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"davenport brothers" Discussed on Happy Hour Gets Weird

Happy Hour Gets Weird

03:22 min | 2 months ago

"davenport brothers" Discussed on Happy Hour Gets Weird

"So at this point the davenport brothers freely admitted that they were performing magic tricks and not performing seances with the help of ghosts but they still toward performing their acts and despite this admittance many people still believed spirits will were helping. The brothers performed such awesome tricks really. I think people were just like this. Shit's too good to be magic. Yeah william died in eighteen. Seventy seven leaving. I wrote to continue the act until the eighteen ninety s. And this is where old harry. Houdini comes in old hairy. Old harry houdini. Just before iras the death in nineteen eleven. He revealed the brothers secrets to harry. Houdini secrets such as the volunteer. Quote unquote in the cabinet with the men was a plant. Oh and why did they add the idea of being tied with rope. Not because they wanted boehner's yeah not because of boehner kinks stuff. Cassie as boys. Their father had show them had shown them how to escape being tied up okay. Weird is very strange. It's weird father sometime to be sure. Yeah the dad probably just wanted to sense to leave him the fuck alone and then just made game where he just tied him up trying to get out of this. One boys. Do your nineteen forties. I know it's older than that. But do your do your nineteen forties accent. See here get out of these ropes. You kids. I made you do that wrong. Era very good so because they had learned as boys to escape rope restraints. They were very good at it. And that's why they added it to their show. Okay this this went in a better direction than like bt k. Like this is. This could have gone very wrong. Bt k. well the the boys that the brothers doing rugs could have. It went away that it did but it could have gone pt k. I think that they had a good dad. I think he was. I think he was a good guy. He was a part of their act at least at the very beginning like he he was their manager and he i think he was cool. But i mean we don't know anything about the mom because women you know fuck it right. Yeah they're they don't have a voice anyways remember that he's a police officer so maybe he did it as a if you're ever tied up or or kidnapped or kidnapped yes i could see that as like a safety measure total. Yeah yeah. there's a lot of good if you're ever restrained videos online and i've watched multiples of like multiple different videos showing you how to get out of different kinds of restraints. It's honestly important. You should look them up it. That is such a good thing to bring up. Because i've seen those two and it is such a good thing to watch so.

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"davenport brothers" Discussed on Happy Hour Gets Weird

Happy Hour Gets Weird

05:01 min | 2 months ago

"davenport brothers" Discussed on Happy Hour Gets Weird

"Second part of the seance was kind of similar to what their original show was only. It was a more skilled version of that. Didn't get busted and they also added phosphorescent oil to the instruments that they glowed when they would move around. So it'd be in a dark room and people see the instrument outlined kind of moving while it was playing but they didn't see the ash which it was the reason that they were tied up is 'cause they're boehner's were actually playing the instruments they could only get a boner that strong and that skilled if they were tied. You know skilled enough to play the violin. Yes i'm physically crying right. I'm trying not to but i am. The phosphorescent oil thing reminded me of the episode that we did on the radium girls right. Yes god which was very deadly Actually probably not shouldn't play with that. No the radium girl. Okay even if you don't wanna listen to our episode read about the radium girls story because it will fucking blow your mind. Yeah okay so. Mary currie her husband. I think is named stephen curry stefan curie. He actually wow weird random tie in but he was a convert to spiritualism as a scientist he was determined to disprove it and then actually became a convert convert convert cover. That is a crazy bizarre rant. Tie-in yeah that in your pocket for the next trivia night you drop that sweet factual nugget on an unsuspecting stranger. Prepare getting it a wedding proposal within twenty four hours getting cow. I'm the croupier. And i'm like you'll be married within a day and you're you're getting booked so business was going pretty good until the civil war started getting real shitty Kill yeah so. The davenport brothers took their act to europe. Oh so they just like dipped get outta here. Didn't really make any money anymore. Let's go to go then to how on the the amount that i'm attempting accents from around the world. This episode is criminal is a criminal so so in europe. The audience was much more skeptical. Okay the audience. They're the audience. Volunteers tied tighter knots. Okay they complained. That shows in darkness seemed to be hiding something okay so clearly. There been around longer wasn't their first rodeo and they are not as dumb as americans. Clearly this shit really hit the fan when a magician named okay. I didn't look this up. But i'm pretty sure it's pronounced maskell lean. I like it kate. John mescaline the magician peeked through their cabinet curtain and saw that the ropes they were supposed to be secured with were loose. And i wrote wasn't fact. Playing the instruments himself. These guys after this exposure was made mescaline decided to copy the act addition after all like he wasn't even doing it because he was pissed he was literally just like i need to know. How these fuckers do this because i also want to tour and play music and get laid. Yes so he had a cabinet of his own built and soon there. Many copycats touring europe okay with numerous exposures of fraud and multiple copycats of the show. The davenport brothers basically fessed up that they were faking the acts and had in fact no help from spirits although the verdict is somewhat still out on whether the brothers actually believed in the spiritualism movement there was some evidence that ira davenport bihar one might have been a practicing. Spiritualist okay. Somebody in the nineties did a bunch of research looking over old letters and all of this stuff so he. That's where i'm getting information from..

