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Ep80 Being Authentically Authentic, A Key to Happiness

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48:15 min | 2 years ago

Ep80 Being Authentically Authentic, A Key to Happiness

"Uh. Everybody thank you for tuning into episode eighty of the virtual couch. I'm your host Tony over. I'm a licensed marriage family therapist, certified lab coach writer, speaker husband, father, four ultra marathon runner in creator of the path back and online pornography addiction recovery program that is helping people reclaim their lives from pornography, diction, if you or anyone that you know is struggling with pornography diction. Please point them to pass back recovery dot com. There you can download a short e book that describes five and mistakes that people make when trying to overcome pornography addiction. Again, that is path back recovery dot com. And I was doing all I could write into try to stifle a hiccup. I thought I took care of those. I've been trying to record for about five minutes and in the hiccups tried like the swallowing, the water and that sort of thing. So forgive me, I'm gonna leave him in because that's gonna go right along today with part of what the the topic of the podcast is episode eighty. I mean, welcome to the eighties. Now we're talking. This is my decade. This is when I grew up. Let me let me see what I can kinda pull off my top. Ahead here. We've got eighties hair bands. What leg warmers, new wave music is odd shirts. MTV phrases gagging with a spoon tubular. We had after school specials, the walkman break dancing, always my favorite jokes about whenever we're throwing out cardboard at our house. My wife always asked my wife. Do we keep enough cardboard for my break dancing? What else was was teddy wreck spin? Awesome. Or was he creepy mix tapes, long phone cords, trapper keepers and don't forget the be kind rewind actually. So how many of you who grew up in eighties have had that experience as your kid. Now benches on all ten episodes of something, stranger things in one setting of even remotely, trying to describe what life was like with the three or the four channels and VHS cassettes and having a fast forward or rewind like for real, only to see your kids eyes gloss over as they tell you they're bored while they're scrolling through Instagram with one ear, but in and all the while being aware enough that if a sibling runs by they. In triple yet. I digress. So welcome to episode eighty and super-quick as always thanks for the continued support and feedback head over to Tonio dot com. Sign up to receive more info, upcoming programs podcast, and all that good stuff in on Instagram, virtual couch, and I wanna let you know that I did an interview last week with Heidi Linford. She is from the joyful soul project. That's the name of her podcast. Go find Heidi's podcast and subscribe. I think, well, I think I will link to it in the show notes and I'm excited for that interview air, but I think it's going to be a couple of weeks, but I know I think last week she had on friend of the podcast Jody more. So she's Heidi's had some really good interviews there, but we covered everything. I mean, I really, I love the ones where I get to be interviewed on someone else's podcast because typically they can kind of get me going on number of topics. So we covered marriage. We covered parenting, covered, pornography, diction. We cover betrayal, trauma intimacy, you name it. She brought it out into me and I'm excited for you to hear that. So where I wanna go today. I wanna talk about one of the questions that I get asked the most, and here is what typically sounds like it's not very complicated actually. But the question is that I mentioned, I often mentioned the phrase being authentic, but what does that actually mean is that just a therapy buzzword being thin and it comes up into my practice often too. So I'm gonna tell a few stories today are member few years ago that I was asking somebody where was that they felt like they could truly be authentic. And I meant this in this situation as a place to kind of build from, I was trying to find a place where we can say, okay, here's here's something. Here's where we can start raising your motion baseline. Where do you feel like you're being the most offensive and the person kind of froze. And it was one of the situations where therapy often say, you know, never ask the question that that you don't know the answer to k super funny example this to me, I guess as I had a couple in once and the the wife looked over to me and asked me, you know, actually had to do. I've mentioned hiccups earlier, but had to do with, I think, kinda burping or something. And. She said, all you, my husband will Burr or something in front of the kids, and they gig on they laugh and she looks over. I mean, you've never done that right, and I just thought, oh, okay. Talk about needing to be authentic here. It was kind of like, kinda, have, you know, so have to say that. And then I felt like it kind of lost her at that moment. And I like the guy kind of just had that little smile on his face or something, but here's the part where with this, this person I'm talking about in particular, and by the way, I'm not saying that I sit here and I- belts during therapy, that's not the point. Although watch this tangent fun fact, I was a share. This was somebody last week. One of the things that I never saw coming in therapy, and I don't know if it's just because people get in here and they are just they are just talking. They talk and they talk and they talk and maybe they're not used to talking that much, but I will tell you once or twice a week, probably it's probably not as dramatic as I think, but you just got somebody who's talking and talking and then can outcomes a little bit of a burp. They didn't see come in, they say, excuse me. And now having done this for so long. I, you know, I often want to say perfectly normal. People do it all the time in my office. But again, it's not like I'm sitting here doing burp. Therapy or something like that. But in this situation though, with this guy, I'm saying, all right. Tell me about this time that you were thick and I'm ready for him to just give me something that we can work with, and then he kind of, again, this this look that I just knew we. He wasn't necessarily going into a good place in his head. He was in a marriage. It wasn't happy. He wasn't happy with this parenting style. He was in a career where he felt like he wasn't necessarily engaged. You're struggling with this faith turned on healthy behaviors to cope. So they're all these feelings of disconnect. And it just really didn't go where I hoped it would go. And I remember that again, it was two or three years ago, and it was one of the times where I started thinking about how how Athetic are, was I at the time or how Antic are people in my family or and I really started trying to work more toward helping people find out who their offense itself was. And it kind of reminded me why I had left my first queer in the software industry because at that time I felt like I wasn't being allowed to be a thick and I was young. I didn't have the skills or the knowledge of that. Time to feel like I could do anything about it. I mean, look back on it now and of course I could, but I remember working for company once where we would attend meetings and we were fairly small company and whoever we were meeting with would maybe ask us at some point how big company. And I learned quickly that I can say anything. I mean, I knew I knew exactly how many people pulled into the parking lot at work, and but depending on who we were talking to, maybe the higher ups at the company would say that phrases like, oh, we're under fifty employees, which technically was true. But sometimes I mean, we were about forty two or forty three employees under fifty, or they asked what we are sales. Sometimes we would say we were under fifty million are we were under ten million again, technically correct, but we were way under fifty or way under ten and I understand where they, you know what the person was trying to do with that. But I remember when I left that particular company and I started my own very first dive into working for myself. I remember typing up my initial linked in profile, and I think it might even had it on my about page of of that. The first website that I that I made, but I went overboard about being honest. Or in this case it was being offended. I talked about, you know, being able to leave the daily rat race of the corporate grind and being able to be honest about the things that I did and the products I made. And if I felt like they were, they were something that my customers need it or not. And I saw these hard-drive duplicates sounds exciting, right? They literally take one hard-drive and copy the data to another and they did so in a way that in the hard drive could be used in a police. Forensic examination could be in court and maintain this chain of evidence and all this kind of fun stuff. But remember taking calls early on where I felt like if somebody was going to be buying my duplicator and it would be overkill, then I would tell them and I would point customers to products or solutions that would do the job for much much less and I felt good about that and I was possibly missing a sale. But the the funny thing was that many of these customers within kind of be surprised that I was telling them that my solution was too expensive and super ironic thing was that often lead to a sale because of my honesty. So kind of funny. Right. But the key was at that time I. Felt like I was being offended. So how often do you run across somebody who becomes a totally different person depending on where they are or who they're with, whoever's in front of him, the crowd that they're running with in front of you there? Positive in kind. But you know, when somebody else comes in the room, then all of a sudden they are. They might be a little bit cold or or maybe it's the opposite where front you. They kind of act like disengaged within when somebody else comes in the room, then they're excited. I hesitated on telling this story, but it's such a positive story. I had a friend once attend a wedding where the senior David Archer was guest. And if you remember him is his rendition of imagine on American idol. I think about often it was amazing, but seems like the nicest guy in the world. Right? So then I'm just joking around with my friend. I was like, okay, hey, that wedding, tell me what he was like. Right. And I was I was telling him on David, you know, when he's not in cameras, telling the wait staff to fetch me this that or his trip and little kids when they run by what's really like. And my buddy said, oh, no. Oh, no. He says, smiling, taking pictures with everybody, approaches them. He's thinking them for for listening to his music, and apparently at this particular event, something gone south at one point with some planning delivery your, I forget what the details were, but he said he's like, get this who was the first guy you know, in the kitchen or doing dishes, or who was the first guy to jump in Bonn tier where he wasn't needed. David, arch Aleta. He was rolling up the sleeves and volunteering. So guess what? He was being authentic, what you saw him, whether you saw him on American idol or an interview was what you got, and I have to tell you right now, I'm working with somebody who one would consider maybe as a fairly big deal and I joked with him or her soon. I'm doing there with confidentiality that was gonna out them as being awesome. Not really because again, that would break confidentiality, but he or she was telling me that they're being there. Thank self was something they had to kind of choose a few years ago, and there was so much easier in the long run and trying to be somebody that they weren't in. Particular industry, they, there are tons of people who are being people that they aren't really being that they aren't being this person said that he or she said that they were aware that they may have actually missed out on an opportunity or two because of being. So thank or passing on things that they didn't feel were right for them or even kind of standing up a little bit for some of the things that they believed, but they felt like they were being totally honest. And at the end of the day, they talked about just feeling unburdened from from not being in the past. That was a pause. I think it'll take out that was that was kind of holding back hiccup, she'll let them go, and it's easier to to feel like you can stand up for yourself or gently correct others when you know that you're being true to yourself. So here's what I mean by that. Let me give you an example. I have. I have a client. I just, I love this client to death. And this client at one point came in and said it said something like their hair look nice or something. And I'm horrible about that. I mean, I trying to be more observant. I don't notice those things as much. I'm so grateful that my own wife puts like hair appointment things on the calendar. I always give calendar glance, so I will know she's getting her haircut on this particular day. So when it come home, I will say, oh my gosh, your hair looks amazing, but I'm being off indigo. I really do because my wife is beautiful and she'd ever hear long or short or curly, or as you shave her head, whatever they can look great. But I remember it. I actually think I do notice it now more. But at that time I felt like, you know. I'm noticing that date on the calendar help. We know that she's got her haircut anyway. I was going off on a tangent there. This particular person said, I say, your hair looks nice. 'cause I knew I could tell it was different, and this person said to me say, oh, that's really nice. If you didn't notice because mandate, you know a few weeks ago, you said how much you hated my hair and I was like, what you know we what would what did inch like you said, I hate the way your hair looks, and that's the part where I know here's me being offenses, this is the beauty of being fintech. There is I do not tease people about physical appearances. I don't make negative comments about physical appearances because I know that those things can hurt. I might make a joke about a situation that someone might be in, but I'm never gonna, say, man, look at that belly, right? Or, hey, how about those love handles now might do that to myself because currently, right now I am working on my love handles as far as like increasing them. I would like to be decreasing them, but I grew up a guy that was losing his hair at the age of seventeen eighteen. I, I used to pull my bangs up. And we would all laugh all the cow high Tony's hair forehead is and at the time I laughed because I didn't know that meant that. Oh yeah. Give me about a year. And then moment hair's gone, but not a big tall guy teased about my height, teased about my hair, that sort of thing. So I grew up not wanting to tease people about their physical traits. So here's somebody telling me, you told me, you hate it my hair. The funny thing too is, and I'm feeling this right now. I don't even say the word hate with my little kids that was always the h word, right? I would say we don't like something but not, hey, so this woman says, you told me specifically that you hate my hair. So I know the authentic says that those are things that I do not say do not do so in that situation, although I have to tell you, I had to model this empathetic response, this motion focused there be this EFT so preach. I wanna to tell this person you're wrong that you're completely wrong. That is not what I said. I had to sit there and go. Okay. Tell me more. Tell me what you remember about that or what you think. And then they said, you said, you hated my hair this day and it's like me and I am so sorry. Put you in the spot where you felt like that's what I said, and that was able to share my truth, right? I was able to say, man, I feel like that's that's so hard for me to hear because then I was able to to share that, you know, accused some violin music and from the time I was a child, I didn't pick on people's air that sort of thing. But anyway, I I knew that I was, I knew the thick meat doesn't say those things. And so I was able to kinda creek that a little bit you when I work with clients who were involved in relationships, for example, on the same note, if they're working with somebody who might be have personalities order, let's take a narcissist. For example, something I get so many emails about after the episode did on narcissism. So I'm teaching them how to disengage from a lot of experts simply call the crazy making conversations are being gas lit. These are the conversations were my client might say to their partner, worried that we aren't doing all we can't as parents and rather than having an empathetic response from a partner like, oh, man, tell me, tell me more about that. Tell me where that's coming from. Tell me about your day. What's going on there where you thinking that way. Let's figure this out. They get a response like, well. Kind of waiting for you to say that because honestly, if you get your act together, then maybe they wouldn't be doing what they're doing now, because you know, it's not me because I don't let them get away with that stuff. Yeah, or something like that to that effect, which if you've been in one of those conversations you already know at that point, it's not going to go well. So I do work with clients who were trying to learn how to disengage. So at that point, if they know that a conversations and going to be productive than they learn how to kind of step back and not again, not go tit for tat and I go to battle not go get in there bunker and start throwing out insults because we know that's not productive, but where was I going with that. Okay. So when you are truly comfortable with your intensity, then the one time that you may engage in a situation like this is when the narcissist or actually when anyone tries to speak for you or tries to join you in with their beliefs like like I kind of mentioned there before where you utilize hated my hair. Then if you know the authentic, you can speak up for yourself in that situation. Here's an example that will kind of illustrate that. So this is maybe you're talking to somebody and they say, well, you know. We both don't like cats and me while you're literally like wearing a shirt. This says, I love cats. I love every kind of cat. And your job is you run a home for way were kittens, and you have to have a podcast called cats are my life. So if you're thin dick, then you say, oh, no, no, no, I love cats. I mean, I really do. I'm gonna stand up for that one instead of just kind of feeling like, well, I don't know, and I don't want to make them feel silly or anything like that. We're being authentic. We are going to speak up. There is we want to hold their boundaries. So what the authentic person does, however, is it when they are around somebody that they know doesn't like cats than they might say? Yeah, I don't really like either, you know, or when they're in a group of people are all talking bad about cats. They don't say a word, the the person say, you know, I love you guys, but I have to tell you, I love cats. So back to my question, how often do you run across that person who changes they change who they are at every turn? Is that somebody that you're typically drawn to or somebody that you are impressed with? I would. I would. Guess probably not or are you ever that person? And I have to tell you that part of why I love what I do, and part of why I wanted to start the podcast because that I really am beeling like I'm on this journey to being offensive myself and authentic with the things that I've learned in my practice over the last decade. It got to the point where that's where I just felt like I wanted to share enough so that I just desperately wanna help. So just some examples of that, you know, if we look at the world of the and I'm gonna go through a few of these, so, but if you go through the world of pornography, diction, for the most part, we know it's a coping mechanism for people who don't feel connected people who aren't happy with their relationships or their careers, or their health or their parenting styles. And they maybe had early exposure to pornography addiction. So the wiring, the brain becomes a bit set so that whenever they have these uncomfortable feelings, these feelings of inadequacy, these feelings of disconnect when those feelings occur. The brain naturally says, I know what we can do and what we can do. So you don't have to feel the negative feelings that you're feeling. Here's a place that we can go and check out even though immediately after. That person is not going to feel good about themselves the where it was going with this as we know that there's so much good data and evidence around removing the guilt and the toxic shame around addiction. The addict already knows that it's bad. They don't want to be doing the behavior, the data's there in droves and worked with over a thousand men who have this problem, and there is a way to overcome it. There is hope even people who didn't think that there was, but the road to recovery is not paved shame. That's me being offended. I can't back down from that. Addiction is fueled by shame. The addict brain already is convinced that it can't get better. It's tried. So as soon as I let the next person down, this is the attic brain saying that then I can get right back to my addiction. So when I'm working with someone, I begged them to trust me in that there's not going to be the guilt or shame for me. Bring your data. We can work with this day by day. Let's find the victories. Let's find hope there are solutions there. No, you haven't tried everything. And a big piece of that is removing the shame that is part of my story. Now, marriages emotionally focused therapy EFT one of these soapbox items, it's an evidence based method method that works. It creates a framework. To communicate emotionally focused. Their be is about being vulnerable. It's about making these emotional bids. It's about attachment theory issues around attachment growing up or in early relationships where we have tried to be vulnerable. We've tried to be authentic with somebody, but they responded in a way that is felt fixing or judge judgy, and and it shuts us down. So you know, I know that having a partner listen pathetically and not respond with fixing your judgment works. So that is something that is very authentic to me. I often have couples when they come in here brand new and they have been to maybe non evidence evidence-based couples modalities for for couples therapy. Whereas maybe just again, just the reflective listening. Tell me what they said. Tell me what they said. Now you guys have at it that they're, they're still in that mindset. So when I'm trying to say, look, I've got a framework and we want to get to the point where you feel like you can tell your partner, anything where you feel like you can really open up to them emotionally vulnerable and you know you can count on them. They are going to be there for you and they're gonna listen to you. They're gonna. Listen. And say, okay, I know that my spouse did not wake up this morning and how going to hurt the other person. How am I gonna hurt the other spouse? We know that's not what they did. So. So then what they did instead is if they're coming to you with this emotional pain or this emotional bid, we know that we as as as the partner, the spouse, hearing the emotional bid we need to get in that mindset where I care about this person. I wanna know where this is coming from again, they didn't wake up and just think I'm gonna throw the stuff out there and try to hurt me. So I'm gonna, listen with empathy. I'm gonna try to try to understand my partner more kind of going off on a little bit of a tangent there, but my whole point is being, you know, bring me that couples therapy, and I've got this evidence-based modality that I know I feel so thick in me that it works that that will work with that or the nurtured heart parenting. Again, it's evident space rewards, positive. You're not fueling the negative. Sure. You don't celebrate negative behavior. You don't turn your back on it, but you set clear boundaries and natural consequences. And then you look for opportunities to build inner wealth. In your kids or in your spouse or in that's not done by telling them they're an idiot, or do you realize how bad they're blowing, authentic me. Sorry, you can try and convince me that telling someone that you don't like them. We're telling somebody there again, they're blowing it or trying to shame them. We'll work because again, if I'm being thin. Antic. I don't believe that's the case. Now, the truth is we all have moments of in authentically, it can be difficult to maintain being offensive and comfortable situations, sometimes unfamiliar situations, and that is going to take some practice because you might worry that here's the problem. Your real self isn't going to be good enough or procreate for the situation, a hand, or here's a big one that I run into people that fear rejection. You might be around a bunch of people and then you feel less than or you feel like, you know if they're talking about politics or the news of the day, that if you jump in and say, hey, here's my dick self at really watch the news. You know they're going, oh, they're gonna say, we'll get out, you know that. So we fear that rejection. So it caused us not to feel good enough at times. That's a challenge of being benthic. So instead of showing his yourself, you will show up oftentimes as the person that you think that everybody else is gonna like the hard part for me is I'm sitting here working when people on a daily basis that are telling the about the times where somebody around them, maybe somebody in a in a. Work environment. Somebody in a Sunday school class, somebody in even a group exercise class is letting someone know, hey, this is something that's hard for me. Then all of a sudden that you know that person my client says, man, I feel like I can say something that's hard for me to, you know, working on an episode that I'm very, very excited to talk about about working with people who are struggling with faith crisis or faith journeys. I do a lot of lot of Christian counseling and in those situations, you know, there is a real fear of being. I'm somebody who taught an early morning Sunday school class and early morning, similar class for years. And so then one would assume that than I am incredibly knowledgeable in the scriptures or those sort of things, but I'm not. I'm just not. That's my self. So I would sit in the classroom maybe an adult school classroom, and I would have people, you know, will Tony taught seminary for seven years. So I'm sure he'll know everything and I to the point where almost want to not go to some of those classes because I was worried I, we get called on. But then during this journey. To my self. It's like, hey, guess what? I don't have to be someone with a photographic memory. I don't have to be somebody that remembers every story. Good for the person that does seriously. And I mean that like I'm grateful and I wish I at times had that ability, but I don't. And so I'm this. Okay, that's me. So I remember one of the first time if somebody called on the and said, you know, hey, here's this kind of random story from the Old Testament, Tony Utah seminary. Why don't you tell us about it? And I remember saying, oh, I don't remember that one at all. You know, even the instructor at the time thought a, they'll, they thought they could have some fun and a little shame out there that what you taught all those years and you didn't. You don't remember that. I was like, oh, no. Matter of fact, there's not a whole lot. I remember, but I really enjoyed this situation. I love showing, you know, the students I worked with how much I love him. I love showing that they didn't have to be perfect. But thankfully I've got a little device in my hand that I can search for a topic or and then I can. But I can tell you that story gimme a couple seconds. I'm really good at Google and things. There's my self, right? So so when we show up as our selves instead of. Showing up like the person. Everybody else thinks that we think everybody else will like that's part of that journey toward being. So let me get to the meat today's episode and actually really quick. I promise I'll do this fast, but before I do that, let me let me do throw some information here about bloom for women. So let me tell you bloom for women dot com. And they deal specifically with betrayal trauma in if you've heard my podcast before, you know that betrayal Trump is very real. 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I'm pretty good Google in kind of a joke. I think a lot of people are googling, but I found I was looking a little bit more in authentically, and I knew that there's a an author name. Brown and she has written a number of books, and a lot of them are about being vulnerable and about being thin to the things that I preach often. So I knew I could find some good data there. And what I found was actually an article that someone wrote about Brunei Brown and I really liked it. So woman named Madeleine fry, and the article was called five, powerful lessons about authenticity. Everyone needs to hear, and she writes for something called barely MAG dot com, and I'll throw the link on the show notes as well. But back to Brown, some of the books that she's written that are just pretty amazing. And I got the these from her website where she just mentioned a couple of words after the name of the book. But one, the gifts of imperfection where she said, be you the next one daring greatly. Be all in that one. The first one I read and then rising strong. This one was when I read recently, which is fall, get up try again. I love it. And so I'm going to be quote quoting Madeline fry quite a bit here on quoting Burnett Brown. And so I guess if you wanted to quote me quoting. Fry quoting for neighboring. That would be kind of fun, too, but Burnett Brown's work, scored amount fry on shame, authenticity. Invulnerability has been incredible. Since Brown gave her compelling. Ted talk, the power of vulnerability, which I was doing the math. It's now eight or nine years ago. I think eight years ago it's become one of the most viewed TED talks of all time and she's kind of become America's go to guru for as and fry says the universal emotions that no one likes to talk about. Although I believe they're kind of getting more mainstream now and her books that gift of imperfection Brown says that authenticity is the antidote to shame about that. We're talking about, you know there, there's nothing productive about shame. I got podcasts on that guilt, guilt that can be cinem-, ocean kind of a regular motion. Guilt can bring some awareness to us some say, gilts, like, stop sign, but then here comes, it's buddies, shame and shame as that is the part says, hey, PS your horrible person, and you're always going to do these things and you're never gonna get over them and that sort of thing. And to offer. Been. And when I was talking earlier about being my authentic self, when people go into the, you know how bad you blew it. You know, I don't really like you very much. Those sort of things they bring on shame. I've talked to. I can't even tell you how many people just constantly feel shame about when they let people down or that sort of thing. Instead of seeing it as guilt or seeing it as an opportunity to improve. You know, let's look at the data. Why. Maybe somebody is quote letting someone down, and let's see what's underneath that. And we can work with that from a more strength based place, not not a shame based place. So Brown is again, she says, authenticity is the antidote to shame and she defines authenticity as a collection of choices that we have to make every day. It's about the choice to show up and be real that choice to be honest, the choice to let our true selves be seen, and Mel and Frank on to say, shame can debilitate us if we let it fester, but we can also overcome if actions speak louder than words. Then honesty is purest when we express it through what we do. And being this kind of authentic and do a lot more for us than combat shame. And so that's where she came up with these important lessons. He's five important lessons. We should learn about authenticity and shame from Bernie Brown. The first one is no surprise. You must let go of shame to be authentic. So whenever Brown tells people that she study shame, she says that the conversation often gets pretty awkward or even flat out ins because shame such a viscerally, painful emotion in that bis reaction. I mean, it's just a, we have such an immediate reaction. So shame as such, viscerally, painful emotion that no one even wants to talk about it even while it's on our lives profound. And because we have this this deep desire to connect. That's the that's the part where we are afraid to reveal are vulnerable, are Thint selves at the risk of being examined, or as fry, says, found lacking and rejected. Again, it goes back to that if I am open, if I'm a then here will come the shame and then there will people won't want to hang out with. People won't want to be friends with me. A lot of people that have become introverts or isolated or that sort of thing. I mean, they've already kind of made that decision that if people got to know who they were, you know, then they would not like them. So therefore they are not willing to kind of put themselves out there and be offended. And on that note, I mean, that's hard for me to see because I get to work with enough people and there's enough resources out there these days, even the world of online dating or meet up groups or that sort of thing where you know, if you really want to be authentic, you can connect with someone there. There are a lot of people out there that are probably like a lot of things that you do or. But it's hard because if you just kind of put yourself out there and and and you're not being offensive if you're not being true to yourself, then you're gonna end up being around a lot of people that maybe aren't necessarily like that self that you want to be, which is gonna leave you feeling less than so Browns said, we cannot share our selves with others when we see ourselves as flawed and unworthy of connection. And that is big. So that was from a book thought it was just me, but isn't. She said, it's impossible to. Be real when we're shamed of who we are, what we believe. And that's part of this whole struggle with this journey to authentically if you aren't. If you see yourself as flawed and unworthy of connection, you're not gonna put yourself out there. You know, in the episode last week episode, seventy nine had christianson on talking about his managing ten commandments of managing depression. One of the things that he said that I've used so much now as where at one point he said, hey, I'm not broken or I'm not flawed. He said, I'm Nate and and it was funny because I in my head, I was ready. I was kind of queuing up a talking third person joke, but but then it was like, boy, that struck me because you know, you're not flawed, your human, your you, that's who you are right now. Let's deal with that. So you know, we can't see ourselves as flawed. We're working progress. We're gonna figure this thing out so so yet rather than worsening our chances of connecting with others. This is this is the great part fry says that often too. City enables it so again. So when we are thin -tic, it doesn't actually worsen our chances of connecting with others. It makes it better Brown explains in her vulnerability. Ted talk that what true connection requires of us that we let go of who we think we should be in order to be who we are when we choose to believe that we are worthy of love. When we marginalize shame, we become more comfortable expressing authentic selves. That's the time Brown says that's being offensive. That's what is going to increase our chances of connecting with others. That's the part where when I say in that classroom, that I mentioned earlier that I have not much of a memory for remembering scripture stories, but I have a tremendous amount of passion and love for others. And that's me being authentic and guess what typically people come in and want to share that they have a similar experience. There is a person in my congregation that gave a talk once where they opened up about mental health struggles that they had. Man, I went right to that person and said. I am so grateful for you being offended and being vulnerable, and and that led has led to a nice friendship. So when we put ourselves out there when we are being thin, dick, then we are going to feel more true to ourselves and that is we are typically, we are. We're going to increase chances with connecting with others. Others who may be aren't to that point yet where they feel like they can express who they are emotions. So the good news is that we can. You know, we can choose how we wanna work through shame in our lives. So in the book I thought it was just me, but it isn't Brown uses the term. She calls it shame resilience to explain how we can handle feelings of unworthiness. That challenge are often tizzy. She says, recognize shame when we experience it and then move through it and constructive way that allows us to maintain our often Titi and grow from our experiences. So the first point is being again able to recognize it, hey, I'm not broken. I'm not flawed. I'm Tony. And and so just bringing some awareness to recognizing that. Recognizing that is going to be the first step in kind of helping us as Brown says, move through it in a constructive way that allows us to maintain authenticity and grow from experiences. Ain't that leads right into fry says number two, the way to be authentic, being authentic, does not mean bearing all. 'cause I think that was kind of a nice flow here. She said, vulnerability is the source of authenticity, and that's the what Brown explains in her book daring greatly. But being real doesn't mean flaunting the details of private lives necessarily. I don't think that that's what we all we have to do an order to authenticate some people do and and it can really help others. But for others, that doesn't mean that that's the recipe that you have to do. So rather sharing your story with even sometimes a select few. That's that can be wise that's not closed off. Healthy vulnerability recognizes wind share, and even winter remain silent. And this can help you strike the balance fry says between guarding who you are, your core and expressing it. So it's again here comes a cliche, but it's a process to start to recognize it, and then start to look for people that you can. You know, the select few even at time. The you can start to share a little bit more of your vulnerable self. So it you know, it's okay to speak the truth without speaking all of it. And in some cases, this is a mantle and fry said she, she likes to say, hey, I'm having a rough day is a lot better than just saying, I'm doing great. And I know that we I've talked about this before too. There are people that we all run into in our lives that every time you see him doing horrible or I'm always busy. I'm always tired. So I'm not talking about that because is that the person? No, but the person might be today's a good day. I'm feeling it where another day might be. I don't know. Something's some different a little off today instead of the person's always. Great, great. Doing great. So tasteful vulnerability is the foundation. There's that hiccup, sorry, excuse me. Tasteful owner ability is foundation of authenticity. Is it really a hiccup of it's been what thirty minutes? Or is that just like embarrassingly hiding bit of a belch might have been what that was, and I'm not gonna edit that out, tastes vulnerability, foundation of authentic wording fry over sharing often, say even make people seem fair. Take. And so that's the part where you know what I've seen that a timer to where somebody's just going to go big, go all in on just sharing about every every single detail. And sometimes that can project a little bit of this, hey, over share in hopes that you will like that part of me, excuse me, not about, hey, this the authentic me. So I think just kind of being aware of that is is important as well. She goes on to say, number three boundaries support authenticity. Those who have a strong sense of their own identity and the ability to express it always have healthy boundaries Brown says, setting healthy boundaries as simple. It comes down to letting others know what's okay. And what's not if you're uncomfortable with something, tell the person so and YouTube and work towards a solution, letting others have their own way and people pleasing do not make you a kind person. They make you a resentful person. I like that concept to. That's the part where, yeah, letting somebody we go back to that previous example of their talking bad about cats and you love cats, letting others this kind of talk about it and. Then maybe if you're saying, yeah, I don't like either doesn't make you kind makes you resentful that you didn't stand up for yourself or or that you weren't able to kind of bring some awareness to that conversation. We let somebody cross a line that's important to you, then you're not doing either of you favor by staying silent. And I think that's a again, a big part of being authentic Brown uses the acronym big b. I g to explain why is important said we must set boundaries. There's the b. to maintain our integrity and still make the most generous assumptions about others. So there was the big was boundaries. I was integrity, and then the g. was generous, still making generous assumptions about others in this way, we express our selves by sticking to our principles while also being compassionate as possible. I think that's the key one of the things. If you are standing up for your beliefs or yourself, it doesn't mean the f. to scream it yell at, or you know, bring negatively to it. It's just about, you know, your boundaries to maintain your integrity, what's important to you and still make the generous. Assumptions about others of I express my truth and then I have empathy. I express sympathy toward the other person. You know if they were, I don't know if they were attacked by a gang of several hundred cats when they were young and we don't know anything about that. Then maybe having that story level, but more empathy for why they are not big fans of cats. All right. Here's one that I honestly, I thought that I thought that this is something that I came up with, but I heard a long time ago and and I use it a lot of Senate on the podcast, but you know, don't should on somebody else. You should do this. You should do them and Mallon fry as here's number four were all shooting ourselves, Mesa. Okay, authenticity is threatened by two common pitfalls. And those pitfalls are perfectionism in comparison. She quotes Brown by saying, we simply can't speak our truce when we're held hostage by what other people think Brown wrote in the book. I thought it was just me. She said, as we grow up, we filter our experiences through others. So we filter our experience rather sad becomes. Part of our Lynn's and we filter those through others expectations, others beliefs. And so when we learn to desire normalcy over authenticity, we become fake and I, that's kind of a deep. So we, you know, we are just kind of seeing everything is if we're going to be judged by other people's experiences by their expectations. So so when we learn or what she's saying is that when we learned a desire normalcy or meaning that, hey, we just don't really wanna rock the boat instead of being thick. And that's when we become fake in another tedtalk. Listening to shame for neighboring explains that failing to meet the standard of perfection contributes. And in this case, he was talking about women in particular, contributes to women feeling shame. Thus we get trapped in a vicious cycle of feeling shame after missing the perfectionist, Mark, and then maintaining shame because their imperfections make us to afraid to express the authenticity that turn shame away. Break that down, right? So trapped in this vicious cycle of feeling like we're supposed to be perfect. Than feeling shame after missing the Mark of being perfect because no one is going to hit that Mark of being perfect, and then maintaining the shame because these imperfections make us to afraid to express the fact that we know that we can't be perfect that we can't be authentic and the full title of daring greatly Bernie Brown sums up the solution. Well, the full title says, it's daring greatly. Let go of who you think you're supposed to be an embrace who you are. Okay. And then the fifth key that fry says of authenticity is authenticity is key to compassion and the gifts of imperfection Brown says, we can't be compassionate unless Rothen tick being real with people then is not only essential that connection, but also to compassion. You have to be kind yourself first and then to others. She quotes CS Lewis who said friendship is born at the moment when one man says to another what you too. I thought that no one I thought I thought that no one, but myself experienced whatever it was the quote kind of cuts off there, but I love that that what you to, that's. Part where when you feel like you're being thick, that is when someone says, oh my gosh, that's I, I know what you're talking about. I experienced that too. That's what's gonna forge more of a genuine friendship than always feeling like I am being judged by my friends. REM I say the wrong thing by my friends any. That's one of the things where people will say, you know, and it can sound cliche, but if you're gonna express your truth or your city, and then the other person's gonna say, oh, jeez, I can't believe you said that then is that the best kind of a friend is that is that a truly thick friend. So without anticipate these moments, these, what you two moments are impossible authenticity makes way for compassion by expressing trust and allowing us to connect with others over shared experiences. So fry goes on to save, and we begin to live thickly authentically, we recognize are worth. We express vulnerability. We set boundaries and only then can we turn outward and express compassion? So I love it. May she? She summed it up by saying shame may be universal, but rejecting it. That's up to us. So. What do you do from here? And I'm wrapping this up now. I promise. What do you do from here? Just listened to the podcast started to do some self reflection, feeling shame about not feeling like you've been authentic, then bring some awareness to it. Maybe I want to say knock it off, but but that would bring shame. So awareness is the first step. So the first thing you do just bring some awareness of the fact that, okay, maybe I'm not being as because I wanna be and that does lead to shame. This might require an exercise in determining what your internal values are. Then a couple of episodes on acceptance and commitment. There being in particular book called the confidence gap by Russ Harris. And if you read that one, he goes into a lot about an exercise, undetermined your values because your values ultimately need to be in line with what your goals are, and there's a there. There's actually a PDF file out there on the web. It's a confidence gap worksheet that helps you identify your values and I do it with people in session here and it's pretty powerful, but also learn to seek genuine connection seek to truly understand. The people around you, the more genuine, the connections with the people around you are the more likely you're going to feel like you can truly be authentic and do your best to try to remove the thought of thinking that you need to be perfect. You're human and is humans were were flawed. We are from the book the road, less traveled. One of my favorite ones by m Scott peck. Again, he starts off by saying life is difficult. That is one of the great truce what, but once we understand and once we understand we accept that life is difficult than the fact that life is difficult, no longer really matters. It's more of what we do with that fact that does so start to learn how to truly be in the moment, be present, try to become a better listener. When you notice that your mind is starting to drift off somewhere else will be yourself up about it because there's comes the shame, just gently noticed, bring your mind back to the president, the more you do this exercise more natural become and the easier will be to help you regain focus. People know when you're not there at the Tel you as their my job is to stay connected with people in session, but I'm keenly aware of folks who. The moment that I start to kind of talk express anything they to now they're getting antsy their attitude because they want to craft their next response. So learn how to be present. But in all of this will lead to this feeling of authenticity. And that's that is my hope. My prayer for all of you is that you will. You'll just truly start to believe that you can find that authentic you and only just that you can find it that. But by living this authentic life that that you will feel more connected to others that you will develop more deep relationships and friendships and that this will just become a feeling normal feeling of just feeling connected and being you're still going to have the ups and downs the bumps in the road. But boy, they, they are. I feel like they are a lot. There are lot more workable, workable problems when you are truly being on the dick yourself. All right. Hey, thanks for your time today. Folks. I will see you next time on the virtual couch and taking us out as always is wonderful, talented. Florence with its wonderful flying. Out. The day grind. Placed in. Stillman. Pushes things. Two. Exciting news discount. Opportunity. Take. Pushed. 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Words On Water #124: John Fletcher and Kraig Moodie on the YH2O Mentoring Program in Baltimore

Words on Water

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Words On Water #124: John Fletcher and Kraig Moodie on the YH2O Mentoring Program in Baltimore

"The word aw her high welcome towards on water a podcast from the water environment federation. This is the host Travis Travis loop really excited for this conversation today about an incredible workforce program In Baltimore I'm joined and by John Fletcher with Dukes. He's Atlantic Regional Manager. John how are you doing. Awesome and with Craig Moody. He's president of flow wave Craig. How's it going great? I had the chance to hear about this program at one of our our West Max meetings and it was just really a compelling incredible story about about what has been put together there in Baltimore before we dive into the whole story. Of how evolved. Could you Kinda give a summary of what this program is. I guess it's a youth mentorship technical training program Journal Taco been compliments about the history of the program a basically. It's a program vite up into three phases where the initial phase focus on about eight weeks focusing on job readiness training overall just professional skills communication appearance Interview things of that nature that goes into a phase two which lasts about ten weeks enduring phases wanted to participants of the program are asked to attend two days a week for three hours each day. That is unpaid attendance. Investment into the program and in phase two. They you get more of a technical exposure to the water wastewater industry so they'll do job tours site visits. They'll go to different facilities within the city of Baltimore or Baltimore. County wastewater treatment plants pump stations laboratories. And then the lawsuit spent some time with private contractors field doing Line inspections winds route. Control In place rehabilitation things of that nature and then during phase three or the final phase of the programme. They drop into the city's youth works program which is a global city program which employs about a thousand younger adults swam across all departments of the city in other companies. Participate with that program in. This program is about fifteen to twenty participants in the fall into that net is pay five days a week job in following that there's a career fair and then they go into more of a longterm pointed situation. That's a really really incredible program. So I'm looking forward to hearing how that evolved into in that's a lot of work right to take To take people in what ages of this it's usually on the program is open to eighteen to twenty four okay residents of the city of Baltimore that heavy high school degree or geology eighty This is just graduated. Our fifth class were moving into the sixth class. Historically the classes have been fifteen eighteen participants this year. The city due to the success of the program the Internal Promotions of the program in some of the additional supporters. Orders for the program there in bill from fifteen to twenty five participants fantastic fantastic. So how did this all get started a wended. Let's get started well. Interestingly enough the direct result of City Baltimore hosting the two thousand fourteen specially questions conference which I was lucky enough to be the local chair. Okay and I had at the time bureau chief Rudy Chow was my co chair. And he really loves supported he really helped goes out and has been very very successful conference and by the time we actually had the conference he had been promoted to director. I gotta a lot of time with Rudy Chow. Just discussing all sorts of things about city Baltimore and one of the things that he mentioned. Several Times was just frustration with the fact that at any given time he'd have two to three hundred open jobs just couldn't fill it was always very Frustrated about that and then at the end of the conference we have this big celebratory. We're done we don't want to do this anymore. Party at Delicias Mullaly and talking with a guy named David Archer a lot of people will know him and he had shared with me a story from a few years earlier where he was at the council. The government's conference in. DC At happened to be talking with Sheila Dixon Break and she was lamenting the fact. That wish you could do something about the fact that at any given time there's roughly a hundred thousand us in the city of volatile not Note no way to get out and just had little one of those light bulbs and I was like holy cow. Hillary grabbed him. It's still stares David Archer and I found pregnant. Egging found direct child in a pullover foreigner. I just said tell me what you just told me. And he shared that sit rudy. How many times have you told me that you can't fill jobs shops so it took six months of meeting after meeting after meeting after meeting with meeting with different parts legal department human resources office the mayor and it wasn't until Gentlemen Ernest Dorsey doors was director of the mayor's Office of Employment Developed Sadden meetings and just finally he just stopped said? Wait a minute this is what we do and we always talk about that now. This is what we do And it just developed. The first year was was I feel like we got thrown together faster. He was there six six weeks later. Programs are wow. That's incredible and we were kind of thinking that we would started January. Two Thousand Sixteen like we're starting January fifty and then and it's really the success because there was a true partnership between city of Baltimore and the Chesapeake. What Vital Association? So the Jesuit. Imagine what Craig talked about the details. It takes so many volunteers and one thing he didn't mention is that every single one of us are cared coach slash mental. ooh ooh and that was one of the limiting limiting factor. That's why getting about fifteen. Yep Abby really serious about this and we were very fortunate in the beginning years that a big big brothers. Big Sisters stepped in and did a lot of coaching. The coaches like. Here's how you here's how you work with people that this age these these young younger individuals Scholz's with all it's an we were down. Couple of sessions with them Tippett's big rose basis or the great chesapeake and they typically are doing med tours. They want youth mentors for children. They're a much younger age bracket than the program that we're dealing with sweet talk. They're Kinda Standard Mentor. Training in evolved into a career coach training obviously much shorter time commitment and did a couple of sessions so every coach is required to go through that. At least once you have a lot of folks that are repeat previously. It's the same training but we do require in a lot of it. Is Communication skills however bridge the age gap in because because a lot of our coaches are more experienced. Industry Professor Yes so that boundaries things involved involve things about the involved with because again primary focuses career. Coaching not necessarily managing personal situations. But we had number of coaches that they do get involved. We have everything from people that participate in the group events and kind of limited to that plus Navy subjects communication. All the way to some of our coaches even today have I've literally a reunion with their first year second year. Third Year Participants program now go out and have a weekend barbecue or something like that density Kinsey originals. Sure I really want to hear more about how The experience went of putting this in place. And what so you saw As you took these these young adults and plugged them into this program. And how how that went that no there were varying levels of success right and so what. What was that like? It's interesting because you're the first day you can all all these use participants coming from all around the city and meeting joke for the first time and we take a group picture and then at at graduation deserved. There's a very formal graduation ceremony that the mayor comes to director comes along commissioners who they are and take a picture again and it's two totally different group of people allow And and as one of the deputy director I think near to she was was kind of almost told do this with us but she really got totally enrolled in it she. She became very very hall and she made a comment somewhere in the second year so that she can always tell which us for the whole city summer summer. Internships coming out this program. Because they're just more they learn Visual the whole the elevator door before you think things. Yeah so it's it's it's really neat to see the because most of the cases you see them really grow out shells This is a very. It's a very very new type of environment. It's a very different experience. They haven't had this type of training type of coaching than exposed to professional kind of career and all assets very very new world for them. I think Judge Ernest Dorsey from the mayor's office blaming development. I think the person who really kind of hold the program together. Obviously there's a board of directors kind of guide the the path of the path together but Anthony Green works within the mayor's there's officers appointed development works for and it's kind of the guy behind the scenes. It really holds the entire program together. He's the person of the participants come to every week. Look at his facility in Easel goes through a lot of those professional skills in the velvet of skills and work with them on a regular basis Just making sure. They're there on time making sure that they kind of develop. It's almost like a obviously have men and women so it's like a fraternity so speak That this class because because they do look out for Joe Yeah. Yeh Jim did show up this week. on hall Carpool things like that. So they really do gotta develop a bond if you will for the class which you can see also talking about each other? They talk about share experiences and things like that. So it's impressive. He's able to building from a group of fifteen or in this case. Twenty five for dispense. That really did know each other companies door so you can tell at the at the end of the year how much they respect him. It's it's really made you know the joke with at by the end. They're all joking with marriage a complete. It's a transformation wow personalities by He he gives them a lot of tough love. You really does Sharon. He's impressive man. Some and then what's so talk about the impact. Then on you know the the Public Works Department and actually these job openings right. What what? Have the graduates of this program. Gone onto deal all cross-border some of working for Baltimore County over counts. A lot of volume says a lot of them once again. Orange County last year. Engineering firm has picked up a couple And everything from an operator outfield outfield to a legal department. Someone went to the communication apartment data entry clerk. So it's really you know we vote worse than we think water and sewer and going out in the field for every person that works out in the field is fifties that are behind scenes so it's not limited Solely to operate type work. It's work wherever you're still proved to rise to the top. That's where we're GONNA help directly towards within the within the organization that you end up with. I think that's one of the things that CWA brought to the table obviously the city of Baltimore VW doing this to for their succession. I should planning for their workforce development within the city And they do invest a lot of time effort resources into the program but as part of that career fair that I mentioned the phase as three before the participants into an actual fulltime job position That career fair foods private companies consulting firms services companies and other utilities That have also participated in the program as coaches. John Mentioned Baltimore County. We also have a strong uh support from Howard County. I in Toronto's attended the county's attended the career fair and then just recently Maryland environmental services hired today a participant this year through some of their involvement. They've got a coach in law from the from the beginning and allow support from them as well. So it's I think ninety seven percent the placement rate that's phenomenal officials of participants. They graduate program. Yeah so every year we start fifteen typically due to other career opportunities or other Oh situations twelve to thirteen graduate each year and of those ninety seven have received an initial offer. WanNa say the number is about eighty five percent one of the people of participants that are still employed. Yeah now there's been a lot of stories about you know some. Some participants have gone to private sector work therefore couple years and then come back to the city Sullivan gone to the county. Come back to the city. There's been a lot of different pass and I know the city keeps up with them. Keeps track track of Understand their opportunities to develop but we had one for just went to work for one of the local consultants spent two years there. It was very happy. Had a great experience just attended this past years career fair and ended up getting a job back in the city. So it's a full circle and I think probably the UH one of the shining stars of the program is Raquel Robbins. She was a graduate of the first year of the program was the twenty eighteen in twenty nineteen. DPW employee of the ear. She She wanted to play you. The months in an odyssey plays mother. I'll put into a cool if she was voted selected as employees of the year. And that's the twenty five hundred employees within just DPW. Let's see Baltimore so that's fantastic GW. Great Job we've also made success stories like that Rock Hill is truly. She disguised. But there's been so many sure that have just just come into their own right out of the gate to like within a year to become true professionals working for the city Baltimore offer for whoever is just so rewarding walk into able won't building and sees them working over there that they came to this program. Yeah Yeah I'm really impressed by those statistics about pretty good graduation rate and then at that placement rate is incredible and it's great to hear them just get into career right. Yeah the city had the support. This that'd be great if there with DPW but it's great to have them It's great to have them get a job any place in NBA into the kind of broader sector from the year fairly regularly. As I've got a checking account for the first time in my life I've I've I've I got my old apartment. I moved out of my house. I've got a car just the things that we take for granted. And now they're they're they're out there and you're pushing uh-huh transforming their lives transforming the lives of several massive. It'll move several moose. Local news stations have had the one we share with you at weapons on your salutes. Where individual graduates are con- highland? So I want my point is that it's yeah we've had some real shining stars with Dick all tremendous it comes out of dreams and then they probably are ambassadors if you will for careers like this and for for the program itself but also for you know what you can do if you if you put your head down and you take training. Hey there's these jobs out here you can get. These are good jobs and like he said you could be working in an office. She working as an operator. Whatever it is right there become ambassadors for kind of the sector? That's actually one of the most common answers were there were participants. Spencer asked what he went out its program or why did you get into this program or whatever. The number one answer is absolutely free career. Not a lot of them come from from Fast food type jobs and also a lot of them are valets and things like that on the resumes because obviously reform interview process. That's what they were looking for. They want career something. They can invest their time to get the benefits. Compensation allowed to go back to your original ambassador comment on number of the participants. This year in the past couple of years are either siblings or family members of prior graduates So the message is getting out there. there's also anthony talks a lot about this. There's there's folks in the community that he gets calls from saying. Hey I know so-and-so's accessible as program librium were submitting applications for these other family members To be part of this zero changed their lives as so awesome. Yeah that's good stuff love it. Is there a a website or page or anything where people can learn about more about this. There definitely is a couple of options. I would say the city of Baltimore for roadworks website as has a section the application additional information on the about us and then also the chesapeake water environments sociation. We have a link on our website as well for both the application location and also for national gration and and a couple of years ago of the mayor is branded now called why to use water. I like it releases colluded with that on an asthma really wonderful recognition. Two years ago threes. We won the West was a Community outreach award from West was presented Than last year we won a the grant funds from Amazon for sustainability programs and then also just recently a local award for the Baltimore. Baltimore Talk. Committee is a local business organization that rewards local programs and different things for the city of reaching out involving humidity I mean this is Those of us that have our from that area or bend area or know about Baltimore. This is Something that's needed in the in the city right. They need some opportunities for for young people to to Kinda get out of the situations that Iran and find career and and find some purpose. You know and so it's it's a great place for this to be happening. It is an north four really important to point out the fact that I mentioned early on this is a true partnership between. CWA Baltimore because without each of them giving a complete commitment. So we now have a subcommittee with Zita struggle about plus the whole side of the seat of a portion of it option. Parliament were to the side and just the number of volunteers have from all across the board. We literally have every year dozens and dozens of people involved in just giving their time to make the successful. And you said it's going up from the usual fifteen to twenty five. Now that's that's a pig expansion. It's a big jump right you'll Award sounds like it's time they've built up. The foundation City decided to make a jungles day. They're expanding into some other departments. Musso LABASA begins folks evolved from solid waste and some other things things just to see. If it's something that we've been able to capture success within water wastewater orphan something that is scalable to other art with sure. Sure excellent while John and Craig. I'm glad we get to catch up and have this conversation. It's a really inspiring program a look forward to share in the store with people. But thank you guys. Thank you art

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Hannah | Revisiting Eighth Grade and Crushing on Teachers

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Hannah | Revisiting Eighth Grade and Crushing on Teachers

"I'm actually slightly afraid that I'll fall for a teacher but not too. There's so much to attack. They have a a tiny itsy-bitsy crush on Mr Stevens. I think you're you're listening to read it in veep with me Alina outsor- Hannah thank you so much for joining me today. Glad to be here. Thanks for joining my DM. I know so you dear listener last week I got a DM a direct message for the old listeners. You know all those out there from Hannah and she found the podcast via read it and set me a really great journal entry and said I'd love to do this and so here we are recording remotely. The Damn I sent you was actually the first time I've ever slid into someone's Dm the first experience good. Well I'm glad I could. I'm glad it could be your first hand today. We decided we're going to do in eighth grade themed episode. Have you seen that movie eighth grade with. Oh my gosh. That was the most amazing and most like the cringe was visceral it. Everything was so bad. Takes you right back. I couldn't have said it better myself. Like that. was everyone's eighth grade experience in a nutshell. Yeah so that's what we're hoping to bring to life today with some of our Eighth Grade Journal Okay so for context you you were in school. In North Carolina Carolina is that true China. I grew up in Chapel Hill. Where a UNC is very cool? Yeah all right well all starts off with one that I found so something you should know about me. It in eighth grade is that I went to one of those like the accelerated program schools so everyone was nerd. Sir like there wasn't like the cool kids were also we were all nerds. It's which really messed me up for them when I went to a regular high school but my my dad taught in that program in our like there was a magnet program within our middle or was in our middle schools and you could take test and qualify and I got in I was like I can't do another three years of my dad. Like teach me because he would always be like. We'd be in the car. Like how many different permutations do you think there are of license plates. Let's see if we can figure that out right now. Oh my gosh. That sounds awfully like my dad. anytime ask for math homework help on math homework he. He's a programmer so he'd be like let's build a program In it'll solve it for you and I'm like well that's nice but like I can't use that on a test. One of my tests in high school math was literally programming calculators. We made a program for the quadrant formula that I like used up until the sat's or the AP and they made you delete all the programs in your calculator Yeah I definitely never got that programming programming bug even though like if we were like board in Church or whatever and all the other kids could draw pictures my dad would be like right out the the binary table and you'd be like zero one one zero. Okay so this though. You're you're in your little nerd in minored group and this is Thursday December eleventh nine eighteen. PM My room dear Penny Penguin. That's the name of this particular journal. Yesterday I didn't eat anything and felt sick but today okay so ryan has me under his spell but I know he doesn't like me More more than I'm funny. Cute and fun to flirt with I. I know he doesn't think Oh. She dresses modestly. Oh Oh she is a virtuous young woman perfect to marry. Oh she's perfect to raise a family with now did you were you. Were you hoping pig. That was how he was the goal. Kevin goal of this eighth grade. Mind to have a in hopes that I have for fourteen year old boys to already be thinking. This girl's perfect to raise up a family real marriage or two you know. I know he doesn't like me like that. I wonder if you think about me. I mean I look at his wife is going to be so lucky to have someone so polite and respectful and I look at Bryant in go. He's so polite. I know he would never hurt me so I wonder if any boys look at me and say Alina is so carrying. I know she would raise it. My Kids wonderfully Love Alina spoiler alert. They did not do not the reality I had to learn. Only oh my gosh middle school boys do not know anything anything and they were definitely not thinking about what kind of girl would make the best wife material like. Why did I even think that they would think that is my is? That's where I'm embarrassed. I Ah I love how I describe guys. And all the people on your show so far have been describing the people that they like and like the specific adjectives that they like latch onto. Who like you said polite just other nice polite like just? Oh Yeah I really go for that again. You know it was like the older you get your edges change a little bit in. I don't think I've ever described someone is interested in lately as polite like it's such a old fashioned in word but it's a it's a good one. Yeah it's it's good but I think in the at this age someone was like. Oh Yeah my boyfriend's very polite light. I'd be like you have no sex anyway. I don't know where Bryant is these days or what team he plays for right but he was so polite and so good at musical theatre. Well I hope that he has a very wonderful full partner. Who appreciates his Such a diplomatic way. I agree all right. Let's hear what you're getting is so excited so I did not name any of my other journals but this journal has a name because like the company is just like a really giant journal. Well and I think like on the packaging somewhere. It said the word jumping so this house dear John so this is July eighteenth two thousand eight so the summer before for Eighth Grade Dear Jumbo juicy details coming right up. I kissed Eric my boyfriend. I'm not going to tell my mom or my friends. I might if they ask but I won't go into details. It was on last Friday July eleventh. We were at Durham Bulls baseball game and there were the fireworks at the end. There was romantic parentheses sort of music playing overhead parentheses. Good vibrations it'd be voice one of their most non-romantic sort of romantic. I have very a classic musical taste and like I will like no a single song by an artist and it will not be as popular song or the song that like makes makes the most sense for an eighth grader too. I think there's one later where I don't know a famous song. I I'll come to that. So this very romantic riddick. Good vibrations going on. And he said he'd been thinking about kissing me and then had realized that he had to stop waiting for things to happen on their own. I smiled smiled nervously and then sort of leaned in and Kitin. I always thought that he gets me but I kissed him because like a leader boyfriend. I high school boyfriend. I was very proud of like little feminine hand for being the One to First but apparently this is just the thing that I did. Was this. Your first kiss okay. So this this is actually debatable. So in earlier in seventh grade at the end of the year this eighth grader asked me to dance editor dance while I was like you know lurking around trying to get the seventh grade of the I liked to notice me and so it was like okay. Obviously yes because you know you don't say no one as as good and then at the end of the song he kissed me like out of nowhere I was like. I don't know what broke away and then I was like okay. I guess we keep dancing now back to the end of the song so this is like very dramatic so great and then on Monday a he came up and asked me out and I was like. Okay yeah cause an eighth grader. Asked me all right. And then I proceeded to avoid him for for like the next four days and then on Thursday after school he asked for my home phone number I was like I'm sorry. This is like paddock. Call my home like I. I I was like this is way to. You personally cannot like invade my space so basically avoided him for a week like literally rotting away like down another hallway if I saw him coming and then like we literally had long conversation. It was him asking me for my home phone number so he could call call me. I think I was like why. Why do you? He's like so I can call you at your home because I didn't have a cell phone didn't get cell phones until software my sophomore year rate right. I didn't have facebook until halfway through freshman year of high school when I was like please all the club. Events aren't facebook being left out of everything. I think I like Sir a giant fan about being left out my parents really. We socially stunned her. Yeah and I wasn't allowed to have so I had like all email like yeah I had a M and I remember. You could have like kind of away message or like tag grinds John. I don't know where I got this but I made mine. The Perfect slut award goes to you and A. and my friend's MOM message meal her. Am and she was like. Hannah's not allowed to talk to you until you change your away message and I was so oh embarrassed. I didn't really thought it was funny. Okay so I smiled nervously Asli and then sort of leaned in and kissed him. My heart was beating so fast and I could feel my hormones kicking in like crazy kind of startled me because the act itself kissing kissing is nothing special parentheses. I guess it's just that your bodies are so close and touching in such sensitive areas under or likes so honestly I truly feel like my first kiss. You're GONNA like wait. This is it weird thing like when you finally have it in. Yeah that's what a great eighth grade way of viewing it like. I guess it's just your body's close in touching in sensitive areas. Yeah and like I just remember like after this happens like we had gone to sit separately from his parents who were like at the they worked really duke or something so there is some function. That's why we got to tag along. But we found other seats unlike their fireworks at the end of the game. And so it was like actually legitimately like a pretty good first story so so this is why this is my first kiss than not the like weird dance guy. 'cause this is like I take I just remember like feeling like I was vibrating. The whole time after his parents came to us. And we were going home the Intel. They know they can tell. I'm like vibrate and I love that. Good vibration was playing in the background. No that is a cute. You started what happened. Where where is he now? What happened? Oh he went went to do and he played in their marching band. He played the trumpet and he met his wife there so they got married. He proposed on their graduation. They should do. They were both in the marching band cured. Cute so I found any follow up to my obsession. My Eighth Grade Obsession I should with Bryant. Is there a T.. On the end of that. That's not young workers in pretty crazy names and like crazy spellings like I've seen Mackenzie spelled. Thirty different ways or my sisters have have friends. That are twins. And one's name is Mackenzie normal. The others is make Katy which gives me every time time Mick but you also so that the team and Brian again so specific this is at nine forty eighty four. PM written from my bed. It says dear penny today. I texted me. Send me a picture of you I replied in. May I ask why. And he said he wanted to show his friends what I look like. Unfortunately I had to send him a not so cute one but he said it was a nice picture. I'm just afraid to admit that he likes me because I can't give him my heart to tear apart like Jack and Kate did it. And then I have this picture of a heart and there's two missing chunks and I've labeled the Missing Chunks Jack in Gosh what like like me back. That's a bare minimum. It takes out my heart so cruel so I try to think he doesn't like me but it's hard because he's so sweet and Nice Ace. I'm sure he's a good kisser. With those full lips of his wound yesterday. I decided that I wanted to have a Christmas party but I wanted Brian Right to be there so I made sure he could come before. I invited anyone else. which haven't we all done that? He said he might be able to but hopefully he can side Dot Fun Times Alina. I wonder if he made it to my Christmas party. I can't remember. Isn't it weird like the things that you're this is why journaling is great. Because you realize things happen no recollection of love. But then if you read them like then those memories when you read the the memories are like when you read the Journal entries you're just transported reported back into that memory and yet so fun sometimes because you're like oh I forgot about this but certainly Sunday night been trying to do lately is not just like record the day to day events like a planner but also How I'm feeling at the time because I don't know I think it's I think one is a therapeutic thing to like right out how you're you're feeling like you processed way but to? It's also nice when I have those entries and I look back at. It transports me even more. Yeah yeah absolutely the funny thing to me is like it was so natural to like just like right exactly what I was feeling anytime in like my old journals. But now I have to consciously be like okay like how do you feel about like a mini therapist. But in this. It's like I'm so angry at my mom. And then the next sentence is like I love my best friend Riley. There's no there's a lot of non sequiturs in I know I know that feeling. Let's see what did we ended on a Bryant Journal Right. It's your turn okay. I'm so this is December. Eighteenth two two thousand eight dear jumbo. My lack of journaling is appalling. I am ashamed but with one hundred. Nineteen plus notebooks tend to. It's hard to keep my priorities straight. One hundred nineteen plus notebooks. Okay so when I was little basically from like birth I wanted to be a writer and so every single like birthday. Christmas like grandparents came to visit like it's Easter. Like I would get a notebook and like every person Jason is like. We'll handle it to like right so let me get her and I really really have like over two hundred like either old school books that I've saved like notebooks. It's from With schoolwork but with all the notes that my friends are in the margins or like just like notebooks that I got his presence and a lot of them have like twenty pages written in them. Take a large number of that. Okay I can relate to that I mean I definitely don't have two hundred but I see how that could add up. They're all like in boxes of my parents adults now. Also I love how you start off apologizing for not writing in your journal because I feel like half of my journal entries. Just start off with me apologizing for not writing in my journal. Yeah to to be fair like the previous journal entry was from August so they had been a while. Okay so it's hard to keep my priorities straight sort of like how in my life. I have so many things to do that. I can hardly keep up. It's very frustrating. strating not being perfect but as pleasantville points out. Perfect as deadly boring you know. Do you know that movie were they like go into the into the color. TV or or into the black and white TV or something and witherspoon learns life lessons as Pleasantville Pleasantville. points out so eloquent okay. If everyone who perfect I mean oh yeah so. Perfect is utterly boring hiring. If everyone were perfect I mean if only I were perfect it would be amazing. Probably not everyone would probably hate me but since I would be unhittable they they would all explode as there are conflicting feelings turned inward and then I would have to go pick up all the pieces of smoking flesh since I would always follow the laws. I think human flesh counts as litter. Oh Oh wait that's good lorraine okay. It's Um it's slightly like served until like a slightly morbid territory there. Yeah I thanks very attentive to the idea of water during this time because like the journal entry that I skipped over from August says I did do something very awesome awesome at the movies. Though the older teens were standing around and when they were leaving the Guy Through his empty Soda Cup on the floor I glare at them as they left and then went over and threw it away. I'm sure Eric Eric was impressed. I was so funny I love it. You thought that was journal Worthy you know. I've just like very proud of like by moral upstanding character like did you in the back of your mind things things that you are like your children children's children would be reading these journals. Oh one hundred percent unlike waiting for the lifetime movie to come out it exactly and so bad that you need to show your character and you picking up movie litter is. There's no better way to show it. That's true it's a good example. Show not tall. which was like certainly my my weakest point in my childhood writing? Okay so after we pass the human flesh being litter Dr Jump into and so now eric and I have been going out for more than seven months. I don't think it's a good sign in seven months. We've only kissed seven times. Who who anti so needy? He thinks flooding with Harrison. And I can't flirt and then there's like a little angry face emoji. It's like this time I don't know so I knew that it was an Emoji. But there's little interface that looks like a modern day coach. What I wonder is? Are you angry because you can't flirt or your angered because your boyfriend thinks you're flirty thirty. I suspect it's a mixture of both the I can't flirt. is an all caps and underlined like four or five done. I told him several times through email and then he yelled at me again. All kinds you were flirting with him. Yeah so we said okay so this was the thing about this boyfriend. He did not really talk because he was just very quiet and shy. And we basically only had like real conversations over email and it mostly consisted of him and being like I love you. You're so great and being like you're cool man thought like I really sincerely wish I had this email account still issued issued. It was like an old earthlink account that is probably like many years since wipe if I could access my old email. My old like there's nothing I would pay so so much money for that. Yeah so he yelled at me. I'm going to house tomorrow night for a movie and I turned down down a girls movie night at Jenny's for that. I'm really sorry. I'm rather annoyed him now. Maybe I won't go with him in the morning. Sometimes I walk to do the Commons with him. which was Big Hallway ever than sometimes. I stay in the library with my girl. Space Very large space friends. I would rather stay with my friends because e slash C. They are much better conversation. He just can't hold up his end of the conversation with me. Maybe I should break up with him but I don't want to hurt him. God I am such a people pleaser. Hey at least yourself aware about. Yeah this this journal entry is interesting because I feel like Like actively having to work on. Now I'm like an adult and there aren't people giving you like positive feedback in like star stickers on your work all the time so it's very very funny to me that like in eighth grade. I felt like perfectionist. Tendencies that I was like. This is something that I'm struggling with what you felt the end. You realize that like I think it took me a long time to realize that I'm a people pleaser like I don't think any journals in middle school would admit admit to that. I think my mom was definitely kind of like the like open hippie. Mon- like at one point. She was like you know just to have sex until you're seventeen at least then you like you know you'll know you'll know you actually won. You can make decisions for yourself when you're seventeen but like you know all the all the parents of my friends who are like during this time period going through their like Catholic confirmation. We'll probably have been very traumatized to know that this is what my mother was telling everyone. That's amazing though. I think we need more hormone like that. My Mom is in a way like that. To where like the community. I'm in it's like us. Don't talk about it like Hush Hush and and I have this distinct memory and my mom was in Kosovo Sorry mom but I have this distinct memory story of US going out to eat at a restaurant at my sister was like ten at the time and she goes mom. What's a blow job and and my mom just say go right there in the restaurant just explained it to my sister and we were all my siblings were so mortified but in a way it's kind whatever -freshing you know like honesty? Yeah I remember I remember when I was like maybe eight. My brother asked how babies babies were made. And my dad like Gout Napkins and was like drying like sperm and eggs to like explain it to and we're like slightly like too young to be like like completely mortified by this. It was it was. It was very scientific very informative. Yeah that's nice anyway. So because she's he's like that you think that she helped you realize like Oh you're a people pleaser Hannah like the ideas of like I don't want to via people pleaser and like it's good to be like a bad ass and like do your own thing and like forget what other people say like. I very much like absorbed that what you don't WanNa be like that so I think I was like disappointed whenever I was like to attend to. What other people? Yeah okay that makes sense okay. Okay so God I'm such a people. Pleaser it sucks. I wish he'd just break up with me. I wouldn't even care if you thought it was cheating on him or something. I would thank you and walk away leaving him rather yeah I would probably cry that night. But only for the end of something that was decidedly more positive than negative than and if we broke up. I could quote flirt exasperated face with guys at my own leisure but leisure is very very misspelled. Could boys shop. That's actually pretty fun. You could boys shop okay. Then we take like a really steep steep swerve a to do territory so like intersperse with one of your other journals and leave it on a cliffhanger. Okay very slight slight cliffhanger while so this one I talked about this a little bit before or at least I think I've talked about David. Dave virtual data on at least episode. That comes up. I'll just read it. It's January seven ten twenty six. PM My bed dear penny. I'm obsessed I just when I don't like anyone I see David Arch Aleta and fall head over heels. Great not I know. I'm not going and married him. Although my name would sound great you can't get him out of my head and he doesn't even know I exist list but it's spelled like excess. This just makes me want to become famous more Disney or or Nickelodeon really needs to hire me. I can make it. I may not be able to sing like Miley Cyrus but I can act today. Billy my brother told me that if I married David Arch Aleta. He would give me a hundred thousand dollars. I would love to marry him because he's perfect. We have the same standards. He's gorgeous respectful and he hasn't had his first kiss yet either. Gosh how old was he. At this point I probably like eighteen. He was born in nineteen ninety. I had to look him up. I have no idea who this guy is. Like the name David Archer Letta. I'm like guys famous humans on American idol and he was on one episode of Hannah Montana in one episode of I carly I mean to be fair he was acute. Yes and at this book You Jim I know you was in your area. I had a chance like this isn't like me. and Freddie highmore the more I could meet this guy but but yeah and he hasn't had his first kiss yet either. He's waiting for the perfect person an moment just like me me but I need to remember that. There's somebody out there. Somebody may just for me helped me to get over. David Love Alina. Where where are you getting this information like? He seemed to know a lot about Freddie. Highmore and David Arquette is like in our life. Do you remember the magazine J fourteen or J. Thirteen eighteen. Something like that absolutely have. It was like people magazine for fourteen. Eighteen year olds. I think I think I might be able to picture like a what the cover might look like with. Lots of like little cutouts Bright Greens yellow highlighter. I wonder what it was like human garbage but it did give me a lot of information like they once had this full like special with David David Archer Leta and that's how I learned about like him not having his first kiss yet waiting for the perfect person in moment what. What was your first kiss breath? So I've I've been really obsessed since a little child if we haven't been able to figure that out yet with having like a perfect story like like with my cancer with the person I'm GonNa marry like the meet cute kind of you know like a cinematic movie story and so any time like growing up if someone wanted to kiss me and I didn't think like Oh. This is not going to be a fun story to retail. Like I would kiss him back like I would just dodge it which is dumb but whatever so so anyway. I didn't. I didn't have my first until I was nineteen. Okay but it was a perfect story In my nineteen year old brain gene and it was the it was twelve twelve twelve and twelve twelve. Oh my gosh in this like a key component of your plan. Yeah I mean like every year like Oh it's eleven at eleven eleven But it was when I started dating the like it was crushing on this kid. I remember thinking like Oh my gosh. Twelve twelve twelve is almost coming up like that would be such a great moment for reverse kiss and I actually I. I'm a go getter and so what I had planned is thought it'd be really cute to have my first kiss in the library in the art history section of the books because like this this kid and I we were both obsessed with art history and it was kind of like our thing and so for Christmas I had. This is so Dorky but I had bought him a art history textbook like the Apr History Textbook that he had used in high school. I found an old copy and I bought got it and I went through and I like made a bunch of jokes and comments in like wrote a bunch of notes in it and then I hit the book in the section of the library and I took took him up there. And I'm like Oh jared look they have your favorite textbook and he pulls it out. And he's like flipping through it and like he missed the note at the beginning. That said I like this from Lena. Whatever he's agreeing with all the notes that I had written in there and meet not subtle? I'm like ooh I love this piece in. I like flip to the kiss or like just any like statue or repainting where they're kissing. I would like pointed out Hoping that he would like kiss me in the library but he that's very clear segment. Now I feel like it too. That he didn't so then we're walking home and I'm disappointed in. It's snowing and I was. It's like it would be really cool to get my first kiss tonight. Because it's like twelve twelve twelve at twelve twelve and he was Zyppah Fascinating he looks at his watch sports. Only eleven o'clock right now so like Like the only okay. I guess it's not happening but like then we kept walking around campus and at some point I can t kept looking at his watch so at some point I realize it's like oh he's just like trying to kill time until it's actually twelve twelve. I mean you you did make ah very specific request. It's true I mean I got when I asked so anyway eventually. Hit twelve twelve and then we kissed and the rest assery. But that's the story GonNa tell at any party now. They're like everyone go round until your first kiss store the latest which one very fun. Anyway I WANNA hear part two of this okay for part two of this very long drawn tree so I was just saying that I was very excited to boys and how that's actually pretty fun. Amen I'm actually Slightly afraid that I'll fall for a teacher but not to say there's so much to unpack. We're having a tiny itsy-bitsy crush on Mr Stevens I think but probably only because he's a mature guy parentheses a rare thing and I see him five days a week for forty six minutes four. Now it's longer classroom. It would totally be sick. Not In a good way sick if I had a fling with teacher crannies who's married. I think but I can daydream. All I want and just saying that if I were a grownup he's the kind of guy I would like. Also Caffeine thinks he's hot and then I have a little drying of a campfire for like how hot he is. But then I wrote a label that fire and the Prince. My drawing skills capital are lacking or lackey also a reflection this is teacher now teaches with my father and my dad hates him because he's a terrible teacher like looking back act like I remember my friends and I went back. When you're a ninth graders to like help are like favorite art? Teachers chaperone a middle school to answer something. And they're all of these girls. Is that really madly in love with him. And I'm like there might be something wrong if like every year like teenage girls or follow with you and like he also like lettuce. Set the seating chart me specifically in my one friend in my class that the seating chart for every class period every quarter because we just because we asked so you you would like to make all of my friends together put people like who were there. Crushes like just on the edge of where you were but like I was like you must never tell anyone ever the. I'm the one who does this. Because otherwise we would like reveal way too much about who I it would be telling. That's amazing gene. It's so funny right so then moving right along. I cry so hard at night. Sometimes yesterday I cried so hard because I just finished a book. Similar to forever called lost parentheses her virginity and also dad was being an idiot. He he can be really unfair especially to Mac. Sometimes Max's my brother. It's so depressing. When a girl in a book loses her Virginia Some Guy She's in love with and then their relationship Russian ship immediately falls apart? Wow I've had a lot to rant and rave about nearly two whole pages I have to agree. I think I feel like the majority like the WII novels. I read the thing I got out of the most was like not to have sex because the oh boy which is going to break your heart and that you were. Did you ever read. That book called. Go Ask Alice Yeah. It was this there was supposed to be the diary of this teenager like a real life teenager so it was like by anonymous and she like guests guests until I could drugs and like ruined her life and then like right when everything seems like it's turned itself around and she found herself with a Christian boy and then like the last entry is like two weeks later she died. It's unclear if it was an overdose or an accident like waffle turns out that this book was not written by a real teenager and that the author like who later wrote like a ton of these kind of fake teenage things was basically like promoting. Like I think she was. Maybe Mormon Mormon and like you know like the Anti anti-drug like anti like drugs and tattoos alcohol and like homosexuality and like how all of these he's will lead you to send basically so all of the books and was like a teenager dying her whole her. I feel like I that was also part of the reason of like me holding out for my first kiss for so long. I didn't WanNa just kiss someone in the not feel like special like that. It was just whatever you know what I mean because of books like this where it's like that's yeah just horrible. It's just horrible around rebel. But do you remember when Taylor Swift wrote that one song about her friend losing virginity fifteen. No I was not like a super dedicated Taylor Swift Fan. I feel like I listened to tear drops on my guitar and like love story the level. I'm at two but I remember my friends. They've lead like all play the song because I want to say the song's called fifteen but all the ts with fans ends can come at me. But I remember my friends like one particular would play all the time and just be like this is what keeps me chaste because I don't Wanna end up like Taylor swift's friend. Oh my gosh which I feel like adults have no idea like the league. There's all these like. I just remember all these casual comments throughout my childhood that like my parents are adults would say one time I was like well Mama you told me like I need to be the mature one on because like Max he's younger. He can't control his emotions as much and like I took that like Soda Heart acting ridiculously in these situations she was like. Why are you doing this will? Will you told me that one time that I need to mature. When she was like dude I did not mean the six three picture? I don't like to the far the end. We don't really know if someone tells us something like it must be true to the ends of the earth like when you have to follow that I also remember in that same friend Before she was a really avid reader but she would take sharp in any time there was like a word in the book like a swear word or dislike Nadi word she could sharpie out your lime. She their own books but like she would just censor her own. I have a friend who had done we in in in who who I think it was. Maybe in ninth grade she sh- some boy had like made some joke to her about eating out or something and and she like did not know dot net like she was like restaurants eating food and so we made like a composition book for her was like inserts from like cosmopolitan like sex position pages. And like. There's like all of these like details. We had this really elaborate like based system about like you know what like halfway to shortstop the things like that and so we gave her this notebook with all of our collective sexual knowledge so that she wouldn't be caught unawares. Amazing I wish you guys I still have that like she has still does. She still has a apparently so she's she's also married now and we're just talking the other day. Dan apparently she found it and sold box when they were moving in like she and her husband looked at and she's like you know like there's some legit types of that so it may still will be vigorous exercise just like I have some very vivid memories of my friends. Educating me on sexual things it's like I can. I remember the day in place in outfit. I was wearing when somebody taught me what motor-boating meant oh my gosh I still wish. I wish I could take back that day. Okay so so she continues kind of like more along along this track. Yeah it's I so okay so after talking about this book is it wrong to love suggestive songs in books. But every every time I wrote and it's a plus sign. I didn't bother too much with too much. I love songs. Like addicted by Saving Abel Bowl and Candy Shop by Fifty Cent Candy shop was my favorite song from like sixth through eighth grade. So savory the sexiness vibes live from the songs. And Burke like with by Donald Harrington which is like a very adult book parents not censor my reading like this book Doug includes like a sex scene with a ghost and like it's like you're as literature it's ver- anyways and lost it by Kristen Tracy. I also go back back and reread the intimate slash sexy parts in books. I love reading the honeymoon. Part of breaking dawn part it was very. I mean that's like when you read that it like it's it makes sense how fifty shades of grey started off as a twilight fantastic. Oh absolutely yeah. I don't think it's wrong to be curious about sex and stuff but maybe I love provocative could've stuff a bit too much so again like my mom's like good teaching getting in there but I'm still a little bit considering I love all the self regulating that it goes down in your journal. Yeah I'm like let's take too long. Let's bring it back this stuff. Yeah there's like a funny part are at the end of the second of explains that actually okay so sorry to get a bit heavy there. I'm just stressed about Eric. And is relationship and my entire future. I don't think I did did very well compared to high usually do on my midterms. And it's making me nervous now. There's a lot of ours a hate being being a perfectionist. I got a ninety three percent on my l a mid term and I'm freaking out about my future am I work ethic and etcetera on top of it all. I am not photogenic at all. And there's like six different underlines under all which is like you know a complete non sequitur to my capability in class where I thought it. Just add so that you know eighth grade problems. Yeah you can just see like so mechanically like how your brain starts piling and this this. It's like you're not even good at this but then I go on. I don't know why I am all worried. Though I got twenty out of twenty five on the AMC NC eight parentheses. American Mathematics Competition Eighth Grade. It's the best score on the school which might mean I get a pin slash plaque to add to my collection. I I may also get the opportunity to take a harder test for more presence. I hope it's a plaque. Instead of a pin placard fit better into my whole scheme of things on my trophy flush on man I was just remembering my sexiness of skipping soccer practice last year than Macron doc found out and he drove me to practice. Yeah so in seventh grade. I was on the school soccer team. And I'm yeah so I'm about to explain why didn't like it so my dad found. Oh any to practice. Even though I was late that soccer team was horrible. The girls right refocus and I had no good friends on the team. The girls never wanted to practice and excluded half the team from their little club but then sobbed and sobbed. When we lost the championship? Got It was such A. It was just a stupid game. I've never cried because sports except for once and I was incredibly tired right and I was really mad. Volleyball just lost the game to this horrible team and I got frustrated and lost my focus and I was mad at myself that was one hundred percent or run on in. This team was like all the popular girls who were like actually athletic and all the popular girls who weren't very athletic. Were on field hockey or Lacrosse. And they were like their own little club and I was like I just like soccer. Okay last paragraph it's ten thirty PM and even that we're not it doing anything much tomorrow. I should get some sleep. I don't know what I'll do about the whole eric thing. Maybe I'll see how tomorrow morning slash night goes. It will work great if he broke up with me in the morning Janis. I'm ninety eight percent. Sure I don't like Eric enough to continue our relationship past Christmas but parentheses as the teenage girl. I can never be one hundred percent. Sure I don't think he'll break up with me though. He really really loves me. Goodnight sweet jumbo low finance. Yeah so we've got like like perfectionism like trouble with my relationship. Like concerned about pink to sexual might have have a crush on a teacher girl. Soccer socks also I will. I mean that's pretty little liars. Oh my gosh. All of all of their struggles boom. Oh my gosh that is that is such a great journal. Entry though there's so many different layers what a funny like what funny insight into the the time like. You're you cared about and I feel like like line like as a teenage girl I can never be a hundred. It sure is so emblematic. Like this is what makes middle school so crazy. Is You just like you think that you feel the fear not even sat. Ah Yes and I remember like being fourteen fifteen whatever really feeling like this is a smart as I'm GonNa get like like this. I am wise like I know what I want like. These are the things and you know your teachers and parents are like. You don't know anything like you're still feeling like no I like I. I know this and now like a decade later look back were right. Yeah I mean I was like wow like I am I I know I know thing my friend taught me what motor boating is so yeah I know things. Oh my gosh honestly all of these entries. I feel transported back to middle school whether I wanted to or not. Oh so that was great. That was always so fun. I don't really know too close. I never do. Yeah you kind of need like a punchy like end of show like Dina there's a podcast called spirits and it's like they like ooh drink booze. has stories and they learn tagline is stay creepy stay cool. It's like very snappy. We need to be. Yeah that's like the aggressive Like shout she might thirty listener. I feel you have to have more than thirty days after this episode. No It's good. You know I wanNA keep on out into no. I'll just name name Amal set new your names in my end of tagline. Whatever will just be me reading your names like a pay tron list? Yeah in the in the future. Sure you'll have a patriotic and then it'll take you like three minutes to say the Patriots. Here's like you. Oh Yes yes you should do the idea all right. I'll add that in.

