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"Pull oh it's the shipping container talking to you in two thousand and twenty. We're back boys. We are are back Roy. Give me hug are Roy wasn't when he walked in here he wasn't overly abusive in is happiness for being new year. Yeah being back into work like we picked up right where we left off man. It's such a fun field. Don't care It's such a fun feeling today because it's Thursday but it kind of feels like a Monday but sometimes mondays drag. This is like a fun Monday. Mondays are always always a drink. But this one because it's not actually Monday has the feel of a Monday but it doesn't because it's later in the week it's like this. I don't know how to feel. I'm so excited to be back. How are you guys doing what's up? How's your Christmas? I think we're all frigid. Because no one saw studios for several days to breathe a little bit here and well. The good news is Dan's GONNA walk in here and his body heat is I think like approximately one hundred twenty degrees so he should warm everything in this room like a furnace went and sat in his chair because it was warm. Yeah it's freezing but I was often extra week because I was out in London Look at you. It's great to see you you guys. You guys sincerely and I've been doing a lot of reflecting do on the year that was and what have you reflect. Oh I'm I'm I'm making making some changes it resolution. I'm making some changes New Year new. You know well New Year new on air me new. Yeah Yeah I'M GONNA I'm GonNa be you well. I was but people hated it. So I'd definitely change so I gotta I gotta change a little bit. Is it going to reflect the way you've been on twitter. The last couple of days Brown's when I wrote down yesterday on twitter funniest thing and a lot of I got multiple. Oh People Mike the last couple of days on twitter and I didn't really I haven't caught all of it seemed to be with Brown stuff like I didn't really like all right here. Let's this is the browns nothing in particular the browns and the canes. It's weird because sort of remember. You said you're going to be. Let's talk it. Our we know I know I know I know it's this is exactly the worm going. Yep I it's weird because like the way that I found my voice on the show was being a homer but but it was with the heat. Yeah and everybody liked it right. Well not everybody I mean. Nothing's going to be universally praised for the most part. I wasn't getting the bile. I get what you're saying. You were like the cocky he fan. Everyone's like yeah. And then you got your Brown's got good. I'm going to do that again so I don't know if it's because the heat were just good got for the most part the last laugh or just because like most people like those teams and I was playing to an audience more but no one's really a browns fan that's listening and no and the canes I mean in Fifth Place in south Florida. Yeah but I'M GONNA make some changes. I don't know if I need to just be overt in in my phantom. I thought I pretty not much was some dude called me from a block number and curse me out last night. I'm pretty sure he was just a Ravens Fan. I spoke with him telephone number. No dude he was like cursing me out. Yeah I don't know how he got my number but I after being talked to like that so long answer to block number and it was just randall. He called once and I was a little shell shocked by because I was just like the profanities Galore. I just put my daughter down whose two years night I was sort of stunned by. It is still alive just to be. Put her down lake. Yeah Yeah thank you important clarification and like like just chewed me out for thirty seconds. It was just sort of stunned. Silence and about fifteen minutes later. I guess he's still had things on his mind. You GotTa answer so I answered talk about the Ravens. I don't I think it was. You know thought about the Ravens but I. It's pre said something about the Ravens. I was just like because I was like all right so like I've been pretty thoroughly embarrassed by the Cleveland Browns. This year and helpful accounts like freezing cold takes out there bring up lots of old. Yeah Yeah but for whatever reason something that had already been picked up by freezing cold takes got picked up again and I just got like crazy. Mentions from Ravens fees saying that the the browns are clearly all the tweets and cocky stuff that I sent out after the browns had one of their few wins actually against the Ravens. And Look. I'm so wrong on all these things. The part that I'm the part that I've seen I don't think you really need to change. Look this is sports. You had to take you like your team. You're wrong. Who Cares I think is that viable that self reflecting all this stuff like fairly the people like we come to the Lebatardshow to escape and not have like right? Okay I like sports fan guys funny well not so much and already off to a bad start because there's been way too self involved and that was one of the things that are dressing stuff. Were closing the book on the last year. The People this is an ensemble. And it's been too much mia in two thousand nineteen and twenty twenty. I want to share the ball. More dance dance sharing the Volvos. Let's all share the ball more. Let's let's be the heat. Let's be the Miami Heat. You guys watch this team the ball movement. It's like Oh my God it's pretty to watch not kidding. Actually Committee beauty all movement has been insane with this team of people say it has yes movement kept waiting to say ED. How was your Christmas? Bill gets you look at you. You look the same. Please don't call me bill. It was fine. He doesn't wait. It's weird because I eh. I often like go bill head of like. Yeah because I've done it for a while cash and then I go I go bill. I recognize that he doesn't like billy is more Kashmir so I'm trying to correct that that was a twenty nine correction. Yes man what's up man. How how did he lose by twenty two the warrior? Not to to the wizards. The Wizards can score I went to I went to the heat. Game versus the Knicks. Dow Was it's fun. Oh yeah that was that was a dunk. Fez The heat have I. They're not that great without justice when they're that great the justices are Wednesday going ranking. I think I think they were playing their best ball when justice wins. Oh who's just been riddled with injuries this year and Gordon targets. We're healthy and it seems as they were doing that coasting thing against bad teams and then they were sort of coaching against good teams and economic. All these exciting wins at home at Pacers sixers home sand with the one point victories. The spinal sequence against the Pacers that that sixers game was on drugs. That was one of the more fun games of the year that you had them losing. Just because there's a back to back and you would have been fine with them losing or no no because you hate the blending together down the the sixers stuff. Nobody knew what the hell was going on at the end of regulation that the ball had hit the ruined too early. That can't be reviewed viewed Josh Richardson. Throwing the balls into the stands and then missing the Jimmy Butler causing me my my spread because he can't make a free throw in the clutch in the sixth seat. I think right now. Sixers are struggling and Josh Richardson. I don't know if you've read his quotes but he's saying pretty much everything. Jimmy Butler said on his way out that they were crushing Jimmy Butler for between the lines. Yeah but I can't be like that crazy excited about it because I'm trying to make changes. Yeah you can be. You just have to taste when you're wrong matter you. That's the kind of thing I think. Yea I don't think I'd take it and I don't take anything that's what people get mad then. I got to fix that I I think yeah. I don't think he'd take it. Well like on the show but then like I think I've been saying you WANNA make changes and it makes me think that you're not well I I don't know how many people oh can take that stuff row because some people like look man. I got a threatening phone call for forty minutes last night. That's true but you're number. We should probably I should probably let Disney security now. But you know it's just and I was like I let them talk. Yeah it was just like why didn't you just hang up who cares. There's no because I let them talk because I don't I think if I spoke to them because it was weird it sounded like they'd listen to the show and they were all hung up on like you have a national platform platform. You shouldn't be saying these things I'm like. Man I was like you know this guy over fourteen like we don't know anything. Do you know what the job is like. This is like like akin to like calling someone on being upset about a sketch they did. It's not real it's not real. We're just saying words. We gotTA BE WACKY remarkable. It's two guys go for fourteen and still be on really. Yeah yes yeah impossible. You couldn't do it if you'd like. Well he did try and he'd could not get a single game right now. The best part about all this secretly is that he secretly does every week because he thinks he's get this deep down. I know play. He'll come in today buddy. It's great for me. This is awesome but yeah he's trying to hit games. It's weird because we know what sue God is. Oh God I think to a degree also knows God's is but he still goes on Golic and Wingo and they give him this platform which they treat them like he knows what he's was talking about just turns her back on. Listen Mike I agree with you. Go like I love your thoughts on this Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. I I I remember getting incensed watching Golick and Wingo. Because he was like saying Alabama should have been in the College Football Playoff and Utah and it was like okay. Whatever you can have that but I know he doesn't watch I J- I know I know? He's STU gods. I know he's capable of going over fourteen but first time he's done. This started a college season. Like Owen. Twelve quality something also yeah and the. NFL season didn't have very similar. A stretch where he was like over fourteen to. He's he's unbelievable. Well that you should learn from him because he's not coming and saying I need to be different ethnic thing. I need to change this year so people think that I know about sports. He doesn't care. Well I need you guys is to help me change because I like what you did right there to be better with handling the criticisms and being able to take it I need you guys to rein me in because it's a New Year your new Mike and with that we go out to our first call. Oh no I got it okay. How `bout you tease it? I learned something. Oh this break break. We learn because you're making this like it's a thing you know worthy that's it. I'm GONNA tease it. We can go to call now. There's no no no no you. You have the perfect is find out next what you learn Stugatz here. It's a new year the perfect opportunity to take your business to the next level. Oh by hiring the right people. But finding qualified candidates can be challenging ZIPRECRUITER DOT com slash. Dan makes it easy ziprecruiter. 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And here's what he said was the weirdest thing I was a little cold put on a sweater then wasn't cold was it's like was also an obvious. News Gyco makes it easy to save money and easy to reach them with licensed agents available around the clock so switching is a really smart decision. That's that's obvious news from GEICO. Chris Yeah what did you learn man man all right so I heard my my middle finger I cut it. I was doing on Christmas Eve Christmas. Cutting I don't WanNa like you know ruin anything for anyone potentially listening. That was just what I was doing things that parents do late on Christmas Eve for their children. Oh gotcha constructing something. You're making cookies for Santa Right and I cut my finger just a little cut little cutting my middle finger on the inside of it and I was like wow. This is annoyingly painful and it was bleeding for a while I'd elevated above my heart because that's what you're doing you're bleeding. Yeah keep it above. Why are you using a knife to make cookies and I was? I was opening a box and I was using scissors and the box box. Okay yeah whatever. It's annoying for an underrated kitchen. So what did you learn putting your finger hurts. Well no well that I learned that that particular spot it takes forever for to stop lead. Yeah and band. AIDS are very helpful. This is not what I learned. Just a little side so basically I had a hurt finger for a couple of days. This was hurt my middle finger at the tip of my middle finger. Okay so like little things you do in your life you know. We're we're going chase little things that you do in your life. I really wish one of the things that you learn to be more efficient. You don't realize how difficult some things are with that part of your finger. You didn't realize I guarantee you if I said to you you could lose one of your fingers. You'd be like get rid of the Middle Guy and ask not that important. I would definitely lose one of the middle's maybe like my one of my ring fingers middle fingers. You can't lose your here's a couple of things in life that are made very difficult by having an injured tip of a middle someone the middle finger easy. Okay because yeah so. This is what you've learned things at. NC brushing your teeth. What's difficult the chance you know? It's really difficult brushing your teeth with your offhand off. Hanoi need to go home today and brush your teeth with your offense. Do both hands. You go to your left hand. Well I have one of those like electronic toothbrushes so I just kind of have to move move back and forth. I'm just saying I tried brushing my right hand. I was like Ooh that hurts my middle finger so I switched to my left hand. I'm the worst Roy. I want you to go home today. I want you to brush your teeth with your left hand right now. Yeah we'll do that. You might be doing the motion and you might think it's fun but I'm telling you it's difficult. were cut your finger. I don't think I use my I'm telling on you. It hurt and then the next thing. This is the real thing what you didn't learn that I learned that I learned that her like it's hard. Yeah I learned that brushing your teeth with your offhand. Japan is difficult one. The second thing I learned was putting dress shoes on all right. Get Out of your finger get Outta here. Hsun Hor Guy Shoehorn guy. That's no one actually uses a shoehorn. I wish I still had issue there. Yeah they're good tool but they don't WanNa couples them. Don't have one. You're putting on dress shoes when you use is your right hand because I want to your feet use your right hand. I'm telling you your middle finger is so important. It's shoehorn. Your Middle Finger is the shoehorn. When you don't have a shoehorn and when nat thing is hurt you can't put on a dress you so you learn? Basically how important your middle finger is to everyday life. I realized how important Middle Finger was. Yes you you learn how to me. Basically no I mean this is. This is good I I. I've overlooked my middle finger all these years. I've never really given it much. Thought as being one of the most important fingers fingers deadly top five. But I don't know that I put it up there and like what did you learn. Roy Your Look Your judgment. Would you learn this Break that much. Yeah stay at home. I thought I remembered learning something but I forgot what it was. So obviously didn't learn. It took too long. No I remember there was a time. Correct that's helpful New Year. I was like I gotta come strong the first show this topic page. That's what I mean New Year. Same you got more. Let's go ah okay more things. You learned his knee. Hack okay on twitter. Are we allowed to talk about Disney axe Kinda work for Disney. This is what you need to consider is is this. My Cup of noodles are falling. This is something that you need to consider is sharing this Disney hack going to cost you in the future nine like in terms of like your job or whatever but like I kind of think about this also with life hacks and stuff like that when we do like academic or like if we go like I go a place that not a lot of people go. That's awesome. I try not to publicize publicize it because then I don't Wanna a bunch of people going there and then it taking away from the awesomeness so like if this is a hacker something that you do at Disney that helps you like not wait on on the line or whatever I would consider not sharing it just because if you tell too many people then if it's something that they haven't caught onto they'll know and they'll correct it or a bunch which people will start doing it. I'll give you a perfect example. So marlins park. Before this past season this past season they changed their menu to have A. It's called the three zero five five menu right right and though is like or Spanish right so they have different items in this one concession. That's dollars or five dollars right and one of the things is a hot dog and I don't remember if it's three zero five but it's one of them right and then there's like a beer and right and it's just like these discount price. I'd say it this one stand before they had that they had you know all the old concessions a taste of Miami. The you know conferences all that stuff but they had one and stand in center field. That was actually around the same area where they sold a hot dog that was labeled like a hot dog but they would sell to anyone always. Yeah and it was the exact ZAC same hot dog that they sold everywhere else for like eight dollars so I would go to this one. Stand to get the three dollar hot dog because why am I gonNA waste five actually. Yeah Well No. They changed the concessions but I was like very close to the vest. I think I may have told you guys telling me but I was like. I'm not going to tell everybody. There's three dollar hotdogs there because yeah you know what if this was an oversight and I want people finding his three dollar hot dog and then we correct it and I had season tickets. When you're so I was there a lot? I'm not about paying eight dollars for a hot dog that I could get for three dollars. It's like the the mobile passport. Yeah so many people that I've told about that are so thankful. Yeah you need to be careful about who you tell these things. It's a little too risky. I would never really tried to pull this off. I'm curious if it's how all right this guy says it was someone on twitter. Just also tweet this. Did you spend a lot of time on twitter and instagram and stuff over the break. I I actually need to keep touch on like the the show I was trying to. I was like marking stuff for the show a little bit. But I tr- I said to my wife like like the twenty fourth or twenty something. I'm GONNA stay off social media till New Year's like it lasted like twenty minutes. Yeah like instagram. I was on instagram. A lot more than it was on twitter twitter. I deleted the APP on my phone really. Yeah that's probably a good call by by you. I need to say on twitter because the the show promotion and like the Chelsea stuff. I generally a lawyer. Twitter for work is just old. Yeah it's yeah. That's that's the reason that I mean. I Yeah I mean. It's just good for markings. I did a catch up session. Yeah the day before yesterday and yesterday. Oh like catching up on like everything. I was watching sports on. I was watching the news and stuff so I knew what was going on. I just didn't know what like you know. Random people thought about all right so the Haq is he says you book a Disney Hotel. When you book that you get fast passes sixty days in advance? Yeah and you can cancel your hotel after that and you keep the fast pass. Oh Wow you book it Paul. I mean I'm honestly honestly alerted was. Yeah that's what I'm doing right here. Disney doing this just saying I don't WANNA get in trouble for earth unearth. Listen I've been watching a lot of prison break over the break. ooh Wee season season two. I just finished season to season two. It's great yeah I wa. I've seen it before but I'm really watching it now with my wife. Oh man it's such A. It's such a good good show but it falls apart toward the end. Yeah Yeah Yeah but what I'm telling you is. This is what I've learned. She's speaking here foot information. Put out there because like I. I made a mark mark of this and even saying this. Now I'm risking my life. Who are if the company hears about this? I'm not talking about Disney. I'm talking about the company. You may disappear like if their interest is not letting people know about about the whole fast pass Disney hotel situation you may vanish. We may look back at this if this even makes it out being the reason. Why probably won't David David Johnson? Next an interesting creature inhabits the flat arid plains of many an automobile dashboard the bobblehead. It's most agreeable and will not along to talking despite having no brain function but when the bubble had here's how GYCO not only save people money but also gives them access to licensed agents twenty four seven online and and over the phone deal not even more vigorously because he knows you should switch because yes switching to geico is a no brainer easy. Pablo had easy. You can get whiplash. They are not the decade with our local. Our guests our friend David Samson it is twenty twenty when he and there were a lot of people doing decade list. So David Let's start with your movie review which I think ties into this theme. Yes so I wanted to think about all the movies I keep keep track of every movie I watch I write it down and then it makes it very easy for me to go back and ranked so I have a top one hundred list and I went through this whole decade. And this WHO's GonNa create a problem and what bothers me about these lists. Is everyone judges them. And my real view of it is just make your own list but you can disagree with mine but this is and the number one movie of the entire decade for me with David O Russell movie called American Hustle. Where in that movie? The song was dirty work It's a movie with Bradley. Cooper Amy Adams Christian Bale and I found it to be perfectly active perfectly written visually incredibly stimulating. Amy Adams looked incredible. Edible Christian Bale grew that big stomach and it wasn't fake like you actually. He's the guy who gains the way to lose the weight depending on the roll like so the fighter when he became anorexic and then for this movie where he basically got to eat donuts all day every day and the movies just brilliant in terms of character development and how it ends with the complete complete the ratio of every bit of work. The Bradley Cooper had done with his permit curls like from coming to America Was the member that there was red and that is So so for me as I look through all the movies and all the choices I had American hustle one I had inception into and I had interstellar three but the runaway winner for me was American. Also if you haven't seen it and turns out many people haven't it is well well worth your time. So you're big. Christopher Nolan own guy He's he I I view things sort of as if you're on an island and stranded and you can only take one director and watch his entire your library of films over and over because you're stuck on this island forever. Christopher Nolan's right up there is the guy who I would take 'cause you're talking about inception you're talking memento you're talking about movies that you can watch over and over again. The only other possibilities brin comedies like the movies like fletch which you can watch over and over and find new lines. Every time that the problem is there's no great library in that regard. Maybe Chevy Chase. That could bring all of his movies but for a director is probably going to be Nolan. Tarintino up there for me Just in terms of re watchable films all time films. He actually did a podcast. gwen tarantino join the ringer for the re watchable. podcasts cast and he reviews dunkirk. So I WANNA put that on your radar that that might be a fascinating. Listen Quentin Tarantino talking about Christopher Nolan movie you know Glynn Tarantinos movies are are a great call because of their running time so if you have a lot of time on an island you know. He's going three clutch pretty often and so. Oh that's something you could pick up a Lotta days. Just watching his library on an airplane rewatch Once upon a time in Hollywood. I was worried that this wouldn't be high on the re watchable scale but the performance is really are just so great. I can't take my eyes off of Brad Pitt. I even if I know it's coming. I'm just so fascinated by his performance. Do you think this is a big year here for Brad Pitt. In terms of award season that best supporting actor categories looks absolutely stack this year. Yeah I think he's got a good chance at a nomination. The Golden Globes are going to be an an interesting thing. That's coming on January fifth. The thing about once upon a time in Hollywood I was just talking to someone about that movie and that person had no idea the Who Charles Manson was in terms of how he's in that worked into the movie and this is after seeing the movie so I quickly moved on to talk to someone else because if if you don't actually realize that that was a movie about a Hollywood ending of a crazy serial killer moment in time? I fear you've actually missed the entire hire movie. I WanNa talk to you about the biggest sports news that there is right now and that is the the passing of David Stern I I know you took to twitter and you had thoughts and people can check out your programme. Nothing personal podcast is out now. Check it out support David. He's been great to us and that's a good show your thoughts on what David even stern men to American sports. Well he meant a lot more to NBA Athletes and NBA owners in terms of his ability to create value is unprecedented. If you're talking about a tough guy started off as a lawyer at our Rosa Law from New York He then started working as general counsel also for the MBA. And then became commissioner. After Larry O'Brien and what he did is he expand leave by seven teams that a lot of money for owners but then he made the the the players the focal point of marketing both locally and internationally and by doing that he changed the rules of how we can raise revenue and increase visibility and basically football and baseball and hockey and every sport has been tried to copy that in in terms of making their brand global. So David Stern goes down in history for me is to me the number one commercial commissioner. In any sport of all time time and number two the one who created the most value by tapping the markets. Everyone's been trying to instill trying to do right now. I know you have to adjust for inflation him but I've seen the stats and apparently revenue revenue for the NBA was under forty million dollars when he took over and went up to five point. Five a billion dollars by the end of his reign as commissioner. I know you have to adjust for some inflation. Put that is one hell of a return on investment. Well one of the things that people may not remember the NBA in the old days. I don't know if people remember the cocaine scandals So many issues with the players that was a related ability problem that really was reflective of America who is a highly African American league. There's really no European influence and it was. There were so many social issues and that was creating revenue problems when I was younger the NBA finals were tape delayed late at night on television. That and I'm not that Oh we're talking about you know early eighties Late seventies before burn magic came on now. He got lucky in that he had bird magic and Jordan to help the propel his commissionership but the thing is that a lot of people can get a lot of walk but then they don't know what to do with it it gets ruined and then it's gone forever. He took that moments mentioned time and he used it to buttress his vision for the NBA. And it just worked it flat out. Work David in your in a recent episode. Sort of your podcast. Nothing personal with David Samson you talked you broke down The trade the famous trade the Blue Jays marlins trade which is really cool to hear especially being a marlins fan just like you gave a lot of details about the inner workings of that deal and one of the things you revealed was that you guys ended up getting just Nichelino but apparently on the table for you guys was just a flat-out Nichelino or thor Noah syndergaard and obviously you know hindsight's twenty twenty but is that the biggest name in terms of a star or a guy you guys just could have easily had and what made like. What was it about thor that you guys were like? We're GONNA go with Nichelino. Well the first thing is your question is myspace in misplacing. Listen here's why he wasn't sore then remember. This was a young. He was an eighteen year old pitcher who had tremendous velocity. He had no secondary pitches at the time and he was a right handed pitcher. And we're all a victim of our past and we had a player back in the day named Matt Lindstrom who also could throw a hundred as all righty did not have a secondary pitch and could not be a a big time major league. We thought Justin Nichelino was lessee. We knew he was a lefty. You always take a left the overriding. He had great pitch ability. He didn't have the stuff that syndergaard had or projected to have more major league ready much better command of his breaking can stuff very good. Command overall didn't walk a lot of a lot of batters. We thought he was the safer. Pick to actually become a major leaguer. If we had known that syndergaard would become sore. I mean obviously you look back and you just say Damn we missed it completely. But that's not the only miss the only one I think of in that trade but we were shedding so much money and getting out from under so many bad deals that having the choice of Nichelino or syndergaard thought about it scouted it and shows Nichelino no but I don't regret that trade even with that big mistake in terms of trades on the opposite end so obviously you would not redo the Ugueth Urbina trade. Because you've got a world series is out of it. But you lose Adrian Gonzalez. Is there another player that you can think of then at one time was a Marlin that went on to become great but never played as a Marlin. Well I you know. Andrew Miller comes to comes to mind when we traded for him in the We Got Andrew Miller Cameron may have been in the Carreira Trade and and we were absolutely shunned for that and I gag because he's a hall of Famer but we couldn't afford him period to resign him and if you see the way. His career turned out definite. I out hall famer but right. Now he's been part of a team because he's making so much money they can't win in Detroit. But we got backgammon. Andrew Miller along with a few other guys for enough genius delacruz etc.. Mike Rabelo but maybe Miller were two of the top five prospects not with the Tigers in the entire sport they were the two of the top five prospects of the entire Major League Baseball and they both missed for us now. They're both still major leaguers all these years later so they've had successful careers but Andrew Miller was supposed to be an eighth left who was throwing ninety eight a starter who is going to be randy. Johnson he had funky mechanics but they were repeatable and maintainable. He had perfect command. He was perfect in every way camera. Maven was going to be a middle of the order. Power guy it for average speed. Aren't everything these were. Can't miss prospects. There's not one GM at that time or even today. Who would tell you that looking back at that moment? Getting both Mabon Miller that hurt Dombrowski to make that deal. Obviously he got Cabrera got a world series appearance out of it. He was getting a superstar but they had to pay to get them and they just neither of them really worked out for the Marlins but Andrew Miller ended up becoming one of the top bullpen arms. In the game For many many years I meant more along the lines of Adrian. Rollins is someone that became great. That was once a Marlin but never ended up playing for the Mars because you traded for him to get youth arena to win the world series. If there's someone else like that he's is the best example of someone the Marlins had but never played for the marlins but ended up being great that they lost as you know like a smaller deal. Kind of like the thor thing would have happened for the blue bluejays. Had he come here or he's worked out obviously for the mets. But if you guys have a piece that you moved in a trade that seemed inconsequential at the time but ended up being a great player. I'M GONNA have to go back in the annals and bring that up it's a great topic for nothing personal for you guys next week. I'd have to go back. I keep a list I just don't have it here of trades and I go back you know executives always say they never looked back and they make trades and they move on. It's like when you're in the stock market and you sell facebook no two days after it started and you say you say you don't think about it. Of course you do. I think about all the traits that I made and all the players. We've traded away. Who got good? We didn't think would be or we took back. We thought would be good and wouldn't and weren't good good so I'll come up with a great list Peter Next week or sometime on the pod rapid fire there wasn't a trade made by the marlins organization when you were with it that you didn't have some input in was there no but but remember input. His differently by input was a lot on the financial side. I would look at the players and what they were making. What what they would be be making in the future work that into a payroll that I thought we'd be able to maintain given certain revenue assumptions but when it came out like sore versus Nichelino I would not get an opinion because I hadn't seen either of those players so on the minor league side when minor leaguers were involved raids. I would not get involved but signings for sure or free agent signings and trade big league players. I would definitely be part of it but I would always let certain scouts. There were certain people in the organization who I would listen to more and starting to who I would listen to Because they I valued some opinions more than others. It happened before I believe you guys got to the marlins but Johan Santana was a part of the marlins organization as a rule five picking then subsequently Delta the Minnesota twins. That would be an awesome one if it were you. Were you even aware of that I. That's the the first I've ever heard of that. I did not know Santana was a Marlin not many people. Do I thought it was urban legend. I had to Google it but he was indeed a rule. Five pick for the Florida. Marlins and Dan finally his name has been mentioned a couple times in this segment. Have you spoken to Ugueth Urbina since his incident down in I mean the incident is certainly one way to put the machete attack. I yeah Yeah so he. He went to prison. we were in touch a little bit with his agents twenty when he first went to prison But then lost touch completely and I actually don't know what became of him. There are very few players from the world series team votes. Three a WHO. I've completely lost touch with one. Is You get the being who I spent a lot of time with Montreal. We had him with the expos when I was there. Back in two thousand and two thousand one and the others wanting wanting Nazione and it's a much sadder story he was a big part of our championship team Played in right field for US. And he got hit in the eye standing in the on on-deck circle and lost sight in his eye and was obviously forced to retire and he disappeared. He doesn't do. He doesn't respond to any Calls that we made over the years for reunions or to come be a part of the organization doing alumni events we just never had contact with him again and that was always sad he was always such a nice nice man in such a good player and he just talk about bad luck when you're on the on deck circle and a foul ball hits Him Square in the eye and that was it. That's a real bummer. And this one all right I looked up as Johan Santana thing and I'm kind of confused about it so a you obviously know how these things work David. So I'm wondering if you could explain Elaine this situation so after this according to compete you after the nine hundred ninety nine major league season you'll have to. Hannah was left unprotected by the Houston Astros and eligible in the rule. Five Live draft. The twins had the first pick that year in the MARLINS had the second pick. The twins made a deal with the MARLINS that the twins would draft jeered camp with the first pick in the MARLINS would draft Santana. The teams would exchange the two players with the twins receiving fifty thousand dollars to cover their pick. Why would they do that like why would you not? Just if you have the first pick any what Johan Santana take your head Santana. And the MARLINS would take this jared camp so in in in rule five draft the reason what what that means. Is You only have a certain a number of spaces on your roster when you draft a rule five player. What that means is that you have to carry that player on your Major League team? The entire course of the season or that player there has to be returned to his to his original team when you switch spots in the order. You're doing that. It's not a cost issue. Actually if there must have been a reason that camp when I I've never heard of camp in he never. He was not a Marlin when I was there. I can't remember him as a twin ever so he must have had no career whatsoever and the marlins must've gotten something else out of that In terms of taking Santana and then moving him up back to the twins there must have been something else is involved the fifty. It could have been money. They'd Marlins could have gotten more money. That was under John. Henry and Dave Dombrowski so I was not a part of but when you switch picks like that you're doing it to try to get from extra money all right. Thank you so much for joining us this week. Nothing personal with David Janssen. Check out the pied thank you. We'll talk to you next week. Be careful out there okay. You will the Miami. Dolphins have found the quarterback of the future and he is thirty seven years old before we go to. What is going on out there that we have to be very order? A happening called her in here than it is out. That's true I mean walking South beach at six. Am today it was still dark out. The streets streets had a different feel certain is ocean drive open. It was closed. They just all the bars. I saw Chris yesterday. We were talking about it. All the bars had like just their stuff. Taking up like one lane of traffic is just close. It seemed like it was probably pretty crazy here. Yeah yeah I mean also the Orange Bowl. Don't forget yes when you go to the when you arrive at the airport. There's all sorts of Orange Bowl. Sign Edge IT'S A it's a big deal you know lots of cavaliers fans coming in here. Ryan Fitzpatrick won a football football game at New England. Ryan the the Miami Dolphins One avenue in Gamma-ray. We did all right. You're the you're the dolphins fan. You have have to be super stoked. I know it's such a big year for you. You I know you were all in on the tank found. You found a coach. Anything I was. Well Yeah Dude. Goosebumps that speech after. They beat the dolphins gums. I mean after they beat the Patriots. Dude yeah man I mean I was all in for two like I was taking because I thought that was our best way to get to answer. I mean and everyone now everyone everyone I mean I am I missing. Something is to of this guy that she was going to be injured forever. Now like because that's the only reason you wouldn't take him here man. There's no way you could predict that sort of thing like to announce that he's going to announce s on the sixth his decision. No one really has is a press conference to say they're leaving. That's not really something that we have. We seen that before. I hope so. We don't do conference to say he was staying staying. I think people have press conferences to say they're going to stay this transport. Oh by the way we don't need to get into that. He must be waffling. He must be waffling thing. Because all the dolphins brass went out to the citrus bowl and just to see him walk into crutches like and it. Why would they do that unless they were like? We need to go out there to tell him. You could tell a lot by the way an injured person walks on there. That's what I'm trying to say. Why why would they go out there for that other than to like me with him to just be like pleased? Talk to the talk to the staff. Not just him arc easy and it's not just him doing there. There's a lot of MB NFL prospects aspect in that game. And they're all. I saw this picture. There was like seven of them there. It would be weird if to help the press conference to announce he's leaving just because we don't really see that usually when someone announces their intention of the NFL draft. It's you know something on social media statement and begun with it. You don't really. I don't know so if the plans are for people to attend this press conference or if this is a branding opportunity kinda there were rumblings beforehand to before this announcement of an announcement come. The tool was leaning towards staying will. Now you're now you've got me worried again like I was. I was in the camp of. He's definitely gonNA come out and the dolphins need. I thought the debate they were GonNa have is should the dolphins pull the trigger on him at five. What would you do if you're what if you were to? What would you do because I saw similar stuff on twitter later where people were saying? How if he goes wherever it is that he's projected to go he'd get like nineteen million dollars but if he comes back and he's the number one pick he get thirty million so he's causing himself ten million by going into the draft but he was supposed to be the number one pick this year and then he got hurt? So there's let's say those are the figures right wherever he gets drafted. There's one thousand nine million dollars. Guaranteed if he gets that right or he can roll the dice to try to make another ten and he could get hurt again and not the number one pick again. I would think if you come back and I'm just thinking aloud. Why not? Just don't even play like just sit out a year but like beat Alabama Rehab and then just because uh-huh besides Lawrence Lawrence's drp it outside of that. This is a deep quarterback because you could Willis mcgahee sort of why not why Rehab at Alabama when you could rehab have with an NFL team presumably better training staff. But I mean Alabama's at the top level. And you guys are freaking me out now man. I wasn't even like I guess I've been seeing the stuff on twitter because I did not know I thought he was definitely like I just assumed coming. I would say that ten million dollar thing is interesting but you do also get to your second contract. You're sooner too so you do maximize the amount of money that you can make in the pros if you come out early in age actually knows exactly what this breakdown is. And he's getting some sort of counseling without signing with one. It's just a roll of dice though like if you go back to college. You're not getting paid while you're not getting paid but you're like hoping that nothing. Nothing goes wrong next season. And you come back and your number one pick and you could also regress to your. Why would you WanNa Lawrence was the best quarterback ever in the history of college football ever? Everybody said this is is the greatest guy that's ever played college football. And then you Kinda wasn't this season. I was absolutely back. I exactly. That's what I'm saying. But if Trevor Lawrence this year if he was in the draft where do you think he'd be drafted he wouldn't go borough. I think I think he would. I think he's animal unpick if he comes out this year. Yeah I was interesting. It's all right dude dude. What's interesting about that is that they changed their whole system up and like they were the RPO stuff look at us doing a sports segment? RPO stuff and like that's the big part of why the offense was so good this year. So I'm like. Did he really make this jump and his this elite quarterback or did he just have a great system this year. I'm wondering if he's a seventh grader. Just playing against a bunch of fifth graders you you know like he's older. He's been in college. He's obviously if there's talented younger players. No no no no. I'm talking about your borough. Jonesboro was in Ohio state. But he's twenty three. He's older than Chris Wink. He's Oh he's older than the March ad. Yes he's older than Lamar Jackson. Yeah what's so weird it is you know I I saw Joe Borough play last year against University of Miami when they started changing their offense obviously took another leap and he himself took a leap. Yeah but we played against Miami. You look at Joe Borough and I was like that's an Lsu quarterback. He wasn't the reason why we're down borough before the season started. That's why I was like Ed ever and after I saw them play I was like that's not really that's not. He's not great. He's not going to be the answer that everyone hopes for. I think he was like eleven for twenty four one hundred and twenty yards. It wasn't very very impressive and to see the leap that he made. He's one of the greatest college quarterbacks we've ever seen he's fantastic. That's GonNa do like he's not going to be that in the NFL right. I don't know if you're asking the second thing. He's just good at college now. He's he's certainly a better thrower of the football than than Tibo is back to to if you're asking what I'm as Dolphin Alphand Fan. Just kind of hoping happens. He declares out the dolphins take him. Roll the dice. You have a million picks. This is what you did this for like yes. We don't know he's going to be great he could be an injury. You're prone guy but he's thought of as this great prospect so roll the dice. LET'S TRY TO I. I'm with you taking. I don't know if I had to put money on it right now. I think it comes back. I I'd be interested in like the do people announced when they leave me nervous. Now what do they do if you go. Let's just let's go down the path Hatha he goes back so too is out of the question. Now what are they doing is it. Herbert ferber played well last night. Is he going before them a five. There's I mean the teams that are taking. The redskins aren't look. Maybe you don't go young quarterback. I'm not saying bring back Ryan Fitzpatrick who's thirty seven years old and his Health Chan Chan Carigali thought of that. Like what Chan Gailey is. What we're doing? I was GONNA say Tom Brady. And Philip Rivers might also be options more veteran quarterback but by Philip rivers chain. Gayley was very puzzling. We saw with the offensive coordinator. I thought you guys kind of dug the offense coordinator considering how the dolphin sort of finish is the season. I don't know man. I mean I guess changes you just gotTa make changes when you go five and eleven people thought you were going to win no gain. You're actually five and fourth north final nine weeks but keep in mind off his two first round picks next Gulf next year too so they have three this year to next year. Oh let's talk about it I'm like rifling through my papers if you guys hear any of this going on because I'm trying to find I have so many records here in front of me. I'm trying to find your dolphins. preseason thing because I think that you were close to being right like you didn't have them winning one game. You think you had them like yeah you had in the four to six range. I'm pretty sure and I'm just trying to find it to see if we can get some closure on. I'm trying to find this. I got caught up in the air. I'm trying to yeah. I got caught up in the air because I was trying to find this article in which local I've absopure couches. Aim because I was trying to go through papers. I'm local south. Florida coaches rate in on. What are some of the issues facing the Miami Hurricanes Program and I think they all sort of agreed that it's because the Miami hurricanes don't pay players who are local south Florida coach like high school? I think a lot of them were on name because they don't want to put their business out there. They're saying that other like their players are getting getting paid by other programs. Why would they do that? But I sort of heard that I'm like yeah I understand. That's why we can compete for a national title. But we also have thirty three more four to five star recruits then Louisiana Tech Gloss at Duke F by You and Louisiana Tech. I mean this is not exactly Alabama boosters that are having these recruiting websites and star Dr Recruits. That's like you do that before you know whether they're good or not once you get to the drafted people is where you really know if you have good players the two thousand one team at seventeen first round draft picks on it this past decade the Um had four first rounder Scott you put into those sites honestly. That's my point like come on. Yeah but how many high the schools are there just in Miami. There's probably like what forty thousand fifty thousand eight the United States that have really. How on Earth could you possibly rank like their third? It really is a cycle of like you have this factory in Miami. That's a good school. If you if the number one receiver there is runs a four something a good forty time. It's like that kid goes to that school. He's the number one receiver four star. You know what I mean like Saint Thomas I don't that much deeper. Thomas Aquinas. Your four-star like no matter you work you had this good workout video three and a half stars like I just. I don't know how much but I do know that. Miami's getting better players than the we had a test right right. And there's there's still losing to them. It's a great a problem. I think the Alonzo highsmith rumors for those. That might not be familiar with that and again just for the local audience. There's talk that there's going to be a chief of staff for like the football department that that's one of the sort of solutions at the University of Miami is looking at because and it would make the Miami Hurricanes Canes fans very happy Alonzo Highsmith is held in very high regard. Down here Has A personnel background cares about the program. Many think would would be someone when that would be there to protect the program. Make the right hire. If he were given sort of power over the program does that Power Undercut Blake James. How much say does play James? have in the hiring this position but one of the reports. That's out there is many is in too hot on this idea and I haven't confirmed it myself. I people were wondering why why. Why does Manny Diaz have any say whatsoever? Canes fans are not too hot on manny. Yeah like shut up Manny Diaz. You have no say here. But there's talked to many has has contract language that protects them from this position being created. which like if they brought in Alonzo highsmith he would be a breach of contract for many years? Yes I love which I say breach that Damn Contra I love other essentially bringing in a GM which is what people say. We want to stick to contract when he left temple after ten minutes very true. Bill you found it you found it. What did I do what did I okay so I was rifling through papers for no reason because I I was smart about it and I put it in a doc had put it in a dog but I forgot that I did that so that it would be easy to find so one would argue that? This was an easy feeling. Thought one though because I'm going to get the actual dolphins results have have you. You've predicted and I want to get the actual results right next to it. Okay so you WANNA go game by game. Yeah all right here we go Roy. I know you're on this. Yeah sure a New Year new Roy Week One yes. That's all changed versus Ravens. Yes loss Chris had them at a loss and they lost. We're GONNA do. I feel like at this pace. Starting you had them story through week eight they were one and five six. You didn't have them winning until week. Eleven tie against the jets in week nine which was their first actual win fast forward through all that you know you had their first. I win against the steelers at the steelers week. Eight so them one six you had you had you had five wins. You got the exact number of wins right. You just had different games contagious. fist-bump bills you win. They lost that. One you had the beating. The browns nailed it. Basically you got the number right. You just got different games. I actually feel like I did a pretty good job of this team because early on. You're like like worst. He felt like guys relax. Just like you know they. I learned off schedule. This is really early. You you made. These picks may twenty second. And whenever revisited this I always said tough schedule. Go finsider Chris Hogan can you name the four first round picks this past decade eight from the the Miami Hurricanes Mike because I feel he's the only one that's gotta shot from this decade like the past decade like the all the ten nineteen first round. There was the I thought my terrible often sublime and they got picked by the giants Eric. What's flowers is a Jenkins no no. It wasn't Jenkins so it was a corner. There was a corner that got up I. I'm looking at him. I had never. He was drafted number. Thirty one let me go. David no was in a first round pick in jokue and I mean think was there another tight end. WASN CERNAN Duke. Johnson was not I that was my guest. I thought he was for some reason. That was like when I start. Play this game before I looked it up. I was like Duke Johnson and I was wrong. He's not afraid trump. was there a linebacker or safety. Who is on the right track I think with the corner? Yeah so it's two corners. No one's receiver. Oh who's the receiver. He Philip Door said. Oh Oh yeah that's right. He's been a nice little career bit of a bus like for where he was drafted. Did he still in the league. Birds already burns. Yeah all right all right. Good that I learned I learned about your Middle Finger and now I learned about about the Ford guys. Bad News off great. It doesn't seem like the finsider is still a thing. Shut out the John Cangemi. But the finsider with a P. H. is a thing and that's the dolphins you ever. Did you ever find it weird that John Jimmy was like doing Dolphin Steph. What what is his background? Dan Marino's backup in college. Wow now it makes sense why he was doing insiders.

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Day 5 of No Sports and Remembering Game of Thrones....featuring John Collins

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Day 5 of No Sports and Remembering Game of Thrones....featuring John Collins

"What's going on Bell? What's the word I have no idea what the fuck the Texans are doing neither do the Texas as well here? We're we're in lockstep on that. I just terrible they. It's like when when the Marlins beat the Yankees Back in three like they beat the they finally beat the Patriots. No like up time to blow it up. Do nothing more for us to do. They just like I'm sure. Like Corona virus says most of the world's sick downdraft hopkins for a running back. Are you feeling now? Listen run based me. Getting tagged traded to get paid suffice. It to say I'm Down Bay between this them canceling hammed. I can't imagine you've been in good spirits. Rules poem postponed as dictated by management. I just hope they can settle on a date where everyone can be in town It can just be get spirits backup. I hope so man. I'm being really spread thin here. This virus shoot the hair hampers ball. The Black Man's luncheons coming up. No one cares to think about that. On my plate the Hamday postpone. And now this deandre hopkins getting traded for running back. There was probably about to be cut. I I've I ventured out into the world today to get to get Like what I see everyone. Buying Asked related items. I'm like these hoarders stock up on baby lives. I'm legitimately fucked you tear through baby wipes like listen. I tear through baby white so I get like no joke and we're proud leaves into managers because we're still new at this but at least twenty five thirty day like just tearing through them so I was like if the hoarders get those fought so I went out to target and I like I scoped out the scene before I went in and there was no one in there. It was dead so I was like all right Gordon again. It is what it is I went in not not a shred of toilet paper to be seen. One package of adult Bought wipes collect took those delays remind three singular rolls of paper towels I grabbed two as to not be addicted. They told me I had to remove one from my car. I was like all right. I feel like you probably aren't doing those two days ago but alright listen. I can assure you that probably were at that. I was like all right me head over to the baby's action I got one pack of eight hundred wipes out another pack of five sixty okay. That's right yeah so next week. Hopefully they'll be back in stock and I'll be able to do a similar. I mean we should take seven the TSA. Why I've I've figured she'd have a job by now. But there's no one's hiring at the moment so it's listen like my old man told me when I got to college. Smack DAB in the recession is no substitute for high workmate. You tell her to get a briefcase a suit and tie and go door to door handing a resume. That's how we beat these kind of things. Listen we were millennials. When we got out I don't even know what generation this This leach is. I can't even imagine Zuma Zumur. They kind of went straight to exit. Y Z. Wasn't right there. Gen-x sounded too cool. They had I did it. Generation Y and Z to now. Okay now what would it cost my boyfriend at? Twenty fifteen as generation double layer. Yeah uh-huh generation a we. We skipped all the way to the back of the alphabet. Whatever we going beauty suit Nola now. Maybe it's a huge for the cardinals out tremendous like I'll say it again. I said every time and I thought he was second team this year. My Baby's still first team all pro Dander was if this is the price per all pro talent. Every single team should trade for everybody. I'm a firm believer in acquiring all pro talent for the price of a second round. Pick based just listen. That's what got that exact line of thinking got you run out of Detroit and I don't know why you listen to hear you. Tell morning where he can come talk to me like a man. I The reason I told that story so I wasn't. I didn't get that information until like two hours after it happened. And the first tweet I saw was cuyler. Adding De'andre Hopkins. This feels like tampering to the highest degree teammates. They haven't been in any. Oh then I was like oh cardinals. Must two three four first round? Picks not a one tyler. Not a single first round pick was traded clowney and Deandre Hopkins did not get a number one go. There's a list of all the wide receivers again traded for a number out First harbor Roy Williams Joey Galloway peerless. Price Keyshawn Johnson Brandin Cooks Brennan. Clydes you Cooper Oto Beckham Junior Randy Moss Down Dre Hawkins. But there's an ex buys name because it doesn't apply interesting. Irag well. I'm sure the cardinals in like two years. We'll flip for first because they'll still be a first team all purse either by then and I was really trying to understand the logic like I know it's the new hot thing is no big name. Receivers of ever won the Super Bowl like recently. There's running back for now. It's like many Tonio Brown's braves so it's like okay. I even get that. He has three years left on his deal and wants to renegotiate. They don't want to renegotiate. Okay I get that sell a year earlier before a year late. I don't hate it. You have to get value for a running behalf not value not even a writing like broken running back. Yeah like legit one is probably GONNA be cut back if they traded. I'm trying to think of a comparable player like if they traded for. It'd be like okay. I could see like that's worth it. They don't even know like a corner coming off an injury like that or like it didn't have to be injury just like a young. I can never remember. Nfl address number one draft. I can pretty much put the rest of it together. Nfl No sir. I was Carson Palmer. A Graham who went to their year like Barclay was two years ago. Yuck I don't what is what is Watson. Thank right now. He just needed to the deal so that he can retire like Andrew all the Garrett put all the guaranteed money in the first three years. Just call it a day yeah. I'm just scrolling through the twenty eighteen draft if they traded him for Edmonds the Linebacker from Baltimore versus like okay. The second round fit like Oak. I see the visit. You're trying to get likes or they get at Derwin or something. Yeah we think it'll be healthy. I okay you're trying to give value that our valuable position a running back a damn running back. Carlos was fine and Duke. Johnson was like the Texans. Running game wooden spectacular. But will they. That's the thing that piece all that together and and I keep saying spring training so in my mind Preseason yeah correct in preseason and it was good it was. It was a good like cow's I'd I'd I WANNA say career year and do Johnson's bend the same running back. He's always been which is really good so I don't understand what like the second round I to your point. This receiver class is a build is one of the deepest. We've ever seen so if you want to replace him with someone in this draft. Yeah Get the vision there too. The other piece just can't be an egg in the first round so you can fucking get one of the good ones not like They seven us they have on Hopkins. Arizona was even that bad this year. So that's what I am like. A top of the second round pick. Is it now like forty four? Something like hide rush for eleven hundred yards on four and a half yards a carry. Do Johnson four hundred yards on five yards a carry. Do Johnson also caught sixty two passes like why? That's one of those. If you had those two guys and David Johnson got cut. It's like hot now detonate. Yeah let's see if he can great if he gets a fastball for cooking I'm not trading for his. Yeah he's got a big deal. It's this year next year. Hopkins has two more. So it's like okay. Well we don't want to negotiate with that so you train them for running like I can't believe sickening and that that receivers stat line. No top receivers WANNA SUV. Like that's nice and in theory like. Julio didn't lose them that game right one you can do it for every position that so at shifts and to if you go through. It's like a Lemay wouldn't Antonio Brown's fault subtle steelers didn't might come through. That guy was a credible right and at a completely negates the fact that like Gronk was number one receiver for the Patriots Who the fuck religious thinking of God damn. I had another good receiver in mind. Oh well there are down through Google the whole the whole fucking chiefs offense like it was his tyreek Hill. I first team all pro is travis. Kelsey the baby maybe Kelsey. I honestly don't know who's hooper first team this year. I don't know kid was a thing it'll all right. Yeah certain kills his second right yes so i. And he's essentially a wide so I don't I get the stat. I like you don't want to break the bank paying that position. That's one thing but hopkins has been as good as they come for the whole time. It's been in the fucking NFL. It's and all these. It's Ivan Rumblings all these Texans reporters just screaming like. Oh Yeah Bill. O'brien hated him. So what traits low value right apparently does betrayed it to number one number two for Laremy Tunsil to protect Xiao Watsa prolong absolutely nobody to fowler. Who GETS HURT EVERY YEAR HOSSA? Yeah the seven games people. It cooks though seven. Yeah Yeah because you know who cooks the no seven down very harsh it also to Shawn Watson it's Yeah it was a strange thousands biggest move today. Right like I didn't see. Let me check to see what else has happened. The Miami Dolphins been spending all sorts of money. They get They've got Byron Jones from the cowboys. Our audience that's a good move. They got Kyle Van Noy Magritte's boy this news. You hate to see the second year. Open year phone Patriots The Detroit Patriots of Sign Linebacker Jamie Collins five hundred now honestly not that bad three years thirty mil eighteen guaranteed another finesse. Oh yeah now. He knows what he's doing John's got five. Eighty two good. Yeah it was like sixty something guaranteed to lure. I'll hate it. He's he's who I would have chosen over Zeke but that's just me Mariota who out? Yeah I thought you were talking about the draft again. I was like they were in jail. Time to pay somebody Mariota went to the raiders. I don't hate that. I don't know who mentioned it but somebody who's like if Marietta went to San Francisco to Rehab for Year. The raiders unrelated. He could he could see some playing time next year. Better Work Van. Noy got four fifty one which good for him. Thirty guaranteed a lot like talent cost for sure. I don't know what the brand case keenum good for case yet like decent money to three eighteen with ten guarantee when you have the number one of going into year three. Betsy might ask the Ravens. The Ravens have been doing a huge chip. The Ravens have been doing all sorts of stuff. Yeah I only saw one but the one they did was a home run correct. Yeah they got clay Campbell. Four fourth fifth is my apologies. And then they got they signed Michael Brokers Today. How much three thirty okay? And they got. I know they traded Hayden hearst to Atlanta after Atlanta Lost Hooper. So we're GONNA Hooper. Go CLEVELAND CLEVELAND. It's been copying today yet. Got Caughlin as well. Listen Cleveland. This CLEVELAND SHINES MARCH. Getting me this. They're twelve wins two. Does it feel like they got one more for. The dolphins also signed Shack Lawson would he he got he can get up to thirty six million in his deal. Not seeing like a false. That's what I'm not saying. Three three if last year was for real or something to start with something. That's worth it. I think you're thinking of Shaq Barrett. Yeah bills right. Yeah I didn't think he was a free agent already. Thought he was fucking like Jon. Bostick got a deal today. I couldn't I was shocked to see you. I feel like he played Miami with like reading them. Probably worse shape era. Though he's a free agent I think he decided he got franchise tag Google Fan so James is just a free agent. Yeah very good luck. Amari Cooper free agent Gardens go game to. Stan digs just begging to be traded man. Listen before maybe I entertain it now. Listen you weren't even first team all pro. He for running back in the second round. Pick Italian would you? Would you vote for digs patriots receivers? We doubted loved eggs. I would you vote. The market's been set tyler. My hands at the REX burkhead and and a third gold. Now that's I mean. He's someone exit. I've always been interested in. I'm also fucking because it looks like rivers is headed to Indianapolis. I'm very interested in Jacoby. Brusett IF BRADY'S GONNA dip I've I'm really curious what Indianapolis did think it's official yet. But if I feel like it's all but official by they can't threat yet right. I don't like is Phil. Is He a upgrade on Jacoby? Jacoby have like a bed. Second half like favors like a bad year. And he's like is he bad enough. She's going to be good enough to upgrade it for one year. 'cause even this goes really well it's GonNa be like forty well if you look at the rest of their division up. The Texans don't know what they're doing so they're okay they're the Jaguars Jaguars and I can't even remember the four team in the AFC south. Of course now yeah now. The titans have that wrapped up so they gave Ryan Tannehill Kirk cousins money. Her cousins. Would I tell you if if Dan is really trying to make every single dollar? That's the route follows but he's also never had a big payday so I I get it. Also get him when the longer he waits people just keep getting paid and he can be like. Tannehill got embedded in you. Well I saw against the NFL. Tv deals get renewed. Next year. Dr Homemade I saw twitter about the So of course it's factual But I saw someone was saying like look if he just plays under the franchise tag this year and then does the hold out next year he can get like forty three for like the low end x year again. If he's if you're willing to go the KIRK COUSINS KIRK COUSINS. I think fourth round two totally okay. I haven't my first. Four years are probably made like two million dollars combined. I'm willing to go year for year because it's all a guarantee and I'll make you said it'd be forty-three next year. They were saying like like low end like somewhere psyche. Forty to forty five somewhere in that range. That like the franchise. This year is going to be twenty something right. I wasn't even saying for franchises. I was saying like if you were because like we've been we've been talking about like thirty five all year if you were to just sign now but if you were to wait next year with the cap going up. You're naturally your money's GonNa go up to. Maybe that's maybe you should didn't Sign a deal Untradable Russell Wilson. Didn't he sign a deal Where it was like tied to the CAP jumping. He tried they wouldn't they wouldn't let him but he had the vision. I think and again. That's the thing. Because if you're if he's made he maybe made three million dollars so far and if he's okay this franchise tag alone probably be. It can't be lower than twenty five. I WANNA twenty nine. Just take that in next. Just keep doing that until basically into Patrick. Mahomes gets paid because once he gets paid. Okay just give me a little bit less than which is on fire head on. His article clicked on different. Be Between thirty and thirty three million. Oh Yeah I'm okay with that if that's what I'm saying so I am fine with that because even with the forty three. You're going to play three years of FBI undervalued again. You keep going here for you you're never undervalued. You're never on like Aaron. Donald China's deal out two years ago he's undervalued now because back to get paid much more than him. It's not as good as him. Fucking deforest Buckner just Cashed in grand saw the trade form and they already paid them to it from everything. I've I haven't seen numbers. But they said they was gonNA make him the second highest paid D. tackle in the league. Like Fletcher Cox twenty-one year. She's pretty good for thirteenth. And again days he was all pro thirteenth. Pick for like an act like what I see there for both sides he is how is born in nineteen ninety four. So he's not quite like he's been healthy. Yes Sixteen Sixteen. Sixteen fifteen so like this year. No fifteen rookie. He's got an strong well. I was just wondering if I was him sitting out like week. Seventeen is everything wrapped up very durable. Yeah NO LESSON. End The forty niners. I mean they're defensive. Line was a position of luxury for them so them just pick it up like they were just in the Super Bowl and they got the thirteenth pick in the draft for a Guy. They probably work in a pay like. Yeah I feel like that's pretty good. Yeah Leo's come to one of those guys but they just paid d Ford think armstead. Solomon Thomas GOTTA BE NEXT. Bose's cheap for now so one year pretty much all of them. Now you get thirteen. Pick defensive tackle be there but they just replace him with. Do they need one. That's that's the beauty of it right now that a divine Ken law the deep into tag from South Carolina couple picks actually that they guest CD lamp. I'm just saying I was GONNA say if they take one of their cevers. They're like they're right in the mix there to take they take fucking rugs. They could take anyone their board or they could trade up again. In deebo Edelweiss it and they still have Emmanuel Sanders for one more year right. Think so they have. Judy eighteen wiser. I I don't know what's going on to. The CDC on Fifteenth is lower than I thought. Both those as beat-up ten twelve at worst. I feel like that's GonNa Happen. That is going to have to change. Come draft there's no way those guys go in the both of them are going to go on the teens on it. Only take because WHO GOES FIRST ONCE? The first one goes go. Get this as CD. Twelve fifteen. Judy eighteen rose nineteen Dobie. Raja twenty two t higgins twenty four like that so it just needs somebody but yet if I'm trying to even put them at the top ten now eight Arizona really considered judy offensive line. So probably the best of lemon but nine Jaguars. I've considered by Judy. Right there. Me personally put him. Garden means you. Yeah the the bears gave Jimmy Graham two years. Take the same Jimmy Graham. We did listen. He played all the way over in Green Bay. They scout a team like that US away. But it's like if you get some legit money to spend and you know for the thirteenth kick in that range decking get you. You can plug up all pro position. Where your weight from him? Boy Aaron Donald just went for a second and a fourth man game swept up and running back yet wising as Aaron Donald Baltimore Raven. Now how did they afford? This wise delays Campbell's second team all pro at thirty five. And have they somehow Jerry? Judy what the Hell is gone? Get Out and surprise me so much showed the all the picks the Gasman. I think. It's Eric Shepherd Ernie Shepherd is a new step down and it one of them's like trader backup kicker for a fifth round. Pick us with round. Pick betrayed for a first team all pro. Marcus Peters one or the other fifth round patient to trade for Kelly Campbell right. Yeah I was tricks. Yeah this was like listen. You only take the good guys good. And then a working like a charm because good lord delays Campbell at Marcus. Peters Mon- Humphry back there at the end. Whoever whatever stood they're going to get in the second round of the draft Hugh I mean the Ravens. They just don't mess this. This has getting jalen. Rigor forty seven. Yeah that's what we Patrick Queen linebacker from Lsu. In the first wrath. I wouldn't I wouldn't care for that man. Oh Man I'm looking in the nineteen raiders of Gossip. Got a little spending cash tailgate. Nineteen we could drive henry rogues who are really like so. I've or let's see if we could go. Julio Jones guys like that they could roll somehow yeah. How do like a first round pick for Michael Tom? More than fair. I think if Brady dozen signed by midnight. Patriots cap is just like demolished. What do you think he goes? I I'd be shocked if he left Patriots haven't done anything yet to to be like. Hey you right now. It's year six of Birkhead. This is the year Tommy. He's one with birkhead. How dare you know? He didn't But like ten. He's got to go to Tampa that what's going to happen. That's obviously gruesome license. Go things interesting. I thought Indianapolis was interesting but Andy would have been interesting. Seeing colts fans avid route. From be very interesting. Sanford's I just don't get the Philip rivers love there like Bonnie. If I'm going one year I don't know if I'd go brady honestly and again it. Jacoby was no great shakes. But if if they're really trying to make a one year run which like that's what trading for divorce buckner because we're trying to go right now. Philip Rivers into twenty pixel as you. I know they weren't all on but if I'm Indian. I'm really trying to take a swing radio. Why wouldn't I just signed James? Oh no that's not doesn't even selene. Oh that's a swing six wings gaffer's game in two more seasons but honestly if they really trying to take a swing. Gosse with Kansas City one for mahomes fourteen. Let's talk about the people who are like I. I wouldn't give up more than two first round Patrick Walls I came out. Like is this quarantines. Have Y'all ever watch C. Patrick Mahomes? I've watched him play the game to ramp Laremy. Tunsil went for two tyler. I don't I don't know this but he also plays with good players. Go to also love like playing for Andy. Reid and Andy. Reid phenomenal coach. He's won one super bowl ever nice. Why is he getting that good for sure? But why is he getting that credit for Mahomes? You know what I mean like. It's being used now against mahomes and these arguments like he's got. This great system is great. System had never won before. Patrick mahomes come close. It never want Alex Smith Anti Hell and Travis Kelsey and then they replace them and one up my who. Who's a second? Who's second therapist quarterback in the League right now? Mom's comfortably won. Who second third comfortably won? I do think. Russ in the mix Fisher okay because he was the consensus to With but I think three's in do I remember who played football anymore? This is a part of the problem. Lamar Jackson Police will. He does He. He came Sean. I mean I've got to say I love Watson I'm probably more comfortable going him over The unanimous MVP of last year the two three story. I think Russia's too but then it'd be like Lamar. Lamar just can't get dusted. Every time he shows up in the playoffs you know what I mean. I know it's twice. I hate to see breaks me. It's only been it's all been twice but it would be second feed like it'd be the titans this year. I'd have no problem with him in the top three and again states that this is you are winning. Mvp that's what it turns into two years street. It's unfortunate unfortunate. Say I've that'd be my top three in it's really like Mahomes as the top three. Russ's four okay. So if say the cheese called video. Brian said let's O'brien would eat the phone. He'd be like I've I've seen this trip before. Now he's like no we who cares ten. I don't fuck I'm GonNA continue as he keeps being sorry. Might it even better. They will just keep trading down the road but if they were like okay mahomes for Watson in how many pigs how many pigs the Houston needed. Throw him before. Kansas City is comfortable sex. So Watson and six first round picks were. They had to say wait a minute. Yeah I think I think they'd have to start being like we need some Mike thirds too but I think we could sell this. I was saying rustling. I Dunno eight for the age. People like to know more to. There's no. There's no like that's the problem. There's no age gap with Watson. Moms it if there is. It's like a year So that makes it a little easier but yeah no people were saying like even that probably not like I want to do more than you would not do three if Patrick of eight and also part of your argument is like abandoned as the coaching. You just saying you think you're coaching staff sucks. If you can't figure out how to use Patrick bombs you stink. He can't even read no. That was a that was wild of the two bro. Jalen ran for the first time picks. I like him. He Patrick Khalil Mack. He started his Hobo. We see Robert Griffin went for like three two second round picks adult us from the bears. Who aren't even if they have picks Got a couple of kicking around. Would they do them brought please now as a backup we stood them? It's feels like the same thing. Just I'm I'm still all in at for two or three Allen to Detroit no to US where a trail. Detroit would be giving up. I two first round Ross was going for to this Nj. Yeah Injured Guitar Ukulele. Plan Wilson. Yeah Yeah like a fifth a conditional would you? Would you give up? Three first round picks go get him out need probably like a two back as well but yeah no no. It's the lions. They don't know they can say no. I'm running the lineup. Saying no yeah. Of course I mean yeah because I don't like we're not going to bottom out to be able to get Lawrence next year. You know what I mean. So it's I I do still think to the real deal. I'd be all in on Android and wants to get him. Twenty Twenty six twenty two or twenty three things. Well then no other than not you. Yeah we have twenty three. I can't write this a draft manifesto. I just keep getting more ammo for the only day three picks you go for Veterans Claes. Campbell got voted the twenty six best player of the year twenty six he appeared. It's run defender of the year. He just went for a fifth round. Pick us on all you want guys bad Walter. Payton Man of the year. Bad Dad seat is bad. Guy Tell Rude had grabbed by shirt. Call Pokemon the nose just grabbing about colleges Botham once on the I can trade a date three pick for that like us where I would only trade. My my fifth set my v six seven maybe like four thousand four buoy looks. I wasn't eating. Come off his greatest year but the team was a mess. I try to afford around pick for TRICIA might first second. They're only trade back for this like Let's see who's the disgruntled veteran issue? Who wants a new deal? I'm willing wanted out like Stefan digs. Some of these veterans aren't even disgruntled teams. Just like we don't want to pay you anymore. Let's strayed you like you can get a perfectly grunted human beings. Yeah that's what he's nowhere Ha. Well let's call and see a fifth round pick and we'll take stefan digs off your I like done. Get this malcontent right like I. I don't know why the Dolphin Dolphins are spending money all over the place spreading if they threw their hat in the ring. Form Wasn't Tonio Brown. Go Tampa with Tom. Yuck do they come back in the League? I think he get signed again. I don't know if he plays another game. Okay then it's one of those bridges bringing them. In ANYTHING GOES WRONG. They can cut him it in and get any any second. He has a couple of practices and something had they not even something bad. We decided to go our separate ways. He gets cut the key never begin. I can still see the ravens play his cousins there. That might they've had worse. People Manage Man So yeah I don't I I wouldn't surprise me. And then they trade ruling out too and I'm just like Geez second round pick probably have segregate begging Gus Edwards. I'll never understand data. Oggins is so good so incredibly good. This year I think was the drops. Maybe that he's ahead. He's still made first team because he normally zero trump's right at the three this year off my shit cuyler Hopkins Andy Isabella. They're ready to go this year. Geeder come in and be the number one fisher as a number three. She's still ninety five pairs without question. I would be the only thing that I really left it. Judy which they go off into blonde. One of those wide receivers drop. They always do and that gays and it still be gave thirty per second so that third somebody it's like why is. Jalen regular stone bore not anymore right. Yeah someone didn't run like quite fast like levesque Schmaltz. They're they're like. Hey we're GONNA YOU'RE GONNA play running back to everything's GonNa be great is like okay. I also like it feels like the thirty second pick in the draft especially since they moved it to. Its just round one on day one now. It feels like it's the most easily pick that you can get in any like sleds always for sale thirty three years. So if you see someone stole their like last year. It was metcalfe and he kept falling. So if there's whoever that this year's guys feel like no which is what that guy we don't have to this. We'll give you a three and a two next year for whoever WHO's got thirty two SAV fucking the chiefs. They're just like s shared shit strapped looking at hasn't taken the Andries with V very bad very very bad for the chiefs. Yeah they're they're GONNA do that. I wouldn't JUDY'S ARE GONNA fall thirty two. We're all GONNA be like a boy. I'll love you fast. For their skiing. He'd make them pay Jordan Jordan. Love going to throw. He's really big. Answ yeah so you need apparently. Can't Bush drafting Xavier mckinney? Boy If they compare Byron Jones Xavi roads close personal friend. He's available now. Who still has cap space dolphins? Oh you boy I'd be over more Gupta. Even there they get money. I'd put him league but yeah he's remind yes yeah How much do you want? If you're really going to hit the open market in your twenty Miami Northwestern Twenty five years old. Yes we'll pay the we'll pay for it. I don't hate it. They got the money in for Michael Thomas just stupid. He's the highest paid now. Receiver Wise Ninety six. Basically if wants five for I don't know wanting they guaranteed Michael Thomas. Thirty five again. Tm forty five. I would do that. I'm shocked they're having I feel like last year. We had a ton more. Maybe it's because everyone's on lockdown but I feel that should lead to more deals right now. The Andreopoulos Gantry I mean like actual free agent signing a feeling like this kind of is the frequency find your disgruntled Star Debt. That's our free agent. Splash the ravens me. They're free displays fillets Campbell. Cardinals made there's D Andrea Alcohol's pretty good. The dolphins could still somehow get to if I've and have him walk into a situation when he's healthy. He's got devante Parker and Amari Cooper throat. I say I just in the eighteen. Are you kidding? Say a headline. The Texans Traded Deandre Hopkins so the cardinals a move. That has been widely criticised not wide. Enough I would argue. I'd panic more. Frankly does hasn't get into it five Judea eighteen. You could sign more cooper but yes you guys around three. I just want three guys that will get about eleven hundred yards receiving. Yes okay we will do. I can't believe they trade him apparently like whatever they're doing fixtures aging of hopped Hopkins's ages. This will get a pretty good version of it for ten more now that Arizona. Dry Heat just perfect for wide receivers as like this is tremendous. I still got Yeah they get them getting worse offensive lineman afford to probably take especially if they like you. Just go out and sign or trade for days of digs hopkins is your to one of that backwards. But if hopkins eggs year one two and you can just keep your first round pick and taking offense. I'm into protect your tiny little quarterback. That's pretty good savannah cats but by that was their caps. Blache charges interested charges to charge the have some cap like. I don't know who's GonNa play quarterback for them bridgewater eastern stick probably GonNa take her like six intake drew We're I've I will take Isaiah. Simmons they're like. I'll just let me just get horrifying defense. I feel like him were offensive lineman unless I mean unless you love her and why like. Why wouldn't they jump up to like three of two? Is Right there because they need more help. The they can't afford to give up the picture to take the jump up there and get him. We need all of you. But if he's GonNa city or I don't know if he's going to but if you WANNA sit him a year then you still have your first next year say that now ready to go and then it's like all right we're going to keep our defense as because we have both so we have being room. We have Darwin like there's still are young core But we can trade Keenan Allen Right now for Very injured running back a third round. Pick and keep Mike Williams and then build that way too. Yeah I saw. I heard some people say Robert Woods might be available like that feels peculiar. Probably I think it's almost time to pay cup. I saw could be traded again. I was like well. Yep sure chiefs okay guys but we would terrify you more playing the cheese than drafting deandra swift. Thirty two or the train from Branco's coach by far at boil boy are slow guy is brandin cooks it off to you might have won. Gone Your team. That can run as fast as one of these guys can do a backward to maybe not. Now you've got two of them and casualties just in the middle like there's nobody's to twenty feet of me tonight. You still have hardman too so you have three of them. Got Superbowl Hero. Damian Williams rushed for nine yards a carry. That's what I'm GONNA do. I don't care what the rest of you guys are up to throw a ball pass. Brandin cooks met. He just tries to break it personal challenge all year and the one time he does tyreek catches it. How about that? I was right terrifying times all around. The dolphins should be up to make the playoffs. They place right. Who's their quarterback going to be to? What if they decide in Brady? V Dot Money Ryan Bo Jackson Fitzpatrick good story to that other Judy. And then they still have one more first. Round pick says getting even gross mottos maidens from Penn State. I'm sure he's terrified. Probably in those days like free agency money again. That's assigned Mike Amari Cooper and two whenever you're ready Markelle. Patrick is more than competent enough to start like the first eight. Or whenever you're ready that's what I'd do. Tresors spend quiet for like an hour up now. It hasn't bills have acquired Stefan dex. Ooh for what Jay. Glazer just only tweeted that. No-one weather's just like the last time they traded for disgruntled wide receiver. They immediately said No. Fuck that that ended up in the raiders. That's a good move some. They didn't give up by a third round. Pick Nathan than I'm like. Maybe it's a good move digs good. He's GonNa yell at Josh Allen Though. That's what he does. They gotTA know that hadn't into it. He's he builds mafia issues. That's a good point God damn it. We still need to receive her mind. We don't have any money. Why Not Brady's gone? He is but like it the deal we signed with them last year. Like if he doesn't I'm pretty sure if he doesn't signed by midnight so an hour and a half. He like triggers dead gap that wipes out the rest of our cap this year. It was a sick move. It sounds great camp giving real-time everyone we've seventeen games. What a miss is that official for. That can't be for this year right now. Things would make you for twenty twenty. One season does a trading a first round pick fifth round. Pick in a six round peg. They get a twenty twenty one fourth round. Pick a twenty twenty seventh round pick and Stefan digs because their first rounder has got to be in the twenties. Oh wait a minute. They don't even get that fourth-rounder they send that fourth-rounder back twenty food for Dick's I feel like he just got paid. You still young enough exposed them. 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Thousands doesn't give a fuck either. He's just like I haven't still paid substantial Dolphins Fan Outside General John Cooper. And we're ready to rock. How much did you pay Derek? And I'll go far. David David David Johnson has gotten thirteen. And you can try to go like that for deandre Hopkins. So you got to at least thirteen refuse the franchise essay. They should absolutely franchise him. He should absolutely refuse in hopes to get a long-term. Do unless it's absolutely like I say Derrick Henry at least carried a team to AFC championship. Game Melvin Gordon Barely carries esteem three yards. Every time he touches the ball and not a good actor either. Five foot eight Don Fowler carried. That's uh where's he going? Overpaid didn't give him a minute. Blow their money there. But I can't believe one hundred ninety five pound pass rusher didn't work out longtime it. Wow much bigger hopkins was in that same thing too. We take deandre to an eighty two hundred ninety five minimum. What a strange day finished tweet. Those at sure as is marched longer than January. No honestly I was thinking about the other day. It was that year was the era so slow it was crawling back and the day Kobe debt. Everything's moving fast forward. Yeah that's true like that was in the first twenty. Five days of January crawled Koby died. February sped through marches rate for March. Madness is GONNA be no madness like it's going to be Abelson so the day Koby Dad. There's no tyler listen. Weather's no question April will be soon. There's no doubt my mind might. I don't know I don't know. Did you see the schedule? Tweak they retired from the NBA for NBA. Which one I feel like. I've seen a bunch of things. The one on this one Bobby Marks. It'd be middle of June we would start the NBA playoffs early. August would be the NBA finals the end of August rename. Ba draft September. I would start Free Agency September tenth some Slash Fall League. He's flexible December. It's still summer I won't I won't here it. Put it in the Galt get both options. September Tenth Summer Fall League December Tenth Training Camp Opens December. Twenty Fifth Regular Season Opens Eighty two game season mid-june NBA players NBA season ends. Where they're going to eighty two from Christmas to June. Yes Oh God. That's GONNA do already from Halloween to April like us. Move back by two months. Okay all right all right. I was I was thinking like even though you didn't say this I was thinking like they were just GonNa finish the season like they always do middle of June. But that's all right that's fair. Yeah this is yeah. Now start the sales and I'm guessing The mind would just be. The new norm the norm Cuban or somebody like somebody's proposal it's the NFL. Have all this that tyler. You know? I'm not one to put on my tinfoil hat. No now if we go back in time before we go forward in time this. Nba season started amid turmoil with China. Yes the same place. Corona virus started The same test now if I was a conspiracy. Kinda guy big huge. If luckily for everyone I'm not but if I were conspiracy Kinda Fella One might say perhaps Adam silver planned this So that he could get Nba season starting on. Christmas adds a lot of people. Not even just a lot of people have wanted for quite some time. I'm just saying there was turmoil in China Guide a bat now the NBA season is going to start on Christmas. Like they always wanted to say. I don't hate it. Don't give us now give everybody three months off and I think that would have to be durant's coming back if it's three months off. Broadly shoot will. I don't know but that's not our business. No People Watch them. You have my word to that tyrod where the nets won the championship this year. It'd be one of like because him coming back you'd have do for four rounds. I don't think they would but I do think it would be. One of those. Like boy aboard wasn't the raptors one in six but there by total point of Martin's eleven points early August the NBA. Finals put back into August the Dryer September. I still basically you just two months later for everything and I. It would stink for me because I before Delic Halloween because it's means NBA. Right there tyler. I Know Adam. Silver is only thinking about you during this so please please let him know. If this plan doesn't work one hand everybody on the other hand yeah I am. I don't hate it I really don't can. We split it like what if the season started. Thanks giving but then you know to start paying attention Christmas. People don't start paying attention on Christmas now as as it if people say they do in the All star break. Let's see what's happening and so I I don't. Why are we trying to peel them? Fuck them know for sure. My biggest thing was starting on. Christmas was always eight. Equated shorter season which I didn't like But if now the NBA skirmish rule the summer out on this extreme extenuating circumstances to get here. But I don't know how they if they WANNA finish the season which they should. I don't see any reason why they shouldn't finish this season. I mean this may be the bucks. It's the the seasons frozen but like these humans are still getting older. You know what I mean. It's not like they're gonNA. They're it's not like their body clocks waiting this out to like everyone's getting older And this may be Milwaukee. This may be on Milwaukee's loan shot like they should get that chance. I don't I don't hate the I want them to finish the season even if it's if if this is what has to happen and they don't even play in front of fans for these play offs and if they can bring fans back hopefully safely for the finals you talk about ramped up buildings and I agree like Matt Barnes. Everyone's All the retired older players again. These playoffs are about to be some like we've never seen before. I kind of get it. 'cause everyone's going to be super healthy but I feel like we're pretty cramped up playoffs as as people aren't like US playoffs. Time to take it easy. Yeah but we've also never seen like Lebron's never had this kind of wrist already now from not playing one hundred games season eight years straight. Yeah but he's drinking is Mr Load Management. He just gets. He might just have three months off. Straight by is basically another summer right. Maybe it's the best probably at this point now like all these guys would be like right before right before the NFL playoffs. Everybody just got a month ball. It's like boy. Oh Boy Patrick mahomes rested. I WANNA get kids from. Do we have other ad for today or is it for next show right next year? I said Bill. Brian called exactly one team. Dow other explanation and some are applied. Ll Why would we trade hop to a team? We may have to play in the playoffs there more than one team the opposite conference. You understand that that's the logic and we share. The Texans are making the playoffs now. I mean the check. Wires tightened might be a flu. My not colts. I believe titans. I don't know if I believe in town but I don't know if it matters. Thumbs like like the cultures had a bunch of culture. Stay healthy next year. They were one of those like they were six two or six three something if they just WanNa live in twelve games. Third-placed wide open for billing. What a day yeah. I'm looking forward to August. Nba Playoffs the guy. I love watching MBA in the summer. Of course I'll watch it whenever they put it but I don't I don't love or had been associated enough but mark locate. Here's the thing we might permanently move march madness. That may know fuck you but it's like okay. The finals are going to be around Labor Day instead of father's Day. Okay right by the playoffs. We're GONNA start. Boil imagine having imagine the fourth of July last later maybe a Games. They put off your. They already owned The for the July with free agency but now the actual games like it would basically be actually. I think that's worse for them. Because Fourth of July such an outside day like free agency still POPs. Because you don't have to be watching it you just notifications and react. I still think it could be one of those like people still doing things. Tv will be on the end of the day in the day. Everybody will sit down inside and outside. Oh Boy oh boy we. We get a Lakers clippers Right you put the like the Field Raptors Pacers. Nba TV Games on during the day. But basically it's look how they treat him. Okay now if you start the game on Christmas. Mlk Day Glowka. This is you're just a touch of primetime. Look couple of weeks in bright thing. I guess it will push all-star break to ape like now yeah like now we're pushing everything to go from like Valentine's Easter was checking forward there for twenty four twenty all star Game The sick it's starting to come together. Yeah it's again a sounds weird because I've like military all star day but they changed at April. I'll say this it bring it to a lot more cities because only Chicago this year. Everybody's like so fucking goal Chicago April very reasonable ways places in April in April mid April. Very reasonable a bit especially the next few all star Games. Cleveland INDIANA MIGHT JUST DREARY PLACES. Salt Lake City Outdo. Rather do it at eight Brougham February for cutting the baseball Counterpoint Fuck Baseball. Yeah talk about least of by concerns. So I'm I'm in on this guy. I mean I think it's out of our hands. So on a short all it took was an international pandemic to get the NBA scheduled to where they want it to go. Yeah so it was like this perfect. I wanted to get Donald Sterling Out Bing Bang boom out of their things coming up silver makes you think tired man Yale Man Men will be. Do you have anything else with this episode there. Yeah we'll get them throwing John Collins on India. Heke towns like this. I hope everybody's been re watching thrones. Oh Yeah that's why I'm I'm two episodes and to make millions and yeah. That guy stinks agent Doug Yeah I don't care. Member are are now. That was the other guy who just doesn't end up. Doug Matthews Fuck that guy there like we. We asked US other agent who is pivotal and everything. If he wanted to speak as no matthews gets worse he gets a lot worse. I mean he's stinks to ups odes and the other guy who's thanks to is the cousin of the old Italian. He's like yeah. He's kind of like if you mixed Aaron Hernandez with Rodney Dangerfield That's a perfect analogy. This is like what? Why do you keep talking? Which housing It's him and his wife in. The ball is terrified of now. I'm not sure why he just keeps comparing like a mass murderer to a comedian. And being like yeah. That was my cousin and I'm just like why. Why talking. Now he had a tight T to hit us. Guys thanks Have you watched the egos at McDonald's drive-thru no no? He's not going to one five creams ten sugars. The tissue creams. I watched it at the time. I don't drink coffee so I don't know coffee measurements but I think that sounds like a lot of fucking sugar now. That both are insane. Yeah and I'm tweeted out. People like not listen that so much sure I was like that. Sounds like I've heard people call from ten five. I mean five. Just cut it if he were doing just five grain. That's like you're just drinking cream at that point like you're not even drinking coffee. It looks like me a so and so I wanNA anglos. Wiring up wired up wonder why that and I did to five episodes of Ozark of thoughts. I don't I don't like that. The wife still alive your first season. Yeah Wendy boy. I wish he had got thrown off the balcony to Mellon Gallagher. That made me laugh out loud. I was pumped but her cleaning out the accounts and try to try to skedaddle. I was like you gotTa kill this. You killer patients okay. Good good What's DOT com you watch? Hbo Documentary on our good friend. Kareem abdul-jabbar whose okay minority of one of basically is an. I'm just talking through his life and my favorite part since you as where why. Ucla is basically white man. I want to ask them bitches. Like the smash cut of back to back like looking really cool with lots of attractive women around them just could back to him sitting on a couch. Laughing maniacally yeah. I'm Mike Boyle boy in. La in the sixties early seventies early seventies. I guess we like yeah. Now listen you talk. Tail come out of my ears. He's like right before I made my choice. I consulted with wilt. And we'll told me he throw me off a bridge heading to UCLA. So here I was. There's a lot about their relationship on that. I didn't know and also loo Chamberlain scab certainly in the short list. There's no question about that. Oh Yeah I'm not blogging. Now was no blog comment. It is extremely fucked up that I can't even have like a my own paternity leave when everyone all planets on fucking paternity leave right now like wolves drake. I'm going to ask if I can take mine when everything resumes and three months and be like now. This is another baby of not no work. I Staw- I. I was blogging. Like mid birth. I am not a cower. Man I'm fucking on my corentin food. Gay Utah my God. Yeah you just lock up. You'd like now a well-stocked stocks root for watch would want pancakes. Why would I not want? Yeah that's the that's why it's good to have the dogs because that gets me like our house but not around any humans at all. So that's good and yet target was dead today so that was good but ask just as bad brutal brutal. Yeah just had to restock like just food that I know's going to stretch. I also tried sprite with Ginger L. Tried this yet. I was terrible absolutely I thought I I thought they had something there. I was like all right all right and then now just tastes like really flat sprite. So that only it sounds like it might be decent only to cut another drink cut alcohol but that's okay can only dream. Okay give me yes. Some whiskey and a splash the sprightly ginger ale. That's bad but as straight up. That does sound awful. I tried to bowl. Ginger that way it puts herring chess de spray with ginger It tastes like someone opened a sprite like two days ago and took like two sips out of it. And then ask you if you had to finish it with the other meat because everybody here drinks whiskey would around Ice Cube fucking Burgundy exceed seventy two McCowan say single barrel mope one hundred five. They may seventeen at ease. I got blah seventeen. Yeah they they grew up with only peat Moss. You can find in in Protestant Ireland not not Catholic Ireland. Let me take you back. Machete the CASKS. People people the worst with that. So you don't Have Ri- Wis Oh heavens Now I keep that away from me. It's like boxing night on twitter times. One thousand you talk about wine. Whisky one brown liquor if you should've got. You should get the DOORKNOB doorknob. We shoulda got Savia by Sabio. Elevate GETS ADDRESSED DOUBLE CAST TEN YEARS. Single mom saying third base coach again. Mr Burns Conference Yeah Oh we got what we have one final deal on the way out the door. Amari Cooper hit me five years one. Ten One hundred seventy GUARANTEE DALLAS COWBOYS. I mentioned guaranteed is a does not says a per Adam schefter. The Washington redskins pursued Amari Cooper today and tried to pry them away. Yeah he was like why. Why am I talking to you? Get away from me. It's like who is this Patrick injuring his agent. Texting artless. Five years is like all right. One hundred and twenty million ooh was like Washington. Nope now tell you my friend. She got a friend. Talk to the friend. John John Collins joy joy I was GONNA say I'm excited to listen to it because I'm people. Sheriff skipped ahead to listen to only that glad you talk about anticipated the Barbour Lien without like in the wedding over here are dump voices and then was correct but yeah also by Hoodie. Please animals and see you guys later this week. See nobody does. That's the thing nobody likes the inning of nobody likes the NFL. Messed up. Your what you do you wash you wash your talk. John Collins the Atlanta Hawks. Thank you for joining us. Sir. It's good to be here that Admiral continue the conversation. We just had of Cameron. You're thrown game of thrones. You'RE GONNA ask me a question. He had shirt on With the what does it? Another good hand hearing hearing and then Where that will tyrian was made a cool But yeah man. You had the shirt on first question so I'm ready. I'm ready okay. So just the last season season eight. What are your thoughts about all? I'm thinking they were going to be a Yo. You're joking like like they were GONNA ask trailer. Yeah IT'D BE MISSED. Michelle mess with this of. Y'All don't mess with this now we're gonNA. We're GONNA release the real stuff like we were talking about like unfinished storylines. I might wild wild. And they're just like you did all that for John's notable out there you know become the new men back in ninety just like the sacrifice dog for nothing. That's right yeah what else. What else did they have oranges? So so to Nike. My big thing was like so my big thing was we got to figure out what what the white walkers purposes but what are they are just coming killing like. We don't figure out nothing what happened about nothing. We don't know like he's acting like why was he even there? We don't even know that I don't know they made John and dinars. Why brought up today. Where and nephew. Because that ended up making no different snow men they may brand the king which really pissed me off. He's that's a bad sign. When you're finale who you set everything up for people forget about it was supposed to have some so much more like meaning like instead of hinges being like the you know. The ruler of West arose like he was used to see like he saw few trees ought to pass the war until the birds just was like man. This is the last season. Wrap this up. We will make episodes hour and twenty five minutes so everybody can be la aren't cool. It's almost like a movie and there was even worse and it'd be even worse hugging me. Mad Man I five. Were amazing that I was coming to best television. I've ever watched. And then they ruined it so they're supposed to be coming with a prequel on the prequel. I'm watching. I'm definitely watched. The first season you know because You know they they can make a good show. I don't know if they're GONNA have the same writers because I know I know another thing right where somebody was like George Art and have like he wasn't on like the pharmacies and he'd never finished the book it so the TV writers they just took their own liberty and that was bad news. A bunch of stuff Georgia ours is he. He's there and he's you know what I'm saying president throughout the making the story and I am. I miss winning. I think he played it right because like by not finishing the book. He can see like everybody hated. Tv and then he knows he can go a whole different other way. 'cause we finished and they didn't like it whether they go ahead on him now he's like wasn't on me like I don't write this. Yeah you know I go on Youtube and I watch a lot of lawers. I felt like like the books obscene played into the lower and all that stuff but I feel like the TV show was for the people who obviously didn't read the books and weren't even really like trying to get not just want to show you know what I mean like. If you're really interested in you want to learn more like you know there's there's a whole bunch of stuff like how books and how real TV shows debts. Are you have other stuff to get involved in? But they didn't. They didn't realize they needed to go deeper into any of this. What else watching the shows movies? What's what's the show boy. Franken no-ball year. Yes almost no for kingpin shows. Yeah I'm on narcos. I'm supposed to catch them on a season and Narcos to watch. You didn't know this one but Mexico. Yes it's still washes. Lonely gotTA reviewed. I was like man. You need to wash because it's about autumn. I'm shanking tossed the first to wash third. Okay I'M GONNA give a big og shots into boondocks my favorite show. That's a class that's coming back is supposed to. I don't know what's going on. This is supposed to come back. I think once. Yeah because they got mcgruder like the Creator wants back so I think knock on wood. I think they're supposed to be bringing back some show What else so locked in? I'm a I'm a youtube head so like Oh boy. I like algorithm is different days. Like I have a day where I only watch like highlights the highlights of every game my highlights like. Oh how nice day watching like video games. Whatever we do game on Sundays I wanNA watch histories and I like you too for me. 'cause you know from the fast fast food airs being able to watch where. I WANNA WATCH TYPE IN YOUTUBE AHEAD MY YOUTUBERS. I watch faithfully. They drop video my favorite gossip. British youtuber real funny so he dropped video. I'll watch it and if not all sorts of just. So what does he was he talked about? It was his used to be a real big video game guy and then he more moved into like almost like he's almost like a Reality Star. Youtuber okay distant. You remember to Boston matched with the US. Okay with Jake Paul Paul Brother. Yeah everyone yeah. Okay him so he turned it into cash. I'm making a Bay Guam. Yeah so yeah. Suffix guys like him. He's funny he's real funny to meet and so I like watching him on was going to give it. A shot. Shot the Christmas because Chris Mugabe watch videos? He's like a NBA Two K. Guy Nine does like strictly like NBA content. Like Johnny do like almost like the. Spn Hawks versus Lakers whistle. Who he'll comment over so you play a lot of two K. Or we'll games that you actually play ham game or two I don't really have a preference as more same thing case. Probably my game. Every day used to be fee for every day. Now Right now. Two K every on and off like like almost years have a place a year only play back and forth. Who Do you think the players are hawks? The hawks kind of hard sometimes. Not a great a trait and ninety. So now it's kind of easy because I can trade. Don't whatever shoot? Three's on lobs and give myself buckets. So it's Kinda easier but Most of the time. I can't give you my team. But it's a slow stock. When I play him that day. You'll be ready for games time scales so you play okay play but Yeah to care right now okay. I'm trying to get into full. I'm just bizarre game getting into man. I don't know enough about soccer. I think what it comes down to. I just don't know rules. I feel like that's why I love seafood because like Murphy. Whoa no huge soccer. God I love okay. So like if he was actually really cool. Way Racking like stanton touching I keep up with. Who's WHO's playing. Well I'm ultimate team. Data could pick all your players from different countries. And you have to match up like country country links and if they play in the same league as Are they in the right position? All that matters for like chemistry people team understand what I'm talking about. And that's my favorite game on fee for so long hours have gone down the drain. Money has gone down to read but I love you guys probably like as a team on the plane or hotels or whatever fever to care what each other is very competitive like I could say at this point like if you're talking being taught and got money now I'm coming on beat you body but you by beach you buy that you gotta put the money down and plays play you know. Just despicable Stephen Hawking. Yeah you can start you start trash talking in turning right now but yeah I mean definitely. That's competitive as ever want to care like there aren't real life you know. I've been playing to get more laughs though especially like for a guy like me. I'm twenty two. Haven't blamed to K- literally forever. So yeah I know other people are like extra can Patrick in cry regarding now this oldest thrown on this been there. Who's the best game on the team? Who the best chaos a knee? Who's the worst? But whose easy money like the events because he like you know an Xbox at other they used to like Pong and stuff so list also has now. So let's just try to control. You know what I mean. Every now and then maybe for his man's but that's probably about it. Okay says you brought up? This was it like having a guy like that like a legend but a guy who was legit like twice age on the team they call them. Sir Now you know he. He always a little little Luma you come home. I'll miss when I I call him Yoda. Okay Sir Sir. Bounds Guy Okay Wanted to I used to whenever I see him but man. That's amazing man. He's a you know he's always unwound like he's been through every experience you know almost every experience possible so this is cool to ask him any question. He knows he's been through it and it's also caucases like he's as probably in his day more athlete and I was just about you know what I mean. He's very compare whatever so like is cool because he gets like. I can't act everybody like Yo how do you how do you try to dunk on? Or how do you see somebody in the air? Like I can't acce trade it so right so couve for ACA accidents questions like that. He's also transitioned his game into like Shuna lot of threes. And that's something I'm trying to do. So He's been real instrumental in late. You know just give me a mind center would go off of just basketball wise. Because he's done a lot. What's the best tidbit piece of advice? Give me on court off the court I loved. You probably just helped me out. Shooting last year low so last year was probably my first year ever in my entire for like ten million threes idea. You know if people see how much your your line. But he's really true also causes right so it ain't going. I see well you gotta better off off one. You know what I'm saying for nowhere to go but up facts right so You know he he would always remember is like a stretch and practices It was like seven eight faxes enroll. We just work on shooting and work on shooting US man. I whenever you think you're going to fast like whenever you think you've slowed down no slowdown. More like leterme would get into in terms of like the mentality of you know what I need to do in high locking went before us and got what he meant. It's not like you're literally trying to take your time. He's like you're GonNa you're gonNA feel that rhythm that that stick. It's his hardest lane that rhythm into your shot you almost. You're waiting for that. You win from when you know you're ready instead of just shooting because they all right. Thank you got you so that was. That was the big one for me once. I finally understood what he was talking about. And try to apply okay. It's an started taking better shots and distorted understand how fast onion issue jumper. That was really all it was like. I'm rushing once I take my time in like follow through and shoe like I feel like it's money for him. He he saw that tune was I do just ally rushing. He's I had more time to shoot like eyes aren't closing out on you. Get like once they are then we can have that conversation about you getting off. Good like super-quick please. I concealed in like take it gets and then once they respect you were owners was so hard to pick up. 'cause like you said you never really shot threes. Now you're doing it like higher and higher volume and they going into so hard to pick up or the harder part for me was confidence because I always felt like I could communists news. I knew I could shoot a new stroke. I didn't have a future. I didn't feel that man. I'm scared to go out there. It was just like I haven't shot threes like different. Like I can knock down practice all day. You know what I mean but in a game is different the pressure on and I've never shot like that was the thing I was scared of your released. Like more concerned about so news. This habitat for a year to sort of. Get all those reps out and shoot in game and honesty Thousand bigger shifts me than just like all right now. Tom Shoe because I felt like I could just a matter of doing it. And have the confidence of a put in many recipes. I needed to like. I've been putting the reps in the summer. I put it in the revson practice. Shoot the ball. Do you like relax shoot. Now's a big. I was like what I needed to get over to like high school college like nobody. Nothing like Danny Manley shoot threes. I don't want to like kill Danny de Code Male. He's one didn't really want me to didn't want me to shoot like he understood that I could but what he asked me to do wasn't to shoot. We had to do juvenile thirty eight percent and both are other guards can shoot hsun like sixty percent of paint rex. I know why right so it wasn't like it was like John. If you shoot a three like the aim play like no we gotTA system. We were like number seven in the country like offensive efficiency Greg. So it's like don't change none wrong. Don't know facing and in high school no I man I mean it was it was it was sort of the same thing like but it was in high school. I was I could dunk the ball every time. I say you know what I mean washing talking literally Dunkin everywhere so I don't know I kind of understand it but when I look back at how food I am a mike man only but still doing my thang right most points. You ever scored in a game high school thirty six. That's it that's it. I scored thirty six league in that crazy. And my highest mcnally high in the League is thirty. Five in my league-high has thirty six just more policemen which I'm a college twelve thirty. Anyone really planned like the thirty one thirty dupleix Duke Forty Point. Hey Man some point. I'll talk yeah. I talked to coach. Don't worry about it I shoot fourteen times game so you can get some more shots baby steps. It's coming. Yeah you play Basketball Florida as Florida home for you because I yeah I I say Ford is home base. My family's there. That's why we go when my mom and I were stationed anywhere you know family was. We're originally from the US Virgin Islands. Okay so I'm I crush on you know but I don't really say that it might be time may be but So we're chruches. I-it's been in a year my grandmother in Saint Croix born down that no my mom and my mom was born there in like her generation of sweets. I gotTa Explain Hall of Fame Grandmothers and M.'s. From New York and stuff in in any move to the Virgin Islands. And that's what my mom's from and that's sort of where you know. I claim like Christian. Heritage. I say Florida but it's really crazy. I say Florida and then me and my mom would travel around everywhere and then when she retired we moved there and I went to high school high school in eighth grade or so. I consider it as more or less bill so when I was born in late in Utah so everybody looks me up till I more member. Like my mom's a military worn on the base I'm guessing military And we ended up living wall. Turkey Tacoma Washington. We spent eight years in Tacoma. Okay so that's that's like. Oh Yeah I love particular Pacific big shots to the Pacific northwest. Okay I just. It's a nice vibe. That's where I grew up so I had a special place in my heart Pacific West shots out to the two five three separate entities and then we moved forward so would how do you like Atlanta. Now it looks as now honestly I tell everybody. This is like being a black kid like you. Don't you're not used to seeing black faces everywhere and then when you come to Atlanta and you see black face your everywhere like you just Kinda like you not scared but you okay now like you see Black Bass and Evan stole or Business Lenses and BMW's and I seriously I was looking I can be on highway left and look right and I'll see to black people and I don't think people realize how how rare that is for any place in the United States. Jeff so once I like didn't get over it but like once I understood that started to embrace. Those are cool. I guess what you know what? I'm saying You know obviously take some time for that to happen and play. Here's obviously no garden. A little bit of Fan love whenever I go out. And that's always cool to getting love from fans and hearing them. Tell me you know. Show me love so that also helps the you know. The city is to oppose view it. So you know if I was hearing your fans and everything you know Dan Messing me and all that stuff you put a different vob over the city but I like better or worse. If they didn't mess works like to me I love you know. Having a great game plan my heart audience. If I didn't have a great game in my you know I'm still seeing the love and hearing that love. It feels good man and I know a lot of Atlanta fans. Tell me that Oh you know. We haven't had that a long time are now and I'm glad to see human trae. Bring any bag and blah blah blah. Mike Cole. I I'm I'm really glad to hear that because that means I'm playing so my imitate investable. Also what do you dislike about something about it or the Rosebrough? Worst roads in America. Traffic PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND ATLANTA'S NOT NOT TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE ATLANTA says this assess people here like too many cars or roads of small like you don't notice named Powell's every turn and Corner Mas- that's probably number one and you can't get anywhere if you pre plan if you WANNA leave the house on my three to seven I understand. You have like a forty five minute like you live in. New York City or La. Right like like plan your commute. Yeah Yeah People Think. It's not traveling traffic. It was number two traffic tunnel as everybody knows the traffic. Listen to the weather's cool. Weather here is not that bad opposite. Florida's a little better Back to me okay. Four of our food pretty full found attainment Clever yeah that's what I'm saying like. Oughta stuff for a young like all blackmail like with a bunch of money. Affluence is everybody can buy you love Atlanta. Do but it's like I don't miss it hate nothing about it. But on Charleena feed into Atlanta Atlanta is one of those cities yet. You feed into it and each you. Oh Yeah Yeah. Yeah it is how it works. I've seen having a couple of times and you already nabet limit. Who is some your furnace and a Lee and I'll tell you I'm asking that in a minute I have I have. I have some friends. Say One do who's like to do have been my mom I do because they were from pre-draft until now is during bill They kept down whenever I see them as like super duper law. But like when I say it is like I have friends that have. I'm I'm really cool with a Lotta dues but like I didn't know any of them before the NBA. Or before college. Because I was so like under recruited Greg like so. They all have like ten. I don't have that with them. So it's like they. They probably seen me but I don't know them so I don't happen to like friends like the free dog I would've year. I'm cool with a time. I do you know what it is. I'll have no like breeds. Bis noted dude since he's in the NBA with me. He's like so I don't know it's kind of hard for me to say Obscene News on my team a little different right. You know what I'm saying but like other than that like I probably say those to anybody because you know boroughs to yeah I asked because basically everybody teams up with their friends now and how you can get Donovan Mitchell and George Bell to Atlanta. That's basically Will J. Bill. I can talk about this Donovan on the hand Donovan. I Dunno my WanNa Change Your Senior Years in Utah. I want to bring it down. You got the Utah Condition. You're a Mormon put with saying I'm coming there. I put on the sooner you thing. Sloop nominee on audio come back to Atlanta. See you got the Cap Space. You like the city. I feel like they should be now more free. Agents have some issues with the Atlanta. Faithful here now because of cameras came and hurt. Oh listen we. We've talked a Kevin Mini. We're trying to get them to go with the nickname. Big Hurt hurt eating like it when you think about it. No velvet a like dirty ray. Who gave me okay? Came on when he'd be playing cave on okay. knocking on people. He's supposed to do okay As my own names and somebody else had another name form I I call him dirty red and came on. Okay we got enough minute for all of them up nicknames nicknames a Cam I called Canio Cam got a lot of things. I might call him Kim. New One day mccollum Cambodia. One day he'd like campaign you know his whole thing is Kampong Cham Fan Monday Cam Cameo campaign trail. I caught him budge stuff because they got a little little names. That go in a bunch of bunch stuff like cams one of those one of those guys you were saying like grown up with people like the stuff. The France is here so I need to start doing. I'll do my part to But we get some stars really. I think we can do it now. I mean I feel like you know. Try nive started off pretty strong also and I feel like you know once once. We have a couple. Coupla younger guys like step up into step into the shoes that we've been waiting for them that we have available ready for him to step into opportunity in the world. You know we're ready to go now. You this is your three. Yes dessert but I feel like everybody on the team. Still either your age or younger than you. Do you feel like a vet. Also because I've been trying to like explain everybody. Yeah 'cause like People Cam d Andre. You've been longer than all these like. I didn't hear enough members bearing along to you. Scrape out I think I have more games played. Because he's had such a like he had such a crazy time in the league like like you know up and downs injuries in his family He's had a craze Tom in but he's a he's the only person from the coach. Bud Era from that coach from the team. That coach Bud coached. He's the last person from not and I'm like the connecting. The piece is I was here like through CODA Bud but dre was on the team before he was. He's actually on the team right. We're right before we went rebuild Moat Gotcha so he was part of the gene and then like Sam the connecting piece. Because I was there when we started to rebuild but we still coach by here coming to older guys here. In the next year we drive to train and Kevin and the next year we plumped in Cam in in dray in Bruno and then halfway through the year again this year and you have the Rosser vistas the vet. But he hadn't been two or three judge says half a year and a half so this'll be two years after when he finishes yes he's the old man in the group. But you know Vincent Oh Gee like I'm like the I guess the team. Oh Gee I say drain on but when you look at it and like game playing this and that and you say the young is for leading the new core I you know I gotta Say Myself Guys. One basketball question shore like you play some like dwayne docked Wayne deadman he more space in the floor. Bruno's more of a rim runner. Would you prefer like playing off either? One of those guys are a game for you. The way not really no like I feel like you put me at two four either. Those guys whatever they do I can opposite. You'd have Bruno. Wants remember on fine. I can space to corner or cut off his his lay drives. Because I don't know why people think just because you have a five on the court it automatically means that I'm like you know what I mean I can still roanoke and being dunker while I roll. Bruno sit in the corner like in cut in slash perfect his game. Yeah and then. Dwayne obscene doing a stretch five who can space. And that's easy money. He's GonNa sit in the corner and if you help dot if not I'm trained planning pick and roll. Whatever so I mean. It hasn't really changed my my game. More my mindset. You know what I'm saying like Okay Bruno's in a game I'm probably going to have to shoot more threes rather than a game. Probably going to be rolling more you know. How do you play some center lately? How do you like it? I like it and I don't like I don't I'm honestly I like it on offense. I hate it on defense. Like bigs are slow. Light can them running and Brian? They get tired like defense stronger than me. Bigger like not much. I can do so. It's like it's like a it's like giving saying game is like on offense. You can't army but on defense not saying I can't go five but if I'm if somebody is has me I'll match by fifty pounds drag. Would you want me to? Who's strongest person? Who Somebody using. Stephen Jo L. Drives Adams joking. 'cause your looks massive on the Court. Yokich these he'll he's GonNa like he gonNA play and be like minutes who'd this looks like. Why is this do play like this? Why things like this and like look slow and then you look up. He's GonNa have trouble right on you. Did he's going to be hitting like fade away one lady rainbows shot by roll. Stop making it. But he's like that's his game. It's like weirdest game ever. But he's who's the toughest person you've ever not necessarily owners really why you can't block his know enough and like I was dirt because like insane mode of like unblock moments shots right at high release point. Yeah Yeah and I'm already so hit hit cash. You still play at it though back. Hit cash he's Then you're not going to see his his hand like he's GonNa like he's strong. He's like like silently strong dude like he plays a fought resting place filings and big guy. He's unit three now like I like I like. He's one of the guys like you know. I try to learn from skill wise because I feel like he didn't have a lot of athleticism but was super skilled. Very inconsistently like cooked right. He evolved shooting the three two km. He wouldn't really differently really when he came in. And I feel like I'm the same with him is like he does come into the league shooting threes but like all new. He can shoot threes right. His mid range appeared off tonight right understand he steps out and he puts time on three point line like he's going to start making you know like La and last question before we get you. What are you listening to him? After the game during Games was he a car right. Now you know my turn which is on the streets right now fire Listen to Nudie ME START NAMING HIM YEAH. Do people actually listen to these two absolutely love new got young? Nudie. I'm listening to obviously got wounded headphones right now. I'M A big thug. I've got GONNA hot. Yes I mean. Young boy guy does say. Yeah okay. I'll say him again. He deserves to be lodging. I'm waiting on him. To drop down. Uzi dropped album forever. Playboy Cardi's tough. Yeah I didn't expect here logic. Honestly no yes. That's why I keep on naming them now. You can call me. Mid-atlantic question who come to the Games? Southbound TABUCHI SASKATOON CHAINS GUCCI GUCCI. Good I saw Gucci. Oughta games though so I can't do. All Games me goes at be an auto games shos out to the dream I said Busey boosting to change migos the dream big boy. Big Boy big charts. Killa might do my friends. My dudes Chowdhary by two games. They showed long John Sola back. Fill me I say I've got so many young artists but you called me on. You got me on the spot right now. So I'm at home and I was like yeah we we have some time because I'm a double back to the second thing you dislike about Atlanta to forgot about that one bit so I saw the twenty one twenty one so I'll give you some east. I'm going to be awesome. Some Bay area so shos out to shoreline shots and Mike sure. Fill me Sauce OUT TO LOU GEHRIG cash shos out to Sue suffused ever get salads of Wafaa funeral saying Palm Beach in the building Trippy red is on fire. I now how can I forget the young goat? I was intrigued logic. Honestly I'm not gonNA Logic Kyle Carl tough it's called another guy like a weird do like a you know out in the way you one last more than one last one then we end it to me make it a not enough say to the Lee and give the Danes rounded out. Okay good good. Say who's the best dressed person on the team You could say you be honest. You know what I'm saying. I paid expressed those shows me. I'm saying I can't count you know mean but our assault say myself no good. How if I'm being if I'm being trying to other teammates dre memory difficulties in there was fluff it okay. I'll see you drink worst-dress man who's worse than the locker room. I think by the way we go to my locker room wise and I don't bed. Wrestling team can be honest like hurt. Vince. Old Man's it's worth some old massive but you're gonNA make him for every day from every day. I come here today hat or some jeans. The Cool Nike like healing got no like Jay's on most like Nike like like shot like some running shoe lucy hits like Kevin Kevin you know sometimes can can come in there a little questionable but questionable but he ain't looking like terrible. I like honesty dream. I wear some terrible. That's why I put him number one. 'cause I try you'll take like sometimes we come in and fly in other times coming there looking crazy but I feel like you know if you're willing to try and be threatening. You know a mess which I miss with that. I missed what at least trying to come his own so I respect it John Collins. Thank you for your time. So thank you big me on south thrown down to man.