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"davenport brothers" Discussed on Happy Hour Gets Weird

Happy Hour Gets Weird

03:10 min | 2 months ago

"davenport brothers" Discussed on Happy Hour Gets Weird

"Facing each other facing in towards the middle and in the middle section there was a bunch of instruments and instrument or had a small window at the top with a black curtain and the entire cabinet was elevated from the floor by three would install horses so basically it was like one brother on one side one brother on the other side instruments in the middle. Okay the brothers would be tied up by volunteers from the audience. Hands feet probably their ankles commonly called the whole of the leg back in those days. Everybody knows that common knowledge. We're taught that and third grade history. You know everybody knows that. Basically the brothers were restrained then. The doors to the cabinet were closed or the curtain or whatever was closed and after a moment reopened to show. The brothers were now freed from their restraints. What and the doors shut again. Only tree open again. Revealing the brothers were again tied up happening. Finally you guessed it. The doors were shut. Once more and instruments would start clanging. They had horns tambourines violin. Guitar all this shit was happening in the cabinet right then and then they started playing billy joel. We didn't start the fire. We'd oh i don't want to me sometimes. There would be banging on the cabinet. Sometimes people would hear banging all around the room. It was quite a fucking show. Yeah to finish it all a bare arm with sometimes reach from that little curtain in the center cabinet and ring dinner bell. What i don't know why sometimes a volunteer would also be in the cabinet with the brothers. Oh my goodness that doesn't seem like a good situation. No i imagine that would be less fun than the assu. Well volunteered in lestat. Volunteer was me. You would love it. Yeah it'd be like tie me up brother s. heard of sex magic so this is one version of the illusion box. Another version just said that the brothers were basically tied up the doors were shut and music played and then they would open the doors and the brothers were still tied up and everybody was like whoa what happened. I think that it was kind of their show varied You know some days. You really wanna go bigger. Go home and some days. You're hung over and just want to sit in a dark cabinet. Yeah you know we've all been there. Yeah one hundred percent. It was a pretty exciting show either way. It sounds exciting. Sounds exciting and pretty fucking bizarre. After the cabinet seen the davenport brothers held another seance where they would be tied up an instruments would again play around the room. Sort of more of a typical seance situation room as opposed to a cabinet but the brothers just loved being tied up. I clearly and this..