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Hannah | Revisiting Eighth Grade and Crushing on Teachers

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Hannah | Revisiting Eighth Grade and Crushing on Teachers

"I'm actually slightly afraid that I'll fall for a teacher but not too. There's so much to attack. They have a tiny itsy-bitsy crush on. You're you're listening to read it in veep with me Alina outsor- Hannah thank you so much for joining me today. Glad to be here thanks for joining my DM. I know so you dear listener last week I got a DM a direct message for the old listeners. You know all those out there from Hannah and she found the podcast via read it and set me a really great journal entry and said I'd love to do this and so here we are recording remotely. The Damn I sent you was actually the first time I've ever slid into someone's Dm the first experience good. Well I'm glad I could. I'm glad it could be your first hand today. We decided we're going to do in eighth grade themed episode. Have you seen that movie eighth grade with. Oh Gosh that was the most amazing and most like the cringe was visceral it. Everything was so bad. Takes you right back. I couldn't have said it better myself. Like that. was everyone's eighth grade experience in a nutshell. Yeah so that's what we're hoping to bring to life today with some of our Eighth Grade Journal Okay so for context you you were in school. In North Carolina Carolina is that true China. I grew up in Chapel Hill. Where our UNC is very cool? Yeah all right well all starts off with one that I found so something you should know about me it in eighth grade. Is that how it to one of those like the accelerated program schools so everyone was nerd. Sir like there wasn't like the cool kids were also we were all nerds. It's which really messed me up for them when I went to a regular high school but my my dad taught in that program in our like there was like a magnet program within our middle or was in our middle schools and you could take testing qualify and I got in I was like I can't do another three years of my dad. Like teach me because he would always be like. We'd be in the car. Like how many different permutations do you think there are of license plates. Let's see if we can figure that out right now. Oh my gosh. That sounds awfully like my dad. anytime ask for math homework help on math homework he. He's a programmer so he'd be like let's build a program In it'll solve it for you and I'm like well that's nice but like I can't use that on a test. One of my tests in high school math was literally programming calculators. We made a program for the quadrant formula that I like used up until the sat's or the AP and they made you delete all the programs in your calculator Yeah I definitely never got that programming programming bug even though like if we were like board in Church or whatever and all the other kids could draw pictures my dad would be like right out the the binary table and you'd be like zero one one zero. Okay so this though. You're you're in your little nerd in minored group and this is Thursday December eleventh nine eighteen. PM My room dear Penny Penguin. That's the name of this particular journal. Yesterday I didn't eat anything and felt sick but today okay so ryan has me under his spell but I know he doesn't like me More more than I'm funny. Cute and fun to flirt with I. I know he doesn't think Oh. She dresses modestly. Oh Oh she is a virtuous young woman perfect to marry. Oh she's perfect to raise a family with now did you were you. Were you hoping pig. That was how he was the goal. Kevin goal of this eighth grade. Mind to have a in hopes that I have for fourteen year old boys to already be thinking. This girl's perfect to raise up a family real marriage or two you know. I know he doesn't like me like that. I wonder if you think about me. I mean I look at his wife is going to be so lucky to have someone so polite and respectful and I look at Bryant in go. He's so polite. I know he would never hurt me so I wonder if any boys look at me and say Alina is so carrying. I know she would raise it. My Kids wonderfully Love Alina spoiler alert. They did not do not the reality I had to learn. Only oh my gosh middle school boys do not know anything anything and they were definitely not thinking about what kind of girl would make the best wife material like. Why did I even think that they would think that is my is? That's where I'm embarrassed. I Ah I love how I describe guys. And all the people on your show so far have been describing the people that they like and like the specific adjectives that they latch onto. Who like you said polite just other nice polite like just? Oh Yeah I really go for that again. You know it was like the older you get your edges change a little bit in. I don't think I've ever described someone is interested in lately as polite like it's such a old fashioned in word but it's a it's a good one. Yeah it's it's good but I think in the at this age someone was like. Oh Yeah my boyfriend's very polite light. I'd be like you have no sex anyway. I don't know where Bryant is these days or what team he plays for right but he was so polite and so good at musical theatre. Well I hope that he has a very wonderful full partner. Who appreciates his Such a diplomatic way. I agree all right. Let's hear what you're getting is so excited so I did not name any of my other journals but this journal has a name because like the company is just like a really giant journal. Well and I think like on the packaging somewhere. It said the word jumping so this journalist dear John so this is July eighteenth two thousand eight so the summer before for Eighth Grade Dear Jumbo juicy details coming right up. I kissed my boyfriend. I'm not going to tell my mom or my friends. I might if they ask but I won't go into details. It was on last Friday July eleventh. We were at Durham Bulls baseball game and there were the fireworks at the end. There was romantic parentheses sort of music playing overhead parentheses. Good vibrations it'd be voice one of their most non-romantic sort of romantic. I have very a classic musical taste and like I will like no a single song by an artist and it will not be as popular song or the song that like makes makes the most sense for an eighth grader too. I think there's one later where I don't know a famous song. I I'll come to that. So this very romantic riddick. Good vibrations going on. And he said he'd been thinking about kissing me and then had realized that he had to stop waiting for things to happen on their own. I smiled smiled nervously and then sort of leaned in and Kitin. I always thought that he gets me but I kissed him because like a leader boyfriend. I high school boyfriend. I was very proud of like little feminine hand for being the One to First but apparently this is just the thing that I did. Was this. Your first kiss okay. So this this is actually debatable. So in earlier in seventh grade at the end of the year this eighth grader asked me to dance editor dance while I was like you know lurking around trying to get the seventh grade of the I liked to notice me and so it was like okay. Obviously yes because you know you don't say no one as as good and then at the end of the song he kissed me like out of nowhere I was like. I don't know what broke away and then I was like okay. I guess we keep dancing now back to the end of the song so this is like very dramatic so great and then on Monday a he came up and asked me out and I was like. Okay yeah cause an eighth grader. Asked me all right and then I proceeded to avoid him for poorly the next four days and then on Thursday after school he asked for my home phone number I was like I'm sorry. This is like paddock. Call my home like I. I I was like this is way to. You personally cannot like invade my space so basically avoided him for a week like literally rotting away like down another hallway if I saw him coming and then like we literally had long conversation. It was him asking me for my home phone number so he could call call me. I think I was like why. Why do you? He's like so I can call you at your home because I didn't have a cell phone didn't get cell phones until software myself room rate right. I didn't have facebook until halfway through freshman year of high school when I was like please. All the club like events aren't facebook being left out of everything. I think I like Sir a giant fan about being left out my parents really. We socially stunned her. Yeah and I wasn't allowed to have so I had like all email like yeah I had a M and I remember. You could have like kind of away message or like tag grinds on. I don't know where I got this but I made mine. The Perfect slut award goes to you and A. and my friend's MOM message meal her. Am and she was like. Hannah's not allowed to talk to you until you change your away message and I was so oh embarrassed. I didn't really thought it was funny. Okay so I smiled nervously Asli and then sort of leaned in and kissed him. My heart was beating so fast and I could feel my hormones kicking in like crazy kind of startled me because the act itself kissing kissing is nothing special parentheses. I guess it's just that your bodies are so close and touching in such sensitive areas under her likes so honestly I truly feel like my first kiss. You're GONNA like wait. This is it weird thing like when you finally have it in. Yeah that's what a great eighth grade way of viewing it like. I guess it's just your body's close in touching in sensitive areas. Yeah and like I just remember like after this happens like we had gone to sit separately from his parents who were like at the they worked really duke or something so there is some function. That's why we got to tag along. But we found other seats unlike their fireworks at the end of the game. And so it was like actually legitimately like a pretty good first story so so this is why this is my first kiss than not the like weird dance guy. 'cause this is like I take I just remember like feeling like I was vibrating. The whole time after his parents came to us. And we were going home the Intel. They know they can tell. I'm like vibrate and I love that. Good vibration was playing in the background. No that is a cute. You started what happened. Where where is he now? What happened? Oh he went went to do and he played in their marching band. He played the trumpet and he met his wife there so they got married. He proposed on their graduation. They should do. They were both in the marching band. Cute so I found any follow up to my obsession. My Eighth Grade Obsession I should with Bryant. Is there a T.. On the end of that. That's not on some pretty pretty crazy names and like crazy spellings like I've seen Mackenzie spelled. Thirty different ways or my sisters have have friends. That are twins. And one's name is Mackenzie normal. The others is make Katy which gives me every time time Mick but you also so that the team and Brian again so specific this is at nine forty eighty four. PM written from my bed. It says dear penny today. I texted me. Send me a picture of you I replied in. May I ask why. And he said he wanted to show his friends what I look like. Unfortunately I had to send him a not so cute one but he said it was a nice picture. I'm just afraid to admit that he likes me because I can't give him my heart to tear apart like Jack and Kate did it. And then I have this picture of a heart and there's two missing chunks and I've labeled the Missing Chunks Jack in Gosh what like like me back. That's a bare minimum. It takes out my heart so cruel so I try to think he doesn't like me but it's hard because he's so sweet and Nice Ace. I'm sure he's a good kisser. With those full lips of his wound yesterday. I decided that I wanted to have a Christmas party but I wanted Brian Right to be there so I made sure he could come before. I invited anyone else. which haven't we all done that? He said he might be able to but hopefully he can side Dot Fun Times Alina. I wonder if he made it to my Christmas party. I can't remember. Isn't it weird like the things that you're this is. Why drilling is great? Because you realize things happen no recollection of love. But then if you read them like then those memories when you read the the memories are like when you read the Journal entries you're just transported reported back into that memory and yet so fun sometimes because you're like oh I forgot about this but certainly Sunday night been trying to do. Lately is not just like record the day to day events like a planner but also How I'm feeling at the time because I don't know I think it's I think one is a therapeutic thing to like right out how you're you're feeling like you processed way but to? It's also nice when I have those entries and I look back at. It transports me even more. Yeah yeah absolutely the funny thing to me is like it was so natural to like just like right exactly what I was feeling anytime in like my old journals. But now I have to consciously be like okay like how do you feel about like a mini therapist. But in this. It's like I'm so angry at my mom. And then the next sentence is like I love my best friend Riley. There's no there's a lot of non sequiturs in I know I know that feeling. Let's see what did we ended on a Bryant Journal Right. It's your turn okay. I'm so this is December. Eighteenth two two thousand eight dear jumbo. My lack of journaling is appalling. I am ashamed but with one hundred. Nineteen plus notebooks to tend to. It's hard to keep my priorities straight. One hundred nineteen plus notebooks. Okay so when I was little basically from like birth I wanted to be a writer and so every single like birthday. Christmas like grandparents came to visit like it's Easter. Like I would get a notebook and like every person Jason is like. We'll handle it to like right. Let me get excited. I really really have like over two hundred like either old school books that I've saved like notebooks. It's from With schoolwork but with all the notes that my friends are in the margins or like just like notebooks that I got his presence and a lot of them have like twenty pages written in them. Take a large number of that. Okay I can relate to that I mean I definitely don't have two hundred but I see how that could add up. They're all like in boxes of my parents adults now. Also I love how you start off apologizing for not writing in your journal because I feel like half of my journal entries. Just start off with me apologizing for not writing in my journal Yeah. TV to be fair like the previous journal entry was from August so they had been a while. Okay so it's hard to keep my priorities straight sort of like how in my life. I have so many things to do that. I can hardly keep up. It's very frustrating. strating not being perfect but as pleasantville points out. Perfect as deadly boring you know. Do you know that movie were they like go into the into the color. TV or or into the black and white TV or something and witherspoon learns life lessons as Pleasantville Pleasantville. points out so eloquent okay. If everyone who perfect I mean oh yeah so. Perfect is utterly boring hiring. If everyone were perfect I mean if only I were perfect it would be amazing. Probably not everyone would probably hate me but since I would be unhittable they they would all explode as there are conflicting feelings turned inward and then I would have to go pick up all the pieces of smoking flesh since I would always follow the laws. I think human flesh counts as litter. Oh Oh wait that's good lorraine okay. It's Um it's slightly like served until like a slightly morbid territory there. Yeah I thanks very attentive to the idea of water during this time because like the journal entry that I skipped over from August says I did do something very awesome awesome at the movies. Though the older teens were standing around and when they were leaving the Guy Through his empty Soda Cup on the floor I glare at them as they left and then went over and threw it away. I'm sure Eric Eric was impressed. I was so funny I love it. You thought that was journal Worthy you know. I've just like very proud of like by moral upstanding character like did you in the back of your mind things things that you are like your children children's children would be reading these journals. Oh one hundred percent unlike waiting for the lifetime movie to come out it exactly and so at that you need to show your character and you picking up movie litter is. There's no better way to show it. That's true it's a good example. Show not tall. which was like certainly my my weakest point in my childhood writing? Okay so after we pass the human flesh being litter Dr Jump into and so now eric and I have been going out for more than seven months. I don't think it's a good sign in seven months. We've only kissed seven times. Who who anti so needy? He thinks flooding with Harrison. And I can't flirt and then there's like a little angry face emoji. It's like this time I don't know so I knew that it was an Emoji. But there's little interface that looks like a modern day coach. What I wonder is? Are you angry because you can't flirt or your angered because your boyfriend thinks you're flirty thirty. I suspect it's a mixture of both the I can't flirt. is an all caps and underlined like four or five done. I told him several times through email and then he yelled at me again. All kinds you were flirting with him. Yeah so we said okay so this was the thing about this boyfriend. He did not really talk because he was just very quiet and shy. And we basically only had like real conversations over email and it mostly consisted of him and being like I love you. You're so great and being like you're cool man thought like I really sincerely wish I had this email account still issued issued. It was like an old earthlink account that is probably like many years since wipe if I could access my old email. My old like there's nothing I would pay so so much money for that. Yeah so he yelled at me. I'm going to house tomorrow night for a movie and I turned down down a girls movie night at Jenny's for that. I'm really sorry. I'm rather annoyed him now. Maybe I won't go with him in the morning. Sometimes I walk to do the Commons with him. which was Big Hallway ever than sometimes. I stay in the library with my girl. Space Very large space friends. I would rather stay with my friends because e slash C. They are much better conversation. He just can't hold up his end of the conversation with me. Maybe I should break up with him but I don't want to hurt him. God I am such a people pleaser. Hey at least yourself aware about. Yeah this this journal entry is interesting because I feel like Like actively having to work on. Now I'm like an adult and there aren't people giving you like positive feedback in like star stickers on your work all the time so it's very very funny to me that like in eighth grade. I felt like perfectionist. Tendencies that I was like. This is something that I'm struggling with what you felt the end. You realize that like I think it took me a long time to realize that I'm a people pleaser like I don't think any journals in middle school would admit admit to that. I think my mom was definitely kind of like the like open hippie. Mon- like at one point. She was like you know just to have sex until you're seventeen at least then you like you know you'll know you'll know you actually won. You can make decisions for yourself when you're seventeen but like you know all the all the parents of my friends who were like during this time period going through their like Catholic confirmation. We'll probably have been very traumatized to know that this is what my mother was telling everyone. That's amazing though. I think we need more hormone like that. My Mom is in a way like that. To where like the community. I'm in it's like us. Don't talk about it like Hush Hush and and I have this distinct memory and my mom was in Kosovo Sorry mom but I have this distinct memory story of US going out to eat at a restaurant at my sister was like ten at the time and she goes mom. What's a blow job and and my mom just say go right there in the restaurant just explained it to my sister and we were all my siblings were so mortified but in a way it's kind whatever -freshing you know like honesty? Yeah I remember I remember when I was like maybe eight my brother asked how babies ABC's remained and my dad like gout Napkins and was like drying like sperm and eggs to like explain it to and we're like slightly like too young to be like like completely mortified by this. It was it was. It was very scientific very informative. Yeah that's nice anyway. So because she's he's like that you think that she helped you realize like Oh you're a people pleaser. Hannah had like the ideas of like. I don't want to via people pleaser and like it's good to be like a bad ass and like do your own thing and like forget what other people say like. I very much like absorbed that what you don't WanNa be like that so I think I was like disappointed whenever I was like to attend to. What other people? Yeah okay that makes sense okay. Okay so God I'm such a people. Pleaser it sucks. I wish he'd just break up with me. I wouldn't even care if you thought it was cheating on him or something I would. They think you and walk away leaving him rather yeah I would probably cry that night but only for the end of something that was decidedly more positive than negative than and if we broke up. I could quote flirt exasperated face with guys at my own leisure but leisure is very very misspelled. Could boys shop. That's actually pretty fun. You could boys shop young. Okay then we take like a really steep steep swerve a to do territory so like intersperse with one of your other journals and leave it on a cliffhanger. Okay very slight slight cliffhanger while so this one I talked about this a little bit before or at least I think I've talked about David. Dave virtual data on at least episode. That comes up. I'll just read it. It's January seven ten twenty six. PM My bed dear penny. I'm obsessed I just when I don't like anyone I see David Arch Aleta and fall head over heels. Great not I know. I'm not going and married him. Although my name would sound great you can't get him out of my head and he doesn't even know I exist list but it's spelled like excess. This just makes me want to become famous more Disney or or Nickelodeon really needs to hire me. I can make it. I may not be able to sing like Miley Cyrus but I can act today. Billy my brother told me that if I married David Arch Aleta. He would give me a hundred thousand dollars. I would love to marry him because he's perfect. We have the same standards. He's gorgeous respectful and he hasn't had his first kiss yet either. Gosh how old was he. At this point I probably like eighteen. He was born in nineteen ninety. I had to look him up. I have no idea who this guy is. Like the name David Archer Letta. I'm like guys famous humans on American idol and he was on one episode of Hannah Montana in one episode of I carly I mean to be fair he was acute. Yes and at this book You Jim I know you was in your area. I had a chance like this isn't like me. and Freddie highmore the more I could meet this guy but but yeah and he hasn't had his first kiss yet either. He's waiting for the perfect person an moment just like me me but I need to remember that. There's somebody out there. Somebody may just for me helped me to get over. David Love Alina. Where where are you getting this information like? He seemed to know a lot about Freddie. Highmore and David Arquette is like in our life. Do you remember the magazine J fourteen or J. Thirteen eighteen. Something like that absolutely have. It was like people magazine for fourteen. Eighteen year olds. I think I think I might be able to picture like a what the cover might look like with. Lots of like little cutouts Bright Greens yellow highlighter. I wonder what it was like human garbage but it did give me a lot of information like they once had this full like special with David David Archer Leta and that's how I learned about like him not having his first kiss yet waiting for the perfect person in moment what. What was your first kiss breath? So I've I've been really obsessed since a little child if we haven't been able to figure that out yet with having like a perfect story like like with my cancer with the person I'm GonNa marry like the meet cute kind of you know like a cinematic movie story and so any time like growing up if someone wanted to kiss me and I didn't think like Oh. This is not going to be a fun story to retail. Like I would kiss him back like I would just dodge it which is dumb but whatever so so anyway. I didn't. I didn't have my first until I was nineteen. Okay but it was a perfect story In my nineteen year old brain read and it was the it was twelve twelve twelve and twelve twelve. Oh my gosh in this like a key component of your plan. Yeah I mean like it wasn't like what I was every year like. Oh It's eleven at eleven eleven But it was when I started dating the like it was crushing on this kid. I remember thinking like Oh my gosh. Twelve twelve twelve is almost coming up like that would be such a great moment for reverse kiss and I actually I. I'm a go getter and so what I had planned is thought it'd be really cute to have my first kiss in the library in the art history section of the books because like this this kid and I we were both obsessed with art history and it was kind of like our thing and so for Christmas I had. This is so Dorky but I had bought him a art history textbook like the Apr History Textbook that he had used in high school. I found an old copy and I bought audit and I went through and I like made a bunch of jokes and comments in like wrote a bunch of notes in it and then I hit the book in the section of the library and I took took him up there. And I'm like Oh jared look they have your favorite textbook and he pulls it out. And he's like flipping through it and like he missed the note at the beginning. That said I like this from Lena. Whatever he's agreeing with all the notes that I had written in there and meet not subtle? I'm like ooh I love this piece in. I like flip to the kiss or like just any like statue or repainting where they're kissing. I would like pointed out Hoping that he would like kiss me in the library but he that's very clear segment. Now I feel like it too. That he didn't so then we're walking home and I'm disappointed in. It's snowing and I was. It's like it would be really cool that get my first kiss tonight. Because it's like twelve twelve twelve at twelve twelve and he was Zyppah Fascinating he looks at his watching us. Let's only eleven o'clock right now so like Like the only okay. I guess it's not happening but like then we kept walking around campus and at some point I can t kept looking at his watch so at some point I realize it's like oh he's just like trying to kill time until it's actually twelve twelve. I mean you you did make Echeverri specific request. It's true I mean I got when I asked so anyway eventually. Hit twelve twelve and then we kissed and the roses assery. But that's the story GonNa tell at any party now. They're like everyone go round until your first kiss store the latest which one very fun. Anyway I WANNA hear part two of this okay for part two of this very long drawn tree so I was just saying that I was very excited to boys and how that's actually pretty fun. Amen I'm actually Slightly afraid that I'll fall for a teacher but not to say there's so much to unpack. We're having a tiny itsy-bitsy crush on Mr but probably only because he's a mature guy parentheses a rare thing and I see him five days a week for forty six minutes four now. It's longer classroom. It would totally be sick. Not In a good way sick if I had a fling with teacher crannies who's married. I think but I can daydream. All I want and just saying that if I were a grownup he's the kind of guy I would like. Also Caffeine thinks he's hot and then I have a little drying of a campfire for like how hot he is. But then I wrote a label that fire and the Prince. My drawing skills capital are lacking or lackey also a reflection this is teacher now teaches with my father and my dad hates him because he's a terrible teacher and like looking back act like I remember my friends and I went back. When you're a ninth graders to like help are like favorite art? Teachers chaperone a middle school. Dance or something. And they're all of these girls. Is that really madly in love with him. And I'm like there might be something wrong if like every year like teenage girls or follow with you and like he also like lettuce. Set the seating chart me specifically in my one friend in my class that the seating chart for every class period every quarter because we just because we asked so you you would like to make all of my friends together put people like who were there. Crushes like just on the edge of where you were but like I was like you must never tell anyone ever the. I'm the one who does this. Because otherwise we would like reveal way too much about who I it would be telling. That's amazing gene. It's so funny right so then moving right along. I cry so hard at night. Sometimes yesterday I cried so hard because I just finished a book. Similar to forever called lost parentheses her virginity and also dad was being an idiot. He he can be really unfair especially to Mac. Sometimes Max's my brother. It's so depressing. When a girl in a book loses her Virginia Some Guy She's in love with and then their relationship Russian ship immediately falls apart? Wow I've had a lot to rant and rave about nearly two whole pages I have to agree. I think I feel like the majority like the WII novels. I read the thing I got out of the most was like not to have sex because the oh boy which is going to break your heart and that you were. Did you ever read. That book called. Go Ask Alice Yeah. It was this there was supposed to be the diary of this teenager like a real life teenager so it was like by anonymous and she like guests guests until I could drugs and like ruined her life and then like right when everything seems like it's turned itself around and she found herself with a Christian boy and then like the last entry is like two weeks later she died. It's unclear if it was an overdose or an accident like waffle turns out that this book was not written by a real teenager and that the author like who later wrote like a ton of these kind of fake teenage things was basically like promoting. Like I think she was. Maybe Mormon Mormon and like you know like the Anti anti-drug like anti like drugs and tattoos alcohol and like homosexuality and like how all of these he's will lead you to send basically so all of the books and was like a teenager dying her whole her. I feel like I that was also part of the reason of like me holding out for my first kiss for so long. I didn't WanNa just kiss someone in the not feel like special like that. It was just whatever you know what I mean because of books like this where it's like that's yeah just horrible. It's just horrible around rebel. But do you remember when Taylor Swift wrote that one song about her friend losing virginity fifteen. No I was not like a super dedicated Taylor Swift Fan. I feel like I listened to tear drops a mega star of story the level. I'm at two but I remember my friends. They've lead like all play the song because I want to say the song's called fifteen but all the ts with fans ends can come at me. But I remember my friends like one particular would play all the time and just be like this is what keeps me chaste because I don't Wanna end up like Taylor swift's friend. Oh my gosh which I feel like adults have no idea like the league. There's all these like. I just remember all these casual comments throughout my childhood that like my parents are adults would say one time I was like well Mama you told me like I need to be the mature one on because like Max he's younger. He can't control his emotions as much and like I took that like Soda Heart acting ridiculously in these situations she was like. Why are you doing this will? Will you told me that one time that I need to mature. And she was like dude. I did not mean like six three picture. I don't like to the far the end. We don't really know if someone tells us something like it must be true to the ends of the earth like when you have to follow that I also remember in that same friend Before she was a really avid reader but she would take sharp in any time there was like a word in the book like a swear word or dislike Nadi word she could sharpie out your lime like she their own books but like she would just censor her own. I have a friend who had done we in in in who who I think it was. Maybe in ninth grade she sh- some boy had like made some joke to her about eating out or something and and she like did not know dot net like she was like restaurants eating food and so we made like a composition book for her was like inserts from like cosmopolitan like sex position pages. And like there's like all of these like details. We had this really elaborate like based system about like you know what like halfway to shortstop the things like that and so we gave her this notebook with all of our collective sexual knowledge so that she would end to be caught unawares. Amazing I wish I I still had that like she has still does. She still has a apparently so she's she's also married now and we were just talking the other day Dan apparently she found it and sold box when they were moving in like she and her husband looked at and she's like you know like there's some legit types of that so it may still will be vigorous exercise just like I have some very vivid memories of my friends. Educating me on sexual things it's like I can. I remember the day in place in outfit. I was wearing when somebody taught me what motor-boating meant. Oh my Gosh I still wish voting. I wish I could take back that day. Okay so so she continues kind of like more along along this track. Yeah it's I so okay so after talking about this book is it wrong to love suggestive songs in books. But every every time I wrote and it's a plus sign. I didn't bother too much with too much. I love songs. Like addicted by Saving Abel Bowl and Candy Shop by Fifty Cent Candy shop was my favorite song from like sixth through eighth grade. So savory the sexiness vibes live from the songs. And Burke like with by Donald Harrington which is like a very adult book parents not censor my reading like this book Doug includes like a sex scene with a ghost and like it's like you're as literature it's ver- anyways and lost it by Kristen Tracy. I also go back back and reread the intimate slash sexy parts in books. I love reading the honeymoon. Part of breaking dawn part it was very. I mean that's like when you read that it like it's it makes sense how fifty shades of grey started off as a twilight fantastic. Oh absolutely yeah. I don't think it's wrong to be curious about sex and stuff but maybe I love provocative could've stuff a bit too much so again like my mom's like good teaching getting in there but I'm still a little bit considering I love all the self regulating that it goes down in your journal. Yeah I'm like let's take too long. Let's bring it back this stuff. Yeah there's like a funny part are at the end of the second of explains that actually okay so sorry to get a bit heavy there. I'm just stressed about Eric. And is relationship in my entire future. I don't think I did did very well compared to high usually do on my midterms. And it's making me nervous now. There's a lot of ours a hate being being a perfectionist. I got a ninety three percent on my l a mid term and I'm freaking out about my future am I work ethic and etcetera on top of it all. I am not photogenic at all. And there's like six different underlines under all which is like you know a complete non sequitur to my capability in class where I thought it. Just add so that you know eighth grade problems. Yeah you can just see like so mechanically like how your brain starts piling and this this. It's like you're not even good at this but then I go on. I don't know why I am all worried. Though I got twenty out of twenty five on the AMC NC eight parentheses. American Mathematics Competition Eighth Grade. It's the best score on the school which might mean I get a pin slash plaque to add to my collection. I I may also get the opportunity to take a harder test for more presence. I hope it's a plaque. Instead of a pin placard fit better into my whole scheme of things on my trophy flush on man I was just remembering my sexiness of skipping soccer practice last year than Macron doc found out and he drove me to practice. Yeah so in seventh grade. I was on the school soccer team. And I'm yeah so I'm about to explain why I didn't like it so my dad found. Oh any to practice. Even though I was late that soccer team was horrible. The girls right refocus and I had no good friends on the team. The girls never wanted to practice and excluded half the team from their little club but then sobbed and sobbed. When we lost the championship? Got It was such A. It was just a stupid game. I've never cried because sports except for once and I was incredibly tired right and I was really mad. Volleyball just lost the game to this horrible team and I got frustrated and lost my focus and I was mad at myself that was one hundred percent or run on in. This team was like all the popular girls who were like actually athletic and all the popular girls who weren't very athletic. Were on field hockey or Lacrosse. And they were like their own little club and I was like I just like soccer. Okay last paragraph it's ten thirty PM and even that we're not it doing anything much tomorrow. I should get some sleep. I don't know what I'll do about the whole eric thing. Maybe I'll see how tomorrow morning slash night goes. It will work great if he broke up with me in the morning Janis. I'm ninety eight percent. Sure I don't like Eric enough to continue our relationship past Christmas but parentheses as the teenage girl. I can never be one hundred percent. Sure I don't think he'll break up with me though. He really really loves me. Goodnight sweet jumbo low finance. Yeah so we've got like like perfectionism like trouble with my relationship. Like concerned about pink to sexual might have have a crush on a teacher girl. Soccer socks also I will. I mean that's pretty little liars. Moolah oh my gosh all of all of their struggles boom. Oh my gosh that is that is such a great journal. Entry though there's so many different layers what a funny like what funny insight into the the time like. You're you cared about and I feel like like line like as a teenage girl I can never be a hundred. It sure is so emblematic. Like this is what makes middle school so crazy. Is You just like you think that you feel. You're not even sat. Ah Yes and I remember like being fourteen fifteen whatever really feeling like this is a smart as I'm GonNa get like like this. I am wise like I know what I want like. These are the things and you know your teachers and parents are like. You don't know anything like you're still feeling like no I like the I know this and now like a decade later look back were right. Yeah I mean I was like wow like I am I I know I know thing my friend taught me what motor boating is so yeah I know things. Oh my gosh honestly all of these entries. I feel transported back to middle school whether I wanted to or not. Yeah oh so that was great. That was always so fun. I don't really know I never do. Yeah you kind of need like a punchy like end of show like Dina there's a podcast called spirits and it's like they like ooh drink booze. has stories and they learn tagline is stay creepy stay cool. It's like very snappy We need to be. Yeah that's like the aggressive Like shout she might thirty listener. I feel you have to have more than thirty days after this episode. No It's good. You know I wanNA keep on out into no. I'll just name name Amal set new your names in my end of tagline. Whatever will just be me reading your names like a pay tron list? Yeah in the in the future. Sure you'll have a patriotic and then it'll take you like three minutes to say the Patriots. Here's like you. Oh Yes yes you should do the idea all right. I'll add that in.

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Why David Archuleta Called His Album Therapy Sessions

Direct from Hollywood

03:00 min | 6 months ago

Why David Archuleta Called His Album Therapy Sessions

"Brighten your day with an ice, cold starbucks, cold brew, smooth and refreshing. It might just be the little lift you need like a cool breeze on a sun soaked afternoon. Download the starbucks APP to order ahead. We're all living in the ripple effects of history. A butterfly flaps, its wings in China in the nineteenth century and your Uber. Driver misses the turn for the airport or an eccentric genius Vince Air, conditioning and change the course of American politics. I'm Sean Braswell host of the thread and I'm back with a brand new podcast presented by ozzy called flashback, a series of stories of unintended consequences listen to flashback on the iheartradio APP, apple, podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Direct from Hollywood American idol's season seven runner up David. Archer has a new album called therapy sessions, and that title will spot on David Explains to popcrush part of my therapy was literally working on this album, being able to be open about what I was worried about what I thought about myself feeling down, feeling, anxious and depressed, all of that I was able to get out on this album and David's hope is that singing about his struggles will make a difference to similar people listening he adds it makes me feel really good to fulfill the purpose of this project to help people through whatever they're going through. Therapy sessions is out now. That's direct from Hollywood. I'm Jensen, carpenter I want you to listen to the new podcast from Fort Media An iheartradio called the no sports report with Janssen cars. You see I'm a comedy writer and a die. Hard sports fan was terribly missing the athletes I love so much so every episode I'm talking to them the best. Coaches commentators legends from around the world to see what they're doing now. They were all stuck on our caps on this podcast. Hero sports figures are entertained themselves and their families find out if they're staying in shape if their kids them during home school. Did they almost burn down the house trying to make their own bread? Are they sleeping jerseys and like I do know just meet all right. Some of my favorite episodes have been hearing boxing legend Sugar, Ray Leonard Talk about staying in shape in a driveway. Working now ten is working whatever you can do. Fuel kill much better or having Jay Williams explained his crazy NBA. Crucify idea. Cruise liners are massive, okay and getting Olympic Sweetheart Adam ripon critique, my foreign team V that screens to me. I don't care. Listen to the no sports report now and subscribe on the iheartradio, APP, apple, podcasts or wherever you get podcast. Jordan Magic Bird Barkley. Some of the greatest players to ever grace, the court play together as a team only once the nineteen ninety two Olympic. Dream, team. I'm Jack McCallum. Sports illustrated writer, best-selling author, and now host of a new podcast, the Dream Team tapes the real story of the greatest team in NBA history here, the whole story straight from the voices of the legends themselves from diversion PODCASTS, listen to the Dream Team tapes on the iheartradio, APP on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

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116. Voice Artist Peter Hollens describes The Epic Hand Washing Song & more!

Your Online Coffee Break

21:18 min | 8 months ago

116. Voice Artist Peter Hollens describes The Epic Hand Washing Song & more!

"Really good you pay. We'll come to your online coffee break where we discussed bite-size topics that inspire educate and entertain. Here's your host a software innovator award winning marketer and astronomy and space bus shucks fields. Hello thanks for joining me today for your online coffee break today. I'd like to introduce my special guest Peter Hollands. Everything you're about to hear is made by the human voice in mouth. Peter is an entrepreneur educator and is best known as a classically trained vocal artist specializing in a cappella music on Youtube and facebook is. Is this just fantasy see Connie scape from as a youtube sensation his content has earned over five million followers and over a billion total views shoe shine shimmering rings? You tell me Princess No. When did you us let your Peter was a founding member of the Youtube Creator? Advisory Board and has collaborated and performed with many outstanding artists including David Archie. Letta Brian Wilson Jason Mraz Gladys Knight and Lindsey Stirling Chemicals. Recently Peter debuted the epoch. Handwashing saw a new musical parody to encourage good hygiene and social distancing with one hundred percent of the proceeds donated to global giving corona virus refund. Just give it to you because I would be online coffee break Peter. Thank you so much for joining me today. Really appreciate it absolutely. It's my pleasure. Well I I love the epic handwashing song and video. It's Hilarious. It's fun is for a great cause and as I understand what I'm really impressed by is one hundred percent of proceeds are going to be donated to the global giving advice relief fund. Tell me more about that and how you came up with this awesome idea as everyone is aware right now. We are in a high anxiety time and as someone who creates for a living a someone who fights mental illness myself. The one thing I can do to to help is to do what I love and do what I do. Best which is to create and so I couldn't even get my own five-year-old to wash his hands correctly. And I said you know what I can fix this with the song so I did some. I did some due diligence. I found basically the top fifty most watched viral videos last five years. I picked out the ones that I thought would make the most sense and be within the confines of like that twenty seconds. Cdc recommendation of length. And I started Contacting some of my songwriter friends. We we wrote you know the eleven songs that we did and we came up with this and we worked really really hard because we were so passionate about doing something to to effect change because right now we have so little that we can control and I thought we can control how we wash our hands and so many of us. Don't wash your hands correctly. I was not washing my hands correctly. I see guidelines I was like we can go like this. And then like this and they get the top of the hands in the thumbs. I was like wow okay well if I didn't know how to do that and I'm forty than most people probably don't know either so I can make this song. I can help people even if it only changes a few people wash their hands right and that can possibly save them from getting sick. It was worth it and it was great distraction to your guy. Maclean IS THE FAST. Take out from the start to the finish. That's because that's amazing Gr- great quality and all the creativity that went with it. Oh thank you so much You know what from concept to execution it was. It was nine days While with which. I was really proud epic gathering. We're in the middle of a pandemic and everybody is very busy with trying to control their children and their own anxiety and so one of the cool things that I get to do. Right now Which is such an interesting angle to look at. It is that I have always created in my house. I have always recorded in my bedroom that you're seeing here on this skype and I've always shut my videos on my garage so I can keep up extremely high production quality content when people who are brilliant but have huge teams. Jimmy Fallon are not able to. So I think it's kind of an almost. It almost gives me even more reason to work even harder to try to create content to provide levity to provide education in this trying time which is which is. Why we're you know three days out from releasing the handwashing video and I already finished writing the follow up which is all about you know quarantine doing the right thing and staying inside. You know utilizing the same educational workflow. We haven't finalized a charity for this. I'm looking to see if I can maybe figure out a A A a charity to provide food to the children who went to school to get fed. You know like there's the low income family. So we're doing some due diligence on that and so I'm gonNA keep on creating I. That's all I do. Aww casket kind of a silly question but are he's our proceeds raised just by watching the video alone. Is that how people can help? So the best way to to help honestly is to spread the video because what that does is it gets. It gets education and awareness of not only the charity but also how to wash our hands so we can save ourselves the faster we can. We can do hygiene The more we can protect people that can't protect themselves but streaming of the of of the music on any Streaming Platform Apple. Itunes Google play on your Alexa purchasing it on itunes everything that will go one hundred percent proceeds to Google Dot Org Corona Virus Relief Fund in Perpetuity. They own the masters now awesome but streaming of the video. No because ad revenue is so small. And I'd rather not put ads on the video so people don't not watch it right in the beginning. Because it's not it's not worth it because there's so much value in my opinion on digesting it and having being your subconscious while you hopefully wash your hands and you're like why am I singing. These really strange words to this Maroon. Five Song you know so true. Can you just a little bit more about global giving itself? How you chose that. Yeah so I had four hours to choose a charity while And I went through all of the Colonel Virus Relief Funds. I did my due diligence on the websites that grade charities because global giving has such an incredibly high rating and because one of my peers had already done a charity Push with them two days earlier. The try guys from buzzfeed. They do amazing work. They're very very intelligent. I call them up. I was like hey what. What about this charity? Why did you choose them? And so I got feedback from somebody. I trusted right there. I did my due diligence on their numbers to get tremendous ratings tremendous four star ratings which is like the best you can get for charities on all the websites hand. Yeah I went with them. I still like I said I have this impetus to to have the next charity. Be for Making sure that we are feeding the children. That aren't being fed right now in school. Because I think that's another thing that's just so vital absolutely so that's what I'm looking at for for the next one but yeah I chose global giving because they have a phenomenal reputation. They're really easy to work with the woman that I spoke to was just absolutely lovely and delightful and like I said I. I don't think this is the time to be a perfectionist. When I was working on this video I was like I give it a round of notes. I could work on it more. I was like it doesn't matter I just didn't get this out there. 'cause the earlier we affect change the better right. This is edible snowball effect. We have to we have to get ahead of the virus which is Tough yeah and I commend you. Peter you have such wonderful talent. I love video hustle. Love all your other amazing work. I've been a Fan Josh. I mean you've got so many parody videos so it's not a new thing for you to come up with this. I want to hear if Rick how you got started understand. You earn your degree in vocal performance from the University of Oregon. Go ducks ducks. So now you have over five million followers and over a billion a billion with a beef use of your content. How did that happen? Get started on this and my mom forced me into choir. When I was going into high school mom knows best fighter and say well. You know what guys don't sing. Only girls saying well she was right. I was wrong and it's going to the University of Oregon full ride to become a director because my co director changed my life so significantly I I wasn't able to pull it off on the piano. A my left hand wouldn't wouldn't work that out so I had to become a just like a you know a full ride on on the classical voice performance opera thing to get to finalize my degree. I promised my graduate. That was a tough call with all the performing. I wanted to do right. But but I fell in love with Cappella music. I fell in love with the human voice everything in that video. That you hear the epic every everything I do is just human voice from the drums to the base of the everything so that you realize that I thought I know some of them. I knew they were all voices. I didn't realize that all of them you know you're wow that's impressive so I have a very small niche. A lot of people think it's really Dorky. I think it's really cool. I detail Dork. Yeah so I started. Nocco group in love with Capella fell in love with the studio. When we went to record our first album I fell in love with the girl who who founded the female Acapella Group on campus Which later became the premise to the movie and the Book? Pitch Perfect which might have a Mickey Rabkin wrote. That book came and interviewed US Multiple Times. Where referred to as the Danny Sandy of Acapella in that book and so my wife's Acapella group at the University of Oregon DC later became the Beleza pitch perfect later on after recording about thirty acapella groups around the nation I got a mild group to go Perform on the TV show the SING OFF. On NBC. Oh yeah so that gave me a little bit of an eye opening to the L. A. World and all these young singers having this real huge drive to make it. I never really had that. So I started turning the MIC on myself and stopped recording college. Kids which was really annoying. After I started thirty in working with eighteen year olds. Yeah sure and so yes. I started during the Mike Myself after the experience on the TV show. And even though I had like four or five Solos on national television. That truly didn't do anything for me in twenty ten but what what what did was just the overall passion for like. We'll they're doing it. I can do that. Let let's let's do this. And so I taught myself recording engineering earlier in my life and I saw people on Youtube doing this youtube thing and I was like what is this. This seems like this might actually be a business so I started teaching myself video editing. And I've always been self do or and I've always been a huge dork and loving computers and so I just isolated myself until I got that Squared away and he started remake. I started making these acappella videos and it ended up turning itself into a business. And you know I never really had like a huge viral smashing hit. That changed my life overnight. It's always just been like right. This worked out pretty well. Let's go to the next one. This worked out pretty well. Let's go to the next one so important so common because a lot of people think. Oh one instant hit. Hey you're there but now it's that hard work and persistence and seeing what works and making a better. That makes so much sense. I wouldn't want to put the one hit wonder on on my worst enemy. I feel like the fat like you know. Everybody says that but the faster you go up the faster you fall down because you don't learn along the way and you have to fail so many times to truly be able to build a career in music now you you. You still need to build yourself up almost like a silicon valley startup were. Yeah you the old music career doesn't exist anymore and I think what I'm doing is kind of like the new thing. I'm I'm building a digital media company. My Product is is door cal cappella songs through the distribution of videos. But you've also you've worked with such amazing talent. I mean we have Lindsey Stirling. I I have to admit I I love your scarring parody. I think that's breaking them. But you've also worked with Gladys Knight. Brian Wilson for the Beach Boys. David Archer led many more. What's it like working with such amazing hustle named doing what I do is so incredibly isolating creating an Acapella song takes just so many hours and hours of work. I finally get to work with other voices and other humans not only is that just so needed and rewarding But then working with people who you look up to so much. It is the holy grail of of what I do Collaboration in general Really saves me from the isolated work of of being youtuber. Yeah I I think it's so interesting you you can look at some of these studies and some of these Not Test these on the data from younger. Children saying what? What do you want to be when you grow up right now? It's like number. One thing is youtube or and. I'm like this is such a difficult thing. We have to work so hard on this treadmill that is just excel beyond belief and we have to fight to keep our heads above water. Because we're going up against media companies now and that's the same way. The Algorithm works in the same. We have to run their business and and it's very isolating and it's very mentally exhausting but Working with people like David Archer Letta. Who Dude is so talented. Able to record him on a couple songs and he's just so incredibly talented. And Lindsey stirling was the first person that I was able to ever collaborate with and she taught me man. She taught me so much that was probably one of the most powerful relationships I've ever had and never will have because I went into that week working with Lindsay thinking that every single person in the music world was my competitor. Because that's what we're brainwashed to think right with all these we're charting things and trying to be number one and selling and she taught me to treat my peers as collaborators and not competition and that changed everything for me that makes so much sense because I imagine it also helps you with your creativity as well. I was GONNA ask you. How do you keep the is coming? How do you keep them fresh? Initially in the beginning the ideas came solely from me Now I actually get all of my ideas from my community. Not as they're my like and our team like you know in the past too many times you'd have an age. You're GONNA do these songs. Because this is going to get you on the radio my my audience and my my community they choose my songs and I literally have spreadsheets spreadsheets of tens of thousands of votes that. I have my team like tally up. And I have a messenger brought system that if that like people type into song and it's adds another talion so when songs get high enough enough requests. I just do them. Yeah so I've made entire albums literally because my audience has asked for like I wasn't a huge fan of of Lord of the Rings Music and they recommended it and I started falling in love with it was so beautiful and so I did it and you know. And and and so yeah. That's a lot of ideas. Come from that. I mean sometimes like the one that we just did for this epidemic was just such a like A. I have to do this and I have to do this now. And it's like fifty other songs we're working on the I was going to ask you. I know you're you're actually falling doing another song. That's related to the pandemic. But what else are you working on? What? What's next for you but yeah sure. There's this really fun thing that you have to kind of do now on youtube which is basically create multiple different value propositions during and music video. You know Schumer a visual effects sound effects. Like you have to keep on doing more and more to keep the audience watching as one of the things. I've I've done previously that I'm doing again and releasing on April first is like a It's like it's an impression it's sounds so stupid. It's an impression competition And I'm doing it with one of my fellow peers. Who IS An impressionist pretty much. But he's also a classically trained opera singer so we are going to rick. Roll the world and release a video on April first That will be titled. I don't know whatever hit Song. Right now is number one. I don't pay attention to pop anymore. But but you'll click on it and it'll basically be like. Hey we're doing this impression battle And then the song will start and it'll be a rick role and it's a one take And so we we had like forty different characters that we could that we didn't know the order of that. You have to pull up and like Bryan Bryan Hall. My collaborator had along this love. That because I saw that with you Brian and you did the frozen to. Oh my gosh. It's going to be like that and that was just hysterical and I wondered. How are you guys so talented? All Those Impressions Folks. It is amazing. You gotta check out these videos. He is towns close wide on the mountain to live a kingdom. I'm the Queen. How saying like this world saw means a key in heaven knows I. It is so fun it is so fun. So we did this to Rick Ashley and we fell on our face. We didn't even finish it but it is so entertaining. It is so entertaining so I I have another video that we're actually filming a finishing filming later later today. Which is A dreamworks madly which is like you know like songs from Shrek. And I'm singing as Moses singing. Believe lots of fun anyway. So that's that's coming out. I have a bunch of collaborations that we filmed in late. January early February. That are coming out with the Byu vocal point Capella Group. They have this lovely. Men's collegiate group that we went and saying over at the gorge overlooking all these beautiful mountains and the and the river. I have I have a couple of silly Disney stuff that we've already shot to. It is amazing and folks. We're GONNA I'm going to have all these in the show notes because we've got your youtube channel plenty of ways for them to consume your awesome content pier. I think this is wonderful. I just want to commend you on this. I think it's just a great cause and I want to thank you so much for taking time out of your busy schedule join us. Thank you so much. 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Hour 1: Udonis Haslem - Mr. 305

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

31:49 min | 7 months ago

Hour 1: Udonis Haslem - Mr. 305

"Stugatz here for advance auto parts now more than ever. It's important to think ahead advance auto parts remains open to help you keep your car up running at its best order online and then pick up in the stores you can get in and out as quickly as possible car. Batteries are stock soared. Just seventy nine nine thousand nine. They'll test your battery and install your new one for free. No appointment needed to the code Dan. Twenty when you buy online and you'll save an extra twenty percent. Think AHEAD THEY CONVEYANCE. Only at advance auto parts. Dale Ever Talk Woodstock got show. Podcast is presented by capital on. This is banking reimagined. This is the Dan Le Batard show with this to spot. Cass STU gods. As the sports media world crawls on its knees falls to its knees with a grown no content to anywhere to be found every. Espn show you know interviewing the director of a documentary? We made like Manna from heaven. Pushing Away John Salley and bj Armstrong and Scott Burrell Rob Gronkowski somehow. And I don't know of anything says pandemic more than this apart of two essential businesses in Florida thing. Where is the champion Foot Pole wearing a champion Rob Gronkowski has given us something to talk about? We now know STU gods it. Can I believe we could say this without dispute? Rob Gronkowski was not tired of playing football. Rob Gronkowski was tired of playing football for the Patriots. Yes that is correct. Specifically Bill Belichick tired of playing football for that football coach. Bingo I mean that one is interesting. Tom Brady being a mercenary. Who now has Percy Harbin at thirty one announcing that he's coming back to the league and that he wants to play with Tom Brady as well. I want to just blow through because I thought we had retired our library of gronk stuff but we can now resurrected here. Post Easter true champion in football and Wrestling Rob Gronkowski returns to football. You know you know the story by now. The New England Patriots broke the sport because they trained a polar bear how to catch. Footballs in the game against the chiefs. They needed to win. Tom Brady would just throw it in the general vicinity of where Brock had been. Every one of the chiefs knew it was coming. It was still the play of the game and ends up winning them another super bowl. He has been a fountain of youth for Tom Brady. Tom Brady has not aged like other quarterbacks at least in part because he can throw to this guy but he is an emaciated polar bear who has lost a lot of weight however has plenty of free time right now to gain it back and and no ability whatsoever to be distracted by parties or anything else Rob Gronkowski can can gain a lot of weight very fast through training Very specifically over the next three months. There's never been a better time for us. To get in shape. Listen they think all of this is cute knob telling you bill. Belichick is sitting back and he is laughing area and you WANNA this. You've got it because you go wait this year with that crew. That's an unmitigated disaster. That goes eight. Names like winning a super bowl are- God's biased by all his jets hate. What a weird take from Davis Show. No no how. How is that a good take? That is your first thought on Rob Gronkowski is how is Bella? Check going to laugh at this. Because he's just traded rob Gronkowski Tampa Bay and they have clearly a lot more weapons on offense than the Patriots have. That's that's certainly one way to spin arguably the greatest tight end in. Nfl history had a year off. Who's still only thirty now. Fresh wanting to play for Tampa Bay. And not you you. Who made them that? Greatest tight end ever. Let's think about this for a second. Okay this whole thing that Brady grog and the you know. They can try than they thought up. We're going to go to Tampa and we're going to stick into Bala Jack Collazo off for just a second. Why are you eating on this? Nobody's saying on this. Like what what what are you doing? You're you want to be the one guy out there. Coming out against this is content. Manna from heaven. Like No. You're against them doing this now. This is great content. I'm just trying to take the content to a different place supply. It hasn't been taken to before. Okay that's true striving to expand this conversation at all I'm saying is on the surface. Okay all this looks on. All of this looks good. You know comes with it expectations and not just getting to the Super Bowl. Expectations gone winning the Super Bowl expectation. Who I'm sure GRONK and Brady will fall under the pressure of that because they haven't been there before with those kinds of expectations. What are you doing. Let me finish my point. The last time we saw Tom Brady. He was throwing pick-6 in a playoff. Game but Gillette Stadium. The last time we saw brock he was an average tight end who was getting beaten by Kenyans Raisin and listen to me still gods take inventory. I mean look come on Stu gods for years you've been warning us about never count out Brady and Gronk. And now after he gets grunk is when you're gonNA decide to count him out dean average. What a horrible. I know. Last time we saw Rob Gronkowski outside of being a twenty four seven champion for the. Wwe was him winning the Super Bowl for the Patriots and in the AFC Championship. Game catching a ball. Everyone on the planet including that defendant. Noodling Eric Wear is going. Barnes Gorey's careers to what are you talking about? Average tight end. The season he had in his final season was average. The playoff run was very very good at all. I'm saying is okay there. Eight nate is a disaster. Bella checks eight eight. He Win Day win a super bowl. I'd have a parade of the Patriots. Kgo eight nate. Let me analyze this for a second. And now we're GONNA have to empty out or resurrect gronk library in the next segment. Because I can't believe the number of different things that Stugatz doing in this game whack a mole that don't line up with anything he's ever thought or believed to publicly before now. Don't just keep your sausage fingers to yourself and let me get through this before you start throwing your more walk a mole at me and I can't keep up with the lies and the inconsistency so fact to to recap Stugatz because we're making fun that Fan House That Fan House Twitter Account Makes Fun of Colin Cowherd and points out that a month ago Colin cowherd said the packers a would be smart to draft a quarterback behind Aaron Rodgers. And then the video month later is him saying the packers would be stupid to draft a quarterback to be behind Aaron Rodgers. You have consistently four years told us to not count out this quarterback. You've been telling me for years every time. I say anything about this quarterback be careful. Be careful and so the day after twelve hours after the sports world gets shocked during a pandemic to report that still in his Prime Ron. Hausky the greatest tight end ever is coming back after. You said Brady's GonNa make the Super Bowl before gronk got there. You said Brady going to be in the Super Bowl this year. That's the day you choose to say. Today I'm going to count out Tom Brady. He's outside my division. I don't have to worry about the ramifications anymore. The play of two times a year. I mean he's the NFC problem that. I could get him out all I want if he beats these teams in the NFC south. What do I care? Don't care about any of them. I did all that for the jets. This is this is the worst segment you've ever done in a Lotta gray historically terrible now. I would be irate if I wasn't so grateful for a good old fashioned sports debate. In which one of people were incredibly wrong started? Eleven games at six hundred eighty two yards and we talk about the chiefs catch. He had the biggest catch the super bowl that he was talking about average weighted to question all of this with Brady until we got there. The reinforcements actually got. They're stunned us. And that's when you decided to quest Greis Aches Touting coaching Howard who stinks OJ. Howard is who you wouldn't stop yelling about outside the AFC that other you guys listening clearly to me okay. His FINAL SEASON. He was an average the larger point. I've tried to make six hundred. Eighty two yards gained started. They are still listen. They have super bowl expectations. Now with a guy was appoint football it over here. Let me hold quarterback. That's the expectation expectation of the Super Bowl. Was You when they signed Brady? Was You than anybody you think you said you. You threw a stick of sports. Is Dynamite laps and I love it. I'm sorry I called it Fan House again. It's actually fun. 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They're giving US content here with merely their former players but stugatz during the break was wandering around looking as he often does searching every dark crevice of the dark web for agreement and he came to me. And he said James The board OP agrees with me. And Chris. Cody agrees with me. And I just want to get out in front of this before you start throwing all your smoke bombs and everything else. It is a perfectly valid opinion to have that. The bucks are much ado about nothing that it's over for them that this is just names. Joining them and expectations might swallow them. Because the rest of those guys haven't been there. Everyone in the world is allowed that opinion. Except for you. Stu You are not who are simply not allowed to have that opinion because it runs contrary everything you think about every single day so anyone in the world can question that move what I am saying is you are forbidden. From having that opinion in an honest sports take world in a world where sports opinions have to have at least one percent shred of truth in them. Yeah you are. Forbidden from doing your magical. Mystical wizard dance of lies. When did you become a charge of opinions? I mean who could say what and who can have what I mean since. When did you become at Georgia that this is four? Four bidding part of this. Are you not understanding not allowed? It is for bidding man. This is often democracy. It is to democracy listen forbidden you cannot have that opinion. I telling you he is serious. This is the closest. I've been to Dan in six or seven weeks. He's sticking his face right into that Gabbara and I I mean I'm telling you I felt it all the way up here in Parkland three and a half counties away. It blew me back to the wall in my office whenever I start us because why because it's always in character earned because he knows that I'm just nonsense bluster. He normally doesn't get any kind of scared but he did back away. From the micro microphone in a way that suggested fear. Let me play some of this gronk sound so that we can reminisce about our good friend Bob Einstein. The late Bob Weinstein. He made us laugh very hard. One time simply describing Gronk. Listen to this with Gronkowski. He's had several human being like any likes slower wings. Sure anything is made of circuit. He's always fire coming out when he comes across the middle. Forget it forty nine or Redskins. Reds slobbering breathing sneezing and stuff. He knows his own name. Croc we're going to you. What are they just a little bit you? I want to now re open the Church of GRONK during a Stugatz. I understand that we cannot gather crowds but we thought it had shuttered. We have actual stained glass in our studios of Brian. Bosworth patron saint in the Church of Gronk. I'd want together to recite the Bronx prayer. Listened to this. Let's all recited together to ourselves. We all have it. Memorized are GRONK. Scores and seven's hallowed be thy brain kingdom dumb. I will mix rum on turf as it is in heaven. He does this day. Our daily meat spread and don't forgive us our trespasses as we don't forgive those who double cover against us lead us directly and repeatedly into temptation but deliver dat sexy body from evil or spikes in the end zone with great power. Bring you glory forever. Way Men way. Men Stu Gods Gronk is back in the NFL at the very least Tampa is interesting and you don't get many chances to say that. Espn radio is presented by Progressive Insurance. The last ads continues this Sunday at nine PM. Eastern on ESPN immediately after the show airs. Listen to the wrap up podcasts hosted by Jalen and Jacoby the after show presented by State Farm and at and T. guys will be joined by Director. Jason Air to talk about this week. Show and behind the scene stories of the making of the episodes. Subscribe to Jalen and Jacoby the after show on Apple PODCAST STORE. You LISTEN TO PODCAST. You Dot us has long. I'm going to join us from the heat and just a second here. Here's your sportscenter. Update the Patriots Traded Rob Gronkowski and a seventh round pick to the buccaneers for a fourth round. Pick Roger Goodell join. Get up this morning and discuss the possibility of the season being delayed we are working with our medical teams. We are working with medical teams. Cdc AND NIH and from State to state and we we as we are doing. What the draft. We didn't ask for any exemptions from the draft we are doing this with within regulations from state to state everybody's home everyone's operating under the same guidelines that the states have dictated or the federal government. And we're GONNA continue to be able to do that but our job is to be ready to play and we will be ready to play and finally jolly scholar a brewery. 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We've been covering this dude since high school here so I've got a number of different questions. I want to ask him about the heat but the first question I wanna ask him and thank you for being on with us is how does your Donnas has lem feel about Kendrick Perkins and Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce and Ray Jan Rondo. Still after all these years holding that grudge against Ray Allen they gotta let first of all what's going on man hope all is well I feel like they gotta let that go down. Man. I'm on. They gotta let it go man. I mean I don't understand what the big deal is. I mean we actually beat him Whitley. You know what I mean. And so the year before when they have very you beat him and then he came and we beat them. So I don't really understand what it's about You Know Radio Income. You know because we did. I think it was thinking that we're going on over there. That ray wasn't comfortable. It was the reason why they left. So it had nothing to do with There's not like oh he can't. We can't beat them. Join them type thing. I was in the attitude that we have raised autumn it competitor. I think it was going on. You know that ray wasn't comfortable with You know moving forward in decision to come to Miami so they gotta let that go man. I had nothing to do with losing nothing at all. Like IF THEY WANNA burn rate and I don't understand like taking like a man you know what I'm saying we've all had lost. We had to take him. You Know San Antonio beat us in the finals we gotta take Manley blaming broad clamps lane. Doing all that it's over with. They want and we move on so they need to let go and move on. It was just too big a part of that rented they had. Is anybody else that they need to give respect. He deserves move on. That's why the city of Miami loves you you. That's why everyone loves you. You D I've been maintaining for years that there should be a statue. That's the greatest shot the history of the NBA playoffs NBA finals. I maintain there should be a statue of Ray Allen that shot outside of the American Airlines arena degrade thousand. That's probably the greatest shot. I've always seen man I. I watched it I watched the play. It seemed like it was happening. Slow motion from the anger. That I had I saw a shot up being rebounded. You know I'm used to anticipate in the flight of the ball but once you let it go. I knew it was going here. I'm curious you DONNAS has them with us on. Espn radio if we look at the breadth of your career. Let me ask you just over your career. Few questions about people and places and things the guy most likely to pick up a check during your career was blank. That's a great question is likely to pick up a check. Mark Career Man Well I'll tell you what a lot of guys make. The most likely to pick up a check in my career would be. I would have to say a great question warns Luggage Gordon Drug now. Of course I've got to go the other way here as well. The least the least likely among the star players you've played within your career the guy it's a tie between Lebron and the way no no what might even close you gotta understand man these guys they pay for instance they were twelve or something support Laden. Come on man come on man like the more money they get the more free stuff they get like is complete opposite your means so the more they pay for a long time man. We get the boys to win to pay. You GotTa play the Credit Card Game. Are you saying right now on National Radio Don? This has been putting his veteran voice on. Lebron and Dwayne are cheap. Hey Man let's put it this way. They not they not struggling doing Kobe. Nineteen they straight trust wealthy. But I don't think you other cheap they don't have any cheap now. They do. Well they might guys ain't spending money tight tight all right. Can you tell us what you're thinking to yourself? Chain Fatty has told us. The story of you guys have won championships. Plural your training the next season and Hassan. Whiteside is in camp with you. And he's laying down on the floor during sprinting drills and chain batty says he came over. It was like look man. These people want championships. And they're still running. Do you remember that? Because I can't imagine you abiding something like that. Yeah I remember it like it was yesterday. Yeah I remember yeah I mean you know the thing about my shit you know saying it was different. You jumping into a coach of like mind and he And you had so many habits that you have to break over You know in a quick period of time. You know what I'm saying so you know what I'm saying it's on game was everything you have but it was just a tough match With the way we wanted to play hard work and with everything that was a part of our culture but you know he's a great asset to us while he was here but Yeah I remember that I remember that I remember grabbing him and I think the last one he had to run I ended up grabbing running with him just to make sure he got through and made his time Doing look out for each other like I know. I know that you are not a snitch. But can you tell us? Now you're Tian waiters story. Can we get a waiter story? That doesn't classify snitching but amused you as you saw it happening in his time with the Heat Dan. I listen here man just like you say you calling me for a long time. Now you know I just. I woke up. We landed and paramedics coming on a plane. That's all you're going to get even layer to the end don. I I've been dating forever. We've had some laughs about this that the heat retired jerseys wall. Nice they're like circus tents man. Those things feel too big. You're Jersey's going to be retired at some point and I feel like the jerseys that Riley is thrown up into the rafters. They're just too big. Have you noticed hanging out there? Like like flash for the country. But he's definitely he's I mean you know what this have been hanging out there man from where I came from like Dan say man. Huskies sports show. Y'All been covering me forever man It's a blessing to my way. Even if it's a baby jury it could be a onesie. You know what I'm saying. The hanging up in Iraq has on. Then I'm thinking God put it on the poll game on Lebatardshow. Should you as limbs name go up into the rafters on a Baby Jersey on a one show? You don't want to announce anything here about retiring or anything before you go right are you okay. Is Everything Okay at home? Nine first person material is going to be popular man not you so can't very communicating all right there at the same time. I will be checking in with my father. It's the hardest I've ever seen you laugh over twenty five years to him watching my father do rap videos with collaborating with the wrappers of famous songs and. Yeah I've never seen you. Don has laughed that way. I walked into a room. He my father was holding him. Up was physically holding you down. His has won because of how he was laughing. Ud thank you for being with US. Sir Thank you guys now please so biosphere hello. Thank you sir. If you missed any of our interviews on demand David Archer podcast brought to you by capital one. Why SETTLE FOR AVERAGE WITH CAPITAL? One you can open a savings account with a rate five times. The national average welcomed the banking reimagined capital one. What's in your Wallet Capital One a member? Fdic because we are so happy that we are allowed. Now to reopen the Church of Gronk we have actually sent Bristol. A handful of things to make us feel the religious spirit of our favourite meathead returning to football. We can now reconstruct the church around him. Let's do so with the first song from the him. No place on gather around America. Here we have for you as we reopen the church Gronk HYMNAL NUMBER. Two please run. It's beautiful I've got a tear in my feel. It's almost like Like hearing Pacelli sing outside of vacant. You Know Milan sing amazing grace. It's almost the same thing Gronk hymnal number three please to lower deeply moving and finally The religious experience is not complete without this hymnal. Ha- aw yeah so. It's Tom Brady has gone to Instagram Stugatz. And because he is now in his forties a wacky person who shares a pieces of his life with us. He has put up a video. And I don't know if it's a video that was recent or if it's a video that he's put up before but it's apropos. For the moment it. Is Tom Brady in a field blowing on some sort of Horn in the distance you see a bunch of birds fly out of the trees as he blows on the Horn and then the actual gronk romps in like a polar bear into where it is that Brady is and he is now summoned. Gronk so he just put that up on his instagram account. Yeah I'm guessing. This was taped earlier. Just because it looks like A More Autumn Massachusetts and Rob Gronkowski is eighty pounds heavier than we last saw. Although I wouldn't put it past wrong gained eighty pounds in one week. Because he's just that kind of freak. This seems older repurpose. But he's he's a pretty good social media following his older age. He's finding his voice and I think he's reveling in the fact that he can actually use a voice. Now Tom Brady. That's part of it. He's allowed to have a voice now. He's allowed to have allowed to post videos with Greg. I think that's part of what's behind what Tom Brady is doing. This feels even though at an advanced age. This feels very very fun to him. It's a feeling he hasn't had throughout his twenty years of playing football. I mean this seems obvious. It seems obvious that Brady and Gronkowski no longer wanted to play under the Patriot rules. They'll play football but Aaron's is a very different coach. He's not GonNa do it the same way. So they're going to actually be allowed to have Some personality Tom Brady has never shown us very much of that over the years. We've gotten precious. Little of what he is doing on instagram. Now put it on the poll Guillermo Lebatardshow. Did Tom Brady. No GRONK was coming back when he tried to trademark Tampa Bay Because I'm guessing he's had this in the works for a while right. Jay Glazer was the first to report it yesterday. But this doesn't just come to be in a couple of minutes. This is something that Brady is said to have gone to the bucks with saying look. I think I could talk him out of retirement. I think Brady's but thinking about this for a while. You remember the Howard Stern interview. He said he knew before the start of last season he knew it was final season in New England. Now I don't know if he knew he was going to Tampa Bay. There's rumors about San Francisco. I think Miami was maybe in the mix but I think this is something him gras but and thinking about for a couple of years now Stugotz Mike was complaining. Tiger king feels like it was one million years ago does Senate because I know that these days are all sort of blending together. I looked up and it was you know it was April twenty second. Whoa we've been at this for so long but in many in many ways the timeline is crawling because we don't have these strategies but also tiger king for me was five shows ago. It's like captured the nation. It was the biggest thing in shows. He was the most famous person in America and we have so moved on right now I know other people are so catching it. But we're all trying to entertain ourselves and find the next binge worthy show. It feels so far long ago and it really shouldn't give them a put it on the poll please. At lebatardshow does tiger king feel like a million years ago Stugotz they rushed that episode eight into net flex good Lord. It's bad one a money. Grab you people should be ashamed of yourselves steak man.

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72: SPECIAL: Fixing the Plastic Problem

National Trust Podcast

35:29 min | 10 months ago

72: SPECIAL: Fixing the Plastic Problem

"Hello you're listening to the National Trust. August twenty twenty marks are one hundred twenty fifth anniversary and a special year of activity. This year where romping APO- efforts to protect our natural world one major threat default time is plastics. So this week wish airing an episode of couldn't didn't file live twenty nineteen a podcast series. We launched this January. This podcast brings you the best interviews and debates that took place in the the National Trust Theater. At last year's live event over four days the National Trust hosted talks covering topics from food and farming to the benefits of nature it to our well-being in this episode country file presented. Tom Heap and a panel of experts. Discuss how we could fix the plastic problem. If if you enjoy this you can find the rest of the series on all podcast directories all National Trust Dot Org dot. UK forward slash podcasts. This is country Fi. Live twenty nine hundred nine the podcast. That lets you relive some of the best moments from the talks and presentations. That happened in the national. Trust theater at this year's BBC country file live event Ab- Lenin Palace in this series. You'll hear from the likes of Ray. mears is on the best time to get involved with nature from J Gill on his transition from fame to farming and from Timothy Bentinck Aka eight David Archer. WHO gives us a peek behind the scenes of the arches in this episode? We join controversial presented. Tom Heap in conversation. Sation with Richard Walker managing director of Iceland Roz Savage and environmental advocate multi Dorey author and founder of two minute beach. Clean and Adam Reed External Affairs director APP suicides global experts in water and waste. They discuss the problem of plastics and some of the solutions. That may help us deal with walk. Walk has really changed. How do you think we'd come in the last eighteen months so just a couple of minutes? Please thanks I think we've come a long way but many of you might argue argue that you can't see the change and I think that's because systemic change system change takes time. We've got public awareness higher than ever before we've got big businesses like huge commitments to change. We've got national programs. Plastic pacts looking at implementing massive sky or change in the supply employ chain to raise recycled contain and to simplify packaging. So that your lives are easier in terms of what to do with it. And how to deal with it we've impact labeling thing trying to make your life easier and then you've got ourselves investing in infrastructure to separate segregate. I'm recycle that material butts older. That sykes time I an effort to get it right. Moving too fast puts the whole system at risk if the supply Chinese out of sync so we spend a Lotta time talking. We'd be business about their plan. Changes and we spend time talking to government about what's coming in terms of producer responsibility deposit return scheme so huge consultations tycoons over the last twelve months massive response from the public and Industry Soins of very positive. And I'm very optimistic. That we're on the right path off but it will take a year or two to get older that embedded change to work and saw can cut in when you say positive. Does that mean you think we will see and you want to see a deposit returns came on plastic. Do I want to say I. I want to see less plastic and I want to see more recycling if D. R. S. Deposit Return Turn is the right answer then we would support it but we also feel that extended producer responsibility with big brands taking ultimate responsibility for the entire yeah. Life cycle of their products and packaging is the first step so I prefer producer responsibility consumers making the right choices businesses making king at work and asks helping secure that system if we then have leakage or we were still suffering litter from plastics than. Drs's absolutely the next a lot to dig into that a little bit more but or bringing other people to the show. I'm really the same question. What has changed? What if you think it's inadequate what now needs needs to change? Public perception has completely changed just in the last year alone. Even in the Collins Dictionary words single use became a new word God for the year because people understand not only just what the impacts of single use but the role that it has on our environment and society. I always say there are so many different things that need to change. I sometimes think that politics waits for people to change and they say what people say what comes first people politics six business media or even finance and investment to me. It's all those things and I think that when we're looking at the public perception of plastic I have friends I. I went to school with that used to laugh at me because I bring my reusable bottle with me consistently and I just just this year. There's something like that plastics issue. It's scary isn't it. Like blood the finally people are starting to catch up and this is a conversation that we have been having a lot and I think that what does need to change is our understanding of where plastics are. It's insidious in our society. I actually went plastic free for a week because I thought it would mean that I was able to change slots those institutionalized habits. You've got rid of your your computer. The plastic rounded screened in so much of our stuff actually living plastic arctic freeze virtually impossible shows how insidious is that for these chairs. Here is a bad thing. When I say it's insidious so I I discovered? I'm a massive T fan. I can't begin to tell you. How many cups of tea I had could you imagine my shock when I discovered this plastic in teabags and When you when they come I had noticed that you do still get that that they don't come properly and the idea that as we're drinking cup city that there was plastic in that I think a lot of people I didn't realize until it was brought public attention and we've seen T. companies trying to change that but the idea that such small things that we do has plastic at the heart of it but just to be clear? Is Your feeling that it's really we do need to focus on single use plastic. That's the issue or you against plastic in all its forms. I think that plastic and all of obviously plastics even single use plastics to us have their function in some places place. It's like the jess for example. You can't talk about such a vital role in some aspects but isn't just single I use. It's plastics are used that still end up in our oceans still end up and our food cycles. What the the reason? The system is broken is because plastics are the cheapest and easiest options on too many occasions and even when we're seeing the fossil fuel industry subsidized by government that also is through the oil industry that we reduce our plastics. And it means that there's subsidy going towards something that's detrimental to the environment and what we need and I think that what we all want in this room is for the greenest option to be the cheapest and easiest option not the option. That's environmentally destructive. Ed Wood that would happen. Yeah rose what what do you think what what have you noticed actual actual changes in the last two years. And what would you like to change from the British perspective. We can be really proud of ourselves. That inspired by David Attenborough in his team. It's been absolutely brilliant. See everybody from the Queen to the houses of parliament to the supermarkets to the pubs. Really getting on board with they do not a single used plastics unfortunately on the global level. Plastic production is still going up. It went up three percent last year and a slightly sad statistic that I will then put a more positive spin on. Is that North America and Europe between between US only account for five percent of mismanage plastic. So we're fortunate in that we have good rubbish collection action systems so that actually. It's mostly not our plastic that is escaping into the environment but so clearly the countries like China other Asian countries in India needs to an awful lot to get their act together. But there's no room for complacency for us this either because actually in my book plastic that goes into landfill is still not sustainable in the sense that it is going to be to the detriment. A future generations that they've got these non-biodegradable Milton he still less so the still. There's a lot to celebrate but there's also also still a long way to go. Plus you walk strap but it's not a good use of plastic I've this watch has crossed several oceans and banned material. It is so I'm afraid I had a lot of plastic on my because it's brilliantly useful waterproof stuff off too much of a good thing because in many respects it is a good thing I think. Any of us a demonizing plastic. We're just saying that it must not be allowed to escape from what is hopefully increasingly becoming a circular economy escaping from there into the natural who'll wells Richard feeling this every day in the retail business. The pressures but I wonder if you could cut through that and so are there some things would you think just you know what he's actually changing for you and you'll seeing around you a what. He's not yeah so we made our commitment was who was the first in the world In January last year and most people were skeptical and didn't weren't quite sure how we were going to get there and to be honest. I was one of them because I would much rather set a big bold ambition. Make sure that all of our twenty five thousand staff motivated and driven in that direction rather than wait around and wait for someone else to impose. Is it in terms of what's going on. I am fully optimistic. We are going to get there. And but in terms of what's going on quite a lot in store we've removed as of last December one and a half thousand tons from things like eggplants and some of our bags products some of our ready meal trays. And since then we've removed more but if you against against shops it's still a wall of plastic and it frustrates the hell out of me. So obviously I want to move quicker. We will if we can but of course the challenges are so great. Right is a mountain that we have to climb and we're right at the forefront in terms of innovating with new technologies new are in D.. And all of this has to be a uh net neutral cost to our customers because we're going to pass on a penny to them. I didn't see why should also it would be commercial suicide in the UK grocery this remark it to do so and a question of the risk of not insulting the audience here but but a question about the market. Generally we hear era a lot. About how the general public is turning. Its back on plastic. Do you think that's actually true. AB- apart from the sort of Five or ten percent who really environmentally switched on most living in Bristol Oxford Cambridge and as a mass I mean. I'm just wondering if the reality check not just necessarily in your supermarket and the others. The guys are saying. Actually people don't care that much what do you think. We're only going to change the world if we make the scalable and we make scalable bull by democratizing environmentalism environmentalism moment. Very middle class. Thing here we are in the National Trust. And you know it's easy for as you said five percent of society to virtual signal to each other. We saw five million customers a week and we serve all of the under deprived communities in the UK. Do you think really give if monkeys they do of course they do. They have a different hierarchy of needs. You know they might have twenty five pounds a week to spend on food. That's it and their parents sir. Engaged in nature as much as anyone else but there this is where climate and environmental justice is wrapped up in social justice as well and those things are intellect our customers really really care about it but they can't afford to pay a penny more to do so and I'm in the same question if you lie but also you seeing any change. I mean you do walk on the you the beaches and see what's actually washing up. You're not just as a I don't see any change out there with yes I think so I mean so that there are two sides to it. I think there's a response response to it. which is the? It's getting very easy for corporate to call us up and say they want to go on a beach clean right which is great but but they still have to change in the back room and that's one of the responses. So there's a bonding I think we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA take a beach king. Can you come and help us. It's like yeah okay. I'll tell you if you cut your single use plastic and that's a very difficult question for him to answer you know but but the other thing is this lots of facebook shares and I guess if I you know I get sent stuff about plastic every day and I think people then think it's off their conscience and actually I think there's a massive response to it but actually the reality might not be happening. I mean it's easier for me to get books written about plastic now coming to you right now on it too but then then the reality is I got a picture of this book. Could everybody read what it says on the front. No more plastic it gets wrapped in plastic by resellers so sent he wrote and blessed with that so so you know so there. Is this this this part of it. which is I think we are kind of sometimes sleepwalking into into oblivion with this that there is so ingrained in our society that you know I was in a bookshop? I'm talking to somebody about why they were wrapping up books in plastic and they say well it's because people people want their stuff fresh and new and they don't want it to be thumbed on the shelves and also I mean the other thing that's the knee jerk. Reaction is the idea of new plastics and new waste streams. Yeah so so we we go. We hate those coffee cups because plastic and yeah. Hey guys you can have a guilt free coffee by having a compatible. WHOA COFFEE Cup? What they don't tell you? Is that that coffee. Cup can only be compounded by experts under certain conditions. So you go away feeling like you've if you're being very virtuous the simple answer is to have a cup a real cup that you refill and actually there's the lack of information I think is is really telling so the National Trust. Let's hold them up because they changed their magazine rap to a possible. We'll wrap home combustible rap and they put instructions on it how to deal with it now. I got in degradable plastic bag the other day with no instructions directions degradable oxo degradable photo degradable biodegradable. And we don't know I want to put up with that. You just wanted to quickly on something Richard. Yeah I'm in His Testament Testament to the fact that we're not there yet because more plastic bottles were so this year in two thousand and nineteen then last year keeping enough just something I was going to put about. I asked for some figures. Just I know someone in Cambridge Area Waste Management and I asked him for the tonnage figures that are coming through their place and Cambridge's bridges. I said is the kind of place and lots of environmentals which don't people every year every month year on year between twenty eight and twenty twenty seventeen eighteen and twenty one thousand nine hundred ninety three the last year it had gone up slightly over the going up on their always talk. But that's why it's so incumbent on retailers on business on industry to come up with solutions nations alternatives that are as cheap as convenient and have the same functionality as well and failing every day but we also have some successes. The Tunnel Edgy. We're utilizing I just wanted to this issue of bio degradate ability and composting. Because it's a very slippery term this isn't it. Can you just just help the audience out here with what is good. And what is not when it comes to words like compostable and biodegradable combustible on on packaging. Means you can't composed in your compost Abraham it needs to go into industrial composter. Which means you need a collection system? That's designed to take it to an investment compost. And how would you know if you have that in your area by Oscar account so and most of you want a boy degradable on the other hand has to go to an anaerobic digestion. And again you have to authority worries more Food Than Organic Weiss whereas my garden wise guy now most of the body writable an Oak sidebar degradable and combustible the packaging in this country is not ending up in any form of recycling facility. Because it can't be treated in a resort community it may end up in a landfill. Suicide is being burned for energy recovery currently because we haven't got the systems in place to keep it separate so it does go with your food and garden waste. I just sites that are deemed suitable for that material. So in your view. Is it better to have a recyclable regular plastic bottle cool then something that says abide degradable compostable would you. Can you handle too but probably recyclable. Plastic better currently we would much prefer quality. Recycling of simple plastic polymer that we can put through all facilities and put back to market. And so I just a Dj that when you talk about simple plastic milk doc milk most of water bottle happy dies by are easy to recycle if we can capture them. The problem is when you litter them. Maybe not you guys and goes but when they get littered. They don't get captured in a recycling system. That's the problem. But they're easy to handle and we'd much rather have them. The no complicated could could be recycled. Could be composted. Could be digested if we get. It writes the future may be oxo biodegradable or combustible. But we're a long way from there now. Deposits Straight on. Should they be on on the plastic plastic deposit schemes in the US of been very successful. There's I think if you put something like a five cent deposit on the bottle then. The return rates are twenty seven. If it's a quarter on a bottle then in a return rates go up to nine hundred and ninety five percent so that seems like a really good place to start also pick you up on what was being said about limiting the number of different kinds kinds of plastics. Willing to be correct on this by think in Japan have nine core kinds of plastics. That and that's it. You can't have other plastics. So you know you've got flexible when you've got a rigid one you've got for nine different purposes but it makes it an awful lot easier. It's does it say one thing and you have been labelled one to nine so but I'm sure someone else on the panel appropriate knows more about this idea. She says looking at him and one for nine they have a simpler system. Certainly Okay Amelia. We have a snap election around the corner and there's a little change in the electorate and you get made environment secretary. What would you be? Now what would you be putting in place by way of policy to encourage recycling. I think that's really important that we think of this system change and not just about recycling itself because is when we do recycle was still producing these materials. There's still an energy cost to that. If there hadn't been plastic in the first place we would be thinking very differently about how we built our society. I think it's interesting that there are some local councils. Considering things like a turn scheme those of us that have been music festivals that reducing their plastic. You'll know that you small. Oh deposit on a cup you buy beer or whatever your wine you get once you've finished it you return the cup either for a new glass of beer or for your money money back and there are some people who have been thinking about trialing how we do this in the local area. So you're not just creating ways not just creating recycling because the last figure I heard it was it was thinking like nine percents of plastics recycled and although nine in which edged case we need to have a huge. We're putting the pressure on people to know their recycling and to do it in places like Newport in south Wales swear. They've pushed some the highest recycling rates. They realized that they've hit a point where they simply don't know how they can continue to engage. People into recycling have moved to the point where they're now talking not talking about fines because for people who don't recycle because they can't see how they can make it easier how they can encourage more. How are they can put more education out there because there's a limit when we keep producing this as a limits what we can achieve by recycling alone and so I think I personally absolutely? I think that there should be a ban on all non-essential single use plastics. Because I think that we I don't I'm there are there are countries that are taking single use plastics. Far More seriously than we are and I think that we can. We're already seeing watering tens. We're seeing other ways of actually containing are prodigies. Oh Jeez we're seeing the effects that they didn't actually but Johnson and Johnson are trying to step up to the mark on this the week after and the Blue Planet and talking about how actually lots there could be project produced by with using with things like the cotton wool buds and things. Like not when we there's a really interesting book called zero notes and the concept of that is that if we say to people reduce your energy consumption by fifty percents reduce your plastic used by fifty percent then people will just pick the low hanging fruit and say just take the easy options whereas if you challenge people two zero you have the fundamental system change that means that businesses and the environment can change. So I'm not saying overnight a ban on single use but making sure that this is all an investment. Make sure we get there. There's really bourdon analysis discussion about plastic but there are lots of people and environmental world are concerned that the sort of moral panic about plastic mastic is marking the possibly the more important problem of climate change. And I take this bottle as an example so I was given even this to die as lovely. It's a IT'S A. It's an aluminium drinks bottle. Aluminium is one of the most energy intensive things things to produce and because of the anti plastic fervor people are giving these out kind of virtue signaling things at just before you come in rich do you. I think that is a danger that our obsession with plastic is damaging the fight against climate change. Because this stuff is also really energy intensive to make Mike and really heavy to transport a well made and recycled plastic bottle would be more climate-friendly than that is interesting because when you look at the rise in plastic also falls quite in line with the rise in consumerism as well and there's definitely a role in consumerism of I mean essentially a one the stuff I've worked on his own clothing and the idea that we produce so many close the average lifetime of an item of clothing that I mean this contains pilot. This contains plastic thanks. Be It'll be releasing micro-plastics. Every time I put it into the world it is it is very important but do you think there is the plastics in the right place. We can I think we need to use the more sensibly speaking to an organic farmer this week about his plastic usage and he's plastic out of his his his his workings and he sends out now on the Internet and so since meet out into online and he said he looks backwards to look forward to a better future so actually the simple solution to to the problem of bottled water and the way is to get advertisers and actually if we start yes virtue signal myself with the bottle Oh look yeah so we've all got the but the fact is that if it's the it's this question of end of life and complete life cycle and we've he fairly early which still has made us doubt and we kind of knew it that some of the recycling streams aren't going the way we want them to and and actually if you don't know what's going to happen to to avoid the plastics pushback his great if only because is completely galvanized a whole generation of people and there is a Zeitgeist that that is reassessing row with the environments. Of course there are so many at the time of this climate crisis there are so many environmental ills there are many problems from deforestation through to climate change and I think ultimately humanity is very binary. It's not about no plastic or all plastic. We just need to reassess our relationship with this material and look at more sensibly and I say that as the retailer who is getting out of plastic. But we're doing that as a protest to show that it is possible it can be done. An alternative materials are available yes. Aluminium is by far the most polluting. If it's virgin aluminium if it's recycled is the best and yes glasses heavier to transport but people forget that plastic comes from a finite fossilized carbon. That's it's been fractured and is created from petrochemical. There's nothing worse for the environment than that fact. So you've got to look at the full life cycle of all of these materials roles. You mentioned earlier that unlawful or the source of plastic and our oceans is China Southeast Asia. Places like that where we send a lot of plastic to be recycled. Is that something that you know. We won't do you think about the fact that we are sending recycling these other countries. Well I think picks up on what you were saying earlier about clearly when we ship containers full of plastic to China for recycling than the carbon footprint of that is enormous and I. I'm sure many new audience have heard of the three hours of refuse reuse. Recycle in descending reading order prevert refusal to talk not reduce most people will reduce refuse as in. Don't have it in the first place. Yes say say no to the Goodie bag of things that you don't need just we live in an economy that's always trying to get us to embrace more more stuff more consumption and and it's not particularly make any happier in our lives and so there is definitely less is more and that's really the philosophy that we need to embrace lady over there. Please spent a holiday in Scotland and the arable farms up there. Cover their fields plastic relive next to a farm where they wrap the bells of silage empathic. Not Once but many times I think they are possibly the greatest criminal when it comes to one. I use plastic. That never gets used most. Is your view. Well we gotTA stop. We did a controversial about foam plastic Out a year ago can't quite remember and the place that was recycling. It in one place is taking it in and recycling and the UK. Although I think it may have gone overseas. He's one of the issues. Is these recyclable. I'm going to get you to come in on. This out of it is recyclable. One of the problems is it's dirty and the cleaning of it makes it then expensive to recycle recycled. But you're absolutely right is recyclable. But the way we would receive it makes it so closely to they handle that it far outweighs the value Ali with the material in the first place which is why we come back to consumption and consumer choice if the choice was not because it's the right material then paid a premium for the treatment of that material in its entire life cycle. Not just for the time that you have as a as a farmer. That's where the systemic change is needed in the UK isn't that a classic is deposit deposit scheme could work in effect. The farmers pay a little bit of it has to be taken back absolutely and then you have an HR system built around that was designed minds to handle that type of material. I have no problem with that whatsoever. So I was speaking to There's a study at Coventry University which is going on at the moment and they're they're studying being the plastic mulch versus biodegradable mulches versus. We did organic and no weeding. And actually and they don't have to be clear that multi-race oil salt weeds grow so the plastic that lines the fields is goes on top obviously and stop the weeds growing and it provides a mini greenhouse in enables was watering to be more more efficient. So actually I was looking at it from the point of view of okay. Well if you're choosing organic a lot of organic farmers used plastic mulch because because actually it's better for growth so this study is actually looking at. Can we replace it with biodegradable stuff. That doesn't have to be cleaned. Doesn't have to go to recycling. And then can can literally be ploughed back into the land and what she told me which was quite interesting. Was that actually the yield and the the the insect problems that they had on because it was where they had weeded and they had most bio-diversity they had the problems with pesticides with pests. Didn't have to use pesticides besides weren't using them so I know that they are looking into this. And it's kind of if you go back to old fashioned ways make rather than silage if you can and so route. I think we just have to do that thing of going. Well let's just try and do without how can we. Is there an alternative. Yeah thank you very much. Yes yes Ben Webster from the times we had the government celebrating today a ninety percent reduction in plastic bags. But what they actually didn't say was that that was search five single use thin bags and there's actually an enormous increase in so-called bags for life which cost nine P. Typically and there's now a billion of those so they actually contain four times as much plastic and people treating them as single use but it encountered the government's figures so it's completely silent went on them while patting itself on the back over its five p charge and its success and we'll have the environment secretary few minutes in this very room. Maybe talking about anyway. Is it time to actually get rid of plastic bags altogether or actually charge quite a bit for them so that you don't keep buying them and chucking them away. It's actually interested in a People who have lived in a plastic age because I do think I'm thirty four and I remember when toilet paper. Potatoes came and paper bags and a changing to Spencer soap and it seemed like a big thing and I think it's interesting. How over time? We've become so used something as a standard and the norm when actually only a few of it was quite recently that it wasn't and I do think that this plastic bag issue we're not gonNA save the world. I hate it if I'm breaking it to anyone but we're not going to save the world with a paper paper Straw. Were not going to save the world. Just three plastic bags and this is why it needs such a fundamental shift in how we think about plastics and their role in our society and again the plastic facts was something that has been introduced. Where where it's now an issue convenience rather than issue of how much it costs questions? I should say the bags for life. The thick bags should they be almost prohibitively expensive or not on sale in supermarkets view. I think that there should be. They should be on sale in the form that they're in at the moment don't want to dominate. Sorry but we we're the first retailer. We started this two weeks ago. A completely plastic bag free shop in Hackney go take a look and actually the results have been amazing. It's one of the few trials we've done. That actually works. Plastic bag usage has not changed. And we've switched to all of its. It's a paper where we've offered a paper alternative and kept the plastics that has not worked so it is possible I think to transition I want to roll it out. Doesn't this also show rigid. Did you know for all we public opinion. I mean whilst the gentleman's got issues with how collateral damage of the plastic bag tax it was it shows regulation nation is remarkably effective putting a financial margin the most we could afford five p but the plastic basket through the floor percents very effective so noisy see percent reduction plastic bags into the five p charge came in. That's great for the Environment Charity and for our prophets because we're spending ten billion quit era in plastic bags give away for free however then is correct. We talked about this before they bags for life that they have replaced which I forgot to net off their announcement this morning. Actually three times. James is heavy and therefore we are evidence of the fact that all we've done is increased plastics circulation by getting rid of five P. carrier backs unintended into consequence. Thank you very much. I'm afraid we're GONNA have to bring it to an end but to Richard Walker Martin. Adam Reed rose savage and immediately. Mac thank you very very much. Do you think the audience. I'm please hands together to thank the Powell. Thanks for listening to this extract from the many talks debates. That happened in the national. Trust theater at BBC Country File Live Twenty nineteen to learn more about this Sunda audio programs from the National Trust go to national trust dot org dot UK slash podcasts and to purchase your ticket Foale BBC Company Fire Live. Twenty Twenty Goto countrified live dot com. This is a national trust. 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129 - The Hunter Biden Senate Report

