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How to Live Your Life After Great Loss  Amanda Kloots with Dave Asprey : 837

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How to Live Your Life After Great Loss Amanda Kloots with Dave Asprey : 837

"Radio station high performance. You're listening to bullock radio with dave asprey. Today is going to be a show that talks about the human side of grief and loss and love and community encourage. And these are things that you might often say. Well wait. what does that have to do with. Biohacking are human performance and these have to do with the parts of being that we all go through in our lives and their presser. We don't talk about because they're uncomfortable and we're wired in our cells to avoid things that are uncomfortable however if you do think about them it gives you an enormous opportunity for growth enormous opportunity to be a better human being to be of better service to others and when inspired my interview today was an interview that maria shriver did with amend excludes amanda goes the talk a really popular. Cbs daytime talkshow. She's a former broadway dancer. Radio city rockette in creator of the global fitness brand aka fitness. She met her husband. Nick cordeiro who's a tony award nominated broadway star and musician. When she was performing in bullets over broadway in her memoir live your life. Amanda writes about their life together and their families experience with kobe in the early days of the pandemic marine decided to interview. amanda clues. About what happened. When she lost her husband. Nick cordeiro to cove. It and amanda wrote a book about this to tell her story and she built a huge movement around building community to support her as she was going through what she went through so i thought. Let's talk with amanda today. And let's see what she has to teach us about the stories. She tells in her book and also just to learn what what really happened here. So amanda thank you for taking the time to be with us on the show today. Thank you so much for having me day. That's nice to be here. Some people listening might not know what happened with nick. But nick got kovic. 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And i just thought he was exhausted with a little slight depression because he had lost his job like so many other americans so there just weren't the common symptoms that you would expect so just a little tired right. Yeah he was just tired he would. He was just not able to kinda keep his eyes open And then you know one thing led to another and the respiratory issues started becoming apparent and when those got bad then that's when we finally took him to the emergency room and he was admitted into the hospital cedars-sinai and he was in the hospital for about three months ended up in a coma and eventually had a leg amputated and pastor. Yeah yes july. Fifth is almost a year ago. And i i want to ask you about your grieving process. But i also recognize that. You may still be doing it. So i'll i'll ask us. Some questions are meant to help others. Who may be going through things like that. But if you don't answer something just don't k- was reading the book part of your group process. Well i didn't know it at the time but retrospectively absolutely At the time. I started writing for two reasons. Once i had a one of the reasons was i had deadline. I had to start and to. I was I had all this information in my head. So many numbers and machines and names and hospital rooms and dates and times. And i wanted to start writing that stuff down. There were things i did not wanna forget because you know as we all do your life goes on and a new. Can't remember certain things you know. You're like oh yeah we not what. Oh yeah that was that no didn't happen like that. It was this. And i am and and i didn't want that to be the case with this story. I have a little boy. I wanted to make sure that. I had everything documented the way it happened so that one day he knew this. You know who knew this story. That i could tell him the story So it was. It was a couple of different reasons why started writing away. There's so much that that you share in the book. And i i remember watching as you were openly sharing and i wanted to talk in a minute about why you decided to show the way you did but you know when you're you're talking with a dancer and you get to the point of making a decision to amputate a leg like that like my heart went out to you because it felt like such a such a big thing To make that decision and support did you have to make that decision to me. That was one of the more painful things. I'd seen on on social media in a long time. Yeah i mean it was absolutely you know one of nick's greatest things that he was six foot five when he walked into a room. You couldn't help but notice him his stature. His know meaner is what got him. Jobs as an actor We use our bodies and unfortunately as an actor you know vanity becomes in a very important. Were very concerned about what we look like. And what our body looks like and how we move in an walk especially so I knew that this decision was a rough one. And nick would have a really hard time accepting it as we all would but there really was no choice The infection in his leg the blood clot in his leg was taking over his body and so much of his body was already compromise that if his leg was drawing so much attention it was taking off the attention of the other parts of his body that really needed to heal like his lungs like his heart like his kidneys and so it wasn't really an option it was. We either amputate his leg so that the body can focus on the things that needs to focus on or it's going to take over his body. There are many people who are facing tough decisions medical decisions a who were in a situation like yours who don't share and the fact that you're willing to share public your thought process and what you went through. It's incredibly beneficial. You're sharing it. And that's what i think you inoffensive. I always who were how well i. I'm a very spiritual person. I have a very strong faith in It's always been a part of my life. And that's where i go when i need strength when i need support. That is exactly where i go You know it was. It was the situation for me that you know it was a leg. Yes and it's terrifying and horrible but you can get an amazing prosthetic. I ended up talking to different amputees as well which was a huge support system to me you know. They confirmed listen. This is a hard road. This isn't something that you wish for. But you become a whole different person in a beautiful new way in the prosthetics. These days are incredible. And so those two things you know my faith and belief in god helped me absolutely emotionally that the support of talking to other amputees and making sure that you know they just they just gave me so much confidence that nick is going to be okay and and he'll have a new life. It'll be a different life but it'll be a new life. Did you go through a period of being angry. God when things didn't go the way you wanted. Oh yeah every day. I would get mad at god. I mean that's just you know. I've been listen. I grew up never That was not something to be ashamed of it. We i was always taught to question god in to look for those answers And of course you're going to get angry guide and be like you know. Why is this happening. Wise and my husband receiving the miracle. I'm asking for why wide things keep going south. Absolutely that's just being a human being times you deal with it are you. Are you still going through that. At one of the days that i was kind of really upset and and yelling about it and i said to my dad you know why. Isn't he listening to my prayers. I have the whole world praying for him And i'm asking for a miracle. It's not being granted and my dad looked at me and he said every day. You're miracles being answered. Nick still here. He's still alive and you get to go see him every single day. Your miracles being answered every day. And i was like oh dad like okay. Thanks dad And then you know my sister. Tracy she said to me. Amanda sometimes are the prayers that we pray for Are answered but in a way that you don't expect them to be you know the the answer of the prayer might not be the answer. You think it should be but it does get answered and so that was also another beautiful way of looking at it and Those two things kind of really helped me get back to a good relationship so when what your father was saying there was was very much. You know things happen but we don't always know why and So i feel you there you know we. We wanted to be one way and it doesn't always go that way but it does something maybe that we didn't know at the time and you've had a year to sit with it and i think it from going through your book. There's some catharsis from it and you talk about. How trauma transforms you and as a young mom. I'm the certainly a major trauma at this point one year later. How would you say the trump was transformed you. Even since he wrote the book did do that was good to do that was bad. Yeah i mean you know when you go through something like this and you see somebody you know just deteriorating and fighting for his life and you see how quickly life can be taken away from you If i should just makes like every dumb argument go out the window. It makes you like anytime you want to complain about. Oh my back hurts. Or i'm tired. Just go out the window You've become extremely grateful for what you do. Have in life for the people that you have in life for the time you have with those people. I don't leave the house without landing biggest kiss on my son just because you just never know and saying i love you you know. Those are the things that i feel like. This whole experience has just I feel like. I'm more calm person i i. I don't know. I mean you live in new york city for nineteen years that energy that that momentum in your life you know and then after going through this quickly after living in moving to california now living here i feel like i have like a slower pace in appreciation for life. I'm just a little bit more Call on a day to day basis. Only a new yorker could say that. I moved to la to calm down. Yeah i guess so. But you know i think. La definitely is a calmer vibe the new york city for sure you move there and you didn't have a great support network i mean there's there's always industry people in some people you know because there's a lot of commuting between the two but if you're a native new york or these near native you're from ohio but you know twenty years makes you about as native it gets then of course as a parent Anyone who has young kids understands that your kids very quickly. Make a lot of your social network. And there's a lot of parental sports. But you just had moved. So how did you go about establishing support network in la in the middle of all of this or is that why you went to social media but there there's always the social side but then there's like what you know who shows up with casserole at your house and stuff like that during a pandemic doing one of the really important parts of biohacking something. That's made a big difference for me personally. Is light therapy. A company called juve pioneered red light therapy and they did a great job of isolating red and near infrared light at high powers and then they made the devices accessible and affordable for us to use in home. I find that my energy my fitness. My sleep are always better. When i use red light and infrared light therapy and i love juve. That's j. o. V. and i'm really excited because they just came out with the next generation of devices that you should know about their sleeker about twenty percent lighter and they have the same power you can now stand up to three times further away and still get the recommended dose of red light and you can mount them just about anywhere you can think of. And there's an ambient mode that gives com low intensity of light at night only available for a limited time. Juve won tokyo with an exclusive discount. For your first order with some exclusions so go to juve j. o. v. dot com slash. Dave and use code dave to get your discount. Some exclusions apply. Well we had a couple of really good friends here in la when we moved which was which was our immediate support system And then you know. I don't i don't know if you've ever been through. You know something really tough in your life. If you've been through trauma you you gain a whole new group of of trauma. Friends that Either you sort of new. But they step up right to that plate or you didn't know and all of sudden you are really close and best friends or somebody two months ago. You didn't even know. And that happened with me when i went through my divorce. And then it happened with me again With nick and yeah. I mean it was just like those my my core group that i knew i had. And then that expanded to my community in laurel canyon and then it even more so expanded into the rock of ages. Family that You know nick. Of course new from doing the show rock of ages for years. But i didn't know because that was not anything that i had ever done so they really came to. My aid became very close to me. And then yeah that virtual instagram army that i created Was a whole nother. Lifeline of support Yeah it was. It was crazy music. Do for you Music as music has always been a part of my life. I mean i went to a magnet school. I was enquirer than musicals and performing on broadway. You know music music music music music and all sorts of music then teaching fitnesses. You know you're listening to music all the time and then marrying nick who's music guy writes. Music loves music. Knew more about music than anyone. I knew So music is always just been you know a fuel for my fire. I would say but for me. It's like a release. You know music. I it can. It can help you kind of calm down. it can get you fired up. It can put you at peace. It can release the stress and anxiety. I mean it's just. I think i i don't know if i could live without music. What was your favorite song before. Nick went to the hospital. Oh gosh like my all time. Favorite song i mean. I have a couple. But dreams by the cranberries is one of my all time favorite songs. It's still is yeah. I have a couple of new added favorites for sure that but you know these. The new added favorites. Kind of always will re mind me of this experience. Which isn't a bad thing necessarily but Yeah i mean you know. Music does that too. You can put on a song and you're like oh my god. I'm transported right back to nineteen. You know and i know exactly what i was doing where what where i was the clothes i was wearing and i just broke up with that person and i played this song everyday for you know. That's i feel. That's what school about music. So the upgrade collective is all saying. Hey will you sing a little bit of in. oh the cranberries. Oh i mean. I don't know if i know the exact words because you know we all create our own lyrics that What is it. Oh is change in burri day. Every puffs away way then. I don't know. I recognize that lurks right. And there are so many people around the world and around the country who have a lost a parent and you have young kids. It's happened some of our family friends as well. And how do you go about having that conversation. I mean it's a still very early age but you know do you. Do you tell stories. you know up in heaven. How do you communicate this in a way that that's age appropriate and also ties in with your faith and just all the things that happened. I mean i haven't had to have any conversations like you know that deep yet. But i just about neck all the time i say dada all the time you know or singing a song you know. I add data in there or You know there's pictures of neck all the all over the house. And i'm always da da da da and he points and You know we kiss next picture. Good night every night. Good night and we say love you and I don't know. I just include him a lot I don't know if i'm doing the right thing or not. I haven't talked to anybody about how to you know. Help elvis through this transition other than other widows who tell me you know as they get older You know certain things that might happen. That have happened to them. But i think right now. I'm just trying to keep his name alive in our home alive in our family and you know the word data as like a wonderful happy thing. That is That is so profound to just have the energy there right for a little one like that is. It's really important to good good job from my perspective. Not that i'm an expert. Yeah you know. I don't know when he goes to sleep. I tell him that. Data's going to visit him in his drains than i ask him all the time if he if he sees data because i do believe that little kids haven't developed that part of their brain yet that thinks things aren't believable so i i don't know i just i think knicks around all the time and i do think elvis can see him when he comes around so it gets pretty metaphysical pretty quickly there But there's lots and lots of instances of kids under five experiencing ancestors and an all in ways that are kind of ridiculous you can say. I don't think that should be possible. But gee there sure are a lot of common accounts that way. I've even seen some of that. You know in In my family especially when kids are very young. I'm so any of the energetic master. People who deal with that kind of stuff happens. Julie ryan is a friend who's written a book about what happens when people died who sees that stuff and I mean she absolutely. Of course it happens all the time right. So i i'm going to say good for you being opened and for teaching it because that's That's that's a beautiful thing that is a value To a it's really good. Thank you answer right in the middle of all this. You decided you were gonna start a t shirt company now. My first company. When i was nineteen. I think it was a teacher company So it's it's a funny business. That business always be near and dear to my heart What made you decide to go inside. A t shirt company. What was the inspiration. An-and i my little sister. We've always brainstorm businesses in wanting to go into business together. It's just been something we always do when we were together. We should do this boy if we could only do that. That should be our next business. And of course you know life takes over and you. You know you don't do them. An anna lives in paris. And i live here so you know it was not when we first thought of this idea. After seeing nick in rock of ages you know we kind of worked on it and then everything kind of fell to pieces. Then she moved out to la. To live with me and helped me with elvis. While nick sick and you know we spent a lot of time together in the house at during cove it with through you know nothing to do but cultivate ideas and so we were like. This is what we should do and on top of that you know. We were seeing on a daily basis that kindness of human beings the the generosity and the help that we were getting and how just thinking of positive things were were changing our lives but also helping other people and so we thought this is the perfect time to launch. Hurry for it celebrates the positive things that we love in life. The things that make us smile. Why not put it on a t shirt and then we launched it with You know hooray for healthy. Rose and hooray for life. And we decided you know once a month will pick a charity and will donate half the proceeds to charity and In efforts to give back to everything that was coming our way. I think that's such a cool way to do it. Because you're donating until 'cause that supports and it's just such a positive thing so i I love it. Just hurry for in guys if you're interested in supporting a good cause and having a cool physical t. Shirt you can. What was it. hurry is it. Herrera's for dot com or is it be limited under be unlimited and then you search for hooray for or my our instagram at jerez dot four is the easiest way probably to find that link okay at harare dot for so hurry for doug's for whatever and you can get whatever you want right. We we always each month. Put out a design and some most most wants to designs and And there's such a limited limited design. I wanted to get them while. They're hats want hurry for butter. If you do that and also ordering three of those. I would join you in a hurry for others. Maybe for coffee. you can't lose with coffee. Coffee was one of our designs for a while. It was a big seller like that. You did that like that. You're supporting a nonprofit with it. Thank you in your book. You talk about how you if you're quoting you hit my limit with doctors. Nurses other hospitals to african ame like i was fragile and crazy and unrealistic. What was happening. That caused them to look that way you. I love talking about technology that i actually use. That works in something you may not know about is called re hit which is a new type of high intensity interval training that shortens the traditional high intensity workout with fewer and shorter sprints but the spreads are more intense than you're used to. I usually kind of technology called carol. It's an ai. 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Which in writing the book it helps helps you to look at retrospectively in the heat of the moment You know again we have to remember. Kovin was awhile west. this time. Nobody knew what to do how it worked by. It was some times affecting somebody so hard like nick and then not affecting anyone at all And so a lot of times they would say to me. You know we're out of ideas or it's it's his all medically that we can do right now or You know we can't really ford any risks. But then at the same time they would say we're running out of time So it was this constant. Icu dance and battle. which now i know. He's just you know. A part of being an icu. That long especially So you know. I would come to the idea. I would come to the table with a lot of ideas every day. And you know they would be crazy. Sometimes like people would say put olive oil and rosemary and his feeding tube. I trust me at works. You know and there were lots of times. Where i was just like okay. I have nothing to lose here. So i'm going to shout out all of these ideas and yeah a lot of times. They would look at me. Like i was crazy which i'm sure i was at some points. You know i'm. I'm getting my information from google searches and people from around the world and they are medically trained doctors. That know exactly what they're talking about. So it was that balance and you know i was the other thing was it was just hard. You know when you are. I i do consider myself a strong person. I'm a fighter. Especially when i'm going through trauma i go kind of in fighter pilot mode and it was really hard to be looked at like you know a sad puppy. It's it's it's something that happens with grief to you know people come up to you giving the giving you their best actor in a drama series for grief you know performance and you're like i'm not weeping right now i will weep. I promise you. I have weeped but right now. You see me in your dancing. You see me in here. Moving knicks arms. You see me in your choosing positively choosing strength choosing life. Don't treat me like. I'm the exact opposite so that was also just kind of like the hard battle severe. The issue is primarily. Just you didn't want people to feel pity for you because you are too strong. I think in general. I'm just a person that doesn't i don't want to feel. I don't want you to feel pity for me I think that's my probably general. My life know the difference between compassion and pity I think it's a tone a tone in someone's voice for me at least or yeah it would be a tone is a tone of voice and did you feel like the the hospital staff that that you're writing about. Was it compassion. You're interpreting his pity or was it. Actually pity i don't know i mean maybe it was a bit of both or you know it's hard to say because now i'm kind of commenting on someone's personality which is tough. I probably needed to speak up for myself and say listen. You know please you win. You come at me with that tone. It makes me feel like you're pitying me and cleese. Don't pity me right now. i need you to be. I need you to do this instead if we're gonna work together here and that's that's on me. I should have said that. You know that's retrospectively looking back. In the heat of the moment you can't even focus you know my god. That's the kind of really precious advice. They are chang right now right because there are other people who go through longer hospital experiences and just hearing you say that i promise you that you just did some good just by sharing that low. Thank you learn a lot. After the after the fact in course writing this story down reading the story allowed you learn even more. Live your life at your bug it. It's a it's a quick read. But i think you did a great job of just explaining. Here's what happened because there's a lot of people really curious and also what you went through. And i was intrigued. You talk about new forty days being very famous biblical number. That shows all over the place. tell me a little bit more about your interpretation of that forty days well they are just so many biblical interpretations throughout this whole story. I mean the story of the good shepherd and nickname meaning cordeiro cordeiro meaning lamb and the hoster. That called me about it. I mean like. I mean just over and over again and how nick i died on good friday. I mean that was crazy And then brought back to life by all these machines. You know having a resurrection on easter sunday. I mean like just crazy things So yeah i mean those first forty days and then he woke up you know after forty days just like it was really crazy over and over and over again but also that also just kind of Fueled my fire. That god was with us through this. God was behind us through this that he heard us that he was with nick through this. And and so that kind of honestly just helped me It it's amazing. How much serendipity is out there when you look for it and when you're at times of stress like that It happens in the question. Is okay is serendipity just random or is it you know as it a greeter organization to things based on whatever whatever faith you have i feel like there's a lot more serendipity in everyone's life Then they then they notice it's around you have to look for it right. I agree you have to look for you have to be open for you. Have to ask for it. You know. I mean right away win. Nick passed away. Somebody gave me a book. And i didn't read anything but the first chapter of the first chapter was all about asking for signs. There there you just have to ask the unit universe for them. And i started doing that in like the signs that come to me. All the time are just they're beautiful and it's comforting and it makes me feel like i'm having a a spiritual relationship with nick outside of this earthly relationship that i got to have with him would stifling now. I mean it's a year later. You've built a big community around Around yourself and around Just sharing your story so openly f things change when you've been on every major show and you have your own major so anyways you're already a famous person right that it is there been a cooling off a shift like what what what the day look like now versus before all this happened. I mean before my life has completely changed. I mean it's it's a complete like one eighty in a weird way. Nothing out of my wheelhouse. I mean hosting co hosting a television show feels very much like doing a broadway show. You know in new york when i was working as an actress and performer and dancer. This is what i did all the time live. Television live morning shows live nightly broadway shows parades and and award shows and being directed by you know you know what y'all in a hugh you know working with huge celebrities and that was that part of my life so doing what i'm doing now doesn't necessarily feel like you know whoa i used to sell insurance and now i'm co hosting television show. You know it's not like that but But yes my my world is completely different. But you know i. I don't know i'm extremely busy. I have five jobs. And i'm trying to also you know. Just be there all the time. I can for my son and also lived that quiet and normal life. When i finally get home at night. I turn on a light cocktail jazz. And i just try to have like a zen environment because my day is usually pretty hectic. Did you give enough time to grieve. i don't think that grieving has a time limit So i think you know. I think that's a misconception. At even my own misconception you know yeah i think is ironic. I'm going to post something about this. Because i've been writing about grief as my husband's one year anniversary comes up and You know i found that in writing. I it's therapy for me. I found that. When i wrote live your life and now i've i've been finding that writing again just kind of helps really kind of you know. It's amazing what our brains will think. And then when you get that on paper the release and then when you say it allowed the release again I don't think read has a time. I think when you lose someone Be it a friend. Be it a mom. Dad brother a sister god forbid child or or husband or a wife that never goes away. You don't stop you. Don't say oh it's been a year. i'm done grieving. You don't get that ward and euro pay now right. You don't miss that. Yeah you got that gold star. You did it. You don't miss them anymore right. You're done crying or done missing them. Things don't haunt you the way they did before right because it's been a year you're okay that doesn't happen. That's not realistic at all. Absolutely still cries still miss. I still feel. I mean. I think what happens is that you grow around it. You'd be you learn how to deal with that whole in your stomach or that you know a lot of people say that rock in your pocket a you just learn how to grow around it and grow bigger from it. It doesn't go away though. There's no time that that's still isn't there. Would a would it be defined sir and thanks for putting putting words something that it is very hard to explain his words. Thanks that's it. I think you can only really fully understand grief when you going through it when you've gone through it you know because otherwise it's just like what you assume it to be a assume it to be all of these awful things that it is but it's also sometimes beautiful and it's also sometimes easy and sometimes it's really hard but you can't even understand any of that until you're faced with the reality of it It it makes. It makes much sense. And you've got to get a little dated and his shifts and it isn't very predictable. I mean there's grief counselors and things like that who will of most people through the five stages of grief. Did you work with a grief counselor or therapist or someone like that. Who would help you walk through it or did you just say i'm just going to roll with it. I'm pretty much a roll with it kind of girl in an all my life aspects. I you know day. One of losing neck i went on. Google print it out that stages of grief. I put it in my room. And i thought okay here. We go anger for two weeks. Or you know whatever it is and that yet tech. You know 'cause. I thought because that's i think there you go. It's exactly like the misconceptions of grieving. And listen. that chart might work perfectly for somebody. I'm not saying it won't work for you. But i found that like i wasn't angry so i was like well. I'm not angry. And then i quickly just like i'm just gonna deal with how i'm feeling right now and go through these emotions and i started talking to somebody but it was like six months down the road i tend to be. I tried to try to process things on my own at first and then Go seek help. It's kind of what i've learned about myself. And if you could tell people on the show one thing to take away from the book like the biggest thing what would you tell them this. I think i would just say to i hope you read this any new. You close the last page and you remember how grateful you are to be healthy to be alive dead people in your life that you can love that you can talk to. You can say. I'm here for you for the biggest lesson. Gratitude for being alive is not take life for granted. it is don't take for granted. Isn't that what we all learned in the pandemic that is Those very true Don't take life for granted it's a. It's a beautiful message. And i think you've You've navigated a really tough situation with With beauty and grace And with vulnerability and openness in a way that helps a lot of people. And i think you already know that you've probably heard that let's times but it can't hurt tiered again in. Just make sure that that it. It goes all the way in because You've helped a lot of people both in this interview and with all of the things you've shared with writing a book because this is the hard stuff but it's in everyone's lives at some point or another and by sharing the way half I think you've you've done something very very special and rare and unusual and thank you. Thank you so much. That's very nice of you to say. Well amanda thank you at your book live. Your life is available anywhere. People like to find books. You're very easy to find on social media and all that stuff you guys can. Just google amanda gluts. You can find a harare fourteen shirt at be dash unlimited dot com which supports a charitable stuff around kobe. And just overall you bet you've inspired so many people you inspired me inspired or upgrade collective members on the line today and i wish you the very best going forward thank you thank you so much. Thanks for having me today. We got a good episode of good collective because have any Any final questions here. I was channeling their questions through to you. Bonnie had a couple of good ones in one wanna raise a hand in ask. Amanda question as we're finishing up which is the middle of the afternoon so deborah's ready so if you can do one question from deborah deborah gopher it. Let's see if we can channel your audio properly. Amanda i'm a member of the san diego theater community and i send my love. I don't know nick. Are you personally. But i have that. We know a lot of people in common and we watched your hall Your saga and your strength was Phenomenal from what we saw. And we our hearts for just hurting for you. And as you know all the theatres broadway still shut down and most regional theaters are still shut down. Nine is just wondering if you had any wisdom or or A message that you want us to send to all the stage actors out there who are still out of work. I think If anyone's gonna come back bigger and better and stronger after this it's show people there's no people like show people. They smile when things are down. We sing about it. I mean broadway is gonna come back. These theaters are gonna come back with bigger and better jazz hands than you could ever imagine. Because it's just a nate in our blood to wanna get back and create and perform and when it happens it will happen and it'll be safe and it'll be grand and it'll be wonderful to be able to go back into theater into see a live show and just hold on tight. It's coming at so close. It is so so close. It's been a journey but it's coming back and and it's gonna be bigger and better than than ever there. you go. deborah that's That's pretty darn inspiring. I think right by the way All of the stuff that people are pining for the the cruise ship industry. The the most expensive suites are selling out right away at the conference. The first time. I've done in a couple years in in-person event coming up The biking conference the vip ticket sales are through the roof. So if i'm gonna go. I wanna go all the way so i think when the theaters open. We're gonna see people saying i want the front row. People are so excited to just be back doing things that i think that you know that appreciation for stage for musicals for being able to go to see a show i think is going to be so gratifying for the performers. Because it's really art. That is just missing right. Now in everyone's life will thank you for that Extra bit of inspiration for all of the people working in in show business because it is a part of human society and it really matters in. We can't go for years without it because that's not how humans work beautiful. Well guys from the upgrade collective thank you for all of your Your audience support today. And i will see you guys if you want to in about another half hour because days of day will be a fun interview coming up here and amanda thank you for your time and your energy and all the good stuff. You're doing that really appreciate you and always here to help. Thank you so much so nice to meet you. Bulletproof radio was created. This hosted by dave asprey the executive producer darcy. Himes podcast assistant bev. Hamson podcast for information purposes. Only statements and views expressed on this podcast or not medical advice. This podcast including dave aspirin. The producers disclaim responsibility for any possible adverse effects from the use of information contained herein. Opinions of guests are their own in. This podcast is not in daughter. 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7 Rules to Reverse Aging and Live Longer  Ann Louise Gittleman with Dave Asprey : 840

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7 Rules to Reverse Aging and Live Longer Ann Louise Gittleman with Dave Asprey : 840