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Week 10 Recap

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Week 10 Recap

"The Twentieth Century Fox brings you. The movie. Critics are calling big-screen moving making at its best. Ford versus Ferrari can miles not afford man. Oh we heard he's difficult. We're on the verge of something and now you tell me that I can't have the best man in the world behind the wheel Christian Bale and Bet Demon in store in one of the best films down on Ford versus for Arina. PG Thirteen may be inappropriate for children under thirteen Friday only in theaters. Okay see welcome in advance focus football. PODCAST Monday November eleven. Feel the Matthew hanging out with you on a very special day force. Today Marks Veterans Day where we celebrate. I really appreciate all those who have served are currently serving or will one day serve our country the most indispensable parts of our great nation are those who are willing to dedicate their life to it serving serving it protecting our freedom and doing more than most could ever reasonably imagine doing incredible sacrifice. I couldn't agree more field and I would just just like to add to that. In addition to those that have served or currently serving or will serve. I'd like also to extend that to their families because while we think about the men and women and who serve our country the fact is that there are people at home there are husbands and wives and brothers and sisters and daughters and and parents that also have to sacrifice to be without their loved one to to you know to raise children on their own to. There's it's a tremendous into sacrifice for not just the people in the service but their family members as well and so I think it's important to recognize and salute them as well that includes of course source our own Daniel DOPP that DOPP. Then you'll DOPP and his brother both served our country. Daniela appreciate you daily for all that you do in this podcast. It's an all that you brought to our great country. I appreciate you to field so Daniel spent six years. Yup and was in intelligence was was in the secrets. World Hands Secret Squirrel so a lot of people often ask where that nickname comes from. That's where it comes from is because those in the intelligence community correct often were nicknamed secret squirrel yet so It is not unique to Daniel but is unique to us here on the. Oh six zero podcast. If you're interested. If you'd like to hear or read more about Daniel's story I wrote about it was it last year two years ago last year so last year. If you just look up I think if you uh-huh Google love hate Daniel DOPP. My suspicion is that what will come up. That is accurate. That's what my mother tells me. Okay mom adopt says so mom. I'm adop- active on the twitter. Go by the way. Yeah shout out to Mama DOPP who again as we say we we We celebrate all the families of servicemen and women as as well so Mama what is your twitter handle dot Mama Mama. That's right I'm on top Mama Hersey p Mama and they always it always in the twitter chat if you WanNa have a live conversation. was there during the show. She watches every show. Auto Dot Mama and we love our very Own Daniel Dopp who you can find on twitter at Daniel DOPP or on instagram at something breaks so be sure to thank Daniel and every servicemen and women and their families service today. It's not nearly enough candidly. Just saying thank you for your service sending out a tweet taking a couple of minutes on podcast field. It's not nearly enough to recognize. Recognize the sacrifices that you and everyone else have made. But it's the least we could do no question about that. The news from the national football league instantly all right so if you are sitting here watching the live stream by the the way you may have noticed during a shot of dingle DOPP it. There is a cute as a button girl sitting behind the class as well on the in the studio in May be wondering to yourself who is that right and we have sary's guys can't possibly appeal to any sort of younger demographics with berry the host correct but we have a special especially guests here today. Not Kool Keith. Is the father of three wonderful children. The Addison which is allison is only daughter. Hello Alison again. Hello are you having fun here on at work with your dad today. Yeah Alison. How old are you again? Eight eight and are you a football fan. Yeah and you're a huge fan of which team Brown's the browns. Yeah just like your father that makes it a lot of sense. And what is your least favorite. Football Team steelers. Chris what are you actually call them. scramblers the squealers about that. The Pittsburgh squealers big game on Thursday night I can tell Alison could be ready for that. One Yeah squealers. Brown's how about day off from having a daddy daughter day. That's pretty listener. No one loves daddy daughter day more than me. Alison listen. I'm curious what What grade are you in third? You're in third grade. Wow so you started. You started early eight year old daughters but they're in second grade. We held them back a little bit. What's your favorite subject in school? Science Science Oh what do you like about science and say expulsions explosions are pretty sweet and also learned before the show you do gymnastics right Alison yet and I saw you do a cartwheel earlier. What's like the coolest thing that you can do gymnastics? Do you do the beam. Do you do the bars. What's your favorite type of gymnastics? The floor vault the vault. WHOA I couldn't do that no he couldn't neither could I? To be honest. I feel could do it worse than I could do. I feel that's not very I saw him to say. Is it now no Alson when you're in school. Do they teach you anything about like teamwork and and and You you know how to how to be a classmate and a good friend at school. Yeah what's the what's the rule. They teach you just others others the way you won't be treated that's a good rule for you on twitter. Their field I'm sorry. Say Cardinals has gotten into your mentioned this morning. The same for you decide for you. Well let's have one more question who's GonNa win on Thursday in and Alison the Browns Brown to the squealers answered like a Browns Fan. Yeah squealers okay. I have a aggressive Franson. Okay what's your last question. Last question is how is is your Daddy Good Daddy. Yeah Yeah I bet it. Is You bet. He is like them out here as well. So they go having knock Wilkie from the show every day even a day where he isn't technically supposed to be at Work Erkki brings his daughter in and hopefully we can provide her with an hour of entertainment. Yes so let's get now nice job. Great job there by Allison and we start our recap of week. Ten Matthew in Allison Allison is one hundred and eighty degrees from David Johnson. It's a very good point. Point Alison did a great job. Alison outperformed expectations. David Johnson not so much David Johnson managed a robust zero. Oh fantasy points yesterday now if you play in nondecimal scoring he actually got you minus one. NPR A Monster Day from David Johnson but Matthew unlike unlike that game a few weeks ago when he had just one touch he played thirty snaps yesterday. So it's not like he was a total non factor in terms of overall snaps APPs. The problem was he was part of a work share deputy was ineffective. Now we knew that. This buccaneers run defense was really good questions about whether he'd be able run the football but like is this now. Is this like a running back by committee situation in Arizona. Kenyan drake play more snap than he got the first two touches of the game mm-hmm he looked better. I mean is this autumn as you say like forget numbers. Forget everything just from the eye test. Yeah Kenyan Drake Look Good Drake look like the guy we saw the the week before against the forty niners. David Johnson looked like who's that fat old guy. Seriousness like. I mean like David Johnson. I Love David Johnson. You guys know this like he is his long been one of my favorite players in the NFL. He has been on the podcast as well. So I WANNA be clear like I am Pro David Johnson. I'm a longtime time David Johnson Fan and supporter. He did not look like David Johnson yesterday. And I think that's credit to David Johnson. Because he's clearly not one hundred percent healthy. He got up there to try to gutted handed out. I don't know about that though. He did not look like David Johnson. But I don't have any reason to believe he's not close to one hundred percent health. He was a full participant in practice all week. If he wasn't close to healthy they would just limit him all week. I think he's healthy. I think he just got thinks so. We'll fight yesterday healthy number to not be the primary concern for me. I just felt like on runs. He looked slow. Oh he looked right but I mean just like you know. Just we had the ball on his hands. He didn't look he looked. He looked bigger than I'm I'm used to seeing him. Lucky lucky I don't know he didn't look like David Johnson to me. It's it's tough on your. Here's why next up. Go San Francisco. Yeah the game is in San Francisco. They played them last week. We saw Kenyan drake do work against the forty niners but still. It's a good defense and they go on to by then they play the rams which all the rams. I'm not quite sure what the defense is really made of. And then the steelers who are all of a sudden a really good defense for the next four weeks sure which that means the final three regular season plus the first week of of the first week of the fantasy playoffs. I don't know what you do with David. Johnson and Kenyan drake for that matter. We're going to hell week by week. Obviously but we are after him. I'm on your team. I don't I mean you know we'll see what the practice reports are. We'll see if anything comes out. I I I hear you. I know what the practice reports said. I understand that I'm just. I'm I'm telling you from the eye test. That didn't look anything close to the David Johnson remember even when he was in space like. I'm not even saying that. Hey was bottled up or anything like that. He just he you know. And whether it's because he's coming back from injury and maybe just takes a game or two and we saw it with Melvin Gordon Right. It took a few weeks. But Melvin Gordon Find Locally Melvin Gordon like David Johnson's too young and too talented to in this ineffective like it'll get better. The question is when does it get better in time for the fantasy playoffs. And if you're sitting there and you're you're five and five after this week or your six and four and you're in the middle of playoff run. Like how much do you trust him. And I don't I think the answer is he can't trust them that much. Like if I could get if I could get at seventy five or eighty percent. Eighty cents on the dollar for David Johnson Right now based on name recognition. I would do it in a heartbeat. Yeah I think so too. I'm starting to get pretty nervous about this. Well because you have to wonder or two if eventually they take the long view of this and say hey listen. Let's say this injury does link earners approach. Maybe it's more of a problem than I'm giving credit for right now. If you Kenyan drake you you can rely on him. Rely on down the stretch. If David Johnson does not healthy enough to go running back that's making a ton of money and still has a belief two years in his contract after this. You might take the long David Johnson especially given that. We expect the current expectations that chase. EDMUNDS will be back this week. I've seen some reports on that. We'll see we'll see how tangible but very it's it's in the mix there and look. The cardinals aren't going to the playoffs this year. Like the the last three games. Not since I got into that too you know. Listen I'm not saying it's is caused. I'm not saying it's not. I'm just saying that since the cardinals came after fan since the cardinals official twitter handle came after fantasy managers there. Oh and three is Karma the thing you tell me they actually game win streak. They WANNA three game win streak. They came after fantasy managers. They trolled fantasy football nation and I had a few words with them and since that time there now in three you tell me is it. 'cause I don't know I'm not saying I'm just saying that's a win for tomorrow. Right there in Karma's undefeated. Well just say one more Cardinal Note Matthew is that yesterday Christian Kirk actually had his first receiving touchdown of the season humour six for one thirty eight with three touchdowns. He's got ten or more targets and four of seven games. Like do we. If you have Christian Kirksey your lineup. He's healthy display regardless of matchup because the volume is so good and the talent is good enough that I understand touchdown for fleeting literally literally up until yesterday but you saw the immense upside of a player that they've got a lot invested in and could be the centerpiece of their offense leaks in the passing. Game when Larry Pitcher eventually retires. There's no question about that. He's gotten red zone target in six of seven games so far this year. So you're confident about that and look. This was a perfect match up against Tampa Bay. You know obviously has a brutal secondary but you know. Look he since he returned in week eight right. He's actually started to line up some on the perimeter as well five. I for one twenty three and two touchdowns on eight targets when he's lined up out wide. which is exciting and you know they go four wide a decent amount as well rest the season I would if if if asking me to pick a cardinals pass catcher I would prefer Christian Kirksey Larry Fitzgerald for sure and I've been there for a while I think for a while right and so Christian Kirk was we talked doc them up on fantasy football now he was a top twelve? Play for a lot of us I believe including you and I this week and so that ended up working out. San Francisco is not ideal obvious in the the by and we mentioned the schedule Niners by Ram steelers but given the volume of passing that the cardinals do and the expectation is they'll be down in. DC The number games. Especially if David Johnson isn't being effect as effective as he has they're going to find different ways to move the ball and so yeah I mean I think he's a wide receiver three and he's more of a wide receiver to and the right match but after this game. I don't know how you bench. Well the only thing I'll say and we just mentioned it with David Johnson that schedules even more perilous. As it pertains to pass sure sure right. I mean San Francisco by Rams steelers. That's an impressive set of defenses. They're about to face that being said you have to feel good about the volume there and the talent. Let's move forward to Kareem Hunt because he made his season debut yesterday for the Browns and Matthew one of my thoughts during the week last week was that what I was hopeful for war was I liked the fact by the way that I like that you keep track of your thoughts during the week. Okay one of my thoughts during the week. Like like as if you've got a bunch of thoughts and when you you have a thought you're like you know what this is a thought that I'm having and you just sort of write it down my calls of the week. Whatever would you rather have? I called it a call. Sure I wanna I know I liked it. You call it a because then I could make fun of you. What are my thoughts during the week? L. Starts may field thoughts from the field. I like it yeah. I'm on on board with that. Big We need some sort of sound or something like that thoughts from the field last thought from the field last week. That when Kareem Hunt made his Brown's Stabia it would not come at the cost of Nick Chop I was hoping they'd follow the Green Bay model and yesterday they follow the Green Bay model. Aaron Jones Kabq Chubb Jamal Williams Cream Hunt. It's not exactly a carbon copy bites. The idea was that Kareem Hunt could see some work on his own like with without nick on the field but he could also see plenty of work on the field at the same time as Nick Chub and yesterday Harry it was four carries for thirty yards. which doesn't blow you away? He had nine targets seven catches yesterday. Fourteen point four fantasy points. He actually outscored Nick Chop despite the fact that Chubb had twenty two touches and Kudos to you by the way at the start of fantasy football. Now we each did like kind of a long shot in a bold prediction election in your bold prediction. Yesterday was double digit. Fantasy points for Kareem Hunt Day. You know you said ten fantasy points cream hunt when it even better fourteen point four and I think given even the uncertainty about his role Very nice call by you. Certainly worked out wasn't fastest of calls. I'd conceited but still the idea that like some people wanted to wait a week. Kareem Hunt they wanted to see him earn their way. That was my call. Yeah and I felt like you know there. There had to be for as little competence as the Browns coaching. Staff as inspired in terms of maximizing playmakers this year. They actually did a nice job yesterday with Kareem Hunt which makes me think matthew that he is kind of comparable to Jamaa Williams again going forward now. I think he's more talented player obvious. Of course but I think the Kareem Hunt and again the browns we now have what eight teams left to have their by the browns already had. There's like I think he'll be somewhere between between twenty and thirty. My running back ranks each week depending on who they're playing against. I think that's right. I look you know. Six teams were on a by last week so the the pickings were a little bit slim. Buffalo did Real Nice Job and shutting down Odell Beckham Junior so looking for other opportunities to sort of move the ball and they did a nice job. Bottling Up Nick Job is as you mentioned you know to the extent that you can and so I think that was partially just sort of looking around and trying to find it but it was clear that they that they had a design in mind. How can can we get Kareem hunt involved and touching the ball? Knowing how explosive a player he is and that's clearly what they did and this is what he does in his first game back. You have to be excited. Added moving forward very much viable flex play moving forward with upside for more. It didn't quite cash in but Odell Beckham Junior. If you watch the game yesterday. Yeah sure the browns were intent on getting the football hundred percent yet. Twelve targets and including some of the end zone like they tried not only that but in the NFL. You're not credited with target if a penalty is called on the play so Odell had two separate throws to him in the end zone where he was basically tackled so oh neither of those is credited as an end zone target or a target period. They tried everything they could to do. Two things one get Odell Beckham junior the football in the end zone to you. Find the way to not score from the two yard line but thirty one percent thirty one percent target chair in week ten. You compare that with a twenty two percent target share weeks five through nine so a clear clear increase in an attempt to get him. The ball snapped seven straight games without a touchdown as bartending. It's it's unnerving I would just say this guy I forget our friend. Dj Gallo Notice Mentioned this on twitter and tweeted at Minka Fitzpatrick the defensive offensive back. Yeah has more touchdowns this year than Odell Beckham Junior about right Christian Kirk scored three times as many touchdowns in week as Oto Beckham Junior underscored this year. But so what I would say for Odell is that not obviously listen. You wanted to touch down. Of course we can decide whether the steelers are a massive disadvantage for opposing wide receivers Mike Clay as potential as continually harped on weeks. Eleven through seventeen as being more generous for Odell than the I ten weeks of his schedule the schedule lightens up. If you have been riding the wave of Odell got in Europe is that like hey. Maybe they turned a corner. Maybe they had a long hard look in in the mirror and they realize that even if it calms comes at the cost of efficiency elsewhere. Let's just use our best playmakers. The ball needs to be in the hands of Odell. Nick Chubb Kareem Kareem Hunt and Jarvis. Landry if Rashard Higgins has a game winning touchdown. Because there's so much tension going somewhere else. Whatever for the most part it's going to be those four guys as it should be? I I basically just want you to know that like I primed the pump for the OB. Jay released like I knew it wasn't coming this year but I knew it was it was it was definitely like you know. So you're you're you're calling it Sweden. I'm calling it this way. Okay good do you want right now. You wait till Thursday third. The play on Thursday nights on Thursdays. Let's get to the next and they and they play Pittsburgh on Thursday night. It's a short week and then just you mentioned the schedule very quickly. So after the steelers on Thursday they've got ten days prepare for a home game against the dolphins then there at the steelers again and their home to Cincinnati. Certainly certainly next with the bengals actually. Is that right. Yeah two more match with the bengals dolphins and depending on what you think on the steelers secondary because yesterday they were really good in previous weeks they were not so great wheelers squealers. That's right. They're they're they're they're the squealers not cool anymore. Not Cool Kief you a neither am I. Hey Key Kooky you You agree with Our assessment of the Browns your thoughts on that game. No I think the way he broke it down was exactly how I saw it. They definitely please don't put a lot more attention into making sure that OJ was getting touches and obviously didn't play out statistically but yes I was really happy with the way they approach it. Obviously down the goal line line they just need to have better play calling. I don't know why you don't. Why Bring all eleven guys in tight? Spread 'em out. Make eight football. Give yourself a chance. It was was analysis paralysis. They over thought too much happens frequently in coaching not surprised that happened yesterday will continue to happen going forward. Let's play some something or nothing matthew. Some players that surprisingly had monster days yesterday and do we think it amounts to something or do we think that maybe not so much to begin with Daria slate. who had ten catches for one hundred twenty one yards and two touchdowns twice as many as Odell Beckham has all season? He has multiple touchdown receptions for the second time in his past three games. He is a big play waiting to happen happen. He's a plenty of speed sterling. Shepherd is currently out with a concussion. Something or nothing here for the speedy fifth round. Pick out of auburn factoring in the giants. Do go on a by this upcoming week. They do so. Can I choose both sure. Here's what I will say I so something. It is both something and it has nothing. It is something in this sense. Kids a talented player. Like forget anything else just like you watch the Kid Mike he can play. They found something. The giants found something variously so like just an impressive young man on the football field You know making making contested catches making sidelines with the toe taps. Like he's just he's he's an impressive young man just on the football field so I would say that something from that sense. And also you mentioned sterling shepherd out so look Sterling Shepard. Look we we hope for the best. It does not feel like he's coming back anytime soon. If you read the tea leaves that we don't know there are people in New York who cover the team diligently who were asking asking saying like some of his teammates wonder if he would ever play football again right which is racer. I want the best for for Sterling in his health. I thought scary thought very scary thought but given the way the season has gone for the giants. The expectation is that. It's it's going to be later rather than sooner that we see Sterling Shepard back on a football field so there's opportunity there for dairy slate who certainly made a name for himself and certainly seems to have a connection with Daniel Jones. It is nothing I believe because of you mentioned their schedules. So they're on a by this week then they're at Chicago home to Green Bay Ad Philadelphia. So you don't like the next two weeks. Green Bay and Philadelphia. Don't scare you as much but But Remember Evan Ingram playing this game either and saquon Barkley did nothing in this game. And you have to expect that if you're thinking about this team team in terms of past catches on this team that in general week with with full health that at best Darius lateness fourth after after Barclay Ingram Golden Tate. And so he he had the two touchdown game a couple of weeks ago but then you know week eight. He had to he. You know we had the two touchdowns touchdowns against the giants but did nothing like the inbetween and week nine right. It's so it's very up and down. So he's an. I'll say I'm going to tie this into Jones because my logic applies to both of these players Jones yesterday had three hundred eight passing yards. Three passing touchdowns added twenty rushing yards. Thirty point three fantasy points. He was great third. Her Time at Dinghy Jones has been a good spot. This your fantasy moment. I didn't think he had four touchdown passes we may have four. He had four to golden tate into to dairy ages. I'm I'm Clark Four passing touchdowns yesterday dingle jumps to the the I'm going to use the same logic. Applies here the upcoming schedule. You alluded stu the Biden in Chicago then Green Bay and Philly but look at the playoffs scheduled for. Oh yeah the giants playoff schedule at Philly home Miami at Washington home to Philly unbelievable so we are now two weeks away from buys being a thing of the past matthew some lineups some teams may have already basically had every player of consequence. Go through his respective Activi- right but there's certainly some teams that are going to you're gonNA have to do with Patrick mahomes coming up on a buying things like that. But if you're somebody that is in the bulk of your roster go through a by especially your star star players go through a by. I don't hate the idea of adding other Darius Layton or Daniel Jones especially if you have a stickies quarterback situation right now. Sure sure because when you get to that playoff schedule if this continues especially if they're especially being Jones because Jones has been good three separate times against bad teams then you might have players lawyers. You could insert into your lineups in the plan. And I know you're saying like you really going to start Daniel Jones in the playoffs. Look at some of the quarterbacks that have been less than we expected. Jury laid an egg against the Falcons Hogan's yesterday so things can weird stuff happens in fantasy football. Maybe you're concerned. I'm not seeing her in a bench Patrick Mahomes but the chiefs have a very difficult schedule in the playoffs. The saint of a difficult schedule in the playoff. There are certain in certain. Yeah you don't feel great about Baker Mayfield Wilson struggles tonight against the the forty niners. They planned by then again. You'd be like Whoa. You know hasn't been what you drafted righty. I assume it's not totally inconceivable that your quarterback could be less. You've expected so far right. So Ryan Tannehill speaking of quarterbacks. Tom Brady Tom. Tom Brady at for all his greatness. If you look at what. His numbers are in the fantasy playoffs. They tend to go more run heavy the as it gets close like he has never been at least in recent memory. He's never been a huge fantasy star during the fantasy plans as great as Tom Brady is and so. You can certainly see a scenario in which Daniel Jones will have valued or in the fantasy playoffs in addition to Darius late two more quarterback here matthew because again sort of same idea Ryan Tannehill L.. And Kyle Alan. Tannahill goes for eighteen point. Nine fantasy points there now. Three and one in games. He started. Now he's heads onto a by. Obviously a massive win yesterday Over Kansas City huge Kyle Allen throws for three hundred plus yards. Just thirteen point five fantasy points but he's a starter for a long time Cam. Newton's been placed on injured reserve kyle. Allen plays the Falcons next week if something or nothing for either one of these players because it has ten helping good enough that you could roster him for a week before he even plays and then throw them into your lineup and same deal for Carlisle Mexicali Allenby a streaming option for you in week. Eleven with again. Four four more quarterbacks on a by not Tom Ahead but not as many of the top quarterbacks but still you've got guys like Cala Maranhao by this week. I'm sorry not this week. Maybe next week but anyways era Jonah by amongst other players there's some good players in the by this week Yes and so. I'm going to say something for both these guys Ryan. I Tan has been a revelation and it continues to just make Marcus Mariota and his struggles. Look worse and worse and worse but then heels look good like since Since his in the last four games he's the tenth best quarterback and fantasy on a per game basis top. Yeah he's a top ten fantasy quarterback over the last four weeks on a point per game basis averaging over twenty fantasy points per game. And and you know you've mentioned this before we've talked about this people. People forget that Ryan Tannehill started his career Tech Sam as a wide receiver. He's much more mobile than I think he gets. Credit for. Seven for seventy five and a touchdown over the last two weeks just with his legs and so yeah we like. That's a hell of a win for Tennessee. That's a hell of a win for them against the Kansas City chiefs and Tanna Hill with no Corey Davis in this game. No Delaney Walker in this game and impressive You know especially when you think about how run heavy they WANNA be like. Yes I think Tannahill is is a viable liable. Streamer this week and going forward. And he's on a bi. But I'm just saying like and same with Kyle Allen like again I'd like this week is Atlanta. I know when etter obviously yesterday but believe it or not. Not Going to buy into the Falcons being you know this reformed defense after just one. Yeah I'm not either. You know so. Call Al Callahan. I look they want. They lost that game too the packers but I was impressed as a lot with Kyle Allen like getting no protection whatsoever on the road at Lambeau snowing going bad conditions like you know and I thought some interesting play calling you know. Maybe I'm looking at this too much from a fantasy perspective from just like like why are you not dumping off and why are you not dumping it off to the most explosive player in the NFL right now. Like like you know. Like I don't know I. It felt like they could have involved. McCaffrey more especially rush on that last drive. But whatever cow Allen is you know listen you you wish. He was a little bit more accurate at times but given the conditions yesterday like he's a gutty kid. Eight starts in his career. Like I'm I'm I'm actually encouraged with courage by the overall look one of the I. Listen I made good calls and bad calls. I believe one of my best calls of the year was when Cam Newton was out the very first thing I said Guys Cowan can play you guys like and I just like. He's going to be a lot better than you think he is. And I had him as a love that first week against Arizona like Cowan can play like. I'm you know I think the I think the Carolina Panthers have a decision to make this offseason. They sure do. We'll get into that much more. As we get closer to the end of the season I like how the streamer I agree with you. I think both things or something Tannahill and Cowan depending on what your needs. Are this week or for the future. I think both viable pickups you know that fantasy football feeling when the excitement of a new week builds your flex you flex your analytical skills by pouring over stats studying charts and trying to spot trends. What if I told you that you can use those skills to invest and feel that same sense of anticipation every day? 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Monday know the severity of devante Freeman foot injury but we do know that Bright Hill is the next man up Brian Hale all had twenty carries for sixty one yards ten yard touchdown reception as well Hale for those unfamiliar with a former fifth round pick out of Wyoming. Who started his career with the Falcons? I got waived claimed by the bengals wave by the bengals claimed again by the Falcons in a world in which devante Freeman Mrs Time Matthew. Brian Hill and rb to is he a guess as a flex play are we. Do I think so. It's a good offense the struggles that Atlanta's had this year has has been defensive right. You know they've been able to move the ball fairly effectively and so with Edo Smith on I R if Devante Freeman you know. We talked about them. A little bit Last last week as well this is kind of an interesting pickup. Follow social media over the weekend But yes I mean Brian Hills going to be the guy you know. I was encouraged. By the fact that he caught the touchdown has done pass. It's one play whatever but the fact that he could be he could be used as a three down back that they're comfortable throwing the ball that he's a decent pass catcher as well. It's pretty pretty thin. Depth chart after Brian Hill my expectation. I my expectation is they. May they'll sign somebody or maybe someone from the that my expectation is that if devante freeman is to miss some time here and we don't know as we record this Monday morning at ten thirty two. Am We don't know the extent of the injury. But if he were to miss some time I would think Brian Hill would be your number one. Pick up on your free agent finds column it is we're at the juncture of the season by the way for those just as a message or like a PSA where free agent fines is not quite the same column as it was in week three right knee. Injuries can certainly change things but most of the players that we've been pounding the table for for for several weeks have either crossed the fifty percent threshold or things have changed for them but yes. Brian Hill currently listed as my number one waiver at of the week a player Flyer that just based off of opportunity alone as a chance that you know this is twenty or so carries. This is the same sort of workload you can expect. You could have expected out of Mark Walton just in a better more efficient offense with more chances for a touchdown. Twenty four sixty one probably doesn't look great. It does not but twenty eight number. I'm more concerned with well. Sure I mean exactly I mean again. Twenty four sixty. One probably doesn't look great but you have to understand. The saints are a really good defense. Despite what happened yesterday like the saints are a very good defense. And so I don't know getting sixty one yards a game that you weren't expected to do much against the saints like you'll see us. I I agree with you. Much more encouraged by twenty twenty versus a sixty one and obviously the lead in this game but still yes. I would think that if Freeman Mrs Time Hill is your number one pickup so Ronald Jones had his best game as a receiver yesterday in the NFL. Eleven carries for twenty nine yard touchdown but eight catches for seventy seven yards. Which means twenty two point? Six fantasy fantasy points for Roggio tells you it's a change player. He certainly looks much much more competent. This year matthew are trusting Ronald Jones. Now think SORTA Kinda yeah to the extent you trust anyone in the buccaneers offense trust Evans and Godwin. Obviously but yeah in in certainly certainly in the backfield the eight catches for seventy seven yards. Is what really caught my eye. Because that's always been a part of his game that he had into the game for all season right and so that's never been a big part of Bruce Arians offense either by the way it's always been much more about downfield passing so dumping off to the running back Blake. Johnson had some good years hundred Bruce. Yes obviously. I mean it's weird I don't I don't think of David. Johnson is like a human like he's not like a normal. I'm just saying like what do we have. David David Johnson for you right now. No no I mean I like David John was so inhuman was so unbelievable in in his years with Bruce. You know what I mean like I just like he's an outlier is what I mean anomaly. Talented that's what I mean. But other than David Johnson. You haven't scene at a ton Anyway the fact is we certainly haven't seen it with Tampa Bay this year and so it's it was certainly nice to see with with Ronald Jones. He's now scored three of past passed for two of the last three. I'm sorry str- each of the last two games and three the last four. He scored a rushing touchdown. And so yeah you know Bruce Suresnes this week sort of said like hey. I think Ronald Jones deserves more opportunity and certainly in terms of total touches. He got it in this game game. In which the buccaneers one they did they want US came. It was a fat is actually a very entertaining game. This this is Kinda reminds me of like the random NBA game. That goes like one thirty two to one twenty eight even if it features like the worst teams was in the NBA important win for Tampa Bay snapping that four-game loss but matthew sort of a fantasy go situation near Oj. Howard at four catches for forty seven yard touchdown? Now he also played against the Arizona cardinals right who have been. I mean historically poor defending tight end so far they have been basically every notable category in tight end stats. They are the worst in the NFL. Now I'm I've Long said this like I think sometimes tight end Sassy. He built grain of salt because there are so few capable tight ends but they've even made less than capable tight ends look awesome. Here's difference Oh to Howard is good like this is what he should do. We should not surprise by four forty seven with touchdown for OJ Howard. Yeah no he's the he's the eighth different tied into score over eleven fantasy points against the Arizona cardinals so far this year still has yet have more than four catches in a game so far this year just one game with fifty or more receiving yards. I think look it's encouraging and that he did what a tight end should do against the Arizona cardinals right. He was productive but we need to see any more of it now the tight end position so desolate that he certainly worth picking up. I would assume he makes you free in their. Just you know like listen I. It's not that I'm saying you have to start artem because of what he did this past week. It's more that if this is part Arizona cardinals defense and part. He's now healthy and the the cardinals. I'm sorry the buccaneers have message something to him. That like we need you and you're going to be the guy that's pushing going forward. Then that part might be more important than might eventually earned him into your lineup. Every single week home to New Orleans at Atlanta at Jacksonville. Home to indy. It's actually not a bad schedule for tight. Ends coming up and so either by which is important too. You're looking at players right now. That you have to factor one week of them not playing for the next two and he's not one of them. We're GONNA come back and talk about a player. Who has your INNOC- points but we found out it's going to happen ninety minutes before the game begins but first a message from the fantasy show chiefs fall the titans yesterday before? The game with Shawn McCoy was announced as an inactive the EMISS- initial interpretation interpretation of that at least from my view Matthew as the fumble a couple of weeks ago the ineffectiveness since they have been Shawn Mccoy and then next thing you know maybe five minutes or so later several of the reporters at the game all got the same message tweets saying. I'm told I am told this arrest game so clearly. The chiefs worked hard or I don't know somebody worked hard to make sure that it was clear. This was a rest opportunity for the Shawn McCoy. Some load management if you will but are you buying that Matthew. Do you think that the chiefs would actually rest Lucia McCoy. This feel I mean honestly I I haven't thought too much about this but can you recall a player being arrested arrested and NFL game when it wasn't like week fifteen sixteen or seventeen suo lot to play for so Adam Taisho covers the chiefs for us here at. ESPN tweeted this us. About right. After it was announced that he was a healthy scratch. Okay well Shawn McCoy. Being inactive is due to three factors his fumbling problem Damian Damian Williams is healthy and playing better and the chiefs desire to get Darwin Thompson into the plane rotation now that is that is what I bought into. Great me me too but then yes to your point a lot of other a lot of other reporters that cover the team tweeted out the the fact that yes this was a this was expected. Rest Day they to me they were six and three. Like it'd be one thing if you were you know if if if you were the four hours eight now and the rest of their division stinks but like right now if the player and I know they don't but the playoffs began today the chiefs to be the fourth seed in the AFC. This is not like this is now. This is a tough road game on the road at Hat Tennessee and again. I'm not try and by the way Darwin Thompson I believe got one Kerry. Yeah I think he had to touch yesterday. Maybe one Kerry yes so right now matthew. So maybe maybe maybe next week they bounce back and he is our next Monday night. He'll be playing but that's a Monday night football game. There's a lot of risk right now so I think think I think right now. I don't feel prepared to make a full on assessment of La Shawn McCoy status until we hear more from Andy. Reid probably starting Thursday. They have this week when they're back into their preparation for the chargers. They play the rams in Mexico City Hall. Phone that'll be. That should be a real fun woman. It's become clear though at least over the past couple of weeks. Is that this William Shop Right now. Yeah I say right now very very specific. Because here's the thing he had a fumble that was returned for a touchdown in a game. They lost cost now. Now they went right back to Williams but Leshan McCoy was an active. So I mean maybe there's some like if you want to hang your hat on anything. A positive note would be the the fact that Daryl Williams was active for this game. And they like Daryl Williams I mean Daryl Williams Williams and McCoy were a little bit banged up early in the year. Got Some decent run so if it was a doghouse situation you know they might not have gone. Immediately back to Damian Williams which they did is interesting. It's really I mean. Dean listened but he did for losing. The fumble return for a touchdown obviously is brutal. But that's not why the chiefs lost that game it. It's one of the factors stories and right but their defense let them down so co to put a pin on this matthew last year it was. It doesn't matter who plays in the backfield VAT players going to have huge fantasy value right this year it does matter. They're averaging just twenty two point eight fantasy points per game this season he was chiefs running back. So it's GonNa get one guy or you need clarity and right now. The clearest picture suggests Damian Williams job but after that fumble yesterday who's to say Leshan McCoy won't don't get right back into the fray next week. This is a tricky one for right now. He is a shaky but filled with upside rb to is what what he is right. Now and when my ranks come out and I'm sure the same as you I will have dame Williams ranked the highest of any candidate to running back by a significant margin right and I will by the way I will have Shawn McCoy ranked I will take them at their at their word that he is. This is nature rest game. He'll be back in the lineup next. What but here's the weird parts? We it's weird because I'm just if that were the case why not addresses and just not play them because you never know. I mean somebody gets hurt you know. Like what if Damian Williams has gotten hurt. Then you're just going with Daryl Williams and Darwin Thompson like numbers game game. Yeah I guess. Yeah it's weird. He's not gonNA play special teams so you like all right. Let's move on to some. It's a weird one to us and I will say that if you haven't Shawn Mccoy Royan your team. You cannot be feeling good right about now. He dropped him. I wouldn't have a pro like if I saw him. Put it this way if I saw the Shawn McCoy on my waiver wire in one of my Leagues Leagues. I'm not picking them up right. If you could drop show at Brian Hill yes Mary Yeah I do. Yeah so I so I guess my point is tweak right I mean let's say let's just quickly if he has a great game next week who's to say they won't pull the plug after the bye right because they have a bye in week twelve by the way art math we had a bunch of clunkers yesterday. If they are nothing to you then you just move along if they are something you let me have it. It was it was. I want to say this to America. If you had a bad fantasy fantasy day yesterday you should not only. You're not alone but you should feel good about yourself. Actually because it means you probably have a very good team because not a lot of superstars or stars show too. I mean look I mean. I haven't I've team where I I got my my butt kicked right and the guy started it Christian Kurkin Daria slate and against me like and I had I had cooper cut my little Cooper Cup on that. But here's my question for you. What is more shocking? What is the most shocking thing because a couple of things? That's absolutely Bo. Cooper zero fantasy points against the steelers Sony or is it drew brees attempting forty five pass attempts against one and seventeen at home at home against a one and seventeen with one of the worst defense. NFL and drew brees stores about forty five times. And doesn't take yourself zero catches Cooper Cup. Who entered the NF who entered week ten with a top five target share so far this year? Who entered the week is I believe the fifth best wide receiver in fantasy? who was coming off of a game in which he had two hundred plus yards? Good News Bad News. Cooper Cup is averaging over one hundred yards per game and his last two outings bad news he had zero on Sunday. The against the steelers. Who for years have struggled against slot receiver? I think we need to put that narrative battle. Because they've been much better in recent weeks they had much been much better across the board defense with maybe that that is true steeler slot near post game so here we go saquon Barkley eight point one fantasy points. Matthew Thirteen carries for one on yard. He had negative thirteen yards before contact yesterday. This giants offensive line is a disaster. Right now. Doesn't mean anything for Saquon going forward or is it just just that. Hey as much as we thought he was the clear cut rb one coming into the season. He's more like five. I think that's right so right now. He's averaging sixteen eighteen point seven fantasy points per game. He's running back eleven on a points per game basis which is still very viable and useful. Course just not what you spent the number one overall pick on right if you added it over again you to take Christian McCaffrey number one overall and so his upcoming schedule there on a by this week hope basically Pat Shurmur digs down and tries to figure out what they can do to get him into space. You don't love the schedule right so it's a buy and then it's at Chicago right home to Green Bay. That's a little bit better at Philadelphia which has struggled recently against the run was good early on struggle recently against the run. Maybe by that time there a little bit healthier on the defensive line. Hopefully they've gotten some things figured out so you don't love the schedule but yes. I don't know that there's much you can do. I'm not it's going to be tough to sell saquon Barkley you know to try to trade him. I think you're just rolling them out there. You have to level set expectations cooper copy. Yesterday we talked a two by two zero Matthew Cooper cubs. Zero my little cooper. I'm still I'm still yep. I'm not bailing after one game. JEKYLL and Hyde so far this year. He's got four games inside the top ten. That's good got four games outside the top thirty matthew but again is just accepting the reality that some weeks are not going to be as good as others and understand that there may never never be a game again. This career rose zero. Zero songs is healthy in that game. Yeah I would think that's the case. Look the rams offense looks broken. Compared to what we think they are. Jared Goff I. I'm trying to think how much how much of his contract is. Guaranteed one hundred seven million bucks. That's that's a lot isn't it. Looks like a lot to me. It feels like a lot. Yeah feels like a lot Yeah so that's that's a tough one here and and you know you have to ultimately trust and Sean Vein staff to get this figured out I believe ultimately they will but given brandin cooks And his absence of you know from the from the team like you have to believe that they'll figure out to voice get Cooper up it. It appeared as if the steelers made a point of. We're GONNA take Cooper Cup out of this game and so as a result like yeah. Gerald levert tonight's Game Robert Woods. Tonight's game yeah. I mean the rams offense distinct on the road and the offensive line just stinks period as Pascal method to for twenty six yesterday. Not a great Dave for the colts wide receiver we thought would be a clearcut number-one option. They're passing game as a matter. They lost until like the eagles offense. This is the same the first time since I want to say it's been a long time. I don't know the exact number but that three one win teams one. Yeah this far in the season season right. I Bet Kyle could find a great stat of the Dolphins Navin multi game winning streak. There are definitely like other nine and seven the hardway baby go dolphins Zach Pascal. Matthew like kind of over one pick still in reach for my Washington redskins. Only the bengals tangles redskins handle redskin tail victory and bengals totally had that they. They got a game against Miami though. WELL THEY'RE GONNA lose. Maybe maybe we'll see. Pascal Donohue just probably reminded that like you know part of what what happens with the player. He's going to be. You must take the good with the bat. He's going to have some atypically strong weeks like last week. And he's GonNa have some weeks like yesterday where he disappoints. I agree agree with Jack Pascal. Matthew do we just wash away and you'll feel better about it. By the way Jacoby perset felt. He wasn't a game. Time decision was ruled out on Saturday but he practice a decent about not this week. Yeah feels like he's close to returning. It has a chance. Brian Hoyer really disappointed in that game and the Saints Matthew we can be quick here disappointing but I mean really like four game. Ah just a weird game album chimera still has eight catches fifteen point four fantasy points and drew brees. I mean forty-five attempts. I'll take that if he told me. Forty five attempts at home. Against the Falcons sign silence that all day every day every single day are the dolphins. Turn to your boy Kaelin Balaj yesterday. Matthew twenty carries for forty three yards and four catches for a robust two yards. Eight point and five fantasy points. It doesn't even matter that he's the starting starting Miami. No it doesn't like it's it's a bummer. You know he he is not been good this year the entire but in fairness to Colombo lodge no one there has not been one effective running back. Kenyan drake wasn't any good behind that dolphins line Mark Walton in the short. The time that he got run didn't do very much either. Lage was like whatever mini. gotcha eight fantasy points in this one. But I will say that I feel I. I see a lot of people taking victory laps on twitter about you know we warned you against Caleb Lodge Caleb Lage's. ADP was running back forty thirty nine. He wasn't even drafted in sixty one percent of ESPN leagues like if you drafted Kaelin Balaj and look. I'll cop to it like I liked him as asleep right. There was a path. Fantasy relevance wins for Kaelin blocks. which by the way there was who they were going to be this ethically bad been caleb? Lage's now the starter. He's gotten some run so he's got an opportunity he just hasn't done much with it like any dolphins uh-huh running back hasn't so I mean whatever running back forty nine if you if you draft your last round whatever you've been able to drop them and pick him up. It didn't kill you the the way that like. I Dunno drafting David. Montgomery did they montgomery was drafted as running back. Twenty anyone excited about David. Montgomery like what he's got. Korea largest for noobs David Montgomery aboard. Bit What Week did he. Yeah who is it against me. I was forced into aboard bed of David. Montgomery being top twenty. If you remember I got I got shamed into WHO and David Montgomery. Ba Top twenty running. But I vote against you know me. Yes I voted against you. Yeah we you and I you and I did it on Friday actually. Wow Oh wow nice well tone. I lost that one. Did you lose. If David Montgomery was a top twenty running back. I have no idea. I don't remember this board. Bet He was running back thirty four this week just missed well. Technically thickly technically with two more teams to play tonight. You're right Oh wait no wait now. That goes the other direction yet. Doesn't work that way. Yellen blocks role does is not matter to us right now that they'll be running back thirty-seven after Carson. Here's Rishaad penny gets gets lucky on a play it does matter though for for the for the opens the plane hard. They're playing really hard. Brian Tours. Trust that man but I'm just there are a number. I just want to make this one last point and then we can move on. It's unbelievable to me. The amount of other fantasy analysts that are taking victory laps on dumping on Caleb Lahj and you're like he was running back forty nine. I mean I mean it's unreal to me talking about the fact that I had Marcus Mariota outside my top twenty five quarterback this year. I know that one. They got a nice job. He's nailed it exactly. I mean it's hard I know I know I said don't draft. Eli Manning Yeah like like come on man like your Tonight I shot some fish in a barrel. Boom you just Miss Schuster three for forty four yesterday. Matthew Man Jude you no longer do no more than three catches and five of his past seven games. He's been held under seven point. Five fantasy points. Do you want to gyms sure sort of I don't know I'm just GONNA in a Boo Doodoo. benching him. You Benji just Miss Schuster benching Juju top ten in terms of ADP coming into the season wide receivers. He's wide receiver fifty five per game basis since week four. He's been held under seven point. Five fantasy points in three of the last four. Yeah he plays that Cleveland this week on a short week. I'm hanging tough with him. God boy he's been so brutal and the passing games brutal brutal. This look at their schedule at Cleveland at Cincinnati Cleveland Arizona. I would have to. I would actually love to hear from people that might actually fall all the steelers day-to-day squealers. Incredibly close. It did it excuse. Start Alison It feels like the formula right now on defense is let's make sure Thad we do everything in our power to not allowed you to be the passing game. And if you're going to get one down the field James Washington or Deontay Johnson's yeah we'll live with that because right now Jews but I think Doodoo for this week he will not be in my top thirty that much. It's hard to argue. I mean like it's your the the the reason why you would is because you remember what kind of talent this kid it has. I know that you you know. But I know like maybe neutralized they had been neutralized significantly. It's tough it's very tough and we'll talk more about where humiliation you know. We you do and we can do this tomorrow because I know we're running short time we should do. We should do all we can do it real quickly. No you want to do it. I was going to name game on. Dude you now can I mike. I think we'll do it tomorrow. All right well unless you WANNA cut some of these other topics which I'm happy to do but we're just running short on time we can do to. We just haven't prepared one for you all right. Well we'll one find a good name game tweet Veterans Day secrets girls so I will. I will heed your wishes. I appreciate that seeing how you worked for me. Thank you for leading the happen. I don't well do I work for you. I don't by the way. I don't think you want that because I don't think I'm a particularly good reflection on you. UH-HUH I like. I like if if a boss if some of a boss's self worth is you know what his employees do and produce and everything like that like. I don't think I'm particularly good reflection on you. I think you're great reflection on me matthew. Oh you're very sweet. Thank you very much look a lot alike. Okay wow well I thought he meant up by bald head. uh-huh myself when I look at you there. Joe Mix there yesterday at one. Hundred fourteen yards rushing against the ravens doesn't matter matthew or is this like the inverse junk time like they we're getting their butts kicked him when they actually got rushing yardage not passing yardage it matters and it matters for this reason. Okay so you've got banged up in this game. Yeah so that's helpful the rare you don't happen to. They actually ruled them out and they declared him doubtful to return the up and then they actually brought him back into the game right trending upwards baby. How's that for fantasy trend about the bangles tangles? Here's why it matters because you should immediately sell Joe Mixon for whatever you can get. Oh okay. That's what I'm saying. Hey listen. Thirty carries one hundred and fourteen yards ard seventeen fantasy points. He caught two balls for thirty seven yards. Joe Mixon's back maybe sell sell sell sell sell. I'm with if you can get anything. I mean anything in Virginia a value. Yeah if you've if you've been slogging through with Joe Mixing so far you have to feel encouraged. Does he have a rushing touchdown this year One I feel like he does. You might have one Thursday calls going to look that up. I know he has that short receiving touchdown right like he has one rushing touchdown impressive impress. But he's been he's been trying to think if there's been a bigger non injury related bust. Joe Mixon jujubes up there where I I think mixing has been worse than Juju though at least you can. I mean Judas had a- It'd be interesting to see I would think by the way. He has zero rushing touchdowns I bet leads the NFL NFL. In terms of rushing attempts without a rushing touchdown this year. I'm sure CALC and confirm that For a later time but I think it's the biggest bust. Yeah for sure gotTA BE GOTTA gotta be He. I mean he is Last one here Matthew is was the deals to von Deke's Stefan digs last night. Three three forty nine yards now. They won that game but look it is is wide receiver finishes over the past six games right fifty to one eight twelve eighty one and as of right now thirty nine and no Adam feeling in this game and so and they moved the ball effectively now like and by the way a lot of his production out of the production that led him to be wide receiver. Thirty nine heading into Monday night. Football was on a crazy catch. That was originally ruled incomplete and they had to review it and then it was. If he didn't uh-huh doesn't make an unbelievable catch on his back with one hand like it's even worse than it is and so it's super weird like look I mean but they they. They gave an end zone target last night. Like almost came down with it and you know it was just weird you know coward off. What are the odds that coward off catches two touchdowns and a and A to version two point conversion my worm teams have been? I'm sure you've played again. Yeah look at you go. We're we're all Irish twins heavyweight that with Adam schefter. Oh goodness well listen. Scottclark rolled me like a piece of dough like it. I had a horrible game. You you know every single guy on my team didn't show up Jalen Samuels Todd. Gurley like Stefan digs. None of those guys Evan. Ingram was out during waller. You know wasn't wasn't wasn't great either so all my guys didn't show up but it didn't matter Scottclark Scottclark me like he had. He had the ravens defense had mark he got to. Were you got more touchdowns from the Ravens Defense. And his tight end than my entire team had like I mean I had stefan digs. Just he's been ravaged by injuries right. He's got a very good not. He does but literally beat me. Like one. Seventy five to seventy like every single guy might deliver. What do you have anybody left tonight? No. I don't like I'm done. I mean it's just saying like you know Jason Myers could knock forty two field goals in lasting. Daniel has some notes from us but I need someone who follows Colorado State football something okay had Preston Williams BC Johnson and Michael Gal in the same receiving group at one time I scored the one hundred points a game. How did they how do they not win? More Games how is it not more aware of the fact that a Colorado State football team had three future. NFL Wide Receiver. Alright they hit the drop. ESPN radio breaking news. A little bit of news right now and feel network reports that Austin Hooper's GonNa miss some time he's actually have an MRI and his knee hooper who has been outstanding this year and we believe will be very rich man. I think you're saying it. If he does not receive the franchise tag. I think Austin Newport will sign the largest contract in NFL history for a tight end depending on whether he doesn't before or after George kills eventual extension with the four matters incapable reset the market. But Yeah I think Cooper is going to be super rich. He has got a knee issue. Matthew which could cause some time so there a couple of components here. Why don't we don't no like isn't a major knee issues in a minor? It's week eleven and I. I'm not suggesting that Austin Hooper's not competitive enough to not want to be out there but you might be you think for the future a little bit here if you're awesome hooper. Let's say it's a four week injury. Just say this right. Get you fifteen like you're gonNA say like yeah. I'll be back week. Sixteen seventeen if your team is something like four. Ten loss season for the Atlanta Falcons to your point. He's going to be a free agent. Why wouldn't you wouldn't blame the player for wanting to be wanted us be safe? Play it safe and baton basis too easy on these nothing. So it's a significant injury in the world of fantasy football. Not just only for the Falcons and they're passing attack but four fantasy football Y- you downgrade Matt Ryan a little bit here. Doesn't feel like there's anyone on the Falcons immediately feel good about going out and picking up no player immediately that comes to mind from the in-house options for Atlanta. So let's look at some of the names outside and some of these names already on the Waiver Column Four. ESPN DOT COM. That'll be out later on today. And you right right. You're right free agent fines. Why don't you go ahead you're Oj? How're we talked about my number one ad of the week? I think if I had to pick one up amongst hide and trying to think who I had as has number of Jack Doyle it's got I believe six straight games with at least three catches so not a ton of upside there doyle but the consistency is worth noting. We talked about Vance McDonald. He's available fifty five Sees we talked about. OJ Howard available in about fifty five percent of leagues bans McDonald. Also available in fifty five percent percent of leaks had a Jack Doyle. Seeing on the screen is a forty forty forty eight percent available as of this morning was forty five point four percent so maybe things have changed with rolling waivers or something. There's up to fifty one point three percent roster. That's weird. I checked it. This morning is at forty five percent. I'll take him off the waiver wire then there any event Coward off. We talked about him. Matthew Sixty four percent available Mike Seki available in eighty seven percent of leagues. No obvious great options here. Math there is no great tight option but certainly something to consider because who has been the rock star of your team. If you play fantasy football I'll give you one guy that coming that by the way it's been really good and I don't know the stats up the top. My but we talked about him on fantasy football now. and that's Noah fant who has fan has gotten since Emmanuel Sanders has been traded. The forty niners fan has actually had a tremendous tremendous amount of a really nice target. Share routes run for the Denver Broncos. So Noah Fan. I think becomes kind of interesting. If you're sort of you know Searching down there. Darren fells of the Houston. Texans who's available mathematics on a league. He's been he seems to have really kind of separated himself from Jordan. eakins there in in Houston Texans. Obviously they're off a bye there at the There's the ravens however maybe Chris Herndon who came back with you've limited yesterday so limited. I wonder if that one might be a few more weeks. The only the only reason I mentioned herndon. They play the redskins this week. I but I if he's he's like a barely even a part time. It's hard to have any major investment in right and then of course you know. Well I was GONNA SAY DA DA Scott but they're playing the the Patriots you don't love because he's a starter too so yeah exactly. We'll get into it more because I imagine we'll have some updates later on today on the exact time line for Austin Austin Hooper who has been legitimate stud so far this season and Speaking of the Atlanta Falcons by the way this came actually fantasy life. APP alerted to me this about forty five minutes ago so policies that I miss this. I put my phone down during the show but devante freeman initially diagnosed with foot. Spring source said and I'll have an MRI today to determine the extent stan of it so We'll find out what the results from. NFL Network so we will. We will see what happens with devante Freeman the results that emory so we should know the status of him at at least heading into waivers. Bad luck for the Falcons continues good thing. They got that win yesterday to help. Change a tenor of their season. We're back tomorrow with the latest on injury updates. Recap of the much anticipated San Francisco. Seattle game tonight. We've got more stuff here doing. 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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 173 Looking Back to Pre 2018 (2-26-2019)

GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast

46:35 min | 1 year ago

GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 173 Looking Back to Pre 2018 (2-26-2019)

"Golden State media concepts fantasy football podcast is your one stop shop for fantasy football news and advice has decided who to draft on first round cowing Gaga, and how to of your team got you covered. Additionally, Ziona Steve leaks. He on Lee ide-, deep Ely even daily fed to see football shawna's as we break down all the question of fantasy football. It's the Golden State media concepts fantasy football podcasts. Hello. And welcome to the GMC fantasy football podcast. Brought to you by the GMC podcast. I'm your host. Jeff bell off got a good bit to talk about today. It's going to be present things because we're still waiting on the beginning of the March thirteenth free agency market to open in find out and all that good stuff where each person will find a new home in trades and nine and then we can predict how each guy will do for this next season. But we're going to go back in time today to the beginning of the twenty eight thousand season, and I have things forty news dot com. Their rankings for each position in for this whole show. We're going to go buy those rankings. We're gonna just go. Let's just go top ten's. He go more from there. And just see how right or how very wrong they were. And I'm kind of excited about this. But of course, we'll start off right with the quarterback. This is. The rankings based on standard non are leagues was six point passing touchdowns. So this is for the for the quarterback said it, so this is like just pure just going off of two sticks. And all that good stuff. And just what do they bring to the table? Number one. It's kind of easy one to go on those Aaron Rodgers they say routers was having another top notch fantasy season in twenty seventeen before suffering a broken collarbone against the Vikings in week six he returned a week fifteen against the Panthers. But he clearly wasn't one hundred percent sites despite throwing for two hundred ninety yards and three touchdowns and three interceptions in the fivefold. Grajales five games are played before the entry. He total thirteen hundred six seven yards and thirteen touchdowns three interceptions. If you were to extr if you were to look at those numbers in express them out to the entire season. You could be roughly getting around four hundred thirty forty four thousand three hundred seventy five yards in around forty two touchdowns in ten picks that has a topnotch quarterback season for sure. And provided that he can stay healthy. He should be the best quarterback in twenty eight team. This is by sporting, news dot com. And as we all know that wasn't really the case mate. He will. He was healthy. But just in general the Packers when his bad like there really is. No, excuse me. How bad they were. Like, I can't explain like, this was just I I don't know if I've considered that like a bust of a pick of you picked him high. But. Again, he was not the best quarterback this year by any means. I don't think he was in the in any category in like that would say, oh, yeah. He's the best at that from last face-off last season alone. So I would definitely say that rankings. All ready wrong. Doing this start off. Great star. Awesome. Number two. Russell wilson. And with the lackluster running back corps. He had and the shy you can say wide receiving corps. Yes, they made the playoffs. But it wasn't like Russell's was having any sign of an MVP like year. This was a struggle for him. They barely got into the playoffs. And honestly looking into this next season. Would I draft him in my quarterback cl- for my quarter? But one of my quarterbacks, I would honestly consider him more of a backup right now than starter. Because I say that I know the times crazy because. He doesn't have a high scoring offense. A team around him. He doesn't have a team that gives them a lot of points in the in the fantasy football department. So I would be hesitant to pick him to be honest for going into this next season Hyun up. One of my top choices for quarterback, regardless where my positioning is. If I waited like the final draft pick like the final round of the second around. Then maybe I if I needed a quarterback if I needed a backup. I would go for Russell Wilson. But in general, I would not do that. I would not choose him. I would kinda not. And I have my doubts by Iraj is. Well, but Russell Wilson. I am a major doubts with not base. His he has the ability to great things. I'm not saying the won't. But he just doesn't have the talent around him do. Well. That the town around him to really explode in like a offseason type deal. Or not odds if he's not offseason, I told that's wrong. I meant more along the lines of just a MVP caliber season, statistic wise. That's that's how I see it. But again, that's just my prediction on this whole thing. And if you pick I'm not saying, that's like the worst choice ever. I'm not even a bad choice. I'm just saying he won't give you the points here expecting that just by tradition on that just based off just the team around him is supporting cast is not as good as most. Most other quarterbacks in the NFL. So number three with he kind of had okay season overall. But he didn't win the Super Bowl. Number three on these rankings is Tom Brady now the headed okay year, nothing to Vic tackler in this typical department. But honestly, he's one of those guys I would never pick in the fantasy football world mainly because he is I see him more as a better and much more come up in the clutch type of situation in the AUSSIE in the postseason rather than the regular season. If you pick 'em the regular season, that's a bad show. I'm saying the gap pretty decent choice overall. But. He's not gonna lake overwhelming with points. That's my main thing there. He's not going to give you those forty point games at some people could do with five touchdowns six hundred yards. Just obviously example because there is no six on. No one's ever thrown for six hundred yards. But regardless it's one of those things where you're looking at it and going, you know, what based off the team around him. Just like Russell Wilson. I don't think he can lead my team to victory in the fantasy football world. That's my honestly take on it. But moving on pass Tom Brady got number four. This is a guy really was high on Shawn Watson. In high on this guy for one reason for one main crucial reason, and that is Andrea Hopkins the under Hopkins top three wide receiver the NFL by far. I can even I have argued even put them number one. Because the base of the talent and the how he catches the ball. And how he is runs his routes excellently he has a little bit of feed tool, but that's on his strong suit is strong suit just going up there and getting the ball regardless where it's thrown he's a very athletic guide you Andre options is so I will definitely definitely think about driving high. If I'm in the low picks at the end of the second round or or one of the high like see it works differently for most leads. I feel like some people do snake way where you go the first draft pick until the sixteenth drivers last traffic, and then they get the first pick in the second round. And then they go the other way, but also seen people just draft the big little guy, whatever and. It goes back to the original one pick for the next pick. So it's kind of like the regular NFL draft. But I'm not sure which one we will be going for. But I think the Andrea Hawkins was definitely be a top one to round pick in the draft. And if you had yonder, and if you had Shawn Watson to Dion dropkin as you receiver core back duo, you could blow up some point to get some big numbers and get some wins for your team because that duo is one of the deadliest in the NFL and you saw it from last season and the previous for Watson toys ACL. He has they both have nothing but spot lights ahead of them in a huge like future duo, like a pain, Manny, Marvin Harrison type duo type of thing going. So I think that's what this will lead to. And I'm really looking forward to seeing how all this process processes out. But moving onto number four. I'm sorry. Number five four is number five Cam Newton. And we all know came arm was basically shot and just was not working in any way, shape or form. He was definitely struggling to throw the football throw a deep, and it was one of these moments where he just needed to sit out you just needed a break, mentally and physically. And so it looks like to me the better idea is to leave him out for the next season is where rather season afterwards. But if that's the thing about if they play him too soon, he could injure that arm even more and not be able to play again, you know, I think for him. It's a best place to really be able to heal properly like if he gets shot. In the regular season continue to play even with his shoulder injury. He has I have a bad feeling. He's gonna make it worse. So my recommendation if here just I would not drop them at all because he might not play this season. So obviously those rings wrong about him. But of course, we didn't know that the Senate shoulder injury. So it's one of those key factors where just injuries just bad luck. Especially with your fantasy football teams. We sometimes your best players. Get injured you first picks get injured. And then you're like, what am I gonna do? No, nothing. So that's how I see. Those are the top five four quarterbacks. We are going to take a break when we come back. We'll be talking about the running backs in the top five there. We right back right after this. Are you looking for the very best NFL and college football podcast, then checkout GSM, see football podcast. Get the latest football move both on and off the field from the NFL draft to treats to the rumor mill to the NFL combines they got you covered. That's GSM podcast com. Backslash footfall dash podcasts. Get updates. I'm college game day, insights and much much more. It's football talk. The way you want it this show, sleeps and breathes football. Don't forget to like on Facebook and follow them on Twitter. Visit. Yes, MC podcasts dot com. For more info. Welcome back empty fantasy. Still gas is finish your top five rankings before the twenty thousand season for the quarterbacks. Now, we're moving onto the running backs. It's fun. We're having fun. We're having so much fun. I'm having fun at least so as this loads because thank you internet. I'm just before we look at this. I'm just getting a plea guess living on bills newbie number one in boy was that a mistake. And he's not number one. That's actually quite surprising before the twentieth season. Number one was is equal Elliott. And then I kind of agree with this. He had a pretty solid season all things considered. He had a really good. She's well top receiver running backs and league. And you know, he's just a very reliable guys. All he's very reliable to get the job done. He's the key focal point in their offense in Dallas. And you know, he's I can definitely seem as number one pick in some fantasy football drafts him, Sean sake on Berkeley, and so on and so forth. But definitely a I usually only see him ever one. But I get it. I get why he's number one on this list. Because of the fact that he's a special running back for the Cowboys and just it just works. Just works for me. Number two is the head of potential run for MVP was Todd Gurley. He had a pretty good. Twenty seventeen season as posted double digit fantasy points in all but one game, which is pretty darn incredible. Where that's guy you can absolutely one hundred percent rely on. And he even got some he was even in this. And then this rakings right because he was considered in the MVP at candidate in this in this twenty eighteen season with the Rams so he had a pretty stellar season overall. And he knows how to get the job done, obviously, he didn't play in the Super Bowl. But I think more we're getting more and more news as the days progress that he was a lot more hurt than we originally than they wanted us to believe at least and with that. I do say that. It's going to be the factor of. What when to use like is it still safety use him going into this season? Even this injuries at even more serious than where we're thinking. Or is he going to be back hundred percent by the end of nex by the beginning of this season? I think he'll be healthy by the beginning of this season. But I've seen crazier things happen. So we'll see how everything turns out. But definitely a concern for me. If I am an owner of a fantasy football league, and I have a high pick and I could get Todd Gurley and poor number three's is David Johnson. Talk about just falling off the face of the earth. Man, I know injuries plagued him and all this other things. But it's one of those instances where he had so much potential to be a top five running back in the league for years to come. He had that what amazing season where everyone started picking us the number one pick and all this kind of things, but he just didn't turn out the way thought he was he was he was too injury prone. He was too. I wouldn't say I think I think I was too worried about him just missing a lot of games and all this other things. So it wasn't the risk. I was willing to take. If I was good. It was I was gonna if I was considering drafting him. I wasn't every considering drafting my only to be honest with you. But I was in the I was in the sense of mainly. Oh, he's just he's having an off year. He can delete outs back. And then we can look at them for a top pick next year that didn't happen. So I see this more long lines of just the. The era. I guess you can say of David Johnson is over the air of him dominating fantasy football talk. And remember that commercial where the guys talking about who do you like I forget, what was like like I just saying like who you get who do you want in in the in the fantasy football draft near the big board and everything and he was saying something personal and all this, and they were like, no we mean the fantasy board and they it was a commercial. You can call anything else. But he goes, David Johnson. They all go you David David Johnson. But if you big Johnson, the first pick now people would laugh at you because it's not one of if it sounds saquon Barkley, and it's Ziegler Elliott, then it's not time girly healthy, then who in God's greener there, you get a pig. If you're not if you're gonna miss those three because those who you're absolutely deadly in mazing impressive. So just seeing that in general really shows that some people just really look at some pillars. Ready for fantasy football things fun thing to do. And but we since we do fantasy football take this very seriously. We want you to win money. We want you to show funnier friends, we want all all the we want you get the recognition and thank us for it. So that's why we do this. So my choice for the ranked top them or three David Johnson. I will say without sir with utmost certainty avoid him for next season as well. Because I got a bad feeling. He's not gonna come back to his form where he was at one point. So that's just how I see it. I can I hope I'm wrong because I hope for the best of David Johnson. I really do on the cardinals, and you can only you can only do so much. So. Just have to say that. I hope the bathroom, but right now, I'm just going to avoid him in my Finnish football rankings cheese. Went your f-. You name it. I'm laurie. So moving on now to number four. We have. Well, the thing is by now, we should have had like shake on Barclay, honest. But since this was him. I don't think we're the go up to the top ten, but we're gonna stay with the five, but number nine was Berkeley. And it's funny because now he's arguing to be the number one pick selected most fantasy drafts rightfully so. Because he had a fantastic year over two thousand scrimmage yards really speaks for itself. And so with that I do say that number nine is high for rookie. Absolutely. But this was more than just a rookie. He's a special person. He's a special. He's a special breed of talent of athlete. And so with that I do say. He deserves to be the number one pick. Now, he deserves to be up there in the top three. At least any if he's not I'll be shocked by any means. But if I had to pay your top three, it would definitely be Elliott up there, and as well as girly and Barclay those we might top three. So that's that's how I would see it. At least in this circumstance is going from learning from what happened this year going into next year. And of course, how just dominant he was you know, with with how bad she Berkeley was or how bad partly how bad the giants were offensively. Besides. Barkley was truly incredible. How he carried that team? So he is going to the main focus, but if he's not the main focus on there's something wrong in New York. Definitely they're just being ignorant or something. But overall, you gotta look at the facts that they're going to go for him. They're going to make sure that he gets the ball. They're gonna ride him to till he's like broken down. Basically. It's a lot like Terrell Davis with the Broncos. They wrote like they even say it in the interviews have during that time is where like we talked to Shannon Sharpe or something like that. They said forgot to win the Super Bowl. We gotta right trill. Davis. So how they got to build this team. The giants team is not build it around passing. They got to they got to build it around saquon Barkley. And as for Todd Gurley and his ranking, according to CBS sports. The Rams have the second easiest schedule for twenty nineteen. So. Todd gurley. My move up to number one due to the strength of schedule. He's got going for him at the end of this getting of this season. If they had the second easiest schedule, you might be the first guy taken in the draft just based off that alone. And the talent he has just it'll be too much. But again. This rank the schedule really matter overall when you're looking into like a postseason perform a postseason berth anything like that. We'll see how that goes. But anyways, that's just how those are like, but that's why Berkeley at number nine from twenty teen beginning to eighteen to now is just a funny instance. And now you're looking at any he's clearly a number top three. As for number four Levy on bell. And. Can the guy on sports things? This morning news. You're saying this. Few players are as quote bankable as him both in PR in standard leagues. So he wasn't very bankable this year because he plays single down because he held out. But due to the fact that he is going into this season as a free agent and get the most likely going to get the money. He wants. I will definitely say that. Levy on bell definitely be a top pick in the draft this year. But I guess it also depends on where he will end up in the fridge into permanent. But where he ends up. I'm assuming he's going to be looked at as a major focal point in that offense. He has to be. He puts a team over the time into a civil contender. He could be a team that just in the middle of rebuilding things can fast for the rebuilding period with him or something of that of that nature. But on tireless your what they're really going for. So we'll see who really is gonna push warm who's not gonna push form. But regardless of that, I do say that levian Bill even with him being gone for a good year. Is still valuable asset in your draft class? That's just how I see it. And with that we are at number five, which is Elvis chimera. And you know, he had Marvin Ingram this season. And how they did was great. But if if I'm Marv not Marvin Inger marking excuse me, if he's gone in free agency, which is probably somebody else compares get more carries. Get more opportunities is get more points in theory. Because of he's not gonna have another talented running back by signing. He's going to be dealing running back. He's going to be the number one running back. He's giving the number two running back. He's gonna be both. Combine now. So with that. He's definitely get more touches. And I think with that comes more yards, obviously. And I think more touchdowns, and I think a better stat line than most would leave. So if you end up with Kamera in like the late first round, I think that's a bass of steel or you try to get him in the fifth pick you could probably sell for that. But honestly, it's good to be hard. But fortunately, there's girly and there's Barkley, and there's Ezekiel Elliott in front of you. But if I had to move I would move up an extra spot honestly to move them to number four because of the Livia bill's been out for a whole season. So he's going to be quote, unquote, rusty, but yeah, I I would have if I was the top five say on the fifth overall pick in if I had to choose an I make may my top four like who would be available for me. They're tough up fuel. One would be Barclay to be Elliott. Three would be girly four would be chimera in five. I I don't know if I would put bell up there yet. I had to see where he goes I, but if I had pick a number five type of thing a number five kind of player, I would probably look at more a mixed back like a Sony Michelle even that early or even job Nick Chubb is definitely one that I would even I forgot about Nick because he's not on this list. He's. Yeah. If you wanna hear some crazy. He's not even on the like rankings list. I am looking at this thinks says sports twenty news dot com. Pain Barbara's up here. I see C J Anderson when he was on the news on a Carolina. I see do John's junior. You remember him? Like he wasn't really supposed to play. If at all and seeing all this definitely really shows. How talented he was going into this see how going into this next season. And definitely a powerhouse to look at as a top five pick in the draft. So recap my top five running. My picks are definitely Barclay. Girly elliott. Chimera and last finale st- Chubb, but we are going to take a short break. Once again when we come back. We'll be talking about the wide receivers of this previous twenty team rakings and seeing how they do for next year. We right on that when we return. Check out the show that's built on the from the UFC two extreme cage biting they got the fights covered. Check out the GSM. See M a podcast get the latest news on past or upcoming fights. Join us as we've talked to in about some of the biggest names in m e past president future. When it's the fight game. There's just one show to check out GMC podcast dot com. Backslash M E dash podcast. Don't forget to leg. Among Facebook could follow them on Twitter. Visit GS MC podcasts dot com. For more info. Welcome back. Everyone GS M C fantasy full podcast. We just finished running backs. Now, let's go to wide receivers. This is actually one of those entertaining ones because there is a couple that really didn't vertu be up that maybe didn't maybe didn't wrong. But. Overachieved and underachieved, obviously. But one of the main ones I went home for good into like number one through five in the sporting, news dot com rankings is Teri kills number ten. I would put him in the top five right now. Maybe because you add onto Patrick Mahomes and how. He started out. Big question, aren't because people didn't know he was starting basically rookie style. He was like no one knew really how he was gonna come from Texas Tech to a year off as a backup tug Smith in two. Now what he is fifty touchdown passes number one quarterback in the NFL right now at this time. So with that I do want to say that Terry kill is one of my favorite choices for my wide receiver choices because I picked him in some. Daily fantasy stuff and in my main league, and he came in clutch for me multiple times. So I've always liked him personally. And we'll since he's which Tim in. What's his face him homes? Started out I've been liking them a lot. So definitely one of my main top choices for next season. If you're gonna pick someone you're definitely I would definitely be recommending Terry Hill as one of your key receivers. Because of the fact, yes, he is a threat speed guy. But Mahomes loves throw to him Mahomes loves that guy, they have a connection there. So that's why I like him as a huge addition to your fancy team. I think you'll be one of those key guys. I really comes in club for you. When the time comes but anyways moving onto the actual top five. We got here. Number one. I think was obvious by that's by that previous year was in Tony around. He had a pretty good season overall. But he didn't play like seventeen. There's always some question marks about him in his relationship with the Pittsburgh Steelers. And there's always issues with that. So he didn't he didn't bring up to be the number one. He wasn't like hidden. She didn't show up as the number one. I guess you can say you're didn't you know? Perform, but you still top five wide receiver without question. And whatever team he goes to is get either rise him up and draft stock to still the number one pick like for wide receiver in category. Or it's going to drop them down based off what team he goes to because it's faced off the quarterback. It's based off the offensive scheme. It's based off the how good the running back is because they're running back thinking more touches, and he will see all coming down to that kind of situation and doubtfulness when it comes down to these trade situations because he has no choice. He has no choice award to go. He's gonna get traded regardless. And where he goes. Is going to be based on how much are they gonna use him? So that's how I see Antonio Brown going. But honestly, I see this moral on the lines of he's gotta be still one of the top. He's going be the first either first or second wide receiver taken in the draft fantasy draft that is and where he goes it sounds like he's not going to be going in the AFC north. That's impossible. It sounds like he's not going to the patriots. I think that was pretty clear by the Steelers organization. So seems like multiple NFC teams are basically chomping at the bit to get him. I think that's gonna be their best option for sure. So that's how I see in Tokyo Brown going for next season. But Gore's, of course, this is a procreate ranking him number one number two Julio Jones. With. He was he did the best. He could keep them. Throw a touchdown heating in a touchdown. Catch like wake like ten or six or so it was a long period of time where you did not actually catch a touchdown pass. But he did always come in with multiple hundred yard receiving games. Always was always the main go to Matt Ryan. But you know with the low with the discipline of the season overall, he didn't perform as best as he could. But now since he's since they have an old offense coin into coming back where they've had success with him in the past with Matt Ryan, I think this is a time where he's going to really come out of come out and be the guy again. And if he's one of those guys that gets picked over Tony Brown that make sense see last year like this is the twenty thousand rankings last year, which makes sense he was so high ranked, but again, he was kind of like. Brown where there were still feels like to me, they're still a lot to be desired. I could be wrong on that. I could totally be run. But they always did great no doubt about it. But I feel like they could have done more because that's kind of players there. They could've done way more. And so with that I will add onto the fact that this season with an old. With an old offense. Aucoin ater returning, basically. This should be a good news for both Matt Ryan and Julio Jones and even at a Calvin really to that to that whole falcons team. So honestly look at those falcon wide receiver core. And look at my Ryan potential pickup for this year's draft. And see what you can do with that. Definitely a serious contender for breakout performances in Atlanta Falcons squad. Will they actually win games? That's to be determined. But I still feel like the offense is king. Still get the job done relatively relatively the same as they did during Matt Ryan MVP or I'm not saying Matt Ryan's get again MVP award. But I'll say he'll be having a good season a L could fantasy football season at least moving onto number three. Now. We got another wide receiver in might be traded at the end of the season Oto Beckham junior. And of course, he didn't have the best year, and it was kind of because of one particular person. And that was just quarterback. Eli manning ano- will actually it's actually two players to two guys on that team. That really limited his potential limited his pointing for your team, and that was saquon Barkley and ally manning illuminating just because he can't really throw the ball anymore. It's kinda done in that circumstance to me at least. And then you look at Barclay who had a completely breakout year. Excellent your overall. And so I see that as just that's just the bad not bad luck for him. But just how it good Barkley. Was. You just had a limit ODA Beckham junior's touches because of how good. Barkley was in. You gotta give him more touches. It was just I was just how it went. That was just how it went. So that's how I see it. But again, it seems to me that both into Neo Brown and Odell Beckham junior will be traded by the end of this by the beginning next season. And so this is going to be a very interesting for sure when March thirteenth when that first begins the season begins, and you're trading your signed free agent. It's a very very interesting situation without question just do the facts that we really don't know where these guys will go and where their potential on these teams, and of course, oddly, not the forty Niners are both in talks with both into new Brown, and whatever cheating when you're talking about potential landing spots, and there's always other landings watts to but again with college Shanahan as head coach offense coordinator, I mean that might be the best fit for him to really get it done which. Garoppolo as well. I'm just saying that just an example. But again, it's one of these things where you're looking at it and seeing these two guys are get a have differences in. There. Let's say their draft stock when it comes down to either there were they're trading spot is where they're gonna land where they're gonna end up. But I'm actually looking forward to see whether he end up it's going to be. That's why low about the NFL off season is second to none to any other offseason in the in the world of sports because so obviously, we see basketball is up there to no doubt about it. But we obviously see like. The MLB and how slow that's going. And we're looking at the NFL. It's we're not even there yet. And it's already picking up pace. You know what I mean? So I think it's pretty great all things considered. So I'm kind of looking forward to it. And I'm honestly like the main questions for me is for fantasy football wise where are the best possible swats for Antonio Brown in OPEC? And and where were they end up? Are they still get to be the top five wide receiver the NFL? Are they still going to be that kind of level because? Just like weapon with Elliot to Barclay. A lot of things can happen here. And with that, I add, you know, maybe you gotta find a team with the better quarterback in a worse. Running back. That's just how I can see it. And that might that's obviously the best situation for them. But again, it's one of these moments in where they do not have an option wherever they traded to. That's where they're going to be ending up. But again, they're going to have a lot of takers. Definitely when it comes down to it. But we're gonna take another short break. And when we come back we're gonna finish up the day with tight ends because those are fun, and there's actually a big number of tight ends are actually really hitting a high point in their career. So we'll definitely check that out when we return. Out this show built around the women of from the UFC to the extreme cage fighting we got the fights cover the Golden State media concepts women's EMMY made podcast. The latest news of choline flights discussions previous matches join us as we talked to in about the biggest names women's mixed. Martial arts past present and future when it's the women's game. You know to listen to the Golden State media concepts women's MMA podcast. Welcome back to the TSMC fantasy podcast finish up today with tight ends. And with this. I wanna talk about how tight ends up becoming a more crucial part of fantasy football now. Just because of how vocal point they are in the offense. So definitely I would say pick a titan ahead of quarterback nowadays to be honest with you, I think they're very valuable in the long run. But. I'll just rain the top four top five out of steam off the top five right quick. Obviously number one is Travis. Kelsey, number two. This is rob gronkowski very disappointing year last year, he's probably gonna retire. But I would avoid him at all costs. If he is playing next year. He's just not the same guide number three's urge who had a pretty stellar season. Had a lot of had led league lead the titans and receptions, if I'm not mistaken and then number four is Jimmy Graham. Yeah. Maybe we should've told them that errors not really like throwing two tight ends. He's not really tied thrower. And then shockingly number five. Well, maybe not number them. Not shocking. Actually, yet is shocking. Evans grim for the giants. Number five. And obviously, you're you're missing very key factor that broke the record for receiving yards by titan in a season and that is George kit. And this is of course, this is his off year. This is actress rookie season he had a pretty solid sees all things considered to. So there was some talk about software, slump dot dot dot, which makes sense in theory. But then you're also looking at the facts of well he had the best season receiving yards of any titan in NFL history. So he was a number ten on this list. And honestly if you. Put them in number two. So you put Charles Kelsey number one put kill number two and number three that would make sense to me or you put hurts number two in kiddle number three. But. Georgia has has I think has become an elite tight end in the NFL. And he is a major factor when it comes down to picking a tight end to get points for your team. I think he's gonna be huge addition. Whenever team me goes to fantasy football was so definitely take a look at him. But of course, then the Travis Kelsey is probably the first tied and taken. And then there's also. Attacker twos. Just Carson Wentz coming back. Carson Wentz loves loves throwing to his tight end zone as it's and that's where they get this huge relationship involved. And that's why if Carson Wentz is the guy who if they say he is the guy, and he's going to be the guy, and he's done all this other things with Erz urges a big huge commodity because he's go to for the starting quarterback. I mean, that's that's a huge factor. I mean during his MVP season Carson Wentz where he got injured. I mean jacker was guy. And so you can only be N B caliber, we'd be favorite if you're receivers catching the ball and Zakar it's caught a lot of balls, and he lied he and for a lot of yards and really really came in clutch for that team in their Super Bowl run. So overall Zakar is definitely a guy. You wanna look at as a major a major help in the points of. Arment when you're picking a Tida, especially if Carson Wentz is returning to the starting job. And of course, there is the Nick full San where he's going to end up his looks like he's going to be traded or franchise tag and traded it, it's it's a complicated situation. We'll see all that ends up. But then but looking at others like Eric Brin? He's not really listened very high on this because he struggled with Detroit. All teams considered if I can find him Jesus actually really way down here. Wow. Okay. Wow. Wow. Number twenty twenty one twenty two twenty three twenty four twenty five twenty six. He's twenty six on this by sporting, news dot com. The fantasy football department before the twenty eighteen season any had double digit touchdowns. So definitely Angela throwing him the ball. And this was a great year fragile comeback player of the year award. And with that Angela coming in healthy and Eric Ron returning. Definitely definitely definitely a guy. You would take early one of the top. He's definitely top for for me. It's the four best tight ends in the NFL right out to me in of course, fantasy football wise are. Travis kelsey. Zacher? It's George kiddle in Eric run. Those are the four you can add maybe Jerry cook to five. It's kind of touch is not really alike. There's still any walkers of really good time. But he was out for the season with an injury. So it's it's not really a lot of other options. You can put at the top at number five, but those four the most crucial to their offenses. 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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 280: Glorious Draft Haul, Why Not to Listen to the Consensus, Top WRs

GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast

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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 280: Glorious Draft Haul, Why Not to Listen to the Consensus, Top WRs

"Golden state media concepts fantasy football podcast is your one stop shop for fantasy football news and advice deciding who to draft first round cowing Gaga and how a lot of your team got you covered additionally dynasty deletes he. Arlene? IDP. Daily Fantasy Football League Joanna's we breakdown down all the questions of fantasy football. It's the golden state media concepts, fantasy football podcast. Welcome into the GSM see fantasy football progress brought to you by the G.. M.. C. podcast network I'm your host Emmett Wyman is August twenty. First we are slowly slowly approaching. We want guys that means it strategies. Strategies and we'RE GONNA get into my drafted I completed the other night One of my leagues I was considering going on periscope on. Mud The social media page GSM for those that don't know G S MC underscore F- football or be F- football that's only to it but you get the point look that up on twitter make sure you follow that page if you haven't already but I was thinking of going live on air doing the draft as you know as we go along I, didn't I just wasn't gonNA work out the nobody can see. Who I was picking or you know who is who is getting picked? So it's just GONNA be me talking to arouse anybody wanted to see but as far as the draft I thought my drift went excellent I will get into that at the second segment. Later on we're going to break down some receivers today I really want to. Get the receiver group finished and then we'll get into tight ends on Tuesday a lot at least two weeks away guys. Two weeks away. So this this is just flying mess. It's going to be even more of a mess come September games actually start but. Jeez I mean, this is flying I can't believe I mean it was literally marched yesterday when this whole pandemic started, and now we're already were badly hit September. We're literally at September and when it September. There's two things that come to mind that is school semester in football and you know It's just the new change in season I. Guess You could say. But as far as you know news around the League, we're going to break that down real quick how `bout how `bout if you've been following the social media page which I know not allowed, you are said that already but list you've gotta follow the pace because there's some stuff that we talk about on the episode that tweet on twitter. And one of those things is Dez Bryant. Dez Bryant men number eighty eight one of my favorite players to ever suit up for the Dallas Cowboys I. Love Him I love his energy I. Love. Is Way he goes up to the football. But they would does is those days are behind him and that same bursts that same athleticism as saying, go up go get it factor that he had in two thousand fourteen is just not here anymore so Rarely. If he were designed with the team, his impact is very minimal, very minimal. I don't think he's GonNa Produce Anything Special Teams he's not going to do so if you can't do special teams, you're basically useless as a backup and that's what he is. He's not really started for any team in league unless there's a bunch of injuries but. If you're. GonNa sign him. You're pretty much GONNA ask stardom. And you can't use them on special teams 'cause he's not that good. He's thirty years old he's not what it used to be. So you're pretty much your handicapped if he signed him. So that's why nobody signing him. That's why the ULTIMO Ravens decided to pass on him unfortunately, which I totally saw coming I mean. I was really I was really open that they would bullet around him. Just for the fun of it you know why not bring him in a word as they were looking at Antonio Brown to me I've said this before Tonio Brown's careers over a he's never play again. No no team is going to bring him into their locker room. The only team that I can see is Tampa because the top brady, Tom Brady. Knows that Antonio Brown is really good player and he knows that he helped team. So he is campaigning for him pretty much. I would say on a daily basis if I had to guess because he saw Antonio Brown for those ten or so days he was in New England and said, wow, what a great player I need that guy on my team and he obviously Bell Jack was going to put up with him Bruce Arians he might because he's you know the chill players coach but Bruce knows Antonio. So the fact Bruce knows them basely's a like he's not going to bring him. He knows everything about knows either head case he knows how He's worked with him for over five years Pittsburgh so he doesn't need to know anything more doesn't want to deal with him. So that's why his over but I think does is going to be following the same path, but does is not. His career passes a lot different. He didn't really have all these. Just. You know big time. Investigations. Assaults in All this criminal activity pendant around his name as number. Add that. I. Mean. There is the incident where you know they said, he slapped mother back in two thousand ten or whatever the heck that was. But aside from that Ame-, he hasn't. He hasn't been in an criminal spotlight. That's why teams are still curious about him the saw I mean obviously the saint sign of two years ago. But he blew his knee out which really sucked are actually gillies and that's even worse Achilles at its the Achilles, heel? Yes. Why call it that it's really you're I, mean I'm not a doctor packages tell you from being an athlete myself that if you don't if you're Kelly's isn't right, then you can't run right and if you can't run right and you played receiver than you're useless so. As. He just never gonNA. Have that same speed that same knack in that same. Youthfulness they had to his game before So really it's really disappointment I. Hope. He gets one more shot I. Really WanNa see him back I n does not going to be the cowboys by really do WanNa see eighty eight back on the field for some team I was hoping it's false markets really good team a really good quarterback but. The only thing. The only hope you have for desert getting on team or I hope I should say is. Something similar happened with the Eagles where they just have fifteen thousand receivers get injured Nagata go brandon a guy but I mean, not eagles are not going to bring as Brian flip out happen but. Just, some some scenario like that where everybody gets hurt and you gotta go brain dead back Meteo reminds me to Yo was trying to get back in a game for a minute. Like he was just campaigning to get his way back in the League in, you know he was almost forty years old but it's still light man like that guy was in shaping he could still play as all faint player. and he didn't he tried a couple teams brought him in for workouts Seattle Brian for workout sign up for a couple days got rid of them. But it was it was interesting to see him and it was awesome CDs. But unfortunately, I think the dream is over for desert but I really wanted to go fact is something we've been. Added some jokes with social media. Because that's where does is really popular. Twitter does follow Dez on twitter. You guys need to start doing it but. Let's move onto out before we get into. Something about Cam. Why don't we just take a couple of minutes breakdown hard nuts episode to. Me? Oh. My Jesus. It's something that you got to really see the they really try to portray players, personalities and. What they do off the field wizard to nasty like Blah Blah Blah Blah Emmy saw the first episode hobby saw Jalen Ramsey. You know getting all feisty about. The media ask him about his contract he storms out the room which I I get. You know that's not as money I mean someone's personal money situation. You don't ask them about their regardless of even if that information is public so I kinda understand why he would do that but I mean jared Goff my God is this guy. Like this year franchise quarterback I, mean this the mini golf saying? Some Guy, the mini golf thing where you know sitting there with his buddies but but but the scene is personality I mean, this is not this guy does not scream later he does not scream franchise quarterback that guy is going to carry the team put him on a Balmy give me a break i. mean the reason I. Don't like Jared Goff and I've said this before is he's too soft. There's no other way to say he's tissue paper when he gets hit. IS MORALITY GOES DOWN Okay you see there's other quarterbacks. That's not the case when you look at Dak Prescott when he gets sacked. Brushed it off like nothing happened. When Ben Rothlisberger set is just right back. Jared Goff gets hit. His morale goes down and when you get multiple hits on your. that he becomes useless in the fourth quarter because he just doesn't have that vigor. That mental toughness that you need a quarterback. Bac Get the job done. And you know this whole. I mean. I guess he kinda fits. You Know California's boy in terms of me. Now Nellie being the quarterback but I mean Jared Goff is to me is not a quarterback out everyone on my team and definitely not a quarterback Katrina for. Also cool. It's also cool to see. McVeigh not play a little bit of. His wife in the first time and. He's playing basketball, the dog and all this met but I mean Sean the only thing that could really be Shawn Shawn. and. Shawn could get to create if he could try to do too much like pain. He's really the general manager that team when you think about it, I mean. So. I think he his personnel is not as adequate as it should be meaning he doesn't have that talent evaluation skill thirty whatever years old compared to someone like Bella jacker chemical or whatever. But there's there's something that just. Wish on. A he can get to a far ahead of himself. But I mean his brain, he just has a wonderful IQ you that his players pickup on. And you see them pick up. Really embrace it. You know they they're not looking Sean, mcvay Oslo thirty rolled white boy who is guy? They're thinking of this Guy Albert Einstein. And when you can reflect your knowledge of football to your players, players will believe and that's what you see with. McVeigh golf. You don't see that I mean I. See I see guys that are cool with him but I don't really see guys at just gravitate toward him. If you know what I mean and there's a huge difference between someone, you're cool with someone you gravitate towards to or is a huge difference and that will be the difference between winning or losing in the big time games. Is Just GonNa be a certain edge that you have to have. He just doesn't happen in my opinion, but in terms from a fantasy perspective, what I would I even consider jared goff. No. No Way. Okay. No brandin cooks their offensive line is so damn I mean come on Andrew Whitworth I'm big on I saw Whitworth on their he still in. I mean I've never I watched hard knocks. Over ten years ago he was on hard knocks. He was on the hard knocks over ten years ago and he's still here. He Still Joerg OPS blindside blocker. Yeah I don't think so I don't WanNa bit. The only person I want on team for my fantasy team is camakers because that's the way. He's an absolute tank, but still he's not going to be running. He's not going to have an ideal situation in front of him in terms of its interior office line is quarterback. The receivers Guber Cup is a great player. He just can't stay healthy Robert Woods he's up downhill have great games that will have great game. So I think is more consistency used with him, but I can't makers is the only one I take a shot in the tied into but he came on strong last year I don't know if he's going to pick it up. but that's all I got to say as far as the we didn't really. I mean they really feature much of the chargers I. Mean they kind showed they showed Anthony Lynn. They show you know a little bit of Dermot James at what he does and. They they showed a little bit of what they're about I. Think it was Martin focused on the rams and it's really focused on the new stadium and that's why they're doing it. They're it's all about the new stadium and I'm just glad that my favorite team gets to go into that new stadium. On September Whatever September Out of the day but I can't wait. I know it's in September I. Know US goes listeners you can't wait either because a lot of. Folks out. There are La Rams fans you are or la. chargers whatever or even Raiders Ravens got wants to look. I. Was the raiders were on this year actually better last year was just too much about Antonio Brown. But It's a big big big year for La Man China. It's too bad. The pandemics going on the stuff could be even. Blown out way bigger blown out of proportion but. It was crazy to see some of the things I saw I didn't I didn't expect to. See all this. You know social distance I mean the way these teams practice coronas pretty remarkable. I'll give them that this is pretty remarkable because. That'd be they're taking very serious like everything you touch something you wash your hands. You stay your distance you put your mask all like they're very strict about this. Then in hopes of you know having a fancy football season, it's looking good. I'm telling you looking good. So that's like hope for before against the break I wanted to briefly mention guys I said this as said this last week. Okay I said this last week. Please do not believe stories trying again. Are and what I mean this is. Guy X. is going to be looking. Fast as you same. You get the point everybody looks good at Training Camp I I'm pretty sure. I, said this last week I'm GonNa say to get. Everybody looks good in training camp. Why do they look at training camp? There's no contact. These guys aren't moving full game speed. This eighth, these the defensive backs they're not flying around like I mean the corners ever the safeties and I'm flying around like during the regular season game. They're playing. They're playing flag is tapping you when they're not tackling. If they were, there'd be different pursuits in SEC dairying. So when you hear all. I hear. A lot of fantasy fantasy. This is too fancy because. I hear a lot of fantasy football. Experts saying. I heard out of training camp. This guy is looking so good and this this I'm like why? So you think he's a better player because he's looking good at training camp. That makes no, sets. All right. If if you hear any of these arguments by any of these ESPN or antibody saying a player looks good in training camp than just click off the website don't even bother set up your draft there whenever you're doing because. That's how you know. They're looking at the things. We talked about look at the right things you look at your usage rates look at debt charts. You'll get a little bit of last year statistics and you try to project. You try to project so. Don't be trying to you know look at all of this guy's looking good Great. Some teams will try to release information about snap counts but again, how you like this preseason? Snap counter relevant. The depth chart is going to change twenty thousand times before the season starts. These put out a depth charge just to you know, get the media excited and it's going to change twenty thousand times so. I'm just telling you guys on saying hold the horses on training camp stories are. That's all you understand day. But let's get into the break. I'm really excited about this mock draft. I Really WanNa share you guys what we did on Thursday and how I cop this is the twelfth team, the twelve team PBR draft. So I'm GonNa go through every single. I'll try to go through every single pig quickly. Recap a stick around because we're going to break down this receiver position later and which receivers you need have wonder teams All right we'll be back with fantasy in just a second but I I got to talk about our good friends from Dollar Shave Club. 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MC PODCASTS DOT COM for more INFO. Back you're on Jesse fantasy football podcast just went over some news around the league. Some Fun. Johnny can't lies coming out but. I WANNA get into this masterpiece of a draft that I put together on Thursday so recording Friday. So yesterday, yesterday Thursday. Now we put together and it is. I can't think enough about this draft. So just to paint the picture, I had the tenth overall pick in twelve team. PBR SNAKE SO Most get that both we don't understand the snake one, two, three, four, five, six, seven nights I love twelve inside the tent. I'm going to have the third pick in the second round 'cause it's GonNa. Go Twelve, eleven ten, nine, eight, seven, you get the point so. With, ten pick I'm trying to get I try to explain this last podcast of how you attack it from the bottom snake. I'm trying to predict my two players. That I'm going to get and I'm trying to see who I should take I because I know that players not there. Now this is a little benefit that mostly guys will have. We did entire draft on zone. So. We were sitting around pig seven. And my basically my target was Kenyan Drake Okay I knew. Z. Ardley Kamera like they're not going to be there. Michael Thomas isn't going to be there Travis Kelsey was like the bailout option I doubt he was going to get picked there but I was like he's like a super bailout option Clyde we thought was going to go talk to him I. Believe he did there can read as well. So basically Kenyan drake is going to be my target miles. Sanders might be another target, but I think he went to pick before me. And then I look at Julio. Julio is still on the board unlike I don't WanNa pick wholly owned a first round. I talked about Julio less podcast. You Know Julio was a player that you definitely want to pick. As the thunderstorm shine as I mentioned his name but Julio is a player that you WANNA pick. Second round just do the fact that he doesn't have that same touchdown. You know he's not putting up to twelve touchdowns a year anymore guy's he only put up like four or five. So he's not really worth that first round pick anymore second round though he still still worth it because he soak. Player himself fantasy inside. He's so good. I mean. He does everything right as a receiver I. I don't know if you guys saw equipped NFL network me I think it was learned Fitzgerald. He was talking to Kala Murray he Larry Fitzgerald who I think is a top three receiver every play this game he said to Calamari. Guy Julio Airplane. They go. Julio's the best. I've ever seen. So the fact that he saying, I should say something but. I'm sitting there like man do I lock Julio because knowing me I'm not GonNa WanNa take a receivers and these next few picks I know I'm going to take running backs and tight it. So I'm not I'm not to get receiver. And at the same time man I, WanNa start off my drafts of the right back. I'm literally I just did a podcast going up about how you have to pick a running back I an applicant legged. If I pick Julio in a first round so As deciding. The person who is picking after me logged onto the zoo call. And he's literally you know bragging to boost in about Kenya Drake last season in this and this and that unlike man I better pick Doukas I know he's going to pick them so I'd say screwing Tenth overall we lock in. Kenya Andre. So. Couple of weeks ago by Davante Adams comes off the board. I think Nick Chunk comes off the board. Joe Mixing came off the board He's the guy I was talking about he mixing an Larkham off the board and guess who is still there. At the third overall pick in the second round Julio. Jones I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. So I mean listen I already got my running back first Julio sitting there who I on my board I have the first round player. I think he's honestly one of his wealth easily one of the twelve best players in fantasy. That's not a debate for me. So the fact that he was sitting there in the second round scoop right up who've lost. So I to Kenyan Drake and Leo John's you're off to a pretty good start my mind that's a elite adding. To running back with elite potential. And a receiver WHO's already elite so start off pretty well. So the draft moves on guys like Aaron Jones are off the board Lamar comes off the Board Travis Kelsey comes off the board. George. Gidel comes off the board tyreek Hill comes off the board holiday off the board might give is off the Board Carson off the board. and I don't know missing anyone else. But. We get to route three, pig ten. So basically, the same spot was less time. And I'm thinking to myself. Okay now. I can't get a receipt I'm definitely one of these fixes definitely going to be running back. I was thinking too Martin Bax that's honestly at the time in between those pigs are maybe I just go to running backs I have Julio I didn't expect to get Julio. So I'm sitting there like. Already have Julia why not just take the two running backs but a lot of running backs come off the board in that in that something I expected to happen. So basically, my best running back. Available at the time was Todd Gurley and you you guys know me excuse me. It wasn't tiger early. It was leaving on bill. I skipped around the heads my bet but lake on bell is the best right back at the time and The second. Best running back that I had on my board was James Connor. So. I'm thinking to myself man. I don't want James Connor this year he's a committee. They drafted a guy they got any smell. I mean they got way too many mouths down there. I just don't want to deal with him on top of his health issues. So this is a player I wanted to stay away with completely that's why I had him pretty late the second when he could be a little bit higher but. I'm setting myself I don't want to. BE ON I do want But If I go five six later. I'M GONNA, have to pick James Connor gone off network. So I I'm thinking man. Is there any way? I can get lazy on somebody else. So I go down to my best receivers available my best tight end. My best tight end available was that Gertz and I don't think it. Third Round Pick Zakar. It's. It's just not worth it in my opinion I. don't I mean he was a third round player but I mean I with the trajectory he's on it's not like he's not getting no Saint Tarp. It's like he did the years won the Super Bowl. So I'm just like, no. And my best receiver on the board. Was My pick AJ Brown. And as a Guy I hadn't thirties, he was ranked. I think thirty, four, thirty three on the ESPN board. But I had them in the early thirties and that's what we were sitting. And out sitting there going you know. Since the two best players on my draft board are two running backs while I locked the receiver up in just get one of those two running backs next. Now, this could come back to bite if. If both lay on bill and James Connor. Pick then your strategies totally went down the toilet but. If you look at the project, the rankings James Connor wasn't even projected to be going in the next five picks lay on bell wasn't either. So thinking there's a pretty good shot and that's what I talk about using consensus board to your advantage. I'm looking at the consensus board I see they're not even projected our next five six one of the guys on autographs already know it is going to be it's going to be the player who's at the top of the consensus board. So you could easily calculate who's going to be there just off projection and I'm thinking man. There's a good shot. One of those guys are going to be there. So I locked up Aj even though mean can you guys imagine is big two receivers with my first three picks. But guess what it all worked out because not only with James Connor sitting there lady on bell was sitting there. So we went back to back AJ Brown and scooped up later on, and that's when I knew we were having a good draft So I already got my two running backs in two receivers set. I honestly was thinking I was going to have to get a mediocre wide receiver to, but the fact you got AJ. Brown up who don't good we're doing. Good. So. Going into the next round art. Now, tight end is something I wanNA consider I. Don't know if there's going to be any tight ends. Lo and behold we skipped through. So guys come off the board like `They Lynn? girly. Johnson came out the board Devon Single Terry's off the Board Lamar at Homes Zach Ertz Mark Andrews. And we're sitting there. And we'll fast forward to fifth pick. And my fifth round pick I'm sitting there I have. My Buddy Eric who's picking the person did the board with on twitter page He's picking the pick after me. So I'm trying to think of what he's going to do knowing him 'cause we talk fantasy hours upon hours. So we kind of know who each other favorites are. You Know Dummy And Non Eric He loves balance. He loves making sure he has a tight end on like I got to pick a tight end right here. So I go to my list and I go wait a second Dr Waller hasn't been picked yet. And this is the fifth route. And I scroll down in. He's at number seventy on the ESPN board I'm like are you kidding me and I know Eric sank looking at him to like let's lock his ass off and both fifth pig their waller and waller is a player that a lot of people have actually. I've been very eye on, but some people back saying his volume numbers are going to go down because added receivers on the outside. I don't see that if I gotta be honest with you I actually see his touchdowns going up, which is a huge beneficial that make up for his yards. This targets will probably go down a little bit but I mean he had twelve hundred yards last year. That's insane. So if he goes down from twelve hundred, now eight, hundred, nine hundred but adds more touchdowns as a very productive tighter one. So locked him up and my best player on the board at that. I should said. My Best Player on the board was ready mustard. And branded. This was a PR league. But if I was thinking to myself man, we get most deflects. That's good. Because regime most my penis thousand yard rusher this year. So that's exactly what you want is not only your flex regard be to in your RV want so I get an one thousand yard rushers might flex and their waller. Were I. I should start maybe becoming a GM in the NFL. Help some other teams out but. It worked out perfectly football gods are the football guys shine on me waller with the fifth round pick waited Ramos sent right there in the six round scoop them right up. So s basically I built my core with my six six. I did the balance. I basically did a balanced strategy. I wait running back than receiver then I got my second receiver I could waited. and. Then I picked up beyond belt my second running back. Picked up Ricky Moser is my third running back and got my tight end. So I have three running backs, two receivers, Titan, which is awesome. If I wanted to go robust running back, upgrade my running backs. Probably would have still picked drake because he was the best player Ville Amuse the best running back available in the first round. If I didn't WANNA pick coolio I could have picked Aaron Jones by his Aaron Jones. This is what I was thinking at the time. I do lay down was going to be there later because he's way too low. If I sent this as my bounceback Kennedy, he's way too low in the consensus ranking so. I'm saying is there these are questions you have to ask yourself during draft? Is Aaron Jones going to be that much better than Lamy on belt I didn't think. So that's why I decided to pass on Aaron Jones. When I had AJ Brownsville. I sat there and said. James Connor. Go be that much better. So you know I mean. You have to ask yourself questions like the at assume the player you miss out on just assume that everything goes wrong free during the draft or I always have like five bailout options. Don't be the guy sitting in a locked in on one player than one pick before you the player goes and you're scrambling at your when you're on the class that's not what you WanNa. Do you WanNa have like four or five bailout options and just assume? That everybody's going to be gone. Just assume that because when they're not gone. It's going to give you a lot more options than you'll be sitting there. Oh, now he's here. He's here. Then you do business a lot more functioning but if you're sitting there locked in on one guy, you're almost impossible to recover when your clock. So that's what I was able to do with the first six picks Something that that was basically that's what I wanted to go over. But while some of the rest of the draft, why had it the seventh round I decided to select? Let me pull up at Home I. God I can't believe I. Forgot I think it was either Dobbins I know I, picked up Dobbins as either. Dobbins are receiver that I went in the seventh round I laid it on a quarterback, which is something that I probably will do in my other draft is well, just due to the fact that. Again there's there's thirty two starting quarterbacks is okay to wait on. Yes I went dobbins in the in the eighth round I. Think there the other running back taken was What's his name acres went off the board I was looking at acres. He went off the board. Peterson I was thinking to take him Peterson Let me take the rookie with upside because I think once Dobbin starts he's not going to be coming back out of that lot of. Then, the next pick basically at this point, I'm just looking for guys with higher upside Jamison crowder, he someone that. Doesn't get a lot doesn't touchdowns, but he's GonNa get a lot of targets on a lot of yards. So that's high upside. He's projected to have eleven and a half points week one, which is that's better than some starters Equal Heart. Deck. Is Nothing but upside twenty, two year old five star crew phenomenal player for the chiefs last year tyree kill goes down. That's a number. One target on everybody's traits is Michael Hartmann. So you guys I would I would take me cool in the tenth eleventh round in just on the bench if you can't because that's a player even if he doesn't even tire retail Sammy Watkins, they all stay healthy for sixteen games he still get six, seven, hundred yards and. Two touchdowns. Saad. Still think is productive player. and. Then we went with Matt Stafford at quarterback. He'll is a rogers was there too. I could have picked Rogers on. Rogers he's GonNa play well due to the fact that he's got Jordan love up is but but I think Stafford is really looking for that bounceback years. It was just injuries that was his problem I thought he was a great doing outstanding last year when he was healthy. So. I went in I like Big Ben. Up later I mean that he's not really that much of an insurance policy but still I wanted to get it back up then took Damian Harris. and. If you guys Malysz excuse asset if you guys listening I mentioned last pockets how he was he was asleep art and nobody was really talking him. I mean now I think his name is starting in. China. I. Mean People Understand. That Saudi Michelle is pretty much done. I mean his injuries are so overwhelming signing funny Amar Miller went out I. mean the Patriots have nobody at running back with Damian Harris, and this is not the Tom Brady offense guys. I mean James, White Rexburg like those guys aren't going to be as featured as much as they used to be. Those aren't Tom. Those are Tom Brady running-backs. This is Kamdoum. Offense where they're going to run the football and. They Harris is going to be far that definitely guy you want to scoop up in the twelfth thirteenth around nobody's going to be talking about him. I think his name's GonNa Stephanie Start to pick up traction. So right now, you can scoop them up twelfth thirteenth round, but it might come to you might have to up the eighth later on down the line hopefully. Hopefully. He stay silent so I could just. Pick them up in every single league so Moving on I finished up with Blake Darwin. I mean obviously got get blinked right have been talking about him for a while and then my final pick was brain ICU stoked to get him because gotta talked about this last podcast Jalen hurts. He's out acl done for the year deebo Samuel. This is the second injury in two years. Why not take a kid who was picked in the first round by great offensive coach with a plan this is a player you want on your team guys. I know he's a rookie, but once they get this given the game good shot he ain't coming out. There's a lot of guys on my team that they may be rookies but once they get in the game, they're not coming back out because they're coach is going to. Play. and. It's GonNa take a while this year because a lot of veterans are going to be as I've mentioned that earlier to it's GonNa be veteran favored. So it's GonNa. Take a while for these rookies get on the field but once injuries start happening there's no other choice so. That's why you still take a shot on some guys with high upside and guys who have a chance to start early that's the case but that was the entire draft. I felt it was great ape plus ten additon ten looking at some teams around the League mean I had one team monthly. he might Tom. This is how you don't do a draft. He went round my toss. Okay. He went round to homes. He went Odell in round three you're done. Do come on. That's your team. Mike Thomas Odell Pat. That's not winning and fantasy that might win if you put that on a real football field. Yeah. You my scares some people with that. But fantasy come on, give me a break but anyway, I'll posted up on social media page G. M. C. Underscore F-, football took that page out but that's all I. got for the draft we're GonNa take a break we'll be back we're GONNA get into some players that. They have just been miss spotted on the consensus rankings. There's a handful players that I wanNA talk about that are just being miss spotted on rankings not not too high, not too low I. mean there's some players will break it down. We'll break down who's to high who low next segment but stick around because we're going to get into wide receivers in a final segment. I top ten receivers will break them down which guys you want draft early, which guys you should coming right up after the break. 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That I feel are just misplaced in the consensus ranking Sir not some are too high summer too low but I just I just don't think they're in the right spot and I'm GonNa tell you why I don't think they're in the right spot. So I'm going to start off number one with Clyde Edwards. And with Clyde. Here's the thing. The consensus including myself I mean it's hard. It's easy to look at this look at Clyde and say well. Absolutely, well, great player and better than a great player. He's a high octane offense. So when they see them them in the chiefs offense what they're gonNA, do automatically overdraft. And the thing you have to understand about the chiefs offense is at Andy. Reid who I've seen for. It seems like twenty years in Philadelphia. He likes to spread the ball around. Our as he's not going to be forced feeding Clyde or force-feeding tyreek or Travis, he wants to use everybody in an equal amount possible. He even wants to get the backups in guys like me go hardman who I talked about and Sammy Watkins. They want those guys. To, basically touch the ball minimum three times a game he everybody involved because his philosophy is if I get everybody tussle defense defensive coordinator just GONNA lose their mind go clueless 'cause there's too many people to come. And that philosophy works when you have multiple talented weapons. So when you have multiple good receivers and running back like lied and at Mahomes and etcetera that's GonNa work but. When you don't have the, it's not a good strategy couch trying to do that years ago. Didn't work out too well and got our game but Clyde, he was ranked. In my Monte was ranked. Or mock my actual draft ESPN had at. Eight. I think eight or nine, and I've seen him do mock draft. I've seen them as high as five and under discussion like this Clyde Edwards layer is not the running back. The YOU WANNA draft I. L Like a five overall and build your team around. He's running back you I'd say is an rb to he'd be very good. As an rb three, it's almost impossible considering his stock but as to. If you if there's any way, you can get him to I. Get him the reason I don't beat as a one. Is because the one has to be your engine. The one has to be the guy's GONNA show. He's GonNa get a hundred yards. All purpose every Sunday. That's basically what you want from your one and I don't know if it's going to get that every. Sunday. Now, there's a chance he could get. All purposes 'cause they're gonNA I feel like they're going to get him involved so much receiving but he's such a boomer bus prospect he such a boomer bus prospect because we've seen the rotation with these chiefs backs we've seen you know Andy. Reid not really Mike enforce the guys and the fact that he's a rookie you know he's a rookie without a off season. So those things you have to consider now that's not saying. That's not saying I don't like the player I don't like the player that high is what I'm saying where I'd have collide Clyde is like fifteen. Okay high or too. That's where I. Think he is. You know just because he's a rookie but there's no way in heck. No way in Heck I? Don't see. Clyde is a top five running back just not for me. Now let's move into this next name that is in the same draft class as Clyde, but he's nowhere near Clyde and I think it's ridiculous and that's my man in Indianapolis Jonathan Taylor now. Jonathan Taylor. was. Basically A. Player who at Wisconsin was. Incredible player he's incredible WanNa. Walker were twice the only two other people to win the Walker twice or to my favorite players did der McFadden? Ricky Williams. The. Intensity the physical to miss his game the way just as a workhorse that put short-term he is a workforce standard. You better get this guy under teen. Okay. Because when you have a Ryan back him behind the colts offensive line full, that's a lot of points at yards. So Standard I absolutely I make this guy, my rb to his standard. That's how I am and PBR I'd lean more towards him as deflects, but this guy is a starter and he's not even ranked as a starting. On the ESPN board, he was ranked fifty seven. In the mock that I did fifty seven. There's no way fifty, six players about an. Okay. This is not there's no way. There's no way. Fifty six players are going to be more productive than him. This year. Are Now here's why they have Look. Two reasons number one. He had injury concerns in college. People don't know that but he did get her and I. Think it was a sophomore year he missed time and. They're saying that's the reason that he didn't really go in a first round like he should have. You know if you look at his numbers eighteen yards, I mean that's running backs on do that in college every day at. Wisconsin at level. That is so the fact that he's getting that much. Should've made my first round pick it didn't the colts traded up in the second round against him? So. That's the injuries they're concerned about. But I think they're real concerned committee. They think that Franks go into this tango. Okay. I gotta get nine on third down some reception touches I gotta get Marlon Mac the bulletin times a game, and that will feed Taylor in the late game if we're up. And I just don't think the early on they're gonNA do that but. I think there's GonNa be a game where the culture just not. They're not belonging somebody out who knows how good they'll be without be a game somewhere along early in the year where they're just they're up by. Two touchdowns. Three touchdowns late in game. And they're gonNA Taylor in the game because they're going to say this time Kim Simone and Nc Wednesday touches that rock. Frank Rights GonNA. Be Amazed. And he's not going to take him out for more than. And Naim Heinz I could still see him fighting his way on the field trying to take snaps buying is doesn't run like Taylor, he's nowhere near built like Jonathan Taylor. The thing the ninth highest could do better is maybe a little bit better pass pro just do the experience and he's definitely better in receiving. I'll give him that but. Once they once Jonathan Taylor Zabel showcases skills as. A receiver. I think that'll go out the window because he can't do that too. He's not as good as, but he could do that and. He can learn how to pass pro block. And Philibert. Make sure he learns sexy doesn't he's not on the field. So data diller way too low opinion he's fifty seven on the ESPN board he should be in the thirties or forties he's a starting player and Stein, should start in fantasy once he starts in real life. So make sure you nabbed that guy late I say those students back to back because these are the two running backs that were drafted. Ten spots apart yet clyde were two layers all the way up in the top five. John Taylor. Down in a fifty cent makes absolutely no sense that just shows. That's my point to you guys. The consensus is not right. I that's why you need to do your own homework and your on research because there's no, there's no logic behind. Separating those two that far apart. So another today really want to go to now the third name I'm getting to is another rookie that will move into a couple of veterans Michael Pittman Junior. Saint Team Indianapolis Colts figure we segue into him talking about the colts. Now when you look at the goals receiving core, you got thirty T. Y. Hilton and who else. You can't name anybody else because there is no one. I mean, you have Paris Campbell who they drafted last year curse me is just a Ohio state. Athletic Kid Fronts. Well, that's why he got the he's not to meet and he's not a player. He doesn't offer a lot of great route running. It doesn't offer anything physical guys like barely hundred pounds so I don't think he's. Going to be competition for Michael Pittman in terms of stealing snaps Michael, worship be third receiver and I think an easily pass Paris Campbell to be the number two receiver, and then once ty gets hurt because it's been happening for the past three years, it'll be the number one receiver. Oh that happened quick but as football stuff like that happens quick and that can happen in one week so. Michael Edmund Junior is not even at draftable player according to ESPN. He's all the way down. They just say he's pretty much stuck in the back after the depth chart. This is definitely draftable Blair. If he if he if there's a chance, he could be the wide receiver one on the team. He's definitely draft players I draft him. Twelfth Thirteenth Round Him on your bench. He's one of those bench dashers. You definitely want to stash this guy because even if you don't use them yourself and he does, well, you use them as a trade darker guys. You know always thinking that's why you try to get guys with high upside on the bench because maybe they don't start for you but they become great trae targets and if you could trade guys on the bench for guys, you're starting off man, you're doing good job drafting and trade you're doing a good job. So Michael Pittman very high upside from USC to were Juju is not you know I gotTa Make Fun of that because these guys are all flashy this matt on social media, but USC will have ready to play in the pros. That's something I can't knock you for USC they'll they get these kids ready to play in the pros so I don't expect the transition for Edna Be. Seamless bide on expected to be difficult at the same time. So look for this guy picked them up in the twelfth thirteenth around way too low. Now. One running back. I'm high on one running back down low on. Let's get into the running back on high on. That is my man David. Johnson. Now say my mandated Johnson because. He wanted me a league in two thousand sixteen. Why went twelve and won the championship undefeated season. It was him Lesean McCoy I had. Does on my team, my head Jordan Reed on my team my head drew brees on my team just ridiculous season. But he was the forefront of that team. He had over two thousand purpose yards. He was ridiculous on the receiving game on screens. He was awesome running on a just a do it all player and then. Back to back injuries in he got shipped at Arizona. So He's basically sitting at Houston new opportunity. Houston finally got rid of Carlos, Hyde who couldn't play and brought him in. At this is a new facility for David Johnson and I think he's GonNa make amends a bit Will he returned to that two thousand years now but he is going to have. At least fifteen, hundred all purpose. I. Am very confident that the show Watson will get him involved in receiving. He'll ask the ball on receiving because this could do damage on the open field. I'm also confident that they're going to run with him. are once they see a healthy David Johnson there you bill O'Brien's GonNa use him in the offense. There's no doubt about it. All right. There's no de'andre. Hopkins there's no. So the off, really your best weapon on offense on paper is David Johnson. Think about on paper. Your best weapon on offense is David Johnson, of course, aside from. Watson himself but. Still, when you have a running back like that, going to a new opportunity, a new picture for him somewhere where you know. He can mentally. Activates to the situation he's in very well, just due the fact that he has a he has a team that invested in the offensive line on like the cardinals they invested in a good quarterback, their head coaches I like everyone else hates him I get it but. They can make. That situation work and I, think if David David Johnson involved in receiving like they like Arizona did early on. Met. That's a player. You WanNA targeted fantasy. He'd be a great flex option and I think he's easily running back to and according to ESPN. He's of He's touching at the fifties I think he's a late forty I gotta check but that's a thirty two even at twenty. Overall he's basically what lady on. What everyone thinks is going to do last year. I think he David. Johnson might do this year. All right. How everyone saw coming back off the years rest new system this this and this. I mean, he just didn't work out. Johnson he's coming back healthy new system. I think this is GonNa work out. So keep an eye out for him. And My last guy is the guy that actually don't like the Guy I think is too high and that's Melvin Gordon Melvin Gordon. On ESPN board set. These at six, fifty nine. The nine or sixty. He's basically rb three Melvin. Gordon and not even address player. They do not pick Melva Gordon. Do not pick. Mountain Gordon not. Always Melvin Coordinating Committee Melvin Gordon isn't shape guys. Are If, there's if there's reports that you should pay attention to rather than the reports, all this guys wide open this guy's looking like you sample. Look at the reports whether these guys are shape Melva Gorz not in shape I read a report on the last episode he's having trouble dealing with out to. Are Now I know that some that you can't control but. You're a professional athlete you're telling me you're having trouble breathing. Wherever training in the Aussies March you in Denver off season training. So, don't give me any of this stuff that means you're not in shape dude you're not committed had showed last year with the chargers. He wasn't all that good and I hold out his career to spend on downward spiral stay far far away from Gordon. Handfuls of running backs if I mean the fact that Espn Things Melvin Gordon better running back then John Taylor should. Pretty much some update consensus as a whole. Okay. There's no way in heck. That's even remotely possible. So. Those are five players that I really WANNA get into. The I just don't think right at all I made my passion arguments for them and I. Hope You guys use that information correctly. But. Coming up final segment, we're going to get into top ten receivers where these receivers go who, I. Think's the best and who should draft coming up next. This job built around the women of MMA from the UFC to the extreme case fighting we got the fights cover. The golden state media concepts, women's MMA podcast. The latest news of upcoming flights discussions of previous matches join us as we talked to in about the biggest names women's mixed martial arts past present and future. When it's the women's fight game, you know to listen to the Golden State media concept's women's MMA podcast. All right back on the GMC fantasy football pockets. Final segment, we are going to get into my top ten receivers. Last podcast Atop San run bags of previous. I did top ten quarterbacks. Now, we're GONNA do the receivers and other receivers in the most intriguing position in my opinion, just due to the fact that. It's so arbitrary everybody has their preferences. Everybody loves someone that more than they should and it's an easy position to fall in love with mean. Since the Flash, IT'S TO'S SHADOW CINCO. It's you know it's it's the wide receivers. Anyway let's get into wasting time get into list now. Brinson I had to put my guy that drafted yesterday and that's Aj Brow. Now I could have put a lot of guys. A lot of guys at length like, DJ. Moratorium Inglorious. The top ten but. Aj Brown is easily the best nice. Not Really Asleep but I think he is because people don't talk about him enough. I mean this is a rookie receiver who had twelve hundred yards rushing offense. Okay, that's that's all you need to. Not. He's a rookie he was a rookie receiver. All, right. In a rushing offense and he had twelve hundred yards are he's already the number he's second year going to be his second year and he's already the number one. There's no. If this guy if that guy no, he is the number one there's nobody else it's not corey. David are. They found out last year that Gory David stinks they found that out earlier but if he can't play Aj can't. That's why they picked some. So Aj. Brown easily top ten receive. I think. He can even get better on those numbers he had last year and his numbers were outstanding last year. They were outstanding. So the fact that he can get even better. Results with those numbers I think speaks him I, mean, this is a player that if you can get as your wide receiver to like I, did yesterday you're in good shape. That's where targeting round for round if he's there around five to scoop them up no hesitation but take a look at this guy he's one of my favorite and I think he deserves a spot on the top ten. Number Nine, we're GONNA do De'andre Aachen's now if this were two years ago, he'd be in the top three. Now, the reason happens is in number nine. Again Committee. And I know we're not talking backs but for receivers you Larry Pistol there. All right. I know Larry Francis. ageless. But Still Larry Fits is there and he's going to he don't. He's not there to not guess the bulk guys. Are He's going to be on the field. He's a starter. He's GonNa play every down guest the ball now healthy Andre in a sense because De'andre is not gonNA face that many double teams as he used to. Now that really helped the audrey. But however, the cardinals don't have the pass protection the especially with Colin Murray they don't have the time to be sent back on a for five seconds like at Mahomes does deepal. Fast offense they're going to move murray out as much as possible role mount wherever it the ball out quick and try to basically get budget elite route runners I think Hopkins. He's a do it. All player has hard pass on a first round pick I know they the Detroit, but you have him yet fits and you also have Christian. Kirk. Of Christian Kirk was a player that if you know has never traded there, he would have been the sleeper he would been a guy everybody was talking about now people don't like her. Can I agree because of Hopkins being there he basically goes back to the third wide receiver position, which is still a starting position you're still going to be on the field but. The same time it's for fantasy. You're looking for number one. You're not looking for guys who were going to be the third so I've been. I have zero problems with this game. I have problems with his usage rate. Is He still top ten? Yes. Because I think he can still have say numerically twelve to thirteen hundred yards maybe ten touchdowns in at stop ten. That's that could be top five but I just worry about how many targets he's GonNa get. relationship with new quarterback Colin Murray is not the Shawn Watson. So as something to look after, but will put Hopkins Number Nine number eight tie retail. Now, for talking real life, he'd be way higher but tyree recalls number eight for reasons. Number one he's has health injuries. Aren't he has health problems last year it was a brief stint was only. Was An ankle in early season for a few weeks, and then he came back play the rest of the year. Fine. But you have the problems and he also off the field problems guys are. This guy was involved in a pretty big domestic violence case last year I know the NFL swept under the rug what they do with every other domestic violence case but still this is a player who has this red. Flags. Are being a tyreek Hill fancy owner last year you loved him when he was healthy but you had. This. Feeling inside that you better be ready not there. And you really shouldn't have that feeling with all your players but him especially, I've made sure I had a two to three I jenny Golic Day antilock it's sitting. So if anything happens, we swap him out, put them in but still I mean tyreek Hill is just a player that. I love you. You'll everybody would love but. He's not reliable in terms of your number one fantasy receiver that's just going to be. The guy that is there every game? GonNa make get ten points a game. Or going to produce ten points a game I should say. And you don't have to worry about. or off the field that's basically what you want. Kill is seventy five percent of what I just described. Now I knew I was getting a sixteen game tyree kill diary can be it's up to be probably number two on this list I even put him above Julio. Just because he's so dynamic, he could he's a deep threat. If he catches one deep ball, it's for a touchdown. You Win you're gay. So he's way too dynamic to leap outside the top ten but a little too many red flags put him inside the top five. So I think number eight spot for him number seven can go. All right and I've talked about Kennedy Golladay raved about him in the past. This is an outstanding player. He smooth a good route runner his high catch point is outstanding and I I just love his game. I also love his quarterback that's finally coming back healthy. Shadow. Matt Stafford at Matt Stafford stays healthy. Out. Kennedy Gol Day's GonNa have some big time games and big time UH statistics are athletic statistics for big time last year. I mean there's some games he caught three passes for one hundred, forty yards. Like guys rainy Moss's doing that I mean, that's that's rare rare deep throat ability to be able to do something like that and some of these plays if you watch him in his yards after catch. He's a big body guy. So he has the ability to get yards after catch and he can go in the red zone and be a threat there, which is going to help a lot in terms of fantasy point. So I think when Golladay the only problem people are GonNa say Oh Golladay was inconsistent. He was up and down. Yeah. Hemi he has quarterbacks were you know? They had Jeff Driscoll in and they had what's his name David Blow In a quarterback. David Blow. God He's good enough in the NFL so. The fact course you don't have consistency issues if they're swapping quarterbacks every week I mean. You have to you'd have to assume that Stafford isn't going to play sixteen games this year just because it's been. It's been two years in a row that he's had health problems so. You have to factor that in. But at the same time we're talking about Golladay I mean, he still had one hundred yard games without him and I think if he has with him, he'll be a top five receiver. So I think seven zero spot for number six we're going to put Adam sealant now salen the reason I. Love This Year High, volume? Kirk cousins doesn't know any of those other receivers aside from Adam feeling and feelings it very quarterback for receiver elite route runner he's great in and out. Greatness Lot so he'll get open over the middle where the quarterback favorite spot is and with kirk cousins who's not really a guy who's GonNa he is more of a West Coast guy you. Throw. Some intermediate short passes before he looks at a deep ball This is the guy, this perfect form and you saw the comedy work well, last year for the brief stamp before sailing went down the injury I, think feeling this year he's coming back with. A lot of determination and prove himself and. Show that he's at number one. I. Know They drafted just just Jefferson I think he's they're projected to I'll think Jefferson is going to be ready early on I. Think they're bringing them up too early but they got have no choice considering the defined digs do I think Stefan base presents takes away from feeling? Yes. Do I think it's going to perceive more double teams this year on some occasions? Yes but Phelan's targets in usage is going to be absolutely through the roof I mean they have nobody else on that team Nobody else on that team I mean, they have Dowden Cuckoo's has injury problems but in terms of receiving they have Phelan that's about it. I can't name any other receiver on that team. So I love target share. The boat evasion bounce back this season after being hurt last year you know going in China, get another payday I think the. Prime prime candidates do well this year I think number is correct spot for him. Now five is going to get interesting. Odd Number. Five or number four back back because they both play on the same team and you can guest Chris Godwin and Mike, and is now going to put my games at Fort. Just, due to the fact that Evans has way more consistency and play making ability over the years than Godwin. Does Godwin. Last year was kind of his breakout year. This year is hoping to continue with Brady but when you look at it overall. Could got when beans hi. Yes There's definitely a chance Scott when could be too hot but I mean. Man's guys just got a lot of ability. He's fast. He can get in and out great like I've seen he's a great deep threat as well, and he's GonNa make with though teams going might get now. The thing with my guidance is You know he's got the double teams but he also got her. So this is GONNA be his seventh year league already. Devon's because if Evans it gets hurt I mean Goblin stock is Oh, my goodness I mean he's the number one receiver and he's already a good player. So it'd be a great player to have if Evans goes down but you know what? I'm saying could happen to got one now. Obviously. The biggest factor for both of these guys is the fact that Tom Brady court. Now Brady. To be honest and a fantasy perspective, it might not work out for him because Brady's GonNa go more for the check. Now he's GonNa. Go more for the short or intermediate. He's not James Winston, where he doesn't care if he turns the ball of Brady cares returns the ball or he's not going to turn the ball over James doesn't care. So James Civil throw a fifty are passive. He sees the safety he doesn't care, and there's Todd's regard what's going to catch it. And about the other three times, it's going to get intercepted. Brady's not gonNA take those shots. He'll take those shots occasionally, but he's not gonNA take those shots regularly so That's something I think Godwin comes down a little bit his numbers but it's again the offense way to dynamic with the quarterback. He has to leave him outside the top five. Evans. Just inconsistent playmaker over the years everywhere he's got he's produced no matter what the quarterback no matter. I mean he was catching fifteen hundred yards from Johnny Manziel. All right. In college she basically made Johnny Menzel Look Good College that's a lot of people don't know but. It doesn't matter who is quarterback is I'm very confident. He'll producer vs healthy. So He's definitely worthy of the number four number three to wrap this list up is Davante. Adams. devante. He's got a similar situation theline except I think he's even better than feeling he's younger he's more explosive and he did have his injuries problems last year. Although they were brief I thought he's able to overcome them. and this is GONNA BE A. Big? Year for Devante think he really wants to. Go Out, get that number. One money eventually has gone away his contracts of, but I know it's coming up soon. See just the design, the League a four year extension of three years ago I'd say so it's coming up soon. and. Now be the number one receiver in Green Bay. He's got a chance to prove himself not only rogers, but he's gotta prove himself to stick around with maybe Jordan So. I love his game I think he's developed into a great player over time. I remember him cook in the cowboys as a rookie in the playoff game and I. Just I love his upside I think easily desert. If he stays healthy, he's easily top five receiver and with Roger. quarterback he's been with over five years. Not a lacking gone. So some list will go number two, Julio Jones I kinda went on a random earlier. Just does everything right a player that I mean my God it's hard to go against him. I mean I can't put anybody above Julio except for Michael. Thomas. That number one because Michael. Thomas had a hundred fifty one, hundred, fifty receptions last year. That is insane. That's insane. Okay. That's not going to happen again but the fact that he had a hundred fifty receptions on over one hundred, fifty target damn. Your two hundred targets are you kidding me? I mean we talk about usage a lot guys that is a number one by foreign away in usage. That's the guy you want to have on your team. There's going to get to a point in the first round where you might have to take. Michael. Thomas. I in not going to be disappointed, but you're not going to have the running back. So as the downside, but as far as Michael Thompson game goes. Great situation, great player don't have any doubts about him. Same with Julio could be injury concerns. The fact that he's not getting in the red zone of is still he does all the little things right as hard to take anybody above. So to recap the list number ten, Aj Brown number ninety, Audrey Hopkins Number Eight tyreek Hill number seven can go. Day Number six, Adam Phelan four or five. Chris God. When Fort Mike Evans Three Davante Adams to Julio in one Michael Thomas Those are your top ten receivers from your boy and at Wineman and folks that is all this week on the GMC fantasy football podcast. Really WanNa give a shout to G. S. M. C. podcast network for making this all happened. Please follow the twitter page G. S. M. C. Underscore it's I mean fantasy football. Basically you guys know the initials, but she s MC underscore. F- football so to with. You guys get the point, but head over there, my top one, hundred boards over there. 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REShow: James Wolk. Hour 3 (11-14-19)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: James Wolk. Hour 3 (11-14-19)