Republic Keeper - with Brian O'Kelly

47:48 min | 2 months ago

129 - The Hunter Biden Senate Report

"Welcome to the Republic here podcast. My name is Brad. It's Gina will be your host for today's adventure broadcasting from the forest and cottage Lake Washington. Just outside of Seattle on my russian-made MK 219 microphone off. This is broadcast. Number one point nine upon parlor Twitter Facebook. You know, whatever. Your poison is Brian your bro, and at the Republic. Com website for the social media connections and more and we will treat today like every other day and begin the broadcast by thanking God for good health and the ability to be your sharing with you and me. Thank you for joining this morning. Thanks for your time and attention and hopefully things are working to stream is going out people can hear me and I guess we'll find out with each of these jobs. iterations as we go so You know, I've been on this thing talking a little bit the last few days about why a Christian person can't or maybe shouldn't consider voting for The Democratic caucus it and of course, that's probably not been popular and that's cool. I'm good with that. But you know, here we are now and there's going to be one more song episode of that and that'll probably be Monday and we are going to talk about the pro-life issue and how it impacts a whole bunch of other issues and why am I being a pro-life person is not a single-issue position and we'll talk about that on Monday and some of the arguments also against voting Republican over that issue and explore some of those and there are some people who who make some arguments David French among them along those lines. So but today we're going to shift gears a little bit because I Had covered quite in-depth last like two months ago the Biden Ukraine stuff and I've laid off a little bit off because it just hasn't been in the news with all of the other stuff that's been going on but it's back in the news with the release of the Senate report yesterday, one of the Senate reports yesterday. And you know, I played yesterday on yesterday's broadcast at the end of the broadcast a reporter asked Joe Biden about this and Jo as we've learned now with Joe has a temper and he you know expressed that repeatedly we've seen him with the dog face pony soldier thing and and telling the auto worker, you know, you're full of it. I'm offering to fight people over and over Joe's always the guy who's going to you know, he does ball up his fists, you know, he kind of does that you know, hey, do you want to go a few rounds kind of thing and dead? Yesterday, I guess maybe day before somebody asked him about this Senate report and about his son and Joe doesn't take a lot of questions and he definitely doesn't take a lot of questions off that are shouted at him from reporters to begin with but this one came up and here was Jose response. Sons job in Ukraine how is that not a conflict of interest there's not a conflict of interest there's been no indication of any conflict of interest from Ukraine or anywhere else. I'm not going to I'm not going to respond to that page. Let's focus on the problem focus on this made focus on this man focus on this man now, I want to a little aside here and I played off last week some stuff about the color revolutions, right and about this idea of had a Cory Aquino there from the Philippines saying I can offer nothing but hope and one of the wrong kind of striking features of the color revolutions is that they focus on the person they focus on she was focused on battling are not Maryland area go Marcos Ferdinand Marcos there and they're always focused on a personality and it's very interesting that shows, you know, making that very same argument now the impeachment if we recall was about the idea that the wage President had been involved in a quid pro quo was the concern right that the president had made a phone call to Vladimir zelinski the president of Ukraine and had asked him to do something untoward and that is to investigate the bidens. Okay, well fair enough and if it was untoward, I guess that would be a problem. But if the bidens were off, maybe it wouldn't be such a problem. So Dick Morris and if I don't remember who Dick Morris is Dick Morris is he was a an advisor to the clintons. He was a strategist in the White House who helped them put them all together their dick Morris weighed in on what he thought the impeachment was sending committee report just released makes clear that the impeachment proceedings the whole hoax was basically designed as a cover for Hunter vitamins thievery Wow, so the entire impeachment hoax was designed as a cover for a hundred bucks and savory. So in other words Trump started asking questions over in Ukraine that Trump wasn't supposed to ask no one is supposed to ask us Trump wasn't supposed to win and to make sure that that investigation didn't move forward. They created the impeachment thing and made the ukrainians in a position where they were like hands off on us politics. We know anything to do with this stuff. We're just going to stay away from it and turns out not to have been the best decision on the part of the Democrats. It looks like the impeachment obviously didn't work. And so now we have Senate investigations and a whole bunch of people have weighed in on this and so these aren't any particular order here is Doug Collins now Senator Johnson who is running the committee and we're going to hear from Senator Johnson a little later in the show, but Senator are dead. Senator Congressman Collins ended up on Fox Business and was responding to Senator Johnson saying that because of this whole thing Biden's unfit for office wage. Here's Doug Collins. We never hear Senator. Ron Johnson talk like this his chair of Homeland Security in the Senate. He said that the basically what he's finding and seeing will show that Joe Biden is unfit to be president. What are you hearing? That would have Senator Johnson say a big bombshell like that. I think the same thing that we've been hearing list for the last year-and-a-half when we started seeing what I mean, if you watch the videos of the last president self as he actually, you know, we had this all this controversy of quid pro quo. We actually know that the Joe actually did that he actually demanded stuff for this prosecutors firing. He actually said if you don't get it, you're not get the money we again, we've went through this a lot of this and so I'm glad the senator using subpoena power and using everything else. He has at his disposal. The majority in the Senate is now coming forward. We're glad to get this out and report. It is something wrong. All over to you and something long that many of us have seen from day one as it began to come out and I do believe that Joe Biden is unfit to be president. I believe that Joe Biden has many reasons to be unfit for president. But this right here is something that corruption comes out of this. I believe this report is going to show in the bombshell. The center Johnson is talking about is the simple fact that America is seeing that not only is he not fit to be president. He doesn't need to be close to being considered to be president. Man, that's quite a statement isn't he's even close to be considered be president. So, of course, that's Doug Collins opinion and you know, it's an opinion based on what this Senate report says and I think Doug Collins was a prosecutor wage. I'm not mistaken and I might be but he's he's certainly an attorney. He was one of the house managers on the house manager, but he was part of the defense there on the impeachment off. So Jim Jordan has weighed in on the idea that there might be a different set of rules for Hunter Biden. Then there might be for you and I am I think what gets voters attention is is what we've seen from agencies in our government over the last several years. It started ten years ago when the IRS targeting conservatives then we saw the FBI Target President Trump's campaign spy on his campaign. We've seen what the Democrats have done the whole Mueller investigation three years all the all the lawyers all the money everything. They did their to find nothing the fake impeachment hopes hopes that they did last year. So I think all dead It gets voters attention and they're fed up with it. What what has happened to this President? So yeah, they just want the truth. They want the answers and they want to justice department. That is that treats everyone the same not this double standard Birds one set of rules for the politically connected but a different set of rules for you and I and the folks that I get the privilege of well, and now we know the answer to what happens when the streaming software crashes, I think. Wow, that's the first time that's happened. So welcome back. I don't know if we're we're at in the middle of that. Wow. That's the first time that's happened. And I kind of hope it never happens again. It was a little scary and I don't know if the stream is back up and running. I looked like it might be I I can't tell you. All right, we're into Uncharted Territory here. And yeah, that's new. So the the software that I'm using. I'm I guess maybe I'm wrong to ask too much of it because okay. You ready at dinner? Get up late. I got up early. But I didn't make good use of my time and I'm trying to do some of the you know, show prep and editing. Well, the clips are playing and probably am asking too much of the computer. So sorry about that guys. It'll be what it'll be. So I think I was in the middle of this is Stephen Morgan. You can't get off very I'm I'm back. I think I was in the middle of a Jim Jordan clip-in thing when sidewalk and let's see if I can get that clip back up and he could not crashed. All right. Well, you know, it is a mature. Here we go. I think what gets voters attention is what we've seen from agencies in our government over the last several years. It started ten years ago when the IRS targeting conservatives then we saw the FBI Target President Trump's campaign and spy on his campaign. We've seen what the dog Perhaps have done the whole Mueller investigation three years all the all the lawyers all the money everything. They did their to find nothing the fake impeachment hopes hopes that they did last year. So I think all that gets voters attentions and they're fed up with it. What what has happened to this President? So yeah, they just want the truth. They want the answers and they want to justice department. That is that treats everyone the same not this double standard where there's one set of rules for the politically connected but a different set of rules for you and I and the folks that I get the privilege of representing. That's what gets their attention. Yeah, I agree with that. I think that's exactly right. The people don't want to have a different set of rules. Most part of I think what was so frustrating about the the Hillary investigation was that there was the sense that if you and I had destroyed evidence, you know free of our emails were subpoenaed and there were sixty four thousand emails and we turned over 34,000 over 30,000 missing and they said where are they? And we said well, we we destroyed them they said well they were under subpoena. Well, yeah, I know but they weren't relevant. We decided that they were relevant so we didn't turn him over. There's that work. I mean apparently worked for Hillary. Would it work for you or high? Cuz I don't think it would I think you were I woke up in trouble if we had done that and where as Hillary got away with it. And so I think it's a very different thing when we have a double standard. I think that's what causes us to lose confidence. I think part of the whole idea what this color Revolution thing and the associated is that they want a loss of confidence in the system. It's part of what they intend is a loss of faith in institutions, right? Because what they ultimately want is for people to question elections for people to question, please for people to question fairness and the systemic racism thing is part of that lie if if anything's broken if the system is bad, then we have to blow the system up, right? So here is the first of several clips from Senator Johnson the chair of the committee. Again, we never sought to Target or go after the bindings. They put themselves in the middle of this with the hunters glaring and obvious conflict of interest during the border brucemont. So this happens just a couple of months after Ukraine had their Revolution dignity which really all about reading Ukraine of corruption. And here we set up this glaring conflict of interest or a hundred items paid 4.2 million dollars, he and his his business partner his businesses 4.2 million dollars in her about 30 months, but that that character is about $140,000 a month almost 1.7 million dollars per year. It's pretty good Gig if you've got the right the right last name and let's face it. This was all about with chesty the owner Bree Smith trying to gain influence so that the charges or investigations guessed him in Ukraine would be dropped but one thing so it was like shifting is the guy who is the main principle behind bereavement and yep. Also, one of the principles be hid behind private bank and he was a corrupt kurupt kurupt guy. So corrupt that the bank of England froze his assets right about the time the Hunter joined the board there and so the Ukrainian prosecutor-general Victor Shogun was looking into this corrupt influence-peddling thing. I was off of ski was also prior. He had been the minister of interior in Ukraine and when he was the minister of interior, he dealt to his own company gasoline contracts, It's as though, you know, you were the guy who was in charge of selling military buying military jets for the military and you also owned the company that sold the Jets and you gave yourself the contracts and you weren't very careful about the pricing. That's how slow chesky got rich by basically raping the people of Ukraine it through that process center Johnson continues its khong Portable is that in George Kent's interview before our committee. He pointed out that seven million dollar bribe was paid by Gloucester by Brisa to make those investigations go away in months after Hunter Biden and David Archer joined the board of briefs. But remember Hunter Biden joined the board supposedly to consult on corporate governance and transparency. I do particularly good job, but then you have to Russia three and half million dollars paid to Elena baturina the former wife of the now deceased former mayor of Moscow. She's she's Russia's lone woman busy or a woman billionaire in Russia got her billions through probably Corrupt Practices being the mayor's wife. We had a very strange payment from Kazakhstan about $42,000 to buy a car for Devon Archer and then so 3 and 1/2 million dollars from the wife of the Moscow former Moscow mayor. A billionaire three and a half million dollars to Hunter Biden for what? And then this car purchased from Kazakhstan, what kind of car is $140,000 and certainly in Kazakhstan. What kind of car is $142,000. It was just a shell purchased right the millions of cash flow between the intricate web of corporate dealings with the Chinese Nationals have had have current connections to the communist government and former affiliations with the people's Liberation Army helping arrange for example that the purchased by and the control of buy Chinese business of a u.s. Dual parts auto wage facture. The the type of equipment could be used for military purposes by the TLA again such an extensive web. There's so many millions of dollars flowing back and forth with those associations. We just took only uncovered. I think we're only scratching the surface. We have no guarantee that we've uncovered at all. We just really laid out a pretty troubling web that represents potential conflict-of-interest counterintelligence and your name Torching wrists to abide Administration You know despite the the program issues there earlier in sorry. Thanks for hanging in there. You know, it's important that I'm covering this and you notice that all of the videos almost all the video that I have is from Fox News, and that's not because I choose Fox News as a biased Source. I went to every other one of the networks. I went to CNN. I went to MSNBC. I went to ABC CBS NBC MSNBC went to all the alphabets solid networks. I went to a gym every every single one of them. I went to o a n even no one. No, one had coverage of this. The vice president's son has been involved in corrupt dealings and it appears that we're going to find out here a little bit that the vice president himself has been involved in these corrupt dealings and we have some evidence that has emerged in this these hearings that demonstrates that and the major news networks can be bothered to cover it. Unbelievable. Wow. I'm going to take a quick break. Hopefully some of the rest of the stuff so it'll crash the software again. I'll be right back after that. Thanks for hanging in there and being patient. I appreciate it. I'll be right back. Song welcome back to Republic keep it podcast broadcast Facebook show live stream TV show whatever the heck this thing is now I'm not sure you want to call it but welcome back to it off and having a good time most of the time in the software crashes. That's not so fun. That was kind of scary. Anyway, welcome back and young man, you know, it seems like no matter what time I get out of bed. Somehow I still run out of time getting ready for the show. It's just amazing. But anyway here I am and so Senator Johnson's report what is showing and he said this panoply of thing, so I want to talk about a little bit of what he's talking about when he says that that all these connections off. Overseas and what they are they are vast and so Hunter basically was traveling around the world off on Air Force 2 with a secret service detail. Meeting with Chinese and Russian and Ukrainian diplomats. He went to Moscow. We went to Beijing you went to Shanghai. You went to Taipei. He went to Hong Kong. He went all over. Hunter was a Globetrotter on your nickel and mine with a full security detail. So August of last year 2019 finance committee wage truck route Charlie Grassman Chuck harassment started looking into this and the reason that they waited so long is because the first thing was the Mueller investigation what the Mueller investigation kept saying to the Senate is don't touch this don't touch this this as part of our purview part of our domain leave it alone and it was it turns out now a stall tactic. Yep, it was a stall tactic. So in fact, let's just go to that right now. I'm going to jump right over to this and I am John Solomon reports today. Okay, just hour and half ago 45 minutes ago and FBI agent who played a lead role in investigating Michael Flynn told the justice department thought there was never evidence of wrongdoing by the retired general or Russian collusion collusion by President Trump, but the probe was kept open by special counsel Robert Mueller because his team had a quote get Trump goal. According to the explosive interview released Friday just today just this morning just now just as we're doing the broadcast a live agent William Barnett's interview with the justice department prosecutors earlier this month provided a bombshell claimed that both FBI superiors and under agency director James Comey and Mueller's teenage exhibited bias in their pursuit of trump that upended the normal investigative decisions tactics and commitment to pursue evidence neutrally off. The interview emerged just one day after the justice department released text messages showing FBI analyst bought liability insurance. In January to 17th because they feared they can be sued for misconduct due to the Russia probe. Burnett thought that the Trump campaign may have been aware that the Russians were attempting to impact the election but that was Far different from the Trump campaign and the Russians having a deal or working together quid-pro-quo the report of his seven September seventeenth interview says aren't another joked about how the investigation and exclusion could be made into gay into a game which they referred to as collusion clue off in the hypothetical game investigators are able to choose any character conducting any activity in any location and pair this individual with another character and interpret it as evidence of collusion. You're what you're saying the inside the FBI they were saying all you have to do is put two people in the same room, and you could call it collusion. Put two people on the same phone call and you can call it collusion. That's what they did to General Flynn and now it's admitted. Burnett added with respect to Flynn's phone call with the Russian Ambassador in December 2016. Barnett did not believe Flynn was being directed by Trump Barnett did not believe Flynn had any additional information to provide the special counsel Barnett believe the prosecution of Flynn by the special counsel was used as a means to quote get Trump. There's a PDF of his birth you I'm going to include it in the show notes on the podcast. So you'll be able to get the PDF of the interview with the show notes Barnett described how the top levels of the FBI including now fired deputy director Andrew McCabe suddenly took over the investigation after Trump won the November 2016 election and continue to keep the case going even though there was little detail concerning specific evidence of criminal life events. And it's still did not see any evidence of collusion between Trump campaign and the Russian government. The interview report stated Barnett was willing to follow any instructions being given by the deputy director as long as it's not a violation of law the agent added that he thought the investigation was built on supposition on supposition, especially the predicate to investigate Flynn, which she described as not great wage and not clear. Like the analysts who allegedly bought liability insurance part at said he had a reservation State the FBI's conduct of the case might Boomerang specifically, he feared the pursuit of trump and Flynn was problematic and could result in An Inspector General investigation. And so back to our theme Here the Dick Morris says off the Ukraine thing was an investigation that was a smoke screen, but the further the Mueller investigation Not only was a sham but it kept the Senate from getting into this any sooner. So Chuck Grassley finally open this, you know thing in August of last year, but it took that long because of that. Okay, and so There's this car from from Kazakhstan, right? There's the Russian mayor's wife. And then there's a bunch of Chinese money using mang Chinese National close ties to the Communist party boss Chinese military founder of China energy fund committee. Okay, millions of dollars in cash flow benefiting the Biden family is what the report says. Okay. Just read what it says G G Men's Enterprise and Hunter Biden were flagged by the treasury Department for a potential criminal Financial activity and in February 2018 thought he was a reportedly under investigation China for suspected economic crimes. Okay, so he's also connected to the government in China to the Army. In fact, he served as the deputy General Secretary General of the China Association for International Friendly contacts, which is their political liaison Department of the army. Okay, then another guy Kong lend dong another Chinese General help funnel millions of dollars to a hunter Biden even facilitate a six-figure global spending spree for Hunter Biden age and Joe Biden's brother James Biden and James's wife Sarah Biden. They all got money from Ghana wind dong and they got it because Hunter Biden got to go there on Air Force One with a secret Thursday Taylor forced to I'm sorry with a secret service detail and talk to him. While they'll blinds a credit that that Hunter Biden could could access and then the Ukraine mayor and what a mess, right? So Senator Johnson continues with some more Revelations here is Senator Johnson know as far as we can tell there's only one person to buy ministrations and it actually talk to them and talks with vice president, but he was fifteen who was a special Envoy over to Ukraine actually did talk to vice president about how troubling this was this this conflict of interests which by the way let the vice president then talked to Hunter Biden to set up a meeting with Amos hochstein to talk about this now. Remember Vice President Biden famously in the end of the 2009 said he never had spoken to his son about his overseas business dealings. This sure sounds like a conversation. He probably had with Hunter Biden about his position on recent was bored. So, I'm sorry to say I have I think we We've crossed the vice-president Ally which probably way I never believed that was true. How can you literally fly over to China? You know, it's not just a half hour flight that multiple our flight to hack Hunter Biden on Air Force two for all those many hours. Then Hunter Biden had his own agenda in China which included by the way setting up a handshake with a vice president with John Fenley one of his business associates. How could you not discuss that? So there's the first question I have for the vice president. Do you stand by your statement that you never spoke to Hunter about his overseas business in light of this new information about the device presence could have a really hard time explaining that if you ever asked and pressed on it and if he has ever asked is the question who's going to ask him the net worth of uncovered this literally, there's no one who's covered this at all. None of the networks have covered this right? And you know, of course we know why they haven't covered it right? It's not favorable to their candidate dead. It's not favorable to Joe Biden and the media is a participant in the race. Now, they're not they're not a an Informer of the facts and that may include Fox for for being you know, biased fine. But the and me, I'm biased, you know, I'm not a neutral Observer at any level here and I don't purport to be you know, you know, I don't want to be neutral. I have a side. I have a dog in the fight. I have an interest in the outcome, right? So hold on here. I got a I got a click a button on something. Otherwise, it's going to screw things up again. I want to play from you Greg Jarrett who I don't know if how much you guys know about Gregg Jarrett. He's a Fox News host guy, right but more importantly he's a an attorney and a constitutional guy who understands from the stuff at a pretty good level. And so let's hear what Gregg Jarrett has to say on this and I think if I've got that set, right we won't actually crash anything else. Find out here we go with Gregg Jarrett. I think well, a lot of this is being covered up by the obama-biden administration for years the Intel Community as well as the FBI. This is a damning report that accuses Hunter Biden of influenced heavily in profiteering and directly connected to his father who said she I knew nothing about it. Now, we know thanks to this report. That was a lie. He was briefed about it. He was warned about it. He spoke to his son about it. Look it's a crime to confer a benefit to a foreign government in exchange for something of value for yourself or your relative including your son. It's public corruption. It's you know extortion embezzlement. All of those words get thrown around almost beside himself off. The public corruption think about this Barista is paying four million dollars to Hunter Biden at the same time. His father is pressuring Ukraine to drop an investigation into his son's company. You know it ran Paul is right. Let's send this to the Department of Justice at the lawyers take a look at it and decide whether a criminal prosecution is merited but I'm not surprised that the mainstream media you identify them were crickets about that. They're not neutral news organizations their Advocates and Protectors of Joe Biden and the Democrats. That's right Advocates and protectors are Joe Biden and the Democrats and that's unfortunate because can you imagine if this were reverse? This was Don Jr. And Don Jr. Had been receiving, you know, $183,000 a month from some, you know, Ukrainian company or some foreign country club. Company while his because of his dad's presidency and you just imagine the outcry there would be behind that. I mean, it's just unbelievable, right? That's just the double standard here is crazy and and it's g n n and MSNBC not a word about it. I mean, it's just unbelievable. Here's one more Senator Johnson. I've already said an invitation to be turn off both Hunter and Devin Archer and I will note that the the President Trump's family the members of his campaign staff did not require any subpoenas whatsoever to income and subject themselves to a transcribe the interview. So so Hunter and Devin in Courthouse, the invitation is open to vice president as well. If if we're getting something wrong here, there's a innocent explanation for these thoughts Jackson's we're happy to come and listen that innocent explanation. Now the problem with subpoena is where you started going down the path of legal proceedings, and you know, I've only got three months. My chairmanship I want to conclude this investigation by the end of this Congress. So the American people know what happened that they have the right to know this so subpoenas. It sounds like pretty good idea and they can be pretty powerful more as a threat than anything else. But from my standpoint this report ought to create the public pressure on Hunter on Devon on the vice president to start coming clean with the American public and start providing some ass because again, the extortion counterintelligence the conflict of interests threats that this information poses all this intricate web of connections with foreign Nationals home or Nationals that are by the way countries are not our friends are countries that are not our friends China and and all these other countries are paying for influence here. And I think that the question that that should be asked as what are they buying? What are they getting for their money? I don't I assume that they're not doing it out of the goodness of their heart. So I want to take a quick break and I will be right back and Hope. You can't things stay up and running. Wow little bit edgy today, but that's all right things work out. So be right back. Welcome back to Republic keep a gas broadcast. Whatever. This is. You know, I'm not sure what to call it. You think about renaming it because the podcast is what it is most molesters are on the podcast but growing audiences everywhere. And so, you know, I'm not sure whatever I guess we'll leave it alone for now. And anyway, welcome back and yeah, you know, I got to figure out how to change plan this thing that better suits not so rough. Oh man, you know listener-supported and you know, the more support we get the less rough it would be right. So thanks for your help. Those of you who support the shows appreciate it and the question I was asking before the break is what were they buying for? The money that they were paying to Hunter Biden? I don't want to assume that it was out of the goodness of their heart dead. And I think that other people have made the same conclusion that it was out of the goodness of their heart. And so here is Peter Schweizer. Yeah, that's right Shawn. Thank you. And by the way the wrong with the reason we're at the point where the Senate has looked into this is because you interviewed me two years ago and Amplified our findings and what the Senate has done is they've used tools that I didn't have access to home. Not only confirmed what we've found but but take it a step further and what they've shown is that Hunter Biden was involved in a series of Foreign Corrupt schemes that track suspicious activity reports are so-called s r a s a r transactions by the treasury Department. These are triggered when money is Flowing from either sketchy individuals wage or the amount of money in question is Raising alarm Bells. So this is not a question of anonymous sources or speculation. We now know that money changed hands. We know who it came from. We not dead. Came from countries that are arrivals and we knew what know it came from very corrupt entities around the world and the questions Sean continues to be why did they give Hunter Biden this money? He didn't have that skillset. He didn't have qualifications. They were paying for something. These are not Charities and that's the question that Joe Biden and Hunter by need answer right? And so, you know when you come to the Ukraine, he didn't speak Ukrainian doesn't speak Russian. He had no background in gasoline. He had no background in corporate governance. Other than well. I mean maybe he was on the Amtrak Board of Supervisors George W bush appointed him to that and probably as a favor to his dad probably too by a vote that Joe didn't want to give up without something because he's quid pro Joe it appears and so Jim Jordan basically says look, you know the Senate comes out with this report and we we ought to check it out and so yep. A saying that well you got yeah, there's going to be with you got to respected Senators Senator Grassley, Senator Johnson issuing a report that has a number of alarming findings in it. All we're saying is mr. Ray check it out. Look into this if this was anyone else at this was any of this has any of the President Trump's children or frankly anybody in the country, you know would be front page. It would be there would be this demand from the press two check them out to look into this. That's what brand is asking Senator Paul's asking for that's what we're asking for. Let's just check it out and get the answers for the American people. Now seems pretty reasonable. Let's check it out and get the answers to American people. Why not? What's the what's the fear? You know if there if there's nothing dirty then no big deal, right and you know, there's even a month ago from a I always from talking about, you know, some people are bugged by it's funny I get messages. You shouldn't talk about your Christianity so much. Okay fine. That's fine. You don't have to listen to me. You know, you get what you pay for free last I checked but you know, there's a Bible verse in Romans thirteen. It says that authorities are not a terror to good works. If you're doing the right thing, you don't have to be afraid of getting pulled over but it's not an issue if you're doing the right thing, there's no problem. And so these guys who say well, you know, they shouldn't be inspecting. You know, what's happening here. Well, if you're doing the right thing, no big deal, right? So here's Doug Collins basically saying, you know, he's glad to see the investigation. It's great. I'm glad to finally hear it. I mean, just think about this list for the last year we dealt with the President Trump's very long. Gentlemen, very on his phone call with Ukrainian president, but we didn't really ever talked about was Joe Biden and Hunter Biden and the skeletons that they have in the closet from the Ukraine. I mean, this is really now coming out. We're actually getting to see what we've done about in the corruption is behind this all along. So now let's see if Joe Biden can actually answer a corruption issue that he has been a part of where son got $50,000 from a company in which he had no business getting only because his life was bad and only because his dad was the vice president and we'll see if he'd actually influence there. So it's gonna be good. I'm glad to say let's let's find out. Let's find out. What what did you get paid for Hunter? What did you do a what was the work that you did there? How did that work? You know, I mean you got paid a buttload of money good job, you know hard to hard to fault a guy for getting paid, right? And you know, Tom Cotton weighed in on this to for decades Hunter Biden and Joe Biden's brother have been coasting off of his public office earning millions of dollars from Chinese firm. And Ukrainian oligarchs Chinese firms in Ukrainian oligarchs good deal. If you can get it right good deal and get enough Chuck Schumer not impressed with Chuck is not impressed. He thinks this is just a big waste time Senator Grassley and Johnson should reimburse taxpayers for the money. They wasted a Johnson report should be relegated to the Dustbin of History the Dustbin of History. That's where we put it the Dustbin of History. Well, you know, probably it will be eventually like in you know, three or four hundred years when nobody cares anymore, but for now it's off the front page news if anybody, you know is honest in the media and maybe they're not but this just imagine at any level if I mean if Donald Trump junior took a candy bar from somebody overseas It would be you know, Candy Tycoon tries to bribe Don Jr. You know, the media is just so unfair and in the tank it's it's ridiculous and and they ought to be embarrassed those of you in the media who you know watch this and I are here at I know some of you listen to the podcast. It's just it's disgusting here is Doug Collins one more time, and I couldn't agree more with Doug Collins here over 400 trips your reaction to that that seems to be a lot it is a lot because we always say we see a trail of Hunter making money wherever he goes. We saw it in China. We see it in the Ukraine. I want to stop you. Do you see the email that's on the screen for those you watch it on the stream. And for those of you listening on the podcast, I'm going to read it. This is an email from George or to George Kent. Okay from Marie Ivanovic the Ambassador. So from one ambassador to the other and there's some other people on it that that are copied but it's redacted and the subject line says Medved linked Vesti trolls Biden and the date is Tuesday the 17th of January 2017. So that's three days before inauguration day off, gift that keeps on giving with Medved Chuck affiliate investee pushing this troll like storyline on visit day. So she's concerned about the storyline that's being pushed because she doesn't like the fact that it's the truth. They're talking about biting. I think getting this out is a definitely I mean it was a great thing for him to use his father's and title is Vise. So then the next thing is this song s t and his email says it's to give media and it says will Joe Biden arrived to secure his son's business according to experts Joe Biden as The Unofficial curator of the club. Ukrainian question will give Petro poroshenko recommendations about working with the new US Administration. Another aspect is the protection of his own business interests. In other words. Trump's been elected. Biden was making the last trip and everybody's asking why is Biden coming to Ukraine? You want to Ukraine three days before the inauguration and or three or four days before and the answer was because I thought they said because he was handed it giving advice to Petro about handling the new Administration which he was he told him that Trump was like a the dog who caught the car is what Joe Biden said, he was a dog in the car and Trump is like the dog who caught the car. He caught the car. He doesn't know what to do. That was the advice he gave Petro poroshenko over the phone that we got, but apparently it's he was saying that they're both the state department email. Another aspect is the production of his own business interests present and last name of to enrich his own wealth, and I think we're seeing that and he's been hid from us he can save Bad judgement, but he was a calculated move in the vice president knew he was on those trips the vice president knew what was going on Joe Biden you this? Joe Biden new this Joe Biden do this. Now. I have sons and I had a dad and some of you have you know, everybody's had a farm right and some of you have sons and some of you are old enough you have adult sons and adult children like I do and Joe Biden and Hunter Biden were travelling into the point earlier. They were traveling on Air Force two. It's like a 15 hour trip to China. I don't know how long it is. It's not fast. You're not going there in two hours. Even on Air Force to enforce to doesn't I think she took a commercial jet speed right? So probably souped up if it needs to be but the reality is just on a normal trip. They're just flying normal commercial air speed and so it's 1415 hour trip and they were traveling around the globe like this all the time and Hunter was getting introduced to business people and introducing his dad to business people and Joe and Hunter say that they never discussed business dead. Credible believable. Do you believe Joe Biden when he says he never discussed business with Hunter cuz I don't it's not credible. It's not believable and I'd like to know what the money was for Monday. I'd like to know what they got and what policy interests were achieved and I'm not sure that anywhere but I I know that it's very interesting almost hochstein who's mentioned here. I'm going to have to explode this a little more maybe over the weekend and pull it together by next week almost hochstein who's mentioned here was Joe Biden's Point man on Ukraine. He is also today a board member of NAFTA gas the Ukrainian gas company. So a lot of these a lot of the corruption happened not necessarily in the government, but by people getting placed in the right place or on the right board, there was one guy that I saw the report was that he was on ten Boards of birth of corrupt companies for a hundred grand a month each. So he had a million dollars a month coming in from these ten operations, and he didn't do anything for it except that he was the guy who greased Pig Open and so you got placed all these boards and this is the way the whole Washington Gameworks. You need a vote on something and I know this we're talking about overseas. I'm mixing the two things together. But this is the way the whole political world works. You need a vote on something and you need somebody to be your ally you say. Hey, I hear your I hear your son. So and so, you know needs a job. I hear your I hear your daughter just got out of college and she's got a law degree and and needs to get a job at a law firm. Well, I happen to have a friend over here at such-and-such a law firm, you know, maybe I could get her an interview. You know if you can support my bill. And so it's that's the way that that the whole world works right in terms of this kind of public corruption and see exactly what the public corruption laws are intended to prevent. And in fact this case did not succeed in preventing it appears and so Hunter Biden minimally is I think the nicest thing that we could say about him is that he's not a good guy and he's had some real drug and personality problems and appears to be a criminal whether or not that has sucked his dad into criminal Behavior month or into just knowing about it and not saying anything who knows and you know, maybe Joe Biden is a guy who's just trying to protect his criminal son and there's maybe some level of nobility in that but in the end we're hiring a president here and that's none of that works. So we'll leave it there and I will see if I can get out of this broadcast without, you know, destroying the computer and the software and we'll see you next week on the remote broadcast. Thanks again for your time and attention. This is the website and it's all new and it's better and it's getting better every minute. So we'll see what happens. Thanks again.

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Did You Pay to Have the Trump Team Spied on (Ep 1103)

The Dan Bongino Show

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Did You Pay to Have the Trump Team Spied on (Ep 1103)

"Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host. Dan Bongino engy. No welcome to the Dan Bongino show on this Tuesday another stack loaded show today producer. Joe Today my friend. He's a fine and wonderful day. Good to be here legally Daniel. The Irish Joe Armacost they believe you are Scottish. Correct armacost coat of arms and stuff like that The organ armacost. Very Nice folks. Listen we are loaded up. Today's Joe knows he's been doing cutting a lot of video and audio i. I've got a ton of stories where let me go and tell you what we're going to go. I've got some crazy new connections coming out and I'm basically going to expose to you for you. So get ready. My what the G. as we used to call the secret of the government he insiders swamp. Rats are really worried about. And I'M GONNA make a prediction here. Yeah I'm going to predict what's GONNA come out this I report. That's GonNa Freak you out in a show you some evidence. You're GONNA love that. I got some video from the White House. Yesterday it's liberals head-spinning Reagan style from the exorcist. Assist Not Ronald of course Linda Blair style gotta trump tweet. That's GONNA blow your mind. And some project Veritas video had tip James O'Keefe into crew about all jeff heads probably going to blow your mind a little bit. Don't go anywhere. Let's get right to in today's show brought to you by buddies. At Policy Genius Policies Genius Dot Com folks go to policy genius Dot Com compare life insurance quotes in two minutes. Listen nobody likes to go and shop for Life Insurance. It's one of those things we procrastinate. We put off but it's one of the most important things you can do for the safety and security financially of your own family. It's the season now to elect benefits do your workplace. Most people know open enrollment decision time for healthcare coverage. But it's the perfect moment to reassess your life. 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You can help you with disability insurance home insurance too so when you look at workplace benefits this month make sure to double check your life insurance options. Che's then go to policy gene DOT COM and get quotes and apply in minutes policy genius Dot Com the easiest way to compare by life insurance. All right. Joe Let's go how nice I started at a light story before we dig into the really heavy stuff for you today folks because this is GonNa absolutely scramble your marbles here how liberals are so easily triggered these snowflakes snuggie wearing marshmallow eating s'mores roasting liberal who just cannot the by the way the guys tweet I'm GonNa show his response responds isn't really technically a liberal but he's acting like went out. Here's the White House yesterday. President trump had a great ceremony for the world series champion. Washington nationals tells me what are their better players. Kurt Suzuki comes up. They'd say a few words and he does something interesting is he's walking up to make which definitely surprises. President trump. Check this video out. Come in say a couple words come on I love you all I love you all. Aw thank you. What what job he did? I didn't know that was going to happen. What he's talking about? What was going to happen happened? The president's Zouqi walks up and puts Maga- hat on which clearly enraged a bunch of anti-trumpers Liberals and snowflakes. Just go to twitter yesterday. It's almost comical mkhalele. Put this on here and it opened up the show you how just crazy the opposition is here. The hoax loving Democrats liberals here's norm Ornstein at abnormally Ornstein. Who's completely who trump broke this man completely? He broke him like he broke. Matt Max boot Formerly respected people. Who aren't anymore very sad? Ornstein says says I love Kurt Suzuki as a player but he wore a Magar hat to the White House so I will not cheer him. Oh serious horrified. Not Quite as bad for Ryan Zimmerman. Brian Zimmerman praise trump but his praise for trump is hard to take listen norm before I move on. I promise you. Kurt Suzuki is one of the most talented athletes in the world. He is is in a great marriage with a great wife. He loves his family and he's one of the most respected athletes in baseball. I sincerely doubt he gives a rat's ass what norm Ornstein over hyphen hard. Pass Right Joe. Marred past thought norm Ornstein. Go back to your thing take norm and your marshmallows. Mellow and your snuggie and enjoy yourself. Kurt Suzuki we'll be just fine. I promise you moving onto some more serious like taken by by Steve. CUCO MR Olympia. Make bodybuilding grant again. Love this shirt sue. It's great to work out into its super thin. All right folks this is I know I tell you what's important and I say is important. Sometimes I say stuff's important he like you say it's important because a lot of things are reporting this what I'm about to tell you. This segment is very important. The deep state is in the swamp rats involved in the whole spying operation on trump. That's about to be exposed henceforth the reason for the impeachment probe job the fake Whistleblower Gate Muller Gate Collusion Gate. All the fake gates used against trump. The hoax. These hoaxes keep happening for reasons because they don't want something to come out. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA start with the lead here. I'm not going to bury it and then I'm GonNa get into it and I'm GonNa explain you at the lead. The lead is this what the deep status in the government don't want you to know. Is that the spying operation on President. Trump may have been financed just by the US government itself. Oh wait time so I I'll play it out for you. We're going to go there. We set it up but how does that differ. Why is that a big deal? And how is it different from what we've heard before what we've been told previously based on a tremendous amount of research done by me and others and I've been holding this for a long time and comfortable with it now was that yeah the operation. Despite on trump to the FBI the Pfizer Court Hillary Clinton and fusion. A lot of it was financed by Hillary Clinton enright Joe or payments to a law firm Perkins Kuu either turn paid fusion ladies. Gentlemen what if I told you that some of this may have been financed by the US government. I'm in itself. Okay let's go so let's go to this piece in the federalist by an excellent researcher a fantastic thicke investigative journalist Margot Cleveland. WHO's broken a lot of information on his folks? The show notes a must read today. Go to Bongino DOT COM subscribe to the newsletter. Her this story will be in there. It'll be attached to the podcast on my website to Bungee DOT COM SCOOP MARGOT CLEVELAND THE FEDERALIST CIA and FBI informant. It was a Washington Post source for Russia Gate Smears. She's talking about Stefan Helper. Now remember the lead. I laid it out and advance was the. US government actually financing and pay for spying operation against a political opponent of Barack Obama breath. Oh we haven't heard that one yet. Have we know what they're hiding. Why are they hiding? Stephan Haufer now from from the Margot Cleveland piece where they write about the fun helper. The federal justice learn that the now outed. CIA and FBI. Informant the font. How but we know the guy who was spying? Being on behalf of the government on the trump team tried to spy on Popadopoulos and page that he also served as a source for Washington Post reporter. David Ignatius remember the same guy. I who wrote the story about Mike. Flynn call with the Russian Soi. David Ignatius seems to know a lot of people show. Yes providing more evidence that the intelligence community has co-opted the press to push anti-trump conspiracy theories in addition and email recently obtained by the federalist from the five connected. Christopher Andrew Brag that his longtime longtime friend David Ignatius has the inside track on Flynn which adds further confirmation of this conclusion. So we now know. According to Margo Cleveland's reported that Stefan Helper a US government spy by who we know was interacting with the trump team for the purpose of gaining information on the trump team to spy on them for the Obama Administration. Now we know that how Perez well may have not only been involved in the operation to take down trump but also in the operation to takedown. Flynn that we knew. I already know if you listen to show. How is an integral figure in the attempt to take down? Mike Flynn as well. But what's new here. Air Is that how per may have been a source for David Ignatius From The Washington Post David Ignatius from the Washington Post by the way who who again printed a story and had access to Flynn's phone call to the Russian ambassador. Now how does this all tie in to my my lead here. That was the government actually financing some of this stuff what are the additional suspected. Sources producer Sir Joseph for David Ignatius of the Washington. Post one of the suspects is a guy named James Baker not not the James Baker Acre at the FBI who was calling his lawyer legal guy in the FBI. Not Dad James Baker. There's another James Baker a a military official who works at the office of net assessments. which is a cute title for an operation that basically pays intelligence login figures they basically are like a prop arm for the for the CIA? I don't know any other way to say all right. But it's got a cutesy name. Joe Office of Net assessment. Aspen sounds like they're running spreadsheets. Or something on excel spreadsheets on the number of dog toys. Someone sold off assessments. They always have those kind of name. There are never cool names right. It's kind of like a Blink Operation Spitfire twenty two. Isn't that office of net assessment. So you don't pay attention to what's going on. Yeah that's good name so yeah right so now we know that this guy who runs the office of net assessments which works with the CIA to pay people like helper also may have been a source in in the take down of Mike. Flynn using media. Tools like David Ignatius of the Washington Post. We know how for May have been a source to again. What's the lead here? Does the government actually paying for this operation. So why are they hiding helper. Why is everybody in the media so obsessed with hiding how per remember the when when the story first broke the New York Times? He's not really a spy. Yeah yeah he's an undocumented government forman remember all these articles left is freaking out helpers. Not A spy. He's not a spy is an undocumented undocumented workplace in former band member the euphemism game bed. He's just fine folks spy forever. Yeah remember that the whole dance alpers helpers how helpers right very good why were they hiding helper let's go to this Washington Times piece which will be in the show notes. It's an older piece. That's the benefit to my show notes by the way we don't only include today's articles we include older the articles that are now relevant again today by row in scarborough who's done tremendous work at the Washington Times on this headline loose contracting practices. This is a Pentagon office wastes millions whistle blower punish Dan. What the heck you're talking about the government paying the spy on trump? We thought it was Hillary doing it house any of this related Laden. Oh Man let's take a little snippet from that piece by Rohan Scarborough and the Washington Times and see how this May in fact be related to the government payments used to spy on Donald trump quote from the Roman scarborough piece seven helper the professor became an FBI informant to spy on the trump ABC campaign failed to document the research. She did as a contractor on four Pentagon studies worth one million dollars and investigation found. Wow alpers getting a lot of money. It's crazy eared. The Department of Defense Inspector General's report exposes loose contracting practices at the Pentagon's office of net assessment. Gosh that's crazy how that keeps creeping up the same kind of problems reported by an analyst Adam Levinger who we reported on the past the office of net assessments later accused this whistleblower Levinger reporting on these payments to help her and others of mishandling sensitive if data and he's been suspended without pay. Wow so the office of net assessment where this Guy Baker works works James Baker who is suspected to be a source in the attack on. Mike Flynn through. The Washington. Post was paying Haufer who is also suspected affected of being a source for David Ignatius of the Washington. Post crazy how that would happen banker halpern net assessments. We Now know office of net assessments was was paying how for money and a whistle blower named Adam Levinger who exposed some of these payments for these faulty reports that how per was giving them that the to whistle blower was suspended at Joe. I thought we were told. Whistle blowers are to be beatified satified in sainted. They are never to be questioned. Whistle blowers no suspended suspend whistleblowers. We're just told that this whistle blower we not joe that this guy is to be sainted. He's to be promoted from priests to Bishop Cardinal Hope to say immediately now we find out an actual whistleblower exposing payments to halpern others in the office of net. Ed Assessments ridiculous payments. For a whole lot of money the government runs the office of net assessments. Folks our government your tax dollars dollars that he was suspended while remember that guy where they suspended him they said he disclosed sensitive data and I wasn't ncis or others in the report it said he did not disclose sensitive data and they deleted the not kind of a big delete. Remember that show. Yeah do Yep Yeah Adam. Levinger disclosed disclose sensitive data. The reports said he did not disclose sensitive data. They forgot to put the not in there. It's kind of like saying Joe robbed a bank and leaving out. The Joe did not robbed the bank like we left. It did not part out of it Kinda changes the story just a little bit little just a Tad. I gotTa Tell You As the UNBUCKLE UNBUTTON. I'm Bud Zeman. If there's an awful lot of cooks cooks in the kitchen here dude you know what I mean in this story. You're also aw I'm kind of having a little bit of difficulty following you. You know what I mean. Okay what I don I do. Not I ask you to be the ambassador for a reason I understand. Let me tie this up for you because I do have a loaded newsday today. I want to be sure you see exactly where I'm going with it. All right thank you. So let's just lay out where we are. We now know the government. The United States Government do wedding leading office of net assessment has been paying people for reports. Okay fine I have no problem with that intelligence reports we know one of the recipients of that those those payments were stefan how prefer grotesque amount of money we know a whistle blower in that office has sense the problem with some of those payments and the veracity the the information however was providing for that money. Okay get it. Hey we're paying this guy a lot of money this report Kinda suck okay. We now know that. In that office of net assessment it's one of the military officials running it. This Guy Baker is suspected to be a leak or David Ignatius. WHO's the same guy who wrote The Washington report that took down? Mike Flynn okay. We now know how per may be a leaker to Baker. I mean excuse me maybe leaker. To Ignatius to based on Margot Cleveland's latest report now. Let's put the Cherry on top of this little bad boy. Thanks Bro Remember this Kathleen Half Ren- Cavaliers note so Kathleen Cavalier is a State Department official. Who in October before the FIS war meets with Christopher Steele the alleged author of the dossier? We know it's true. It's really not the only author we know it's the Simpson Blank summit. I'm going to get to this at another other time. Someone else may have had some input into the dossier we know Chris Glenn Simpson did but still meets with the State Department official. He's alleged to be the author Through the trump dossier and he says to the Kathleen Kavulich the State Department Rep. would she takes a note under. I've circled for you. Hear that one of Simpson's sources it is a guy named Trubnikov Trubnikov Trubnikov. You mean the Russian intelligence officer so let me get the St. Christopher Steele was being paid paid by Glenn Simpson and Hillary is claiming now steal that one of the sources for the negative information on trump and the dossier that peop- tape and other resolve. Aw garbage that it's a Russian Intel officer connected to Putin. Isn't that fascinating. I don't Russian. Collusion was a Republican thing. Apparently it's a Democrat thing to steal but we'll leave that one for or another day again. What does this have to do with the G. paying potentially for spying paying for spying trying to hide it and being very very very concerned about how let's go to the series of tweets by a great investigative reporter for the daily Caller Chuck Roster tweeted out a while ago? But they are definitely worth earth your time now so. This was chuck back in May may seventeen. Here's a series of three tweets. I'm going to read to you the the key in this and let me see the leave these up for the second you well. I'm GonNa tell you where I'm going before I read these. Okay Trubnikov Ladies and gentlemen. The Russian Intel connected. Guy Was not steals. Buddy Trubnikov was someone else's buddy. Who May I suggest may have had a larger role role in the dossier? Then they're leading on. And if this guy who had a larger role in the dossier was being paid by the office of net assessments I the US government all ladies and gentlemen. We had a big problem. Don't we okay. Let's read these tweets by Chuck. Ross about Trubnikov remember steele says. It's his buddy. Because he wrote the dossier Joe Right Right. Winking Not Chuck Russ quote from Nick off also has links to Stefan how for all we he does. You mean the guy being paid by the government that guy how per tap Trubnikov contribute to a Pentagon study on China Russia issues. How per was a contractor at the time for the Pentagon's office of net assessment? Crazy crazy. How that happened K.? He used the offer to the right policy papers to get close to George. Popadopoulos chuck goes on how per also hosted in a rage trip nick off to speak at the Cambridge Intelligence. The seminar two thousand twelve in two thousand fifteen triptych off had visa problems. Gee I wonder why. He's a Russian Putin connected Intel Guy Prior to the two thousand fifteen visit but those has got cleared up I wonder how that happens one. Final tweet helpers role in hosting Travnik Office significant for a couple of reasons. How far resigned from the Cambridge Intelligence Seminar in December two thousand sixteen over what he claimed was undo Russian influence so stupid he reportedly? What are they concerned? That Russian operatives were given too much of a platform you mean the platform you got money from the US government to pay to host that Russia Russia. You mean platform folks. This all making sense to you. Now like are the bells and whistles going off yeah eight. US government paid spy. How per was always now alleged to be a source for the media to be spying for the government by the way being paid by the office of Net assessment assessments were a whistleblower discovered a lot of this and was suspended? I believe in their effort to hide in that same guy being paid by the taxpayer remember. We Thought Hillary painful which is bad enough love but now you paid for it. How her who is tight with nick off? I believe how bers information from Nikolov may have somehow found its way into the dossier after. How was the one getting paid by the government to develop said sources ladies and gentlemen if if that's the case now it makes perfect sense why the Democrats are eager still to make sure this is the steele dossier because that's bad enough? It's bad enough that Hillary paid a for an Intel Guy Christopher Steele to gin up information on track off. They Interviewed Review Chris. Theo after that interview joe the report was delayed. Yup Do you think it's possible that Christopher Steele may have noted in the interview with investigators looking into the spy gate fiasco that some of the information he came he said came from Trubnikov may have came from hopper paid for by U Aw Elizabeth Elizabeth. I'm just putting it out there folks. You heard it here. I I just want to show you a headline from the liberal media. Wrap it up with this from. Vox and Fox have V.. Vox like Victor Victor. Remember when they freed out with how presume came out. Here's the headline spy gate. The false allegation at the FBI had a spy in the trump campaign explained all about Stefan Halpern. Opin say. He didn't spy on trump. Here's what actually happened as by folks. They're freaking out because of how was being paid by O.. N. A. and a whistle blower suspended the hide it to spy on the trump team and the information steele saying came from Jamaica off actually came from helper and made it into the dossier. Oh boy do we have a problem. We have the US government. We have our taxpayer money. Being used to lie to a Pfizer court on behalf of a political candidate to take down another one. The verdict is in. And that's bull folks May Have to bleep the second part that. That's okay. Thanks Buddy. You can leave me asking for the bleep in there too. Thanks okay thank. Thanks for working with me on. That helped make sense. Yeah that really did too. Many too many cooks. Yeah thank you a lot like that. Yeah worked yes wait 'til that little doozy comes out. Yeah remember this day. 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We are loaded up today. So let's move on so yesterday. Major League blow out on outnumbered on Fox which was just a pleasure to watch in here. I know you got to see this. I don't I work at Fox. You know full disclosure. I work with both of the participants in this kind of on outnumbered. I don't have any. I don't make my politics personal you you know I. Just don't I've worked with them. They're they're fine but I going to take the side of one of them on this because the other side I just think is mis- misleading you without further ado. This was a debate going on outnumbered. About Joe Biden John Kerry Joe Biden son Hunter Biden an associate CEO. John Kerry Devon Archer. They're suspicious business dealings and Ukraine with this natural gas company and Watch the response to Steve Hilton from Marie. Har- fubo uses this Goto. Line us all the time. I'm not sure she knows what evidence means but she keeps saying every everytime she feels uncomfortable. She says there's no evidence I want. Oh you don't watch it. They they want to actually after this but this could have got good. They should've let go to longer check this out. There's a further element of corruption that needs to be looked into and again something that Ukraine should investigate. Which is John Kerry's corruption? He was secretary of state that the time he was also involved in channeling money to Ukraine. His former chief of staff Dolph was hired by soon. After Hunter Biden went on the board they hide John Kerry's former chief of staff while he was secretary of state state paid him money from his. MMA could have come from the US tax payer that money is circle back to Democratic senators. Who then right to the administration calling for more money to be sent to all of that needs to be investigated John Kerry's evidence that that I just or evidence department all oh covering up the corruption to defending are you are you much? Billions of the old counties. We're talking about the news. Please don't accuse me of covering something up up you want because there's no way old all. Oh that thing would nuclear. That was all over the the twitter yesterday. Well let me just via made. And I'm by the way I'll say and I'll open invitation real debate Marie on this topic anytime This is not here to defend yourself and unlike liberals I don't like to engage in East kinda these things especially with co workers if the bed but I you know she she wants come on the show. I'm happy debater on him. So let's be clear about this. We know for a fact we call evidence data points. I don't I don't know what Euphemism Marines I miss confused about. Whatever it is we know for a fact that Hunter Biden wasn't fact hired by a natural gas company and Ukraine while Joe Biden was in the administration is vice president assign nine as the point man on Ukraine and actually discussing natural gas? None of that is in dispute. You can dispute that but that would be just simply foolish I. I don't know how else to describe. Those accepted facts. Okay we know one hundred Biden was hired without any of the requisite skills on the board to me the requirements any board member would have to add value to that company. Hunter Biden had no skills in Ukraine. No skills the natural gas arena at all. Nothing hundred Biden was clearly hired because of his last name again not in dispute among reasonable people. A fact we also know at Associated John John Kerry Devon Archer was also on the board. I'm going to get to John's Solomon piece in a minute of burris Ma the natural gas company and we also know now pursuant. The emails was uncovered by John. Solomon that Devon Archer was actually seeking meetings with John Kerry and other people in the State Department and other Barack Obama lawyers and other representatives to to make a lot of this investigation go away poof into Barista for corruption while hundred Biden Devon Archer and associated. John Kerry's on the board. I say to Marie you you suggesting that there's no evidence doesn't mean there's no evidence there's no evidence you saying. No evidence is actually true. And you attacking Steve like that. It's kind of pretty horrible. And I'll debate you at any time you want a rematch on onto five or some. I'm ready anytime. Yeah you're going to get a challenge. Any of the fact Steve put out there. You're going to get a blood. Maybe yeah I mean. What do you do the bank records for the payments? Maybe the only person media hasn't seen this stop and I worked for the State Department. It's not an what does that mean I don't and with that means that you worked for the state. So the facts are you worked for the state. So Biden didn't work for Barack Obama. I don't care how these two things are coralling. A great you you work for the State Department even worse that you're unfamiliar. Apparently with the evidence somebody say good for Steve Way to hit that. Hit back hard all the time now John Solomon yesterday another tremendous piece of reporting by John. WHO's just been knocking it out of the ballpark lately? I'll have this article up at the show notes. Please look at it. John has been just all over this. He's got his new WHO Senator John Solomon reports. This would be up in the show notes again you subscribe to a newsletter. I'll send them right to you breaking yesterday. I don't know if Marie read this or she didn't happy to debate it anytime. Any time. November Four Twenty Nine Thousand Nine Headline John Solomon Hundred. Biden's Ukraine gas firm press the Obama Administration to end the corruption allegations memo. Show folks. You understand nothing you've been told about. Now you understand why Ukraine Gate whistle blower gate is such a big deal. You get that right. Remember the Golden Rule it Democrats always Joseph always accuse you of what they're doing so now we know the prior segment Tien in here that we may have actually paid tax payers the office of net assessments to produce information from Russians against trump. That was false. I would call that collusion now. Trump did it right. They did it. Ukraine Gate. Eight is there is a Ukraine gate about Biden and about the DNC working with Ukraine to impact the election target trump. But they need you to believe it's about about trump's so they just make it up through the fake whistle blower but now we're finding out that the Ukraine gate story involving Biden and the hiring of his son. They're paying for his last name obviously to access the State Department. Joe What were we toll. We were told clearly by Joe Biden. I didn't talk to my son about this. We find out that was alive. We find that the sun is already admitted to talking to his dad about it and the dad has already admitted talking. You aside about it what we also find out that all of these claims by the Democrats said this hiring of hundred Biden and John Kerry's buddy John's homey there Devon Archer homes that it was no. Oh big deal about. They were not trying to leverage their contacts in the Obama Administration. Joe It was just straight up deal. Business deal because Devon Archer and Hunter Biden Arches so indispensable and qualified to be board members on natural gas company that they were hired for their mad skills. uh-huh we find out John Salomon's peace. Let's take little portion of the piece here. That hundred Biden's names specifically doc was invoked by Barack Obama as a reason that the State Department should help them say what according to a series of email exchanges among US officials. Again end for Marie. We would call this evidence according to a series of email exchanges among US officials trying to arrange the meeting the subject line for the email exchange simply red berets MMA. So let's get this straight. Keep that up a second here. So the BARISTA's risk people that hired Hunter Biden's kids specifically invoked the hiring of Biden and his name to get immediate State Department people. Wow that's crazy. I thought that didn't happen quote per our conversation station. This is one of their email exchanges. Karen Tra- Montano a blue star strategies. That's a legal. Firm representing charisma strategy firm requested a meeting meeting to discuss with Novelli. That's a US government representative from the State Department alleging corruption a February twenty four twenty sixteen e mail between state officials read quote. She noted that too high profile citizens are affiliated with the company including Hundred Biden as a board member SA. That's not possible. Joe that email can't be real right. That's not evidence. Clearly it's made up right now. We were told specifically no no. It's not no. I'm sorry as the audience budget. You gotta see corrections whether or not that. We need a crazy. You're about clearly kept you know it's real. The State Department is clearly being contacted acted by a political tactic strategy. Legal representative from Burris MMA trying to get a meeting with the State Department to clear up a charge against charisma corruption charge while hundred Biden and different archer are sitting on the board of Berea crazy. Weird we were told. That doesn't happen happen Joe. That didn't happen recess. There's no evidence so that email clearly burris right. There's no clearly a fake okay. But he gets to the second portions of this piece. I get the oiler ways. It's like an infomercial away. There's more there's more evidence not air quote evidence. Forget to that they also brought you buddy. Thanks for your patience. 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Check him out today okay the second takeaway from this John Solomon Peace Remember. Remember folks keep this all in mind. We were told the real Ukraine scandals about trump and the deal non deal fro quid. Quid pro quo. That didn't even happen. Because we have the transfer we were told. That's the real scandal just like we were told. Russian collusion was about trump to now we find out. The real scandal may be hundred Biden using daddy's name and Burris mother to try to get interviews and access to the State Department to clear up a corruption investigation into the company. He was working for crazy. Well here's takeaway number two about another well connected cat. Sitting on this Barista. Aboard Company. Being investigated by the Ukrainians as apparently Joe Biden's pressuring the Ukrainians Ukrainians to fire the prosecutor looking into it. Wow take away number to quote from the John Solomon piece. But the records do indicate indicate that one hundred Biden's fellow American board members Charisma Devon Archer Associated John Kerry folks a very close one secured a meeting on March second two thousand sixteen with Secretary of State John Kerry himself. How did that happen? In addition to serving on the Barilla aboard Archer and hundred mine were partners at an American phone firm known as Rosemont Seneca. Here's an email quote David Archer coming to seize s today. The Secretary of state of three. PM needs someone to meet and greet him at C. Street an email from Kerry's office managers again. We recall that evidence folks. I'm just putting that dad there. S is shorthand frequently using. The stadium is to describe the secretary of state the member who don't state the reason for the meeting. I I thought I thought this stuff was happening. So let me be clear. This BURRIS MA hires associated John Carey in the son of Joe Biden while Joe Biden is the point man on Ukraine where Barista's located and discussing natural gas as his point man role as VP. Natural Gas Policy Prisms the natural gas company. Joe Biden's claim there's nothing to see here folks Sh- nothing's going on as the Barista lawyers are invoking the very name of Joe Biden's son on to get meetings with the State Department to make the investigation at the Barista go away and while the other board member connected to the Secretary of state at the time John Kerry is is getting some VIP meet and greet John Kerry himself as the investigation. The push to make it go away is going on. Don't worry folks this is all about. Donald trump all about trump and the quo prayed quo. Quo Non quit non-pro on quo non deal. It's that's what it's all about again. We would call this evidence. I play that cut again of Stephen. Burri debating baiting on outnumbered. But I don't WanNa waste your time. I think there's a fundamental misunderstanding at the end of that clip about what the word evidence Actually means now as I've said before because I believe in Fair Analysis and quality investigative work evidence is not proof series of data points and facts acting as evidence can be proof of a crime. Video evidence confessions fingerprints. DNA email chains tax. They can be proof if you meet that hurdle beyond a reasonable doubt. I'm not willing to suggest that yet. But suggesting that there's no evidence evidence of massive malfeasance and the hiring of Joe Biden's kin John Kerry's associate while a corruption investigations going on the company that hired them and while they're squeezing reason the US government to make that corruption investigation away while Joe Biden's on tape demanding the prosecutor looking into it fired. Suggesting there's evidence I is is so beyond ridiculous ridiculous that I'm having a hard time believing we're having this conversation. It's gotten that bad folks and working king at the State Department make evidence not evidence. Okay can you imagine. Imagine it was some like the worked at the Secret Service. Imagine God forbid they had a lapse in a security plan or something just broke today. No I worked at the Secret Service. The report is not true but it doesn't matter. Facts are facts all right go to some good news. Finally we know that the media is GonNa spin anyway but this is a great story you know a couple weeks back. I like to give you the real news not the nonsense and I I told you a story. It's a quick story just kind of sum it up for you but I was in the gym. I don't know about two months ago and a friend of mine. Good friend Nice Guy but he came up to me and he was like. I'm not worried about at the election. Trump's GONNA win in a landslide and I went on a bit of a kind of a rant there for five minutes saying how that's absolute most dangerous counterproductive thing you can say right now. I'm not knocking. The guy he didn't mean mean. Anything buys a nice guy and I asked for permission to use it on the show and he was fine with it and I got a lot of nasty email. Dan Don't be like Debbie doubt folks. I'm not a Debbie Abi Downer listen at all I am just trying to give you reality so you're not prepared for unreality like the Clintons. Were remember member the Clinton team we're GONNA win in a landslide. Trump's two chances of winning is the Washington Post that crystal is article are approaching zero. They didn't even go to Wisconsin. What happened they lost? I I need you to be a little anxious and I said to you when I get the good news. I'll give it to you because back then. The time the polling data folks really wasn't that great and I'm GonNa put this out there again for like two thousand time on the show but I want you to hammer this your skull yes. The statewide polling data was off badly in the last election. And I'm going to be in this piece. I'm going to discuss. Why in a second? But I'm going to suggest to at the data. This time will be better. The data was bad in the last trump election in two thousand sixteen. I know Iran in that cycle. I experienced it firsthand because a lot of trump voters were first time voters I knocked on doors. I used to pay you. Get A walk list when you run for office right that. Walk list of diehard Republican voters. Why do you knock on die hard Republican voters before primary? Because they're the only ones that can vote in the Republican primary. I was passing all these houses with trump signs. Is I call my campaign manager. Why isn't this name on the list? I'm wasting time. I'm passing ten trump houses. You screwed up the list. She said to me Dan. I didn't screw the list up. Those is people do not vote. They're not on the list so I started knocking on the doors with the trump signs that weren't on the list of Republican voters. And sure enough. She was right. Hello Ma'am do you vote never in my life. Why do you trump signed? Because I'm voting. Now that's why the state polls were so wrong. Oh that's not the case now. Those people voted in the last election. They're going to be counted now now. I'm not suggesting the polls are spot on. There's always a massive trump undercount for a lot of reasons but but I don't want you to be fooled by this forgetting nor the no no don't ignore the polls be a little anxious that where you'll go out and grab ten friends vote. Gosh if there's one thing I wanNA be proven wrong on its at my anxiety is misplaced. Please prove me wrong and winning a landslide. How would be the greatest day of my life? I'll retake replay. This cut having said that though there is some good news out there piece by Breitbart in the show notes. It's definitely worth your time folks. Forget the national not a national election. Mashal poser relevant Dow. Those you should forget you need to pay attention to the swing swing state polls. It's an electoral college election. It is not a national election for president. That's a myth. It is a series of fifty state elections that determine the national selected. It's not a national. The popular vote does not matter. John Nolte great piece of ever four two thousand nineteen twenty twenty any swing state polls show why. The media really watched trumpet beached. Now I have three screen shots from this piece that worth your time. I let me tell you the good news the good news. This is this here. Screen shot number. One remember. There's always a bit of a trump undercount. He's in a lot of trouble. Joe Biden and others and Bernie Sanders trump in the swing states quote around around the swing state polling from the far left New York Times. Show explains why the media's desperate to see trump impeached among likely voters. Remember what I just said folks. Those likely voters were not there in two thousand sixteen. They never voted. But they'll be there now now. We know them among likely voters trump is losing by only two points. It's two quid. Pro Jo and Florida Arizona Wisconsin folks well within the margin of error in Pennsylvania and Michigan. Slow Joe is up by only a single point. Trump bleeds North Carolina by two. That is very good news. Here's where it gets even better because Joe Biden is this one hundred seventy see how. The show's weaving together. It's going to crush him. Yeah Bernie Sanders. Only beat trump in one of those two states Michigan by three points. They're tied in Wisconsin. Trump Beats Bernie by four in Arizona. North Carolina our line of Bhai one in Pennsylvania and two in Florida. Nice huge numbers there. He's still down to by Basil folks. I'll give you the reason why I think there's a bit of an undercount here. Bottom line is stay anxious but I don't want anybody to panic. We're still in decent shape. Here's a second. Take Jake Way. It gets even worse for some of the other front runners against trump as for the current Democratic Front Runner Elizabeth Warren trump lease by two to four and all of those states Arizona where they're died. That's not scary enough for the media. Latest polling trump winning Nevada a state. He Lost Austin Twenty. Sixteen this at least the double money is it coming. You can't go a single but we have uh people can miss and model names. Missing Monthly Guy said it reminds him of his youth. Yeah now I really liked this piece a lot not continues and he gives four reasons. Why even with those solid numbers within the margin of error in the Swing States and crushing Warren? In the swing states maybe adding Nevada. Why that may be undercount to check out these four points? I'm not gonNA read every sentence of it but it's worth your in detail. Read the piece. It's up at the show today. Reason number one. It may be an undercount here. Polling US historically underestimated trump strength by about five points. Now folks factoring in what I just told you about how. How likely voters even if that's just two or three points trumpers either winning or tied and every one of those states okay number? Two trump is doing remarkably well in the middle of impeachment hearings will almost certainly and with his acquittal in vindication if not in the house then in the Senate great point takeaway number three while by might have to have the best shot at stopping trump. Everyone knows it's only on paper. Biden's a terrible campaigner. The fact is some looted at least three foreign countries countries that we know of is a huge liability. Well said well said take away number four. Most importantly chumps tonight even out competing right now. He's not out on the trail. He's not debating he's talking about his record as accomplishments. He's it's not a contrasting himself with his far left opponent and he's not doing what he's doing. Best selling his vision is ideas is common sense love for America. We know he's a great guy. He's not doing that now. He's he's busy being president and fighting off this ridiculous impeachment which is going to end badly for the Democrats in other words folks. This may get a whole whole lot worse for the Democrats little bit of good news though. Let that puts you at ease just smile a little bit. No it's never the catastrophe the media wants you to believe it is but stay anxious. Anxious people win elections complacent people get their butts kicked. Don't forget that oh I did not want to forget this either. This huge project Veritas James. O'Keefe he's always out there breaking news on CNN otherwise he's the captain of hidden video. I want to play this little doozy for you from. ABC News About Jeffrey. I don't want you to pay particular attention to Bill Clinton Angle. You may have heard on your show a little while ago. Check this out at just broke before going to play it for you. I want you to Kinda hot wash Through your head and tomorrow I'll get a little more on check this out. I had three years of had this interview with Virginia. Roberts we would not put it on the air First of all I was told told. WHO's Jeffrey Epstein? No one knows who that is. This stupid story then. The palace found out that we had her allegations about Prince Andrew and threatened us a million different ways. We were so afraid. We wouldn't be able to interview Kate that we also washed the story. And and then Alan Dershowitz was also implicated in because of the planes. She told me everything she had pictures. She everything she was in hiding for twelve years. We convinced her they come out. We convince her to talk to us. It was unbelievable what we had claritin. We everything they had some Bill Clinton stuff to wow. That's in the bottom on that Clinton stuff too crazy. We'll get a little more of that tomorrow. I've got Some other stuff. I need to get to all right. 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We need to discuss so folks. There was a real horrible thing. I don't know any other way. Describe it then. Tragic horrible disturbing really horrendous in Mexico there were nine. US citizens killed in Mexico by savage animal cartel gang there's differences of In the story right now at Fox News coverage be in the show notes Daniel Wallace Fox News nine Americans including six children children killed as Mormon As Mormon offshot group caught in cartel crossfire. I mean what kind of savages. You have to be a really stories just hard to believe. The family was killed. Kill the Lebaron family and apparently lived in northern portion of New Mexico Sonora reason for a long time It's they're unsure yet if this was a targeting or a case of mistaken the identity but folks the details of the story are horrible. And because I try to keep the show relatively friendly friendly I'm gonNA leave out the horrible details about what these cartel did to this family as they were travelling back the United States but folks trump put out a tweet over this and you know this is one of the Times I really love this guy. I really really appreciate what he's doing. Quote this is the time for Mexico with the help of the United States to wage war on the drug cartels and wipe them off the face of the earth. We merely await a call from your great new president. You know what's good for you folks when I was in Law Enforcement Academy in Federal Enforcement Training Center in Glenn County Georgia learning how to be Federal agent one of the stories that was frequently told by people about the danger of what you're doing being a federal agent was the story of a ROIC. Da Age informer informer. I believe Marine by the name of Kiki Camerena. It's a sad story. 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Standing Down; How Did Trump Do? Iraq Aftermath; Iran Plane Crash; Impeachment Latest

Anderson Cooper 360

41:52 min | 11 months ago

Standing Down; How Did Trump Do? Iraq Aftermath; Iran Plane Crash; Impeachment Latest

"Good evening we begin tonight in four different place than we left you last night and that is a good thing plain and simple Iran signal that it's missile strike on two bases in Iraq housing. US forces was the limit of their response. The American killing General Qasem Soleimani. They apparently offered a way out and this morning president trump took it. Karan appears is to be standing down which is a good thing for all parties concerned and a very good thing for the world. No American or Iraqi. Aki lives were lost because of the precautions taken the dispersal of forces and an early warning system that worked very well. I salute the incredible skill. And Courage of America's men and women in uniform is obviously very welcome welcome development no matter where you might stand politically. How America's role in the Middle East last night? We were staring into the abyss tonight. We aren't that said. If in fact president trump trump took the offramp here the question remains was it from a highway that he himself built with his decision to kill General Simoni a highway. He didn't need to build the administration. Ministration has yet to publicly offer evidence to support his claim that the killing stopped imminent attacks on Americans. They did officially brief members of Congress today behind closed doors but from the sound of it for for some members Republican and democratic. It did not go well without commenting on content. My reaction to this briefing was sophomore sophomoric and utterly unconvincing and I believe more than ever the Congress needs to act to protect the constitutional A provision about warranties rationale for the strike on money and also the idea whether they were imminent threats I believe and there was no rationale that could could pass a graduate. School takes test I I was well. Utterly unpersuaded about any evidence about the imminence of a threat that was new or or compelling. I'm quite a few. Republicans differ with Congressman. Connolly's assessments and Lindsey Graham for one who said quote what I find this whole idea that somehow the national security team did not have a good basis to hit this guy ridiculous. Utah Republican senator. Mike Lee Though called the briefing quote. Unacceptable disgraceful disgraceful and very insulting again. Those are Senator Mike Lees words Republican senator. Mike Lee now he said at the outset he support person trump and then he said this I had hoped expected to receive more information outlining the legal factual and moral justification for the attack was left somewhat. aww unsatisfied on that front. The briefing lasted only seventy five minutes whereupon are briefers left. This however is not the biggest problem I have with the briefing. which would add was probably the worst briefing of seen at least on a military issue in the nine years I've served in the United States Senate what I found so distressing about that briefing? was that one of the messages we receive from. The briefers was do not debate. Do do not discuss the issue of the appropriateness of further Miller military intervention against Iran. And then if you do you'll be emboldening. Iran Iran now in a moment joined by another lawmaker who was in the room democratic. Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut is all comes with the house. said to vote tomorrow on a resolution that would force the president trump to end hostilities against Iran without congressional authorization which centrally now says he has not seen but is open to considering which is not to say. There's widespread bipartisan skepticism of the Intelligence Center Lee and his colleague Rand Paul or outliers within the GOP. Mostly there's bipartisan division. Unity or even rough consensus consensus on how the president is handling this in part. That's due to how polarized the country is now but keeping them honest it's not like president. Trump was trying to unify the country in his address rest today when he blamed the crisis on President Obama Iran's hostility substantially increased after the foolish Iran nuclear. The deal was signed in two thousand thirteen and they were given one hundred fifty billion dollars not to mention one point. Eight billion in dollars in cash. Then Iran went on a terrorist spree funded by the money from the deal and created hell in Yemen in Syria. Lebanon Afghanistan and Iraq. The missiles fired last night at us and our allies were paid for war with the funds made available by the last administration just as a factual matter what the president said. There is not correct. The money was actually Iranian money for US weapons frozen in the late nineteen seventies which was unfrozen under the nuclear deal which the president's own intelligence officials say Iranians were abiding by which does not mean that they can be trusted now or the gentleman who was brutal killer with American blood on his hands. It doesn't mean either that there wasn't a good reason to kill him or that future military action against Iran wouldn't be justified. It only means the president trump had a chance a chance to keep it between the lines between the lines and some really serious stuff but for some reason he chose chose to paint outside those lines. We'll talk more about in just a moment. First though signature Mocatta some late new reporting on. How last night unfolded behind the scenes? Jim Talk more about what you're learning about. How close the? US came to a counterattack. Last night Anderson talking to my sources and also sources talking to my colleague Pam Brown and also to my colleague Barbara Starr at the Pentagon. We're getting an understanding as to what was going on behind the scenes as the president was weighing whether or not to retaliate against Iran. Last night we're told by administration officials that yes us The president was considering striking back at Iran when these missiles were fired but They were waiting to see what the casualties looked like on the ground and the other the thing that was happening behind this easy Anderson is that Iran was using these back channels. They were going through. Intermediaries like the government of Switzerland and some other countries as as many as three countries from what we understand to essentially tell the. US tell the trump administration that they were essentially done for the night and based on that information coming into the White House the president decided to pull back and not launch a counterattack which obviously could have had devastating consequences. Now getting back to what you were just saying a few moments ago about the senators coming out of this briefing with administration officials like Senator Mike Lee. who was just hot coming out of that meeting? We'll tell you talk to a Republican source familiar with this this this briefing to senators who said that. The posture the attitude coming from the Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and other administration officials. who were briefing? These senators was essentially. We don't question what we're doing. Don't second guess what we're doing and obviously that doesn't go over well with senators and was the White House surprise at all about the size and scope of the Iranian on an attack. It sounds that way Anderson and one of the things that we're picking up on this evening and I think it's fascinating. Is that both the joint chiefs as Chairman Mark Milley and the Defense Secretary Mark Estra both saying publicly this evening That they agree with this assessment that Iran was actually trying to do not only destroy property at these basis. But kill you as personnel. We were hearing from our source. CNN was hearing from our sources earlier. In the day there was some administration officials official saying well perhaps the Iranians had intentionally missed so as not to draw a counterattack from the US. But from what we're hearing over at the Pentagon There were top officials including Joint Chiefs Chairman who were very much convinced that the Iranians were trying to kill Americans in this attack and so it may have been a an amazing as you stroke of luck that no American service members were killed Anderson? Jim Acosta thanks very much more now in the briefing as we mentioned Senator Chris Murphy Sat in on. He joins US now. Senator Murphy you you heard from Senator Lee earlier also called the briefing today. Quote unacceptable disgraceful very insulting. I'm wondering how you would characterize it us all the same words but it was fairly extraordinary to hear the administration tell Congress that we can't debate war and peace in fact. The founding fathers as Mike Lee Pointed out vested that power solely in the legislative branch. And you know this. Ideas regularly trotted out by the administration. It was echoed by Mitch McConnell on the floor of the Senate yesterday that if you're criticizing the administration's policy when it comes to war overseas that you're somehow doing damage to the country or to our troops. Let's just absolutely ridiculous and I'm not going to let this country slide into war again like we did in two thousand and three when the Bush administration bullied opponents of that war into silence the other problem though and frankly the bigger problem with the briefing today was that there was no evidence of an imminent And specific threat and I can't get into the details but that was fairly shocking to many of us the lack of evidence of an actual imminent Threat because without that the president doesn't have the authority to take military action without coming to Congress first the president over the past several days that they were planning a very major attack. I believe that was the phrase. He used it one time in a speech. Can you say if if if that is accurate or not. Well I think a lot of us worried when the explanations shifted over the weekend some Administration officials were using the word. Imminent others weren't some people said it was days weeks. I mean it all started to sound a little suspicious if there was a a set of facts that underlie this decision. A No Anderson. I can't get into the details but I can definitively say that there there was not evidence presented of an imminent attack and of course that's what the administration was telling us all weekend. And you know when you're not straight with the American people about that why you go to war about why you risk American lives It's devastating to the credibility of the federal government of the President And ultimately live congress as well and so. That's why many of us were very worried coming out of that briefing today can you. Can you explain Michael. He was saying that in the nine years he's he's been been on Capitol Hill. He's never seen a briefing as bad as this. What was so different about it was it? Were you able to ask questions. Did you have questions answered was is it just not specific. Can you elaborate at all. I mean I've been in a lot of very bad briefings so so I'm not sure where I would rank this one but it was it was insufficient first of all in the sense that we've waited six days to get a briefing. All One hundred senators were in that that room as far as I know and the administration stayed there for an hour and fifteen minutes and then got up and left and only about fifteen senators got ask questions and they apparently had to be somewhere else. I mean I'm I'm sorry that's not taking your responsibility seriously to report to Congress if you can only give all one hundred senators about seventy five minutes and then the lack go specific details around the threat to me. I think was a signal that the intelligence doesn't exist but the alternative isn't really helpful. Either they they have the intelligence and they're not telling us So yeah it was insufficient from a number of standpoints and I can see why both Republicans and Democrats are walking out out of that briefing angry. We mentioned the divide that we've seen among some Republicans Rand Paul and Mike Lee. I want to play something. That senator Lindsey Graham said about out senator Lee and Zen Rand Rand Paul being dissatisfied with the security briefing. So you'll hear Senator Graham. I them Senator Paul's response to him on on on Wolf Blitzer Program. I think they're overreacting quite frankly go debate. I'm going to debate you trust me. I'm Gonna I'm going to let people know that this moment in time to play this game with a war powers act. Which I think is unconstitutional is whether you mean to or not? You're empowering powering benefit I know you don't mean to but we live in the real world here so debate all you want this is a constitutional democracy but get ready for a lively debate. I I think it's sad when people have this fake sort of drape of patriotism in anybody disagrees with him not a patriot. He believes in this unitary theory of the executive that presidents. This can do whatever they want. The only way you can stop them by defunding a war. That's not what our founding fathers said. It's not what the constitution says and he insults the constitution our founding fathers and what we do stand for in this republic by making light of it an accused of lacking patriotism. I think that's a low Gutter type response. It sounds like like Lindsey Graham was kind of echoing the message that you were told in the briefing thing about. Don't debate this. Yeah that's right and it's just a ridiculous argument that gets trot out every time that the hawks the NEO Jio conservatives want to go to war they tell us that if you criticize our path to war that you're being unpatriotic I mean frankly that's insulting and it is is the fact that our troops are actually fighting for us in protecting overseas in order to protect our right to disagree with each other and to speak our minds. The reason though Anderson that we want the ability to debate this is because because many of us think that this was a very bad decision to escalate the war in a way that is already accrued to the detriment of US national security. I mean let's just be Avi. It'd be honest just about the fact that today Iran has restarted its nuclear program on their way to a potential nuclear weapon. Our troops are getting kicked out of Iraq. The counter isis mission has stopped All of that as a consequence of what happened on Thursday. And so we want the chance to debate this in the United States Congress because we believe as the People's representatives we need to write eight a policy. That has gone very wrong. It's Murphy appreciate your time. Thank you coming up next to former White House advisor on today's presidential address and why this person cannot seem to be interested in uniting the country. 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Pop Culture and more search for Lebanon Parker and subscribe today breaking news tonight. A senator who spoke the president telling us the president appeared ready to launch a counterattack. There have been even one American casualty. Also a source telling us that Iran reached out Sir at least three back channels to signal that strike they launched was the only one. The president did not speak of either in his address. Today he did talk about things that everyone can agree Riyan namely that would appear to be a march to war now seems to be on hold however he didn't leave it there. He attacked President Obama. In fact he criticized all presidents going back to nine hundred seventy nine. He also said a little to persuade anyone who didn't already support him that the confrontation with Iran something worth rallying behind which is what presidents traditionally do. It's also also -ironically what presidents have traditionally had to do less of. That's because in a crisis. Americans tend to rally behind any president in any party until now our next guest David Fromm from column on the subject today in the Atlantic he writes quote. The United States finds itself on the dangerous situation of having a president in power without authority. David Fromm also famously really helped craft President George W Bush's State of the Union address that became known as the axis of evil speech. The members being Iraq North Korea and Iran joining us as well tonight another distinguish White House senior. David axelrod would serve in the Obama Administration. David Axelrod just looking at the president's speech this morning clearly not rush. His team had all night to prepare key military officials standing there behind behind him. How do you think he handled the moment? Well look it was This was a moment where you had a nation that was on war footing and he was there to deliver good news which was he was taking. We were taking a step back both sides. We're taking a step back. It was a moment for for national solidarity and Relief And he could not refrain from taking shots at his predecessors and particularly president in an Obama. We've become accustomed. This question is why. Why does he do that I think he sees some political advantage to flaying Obama any chance once he gets in there may be some sense of envy because Obama left as a highly regarded president? And you know. Donald Trump's about every ratings are everything everything for Donald trump and I think that bothers him and he feels like he needs to tear his predecessor down but it was a missed opportunity on a day when he I should have had nothing but good news for the American people different from. I'm trying to think of instances where this president has really reached out to people who did not vote for him or may not have voted for him. And I can't really think of many in your piece in the Atlantic today. You say quote our prisoner who writes off half. The country can't expect to garner support from a crisis of his own making. I mean this. This president has insulted the State of California. He says he hates the state of New York. He says that Baltimore is a rodent and rat infested invested mess is that the Chicago is a disgrace. The Nation is described Atlanta as a disgrace the nation and just in the immediate aftermath of the targeted killing of of General Salamone. The president re tweeted one of his most fervent. Supporters said that the Democratic leadership in Congress with the equivalent of Iranian terrorists The person's jockeying for the job replacing Mike Pence's running mate in two thousand and twenty a former. UN Ambassador Nikki. Haley said that Democrats mourn the death of Sulamani which no Democrat has done and when challenged on that said well they regretted it and in fact the two people have most conspicuously right at it are members of the President's Party. Yeah Rand Paul and President Trump's favourite TV host Tucker Carlson so the president. I never even occurred to him that this is part of his job. He thinks thinks his job is to put on Makeup Racist Chin. Go on TV and say things and then the people should applaud. And if they don't it's their fault and not his fault we mentioned you know Senator Mike Lee Today saying that the closed door Senate briefing was on American completely unacceptable given administration suggested Congress shouldn't have a role in improving on military action and essentially shouldn't debate this surprise to see him and senator rand. Paul sneak out Lindsey Graham Dismiss Estimate Libertarians and essentially outliers the administration's I'm somewhat sorry. David David Archer on go ahead. And then we'll get David. No no look I think if you were going to If you were going to identify two members of the Republican caucus who are likely to descent It would be them but They they look. They raised important Point which is that There are constitutional shared powers. Here the Congress does have responsibilities abilities and they ought to be treated With respect and and you know you talk about building solidarity in the country country but it's also important to build solidarity for governing purposes and bringing in the other branch both Democrats and Republicans and sharing the burden written of these decisions. is important part of that and it's a huge mistake to treat the congress. They're trading the Congress here then from on on that point it is remarkable to think having experienced what we all experienced with in the run-up to the Iraq war in terms of the the the use of intelligence and just the lies that subsequently had been revealed about what the public has been told about the war in Afghanistan for quite right sometime which revealed on the New York Times recently. An extraordinary history of lies just as it was in the Vietnam War. The fact that Lindsey Graham is arguing you know that old argument of just even discussing this is giving comfort to the enemy. I mean that's the that's the line that's been used time and time again. For decades. In general Sulejmani is blood so murderer no one regrets his death and his death was overdue. And there's no way he was going to die peacefully and he shouldn't have died peacefully that said the the administration's account you're GonNa have to know anything about the intelligence. It's obviously not true. It's one of two. Things are true if the they are claiming. This is the person at the top of the Iranian chain of command and also there was an imminent attack if the attack is imminent killing. The guy at the top of the chain of command doesn't stop it. If the United States have been able to kill Osama bin Laden two days before nine eleven that wouldn't have stopped nine eleven the operation was underway. If killing the guy at the top of chain of chain. Okay can stop the operation. The operation by definition not imminent. It's still in the planning grace so so their explanation can't be true. That doesn't mean the decision was wrong wrong but given if you believe that the in the decision you should give a truthful explanation for it including the man owed the United States a blood debt that would be an answer that many Americans aircraft except but what they're saying now you can't accept it because it's obviously not true. David from David axelrod appreciate it. Thank you up next. Live report from Iraq where there was actually in Baghdad. Today the latest on that in a moment hi everyone. I'm poppy harlow were out with a new boss. Offs Files Episode Fashion Designer Eileen Fisher. She sees her brand as a platform and her employees encouraging her to stand up on social issues including climate chain. She's a leading voice on environmental sustainability in the fashion industry. Also her take on profit sharing she owns sixty percent of her company company and her employees owned the rest plus her advice for all of us as parents out there what she wishes she done differently as a mother and how Eileen Fisher uses meditation the Guide her work and life here at all on boss. Final subscribe today hours. After president trump told the nation of Iran appears to be standing down on quote the Iraqi military says two rockets landed in the Green Green Zone in Baghdad which houses the. US Embassy no casualties reported the team in Baghdad says her sirens from inside the Green Zone as well as two explosions. We should note that there have been numerous rocket attacks in the area in recent months even before the Gilliam Qassem Soleimani and it's not exactly clear who fired. The rockets seen as clerks award is in Erbil the northern thirty Kurdish region of Iraq. Near where some of last night's missile struck so clerks talk about the situation there tonight. Well Anderson. It's very quiet here tonight but I have to say it was extremely Erie to be flying into Erbil at night The airport was essentially deserted sorted. Ours was one of the only flights that was not canceled because one of the missiles that fell in Erbil actually landed within the perimeter of the airport report. This is obviously extremely important place strategically for the US. It is the heart the fight against Isis. A lot of special forces operatives working in in and around this area that fight is now frozen but we did notice in our hotel Roughly a hundred is not more. US military contractors they had essentially been evacuated from places like Baghdad also from the ballade airbase amid fears of continuing attacks. The assumption was is that our bill was the safe place to send people but Iran sending a powerful message last night that no place is essentially beyond the reach or completely secure cure From the reach of their missiles Anderson you read this as being kind of frozen Obviously things can can unfortunately thaw out quite quickly really there are still I mean I. It's a you can't understate the tensions between the United States and Iran that still exist and absolutely the tensions are there and I think you're gonNA continue to see them exploited particularly through the situation here in Iraq. This is an easy move for Iran going forward to try to play on the divisions between Iraqis and the US. You mentioned before that we've seen a lot of rockets go into the Green Zone and we have but given the events that have transpired in the last twenty four hours. It's hard not to see this. Through the prism of essentially chilly passions running high with supporters of the various Shiite militias that are loyal to Iran. They're looking for revenge at the feel anger. They feel resentment. They WANNA I want to see us. Forces leave and that is what Iran has ultimately said. It's real goal here. Is this these missiles last night. Were essentially a strategic gesture to show. Oh strength to save face. But they're real goal. According to their own rhetoric is to try to push. US forces out of this region entirely that that is not going to be a short term perspective. Anderson that could take years and believe me they are willing to play the Long Day gang here of course award. Thank you be careful for more on the standoff with Iran the president's used for national security related intelligence when bring Leon Panetta mispronounce served as director and defense secretary under President Obama. Panetta first of all your reaction action to the administration to overall handling so far of the Iranian missile strike and the pushback from some members of Congress good Anderson. I think it's very difficult to try to understand. What is the overall strategy of this administration ministration in the Middle East? It's very confused. The president has talked on both sides of the fence. Talked about withdrawing from the Middle East talked about forever wars talked about the need to let those countries deal with their own problems and at the same time. We're now building up our forces in the Middle East and we are virtually on continue to be on the brink of war in that area. I I I just think that the handling of this situation has been very confusing the justification for why they went after Sola mining my money has it's been mixed. There have been different reasons presented. There's no clear evidence of an imminent threat that was involved here and I think all of that raises a lot of questions about just exactly how we are going to proceed with regards to this crisis in the Middle East. I'm just not clear on. What the administration's policy is to to Iran? I mean there's clearly there were some in the administration Bolton and perhaps on Peyot who wanted and may still want regime change obviously. The president has talked about getting troops out of Syria out of Iraq. Doc Is it clear to you that there is a policy. I think I think if there's any history regarding the wars in the twenty first century is that they've come about because of miscalculation so poor judgment of not understanding the intelligence and somehow assuming that power alone could Resolve these issues. That's the history of the wars we've been in and we're in the process of repeating all of those same mistakes now. I think I think the President Yup tried essentially to bully Iran into into negotiations with the United States and Iran. To some extent is trying to bully this president to get out of the Middle East both have failed and yet I don't see much changing although we had had a pause last night and thank God for that in terms of whether or not we were going to go to war. I don't see anything changing right now. And the relationship relationship between the United States and Iran and that spells trouble for the future. How concerning is it that the administration is essentially telling the members of the Senate telling a room full of all? The senators. Don't discuss this. Don't debate this because it's it's emboldening an enemy. I in my experience. That's unheard of if you're going to go and brief the Senate With regards to a national security issue your job is to present the truth to to that group of senators and let them know exactly what has happened and the justification for any action that took place to then go there and lecture a group of senators about what they should or should not say or or what they should or should not do is asking for trouble and you heard that trouble today. with the senators who came out and reacted to that briefing. The purpose of those briefings is to build support with with the Senate and with the Congress. You're in the process of of being on the brink of some kind of conflict in the Middle East. You need the support of the Congress if the United States is going to take any steps in that part of the world and not to bring the Senate onto your side but instead criticized them for opening their mouth I think was just a serious mistake in terms of the ability of this administration to try and get their support. David Fromm on earlier. You're who wrote a piece. In the Atlantic. Essentially one of his point was how president trump basically is only speaking to half the country's only speaking of the people who I voted for him who he believes will will vote for him again and that was just very evident today in this moment of potential potential national unity and national kind of relief. He chose it to kind of lay it on attack President Obama. And you you know presidents going back to seventy nine I this president and one of the things that's concerned me from the beginning of this administration was not only rejecting the values of the presidency. And how you behave but failing failing to try and unify the country behind the president's policy. He's almost deliberately. Try to split this country. Apart and continues I used to do that. Continues to only speak to his supporters instead of trying to reach out and bring all of the American people into supporting what the administration is doing. He is he's wrapped up in a political campaign almost continuing political political campaign and in that mindset. All he cares about is whether or not his supporters continue to support him and then he continues to appeal to them rather than being big in that office and reaching out to all of the American people. I think that's a serious mistake secure and I appreciate your time. Thank you very much. Thank you next. A deadly ministry. Was it an accident or perhaps something worse that led to the plane crash in Tehran. Killed One hundred hundred. Seventy six people only hours after the Iranian missile attack growing concern over the cause of that Ukrainian airliner crashed crashing Tehran. Only a few hours after running missiles crashed into American positions inside Iraq authorities. Say All one hundred and seventy six people aboard the Boeing seven thirty-seven were killed. Well we don't know is whether it was an accident or something more sinister with this now Mary Schiavo CNN aviation analyst and former Inspector General for the Transportation Department. She's she's now an attorney for victims families and transportation accidents including those involving Boeing Mary. Based on what you've seen so far. What stands out to you? Are there clues suggests what may have happened. Well I think this one thing that stands out me. Most of all was a change in the position at first There was a comment. That could be an engine engine failure etc and then people change their minds and I think that probably suggests that what they look. That was the acreage stated. The data that is transmitted and by the aircraft itself and it had a normal takeoff climb out it had a good altitude gain had good ground speed and then all of a sudden went completely silence and no more data transmission. Obviously that suggests something very catastrophic in probably not an engine. Failure appears as if there wasn't a mayday call that's right highly significant as well because with an engine failure they are very established and trained for procedures The pilots have fire bottles roles which they will Set off to put out to extinguish a fire in the engine. They'll call Air Traffic Control and a request emergency clearance the routes will be cleared appeared for them. And they'll head right back to the airport. No mayday call suggest whatever happened happened instantaneously and catastrophically. It said to be a think difficult. The airport to fly in and out of requires training apparently from what I've read that these pilots were experienced with. I see no indication that the pilots had made errors flying into and out of the airport and if they had a problem for example gaining altitude we would have seen that on the flight radar radar data and it doesn't look like that at all. It got a fine climb altitude ground speed at it. Looks like a completely normal. Take off the fact that there was military activity in Iran and the missile tax into Iraq. It's obviously either coincidence or it. Did you know there are some some linkage there in some way well and statistically speaking one airplane a literate explodes in the sky why when you have an inflight breakup especially with the fire. Statistically it has usually been a missile a bomb or an explosion but there are a few notable exceptions. Twa Eight hundred hundred back in one thousand nine hundred. Ninety six was center fuel tank explosion and Chalk's Ocean Airways was a wing coming off and there is an air win this directive on on this plane for the wing attachment so there are notable exceptions for mechanical failures. But usually it has been explosion bomb missile when a plane falls from the sky. And you know always. We're talking about the black boxes you're on government said that they will not turn over the black boxes which apparently have been located and won't work with either the government or with the manufacturer which I believe uh-huh blowing again you can read that with as there's an various reasons for that or distrust and other political reasons or unfamiliarity with how an Annex Thirteen International Civil Aviation Organization investigation really works and that what is you deliver the blackbox securely and safely to a black box lab that is capable of downloading and really identifying and working with the data They don't routinely just give him back to the manufacturers they get them to the lab now the best labs are of course in. US Canada France Britain. Australia and others So I if I was certainly leading the investigation I would want to call in one of these blackbox lab experts if I wasn't going to use the NTSB Eh. But according to the annex thirteen Kale guidelines the country of manufacturer of the aircraft is part of the investigation. So that would be a regular You know certainly they could call in Canada. They have a great investigation bureau and there were so many Canadians on board. That would make sense. That would marry appreciate it. More more to learn. Learn obviously coming up on house speaker. Nancy Pelosi is still holding onto the two articles of impeachment passed in mid December ahead. The state of play tonight on their transition to the Senate chicken with Christy. What he's working on for Cuomo prompting? Chris how're you doing. We're taking from simple the complicated tonight. We have lawmakers on both all sides who are very upset on about these briefings today. Why simple if it's such a simple case? Why hasn't it been made? Why isn't the president giving us a stitch which of proof of why this was necessary because if we don't learn from the process the process will be repeated and this kind of brinkmanship is no way to do? Diplomacy is no way to keep the country country safe. So we're going to go through that we're going to have experts from the region. Say why they believe. This is an over and we're going to look at that plane crash. What's worth speculating on? What is not all right? Six minutes from now of course look forward to it with showdown with Iran now on hold or maybe at least a pause tension on Capitol Hill turn into impeachment and the question will house speaker. Nancy Pelosi send the articles rickles impeachment to the Senate as early as tomorrow look at that ahead even Senate Democrats have here ready for House Speaker financy policy to release. The articles of impeachment voted on last year with her fight against Senate Republican leader. Mitch McConnell over trial rules at an impasse. Several Democratic senators today told CNN. It's time to begin the trial hopefully next week. According to Senator Chris Murphy California Senator Dianne Feinstein told politico quote. The longer goes on the less urgent become so serious and sergent. Send them over. If it isn't don't send it over Phil Mattingly joins us now from Capitol Hill so Now that the speaker is starting to face criticism from inside our own party. What are your your sources telling you about her next steps Yeah Anderson? It's remarkable in a building the capital where just about everything leaks out sometimes within minutes from closed door meetings and briefings that that no one really knows what the speaker plans to do even her closest advisors or closest leadership members. Don't have an explanation or an answer as to win the articles. We'll head over but you hit on a key point here Senate. Democrats are running out of patience. I'm told Multiple Democratic senators have told Democratic leader Chuck Schumer to communicate to the speaker that the time is now now to transmit the articles the idea of holding them for for a period of time has served its purpose. Obviously more stories have leaked out. John Bolton is willing to testify if subpoenaed that has has been effective to a degree ineffective setting a message about what Senate majority leader. Mitch McConnell is trying to do but one Democratic senator told me today Anderson we've reached the point of diminishing returns and this needs to come over now. The expectation is still that they will likely come over this week but no one knows for sure tomorrow. The House votes on Iran war powers resolution is that expected expected to play into this at all. I mean how. How is that expected to play out and could impact the speaker's decision on the Anderson one of the most interesting elements of this entire fire? Week is how much really members in both parties in both chambers have tried as best they can to separate these two issues they understand the gravity of both of them they understand the necessity city of dealing with both of them. But they're trying to keep them separate the war powers resolution tomorrow which would halt Iran would halt the US from hostilities towards Iran. Unless less the came back to Congress will pass it will pass overwhelmingly but at this point keeping it separate from impeachment Anderson Phil Mattingly. Thanks very much. Appreciate News continues. One hundred over Chris for Cuomo prime-time Chris.