"Hi foam you're listening to bulletproof radio with dave asprey today. We have a live studio audience from the upgrade. Collective like we do on most of these episodes. This is my private mentorship and membership program where you get a call. Every week live coaching and a ton of questions answered it in our private community and classes. Where i teach you each of my books so if you want the concentrated knowledge of all the people i've interviewed and me. This is the best. I know how to do for you. It's our upgrade collective dot com. And it's really fun to be in a live studio audience because actually looking at a group of people who work with me every week on becoming stronger better. Faster smarter. More attractive and less egotistical human beings except for todd. I'm not sure about that looking at right now. I don't think that last part landed but for the rest of you today is a very powerful interview. It's about radical on jeopardy but have written a book about that this is about radical engevity with one of our elders. And when i say the word elder it is in the traditional meaning of the word as a token of respect and wisdom accumulated. We're talking about an expert who has four decades and thirty five books worth of experience. Her name is ann. Lewis gilman and if you are interested in functional and alternative medicine and you have been for decades. You know her work. When i was a young fat person. Hers is one of the early books. Say one of her many books. One of the early books i read. That helped me to think a little bit differently than oh i'll just eat less potato chips and exercise more because it turns out you cannot do that and a low fat diet is dumb. And louise is a columbia train nutritionist. An author she has written a new book called radical jeopardy which is really cool where she talks about things that affect aging that we wouldn't think about when we were young and that we didn't think about at least very often forty years ago like heavy metals e. m. f. n. She gets into the emotional side of aging as well as sailor regeneration and lewis. It is an honor to talk to someone who has written ten times approximately more books than i have and salama experience in this field than i do. Thank you for taking the time to be on board prof radio today. And it's my pleasure. Dave wonderful to meet you into now you living longer. Living better all starts with the number but not the number you might think. A according to the researchers at inside tracker leading scientists in fields like eight genetics and biometric data from mit. Tufts and harvard founded a company called inside tracker these padded algorithm to analyze your body's data and offer you a clearer picture than we've ever had before of what's going on inside you inner age. To-to is their new and improved personalized nutrition system focused on improving your health span. Their advance data driven model first calculates your true biological age using a bunch of different data points and then creates a science back to action plan designed to help you live a longer. Healthier life for a limited time inside tracker is offering bulletproof radio listeners. Like you twenty. Five percent off the entire store including To-to go inside tracker dot com slash. Dave to get the deal. That's inside tracker. Dot com slash. Dave okay i gotta just start here. How did you know okay in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight. Let me just take you back a little bit. So i was. Wow i was a junior in high school. You're at a book that's said. Hey idiots you didn't because you're nice. But i'm just translated. Hey idiots you're eating the wrong kind of fat and you're eating too many of the wrong kind of carbs. And that's what's making you fat and you had the courage to call it beyond again. Critic is one of the him and orange basically poisoned the country for decades with his low fat high carb nonsense. But you in one thousand nine hundred eight. How did you know this before everyone else. Because i was the director of nutrition. Dave in nineteen eighty with a pretty longevity center and i saw people healing from analog low fat diet i saw people healing and then getting very sick and getting cancer. They weren't getting heart disease. They're coming down with cancer. And i started looking at the research. And i looked at the literature and i learned about essential fatty acids importance of fish. Oil evening primrose oil olive oil and coconut oil. I wrote about in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight so i always been against the grain and i had to start telling the truth that i saw so many people getting sick and getting cancer so i wrote a book called beyond critic and pretty much jeff. Descending wanted to stop promotion of the book and the printing of the book. But i prevailed. And i've been promoting publishing thirty five additional books thereafter. So the right kind of fast. It's been a focus of mine forever and ever. That is where it's at sugars demon and we can't demonize that anymore. It really helps brain bihar delivered the joint the hair nails skin and our sex drive. That's all of my new book. radical deputy. It is so remarkable. Because as far as i know. You're the first person to say that. And i've i've definitely said the same thing. Oh you can go low fat and if your cardiovascular person and you say i'm just going to put on this little thing the side effect of that died of cancer i also publicly on my blog and he actually responded to it Mentioned that steve jobs was on the orange diet and that the orange diet killed steve jobs or detriments. Yeah and dr ordination has response on on my blog said well i recommended he get the cancer surgery and he didn't want to do it. But it was your your personal recommendations for high sugar that caused him to get cancer by causing mitochondrial dysfunction. But you're the first so you're you just noticed that there was an surprising abundance of cancer in people who around the pretty diet and that was sort of the observation that led you down the pound. I from west hartford connecticut to santa monica california was my first job in nineteen eighty and a woman came in to see me way back in one thousand nine hundred and she said i am the director of follow up. She said and everybody may be healing themselves from cardiac problems with ralph coming down with cancer. You have to figure out why. And so i started looking up their diets that started looking at their blood test. People running a hundred and thirty cholesterol bragging about bad. I saw high. Ldl's low hdl. And i said to myself something is wrong with this picture so when you see it in front of you you have to realize that you've gotta go a little deeper and look where people were failing to take a look that was in the literature. So that's where fisher was coming into play in one thousand nine hundred eighty four. That's where the evening primrose are. The olive weren't even the coconut oil. So i wrote about it because of what i saw. Because of this woman will mckellar. May she rest in peace because she died. Dave four years later bone cancer very sad. So you saw it happen and we're in a different world now where people recognize that the type of fat you eat matters at least do certainly everyone here. Listening today does Was listening to more than one episode of show hear'say different fats. Do different things. Different proteins do different things. But what you talk about too is would different. Oregon's do different things and you were very early voice saying The liver is a primary fat-burning organ and talk. Her and lymphatic. Six are the body's fat processing system. Can you tell me more about how you came to that conclusion and just explain what that means for all of us. I just doubted that a lot of people were not eating the proper kind of nor getting rid of them because they weren't exercising the lymphatic system. Which is the garbage collection system of the body. And i studied in one thousand nine hundred seventy four. Maybe a year after you were born if two years after october thirtieth nineteen seventy two seventy three. I sat in. This woman's off says who taught me all about delivering how important it was to burn fats with delivered by having three particular nutrients we said. We were very deficient in nasional. Metheny colon so. I began seeing that people had to have Were high in those elements such as sunflower less than touches butter such as cla rich butter raw butter ibn realizing that we need the right kind of fats to burn fat. And you needed the ability. To detoxify your lymphatic system by taking extra extra cranberry juice. So i i really was. The signature program was unsweetened. Cranberry juice because it actually targeted lymphatic system and digested fats through the lymphatic. So it was really all these people that i started with at that time. They were marketers. Were real healers. I learned i saw. I respected their wisdom and my initial teacher died at the age of one hundred six it. It's become one of those interesting situations. Where if you're an inventor and you invent something and no one ever uses it or kind of failed inventor and so you have to get good at either finding someone trustworthy to take your invention to market or you have to become an entrepreneur. Pt the difficult thing though. Is that if you are one of those crazy inventor types you don't necessarily have the brain because you're in creative land all the time. You're not an operator entrepreneur person so that inventor entrepreneurs and he's on spurs. It's the same thing in your saying this. So these amazing. There's with all the knowledge. The ones who could become really good at marketing is a tiny tiny tiny fraction. So there's people like you like me and many others who do our own research but also help to bring awareness to these really precious ideas and people who are doing the healing instead of the marketing. So i i think you were very early on that How how's the world changed for you. Thirty five bucks. but now. you're doing podcasts. Have you found it better as an author towards the later part of your career versus the early part. I found that you can't. You can't really depend upon your laurels. They wanna see what you've done in the last thirteen seconds so i'm constantly reinventing myself at the age of seventy reinventing myself and you know it's fine. It's well it's good. Because god willing we'll all live to one hundred and twenty as saying i may ask in the bible but i also find that it's a different audience dave. They're much more willing to take responsibility for their health and they realized that the body has date ability to heal itself. If we look in the right places and we're now looking for root causes not just symptoms. So i'm really pleased to be part of this new revolution which you've helped to pioneer. I'm held. i'm so grateful that people now realize that you can eat fat lose weight and field stronger and healthier and live to one hundred and twenty. It's all about the right kind of fat and also intermittent fasting. Now come into play. I wrote about that in two thousand and five and in those days people never realized how important it was. Now we have the research we got the anecdotal and the clinical studies. And i think that all these ideas are really ideas whose time has truly come so. I'm really pleased to be part of this in his elder. I say congratulations to you. Think you that that means a lot. i look at all you've done over the time you've done this. It is is truly impressive. One of the things. That i i look at his people. Have a track record of being a right early inconsistently. There are a lot of people who can be right one time right and maybe twice but if you're right and you're the hundred person to say it you probably borrowed your blog post from someone else right so there's kind of this echo chamber. That happens but i've i've looked at your books and all the fat flush plan and all and i just got to say your track record of stellar just stellar and. That's why i really wanna learn what you have to say about extending your age extending your youth span. Because that's the topic of your newest book which is resting on a pretty solid foundations of early knowledge. Well thank thank you so much but really the the honor goes to the people that i've studied with i studied with a woman way back in the seventies and taught me to look at the underlying causes of availa health of aging. Before your time. I looked at the blue zones looked at the people around me that we're living well into their hundreds and i think that there are certain traits that they all kind of exhibit that we can all borrow and replicate so it really is me but as being able to look in the right places and getting those root causes and taking away the toxins that affect the dna from repairing itself. Are you talking about He's little parcells as one of those people talking about dr hazel parcells who Ninety february of nineteen seventy four. Little after you were two three years old. And i sat. There is a twenty five year old saying to myself. This warm and i can learn from studied with her for the next. Twenty years. learned oliver's secrets because she died at the age of one hundred six with olive her senses intact. I think she actually died of a broken heart to be honest with you. David wasn't old. Age was broken heart. So i learned about the importance of emotions. Way back then so. I really feel that. We don't have to grow older. We can grow better. We can grow fitter more stronger more healthier. But we have to know what we're showing announced the time to start the process when you look back and you look at it where there's unique knowledge at dr hazel parcells was at los alamos national laboratories where my grandparents both had their entire careers on. My grandmother was pg nuclear engineer. She's ninety nine and a half so next time i sear. I am going to ask her if she knew dr parcels. The odds are pretty high. Because dr bells working on detoxing people from uranium. So family's story here. My grandfather came home. A going to say kinda like homer simpson trailing Plutonium woke and picked up my dad. And my dad was one year old or a crib anyway and of course they geiger counter their way down the street. Like oh you know. What's going on here and i say homer simpson eski was a co co-discoverer of pure x. Process to purify plutonium so he was actually like about a scientist. Do but anyway to my dad had to get decontaminated when he was when you're old and the whole house had to be deep plutonium's but i bet you. The doctor parcells was probably in the back with vacuum cleaner or something helping to detox. I'll bet you so that's cool. It's just a long time ago. And other parts of the world right. yes yes. I learned all about radiation reductive ourselves back in one thousand nine hundred seventy four. Nobody was talking about nuclear radiation. Or god forbid what was coming from. The bomb was detonated. Nineteen forty five but she was aware of that was aware of the non ionizing radiation talked about a microwave ovens back then so i've always been a little ahead of the game. Because of the knowledge that i gleaned from her. it's interesting that you bring up radiation. A lot of people don't know but we set off around a thousand nuclear bombs in testing and having grown up in new mexico. I played alamogordo. It's pretty cool. That was where the first test bomb was ever set off. And i always ask myself as a kid. Is it really smart. That we just keep blowing these things up around the planet on islands and underground and isn't there some sort of a problem in the prevailing wisdom back was like others as it's no big deal but what's your take on radioactive exposure and people now but this into our world you guys know that might oh qendra are about my favorite subject ever. Because i think they're in control of our biology a lot more than you might think. They came from ancient bacteria. There's still inside ourselves and they control how you feel all the time when they work. Well when they're healthy your brain and your body worked better and they get weaker overtime as you age or you're exposed to you get sick etc etc. I'm always looking for supplements that changed. The way might cadre and make them work better. One of the ones that come to my attention. Most recently that i've added to my stack permanently. Something called micro pure by time-line nutrition. I did a whole podcast on this. And the clinical studies that show that this nutrient revitalizes mytalk andrea slows down aging process and improves muscle strength. There are reasons that pomegranates worked for some people not others and after ten years of looking at what is going on here they figured out the metabolite that normally comes out of from after you eat palm if you have the right gut bacteria that has aging properties and they made its. You'd get that metabolite directly. And i feel a difference from it. I use it every single morning. Go to timeline. Nutrition dot com use code. Asprey ten and they'll give you ten percent off because you're listener and i'm on their year long plan. That's timeline nutrition. Dot com use code asprey ten. There is seriously good science around matter. Contra here this is something that was never available on earth until very recently. There's so many good reasons to add this to your stack. If you wanna live a long time feel better and look better your know that hacking your hydration makes pretty much everything in your body worked. Better your biology your brain. You have more energy when there's enough liquid in and around your cells and you also know that drinking water alone doesn't cut it. Electrolytes are really important. Especially if you exercise if you're in akito phase the bulletproof diet or if you're intermittent fasting and i've been saying this for ten years and all my books. There's a company called element l. m. n. t. then makes delicious electrolyte package that keep your energy up and they make your brain work better too. I notice a particular difference if i use elements either at the beginning of an intermittent fast so have proper electrolytes during a fast but most importantly before my infrared sauna or steam sauna. You don't get dizzy. You feel great when you're done and you're not tired. You actually feel recharged and electrolytes are. The difference element has zero sugar. There's about two grams of carbs. So it's not gonna break a fast and they have a new flavor that i really like called watermelon salt. I've tried it. It's really good and my kids really like it. This is something that we're gonna use a lot this summer when it gets hot. Rob wolf made these things. And he's been on the show longtime ago you'll also find professional sports teams special forces and even breastfeeding moms them. You can too. It's better than just putting salt and water go to drink. L. m. n. t. dot com slash. Dave and try the new watermelon salt flavor. That's element t dot com slash. Dave if you don't like it they'll give you a full refund and you don't even have to send it back. This stuff works. Why think we still have the fukushima issue. That's going on quite frankly so i won't even eat seafood out of the pacific ocean. I think there's still problems we're just not talking about it. Think it's one of the elements. It's making his older before our times. And that's where the song soda bath comes into play. That's what i learned from dr ourselves whenever you're exposed to radiation or an x-ray ray or a cat scan god forbid you have to pop into assault and soda the kind of detoxify the system while the excess acidity. That's two pounds of sea song two pounds of baking soda in twenty minutes of very hot water. So the som- soda and the cream of tartar. She talked about to really get rid of plutonium. And that's kind of old time remedies that everybody can use it or inexpensive cheap. Do that really twice a week on a weekly basis salt and soda and a quarter teaspoon of cream of tartar in eight. Ounces of water take that said in a bath or you drink it will drank eight ounces. You you mix up in port. Are you drinking to okay. You drank quarterly spoon of of the baking of the cream of tartar at least once or twice a week and then take the about twice a week especially when it rains when it snows. And when you you've been on an airplane because you're exposed to radiation who she believed that if you're coming down with the flu a lot of times many types of flu or actually environmental radiation sickness especially in the fall and the spring. So i've been very attuned to that for the rest of my life. Thanks to her. So solemn sodas part of my routine. Whenever i fly. Whoever a cat scan which. I don't very regularly or whenever i've exercises. Two pounds saw two pounds of baking soda. Twenty minutes in a hot bath now. I wrote in my aging book. That are studies showing baking soda. Just drinking baking soda a meaningful number of grams. I don't remember off the top of my head about fifteen percent lifespan. Increase and i do every day. A mix of potassium by carbon sodium bicarbonate away from meals. I don't want to neutralize my stomach acid but just to have enough of that For buffering in the system said a good idea bad idea. It's an excellent idea. Because dr parcells tomei about cobalt sixty was being added to the foods irradiation device. And she said the only thing. The neutralizer was baking soda. So you're doing something very good for your system although he didn't realize perhaps why. I think it's an excellent idea. I i use it when i can't sleep at night. Because many times people get very acidic. They tried to go to sleep and they wake up intermittently but taking about a quarter tease baking soda and eight ounces of water before you go to bed and maybe in the middle of the night if you can get your mind very clear and we'll actually. Al is the system in a very healthy so that your mind is not overactive. So it's really very helpful healthy and helpful all right so there you go guys. There's one thing that i didn't think we're going to talk about the baking soda as longevity tool but is the water so to your health. There's a little in my coffee to handle. Is they setting. Go skull now. Let's get into teaching. 'cause you have seven rules in your new book on radical longevity so rule number one is about immunity so tell me about immunity aging so if your immune system isn't tip top shape you're not gonna live very long. It's very simple so we talk about the nutrients you need. I'm a big believer in zinc on a daily basis. Elise fifty milligrams for most people fifty fifty. Okay that's a lot. Okay no but i when people do only go. Scans which which really can analyze your intracellular minerals. Most people are deficient in as we get older. We need more zinc. I know it's a little high but fifty milligrams really keeps people on a very very high level of immune system functioning. So i'm a big believer fifty and a key laid zinc incubated. What about balancing it with copper. When i went highs zinc i was taken about forty to fifty in various forms. It drove my copper levels low and got more gray hair as results. So you need since then. You need to be eating war copper rich foods. That's where you're ocado comes into play. That's where you're nuts seeds and a fluid based copper in some sort of organic. Glandular of some sort of desiccated live synthetic copper. Because that really can stockpile your brain creating alzheimer's but organic organic copper is very very important for the color of your hair and for your melanin for your collagen. So that can happen with people. So lots of liver the guys. I'm sorry to tell you that livers gross hate to tell you but like you said you can get a desiccated so it's not so bad or or just drink more coffee you a good brand. I've heard there's some good ones out there. But i i am no longer on the board or have any say or visibility into so. I think it's a good brand. I can't be sure so. Coffee is a good source of copper as his green tea and one of the high sources is actually on a non. Gmo lesson non gmo less than and because if you look back to my very first book on fertility i talked about using a non je soya lecithin or sunflower less than in the recipe for get some ice cream which had jokes and grass fed butter and some less than Which tasted really good. It's called get some ice cream because people would eat it in a half hour later. The bodies like. I have everything i need to make baby. Let's go to the bedroom. So it literally had this new disobey effect on people where it was a little bit of effort. Jack any explanation for that that you know about i could make up something really quickly The understanding is that copper is related to estrogen so it properly raise estrogen levels and made people more fertile could be. I had some some ideas for it but who really knows gives me for a second there all right so number one is immunity. Biggest recommendation is copper. What about over active immunity. It seems like as we age. Our you know. Our odds of allergies go up. Whether it's autumn unity seasonal allergies. Not one of my grandparents actually passed away from an autoimmune condition. Of the kidneys. So is there something to be done for preventing an overactive immune system as we age. I think you have to watch the kind of probiotics that you take into the system because probiotics that have more than fifty billion. Cfu's user actually in ten billion to be exact. According to the research with dr o'hare can overactive immune system so i believe in bounced immunity bounce amounts of probiotic staggered through the day. Not more than ten billion. I think it's also important to get rid of the underlying causes that overactive immunity which could be too much iron in the system. Too much violence. Unavailable copper parasites usually create an overactive. Immune systems looking at parasites Extremely immunosuppressive may be the number one thing to do. Your second rule in the book is about toxic. And you say parasites are way more common than you would think so. Why do we have a problem in north america that we don't know about. I think it's because dave were lacking hydrochloric. Acid were lacking stomach acid. Which is your first line of defense. That's where your salt comes into play. People are not taking enough of the good kind of soft. That's where a lack of iodine lack of zinc and lack of be one comes into play as well so i think this is something that doctors don't look for because they don't recognize it exists but i know that there's a parasite remedy that can actually kill cancer and cure cancer. It's known as bengal dog the warmer. So there's an awful lot to be said about these. Anti parasitic can actually help virus cancer and other degenerative diseases or parasites have an awful lot to do with the lack of immunity. Was that drug again. Ben dissol. It's a dog. Do you wermer seven. Ben ben diesel. So the research was done by a gentleman by the name of joe tippin. It had three months to live and he was told on a kind of on a flukey thing to get some dog the warmer because he had read about because he had heard about a gal that had worked with some test test. Animals that had gotten did parasites in actually then came down with cancerous tumors and we're giving this the warmer which is called fan van de panic. Your and so. He found that if by taking on a daily basis all of these tumors disappeared within three. So it's a it's a it's a real healer of cancer and it can also work with not just small cell lung cancer which is what he had but bone. Cancer pancreatic cancer lung cancer pancreatic cancer bond cancer thyroid cancer liver cancer and ovarian cancer. So this is a this is a parasitic that can heal all those disease. We'll look at ivermectin. It can do for the virus. The anti parasitic. I was going to say it. If you didn't we give ivermectin to our sheep for worms like it's a normal thing you do and it comes from soil bacteria. they founded in japan. And so there's a lot of links people don't often know about between mold and cancer where some cancer is a mold infection. Some cancer is myocardial. Dysfunction caused by mold or medals and some cancer is actually parasitic. And it seems like they cancelled industry. Just doesn't get it but you talk to individual experts usually from the holistic side. They're having these amazing results. But then you go in. And it's chemo chemo chemo. And maybe now kito plus chemo. Plus what do you think is going on there. Why do we not recognize these different forms. Because there's no money to be made made like like playing whack-a-mole with parasites. You'd think there were drugs for that. But i guess it's interesting thing. Is that we what we learned about. Ben dissolve it's called panic yours see and for those people that want to get something as a preventative. I'm taking a daily in my smoothie. Panic yours safer a ten pound dog it contains two hundred and twenty milligrams offenders all. It does three things that acts as a sugar blocker. It also acts as a stimulant for the c fifty three Gene so that it is very helpful in repairing the system. And that's a tumor suppressing gene. So it actually can activated and it starts to take away some of the little tube that connect the cancer so that it doesn't matassa size so this is a preventative. And it's an anti aging vitamin superior acidic anti-parasitic. So i think this is something we can all use for like nine bucks a week or maybe nine nine bucks a month. It's very very inexpensive. Wow that is amazing. I'm looking at right now. It's it's quite affordable She is certainly related to fluconazole. And all the other ones that seems like it might even be anti-fungal. Most of the most of the class is. I think it's very connected to the mall because the mold and the fungus is also connected to parasites connected to cancer. Wow so now. A lot of people are going to be saying that this is now a conspiracy theory podcast. Because i said cancer isn't cosby anything other than genetics. Even though a cancer expert on the show a traditional one says two to five percent are genetic the rest of the environmental. Yes i agree with you. I agree with him. yes indeed which. But you should take a look. I did a podcast with joe tip of the fell that introduced me defend vendors all and an louise's dot com slash podcast and he talked about all the research that's now being done at stanford and johns hopkins. This is being taken very seriously by some some of our illustrious institutions. Well i am really hopeful that we just have enough good hearted Goodhearted interested people who've have been on the show guys like mark. Hyman who are really willing to go out there and say we're just gonna look at what works and we're gonna talk about it and we're gonna talk about our soil and everything else because having our environment work right inside insider of buddies seems like that's the key to anti-aging when you really get past all of it. Be it be in an environment that your body was meant for essendon just given half the chance of body again can heal itself and let me say this aging to me is a privilege. It is that you're not dying. Well it's but it's denied too far too many people so you've got to be very grateful and take care of your body mind and spirit as best you can it's It's a really good perspective. And that when people are saying oh you know life is so bad. I if you're listening to a podcast your life. Isn't that bad that's just how it is. You might be depressed. You might be anxious and all of the above and certainly been there but end of the day. There's a lot of things that we take for. Granted one thing that people don't take for granted though when they made me very happy to see in. Your book was your third rule which is stop. Ages advanced location and products. This has been a core part of the bulletproof diet. Guys stopped carmela. Your meat and your carbs touching about events location products in food and in the body solid. These are advanced education. Products are very highly inflammatory number one in they crossing proteins number two. And you get the most of it from your food or the way that you cook your food which is why high dry heat is really forbidden. We want low moisture low moisture and low. He we wanna be cooking in a vacuum sealed container as possible. We want to be cooking without aluminum without iron without copper without nickel we want the elements that in our cooking utensils and we wanna stop air frying but we want to use brazing poaching and steaming instead is all those of the ways your brain because it's very because all the air fried food is high and dry heat so you're making a lot of advance like agent and products. That's why eating a lot of bacon this unhealthy nor is it healthy. A lot of cheese is those are very high in the bacon. What if the bacon is from a healthy animal without toxins but it's cooked at a low temperature much better. Yeah that that's the thing. I've been such a fan of vacant guys. I wouldn't eat most restaurant bacon because it's burned right in. You'll damage those things. And what if the air fryers turned down to a lower temperature. Because it's dry okay or well you want to add a little water little moisture. that's why like seeming the best raising the best supporting the best and even end papa. Load is very helpful. Guys in the upgrade collective. Does this sound familiar if you read the bulletproof diet what would happen if you use suv. Read and what if you su vida as a way of controlling the health parameters not just the flavor parameters and so here. You have someone who has been studying this a lot longer than i have. There is really good evidence that you shouldn't burn your food. What's worse burns carbs or burned me. Animal foods are higher innately in the ages than the command. The plant based foods. If you're gonna burn anything. Burn the plan foods. You shouldn't be burning those either but quite frankly it's the bag. Location and products can be found just generally in higher fat animal foods Exactly so that barbecue that tastes so good. Might not be the best way to cook it. And i'm sorry to say that. I don't want to tell you that you should barbecue. I'll tell you that. I got rid of my grill fifteen years ago even though i'm really good with it because it just it i could feel a difference. I'm you actually do feel the inflammation difference. If you're tuned inflammation in your body but you you talk about something. I didn't know you talk about cer- two in one and david sinclair has been on. We've talked about certain written about it. But you found a link between advanced education end-products products these compounds from overcooked meat and carbs. And just from having too much sugar in the body there's a link between those and cer- to in one. Can you talk about what that is. Will the higher the advanced like haitian products in the tissues. The less the less of these Survival ginger finding in nevada. And i got this information from helen. Both sarah that actually did the research on advanced location and products at rockefeller university in the ninety s. So the idea was that she was looking at diabetes and found advanced location. An products were probably the true root causes of diabetes. Not just the end. Proud derived diabetes with the root cause. And the more that you have these in your tissues the less you have of these very healthful. Survival repair genes the search group that you refers to win the research. So you gotta get rid of these high. He products high dry products. And don't over cook your foods and if you're going to grill you should marinate because that will help decrease the advanced like location product. So there little tricks of the trade that ride radical on javadi and the marinade should probably have rosemary and oregano. And thyme minute. i'm guessing. Say there you go all those in my backyard. Which is there for a reason now. Something that stands out. All of this stuff was known by someone on the planet who had studied it when i was sixteen and between sixteen and about twenty two i hit three hundred pounds. So the information wasn't widely distributed. It was hard to find and feel getting easier to find in just knowing that it was there. But i didn't know it still kind of irritates me as one of the things that that motivates me to keep sharing the stuff that i do And something else that. I was totally unaware of Despite having lots of knee surgeries as a young man. Is your rule number four about faster and fast as a sheet or that band of tissue that holds your organs in on the outside muscles that thin layer that you find in a stake. That's on the outside of it. What is your view of the role of fashoda in humans as we age. And what you do to make it stay healthy well. It gets stuck in frozen quite frankly from repetitive movements. For sitting on podcast or sitting in your phone with your your head been forward. So a lot of arthritis i think and be stuck or frozen flashes so you have to make sure that it's well nourished well moisturised Acid comes into play taken internally. That's where cupping and meditation and massage comes into play jumping on the trampoline and lots of movement. That's why that's so very important very simplistic with people. Overlook and don't appreciate the importance of movement for the russia the It's interesting you mention cupping if you if you go to The dave asprey box. I'm pretty sure that's on. Aspirin dot com. But i have a curated box. I'm looking at a set of cups right now for the next one having been decided on them yet. But it's such a cool thing and you'll see you know chinese energy practitioners with You know the light stuff. You know alcohol to create suction and there's a lot of traditional uses. But you can do it yourself with a little. Bit of training without fire and alcohol just with little bits of suction. So it's it's a neat thing. And i think it's is coming of age where more and more people realizing that something's happening with coming. How often do you do it yourself once a week. I do cupping once a week. And i find it. Very helpful in removing adhesions frozen. Fasha internal scars beautiful. You rule number five activate silo rejuvenation. And this is one that i really like. How do you look sailor rejuvenation. I make sure that the cell membrane is well nourished with the right kind of fast. And in that case i use hempseed oil because my motto is become hampton find. It's one of the only oils in his not rancid of the gla family. Our us about one to two tablespoons today day. And i make sure. Also that i take a lot of reebok signaling molecules which the cellular messengers to do enhance celebrate cellular rejuvenation so the whole protocols in the book. I also make sure that. I don't weaken the south by exposing myself to a lot of ems is ems can actually weaken the cell membrane by destroying the calcium in the in the cell itself. Hemp oil is high. Mega sex in it is easily destroyed by light and heat and air and even in the body. Why if we're focused on these other fats than you mentioned. Gla before like evening primrose oil. Why would you go with that high volume of omega six. Because i find it contains a perfect ratio of omega six mega three three to one ratio and i also find that is very helpful against radiation. It's the best oil. We have found to clear up. The scan might people of uses for about three years in what we find that it clears of rises in two weeks. So it's a good six hempseed oil. The refrigerated organically express. Yes indeed so. I think you said two things. They're refrigerated omega six oil. And i have to double down on that for you for everyone listening. If you're gonna do it. It has to be refrigerated stability right exactly. But that's true of any omega. Three and six both are very unstable to heat air and light and then you have to use it up within two weeks. So there's when you keep opening the bottle uses up within two weeks the one to two tablespoons day has been terrific for cradle cap for kids problems with the exit psoriasis dermatitis in the accident that i mentioned previously so it's really a a bonus for many dermatologists so i i don't have any issues with doing that for a little while and i have not had good luck with doing the tablespoon or two a day of a mega six oils even carefully treated ones who have and it may have to do with what the load in your body as of six versus three. And you've been doing this for a long time a tablespoon or two a day. I've been doing it for about two to three years. Yes indeed indeed. I have and i think and i've been using evening primrose oil and we use a little bit of pine door which i find very healing for the internal body and we don't use this consistently we use it for short periods of time. Interesting pine nut oil. I've never used that That's a big one. It heals ulcers and he goes on girded heels heartburn and heels on ibs. It's one of the best internal oils known to man. Mrs siberian this is. This is incredibly helpful. I wrote about it. My previous book and i write about a little bit in radical on jebusites another high omega six but it's got gambled atlantic acid and penalty acid very very healing from the mouth to the anus. You excuse the expression but very healing for the internal mucosal lining that is fascinating. I grew up in new mexico actually collecting wild pine nuts. We did that every fall. And this whole thing around. Christmas so Maybe i should start doing that again. Except encounter where we have these big cedars. It's weird all right. Let's talk about minerals. This is an area. I've spent a lot of time on this year. And i'm coming out with some new mineral stuff with upgrade labs you talk about copper and iron and alzheimer's disease walk me through that so the research that i've found with a copper is they're two different kinds of copper. There's organic food based inorganic. It's coming from copper water pipes. It's coming from copper. Iud's in the cupboard that's in your failing. The became much more prevalent. One thousand nine hundred seventy six. The natural copper. Your body can use for for for hair. Color can use for carrollton news for college and but the inorganic synthetic your body has no way of processing so it ends up in the brain. This is research. That was done by george brewer university of michigan. So we want to reduce that copper. Just get the organic copy which balances organic zinc and. Then you're in business. Iron can is also can be stockpiled in the body particularly loves the brain and can be a risk factor for alzheimer. So we've got to make sure that we balance our i. We don't want synthetic are that's in fortified foods and we want to measure our ferreting on a yearly basis. Making sure that it is below one hundred not three hundred. Two hundred allow one hundred because the studies at the longest living people in the world suggests that between fifty and seventy is a sweet spot for ferret in witches. The store and iron aren't as an anti aging or should say it's an aging substance in it can predispose predispo- predisposes you to a lot of free radicals and oxidative stress. You gotta get rid of the excess. If you want to be healthy for the rest of your life that is so well said if you have high iron and high fair ten. You're going to have high inflammation and i've gone through times where i certainly had that and monitoring that keeping under control is important especially for men because now we tend to get higher fatten over time because we don't have regular blood loss. Must we donate blood. Yes which is why donating. Blood is the most important thing you can do as preventative every single year and measuring visitor exceedingly high. You may have to donate blood every three to four months so you guys may think i'm nuts. But when i first moved to canada. I was very hard to arrange a blood donations where i live. This is about ten years ago and my favorite ten levels were high. And i'm like screw this. So i put an iv needle in my arm. Because yes i know how to do that. And it just went in the backyard and i I i watered the plants. I tell you they were very happy plants and if you think you're a vegan and plants don't like meat. I just proved you wrong. Let's talk about your real number. Seven optimize the gut brain connection so we all know that healthy begins actually begins in the mouth but it ends up in the got so we've got to have a very healthy guy. We need the beneficial bacteria. We make sure we've got enough skinny. Bacteria from the polyphenyls. Were getting from our good coffee from our fruits and vegetables. That were eating in moderation. We wanna make sure that we're making the proper neurotransmitters. The god health is exceedingly important. That's where you're prebiotics and modified and probiotics come into play okay. I completely see the same things. One of the things that you and i also share is the pace of the degradation of our environments. And what our environments doing to us. You've had more time to see how the world has changed than i have is changed a lot. You remember driving as a child where they're just be a layer of bugs. Every you went on your car. I remember that too and there are something like fifty percent less bugs by weight in the world than there used to be In any thoughts on turning that around. I'm not sure how we can turn it around. I'm concerned about the glide. Fixate overuse some concerned about the chemtrails concerned about the radiation preserved about five g. I just think you have to make yourself invisible for address. I'm not sure we can do about the environment ourselves to be quite honest with you unless we plant a garden and make victory garden. I'm under thirty. Two acre permaculture farm buildings soil making clean bacon and doing my best. but it's going to take converting a lot of this glyphosate soaked farmland that got destroyed in the us whence they was. They put the subsidies into turn into corn to make gasoline out of it. They destroyed so much of of the the nature reserve in our topsoil so that this is a fifty year problem. The problem with being an anti-aging person like me as we're gonna be around for fifty years to see it right so we can start on it. Now it'll take time but the glides the chemtrails i'm concerned about all of it and i i think for the average individual that may be listening and watching and near live audience is really taking responsibility to make the self as strong as possible. I very very much like that. And louise and i'm grateful that you took the time today to be on the show and then you've taken the time to write thirty five bucks forty three seven gs thirty. Seven was counting dave. And who's counting. Well you should be counting. We didn't get to all of the chapters of the book. Which is why people need to buy. There's lots of very actionable advice in there. But chapter sixteen reignite your sex life is an important chapter. It's one of those big things that keeps people alive. There's a chapter on reversing hair loss. And i'm a i'm. I am of the opinion that this is a worthy contribution to the set of books that people should have on their shelves about living a very long time and it's borne out of years of study with a lot of people and experience. So thank you. You're entirely welcome. thank you. Your website is an louise dot com without an e. a. n. n. l. o. u. i. s. e. dot com. Yes indeed and tell me the name of your very latest book again radical longevity radical activity. There's a whole subtitle there. That i was trying to find out. Yes the powerful plan to sharpen your brain strengthen your body and reverse. The symptoms of aging are publishers. Always make it to that there. You go that's what it looks like. It's on my shelf and guys. If you want a take on this holistic alternative but accurate and full of things that you might not have heard about this is worth reading and radical ws. The name of the book and louise cattleman is our elder who blessed us with her presence on the show today. Thank you on louise. I genuinely appreciate you. Give back at you if you like. Today's show you know to do well. If it appealed pick up a copy of an lewis's book and your job any time he read. A book is to leave a review. It's like if you get a cup of coffee. You tip the barista unless they wrote your name wrong emerge which case you don't but since authors like me can't spell your name wrong unless for signing your book and things like that while just leave review than custody anything but his way of expressing gratitude and it tells anne louise did a good job or maybe that she didn't do a good job so then she can improve and it tells me the same thing so leave a review when you pick up radical engevity and do and louise and the world and yourself a favor see on the next episode. Bulletproof radio was created. This hosted by dave asprey the executive producer darcy. Himes podcast assistant bev. Hamson his podcast for information purposes. 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What Are Your Favorite Biohacking Tests and Gadgets?