"Thank you for listening to this. podcast one sports net production available on Apple podcast and podcast one okay. This is a thirty second commercial. Jill and I'm going to throw a lot of numbers at you but please stay with me and just fifteen minutes. You could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance. This company's been offering great rates in great service risk for over seventy five years in. Anytime you need help you can speak to one of their trained specialist. Twenty four seven the company is GEICO. Go to GEICO DOT COM today. Sorry for all the numbers and in five four three two one amount of time. Our number three the rich Eisen and show on the air amy. Trask our number one about all the news in the NFL involving Colin Kaepernick. Seventeen Games scheduled at Would mean the extension of the season deeper are into February And what that would mean would be. I think the final realization of an NFL dream. Now I think a lot of fans I I. Don't I sit there and think what would it seventeenth gaming. It would mean a strange number a a final record. It would take a long time to get used to a ten finishing seven and ten were having an eight nine record be Sniffen it for a playoff spot. Be Weird the stat book would be totally turned upside down. We'd have to start new because everything would have an asterix twenty twenty twenty on or whatever but it used to be a fourteen game season than the sixteen game season and we've we've survived at right. That's true too It there'd be a lot to try and get used to and not a I'm resistant to change is that I I am as well okay. They didn't Major League baseball like you. I said they'd done it before what it would do. Push everything back a week and what that would do as I'm sure. They would configure it in a way to make the dream of NFL fans that the day after the Super Bowl is deserving of a national holiday. It would make come true because you'd put the Super Bowl on President's Day weekend President's Day Sunday Super Bowl Monday day off just like everybody says there should be that's usually usually re NBA All star weekend. Do you think they would though two leagues would work together and move. NBA Up. Let me think about that now. They would not work together so you're going to have NBA All star weekend and Super Bowl on the same weekend or the NBA would have to move. And then the response I think would be a very to I. Guess Mix Worlds Very Mulvaney like get over it I I. I don't know if it's going to happen. Don't know will happen. But that's part of what's the thinking I know. Yeah again. This was told to me years ago by a major executive involved in the NFL. Who no longer is there that the idea would be one day to push things deeper into the month of February sweeps month where you put the championship campionships Sundays on the first weekend? Febraury so how do you make the television package more lucrative another another game and it would push the ability for at television networks to make more money off of it because now you've got the Super Bowl and championships Sundays in a sweeps month. So we discussed all that Our apposite spot for you to get Our poll question all the videos going down a wormhole we. This has been part of art. Show Open on the radio side of things at ordure on yesterday when I mentioned to him The video of his Profane speech to his team after rolling. Todd which was awesome but I wish it just play this one more time. I enjoy the so much based on some of the video heard from your speech to the tunnel. What emotions were flowing through you to say what we all heard Juicy J emotional game sometime you say thank within the family address that that should have never get out? That was not how farm anybody and that was. We've got that for the public. That was just meant football team. He made a mistake. And we move forward from A. And let's be honest though. I mean Alabama kind of feels the same way about so you. Wouldn't you say a result of you. That one more talk. I think because yeah. I've heard it so many times. My favorite part about that is just how the gravel voiced at a high pitched giggle that we elicited and then he pauses really. Don't care and it goes right back. I know the cracks me up just actually up. Our poll question is brought to you by our friends at PR LIVE NBA pickup. Is your chance dance to win big this NBA season lock in your game predictions to build up your pick 'em points towards awesome NBA prizes play free NBA dot com slash pickup. What do you have over there Chris? The the most crucial. NFL game this week for both teams right now. steelers Browns twenty-eight percent bears Rams twenty-seven percent Texans Ravens twenty-five percent okay. It's Nice poll question when it split like that I like And then one one quick poll question for you guys just shadow a James James Walk out here. He's in watchmen. HBO's watchmen while it As red hot a television show is there is and he went to a school that is one of Var three on the maters. Which one do you think it is Syracuse Seton Hall Michigan? Seen All. Chris what do you think. Say the cues. You'd be wrong both of you class of two thousand seven. If I don't need to be made feeling any older today especially especially with the video that got tweeted out with steelers browns going tonight for week. Eleven in Cleveland. The latest I erase steelers browns. In Cleveland Somebody tweeted out the first time. The steelers played the browns in Cleveland. After the BROWNS KING BACK BACK to Cleveland it was the first game ever in Cleveland. Two Point Oh it was their home opener in nineteen ninety nine back in Cleveland and somebody tweeted out. The sportscenter highlight from that night. And that person is me I did the highlight. How's the flow went two years ago L.? It's it's it's a flowing mane and and You know I'm going to I think I retweeted I will re tweet it because you can hear in my Ledin. There was I I I I mentioned like some sort of slight towards Pittsburgh fans made by Cleveland newspaper. And you could hear my cohort to my left go Um like that because upon me reading these slight that person is definitely Dan Patrick. There's no question I know. I know a DP off off-camera Twenty years ago plus a different life holy crap Abbas avas thinking about that earlier years at the newspaper seemed like another wife ago. Which one when you were in Maine? Yeah when you are the main Two thousand nine main sports columnist of the year they very the sound like You sound like married with children talking about Al Bundy. Your term years goes. How many touch don't you have high school l.? I did have a three touchdown house in Nineteen Columnist of the year sports combat. Well it's a good thing we brought this up especially since we're about to play our new Christopher news drop go for the report reporter as news from the world of sports entertainment someone who is not a journalist or newsman by any definition of the word whatsoever. It's Chris Brockman. Good like it brought to you by the twenty twenty Honda pilot seating for up to eight and available intelligent traction management. You can haul all your all pros this season so hardy your local Honda dealer. Today I think with our drop I might have to read that Honda Promo before the drop just so you can go right into it after your yeah. I think we need to reconfigure things a little. Thank you Justin on the dark. It's all good. It's all good not looking good. Though for Matthew Stafford did not practice practice again. Excellent segue right there. That's that's just you warwick. That's award-winning award-winning. I've learned from the best. You know what I'm saying. You know what I appreciate that conjoined. It's looking like he's going to sue the begins. Dallas that's a huge game also Ian rapoport reporting Stafford with tiny fractures in his transverse process of his back. Out to the Romo's on Romo had a few years ago. So what does this all have in. Common Dallas took on New Orleans without drew brees took on MINNESOTA Without Adam Phelan took on the the Let's see if I can get this right and took on the Took on the jets with darnold and they took on. Yeah the giants on Monday night or with the black cat. But they didn't have they took on. Oh yeah they took on Green Bay without Davante Adams. That's the one. What are those? Have all in common. The New Orleans without breeze green bay without Davante Adams and Minnesota with that atom says all of them. Yeah so things are looking up for the lines. 'cause the cowboys lose games in which you have one of your best players injured for Jeff Jurisco Mike Mike another start. It is and he was slippery. He had a chance by the way to tie game in Chicago and by the way if Chicago had lost that one there are enough remote controls in Chicago to turn off all the television sets. That is still one of the weirdest stories of the year. Okay are there injury news here. David David Johnson not on the injury report so he looks like a good to go. He's been slowed by an ankle injury. It's been slowed period. He has I'm not sure. What's up with them? Joe Staley underwent some finger surgery. He's is expected to missed a few weeks for the forty niners bomber Map Brita didn't practice yesterday. Either for San Francisco. Keep an as neither to George Gidell's keep an eye on Those guys okay Alex Guerrero you know Tom. Brady's TB twelve trainer was on W. E.. This morning said that Tom now wants to play until he he's forty six or forty seven. Okay quote I certainly believe the forty five is still realistic goal. We talked about it all the time. Forty two right now for needing perspective every year here he just adds another year. Because I feel good and I go. I'm going to go home. Forty five and I'm like okay. And now he's like Alex. I think I can go to forty six or forty seven. They spinal vinyl tap. Went to eleven right. We thought that was impossible. Tom Brady Rams are chargers quarterback next year I think Vicky still with you come. I think he's just doing what he's what he wants to do. which is just make people? Guess he's not going anywhere. There's no way Bob Kraft is letting him go anywhere and they're not ready for what he come on all right. Maybe we'll see who shows up to the CAP workout patriots you. What did you tweet out when you heard about? The capital workout is said Patriot. Sign them Brady Walk. And now this new Ravens Evans like offense with the number one Directa league next year because Bella Chaco figure out how to do it and mcdaniels and they'll figure it out how mcdaniels figure figure it out when he's the New Dallas Cowboys head coach. That's true I mean if you were if we're going by trade and touched her take for take that's fair. I think we versus next year balance escalated quickly. You did an update on the load management situation is not not play tonight. Left knee injury management. Come on Pat Beverley also now playing tonight path. Paul George probable probable so Paul. Welcome back and everybody else you know. We'll see we'll see you next time. Now see when Paul George tonight they are really really. I mean doc I gotta get touch with Matt. I gave them the trophy October thirtieth. Because it's is all about what I do here on the rich Eisen show yes ever since. I gave them the trophy on October. Thirtieth thirtieth they've load managed now a third time will be the third game. Yeah back to back. Okay right I know you of harping on Notre Dame rich. This one's kind of for you. Notre Dame has two hundred seventy three straight home sellout streak guests. Yes expected to come to an end Saturday against navy according to the school this dates back to nineteen seventy-three eh. This home sellout streak you know what coming to an end. It's still fine because as we've seen big time fans cheer and slow clap Outside the stadium because they're hearing all of the crowd noise from inside the stadium chanting names and things like that so we know you know they they just slow loud pod slow clapping outside. The stadium doesn't matter unless wait a minute. Are they going to take this record and carried off the field Notre Dame ad said this comes data comes during a time of sustained success for our football program reflects both the challenges impacting the ticket market nationwide and the epidemic and the unique sign sign the host monkey ensure writs we can get the serum and fix. What's row at Notre Dame? It's an epidemic. It's an outbreak. Let's get Dustin Hoffman on the case because they're bleeding they're bleeding in Indiana. Oh that's right. My bad and the unique GEICO GEICO Michigan for fourteen years. Honestly Chris Your Child Your Child. That's going to be born here. Let me get a good one right here. Let me get uh-huh Ryan Klesko welcomed into the world. Okay what a weird welcome to the world. He can be Bar Mitzvah. But he can convert to judy. B- Bar Mitzvah before the next time. Notre Dame deemed at fine to play Michigan again. That's what's the guy talking about all to nationwide problem. It's not just us. I understand what a bunch of crap must be Scottish. It's such crap. MEMPHIS's declared James Wiseman freshman ineligible and withhold limb from all games after he withdrew his lawsuit against the sea on Thursday. Yeah I don't know Memphis announced. It would reply for his. Reinstatement so keep an eye on that situation nations. And last going down to Notre Dame wormhole is as one of my favorite things to do. I did that one just for you. Jacob degrom won his second straight and Al Cy Young Award seventh guy in history. I wonder I New York met to do it. By the way Orlando takes home his second. Look for Jacob degrom he so good the eleventh pitcher to win back to back Cy. Young awards ready to name him. I got him I WANNA deal was colfax extent Denny maclaine Jim Palmer Raja Randy Johnson. Either way but the way you Greg Maddux Pedro Randy Johnson did it from ninety nine to zero. He won four in a row. I think it's short Ted Lindsay Graham. Oh Wow Clayton Kershaw Max Scherzer. Now degrom ninety nine two thousand. Yeah so rain. He's the only one to do it. Four in a row but clemens is done at four times times await ninety two three four five nomadic stood at four times in a row. Randy did it four times in a row. Raja had it four times but at two different places says he has eight total right. He's got five size because I know that. Because that's how he signed his autograph in our in our Green Room. Actually the rich Eisen show bathroom but in case anybody wonders that that's a problem. Okay Okay Clements is seven powered by the way. Yeah I guess you should know that but It's in the bathroom. Also in the bathroom is crossword. Ra- yeah my where I was A clue to the New York Times Crossword puzzle at my mom framed. And also the caddyshack poster that was autographed by Chevy Chase so there are some very important items in there and quick hockey note. Sidney crosby is going to be out about six weeks surgery for core muscle. Thank you Christopher her ears. 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It's a very clear message. It's two stars and the navy and everybody else on Ford. The relationship that is developing between those two off the court and on the cohesiveness on the court I think in this case is a special case then the two of them will enhance each other as opposed to taking away from each other. Be Sure to subscribe and leader of you available in Apple podcasts casts and podcast old baby's kicking off the holidays in style with forty percent sent off everything that's right everything on your list is on sale. Now get forty percent off every pair of jeans. Forty percents off all sweatshirts. All hoodies skied and forty percents. Off All outerwear get forty forty percent off all the holiday gifts they want at a price. You want forty percent off everything. Old Navy and old navy dot com now hurrying or miss out valid eleven fourteen to eleven nineteen eighteen excludes gift cards today only and today only deals gift of the week Clearance Register lane items zips APP stop and jewelry. This man's credits includes madman. admen billions Goliath and now watchmen every single Sunday night at nine PM Eastern on. Hbo He is James. Wolk good to see his sir. Good see that. You're from the Great State of Michigan. I am where we're in Michigan. I was born and raised in Farmington hills. Michigan Farmington Hills Michigan. Yeah okay forty five minutes from so and you went went to the University of for four years for four years so you grew up a Michigan Fan or are you state. What are you because it's very important? You declare Right now yes this week as you know this weekend is a pretty huge one game. A game on so definitely a Michigan Fan. All my cousins on my mom's side went to Michigan state and then my cousins on my dad's side went to Michigan. So your cousins on your mother's side Yes all right With all due respect. They're not as smart nice. They're not hottest sharp and other smart uncle all the time now. They're very bright very bright. They are Thanksgiving around the corner. James that you need to sort sort of covers until Christmas. I got some running. Yeah it is serious though. This is serious business like this weekend. And I'm sure again and Fans out there of Alabama Auburn and then Oklahoma Oklahoma state obviously Clemson South Carolina. That there's there are houses divide eight in state rivalries all over the country. Yeah this is this is one of the top ones here. This is big in Michigan. State's huge I remember when I went there as a freshman circle came great guy uncle bill and he came to take me to launch and I sat down with him very cocky confident. Eighteen year old and I said Uncle Bill. We are going to win in four years in a row against Michigan State. Okay and if we do you only dinner and vice versa and we won. Somehow we won every year I was there. Is that right. Yeah send you back. Yeah I know although you've finished up the Lloyd Carr Years Right. Yeah Lloyd Yeah so were you at the Appalachian State Game. No that was after you graduate graduate we gotTa send you back James. I'm the honestly that was clearly we found we found. Ah Lucky Horseshoe here yet. That was rough. What changed everything That changed everything. Because that's soured so many people in in the alumni base on Lloyd the even though he is a legend yeah and things just went downhill and then eventually he did get you know re- replaced right. There's one the one way to put it right going out the door. He beat urban. Meyer and Florida with Chad Hanna. Going five while he went out the three yard cloud of dust they went five wide and beat urban and Tim Tebow look it up. That's how Loyd car went out the door. He was a great question. Here's a great coach. I know yeah so Okay What did you did you Take up acting on the campus in Ann Arbor. Did you do that. Yeah I came into the University of Michigan and and I was in the The school music there so I got a bachelor in fine arts in theater okay And studied English. And that's the great thing about Michigan is it's just such a great We could talk about Michigan bits. It was great because you can take cl- if you're a BFA you could take sciences and English are so I got a really nice nice well rounded education but I studied acting when I was in college. Okay and I did I worked for the student newspaper. The Michigan Daily Michigan Daily. Did you work for two. I didn't but I read it. Okay great great. Page of my column was called. Get Rich Quick Nice. That's what it was because that was my snappy. That's how I got my awards Chris Way back in the day Chad Henny had three hundred. Seventy seventy three yards enact a right and they beat Tibo in urban ahead in the orange bowl right correct not enough citrus. I knew it was some sort of Some sort of forty eighty one thirty five. Wow as they went out the door rich rod was standing on the sidelines. Ford a ranked nine that you see God loved Lloyd Carr. He's a good man and his whole family is to the Chadtough Foundation in In Ann Arbor people should look it up. Give all your if you want to donate money to a great cause for for Pediatric Yeah Trich Health that is the one for you to also check out James Wilkie on the rich Eisen show okay so now. Let's talk about your career. What was the what was what? Would you call your biggest break in your career James well the first thing I ever did where I was able to do. Some real acting was It was about a year after college college and I went in for a film It's true story about a guy who had to read syndrome called front of the class and I ended up playing. This guy's name was Brad Cohen out of Atlanta Georgia. And that kind of was my entry into into the business. Okay that's the big jump as you go from being on a stage in college to graduating and going like how do I get paid for this right or get anyone to pay attention. And that was the thing that I knew I could don't make a living doing it right exactly and so Then Madman Billions Goliath. I mean you you have worked on some great television. Shows now watchmen and I do want to Kind of jump around a little bit here. What is it like being on something with a rabid fan base? That is no doubt combing through every free detail of your show to make sure you are being faithful to what they believe needs to be hewed to completely what what is it like for you yeah Yeah because watchman is obviously based on the graphic novel watchmen you know the thing that takes the pressure off for us. Quite frankly is that Damon Lindelof the Creator. Basically they said look. This isn't watchmen graphic novel. This is watchmen and it set twenty years thirty years after. What took place in the graphic novel? So it's kind of to use his his words a remix on it so we don't feel like we're exactly creating these characters in the exact age that they appeared in the graphic novel with all the chronology of those events. It's set in present day kind of dystopia in the United States with the president. Being the president being Robert Redford Richard. Nixon was the president for thirty years and and then and then Redford got him out of office and now Redford. Is the president in our show. President Robert REDFORD president. Robert Red Ladies and gentlemen allow. Okay Yep a river runs through it So I think that takes the pressure off is that you go like all right. Well you know. Let's let's just roll with it and you try and just bring as much honesty and integrity. You can to the scripts that Damon and his team are writing right And the good news is I think the fan response has been pretty solid. I think they want the ratings have been obviously through the roof one metric in which to measure measure weather fans are digging it or not but we also don't know your character You play Republican senator named Joe King Junior from Oklahoma where this is taking place. We don't know if you're a good guy or bad guy just yet and I'm wondering Working whether you could tell us so senator keen and to talk about the graphic. Graphic novel Scher Keen. Is the son of this guy. Name Senator Keane who appeared in. David givens watchmen or the original on the came out. Yes years ago and he outlawed vigilantism. which is the whole thing behind the the graphic novels that superheroes can't be superheroes anymore and They're kind of in hiding and trying China do it legally and so I am his son and you know when we meet Senator McCain Joseph King Junior in the show you know he's incredibly ambitious some political and he comes into the folds And you meet him and you know him as this this senator. Who's has daddy issues? He's trying to surpass where where his father was. As a senator. He has presidential ambitions And it was really fun to to play this character because he didn't exist in the graphic novel right so I got to go all right well. Here's my version of this person that no one knows and no one could say. Well that's not true to the graphic novel so there's a lot of creative license for me. And what can you tell fans about what the hell's happening in the show right now so in the show right now. If you've been watching I think the fifth episode going to air this Sunday nine eastern nine eastern. HBO There is is a death that takes place in in Tulsa Oklahoma and much like the graphic novel it started with the death and the mystery that surrounds is it. Our show starts in a very similar way. And you go on this journey with Regina kings character Trying to figure out why this is person was killed. Who did it? And what was their motivations and everyone in the show is trying to figure that out. And it's incredibly important to my character senator keen And because he's very close with the man who was killed to find out why this happened and It's just a wild ride man and one thing I would suggest actually yes because my parents are watching it and they go like I really like it. You know. But I'm a little confused on this thing so I sent them an article. Okay I think it was entertainment weekly. It said the five things that you should know about about the graphic novel to fully wrap your mind around the show. You don't need to know them. I think it would. It would just give you a little bit of a background. If you're going to check it out. Did your parents ever watch lost. Did they ever watch that. Show you know what my parents didn't watch loss but I did. Yeah so you could basically say look. There's something called smoke monster. This guy wants created. I don't know where the hell all this going right now. The master of keeping you guessing Damon. I know unbelievable. I know and you don't know sometimes when what what's real what's not or what you know. What is really happening? And yet It's really great watchman. Sunday nights nine eastern time on. HBO and again. This is a hell of a cast. I mean who have you been in On a show with you on the show with a ton of people mad. Yeah you're like the kid in Ann Arbor would be like come on on a show with this person. I mean mm-hmm Yeah I've I've had some mind blowing experiences and especially right out of college formative years too. I worked opposite. Sit You know Jon voight in a show I did back in two thousand ten which was just basically two years after graduation. I remember we were working together. And someone said we should go and watch watch Is it homecoming. It's homecoming coming home coming home. Excuse me yes coming home. Just watch coming home and I watched coming home in the middle of filming filming the pilot episode with him. And I shouldn't have done that because I was so nervous to act opposite him after I watched that because he was so pure so real and that I think he won the Academy Emmy Award. They they could've told you midnight cowboy to yeah I mean he's unbelievable and I. I had that experience I worked with Robin in his TV show Kind kind of return. After Morgan Mindy show called the crazy ones together with Robin Williams. Yeah and I got the Improv with him KamAZ. A pinch yourself moment everyday for year. I got to Improv with him. So it was amazing. Did you ever As out four times I mean I could not imagine like I mean obviously doing scripted with him in some like that but actually like okay. It's now your job. Just whole cloth with Robin Williams. Yeah it was incredible. I I still I still have those moments all the time I'm just going like wow. I can't believe I'm getting the joy and pleasure of working opposite this person. I grew up loving right. Watching Robin is a perfect example of that right. I mean in this gas to Again I don't want to give anything away but people who are in it Louis. Gossett Junior Lou Gossett Junior Jeremy Irons. Okay you know Everyone is just really. It's it's an. It's an incredible. Cast and Regina Regina is so good in the show. She's she's an amazing actress but She yeah she gets to be front and center right. She carries this thing. She carries a beautifully and she has such Grayson strength and She's really tightened. Well you're an actor of WHO's who's been in a ton of great stuff again. We're here with James. Woke on the rich Eisen show. And I don't expect you to know Jeremy Irons filmography off the top of your head. But if you had to name Gimme Gimme like two or three. Great Jeremy Irons Roles What would you name Jake? My God I just Here I'll I'll describe the movie too. 'cause escaped me because I just watched it where he plays the wealthy husband of the woman who gets killed clouds. He played Klaus von Bulow. That is in his in his his world-famous world famous role. What's the name of that film in Mount now see now. It's popped out of my head cosmobil-ace right right. And he won the Academy Awards that that's that's that's one. He's he's happier but everything that to the man in the iron mask man in the iron man. I mean it's exactly film but he's good in every reversal of fortune and man in the iron mask goes to versatile fourth of course and would you name go ahead Chris. Die Hard three. Would I name. That is one of his. Why not everything he does is is good? He read a phone book go. Wow that's probably good reason why I bring this up okay is about a year ago. Go I was The second guest on Seth Meyer's late show Late night okay. And Jeremy Irons was the first I and we went to New York. 'cause I was appearing in New York to do it right this guy on my guess who I'm on with tonight. I did not knew who the guest was until during our show. Right right mentioned Jeremy Irons and he goes ooh dot. I'm like no no no no. That's not appropriate. First first reaction to right exactly. I mean we're on live. TV radio just POPs out of your head. So he says that and then sure enough sure enough. I'm sitting in the Green Room watching him get introduced by Seth Meyers. Yeah he's been in such great movies as reversal of fortune and dot hard with a vengeance. And I'm like damn it totally undercut my position was there's so many others you could ask for that not that. And it's not even the best diehard by a long stretch not even the top two diehards. Yeah he's his voice the way his voice second. I'll go there one more time. Do you think diehard the originalism was a Christmas movie. Yes I do you know why you gotTa have a rationale. I don't have a reason. I'm taking loss after canals. It's on during Christmas. We're out the time James. I James Wolk. He's come on here with a vengeance agents At James Woke on both twitter and instagram watch watchmen every Sunday night nine eastern time on. HBO THANKS FOR COMING ON. Sir Have you bet. Absolutely that's James Wilkie on the rich Eisen show. We've we've got some phone calls to sneak in as a ton of people have been waiting and Chris. Are you ready to give mediocre gambling advised. Everybody sure that's called towing the line or tow tagging the line. I I was just GonNa do it tomorrow. Are you realizing could games. Okay pardon me. I just didn't know if you wanted to give gambling advice and that's all good now. Go take phone calls. That's next on the rich Eisen show. Hey Guys Brockman here. If you're experiencing stress anxiety chronic pain or have trouble sleeping at least once a week. Look you're not alone many of us do and I know you're you're probably searching for a solution lots of folks have discovered feels feels premium. CBD delivered directly to your doorstep feels naturally naturally helps reduce stress anxiety pain and sleeplessness. And it's easy to take place a few drops of feels under your tongue and feel the difference within within minutes if you're new to CBD feels offers a free CD hotline and text message support to help guide your personal experience. BEALS works works naturally to help you feel better. There's no high hangover or addiction. 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And guess who's been giving it away a lot this year that'd be Baker Mayfield man and I'm I'm concerned if there is a there is a milestone on the line tonight for Jarvis Landry. He gets three catches tonight about this. He will surpass the Andre Hopkins for for the most receptions in a player's first six seasons in NFL history currently is five hundred twenty. Six such catches are tied for second with ain't Tonio Brown. One better than Randy Moss. Three better than Larry Fitzgerald and four better than Marvin Harrison Jarvis Landry man bringing the juice. That's tonight not of expected them. I don't know man. I just think the browns do put it together. I sort of feel it. Yeah I don't I I. There's no real evidence to back that up and just so you know I'm going back and forth on the unlucky lock of the week right now on my head between two. NFC South teams right. Now give you an. NFC South is playing each other this week. So to enroll for the Falcons I need to I need to hear I need to listen to my inner self a little bit more. But I'm getting a feeling. Oh the other way to you. Box Against New Orleans that would be unlucky to even be very unlucky. Indeed yes I'm just. I'm I'm cultivating that cater to use the goodfellas phrase and by the way we didn't even get this during a two hours ago amy. Trask comes on uses. The great phrase called going to the mattresses and and she said she learned from a movie. I Literally Thought Okay Godfather permits and she goes. You've got mail and I looked over at you. You're like ah like a proud moment for you. G honestly is about to finish your sentence for the Godfather and she says you've got yeah. Yeah 'cause Tom. Hanks is explaining to MED. Meg Ryan his businesses. Going under the CI needs to go to the mattresses so they used it. They quoted the Gulf. Which is why I was like? I made a mental note. Ask You where in the movie that was I knew you would know. And if not you then Mary Brockman with No. That's fifty minutes and thirty two and by the way birthday Mary Brachman. Today's my mom's second birthday. Okay let's sneak in a couple of phone calls here on the rich. Eisen Show James in Richmond Virginia. Can You let's get you on the program. What's up James? Hello rich thanks for taking my call to make an hour just speaking to the call screen. I all the people that always always say you know I went to warm policemen and all that I appreciate all of that. But the reason why we go to war to to celebrate our freedom and he had the freedom to do what he did what some people deem as being disrespectful but he had the freedom to to do that because they fought. You're a cabinet correct. Exactly okay I'm sorry I should have brought James Hands but I think sometimes because we we forget that part that we do have freedom to do these things and protest is uncomfortable. What people do something that people don't like like it usually make uncomfortable so I'm just hoping that we can just get past that and just go on and just enjoy the game and they L. D. abilities that he showed when he was ball? James appreciate the call. Thanks for hanging on as long as you did. That's James in Richmond Virginia Buckeye Jerry whereas Buckeye Jerry Ben Buckeye Jerry joining us in Cincinnati. How Long Buckeye Jerry? I'm good unfortunately my lame a affiliate here. It does not carry year stay anymore. It's Okay Buckeye Jerry. I have to listen online and I've been out that one cancer. I'm glad that you are are you. Well you're doing okay going traction. Everything's going in the right direction on wood for you back Buckeye Jerry. I'm glad to hear we're glad to hear your voice. First of all diehard is not not repeat not a Christmas look how we can come together you and look how you and I could come together as one jerry on cabinet isn't America the land of Second Chances. That's what I'm telling you bungay. NFL everybody else has to let that go and give him and now the chance would you take him on on the bengals. If you come out you went on a rant. A while back about Nolan beaten the Knicks. Saudi you aw great answer ground beat the bengals out of me years ago. Okay I'm a Tampa Bay Fan. I'm not doing any better. But I'd take him on Tampa Bay in a heartbeat. Okay And what do you think of your buckeyes man. Well in Ben and then you bring that up on let go between Ohio State and issue again. Maybe ten years ago on that spot that you won't let go It clearly you watch I down you know what Buck I really appreciate. Our friendship You can say the word though. You don't have to leave out the an you'll have to say issue again right. Oh you mean that team up north. Oh take care of yourself Buckeye you take care of. That's Buckeye Juror. I banged the table. So Buckeye Jerry heard that spinning curve ball thrown the Mike Brown beat the bengals out of him and I'm sure he's not the only one tomorrow's show Peter Melman woman named a Seinfeld episode. He is behind it in a way. Rider Co executive producer of Seinfeld. He's got a new novel called Meas. Well he'll be here. He's a big giants Hindes Fan. He's going to help us. Pick some games tomorrow. Tucker returns to the Charlie's angels in theaters near you starting tomorrow. Jonathan Tucker will here is also great in city. OUGHTA hell You and he can come you and he can commiserate about the future impending loss of mookie Betts. That'll be great. And because we're fair and balanced I know have been you know I'm a Michigan Man. He's also Michigan Man but he would call himself Michigan. State man figured with Michigan Playing Michigan State and he wanted my children to be in Michigan. 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"This is fantasy football today from CBS. Sports Gov email us at fantasy football ed CBS. I DOT COM take time to dominate your fantasy league of Cheney and dots that's of injury updates for ya and J giant. Aw finally reason to go at JJ or should you welcome to the show. This is the fantasy football football today. Road tour presented by little CAESARS. Pizza for dinner tonight. How about ordering your favorite online from little caesars and using pizza portal pickup? It's the the latest greatest and hottest way to pick up a pizza without even going to the register. I'm Adam Mazer and here's what Ben is gone. Yeah yeah the. Jj News very interesting definitely. I'm glad that he's that he's landed a spot. I guess now it's spell three o'clock eastern On Friday I hope that this is more about Darren sproles Jordan Howard but Howard is nursing Stinger and might not play play this week. So we'll get into that moment. Let's do some quick news and notes and will read your emails via apple podcast and fantasy football. CBS Dot Com. We've got one regulators there's question we've got starter sit and trades and such and DFS We're going to give tips. And I Apologize I. My voice is gone. I'm sorry so you'll have to. I'll just let Ben Watch you do the show I mean why. Why would you have voice? You only do like seventy five shows a week right like in many seven shows seven shows a week plus radio so eight and a yellow people. All the I yell at everyone and might just caught up with me met. You must be the shut up. Shut the hell up by Matthew Stafford is out. We knew that was coming. Bengals ingles cornerback. Drake her Patrick Patrick. He's on I R and that's a good news for his opponents was doing a pretty good job or at least their pass. Defense has gone worst. Since he's been out. alshon Jeffery missed practice. He may not play. You're not going to start him anyway. But what about Nelson Galore would you have any interest in Nelson Agar. No not really I. I'm I'm not real interested in the in the passing game against New England. Jacoby said is going to start and that's good news and if you don't want Zach Paschal this week that's understandable. They get Houston next week. Not not the worst stash. Now let's talk about the Eagles Jordan Howard limited in practice tariffs rolls out for the season. And I don't think it's official yet. Maybe just has become official but last I saw was they were going to sign. Jj so I hope for the sake of this show. It actually actually happens by the time people hear this on Saturday. But what's your take on this J.J. I as a Friday afternoon was owned and just three percent of CBS leaks. Yeah I mean I think obviously obviously has some familiarity with the system in the team I. He's not the type of back that I go gung Ho for. He's he hasn't had a huge receiving role in the past especially while it was what the eagles basically the definition of a troutbeck I Alexander's will continue to have a big role in the passing game. And I I don't expect the. Jj would come come right in and be the lead You know so he might even play behind sanders or behind Boston. Scott on early down. I think he like if he suits up this week. which if if they sign him? I think it's a possibility. They could get him out there as quick as this week if Howard's out but I I'm seeing him as more of a direct replacement for Howard so so would you consider adding starting anything which age I think if you're desperate if you're in situations where you don't really have running back you WanNa look at him. You WanNa look at him as a guy who in the right you know. Gay Matchups in scripts were the eagles. Look like they might be run. Heavy Assuming Howard's out he certainly has fifteen carry upside in that type situation of this week. New England run defense has been its weakness. Mark Ingram ran all over them. Nick Shaw Shaw. Ran All over them. If you'RE GONNA be I think even Frank Gore had a good game because if you're going to beat New England you're going to have to run the football. So I'm really excited Howard's Howard's out. I'm very excited about miles. Sanders do you week one two days after he signs. Jj has a big role. Yeah I mean those are the two who elements right like one would like can here on New England and there's some indications as possible right but to does he have a big role and that's I I wouldn't I wouldn't trust it. I wouldn't trust in two days that he's GonNa play more I might use Mile Sanders probably will use them in a couple of leagues adamant in quite a few like. I think you're I have to start talking about mile sanders versus Brian Hill. You know miles sanders versus like todd. Gurley Joe Mixing. I think he's going to be in that number two running back range and you know this is what I'm going to say. I pretty much guarantee by the time either. By the time you listen or by the time you set your lineups there's GonNa be a report that says Mile Sanders is expected to get the bulk of the carries or J.J. is going to get some more. I will no more so so I feel I feel like Ben. I don't know that we should speculate right now. Because we don't have the information but it will come out that's my guess but I think Mile Sanders could have a really really nice game. He could be he could be the basically every down back. He's got that opportunity against the Patriots. Yeah no I agree I I of the two. He's the one that you'd be interested in trying to use it. You're right there probably will be a report to consider giant. We'd have to get a report that's like he's going going. He's because he's he's not even signed yet here. All righty so it would have to be like. He's going to play it. You know ESPN's Josh Weinstein says that. It looks as if Kenyan drake has moved ahead of David Johnson on the depth chart so this is a situation where I like as of now haven't gotten a report about Jj in his role. I'm starting miles sanders over over either cardinals running back you yet. I mean it would be. It'd be close for me. I think The thing I wrote about signals last week that if you WANNA find any optimism David Johnson. It's hard right now. But he did run a lot of routes Given the number of snaps he played and I I do think there's some possibility that he he transitions into more of like a essentially. Like what we've seen with Kareem Hunt In Cleveland where. He's splitting out a little bit more and they're using drake is more than ever now back. which is something that was is being floated a few weeks back to get chase Edmunds on the field? More to use edmonds as the running back David Johnson more split out wide in receiving role he could still have some receiving value. I think it does not really surprise me. Either that that we're hearing that Drake's playing have him in like the lead running back role. And by the way every time I say start Mile Sanders that is contingent on Jordan Howard missing the game which is not a certainty yet David Montgomery is questionable and trae burden and Adam Shaheen are out. Oh and Adam. THEON DEALIN is out against Denver so Dave Montgomery questionable rams very good against the run very good against pass catching running backs starter. Sit Torri Cohen Cohen. If Montgomery doesn't play I would probably play them. I mean the only other guy they have on the roster right now is Ryan all so Null could get some awesome run. PROBABLY WE WON'T BE COMING FIFTEEN CARRIES I think nor would probably work in but They just brought him up from the practice squad. I I think we you would probably see them. Lean more heavily on Coen and so I think I would use him if you know if it was in question so how many how many lineups you got. But I'm I'm sure miles. Sanders will be popular. O'Brien hill is going to be popular any players. You particularly liked or disliked this week for DFS hills one that I don't really see not as high of an upside I think and I think he's GonNa be on enough rousers that he's an interesting guy to consider fading this weekend in tournaments because Number one last week Atlanta was in a good game situation to run the ball a lot and it worked out well for him as he took over for Devante Freeman. They don't find themselves in those types of situations. There's a lot I think they'll probably lose at Carolina and then number two he ran nine past. Rossi caught a touchdown. But you're at nine pass routes to Kenyan Barnier's. Here's the number three running backs eight and actually think Barnard might play a little bit more in pass pass down so hill could end up being kind of tragedy you know running more than playing in the passing assing game. There's upside there. But we just don't know what his role will the sheep. Yeah he he's like forty eight hundred on on draftkings. He's a lot. Watch you broaden fan. I mean he's the last running back on Fan Duel I think he was fifty nine hundred. He's one of the last ones that you really can consider. Although I gotta be honest I don't know Mile Sanders. I think he's less expensive. I think he's I think he's cheaper than miles sanders But I but I would spend a little more to get sanders the power out. But he's so cheapie lousy do so much you've got JD mckissick and the same price range. And then after that. I mean you know like James Whites more expensive Sony Michelle. I like James. Wait by the way but it's hard to find running back it's GonNa get big work that's less expensive than than Brian Hill. So Do Y- yeah. I think he'd be a bus to. I'm a little worried about him. They can't run on anyone. Yeah and they're exactly. I mean that's what I was. GonNa say the Falcons offense is just not been very great for running back doc. Production for Freeman so just because he'll score last week. I don't I don't necessarily think we should I. It was a good situation for any production last week. 'cause they're out ahead. Yeah it's a good good situation. It's a great match up second. Most fantasy points allow two running backs. That's what Brian Hills facing the panthers and they have actually faced a lot of good run. Defenses this year so this would've been a nice week for Devante Freeman I think by the way miles sanders. Three hundred dollars cheaper than Brian Hill. all right so other guys on Fan Vandal. I I talked about this on the video on Friday. I am avoiding mark. Ingram is way. Too expensive they'll mitigate any pushback from Ben there nope no. It's a tough tough runty for Houston so yeah definitely one that I agree with their and I. I don't like if you start. Ezekiel Elliott and Josh Jacobs. They are eighty four hundred and eight thousand their third and fourth most expensive running backs. Do you feel like you need a great game from them. Or would eighty yards in touchdown. Suffice but you know if you spend that money on Zeke and Jacobs. Do you feel like you need one of them to have like two touchdowns and massive massive game you probably hoping for multiple touchdown upset. Jacobs is one of my favorite places the week though I mean I think a Oakland should. They're huge favorites. They should be expected to to control the game at home. They've been a lot better than Cincinnati this year. Run these been really bad so I I really like Jacobs this week. Presuming that his health is is all there because we're a hundred percent sure on that. Are there any other players you wanNA throw out that you like or don't like yeah. I mean we talked a little about. Dj Moore on Wednesday show. And I think he's a really good option this week against it lands secondary who's just been getting crushed by wide receivers and Moore's volume has been so consistent. He's very clearly there number one right now. I think this is the week where he gets in the end zone okay. True Font is expected to play in this game but they still has pointed out on a radio show. They still pretty bad against receivers with his before his injury. Let's do some starter set a DJ more is so cheap on faneuil to. He's less than Samuel. It's it's weird he's touchdowns I mean. They just haven't really adjusted all right here. We Oh apple podcasts. Starters sit just in from a small town in South Carolina Man I don't I only know big Charleston. Austin is is pretty big. It's going to be pretty big. Start Brian Hill. Or Coleman Tevin Coleman there and pretty easily I think with Brita likely out you know what will probably some rain Moser. But he's had a little bit of the issue as well so I think we'll see a lot of coleman in again similar situations as a giant. Josh Jacobs Ebbs Double Digit favorites should be a really good situation for running back production. Yeah and then you can send a flex question. Would you start Brian. Hill or deebo Samuel devante Parker I would go deebo Samuel I think as presuming that Emmanuel Sanders and kill are both out you. You know. It's a little sketch to be playing both the forty niners but it is a game where they should score plenty of points and be a little bit more uptempo have a little bit more volume because a cardinals like to play fast as well And I think samuels a pretty good pretty good sleeper this week from its F one not mclovin. No we've had him before troublemaker. He our start one Wide Receiver and one flex Allen Robinson. mclovin devante Parker and Ronald Jones one wide receiver and Affleck's Aaron Allen Robinson maclaurin Lauren Parker and Jones. Yeah I can't trust McLaren Really with dwayne asking QB. I mean I know I like the the matchup but I I just can't I think they're going to run the ball. Especially yeah I mean since Callahan's taken over the just love running the ball and I can't trust Devante Parker up against today the S. whites almost fault I I. I do still really like Ralph Jones this week but around. Isn't our Robinson GonNA get Jalen. Ramsey Champa Alan Robinson's a lot better than Devante Barcode. He's nothing but but Yeah no I agree. I'm not starting Parker. It's maclaurin that okay that I'm thinking here and honestly like maybe like none of these guys are slam dunks to me. So it's Alan Robinson maclaurin Parker and Ronald Jones were Rob Jones. I liked Jones because airings talked up as receiving role again. I wasn't that like he had a lot of receptions last week but it didn't a ton of Arauz but then Aaron said it can even expand from there. He's he's learning more routes. He's getting even better at in the passing game. So I like Ron Jones and I would play I you know you can make a case from a corner Ray Room for a quarterback pick one Matt Ryan Carson Wentz. I'M GONNA go. Oh Matt Ryan. I don't WanNa play once against the Patriots and for Flex Hollywood Brown or F. One why F. One half. Oh It's definitely. NFL isn't Brown pretty banged up. He had his yeah he missed practice. We'll see if he plays Obviously doesn't you gotta go McLaren if he plays. I think probably you want to go with him. Because I think in the Texans matchup you beat the Texans down the field. This is from berries as dear Dalvin Devante and Chris. Oh I thought hey good job. Good job twelve team. PR CHOOSE AFL. I'm so condescending. Like I wouldn't expect you to get I mean nail on the college. Yeah yeah well you know. I hate episode. I know a lot about FSU so Twelve NPR choose Affleck's Robert Woods Joe Mixon Mile Sanders enters Mohamed Sanu or Emmanuel Sanders. Who Won't play so most likely? Yeah that's A. There's a lot of pretty Reasonable options that we I I like the fact that makes him got up to thirty carries last week after previously. Never hitting twenty one. Switch over to quarterbacks I think he has been show for big workload even when trailing which is what they did last week. I wouldn't play him though. Probably over Sanders. Orson new news workload before. They're buying their last game before the by was massive. It's not just that he got almost I think one more targeted than Julian Edelman. He also had almost double the air yards more downfield he will legitimate number one wide receiver. Roll night game so I I might go some new against the eagles. I really like him. Okay it's not a bad option for me. It was it was either sanders or Sununu. I I was going in that game. Though Robert Woods is in bad fallback option either From Pixel Bend dear Amman. Dorsey Edgar and Ryan Tracker specs. Yes twelve team. You're killing it actually know those guys are from goodfellas twelve two movies star. Jd mckissick. Brian Hill or Darius geiss scout to be mckissick or he'll we just don't know enough about I mean I'm I'm excited as anyone to US guys but we don't know enough to use them I and the jets. It's are pretty decent run D actually for all their flaws. I would go hill. Yep Me too Christian Kirk Tyra Williams or Curtis Samuel. This is clearly against the niners. It's tough he's a guy like you know I'm eliminating him. That's the one I said. Yeah I I think he can eliminate him. I'll go samuel. I really do think the Falcons will get beat down the field even with True Fon and final question from apple podcasts. From from niners for Life Aaron Jones or Leonard Fournette rest of season four net. Okay I wanNA bring up one thing before net tough schedule tough one was scheduled talked over. Yeah you're right you're right. It's always schedule your. I don't look at the schedule enough. How's Your I love your always on top of that but You just have to love his workload so much more than we're not sure we're GonNa get from Jones you know. His passing role was great. When Adams Adams was out? It's been less so when he's been back in Melinda's pint half the snaps you know. This is not. This is really interesting because Aaron Jones has great schedule and for net has a UH below average one. And you knew Ben was GonNa take for. You might be thinking. Hey what's Adam than I do. I'm also GonNa take four net so I don't care that much about schedule. I think the touches are so catches you know the catches are just so much. Mark More Secure Leonard Fournette the PR machine just like Just like that Ronald Jones fellow. All right. Everybody let's do it one regulators questioned today and it comes it from someone who's name. I do not have so I'm in a sixteen team. Redraft League with the first two rounds as keeper rounds announce a playoff bound team. The commissioner made what appears to be uh totally one sided trade. Godet ice that I did you. You know that was so smooth. Totally one sided trade with one of the last place teams who needs a quarterback so the commissioners go into the playoffs. He made a one inside trade with a team that needs a quarterback in that trait that teams in last place. His Geyser her. There are literally no quarterback on the waiver wire so the first place team gave up. Aj Green Nick. Foles and Gardner Minhsiu and got back. Melvin Gordon and Jack Doyle. Aj Green Nick foles roles and Minzhu to the last place. Team for Melvin Gordon and Jack Doyle to the first place team the there are a few US feel like this ruse the integrity of the League. I really don't WanNa be I what as I have never towed towed of set short worked for Vito to just to- instead of veto interesting I've never vetoed a trade in my twelve years of playing fantasy football with this. Just seems like a ludicrous trade. Also why is he so mean to Adam. I can't comment on that last question but entertainment value. Why is this? Such a ludicrous UTICA straight. It's a keeper league. I mean I I think you're probably not keeping ancient green in the first two rounds but presumably the the last place team like. Are you mad that because they're in last place in last place. They tried to acquire a quarterback can be competitive the rest of the unusual. You don't see people get upset. Like teams are trying trying to be competitive so they acquired both the Jacksonville quarterback so they could be competitive. As far as a keeper's concern like yeah. They traded away Melvin Gordon and they added. Aj Green I could see Aj Green Bean. And he's probably not going to be a top two round peg next year. But is it. Melvin Gordon going to be for sure I mean I don't know I mean it's a little bit. That's fine the last this fine. It's IT'S A. It's a lopsided trade. I mean the team that Melvin Gordon wins but this is not. This doesn't rise to that level of hurting the integrity of the league that you agree with that right. Ah Yeah I do. I see the point. I guess the more I I'm dating there was like why is the guy in last place making this troy because he's not going to keep any of these players right. so He's giving up. Melvin Gordon to a top team and if the first two rounds are keepers probably not actually going to keep Aj Korean the first two ounces actually no way so at first I was looking at you know name Valujet Green. Maybe he's a keeper but he's he's really probably not going to be no so I guess you'd probably hope that if he was going to trade Gordon he'd at least get somebody back that he could potentially keep the first two rounds but if he needs to win. I mean let's forget about the keepers for a second if he needs to win and he's still not mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. I mean he probably would rather have Melvin Gordon but he needs a quarterback so he just Jaguars geisen maybe. Aj Green comes back and actually contribute so there this is not as slam-dunk terrible trade need. I think you gotTa let it slide. And don't toe it. Thank you very much for your email. We got more trades and starter. artor sit at fantasy football dot com. We're done regulating. I just like to hear the song. Hey have you ordered a pizza from little caesars yet. If you haven't you've missed you're missing out on Pizza Puerto Pickup. What Pizza Puerto Pickup? It's like getting a pizza right out of the oven yourself. You Walk in you. Enter a code on the portal door opens. And you're off with your favorite pizza Sir and whatever pizza you order. It's going to have crazy crazy amounts of toppings. It's fun give it a try but it's only available at little CAESARS. Pizza Pizza all right trades fantasy football. CBS Dot Com from Zach. I got offered and a half. Pr Leak my Tevin Coleman for his David Johnson give up. Kevin Coleman get David Johnson. What do you think I would not do that? I mean freight is banged up. Now we don't don't know how much time he's GonNa Miss. I think Coleman is a aback you can rely on David Johnson. You can't right now. Yeah it's it's sad. I Have David David Johnson in a tunnel leaks us. One of my favorite first round picks. And it's really hurt Myanmar officers but there's not a lot of upside with that right now knowing that also the chase. Edmunds is going to be back eventually. In there it's it's trending very poorly aright fantasy football at. CBS Dot Com. Let's get to another one here. This is from Luke Dear David Joe Lou and dusty those are managers for the Cincinnati reds. Wow good for corey Lou pinella and Dusty Baker all reds manager. David Daniel Bell. Yeah that's that I am. That is really terrific stuff. That was more impressive than your Phantom Jeopardy win congratulated I was offered Amari Cooper and Philip Lindsay for my Leonard Fournette and Keenan Allen in a PR league give for now and Cooper and Lindsay. I'm not GONNA do that. I think Alan will bounce back. I like Amari Cooper a lot but I don't see them as being as big of a difference as I think for net is an improvement over linzie especially with no Joe flacco. We've talked about this a little bit but it's NPR. It's GonNa Impact Lindsay's catches going forward. Lindsay's Ben good to now. I do think his rest. The the season is a little bit knocked down because flacco is no longer the quarterback. Yeah and you know what. Feel Riddick what the Hell is going on with him. Is he coming back. And I don't know yet heard anything but He was on I R and it was possibility locked back and they can only bring two players back so that's first time I've heard that name in a while they actually do have good matchups going forward. That helps Lindsey but yeah I don't do straight from Eddie. I'm having a serious issue in the league. We have been doing. Non FAB waiver waiver. Wire just regular waiver wire for fifteen years plus and after. I was mathematically eliminated from the playoffs offs. I told the guys that I wanted to bench my lineup to get the best waiver position. A keeper can emerge at any point of the season. And I wanted to give myself the best chance to win next year A- after an outrage in the league I told them I would start by lineup this year. But if we don't do a Fab next year I would use this strategy next year if I got mathematically eliminated so benching your lineup to get a better waiver wire priority to potentially pick up a keeper. What do you think give your opinions regulators? And it's pretty good so my opinion on this Eddie's is wrong. I'm sorry Eddie. I know you're loyal listener. I love you for that. But you're wrong on this one I I understand. There's like I have seen this and fancy leagues. I've been playing fancy for over twenty years. I've seen this fantasy leagues all sports. That people do these things that are definitely in their the best interest but when they're so extreme that they impact the rest of the League to this degree where. You're just giving a team a win that maybe is competing with the playoffs for Plath spot with the team that you beat earlier in the season and you're not actually trying to put up a fight at all against that other team. You're impacting the way that the playoffs might check out your your impacting who wins the league this year to this degree where you're not uneven putting a team out there that's like he can't stand for that and fantasy you there has to be at least some level of trying. Well that's why I I've I have never seen anything like this because all of my leagues require a legal lineup. Okay well that's yeah you should do. You should do a legal lineup. Make make that case and yes this is tanking and it's not good but I I like the argument for Fab certainly makes things interesting. When you get to keep her aspect in there and saving in your Fab for for guys who show up like that I agree with that but just like to reiterate like I've seen like you've never seen this in any kind of league. Were like people that are obviously in the interests of their team. But it's like so bad for the League if they just you know. Here's the thing I could be Having more fun playing fantasy I need to be more fun leagues because all of my leagues or most of my leagues are analysts leagues. And that like most the fifty leagues right right. They take it seriously. I mean they set their lineups. But there's not that much trading going on we don't always know each other. I don't have one of those longtime Li. I don't I don't have any friends skin Zad. Let's move on Okay Eh. From Connor who should drop to pick up a tight end for this week Shawn McCoy. Let's Avis Murray Kenyan Drake Jacob Hollister Alexander Madison Senator. Adrian Peterson For me it'd be McCoy. Peterson Peterson. I don't know when you're really gonNA love using 'em with guys is being around the rest of the way McCoy like I. I don't know what the deal is with the rest thing last week while to see coming up this week but he only played six naps a week before four so was he really even need. I just kind of seemed like a week before was that the Wiki fumbled. No that was the week before that troubled. In like the end of the third quarter and David Williams played the whole fourth and then the following week he started again McCoy but only played six naps and then a week after that. He's as an active for arrest week that he shouldn't have needed since he only played six maps the week before. That's a long long little vacation. Okay from Sam. I haven't done it yet yet. But I got offered tyreek Hill and Jared Goff for my Lamar Jackson and Christian Kirk. My quarterbacks will be Wentz and gough the the rest of my lineup will be Chubb. Aaron Jones Vont they atoms and tyreek hill. That's pretty good. So would you give up that quarterback. Would you give up Lamar Jackson and Christian Kirk to get tyreek. Kill and Jared Goff. Yeah I mean this is tough. Lamar Jackson is a difference maker. I'm always the you can trade quarterbacks guy at this point in the season we can feel very confident at that. Lamar Jackson is a difference maker. So it's not as easy at this point but tyreek hill is a massive difference maker to and like Chris Rock as well but Terry kill might be the wide receiver the rest of the way. I really believe in him so I would take a hill and I would stream quarterback or play Wednesday golf. What whatever you gotTa do a quarterback to have hill in your lineup? They're going to be very few weeks. where I feel? Good about Jared Goff. I know he's got a matchup against Arizona but for whence after this patriots game. Maybe there's is one more tough match-up things do get a lot better so you could feel. I wish we had Sean Jackson I do but you could feel better about once going forward All right we got some starter said questions to show Chang said does Shawn Oh Jackson you wish Wentz had sean. Yes yes. I'm sorry. I wish he had to Sean Jackson even with the gray matchups. I'm not convinced he's going to be able take advantage of them but he does have a very good schedule go. I never realized this but I thought you're still talking about the trade and I thought you meant to Shawn Watson or Lamar Jackson Jackson and I thought you were like GM their names together. Sean Jackson is an entirely different player. Do the trade is basically what we're trying to say and If you need any if you're out there you got a business. You need higher good talented people. You don't know how to do it. It's intimidating a lot of people a lot of applicants out there. Why don't you use ziprecruiter? Hiring can be a challenge as quotable. co-founder Gretchen hubner discovered Gretchen needed to hire a game artists for Education Tech Company. And she knew it wouldn't and be easy to find someone to grow with her team. That's why she went to Ziprecruiter. Ziprecruiter doesn't depend on candidates finding you. 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I am the kiddle owner I snagged OJ Howard in Pr League. Should I play Oj. Howard or Ross dwelling I would go with Weli? I liked dweller this week man. He has been playing in a lot of snaps with kindle out the both last two weeks he got seven targets last week. They did throw a lot more last week. But it's a great match up for him in the Need Pass catchers Howard I've said before I really like his talent? Four of his catches came on the two. The two minute drill drive Excuse me three of his four. Two minute drill drive right before halftime in the first half and he was otherwise kind of just not really involved throughout the rest of the game so it was nice to see him do some things and catch a touchdown but I wanNA see more. I feel more comfortable streaming dwelling all right next email. I I don't know this greeting. I mean I've got most of it from Western Oakland. Hey Jamie this jared blank baker and cuyler. So these are quarterbacks who went number one overall yes. The last five number one overall pick so who was in between there James Jared Baker and cuyler parking we think of it wasn't Cam Newton. Now he's earlier. It was the year trubisky went to was myles. Scare the number one overall pick. Well that doesn't fit. That is. Oh it's just the last five number one case not just contract quarterbacks. I don't no no. Oh Yeah Yeah it is myles Garrett and he said you WANNA guess who that blank is. It should be easy after last night's brawl. I mean football game okay myles Garrett Way to go oh west way to promote myles Garrett you are on fire. They're very proud of you okay. PBR star running back in to flex so pick the running back. Mark Ingram Joe mixon James White. P P R yeah man it makes you almost WANNA go white but I think he will ingram for a little little bit man. I don't know this is a tough one for me. Mick Ingram's in a tough match-up I liked mixon's at increase in usage. I think you can consider him in. A matchup with the raiders. White white might be the safest As PR guy in a tough rushing matchup for New England. I do think what's going to be involved. I have good. He's well I'm going to start at least two of them. I'M GONNA I would take Ingram lynnfield great about it but I would go with Ingram because he just has that chance to score. I really don't like Ingram this week. Yeah tough but I would go out has been a more efficient runner than most backs in the league. Because of the presence of Lamar Jackson maybe he can find more holes against against Houston Grundy than most other banks have. And then you can still start Two of them. Because you need to flex out of mixing James White Jamison crowder and Dede Westbrook. I Love James Powder this week I you you do. Yeah Yeah Yeah I do too. I was GONNA say play him. I don't think I would play Dede Westbrook quite yet WanNa see how healthy he is. But I think I'd go crowder an intuitive axe but man. I don't even know what to backs I do like. I don't know why so. We decided we're redoing Ingram. I think Ingram crowder and white and I'm not happy about sitting mix. Oh sorry I thought you were going to pick another one. Thank you S. for making us sweat from Max in New York City dear. Todd Dak Alvin and SAQUON. These are the last four rookies of the year often ago. Who Do you think's going to be V? Who Do you think's going to be next? The Josh Jacobs well Cuyler cuyler but Jacobs has been doing well enough that I think he might get it. Yeah maclaurin got a case Daniel. Oh Jones happier. Start to that. A three mixing Gallup Golladay. I'M GONNA make a Gallup Allah with Stafford Out Golladay scored last week. But that long touchdown was pretty much all is production with driscoll under center his situations. Not Quite as good with with with Stafford out. It's it's a lot worse. OJ Howard Gerald Everett. Who Ever? It's a little banged up. Go Go Howard boom effort. Yeah like ever. I don't like the rams this week I just don't like the rams really all the offensive line is is so banged banged up and they've really been struggling lately and they're playing the bears. It's not a great situation. All right here we go. This is from Raoul in a town. North of Disneyland and Santa Something Disneyland Senile. Santa Something Santa Barbara Glorieta. Okay Santa Claus because I've got too many players to pick from. I need to wide receivers two running backs and a flex it is not so here. Are The wide receivers mix like there are only two. He's they're spread out Mike Evans Portland Sudden Emmanuel Sanders. ENTIRA Williams I will eliminate emanate sanders. Evans Sutton Tyrell Evans. And Sutton for me. I actually think you can play tyrel over sudden. Let's go EVANSTON TYRA era two running backs. Mark Ingram Alvin Kamara Devon single TERI Jordan Howard Kenyan Drake Alvin Kamara Yup I'll play single terry against Miami over Ingram. That's a guy that I would play over and over. You know we were talking about some concerns about Ingram and a flak lebaron single in a flex. Drake is interesting as PR. You gotta go with three running backs. Let's go ingram now. Ingram Chimera Single Terry Evans. tyrell yeah. Well that's that's what I'm GonNa lock in from Eric Hunter Henry or Allen Robinson. PBR Robinson. No sorry Hunter Henry. I wasn't even actually really like I love out so quick to answer. No you can go. You can go entrepreneur. You're like yeah I don't like what you think it with Derrick Henry because we can't really say even though he's on his by I don't even know who I thought it was. I can't even tell you what apparently like you like Robinson. That's very funny. Funny you but Hunter Henry would you sir. I don't WanNA bully you. Would you really hunter Henry would. I wasn't thinking I mean maybe I read hunter. Rain wasn't realizing just how good he's been lately because he's been way better than a typical tight end. Volume has been really consistent Maybe I was just thinking tight end but glossed over quick all right. We've got a few more from Nick. New running back standard scoring Brian Hill. Damian Williams Royce Freeman dairy guys not Freeman and for the issues with FLACCO that I've been talking about. I Love Freeman Talents. But he's not a guy I I'm just not targeting those back anymore because they're splitting work and no longer have as much work It's not guys so it's Hiller Williams. I'm GONNA go Williams From Jordan deer turkeys stuffing potatoes potatoes and gravy. I think you can get this on. Yeah I'm going to rank him though I he's nothing what hold on. You need to tell me. Is it. Mashed potatoes sweet potatoes. They already got gravy. So we'll say sweet potatoes for that the gravies like a part of the Arabia's separate the how what I okay number one is ranked both potatoes. Okay okay so this would be sweet. Potatoes stuffing Turkey mashed potatoes gravy. That'd be my last. which is a surprise is? I don't really like Turkey very much but I'm also not a huge mashed potato guy gravy. I don't need you over gravy. I don't need it you know if you have a good good slice of meat. You shouldn't need gravy. You shouldn't condiment. I mean that's true of like a steak. That's not true of Turkey if it's good if it's good juicy slice of Turkey you should not be gravy. I like Turkey but these are all like really delicious eating and I'm GONNA put Turkey last on this list. I usually usually a meat guy but turkeys. It's kind of like the dry part of the meal. You DO WANNA get some gravy on their mashed potatoes would be lies for me. I don't know Turkey stinks. Man Like Ham. I am all about the Thanksgiving him. I Miss I miss. I miss her home for Thanksgiving. They don't do they'll do him up here with the in laws all right. Sixteen Team Keeper League. I find myself staring at the waiver. Wire menu of Driscoll Finley Haskins and Allan. I'm guessing this or three Allen's. Yeah it's gotTa be Brandon Allen. I could be column well. Well if it is. It's clearly kyle. And you should go with. But if it's Brandon Allen. was you go drinking threes quarterbacks with that last name driscoll go findlay Haskins or Brandon Allen. Who would you go with? I'll go driscoll. He's got a lot of mobility. I think it phillies in play too. But I'll go driscoll. Ah I just think there's a little bit more rushing upside there. You Know He. You'll do some. This is from Mike he says. Dear Mike Peter Micky and Davy those like Brady Bunch or the monkeys the rockets doc. Those are the monkeys monkeys. Knew it. Damn it they be Jones. Ten Team League. Sit One one of these guys Hopkins Evans Jacobs Keenan Allen or Melvin Gordon. uh-huh actually call for me. It's an easy call for you. Yeah I don't know that I'm going to get it right but I see these guys and I see Kina now and I'm just like no. You're you don't make the cut against Kansas City. Well who UNICEF. WHO YOU'RE GONNA sit Hopkins Evans Without Lattimore Jacob? PBR Against Kansas City is is pretty enticing. He's probably GONNA get a lot of all right. Tough guy who you gotta start to look at all the matchups. You're not sitting Hopkins even though the Ravens is not a great matchup. You're not sitting Evans. Even now Marshon Lattimore is not a great matchup now. He's not playing. Oh so you're not sitting on sitting. Yeah not I don't think you're shouldn't Josh Jacobs so I would. I guess I would have to one of the chargers at I would probably wind up sitting thing. Melvin Gordon really the chiefs run defense all right okay. Yeah it's not. You might be right with Keenan. Elena's I'll tell you look I don't want to keep changing your mind. That's fine. That's fine. My Gut feeling says that Hopkins might disappoint us. But there's zero chance I'm sitting here right so let's run through the rest of your real quick from Dave half to wide receivers and Affleck's please James White robber woods. deebo Samuel Calvin Really devante Parker. I'm not playing Parker. I like pretty much everyone else on that list. But I think I'm GONNA sit woods current depot when I do like Calvin this week with with hooper out in Atlanta the trade Sydney. I do think it was going to have a good second half. I hope so from Chris Chris I have connor in Samuels is on waivers. I don't know why he had it's connor. Who do I drop if anyone to try and get Jalen? Samuels Jamal Williams Kareem. I'm hundred Todd Gurley. No Oh I'm sorry. I know why he told us. He has connor. I read that as Carson. I don't know why I saw it. And it said conor in my mind I read Carson. I Apologize I guess you could drop them all Williams that'll be that would be the one that I would drop hunt up girly just it like you know. Samuels is not even like he played viewer snaps in. Trey Edmunds in in place of James Corden last week. He's even locked in like lead back if Connor Mrs tiny made had a good point on. HQ It could be Benny Snell then. Farewell could be yeah. He might play next week so samuels. We'll have those role it'll be a PR thing but you don't necessarily here's a here's a great stat. He ran fewer routes last night or two nights ago. We're releasing the Sun Saturday. Then Trey edmunds. TRAYVON's actually ran more routes than samuels interesting. But it's weird usage with sales right now I'm not GonNa be like chasing him Madden Massachusetts choose. Its start three PR. John Brown Philip Lindsay Damien. Williams Curtis Samuel. Who are you sitting John Brownfield Damien Williams Curtis Samuel? I'm sitting Curtis Samuel. How about you? I'm sitting Philip Lindsay. Well you know it's interesting. I get where you're coming from there down. Two defensive tackles though which gave me a little bit of pause. But everybody's broncos are going to get. I mean unless the Vikings have one of those like kirk cousins overlooked team games. They're going to be way behind. Probably Right They have a fifteen point implied team. Total it when you do the Vegas odd addition trying to figure that out there ten point road underdogs. That's it's never a good situation for a running back. He split carries. I like Samuel's upside against the Falcons pass game. I don't see Lindsay's upside so I would play the guy who has more upset from Jason. Then start two out of three Marquees Brown. Dj Charge Robert Woods. I mean if Brown plays I want him. I've been really down on Robert Woods in this in this show and I just don't WanNa play any ramps and I understand the back at home but I think it's going to be really slow game against the bears. Bears have been playing slow games lately because their offense hasn't been very good and they're giving up a lot of rushing yards so I just don't mm-hmm and the way the rams offensive line is situated like they're going to be happy to get their offense off the field if they can solve the game down So I think I'd probably go markey's brown India from Derek half PR FLEX so any Michelle. where he moster Willfuller? Yeah we don't know fullish I health and I I think the guy come back from a hamstring injuries. Tough to trust but these other guys are great. Plays either Michelle running against a really tough eagles. The rusty is not really what I want when I want to use him. Most sort is banged up himself and his number two back. I'd probably play Michelle and I don't know where would you go. I would just hope for a touchdown because all the big game from anyone the best chance for a big game as fuller because he always says that that shot to catch a long one if we get a like a really great report clean bill of Health. I'll support you gonNA Fuller. Okay then grads thank you mad. You are just outstanding outstanding with the one more block. Yeah just nail key mother. You're listening to all the intros that are right now. We'll the marlins very sending towards lush. Wow thank you for listening to everybody. I hope you're having a great weekend. Listen to our show on Saturday night I on fantasy football. Aw Ten PM to Midnight Eastern C._B._S.. Sports Radio and Sirius Channel Tool six. We'll talk to you Sunday night with the retailer.

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Potential for Greatness, Best Stashes, Fill in the Blank (09/07 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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Potential for Greatness, Best Stashes, Fill in the Blank (09/07 Fantasy Football Podcast)

"This is fantasy football today from CBS sports. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Here's some combination of Adam Dave. Jamie Heath Ben. All right. We're just a few days away. He's Cummings. What is your level of excitement for keeps Texans Thursday night? I am so excited. I just can't hide it. I. Well, first of all, I do like it vital. Believe you. Oh No I am extremely this is an extremely exciting time. We're almost done with draft rep like. A Little Peek behind the curtain. This week is the most complicated I think for me at least because we'll try to maintain full season rankings through Thursday at eight. PM also create all the week one content that will create every week for the season and also try to offer some draft rep advice. So it's It's complicated, but it's exciting. I think it's very. I think it's a challenging week to preview to unless you're just going to go with like. Well, the players I drafted as the starter, the ones I'm starting. But if you're looking at matchups, you don't have that much to go off because things changed so much year-over-year personnel change of it's easy to keep up with the offense changes. We talk about those all the time, but you can forget about the defensive changes. A. Peek. Behind the curtain. That's good. Lead into like in my projections process. When we get to week four I will start adjusting some efficiency for players if they're playing what I believe is a top five defense or a bottom five defense, the rest of them I don't think better. Right now, the only adjustment that I'm making based on opponent is implied point total from Vegas. 'cause I use that for my total team touchdowns and that filters into the individual player touchdowns. So a good example is Kyle Murray the cardinals are not implied to score very many points against San Francisco. He was good against them last year and two games for fantasy not really for real life. And I'm GONNA probably going to be lower on Cairo Murray than you would expect because of that tyrod Taylor I think is interesting I wonder if people are going to start him against the Bengals, but the bengals have a very new defense they added a lot of players they could be a lot better this year than they were. So these are just the types of things you have to consider where did you do your rankings yet? Yeah fully one hundred percent done won't change a thing until next week. Yeah Rights. That's like I. Know I run of the rankings is done another good thing that we can tell people that I. so I won't have to address this throughout the season not on the podcast I don't think on. Normally. So it'll make it easier but my rankings when they come out on Tuesday morning and until probably Wednesday afternoon or almost straight projections psych I've not touched them at all and then I'll go through and and tweaks things and make them either better or worse. But yeah. So right now I rankings are pretty much my projections and I think cuyler Murray and tyrod Taylor are back to back in my recorder rankings aware in your rankings fourteen and fifteen Esi. Okay. Yeah I. Think if you if you draft Kyle you're hesitant to start him in week one I. Who are some guy? Ben Rothlisberger I think is a good guy to to get. You got like I I what I said in the quarterback preview is if you drafted Cuyler Maria compared cuyler Mary and Aaron Rodgers like those are two guys you probably drafted as starters unless you're in one of our leagues Cuyler Murray, I would probably still start. There's no one who's available and even thirty percent of leagues that I would start over him. Nam. Era Burger. Roethlisberger's like eighty percent. As of yesterday he was like sixty eight. I think. Okay. Maybe maybe maybe I missed that. Check Aaron Rodgers though there's a handful of guys that are available that I would start over him. Okay and he's facing the Vikings right so and they have a seventy three percent roster. Now Rothlisberger the Vikings are another team. That's interesting. They have a very different defense in they had last year and I didn't think their defense was all that great last year and they were like seventh in scoring defense. So you just kind of figured. Well, it's going to do a good job with what he has. Some of their defense is a team strategy thing. In what they are going to run the ball in play so slow that they will limit the number of opportunity offense All right. Well, we got Thursday and Friday talk about starter set Wednesday for your new to the show Thursday as AFC, home, games, Fridays NFC home games I take a little bit, take some liberties with that. Spread the Games out evenly on. The two shows Wednesday is actually the Thursday. Night game we do the Thursday night preview on Wednesday. So we'll break down that game on Wednesday show that chiefs Texans game today on the show we're going to talk about players that we should be stashing. It's okay. If they have a bad week one, don't give up on them. They're stashes Redo some fill in the blank. and. Let's start with this. What are the odds? This guy is great. Also on a tease, some news we have on the Broncos Backfield, the chargers backfield and the Ravens backfield. What are the odds? This guy is great. Aaron Rodgers what do you think? We're defining grade is like a top five quarterback. Sure Yeah. Okay. Well, I like I'd like to know what I'm saying well. I don't know how many great quarterbacks there will be this year, but you know like he was great. Wow. For the week one, I think it's maybe like five to one for the season. I'd say, maybe two to three, two one. Two or three to one. So you don't think it's thirty percents students. Okay. Okay. All right. What has to happen he just has to throw more somebody to emerge the number two guy. I think he has to throw more and like you would dislike this but we've had the PRISCO discussion before I. I think Pete's mostly right when it comes to fantasy value, he needs to not throw the ball away so much like take some shots into traffic and see if you receivers can make some place I have about won't do that. I think for a lot of quarterbacks that's true. I think Aaron Rodgers has shown I don't know if he's that same player anymore but when he's Aaron Rodgers didn't have to take shots to be great he was he was on a different playing field but maybe now Drew Lock. What are the odds drew lock is great this year. Very very little. Ten percent chance the drew lock is like a difference maker I don't think he's bad. I don't think there's anything there. s take a massive leap as a passer, and even then I, don't think he's GonNa come anywhere close to four hundred rushing yards. So very low. It's funny you WanNa sight pete prisco `Bout Aaron Rodgers, but you don't want to say p CRISCO on drew lock. He he drafted drew lock our draft today as his only quarterback. Yeah. Like that was planned. Right I I don't know I mean he auto directed drafted Lamar Jackson at one point auto drafted Josh Allen at a different point and we had to keep backing the fix out. So He may have just auto pick drew lock and nobody noticed no because I think he said drew lock is GonNa be a star but I I don't know if he was kidding or not. But I'm pretty sure that was set in chat but like Philip Rivers Rod Taylor Daniel. Jones Day Jones is still available. So, there are players that most fantasy ranker's would have ahead of. Of. drew lock. He wanted drew lock I'm fairly certain. So we'll see we'll see what happens there. All right. So not such a great chance for July David Montgomery. What are the chances David Montgomery is great this year. is better than Rogers and look I think they seem pretty optimistic was at practice yesterday I don't think it's Braxton in full by any stretch with the bare said, they're very happy with their running back room they cut the one of the guys that were on their bench that I can't remember his name I think Ryan all still there but he's really the only one with Cordeiro Patterson. So this may not be a long-term absence in. Montgomery. was someone that I thought had pretty good appeal and around six range before the injury I love it when I get him in around seven. or He moster odds where he most great. On a per touch basis, i? Think they're pretty good I I don't think it's very likely. They're going to throw him the ball bunch. They've got Jerry McKinnon healthy now. Kevin Coleman was in front of him in terms of pass catching last year that makes it hard and non P p. r.. I would say he's got about the same chances Montgomery and PR I don't think he has as good a chance when it was all said and done heath when you look at that huge group of running backs late round four to Brown seven. Let's say bears, guys, lions, guys, books, guys Ingram moster. With their single Terry, where there any that you ended up having a lot of. I was I thought. That's what you were going to ask me and I didn't have my rosters page open. So I was pulling it open to see not that I really remember. I don't think there's any of them that I like I have a little bit of Montgomery are a couple teams I have most onto teams. I don't think I have any of them on more than two or three teams, and that's kind of the way I like it with that group Well, I mean if you're talking around four throughout seven guys Kareem Hunt that. That's a guy. That's right. Yeah. I think on the same way except. If there are two players that I have the most of it's probably Probably, Ronald Josie, Andrea Swift, which was so much better a week ago so. So upset about that I've come out surprisingly high on Ronald Jones in my week one rankings, and that will change if we here for nets at practice and had a good practice or something but right now, I don't think for net probably double digit touches in week one I think there's an opportunity for Jones to do a little something early and I still think in the second half swift TASR. Seventy percent of miles sanders upside. But you don't you're not worried about the saints matchup for Ronald Jones and week one. If he gets fifteen touches than I'm going to have like he's probably going to be a top twenty five back. Okay. What are the odds? Any giants wide receiver is great. I mean if you're giving me all of them, then it's gotta be pretty decent not really. I still think like I. Still Feel and training camp reports for backing this up. That Sterling Shepherd is the clear Alpha number one in that passing attack he was Danielle Jones favorite target he was close to twenty five percent target share like if he gets twenty five percent target share and their defense is bad and they have to throw at five hundred and seventy five times than Sterling Shepard GonNa be great if he stays healthy. Brandin cooks, the Brandin cooks is great. I think they are very, very, very similar to the odds will fuller is great and it's disrespectful of Brandin cooks that nobody will stand up and say man, we should take this guy in around five because he's got to Shawn Watson and look what he could be but I don't want to do that with him either. Twenty five percent like I think it's a better chance that brandin cooks is great like wide receiver one great than any giants receiver for sure yeah. I don't understand what happened Brandin cooks. Last year you know I mean he's about to go Sammy Watkins and completely fall off and just not be that good anymore. It is quite the draw for a guy who was basically the top fifteen wide receiver. Three years in a row. I think it was every year except for his rookie year when he got hurt and last year five, hundred, eighty, three yards and two touchdowns on seventy two targets and yes, he had an injury, but it was a concussion. So he was not I'm not trying to be little concussion. Obviously, it's a big thing. A mentally, but it's not like. He was hobbling around on an ankle. So it's just weird. Well, I think it's really weird like I think you make a pretty compelling case when talking about will fuller that he really went to the next level in two thousand eighteen and that two thousand eighteen was awesome. There's nothing more weird to me than Willfuller is twenty, nine, thousand nine when he was over one hundred hit one hundred and forty yards or more in two games and was just awful the rest of the year. Yeah I broke this down. I think it was a targets look. It's not uncommon for a guy to have a lot of numbers when he gets the targets right? But. There were three games where he had more than seven. And in two of those three games, he had a hundred forty or more yards, and then the other game heath was the chiefs game and he dropped three touchdowns in that game and it's interesting because you you tweeted out and I didn't want to give you a hard time on twitter about how this is why you should be excited about Willfuller and I just imagined like that's what my showing some WANNA video of Josh. Allen. Missing. Three wide receivers wide open down. The field and saying this is why you should be excited about Josh Allen Yeah. Well, I think it was a weird game. You know. So so that chiefs game at nine targets, he had five catches for forty four yards that was the only game with more than seven targets that that he didn't have a huge game, but he dropped three touchdowns. One of them was a deep ball. He could have had a third game with well over one hundred yards in multiple touchdowns. But then again, like you should be able to do more with seven targets, right? Look at weeks two and three seven targets for him. Forty yards fifty one yards, not that good week fifteen seven targets five catches for sixty one yards. So it's not that great. But yeah. I'm saying in this match up where you know the Shawn Watson through forty two and fifty two times against the chiefs week one I think you should be encouraged by willful where did he come out and your rankings? I I think? I have I haven't been head of cooks for week one for sure. Fuller is wide receiver twenty, four cooks as wide receiver twenty nine, I have fuller cooks and David Johnson all projected within one P pr fantasy point of each other like all right around fourteen points. What are the odds Henry? Rugs is great. Not, as good as cooks, but higher than giants wide receivers, still I think I don't know there's there's some talk now that because tyrone Williams is out there going to just move rugs outside almost permanently and play Renfro in the slot and I think that would be very, very bad rugs in terms of his target share and the types of routes that they he'd be running but I still think with his talent level and if they're gonNA use them creatively, he's got a a not a good shop and okay shot and finally deebo. Samuel. Who starts with the you know most of these guys that I. put in here whether it's quarterback running back wide receiver whatever almost all of them seem to have bad early schedules at least on paper we know how to plough it will play out. Now. Rugs is Carolina and week one. But then New Orleans. New England. Buffalo Kansas City. But deebo Samuel, and this what I talked about was Garoppolo, yesterday deals Samuels got the cardinals. I don't think he's GonNa get matched up with Patrick Peterson I don't think he's quite there yet the jets, the giants, the Eagles yet. The Giants Eagles have good cornerback sleigh especially, but and then the dolphins after that. But I don't know if deals that kind of guy that you have to worry about a great corner on the other side. So there's chance for points is is basically what I'm trying to say here for the for the niners early, what do you think dubose chances are being great I just WanNa to go back to the thing that we talked about before he had the foot injury that has caused a relapse in so many different football blankets. That's a scary thing. But before that, he had one game with more than eight targets or gaze more date targets last year, it was when George Kettle didn't play. Yeah. Really I a large larger percentage than you would like of his production came from some long runs he had fourteen carries and turn those into thirty-three three fantasy points. So you're you're saying not very high chances that. There's a very good chance and like unless George it'll get hurt or something I don't. They're just don't throw their wide receivers enough especially considering they just traded up to add wide receiver in the first round. That's true. Who does have a hamstring injury but yes, that is true. All right. Well that concludes today's round of what are the odds this guy is great, and probably this year's round of what are the odds of the sky is great. We have a facebook group that you should join fantasy football today is the name. The link is in the episode description or just go to facebook and search for fantasy football. Today we've got one of our listeners who was specifically scotfish bowling it trying to create this Casey Simmons I. Hope I'm pronouncing that name correctly maybe Simon's. Probably Simon. Let's go with that he is. Trying to put together a group of Listener Leagues where the Playoffs will probably start in week thirteen So you can sign up right there. If you go to our facebook page and you click announcements, Casey's got the post up there and he'll set everything up for you guys. And Leagues will be on CBS are going to be PR leagues, no money or anything like that, and just you know just have fun and compete against other people in the facebook group. So please check that out. That's awesome stuff and we want to thank Casey for spearheading this in for running it. He's volunteering to manage the day the drafts by the way are on Wednesday and you can fill out a form of tell to tell them what time you prefer, and he'll kind of match people up. The other thing I wanNA promote his our podcast fantasy football today in five five minute episode every morning this. So not Saturday morning but I think you'll get one Sunday morning so I think it'd be six a week fantasy football today in five, check it out news and notes the Dolphins Name Ryan Fitzpatrick Their quarterbacks I two games are against the Patriots and the bills and last. Year, he actually had good a good game against the bills a good game against the Patriots. But in both of those games, he had a rushing touchdown. So you know I just wonder like and this is probably not the case. But if he's terrible against buffalo in New England and they're already and then you've got Jacksonville in week three isn't that the perfect time to break to in? It couldn't be much. I honestly heath like. I'm not saying this to be. Dramatic or like Oh look at this guys. Take I really think the Jaguars could go and sixteen. I just think they're horrible and they they traded away since mid last year Jalen Ramsey collapse, Campbell. They don't have AJ boy anymore. They just traded away another starting safety. They lost a number of guys on their defensive line who opt out for covert and other reasons I feel like I'm missing a trade that they made. They just are to have such a bad defense and they already had a bad defense a. Crazy I, think they're just awful off I. Don't I don't think they're very like I. I think they have some pretty good players at the skill positions on offense specifically wide receiver. Yeah. Saying and Chris Thompson. When he's playing is a talented pass catching running back. He's been very good at that. And I think Menchu. Like. Gardner midshow. The reason I think it's unlikely is the same reason it is for everybody, but they get to play the dolphins at home the bengals the lions at home. The bears campaign they can't beat the dolphins in to US I start. Well that's what I'm saying like they play a lot of bad teams. So the odds are they'll win one of. No I'm not going to bet on gold sixteen, but I mean this team could not seem less interested in winning. And they had like, Josh Allen is really good on defense. Yeah. What do you if you have Gardner Menchu in a dynasty? League This is probably his last year starting quarterback, right? Well the find out like, can he go? I think. There are a couple of other teams that have a chance to be to win teams or maybe even the slightly like the lions could just be atrocious. Things could go off the rail, the jets Adam Gay like the team might Kodaly quit on Adam Gates if they haven't already. There are some teams I think that could challenge them. If Gartner Men's you could somehow pull off three magical wins. Then they probably don't have the first pick maybe it's not but yeah. He's got play well enough this year that even if they do go a quarterback, somebody else wants Mr right all right. So here's some backfield updates, Daniel popper of the athletic was on. HQ He says Justin Jackson will practice this week we've been talking a lot about Joshua Kelly. So we're going to talk about stashes good and he also I've kind of I was on Jackson earlier I switched over to where Jamie is he kind of act like it's still a toss up like he does not think it's a foregone conclusion that Kelly's just going to take the job from Jackson? One thing that was interesting Jackson played the first three games of the season before Melvin Gordon came back. He missed week four and he got it like a decent amount of work sevenish carries a game I think. But he did not have one carry inside the five yard line so. Bodes well for us and if it if it means anything, it's good for. I think the one advantage he has is he caught a lot of passes in college and I think they probably trust him to play on a passing down. They don't want to get into a situation like the bears doing before where to Rico ends in. You know they're gonNA pass and if the other guys and you know they're not gonNA pass, right? Right Okay. This is Ryan o'halloran from the Denver Post says it's a fifty fifty split for Melvin Gordon and Philip Lindsey he expects more receptions for Gordon and ultimately Gordon will play more because they paid him but it will be a pretty close split in that Denver Backfield. Well now you might think, well, how can it be a fifty fifty split on touches if Gordon's going to play more I, think Gordon's going to block more I also think you know if you're looking for that quote ticket and you're thinking maybe that's Philip Lindsey. He's I. Don't I feel like Viggo back to what they had. Last year of Gordon, gets her maybe a little bit more heavily toward Lindsey. But. From what I understood, the Lindsay's very small. So I don't think they view him as like A. Grinder like an every down back. I think that they have to limit his touches but if you get last year's Philip Lindsey around eight or nine that's fantastic. Right. But I don't think it has the upside of Madison born Edmonds. Yeah I I struggle with the medicine part of that. But yeah, I. I. Don't know if they'll throw it to medicine. Fair enough. Jackie Dobbins listed fourth on the Ravens deputy are. Probably, just funny like I'm expecting maybe tomorrow we'll say camakers listed third on the rams depth chart. Listen by week one rankings Clyde. Edwards. Layer was in my top fifteen running backs. Not As high as where we drafted him Antonio Gibson may have been around thirty or thirty, five Jonathan Taylor was same range I don't think I had another rookie running back on my top fifty for week one. Yeah. we had an email yesterday I was surprised by the answer. David. Jamie. Gave I think they kind of I think they may have backed off it was who would you start on week one Zach? Moss Marvin Jones. And I cannot remember the third person was. But they both said Moss I think it I. Really. Yeah I would definitely like unless we get a buffalo like that would be a depth chart thing that might matter is if we got a buffalo bills depth chart and Zach boss was on top of it, right? Yeah. But they had Lamar Miller in earlier this week. I. Think I. I would definitely start Marvin Jones over that. Moss, and Zach boss is in my top fifty I. Forgot Him. But just barely I think they I think they backed off of that but I think it was kind of a reaction I NFL referees are going to use electronic hand-held whistles that will be fun. And the Jaguars did did not allow they did not sign devante Freeman. Yet. He left they didn't sign him. So maybe they won't Siam. Who are some of your favorite stashes? Well. Guardian. Has the best stash of all this everyone's favourite stash sue segment. And I don't want to start him against the colts week. One. And Week, three through six he has a phenomenal schedule against almost exclusively bad pass offenses. So garment, you is my favorite and so is his teammate with us because she felt. Okay. What about an eagles wide receiver like regular Jeffrey? I I'm still really conflicted on those guys. I don't know like. I Guess Jeffrey would be my favorite, but I don't have a strongly either way. I think rookie receivers in general. How much are you going to give them? Well. It depends like if a guy's playing seventy percents of the snaps and just not getting a ton of targets I'm going to give him a longer leash if a guy's on the field for like how many peop- I wonder. What? Aj browns. Roster. Rate was. Like week nine last year I'm going to tell you I'm going to guess it was like low really low. Well, let's take a look at his game log and feel and figure out when people may have decided to pick him up. So three catches for ninety four yards and two touchdowns on three targets at Atlanta that was in week four he followed that up with twenty seven yards twenty three yards. You know what? I'M GONNA look he had a touchdown and week eight at that point Tannehill was the quarterback. Then he had eighty one yards in week nine on. Should have been rostered before that like by then. Okay. So I'M GONNA look in those weeks and see like week eight basically after after a six for sixty four on eight targets in week seven going into Weekday that was Tanta Hills I start going into week eight after that. What it was I'm going to need some time though if you want to go ahead and give some more stashes. Or talk about the wide receivers because it does take sometimes to rookie wide receivers it takes them time to get the playing time that they need and get to production. Yeah. Judy Liam Rugs, they're getting a longer leash than the rest of the group Rigor euchre interesting because they might have a chance at being like I on their team in wide receiver targets, but they're also not healthy. So I, think you have to be very patient with those guys Chenault I would give a month. and that's probably like the rest of them are probably getting some fun things similar to what I'd give Nikiel Harry this year. Okay sorry. I'm still looking this up really list. It's OK. War Jacksonville Stashes James. Robinson definitely stash. I stole that one from Shaggy but I thought he was going to speak up and say it. So I just said it instead. Let you take the Jaguars. Never. Want Stash. Yes. I. Think it's Really Nice to have divine zig go on your team so you can name your team. Divine intervention. That's that's worthwhile. Running backs to ashes like the thing is I view most of these rookies As stashes start them like the running backs I, don't WanNa start the week one too tight end Chris hurn and Mike Kazuki or guys that were drafted and you're gonNA look at one rankings and whatever else is going to have them but you're not gonNA WANNA start him. I really am, and this is what I had had been kind of going back and forth with Ben. Gretch. During the offseason by the way have an answer on On Brown. Brown. Yeah. Thank you the wide receiver yes. So. If you drafted Madison Pollard, Edmondson, you don't have the starting running back, just lottery tickets and we get to the by weeks whilst week four comes around. I'm just wondering how long people can can stash them, and even in we want is there's a huge performance in week one you need to pick someone up is that is that the player you're dropping I'm just very curious to see how this whole thing plays out. Those guys that level I don't think should be those are definite stashes Daryl Williams who actually might be started as a flex and week one but is kind of stash two. Okay. So Aj Brown Ryan Tannehill takes over Aj. Brown goes for six catches sixty four yards on eight targets against the chargers in Tanna hills I start. At that point. Twenty, five percent rostered. Twenty five percent let's see. Let's see where he was the following week. and See I don't really remember how many I can was drafted in. Fifty sixty seventy percent of leagues I don't remember. Yeah I'm not sure by, be surprised. He was forty one percent roster the following week, and he had two catches for eleven, yards and a touchdown. So and then he really liked went off right. So you had your chance to get. Aj Brown. Last year that happens I. Mean You could talk about stashes all you want but roster crunches exist and you have to drop guys and sometimes it comes back to bite you for sure it's tough. It's. A lot of times there's not really You know you don't know if it's a right or wrong answer. Especially when you're talking about like your handcuff. England. Right and that's why I would rather stash players that I think and this is a bit of a guessing game with a lot of these guys because we haven't seen them. But I would rather stash guys that I think are good because if they get the opportunity, I think it'd be great as opposed to just my handcuff who I don't really like that. Much. Okay Ban were there any others from Dave they wanted to let us know on more dave is on Paris Campbell as a stash. He is there a colts wide receiver that you're on? is a stash whether it's Campbell or someone else? I would probably rather stash Michael Pittman But only because I think he kind of profiles, the Reds Big Red, zone guy that could fill the Eric Ibran role if he hits. I don't I there are smart smart people who draft a lot of Paris Campbell I just don't really. I don't really get it. And there are people like me who who draft Paris camp was including you and. I you know for me. It's a little bit of group think maybe I see other people that I respect who are really in Paris Campbell. I think that last year I'm sort of throwing away Jacoby perset really had a bad year. So somebody else going to have to catch passes and makes sense for the slot guy. Philip. Rivers the United Slot Guy Makes Sense for Paris. I remember how hi Dave was on Paris Campbell coming out of college. Things obviously change with Andrew retiring. So I'm giving him a reset year. You know how I feel about sophomore receivers. He's one of my last picks he's really not taking. You're not taking him before Nicole Harry Right I. Am you are okay I wouldn't in a non PBR league I would in a full ptr league and a happy are they I'm not sure I. I'm not has there been any to kill Harrah's. Yes, there was some there was a period of man. He's been bad in camp, Muhammed Snooze. Awesome and they're like right when that happens all the reports from that point forward were area a good day. You'll hear Harriet a good day and then got cut so I just think Kerry I think Harry. And Campbell are similar obviously and that they were well regarded prospects coming out last year who basically had a lost year. I prefer Harry just because I. don't see as much competition for targets. Well, that's an interesting thing. Why not? Well, I think who throws more. They're gonNA throw more right I don't know like were they. I think the Culture GonNA, win a ton of games. We've talked about what they're run. Pass rate was in games that they were ahead last year but they threw the ball lot two years ago, and that was as had a good quarterback but their defense wasn't near as good back then and Philip rivers is somewhere in the wide chasm between Andrew Luck. Percents. Yeah You can. You can take your pick as to which one you think is closer to WHO throws more I think is a good question that I don't I don't feel confident in which. Who has a better quarterback which team throws for more yards because in a normal year if you could just race last year, you would never ever pick. Cam Newton to throw for more yards than Philip rivers. That's that's totally true. I have I'm sure I have Philip rivers throwing for more yards right I have But I have Jack Doyle getting a lot more targets than I have. Any Patriots tightened. Yeah. So I don't know the the people that. The A, lot of smart people. I feel like the sports people I know Jacob gives likes Paris Campbell a lot I. think my quick Laura's well. Yeah. So I guess some sort of. Anti him but it's kind of like the a little bit like the deontay Johnson thing only was a better prospect. And later in the draft. In the in the fantasy draft All right. We're GONNA take a break here. When we come back, we'll do some fill in the blank and we had a fantasy football today draft today it's our big Li. It's our big like work office all the people involved in the video show really fantasy football today twelve team PR draft. We'll talk about that a bit and we'll retiree meals a fantasy football CBS, dot com. We'll be right back on fantasy football today. Pay Friends. I met FRING and I'm Chris Hainer together we're the Russell Buddies a podcast into the fun parts of professional wrestling. It's a celebration of pro wrestling for fans of all ages even if you're just getting into it now new episodes of Russell Buddies rap on Thursdays. The two prominent topics that Face College Sports College basketball specifically in the coming weeks and months throughout the rest of the summer and into the fall of the resumption of college sports in what is going to happen with the NBA draft. I'm Matt Norlander Co host the eye on college basketball podcast, and alongside Gary Parrish, we are going to continue to give you multiple podcasts per week giving you. The latest story Information Analysis Scoops on win college sports can resume under what terms and everything you need to know about that in addition to NBA draft Intel and profiles for the eye on college basketball podcast on Apple podcasts spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Heath is already promised me that I have to hate his team. So much of the famous in the league I don't know what his team is so. I'm looking forward hated your teeth. Looking forward to it as well. I fill in the blank from the listeners on twitter from Garcia Blank Adam as for playing that set stat song stuck in my head and been whistling it all morning Julio. Listen to like times as we take. It so good. So good at I'd allowed people have it stuck in their heads so way. Razor way to go is the answer. Thank you. Applaud Enemies. From Havi bias, the different hobby. Bias. Austin, equil- be top five running back if he has blank receptions this season. Sixty. I was GONNA. Say Sixty five. So. I'll accept it. From Kevin Rossetti blank will be the number one waiver wire priority after week one. At a sad. That is a very good question like the I think the the most likely answer would be whoever gets the most touches between Z., Bo, and Robinson. So let me see Daryl Williams. Thirty eight percent rostered. He could be for sure because I wouldn't be surprised if he's scores touchdown yeah right. Yeah and if if they're gonna I, mean this could be the most carries. He gets all year in theory. Assuming. Helfer for Clyde ever dealer it other ways this could be maybe this could be the lowest snap share for cloud efforts all year is that fair? I think. So it would be very it'll be interesting like. If this works and Daryl Williams Clyde both very good with twelve to fourteen touches if it doesn't just stay that way for a while. Yeah one of the chiefs wide receivers are Hartman and Watkins Rosser percentage too high. He's one of them would go off on national. TV be a top priority and not perform for four weeks. Well. Let's check their roster percentage. Shall we because Hardman Sixty, one percent? Sammy Watkins. WanNa Guess. forty-eight. Band nine, fifty, nine, seventy, three. That surprise me. Personally ABS. Let's find out. Unfortunately Patriots and bills to start the season. Preston. Williams is seventy three percent just like Sammy Watkins. That's a stash for you. Yes. So I got ridiculed a little bit for taking Watkins in our fourteen team Pr League and. The. Only reason that you should take hardman over Watkins and fantasy managers apparently aren't doing that is a he's younger. But like. He did not have after week after tyreek he'll back. I think from injury I don't think harmon had more than two catches in any game or something last ten games on her he was so uninvolved when Tyreek Hilton play and then you look at Sammy Watkins he was their best wide receiver in the playoffs it was only three games. But I would take hardman over walk. because. I think there's more upside but. Yeah. I would say don't sleep on Sammy Watkins but I guess I was surprised that he was seventy three percent owned. So I don't think people are sleeping on him I, take it back Louis Casino it's GonNa make big garbage garbage time play against the colts. He's only twenty three percent rostered. He's going to be the waiver wire. Okay. Okay. There you go. Next up fill in the blank from keio the reason David David Johnson will finish as a top blank running back is because blank. That's too many blanks. The reason finish as top twenty running back is because they traded D. Andre Hopkins Forum. So they're not just going to run in between the tackles they're going to use them the way that he's best used. From Fantasy Gumbo, we'll we'll start off slow but end up as a top blank tight end. Thirty two. Forbade seedy. Marlin mack holds off Jonathan Taylor for blank weeks as the starter. Eight. Wow. Okay. From Bar city blank is going outside the top twenty four and we'll be in the top ten next season. Jonathan Taylor. From Neil Blank is the best quarterback wide receiver you can realistically draft. Well, I mean, Tyreek Hill Patrick Mahomes Oh, you can't. No. You can have. CBS If you have a back into the ninth pick, you could. More really like I love stacking the Falcons I was just about to say that Yeah Lee Hurst Ryan right sure. Great. Yeah. 'CAUSE 'cause Ridley's around three pick Hurston Ryan. I mean eight nine something like that. Let's see. veggie atheist Atta Mazer is blank percent match to Jimmy Garoppolo on ancestry. I said, I was a I said he was asleep her as like. A. Stash or something like that yesterday he is my third favourite streaming option for week one. So I agree with you this whole schedule though I mean he's such a good schedule especially early what is it? It's cardinals, jets, giants, or cardinals, giants, cardinals, jets. Garoppolo the only question is like with jets and giants. Are they just up three scores in the first quarter and don't pass again but that whole thing is like. You know you gotta get up three scores in the first quarter to get there to begin with and I think both the jets and the giants have. Worst pass defense than run defense. That's my guess certainly with the giants. And then like I don't know. Why would you ever start a good quarterback against a bad team? If that was your philosophy? A. First, off, we don't know how. Jimmy, up a borderline good quarterback I think I sat mean. More overall. Garoppolo but also well, it depends you would do it with the chiefs because they throw the ball fifty five percent of the time even when their head. Okay fine. But like are you going to sit Tom Brady against Gosh I don't know what his schedule is but against the panthers. Probably not I don't think Tampa Bay is going to be as I. There's only a few teams that I would. Really. View. That way. Okay. So the niners most I think China hills kind of the same way. Coach poppy a blank will be the Lamar Jackson of this year. Well, he said of last year but of this year there won't be one. Sorry I hold him hurries the the most likely candidate but unfortunately, he gets drafted like he's already done it. Can I say I really hope there's not a Lamar Jackson this year or a mahomes from the previous year I. It's just really frustrating and I think. I started this initiative you know this year but I'm starting next year everybody every fancy should be required to start more players. I'm tired of like one player carrying teams championships we get on the super flicks initiative and double the the lineup lineapp setup for the for the people. Super Flex and an extra flex yup to regular. Flexes one Super Flex. The Great John. Dean blank would be my fantasy football draft interest entrance walkup music. Plays All Sixteen Games Matt Ryan. Otherwise, I've always said if I walk up music is sue fighters my hero, which is really arrogant egotistical walkup song for me to be like I'm your hero but that's what it is. It is what it is. You. Know I like the one you chose word that the heat is on. We've got about this out of course. All right. He. Was the heath on the fantasy football today draft that we did today twelve teams, pr three receivers, and Affleck's how to turn out for you. This might be the only like staff league that we have that I haven't won since I started at. CBS. Today why that is it's always the last or next to last draft and I do what I did. Today. I think I'm GONNA draft some guys that I haven't. I haven't drafted yet. I did that in this draft. I took Chimera three and James Connor in the second round. Very unhealthy like start but I don't usually have a top five pick. Took, Allen Robinson and round three and Cortlandt Sutton and round four. and. Then it went a little bit off the. Show, like this team. Here's the thing. I have like assuming James Connors healthy. I have two top ten running backs. I mean or even in your top ten. Well I know. Of course not he's what? If he's healthy help. Would you would you doubt that if he plays Sixteen Games he finished opt-in? Well, if every store running, he will play sixteen. He will be a top ten back on a per game basis. I don't know that I think he's better than anyone being drafted ahead of him. And he's probably like Oh the thirteenth or fourteenth running back. But if okay look he's in that same tier. So sure I'll give it to you. I've got an eight than week one. So there we go a great run defense I'll ever go. For it. So. Yeah. But then I also have Kareem Hunt and Leonard Fournette on the bench, and both of those guys have pretty immense upside at running back. So my receivers are a little bit thin but I don't know Jamison crowder is a number three wide receiver in full pr he's going to be a number three wide receiver Robinson and Sutton are good one and two. I've got a elite running backs with fine receivers and Hunter Henry and Cam Newton. I'm just surprised. You don't have like a a top quarterback or tight end with this team. because. Okay. Here's this team Cam Newton and Gardner. MINHSIU and maybe maybe their top quarterbacks Alvin Kamara. James Connor. Allen, Robinson coralline sudden Jamison crowder. Hunter Henry and Preston Williams tentatively at flex. Sean Jackson's the FLEX WE'RE GONNA win week. Going to have four net net and Kareem Hunt on the bench along with Lewinsky Chenault Brandon. Euch into Sean Jack Yeah it's a really good bench. Very it's not like a shallow that you're not. You don't have like a huge hole. But. You GotTa Know Just Henry Newton Gra a very different than my team. Which is interesting because you just three receiver league CPR with flex it's not good to be thin at wide receiver and you aren't and I am. But I am thin and wide receiver because I have Carla Maria quarterback and Mark Andrews a tight end. Andrews was my mouth Pick Kyle was my six round pick. Am I I do picks replied Edwards layer seven overall in Kenya Kenyan drake in round two. I was surprised he fell to me there. I think are starting running backs are probably a push. Ever dealer and Drake Camerin Connor, I can accept that. My wide receivers kind of Suck Calvin, Ridley Michael, Gallup and Brandin cooks. There's upside. I'm so nervous about Gallup like I. Know I know really I love cooks I think is fine. Gallup is a huge player for me. He's could really really make a break white team. How very nervous about like I think you've probably got a high end number two in Ridley a high end number three in Gallup and amid number three in cooks but it's possible. You've got a low in number one a low in number two and number three like just. Okay it all three thoughts and then my flex. Early going to David Montgomery most weeks, but in the meantime. Paris Campbell, I guess that's my week one flex. You're probably Daryl Henderson. Right. You know if he's healthy. I don't know I don't trust for him to miss so much time. I don't know what his touch is going to be like in week one. Do you cal? Brown. Malcolm rounds the end of our bench altruism. We need them for week one, we'll take a look at trackers team. Paris Campbell James Washington they could be flexible but it's Kyla. Murray Clyde Eber dealer Kenyan Drake. Calvin really Michael Gallup Brandin Cooks Mark Andrews and then at Yuck Flex. And then I have the colts. DSP might win me week one at Jacksonville. Let's hope for that. As of jared, Goff Alexandre Madison and Jefferson and James. Washington. So It's an okay team people were mixed on it. Some people said, it sucks and people like it depends how you feel about Michael Gallup honestly because people love Michael Gallup. I think I like your starters more than mine and I like my bench more than yours. Yeah. I would agree with that. And that's probably because you took quarterback and tight end later. Right. Yeah. So you were able to build out some more depth. All right. Let's look at shrager bees team. We'll pick. Did you have shrager? Have the eighth pick a pick. Okay. Lamar Jackson, a quarterback, Josh Jacobs and Derrick Henry at running back so far so good. Amari Cooper Aj Green Marvin Jones at wide receiver. Austin Hooper at tight end. Mark Ingram at flex. You also have. Aaron. Rodgers Malcolm Brown Jerick McKinnon Mike sickie Anthony Miller deebo. Samuel. Good one. All. Right. So similar to me that you took a quarterback. Earlier than I did. But you know you, you have to running backs that we were I. Two Picks Right Jacobson Henry? And then you went who'd say Lamar Jackson around three took Lamar then Amari Cooper, who I'm not that high on. But in the fifth in the fourth round totally fine with it. Ha- have him over decay metcalf. Charq type of guys who left. Had Fallen on me but you took them like in this just shows you like. I. Think shrager probably has the best running backs, but we're all pretty close. He probably has the worst wide receivers. He has the best quarterback and probably the worst idea like you're just prioritizing what's going. Where you're gonNA, be good at. But it's not a bad squad at all and bits possibles the combination of hooper and could be better than Hunter Henry. And the Combo of Marvin, Jones deebo Samuel Anthony Miller I. Hope One of those guys can be a low end wide receiver to if not five zero three upside every week. members Cooper Doug. Heath Cooper Doug No. Yeah. Come on. He had the Christian McCaffrey email last year. where he broke down. Remember Cooper died. I couldn't remember his name was cooper was doug. So he's called counterproductive. I. Can't remember that now He. So he does like a lot of really good research and he did research on streaming wide receivers and he took I think what he did was he took the waiver wire column or something from last year and he looked at the like. If you took a wide receiver that was rostered in like ten percent of leagues or less, and wasn't a top five wide receiver in the waiver wire column or something, and you started them every week you would have gotten like. A number three wide receiver out of it. So he just had this, it's pretty interesting. I'll try to the best wide receiver that was ten percent. No like. Anyway receiver. Yeah. Hold on can't be that. No it was like like. It was based on I think James Waiver, wire column, and. If I can find that. Exactly. With specific guidelines. Damn, it. All right I will find it. I will fight him for the end of this episode. Let's read some emails fantasy football dot com from cody in Syracuse, Pr League, Tarik Cohen or Marlin Mac week. One. Did. You say whether or not? Yes, it is full. DOCO. Okay. Next Email Sean from a city with the third maybe fourth best quarterback of the two thousand seventeen draft. Is that true bisky draft? Yeah. So mahomes. Watson trubisky. Josh Dobbs. Now. Her there's one more. I'll tell you it was trubisky, Mahomes Watson to Sean Kaiser. Davis Webb CJ. Bathroom Josh Dobbs Nate Peterman. Brad it's probably Chicago and he's throwing shade at Mitch Trubisky. That's my guess. Okay. I'm the reigning champion, my dynasty league half PTR TO FLEX. We just had our rookie draft. We could only take rookies now for the waiver wire I love Damian Harris I could use some running back to f one hundred to spend on fat. How much did I spend to get? Damian Harris. I don't think so like this, if this is your very first waiver wire the year, then maybe you have to go a little higher but. I mean if you really really really love him, I still don't think you should go for more than like eleven, dollars or something. I. He's not healthy to start the year. It's kind of funny how this whole thing worked with Sony Michelle right because now he just looks like he's pro with a week one starter like we thought he was going to be two months ago. And there's no telling if he ever gives that back. From J., B. From a hot city out west. Las Vegas. Hey Jim Kyle said and Jay. KYLE SID and J. I don't know whether I. Don't think I know sit with a C.. Jim Yeah. That's what it says. Clue. Pr Super. Flex. I need to cut to players to pick up kicker and an ID who do you cut? Anthony Miller Zach. Moss. Jamison crowder Boston Scott. Ouch. Miller and Scott I. Yeah. I got the email from Doug. Okay. Good. So Cooper dog growth is great email last year by the way talking about why Christian McCaffrey was going to be disappointed. And he convinced me and I had McCaffrey as by fourth running back a largely because of his great argument. And use but the argument was this if you looked at McCaffrey in two thousand eighteen, he was something like rb ten before Cam Newton got hurt once Camden got hurt and was playing through the injury Cam Newton started running less and he's I think he started dumping the ball off to Christian McCaffrey more. So the thought was a healthy Cam Newton was actually going bad for McCaffrey because CAM would run more and with throw the ball downfield. We never got to see it can hurt his foot he barely ran he played two games and that was it and Chris McCaffrey was had one of the best seasons we ever seen he didn't didn't. He also send us one telling us why necker was not going to be good this year he. He wasn't that offer. Was not going to be good. It was his theory as a y.`all sackler is not a very good running back. and he I'm looking at that email right now too but he looked at like what he did against good run defenses and it was very bad. What he said about. Okay. I created a streaming wide receivers option for your second or third wide receiver based on the CBS waiver wire column to see where streaming wide receivers would actually finish among overall wide receivers in two thousand, nine, nineteen. Okay so use the waiver wire column. Spoiler. You end up with a wide receiver one in total points even with some dud weeks in their rule one for week one, I went with the wide receiver that was in the waiver wire column outside around twelve eighty, ADP. For, weeks two through sixteen I only use the weekly CBS waiver wire email no other source working from that column I selected a streaming wide receiver for that week every week I used the first wide receiver on the waiver wireless that was rostered in less than ten percent of leaks, and I skipped the first five names on the list. No matter what to ensure the fantasy player could still get the wide receiver without using waiver wire priority. Following. Yeah wide receiver in less than ten percent of leagues and wasn't one of the first list I five listed. if a player rule three of players on the waiver wire email the next week, they could and should be used again, it will be assumed that the fantasy owner or the manager already had that player of the week before. So week one John Brown. Week to John Ross Week three demarcus Robinson week four deontay Johnson Week five Auden Tate Week six buyer Byron Pringle. Week Seven Ron Brown week eight Alex Ericsson Week Nine Chris Conley Than Josh Reynolds James Washington James Washington Anthony Miller Anthony Miller Anthony Miller Greg Ward. Here's what that wide receiver would've done. Seventy three catches one, thousand, one, hundred, and fifty one yards, nine touchdowns. A great year fourteen point five PR fantasy points per game. Did Not miss any games due to injury obviously due to injury. In Standard scoring tied as wide receiver twelve NPR wide receiver thirteen. I know it's a lot to digest there but pretty cool research there. He picked up a wide receiver every week that was rostered in less than ten percent of leagues unless he able to just repeat that player the following week and finished with a top twelve wide receiver that was the crux of it. What do you think? I don't think I've had enough time to process this Zz and I'm hearing your interpretation of like I'm sure it's accurate. But I'm listening to you say it I don't have the information in front of me. So I I'm hesitant to going forward it to you. It sounds like Jamie. Did a good job on the waiver wire last year I. Think. So well, maybe his top five or terrible, but number six. Great. All right I'm. GonNa. Forward this to heath. Here's he's personally naps. All right. We're done for the day radio at him. I think it's interesting. Oh, you mean the whole forwarding, the thing. Is. Not. Create. All right everybody. Thanks for listening week one getting closer and closer. How will start breeding the game on Wednesday enjoy the rest of your Labor Day for Ben Talk Soon. Welcome to the nothing personal with David Samson podcast. 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Players To Target - 2019 Fantasy Football