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Gogo music monologue from two weeks ago because candace was going to do it for me I. Know I've felt like that was for you. Yes. So this was this. Is All remixed to go go music, but it's also the music that they use for the interstitial on this show. So it's like she kinda just did a real hassle, Potomac remix version of it and Apparently Chris is really good at you know the selling songs like came out with the song. So he just started sending it to everybody and I was like, wow, that's amazing. It would be nice if he could remember. Napkins at a barbecue. Yeah. But. You know good for you and though they got a famous producer. Song and pretty much what you think it is now. Yeah. there. Yes basically what it is. candace goes you know it just made sense to Remix my love song to my husband like no did it really make sense that it really like were you were you think yourself? Oh, God out of butter I should probably remind my love song to my husband. was, where was the logic that led you to that decision? Yeah, and she's like literally we were in his office and I was blown away by Nass records and biggie records just sitting right there on his wall. Now imagine how they're gonNa feel when they come and see your record. No. No are. B. But he has like I died for this. So can't get such a dichotomy from the shenanigans at the lake. House from how Dichotomy from the. Okay Okay, she's. Dot Com me from some man again. Such a diabolical dichotomy shenanigans. So candidates the she's officially done with MONUC ever since he got mad about that firepit she's like you know what I'm done. I had to say in this awful house with terrible colors on the walls and I am done and you know what? Monique plastic she's plastic, which is a bold accusation on a real housewives showed a call someone plastic. Yeah. And then. Don't bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump Tom Maher Ashley and Michael are going to dinner. Music in this entire episode and it cracks me up where they use it. They shown Audi driving up exactly here comes a luxury car patrol heard. Can we get this out of door creaking open? Very believe for this I know and that we hear gazelles voice like it's supposed to be inside ashes head saying last night Michael was at the Strip club. Boyfriend a why. So we go in and Michael is typical Michael when he's caught cheating, which is like every five minutes on this, it's not like this is not our first time at the Michael Fuck Somebody Rodeo. So every time he's got cheating he looks like a dog that's about to be put down has just those really old dog watery eyes yes. and He puts himself into a blazer and like all right let's go to a casual restaurant when my blazel will make me look more apologetic than usual rights. So they they sit down at their high top as usual they always go to a high top. I feel like wasn't a high top in my mind is high atop they have like. They have like high top energy I feel like they will always go for high top, which is funny because if I have a choice I'm never really gonNA go for a high top I finally high top people. arrested. Over the top, we've done it before. Yeah we're the you know it's like especially don't give me high top with a stool that has nothing for my feet if my Peter just. Out of high top I mean, I might as well just be eating at that thing that the real housewives of Atlanta that crane that looked at the Acropolis. Okay. I don't want that. Your mother high personally I. Find it very offensive when I'm sat at a high top excuse me was so. Far No, I, don't WanNa just sit at the bar about that. That was so British of you Ronnie when you said, I find it. Very I. Find it very offensive when I'm sat at a high atop that is so British. I'm sat right up. On well, that's how we speak and restaurants. So The waiter comes over and he's like Oh my God down or whatever Michael. Council even eat right now I don't know how you can. How can you even eight you're the one in trouble why the function she be able to eat yeah. She should be eating her like feelings right now. Okay. That's what she deserves. Okay. So and she says what I always say when someone's Ronnie, how can you eat again, I'm breastfeeding. Back Off So she tells us last night, she got texts from unique and Robin about this article that was basically that all the pictures of Michael etc and she's like well, I saw the the picture and I said I know those underwear. So I called my husband and I said get your ass home right now he through the door and he sits on the couch and he tells me what happened and I was very very, very upset but I didn't want to be yelling with the baby in the House and cameras out of the House. So that's over here at dinner. Yeah. I'm gonNA, just expose the entire world join drama and they deliver their Brussels sprouts Caesar Salad. This is the music to like here's your Brussels sprouts and Caesar Salad. Is So scary about. Delivered by nurse Ratchet herself. Wow. That's quite a show. So Ashley there's a long silence while Michael just you know looks around. Banning is, is they get more watery. Can we get more particles in the air he to me like something on fire So every time he does something wrong. The air fills with pollen superpower. So ask like well I mean this was a good idea to come to this applebee's I'm controlling my emotions much better here and I'm really glad that you're telling me in a very public setting because I have to tell you right now I don't know if this relationship will ever be the same like I didn't know we would ever be having this conversation. Yes you did Ashley 'cause you married fucking. Michael. How many reunions do you need to have where this on your face like I never thought my husband of all people would be like this. Okay. So they're season one, two, three, four, and five of the show. Okay. Go, check those out and then report back. Yeah, he's like all I never thought we'd be having this conversation either. Well, I never thought my husband would be doing this. I thought we were on the same page on story I didn't tell you. You know I'll just didn't know Randall those women are coming grabbed ram them Oh yes. The the big villains, all the other women I'm not saying that they're very nice but you're the one who did wrong here. Okay. Yeah. That's not the time to be throwing stones and there's a lot of and there's a lot of like not so subtle. Women shamming in this entire like in this scene and going forward you'll notice that like like Michael Paints himself to be this innocent victim he gets into this web. Okay and then Ashi picks it up as well as really pisses me off because it's like it's like an age old trope women women can only do the only thing that women can do is lay men into their web and seduce them and then destroy their lives. That's what women do. It's like. This was definitely like a Russian spy story. Once, we get the story. So she tells the story she's like well, he went to the Strip club with his friends and then he met this girl and him and his France, we're GONNA. Go to the MGM and they told the girls and then the girl showed up like. Spies showed up, and then one of the girl says while you want to go to the hotel room. So they did and then they kissed in the cow but then he fell asleep and then when he woke up the girl was next to him like Oh. So she knew his hotel room number and had the key. Okay. So innocent, he's just so poor innocent lamb his now admittedly this whoever whoever did Seduce Michael? Was for sure shady as because this woman did take footage of him entering the hotel and took that picture. So she was like, Oh, I'm documenting this. I think that actually she's just like a huge Potomac superfan and his life we are putting the bad once and for all like I'm literally putting him to bed and we're GONNA show Ashley that G it's Okay I am doing this. I'm taking one for the team. I'm seducing him that way finally Ashen will leave his ass that's the only way I can I can do this but still talk about like, oh, he was so drunk that he fell asleep Mike Oh like That's not great. What is he doing getting? So drunk going home with strangers and kissing in the car, right? Like you have a child okay who may not literally be at home but as off at some tacky house instead, but you do have a child. So why are you acting this way like that alone that alone is terrible and also refused to come on this couples trip or whatever not made her take the baby and got a hotel room I? mean. Yeah Bet doesn't say guilt and then when I woke up, she was lying in the bed next to me. It was like well, then how did you get? Into your underwear right like what about how did that happen? Because a lot of people in their pass out they just pass out in their clothes and that's how this day. Okay. So like there's a lot of stuff that's not adding up to me. And that yeah, I mean when you're cheating on your when you're cheating on your spouse, you need to be like you're into to watch the ellen show. Okay. You need to be like everybody hand over your phone's going in this box until the end. Yeah. You know any Le Let me patch you up and down make sure there's no recording devices exactly shows Ellen because I just saw that Allen. Shut up to to apologize at her show or whatever I'm sure. Apology was pretty much like Michael's on Hainault. orangey. Sitting in obeyed, taking pictures of me abusing his if. All I had no idea that all that everyone crawling every day on my staff was crying because being mistreated I thought they were so impressed with this show that they thought. Well, I'm emotionally moved by Ellen and Aucoin nece on what can solve all of this let's damps. So yes. Oh so basically. He he he woke up and she was lying next to him and then Oh and then Michael gets up he got up to check the time and then that's when she's not the photo and sent it to a blog and as she says, it is that's the big cry like, ooh, look at this awful person who took a picture of him. While, he was checking his phone and send it to a block I'm like that's not the should not be stress of your story is the stress is that he made out with her drunk and went back hotel. And at that point you know like you should like yeah. Shady it's tacky what this woman did. But like yeah, this woman, this woman is a piece of shit too. Okay. Give me wrong but still she's not in your marriage but like He's been in this situation. So many times it's like, where's your? Where's your head at Sir? Where's your? Terrible you know it's really hard to respect a terrible criminal and that's why it's hard for me to watch Fargo that because they're just all terrible criminals laws mark criminal. I, like a bumbling criminal I. Actually I like I like it. So here's the thing I like bumbling criminal. stresses me out for sure I get stressed out by bundling criminal but I do enjoy a bumbling criminal but with Michael he's just like a sloppy criminal. He's not even bumbling you just because usually there's a smart criminal and bumbling one the bumbling one ruins it for the smart one. But here it's just Michael and like yeah, he's just bumbled and bumbled and he's just a sloppy. Sloppy criminal floppy criminal. So he's like well, are wasn't considerate but and here we go. We knew we were going to hear this right. You called this last week we lost intimacy and I was craving some of that Oh really. Craving intimacy from your wife. So you you got together with a stripper, her fault. It's her fault that she had a baby and for Upper Ns. That's Wanted a baby. So yes, all her fox. So she's like, why did you say you were claiming that in fact? Well, obviously I was wrong and says like, okay, like let's just add something new to this because obviously this has been going on for years. So let's just clear the air obviously you and I are not a traditional couple and the music we get we at the Brussels sprouts music. Obviously. We're not traditionally couple I mean, if there was a girl who liked me and I like the girl in, we would do whatever together. Operated in the past meaning like you know they had threesomes with you know with another girl because that's okay. But apparently, it's not okay to have it with two guys. Apparently that's not okay. Yeah and so there's a long quiet pause while he waters up and he's like he always done it with you and she's like, yeah, and what if I told you I don't WanNa do that ever ever again? Well I suppose we would have to sit down with the pie chart and along stick that I could pose to. Point to a blackboard with, and we could go over the pros and cons of no. I like to call that reviewing documents. Yeah. This. This guy has such balls. We'd have to discuss that. She's no, I'm telling you right now he goes the funds Sofa. which is like how dare you say that? The funds over. So like Okay God forbid, she's pregnant God forbid she like carried your genes into this world God, forbid she the ripped up her whole like you know hindquarters over this whole thing and now like the funds over because she decided that she wants a little bit more attention from romance that have him going you know out with you know. Betty go betty go. Blogger. Like I'll. He's so disgusting. He really is growth. Comes on right now. So he's mad right and she's like well, I'm not going to stay in this. You know a week could beasely exit this right now and he's like the much stuck. There's a three month old in this now. So I'm not just saying for the baby. and. If I find out anything else, it will be catastrophic and he's like all right. But this can we cut this our need a beer all need a beer and the producer comes up and he's like. For sure I was like wow. I thought it was the waiter. I was like great service in this place they were ready for that beer and it's like actually just like. Fake you know James Corden comes over and. By the way, can I just say real quickly before we get into this part that when he when when she's like if if like. Now's the chance to peacefully exit this. If that's what you want, and he says there's too much steak. There's a three month old baby how `bout you say no because I love you not like Oh there's too much at stake. Okay. She's not like. She's not a like a powerpoint demonstrate demonstration you've been working on for five days and you don't want to trash it. Okay, make. Please tell your wife that you love her and that's why you want to say. He's so romantic. So James Gordon comes up and Michael's like dietschy which is taping in our relationship. So it's then it's a rab and ashes like well, fuck this. I'm GONNA actually eat on camera. Come you. Just. told, US something that's affected our relationship forever. Okay. We've been truthful. Okay. I've been virtual that I want to be a we've been accused of also shit and we've been truthful. Okay. So often near what else do you want me to do? Ya. I wish I had queued the news footage of when they went on that morning. So and were so truthful he's like what cha-ching you behind would never in my life that was completely untruthful. Will just know how to take a joke. and. So the producers like while I do appreciate you guys being honest and real about this Kyle Richards just sent a flower bouquet the spells out open and honest you can pick that up on the way out and open and honest good job or I just didn't think there's anything left in May. There's just nothing left in me except an insatiable to grab your ass right now close your eyes and pretend this is the latest up. Okay. If, only I had an ASS to hold. Sorry sorry. You say. It's a God dame lie sorry producer all I. Didn't Grab Your Ass I. Thought you were one of those buttons that says, tell us how we did and I'll just give them a little temper. So he's like well, we'll taking off microphones are done with this and she's like I never wanted to talk about our business and what goes on in our personal life on camera, which is why brought you to this restaurant with cameras in it the producer's like, okay. Okay fine. He's like drawing. What was what was this little breaking? The fourth wall moments supposed to demonstrate was this like Michael Sang? He's not talk about it anymore. So for wondering why he doesn't talk about it, it's because he said it right here I got an totally understand this moment. I think they're just loving showing the people that production does matter now. Off the cameras it's like a new thing on Bravo it's happening on every. So right now and I'm loving it. Yeah. It's great. I just didn't really like it just didn't make sense to me on other shows made sense it was like, oh, like someone's trying to control the narrative but here he's like are all right the funds over on going to stay in the marriage because I like the pancakes make him in the morning and I won't have sex with other people and tell you about it and that's it. All right. Can we cut that offset everything on to say? So let's go over to the NF Oh. Yeah. Lazy moms off is yeah. So Monique is She you know what? She needed some office that we should get some work done because there just wasn't enough room in that compound for a Little Home Office? was there? No, there wasn't. So she has now spent more Christmas money and you know I hate to font that trope about the wife spending the husband's money but I think it mony gets cases. This is what it is and She's got some office space and she's talking about how like you know the not for Lazy Mom's website has been doing great. But now she wanted to get the local in person not for Lizzie MOMS thing built up Aka she wants to start her MLM. She's like let's get this MLM army going. Yeah, and so she's got all these employees and stuff and she's very, you know business business business. She's like all right where the ticket sales and leaf is like Well, right now we've got. Twenty out of three hundred. One of the ladies is like well, we can do giveaways, ticket giveaways and like I already gave so much. Okay. We're at eighty thousand and overhead between salaries. What is she doing? Okay Monique's an idiot I'm sorry. Okay. Like someone gets a Challah here to run this company because this is not how it's done. Monique is one of those people that has no idea how to run a business but she sees it around and then she's like I'm just GonNa copy what I think. I'm supposed to do some spent all this money on the things that it looks like I'm supposed to do business I get an office I'm Gonna I'm GonNa hire this person this person this person but like all you have is a flimsy concept that I'm not really sure has even been proven to work. You know like a podcast, get yourself a snowball microphone on Amazon okay. Yeah, what the hell are you talking about get snowball it's like forty dollars and then pay for skype recorder the. US Garage Band like was I got the sense that the eighty thousand dollars for the entire business. But then I was like, did she spent eighty thousand dollars on this live podcast? What is she doing? Why is she spending eighty thousand dollars she like building a stadium I just don't understand how Chris like stomp his foot and then use that like to put three hundred people in you know like there's just it's ridiculous. Yeah, and she says she was Having a she had a good momentum going with their business but then she was full blown pregnant and she had to take off and she's like. Well, I'm going to meet with my accountant next week and give me a full-blown rundown of what I've spent wits I. Get that rich people have that but snowball. Okay. Snowball host Monster Account, and we re drag drop like your picture lately literally do not need to spend eighty thousand dollars to sell like. The? We don't even know what she really sells. Okay. That's I. think that's her essential oils person and I think. Because I haven't done any research. Don't sue me because I don't know if what I'm saying even right but I think that she just sells. Kind of like generic essentially some brand of essential oils. It's not like she makes the essential oils she just gets them from some Amer, something. The problem is he has no focus I'm on her site right now. So I like. Like her lack of focus is actually her brand. This is what it says not for Lazy MOMS. We wanted all we do it all. So she wants to do everything she wants to everything. So giveaway there's a mom things three months of tuition box and then lifestyle tips. Hey, there's a new book Potty Training Mommy and Daddy at unnatural living how to make homemade baby food. So what is this? What is she doing? Is it about baby food is about essential oils about potty training? It's like she decided decided she wants to do. Just like explode into it like maybe she's trying to be like goop or something, but she hasn't actually she's poop. poop. Because Mommy Daddy potty training. Also, I don't need something called Potty Training Mommy Batty. You know what I mean like I have I shouldn't have to deal with that until I'm way older and then they have a thing down here mainly leading mommy. With babies just all over the place and they're shop. Okay. Some on their shop, and so they have a bundle the like a tote bag a Mug, and you can get like a tank top. at most of it is just like. Merchandise that says not for Lazy Moms, which is like. As are so are you like a Superfan of the website? So you're like I need to get the Mug that says not lazy MOMS I get doesn't offer like the only product is the as the book. Okay and so like she's all the money, the oils on here see how something called Michaela might were is it dominion disappeared? She has pads, Mula Eva essentials, but it's coming soon how is she gonNA? How is she going to re like recoup all this money when the only thing she sells on her website are like tank tops with her logos like she's not offering any services beyond a potty training? which I imagine is like faces very stiff competition. From. You. Know. Amazon. got a little don't understand this. I don't know, but it's a lot of money. Okay. The cost a lot of money to do this this much nothing. So a sees like well, you know Christmas about the money I mean look if I'm not expecting to make money but if I can just break even I'll be fine with that and this podcast Karen is going to be there and raise going to make an appearance because I need his perspective I mean they've been married hundred years and when you get intimate even happens and then with Kansas and Chris I mean you've been married a year and haven't even had honeymoon with that God, you're an asshole that is yes. They are barely affording the butter knives that are being taken out of our hands. Okay. Like they're so beyond living beyond their means like let them not have their their hunting. Let them have that. Okay. They're barely saying afloat. I'm on Mike Monique and I've been on her side much this whole season but she don't invite people on your show and then be like, oh, how do you even have sex or so old and then you to do you know about honeymoons? And then get mad later on when she wants back out. Yeah, you know. Like. Now. So For Monique for sure it's it's definitely not I. Mean I don't know it's just. On little everyone cares about the Challah. That's all anyone cares about the Challah Owen, the results from our quiz or poll out from instagram where we asked people what they cared more about to Challah making a nest or not leaving real housewives and to Challah one by nearly six thousand votes so Very oh so then we go over to Giselle and some fashioned. She's wearing. Leather like one of those leather Suede cert- swith poof sleaze and then got glasses like she's going. She looks like she's about to go take ap chem again like she was about to like. Mix them solutions or do some titrate like what was going on with those glasses she was like I'm here to make bulk Ainhoa of baking so. Seriously, I'm here to find out about density Ya, our weld something or some said so she comes in or like those car commercials or they're like, keep it in America with Ford and then everybody's working. Yes she is a union worker who is standing for America. So Giselle is She's like looking around this furniture shop and everything that she likes is awful right? Like should be as with all eighty. Four o'clock I love this ring light. Let's from Paris is. A Re. Look at the sides o'clock, but it's also mirror and it's huge I love this I have great decor style with it. Have you ever thought about putting Fuchsia with white with silver and doing it everywhere in everyone's faces guess saw Zelazowa Wola. Described her style I was cracking up. She's like my style is perfect I like white and clean and modern. Really. I haven't really seen that in your house but okay, I'll go on this. So she's she's getting ready to break ground on the West. Wing. Yeah, and so she's furniture shopping and stuff. So Robin comes along and. She's You know. What issues on your literary award? So She's like grassy. I'm literally winner Rah sometimes my kids might eat cheetos for dinner but I have them that hard work pays off. So they talk about Robin looking for a new house and they look at some of the furniture and then they just once these huge attack. Hell Hell. candlestick. Twenty five hundred dollars. Yes the they. They. were, watching dot dom goes those look like super bowl trophies. She's like, yes, this is for new. England DOPP. Patriot Saad TB twelve. I it is refreshing on a housewife show to see somebody saying two, thousand, five, hundred dollars fuck you I'm nothing ninety, five, hundred dollars. Yeah Oh. This is like a random offshoot, but we should mention that Bravo just announced that there's going to be a show with Kate chastain Hannah perner Giselle Bryant and Porsche Williams it's going to be on after watch live and I'm not doing this to be like a promo but I'm like Finally this sounds like a great idea. These are four women I would love to hear their perspectives on whatever it is. So I just have to say since we do we know Kate and Hannah they both come to crap and giving in fact to little. KAZAA congratulations. Yeah. Yeah. That's going to be great. Yeah, I'm really I'm not. So robins like let's see Robin basically tells her what happened over the firepit. just sells like well, you know I'm sorry but telling Monica or telling Ashley about her cheating husband is a little more important than roasting marshmallows. Exactly. So then they started talking about all this Michael Gossip and robins like. I was talking with cherise and I was like find the article for you and I found the article and then I texted and then I looked and I texted it to Ashley instead by accident, which is so robin and they just both crackup. Love I actually have to say like we we sort of like should on Robin because she does the same it's like she does nothing going on in her life but I do think that her relationship which is al is like really endearing. Just watching the. Pure evil mode they're fine. Go a little too far from me but Yeah Right. This is the part. I like about. Better Joe just ragging on everybody in cracking up yeah. Just cracking up at themselves. Robin. Oh. Because then I. said what do you want us to do? ooh. She's like. Well, look at you fixing a bad situation. and. She's like you know I do feel bad for Ashley and this is where she says if I got forty DMZ up one, hundred and forty. And she's like well good for us for talking to her because she would have been totally blindsided. You're a really good person here is such a good person. You're. You're a regular here does yeah, exactly So then just the announces that she's she's GonNa have something out of winery because she wants to be able to celebrate herself and her award. So she's like you know when you go to a winery, are you going to act like a fool I mean That would never happen I'm like Okay. Watch all the other real housewives and specifically watch the real housewives of DC where they went winery and it got so bad that there were helicopters overhead senator sent by the owners mother-in-law who mother true remember that and the member the wigner member on DC they the grapes were like from the supermarket. Yes there were stopping supermarket grapes. Anri, but also she's like, no one would act like a fool and a winery It's a barn during taking them to. Mean everyone acts like a damn fool on a barn. I. Mean maybe just because I'm from Texas, but if ever there there's a party in a bar and I know it's going to go badly. Have you ever seen sideways? Have you ever seen sideways? So the next up Max record to. Out there with any and Wendy and their kid crews who's probably the cutest thing amish my God what a cutie. Over Body Lesson and cruises like or crews calls at power ranger training. So. He cruises learning and Wendy and editors talking about career stuff and Wendy's saying how she's like wrapping up her maternity leave from Johns Hopkins, and like sort of debating her next step that she still WanNa teach you know she's really enjoyed being a political commentator and I imagine being on the real housewives is maybe not. I'm sure people at Johns. Hopkins. Are Not loving that right now. So Yeah so she's ready to make the jumping quit her job. But she's worried about her Nigerian. Mom, you know being really upset because their whole dream was for her to become a lawyer or a doctor and she did it and so now she doesn't want her mom to you know. Get manner whatever yeah. So Sh- normalcy like mail normal. But I really like, Wendy Nettie so much I just. I. Think they're great. Yeah. and the crew. So my God just promising and learning to punch, and then just turning around a smiling at him I. Am Karate teacher like having him on the shoulder when he's like, I got it that man touches my child one more time I'm coming right over this rail. So. Then we go to Kansas and Chris who were taking a walk. And Chris is like Whoa? No you. It's ninety degrees in the fall. Look over there. That's something I haven't seen in a long time which I don't know what he's talking. He was he said look over there. It's a daddy long legs on the male dogs probably like a philosopher Angela but to him, it's like the size of a daddy long legs. Look at that. Tony. Spider. As the size of my head. Look at that look at Dadi logs with its spindly arms. That's Karen Hugo coming over to say hi. So, money 'cause like well, you know about this not for Lazy moms seeing you know I just need to be hit and then we have this live show coming I've only sold twenty tickets and he's like bouts. It will maybe you should cut back on some stuff that you would normally put into a party and save some money. She's like excuse me. Yeah. I'm wondering like, what is she planning to do a whole thing around this podcast? Ramada me actually everything that was doing reminded me a hundred percent of like our very first big La show where we went not. Stepping repeat for every be did by Merch on SPEC are we like we like booked like we have to book a million deaths and so we literally had like Shannon Madore and Jeff Lewis in Jennifer Lopez and like. Some there's other gauge. We went nuts and watching monique doing this. Reminded me so much of those days but you know you have a version is so I, mean, of course, we don't have millions of dollars to spend by now. Remember our parties are parties are still like this really does anybody know anybody with a bar? And then they could be it could be like I'm Irish pub somewhere where they're watching a football game crate. It's crap in. Sparty now. I know. Exactly but that I also built in the Scavenger Hunt, we literally organized a scavenger hunt where like well, people are if people come to our show, they're gonNA want entire experience will be like those a scavenger hunt. There was an after party the next day like hundred and ten degrees in Los Angeles. So not he had no idea what we were doing I mean the fact that we had the step and repeat is hilarious but we branded the step and repeat or what we did it. We made it so that we couldn't use a separate repeat over and over against a one use. Definitely. Network we with their like we're going to get a step and repeat, and then they put their logo all over it. Yeah, oh. God. Okay. So yeah. So she's talking about how she spending all this money and he's suggesting that maybe she shouldn't be and she's like well, I mean, look I spent two hundred grand he's like all. Like two hundred dollars. That's a lot of money honey and say, you know what I'm I realize M- investment and I'm okay with the investment and I really need your support right now he's a globe was trolling you just go on and on and all. How the next time you support me next on I see daddy long legs. How `Bout, you support me next time I want to have sex with you. Why don't you ever call me daddy long legs. So the baby. So she starts talking about the gas and staff and she's like well, Karen will be there but I guess candace has an attitude with me and there's a good thought you worked everything out remember how you pretended to be asleep when she said goodbye the most mature thing you've ever done. Yeah. Money. How about like next time if you have a guest for your podcast, you don't like. Come at them because they didn't roast marshmallows with you. Okay. That's not how you come at them after the podcast but do beforehand. Right. So she's like well, selfish people don't think about the side. Okay. Because I had to make new flyers. Okay. I to add to cope a graphic designer and take her face off the floor and then I had to print them all out and print out all those flyers I'm like, what are you doing printing out flyers for a live podcast? What do you realize that podcast takes place like over the Internet why are you not? Not Doing Internet advertising. What is wrong with you? Oh Monique. So yeah. She goes over all that staff and she's like. Well. It's okay. Because the topic is about when the honeymoon is over and she hasn't even been on honeymoon, he's like that's eighty as well. It's true. Yeah. and. Ultimately Chris though is like well, I hope you to get it together because aw candice and So he's like not gonNA. Take your side on this one I like Chris he's my buddy. So get it together and stop spending two hundred thousand dollars of my money. That's a lot. Of Tank tops the cell. That's a lot. And then Robin goes over to visit her parents because. Poor Robin's like rob like Robin. What are you doing today? Let's just do the same scene you've done for five years. thinking. Maybe you should give me read again. And her parents are just sitting there and they're just like We were just about to watch wheel of fortune they can. You just make the ski wrap this up? There like enough like we're not, we don't have enough money to buy you wedding presents. Okay. With like can you just like? Okay. So here's the thing If you're getting back together lawn, just tell them that he has to come with you to more events and get a better tattoo and We're not getting you a present. So that's it. Get Out we're sick of the story line with your parents and we're sick of the storyline them. Exactly. So th- Ashley Goes. A store called gossip was just Kinda hilarious. That is hilarious and she was Sheila and her sister Jessica and by Jane Baby Dean's going out on about babies walking there being like big mistake huge. Huge. Do. You have anything that all could use is a picnic table Laura just lift up a flap and lunches right? They Wayne. They bring him a Fisher price ring ring box closed on his finger. He just starts to cry. So they're getting dress for her homecoming and she's like I wanted to be sure. Kind of like a little rob and she's just one wanNA shore drove back. Now you're gonNA get something along. Wholesome married to Michael now, go over there and try on your wholesome dresses. Well, we talk about threesomes. Yeah. Ashes like so Jessica is basically fourteen, but I can stimulate tour which I think still means I'm cool anyway just here's a whole bunch of. Dresses for Shannon dougher types. So enjoy that I'm still cool, right? Yeah. Every dress was like seek wind and Lacey in a way that was it was like everything was like extremely matronly. Out Really was it was very dillard's in there So then Jess let's see. So they sent her over to look staff and then the Sheila's Superman Michael She's been reading all these blogs. And ask she's like well, he no mom he's never going to do it again. He really understands that this is the last time. Yeah, and she's like but he has everything. He has wife a beautiful. He has a beautiful wife. Beautiful Son he has everything you could possibly ask for and how she's like yeah. Well, this is this is one two, three strikes in one one, two, three strikes in one and he knows at this is it I'm like you know how baseball works the third strike is actually that's when you're out. Like There is no fourth straight. Okay. There's no balls here. Yeah. You're like on like the fifth game of the season with. I know this is not like This is not like. I forget what it's called like that where you with a ball on the thing and he? Sports like Mardi. t-ball into we wanted to baseball now like I wonder if I have any more vape fluid up here. Well look. More cuts in the audience how God it's just like David just sitting there and not speaking. I start homecoming. So anyway now we go to the barn and Giselle walks into this barn and She's like. Well, I felt bad that I left witness protection early, which is beneath house. So I, wanted to have something to apologize for that and also to celebrate me and my award. I am the worst. so the girls start to arrive. And Karen just comes in in her big. Whatever scarfs he can with brands all over ethic fenjves basically. Yeah. She's like a she's like a rich lady as a RACECAR. She has to have rats all over her at all times. Room. And she walks o- The barn yeah. The Barn Now. Lovely a barn. and so they make a toast at to her awards and her award or whatever, and just like you know if I hadn't one, I'd be Su embarrassed. which I know. They fly you out there. You'RE GONNA win right probably she's like you know the only celebrity they are so some money 'cause like. She is doing well with the book that she wrote about are cheating ex husband who she is now dating is that going to be part to in, can I sell it on my website I am in so much data so much So, then Kansas and Wendy arrive there the hat crew the got they both look like they're going to go hunting for something. Mice big hats and canvas like a candidate just ignores mony can check. You're not a friend. I'm here for my other friends there's nothing I need to say to Moni. And she also enters in singing of Oh. Okay we're GONNA. Remix I. Think this will calls for a remix of the song who can get on the phone. Okay. Let's do a Olah but let's do it with like a Gogo. And that's a wrap. Great. Great Sash new. So the waiter comes over and sir, some wine to them and Ashley comes in her pilgrim outfit say hello fans. And Karen is enjoying You know her wise this is very good. was aren't why and okay do you have any sort of wine to match Maya countertops? No. Okay. Well I. Appreciate you coming here to celebrate me Ya Very Young Award. Winners with I would like to be called literary award a win. Giselle hosing skills suck, which is standing around in a circle doing absolutely nothing I mean I mean there's not even Elizabeth player affects machine can play with what the party is. This I wish she would have. Got Me. I. Save the gas. God Karen Operating Skype is, is like gives me stress? Way Right, now it says user name we know what that is is it on the back of the router? Ray? So let's see athletes like well I'm just feeling a little off center and it's really hard to conceive when you're breastfeeding but I guess I could have one glass and they're like breastfeeding, oh. What are you talking about? You're going to have another baby Ashley. She's actually. But doesn't. Pregnant. At point she thinks. But but in real life though she actually is pregnant again. I can any current life I should say yard she is pregnant again now, which is exciting for someone. Yeah. So robins like once again, politician Ashley walks in like all's good in the hood I guess we're just supposed to move on and Giselle doesn't. Well all must be good in the Michael World if we might be pregnant. And she's like IRA here. Here's the story As Michael told me there is true to what was said but yeah that's concludes this you. Let's go back. Let's go back. They all start talking over each other like Karen wanted her press conference to be just kind of kind of a fun like circle background. So amy and with you just keeps going. Pick me pick me respect me. So what one at a time Ma wanted to time So now Ashi sorts starts telling Michael said about like so you hey, you went to the Strip club and then then he admits girls there and then they went to. And they're at the MGM and one of them said, some fun of Knowledge Allen. He took up a which I was like don't say he took the bait. He's not an innocent bystander year like he was just some like he's like William hurt and and and like he was seduced into Catherine, what's her face faces arms like? No, that's not what happened. Yeah and like money was like these girls were strippers like. Yeah he took the bay. He did the stripper. Bay and then he fell asleep because he that's what he does and then she snapped a phone. Oh I'm going to say also that really was him. I mean look I'm a bald guy and I know we all look kind of the same but that was definitely Michael Yeah like there's no that was definitely Michael so caring it's like well, Ashley is a tough cookie. But. None of us are believing. She's not hurt I had to put on by big O. Britches suit. I've had on the face to. Our I got one. Also, I wonder if she's got her because of the old. Blue Eyes. Yeah Yeah exactly at this point forty five years old now, and at this point I, just wonder is everybody just in these open relationships and nobody talks about them because. To Be, where am I just watching too much bravo because at this point, I'm just thinking everybody just Fox everybody all the time. Well, Lou Ann was in one for a long time. A lot of people are you know denise stuff from this year this stuff the Karen Staff Yeah. How it should be keep you saying nie-nieto even any had sound like knee was in one a little bit. I. Don't know I don't really keep up but remember it was that like the rumor or something who knows yes. Yeah. rumor. by the way Kathleen Turner, who I was trying to reference before if anyone is like hitting their steering wheels like Bennett Kathleen, Turner Kathleen Turner, it was Kathleen Turner. On because I said William hurt and I said, Catherine said, blame her being seduced by Catherine but I was actually meant to say Kathleen Turner. The body heat. It was a very specific how forty-year-old watch I can watch that movie I was out. I watched it on I wash terrible way I, watched it on like channel eleven on like an old black and white TV with. Rabbit ears so like my memories of it are just like static and like Kathleen Turner being like, why don't you over so? So. money well, I'm confused. So he went to the hotel but didn't have Saxon and she gets right Robinson you believe. You believe. I WANNA see that wasn't the sex tape. So money 'cause like so you don't think like giving you enough truth right now where you won't run out. Don't you think Sorry basically like. don't you think that like maybe he's giving you just enough truths that we don't run out the door like maybe he's still lying and ashes. I know this seems like it's the truth. It's the truth like I think money has a pretty good read on this situation. Yeah because Monique Cycle, all the stuff was in the blogs before he told you, which means that he told you because the stuff was in the blocks you know yeah, and store is also suspicious faulk he fell asleep and woke up and she was next to him in the hotel Yeah and Wendy's like Have you seen Michael, who's cuddling with that? Yeah. Exactly. So the national like well, there are a lot of things I mean, my marriage has had its own identity and Michael in situations where they being other people before for example, we were hanging out of the David Guate-, concert like though this story does not have to go any further. Why were you at a David Greta cons? Why was Michael David Accounts? What is he doing there? What both are you doing there but what specifically is he doing there? No need to continue the story that is grounds for divorce the on I'm love. David Gwenda you don't like him are you thinking of the? Idol Guy. No that would be hilarious. Yes. W-. David. Archer let disgusting like maybe all this queue step like what is it? What is happening here and then I'll say, no, I have David Greta. I like I like his songs by as a whole i. just feel like I would never really good with David Greta concert first of all his songs of the same, it's always like did do to do to address like you may things that you love someone but you don't know the truth. It's like that's it. Every David Guetta song as it's always like really quiet and then I. And but also just like. Like EDM concerts are like low worst lake. There's just. One EDM thing I went to see a DJ club in Hollywood? It was a dj who I really liked and I went and it was like all like twenty two year olds who had like maybe maybe twenty one year olds would all had their I drink for the first time Auburn like rolling on Molly and they're all like there was no appreciation for spatial awareness everyone was bumping in and you spend their drinks like I. Love this long you know like the Feathers in the hair like I make up. It's just like an awful experience and that's what I imagine a David Greta concert would be even if I do like it the music there's no way in hell I'm going to his concert unless I'm sitting. Waiting. You. How dare you? going. To thank I came back and keep that side. But yeah, of course this time. Years you as you rail against David Guate-. I've just knowing. Concerts how? Or. Bulletproof I love that song I mean come on. The NICKI Menaj one, right Things bulletproof. It's on my workout album and so I haven't heard it locked. Well, shot is bulletproof saw. Dental living. Bulletproof. I think I have it. that is. True. that. That's that's. You know every few years there's like a Laredo that comes around. You know there was like the Ting tings the. Math Panton leans viral. Five. Yeah. I only. Because she says it time. So anyway, the point is that David Greta gets some horny. So. They were at this David concert and asked to Horny from some girl and. So it was a threesome like, yeah, and everyone's like mobile. I icons. Money goes. Was it two guys? You're listening you're listening skills. Lazy Infringers. Come on. He. was like the best you've ever heard. Okay. Keep Straight. Literally, keep straight so Cairns, well, I, appreciate talking to us Oh. We already feel blank. Okay. I know I had and I'm okay with it. Okay. That's all that's. So are you in a monogamous place right now? And she's like, yes, I don't want anything with anything else and when he's like. So if this happens again, where are you? We are done that is track nine if we've been happening to. Moving on the football. It's six zero one in strike number fourteen. Okay. So. Basically they're pretty cool about it. You know. It's your marriage. I mean you know you do you and she's like you know and I'd like to say that I know that I've had my own opinions about your all's relationships in this group and I haven't always been very supportive and you don't have to be supportive of me but you are being supportive and that really shows you're a group of mature women and I really appreciate it. Thank you for coming to see the mayflower doc. We're going to find our ceremonial bird. The Turkey. Of. Dresses like appearance to come in to talk about her three. Just. So Rich I love this so I guess we should address this Turkey. The Turkey. Went to a strip club and found a bunch of pilgrims and enjoy likely you come back to the hotel killed. The Turkey and the Turkey didn't take the bait. So that's that's striking. and. Just like, yeah you know what look marriage is hard I sleep under a brick house every. I get it. It's not easy and just like well, thanks for coming everybody. Thanks for coming and Kansas is she's like in that. Yes. We're in that space where they know they're supposed to be a fight, but it's been derailed. So they're like, okay let's just start a fight now. Well, because because basically she was like listen I know I've had a lot of, as you said like I know if I had a lot of opinions about you guys. So I WANNA say thank you for being supportive and whatever. Being, mature mature ladies and Kennedy because I. Love You guys because they're like complementing each other for being mature ladies. So she's Kansas. Drunk shift I love you guys they're like Oh candice like once he get some wine and canvas becomes nights like I'm always nice I'm always nice Monica's after some wine and so then that's one Ashley's like Oh Wilson that's a good question. So are you guys good what's going has good right now and they're like money's like well, we are where we are where where we are. And where we are is that cancellations happen and you live with cancellations which kind of comes out of nowhere because monique that's why I said it's like, okay let's start a fight now 'cause monique didn't even say anything about a cancellation res- time to fight about the cancellation. So then candies like well, you know I'm I'm meeting her where she. is where she is back there. Yeah, and so it's like well, what's the issue why and Candice Says Northern Like I love Monique even when Monique pretends to be asleep when I'm about to leave and by this point, somehow candace has found a knife and a much sharper knife in the butter knife and she's waving it around look a steak knife now. How did you find a knife and why are you? Why? Why do you are you always holding bobby under the seats and she's GonNa come out with a my this is going to be like bigger and bigger and bigger. I know. So Monique Missing I. Don't I don't think knows what she's talking about it. I because she's like what he now is pretending to be asleep I'm awake always wake I'm. Woke. Woke I'm always woke educators just like, but you're asleep and she's like you were asleep or you were pretending to be asleep. So now they're like having some miscommunication about the sleep thing and then they kind of like what are you even talking about? Do you understand what I went through? Oh, you don't have kids so you don't get it and said Oh. So we're mom shaming when MOM's Jamie. Outcome I mom seem you you don't even have kids you don't just bomb same someone without kids. What I'm saying is you don't know what it's like running around for kids all day and trying to get the house ready and I was tired I wanted to go to sleep and she's like what i Narendra Mom Famer yes. That was my perception. Just I was tired. That was my perception and Wendy now Wendy is now trying to take the wind out of candidates hand he has like, no. No why would you shame me? Why would you shame me? Like. Well, why would I pretend? Why would I pretend like pretend because he can't stand her and he didn't WanNa say goodbye to her it's pretty clear why pretend monique yeah. So they're just kind of yelling over each other like my mother one of them is listening they're just both yelling in them. While they're doing it wendy take sublime, and then they're trying to take the knife out of Kansas, his hand because of course, he's waving it all over. You know like, please put down the knife. Down the night. I'd so there's there's like they're talking about. Again the sleep thing and I thought you. I thought you guys had a had like a friendship what's going on and say, well, it was a facade it was a facade and can start seeing things about like. Well, I was putting it. Was Me putting everything into it and nothing being returned ever ever and they start doing the tour she starts twirling around in circles going on. Board with sleep. Sleep and twirling. Money's like Oh shut up Chia pet with your twirling and mallender something. Wrong. Because there was this some money does like a side thing where she says that like. She's just saying that this is all basically it's about Sharia why she so angry that's what the deeper issue is and so now Giselle just basically like well, they wouldn't becoming for each other if it weren't for cherise right and the trainer. So you definitely caused problems with it just L.. So. Now, candidates saying goodnight goodnight goodnight and her hands are like an Mondays face and good night good night good night and the during the finger in the face. Money's like get your hand out of my face, get your hand out of old you like this. Do you like this so she starts flipping canvases hair and not stopping like it wasn't just a one flip. It was like start flipping your hair you know, and then she just pulls her hair and grabs her, and then it's back to the Betamax. CARE has your. Plan at UC Karen Trotting over like? No No. Oh. Quick cuts. But we don't really know what's happening on what's what's going on with at least something's finally happening at this party. The Barn. I really needed the close up of the cauliflower on the floor I. Mean they've been promising that all season long I know I needed and what actually really bothered me was that like this was all happening and like you knew that we weren't going to get the real fight but we're GONNA get flashes, and then they made the screen small to sort. Of like queue up watch live like you see Andrew preparing as notes and everything people getting ready and I was like I understand that you're trying to promote watch happens live but I need to see these morsels of this fight in like the full scream I can't have my screen reduced already credits rolling I. Don't crabs were getting underway like I need to. I need to have this like as big as possible for my brain at the moment. But yes, this is evidence. Okay. Yeah. But I'm sure we'll only see twenty more time Susan so Get the whole thing next week hopefully hopefully. Yeah. So we will be back next week with some more of this fun Nece, and finally we get to this fight which actually I'm kind of impressed that it's taking place in episode eight or arts and Episode A, and they didn't make us wait till episode sixteen or whatever. Yeah. My my prediction is that we'll see the fight next week there'll be lots of discussion and then I think I, we'll get the midseason trailer after next week's episode because this is going to be like the big turning point in the season it's much as like when tens left New York or on Beverly Hills. When denise stormed out of cows Barbecue I think this is GonNa be a big turning point and I think that the trailer is coming soon. Well, we will see you next week everybody. Thank you so much for being here. GO CHECK US out the rest of the week. We'll be back every day. We'll be covering some new. 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Pompatus of Love  | 06/12/19

Pat Gray Unleashed

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Pompatus of Love | 06/12/19

"Pat grade is here on the blaze radio network. Welcome says bad great. You know, so people Mr. app. Mr. Twitter mister steak, Mr. Zaza. We've found out yesterday Zaza some call me the space cowboy some call me the gangster of love. Some people call me MAURICE, but I speak of the pompous of love. And I guess that's where start today. Maurice. Now. I didn't know that. Yes. Some people do you picker. No. Okay. You the. Paul king, or going to join us later onto the disturbing trend about expanding the acceptance of socialism in the country. She's so we'll we'll get into that with him. Yeah. He wrote that book on on that communist mentor of Barack Obama years ago. If you remember that. Yes, What's his face. Gosh, man. Frank marshall. Yes, Frank Marshall Davis. Good book. Yeah. He does some research, man. All right. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three Ninety-three ended Pat unleashed on Twitter. Smirk smirk at tweets, I had a gastric bypass surgery, a few years ago, lost a lot of weight. My body's been trying to help me recover since and I have gradually gained some back. I got my rid us own early last month. And as of today, thirteen pounds gone naive feeling great fantastic. That is so cool, it go. That is great love success stories, you know, and maybe reduce own will help you to it helps you fight cravings and it kicks your metabolism into Garrett speeds it up contains. Oh, we which is molecule naturally present in your body. And this just gives you more of it to strengthen that signal to your brain, that you're full and it's not a stimulant it will make feel jittery. It doesn't contain any caffeine at all. Good Arabia zone dot com. That's our idea, you zone dot com. Get a thirty day money back guarantee. And save thirty percent on a three-month supply at rid us own dot com. That's reduce own dot com. Pat gray on wheat. Around for my oh here it is. Yeah. There's. You got this on Facebook, I guess. From barb. She just passing symbol, some thoughts onto us here, hasn't some thoughts on. She says I about ready to my blade subscription, right? She said, what I about ready to dump by Blake subscription. Because for all the airtime, you and Glenn give to all the abortion all the time programming. She's talking about you. Yes. You and Glenn, Glenn, given all the time to abortion. Okay. Not you or Glenn have given one single minute to addressing the behavior of men. Which is not true, Glenn. I just last week. What I was on the show. It was even Monday, talked about the behavior of men and why some men are pro-life, probably because they want to leave that option open of all. Yeah. Well, they'll just give you five hundred bucks and you can, you can get yourself in abortion, so that they can have their cake, and eat or two. We just members talked about that. I remember. Anyway. This is why the left says it's about controlling women. Not once I seen either of you get one your soapbox. Get one yourself boxes about demanding that men, respect women that men abstain that men quit joking with their buddies about how they got something from this girl or that. When I see so many comments from your fans, use the she should have thought of that before she spread her legs posts it makes me one of 'em it in a why. Because none of them ever say he should've kept it in his pants. Well, of course I mean. I mean, there's we can't cover every every single possible. Position on every single possible story or issue the issue right now is killing babies. Okay. And, and it is women killing babies. Yeah. Stuff killing babies, and they're going to have sex talk. I think we talk about the right way to act. And, and. You know Christian principles Christian Judeo principles. They're included in that. I don't know that we can cover every single aspect of humankind. But. Here. She says the. He should have been a many and married, her should have been a while. He should have been a many should have been a many. What do you think she's going for the old Mary, her should have been a man should have been a man? I'll let you put away though. Auto corrects should've had a many and married her type this on our phone. He should be demanding male birth control options. Nope. All you do address women's behavior you rail about sex trafficking will. Yeah, that's kind of helping women. Right. But skip the part that the demand side comes from men. I don't think we have skip that part, frankly, I've actually heard men who claim to be conservative and Christian say their sex chat with their sons is some women are for keep and others are for practice. I've never heard that one. Never heard. Wait. What was it some some, some women for keep and others for practice? And that's saying that that's like the sex talk that, yes, I guess, with her sons. I mean not. I've never heard of that women are for keeping. Women. Pract greg. Right now. Go wash it. Never heard that one brought home some possum Iran over on the way home material. Your momma was good for practice. Didn't came no talk. Well, I've not heard those your sister for that matter. No. I mean, come on, really I have never heard that ever, not once I've never heard. That sounds like this is a person with a man problem and I can't help you with that. Sorry as I recall, Jesus stopped people from stoning. Mary. Magdalene is how this winds up. Yes, he did. And. Okay. All right. Well, he was a responsible guy there. So, yeah, Jesus model your life after him. Right. You look at that. See we just talked about men behavior. We did. Yep. Gave Jesus props there. He also total told her to go and sin, no more. So I'll turn it back on the woman. Now, Pat, which is a good moment finishing on a high note and talking about the Lord. And now you have to bring it back to the Lord said, you know. So can't make everybody happy. I mean, and you know all of that's implied. I think you know we. I mean, nobody condones men acting like douche begs. None of us can condone that Glenn doesn't condone that, I don't condone that we certainly don't act that way in our own lives. Skipped over Jeffey there. Well, yeah, I mean wanting men act like deuce better be here in twenty twenty five minutes. All right. He's here today, could ask him about it, but I can't we just on the same team barb, barb. Yeah. We, we want babies live. Let's not Fisher at this point. Please and stepped leaving your bingo card out man you're going to give people. They can see it from that angle. I think so. Yeah, it was right there. Hey, if you haven't caught up get to the eight minute Mark of Wednesday's show to see where we're not get off. Tell them. Even worse. Blaze, TV dot com. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three. All right. I consider myself chest is so we're gonna turn this thing around, and then now all right. Okay. Good. I mean obviously you shouldn't be getting women pregnant, if you're not willing to follow through if you're not marrying that person if you're, if you're not married to I mean, I'm a Christian, I believe in. Not having premarital sex or post marital for that matter, unless it's with the person you married. I want to get married that's over practices. It's over. All right. Moving on moving onto the women's team last night. Oh, yeah. Oh, soccer. Ever thailand. I might have to start watching soccer. This is like you know, because a one to nothing beating in soccer is like, well that's an insurmountable lead of one to nothing this. So. When it's for teen to nothing that would be like in football, winning one hundred forty to nothing. This was while I just started getting nothing. The alerts on my phone yesterday. I'm like, wait. She slut. In a World Cup game a record margin of victory at the women's World Cup. Alex Morgan tallied five goals by herself Tida tournament record. That's pretty cool. And as I say, in the Article No single stat can do this bloodbath, Justice. Single description can explain just how excellent and ruthless the US was. Good. Yeah. I love it. I love it. Sadly, there's a I don't remember who it is. Is it Alex Morgan? I don't know anyway. One of them doesn't want to. Doesn't wanna put her hand over heart for the for the national anthem. It's not hers, Dan for it or I don't know some weird thing, the Americans battered and bullied and outpaced outplayed their overmatched opponents and they never relented. They're only up three nothing at halftime. And in the second half of the game of the match scored ten more gold. Wow. That's amazing. The final score. See this is why soccer so sad. If the final score it actually stayed three to nothing that, if it self would have been a huge blowout. Yes. Yes. But thirteen to nothing. Wow, Meghan revenue. By the way, is the right. Yeah. No, yeah. I think that's, that's just plain sad. I mean that's a big deal to win thirteen nothing on a soccer game. But it's is it pales in comparison, what the Brave's did last night, hitting four home runs of the course of five batters. Thank you very much. John Bravo's gloves. You've got that in your job. Thank you. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three eighty three love the little back and forth between the president and Joe Biden yesterday man, they don't like each other. This is going to be some kind of campaign, and this is what we said from the beginning, if it's if it's Trump and Biden going head to head. Can you imagine? And we already got a taste of that yesterday. They say we're back and forth at each other. And here here's Biden versus Trump. Trump saying that Biden is mentally weak. A split screen moment, and a possible preview of the general election. He says, let's make America great again, must make America America again. Sleepy. Joe says sleepy guy, former vice president, Joe Biden courting voters in the country's first state looking past his more than twenty democratic opponents and setting his sights squarely on the current commander in chief. I believe that the president is literally an existential threat. Oh, sure. Today, the president taking shots just before leaving on his trip to a state he won in two thousand sixteen. What a man has mentioned my name, seventy six times that season. Trouble are you elevating? Joe Biden by continually attacking, no, I'd rather run against, I think violent than anybody. I think he's the weakest mentally. I like reading it gets people that are with mentally. Yeah. I don't care who you are. You gotta love that. June of twenty nineteen. Right. Can you imagine next summer? Oh, I'm telling you telling you on if those two guys are in the same place at the same time, it would be I think it's even objects. There's a physical altercation between the two no kidding. Okay. It's an old guy fight. Also the president called him a dummy, which. Absolutely love that. Cities, a dummy. It's just great. I mean it's not you know, I don't know that it's presidential but I love it. I'm sorry. Love it. I think this is what debates sound like in the realm of idiot. Crecy the movie that foretells our future. This is we're here. He's weak mentally. He's a dummy. He's a loser. I mean he called him all those things yesterday. Look as immature as Brooke Obama was I just cannot picture him, saying any of this stuff. No. On either side. I can't picture any other president ever saying this kind of stuff can't see him again. That's why he was elected to save his stuff. I don't think Obama would would call another president or presidential candidate existential threat to America either. That's crazy. That's and that's why by deserves it. He deserves being gulled a dummy mentally weak. I mean, you know, it's, it's a little dangerous because Trump's only a few years younger than Biden, what seventy six now and Trump is seventy two seventy six for Biden turned seventy seven member. Yeah. It's been two years. He's seventy two now seventy to look at this in two days, Trump will be seventy three. Wow. Happy birthday. Mr President really in two days, so June fourteenth Seventy-three. Yes, sir. Okay. No fifteenth fourteenth fourteenth. Okay. Nobody going Keith math. Well, I was I was confused as to whether it was the twelfth. Thirteenth twelve. All right. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three Ninety-three we've got that crew's coming up next year. It's going to be something would we love to be there? You bet. Are we going to be? Maybe. But I can tell you this Glenn will be there, Bill O'Reilly Stu, David Barton rabbi lap, and it's a fourteen day adventure. Next spring sailing in the eastern Mediterranean, you're gonna visit, you'll start. I believe in Venice, which I've always wanted to see Venice Croatia. Then Jerusalem Athens, Greece. What a great time. What historic places to stop. And check out get off the boat. For awhile stretcher legs, go through the, the go, see the Parthenon, How cool would that be? In Jerusalem, you can walk where Jesus walked, just an amazing experience. If you can bring your kids bring your grandkids and share this incredible experience. Visit come sail away dot com, you'll get all the details and you can check out the different packages and hurry. Because the ship is felt Philip fast. I think three thousand are going to be there, and I think we're over halfway there already and we still have what almost a year to go here. So it's going fast make your decision and join us for this incredible for this incredible crews, visit come sail away dot com. This is Pat gray unleashed. All right at bed unleash, we got Timothy gilmer's thoughts come on pad. We all know your Mr. every aspect of humanity. Yes, I do pride myself on covering. Absolutely. Every aspect of every issue every day, all the time, would you say, you know, a little bit about everything? No, I'd say I know a lot about everything. I know everything about everything and cover everything about everything. Wow. Every day awesome. I can't wait to talk about Olympic field hockey. I mean, our podcast is so dense people got have to go back through it. And listen over and over and over to each episode just to pick up the subtle nuances of all the all the information, I disseminate information overload, and I will. And I will any what's her face tweets regarding abortion and having babies. Yes. Both parties hold equal responsibility. But one of the two is involved sort of the gatekeeper. Yeah, that I mean that's really true. But again, barb that does not. Clear men of their responsibility in this they should keep it in their pants. Absolutely. You know, unless you're married and you're ready to have kids while then have at it. Right. We're supposed to multiply, and replenish the earth. But. I, I don't think we've ever can don't guys be douchebag. Lone wolf twenty nine sixty five so will the show name be changing to MAURICE unleashed as a nice little ring to it mall. Unleash see get my sign right for you and everything. Well, I mean it could be space cowboy to right. It could be the gangster of love. It could be motoring. He's unleashed. But you know again I speak of the pompous of love, I don't have enough room on my whiteboard for lyric. There cowboy. I don't think the pump is of love has ever been explained. What it, what is that? I've never taken the time to even look that word up. Look it up. Let's look it up today, and now in see what that means because I don't think I know everybody sings it, and nobody knows they're singing about nobody knows okay? It's like the metric system. There's just no way to tell you way. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three speaking of abortion. We got all these businesses now claiming that abortion is necessary to be a successful business. Oh. I mean, they've tried a lot of tactics on his to try to justify murdering babies, but this one may take the cake top executives more than one hundred eighty companies have signed a letter that says abortion is essential in order for people to be successful in their businesses. Really? Fascinating when everyone is empowered to succeed, our companies, our communities and our economy are better for it. Don't ban equality. So by having a Boertien you've been empowered to succeed at what murder okay restricting access to comprehensive reproductive care, again, killing children is not reproductive care. That's not including abortion threatens the health independence, economic stability of our employees. And our customers simply put it goes against our values and is bad for business their values while that's an interesting value, it impairs our ability to build diverse and inclusive workforce, pipe pipelines, recruit top talent across the states, and protect the wellbeing of all people who keep our businesses, thriving day in and day out. Access to reproductive care. Means everyone succeeds including well, everyone except the baby who's being murdered. That person doesn't succeed. But this includes companies communities and the economy, along with the hundred and eighty at companies we've signed today's historic New York Times statement, affirming, the importance of reproductive health to equality in the workplace at one of the things was desperate be able to recruit quality talent in doesn't lessen the talent pool lemony this. Well, but I would love to hear from someone who was going to take a job like man, I don't wanna take this job in Alabama. We're gonna take this job in New York. Yeah. 'cause well. Well. He's right up until birth, so cost of living's, higher, New York, bundling they're able to a life, right? If I want to New York employee of mine might be able to terminate. And we want that we want that dumbest thing Fetig mean seriously, they're really desperate right now. The list includes slack, technologies, Bloomberg LP MAC, cosmetics, H, M, yelp solid, these all of these internet companies. All of these apps are headed by progressives square Inc. Course Ben and Jerry's. Communists, the two of them. They should do a Karl Marx flavor. The Karl Marx flavor. Does it taste like the blood of innocence? Yes. Okay. Karl Marx read the blood of a hundred million people included right in the ice cream Atlantic records and Warner Music group pop sugar hint incorporated. The body shop US, of course, Jack Dorsey CEO Twitter signed the letter for his company and is other digital company square. Don't ban equality. Equality while that's how is that equal men can't have abortions. Right. You know what doesn't equal to pass laws that allow for men to have abortions. Right. This isn't dumbest. Well, they will. They will cause the trans thing. The absolutely will letter. Was it Kirsten? Gillibrand. Sounds like sounds like her stuff. Doesn't it? This is hard to get through Keith started playing this yesterday. I'm like, no. Do this. Once. Showed them all. I don't even know if I can get through it once here, she is comparing pro-life activists to racists. I think it's it's wrong to deny women, basic reproductive, freedom, basic reproductive, freedom worried about judicial independence but imposing litmus test on your nominees long been seen as an in crying on independence. Are you doing some issues that are much more thirty? We have a society decided that the other side is not acceptable. Imagine saying that it's okay to appoint a judge who's racist or anti semitic or homophobic, Kelly asking someone to point someone takes away, basic human rights of any group of people in America. I think that we are we've, we've I, I don't think those take human life. We believe in this country and the separation of church and state, and I respect. Of every American don't hold their religious beliefs shoes for themselves entry in our constitution has always demanded that we have a separation of church and state and all by President Trump and other radical conservative judges injustices to impose their faith on Americans is contrary to our constitution. And that that's what this is. So I believe that for all of these issues, they are not issues that there is a fair other side. There's no moral equivalency when you come to racism. And I do not believe there's a moral equivalency when it comes to changing laws. That's women reproductive freedom. That is terrible. Terrible, so you can use that as litmus test. It's gotten so bad with these radical extremists Democrats, there now grilling judicial nominees over their official of over there -ffiliated, with groups like the knights of Columbus. And it's so bad that Ben Sasse the other day, it was mocking them by asking. Peter Phipps, who is a, a nominee to be a federal judge. He asked him are you now. Or have you ever been involved in the organization of fish fry? So Greek because he's fantastic. I love Ben Sasse and because they're asking about their affiliation with the knights of Columbus. I'm sorry. Are you involved with the rotary club? Have you ever been to a moose lodge? Have you ever been bowling with a moose lodge group of people with a group of people who have a socio with a moose lodge? No. I know where did you get that? I know I don't think so I, I don't maybe when it was really, really young, but I've since worn off the moose. Have you ever driven their lodges driven by a moose launch? Well, could you plan an alternate route that took you somewhere other than your purposefully? Dr not that I not that I can recall. I plead the fifth, I plead, the fifth adjourned get the witness outta here. He's always in a qualified for this position. That's who these people are. Now, this is such a witch hunt on every issue. If you're religious sorry, you've got no place in our society. Now, the left can do. I mean Nancy Pelosi can talk about the word. Of course, the word is the word, of course we all know. How that informs public policy? So that's okay, if you're a democrat, and if you don't really believe in, because what informs her policy making? Doesn't seem to be the word because Jesus never taught that it was okay to have abortions. Can you really imagine the Jesus would condone abortion? Can you are really imagined that after he, he sent that precious being to you? He be okay with you killing it. Really? I don't think so. I don't think so. Just a recap a presidential candidate for twenty twenty. Here's Jilib ran has basically said that pro-life being pro-life is the same as being resumed. Right. You're a racist. You're the equivalent of a racist. If you're pro fortunately, taken man, here's the one one good poor part of that. Kirsten gillibrand has no chance of becoming president of the United States, and we all know it, so I'm not going to get to work up about it, even though I already have. But I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna try to call myself in the knowledge that there's no way she wins. What does she is? She even at one percent. Yes. He's read. She might be at one. She's registered one percentage point. So congratulations on that Kirsten again, these extremists. They're frightening. They're absolutely frightening. All right. Scientists have just found a correlation between of course, we know about the growing rates of obesity. But they also found that processed foods lead you to overeat as well. 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All right. So there you go a little bit too much token going on by space coupla. That's so well he is a Toker smoker. Naito writer. Love on the run which far but thank you for reminding us, that's a bad thing. Stop it. Steve do not get your Lovin on the run. No. They say no, I don't know what they say. Keeps not keeps keep keep L summer for practice. Keep over coop. Yeah. So I'm sorry. Right. Right. Right. Oh, that happened. Means. So we got a little entertainment news. This is actually breaking news if I were to say to you. Hey, do you think Steve Lawrence is still alive? You'd say, no most people would say who, like Stephen Eddie. Yes. Yes. Even the but he is. He was just diagnosed with Alzheimer's very set on eighty three. I didn't even realize he was still around. But it was very sad. That's a disease. I know. That's I do not want that at it's the most frightening thing. We have to have a cure to that. Yes, please. Any kind of dementia. Alzheimer's, any of that needs to be. Yeah. Yep. I wanted to probably need a paper towel or something to dry your eyes because I Kleenex maybe this week this past weekend right weekend. Selene dion. Performed her last show, the loss. Big don't say that don't say that. The tears. Don't don't paper products in this joint has been. It's been sixteen years on no since she started in Las Vegas has it really it's, it's over now. Don't say why. So you're live man. She's done enough in beg. It's she's announced to. Courage world tour was going to start. So, so let me just put into a chance to see her. Do still have a chance to see her in Las in Las Vegas. That's a little less sad. But. So she's done sixteen years in Vegas over a thousand over eleven hundred shows actually in Vegas for selene Dion. Kicking sales in excess of four hundred million dollars. That's pretty good gig for her. She doesn't wonder where her next meal is coming from. But she might though because she's actually lost a bunch of ways she's looking thin. People are worried. Really? Yeah. She's got a new boyfriend new hot young. Boyfriends, he's low. Yeah. Her word, I think. Right. And he, he was worth a few bucks to independently. Yes. Was he really is? So Cillian is not concerned. I remember correctly quite a bit older than she was that was one years as more. Yeah, she's coming here in February third twenty twenty we'll be sure to. So you go to that, right? Before you go on the on the spring cruise in the Mediterranean. What a way to start your vacation, what we're gonna be. Actually, the show is actually nice to stop the show in the middle of it. Some guy got up to go to the bathroom, and she just stopped. We'll wait what she waited for the guy to go to the bathroom, and come back. It's funny actually funny. It's really funny. She gave him what you gave them a hard time about being broke now. We'll wait. You spend a lot of money for these tickets. Cool. That's it's funny and it's it's nice, but. Chance to see our Vegas. Again. Very sad, Tournant dang darn tower residencies stay there little bit longer book there. Yeah. But for some reason when I imagined it'd be in Vegas. I don't imagine what a selene Dion concert. Oh, you can't drag me away. Oh, other things happening for you. Yes. Yes. Practice. Some of. Okay. Vegas saying there. And then that stays someone from practice some of there's nothing for keeping Vegas. News. Justin Bieber wants to wants to fight. Tom. Cruise. Yeah. That's a weird thing. Really weird thing. He challenged Hollywood star Tom Cruise to UFC fight on social media. He just had the big outburst said, hey, I wanna challenge Tom Cruise to a fight in the octagon. You don't take this fight. You're scared that you will never live it down him cleaning up his life really still on why I don't know. I don't know Conor McGregor. He had involved. He said, hey, I'll host the fight. If compro- man enough to accept the challenge. Mcgregor sports entertainment, will host it. He then then kind of Gregor said, you know what I'll even I'll even throw a fight out there. Let me fight Mark Wahlberg bring him on Marky, Mark. I'll fight him octagon too. So he wants a part of. No, I don't know. I don't know. I just I think that just an is trying to stay maybe a little relevant Tom. On the other hand, does not need just, you know, he, he does not need this fight. In fact, people were commenting that they would pay to see, you know, the Tom Cruise fight, and that he that Tom would absolutely beat the crap out of Justin Bieber. I would I don't know just as a pretty good shape. And he's so Tom, have you seen? I know shirt off. I know what fifty six year old man, and he's kind of jumped up on the couch for Oprah and all that stuff. Right. He's got. Yeah. Yeah. So a lot of people believe Tom would win and win. Yeah, I think so, too. I think it'd be fun. But you know one person asked Tom Cruise wondering who's just Bieber. Justin who so good luck with that. Well, more news on the Woodstock fifty. I know you were looking forward to going to Woodstock was I ever and I you know, it's still could have I can't get enough canned heat just kill could happen. But it doesn't look good. I of course the festival faced a series of setbacks again, last came Monday when Watkins Glen international announced it's not hosting the diversity. It's over. It issued a two sentence statement. That's how much it meant to them. Two sentences. It's we terminated the site license for the upstate festival. It's pursuant to the contract. We're not doing a nice day. So the people are still saying, well, we could still find another place. We could still make it happen supposed to happen in August. Yeah. So good. I know I know. And you're right and can't heat is we're gonna have Jay z, right? Santana Miley, Cyrus Miley. Right. John Fogerty hasn't gained bell. Who's there at the first one dead and company and imagine dragons, no can't heat though can't heat is not part of it doesn't say it here. Now, maybe they are maybe especial of Justice. Camden full the plug on the right without can't heat. You can't you can't. Maybe that's why I walked Glenn shut it down. If you're not hearing country. Oh man classics, right? Yeah. I don't like magic dragons either is that just me. Maybe I'm the only I think you are the only one really well seven. As some of the stuff some of the songs that was the same. Yeah. The last right. So you do you do say is that. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's where you're at with them. So if you hear once, and you really like it like the first time you hear them all, actually. Good. And then, like you said is that. Yeah. Okay. Same thing. Thunder. Thunder thunder other one that does change the track. That's the one I was thinking of name another one word imagine dragons song, because they're a cat. I can't you can't I don't know the radioactive radioactive, right? Lever. Believe her thunder. Thunder. Right. Different different cells. Oh supposedly. But they're not gonna you know. It probably won't happen. So they say they're there. I mean, they seem committed to it. They say it's still going to happen. And they're gonna go lice. Yeah. You got two months better on it. I know they're planning on having a hundred. They were talking about maybe trying to think, and they were gonna have one hundred fifty thousand people there, I read sixty thousand Astro. Well, they were saying that sixty five thousand would be safe and appropriate for most of the places, but they believe we know they're, they're selling it as a hundred fifty thousand it's gonna be free like the original right? There's no way they can put it on free, right? No way. Yeah. And they had that big backer that gave them a bunch of money in the backer was a little while ago. Like we're pulling out. Yeah. Somebody have day. Yeah. At eighteen million. We said we were going to give, you know, no, no more. It's kind of weird. It is people would be pretty committed to dune the anniversary, the fiftieth anniversary. Woodstock seems like a big deal like a big deal. That is an iconic happening. It's an iconic event in American masters. Definitely. I kinda go, there's no way to get around. Most iconic thing ever in music. I'm sure right. You anything bigger. I mean more influential had to be dollar fluential. No, I've got a couple of what a couple of stones, concerts that were big and people got killed. Yeah, but remember Almonte because of the murder, right? So, but for music and the set the scene for America, culture and half a million people there, so, yeah, those big Celine Dion Las Vegas and all their I'm sorry. Jeff just eclipsed. Well, that's, that's what's wrong. Right. Aerosmith is doing their Vegas, stint Selena's in Vegas. Yeah. Yeah. Did you wanna go play in a field nam good here? That's a great gig. You, you know, you make forty one hundred million ago, you you've got a you don't have to go anywhere or three nights a week plus shows, and you're and you're done. That's a good gig. That's it's wheat. You're live at is. Yeah, that's real good. And yourself I mean merchandising all of it. It's a lot of money. Thank you for blazing that trail oak. Don't thank you. Don't do it, man. Don't do it. Me another energy. Need another sandwiches? Lard. You'll be the case. King making me mad. Yeah. Man. I appreciate that my last remaining fan. Thank you, baby. Yeah, you're getting you're getting visibly shaken over there could be. I mean, you're talking about the king making fun of the king, no thinking tribute, okay? To me, Queen, hang on a minute, man. Got a commercial to do. In america. About fifty million of us have. Pull right out of that is one of those. Yeah, he was, but he self Medicated. And that was probably not a good idea to be. Yeah. Did prove not to be? 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Are you ready to do it for a thousand bucks are going to give you a flip phone provide the participant with the survival kit? A physical map to be used in place of apps. They're going to give you a phone book for jotting down phone numbers of notebooks, CDs with ninety air music on it. And you got to just use the flip phone for a week for thousand bucks. And you got a document everything with a CD with nineteen nineties, nineties era music doesn't say which particular which particular and you only have to use it for a week. Yeah, I do that. I could do that. So I mean, that's the thirtieth anniversary of the flip phone, why they're doing it the frontier more than thirty thousand applicants already so good luck. Good thing is though you have until July first, there's no background check and drug tests so dinner. All right. I got shot. Yes, you do. You still shot. There was a fascinating story about a tourist in Canada. There's a museum, this vermilion heritage museum in Alberta, that had a safe there and people would come to the museum and try to open the safe. They had the safe was there from since the since the eighties, it was given to the museum, and nobody knew the combination, so people would show up at the museum and try to open it get a shot to open. And so this guy shows up couple of weekends ago, and he says, I'll try he puts his ear up to the safe. And he said that when I looked at the safe, this, Stephen Miller, when I looked at the safe, the numbers twenty forty sixty that combination, just popped into my head, so I- joked around little bit of my ear up to the safe, and I real the safe around and did the forty clockwise sixty bag forty back and open the safe. Wow. Fantastic. Right. And they were all excited because, you know, of course, what was the safe a billion dollars? No. Was not a billion dollars. It was just some patients restaurant order pad nothing. Just from its old hotel. Big time let down but it was, you know, it's got a school that he got an open. Oh, I forgot we gotta do this to there's an amber. I don't know if there's an amber alert, this is called an amber alert or cow alert, or a bull alert. But there's a bull rodeo bull missing here in North Texas. And they're so if you're on the lookout, this is what it looks like now it's a missing. It's, it's Brown and black horn, Bulwer seventeen hundred pounds as purple air Texan each ear. It's got a zero one on the left shoulder five a on the left loin appear on the left hip, and be over the bar, the left hip. So if you see this bull, it's been stolen skipped. So good luck, only in Texas. Are we could mapping goals? Yeah. This is something that I think we know this already, and this is a new study, but the new study says that ruggedly masculine guys, sir. There's not many. With highly masculine faces and voices are less likely to care about the environment. Sign me while so wow. Right. If your voices are rated more manly, you're less concerned with preserving and protecting the natural world. Whatever. So there's is our friend barb still listening. I wonder -nother strike against men, therefore bar. 'nother thing about men, right? Suck. We shouldn't prison men. Yeah. It's put them all in jail for the way they behave. Yep. Okay. A toxic masculinity. Put, I'll often if I talked about toxic masculinity over and over and over neverending white guy privilege toxic masculinity one trick pony. Yeah. I know. Yeah, I know. I know how much you love animal videos. Cute little. Oh. Oh. He's banned program, so thought I'd bring some to the table, you know, just to help the show along a little bit. So. Zoo not long ago, people are watching, and they're that the polar bear exhibit. And do it don't do going to. No. Let's be lunch time with the. The little. Yeah, we're gonna go ahead and just kill is gonna have done for lunch for. All right. So the people at the zoo, are, like, oh, no little dog, and the kids are being nature. Make up some nice. All wrong sauce for them, of course, in the wild Verster, the polar was good just an in, you know, polar bear country. There's not duck. He's just like, hey, this is right? Yeah. Every time I go to the zoo that doesn't happen. I want that to happen, right? It's probably a little traumatic for the kids. And I would think so. Yeah, so all right. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three we got more madness coming up from AO, see and Chris Cuomo, and you name it. There's madness coming pack released. Great on. Nisha. Extreme triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three also Pat unleashed on Twitter pats otest facial group customer tweets, you can't drag Jeffey away from selene Dion. You have to haul him away on a flat bed. No actually takes a crane usually two to lift him. And then you don't want to tear up the road put him in a flatbed, right? Because right. 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I'm not gonna sing it. But yes, they're they're fairly hip o linzie stir fairly Phillies for the Olympic sterling's, pretty good. Oh, yeah. Sterling, she's good. Yes. She's fantastic. Yeah. Right. So glass night LES she converted years, maybe twenty years ago. Yeah. Gladys Knight performance Lake City with the Motown all the time, all its former tabernacle choir the pips for her kind of. Yes. Kind of. All right. Let me tell you about express VPN for about sixty seconds. Most of us just believe I guess, cybercrime is something that happens to other people, you might think nobody wants your data or that hackers can't grab your passwords or credit card details. But you'd be wrong if that's feel stealing data from unsuspecting people on public wifi. That's what they do. It's one of the simplest and cheapest ways for hackers to make money. But now there's express VPN this is fantastic. They secure my all my devices. They should be securing yours. 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I have not gotten used to the. Still raising every day. Okay. Well, there's more she wanted to pay raise. She's only making one hundred seventy four thousand dollars a year for thing on that poor thing. I don't know happy at Nancy Pelosi for pulling that, Bill. She's not happy here. She is fighting for that raise good for you AOC do it. Why there's so much pressure to turn to lobbying thumbs into cashing on member service after people. Because precisely of this issue. So it mean be politically convenience and it may make you look good in the short term for we're not voting for pain creases. But we should be fighting for pain pieces for every American worker, should be fighting for a fifteen dollars minimum wage peg to everybody in the United States with the salary with, with the wage gets a cost of living increase members of congress retail workers. Everybody should get a cost of living increases to accommodate the chickens Narcan, EMMY, and then we don't, if only increases the pressure on members to split loopholes, like insider trading polls to make it on the back of so. So much making one hundred seventy four thousand dollars a year. This is about you try to get a raise. It's not about average Americans making fifteen bucks an hour. It turns out around. I'm okay with her making fifteen bucks. An hour. Lutely, you'll head you can make that fifty bucks an hour. I mean think about it. What, what else does she qualify for? Congratulations. You're qualified to be congressman, and we, we need to raise, and we need more money, otherwise, we're going to take the we're going to take the people who are willing to pay us extra money to do bad things. Yeah, we're gonna we're going to become lobbyists. Okay. She's doing. I'm okay with that to that. I dunno problem with. Here's how raising her wage will help raise Americans wait. Okay. Here's. And so my whole side of it is, like may not be optics. It may not be great optics like. You know, whatever. Could use it as a political. Cost of living, all American workers. Wait, again, she's making the case for her pay raise but turn to throw other Americans in on the bargain. Well, obviously, if I be bad optics. But, but what about how it looks? What about that? Maybe that opti it may look bad. Searching. Used something else. Something else here. It made you look bad. It may not be. It'd be not be great optics. Optics, great op day, award, great up Dick's or might not look, look good either know that too. It might not look good. And it might not be bad optics, or wait. It is bad upticks. It might be it might not look good. Either. It could be both. But yeah, I think it's both. I think it's bad optics, and it looks bad, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't get more money. Plus, there they vote on raise his right. So it's, it's not the Kip, we'll give themselves the next congress. A pay raise where she expects to be for a long time. I thought the rumor headed she was gonna run against Schumer. I saw some ruler shoe. They were laying the groundwork for her to be Senator though, not in twenty twenty twenty one I don't know, the dates, I just know that I saw I saw the headline of, oh my gosh. She having trouble making rent in that new luxury apartment for. Disposal cost extra. If you want to. But I love how she just kind of tux in there in every American needs a raise, you know, she tries to make it sound like no I'm asking for everyone. Not just me. Yeah. You can't do anything about that. That's not your job to get Americans pay raises. I mean, I guess you create the environment with businesses could do that. But the congress has no ability to do that. Gonna do you can't install a federal minimum wage, but that, that only affects workers that are at start up jobs, really, you know, the right? That, that's just really bad congress to institute, a pay cut. Why don't you guys vote on up yet cut until you guys can balance the budget. You don't get pay raises you could pay cuts. Okay. Or you don't take a salary until you can balance the budget. You guys, don't how much could we save? Don't make me do Keith math. What is a hundred seventy four thousand? Okay. I think say about eighteen. Thirty five. What does senators make the same? Yeah. They both they do okay. One seven four zero. Care, the one times what we do. Five thirty five here you save ninety three million dollars. I mean, I know it's a drop in the bucket, but boy, it would say a lot, and it would also probably insure you guys get reelected. But you won't serve you won't do public service for free. What does it say that she's shoes wanting that raise fighting for it? But the person she hates the most devil, Trump doesn't take the Bill celery. I'm so glad you bring that up. We keep for every time when we have a discussion like this always forget that the man is not taking a salary. Does he get credit for it in the media Barack Obama if he didn't take a salary for eight years? Oh my gosh. That would be leading every newscast for eight years, believe, he's the first president since George Washington, not to accept the salary, which is amazed at Syria's, you know, Washington turned down twenty five thousand a year in seventeen he was elected in ninety one in seven in ninety and started serving anyone he so in, in seventeen ninety and ninety one twenty five thousand a year. Good money that was you're like a millionaire. Any said. No. And, you know, he lost a lot of money during the war. He wasn't making money while he was the general. There was no way to and congress couldn't afford to pay any of the army, and even him he suffered a lot. Check this out couple more didn't take salaries JFK. Oh, JFK doesn't salary. Man ever sworn in as president giving. I didn't know that either. Yeah. He maintained the practic- I gave celery. He gave it to charity. And then Herbert Hoover estimated to be worth four million in nineteen thirteen divided most of his president celery between various charities, so we could use a valid Hoover. Great. Now those were the days man. Yeah. Hoover. Not exactly. One of the greats, not not one of the great, but we could use. I don't know for what but not for president. Yeah, he was good outside of president. Hate Missouri, and their last abortion clinic in Saint Louis. The final hope for abortions in Missouri. Gets to stay open. We've been to kill babies in Missouri with the people that live, like, say in Kansas City, on the other side of the state. Do they still have to travel all the way to say Lewis to get an abortion? The do Jeffey talking about hardship. I know my no. The only abortion clinic in Missouri. Can stay open after Saint Louis. Judge issued a preliminary injunction saying the state must make an official decision on the facility's license before it can be reviewed women's healthcare, and abortion provider. Planned Parenthood sued misery. Of course, to stay open. And now so far, they are, in fact, still open. So the baby killings will continue the great state of Missouri, for at least the time being. That was a close one. They didn't have that ability. I don't know that they can function as a state more. Anymore. Yeah. You gotta show for business. Just turn it off. Just turn off the state. If you don't have to portion clinic in it. Another story I absolutely love hundreds of illegal aliens from the Congo are being dumped here in Texas. And that's good because they've had a massive bullet break. And so now we got a bunch of Congo ones can Goldens Congolese? Goes on there being dropped off in San Antonio weight of all the states in this union, the one that had to deal with the Bulla already us, Texas. We're having guys show up that, that from a place where a bullet is rampant. Can we just sit him to more formula? It's only it's only spreading faster than it spread in the last twenty years, or whatever this is a bad outbreak there. And so it's good to know that some of those some of those people who may be infected are coming where they're supposed to go. That's a comfort. That's my question. They're supposed to come here here, not here. I think is the answer. But we just had another story and a bullet ridden areas of Congo. Isis is taking over. That ends. Well, let's go to turn out well with Ebola. Yeah. But it's only a group of about three hundred fifty from the Congo that are arriving in San Antonio. And the next little while. No. We don't know that fact we don't know that. So don't even worry about it. But. Boy, I'm sorry now after being placed in San Antonio. They are bused to a destination of their choice by local charities. To choose. Yeah. Yeah. So they could come to Dallas, if they want to have a bullet before we, they're not going to Missouri, because there's only one place to get an abortion. Thank you, not going there. Maybe. We need to start a boycott, Missouri to campaign as the only one of one. Despicable despicable. I wanna know how long you can be exposed to a bullet before you show signs. Good question. I don't I don't know what the action period between two and twenty one days, it's going to be between two and twenty one days, twenty one days. Yeah, I'd say Brown two days to on the outside three weeks. So we're just I'm sure we're keeping them, you know, Corentin until we get past just to make sure. Well, yeah. I mean look, the optics might be. But how does it look? Yeah. That's what I'm concerned about how does it look? I mean you can talk optics all day if you want. I'm talking about how it looks okay? If you actually left him in quarantine for twenty one days, then the press would be like, oh my gosh, the conditions. So deplorable, how could lock them up and quarantine? Why there's no win situation. That there's no winning this. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three Ninety-three Glennon Tanya started real estate agents I trust for a really simple reason years ago, and that's to help you sell your home for top dollar as quickly as possible, because they had the opposite of that occur several times, and especially the home, they sold in Connecticut just sat there from longtime before they lost at ton of money on it. It's like it was never going to sell. We really did we thought they might just have to give it to somebody else here. This is our gift to you. Congratulations, brand new house. So what they found as they put together this network of agents is that, you know, because selling and buying a home is so complicated. And it's a tough process. 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That'd be really for striding for them. You imagine like any other? I'm trying not to be one. Dial. If you're gonna end up at one. Yeah, I mean by the time it connects you've already had the baby. Fortunately. There's some people battling this. There's a homework gap. Now that shows millions of students. Lack home internet. Yeah, no computer or internet at home raising provide them work there. Reagan birds homework assignments present a nightly challenge. How much can she get done using just her smartphone? Can you imagine this chicken get done by using just her sweater? I thought this was, you know, industrial age nation. I thought we were kind of hightech fairly, not Mr. on the tiny screen. Reagan switches between web pages for research projects, losing track of tabs, whenever friends and send messages. You're not you're not able to turn off the notifications. Right. Right. And do the. The. It's impossible. There's no way to do it. It's like the metric system. She uses her thumbs to tap out school papers. But when Lynch's keep her from submitting assignments electrically can't just write them out by hand. By what is this China in the nineteen forties? Caves russia. What is the middle ages? What is going on? Reagan said at least I have something instead of nothing to explain the situation. Really good point. Reagan really, well, put she has something instead of nothing to explain. But how does it look? What are the one of the things anybody? Okay, we've talked about the optics and how it looks but how do people view it? That's what I wanna know. Right. How do people view it? That's the question we've not gotten to the bottom of this morning. She get this. She is among nearly three million students around the country who face struggles keeping up with their studies because they must make do without home internet. Oh. Again. What is this Madagascar so nowhere because meta Gaskell, even has internet. Right. So it's not I'm confused though. So she's using the internet. Yes. On the phone, right? But she small screen Jeffey home internet, hotspot over that would cost more money because you turn your phone into a hot spot. Get this it, what's become known as the homework gap. An estimated seventeen percent of US students do not have access to computers and eighteen percent. Don't have home access to broadband, internet. It's dial up. I thought the Lombi tried fix this. A long time ago. Thank you. She's from the paper tried of North Carolina. Right. Bless your heart. Thank you have two children, Kinney moved or from boy. My oldest is transferring student to Ewing. CPI umbro. Right. And Isaac is in the eighth grade at Peterberg middle school Jakup, but most families. The state don't have access to hus- speed internet or who can't afford afford it. We were stuck with dollop service in your home until two months, two months ago feel that this my family my son's in particular. A severe disadvantage severe. It is. It's catastrophic. Is it depends on the internet, the complete his assignments for school? There you go. There you go. He often uses the internet to work on reports projects often at times, often research research on porn and watched him struggle residual. The dial up service through and observed him get frustrated because it could not on the web, what was the optic of it? She did observe it. But I wonder what the optic of that. What do you think it look like? Like he likes does need needed to do seemingly easier. Some that's took him hours to complete dole say that. That is very disheartened to watch Honey got very upset discouraged and frustrated. I'm surprised you didn't turn to hard drugs, and maybe he did. Try that now has high speed internet. Can't just invite all these kids at seventeen percent over to homework. Exactly because he could not do what he needed to do. Like like as a mother. Right. My heart and causes me to feel to feel that I have failed him someway miserably, failed him nuts. Miserably failed should be totally ashamed trying now. No, for Rondo Locklear. I'm pissed off because he's a failure failure. Yeah. You can't serve porn like he likes. At least at least Reagan in the story earlier wins enough to use a pencil and paper. Right. Right. All right. We haven't figured out how to do the optics on this, or, or figure out the way it looks, but we can do something about the audio, you know, and maybe the way it sounds by getting the wax out of your ears. And there's a great way to do that at home for a lot less than a doctor. Visit would cost you wax Rx. It uses physician developed technology safely, effectively removes erects build up then Susan ears with a ph conditioned formula now you can use wax Rx without a prescription ice. Go to whacks Rx, use weks dot com. 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Here's what he had to say in his drug and do state. Let's find out. Giving. Crowder's mazing. Is to Jeffey fat. Truth hurts. That's not really funny. You were laughing. You know it's funny. I mean I I'm not sure. Record that just to be part of the state with the family, right on a share them. No, you have to share. Yeah. You have to have to. That is mandatory. Meanwhile, Justin Trudeau, who is on a big plastics ban kick good because we need to be thanks killing the earth out of, you know, that I do know that, okay. It's choking it. And okay, so we want to ban plastic bags planning things more than worst, run, plastic right? Yeah. Water bottles. So I don't know what you'd put the water in. If you're not using recycled. Tell us how his family doing. All right. Well, here here's he was asked a question about the plastic span. And and what he's doing here. It is. Back on. We, we have recently switched to drinking water bottles out of water out of when we have water bottles out of out of sorts. Sorry. Awards paper what? Fox water. What? Wait. What you look like. So you've switched plastic. No not. This. You know the paper where we're using paper this. I mean bottles. Congratulations AFC who thought it could be done. Someone looks dumber than you today. Getting while we see that again. Pat grace here, it is brilliant. What do you do to cut back? We. We instantly switched drinking, drinking water water water. Water bottles out of plastic. Classic paper, paper and everything like such as. Okay. Per box waterboarding per box. Thing, the box water thing. Paper boxes filled water. We all love so Kroger. When you go to the Kroger their water, there is there are you serious? Yeah. There's water. Yeah. And it's made out of you know like. You know, like a milk, carton or whatever. No. Okay. I don't know what I'm talking about. First time I've never seen that. Yeah. I will say that it's, it's not everywhere you don't have people. Gosh, it's boxed water is better. Yeah. But it's not his stupid. No, he knows what he's talking about lying. No. He hasn't done a thing. One thing. What do they call the things that we don't use probably we should because I'm a hypocrite? You know, the things the paper juice box took him twenty five seconds to pull that out recently started using what the plastic bottle water. You know, we started drinking water out of water. What one point? That's what he said. We recently started drinking the water out of water. The water. Good. You're, you're drinking, the water right? Out of the water of the water. So I see the water comes in a water container. I you drink the water container than you know. Okay. Interesting. Now the other way you drink the water then the water continue their out of it. Right. That guy. So this is like it edible plate, then we're right? Water container holding water, right? Yeah. All right. Okay. Yeah. He thought it he thought it up quick, zero. Yes. My dear, there's a light on this tree that won't light on one side. So I'm taking it home to my workshop idear. It's the Grinch thinking up the lie and thinking it up quick. That's unbelievable so bad. The you know, I. You know, I, I mean we've done a lot of stuff, we're doing so many things that we've done in my household. I can't remember them all give me one. Well, like the, you know, the thing we're we've, we're doing the thing where you get rid of the well, we, we drinking out of plastic. No. Drinking water. So we're doing with boxed water. I love it. He's had a fairly there is there is water. And I see that out there. And in fact, I have one on the top Murph ridge Reiter, that someone bought me a long time ago. Yeah. Water water like Armageddon supplies, sitting there for any reason he's up for reelection in October, by the way, Canada, don't screw this year. Well, wow, will dizzy still look good. What are the obvious? I think if you view after was quick to answer that question he was good looking man. He he's screwed up a lot, socialist. Good. He's a moron. Yeah. And it's embarrassing that he's a world leader. That's embarrassing. He probably will probably will because that's the way the world is going, right? Triple eight nine hundred thirty three Ninety-three interesting. Little ranking here about the states where you can have the most fun. I don't think I've ever seen most funds list over fun. Yeah. Where do the most cool things these states offer of riot act of activities and. Them. They range from movie costs to excess ability of national parks to casinos per capita. Oh, well, I mean, that's a weird measurement. But will they funded this study? Yeah. Probably probably. So who, would you think is the most fun state in the United States of America? Well off top my head. I'd say Florida, okay. They're number two. Yeah. California obviously, never of California, and Florida, they've got all the, you know, they have all the great amusement, parks and casinos, casinos, other, yes, New York was third followed by Washington, Colorado. I guess, for skiing, Nevada for gambling courses you can have a lot of casinos per cabinet there. Minnesota Pennsylvania, Oregon and Texas, rounds out the top ten. Now, Hawaii, which I think is kind of fun. Hawaii got like twenty fifth twenty fifth and then I love this, because, but that's also accessibility though. Right. Maybe that's to have. So maybe, maybe that's what drives him down so far. But the states who always do poorly in every single poll study or survey or the bottom of this list to Mississippi at forty nine they're just not fun. There's nothing. Mississippi is prettier than you give it credit for those of driven through a couple of times it was like, really into list of the prettiest. Well, if you try man, it looks good and number fifty and West Virginia. Oh, I guess, coal mining. Just isn't fun. Now, you see, Hugh sales people walk in local here like, oh. It's not for me. No. All right. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three we're going to talk to Paul kanga about his new book in just a second here. I let me take sixty seconds to tell you about patriot mobile. Most of us could afford to donate to the political and social causes. We believe in our money's tight up. You know, putting food on the table, keeping your roof over our head paying mortgage and paying for the utilities, what like cellphones, for instance in every month you give money to the major carriers. Then they give your money to left wing causes the promote abortion, sanctuary cities. They take away your gun rights and censorship will patriot mobile is the only phone company that does the opposite. They believe in the same America you do. And that's why thousands of blaze listeners viewers have made the switch. 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Yeah, it was back in twenty seventeen. And in fact, this book, the divine plan is basically a follow up to that. And with what, yeah, yes. So, so what, what happened was we did a pope in a president in twenty seventeen hundred anniversary of the Bolshevik revolution, the Fatima stuff, right? The stuff that happened with Fatima. We've talked about that on the air. And, and so that book inspired filmmaker Robert Orlando to do a documentary film on Reagan, John. Paul, the second, call the divine plan. In fact, so that film will be out this fall, the thirtieth anniversary of the collapse of communism and, and. Yeah. And, and it had there was he interviewed fourteen people for that film. And there was so much great material. I mean everybody produced. Like twenty pages of transcripts of interviews. And you know how this goes right for a documentary film, you can use about two minutes. Everybody says. Yeah. So, so, so we said the publisher of a pope and of president said it would it'd be great if we could publish this as a book, right? Take some of the divine plan film documentary stuff and spin it off into a companion book. And so this book that we released this week, the divine plan is basically a companion book to that film, or, and, and it's really about how Ronald Reagan and John Paul, the second sort of combined to help end the Cold War. Right. I mean that's right. That's right. Yeah. And then we're back they were both nearly assassinated in nineteen Eighty-one, what six weeks, apart, something like that. Six weeks apart and the and the cover art for the book is really, really dramatic. They, they have like two bullet holes railway above the two men while they're shaking hands. And, and it was yeah, it was March thirtieth, nineteen eighty one that Reagan was shot. And then it was may thirteenth nineteen Eighty-one, the John Paul, the second was shot, and everybody people who live through it like like you. And I and I mean, we I was buoyed how old was, I think fourteen years old at the time, but, but everybody remembers that, that, that those two were shot, but everybody forgets today is it was only six weeks apart and, and they both believed. I mean, you would think, of course, the pope would think this way, but maybe not a president, although Reagan was much more religious, and everybody thought, but, but they, they believe that God had spared their lives for this divine purpose. According to this divine plan, they both use that language. They, they came together. They met a year later at the. Again, in June nineteen eighty two and they said the one another that they believe that God had spared their lives for special purpose, which was the take down and defeat, atheist, Soviet communism. And so, so this new film documentary. And this new book, the divine plan goes through all of that, and it also considers just the it's deeper philosophical feel article kind of deep dive into what, what is the divine plan for for history for people's lives for individuals? Because I think everybody has some, some sort of the sense that why am I here? Right. And if you'll this question that you Manley is ever asked is, is there a divinity out there and if so how's it shaping my ends, what, what is my plan? And so, even in this modern morally relativistic, secular age, and west and, and in America, you still have people, you know, even in liberal states like California where you now. The pretty the, the largest spiritual group that's growing probably witches and of all things, right. But you but you still have people thinking of themselves. I know there's something out there, right? What, what, what is it do I do I have a plan, do I ever divine plan, and, and these guys, Ronald Reagan, John Paul, the second, both former actors felt that way on this, this international stage of life in the nineteen eighties. So they did actually conspire together for lack of a better term conspired together to try to bring down the Soviet Union. They've actually discussed this. Yeah. And it's quite amazing. You think about all the history here is so Ronald Reagan turn to John. Paul the second at the Vatican June nineteen eighty two their meeting alone in the Vatican library for about an hour and the, the non polish non-catholic, president turns to the to the Polish Catholic, pope and Reagan said to him hope remains in Poland in your country. He said, we working together can keep it alive. And they pledged at that point to do whatever both sides, could the Reagan White House and the Vatican to keep alive. The solidarity movement Lek wall Lhasa as the wedge, that could that could take down the iron curtain. That could be drawn into the could be pounded into the communist bloc. And right now, we're having this conversation last week. Everybody noted that, oh, June fourth nineteen eighty nine. This is the thirtieth anniversary of Tiananmen Square. Perec everybody. Forget. That just within hours after TNN square, June fourth nineteen eighty nine Poland held free and fair elections. And that was supposed to happen at Yalta, right? Nineteen forty five. And so those, those were the first free and fair elections and the communist bloc, but Mikhail Gorbachev would even say when, when that happened in Poland. I knew that, that threatened the entire break-up of the socialist bloc. I mean, that was like, lighting a fuse that would run all the way to the base of the Berlin Wall which, which blew up in November of eighty nine but everybody forgets that it was the elections in Poland, I the Reagan John Paul, the second worked to try to make happen. They're really led to audibly to the breach in the iron curtain. We're talking with bestselling author and political science professor, Paul can gore. Paul can you believe in light of everything that happened with the Soviet Union with, with bringing down the wall with winning the Cold War, and all of the subsequent changes that have happened in the world that we would be at a place now where college campuses? Elected officials are turning the socialism now. I mean what is going on sadly, Pat? Yeah, I can. And, and it's because I I've seen this coming for a long time. And, and I remember in fact, probably you and I and Glenn back when we were talking about that book, the communists back was that twenty twelve twenty thirteen and we were talking about the failure to teach this stuff in schools. Right. How, how bad the public schools are how bad that universities are? I mean, I've been getting a speech for Young America's foundation back to the nineteen nineties called why communism is bad where where I travel around to different campuses, that I've got college, Republican groups begging me to come there and explain to students on campus. Why communism is bad. They allow you on campuses. Well, it's, it's funny, I have a long conversation about this. But, but I all go, go to these classrooms. It'll be packed with students there won't be a single professor there. In fact, one of the only times there was a professor there, it was a professor who was, it was an emigre from Poland, if you he was in the engineering or he told me he was the only Republican that he knew of on a faculty of, like one hundred twenty people because he seen fruits of, of communism, he understands that's where you're going to get, you know, that's where you're gonna get like minded people is when they come from the Soviet bloc, and they understand what we're up against here told him to I said, do you feel intimidated on campus? He said he said, look, I survive, communism. I don't care what they say about me, right? Afraid the words of John Paul the second, but, but think about this. Alex Andrea Causey. Oh, Cortes if I'm right about this off the top of my head. I think she was born in nineteen eighty nine right guys. I think so look it up. Think so because she's very close to thirty now. Yes. So when when when when elections are being held in Poland, she's in her mother's womb. She she she's in. She's an infant when the Berlin Wall comes down if she was even born yet I think she was born about the time of the Berlin Wall came down. So they, they have no memory of, you know, forget Reagan and John. Paul, the second Gorbachev probably can't even spell gulag probably what that is. And then and then to be handed over to the public schools. And then our wretched horrible universities. Learn none of that there. And as we talked about in the past. Sometimes the only thing that they learned about the Cold War, if there's a bad, Joe in the Cold War, it's not Joe Stalin, Joe McCarthy. Right. Right. Cold war. Oh, Joe McCarthy was bad about the core rate, which stuff McCarthy. Talk about communism. That's that's when you start blacklisting people and shutting taking people's free speech right McCarthy afar. Theism. The other thing that's the other thing, that's interesting to note is, you know, when you think of John Paul, the second is boy. We have a different situation in this pope. Now, don't we? Do completely different field sprint completely different. And, and I, I won't pick on Donald Trump here and saying this. But I think it's just a key point with Reagan, John Paul, the second you had two guys that sought almost completely alike. Right. I they could check the box commonality on probably nine out of ten issues, and I can't even say we'll be the one where they disagreed. I mean, they, they, they shared completely this this worldview. They both believe if you ask both of them, what's the greatest threat to the world without hesitation, they would have said, atheist, Soviet communism, and then they had this incredibly unique Bonn, where they were both almost the SAS innate within six weeks of each other. And I remember when Donald Trump went and visited with pope Francis. This was just a few months into his presidency and, and kudos to Trump for, for doing that reaching out. I of presence he goes to the Vatican, and I was not surprised. Is that they got along? Well, and the liberals were saying, oh, this is gonna be a dogfight. They're going to be at each other's throats fell them. You're not a Christian. Right. And and and you know, Francis didn't do that. He you know, he was Mercifully was gracious. They got along. But even then if someone would pull them side and said, hey, both of you right down on a card here what you think are the top five threats to the world. And then they you'd write them, they'd write them down. And you look and say you guys haven't picked anything that you agree on right Francis. It might have been. Oh, ecology, the envir- warm, right? And Trump might have been immigration. And but, but they're just completely opposite of the pope, by the way compete wants us. Right. Right. And, and I and I do understand how the pope sees the world. He he has a Catholic church Catholic means universal. So he's got this church literally, without borders, and if he sees migrants escaping the Middle East. He just wants countries to take him in. But at the same time, he's gotta understand that nations and presidents have constitutions. Right. They have national security of boards, nations have borders. There's only so many people you could take in, so, and I and Francis has said that on occasion that he does understand the countries have to look at this differently than he does. Right. Right. Right. But, but the clearly it's, it's a shame that right now, you don't have a pope in a president that, that have a sort of commonality of purpose, they could unite to defeat whatever the, you know, the crucial international enemy is that you had in Ronald Reagan, and John Paul the second. And of course, Reagan, John Paul, the second saw that as part of the divine plan, they believed that, that God had shaped their purposes and their lives to bring them together at that point in the nineteen eighties. The divine plan is the name of the book John Paul, the second, Ronald Reagan, and the dramatic end of the Cold War. Where can people pick this up? Yeah. Go to Amazon dot com, and there's also a website, the divine plan movie dot com did by claim movie dot com. Thank you for she ate it. Nice job on this and as always, great work. We'll see you tomorrow on Patrie unleashed.