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What Are Your Favorite Biohacking Tests and Gadgets?

"What are your favorite biohacking tests gadgets. This is jj virgin four-time time new york times bestselling author celebrity nutrition expert and fitness hall of famer. I've been on a lifelong quest for answers to the toughest health questions. And now i'm sharing what i found with you. Welcome to ask the health expert. Katie from the beauty and the bio hacker podcasts asks. what are your favorite biohacking. Tests and gadgets hades. Jj and i got celebrity skin expert and board-certified aesthetic nurse. Rachel varga with me to answer this question. Rachel isn't accomplish. International clinical trainer and academically published award winning author in the space of aesthetic medicine in nursing and also an executive board member of the plastic surgery nursing journal. She's also one of the biggest tomboys you'll ever meet and grip taking apart motors riding motocross and riding horses. We'll be right back with the answer. Stay with us. I love this question about biohacking. It's pretty safe to say that. I was one of the first to combine both beauty and biohacking together and the way i kind of came to this conclusion was i started to work with a really beautiful subset of clients that i noticed. Were really taking excellent care of their house. They were tracking their sleep and looking at other types of metrics heart rate variability for example and they were aging much better than those that weren't really accessing what we would consider biohacking l. a. Quick little history and biohacking our our good friend. Dave asprey his father of biohacking and we actually use technologies to actually monitor our bodies and give us clues as she thinks. We may be susceptible to which is really great. So i'm a huge fan of utilizing biohacking gadgets. Like the irving. So that i can track the quality of may sleep and it also gives me a readout on my readiness scores when i wake up in the morning. I'll check on my sleep. And i'll check out my readiness for the day. So depending on how good maybe readiness score is if it's really great all really push that day. Maybe i'll get an a hard workout nego. Work extra hard with helping clients and and In clinic online or if my readiness scores a little bit low. Because maybe i didn't sleep that great the night before or that night or i didn't get enough exercise a couple of days leading up to that or i had a really heavy exercise. My body still in recovering mode all actually basically oh my day based on my readiness score i you a ton of other things including red light therapy. I like to do that in the bathroom and have a going. When i'm doing my morning and night routine with skincare products june minimal rolling things like that but i also use other devices like the some of addict to structure water and freedom or cohered field around my home and i wear something also called the art crystal which again is Basically a little device that helps to create a more coherent fueled around you again structure water and tons of other things. I love doing health tests. Kids genetic test kits to help me understand. No which foods are ideal for me to eat. Are what lifestyle modifications. I should be making what may detox pathways or doing. How fast metabolize. Things like coffee and alcohol. I have that information at my fingertips which is so incredibly cool. One of my favorite biohacking gadgets is actually at detector that casually measure the amount of jewels or energy output my body and actually helps me. Visualize what my human bio field is doing so we may have thought you know. Is that the aura. Actually the more medical medically accepted terminology. And that we can actually detect is the human bioshield. And so i love checking out what my vile villas doing looking at my bowel rhythms. So actually a really cool gadget that allows me to assess just that. I am a healthcare practitioner. So i do get access to some really cool gadgets but what we're finding is stuff as been available commercially or industrially used in things. For example military. Nasa is now being create an away for the masses to us so getting into more of the consumer commercial market which is really cool so if you can combine biohacking with your beauty that really is golden right there and if you want scan if you wanna age while you do really want to understand what's going on with your body mind spirit energy. So that's i really like biohacking gadgets. Tools fat this is jj with. Ask the health expert. I do this five times a week. So make sure you never miss a show by going to subscribe to. Jj dot com.

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Habits from Simple to Atomic Propel Big Life Changes  BJ Fogg & James Clear : 850

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Habits from Simple to Atomic Propel Big Life Changes BJ Fogg & James Clear : 850

"Did you ever find yourself in the habit of listening to radio Why don't i find myself in the habit of recording episodes of radio and thinking about what i can do to make it more valuable for you and it turns out. Habits are one of those things because habits allow us to automate. What we're doing the problem is that we don't really know how to make habits stick except there are a couple of people out there who have studied this for many many years and brought them together initio for you about habits. The cool thing about a special feature. Is that if this really sticks with you. There are two full episodes with a lot more detail that you can go back and listen to our first guest. Today is behavioral scientists bj fog hd who cracked the code on a fundamental part of. How human behavior works when it comes to forming new habits. And he says straight up. Don't rely on willpower or repetition. Which is exactly what i used to do instead. He teaches us to lean into the emotion. You feel when you do the behavior and to actually change it. And i have seen profound changes from this. Bj's a personal friend and i've spent quality time with them. He really knows this stuff. He lives and he's an amazing teacher. And also we learned from james clear. What james teaches is that you wanna layer habits. So they compound over time. He focuses on decision making and continuous improvement and his research shows. How habits help you fulfil potential and live better so there you have it. This is going to be a very powerful episode that you wanna listen to because you're gonna walk out of this going. Oh i'm going to turn a decision a habit and it's going to make me a better more powerful human being this stuff works. I use it staging pie performance. You're listening to bulletproof. Radio with dave asprey. Bj welcome to the show dave. I'm happy to thanks for inviting me. People who don't know about your work are going to wanna read your book. Well the title is tiny habits and in this book which oh i bring together almost twenty years of research. I explained a specific method for creating habits. The tiny habits method that makes The building and apps really easy and fast. The book does two things at once. It defines what behavior designers and gives the models and methods of abor design and then more specifically it walks people through step by step tiny habits so people can create habits quickly and easily was surprises. People is how much how effective the right tiny changes can be so if you pick the right tiny change. You can wired him quickly. Do you follow the method. You can have a big outcome from that and that is. I can't say like it's magic because i'm a scientist since i don't use those words but it really is surprising to people that how quickly you can form habits and there are certain habits that have this transformative impact on you one of the really important parts of biohacking something. That's made a big difference for me personally. Is light therapy. A company called juve pioneered red light therapy and they did a great job of isolating red and near infrared light at high powers and then they made their devices accessible and affordable for us to use in home. I find that my energy my fitness. My sleep are always better. When i use red light and infrared light therapy and i love juve. That's j. o. V. and i'm really excited because they just came out with the next generation of devices that you should know about their sleeker about twenty five percent lighter and they have the same power you can now stand up to three times further away and still get the recommended dose of red light and you can mount them just about anywhere you can think of. And there's an ambient mode that gives com low intensity of light at night only available for a limited time juve wants hook you up with an exclusive discount for your first order with some exclusions so go to juve. J o o v dot com slash. Dave and use code dave to get your discount some exclusions apply. The reason we do. Bad habits is because the immediate outcome is often favorable like the immediate outcome of eating doughnut. This it's sweet sugary it's tasty enjoyable. It's only the ultimate outcome if you continued doughnuts. That is unfavorable similar with Smoking a cigarette. The immediate outcome smoking cigarettes might be that you could socialize with friends outside of the office or you get to produce a little bit of stress or You curb your nicotine. Craving it's only the ultimate outcome two or five or ten years down the line that is unfavorable. With good habits it's often the reverse Especially in the beginning the immediate outcome of going to the gym is kinda sewer. The first workout like your body looks the same in the mirror. You don't have really anything significant to show for it. It's only if you show up two or five or ten years later that you get this outcome that you want and so there's sort of this like valley of death in the beginning when you're building any habit that you need some kind of external validation or some way to show up now. Once the habit has been bill and it starts to become part of your identity. Then actually you can like. I just went to the gym a couple of hours ago before we do this call and that was actually quite enjoyable for me. My body again does not look really differ from the mere scale is not really changed but i enjoy it because going to the gym is now part of who i am i get to kind of reinforce being the person i want to be. I do get some immediate satisfaction now. But i don't think that usually shows up for people when they first start to build a habit so that's how i would define the quality of habits. They differ. I would usually define it by the ultimate outcome. Not the immediate outcome. Do you ever worry that. People might use tiny habits to enforce habits that they think are good for them but aren't good for them. So yeah for shaw. You know the behavior model now. That's a way of thinking about behavior that is powerful and tiny. Habits is a way of creating habits quickly. And the way people use an apply. Those things i try to promote the good uses of it but i don't have complete control over who accesses it or how they do it and certainly people could use a tiny habits method to wire in habits. That aren't so healthy for them. There was a time in my own life day when i thought popcorn was a healthy snack for me. I didn't. i thought it was healthy. Man so i was trying to do the right thing and how to popcorn habit. That became a popcorn addiction. And had i not. I know people laughing at me. You're laughing at me but From my perspective it got to be a serious problem. But i thought it was healthy and then later now. It's very clear to me what the problem was. But you know so you can wire now that you think are healthy. But they ended up not being in tiny habits. You create what i call recipe and you find where it fits naturally in your routine the recipe has a there's a phrase and mine is after i turn on the first light at night i will put on my true dark glasses so i know exactly what i'm doing it so as soon as i turn on any light in the evening data becomes might prompt or my cue to then put on my true darks. That's just saying this because you're on the show or do you actually. Do you know how many dark days i give them away as gifts. No okay. I didn't realize that. That's what's i travel with them. I have two different pair with me here. And yeah i have like and it's just part of my morning routine. Even though i'm a behavior change expert. I look to you and others to tell me. What are the behaviors. What are the habits that are gonna make your healthier and live longer. How do you know when it's time to reevaluate a habit. That you think is working that you've bought into emotionally. And psychologically my broadly speaking answer is we need to close the feedback loop and the only way you can close the feedback loop is to choose the right form of measurement so in the case of your first example The measure was. Am i going to the gym or not. That was how you're measuring is the habit. Like i will always go and as as long as i show up. I know that's a success but in order to know if the habit is serving you in the way that you wanted to win again this entirely depends on what my optimizing for It sounds like in that case what you were. Optimizing for is knee health and weight loss. You wanted to not be three hundred. Wanted to not blow your knee out. And so actually maybe the signal of progress the measurement that we needed to look at was not my i showing up at the gym but is my knee. Getting healthier loads are forces on my knee. Reducing is the scale moving down and this is actually like a really important question to ask yourself. I think the first question is what my optimizing for yet. You need to be clear about that because just because there are a lot of goals and outcomes results in life that we inherit from the people around us. We many people are chasing borrowed goal. They they look at what other people do or what society tells them to do. They pick that up and so that first. Question's what am i optimizing for was genuinely important. Me here Not what what does society tell me. I should be doing about this problem once. You decided that. Then the next question is what is the best measurement to determine. If i'm moving toward the thing. I'm optimizing for and the measurement really matters because In some cases the measurement can be in many cases with habits in particular. The measurement is too slow to get people to you're not getting signals of progress consistently enough and when signals of progress decline in frequency motivation declines as well where you find is that in many areas of people working very hard even if it's like really challenging situation if they're getting signals a progress usually their motivation stays fairly high. Even if they're they're have to work hard because like well. I'm getting the results on looking for. I've used nutro picks for decades to fuel my productivity. And frankly i wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for what smart drugs did for me but do yourself. Neutral picks tax require a lot of research and they can be a hassle. That's why i'm a big fan of quality of mind. Their formula has twenty eight research. Backed neutral picks in ideal. Dosages neuro hacker. The company that makes quality Uses complex system science and factors in something called ingredients energy. So you get new trumpet. Compounds colleen donors amino acids neuro vitamins minerals adapted genyk extracts and an accident. That target your nervous system when i take it. I noticed improvements in my cognitive resilience. In other words. I can handle more decisions every single day. Go neuro hacker dot com code. Dave and save fifteen percent off your first purchase of quality. Mind near hacker will give you a risk free trial with the hundred day money back guarantee so your brain will work better or you can send it back. That's neuro hacker dot com use code. Dave fifteen for fifteen percent off. Let's take There was a device. I won't mention the brand name. let's take it outsourcing. I got really curious. How far do i serve every morning. So i wore a device that track. How you go. They actually had a surfing. And i did that for a couple of weeks and found that i served about two miles every morning. Wow and what it did for me. David took the fun. Out of. Shan't yeah i was more interested in keeping pace. Where am i and really changed surfing from being spiritual experience with connecting with nature and the power of nature and learning. I mean they're scared times nurse beautiful times when you see creatures so tracking that turned out to be a bad idea from me so i stopped the thing that wires having is not repetition people that say that haven't read the research carefully or they're misleading. It's the emotion you feel when you do the behavior. Now how would. I go about about doing something like that. Like how do i bring out that sense of our or joy with whatever the thing is that you describe as as the emotional motivator. What how have you turn that on. I have a chapter entitled emotions. Create habits really clear emotions credit habits. And what you can do is you can actually hack your emotion through a technique that i call celebration and celebration. It's anything you do. That helps you feel immediately successful For a lot of people doing fist pump like tiger woods insane awesome helps you feel successful. Other people like raising your arms in victory other people do a little dance. People literally give themselves a height. Five lana totally did the fist pump. By the way after her her blender suit that. I was laughing. The way to find what works for you as that swell in tiny habits give one hundred different celebrations so you can go there and look at the list try them but one way is to imagine that your favorite teams in the super bowl and the last seconds there behind last life seconds. They score and they win. What do you do at that moment. Dad then tells you what a natural celebrations for you so whatever you did then you can bring that in and when you do a behavior that you want to become a habit and media after the behavior while you're doing it do the celebration fire off that positive emotion. That's what makes your brain take note. It's like whoa what just happened. I wanna do that again. So you're deliberately firing off a positive emotion in order to hatch your brain in wire in the habit now this to a lot of people sounds whacky. I don't think it will be in five or ten years but right now this is new and nobody's ever like advocated that you do this But what i found. I love what you talked about with the not. And there's some things we know that works. We don't know why it works. That's what happened with me and celebration. I found that looking in the mirror. When i was flashing and i said victory like it was a time of my life date when i was playing around with the habits of my life was just oh my gosh a start up with failing out his doing a huge conference at stanford. I had a nephew that died from a drug overdose. My life was unraveling and i thought okay. Last one tooth. I look in the mirror and i think everything else today could be terrible to be two thousand ten. Everything else could be terrible. But i got one thing done. You did one thing right today. Dj victory and doing that now. I didn't studies. i did it. I was like oh my gosh. That had an impact side. I developed it. And then i started teaching it to others worked for them as well. And i didn't know the brain chemistry white I just knew at work later. I put the other pieces together. This is why it works. But the hack of celebration teams first before understanding the mechanism of wyatt worked that that makes a lotta sense and so people read the book and go through and say say all right. Here's the motivating reward for me. That sense you're consciously triggering emotion. Yes and there's a name to emotion now This emotion of internal successes not been named and so in the book. I give it a name. And i call it shine. Shine is now the name of the emotion when you feel successful when you see you estimate examined you feel. Awesome that shine when you make that awesome. Three point shot. I did not shine. And so now there's a name for it and that's the emotion that in tiny habits learned hack to wire and what's exciting about that to me is a lot of things but one is now. You know what. You're shooting for for wang inhabits but also to help your spouse your kids your colleagues q. Around you wire inhabits helped him feels shine and there's other ripple effects from feeling shine but one of the things in what you're doing here is you're deliberately weighing in the habit you asked about the best place to insert. I have two answers. The first general ones doesn't always work but generally speaking earlier in the day as better Particularly if you don't have kids the have like a four year old running around. They don't really care that you're running a script. They don't care that you're trying to meditate at seven. Am right. there's like but broadly speaking for most people the earlier in the day the less likely it is the responding to everybody else's agenda and the more likely it is the you have control over that time. Everybody has the same twenty four hours but not every hour is under your control to the same degree you know like generally speaking the hour from six. Am to seven am is probably more under your control than say the hour from two pm to three pm when you're in the middle of the workday so Broadly speaking earlier tends to be better. And then the The second thing is that habits by definition or a behavior that gets tied to a particular context so that can mean a lot of different things like for example the habit of tying your shoe could just mean the context of i have an untied shoe on my foot but you could also say something like a lot of people for example. Say that you watch let's example. Say you say you watch tv okay. You're watching netflix at seven pm. And that's your normal happy you get done with work you come home and then you watch television for an hour or two and you want to build a journaling habit or an exercise abba take whatever you want And see come home tonight and it's like seven pm and you sit down the couch. You open up your journal to journal or you get ready to start doing pushups on the living room floor. And even if you don't say it's specifically or think it consciously you're kind of non consciously being pulled to picking up the remote and turning on net flicks. It's like you have a behavioral bias in that environment. Because that's what usually happens in your living room seven. Pm and so my second suggestion is. I do it earlier in the day. You can second do it in a new context were. You don't have a previous habit already tied to that environment. So for example you could leave. Work go to a coffee shop. You don't normally go to and that stays becomes the journaling coffee shop and you walk in you. Turn your phone off. The only thing that happens you journal for twenty minutes there and then you go home and because you don't have that same behavioral biased because you don't have this Body of habits that you're trying to like a turn. The ship against Generally is easier to build a new habit in a new like a blank slate. a new environment. I really like that idea of just changing saying this is the habit associated with the physical space that that's pretty important so i teach a lot of product in baiters. They come to my two day boot camp which is not about helping them personally. It's helping them understand how to design for behavior and engagement and so on the one of the big things is the first time somebody uses your product or service. That's a huge opportunity. If you don't get if you frustrate them or you make them feel stupid. They're probably not gonna use it again but if the first time if you feel if they feel like you've given them a superpower if you've helped him feel successful in a way that's like wow they're gonna keep using your product or service and makes so much sense you want that immediate reward at. Yeah we talked about be mad. We talked with the behavior itself. How you choose the good behavior. Hopefully you have a good expert following The motivation we talked about what about ability. That's part of the equation. Tiny habits the you have to be trained in it or what is the ability. Yes so. I've two models for ability. One of them defines what ability as there's five components and i describe it is a chain model. There's five links in the chain and if any one of them has broken you don't have the ability and the links are for any given. How much time does it take. How much money does it take on the thinking. Our mental effort. How much physical effort in the fifth. One is a little harder to grasses. Doesn't fit into your routine sabrina. Good behavior say like shopping at the farm market every saturday more well. Do you have the time to do it. You have the money you have the mental capacity. You have the physical capacity in desert venue routine any one of those like if you can't afford the farm market can you don't have the ability to to the top of the far market or if you don't have the time so that's one way to think about ability and when you're trouble shooting a behavior behavior is not happening and you get to the step as they will. How do we make it easier. You're trying to figure out what your weakest link. oh. I have to think too much through this behavior. Well then that's a signal you may need skill up so you could do it without thinking so much. So that's one one model is really defining whether the other model is if you want to make something easier to do. You have three options one is you can train yourself so if you wanna cook healthy healthy fresh produce in the evenings you can take lessons in train yourself so you skill up so it becomes easier net case you're changing yourself. You're changing the person next. You can modify context environment you can get tools and resources get cookbook. Get st mars get knives. That's not changing your skill. But it's putting tools in your environment that make it easier. The third and final way to make something users to take the action and scaled back so instead of cooking whole healthy or maybe just do one dish instead of lossing. All your teeth just one tooth instead of twenty pushups maybe two okay so when you come to making it something easier to do you have those three options. And that's all you have and will always fit into one of those and sometimes you do both at once. Okay there's your ability and those are straightforward. You explain him out the way you might explain them one hundred times in lectures well but what's Now because i taught a lot dated figuring out those models took years and like okay. What's the next piece and then went off. It's like a puzzle. it's like a there it is. that's it now. And i'm happy to share it but i have to confess. It takes years to take something. That's quite complicated. Like ability and then create a modeled at parsimonious An actionable and that in some ways why it took almost twenty years of research pulling together to now create honey habits. Because it's not like you discover everything instantly it's piece by piece. I have one chapter in the book on The influence of jeans and personality habits and behavior. And i think a lot of the science is kind of on the cusp. It's on the edge right now. We're we're we're. We're getting some very interesting insights. We don't quite know everything like there's a lot to still be discovered but specifically dopamine one of the things we're dealing with as a planet right now is much higher levels of heavy metal surrounding us everywhere every day because of our industrial practices i had high levels of mercury. I had high levels of nickel and things like that are linked to cancer of immune disorders hormone imbalances and got issues. When you get rid of these things brain fog goes away and your body starts to heal one of the technologies that has made the biggest difference for me is an infrared sauna. I use the sunlight. Amplify on it that has farmed for red light in addition to two full spectrum heaters. That's why i think. You should consider infrared saunas when you think about longevity detoxification weight loss and muscle recovery checkout sunlight and dot com slash. Dave for all the details about infrared. What it can do for you. Then call sunlight and direct in mentioned dave asprey. And we'll give you two hundred dollars off a cabin sauna or a hundred dollars office system. You get free shipping too. That's sunlight dot com s. u. n. L. h. t. n. dot com slash dave for more info so dopamine actually often declines with age and so the amount of dopamine the under forty. When you're sixty is not nearly what you have on your twenty five and many addicts will actually age themselves out of addiction. So they'll be addicts in their twenties and thirties. And then as they get into the forties fifties they just don't experience the wave of desire as much as they did before and So it's easier for them to curtail or even discard those behaviors entirely as they continue to age in their dopamine natural dove me levels drop and You know there are a lot of touch points here. Parkinson's is another very like dopamine dependent disease. And so as you start to take Drugs to Regulate your dopamine levels if those if the drugs are out of whack if the dosage is incorrect. there's very interesting stories. Radio lab has a fascinating episode with them with a a parkinson's patient who basically their drugs turn them into a porn addict by taking the drugs but at the wrong dosage dopamine levels were all out of whack wackily they had these intense cravings and they'd spent all day looking at porn and like wreck their career and home life and all types of things. So there's a very fine line there And it's it's it's definitely clear that there is a strong link between habitual behavior and doak me driving those actions and one final question for you. What is the one bad habit you have that you have not yet broken the hard loman. Well i have a bunch. i i i say this in all sincerity like my readers. And i are peers. Were both going through it together. we're trying to figure it out. Were experimenting. I'm learning this just as much as everybody. Else's my publisher had a good line. She said We write the books we need. And you know. Like i. I wrote about it because i wanted to learn about it and So i'm still going through it for sure i'll give you. I'll give you one. Though that i started with a lot when i was writing the book. Which is i guess for lack of better term a power down routine so i had this cardinal rule where i won't cheap myself unsleeping so i i try to get eight nine hours night especially if i'm training heavy in gym and So i also have this problem though. Which is i liked the work that i do and i get the second wind sometimes around like nine or ten pm on my god. Just check email. Or i'll A work on this chapter for a little bit and all of a sudden you know nine. pm turns into one am and it's like okay. Well door to. I do i make the trade off here and i always choose to get the sleep which i'm glad that i do But you know if i go to bed at one that means on ideas and start until like nine or ten And so i would prefer to get up earlier But that's one that. I still haven't quite kicked. I think as one final kind of useful maybe exercise or point. I think you do this not just for what. I'm struggling with but also for pretty much any habit which is walk back the behavioral chain of what leads to that. You might look at that. I might look at this and say Well i think the real problem is that i'm not sleeping I'm not going to be the prop ms mode about at one. Am but then you are like well. Okay why am i up at one. Well actually might one. Because i'm like staying up answering emails. Okay y answering emails. Well an answering emails. Because i have a bad. I do a bad job of shutting down six. And i don't have enough of this automated and there's a bunch emails dancer still and so then you start to realize like okay. Maybe the real answer is when we need a better system for processing email. I actually need a better habit of shutting down at six. I don't need a better. Tau power down avenue. I need a better end of workday habit and walking back that behavioral chain to get to the root cause. I think it'd be a very useful way to try to solve some problems. We all struggle with so much. I really liked that perspective. You look at the system. Like where's the system broken because it's probably not what you noticed it's upstream this almost always up straight no don't sell trash-talk don't be yourself. Don't blame yourself when your change efforts. Don't work if they don't work. You're probably taking an approach. That's an old fashioned approach and it's not your fault it's you just haven't been given the right approach yet. And that just that notion. Dave of wow you mean i did. Xyz for so many years and didn't work. It's not my now. it's not your fault you just hadn't been given the right way to do it yet. And the best way to do it is feeling good. Not by feeling that. That's actually a relaxing at to hear that. Even though i. I already know that it's true. I spent so much time in that building habits to lose weight and have it has been ordered the salad with no dressing and no chicken and i'm going to work out excessively in when it doesn't work like oh my habits don't work then you feel bad. Maybe i need more habits and all but it turns out i it. It really wasn't my fault that i was doing but it wasn't working. It's it's a you know i. It was four months in so i started teaching tiny how publicly in two thousand eleven people sign up and i would coach them through email. Two three hundred people a week adds up. Probably four to five thousand people in teaching and a woman wrote me on wednesday day programs. Dj now helped me see. I've endured a lifetime of self trash talk and thanks to you and your celebration. I'm changing that now. And it's exact. Words basically i now. She a potential myself. I never imagined and that day that email was significant. I remember exactly where. I was sitting how it struck me and my reaction was okay. This tiny habits thing. This quirky little thing. I've been doing needs to not just be you know. Bj's side research project. I need to bring this out in a bigger way. Because then i started reading people's emails differently and i understood that this was really comment. People self trash trash-talk all the time they they beat themselves up and i think it's the first paragraph in my book. I say that's not helping you. It's not your fault and this book's about helping you do it in a way that you feel good and shame and self trash-talk has no role in the best way to transform your life but then you are like well okay. Why am i up at one. Well actually. I'm up at one. Because i'm like staying up answering emails okay. Why am i answering emails. Well an answering emails. Because i have a bad do a bad job of shutting down at like six. And don't have enough of this automated and there's a bunch email answer still and so then he start to realize like okay. Maybe the real answer is whenever we need a better system for processing email. And i actually need a better habit of shutting down at six. I don't need a better power down. Abbott anita better End of workday habit and walking back that behavioral chain to get to the root cause. I think it'd be a very useful way to try to solve those problems. We all struggle with so much a really liked that perspective. You look at the system. And like where's the system broken because there's probably not what you notice it's upstream and it's almost always upstream rate. One habit that. I'm going to ask everyone listening to put in. This is a very simple habit. It's not daily at all every time you finish a book when you close the page or you get that last page on your kindle your audible the habit is this go to amazon leave a review for the author and it. Yeah it doesn't matter if it's a bad review were a good review address to the author but it should be truth but we want data on how we're doing so if you'd like to leave a tip a restaurant which is probably habit that you do do the same thing for an author. Leave us a review in matters so pick up tiny habits and leave a review. After you've read it. I know just gonna wanna see the review a soul. I and on that note leave review for the show too. I appreciate that how beautiful day bulletproof radio with created and is hosted by dave aspirin the executive producer. Darcy hines podcast assistant. Bev hamson podcast information purposes. Only statement views expressed on this podcast or not medical advice. This podcast including dave aspirin. 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The New 3 Rs for Energy: Rest, Recovery & Restoration Dr. Saundra Dalton-Smith & Kate Northrup : 851