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58:24 min | 1 year ago

Players To Target - 2019 Fantasy Football

"Welcome to the n._f._l. Talking heads fantasy football show here. I'm your host jeff. Carrier did seth law. Hey everyone welcome to the n._f._l. Talking heads fantasy football part is seth lol here with my co host jeffrey carrier jeff back at it one. I want to get right into this opening question here. You know we've been following player movement. It's kind of really volatile right now and and one player that seems to be kind of settled in as an early second round player nick chubb average draft position to oh three. What is your thoughts on nick chubb as far as value. Do you see yourself having any shares of him. I don't think i'm gonna end up within his shares in nick chubb but you know so if we're going to analyze the recent change in departure of duke johnson. I think that's a plus for him. I know that they have another young long running back. There believe hilliard who anticipate being the pass catching back and fill in the duke johnson role but it's just a good sign of confidence vince that nick chubb is going to be their main person even if they spell out a little bit for hilliard interviews not necessarily getting all the past catches me many times where they're gonna audible out from you know vice versa you know. They thought they were gonna run. Then they're gonna pass and he can get a dump off pass in that direction. He's going to be on the field. You know snap percentage wise a ton so i like the move. Obviously everyone likes the offense. We're anticipating you. You know a big increase in production from that offense but his as you mentioned the incline the increase of a._d._p. Has gone from a two point ten in less than two weeks to two point zero three and that's that's a pretty massive move in such a high draft apps spot so i think for that reason i'm gonna just slightly miss out on him where i think i'd i really really liked to take him is right in the middle there <hes> <hes> two point zero seven even two point ten where he was going now because there's not a lot of running backs going in that early second round. He's probably probably just gonna be just out of reach but i do like him. Though i the loss in the browns trained do johnston's huge for me. Nick chubb did still have twenty catches last season season in his rookie season with nick with <hes> johnson there compared to somebody like sunny michelle who had seven catches who literally will not catch the football at all so so twenty catches is pretty solid considering a rookie and he dealt with duke johnson who is one of the top specialists you know for for p._r. Purposes says so he's definitely somebody that i like a lot. At that middle part of the second round he somebody that depending on if i'm picking nine overall in the first round <hes> or tenth tenth overall i would be very very comfortable taking nick chubb early in the second round too. I just think he's he's a bell cow for what projects to be a really good fantasy offense without duke johnson so i i like it yeah and do last year. Head is worse receiving year <music> out of his career so far he only had a sixty two targets came out the solid forty seven receptions so it's hard to gauge what percentage of that is going to go oh to possibly chubb possibly hilliard in the first eight games obviously hunts impact afterwards but you have to believe leave that as long as nick job does everything on the field correctly. It's going to be hard to necessarily have the browns as you know. Take them off and re really reduces load and come to a complete timeshare running back by committee so eight-game sample tube before kareem hunt gets back that that's a huge part of your season right so and even if he's dominant for the first eight weeks and then definitely takes a step back. I mean those first eight weeks. You could put yourself in a position for a first round bye or whatever it might be so. I still like it so little rich but i nick job. I like the departure of dick johnson he definitely this is definitely shaping up to potentially be or nick chavez potentially shaping up to be an elite league fantasy player speaking of elite fantasy players. I mean we're gonna. We're gonna have some positivity for the podcast today. We're gonna talk about players that we want to target. We're gonna save players that we want to avoid and all that all the negativity for another podcast. We're going to focus on some players that we that we really liked that. We see ourselves having multiple shares of we're going out and we're we're going to go get <hes> now. We have the league. Is we have the middle middle tier guys from the late round players. Let's let's start with some of the elite players now. Obviously you know the top ten players. We like all of them just to varying degrees this who are some elite players that you see yourself having multiple shares of or that you're you're going out of your way to target yeah as you mentioned and these early players so obviously it's hard not to like a lot of them but players on i'm going to potentially draft much higher than their a._d._p. Or or make sure i go out of my way to and you could say in a good reason to maybe pay attention to this. Too is if you're an elite get to choose your draft selection. You know this. This becomes really important so just going in terms of a._d._p. Order i'm still kind of surprised i haven't seen him. Go into the first round. We talked about it weeks ago when he finally the n._f._l. Came out and said his suspension won't be he won't have suspension tyree kill for the kansas city chiefs. There's there's no reason why not to love this guy. He was number one or two receiver last year. I mean you're getting him on the turn. Turn everything that offenses coming back there. I mean what is there not to lake in. This draft spot was between him and you know maybe outside. Andre hopkins who everyone include myself has as the wide receiver one was. You're not to like so loved harry. Kill at to a one. I liked tyreek hill law too. I think in most years i i feel like even though he's he's not getting suspended. I feel like that off. The field stuff is still hovering over his his fantasy value for whatever reason because in most years he should be a first round player. If we're going strictly off of his numbers the offense offense he's in. I would have to assume a lot of people look at last season and they look at pat mahomes. It's fifty touchdown passes and they think he has to regress a little little bit. You know maybe it's even it's forty. Touchdowns tyree kills twelve touchdowns. Is that take a hit so i liked. I recall when when you're the second round you you're looking for players that have a ton of upside. <hes> in tyreek hill checks all the boxes the offense he's got as as much upside is any wide receiver <hes> it just it's great value which is part of the reason why you and i always say we we really don't want to at least i think think i'm i don't want to speak for you but i think you agree. We don't wanna be picking in the seven to eight to nine range necessarily because you're in a position where you potentially actually have to take de'andre hopkins not that you're really overdraft de'andre hopkins but you can get tyreek hill in the second round which is just greater value and you know i know in the last episode talked about our draft strategy in you haven't listened to that. We really kind of breakdown. Maybe the parts of the draft to kind of go after each section what we like back in. I talked a lot about being the upper end of the draft and then you can obviously make the argument you're doing now. Which is you know why being the middle. If a lot of the players in the middle was basically where tyree kills at the end of the first round early second in the middle of you can kind of feel like you're stuck in no man's land potentially with david johnson's johnson's the world's levian bell and whatnot so so yeah i mean i agree the next person on the list. A lot of these are kind of bunched up so maybe i'll just do. Do you know i'll do the next one here who's risen extraordinarily. I guess you know the settlement has come off of todd gurley <hes> <hes> we preached it just absolutely a weeks ago about drafting him in the late second round. I don't know i guess as we get closer. There's no hasn't really been news on either side. Some kind of kinda surprised at the same sense that he's moved up so much. Maybe again is because because there's not that many early second round running backs of really target and there's so many wide receivers in that range. I don't know i've liked him. I haven't been that scared tired of running back of his caliber. Go ahead and spell him. Give him less work if i'm going to get him in the second round and he's getting the touchdowns on the rams offense who you for the first you know what before target went down there with the number one offense scoring or two or three behind new england and casey. Give me that all day you know assuming that he doesn't lose goal line duties and they kind of keep them fresh. I'm cool with it. Too is definitely getting at the top of the the range there but again. We're still talking about todd gurley. The rams offense so i like it. I'm still targeting him heavenly and as as you mentioned you know maybe you try and strat- strategically pick your spot where you picking in the first round. If you know you wanna kinda get an early round running back and someone. I talked early in the early second kind of fit that bill all right. Let me ask let me ask you a question. I agree with you on todd gurley. I liked him even better when his a._d._p. Was sure sure that goes without saying right so now. It's getting a little a little bit i want. I want to say too close for comfort because i still believer in the value for todd gurley close best player and fantasy but so let me throw a couple of names that you the thing with todd gurley is no one questions his upside <hes> we've seen him do it for the past couple of seasons john's but when you're picking in the early second round where you're going to have to be picking to acquire todd gurley. Are you taking him over tyreek hill now. Are you taking them over juju. No are you taking him. Here's here's a question. Are you taking him over. Mike evans. I am see i that's where i think i'll lean towards my evans and you said you tyreek hill over over girly. Mike evans evans now. They're both going in the same round that doesn't fit the same player different round criteria but we're talking to mike evans one less catch tyreek hill more receiving yards and obviously tyreek hill had the monster year on the back of pat mahomes with fifty touchdown passes tarik twelve touchdowns with gas at eight. Mike evans just does the euro era. They're not exactly the same even p._r. Which i recall was a number one wide receiver standard and by the way all these eighty ps and everything we're talking about terms of targeting targeting is full point p._r. So we're clear in tyreek. Hill was number. Three mike evans was number nine. There was almost a solid three points per week difference so they're close. Which is why they're going in the same round but you know we had to nitpick here. In terry. Kill is still in the better offense <hes> <hes> i can i can. I can expect more what to get outta tyreek. Hill this year and girly. I think is so close to mike evans that i think i default default position with that. Maybe this is just like my value at two point to point away right so you're very close yeah. I look at tyreek hill season last year. Do you think he's gonna have a better season this year or worst season you think last year's numbers is if you were a betting outing man and we we know you are. Do you think he has more touchdowns this year than last year. Stats real quick twelve touchdowns last aasiya you think he has more than twelve touchdowns. I do not i don't either. Do you think he has more than you think he tops. Fifteen hundred receiving yards man is yards per reception seventeen. I think there's a shot he can get past <hes> fourteen seventy nine yeah. Let's see like i look at mike evans numbers and i i think last year i was probably arguably the best year in his career you could say the two thousand sixteen was a little better because the touchdowns announced but bruce arians with no adam humphreys into sean jackson not to belabor the same points that we always make but it's it's worth being throwing out there because the fact remains better coach less options is just him and chris god when they throw the ball unexpected goodyear names winston i love mike mike evans value and and i look at his numbers and i'm like he he's good he could be a double digit touchdown guy. So what are we arguing here like the value or picking todd art girly over my i would take over todd gurley okay well. Let's let's get to the next to people in the elite section here because this is going to be important. The next person is someone that actually surprise has not gone out of everyone that we've liked. We've talked about they just seem to keep going up people alaric coming to the realization that they were undervalued but this person has not if anything he might have slipped a couple pegs. That's juju sucessor two point zero three absolutely enamored with the upside and the percentage of target's guy could get is just an enormous yet twenty four percent target share last year. There's no reason why with antonio brown limited with the no twenty four percent that that can't creep up to almost dirty already granted. They threw an absolute ridiculous amount last year but you know i don't know i can't expect to really go down too much still gonna love you on bell their first full. I guess both first full season entering the season without levian bell. They're going to have to throw a ton on the guy at one hundred eleven catches with antonio brown. I mean yeah you could say maybe their offense won't be as efficient because it's hard to imagine them being more efficient with no antonio brown but just the sheer volume demands that juju be like he's a borderline first round right. Oh absolutely me and i guess he is there as well. L. and i'm so high on juju that again this is why i don't want to be in the middle of the first round necessarily especially six seven eight range but i have juju as my second overall wide receiver him entire. Kill cannot decide but i have him that high so it would almost like if i got stuck stuck in in the seven spot i might have to do. They're just to prove a point just a tape player i want because when you're i mean that's what you should do. Don't go off eighty ps and just because you know julio's going higher or michael. Thomas like someone is idea what do do so much now. I hope i can get dude you in some of these wraps. I don't know i feel like it's going to be difficult. I might not be in the back end of the first round early seconds and now we are also playing with a lot of people that listen to us so i can imagine that's gonna make it even more difficult if i can call dibs right now and are real men's league. That'd be great. Give me juju. I call dibs on that. <hes> <hes> just super high on juju. I mean i just i don't know what else to say. Here's the thing about juju and we we. We've just been talking about for for a while l. Now the middle to end of the first round. It's like it's completely anything could happen right so de'andre. Hopkins has one point zero six. I think most people would would agree the a he is the consensus you do you take deandre hopkins there even though the gap between him and juju wide as as a lot of people think adam seven i'm fine fine taken atoms over juju and then out even even be receptive to the to hearing the argument okay. You take bell eight because he is probably the last. Did you know his upside whatever bell but as early as one oh nine juju or do michael thomas. That's a good question because i think i would lean to. I think i'm leaning towards juju there in four full point p._p. Are you have to do because of the receptions. I mean he had a hundred eleven catches last last year with antonio brown as you noted. I think that you can definitely start getting closer to a different argument when you start getting into the standard because michael. Thomas is catch as many balls as ju just so but how many catches did <hes> michael thomas last year. They spread the ball around there so much. Let's look it up now. I mean obviously we're talking or even half point p._r. Think you'd probably go schuster yeah. <hes> it's a matter of preference. You really can't go wrong either one hundred hundred and twenty-five catches for michael thomas okay. It's the touchdown the effort to nine nine nine touchdowns thomas seven for juju so pretty close there. I think if you're making the case for juju you're saying he's you know we're we're getting handed the keys you know antonio brown the upside of what could be with juju this year and what the offense might look live with him as the focal point is is intriguing rigging and that's why you know a lot of people are one of the reasons why people love juju. Here's a crazy question again. I love michael thomas. How can you obviously not but i mean is it. Is it out over the remmel possibilities that no jews you also get. You don't even know what i'm going to say but he does. He get like fifteen touchdowns because they don't have to throat anyway these crazy numbers but in that spot. I like everyone's floor. I like judas floor. I'm just going to upside there. I feel like when michael thomas when it gets on the great. I'm going to get something top three top. Four guaranteed might be a little bit more downside juju being the number one receiver there but i'm going for just complete blow up in that spot. Here's a crazy question. Are you taking juwono seven. Could you see yourself doing that. Yeah i just yeah you know unfortunately like i don't wanna get stuck in that position because i'd take him to five spots later so that obviously means i would much rather pick later and be happier so the next the next person on this elite category of only got four three of them wide receivers person. We were just mentioning mike evans. We are two point zero eight zero lot to distinguish the difference between him and terry killed. Not really you know we got we. We got tons of targets that have left that offense. I think everyone's kind of talked about this. Tampa bay offense including us to nauseam what brasilia's comeback vertical passing like who cares what they are win wise with james winston but mike evans should have another great year and if you can get him i'm to combo him with one of your top four wide receivers potentially. I mean running backs an atop of the i four picks. It's just such a great combo yeah. That's my that's my dream combo in all the best ball drafts that i've done at this point. Mike evans is always the the guy that i target you know when i've been picking the four to five range and several occasions. I've missed out on him. He goes the pick or two before me but he's he's an awesome second round player like you said if you get the zieger david johnson or kamara in your lucky enough to have mike evans fall to you. That's that's the ideal scenario yeah because all the time what happens in in the second round here is that the by the end of the second round. You've got people who have really good upside but you know maybe they have a lot of question marks. Maybe they haven't done it. So many years years in a row like antonio brown type of player would be a great example of someone that would be typically going late seconds or so and with mike evans. I feel like besides maybe the one year that was really kinda disappointing and he didn't score a lot of touchdowns. He's basically a stud veteran at this point and you could say that his numbers could even get better because maybe the offense is more efficient this year yep i am i am. I am firmly on the mike evans bandwagon. I could see myself. We've got a few drafts coming up. I see myself having at least two or three shares and mike evans at the end of the second round. It's like you feel so good about the start of your draft. I mean you just feel so good about it and this is it doesn't mean very interesting with me do in our drafts. It's like where do we end up. In the second round you know because obviously we know we both targeting mike evans and so and that's why i love the idea of getting a running back early in the first round and then if you can parlay that with my gavin's in the second round you kind of i feel like you've got somebody who's not doubt much below. The andre hopkins around later like the under hopkins is a little better but he's not that much better outta the mike gavin so my guns in the second round is an absolute home run any other elite players were leaving out or is so i've comment a lot on david johnson the past and the reason he's on this is because i don't know how you really target someone who's going one. Oh five. That's like that's like saying target. You know alvin kamara i i don't i don't know i like david johnson lot. I don't i don't i don't. I don't think he's one of those top four ronnie bags to be honest but when we started talking about this two months ago david johnson was also going at the back end of the first round so things have completely changed right now with zeke disappearance. David johnson is going forth overall because people don't want to take that risk so he's slim to the fourth hole. I like david johnson so if i'm suck there in the middle i mean i had to take him. I'm taking david david johnson over juju not moving through that much. That's you know other than the top five or start the the top five or starting to take shape here we i mean it's saquon mccaffrey kamara david johnson zeke in any particular order with john hopkins being the east kind of he's in a six tall. He's not going anywhere unless zeke drops depending on how that situation unfold but right now. I think he's you really can't picture. Che's e falling out of the top five all right fantasy football fans listen up. 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Maybe the you know the players players going fourth fifth six rounds somewhere in that range <hes> you know where you when you're picking in the first and second and even third round. You're starting to what kind of some of your picks at least some of the pick that i've been making some of my best ball drafts on draft have been influenced by some of the players that i know i can get in in the middle rounds you know some of those middle round players for example you and i on our last podcast. We talked about how much we like some of the wide receivers that are going in the middle. It'll rounds and why that has led us. You know as part of our draft strategy in the draft. We wanna take running backs in the first round if we can so when you look at the middle rounds who are some of these players that you're you know whether it be in best ball drafts you you've been seeing yourself multiple shares of you're taking <hes> who are some of the really good players that have really good value. Let's start with some some running backs there any running backs in the middle rounds all right off the right off the bat in the early early fourth-round definitely good if you get suck with the end of the first round there early second late third early fourth kind of turn is josh jacobs typically set. You and i aren't really big into rookies but that's a lot. That's usually has a lot to do with their value. Sometimes being over hyped now. I watched the first episode of hard knocks. I didn't see josh jacobs anywhere. Which i thought was surprising so hopefully i'll see him in the next one or so just just just to get a look at him but first round rookies having control of essentially the entire backfield for the most part jalen rashard is still going to catch the ball again. I'm fine with that they're going to they're going to throw enough. They're going to be behind. Their defense stinks as long as he is getting. The majority of the workload goal goal line carries specifically. I i like it. You know i mean the upsides pretty high for parable sake other previous rookies royce freeman last year when it three oh five kareem hunt when it to oh seven a much better offense they head coach was known for using running back really well and that was after of course spencer ware went down and there was literally no one else in the room on the roster christian mccaffrey two point eleven year before that delvin cook get three point on three acres going behind all these players in some cases. He was drafted higher than them so i i like it. I don't know what do you. What do you think they are especially. If you're looking at wide receiver i mean i mean in general i like for the most part rookie running backs value because i always say this is the only time you're going. I think the only reason you're able to get josh jacobs. This year in the fourth round is because he's a rookie if he lives up to his his draft value where he was drafted in the first round and he projects ax to be this this guy who's gonna get a lot of touches for oakland. This year is upside is pretty high if he does what a lot of people expect him to do. You're not going to be able to get them in the fourth round next year. We look at some of the players you mentioned like kareem. Hunt you know more than lived up to his draft capital. You spent acquire him same thing with christian christian mccaffrey daban cook had the injuries and royce fremaux is a little bit different. He wasn't drafted obviously as high as oakland draft. Josh jacobs and i don't think anybody would argue. Royce freeman had more talent than going into his rookie season then josh jacobs has so i i just like think i love the fourth round for josh jacobs. I think he has a ton of upside and he's you know i i like it. He's a player that i i could see myself having multiple shares of yep next. I'm gonna combo the three wide receivers together because they're all going pretty similar again. We've talked about the fourth round specifically the wide receivers our previous episode draft strategy so i want to cherry pick a couple of them just because you know we talked about liking so many of them so just kind of narrow it down a tiny bit more <hes> and this is coming probably a little bit more on my side of things since i put this list together for the most part <hes> brandin cooks four zero five chris godwin at four hundred eight and cooper cup at four twelve you you know i think you have specifically with the rams guys. You have someone really high floors assuming that cooper cup healthy which we've seen this injury people come back from from pretty quickly eshelman last year so cooks was wide receiver eleven fifteen the last two years respectively. He's coming off the board. At wide receiver sixteen sixteen. I understand ceiling isn't super high thus the value but you know one of our sayings gimme points and so depending on how your your team shaken up i mean i'm not going to be ever worried about putting in my pocket two hundred twenty plus points from a wide receiver and it's essentially essentially what you get from cooks most likely from cup a little bit later. Cup seems to be really well utilized around the red zone last year before going down he he was ranked fourth wide receiver n._p._r. Through the first five weeks before his injury fourth overall unsustainable probably for the touchdown pays of course but but again that offense both these guys command over twenty percent target share and then godwin over two hundred targets gets are gone from that offense similar thing mike evans the you know just ahead ninety he went. He had a big jump last year up to ninety five targets chris godwin. He's is going in the later. Half of the fourth which i think is still pretty reasonable for someone who's got some decent some considerable upside. He's got a big body guy so it's not like he's as a only person. He could definitely get upwards of eight touchdowns. Maybe a little bit more depending on how well james winston plays plays so i like all of them. There's a couple of other guys in the area but specifically those three. I think i'll probably target more heavily than others. Then i like all like all those three virtually the same i mean you know top robber woods and brandin cooks and all the rams receivers. I like basically i. I love them. Equally godwin's i think godman to me is i like him a little bit more and i think if cooper cop had injury he was going in fully healthy who was on a monster tear at the first half of last season so <hes> but that isn't the case obviously coming off the injury so i'd have to lean towards godwin but when i mean like goblin obviously a lot more when he was in the fifth round was great valley for him four point -o eight not terrible also not in love with it. I just i i wanna see him. Put put it all together. Even though it's definitely shaping up you know everything's kind of aligning for him to have a pretty good season yeah and of course you know wait until a week preseason game two and three and we see cup out there making cuts. You know you might wanna kiss this a._d._p. Goodbye as well as we've seen with everything else so next person enlists another running back go from four zero one two five. Oh one completely opposite this is for p._r. Only should have probably had ryan on this episode to let them know where to draft. Wrath james white right ryan's ryan is was ahead of his time with that with that james. Where do you take him the third round or fourth round 4._0._1. Where josh shake gone so so true so you should've taken josh jacobs. If dross jacob was there but that's that's where he took him james white right now at five a one. I wouldn't take them any earlier than this but in the fifth round for a team that just lost wrong wrong. Josh gordon is in flocks mikhael. Harry is a rookie wide receiver which we've seen how well that works with the pats as well as his current injuries new england and through for an has been over thirty percent to their running backs in appear full point. P p are basically league getting a wide receiver. That's going to get seventy to eighty catches in the running back spot so you can't go wrong especially in this range at the fifth in the fifth round around so i like it i the floor with because of the catches keeps them relatively high from week to week in the fifth round. I think defeat had any other kind of rushing touchdown upside. He obviously go a lot higher but yeah. I mean what are your thoughts taking james white in the early fifth. I i think people forget how ridiculous has numbers where last year i mean if you just look at james wide receiver which we probably should at this point and you look at total touchdowns anything he does in the rushing game is basically bonus twelve touchdowns twelve toll touchdowns for james white last year going in the fifth round if you can put up with some of the is anyone going into fifth round or later that had twelve total touchdowns anyone. I don't think so. I don't think so either so i mean if you can put up with some of the the game script stuff in some games where james why is is maybe going to be nonexistent. I just sunny. Michelle is an injury waiting to happen. He's not catching the ball and neither is naming harris and they don't really have only person catching the ball is potentially rex burkhead whenever he's not injured <hes> just because he might be a little bit more balanced per se or they think that he is then james white white gonna catch at least seventy balls. I think james white is is a good example of a player that you it's really important before you do draft to go back and just look back at all these players numbers because we think about james why you're like. He's one dimensional. He doesn't run the ball a lot. He's a running back but doesn't run you think kind of like duke johnson a better version do johnson and then you look at james wise the numbers and you're like okay. I'm just going to forget about the fact. These are running back. If anything that's that should be a luxury having him as a running bagging. They're hard to come by this going to be a lot more receivers available double so you can get a running back that basically puts up wide receiver type numbers on offense like new england where they're going to have to. I don't want to say manufacturer offense this year because i still zovut slava good offense but no gronkowski eshelman what thirty four this year and battled injuries the james white skin. I should be in line to get a lot of at least a lot of targets in the passing game. Eighty seven catches absurd twelve toll touchdowns. I mean mm-hmm bonkers next to again similar type of rain here so tyler boyd at five point oh seven d._j. More five point nine basically contracting type of wide receivers seth european tyler boyd person pull out some numbers is with them without green for half the year almost identical twenty three percent target share with him twenty one with how wide receiver twelve with why received sixteen without what if anything these numbers kind of say hey a._j. Green taken coverage off tyler boyd make some actually a bit better. We have the new offense going in place in cincinnati. That's a little bit exciting right. We don't want to see this. Marvin lewis led offense or whoever was still calling the plays out there with his production last year. We're going in the middle of round five again. You can't go wrong definitely more of a full point p._r. Person and d._j. More someone. I think that we typically wouldn't necessarily really like maybe i'm a little bit higher on him than you are. South ten out of fifteen games with more than five five or more targets targets so two out of every three games essentially ten out of fifteen games five or more targets he had with a rookie as a rookie he had over eighty targets and over fifty receptions. Those are good numbers any way anyhow you slice licensed right i mean over eighty targets as a rookie going in the the middle of fifth round and to the fifth round they lose devin funchess. He only had two touchdowns last year so these got room for improvement there. If christian mccaffrey takes any kind of <hes> <hes> backwards you know doesn't catch and good as many targets it could go to d._j. More i like the upside they're potentially. I know the carolinas not the best passing team and and cam newton but they got no one else yeah. I mean i'm i'm not i don't hate d._j. More and if somebody takes him i'm not going to say oh. That was a bad pick. I mean but at the same time. I don't see myself really having any shares d._j. More because i always feel like number one there's always somebody or multiple in any league that are going to be much higher more more than me and he's the kind of player where you wanna be earlier to the party then too late so somebody else might pick him before me and he and he might have a really good season he might get over a thousand yards. Seven catches are so and you get up to six or seven touchdowns and that's fine. I'm i'm not going to be the one as early enough to the party on d._j. More i just i don't like the offense i don't like cam newton cam newton for quarterbacks but i don't like a receiver that's in an offense led by cam newton because of the inconsistency and his accuracy issues and i just think like you said the d._j. More is going to have real issues catching touchdowns. You really need need d._j. More if you're taking him in the fifth round over you know some of the other players that are gonna be in somebody like a jarvis landry. You really need d._j. More to make the jump to to at least seventy five catches right well. I mean we're talking about the middle of the fifth round me he if he went up to seventy five catches that's that's a huge homerun mid to get to get return on value. I could say a just a modest increase would probably do it at the fifty five catch mark three more touchdowns in the same numbers as last year might do it. Carolina only had one hundred less passing yards then then new england last year with thirty nine hundred forty three carolina align was a fifteenth with thirty eight forty seven so you know last year with north turner chris mccaffrey. I think they got a better offense and we all remember now. All arguments you made are usually ones that come out of my mouth right like i don't like carolina and i don't like cam newton. I don't think decorated a passing quarterback but we do have to realize from fancy standpoint. Which is what. I want to try and do what i tried to do. Better better at this year being objectively looking at some of these numbers. There's no way to slice it that d._j. More could be on the verge of over twenty percent target share because if no what else pass to greg olson is another foot injury away from not being around any super old. He's like at least thirty. Five punches is no longer there. I mean they have have cursing meal the christian mccaffrey yeah. Here's a question and i've had a couple of basketball draft where i've been in the position of maybe aby taken d._j. More and i'm taking off the neck ler over him of reached a little bit off. Find myself reaching a little bit on awesome eker because at the point you know somebody of the players that are going in that area. We're talking the evan ingram's the mike williams lamar miller l. sean jefferies. Maybe like a quarterback and one quarterback league. What are your thoughts on. I mean i know you're pretty much your little higher on d._j. More than me would you take him over austin actor assuming the news melvin gordon is still he's. He's not coming back for a while. Yeah no i probably wouldn't i'd probably take equity yeah. That's that's kind of where i'm out with with d._j. More as i i respect i respect the opinion that he's he could have a breakout year and then he has a lot of things working in his favor. I'm just i don't want to try and catch lightning in a bottle with d._j. More i would much rather take a a more proven commodity austin necker who oh i know i can use as a running back especially when when running backs in that range are very few and far between it's kind of a scarce a scarce commodity. There's not too many running backs after the fourth round that i really like yeah i mean i i would take over him as i just mentioned so that you know there goes with that in but i think at some point to remember that if you just keep on getting a bunch one hundred eighty two two hundred and point players then are you really capping off the high upside of your not. Are you really elevating your team because a lot of times it's easy to find one hundred sixty two hundred eighty point playoff a waivers so i think the fifth rounds a good. It's bought take a couple of these shots finding lightning in a bottle or things a little bit of an aggressive statement for someone who had over eighty targets and over fifty catches last year here. I feel like in most cases. If this was a player on a better offense i mean we we saw what i think. Amari cooper had a better year but we saw what amari cooper was going after his rookie year and and so forth so. I think that maybe you can make the case that because of his offense that's kind of baked into his a._d._p. Lasts in terms of the middle ground is awesome. That cler talked about it on the last episode. I believe is the opening question question as the best deal and fantasy right. Now i do realize is a big risk because melvin gordon still has several weeks come back but but if we're in the fourth round i mean what do you have to lose. You potentially getting an rb one that late. What do you have to lose again can going for upside awesome. Necker had nine touches a game with melvin gordon in twenty. When melbourne wasn't playing you know he's going six. Six point zero six to me that is such a no brainer and that's going up by the day literally by the day. I'm surprised it hasn't gone up faster. I'm willing to take him over. James is white five. Oh one right now. That's where i'm at with the nectar. So what's your thoughts on my comment on over james wet at five a one really tough. I wasn't prepared to answer that question. I don't know they're they feel like completely opposite. The types of players like awesome clara is is more. I mean kind of on a lower ceiling higher floor variety james. Why is somebody who has an extremely extremely low floor but somebody that you you could see after a week four or five being a top three fantasy running back. He has that kind of upside because of the monster games he's capable of having in that offense and it's gonna feature him early and often in certain situations so i would probably disagree. I would probably lean towards james wiping wipe it. I mean there. It's the gap between the two of my is razor thin there. I don't know it's like the very close yeah and that's probably the spot that i definitely anticipate actor moving up to if you're if you're drafting labor day weekend and and you know gorn still not back and it still news of him i mean you can make the argument. That echo is going to be the third round i mean. Do you know like the end of the third around guests. This is this is a a._d._p. That is still not you know that's kind of in the middle like people are like okay. I'm gonna take a little bit of arrest but not too much of a risk because if gordon's not there and labor day weekend in game is next week and digit in echoes going to get fifteen seventeen touches again. He's off by two rounds for sure. I think the one arguments we may james favors. We already know what james white is and it's kind of like the good thing about also the bad thing bound the bad part of it is he'll have those games where you know he's just not as effective because he's not going to run the ball but we also know is upside is attributed mainly to the fact that he can be an absolute p._r. Monster whereas austin ecuador ecuador austin i mean and what if justin jackson comes out and just looks like a better version of austin equitas awesome do one thing really really really well. James white has an elite leap fantasy skill and that's why in the fifth round right now i would lean towards james white close. Call indefinitely could happen happened with justin jackson. I mean have you got going on especially because of where you're starting these draft capital just jackson in the ninth tenth round is an an easy other person and pick up. I don't think justin jackson. I watched the first preseason game the ones out there. We'll all the ones that philip rivers looks great in the past. Now justin jackson might end up winning goal line situation which could cause an issue. I am definitely aware of that but in that offense with philip rivers there's enough touches to the running backs just like new england them new england the chargers. There's new england saints. They just use your running backs and they're going to be a lotta. Hurry up situations where they pass down to the five yard line of hurry up my already already be in the package offers. A package might stay in there for an inside handoff draw so anyhow late relate rounds. I guess we'll look okay kind of middle of the sixth round on property. You know a lot of ground to cover their obviously but i guess when we look at the late rounds. Is there any player that you know. Maybe it was going much later a couple of weeks ago that has seen his stock rise in similar ways. The tar girly stock arisen or kerryon johnson stock has risen as a late round player that you really liked or or have light for a while that stock continues to rise in this kind of edging into the middle middle round range yeah the one person that has been disappointingly going up as christian kirk again just a month ago. He was going almost a full round later. He's crept up into the six round. He was kind of towards the back end of the seventh round was a month month ago earlier. In the season. I mean he was much later and of course you know we're doing. We're doing podcast offseason so you know maybe can't realistically think think of something. That's happening in in june to stay status quo. I don't really know what information has come out to lead. This big. Rise is maybe people are just getting more excited for the cardinals and the offense in general. I watched the ones on their first preseason game. Come out kamari looked good had full command of the offense commentators even mention and this is sometimes gray white listen to some of the local colored people that they have some insight in terms of the day-to-day and training camp practices that we might not here on national radio and they were saying that there are several times even during practise at color murray was telling larry fitzgerald where to go because remember this same offense from college. Calamari is familiar with phillips clings berry. That's why they brought him. In so calamari has full control of this offense almost from the get-go even to the point where he's controlling doing larry fitzgerald and you know the natural spot to go would be a guest the second year player who had a pretty decent year <hes> <hes> one of the reasons why i liked him and i still do. He's going six point twelve. I will not take him in the sixth round our only take him after the sixth round right now the big run-up is a little bit of a concern but you know i still like him. The arizona cardinals threw the ball only four hundred ninety five times last year. That's at four hundred ninety five times the fourth lowest in the n._f._l. Compared to a team like pull up the pittsburgh steelers because they were one of the biggest people passing the ball in terms of targets philadelphia was over six hundred twenty kansas city. He was over six hundred and thirty for example eating cleveland over six hundred and in arizona was under five hundred just just as an example so there our natural like his natural inflation of just more passes going out to the offense without any increase in targets here percentage which which is fourteen will automatically make his numbers go up just run them passing the ball five hundred seventy five times now ler chelsea going the full round later and and obviously it's a thousand years old but across the board is numbers were borderline significantly better than christian kirk if the pass is do go if that number does go up the offense is an offense this year. That's going to throw the ball. Mourners plays more tambo do you are you pretty convinced. Okay christian kirksey better than bits gerald. No i don't. I don't think you could say that either. I mean when i did the numbers and the projections one of the things that i quickly realized to buy just keeping up up larry fitzgerald's percentage was that he's going to have over one hundred targets himself. I think this is a great wide receiver combo to consider after. I don't know how many touchdowns you're going to score so that would be the biggest concern of getting too too wide receivers and same offense but in terms of maybe not knowing if if one of these players will do really well if christian kirk will take the next step or flerfu shows still command a lot of target share percentage but to your point clean you know just giving even larry fitzgerald a natural increase in in targets and keeping the same targets here percentage looks good too yep. I agree with a one question on. We're christian kirsch going so will fuller go and seven oh six. We both have talked about will fuller laura lot. Are you taking christian cars over willfuller a super tough question. I'm going to take christian kirk fuller probably half the time like if i had the opportunity i don't. I don't think i want shares of i._m. Like every single time but it was really hard for. I mean and put willfuller on this list because he has been kinda. Someone i've been targeting but then i quickly realized that i've been targeted best ball leagues for the obvious reason of of you know whenever he's healthy. He'll play when in various blow up game great auto puts them in in a season long league. You know he played fourteen games aimed. We then tendon seven. I think whoa fuller is a great like if you don't get d._j. More maybe go after have to walk fuller for a big blowout season but i'm definitely concerned with the injury factor there and so decided not to add to this list. I don't know i don't know if he's necessarily surly someone. I'm going outta my weight target which was essentially what i wanted this list to more or less be any anybody else for late around receivers that you're targeting before we wrap up yeah so when you start getting past the eighth fish round ninth round. You know there's so so many people that you could make an argument for i guess i i don't know i mean <hes> so my the person is marquee value scanning green bay nine point zero. Three kinda surprised that he wasn't going a little bit higher. <hes> drama alison seems to be going ahead of him. M._v._s. s. is ben listed as playing with the twos and too wide receiver sets retu- much into that because green bay obviously is going to come out and a lot of three wide receiver sets. It's the slot has been a good position. Which is why maybe drama allison's. A._d._p.'s a bit higher of course you know in our draft grid if you haven't downloaded that we talk about combos to get drama alison n._b._s. Especially this late in that type of offense is great combo to get so he had a lot of games where he just didn't show up because of a rookie situation or non he had he had eight out of his sixteen games half of his games with three or fewer targets so you know snap shares an issue getting on the fields maybe consistencies in issue with route running but it seems like he's playing well. Aaron rodgers is taught them up. He seems to be playing with two receivers sets so i see that maybe the inconsistency not being as much of a factor so yeah definitely definitely a good potential obviously obviously the upsides there and that offense but also if you're in a league with a keeper where you can keep one player at the round you draft him marquis marquez velez gambling n._b._s. c._b._s. Is a not a bad player. I mean this is point in the draft especially if you're in keeper league where that kind of factors in if all things are equal to players <hes> i want to ask you if you take over vallas gambling <hes> nicole hairy going ten point zero two. Would you take him over scandal. Yes or no or taking m._b. Almost zero interesting to kill harry at this point. I don't know i just emmanuel sanders the opposite of of scanlon when we talk about our ben strategy and this is the point draft where you're trying to fill out your bench manual sanders more of the higher floor solid week to week variety eddie less volatility know to expect sanders or scheduling. I'm most likely going to take scant ling sanders definitely a good plug and play a bench guy as we talked about in our last episode listed on our draft read but i don't think he's necessarily got enough you know. I don't know excitement or juice for me to take him over n._b._s. Like i could probably still replace sanders. A couple rounds later so i'll be i'll be l. Let sanders fall on my lap and that's typically what you want to do with the plug and play guys all right well that wraps up the late round players. We've uncovered the elites. The middle rounds and the late round players more to come sure these you know this is going to be very fluid situation. Everybody stock is moving up and downs. We'll have more more communist for sure going pretty busy next two or three weeks but you want to add anything we less yeah. Just just want to follow up. You know thanks for everyone to who has gone on in downloaded the draft grid you've gone to talking heads nation dot com or you just click the link from our website n._f._l. N._f._l. Talking heads dot com. You can join and get the draft bread with just released releasing to point out by the time you hear this. You might get 2.0 viewpoint. Oh draft grid. It's a step by step guide who to take and what rounds who to avoid. It's got the q._b. Strategy when to take the the q._b.'s in one q._b. and q._b. Leagues everyone from the elites streamers as well as our bench tragedy which we've talked about the plug and play the high upside aside in my new wave liquid bench assets so <hes> go ahead and download that talking heads nation dot com and you also get to join our private group message so draft season is almost here nothing better than preparing for your keepers. You're in sees in the middle of a draft. You can message set and i are private group message. We absolutely love helping out everyone seeing a lot of new names. Come back to the group which is exciting writing. Go ahead and download enjoined that again at talking heads nation dot com. We're the n._f._l. Talking heads and thanks everyone for listening. Thanks so much for listening to this episode of the n._f._l. Talking heads fantasy football podcast show with your host jeff carrier and seth while we'll catch you next time.

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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 304: Bill O'Brian Out, Trades Through Week 4

GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast

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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 304: Bill O'Brian Out, Trades Through Week 4

"Golden state media concepts. Fantasy football podcast is your one stop shop for fantasy football news and advice sign rooted draft, First Round Valley Gaga, and how a lot of your team's got you covered additionally sinus steam leaks he arlene I DP DP lead. Daily fantasy football. As we break down all the question of fantasy football, it's the golden state media concepts, fantasy football podcast. Hello and welcome to the G.. S. M. C. Fantasy football podcast, and the GMC podcast network. It is your host on Tuesdays Ethan back here again. All. Things Fantasy football football-related were getting right into it in the nitty gritty breaking news you know as we're taping this. Bill O'Brien got the BOOT so. My first coach firing predictions was. A week. By Week five I extended it right and I did say. You know I thought there'd be a coach firing week four. It's after week four soon, right? We're still in week four technically, because advertisement is the Monday night games having played because as we know the Patriots do play Monday night alongside Green Bay and the Falcons they play and the Patriots and Kansas City play Monday Ni- simultaneously, this is ninety double header game it is a back to back so we'll know those results On Tuesday morning when you wake up but has like I said, we're taping this the game not having yet bill O'Brien has been the first head coach fired at the twenty twenty and fell season. So the president has been set no coaches safe even during a pandemic, you can still catch the boot. So what does that really mean exactly. Well, I'm here to tell you that it could mean a whole lot for the Houston team. In a way that. Could set the tone for how they're going to move on. In the future so keep in mind this team does not have a first or second round picking up coming draft. So a firing of their head coach does not necessarily mean that they're looking to put the season away. Wait till next year because next year. There's not a lot of immediate help that you can sit here and say that is going to be available as in a draft like this one we're cove it is affecting literally everything every aspect of our lives draft included right says, Kobe Phil draft with people who have sat out the year. There are people who sat out and now coming back to play there are people who are playing different times. IS GOING TO BE INTERESTING NFL draft. Regardless right. So here we are trying to figure everything out piece by piece already. GM's right. We're not GM's we're. which armchair GM's a bunch of laying lazy couch love CGM's whatever you WANNA call it. Right or one of those people were all one of those people at the end of the day threat of your fantasy purposes but. Here's the situation. The Texans have not been able to protect. The Shawn Watson for majority of his career. Probably, all of his career they have not been able to. Protect him in a way that lets him do what he does. Best. And they also have not been able to sustain. You know they can't run the ball and it's not because they don't have the ability to run the ball. Is that unfortunately right now, their defense gives up too many points. They gave up thirty one points. MINNESOTA. SHOT UP TO MINNESOTA because they they look to be figuring things out even though I'm still questionable about their defense because the defense is hurt all over the place like this, they play actual real offensive team. Might be issues once again but for now, they're to into their staying afloat. Right. They're getting together. I'm sorry not to their one in three. You know they're trying to get they could have into into but you know they they figure some things out in this game and they dismal adjustments, dalvand cooks, looks. Really Solid we're losing fantasy running backs day by day here on the fancy football podcast. So let's just keep in mind that you know. Your best your best ability is availability right now and. Later on in the PODCAST, I'm going to say something that does kind of contradict this but here we go. What does this Texas team? Really mean now, what do we have them? Right where does Houston stand as far as NFL quality team right so Let's look up some numbers right if we look up Houston. Texans. Football Team and we just look at their statistics on ESPN. We're not going go into the deep. The deepal takes because we all see even if you look up Houston, Texans everything is about Bill O'Brien being fired after the enforce start and this was a predictable move. Right let's let's break it down here. Houston Texans Firing, Bill O'Brien after Owen fourth start after what happened in this off season makes a little bit of sense. There's a lot of pressure on him to be good. and there was also a lot of pressure to showcase that you know the Andre Hopkins thing was a bit overblown well to be honest it was not a bit overblown the Andre Hopkins showcase himself as. One of the best wide receivers in the league, not to say that he wasn't before him, but it definitely looks like him Colin Murray, how disconnection and he's just been racking up. On receptions receptions, and you could sit here and argue that you know Brian had one of the tougher starts in the league this year and. It was only going to get a little bit easier as you know, they play the chiefs week one ravens week to the steelers defense week three right and they actually did a fair enough job. Against steelers and they competed right. They compete against the Vikings granted they gave up thirty one points offensively, and that's the thing on average given up about thirty points a game on defense. That's not good. And they have yet to put up anywhere close to twenty five points a game or in any game this year and it makes sense because. Their best weapon is a guy who's in of the lineup all the time and Shawn Watson has no time to. Really Look Downfield make any solid reads right now he's running for his life and that honestly stunt your quarterbacks development more than it makes them better. I'm starting to feel like this is a trend when we get guys who are athletic guys who can make a lot of throws and you know I feel like the Shawn Watson, the different case because he's not that typical athlete quarterback who has a big arm but doesn't really go through progressions. Think that Shawn Watson is capable of reading the defense and reading the field and seeing guys and I think his time at Clemson show that he was a winner and he's able to do some things and he does have that magic that people like to to put him. The thing about it is. He might have a little bit of the Punch Drunk Syndrome that Michael Vick got during the eagles years where they were supposed to be the you know the Dream Team that didn't work out too well for them but. What I mean is. He may not be sitting here taking hits all day and taking sacks. But, the constant amounts of pressure. Does in fact, hurt you. In. A really bad way as a quarterback for years to come. My biggest. I guess example of this right now in the modern day, football era has to be Carson wins I really don't think. Carson wentz is as bad as people say he has been playing of hero ball right and that's the thing that gets him. He's been trying to play hero ball for a long time. In this eagles offense because he felt like he needed to be the hero. Because that's who he was and North Dakota state that's who is drafted to be savior of the Eagles and then he kinda delivered it in his first year got hurt really wasn't ready his second year coming back. and then the third year of course, it got really rough. Injuries everywhere and he had to do a lot on his own and then when he drug that team like I said he drug that team to the playoffs and then he got a concussion. And now we're back here again eagles injured all over the place you're having to get wide receivers off the side of the road dolphins line is in shambles and he's running for his life. And he's having to one thing he doesn't have to do. He's not throwing the ball away when there's nothing there. He's keeping his eyes downfield also running for the life going back fifteen sixteen yards down. As, just deteriorating what I think is a really good special talent level quarterback. Because, he keeps thinking that has to play outside himself because he doesn't have any faith in his protection I. Don't think the Shawn Watson has any faith in his protection and that's the biggest thing that could change. The landscape of a quarterback and I think that's one of the reasons why a lot of people are worried about Joe. Borough right now because there's no protection. There's no protection for Joe Borough. I'm telling Joe Bro you know tweet little Hammy real quick for his game. I mean, we don't need to see. Cleveland have the go up against the Ravens. I'm sorry not Cleveland but Cincinnati. You don't have to play against Lamar and the gang. I don't want a defense torture you like this like this is I mean, this is a good game. To, sit here and see what he's capable of, but they don't have the capacity either barely a football team at all now granted, right? A little goat, they really could be three and one if all intents and purposes, right they had a really bad game against the browns other than that. They had winnable games week one, they should of one week one bogus call they lost week to fairly they had a tie against the eagles who are all intents and purposes I don't know what their football team is. and. They won this week there one one in one. Arm sorry their one to one. But it could be three in one all intensive purposes it's just You know. They could be three in one. But at the end of the day. The team was not very good. It would be one of those cases where is the team? That's one games they're not good to like I. Don't have a specific mantra about it, but it just a team that. Is winning, Games. But we all know that they are kind assess. If you play among us, you know what I'm talking about right there. Kind kinda sauce. They don't look like the real deal. And we have a couple of team still walking around like the bears. They're not looking great nick foles and not look great. And we're trying to figure out what they are going to become because it's not like once you take out your starting Qb, it is know what you're going back because they're going to have to stick it out with Nick, foles I don't know if he's going to be the guy to get it done but moving back to the Texans and this whole theory here The worse the Shawn Watson Zero Line gets in the more have to play with a bad. This is what we're going to keep seeing. We're going to keep seeing times where if they go down a score to and they have to just go straight into passing downs, every time they are going to get tortured is GonNa get tortured back there his offensive line is horrendous. Not One of the best in the League if I probably looked up pressure stats right now, it would not be great. For the Texans and it was great last year he was in the bottom half of the league in you know pressures. Had On, quarterback he's just a guy who's always under constant duress and that's a recipe for disaster for fantasy purposes. Right? We're all in love with the fact that. You know the connection. With certain guys like Jordan, Atkins, I like Jordan, Atkins, actually as the tight ends on my bench right now. I'm kind of waiting to see what happens with that. I have a needed to put him in one league this because I have Austin Hooper in you know thank God for the cowboys and not being able to defend fly. They gave up a lot of points last Sunday, which will talk about. in the Sunday pain segment. That's what I call them Sunday pains where we discuss all things that happened in the Games on Sunday for the most part maybe talking about that sort of thing and then. Moving forward. Know going to do with the Texans Titans now let's keep in mind their statistics across the Board for Houston. are kind of all over the place you know their best receivers will fuller who has two hundred, seventy, four receiving yards not bad. But he didn't mess get hate like he had a game basically where he did nothing. He's played all four but He's doing fine. He has. No. Not just. When your best to receivers or rental carbon will fuller when you came from a time where you had the Hopkins and then you have brandin cooks who have not panned out really at all, he still doesn't have either he's not getting offense just yet or just hasn't found his his stride ten receptions on the year which in retrospect everybody else. He's only like. Four options behind the next to which is David. Jordan. Atkins rental COBB. And then we'll, of course, has eighteen receptions He's had twenty one target. So it just he's not getting the ball. Improper places is not looking well, he has no touchdowns. If you drafted rent her brandin cooks to be. What you think brandin cooks could be in offense. Like. The Houston Texans were they were airing it out and trying to get the money balls. That's what will fuller is and the thing about Willfuller is you never know when somebody's going to be healthy with the name will fuller. The fifth is tough. It's a tough scene, but at the same time. Is Looking welfare him. Now so if you're playing with Willfuller you having a good time if you're using David David Johnson, who by all accounts you know he's high fifty one attempt S- for only one hundred, ninety, seven yards he averages four yards per carry. He has two touchdowns on the year he's not. The greatest right now right. Let's let's keep that in mind. He's not it's not the best back that you have available to you. You know have you drafted him in like the third or fourth round you're kind of scratching your head a little bit and trying to figure he's off your team via trade or you just kinda hoping things get better for the biggest thing is that the Texans are giving up thirty points a game you can't run the ball plan down thirty points a game it's not it's not feasible, but we're going to move on. Hopefully, the Texans can figure some things out but the coach and we're out of time for this left for segment through and take a break. We're GONNA come back. Let's talk about Sunday pains when we return GS MC. Are you looking for the very best nfl and college football podcast. Then check out the GSM see football podcast, get the latest football news both on and off the field from the NFL draft to trade to the rumor mill to the NFL combines they got you covered that's GSM podcast, dot com slash football, dash podcast get updates I'm college rivalries, key insights, and much much more. It's football talk the way you want it this show eat sleeps and breathes football. Don't forget them on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Yes. MC. PODCAST DOT COM for more INFO. Very, we're back GSM see fantasy football podcast here, and we are about to get to say meant that I'm calling now son day pains. That's what I'm talking about Sunday pains because all Sunday does is bring me pain when it comes to the fantasy football stuff day in and day out and it's starting to get a little bit tiresome I gotta say it's not always fun I'm not enjoying watching football sometimes, but I'm glad it's back because I'd rather be watching football and is bringing me pain than other things in life. Well, let's get it. Shall we were going to talk about the Arizona game because I was everybody's two week Darling Arizona when he started to and Things were starting to get interesting. They have lost one game at home game on the road. The what does that really matter when you have no fans in the stands Carla, Mary went twenty four of thirty one, hundred, thirty, three yards passing three touchdowns was sacked. Once he had a sixty nine point nine qbr in a one sixteen point seven quarterback rating on the flipside Teddy Bridgewater Twenty six of thirty seven. Two, hundred seventy six ers averaged seven point five yards per play two dollars. One pick a ninety three point six qbr in a quarterback rating of ninety, eight point five. So here's the deal right? If you look. At the total game stats here. You can clearly see. That things just weren't well for Arizona things didn't they just didn't allow things to go well as an Carolina. Carolina had total. yardage of four, hundred, forty, four to Arizona total yards of to sixty two. That's not really great. You're leading. Rusher was Colin Mary where seventy eight yards on six carries and some of them were not designed runs. Of course, we know how gets down receiving yards across the board deandre Hopkins at seven perceptions before you win yards. Robinson had eight receptions for ninety nine yards. It just was not like it wasn't working well, no nine more first downs for Carolina that's pretty significant. And their third down efficiency really told the story when you are three of nine on third downs to seven or thirteen or sorry seven to eleven. You're not getting off the field as a defensive defense couldn't get off the feel. They couldn't get the ball back and column hands, and that's a big reason. Why is he could not stop them on third downs? They had about two more yards per play. than the Arizona Cardinals and. All in all the passing game. Really look good for Teddy. Bridgewater I. think Teddy Bridgewater has looked really good. he's about as good as advertisers what you would think would be. And let's, keep in mind. They don't have their best player on roster offensively in Christian McCaffrey and Mike. Davis really has not let them miss a beat now. IS HE CHRISTIAN MCCAFFREY? Of course not I'm not sitting here saying that he's Christian McCaffrey. But. You know people might be thinking I've been saying this right let's not say people let's say me because I've said this. Running backs in this league or at an overall abundance, you can get a service will running back to replace a lot of the workload that you would need from a starter who may give you more upside because of their talent potential ability of what they able to do on the field gives you more looks you have more packages able to run because what they're capable of. But if you're just trying to win games, there are running back that are out there that you can win games where we saw it. The giants they lose sake on they get. Served running backs off the waiver. Are they just bring up? You know. The DEVANTE. Right. They bring him up they have running backs available to get the job done. Out there in the Holy League. devante Freeman look solid. They didn't win the game or they get kept close. It wasn't a drubbing look at. Over here with the forty nine, they do for a living. They just bringing is to run the ball. Now this of course, it goes against my take Alvin Kamara is like one of the best player in the League is running back or whatever the case maybe I feel Alvin Kamara is is different. Because of what the saints ask him to do right. The saints aren't actually using him as a traditional running back for all intents and purposes right at least not in philosophically they're not. That's what it'll take you as Mary is therefore to beat the beat the brakes off of the defense running headfirst. gashing and slashing they use Latavius. Murray's tire people out. Alvin Kamara is there to give the saints offense a whole different identity. And reality. They're basically going five y every play when Alvin Kamara is on the field. And that's why he's able to get like. Five yards a carry, right that's why he's able to do some things in the run game. So effectively and efficiently is because they're not expecting him to actually be a part of the run game. Late I mean, they have time for they, run him up the middle. But. The reason why they don't all the time is because he's way better in-space. He's way better swing out wide because people are expecting him to be hitting the flat riles people are expecting him to hit wheel routes like he did get one nice wheel route in the game against the lions things were looking. Great. But To bring this back my Davis, he's look serviceable and unfortunately for guys who have Kenyan drake who are being hurt to the core right? This is the this is horrible. If you have Kenyan drake, I have a friend WHO's trying to pawn off Kenyan drake for weeks four, two, point seven yard. Average per carry this game chase Edmunds had a couple of carries a touchdown as well in the receiving game. So that hurts you bad for sure. Any also had five catches, five receptions. So Chase Edmunds. For All intents and purposes. Had A pretty solid game fantasy wise for you better than Kenyan Drake did Kenyan drake two point seven yards per carry thirteen carries. Thirty five yards it's just not getting the job done. This Arizona team. We're starting to see some trends here right Arizona. At the time of the first two weeks, they were darlings, we were seeing some things and then they went up against a team like like the lions and they're not a team that I feel like is in particularly. In a bad spot, I don't think they're the best I also don't think they're horrible and what I'm starting to realize now. There is on a cardinals so far are not all that great on defense and when your team is not that great on defense and you're forced to throw more than run. I. Think a lot of these teams are satisfied with Kyla Mary having seventy, eight receiving or seventy eight rushing yards. And him not hitting spots because I think they'd rather make Mary prove that he can throw the ball. Way? More. than him being with his legs. because. I don't think Calamari has proven wanted to percent that he can hit the throws all the time. And yes, he can be dynamic what he's on, but it's a little bit of the hot coal thing. Right. This is what people said about the Sean over the first few seasons of his career where he wasn't nearly as the guy who I think he is now where he's a little bit more proven now we're still kinda out on the column everything. We don't know exactly what he is yet. And he has a lot of weapons around him. You know, of course, we have Christian. Kirk you may be looking at him a little bit harder now because it seems like him Christian Kirk have gotten a little bit of a chemistry when it comes to end zone touches. John Hopkins has a necessarily gotten in the end zone as much. And that's been a little bit alarming for those who own Hopkins but at the same time. You know stay patient if you want to be unless you get off that you feel you can't refuse. But. For Carolina rushing attack, they are just doing it by committee. You Know Sixteen carries from Mike Davis ten carriers for Reggie Boffon. Bonafide. Von Font. You know they just did it by they just toughed it out. They won a game. You know nobody played outside of themselves. They did what they did. Maybe the DJ more stuff a little bit disappointing. You didn't expect DJ MORE TO END. Up, being. I guess. Second option on his offense and Robbie Anderson kind of taking the reins is the number one wide receiver here but it is what it is. Right you can't always predict everything fantasy football sometimes, you just have to chalk up del and move on but. Are the cardinals in. Trouble. Well, let's find out the cardinals. Their schedule is the jet, then the cowboys and the seahawks. That's the next four. So I'm not too certain. The jets aren't going to I. Don't think the jets are GonNa win this game at all right I don't think they're going to win. I don't know what the scoreline is some people I think minus seven. Or something like that on the line if you're betting if the last time I checked, but for the cartoons eight there minus seven the cowboys game as might be being shootout for all. We know cowboys defense horrendous unless something changes in the next two weeks. Arizona's defense is not that great either it's still a lot of holes there like they were last year. And we know they beat the forty niners early in the first week, but it was week one. Week two, they beat a Washington team who honestly justices is the Washington football team. They're not good right now no one in the NFC ease. You should be proud of a win against any team in the NFC. That's number. One thing that's the biggest takeaway don't if you have a win against an NFC. East. Team. Take it as half a win because they they beat themselves most of the time anyway or they're just not. They're not competent football teams yet so Take it with a grain of salt. They have one and a half wins in my book. They lost to the lions. And they lost to the panthers. The panthers lost a worse loss because you would expect them to be able to move the ball down the field but their defense, the panthers that is. I think they're well coached man I think they've figured some things out and they're coaching on the fly team. Might actually have some sniff like they may have some off in the man they may be able. To. Do Things. That's all I have to say on that matter. Let's move on so. Let's talk about was getting saints out the way. So that way I'm not. Sitting here talking about the saint all day. Saints are two in two. Now in a year where in reality, they could be a whole lot of things. They could be all informed. Some is it could be three, hundred one wherever the case do you WanNa say but the saints buckled now this was a must win game in my category I've said that I believe on Fridays, five where this was a must win game for the saints or else we're looking at seven and nine difference or something like an ten and six. This was a statement game for breeze. If. You Watch the game. Now, a lot of people say they watch the Games don't watch all these games. You read one, nine, hundred, twenty, five to forty, six, nine, average nine point eight yards per play two touchdowns, an interception that got tipped at the line whatever. eighty-eight qbr one hundred sixteen rating as a passer. Drew brees was on it today and I mean he was hitting. Balls that I haven't seen in like seven games of drew. He looked awesome. He looked great drew brees looked leg drew that we haven't seen in a while he looked sharp. He looked like the of old that we like to say that we know but he hasn't always been there. He was sacked two times but you know there's a lot of things on his injuries all. Over, the place for the saints before the game during the game, there's people coming in now but all in all drew brees looked like he got four weeks in a mini. Figured it out. toughed it out Matthew Stafford didn't have his best game seventeen of thirty, one, two, six, three, touchdowns, one interception. He missed a lot of deep balls to a lot of different why receivers You know the agent Peterson thing I, don't understand it personally now believe Kerryon Johnson. Took a bit of a hit last the last two drives of the game and he was sit on the side I think like He. Got Taken out of bounce like he tried to step out of bounds got hit. Hit something on the outer bounce and he was laid flat for a while I. Don't know what his injuries status is going to be but the Dr Andrea? Swift is a guy. You just have to play them like this. Adrian Peterson stuff is ridiculous eleven carries for agent Peterson. Kerryon Johnson India Andrea Swift. Accounted for seven of them. I don't know if this is just the Patriots thing rubbing off because you know the Patriots do this too sometimes, right? Well, also I feel like the Patriot just do this because they know they don't have the talent if somebody's not that talented to get the touches and stuff, they just don't play them. Maybe. That's what this is. I just don't think Matt Patricia. Understand who has. Like it's really crazy Matt Patricia one loss away from being the same place. Bill O'Brien is like there people national media. Talking About Matt Patricia should be scrutinize way more because bill called will have the team at a different position. And it's done nothing. But regress since Matt Patricia has come in. This is true. This is true. You've now Kennedy. Second Game in four receptions, sixty two receiving yards and a touchdown. That's nice for me since I for fantasy. But he should've had more there was a misthrows by Matthew Stafford. That's for sure Matthew. Stafford also got sacked three times, which is a big thing for the Saints Defense. That's what they needed to do. But the biggest takeaway here. Is Trey Smith which will probably get into after his break as running out of time. So we're GONNA take a break come back. Let's talk about trick on Smith and what is happening with the saints offense. Check out the show that's built on the. From the UFC two extreme cage fighting they got the fights covered check out the GSM. See M A podcast get the latest news on past or upcoming fights join us as we talked to in about some of the biggest names mame past present future. When it's the fight game, there's just one show to checkout GSM see podcast dot, com backslash Mame Dash podcast. Go forget them on facebook and follow them on twitter busy GSM. See PODCASTS DOT com for more INFO. Hope. All right. Let's get back into fantasy football. Park has GMC podcast network. We're talking about saints at. The Detroit. Lions, they were away and I gotTa talk about a man I've been saying it set in the off season. Unfortunately. trae Kwan Smith won't be able to show this very afraid much longer I think that Michael Thomas will find himself back in the lineup if not next week the week after their bye week. So Trey Smith hype train is going to slowly come to an end at least I think. So but four receptions, fifty, four yards two touchdowns had a twenty yard touchdown I believe or was it the one not to either way? trae kwame looked really good. Really Solid Guy. and. I always said he showed talent to a crime has had the town. He has the speed. He doesn't have the flash moves right? He's not Odell when the ball his hands he doesn't have the denies Jukes he doesn't have the spins he doesn't have the breakaway break tactical ability as you would like to see out of the receiver but that's not what he's there for he's solid he catches the ball and he does what needs to do and he's sitting he knows situation. He fell on a ball that was fumbled by Josh Hill for like if fumbled like sixteen yard up the field and he somehow they would to have the awareness to go and fall on it. That's big time. That's the first big time playmate second big time play. It was like third and twelve. The saints needed to convert in order to keep the drive alive to basically shut the game down. This is what the saints typically are not the best at right. The Not not the best at having the game sealing drives in recent time and really does hurt. This is where all the Minneapolis miracle stuff happened. This is where all the those sort of things happen when you need saints to finish off a drive to take team away instead they give the ball back. trae. Carter. Smith. came up with a humongous catch right then and there. At the time and he did his well after like all his big plays came after the fact. That he came out of the game hurt injury he looked like the wind was probably knocked out of my. That's what my guess is but he came back any bawled out. Michael Thomas told him to go do via tax, which is hilarious to me because it made it seem like he told him something like some. You know prolific. messiahs techs about how to become a great wide receiver, but it was just to say ball out one hundred. EMOJI. But that's what he did. Trey consummate bawled out and did his thing and you know, Emmanuel Sanders who did start for me this week? Six receptions ninety three yards. He's getting there. It looks like that connection is going somewhere. Kamara wasn't as featured as much in the passing game that's to be expected when for three weeks. The saints were just up and down to them for so long. that just sort of happens when it looks like breezes getting more comfortable with guys out there in the receiver land. Now that also could mean a lot for Detroit diesel all but. I just think that they figured some things out and their offense was just clicking all the way. Listen keep in mind that in the running Game Department Alvin Kamara had nineteen carries eighty three yards and a touchdown as Murray who has been getting similar amount of Carey's Camara has sixty four yards, two touchdowns. It's about time he's been rewarded for the hard running that he does he does a lot of the dirty work criticisms because sometimes they're blocking you from the best but he will just pouch through you'll punch through and finished drives he will punch through and finish and fall forward. Mary doesn't fall back when he runs the ball, he's six to. Lake to twenty. He's a big guy and that's the best thing. The saints. That's one of the best acquisitions. The saints ever got when they let marketing them go. They got tape is Mary and it didn't always work last year looked a little bit strange. But with Save Mary, this year looks to be a guy who's ready to take names now the saints. Interestingly. And interested enough. Right. There schedule I feel is. A little. To see the make a run. So they have a bye week week six, they go up against the LA. chargers. AUSTER nuclear you would hope the thing that might means something but like I said. You know it may not be as an explosive passing offense who let's keep in mind they still have Justin Jackson. Have Josh. Kelly they can get some stuff going but I run defense is pretty solid. So I'm saying this fantasy reasons, why is the fantasy football podcast? Keep him I WANNA say I run defense is solid. It's pretty solid You may want I'm not saying that you want to not start Josh Kelley, but also keep in mind he's not an often actor. our secondary is still kind of kind of weird. It all depends of course, gamewise. This might be when Michael Thomas Steps in, but if it was me. Were not one in three right that was the fear of go one in three, I feel like Micheal Thomas, plays, week five since we're two and two. And we have a decent enough if we get enough. HEALTHY ESPN game. Right. It's Monday night game against the Law Angeles chargers. I have a strong inclination that Michael Thomas is not going to actually come back on this game, but he'll be back week seven October Twenty six versus Carolina Division game the make sense. That's all I'm saying for guys who have Michael Thomas in are waiting to know what the real deal is. You know he came back to practice but I don't think they're going to rush him back. You know it's been one two three. By week, it'll be four. Right. like five weeks before Michael Thomas would step on a football again. So this all makes sense. So let's move on forward. Shall We? So. Moving past the saints I think they'll be fine like I said earlier. They just. They usually bask timbers and now it's October and they might be able to pull off little run. With move onto Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay is in a little bit of flux and you know they did win of course last week against La chargers they were at a strong disadvantage. Right, it was not great what was going on It was a tough game. Flake the last few weeks we've seen some rough stuff out of Tom Brady within Tom Brady does this thing where he throws for five touchdowns? We all forget but I'm not gonNA forget you know Tom threw the ball forty six times. For three, sixty nine he can still throw the ball I. think that's the biggest thing we are worried about all these old quarterbacks can they still throw the ball? Yes. They can still the ball. But it wasn't a normal off-season for them and they need more time than most of the young guys. So they just don't have the. Have the reps they need. You know you'd think that he's young guys need the reps to learn the offense. These guys don't need to learn. The offense will reason you learn the offense Tom Brady needs to be comfortable within this Bruce Arians offer for one and two. He has to get chemistry with these guys in these receivers and a lot of the guys that he did have chemistry with have been in out of the lineup. Of course, they lose only Howard which stinks if you did have him. Bright. That's not great. Ozzy Howard did score a touchdown if I remember correctly too, which is also not too great right Rob Gronkowski one catch for twenty nine yards. It was a good beamer that he had over the top the field but Mike Evans had seven receptions for one twenty, two, one, touchdown, Scotty Miller, how to touchdown. So if you started Scott Miller out of faith, it worked out for you this time in fantasy world. But Tom turn things around it. All went down after the the fumble that happened from Joshua Kelly, you know he only had nine carries for seven yard. They really couldn't run the ball at all course automatically came out of the game. And it was just became a shootout and I, think that was more impressive to me at least was that Justin? Herbert, for the majority of the game. He looks all it. I think heard was going to be good player. You know receiving wise key. Now in most of the carries most receptions, yet eight receptions they really had no answer for him in the passing game Tehran. Johnson burn one but that was the beautiful pass that he had where he threw a straight dot for a touchdown no one else could touch him. But I'm worried about Tampa going forward just because the injuries are kind of piling up. Ronald Jones look good though I forgot to mention Ronald Jones twenty carries a hundred eleven yards not td's though so you know you can't add Carey's unfortunately two. Fantasy points, but you know eleven fantasy points. For what he gave you plus the six or seven if you play Pr. Seventeen. Exception yards he did solid. Right he'd had a solid game plan we're going forward. Tampa Bay does have an interesting scheduled coming forward for them. Play the bears they play Green. Bay. They played the raiders and they played the giants, right? So Green Bay is, of course, the toughest game they're probably going to have. Don't sleep on the raiders because I think the raiders or one of those teams that. They're in the game and it's close they can. They couldn't stick a game from you there. They're still in that realm where like probably seven nine material but you could be one of those seven and they steal from you. The bears are their record. You would make them think that will make you think that they're better than what they are, but they're not that great right we know this that's a night game. Coming. Up Next week against the bears and green. Bay. is a team that's probably going to be the Fox, five game of the week. Or whatever channel you are we here we were Fox five. That'd be the fuck game of the week probably that'd be a home game for Tampa Bay Aaron Rodgers versus time Brady it's GonNa be a big time match up Hopefully, they have devante Adams back I don't believe Devante Adam, plays this week either this this Monday night. So that's GonNa be interesting for them. And finally we're going to move onto now is Dallas leads. Let's get into. Dallas in what they have going forward for the rest of the season because I have a lot of things invested in Dallas Cowboys and I'm a little bit concerned for them not really when I am so Dallas for all intents and purposes for fantasy wise have been basically a success for everybody that is not named Michael Gallup? Everybody else has seen some sort of success right Ezekiel Elliott has been kind of in a weird slump sorts but. I don't believe that is particularly, because Ezekiel. Elliott is not as good as he used to be or hurt or anything I. Just think that game scripting is a real thing and unfortunately for Ezekiel Elliott in the running game zeke Elliott cannot exist. He did get eight receptions for seventy one receiving yards. So let's keep it in mind people are saying they it looks different. Yet, he looks a bit different he's still getting four point, five yards a carry. It's still pretty solid. He's still does great things. Right let's not blow our minds here and say Zeke Elliott is kind of regressing I. Don't think that's the case I just think that the cowboys offense. Has to change because unfortunately, their defense just gave up. Fifty or I'm sorry forty nine points weekly fifty points. The defense gave up fifty. To the Cleveland Browns, they gave up thirty eight to the SEAHAWKS. They gave up forty to the Falcons in a win. That shouldn't even be a win I'm sorry to give it thirty nine. And they lost to the rams. Against the. Rams Defense and where they only put up twenty or I'm sorry seventeen foot of under seventeen. So. Only one out of the last four games, they had a game under. Twenty one points and everything else. Has Been At least thirty eight. That is horrendous. That is some bad stuff. That's honestly scary. What's happening That defense is I mean I know these people heard but this is bad. This is bad. This is bad. But what is good is offense offense as In Pack. -able for fantasy. Dak. is almost seventy percent completion percentage. He has one thousand, six, hundred, ninety yards passing. You know. He's great. He's at nine touchdowns, three picks, all the picks that he's thrown so far have been. Bad timing picks at the last minute of game. So this is all about game winning stuff. So late game winner wise Dak has not been able to seal the deal and win some games where they matter but. You know receiving wise. If you have Mark Cooper, you're living life. If you have cd-rom, you are living life. You know Michael Gal for all intents and purposes. You know he's not on the same level, right? He's on the same level, but he's getting yardage and Dalton Salts. He looks really good. You know he's got a touchdown last game cedrick. Wilson got active. Game Ago this team has so many weapons and this is what we're talking about in the off season. The cowboys have so many weapons. You would be a fool not to at least take one of them because they're all going to get a piece of the pie at some point. But if you're wondering Michael Gallup really didn't get that much of a piece of the Pie last game and that's a bit concerning. Michael Gallup wasn't really active. For the cowboys last Game Way to receptions twenty nine yards not great. You Know Market for had twelve receptions to his own, right? And that's pretty sizeable Big thing from Cleveland side Odell. Beckham. Citing. he's looked good these past two games, right? Five receptions eighty one yards, two touchdowns receiving where he did technically have a rushing touchdown to so three touchdowns two carries for seventy three yards. You know the in and around was really electric that looked like oldest of old and I guess the big thing is they'll never was. Nothing was ever really wrong physically old after the initial injuries. He always looked pretty electric and if you get the ball in his hands early, things. Go well. So that's always been a big thing about Oh del you know sometimes you stuff is hard for him in the harsh Physi- form. So that's always the thing but we're going to move on and take our final break and coming back we'll finish out the PODCAST. Out this show built around the women of MMA from the UFC to the extreme cage fighting we got the fights covered. The Golden State media concept's women's MMA podcast the latest news of upcoming. Discussions of previous matches, join us as we talked to about the biggest names in women's mixed martial arts past present and future. When it's the women's game, you know where to listen to the golden state media concepts, women's MMA podcast. Right Fantasy football park has GMC style were back for last again special guest. Mr Bryce Bryce Lewis. Co Host of my time on the. Football podcast for GMC he. Does. Basketball Football Brice how're you man Neva? Good M Gum. Good. I'm glad to be a part of the show I, think it's first time I've been on the fantasy show I think it might be I. Don't know I don't think I've ever asked you to the hop on here. Yeah. So you know obviously a great honor to be on this show to be part of your best if fantasy enlisted experts in the game today. All right. Here already here. Okay let's calm down. Okay I'm all right. But I am going to ask you a little bit of opinion. You know you did win your league last year you are a league champion of new. reigning champion so far you're defending your title Hajri season going by and currently about to go four no oh, look at you. Already displaying the same dominance that when you believe the first time how does the first year is a very up and down here for me? When I was? I was able to show up in the playoffs. That's all well sometimes that's all that matters. You just need players that get hot and. It just works out for you. Speaking of getting hot I made some heart trades these past few weeks. Never discussed them in the podcast recent, and now made another one that really brought up. Yet bet you if you're a smart cookie here in the mid listened to the podcast all the way through you probably guess what the trade was. But last week I made a trade for De'andre, Hopkins Right So or kind of two weeks ago because it's been two weeks since I've had him on my team it was at the tail end right before week three. I had him on my team played Galley Twenty four points no touchdown. But everything was his receptions and yardage, and then this week same same deal only seven receptions for forty one yards, the panthers team, which you know is in our favourite division. Our favorite teams division? You know the panthers team is to into. We'll talk about that later on of course but I made another trade so traded deandre Hopkins. Or traded for him for Mark Andrews and I believe. Someone else I'd have to go back to the history but I traded away Mark Andrews in another piece so that way I could get John Hopkins and ended up getting. Emmanuel Sanders in that. Hindsight's twenty twenty bad trade for the guy. All in all I would say. Oh I. Remember trae James Connor. Way. So Dreams Kinda didn't play or he's not playing this week. So then worked like James Garner was fine. The last week he played for the most part. So all in all I felt like it was a decent equal trade. You know last week in week three Mark Andrews was kind of nowhere to be found this week even though we only had three receptions, two of them for touchdowns. So the guys was fine dodgy. Though I'm getting worried. I'm getting quite worried about the Arizona cardinals offense. Because things are not looking great as far as their the distribution of where things are going. Of course, it looks to seem the Andre. Hopkins is still the number one guy there but when you play against to defenses where The cardinals and I'm sorry garnered the lions gave up. What thirty eight points saints. The Panthers Defense is still very young. They're getting better but you would think that column early lead offense you know. Kill Cliff Kingsbury can get it done. You see more you would think that more points get now granted Calamari threw three touchdown passes, but it was kind of all offer not. They never really were at a point in the game where they're in control only had two hundred. Seventy some yards of offense and total to four, hundred, forty, four to the. Carolina Panthers. That matters. And I was like okay. Hopkins has an ankle thing going on he's playing through it whenever you played through an ankle things just don't always look the ways supposed to be. So I said you know what I'm going to get off them. So I traded him last night mid Sunday night football game for Michael Thomas. And TREY CONSUMMATE OF TRADE WANTS MEMPHIS FOR COLLATERAL BECAUSE I don't know when Michael Thomas is actually going to be back I'm predicting week seven. I would like to see him come back against the chargers but I have a feeling that they're probably gonNA use them for visual game and give them two extra weeks arrests because they have a bye week after the game. So I think he'll come back for week seven. Ari, have Emmanuel Sanders on my team. Plug in. Trey consummate food for all intents and purposes is look really solid. I think I meant that point. I'm going to be three in one this week already one. I'm just cruising if I lose this week. So be it. Loses Week. So be it and. If I lose the next week, I'll be three and three that might put me in a weird spot but then I'll get Michael Thomas back and hopefully at good health which I feel like Michael Thomas that good health in what traditionally, what the Saints Look like with Michael Thomas is he gets A whole lot of targets a whole lot of volume. It would be fantastic. I already have Kamara like my team is pretty solid. And I don't feel like Deandre Hopkins was the reason why I felt my team was strong in a sense I have Dak Prescott I have Kamara I have Kenny Golladay had. You Know Austin Hooper for all intensive purposes looked pretty solid. The browns can continue to do what they do. They spread the ball a lot. But if their offense clicks, he'll get the ball a little bit more no nick jobs. We'll see what different changes McCain's made there but I feel like my team has been putting successes they're having sat on guys. Who showed me signs that I might need to look elsewhere so that's why traded Hopkins and the League group got really fiery people were not happy about this trade because technically it was basically a one for one But I had the drop cage a handler. Because ended to put place for trae Smith so. I'm kind of kicking it old school right now right now I have three saints players on my roster. I used to never do that I used to tell people don't do that. Don't the draft, the whole roster which I didn't. But here I am with a bunch of guys on the saints who I like a lot. So the group chat went on fire. There are some words said in the group chat that I can't say on this podcast. People think that I made a bad trade. What I just explained to you. What would you dissect this this happened in your group chat. How would you feel? Oh I mean I felt like this was the best decision for your team. So you know you can't. You can't. Be Me down on your pick I mean. The the only thing I would probably say about the trade is that you said, you know John playing playing right now and Micheal Thomas is currently out with ankle right now. So what if he comes back and he hit his ankle still not one hundred percent you're basically back in the same deandre hopkins situation where if he rolls the wrong then he's out again and then you just were deandre Hopkins Elise he's playing and I don't expect them to have the same type of offense of results. He had this past week going forward so I can understand that plus it's like you're. Not Getting instant impact, it's like you're waiting for impact later this is okay. Later in the season I'm GonNa like a this is the long game I'm playing here. Yeah. So I think betting on I think sometimes if fantasy we we think that we need something instantly where sometimes we just need to be able to hold firm till a certain player gets back and then you that's when you feel like you can maybe take off if your team so I don't I mean you also got Troy Smith, and you said to me obviously, he'll he's getting more no targets with Michael Thomas. As he continues to make a play, placate a game obviously I know he's considered Joel Deep Threat and the saints too. So if he makes a big touchdown, he's GonNa get you points and you know honestly, if I'm assuming you're going to have him in the lineup for me is that is that accurate? Yeah, all it all depends on the matchup I feel like I guess the chargers I would probably have him in the lineup just because I think him Emmanuel Sanders are getting some some chemistry withdrew that looks good. and. I think that drew brees had his best game last week against Detroit. He looked really solid. If you actually watch them play have had some zip on the ball you know things looks. He drew of old it took four weeks. Same thing with Tom Brady. He had to shake you know yet another pick six maybe it's just Tampa Bay thing. I don't know maybe we need to start throwing some policies tour James's way but same time I don't know you know. So I guess. What are you expecting from trike? When are you? Just you just like give me ten twelve points a week and I'm good. Are you expecting like what we have me eleven eleven if are pushing starting lineup I'm expecting ilise. Eleven to twelve points in K i. mean that's doable. That's do. Say since you're playing the long game songs, he can get you what you expect. We we bay his anything wrong with the trade and like I said Michael Thomas Those get healthy the and he can stay healthy back to Michael Thomas than it looks like a very good trade and how's it 'cause broke number receivers they both get high of catches. So it's not like one guy is more of a touchdown machine than the other guy right now like I said, the cardinals just aren't playing the best offensively. That's why he's not playing the best and then obviously the saints will see what happens when he does come back. Hopefully, no injuries hopefully drew continues to play well and He probably you know you still got more procedure at the end of the day and you really are you with that I. Mean I mean I step Julio knees hurt. But I'm not going to renew with Yoga because it's like, Hey, when he's helping, we know Julio can do so and like we've seen this with Julio before, right like he'll had ankles turf toe turf ankle hamstring. So like you know he's still dominating went in the he was a fringe first round guy this year and fantasy and first game he looked like the best wide receiver in the League as far as I'm concerned and then you know injuries. Area happens again and you know thankfully for the Falcons if you drafted him. they have another number one potential guy in fantasy football. This. Yeah Cow Ridley Looks incredible. So. That's where my head is at. You know it's week four. We've had some significant things happen in the football space. But so far so good for fantasy for me. You know I started off rough and went on one. But I turn it around. I've won three straight so far. Things are things are up were up right now. I feel like I have a right to take some. Time to take some risk, you know as a thirteen week fantasy season granted we even know we finished fancy I hope. So you know things got really sketchy here in the past week and the last weekend for a different NFL teams but I think the NFL is going to push on through this this covert stuff because that's what they always planned to do. So I don't think that will change any much So I think thirteen weeks, you know I can wait a few weeks. I can wait two weeks to see Michael Thomas ends up being the guy who I think Michael. Thomas always is no matter what the situation is and if he's a little banged up, everybody's going to be a bit banged up at the end of the day. So. That's what I think is going to happen I. Think I think betrays fine. I. Don't really see all the uproar is about. Well, the uproar is is great for injured. Schrader for injured guy you get no instant value. Yeah. That's what I'm saying they want that instant. Instant value I would you want future value and stuff like that? So? People just not thinking that's the number one thing nobody's thinking here all the time I'm trying to put forward thinking I gotTa. Do stuff that brings entertainment to the podcast they don't think about this sort of stuff. I do. This is why I do this for a living and other people you know. Just, play fantasy football I live it. Hit. The Big Bucks you know what I'm saying Oh. draftkings making some money now man Real, quick. Did you do any gambling? Do, you do any I didn't. I. Knew I needed one I had a I did a parlay loss bad. Did they did a parlay on a Broncos win did win but I bet the here on points as a total thought the Bronco. Jets would have under total of forty one points not the case. Oh. Yeah. Honestly I wouldn't have. I feel like games that with two teams can be very high scoring games just goes. Yeah. They're either you know what I'm saying. Yeah Seen that one coming you know. Once again, the Thursday night game curse by me again, always one team ends up dropping all the points, the other team kind of struggles and even in this game both teams found a way to hurt me bad so. Yeah that got put the rest a partly on the heat game last night. Game. Oh, man. That was a Lebron. Where was that? What? How do you feel real quick. You got like thirty seconds. How do you feel about Lebron Court? I mean that's not suppress pricing. Brian does now sometimes where he knows the game's over just like, okay tonico, what do I mean I know something may want to stay on the court but He like all right. This game's over whatever we're. GonNa thanks game. Yeah I mean still games finished. There's still time to finish in the series right and this isn't like it was game seven loss and he just wanted to Gore at now it'd be yeah that would be more I. think this is like the whole Cam Newton thing where he left the press. People have not forgiven cam for doing that since but hey, but they'll be for your GMC fantasy football podcast for this. Tuesday. Hope you all have a good view week. We'll see you Friday talk about what's coming up in the week ahead for week five and all your interesting news. We'll see it more coaches get fired I doubt it but never know, right? Falcons still playing. So we'll figure out how had thought that went in there from boy but I don't forget review subscribe all that good stuff. Subscribe to our. 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Episode 141: Betting on Buttigieg