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226. A Total Letdown

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226. A Total Letdown

"Dum so he and so sorry. Sorry i've been running and having a sausage sandwich. Presumedly running very slowly. None of us want to imagine you'll see some have lots of sauce on it. It was delicious. thank you very much. July brown suit tomato ketchup. I had sausage onion chutney tomato ketchup or do like onions out an americano more milk. So you're very nice by did but this was because i'd had to run and i promessi wasn't just like a sausage sandwich for no good reason. So you have sustained yourself. You are ready for the fray though in a way even though you think well there is lots of news around. I actually don't find the suspect brilliant newsweek. so we've got we're going to talk about the tier announcements free trade agreement or lack of it. Something fishy going on there. I think get it. We'll talk about sa- philip green and the imminent apparent collapse of his retail empire. The death of diego. Maradona nicholas sturgeon on independence And i'm going to ask listeners for the nominations for best bits of twenty twenty because every christmas while this is only the third one obviously but we like to do a best stove. Don't we liked to do a world to do at christmas predictions or something. Yes are people of the year but that might be slightly different might at the sierra. We allowed to say anything about my own. No we know not the moment but we we. We have a nice surprise. Because and i might be in. Your is a bit more over christmas. Oh he says tantalizingly. Nobody lovely things in your stocking. You could get into my stockings in now. I'm not going to stay next history. So shall we get started on brandon. Lewis i listened to the podcast very good question so the big political news of the week i guess it really has to concern coronavirus with the christmas arrangements being announced on the tearing arrangements being announced lots together teeth into that. Let's start off with christmas. The more i think about it the more. I think it's the wrong decision that they've come to. I think they followed public opinion. They followed the agenda of the tabloid or mid market newspapers. And i think they're going to live to regret it. I think in the middle of china railroad to the end of january. The will mean there will be another national lockdown. But don't you a little bit your little you in sort of two minds on this as we soaring on good morning britain on e. slightly. Well yeah because your bit lax. Only your missed angry from tunbridge wells when it comes to the comes to the tears but then when it comes to christmas you want everything to be super strict. No i think the two different things The i have no problem with tears. I think it might have been better to have done. What nicholas sturgeon has done more tears rather than ninety three. Because it's a bit ridiculous when when you've only got cold war and the are silly and the olive y in the i hear it bother makes that a auden and you look at some of the places that have got very low infection rates want. They entail now. The only moldovan for example. Well or here. The only reason i can think. And there's a bit about this in the papers. Today is the really worried about hospital capacity in some areas so some areas have been put into a high tea at not because of the infection rate. But because i worried about the hospital capacity now. I don't know whether it would be a good idea for them to admit that or not Let's be fair. they do. They have something like five criteria for deciding which tier in one of them. They've been very clear about ese hospital capacity so they have said that explicitly alongside things like the not just the full but the rate of increase of infection and and the level and forget what else but there are a couple of other things but the the main thing i think is the if people don't consider a system fair they abide by the rules of the system. You have to buy into it to really make it work. I think they are going to be. We already know in the so-called national lockdown that we're in the middle of at the moment the traffic on the roads is higher than it would have been on a normal. I think and. I think we're all these people going shopping. What what are they doing on the rights all the time so i think even in tier three. I don't think it particularly in areas like this where people just cannot see While you've got tunbridge wells three just over the border and he sussex's here to you. Got village groombridge next door while about fifty miles away from where i'm not my am now. Well one pub in the village has close on december. The second and the other one can stay open now. I know there will always be that when were borders. But it is a bit incongruous that you have a a huge area the size of kent all in one tier mainly because one small part of it. The north kent coast medway towns. They they all the areas of the highest infection in the whole country and yet nobody really from this area goes there. It's not it's just not not an area. There isn't a lot of sort of intermixing it's really. It's really too much into mixing in some of them townhouses but that's another thing too. Gay comedy trees too often on the show. I can tell you. I used to work with lots of people from the ship. E yeah worked on a cross-channel ferry that went for ns. Jackie smith the triangle is that it was it was. It was an interesting cultural experiment because the first year all of the crew of finish and the the the sailing crew finishing the sort of person stewards which is another word for cleaner which i was. We're all english. And the fins used to out drink us by an absolute mile. Then the next year the ships were upgraded and all of the sailing crew would german and they were all extremely german. Shot me too. Slow to serve racist ordered sensible way everything has its place. The brits that with the with a sort of ball star and the cleaners and that type being promoted to work in the shop by the. I think i've mentioned with middle but i was also nineteen and i have to say i was not the only one who didn't get a lot of sleep and did quite often king. Because you've got off cheap booze from the crew bombs and Anyway a paid well. There was a lot of drinking and there were good looking german sailors so were what was not to like about a summer holiday job to be honest with you on them. I'm not sure it comes as a great surprise that the finns heavy drinkers kisses. Bugger allows to do evening anyway. But it's a little rhody corporate trans Let me come back to christmas. Because i took you away from christmas and i i feel unusually. I'm sort of concord. Make up my mind about christmas. Because i'm a bit of a because i'm very much looking forward to spending christmas day with my sisters and my mom bought. Jeez to that you call. It's too early in the morning and you haven't turned this happened and this is really pisses me off about them. They send you. These alerts nothing to do with news. It says no hugging singing or board games. How to have a covid save christmas. That isn't news. That's comment if they think that. I'm going to be prevented from playing a board game over christmas. I've got another thing coming. Thought board game is exactly what you do need to do because you can sit quite far apart from each other playing a board game county. Do love a game of trivial pursuit. I most board games. I do not enjoy. But i do love a game of trivial pursuit but yours competitive as i am. I'm utterly competitive. In fact it will ruin my christmas. If i did win i would be throwing those little those little slices across the room the the other one that i used to like Which we used to play university law scruples that you'd get moral dilemmas and you had. I can't remember exact little cards with things on you. Had to say what you would do. It can get very very upsetting for some people that game. I seem to remember you played played cards. Not really no do like a good game of cards. You see my my ex. Husband is a big card player. And i was always. I'm so many ways. I was a disappointment to him. But i never for example could lend breed joel was particularly interested. In card playing rec- we grew up in a real code playing family and we would have family whist drives and my dad and i would go to village with drives. This is when i was at school. would go all over the area sometimes three or four nights a week and playing with strives. I love a game of west and that that then led onto bridge and my history teacher crossing us in the sixth form. We used to play bridge every lunchtime. And he taught his that. And i've i've remembered how to play. Ever since when i lifted in docklands in the one thousand nine hundred ninety s In one of these yuppie blocks of flats we formed a little bridge club. There believe it or not but they haven't really played much since. But what when i retire I do want to take up bridge again because it is the most fantastic game but my my grandmother was a brilliant card player. She taught us all sorts of games. Like pontoon gin rummy. Used to play lovely one which we will cease to play when we were of school. Ill spider venom and venom. Sounds like myself a game and the other one which it turned out we found out was the queen. Mother's favorite card game was one called racing demons. And that you you each have your own pack of cards in there and you sort of throw an ace into the middle of the table. And then it's nice of spades in somebody else's go to space in the little rover cars. They have to slam that on the top and it can get very violent and i remember a few years ago playing with my two. There's about eight of playing and it honestly does your head in one seventy playing and i remember my one of my nieces. He must have been about eight or nine slammed card on top just before. I was going to just yelled at her. You f ing bitch about eight. It didn't make her cry. Her mother thought it was very funny. Responsible mother review our sons into vouch to be fair. Probably rightly anyway. We've gone off off off the westerly twelve minutes in wait. Okay law going to do a quick. I'm going to do a question because it is just. It will take us back to where we should be so h says all you both is amazed as i am at the number of expert. Virologists nicodeme eulogists professors. In human behavior in public health are in the uk a different one pops up on tv and radio. Every day and their best advices quotes. Don't mix at christmas. You'll give your granny housing karenni. I'd quite like some stats on this avenue. One in one hundred chance of dying or is it more like one hundred thousand. H ye big mistake here is to imagine the ian i in an i have actually got any hard facts. Were to back up our opinions so we haven't got any idea. But i think you're right that the certain loss of experts and unfortunately the general view led by chris with t. Appears to be. You can have christmas but you can't have any fun older any hugging with any. Yeah i think that's about right clear. It seemed clear from the press conference the other day that he really didn't like the idea that they've done this at christmas and he'd draw that they hadn't but do you agree with me that the decision was effectively led by the fact that while they just had to do it. They couldn't face the backlash if they did anything different. I think given the backlash that they're facing from conservative. mp's over the tiers tier lockdowns and given. I suspect that some of the behavioral device might well have been people are going to get together every christmas anyway. They probably thought we stand a better chance of holding the line. If we free it up for five days over christmas then also people to sort of closed down again in january. You may well be right that it might lead to a spike in january. I don't know About that but also by that point. I'm quite optimistic. That we may have started the covert vaccination program so hopefully we'll be beginning to get to a position where we can provide some protection for those people who are the most susceptible to this because they're clearly going to be the first people who are going to get the vaccine. I mean it's a really difficult. I would prefer them to have done. Maybe two days and two families. I think they've just gone too far but they they could quite rightly argue. That will go by your maximum that people to buy into. If they're going to obey it they wouldn't have abated. It's happening is a valid argument But i do think they're going to read the decision. Come january I still wonder whether people gain to bay anyway. All bubba or whichever one is impressed. No dude dude is impressed. That'll bubba christmas stalk that quite intrigued by a tree when we eventually put it up. I keep trying to persuade jomie up early. The shakers i've been asked by a particular television program to do one of these. Do they know. It's christmas things where i have sing. A line for from maria callas mariah carey. So what so. I don't wanna say christmas in front of the christmas tree what. Tv progresses possibly reveal. It's one on well. Because i've heard you sing anyway. I'm going to be held strictly so f. The lot of you just you on. You hopefully probably fleeting appearance. The group downs. That's junkie at the back anyway. Back to not very disciplined this morning really on people. Yeah but only only tune into this podcast for incisive political with went with twenty minutes. None of that so far really for it. I was just gonna say. Actually one of the things that i saw lost. I was out running today. Because i did run. Not just sausage dog wearing an adorable christmas elf. Jump over say sake. No i have come home with the intention of getting my docs. Some christmas jump. Yes i dog abuse. No it well. What dogs for apart from to a detainee you the friends and companions and because of my friends. I want them to share in the joy of christmas so they need to have a christmas jumper. They normally where the cooter mines. They do wear coats because they oh yet. Because that lurches of flesh on them so come when it starts getting cold. They wear little coats so the quite used to wearing coats. They happy known to wear bandanas. 'cause i've gay. That's what those utah whereabouts donna. No you should do watch. Have we really no. I have to ask you an incisive political question. How big is the rebellion can be next week big. What i don't know guy is if it's voted down what you won't be because labor won't vote against it. If it was voted down. What happens do we just not have any tearing into all it. Everybody makes us to their hearts content. I don't know is an interesting question. Because i'm afraid so not even quite sure how they're doing it. Presumably through regulation. So it's not if it's if it's it must be being done through. A regulation and regulations are take him or leave from. He can't amend them so it's not even as if somebody could say. Actually could we have few of the parts of the country in Lockdown or could we review after a day or something like that. I mean is going to be reviewed. Every fortnight isn't of course so the next reviews the sixteenth of december and it will be interesting to see whether or not the pressure that tori. Mp's are bringing to bear on the matt. Hancock will Bear any fruit. And if they're going to be big changes by the time we get to that point because they're all it does appear. I would say from my experience in my hospital. Trust there is a slowing down of the increase in. There is a slowing down of the numbers coming into hospital. There are still massive pressure on capacity. But it isn't going up the speed at which he was going up previously. Well that's good and when you look at the the alright. She's now apparently just below one throughout the country again. But you see that makes people think well if the all rates below one why is most of the country into three or lots of the country into three There is something that just doesn't quite fit. Because that's how you keep the alright down. Pretty easy answer isn't it. When do we think that what what level should the alright be before. We think we've cracked it. Well it's more than just the ra. As i was saying. I think it's it's what direction. Era is going in how many how many numbers you've got to begin with anyway. What's the pressure on. Your hospital is state How am back to this point about you know some sympathy. Because obviously i mean worcestershire. We were previously entail a one we now in tier two largely. Not because of anything. That's happening around where i am but because of things that are happening actually in my constituency in other parts of north to show so you could argue for sort of cl- a more granular approach to the tears. The trouble with that is as you yourself pointed out there's enough confusion. And incidentally this is the argument against having nichola sturgeon. Set more tears approach to this. It's hard enough to remember what the differences between tae won t to take three as he is let alone if you had more tears. So the communication the simpler and the large the areas. The moonlight people ought to know what the hell's going on even if they're not happy that so many tears. Can i say like what isn't it. no sorry. Excuse my language Everybody isn't everybody. Wants to rule the world. Tis yes every body wounds to. I rest my case. You've ruined my confidence. That was actually quite uniform. And i lost confidence halfway through faded away. I'm going to ask something. I was going to say. something else. Incisively political about matt hancock. Now do we think. Matt hancock has been hung out to dry. I by being given responsibility for the extreme popular announcement about tears or is that just his job and is growing in confidence all declining and confidence because i was having this discussion with patriot boy yesterday evening. I think that is his job to announced the the himal- the prime minister i didn't see who else So i don't see anything about him doing it Is he growing in confidence somewhat. Rela to that question is i think. He's being relatively consistent throughout. I think he had a bit of a wobble. I think he was getting extremely frustrated particularly with the downing street operation at one point but given that that's changed now if you feel that he's increasing confidence. That may be the reason why i think that is. I think that is the reason. Because i think he was beaten quite outrageously briefed against various points during the course of covid crisis and being set up to be a scapegoat. Presumably that was comings and co. That were that were doing. That are now. He does feel probably. I mean to be honest. He's getting used to it. I suppose and now he's feeling confident because that particular irritant is gone from the system Now in terms of where we go from here. Should we talk a little bit about the autumn statement because we recruited wasn't stay podcast before that happened. We did you and there was nothing in the we hadn't really anticipated. I don't think there was no great surprises in it But the foreign aid announcement. I think was the one that slightly dominated things Which we covered on wednesday suit early to rehearse too much now. I think there is going to be another big rebellion allow. I'm not sure they'll be only get that through the commons. So i was wrong because i said i thought possibly she soon. It could briefed both the public sector pay freeze and the cut to foreign aid Then he was going to back off at least one of them and then everybody would go. That bad thing didn't happen and be distracted. He didn't back off over them so There will be around from neighbor about the and the unions about the public sector pay freeze and is quite difficult now. even with a sort of allowance for frontline health workers. I think they'll be plenty of teaches police officers and others who feel a bit cheesed off about that. And of course this argument for well The private sector is suffering so the public sector has to suffer as well even if that were true is a sort of everybody has to have shit argument which never goes down very well. But of course courses pulled johnson from the irs does pointed out actually private sector pay over. The last ten years has risen considerably faster than public sector pay so it's not as if the public sector because of being. Yes yes that's true and so public sector. Workers have not been in clover for the whole of the last ten years so it hasn't quite worked in the other direction unit when it comes to equality between the private and public sector. So that's a row. you know. That's i mean to be honest. They'll get that through. I suspect because they were be rebellion. But i'm i think in the. I think you're right about foreign aid and i've said this before what a shift in the tory party. David cameron should be proud of himself. You know the the number of tories including thank you. Harriet baldwin my mp who have been criticized for this decision. I just think he's a phenomenal turnaround. And the argument has clearly been one with the political elite out a foreign aid but to be fair but what is where she soon doing. He's doing something that is clearly very popular with the public. But sometimes you know there are times when actually you need to lead the public to something that is better for you country's interest exactly. Roy couldn't agree more but i was quite shocked to the opinion. Poll shows eighty three percent to seventeen percent to approve. This and i think that's you can't describe that necessarily as being populous because they have got a all for them now. I don't agree with that but they have some justification for doing our suppose i just think is incredibly disappointing and text. David cameron said. Would you come on and talk about. Yeah well it was more in hoping expectation. But i won't tell you what was in his reply but it was. Shall we say i could tell that. He was slightly tempted but he thought better over it. It was a very fruity reply. Shall we say. I'm not not fruity against me. But so interesting email. It's just come in a downing street of just announced that nadeem hallway is now going to be a health minister as well as being business minister. And he's got direct responsibility for the kobe deployment reporting into matt hancock. Now that's a good thing. Because i do. It is a sort of mixture of departmental responsibility there and he is somebody who can get things done. And he's also somebody he's capable of explaining what he's doing so i think that's a good thing. Yeah and shows you. As i suggested that the whole thing is ramping up. I think we're gonna see a lot of progress quite quickly which will be good. That sounded like a parrot. It's my son laughing. Let's like it when my children are joyful. Outling is quite so much he's looking at. There's also a bit of reshuffles -regulation at the moment isn't that. Oh yes rachel sylvester wrote a column in the times. It's always assign when they've got buck roles to write about jenny. Always right about potential reshuffle. However there is a reason for that because there is going to be on either before christmas or after christmas can we will share the joke. James insects. Can we will share the joke. What you're looking at. None of business entail quite polite him actually write well. She's speculating that Sergey java will become the be the new foreign secretary on the move. He's bessie mates with carrier oversee. She controls the government of the moment. Good i'm dominic. Robb will replace. Michael gave at the cabinet office. I suspect on my bevan issue with that because it s fairly. We did a bit of this wednesday by the way willingess. Yes yep oh but this part. Yeah 'cause you said we said then a microwave was going to be the home secretary. Just always be out. No no not. Just say because it's interesting. Some people of course only listen to saturday. Listen to wednesday calmly boy. They would do that but also to be honest with you. I suspect quite a few of our listeners or basically as of old and slightly losing as we are and therefore they listen. Listen to a podcast. And i forgotten what we said. The thinking is also that then there wouldn't be any woman in the top three positions. Which i'm not sure that boris johnson could really justify their. It's it's difficult to see. Who would be ready to step up into one of the top three positions. I hope he brings penny more than back into the cabinet but he's unlikely to give one of the top jobs. The thinking is that jeremy hunt might come back as education secretary which i think he would be really good at but he would regard that as a bit of demotion from where he was before so that there's a lot of egos game play here. I think we quite difficult reshuffle for boris. Which you've previously commented. He's not very good at getting rid of people making those tough decisions when it comes to individuals so to be fair bit like tony blair was very good reshuffle so It might be interesting and for that reason you right at the end of the term because that tends to be the time people liked to do reshuffles because you do at the end of the parliamentary term. It gives people a couple of weeks to sort of get thinking into the new job before they're going to have to be in front of parliament and it takes people away from the limelight for a while. They're feeling really pissed off at having been demoted. Little fire to ever do you use facebook messenger. Yes if you do you get people that you know sending a message saying is it you in the video. Don't click on the video. Well it's quite easy to do. If you've not thinking about it properly and you get something from someone that you ni- but in some scam or virus or something or other. I've had three of those in the last twenty four hours so just a warning to our listeners. Bill wire So we're not public service burned. Cast here don't we we. We are in so many ways. It has been said before by a few people. I'm mark like jackie. I used to be the government. Chief whip she's go. And i have the gets their own street. Do need a big pair of jugs the free trade deal not so not very much progress there it seems what did you make michelle bonnier saying that he would be prepared to give us fifteen to eighteen. Percent of our fish catch back. Well clearly didn't make of it. What you and other Brexit is made of it. I thought it was an attempt to try to find a way through this stalemate around fishing naught a we all of it. What you about me. Sort of approach. Which i think you were. You would say king i. It's it's one of those you have consistently said they steal is not going to fall down on the basis of fishing. Well it's not been solved yet either. I suppose also the level playing field issue is still around. And that's why they have managed to get to a deal yet but they are utterly running out of time now even now. It's going to require reading the other day. The european parliament to sit probably on something like the twenty eighth of december in order to approve this. All it's going to require a provisionally approved deal. That can come into place on the first of january on the basis that the european parliament will subsequently approve. And that doesn't seem to be very likely to happen. Either of the big problems here in a sort of forget these practicalities in order for it to be approved. There's some parliament the domestic parliaments. That will need to approve it. It needs to be translated into twenty three languages hartley. Not oh well that's good. I was reading the other day. And i've tried to remember where this was that that they're cut that category categorizing in a different way to the canada. While i can't remember the details of it but they reckon that it wouldn't have to go through all the national parliaments. Obviously it's not usual not be done free. Trade deals for a long time. But i'm not sure what the president is for. Trade deals get going through parliament anyway. I'm sure it will do But you could make an argument that will. It's not something. That parliament needs to approve. I don't necessarily think our parliament needs to approve it. But i think there are some other european member parliaments. That need to approve in order for their ministers to be able to approve it. That's what i understood. And the other thing i was saying. Is there a twenty three different languages at least needs to be translated into an. I doubt it'll be a short document once once it's finished so the suggestion seemed to be the unless by next weekend. It's tied down. It's not gonna happen in time so it really it really is. We really are up against the buffers. Now we're if you think about those thirty two days to go until the end of the transition period and in terms of working days. That's probably about fifteen. Yeah and you know this. Christmas decorations be put up everything. If it doesn't happen say one side. Walk away or just isn't possible. What a tremendous failure of statecraft on both sides. That would be. Yes you have to say you have to say it would be on both sides. You can't just say it would. Because i'm sure all of the the fbi p. cult would certainly say. Oh it's all our fault. Well it's not. I mean it takes two to tango here. Although only one wanted to start a tango in the first place. I mean you you often happens in international things it takes to to do to do a deal but we put ourselves in the position where we need to do this deal. And it was supposedly oven ready or according to folks it was going to be the easiest deliver cream and that wasn't the free trade agreement. I mean if you're gonna make that argument at least get the facts. Roy but i thought this was all going to be straightforward. That was what we were told this. Time nas incidentally. I can remember saying to you. Last december way can it be back here next december and that's essentially going to be facing no deal again and i think you poop who'd me in ill will. I was right. Well i don't remember five per you or not. But if i did it was probably because i didn't imagine michel barnier would be doing the negotiation hung. It was always going to be the case that maintaining the single market and the common position of the remaining countries in the u. Is going to be fundamentally important. They say they couldn't have said it more clearly than they did. Well vo console what they like but the truth is that was already a free trade agreement. All we had to do was to take out the bits that both sides wanted to take out that ought not to be as difficult as it apparently is proved to be and the fishing thing. I just do not understand how the eu cannot get it into their heads that we are now an independent nation and an independent coastal state and therefore those waters under international law belong to the uk. And we have always said when we not. We don't wanna cut off access to eu fisher people as as we now call them but but the bonnie's in trying to make out the we're trying to ban eu boats from our waters. Not not not a sausage of truth. Not such as a theme of this podcast. Those no truth in that whatsoever always saying is that we want to be able to negotiate quotas in the same way that they do every year with norway. Now we have to leave. Let me finish. They've also said that we can have a sort of three year transition period into that. So it's not so no. No french fishermen would have to scrap their fleets overnight which seems to be the main hurdle for the french. So i think that's been a degree of flexibility on our side which the other side haven't shown at all and to say that. Oh you will be tiger to keep an extra fifteen percent of the fish catch. Well thank you very much. That's not for you to determine that's roster determine what we session to try to come to an agreement. It's typical arrogance from barnier thinking that they can still dictate terms to us when they're not entitled to do that given that we are now an independent coastal state. Well we managed come to an agreement right and the idea that fishing has never been controversial. When we've had flipping court wars in the past in living memory. You know you can't say all. It's all very very straightforward. Just everybody fish what they want to fish. That ain't what's happened before we have the common fishery policy. I didn't say that at tool you teach you said. It's all very straightforward. He said. I didn't say people can fish what they want to fish. It's for people to negotiate quotas just as they do with norway each year and if you can do with norway. Norway has just as much a bigger area to covers we do. I think i don't see why we should be treated in any different way at all. Not argument against even know. I'm just. I'm so tired of fish and i'm now moving onto the argument even it no. It's not because i've lost the argument. I think i made the argument with my cold war lesion but actually even if we came to an agreement on beginning to now understand why boris wants to increase on navy sides even if we came to an agreement on fish. There are other things as well as stopping this agreement from happening. So it's not only fish. We use we full to be fair even only fool we would only be at fish by this point or more fish would be conceited at this point but that doesn't seem to have been any progress on the other things either. Well let's hope next saturday when we do the podcast. We are much better mood about this. That it's all been sold. I still remain hopeful that it will be. I'm beginning to wonder i have to say. Should we move on okay. Because i'm going to get in an argument with you all all you a customer of dorothy perkins no top shop. Occasionally even now is not fully sang. It isn't that for teenagers. it's become top-shoppers become quite trendy for all sorts of well dressed women of all ages which of course i categorize myself us top turn. They specialize in sort of skirts. It's just about cover you know. They're a bit more there. There are other sort of Fast close outlets that specialize in those things to shop dues do have those sorts of things but they also have of quite fashionable fashion or things. Tally this this new. You'll note that berate me for this. I'm i came out of obesity. The other night and in mind at the moment is virtually no one walking down the street tool though these two i would say maybe twenty twenty two year old girls one of them stick thin the other one. Should we say rather more voluptuous. And she had one of these skirts on that literally. The mean was about just below her bottom cheek. shall we say like like a white belt. She had a big bottom and very big legs. And i'm thinking did do have no friends who can tell you how ridiculous you look. Dress live that bad of me. Yes she has. Perhaps she has real friends who won't hurt to relish her body. Ambi body confident however large is and don't forget people have loads of flipping money to me there bigger now. Yeah one of my friends on facebook was had been had. One of those adverts popped up. That's actually a bum pad so you know what you yes. You probably don't know this but you can get padded bras cert- obviously to make your boobs bigger now you can get pads that you that you earn tights that you have on your buttocks to make your else bigger offer people have almost implants to the have ones that you can use on the other side if your man. We don't you just use a pair of socks. I wouldn't know don't need to darling. Do you should know that's not true. Everybody that is not true. I have never seen in deals. We can beverage. If this is wasn't style. I would respond to that bar. Took maintain my decorum Anyway the reason i asked you about dorothy perkins to get back to the subject. Because philip green's retail empire. Looks as if it might be on skid row now. I'm sure there a lot of people that think. Well justice prevails and all that but think of the thousands of people can. at least. i'd jobs not just dorothy perkins top shot. But he's got various others as well Maybe he'll sell a of his yachts to help. Rescue trouble is here as you rightly. Say your first reaction is okay. Good philip green is going to suffer the trouble is he's the sort of man who as we've seen in the past. His poor staff will end up losing their jobs. You'll probably find a way to not give them the support that they should have. he's already dodgy with his pension provision. He'll come out of this as you say with yachts intact and the poor bug zoo actually worked for him will be the ones that lose out. So this isn't it isn't a cause for celebration and the this will be the biggest retail casualty of keva. Because i suspect his co. would have happened anyway at some point but because i don't think his businesses really gone online in the way that competitors half so they don't competing in the same way Site might be something that would have happened a little bit down the line but tragedy for everyone involved who inevitably is going to be thrown in the donkey kong. Now diego maradona. He died this week at the age. Tender age of sixty whatever you think of him as a person he was. The most outstanding football of his generation was knee. I would say I mean the worst comparisons with pallor. They were very different players. I was never quite sure whether they really worked. But that goal he scored not the hand of god one. The other one against england in at one just incredible. Yeah anymore so it's quite side. John smith whose his agent he's a friend of mine he came on my show on widened. State talk about him and i. She's quite wednesday. 'cause we we had him as well. Then we had andrea mitchell on for an hour to take phone calls for an a. I'm we beat newsnight. Because they they got both of them on as well as it's always nice to get one a header unease night not competitive and johnson me a pitcher last night if maradona in one thousand. Nine hundred seven. At wembley with gary lineker and john pennington england rosette on him and the only time. He was ever photograph with an england. Rosetta on so. I tweeted that. Really good action actually. So it's yeah he he will be missed. You think he would. If you think about competitor. Ronaldo or messi. Do you think better than either of them. Well this is really interesting. Because i had kevin keegan being interviewed about him and he was also exactly that question. A twenty two year old Maradona or a twenty. Two year old messi. Who would you want in your team. And has kevin keegan pointed out even missy said that maradonna was a better player than him. So i think you would. You would choose at his prime maradona. Obviously you would want him to then have the football genius without having the personal demons that i suspect are partly responsible for him being Dying you know so really young at the age of sixty But he had he obviously had around him. This aura of glamour author for the for assis. Brits will always be tainted by the hand of god goal. And incidentally my One of my sort of politics chums tom fletcher. Who was the promises foreign Adviser and then went on to be an ambassador including in lebanon now principle of my old college hartford. Did this lovely tweet. Actually a couple of days ago. He said the beijing olympics. I tentatively approached diego maradona to ask if he would like to say hello to the prime minister. Maradona glanced right. Fainted left and inked passed me. I returned slightly crestfallen to an amused prime minister to mumble my excuses. He said it was the cold shoulder of gold glow. Brown eight must be could beijing olympics. Two thousand and eight. It must have been brown by that point. I'm thinking squad. Gary lineker similar tweet On the day which. I thought possibly he might get into trouble for being bad taste. He said i. I hope that Diego maradona was a troubled individual. But i hope he finds comforted in the hands of god. Gary lineker go right to say that. I think i think i'm crazy. Scenes on the streets of one is areas. And i mean clearly. He was a national massive national era. I wasn't he. Yeah absolutely and i'm an tina. Should we say it's how to troubles few decades hasn't it so they latch onto anyone who can take their minds off some of the that they've been going through nichols you have to remember. It was nine i think. Didn't they also play argentina. The nine thousand hundred eighty two cup finals right after the fulton's for So thirty forty years old. It's difficult to think how controversial those games were. but i'm really were Right let's up move on because we've got a lot to get through of questions as while Nicholas sturgeon has hit the headlines again this week. It's the smp. Virtual conference opens today. And she's saying that an independence referendum would need to happen early in the next scottish parliament. Now that early could mean well any time in the first two years. I suppose be really imagine that you could have an independence referendum this year can you or next year. I can't but another argument was having yesterday. Evening was the such. Do you spend time having arguments. No we discussed We were discussing people who had made twenty twenty and might make twenty twenty one The the case was being made that nicholas sturgeon would be extremely significant in twenty twenty one because of the scottish elections and that if the smp won a big mandate in those elections it would be impossible to resist a independence referendum. My view is just say no referendums only ever caused you trouble. Here's a scenario. There is a school of thought that nicholas sturgeon might not be leader of the snp or scottish first minister for much longer because of partly because well mainly because of the alex salmond situation. There will be things that come out. That mean that she might not stay. Now i think it's fairly fanciful civil this. But there aren't exactly a queue of people waiting to take. It was probably is a cure but we haven't heard of from this is the interesting point was also made. He hasn't always been at birmingham university. He was at stirling university pre earlier on in his career yet so what. They used to be a good university. I do a lot with birmingham university. Incidentally not just that. I mean do you know. Obviously we are the hospital. I'm responsible for one loss responsible for is on the same site as birmingham university. So i wanna have a word said against them anyway. I so actually. I'm an onery i'm onery. Dr affirm university arm honoring professor. Get you or visit visit. Visit saying you visit the difference. Did you yet. You do some work and you just have the title on to got to wear the outfit and have and have the The ceremony environment. I was the glamorous ceremony. I got to make a little speech and everything. Excuse me you were the glamour loot odd. Didn't i didn't like the hunt. It was it wasn't it's not a multiple it's like one of those slightly floppy hats or yeah it's not it's not very body core on you know if you if you have a doctorate gown it sorta of splendid in one way but it's not very flattering. He didn't accentuate my waist. Padding it needed a cinch again with a bell but that's not the anyway. Listen to distract me. The point about this is the. Smp is a broad church as we know and there are thought of more radical hotline independent supporting smp members. Who would who was sort of putting pressure on nicholas sturgeon. Almost trip of udi and see her. We see her. As being a sort of crazy independence-seeking scottish nationalists they see her as being sort of slow and insisting on the democratic process the those types of things so that's also so if you combine the potential alex salmond issues with the fact that there are people who are impatient about her leadership. You may well be right right just a little bit of news about the prime minister's my new book. It's been named the times of name. Bits one of their political conifers books of the year certainly in the online article. I gather times every day. And i went to see where it was in the paper and it hasn't made the count in terms of the print edition which is a bit gutting but anyways nice nice to be mentioned and One other thing before we get into questions we would like your listeners. Nominations for our best moments on the for the many podcast in two thousand twenty for our end of year edition. Now what we'd like you to do is if if you can remember when they were trying to listen to the whole year. We haven't got the time to do. The research on this might be asked. Is what you so. I'm trying to find the episode where we said what you thought was good or funny or insightful. Or whatever and give it give us the time code on the side and you're on coal then we can put a put it together otherwise. It'll be a bit random. I suspect so just email Ian i n at ldc dot co dot uk with your ideas and we will see what we can do. I'm i've got the questions in junkie. Well sometimes roy. Let's move on to questions from you are revered looseness Have you got one to start with from twenty to josh. Powell says after watching. I'm a celebrity this week and the conversations the camp who are having. I thought i'd ask you both. Who is the most famous contact in your own. And when was your first. Kiss was an awkward moment. She lose to a. Is it your first case with the most famous called. Dighton your phone or keep up the great work. It's really appreciated. The i think you've just you've just told us. Do you do you text while. I've got boris johnson's number. I've got an. I do have the odd text with him David cameron go How i got any one more famous than them. Don't think i do. I haven't got tony blair's and i haven't got to. He's got no i'm theresa. May's ondo have you send it to me later. Go-to prime ministers. You've got to prime minister's plan brown. I she hadn't got just checking. I didn't think of brown no got no. I've got And and may yet Back back on where to come. I shall have go. I've got email addresses for quite a few famous people. Rovan failure members. Barry humphries email address. Possums i go on now. did you see that. Wonderful documentary about kenneth williams on channel five the other night charles rating. Oh it was just magical not nearly two hours and you just think oh. What a tragedy that. He died when he did because he was just so funny Anyway kit. I kiss my first kiss was with. Rachel elliott lucky girl and it was at primary school it. I don't remember any details. My first kiss was with somebody called peter and it might be listening. That's embarrassing and It was by a. I think it was by a railway line if i remember rightly The that's the that's sort of the problem with first kisses isn't it things get more exciting. The more cases in my experience joke take that as a bit but by right he was quite young. Says who do you think will be brought back into the fold when the next reshuffle happens. Should jeremy honky brought back in for jackie. If there was a labour shadow cabinet reshuffle. That may contain mike silent. Who would you like to. That was me not him. Who would you like to see. Drop toe brought back. Has jonathan ashworth done enough to distance himself from the previous regime. Yes i mean that's so you'll not. Let's not forget. Jonathan i schwartz was the one who one of his supposed- friends Reported him saying extremely on Friendly things about jeremy. Jeremy corbyn was still the leader one. He's done a good job and to he was always distant. He's a bit like kissed armor and You know he's very successfully managed to make the transition to the post cool venire. So who would you like to see. Dropped from the shudder cabinet or brought back. You can't say rebecca bailey. Because she's not she's not she's not anywhere she has been a very good perch. Dare i say till ready The good people are largely. Oh no funnily enough. We talked about the other day kris bryant of course isn't in the shadow cabinet is and he is very effective. And i'm surprised at that. You're not going to you a job. No i wouldn't Just not been any of them. Brilliant brilliant great. I doing a good job. I think it would be a good idea to restore bit of experience to the cabinet Jeremy would be good. Appointment as penny mordant should be brought back so drove it. Yep i bring him back But because then we'll say he has got to drop people now. I think there are quite a few candidates that he could potentially draw. Think alex chalmer. I think he's on death row. I think he's covered himself. Gloria tool over the past few months which is a shame. because he's a really really nice guy. Williamson gavin williamson. What he people always think he will be saved because he's better to have inside the tent pissing out and there is an argument for that but i am not sure if pissing over the tent. Then essentially he's he's inside the tent pissing inside the trumpet permanent semi so he can't do it he's a waste around. The place at the moment helicopter is being sprayed. It's disgusting i. My gut feeling is that he will go back to being chief whip. Don't think forest get rid of know. I the trouble. With that is enor-. I agree that he was a very successful chief. Whip but in order to be successful chief whip. You've got to sort of have either the fia all the respect of your peers and i think he might have lost a bit of respect his peers and i think they might slightly at him and think you're on your way back down again. So why do i need to do what you tell me. Yep you may be right but I think i don't think he's going to sock him. Altogether i think if he will be moved but i'd be surprised if he got rid of him polling job though hasn't he don't you think i think he should never be put in that job I don't think he's done a great job tool. It was not a job that you would really imagine that did fit like hand in glove. And that's the problem with cabinet reshuffles it. It doesn't seem to matter where the people think that s Right now the twitter question. No keat assim in. When was the last time a caller on. Lbc changed your mind and jackie. How important with the media especially the press during your time as home secretary. Well i can answer very important One of the things about being home secretaries almost everything that you do things that people really care about an likely to if they go even slightly wrong and your phone. The front of newspapers in not in a good way So and of course your subject comment of the time so possibly romley do spend a lot of time thinking about how things will play how you will sell them and how you will explain them and that may be rolling set. The need to try to resist the something must be done. Which but it is quite difficult. I can't remember the last time. An individual caller changed my mind on something. But there've been quite a few issues where a succession of callers over a period of time half alter my vs i think particularly on disability issues I think on some welfare issues too. That's been the case But i i can't pinpoint an individual Necessarily that's changed. My mind was second bit The second bit was my about the press. When i was. I'm sorry i'm david archer. Is there anything not that one. He's a leading character knee. Arches era david. F is any little thing that you say and interviews that you cringe at i keep saying Are apparently would you ever pull out of an interview with somebody. He pushes your buttons. Somebody that really irks you or would you just do the interview anyway. Incidentally my verbal tic. I think is i say it's the same as trevor brookings while i mean i say that far too often and i tried to eradicate it so if you have noticed it maybe half educated it would i pull out of interview. Somebody you push your button. There are people that i won't do interviews with either. Because i just behaviorally badly or whatever reason. I don't have a long list of these people. There's probably fewer than ten people on it Bod yeah that some people you just think what's the point. You're not gonna get an answer out to them. They're not going to say anything interesting so doing an interview with them. I have no. I think it's a very bad look for politician to stop an interview partway through and i never ever have done. I think he just needs to take the beating. Whilst you're actually being interviewed but ins ri- you would. There was some people who i would have refused to be interviewed by particular. When you when you when you're in the cabinet and you've got a choice either who you are an interview by But econ obviously there's the joel naught standing up and storming off still having his microphone on thing which you will be forever remembered for if you do Peter anderson says he's got a smutty joke for us which i haven't read own so i'm going to take old. Three nuns are on the way up to heaven. After having been involved in a terrible minibus crash on the italian alps that killed them them in the driver. He went the other direction as they're approaching the pearly gates to be interviewed by some peter. They requested by attendant to form a single line. Wait sister agnes is first sister bernadette behind her insistent carmel on the end finally some peach or purchasing us to determine their worthiness for entry to heaven. He says to the first nun sister. Agnes have you ever seen the penis of a man since the agnes burst into tears and says yes. Peter i have but please don't let us prevent me from entering the kingdom of heaven. Some pe- says never fear. My child safe thousand hail. Marys and then go over to that font of holy water and wash your eyes out then you shall enter the kingdom of heaven sister. Carmel sees what's going on and tap sister bernadette on the shoulder somewhat urgently. St- hey bernie. She says sister bernadette asks what is it a little annoyed. No a little annoyed sister. Carmel says if we swapped places sister bernadette replies what four sister. carmel says. i wouldn't mind go before you stick your else in that. Go there in the end. Nothing jacobs a joke right right tomko queens first of all love the show question and we are currently re re re watching the west wing to keep our spirits up which your favorite characters on. Which one would you be and he says. Ps i want sauced campbell alastair campbell the same question at an event and he said he'd never watched it doesn't it isn't it. I wonder if he said that. Because it's a cliche you know. Everybody thought they were in the west wing when they were in number ten. I has given me an idea. Because i want to watch boxer over christmas and it sold on since i've seen at dot com. I might be washed that the trouble is i. Think the sues one series tour. In norfolk. And i won't be allowed to go to norfolk before christmas because we are not allowed to three areas. Are we know. actually she does that. Mean are not allowed to go to work. You all think you were key if you're sort of key worker new can't work from home. You are allowed to go to work even into three areas. But you should be working from home if you can or don't want trouble. I think radio people do count key workers don't we. I think he d like i'm graham. Not that won't go down new drug queen names actually may not one then jacobs ready pussy. Graham they're not any good if you have to explain them. Michael gablers michael gave grunting. Shag scrunch shops olivia down. A- oliver dowden rubber johnny messy. That's quite good. That's a good one. Well for wilkins. Yeah we'll give you the be plus for those you'll turn johnny says the prime minister's he's fantastic in really coast my sixth podcast. One of many big audience. Tell you i was really surprised when i got listening. Figures is not bigger than ours. Is it certainly not not nothing. Could be bigger than ours. A really great and informative read an idea for follow up. How about the president's. And then he says jackie. How about the home. Secretary's it's interesting. You should say that that way interesting. Jackie because ian. I have been meaning to write. That book for about ten years would have to sign a contract to do. It didn't you. I'm she signed tonight. My memory is did. I may be miss remembering. I'd say to have a contract. Say let's put it that way. Well it's funny. You should say that. Because i have been mulling over. What the next book should be an as of yesterday i i put into My agent a four book proposal was the american presidents. If anybody wants to nominate somebody who thinks should write the chapter on a particular american president. I should be all ears. I've got a few ideas. But i think that's going to be quite difficult. One to fill the slots at much more difficult than the prime minister's was in some ways. But i'll get there in the end they usually do. I'm graham. Yes that one aka page three boy. I edison to the podcast. Because i want to know jackie's up to write another twitter question I've got one from the our own in the week. Oh yeah no. We still have covered. This political thinker asked earlier in the week about the poll figures with respect to the foreign aid issue genuine christian. For your saturday podcast. Why do you think results of this yougov. Poll of this is a lack of understanding or that most believe in charity. Starting at home. I mean the point is that is a that is a fatuous but powerful slogan isn't it charity begins at home. The point is of course neither mystic spending nor foreign aid spending is in fact charity. Bought this whole idea that the other the other analogy. That's quite often used. Which is about if you're on an airplane. You have to put on your own mask before you help somebody else. These things are fatuous but powerful and they are clearly playing out with the public of whom up soobee right. And i have that so often when i did a tweet about this on one stay instead i thought it was entirely wrong Had so many people just saying charity begins at high. And i just replied each time saying it doesn't end there full ryon newark coins correct. Whoa qian strikes again. I'll be blamed for that. Some are another upturned. You this quite louis bull says. I'm still really enjoying the podcast. You sound surprised. Louise if you could invite anyone into your home to cook a three course meal. Who would you invite. And and what would you ask them to make fully greetings and have a nice vulcan and speak german otherwise that would be sort of slightly. Would it you. Can we go rhino fake hat. Since for people accent is appropriate accent. No the the the the focus was alright right but the big four that was slightly sorta pretend german language. My name is hans. I am from germany. And i did not have a sense of humor so please do not tell me any jokes because i do not laugh. Do they have no jokes in german. You think actually. I have a bo. One fucking is in my bedroom. A wonderful book called vits. A death site Just prattling for a few seconds. Nassir talking pressure out. I don't know how far away from his bedroom is listeners. Because i suspect his house is quite big so it could be several minutes whilst he makes his way to his bedroom and looks up. This looks up this german book So god own whilst we waiting. I will thank jacki. Safes for having sent me an absolutely lovely present of some coasters with a picture of bombers which is very near to where my caravan is. And i really appreciate it. Jackie thank you very much. But that doesn't mean that lots of other listeners. Now feel that they have to send me presence. Because i feel a bit guilty. 'cause in the in the letter that she put alongside my present she said you sort of hinted that you wanted presence. So she's made me sound like come so demanding the listeners centers presence i genuinely and but if you desperate to send me a present as jack jiang doug genuinely leonte what kind of not. I was just thanking the lafi. Jackie says for having sent me a present but saying no no listen. I don't want anything else. Oh no ono. She's very polite lady because she deemed to thank me for sending me the sending how the prime minister's spoken. I thought we did pay for it. Love she's very nice right here. I found this. I i recall this bedroom. I'm jokes d. Best to best invinci- debt site to the best jokes of our time is actually the best jokes in the insight newspaper right safe. This one get sugar going really common. See dan. how does see napoleon's in got their hair. Hatice mia kazakh te stim- oust him into court. Does this niche harbor. Kyd and togas walked. He sold my level. German ran out after about a code. Let me let me use that. Some translate how come you all the polian answer. Because god told me. I am voice from the background. That's not true. I haven't said word that huma. Can we get back to nuns. Lessees another one but that's fine. We could we could make this a regular feature german jokes about time higher. Let me just read. This one is the Right i know you. Adama kitsch nass. I'll stay bart in hotels. Cima amna item hunter silken a young woman. A hotel room and hand towel is it. She stopped bollock naked. Gets out of the bath in her hotel room to find a time to try and find a towel. I'm festers eat z and fence to put some indo dazzling lena does he wounded and leaked. Yes out window. She sees a window cleaner. Who looks at her in astonishment. I'll i'll see damon spotless and start zonked. dow hamas did not knee unin fence. The puts puts kazan again. That going on but that was the punchline the punchline you ever seen a window yes i can remember off with my german family going from pavilion to cologne and i would read these jokes out to them and i was pissing myself laughing in the back of a cow and they didn't utter a single off the whole journey. That's not that. Let me just wanted me to shut up anyway. Get back to louise's question which was who we would want to cook a meal in us. Be get on. She said greetings from germany and usa. I would now. This'll surprise you. I would ask christine hamilton. Do because she is the world's best cook each she though yes. I have eaten at her table many times would you are. You also thinking there'd be some dances. Well that would be lots of bounds. Because she's no nothing if not bountiful. She told me off. Once when i went to their house in cheshire this was at the end of the nineteen ninety s She she said. Would you stop leaning back on your chair because it's very old and very valuable o. I was suitably admonished. He would you. I'm social. i'm quite gelfand fan. But i feel in tim. Niger ways enter programs with incredibly middle-class people sitting around a table eating saw quite see myself in that mold tried light together. Some of my incredibly cool friends denied gelatin. Come and cook for us. I corps a piece of pro up. No no it was on google books night and they had two of her program and she's making a chicken sandwich. Yes seriously dove. I mean anyone can chicken. Yeah but she. She already well to be fed so i don't like about her. Is these constants slightly sexual sort of things that she does where she pretends. She doesn't know what she's doing but we all know what she's doing. I never cook a meal without my finger and gazing over my shoulder. Sexily as somebody. I mean can say everybody does that. Don't me paul. James noble mother should be doing really on with it. Can you hands slightly serious question now. From saudi frederick. Who says one for saturday should we have confidence in. Hmg's latest commitment to finally address. The wind rush scandal. Because it was this week wasn't it the h. l. c. condemned them for failure or was it for the hostile environment. Anyway certainly the that does not appear to be a lot of progress in addressing the recommendations from the independent inquiry into the windros scandal. And i think they need to. I mean obviously precipitous other things on a mind but she really ought to pull a finger out and do something to set the that scandal straight. Yeah not report was very damning. It has to be said and i think if you to be released on a different day it would go far more coverage than it did. We did cover it before waiting monastics but it yeah You do wonder why so. Few payouts are being made were whether people aren't coming food or whether people whether the home of his system is just not functioning properly perish. The thought that could happen now. Remember that question. We owe anecdote. We heard from alex last week about why. He said something about anal sex in his garden. Remember what it was in. His neighbors overheard tried it. Was it more. He should do when they come around for christmas. Cbs well somebody who wishes to remain anonymous. How some advice regarding your question in the state podcast. He was concerned that his state neighbors had heard his horticultural ejaculation. Surely he could just sale meeting them again. I'm really embarrassed. I was on a phone call. We were talking about john. Mcdonald's play for people to vote labour. Last year i think i shouted out the annelies eck. I'm elise eggs. Try it once and you'll be fine. I hate you didn't think anything else. Nice troy in other news. Finding that i s is still rocking labor antisemitism. I think that means. Jeremy corbyn just won't leave it elaine and there are regular. This is a dark stain upon the parties. Briefs kiss them is matt about it and has vowed to butter up former recipients. Got that have you seen this thing. Where jeremy corbin's wife laura alva- lower probably alvar as his. Her twitter account is has on more than one occasion. I think this week posted exactly the same words that jeremy corbyn has posted on his facebook account. In other words it looks as if he or wherever does is facebook also doing his wife's twitter typical man. Now the sorry. I was going to do but it's a bit. No oh guess goodwin allen p redfield says when was the last physical fight or brawl by. Mp's in the house of commons. And what were the circumstances. I asked because i saw this in the guardian pigs guts. Flying in the taiwanese parliament is. Mp's fight each other. This is like reality. Tv gold lull in anything like that. People haven't really squared up to each other but there is some time in in my day. There were occasionally some of lively slightly. Do you want some moments as people went into the divisional base. And i think i've previously settled the podcast although he's now sort of worthy and serious Leader of plied comrie. Adam price was one who had a little. Bit of a sort of jubilant. Some attitude about manila at least one occasion. When i 'cause you know. I find it quite difficult to back-off row when i'm a bit angry will haven't had enough to e tool ribbit tired when i'm a bit yet. Exactly what. i'm slight being slightly fight. Stay as a latest sometimes. Have gotten sick to be so. That's the only one. I can really remember i ca. I can't really remember. any physical. Altercations has been plenty of verbal ones. Think pull it. Pull a sheriff woody. Quite light of clot. Boris one where she really lost it. But right. Richard has got a joke. Glad you light nuns it. I don't know. I haven't read it yet. Glad you glad you like my gulf joke last week. Here's another one to keep you going. That was great jake. Superman is flying around one day when he spots wonder woman laying on the beach but naked. He thinks to himself. I'm faster than a speeding. Bullet fly down that. Take care of my business and be gone before. She can blink an eye typical man so he sweeps in dowling. So he's sweeps in does his thing and disappears into the sky sensing the commotion wonder woman cries. I what the fuck was that to which the invisible man replies our neighbor all of a sudden. I've got so ross. That is third jingle on the. I shouldn't really be laughing. I'm going to have to ask permission to ask you this one. Because it's a bit rude. Do i have to hear it before. I can tell you whether or not and then i'll look like i'm a bit no i'm not going to because it's it's a bit inappropriate. You can tell me about often but you can also be on windsurfing. He's a nice. You know on the basis that quite often a crisp question can catch people out. Or elicit a good answer hugh pugh bali recruits which is probably Has asked a good question he says. Is mr speaker getting fed up. That's is mr speaker getting fed up. I think the suggestion. He has been getting fed up. Hasn't he's been getting fed up with the government failing to make their announcement in parliament. He got slightly fed up at the prime minister Losing his messing up his remote answering questions the other day and but largely do we think that lindsay hoyle is doing a good job as speaker. Yes good concise concise out since ago. Concise question certainly compared to its predecessor. Yes well i as you know have always said that. John burke who is a game of two halves because he was actually many ways a brilliant speaker in terms of the way that he shifted the balance back to parliament from overweening government control and yet the bullying allegations. I think meant that. He should have stepped down earlier than he did. Margaret beckett would beg to differ. Of course yeah right now. I don't think i'm going to give your name here atom now. This is a kind of wooden question. But it's quite good one dear uncle in an anti jackie during lockdown become friendly with my neighbor. I live on my own. And she's a single mother with a son at university now. My elderly parents were in a care home. And i won't be able to see them at christmas. She's invited me into her christmas bubble to spend the day with her and her son who will be back for the holidays. What she doesn't know is that and has son have a friends with benefits arrangement when she knows. I'm only ends bus but we've never really talked about that side of my life and certainly doesn't know about her son he's already been sending me free t. messages about seeing each other secretly when he returns we get on really well supported each other three lockdown. This is the mother lockdown loneliness but i feel unto saving now. I don't want to be on my over christmas but would feel uncomfortable spending the day with her sons her son with a background. We have please help by god I think that just sort of make sure when she's cooking the christmas dinner you take full advantage of the fact that she's in the kitchen also pay a. Oh i'm just thinking how would i feel. does presumably. The mother knows that this is the sun out. No the only god. Because i would say i think the son needs to tell his mom before christmas. Spur to do that in your own time. You can't pressure people to do that. Think look. I'm sure you can enjoy your christmas day with them. Both and not feel awkward and you can have compensations. That don't revolve around gay sex and she brings. It may be an opportunity for something to be a christmas to remember. wouldn't it. i think they're going to need to be quite a few board games. In order to pass the time otherwise people might get on the whole place. Scruples is all. I can say most of us do manage to spend christmas day without having the urge to have sex over the christmas turkey. So probably you can manage it. Yeah and i wouldn't want you to be own adam. Oh no though. I'm sure that your your friend could bring around a present. You just you just trying to be rude now. No we back in sausage sandwich territory show he could bring you something that rant notion really at the end yes i think we ought the tether to be honest with the afl after. We haven't lived up to our standards. I think we've slightly let us That has not been insight for political as you say people people. Can we apologize to everybody for having sell stone listeners. Down and the port cost on the country as well. We'll talk. we'll be better next way. At least we recognize when we've been a bit shit all need to tell us about ninety minutes being a bit shit right. I think we better stop here before we say anything that we might live to regret. Not that we have no ready. And so i'll have you got a very very busy week next week. Do your hostile things. I've got quite a busy week hospital. I'm not i am. I doing any. I'm doing any showing off things. I don't think yet will do. I might be I'm yeah it's meetings meetings meetings actually. Now we'll have to recall the wednesday podcast a bit later than we did this week. Because i'm doing jeremy vine wooden stay can't you so are they out that that's what might happen at some point. Yes they will be go back. Apparently they they liked me. Hope you're not be really good for your be I combs. Yes no. that's fun. I'm going out to dinner on wednesday evening. Because i didn't really go out to dinner. Much pre lockdown. Because i was keeping myself pure for strictly of keeping yourself disease free. It's well if you want. But obviously that's an evening. And before that i will be ready and waiting for you goodbye cheerios. Thank you for listening to this global original podcast from lbc. If you enjoyed it would love it if you could leave a rating and review on whichever podcast app. You're using it helps. Other people find us she see. 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81 - I Don't Want To Be (w/ Carl Tart)

Punch Up The Jam

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81 - I Don't Want To Be (w/ Carl Tart)