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"davenport brothers" Discussed on Happy Hour Gets Weird

Happy Hour Gets Weird

04:30 min | 2 months ago

"davenport brothers" Discussed on Happy Hour Gets Weird

"Okay. This is clearly. The jig was up the boys left tail on and went home and they still conducted say on circles back around buffalo I mean this was the late eighteen hundreds so it's not like this was all over twitter. Yeah exactly they weren't canceled on the internet yeah. I don't think anybody even knew what had happened at that other say on through you know they were totally out ended. Yeah and it's and that's also funny to me because it's like that news didn't travel but i feel like the whole spirit the spiritualism movement as a whole did travel and spread so quickly. I totally agree with you. I the only thing i could think is because it was so fantastic that it just you know how like it just weird news like that travels fast and i think maybe people it travels so quickly because people you know wanted to be the messenger of something so awesome dieting. Yeah yeah and say awesome not like a kid from the nineties like awesome. I say awesome filled. Wa- inspire inspiring. Yes not totally nar nar. Yeah as the kids say every day like today dope so the boys didn't stop their work they just pivoted okay. New location kind new show and i just want to point out here that this would not be the only time the davenport brothers were exposed but nobody likes a quarter or the show must go on or some shit at. It's show business that show business baby. This clear failure in musical medium ship led them to develop a spirit cabinet or box solution. Okay which also involved musical instruments and don't get too excited here. Cassie but rope. I love it babes. i love it. These poor brother's their story just turned so kinky. But i don't we sometimes i feel like okay so i did sex magic. You did the budding bedia sem community like a little. Bit of incestuous will things going on the incest trope. Not no no well we just did it. We just we turned it we. We've dirty that image but my question is clearly. They were good musicians. They played instruments. Well why didn't they just traditional musicians like why wouldn't son's yeah like. Why like kings of leon kings of buffalo. like why didn't they just. Maybe these are kings of leon and you know that that is a good question. I think that whatever was going on at the time they would have spun that uh-huh and done something with it. Yes so if it was like you know pumpkin growing or you know riding horseback on your hands. I don't know they would have been like we play our violin and it makes the puck and grow bigger. I don't think those are very good examples very obvious that anybody would have thought of very good. I try the queen of examples. The davenport spirit cabinet was about six feet wide six feet high and two and a half feet deep. A we'll post a picture on our instagram. Or you can. if you're listening look it up. there's some Little drawings of it. It's pretty cool. I think there's a one. I found one photo and a drawing is pretty cool so the cabinet was split into three sections with three doors. The left and right segments had a little.

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"davenport brothers" Discussed on And That's Why We Drink

And That's Why We Drink

05:34 min | 3 months ago

"davenport brothers" Discussed on And That's Why We Drink

"It wasn't that simple because rose also told everyone that the inca gods will be coming down to earth soon and any non believers would be punished eternally punished. I should add so like if you're not gonna be on board like you're fucked. Basically is what they're saying right doesn't leave much room. These these poor folks who are just trying to mind their own business. Yeah feels a lot like a lot of god fearing people today like you better pursue else or else eternal punishment which everyone else is doing it would burn in hell forever exactly so to fully convinced the audience. What they were saying was true. They used these like obviously like big rhetoric and you know they use like manipulative language but they also use sleight of hand tricks. I was literally going to say i was like. Was there like a magic show magic show and because i was thinking not that religion was involved but the davenport brothers and the fox sisters out they like would travel around and like really convince people the second you said like to prove or to shell i was like. Oh there's a visual here and it's for sure magic one hundred percent and again like these people have been isolated from any sort of other resources so even though it's the sixties and there's like tv and you know phones like they don't have access to that so they don't necessarily understand that this is like just honestly what genius tool though to try to convince somebody leave things like are not as they seem you know exactly so snake oil settlers. But the of like. They're the rods. I don't know the vernacular for that but Yeah it worked. Let's just put it that way. So the villagers were like holy shit. I guess we gotta do what they say. And they handed over food money resources they treated the brothers like kings in order to get the treasure from the lincoln gods. That was promised to them. And when morales started to dip and skeptics were like i don't know this is a little fishy. The brothers made time to lead incan rituals for the to partaken. And now we remember the rituals that i listed earlier of like how how far they could go so well. The rituals just included like cannabis animal sacrifices to the gods like they tried to make this look like real and powerful as they could and it got to the point where the villagers had handed over everything they had everything they have any resources left and by this point the brothers were on such power trip that even though they were out of offerings they were like well. We can't leave now. We own these people right right right. Yeah we've gotten far enough where like we can get whatever we want. We've accidentally created ourselves kingdom like we demanded that these people worship us and like they do now so we can't like it was too easy which is really sad it is and when they leave elsewhere what they gonna start over like no there. Yeah why wouldn't you just state your established kingdom where you're kidding exactly. So what they did. This is just work. It's really fucked. They began demanding. More and more..