The Editors

1:14:10 hr | 1 year ago

Episode 141: Betting on Buttigieg

"Ooh. I'm Andhra distinctness. And I'm one of the hosts of national reviews ordered liberty podcast. My co host David French, and I discussed all the latest political news, and especially the intersections between politics culture in faith. We approach these topics with a focus on the constitution, and the importance of our founding values, and every once in a while, you can even catch us talking about are clashing views on sports and pop culture. You can listen to ordered liberty at national review dot com or subscribe on itunes, Google, play Stitcher. Tune in or wherever else you get your podcasts. With the. History and redemption in Minneapolis Virginia. Cavaliers win their first national title a year after historic loss by a number one seed to sixteen seed, we'll discuss this and nothing more. Okay. Maybe a few other things on this special who's championship edition of the editors rich, lower UVA, nineteen ninety joined as always or at least occasionally by the pride of Tennessee. David French and our special guest the guru, David Johnson out with the new book. And I mean, the new book like released this morning book the case for dividend growth and the Notorious B d Michael Brendan Dougherty. Author of the forthcoming book. My father left me Ireland. You're listening to a national review podcast. If you're listening to this podcast on Nassar dot com. We're delighted to have you. But it would be easier for you and better for us. If you made as part of your feet at Google, Stitcher. Tune in or I tunes if you like what you hear here. Please consider giving the five star review on itunes. If you don't like what you hear here. Please forget I said anything so David you. You're the basketball expert among us. So we'll go to you first rank that title game last night. It was a good game. I mean, you know, I jokingly in in the hall of fame of bad Twitter takes I jokingly sent out a Twitter poll about an hour before tip off asking people to vote on the final score. And I think the highest final score. I had was fifty one forty nine. It was two the best defences in the NC double A, and one of the things I actually thought was interesting about this game. A lot of NCW games that I don't like I don't like a lot of instability games have low scores. Just because they're playing basketball. They can't hit shots. They can't execute on offense and everyone's hustling, but yeah, they they hustle high school basketball too. And but on this you're talking about two incredibly coached very well coached defensive teams with very different defensive schemes. And you know, the tech had that swarming scheme. That's always kinda fun to watch. But you know, look, the the players rose the occasion was well played big shots. You know, it's under appreciated. You had a kid step up with who tech who has a sixty one percent foul shooter with the eyes of the world on him and just stone cold draining. Two foul shots to take up by. Three. And then Virginia does the riskier play rather than going for two goes for the tie with that corner three. And that was I mean that was tremendous bit is also tech defensive breakdown. It was everyone collapsed in on the driving player when they should. Yeah. When they should've just let him score because I would have left Virginia down one having Phalle again. But what a game. It was fantastic hats off to the Cavaliers. And did you sleep any last night rich, I slept very happy. Man. It was those amazing. I've been so defeated about UVA basketball for good reason for so long and when they and the regular season when NC state just took them into overtime. I was like, okay. This is never happening. Forget it. We're never getting to the promised land. And just that that Purdue game. You just feel like the palpable sense of getting over the hump, and they I mean, it's amazing. They last three games. They're losing by three points with five seconds left with one. Second left, and with wealth seconds left and one every single one of those those games with just a very just steely mentally tough team. And also you need need a few breaks. Did I pick up on Twitter? You're Duke fan. Did I why it was from that era from eighty nine to ninety two? It was I hated UNLV so much believe them why accurately believe them to be a basically everything that was wrong and evil in the universe. And when Bobby Hurley, and criminally or beat UNLV ninety one it forever changed my life, and I've just been a huge coach K fan for years gotten to spend time with them over the years. And I love the guy. And so and also this do team this year, you know, it was really something special in the fact they of couldn't get done chains all tournament and elaborate into when a championship. So tell us a little bit about the the new book the case for dividend growth. Yes. So it's it's my first book that is actually in the vein of what I do for a living. It's. Kind of my treatise on the investment philosophy that we have in my company the bond some group, so as you know, a little over a year ago. My first book that I ever wrote came out which David French. He wrote the forward four called crisis responsibility. And it was more in that political and cultural and kind of socio economic vein that we're out of those passions lie band, then I thought maybe I should write something in line with what I do for a living. So I took twenty years worth of my belief system about investing and packed into one book. And that's the one that comes out today. Great, congratulations. Good luck with it. Thank you. So let's dive David on Trump's taxes. Democrats said forever that they're gonna get Trump's taxes if they retook the house, which they did. And which they now are demanding under this. Obscure early somewhat bazaar provision in in the law. Would he make it? Yeah. You know, number one. I mean, Trump has promised to release his taxes. I think he should release his taxes. I think he should do voluntarily. Number two, the Democrats here. I think you know, one let me back up a minute. One of the things that I think is dispiriting about the the last couple of years political combat as we have realized how many really grossly overbroad bad laws exist in the US code. And it's almost as if you're a government official, and you want to accomplish something you just sort of send lawyers Bologne cking through either the code of the CF are the US code to find something that's gonna Lau you to do what you want. And you know, when when we saw that the Democrats are seeking Trump's tax returns, the lawyer in me says on what basis because you just can't grab a person's tax returns for any reason in the US. I mean, they're confidential by law subject, you know, certain certain very relatively narrows disclosure obligations and certain relatively narrow circumstances. And there is no pre. Acting law that requires presidents to to disclose all their tax returns. And so what was the basis, and you look, and you see that there is a law. Dating back to the nineteen twenties that essentially says tax returns are going to be confidential unless the chairman of the House Ways, and means and Senate in joint committee on station in Senate committees says we want him, and then if they want him they get him, and for any reason or no reason at all. And and now, of course, it says if you could identify the tax payer through the tax return information, you're getting than it should be only disclosed closed executive session, but, you know, congress never leaks. I mean, this is this is a ridiculous law. So on the one hand, I want Trump to disclose on the other hand, the fact that he doesn't disclose shouldn't mean, he subject to abusive legal process, and I think this laws just a terrible law. David just seems entirely. Pretextual justification forgetting their tax returns, not related any legislative purpose. They're not going to write any laws based on what is in or not in Trump's tax returns. Would he make you know, if it's a one sorry, you're wrong? Yeah. Yeah. I think that the bigger question for me. I mean, I completely agree with the other David Frum a beagle standpoint. It's very dubious, but you have to wonder at this point what why Trump tears the voters don't care like let's just take for granted. We all know what's going to be in there. He doesn't give anything charity and businesses lost a ton of money for a lot of years. The people don't want him to release it a real estate developers that it's gonna shine overnight on the ridiculous cronyism of the tax code about the depreciation of Alice's net operating loss carry forwards that this class of people gets no charity didn't make much money lost money and didn't pay. Oh, any doesn't know that? That's what's going to be in there. The voters knew and didn't care. So what does he have to hide at this point? It's really bizarre. I think ego reasons probably rank high here, Michael just admit publicly. These things are seeing these things publicly splashed. I think that's right. I mean, I think he has kind of New York or any big city real estate developers idea of self worth which is sitting in a building with your name on. It is the proof of your wealth. And the details on what you provide DeutscheBank when you're asking for loans are just a convenience that that you provide to continue sitting in that building with your name on it. I'm troubled on the on the New York side is that this law the proposed law New York. This proposed law is for one man. And I think it's a horrible legislative strategy. I think it's it's anti Republican in the small our sense of the word to write a law. Which you specked is only going to be used to enforce on one man who you don't like this is corrosive to the system. There are lots of other ways to continue putting pressure on Trump to release these tax returns. If you think it's a worthwhile strategy. You know, they're basically looking for a freebie from Albany on the strategy. And you know, like like David Barnes says I'm not sure it matters to voters. So David Johnson. Why do they have the theory that I I don't understand why people on the left of thought that see the tax returns of somehow you'll know something about his relationship with Russia. What how does that theory work? What would what would there be a tax return? That would tell you something important that we don't already I haven't seen a single thing from the left that has made any sense about why they want the tax returns. I even during the campaign. There was all the talk of hit the tax returns to see what he's really worth. And and. Most people I think no, personal income tax return doesn't have your balance sheet. I suppose there could be something that's implicitly indicting if he made some sort of statements about his cashflow and income to a vendor, and then the tax return say something different you could get issues there. But if that were the case that would be coming out anyways in their investigation of Bank fraud related, but but there's a precedent here that adds to my confusion. It's the way Trump handled the bankruptcies during the campaign because it was the moment I realized I had no idea what I was talking about about anything with the campaign because I thought this is going to kill them when it comes out that he's really had this troubled business passes. Not what everyone thinks he is. And he turned those bankruptcies into a plus for him. He said, oh, absolutely. I took advantage of the laws, and I did what I supposed to do. And everyone told me I was smart to get out of all attic city and everyone bought it. And I remember just thinking I missing something here. I've been he would just do the same thing tax return. Of course, I didn't. Pay taxes? I took advantage of the laws and makes me smart. So even the ego thing I think he would spend it to his own benefit it. I think the whole thing is confusing as far as Russia Russia. Ten ninety nine them for. David will this go to the supreme court or what what's legal pather, David French? I should say. Yeah. I mean, it's early. It's almost certain that he will just flat out defy the request which will lead to litigation and. Yeah, you know, I think it'll wind towards the supreme court, but on a not necessarily on an expedited basis, so you know, this is not like one of those disputes where you know, at the travel ban headed up there pretty quickly and other disputes sometimes head up at supreme court pretty quickly. I think this will be pretty conventional pace of of litigation which means, you know, if he would probably not make it to the spring court before the end of his first term if he's not reelected, these she will probably go away. If he is reelected, you know, maybe middle of his second term will have some sort of pre court resolution on it. I think it's it's probable just given the my general viewpoint on on a litigation is if you are. Defying the plain language of the statute, you're usually going to lose. So I think the odds are against him overall unless he can make a constitutional challenge to the law, which which is possible. But I think he's likely to lose not certain to lose. But I don't think by the time. This is finally judicata. He he may be out of office. So segue to the question to you Michael Brennan toward congress will obtain Trump's tax returns this year next year twenty twenty three never. I'm just going to say next year. I feel like this is a guess so next year bond sin. Never French never say never sorry. Michael. Something wrong when I'm not on the same side of an exit question. All right. So before we move on as many of, you know, national review has had cruises once or twice a year for a very long time. Now, these wonderful vents, we get to know, our our readers and supporters and make in some cases, really lifelong friends, so these wonderful events and to hear more about them, we go to the great former publisher and current vice president of national review, Jack valor. Ensign Jack Fowler here to encourage you to join your favorite conservatives. This August on NR's Canada. New England crews in Montreal will board Holland America's luxuriance Zaandam and over the next week. We'll sail the glorious Saint Lawrence river visit Quebec City far harbor, Boston and other great ports and enjoy great seminars and receptions throughout the sojourn prices start at just twenty four ninety nine a person get complete information at NR cruise dot com. All right. So we've already had a big surprise in the democratic race, which is the rise of mayor Pete Pete Buddha. Judge the mayor of south bend who has been knocking people socks off. It's all started. And a CNN a forum where he gave a peppery answer to a question about Mike Pence and his support for Trump and Michael seems though since booted edges kind of occupied the betta aerobic lane better than Beddoe urkel, the Aurora Keti splendid first day of of fundraising and has had some pretty good crowds. And we've been generally fairly bullish on Beto. But it seems like the young charming white guy who hasn't really done much in his political career that's basis now being occupied. But booted edge, what do you make of it? I mean, I think it is a real phenomenon. I had a. Friend who is very active in progressive, politics and democratic politics, and whose opinion I trust I don't want to blow her up right now. But she said she thought Buddha judge was actually already on track to win this thing. And Kamala be VP. So I wanna put her pick on the record and reveal it if it turns to be true. Listen, I think Democrats do like to fall in love. They love younger idealistic seeming men, the man from hope in Bill Clinton they loved Jimmy Carter. And I think they still view this in many ways, Barack Obama was that man in two thousand eight right? Young candidate that taps into their idealism in a way. Democrats I think engage in politics where they they they built up this massive amount of cynicism and distrust of the system during Republican administrations, and then they want candidate that comes along and kind of transforms all of that pent up energy into something that they feel positive about. And that's obviously not how Republicans treat their candidates. So Buddha judges making a play for that that kind of dramatic role in this primary. I was kind of refreshed and impressed by what I took to be his his sort of man full defense of the Piscopo church, and it's kind of moral revolution. I oppose that revolution theologically in Sacramento Lee as a Catholic, but it was just interesting to hear him say in these terms. Well, Mike Pence is a problem with my creator. I'm kind of I kind of like that. He said that because I do think a Piscopo Lena's still maintains its function as the social doctrine that is most likely to be imposed on Americans by law. Really? Well, yeah. I mean, I in a way like if you look at the decline of the the mainline Protestant church attracts perfectly with the rise of the nuns, the religious nuns and oh N ES. And what you find is. There's there'll be a moral and in Sacramento revolution, the pimple church, and it's followed on three years later by legislative pushes by liberals to make these changes obligatory for all evangelical and Catholic institutions as well. I think in the long run of history, we're going to say like, the Piscopo church was the, you know, American church unacknowledged, and unofficial you gotta write this. You know, I mean Jodi Jodi bottom wrote a book like this few years ago, and I think everyone should freed that book called an ANC. Age. But anyway, it was just. It strikes me that that is America's religion by default. Even if people have stopped attending these churches. So anyway, I think Democrats are energized by Buddha judge, and you know, if he's going to be a more energetic and slightly more on the ball Beto. I you know, maybe he has a shot. I think after Donald Trump's election, we really can't discount anything. So David bouncing what do you make of just look at booed edges resume, and it is impossible to get more credentialed marriage critic elitist resume than his should that be something in his favor or or something that should make us more suspicious of him. I mean in terms of the electoral, you know success. I think it will help him with the left. I think that if he were running against Trump in primary it would hurt him in significant way. But actually, what is most interesting to me, the thirty seven year old thing. I don't think will hurt him. I don't know if I know in a primary won't general. I'm not sure yet if his you know, gay sexual orientation would hurt him. But the fact that he is not running a little bit to the right of the kind of far left opponents in the primary that he's actually with them on single payer and green new deal and things like that. That's the part that I'm I think is going to kind of trip up a little if he was willing to be everything needs to check all those boxes. He's the intellectual antidote to Trump Harvard. Oxford military service young he's got eight checks all those boxes, but then was kind of. Reasonable on economic issues. I think there would be a lot of people that would open up. So is he is he because I think there's this divide in them field where there are people who say I'm in favor of the green green new deal Medicare for all who don't actually sign up for the specific legislation in. That's just do top line. That's where he would be. So he's a top line hop. Yeah. So I want to jump on David bonds point about the meritocratic nature of Buda judge where he has all these qualifications. What I find interesting about that is that he's he went back to south bend and served south bend. Where a lot of people degrees would say I'm going to start guard and start making a fortune or I'm going to go off to London or South Asia or New York DC. So like, I said in this idea of like energy, that's transformed. I think Democrats would love to transform what they've felt as their own sense of hostility. Towards red America their own sense of alienated from the heartland. I think they would love to use a guy like peach Buddha, judge and say, actually, no we're gonna take all of our credential ISM all our educational our good intentions and serve people who don't know any better what they really need. So on an emotional level. Right. I I'm the opposite of Nate silver on this unemotional gut level. I think people to judge answers the dramatic question. That's been posed by this era for Democrats that that David French the that attitude, we're gonna go explain to people who don't know any better, traditional liberal attitude. That's actually much better than what was the implied. Hillary Clinton attitude is which was just we're waiting for you to die face and go away and not bothers anymore. Well, you know, Buddha judge broadcasts. I'm a progressive. And I don't hate you. I'm a progressive and actually. Kind of like you, even if you're, you know, even if you oppose me, which is a distinguishing himself a quite a bit from some of the others in the field, especially say and Elizabeth Warren who's broadcasting I'm progressive and everyone who's against us is the enemy. But one thing I would one thing I'd say about him is is far as. Leaving himself with some wiggle room. I mean, he's on Medicare for all he sort of said, okay? We'll that could mean Medicare for all or it could mean Medicare for all who want Medicare. In other words, this public option idea, which is believe it or not sort of anchoring there. Right edge of the democratic primary right now. I you know, the thing about him. I think that is interesting and injury Sullivan wrote this that when the American people want to change they often just go opposite of what they had before. You know, Trump is in many ways just so fundamentally different from Obama. It's almost the, you know, almost a textbook example of that. We've had many other examples of that in American history. So for example, when the Knicks era ended with accepted that short Gerald Ford interlude with Jimmy Carter who's this southern Baptist Sunday school teacher who walked on his inaugural parade and was sort of shunned the trappings of the office. If if the American people are going to turn away from Trump, which is far from assured. It's stands to reason that they will turn away pretty decisively into more in not not turn towards a democrat version of Trump perhaps towards a sort of a democrat version of anti-trump and hard to get more opposite from Donald Trump than thirty seven year old combat vet Rhodes, scholars speaks eight languages can actually find casick's stand on a map. You know, the the, you know, he's gonna have a direct contrast with Trump. But, you know, look, I mean, it's a lot of this also feels kind of premature because as we have seen these candidates in the operatives for these candidates have no qualms there. There are no qualms right now about ripping each other to shreds and during this primary, and you know, woke Twitter hasn't fully gotten a hold of him yet. It's it's going to be very very interesting because as of right now, you know, all the Democrats are broken down into these sort of different factions, and there is no love lost between them. So David on the substance of Bitta judge. He tells us something interesting, which is that there seems to be the core. Consensus across these candidates may we haven't had heard from Biden about it yet. But about changing the institutions of American government and Buddha judge for the reasons that David outlines relative moderate and the democratic field, but not on any of this stuff. You know, he wants to the supreme court that appoints itself he wants to do away with the electoral college, and it just it just seems as though there that that is a lowest common denominator. Now, those sort of things for the Democratic Party. What is the issue that he has a moderate view on? What's the what's the issue giving him moderate, bona fides? You know, he want statehood for Puerto Rico in DC, the issue with Pence what David just had a moment ago is correct that he has his kind of likable posture with opponents. But then when Joe Biden said that might pensin is a guy he's woke up and said, no, he's not he's hateful and the holds two things that are contrary to what my God believes. I would I would love to have that theological discussion with them. But I'm just curious where the other than maybe kind of style where the moderate stuff gets to be applied to him. Because so far he said he liked the seventy percent top marginal rate. He said greener deal was great framework, and then his single payer kinda nuance too little, but you know, I haven't seen it actual policy example. And in fact, we've seen plenty of the opposite, the Puerto Rico statehood thing I think you get him in a lot of trouble to day that he David he will go to chick fillet. Let's say chick flick. One thing. I think that it might be what woke Twitter starts tearing them apart on or it might be a way for him to. I don't know if this is a way to burnish, you're moderate credentials. But as mayor it seems he did try to institute programs to accelerate the demolition of houses that were occupied by squatters or that he thought were subject to blight or trying to to up the fines on homeowners who weren't doing improvements that the city said needed to be done in order to kind of drive some residents out that maybe a thousand homes thousand days. Yeah. I think some of those getting up to code and some of them was just just bulldozing. So he did his job trucks much. Well, that would be interesting. You know, it's I think David was saying how he believes that they're gonna have to go. After once you'll Twitter it gets a hold of and so forth. But the obvious voted ability is experiencing a hundred thousand people I think it's a little less than a hundred thousand I go to south bend every other year for the USC Notre Dame game. And it's it's the small and and does that matter anymore. Well, obviously, Michael said this moment ago, I would've said emphatically, of course, matters two years ago. And now I say I don't have any idea what I'm talking about. Because apparently a dozen. But I mean, if we were gonna have a mayor with no federal office or statewide office experience, I would have guessed it would be a big city mayor if they were going to get to the top. And I think that camera and Corey because they're the ones that are getting kind of inch down by. I mean, he's pulling ahead of Corey I think that they're going to have to go after them for the lack of experience thing, and that becomes a real great general election opportunity, if he were to get through so David French tying up loose end from last week, Biden subsequent to recording semi apologize say sorry. But just said he he gets it that he shouldn't smell the hair of women. He doesn't know an eskimo kiss them all that sort of stuff, and then and then kind of made fun of it. I think in. Totally inbounds way where he'd, you know, hug someone on stage and say, oh Lonnie gave me position to to hug me, which is caused outrage on on woke Twitter just seems to me that he's absent some, you know, groping alligator real groping allegation that he's he's perhaps found a way to thread is way through this one. Yeah. You know, if he's smart he's going to ignore what Twitter because he has no path to the nomination by pandering to those guys in and in and on point to that today. The New York Times has this really interesting. The upshot has this really interesting look at the difference between Democrats and social media and other Democrats and two things stand out one. The Democrats are not sort of really active on social media are the majority of Democrats and number two the Democrats who are not as so active on social media are more moderate and more conservative so fit. Fifty three percent of Democrats off social media identified themselves as moderate or conservative only twenty nine percent of Democrats on social media. Seventy percent of Democrats off social media say political correctness is a problem in the US, less than half Democrats on social media. So this is this is Joe Biden sweet spot in and I think the Democrats on social media. The especially the woke Twitter version of social media have have great deal about their relative power simply because until people start voting. They're kind of the only ones who are heard. And so, you know, that's Biden's laying. Now, the the thing that could really trip him up as if he surrounds himself self the staff that never gets their nose out of Twitter in which case, you know, he'll be urged apologize for this apologize for that. But if Biden sort of stays true to Biden sort. State sticks with his sort of core personality wraps himself around the Obama flag to the extent as a path that's a pass. But then we'd also have to see something from him that we've never ever ever seen before which is a competent primary campaign. So apparently, no young people want to work for Biden. So maybe the staff and in that respect won't won't be a problem. But Michael exit question to you rank from one to six the top Democrats in terms of likelihood of winning the nomination one most likely six least likely one to six okay? Let's try. One. Bernie Sanders is my pole position candidate to wildcard I'm gonna see Pete Buddha. Judge, you know, I do think Democrats wanna fall in love with a young guy. Three also in that lane beta aerobic. I think if if it's not to judge it's beta in that lane four. Kamala Harris in the sense that it seems like harasses people are kind of wired in with New York Times Washington Post and are able to get a lot of dirt dumped on their opponents. Whether my a met five now. Cory Booker stages some improbable comeback. I think we're pulling up the edge now and number six. I don't know Tulsi Gabbard. Why? Tulsi Gabbard guy has to catch him self and put tolsey in there. Theory of that of be I don't know Assad poisons. I I don't know. But. Yeah. We'll see that that was very manful effort, David bots. Yeah. Bernie Sanders still at one, but I would put chem- further up in four. I think. That she would be the candidate. I would like to see nominated really. And I think once you get into that general election that identity politics side, her charisma. I can't stand her. She's my Senator in the great state of California, but she is just complete anti Hillary as far as her like ability to connect our presentation, she she'll have a little charisma factor that Hillary didn't have and it's just downright dangerous. And so she scares me more, but she doesn't fundraising prowess. She's definitely going to have the politics ticket. Now, they're they're going with a lot of white males right now which impede and Biden, and Bernie, and and Bago and so she could fill in that lane. Corey I wouldn't put in the top six at this point. I cost my list altogether. But it's hard to do it, you know, because kinda changes so quickly and all you can look to right now. Like, we're supposed to be a little more sophisticated and just to faulting the name idea. And I think the polls mostly reflect aim ID, but the fundraising does say a lot and Bernie's still it's really impressive. How he's kept his fundraising. Apparatus interesting. The map is good for him too early. Yep. Could and California being earlier helps cameras. Well, David French. You know, look, I I'm I'm not going to underestimate Bernie, and this I would have to put him in the pole position early on. And I'm gonna I'm gonna say that he did something really shrewd where he sort of doubled down on his lifelong view of immigration, which he you know, he sort of anchored down the right edge of the democratic field on immigration recently. When he was saying, you know, look this open, borders, ideas, just a bad idea. So I'm I'm putting Bernie at the as the front runner, and after that, we're gonna go with three Bs and a k Beto but digest I never can pronounce his name consistently Biden and Kamla. I think each one of those sort of are equally it's tough to different differentiate between those three as far as their chances. And then after that, I'm just gonna. To go with field because somebody somebody will be flash more one or more people will have their moment. I mean, we're so such a long way away. So somebody else's going to have a moment. I literally have no clue it is. And you know, Elizabeth Warren really seems to be fading. Assault putting her third and Massachusetts, which is pretty surprising. And that was their best senators. So this would be my take out say, I agree. I think we had EMMY on this Bernie number one. You know, he's he's got the fundraising. He could really go one two. And I wa and New Hampshire I go number two player to be named later or David puts it field as just a nod to modesty. I think we're just getting started. And they're they're gonna be some crazy things three Biden just because as different pointed out there just a lot of Democrats aren't woke Twitter Democrats, and he has has a really good claim on them. And maybe just need, you know, forty percent to win this nomination that I'd put Buddha judge number four number five. Stacey Abrams and number six Beto Rourke. Commenter feels definitive. Settled the one dark horse. I do think some debate moment. I haven't kinda Carly Fiorina type moment. A Julian Castro deserves to be in the top six. No one's heard of him. He's getting no traction these raising money. But if he were to get an opportunity, he has the talent, use charisma for sure comma, Harris, and you know, her much better than I just she's just doesn't seem very good to me very likable. Now, maybe they don't want someone likable maybe like the on prosecuted. I'm going to prosecute the case against Trump thing works, but it seems to me Stacey Abrams who's actually also done nothing which seems actually to to help people rather people early early in the process. There's this seems certain Winston to her rich. You're not allowed to say that comma Harris's not likeable. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Out to a year ago. And I said Hillary Clinton wasn't likeable and everyone just get that feeling like I've just done something wrong. I don't know what it is. Nothing. So I get the come Allah, has charisma argument would I don't know. And what I don't think democrat voters. No, according to the polls why you she running right? She's she's gearing up. She's got top-flight consultants and staff she's inherited some, you know, the leftover bits of the Clinton machine that are scattered like Russian oil tankers at the end of nineteen Ninety-one. Okay, fine. But why she running I think I have an idea of why Biden is running or even Buddha judge or or certainly know why Bernie Sanders is running. Why's beta reading? That's I think some of these guys are mean Beddoes running in commas running because they can be president. I mean, this is I mean, this is it. I mean, if if you're if you're if there's a school of thought that that I think has got some credibility that sort of says, there's a shot you have. And if you miss it, you miss it. And you know, right now, if there was going to be a time when there would be somebody who could say, okay, wait a minute. Like, look, let's just get real. Where all progressives were all going to basically, hire the same people were all going to pursue basically the same policies. So let's find the person who can win. Let's find the person you can turn out two hundred fifty thousand more people in Wisconsin the way Obama did or increase turn out in Detroit the way Obama did in flip some of these states back blue, you know, that's the logic. I mean, the you can't really say it like that. But I think the real story is some of these guys know are feel like. If they could get one on one with Trump that they can be Trump. And that that's the reason why they're running period. Yeah. Feels like a nomination worth having. And then is just they're exceptions to this. Obviously Rick Perry the first time around, but almost never do lose. Anything by running for president, especially have some confidence in your own own abilities and have something going on like Buddha JR. If nothing else happens to him in this race. And just kind of fizzles out is still huge upside him just from what's happened. So far when you can imagine him for cabinet post or something like that. If in future democratic administration, I would say in the case of camera. It's almost a foregone conclusion, I think she would be the VP pick if any of the white males that we talked about end up getting the nomination, she would be pretty obvious election. So not only different cabinet positions and overall brand of Asian little book and TV and things like that. But I think in this case the actual VP side. There's a couple of them that have a pretty good inside track on that. So let me can I David David Johnson and question my exposure. Ecologist to double down on on riches unforgivable error of written error of of raising ability. My experience of her is that she comes across as almost relentlessly condescending. And I have not been had the prolonged exposure that you have is a resident of the great state of California. But that seems to be the kind of demeanor that a lot of progressives like because it's sort of lecturing the plebes until. But it it. It is not it is not. Huma, very condescending. And his base still would have described him as very likeable it hurt in hurricane his everything you're saying that Richard Richardson them over to go. I would agree with like for me. And you guys we don't find it like -able that condescending, and there's a real sense of entitlement. And here's some of the stuff that will end up coming out. She is brutal to her staff. She is a total premadonna the joke on her as she doesn't like any four star hotels. It's not enough stars. You know, that kind of stuff that could end up becoming a problem that I don't think you're gonna have with with Pete. And you notice I only use his first name just taking the easy path. I think that beta beta in these guys aren't gonna have some of that so cameras got this unlikable almost I guess you could say Hillary aspect to her right? But I'm referring to woke Twitter, the people that were that energy is that millennial crowd and a lot of the various aspects of their base. They find that personality aspect likable for the same reasons, I suppose that you and I find it unlikable. All right. So before we move on let me tell people about an are plus excuse me, the new digital subscription services. Actually, not that new. It's the digital subscription on national view dot com, all sorts of mazing benefits, including access to all recount and clean for the print magazine, and the web exclusive content that is behind our metered paywall that is increasingly encroaching on our free content. There are almost no ads if you're on an our plus no ads you'll see on articles. So you won't get distracted by any of noxious advertising trying to read our content. You get the ability to comment on after you dot com, which is the exclusive privilege of in our plus members. You can also be part of a private Facebook group where there's a robust ongoing discussion and you get invited exclusively to calls events. 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And there are people out here out there who think just in the cause of social Justice, travelers transiting, those airports should not have the opportunity to have some amazing juicy original chicken. Sandwiches and welfare us. Yeah. This is a bigger deal than I think people realize, but well, let me say this. I think out here in the red states where I am people realized that this is a big deal. I think the progressive world doesn't realize that they're poking the bear again here in in. Here's here's why think this. This is number one. It comes across as shockingly extremist to do this on two counts. One is just flagrantly unconstitutional. I mean flagrantly unconstitutional and now I don't have a right to open a restaurant in a in an airport. Nobody's has a right to open a restaurant in an airport. But I do have a right for a government official to make a decision about my application to open a restaurant free of punitive, a free of punitive moment. Retaliating? It's me for my freedom of expression and just to make this sort of really concrete. And this is this is what we call black letter law. And there's a great case out in California where a bunch of schools school district in California punished the owner of what's called a living history farm. It's a farm where people sort of replicate history reenact history. A punish the owner for posting things on his personal private Facebook page like comparing Kirsten gillibrand a somebody. We haven't talked about today to an ice clean or an ice sculpture saying other negative things about Democrats, and they cancelled all their field trips to this living history farm, depriving it of a big pile of revenue and apo- Obama appointee. Judge just ruled in favor of this of this farm saying you can't do that you can't retaliate on the basis of private expression. So number one, it's fly. Flagrantly unconstitutional and number two thing. Let's just Pondimin about how extremist this is. This is what this is why they're canceling Chick-fil-A because Chick-fil-A supported the Salvation Army and the fellowship of Christian athletes in a very small donation to a group home the fellowship of Christian, athletes and the Salvation Army are out of bounds. Now that is nuts. That is absolutely nuts. If you're going to say about those organizations that it is out of bounds for private corporation have anything to do with them in this sort of, you know, in the charitable way. I mean, that's basically every evangelical church every Catholic relief organization every religious organization that isn't sort of main line piss Capelli as which I didn't know NBD loved so much. So this is really Michael I wrote a column about that this this this week as well. And just the Salvation Army, really. I mean, you know, millions and millions of people served every single year they raised two billion dollars from private sources every year and the beef that they have against them. There's this think progress, quote unquote report about Chick-fil-A giving that as highlighted this stuff and and been the hook for a lot of the the left to attack. But I is just that the Salvation Army says we're going to buy buy local anti-discrimination laws. So that that's like, you know, that's not enough to say you're going to abide by the local anti-discrimination laws fellowship, Christian athletes. If you sign up to be a leader in keeping with their faith. You have to say I'm not going to engage in homosexual acts. You have to say I'm not gonna engage in heterosexual acts outside of marriage on not going to drink. I'm not gonna smoke. I'm not gonna use drugs. So they they make that into an anti-gay thing in the home that David mission. I looked it up a little bit yesterday is. This home for troubled young men, Christian run in of Dahlia Georgia that the founder of Chick-fil-A support it from the very beginning. And they what they use against them. Their few blog posts from a couple years ago that were were intemperate, and, you know, set some anti-feminists and things in some things about sources of homosexuality that people don't like, but it should like one or two blog posts from years ago. And again, you're disregarding every outs of good this home does for for troubled kids. So it's really insane and very disturbing. So there's a couple of things one. I actually don't actually think all those cases you cite are pretextual. I mean, this is about the Chick-fil-A CEO saying he was against same sex marriage and. Really? I mean, really what I see going on at the deepest level is it's an aim for this moral gala -tarian ISM to monopolize the social aims of every significant institution in the country. Right is that you cannot have a Catholic hospital that that gives health care in a way that's consistent with Catholic belief if it comes into conflict with our contested interpretation of what equality means you cannot have the prestige of owning a major fast food chain and running a major fast food chain rapidly becoming the third largest in the country. By volume and hold to these beliefs, which are deemed abberant and effectively deviant. Now, one of the problems. I think we're going to face at least people like David I who who who have very publicly dented with our churches, and and sign up to the doctrines of our church is that the constitution and the popular understanding of it for you know, forbids the establishment of religion. However, it does not forbid because it never foresaw. The it does not forbid the establishment of gala -tarian ISM. It does not forbid the establishment of feminism. It does not forbid these of all these other doctrine, moral doctrines and political reform movements that are contested that. Are not provable that kind of put forward a metaphysics of their own in a way, those things liberals feel no compunction. They don't feel like I am overriding someone's rights when I when we do this. When we chase out these institutions from the public square or redefine their mission in in our terms. And so it's going to be difficult for conservatives. I think to make the argument we've we have good so far we have very good supreme court case law, and I think that will hold up for a time. But you see some of these lower court rulings and think okay, if some of the lower court rulings that are going against us or if the culture's so far against us that apple the biggest company in the world comes down like a ton of bricks on on a state that wants to religious freedom restoration act. I I mean, I think we have to think culturally in strategically as well as legally in these cases, David bonds in what? What do these do you? What is social conservatives do especially if they're views on sexual morality, which are are now. Increasingly in the hate say it in the mainstream culture defined as inherently hateful the views that Brock Obama had about twenty minutes ago. And that now have become hateful. They didn't go. You know? That's the thing is he went from saying, he believe marriage, marriages one man one woman saying volved on the issue. And that's obviously now where the entire left is. But it isn't that for those of us who hold socially traditional conservative views. And that was one case Michael where you could be talking to either David about us, holding views of our church these issues. Isn't that? Now, we're on the other side of it politically. But immediately went to hateful, and and just completely not to be tolerated. And the thing is, but one example is all over corporate America. There isn't a fortune one hundred company could think of that isn't more or less in the same boat. I spent many years as a managing director at Morgan Stanley, the cultural Marxism was off the charts, and and things like chick, filet get into the press, and it and they shine a light on it. As sense. You could argue from my perspective. It's a good thing. Because I don't think very many people understand the severity of what we're up against. And they're still kind of understandable tendency to want to nor the culture war. So yeah, my my view not only as a Christian, but as a conservative engaged in the public square there isn't any need to to back down. I think that compassion. And softness intact and all those things are always important from a wisdom standpoint. But as far as right and wrong of the issues. I think it's perfectly appropriate for people to be forward in their views on it. But see in this case, and it was one of the real important things. I believe in your article rich. They're not Chick-fil-A is not. We're not talking about them. Not hiring gay people are discriminating policies or benefits or some kind of issue like that. And for the most part when he gets into Christian colleges on their hiring. They've tried pushing that issue I still think that dam breaks at some point. But we've held the line there, you know. But like as far as in a Chick-fil-A, they're they're not having even accused of any discriminatory hiring practices. So this is rank cultural Marxism, and I honestly believe that there is still a significant amount of people that would have a more left-leaning view on the issue that would not support this discrimination Chick-fil-A, so David French exit question to you the renewed campaign against Chick-fil-A will have what effect on negative effect on the restaurant chain, substantial negligible. No. I'm gonna cheat for minute and respond to something David said, and then I answer I think this is a really this is one of the most important cultural points, and this is one of the most culture important cultural questions for the next quarter century of American life is how do we respond to what rod Dreher calls woke capitalism. It is this this. Essentially, the commandeering of the mechanisms in the power of corporate America to push very specific kind of social and cultural agenda, and I think that one of the things that Christians are going to have to do for lack of a better term is man up because I think what's happening is you have an awful lot of Christians who've caught in used to the notion that have gotten used to sort of keeping their head down and staying quiet. And then when you keep your head down, and I'm not talking about engage in insure your views in any way, that's anything other than loving, gracious, respectful. But. Christians need to need to be known in their institutions that they need. They need to be known in the sense that they need the institutions need to know, they exist because it will right now, we have a problem, and I and I get comments, and I get to Twitter Deums and emails all the time from people, and they say, I'm at Google or I'm at Facebook, or I met, you know, Netflix or this major banker that major Bank, and I just don't say a word, and I think that that's got to stop because one of the things that it does is it creates an impression that there is no real internal opposition in that all reasonable right thinking people agree with this progressive agenda, and if the person right next to someone in a cubicle or in the boardroom or in the meeting raises their hand and says, no I disagree. And I've been in that position been in that position in big law and have been in that position when I was. Teaching it at Cornell law school, it is difficult. It is difficult. But you might be surprised at the results when you actually raise your hand and say something so that's my jumping off by soapbox. And then the to answer your question as far as Chick-fil-A, the health Chick-fil-A of business if past practice is any repairs performances any predictor future results, which I know David bonds, and I should never ever say. It's gonna help. And dotty on the question of the business stuff. It's going to be nil unless a court litigation goes away that we don't expect currently given the precedence of the the courts on religious liberty and non-discrimination in contracting. I'm gonna cheat to and just add that I think David's exactly right on how Christian should act within these corporations those are outside of it who are in positions like the day, David French and myself, I think we need to be professional and aggressive. I mean, apple has done more to protest religious freedom in Indiana than it's done to champion religious liberty in China. I mean, affectively Tim cook is promoting the Chinese communist view religious, Reggie regulation. And he needs to be called out in exactly those terms, and we need to do that across the culture. And across corporate America, we need we need to just pointed out that this. This is an attempt to do. I I'm not as big on the term, cultural Marxism, but it is Soviet like in its in its jealousy and hatred of civic institutions that define their own aims, David. Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna Inver something David French said that I know he would agree with he's exactly right people in these corporate positions, whether they'd be kinda mid level poise or senior level people have to have more courage. But I do think David also implies that those people are themselves indispensable in their companies. See the more talent and gravitas. They have and more presence that we as conservatives and believers able to stab wish in vocational America. The more coverage we will have to resist these efforts as far as the answer to the question. It will help Chick-fil-A, but I do not just say that as economic. Answer, but feel Adriana one. Because I think that God will bless them. Keep in mind. This is a restaurant than is only open six seven of the time still just to make more about that all the rest, so sometimes obedience works, but the real winner and all of this Donald Trump's reelection efforts. So I say nil the because. Chick-fil-a is backed off, you know, they they. When this first happened in two thousand twelve they said, okay, forget it. We're not we're not funding in any way, any politically engaged socially, conservative groups or pronouncing on gay marriage anymore, and they actually this latest controversy. They cut off this home in in Georgia, and they're big business there. That's the right there about making making money. But so the what's most disturbing here is not what will happen to Chick-fil-A. It's just the broader trend that will grind other people with with fewer means underfoot. So one last thing let's get to just really quickly exit question style. Which is the ouster of cure Ston. Nielsen at DHS go to eat. I Michael Brennan, Tori, the new s secretarial make a positive impact in US policy at the border. Yes. Or no. No because the only solutions at the border legislative and that personal have no power to move congress. No. Because of what he just said French. No because every syllable of NBD's statement was correct say, yes. Because. Minor difference minor difference. But apparently the the beef with Nielsen besides just Trump hating her because the numbers are going higher at the border is the bureaucracy. Particularly USCS IS was not doing enough. Internally in terms of regulation, especially at these credible. Fear interviews there the first process for step in the asylum process. Ninety percent of of the migrants from Central America passed the credible. Fear interview really fixing that does require congress. But the things you can do at the margin doesn't have to be ninety percent. And there are other regulations coming out of DHS. They want to challenge this Florez settlement. They wanna make it alive issue. Again. They wanna regulation to come out that someone will challenge to get it back in the courts things like that that that haven't happened. So I think the next day sexual very focused on these things they obviously don't end the border crisis. But they'll make a positive difference at the margin. So before we go, let's hit a few other things. David french. You're a fan of show billions. Yes. Huge fan of the show billions. It's I'm going to say it's not going to be in the pantheon. Sort of this platinum age of television of the best shows ever like breaking bad or? Game of thrones. But it is it has sheer fun. And it's essentially the story it started off as the story of the confrontation between this hedge fund billionaire, and this the US attorney in the southern district of New York. And it it is over the top. It's often hilarious. It's incredibly it's incredibly compelling television. It is just in this. And the reason why I the reason why I picked it is just this past Sunday was one of the best episodes. I've seen of the show's entire run. It was remarkable. And as the thing I like about it is you've talked to folks who are sort of in that hedge funds curies industry, and they watch it constantly you talked to people who are in the US attorney's offices. They watch it constantly, and I also found out another community of people watches it constantly, and that's NBA basketball players Levitt. And as do hip hop stars. Love bill. Millions. It's it's kinda got this like subculture following in multiple industries and check it out start with season. One episode one like all premium cable shows, it's almost as if the first episode of any new season of urge news series of premium cable show is designed to be the most shocking possible episode, but hanging there after that the first fifteen minutes, and you won't regret it, Andy or sons in trucks. Yeah. So my two year old son is still developing vocabulary. And basically his favorite word is truck and his second favorite word is fire truck. But it's just a great way though. I mean, he's forces to rewatch an hour long video on YouTube about fire trucks, a couple of times, they get the tea and truck it's not like Huck no-no gets a t in truck, but he doesn't he doesn't quite get the are and fire so file truck. But in a weird way, it's great because a two year old even two year old expands your world. I mean, we were walking around town on these nice, warm evenings. And my son just demands to visit the the fire station, and then two blocks later, the volunteer fire station and the local firemen are happy to let this to your boy run in and stand up stand on the trucks at great said David Johnson NCW tournament. It really was a wonderful tournament. It was awful out of fun. I in mystify someone who I hold regard. I do David French some stuff that he's I I thought he was joking that kind of dug deeper and he. He poked back, and I ROY was serious and I had to stop conversation because I didn't want to use my regard for him. But I mean there really is nothing in sports like March madness the college tournament and just wonderful wonderful fund. Right. It was so yeah, I've been thinking a lot about David being wrong about this and trying to figure out just how and I think maybe the analogy would make is like NHL hockey, obviously superior to Olympic hockey, certainly Olympic hockey when was really Olympic hockey, and it was amateurs at least except for the Soviets but Olympic hockey, still greater spectacle. You know, at least for you know, three weeks, or whatever it is. And that's sort of the analogy would make with with NCWA basketball. Do you want to respond, David? Yeah. I mean, March March madness is a nice gimmick. For. Brilliant brilliant, little gimmick. For for four weeks. People. Never tune into college basketball have a exciting ride with some up sets in watch college students, go insane and go crazy. It's kind of fun. But you know, the reality of college basketball is on the Dacian. Well, yes. Actually. Yes, I wasn't even going to go there. It's so funny to me that that conservatives defend the it's really interesting. On just going by sort of the way, the demographics of it. All breakout. Conservatives usually fiercely defend the CWA, and progressives fiercely defend the NBA just as a general rule, yet one of them has capitalist and the other one is just fundamentally exploitive and extremely woke which is the NC double A. And and you know, so I wasn't even the go there. But I'm with you on that. I as a matter of fact, I completely totally support Nike paying the college players and their families. What is capitalist about the licensed cartel called the National Basketball Association will start a team up and and start competing with NBA team. You can't you can start a professional basketball team and start competing with the NBA as many people have tried to do as the did. And did it. So successfully that the NBA merged with it. But the NC double A. I mean what you're watching. There is the NC double A reaping billions of dollars in revenue off of this this gimmick tournament, and and then vacuuming it up into this extraordinary woke bureaucracy of the NC double A and the member schools, and you know, the funny thing is especially like when you're in the SEC, see rich. You've got me started. I really did. You know, the funny thing is like just I love college football. I can't help it. I grew up in the south ledge full of college football where there's no exploitation in college football. No, no there is there is, but I was just going to say, it's so. Funny. If you go to an SEC football game, you would think that the member institutions of the southeastern conference where the most hashtag merica patriotic institutions in the world based to the way that with the way that the game day rituals, the anthem and the flyovers and all this and all those millions and millions of dollars pouring into the bluest woke cast parts of the state. And and that's what the CW is doing and conservatives are like, yeah. So I just I don't know bad basketball bad institution except last night's game was good. So I'm not a huge music. I, but I've been reading up on the history of the the blues something I've been working on and just just looking back to the origins of the blues in these work songs in the fields or on the trains, and these hollers that on that. Workers slaves and others. Said sunk to themselves or to others or or just keep time in the fields or at work. And they're just on believable. There's this musicologist and folklorist John Lomax that recorded some of these work songs and hollers in the mid thirties and library, congress has available. And if you just listen to them, you just they pull your heartstrings and on believable way. It remind me of a line that Bill Buckley said of Whittaker chambers, Whittaker chambers voice being magnificent, tone, speaking to our time from the center of sorrow from the center of the earth. So before we move on. Let's get our editor's picks. In before we land this plane, m B? What's your pick? Mine is John O'Sullivan who wrote this week on Brexit things that pieces, titled if Brexit fails sodas Britain Jonah disagreed about maze. Withdrawal. I've been for it, and he is against it. But this column, and basically a lot of John's writing is just a great case for for his way of looking at British politics, which is a bit deeper than mine. Even though I've I've been obsessively following this. He is looking at larger trends that are transforming the Tory and labour party and he's essential. David French with your pick. This. The San Francisco is slowly committing suicide piece that has been just. So widely read justifiably over the last couple of days at national review. And it is you know, it is it is really tapping into something that I think is is critically important in that is the fate of our major cities as they are both becoming sort of like this exclusive playground of the of the rich the trans the international rich one of the statistics in there. That was so interesting to me was the rent average rent for a one bedroom apartment in San Francisco is approaching about four thousand dollars a month. So you have these cities that are simultaneously mind bogglingly prosperous in also decaying and fundamental ways. As was laid out in the article and Jack Fowler had followed up with something very similar about Seattle in the corner. That was also really compelling, and I you know, I think that this is a cat part of the frustration that we see with a lot. Younger voters right now that lot of us who don't live in these cities. Find puzzling is it is really expensive and hard to live in these places unless you're just ridiculously wealthy and that does create a degree. I think of justifiable frustration. They would bouncing. Yeah. Mine kind of ties in a little bit today. But it's Kevin Williamson's new article this up it's complicated, and it kind of delves into the messy -ness of government solutions. And when you get past the rhetoric of things the complexity that exists in solving various issues, like affordable housing, which is a great example of one that oftentimes more government sets out to do the worst. They make it. But as is typical of Kevin this is a really really good piece. So my pick is Matt Continente cover story in the new issue on the thought of Charles Krauthammer, Matt has really made himself one of the foremost historic. Hinz and explicatives of conservatism as a as a flossy and body of thought, and he delved into Charles's work in and thought in it a really valuable way to five thousand word essay. But well worth your time. So that's it for us. Even listening to national review podcast. Rebroadcast re transmission or account of this game without the express written permission of national. You magazine is strictly prohibited podcast has been produced by the incomparable, Sarah. Should he makes it sound better than we deserve? Thank you. David french. Thank you, Michael Brennan dorey, author of the forthcoming my father left me Ireland. And thank you, David Bonderman, author of the book out right now. Literally right now the case for dividend growth. Please check it out and thanked especially to all of you for listening. We are the editors wa who.

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11/11: Weekend Recap - Young RBs Emerge (Fantasy Football Podcast)

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11/11: Weekend Recap - Young RBs Emerge (Fantasy Football Podcast)

"Fantasy football today from CBS sports. Email us at fantasy football CBS. I dot com. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Here. Some of. All right body Sunday night. So we are rolling on fantasy football today. Dave, richard. And recapping week Ted scale of zero to Ted how was week ten gumming. Oh, it was a ten. It was off the charts. Best week of the season before I talk about week ten I've got some regulating that I have to do. I. Before you do that we already did this on Friday show. I know you were there. But we know something happened that was beyond the scope of anything. I thought was possible. Okay. What you were you were given Moreland MAC back. And I understand that. I understand the reasoning behind it. Sometimes you have people in your league. They don't pay as much attention as everyone else. We're just playing for fun. You don't want those people to just be terrible. So you give them players back when they accidentally drop. That's fine. That part I'm okay with thanks. When you were given more than MAC back. What player was taken off your roster? The vikings. Okay. That's picked you picked up who the Redskins the Estee. So the transaction was not reversed. Well, no, I meant to drop the Vikings for the Redskins. A complete violation. But he weighed anything that could have been ruled upon Jamie waited until Saturday night at near bid night to make this transaction. So what what what would you have done? What should the I would have if I was going to give you Moreland back-back, the Washington Redskins would have no longer but on your lie? What's the big deal? Who cares because you picked them up when you drop more Lemek if you want more Lemek Beck. You cannot have the player you picked up it's bringing up with Jamie didn't make it did. I beat you in that league or something like that. I did not play you. You're still you're matches ongoing. But that was a complete and utter failure Jamie's part of the Commissioner. Probably gonna lose this week. Okay. And Martha back going to kick him out of the league big reason for it. I kick out the commission. All right, Dave. How you doing man? I'm doing. All right. I'm I've nothing that needs regulating had an amazing time in New York City at the CBS tailgate. He, and I would tell you all about it. But we've got a lot to recap if you asked me to give week ten a number on a scale of one to ten it's a Q. This was a ridiculous week. It was wacky. It was different. But it was very fun. Despite the fact that there were only two legitimately close games. But a lot of a lot of interesting fantasy storylines talk about. Yeah. And I think one thing that jumped out to me really is that doesn't mean that it'll be the case every week. It doesn't mean this'll be the case next year whatnot. But if you or someone who drafted a lot of young running backs that had to sort of emerge from their backfield. And yet, you're waited and you were patient. This was a great week for you. Nick Chubb is the number one. Running back and non PR this week. I think he's number two three and PR Aaron Jones had an amazing game as the start of the week Twenty-eight fantasy points nine PR thirty one in PR carry on Johnson. He was started. In 'bout half our leagues these obviously owned everywhere. But I did not think kerryon Johnson was going to be a good start this week. He had a great game against the bears. And then the real surprising one was Reshad penny who had one more carry than Mike Davis. Mike davis. Also had a good game. But Rashad penny was outstanding. What do you have tweeted? Twelve carries for a hundred yards in a touchdown. He had a big long run that setup a fairly long touchdown run. But still very good game. And he's gonna put himself in position to work alongside Chris Carson. Whenever Chris Carson comes back. We got we really got bailed out on Mike Davis with. Little bit. We really did. Because once penny had those back toback long runs. He totaled fifty six yards and the touchdown back. Toback carries? You knew that he was going to be the hot hand. And that the Seahawks coaches would lean on him a little more than normal. So yeah, that was just kind of something that occurred to me. It was a good day for those rookie second year running backs and he. Anything ad and it's out to you. Big fem-. Thank you Corey Davis. Vindication. Yeah. All right winter, let's do winners. He will start with your winters. Corey Davis is one of them Corey Davis against the patriots at over one hundred yards and a touchdown. Seven catches one hundred twenty five yards and a touchdown on ten targets and he will face Indianapolis on the road next week. I love it. The great matchup against the colts schedules coming together. This was actually a tough match-up for number one wide receiver so far this year. But he fought through it made a phenomenal touchdown catch the talent shone through the targets mattered. I'm going to count on him. I had him ranked this week is a high end number three wide receiver. I don't maybe a low in number two. I don't know that I'm going to move him much higher than that. But I will feel more comfortable next week with that ranking. And with starting him as a number two. You're absolutely going to move them up there. Six teams on buying. He's playing the colts and Marcus mariota is playing considerably better than you did before. Because his hand fingers that helps that that is a big deal. It turns out for quarterback. And this was the game. We talked about it all week long. This was Josh Gordon going up against Malcolm Butler, and he's going to whore ch-, Malcolm Butler, and it was Corey Davis. Torching, Stefan, Gilmore and Gilmore been playing great this year. This was kind of a coming out party for Corey Davis. I I I'm a little hesitant to totally by in. But next week. He's going to be a top twenty four receiver and your other winner. Heath is Mark Ingram. Mark Ingram had thirteen carries one hundred four yards plus three catches fifty eight yards and a touchdown. Yes. And we will take that type of workload. You give. Mark ingram. Fifteen touches on a regular basis. You're going to be very happy with him as a low in number two running back. There was some concern last week with him not getting the goal line work with the fumble that he had Ono Mark Ingram. Basically just a backup running back for the saints. And this was an excellent performance. He actually had more carries Alvin Kamara wants to get once again more receiving yards. Feel very good about starting both these running backs. Well, if you look at them, right because one thing I do every week is I sort of chart the reds the the red zone, but the gold ago carries who's in win. And I'll try to look through my notes. But I think Kamara probably got more. They both. Yeah. Yeah. They both got you know, this was a great game for they scored fifty one points, and he played great against Cincinnati, which has proven to be one of the worst defenses. The great thing is they scored fifty one points. And that's part of the reason they were both so good. I don't know if either one of them were on the field for a fourth quarter snap. Sure, I'm just wondering. No, I disagree with what you said about him being low end number two. I do wonder though, if people who waited for weeks start to have Mark Ingram were expecting more like a low at number one. And if you I was hoping for yes. And it's. Listen, I think moving forward the game next week against the eagles isn't great. But then the schedule's not too bad after that. Yeah. There's atlanta. There's Tampa Bay or some good matchups in there. All right. David go to your winters. We like workload. We didn't know what to expect from Leonard fournette, but he's the guy he ran a ram wanted. He had three consecutive runs and gold goal situation. See tried to leap in from like the seven yard line that didn't quite whereas the two, but it didn't work then he got in the next and he caught a touchdown. Leonard is a big winner so much for workload concerns are easing him back in leaning on Carlos Hyde. What why did they trade for Carlos Ida? That's dumped so stupa. What's smart is that they waited and waited and waited to bring Leonard fournette back and even though he didn't average four yards of carry. He didn't even never just three yards per carry. He made it every didn't he didn't even barely ever to. He was little more than two yards for Kerry against Neville. But he still scored the touchdown. Like, Adam say. Holy cow. Yeah. They they are making up for lost time. And I think anybody who waited for Leonard fournette to comeback. Hopefully, they were warded if they started him if they didn't. Then at the very least, you know, that the Jaguars won't have a problem leaning on him. They play Pittsburgh next week. It's not the easiest match up in the world. But at least they're at home and it's on Sunday night. I think they've got a good chance to give for net. A lot of carries there as they try and control the game. And and the fact that he was catching passes five targets five grabs. Bortles was checking it down like a madman today. Like Patrick Mahomes throws deep. Blake Bortles go. Yeah. But watch this and he thinks it three yards every time and that helped TJ Yeldham, but it really helped lender for that. This adds another dimension to his game. If this continues to happen and linen for that's gonna be right back to where we would have started him week one week two early season. All right. Pretty much must start fantasy running back. Who would you rather have recipes in for net or Nick Chubb job? Yeah. Really after all the poetic, I just whack. I'll tell you got five catches from lender for net. You're not allowed catch from Nick Saban. I know we're not gonna get ninety yard runs from Nick Chubb every single week. But although good fifty yard carries than litter for net dozen his career he might and that Brown's offense has changed as we'll talk about later on more than what? I can Chubb Fornet definitely had one. I want to say in his first game. I said fifty yard carries. He had to win. Carlos Hyde was still starting running. That's true. That's true. Jumps up through. He had hit. Another twenty carries a hundred seventy ninety two yard touchdown run. Any caught three balls for thirty three yards and a touchdown. Would you rather have Aaron Jones or Leonard for that? I'll take four not all the Jones. So you're not buying in to mean. He wasn't good at all in this game. You're not you're not workload. Yeah. Like, I think that that's the name of the game doesn't matter if he's good. I mean, he's going to get so many carries. It's gonna get all their touchdown. He had not saying you don't start him. But what are you doing superstar today? Nick was a superstar today. And it's true. And the thing is I think Aaron Jones might win people their fantasy leaks. I sure he, but I let her for naked do the exact same thing, especially people buying low is a real thing and fantasy and people who did that with four net should be rewarded. He had two carries as in in his rookie year for seventy five or more yards. Those is only two carries a fifty or more yards. And he he had I don't know if it was this year last year, but he had one of the like miles per hour wise one of the fastest he did. So he's not just a plotter. I think he's a little big little smaller. This year. So, you know, whatever for net, very very exciting. If you started him, and he was actually started in seventy five percent of leaks. Carry on Johnson's Dame's other winner. He was started in forty four percent of leagues. Fourteen carries fifty one yards and a touchdown. Six catches thirty eight yards and a touchdown and fumbles. Well, but there was a sequence Dave in this game. I think you know, what I'm talking about. I do was beautiful and hopefully a sign of things to come. Why don't you run through it? Because I think you'll you'll say better than I than goal from. I think the two yard being all the Gary blunt comes in. Let's let's give our play away. Let's do what everybody map atrocities such a genius. Even if it wasn't. Let's get the ball to the big plotter who can't move runs into line of scrimmage gets nothing. Hold on a second. It looked like he was actually in it. I. Okay. I attest second on that. I I went back on Twitter to try to find my old tweet about how an angel dies. Everytime. Look blunt scores. And I was getting ready to re tweet it with angel RIP angel. But but the sword in counts now it's second down from like the one. Yeah. So then he goes backwards. Right. Yeah. That's never good. Yeah. And then third down they bring kerryon Johnson. He gets the job done. Right. Just stop with the Garrett blunt. Just stop with the goal line. Kerryon Johnson is the man he would catch a touchdown later in the game. Yeah. He's a winner few days. He's got Carolina next week. I would say that that's a pretty good matchup. And even if it's not the fact that he was involved in the passing game as much as he was he had as many catches as the ridiculed as many catches as Kenny golladay. I think that that's a sign of things to come. I think kerryon Johnson is going to earn that role as being the primary guy, and there will be less involvement from blunt to blunt make it out of the game. Okay. I know Marvin Jones got hurt Marvin. Kerryon Johnson got her. He came back here. His ankle. He came back in. I'm not sure about the blunt, so. Yeah. Benefit and Carrie Johnson. Dave's winners Corey Davis and Mark Ingram or heats winners. And let's go to the losers heath. I'll start with you. What is that? What Jarvis Landry? What is a he's not good is really bad. He's awful six weeks. Now, he's at one good game. I know the worst part was he lost the targets. Yeah. So five targets in this game two of them, which isn't that far from his average this year. This is a bad situation. Especially the problem is they were running the ball with Nick Chubb eighteen times game when they were losing by two scores if they are competitive or they are winning games. They're going to run into even more. That's bad news for Jarvis Landry. And he's got a by next week. So he'll probably stay needed this. You can't drop Jarvis Landry. Right. You can't drop him. But I don't. If you're not gonna get this matchup. When are you gonna feel good story? What about ten? You can't start them in on. What about ten team? Non PP are leagues. The most basic and simple fantasy leagues. If you need the spot, I think Jarvis someone you can cut, and I think someone might I don't know how much Russia there would be to pick them up. Especially in his by week. Now PR it's it's a no go because even though he only had two catches today. Landry was on a great catch pac- has. Let's see his first nine games. Oh, we've got an updated in ten games us fifty seven catches. So that's pretty good. It's a it's a it's a good average. But it's not what he was in Miami. I agree with this is what's I'll foreshadow one of my losers as David joke who this offense has changed ever since Nick Chubb ever since Carlos. I got traded and Nick job came in this coaching staff is believing in their ground game. They have every reason to after what we've seen and we're not seeing Baker Mayfield lean on joke who in lean on Landry quite frequently and certainly nowhere near as consistently as he used to nobody's playing. Well, that's the thing. That's the other side of it is that Grady Mayfield is putting up. Good numbers. The Browns are putting up points and they're doing it without having to lean on. Jarvis Orna Joko. And I think Duke Johnson has emerged over the last two weeks. That's that's also both of these guys. This discouraging game for Duke. Yeah. You know what I mean because he only seven touches when when a running back catches touchdown passes that to me is like the the sell high alert. It's like that's just something you cannot Bank on and if he needs touchdown passes. Touchdown catches to be good. He had four catches for thirty one yards and a touchdown three carries. It's kind of like to recall now Cohen did have a good game today that rushing touchdown. But if that goes away, and it's not something you really Bank on this James white necessarily. That's that is scarce you were discouraged by this game. But do Johnson. I was because we talked about it last week after the game where he had nine targets. And we said well, they got the new offense coordinator do Johnson's gonna get all the targets now. And granted they only through it twenty times in this game. I think twenty one if you if you include the Hilliard interception. Gadget play. I thought that was the Chubb at first that would have been bad. Now. Keep in mind. I mean, yeah. So four three catches rose. Four catches for Duke on twenty passes actually, not so bad if but if he if he catches four passes per game from here on out. He is going to be absolutely useless almost every. Yeah, I'm more losers. Heath your other loser is Jimmy grandma at one catch today. I have petitioned last week. We changed zero Patterson from wide receiver to wide receiver slash running back. I'm trying to get Jimmy Graham left tackle eligibility because he spent far more time in this game blocking than he did running pass routes. I can't wait to see the actual numbers on Tuesday to see how many routes he ran. But it was a very very the Buffalo Bills left tackle may have run just as many routes. Jimmy, granted what if I should that number before Tuesday, and it was. Listen, I really thought with Randall Cobb not there. I mean, you look the last two games that caused it and play Graham had twenty targets. And there's two games. I think he had to orbits in this game. I don't know there's anything you can do as Jimmy Graham owner though, he kinda stuck with them. Because tight end is awful. It's an abomination. Yes, it's dreadful. And then when you think Eric Brown's gonna have a bad game scores three touchdowns, but Ron Davis. Losers titans. Who's the joke joke who is a loser for me? And so as Jordan Reed, Jordan, it's time to say goodbye, although he's gonna be at tops. We'll tight end this week because he had five fancy points. No way. Is he as before the game started? He was either twelve or just behind twelve he's eleventh in non NPR even higher in. Wow. Four still it's not gonna make you feel any better about him. Just Washington's offense was really uninspiring. They've got Houston nex. Week Dallas after look they just had it in Tampa Bay. If he couldn't get it done. Exactly, exactly. The problem is the I'll channel my inner Amy Trask and say, okay, you're going to cut this guy. And then what you don't you? You've got to follow through with the plan. You can't just pick up. More cox. No, we're not just say this. I have Jordan reading a couple of leagues. And I j Howard in in one of the Jordan Reed leagues. And I have I think Jared cook and one of the Jordan readings and not that I like Jared cook so much, but you're reads like the first guy dropping Jordan readout score. Joe J Howard eter. Yes, he did. But obviously Howard had a terrible game. One catcher fifteen yards and they had five hundred yards of offense. They are the first team in NFL history to have over four hundred fifty offense and score three points. That's right. Which brings us to our news and notes, I was gonna see Dave. Dave news notes around the NFL. Where'd you get that note from? ESPN dot com via lie sports bureau. Oh, I thought you got it for me. 'cause I send it to you did thought it. I don't know. I don't think he did your li-. Levy on bell is unlikely to report or play this season. How about that biggest bus in the history of fantasy football that's heath? And I basically decided that for everybody on on fantasy football Saturday night that makes you getting him this year. It's it's an interesting question because you did have to keep him on your roster all year that part was bad. But you never started him. So as he bigger bust than someone you started for three or four weeks and actively hurt you in your lineup, and then you dropped, but at least you dropped them after X amount of weeks unless that act. This guy's been clogging up my bench for eleven weeks already, I suppose despite drop Levy bell. Keep them all year teams just to prove that I can win with him on my bench. So we have the wait until Tuesday. Obviously more news items go through this quickly Asia green likely to miss next week's game Dez Bryant tore his achilles. The saints could signed Brandon Marshall Joe flacco as a hip injury and Lamar Jackson. Yeah. There's already talk that. Lamar Jackson could become an Jason lockenfora talked about that. He's written about it. Tailgate so good. Oh, it's so good. I'm really interested. Because he's if you haven't seen the mar- Jackson like in college, we barely get to see him in the NFL. I think he's I think he's more. He's more town to the Michael Vick was I think he's the I don't know about as a passer. Well as part of the problem. Runner, but he's he could run for sixty seventy yards most we he might Tibo it. I don't know that he's a worst past. Joe flacco Joe flacco is off. He's a worse bass Joe flacco at this stage. I have Joe flankers arguably been the worst pather in the NFL for three years unless you count manning. Cooper Cup hurt his knee. We know about the extent of this. It looks like it is obviously you're not going to know for sure Julian Adam and left with an ankle injury. And Marvin Jones a knee injury. And do we know anything about that? Or Kenyan Drake shoulder Ataman, drink came straight. Okay. Eshelman did not hit a pretty good game actually nine for one four. Yeah. Better than I thought he'd have they have a bye next week. So that should be beneficial. James Winston could start next week. Glad I didn't drop them for judge account. Buffalo did not commit to a quarterback for their next game. Which we after by some offense of line news DJ fluker didn't play for Seattle. Brandon Linder was carted off the Jacksonville Jaguars. They're very good center. And the trait guard TJ Lang sat chargers linebacker Denzel Perryman left with injury on the second play of the game. 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Please start using it and use the code F F T on seek to get twenty bucks off your first purchase coats, F F T seek life's and event, and we have the tickets worry or he zero to ten how worried are you about the following players did not perform well today Marlin MAC twelve carries twenty nine yards. Two catches nine yards against the Jaguars worry, I'm Marla MAC is this MA or L O N or L. I N. Yes. I spelled Marvan backstay I guess that was autocorrect texts that I said to JV. Yeah. I mean, it was probably the same autocorrect that caused you to drop in the first place. None of it was your fault. I will put it at a three gosh. Three. I'm you know, I put it as a three long-term because he's still dominated carries. He still was working near the goal line. He was at a like the two yard line on a catch. So you know, maybe on a lucky day. That's touchdown. But his next three games are against Tennessee. Miami Jacksonville, Miami looks like Marlin that could be the start of the week. But Tennessee just did a great job against any Michelle. They had a good run defense this year and Jacksonville just shut Marlin back down. So we talked about it. It's just a schedule thing. But he's still the guy Tom Brady zero to ten on Brady. He has scored twelve seventeen and ten fantasy points in six point per passing touchdown leagues and his last three games. Heath worry, ometer seven seems really high wanted to come back. Yeah. I'm gonna jump on and off as I write the rap for the Sunday night on. It's it's going to be like a five for me. It's been bad, but he's on by this week. Anyway, now's the time where you've got to find a second quarterback. Anyway, I'm going to recommend Mario or Matthew Stafford as quarterbacks to pair with Brady like you have a wine pairing with the quarterbacks that you're going to want to pair with Tom Brady because in week eleven they've got great matchups. Matthew, Stafford of the lions is going to take on Carolina. And then Marcus Mario is gonna take on Indianapolis, Indianapolis, both of those games should be high scoring. It's gonna force those quarterbacks to throw the football. And like I said earlier Mario's looking great when Brady comes back from the by twelve he takes on the jets you're going to feel good about starting him. Then by then. Right. And if he if he stinks in that game, at least you've got a quarterback in Mario or staffer that you can go within week thirteen. They both have good matchups again. Then don't have to get into those match charges. Take my word for it. They're pretty good and you can. Bottom line is that those are two good quarterbacks that you can have as as Smits for Brady this week and potentially the play. Okay. But what are we seeing right now from Tom Brady if anything that concerns you because you gave us quack really he he made several throws in this game. That legitimately had me worried. Like, I'm wondering if you can go over to Europe on his by week and get one of those PRP injections, the pitchers get when they don't want to have Tommy John surgery. Yeah. Hissing throws to the sideline low and well left. He tried to throw deep a couple times. Look like Ryan Fitzpatrick throwing a twelve football. Didn't look like Tom Brady. I didn't quite look like Tom Brady. And I don't know if I'm ready to say, it's Fitspatrick throwing helium balloons all over the field. I think defense is played the patriots differently without rob gronkowski on the field. And you can also look at his completion percentage in his last three games. And it's going down his yards per temp. He has one game with I think over eight yards per attempt which for him is pretty bad and his one touchdowns lesser game. So does Nathan Peterman this is ugly. So the timing is perfect for him to get a week of rest when he comes back against jet. You're gonna start them. Then find another quarterback just in case. I think patriots Maeve lost a Super Bowl. They've seriously increase the likelihood that they're either going to Pittsburg Kansas City in the playoffs. And they could they could potentially win both of those. Pittsburgh and Kansas. Right. Yes. But if they're hosting if they get the one seat they're going to the Super Bowl, you don't win in Foxborough. This is a pretty significant loss for them in a big win for the titans on Adrian Peterson. So going into this game. He had five games with seventeen or more carries all five of those games. He had ninety seven rushing yards. He got the work. He got nineteen carries. Two catches. He ended up with sixty nine total yards sixty eight of them on the ground where we on Peterson. Heath six I did think the offensive line. They didn't look good. But they looked better than I expected. And so there may be a cause where you don't have much choice next week because six teams a by. But I'm I'm very worried that he's gonna be a top twenty running back, and I want you to read what what happened by phone. Just now. Yeah. For some reason. Seri- recorded what you said. And here's what Siri wrote on your phone. Hey, Siri is the increase the likelihood of the razor going to Pittsburgh or Kansas City in the playoffs. And they take them. They could potentially double zero hundred percent. But right. Yes. But if they are hosting and it just went away now. What I'm saying? I said off Siri at somewhat I didn't hear what he said about Adrian Peterson. But all the listeners did Tyler Boyd three catches for sixty five yards on four targets. He did actually lead the team in receiving? So that was good. But three catches for sixty five yards on four targets bad game. For boyd. We're ometer on Tyler Boyd heath too. My only angle here was like well, did we just see that without AJ green boards going to struggle? Now. No, I think that's possible. I think that's possible. I don't I I didn't see all of this game. I saw some of it. I think it was really just bad. Andy not throwing the ball. Tyler Boyd more when he should have to throw it into coverage a little bit. But it's not a great match up next week against Baltimore. I still think you're probably gonna start was a number two receiver. All right there. It would rather Boorda Corey Davis recipes in. Was corey. Davis. Okay. Tyler Boyd or Jarvis Landry recipes board. Title board worry on Larry FitzGerald. Six catches for fifty yards on ten targets. I'm very happy to Larry FitzGerald got tin targets in this game that she Stephens has been better against wide receivers. They've been pretty decent against slot wide receivers. He gets the raiders next week. I will give him a big fat zero for that one that the defense has been so much better against wide receivers that you have to really question starting any non obvious start guy against it is amazing. Do they have next week that sheafs? The ram. So I think you're the ramp star Cooper Cup. Okay. So the Rams I'm going to say that on the ram schedule on the chiefs schedule. They're only three wide receivers who are must starts recipes in two Rams guys and Keenan Allen and annual Sanders against them. They don't play them. Do they they don't with the Broncos. I don't have them on the schedule anymore. Okay. They may have already played them. They already planned twice. All right. That is it for the worry ometer. We'll do some buyer sell. We have a new segment we've been new segment it's called Adam brags about his team. Everybody sit around the campfire uncle Adam is going to brag about his team. I'm currently beating Jamie Jamie is having a monster week right now Jamie is the second highest score in our ADP. It is PR. We start a lot of players, but I already have the most points that any team has scored this week just want everybody to know who I have first of all Eric run on my bench. My bad. Ben Rothlisberger Christian McCaffrey appr, by the way, Nick. Chubb, Julian Edelman Antonio Brown golden Tate, playing right now, Jack Doyle, Aaron Jones, Greg's arline Aaron Donald and a whole bunch of other IT peace. Can I just do the he thing that I often do when you start to feel good about yourself? Sure. The Buffalo Wild Wings draft that we did as part of our fundraiser what a bad Tiv my son's team. My teams bad. Your son seems great. It is the most ridiculous team. I've ever seen in my life. He has one hundred is not an IEP league. He has one hundred sixty nine points right now for this week that is his fourth highest score of the year. He's already topped two hundred once we only have one flex in that league. What's who's yet? Patrick Mahomes Kareem hunt tyreek hill Julio Jones. He went Homer out drafted on the pairing pairing the chiefs with Julio Jones turned out to be a good strategy there. We all made fun of him for drafting four tightens. One of them was Eric run. Nice. Is he still has rostering three tight ends good for him that he's wrestling. Kelvin Benjamin his team could even even better. He's participated in waivers twice this year. Gotta love that. Killingly? Okay. So Adam brags about his team turn into heath brags about his son buyer sell. He's only two buyer sells the Tennessee offense is in for a big second half by herself. By it. They are using their best running back Marcus mariota can feel his fingers Corey davises turning into the number one wide receiver. We all knew that he could be by the titans offense. The bears offense is in for a big second half, buy or sell. I mean, could it be much or the second highest scoring team in the league? Yeah. Yeah. But but they're passing game has not been that good for fantasy through at all. Like they have not had one reliable must start guy in the passing game. Okay. Jason. That's really the question. Like Alan Robinson had a big game. Anthony Miller had a big game. They were outstanding store. The the lions Taylor Gabriel disappeared. He may be and that will be key. If Taylor Gabriel gets three targets game from here on out. Then I think that Miller and Robinson can be very good. I was so out the mystic about Alan Robinson. But he just like he got he got worked today. But. And look good. Like, it wasn't just thing where they left him wide open. He made some plays. He opened field to his previous four games. He had four to seven targets gamy at eight. He's not going to get like the ten targets that you want from a number one. But as it was a really a button open you'd actually shocking in this game was Jordan Howard against the lions eleven carries for twenty one yards three fantasy points. Are you kidding tear? He he's one of the mega duds today. Jordan howard. But this was another game. And they had one of these about a month ago. I don't remember was were they just decided, you know, this is not a game where we're gonna worry about that. And they just like even when they were up to scores late in that game. They were still just winging it around. Yeah. Just so contrary to what I expected that was a game that I previewed without you guys that was a Friday game. I did that with Brandon Marian Lee. And I thought I was a little surprised at how low you had Jordan Howard ranked? I don't know if you have have in front of you. But I feel like he was like fifteenth or something like that Jordan Howard. I had him twenty seconds twenty. Second. Okay. So. Yeah. Pretty low against in my opinion, the best match up, you know, maybe they don't give they gave up the fifth most fantasy points. But the lions have the bourse run defensive football. I think maybe today was assigned abor great that Damon Harrison is really paying off. But I yeah, I give you credit because I thought he was a must start guy, and he was a total Doug Jordan Howard and to Rico and got the short yardage touchdown, which was very disappointing for our owners and not that very disappointing. The lions have a bad pass defense to but nobody ever passes on them. Everybody just runs and runs and runs. But today the bears were like, hey, we're going to be we're going to be ourselves through forty times today in thirty four twenty two win. Okay. Adam riffing there. That's it. For prior sell. I've got another buy or sell related to the same team. The titans. Go. I think we talked about this a lot in New York, and we talked about it a lot last night on the radio show. And we talked about it a little bit last week with the titans having the number one scoring defense in the league. And it's just because they've played a bunch of bad offenses. We may have to reevaluate. The titans might just be a good defense. Yeah. Yeah. 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I think there's a clear storyline in the top five quarterbacks. Russell Wilson gamble. Roethlisberger trubisky. Breeze. Wilson Nathan would you say about oh ninety two rushing yards? That's nice ninety two rushing yards nine times. He ran the ball. He had I believe. Now forty percent of his rushing yards for the season came this week. And he had forty last week. Didn't he? That sounds right. Hi last week. So this week as well two in a row. That's a great sign. Yeah. Wilson's great the storyline. I was going for was breeze through twenty five passes. You know? And he was awesome. He was a may twenty to twenty five hundred sixty five yards and three touchdowns. And I can't sit here and say sell ju- breeze. He's got road games doesn't throw that much anymore with Mark Ingram because he's just incredible. I would say you got a little bit lucky. If you started Brees this week. I mean a little Thurs score thirty four points. You know? So well the first Michael Thomas touchdown was not a touchdown. And would not have been ruled a touchdown by majority of -ficiating. Yeah. I thought that was pretty weak. All these these second touchdown Mark Ingram. Caught a swing past thirty yard line. Made a phenomenal spin move to three to get into the end zone. But isn't that bad luck? Or is that just having great players around him. I mean, that's part of it. It's part of it. But if he throws twenty-five passes, and as this type of day on a normal basis, you're not expect anywhere close to the type of finish points that it got you through for two hundred sixty five yards on twenty five peasants. That's great. Very good. He ran went into the sneak. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Dave breaking news. Sources toll NFL network's Ian Rapoport that Rams receiver Cooper cough has a torn ACL eleven MRI tomorrow, but Sharma face it. It was not good. This is a. This is bad news for fantasy owners. Adam Cooper Cup looks like he will be done for the year. Yeah. The thing is I feel like it's bad news for only Cooper Cup owners. I always hate reacting to these injuries. Because it's like so emotionless like, it sucks. That Cooper Cup is out. He's a really exciting player. But from a fantasy standpoint. It's it's. I think offs fine. Right. I mean, gulfs fine. The interesting thing is the last last week against the saints. And we talked about them versus tight ends last week against the saints. Their tight ends had ninety yards combined this week. The Rams tight ends. Both scored a touchdown. They're tied ins may be a little bit relevant moving forward, especially this week against the chiefs. We could use them the way the tight end position is right now, they're not going to be relevant. The second. You think they're going to be relevant. They're going to solve the bigger problem is that Tyler plays a lot, but barely gets targets and Jearl Everett doesn't play a lot gets more targets in Tyler higby. They're going to be a mess, but by weeks ago, they will be interesting options, especially since they're headed toward a game against Kansas City. That's probably going to total hundred points. And you're adding Josh Renton, deeply, let's take a look at quarter at running back leaderboard running back Nick Chubb is number one is non Christian McCaffrey number two. Although finish number one in PR. David Johnson three Aaron Jones and the Shawn McCoy. Hey, did it. I predicted his first rushing to the jets are at topos fire tomorrow. Both prediction. I think people are crossing their fingers on that any who shove McCaffrey David Johnson Aaron Jones Shawn McCoy heath. Yeah. I don't know what the story. I mean, dick job was awesome. But we've talked a lot about David David Johnson. Twenty-one carries ninety eight yards and a touchdown. Seven catches eighty five yards and a touchdown. Big game. His usage was better. They got him outside just a little bit more. I hesitate to get to excited because it was the chiefs. This is the best matchup for running backs. It's the juice and if not them then it's the raiders who he plays next week. Yeah. So that's that's awesome. Yeah. Schedule we'll get a little tougher after that actually not really we talked about this on Wednesday. David Johnson is set up a great finish. He has some bad defenses on the schedule. His playoffs is postseason is Detroit at Atlanta. And the Rams. I don't understand how Aaron Donald is. Clearly, the best offensive tackle in football. Not best defensive player and the Rams of Eddie dreadful run defense two years in a row, but it's. I guess but still it's weird top-five wide receivers tyreek hill without Sammy Watkins seven catches one hundred seventeen yards in two touchdowns and twenty yard rush. He was tied with Alan Robinson, and non PR and tyreek hill was one point ahead and PR then little bit lower. Michael Thomas, Corey Davis and Anthony Miller. So let's talk about Anthony Miller I five catches one hundred and twenty two yards and a touchdown Miller. Pretty available. Twenty three percent owned his best game by far. But it's good to see heath. Anthony miller. Yeah. And I I was a little worried about him at the start of this game because early on it was all at one Robinson. And he's still only had six tour. I don't think six targets going to turn into type of Brooklyn, very often. But again, I'll go back to what I said earlier the most encouraging part of this game for both Robinson. And for Miller. The fact that Taylor Gabriel only had three targets if that's the case moving forward. They can support to good wide receivers. He should be the number one priority of wide receiver this week. Yeah. Maybe the wildcard is going to be trae Burton. Maybe they'll be burden weeks and Miller weeks Robinson struggles between those three guys to them or good on a given week and to Rico and at the how many catches it's Rico NF today six, but he average less than five yards per catch. Six catches for twenty nine. We'll give them five yards. Six catches for twenty nine yards giving five round up heath come on. Now. It's kind of like just giving somebody back somebody. They dropped excellently. And then the other stories for me is that. Tyreek hill had seven catches. He's on pace for like some around ninety five. Oh, no about eighty five. He was on pace for eighty five catches entering week ten. That's that's a guy who's not a liability. It by any means and PR, okay? Liabilities stupidest seasons. He's like the number one receiver, basically. But but it's his catches are going way up. You could have ninety catch season. That's really good for tyreek hill. I did. Not anticipate that yeah, he's been phenomenal. And there will be a week. I mean, the nice thing was scored two touchdowns at home. So maybe we can get rid of the silly. He doesn't like there's no rhyme or reason to that total right. I think that she's defense wallets improved will still be bad enough to keep them throwing. And you look distraught right now like something just happened in the football game. Well, I upset you got someone a friend of mine who's who's getting close to a huge pay day in a survivor pool. A huge payday, you know, how these things where you get a lot like hundreds of people in and the payday ends of being a lot of money, and there's less than one hundred people left in the pool, and I told to take the eagles this week, and they're lose a three nothing, but they got stuffed on fourth down. Whatever you want to talk about the game. But that's why the straw because. I feel I feel guilt right now. They're going to I was distracted by your face. Who are we talking about tyreek hill? He's great tight ends. Eric Hebron number one with two receiving and one rushing touchdown. Three catches sixty nine yards and two touchdowns in the end he stole Chris Hogan's nickname, which is us. Well, it used to be seven eleven because always open. He they asked Hebron after the game. It was Jacksonville does not covering you. You were wide open. He said, I'm always open. That's why they call me seven eleven about that. Austin hookah eleven fantasy points twenty one in our he is your number two. And he had ten catches how about this. He is the only tight and with more than six catches today. But. Most of them had like most of the top tight ends this week had like two or three catches Jonah. Smith has scored escorted two straight games. Vance McDonald's and Tyler higby and mo- alley. Cox hig and moa Kassir tied for fifth, Gerald Everett. It was it was a touchdown or bus kind of weak for tight ends not a lot of yards. Nobody had more than the sixty nine yards that Eric Hebron had very nice game for run. What do you what do you? What do they Hooper? I I think he's a pretty close to a mess started. He's the most like seventy five percent owned or something like that. Yeah. He should be started started with the expectation that he's going to disappoint you. But that all titans will this. So let's get to the games buffalo forty one jets ten. You don't have any yards. The jets had in the first quarter. Negative three. I let me rephrase it. So you don't have any yard the jets had in the first quarter one. According to my brother, the jets fan who is pretty pissed off all day. Matt Barkley head twenty one points and the Shawn McCoy had a great game. And it was nice to see. Fortunately, it's the Jaguars after the bye. So I don't know how confident you're going to be in in him over the next two weeks. We definitely sitting in the by week. But he does have a good schedule. After that a very good schedule Zeh Jones heath eight catches ninety two yards and a touchdown. Do you care? I like the way you went from tight ends to the bills and the jets like so people could just hit that forward thirty second button like six times, and we'll be through these two sections, and they can listen to the part that really matters. I think they Jones is the best receiver on the bills. He's had a remarkable turnaround from a disastrous rookie season. And if he ever gets a quarterback he could be fantasy viable wide receiver. What do you think about the jets running backs? Got the touchdown seven carries one thousand nine yards and a touchdown Elisha. Mcguire had six six carries for thirty yards and three catches trends. And candidate for carries. The jets next week have a bye. I think and I'm trying to verify this right now, I believe that Trenton cannons work in the running game came after this game was long decided I'd been deserted. The game was pretty much decided in the second quarter. But Crowell also scored late for what he scored with ten minutes left in the third quarter that really. It was a frigging at that point. It was it was the pill out. Appel out late in the game, relatively speaking. Yeah. I'm glad crew L scored. This offense is a disaster. I believe Chris Herndon led the team in receiving for the second straight week. He led the team in receiving this week and last week at Miami. He led the team in receiving with sixty two yards this week. Let's not act like he accomplished something thirty four yards. Kansas City twenty six Zona fourteen. You know, it's kind of kind of interesting here. Patrick Mahomes is terrific. He scored twenty three fantasy points. He had four straight games with three or four passing touchdowns and touring week ten, but you know, when he's had bad matchups. He hasn't been incredible. And he's had he has some bad ones. Coming up. In the playoffs. Remember, he's Baltimore the chargers and the Seahawks. So does that mean anything? The Baltimore one worries me because I think that the chiefs defense that's a gain. That's at aero head. And I think they could play that kind of. I mean, he only through twenty eight passes in this game. Yeah. And so that's the problem for him. If you look at on a per pass basis through twenty eight times and everage nine yards per attempt and threw two touchdown passes. Yeah. He was great. And he only completed seventy five percent of his passes. Right. He just didn't have to throw that both more. When does scare me a little bit. But again the floor that we're so worried about is twenty three points. Yeah. Pretty good Kareem hunts was just fine. But he didn't score we'll scored but lost touch on where this stupid. This is one of his worst games Kelsey same thing. But you know, what the cardinals I said all they have to do is have a respectable game and buy into their defense. I'm buying into their defense. Fair. Yeah. I guess the chiefs could have scored forty in this game. If they wanted to. Okay. Well cardinals next week have Oakland. So they're good enough to start. Then I didn't mean their defense from a standpoint him at their defense from a matchup standpoint, you know, for posing avoid raiders next week because of the cardinal Indianapolis Twenty-nine Jacksonville twenty six Jags had the ball for more than ten more minutes than the colts. And look Blake Bortles actually streaming quarterbacks are pretty damn good this week Bortles. Mario Baker Mayfield. I'm trying to think who else, but those three jump out well tomorrow, you I N Nick Molins play tomorrow. But. Who else there was someone else? I don't know. Does it doesn't matter. Those three guys though Mayfield. Mario and Bortles who do you like going forward? It's going to be like, I don't think any of those guys are guys I'm going to start on a weekly basis. So I don't have to make the rest of season decision. It's going to be on a week to week basis with all of them. The interesting thing with Bortles and with his Jacksonville defense. The great thing for him was that Jacksonville's defense played awful. But they only awful for one half. I don't think the colts word in the second half. I don't know. Do they not score the second? I believe they had twenty nine points at halftime this. I couldn't believe I thought the Jaguars. We're gonna steal that game. And then what do you we think about? He anything about Dante Moncrieff. That was a huge play. He made a nice job. Breaking the tackle. I don't think that any Jacksonville receiver. You can really count on me for targets in the game. Yeah. Here are his yards in his last six games. One. Oh, nine seventy six zero seventy six fifty four ninety eight. So that's fifty four more yards and five of his last six seventy eight or more yards in four of his last six that sounds like a guy who should be owned in more than twenty one percent of leagues. I don't know that it needs to be higher than fifty. But it's not bad. Really isn't. I agree with that who they play next week Jacksonville plays Pittsburgh next week. Then at buffalo, then the colts again. All right. So it's not a great schedule can deal with that on Tuesday. That's all good. See why Hilton did lead his in receiving three catches seventy seven yards on three targets. He was only started in seventy percent of lease. And I think that makes sense. I mean, matchup Tennessee, thirty four and New England ten Tennessee the ball for about thirty three minutes. England about twenty seven minutes. Brady, we talked about any concerns it all with Sony. Michelle eleven carries thirty one yards. I think this was really more of a product of a good run defense. But I will say if Brady performs as poorly as he did in this game. It's a bad thing for the running game. It's a bad week for the for the patriots. They get a by hopefully, get gronkowski back. Get rolling on again. Watching for reports on Josh Gordon's finger, okay? Four yards on twelve targets. He had three catches for fifty eight yards. Like the first ten minutes of this game. And he had a Bogo off of his hand. And they showed a close replay of it. And it sure looks like he broke a finger. And he only I think one more pass the rest of the game. And they got throwing it to him. And he didn't catch anything. All right. New orleans. Fifty one Cincinnati fourteen is this what life without AJ green is going to look like. Probably, unfortunately, the good thing is they said the reports were that AJ greens not going to play next week. But then there was just a little asterisk at next to it. And they said, but they know he's really tough. And there's a chance. So I wouldn't one hundred percent rule him out next week. I think the preferable thing is there at Baltimore next week AJ green takes that week off you avoid all of your bingles. And then we'll get rolling with them after that. Well, I mix it is kind of concerning to me because it's too worst games. This year is to to worse games are at Kansas City blow out and home against the saints blow out we just didn't get enough work. So he had eleven carries for sixty one yards is tremendous to catches for twenty four yards eight fantasy points ten and PR. That's not so bad. But mixing is a guy who can be a superstar if they're getting blown out. He can't I don't think he'd be a superstar. You're right. So I just hope I hope AJ green gets back Bengals not looking. So good right now any other thoughts on the saints. Or can we drop twig Trayvon Smith did not have a target? I would not drop trae Kwan Smith, and he's the exact type of player that you want to have on your bench. And when they play a good offense at home. You're starting tree quote Smith, but in games like this when they're on the road. And they're gonna play this throw twenty-five passes thing. You're only starting him as I hope one of those twenty five passes a sixty year Bom, well, his next to matchups Philadelphia and Atlanta at home. So that could work so yeah, I think we're gonna be interested in him this week Washington. Sixteen in Tampa Bay three. Alex Smith has been over owned since the start of the season. He is still seventy eight percent owed. He better be like thirty percent owned next week just stop without Smith. He shouldn't only be owned into quarterback leaks re with that. I think we can give people one more week to determination because six quarterbacks on a bite, but they're all bad almost all of them are bad. So how expensive I know? Thing run through the teams that are on by next week. Dave who's on by next week the Buffalo Bills and the New York Jets? I know they're on by. Oh, yeah. That's exciting stuff. What are we going to those teams? We also have the Browns on by. We have dolphins on the patriots the entire sees is on by and San Francisco or they in the AFC east post, San Francisco and who. Who'd you say Cleveland, Cleveland Cleveland? Yeah. So crappy. So it is a it is a by Dato, but it's like a category would they don't do that for for tornadoes. We talked about Adrian Peterson. We put him on the worry ometer, Josh docs, score, which means at least one wide receiver has caught a touchdown against Tampa Bay in every single game this season, but MAURICE Harris at five fifty two on five targets. Do you have any interest in Josh oxen or MAURICE Harris against USA next week? Yes. I will have interested MAURICE Harris and PR leagues for sure. Let's assuming Jamison Crowder doesn't come back. This was a game LX myth kinda like drew Brees Abed only through twenty-seven passes because their defense played. So well in Tampa Bay score three points thing. I picked up their defense drop the Vikings. Am I right? Hey, he that was fraudulent how how how? Who are you? How do you feel about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers wide receivers? Who starting next week Horbert? How much does it matter? Ryan Fitzpatrick is turned back into a pumpkin against the bears. He had a good half after playing awful against the Panthers threw for four hundred yards this game and somehow to score points even for hundred yards. It's up. My takeaway. Was that mad right? It's terrible today. Right. He was so bad. Well, Evans only had six targets which was unusual to Sean Jackson, speaking pumpkins. He looks like he's Chris goblin at one hundred yards and Adam Humphreys, pumpkin pumpkins, I love the fact that the week after we stopped yelling at people for not having Chris God on their roster. He gets a hundred dollars. I don't know what to say this point tell me what to say about the Tampa Bay wide receivers. You're still starting Mike Evans, Chris Godwin is what the heck flex. And. So is Sean Jackson is Mike Evans a stud. No, no, no. All right. He's he's good. I think I feel pretty similar to what I felt about him at the beginning of the year that he was a high end number two and not a number one. Okay. Mic Evans recipes. I'll think two. Let's go to Cleveland Atlanta. Cleveland Twenty-eight Atlanta sixteen. Matt Ryan twenty four fantasy points outdoors on the road three hundred and thirty yards. He did throw fifty two passes but two good games in a row for Matt Ryan outdoors, and he now has three hundred thirty four yards and six of his last seven games. That's wonderful. Tevin Coleman had did he t not score? Touchdown seven so seven Coleman really should have scored a touchdown. He had so many opportunities to get in. They had first and goal from like the one and they just throwing the ball. It was crazy Julio Jones had a one yard touchdown run. As Davis reminding me touchdown catch. So Coleman was very close to scoring. Just didn't happen. What are your falcons thoughts here? Heath. I will little bit concerns about Tevin Coleman just because he had not been very good before last week when he had the monster game. And a lot of that monster game was catching a screen brickner tackle and going to the house. And so you talked about it receiving touchdowns for running back scream. So Heidi you his big week was scoring two receiving touchdowns. Yeah. So I still think he's a low in number two running back, but he is more involved in the running game than those other guys do Johnson. He's still going to get twelve to fifteen carries most weeks. Eight eleven this game. Yeah. I would say ten to ten to thirteen most weeks. Yeah. Fifteen ten thirteen. Sure. Yeah. I'm a little worried about him as being more than a low in number two running back. Sure rather have Nick job. Yeah. Okay. Folks show Rashard Higgins caught a touchdown. We talked about Mayfield the joke. We talked about the Browns Chicago thirty four and Detroit twenty two. So Dave talked about Matthew Stafford he's only eighty four percent owned. He's eighty four percent owned. Eighteen fantasy points in this game. He had a terrible game last week. It was at Minnesota. But he could be very good for you in week eleven against Carolina. I think we talked about the running back. How do you feel about Marvin Jones and Kenny golladay can't go out? It was late but six catches seventy eight yards and a touchdown thirsty targets Marvin Jones hurt his knee. Three catches fifty five yards on seven targets heath goal at a made a couple of remarkable catches in this game. He is. So so talented, I just hope the Stafford can get on the same page. I think he legitimately has number one wide receiver upside over the rest of the season. He's not a safe guy in that range and you'll have weeks where he's not even a number two. But he has that type of upside six-try talented, dude. And I love him this week against Carolina kindergarten fan to align up. Did you can't into cash did have you not seen the top ten or f f t content? Oh, I was number eight what the contrarian plays on CBS sports this morning were Mitchell Trubisky, Nick Chubb, Kenny Goldie and Mike Davis. I had Mitchell Trubisky in my lineup. I loved them this week. Oh, he is winning sixty two. He's one sixty two dollars and fifty cents, ladies and gentlemen. I just miss cashing. I finished two hundred seventy. I had mentioned to Trubisky originally in my life. I hate when this happens, and then I had so much money left over that. I changed Aaron Rodgers. And that ended up costing me a lot. So that's the lions and bears and Tigers game. And let's go to the chargers. And the exactly chargers raiders. Philip rivers did not come through. He only had eighteen fantasy points today. Yeah. What do you think about rivers? How does he match up with some of these elite must start guys is he in that group? I think the thing with the raiders is there a terrible terrible defense that presents a great matchup for opposing passing games. But their offense is so bad that you're going to get games like this where the other quarterback just doesn't have to do very much twenty six pass attempts. He has had now five straight games with twenty seven or fewer pass attempts almost all of the been twenty seven or twenty six pacits. It's just hard especially when you don't run. It's hard to be great. But he had been great, even so officiant. I mean, how about Brian Schottenheimer running the Seahawks and the chargers offense at the same time and both of them forming will this week. Yeah. Belva Gordon's amazing that big play a sixty six yard touchdown. Catch believe he led the team in receiving an rushing Keenan Allen was the only receiver did anything for them. So, you know, streaky with Tara woes for sure. You know, I gotta give Doug Martin credit four yards per carry. Not great. But. Like he's hit ninety ninety two total yards in this game. Yes. She looks pretty good. I think when I was I said this Benadryl Peterson. He was running hot. I think Doug Martin look like he has something left in the tank. Yeah. It's too bad that he's stuck in this wasteland. Yeah. But he's got a great match up next week. The raiders have here's ONA Arizona. Thank you next week. Exactly. Great match up. All right. I think we're pretty much done with this game. Jared cook for catches fifty two yards tied with Jalen Rashard who had five catches for fifty two yards for the most on this team. So you pretty much know you're getting from the raiders we can week out. Mike Williams, seventy one percent on tyrod Williams. Eight percent of which you let them go for Anthony Miller one hundred percent. Targets. In this game. Wow. Tori. Right. And I got politics for being a little behind. This weekend was my brother's bachelor party. And it's not that I'm like not not recovered, but be a lot cooler if it would be, but I am completely recovered. But it was just kind of a hectic day family stuff dinner with a bunch of people while watching red zone and getting to the office to do this podcast. So my bad Rams thirty six that reminds me we were in New York, and I had some great New York beer save it save it for Tuesday. I wanna ask all of you about the show about New York on Tuesday. Great New York beer. Okay. Good. I hope pizzas. Well, Rams thirty six thirty one. Russell Wilson thirty two fantasy points Jared Goff twenty four fantasy points. Russell Wilson rushed for ninety two yards. We already talked about that. Would you prefer? Rashad penny. Your Mike Davis going forward? You think or Chris Carson who's the best running back in that backfield? I think Rashad pennies the most talented running back in that backfield. I still expect when Chris I don't think Chris Carson lost his job today. Robert. Yeah. Good. If Chris Carson's back next week, then I think it's just a big, ugly, mess, Robert woods. So remarkably consistent with yard is like seventy seventy or more yards every week at eighty nine this week, but Doug Baldwin versus Tyler Lockett. I this point. I just cannot start Doug Baldwin and Tyler Lockett their best receiver lock it is owned. I think in one percent more of the extend Baldwin tire lock it is their best receiver and the difference is on this team the way they're operating right now, without very many positives. You need to be able to make the big play and luck. It's the big playoff action. So I think they're both going to have bad weeks, but lock it's more likely to make your day on one play than Baldwin is. Yeah. Miami thirty one Green Bay twelve. How are you in Frank gore? Hope that was not that was not this word. Green Bay thirty one Miami twelve. Okay. Green Bay thirty one Miami twelve thank you heath and the dolphins weather six four boss, but they still have a better record than the wait. Who is a better winning percentage? Who who is? Yeah. No the dolphins played an extra game. So you can't compare them this way they were both in the same division. Who would be in first place the five and five is again, Packers thirty one no way. Who would be the first place the five at five dolphins of the four four at one Packers. I think the four four two one Packers. It would come down to tiebreakers. No check their winning percentage right now. Heath it's five hundred you're right. Right. Right. Losses. Cash God that was so stupid anymore. Wow. Losing my bide right now. I've exhausted. Okay. Danny amendola. Should do you should tweet. Jamie and seal give you those last minutes back. You know, he will seven catches for seventy two yards on ten targets. Put Marquez Marquez about this gambling. Six catches for forty four yards on seven targets so Aminullah. Good Valdas gambling bad. Heath good, Adam Bede and the show. I was encouraged by let he is Brock osweiler's favourite wide receiver. And I think he's storable in PPO leagues, especially in games where they're playing good offenses, and they'll be chasing the score. This was a weird weird game for VS. Because before he was the low volume guy that was making big plays. They were throwing to him way too, close to Leonard scrimmage. How did this get the b our ten minutes? Our we spent ten minutes. Becker tidy hour long show perfect. Dave Richard atom as we'll see on Tuesday with the waiver wire.