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My name is not meal and what are we do here on this podcast. Okay I'm going to tell you we're going to make a perfect song. Okay even more perfect <hes> so so you think this song is perfect perfect. I didn't say that it sounds like you. Did you know these are my notes. I just got into the notes early. Okay well. Let's introduce our well actually before we introduce our guest quick shoutout brought to our listeners Daniel from Illinois Punch Mass Punch Master Flex who made us a sub read it and while ago but we haven't shut him out until now now and also this is GonNa come out later than that so it's comes out in three years so we're going to be old and gray. I'll probably be been dead a good two and a half in years. Elizabeth Warren is a great president. She's a great president again. It is a shame that she had to kill me but it was it was worth becoming president. Let's interest ask you know from his podcast. A flagrant ones must writer on Brooklyn nine nine also from U._C.. Give it up for Oh. Dear abby coming from the happy life was like me you know we used to come out to that. In High School basketball the ball that was in two thousand five when that song came out yeah we ran out to that and it got the crowd says so high. It's such a great that's all it will forever. Be Perfect walkouts you ever break through the paper when you run out. That was football yeah. We did that in football. I did that cheerleading. You should get that in any event where you have to walk out to people like even if it's like your hosting like the Emmys or something you should get to run through paper that says the Emmys I agree that will be tight more running through the paper twenty the chili's rip it a little bit so we could get three hundred so we all get caught up in seeing the little giants they have to rip it and then they rip if it down they run out before winning basketball that you just like do like a tunnel and we'd all run through the little cheerleader a cheerleader tunnel with paper at the end. That's the yeah I think the obstacle course real appeal of playing sports is getting to run out to a cool song. Oh Yeah that's the fun part fucked the game. I don't care about the game. That's my sophomore year so I wrote the been so it was like wjr graduate. Oh Seven Prom theme 007 Casino Royale Casino Games. We did the fake casino we everybody got tokens and chips like gambling to where'd you grow up. I grew up here. Okay like you guys are GonNa just reveal that you grew up at the same place here lift yeah. Where'd you go orcas island Washington? Oh Shit I was born in Mississippi and I grew up on the west side where in the West Side Culver City poems area. Oh my God. You're so cool. You're already the coolest who else guys we've ever had. You grew up in culver city. Thank you comb mustache. Okay question while we're talking about cool you are why did you want to do. I don't WanNa be by Gavin to grop well. I sent a Jimmy a few songs okay and I knew that he was gonNA turn down the other one. The other ones were the first one I sent. You was pretty Ricky's. He's on the hotline. Oh yeah because I'm like this may not be the right audience for this. One don't have done some idea hey ma y'all did when I was the lyric in pretty ricky songs are ridiculous and I just wanted to talk to you about him but this one was also my jam this same got around the same like a year before this I will wake wake up every morning before school and Watch that <hes> MTV countdown yeah this was always on there and Qian's somewhere it is it yeah and and I remember liking this dude so much he came out on this album. It was like three singles ours album that were like all these dams chariot this one was he fuck. I'm thinking of someone he wasn't married married to Gwen Stefani was that someone else told them something. The guy from Bush I think is who I'm thinking of yeah. That's not him. Gavin Avenue Gras is singer that I haven't really heard much from the last few honestly it was just like this song and then you're reminded me about Sherry it but I don't. I don't think yeah I know his work very well the thing I think most people know this song from is one tree hill. This was the theme song for one Tree Hill which is hall Larry's have. Have you watched that from oh I didn't I know I haven't watched the theme song and I was just kind of like why this it doesn't. I'm fit the VIBE at all. I feel like maybe the vibe became like to me. It's like it does fit the vibe but it's just so intrinsically tied to that show that I'm like well. It's the same vibe but I'm mostly just kind of like like felt like the official Song of the C._W.. For a while just because I when I hear the song I think every Promo on the C._W.. But Yeah Ah this so you know I have you guys done California here. We go now. Let's grab this and do that now. Okay California. That's jammed and that fit bit that show Oh absolutely I think the best theme song on that time was filming on your skin. ooh Oh wow come unwritten. I didn't watch I didn't watch the ending. Oh come on spill. PA Spencer Spencer was the hills right yeah yeah the hills was wow special finale all time. It was such a big part of the Zeitgeist. I'm like well. I know a lot about it but I've never seen a full episode anyway. I never paid attention to the words of the song outside of the chorus effect prior to this punch-up. I couldn't tell you what the versus like. I think there's a reason for that because they're not you know anything. It's a dump zone. It's so interesting to me. I almost never pay attention to work right. Even though I know I know this back and forth but I I was just like I I just like the corporations it's a good song to listen to. It makes me feel good but then when you actually listen to the lyrics this is stupid fucking condescending very condescending. He says that song was heavily influenced by the identity crisis right now that exists among youth which he's a youth of this time anyway away. It's almost like you can go into any town in the country and the kids don't necessarily have an identity of their own whatever's on television who they are again. This was a TV theme. It's just yeah all right man. It's also been like that forever right. It ain't never been I mean it's more homogeneous now because we all have twitter and Instagram Yeah as Oh you know you go to places now and everybody's wearing skinny jeans as opposed to just the west coast and east coast right but still like what a coup observation strangely put himself above. It's very this his first album. Okay carry it in my head. I'm like if this is the second album. You can't even if it's like just if it's not the first song is put out if he's on a major label making this kind of stuff. It's like you can't be like the kids nowadays. They're all just like sheep. It's like you. I didn't who's he what's Cincinnati bengals angles. I this reminds me. Did you guys see watch that the nineties the decade that made us thing now or the last decade or whatever and it's gone anyway. According to Love was on there being like Oh Kurt Cobaine used to always get in the media and talk about how much he hated being a rockstar how much he didn't WanNa do it. He loved that Shit. I was just like Oh so you you just don't snitch on your himself and you killed him and I. I'm like ours do that consumers and feels like a big part of just being like we're not we're not shape. We're all like I mean entire genres like pop punk garage about how we're different than everyone else okay but you're getting the same money yeah yeah at some point like you WanNa be above it all until you're benefiting from it. Actually the systems okay. The thing is true like uniqueness is like a lonely lonely life. Wow that's poignant. I mean no. I'm serious that the little deeper that everyone's like I don't want to be like everyone else but it's like you Kinda do or you're you're just alone and that's how you have to own up to it at a certain important or you're just living in a cave. I guess and you know become Bjork. That's what happened yeah but even Bjork's guy you know her little <hes> duck husband and little kids continue. That's it. She's got bjork. You Got York Bjork and I think those are the kids Yup and her husband Tom he think he gives way Thomas now all right yes all right. He D- weirded himself anyway okay with that said. I have a couple more notes but I think they'd be more appropriate. Once we get into the song. Shall we sure okay. We'll just start at the beginning. Uh well what a well. It feels like a such a slight interim just like nothing's happened yet. There's like this energy though it's like respect me. Don't you get the Second Guitar Star. It's like you're not ready for this. I hope he looked at his drummer and was like hit. It got got got here. It's just all Improv. We'll just feel it out. I got the words. I don't know what we'll do. You feel there's like this weird like I think they think they look sexy but they look menacing guitar player just hit him those two notes. No no no no no no no no no no no. I tried to look up the court so the song thinking I might do like a classical arrangement or something just isn't no court for the entire versa accents. It's single notes right yeah and what's really interesting is that I feel like it kind of worked in his favor and that when the chorus happens you're like finally yeah something I can fuck in a single to. Maybe that's what makes it good well but also isn't been half the song bath I feel like if half of the song is building building it up for the other half and it's like maybe it serves. Its purpose in a way that's like okay. It's good. It's a gamble because you're like I'm banking on people waiting a minute for the song actually go anywhere anywhere man. He really believed in the song I also that pianist he gets. He gets jazz piano in a lot of his songs he he likes to play like a little like slide piano going. What's the song is not follow through? Is it or is it cherry not well both of those have strong piano and do you have a favorite for Gavin to grow song. I think it's Cherry Okay Yeah. Oh Gary Karaoke sounds Kariuki. Song is a good Carioca Song anyone sing with you. Does anyone know that song anymore. You know what when I get up because of my stature when I get up and saying Gavin to grow people love it yeah and it's always I dunno thanks maybe come up and do still dray now. My preserve white guys always do the thing you're not yet. uh-huh Yeah Yep exactly correct you're exactly correct but like when I get up and do that or do Bonnie Raitt or whatever it is you did you do less. Give them something to talk about. <hes> can you imagine do fucking. I can't make you love me too slow. It will bring it. Will I do that when the crowd is not not popping man okay. Should we listen to what he has to say. Yeah I was just GonNa say like I can like. I don't have an idea of what the music video actually. It looks like. I feel like I can visualize it just like them playing in a warehouse something. It's like just grungy warehouse. I so wish it was that it actually is is a house party already and it's it's two sequences and obviously once he couldn't it's the band performance and governor girl made the brave choice of wearing a quarter Roy Brown jacket with the button up very thick collared like paisley-patterned Western style shirt with the color of the shirt on the outside of the jacket and then get this beanie. Oh Yeah fucking beanie eighty and did you see his footwear footwear. He's wearing Thong Sandals. No He's not yes he is this is insane. Brown sandals with his boot cut jeans right so the banks are flame torn up such like two thousand seven guy won go to Oh also aware like short brimmed hats but we'll turn to bring 'em kind of to the side and I can't stand that Shit right now. ooh On or backwards ackward half. I don't know who he's trying to have Jason Mraz but then like a half rascal flatts to Morocco flats. That's exactly what it is. I don't like that and then the other part of the video. The story part of the video is the one cool nonconformist girl who or courses just very normally really hot and looks exactly like a hot girl is the only one unfrozen at the party investigating all of the fucking posers and actually one point taking girls island Atlanta out of her frozen hand and writing on her head impostor trying to cash frozen football player but then like. I don't know if she did or did it but I'm like this feels very fifth element of video. Please do not so much. I feel like there were like three music video concepts up until like two thousand ten. It's just like you're at a party. You're in a warehouse or I don. I don't know the third one is there aren't everything is just set around the same set of tropes. Yeah happens at the end of the video game he she finds Gavin Yup correct okay exactly correct. We wrote a damn it a specialist a specialist in what I have the note. Are you ready to hear just before I tell you what specialists you're like okay. What does she do the therapist there's some sort like the county appointed psychologists psychiatrists that works for like a local hospital that works with troubled troubled youth yeah definitely something something in the medical profession? My first thought was like maybe like a gastroenterologist she gives Bo talks. That's no joke. That's what I was thinking. It was like some sort of like plastic surgeon of some sort just both talks injectables <hes> which is in three she had every time. Where did he grow up? I I didn't look that up. That's okay. It feels like I'm just GonNa take a stab <hes> north Florida. I'm thinking Delaware. Let's take a break and then I will come back with the answer okay. We'll be right back and we're back way. What were your guesses about where he's from? I said Delaware in North Florida and San Diego from South Falls Berg New York yeah Apologies yeah I did say `do fat check me but in this case I do re- politics for the slander on governor garage late mother also what do you think is the most like Gavin de Gras type Middle Name for him to have Jefferson Kevin McGraw. I'M GONNA say Gavin de Gaulle's middle name is <hes> he's born in UH early eighty S. I'M GONNA say Kevin's tyler chain. I think he's seventy seven. Oh late was born in seventy seven February fourth year. He was born yeah. It's more than your star wars. Oh brother so I don't need to be anything other than a prison. Guards son Weird Way to start a contest wrath atop. No Yeah you do yeah you can be other things because those guys aren't on usually good yeah. No that's generally speaking even just like setting up prison guard before specialist. I'm like do the other way so you have a cushion of like this is. This is my good parent this isn't I don't know not so proud of this. I don't know maybe just say my mother son. My father son Yeah. We need their jobs. I just don't know what their jobs have to do it. He wanted to be so specific to him and also it's just like now. You're classifying your parents by their jobs yeah right so do they need to be something other than a specialist they just say. I don't need to be in other than Gavin. Girl's mom then Gavin's mommy. This is like the opposite of that. I'm a bad he's just like. I'm a son son son Amazon okay cool strong move right out the gate also the way he's singing it. It's like it's not really with the music. It's kind of just the companion piece. He comes comes out pretty quickly with mediocrity. Have you noticed like yeah. I don't need to be anything other than this right. So what are you doing man advocating for Ed. Why even be a musician at all question? Why don't you just live your parents house? Chill man what if it was just like he had that first line and then the rest of the song was completely blank and it's just like I don't need to be anything other other than a prison guard son. I don't know how you could follow this up. Oh he falls it up by finally rhyming with the words Sun instead of just using it twice lamb guitar coming in like finally hitting them like okay. This is what you've been waiting. Wait maitland sweet relief from what the Fuck Hell were in now. It's a firework going off when you just been like all right. I see them lighting the fireworks when the fuse go fucking the bottlerocket going POPs. I bet you like this song inspired some kid to be like yeah tomorrow. I'm going going to school and I'm GonNa walk by the table. He was a black day when they're still like I was a bit be n._F._l.. Batch would you say let's say you're the bitch. You're the best I'm a bitch. I'm a bitch. It's like the fucking William punch-up we deserve. I'm a bitch. I'm a bit exactly that one well okay. I don't have to be anyone so it's not anything anymore now to anyone which I think maybe you should have been what it was the whole time right. I don't I don't need to be anything is being anonymous objects. Whatever ever have to be anyone other than the birth of two souls in one? What's that mean I guess the the Maga Mation of what his parents made aide versus yeah essentially just I guess it's in being like yeah I'd have to it's just him doubling down on the previous two lines by combining so I'm an egg sperm yeah yes? That's pretty cool. He was just talking about his parents mashing exactly he. I guess they described this session for like PAS license. I got off from the prison. They came home. MOMS at Mason beef stroganoff. She wasn't working today was off day at the Clinton. I was about to Clapton. Jake's it was nineteen seventy six and the souls became one. I don't know if you've heard the spice girls but they have a whole song about this became one that night and we were doing it to the spice. Girls make mistakes. It was seventy six. It's just any song that can somehow shoehorn. My parents fucked. Oh Yeah it's on the basis of the song. It feels like he wrote the whole song around like just. How can I get this off my chest my parents fuck okay? I don't need to be and if in other than my Yeah Prison Dad's car that's the fun ship. I should have done everything else is the same and then part of where I'm going is knowing where where I'm coming from. My Dad's Dad's best deference from that meat. He's you know this one is true but you should know what your game yeah but weird way to frame it went up be like from fucking whatever New York from South Osberg New York Yeah tell me about the the house you grew up in. Tell me about like the neighborhood like the school you went to like. Maybe it sucks but you're proud of it anyway. It's yours yeah it. It feels so much lease just circling the drain and being like I'm here my parents and <hes> I'm mentioning this because you know it's important to my future and all right time time to sing the words I wanted to sing this feels like if they decided to really just fuck off with the star wars franchise you doing right now and they were like what if a Homey I what's the girls naming it ray right what if ray finally where parents are prison gardens. Specialists is her song. Oh Yeah it's just so focused on like parents yeah. It's a great mystery of the song is like well. We're my parents well. I'm GonNa tell you just stick around and wait. This is the song race things stars of musical is their star was the musical go. There's about to be don't steal my idea. Okay the <hes> and some the a when I tell you I used to harmonize to that are are making me like this so I didn't like it. I'm out of here inside of my head off. He's done anything else. They'll take the other one rips. I feel like the reason that I caught onto the so much was because I'd here in adhere the harmonies ooh. That's who I'm supposed yeah the drummer they didn't get the memo was supposed to be kind of mediocre. Just GonNa go off all right probably a Yeoman. Let's calm down. They do get get don't do. I can't Doodo K._K._k.. Starts Looking back. Don't don't I'm fucking doing and then everyone everyone was like Oh. We can play now too. I guess also just the fucking finally given US courts yeah. The whole song was just two notes until this point really edged us out he he fills it out though after it I mean I think the song is annoying but I have to say it. Kinda worked on me. I came. I was very excited did I. It's so intrinsically tied to just one tree hill to me which is a show. That's like I watched episodes here and there but never was like a big fan of it or like eight or anything so I'm just kind of like I remember the theme song and that's my closest memory of and I'm like pretty good. I don't know I never watched one tree hill. Where was that in relation to Dawson's Creek is Dawson's creek like Taylor's like when we were much younger nineties right? I think we were small. Okay yeah like eighth grade. Yeah I remember feeling like I was too old for it. Yeah which is not true definitely the right age for it but I didn't watch it all the same. It's from two thousand three right yeah September two thousand three okay yeah. That's why the song popped up that was when he started ninth grade. Yeah that's right. I remember that I had a brand new pair of air force once I I really I think I had a new red echo shirt yeah. Oh definitely had a new backpack. I'm feeling pretty cool. In my Volka M- sneakers occurs go skating after school but you won't see me do but I will be skating. Do you remember as my not really able to you guys but remember really thinking you did something fashion wise because you put on like a pair of genes with like a new T. shirt and that was the whole outflow yeah accessory. My mom went to Mervyn's. I bought all of the like Phat farm also shirts in cool with the first two thousand three. The first day of school I had on Fubu worldwide shirt. Y With the new air force's hair was cut. You were cool I was I mean you know you had to be in my school. It was no option you reinvent yourself after middle school yeah. It's your time to step out but I think you really did something when you don't even have layers to your outfit. There's no accessories you. You're fucking otherwise exactly the same. It's just a new T. shirt. I feel like that was me a lot because I I didn't try anything so every time I was like we're too damn way back feeling pretty fucking good. I thought I did something because I wore gray sweatpants with a gray sweatshirt into those walls. I'm just as bland of my personality <hes> <hes> so he says I don't WanNa be anything other than what I've been trying to be lately. All I have to do is think of me and peace of mind. What does that first sentence me? Don't Ooh okay. I think he's saying that who he is. Lately is like his most authentic self so he's like. I'm going to stop trying to be this version that society wants me to be. I'm just GonNa it'd be me and if I ever started doubt myself. I just remember me and then I feel fine. I don't feel like I need to impress anybody anymore. It's like he's saying I don't I don't I wanna be anything aside from what I have been already try. I'm trying really hard to be this one thing but I don't want to be anything else again. Thing I take issue with anyone. Maybe it's like thing in terms of like jok or prep like nerd or skater. Those are identities though I know identity is a thing this thing he got reprimanded handed work. It wasn't even like a strong reprimand ation. You know how like rappers like we like. This goes out to my eleventh eleventh grade English teacher who told me I was never be no no. She just wanted you to read aloud in class. Hey if you could just like maybe stop swearing throughout class one day. I'm going to write a rap about out this then. This sounds like that whereas like somebody like say hey so I just want to say there was a lot of errors in the O. Reilly report if you could just fix that next time he was like I'm GonNa be me okay. You put me in a box. I'm keeping it real. These errors are part of the report. Isn't that the worst when someone like exercises self love love and confidence when absolutely should not be this is this is this is constructive criticism. You should be here to work on time all were saying don't try to change aged. Jay's me I'll be here at eleven thirty. The mall all I have to do is think of me and I have peace of mind though there's definitely a fine line between like confidence and self selfless if I'm ever stressed. I just got to think of myself and I'm like Oh you're getting too. Don't worry about this. You got this baby you look in the mirror and you're like Oh. That's right you slowly. We start jerking off exactly his affirmations on the marriage just like me me me me me. I'm tired of looking around rooms. I've never never know this what he's saying. I'm tired of looking around ruse wondering what I gotTa do a WHO. I'm supposed as so funny when you learn lyrics rigs. I'd like to say I'm looking around who what I gotta do. That's better wrong but snow right. I'm tired of looking looking around roofs. I guess it's supposed to be like parties scenario. It's like I'm trying to being in a room seen a bunch of people which one do I fit into but the truth is like AAC. Don't you feel that there is compromise to be made when you're in a party scene and there's a bunch of rooms at different people like I refuse to cater to what you want to talk about. I will only be me don't go to the party yeah those people at a party title looking around the room and being like no everyone's <music> sitting down and having a nice talk. No I'M GONNA play video game or that person who's like guys. Let's all go outside and everyone's like now. We're good come on. Let's go get food tail here. We hear what a person leaves. The person who leaves as soon as I have a friend who does is I won't mention because it would be really very upset but tames rhymes with Derek jeeter no he. He likes to leave places. He likes to hit me up and go man was probably the F._B._I.. Arm At this place and he was like man. I'm kind of tired and I'm like well. Why did you hear me fucking time? You don't want to kick it like or like we'll go to a part. Ah Like fifteen minutes in my dude. I'm about to get out of here man. I'm just come yeah. I had a friend that would always be like. Are you doing anything tonight and I'd be like yeah. I mean probably GonNa go to this things. She'd be like cool it's like are you still gonNA thing I dunno might stay in. I'm like just don't text me attack me Demi. There was also will be totally fine with him. Just being like yea. I'm not into going to that or not. I don't WanNa be like hey you know what I'm realizing kind of burnout on parties. You WanNa just grab dinner this week and I will say no. I'm going to this party. Take no actually I don't fuck it like you very much. If this was five o'clock I will grab dinner with you but it's now eleven thirty. I'm trying to go to this house party and another thing eat dinner earlier amendment worried about Eh too late in your body and then he says I don't want to be anything other than me and I'm disappointed because we're GONNA go back to that versa. Yeah give me a taste taste of what was coming in. I gotta go back. It feels like he has a bunch of people on stage ready to sing and fill out the song and he's just like he's got one hand like the guitar and like another around like a giant volcano from big and he's just like a one man I don't. I don't need to be like that's all it is and then he's like all right. I'm a little tight. Let's bring the full band back running running back on stage and then back off course why it has to get back there and sway were them now. This is where the lyrics Eric's truly get wild. He's like I exhausted the narrative of trying to let you know who I am so now I'm going to let you know who everyone else's. Crab Rabbit bye bye a and Gavin is your boss here again. I just feel like just you have to shower before you come to work understand Dan that I'm not say put on deodorant or any that you could use your natural deodorant trying to turn me into a drone. I just it's the people in the office are complaining leaning about this morning. I'm surrounded by imposters with the air circulation's not great year. Maybe they should learn to smell worse to cover up my smile. How come I gotTa Change said of all of these is drones just because they're having identity crises and they haven't learned to love their sense that somehow on me like I'm in a dilbert cartoon? That's what you're turning me into into fucking Dilbert. These are the words if someone who's like never read a book before like any faulkner he got half catching. The Ryan was like yeah. I feel good about this. Yeah the very least like this is exactly the text of catcher the right sir. I'm surprised I'm surrounded by phone is liars okay. I'm surrounded run by liars everywhere I turn I'm surrounded by imposters everywhere. I turn turn a lot yeah. You'd love to pivot. I'm surrounded by identity crisis. Not Cry. Identity crises price sees a singular identity crisis everywhere. I turn am I the only one to notice. I can't be the only one who's learned again. Pick up just one hemingway just a single hemingway. I I mean I'd pick a different author but also yes any book. No I'm saying if he wants to feel like a man. That's the first man has thought of things you know what I mean. It's true Gavin Yeah he is. He's like all these other white. Men Not being brainwashed. Just this thing that I just feel it comes up. I mean I don't know if these episodes but spoiler for it hasn't new radicals what's out okay so and then also Jason Mraz. It's like we have at least three examples now with Gavin as well. He's like white dudes who kind of think they really thinking something fresh. This is pretty old man. I feel like for awhile though like non-conformism was a big big thing for white and there were like hold up. I'm surrounded by all these other white men and I don't WanNa be like that and then the one black person their audiences like yeah okay. She's yeah funny how it's like in the lack of oppression. They're like you know what we are being oppressed because everyone else isn't like us right there. Oppression like the corporations the find my iphone from are trying to control me and everyone else is like I'm getting killed like I'll tell you this though I would much rather have a bunch of these news than the outright feel kind of like the gateway logic is the same because after that kid walk past the black table this up bits and he was like I'm GonNa show you calling everyone else. Liars changing the narrative instead of doing any self reflecting a lot of bad people start that way thank you Richard. Spencer knows black table kids me. It's all of the white movement women crew went to high school richest. Now you were the one that called Richardson through every day. Forget it rich bitch so are they having an identity crisis or they liars and impossible because those two separate thing right across crisis feels like they are trying so hard to be this thing like they don't know who it sounds like they also were in the same place as Gavin. He's like fuck. You guys would also struggling with your identity right. They very much sound all cut from the same cloth. I'm not sure where the line comes from. AM I. The only one to notice a can't be the only only one who's learned and I was like wait. You're part of this if they're all having crisis crises than you are. Also you all notice you all are learning the same thing the fact that he predicates his entire identity on whose parents are pretty good indicator isn't a super strong identity right now not really how many pizza bagels you think giving us to. I like going <hes> twelve the whole Bach Ho body right after school into the toaster oven and he's sitting with his guitar in his room Gavin Pizza bagels are burning. He's like like this and he doesn't just hated that. She dared to tell them that's like when you die. The video game in someone's like Oh dude and are like Minot actually wanted to die support of this actually this way new game it's GonNa talk about. I don't like the game anymore. This is just so wild. Call People Liars and impostors in your own fucking song. He couldn't just be like you know what I like strawberry cream cheese onion bagel not afraid to say it. He's like I think it's good I like concept of posers and whatnot I feel like was such a big thing in like music and Pumpkin all just because it's like oh they're not real happy. They're fake recap was like Nah. I think a lot of those people are happy to be in a group and have friends and do things that their friends all can agree with. Sometimes it's not that complicated. It's not at all complicating yeah. It probably was really tight to be a Jones brother absolutely kill to be even for a day Joe's brother day no yeah I would kill Jonas brother to brother like Santa Claus scenario no more like a Hannibal lecter scenario to eat them wear them. Oh okay yeah think of me what the man sorry. That was the same as the previous. The only we are living I can add is that saying I think of me and I have peace of mind really likes sounds like he thinks of himself as God yeah quite a lot. It's like I pray myself and everything's peaceful inside. I guess it is cost also kind of like meditation but it's like it's saying it in the weirdest way meditational about hyping present not necessarily like self worship the yes no if he's if he's saying that thinking of himself makes himself feel like mind or it's like I think of myself and I'm like dude. I rule yeah. That's not what you're supposed to be doing but peace of mind line being a full-on sociopath and just like like an himself yeah ooh yeah and then that was the only thing otherwise yeah like he's sort of goes on some runs like Ma and like yeah at the end there is he good singer. I I can't tell you bout to see me. He's about to go on some run okay. Let's get to that I said. Can I have everyone's attention. Please if you're not like this and that you're going to have to leave giving you were barely we invited to this point like we told you your bank play here. We had a playlist already set up and you still brought these mother fuckers in these instruments in flip flops with boot-cut twenty minutes after introducing himself to the person who's house it is he gets. I'm GONNA tables like all right. Everyone Posers Listen House rules and the guy who owns and I was like what what the fuck is going. WHO's gesturing to this and that because I could hear him gesturing he'd be like he's trying to play like I'm representing the like other people now and he's like here's my impression of you guys? Can I have your attention. You have to be like me or you got a Li Fook and drones. She's one of those guys who'd he picked. One word to like sheep. Yeah just keeps on saying labs who owns the house is like Gavin. Did you put pizza bagels in my yes. Hey man smoke alarm went off so I like I like the room to be smoking when I'm eating them smoke alarm to the government trying to control our foods temperatures they started saying like this and that you're gonNA sadly. It feels like his talking voice sounds so much like a singing voice and I'm just kind of like maybe it's not that he's a good singer. He just has a natural choice. That sounds good sung. I was like he's not like a talented. It's not that he's a talented singer. I'm that his voice his voice yeah. He's got a very melodic talking boys yes and sometimes when he doesn't talk it turns into a song you know he's discovered his. He found his voice like we all try to do. In comedy he found his singing voice and he made money from it yeah except that was in the days of record label so you probably didn't make that much. It doesn't also feel a little bit like you really thought he was like pulling a Michael Stipe here he was like I'm saying some things that are emotionally ron true. Oh he definitely thinks he's <hes> like going to get on stage to a bunch like a crowd of people that are going to have their eyes open for the first time so my question is what's the follow through on that realization through there is nothing like on the realization that you're like a lot of people you he's like hey he preaches to you and he's like hey. If you gotta listen man you gotTa just be you. Don't follow the culture just be you and then you're like cool so I don't like pizza anymore. You're like okay. We'll think about it the things that you're pretending to like and then just be like okay. Maybe I don't like that or okay. Well now have to reframe all just you think of all the things I like to do. I like better is it. Do I like that because society has made me like that yeah but even then isn't that like extremely nuanced to like have to try to be like okay. I recently bought a these as high wasted jeans that I'm not totally sure about the style but like I think they're Kinda cool. I'm not totally sure yet and then trying to unpack like to think they're cool because I keep seeing them on instagram like it's it's a far more insidious than just like. I only them to be cool. I feel like at a certain point okay so I have found a comfort zone in the snapback hat. I tried to get into the dad hat makes the bottom of my face. Look much more Mr The curb bill. Yes Dad hat the debt yeah it's like when he's gone <hes> and and I'm like okay I must not have that guy. That's what it is yeah so the young the young my little brothers twenty and he has a call we gotta get you. Some new asked me why wasn't that. Let's say I have settled into my generation like this is cool. The snapback is is is had a day where when the dad had really got popping it kinda faded away. It's agenda G._N._C.'s not into the flat bill. No no no this is news to me yeah yeah. My little brother is definitely he. He tried to roast me. Now you gotTa do you and I told him. I don't want to be anything other than what I've been trying to be lately. I've been trying to be lately as a person who still wear snapback ten in years later. All you gotTa do senior snap back and you have peace of mind exactly that's how I feel about. Fashion Trends two unlike I see teens doing it and I'm like I'm. I'm thirty years old. I can't do this. Oh Yeah Yeah I think at a certain point you're just like you do settle into. I mean you do sort of settle into a Gavin saying you don't want to chase trends anymore. You're like I this works for me. Just works for me and I don't feel like anyone rusting me hurt so I don't care yeah and even if even if it's a neutron doubt that you try it on and you're like Oh this works get with this. That's fine yeah certain thanks like rips in my genes. Yeah just started doing that like okay I. I didn't think I was going to be into this and yet I like it and this is sort of a newer I mean it's been around forever. Be like you know like the newer style of jeans and I'm just like okay. You can get with that. I can the risk of looking like a Dork. I think we're far more comfortable with the older we get. Ah Yes yes yes. This is very actually been quite deep. I didn't expect this governor. This is what he wanted. He's like I'm going to say you guys up to really think about what saying whether or not it is smart is going to grow right wow loss of her son the doctor you WanNa like Grab Dinner Sometime Kevin Everyone are liars. It's everyone are liars. Everyone be liars. Everyone is in identity crisis all people as liar so you know what can we what what did you Samie no no no no just turned and I realize I'm surrounded by allies and then they turned again and I was like imposters they turned again and I was like I just looked this way suddenly having a crazy it's like one of the liars walked away now. It's an identity crisis just curious what situation I'm in where everyone surrounding these constantly changing Ching but I'm just sitting in a circle it feels like he put on those glasses from that movie they live and he sees all some write a song and let you know Oh my gosh is we just joined the Church of Gavin Carl. It's your brother. It's realizing I can't really keep up with Gen Z. Anymore. The father the son and the holy chariot in what ways ah yes hurt again he we saw it sounds like he sets it up where it's like okay. Maybe I'm doing a God thing and that's a key. Let me just say no. I came. I was made out of clay. I was formed. I'm I'm a perfect being K. I have no religious experience. I know nothing. I haven't read a single page of the Bible. She's like a Bible thing. I think like to come down from the mountain top. Yeah that's where our Jesus had his sermon on the mount that were Goto the mountains from thanks so I just thought it was really specific insult. It's also a wildlife album. Okay I came from the crust of creation sure and then oh if I can say this my whole situation made from latest oh now I'm telling everybody I mean you guys. Don't find that hysterical that he's quite whole situation clay my whole situation. Is it like it was made from clay and now it's it's hard he's sending he's hitting his ways. I kinda hate that I'm like a little. It's kind of kind of good. This is like when I first heard that fucking puzzles over song great such great heights and then he's like a we're both made from the clay is exactly what king on thinking king it's a sign that the mirror image is because they're perfectly line. I have to speculate that God himself would make us us into corresponding shapes like puzzle pieces from the clay. I remember being in high school and hearing that like fuck and my God now that's like so many like analogies and I'm like all right. We'll pick one yard made us in the blink puzzle pieces from clay. I think it's perfect but also in my head I'm still fourteen real listen. That's all I didn't expect the God twist that was the thing that came from the mountain is like oh I'm Jesus and he's the crust of creation like I was made made on the top of the mountain. It's like just like Titan so you have no exactly it's like I came from Zeus fucking head. I don't want you guys to have any doubt about what I'm saying. I am the Lord he's got. I is given to garage Jesus. I think he's saying that Jesus went up to the mountain and he came down with Captain Gavin G. A. V. I. N.. G. J. E. S. S. Lo de Gras and crisis the same amount of letters to don't count them. Wow Yeah H Kreis H was shame yeah a hain nine damn wow so when he says when I think of peace of mind he really is touching the Lacrosse on his necklace and he's like wait a minute. Let's secret how old is governed agron. Now I said Said seventy-seven I meant negative seventy seven so he's thirty three thirty three. Oh No Kevin Buck Gavitt. Jesus has been one of us this whole time and he's Gavin's resurrected where he was when he was forty two Jesus forty two he resurrected it did yeah that's Gavin grow just came out with another album didn't he. Ooh Am I lying I could be he's been looking up. He's been trying to give us all of these like sands. Just like I am Jesus I tell you but I'm Jesus a flip flops it was there the whole time the sandals yeah handles and when he walked and Sinus Fares and carried you my child child Yes when you saw this though sandals in the in the sand oh my God the drummer went so hard Chris that drummers name Judas Iscariot to call his took not harmony punches pilots to the CAC her that's him whipping Jesus. Christian people are mad now. There's okay that is that's ever since pure. Listen isn't blink twice. If you're not Jesus wow and now I'm telling everybody so he really is going on to preach yeah so he's trying to say I am. Jesus and I'M GONNA go preach instead of Bush on fire and the music video. Oh my God that's what he's telling us who was parents are at the top. He's running us no prison guard. It's like a Joseph Yeah Harry's especially not having sex having a kid pries talking about sheep do because they're in the prison of conformity. Is there airline coming up where he talks about three people visiting as a kid. Oh my God yeah liars impostors in the fucking identity crisis also pizza bagels you know he likes them hot and two due to tough the bread Jesus like my here's my body the Gross Body Pizza Bagel we have really cracked into something yeah doc liars impostors and identity crisis are the three wise men. Yes Damn Zona Bego. You can eat this in remembrance of me. I it was in Egypt. Plan my bagels go. I'm just thinking about Church that serves pizza bagels now instead of bread imagine the fucking Capri presense instead of wine. Oh my God those are the communion wafers imagine youth group that offered that they would convert a lot of kids absolutely okay honestly Christianity. You're listening. Take it notes Other than what I bet being made piece of break up the notes dogs Tocado Ma Ma like it did he run out of spit in the MA. I I do like when they pull a whole band out especially when the drummer's GonNa do that Phil. He's been doing oh yeah and he knows I like it. Everyone else's on like just kind of like this is a very chilsong dreamers like no. I'm going fucking hard. Yeah Jesus is like can you relax and he's like I cannot this. This is for you sir. This is my way. I'm telling you something's about to happen to you. This is the last supper we get them all right and then he's just going to keep singing. Let me get the rest of the hit Donna piece of UH. I'm supposed to be of them. Eh absolutely absolutely like everyone's got their hands and the church service the search did not they may not know drummers. We're going hard. You Fade me three times. I thought he was going to go up to a higher note that he did not. Do you really season me because I thought he's going to go what I'm trying to me like right. Didn't you keep thinking he didn't get to that. He kept it in his range is the man he did that. He didn't he didn't go top no way and then just changed <music>. Oh Damn I don't want to be when he's like harmonizing with his yea. Hey It's good i. I just want that energy there. The hall you want. I guess eight minutes long eight minutes Jesus exactly keep uh-huh wow I so. What could you possibly this okay? We him well. This is before show you what I did to it. I you just need to show you now that you've listened to it. How much sounds like another song? Maybe it doesn't this is a song came out the year before and I looked at the producer the producer song also produces album. I think also falls into the exact same trap of what the fuck verse and then course that slaps so a little bit maybe songs referencing or at least fucking into cross referencing zing Maroon five's harder to breathe. Yeah Dude play it. We'll show you a single but I don't think I know this radio. I'll need to be a. and then the van prison guards son even works the same lake out will need to be an event in the then a specialist son. The U._S. got more notes. I don't have to be anyone other than Bertha. Two Souls in one pot aware I'm going breath is no coming from to be and it is bad. What I'll I'll be laid in my mind if they say I feel like Gavin's works better in that way it's more of a it starts out more sparse bars and then goes to more of an explosion? Something like it feels like you just added one more person in the chorus harder to breathe who's also on M._t._V. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I think this love was on that one. Oh Yeah Album Jan Johnson Chris Catan Book Data Jane What what also there's a real. There's a real Jane Chris Catan Data Jane Jenkinson Jane dipped on him because she also dipped on Adam Levine's yeah that's. That's the name right now. I'm living yeah and yeah you don't go in the Catan. She went Levin took insane. You gotta read the book went from the Super Bowl role to mango no offensive Chris. Catano is a lovely man. Maybe that's not what I did though I just needed to get that out of my system oh great. They just don't seem to me I did no one's GonNa like and that's okay. You really set yourself up for for failure listen. It's what episode three hundred how many fucking times on you write a song before you lose your marbles a little bit right or so basically the thesis is I don't WanNa be anything thing and then also the underlying religious connotations of the song. I'm going to tell you just play it. It's something Spock A it's a guided meditation you don't have to be. I don't want should be <music>. I they had a great idea for a Coca Cola ad I would say I would like once I realized it was really close. My eyes legitimately try to meditate uh-huh. It's such I think cutting down. I don't WanNa be anything such like depressing meditations like to. I believe it's like trains and dental. It's like I'm just I'm nothing therefore everything I dated. This is kind of fuck. You'd everyone very funny. Fuck you homeboy. That's funny. That's funny man I was. I was just I was like yes. This is the entrance he doing doing like Janet Jackson intro like a moth to a flame like no. Thanks so the punch up is like for your version. It should be that and then just kicks the to me. It just sounds so fucking looking meditative when you're like. I don't need to be anyone yeah. I don't WanNa be any and what I've been trying to be lately. I don't see I don't even need that. Second half was funny funny. I love when the news came in delude. Yeah you need a loon in any meditation pot at the end a little boon yeah they love it you ever fucking find yourself recording chance of Gavin de Gras for our yeah. That's when you know you've made with the correct choices in life day my logic logic action honestly it's available for download my patriot and you can try meditating if <hes> if you're able to meditate to let us know how it goes if you're not able to meditate let us know what's changed in your life. Why why you can't get there? Nothing changes out there listening to that yeah. Should we get to jail. We got you can't do. This is our esteemed guests. Would you like to tell us your jammies. Yes sure my punishable jam. I wrote down some. Tom And I have to find them so we went through a lot. I am going to vamp because it's been a month long time time for me. Yeah no no I also have you go i. I'm going to pick something that was inspired by Carl's twitter bio because it's redneck woman Gretchen Wilson at the product I have talked about how much I love that song how much I listen to that song as a kid all the time I and it's still rules and I WANNA do at Karaoke some time but like senior byles like now's the time we're GonNa shut out how much I love redneck woman by Gretchen Wilson. I know all the words I love that song as a kid just slaps okay I have to ask I can't keep straight are bonus episodes in this podcast a chance. You've already made it on punchbowl chair. I have not okay okay. You do love that song. I do found it. Okay call you ready. Okay listen back that as so by juvenile my favorite song of all time take-back yeah he says in all my favorite lyric in that song is you gotta stupid ass. You make me laugh. Ah because it's like basically you know people say people when something's funding you stupid asses because it makes him lab but that's not emma the the number one. I'm okay. What can I tell you the number one summertime by fresh print ooh good one thing of the past adjust we just a face and let the out last D._N._A.? Run A bomb. Put your car on through the late back at the summer time. It was inspired by you in a way because you do you do such funny enemy of the freshman and I just like when you listen to that song is like it's so transcendent of time and it just it. He perfectly crafted the perfect summer day of I'd like to win it ends you like Damn what is like it made me feel like when the song ends you go it's like do you guys remember when you we talked talked about highschool a lot in this. Do you remember when you graduated high school and you knew maybe people have parties that last day or that whole last week after prom when everybody's nobody's getting a cap and gowns from the cafeteria turning into your <hes> sports uniform so you can make sure you walk stage all that type of stuff and it's just like you really going to class. Everybody's just kind on a kicking it on the quad energy and you in the energy is so crazy because A.. You're all probably eighteen point. which makes you like real adults yeah and you you know like this is going to be the last time we are all together? You're super present. Yeah Yeah and you know when people cry at graduation when you're like wow this is really the last something after graduation. I know we went there was like three people to have house parties and our parents all like let us get the car all night like we went literally did not come home until like five six more which was like the first time ever and even like that next week. My mom was like no. I was a special situation because they knew just like this is the ending of summertime from top to bottom here. It is a groove slightly trans for and it's just like Oh. This is just the perfect day. It's it's like damn man but you kind of relive it a little bit when I hear that song. I'm taking right back to that place just fun summer when summer actually meant something you know I had a job that lasts that last the last few weeks of like childhood whereas like okay either either people are going to college in a couple of months or people are starting jobs now. I want whatever they want to do so like these every weekend was like bonfire. Dockweiler your best friends yeah. You'd never really hung out that much yeah yeah yeah people who just got to know in the last week of school yeah even coo over twelve years yeah but summertime on like that to me is like in untouchable. It's a good one and also now it's summer so perfect timing yeah okay. I wanted for my untouchable jam. <hes> I don't want him to think that I'm above like a stupid pop song because I am not to prove pop song because I dogged on this stupid pop song for at the last three eighty four hours how long it's been so I'm choosing pop song that I fucking love and I will not apologize for it as that is crushed by David Archer Coletta in a letter from American idol. It's silly so think of his really popped off and even that really pop pop up every time like yes team but printed David David like I could literally said about this. It's so terrible. It's it's good you had to listen to it Mersa. I need you to put in where the chorus drops. That's the spot that has to be the song versus. Give me a thumbs up. I think to say she gets it but also because she's also also yeah she likes it. She does not does not Karl. Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you so much for having me guys. This has been in a real blast having you do. I'm glad to revisit this song and like I feel like I feel the same way I did before but I'm also just like it was a positive feeling good yeah. Next time we gotTA DO Pretty Ricky's on the hotline punch-up. They'll sixty dome lyrics. I think the reason that I shied away from that. One is like it didn't immediately in my head what it is but I was thinking I was like people probably don't notice but it was it was their biggest hit was the one that made it to the pop chart so sure the grind on me and your body both they were me for vine yeah from Vine Yeah. It was out like eighteen years before five from vine. I feel like I've heard of on the hotline. I couldn't hear it in my head. This was like no I definitely know what and this one was much better. I will say Okay Eh. Where can people follow you find you listen to you can find me on why am I blanking? You can catch me on twitter and instagram at hat. Damn it Carl D. A. M. I. T. C. A. R. L. and you can hear me on the flagrant ones on patriots host with your buddies the boys Schon clements in Hayes Davenport from Hollywood hand love on this podcast yeah and <hes> that's basketball podcast but you don't need to love basketball to love the Joe because it's really just me and the boys being shitting. You guys are all so funny. I thank you and <hes> also other than that. Come to U._C._B.. Sometime I'm there a lot just loiter. You'll see him you lord. You'll see me and if you got if you got a job you gotta show you want me to write on. I'll do it fuck yeah. Thank you Karl thank you I appreciate it man and you can follow the show at punch the Jam everywhere you can go to facebook dot com slash punch the jam you can emails the pump pajamas you mean dot com go to our website under the jam dot com check out if we have tour tour dates. I don't know <hes> check out our patriots. Patriarch dot com slash punch the jam and you know go outside and eat some goddamn vegetables. 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Interview With Rudy Giuliani & 2020 Election Special (Ep 1377)

The Dan Bongino Show

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Interview With Rudy Giuliani & 2020 Election Special (Ep 1377)

"Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host Dan Bongino this the most explosive interview show we've done yet. I am not kidding I'm not overselling. So, we've had three guests on the show. It's the first time we've done that I've got former mayor, Rudy Giuliani about one hundred thing I've got a Robert Haley from the Trafalgar polling group and Steve Cortez from the trump campaign folks just a quick preview what you're going to see on this show. I. Robert Haley just blew my mind some of the stuff he's talking about about state polling national polling dope. Let me just leave it at this. Don't believe anything you've heard about this election until you've listened to Mr Haley I from this Trafalgar Group that nailed the polling in two, thousand, sixteen and everybody else screwed it up second we have former mayor Rudy Giuliani He brings up something about the Chinese government and what they were really up to with the Biden's that I have to tell you I had to stop and ask him twice Paula Getting I. had to do I. Say I missed it. It's stunning. Really, buying in hunter blackmail material all you gotta listen to that and finally Steve Cortez closing out the game out of the bullpen from the trump campaign. Absolutely hammering in about a fifteen minute interview. We did exactly what the trump campaign is going to do why they're going to win and how the get out the vote is going I'm really proud of this show ladies and gentlemen we have some sponsors who paid for they're happy to be here. Thank you for joining US really appreciate it. 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Wired magazine apartment therapy just go to helixsleep dot com slash Dan Their two minute sleep quiz O. match you to a customize mattress that will give you the best sleep of your life right now. Helix is offering up to two hundred dollars off all mattress orders for our listeners. Go today to helixsleep dot com slash Dan for up to two hundred dollars off your mattress order. Helix also offers exclusive discounts for our military first responders, teachers and students. Really you guys check out their website for more information helixsleep dot com slash Dan. All right now Robert Tra- fog excuse me Robert Gailey of the fog polling group. Don't believe anything. You've heard about the two thousand election until you listen to this man, this is just great. Check this out. All right I'm really excited to welcome. Robert Haley chief pollster at the Trafalgar Group. One of the few polling outfits that. Really performed well in two thousand, sixteen when others. Ended in a cataclysmic disaster when Donald trump wants surprising anyone everyone everyone Robert Hailey. Thank you very much for joining us. We really appreciate it. Let me start off asking this question since you seem to have your head on your shoulders when it comes to polling. Is this hidden trump phenomenon. The quote mainstream pollsters out there seem to tell US president trump's GONNA lose this thing by double digits. Thanks Don. Yes. It is absolutely for real. It. It's hard for me to believe that they could go through two thousand sixteen and have learned nothing. But they got you know they huddled up together and decided, oh, they didn't wait properly for education or some nonsense. They cannot acknowledge that there are people who don't share their beliefs it. It's frustrating but it's entertaining to because the idea that every single person that you talked to on the phone is telling the truth. And there's just Nothing could be further from reality people were being shamed for their opinions before being dachshund were being attacked I mean of course, there's this phenomenon. So it's silly to me that they don't acknowledge it and it's greater this time than it was before, and that's why you see a lot of polling groups that are now using my neighbor question. Yes, it was us it brought the. Neighbor question of National Prominence Bill Neighbor Question Thousand Sixteen. You will see our nine but people are using it and that showing a great difference between those who say they are you know the number four Biden and those who say the neighbors of trump because that's part of identifying the hidden vote and it is clearly there and they just they don't want admit it's there. So. This neighbor question was that the difference in two thousand sixteen why the Trafalgar Group you guys nailed it over there and were were your predictions were pretty much on target and everyone else was so off. Was it because of this? What is your neighbor? GonNa do question was at the differentiator between you and other polling outfits which were way off. It was part of it. There's kind of four factor. Really. One we we we when we were doing the primaries we noticed that our digital collection or automated collection methods were showing how our numbers for trump. So we decided to do a little test and we watched it and sure enough trump was more aligned with the ones that were more enormous digital than they were with the law calls. So we Kinda came up with a theory that the Socialists our ability effect was in play in twenty sixteen. So we we added the neighbor question, but we also noticed there are a lot of people who are voting who hadn't voted in a very long time. We're here anecdotes about people who can't use the machines and stuff like that. So we we did a lot of research and the summer and found we came up with a list of factors that might lead somebody to participate in the election that hadn't participated quite some time. Those were Kennedy's low propensity voters. So we added those into our sample. and. Then add to that the fact that we believe in short questionnaire. I think it's unrealistic in this modern world that you're GONNA call somebody and ask them twenty thirty questions on Thursday night at seven o'clock I mean. Can answer that you either got to care too much on the left too much on the right are you just bored and none of those representatives have average people? So of course, they're very short less than three minutes to answer the poll and we also believe in large sample size. You'll never see a sample of state with under a thousand people and so all those factors together help us minimize the social desire ability effect, but we can't eliminated but the minimum of it is why I think we're so different from everyone else this year. We're talking to Robert Haley from the Trafalgar Group again. One of the few polling outlets that was on target in two thousand sixteen when everyone else blew it. Robert. I'd like your opinion on something Iran in two, thousand, sixteen I ran for Congress in Florida district nineteen. So I'm pretty intimately familiar with the politics of Florida. And I noticed an interesting phenomenon when you're a candidate for office Republican primary, which I was you get a walk list to go knock on doors and of course, the walk list of Dourson knock on his only Republicans, it's a Republican primary you're going to waste your time knocking on Democrat doors again, vote Republican primary and I saw this weird thing I beyond the walk listen I'd be down these blocks in Cape Coral and Naples and elsewhere And I I pass these homes that had trump signs in the lawn and yet they weren't on my list. So I called my campaign manager is happening every day. I'd say Maria you miss this person on the list she said no, I, didn't. Date is accurate. They don't vote. So I would go in and knock on the doors once in a while we had some time to kill and I'd say Sir Ma'am noticed you had a trump signed, but you don't show up as. A voter on our list here and they'd say, yeah, I haven't voted in years or decades. This is my first time. Basically I love Donald trump or some some derivative of that, and it led me to believe before the election that he was going to win. Florida huge because all these people who had voted while we're trump. Did that play into some of the polling Miss Absence when he's sixteen. Absolutely and that's what I was talking about low propensity voters and you know it is it is literally one of those things were you know we've isolated? We've been doing studies on these in different states even this year and you know we've looked at and we've got a group between. Nineteen, Ninety, two and twenty sixteen registered At any point up until the September deadline for the twenty ten. General election so that you know the kind of the tea party wave and we look at people who just voted once. And quite often that wants is twenty sixteen and we think there are a lot of were coming back. So we built that in our models in twenty six. When we did it because we saw voting in the primary and I mean literally, they were just voters who hadn't voted in forever. So yes, it's absolutely playing. Then it will play again this year you're GonNa see people that you just didn't even know were still out there and it could possibly participate and not being called or the doors are being knocked and not getting mail and they're just low information and low propensity voters but they do like energy by trump and they're coming out to vote for him. Yeah I saw that throughout the entire election cycle and I still have my podcast from the night before the election in two thousand sixteen and I said on the show I don't like predictions but I said he's GonNa Win Florida. There's no way I mean I'm on the ground I saw this kind of brewing. Regarding these polls, we're seeing now some of them which are all over the place that are not from your group that Trafalgar Group way like I said, you are one of the few people I follow religiously on social media because you you're just a very sober analyst of what's going on and I think you're going to be spot on twenty, twenty two. In Two thousand twenty as well. But are some of these polls out there from some of these again, air quotes, mainstream outlets are they dramatically oversampling? Democrats because some of the sampling models for Democrats don't seem to marry up to what the turnout models in two, thousand, sixteen were and. I why would you do that I mean if you're a polling company selling your product? No sensible business reason to embarrass yourself. Is there a reason they're not? They make could be oversampling Democrats are they anticipating some huge blue wave? What am I missing here. Well. Let's start with simple question. How many polling firms for major national outlets got fired after two thousand sixteen. We spend all day and you're not gonNA find a name. So there's not really a punishment for getting it wrong. And especially when you start to why are they wrong? Are they wrong? Because they are trying to create an are they agenda driven? And purpose was to get the election right but was to convince people of a certain outcome and help move the electorate. So you have to figure out what their motivation is. Yes. They're absolutely under sampling a certain people and their argument is well, twenty twenty is gonNa look a lot more like twenty, eighteen, twenty, sixteen well, all five Soviet. But even if you do that and that's what we do we take some of the extremes from twenty eighteen still build them into the model and anticipate probably it turned out they didn't even happen. That is more beneficial. The Democrats in Biden just to be extra careful that we're not giving. We're not giving them a fair shake. But if you go is what the numbers say then you can change turn up model to say what you want them to say. It especially if you're not worried about being accurate I, mean we put exactly what our percentages are in every one of our polls the geographic ethnic age, and all that we we can demonstrate that we're we're balancing them correctly but I think there's a lot of that going on, but it's about trying to drive an agenda. Much, more than it is trying to be accurate because there's no punishment for failure. That's that's that's a really terrific point that I hadn't considered. Right nobody has been fired now listen I'm a partisan you're not. You're upholster again I'm an opinion guy and pretend to be a journalist. But what are the things that does worry me being an non-objective subjective conservative here is roughly a three million or so Obama voters did not show up to vote for Hillary and twenty sixteen obviously Obama. Was Exciting candidate for the Democrats not for me but for the Democrats, Hillary didn't generate that kind of excitement. Is there a possibility that these three million or millions plus of Obama voters show up again and Causa real turnout? For. Trump. It's possible that the a lot of Obama voters turn out but let's remember who makes up the Obama coalition. Obama was a rejection of an establishment like it or not even coming from the Republican perspective. There was a rejection of. The. Republican running Congress and having having the President for eight years in a row so. We've seen lots of people who are. certainly Clinton Bush. And then Obama and trump voters I mean there are people who move back and forth between there are a lot of similarities between Obama and trump boats especially in the battleground state, you hear it all the time people who just wanted something other I mean they wanted to kind of throw a monkey wrench the system they thought Obama was that monkey wrench they all saw trump was that monkey wrench made it necessarily get what they wanted out of Obama but they certainly didn't think Hillary was a solution. Interesting read something similar in the Wall Street Journal op-ed the other day. Yeah that's fascinating point. We're GONNA. Take a quick break. We're talking to Robert Gailey from the Trafalgar Group. An excellent excellent polling outfit will be right back on the other side of this break. All right thanks for your patience. Here we have another sponsor for the show today a friends at express VPN sponsor of the show. 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Anyway Express VPN is only VPN I trust because they use trusted server technology they were the first major VPN provided engineer, all of their VPN servers to run and Ram. And makes it impossible for their VPN service store any data including logs of any express VPN custody like that I did and you don't have to take my or express VPN's word for express. VPN is so confident in their no logs claim they even had one of their big assurance firms pw pricewaterhousecooper audit, their technology. It's no wonder that CNN wired name express VPN the number. One VPN in the world, stop letting people keep logs of what you do online. No Good Visit Express VPN dot com slash Bongino right now and find out how you can get three months free. That's Xpress V. P. N. dot com slash Bongino Express VPN dot com slash Bongino to learn more. Go today. Now back to my interview with Robert Galea of the Trafalgar polling group. All right. Welcoming back Robert Haley from the Trafalgar Group time polling, the election and twenty twenty coming up very shortly folks I'm Robert if you don't mind, I'd like to go state by state and I'm going to do all fifty states obviously. But just a few that are areas of concern for me and others who listen to my show and just Kinda. Give a general trend what you think how it could turn out. Pennsylvania obviously a critical state to the initial election twenty sixteen to President trump. Estate notably called Fool's gold by Republicans for years you've thought they could win it. And never worked out. We hadn't wanted I think since George H W Bush No Republican in a long time president trump did he wanted by a sliver? How does Pennsylvania look now because again, other polling outlets are predicting a up to double digit loss for President Trump in Pennsylvania, which doesn't sound right from my operatives that I'm hearing on the ground. Yes absolutely I think Pennsylvania is a state that trump can win now I I will I will give the same caveat that I've given numerous media outlets Pennsylvania, and Mama on is state that is most likely that if trump wins, he will still lose voter fraud. It is famous for voter fraud I always get along hate on the from Philly on twitter I can't figure out more because I'm a cowboys fan or more because talk about voter fraud but either way they don't like very much. But the fact is It has a history of it and especially I said it in the National Review article that came out Monday morning and sure enough by Monday afternoon meals a court ruling the backed up what I said I? Think that It's a state that he definitely can't win expecting to win it does he win it by enough that he can clips voter fraud I don't know. Yeah That's a good I've heard about that before as well. I, haven't run in Maryland as well. We always had a big problem with fraud and Baltimore City and other as well even in an election where I ran for Congress. Moving on. So Wisconsin I again, a number of friends on the ground in Wisconsin said, you can't drive through the swing counties anywhere Wisconsin without being overwhelmed by Donald. Trump sides. Listening I get it. Signs are in a pure indicator of WHO's going to win or lose Beta will roar cat signs as well in Texas. But he over performed. He did very well even though he lost. Wisconsin how does that look for you? Right now, another state president trump won but again, mainstream pollsters are saying he's behind by a few points then. We have We have a sliver. And the. And again, one of the things that we say we can minimize social our ability. Exists even in our polls. My Gut is that he's probably going to. It's going to be very close but he has an excellent chance of winning Wisconsin I will tell you with a believe the solid trump voter I think there's a lot of them out there and so my math is usually for every sign. You see there's probably three more voters that don't live in that House that if we're trump the don't have a sign in their yard. Yeah well, we're talking about some swing states here. Again, I don't want to go through all of them generous with your time already but the one, St that worries me the most given the margin president trump won by his Michigan another state Republicans have had trouble with for eons president trump pulled out surprisingly on election night but one by less than a point. Michigan seems to worry me that's the one st where people are on the ground listeners elsewhere telling me they think we could be in a little bit of trouble in Michigan. Now, he can lose Michigan still win if he holds the rest of his, but how are you feeling about Michigan? What are your numbers look like over there? I feel a little better but Michigan than I do, Wisconsin. One I think the strength of. It is a very power I mean when you look around the other states. In Michigan, trump has a very strong US Senate candidate who I think is going to probably even out ice trump in the votes but. But John James puts forth a narrative that is hard to define trump and the way he's been defined with someone like John James the next ballot next race on the ballot and I think John James Lifting lifting him up also think that that the best thing trump has going in Michigan besides John James Is Gretchen. Whitmer. she is universally disliked and especially because of her crazy code rules mean stuff that didn't even make sense and we see a lot of pushback on that we do see a good deal of hidden vote Michigan but I expect that Michigan State. We have him up in Michigan I think he will win Mitch. Put me at ease. They're a little bit see. That's why we have experts like you on the show and I'm not a pollster, which is why we need you. Great Point about John. James, though he is a fantastic candidate I believe he'll be presidential timber one day. We'll see a lot of him if he pulls this out over Peters, that'll be a huge huge win. Let's do one more swing state I. Feel Pretty Good About Ohio. So we'll leave that out but my home state of Florida again. I A single subject designs in my personal opinion don't mean much I'd rather hear yours but. Down, here in Florida I live in a swing county and Martin County, which is pretty much fifty fifty. We've been represented by Democrats and Republicans in Congress here. I see trump signs everywhere. I've seen trump rallies trump sine waves. My Wife's truncates right? Trump parades trump sky parades I mean I'm not kidding it's everywhere I have seen nothing for by there's a guy down my block bind son as fence. That's it. It's only Biden inside I've seen anywhere and I'm going to swing county I feel just pretty good about it opinion wise. What are your numbers telling you about Florida the greatest swing state of all. We have thought for weeks that Florida is a trump victory. I think trump will exceed what he did in twenty sixteen. I think he will exceed what governor scientists did I think it is going to be a significant win. There and it's going to be a little less hotly contested. The people realize the the the enthusiasm we see in the Hispanic community, the especially the Cuban, and Venezuelan community. I mean I've seen some of this this the graffiti with like comparing Biden. And Harris Castro and two of Shahbaz into Maduro. It's just amazing. They're so much energy. And you know when you look at a state is very dependent on tourism they've enjoyed the trump economy when the tourism was was going in and far didn't get hit like a lot of the other states did with Kobe as far as shutdown in their economy trump has brought new energy to the space program is consolidated a greater portion of the Jewish vote than he republican ever has all the pointing the right direction for trump in Florida. I think he's even doing well with the northern Florida Orlando Area Puerto Rican vote, which is substantial. Again talking to a bunch of Friends of mine who live up there. Let's talk about some states that could be potential flips in both direction both directions. Excuse me is there any possibility of trump picking up states? He lost notably New Mexico New Hampshire and then specifically main to and Nebraska to where they break up the electoral vote. It within the state any possibility of trump winning those areas you might have lost in the last election. While, believe he did win main second end Nebraska. That backwards. Yeah. I'm sorry my fault I had that those were more for Biden. I'm sorry New Mexico, and New Hampshire for trump forgive me by fault any possibility in flipping those No word. I would tell you the two places I think trump has the best chance to surprise people and we're going to be pulling these and the next ten days. Are Nevada and. MINNESOTA. I think those two states Nevada especially, Nevada really was a state. It was very tight last time any comes down. There's a lot of support with the Hospital Hospitality Union for Hillary but you know those hospitality, Union folks, they're good hardworking folks and man they really liked that trump economy and they don't like shutdowns because they don't get to go to work when their shutdowns and You Know Biden threatening more shutdowns where we kind of sends a chill down some of them kind of bucking some of that union leadership and then add to the unprecedented number. Trump seems to be getting across the board with Hispanics I. Keep Your Eyes on Nevada and Minnesota is ground. Zero for all this glamour being chaos and. I feel like there's there's GonNa be a big loud voice of people from across. MINNESOTA. Including Saint Paul saying we are not Minneapolis. Yeah I have a friend of mine. A former major league baseball player lives in Minnesota. Now said that there's again trump trump energy everywhere over there. On the inverse there any possibility of Biden flipping trump won like we said. Main to. What about Arizona? Any possibility of Biden maybe making a play there. Yeah I definitely going to work hard and Arizona Arizona's going to be tight North Carolina's GonNa be tight Wisconsin's GonNa tight those are all what I think. Biden has an excellent chance there's I think he has excellent chance of you know a along with Not He's coordinate with them but along with some people who WanNa steal some votes in Pennsylvania I think that represents a possibility. Yeah. Those are states that I think could go the other way but. I really don't see much of that happening. I think that the probably Wisconsin is the one I'm probably most worried about but I'd put North Carolina's a close second. Interesting. My father. I didn't get to north. Carolina. Couple more quick questions for you've been generous time talking to Robert Kelly from the Trafalgar polling group a fantastic group follow these guys on social media. They're really really terrific. Any chance some of these Senate candidates that are struggling and some of these polls benefit from trump turn out. I mean, you have tillerson North Carolina Ernst in Iowa Cory Gardner who appears to be in a significant amount of trouble in Colorado any chance they get a bump from trump or is it the other way around like you said? Michigan. where Trump may get a bump from John James. Well, I I think that I think would james and trump are mutually beneficial in Michigan for each other. But I think that what we've seen in the past is trump's gonNA have some coattails. This is a guy who has coattails and I really. I expect that we're going to see a little bit of a trump wave and it could be as much as four or five. percent that we see jump we look at kind of what that way was four years ago. These polls are tighter than they were for years ago even with the mainstream if you look at RSVP. And that's really the only average you ought to be looking at anything else is has an agenda but I think if you look at those, you'll see their tighter now. Waves, it could be four five points and you know if it's you know four, five, six points, you're gonNA start seeing things like Colorado getting competitive a competitive enough and cory. Gardner to get there you're gonNA see Mick Sally be of to get there. You'RE GONNA see Tillis getting their easily. You're going to see in a note for earth I mean it's really possible and that Minnesota Senate race I think you could see Magic Bayer to. If I if that way, this big is I think it really could be yeah, that would be huge. That's obviously a six-year seat to big trouble for the Democrats trying to get a majority back in the Senate just a couple more questions for you. The question I get most of all when I told people I was going to have you on the show. They were very excited and I got a couple of emails and social media requests for this one, I get this all the time. Is there a possibility president trump sets a record for republican with the black vote anywhere from say ten to fifteen maybe even higher percent of the black vote which would be historic at least in modern times. Well. Let me address this as I did Pennsylvania. Okay. Yes I think he got a lot of like vote last time. But. If you're relying on the mainstream media and their exit polls to determine which black voters voted for him, what numbers are, let's let's think about this a second. If, you're not gonNa tell the truth on the phone. When you're confronted with some kid with a laptop or a an APP patter clipboard you're going to tell the truth to them is like but was understated last time he will do it least at least fifty percent real if not higher. Wow we see that across the board in these battleground states right now we seem as high as twenty and some of them. But will you ever know? Because if you depend on the mainstream media and they're flawed exit polls, the same exit polls that said Hillary was going to win and had them dancing in the control rooms at six o'clock and before they started crying at about nine o'clock then you're never gonNA. Know it. So yes, going to extremely well, will you know it will not if you depend on exit That's that's a wonderful point. I was on the air with a different outlet on election night and you're right by six or seven pm they were celebrate they were they were cracking crystal. President Clinton. At two o'clock and. It was over they call Pennsylvania. Yeah. It was hilarious. You're right. It. So obvious. Now. We're agreeing with each other over Joe is just so obvious that people are lying. Exit polls wouldn't be wrong if everybody was telling the truth why they cannot accept it I, do not understand. Yeah, that's a great point if you're not willing to tell someone on the phone because of. Social Stigma supporting trump you certainly not gonna tell anyone in person with a with an IPAD. That's a great point. A last question. I'll let you go again we're talking to Robert Haley from the Trafalgar Group again can't say in strong enough terms can't recommend. Them on social media. Please check them out Robert as well as the Trafalgar Group. They're terrific. So I'm following the early numbers. This show is being recorded air of about a week a week and a half before the election. And I'm noticing that the Democrats typically well in early voting Republicans many states tend to show up on game day with corona virus who knows where that's going to go but they typically need a really big lead the Democrats in early voting going into. Election Day to win. A quick example I've been following as North Carolina state you brought up before where Hillary was ahead in early voting roughly fifteen or sixteen points and still lost the. State. Now Joe. Biden's ahead now by fourteen points two points less than Hillary. So are the Democrats missing their early voting targets that is a good sign for Republicans. Well I think. The comparison with two thousand, sixteen is strong one and consider that they're having even more turn out this time. So they really ought to be running these margins up, but they're not and I. You know the only thing. So yes, I think the early voting is not working the way that the Democrats would want it to work but I think that we need to be very wary or something else. Whenever one party has a lot to gain by nobody showing up on election day. It can be a very scary a few days. And that ethic is my greatest worry for the strength of this entire democracy of Shenanigans that will happen exaggerations of what's going on corona virus leading up to the election You know possible fear of retribution for those who vote in the polls, but they would be every incentive if they wanted to play dirty to try to affect turnout. Especially without they had an advantage if very few people voted on. Election Day. So you're saying that. You really caught my attention. You're saying it may. Garner a sense of desperation with the the side that's not hitting their numbers is that what you're going with? Agree. Having run myself. Imagine that yeah. Right. I mean if Democrats think, Hey, we don't even have the advantage. We did last time this time. Election Day voting is GonNa you know it's going to do as an. I mean. Who knows I mean? It worries me you start thinking about Antifa and and all kinds of shenanigans and you know. For you know what? We got a few polling places that were burned down Bob and all that kind of stuff leading up the day before and people get nervous. And I, think I think that's the way really bad things happen for this country is if everybody can get a fair shot vote. And absolutely guards what side you're on you ought to be for having their shop no amen to that. I'm in full agreement there voter suppression is. Immoral unethical not the hallmark of a of a constitutional republic like ours I'd rather lose than cheat. There's. I agree with you a hundred percent. Robert. You've been incredibly generous with your time. Thank you very much Again, you did not disappoint one bit I watched you on the Sean Hannity show the other day you were spectacular and you did not disappoint. Thank you so much. We appreciate your time. A big fattier of yours for a long time and it's an honor to be here takes Rub. 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USA check him out. Now to my my interview with former Mayor Rudy Giuliani Ladies and gentlemen this one. This one gets a little emotional at times. I really can't believe what? Biden did to his family and what the Chinese were really up to pay very close attention to interview with former mayor Rudy Giuliani check this out. I'm pleased to welcome back to the show former mayor of New York, city and lawyer to the President Rudy Giuliani mayor. Thank you so much for joining us. Again, your first episode one of our if not the most watched interview, we've ever done on the show so we appreciate you coming back. Thank you very much. Thank you so much then. You're. You've been you've been nothing less than heroic though Gosh. Thank you. Well, likewise, you exposing this disastrous information on the Biden crime family it's just been incredible. The man appears to be a national security threat right now running for President Mr. Mayor. I've been following this story on my show. You have been at the forefront of getting this information out there. We got some devastating new revelations in one of the ugliest scandals I've seen in a long time about. It's disturbing to even talk about potential inappropriate behavior with children on hundred. Biden. Computer I have not seen these photos you have you went to the police how bad is this stuff? I've got to be careful obviously how I describe it. It does involve minors. Sure. I let me read to you the way he hunter Biden describes. Because it will give you both sides of it and Then and then the problem. He wrote a wrote in September Twenty Third Twenty Eighteen To his father. He wrote the phone. She she meeting his sister-in-law had had a relationship lived in our home. She she told my therapist. That, I was sexually inappropriate with. Fourteen year old girl. When she says that I facetime naked with her And the reason I can't have her out to see me is because I'll walk around. Smoking crack telling Tom Girls on facetime. When she was pressed She said that I never said anything like that. But the bottom line is that I create an cause, a very unsafe environment for the kids. So. You have two versions right have. You have the therapist and the girl apparently saying. That he says time naked with her. And that he walked around naked in front of her smoking crack. Quoting to him when she was pressed. You don't know but he does admit that he created to his father a very unsafe environment for the kids. That's enough. And unsafe environment for the kids would require mandatory reporting. If I was a mandatory reporter as you were when you were police officer I was when I was the mayor US attorney. But it's worse than that. Really. There are three or four other texts. From family members about how dangerous the environment is for the kids. And then there are a whole group of photographs. It's very hard to describe. Let. Me about the adult ones, I. The adults photographs are. Pornography. Him involved in it. a lot of shots at him. Admiring his private parts. A lot of shots at him smoking crack Kinda like Weiner. Water Him Smoking crack. A lot of him smoking crack and having sex with one or two women. A kind of fetish thing that he does. So these are all over the computer. Also all over the computer are pictures. Of. Fourteen or fifteen year old girls. In. Seductive. Poses of different kinds. Some a normal some quite normal some are marginal and some are quite clear. And what is very clear So when we came across that Bernie Kerik and I will examine it, we've been over the text messages. I. I found this maybe three four days ago this text message about. Where he was walking around naked and she says no but. Unsafe environment and that's what motivated me to go and take a good look at the pictures. And I was shocked when I saw him. So a this is not my area of expertise in many ways. It's not even Burns, right? So we hold to very very, highly skilled former New York City detectives who did. Child. Endangerment. Cases. As a career. And I showed it to them and I said what am I obligations you? What do I have to do? And they said, well, actually since there's been given to the FBI. You don't have to do anything. But since the FBI has had it for almost a year. And from every other aspect of the case there seems to have been no action taken. ISSUE PROBABLY BE SAFE and reported to the local police. Close to Oakland places in Delaware, he owns delve, right. We thought the heck with it. You Know Bernie and I. Don't get afraid to. Right right. So I called the Delaware. Please I probably. Made him faint and I told them who I was and I told him I wanted to come and deliver. What I consider to be. The material that I had an obligation to deliver to them, and they had an obligation to investigate. So we went down there on. Monday morning. We brought with us. The illustration that we thought. Kind of laid this out we also brought the entire is if they wanted. And we showed it to them did along presentation they examined it. They asked for the hard drive. Service. And then. Basically assured us that they were going to know. It an investigator. and. Then we've learned the day later they sent it up to the AG of Delaware who's a politically elected official Democrat and ally of Senator. Biden's. And then she punted. To the FBI. So, think about that, right? Yeah. It made a circle. Pen with the FBI's ten months. Taking, no action. and. They send it back to the FBI but did have. Early. Yesterday was a week from the FBI. That the emails that we presented. The ones that Chris Wallace accused me of being unreliable. I'm not happy about that. He shouldn't be right you the I found to be accurate. Valid. Connected to an ongoing money laundering case that they have. Going on. And I have some knowledge of that. And then. The money laundering, it's. There are sized cases here. that. If I were US attorney I have this indictment. Serving the testimony works out the same way as. As the text messages and emails probably the indictment of Moss. And they're very serious cases. There we know some of them mean we know about. Ukraine. And we know that Hunter Biden. was paid the total mouth is. In excess of ten million dollars in Ukraine including some money wandered payments that haven't been counted I have the proof of that. I think I showed that once the The documents that goes from Ukraine. The money goes from Ukraine to. I feel Cyprus disguised as loans to fishing companies then it ends up. In, the Hunter Biden. John John Kerry Stepson Company. So. We get about ten to fourteen million dollars from Ukraine that comes to them. For no apparent reason because we now find out that hundred never showed up in Ukraine. So now we have to describe as a no show job. A no show job needs to be paid for something else. You can assume what that something else. Since Joe Biden. Acted. To ask the prosecutor dismissed. But remember, the prosecutor was not just investigating hundred. Prosecutor was investigating. A very. Dangerous. Organized Criminal Ukrainian Oligarch named My Cola. So ask. who had stolen five billion dollars and was an exile. He, he was hundred employees. He. was running Barisno correct Mr. Mayor. From. Yes from afar now now air. They also charisma didn't just this isn't just about one hundred by also Mr Mary covered on my show the other day they had also hired other Democrat can people politically connected Democrats you know David Archer connected to John. Kerry. The lighter guy? Who was John Kerry result chief-of-staff these. Guys knew what they were doing when they were hiring politically connected Democrats like Biden hundred. and. They also knew something that the. American media covers up and chose for. Sale. Joe has been for sale since she was a cheap little senator in Delaware and you could get them for thousand oaks I mean it was notorious Joe's brother James. was probably the most unethical in Washington constantly getting Biden in trouble. and. Buying would always get away with it by saying I don't know anything about my family's business. Figuring, you could say that I mean take corleones at once. And the other criminal guests to say twice. Say. Three times I. Don't know my family's business. And your family's businesses to shake people down for money. But I'm GonNa, put your jail. But. Said centered about ten John's. But because he's Joe Biden, it was left alone. So we have we have the Ukraine. And we have five witnesses sitting in the Ukraine that are ready to get on a plane and come here and testify under oath. That this was a bribe to Joe Biden? Not Having to do with hunter at all hunter was the Bagman. Hunter was the conduit. To make to hide the payment to to to to job. So, then the second one we have is Iraq. In Iraqis is appointed in center. Negotiate a status of Forces Agreement so that we're allowed to keep troops there. He fails miserably and doing. which leads to the death of a substantial number of people because our troops aren't there. Including people on the Who I and many other people represent. These are Iranian dissidents. Who sided with the United States and were killed that period time when we'd have protection for him because Joe Biden failed. But once again. Joe Biden failed like he did the Ukraine but the Biden family did really well his brother James. Who has little experience in housing as Hunter as an energy Becomes. Part of a one point five billion dollar housing redevelopment contract in Iraq. Just at a time that he becomes pointman. Now looks like he could have pulled out. Big money on million. Got One third of one point five, billion. It's hard to tell who the hidden partners were but he got a lot of money. And that money went to him not because he knows a damn thing about housing. went to him to pay off job. And once again, Joe Fails the United States. Now now. Now. We moved to Russia. where he gets three point, five, million from the archer does from the wife of the mayor of Moscow. Who is a very, very close associated Vladimir. Putin. It's really when you count the extra money that comes in which we've now found getting closer to four million dollars. But it looks to be the first payment. In a money laundering scheme that they're trying to set up. With rush. That has to be further investigated. Real explanation for this four million dollars from Russia. Now, that one got me really mad Dan because I spent two and a half years in the president spent four years defending against. Russian collusion. False. Charge Nair, the the hoax. Way To get anything from Russia. And thank God for at least four million dollars from Vladimir Putin. Yeah everything. They accused the trump team they did themselves. And there's no relation for this money so I can just no one for money. Going to the son. Of the vice president who can't do anything. I figure the explanation is, is to influence the vice president. And finally, we get the to China transactions. The one one that everyone knows about been talked about a lot. He flies his son to China. On Air Force to. He goes off to negotiate for the US to get them out of the island's dispute which of them. And to have them lower towers. We don't know what hundred eight days. Joe Fails, again. They don't go get out of the islands. In fact, in short period of time, they put more troops there. They don't lower the towers they raise the terrorist. The newspapers at time. For criticized Joe being such a failure and point out that the combination of Kerry. And Biden is much easier on China. Than Hillary. Clinton was. What the newspapers of the time don't know. Is that a private equity fund. That is owned by. Biden son? Kerry's Stepson. And why did he bolger's nephew? Got A, commitment of one point, five, billion dollars from China. The first one, billion tame was eight days of Joe taking him over. On Air Force to. Now, that's a partnership. With the government of China because the Bank of China is owned by China. So. So we have a rather lengthy period of time. A sitting vice president the Goshi hitting with China. Whose son. Was a partner with the Chinese Communist government. and. No one told us that. Obama never told us no one's filled. With American intelligence made a record of it if they didn't. They should all be. They can't be fighting there should be prosecuted really I mean this is What stunning Mr Mayor I could not have been. Made through the Secret Service selection process to protect the president with this kind of stuff on not even close I would probably be under investigation. And yet we have a man running for the white. House and his son and his family seemed to be involved in according to one of their business partners. This man who emerges week Lieutenant Buber, Lynn, Bob Alinsky Obolensky, free me from saint name wrong who was a business partner this who is he's not anonymous given his name who's now saying that Chinese understood Mr Mayor from the start this was not a return I operates and they are looking for a monetary return. It wasn't Belichick influence operation. But you know I have a different word for it, they would bribing. They were buying day. Okay. Then, Joe goes out of office. And he's rumored to be the leading Democratic candidate for president. And the Chinese who Are. They were making an investment. They were making an investment in buying Joe. They figured they could really jam them up. So the Biden family goes into a partnership. Three members of the by family. Joe James Sarah that brother, sister, sister-in-law, and hunter. With these two people Linski and Galley, ours. On one side on the side three Chinese communists won a very high level member. WHO's also? Chinese. High level intelligence operative name, Jesus in me. Is Operatives in America is a gentleman named Stanley Ho. And the other spy have working in America is Kevin Dom. They all join it apart. Here's the partnership. The Biden family is GONNA get ten billion dollars a year. And fifty percent of the profits. In order to make introductions. For C. E. S. C., which is a Chinese energy company, which is owned by the Chinese Congress. It may be. A bit of a French, an intelligence operation to me this looks more like. An intelligence operation to jam up the Biden's big time. So now when we get the when we get the hard drive. I start searching it. And behold I get the contract. I just told you. and. Then I go a little more into it and behind it is another piece of paper. WAS ANOTHER CONTRACT And the other contract has something else added to? That is the first one. And the numbers are a little different so you could come up with ten percent off. Ten percent. To Age for the Big Guy. So I'm sorry I'm cynical prosecutor. I knew right away that was Joe Biden Right. But of course I knew the New York Times would say. Oh absolutely, not not a big. He's not that big or or somebody's made it up with the Russians road now wasn't written in Russian, but if the Russian throat. So I said, we got corroborate this. So the first thing we did is we found the document in which they assigned the keys for the new office in which Biden will get. I can't even say this the binds were going to be in business with the Chinese. Communists. Match, Shane. So just as here's the keys we need. Key. Number. One Joe Biden. She number two Jill Biden. Number three James before him so. The big I guess the first key. So, that was the first indication was the big guy. then. We looked at more carefully and we see that in other references including social references. People writing to hunter his father as the big guy. Here's one just a social reference from a Felony Jeff Rodgers at about that time. Hunt see below big night and Licey I was not there but heard all about. The Big Guy. Made Them. Happy. The speaker that night was Vice President Joe Biden? Who spoke at the life sheet firewall? Clearly, that's nickname for job. And then we have now missed the but Linski. Who was she owes this company by the way Who has testified and submitted an affidavit under Os. That's a big guy was joe. Biden. That Joe Biden. Wasn't G. A participant in the money. That not only that. All that stuff about Joe Biden not knowing. About. Joe's foreign. I mean hunters foreign business which I think we just true the meetings. With the vice-president total crap. that. Hundred doesn't do a damn thing without talking to Joe. And that there's no doubt. That all over the years. Hunters, Ben Chicken, money back to Joe. And taking care of Joe's. Expenses. Which explains why Joe was never been anybody senator and his wife, a teacher has five. People have always wondered how he got the five longs. Don't take investment expert. Mr Mayor You said something they are pretty profound. I want to be sure the audience says it miss this. Is. Is there a possibility here just to reiterate this at this from the start? Was a Chinese operation to get dirt on the Biden's altogether knowing that he run for. I. Mean You said that I just WanNa be sure the audience understands me having some background than intelligence. That's that's that's perfectly possible that this could have been an up from the start and nothing to do with business and everything to do with dirtying up the Biden's. Two possibilities. The Chinese dumb and like to give away billions of dollars. For the Chinese are among other things very intelligent. They know what they're doing. And they figure it was a good investment in the vice president said, she had a lot of discretion over the Islands Taras? And he sold us out like crazy. I mean it was pathetic. America was sold out completely. If you lost your job to China somewhere in the mid part of twenty six changed sixteen every. Thank Joe Biden. The you lost your job Biden made one point five. Minutes discussing. Yes and then I think. They figured that's over, but they had to have another lover hold on this week man. So they came up with this deal and the idiot becomes a ten percent part, but it's worse than that Dan. There is one. A text message here that explains the whole thirty year. Racketeering Enterprise. This is a method of payment. Joe Is. The Big Guy, the boss Fam-. Hunter James Sarah possibly frank. Collect the money. They're the. Joe I, mean hundred explains now to his door because she's getting older and she may have to take on some of these I rotate on some of these responsibilities I mean Joe likes to keep the crime family in the crime family. I love you all. But I don't receive any respect. And that's fine. I guess. Works for you apparently. I. Hope You. All can do what I did and pay for everything for this entire family for thirty years. It's really hard. But don't worry unlike pop I'm won't make you give me half your show. That's incredible. For thirty years hundred has been given. By what he earns. Because Hunter has jobs that are fronts. To produce. BRIBE MONEY FOR JOE. This is a classic bag man situation. It's also very similar to the way Schweiker. At the beginning of a secret empire describes the Chinese for form of corruption. They don't pay the principal. They pay the trusted people around the principal, trusting the people around the principal to take care of them. To, make sure he gets the proper money at the right time and to make sure he wants nothing. That's the system they set up. and. It went on all throughout this and I I knew they were doing this two years ago I just couldn't prove but every little piece that I dot. When I saw this. I said. I can't believe you put it in writing winter. But all the circumstantial evidence leads to this. This is what's going on. This man by. Is it thoroughly corrupt? Even be and I think he's a very bad man and I'm going to tell you why is he batman because when you read all this, you realize that Hunter Biden is a very troubled young man. And hundred? Biden. Years ago. Should have been taken out of this dirty business. And he should have been putting some easy business where a drug addict yet the chance to rehabilitate. I know a bit about drug addiction I. Think you do too and the way in which you deal with drug addict you don't put them under stress. So this father has his son dealing with some of the worst criminals in the World Michael Izzo Chassis is an organized criminal and a kill. Elaine of good arena. Maybe a woman. She's got her sheriff notches on herbals. Ming is a member of Chinese organized crime. And during the course of their party, he ended up in the Yangtze River he's now at the bottom of the Ashley River if you WanNa find in. A number of people that this kid did business with. The number two guy in that partnership went to jail and the first person he asked what he went to jail the James Biden. And his own partner Devon Archer is going to jail so his father surrounding. This reminds me of the Mafia. There the mafia members who kept their kids in the business, and there were members who took went to all lanes to get their kids out of the business joe went to all lanes to keep his kid in the business and when you feel sorry for hundred being a drug addict. That's okay. You can feel sorry for hunter being a drug addict, but there's a reason that drug addiction was cured in the region wasn't cured as job died. Now that's a that's that's that's a great point I a sad point but a great one. Mr Mayor Nobody understands organized crime better the news just interesting on a on a side note I was watching. I don't know history channel whatever special on. The crime organized crime in New York City and you were probably forty percent of the episode how you came in there and really pioneered the use of Rico to dismantle these crime families which had run. New York for decades. So that was that was great that a great job back then but today I was covering on my show now by the time stairs a few days ago. How it seems like they knew about Biden's problems here. That is associations we're going to be troublesome potentially criminal and they covered it up I showed a time article in the Washington Post Article Back in two thousand fourteen. But when they were actually interested in this case before they knew Biden was going to run for president but one of the things I found interesting is a Wall Street Journal Article Barista the company Hunter Biden was working for. Headed by this corrupt crabs ski, they had some interesting partnerships, Mr Mayor, they partnered up with the Atlantic Council really polluted with deep state swamp rats who were Clinton donors and everything else and they also partnered with the trans-atlantic Election Commission on election integrity, which is a fascinating partnership with a company, like Burrito, with corruption allegations and who gives a pointed to this election integrity transatlantic commission after he leaves office to investigate foreign interference in election Joe Biden. Which is insane which says to me, they already knew this was going to come out and they were going to use election interference and Russian disinformation as a canard to keep people like you and others from looking into it. Well. Joe Biden. Made his confession of abroad in front of the Atlantic Council. In January of two, thousand, eighteen, he stood up with that famous you know Joe Torre Shaneco. Yeah. If he didn't fire the guy, he's going to be gone. But he's going to be gone in seven hours and then. Shangqiu several you're not the president and he said. Call on a phone call him. Language. Joe By. Doesn't have the you know watched act like that Joe Biden is a weak little man. That never took place that meeting. He incriminated himself with in front of the Atlantic Council. The thing that amazes me is he he admitted a straight out broad. He admitted I withheld a billion dollars unless you took official action that I require. That's the definition of bribery. Actually, they wanted to impeach president trump for. Impeach President Trump. But like buying become president because he actually did it. And the Atlantic Council sent there. And they yawned when he started. But. When the happen with President Trump. WE ENDED UP WITH A worldwide commotion until it was proved that it was not true. I mean from the very beginning, it was clear to me that this was a bribery case he admitted it. All you need is that tape the tape admits every department. Now we've got twenty pieces of evidence that prove it. We've got videotapes we have documents, we have checked messages, we have emails, we have direct witnesses about ten. This was a racketeering case should be prosecuted as Biden crime family, racketeering case. Racketeering just doesn't apply organized crime I prosecuted milken that way prosecute Boesky that way prosecuted. Wall Street. That way that's right and I prosecuted corrupt Congressman Commissioners Republican and Democrats that way. It's intended for long-term crimes associations. And this is a very long-term Crimes Association don't take my word for it take his word for thirty years. earned the money goes to the big guy. Splitting this guy is the public office old. Scratch defined as library unless we really have. Become so corrupt. That Democrats can do anything. They can be engaged in multi million dollar. Sales in the United States. Damage this does to our reputation. When our public officials act this way. In a place like Ukraine, we're trying to convince them to be more honest they laugh at China. Last us. We say China's corrupt and they got by right right you're right they buy. Expensive but we combine them. We had our own diplomats, Mr Mayor we I mean George Kent and others even even Amos hoax theme had warned a listen. This could be a serious problem. It's not like they didn't know and they just didn't care enough to do anything about it. They raised it as a conflict of interest. Whatever else they are they're intelligent that. You didn't know this was a bribe you should be working for the government. I mean if I had an assistant US attorney that look at this and couldn't figure it out with bribe I tell them to go right wills right. Mr You've been incredibly generous with your time. You have done Yeoman's work and exposing the second biggest scandal of all time after exposing the first biggest scandal of all time spy gate. Thank you so much for joining us on the show really resent you and I have to say Dan. Of all the people who have stayed with this from day one. Probably one of the one of the strongest one of the best one of the most articulate. And the one that really connects people. So I and the president you know the president appreciates it. And he doesn't appreciate it as a special favor. Appreciate your honesty and integrity. WHATEVER THEY WANNA say about Donald. Trump I've known him for thirty? Years. He's an honest man. He would never do this. I got. He's one hell of a father. He doesn't know all these facts yet. When I tell them all these fat. I almost didn't tell him because I thought. When he debater to me my rip his head off. There's nothing there's nothing there's nothing that bothers me more. Than parents that doesn't take care of their child that ruins their child because they're so narcissistic except career. And they want to be multi millionaires. Hunted by didn't have to be in this and if Joe Biden wanted to get his millions and millions and millions, there are twenty bag men around Washington would have gladly done it for them unfortunately. That's a great point and sad point but a good one. Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani a great man used to work for you cleaned up my hometown New York City I wish you'd go back and clean it up again. So Gosh, we could use you back there. Thank you very much. Sir We appreciate your time. We'll talk to you. And God. Bless you and I'm praying for you know that. Thank you. 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There's no long term commitments or contracts just go to stamps dot com click on the microphone at the top of their homepage and type in Dan deion stamps, dot com, and her Dan by Click on the microphone at the top of the homepage stamps dot com never go to the post office again now to our final interview in the show proud of this one and proud Steve Cortez does a great job for the trump campaign check this out. All right part of my election special degrade Steve Cortes a man I am pleased to call a friend one of the strongest advocates for conservatism out there Steve Cortes welcome to the show my friend. Dan You're a great. American thanks for having me. Let's together with the audience. Make America great again, a listen man fingers across toes across legs or everything that can be crossed is cross. The alternative is disastrous. Love you on television Cable News and radio I really believe you are one of the strongest advocates for the President is growth agenda out there. It's why I wanted to have you on for our election special here. Let me get right to it. Listen obviously the media sucks I mean we can just get past that. Now we need to you know they're terrible but what are the things that really bothers me about them as they haven't nailed down yet Joe Biden on his cataclysmic middle-class tax bomb coming. He said Steve Repeatedly he's going to repeal the trump tax cuts. Now, anyone can go to the Internet and look up the trump tax cuts. It's not hard and you could see that the middle class got a huge tax cut. So if Biden's go to repeal them, doesn't that mean by default that Joe Biden is going to high taxes on the middle class. Right where you don't have to be a mathematician to follow that logic a lot right eighty, two percent of American people got a tax cut got tax. Because of the momentous 2017 tax cuts, and by the way, let's talk about just how effective those tax cuts have been twenty thousand nineteen. So those tax cuts were in two thousand seventeen didn't really start to take effect until twenty eighteen and really kicked in by twenty thousand nine, which was also the last full year that thank goodness we were free of China virus before we were invaded with this terrible virus and in Twenty nineteen what happened? Well, it was the best year in American history for workers literally now, my opinion, that's what the numbers tell us six point eight percent wage growth an all time record by a mile even. Better than that Dan for the deplorables for blue collar people, nine percent wage growth minorities did better than the average everyone did well, okay. Look we. We don't WanNa put people in the silos and only view that way by identity politics. Everyone did well the wealthy to the most modest earners but the point is this strivers the economic underdogs, the people who had languished so badly lagged behind during the slow growth years that Biden was in the White House those are the people of who leaked to the front because of those tax cuts and I don't want just brag about the past it's happening again right now for example to. Bore your audience with my data but I spent twenty five years on Wall Street. So I spent a lot of time watching the numbers and these numbers lately they are defying Wall Street expectations by the way to define all of the Scottish who thought that we could never get this much ground back this quickly, we know we still have work to do. There are still too many people who are out of work right now because of what the Chinese Communist Party did to the world, but we can also rightly celebrate the amazing economic progress right now in this country and it's particularly due to the open states, i. Call them the Liberty States places like Florida which has opened aggressively, and smartly an economy economy is absolutely humming. So because of this, for example, manufacturing wages just in September, most recent report, hit a new all-time high there up eleven percent so far average hourly earnings for production people not the managers production people in manufacturing that rate, and that's including the pandemic eleven percent so far in the trump presidency and and that rate is fifty percent better than the last four years of Obama Biden and I I say the last four years because I'm trying to be fair here and not Cherry picking penalize them for the Nine recession so. They won't be fair to you I that's very nice. You a noble man I, give them nothing I screw them tired of them but that's very generous. You're a more noble guy than me in that respect but Steve doesn't it infuriated listen my listeners here this every day on my show on my daily show this. The media drives me nuts but this one thing drives me crazy because it's such a simple question that you know I'll be fair from it at Biden could clear up right away. Biden could say, Hey, I'm not gonNA repeal the trump tax cuts because they are tax cuts for the middle class and I'm just GONNA high taxes on the rich with a new bill. You know why he won't say that because they'll have to acknowledge that the media that trump cut taxes for. The middle class that's why he won't answer Becua- that's what I want to pull my hair just ask them the damn question. So you're not going to repeal the taxes just say it right and the media look unfortunately they are all too willing to be complicit in Joe Biden's lies. Let's face it Joe. Biden. Started his entire campaign on a lie on the I think the most malicious lie in American public life, which is the fine people hopes the lie of Charlottesville the. That president trump praised violent bigots in Charlottesville when in fact he said the exact opposite he condemned them totally an explicit terms. So he has been spreading that lie with the media's assistance since the very beginning of his campaign. So unfortunately, if they're willing to spread that live that toxic lie is so divisive and untrue just totally proven untrue. Then of course, they're willing to also help him spa spread lies that probably aren't quite as bad regarding taxes. It's very clear unfortunately that we don't really have. A journalism very much in this country certainly, not in the legacy outlets we do in in platforms like yours but not in the legacy outlets, they're completely corrupted. They're completely on the tank for Joe Biden, and we see it nowhere of more exemplified unfortunately than their intent to completely ignore the biggest story of this entire campaign, which is, of course, the revelations about the Biden cartel selling us out to communist China. Oh we're going to get to that I got Rudy Giuliani on this show too so. You're on wheel. rockstars. Kid. You're right. You're prager you video about the the the hoax about the fine people hoax is amazing and if you have not seen, it just put in a search engine Steve Cortez prager you. Steve eviscerates this ridiculous lie with the actual transcript and footage. It's amazing Stephen Use it on my show you're right the media is horrible One of the other things you're a data guy I'm a data guy but really data doesn't resonate with and it's People's fault. They've got games to get to work to go to don't want to sit and go to portal's of data like we do what are the things I saw though that surpasses any kind of wonkery just really hit me hard the other day in the Wall Street Journal was this number. Under Donald Trump, we have seen the lowest level of black unemployment since World War Two forget about data. That's. Right. That's a powerful powerful piece of information there that really I hadn't even heard. I knew it was good. I didn't know was that good. Right, now it's incredible. In total, let me give you a similar number for Hispanics. I care a lot about this facts of. Panic before Donald Trump there was one month ever because of course, payroll reports come out every single there was one month ever in two thousand, six or Hispanic jobless rate was below five percent one ever under Donald, trump there have been twenty six of them. I, mean think about that. So the other forty four presidents stacked up one month under under five Percent Donald Trump twenty, six of them it's amazing what he's done for working class people whether they're white or brown or Black or purple. This is a president who rewards working class people and creates the conditions for them to thrive and succeed the economic strivers, the deplorables, and by the way to contrast that with Joe Biden again I think this is really important for us. We had here into the home stretch to contrast it with his record of economic failure. The Biden Obama years were great for the already successful because you had a lot of asset inflation. So if you already own a lot of. Real estate and a lot of stocks. These were salad days for you Obama and Biden. But but workers languished and to put a statistic on this only ten percent only the top ten percent of earners saw their net worth increase throughout those eight years ninety percent of Americans. Most of US folks saw their net worth decrease over the eight years and it was even worse for Black Americans. Blacks saw on average a thirty percent reduction in their household net worth under the leadership. Of the first black president. So think about that while it was certainly a real symbolic victory for America to elect a black man and it was by the way for our country to prove that we are no longer a racist nation. That was quite an achievement. However, what did he do once given the levers of power and wants giving control policy? Unfortunately, all he did was delivered for credential elites on the coast ignoring workers including a lot of black and brown people to Steve another. Data point fact that really blew my mind without getting too wonky here is they just did one of these real simple poles hey, is your life better off now than it was four years ago that traditional question that everybody always celebrates if you're doing well and you get over fifty percent, we're in the middle of a pandemic president trump scored fifty four percent think about this the processes for a minute we're in the middle of one of the worst pandemics in modern history and it was so bad at the end of the Obama administration that even now fifty four percent of people like now I trust president trump more than the Obama Biden people. Right. It's really it's astounding and it shows you a couple of things. Number. One is what kind of strength we came into the pandemic with. So thank goodness right that this country was humming economically on all cylinders So while what has happened in the challenges that we faced have been terrible for this conference 'cause a lot of real misery out there particular economically health wise of course as well. But the good news is Donald. Trump had US coming into the storm. In such a position of strength that Americans still report even with the challenges of twenty twenty that the solid majority are better off than four years ago also to put that number in context I think this is important because they've been pulling on it. You know Reagan used that line largely to win as a challenger nine, thousand, nine, hundred, and so from nineteen eighty-four on Gallup has done this poll every election year and of sitting incumbent US presidents nobody's ever been north of. The high watermark previously was Bill Clinton in nineteen ninety six when the economy was really rocking and he got to fifty. So not only is this a terrific number and a terrific affirmation of president trump as the prosperity president but it's also a standout number contact compared to historical norms. Yeah. Yeah. No kidding man. Really it really is. It's stunning number we had Robert. K.. Leon. From the Trafalgar Group One of the few polling outlets that actually called 2016 everyone else of course was all over the map and wrong about now president trump. He thinks that president trump could get fifteen possibly more fifteen to twenty percent of the black vote, which would be a historic in modern times accomplishment by GOP, candidate are you guys feeling the love out there from the black community? I'll tell you I. Am I got a lot of listeners who happen to be Black Hispanic and I've never seen anything like this. Yeah, listen I I think blacks and Hispanics. Number one, they're tired of the Democratic Party taken for granted number two. This is not your parents or grandparents Democratic Party. So a lot of traditionally minded blacks and Hispanics and I'll speak for Hispanics. You know listen I think that we are generally a very conservative people politically religiously. And culturally, and so a lot of Democrats are a lot of Hispanics who used to vote democratic but have traditional minded values sort of traditional religious blue collar type values. They have found themselves effectively politically orphan by the twenty twenty Democratic Party as it lurches leftward and as it embraces of the terrible policies of the so-called squad I. Think the same thing is happening among a lot of black Americans. A lot of black men. One thing we're seeing an internal polling is black men are really starting to trend our way and I think it's it's primarily whether it's black metastatic than white men. Primarily, particularly younger ones it's the aspirational aspect of their life that they want to build wealth they want to make money they look at Donald trump is a man who did it himself in his private life and has now as a public servant creating the conditions for others to do it. You know and Look I. Don't put too much stock in celebrities but I do think that people like a fifty cent coming over and saying I don't want to be twenty seven. I think that resumes you know. Twenty seven said which was brilliant. He's like I don't want to be twenty-seven wealth and you know it's funny when the even Cardi B. who is endorsed Bernie Sanders. All kind of leftists nuts and says crazy stuff put out a video awhile ago when she actually looked at the Democrats tax plan I don't know you remember she was like, why am I giving you all my taxes, which is like I don't get it. How are you voting Donald Trump listen i. Just want to get two more quick things in. One of on this obvious disaster with hundred. Listen I get I've had addiction in my family. It's a horrible thing and I certainly don't mean to pile on but that's not an excuse. Steve. I mean. The man's father who he clearly was involved in a business relationship with according to people involved with them is running for president. These are fair questions. It appears right now to me, and this is not hyperbole that Joe. Biden is a national security risk to the United States. I mean you normal as common sense people after seeing this betty of information that have come out after ask themselves, what else do the communist Chinese who appear to have been in a business relationship with them have on the Biden family? This is serious stuff. Oh, it's. It's absolutely deadly serious. You're right and and you're also right you know there's a phrase that there's never one cockroach i. think that's probably true. Just what we know is so damn thing about what we potentially don't know and listen I really pushing on our campaign is trying to frame this as we're not really concerned with hundred. Okay. He has his issues. He has dealt with addiction like millions of Americans. He's lived largely a depraved life that matters to voters that's not relevant. He's not on the ballot Joe. Biden is the reality hunger. Biden was just a bag man. Okay. For the Biden Cartel, the head of the cartel is Joe Biden and what we now know we previously had been able to factually ascertain that Joe Biden had awareness of his sons nefarious corrupt business deals all over the world including with the two most dangerous enemies of the United States Russia and China, but we now know. because of this bombshell report from New York Post, and because of the surfacing and the effective public testimony of Bob Alinsky who I believe is really a Patriot and doing the honorable thing here he has come forward on the record as the CEO of the Sham Company that was set up to facilitate the gripped of the passage of many millions of dollars from the Chinese Communist. Party through a Chinese energy company directly to the Biden family. He has come forward to validate what already unnamed sources had already said, which is that Biden is the. Big Guy. He's the big guy in the e mails the explosive email stating that he gets a ten percent cut of this scam and this isn't your standard gripped Dan I think this is important point out. We're not talking about a Canadian Telecom Company who wants some influence for an se license Washington. DC. Okay. That would be bad enough. We're talking about the most dire enemy. Of the United States, the Chinese Communist Party and they were able to buy access and influence with the second most powerful man in the world who could potentially become the most powerful man. In the World Joe Biden is disqualified from being our commander in chief with just what we know right now Dan he would be unable to get a security clearance to even work at the lowest. In. The. or in. Your he would I I was a recruiter in the secret service. He disqualified immediately exit question I know you gotta run. We're talking to Steve Cortez spokesman for the trump campaign. Steve How's your out the vote going on listen to turn out this is a base election house turn out looking. Great because we've been investing in that as a campaign for months and actually four years. So the Biden campaign has a top down strategy. They raise tons of money from powerful interests which doesn't surprise me. Hollywood Wall Street oligarchs and they're spending it top down meaning they're spending a I'm rarely TV advertising. We are a bottom up movement of the deplorables out there we've. got. Grassroots enthusiasm like you can't believe others give one quick last example for the audience out there. I. Have yet to see a single biden flag and I've traveled a lot around this country I have to trump flags run of middle class homes behind pickup trucks going to work worksites behind luxury yachts I've seen trump flags everywhere. I have not yet. You Know Biden flag. No kidding I've seen him on planes, trains and automobiles Steve Cortez, you'd never disappoint again you really made our show. Terrific. Thank you for making a terrific closing argument why the trump prosperity agenda is the way forward you're the best buddy thanks for joining the show. We appreciate it. Thank you, Dan. God. Bless you. You just heard Dan Bongino.