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"davenport brothers" Discussed on BSP: Believer Skeptic Podcast

BSP: Believer Skeptic Podcast

06:03 min | 1 year ago

"davenport brothers" Discussed on BSP: Believer Skeptic Podcast

"Yeah I don't know that it's hard to say like. The twentieth. Better. I mean they still should've done some investigating they were definitely roaring. Okay. Well, that's an all right. Well might be a little more uplifting I'm so it'll be good to like finish it off. That's crazy though I can't believe that. Then his fucking belt buckle but yet oh, it's not him. I mean you would think though okay say you're a freshman in you're trying to hide a body. You would think that they would remove the belt buckle or hide it. Who knows so okay, that's Pretty much not totally been solved was wild. I'm going to be talking to you. The Ghost Club okay yeah okay. So here are you writing so when it comes to S- belief in outright disbelief. Oh it says. This is belief in our disbelief or not the only options. were. Way. What or at least they weren't in nineteenth century Britain the Victorian didn't stick to simple arguments about the existence of ghosts. They also argued about how when, and why they might exist spiritualists attack spiritualists over whether the supernatural should be classed as natural the commission like that conversation like this shouldn't even this is so fact that this is actually not even be considered supernatural anymore they don't have any proof with concrete. And there's something that I mentioned a little bit in here about spiritualism being a movement. Huge Movement I didn't know what it was and I had to I. Don't say I make fun of myself. About it so scientists discovered whether psychological or physiological factors were play inventors, politicians, journalists joined in two. So this was a really popular pastime talking about the supernatural. Practitioners actually needed places to meet outside their existing societies and organisations were established to debate the boundaries of the immaterial and one of those committees was called the Ghost Club. Right. So the Ghost Club is a paranormal investigation and research organization founded in London in Eighteen, sixty two, it is believed to be the oldest such organization in the world. So it's like still in existence since eighteen, sixty two, it is primarily investigated ghosts and huntings. Now, the earliest days of the club or not super recorded but we do know that it was small populated by mail intellectuals, of course, because it's back then and it in one of its primary purposes was to like best best game but also to expose fraud. So that's that's interesting. So it's not just to say, yes, this is real and that's convince everyone it was. Let's prove that this is real by exposing fraudulent claims a ghost club is dried to expose fraud. I think it's a thing where they want proof like I could see being a part of like going to find proof, and so you go to examine well, Charles Dickens is set to be a founding member. I was like Oh. Wow. The first in a procession of writers including William Butler Yeats. Who joined its ranks? So Dickens embodied some of the contradictory attitudes of his era and of the original goes club as well. Now, it said it's difficult from a modern perspective to reconcile dickens the exposure of fraud whenever he was a Dabbler in mesmerized him and they said that he actually involved putting people into trances so as to influence the magnetic forces that. Allied them like it's like, Dickens, was kind of a part of some of this weird stuff that I had no idea. Yeah. I just thought he was a an author and that was it. No, you don't think about what they do besides writing he boasted in letters of his magnetic powers and attempted to use them to cure a friend of it. So it's like The whole magnetism kind of I wouldn't call it a movement but that was like something they used to like cure people I had no idea I guess you see magnets like even now there's a member at the the space the. U. F., O. Convention there was damn. But that magazines or some shit over this other weird. Bother US every time we walk he would bug the crap out of us. Well, Dickens of course was also famous for ghost stories. So it's like wait. So he's kind of a skeptic, but he's writing all this stuff, but it turns out that he was always trying to find ordinary reasons for extraordinary happenings. So did they actually expose anything? Well for that we're going to talk about their very first case that they worked on and it was the case of the Davenport brothers. Nancy drew in the Davenport brothers. So the Democrat brothers were American magicians in the late. Nineteenth. Century. They presented illusions that they and others claim to be supernatural. They began in eighteen fifty four less than a decade after spiritualism at taken off in America and I didn't know spiritualism was that it's a religious movement based on the belief of spirits so they believe in spirits. Lidge it's kind of. Says a religious movement. New Age. Mrs. That's kind of what spiritual and it's really day believing in ghosts and wanting that to happen. But they also believe in like medium shipping all that stuff goes through all that all exactly all that. So you could see why like this company of magician kind of become popular because they can take advantage of it even if it's real or not, you know what I mean so. They actually had an assistant that worked with them and he actually was a believer and all this happened. He actually thought that they were really doing their their thing that they thought. They thought that they were possessed by spiritual entities. So the Davenport's most famous effect was called the box illusion and what they did is they were tied inside of a box which contained musical instruments. So and I saw a picture of this and it's like you get bored you just start playing in his yet you just started playing skin flute. So there's a left cabinet and a right cabinet, and then in the middle are just instruments like hanging from and you can see those but they would tie themselves up..