"You ever wonder if you're balancing out your hard charging stuff with rest and recovery. It could be bio hacks with extra cryotherapy or doing more squats than you should or high intensity interval training or lifting heavy or any other stuff you do. Are you balancing it. Out with reston recovery you can manage energy flows so that rest ranks as high as what you eat movement sleep human connection so this is why i put together a special episode for you which is bring up to bulletproof radio. Experts who focus unrest. If you only rest you're only push you're doing it wrong. You're going to learn about your rest deficit and several different types of rest. You probably haven't thought of. It was really mind blowing set of knowledge for me from dr shonda dalton smith. She's going to tell you. The seven kinds of rests that define higher gonna show up in the world and it did change some of my personal practices when i first got in touch with chandra and learned about her work other guests is kate northrop who says a resounding no to the addiction of business and she says straight up that personal worth is not based on productivity and she did peng's it very scientifically and she'll tell you how to balance practical data and soul work so you can manage your energy and your life she'll tell you that doing less in a smart way gives you more of everything and what cates telling you is yes value your time but you don't have to value business because business is wasting your time and if you value it you don't wanna waste it so then you don't wanna be busy and it's in the stillness that you can do things like meditate or even do nothing including meditate and that's pretty cool enjoyed this episode because there's a lot of wisdom in a very small amount of space so you can have some rest when you. Hi you're listening to bulletproof. Radio with dave asprey. I found someone today to bring under the show to talk about ways. You can figure out what rest. You're not getting better yet because well. We are bio hackers after all. It's a quantitative measurable way of doing it dr. chandra dalton smith who's a board certified internal medicine physician work life integration researcher speaker and now bestselling author. She's been on doctor ause fast company's psychology today while credentialed and she's talking to us from birmingham alabama worship practices. Well welcome to the show. I'm i'm so excited dab someone's gonna talk about sacred rest which is the title of your book. Yes well thanks for having me all right. Sacred rests freidy interesting title. Why did you go with sacred rest. I love it by the way. But what does it mean. Have you ever noticed how it feels. Good to walk barefoot on the grass or in the sand. And that's because you're standing on something that is a natural energy source. It's called the earth when you have your bare feet on the earth itself you absorb energy in the form of electrons and you drop a charge that the body has like a static charge and those electrons from the earth. Help you get grounded. Literally it makes you feel good and it's good for inflammation in your body. Most shoes have rubber or leather soles that create a barrier so you're always separated from the earth not harmony seven eighty threes harmony seventy-three makes shoes with a conductive carbon and rubber outer soul and bio friendly bloom mid sole an issue is made with proprietary technology from the soul up all the way through the interface. Bed end result is that you get grounded when you walked directly on the earth. Go to harmony. Seven eighty-three dot com slash. Dave dave twenty at checkout. You get twenty percents off. All grounding foot wearing socks that's harmony seventy-three dot com slash. dave. Well i think that's the thing. My approach to help and wellness really comes from two aspect. I love bringing in the science. And i'll love also bringing in the spiritual part of it thing and how they work together and so for me when i started looking at this whole concept of rest. I wanted to make sure that. I covered both aspects kate. Welcome to the show. Thanks so much for having me. Why did you decide. You're going to build a company as a mother of and get well. Actually here's the good news. I started my company before. I had kids. So we were well underway by. The time started having kids though. I work with a lotta women who do decide. And here's what's really crazy. There is something that happens. it's very common. This is purely anecdotal. That i know so. Many women who get crazy burst of creativity at the same time as having hits and it's not optimal timing but at the same time. I really believe that. Creating a human stimulates your creativity on a lot of other levels as well like the best work. I've ever seen out there. It usually comes from someone who had to deal with it. Why did you get into rest. To burn out. Or what was your. What was your your spark. Debate going death absolutely. That was the reason. I wish i could say. I woke up one day and just really had a desire to research rest. But it wasn't that simple. I burned out about ten years ago. And i was at a point where really. I knew that i wasn't getting enough sleep. That was obvious. But then when i started trying to get more sleep and it wasn't solving my fatih you know. All the tests came back normal. There wasn't anything wrong with my thyroid or any part of my lab work then at that point. Commissioner medicine really wasn't giving me a lot more answers so i started looking at. What is it. That's really tired because fatigue isn't just about the physical and so i was trying to fix it with getting more physical sleep and that wasn't the solution that i really needed for me. It was one of the other types of rest that i was deficient than and that just took me down a path of studying. What types of rest or out. There when things swirl in our minds they it's like they you add fertilizer to them. They explode they become bigger than they actually are. But when you do a brain dump and you write down a list of the things that you think you have to do or the things that you have on your plate and then i recommend asking the following questions about the items on that list one of them. The first one is and i do this every single week. At the beginning of the week Because most of us think that in order to be more successful we need to add more to our plate but the vast majority of us in order to be more successful in whatever way that means for you. We need to take things off our plate. We need to do us and so first question is does this need to be like. Does this actually need to be done so so often we get caught up in these idealized projections of what our lives are supposed to be. Or what motherhood is supposed to be or marriage is supposed to be and a lot of them are based on unconscious inherited beliefs from our culture from our families from our religious upbringing. And and we might be doing things just because we're upholding some standard that if we've really were to check in with our hearts and souls they're not actually bringing us joy so i've leave things need to either bring us results or bring us joy and if they don't bring us results joy than they have no business in our lives. So does this actually need to be done. Is is the first question. I would like you to walk listeners. Through what these types of rest are. What's the science behind it. Well i'll name the seven at i. Three of them are pretty. Well known and and pretty common tim as people visit the physical the mental and the spiritual those three most of us of heard of and have some idea that we need the four that. What's a spiritual rest. I don't think. I know that one physical i got at mental. I kinda get but spiritual rest. What is that. it's basically boils down to the rest of receive when we understand that the world kind of as a bigger place than just what we are experiencing is how it has to do with a sense of belonging. It goes into that filling of community of of really understanding that. There's something bigger than just your small portion of existence. And i think for many people. It's helpful because what happens with that is you don't always feel so alone even when maybe you don't have family with you or you're not in a situation where you're in a relationship with someone else you know that you belong to something bigger i call it kind of the greater humanity experience that many of us need to feel because when we don't feel that we have this feeling that while my life doesn't matter i don't really i don't really matter in this existence you guys know that i'm always on the cutting edge of experimenting and figure out what's going to work to upgrade my own biology and i wrote about something called sperm dean in my big anti-aging book but you couldn't buy it you could only make it with a rare probiotic and the gut that had questionable facts. Well now there is a new form of sperm. That you might have heard about on the show yes. It was discovered in the substance of which it sounds like. It is one of the big breakthrough supplements of the year. I am firmly. 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This stuff is awesome and the truth is largely. If something needs to be done a lot of the times it doesn't need to be done by you. And then the third question is does it need to be done right now and this one is incredibly helpful. Because if something doesn't need to be done today or this week it really doesn't belong in your consciousness. It belongs either in your project management software or on your calendar at a future time so you can take it out of the swirl. It sounds really really good. But i agree with you especially for entrepreneurs like if someone else can do it. Why the heck are you doing it for moms. That means laundry warm short. You need to divide up the tasks and stop expecting yourself to hold the whole thing. Because somehow that's gonna make you a better woman. Doing more laundry and cooking. More meals is not going to make you a better woman. So i really recommend and mike and i did this. We wrote down on pieces of paper every area of our lives and every single thing that needed to happen in every area of our lives and we went through and he chose the thing that he loves to do. I chose the things that i love to do. And then we both made a re both marked off the things that we absolutely hate to do. And so we looked at okay. What can what actually has to happen on this list. What doesn't need to happen. Who's going to do what that are. And for many of you kneel meals don't need to be yours every single day and especially as your children get older you can you can Pull them in as well because especially when they're in that like seven eight nine ten. They're actually still really excited about helping. And contributing and the earlier we get them as contributing factors in our families the better for their wellbeing for the rest of their lives emotional rest versus With lyon between those two well emotional rest has to do with your ability to be vulnerable and authentic with other people. And i look at it like this for many of us. We have these personas that we that we portray these images that we give out to the world and there's a stress associated with performance that there's associated with just being professional. I mean as a physician. Myself i oftentimes think about the emotional Unrest that. I feel when i'm in an icu or er setting where maybe something traumatic happening. While i'm a physician. I'm not gonna burst into tears. That's not professional now doesn't benefit the patient but there's a stress that comes with that in holding back. What feels authentic real invulnerable. And i think it's important for people to realize that many of our lives live under that stress maybe not in the same sense as mine as a physician. But if you are the head of a company and there's something stressful going on in the workplace. You can't just kind of blow up and have a you know. Have a moment necessarily in front of your entire staff. You're trying to maintain that level of professionalism and unfortunately for many of us we take that into our personal allies from our professionalize so there's never a time that some people are ever truly authentic invulnerable and open to share those emotions so they never get that emotional rest of just helling the truth if a three or four year old is going to help you do something in the kitchen. It takes you three times longer. And it's twice the mass. I love this. This is such a good. Yes see yes okay but this is the same thing as hiring in your company. Yes is it easier for you to do it the first time. of course it is. Is it annoying to train somebody. Yes out wherever if you. It is the best time you could possibly invest in the long term because the hours it will free up with four years to come are essentially infinite if you invest the time upfront. And that's why. I really liked to think about spending time versus investing time spent time. You don't get it back. Invested time you get a reward in some way now with our kids. I understand if there are three and four. You just get a bigger mess like when my when my four year old helps me fold laundry. It's not done the way i like it. And it's really allow it. To be my experiment in surrendering healing. Inner control freak letting go and being present with her because when she's sixteen. I want her to still be folding laundry right and for me not to be doing it then and so. I really really really recommend that a when we decide. We're going to have our kids help that we decide. That's like our activity right. So that's our time with our kids so am i. Cooking with my kids to have a perfectly clean kitchen and for it to be the most efficient meal ever no no. I'm cooking with my kids to have fun and to be with them. So it's and es down the line then they'll know how to cook like in several years so that's an investment you've had like hundreds of thousands of people look at rest quiz dot com. Have good data here. Is that the worst lack of rest. What's we haven't gone through all seven but what's the the one that people are most lacking. That's a huge one Emotional rask mental rasa huge when The one that. I think that i get the most emails from honestly that people seem to me the most surprised about what the creative breath you know that might oke andrea are the power plants in your cells. But they're also something that makes a bunch of other things like neurotransmitters and proteins that your body needs their ground zero for that energy for how you age and for your health timeline. Nutrition makes a supplement called micro pure to optimize the way metal contra work it's got clinical studies backing it to revitalize them taking it. Every day support healthy mitochondria and muscle caldians strength. Go to timeline. Nutrition dot com code. Asprey ten and we'll give you ten percent off because your listener. I'm on their year long. Plan that's timeline. Nutrition dot com use code. Asprey ten the wine. That i think that i get the most emails from honestly that people seem to be the most surprised about would be create a fresh and i think because most of us when we hear that creative resper automatically thinking of like musicians and artists and writers people who have a creative outlet as their way of life as being the only people who would need create a fast but really creative. Rest is is an issue for anyone who's innovative. Who's having to think outside the box. i see it a lot and people who are entrepreneurs or in marketing or pr. They're constantly having to think new ways of doing things so they're creative desk with end their career and for those people what they start seeing. It's that they have a harder time coming up with new ideas. They lose their motivation and their inspiration. And that's what creative rest does it actually helps you to be able to be inspired to be motivated again. I think probably the easiest example of creative rest for most people to identify with as if you're someone who when you're around bodies of water or maybe at the mountains or at the beach or in the woods just outside in nature and you get this experience where you feel better. You can't explain it. It's like you can't complain a specific you know thing on it and say well. This is what happened is why felt better. But you know you feel better in these settings. That's an example of what creative looks like is the rest that comes when we allow ourselves to experience beauty whether that's natural beauty or it could be man maybe like art or the symphony or or going to a museum or something but you're letting that really awakened and create something inside of you and that helps with that inspiration. We need to be able to do that other innovative things in our life. How do you recommend people break the addiction to business I love this question. I think it's a lifelong kinda thing and it really has to do with getting in right relationship with our central nervous system so you spoke about and how prevalent it is. I used to be. I used to really struggle with us with panic attacks. I was on medication And i i tend to be an anxious person as do many people that i had to tell myself. Okay if i call my central nervous system which i need to do just for thriving and i know that that wasn't enough information for me. That wasn't enough of a reason. So i had to get into the data of okay. If i call my central nervous system and i can be operating from para and pathetic instead of sympathetic. Then i'll get more blood flow to the appropriate areas in my brain. It'll make me more productive so i have. The great muses is on the other side of that now. I care far. Less about how much i get done. And i'm more calm and so i really do recommend Any amount of meditation and so ps like my amount of meditation is like five minutes four times a week. So and sometimes it's with a child on my lap so i'm not setting the bar particularly high with that amount has really worked for me or going to dance class. Going to dance. Class for me is the way that i get into right relationship with my central nervous system. So i really there's no one-size-fits-all something different is going to work for a for each person. But those are some of the things i do and then just breathing in and out through my nose instead of Through my mouth helps me quite a lot. You also have sensory rest in here Which absolutely love what is sensory. Russ how do you define it while sensory rest is when you undo some of the ongoing sensory impotent that we normally have within our day so that can look many different ways. I think for most of us. It starts with really understanding where your senses are being attacked within your day. If you're on the computer all day if you're listening to a lot of different background noises i mean could be the telephone from other people and the office or it could be your since. We're working from home now. Compete your kids in the other room talking and and let and laughing. It can be the bright lights from your computer screens or just from your office. Space be the smells and the rim It could be your. If your appearance of small kids it could be from touch from them wanting to hook you sit in your lap. There's so many ways that we experienced sensory input and many times leading to sensory overload. Because we don't do things to downgrade our sensory the amount of sensory input that were receiving this thought of rest actually playing a role in who i am and how well i'm able to think new thoughts and come up with new ideas and dream bigger dreams and and really do all the things that most of us wanted do. We are constantly focusing on the work and the the effort required further work. But i'm one who i want to be able to do. Great work without any exhausted at the end of that great work. I want something left at the end of the day so that i'm smiling. I'm happy. I have something to bring home to my husband and my kids and not bringing the exhausted version of me. I'm bringing still the version of me. That's able to serve them to the best of my ability and that's why rest does now. We've all heard the. I get rid of anything that doesn't bring you joy From the secret art of tidying things up or renchik art. Oh yes do things up You know it brings me joy eating chocolate and watching breaking bad just over and over and over and maybe some good suck and sushi between the bouts of chocolate. Is that really the the recipe for doing less and all this. I almost it's over simplified because as humans also like to have a lot of sex that brings me like none of that's productive for the world for my mission for my kids really. But i mean it brings me joy. Why think there's an intersection right. Things that just bring you joy. And then there's a there are the things that add value to the world and so if he were to create a ven diagram you on do work. Ideally that is the intersection of the two. You know that little if it were the Pisces which is beautiful Sacred geometry sign rate. It's that little ellipse in the middle That is where we want to be in our work as much as possible. But ps like there are things. I don't the don't bring me joy in our business. Like i don't love you know sitting down with my accountant and talking about taxes. That's just kind of part of the deal so the way i recommend dealing with those things because there inevitably things. Oh my gosh like signing paperwork and talking about legal structures and trademarks. I just all. I got it so hard for me however i do believe that how we do. Something is sometimes equally as important as what we do so In my first book money a love story. I talked about adding pleasure and fun to your financial practices to get yourself to actually do them. And so what. I had to do when i was in. Financial recovery is bring dark chocolate with me to my keeping or drink. Capucci out of a wine glass or you know. Put on a favorite song like. I think that we can infuse the things that aren't so joyful with as much joy as possible so that we just do them. Here's the ten thousand dollar question. You just introduced seven kinds of rest per pupil home before they probably thought they just need sleep or maybe sleep any yoga class. So you just increase. Everyone's stress levels because now that oh my goodness. I'm not getting the right kind of rest. I must be a bad person. I know yes. We have orthodoxy for like omega eating. The right kind of foods now have rest rex yet. Which you've just you just invented on this show. How do people know okay. I should focused my rest investment. I'm going to focus today on one of these kinds. How would you go about knowing which is the one that you need. The most well honestly. That's where the quiz came from. My intention wasn't initially to do a quiz. But when i sat down with patients and sat down with clients that was the number one question. People would say okay. Now i need all seven of these things and they would just add something else to their to do list seven extra things to their to do less. And that is not the purpose really. It's a matter of looking at where he pouring out the most in your day because for most of us that area where reporting out the most is likely to be the place where we're going to become more deficient especially if we're not doing any specific intentional restore to that timothy's to try to get back. What were pouring out energy wise in that area and so for those who. That's kind of difficult because you do a lot of things in your day. That's where rest dot com came from just to be able to give people a quick glimpse of. Oh this is the one or two that i need to focus on and so rather than just trying to get any kind of rest. They're getting the rest that they need in the area that they're having the biggest deficit. Something else in your book That i appreciate that you talk about. Is your experiment number six. Ask for help. Tell me about that experiment. So this one is huge for those who struggle with asking for help which is most of us my message is this when you have decided that your worthiness is a human being is based on your ability to get more done by yourself than you will struggle for Forever with this but if you can reorganize yourself so that you're worth feels inherent and you're no longer trying to prove something by all the things you can do by yourself. And you know you're worth is inherently your strength of self. Is that strong than asking for help. Become so much easier because it no longer. is a hit against your value as a human and a lot of struggle with this. Because we think it's a sign of weakness but my invitation to you is a new belief which is asking for help or needing help is not a sign of weakness. It's a sign of being human. None of us were meant to do all the things by ourselves. And you're like getting into a special room in heaven. View did more alone. That's just a recipe for being tired and lonely like literally. You're not getting anything from that. So i wrote a lot about asking for help because they think So many people struggle with it so many my dear friends struggle with it. I actually wrote that chapter. It was the longest chapter. It's been edited but the first version of it was twenty five thousand words which was a full third of my word count guarantee with my publisher and i wrote it for with this one dear friend of mine in mind Because she had struggled so much with it. And i just wrote it as a love letter to her to please like let go. And let the support and it's been really beautiful To witness heard dismantle the arm or she was wearing around her worthiness and her independence. And how much that was her. Identity as. that's been shifting She so much happier because she's able to let in the support and what we really need as humans is more connection not more independence and when we ask for help. We're much more able to than gives help when it's needed because we're not running on empty. I kind ask earlier. But now i'm just going to okay stack rank based on the data set. Okay granted the people. Come to your website so you go to rest quiz dot com in your already self selecting as someone who does not a random sampling of people But you go there of the people who decided to go there. Get order okay. Number one number two number three number four in terms of which kinds of of rest people need the mouse. I know the secrets. Yes number one has has always inconsistent consistently ben mental. Rest at us number one at a state jumped up even higher after cova. I a large flexible people come in after kovin it has consistently been the highest one. I'm following that has been emotional and then following that has been Social those are the top three so a mental emotional social what the other ones. Oh as far as how they fall out yeah the wind up potentially be the lowest is is can always been physical and i think because we all know. We need physical fast. You know we all know that we need sleep. And i think the that tends to be the lowest as far as the one that people have a deficiency in so the ranking is usually it's mental emotional social and then following that it's a tie normally between sensory and create a yoga anita. I discovered because of my postpartum insomnia. it is a it's a it's a deep meditation. That gets your brain into a state of deep relaxation. Where you're not asleep but you're also not really conscious and they say the people who have studied it that twenty minutes of yoga knee dra actually gets you the same were stored of benefits of three hours of sleep and for people who are having sleep disruption insomnia or waking up a million times a night or whatever it is they are able to get themselves able to sleep normally by doing yoga neater. So it's a guided meditation where you lie down and it's fifteen or twenty minutes and you know somebody walks you through it either in person or on an audio and it is a very profound experience of restoration and relaxation in an incredibly efficient way like for me. Ten million times more effective than taking an so. You use a guided meditation. And there's a bunch of them online on that you can get to find. Somebody's voice that you like. That's the trickiest part knowing the changes in the type of rest you need urban just having this map which is something that i didn't have to to count all of those things as rest. I think it's really meaningful and so thank you for doing the work and then doing the wiz do enough research and again it's rest quizzed dot com and we don't have any like financial affiliate or any of that kind of stuff. I just think it's a cool idea. And so it listening. Go check it out and you should also read state. Rest if this makes sense to you. It not about sleep. I love sleep packing. It's something different kate. Yearbook is a wealth of knowledge. I don't think it's just for moms in business. It's for anyone who wants to focus on doing less. But i think your Your perspective as a mom of relatively young kids ended entrepreneur serves as a crucible for the high demand times of life. Which is what makes you able to write the book so that thank you for for creating it and sharing it your your website where people can find more about your book and more about you is kate. Northrop dot com k. A. t. e. r. t. r. Up dot com. Kate thanks for being on builds radio. Thank you so much for having me. Bulletproof radio was created a hosted. By dave asprey the executive producer darcy. Himes podcast assistant bev. Hamson podcast is for information purposes. Only statements and views expressed on this podcast or not medical advice. This podcast including dave aspirin. 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Health Anxiety, Vaccines and Making Sense of Medical News  Dr. Jen Ashton with Dave Asprey : 830

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Health Anxiety, Vaccines and Making Sense of Medical News Dr. Jen Ashton with Dave Asprey : 830

