three percent. And the idea is, let's get one hundred thousand dollars for three percent. That hundred thousand dollars should help you. Now you're not like me wrestling basketball games. You're focusing on your on your dream and maybe get to the major leagues earlier. Maybe you make more than three percent of your career earnings than you would have if you didn't take the deal. So it would seem to me that the two hardest tasks for you would be. One raising the money that you have enough money to do this and even harder is evaluating individual players and saying, I look at that kid and I think that kid is going to make the majors. And do you do this? Is it? Is it just eyesight like the old scouts is at analytics as a combination? How much and what is your percentage of being right so far? So I started off this idea by going to really new to rich gas, so I got hurt, and I said, hey, I want to invest in players. Look, I've been playing since I was five years old. I know baseball. I can tell you who's good news not, and they said, you'll never raise penny, so that's okay. I'll just do some math on this to confirm my beliefs in taking a month or so. Well, after about three months, I swallowed my pride and realize I knew nothing about the game of baseball that that that was my whole life. And so took me more than a year to build this model in this algorithm for it, analyze over twenty eight thousand minor league seasons in order to do it to that was the hardest part now have a team. These incredible analysts about twelve. Deep now that it really the models now so far over my head, but. The things that you're looking at are really process-based not result base, so it's all these advance intellects, but it's it's not like on base percentage away on base percentage. It's for example, Tony. Let's say you want to be a good guy, bad guy in the scenario. I'll be the good, the good, good guy here you go over one hundred one hundred line ounces center. Fielder I'm one hundred one hundred one hundred broken-bat doubles over the first basements head right well in waited in on base, everything on this great player and you stink. Well in our model, you're great player and I stink. Right? So you have to conceptualize everything because that's what matters also who is a hitter who you're facing, you don't get the face bad pitching in the patriot leagues. So I care a lot more about what you do against good pitching versus not. So then you have to value at good pitching us worse, of course. And if it's a full model, exactly, right. And there's a lot of factors pitching that we look at. You have to watch a baseball game. I watch it strictly is. Strictly the model that you have for what makes player a prospect and not. I watch more than sixty baseball games night Tony, which is pretty crazy, but there's TV and I'm not watching full games obviously. So I'm watching places at bats, four minutes a game, certain guys. I'm looking at that we have or that we're targeting and there is some of that involved, but but the baseline for everything is the in the math. And then from there me and Paul, we'll look at these guys and say, okay, upper down and go and go, did you have you had to patent this particular process? No, because if we patent it, then everyone would know what we're doing. So we just keep intellectual property engine success rate. You know, you have less than ten percent chance to make the major leagues. You've got up more than one hundred and thirty players. We're projecting about a well more than half will make it. We've had. We've had a player in the postseason every team, but one this year. So it's fun rooting for our guys. So it's sorta like fantasy in a sense. Okay. If I had to accuse you of everything bad, I assume I would accuse you of exploitation that you would go into poor kids and you would say, sort of like an accident lawyer. I'm going to give you this right now, but I'm going to take a huge, huge deal on the back end. How do you answer that? Yes. So that's when when people I heard about us that that was very common reaction when in fact, I believe we are the exact opposite because again, we are going just because I said more than half the people are going to make it look if we give you five hundred thousand dollars, you gotta play for five years to pay us back. Right, right. So we're going to be profitable in about twenty percent of these guys so keep and that's if we're great, right, right. That's if we're, we could be, you know, a ton of money for right. Twenty cent meeting four out of five guys or making money on these deals. Every individual deal we do at the player. Our expectation is more than half the time. The player will make more money on on doing this deal the not. But obviously we've got a five hundred million dollar guy for five percent. That's twenty five million that's going to pay for a lot of. We can't get the Bryce Harper's. Because they don't need you. Not necessarily. That's that's one thing that I would that I had way wrong in starting. I thought we were going to get a lot more of the guys that need the money in. That's just not the case we have played. We have player signed for four point. Seven, five million are average signing bonus of player that we get is almost seven hundred thousand dollars, and it's because the way they looking at it 'cause I ask them as hey, why are you taking this deal? Whether they say yes or no. And they say, look, the ones that say yes, say, hey, I'm getting money now and I'm not giving up anything because look even if it's ten percent the max, right? If I know him to make three, three hundred million dollars, but what's two hundred seventy million versus three hundred million? That's nothing to me and I get. I get three hundred thousand