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"davenport brothers" Discussed on The Past Lives Podcast

The Past Lives Podcast

06:44 min | 1 year ago

"davenport brothers" Discussed on The Past Lives Podcast

"Really amazing things when you're at these sittings. Is there anything that really stands out for you? Of probably the most weller to? The first most amazing thing announced today. It was with Scott. Milligan on at other findlay college. He was doing the physical. Stay on on your end. He He'd brings through something called direct voice. Where he brings to the voice of the deceased person, so you hear the person's voice. It's not just him saying they're saying this actually hearing their voice. And he threw the the voice of my deceased father and I tell you I have no words to express how that felt. It was just amazing. And he did bring me some words of wisdom. A new that, wouldn't you? Wouldn't know what that sounds like to try and fake. No they wouldn't especially since my father had a trachea injury, and so his voice was very weak and Wasn't strong, and that's how the voice came through a came through with the the voice problem that eight had when he was alive. What sorts of other things to physically happened when one of these sittings is going? On they do that sometimes they bring gifts for people at ports are they're called on? Different types of gifts, but I think mostly I. Think when you get the direct voice. That's from your loved one. That's pretty powerful, pretty powerful. Sometimes it's just a direct voice of spirit guide I mean. Scott brings through Judy garland singing. To think of. Some other memorable against the other, the other memorable thing for me. Was Gary Manion and I know his controversial figure, but Gary Manion US saw him in Hebrew through spectral arms and I I'd never seen that before. Is something I'd read about with the Davenport brothers, but he actually did it and I touched the arm and. I touched a hand in the hand, caressed my hand lot from a loved one, and I knew who it was, and then when it was done, my hand was covered with ECTOPLASMS. and. I went back to my friend who sitting next united feel my hands, so he could feel the ECTOPLASMS. His well that was covering. That was pretty interesting. But probably the other remarkable, all physical medium ship I had was with Jose Madrid trance painter. And he was doing he was. It was the Gordon Higginson event. As well, he was coming. I wanted to get one of his paintings so I was like making plans scheming to get one of his pages nested. Okay, what will I do and then I said okay, we'll. If he does a portrait, I'll say it's my grandma during. No, no, no, you can't do that. That's totally unethical. So I said okay. I won't do that so I sat down in in the our presentation, and I'm looking at the different paintings in them. Thinking about which I want to bid on, and then finally in very less painting. Jose. Does this portrait in the style of when Warsaw and He did the face then he rubbed it out different face and when he held it up I, said Oh my God. That's my grandmother and he had actually painted a picture that looked like my grandmother is the girl. And do you have? Oh Yeah Oh absolutely. Absolutely. And so whiz. Ports the. Physical objects that appear during science, and do we know where they come from? Is it like being picked up another? The country and then dropped him. That's right. It's like they're coming from one place to another, but it's it's called materialization dematerialization materialization, so it's spirit will take an object Haykal the molecules apart. And then send it someplace else and put it back together. So somebody somewhere else in the world is suddenly looking for something in the can't find it. That happens a lot to. That happens a lot, too. Yeah, they've. They've got a necklace that they've taken from me now that I'm waiting for them to bring back. But dislike the story. I don't know if the stories that people say Oh, I have lost this pair of earrings and they'll lose the pair of earrings on a trip in the Caribbean and then. Two years later later. The same airings will show up in their bedroom. You know in the states, so it's. That's like an airport when that happens, but eh ports. Joan just have to happen in. Through I've had airports appear in daylight. and. So they're one of the phenomena, that's what I call an everyday phenomena. So there are lots of things in physical that are physical that we just don't even notice. In Our daily lives because we don't think that they're possible. You mentioned briefly in the book the Abraham Lincoln Silence What happened this? the Lincoln seance now. That's really interesting on Abraham Lincoln laws a spiritualist although he publicly didn't stay that he Go to. We have a number of spirituous camps in the United States and there was one that he used to go to in visit, and he had a many different mediums. Come to the White House in the Davenport notebooks. They made a mentioned that they visited Woodley in. Had the White House although I don't think they did a stance. The story of the sounds is that there was a young woman. From Connecticut area that her brother was in the army, and he was very ill, so she went down to Washington, DC to try to help to get him out of the army, so she could take it home, and he'll. and. So, she did a stay on a a friend. Lincoln's House and Mrs Lincoln was there and saw her instead. You must come to the white. House so Mrs. Lincoln brought her shoe.

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"davenport brothers" Discussed on The Past Lives Podcast