"Hi you're listening to bulletproof. Radio with dave asprey. Today's going to be a fun conversation. That ought to be able to stay up on itunes so talking about the new normal with abc news chief. Medical correspondent jennifer ashton md or as. She's commonly known chen doctrine. Welcome to the show. Thank you david so good to be with you. This is a cool episode. Because we've got about fifty people from the upgrade collective in our live audience. And i'm going to ask them for questions during this show and at the end brings them on live. And if you're listening is going what. The heck is upgrade collective. This is my mentorship and membership group. Which you just pay a monthly fee. But i have a whole team if you answer all of your questions about biohacking and all of that and i participate as well with weekly calls and it's been huge amount of fun so that means i get to actually look at all the people they get early access like the so if you wanna be a part of the community. Our upgrade collective dot com. Now let's get into it because your book. The new normal came out in february. And we're recording this. Oh about three four months later. What has changed from when your book. I hit the market and now because things are moving so rapidly. Is there anything that you saying. I wish i'd have said that if you're longtime listener you probably heard one of the early bull prio podcast featuring andy nihilo from alatorre natural skin care. If you haven't it's quite a story. He was in a hidden as a pedestrian and it almost killed him shattered. His job broke his ribs and left him unrecognizable though. He is a model and actor unhappy with the skin care products. He was finding on store shelves and trying to heal really really quickly. He went full on bulletproof and started using himself to heal his own scars as a guinea pig. And he source ingredients from all over the world and talked about what he had done to heal to the point. He could work against six weeks after having major surgery on his face and that led to the creation of seventeen different alatorre products that earned four awards over six years and he launched it on bulletproof radio. I've been using this product since they were created. I've seen a huge difference in my skin from the altar align. Your skin is your largest organ. And i think you want to protect nurse with alatorre go to alatorre naturals dot com slash shop use code dave twenty to get twenty percent off that's a. l. t. u. r. a. naturals dot com slash shop. Use code dave twenty to get twenty percents off. No so that's actually one of the fun things you know the story behind the story if you will is You know for those of your listeners. Who don't know me. I'm the chief medical correspondent for abc news. Which is the number one news network in the country. And i'm my medical specialty is women's health. I also have a degree in nutrition. Which i'm a big fan of yours and Really admire the work. You've done in your books but from the start. This pandemic a my job as chief. Medical correspondent was to Kind of interpret and analyse in decipher the news headlines of this pandemic and then reported on live television in seconds. Or a minute to millions. Millions of people and so i've been living breathing eating sleeping dreaming unfortunately all things go of it For a year and a half and when My publisher came to me and asked me to write the new normal It's my six book. And you. And i were chatting before we went on. You know writing a book is kind of For all the women listening lake having a baby being pregnant in than having a baby like it sounds good and then you get into and you get really into it and then at the end you're a little sick And then you have to raise it. Who is gonna child And the reason that i loved actually the work of writing this book is because i found that in covering this pandemic if really was more about communication or as much about communication and how to explain medical and scientific concepts to the world into the country so that people can really use that information rather than just reiterate the fact that when the book was written was true and now is not true. So every single thing i put in. The book is for the most part timeless for exactly the reason that i knew the book was coming out. In february i finished writing it in september. I didn't want the content to be dated. And i knew that we were still going to be living with this virus and that it wasn't going to magically disappear so really that i explain in the book you know obviously there are multiple levels to it but i really designed so that anyone reading it could kind of glean these lessons of as i call how to think like a doctor which is what we're taught in medical school but you don't need an md after yearning to learn that those concepts then anyone who reads it will be able to take the latest headline because it is still evolving and incorporate that for themselves. One of the things that i appreciate about you is that you're actually a practicing doctor. Even though you have a pretty hard Hard work on. Gm may three you wake up in the middle of the night. As long as i can tell to do all the reporting that you do but you still see patients right Do you think that changes your perspective in your reporting to say yeah. This morning i saw someone with covid. And i saw this or is there a of a line. A firewall between the two now. And i'm so glad you brought that up and thank you for for mentioning that and and for being aware of that i I do have a medical practice. That i started fifteen years ago And i had many many patients who had covid over the last year and a half. I have many patients who tragically lost both their parents to covid So this wasn't just you know as i like to say i'm not quote just a doctor on tv. I take care of real patients and in my medical specialty. You know have to deal with everything from anxiety. Depression skin problems weight problems hormonal problems. I just diagnosed to patients with cancer in the last. Two weeks You know fertility issues. You name it. that's what you know. The field of women's health involves And i absolutely feel that what i do for. Abc news and gm. Three makes me a better practicing having real patients and being a real doctor. Practice makes me better on the air. There's no question And i i think to bring it to the pandemic example. I think that there were a lot of really smart. Doctors and public. Health officials who i think missed the mark on communicating a lot of the information in the pandemic because they don't take care of real patients anymore and i think that when someone does you know interact with a real person. It changes their approach as communicators of medical information because it becomes very real. This is not abstract. It's not. I'm not just talking to a camera talking to real people Just as i do in my office end. I definitely feel that that helped me. It helped us at abc news a lot. When i sort of dig deep on your book. The new normal is really a book about resilience. Like oh you have to be tough enough to handle at life brings your way your things you should do for it. What how do you balance being resilient with. I'm gonna use a charge word here with hiding it is. You're supposed to stay home for two weeks so that we don't overwhelm the er and some morphed into never leave your home until some vaccine or until something happens where some people were home for. Six months never saw someone. Which isn't what. I thought lockdowns did. How do you have that conversation with the patient or with millions of people on your show. You know there's risk but there's also reward at at petty bring people out of the fear mindset. Well you hit the nail right on the head. Which is and i have a whole chapter about this in the book. Which is i go through how to stratified risk. You know my job as a doctor as a healthcare provider is to interpret analyze information And discuss it with a patient in actually do something that is almost unheard of today which is respect their decision. I a principle called patient autonomy Even if it goes against what i would do personally. I know really novel concept in patient autonomy. Is that legal. I know. I know it's crazy so you know. I think that that doesn't happen a lot today. And when when someone let's say you gave the Example of a parent with a child who's thinking of vaccinating their child lagat parent and i that have vaccinated by children. But i hear from a lot of people while the risk of death is so low for kids and my answer to that is what you said. Which is there are worse things than death in medicine and so that shouldn't be the litmus test for every decision we make you know is whether or not something to kill us. It's quality of life. It's what are the risks of long term damage with this virus or with a treatment or has or those are the things that have to be discussed not just life or death. A tell me more about patient autonomy and and how that is when you have this sort of politically correct medical decisions. We have standard of care. That's forced by insurance companies. Sometimes how do you sit there calmly when a patient says. I'm gonna do something that you as a doctor. Thank as bad. You know what crazy. Well i think you know. This is something that we are taught formally in medical school which is these biomedical ethical concepts and the one of patient. Autonomy is a big one. You know this is the other way of saying that is. This is not a dictatorship. This isn't the dark ages where some doctor comes in and issues mandate or an edict. And you know the patient has just mindlessly follows it or is forced to follow it. And you know i learned this firsthand when i was a resident and in obgyn it's a surgical sub specialty. I operated on many many patients. Who whose religion was jehovah's witness and they don't accept blood products and you know i counsel them on their options and the risks of death if they don't Accept blood during surgery if they were to have a hemorrhage the risks a other than death that could happen to them and you know at the end of the day. I respected their decision period. That's that's my job is not to make a judgment on someone's decision And it's certainly not to kind of get angry at them. If they decide to do something That that i don't do that. I wouldn't recommend You know. I just don't think that's modern era medicine and it's definitely not marin era medical ethics. So i think that what we're hearing in the media. Unfortunately is you know just kind of this. Yes absolutely from public health standpoint from a global public health standpoint for example there is this push to vaccinate the entire world. But you know. I think what we're not hearing enough. Is that if if after getting the right information a person decides not to get vaccinated. We have to respect that decision. Even if we don't agree with it. And i wanna be clear again as i said i vaccinated. My children. Got my vaccine very early with my hospital. I believe in the vaccine. I recommend the vaccine. But guess what i am. I also respect the people who don't wanna get it on. Nakad cast them aside and not give them my medical attention because they've made that decision and i don't think we're hearing unfortunately that side enough. I really respect. He's saying that there's a big rush to judgment at companies like amazon or putting a little green dot on your badge if you're vaccinated and you don't have to wear masks. But everyone else does so the mask becomes sorta like the scarlet letter so hearing trustworthy doctor saying look people have a right to make their own decisions and you don't know someone might have a medical condition like auto immunity where there's extra concerns so happy medical freedom patient autonomy and just being behind that thanks for standing up for your patients rights and i think that it takes a special kind of care giver. Save your welcome one question for you can get these three different kinds of axes in the us. And you can get the pfizer. Moderna or the johnson and johnson. And i'm wondering which of them gives me the least risk of bill gates controlling me with five g and magnetising my brain. So here's the thing. What if there is a way to change the bacteria in your gut so that they would help you better. Control your blood sugar since your blood. Sugars tidier how you age how you are in all sorts of metabolism. You wanna do this. It turns out. There's something called palim glucose control which is a new probiotic. That was just released. That is the first microbiome intervention. That's designed for people with type. Two diabetes is a probiotic that restores. Your body's natural ability to manage blood. Sugar spikes pendulum glucose control. Improves your microbiome. Basically your second brain in a different way so that now your body's making stuff that you want on board naturally i take it and i've noticed improvements in energy improvements in gut health. It's gonna do one thing to really live a long time. Managing your blood. Sugar should be really high. On your list you can learn more at pendulum. Life dot com. Sign up for membership and use my code. Dave twenty and saved twenty bucks on your first shipment that's pnd l. u. m. life dot com and again. I think you and your listeners will hear you know my philosophy of common thread here in terms of this you know. There's certainly no shortage of conspiracy theories out there with respect to the pandemic and that includes vaccines people like bill gates tony et cetera et cetera. Okay first of all. I do find all of those theories interesting by the way i just literally have had very little time to do a deep dive into the theories because i'm too busy reading the science about literally how this virus is affecting people's bodies and another way of saying that is. I'm more focused on the imminent future rather than the long term future So again at risk. Stratification it to me is. I want to protect myself short term. And i'll worry about the ship And the microchip Etcetera down the road after we get through the su- nami that were that were facing But i think that again it comes down to what are the risks. We know about versus the risks. We don't know about end. Look there's endless lists of risks that we don't know for sure about You know and i can very easily go down those roads myself. If i had the time to do so i just try to keep myself more focused on the the hard assets if you will which is data facts. What's going on right now. And what's on the horizon. As i see it rather than getting decades ahead of myself into the what ifs and unknowns because there's actually a nut quite enough to do a deep dive in when you just look at the logistics and the science and the data that we have you know that's not to say that there isn't you know other things to ponder I just think that you know. Then you get into this gram of will. What's the endpoint. I mean where does that stop you know. And i only have so many hours of the day to digest things to learn things to Keep up with things and a lot of that. Time is based in the heart asset world of science not theoretical world of the. What ifs But you know that's kind of my feeling and you know even someone. I work with in my medical office. Said well this is a. She actually thinks that there is an element of control here. And i said what bring it on at amazon already knows everything about me for my buying habits so if someone wants to know more go ahead i mean it's already that trust me they don't need this To do that so That's kind of my tongue in cheek but seem pretty serious about how i feel about it. Actually it's really pragmatic saying you're already have almost no privacy. And we just don't know it and as a guy who worked in the computer security industry and engineers. It makes me angry when people say there's nanoparticles. Therefore it will be tracking your health and sending it up via satellite I was cto of a health tracking company from the risks and before that a sick on cardiac monitor and that's just garbage science like stop it. You're discrediting people who might have a point the g. The pharmaceutical industry is making a lot of money by fanning the flames of fear. That's a real thing and aliens with lasers controlling their thing is probably not real and if we can sort those out we might have a conversation about all the money back from the pharmaceutical companies. Which would change everything. But that's not the conversation having because we're focused on aliens. So i i would love to see a little bit more rigor when we look in the future and that's at bad people do bad things and sometimes good people do bad things because they have bad data which leads to our next question. How do you know that the data you're getting is good data. Well you know all we can do is rely on what are really the bastions of medical and scientific literature and that is the biggest peer review medical journals in the world and how their vetting process occurs. And i'm gonna go back cite and example for your listeners that i'm sure you remember from the last year which and by the way so where. What are those sources. New england journal of medicine the lancet jama british medical journal. Those are really the big ones right. nature science magazine. You know An organizations like world health organization and cdc. Are they perfect any of those that. I just named absolutely not. And in the last year we saw retraction by the new england journal and I think it was the lancet. Actually if i remember correctly on a covert related article which they pretty much in short order found out were were discovered that the methodology of the research was flawed. Or not up to their standards and they retracted the paper That is how it should work. That is reassuring that there is a vetting process that you can't just submit something to the new england journal of medicine or jama and have it be published You know these are the freemen medical journals in the world and their editorial board Is you know very very selective of the most Credentialed experts and they have a very rigorous standard to get something published that was expedited in the last year and a half because of the pandemic but if they felt something didn't meet their standards they retracted it or didn't publish it so And we saw that happen. And i was glad to see it happen But that is really where where we go for our sources on. Abc news as the largest news network in the country. And personally i go directly to the individual doctors. That are making these statements or writing these papers so i am speaking to the cdc director. Dr rachelle linski personally. I'm speaking tony Personally deborah berg the surgeon general et cetera et cetera. I mean this is what that level of news media access gets. You is the individual themselves who authored the paper who did the research The ceo of the pharmaceutical company. Who can tell me about the clinical trials and not just the press. Release and you know. Are they perfect sources. Nothing's perfect but there are as good as it can be one of the things that hit the news lately. In fact facebook allows you to talk about a now so it must be real Is whether or not. The krona virus may have been engineered in some way by humans. And i'll be out guys. I'm not an expert in this. I don't actually know. And i don't think i'm qualified to really judge that am qualified to listen to experts but i also have our time listened to an expert who may have been involved in creating it by funding labs and things like that. I can ask questions because it's my show in. It's a relatively small podcast. You're on a big show. If you ask hard questions of big names they might not come back. How do you navigate that where you have a big relationship. Your news network. Does anyone ask hard questions. Do get to the point where you can't ask hard questions or do you just do it. Anyway I would say we definitely don't get to the point where we don't ask hard questions but we do it and we do it anyway but we do it. In a way that reflects the years years of practice An experience that we have in doing that. So that we You know you're right. We if we side swiped someone. Dave wouldn't come on our program again and therefore millions and millions of people would lose the opportunity to hear from that person in the future So that doesn't help people But there is a way. You know what i can't speak for. I'm not speaking for the network. I'm not speaking for my colleagues at the network. I can only speak for myself. Which is that you know. I do my research before. I speak to one of these people and interview them. Whether it's on the record on the air or off the record and because in the field of network news journalism medical journalism communication. There are ways that. I know to ask the question where i can get at the answer or the information that i wanna get at without being offensive or without embarrassing. You know anyone. That were interviewing. And i think that that's the skill and the the expertise and experience that comes with having done this job for fourteen years And you know it is. It's a very tricky line to walk. Because again there is no The people who are on our programs our guests. They're not paid by the network so you know day. Sometimes they have an agenda and it's our job journalists to get at the information that we feel is important and that people need to know and not necessarily just you know we're not there to give someone an organization or a company an infomercial. I think your reporting has been really credible. And you do a great job of staying in the middle and not doing. The polarized kind of news that's characterized the whole pandemic. Thank you genuinely for having that skill when resume asking i've interviewed you injured lara logan. I'm working on being a better. Call me a type of reporter. If you do interviews for thousand podcasts. You have to develop something. So i'm asking that in part from my own thing because i don't want to swipe sideswipe guests. I knew it's rude. You can be kind and get to answer. You can be a jerk. Wear so many reporters jerks. I don't think at the network level there. Are that many jerks who are reporters to be honest with you. we've been too long and You know that's the top of the pyramid in terms of of news journalism or or media journalism right now But it it's not easy. It is not easy and You know we we don't even though it looks like we're out there alone were not. We have teams of producers and We have a whole legal department at every network that you know. That's the people who show up on our on our air and on our network and our platforms and make sure that facts are checked end. That things are done Up to the highest journalistic standards but it. It's not easy. Sometimes you know and And i think that part of the reason why every network has doctors on as journalists it is because it's literally like being fluent in a language. So when i interviewed the ceo of pfizer. I know certain questions to ask him doctor to doctor. That of regular correspondent or anchor or producer doesn't know right that's that's why. Abc has me there And i also know had read between the lines on the answer. So that i can tell. Is this a cancer. That's part of a press release or is am. I getting at something. That's that really hasn't been uncovered yet because the only people have been asking about. This are not md's and so. that's where. I feel most useful to the network and therefore to the viewing audience. I've been dying to ask a doctor. This question is my vaccine status protected by hicfa you know. I think that's not really a doctor question. That's a legal question and it is true. I mean it's you know. I believe that most stories that are in the news today and this is no different can be seen through. Medical lands or illegal lands or financial lens are sometimes all of the above and this is definitely in all of the above so you know there have been editorials written already now by lawyers by doctors by sociologists who are saying no. We do have a right to ask people their vaccination status because this is about public health not your individual personal health. Now i don't have an opinion on that because as you know i stay in my lane And thank god. I'm not making policy about this. Really happy about that but You know i don't remember we haven't really been in this situation before so i think a lot of this is being figured out in real time and I don't think we know yet. I think it's tv to be determined. That makes a lot of sense. I feel like if it's okay for public health to ask about vaccines. We also should for public health. Be asking about what you've been eating for the last year and how much you exercise and then your employer in your insurance comfortable full access to things that affect public health. I think it's a slippery slope and worried about it We'll we'll see what happens. I know you studied nutrition. That's a part of public health too but we haven't touched yet. All this leads to the seventh chapter of the new normal Your book it's about eighty and so people have anxiety about joy have to disclose my vaccine status. Will my kids be shamed. If they do or don't get a vaccine depending on where they go to school. What do health fears do your actual health. Because you have a whole chapter in the book about. What is your fear doing to your health. Well listen fear. Fear in its worst case scenario can be paralyzing right. I mean we see it all the time in medicine People who are afraid to know the answer to know the results to take a test to go to the doctor and some of that. Fear is well substantiated and well-founded and sometimes it's not but it does it automatically. It doesn't really matter does it. Because it's still fear and if it holds someone back from doing something than it's harmful Not all fear is harmful though right. I mean i think you are. I would be afraid to jump into a shark tank. you know. Afraid to go into lakers Walking lion Zoo like that. That's appropriate fear But sometimes fear is not appropriate. And it's not helpful. I think that we're starting to see some degree of that with general kind of health and wellness behaviors. That have kind of always been percolating. I think under the surface but certainly in the last year and a half with the pandemic They've really kind of bubbled to the surface. Is there something that you recommend any of six steps in the in that chapter of your book about how to deal with health anxiety but is one step that stands out. Some new recommend listeners. Could do if they're worried about getting or not getting the vaccine or getting or not getting coronavirus or getting or not getting insert name of medical condition. What can you do to turn the fear down since you're listening to radio you're probably passionate about learning how to take control of your biology and your life. Hey that's the definition biohacking right. That means that you'd be interested in the human potential coach training. This is a program designed by myself alongside human potential teacher and physician. 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That's what the human potential institute is all about. And i'm so pleased to have been able to put this together over the last few years with dr mark. Check it out. Human potential institute dot com. Well i think one of the most important things in the book in in the sense of those kind of chapters that i can take people through as had pandemic prude's themselves And their their circles does have to do with diet nutrition which you know. Obviously i know is an area that you feel super passionately about as well because i think this pandemic really was a glaring example of how we really have to be ready for anything you know. No one could have expected or anticipated that we would be in this situation while infectious disease expert have been expecting this but of course no one really listened to them but you know certainly in december of two thousand nineteen if someone had said oh guess what in a year. This is the situation. We're going to be in. People would have thought that person was crazy and but in fact here we are right and what i think we can all agree to. Is that in the last year and a half whether we were you know sheltering in place working from home on lockdown lost their job working more hours than we normally do whatever that everyone. It was a stressor a major stressor to our lives physically and mentally and in times of stress. The the fuel we put into our body which is what we eat or nutrition or lack thereof literally is it. it's the pavement for how we respond to it. Another way of saying that to to incorporate not nutrition in what we eat but fitness in how we move is say to people all the time. Look we're very superficial society in culture and certainly putting myself in there as well vanity kind of like rules the roost in all of us want to be in shape because of primarily because of how we look right externally but i like to remind people that we should probably also spend a few moments regularly thinking like. You know what it's not just about vanity. It's about being prepared for battle literally right. So what do i mean by that. I mean if you get into a car and you're in a car accident you better believe that your state of fitness. The second you have that accident is going to determine how quickly or if you recover at all. That's not about the the number on the scale that's not about how define your arms look in a tank top. This is about how you how fit and healthy you are on the inside. And the fact of the matter is we. Don't plan for car accidents. We don't plan for pandemics plan for heart. Attacks strokes cancer diagnoses but the condition. Where in when all of those things happen to us is predicated by what we eat. How we move. And how we rest. And i think if we look at that like we should always be in training to go to battle. We would be more resilient we would be in a better place and that doesn't mean we have to be perfect but it does mean that you we're always prepared. That always prepared highly. Resilient state that that's why i named one of my companies Bulletproof from it's at feeling that i've got enough energy to handle whatever life brings my way. It's it's resiliency and hearing you talk about it in the context of a car accident of any stressor. That's unpredicted well. That that's what we're all working on building and that's ultimately what your book was about. When i read between the lines. The new normal is you should be highly resilient and used be healthier than you were before because the pandemic really highlighted the fact that If i have a four point six co morbidity is maybe it's not gonna take much more to push me over the edge. What did you think about a couple of questions from our studio audience. Yeah i would love it all right. Let's do it. Tina you ready to ask a question We're going to have chris patch in abby. Thank you so much. This has been really really interesting. Really appreciate you being here. You actually touched on. It's already but i like to ask a little bit more detail. We we saw early. In the pandemic that people with metabolic syndrome type two diabetes obesity etc. Were much more risk. And you touch. Just now about nutrition and resiliency. Why do you think the message did not get out. That people should take charge of their metabolic health. Now they might not have been able to lose one hundred pounds in two months. But we've been in this year and so much of that could have been turned around and instead we're hearing have a crispy cream donuts when you get a vaccine so i don't understand why that message didn't get out more than it did. Well first of all thank you for your kind words and you are one hundred percent correct and If you or. I knew the answer to that really than we would. We could give tony foudy arrest or you know We could be leading the world on this or at least the country's response in a in a better way but i think the heart of it is look. There's there's only two components to that equation. There's the message the messenger right for the most part. You know you can say three if you include the person who's receiving them message but the message is what you just said that. This is our wakeup call. And it's been a big one and it's been allowed one. Which is this virus just like many other diseases like many other pathogens does not like People who are super healthy other way of saying that is. This virus has a field day with people who are overweight obese. Or you know. Come into their exposure or infection with metabolic syndrome or insulin resistance rate. So that's the message the messenger. Unfortunately i think more often than not had a way of delivering that message. That was either demeaning or insulting or patronizing or full of blame accusatory and again. It goes back to dave's one of his first questions to me. Which is that. I still see. Patients Anyone who takes care of real patients knows that the second you blame or accuse or barade- that's it like you've lost. You have lost the battle. You will not get that person to do the behavior that that he or she needs to do or should do for their health because who would respond to that right. This is like kindergarten. Teaching one one. It's like coaching philosophy. One oh one. It's the same thing in medicine in public health so i think that the messengers could have been better. I think the message could have been more clear right Lastly to to be fair. The person receiving that message needs to be open to it right. But i put that a distant last. Because you know i really like. I don't know if you guys have heard. It's one of my favorite sayings. But and i talk about it in the book which is be careful when you point a finger of blame because there's usually three fingers pointing back at you so you know we can blame someone for being overweight or you're going to eat a crispy cream donuts but what about the fingers pointing back at us. We not done. What have we failed. You know to this end. And so i think that that's the way i look at. It is by looking holistically or three hundred sixty degrees at all three really of those elements and kind of do a debrief and say what what was done. What could have been done better. What do we still need to do. Thank you so much. I really appreciate that vegetarian. Tina let's go to aj whole thanks. dave the question i had. Is you know. Recently they changed the cova death to covet death with I mean death with colbert and Death by cove it. And why did it take so long to make this change. Because i really felt that in the beginning this really created a crisis. People were so scared because the numbers seem so huge and now they've delineated into two categories. Well first of all the short answer your question is. I don't know why a did that number one. I don't know who did it. I don't know why it took so long. What i can tell you. Is that the the way that we characterize aggregate this type of medical and public health data in this country. Talk about something. That's in critical condition. This is what is a big one end. in fact it put us as you Intimate behind the eight ball from day one because we can't address a problem until we have an accurate picture of how big the problem is and when one hospital or region or state is you know filling out their death certificates one way and another is filling out their death certificates another way and the computers or people who aggregate that data are looking at apples and oranges. It's impossible to get a real picture of what's going on now in terms of the clinical background to that. I will tell you as a doctor who has filled out death certificates. Before when i was in when i was in my residency that the tap box which always gets checked off is cardio pulmonary arrest right now. Why is that. That's because what happens. When someone dies their heart stops and their lungs stop raid so a lot of times the person filling out the death certificate will check that box because a it's accurate right but be it's at the top so they'll check that than you know. Maybe they'll go to some other substances down the hemorrhage they'll check some other boxes on death certificate and then again how that piece of information is analyzed. There could be kobe there but that hers. That might not have caused the cardiac arrest right. You can have co bid and also have a stroke. Sometimes they're related. sometimes they may not be related and that complicates our ability to get a good grasp on numbers. You're absolutely right and this isn't the first time we've seen that by the way we've seen that with maternal mortality crisis in this country over the last twenty years where pregnant women would die and they would have a hemorrhage or kill themselves or die of cardiac issue end pregnancy. Wouldn't even be on the death certificate. So how do we know how many pregnant women are dying because they died of suicide not of pregnancy but they happened to have been pregnant and it's a massive massive problem and in my book the new normal i talk about silver linings of of the things i talk about is that we have got to get our. It in this country up to speed as we say in the hospital real fast because we we were behind coming into this and it affected our ability to respond to this pandemic in an appropriate way. That response appreciate that thanks. Jj the that whole section you book on silver linings was awesome. I teach people to focus on gratitude even if things are a total disaster. Hey you're still there to look at the disaster so there's something to be grateful for right I thought you did a great job of saying. Here's some things that are going to come. That are positive from this. This isn't a pollyanna perspective in the book at all. It's just one saying look. We now have awareness where we didn't so pay attention to that because that helps the turnoff things eighty thought. You nailed that part of the in particular. Thanks dave i mean i do. I do really believe. I do believe that when we are emotionally fatigued or frustrated or frightened because of uncertainty You know that. That kind of i call it. The attitude of gratitude is really important but also. A scientific mind is an inquisitive. mind at. It's an open mind and it's one that is always looking to learn from a different angle. A different viewpoint even from mistakes. I mean think let us all think back to when we were in high school and we would have lab you know lab classes in science not every lab experiment Perfectly right. i mean god knows plenty. That did not go as as intended. But you still learn from those errors you learn from those mistakes and medicine. Science and public. Health is a constantly evolving dynamic area. Where if you don't look back and see where you've been learn what went right what went wrong and how you're gonna do it differently. We would be stuck in. You know in one point in time so i do think it is really important to to look at where we've been and what we've learned through the last year and a half and to set our sights on on what will improve in the future and i do think there are a lot of things that will improve your. I'm just a courageous where he said. I'm going to decide to get a vaccine. And i have some listeners. Who saying i would never and other people saying if you don't you're a bad person so all the shame judging stuff i just don't do that and it's dumb but what you said was i have a food allergy. I have some concerns. I've weighed the risks and the rewards. And i've decided i'm going to do it and you it on camera. How did you decide which of the three vaccines get given that. You had an allergy concern. So i didn't decide which of the three vaccines to get at my hospital in englewood new jersey. We got the pfizer vaccine in december january. I was in the second group of eligible physicians and hospital workers So when my time came up I didn't have a choice to say. Well i'd rather wait. Or i really want madonna or anything like that So it was pfizer. That was really the only option. I had and in terms of weighing my risk of an lactic reaction Again it goes back to those four questions. Risk of getting the vaccine risk of not getting the vaccine benefit of getting it benefit of not getting it And then and then. I put in their risk of having an anaphylactic reaction which at the time in december. When i went to get my dose was less than one in a million at that point and subsequently you know i think went to one in ninety thousand with with the pfizer vaccine Anyway i'll i'll roll the dice with those numbers. My risk of getting kovic was much higher. And then as i explained on the air It's not just the risk of getting covert. And as i said to you in the beginning i've really wasn't worried particularly about dying of covid right because if you're dead you're dead. I would like not to leave my children without apparent. But they're twenty one and twenty two and you know day they would be okay. God forbid They would be taken care of if i were to die. I'm more concerned with getting kobe. And getting some long term residual effect. Where i can't use my brain or i have myocarditis and i have heart damage. I'm not willing to take the chances with that And so for me it was again about what is more likely. I put real numbers in those boxes. When i asked myself those questions. And that's why it really wasn't a difficult decision for me to make you know. I had my epipens there. I spoke to my allergist before. He recommended that i take claritin or zertec before. But not benadryl and you know. I got my. I was observed for half an hour after the vaccine in and it was fine but Again it's all about like as you said putting on your seatbelt when you get in a car ride. I mean that's a bigger risk. My risk is probably greater. Driving to get my vaccine than it was of having an anaphylactic reaction and dying of it. So it wasn't a difficult decision for me to make. I love it. That your allergist mentioned the claritin and tech h one and h two histamine blockers. It seems like if everyone had those when they were getting the vaccine they might not feel as crappy for as long. But i've never found a doctor willing to just say it. It's seeing allergists. Brought that up but only in the context of food allergies. Have you heard anything else about that. I don't think that it's known and remember. You know the claritin desert tech those over the counter has to mean blockers There you know if you gave them quota to everyone you would have a certain number of people who would have some kind of adverse reaction just to those medications and then you would have to be able to justify. Is that small risk worth based on how low. The risk is of allergic reaction. And that's why these recommendations may go on doctor patient and yes. I did consult my doctor. I'm not. I don't take care of myself But they're not wide sweeping reckoned dacians for that reason is they. They haven't studied two hundred million people yet to be able to make that judgment and the final thing has nothing to do with your new book. The new normal and has nothing to do with the pandemic are corona virus. It has to do with your medical clinic that thing that you do there. Will you run high-frequency electrical current over. Someone's but to make it bigger. Does it work. Oh okay so it's not so you're talking about this. Device called 'em s- cult Ridge is which is a basically high frequency. Magnetic generated muscle contraction. That you can do on the glued. I i really got it for my patients after i tested it out by the way myself personally on my ads they the company or the machine also makes it for arms and legs. But i don't have those Sadly but absolutely it does work. And this is something called the m. sculpt and it's noninvasive. It takes thirty minutes and you definitely feel. It generates thirty thousand muscle contractions in thirty minutes and it's primary effect is to hypertrophy. The muscle is is to build muscle the secondary effect which happens at about four week. After treatment time period is a a loss of fat so it Incites a pop toast in the fat cells and it does work. I'm going to tell you something now. Not on everyone right. It's not gonna take someone who's fifty pounds or more overweight and you know. Give them like a jennifer lopez body. But if you're within like ten pounds to your goal way Will you see and feel a difference. I definitely i can attest to that. It's particularly good for women my age. Who have a little bit of like the as my kids. Call it the food. The fat upper pelvic area from know little baby paunch that no matter how many sit-ups i do i was still having it. That got stuck right in so anyway It's been good people like it. I like it cool. Technology and again risk-benefit. Very low risk. It's a real bio hack. And i love it that you're doing that in your your doctor's office in your clinical practice because a lot of people say oh it's impossible you could add muscle faster than you're supposed to burn fat pastor locally but you can do with magnets. There's all kinds of cool stuff so the fact that you're on the cutting edge doing some of these blacken protocols i think adds to your credibility as someone who's open minded and considering the future and certainly that comes through in your book dr jennifer ashton. Thank you for being a bulletproof radio. Thank you for taking some hard questions and thank you for your expertise in asking. Lots of people. Lots of stuff for a long time. I appreciate you dave. Thanks so much for having me and it was a real pleasure. Sorry for the bad signal issues If you or your listeners wanna stay in touch with me I do run my own instagram at. Dr j. ashton it's not a bad it's not a team it's really me And i love to connect with people that way. So i hope we can talk again in the future. I will share your instagram and links to the show on my channel as well. Thank you bye dave. Bulletproof radio was created a hosted by dave asprey executive producer darcy. Himes podcast assist into bev. 