dollars now when I need the money and and that's the worst thing that can happen to them. Then players that say, no, say, look, you're three thousand dollars now. I know I'm gonna make three hundred million. I'm giving you thirty million backs, terrible deal. Not gonna do it. I don't care. I never sell this to anybody. I just give it as an option to the player and it's up to their risk risk tolerance. At what age. You start looking at players, we start looking at players as early as we can. We don't make offers to anybody until eighteen years old though, but you would look at high school players, but we don't. We have the math and the algorithms based on their minor league statistics. So if you make the major leagues, it's all people that make the major leagues. The average time spent in the minor leagues, five and a half years. That's more than average. Me to do teams hate you like you or don't care about you. Teams love us because this this past trade deadline, twenty four thirty teams last last deadline, seventeen called us asking for advice on players whose backing guys and trades and such, and so on and so forth. And then we use the teams are scouts great. So we say, hey, we got this because there's things obviously, things are algorithms you can't account for work ethic. Is he liked in the club? We had a guy that thinking about making offer to we call the GM of the team is like he was actually got caught stealing from other players. I don't put up with that, you know? So we don't even offer that. That's that's Patrick read in Gulf where nobody golfs different because you're not dependent on teams, but if you're bad McLeod house, some people don't like you. That's disastrous. That's disaster, right? And we don't want any of that stuff. So we, we use a team for help and they use us for help from time to time. And then also we have these really cool pitching metrics that our team develop that can predict when players you're gonna. Hurt at a really, really big time level. So that's when they can get hurt. Yep. Yep. So like if the nationals give us has said Stephen Strasburg when he was drafted, we decided ninety seven percent chance. He gets major surgery and three years which he did what's who's your biggest success? Baseball player was. Well, our deals are confidential, but but I can tell you on the record for Indo Totti's junior, who's the number one prospect in baseball with us? And he went on the record in great support what we're doing and how we're helping players. What is the name of the organization? Big-league advances the company. That's really cool. That's very interesting. I mean, you got a minute, you got a minute to tell me how you'll save baseball. Oh, that's tough. I'll tell you this. I'm gonna go back and jump. Jump on you a little bit here. I wanted to talk about the freeze comments that were made earlier. So what if I were to tell you this is all like the hindsight media bias. If I were to tell you that there's David freeze is going to go to three. Okay. And he was going to drop a foul pop up that he should've caught or you can have Cody Bellinger which when you take. I would probably take the bird in the hand, probably take the two for three and hope that the foul ball didn't hurt me how much. Juries a better he's better play. Oh, no question a better play. And here's the best part about this is now David price is starting and Cody Bellinger will be in the lineup and everyone's been say, oh, they learn from their mistakes. When in the case that's not true. David price is a reverse. Split guy lefties actually hit him, slight to Niger better to ninety three. I ninety one. It's reading the same versus sale is like is devastating lefty. So everyone's going to say, oh, they made this change that they'd mitt, they're wrong. When in reality, the advanced analytics tell you, you put the best player there. Do you think? Well, I'll get you out of here in this and you'll come back at some point and tell me how to save the game. But do you think that we have become slaves to the numbers to great a degree? I say we have become slaves to the wrong numbers. I'm a big numbers guy, obviously. And I think that what people are looking at is not not the best, and I think you have people. On TV that their job is to be entertaining, and that's awesome. And I think that there's a very entertaining people, and then there's people that are supposed to be in the know that have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. John Smoltz. I consider to be one of the best and you talked about it on the show. I'm easily absolute best yet. They're still buys with him. I mean, he was all postseason talking about, oh, there's another hit against the shift. Well, there was three times in the game yesterday, which was there were three times. They did not shift that had they shipped in play the numbers, they would call it and there's there's literally three examples there. There was the. Kershaw overspent attended Kershaw versus Martinez and sale versus Machado all of which had they play the numbers that have been three additional. I thought by the way Machado's line drive that was caught resulted around grumble. That was caught. There was a shift there. I mean, I thought that was right through. I thought that was bringing into Michael swimmer. Thank you very, very much. We will take a break. We'll come back with jingle and some Email. Yes, and this jingle will make Gary very happy. He's a high production qualities, very stellar singing on this. I'm Tony Kornheiser. This is the Tony Kornheiser show. Click said, exta general keyboard on phone. Keyboards once again, and it'll show the ones. Next edit. Then the red button next to 'em. 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