The Past Lives Podcast

09:24 min | 1 year ago

"davenport brothers" Discussed on The Past Lives Podcast

"Dan ackroyd is like a fifth generation spiritualist. He comes from a family of spiritualists in Canada and in the past, his family was very very involved with medium ship and developing different types of. Devices for spiritualism so the idea of plaza he definitely got from. Spiritualism however when I analyzed the Phil. He kind of sees it as gooey stuff that exudes out, but there's no medium there. So? It's not actually accurate. Because if it's produced by the medium, is it I know? Is it something that's produced like saliva, and with breasts, or is an entirely different substance. Well I think the. The body chemistry of the medium. and. We're trying to understand. How people become physical mediums and there has been one observation that many of these people have started in their teenage years doing it to develop it. However, no I know of one gentleman who started very late in life I think it was in his sixties when he started producing physical medium ship so Yeah I mean it comes from the mediums body chemistry of some some kind in it's a combination of the spirit chemistry with body chemistry of the medium that creates the substance it does look like. It comes different forms I mean it can be like a fob. On you know, it can be missed. For example, people have taken pictures photographs of me in the Trans State and my face is blank. You can't see a face it all. Use your hair. We can't see my face and that's because ectoplasms covering it. or it can be a physical kind of a little cut. It looks like a mucus kind of substance. That comes out of the medium, and when you see the old fashioned pictures, you'll see the big white. Of stuff that's coming out of the mediums body, and that's the ECTOPLASMS. And then ectoplasms Ken take its own form in in the most advanced stages of physical medium ship, the Extra Plaza will come out of the medium and take the form or shape of a deceased relative. And you mentioned the trumpet. Soliah other trumpets will step purpose. Well you know I really believe the again. This all started in the eighteen hundreds, and at that time it was a very different world for one. We live in today so I do believe that they needed to see things that that scene physical movement in presence was very important to them so having spirit move objects do ports. Was a thing at the time, and so the trumpets moving what she was happens. Is that from the medium there with extra plastic rods, so it's like rods of energy that come out of the physical medium, and these rods will pick up the trumpets and move them around the room and the way you know that it's real trumpet. Movement is if the trumpet light goes up ceiling down around in near people an all around, so it's it's well out of the rich of the medium. And it's going all over the room. So why I wanted to ask you about was. This thing where don't know if it's all physical mediums, but it's Kinda like they sit in a chair, and that arms and legs are tied to the chair. Is that so that they're kind of saying. It can't be me. That's doing all this because I'm I'm tied down and also. I hear a lot of physical mediums. Sittings have to be in the darkness. Is that right? Well. I had to say you've got to two questions. They're tying. Let's do that one I. The tony done yes is is strictly to demonstrate that the medium is not moving out of the chair, moving around the room, and that is very important in what we call a dark sand seance where it's all blacked out. And so it sounds where things are all blackout it. The