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Running Backs Preview Part Two (08/11 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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Running Backs Preview Part Two (08/11 Fantasy Football Podcast)

"This is fantasy football today from. CBS, Sports. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Now here's some combination of Adam Dave Jamie Heath Ben. To of your running backs preview for twenty twenty Atta Mazer here Dave Richard Your we know you know you. You know how you feel about running backs. Welcome back. Thank you. Well said good intro there. He's comings and Ben Gretchen here he. Running back this year. That's fine. I like him. Okay. All right and Ben I gave a little love to the running back dead zone yesterday. Not. As well as you could. I'm sure but I pointed out how disappointing the around three and four running backs have been. The last couple of years has it going? How do you feel about running backs? Burning backs. None of them. But I just I don't like running backs. What don't like? You've been hurt Dato matter. which ones you like we'll see what's ones you like as we go through the show. It ADP review here on for us. It's Monday afternoon for you. It's Tuesday and remember we have twitched tonight PBR mock draft on twitch. I'll tell you more and more about that. First thing I wanted to I exercise we're going to do here is four different spa, awo exercise I didn't sign up for this. That after your APP state joke yesterday I. Know You didn't sign up for this yes. Okay. By the way, Dave almost wore that shirt today that would have been really weird. or or? Amusing. Musing if we have the same shirt or on YouTube youtubecom slash fantasy football today. Okay I'm giving you each a spot in the draft. You're gonNa tell me based on average rap position half PBR from fantasy pros. How would you approach running backs just give me an example of maybe one way to do it. I'm going to give myself the first pick since I had the first pick last weekend in the flex draft two Saturdays with this point. And I'll tell you how that went. That was an industry draft I gave Heath I think the Fifth Pick Ben, the eighth pick and Dave the twelfth pick. So here we go I pick how do you approach running back? All right. You're taking McCaffrey number one if you have the second pick could take Barkley Camaro Z whatever. But you got your start running back. So this was a twelve team league. It was three receivers to flex spots and it was half PTR. In round two running backs went pretty brin pretty early. So the best available were James Connor and Melvin Gordon in my opinion for net was off the Board Aaron Jones out the Board Todd Gurley was out toward but I just went Juju Smith. Kettle and that means I'm GONNA be a little bit weaker running back but I'm okay with that especially to get cable round one McCaffrey round to judy round three kid around four. I did not get much luck in this draft Jonathan Taylor went three picks before my pick to Jamie. I took Devon Single Terry and I took Tyler Lockett at the four five turn. So that gives me two running backs two receivers in tight end by I two picks I really wanted Ronald Jones at the end of round six he went to pick before me. So I took Marlin Mac doesn't feel great and then took brandin cooks. Now, three running-backs through my first seven picks I finished with Daryl Henderson, in round eight. AJ Dylan Josh Kelley later in the draft. McCaffrey Single Terry Mac Henderson Dylan and Kelly. It's not great. It's not great I went back and I reviewed it. What could I have done differently what could I have done better? Look personally, I think that taking. Her twenty fourth or fifth overall instead of George Kibble. Would have been a mistake would have been reached. So I don't regret those picks maybe I could've taken jk diva's instead of Marlon Mac maybe that might help me later in the year snack and help me earlier in the year. Maybe, I could've taken Philip Lindsay this probably where I could have done better. Philip Lindsay instead of dairy slayton something like that yes yeah. Zach Moss instead of Darius Slayton. Remember it's a three receiver league and Catches Count Yeah this is actually the way that you describe that as a is like I I would love to respond to because the two situations where he said the guy you wanted didn't go eric's using went just before you and so you just took another guy That's the exact situation where I think it's wrong to take a running back in those routes like that is if you WanNa talk about a mistake in my opinion, your mistake is that you still stuck with running back even though there wasn't the running back that you wanted like were you didn't get wrong Jones Beach Mar Mac you just take another receiver there you get strong a different that's what I do you get strong another position and you understand you can build up you take an extra one later and you and you hope that you get one of those late round hits that Volts forward, just because of an opportunity opening up for them but running backs position where that can happen and I think so many drafters the natural thing and the how extremely running back unfriendly I am in drafts is so uncomfortable when you're doing it and so many drafters do what you just described as I'm not trying to get something wrong. But that is like the crux of the way that I think about it when I draft like don't just chase it because there's a position that you need to fill. Okay. It's easier to do though because he had McCaffrey I been. Yeah. Of course absolutely. Okay. I completely, Hey, Devon single terry and Marlon Mac or two running backs that went after the like I like those guys enough and you do need some running back depth look. Sometimes, you have to take unexciting players because you're going to have by weeks and you're GonNa have injuries and you need eight points to get by in the waiver wire stinks. So I don't completely regret the pics but I I get that philosophy. Okay. Let's go to fifth pick heath. How would you this was a real draft I'm going to let you unless you have A real draft drawn otherwise using ADP. How would you structure your team at running back and this is the problem that I have when we talk about half pr in that like I, know it's a nice mcvay after of the two formats and so hopefully, it will apply a little bit to both but it's also of the three probably the one that's used the least. and. So looking at half P ADP. Michael Thomas Is Fifth Derrick Henry is sixth. Well, if it was a p league I would take Michael Thomas and I just wouldn't get a running back in the first round. It was a non league. I'm definitely taking Derrick Henry in the first round at fifth if he's there. In the second round again looking at this ADP, I'd be pretty thrilled to get Kenyan Drake Austin Mile Sanders and they're all showing. They should be there in the second round. The fact is they're never there in the second round of the drafts we do. I. Don't think they probably are going to be there for you either. So I'm probably taking Travis Kelsey or George biddle. Okay and then okay. All right. Fine. So you have maybe no running backs, your I two picks or maybe of Henry and kit or whatever. Well, if I have Michael Thomas and Travis Kelsey I am completely fine having no running backs now what? Now, you're going to have to be I, think there are running backs available in round three that are worth taking their I'm still a pretty big fan of Chris Carson. And I'm pretty happy to get him in the middle of the third ranch I'm okay with that. So that's probably the to I. Don't have any running backs. If I've already taken a running back, I'm more likely to take Dj more or Calvin Ridley in that spot and around three. But again, round four James. Connors, there I think James Connors an awesome fourth out bic. So I'm perfectly happy. So if I start my draft with Michael Thomas Travis Kelsey Chris, Carson, James Connor, I've got two of my top fifteen running backs, my number, one wide receiver and I remember one tight end. Fantastic. Get Carson Connor who's your backup plan. There's not really from the fifth spot. I don't think there is another running back I would take an either of those two spots Jonathan Taylor. I would not take him in the first four rounds. I would rather start with Michael Thomas Dj more Calvin Ridley Travis Kelsey. Okay Fair enough. I'd feel great about that and then I wouldn't really hate deck around five. Okay. Then who are some mid to late round? Best you're going to be taking like there's there are and that's the thing is it's very true that there's this group of elite running backs that I've Kinda think probably runs out before you get to the end of the first round, but we're expanding it to go into the second round. That are true difference makers in hard to make up for if you don't have one of those guys but there's also a ton of running backs available after round six than I am fine with starting with if I have guys like that I would in this type of situation I'd like to have one of like David Montgomery in full. Round seven or eight I'd love to have one of Tariq go and what I want is to guys maybe Marlin macro Kerryon Johnson that I feel like I can start weeks one, two three and then I want a bunch of lottery tickets you mentioned jk Dobbins. Daryl Henderson, chase. Edmunds Tony Pollard andor Madison I went those types of guys as long as I have to feel good about starting week one. All right, let's go to the eighth or ninth pick right around there. Ben Uh, give you that draft slot. How would you approach running back? Yet tough spot in drafts this year I would. Probably because I thought it was interesting. He did mention Cook but I have cooked still at five in this format or wasn't looking at either Thomas or Henry, and as soon as those guys are gone in Henry is not a consideration for me even in half be happy are. So at eight, it would be as soon as those other five are gone the four that we agree on. Cook. I'm going to be going to either Thomas For it's tyreek Hill at number two or Davante Adams. If really high and then on the way back probably getting myh RB ONE I don't hate taking are being the first two rounds but certainly at the back half of the first round when you're not getting when those elite running backs at the heath was talking about. It does become a little bit more more precarious, and so I think in this scenario probably get one but I can also see what he's just said as being my structure. Miles Sanders or Clyde Brasilia's elite or mixing in half. BP, I think they both get dinged a little bit I. I like them both and no I. Don't think they have a lead upside. I don't I don't think of them as lead picks I think they have. Okay. There might be six in our seven P pr but I don't think it was leaks in the second round. I might go with one of those guys if they were there Iran. Probably if they were there if not like a job or Jacobson happy are fine for me and then basically from the third at I know of taking. Taylor. Tunnel drafts, I still really liked John Taylor I. Still I will say that discussions that we've had have made me recognize it kind my path for his ascension is probably more of an upside path where. He's getting plenty of worker in the season because they're software early season schedule. Then he's earning a huge role in the second half. Let's probably more of an upside path and more. Particularly we get closer to the season and I'm seeing what's happening in baseball and some other sports I am sticking to that idea that running back the most opportunity based position is the one where The the late around picks can gain the most value just by getting thrust into a starting role. If somebody has to miss time, we already know running backs time at a high rate anyway. So I, don't mind having like he said loading up on lottery tickets having a whole running back room and not late round, not sixteen throughout monetary picks but like from like around seven or eight through around thirteen where we can get a lot of those guys he just named or. I would stress that to include Boston. Scott who I love and Barrington Evans and there's several names. If I get a whole running back group of those guys, it looks like I have no one to start in week one I understand that there's concern about that ideal. You like you said, you'd you'd want guys fill your Zach mosses and other guy throwing that group Antonio Gibson is going in that range. But how about how are you getting like me your first five rounds? From eight or nine spot. Okay let's say I take tyreek or Adams doesn't matter, and then I'm GonNa take one running back in the second round in the third round probably trying to get dj more fees there the fourth and I'm trying to get Brown. If he's there in the fifth round I'm taking another one of those receivers you know single Terry was there when I talk about the single terrific I don't hate single Terry I would not even put him anywhere near the available receivers that are there when you just. Think. About it in raw terms like feeling good starting spot. If Tyler lockets there if he's not digs or those types of players Terry, maclaurin Dj Shark in the fifth and unloading up at receiver I'm probably addressing tight end at some point, I might take mark. Andrew depending on where he goes I I could make the case that keep he's made about taking Kelsey or kill in the second round and then yeah, just loading up on a lot of late around running backs and that strategy is. It's the eight slot, but it's kind of applicable to where I'm drafting from anywhere. All right, Dave. Let's go a little old school here and maybe show a little bit more loved running backs. Heath and banner. Are risk-takers. They are what? I'm sorry. What did I say what I say like? Running backs are still the riskiest position. Very, not even first two rounds, not not that bad of first two rounds. But they could still breakdown of. Last year. They did pretty well last year. I. Mean it was. It was kind of disappointing because Barclay and Chimera got hurt I get that but. That's that's the big part of the risk because they are more likely to get hurt today are they are, but they're also there are also more likely to be great than any position I'd say you know what was the first round pick last year I pick yeah. He was a huge bus I'm you know what I'll tell you? I'll tell you exactly what happened last year two, thousand, David Johnson was another one obviously somebody got traded. But that's a good example of someone who was valuable because of the size of his work load and the running back workload can just vanish and he got a little injury and I it was really chase Edmund. It's going to tell you what ADP was Barkley Chimera McCaffrey Zeke David Johnson James Connor Levy on Bell Neck Chubb Round. One round. So that's more misses the hits. Okay round two was very good though Cook girly mix for net. Carson Damian Williams. That's five out of six finishing in the top fourteen in half. So. That's really good and then overall I mean we're David Johnson. Go I thought he went and. Did, he was around one pick. His realm pick and that was an unusual because the two previous years around one was a lot better than that and those guys basically had to get injured. To be bad I'd say or. Bell. Several Levy on Bell David David Johnson was a top ten running back before he got her. That's the point though soon as he got banged up his backup performed well enough that they were like you know what? He was valuable because of his opportunity he was an efficient runner. He was adding value in the passing game was a bad. He shouldn't have taken a guy who who was bad. Who's basically got lucky with workload the year before average like three point seven yards per carry. It was a bad pick, but you know running back. In hindsight to say the battery? Picks. Trump I, the first two I look I laid out on yesterday show. The first two rounds are typically pretty good. They are at. Then you've even made that point I mean that's where they have better rates for sure. Yeah. So take risk but. It's hard to find hard to find running backs. You take this strategy like last year, the strategy that heath and Ben just laid out. Probably lost, it was not a good strategy last year and it's not true. I. Don't agree because I did it and one leaks. Yeah. But the League wide receivers that we all consider so safe every year they were good last year and where were those high upside running backs that paid off last year I mean yeah it didn't happen as frequently. Back. Oh Dave, you're picking twelve would you do well first and foremost I think the last five minutes of this podcast relate out the very first thing that every fantasy magic should do before they go into their draft and that's look at a list of running back rankings and find out where you're comfortable. Everybody's GonNa, feel comfortable with the first four guys and I think most people will feel pretty comfortable Alvin Cook. But how comfortable would you be starting Clyde towards e Clyde Edwards layer as your number one running back her mouth Sanders Joe Mixing. Drake, those names, Aaron Jones, we talked about him on Mondays podcast is that somebody that you'd be really cool starting how do you feel about Connor Carson and then you go all the way down to girl in Gordon the fewer running backs that you're comfortable with the sooner you should draft running backs in your fantasy draft because at the very least you want to have a team review like your players and if you go. Zero R B at least you know, hey, look I like a lot of running backs later I want to be safe early on you're comfortable at that. You know that and you'll be okay starting Marlin. Mac and Jordan Howard for the first couple of weeks of the season but you've got to be comfortable. You GotTa know what you want here. Because at wide receiver, you'RE GONNA find somebody worth the value in every single round. then. We've already outlined a lot of names out there that we like quarterback deeper than ever. If I'm picking twelfth and I've got those back toback picks. I've gotta come away with at least one running back but I can't say for sure I'm taking too because I know. That there's going to be an elite wide receiver there according to the ADP that we're looking at Julio Jones is still there and I'd love to get him. But if Tyreek Hill makes that far I'm going to take him along with a running mal sanders ADP that we're looking at fantasy prose, FBI, Pr He's going twenty first he's a first round pick regardless of format. He's going to be great this year. I'm comfortable with him being my first round pick so if I. Start my draft, Mile Sanders and a stud receiver and come back in round three and I'll cross my fingers that one of Jones won't be there. But Carson or connor will be there. I'm loving it. I'm happy and if they're not there that I might have to make a decision between Melvin Gordon Todd Gurley maybe there's another run back that I consider it wouldn't be John Taylor. Sorry. Ben. But it could end up being receiver tight end or receiver receiver and I've got at. least one running back through my first four picks and whether you go hog wild on running back early or solo rb where you're only taking one study, you'll worry about that second rb later on I think those are the two best paths to take I. think that they protect you from having to fumble through running backs all season long and it it also will save you. It'll it'll save you some face because a lot of teams in your fantasy leagues are going to have. Very. Good running backs very sociable running backs and the reason why I gravitate toward them because they have a chance for twenty to thirty five fantasy points per game, you've got to start two of them. You can't say the same thing for wide receivers. They don't have ads much upside on a per week basis or a per season basis as running backs. Do I want to get that position loaded if I can okay I'm just going to say a looking at the flex draft. The the guy who the eleven th pick he took Clyde Edwards air and Austin. And then he took our full, then he took our Robinson and Robert Woods I mean, and that's exactly my point is that you can still get to very good running backs and is that P or full dvr three receiver league with axes. You. Prefer those in full P pr. But at least you're getting something out of that in half and the receivers that you've gotten rendering four. Great. Yeah. No one should complain if Allen Robinson and Robert Woods are your to starting wide receivers in a format where receptions cap. Your only to starting receivers you gotta start three and you gotTA. Start. Flexes to Got Stefan Digs as third and he's got flex. Yeah. I mean. He's got camakers as well. Okay. And that many more receivers. Yep. So you you named his first three go through. Their actor Alan Robinson Robert Wood, Stefan digs I five picks, the other receivers, CD, Lamb Stevenson's Corey Davis. Let's look at the twelve pick this draft though bic also went rb rb Josh Jacobs Nick Charles. Aj Brown Jay Brown Amari Cooper. So. That's another way you start. I'm not going to go through the whole team. No, but. I think you're GONNA see a lot of teams go with two running backs to start this year goes excel people fear having to start a running back that they're not comfortable with at some point during the season and it's GonNa Happen to somebody if half the teams in the League are GonNa go running back running back all these running backs are not going to stay healthy all year. Long and and maybe that's the point that Ben is really trying to hammer home is that the fragility of the positions should matter but everybody's GonNa have six running backs on their team. Everybody's GonNa take shots on late round guys. It's it's it's the fantasy major that hits those late round guys and or more hits on the ground running back. That's going to coast to the fantasy playoffs. I just WANNA the heat don't. WanNa. Bring you back because I feel like I cut you off earlier this strategy of taking late round flyers, the pollards dead men's the Madison's Addison gets a little bit more work The problem I have with it is that it could depend on your bench size and you could have injuries early in the season and you could have a roster crunch and how can you justify taking someone who literally giving you one or two points strictly on your bench as a I'm hoping someone else gets injured. Play it's sometimes it's tough to justify keeping them and you end up having to cut them. So that's why I don't want to go too heavy on it and would what do you think about that? Adam, heath just stepped out. So let's throw that question to Gretch. All right heats. Question I think in shallower bench formats like some of the ones that we play we played in it with some of our CBS last year I think it's a lot harder to execute this. Absolutely one hundred percent agree won't disagree with what you just said there was five bench spots. in that format, it makes it a lot more difficult and part of what Dave said is ever team's GonNa have like six running backs and whoever hits on the late running back. Part, of my strategy is just based on bulk. We don't know who round stars are going to be a we'd be drafting them higher if you draft five of them compared to someone else drafting too late round running backs, you immediately have a greater chance of I mean even if you're not better at picking players, you have a better chance of one of them hitting just based on the fact that you have significantly more of them. We don't know where the injuries are gonNA come. You know it's it's very unpredictable, and so there is something of a you know taking multiple bites the apple approach to that right and you know what going to say. Do both get the running backs early, load up on. Later you don't necessarily have to carry a lot of bench wide receivers and I'm fine with that. The to the two starts at Adam just read with a two running backs in the first second round I'm not opposed to that I'm not that's not my issue is in the third to the seventh or eighth, but those those teams went running back running back. We're we're still in the top fifteen where we still trust a lot of these backs and then they went straight to receiver I'm fine with. Yeah. Okay. Well, I thought we were going to get into ADP quickly, but this turned out to be a pretty I. Think useful helpful conversation with some different perspectives on how to draft running backs and look I. Guess we're just kind of sitting there waiting waiting for for football to come back right and Oh, and he spects to that's good. But look this has been a very different summer. No question about it social distancing is changing. 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So it's Definitely the one that I choose when I need a moment of Jill and so you want to reset this summer reach for the bill beer that's made to chill and and no nasty after. Thank you very much. Thank goodness and you can have course delivered by going to get dot coors light dot com and finding local delivery options near you celebrate responsibly course bring company Golden Colorado. Okay Hey hey, he's. On this. Did you really don't like I think. Even known I asked You a question and I didn't know you were gone and that Shaggy Lehto we have this messaging system set up for in showed where we send each other messages and I always pay attention to your message is no one else does but I always pay attention to your messages I just thought you would pay attention to mind. I saw one of the last show but Gawk closed. It was from heathen and said, he's not GonNa see this. I'm sure whatever message he was talking about was probably directed me and I didn't see it. I. Dave. Just sent me a note Alvin. Kamara said he tore his knee in week six and was dealing with it the whole season. Well, that's not true date. He was dealing with after week six but fair enough. So that. About camera and we're about to talk about him because let's get into our average draft position. Review here fantasy prose half pr there are a few that really stand out is one that I don't think we really believe like Mile Sanders going twentieth overall but maybe I mean I think he's a first round pick now and a lot of leagues but maybe he maybe he's back into the round round to I know. But here we go here running backs McCaffrey Barclays Zeke Kamera are your first four pics then Michael Thomas then Derrick Henry Than Dalvand Cook. Maybe Delve Cook I'll double check right now maybe Dobbin Cook as a head of Henry NPR. But in half you are essentially tied and yet cook is actually because some reason. Ahead of, Chimera NPR. Don't really understand that other basically. I think what you have to recognize is at it says it on the site there there have pr rankings come from a different site than their rankings which come from a different site. Then they're not PR ranking. So I'm not just format but I'm looking at ADP is now ranking. Yes different. Yes I know I believe that's the same. I believe the CBS rankings UC on their or under their non PR rankings. Probably Eighty. Eighty P okay. Okay. Anyway. You got your top six running backs are McCaffrey. Barclay Elliott Kamara, Cook, and Henry. With only Michael Thomas, mixed in there. Do we have anything to say look we did a everyone is a bust episode a couple of weeks ago so Maybe I hope y'all heard that but do we have anything that we want to say about this? Is there a player or players that you're avoiding anyone that you like more than everyone else heath I'll give you the I if he's long as you're still here, I'll give you the first word I believe the biggest discrepancy we have would between Dave and is with Zeke Elliott's I know he hasn't number two behind Christian McCaffrey I think I currently have him number five. It's really interesting but he has been super consistent and remarkably productive on a per game basis basically always. But last year a really high touchdown rate hid that they changed the way they used them a little bit. His carries were down about ten percent from where they've ever been on a per game basis. His targets were not where they were in twenty eighteen and Tony Polar. It's pretty good. I think he's going to touch the ball a few times every game, which wasn't always the case with Zeke's backup. I don't know unless he scores all those touchdowns again, the that he's going to be a top through anywhere. But all those things happened last year and he was still an incredible fantasy running back and he was still super consistent and you could say the touchdowns headed guess what it's not like he's about to go to zero at touchdown. He's GonNa score a lot this year the offense is tailored perfectly for him to do exactly that when they get in the red zone defense is going to be a binding against this team. Might lose three or four to Dacca over the course season. But he's been doing that every single year I think he's a safe and consistent as gets if you're looking for a safe consistent running back Ezekiel that. So why doesn't everybody just give me your top five running backs? He started. And we're doing half PR. Why don't you tell the difference in formats I guess like I've got this in this format and this and that format. Okay. Yeah. Problem and non. I it McCaffrey Barclay. Henry's Zeke Chimera. And then Cook. And then Cook. I'm no better than six yeah cooks, Cook Sixteen, both for me I just think he's like Dave talked about safe Zeke is I can't imagine someone being riskier. Then delvin cookies with his injury history in. I go McCaffrey Barclay Chimera. Zeke and then Cook and then Henry. Okay. So we're going six. Six, Dave you're next non er are actually it's the same order non PR PR the first four, McCaffrey Zeke Barclay Camera, and then once you get to full P. Pr. will be five and Edwardsville. Larry will be six in non PR and I'll probably in the swing half CPR's well Derrick Henry Five Thousand Cook Six Ben. McCaffrey Barclay Kamera. Elliott. Cook Edward to Lehrer. Non Don't actually have. Ranked anywhere but it'd probably be McCaffrey Barclay Elliott Than Chimera, I think I would put Elliott ahead of Chimera non that will be close though I let him quite a bit more for some of the reasons he said Than Cook is GonNa stay five for me in non Maybe Derrick Henry six but I probably would never take him. Well Jamie's basically said that you know and when we say Derrick Henry it's like we know how high he goes. So we're we're just not gonNA take him in the first round, which means we're not GONNA get Derrick Henry is that's what Jamie said. Ben Seems to feel that way to. We. I don't want this podcast to be the Anti Derrick Henry podcast. So why don't you be a little more pro Derrick Henry? He is an incredible specimen team that if they have their way, we'll run the ball as much as any team in the NFL. They are not going to be as good as they were last year, but they went to championship game with this approach. So I expect them to be pretty stubborn. Think, they're going to make a massive shift three four weeks in if they're sitting at two and two in terms of their run pass volume, and so I still expect he's going to have more carries than anyone else. He's going to be above average on a per carry basis. He's going to score a ton of touchdowns and he's going to catch somewhere between five and ten more passes than he did last year and probably break one of those for like a seventy five yard touchdown because that's what he does and nobody wants to tackle. Derrick. Henry. Okay the concerns would be Ben-. What are your concerns? They doesn't do any of those things. Catching five or ten more passes I WANNA. Hear that explanation because titans GM John Robinson after draft talked up during Evans specifically about how a skill set translates the pass blocking I don't think they have any interest in Dirk koetter catching more passes. He's never caught twenty passes in a season and I have no idea why he would. Like Last last year in fifteen games than I haven't for throwing twenty percent more passes. So I would expect he'd catch a couple more as well. Okay. Yeah. I don't think there's going to be any type of big jump here in Receptions I. Mean I've talked about on previous podcast Ben you just said it. They've had them for four years. You'd think at some point in the last four years I'd say, let's get this big guy involved in the passing game and they've never done it and he told us he's trying to earn his coaches confidence to get that role going and Darren Evans shifty running back good hands can plan the slot. He's he's GonNa take whatever big receptions bump Derrick Henry wishes he could have and then add the other concern is rushing. He wasn't a particularly efficient rusher or I mean he was he was efficient He wasn't putting up a ton of points especially NPR scoring through week nine last year in the second half of the season when the whole offense clicked, he was obviously a monster. But when you separate out how he did that during that stretch, he was averaging six point five yards rush from that point on he was averaging a crazy medicare is it would put him on pace I hadn't somewhere I don't remember how high that pace was I gotcha he so he well. He had a hundred and fifty two carries in seven games. So that's well over three hundred carries his first eight. Games Henry was the number nine running back and non yard number twelve and PR. He averaged only three point nine yards per carry. He might be just a guy that gets better as the year goes on I mean that's kind of been a theory on him as certainly held true each of the last two seasons but I there's an argument Ben four and against let's end it here on Henry's we have lot running best because you're right about those first day games people kind of forget that he was not great but he still was top twelve, thousand, nine Pr. Pr Because he had one hundred and fifty one carries and he had eight catches but that's still I don't know. I could see it both positive and a negative. They're like you could say look he average less than four yards per carry but still got so much work that he managed to be top twelve. In non NPR, not per game though probably were snapper game. All right. Anyway that's Derrick. Henry. So let's move on in the first round passed that group. And we've got Joe Mixon. Rb Seven. WE'VE GOT NICK CIA we're actually mix in the last in the top twelve. He's going tenth overall Inbetween Davante Adams and tyreek Hill Nick Chubb Josh Jacobs. Aaron. Jones Mile Sanders Kenyan Drake Austin. Instead, of even bothering with ADP, I could see these guys really going in any order So Nixon Clyde Edwards dealer late riser. So he's not here. He's not on this list right now, but he's certainly in this group. Mixing Clydes Mile Sanders Drake Eker Chubb Nixon. Aaron Jones, think that's pretty much it. Dave. What's your take on that group? That's probably going to be late round one into round two I, think the majority of those running backs have fourteen, hundred, yard, nine touchdown potential, which is great. We'd love to have that honor squad the end of the year but there's a couple of them that I think can be better than that and the two that stand out to me or at were dealer because he's in Kansas City because he doesn't have Damian Williams as major competition anymore the closest major competition is the Andre Washington. I, I, think it bodes very well for him to do a lot of the things that he did it Lsu four Kansas City and an offense that just makes it easy on running backs and I think Mile Sanders is in a position to to benefit from playing in Philadelphia, and he's not going to every single snap, but he should be somewhere around sixty to sixty five percents of the snaps. He's a great pass catcher out of the backfield. You could really tell that he was a better runner, a more patient runner toward the end of last season his aunt pace over. His last eight games was over fifteen hundred yards. He was the first running back and and Doug Peterson's history as head coach. Philadelphia's only a four year history, but it's still a story where he had over a thousand total yards on the year and I think the sky's the limit for him to. So those two guys I look at as easy first round choices in non PR and still pretty easy first round choices in PP are if if you hear those names and you hear my argument and you're still not sold, then you're probably headed toward Michael Thomas in the first round. Yeah but it could be more like you're it. You don't have that choice know Thomas Michael before them. Are you going to take Davante Adams retiree kill over miles sanders and Clyde Edwards right? That's the personal choice. That fan what are you going to make I'm taking the running backs. Running backs over Michael Thomas NPR to I'd just I've got I've got to take my stab at a player. Who's got that kind of upside. Michael Thomas is great upside but I'm I'm GonNa, go with the running backs I in. Here's something I was looking at like Micheal Thomas scored more fantasy points than all running backs except for Christian McCaffrey NPR Lester and we don't think he's going to score as much devante Adams pace over the past two seasons was more fantasy points than any running back besides Christian McCaffrey last year I don't think those got like I am on board with those first four maybe I five. Over the wide receiver. Clear with quite over dealer who I agree has enormous upside but a ton a ton of downside and again I go back to I don't think you can win your league in round one but I do think you can go a long ways towards losing it. You know it's interesting comparing the running backs, the Michael, Thomas because NPR like Pr Michael Thomas in two thousand, eighteen averaged nineteen point seven fantasy points per game. He was blown away by McCaffrey Barclays Zeke Chimaera. Chimaera McCaffrey and Barkley all average more than twenty three and a half twenty three and a half or more. So they crush them. So it's like I. Don't know. Do you do you kind of average out the two thousand and two thousand? We're not comparing him to like those. We've all agreed those four or head of Michael Thomas I'm not trying to make the argument that he's better than those guys. Okay. All right fair enough. I guess it probably was silly detour niche of Joe Mixon. Like I'm love him. Go ahead. Later we get around one the more I love them. Just in general though I'd be like, I love Mile Sanders this year sure. I think I love. I think Joe Mixing showed us. In. The last eight games last year just how impactful he can be in fantasy and how good he could be in Cincinnati and I think Cincinnati upgraded its offense this year not just a quarterback not just having Aj? Agreement. You have. The Passion. And I guess I am finding it in my heart I am it's beaming throughout my nostrils that I love Joe I need to know who you guys love in this group. Then allaire mouth Sanderson Kenyan drake for me are in their own tier. from six to eight NPR, and then the rest of them are in another tier. I go mixing acura Shove Jacobs Henry Aaron, Jones but. I don't really take any of those guys spray. Great. Yeah. It's Chubb Sanders Drake and Clyde, for me and in some order it changes almost daily. Sanders Drake Cli- okay. So you're, not Equa. I didn't think he said I thought he was in the next group no, no this is our Ecuador is by far my favorite of this group. In any format or just NPR and NPR and and half are in non PBR Chubb is my favorite of this group. What do you think like Eh cler has had a lot of work when Melvin Gordon's been out each of the last two years. I'm thinking something like seventeen touches or more per game. Average twenty touches per game last year without Melvin Gordon and in three games without him in two, thousand, eighteen, hundred, seventeen. So. Do you think that's realistic. Are we talking seventeen and more touches per game for? If he does. that. Then I'm probably still to lower them. I don't know. I don't know if that's true. Yeah he might just be I mean he could have his worst year efficiency. Wise ever he probably will. But it's not like last year was the first time you ever extremely efficient he always has been. It's not I mean it's efficiency. Yes. But it's also the touchdowns I think we're actor we you have to recognize how much of a difference Philip rivers to tyrod Taylor is in terms of potential targets we've talked about with Shawn McCoy narrow Taylor's pass before McCoy had fifty and fifty seven targets. The two years that they had Watkins and Robert Woods even remotely decent to receivers Downfield parliamentary speaker Taylor, his sixteen game pays as. The starter was about one hundred passes. You're than Philip rivers just on passes to go around. Then McCoy had one big season where I think it was like seventy seven targets. He led the team with a cloud over one hundred last year cut in nineteen balls I. Think even Boeckler has more targets than McCoy ever had at any point alongside day whereas the clearly back in Buffalo, you're still not talking about talking about a substantial shift from Russia, from receptions to Russia, and that's a huge difference in the potential fantasy valuables touches. Okay. Let's go to the next group here. Real quick I just WANNA. Go Round I want no more than five ten seconds thoughts on. Josh. Jacobs becoming a superstar fantasy superstar. It can happen I I'm a little worried about the reception total being very high form, but if he can keep it together for sixteen games, he's the raiders lead back and it'll be. Ben Heath are grouped heath. Ten seconds on Josh Jacobs though. We're having some issues there with heath scouted out sounds like a typical conversation. I next round Ben you can go grad drink water for the next five minutes I. Don't think you're drafted Ed Baxter for a while here. But we'll see. Leonard for Net Chris Carson Melvin Gordon. Todd Gurley Levy on Bell James. Connor how about that group of six? Not, necessarily going to be round three. Some of them are going to go into round four, but some of them are going to be around to, as we said in the flex draft fornet and girly were around two four net Carson, Gordon Gurley Bell, Connor from what I gather connor and Carson seemed to be the favorites there. Dave's feel right debt. That's how I feel I I'd be nervous at a lot of. People are going to draft a particularly for net and bell because of past performance and they remember Lebanon Bell in Pittsburgh and they'll say there's no way he can be as bad as it was last year in New York and the the reality is he might see less work this year than he did last year and Leonard Fournette he's he's definitely going to see less work in Jacksonville now because the coaching staff. Does like rock armstead they added Chris Thompson he's going to help on passing downs and they tried to trade Leonard for net and they found no takers. So by them trying to trade Leonard Fournette, you don't try and try to play if he's good they didn't think he was good or worth keeping on the roster long-term. They didn't want to give them the contract extension and all that. Maybe they think he's an. Okay back. But thirty one other teams in the National Football League, said now we're good. We're not gonNA, give you what you want for Leonard Fournette. Okay. So what does that mean for four net? Maybe he gets traded before the season or in the middle of the season and maybe it ends up being a really big windfall for his fantasy value or maybe he stuck in Jacksonville with the coaching staff. That's just like. When it comes to let him for that and they they're either going to. Plow him between the tackles and then when it's third down, he's out of there because the new offensive coordinator, trust Chris tops and as a pass catcher or he just doesn't do well period and you're left holding the bag on him for that was good. Once upon a time I'm worried that those opportunities that helped make him good aren't going to be there for him and twenty. Twenty. And Ben, I understand your philosophy is to sort of void this group right not going to be. If there was anyone here for Carson Gordon, Gurley Bill Conner. Anyone that you think could be really good this year. Yeah I mean it's always going to be receptions and touchdowns in Offense related I think really situation is the best and think that is able to stay healthy. If his knee is not an issue, he has the best chance of this group to have a big season. You know they rooted devante Freeman at a time to a little bit probably better of a pass catching back then girly which kind of a little bit weird to say because. Overall. But Gurley was among there was an article today at five thirty on in separate separation desperate. He was among the worst in the league and you just kind of went out into the flat for the last couple years as a pass catcher were doing a lot much better earlier and scream. But I think if he gets some of that back gets a little bit of a spark back and step in. He's doing some of the things that frame and done the pass game and is able to convert in in close which he's always done with rain teams devilish touchdowns last year that's the one here. That's the offense that I would target out of all these veteran backs where. Competition is not great behind them I. think he did really hold onto a big role, but you can take the big points and what you just said about girly and apply directly to James. Connor, and say that if he stays healthy, he's in a great spot to his offensive line is great his offense as good. They're gonNA give him the rock a bunch and he's got a shot at catching over fifty passes. He's done it before he was on pace to do it again last year and he was on pace to score fourteen touchdowns last year. That's how many girly scored I believe. I look at connor as a slightly less risky version of girly mainly because his knees I think are healthier than girls, knees and I think the steelers have no choice that kind of painted themselves into quarter as much as you and I love Anthony Mcfarland Ben I, think the steelers paying themselves new quarter there's okay. Look James Connor is going to be our guy. Well, I think Benny smells in the next to the I would agree with the what degree to what degree is Benny Smell going to be I agree with what you said this comparison completely except for the point about girly not having a ton of backup competition I think conor BITs means Samuels snout McFarland has a lot more competition. Samuels team. And we as far as. Running backs and in competition I think really might have more. I just don't know if they're necessarily good competition. Is the best name, but they always ask. Heath is brought this up I'll speak for heath since he dropped out, they always split carries in Atlanta I mean nobody's. devante. Has Been like a fourteen carry per game guy something like that. I remember my head recently. And by the way, just to bring up Melvin Gordon's name. I think Melvin Gordon's got a pretty good chance at fifty catches. You guys right because he's going to be on there for pass protection. He scored eight or more touchdowns. Three straight years. He's just good at finding the end zone. So He's interesting to me. Sucky your offensive line forum but if you don't yeah, it's always been. That could be trouble for guy that's struggled to maintain a good rushing average. Sure. If you don't like this group, this is why. This is why a lot of people are going to take two running backs. With their first two picks after this group Mark Ingram, Devon Single Terry David Johnson Jonathan Taylor. Mark Ingram Devon Single Terry David Johnson Jonathan Taylor were twenty four running backs, deep guys like any of them Ingram single, Terry Johnson Taylor. I'm starting to feel like we're drafting. For. The same reasons why we're drafting for net and Levian and it's just he's been doing it for so long and he did such an amazing job last year they're five receiving touch lots last five receiving touchdowns last year. It's hard for me to say and it's hard for me to believe. They'll actually do it again and AK Dobbins being there. He was already sharing to a pretty decent degree last year with Gus, Edwards nirex Dobbins I'm starting to get cold feet on Mark Ingram even though it's a really good situation and you know there's a running back. They haven't named yet who I like in the same range and we talk about every show we're not gonNA talk about Roy Jones Yeah. But I mean the hype train is starting to really get going with him. And then you're gonNA. Take him here. I'm GONNA take them right around here like I'm looking at my non PPO rankings and I've got girly at eighteen levy on nineteen ingram. twenty-one Rosette of David Johnson Devon. Single Terry for net Montgomery Moster in non PR and I don't know I'm kind of starting to feel like he could be better than all of them. I know John Head of all those guys to. Jonathan Taylor is the upside pick here for sure. I made a pretty payload I have ahead of all the vets still running back reads I mentioned that I'm China from taking him a favorite some receivers, but I'm not moving down. I made a pretty passionate case for Devon single tear yesterday you can hear that I you know. I I. Really. I do find myself liking decent amount of running backs that are going. In this ranger later and it's personal preference for everybody like I'm not GonNa Take David Johnson and I just think the Texans just not been a very good spot for running backs because they don't throw the two running backs much and still do Johnson there there. There could be a lot of carries, but I don't really trust them to hold up. David talked about that yesterday but like. I can find players in these ranges that I like So we go to the next range. It's also if you like the running backs in this range, you could take too early and then take two receivers and then come back around five and around six and get one of these guys then. Yeah. Then you've got great running back and it's is you like but? You can still got a great quarterback, but you may have lost your chance to get a great tight end, which is fine. You don't have to have a great tight end win but now you can still find a pretty guitar after round south. Fine but you can't find one of the top four. So going into this if we're going into this season thinking the top four tight ends of the difference makers. On draft anyway Dave strategy of two running backs, two receivers another running back probably takes you out of the mix for those top four but. You just take one less wide receiver, and then you've got one of those tight ends on your team because you're gonNA find a wide receiver later. Anyway. All right. Let's go to the next group here after rb Twenty Four, David Montgomery remastered De'andre Swift Kareem Hunt and camakers. Montgomery moster swift hunt acres like anyone in that group I like Montgomery Okay Not Ppo I think he's got some sneaky upside just because of like he's generally the last back available. It's probably going to get two hundred and eighty touches and he was super inefficient last year. But I wouldn't expect that to continue to Rico and with super inefficient last year two, we don't expect that to continue. So I like Montgomery especially non PR although I do think he'll catch twenty five. To thirty passes. Cream hunts my favorite NPR. I think he's a low in number two running back even if Nick Chubb plays all season long and Nick Mrs Time, he's a top five running back instantly. Fair enough how about swift and and acres here anybody. WanNa take a shot. You gotTa Invest Probably a Fifth Round Abia six round pick in swifter acres. Although, ADP I just don't know this ADP doesn't really match up to what we are. Near the five six turn. Okay. So are you are you comfortable with five six pick for MOSTER ACRES OR SWIFT? Yes. But there's a but and this gets into a whole different discussion about handcuffing insurance policies for running backs. I will try and get another running back on the same team if I take one of those three mostly it's my favorite of the three. I think he's breakout potential. I talked last week about him catching passes it's probably not going to happen. That was wishful. thinking swift needs to beat out Kerryon, Johnson and prove. That he can get a lot of action on passing downs. It sounds like the offense coordinator, Detroit Daryl Bebel was not over the moon for de Andrea swift and maybe he's just trying to stay even keeled way talks to the media but it sounded to me like he was very aware that swift had a lot to work on acres has a of competition. I'm starting to really like the value and Darryl Henderson because he keeps leading drafts and and that might be where I land is if I if I decide to go moster, I'm going to try and get Devon Coleman if I swift I'll go and get Karen Johnson but if I if I can really Kind of wait it out in acres one that falls the farthest I would like to get him and then I know I can wait a couple more rounds forgetting Henderson and boom I've got that rams backfield I, think locked up between the two of them Malcolm Brown will be involved, but he might just be a touchdown vulture and if it's PR, those guys can catch the football between the two of them. All of one that should be okay as a number two running back all year. Next group Sony Michelle. He's RB thirty Marlin Mac Ronald Jones I suspect Jones's ahead of them now. Kerryon. Johnson. Yeah Michelle Mack Jones Kerryon Johnson. Does anybody think Jones is not the leader of this group. Of Close. Who's he's the leader of the group but I I don't really share they. It's not even close intimate. Who's who's close to him. I just think he belongs in this group. He's a number three running back that if things go right, he might be a number two. Okay. Like you were number three running back. In yes have you been following any news again in Iraq? Yeah I started following week nine last year when Bruce Arians said, Ronald Jones is the guy. Fifty percent snap share twice the rest of the year. That's not a bad point and then they got rid of the guy who he was sharing. Barbara's on. Now he's. Replacing with Keyshawn Vaughn and Leshan McCoy. So I, if they really wanted to squash roggio. And if you're still listening to Bruce Arians, he's already said being of training camp that Ronald Jones is going to be the lead running back, which is something I pretty much figure it out just from talking to people close Ronald. He was the lead running back last year but that I mean, but not by a wide margin I, think it's going to be by a wide margin this. WANT TO SCREW UP A lot we'll look if you screw up a lot then that's that it's all GonNa crumble bad. That's all he has ever done. No, he's had some really good. Always screws it up, he has had some great place. He's. This guy was the youngest back. Classic last year was is twenty, eight, two season. What are you talking about? I'm and I'm forgiving him his NFL career. As we know what happened is rookie year, we talked about this podcast I guys. So when you look at Michelle Mac and it was a tweet, I wanted to read from Pat Thornton from established a run that Ronald Jones was the one hundred twentieth graded pass blocking running back last year and the Shawn McCoy hasn't allowed a sack since two thousand, sixteen, right it was just putting that out there Machel Mack Jones on Johnson how many of them have top fifteen upside? Any of them have top fifteen upside. I like Jones a lot. He's the closest of that group that might get to fifteen but things are really going to have to go his way I. I think he clearly stop the inside. In not PPO right. Yeah. Well. Look I think it could be PR to. In the data. Back. No because he gets short yardage work yeah. He's going to be well no, he didn't last year you got. Russia's inside. touchdowns were from know inside the five or really close to the goal line that went to barber. Yeah. Inside of ten yards, touchdowns came from inside Ted and Jones is a case for improvement. There's reports that he's worked incredibly hard this. He's put on weight and can do he's caught tons of balls out of jugs missions every day. What like? Every single day. All right. Yeah. Guys walking out during the offseason but the case for Jones's that you still love this talent essentially all along. But like I have and now it's literally just turned twenty three weeks ago. That's how young I listen. To to To season's already NFL. Disappointed but he's incredibly he's younger than some Baxter Scott is younger than Keyshawn Paul. Talked about. So I, the the cases that he is now grown to his body and is going to be very official plant. Let's move on and talk about the next group here. It's James White's Aiba it's Mad Brita Jordan. Howard James White Philip Linzie. Keyshawn Vaughn. That's five running backs there by the way Jacob Dobbins according this website is going one hundred and tenth overall. I've never seen that. But sure. So if that, you can get a one hundred and ten overall, there will be very good pig but yeah dolphins running backs James Wight Philip Lindsey Keyshawn von. Do you guys find yourself drafting any of these players and we're already at the hundred pick here. So we're getting to the late rounds not ready to draft. Lindsey. And Vaughn at this point. Now, that yes, some of these guys I have ranked. Probably far behind some of the guys we haven't mentioned yet. So you mentioned it already getting late round, but I don't think it's dragging. So a of very exciting group I guess Brita and how you want to give me a quick thought on the dolphins backfield. I don't mind those guys at all in the situation where I have drafted him upside running backs and what a week one early starter I expect breed and Howard both have their moments and I think like of route at the end of round eight start around nine. That's right about the spot they should go. So do you think though that if you're just hoping that they could be week one stars. Their. First two games of the Patriots and the bills does that bother you? It's not great. Like I don't know how to account for the Patriots Defense Right now, right? Right. They are weak. Wanted in buffalo week to Yeah I. Mean. That's a good point. And Buffalo starling loaded lay their one of their really good run stopping beat tackles is. Also. True. Okay back, to ADP. JK Dobbins. At one hundred and tenth overall followed by Daryl Henderson and seven. Coleman Dave just spoke about pairing them with camakers and where he mustered Alexander Madison. Latavius. Murray. You are with Madison Murray. You are an injury away from potentially a top five back. Henderson, co-manager if there's anything you add there. What are you laughing at? I wasn't laughing I moved, but I think they're really interesting One thing I think it's real interesting this year with some of the rookie situations like Jonathan Taylor You know we talked about Mac just a minute ago. He's not super excited. We talked about top fifteen upside Taylor mistime Taylor comes down go or or something Mac or Yeah. Would have thought that the upside oftens line in that schedule on all those things that said about Taylor could apply to Mac certainly. So are you some of these? Are you in a rush to get Mac if you get? Taylor on draft no, I'm not but I because I'm I'm making a decision already on which way I want the back of the gopher that offense for that that. Team nine drafted. But my point with those like the way, the ADT structure this year some of those veterans are going a little bit later and he's mentioned their goods zero running back options the lindsays in and whoever but I also think like they're also handcuffs like if something Gordon Lindsay is GonNa play something Andrea Swift Jerry on Johnson's GonNa play a lot more I mean those guys are all. Pretty solid pets in that range you're gonNA eat viewpoints and they're going to essentially get you a lot. All right. So why don't we just finished with this? Who who are some? Players we haven't mentioned or Sunday that we have that you like to target at women named a single Washington running back, Tony. Gibson for sure. Gibson. We we've. We've batted around the idea how many catches he'll get on. F, t this week. I think is upside is seventy receptions I. think he could be very involved part in the passing game for Washington not so much in the Russian game because he's inexperienced there. All right. It's. Three Cohen by the way in half. Pr Is going one hundred and twenty, four, th Ag- I don't buy that at all, but you take them sooner. Kind of by that. Yeah. People do not like Trico wants going the eighth round and full PPO so. It doesn't really surprise me that much that he's going that low and he's a good buy in this format to. All right. He went in the eighth round in the flex draft, which is half Pr. But Feels too early. I would say round ten and half. Pr Good for Tariq on. One hundred, twenty, four, th overall basically like around eleven. So she I take him and I I I agree with where win the flex drift. Eighth. Round. In Up mentioned Zach Moss yet he's too low on on this ADP that we're looking at. He should be up in that range what Marlin Max and Matt Breeders I think. We've forget anybody. How about the chargers? I still prefer Justin Jackson. I one. More guy all throughout that's I. Think my favorite late Guy is Boston Scott. Like Scott I think he's got some decent standalone value because I think the Eagles coaching staff sees a lot of sproles and him. Yeah and obviously, if something were to happen to Mile Sanders than the the summer of not adding a running back with really benefit the you know who? Reminds me of a lot right now is also. Just like you was behind melting Gordon, he's he's small. But he's big. He's apparently a workout warrior just sets ridiculous. and. Squat records and he tested athletically very well he's not too dissimilar from Ecuador and I, think he angle even though he's only like five eight handle a little bit more You got some work in receiving worker handle a little bit more early down work. If something were to happen to standards I think he could be explosive top ten upside on the subject of the chargers running backs. We've we've. He thinks that Justin Jackson is the better one I think Josh Kelly is the better one. Here's a scary thought for those of you that like Austin. What if both of them end up getting five to six touches per week two key it's fine light on her. I. Was Hoping for there will be twenty five to thirty touches the chargers backfield every week every week. Okay I, would expect. A. Few more names out at you tell me how much you like them Damien Harris Reich armstead. I've liked Harris a lot since his days at Alabama wasn't that long ago and he was there and if Sony Michelle can't get healthy. Boom Batta here he comes as a part of the. Patriots run game. Great great laid around. Flyer. And if by week to he's not doing anything, you cut them all stand for Ver- right? Well, because I think there are scenarios with Leonard for net where he is just not on the team by the end of this season I don't know if that's you know a disciplinary he's been disciplined by the team before I. Don't know if it's they trade him mid-season but I don't think Jacksonville. Like they might run into the ground, but I don't think they're really fully committed to him. If their season go sideways early, it would not be surprising if they just decided that for leanings a free agent and he's not there the running back late in the year and they go forward with this this young guy requiem status kind of their main back. Would it be? Aj Dylan Jamal, Williams. I like I like lettuces Tom I do too and I think that the packers do as well. Mala floor probably a lot of Derrick Henry in Aj Dylan just like Ben Gretch. Saw A lot of Derrick Henry in AJ Dylan leading up to the draft, and he could end up being a real pain in the butt for Aaron Jones and Jamaal Williams the same trainer that Trans Ronald Jones. Tranche all Williams two of them were together all season long in Arizona and apparently. Jamal, Williams has been running around and catching passes trying to improve. So he can play slot receiver it's not necessarily the packers asked him to do. It's what he thinks. He needs to do any started sending clips of himself to Aaron, rodgers on instagram and Rogers text and said stop sending me at this way text me directly and Aaron Rodgers finally gave Jamal Williams's phone number. Because he wants to see his progress I have is on the phone number. That's like Michael Jordan. Steve Kerr staffy well, ever Scotty Burrell as the case may be I want to clarify I'm not saying AJ Dylan. It's just when I'm looking at those late round running backs I that need one injury to have a huge success. I'd really like to know that like they're the guy if some if air dry it's hurts Jones gets hurt I. Think this is a committee still and maybe a worse committee. So I'd rather that's why I prefer guys like chase Edmunds who I Worry who I think if if there get cert- there, clearly top fifteen running backs and let's be real if you draft AJ Dylan or Jamal Williams for whatever reason, and it's week three and they haven't done anything and you need to pick somebody up off the waiver wire that's going to be the first name you turn to and cut. So I totally get where you're coming from on that. Maybe you'd rather spend the earlier pick on a better insurance policy running back like chase edmunds. Yeah. I WanNa make final thought about just the the late on running backs. All sit out. The show I think the difference between these guys is related to what they're upside could possibly be and he just made the point really well but like I, just made the case for all right. We'll armstead I think he's basically the guy that would become the got will if length for net for whatever reason wasn't starter, but we can. We can quibble a little bit about what we think they're gonNA be going into the season, but there's so much every year in an NFL season. So much churn at the running back position, and particularly this is going to be turned every position right? We Really WanNA qualify those one percent or two percent outcomes. I think that's how you WANNA targeting late round guys and you'd makes a good point Dylan's extremely good. But he might not get all the work think about that when you're choosing between these guys, do you think this guy could be a legit star? Is something braces what? And my thought was Latavius. Murray. And two games without Alvin. Kamara. Had Thirty or more touches in both games and had thirty one or more PTR fantasy points. Both Games he was insane. That is it for running backs. All right on tomorrow's show Wednesday show. 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 DeAndre Hopkins to Cardinals! David Johnson to Texans! (03/16 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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18:06 min | 8 months ago

DeAndre Hopkins to Cardinals! David Johnson to Texans! (03/16 Fantasy Football Podcast)

"This is fantasy football today from CBS. Sports your email us at fantasy football ed CBS. I DOT COM it's time to dominate your fantasy league of of Chaney reversed of Betty episode. This week a big week for much-needed week we meet them sports to talk about welcome to the show. Quick Emergency podcast. We'll have a big big show for you tomorrow to break. Not Everything for Monday Ryan Tannehill and well basically everything with the titans. Devante Freeman getting released. Kenyan drake getting the transition tag and I was getting all prepare to talk about Hayes. Kenyan drake how much of a workload you're GONNA have to split with David Johnson. At doesn't matter anymore. The Andrei Hopkins to the cardinals. David Johnson to the Texans. The Texans are getting a second and a fourth round pick. The cardinals are getting a fourth round. Pick from Houston. So do I have all the details? It's Hopkins and a fourth for Johnson. A second and a fourth. That's it The money situation is interesting with the cardinals getting away from David. Johnson's money the Texas taking on all of his contract. That's the crazy part of this to me On top of the fact that the Texas gave up the under Hopkins with three years under control but apparently there was some talk about his deal and wanting more money not wanting to pay for it but The money side of this is the interesting part of it. Because they had hopkins under control for three seasons and the fact that he's only twenty. Seven is just mind boggling. Well fantasy is super interesting here. So first question Shawn Watson or Kyle Murray. If you're drafting right now cuyler yeah. Allers MY QB three. We don't have. We don't have a sample of the Andrea of deshaun Watson out. The Hopkins has missed two games in his career. One of them was week. Seventeen right of this past year. I mean the guys always healthy so I can't sit here and say well to Shawn Watson is on this this and that without the so you said collards number three for you Where's Watson I haven't gone through yet but I'll probably be still be tough. I I I would imagine that the second round pick that they get back is going to be receiver top five. Wow but a rookie. Receivers not gonNA come anywhere near the Andre Hopkins. But I mean he runs obviously is going to you know they have to do something to enhance this receiving core. Because you can't lose the Andre Hopkins in not replace him with something so you know it's not just going to be willful or Kenny stills and then back fell Kikuchi in backfill with You know somebody from the xfl campaign also be nice though I think they're you know whatever they do to. You know she'll hopkins role remains to be seen but you know Watson's still an elite talent. Yeah Shawn Watson only thirteenth in the NFL in passing yards this by the way I mean this just happened so I don't have all the stats. I wanted to bring to the show but just to make a point about how. He's not so reliant on passing numbers thirteenth passing yards. I think eighth in passing touchdowns he did miss one game. He sat out seventeen but yet he like like. Jamie said he does run. So That's interesting. We'll have some time to sort of digest. This now. Deandra Hopkins. What do you think value up down at the same down clearly? Same still a top. Three fantasy receiver. Yeah he was already Training in the wrong direction. After what is yours for cash for last year You know now. He's going to a crowded receiving core. So he's still top ten guy but he's not a top five guy from what do you make of that? He eleven point two yards per catch. He showed some statistical decline. I think that the targets with Willfuller versus without willful or were so different with will fuller one hundred and forty-two target pace without Willfuller or with fuller leaving with an injury. One hundred eighty seven target pace. So that's what I thought. The biggest difference was but you know it's one thing to look at Antonio Brown when he's going to thirties having a down year. Statistically John Hopkins is twenty seven years old. So I'm thinking that the yards per catch being down was not really a sign of him going in the wrong direction. It's just probably know Cisco flu because what I'm saying I don't think it's a statistical fluke. It's a sign of when other guys around him talented guys. He's not going to get the same amount targets. I think it's now he's going to a situation where there's talented guys around him. So you know. I mean Fitzgerald. Still GonNA get his targets. It's GONNA go down but it's still going to get targets. Kirk is going to get targets. Isabel is GONNA get targets Kenyan Drake Fan get targets Run so I don't think he's going to have the same amount of same level of production that he has when he's the only show in town and that's when he's been at his best so he had only twenty target throws last year. According to pro football focus of the twenty target throws only eight. Were catchable got seven of them. Three of them were touchdowns. He ranked sixteenth in yards per outrun. He had it was basically two yards per route run. That's pretty good and I would imagine he's going to get used a little bit differently than it was. Last year I feel like last year. He was used more like as a possession type of receiver for Houston. And the Texans wanted to use stills and fuller more as downfield threats and that could change a little bit because the cardinals. I think that they can use kirk. They can probably get away kirk any way they want to but he's better in the short area. It's Gerald clearly a short area guy. Hopkins is to be their number-one perimeter receiver. I think his targets are going to be big. I think he'll see a better depth of target and I think he'll bounce right back in the yards per catch a statistic. It'll catch Donna touchdowns. I have no problem taking him as my number two guy and the Texans are typically a run heavy offense and the cardinals only through twenty more passes than Texans last year but their offense wasn't really that good. If their offense makes improvement they could throw the ball more. They could throw for more yards than the Texans That's certainly possible. And hopefully have this kind of up and coming quarterback and offense boy. This is just so interesting. I'm really having trouble digesting. I've what a shocker. So dumb from Houston standpoint. What do they think? They're getting with? David Johnson I. I will say this David Johnson was a starting running back for the first six weeks of the season and he was more valuable in fantasy. Then be Andre Hopkins was. He was that doesn't matter no but but just just put him like he was the number seven running back and the number five running back. Npr in those six games before he got hurt. And before the Kenyan Drake Trade Hopkins for the season was eighth in non fifth and PBR and he was eleven th per game in non pr six per game NPR. He did not have is typical season. So Johnson I think people have this impression that he was useless last year. Well actually he was a must start running back while he was healthy before the Kenyan Drake Trade. So hopefully south. He's talking about what? What do you think I mentioned it when we talked about free agent destinations and a couple of you? Jamie? I'll take you on the show. You said you wanted to see. Melvin Gordon go to. The chargers are to the Texans rather and I like that has not been a good destination for running backs. They don't throw to their running backs running backs do not score touchdowns there so what do you think about David Johnson? Well I mean you're talking to post Aaron foster days. Yes I'm talking. I'm talking about the bill. O'brien the bill. O'brien days. Yeah I mean look it's If he's healthy he's a he's a very capable Number two running back. I think in this scenario you know kind of what Lamar Miller was but better if they had done since right if he's not then it's you know it's a mess. They still have Lamar Miller on the roster. And we'll see what they're gonNA do there with him coming back from the day of do Johnson obviously margin reagents. I thought he was under contract now. I don't think so for sure. He's walking in Carlos sites. Gone to hide is definitely on. Yeah I thought was but do. John's is still there. And so you wonder what role he's GonNa play. GimMe an over under on catches Duke. Johnson had his career low and catches barely but he had forty one forty four catches previous. You're forty seven catches but duke. Being there I mean forty four catches. That's not good for David Johnson. So gimme an over under like. I'll get the whole offense changes does it. Well I mean if Hopkins is gone. Yeah okay so forty catches sixteen games. Okay data for two catches. It's less than three catches per game question if he plays only twelve games. You're probably not going to get to forty catches so I'll take the under because don't think he can stay healthy. Which rather have David Johnson or Todd Gurley really girly David Johnson or Philip Lindsay Lindsay Lindsay. For sure. Linzie the top. Fifteen after me David Johnson. Npr or Mark Ingram anger. Ingram are. Maybe I'll maybe we'll get David Johnson carry on Johnson. I might. I'll take a healthy David done if he's if he's reality training camp and I'm assuming that the lines are going to add something running back. I think they've had it with carry on so that might be where David Johnson That's where we kind of slotted. Let's do the Andrei Hopkins the Andrea Hopkins Travis Kelsey Hopkins. We just did a draft last Thursday. Three Wide Receiver League Hopkins went eighth overall. He was the third receiver off the board. Michael Thomas was the second overall. Pick Davante Adams Seventh Hopkins eighth then. Julio Jones was tenth and Kelsey was eleven th would you rather have hopkins or Julio lobbyists so Dave? What'd you say? You're you're not moving hopkins. Nope third of the fact that Hooper's gone for sure I'll take leave of her Okay and so then David you just have Thomas ahead of him. You have hopkins ahead of Davante Adams. I'm GONNA move Davante Adams ahead of him in the event that the packers do not add quality pass catcher. But I'm assuming that they will. So that's why Adams's behind and Nick. Chubb Andre Hopkins in the fact that Kareem Hunt Is. There doesn't help nick. Brosse Nubrik gave him the The the second round tender front So I'm taking Hopkins NPR. I'll take hopkins. Npr Job in ninety two. Okay again so much news with books like the browns closing in on a deal with Austin Hooper so much news to get to a big show tomorrow to kind of sum it all up because it doesn't make sense the reacted things now when we don't know the complete picture but this had to be reacted to other players involved in this in this deal well not involved in the actual trade but the fantasy values affected by those on the Texans and the cardinals. Obviously Kenyan drake the big winner here but yeah who including drake who who are the biggest winners and losers? Hello Mary they winner Kenyan. Drake big winner. David Johnson. Big Loser now is a big winner was he lives right. I was no. He's he's a winner. Obviously getting off the cardinals but he's not. He's not David David Johnson of old. No but I mean at least this gives them an opportunity to be a starter The case be made that willful. Or or Kenny stills winners yeah absolutely losers are Hopkins Watson that's a loser just those two I think no. Christopher shirk is a kirk loses so Larry Fitzgerald Hall of Fame Loser. So would you take right now will fuller or David Johnson Johnson? Because I just don't want for too injury prone guys essentially Johnson's right in training camp. It's easily Johnson. So the thing is what do you make of that running back history with the Texans I? I'll try to get the exact stats with O'Brien. Yeah with O'Brien. Because he can't include what Kubiak does Kubiak genius. Especially if you know especially if if if do Johnson still there they just don't throw it running backs and again like they get to the red zone and they don't have. I don't think they've had Shawn Watson. Led the team in rushing touchdowns last year. Lamar Miller never been a big rushing touchdown guy. What the Texans so I. I just don't like the history of Texans running backs under bill. O'brien and then we'll fuller. We'll fours got a chance to really show what he's capable of here. This is going to have to I think you know again. It's Bill O'Brien's offense with one of the best receivers in the NFL as well. So now that receivers gone yeah. So how does that change things you know? He's talked about. He talked about this last year by having to throw the ball to his running back more. Which is why he went on and got the Johnson. You wanted to have that more part of office now. It didn't work out So he also was getting a guy that you know has a one thousand yard receiving ability as a backup So hopefully he uses him in the right way. You know. It's it's all a matter of David Johnson. Being back to the guy that he was if that's anything close to his two thousand sixteen season. It'd be a shame if Bill O'Brien didn't throw him the ball ma. But it's kind of why he's in the rains that we're talking about you know if if we knew he right if we knew that the Texans were going to build the offense around him to a certain extent then he'd be a top ten guy but he's more of a top twenty four. May I ask a question this? If this is took place a year ago David Johnson was coming off of his thirteen hundred yard. I've forgotten made such sense. He added maybe seven or eight. Where would you rank them? You put them easily. In the top two rounds would he be at tops around I last year and I know for sure? So you're hoping that he can get back to that point and I don't know if he's terribly far from that point he didn't fit into what Arizona was doing well. The question becomes was he hurt at the end of the season when they made the trade to get drake and couldn't get back on the field or was it just. Drake was better. I think if drake was better and the moves today suggests that and David Johnson's healthy then. Hopefully the Texans using the right way but you know. I think that's the question that will have to find out. Do you like or hate. The fact that Carlos had had sixteen carries inside the opponent's ten last year. What do you have inside the five because that sounds like a solid number? I got a double check but I I can tell you that inside. The ten sixteen carries five touchdowns thirty two red zone carries. Let's put it. Let's give me anytime if you get. Carlos Hides Production. Forget about the past. Catch just the rushing numbers from crawls high and drafting David Johnson. Let's say around five. You disappointed right. He had a thousand seventy yards and six touchdowns. It's not great being honest. He doesn't catch the ball. So that's the difference and sixteen if you're carries no lot if you're getting forty five catches on top of those numbers. Another around five yards. Then Duke Johnson going to have to go away. I don't think they're making this move with the intention of let's featured Duke Johnson more they're going to have to feature them less. That's all I'm saying like David Johnson's GonNa catch by the way his red zone his inside the ten inside the five yard production or carries rather Carlos. I'd not very good about half of the numbers of what you'd see from the League is there. Lamar Miller had thirteen rushing touchdowns in three seasons on seven hundred and sixteen carries thirteen touchdowns on seven hundred sixteen carries to Shawn Watson Twelve touchdowns. One hundred eighty one carries in his last two seasons. So I don't know if it's just weird or that's just the way it works in Houston but they don't catch passes. They don't score rushing touchdowns and if you go make a trade. Maybe that changes things. And you don't have to Shawn Watson. Maybe that changes or philosophy and they're gonNA COMMIT TODAY. Johnson right. It would have to be a fundamental shift. Yeah that changes it and they are changing play. Callers right yeah. O'brien not gonNA call him anymore. It's I've got the number for young Carlos I'd carries inside the five eight higher notes. Eight ten where are you looking? I'm looking at his game log from twenty nineteen pro football reference. Has IT at eight? But I've I have found this page to be a little bit unreliable so with that. We're going to leave you until the Texans. I go sign Antonio Brown because if you're going your logo you'll he's gotta get always category off the list. I gotta be cleared or whatever you get Josh Gordon to cleared by the Camino new. Cba was signed. That's great we're GONNA. We're already getting ready for football. I can't wait for sports. Be Back Tomorrow. Show we'll talk to you on Tuesday. Thanks for listening everybody.

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Fading Fournette, Backing Back-Ups, and More Daily Decisions | The Dantasy Football Podcast

The NFL Show

31:28 min | 1 year ago

Fading Fournette, Backing Back-Ups, and More Daily Decisions | The Dantasy Football Podcast

"Games coming up this Sunday and if you're having friends over to come watch some football and they're planning to make some guacamole just say hey. Google remind me to buy Avocados at the supermarket the Google assistant is ready to help you get more done with just your voiced in the car at home and everywhere you take your phone they're great let's start right off the bat go bigger go home expensive players we think are worth the money decay who's worth the money this week I'm betting on Lamar Jackson Bounce always by my co host and my co Danny the hero we need the analyst we deserve the Dark Knight Himself Danny Kelly how're you doing back game for the Ravens he's gone up against the bengals defense he is sixty nine hundred so on the more expensive side clearly but I think he's due for a big game he struggled a bit is no that the London game this week starts at Sunday at nine thirty A. M. Eastern yeah so did you know that that's fourteen hours of football which is longer than entirely it gave up twenty five point four points Kyle last week at home including ten rushes ninety three yards and a touchdown on the ground so with a big game against you know with remember to set your lineup Saturday night game is very early unless you're the kind of person who's checking your fantasy lineup at before nine thirty am eastern which some people are but yet so you're lineups but it is Thursday afternoon right now not Sunday and we're going to run through a bunch of players like daily fantasy matchups this week we're going to break welcome to the dentist the football podcast on the ringer. NFL show on the Ringer podcast network. My name is Danny Hyphen. I'm joined as one day he has a really good rushing floor he threw picks he threw three picks last week and still scored eleven points because he ran for seventy yards on the ground so uses early on in the season but going up against bad defense this week so I think he could be worth the money the other thing that I really just love about Jackson is on any has a passer especially over the last two weeks tussle ill-advised picks last week can just hasn't looked as good against good defenses as he did against bad defense posting a big game against them I think that Lamar Jackson who is still I think he's a little more refined right now and and a further along in his career I think he could have a big day the Bengals are also just bang like may then cordy Glenn is still the concussion and their Andre Smith is one of their other main tackles out so they're just devastated and they used to have a similarly Tough Injury List Dat rushing floor also gives them an incredible ceiling if he does end up throwing three touchdowns this week so all in all I like him the Bengals have given up tenth most fantasy points of quarterbacks the fans a personal thing I should probably talk if you're just a fan of you getting up at six thirty well it's the panthers in the bucks so I don't think it applies to too many people important important note though a nice kind of a double trouble here because it's Alvin Kamara so you're going to get great value and he's projected to be extremely low owned he's had some ups and downs this year but I think this is a year Deka I'm doing extraordinary are you a man extrordinary wow Kruger you extrordinary order I think what what's better than at defensive end so there's banged up as anybody so the Ravens rushing his games can bet craig who's worth the money this week Alvin Kamara down draftkings lineup at the end but first we're going to run through some categories will jog jog system categories I remember but I don't know five days ago Christian McCaffrey cremated the Jaguars all let's let's flip this the other way these are too rich for my blood guys that are really pricey and not worth this week decay who's not worth the money this week so I it's okay I'm always happy to see headship decays so at the takes me feel good on doing great it's Thursday excited for football I'm excited for football did the rings trilogy combined do you get up to watch the London game though I mean actually I guess I should ask if I'm working on for that game really help them not if you're not if you're just so I'm out on the homes this week if you listen to the most recent ringer NFL show Kevin Clark on his take shop takes that The chiefs should rest Patrick mahomes points now only but obviously that's still pretty solid for a quarterback but you know you're looking for a huge game and I don't know if I can really trust that this week against Houston Yourself Jinx Myself Kamara safe bet Adam Levitin has extremely low on his week six expected draft kings ownership rankings so this is he's he's probably the best quarterback in the NFL and he's amazing everything the I I love the guy but I'm just GonNa wait until his ankle is fully backed up and are you talking about their defense but I'm their offense for one Second AG Greens out Receiver John Ross's Out third-string Alex Ericsson's out they lost their first round left tackle in era getting good about saying Camaro come on we conquered Morioka we this is the next Mario Kamera is playing at Jacksonville this week and I don't know if you go where it was before before I kinda bet the House on him because you if you're spending that much money on your quarterback your your banking that he's going to have a massive day so for me I'm just not GonNa Forgave Oh oh who's the backup Matt Moore Yes yes it is thank you thank you what a journey and no Sammy Watkins so if he plays I'm in it's sort of it's sort of a mix of Bilo contrarian because I bet you a lot of people will probably be Kinda scared Williams but I also think that could be bad for Patrick mahomes because I think that Texan's front is much better than Jr Watkin have easier time penetrating pitch very good I know this goes against everything I've stood for my tire life but Leonard Fournette this week what I'm with you I think for me it's mostly I just don't want to spend the most money you know of any of my players are on Mahomes more more than I think he more than I think he's like ticking away from Patrick Mahomes this week just kind of figuring out where he is with with regards to his ankle I mean clearly I love the Guy He's all World Rico but they'll have the ball more going on here I think they'll they'll do they'll do more with their drives than they did last week I'll put it that way so bullion I don't really know I don't think raising questions I'm regular listener question of the week sorry crank put you on the spot and like hell and Camara seems like a safe bet and he's eight thousand dollars Kamera dammit G I'm not gonNA take that chance this week saving walk INS likely still out it's a little bit unclear on what Tyreek Hill is going to be doing last two games mahomes had only eighteen eighty nine dump author Patrick Mahomes Dame's this week and Williams had fifty seven percent of snaps in I came back so I like Williams but I also see how mahomes could not have some huge data had the ball for twenty two minutes last week it was twenty two minutes and forty five seconds that's the six lowest time of possession since Andy Reid became that she's coach in two thousand thirteen so that she the only had nine carries for twenty three yards last week and they also like three catches for fifteen yards but the point was this is homes tyreek Hill Damian Williams all those guys the chiefs offense the only place the I mean the colts beat the because they kept their offense off the field. I don't think the Texans are GONNA be able to do that so I think the chiefs love the ball more often and I do think that's going to be good for and credit you had Tari Killer Bilo the week I do we'll get to that I was thinking we could do it now the chiefs all right that's fine the only reason why tyreek hill is next now players are too much like homes not too little just right goldilocks so little rain sweet spot are this is a week where he can get back on track the jags up the most points to running backs this season I can't believe you said McAfee created the Jaguars benefited Gallup a lot he's a deep threat he's dangerous kind of in the underneath on slants and things like that he's just he's really broken out he's a really good player off Fayoum exactly not really sure exactly what he's going to be able to do and everything like that so yeah that makes less you could also be scared off by as much as the colts kind of Sh- well culturally shut down the chiefs offense but they show Craig loves the Goldilocks so my goldilocks guy this week is Michael Gallup receiver for the cowboys please me he's he's hedging hedging he he's the fifth most expensive running back this week you know what people this company think of hedging that's he's going up against new it was a sweet spot player for you this week there's nothing that you in Craig love more than I think this the Goldilocks Category now my favorite ones deceiving yards orlands listen to what New Orleans has done against this year they faced tug early sixty three yards Chris Carson fifty two yards in Ezekiel Elliot thirty five yards so you have no idea how he got there man but yeah I just think this week he's not he should not be the fifth most expensive running back I wholeheartedly concur he is fifty six hundred which just feels really kind of actually a little bit low to me going up against the jets jets defenses terrible I would assume that Dak is gonNA come chiefs offense of line especially because they're left guard had an injury action on the same plane homes are injured his ankle the left guard the chiefs did as well so I think that there's going to be a good amount not feeling forget this week they could be down early passing game could save him but from a rushing standpoint unless he has another one of those games where he rushes for negative eight yards for the first three quarters it's GonNa be a fun match up seeing him go against Marshon Lattimore if that's the case overall I just really excited about this matchup and I I like charcoal I love you so I pick that defense apart Gallup is averaging he's only played in three games this season he's averaging one hundred thirteen yards per game which is in the NFL twenty two points for game fantasy lies he's just really really good for them really outstanding defensive tend to tilt their coverages towards Mario Cooper Cooper's clear number one and I think that's really good chart for his own part has what I've seen really really good body control he's really good in the air he's he attacks the football on the Air Justin Gallup he also is averaging twenty two point three points per game he had thirty nine last week eight the week before seventeen point six and then eighteen point five in the previous two weeks my bilo the week is because last year he was the literal number one wide receiver in fantasy football so I really am fourteen points ended analysis. He's I believe the seventh most expensive this week can add regress badly or anything like that this week I agree with you there you you going with chiefs this week you want to try to get a discount if you can craig who's too rich for your blood this week twenty platelets I have an honorable mention this categories well another second year breakout player. Dj Shark the Jaguars going up against New Orleans he's fifty five hundred so he's one hundred you're gonNA save so much money so I think the ideal situation probably be to trade him next year all right well there's another place that has a giant logjam of good players which is he and men's you have a really good sort of back shoulder connection they've really connected on a few those he's got elite Dvd ran like a four three at the combine so I think charges yeah everything I I wrote about this week at the Ring Dot Com and that kind of I think that maybe biases me a little bit towards towards check this week we would all love to spend more time the seventy order I was gonNA literally about to bring up quietly sell high because he's just broken one run that just he's this year's Derrick Henry anyone who has Leonard Rickie both the most impressive thing impress you the most his accuracy is which I think you could I mean I don't know how you're GonNa like make a hierarchy of the most whether you're talking like a deep deep pass down sideline which is why those back shoulder throws been working so well or just on a little like bootleg he hit shark a little help hands-free just say hey google to get started touchdown last week I don't think he technically started because Matt Brita took the opening play the game open for a touchdown and he just put the jets but Coleman also looked really good as Marlowe stanfield would say one of them good problems to too many quarterbacks yeah right and then there's the forty niners who have too many good running backs my sweet spot right now Tevin Coleman this week for keeping them off the field you know I'm just GonNa jump Damien Williams thing now because I also like Damian Williams this week with all the chiefs right now but I like Damian blame says a Bilo this week because early trade him you know next year or whatever they'd have to eat some dead money but I mean having having Menchu on a rookie deal six round rookie deal in the long run so he's a little bit all over the place but I think he is there clear-cut number one I got tons of confidence in Minzhu Menchu has just been really and I think he could he has a potential to go off this week so I like him at fifty six hundred it's absolutely beautiful nothing I've I've burst explosiveness suddenly you're not the same player and Coleman against the Browns on Monday night football looked really good I mean he was making people miss like he it was really it's really breaking out. I don't think he's necessarily GONNA continue to score touchdowns every single week but I liked this matchup the saints have given up a lot of points receivers this year thinking about Gartner Men's shoe you're very lucky he's he was legitimately impressive I gotta say I was not expecting be as impressed I was expecting to be like yeah he looks pretty good like right on the outside shoulder so he could turn around and get upfield like that kind of accuracy I just I think is really really cool to see so I think that that's a repeatable trade that I think could really carry them heat one of the many chiefs running backs so this is Damien Williams not derail Williams also not Shawn McCoy or Darwin Thompson I've trouble keeping track of them all but really the issue was he'll Damien citing to see him back and I mean when he was with the Falcons in two thousand sixteen and Carl Shanahan who's now the forty niners head coach was the offensive coordinator for Atlanta he was one of the top twenty the chance to be the starter there for long term is there an issuance fulls comes back well he's under contract for three years and he has a Shitload of guaranteed money so that's an issue but they could potentially important things for a quarterback the accuracy he's gotta be up there as like one of the top ones he was just putting the ball in the exact location that needed to be on so many passes for net knows that he just has goes through most of the fantasy day with about three points you can't walk out and you can check after the game I go you one hundred twenty five and seen points I missed some time with an ankle injury hidden week one but ankle injuries are really scary when you have a starting running back because even if they come back it's like you know the holes close so quickly in the NFL make you miss is so hard that you lose just take ten fifteen percent off the top of your your lateral movement or your thing for my love but love for Michael Gallup the cowboys but Michael Gallup being on the cowboys is still forever one of my favorite and one hundred thirteenth my lucky number so there you go there's my expert analysis forty four hundred dollars on draftkings doesn't make any sense he's the he's the starting running back with this yeah he'd sixteen Russia's for ninety seven yards going forward and the four running time they run the most in all fifty seven percent of the time there's only two other teams above fifty percent rushing at all so running backs fantasy football coleman was and he has a bigger role in this team it seems like as much as it seems like he's a bit piece here's a bigger role in this team than he did back in the day I think he's only going to get more of workload I think he's as good a bet to do that as any of the guys in the top like list on draft kings and might as well get the cheapest one I think he's the sixth or seventh most expensive running back this week does this week Cincinnati is the second most finished points to running backs this year and I think this is GonNa be a lot like that Miami game the Ravens played where Ingram one hundred yards and two touchdowns like the first half and Gus Edwards hasn't really been chipping in to his workload at all he said five carries a game in the last four weeks and it's GonNa be a blow out so I think marking rooms and if they and ultimately coaches are coaches are protective risk averse people we're seeing less risk aversion to my lineup so D K we don't want to do that so who is your bargain but of the week this week I'm rolling with Jamison crowder the jets he's only four grand this week on do is try as hard as hell to not my real answer for this and this is true cream hunts I carry was a fumble real my real answer to this because if they fumble again it's been extremely grim for the last few weeks that's not a purply because even the word grim like they were openly debating whether Sam Darnold who could die if played in his era I'm pretty sure he was which means that Jeff Wilson isn't going to be the touchdown volker anymore for either Breda or Wilson thing was because they was because Greg you're arguing that play that coaches should play their best players we've seen time and time again that that's like expecting coaches to play their best players is complete is it now real quick which team would you guys want to coach takeover tomorrow any team yeah the Browns browns. I don't want to touch that Yeah Oh my God I we'll think Craig Ravens fan it's sweet spot Greg Yeah Mark Ingram who was playing the Bengal I am safe for his press beautiful bargain bin of the week you fill out your Austrian you didn't save enough money and now you're rolling through like Oh my God am I gonNa have to put Reichel armstead football game should play as an open question at the very least their messaging on the subject has been poor yeah so week one last time these two guys played on the same field together and by the way darnold is back this week that's been announced whatever so that's good news crowder worth down but that's because now it's kind of okay to go for the fourth down there still risk aversion other areas the risk of their avoiding is not playing worse it's getting criticized like the remains deep throughout a touchdown threat necessarily but he could rack up the targets again in this game and I could definitely see that happening I think you know he he and lady on bell or both doing their bit yes like talent the removing talent from the game so they will get criticized if it happens again yeah we'll Jeff Wilson scored so he's fine I guess Craig Craig some kid came at neat like took a three to start the game ill-advised three missed it you get pulled I don't think that's the way I agree but if someone fumbles and you pull them no one questions the coach yeah I mean it's just not going to happen like look at Aaron Johns in Green Bay for the last year and a half has been like why don't you just play him or you know it's just so fries you and like the potential games here I think the Dallas is going to be ahead probably for most of the game which means that they're going to have to rely on darnold pass ball around that's not true I mean it could be a real school coaching it's Exa- cosign it's say Combo of like part punishment part eh he's fallen completely off the fantasy map since darnold spin out the jets offense has been I mean about as atrocious as you can possibly be in the NFL it's been in week one had seventeen targets fourteen catches for ninety nine yards now it's important to know that this is for PBR like he he's not necessarily a great standard at the goal line is the coach's fault for not pulling them so it's as their own ass and it's the goal until the probably score anyway let's my real always hated that tactic you know there was like high school basketball coaches where if had eight rushes for sixty eight yards last week and honestly even if David Johnson does play he's a back injury and by just reading the reports about it seems like they would pain so that's kind of inside but yet don't don't land coaches to play the best players maybe the dynasty football podcast coach team this real we have with defenders hand that became a pick I don't remember the specifics but essentially they combined to turn it over three times so that's why they weren't getting the ball at the goal line because if there's anything you cannot do go on back the ball over one game punt why does fumbling in a game make you Poulson but it doesn't mean they're more likely to fumble again in that game one this one's pretty simply chase Edmunds is pretty talented player and David David Johnson obviously is really talented versatility is good at a lot of little things chaser you have to earn it like like there's a there's a disciplinary aspect to it for sure I don't know I just wouldn't you want your best player on the field if you think you all Matt

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07/30: Everyone is a Bust! Plus Auction Talk and Big News (Fantasy Football Podcast)

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07/30: Everyone is a Bust! Plus Auction Talk and Big News (Fantasy Football Podcast)