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"When jamie wheeled comes on bulger radio we always get into some mind-bending topics. He's a friend. Who specializes in neuro anthropology. What the heck is that means. It brings the culture biology and psychology into a single field. Jamie is a co founder of the international flow genome project at which i was the first investor and they work on training people for the ultimate human performance looks at the nitty gritty between science and human potential with a lot of precision. And that's why our interview about hypnotic engineering ended up being a multi episode miniseries for you because it was more than would fit in one episode or fit in your head all at one time we pull part is book recaptured. The rapture rethinking god's sex and death in a world that's lost its mind. Jimmy goes to a lot of places you probably wouldn't think about all in search of the flow state things like the fascinating sex survey he conducted with couples or his views on sexy biohacking and nerdy kink. We've got some deep survival circuits and powerful evolutionary drivers when it comes to sex and death and everything in between so if you care about neuroscience and psychology listen to these episodes. You're going to like what you hear proved high performance. You're listening to radio with dave asprey day's gonna be a lot of fun because well we have our live audience from the upgrade collective. Who are here answers to ask some questions for you fultz. We're gonna be talking about a book called recapture the rapture by my friend. Jamie wheel rethinking. God sex and death in a world. That's lost its mind. This is perhaps the hardest title you could ever put on a book that you want people to read as an author who's got only four times bestsellers. I'm like okay rapture. You just triggered half the religious people and do let's put death on a cover like that is the hardest thing so it's harder southern fasting. 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Sugar you can find out more about the science behind blood sugar breakthrough on bulletproof radio episode eight. Oh seven and because you listen to radio you get a special deal. Go to blood sugar breakthrough dot health slash dave use code. Dave ten save ten percent off. That's blood sugar breakthrough dot health slash. Dave yeah funnily enough it. It came to me even before writing stealing fire and i was just like oh shit. That's a rat. Podcast title like someday. Maybe i'll do a podcast. And i'll call it that like recapture the rapture end of time for stellar minds. As i was just thinking like just interviewing fascinating interesting people you know and then After after that and as the world become increasingly strange wobbly it increasingly seemed like The idea that rapture ideologies of all stripes not just fundamentalist religious ones But also techno utopian ones basically anyone's that are one percent solutions that kind of share a sort of underlying structure together those rapture ideologies have been hijacking collective conversation so it felt really really critical like hey we need to reclaim the story of what's happening and way. Do we all go now together because one percent solutions no matter how you slice that one percent are fundamentally sociopathic right. He's like it's the elect and it could be the elect that's marlin ethical or spiritual the true believers. it could be the meritocratic. The best and the brightest it could be the ones with financial resources but however you cut it the the rest of us need a story for us to live into and that's really important. It is important. And that i should share some of your background with people on. You're one of the founders of the flow genome project guys in for the second annual biohacking conference years ago to help create some of the experiential things which may or may not have involved one person doing to somersaults unintentionally through the air landing on a vendor's table but everyone was ok amazingly talented football player. Yeah it was It was an unintended thing. We were creating a flow state by creating a unusual swings. And you guys have been studying flow state For a long time. And i started the first backer of the flow genome project way back in the day. And you've been studying engineering. Since i've known you which is probably what eight years now. But no one knows what. Donna engineering is. But it's basically neuroscience plus optimal psychology. And you've clearly got a big brain and you've put together some really new thinking for this book which i think makes it it. It'll actually be a really intriguing but relatively intense conversational have because you talk about god sex and death and we're going to try and fit that into an hour hour and change and get into your thoughts on it. How do you fill that into a book. And you you do. We together can artfully. But you're kind of going across all these places. What's the connection between god. sex stuff. We'll have a hat tip to old david data who back in the day once. Said you know those are the only three conversations with having god sex and death. So i actually i. I wrote the title and pitched and sold the book to our our shed publisher at hopper. Wave right With some jim realizes that. I was going to be in that neck of the woods but by the end of the book. I'm like holy shit. I actually kinda did that. You know like actually devoted relatively even treatment to each of those categories because it seemed to me that You know both belief and some sense of all an inspiration were essential. Some sense of ability to heal and mend were non-negotiable just kit for anti fragile humans. Otherwise you take your hits and you get left by the side of the road and a sense of both you know the sort of In a man's search for meaning kind of thing. We're clever monkeys figured out that like here. We are holy shit. Were alive and we have conscious thought and one day we die. And what do we do with that. So what do we do with our kind of existential dread. What do we do with our collective existential crises but even more sort of powerful and beautifully if you can get the the garden sex putt going in particular in a few other. A few key ingredients can we. Can we die and be reborn a second time right. So can we. Actually you know in a twenty-first-century contemporary way. Not bundled tons of mythologies. Can we actually unpack and revive the death rituals. That were true and indigenous shamanic traditions. They were true in the ancient. Greek hallucinogen mysteries pretty much. You look all the way all around the world. Death rebuts di di di before you die was one of the kind of like deleting facebook. Yeah exactly it's stock. That's a start. And and that idea. That and i didn't realize it until i read the book but i was like holy shit. Actually what i was able to assemble from all these fascinating. Researchers and scientists around the world is actually the nearer physiological protocol plus or minus. Not everybody on all the levers all in the same way but pretty much the nearest science behind the most ancient initiate tori mystery practices that humans have invented. Which is that death rebirth practice. This is important stuff. Rights passage have been taken away from our youth. We used to go through this on a regular basis. Part of becoming an adult. This is the vision quest thing i wrote about that in in fastest way i went on a vision quest either. It felt like it was the right thing to do. Rubber shell dini was just on. Who wrote that amazing book influence and he talks about. Why do we have hazing rituals. Why are they built into our our existence and we can't get rid of them because they're wired in just like sexist wired in and hazing good. It's not accept that it seems to work and it does some things for us society that he wouldn't expect so you you dug in on this and you broke your book into sort of three three things. You've got. choose your own apocalypse. And you've got the alchemist cookbook and ethical cult building. So i thought about it. And i said we could touch on each of those are. We could go deep on one area. This one of the f words alike now in my work. there's four f words that drive all biology. There's in order this. This works for bacteria it works for whales. It doesn't matter what you are doesn't matter if your tree a number one fear run away from killer. Hide from scary things. If you're not doing that number to eat everything is i'd be feet. Goes like wish the okay okay. Number three is something else. Life has to do to stay around for billions of years. That's also an f. Word that one. Oh it we are we onto the fuck putt. Yet those fertility yes faulk so and then the other one is friend community building and all that so if that's what all life eventually ends up doing i've written a lot about how to disrupt big food started a company that did that and i've touched on fear and a lot of the work somebody neuroscience stuff and avowed podcast about sex right professional dominatrix on The sex don guys. And i think it's time to go into go deeper in what you've written about the sex part of that because some people when they have sex they meet god some people they call it the little death in fact that's one of the kinds of orgasms women can have. So what made you put that in this book though. So we're going to an interview more about sex than anything else because. Hey it's an intriguing concept and. I don't think i've balanced this show enough with that but Why why did you go there. Well i can give you my pr coach dancer. Or i can. I can give you what actually happened. Okay i want both so we can compare truth reality. Well i mean technically this late in the in the bookstore game. And so i suppose i always get a little looser Yeah this in the beginning Well this book is is It was almost as if in fact It's a good friend said. Hey this this. This reads like like alister. Croly hired malcolm gladiolas. His ghostwriter what a great description comes across. Yeah like of really thoughtful heading lately. Non narrative nonfiction. I'm meet all these people and this is going to happen and we're gonna lend these things along the way but that's kind not really how it happened at all It happened 'cause My wife julie. And i came back from burning man one year. At the first time we'd ever gone together and came back and we had a full day and a half before the kids were home from the grandparents so we had our own little decompression party at our house. And we've found ourselves getting sucked down this rabbit hole of experience and it created a series of profoundly non ordinary states and and And information and and it began disclosing itself to us as like. This is what this is. This is how it works. This is how not to do. This is how you can do it and effectively became this auto didactic self disclosing protocol of this. Basically what what we you know could loosely. Call the sexual yoga of becoming and every time we would get into those spaces. I'm like holy. 'cause like my i don't know how you go. I don't know what you do research first. And then you experiment. I usually just like fling myself into life until i get hit and then i'm like okay. What the hell was that about right. So that's that kind of notion of like neuro anthropology like look like find something interesting. Now look back for historical precedent. So you can see it cross across time and cultures and then at the neural level. What is the psychology and the biology underneath the hood of these things that would explain their persistence across time and space. And so that's kind of what we did. And the numbers of time and like the research on delta wave states the research on gas blended static apnea and breathing protocols. All these things came from finding ourselves into an experience that was actually teaching us and so it was a little bit like cooked enterprise. We'd come come out of these state experiences and record them on my phone. And i'd be like holy shit eureka like here's another piece and this went on for about five years and it was just we. We didn't discuss it. We didn't assigned to do it. It literally just is something that happened in our life and then an and after you know. I don't know what thirty forty at collected hours of these these snippets from that domain around that information layer. Like i i think. I think i have to write this down. She's like you're fucking crazy. Don't tell anyone you know and it would show up again and it would show up again. And i'm like no. I think this is the thing. I think i need to share this. And so it Autodidact is the best word. I can come up with self teaching disclosing. And i just did my best to get out of the way and so you asked about the three pots of the book. Which was chooser in. Apocalypse was kinda like situational assessment. Where are we. Why are things wonky. And why aren't we rising to the occasion right now and what you know what all we must. We do so that just felt necessary to provide any kind of shared reality on rant. Get to the outcomes cookbook. Which was the core of what kind of just shown up in our life and and then the ethical cul building piece was just even from writing stealing fire for ago to now it really seemed like we were increasingly in a sort of space of like children's crusade. It seemed like everybody started. you know. Break sticks off bottle rockets and just lighting him on fire and hoping they all go where they're they're supposed to and sure enough. Even in the writing of the book the super spikes in plan democ cunanan all sorts of things that has been wild country with the story of osho on netflix. There's been the nexium story so like celtic tendencies and our yearning for these things all seem to be off the richter scale so even have movies like game changers which is like a super cold right which is not one. That's weird vegan cult movie. Oh yes yes. Yes yes. In fact i think i remember you posting about it didn't you. I just offended a bunch of vegans. Listen i'm sorry. I'm just teasing you. But no there is a kito and there is a vegan colton. And they're both actual colts in in my book always in my belief. Yeah so so. So bottom line is i felt like oh well normally this would be three really good ideas and outright three books milk it over ten years and it just felt like i was like I'm not sure we have ten years to just kind of dolled and dribble things out. And so it felt like I think i need to bundle this and put it all together story that works roads. That explains it a lot Because it's it's tough night. I attempt to do something similar with With my book unrelated. The documentary also called game changers. Where like. I'm in the interview. A lot of smart people and find what they agree with forty something topics and there but it was like if if you're if you didn't want to spend forty years looking at each topic. Vitamin had this book. And i was twenty. What would i do. So i think there's value to readers in having enough things if you can lead them together you do it really nicely in one of the things that i. I've never seen before. That i thought was a value is We've all heard probably the stoned ape hypothesis that oh. We ate mushrooms or some other plant psychedelic and it made a smart long time ago. And i've actually had terrence mckenna's brother dennis mckenna on the show take turns theory and you're saying no no no. It wasn't mushrooms that made a smart. It was sex. How does that work one of the really important parts of biohacking and something. That's made a big difference for me personally. Is light therapy. They company called juve pioneered. 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Apply your funnily enough For starters right. I mean that was food of the gods. That was turns. Put that on the kind of mid nineties and it was always like a definitely tenuous kind of stony late night theory right and and it sort of. I read it underneath out those velvet paintings with black. Yeah and so you know intriguing super cool impossible but yeah maybe just never could be more than maybe and then i started really thinking through and then just did some research and funny enough like jared diamond like the the guns germs and steel. Pulitzer actually wrote a book called. Y sex's fun. And he was one of the threads into this story like what is the evolutionary impact of sexuality on human consciousness and because one of the things i mean i always thought back to like the blue lagoon like that book shields movie from back in the day and it was just that you know. That story was the to shipwreck kids and then they grow up and they fall in love and they get busy and they have a baby and then they kinda get kicked out of the garden and you know the normal puritanical subplot But that idea of like hey hominids primates all animals you know for millions of years with no instruction manual figured out how to get it on and it's not the most obvious thing and so you realize you realize holy smokes that you arrigo That must mean a metric shit ton of neurochemical and and and and hormonal and behavioral incentives to figure this out and so that was the original inquiry and jared. Diamond makes a fascinating. He's like look when we think of the evolution of human consciousness. Most of the time people think about walking upright they think about tool to making fire and language and his idea was like he's like actually you have to consider sexuality because we have an incredibly anthropocentric view of human sex. We just take what we do is normative and what the rest of the animal kingdom does is weird and strange and we watch that on the discovery. Channel or with david Voiceover and he's right and he's like actually it's the other way round. We are freaks not just compared to the rest of the animal kingdom but even compared to our primate cousins. We are so unusual in women who women having full breast even when they're not lactating like that's weird. That's extra muscle mass. It impedes movement fleeing hunting all sorts of things but we have it. Women have shapely hips and additional fat. Storage men have something like four to six times the additional penis length of any other primates aids ethnic guerrillas who were five hundred pounds. It could bench press a house of a one and a half inch. Really you know an and his idea was it's a signaling display. It's a mating display to say. I am so healthy and happy that i can pack ounces of protoplanetary uselessly onto my penis frequent female orgasm all of these thing. Copulation outside of stress or fertility like for animals is not like when hobbes said that you know life is nasty brutish short. It's it's an equally good description of sex in the animal kingdom. You know it's generally speaking. They ignore it until they're briefly consumed by it and you know even something goes away and then it goes away but we are sexually in a radically oriented almost all the time and so the thesis there is like well. You know this loops all the way to rick dublin and the maps. Md may studies right which has been on the show to right which which is holy moly like if you were to introduce a a practice substance or behavior to radically shift hamad consciousness. It would need to be widely available and distributed. Need to be positively reinforcing bright and they would need to create the conditions. You're searching for and you know. Mushrooms grow lots of places but not all places. You guess there's migration there's all these things but you know it's kind of kind of dodgy to hang your entire on that and you realize that prolonged partnership coupling extended sexuality that results in brain change the results. In the cascade of narrow chemistry including proactive as a present serotonin oxytocin dopamine and kind of like all the the big swingers for peak state experiences all arise during during sex quite as an orgasm. So you're like holy moly like that is seemed like a very strong candidate for for persistent and shifted brain state and and Cognitive change over time. So so you're with jared diamond and you think that it was really our experiences we have during sex drove larger brains and that was maybe a more likely candidate than mushrooms. So what does that lead us. Then i know you look at traditional chinese medicine All the old all the ancient practices around the world have a strong sex component that the catholic church is at its best to remove But they're they're still there. If you look at any of the literature any of the old writings yeah. I did like napoleon hill. Their secrets w hind. everybody's yeah. There were three laws in in my game changer. Book around sex and it's different for men and women But that he would know that you. You don't show up as a human being all the way. I was intrigued that you tied the stuff in especially later in a different part of the book. You talk about colds earlier. Mentioned nexium in all and it seems like there's this i'm gonna call it a secret or a hidden world of sex where most people don't talk about it at dinner parties unless it's kind of a dinner party i'm so there's all sorts of hidden things how did you get to that for For reading a book. I mean you talked about your post burning man experience above all kinds of weird sector burning man and i don't mean that in a bad way just that it's you know it's a different different world there. So how did you get enough data to put this avenue book Well i mean there was. There was a you know. As i said i mean it was all told. Probably eight years of Personal deliberate and intentional. Experimentation and mapping and modelling less than doing the research somewhere around the five you mock was like okay. I think this is a functional protocol began sharing it with other couples and saying like stable grounded. Resilient couples who were kind of ready for a next step in their life and then we did a very informal. You can lead. Mastermind is a corny. But like some sort of you know here we are. We're all conducting these experiments in our own lives coming back and sharing and swapping notes. Did you see what i see you know. Did you guys what what results at you guys getting. And then after talking with nicole proceed. The don't tab you had on your show. The canadians did. She said she's read And is one of the more cutting edge sexuality researches that i'm aware of She she was at kinsey haavard than ucla and then started her own. Private think-tank because of all the controversies. But she helped us think through what would the articulation of a dedicated formal study because it was like okay. This stuff seems interesting. Anecdotally subjectively enough. People are having congruent experiences. That yes there's at there but now let's try and measure it and so that's where we recruited a dozen couples for a twelve weeks study on effectively. What was the sort of. Choose your own adventure. He engineering is kind of the big category. Sexual yoga becoming was kind of our placeholder. For the all the bells and whistles and said okay engage in a consistent pretty minimal daily practice together and then there's kind of a mix and match toy box of what else you might want to explore experiment and work with and and then tried to really check like. Hey can we. How would we measure this right. How would we track it beyond just personal subjective reports and so that's when and this is kind of thing like we haven't got to talk about this on a podcast with anybody because nobody likes to go as deep as you do on this stuff but i. This is the thing. I'm most geeked about right. Because the things we were tracking on the. How do we recreate. How do we help mend the meaning crisis right. We all need healing inspiration connection right. The fancy greek terms is you know is catharsis for healing x. for peak states and communities for deep connection and i was like okay. Either this helps those things or it's probably not worth bothering with because it's also volatile problematic. Just let people stick to their knitting and so we picked For the measures we picked Susan jackson's flow scale inventory which basically just measures from day to day. How often are you in a peak state or the zone or whatever you would call. It flows day so that was just easy for people to kind of check along the way for like micro level state change and then we also use the johns hopkins emmy q thirty the mystical experience question. Which is what rolling griffith. I developed to retest the good friday experiment and they've been using one of their benchmarks for all of their suicide research. So that was pretty good. We've got a high in a low measure of how interesting of roman zones you getting into or not and then we also wanted to check healing and so that was the pcl five which is a self administered trauma score the gold standard as the caps scale. Which is administered by psychiatry. So that was kind of a little too clunky for our uses And then also overnight hiv Via were ranked so just having people track that in just saying okay. Yeah yeah and and so basically saying okay What is your accumulated lifelong trauma. As indicated by the five and then also what's your physiology doing day to day week to week over this time period so again kind of a high and a low measure this is a pretty darn structured study of. What would you wanna call it. Ecstatic sex religious spiritual sex. When you call. I cringe at all of those things right exactly i. I don't know the right words. What what's the name for it that you like. Well i mean. I think that like like i said the high level. He don't engineering and the subcategory of this particular practice would be. You know you could call it simply sexual fitness or you could call it the sexual yoga of becoming because that's ultimately what it sort of feels like that was a name that actually some of the participants coined and it was like okay. That seems pretty good. That's a that's a discount because it is deeply embodied involves bodywork and involves fashion integration spinal mobility and. Its bodywork right. And so what we wanted to provide for. People was a an approach to harnessing their sexual and basically they're integrated number system is it just also happens to be sexual is not that it is sexual john lilly. Back in the fifties figure this out. He's like the primate ecstatic. Secretary maps one to one with a sexual reproductive network because nature's efficient and the blue lagoon. We have to start. Nate nature kitchen sink and making sure we make more of us. If there's no human in there. I promise you we're going to run away from things that wanna eat us. We're gonna eat things that are tasty and we're going to have sex like every everything alive does that they have to. So yeah it. It's in their exactly. And and so you know and it's also critical to acknowledge the profound amount like evolution is a moral. It doesn't give a ship who stood up beside and what we promised until death do us. Part and like we're just know by our default setting is to puppets on the string of an indifferent and utterly amoral evolution and it creates most of our suffering. You know. Helen of troy in wars to to sexual violence and trauma to the voices an infidelity. You name it right. We are just dashed on the rocks of evolutionary infinitive. Unless i try explaining this to my my young teens eleven and fourteen and and you know not not yet in dating. And i'm just saying like seriously people go to war over this stuff and not. How could that be that interesting. Like imagine a piece of cake. That's the most delicious ever that sitting on the table in front of you and you want to eat it all the time. But you're not love you the cake. I'm like what will you do for the cake. And i'm trying to to to express the amount of pressure that's there and helena towards the prime example in in this is how humans are wired. The thing is there's seven billion of us on the planet. You're writing about the god. Saxon death Is there room for all of this ecstatic sexual yoga or are we gonna have eighteen billion people if we all do this. Well i mean. I think that's that's the key to like snipping the strings of evolution so there were no longer puppets because because to acknowledge that is like. I think it's really critical right because none of us calm to our sexual histories and our sexual experience without tons of baggage and one's lot of there's a new medical product town called pendulum glucose control that helps manage type two diabetes by lowering blood sugars bikes and a one c levels. It's the only probiotic you can buy with. Ackerman a strain that's proven to improve metabolism. I take it. And i feel the increase energy go to pendulum. Life dot com use code. Dave twenty to save twenty dollars. I meant when you sign up for membership but just that sense of of hey can we reclaim our Our birthright to be sovereign over our own lived experience. And and can we kind of almost like a judo. Move can you. Can you take all of that. Imperative that has created tons of impulsive trauma and suffering. And can we jumped the tracks and use those very same impulses for our own unfolding for our access to on inspiration for our ability to defragment nervous systems and metabolize grief and four ways to bond in profound in meaningful ways with each other and so the final bit of stay at i laid out the first four metrics right and then the final there vinyl to were communitize. If you're if you're going to spend time with special friend right do you like them more You better connected because anybody who's been in a long term relationship knows that right you know the first two one year to three years hot and heavy absolutely fantastic and once again. That's evolution is saying it's just enough time to conceive justice and wine a small child and all the all the lust and attraction hormones shutdown. You're suddenly in the grind. You got trash kids. You've got school buses. you've got bills. And you know we get into the grind and the seven year each everybody and then then incomes the the lure of infidelity. All these things. So how can we take this most primary in central driver of existence and use it to replenish the well of family units of long-term and hopefully stable partnerships. because the rest of life's kind of a bitch and we have this capacity like our genitals. Let's just take this. In fact you know wilder penfield right the one of the og neuroscientist who came god. God helmet precursors is all that he has the famous idaho on the back. Has this famous. little duty. Calls it the hunky. And it's this weird little human shaped guy who's Who's limbs and appendages are sized based on the number of neurons. They have got really big lips and he's got really big hands and feet right but he missed out. Because it's our junk right That the the glands of a man's penis has seven thousand. An exit woman's clitoris has eight thousand. And is this is the most neurologically dense zones in our entire body. And once you know if you put them together. Lightning happens to your like. Can we do a little bit more of that. A little bit more deliberately and intentionally never mind romance like everybody's in have your romantic relationship but the notion of sexual fitness as an integrated pot of like the human user manual seems really helpful so we also wanted to check. We basically did the intimacy of self and other test which is basically a series of van. Overlapping circles to circles or like this. We don't talk. We don't feel connected at all mild overlap sometimes on a friday night maybe you know and then you know to to complete overlapped. We are one. And we're in full communion so so couples were able to score how close and how far apart they felt and then the panels scale which is one that has been used by a lot of harvard. Researchers the positive and negative affects. We just we just index on the positive half of that and basically said. Do you feel happier. Do you feel more content. So that was the six and then basically just wanted to check that over a long enough to get some meaningful momentum but not so long that you get a drop off in participation in the kind of thing comes unraveled. How much time each day did the participants to do all the things you were telling them to do around sexual yoga. Yeah i mean it was cyclic. So not the same. Every day there was a baseline of fifteen to thirty minutes a day. So that was your first commitment and basically said hey look step number one is simply To commit to sexual yoga as a practice not as romance because for most of us sexuality is either an exclamation point on the different awesome day. Or it's a bugging to dispenser withhold to get something else you want. And that's how most of us that's kind of our default relating to instead go no treat this like push ups treat this like flexing your teeth. I don't wait to floss my teeth because i looked like potsy weber on happy days. Not got shiny paulie on on mcgeehan. I'm gonna floss my today right. I floss my teeth. Because i believe in the long term aggregate benefits of doing so right the same with going to the gym or anything else right so festival move into that category not out of the realm of psycho sexual politics and then once people could do that. Say just hey and this was based on nicole. Proxies research on female orgasm in particular prescription pharmaceutical. So what happens. If a woman has recurring inconsistent neurophysiological erotic stimulation and cannot create some form of shift in her physiology and chemistry. Does that improve mood. Reduced pain decrease anxiety all all the good and happy things so that was the baseline fifteen to thirty minutes a day and then two days. It was for both partners doing it together and then to two days of sixty minutes of sexuality and again. Because you know it's very hard to get anybody to do anything let alone. You're like just track their meals. Let alone something as squishy personal and intimate as sexual practice so we were just everything liberating structures where like. Here's the tool kit. Here's the baseline mix and match as you go report back for yourself and so two days a week of sixty minutes of open sexuality. There were several protocols none none of them delivered. They were all deliberately simple So that people wouldn't you know like try to fancy tango flamenco and then give up that we wanted everybody to feel comfortable and then a ninety two hundred twenty minute session effectively. We couch that as your as your sabbath practice like reclaim a secular status yourself you know. If you think of the old chech- maximum tithing right which was give one gift. Give a tenth of your resources to the It was like okay. Well if we reinstitute that concept of tithing forty days forty hour week. That's four hours. That's half a day. How about sunday morning late late. Just block it or if it doesn't if that doesn't work if you find another time does but that that was the notion and then give yourself anywhere from you. Know ninety minutes to three hours to do a deeper intensive dive and that's when we start layering in the additional elements which could include breath work which could include gas assisted breath work which included with functional medical oversight Different compounds so everything. From nab annoyance to oxygen to jen which is carbon dioxide oxygen blend to oxytocin and even to enter nasal oxytocin and ketamine. And so the the then. That was only a handful of folks that kind of put all the pieces together But the folks that dead Had some profound and powerful experiences. They're like oh my gosh this is this is putting us. Outside of time and space. Into a realm of heightened information and inspiration were able to do intensive and highly effective body work. Were able to low. Take tens loading up each other's nervous systems. Who kind of like a spotter climber situation right lob each other in fact the the best analogy that somebody wrote was it's like the vomit comet that plane but does the parabolic arcs in zero g for thirty seconds. They were like this is just like the vomit comet but you but for the cosmos and the better we get at priming each other so you cultivate but sexual energy sensation pleasure pain all of those things you combine that with breath way and then static apnea with gas assists in those kind of things and then you spend whatever you know a minute to five to ten minutes in this utterly numerous space that typically is only accessed at the peak of heroics Troops sure you're like wait a second. This is household as we call it. The alchemists cookbook. Right it was like how to blow yourself. God consciousness using household materials because my sense of the psychedelic renaissance for instance which you know obviously known love ric dublin eleven support maps But my sense is that is you know it's. It's a big slow moving highly worthwhile project but very expensive. Very clunky subject to capture By regulatory capture and market capture and probably not ever going to be distributed around the world to the bottom four billion. So how do we do that. It is absolutely true that things like a breathing practice And things like advanced sexual practices can put you in altered states. At least as alternate at least in my experiences any hoosen genyk drug puts out there so these are free. They're hard to control unless you just do shame to control them. That's what i liked the amount of rigor behind the science you put out in recapture the rapture. Because you're saying like well let's look at what all this stuff looks like and you go into some of the history two and you talk about a a deke now for people who don't know that that's not a kind of swimsuits. Tell me about dicky's yeah. I mean they were fundamentally coming out of the tibetan buddhist traditions and they were you know they were sort of Skied dancing tanaka's so they they were women. Women adapts who had attained an accent god consciousness and quite often and miranda show. Who was trained at. Harvard has been an independent scholar has written extensively about women in particular tibetan buddhism. Which has these strong shame on contract tantric elements and she actually looked at the secret stories. Actually they were. The ones who switched on first. Bulletproof radio was created. This hosted by dave aspirin the executive producer. Darcy hines. podcast assistant. Bev hamson. his podcast is for information purposes. 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#1368, Dave Asprey, Paleo f(x), Von Eaglin