chances of of fraud manipulation are much greater. Than a sounds that has some light in edge. But it reason for the darkness is to build up the echo plasma because the extra plasma off for some people is sensitive, is pretty light sensitive, so it can't build up as much in daylight. However, there have been a number of mediums physical mediums that have been able to work in the daylight. So on there is a which they say, arguments or or difference in physical medium ship as to whether the room, the absolute lack or not. Myself I will not work in a totally black room. Because that eliminates all issues of fraud. You know, but other people now have to work in lack and they have to make that. Completely seal and that there's no light light coming in any way at all. But again! They're saying that that's the reason because they need the darkness to build up the ECTOPLASMS. It's a shame really, isn't it? The you have to worry. The people think it's a fraud in a way, you be nice if you could just do it, and they'd be accepting a not always thinking, was it? Hoax is a trick. Well I just have to say this to you because I've just done a lot of research on the Davenport brothers, and they were very controversial as to whether they were real or not, and there is a term, called a mixed medium ship, which is the if you're going to be doing a theatrical performance night after night after night. You're probably GONNA introduce some tricks into it because. Physical, seances can't guarantee resolves I mean you can go to a physical sand and nothing can happen. And if you're performing, that's not acceptable, so I can see how they they kind of enhance their medium ship with a little bit of trick trickery here and there with us. Sit in a room mediums. And I call that and other people who call that mixed medium ship. So the book is so interesting, this so much information in there I really enjoyed reading it. And one thing stood out to me. Was the medium Helen Duncan I and the wolf secrets that came through and she got prosecuted didn't share. Yes because what happened, and this was pretty amazing. Helen Duncan was a true meek materialization medium. What that means is that through her echo plasma, a total figure would come up and appear, and what happened was the during one of her seances. The son of one of the women in the room came up in in the materialization, and you could see the name of his ship on his hat. Who is that detail? And they knew that the sink strip had sunk because he was dead. So Then they called the war office and said you know what happened to the seeking of the ship in there. They're like we don't have any record of this ship sinking. And then it became a situation where you're were office didn't want the public to now that certain ships had been or haven't been solved. So they thought that Helen Duncan was A. Threat to security. And, so they actually pumped up different legal charges to get her put in jail. Pretty much until the war was over so that she could leak confidential information. And it's interesting that she was. This is in England, isn't it? And she was prosecuted under Section Four of the witchcraft act of seventeen thirty five. I'm trying. I think they did because usually what they did in England was usually prosecuted people under the Vagrancy Act. They would use the vagrancy act. Do it the reason why they turned to the witchcraft act was because the witchcraft keeper in jail longer than the vagrancy act. And then She likes to die, didn't she? Nineteen fifty six Could you describe how that came about?.

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