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The Masked Singer | Season 3 Episode 10 RHAPup

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The Masked Singer | Season 3 Episode 10 RHAPup

"Hello and welcome back to the mass singer. Hops pop jazz where? I don't know if you've heard where the super nine We get to revisit people who we have not seen on the show in quite some time and we get to talk about all the nonsense situations that the show put us in in a very fun but somewhat uncomfortable to our super nine. I am your host the rubber chickens and Mickey. Leigh and I'm not going to try and do the April fools thing of. Oh I don't have a co host this week or so co-host left and now we got a new co host. Is the one person always here? Ready to talk singer with me. It's Liana the whoopee cushion or Liana. How're you doing today? You might have to find a new CO host. This is so boring clue. Packages were literally just recaps within a quote unquote super clue at the end. There was so much filler. I totally felt you with the the the in betweens with other contestants when they swapped masks April fools day got cancelled because of covert nineteen. I know that they've filmed this way before. This was ever a problem but still. It's no Eric from San Bernardino but my God off not okay. So the April Fools yes. It is an insensitive time to be trying to pull the wool over ones is when the reality of the world is harsh as it is but it's just be cancelled outright. Why do we need a day where everyone is going to go out of their way to out? Dick one another. I'm not I'm not about that life. I'm not about the. Oh I have an announcement to make on my facebook just kidding. I didn't do that. They said I was going to do. Or Hey just did a new thing and it's like a picture of like the net flicks head studio checkout. Sorry kidding don't have a show. I'm actually just sat on looking for attention like why April fool's Day it was created by. Hallmark is a ploy to sell cards so that that is true. You're trying to fool me. I know that's a Valentine's Day thing that's not a theory. It's not as April fools and birthdays. Okay no home. Yeah no I can't even dive into. I can't believe I'd rather celebrate Arbor Day. Let's go plant the trees stopping dicks to each other. We get started petition to cancel. April fool's Day you know. My grandma's birthday was on April fools. Day Yeah on. We should have that day known as your Nana's birthday not as April fool's Day and not as the Bananas Birthday Nana's birthday I. I just WANNA keep bantering. Because I really don't want to start the show by talking about the ABC parody which was just bad so bad. I've heard Wanda better lyrics and it was. They put the lyrics at the bottom. And so you could see how they're trying to stretch it like be named can John. They named Nick Cannon and they named Jenny not even her full name. Because it wouldn't work but just Jenny so Nicole Scherzinger Robin Thicke weren't even mentioned in the parody. So that was the thing. I think it's one of those things where they're like eight so we need. We need a song for the three groups for ABC. Oh my God wait. Abc EASIEST ONE. Two three okay. That's the song we're using and then they did the lyrics because it was not well thought out. The only thing that I thought was smart was the ABC thing. And that's part of the actual song I will say. I like the concept. Okay really loved the concept just the execution was a little. I like the idea that I like the idea warmer performance singing together. But I don't like actually seeing that I- performances together right well or in a music video type format the cream of the mask crop. That's a phrase that was said this episode. Let's pretend that I. It wasn't so the cream of the mountain mass top. What are you even talking about? You know the top of the mountain. I don't know basically these added mask to it to make. But anyways Eric from San Bernardino was an upsetting segue because I genuinely would have loved to see Snoop Dogg on the panel but it wasn't snoop Dogg. It was annoying. It was very irritating and I was very you block. Here's what you don't do my singer. You don't advert you. Don't pretend there's a panelists that actually makes the panel exciting for a change and then take them away from me and tell me necessarily enjoy the next hour and a half with just these four people that you've seen every episode. Yeah I get that I think I would rather have okay so in my ideal world I would rather have had snoop dogg but if they're going to play a prank the fact that they picked not a known. Snoop Dogg impersonator. But just Nick Cannon's Buddy I San Bernardino which I loved it. That was his name. Eric from San Bernardino. That was that did make me laugh. In retrospect although yes it would have been better to have snoop. Dogg here yes. I'm just sad. I like Snoop Dogg and I approvals April fools however when I also don't approve of we're really starting on a negative. I had fun with the subsidies. Want to put that out there before. It sounds like I'm just coming in here. Salty but so the format so this is what we're doing tonight with this episode. So we're going to go through the first three performance all group. A and then there's GonNa be a vote and the bottom from group goes to the bottom great and then Groupie and a group C. That's how that's GONNA go. What did you think of this as a way to go about dealing with the supernatural? What is the point of having it still be in groups a B and c? But yet you're going to call it the super dyers or all performers together. But you're still gonNA divvy them up. Was it like a filming thing that they had to film over separate days or something like that so they wanted to all group grouped together. Be Together see together. I don't get it. Why couldn't you just vote for the worst performer at the end? Or something like that. Maybe it was to me like too many performances. They wanted to let the audience vogues otherwise they would forget like. Oh Group A would get screwed or something like that. I don't know but like I I don't get it then as possible but I just think that they they really messed up. I mean they really did. Advertise this as a super nine as if a super nine is a thing and by last week I was. Yep the super nine. That's what it is and that's what I know. It has and even the car on the show when we went to commercial domestic or super-9. Good Marketing to get that to become a thing with they failed to do was make it matter because all it did was hit the bottom three from each group against each other and that doesn't really matter ultimately and it's not like this format is going to continue because spoiler alert next week we're going to go back to two groups of four we are. Yeah so that's the format next. Week is two groups of four with the return of the smackdown. Oh well good thing. We had the super nine then like whatever I mean. Okay look here's the thing I don't come to Massingir for logic. Okay come to the mass thing. Oh yeah that makes sense so you know what it's fine. It's fine everything's fine doing. Oh who's going to be in what group that is a good question. We can look it up at some point before we dive into the questions. Okay so we haven't talking about the warrant happy about. Let's talk about something that hobby were both happy about? And that's the turtle. What did you think of the turtle this on this episode the Super Nine Okay? So first of all. We're not I don't know how you want to do it. But I got nothing from the clues so I'm is just a recap of clues and then we got the one super clue at the end. Which is that. He's a Superhero. Right or like played a superhero or something so superheroes so he is so. I think for this episode weekend will go in. It's the turtle and then if you think of any clues that stood out to you talk about them otherwise you can just say your general thoughts about the performance and all that so last week Liana bars. You mentioned that you are not gonNA look at the visual clues anymore. Going to focus on the audio and now you're telling me that the Super Glue was comic book thing. No the super clue. He said confession. This is not another teen clue. Okay but either his confessions. No it's not. Usher don't even try and Segue. There wasn't all that much with these with these clues. The packers were kind of formatted in a bit of a recap. I assume so that people who have missed out on any episodes can come back and see what's been going on since they left and The turtle talked about doing ten K. Runs in preparation for these shows with the with the bad like with the costume on and they do Corio now even though they're not a dancer just talking about what they're doing to get to the performances that they've been putting out so which doesn't really help and figuring out the identity of the person that just kind of gives you an insight into what they're doing so yeah you're right. Yeah only clue. Was the super clue that was added this week and even that. I think a couple of them were strong for other performers. But this one didn't really give me anything to work with any say. This is Jesse McCartney think I believe so? Okay Yeah I don't know I have no idea. I got nothing from this but the performance. I really did like this. Reminded me of how much the turtle and feel good about his chances to go pretty far in the competition. I thought that it was a great song. Choice that that was a good performance and plus the performance quality here was wow just amazing which I did feel bad especially for the Kangaroo. Who goes names like sorry? You don't get a choir backup dancers or like Confetti. We'll say the backup dancers look like decorations. You could find Kia like little red men with the heart thing on it. That didn't look like something you can find. Kia think you're looking at the heart. Like logo read people. You know how they have the the for the Scott this for sketching movable guys to idea oh I know but it just doesn't it just it looks like whatever not important anyway. Yeah I thought this is a good performance. I feel good about the turtles chances so I thought the performance of higher love by Steve when it was very nice. I like the I like this rendition of the song and I do agree. I think that they like the turtle through everything in the kitchen sink. Into this performance it felt like there was a disco ball that I was into the background. Had these big hearts that was great and like you know all of that and the voice from the turtle was incredible across. The work was great. It was a lot of razzle-dazzle with choir there I always I was into this. I could see the turtle making it to the final two is what have my notes. And that's how I feel. I agree the background dancers. Were like creepy to me. They I know they're supposed to be like romantic because like the heart motif but they just looked creepy and there were read more suits. That doesn't do anything for me. So that was probably the lowest point performance for me. Everything else was an ace so overall I really liked it and like I said final two as possible reason our final who's because unworried about the turtle having a very similar to the rottweiler which I was not happy about last season and I will be happy about this season even though I love whereas in the final two anyways well I think the morph suits. They must've gotten a deal on at some point in time they were like by one in every color because they have so many different more suits balls. Oh the Oh we'll talk. Oh honey I have feelings about. The inflatable suits the block. Ip's feeling I got a feeling of ood awful saw that inflatable seats. They're gonNA wait. Tonight's my try on Gandara well so when it came to the judges and their comments in guesses we learnt that there is a new thing this week. Not No. They're not going to get April fool pranks given to the judges. They're not gonNA do that but they're gonNA do is say one thing that they're not. I enjoyed this. I think this was a very fun way for them to try something. New and in the cases of some of the performers genuinely helped me narrow stuff down and you know eliminate complete justice that were going the other way so. This is a fun element for me. How was it for you well? It was really only helpful. I felt like for the banana. What was the turtles? I didn't even write it down. It was something about like. I'm not just known for one thing right. I'm not known for just one thing which thanks I mean. It's a good one. If you consider the fear someone was focusing on just like actors. Or just singers. Oh no no no. This is someone who might have done both. So then you start broadens your horizon. It's like okay so they are singer but do they have an IMDB page and look at Real Quick. Oh you know what they do have an MD page. Okay so I'm trying to figure out so it's good. It's good if you're focusing on one thing. I guess I'll see I mean despite all that can still has brun literally when pretty sure only the boxer boys Indus- nothing else sees only known for one thing so is drooling Shea. I mean he's known as part of the band ninety degrees but then also Niklas brothers. So that's too thanks. Does that count? Yeah I think so. Oh my gosh. Another reminds me of in. Love is blind. When Vanessa shows like I'm Vanessa Lucia inequity. Obviously Nick O'Shea yeah. They were choices for the as the host for that show. I'm obviously what's Nicholas's brother Bryan Bryan grew? I wanted to. Who are the other two ninety degrees? I honestly cannot even tell you I would if someone was like. Hey who is ninety degrees? I'll be like Oh. Yeah that's Nicholas Shays Group. I wasn't his brother and that would be the end of the conversation. Nicholas a Drooler Shea. Kevin La- Shea and Jolie Shay Yeah but only two of them were in the four. No not all four of them. Go check in drill. I'm looking I'm looking at the WIKIPEDIA page right now. Jeff Timmons and just in Jeffrey or the other tools. Are you frigging kidding me on April Fools Day so stupid people digging each other? Then you're GonNa give me on April Fools Day also April third third. Oh happy April third. Okay whatever I get it. You just work for Hallmark. Now is our. You're trying to tell me a while. You're not getting April Fools Day card this year buddy you why would you April Fools Day? Me I'm making April April fools. Jj Okay we'll put this okay so you're pro April thousand and even a good pray that was banter amongst friends. Okay as April third. We are playing a game tonight with a bunch of people's on trying to play. Nice right now because I'm not about to get whatever you get. Outta here I will. Don't even try me. Bro. Dobro Fam- anyways. We're GONNA move on shut up so so yeah. Jewish a was Robin Thicke. Brian Latrobe was Ken. Steve My day was Jeff. Timmons or just Jeffrey the other two. I hate the episode interludes. I mentioned this last week. I know you've come around to it but it just does nothing for me. It's not funny. Oh we're the four performers that we've swapped masks around your the Rhino Not. Now Ha no. It's not great. I can see the appeal as it is a family. Show that in a family. It works at understand that this show isn't made for twenty eight year old puja but I have. I have a right to express my like my dislike that of online. Or even your unlike unlike now we can talk about the kangaroo and the kangaroo is here to bounce back after being vilified by the kangaroo rumors and they've been put through hell last year and they're super clue was a little inflatable kangaroo that they got on sale somewhere and then set. Alright dolls do you know who I am now. Question Mark I think this is just. The kangaroo has a baby which is super useful because no one has kid this new. We've been new. She's already said little room before. Rising the thing. Yeah this is a super bowl. It's gotta be something New Right. No I mean I would assume so too. Oh Okay so oh okay all right I get it so you're saying it's new so that means it's not about a baby it's about something else. I would hope so if it is. The baby got irritates me because hey we already knew that So I don't know are adults someone's catchphrase. Someone says all right dolls may be. I don't know I personally don't really have any strong of a guest. I go back to the whole being vilified by rumors of being put through hell when rob was our guest. The first week I went down a rabbit hole of trying to find Hollywood's biggest beefs from the past year and I landed on the Khloe Kardashian Clo- recording one of them versus Jordan Woods. Who doesn't have a wiki page so I can't even try and like verify but that is the closest I've come and then we her clue package back in. What does the absolute three where they? They're like their brother was like a plant person and it looked like it was a cabin in the woods and like the last name as woods. So that's kind of where I'm squatting for now. I don't feel that strongly about it but I have zero other directions. I take so we'll see where it goes. Kangaroo still an unknown for me yeah unknown for me as well I have no idea. I've no idea who this is. We could limit it to people that have children. You know so. That's helpful dude. I don't know this episode was a struggle. It was so much filler. Look I love the massing? Come on man. This is a lot I think. Having it'd be a two hour episode with one boo and the format was not great so there were some choices such as that could've made to spruce it up but it did drag a little bit and I can't imagine we watched it later with no commercials. I can't imagine watching it with full commercials to for two hours. Yeah ferrall yeah but Liana clearly not stranger to making enemies of the song was not ready to make nice by the dixie chicks. I don't really know the dixie chicks or listen to the dixie chicks but I love the kangaroos voice. I really enjoyed the chandelier and the on the stage and the background I love that but ultimately it was pretty home basic of a performance not a bottom three performance by any means but also not a top three performance it was a very very decent middle performance and production that went into the turtles performance. We got a little bit of pedals. Further kangaroo and that was it bad like they used up all their production budget on the turtle or or the Chandelier. Just cost a buck and a half. They clearly didn't get that at the knockoff. Wish dollar store so Yeah I thought this was a good performance. I really love the dixie. Chicks chicks. I love the song so I was pleased to see it especially because they thought she was. GonNa Sing Rachel. What's her faces? Fight Song based on her clue package I was. I was pleased that she chose the dixie chicks. I would completely agree with you. Literally wrote overall decent probably a middle slot so I think I have the feeling that the kangaroo isn't going to be one of the few Or well we'll talk. I think she should fall in the middle. Okay Yeah I think yeah if we power rank them. She's between fourth to seventh right. I would agree that yes I would agree that Yes yes yes okay her facto so her what are you not are what you are not known four or whatever that was she said. I've never it's because I short formed into my notes after the first one and I wrote W Y N and I don't remember what stood for so if I go up real quick one thing you're not okay W there what? You're not okay. Whatever I've never lived in Australia. That doesn't help. I knew you Australia. I knew I knew. The kangaroo was just the choice so that was awful clue as a choice. Yeah so as Robin Thicke that we know. Now we know it's not a key as Alia is that's all would eliminate and adult the anyone who was on some of the guesses your but it was struggled for me agenda. Mccarthy woman amber rose no. It's not amber rose. I can I know that for a fact then. Leeann rhymes don't really know her Nicole. Guests in India are re was robin. Thicke which I also do not know her so I can't verify those clues to being close or those guesses to being close. Yeah it's definitely not amber rose and it's not no. It's not enough of them. I don't know I don't know who the last person is. But it's probably incorrect. That's just now. Write rhymes Leeann rhines. She's a singer. She liked part of a group or something. No she is like I mean not that I know of I. Think she's just a solo artist. Which honora country. Okay Okay Gotcha. Yeah sorry Leeann rhymes sorry then. Mean any harm or slander. How rude you're listening. I apologize so we're okay. You Better Apologize Lien so listen to this fine. The man of the hour the performer. Who Ends up saying. It's the white tiger I wrote. I don't care for the clue packages in my notes and then I just have the super clue which was Swish Swish. Which actually is a good clue because it's a new one and it talks about how I mean. If you figure it out obviously at the end they tell you that it was because he was a part of Katy Perry's music video for Swish Swish. And he was doing the the floss. Which is the backpack. Kids dance was also in that video Yeah so I guess. I share similar sentiments. Okay so what do I have to say about the white tiger so you said in the pre show that you were going to sing right set. Fred's I'm too sexy into in White Tigers way so take the stage. Hush shut up. Why are you trying to April Fools Day? Two days later thing off. When did I say that win? Did I say that the seventy five dollar patrons will know that is a complete lie? This was a weird issued of what is already a weird song. All-sided I'm looking at the lyrics right now and I didn't know the lyrics beyond I'm too sexy for my shirt so this trip for me. Yeah Okay I wrote down here. Let me just okay. Let me just give you my notes that I wrote down. Okay I wrote. What the Hell am I watching dot? This is bad. What a waste of a good costume. Because I thought that the white tigers costume is a fantastic fans of the White Tiger. But it's just show challenging to listen to all the other performers here and be like. Oh Yeah No. I'm cool with watching this. No now also. This is the first one with the inflatable costume. And this I oh my God i. It was like the knockoff knockoff. Generic knockoff version. That mean that's like Oh when you order it online or like the wish me more. It's like Oh and you get it on wish or the mom we I want. I want an inflatable lion cost you. We have inflatable lion costume at home. What's at home this? Oh my goodness it was ugly. Why was it weirdly fat? It didn't stay inflated. Why was it on a stripper pole? I because okay. I got this one so your last question last question. Why is it dancing on a stripper? Pole coming to the main stage is the inflatable line stripper at main lines main. Listen I'm with you okay. I thought I saw my notes aren't too dissimilar from yours. I said what am I even watching? I do like the background but I hate everything else. And then what the philophical this inflatable lion stripper. And I didn't say fil awful it. It was a strange performance and I do share the sentiment of I don't want to like I'm not trying to rain on the parade of any White Lion Fans because people were gracious enough to let me enjoy my leopard moment last season but ultimately there's no talent here if I'm going to vote you through because you're saying too sexy for my party to sexy. Anyone can do that. I can do that. Anyone can do wrong. Scott the moves gronk thinking that his dance moves are unique is comical so no anyone can do that. What anything that GRONK can do. Everyone can do better so it was uncomfortable bomb. Yeah I was just like honestly I'm not kidding. If for some reason the white tiger survived this performance. I don't know if we should just clan so the podcast. No just for an episode. Because I don't think anyone wants the heroes complaint for an hour which feels that we've done fifteen minutes maybe twenty but like there was other stuff to talk and we got the Ken cut out. Oh Yeah can't cut made a return. I mean they have to make but this was a different one wasn't the other one big face cut. It was really giant face. This was like one of the ones that you have at the movie rental store. You know what I mean. It's like advertise like. Where did they even get that from a thing or did they actually make that? I think they must amita no. I don't know anyway so that was also a choice again. More filler. Sell fine fine. Well my favorite comment of the night from the judges was toward the white tiger. Where they said when you're seeing your like we'll just pick any note. Why are you wearing I okay? I picture the White Tiger going into going to a cupboard. Yeah y'all take this one. I think be minor plus Banjo music. Plus how about a little bit of give me a little bit of the William Hung Sprinkle? Yeah and then just a just a dash of nine year old boy dancing at a birthday party okay. Perfect Guy Walks. I don't think legally at counselors singing we had an adjudicator that'd be like this is not a vocal performances. Okay Yeah Things. Maury you called me Mori Yeah. This is not the father the father. That's Maury thing I get it but I'm calling Maury don't Mori me. If you don't know me I don't even know what that is. Well then doing what is happening. Sequester is getting to you know I think I think I think we need to talk about the one thing that the white tiger is not in the White Tiger said. I'm not just bronze. I'm brains I wrote a bestseller. Oh my God oh my God when he said that I was like okay. Yeah sure you wrote a book like you feel like you're listed as the author but you certainly did not write that book my God unless it's just a compilation of his tweet. If they're in which case then yes I would believe he wrote the tweets would even then just a small percentage of the time. I don't like it so. Jj Watt was a guess. Then Nicole Diaz Gino. Jj First of all. Let me just say this. I know that. Jj Watt was on the League. Jj Watt has more self respect. Then there's like no one would debase themselves in such a way like Gronkowski. Okay so clearly rob Gronkowski. I will not be the end for the landowner. Who IS THE HIPPO FROM SEASON? One Antonio Brown himself debase defaced. What did you say to based like base? No no debase. It means to re like to reduce the quality or like to make worse or he based himself and then it was all downhill from there. Well Yeah but you know I mean that was. That was different okay. There's there's no debate about it a debate about it. Okay Yeah So. Did you enjoy Nicole? Butchering all the names and saying Rob Gorgonzola Rob Garbanzo bean and then guessing Joe Macaroni. Which ended up being Joe Manganiello? Yeah I mean reminds me of neck. Macaroni so I'm okay. If your last name was a food what would it be? Zanu Akilah. That's hard. I feel like Paninis. Zan Julian Penny this on some yeah okay Zan Panini that's not bad. Okay we'll be flon flan clam clamp clam Panini okay. Yeah that's pretty close. Okay well Liana. Boris be Liana snore s stagnant. What's a food there is of? Boris Loris no schooners. The promise you haven't us show so it's hard to put those together. Only on a couscous. Yeah I mean. I don't have anything better so I can't really. Hey how's that this is the part where people are going to pause the podcast in. Addis with obvious names that were front of us the entire or they're just going to shut it off the podcast messing content here for whatever this is okay. Well if you're about to hop off much left all of you thank you for making it thirty five minutes in your view. Don't don't follow me on twitter. Just find our website. Do The rate and Review Rob's website dot com slash massing or one word Eliana. Ihop at all right. So where were so the clues the guess now all of those? And we get to okay. Who's the bottom? Who's the bottom three? Oh my God. Everyone's on their on pins and needles. Oh we're going to break before the guest reveal of course nick cannon. That's what you do best and then we come back and it's the white tiger no-one shocked. I was like kind of shock because bready just to be angry and disappointed. That's good that's good like set a low bar for you for it and then just be like all right. Look if it's not the White Tiger least I'm prepared to be angry but if it isn't like Oh yeah okay. Good great finally. The audience made the right call. So here we are. Yeah okay so that wraps up the group a folk and all right. So we're going to jump into group. B Here we have the kitty the banana and of course the frog now. Have you felt seeing our groupie friends make comeback here? Yeah it was nice to see groupie back. I mean. Obviously it hadn't been as long as Seen Group A so so. That's the thing that happened but for this one. I was actually really reminded. How good the Kitty is and this performance in particular solidified. How strong the FROG is. Because I didn't think that the vocal performances from the frog and the first set of a groups was particularly amazing but this one with jump by Kriss. Kross was so so good I think Kitty and frogger actually too long game contenders long game and game and I mean we. I saw the frog. You're very on the frog. And how was the one that was a little bit like now? I'm not really feeling it. And then ever since I have not looked back in it's been it's been a good ride but kitty someone think is being slept on. I think no no one's really talking about the Kitty and I think the kitty someone who is very easily a top five in the entire remaining cast and could honestly go to win at all. Even I'm old enough to say but let's talk about the Kitty right off the bat here. Freak flag fly was the thing that was said in the package that I thought could be a thing as starting young struggle to myself image and the super clue we had the The tree come out from last season and Katie said. Christmas is the most wonderful time of the year. Did any of those Speak to you and help you inform yourself or us of a decision on who could be. I don't know what I'm wearing at this point but we're gonNA run with it. I think hideous top four not just top five. I really really like they for the super clue. I thought that it could be a Christmas related thing. It could be an Anna Gassar thing could be an SNL thing. I wasn't exactly sure what the connection is. Part of that is because I have literally no idea who the kitty is but whoever it is. I'm definitely rooting for them. The Balls Kitty Cat. Yarn balls that takes to choose. It's all coming back to me by celine. Dion is amazing and she's just so so so sad what I'm saying that she could win on but I could also see her getting robbed at the end. We'll see how it all goes down. But so did you have any new feelings. You have about the clues we got. Okay honestly you know like I said I was so dry blacks from the Kitty. I think it's up one more seasoned so. That's that's how I feel. I know Mike said Sarah Hyland when he was on with us. I don't think it's our highland but You know the closer we get the more clues will. Maybe we'll get there who knows a but the kitty did. It's all coming back to me now by Selene Dion. I love her voice. She's nothing going for the whole time. He eater vibe which I gotten like. I think you can compare her like I think you can compare to the kangaroo in the sense that they both went more vocal based but the kiddies way better at both using her hocus to command the stage and the performance whereas the kangaroo has good vocals but doesn't really do enough to bring it all together in a collaborative process to make a amazing amazing So that's where that's where it's supper the kangaroos W mid-tier closer to the lower end whereas the kiddies top-five pushing top three. Yeah definitely one hundred percent. She's just a stronger singer and I don't know what was her clue. Her her anti clue talker a jet. I rule ooh yeah. That one's off. I have no idea. I'm sure of course when you look back on it. Oh Blah but like for now. I'd see Nicole Richie of Vanessa Hudgens. Murrah birds are Levin. I don't think any of the four Vanessa. Hudgens might be the closest one for me but not even a via the clues via who I think they would get. Who would be good enough of a singer to be included? Oh No it definitely can't be averill Levin because she's dead and has been replaced by Melissa in the absolutely very true conspiracy theory. Was that her name now. Turn on that. He's necessary totally real and it's about a good time as any to appeal away onto the next one and talk about the banana. I don't have all that much from the clue package of the banana. I wrote that. Imagine they were a party boy looking for a good time. And that there's super clue was A mullet so that's about as far as I got now. I personally do not have flu who this could be especially when we learned to about the new. What are you not clue for the bananas at Blue Collar? I'm a Funny Guy. But not a stand but not stand up funny. So that eliminates Jeff Foxworthy that eliminates any of the blue collar comedy tour which everyone was talking about so now I'm back to square one. Okay this is the person. I'm super excited to talk about because so I don't even know how to. How do I start this you know? How do I get so mullet? Okay remember how is on the whole like hairband thing? This is like weeks ago. This was so hard for me to remember clues but thankfully I have my trusty posted notes here so I was GonNa pick out episode of either rock of love or flavor of love or I love New York for you. Watch because remember. I'm going to get you to watch the classic. Vh1 reality TV shows. So I was able to find the first episode of Rock of love. I start watching it. Yes what is in literally the first like two minutes of rock of love. He built a motorcross track in his backyard for his two daughters immediately. My thought was the banana because remember when he had his like family members or friends come. It was his two daughters talking about how he built a race track in the backyard for them. I think it's Bret michaels which then totally fits with my other theory from before that. It's somebody who's in hairband empoisoned every rose has its thorn and others and so. I think it's Michael's I don't I can't I am not a big poison fan so I can't tell from the voice but from watching that episode of Rock of love. I mean come on in. It sounds like it does. I don't know if any of these facts. You're spitting are factual because I can't verify because I haven't seen rockets love but now you will. And then when it gets revealed that it's Bret Michaels you'll be like Oh my God. I'm so excited to watch rock of love what happens on seasons one two and three also. Because now you know. There's three days and spoiler alert seasons wanted to do not necessarily work out all that great for one Bret Michaels. Okay well I will get back to you on that when I eventually watch rock of love on I will say however that this was okay. The performance was fine. Ios Speed Home Alabama by Leonard Skinner. Those very clear before the July team performance there was the banana split. Obviously being a staple of it And being fetish is it was fine. It wasn't amazing. The sexy Mac. Tonight's were out thing happened. They need to retire. That mask on replacement something else. I'm sure there's better banana masks out but it's good to know that whatever costume store. They went to still recognize his MAC. Tonight as a thing but that's about all her woman. Bananas I know I know we make the joke that they're Mac. Tonight masks today very much look like but they're not moons. They're definitely bananas. I mean they're just Max tonight masks spray painted bones or yellow so really getting. Yeah well this is where I was talking about the deal on the morph suits because here. We have the picnic blanket. Morph suits that we have the dancers and but I thought this was a performance. This is a good song choice for the banana. I mean I still think he's probably like bottom two or three now that we know that garbage cat is gone. So I think he's probably GONNA be out next second next but whatever or Bret michaels or not but a good week for owners of Tigers Right. Brad Michael Tigar. No but white tiger costume was owned by Gronkowski. Who is out? Oh sure yeah okay yeah. Let's really tiger king because I think that's actually a requirement in media. Everything must be related to tiger king. At least one reference to at least one joke about Carol Baskin and her killing her husband her husband. Yes yes yes. Yeah and then yeah I think that's that's an issue to your in the minimum of your clearing. Okay got good gun on. Yeah so the judges went with Leon once again you and Jenny McCarthy cut from the same cloth you both think is Bret Michaels and Robin Thicke. Thinks it's billy ray Cyrus which I did not need to see the banana or Michael's twerk or booty pop or whatever that was supposed to be Yes sorry I was still thinking about the fact that Johnny stole my guess which I had that gas before because I have it here in on a post it note. If anybody wants to check it says motorcross track two daughters. Bret michaels banana and then I wrote. I drew a picture of a cube and then I wrote two to one and then I wrote quote Kinda not a great spot to be in which I don't know what those things referenced. But still I have the proof. The proof is on the posted posted. Note notarized and date stamped but this is more proof than you would need for Carol Baskin to prove murdering her husband. Look I tried to make a reference and I got confused. It's okay you try better next time champ Is there anything else? You would like to talk a banana here before we split. No let's not monkey around. You can't go while you think the next on trying to decide if the one you did was good or not. Cowan's monkey banana like play Word Association. Game what are other words that you think of? I don't know call me George because I'm very curious on what you just did. See but that's like a train of thought from the Monkey. So that gives validation to my monkey theory. What do you WanNa pat on the back? Like you WANNA banner behind. It would be great. I prefer a trophy but either way what would this trophy. Say Twenty twenty. Don't even think I deserve that. Um Man all right. We're talking about the frog now. Do deserve off on. Oh come on. I was doing done that one a lot. I hope you have a notebook out as I've got my lily pad ready for the frog. Read it Ribbit segue anyway so the frog so the frog is here and who better to talk about package of the frog and the number one frog fan. Boris No. You're the number one fan health. Would you brought your name now? Did you change your name? Congratulations although we'll get very confusing on the podcast. If we're both Boris would you like for me to take the reins because it sounds like you're trying to avoid talking about the from no okay? First of all super clue night. Don't know what that means. Don't care because I want to talk about the performance which first of all jump. I Criss Cross aim. Mazing song choice by the frog was so good. It proved that he can sing. He CAN DANCE. He can sing wall doing the dance which I would say that. Probably my biggest criticism of the frogs I mentioned earlier was his lack of singing ability. But this to me was a Fox level performance. I really really liked it. I don't know if that was the fact that they had some time off and we know that when they filmed previously it was essentially re performances. Like back to back to back. You could have just been tired but frog being all rested. Getting his share of flies is great and I really loved it. The only thing I have to complain about is the fact that is closed on backwards but I will survive okay. Well some of us have been in the frog. Is this season's the Fox camp? So it's nice of you to join US okay. I'm not permanent. Yeah okay but I don't Wanna I don't WanNa buy I'm just GonNa rent okay for now. No no because I'm not ready to commit to it yet. No lease nor rent you either buy or you go by okay. Finally I go bye bye bye bye go to the other camp. The White Tiger camp So yeah so. I thought this was a great choice for the frog. This was a very very very very good choice by the frog jumps is a very engaging song in that. It's a crowd pleaser. Everyone likes it. Everyone knows it remembers it and you can easily dance to it. You can show your chops with regards to wrapping or at least being very quick with the lyrics and the frog did a perfect job here kept up with some choreography dig gut. The movements even was able to show off in there. What are you not thing with the judge by saying? I'm not a trained dancer at all. So He's already dazzled them with the dance and that was a you know. This isn't even me my final form because it's not professional this just what I do you know as I do what I do so I loved it. I JUST. It was very fun. The dancers LoC- like pickles. The had become frogs so that was fun but this was a very very good performance for me. I I still maintain what I said. Last week I think the frog is to me one of the top contenders to take all because they are multifaceted and at the end of the day they turn out a fun fun performance for the audience. And that's all you really need to get the votes so very very happy with frog and also we bid New Orleans. I've been new died. This is still bow and nothing has changed for me. And that's where we're not. Yeah but the. The shirts were really ugly. It looked like someone just went to a screen printing shop and got lazy and just printed like crap which we just put jump on there. It'll be fine. Oh and don't even bother wearing a backwards. Come on how do you do crisscrossing not wear clothes backwards like what a missed opportunity for men is wearing a full costume. It's crisscross. They managed to dress up the monster in different ways. Fine don't even put just just put his jacket on backwards or don't even put his out on backwards but the backup dancers outfits on backwards all you. Pray can't tell that they're backwards. Says there dockers they probably were on backwards? There's just so ugly. Yeah that's the thing is like the the frogs wearing a suit jacket and if you put a suit Jerem backwards your front words. Show hands so him a different jacket. That just like did crisscross. Actually I think they actually turn their clothes around backwards. But that's not the point so him a jacket. That looks like it's backwards. You're really trying to split hairs here on the frogs performance China Nitpick a problem I don't get it. Well you know what I don't close backwards so okay. Here's an article from twenty thirteen. Chris Mac Daddy explains why he still wears his pants backwards. It's all crisscross. Has Criss Cross jump as a very one hit wonder? This is all they're known for. Of course I'm going. Wear their clothes. Backwards MC Hammer. Is the only person still wearing pants? Probably and and and crisscross don't have to wear a forty pound costume. Yeah okay fine and and you know what else is strange? In what world is Ken John? Thinking Cisco After Just One jab from the frog because of the Thong Thong Thong reference. Is that enough to get Robin Thicke again? Being the closest Amari on which I know this isn't but that is a great guest for the frog given what we know and what we are seeing. Yeah yeah all right well it might just be about four PM here but it is nighttime somewhere else. And where there's there's angels. Here's the night angel time actually. Maybe we should just quickly say banana. Is the bottom vote getter. But I don't think we're shocked where you shop. No I was not shocked here and very happy with the outcome. Say Very might say okay. So this is we take a break here. A word from our sponsors shore. Okay you know what that is a great idea Liana. We'll be back after we had a message from some sponsors and we're back thanks to Liana. Who Kept US on track? Yeah baby got back. Okay Well Okay Sarah Palin. Well baby got back tied. Five Sir Paola. Let's go just hate it when you wake up and you see Russia from Your House on what is happening. You hijack the podcast well. I'm supposed to be social distance. But that's just normal life here in Alaska. It's not me please please you. So the night angel got came through and talked about the avoided putting themselves front and Center for years. They helped others. There're success and also their fake accent is very annoying and then they're super clue tricycle. Now Liana as the number one now I know for sure night Angel Fan. What are you making these clues? Do you feel confident. And who this is enlighten us. Okay Oscillate between. I am one hundred percent confident. I note months lake can John. I know exactly who this is between ore. I've no fricking clue because all I hear when she sings is candy. Boris but then I see the tricycle. And I'm like I have no idea what that means like escape had four. People tricycles have three wheels unless there's a mini secret wheel I don't know about. I HAVE NO IDEA. I have no idea what it means. She is not a clown. What else do tricycles me a threesome. A threesome I don't know maybe cannabis has been in a threesome. I actually based on her song that I'm obsessed with that would actually make sense but I think it's Kandi burruss okay. You know what it doesn't matter you know it doesn't it doesn't matter because she's amazing and she's Mike Winner pick and I love her and I don't care that her Hossam looks like a sex doll with its open mouth. She's just amazing. So I don't know who this is but I also you said even if you don't know so you might not know that you telling me. There is a chance you might be wrong. I just want to get that on record. So that if it's not candy birds we can make fun of you. Yeah I mean look if it's not bars and I'm completely wrong which I very well might be. You are allowed to make fun of me but just like when she started singing high here but then I don't the clues me and then sometimes they hear singing a different way. And I'm like kidney pursing that way. I think so. I don't know but denied angels amazing that we agree on the night. Angel is amazing. I really really love her voice and and and I really really like feeling like I'm in the clouds which is what her background to me. Yeah the clouds those were heard. I liked it. I what I hate or the dancers. I don't know what the dancers were supposed to be. Not a fan of that but everything else I liked. I thought she killed it and I believe it was John who said by far the best vocals of the night which I would have to agree despite having heard the turtle despite having heard the Kitty I think the night. Angel is the strongest vocal performer. Oh yeah no one hundred percent. I love her so much. I really really really really really hope she wins. I don't know if it's going to happen but I really am rooting for her. I'm rooting for her. As von I would love to see Liana I however don't feel that she will win and shut up love. You have control over this oil. Yeah take it back. Don't put that out in the IRS. I'll take him so the the the night angel is not just voice but also mogul so candy. Peres's I'm Oh. So is Frankie `Grande. Yeah but he's a social media moat all I mean. He lives in social media. Mogul in two thousand fourteen. I feel like what is he. Maybe that he made me now. He's a mogul. Vogel Noah. What's Frankie `Grande up to that? One show on Amazon right like fashion. Show God. Sorry I'm looking at a picture of him from the Victoria's secret fashion show and it is uncomfortable. Burn with fire burner fire okay. Robin Thicke guesses the friend of candy from the Big Brother House. Hey Mark Braxton winner of celebrity big brother season two so maybe close no cigar Campbell. Was Ken Jones. Guess and I think right now as a podcast. We have the candy burs guests logged for. Now we'll see if anything else comes up we'll see you know what the biggest clue that is candy burs The stage she was singing on is shaped like an x man so they were all in escape. Every single person one. That's that's a fan of the band can be a member of the band right. Yeah well we know that. That's how the way that the clues work so we are all escape fan. We are all escape. Now that's what I want to do for my home escape because because of Helvin but everybody stay inside and wash your hands. Wash your hands. Maintain the distance and don't mess with the bull because you'll get the horns but not the bull's horns the Rhino's horn now. It's time to talk about a rhino well. What IF RHINO KNOW? Who WOULD RYAN? What do Reino? I don't know what's wrong with you. Rhino hardly no. No that is not a thing Ryan. No God I've Hung Up. Used the Rhino said that their journey is forcing them to grow and they became comfortable playing a role for a long time. They're super glue. I've risen of the the billboard chart you may have even you eat now. You may even have an album of mine and said you armories taking gambling type and then a slot machine was decided so now all of this month makes me want to circle back to my co host. Liana the whoopie cushion Boras. And say. Remember last week when you were talking about this being a baseball player that you were convinced. It was a Kansas City. Royals baseball player. How's that looking not so good? Oh yeah the fact that they were like you may have one of my albums risen up the Billboard Chart. I use even trying to make some bizarre connection to still make my theory. Work really really couldn't do it. Like what athlete would have some sort of album unless it was. I've no idea what's another. What's another album? Okay not a music album. But what about a photo album? Because he's on trading cards and he would be in a photo album his album. Yeah and plus risen up the billboard charts what other billboard charts what about Billabong Billboard Charts like the surfing company. Sorta chart sure that's true. I am a human being. Yeah I don't know he's not a singer no he's not an athlete. He's a singer. Bro. I don't know but the good news is the rhinos. GotTa be gone soon because come on. Yeah so aside from the fact that I enjoy seeing you e crow and the Rhino needs to evacuate the building again throws I rose I. There's nothing that's jumping off the page for me with the Rhino I. He doesn't do enough to stand out. He barely does enough to separate himself from the bottom tier. Like it's just okay like I was the opening for the for the For the song what a man to do. What's a man to do by the Jonas Brothers was? It was tiring for me. I didn't care for it. Then the inflatable dancers. Keep coming back. I just don't find a to me it's again. It's not enough Liana. He like we talked about how the frog engages the audience. The turtle engages the audience. The Rhino will do one head nod to the crowd and be like the audience. Work like that is not enough or the dancing. Oh I'm GONNA do is shuffle for like two seconds. Oh that's enough. I danced like it is not enough. I think they really did him. Nice in the production side because he had the golden background and the Confetti and like there was a lot of stuff going on visually that stuff like that could help down the line. I think obviously on the night. She was better than the White Tiger which is not saying a lot but moving forward. I think right now in my head and my heart truly the bottom two without though I tiger are the Rhino and the banana and Yeah No. I completely agree with that again. Like you said the Rhino. There's nothing wrong except for those ugly inflatable Rhino costumes. Again I go back to my room earlier about the inflatable tiger costume or lion costume or whatever the hell it was so ugly. And why are they so ugly? How how is that even possible? You tried to cover them with Confetti. Apparently which is why they use so much confetti because they're so ugly show distracting doors. They're here and I will say. The rhinos performance also got better when he had the musical backing tracks. I think probably says something about his performance. But I don't care because a stupid inflatable rhinos where they don't like them Z. Only inflatable costume. That has stood firm far and away. The best inflatable cost the only good employable costume. Is those dinosaur ones. Where the heads kind of bobby loose that actually was in the T. Rex's performance those. I've seen around there are mean. Those are great every other inflatable costume. That's an like Adema based or most link outer base. There never good. They're never good. They're like they don't inflate and stay. Inflated keep like coming in and out of inflation Not Good at one point there. Was this one sequence. Where like the Rhino was dancing and his two little back. O'brien was came up behind him. And we're dancing with him. And if fell off key because then the rhino turned around and they turn around too. Late was a stop bad. Yeah but it is bad. It's not a fan. I would prefer honestly. If it's just dancers with masks of like a rhino mask that'd be find like the MAC tonight folk. I would prefer that met his name. Yeah but the MAC. Time people are terrifying. Sure there's a cool rhino mask or like a rhino mask with glasses. Song just solving different. Maybe like if everyone last year had the Fox's kids masks that would be creepy. Don't do that but there's reason to believe that if you stop buying these inflatable dummy outfits you can easily use that money for good masks and then you know matching clothes for the dancers for each performer. That's it that's all you really need possible. Sam Smith was talking about the Ryan even though we don't care for him and his chances. Oh so the rider said and there. What do you not? What do we know about you? That is not true. Said I'm not nearly as tall as you think I am. Liana could this be. We talked about it at the beginning of the season to where they had sent. There are going to try and do stuff to change people's heights. Have we finally gotten someone who's either on stilts on platforms on something that's made them taller? This be one of the Rhino. Can't do more than three moves. Yeah that's entirely possible. Although did you see when he did his feet shuffling? Everybody was like it was a great lost their minds. Yeah I would actually be super super stoked if that was the case because I remember being so excited remember how your eyes. What are all the things that they could do and you said Yeah. They could make people taller and shorter and I was like. That's not possible. How do you make someone shorter? And right yeah. You can't remember you learned that you can't use it that I'm saying is on standby it is possible. No okay whatever so anyway. I'd be very excited. If that was actually the case I was trying to then pay attention to what the feet look like to try to figure out. Okay how how do you make lifts possible or something like that still? Don't really get it. I hope hope hope that that's the case. I also hope that that's the case and again. I'm just very excited to get more from the Rhino as far as clues hopefully more or performance or just find out who it is so out soon I I'm not. I wouldn't be surprised if we find that as soon as next week. Yeah Yeah we'll have to see updated so the guesses the judges made was Vince. Gill Duff McCain from guns and roses and Derrick jeeter again you Jenny McCarthy one soul one mind going with the baseball player so yeah it's a criminal. How you how close the two of you are in guesses. I'm deeply deeply embarrassed by this. It's a bird and I left with every day. So let's just move along. Okay Yeah Well. We'll we'll we'll move right out of this world because the last performer on the docket is the astronaut and more like Astra's not no astronaut. Good he was good. Okay then don't just I am. I am but I'm not what I'm astronaut sure. Sure that's probably the best way to respond. Sling worry on ashore. That's that's wow. That's so nice so the clue package of the astronaut actually gave me a lot to think about and allow me to piggyback. He piggy-bank a Lotta piggyback off of your guests from the last go around. Because I'm starting to think that you are on the money. I think you caught the astronaut. I think is Hunter Hayes. And here's why so. The super clue was a record being broken. And obviously that takes and there was the global on it so World Book Guinness World Book of Records. Breaking that that makes sense. Okay now if you look up. Hunter Hayes record break or world record. You will find that. He holds the records for doing most shows in one day. Would you like to guess what number that is? How many shows Stacey nine? I should know before I feel the C. You don't laugh don't Nelson. It was ten which we saw to dis. I'll snake is no two fives on dies. Snake is is now you said that first of all I said to Sixes to one okay. Right that were they did you. Do we really think there were two sixes. No I said Oh okay. So you're incorrect twice. Once you're incorrect in thinking that what I said incorrect was about incorrect. No sure sure okay. Don't go go flip your heart. No I don't bless my heart my heart on blessed thank you to fives equal ten therefore ten cities hundred as went through to break that record so that is what I think that means. Obviously we could be wrong. Because I'm following Liana. Guess Leon has got a couple of guesses in the air. That are not confirmed. Quite yet yeah. I think a lot of guesses that are totally right and I think I have a lot of guesses. It could be completely wrong so we just got to figure out what's what what what the second part of that don't do that song. I know where you're going. Okay so what do you think about the choice to do? Not give you up by Rick Ashley which Oh yeah do we. This is an April fool's day themed episode. We were talking about that. We did and to end it on. This was pretty pretty incredible. Yeah it actually was pretty incredible. I liked it. It was cool. I didn't realize it for the first second or so And I was like. Oh my God. No way we'd be enrolled. Yes and why was the performance seemingly shot through a different colored Lens? Did you get this where I guess it was kind of grayish? It was so weird I was like. Is he in black and white and there was like. Did they repaint his costume? Then I thought my TV was broken for a while. There was like what he's going on and then we snap back into color and then I was like Oh my TV fixed itself and then we went back into black and white. It was very very odd. Unlike the green lighting off the astronaut was always present. So I couldn't tell what was going on I think so. I don't think the mood landed. Footage was black and white right. Yeah okay so maybe a spoof on that or is there like more is it? I don't want to speak any further on the on the off chance likely chance that. I turn out the sound stupid. I don't want another snake. Eyes situation the moon footage landing wasn't black and white. It was it was in color because they filmed on a sound stage. Okay you stop with your conspiracy. This not bad podcast pod. Three no is like sorry okay. I can't classify what we saw as black and white anyways. I don't know what that was. It was like a bad instant filter. Yeah the only thing that was missing was instant on snapchat. I would've loved to find out which celebrity the astronaut is via the filter. That would have been fun. Oh Yeah if only they had done that. And it's not like they recorded this after the filters available but it's fine it's fine. I thought this was a fun performance. I enjoyed rendition of the song and I honestly think that the asteroid is getting better with each performance is this is hunter Hayes. Andrey's like the for the astronaut talked about how they were nervous and shy at the beginning and they were trying to find out truly. Sounds like they've figured it out and he's a singer. He is a world recognized singer so if he's getting better I think the asteroid could go far like very far and to the point where they could upset us and make it further than they should or will. Also the inflatable dancers are awful. I think here's the thing here's what we're GONNA DO. Okay as a podcast. I think we both recognize that. We have complained a little a lot about these dancers. So what we're GONNA do starting next episode. Just not gonNA acknowledge any inflatable. What no I don't agree to this. We should we should. We should have made it. Oh here's okay. Compromise has that's how the world works so we omitted but we each get one. This is the inflatable dancer. I want to roast for this performance. Why why to this? Because we're being nice. We're trying to spread the power positively and feed the positive to the community instead of being very angry about the inflatable dancers. Even though they are very ragent wannabe angry. Fine fine keeping the positive fine. Yeah we'll pay a thirty second like thirty seconds to just go on all of them or something like that. Okay Sure Yeah. And when you want to redeem the thirty seconds you say something like. I know exactly what I want to say now. Aside to like. Turn ON MY COUPON. Yeah exactly you gotTa Throw Your Voucher. Fine. Her Okay. With that being said we get to the? What what is your. You've never done which I should have written down what it was because I'm just saying different things each time. What is it that you've never done a who what are you not? And they said they've never had traditional voice training which again comes off a humble brag. Oh present you just did this amazing thing same with the frog. You just did this now. I didn't even get trained fan. I just woke up one day and I sang. And that's where I got and Robin. Thicke said something along the lines of while I was never have vocal training but I'd vocal strengthening. Isn't that training your voice? Yeah like what counts as training and then also same deal with the frog though like what? If you're a TOT CORIO BY SOMEONE. Is that not training? Yeah I don't know because it's like so it's like if you watch a video of like let's say a hip hop choreography of YouTube. Is that not counted as the same as going to a dancer? Who's going to train you in different? Sean different I think if you like Goto somebody who's going to teach you. That's different because news for Ya. If watching a hip hop corio video online is the equivalent to being a trained dancer then I am maturing and I trained dancer. Can you do that? What kind of dance is I? Don't know it's just the one video that I like because the guy at the end is like remember. Think you're amazing. He tells me that I'm amazing. And I liked that the you watch the same video. I don't really know I'm still really bad at the same dance. But Yes oh so okay. Yeah I only have one or two. I tried watching. I mean I have other ones that I've done before but I don't like them the one that I do all the time is the one where the guy tells me which now that I'm saying out loud incredibly pathetic validates me okay. Hey No this is a no judgment zone. You're getting getting out and you're getting dancing and one day you will perfect that and then you will make video teaching other people to dance and be positive. That's right yes now. Where were we with this? Yeah so vocal training. So they've never had tradition. They specified traditional so maybe they did learn off youtube. Who knows right so they're And then guesses were David Archer Leta g Shah's Aa Ryan. Tetter I don't I think it's none of 'em I'm so we should be good there any last words for the astronaut before we get to the ending of this. I think astronaut still market on the second attempt astro. No no you better don't so everyone's done performance. We get to the Group C determinations. What happened rhinos? Bottom three shocked very shock. Not really so then. We get to the bottom of the now. It's all the bottoms. So you got your white tiger the Rhino and the banana sending together and they decided this is a great moment to another April. Fool thing I felt so bad for the banana. This was awful. They faked them out as if the bananas in the bottom and then said no. You're not in the bottom. Something like this is exactly why they winnie to retire. April fools nonsense but not make it April third. No I was messing with you. That's different than doing an April. Okay got it. So it's okay to mess with me. Just not with Bret michaels and a banana costume. I get where I fall on the higher with me you sir. Where exactly which is a true statement? I don't understand why you're saying that I mess with you. A Happy April thirty two. Okay so the white tiger is in the body. The white tiger is getting plugged off and this is a glorious moment. We get to the final guesses. Two of them said GRONK. It was genuine robin. Of course it was Kenwood. Jj Watt and then negotiators who switched guest. Seventeen Times John Cena. I don't know why I think that. None of the clues onset of the Boston. They know the clues lead to John's book. What ever Yuji. Unicol take it off. Take it off. Its shock her. I couldn't belie could not be leave. A I am so happy that this nightmares. It took ten episodes to get the outcome. I wanted after one day. He wasn't in six of those episodes. But yes I understand he wasn't but the feeling cocooned through editing the padres. I kept finding myself at least once every episode saying why tire should be there or this was not as tight. Yeah so definitely living. My head read free. And I'm glad that I could affect the white tiger from my bed while I'm happy for you. Thank you so of course. We end the show as every week with the unmask performer. Doing the Salt Lake House. How does the song go again? How did ROB Gronkowski? No I'M NOT EVEN GONNA. I didn't even listen to this. I just turned it off. He's too sexy for his party. And now we are a little dance. He was so proud of so good grog so good speaker talking about stuff. I did check out his unmask interview on the sorry. I will like to throw. Psa to anyone that uses the APP on if you go and watch these beware that there is a small chance that Youtube is going to recommend it to you when a new video comes even if you have notifications off. I don't even subscribe to the massacre page. I just watched a video. I was recommended the master White Tiger Unmasked Interview. And I'm like okay. Thank you. This was Thursday morning so going into the super nine episode. I knew who was going and I was not happy but I was happy also annoyed. I wanted to get their organic so disappears that anyone. That's using the APP. The Youtube APP. Beware because could find okay good. Ps I've gone your gone ahead and turn off northern everything for Youtube out just to make sure that they're not get now. So then the interview Rob Gronkowski said. Experience has changed me in many ways and he was very excited he was just as all demeanor was very positive he said. I was taught by professionals. Real dance moves really enjoyed that. I really wanted that. I felt no shame because no one knows who is underneath the mask and when asked he said my highlight reel was my first performance of ice. It just felt like I was flowing. I got all the words. I got all the moves. I was in my own head. So wait is a trained dancer. If he learned from professional excited to take them into other avenues of his life and since he's retired from football I can only imagine that we're good to see rob Gronkowski on the next season of dancing. Now that's fine ano- watch that show so sorry at Mo and other people watch that show now okay so then. He mentioned he talked about some clues to the horse. Pin Yada was because he's part owner of a horse that's also called Gronkowski. So and he did split the Horace Pignon half semester and that route sixty six was. I'm six six fine. And the last thing he says is I hope the massing against this is an actual quote by the way. I hope the massacre gets picked up and clubs and bars and I can perform as the white tiger again. You think he legit once that that would be okay. There's very few things I would pay for. I would consider spending five dollars to go see rob Gronkowski performance the white tiger. It's cute that you think would cause five don. I had to set a bar somewhere so if if it costs eight dollars eight dollars. I'd go for eight dollars but like fifteen certain push it but I would like sit twenty. That's rough because you and I I would have to like forty dollars. Yeah Twenty Okay. So twenty if there's other stuff going on you know if it's if it's twenty and you get a free APP and unlimited skibo. Sure that sounds reasonable. And it's twenty just to see gronk performance. The White Tiger No. Yeah but think about the novelty of at all. Okay twenty-five no but anything under that we could answer. Do you think we started. Go Fund me. That's a refunded in this trying. Time I mean I know that taking Right now is the time to take footage of yourself with Tigers of any similar. So maybe there's not enough value in the twenty dollars at this point. Maybe if this was three months ago this would be no I mean we were also till areas to hear him talking about going to do performances now like I know that was filmed forever ago right like still. I just love that. He says I hope Massachusetts picked up in clubs thing like clubs and bars are green. Lighting shows like okay. Now we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA run syndication or friends. Oh drag race like I can. I can go to the gay bars here and watch drag race like the Yorkshire. Buffet has drag race and they have dry like shows that are around it. So maybe that's what it would be like. Nobody he said he wants to perform the way. Yeah exactly to bars and be the why he would go to the clubs and the bars as the white tiger and then people would watch the episode and then during the commercials he would do performances. You think that's what he means. Look I interpreted with my very limited world. Knowledge apparently must lay shaped by drag race. So yes okay well who knows what. Gronk is going to say and believe it or not. This is not the last time we're going to see the rock this week because he is hosting. Wwe's two-night event of Wrestlemainia this year Fine I know you've been hankering to watch it. No I can't wait. It's going to be Friday Saturday and Sunday now Friday. So enjoy that now. Are you ready to answer a couple of questions before we put the cap on the super nine and move on to next week's setup? Let's do it all right first. Question The aforementioned fan of dancing with the stars we've got Admiral and Admiral asks. Was this episode too big for one night and let me preface this by wrestlemanias slogan has something to do with this because they split Wrestlemainia to two nights because they said it was too big for one night so even though I think he's making a joke. It is a question worth asking now filler. It could've been. They should have done one night and one hour down. I don't think they could have it down to nine performances. Nine clue packages one hour. That's a lot that's trail. Yeah I think the Filler was like felt like a lot of filler borough. Also like the ramones were moved slowly because it was okay. I know what's coming. Let's just move on. I think I should have just split it into two and made it. They have it be like the Super Ten and we had to five performance. No Feller Yeah but here's me so if I'm trying to help the producers out on like they're trying to stretch the season right now okay. All right always a different question. That's a different question right. Because if you're trying to help producers I have a bunch of ideas to stretch it out but if I'm the viewer I don't want to watch a recap of the clue. Baggage is also because okay wait. Let me take okay because I am very unique person. Legit have notes written about these clue packages like maybe this was great for the casual viewer. Okay so I feel bad for being mean Yeah I. I don't think the the casual viewers happy about this. Maybe there are facebook page. I duNno I mean the. What does it our facebook page? Okay what doesn't have a facebook? Page a Lotta game. We're playing who we need to finish these shifts so okay dancer and most question. Yes I thought. The episode was too big for one night. They should split it. That's fine we can move on okay. We can move on Tim Westinghouse so next week the groups are being split back into to force. Do WE THINK BANANA RHINO. Go before we get back to sex or is there a chance we lose like kangaroo. Now you've meant you've seen since we talked about some of the show. You found the lineups for these two episodes right. Ooh Yeah Did I feel don't know them yet? I had to restart my computer. Okay we wait. Let me try to remember from memory. Okay it was Kitty. Kangaroo Turtle and someone else. That's not rhino or banana. Because I was mad. That Rhino is frog or something it was. I was Super Mad. That banana and are in the same frigging group. Because as far as I'm concerned they're at the bottom to if I had to make it to your list at this very moment my bottom tier banana rhino. I think they should be the next two. That are gone then for me personally. It's kangaroo an astronaut and then I have my top four being night Angel Kitty Frog Turtle. So how on earth are you going to take the bottom two and put them in the same group which means I have to wait like three more weeks or four more weeks for the people that I consider to be the bottom two gone? I swear to God if we lose one of nine Angel Kitty. Frogger turtle before banana or Rhino. Go I will be mad at home safely and wash my hands. I don't know man a lot. It's a lot. Yeah yeah so I am not happy with that is that is truly the breakdown. Because I still can't find it but if we go off of that is frustrating because yes the reality is. We're going to have to have a slow wait a end to our fades. Go out because of this breakdown. Not Loving that. So if that is the case I think banana should go the likelihood especially this being the season at the white tiger. That's not going to happen. We if we lose kangaroo. I'm not mad at you know. I'm not matted at all my yeah if we lose someone to collateral that I think is a front runner. That would be setting. Yeah no I would agree with that. I would agree. I'm okay with kangaroo or even astronaut going at this point but that's what I'm saying if we lose one of the people that I consider to be in the top four that I'm GonNa be mad also as a side note. We are super out of touch with the fans. Gronk should have stayed. He's the most fun up there. Please Follow Sports. But this guy has a fabulous personality. He was so much fun. That is sixty two lights. I have to say the casuals continuing doing what they do. Best but like that's fun. At least someone will get some fun out of it right like if we're not happy at least other people are happy happy. I'm sad he won't be on next week. I'm happy that they're that. So you derive joy from the misery of others. Got It derive joy from my misery for ten episodes. Oh my God. So the there's a there's a show here that says I can see your voice at see Your Voice Fox. I can see your voice. Ken John Coming soon to Fox owned nine. Is this your voice? What is going on I can I can see. Your Voice is what it's called. I found it through facebook. I can see your voice. Oh South Korean TV series original version. I can see your voice mystery music game show. We're using no no yes. He's a Popstar. Trying guest. The skill vocalists from the tone-deaf singers. I'll so it's sort of similar. There's costumes there's Oka- but I mean let's see trying guest the skill of untold us without hearing them without hearing them sing with. Alpa TONE-DEAF DETECTIVE TEAM. They must eliminate one or two singers trump before performing on the stage of truth with a star in the final singer can hold a tune they will receive a special reward bottle mystery tone-deaf they will receive a cash prize. How do you guess who they are? Okay so you just you have to rely on your team on your team. You gotta like maybe some how they look or whatever. The voice taught us that. That's not real so this is this could be fun. I don't see this being like a full season. Maybe it's equity maybe not coming soon to Fox. Although this page was created page created February six twenty twenty. So my assumption. This is probably not gonNA happen for a long time if ever Ezzor we. I'm done I mean we did go off course but mark Levin please okay. So we'll do one last sociology solid. Ask Congress when the Superman film how many groups there episodes air we know that Group A was at least prudish shown before they recorded the super nine so I think at most group he was also in the middle or had started showing when they record it I don't think Group C was so that's where I'm going with that as a guess Yeah Okay Yeah I agree at that and then the last one all these two months after seeing all together is it time for the winter draft and I think it is so last season we did each of us. Got Three picks. I think we do the same thing here. Each of us get three picks. We're going to snake order and made the best person victorious. Okay yeah all right so since I won last time. Hey I would like you to go I night Angel Baby Okay. I saw that coming. I saw that coming down lugging it. Dan or I want to go with the give me the frog. Of course. Of course the frog is going to be there. And I'm stuck between two but I got to go with Turtle WanNa go with the turtle bow. Okay I'm GonNa go with Kitty then that's who I wanted but I didn't do it because I honestly feel that she's GonNa get robbed. The why would you pick the kids better? I don't see I think that I think the Voto kitties way I think. The kitty offers great vocal talent as the Night Angel. But do they give other stuff? Do they add to the other and I think the turtle as talked about doing more corio in their stuff. The Frog is definitely doing more corio in their stuff and if the white of there's one lesson to be learned from the white tiger is that the the audience in houses enjoying what you're putting out there they will keep you so all it takes is one valid for the at the wrong time and then to over okay do I pick now again. Two picks kitty and astronaut see. That's a value pick right there. Healing Maria Feeling. Good about it leaves me with the bottom people which includes the banana the Rhino and the kangaroo. Right right. No there's got to be others eight year right. I mean I'm picking the Kangaroo. The kangaroo is not a good pay whatever You know what I think I played myself. I should've gone I I didn't. I didn't think that through. Yeah but here we are. You WanNA redraft on. I'm just kind of like kicking myself. It's forty nine last time. I took the liberty laughed in my face and the leopard forth. So who knows? Maybe the kangaroo wins the whole thing anyway. Fine I'll laugh behind your face or well I appreciate that and You can all off behind my face to thank you for tuning in. Liana Wayne Levi. He didn't finish the job. No we were doing only three. Oh Yeah so you pick kangaroo Bret Michaels Pick Brit. Might I picked Brad Mike. Vh1 Reality TV star. Brett like dropping someone to pick bret michaels then bret. Michaels Rhino belong to the audience. Now I'm so sorry let's nights okay. Well this has been fun podcast. It was a long one but I think we did everything the appropriate amount of time. Now Liana where can people find you? And what are you up to lately? Okay you can find me on twitter at Liana our age a he. I M podcasting with Mike Bloom on our talking with Kirsten McGinnis this week about a jam packed merge episode of survivor which should be really fun. And then I'm also talking with Rog Mon Mon Edwin to talk about ripples at Joe Rigorous so those are going to be recording this weekend and should hopefully be out soon. You are talking to four people that you're playing with tonight in this game. I hope no one's a first of all. Let's be realistic okay. We are recording this on the third of April as we mentioned several times. They're not gonNA edit this until tomorrow right okay so this is going to be recording before the sequester game that we are playing tonight. Do you WanNa make any predictions or do you want to just not do time. Capsule situation. But I'm terrified why I mean. Worst case scenario edited out. That's a good point. Okay all right so I predict that we know. What do I predict? I predict? I don't know I don't know I don't know I'm nervous because this part I hate it. I'm GonNa make sure that either this gets stays in Oregon removed completely. I think I'M GONNA win. Okay then I think I'm going to win because positive a positive. You're losing the battle of the words. Leon win with that. Attitude Power of positivity. I Say I'm GonNa win two and then now we both win. Pop our positively. 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So You Think You Can Dance 15 | Live Shows & Finale Recap Podcast

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So You Think You Can Dance 15 | Live Shows & Finale Recap Podcast