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#1368, Dave Asprey, Paleo f(x), Von Eaglin

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Put some pictures out on social but we do have a fantastic show today. We've got dave asprey. He's a guy that i've wanted to talk to for years. I'm so excited. He's the founder and chairman a bulletproof three sixty high-performance coffee and food company and also the creator of the wildly popular bulletproof coffee so an incredible new york times bestselling author. He's on at the half. And one of my. My most favorite guests is with us right. Now that's a von eglin. I he hasn't been on. I've missed you von so happy. You're on today but it's good to have you here. So von is a licensed professional counselor supervisor. Then works with two group practices here in the dallas area. He is a certified couple relationship Trainer and sees a wide range of clients addressing men's issues anger management abuse and addiction. Just to name of you. He is also a doctoral candidate at the university of north texas in the counseling and higher education department. His phd research focuses on couple relationships dialogue. And you can find him at preston. Place counseling dot com or. Follow him on instagram at talks. How you doing today von great. I'm good to hear from you. Burn it in talk to you. Yeah it's good to have you back on the air with us. It's been a couple of months but what we're talking about today as rather interesting. I'm not sure we ever talked about the emotionally stunted demand. But but that's kind of funny but i i'm very curious. I can't wait to dive into this. So what are some of the traits of an emotionally stunted man von well. There are a lot of different traits But by and large whenever you're dealing with mostly stunted may and he's not going to have the maturity or the security that other men have and so Along with that. So you're gonna have feels adequacy or you may see them. Try to overcompensate for things or you're gonna see immaturity. There may be a lack of awareness and so because of that There's gonna be some times when he's eagles century you know and again that can be for a variety of different reasons. But you're going to see them be selfish. And when i say they're gonna they're gonna be selfish in there at the end of the day that probably gonna make you do a lot of the heavy lifting a relationship because they lack awareness and the thing about is that they don't know that they don't know you know so. Have you ever met independent yourself. Burn it or yeah i mean. Of course yeah yeah. Some of them have been extremely immature. But but you know what's at the root of it. That's what i always want to know. I want to have a deep understanding of. Why is a man. I'm i'm guessing this is women can be the same way. Let's pick on men. But i know we're focusing on me but you know at the very root of it. What causes it so well from my perspective. There's a lot of things that go into. What makes a person who they are. And you've heard me say this before. The are three things that i believe. Because i do personality. Profiles like myers briggs and Sometimes though she like brain coding and different things like that But from my perspective the first thing that typically make somewhat who they are is they're genetic and make will have a pre so people will have a predisposition for being a certain way like one person may be more organized than another and they just and maybe part of their genetics I can have a client who comes in. Who's prone to being depressed or prone to being an alcoholic prone to having bipolar disorder even anxiety and that's just based on their genetic makeup the second thing that typically makes up someone you know because there's always the nature versus nurture argument I tend to believe that both have a lot to do with What makes somebody who they are and their environment and their experiences will go into Oh what changed the way. They look at life If you go up and environment a safe healthy and happy and very loving then you may believe that the world is a pretty safe place but if you grew up in an environment where things chaotic dramatic. And you can't really depend on people. People are untrustworthy. And then let's say you've been portrayed at various points in your life. Well now you may look at life a little bit different as well so The third thing is going to be your choices. What are you doing what you have you know. How do you play the car. Dick the god is giving you and So so with that argument so what makes someone emotionally immature again. Those could be a lot of different things however what we're looking at is that whenever there's a motion immaturity or if they're emotionally stunted Many times it's going to manifest differently like but it's always about the what you know what i mean because we're talking about the root of something I'm just kind of going on a tangent record. It talked about when whatever client comes in office. You know we see the behavior but the question is what could that be nature. But it'd be nurture but you know we of have to do some digging to kind of figure that out but what is the why so. I'll give you a quick example. Let's say i have four people stay late for work. One person staying late for work because they wanna brown. They want not the boston. Oh that they're the best worker in you know in the whole office. Another person's stays late. Because hey you know what i got a family to feed gotta be a good provider. Another person's as late because they want a new car. Now the person stays late. Because you know let's say christian and they went to work as they you know i do god kinda so everybody's saying late still doing the same thing but the question is what is their motivation. What is the hidden agenda. What is there. What is their motive for whenever they do their thing so whenever someone's getting back to the point whenever someone is emotionally stunted there could be a variety of reasons for instance like if someone has trauma in their background and give you a personal example. Let's say if i had a woman cheat on me. You know we talk about how sometimes cheating can cause trauma and religiously trump. I might become a mostly sunny might become a mostly started because you know You know. I got kinda got stuck in that trauma and so i'm gonna act out on me And this is the true story. Bernadette it voice. Nobody likes cheating but men seem to take it a little more to heart than a woman. Does you know. Yeah so. I'm not here to say you know how people take heart. I will say that for men are our feelings. We have a lot of feelings. Okay there being in many times. They are very fragile and at the same time. We're not socialized into being able to express all of our emotions so we deal with ceilings in isolation Like to say we're going to make and so in the consequently if we're not able to show all these feelings may not even have the language to articulate what we're actually feeling. I feel sad. I feel powerless. I feel confused. I feel i don't know Betrayed i feel misunderstood. I felt like we don't necessarily like go into that ceiling vocabulary and then consequently you're probably going to see a lot of anger and here ability inevitably but we're going to act out and so we're going to try to overcompensate in some way But when cheating those happen you know Because we like to statistically i'll go here it statistically whenever a man has sex with their partner they tend to believe that i can go have sex with that partner anytime i want to and sometimes we may look at intimacy a little bit different than women to you know so i like claim pistol territory and to have somebody else come in and then lay claim to the territory. It can be very hurtful for some you know especially if they're immature or the insecure They're going to have a lot of issues when that tends to happen. So what about eight. Maybe i maybe ego the ego thing it does come into play like i said before we We have we tend to have bigger. But i would believe much more fragile egos in some ways. it's so via for the makeup of sometimes. Yeah yeah no. It's interesting talking about this. I have read this many times before. For example like if a childhood trauma happens it for you emotionally get stuck at four years old when when stuff doesn't go the way you want it and you're super stress you might like a four year old. I've heard you know like i. I know someone personally that had something very traumatic happened to them. At twelve years old and their maturity level emotionally and so is that true so Oftentimes they can be the case. I'll say if any of the listeners or interested in this really good book called. The body keeps score. I know you've heard of it. Talks about how how whenever we experienced trauma how they kind of get stuck in the body. If we don't have a good way or a very effective way to process the trauma. I have a couple of that comes with the mouse. And let's say they got together when they were sixteen years old. Were they still argue like sixteen-year-olds whenever they come into my office and they don't they haven't necessarily mature to the point where they are using active listening skills and talking with each other and being able to ask open ended questions and not flooding Physiologically whenever they're talking and so whenever trauma does happen again. The brain is always trying to figure out what just happened. How do i make sense of the world. How do i make sense of the suffering and if there's no meaning inside of the suffering you know there's no no No y. behind it. Well what happened is yes. You can get stuck in in the brain. What kind of going. A this feedback loop Because you can't necessarily make sense of what you experienced so So very often towns you know when people experience trauma it will affect the way that they look at life and look at relationships and how they responded situations because trauma can literally do something called. We want the limbic system. That's what too nervous system appear sympathetic sympathetic nervous system it can really rewire that the sympathetic part the kind of support. That kind of gets you hyped up and you know In the pearson parts of party nervous system that caused you down but You know If i have a military must combat veteran and a bullet whizzes by head Every time in his heart rate comes up to over one hundred fifty beats in half a second well over time that's going to rewire how he responds to things. And so Yeah trauma would definitely affect on how people deal with relationships and can help people be emotionally stunted because kinda get stuck in feedback loop. Well i have a lot more questions for you. We're going to go to a quick break and we'll be right back. Everyone you're listening to von egeland on one life radio all the fastest. What those babies over zambeze play haunted females excelled okay smarty party. Cloudy song walk on. The wall was next next as portion. How class luncheon comes in so much occur. starts walking. Gusto gordon since you were still talking because he likes to cruise to and just bust listening to one life radio make sure you check out our podcast and get to know the show at one life. Radio dot com. I always say that. Don't you love your car. Love using. And i love to dance my most favorite thing on the planet but everyone welcome back to one life. Radio this is bernadette with junior. We are broadcasting live on iheartmedia here in dallas texas as well as t in southern california on. Abc news talk and we are here with von egeland. He is a licensed professional counselor supervisor and works with two group practices in the dallas area. He's also a certified couple relationship trainer and sees a wide range of clients addressing men's issues anger management abuse and addiction. Just to name a few. He is also a doctoral candidate at the university of north texas in the counseling and higher education department and his phd research focuses on couple relationships dialogue and you can find him at press in place. Counseling dot com or follow him on instagram. At von talks we're talking about the emotionally stunted man so if you're just now joining us this is a fun topic to talk about and it really is and that just men though i say women too. I don't wanna. I don't wanna pick on men but so someone who a man whose whose stunted emotionally stunted what are some of the traits of that and and do they only act this way at certain times Well i would say that if they're mostly stunted that these types of traits are going to be pervasive so you're gonna see them come out in different ways now just because someone's emotionally stunted does not mean that they can't you know or that they don't appear confident initially you know so they can kind of come up with those good impression but mostly stunted at the end of the day. That's probably gonna come out in some way shape or form later on as you can see to be around that person as you continue to talk to them. Then these you're going to pick up on a lot of these cues and then You know so but one of the first things that a lot of times. They're gonna make everything about them which means that they're going to be egocentric so they talk about themselves More than they should. They're gonna probably talk about themselves more than they actually listening to you And so then being eagles century is you know that kinda goes throughout the whole relationship whenever someone is ego centric. Let's say if there's an argument they probably gonna wanna get the last word in and they're probably going to be selfish. They're probably not going to be very giving you know they're probably not going to be very vulnerable as different towns as well so but So being eagles injury. But that's part of being emotional sunday. I would also say that they probably lack accountability. So if you feel comfortable with yourself you're going to be able to give people permission to hold you accountable and the person who's emotionally stunted has difficulty with that accountability and i'm talking about not just minute women can have this as well but with men. Does it manifest a little bit differently. When there's accountability guy couples that come tamalpais and a lot times women will say. I feel like i'm raising. You know another child because my husband or my boyfriend or like they won't get off the the iran and do anything. Like i feel like i'm the person who's always pushing them. Who's always trying to motivate them. When they first talked they talked to the game. And they you know act like they had all this ambition and there's motivation and this initiative but when it came down to it they're not they're not accountable you know they're playing the victim role. Someone you know doing some mat. Work the not proactive. And so you know and they don't you know they just don't take a couple of billion in accountability no So that's someone who can be mostly sunny as well rolling to chat you know what no you're good you're good. I would even say that mostly sunny and many times. They'll actually be threatened by women who are strong and so again they can come out on a few different ways one time and one way they can try to control strong with it. You know Because if i can control her it makes me feel good about myself When someone is insecure many times you will see them Controlling and that is one way that they try to overcompensate for that insecurity. Because i don't feel good about myself. Sometimes i need to blow out other people's candle so i feel You know mind shines. Brighter may become controlling of my relationship. Because i see other people and they look like they threaten our relationship. I walk into a with my girl. And i've seen her. Is you know. go to some other men. And i'm probably going to be able to looking at what's wrong with you. You know some some wrong with. Is there something you're looking at the bar over there and it's like why are you controlling because that other guy all of a sudden it's threatening and she may not even stablishment may not have even established i contact with that guy but all you already on the lookout because you have this insecurity because you haven't necessarily dealt with but sometimes i have to say sometimes. I think that there are men and women both that do that intentionally to make the other person insecure like they're always on you know they're always looking else. You know what i'm talking about is you're a man. I don't know i've actually kind of done that to someone the burner. This sure. doug column what it is. I love so transparent about it on and you always had them a narcotic characteristics about myself in terms of being at least back in the day. You know my wife sir. Broke me of a lot of these characteristics. But if i were in a situation unless they didn't have the attention that i wanted and sometimes you can see this come out we call it in attachment disorders. That you know what. I will threaten to leave the relationship while may make a fuss on board. Probably going to make a stink. And i'll try to pull my love and affection away in order to make you come running you know and so and if you i'll say this And you can take this to the bank bernadette but in relationships the person who cares the least in a relationship typically has the most power and the power struggle though So so well. Here's the thing not not. Everybody actually understands knows that there has insight or i'll say they don't have awareness that they're in a power stroke for some people is just something that they naturally do for instance the big of an environment that was something that was natural and they just saw like the parents they would. They notice that they're you know they're friends. Did this or you know that people in their lives. You know engaged in this type of behavior. Then they may be in a power struggle and they may go into relationships thinking. This is normal. Because i tend to believe bernadette that contrast brings perspective everything is relative and so my first lady's life and he's another personal relationship but like it was an abusive relationship. You know and until. I got into another relationship. I didn't know what was normal. And so Oh she's not trying to cut me. Oh she's not trying to cut me out. Oh she's not trying to cry just to give me back and trying to manipulate me. Oh she's out. That stuff was normal. And i was like no. This person has a very chaotic. And you know it was normal to her. He's not normal to me and some people again they are there. They've normalized with the things that are abnormal. And so if you've always been in you know traumatic and chaotic relationships when you get into a stable relationship for some people yeah that relationships feels kinda born 'cause like this. This is not what i'm used to. You know so. When i say contracts brings perspective is like until you have something to compare it to a lot of times. You may think this is normal and with normally. You may not be maybe abnormal for everybody else so addicting that kind of drama and behavior Like actions like a cocaine addiction. I was reading an interesting article last week. In fact the next time you're on i'd love to talk about it It was a very interesting article. And i'm like yeah. I haven't thought about that but it really is. Someone can can actually feel like they've done cocaine. The high is so high. When you're on a it is a is an emotional high. Some people can become addicted to it. So you like some people with like an addictive personality. So whenever you fall in love is what we call being in a state of limerick where auburn their friend you know. Dopamine all the stuff slowing in saudi by the serotonin and so when that happens you get on. You have the mountaintop experience and some people they will go from relationship to relationship looking for that in love experience. I want that high. Or i wanna have us so they push the envelope. Do timothy partner. You know i wanna you know some people. You know exciting. Let's go have a parking lot where people can see as whatever they're looking for that high inside the relationship when they don't get it they make go through something else because i'm always looking for. I'm player focused pleasure oriented. yeah And so you. I was just gonna say and that's not that's not the best way to have a relationship stable now. We've only got about a minute. So i wanna ask you this question so we have a good takeaway for someone out there listening that maybe in this situation. How does someone effectively deal with an emotionally stunted man or person is it possible to reason with them. I would say Some ways well my counselor always depends when you need to work on your own self awareness to understand what you're dealing with because when you understand with someone is going through you understand yourself is going to be much easier to assess the situation to act accordingly so you need to communicate with your partner you need to also set some boundaries and you need to also follow through on what you say so If someone is wishy washy then you definitely want to be the person who is consistent. At times you may have to seek professional help To work on your self awareness and to work through your fears until you're insecurity and be willing to work on things within the relationship so qualified therapists And to to kinda help you work through some of this stuff but times people who are emotionally stunted they don't know what they don't know and so it's about increasing their awareness so once you have that awareness you've been do something about it and i say take a good long hard look in the mirror and ask yourself some questions. That's a great way to address it as well and You might not like yourself for a while. But i think everyone can grow and change and have a productive life if they just put the work in so none of us and that's for sure but always great can't wait to talk to you again Hopefully sooner rather than later. Von england You guys out there listening. You can find him at preston place. Counseling dot com or on instagram. At vaughn talks thanks again. We'll talk to you soon all right. Oh boy we've gone to break. We've got dave asprey coming up. Everyone we're talking about his new book. That has not been released yet. A fast this way. I was privileged to a copy of it. It's amazing stay tuned. you're gonna love it. you're listening to one life radio We lied vans oman again. This on facebook hit like and follow us one. Live radio back everyone. You're listening to one life. Radio this is bernadette with junior broadcasting live from dallas texas on iheartmedia as well as km et and southern california on abc news. Talk we have a very special guest with us today. It is dave asprey. He is the founder and chairman of bulletproof three sixty a high-performance coffee and food company and the creator of the widely popular bulletproof coffee. He is a three times a new york times bestselling author host of the webby award winning podcast bulletproof radio and has been featured on the today. Show fox news nightline cnn and dozens more over the last two decades. Dave the father of biohacking has worked with world renowned doctors researchers scientists and global mavericks to uncover the latest most innovative methods techniques and products for enhancing mental and physical performance. You can find. Dave dave asprey dot com. That's the first website and then bulletproof dot com or on instagram at dave dot. Asprey such a pleasure to meet you. Dave have you on one life radio. We're just real the have you today. Welcome thank you for having me. It's so great to hear your voice it really is. I'm super super thrilled. So you know. Let's talk about this new book that you have written fast way to lose weight get smarter and live your longest healthiest life with the bulletproof guide to fasting and thank you to our mutual friends. Michelle and keith. Norris founders of paleo affects. You'll be speaking at the virtual event this weekend. What will you be discussing dave. I'll be talking about the art of biohacking specifically how to do fasting without feeling pain and a lot of people don't do it because they're afraid and i'm going to teach them how to do it without anything that's uncomfortable. I started Right now i have a couple of bulletproof coffee with your bulletproof oil. And i didn't. I started fasting like yesterday. I guess it was around like eleven o'clock twelve o'clock and and you know now we're twelve hours in. That's not that long my body. Typically i can go up to sixteen hours but your book is apps. absolutely fascinating about It it doesn't have to be painful. I'm not hungry right now at all and so. I think it's not actually feel energized. Which you know a lot of people would think. Oh my gosh. If you don't have any food have energy but you know you have been extremely successful with bulletproof coffee. You're bestselling books and you're popular podcasts. But at one time a lot of people didn't know that this. I didn't know this that you wore a size forty six pants and where three hundred pounds and you were quoted as saying that you feel like a young man trapped in an old man's body so what happened. That woke you up to make such dramatic light so many dramatic lifestyle changes. It turns out that. When you're fat. And i can say that because i was i You know it. You don't need to scale All you need to do is wake up in the morning and look at how you feel and everyone who's away like that is kind of desperate to lose weight but were more desperate just to feel really good because when you have that much weight it means the energy that's supposed to become premier food to fuel what you do and how you feel. It's going into excess weight and so you're always feeling like you're in a car that won't accelerate all the way and it's really frustrating. I just kinda hit the wall. Right has three surgeries before i was twenty three and they started eating brain fog right. Today's fourteen all the eighth all diseases of aging. Before i was twenty eight and i'm like i can't do this anymore. I it's it's important half to fix this and my doctor. Just kinda thinks it's in my head but i think it's in my pants because they're big. I have an interesting question. Because i never way myself and i've always maintained unless i was pregnant and even then within twenty pounds of weight i am right now. Sometimes they'll fluctuate at the most five to ten pounds. But are you one that that that that regularly ways yourself. I'm just curious The only time. I regularly weigh myself as if i'm using one of the devices from upgrade labs one of my startups. That's getting things that way but is telling me how inflamed and how much fat around the organs and things that are important for health but your daily wait. It's really a function of how much water you drink. And when you go to the bathroom so it doesn't matter if you use up once a month it's still doesn't matter especially if you're a woman because it's common to have four or five pound fluctuation. What matters is how your clothes fit. I agree well. I have this thing where i look at myself naked in the mirror every day. And that's how i assess you know what parts of my body neat maybe need. More working out Just my level of acceptance. I'm not you know. Super what do i want to say like hard on myself. That's not the. That's not the best word but i don't i don't judge myself. I just evaluate myself daily to always keep myself in check. Do you think that's a good way to keep your weight at a good level. It's a good way to keep your weight into good level if it works for you but if i would have looked in the mirror when i was obese i would have not liked to myself. There's always some level of of personal development there and you're saying this is pretty good. I'd like to improve this little bit. That's healthy if you look at it and go that's shameful that's discussing. How could i have let myself do this. Just what i didn't know is that if that's happening to you it's because there's a problem with your biology. It is not a problem with your willpower people who are fatter willpower athletes. Because we have to go around and get everything done with less power than other people because our power is getting hijacked. And i've found that that learning how to intermittent fasting my first book. The bulletproof diet that that was on the new york times last. I talked about intermittent fasting and it helped to lead the spark where now it's all over the place but what i didn't do was teach people to understand that it doesn't have to be abhorrent when i i had someone told me i should skip breakfast. This is back in the late. Nineties i was. I was horrified. Are you kidding. If i don't need six times a day i'll into starvation mode and i'll start acting like a jerk and i'll be tired all the time because i didn't know how to do it. That's why i wrote this new book. The book is amazing. It really is of course we were privileged to get it ahead of time. It doesn't come out until january. Nineteen but i have to tell you it is so well written. It is such a great book. I'm truly enjoying it. I'm not completely threw it yet. So many incredible great pieces of advice and just data information And for those of you out there just may be getting in your car and just now listening. We're talking to dave asprey his new book fast this way. So you know like you just said people hear the word fasting. They immediately think of food deprivation and starvation and pain but what are some of the other forms of fasting that people don't typically think of shopping just means to go without so if you're on the unhealthy vegan diet then you've decided to fast from animal protein in animal fats. If you are on the kito diet you're fasting from carbohydrates but some of them are interesting kinds of fasting. And the one that i i write about towards the end of the book is actually called spiritual fasting. And this is when you say. I'm going to set aside a couple of days. And i'm actually going to look at the emotions and the feelings of hunger and i'm going to use it to improve myself and but you don't have to do that if it's a monday morning you've got work but you want the benefits of fasting. There are hacks you can do during the fast. So you don't lose energy and you can be a good parent and a good employee. But it's not idea of spiritual fasting to the point that when people ordered the book now and send me the receipt on fast dot com. I'm spending two weeks teaching. Everyone who honors me by reading the book how to do this on a daily thing every morning get on the get on a a webcasting with them and actually walk through. Here's what we're gonna do today. Here's how to do it. Because i think at least a million people in the us alone can sit down and say. I'm gonna learn how to do this without any fear without any suffering and without any deprivation. But eventually i'll teach you towards the very end of this too fast from hate. Don't whole day without thinking anything bad about someone so you can do that. That's the most however kind of passing there is. I couldn't agree more and especially right now. Oh my goodness There's just so much contempt out there Among so many people. But you know in in the book you talk about Sobriety going without substances and meditation is going without thinking solitude is going without other humans and shibat is going without working and absence is going without sex so many men can't even imagine that so no seriously and i did want to go there because i think it's i. Do i think that. I you know i have friends that that you know the male friends that think that my goodness if they have to go a day without that wow and they don't see it as an addiction away to if you can step away from it how you can have personal growth. It's not something that you absolutely need every day to survive Like a lot of things that we're talking about including television. I found so interesting in your book that you turn off your television twenty years ago. So many people have their television all the time right. It's really incredible when you say well. I feel like want this all the time and the wants become needs but it's not really a need what i discovered through the course of studying our ourselves. Is that all lifeforms. Follow these basic rules including us in the first rule is you've got to run away from or kill or hide from anything scary and you do that because we're wired as animals about us you drop everything and you deal with that and unfortunately if an election feels scary or going to feel scary. It messes up your priorities. The second thing we do is we're wired to eat everything because our ancestors definitely had famines and the third thing we're wired to do if the first one is food of the first one fear the second one's food the third thing that all animals have to do to reproduce that's also an f. word you know what that is now. Let you know what it is it's for. I don't know what you're thinking. Yeah yeah yeah. I was listening so intensely. I just kinda yeah i i am my gosh so you did. Make me blush yeah. You're just so funny. I'm looking at bring this up your your ear perennial sunning. This is from a year ago. What what in the earth made you think of that. But i you know. I was thinking as i was looking at it thinking. Okay it makes sense. You said that. It increases testosterone is that because of the vitamin d. That the testes are getting from the direct sunlight. Most most people don't sunbathe. Then have that area of their body exposed but right. There's a study that shows that if sunlight strikes directly on the testes that it increases testosterone production very meaningfully. And it's probably because all of the light from the sun especially the red and infrared are stimulating. The might contract in the cells there. And so i put a picture a tasteful picture on instagram about that mostly because it was funny. I don't actually lay out your son. You know with my junk out there very often. It was on a beach was a private beach and it was picture. No i thought it was just incredibly funny. I'm glad that you know how important is a sense of humor by the way to get through this thing called life. It's actually shown in multiple studies having a sense of humor. Being able to laugh at yourself and that things that otherwise would be scary. It increases the hormones and make you live a long time and it decreases inflammation and. it's funny. You can see two people. They're walking one of them falls down in the bud and start swearing and the other one falls down in the mud and starts laughing. They both got dirty. What was the difference between the two. The difference was how they programmed their thinking and one of the things that i decided to do in the course of of the research. That's taken a long time for fast this way. I said there are things. That really aren't funny to me and things that i feel like our deadly and one of them was being alone and the other ones being hungry. So i hired a shaman. She dropped me off in a cave where i was alone with no food and no humans for ten miles in any direction and spent four days just sitting with that and i structured fastest way all about okay. What goes through your mind and what goes through your body when you're doing this and it's great because you realize a lot of the things you think you need are not requirements at least for a little while and teaching yourself to feel safe and calm is life changing. It takes away a lot of weight from the world and that makes space for having a sense of humor. Yeah no it does. And it's empowering. I'm only on like i don't know what our from fasting but i haven't fasted for three or four days in a very long time but your book has inspired me to do so but there is something very powerful about having control over your mind and yourself and we're gonna go to break real quick for a quick identification station identification more coming up with dave asprey. Everyone stay tuned. You're listening to one life radio food. I'm having fun jackson. My back up and madonna us on social media. Live radio welcome back. Everyone you're listening to one life. Radio we are live from dallas texas iheartmedia as well as in southern california. Dave asprey is our guest. Today is the founder and chairman of bulletproof three sixty high-performance copy and food company and the creator of the widely popular. Bulletproof coffee he is a three times new york bestselling author and host of the webby award winning. Podcast bulletproof radio. He's been featured on the today. Show fox news nightline cnn and dozens more and over the past two decades. Dave the father of biohacking has worked with world renowned doctors researchers scientists and global mavericks to uncover the latest most innovative methods techniques and products for enhancing mental and physical performance. You can find dave at dave at asprey dot com or bulletproof dot com or on instagram. At dave dot asprey. Today we're talking about his incredible new book that gets released on january nineteenth fast this way. Okay so dave. We've only got a couple of minutes. Unfortunately that clock always goes too fast. When you've got an incredible. Gaston but what. What does fasting from food. Do for us physically. It is remarkable what it does when you decide to fast even for just sixteen hours which sounds like a big deal except what that means. Is you skip breakfast and have a late lunch. It's not the end of the world. But when you do that or longer fast it tells your body any cells or even parts of yourselves. The mitochondria any of them. That can't hang for that period of time without food. They must be weak and therefore the body will replace the week parts with stronger parts with younger parts. It's basically like weightlifting for your metabolism. What a great explanation. that's You explained it perfectly you did. And that sounds so empowering like who doesn't want to do that right empowering except. I didn't want to do that because i knew that. Come around. Eleven o'clock eleven thirty. I was start acting like a jerk because my blood sugar would go low. And i want to punch people not that. I'm kind of guy but hey anyone who's been angrier or in my case hypoc lie bitchy We we know that viewing well. I just learned that if you do this occasionally and you start slowly and you use the hack that elated and not feel that hunger you can be kind and nice and level headed person even while you do it and that's the hack Well so why is the approach to fasting different for women. It turns out that women have different hormones and men. I know that sometimes isn't politically correct to say. But hey it's totally true. When women do fasting too much even just intermittent fasting every morning for a lot of women after about six for the first month. You're gonna feel amazing but after about six weeks. You start noticing. Hey i sleep isn't as good. I keep waking at three in the morning. Four in the morning and my hormones aren't working the way they should and you wonder what's going on because you know fasting makes you feel so good what's happening is it's just like training you over train or you can over fast so being kind to yourself and fasting every other day or intermittent fasting every other day it works really well for a lot of women and few women can do it every single morning especially exercise a lot. I'm so glad. I asked that question because i've experienced that and i couldn't understand why some nights i would sleep so well and then some days not and But i typically intermittent fast. Every single day i try to do at least twelve hours and typically sixteen hours. So that's really good to know. So let me ask you this. We only have just about one or two minutes before the music's gonna play. Are you still on track to live to one hundred and eighty on track to live to at least one hundred eighty. That's not the ceiling. That's just the goal and all of us have that potential right now because of all these new technologies coming down and because now we know why aging happens. What a great. What a great time having you on the show today. Such an honor to speak with you personally. I hope you'll come back sometime. It's really been great. And you'll be at the paleo f x you're part of it Virtual twenty twenty. And we'll be looking forward to that as well. Thank you so much for jumping on the air with us today. Thank you all right. Dave s free. Everyone check him out on instagram. At dave dot free and his websites. Dave asprey dot com and bro bulletproof dot com and of course his new book fastest way released eight t january nineteen twenty twenty one. It's fantastic. i guarantee. I just got my my big thumbs up of approval. Everyone thank you so much for listening today. And you know what You get one body you get one mind and you get one live so get out there today and make the most of it.

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Speaker Preview 2: Human Upgrades at the 7th Annual Biohacking Conference : 857

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Speaker Preview 2: Human Upgrades at the 7th Annual Biohacking Conference : 857