"This is fantasy football today from C._B._S.. Sports snail us at Fantasy Football Ed C._B._S.. I DOT COM. It is time to dominate your fantasy league or some combination of Cheney today on the show. So what's the most fun way to do fantasy draft of course it's an auction and so we're GonNa talk about yesterday's often. Welcome to fantasy football today also a little bit less fun of a topic topic. I'm going to tell you why each of the top fifteen picks and fantasy could be bust this year it is almost August manage July thirtieth welcome to Tuesday's show of fantasy fantasy football today Adam Mazer with Jamey Eisenberg and Jamie. We get a nice little surprise today. Apparently the heat is on. He goes for all of us. Yes it's great. We're very excited. Yes we were not expecting heath. He has graced us with his presence. We are very appreciative of that. I was yelling at Heath as he walked in the building. Get in here. Well thank you for coming hot heath good hi. I'm I'm really happy to be here. I came in a little bit sad because I thought I didn't get to talk to you today for the first day and like seventeen months but I do so I'm happy yeah. I was almost going to call you last night and I said you know what I don't think he wants to hear from me so so this is this'll suffice. How did the auction go yesterday? Actually I really like both of your teams. I liked a lot of the teams will Brinson took a really interesting approach to the auction. He spent seventy seventy eight no sixty eight percent of his budget. Excuse me onto players N._p._R.. League so we're GONNA talk about that but from your perspective how did the auction go really weird weird really really weird auction <hes> partially because of what will did it. It seemed like there were like two copies of every wide receiver in this auction because every team I looked had five wide receivers that were awesome. Now I only with three but the best part of my team <hes> it was it was really weird. Cuyler Murray was like the second most expensive quarterback it. It was really weird. Kylo Murray was the second expect that okay that's why auctions are fun and that's why they're tough to talk about because they're all so so different but we will answer some auction questions and kind of go over some strategies and see how the teams <hes> shaped up later on in the show guys out. What is the most important news item from yesterday or early this morning? I think it's offered more signing with the cowboys. <hes> you know following up with Jerry Jones said about not wanting or needing a a running back to be a super bowl team or or needing a leading rusher to Windsor will have rephrased it. <hes> Morris was one of the guys who helped replace Zeke when he was suspended a couple all seasons ago or six games and so the thought would be as that. They're making their plans in case this is going to linger bringing in somebody who knows their offense knows their you know personnel and they're comfortable with. I don't think this is an indication. That Zeke is going to hold out during the season but it's just you know the cowboys making plans and probably not being one hundred percent comfortable with the guys who are behind Zeke. The thought right now is dairy. Jackson is competing with Mike Weber to be the running downs guy and then Tony Pollard will kind of carve out this role of the past catcher but it's going to be messy. I think if Elliott out for an extended period time he is that also in your mind the most important news item I guess I would say the if if it's not a close second would be Damian Williams missing a second day day with a hamstring injury is he is one of the guys that we had the biggest concern about having never seen him with any sort of workload in the past and we were hoping he in the chiefs gave every indication this is our our feature back and then a week into camp and he's got a hamstring issue now. He's missed two days of practice in a row of this gets to a week. I start downgrading Damien William just when I go oh back so let me go back to the cowboys running back situation here. How are you drafting them right now? Are you drafting Zeke still where you had them and and then are you drafting Alfred Morris Different running back that you drive like who would you handcuff with Zeke. How would you approach it? I wouldn't handcuff him now. You know I think when we get to preseason action first off August sixth day we've been working off of you know if he doesn't show up by August sixth and we know he's going to drag this out because if he doesn't show up by that day he loses the year free free agency that he would be uses the the time that he would become afraid afraid that the wrong way he has to report by August six to earn his year service to become a free agent or for when his contract is over <hes> if he's if he's back by that day he's you know top four overall pick however you WANNA put him in in those first four guys regardless of format but if it get past we get past August six then it's going to be okay what happens in the preseason you know who's the guy that's GonNa get the touches there is Jackson accent isn't Morris as Pollard as a Weber and then I think you just have to act accordingly all right. Here's my nomination for the most important news item of yesterday or early this morning Jordan Howard getting getting a lot of first team reps it shouldn't become as a huge surprise but going back over the last couple of seasons with Doug Peterson and with the Philadelphia Eagles. Did they feature for any running backs. It's easy to look at the stats and say no. They didn't know no running backs had more than one hundred seventy three carries in any season in the last three seasons for the Philadelphia Eagles but Lou gehrig blunt was getting about fifteen carries per game before the J. J. E. Trade in most games. It wasn't entirely consistent J._J.. Then came in and I think six of his last eight games including the postseason he had you know about fourteen to eighteen cares actually four of his last six games and then last year Jay Week one fifteen carries week to has seven carries but gets hurt in the game since week three week four he gets fifteen gene carries then week five eight carries and that was his last game of the season so I think you look at the Garrett Blunt you'll get J._J.. Over the last two seasons forget about Josh Adams who did have two consecutive twenty carry games. I think it's reasonable to think that the lead running back for Philadelphia could get fifteen ish carries a game and if Jordan Howard is getting that should he not not be such an afterthought on draft day guys. What do you think Jordan Howard? I'm looking at the consensus rankings and he's the number forty two running back behind the Shawn McCoy Royce Freeman Kaylynn Balaj Ronald Oh Jones the problem is at least for me and I think when Ben was on Friday. He talked about his strategy of taking running backs not in that dead zone but later in the draft because if something happens they could they have that upside of being you'd think Balaj Jones Freeman those guys don't Deonte Foreman Justin Jackson. Those is all have kind of like a feature workload upside. I think this fifteen touches a game. You're talking about for Jordan. Howard is is upside like if everything goes right he might be able to be there Gary Plummer J._J.? Yeah but then there's nothing with that though right I mean that's a lot I expect they didn't have mile standards their loss two years either yeah yeah right but they've had guys that they seem to like maybe long on par with miles enters. You know I mean you know they like Corey Clement. They like Wendell small. Would you know they've have used those guys in different capacities. I've moved Howard ahead of Sanders. You know it it just it's hard to justify drafting sanders ahead of him given what we know that he's missed time with a hamstring problem that he's not going to be a three down guy because they brought sprawls back and so who's the most likely guy to lead them in scoring scoring the most touchdowns probably Howard Ward who has the best chance to lead them in rushing arts. It's probably Howard and the receiving numbers are going to get chopped up to a point where it just really doesn't matter now that may lead you to say why hi draft any of the Eagles running backs which I'm sure as you're approaching heath. I think you said right and that's certainly a way to go but <hes> once you get past I think the first thirty plus running backs you know if you WANNA show that list again of of the guys that we were just referencing <hes> it's kind of like okay who can get me. Maybe a thousand yards rushing. I don't know if Howard has that type of upside aside but maybe eight hundred six eight hundred and eight. It's a great offense. It could be one of the best offenses and football yeah I mean we. I don't think any of US think Jordan Howard's all that good but he was really good but I agree with you while the top ten running back or top twelve and non P._r.. To strike this this is this is where metrics and spark and all those things and production sort of have to you know not necessarily look at the two. He's not a very talented the player but he ends up with talented production. He was a top ten back with what two hundred ninety touches yeah is a volume guy I mean he's clearly Julia Volume Day. I just don't like the volumes available right but but again going from where he wasn't Chicago to what he could be now. In Philadelphia based on the cat we were taking the second round in Chicago and non purely that was two years <hes> even last year you know his he was a third round. Pick or you know so. You're talking about a guy that you're getting round six around seven or eight depending on format. It's it's not a bad situation you know and and Dave has talked about this quite a bit you know. Give them credit that if you if you just look at it from WHO can get you off to a hot start it could be somebody like Howard because we don't know at what point they make the switch to Mao Sanders to give him not necessarily the quote unquote starting job but a fifty fifty timeshare yeah and so you know Howard is not a bad guy to give you some good Games early in the season again again. Great Offensive Line Right now went to southeast so great quarterback very good weapons good defense. I mean they're one of the better teams in the N._F._C.. They're one of the odds on favorites to win the Super Bowl and and they start with Washington at home and then at Atlanta and maybe you go zero rb Jordan Howard Kinda guy you could be looking at all right so <hes> some things to announce yes. I think we just stopped there. One Second Dave said this a lot too. I think we just need clarify. This isn't the first running back you want to take if you go with your yeah it's it's it's part of a group of guys that you take your urban. Yeah okay so if you Jamie mentioned and I mentioned that graphic of the running backs that I would that we were looking at well you can see the this show youtube dot com slash fantasy football today. That's really the best way to go. You don't want to search for anything on Youtube. Just go directly to that U._R._l.. YouTube dot com slash fantasy football today and I don't know if we're GONNA have the whole show up yet that I think is coming eventually but at least clips should be up youtube dot com slash fantasy football today. We have responser today. It is fantastic. I absolutely love Van. Do I truly truly do go to fan dot com slash F F T get a five dollar bonus on your first deposit. If you want to gamble symbol little bit put some wagers down go sportsline sportsline is going to give you some good gambling tips and some fantasy tips as well sportsline dot com. It's ten dollars a month or ninety nine a month with but your first month you can get it for just one dollar. If you go to sportsline dot com and use the Promo Code Huddle and if you were a real fantasy football player you listen to this show you love fantasy hennessy football. You want to be playing on the best website that is C._B._S.. No they don't pay me to say that. I really do think the C._B._S.. Website is the best and if you go to C._B._S.. Sports DOT COM com slash F F T you can sign up and you can let them know that you got there via the podcast C._B._S.. Sports Dot com slash F F T great for Dynasty Leagues you can trade picks up to three three years in advance. The commissioner tools are better. The APP is better. You'RE GONNA love it C._B._S.. Sports DOT COM slash F F T right general question for you guys. Do you find it easier when you're researching players to to find negatives rather than positives no no both I guess what you know what I think it is like with the with the higher end guys at since they're already so high. I think it's easier for me to find negatives and for the later round picks the mid to late round picks then I'm like oh well. Actually you know the standards are lower obviously so I find some more positives but when I'm looking at you know all these all these top picks I can make the bus case for just about all of them. The hardest one is probably Ezekiel Elliott and now all I have to do is say well. He might be holding out so let's go through. Here's our top fifteen unpicks C._B._S.. Sports A._D._p.. Excluding Melvin Gordon who's GonNa keep falling and excluding Patrick Mahomes we will never ever take with a top fifteen picks so I'm going to give you a reason then why each player is a bust and you just tell me if you buy it at all or if you know if I'm stupid and by the way I don't think all of them are busts obviously but heath. This is your chance to call me stupid so so let's start with Saquon Barkley in his last four games without Odell Beckham yeah he had some good Games but he also had two games with forty three or fewer rushing yards yards in two out of four games and he was also on pace for just sixty eight catches without Beckham which would have been seventh most amongst running backs and by the way he's very reliant on the big league play he had the second most carries of two or fewer yards behind Ezekiel Elliott to fewer than Zeke with forty three zero carry so anyway saquon Barkley not quite as good without Beckham Beckham you could say bus potential well and to your point of being reliant on the big play he had six carries last year of fifty yards or more. Nobody else in the N._F._l.. Had more within three I would not expect him to have six again. This year is rushing average is probably going to come down just a little bit. He might fall the way number two. You know it's funny because one of those games without back them he did something according to next Gen stats. That's never been done before since they've been tracking this number <hes> against Washington and this is something. I think a lot of people look out Beckham is that you know he's going to face a lot of stack line scrimmages. He had the most yards against eight plus defenders in the box since they've been doing this twenty sixteen yet but but he is GonNa get a lot aww defenders in the box right but what I'm saying is like he's leasing he had it's just one game <hes> but in that game against Washington person to make a bus case for he's so good at he so I think the one thing would be as if his touchdown stay the same where they were a year ago. Yeah and the receptions come down. I wrote yesterday about <hes> running backs. Who could regress progress one direction or the other? I really don't think it's very likely that the touchdown say the same agreed but he had the same number of carries inside the five and inside the ten last cheers had the two previous years oddly enough he only scored two touchdowns inside the five last year instead of five or seven the two years before so you only I don't have any concern with Ezekiel Elliott until August seven and I guess the only thing would be if they get multiple injuries on the offensive line. Now you could say that about obviously any running back and I don't think he's so relying on the offensive line to make him a great player but when you run behind arguably the best line in football it certainly helps them we saw last year. You know maybe part of the reason why those yards situations weren't as good was because Frederick wasn't in there Yep. That's exactly what I was going to say. It's Travis. Frederick has centreback Okay Alvin Kamara. Why could he be a bus while you have the second most rushing touchdowns in the N._F._l.? With the sixteenth most carries so that's a pretty good rate he averaged fourteen carries per game without Mark Ingram twelve and a half carries as per game with Mark Ingram and and just based on the Games he played with Ingram. I think it was eleven games total he wasn't deserving of. Let's say the number one overall pick if you're considering him there so oh camera. That's his bus potential. I suppose I think he's GonNa be really interesting if they end up signing theoretic because that's one of the places that riddick visited where would he cut into not going to be rushing downs and it'd be receiving downs you know and so excuse me I think you you know you may be a little bit nervous about that. They worked out another running back to. I forget who it was. I saw it yesterday. I think it was <hes> wasn't it. Maybe you're right. Maybe it was Moore's <hes> but <hes> if riddick does end up going to New Orleans I'd be a little bit cautious about Kamera as the number one pick N._p._R.. I would not downgrade him. The top four picks even if accuser all right. Let's go to our next one Christian McCaffrey other than the terrific email we got from Cooper dug a few weeks ago <hes> <hes> explaining that his production was much better before cam like really seriously got hurt by T.. J. Watt he could have a snaps reduced. We heard yesterday no other panthers running back could more than twenty four carries last season so it's just the amount of snaps you play the amount of touches he got really could come down for Christian McCaffrey and you know if Cam Newton is throwing the ball downfield a little bit more. Maybe it hurts. His production can't and I've got. I think the fact that both D._J.. More an Curtis Samuel could have a breakout this season and we like both of them that could maybe only McCaffrey leads the team with twenty percent of the targets instead of twenty five percent of the targets. I we do have the production not being quite ah good when Newton was healthy and I and my projections even now have in projected kind of an a tier below those first three running backs so if there are some guys like Kerryon very on Johnson like Delvin Cook like Leonard Fournette that really make the leap this year McCaffrey might be the guy they make the leap over am I but it's you know I still think you know while while we hear you may not have as many carries. It's hard to expect them to go away from him. And maybe you know we we see a little bit better rushing <unk> production not that five yards precarious is obviously something that can improve dramatically but <hes> I think the offense as a whole has a chance to be better you know certainly for sixteen games you know if he get sixteen games cam based on where he was through the start of the season and other year North Turner System. I think the offensive line will be better. I I'm excited know about McCaffrey three so <hes> you know I mean we don't really talk about him very much. I know Cooper Doug sort of give us an outline of why maybe he can fail but he also could be the number everyone running back and p._B._R.. Absolutely he was last year is basically tied with Saquon Barkley all right so of the top four running backs who has the most bus potential. Oh Jeffrey all right. We're GONNA talk about the Andre Hopkins Devante Davante Adams and the rest of the top fifteen after a very quick break on fantasy football today. We're going to get to your emails a little bit later fantasy football and C._B._S.. Dot Com. We'll be right back. Oh I cannot and not wait to play some fan duel fantasy football this season. I'm already looking at week one. You can pay up Patrick Mahomes at Jacksonville. I think I'll save some money and start. Maybe Lamar Jackson at Miami Miami play the match ups load up on star players. It's really fun. It doesn't take long to set a lineup and you can win money and by the way you don't have to wait for week. One you can play fan duel for preseason this season football games. If you've never played on fan duel that's even better because you can get a five dollar bonus with your first deposit sign up at FANEUIL DOT com slash F F T that's fanned the end will dot com slash F F t look you can get new teams every week and you have to try to find the best values and put together the best lineups without worrying about injuries waiver claims by hi weeks or anything else. 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Oh it went all the way down to twenty eight point eight percent of the targets targets and he was only on pace for seventeen hundred yards and twelve touchdowns in those four games but no seriously he didn't get quite as much of the target share when Keith cutesy and fuller. We're both healthy Boston potential for hopkins. Thank you actually drops a passenger yeah. I'd I'm less concerned about Hopkins. I think that I am the four running back. He just went over all right. I just think that if if the other guys produce a little bit better stay healthy we could see a slight light downturn in production devante atoms the bus potential for devante atoms. He averaged seventy one point two five receiving yards per game in in the first four games of the season and that was Geronimo Allison was playing very well seventy one point two five year per game. That's one thousand one hundred forty. That'd be pretty low. Those games were against in Chicago Minnesota Washington in Buffalo Three teams that did very well against wide receivers. You also have a new system in there. Maybe some some growing pains Davante Adams any bus potential dark season with the Vikings and bears end the season with the Vikings and bears. It's not great schedule. We've never seen him do what he did last year in terms of yardage and catches sure there's potential I guess it would be as if the other guys step up and similar to Hopkins you know if you get what you're getting from or <hes> you know potentially getting from fuller and not getting it from Allison and and vow the scaling you know Demi. Graham turns back the clock a little bit run game is better <hes> but but I I just look at what Rogers track record is with US number. One Guy and I'll buy into that all day long all right number seven and A._D._p.. Is David Johnson putting him number seven after he had a good year in terms of where he finished but he didn't really have that much of a fantasy in he didn't have a huge fantasy in back. I'll say David Johnson. We're putting in a lot of stock in a rookie quarterback rookie head coach. We are <hes> for sure <hes> and we know we heard this last year. Old David David Johnson is going to be back to the two thousand sixteen form again and you know it wasn't the case with a new head coach rookie head coach and a rookie quarterback. You know I mean that was essentially the same setup <hes> was Steve Wilkerson and Josh Rosen but I think the hope would be is that the amount of plays that with Kingsbury offense ran in college <hes> if they played that pace and the N._F._l.. Then David Johnson has a chance to get a lot more opportunities and smarter touches than what we saw last year you know not just run up the middle which is not what he suited for. Get him the ball in space you know give him the ball in the passing game. Though I think David Johnson stays healthy he could you know he he he showed us. It could be the number one running back and fantasy yeah enormous enormous upside for Johnson and this entire cardinals defense and a floor that we may not may not even know what it is <hes> yeah we saw it. It was the twenty seventeen could be yeah. I mean this could be just a complete disaster in Arizona and we're just GONNA have to wait and see yeah. I understand what he's just not quite as excited. He scares me at seven overall. You know I obviously Melvin. Gordon used to be ahead of him. I think you know I think in non P._B._R.. Take James Connor ahead of him N._P._R.. I might I might skip them and take <hes> like Julio Jones. I this is just a section like like the second half of the first round where there's about five spots in a row where I just have a hard time not going wide receiver. I I have a hard time taking taking him and P P R over Michael Thomas or Julio Jones or Juju Yeah and when I said Skip David Johnson I don't mean entirely I just meet at seven overall. You know I might be looking at at Julio Jones in early or something all right. Let's go to eight overall Levy mbelle. There are a lot of things we've talked about so much. He was averaging in his last four seasons. His sixteen esteem game pace was four hundred nine touches so that's not going to happen but really guys. I'm concerned about his running style behind that a different offensive it's of line one that probably won't be as good as what he played behind in Pittsburgh and I could see a tough adjustment there with way. Levian bell patiently looks for holes kind of sits there behind behind the line of scrimmage. How much of a concern is that for you? Guys Bell mean. He apologized the fancy owners Adam. There's no possibly that's coming I I I it's a definite concern. You know it's a concern you know chemistry's huge <hes> with with an offensive line and continuity and the ad that with the steelers group we've talked about this a lot you know is is Sam darnold going to elevate his game the way a hall of fame quarterback and Robs Burger did is he going to have the same you know touches. Is he going to have the same freedom you know with defenses respecting the passing game of the steelers compared to how the respect the passing game of the jets that's who may have lost Jamison crowder. We know if I now today after he left practice on Monday with a hamstring problem answering put his foot yeah so you know I think it's it's a lot of reasons why I'm afraid of Levy on bell in the first round and it's so funny like every time I write this. I'm like I don't WanNa Take Levy on bell in the first first round but I'll take him in the second round. You know it's it's splitting hairs with you know where you're GonNa take them and who you're taking him over but it's just it's hard not to see what the what the upside could be if he stays as healthy for sixteen games and even just you know seventy five eighty percent of what he was before the sitting out last year who won they all say with Bell and David David Johnson. I think I actually have these guys pretty close just a half around back from where they're both going. I I think both of them have enormous top four upside and both in the floor scares me. I guess we'll tell you what I'm going to call an audible here. I'm going to save the next eight which would be James Connor Odell Beckham uh-huh Julio Jones Juju Smith Schuster Joe Mixing Michael Thomas Travis Kelsey and then one more at fifteen plan. I'll get I did eight today. I'll do it tomorrow but I WANNA make sure we save some time for auction. Talk so yeah so the top seven where those four running backs De'andre Hopkins Davante Adams David Johnson and then number eight was levy on bell and we talked about them and their bus potential and look at the bottom of. I don't want to scare people off here. Okay these are great players. There's a reason they're going in the first round stupid. I am no it's just it's you feel that you sit there. You take the pick and you're like God. If this guy doesn't produce my team could be wrecked so it's important to talk about the downside and what could go wrong for these players and hopefully we help you out there. Some news and notes Yeah Levy on bell did apologize to fantasy owners. Can we get that tweet it back up on the screen here and again go to YouTube dot com slash fantasy football today. This is long overdue but I wanNA take a moment to apologize to all the fantasy owners who picked me me last year. I'm sorry I couldn't pull through for Y'all but trust me. This year is about to be way different with the four wise on way. I'm bringing the trophy trophy this year sure and then what is that Emoji at the end. That's a Purple Devil Right Purple Devil. What does that mean Purple Devil? I think it means maybe he's not telling us the truth Earth Yeah. I've never used the purple double before about. I'm not very emoji. Game is not very good as you know. Dallas Sign Alfred Morris Damien Williams missed practice actes as you know Cam Newton altered his throwing motion said that playing hurt was not the smartest thing but we're going to do the position previews next week. When a start with quarterbacks that'll I'll be on Monday and there's such a good case to be made for Cam Newton because he under norv Turner last year he really was having a very good? You guys agree with that premise like he was really having a really really good year under North turn out. I think he used yeah. I'm sorry Jamie but heath. I think you said you wouldn't be surprised. He can have his best passing season this year. No he hit a second second-best passing season last year including the time after he got hurt and really before he went down. He was one of the best fantasy quarterbacks I'd expect. He's going to be this year. You Have Olsen send back. You have two guys that could be amazing in yards after catch a three factor in McCaffrey <hes> better offensive line you know and obviously from I'm a fancy perspective if he runs to the level that he usually does or at least boasts do it in. It's it's hard to overlook that you know what his potential can be but talking about Saquon Barkley with Ben Gretch a few weeks ago I think it was during projections weak and he mentioned how Saquon Barkley really helped Eli Manning's passing stats and it's just another way to think about these pass catching Why can't be good for girly? It's another downgrade. I you know if that is exactly what comes to pass but you know I think again you know we're early. Falling the and drafts ended the second beginning of the third. You know just what is touchdown potential has been in this offense will be. I still think that's a fine spot for the problem. Isn't it's kind of like the tight end thing I think he's following their and our drafts but I think the C._B._S.. A._D._p.'s Eighteenth N._F._C. A._D._P.'s fourteenth. He's he's going early to mid second second. I think I think we're actually right like we talked about. Maybe we were drafting tight ends too early. I think we're right on girly. I don't think he needs to go early to mid second all right. <hes> norv Turner back to the Panthers norv Turner said Curtis Samuel is becoming an outstanding route runner. You Curtis Samuel on this show <hes> John Harvey. I said this yesterday I was like the North Yeah Yeah come on. He's obviously I have to keep he's almost in my top thirty. Wow did you is. He ahead head of D._J.. More now yet. I don't know I detail more ceilings. I I WANNA make that clear. I think I've said numerous times came into your top five. I'm close. Oh thanks I'm close to. I'm sorry I haven't seven I have I'm GonNa Move Ahead Matt Ryan I think by the end of the day I can't move ahead of Baker though I've got a Baker Baker Mayfield went for like one or or two dollars in the auction yesterday. Every quarterback did except for Mary John Harbaugh was asked about Lamar. Jackson's carries this season and he said take the over on one hundred thirty nine which really is not a huge news flash because he was over at last year Yeah Yeah Games seven starts. He was on pace for two two hundred and seventy two carries. That would be Lamar Jackson I. I said that he had some carries why he wasn't starting but he had one hundred forty seven carries for the season last year already ready these saints cut Cameron Meredith the dolphins fire their offensive line coach Pat Flaherty a strange time to do it and they replaced him with the guy who was the colts offensive line coach last year and has been a patriots offensive line coach in the past a guy whose name I was trying to find out how to pronounce this morning but every time I saw video clip they just called Alden garage so I'm going to call him. Gooch phonetically. It's Dave did googly Ermo but we're just calling him. Gooch Lear Mo- goudaillier probably right yeah. They call them good she. She usually air boat right so that's probably what it is but he is. You don't know that for a fact heath by the way no not at all but that's the thing you just say it's with confidence no one no one's ever going to hear anyone else pronounce his name. You're fine good point. That's why the heat is on all right other news items here Jamison crowder hurt put his foot or ankle whatever it is he said confidently. What did Jamie's crowder her? Yesterday is foot ankle area Gotcha. John Ross could miss two weeks the hamstring injuries so the bengals wide receivers. They are banged up <hes> Alfred Morris did in fact visit New Orleans which just gives you the impression they've seen Alfred Morris. They've seen Theo riddick they. They might WanNa add to that backfield in New Orleans Tennessee Wide Receiver A._J.. Brown's been out with a hamstring injury and the N._F._l.. was going to emphasize ofensive holding this year you know they emphasized sized defensive penalties last year and led to an amazing year for quarterbacks. Is there any fantasy relevance here with this announcement that at the N._F._l.. is going to be looking more closely offensive holding me. You probably get some runs taken back that are going to piss you off and throws yeah yeah. I don't know if in theory if cliff cliff Kingsbury is system works and he brings us the N._F._l.. That this something like this would be beneficial. I would think to him because he's not not quarterbacks on holding the ball long enough to have a bunch of holding penalties there you go. I like that. He wasn't even supposed to come on today folks. I mean what what a guy a couple of emails here and then we're going to talk auctions fantasy football at C._B._S.. Dot Com this e mail is from Travis Dear Sterling Dax and doc shepherds. Oh Yeah Yeah yeah yeah it must be. When do you consider strength of schedule? Joie like Josh Jacobs for example is being drafted super high and his schedule is brutal. Can you explain how you look at a player schedule and determine how much it will affect them earth three games maybe most it. It's just so hard to say a lot of people get caught up in in the end of season schedule and you can factor that in but so much happens in the course of a season that you know it. It's hard to say that the the same group that you see at the beginning of the year is going to be there at the end of the year just how things unfold in terms terms of looking at defenses that your players may be facing but you know he's talked about it with the the packers guys you know it. It's a little cause for concern facing the bears and Vikings or early and the lions for Aaron Judge me as a guy that has maybe the toughest schedule and I'm sorry Jamie but I am looking at Josh Jacob schedule and his first five five games Denver statistically a good run defense when they have dome atop Paco Kansas City. That's a good matchup at Minnesota at Indianapolis they could have a real sneaky leaky good defense this year and then the mayor's so that's four of his first five games could be tough match ups then week. Six is a by so I think that is really worth looking at for Josh Jacobs <hes> that's a good call by by Travis Travis Shepherd and I just think he's maybe being killing his A._D._p.. Right now it's thirty sixth overall even the people that you would you like him and you don't have that idea. No I've dropped him. You know from where I started which was after the N._F._l.. Draft was like thirteenth fourteenth and then I think he's allow you know depending on format you uh-huh somewhere sixty nine hundred or you know he. He's a fourth round pick. I think that's that's safe. It's just <hes> why wait what's what's wrong with him at thirty six overall what's wrong with. I'm sorry thirty. Three overall overall is A._D._p.. Because I guys like Marlin Mac they're still there yeah but you know heath is the Mecca right exactly. You're not the Mac Guy N._p._R.. N._P._R. Leagues but you gotTa get returned back as a dry no sorry. I don't have that but Josh Jacobs probably going to catch a lot more passes based on reports now look I Jon Gruden says he has to earn earn it. I don't know that he's going to earn you can't at this point looking at the two teams. Take Josh Jacobs over Bramante I can't I can't like in terms of I think Josh Jacobs has a possibility of catching more passes but we've seen nothing to suggest he's a better pass. Catcher and Jalen restored no but they drag him in the first round they wanNA featuring fun put more of the Mac ahead of him. That's only one spot I don't. I don't think thirty six so I think I I think again. It's you know a lot of it is depending on where you draft because if you go receiver receiver you're going into back into the third round. You know that that's a good spot to take Jacob's as as one of your first you guys but it's you know if you're comparing him to some of the receivers in that range like I. I don't want to speak for you but I know you take brandin cooks over him. Oh for sure robber woods over yeah formats. Obviously you know dependent here but you know it just depends on how you want to build your team. It's just a matter of how much you invest in those you know second or third. Wherever you WANNA put career wise you know those running backs <hes> especially somebody like Jacobs whose unproven both at the collegiate level to a certain extent and obviously at the N._F._l.? devante Freeman or Josh Jacobs Freeman Freeman Josh Jacobs Philip Lindsay Dick Jacobs just barely but I think they should both be at the end of the fourth that it was a pretty good heat side. They're not quite clip worthy email the day number two is a fun one is from Jordan. Hey Tie Asante Devon Malcolm. Those are patriots quarterbacks or defensive backs right now. I have to be yes. Yes I had the most insane draft. I'M GONNA ten team half P._R.. League with four point per passing touchdown bla-bla-bla it's a super flex league. He drafted every relevant Jones every relevant Jackson including the Jacksonville D._S._T.. And and he drafted okay Aaron Jones Julio Jones Marvin Jones Kerryon Johnson David Johnson James White James Washington into into Sean Jackson the Mark Jackson Justin Jackson also Ronald Jones to go with Julio Jones and Aaron Jones Marvin Jones and do it's very funny he also drafted A._J.. Brown and John Brown and he ended up with a really good team so if you go with the Jones Jackson Jones what is the the Strategy Johnson James Brown Adam yes. How many emails do you think we get every day this holiday you? It should have been cut not sure this of you who watched fantasy football today on C._B._S.. Sports H._Q.. We will not reading not sure this was the top two of the day okay congratulations on a great team so he's funny on paper <hes> sorry <hes> by by mistake and this is a bad time to be telling you this but one more thing I'd like to ask. Can you please leave us a five five star review. I will never read an email like that. If you read as a five star view in fact I will tell you this if you leave us a five star of you and it's really important for us so I mean it's a competitive field right right now. During this podcast for eleven years really dedicated we want to be the best <hes> your reviews would really help that and if you could tell your friends try to help us grow our show we appreciate it. We I love our listeners. We've great report with our listeners. <hes> so anything you can do could help if you leave us a five star review and you ask us a fantasy question within the review pretty good chance. I'm going to be reading reading it on the show. I got a better for you Adam. Okay I got a better one for you all right here's over here. Here's one podcast league entry. Known Starr stopped getting underway. I give away one. You've given away one already Jamie already given away one who whoever's GonNa win your stinking contests about jinxing their rivals forget about that. This is the contest anymore this this. This won't be either if you if you leave us a five star review and you send it to us the best five star review that we get. It's an entering the podcast. You don't have to send it to us. I will I will see it but then okay now. You probably do have to send it to US otherwise associative of contemptuous yeah so right as a review hi Jamie. I bet on that thank you. That's a great idea. Also I'm potentially getting kicked out of the flex league this week and we'll be right back on fantasy football today to talk about our auction of takeaways and some things that can help you with your auction right after this what's up. 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It's the state of combat podcast with the Brian Cavell subscribe at Download Today Day all right. These are couple of auction emails better than the last email that I read. This one just says it's from listener. He didn't put a name. She didn't put her name. Your auction values I use on the website appear to be based on a one hundred dollar budget. Can you explain what listeners should do for a two hundred dollar budget. Do you just simply double it well before for answer <hes> yes. That's probably the easiest way to go about it so we did. Aren't we start our auction yesterday and <hes> Ben Gretch was unaware of what budget we were working off of so saquon Barkley was nominated and it went from twenty to twenty five to thirty and all of a sudden Ben just dropped a fifty dollar bid. We're like whoa really wants Barclay and we had to explain to him that we're only going one hundred dollars in funding got them for fifty and he was like so pumped and they really act <hes> yeah. I think the easiest ways is a double I would yes maybe even at a little bit more to the top guys because they're still going to be one door players. <hes> was Barkley the most expensive by the way <hes> thirty seven probably yeah I think he was Camerin and McCaffrey went for thirty four right. <hes> Zeke was probably right in that four also all right so so is P._R.. League two running backs two receivers Affleck's tight end Kicker D._S._p.. And One quarterback and twelve team all I can't I can't wait for you to rip the guy usually rip or what he did. At quarterback George notes about <hes> Georgia's see what am I right about. Georgia's Steve Door dripped himself yesterday so okay yeah. Actually I probably Oh George which has an elite quarterback and tight end but he sacrificed that wide receiver to he has Patrick Mahomes Anzac Earth's his wide receivers are brutal but I I like his team. Here's Robert Woods Decay Metcalf Mikio Harry News do tend to linger. Luckily it's July thirtieth but definitely something but this is this started in minicamp our guys so Geez all right so it's something in that second tier of <hes> wide receivers to Evans and Keenan Allen Brandin cooks that range of guys. Tell me about the auction strategies you use. You better have a strategy when you when you do an auction <hes> sorry heath so we're able to stick to your strategies <music>. How did it go easily for me? I I was no very patient. The only thing that that I got ruined was <hes> our our buddy Michael Kaiser <hes> use I used my strategy to an extent against because I I usually will always go kicker and defense. I <hes> just to get those out of the way and I mean I you know the the guys that we were in the room with. They knew what I was was doing. <hes> I nominated the bears and I said anybody wants to spend two dollars on the bears. Go ahead and end up going for what four so four dollars you know somebody in my opinion wasting money on the bears. Now we have the bears I haven't. I haven't for two dollars. You have them for more. I think I have to okay so <hes>. I'm not a problem with you know. If you WANNA get the best defense on paper going in for for two dollars but my opinion that I'm I'm forcing you now wasted dollar that you probably didn't want to and the same thing if you end up doing that a kicker as well so <hes> but I think for me it was was just it was just being patient and when I decided to go in and get somebody I got Yonder Hopkins at Twenty eight dollars <hes> which was cheaper than I think a lot of the first round picks by comparison cheaper than Connor who was twenty nine dollars and he put it in the top four running backs cheaper than Davante Adams Yep. You've been an Adams to <hes> and I think maybe cheaper than Julio. Adams was a dollar less Julio's twenty-seven they're both dollar less though right right right right where he should go I think but <hes> but of difference from the number four pick in the draft basically like McCaffrey's Zeke Chimera to the number five live atoms and Hopkins. That's that's pretty significant. The running backs were valued much higher than than two guys right behind them. Those wide receivers behind them. Yeah and like Beckham went for for twenty six dollars. You know I'll I'll I'll take the dollar difference. Their patients is really important auctions. Jamie's team ended up. I think really good Jameis Winston for a dollar running Baxter Leonard Fournette and Marlin MAC wide receiver to receivers inflex are de'andre Hopkins Keenan Allen and Julian Edelman. That's obviously amazing Delaney Walker occur at tight end Justin Tucker and the rams defense and even stronger at D._S._p.. And Kicker on Your Bench Rashad Penny Daryl Henderson Kaelin Balazs Justice Hill you took a lot of bench bench running backs behind four net and Mac and day Sean Hamilton Kenny stills. I think it's a your team really stood out to me is one of the better ones so do things that that happened to me. <hes> you know uh-huh Jay Howard was <hes> around a little bit longer wasn't a bid <hes> I probably should have gone and maybe a dollar more. I was bidding with <hes> again Michael Kaiser who we had about the same the amount of money at at at that point <hes> I was hoping to get o j Howard <hes> another player that I wanted. I don't know I I know you're in on the MOS Ingram was ingram. Did you end up with him. No <hes> after getting in those two running backs I thought okay that was the one I think it was aiming to have in Coleman. Those are the guys maybe got Coleman Coleman. You know there. There were two guys where I was like okay if I can get this third back. I'll be really happy happy by my team by that point. I had the three receivers <hes>. I lost them Baker. <hes> I didn't WANNA spend two dollars on the quarterback just seeing how the quarterbacks went. I didn't realize at that point that George had already hidden homes. I would have really yelled at him at that point but <hes> I thought I was going to get Baker too. So you know something's missed that I missed out on also wanted to get Emmanuel Sanders instead of Kenny stills thought let me out of play the friendship strategy with with Hamilton and Sanders <hes> we should probably at some point <hes> we got a chance to circle back with P.. PRISCO after his four stops <hes> he he had some really good stuff about <hes> the broncos receivers <hes> which I'll save for tomorrow but <HES> <hes> Hamilton. I think you know you you can say maybe the arrows pointing up a little bit all right so Jamie likes to be patient. He sort of does it for fun I. I don't think you're going to say hey you should sit out like the first thirty thirty ready bids or whatever but Jamie kind of likes the challenge I I'll give you an example like you know I mean i. I think it's pretty clear how much I like Curtis Samuel <hes> it got you know I wouldn't have spent I the thing went for five dollars. Maybe four dollars <hes> it was just a bidding up Jamie thing it was it was it was four dollars <hes> but at that point I had already had had those three receivers and I needed to sort of focus a little bit more on my running backed up though I couldn't spend money on him <hes> I I honestly wasn't expecting. Can you spend as much as I did on on Hopkins I think by the point I jumped in and I think I was the last person to jump in and everybody stopped all right. He's how did you manage your budget. I had Addis pretty actual strategy at them. Nice didn't work the way that I hope and my team's FIS super boring boring. It's the playoff team that's not great <hes> but my plan was I wanted three very good wide receivers. I wanted Travis Kelsey or earth or kittle title. I ended up getting Kelsey for twenty two which is what I have him. <hes> for on my auction values. He is my most expensive player and there is a lot of <hes> a lot of value after I think every other player other than my quarterback who was an into the draft thing with Chris Towers being a jerk is like three or four dollars less than what I haven't four my auction values. My receivers Brandin Cooks Mike Evans and Cooper Cup. My quarterback is Lamar Jackson who I paid more for within <hes> in <hes> Camden I think maybe just because it wasn't and Chris through another dollar on there and I had extra money to play with <hes> but then I've just I got a ton of running back. Depth devante Freeman Kevin Coleman Lamar Miller latavius Murray Justin Jackson Dion Lewis the Foreman Ito Smith. It's funny because I I think our teams are very similar. In certain regards tight end is better right. I would say probably my starting running. Backs are better but yeah we took a very similar approach of we both got three top receivers <hes> and then just you know sort of let's just throw a lot of money at at at the Backfield <hes> on the bench wjr the your your receiver shied. He's interesting because I was in the same boat essentially once I got my three guys I was like I'm not going to really focus on that position. I Miss de because of that it all right <hes> just because like for me like you mentioned that I had Balazs Penny <hes> Blah's penny and <hes> and Henderson I at that I point I said Okay I could probably get those three guys for about ten bucks. I think is what happened <hes> and so I also wanted to try and get Royce Freeman to <hes> he went. Maybe a dollar to more than I was willing to the spend on him but it just was once you lock up those b receivers and I think you know if you WanNa look at Ben Gretchen team. He did a reverse like eleven or is it it just you know I it's an easy position. I think to find guys if you have stars that you feel comfortable with and Heath's case in mind as well. I think we both accomplish that and then it's just you know the backfield's were a little bit not necessarily unsettled because I think you can make a strong case for Freeman and Coleman in my case you know for Mac and for net and this P._r.. So it's a little bit different for those guys but you you WanNa kind of you know lock up a lot of those potential up <hes> guys that have a lot of upside you know I think we both did that yeah and Michael Kaiser who you keep referencing referencing. He seems great his you don't like his team well. I think the running backs rex have allowed a downside I guess but yeah his team's very interesting Carson Wentz. I'll get I'll save the running backs for last has Carson Wentz Michael Thomas Adam Phelan and Amari Cooper. That's awesome and a team on Robinson yeah but that's the thing like I think he didn't need to get Alan Roberts. He didn't spend eight bucks on Allen Robinson and Curtis. Samuel and I don't even whisper in the U._S.. He was just alienist Jamie and I 'cause. He knew he wanted them right. So when you want Michael Thomas Adam Feeling Amari Cooper you don't need to spend five or four on Samuel Three on Robinson and three on Dede Westbrook you could could it be right that money in addition to what you already spent on like Philip Lindsey to get to get Aaron Jones you know so but he could have had amazed him. His running backs are Philip Lindsay and serie recall it could work out great really Chris Carson on the bench and Peyton Bar Clean Barbara Yeah no he he damn good team. I I'm in total agreement with you like the things he it could have changed you know but again if you look at it from what his starting line-up is he could have the starting lineup in this league if Lindsay and Cohen or Carson one one of those three guys or to those guys excuse me are a semblance of what they were a year ago because Thomas Phelan and Cooper as his two receivers and flex and Howard at the tight end spot with once. I mean that's sick. I think this draft. This auction is a little skewed because the quarterback values values were so low so it seems like a lot of teams were able to get three really good receivers and good running backs and a good quarterback. It's just maybe maybe you could. Maybe you can do that but I'm looking at. Jamie always seem Dave's team. I loved. I thought that most team to most really there are a couple of teams that you can see why <hes> several people have a really good team well. Let's talk about a couple teams. That have a lot of not very good players on before you go to will's team. I just want bring up one more so <hes> Casey Karen in one of our hosts here at at C._B._S.. Sports H._Q.. It was his first auction and a lot of people do auctions for the first time you know <hes> <hes> Dave was putting together a draft and a couple of people build at the last minute so he went around don't ask people and they said they'll they'll try and so casey went all in on three guys early thirty four dollars on Zeke's twenty seven dollars on Juju twenty two dollars on Dominic Cooke. Those were his first threes. That's what's fifty six and twenty seven is eighty three dollars yeah. That's his budget so he's he's done at that point and he did it. What within the first right well I mean it's he was the one that ended with cuyler to Owen collared four dollars so <hes> what I say eighty three sets eighty seven dollars on on on his quarterback two running back receiver and then three dollars on Dante Moncrieff who should be a dollar player yeah so you know he <hes> right now? If you just take his lineup as it was filled is starting receivers and flex he better love Ben Rothlisberger is Doodoo Smith Schuster Dante Mockery from James Washington lineup as as it auto filled you know because the way that our system does it but you know again. It's just a matter of how much do you allocate for guys early and then you gotta find a lot of dollar players that you love yeah. I'm pretty interested in this strategy. I think the execution could have been better her book. It's Kinda Murray's great sure but like Jameis Winston for a dollar instead of Murray for four dollars if you're going with three expensive players Zeke Davin uncooked juju Smith Schuster for about what we eighty three percent of your budget then you probably are getting a dollar quarterback in a dollar tight end and I think tight end he did great. He Got Hooper Henry. Yeah you always find there. He Actually Got Philip Rivers for a dollar. I don't know why but probably just see you know he's probably just fed up with watching all all these Blair's go and he says the bid on somebody but you gotta go dollar Kicker Defense dollar tight end dollar quarterback <hes> three studs and then you gotta get at some guys that you really think have sleeper potential to be starters like you know <hes> what'd you get form and four was a dollar two dollars dollar to write. You know got a guy like that a guy like you know Kikuchi Q._T.. Dejean Hamilton you know he's D._D.. For three the Mar- Miller and Devante three Lamar Miller and about Deontay for misuse me both went for two dollars so so I actually do think that you can make this work and the other thing is like Ben talked about this last week. Don't be too obsessed with what out your team looks like on Draft Day. It's GonNa look a lot different throughout the year you anchor your team with three studs that are never coming out your lineup say bye weeks and you're good on waivers. I do think it could work. Will's team was a little bit different. He spent sixty eight percent of his budget onto players and nobody else has more than seven dollars and that was sterling shepard that seems kind of expensive for Sterling Shepherd but Cam Newton's is quarterback is Alvin Kamara and Christian McCaffrey. I mean as a P._R.. League and he may have two hundred catches right there from his running backs. Yes he is Jarvis Landry at wide receiver and Corey Davis is other starting wide receiver Sterling Shepherd Better Than Corey Davis. Yes Oh yes corey davises sterling Shepard ERS wide receiver and his flex. Let's say that also drown them house. Actually I kind of like we'll see am I crazy for like it. We'll see let me read it again. Cam Newton Chimera McCaffrey Jarvis Landry Sterling Shepard Corey Davis or Geronimo Alison at Flex Vance McDonald tight end and then the Shawn Sean McCoy Antonio Calloway the fact that like I guess Y'all know I like Toronto Alison a lot but I think this worked. I think this is a better execution of spending a ton of money on a few players <hes>. I only did it onto it he he did you know different approach. He spent no sixty eight percent of his budget as opposed to eighty three now the the the numbers that you'll see toward the on his bench you know once Dave publishes the results don't Shepherd for seven dollars that was <hes> at the end when he had money to right right right right <hes> because he missed out on some guy's throughout the course he spent five dollars Freeman. If he spends those twelve dollars elsewhere you know like I think for example if he takes those twelve twelve dollars and he gets settlement for ten or twelve I got element for ten put cattleman at the top of that receiving core. They got shepherd. Put them in put in a dollar running back. It's a much better roster all right guys we use the example I think Chris Dave where you can look at bins roster and find like eight different will should have drafted we <hes> we are at a time time. Unfortunately we have to vacate our podcast studio because canal and bell is coming up. That's an awesome podcast. You should be listening to do you have any final ten second thought on what to do in auctions <hes> watch C._B._S. H._Q.. At noon for fantasy football today I would say save your money for the end. You're going to get some great values. Save a portion of your budget. I like to be the bully at the end and take all the sleepers. All the two dollar players be the will bully

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Top 6 WR Debates! Julio or Tyreek? Hopkins or Godwin?  (06/24 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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Top 6 WR Debates! Julio or Tyreek? Hopkins or Godwin? (06/24 Fantasy Football Podcast)

"This is fantasy football today from CBS sports got. Email us at fantasy football at CBS I dot Com. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Cheney well your ago. Average deposition of like this that wide receiver, LISA HALF PBR de'andre Hopkins Sixth Overall Devante, Adams two picks later, Julio Jones two picks later then Michael. Thomas Odell Beckham those top five going into the first thirteen picks. You had tyreek hill going just after that. Hopkins Adams Julio Michael Thomas Odell Beckham entire kill was a weird year for wide receivers wasn't nearly as good as two thousand eighteen for wide receivers and this year. Familiar names different order, but right now adp on NFC is Michael. Thomas Fifth overall, then, Davante Adams! Deandra Hopkins tyreek Hill and Julio Jones and one more spot after that is Chris Godwin. We're going to talk about the top six. Those six Michael Thomas Adams Hopkins Hill. Julio and Chris Gavin welcome to a wide receiver. Why rankings edition of Fantasy football today at a maser Jamie Eisenberg Heath comings and Ben Gretch. Jamie and overall assessment of these top six wide receivers. And what do you think about these guys? Compared to previous years where you had Antonio Brown an Odell Beckham in there and you just missed Schuster last year. You know you had kind of the same names over and over again. What do you think about the group this year? which is maybe a little bit different than what we've seen in the past. There obviously awesome. I think they're all going to be. You know if they stay healthy. Have the chance to you know. Continue to produce a high level. Clearly. There's some challenges. Is Calvin really gonNA eat into Jones. Hating her says well is the onder happens going to thrive in Arizona. New Leaving Shawn Watson and the situation he's been used to is Scott when going to be successful with Tom Brady, but you know from what we've seen from them either with a small sample size, no like Godwin having his breakout season last year or or what Julio Jones over the course of his career, I mean these guys are awesome concern i. think would be that. If you draft them early. Are you leaving running back on the board and missing out on still very good wide receiver talent in that round three four rain, and I think that's the the draft challenge that people have to sort of you know deal with his, or you're gonNA go running back heavy with your first toothpicks. And then still get good wide receiver talent later while passing up quickly note. To of these guys may be one of these guests. Heath. You've got devante atoms to and Julio Jones three. They're both coming off of down years by their standards. Why are they two and three? Yeah I mean th down years by their standard sure, but Hopkins had an injury that cost him four games. Adams had an injury costume four games. You'd look at his sixteen game pace over the last two seasons. It's one hundred fifteen catches, fourteen hundred yards and eleven touchdowns. He had some weird bad touchdown elect last year. He's normally been one of those guys that were saying. He's not GonNa score quite that many again. He probably won't be like a twelve thirteen guy, but I expect he's got. Got As good a chance of anybody as scoring double digit touchdowns, and both of these guys in situations where Sharma Jamie mentioned Calvin, Ridley and Hayden. I will ask your for the first half of the year. It was Calvin early Mohamed Sanu and Austin Hooper so I. Don't think Julio's got necessarily more competition that he had last year. Adams doesn't really have any more competition than he had last year. They're going to both go over one hundred and fifty targets, and they're both still really good. Hey Ben. Third episode of the week here's Ben, Gretz, Ladies and gentlemen. then here's what I find surprising based on our rankings where Hopkins is six for Jamie v for Dave and six for heath. Where do you have the Andre Hopkins? I seventh but I'M I. I have him seventh now as well so you've moved Dj more ahead of him. Correct okay. I have more five and a half since January so heats a copycat. Well. What I find interesting is that the ADP I read Michael Thomas Davante Adams Hopkins Three Anti anti-wrinkle Julio Jones Chris Godwin. So are the CBS. Guys just down on the Andre Agassi then. Maybe and I. Don't think it's wrong I. Mean there's. Things to consider right we. We know that you know. He's talked a lot about with him. Moving to a spread offense is going to be a little harder for him to dominate. Targets, we also know there's probably gonNA throw more. So, maybe he can get close to his a similar target number as you kinda projected out, but. I think. I. Don't know initially for me. It was concerned about changing teams the short off season just the history of players changing teams You know a lack of certainty with Colin Murray. We're all really excited, but he's a running quarterback to when we don't know how much. His. His, passing ability will translate to an elite number. One type receivers season especially when I think Christian Kirksey. Good player and way for Gerald so going to be around. So, there's a lot of elements there. That are like okay. What is his real upside? But then lately I said I've been coming around this. Just remembering that yonder options is really really good, and this team's probably on throat. Because it's never been on a team that's thrown for more than like forty one hundred yards right around there. He's never been on a team. That's throwing thirty touchdown passes, but he always gets the thirty percent or more target share the only in the last five years knowing times he didn't get thirty percent or more of the targets was the osweiler year the other four years? It's been at least thirty percent. You know it's hard to. That's a lot. It's hard to. I guess project that. Was that fair to say you know you're not gonNA. Give somebody thirty per maybe atoms. But. If. He got thirty percent of the targets last year. From just what cuyler Murray did, he would have been the second most targeted receiver in the NFL and it would have been the third most targets of his career 166. You go get there. No, no, yes, a lot harder to do in the spread offense right right. All right so we have a lot to talk about with all of these guys and we're looking forward to it. We're also going to read your emails at fantasy football at CBS. I DOT COM. I do have one news item to get to. It's about a wide receiver glass. Time we saw him in a full season. He was number two. Number five and PR that was two thousand eighteen, and that is Antonio Brown NFL network, reporting that the seahawks and the raiders have had internal discussions about signing Antonio Brown. I only played one game in two thousand, nine hundred, and it was good against the dolphins. Did you say the raiders? What's that? Fool me once. Shame. Like. What the raiders that I get it all the wrong team I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying that's hilarious. If you're right Raven Raven Rail. season. Okay well, that's disappoint been more fun if it was the raiders but I'm glad we can imagine. The raiders brought him back. Alarm bells should have got off right there. I'm sorry about that. The Ravens. You know. He's always working out with his cousin. Hollywood Brown and Lamar Jackson so I. Guess that Makes Sense. But how do you guys think? Antonio Brown could be if he's able to play this year. Way Better than wor is getting drafted. Right he I think. I probably ranking number three receiver. Somewhere around, thirty. Seattle's interesting because if he goes to Seattle Hour I. Don't even know the answer to this question I would think bobby. I was thinking Baltimore. because. He does Seattle. I don't know how you rank Brown lock in Metcalfe's. It would crush those other guys I was GonNa say this report is most notable for me. Because Seattle did bring Josh Gordon late last year, and Gordon's applying for reinstatement and working out apparently, in Seattle right now and I. Don't know if they've had talks with into. That hasn't been reported, but it seems like Seattle's kicking the tires on A. Big Wide Receiver. Edition we'll big name. Name Right. the report, according to the NFL is whether it's Josh Gordon or Antonio Brown. There's a strong sense. The seahawks will eventually take a chance to upgrade wide receiver, so it sounds like they're gonNA. Make a move. Okay, but we saw the Antonio Brown last or the Josh Gordon thing last year and it didn't really. have an impact. To these are two separate things, clearly Gordon. I wouldn't probably blink an eye in terms of lock it in Mecca. Antonio around I, would. Okay well as We like to Seattle wide receivers quite a bit so i. don't want that to happen. Although hypothetical seahawks go outside Antonio. Brown Russell Wilson Becomes qb blank. For the army. Probably put them at Adak by him. Three Yup it's either three or four with back. I just want to point out. Gordon was nine point one yards per target last year ten point four the year before he still been very good, seattle just used him situationally I. DO agree with Jamie. It's a different thing, but he came in midseason if they brought him back this year after played with them last year I think he could be kind of a more of a threat to to particularly metcalf for me would be a concern. And this one just popping up on Rota World steelers coach Mike Tomlin is comfortable with where Ben Roethlisberger is that in his rehab. Nice. All right back to the wide receiver does a quick little detour back to the top six wide receiver, so I heard the raiders are looking. Man The raiders Jeez. Oh actually. Let me let me promote a few things. I'm glad we're recording Tuesday afternoon, so you'll hear this on Wednesday so I had a lot of fun winning. Poker tonight on twitch. That was great, but Youtube we're on youtube if you. WanNa Watch US Youtube. Dot Com slash fantasy football today. We also have the mailbox show on Friday. Send in your questions. Via, apple, podcasts review or email at fantasy football at CBS DOT com and baseball's back. I got my jeeter shirt on right now. Baseball's probably back so. That's good. The raiders of starting baseball. She's. Going to be I've never live this one down in Jefferson and the raiders. Let's check out the fantasy baseball today podcast. Get ready for the season. Coming very very quickly. And the impact. How's IT GONNA work? We're trying to think about. How can you really do a head to head league? Like would you just do total points which you just do Rodeo because there's going to be? Eight ish weeks of games nine. Nine maybe actually maybe ten. A head to head with an this is where my presence is missed. Do head to head with doubleheaders. You could play. Everybody wants, and then you sort of boils. It's easy right, but when you start the playoffs, you put in the final three weeks this season. Yeah, I don't know what happened so short row with these three weeks. Matter in these three weeks. Don't matter. We've got ten weeks. We're going to use them all just. Why don't you just play? Whoever scores the most points wins? People like playing against each other. Yeah I know, but it's just it's just different. It's weird. If you want to do that, you could play basketball. I'm so much less enthusiastic. This shared. It's such a shame I love fantasy baseball. I can't really get into it right now. What am I supposed? Start a fantasy baseball draft right now it's. Almost. Three months I one draft. It's still going, don't we? Yes. Yes. It's crazy buddies, but the clock for almost two weeks with somebody I can probably guess who it is now now you'd be surprised. I'm pretty sure. That will brinson usually is. All right anyway. Fantasy baseball today, check out the podcast. Let's do fill in the blank V., top six wide receiver with the most upside is blank. Thomas our weekly. Michael Thomas like we. Thomas Souissa. Look. Yes. We aren't Michael. Thomas but I think it's fair to note that down dre. Hawkins and Julio Jones they've had. I think they've had better years than what they they've been close. They've all had huge years like Micheal Thomas did last year. So I think it's a fair question either way. In P. P. R. I think it's pretty clearly Michael Thomas but. There's others you could make. You could argue for Adams or or Tyrique I think a non. Romy is very clearly tyreek, Hill, if Micheal Thomas is not being considered. Clearly even in PR. Yeah in all formats. But offense. I mean I think you said Adams had the best chance to score W touchdowns. Topics were thirteen two years ago when he was healthy, scored seven last year in twelve games, but to those twelve games he didn't even play twenty percent of snaps. You left week one very early in that game in Mexico City against the chargers after think eighteen percent of the snaps. The game he returned after his collarbone only played fifty ish. Percent Snaps, and he scored seven touchdowns in about ten games. And then he scored to a in three playoff games twice in the AFC championship I think he has monster touchdown upside with Patrick problems in monster yardage upside that Davante Adams. Adams is more of a target Canada. Adam, we correct something else you wrong about sure the Andrei. And Julio Jones have not had season's. Just as good as Michael Thomas, what were their best seasons? I okay. I can pull that up. Thomas last year over here. What at Times Square last year three seventy four? Julio's best here with three sixty nine. Okay, so score one for as at Hopkins was three thirty something. The Best Year was three thirty four. Okay, so Julio's been up. There have all right. WE'LL SPLIT SPLIT SPLIT fifty percent, but I got the raiders thing wrong. Some batting three, thirty three, which is great. would be to fifty actually if you were half on one and zero and the other. One for three. Okay I wou tyreek Hill also keep in mind when he left the game against the chargers. as Ben just said very early in that game. He was pretty bad after that you know Houston not himself. They that week eleven week twelve was a by after that last five games of the season. He didn't have more than I. Think Seventy two yards just he was. Not Tyreek Hill. And Lose a little bit. If Hartman takes on a bigger role and Watkins Celtic. I don't think so I'm with you I'm just you know it's it's? It's a potential if yeah, if Edward to is as good as advertised, catchable backfield and Hartman takes on whatever. Whatever extent If he does. And and Watkins is still playing. Whatever percents of the snaps? He's GonNa lie. Then I wonder if you know, tyreek takes a slight dip in production. Yeah certainly a reasonable take. I think there have only been two wide receivers in the last five seasons who have finished top five in pr with less than ninety catches. tyreek Hill in two, thousand, eighteen and Chris. GOB went in two thousand and Nineteen Godwin though played fourteen games. He would have had more than ninety catches. But keep that in mind the other thing to keep mine if you're playing a non PR league. tyree kills two thousand eighteen season. He actually scored more fantasy points than Michael. Thomas did in two thousand nineteen in non PBR so his two thousand eighteen season was really outstanding in. All right back to fill in the blank, which top six wide receiver has the most downside? It's Hopkins Godwin I like to. I am not yeah I think it's Hopkins or Godwin. I me know to be fair. It's probably Thomas. Just because he's being drafted as a top five overall player, and it's unrealistic that he's GonNa do to last year because Emmanuel Sanders will cut into whatever production he has, and Camara should be hundred percent. So, if you're getting twenty eighteen, Michael Thomas that's not bad. But it's not top five player. So this is what this is. What really changed things for me with Thomas? Like he one hundred and eighty five targets us here. Is that right most since two thousand fifteen for any wide receiver, but the two years before that he was right around one fifty. So you and he didn't really like his pay. His rates were pretty similar, so basically just an increase in targets. And then he Michael, Thomas was the number six PR receiver, both two, thousand, seventeen and two thousand eighteen, so I kind of felt like if his targets come back down to one fifty. He's GONNA be disappointing. But? Two Thousand Eighteen Michael Thomas even though he was number six NPR. Those fantasy points would have been good enough to be number one in two thousand, sixteen in two, thousand, seventeen and number two in two, thousand, nine, hundred behind only Michael Thomas. To amazing years in a row, his two thousand, eighteen, I just looked at up. was good enough to outscore every running back except for Christian McCaffrey in that format last year. He did eighteen would have been the number two running back in two thousand nineteen. And Twenty. Thousand was just ridiculous here for wide receiver so. Michael Thomas still if he gets hundred fifty targets as a good chance to finish as the number, one wide receiver NPR, but he still hasn't had stores massive. That's the other side of it. We just learned that even if breeze goes down, he like you know He. He has a lot to do with that success in. Bridgewater is not there anymore, but I think he'd be finally Janus. Faith Hill though. Different scenario. The top six receiver I won't draft is blank. I don't have one that I wouldn't draft. Okay, but Hopkins is going third months receivers. You're not going to draft him I probably least likely to draft him, yes. Top six, wide receiver with the highest floor is blank. Easily Thomas. I would say non PR. It's not Michael Tigar. Dominant format. What do you guys think that I think I think it's Tyreek? Hill and PGA are. Also Thomas! Heath you look like you want to insult me this. Look at your face like you're about to drop the boom well. No I always want to insult you I I was trying to decide. I was really stumped by a non PPO or I think I'd probably lean, I think probably nil. Catches are so different like he's like an eighty six catch guy and Michael Thomas at one hundred fifty last year. When a FREAKING SEASON YET UNBELIEVABLE! All right, so how far ahead of the pack is Michael Thomas from the rest and let's compare it to the running-backs. Who's WHO's more ahead of the rest of the position? Christian McCaffrey Michael Thomas. The rest of the elites. Thomas Jamie. Peoria? I actually I'M GONNA? Say McCaffrey because of Jamie's. Argument that he just made about. All the guys are hurt and Thomas Mann become back to fifty targets. I don't think there's I mean there's a there's a big pretty huge difference for both. Yeah I have McCaffrey A lot. Further ahead of Saquon, Barkley and I knew Thomas ahead of atoms, so I'll say McCaffrey's stands up more. Are you nervous about Julio Jones at this stage in his career with. You know some some decline in the stats last year. There's six hundred chimps like. To go around and Atlanta and it's basically Julio Calvin Ridley and Aden hers no disrespect to Russell Gauge. Why was it a disrespect to Russell? I don't see unless Julio gets hurt, but I. don't see a non injury case for him getting fewer than one hundred fifty targets. He's going. He's always going to be fourteen hundred yard guy. Okay. Does this matter to you? Tom Brady. Goblin, last year, head, thirteen, hundred, one, thousand, three, hundred, thirty nine yards and nine touchdowns. In the last ten seasons with the Patriots. Only one wide receiver. Has Well. I guess twice Wes Welker was the only wide receiver with twelve hundred yards twice. Only one wide receiver I. Think had more than eight touchdowns. That was only one time so basically what Chris Kaban did last year. No wide receiver did with Tom. Brady in the last decade in New England does that matter to you. I don't care what happened with him in New England to be honest. Because Bruce Arians a different animal than what he's had before, he's receivers are different than what he's had before aside from that two thousand, seven, two thousand eight campaign. and. Neither. I just think these guys are going to be fine. I think they're going GONNA, be fine to I, think the gap between Godwin Evans. I have a hard time with it. I don't agree with it. I think there's a lot of Dave has some good numbers on this old. Where Brady's best players typically not been outside receivers, except for that one moss season. It's still a relevant, though yeah I I, my issue with that I don't know that Godwin is very similar to the other slot receivers that he's had in the sense that boat. It's essentially just welker settlement right, and they're both option route, guys. They're both short area. AGILITY QUICKNESS GUYS GODWIN IS A. A he can be that. I'm not saying he can't, but he's a different type of slot receiver. He's more vertical slot committed on a place down the field last year, and I don't know that he's going to be running a whole lot of like option routes and things its own. This is just my perception. It could be wrong I feel like Chris Godman is a more complete wide receiver already than Mike Evans's Mike Evans says. He's really really good at his tricks, but he's kind of two trick, Pony. and. I think Chris. Godwin can do more, and I don't. I'm worried that if he doesn't get those deep shots, he doesn't do very much after the catch if he doesn't get as many of those shots I feel like the floor is a lot lower for Evans. He's going to have such better quarterback play, though both these guys I mean you know. They. They were successful last year based on a lot of them in what areas did for them in left, which did for them. I just think they're going to have a much better. You know. quarterback situation based on how Tom Brady. Is GonNA play? Even as age, yeah! I agree with that for sure, but the other concern I would just add with Godwin and again. It's the gap that I'm talking about it. And he makes a decent plan about the floor, but is Gronkowski and they're gonNA run more two tight end sets and soulful Jay is still involved to some degree. Those are short area targets and intermediate targets. They're all Godwin's range Evans. Still seems like the clear downfield threat. When when Brady does start until then I think he will throw a lot more downfield in Tampa than he did in New England. England I grew. Jamie's can be completely different eeking back into Brady's history the one year he played with Brandin cooks, his average depth, the target averaged throw was a full yard higher than any other season. He's had since twenty thirteen. He was way more vertical passer when he had legitimate vertical threat. Any will be in Tampa Bay in offense is going to have more vertical routes I. Think Evans kind of has less competition for the types of routes. He's GonNa run in the depths that he's going to see targets than Godwin does. The thing about Evans I? Think which is great I know. We're getting away from the topic here, but. His value is just ridiculous like. He may struggle a little bit. But if he's anywhere close to what his average are, and you're getting him in round three, and in some cases mid end around three. That's a steal. Yeah he's Adam Godwin six. So I think the gap should be closer, but I haven't should be talked. That's exactly what ADP is by the way Godwin, six Evans Eight, but separated by eight picks. And his just another thing to keep mind Chris Godwin. For his career averages, fifteen point one yards per catch Julian and west welker average eleven yards per catch in their career, Godwin is a beast. These different employers yeah, but just you know, play the slot, play, similar roles, but different players. One more thing to keep in mind Tampa Bay through the ball, though but less later in the year, their offense last six games of the year gap defense rather got better. They threw less also face some crappy offenses, but there's just a lot. There's a lot so you know what I'm GonNa. Open the Florida you guys. I'm going to let you talk it out. I'M GONNA. Let you rank the top six number. One I know Michael Thomas Fuming let you rank the next five and you guys can. Can debate the rankings and whatnot and we'll. We'll hear from our analysts do that after this quick break here on fantasy football today we're coming right back. Agency check draft check now when the NFL offseason truly begins. Hey, it's Brinson, hosted the pick six NFL podcast here to remind you that we will remain daily throughout awesome. Don't worry. 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So I think the best thing to do here is give me rankings one through six I. Guess we'll go PR here. Jamie kick it off. I'm going to go with Michael Thomas of the raiders one. Adams to Julio Jones Three. tyreek Hill for and. Then Hopkins six Hopkinson. Heath? Same. Top Five is Jamie and DJ more six. Ben? And I go Thomas Hill Adams Jones And then the big question that I had mostly January and February and something I'd like to discuss a little is dj more verse, Chris Godwin Straight up and because I fallen very firmly into. Dj should go ahead of Chris got. Don't understand why it doesn't I have more five Godwin six hopkins up. Wait doesn't is because Godwin's already had the top five and DJ more heaven I- Godwin Godwin did last year and fourteen games and I know Dj more only played fourteen and a quarter as well but Godwin was just a lot better, that's. But it was officiant. Talk a lot about efficiency regression right? He had eleven yards for target. Last year. He had nine touchdowns a massive touchdown. Right that stuff is going to aggressively at one hundred twenty targets. He's pacing for a lot more but more had a lot more volume in the same number of games as you've just said and he's He was a year younger. Younger he's playing with a quarterback. I know Winston wasn't great, but Cowan was pretty bad last year across the board in in pretty much any metric. They went traded him this off season. It'll be a third stringer. and more was very very good on the volume that he did get compared to guys, courtesy mule, who was massively deficient on the volume that he got. and more had the has the longer track record had along a track record as a prospect coming in I think Godwin's very good like. I said I have ranked six, and he's one of my favorite young players to take know I think we did a dynasty start mock not too long ago, I took more in God with back to back at the turn, the one to turn, but I will take more ahead of God when that format, too and Goblin goes higher I. I just I don't understand how more with a better prospect profile, better track record younger, worst QB more volume last year. Endless still productive is going behind the guy who was mostly just officiency last year. I think probably two things would be one quarterback by still probably worse. Going in Yep most people take radio bridgewater offense steady. And For me, it's it's offense. I think that Bruce Arians and what he does, and what will you still will do? Versus what job ready hopefully will do, and I have them two spots apart. You know this isn't a knock against. Dj, because I certainly understand where you're coming from, but I just think Chris Dodd when such touchdown potential also. You know what you which you should be able to get from him. Until Dj more does that. Like get over the if minister Know get to six plus maybe get a ghost attend. I just feel more comfortable with Godwin right now. would not be surprised by any stretch. If what you're saying happens, that more is better, I will say this though Adam because you brought this up that you know we are probably especially based on. ADP were down on. Hopkins, we are higher on Dj more probably anybody else you know and that's not even showing Ben's rankings on our on our Dave's a little bit down on more by comparison heath and I have. He said he moved up the sex I'm GONNA, ranking. So He's six three weeks seven for me. Dave has nine I've been trying to do my due diligence. A I Adam those this but I've been trying to listen to some other podcasting. People are excited about Dj more three. We take him around to. And, I did draft another magazine last week. I got the more early round three. Shots that he was still there. paired him with garden similar to what you did then, but it was with Saquon. Barkley, so I went Barkley. Godwin Dj more in I was like. Send me the trophy now because getting those three players. I was ecstatic about it but we're. We're I. Think a little bit higher Dj more, and you can make a case that he's a tough guy. And that goes back to what I was saying at the start of the show that you can wait on receiver a little bit. And Pass this top six. Allen Robinson's GonNa. Be Good. Hopefully Juju bounces back ugalde encounter really that they're going to have you know potentially monster seasons it's it's a coup cup. You know it's such A. It's such a fun position this year that you don't have to take one of these guys early I it's it's just you know. Hopefully we get twenty eighteen raw. These guys are monsters, but you know I think there's going to be a lot of the wide receivers. Butter well bring this about Godwin though because Moore had one hundred and thirty five targets in basically fourteen games played fifteen technically, but basically fourteen games. I don't know if he had a target in that game he left, but to targets caught a pass. He played six naps, okay, hundred and thirty three targets then in fourteen games. Godwin was on pace for one hundred and thirty, seven or one, hundred and thirty, eight hundred thirty seven targets in sixteen games. That's really not a lot of targets for a guy that you want to finish top five overall I mean. For tyreek hill like because he his yards per cat. All less than what Thomas gave you in two thousand eighteen, but Goblin is up there and Norwich per catch too I mean he's actually very comparable to tyreek hill, which is crazy, but It's not a ton of targets and. The Bucks had the fourth most pass attempts in the NFL last year. Yeah, so and they add gronk and they added Gronk now. The tight ends did combine for over one hundred targets. I think one hundred ten. Where did the panthers ring last year in terms of? Their first, but I'm more confident that they're going to have to throw a ton and their new offense is going to be a pass heavy offense than I am. The bus will be better. And why wouldn't you run more? Why wouldn't you protect Tom Brady a little bit? They were saying seconds. The falcons is referring rusty. One Pass A. I would say there's a better chance of more having more targets got him. Well. It's really more the Goblin like. Does that target volume concern you? Is that a? More is. That the panthers added Robbie Anderson not like he's not going to be involved. Yeah and did you hear her to Sam? Is GonNa have a bigger? Sables concern too and Jamie good point about the touchdowns the. And as you said that I realized you know I'm probably more optimistic about more potential than others. He's right though he's only scored six touchdowns on one hundred and forty two career receptions. That's not very good I will say that. He had one hundred forty six receptions in his college career record seventeen CDs so I'll. It was good at it if this is, this is regression coming in. Hopefully big way you know I just don't know if he's going to be. Godwin feels like he could be ten plus touchdowns. Can can do. Season like that, but it just enough he if he will, and so, that's what separates it from me a little bit. Yeah, sure and I. Think I'm just a little bit more optimistic about it, but it's fair to to not be and he. You're right. You're right there. You haven't back back. Yeah. The important thing is like he's going to score touchdowns. This year. We'll find out this year if his best season if he's Keenan Allen or t, Y, Hilton, where six or seven is the good touchdowns, and you give them Dj more, or if he actually has that top five upsides. Yeah, okay, next topic, then tyreek Hill second for Ben and fourth I believe for Jamie and heath. Scott, so that's tyreek Hill ahead of Julio Jones devante atoms. The Format Nanking Pr Over Jones. But Keep Your I. Just think Jones what he should be able to do. Reception lines put some head of thiry. Was the best wide receiver in non PBR in two thousand eighteen. Is that right? And NPR scoring like in was about as good as it gets for him. FINISH THREE SO I. I don't know the I have a hard time, and it was a very good season for wide receivers I have a hard time picturing in being better than that year. Especially we talked about could make all Hartman improve a little and take a couple tarts away I. worry a little bit about with Clyde. Edwards Ealier and the way they've used Damian Williams, having both those guys on the field and the. The. Red Zone that so many of their touchdowns seemed to come from inside the tin with guys. Running these jet sweeps, or these trickster type plays in those tyreek hill scores on a lot of those is the perfect type of plays, also were Damian Williams and Clyde Edwards. He'll be used as well so I. I think there's a little bit of competition concern, but I mean we're arguing to versus for. We have to this is important decisions. You know it's now the the best wide receiver for the best quarterback you know, no disrespect, the tribes, cows different position, but this is. You know his this guy know this is this? Is this guy you WanNa have if you if you love the chiefs and everybody should love the cheese from fancy perspective so It's it's. It's worth taking him in and if you like him to take to. Its. You can't really argue I think taking any of these guys. I think anyone by Tom. I think with hill the deciding things for me. It's not really a knock on. Jones or Adams but. The offense that even you know they, they let a lot and they still through a ton in situation neutrals such. You know situation neutral situations. They've through even in one score games in the first half, and and way more than not they're. They're going to be passed heavy. Even if they win a lot of games, they're. They're basically not influenced by the fact that they lead teams still throw, and he's tied to the best quarterback, NFL again assault disrespect to Matt Ryan in an era Rogers, but. Those guys aren't aren't on that level, just frank. Julio has tons of upside. Because Atlanta will I think throw a time as well I'm concerned about yes Adam should have thirty percent of the targets but Green Bay, falling even lower in pass attempts to a really low number, if you very successful offensively and that would cap adams. You know he'd still be probably top five receiver where have ranked by third I agree with these guys that is very good, but I think it would cap a ceiling a little bit I think tyreek ceiling is essentially unlimited. He's always been productive. You've mentioned a twenty eighteen. How good he was! He was good last year. When healthy very good he was gonna Playoffs when what's his cat ceiling because you say? It. It's limited. That's I. Think the issue because he see hundred yards, he can be fifteen touchdowns i. don't think that's. Fifteen shutdown realistic was probably only ninety catches I agree like his seal when I say, his ceiling is unlimited I mean like he has potential to shatter records for long touchdown. Long touchdowns in. One Year Paddock Rainy Moss type. Player right like everyone remorse used to have these months. She's catch somebody on touchdowns together with him in Mahomes in this offense, Terry cast potential to have like eight or ten long touchdowns in a season, which is crazy to talk about, but that would give him a massive yardage healing. He wouldn't be a hundred catch got. tyreek hill in his last three seasons. If I have this handy stat, here I guess I do. He scored twenty six receiving touchdowns. Fourteen of them have been from forty or more yards out. Fun Stuff. Yeah, he's teeny place twice a year. The raiders data's. tyreek hill by the way the raiders just gives you. All right anything else guys anything else you WANNA YOU WANNA fight about I. Think what Ben says about atoms interesting. How run heavy? They could be the packers if they are. Bottom five and pass attemps. That's a bad sign for Davante Adams. You don't get elite wide receiver I don't think they're going to be as good though running the wall. And like even if they throw five hundred passes, which is probably. Close to bottom five. And it would be quite a bit lower than last year when I recall key still. One hundred fifty target guy. Yeah. He's the best bet for thirty percent targets, even better than the Michael. Donald, probably. Make Sense. What else yes, what did I do about five receivers? What's the format. Happy. HALF PBR Michael Thomas. devante atoms tyreek Hill Julio Jones and a whole bunch of running backs. 'cause I don't really feel super comfortable taking. Anyone Else Adam feel unstoppable receiver. Not happening that was that was one of your big takes. I it was. Not. Top Day really think vehicles will be top five. Number two actually. I. Believe that I believe that with feeling like if they if they have to throw the ball, you it. I just I'm worried about how much they're gonNA throw the ball. Really say that here. Let me defend number five for me. Yeah, I. Guess would be Chris Goblin really good. Yeah. It's running backs. So. Thank you for asking Jabe. Let's read fantasy football dot coms from Michael. Hey Jd, Turk, Elliot and Carla. SCRUBS scrubs with Zeke's damaged off with no. I agree with the premise of this question. With Ezekiel Elliott's damaged offensive line does that substantially help his PR potential and unfortunately downgrade DAX wide receivers. What's Dan besides Frederick leaving right? All of that is in their offensive line is still well above average. It's not damaged. It's not bad. It's just not leaps and bounds better than every other offensive line like it had at in Zeke's career earlier. And there's no way that Zeke's GonNa suddenly cut into the receivers target share. That's that's the wrong. You're going the wrong way on that okay. From Dosier I was auto drafted the following team in a PR league. Matt Ryan Julio Jones and Cooper Cup Christian McCaffrey Mile Sanders. This is pretty good. Tyler higby robber woods at flex and he also has. The chargers. The Rams would anyway. The question was Camakers on his bench as well. He's got a lot of rams. The free agent was thin at wide receiver on some trying to trade either woods or cup for a wide receiver to level player to relieve my concentration of rams. I love to trade and. Keep keeps going here. But are you concerned about all the rams he has, he has cup. He has woods. He has higby, and he has acres has bench. He has all the rams except for golf. Basically So He's trying to trade one of the receiver for another receiver yeah. I Would Sell Cup because you'll get more in return for him. Based on what I think most drafts with the rankings will tell you. Stole, was the format. P P. R.. I mean this may be something you could pull off. Did Anymore if somebody's looking at a different site. I also like you have enough really good players on this team I'm not so worried about your fifth sixth and seventh best players or fifth, sixth and ninth best players playing for the rams. And the rams like weren't really that great offensively last year, and still if you had cup in woods, did well above average offense. Yeah, yeah, the concern would be. is if acres that. Place Bench player for him. Though right yeah Oh. You don't have to worry about. He said right Tony from Los Angeles. Hey Corey Sean Eric George. World could opinion on fire Wow I know you guys have talked about this a few times and mostly said to go with the wide receivers available in the late first round like Davante Adams. Julio Jones tyreek Hill. Deandra happens et Cetera, but I just wanted to ask one more time. Ll would I be crazy to pick up a players such as Austin miles, sanders Kenyan Drake Nick Chub, or even Josh Jacobs with the late first round, pick somewhere between eight and twelve over those wide receivers in. I'm not crazy about picking a wide receiver in the first round besides Michael Thomas. Point, where if I pick it the back into run, I WANNA, go running back running. I guess. I wasn't Jay one of those receivers. When wouldn't you go running back running back then? I'm almost at that point Thomas in. Heath. What did you say I'm sorry? I want one of those if Adams is there I'm not taking any of those running backs over men PR. I'm in a fourteen team draft right after this we record this which will be done when this is released, and we have the eighth pick, and so we won't pay again until twenty first and being Christopher draft together. We're talking about taking out centers eight. Because in that format. We don't really feel comfortable getting out of the running back at twenty, one necessarily. And you know if we have DJ more there. We'll take Dj more there, but we're probably going to start sanders I. Think you can do it. Yeah, I mean it just depends. There's no chance that your team does not start with Mile Sanders Dj born Aj Brown you realize that. There's no, it's definitely wrong. I mean what could just nothing's GonNa go wrong. No, it might not start with DJ more. Am I trying to get more than third? We'll what I'd like to see the fight. That would ensue. I don't know if Chris is still as passionate about David Johnson, but because running back, they're going to go so heavy in that draft. If at twenty one you're fighting these. David Johnson. It'd be. Never I could never live with David David Johnson in the second round. What if he's there in the fourth round and this fourteen team league? David Johnson will not be in their fourth round of I. Don't think it'll be I would consider them there yet. I took Melvin down recently. Good show guys, thank you very much tight end Daza Taylor will be there in the fourth round. That's you guys know already all draft, plan. Stafford. Guess the consensus top five at tight end. Kelsey kill. Waller Wall. No sorry, Andrews Earth's Waller. That's my guess, Heath and I. Both Have Andrews over Italy. Yeah Kelsey kittle Andrews. Earth's Waller am I, right? It's Kelsey Kendall. Earth's Andrews Waller dammit. Oh well over Andrews and the consensus, even though the two of us have over. Dave must have Andrews Fifth. Point. or Or the rankings. It's now. He's got Andrew Forth Worth whatever it doesn't matter. We'll talk about the raiders. It's not the Ravens. I guys. Thanks a great show. Appreciate everybody, a nice apple podcasts view senator emails fantasy football CBS, Dot com tight ends on Thursday mailbag on Friday join our watch our youtube channel join our facebook page, and for Heath for Ben for Jamie I'm Adam. When everybody talked to you on Thursday.

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joined as always my co host and my co danny the here here we need and the analyst we deserve the dark knight himself daddy kelly how're you doing man i'm doing so well how are you doing so well well so like timmy's trapped in a well well i mean i'm doing pretty well also joined by craig rollback what is on your mind craig tacoma first gold this weekend film great well yeah we're we're gonna get into that because this is probably the funniest sleeper first week that i could have let's let's let's let's save that for later we'll push you a little later push further down the table right now let's jump into the one of the week which what made you go what this week looking at the top of the leaderboard fantasy football point scores i p p r this week this is not a homer thing but i see two seahawks at the very top which is pretty strange for me russell wilson and tyler lockett number two number one and number two i think is wilson number two so that to me was shocking rosen best quarterback in football also most fun player player that's not always how it goes i mean mahomes obviously was last year MVP and most fun player but sometimes matt ryan is the MVP not the most player it's always fun when the best is player is also the most valuable so i thought i thought that was pretty fitting because i think that russell wilson's play just in general was sort of his i guess submitting his status in the MVP race i think that's gonna be very very tough for him to keep kinda download dr stretch but that was an MVP type type performance it's giving him a shot at QB one honors overall this year i've seen as tough competition from watson lamar jackson but he's he's just blown out and tyler lockett is emerging as one of the best receivers NFL as well he's been a low wide receiver one this season he was if you remember prior prior to this season a lot of people talk about it was very logical as a prime regression candid that he had more touchdowns then he probably should have based on his catches in yards ars and all that but he has just continued on with absurd efficiency and he and russell wilson have almost like a magical connection on the field it's actually kinda crazy i saw this stat from NFL dot com grand barfield today russell wilson lock it formed the NFL's most efficient dual last year completing twenty point point one percent of passes above expectations that's based on difficulty location the bass all that location of the defender and everything like that so oh this year they are also i again plus seventeen point nights not quite to the level of last year but close and also just tops the NFL again so so those who haven't insane connection we seen in every week lock had a huge game against the buccaneers and i thought it was also fun to see decay mccaffrey out the offense is suddenly very very interesting fantasy wise and going forward i think it could continue to be pretty fantasy like productive in terms of you know i always think of the receivers and seahawks passing game is sort of low volume the seahawks never really unleashed russell wilson to the extent that we want them to but going forward i think the combination of seattle having a bad defense terrible kicking game could mean and that they have to get into like game where they really really rely on russell's nail a very difficult schedule down the stretch at the forty niners at the eagles versus the vikings at the rams at the panthers versus cardinals in verses forty niners so it's one of the toughest if not the toughest closing schedule which means i think seattle's not going really be able to play their game that they wanna play i think they're going to have to really rely on russell wilson like we saw against the buccaneers and that could be very good fantasy purposes so long story short i'm excited about what decay mcafee do i'm excited about locket and russell wilson is an outside shot at overall why QB one honors this year seahawks niners on monday full next week is the game of the year as far as i'm concerned it can be fun it's the best game at least so far for sure and i think russell wilson running around like it's recess just after school in trying to make stuff happen around nick bosa no so richard sherman roaming around trying to pick them off that is the level of football the narratives going that is just the absolute best thing and as lock it reminds me of aaron rodgers and peaked jordy nelson i have no idea how good tyler lockett would be in another team but it doesn't matter because as long as he's with russell so wilson the wilson lock it connection is as good as anyone in football yeah i mean i think lock it is a really good player but i agree with you that they have sort of just this connection or wilson always knows where he's going to be at any given time they they're very very good out of structure that's wilson's kinda game his whole careers making plays out of structure and every time wilson breaks pocket i'm like oh he's gonna he's gonna hook it deep deep to lock it in you know more often than not that's the case so yeah it's just it's it's fun to watch i you know my my hatred for the seahawks in general remains just because they make love hatred well they make everything as completely hard as possible in a lot about your coach for someone who has coach who literally crafted the USC dynasty came to the NFL got two super bowls one one fill like you don't i don't know i feel like there's twenty seven teams that would be like wow i would love to have be carol hey look i i'm i'm clear eyed about sort of the about the the difficulty in rooting for the seahawks because on one hand and how people can be annoyed at the fans for complaining because on one hand you the seahawks have had an incredible run of success since pete carroll got here i mean it's their best franchise you're supposed to the rest rosters ever the they got their super bowl win you know it's awesome it's been a really fun ride with the same time it's it's really really hard to shake the idea that they're completely holding russell wilson back to so it's like it's good ed but it also could be so much better it's such a weird sort of i don't know like hard thing to figure out but the other thing is is just like the seahawks of the p. carol l. era just excruciating to watch every single week just from the philosophically and how they approach everything it's got to be as hard as possible every week well this week went well for are you guys did not go so well for everyone else so let's get into some injuries and some states and potential replacements first up i think the big news of the early slate of games names at least what looked like it was jacoby perset from the apples colts he injured his the in the second quarter and did not return had an mariah monday confirmed as an mc l. strain after the came i'm frank reich the celtic coach said it was probably mc l. ish which okay i've never heard an mc l. s. as a diagnosis but it turns out he was right it is it mc l. in the game sealing percent could've turned he was jogging around but right decided he wasn't going to send them back in the fact that that was even on the table suggests it's not the bad he might might be able to come back this weekend's the dolphins but in his absence brian hoyer the other patriots backup remember seventeen to twenty six passes for one hundred sixty eight yards and three touchdowns including a touchdown at his first pass in the game also through a pick six and lost a fumble so it was like you know we all know about the ups and downs brian hoyer the experience not really it's crazy that we're in a league right now with matt moore starting brian hoyer ryan patrick if at twenty twelve now i love it all like probably going to be weirdly decent do you guys think you could pass a sparkle tests and mike can you name everybody who started a game a quarterback this year ooh that missing one oh oh man should kick cut that and then make that and anyway the point is if you're in a two quarterback league one quickly do not add brian hoyer under any circumstances yeah but if you wanted to quarterback league you should probably have brian horror because they played the dolphins and there's a lot of is this week so i just think the culture is such a well coached team and and we've seen over the last two years frank reich can scheme up you know advantageous situations for his quarterback regarding not not regardless civilians but even when he has a backup akhavan there even as and this is the third string guy technically speaking if you count luck yeah i have confidence that they can kind of scheme of things to get decent numbers i from quarterback so who is her and who has helped from this injury does anybody who stock go up or down well so the other this happens in conjunction with TY hilton hilton is out for three three to four weeks as well so he aggravated injury and i mean there's a number of colts that are on the able to benefit from hilton's absences act passed i think stepped up we're a lot of people thought paris campbell woods zach pasco is a great one but overall me for set's not game dolphins is worse so i think i think i think campbell is an interesting one though because they they schemed up ways to get him involved in this last game he hasn't fumbled twice yeah too so that was not ideal clearly but you know they were getting him getting the ball and they seem to be working towards that so maybe his role will expand going forward not one thing to monitor not a fan of rookies with ball security issues other players got some injuries this week levy on bell on the jets getting an MRI this is not a ton of information on this year head coach adam gay says he did not know how serious injury was yeah if bell mrs anytime time montgomery's like the only other running back on that team is getting stamps of any significance he was the receiver at the packers changed running back played pretty well hurt his ribs got some other injuries lost his job became kick returner fumbled and talk about that was exiled to baltimore for a future conditional seventh which is the NFL version of sending someone to say the area the island of elba yeah and then ended up on the jets and now he might be a starting running back to the jetsons it looks really good in the preseason time gummer he's been good i feel like he can have like what jalen samuels does on the steelers o. the energy to getting very versatile guy because of the receiving so i mean he can absolutely hand at a worthy pickup overqualified backup so if that's if bell oh mrs time but we're recording this monday afternoon we don't know bill's going to miss time so don't operate on the assumption but duffy check out what happened is that mariah never person adam field on the vikings the honoree aggravated a hamstring injury first quarter the vikings lost to the chiefs they lost twenty six twenty three ceiling did not come back same enter the kept feeling of last week so we'll see how they handle that hamstring injury going forward but obviously hamstrings are famous for lingering and also just bad for people who rely on speed hammers are the worst when it comes to i think receivers in in particular corners because you're exploding out of your stance and everything like that just seems like the easiest injury to reiterate every time so i've which is a injuries or tough yeah mitchell a play it safe with him the action item here if you are desperate for receiver help call on treadmill actually kinda china's stepped up and and you know emerged as the go-to guy at least in this game you got three or five targets for fifty eight yards BC johnson is another guy in this offense that's that's kind of filled in when when when feelings out so those are two guys you can check out on the waiver wire i'm not super excited about either guy yeah no don't pick up other of those guys i said if you're desperate or playing no no go down don't put someone in your bye week before you pick up the corn treadwell just eat the loss the lung guy cared deeply about our listeners and if a single one of our listeners picks up the koran treadwell and plays the quantrill will i will feel it in my heart like a disturbance vincent force i'm going to be watching treadwell closer than anyone this he's not a couple of quantum will to sean jackson the eagles to sean jackson so he came back so he for the first time he started a game since week to eat just been gone he's had this abdominal injury plays this this week plays four snaps leaves the game and is now having surged repair record muscle injury and made up late in the season so a rollercoaster of emotions for i mean to sean jackson eagles fans and people who have sean jackson fantasy just an absolute roller coaster so there's not a one to one replacement for him i mean his instagram handle does happen to be one of one side but nelson egg laura is still dropping stuff and still i'm not getting tested catches but the whole thing sean is he's the speed element vertical and then opens things up horizontal they don't really have someone who can do that so i think it lowers the boat vote for everyone who's offense except arts this is good firts the say if anything it to me it's a small bonus to people who are hoping for god our continued breakout obviously recy- guttered and do all this weekend but he has looked good over last month and with jackson out it means i think the gia that the eagles one running their twelve personnel to their two tight end sets lot more often and that could mean excuse me that can really good things got her craig any thoughts do you want to get your gloating in about how you wanted to do zachary that kind of forced you to gutter and then zakar it's had a great game i just want to recommend you both that when my spidey senses tingling to adhere to what i'm saying i i will give you credit for the melvin gordon contrary and pick on friday thank you very much lately paid off and also justified us having like a seven or eight minute rant about the los angeles chargers in that started with you kind of going against my pick and then by the end being like you know what actually pretty good pick i like it i go thanks cutting time you can convince danny of anything i think it's also sean jackson his first game this technically only game he had thirty one points i wonder if that's the most ever for a guy who just play one game in a season personality we're seeing will willfuller we'll fuller's probably on that list other injuries preston ashton williams on the dolphins blooms tours ACL in the fourth quarter of the games carted off devante parker season for craig speaking on a roll now these guys devante parker season baby i also wonder if it means anything for albert wilson because he was a guy that a lot of people were excited about prior to this season he's like a golden tate hates style yards after the catch you know explosive creator you know in the open field type guy and he hasn't done anything i mean he had a he had a hip injury early on the season is it miss winter games in ever since he's returned he hasn't really done anything so also mike you sixty having a big guy six has ninety five yards does that turn anything in this tight end deplete world we're living in no maybe maybe no no no who just going forward jordan eakins mica sixty they probably take neither there has to be someone else there's not only literally has to be last up a new segment for this yeah right here don't fucking bother dolphins mark walton starting running back post kenyan drake in miami suspended for four games do what we could tell you who's gonna be the backup in miami now you don't worry about it don't wait a minute this dolphins don't bother with the dolphins running backs don't bother really with the miami dolphins as a whole we like devante parker but that's an exception don't bother all right now we're going to buy as inspired by instinct could play this song or is that like a copy problem i'm gonna say that's probably massive copies you can you do this song can you imitate it i'm only singing once a year and it was the golladay which i did not cut no would sing singing by us no i can't do it i'm not doing it but you know whatever the boy's sixteen on buying we tend it's the most of the season denver patriots philadelphia washington jackson houston tees v the fantasy players we're not playing this week that's brutal yeah the top twelve quarterbacks shawn watson tom brady carson wentz garner mint you you for the top twenty running backs and six of the top thirty fornet philip lindsay jordan howard james whites-only michelle royce freeman three of the top ten receivers and five of the top twenty receivers hopkins eshelman chart coralline sudden maclaurin and to the top tight ends two top ten times i should say urging fells else and so yeah teams are hurting this week it's going to be brutal yes so we just wanna list because there's so many frickin people out this week just won't go roll oh through some people that you can stream like these are guys that you can stream like this week if need be she really have to pick someone up and slaughtermen so deka one roll through we're just gonna roll his off all right jalen samuels the steelers fifty nine forty nine percent owned so it's not necessarily a low number but if he's out there waivers he's worth grab obviously with james connors availability of in question you know he may this is going to be kind of like a game time decision but if connor is back than samuels isn't really worth it but if if cars out still we saw last week he had thirteen catches he's very very valuable NPR leaks particularly also like ronald jones a lot this week roggio aw he's only thirty eight point six forty percent that might be sticking point later in this episode rosia agent cares for sixty seven yards and a touchdown last week at this week sunday when last week becomes this week but two catches for fifteen yards boxer playing the cardinals this week is better than peyton barber now he's getting we're touches and peyton barber cardinals are good match-up i mean you could do a lot worse for someone on waivers going right into your line at the ronald jones and that's really all you can ask for us you could do a lot worse when you're starting someone that was on waivers and the last one this is the opposite which is you could probably you might not be able to do worse is but if you're really really desperate gus edwards my guy in the baltimore ravens who is owned in fewer than three percent of leaks gusts the bus gus the bus wow yes thank you guests the bus goes to the bus going against the cincinnati bengals and this is really if you're desperate but baltimore could get up so early in this game that they sit mark ingram and they could give gus edwards words like fifteen second-half gary's he rushing touchdown this last night against the patriots seat market grim had a like a fifty three yard run or so and then but he didn't get there so that they i put gusta bus in a twelve yard run immediately after for a touchdown so he is the guy spells he's getting like decent carries not if ingram place but ingram's older like they wanna preserve if they're we're up four touchdowns at halftime there's a world will go said what's actually does very well in this game and again really if you're desperate cuss edwards is one of the few handcuffs in the league where i think it's worth owning him even if you don't have mark ingram maybe alexander madison is in that category as well where if you have the room on your roster you're never never gonna play him unless a marking delve and cook it hurt but i don't think you should drop because edwards all year i if you're league is ten teams is probably not worth owning twelve maybe twelve hundred percent he's got playoff altering upside if ingram gets hurt that's actually win your league who else is on that list is free of of handcuffs 'cause there's guys like if they get hurt are not going to be replaced by one person and then there's guys like madison in placing facing w bush and get like sixty borderline seventy percent of snaps maybe maybe like reich well armstead yeah i have him in a couple of weeks i think i think as as much as we slander rashad penny i think he would get the bulk of the carries in seattle if chris carson where get injured plus he also key he's back to fumbling again so yeah tony any pollard i dunno yeah paul goodwin i just so shot pet he's been so fricking durable that man i think it's madison gus edwards though at the time what's the what what about reggie bonifant carolina 'cause he's a fun i asked six percent of snaps and carolina all right couple receivers so many people are on by i mean as decommissioned the andre hopkins juliette cattleman shark like portland suddenly a lot of top twenty guys devante parker parker craig's guy who we mentioned saver parker's owned like less than a quarter of leagues in deck pascal's owned in like less than three so those are pretty good options considering TY hilton's out in indianapolis and then you've got press williams out miami like press williams top ten top eleven yards and that's just not on the team anymore so those guys are both essentially number ones in their team now defunct they parkers a top twelve or see from the last month he's the water zebra thirty four this whole year he's been a wide receiver the three and again he sucked the first one i suck he was not getting the ball in the first three so it's more like he's been top eighty in september and then top fifteen in october october so with with fits magic under center though like you just never really know they can sometimes the the dolphins offense can actually like move the ball and stuff so either it's tragic magic but there's no it's average yeah that's true all right let's get into some categories but i first 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against a really good defense too so i think he looks really really good i don't know if this is necessarily the things are an indication of things to come but if he has the main role in arizona i i think he's gonna be a big time fantasy factor going forward now the question is kind of what what the deal with johnson and edmonds is going forward but if drake emerges as the number one i like him a lot i don't think the talent was deceiving i thought that it was if anything was a reminder of the difference between going from a awful designed offense to really well one was like oh oh my god can enjoy i think that the deceiving part is that touches to fifteen rushes i if chase edmunds chase edmunds and david david johnson of injuries that i think will get better over time but they won't be fully healed and that's like the worst kind of no man's land where everyone's going to get like a third yeah if anything anything that's just muddies the water for everybody yeah it makes it worse like for the whole the tide is now lowering all the boats now that works i've never really that one because the tied to that the other thing to know is there playing buchan ears next week who is notorious past final defense good very very good run defense allowed teams to struggle against them though i will say chris carson did pick up one hundred and five from now on sunday so how large run right right where he wanted people and then he fumbled at the end and then he fumbled at the i think yeah so like bottom line drake looks awesome that offense he is still not trustworthy as we just don't know you know the it's kinda like the detroit situation where we just don't know who the actual starter is gonna be yet so it'll be something selena monitor but i saw he looked really sell high do you guys wanna play quick name game with kenyan drake along for sure would you rather have kenyan drake or single terry single terry oh my god single terry can think drake is a perfect season long so high i think dynasty wise if you have money eighteen that's kind of a nice nice landing given devil double tear doubled down a devil single tear kenyan drake or matt brita and those are similar situations have very similar i'm just gonna cut it in my deceiving yards because that's actually what i was going to talk about as rita and go so i'm just going got to pivot to what i was gonna say what i always do anyway aaron jones and seven coleman week l. at the hell happened with aaron jones eighty combined home aaron jones had thirty three touches for three hundred forty four yards six touchdowns seven seventy nine point four eighty eighty points this week combine us twenty three touches sixty five yards no scores benign it was the worst night and a half points combined i think aaron jones is having a deceiving season i think if he has a a great rest of twenty nineteen and he becomes like a late first early second round draft pick next year he's gonna screw everybody i think this is i don't i think this is fool's gold as an entire year fair joe so well there's there's too i think the deceiving part of last week was it last week was confusing when they shredded the chiefs because the packers show two things in that one what was deceiving was how much of the usage aaron jones had to massive games this year right one was without jamal williams when williams was hurt and jones went off four touchdown game yet but they yeah yeah the four touchdown game but they didn't actually change the snap count usage of them when jamal williams came back so on that one that was like the best game the packers overall rushing offense could have had and then aaron jones just had all of it which was not a novel which was an aberration because you're williams is still has a pretty good amount of the russian game a similar thing happened last week where aaron jones just happen to get so much of the stuff against kansas city and the opportunity but it was real was that was the first game aaron rogers ever ever had three passing touchdowns two running backs two went to aaron jones and one went to jim williams that part's real i do think the running backs are more more involved in the passing game than ever before in green bay the deceiving part is it's not always gonna be predictable that who that goes to in this game and liam's jamal williams had a ten to carries aries for ten yards on the ground but had six catches for thirty nine yards and a touchdown so that's that's a decent salvageable flex blades way more than jones got so i think on that one it's actually more of the classic split where jones gets sixty percent of the work williams gets forty and you just gotta gotta hope they don't drop the ball like did against the chargers against representative coleman it's completely different in that he's the lead back but they're running so much that you don't know who's necessarily going to be getting the opportunity in all those guys are dinged up that we don't always know how healthy are some of them so it's hard to predict which of them are going to eat this week but coleman still going to be the best bet breed read it but they run so much they lead the league in rushing that brita even if he's the second guy and that totem pole blind coleman is still pretty good bet so to wrap apple the way back down on craig's question i'd rather have mapped read than kenyan drake because i know that kyle shanahan wants to lead the league in rushing every week cliff kingsbury is berry just wants to pass the put a point so i don't think cliff kingsbury is committed to like enough rushing that he can feed two or three running backs but the forty niners can the bottom line though is you just can't take aaron jones or coleman out of your starting lineup got on your team right oh well no absolutely not right ah so as deceiving this week was or or not you just can't take him out of your lineup oh no i hope i think if there's an overarching points that it's going to be in the middle between these two these are both actually pretty extreme outcomes on either end got jacob hollister the tight end of your beloved ciocci had a big week at two touchdowns and i think any tight end now scoring two touchdowns just worth talking about because tied into so bleak he had six targets this week he played a season high fifty nine snaps she's only played three games this year and their other title and luke wilson only seventeen and the week before was essentially the opposite luke wilson play double what hollister did so i don't know i mean george it'll just got hurt who knows what's going on with him i mean with with tight end so bleak is jacob hollister the former i believe patriot yeah things one percent owned is he the new will disagree i think it's worth if you have a ross by they i don't care about it's a spectacular that at this point the one thing i do worry a little bit about is the seahawks just activated at dixon so there's another tight end in the you know in the in the picture at least we don't exactly know how it is how it's all gonna play out but i also wanted to mention josh gordon is now gonna play monday night it looks like for or the seahawks forgot to talk about that too yeah josh gordon seahawk yeah how do you feel about that i think it's great i mean i'm excited about it i think it's very very strange how the patriots not only dropped him but then no other teams in the NFL put away reclaim on him all that feels very like we're not getting the whole story kind of thing but i mean i don't know you yet i like his his style fits issac style perfectly remains exactly the same decay metcalf in the sense that he can get deep at the size russell wilson's really really good of those sideline passes jim put in a perfect spot i mean you could make the argument he's the best receiver on the team no why not i don't know because he had not current data than with tyler lockett or decay metcalf did this week in four years and he had sixteen games games to play at one if you look at the seasons where he's had sixteen games he's the most overqualified fourth receiver maybe an NFL history i'll give you that i think the arguments there regardless i think it'll be very interesting to see how it all pans out and i'm just like i said i think he's a perfect fit for the wanna do on offense and so you know there's some definite potential chill there that related to hollister you know i just don't trust the seahawks volume wise too heavily target their tight end if they've they've got lock it decays really off right now and then also getting josh gordon vol i just i don't know if the volume would be their weak to trust the guy like that but like you said the title positions nations very grim right now so might just be worth a speculative add seattle goes okay so kenyan drake touches deceiving aaron judge seven coleman each of the last two weeks were deceiving jacob hollister the entire tight end position is deceived us great let's get into the guy you're not supposed to worry about people coming for people's jobs use deka who's the guy you're not supposed to worry about we're all kind of excited i think about what ty johnson could do when the lions portray carson i are kinda look like johnson would get another crack at the lead back duties in detroit he ended up actually kind of being the lead guy got t- my nine russia's but he only picked up twenty nine yards added added three catches for seven yards and six point six points mckissick JD mckissick meanwhile was the guy that we weren't supposed to worry about he got he technically got the start and then he got four areas thirty two yards three catches for forty yards score scored sixteen point two PR points was does i guess the more valuable clearly the more valuable guy to have in your fantasy roster this week in potentially going forward he could be but the bottom line is i don't really trust either at this point i just kind of like the dolphins situation just like don't bother with either these guys because it's a dice dice roll whether you know who which guy is going to be like more involved i just i just would probably go elsewhere with these two craig you got someone not supposed to worry about yeah i mean i just wanted to talk about muhammed sununu the new who got traded to the patriots two weeks ago this was the second game but i consider th