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I'm well that was such a such a nonplussed response now. I know I usually like launch right into my thoughts and feelings, but I'm just going to ask you how you going for context lead at. I've already been talking for an hour and a half. Doubts you didn't miss an entire podcast now know a lot of big brother. Yeah, we have to. We have to catch up when we don't have our have our weekly, so I think you can dance chats. This is so true. Yeah. So we are going to talk about the finale and in that way, talk about the season as a whole, because the nice thing about the same thing could dance finale. Is that sort of a recap of the entire season in itself, but before we get started on that Kelly, are there any overall thoughts on the season on the top ten since we last spoke that you want to give? Oh, yes. Oh, for sure. First of all, honestly, FOX like, look, I know we love so you thinking dance. So this isn't actually serious of me like, please don't cancel the show. But honestly, if you're not going to let us actually have the show, why are you doing a show like this was so insanely short. We had a top ten and it was like, I literally, I will confess now I literally watched the entire season from like the live shows on in the last two days to catch up for this podcast because knowing we were going to just do a finale podcast, I actually wanted it to all be fresh, so actually saved them up so that I could watch them the last few days. Of course, not thinking of course, then they all start to blend together and that was a bad strategy, but I really thought it would work, but like I shouldn't be able to do that. I, we went from the top ten to the top four in a blink of an eye. We barely got to know these people like this. This was so insanely short to begin with and what happens if it's so insanely sure in terms of the vote and you could tell because like you could tell this drove twitch. Razi is that one couple or one person. But in this case, a couple can get a lot of momentum and something from week one can propel people through and totally affect the vote for the entire season. So every single I mean, I will. I will not gripe with the first set of eliminates because even though I love Evan, he didn't live up to his potential in the live shows. And part of that was a lack of good showcasing. But also he really didn't live up to his potential. But like every single vote, I thought was wrong all season, but to say all season is nothing. Yeah. Yeah. So. Yeah, I don't trust Americans to vote, but this was maybe their worst voting performance across a full season like they've gotten bigger things more wrong understatement of the century. But like. This whole season the I, I thought I was shook the week that Cole and Magda went home in one fell swoop. And then the next week, Darius and JJ were eliminated at the same time, like those are two of the best male dancers they've ever had on the show and eliminated to gather like one hundred percent of the actually think Jensen did win me over. But one hundred percent of this final four was worse than one hundred percent of the people they beat. It makes that many Chelsea like this. This whole season. It was like last season the week that Mark went home. It was like, I felt like that week, but the whole season. Yeah. So I will say that I have held onto the opinion that I've had since Vegas that Hanaway is the best female dancer, I. She was to me the best answer in the final four in it's not even close. However, JJ Daria. Were better than the other three people easily. And I think that at least areas was probably better than Hanaway, but I think that the right person, one in the finale and a person that overall out of the top top ten, I'm very happy with. She has been in my is the best answer, which doesn't mean that she's necessarily the best performer or should be favorite dancer or whatever. But technically speaking, she is one of two or three of the best dancers. They're willing to concede that she's maybe the best answer there. However, yeah, Darius and JJ are better than the other three it. And it's it's so far in a way particularly Darius technically that lake I, it was unbelievable when those two were eliminated for me, and it was hard for me not to think about the idea of like, and I'm not trying to get on a soapbox. I pointing out the facts here. The only black male winners we've ever had of this show have been hip hop dancers and it may or Crump burgers. You know what. Yeah, and it makes me wonder if there is just some sort of subconscious disconnected. It's not a matter of people picking up the phone and voting consciously racist. That's not what I'm saying at all. But I think that there is a disconnect where something about a contemporary or jazz dancer being a black man just doesn't fit with our narrative of. So you think you can dance or dancing general in this way that is easy for people to to understand our connect with. And that just really bums me out because I don't know why you would not vote for these two. In looking at the series as a whole. Oh, I guess there's Nick. Nick kind of throws it off because Benji was a ballroom dancer, and then we had Ricky now they're the Nick. And Ricky, has there ever been a male non hip hop dancer, who I mean. Olex. Right. If. Everybody. Remember the final six this year when fully half the all stars were just last year's finalists. Guys. It's like the Pitta me of lazy. We saw so much like they didn't wanna pay a tap dancer to come in to. They just had likes to a set number in the finale like, oh my God. Anyway. Okay. So they so they have had a few, I would say, like in general, though the voting does trend like no female hip hoppers and no male, none hip hoppers like to take race out of it Ray like that. Although we have had a couple, but like not they don't tend to do super well. Though some of them are just like mind blowing. I will never like season three will never cease to amaze me these, like even if people couldn't get behind Danny who had some personality stuff that was hard to invest in, like, why didn't needle win? Like what was happening there that we went like with this perfectly fine, lovely girl. But like there are some interesting gender things the way that the vote goes down and then like the mediocre guy who always gets too many votes based on personality is one hundred percent of the time a hip hop dancer, like there's there's there are some weird weird things that happen demographically speaking with these votes, not as fascinating as what happened with American idol year after year to year, that was like genuinely like people should write pay. I'm sure they have written papers about like the white male streak guitarist, and the losing finalists because of Gaber and like all the fascinating stuff there. But like there are. Interesting gender dynamics and racial dynamics. We've some some college junior has written a term paper and how David Cook caused Donald Trump. Okay. Okay. David Archer, let a love because like David, it would not have been demographically significantly David. The first one is hopping. Sal and beating them land. I was about to say, obviously, the go to example, is the guy who beat out of Lambert, but I couldn't remember his name. His name was Chris Allen and. I mean that one's the best example, because at least the guy who be Klay was minority. But like, yeah, both times the person who obviously should've should have run away from with the season who lost in the final two. It was because they were rumored to be gay of them not out at the time just rumored to be, which was fascinating anyway. But this show is a little bit more complex with that leg. We do complex, Kelly, learn. Like. There is a a much wider range of winners. Yes, but I do find it really interesting breaking down the dynamics of who does well in terms of the vote. Yeah, yeah. So it's interesting to point out like it's not I'm not accusing any. So you think dance voters of anything? It's just the idea that I think never having a black non hip hop winner. Blackmail not hip hop winner is something that I've just been thinking about and was just really, really bombed to see those to go out where they did, especially because the one man who made it into the final four was just so technically the worst, I don't who did Slavic do his ballroom with that was like the hardest thing to watch all season. Well, there were there were heated a couple ballrooms Genesee with Jensen. And what was tricky about that? Is that like Jensen Nigel said she looked like an all star and she she did. I'm really interested in your thoughts on Johnson. Anyone who remembers our last podcast and the one before that, and possibly even the one before that we are not. All of them. We were not Jensen fans largely because I felt like the show was really on her side. And I don't like when the show picks a winner before long before anyone's actually in contention. And I did feel very strongly that they were like leaning into the Lynn Lindsay's little sister. That's why we want her all that stuff. But something she said in the finale was like, I started as Lindsay Arnold little sister and now I get to be Jensen Arnold. And to be completely honest with you, Jensen won me over and she wanted me over really fast. Like I think she proved herself really strong. I think what we saw in the last episode that we that happened before we podcast at last I said her, I think her performance to get into the top ten was the best of the lot. I think she didn't incredible job and then, but that was the first time I'd really seen that from her. I had no evidence before that that she was anything other than just like a fine ballroom girl. I thought she was spectacular all season. I think she easily should have one. I do. Disagree that once we got to that final four there were there were people that I don't think she should have won necessarily over like JJ or Darius, or there were lots of people in that final ten. It was a really strong ten. But it was just voted totally wrong. And the two, I would say the two weakest dancers of the entire season ended up in the final four which threw everything off. I never personally invested in Hanaway. It got much worse when she talked about when they were like doing the fun facts. And her fun fact is that she has OCD which like then she defined OCD wrong, which was really offensive. And she talked about like, and then identify trophies in my house, and I'm like, oh my God, I hate you. What is this girl? And yes, she's a very lovely dancer, I I, she never struck a chord with me. It was totally personal. I just like couldn't couldn't invest in her. I was really impressed with Janssen. She really wanted me over and I'm interested to hear whether you ever got over your Jensen hate because I really did. And that's not something I usually do. Yeah. So I I didn't. I'm always I am always team good dance. This is why last year, even though lex was not my favorite, I was always fine with lex winning. Even though we saw a mile away, I was always happy to see lex, be poised to win. And it's the same thing with me even though like she's not someone that I necessarily personally connect with too much. She's just someone that I have seen as the best answer for a long time. And so I was always rooting for her. And I think it's a. Similar thing with Johnson where like I really never got over not liking her, but by the end I was like, she should handle the come in second over these other two. By the time, it was final four. Like I would never deny that she didn't deserve to be in that top two because she did. Stay at a great sewing should never had a bad performance and she's a great dancer, and that's undeniable. Just I, it was always even the like Lindsay's little sister thing and now Johnson, it's, it's always this like manufactured chip on her shoulder where like it's just pretending it's a disadvantage to be Lindsay's little sister and like I got like, she's in her shadow or whatever. Like it just was always so fake to me. And so like, oh, the poor, you, you had a huge leg up in this competition in terms of screen time, people remember you from last year. So when they're voting like you already have that going for you, I just was never reading for and also just it's so hard because when you have these final four performances where they have like everybody do a duet with each other in the final four, obviously, she and another girl can't do her style. Like they wouldn't have to girls do ballroom. So it is hard because I'm only comparing her to someone else directly in styles that she's not in, but just any dance suited with Malaysia was just so vastly out technique that like it's not her fault, but it was just hard for me to watch her during any performance with hennelly. Oh, man. I see. I disagree. I think that I mean, I totally. That's a misstatement. I totally agree about the narrative stuff like you're right, like it was a step up to be Lindsey, sister, and I didn't think that that was necessarily the thing I said about gets we Johnson Arnold like not. I didn't think that was like a compelling story. I just think it was really true and it's like honestly, like she first of all, she out performed Lindsay on her season, which I thought was very impressive. I actually, I think Lindsay is great dancer. You can check our dancing with the stars are most recent. We didn't do last season with the one before that which was Lindsay's like big great season, which Orden Fisher huge, huge fan of Lindsay thinks she's a great Criag refer. She's a great coach. She's fearless all that kind of thing. I like Jensen better. Like I like Lindsey versus Johnson. I think I love how strong Johnson is the on a personal level. I don't. You know, she's not the most compelling person that's ever been on the show. I do. I do think she she does not have an interesting personal story and she tries to manufacture one which is not the cutest. But I think she, I think she's extraordinarily dancer. I disagreed that I was watching her next to handle and thought there was that much of a Gulf in terms of their technical ability. And I kept forgetting that she was a ballroom dancer, which is my favorite thing to do. It was a little bit like when you talk about Jenna where I was just like, I forgot issue is so strong and so many things. And I like physically, I loved her her type how she approached her physical type and how she approached that. Like she's a bigger girl like she is her Scott, these big muscles and he's broad shoulders, and I loved personally. The most compelling she ever was I thought was when she did her segment about going to boxing gym because that is such a like the idea of like bulking up and being a strong woman is such an interesting concept because it is so looked down on in society. I remember Hillary swank really buffed up for a million dollar baby where she played a boxer and she looked incredibly strong and her talk and giving interviews and talking about how she hated it. And she'd never been in better shape in her life, and she hated it because she was bulky and she didn't look very feminine and that wasn't good. Yeah, although worth noting that Johnson losted significant amount of weight before coming on the show. That's interesting to know. I between her audition and even a kademi week to me, it was really noticeable. It's not the sort of thing I noticed, but in terms of like, she's like. She's a strong person. I don't know if you're talking about like, I'm assuming you're time Pudge weight as opposed to like muscle. Wait. I mean, I mean, it's not a value judgment at all, but just to be interesting look if you if she issue. Yeah, but like I just like the idea of bulking. Yes is interesting. It's not. I mean, she's a very feminine looking person, so it's not that big of a deal, but it just especially when she was standing next to handle a who is this little sprite of a person. It just it was interesting to me that was really compelling. When I when I like dancers who really approach things from a strength point of view, and there's an athletic to it, the sport of dance I think is just sort of monumentally. Impressive. And on a show that, to be honest, I felt it really strongly this season, the artistry of dance. I do not find come through particularly strongly on you thinking in dance, especially this season, I just felt like, yeah, it's, it was. It was so. So repetitive, every dance looked identical to the one before it like a just it's not there. And so at a certain point it becomes for me about the physical feet of it, which is counterintuitive for my natural instincts, I'm much more like our versus sports or whatever. But I think Jenson really impressed me. She won me over personally, don't care, but like I think she was the, especially in that terrible. Final four. I think she was the dancer of the season. Yeah. And again. Cannot complain about her coming in second or say that she didn't deserve any of that. But this is a reality show, which means that I get to pick who I like right by all. Pick whoever you like MAC Distel, whatever. Only we're teen. I liked all year was the, it's not a violin bow, an agile. I'm sure that's a cello bow. It makes no sense for it to be Wia limbo, but whatever the strings. So on that note, are there any routines that you really enjoyed that were not represented in the finale? Ooh, not represented in the finale. You feel like any worse nub d-. Oh, I've already forgotten. Absolutely everything I saw. The only one that comes to mind for me was I really loved the coal and Hanaway get happy routine. That was so sweet. I think I think both you and I love when we have a total joy of dance routine. Because it's shoes on, honestly, not comment, and it was just so well, dance and call is such a delightful performer for a person who looks like that. So that was my next question. How into colour, you. I was like, I feel like this guy is maybe lead abate a little bit. He did not seem super woke, but other than that, I think grows a mustache and maybe. Like tones down the the muscles a little bit. Okay, that's. But his muscles are very, like dancer. He's he's a little too broad shouldered which obviously not a bad thing. Just not thing. However, if you saw him in person, I feel like he'd smaller than you think, However, I loved that he is one of those people who looks like he could be totally would unstaged, but also it's totally willing to pull faces and be completely silly, especially in that yellow coat routine. I think that his little moment is so adorable, and he was coal really grown me. I think I was fine when he got eliminated, but I was like, yeah, that was more than I expected from him. No, man. I mean, honestly, like Chelsea and Evan. I was disappointed that we didn't didn't do more this season, but eliminating the top four, which whatever. And the bottom two, which whatever that middle section that was gold, those four in the middle. If I could just watch a season like that to me is a beautiful final Darius, coal and Magda, beautiful. Yeah, come on. Now there's a beautiful season. Yeah, I agree. But I think he he's surprised. I'm really, really glad that we got the of and lex tapper teen because I'm going to watch that a proximity a thousand times an actually liked that it was lex and not Gabby, not not because I mean, you know, obviously, Gabby, it's not necessarily my favorite, but I think it's really fun to see. Two men do a very classic tapper teen and they're silly purple suits. It was just different than I think what we would have gotten if it was him and Gabby where there would have been some lifts and things that we've already seen a lot of totally agree. Do think they should have paid Zach everhart. Now there's there's two possibilities right? Either both Zack and Aaron who were there to potential tapper all stars who are who are male because they wanted specifically, this was in the style of someone or other who were it was designed. Yeah, something that I wanted it was designed for two men. Gabby wasn't in the running, but the two potential tap all stars either they reached out to them and they were legitimately busy. So they went to the other guy, they knew who could tap well enough to do it that totally fine. If that is what happened. I highly doubt that it's what happened. I think lex was already in the building to do that skin weird mask routine thing, Genesee, and they were like, hey, you can tap rate this way. We don't have to pay a second all star. We don't have to fly in Zach. Let's go. And that annoys me because I really, especially for tapper because they, they don't have the opportunities that the other people do. They don't get beyond dancing with the stars. They're not used as all stars very often because the show doesn't have a lot of us for them when there is a use for them, bring them in his legs. Can do literally anything give Zach is shot, but Alexa also had to be there to support his girlfriend who still together. I talk. Taylor who blindsided the season Taylor was in the best routine of the entire season. In my rebellion him. Can you believe this is my favorite routine. Yes. Are you shocked leader? I really I, here's the thing leader. First of all, dairy is is extraordinarily beautiful creature from heaven. And he danced this insanely wonderfully and long lived areas. This routine. If you take away the costumes and the makeup and travis's little spiel beforehand telling you what it's about it and and the fact that it's like a very important topic, and it really touches people's hearts and all that kind of stuff. And they danced it very beautifully. It looked exactly like every single other routine we've ever seen in terms of the actual choreography of this routine. How was it different from the. Kent and Neil conflict routine or the robber in Tucker routine, like all of the all of the really sentimental, really quote, unquote, powerful Tra driver, Travis wall routines. Why? I think it would be hard to say that about anything. I think you could look at any cha-cha that's particularly great and say, how is this different than any other cha-cha that we've seen? I think generally for the most part except for that. Fabulous and Sasha one, that was real good. Yeah. I mean, I think that obviously the show has been on for so long and Travis square graft. A lot of routines at this point that like stuff is going to look the same because it's in a very specific genre which is not just contemporary, but so you think you can dance contemporary that is in this amount of time and choreographed for this stage and to get these votes. So I think that that's something that you could say about almost any routine at this point. But I think if we're talking about something that. Affected me personally because the material obviously is really close to me. And if anyone is confused with obviously talking about thirteen where Darius has the makeup on and Taylor is representing the institution of heterosexuality, I guess, which like etc. Confusing because they had her like it men, male dress, right. Don't you think it would have been more powerful to have that be a male dancer who was like, be playing a super super SIS character maybe. But I think also she is representing just masculinity in general. And I think that heart of four, maybe it's more interesting if she's a super SIS, female character. No. I mean. He's doing this sort of like you are not enough. I don't know whatever. I trying to make it a better routine is representing masculinity in general, and I don't think it matters which gender dancer is portraying that. Because basically the point is that like it doesn't really matter what gender you are like in a way like we are all enforcing these structures of normalcy and gender roles and all these things. So I, I don't think that matters much to me. No, except that like don't you think that then basically talks about one side of the issue in one experience and trivializes the female to male? No, no, because I don't think that any dance can be asked to represent every single person story. I think that this is a dance about one specific st-. Story and one narrative and right, and I'm not asking it to. I am saying one one small change don't you think would have made it a stronger piece, and that's having it be a male dancer or a female character. No, I'm saying that I don't think it matters to me which gender dancer is representing masculinity. Okay. And, but I think that the fact that we are even having this conversation, there are so few. So you think you can dance pieces that we could talk about, like what it means and what could have improved it like story wise. Like I think that the fact that we're even capable of having this conversation represents a step forward for for the stance as opposed to a lot of the other contemporary dances that we've seen. I don't know. I felt like, and this is not the fault of the dance so much as the fault of the response to the dance, which is such a lake whole. I always fall into this stuff, but like I felt a little bit the same way that I felt after the breast cancer routine that like seminal moment with Thais, Yorio Oreo in season five or four. That it was a breast cancer routine, and it was it was a fine, lovely routine. It was well danced, whatever. But it was like far from one of the best technical dances of the season, and it just got it became this gigantic moment and everyone was crying and I just from dance point of view. I just felt like try. I think Travis hides the work behind the story so often and another choreographer guy criticized for that this year. And I just think that this was an important piece and he gave it to exactly the right male dancer. And for for the leading role. And I think that Travis should have done a better routine. I think this story deserved a special routine and instead of choreographing the same old stuff and applying an important message to it and expecting that to be enough. And it wasn't enough because everyone was willing to let it be enough, and I think it is better than that, and I think he needs to. He was looking great this year, and I think that his his string instrument routine was fantastic. Other than that, I think Travis wall phoned in the entire season and I wanted him to try harder, especially when you have a dancer, like Darius who can do and everything. Give them something to do. Okay. I'm gonna respectfully. Disagree. I had no problem with the choreography. There's a great moment where Taylor is behind him. He is front and center, and she has this gorgeous, like kind of emir. Staccato fall to the ground that sticks in my mind and it's connected with his movement in a way that I think was really interesting. And I just think that like even if I was maybe more critically judging the choreography, it was something that was performed and put together powerfully enough to make me just saw both times that I watched this on TV and the fact that it's on primetime on FOX, and Nigel lift go is standing for it. And and again, this is about the response. So I understand your point about thirteen itself in this is more about the context of it, but the fact that Travis did this and pulled it off and it's, it's on this show that I think has so much late and homophobia through the years in the ways that male dancers are allowed to express themselves so much so many years of slogging through Nigel, criticizing gay men for their ballroom frame because they're not. Masculine enough and all of these like in ways that that he points that out. And then finally we have this, which is thanks to the experience of so many male dancers and just so many male performers in general. It just really meant a lot to me and I thought that it was at the very least well executed enough. Yeah, I'm just really cynical, but this kind of thing, it always feels reactionary to me. It always feels token e and you know, like I think the success of Darius on the season relative though it was because obviously he deserved to make it further than he did. Dancers like him have made it a lot not like not to the final six before. And so the successive areas on the season I do think is Ha's momentum. That said it was not that wasn't enough for me in terms of like actual honest to God progress. And we talked about this when we talked about who made it into the final ten. We were talking, what was that kid's name? Who did the hip hop who was like pretty good, but not amazing tip up. No idea. I want to say his name was like Jonathan or something, whatever that kid who got eliminated and he made you made you really mad the way that Nigel criticized him. That kind of thing is still so present on the show. And I don't think that a token very. You know, I guess, okay. This is also coming from like a liberal Canadian coastal city kind of point of view. I do live in the bubble and I live in the bubble, but like it fell like an easy thing to do at this particular moment. And I understand that like in a larger context, it isn't. But for someone who is in the art scene in for Travis, I think it it isn't that difficult of a thing to do. And I think to like actually not capitalize on an popular political moment, but to actually really enforce some changes. There are two different things, and I think I find it frustrating and he does this all the time. He does like a something that's going to hit people in the heart, and that's going to bring him further than. The actual work would. I think I just don't agree that in this moment. This was an easy thing to do. I think that this as much as it may not seem like a risk in our circles, I really do think it was, and it's not to me a total fix on the problem and those no more homophobia and so you think you can dance or anything like that. But I think just because it's singular or just because it's the first time that something's been done doesn't mean that it's a that it's token. I think an out gay man choreographing this authentic routine for another out gay man that represents an authentic experience to so many dancers is not that doesn't automatically make it a token just because it's the only routine we've seen like this. Yeah, if fell. Yeah. I don't know. It felt shallow to me. I didn't like it. I will say Darius, did a beautiful job with it. And I do think for Darius it was bolder than it was for Travis. I think Travis gets a lot of credit for that kind of thing. And I think for Darius as someone who would get those sort of terrible Nigel criticisms, someone who is. Vulnerable to those criticisms putting himself in in the potential line of fire as opposed to, you know, really being like, I wanna do a hard hitting hip hop after a hard hitting hip hop after a hard hitting hip hop to prove that I don't deserve those criticisms. I think that there is something more bold to and Darius. Again, this was beautifully danced and beautifully acted. I think he did a wonderful job. I just it wasn't enough for me and I get frustrated with huge just like that was the greatest thing we've ever seen in the history of the world. And I'm like, all right anyway. Yeah. Well, I mean, again, I think that it's, this is the longest conversation we've ever had about a single dance. So at the very least for better for worse, it started a conversation. I hope that it did with people at home also because this is a show that so many people watch with their parents, and I think that could have potentially sparked conversation there. But anyway, can we, what should we? What should we talk about? Where do we go here? Kelly. What else have we can talk? Haven't we talked about in terms of routines that were notable? I mean, I, I'll person someone on Twitter wanted to talk to you about the dance I had. I hated every second of that. I couldn't watch it either time. Okay. So this is. So I wanted to ask you about this. So we talk a lot about cultural procreation specifically for some reason during Disney week under the stars conversation we have that is I think a little different that is not a dance style that is playing a character who is not of your race that I think is a lot bigger of in issue this now I might be misreading, you and your hatred of this. This routine. Somebody on Twitter had tweeted at you like the second air. They're like, I dearly to talk about this dance and I'm sort of just nuts but words into your mouth, but guessing it sort of irked you on a cultural appropriation. Angles, but then I wanted to ask you about African jazz and Bollywood and representation. And just, you know what I'm talking about. So this is this is not something about. I think that this is like morally wrong or it is racist that they did this. They have to Shen quarry choreographer just as they always do with the African jazz and with the Bollywood and stuff. The African jazz specifically bothers me because they are always playing like animals or like savages and its like, does a specific Sean Cheesman problem. We talked about it all last season. Yeah, like so weird. This was hard for me to watch because Jensen looks so completely ridiculous and it's, she can't do it any better. She just does look ridiculous because she's wearing a costume that like is completely nothing that she's should ever be wearing in any other context doing movements that look weird on her body, which there's nothing she can do about that. Again, I think that she danced it fine. This was also not JJ's culture, but I don't know if it's just that he's a better dancer or what, but it didn't look as ridiculous on him. I think it's something that like I don't know what the answer is right, because like I can't. I don't want this show to not bring in diverse choreographers and diverse dance forms. I wish that there was a way to do this that represented the essence in the style of the dance without having them have to dress up like people from Tahiti. Yeah. I mean a couple eight sort of a catch twenty two, because on one hand, it is so important that the show acknowledged that there is more to the word dance than contemporary and hip hop and ballroom, and even actually contemporary aside, but like ballroom and hip hop have cultural things with them like the Latin dances, the hip hip hop has its roots in black culture like these things come from places. The thing is that those ones have have been done so broadly by so many people at this point that the the specifics of its culture have been kind of washed into some sort of like mentally soupy thing. And it ceases to at least like raise her hairs a little bit. It's important that they do things like to dance, and it's also specifically with something like to Houston, dances opposed to lake African jazz in terms of the population of the place where it comes from. They cannot just only give to Houston dance to. He shouldn't like there's just, yeah, I'm the places too small. So you're right about bringing in the choreographer like if they ever do one of these routines without a choreographer from that culture, that's really problematic as it currently stands. I think they're, they're sort of doing the best that they can in terms of the assignments, I think, and to go back to the same conversation, we have about African jazz every time because this is like a really. It's like one of my major pet peeves with the most recent seasons is Sean Cheesman is African jazz, not to like hate on a Canadian choreographer because Sean Cheesman is ours. He comes from. So you thinking dance, Canada. But like there's more and to say it again, there's more to African jazz than this like weird tribal nonsense and the earliest African jet, the first two African jazz routines ever on the franchise. We're on the Canadian one. One I believe was Sean Cheesman routine, and the other one was not, but they were like African jazz music and African jazz movement, but they were storytelling that was just, you know, the same way that the Bollywood storytelling works, which is a lot of just like boy meets girl girl is wearing pretty skirt and they dance and they dance in the style of the whatever. But they don't have to like adopt these elaborate traditional costumes, I think is the traditional nece more than anything. Yeah. Like if they were to dress the way two thousand eighteen person into he might dress dressed the same as two thousand eighteen person probably in Michigan similar like. Everybody's heard dressing dresses, but the I think it's the traditional side of it. And I think that there is a way maybe this is also disrespectful hard to say. I think just doing what the choreographer tells you is probably the best thing to default to because we do have an expert on the scene, but like there is a part of me that wants to do that sort of the African jazz that we had the first few times in Canada, which was just like, here's some African jazz moves. It's going to be to set to African jazz music. It's gonna be fun and you're not gonna put like we're driving stuff on it. It's just gonna be dancing. I mean, and the other problem with that is that like African jazz doesn't exist. That's not a thing Africa's a gigantic plays. Like, I think what they mean is perhaps South African jazz. I'm not sure I googled this before. I've looked into it in terms of like what African jazz style even means, and it doesn't exist. Google Africa. Jazz dance. Everything that comes up is. So you think you can dance because it's it's not anything. It's reductive, and it's just like a blanket term for whatever African inspired jazz movements they want to do because like African dances, so diverse and has such a such a long in gigantic history of that, like to reduce it to this competition dance show for a two minute routine. You kind of have to make up this like extremely reductive phrase for it. So anyway, at least to Huston dance exists, at least that's a thing that they didn't make up. So that's good, but maybe that's worse. Right? Because it's easier to get it wrong. If it's your offending actual like a specific group of people as opposed to just like African jazz, which is like who no one's going to be watching that and be like, oh, they're like mutilating my my specific dance style because it's not a real dance style. No one would ever say I'm an African jazz dancer, you'd say, I guess if you are a jazz dancer from Africa, someone might say that anyway, the whole to heed thing. I again, I don't know what they answered it. This is it's certainly not just cutting out diverse, choreographers and styles of dance. The reason I hated this routine was that like it is it's cringe worthy to watch. I just don't like to watch these people do this routine. It makes me uncomfortable. Do you feel the same way when they do Bollywood. Kinda. Yeah, a lot of the time I do this just felt so late. I don't know the way that Jensen's hair was teased and like. Look silly really leaned in cost you so much of it. That's like so silly in a way that Bollywood can be uncomfortable in a similar way, but doesn't seem as like a Daesh Asli ridiculous because they look like very beautiful while they're doing it in like makeup that they might normally wear, but then a different outfit rather than just like this absurd hair and like, you know, not that not that it's absurd for that culture, but on Johnson, it looks absurd, right? Maybe? Yeah, maybe I mean, again, and this is this is tricky and I'm sure that if we, if we have any to Houston listeners. Please let us know. I'm very interested in, you know, it's so hard to, I think we do as liberal white women fall into this trap. A lot of being like it would be offensive to me like, I'm assuming it's, we don't know. We can't tell what you're going to find offensive. I'm sure he shouldn't. People do not have a consensus on how they feel about this dance if they saw it at all. So like I, I, you know, it's hard to say whether making it less authentic would make it better. It sounds like at least for you, it would make it more palatable. I at least like tone it down. The only thing that I can really come up with here and this is obviously not the same because Judaism is not a racial identity. It's a very different thing. But if they were to do some sort of. Typical traditional Jewish style of dance. Let's say they go totally crazy, and they do like the bottle dance from fiddler on the roof or something. I think that that would be like fine. They're bringing in Jewish prayer physically and different thing. I really don't want them to be wearing stars of David's and fake beards and curls that would be more offensive to me. Well, those are those are totally different things though. Right? Yeah, has like they would be wearing the beards, and I don't think the curls are historically accurate to the fiddler on the roof, but like they would do some form of that they the stars of David or a whole other things. Well, not not necessarily the truck summating the look of Jews there approximately like recalling a specific moment and Tugay. But what I mean is, is the beard and the, you know, the or whatever. Like I think that it would be more offensive to me if they were trying to replicate how quote unquote Jewish. People look in the same way which is replicate how to Huston people look right? Which is why I think that this conversation is significantly more black and white on dancing with the stars Disney week because what they're doing, it's not about the style of dancing. It's about the character that they're playing and they're dressing up as a pretending to be a person that they are not. I think you can or you should be able to and I and maybe this is this is wrong when it comes to dance. I'm not sure. But certainly with African jazz with Bollywood you can dance those things without needing to be someone from that culture. And I think that anyone who's interested in those first couple African jazz routines that are sort of what I think they should be Google, Lisa invasive, which is spelt like Vincent. African jazz and it'll take you to that season one from. So you think in dance Candida routine. And it's just it's just people participating in something. They're not pretending to be anything. They're not. But, but it's possible that in order for you know, there's also certain dances. I'd have to go back and watch this to Haitian thing, but like there are certain dances where like the costume elements are part of the dance. And like when you bring in like Hulu and things like that, there is a thing you have to wear when you're doing. Hips may may very well be a part of it. I think the hair and makeup is not an, especially in like the African jazz when they do like the Red Stripe over there is like, all right. I mean, African jazz, the tribal thing. That's a whole other. Honestly, I am so over Sean Cheesman I'm sorry. My mom is a crush on him. It's like a whole thing. I, I can't. I can't with him anymore. And I, we've articulated this particular thing. We are. So on the same page about African giants, these specific tribal approach that Sean Cheesman takes and how that is reductive and stupid. Let's move on from Tahiti. Yes, I want to. We haven't talked about jonoski at all, and I do just want to commend her particularly on her hip hop because I think that she is one of the people in the top four. That was definitely not as strong a dancer as Hanna lay or or Johnson, but she was able to, in my opinion, blend into a style that was not her own, and I would always forget that she wasn't a hip hop dancer when she was doing these routines. Yeah. I mean, I also think she was surprisingly good at Latin ballroom. Yeah. She, yeah, Genesee was fine. And Genesee was not. She didn't have any performances that were actively terrible. She was quite I would. She was. I thought she was a well rounded, mediocre dancer meaning that like even her, I don't think her contemporary was that much stronger than her hip hop or her Latin ballroom, which is a huge compliment to her hip hop in a Latin ballroom and an honest knock on her contemporary because like it should have a needed to be stronger. I don't think Jesse should have made the top ten to be honest. I don't think she, I mean, if anyone disagrees that she shouldn't have made the top four, I really would like to hear why that said, if Slavic made it into the top four, I do like the Genesee went to one because I like the idea that if three women get the most vote. Three women get to go through. That's nice. At the top at the beginning of the top ten, if I'd known that was the rule, I would have been like, great. Let's do a top four of all men because the men were so much stronger. This. This. But. I like the idea of three women, one men how it didn't matter. And I love that they didn't bring it up and brag about it and do a whole like, aren't we aren't. We so evolved? They just let it be. That and and they were there because of each other. They were floated through the vote because. So you think he has loves to pretend people are couples and loves to talk about chemistry, and they love a story where contemporary female dancer helps out a. Hip hop guy interest of his technique and the hip hop guy brings the confidence of the contemporary girl up and makes her like own her, whatever, right? They love that story. It's a cute story connects with audiences. I like that he and her reaped the same amount of benefit from that. It wasn't just her him going along and being the star of the show and her getting left behind. So if it was going to be unfair, it was evenly unfair, so fantastic. Unfair, just like wrong. I think that I agree that Genesee is not particularly memorable dancer. I do think that she's a really great performer. I think that she stood out in a lot of the group routines, particularly that kind of like glow in the dark top three girls routine where they huddle. I hated that. I don't really like that routine either, but I think that Sheila fake dreadlocks. Oh, my God, murder me now particularly like it. But I do think that she was the best in it, which the fact that she could be any routine and be to me either just as good or or shine brighter than headland Johnson is definitely appoint for her and sells me more than anything on her being the top three. But yeah, from from a purely dance standpoint, she was not at the point of Johnson or handling, but she was better than Slavic. So there's that everyone was better. Look on a personal level. I did like slumming. I thought he was very good week one. If we, if we had podcast every week, I would have said after the first episode, the first live episode that he was starting to win me over that ended fairly quickly. I will say, I thought he was super cute when he got his hair all slicked down for. But like he, you know, una personal. He was very winning. He was he was sweet and he, he tried really hard and he was cute as a button, but he wasn't a very good dancer in a season. That was like really like, we cannot overstate how strong this. There was six people or something like that in this season who could have won another season. This was a really strong season of dancers, and we ended up with the dancers who were fine and would have ended in the middle of the pack on another season and something just went around with the vote in ended up being a mediocre, I dunno, it just seemed like a weaker season than it was because the wrong people went home at the wrong time, and it made me sad and that sort of wrapped up in Slavic. It's represented by Slavic, which is too bad because he's a sweet kid, and I don't want that to be his legacy and I don't want him to have to carry that around the way that like who sin giant. It became this like stand in word for when this happened. Yeah, he seems like a lovely guy. I hope that he and Genesee remain friends. They seem to actually really like each other. Yeah, I love like great partnership stories. Yeah, I am. I am a sucker for that. Like I love a good catch me when I fall thing and with dancers its littoral, which cute. Money. I am a sucker for that story and though I do not vote in this show. It is not. However, what I've out for. Yeah, for for the dancer, I like, who is not insufferable just a couple of other routines that I wanted to just briefly touch on here that I had thoughts about on feel free to jump in. If you have any others, I just wanted to get your thoughts quickly on that yummy grouper teen. The one where what's yummy, it's Remmel Emma, bang. Bang meets call me mother. Like they're all kind of steam punk outfits. I did not know what to make of this, and so I wanted to get your take on it. Yeah, I had zero thoughts except that looks familiar. Yeah, I watched it and thought, oh, my God is way is Wade. Robson back. I was going to be thrilled, and then I was like, no, no, no, this is Mark camera. It wasn't. I can't even remember who it was. Probably just Mandy. Actually, no, that's not fair Mandy. Actually, I think was the choreographer of the season. This opening number which was the worst grouper teen I've ever seen, which I understand. It was just kind of to like introduce everybody again, but it was like the. Mid high school musical act one the Macy's day thing. I enjoyed that. But that's because I'm like a real sucker for that. It was like triumph, e, we'd like balloons and things, but that's just that. Yeah, that was just like simplistic video dancing. It was cute, but like it was really not dancing. The yet? No, she Mandy. I just think is like a really interesting personality. I love that. I think she, she's just she's a cool lady. I think she she does a number like she just some really good routines. I loved Jensen. The fools rush in routine, which is not. That's not what that song's called, but like it should be called. Was that the she was wearing a gray top. Her hair look really pretty, and she danced with Robert and it was to the, you know. You know, I can't help falling in love with you. It's called and that was a major chain. Like I thought, just like generally through the season, she was really strong. I mean, everybody's also same z. all the time, but this. Yeah, this, this opening routine, the Rama Lama, whatever. So it was. It was Luther just so weird will. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I remember seeing it and being like, and then he was like, it's Luther Brown when, okay, Luther Brown even I usually love him and he did a couple of things this season that we're fantastic. I love that yellow coat routine. I really liked Slavic and Genesis opening vans. But even him like those little like Nigel always likes that weird, slow movement thing he does, and he does like a slight variation on it in every routine now because Nigel always makes a big deal about it. It like the old man, Walker, whatever. Even I think everybody and maybe illustrated by this routine that looked identical to previous routines. Yeah, was come on guys and especially watching it all in two days was a mistake because this I, you could you can copy and paste it all. And that's not something you notice so much. Waked binge-watching network sitcom, you don't know if you really checking in on at once a week at the pleasant thing to do with a half hour. But when you try and binge-watching you're like, what on earth? This is the same episode over and over and over again. Like I watched all of bones and like two months and has certain point I got. I was down to an eight, an eight minutes. I could identify the killer. Yeah, I just wanted to bring up routine because it's something that I should like like everything is there, but I wanna hold hold people accountable when it's so obviously recycled that I just like this doesn't. It didn't seem like they're Brown's voice, and then I want to jump to a more positive one because I think that we would be remiss if we went this whole time talking about not talking about Marco and then episode that Marco was, what did you think of his handle as routine? Oh, I thought it was fine. It was lovely. It was cute. I rewound just to see him. Yeah, because I love him. That was it though. It was it was it was very sweet. They looked great together. Poor Marco is so small that we, it's only the handle as of the world. But like when they just they just fit so nicely. I just needed to gosh, about Marco for a second. I love to that routine. Here's a an important potentially controversial question. Did you feel about the Mia Michaels flowered ads from way back in the day? No, it was on this season. She did a an opening number and everyone was like in flowers. Oh, the one with Al. Look like the Russians. There's something do you think would look like white things covered in flowers, and it was. Hours in the air and they were doing it was to classical piece that was like about flowers. Well, it was kind of like a character routine, right? Like it was kind of like a folk dance. I just thought it was the silliest stuff. It was like all prancing and like jumping, but not like cool jumps like little like leafy. I don't know I, it was I literally giggled the whole through the non looking giddy way and like. So I not trained in character at all. So if I'm completely wrong than somebody correct me, but I thought that this was an approximation of folk dance. Which does look silly if it's not done particularly professionally, did they say it was her know noticing that I, I'm just guessing that this was Mia trying to do that. Because that's what Mia work for the Joffrey like isn't meal, like an honest to God, real person choreography. Oh, sure. I just think that these are not honest to God, character dancers, and so it looked weird on them. I thought she worked for the Joffrey. I feel like if she does the night just need come on me. I was really excited to have her back. I love her. I do know that she she's like a very real choreographer in my opinion. But yeah, it was. It was silly and I forgot about it until you just said that. And yeah, because it's just I, it feels big to me when they bring back really the oil. I mean weighed when they brought way back for that one episode that was felt like a big deal. But like no one is like Mia, like it's a big event for me when me is going to be on the show was so still turned up from having Brian Friedman back. Still lit. What did you think of Jenas routine. John is routine in already forgotten. Just wanted to give you an opportunity to talk about Jetta who by the way, just announced today. It's going to be Joe. The grocers partner on dancing with the stars grisly star. Joe. They, they like she just wants or they're like, we're going to give her someone who definitely can't end, but someone who will definitely get votes for a couple of weeks. He. Yeah, that's true. He'll get, he'll get through for a while, but he'll he'll go in the middle of the pack where some like real dancers on this seasons. Tanaka deserves better. In life. Anyway, I don't. I truly remember Jonah's routine like say, don't remember it at all ages Renault that she did one hard to remember all of the different ballroom routines in general. For me, they do look seems the, I think I want wanna say it was. It was KiKi was definitely KiKi. And I was just overwhelmed by Kiki's boringness and numb, just how he makes me feel. Jensen, KiKi Jensen and KiKi and I'm sure. Great. I'm sure it was not. I will things the bulb the Hanaway and I think it was handling in coal that that Sasha and. A was it shot that that like I'm always really impressed when someone choreographs a ballroom routine that stands out. Although Emma also did a g or no, not MS. Sharona who I adore finally came on dancing with. So you think he'd dance and she did a jive and that was all sorts of fun. Yeah. That was actually, that was probably my highest Slavic moment of the year. Was him doing Sharma's jive thought he got his kick flick thingies in well, and just looked adorable and Sharona and a little jive? Yeah. Generally, it's really impressive when someone does a ballroom routine that I love there was not a lot of ballroom this season, even though there were a lot of ballroom people in the finale in the finals. Yeah, but there was a lot. I was Jenner a lot of ballroom inserted into other categories if that makes sense. Like even stuff like JJ and Lauren froder men's jazz routine was like weirdly so many lake lifts and stuff, which I know does not ballroom make, but there were like ballroom elements in it, and I felt like there was a lot of that in contemporary too. I mean, I don't. I don't know that I saw that, but I did now that I'm reminded of that. I really liked that routine. I life teen too, but it's like we have to honest to God, jazz dancers, and it wasn't really an honest to God. Jazzar teen wasn't that the one where Mandy was like I'm bringing jazz back, but it was jazz as a whole, but is jazz though really. There were certainly jazz like shapes in that routine. But there was also a lot of like what looked like kind of an advanced version of the Pulp Fiction dance with. Not necessarily. I would call jazz. Oh, but you know the people on the set of Pulp Fiction. We're like, this is. Yeah. I mean, it's something that like I don't know what else I would call it, but it's not necessarily what I would want like to professional jazz dancers to me when we're trying to show exactly what jazz is there were any jazz runs where what the, what was it? You said, what was it? You said there were jazz like shapes. The whole shows approach today up could be summed up in that third dance link shapes. Why dance, but it sure looks like it. There was a lot like running and emoting. Yeah, like jazz music was playing and. So much of this show is like they pick a song and that song is in the right Sean Brennan. Thanks salsa. We don't need to do. Is always just like here is a dance to Broadway and Broadway. We'll say Broadway was particularly atrocious this season, just like, oh yeah, the legs. It was the worst. First of all is a great standalone song that has no business being in cabaret was inserted only for the movie version makes no sense in the narrative that said, great song, ridiculous routine, Travis get the hell out of Broadway. What are you doing? A hated everything about it. I even hated Jensen Sayer and I never hate Jensen's hair except for TC Tahiti, but like I'm pretty sure I wore that exact way in my high school production of the drowsy chaperone. When I was playing drowsy chaperone, you know, that show started at the Toronto fringe festival. Wow, it's so good. But it is. I was supposed, I went to the to see it on Broadway and was seeing the original cast was so excited to see Sutton foster and she got she was under study that happened to me when I saw legally blonde. With lower Belva, India, shoes, undecided. Honestly, most of the time I don't mind under studies. I often have found quite a few times that they're better because it's like they're real. They're big shot. Totally agree. I've seen a couple of people who've gone on to be pretty big when they first we're getting their breaks doing understanding which was like cool. But when you go specifically to Sutton foster and I've seen Sutton, I've had tickets to see sudden foster, I think, four times and I've only seen her one time. Though I interviewed her at AT x. so we're all good. Just one one. Quick note on this before we get too far on our Broadway tangent and lose everything. I my best under study experience was that I saw next to normal on Broadway and Jen domino was out, and I was so devastated because I'm like thirteen and want to see the person that I've heard on the soundtrack. The under study was Meghan Fe star now of the bowl type. And I love that. I saw her when she was thinking shy. She's Sutton type. Yeah. Oh, I was not super impressed with her at AT x, and we'll say, are you should be however, who was frigging chicken the world, Meghan Fay has one of my favorite singing voices of all time. She was on the recording of the unauthorized autobiography, Samantha Brown, which never made it anywhere but has music, but okay. So I don't know that show at all, but my all time favorite YouTube video eventually went. No, Jeremy Jordan's with me because first of all, that's an amazing song and Josh young does it on his solo album and it's beautiful and whatever. But Jeremy. Jordan has a recording of it. I believe at fifty four below and he screws up the opening and he has to start over and then he does all of those lines two, like let me catch my breath. This is really hard. I'm not good with words like all those Leary. He does them with this sort of like wink to the audience leg. Like he messed up the word, the ready and it's the cutest most Jeremy Jordan ish thing. And I love him. And if you ever want to window into my soul, run away with me, Jeremy Jordan. YouTube, go right now. It's my favorite thing from what were we talking about? We were talking about handle in Johnson's horrible Broadway tea and. Jesse jackson. Oh my God. All right. Sure. Yeah, that's because then try. This was like n. Genesis going to be the star and he thought he was so clever because like obviously Jensen's the star in Genesis, the person who's like in the background, trying attention. I didn't even remember enough to remember which to that was no. And he was proud of himself for making Genesee the star and like really stretching her. And I was like, all right, okay. From you. Well, this, those transitions into the last routine that I wanted to talk about, which actually is hand land Jetson, which is there don't touch my. We've routine that I have thoughts and also feelings about do really, yeah. Those other ones. Hated their hats and with my only thought on the entire I, these were the wrong two people to do this for almost any other two people could have done this. I should have loved everything about this routine, and I did not was this Brian Friedman. Yes, that's right. I think I think we know the song featuring rupaul. It's a great song to do routine to their great outfits. It's a great concept. I like the pulling off the ponytails. These are just like not the girls to do it. I just did not feel good watching this. I wanna see like Darius and like, I don't know, maybe Genesee somebody with attitude. I wanna see doing this routine. These two are so clearly faking it and turning it up and pretending to be drag queens and it's just not is not what I wanted out of this routine. You know who you wanted to see this routine, jasmine and Robert. The payer got eliminated. I last year. Yes, that's exactly why I wanted to see to retain that in. It's not. Okay. I want to make clear that this is not something that it's just because like O'Hanlon Jensen are sweet. So they had no possible way of pulling it off. I think like obviously, that's part of it, but like Jenna Johnson did a similar thing to this with Mark camera in my favorite routine of all time. It's the same type of demeanor and that's required and she pulled it off. And I don't think that Jenna is in any way shape or form like cooler than any of these two. She's a really good actress though. Yeah, and that's what that's what it is is that I think that it was possible for hand land Johnson to pull this off and they did buddy police clock. I just complimented Jenna. Yes, you did. Well done. We're all branching out here. I've, I've complimented Jensen. It's all happening. You win. Was. Is a great dancer, an undeniably deserve second. Fair. I sure she deserved second place to Darius. That's also true. Does she didn't? She deserved fourth plays after Darius and JJ, and finally. She just, she's good, but I don't know. I feel like you can find a handle at any good, decent studio anywhere. Yeah, but it's a dance competition, and she's a really good competition dancer. Anyway, I just think that this is a routine that I could love so much and could be like an all time for me because it's so my alley that it makes it so much harder to watch because I just want to see it with two people who really kill it. Like so bad. I'm trying to think of like, who would be like my completely ideal. I think jasmine and Robert are definitely up there or even like, yeah, now they've got jasmine in my head. That's exactly why this routine like her and another girl. That would be fine. It doesn't have to be a guy in it it. It just seems so distinctly rooted in drag and these girls are not, and pretend to be. Yeah. That's what it is, but it's it's a great routine. I like the, I thought the hair thing was cute and I like the outfits and that's that's what I have to say about it. Sure, yeah. Yeah, that's fair. I didn't have strong feelings about this one, but I don't have strong feelings about the world or the song or bring any of that. Bring in misl- is strong Java too. Eliminated. She got eliminated like she made it to the last day of all. Also immerse she was competing as a man. Yes. So right after her for her first initial audition was in drag. But after that she was like specifically competing as a man. I believe shoes dress shoes, mail presenting when they did that big grouper tea and where she's in the jazz group. Yeah, and she was very good. Well, that was actually something we talked about in the first episode. I don't believe we addressed in the second. Sorry, we're repeating ourselves. That that was a whole thing because they eliminated choreography where like I was pretty sure that guy had like significant dance training. So I was really happy that we, at least though they didn't make it super far. We got to see that and he got to prove it. And he like yen. Nigel was not enjoying his drag performance and we can read into that all sorts of issues. But like the fact that I believe it was Vanessa and twitch stood up for her and said, I believe that this person can do more side of this style and outside of costume and all that kind of stuff. And then we actually got to like they made it pretty far. They actually got to prove that he made it through radiography round. Yeah, I think that was because I think it was quite clear that he did up training. I did not like he had to talk Nigel into it. Speaking of an Esa who after that I. Sewed though. You know, she's a crazy person. We were like, it's really important that she's here. She's standing up for certain people. She's a little bit more open minded. I this season. She really decided she was going to stand up to Nigel, which I loved in the live shows. She's just a Kuku bananas nonsense person, and but twitch. He was bringing it. He stood up to Nigel the thing where Mary contradicted Nigel and everybody contradict Nigel. And Nigel did the like August to have my opinion that was like fully gist, insulted the choreographer or dancers could have done. Yes, I'm fairly certain. It was, and it was like, and that was a moment. We're mayor Mary really stood up for herself in Nigel. Did that like ridiculous. I'm the dad thing where he's like, because I said, so I'm in charge. My word is fine. It really made me a really boiled by blood, but I love that she stood up to him, and I think that. Which to defend tastic job, especially as a new panel member, especially with the inherit power, dynamic of having been a contestant and owing his not only his entire life, not just. Marriage? Yeah, like his literal entire life, like the story on twitch and I loved seeing his addition in this finale he was going to have his dad was going to make him join the navy if he didn't make it on the show. So like Nigel handed him because his career, so the fact that twitched so consistently through this season stood up to Nigel said his piece felt free to disagree loved having him on the panel gotta say after that first episode where she was super necessary. Vanessa did not really carry through her promise of being necessary every single comment. Oh my God. I love you. It every time. Air. Oh my God, my absolute favorite was I just have to say this really important. Okay. There. It is. Literally or like there was so. Dul without the talent or career tobacco being Paula Abdul, except for Greece live everyone except for amazing ingred line. Yeah. Live though, do you think Hannah lay is going to get a line in red, or is she just going to be in the chorus the way that Blake from season one is in the chorus of the movie version? Absolutely. No way. Analog lines. She at best does a like Ariel during love you Bowab for some reason like, yeah, this is really, really, really not a dance musical, like unless she's gonna play me me. She's not going to like there is like the cute little hand and head dancing in lovey boa some ten in Tango, Maureen, but that's only for named characters. I guess they have like backup dancers sometimes stage it, yeah, but like it is who I mean, there's a thousand reasons. FOX shouldn't be doing rent the live musical housing. So many. But yeah, she's there is nothing for her to do in that. Yeah. I mean, look, I would so much rather see her in the background of ever seeing the Jensen just for a race issue rent is. Yeah, I think just the way that the. I don't know what make up. You're gonna put Johnson in to convince me that she is a living lovey Boheme with these people. Well, unless you got around person at the party where there will always be women and leather flirting with me because she would fit in there. Well. It depends. All right. Because like there's always like, yes, there's the Mimi side of people living lovey him, but there's also the Mark side, and I feel like Jensen really can lean into the Mark side. The lake privilege suburban side ran away from their parents, their parents. For crates and urban Hanukkah or whatever. 'cause marks the like for Christmas Jensen? I'm living at my dance dreams in New York's stop calling me. I'll be like play. Just imagining Johnson as Marta. She's playing Mark in my Oxley I have. There are two pieces in the theatrical canon that I strongly feel are done the same way every single time as a lot of things are and strongly feel would be really benefited from taking all of the characters, stripping them entirely. One of these actually have character descriptions, but taking them throwing them in a bowl and just like casting whoever the hell with regard with no regard whatsoever to the traditionally cast race or gender of the characters. Because like there is no reason why Mark can't be a woman in terms of like not just played by women, but I can actual female character. And that could unlock some fun things in rent. The other one is twelve angry men because just why not it's great play, but you can't do shows with just twelve white men anymore. It's so boring. I do think that there are characters in rent that should. I mean, Mimi has specific lines that alludes to her at the city. Oh, certainly you'd have to. You'd have to like, do some interesting editing and like every everything has like once you change one too, because also like if Mark is a woman, then we're throwing Maureen and JoAnne into that's different now, because what kind of you now JoAnne needs to be a man in order for that story of like what to work, it's just Cobley. Yeah, everything gets thrown up into the air and it would require some like actual retooling. It's not just a super simple fix, but I do think that I'm bored of seeing like every single person be played exactly the same way every single time. Yeah. That is fair. I would have liked to see. The Hollywood bowl. One, I really liked that cast. Who was it again? They're like. A lot of kind of like not like telly long was in it. If you know who that is. A lot of people that I know from like being on telly lung in rent. Yeah, in Hollywood Bill, he was angel. Nobody thought he was in rent on Broadway at some point, but maybe I'm wrong. Not that I'm aware of. I know him from God spell. He's allowed now, but he was angel. And I think that that is a really strong choice and Wayne Brady was Collins and that one. A lot of people whose voices I really like, but haven't like start in a lot of Broadway shows. Interesting. Like those people who are like sneaky singers, like how Jake Gyllenhaal, Wisconsin Assan time. And everyone was like, no way that'll work. That'll be like Johnny Depp doing us on time, and then everyone listened to the clip and they're like, oh, no, actually he's allowed to do Santorum. That's fine. Huge news. Vanessa Hudgens was Mimi and the production that I'm talking about. That's what I was. I was. I was really sure that was that was true and I was waiting for Uniprix it up. It was more thinking of. I was just thinking of Angela Collins, but also skyler Austen as Mark whose voice I love. He would be a lovely Mark. It's people, but like I've listened to it. And so I really like it because it's a lot of people who just like specifically the tone of their voice appeals to me I did for Vanessa was I love? Well, I mean, first of all, there is nothing about Mimi that. Actually, she, I don't know how great an actress she is in mimi's a really hard acting role, but like Vanessa can really see. I don't know why she's on the dancing show. She's definitely a terrible judge, but she can say, I'm so we're fine with that. Skyler asked him does have one of those. I'm a sucker for tenor and he has one of those really sweet Creaney tenors that, like I wait completely disproportionately to the actual quality of the movie or the soundtrack, but I listen to that original pitch. Perfect. Senator all the time. And like Ben Platt doing a magic in me and skyler acid and just doing anything and that the pool mash up of. What's that? Bruno Mars song and everybody was on. Yeah. Yeah, so good. But yes, Schuyler Aston he's one of those people like listen to sing for ever me as well. So we've we've gone an a lot of Broadway directions this time. Hopefully people who listen to this podcast still expect that of us do, but we just do. We can't into stripes and that is the last episode anyway. So what are you going to do? Stop listening, Stu, whatever. We want. So is there anything else we, that's a that's a wrap on the season misleading dance. We have a new winner in the pantheon. Is there anything else you want to touch on before we wrap. I want to touch on fiction and how he calls himself a former winner of the show and always leaves out the fact that he was a co, Amy would have beaten him. Yup. That is true Expedia people we saw in the audience a lot. Did you see that Lindsey was sitting with Jordan Fisher when week and the crowd. I miss that just come to them for like a second one mentioned Lindsey, and she's sitting there with Jordan. I love Georgia. Speeding of people listen to sing forever and never love me. Some Jordan, Fisher. I miss him. I want him back on my screen. So he's going to win. Is dancing stars? Junior, he's co hosting that. Apparently. Yeah. Whose team you see? Yeah, heaven, Frankie Muniz. Those are good choices. Let's run. Yeah, but that must be in the spring because the fall season Joel, the grocer is not a child. I don't think. He is. He's got so much emotional maturity. Don't even make that joke. I was other people from the bachelor verse children. Definitely. Yeah, but not Joe. The grocer, no grossly Sergio's fine. I was always a John person myself. No, no, no, no. But that's because you didn't watch enough paradise. Okay. No, John John, I was like so in. And then when he hooked up with jubilee, I was like, really in because is my all time favorite contestant. She's amazing. The fact that no one ever picks her makes me so mad, and then she never. She gets mad when she gets dumped and she doesn't do interviews ever. So there's just zero jubilee content in my life. Although she did reach wheat, my owed that I wrote her thought that I wrote in two thousand twelve to not twelve, but link when she was on the show which was a long time ago. Now. Anyway, nobody. He, he was just like noncommittal and the sort of like person who kinda like jerk people around, but he doesn't such a like a nice innocent way that nobody notices that he's actually doing some things that are like not the kindest and. NIA. He started to get on my nerves after a while. Even though he was definitely the most attractive, it wasn't the most attractive and but he was like one dateable Hicks. Yeah. Well, no. I mean, I mean, I'm like all in on Joe. The grocer I also I personally deliver them. No, I personally would not pick him. But like Kevin, I think is such a good dude. But yeah, no, John then MO. John's like my tape, my type of those guys, but actual then MO, John, he retired. All right quickly, but eventually anyway, our weekly, that's your bachelor. This is not a bachelor podcast segments. You proud of me for time. Oh Jennifer, Jordan that's like occupying ninety percent of my brain space right now, especially because those are names that I associate with stars. Why Jordan Jordan fishing with dancing with the stars. So you think. So you think. Anyway. I think that that's all we have for you. There was a blooper segment that I absolutely hated because it wasn't funny. Super, not fun time wasting on this finale for season that all we needed was time during the regular season. We had way too much time for those Pinelli I felt, yeah, there was no reason for this to be two hours. Yeah. I also annoys me and I know that they claim they combine the votes, but I've never liked that the top six votes in the top four votes are like the the votes that you get in the top six competition show seemed to just disappear. Yeah, that's always bothered me. They do combine it because Slavic. Got fourth. And that was the week he was like really, really, really bad? Yeah, I think the regardless this was I mean, if I had to rank the top four, this is exactly how it would have been. I I wouldn't be mad at genocea Jensen. Switching. No, that's crazy. I think you just personally don't like I wouldn't be mad at it. Not saying it's from dance perspective wouldn't be. I mean, I can't talk because I think that Jenna Johnson should get last place and things and she's obviously an amazing. Yeah. I mean, I'm if we're if we're ranking to me just by how good they are at dancing. This was the exact order that I would put them in isn't Jenna Johnson. That's her name, right? John Johnson about Genesis Makovsky. Oh my God. If she changes her name from Jan Johnson to Genesis for God's like both funniest thing, I also just like, yeah, someone would like a really elaborate like eastern European name who looks like she's from Utah. I was going to say, isn't Jetta Johnson the name of the person from big brother. Jenna. That's Jen, Jen Johnson, so many different? Yeah, I loved her. She was not well loved by everyone else. She cried over her photo. It's thing anyway. I'm just noting because every time I hear Jena Johnson's name, I'm like, wait, isn't that remembering? Anyway. It's a common name. I imagine not as Jonah Chmerkovskiy. Yeah, I think so. For the season, there's a lot of good dancers on dancing stars this year. There's some people back who I don't glib and whatever. KEO has a good partner. I don't know. It'll be interesting. The Keough has the partner Justice for Keough. No, he has a good. I forget who it is already, but I remember looking it up and being like they gave KEO really good partner. I forget who it is. So also forget who it is. The there were only four people on this house that I even knew who they were by name. I had to look up all the bios. I only knew Joe and Mary Mary Lou. You haven't seen the Harry Potter movies? Yes, I have. I don't know. You said you didn't know of una Lynch. She's with Keough. Okay. Right. Sorry. Yes. I didn't mean to fill. I've seen the mall, yeah, but I've seen the mall except for seven part one, which I quite like is a film. It's in its own right. I've only seen the mole once partly because I think they're super mediocre and partly because I didn't want to like right over the versions in my head because the versions of my head are just like way more interesting than the versions in the film. And I felt if I watched them too many times they would get overwritten although I own most of them now because I'm doing this like giant DVD library project. And I'm so acquiring all these titles even though I will never watch them again, I want to have them. So yeah, I have almost two thousand now which I'm very proud of. But yeah, so I have my Harry Potter DVD's. I'll never watch, but I had to. She was one of the ones who once they read her bio, it was like, oh, of course, I know who that is, but I didn't. I didn't recognize the name. Yeah. Yeah. Which is like most of the dancing with the stars thing for me, never know who someone is. And then to episodes in, of course, I've known who this person is my whole life. I can't imagine a life without knowing who of on a Lynch's. Of course. I mean, she will admit she is one of the few people in the films who I think is really good and may even be like she's allowed. I mean, no one gets overrate the version of my head, but like I would not be that mad if she did. She was very good. Yes, good casting. So that's our dancing with the stars. Started a little. Harry Potter? Yeah, we'll talk about what's the important stuff. We did big brother before getting on the air. So sorry, guys, team Tyler, I guess as long as he dumps. Oh, yeah. Team, slow, March, break, death. Well, I was I was what Tyler one, Haley too. So it was a really hard season. The tensions just been. For everybody who like many do they start going after each other? You're like a line. Haley, but. So that is our episode that is our season. Kelly, what are you have going on that people should check out. Well, okay. So the site has just finished up our summer coverage. So I have all of my Stratford and Shaw stuff up. Those festivals are running through October. If you happen to be in Canada and or mere Canada or want to visit Canada, there's some theater festivals to check out all of that coverage is up there. What else have I did a movie thing recently, we're doing a lot of music coverage right now, and then we're going to get into the fall shows when they start premiering in the next couple of weeks. So that Superfund that's happening on the site. I'm going to get back into the Shakespeare series podcast to be sure to follow my treatment world on. The issue in store and then on social media, at my end world my world and both Twitter and Instagram, and then like hit us up in the comments. I love to reply to the comments and I would like to just because the end of the season gave a small shadow to Jalen Joel, willow Tim and John who are MVP commentaries this year. I love when people come it. It's so nice to talk to you guys. Everyone was team center stage, which I really appreciated and you were right, except that we lost by so so much everybody from team centerstage got wiped out so fast. It was a three to one finale and the last person hanging on with my last draft pick and she still lost. Centerstage that's two losses in a row, but they wanted my heart and it would make me happy that all of our commenters or most of our comforters were team center stage with me, yes, they are. So pretty. Hennelly Darius Chelsea Genesee Slavic. So three of those people were the finale Kelly had JJ, Evan Magda coal in Jensen, a very lovable bun, which like, yeah, other than Darius. I couldn't have cared less about a single person on your team, and I loved every especially because Jensen won we over. I ended up loving my, yeah, my entire team. You had Darius which made me sad, but I was always rooting for him. Even though he wasn't. I believe, if you go back and watch or listen to the podcast, I believe it was like episode two from like last season. I said that Darius was going to be in the top twenty and he was like the greatest answer ever seen in my life. So he's called absolutely stunning dancer, I'll be going back in. I always like to think about the routines that I'm gonna YouTube when I go down a wormhole and a couple of years and Darius routines, I think we'll always come to the top of mind. Yeah, against with Magda and Magnus. Beautiful and wonderful and populus and sunk in love her. Yeah, Magda super on me during the season, but she didn't. She didn't get anything interesting to do, which was frustrating. Yeah, but she was always fun in like the rehearsals and stuff. I was enjoying it. She's like a really dynamic interesting woman, which is why liked her in the first place. Yeah, she's got a great cast photo to. Schuch sassy. All the other ones looked look so posed anyway, I just love that. She like way back to the first time we ever met her. I fell madly in love with her when she was like, Kiki's chew born to talk. I'm gonna talk over him at the time just like the woman after my heart. So all of that is up on my entertainment world dot CA, a, you should check all of that out there. You can find me on Twitter at lead a tweeted and on Instagram, outdated. Graham d- the American injure warrior finale should be out definitely be out by the time. This comes out interesting season. Lots of lots of ups and downs, mostly downs, but you know, we had a great time. We always have fun doing that. I've really sad all my shows end at the same time literally at the same time. So I think dance American enjoy about Sean paradise. All their finale. Exact same time, which is whacky or at least part one of the bachelor in paradise. Finale on Monday. So it's it's all wrapping up. I'm also on a brother, live feed updates that is wrapping up here very soon. And yeah, you can find some of my writing up on my entertainment world as well. And survivor is coming back soon, and I am the score keeper for all of the fantasize or leagues for survivor. So I am your contact person on that. You should go and make a league with four to six of your friends. Fantasize f. a. n. t. s. is e r dot com. It's very hard to spell felt every time I say it, but yeah, do that and pick your players and then yell at me when I get the points wrong. No, don't heal. Elite will yell at you. If you yell at lead. Jomon learnt this the hard way. People have come for me and Kelly has not been here for it. Only Kelly can come for me. I mean, I every week published words for you that I don't agree with. Yeah, one day we're going to see an Editor's Note in their slice will have done that. I definitely did that at the start was like four. The record is wrong of Devon. And then like seven episodes later lead us like fine. I was talking about. But hey, I have been before I was right about Joe Meena. No, I still don't think you're right about. I think he's just got bad, Twitter manners. Okay. So he can't said come for leader, don't do it. Don't do it. I will hurt you. I'm real big guys. I will hurt, you know, that's our parting with them for you for the season. It's one that I wish that everybody would would really adhere to. Don't remember lead. Yeah. And everyone be cool in the comments section all the time. 'cause our commenters are so nice. Oh, that's not true across everything that I put out. Here's it. Here's a thing. Can we get away throughout my list? The people whose names I mentioned, can you go and comet on leaders morning updates or big brother and just like tell show them how it's done. Show the people commenting on big brother content, how to engage respectfully in intelligently online. That would be really helpful because you guys are great at it, and they seem to be confused about how to respectfully comment and criticize in the in the YouTube comments. This being all audio is like the great blessing of my life. I'm sure that none of our listeners are those people. So yeah, we've we've been dragging this out because I'm sad to wrap this up. I love talking about, so I think you can dance with you. I love this show so much. I hope to get back to the place where I love this show so much one day I, it just still brings me so much joy. All these years later we've been watching for. My life now which brought me great, joy, win, JJ jumped over cat. That was good. Yeah, that brought me grant joy as well. That was happy. Anytime twitch talks or reminds me that he exists. That brings me great joy. I just think he's a wonderful person, and I'm so when I think about twitches life and like how so you think you can dance like if all it did even if it had never produced a single YouTube where the video or had never started another career, if just gave twitch the happiness which seems to have. I'm cool with it. That's enough for me. That's enough good. Put into the world. He asked the one I play. It's the quote that I always go back to about, say anything condenses, melody, and Susan one thing if I can inspire one little girl the dance than it will have been worth it. If we can just remember that just twitches life was improved by this show that will be enough, and then twitches going forth and inspiring every Ellen audience member yet every person who watches that show on the Disney channel about weddings. What. Shoe with Allison where they talked about what it was like engagements or weddings or something happening at DisneyWorld. Yeah, I remember now. They're so pure. So weird. No, I twitch. Twitches happiness is important to me. I like to believe. I don't know if that's true. I like to believe things like it brought Travis Danny BAC together or life. They had nothing to do with lexin Taylor's love, but maybe it has something to do in lexin Taylor's. Love. Maybe Genesee and Slavic will fall in love who knows? Don't you're forgetting our favorite couple KiKi and coin. Oh my God. Forgive KiKi in coin. Always forget about it and then, but you know what? To be honest, I, when I interviewed her, I was a little bit like, oh, wow. Like she, she was not the magic. I expected her to be, whereas like Katie was so fun. Yeah, like she was smart and sharpen like really fun coin coin was just like she was perfectly nice, but she reminded me of how like it was suddenly I was suddenly much more aware of how young she is where she just she never came off as lightweight on the show. I thought she was like, really, I don't know. I was I was a little bit what so then the key thing would ever sign he's boring. I don't understand, but whatever it's well, they haven't posted a photo with each other since June twenty. Six. So you never know Lou. I mean, I'm rooting for all happiness for the pretty pretty dancers. How old is KiKi? Do we know that. That I think he is. Yeah. He could be anywhere from like twenty four to like thirty three easily. He's I would not be surprised if he is twenty two or thirty seven. Who can ever be sure. No way, no way we'll ever know because I'm certainly we definitely aren't going to go Bill. It. I, I use all of my googling on this podcast by looking up Dan Kennedy a few weeks ago who comes up when I type DA into Instagram, he's. Oh, so funny. Instagram, who are you looking. Doesn't matter. No one. Okay. Commenters investigate that you. I'm the search and pretend Karen all the time. Dan kennedy. Yeah. What what else do we have to say leader? I feel like we don't have anything. I think we've, we've got an hour forty five. That's probably not a record for us, but. Let's pretty pretty long for as I think you can dance recap. So we miss you so much tweeted us if you want us to do some like other coverage of anything ever. I think that we almost have to do a rent live podcast. We probably trainwreck we can. We can talk more about that. We'll do something if it's not on here, we'll put it on my site because I am in charge of that. It'll it'll be out there and some something musical is that probably she in ury. Really. Do we ever talk Jesus Christ you per star live on here? I don't think that we did. Did you see it? I did, but I've, I don't know that musical well, so I didn't it just one. It just want an EMMY. We'll want to budge on. Got it. I know yet as did Angela Webber, which feels very overdue yet it three different people. Got it. Because of that when I thought that was very funny. Composers or the easiest are the easiest ones for the got, definitely. Most of most guts are composers the app. There's also if you win a Tony, you're guaranteed a Grammy and blah, blah, blah, blah and Miko rent is January twenty seven. So we should be cast for that. Probably pretty soon. God that's going to be a really fun cat. I want at least it should be if you're on that. But hope. They dropped the ball in that cast. That'll be like truly a problem. Because one, there's only one care or no, the women too. So there's there's three characters who I, in my opinion, have actually hard vocals. So and nobody needs to actually be able to dance. 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2019 Week 15 Recap

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2019 Week 15 Recap

"Round with the. NFL podcast spends a lot of time on corner. Welcome to another the around the NFL podcasts presented by the United States Marine Corps. My name is Dan Hands is coming to you from room filled with Heroes Chris wesseling linked to my left. Greg Rosenthal to my right. What does that boys? Hey Dan what a day. What a day? No marks tessler because as as we told you last week. He was in Oakland covering the last raiders. Game didn't end how the people end up there and agile chose. We're ruined enthrone on the field. The question will be is mark ruined. He's still with us. We'll see you actually makes it to this segment at the end of the show little later in on the show we will check in with great marquess and hopefully his cell phone is activated and everything is good all right it was going to encounter ruination. I think it would have happened a awhile ago. That's fair all right. We got a great Sunday of NFL football in our league week. Fifteen the playoff. What it's like like a lot of things once you start using something? Ironically at a certain point no one's gotta even understand that it's ironic that you don't really like the maybe you like the whole willing to run that risk August. Okay now I think I think I speak for all of us grow. You know you like to try to dip your toe in the greater part of NFL media media culture but always viewed myself as a bit of an outsider west. I think you feel the same way so to say our league you know feels good. It's like Oh wow may Progress is being made. I'm maybe they'll accept me. Maybe except US telephone at aspirational. All right now. I don't care to be on the outside Pie wes. Booth read a book called Colin Wilson. The outsider now that'll get you going about outsiders Okay another book a recommendation from the Great Chris Wesseling. We're going to go through all of the Sunday Games Capping it with a little title. bill steelers talk Heinz Field and After that will you know give you a full picture of what's going on as we hit the home stretch is when it's really great to have Greg Rosenthal man that his awareness when it comes to the playoff picture of the man's a human calculator that he'll tell you where everything stands at the end of Sunday's Sunday's games so make sure you stick around for that but we have a lot yes wes tabulations on tabulations for machinations. That's Greg's mind when the complain about Greg. I mean the flexing between the I always no one to call time out. I know yeah. He's talking about as a matter like if I'm sitting at home bye bye couch or in a newsroom. And the other guys on a field eighty thousand screaming fans with like seven hundred different decisions to make. He can't do it. I can do it. Great could sit Andy Reid eight on his knee and tell him how to run the end of game situation. So you can do that. You're great in the down and distance and timeout situations and and and your great with figuring out playoff calculations. So that's when I talk about strengths right there greg. That's near the top. What else game analysis have we? Ah also your ability to navigate into like the internal workings the NFL media machine. It'd be like a respected guy like you like to live inside and outside the boxer you a little bit of a bad boy but you also right there and their one foot in one foot out if you can pull it off. Why not? Why even talk about week fifteen? Let's talk about fifteen fifteen and we'll start with a a game with big playoff ramifications the Texans and titans with a lot on the line in the AFC. South John Watson hands off to hide to the left Carlos has the five Carlos to the pylon touchdown Juiston ten yard. Td Ron L.. L. Who Marc Vandermeer now Kuopio. That's Carl Lewis Hyde handsome. I guess he is Texans Radio Network Carlos Hyde ran for one hundred and four yards scored a t day with less than eleven minutes to play. Texans score ten trae points in the fourth quarter pulled out to beat the titans twenty four twenty one in Nashville. I you win for the accents. Who put themselves in the driver's seat in the AFC NORTH AFC south with two games supply and that includes of course a game against the titans now west? This Houston is so tough to figure out on a good day could beat anybody. Nobody today was a good day. They are tough to figure out. And I'm not sure anyone's going to have them figure it out after this game what we do know. Is that the Andrea Hopkins into Shawn Watson are absolute flute stars and they took control the game in the fourth. Quarter a game which I think the titans offense generally looked more impressive than the Texans often a game when the titans had about sixty five more total yards than the Texans but a game in. I put stars next to this play when it happened. Because it's a fourteen point swing in the game anthony. Anthony forks are loses the ball at the goal line. It's wrote an interception. It was closer to fumble Whitney Mercilus brings it all the way back down to the red zone. And they score on Kenny stills touchdown touchdown so that was a fourteen point swing in the game and that the titans did recover to tie it up and then could not stop De'andre Hopkins because the titans have to you really big weak spots right now they're cornerbacks which are not healthy. Dorie Jackson an Malcolm Butler and had been out for a couple of weeks and they're kicking game which really surfaced early. When Ryan's up Ryan suck up missed a head? A blocked field goal before halftime label opted against a long field goal and tried for a fake punt instead. That was batted down and that really came back to haunt and they lost. They lost by three points. The margin of that field goal That this was such a big loss for the Titan speakers. Texans they have to do is win a game next week on. NFL Network on that Saturday Day tripleheader clinches the AFC south that would that would clinch this Bot for the tech put his foot back in. I'm going hey. Hey Peter Schrager Greg. You're on grab drinks. I'll do that. I I remember Peter Shaker as a young guy coming up I WANNA get drinks. While I was at Rotorua back in New York. Get a couple couple of Shrek. Sound a little Fox. Sports one out there. They could clinch a playoff spot. Not Necessarily the division next Saturday they would need a titans loss. You you know took to clinch the division in Week Sixteen but the fact is the titans can get in if the titans aren't going to get in even if they win in these last two games necessarily and the fact that Tennessee had that spot and sometimes a division comes down to this. You don't like to think of it but that play where they're we're on the goal line and Ryan tannehill throws a good pass that ends up getting dropped in and brought back that sometimes it can swing an entire division and goes swinging entire season season. One play and I think able. He knew that after the game he was he was bitter. He was really cheesed off. Heading to hit a heading to the tunnel final and it was almost like he could. He could read his mind. We're never getting that one back. And we needed Derrick Henry. He had been on an incredible roll. Roll statistically not bad at all twenty one eighty six to the hamstring injury or the quad injury. The leg injuries dealing with did that seem to hold them back at all. I didn't think thinks so. It just seemed more like game flow and the Texans did a pretty good job of not allowing those big carries now. There was an impressive goal. Line stand by the Texans that the titans ultimately scored on but they stuffed Henry twice Within the final two yards before the goal line and then they stuffed The fullback blasingame on a really nice play by Zach Cunningham. Then Tan Tannahill bootlegged. But that's why Henry didn't get in the end zone and and I think I would credit the Texans defense for not allowing the big plays that you've you've been seeing from him where he's just going for seventy yards. The the Texans are just different team when fuller's on the field I know he didn't blow up. He's five for sixty one but the whole oftens just makes a little more sense before we leave this. I do think we have to mention. Aj Brown is just a superstar. And I wish I had made this point before he went eight for one fourteen and one. That's three hundred yard games for him in the last month. He is just like he's the receiver I want from the two thousand nine hundred class. No matter what I want Terri McLaren by far and then. Aj Brown number AJ Bradtha just such a physical beast. He's just he's I don't know if he's a future number one he's a number one right now like he can dominate games right now and it makes them more dynamic and it does make me think at least they have a chance I know they gotta play the saints and then go to Houston but I do think they have a chance to win both those games which is what they'll need. He's awesome after the catch. He's also been helped out quite a bit by the titans. Essentially being the best play action team and football over the last what five six weeks their custom made for play action with Derrick Henry playing well and Tannehill let's face it having a big arm west. You could start a team right now with any wide receiver in the League is at twenty seven year old. Andre Hopkins PRA him or one of those two I think Hopkins Skins is probably the better player in a vacuum. All right. He was a great player on Sunday. Says younger though. So you gotta factor that. Let's move to a game with some big playoff ramifications in the NFC Prescott in the gun. Fake now he's going to be rushed by Fowler steps back from that phrase deep down to thirty five on awesome dance him. That's easiest fifty nine yard touchdown Prescott Overthrown Austin's ever caught and he's doing a little hoedown dare into the end zone. Fifty nine yards. Press down to Austin for the touchdown Brad Sham. The shammgod haven't heard from him in awhile. KRLD L. D.. Yep the good cowboys are back. Didn't think you see him again. Digit Dak Prescott threw two touchdown passes his Zeke. Elliot went over one hundred yards a couple of scores cowboys. Just pound on the rams forty four to twenty one was the final Gera- World Greg. The cowboys seemed more likely. Roll over and die after the last few weeks disappointment instead they looked galvanized crippling the defending NFC Champs playoff hopes in the process. Yeah this is one the most surprising results for me the season. It shouldn't be. I should think that the what you've seen over. The course of entire season should way more than what you see in the last couple of weeks but I just didn't think think the cowboys had it in them especially their defense but it was like old timers night. Everyone had a great time. Here's Jason witten catching along great touchdown down with his one hand. It's Sean League in sacks and a game turn and interception it just like a everyone's happy especially Jones fever dream is what he's always wanted. This is old guys that he's been to loyalty just continuing to do damage. What a schizophrenic team? They this team. They have a plus ninety point differential for the season. Almost all of their losses have been closed and almost all of their wins have been blowouts right until last Thursday night when to to me they just got steamrolled by bears and really the last two weeks against the bills in both those games they had some opportunities but last week was so dispiriting. I took that to seriously clearly but the way that they one not so much on offense where it was all the running game I mean Dak had one hundred sixty yards other than in that one. You're broken play. The defense demarcus Lawrence in Sean Lee and Kerry Hyder had a big game in the secondary they just dominated Los Angeles up front. Todd Gurley I. Six runs went for one yard. He ends up with twenty yards on the game. Jared Goff gets hurt hitting his thumb on a helmet but at that point the game was basically over and it affected goff the rest of the way for sure but I think it was twenty eight to three by the time he suffered that head injuries. So that game to see that it happens every week. It feels like when the quarterback hitting a face mask but this is a wall the helm I've seen Andy Dalton season get wrecked easier. He wasn't shooting straight the rest of the way and they kept him in deep into garbage time and they got some numbers then it does make you wonder if he'll be playing because because the rams are eight and six are still mathematically alive but it's basically over the. I need to went out and the Vikings need to lose out yet in both those either seem likely I don't know I mean there's only now is left but it's probably the end of the road for the rams and A and a disappointing way for it to go out because West. This is a team that we were talking about it all last week. They seem to be peaking and figuring it out. So that's what made it so disappointing. Because they'd never felt like they were in this game it was just the cowboys. Punched him them in the mouth To start the game and before you knew it was a blowout by the halftime. The other rams were surging into this game and and I really talked about how well their defenses is plain in here they they allow forty four points. I think Greg let yourself off the hook for not getting the cowboys analysis correct. This team is resistant to analysis all year and especially the after laying down last week. How could you predict this game? The Rams are the team. That's not your fault. The Rams of the team where you think they're turned senator better. How can you predict either of these teams really without the rams have been playing the last few weeks and how their defense has been playing for half the season? Now you can't but I think they're an example of sometimes uh-huh their defense looked better against bad competition. Sure the the encouraging thing for the cowboys is that their offense is still capable of a game like this because it really was the line fine. It wasn't the passing game. It was the line opening up holes for Zeke. who had won seventeen into their first to their first three touchdown drives his fifteen plays as for ninety yards and fourteen plays for ninety seven? So that's I think it's a tough way to run an offense but it's the way they always look the best which the short a third in twos that Zeke's picking up Tony Pollard. Who got a lot of it in garbage time but still goes twelve for one thirty one? I mean that they would love it. If Dak Prescott doesn't have to throw that much. I would love Austin came into the League I believe is an eighth overall. Pick and never happened for him. Great Stat lines. That you heard the touchdown called the beginning of this. This conversation he finishes one fifty nine for one touchdown on one target. Well you know I made a count and that was a big Dutch because that's when it felt like the game was slipping slipping away at that point from the rams. There was controversy at the beginning of the game. which we should just hit real quick that Dak Prescott the cowboys? Abbas win the toss and the referee. Walt Coleman I believe yes all Anderson Walt. Walt Coleman Walt Disney. He ruled that that that Jack had made a selection. He had chosen to kick rather than shows to defer but then good job I fox they find find more audio that clearly shows that walt missed it and They conferred and commonsense carried. The Day in New York allowed to cowboys to get the ball to start the second half which thank God because initially Mike Pereira came on the air and said that this was not something that was reviewable but apparently it was Kudos to the NFL. And I don't know why but I'm always pleasantly surprised when commonsense carries the day and Finally on this game bath makes his cowboys debut. And this almost immediately you know well yeah immediately. Right after the coin flip drama where the cowboys looked terrible. Greg Asa gone off on Jason Garrett newsroom which is just like the most. NFL twitter thing happened on another team this now. Though it's it's it's never the players fault it's always but Evidence Garrett's you know that's the Garrett type record. This is what happened next for the cowboys. Ricky only winning kickoff Kelly four takes over his first week as a Dallas Cowboy at least on the active roster during the battle moved the ball to the forty. That's where the rams will shut up and not start at any worse. It can only get better care the wait now. Why did he do the rest of the game? And I'll tell you what he did the rest of the game three or three field goals including a fifty yard bomb. That would've been good for eighty and he hit all five extra points so he was perfect after that. An auspicious start. Oh Yeah Kahiye. Has it figured out as the guy. Hey Hey what. A what. A fly in overcoming adversity. Let us move up once firing and it is a Scud past goes deep into the zone tape players point wins and I gripe I can't spoke board great war. Where have you been all our lives? Meryl Res Squad. That's been great great. Call by Reese Eagles Radio Network Carson Wentz led the Eagles on a seventy five yard touchdown drive in the final minutes. Capped by his third touchdown pass to. Yes Greg Ward Junior. The Eagles keep their NFC east title hopes alive. Thirty seven twenty seven win over the Redskins Fedex Field Greg. This turned out to be one of the best escape. The day go figure six scoring plays in the fourth quarter nine lead changes and one of the all-time bad beats as time expired. ooh That's right if you were if you were on the Washington team that would have been bad. Be Painful but you if you weren't you just enjoyed a classic Carson wentz performance and in the second half it was one of those games from whence where it's kind of like whatever your biases are coming into the game with went. You'll see what you want. Because he missed a lot the throws that were there. I would say in the second and third quarters of this game especially a really the first half in the second half He. He goes eighteen for twenty one for one hundred forty one yards in three touchdowns including one of the best touchdown passes. I've seen all season. You guys you guys have probably probably seen that in the fourth quarter to take one of his leads. I mean they had to bring them back three separate times in the second half. He had the game winner to Greg Ward which was a fantastic play and then he had a couple other third and fives. There was one to ward in one to Boston Scott where Carson Wentz just did his Carson wentz magic and. I think this is what eagles fans in. What's been mostly a loss? Season have wanted to see out of their starting quarterback. Just I don't care if their whole offense is just hurts gutter and Mile Sanders in terms of that. So he's Gonna the throat like he made it work and did it on a day whereas defense stunk. Maybe a little scattershot. Maybe there's inconsistency but the reason why Wentz is such a fun quarterback quarterback to me is like he is one of those guys you could feel it. He's a guy like up. Get on my back I will take you. There will get it done. And he's done a back to back weeks it's not a good illegals team. It's middle of the road team but the fact that he's kept them relevant here. I think it's all on Wednesday. The throw one of the ones you're referring to the miles sanders enders Dart in the back corner of the growing it through arms of redskins defenders a clothesline throw. I don't know how many other guys in League can make that pass. I was impressed by the running back. Combo of Mile Sanders in Boston. Got This is not a game where you can say when's didn't have any help. Dallas Godart made a great one-handed catch on a pass thrown behind them. Erz Did his normal thing. Greg Ward had four for forty in that last drive but most importantly Mile Sanders had the best game of his career. One hundred seventy two yards from scrimmage including nineteen carries for one twenty two and Boston. Scott Kinda backed up his performance from the other night. I know that doesn't look too fancy. was fifty five yards from scrimmage but it was a number of key third down conversions and it was all because the eagles defense couldn't get a stop. which was the most surprising thing the entire game the eagles defense had a gallstone no? QB HITS NO SACKS. Haskins had the best game of his career and he's been a sack machine right over and ended it was largely because he had time to throw and for the most part he made good throws if Sims Stephen Simmons caught yes lately underthrown ball but very catchable in the fourth worth quarter. The Eagles would have been down a touchdown there when when they were going for the game winning drive so let's check in on the state of the Eagles for the last month. You and everyone else has said everything thing is so hard for this offense. It's just so hard and it wasn't the first half of this lame even in the first half you're saying the same thing was the second half impressive enough to where you think of them differently currently going into next week because it's the cowboys like they have something to hang their hat on now. A little bit. Yeah they really have five guys. Ju It's Ward Erz Godart Art Sanders and Scott and that was it. I mean our data whiteside. He's on the field but he might as well not be there hit that are who targets. No catch this. Was My point last week Ward Award in Boston. Scott have in this team's possession all year. It's fair has they played guys who can't catch in can't make big plays. They just went to waste all year. I don't feel overly confident. Because they've done this against two pretty poor defenses but I think they have to feel like you have something on offense. It's what we've been talking about with them all year once they fix one problem Another one pops up defense hasn't been good really certainly not today and they're much healthier. Anybody that with great confidence makes a prediction about the week. Sixteen game cowboys. Don't believe anything. That's coming out of their mouths they they are overconfident. Just use that as an indicator whether they know what they're talking about because we've seen enough from both these teams that it's unpredictable. What you'RE GONNA get Sunday to Sunday? It is and yet. I think it's a it's okay okay to say that the cowboys should be the favorite. I don't care that they're on the road that they if they're the better team apple. Here's the thing I'm not necessarily pick. I probably will pick them and I. It wouldn't surprise me if the Eagles win. I'm not saying that I wouldn't feel confident. But their best game is just clearly better because the eagles have no best game these are their best games winning winning these dogfights against doc teams all right let us move on speaking dog teams. All it takes the staff fires to the right path. Goodbye gone to the left side line. Forty two thirty Stefan Gilmore to the ten and route to his second. Pick six of the season Patriots. You unlocked at one up. What WanNa do by Gilmore this Patriot chocolates late humour closes throated a flat? Kili lock shops. The sixty four yard touchdown. Second half start by him. Here is nice. We had a nice little run their second up so lack Zolak gets the pond go drums. Stefan Gilmore is Gili the get loose collapse. OJ Scott Zolak with a call for the Pager Patriots Radio Network. Yes goldilocks return. One of New England's four interceptions US sixty four yards to the house patriots clinch a playoff. Berth Sunday thirty four thirteen win over the bengals game that will be remembered less for its outcome and and more for the latest patriots scandal that preface it but forget about that at eleven to remain in position for the all important first round bye and now we welcome formerly the Great Germy Bergman Fellow Native New Yorker but okay same thing torture jets Fan Burgo. Tell us how the Patriots did it on Sunday Well you know all week West was talking about how the Bengals trap game for the Patriots. Nobody wants to play rejected. Elected a three game losing streak by the most it would have been one of the great predictions. He looked great for about two quarters. Nearly two quarters ten ten with about about two minutes left in the In the second quarter and Alex Ericsson muffs upon and from there the Patriots rolled. The Patriots kicked a field goal to go into the half to take a lead and and then coming out of the half Dalton throws two picks on the first he drives both Gilmore who was in coverage on tyler. Lloyd Second Gilmore Player of the year the big game for him. This is a big game for him. You know we're talking about T.. J. Watt or Daniel Hunter and some spaces Stefan Gilmore has been the the deploy for pretty much the entire season. Starting with the ooh man defense In the side of the season so and then Jesse Jackson got two picks at the end Dalton through four picks season high. And I think this is a a reminder that the Patriots secondary even against inferior opponents is probably the best in the League and a reminder that the Patriots can can beat up on these teams but the offense Look terrible again. I mean Brady had a season low in passing yards. Edleman didn't look right. Nicole Harry had a couple of catches SUNUNU. Who was was dropped right. Seems right now dropped catches on all over the place. Thirty one dropbox for the Patriots passing one hundred sixteen ecksteen yards rough that they didn't look as bad as that sound it did. I mean that's side from the pick six. The Patriots had had two scores in two touchdowns in the second half and both of them came on short fields. So they're not moving the ball and they're averaging averaged four point six yards per play Brady got hit six. They ran the ball a little bit though which they they have not been able to do and they get into Keel Harry involved playing him about. I think it was thirty six snaps where he hasn't been too involved. He had a couple of runs. He did get a touchdown catch. They're just looking for incremental improvement with with the line I would think especially because they're going to need a running game and they're going to need a turnover margin like this. It's it's not an easy method to try to go in a super bowl with turnover margin. But they're plus twenty four on the year a lot of that's been against the bad teams in league but that that's the the only way they're going to win. Games in the playoffs against good teams is with the secondary picking off passes so by by that statement. You're saying you have no hope that they're gonNA turn their offense around I. I have hoped that they can be situationally a lot better. Yes that they can. They can be good enough that but there's no way they're winning. Three playoff games games without the defense and special teams balling out. That's their recipe. Greg this is this is not news to you. You've been tracking his team very closely as you track all teams but especially with your boys. The Patriots Tom Brady lives in the sub Gabbard zone. Now like this is not. This is happening every week. He go all the way back last. Let's see five weeks now. Starting with the the eagles win seventeen ten four point six yards per attempt and Gabbard zone is anything sub five yards. Pretend five point one yard Nixon sub six five point one against the cowboys. Six point nine against the Texans with some garbage time at the end and then four point seven last week against the chiefs and then four point four this week. I mean this is Burgo. This is nothing new and we keep on. Say Oh hell he'll turn it on. Turn a one thirty four to thirteen. It's worth pointing. What's that they won thirty four to thirteen? Yeah no that's fair to point out but you know when you look at the scoreboard you're playing the bengals who are a loss away from the first pick in the draft there were fans more patriots fans and Bengals fans at this game but the mangles fans who were there they were saying the either tiger go bengals go whereas in the by you go right. There rooting for Joe Borough. They were paying attention to the heisman. Trophy that's close to now right magic number one. Because they're they're up to the The giants foreshadowing win over the dolphins. Burgo game sorry well two games ahead of the of the of the bengals it. It is crazy I mean they throw the ball eight times. This new thirteen yards five times. The Eh this is becoming a bigger concern. He looked banged up our. I heard that he was in this game. Game five targets for nine yards and I don't know what to take from the running game either because the Bengals I mean against every team except the jets can't stop the the run and Michelle had a great game birkhead. Revenge game with a touchdown a late in the second half But I'm not sure how much to read into that because of the opponent it's it is crazy though. This is their tenth straight eleven win season so they did it all decade eleven plus no no other team in NFL L. Histories ever gone above seven straight of the way I kind of look at it as like if this is the end of the Patriots like the at the end is like they're they're winning eleven. That's that's like a worthy end to what's been the greatest dynasty and what's happening here it's true though like if integration of the Patriots traits which just so happens against the backdrop of the latest scandal that is gripping. This team is spy Marta. Eh spy harder which featured of course Jay Glazer of Fox going on the pre-game show and having video evidence initiative. What went down right down to a bengals? Stafford West proud former Cinzia. Cincinnati resident that guy for the bengals was very strong in his takedown of that Patriots Via video offer. We have a spot for him on West security the jackets which you see on the sidelines most NFL so the way he he handled it and the way the Patriots staffer immediately. Just I'll delete it all. Hey what if I delete it. Nobody has to be the wiser so I know. Give me a break with how bangles guy the it's like a cop pulled somebody over is like the the Bengals guy what are you said. He made a comment like well. You should have thought about this before you did. It was like one of those like dad lines that we needed a naked light bulb in there. Maybe just one lone chair it was it was a great grilling session by bengals security. So I guess I'm just pointing out Greg. Your quarterback looks done and now we've got another scandal hanging over your head. This is as Lebanon threes grade at set. The video has health care about the skin. It's helped them though the video as you guys said in the previous show. You didn't think there's too much video which you can watch Thankfully kind of supports everything that they said that there would be gaining from this. What they were watching the sideline? Hi actually feel less confident about the patriots after seeing that video. I don't think Belgium orchestrated at all but certainly should be investigated. But it's it's happening happening. I just love that was just you know Antonio Brownies. The gift that keeps giving they should sign Antonio Brown. Maybe Oh my God I'm I'm coming back around lost. It needed need someone who can get open Okita Burgis Stick Raffarin other game. I got nothing to do all right. Let's roll you're actually writing up. The Senate Taylor has snap. Looks left. Matt throws caught Jones top down sort of the end zone. He ruled in or out. He's ruled short art. Got To review the play. My Goodness Ryan to Jones has given Atlanta the lead twenty three twenty. Two ten plays seventy yards words in one forty-six unbelievable West German David Archer with the call. For the Falcons Radio Network. All right we do a Frankenstein work on that highlights because it doesn't deliver the the drama of what happened because one play after an incredible Hossen hooper td catches overturned on a suspect review. Julio Jones's awarded a touchdown upon review after suspect spot by game officials. You got that right Yup going. On in the final seconds. The Falcons Twenty nine twenty two win over the niners Those final six points came via a fumble recovery Lateral Shenanigans. That only. Al Michaels Could Love Wink Wink. Another one of those Burgo Oh classic letdown game for the body makes sense of this one. I mean this is a classic trap game you look at the schedule and between the saints the Rams and the seahawks and the back four. They're scheduled they're playing the Falcons who have put up forty against the panthers last week. They've been playing pretty well on the back half of the season and so the niners should have handled his team pretty easily. They've had a couple. They had a couple of injuries today. Richard Sherman di Ford Western. Rich Burke. Were all out and that certainly had an effect but you would have thought maybe you you were GonNa get a shootout between these two sides given how The niners had been playing against a team. Like the saints and then How the Falcons playing on offense all year and really? It was a defensive struggle Duggal up until the fourth quarter when they started trading scores Garoppolo scored on a pass to call US check The the Falcons comeback and score. And then you know the the niners kick a field goal in the nine. And the Falcons get back down the field thousands back down the field and you have that wild sequence of events once in eight seconds. There's a pass to Austin Hooper that he's catching in between his legs. He's holding onto the ball with only one hand. But it touches the ground think slips it slips out of his hand it slips out of his hand but the call and I'm just glad because ball don't lie that they they got the touch on the next play because that's not how they deserve to lose the Falcons we're was the we're talking about. Replay again here. Where was the evidence that overturns that call? Where did we see an angle that showed the pigskin touching the field turf? I think you definitely saw in his left hand or whatever it was you see and hold the ball it touches some some sort of service and then he his grip loosens is meaning look though was up against i. I don't think so. I think I think it hit the terror if I'm not going to see evidence. I'm with Dan on that one it. It's all him at least fumbled the ball in the end zone. It's not too costly for the forty niners. I know they do people get really into like oh they fell down to the fifth seed. Okay okay. That's fine if they win their next two games they should be okay. They should be the one seat if they beat the seahawks. Not even if they beat the right. Well that's the other rams game could affect whether it'd be the one seed or or just winning the division in getting the two seed but it's not a killer I've never seen a game where it's to pass catchers going against each other quite like this George Kitto. Seventeen targets thirteen catches one hundred thirty four yards. No one else on the team had more within four targets. Julio Jones Twenty targets seen for one thirty four no one else on the team had more than twenty seven yards so it's just Julio versus kittle back and forth and I love that sounds great fun game where they're so short handed at receiver in Atlanta compared to what they started the year with. And you just throw it the Julio Twenty Times and he it goes in wins at Ta got it. There's there's this idea in fantasy circles that like whole you because he goes long stretches without touchdowns over the hill. Now he's a me still an oprah. Oh you probably just said this exact these numbers but they had exactly the same. CS thirty four. That is odd very odd. It was ellsberg point it it it was. It was more Stark with the niners though. Because you know they have been you know PSA succeeding on offense because they'd been throwing deebo Samuel Emmanuel Sanders getting that receiver game In the last half of the season beefed up but here there was a Garoppolo is holding the ball too long. He ended up dumping the ball off to most dirt and kill a bunch and it was actually the the the fact that Kendall had such big line and no scores was indicative of how kind of broken and slow the niners offense looked all season or a in this game Their their first scoring drive and this had made a bunch of big plays against the saints. Right they had the big touchdown to manual sanders and all that their first scoring drive was twenty. One plays for ten ten minutes and forty seconds the longest drive in football this season and it looked like they were going to control the clock against the Falcons and they were holding the Falcons On scoreless for most of the game But it didn't work out at the end I. I'm kind of amazed at their defensive line which I started the season thinking they could be historic and now they're just great great. I'm just amazed that that's that they couldn't just dominate the game enough to just win. But that's what happens sometimes when you hav