"Bulletproof radio station. High performance your listening to bulletproof radio with dave asprey this special episode features high impact short tips from bulletproof radio guests who are gonna be presenting at the seventh annual biohacking conference. I'm looking forward to seeing you. There in orlando florida. September seventeenth nineteenth to connect learn and find the coolest new ways to upgrade yourself. If you're listening from somewhere else you're gonna get a lot of these pieces of motivation from this episode. We're talking about earned and well learned pieces of knowledge from leaders and mavericks. That are going to help you figure out how to step outside your comfort zone and do stuff. That doesn't feel like you can do it. That's been my path and it's been my pleasure to take you on that path whether it's with the show with the books with the upgrade collective or right now at the seventh annual biohacking conference enjoy these pieces of motivation in keep upgrading. You're going to have fun listening to this a lot of times when we think about proteins we think about. What are we going to eat. But it turns out that each type of protein has sugg- function inside the cells in your body and protein function is pretty much everything when it comes to immunity your organs even your macondo. The proteins have to be formed correctly. And that's one reason that i recommend and i use the nano. V device from a company called inc three nephews panda technology uses specific wave links that change energize tiny water droplets into a breathable missed. And the reason that matters is that your body folds proteins into specific shapes and to do it. It needs that highly ordered form of water. None of these data and rock-solid studies backup what they're doing and that's why have it at my lab at home. That's why have it at forty years of so people can push their brains harder and have it at upgrade labs go to hang three corp dot com slash dave. That's e. n. G. three core dot com slash dave to find out more about navy to get pricing and learned about the study results. Vicious is a good friend of very one. On speaker on the entrepreneurial mindset and company culture a well known entrepreneur investor philanthropist technologist working for social good and co mind valley and the guy behind awesomeness fast. Which is a biohacking personal development event for entrepreneurs and creatives and innovators. He's a bio hacker of change so vicious welcome to the show. Happy to talk with you again. Dave i am so onto this short so in my book i teach people a qualified form of learning and human development. I call it consciousness engineering and if you want to upgrade your computer or say your smartphone which is essentially a computer all you do. Is you upgrade. The hot west might go from the iphone. Five the iphone six or you download new apps you download new apps. Give your new abilities now in the human consciousness thing of think of your hardware as your beliefs. You believe so installed. That's why i compare it to hardware because hardware. Something you install in a computer. Not the thing is most of the believes that were installed in you. Come not from rational choice. Doctrine aided in you from authority figures for media from parents from education from observations. You made as an innocent little child. You decide how how important you are. You decide whether people love you decide your capabilities you decide your money threshold. You decide your role as a man or a woman you decide. What masculine feminine. How you're going to age. What your body is your feelings about yourself. All install beliefs are the first thing about conscious. Engineering is to recognize that these beliefs are not you. They are simply hardware and just like hot way. You can swap out believe that belief and swap in a good belief and often when people transform their beliefs when they have a weakening moments. They're like j just because you believed determine what you're going to experience in the world so that's one part of it right but the second aspect of consciousness. Engineering is the app so the software so while upgrading beliefs is one way to grow the second way to grow to hack. Your mind is to download new software and software. Your systems. Your systems ballistic. Bulletproof coffee is a system. Certain diets are assistant. Kubota exercise or minimum effective dose exercise is system. You've made a. You've built an incredible business teaching people upgraded systems for living from how to eat to how to think to to to how to increase your longevity. So if you want to grow as a human from human one point of the human two point oh you got to do to. Thanks recognize models of reality understand. What are your model of reality swap in good once swapping good one swap out bat once and you learn. This drew studying the great reading autobiographies drew. Modalities like hypnotherapy. Meditation where you have awakening moments that shift your beliefs and secondly study learn and adopt new systems. So i'm constantly learning studying. That's my bookshelf. It's filled by about a thousand books in my home filled with books all my books nonfiction books to teach new systems new system splitting everything from eating dieting. I'm constantly reinventing myself with these new systems. So back to your question right once you understand this framework now when you understand this framework everything you absorb in the nonfiction well in the personal growth. Whoa you can absorb it faster because you're instantly spotting okay. That's a model. You can read a biography like like a like a coded. It by jake craig veteran allow okay. So that's how great venture used. He's the guy who decoded the human genome. And then you can adopt that same model in your head and you can read books like the bulletproof diet and adopt systems directly and inject them into your life so what i really teach. People is to accelerate growth by turning themselves into an upgradable piece of hardware beliefs systems. Back to your question. I don't know how jewish works but the fact is it doesn't matter into please bullshit. It doesn't matter. It's a belief and the belief changes your view of the world. So maybe it is all luck but by believing that. I have that luck by believing that when i'm about to call an attorney right because there's something in my being that's guiding me on who to call. I am better on the call. In fact scientists. Proven this in johnny carr's book the happiness advantage. He talks about a study sales. People that shows that optimistic salespeople are fifty five percent more effective than negative salespeople so even eventually is complete bullshit by having a belief that i have in jewish that that my finger is guiding me towards the attorney to call and make myself more domestic i create a fifty five percent boost see. It's all empirical you'll beliefs don't have to be true. You choose your beliefs and act in accordance with them and they become true for you. Most animals are like earth unware when they are born within a few months they can hunt they can walk they can stand up and like earthenware any attempt to mold them or influence them. It's just like making tiny scratch. But human animals human beings are born like molten glass and dust. It can be more that they can be shaped like molten glass. They can turn into whatever you want them to turn into. This is why you can raise a child to be in the woods while hariri buddhist or christian socialist or capitalist wall monger a peacemaker all. Our beliefs can be indoctrinated in us before the age of seven. And it doesn't just come from the people around us. It comes from our own meaning making machine so we didn't mind. We have a meaning making machine a pattern recognition system that tries to make sense of the world but because it still doesn't have all the data it needs data's nothing maturity we create files meetings. Like in your case you created that meaning that you were meant to be alone. I created the meaning that because i grew up in a culture in asia where look different. I'm not asian. Asian south asian indian. I look different from everyone else. I went to school in a different color and i had caucasian features like larger notes. Inhere in my arms and legs. 'cause i'm northern indian and the boys made fun of me. I was called gorilla leagues. Because i had heroin my legs. I was called hooked nose because my nose was bigger than most people of east asian descent. So i grew up in created the meaning that i was ugly and so my entire life until the age of twenty two. I never actually been with a girl or even being on a date. Because i grew up thinking i was ugly. And that's how powerful these meaning making machines can be on our life and when you learned to swap this out and when you learned it you believe or not you. Instant ships happen and so. That's that's really what i'm trying to do with this book. I mean it. It's one of many things that's why this is so important. Now just a segue right one of the key things that excites me. Most is how this influences parents. You've got kids. I've got kids. And one of the people. I interview in the book alongside you and elon. Musk richard branson is a parenting psychologists called shelly. Let's go and shelby steele is a really interesting. One of the things she says. Is that your greatest job as a parent is to let your kids be who they want to be but what you gotta constantly ask yourself in every interaction with your child is what meaning. Are they going to take away from this. So you have a kid right. Who's eating food. And he drops his spoon. And you go. Billy don't do that. And a few minutes. Later billy drops spoke and you like delete. I told you not to do that. Go sydney corner now. You think that's correct. And that's the traditional north american parenting style. But it's harmful. It's dangerous because you've got to ask yourself. What meaning is billy taking away from this. Perhaps billy dropped first spooned by accident and he was surprised that his mom yelled at him so he wanted to test his mom's love for him dropping spoil. He's just an innocent show. He's just experimenting. The mom now gets angry and sends into a corner. Now in his head is meaning making machine goes into overdrive. Mom doesn't trust me. I'm not important. What i say doesn't matter. I'm clumsy and all of these meaning stack on each other. He grows up with meaning such as. I'm not important. Therefore i'm not loveable. Therefore i'm not good enough. Therefore i'm not as good as the kids and they build up and they build up and they build up and all of us go into adulthood with these holes within ourselves. These things which were waiting for other people to fill in forest love importance attention. We start quoting them because asks children they were these holes. Were put into us true innocent parenting mistakes and our own dysfunctional limited meaning making machine. You know that's what excites me. Being able to help the world create kids. Who are all what confident who don't feel like they have. These goals fail stays high performance. You're listening to bulletproof radio with dave asprey today. We're going to talk about intuitive fasting and getting in touch with real hunger with a guy who really knows what he's talking about. I'm talking about dr will cole. Leading functional medicine nutrition expert and senior clinic director at the coal natural health centers in pittsburgh one of the top fifty functional and integrative doctors in the country and he looks at chronic disease and things like thyroid inflammation is also known for his book. Kito -tarian any has a new book which is called intuitive fasting. It's this idea that fasting does not rigid and painful. And that there's really good stuff you can do there. And that it doesn't have to be the same everyday so will and i are in great agreement a lot things but not everything. And we're gonna go deep on fasting for you today if you're really tired of fasting trust me. We're gonna talk about a lot of stuff. That isn't fasting. Because he's a functional doctor pick his brain all over. The place will welcome to the show. Thank you my friend. It's it's truly an honor excited. You'd be talking so just go intuitive fasting. It's not the same every day. Because i'm using my intuition. Like like yeah. We needed a doctor to step up and say that. Well you what you do say in. Your book is flexible. You use the word flexible route. So i think it's the same thing as not being feeling like you're failing because you aren't doing the same thing as you say in the book if you wake up one day like you're not feeling like you wanted to depress that's okay. You can pivot and have that And sometimes anybody women included feel like they were more is better and then they're they're cycles thrown off and they're not having the period or they're losing their hair and then think fasting failing me Fasting is not working for me was. It's just how you're using it and it doesn't mean you throw the baby out with the bathwater and say what doesn't work for me. It's just like whoa. how're using. Let's find a way where you can leverage the benefits without only prey to these potential drawbacks for some people. It's funny a fascinating kito even the vegan diet which i'm not exactly a big proponent of all of them can be useful for brief periods of time but then i feel so good. I'm just going to dive in in. All of them will trash you overtime. If i'm working on your intuitive fasting plan how do i know if a craving is emotional or biological or got i omar knows. How would i know if it's a craving a real hunger. It's a great question. So i think that first of all when somebody's rarely metabolic the rigid and they're super sugar burning their their irritable. They're bound by that next snack and that next meal like yeah right and so many people are. i mean. There's no shame in that. It's just where they're at this point when you start leaning into even light time restricted feeding windows light intermittent fasting even like a twelve twelve window. Like if they're eating between eighty and apm even that late night snack will be difficult to stop that point. If we're looking at that context it's going to be the more. It's that's on a deep fast. And if they're craving they have plenty of time to eat and be well satiated and nourished. It's not deep fasting window but even then you can know something on that level is going to be the blood sugar. Hungriness is going to be the fact that that kindling zoff that fire and the sort of metabolic purgatory because they aren't able to like get that kindling on the fire. As much as they want to that sugar That quick fix that they're looking for and they're kind of addicted to So at that point you know. It's not really intuition. It's really going to be something that's gonna actually move them away from homies days. It's going to actually perpetuate imbalance inflammation levels in the body So that's one way to to check in into it. But i would say something that i advocate throughout. The book is what i call metaphysical meals. It's that when you are leading into these like deeper. Intermittent fasting windows' is to really use that time of when you would normally have breakfast lunch and dinner or whatever facet you're doing if you're like doing two meals a day when you new orleans have that meal that you're not having that meal to use that as a time to go inward to actually do a mindfulness practice and i give some examples in the book. Whether that's journaling or meditation practice or breathing exercise or any one of these things for us going out in nature and checking in with your self. You could start to create that awareness of checking in with your body check in with your cravings check. Imager your energy levels check in with your digestion to know and how awareness and that's an intuition that's growing starting to be able to shine through the physiological imbalances the noise in the body. So that's that's what i would say. Is that an easy thing to do all the time absolutely not. It's going to take practice. And that's what we're all doing role practicing these things and we're all getting stronger as we practice And mindfulness and awareness and in getting in touch with a intuition is no no exception to that. Bulletproof radio stays of high performance. You're listening to bulletproof radio with dave asprey when you balance your blood sugar. Your overall health improves on just about every metric. You can find more. Recent research shows that even healthy people have wild swings in their blood sugar after they eat different foods and spikes in blood. Sugar force your pancreas to work harder. And that's tied to things like weight gain and even heart attack risk. My friends at by optimize have a new blood sugar breakthrough supplement. That can help and measurably help you. Just take two capsules about fifteen minutes before meal. Your body will then push carbs glucose into your muscles so your body uses them as fuel instead of turning into fat that means more stable energy without the post meal crash and it's noticeable you can have better workouts better gains at the gym and an easier time leaning out. If that's what you're working on it's all about controlling your blood. Sugar you can find out more about the science behind blood sugar breakthrough on bulletproof radio episode eight. Oh seven and because you listenable radio you get a special deal. Good to blood sugar breakthrough dot health slash. Dave use code. Dave ten save ten percent off. That's blood sugar. Breakthrough dot health slash. Dave guests is a nash deci. He's a bestselling author. People call him a thought leader. Whatever that is and business in life catalyst going all right dave. We got someone who's a little bit on the the the softer side of things. not a hardcore biochemist. And that's good. Because i love conversations like this because you can learn a lot there and it's kind of a big deal though. Because he's been on oprah on her super soul. Sunday show he's worked alongside deepak chopra. Who just on the show. And he works with reverend. Michael beckwith As well so this is One of today's modern leaders in personal development. Which is way cooler than being called a thought leader which is the bio he sent. Me and pasha's new book is called. You are enough revealing the soul to discover your power potential and possibility. How do you know Who you are in in. Just step one of your enough of when you have all these belief systems whether it's because that's the behavior exhibiting or because it's a programming. They got near young. How do you know what's you so again. But when we're being ourselves it's about coal foundation of feeling peaceful right so everything else. Above and beyond that is disciplined we authentically all so basically suffering is completely authentic. It's completely inauthentic. It requires so much energy to suffer. Right it requires no energy until it to just simply be. We are which is peaceful so i think one of the things been missing in the transformational train would at lodge is that. We don't have a context. The feeling level of who we are right. We have this intellectual framework and understanding this capacity to talk about ourselves all day long from all different perspectives. But because we don't know what authenticity actually feels like. We don't have a point to return to on demand and because we don't have a point to pretend to on demand who taunt them seoul south choice incisions from that place but the festive for me is to always become very acutely aware of who would become and to have so much empathy and compassion for who is become because dan is a product of system and the structure that has fundamentally judged criticized the non realized who you are in order to have you fit into a world right. The he doesn't work for the majority of us anyway. And so we. I kind of wake up. We have to come back to this place of compassionate empathy cross-alps because we have to stop from there. Right where we stopped from and how we move on from that place of discovery is how we will evolve. And i think the bigger issue that individualists said you know clearly in that situation a lot of self judgment a lot of criticism a lot of self hatred right. That person has never embraced was never held was never enough. That person's never modeled. What love was in any kind of demonstrable way and so again unpacking that particular example. You know giving someone a real practical feeling point of okay. This is who you are. This is what you feel like when you're being yourself and all of these other things just fluctuations that are happening at the level of the mind level of emotion than the least you'll stop but this journey of acceptance is agenda ruining our inclusivity toward ourselves right so in that moment if we're twenty six one when we don't love ourselves and hates ourselves completely at least have to accept where we are in that moment in order for any change or any transmission or the possibility of any change or transmission to even be introduced to that individual in the absence of that acceptance. No change on no transmission as possible on any level of like okay so we started accepting Some of those things. But we're we're doing it now based on the feeling. Oh that makes me feel peaceful. That's probably really me. Everything else has probably some other programming. How do you identify that feeling of peace for the first time so the defending when i experienced the this time was just as overwhelming sense of calm Being that i just had inside in their reason It wasn't the highly album always by whatever brand the thc or currently imbibing way just out of a cannon and and then you have this kind of momentary expensive out of body experience in time and then all of a sudden it to back comebacks the reality that is your life right so every other avenue and means of coming about this is unsustainable long term. You know. I think sex is a great example. Because there's a moment where that basic primal needs fill on as a result of the filling of that need. We do have an entry point into that piece into that moment of okay. I'm i'm i'm a piece here right. I'm i'm i'm able to relax here right but again. It's momentary through all external mediums phenomenon. Informs that point of connection is elusive. We can't sustain it. we have to come back to. What's naturally available inside. Know our biology on mind who we are. Feeling level is the ultimate technology. Just not using you know. We're not using what we have and that's because we haven't been trained to use it right. We haven't nobody's ever saddest down and said hey it's okay to accept your emotions. It's okay to to to be with what's going on in your mind that you don't have to react to it. It's okay to be with what's happening level. Believe that you don't have to react to it. Your body is this wonderful vessel. Avatar advocate this simulation. And it's going to end and you have to ask the through to your a feeling state to shift your biology in any way that you choose to. You can literally shift your genetic expression to how you feel about yourself every moment and the dominant feeling that you're holding and so nobody's teaching stuff right and spirituality really for me. The foundation of it is the mostra of who we are as human beings right. How do we navigate emotions. How do we navigate mind. How do we navigate body once. We've got that all of this. External material success moments law. That's the it becomes so much easier because we no longer have to overcome the obstacle that is ourselves rag no longer have to overcome the obstacle. Good as is our emotions. We no longer have to overcome the obstacles on mind. We know after overcome the obstacle that his body so at that point once we've mastered how to navigate all of this that we are at the level of our humanity all of these wonderful wisdom traditions that we have access to the really knew the truth. Who we all at that point. All of these other extensions become become easier become ways to navigate the first time that you achieve that that feeling of of peace years driving. How old were you. I was about twenty three or twenty. Four and i had always had. I always had this very interesting relationship with god because obse points in indian family. There's very spiritual on the weekends. We'd go see saints sages endure and teaches. Because it's what you do when you're in did and then you line up on the program for about three hours and they buck you on the head with a peacock feather in my favorite part was they'd give you some kind of indian sleep had way too much sugar and and so i kind of justified it by taipans blocked on the head and get a sweet and every time that we would go to see one of these incredible being they say to me. Thank you connie. Been waiting there. And i just thought that was the weirdest thing apple experiencing things happening around me about hadn't explained and so i had this relationship. It's berge faulty in my early childhood was deeply massive in my formative years so basically that's kind of a framework would is conditioned into was this framework presents transcendence in peace like the meditation room was my foundational essence. When i got older. I subsequently moved away from non tried to fit in to belong. Got involved in this whole notion about being enough got involved in the music scene in london and a lot of my friends at the time. Some of london's most wanted and they ruined the import export distribution business on a wholesale level and And i was in music and so all of a sudden music came into my tunnel mayhem. Dalwin guide and pirate radio was a big deal. In the uk that sounds since german base and garrett and i ended up being an nc on the pirate radio station and foaming at raves and gotten to music and subsequently to a point on that where my journey took me back to spirituality on magenta baxter chow specifically was one night. I was in a I was drinking while indian and the ball where nobody else was. Indian and treat people took exception to that had multiplication bounces. Pulled me off and pulled me out on then. Subsequently that i was embarrassed to go home because i didn't have to have that conversation my mom and dad and so i went to an authorized tub in brixton south london An older older great music that it was an older off-drives clubs and before we've gotten had been shooting and we didn't know when we will into the club nixon's nullification guns. Come out on okay. and then. We ended up in like a five to seven alice. Standoff with the metropolitan police department swat team because they wouldn't come in because there with guns in the premise and so they escorted everybody out one by one videotaped everybody. Meanwhile my parents watching on television because it was at this point a major news event old throughout london. And that night. When i got back and i got home it was like something had just completed itself like i just like you don't want done like i get it like i'm done like with whatever this says and i sat on nominated said mom i've got to go live like a monk. Six months exit gotta get back to spiritual my youth. I said i'm not happy living ally in this situation but isn't really who i am. And that's what happened. I went back to an oshkosh residential retreats into upstate. New york lived a very simple life. Shake my head and lived in monastic life. Six months and there was a moment. In non one-sided unwound all of the kind of emotional months since that accumulates over the medical coverage that have been superimposed over me all of the belief systems that i've resolved what there was a moment where i just experienced profound stumbles and i understood that the stillness is peace right apostle understanding this piece that people talk about in every tradition and that for me was the first moment when everything i began to kind of happen for me was i was in venice. California two thousand to two thousand three cents a year or two. And i said right god whatever you all like any experience what you log because there's a lot of things that i caught reconciled being done in your name. So if i am mandate hits the messenger. I need to experience what you all and so literally. New year's eve two thousand to two thousand three him sitting on my couch and i'm experiencing again wave the way. They're just energy in motion moving through me lifetime than it gets this point day everything just becomes golden light. Everything becomes this gold luminous presence. It's the most pewter fall feeling most beautiful experience you could ever have beyond definition like any any kind of work that i used to describe what this love is. Cheapens the experience of this law. That's why when oprah suites find god. I couldn't because any definition that we put on infinity inherently becomes a limitation and from that moment that was further awakening of who i was it was a feather establishing this often that i was in a state of lists for about three to six just in complete list. And everything's like this beautiful goal might everywhere in everything and i was beginning to see through all of the Separation all the layers of fear. All the layers of survival. I was able to see clearly what this is about. An foundational essence weapons is about as love. It's about that love. It's about reconnecting to that. Love living from that place and empowering people to remember with no matter what they've done no matter how left might have what they've gone through in lives that this loves beyond that they they could ever get from outside of them is available to them within the and the degrees wish that able to undergo this transmission basically tuition able to reconnect bulletproof radio stations high performance. You're listening to bulletproof radio with dave aspirin. What don's here to talk about is his more effective ways of dealing with trauma using neuroscience using proprietary cutting edge techniques that he's developed. Because here's the deal. One wants to spend forty years sitting in a cave dealing with their trauma because we actually have stuff to do in the world done. Welcome to the show. Thanks dave how do you. How do you define the word trauma like. I've used it in in episode. Since the beginning. I've interviewed different experts on trauma of the kind of have a different way of describing it threes. I'm asking when i started this pathak. I'm an engineer. There's no reason for me to be traumatized from not traumatized. There's no reason we'd be afraid. They're afraid of hyper. Rational sort of stuff and said you're traumatized might have been in a car accident. I'm not traumatized. So what is trauma. The way talking about it. Trauma is a glitch. It's an error message. So the way i always explain it is if you think about something that happened to you ten years ago and you feel fear or anger you feel an emotion. That's affecting you so trauma to me is if you know. Some people have experienced severe trauma and they're higher. Functioning is what i call your own personal atmospheric conditions so if my atmospheric conditions were much clearer growing up and then i get into some trauma like i experienced. I'm able to deal with that better. Because i don't have this flood of data coming in so to me. It's all in perspective so my wife anytime something would go wrong. She heard nervous. Would be totally just regulated. Because she had so many things that remind mind was thinking about. I could have something happen. And i could deal with it better because my system had learned how to regulate and i could stay present easier so i think it's all relative depending on the individual and what they've experienced especially in childhood. Now talk to me about what you do at the inspired performance institute in order to to clear glitch so we have an example from your wife and you would say i didn't like something and she'd say where are you mad at me like i'm not mad. I just wanted my salad with less dresses. And you're like it doesn't correspond here. What what's your what's your technique. Well basically what. I what they did. And that's the reason we called it a performance program as opposed to trauma therapy because nobody wants to go through trauma there. Because let's face it if you have trauma you probably don't know it right. I mean the vast majority of people who will insist that they have nothing they do and my wife was high functioning so if you had met her she didn't get into addiction or anything if you've met her she's great woman. Great wife grade mother taking care of her kids but she had nightmares constantly and she was living with that. So i could see that and i could see how affecting her but she presented so well and the and i was sworn to secrecy. Nobody could know what happened to her as a child because she kept saying. This is a reflection on my family on who i am. Ashamed component shame component. I kept saying no. There isn't right. I loved you i married. You had nothing to do with the way. I saw you right. But that's not the way she thought interesting and now she can tell talk about it to anybody. Okay so she lost the shame entirely. yes which which is such a powerful thing to be able to just say it's the same thing with addiction. What i say. The same thing is that we're treating that wrong with shaming them. We're guilty them. Right as opposed to saying what i say to him as i understand why you got into addiction is it gives you had emotional pain. You found a resource that stopped the paint temporarily. And because you repeat it you built a code. How does your your tip method from your institute. How does it differ from something like mdr this. I've movement dissociate of response that Some therapists using. I've talked about it in a few episodes before yep. Emc are works if it's done by the right practitioner but it just takes a lot longer takes okay so the results. You're saying one for our session. The how many traumas do clear per hour. Three three okay. Not even per hour three altogether okay. So you're saying just three is enough for most people to have a profound difference in their performance. Because what happens is that when they go to sleep at night the brain goes into that theta brainwave state start processing. What they just learned So i worked with a lady who had really bad sexual abuse. As a child we cleared three traumas and she said to me. She said she's we're going to be here all night. Because i got a lot of these. I said we're not gonna do anymore. Your mind's going to process everything else. The mind and body are designed to heal. It's gonna once it got this process. Down is going to apply it. So i ran into her but a month later at a store and she ran over to me. She says i gotta tell you something. She's there's no question that those traumas. We worked on where claire i could think about. It wasn't feeling the emotion. She's but when you told me my mind clear the other. She's i didn't believe you. She's but i was at universal studios on the weekend with my daughter and my husband and i was riding on the escalator and i was looking over the railing. And she's my daughter said mom look at what you're doing. I never told you. I had a fear of heights. We never discussed it. And it's gone. Well i could go up to the top of the escalator and look and watch people walking underneath the bridge. She says that was impossible. Before so. whatever event created that also cleared right when it learned that process. The whole premise. That we start off with our whole program is that there's nothing wrong with you and there's nothing wrong with your mind. Your mind works perfectly fine. What's been interfering with it performing at its highest level and my experience has been. There's been vincent experiences that your mind. Filters through. So if i had a filter and i pour water through the filter the water is gonna come out clear But if i stuff it full of mud and i pour water through it. it's gonna come out muddy. There was nothing wrong with the water. Right is filtering through which i call atmospheric conditions so my wife's atmospheric conditions were dark and stormy so her thoughts. It'd be filtering through it. Her thoughts are not going to be clear. That statement that there's nothing wrong with you is a really big thing. I had become super convinced. Like there's something wrong with me. Not because like. I i want to do certain things and i'm just it doesn't work and it was Ducks raymond's work. That was like there's nothing wrong with me however avid hardware problem. Mike like there's something wrong with my brain. And i did a bunch of trans personal psychology work and work on on traumas like. Oh okay. there's a bunch of things that are including me that are in the way that filtering and algae or you know you can be a bright shining light but you know if there's deadbug delivery windshield it's not gonna come out and whatever the metaphor is just those words you know. There's nothing wrong with you even if you're doing stuff you're ashamed of or that you don't want to be doing it. There's a reason for it. I think that's incredibly liberating. And that's how i start with the whole program is. I say you couldn't have done it any other way. Based on the way your mind produces thoughts so if your mind is filtering through all this garbage to come up with a thought it couldn't have come up with a different thought and so once. We clear that filter out is going to change the thought process so one of the things i do is we set at target and what i say is my target fused when you leave here today. Your mind's going to be updated rebooted refreshed and adjusted which will allow allow it to operate. Clear calm at peace with understanding which then produces thoughts at are beneficial appealing impossible. And so that's my intention and target for them when they come in and so when their mind makes those updates. It changes its operations which changes his product. So people come in they. Would they go to florida and they spend one four hour session with you. Correct sleep at hotel. They fly home then. They listen to a series of audio's each day for about twenty eight days. Okay and we have twenty one days. What we call walking behaviors because we're dealing with two memory systems. We're dealing with the implicit memory. The way we store all the details and data and then we're dealing with procedural memory which is what we learned through repetition the same as the animal brain so that memory built codes. And that's what i say. Addiction is addiction is if you had had a lady come in who would be on heroin and she said to me. I have self destructive behavior. Nice it really. Why would you think your self destructive. She's sticking a needle my arm with heroin. Don't you think that's self-destructive trying to feel better. Bet you like the needling arm. You felt better. So that the substance you're using was destructive. You're not and because you repeat it your subconscious mind doesn't know the good or bad or right or wrong it's literal right so because you repeat it your mind said this must be important for our survival and built a survival code connected up to the substance. That's why it's so hard to stop. And if you're continuing to loop in the trauma your minds gonna continue to activate that code. So we i work on the implicit memory to break down the trauma. That stops looping. Then we want to start building the new code and we're getting a lot of success with addiction because of it. What do you think causes addiction. I think it's pain originally and that they want to stop this pain emotional or could be physical so If they're in emotional pain and then every time they think about it or an environment. That's keeping them in that act of loop they wanna feel better so the mind in the body right or are constantly returning home stasis so if we can take a drug and it can stop our mind from feeling the pain that makes perfect sense so i say to people the reason people use drugs and alcohol because it works. They weren't intentionally trying to go out to be an addict but their mind built the code and so once we get their mind to stop looping through the trauma then all we have to do is get the mind to understand that that code so i if you walk everyday two miles to get food right. But there are snipers and landmines everywhere. You're walking and trying to get the food you get there and back every day and then somebody says why. Are you going that route. One hundred years down the road. There's a big supermarket. Well led really safe. Your mind won't go there instantly because it doesn't know that route so you're going to have to show that route every day and repeat it and go down one yard ten yards twenty yards and what i say is repetition is like research for the brain you proven to it that this is a better code. And that's why you have these audio files as what's going on are you using. Nlp are using neural. Beats by big the. We have tumbler music. We have fluids. We have wind chimes all that as i'm talking and taking them through so much like a hypnotic sort of meditation very quiet peaceful keeping them in alpha brainwaves state and basically then they answer five questions every day. Along with the audio's the audio's the questions are designed to start saying. Is this the behavior. When is this who you are right. And so it's questioning because when we get into a habit of behavior our mind stops thinking anymore. We're just operating so we want to challenge the operational system each day with the questions as you're listening to the audios and then start thinking about new ways of doing things and so people are spending one for our in person. Think does it work over skype ever dude over skype people do it from home. Yeah i've done on. Yeah skype zoom. We also have an online version of in grad. He can do online. And i've done groups. So i did a show sumpter She's a san diego. I've heard of her. But i don't think we've we've met. I think she's in the genius network then okay. Then we've we've probably can met everyone genius that work at least once but It's a big group is a big group. Yeah so i went to her a few months ago and she had one hundred forty people. I took the whole group of one hundred forty people through the session. Wow and people will just said it was transformational. We tr- we clear trauma. So what i did. Is i would bring one person up. I would do a demonstration with that one person and there's something really exciting about a group because there's an energy when you start why people transform right in front of you and clearing a trauma then i take the group to the same technique then it brings somebody else up. We do another demonstration of another technique. We got phenomenal response. People absolutely love bulletproof radio stage of high performance. You're listening to bulletproof radio with dave asprey your dino that hacking your hydration makes pretty much everything in your body worked. Better your biology your brain. You have more energy when there's enough liquid in around your cells and you also know that drinking water alone doesn't cut it. Electrolytes are really important. Especially if you exercise if you're in akito phase the bulletproof diet or if you're intermittent fasting and i've been saying this for ten years and all my books. 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It's better than just putting sultan water. Go to drink. L. m. n. t. dot com slash. Dave and try the new watermelon salt flavor. That's l. e. dot com slash. Dave if you don't like it they'll give you a full refund and you don't even have to send it back this stuff works. I'm really excited about today's interview. Today's guest is dr. Ted patrick kozo and i'm really excited talk with him. Because he's a geek from artificial intelligence land who turned into an anti aging guy. We're talking about being a leader in fields like medical informatics artificial intelligence quantitative trading and most. Interestingly maybe is the mathematics of consciousness ted. Welcome to the show. Thank you day. Thank you for having me now you are. I think the technical term is crazy. Smart guy because you've been quoted as saying that on bad days you're accuser one hundred and eighty six and on good days. It's ten true yes true. It's more measured like this. At the time that it was measured there were only four billion people on earth and it was one in one billion right so now that are eight billion. I presumed there's eight in. There's there's eight now beef billion so you less cool than you used to be i. I'm less cold than it used to be. I wanted to start there not so that you could say. I'm super smart. Although anyone who hears this interview is going to figure that out pretty quickly. I was fascinated just to hear that you've paid enough attention that say well. I have a twenty point swing just about a little bit more than twenty points just based on how am i doing biologically right now and so just to be able to talk about. That's important for people with various closer to schizophrenia. I'm kidding. I just positives because a frame and you know one of the things i noticed dave in terms of the variance is that on on days of local of native performance. He for me is my incapacity to integrate. A lot of things together and begin to compartmentalize a lot of things. Which is what happens. Their you're right you you compartmentalize a lot of things and when you are on high functioning stage. You're able to integrate the things in fact you're able to step away from what your ego wants to do. You observe the ego and ego wants to do and you actually observe all the other variables in the situation that you're assessing of whether it'd be a bryant or a patient or a situation business situation of the deal with a computer problem a mathematical problem. Then what of the one of the things that was so interesting with us being taught you know heavy geometry and bio mathematics by mant or who was the pioneer in in medical informatics. Globally billion memorial. He said i was working in an equation. And you know. I couldn't remove this constant in there because it was a constant and then he looks at me and said you know ted. Each murder is part of the solution. Don't take it off the table dark. But ice thought his point he was referring to a mathematical equation so when they took away the constant i found my solution. See that kind of thinking comes to you. You know when you're not compartmentalize when you're functioning at one hundred percent you see that. There's nothing in there that you have held sacred that's actually indispensable and suddenly your mind is able to actually find other solutions for it that that only makes sense to become useful in the long run if someone whether there are medical practitioner listening or Someone who's interested in learning more. How would you go about measuring your metabolism. Like what are the tests that you look at to help understand what's going on in a patient. Currently they use are made by genova. You know they have a the neutral which is from urine and they test your levels of vitamins minerals and so on you could get the plassmann meaner acid levels also and then to take the facts which is stalled to see whether or not have any leaky gut. And then to see the profile of your gut bacteria metabolize actually throwing inside your body your levels of short chain fatty acids and so on And then i also take The gut sensitivity testing. And i you know to see what foods can be removed in order to decrease your molecular inflammation and. I know there are a lot of pros and cons about doing this. But you know it's the best that we have right now and it worked so why not use it. Let's be magic about it. You know let's not fight about the test if they work you know if there's any improvement in the future short the great improvement so you look at those levels. And then you know you if there's a borderline bucks you it out. If there is a a border shuttled obsessively off borderline deficiency. You put it in and remember. I'm looking at values. The normal code that code values are not relevant to us. We use optimal values optimal values. Are those found at age. Twenty to thirty. And i use thirty because thirty stocks levels in men drop. And that's a watch. I use as might a- gauge Thirty interesting gave last two or three years ago. There was a sixty thousand call four. It'd be epidemiologic. The that was presented in europe where they found out that even men h. e. were experiencing our functioned from endocrine-disrupting chemicals. You know the the chemical environment Serves their endocrine systems or hormone systems crossing a drop into saucer on so that was a very interesting study. Then then after you know after comparing that you tried to move empire network. And here's my network background. I tried to move into the network of hormones and nutrients over do when you were twenty one to thirty now. That's the science of if you cannot just move one because when you touch one the rest of the network will move right and i call that network. Wide range shifting. You know you shift empire network The the the mistakes that we made even underage medicine for example made many years ago is that they gave hormone singly. you give estrogen unopposed. Of course you've got breast cancer you'd give you also an unopposed. You get all sorts of side effects. You have to move down our network because all of them balance out each other inside the body so you have to move by network now. That's a science but the art of it is if the patient already starts feeling well and says i am good at this level. Then you stop at the level temporarily until you remeasure you know you you for the first year. I recommend that you get measured everything months second year every six months there after and this is how you invest in yourself. You're investing in your health by by doing this because no illness medicine doctors going to do this for you. If someone came to tomorrow and said. I wanna perform better at everything. I do as a human being. What three pieces of advice would you have for them okay. They've i'm prepared for this. I old wisdom. Ask dr ted how you live your life. And i say i live my life like a video game and a video. Game has three components life health and time life. I only have one of them. So you know in your video game you can have as many lives but this is only life we have so. I don't place myself. Unnecessary risk true. Go jumping go skydiving. But i'll never never going to chase echo. Just cut me off the road because humans are uncertainly dangerous. So don't get killed by human factors the thing you you cannot get killed by ghosts but you can get killed by a human so that the the second is health you know in pacman where you eat those cherries et cetera. You get stronger and healthier. So you know be healthy You know do things that will make you healthy. You provide a lot of advice. of being healthy and one of the things. The most difficult things that was asked me is. How does health physician. Medicine bake hugh spiritually healthy right. And this is ashley. Psychiatric spirituality is is a component of healing. And said you know that's really very simple right. The is the spirit molecule you know. Lack of spirituality is called the dmp deficiency syndrome. Give the and the ball starts rolling but anyway not only your physical emotional and mental health but also a spiritual health and your energetic and then time and i alluded to this earlier. How do you want to spend your time. you know. And they're do things that i ask myself is what's worth doing in once. Lifetime ran us up person and for development of a method software. Observes eagle the time. So you can you know. Went to engage engage in particular situation continuing practice. And the second is what's worth doing in the service of the planet earth other people other creatures you know. That's not just you. You belong empire network off of of being syra earth and we all just currently have one planet that we live in and so what's worse doing in the service of that of other people creatures and a planet you know so if you decide what kind of time you went to spend and spend it in high quality then do that. Do that thing that you're passionate about and scientific parlance dave. I would like just lead to something. That's more very simple. Don't fuck with my time and why won't fuck with yours so so life health and time by may life. As video game bulletproof radio created and is hosted by dave aspirin the executive producer darcy. Himes podcast assistant bev hamson. His podcast is for information purposes. Only statements and views expressed on this podcast or not medical advice. This podcast including dave aspirin. 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Speaker Preview 1: Human Upgrades at the 7th Annual Biohacking Conference : 856

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"Bulletproof radio station. High performance your listening to bulletproof radio with dave asprey this special episode features high impact short tips from bulletproof radio guests. Who are going to be presenting at the seventh annual biohacking conference. I'm looking forward to seeing you. There in orlando florida. September seventeenth nineteen to connect learn and find the coolest new ways to upgrade yourself. If you're listening from somewhere else you're gonna get a lot of these pieces of motivation from this episode. We're talking about hard earned and well learned pieces of knowledge from leaders and mavericks. That are going to help you figure out how to step outside your comfort zone and do stuff. That doesn't feel like you can do it. 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In other words. I can handle more decisions every single day. Go to neuro hacker dot com code. Dave and save fifteen percent off your first purchase of quality of mind near hacker will give you a risk free trial with one hundred day money back guarantee so your brain will work better or you can send it back. That's neuro hacker dot com. Use code dave fifteen for fifteen percent off. Today's guest is a board certified. Integrative neurosurgeon named dr marcella madeira marcello. Welcome to the show. Thank you for having me. I'm actually really cool to be able to chat with you. And i'm not post anesthesia with all sorts of weird goofy things on my head which last time i'd like to start out by saying what made you an integrative neurosurgeon because those words sort of feel oppositional to me like like most of the time surgeons are the ones who are like. I don't know hit it with antibiotics and i can stop a human heart and i'm so tough in here. You are not only doing stuff. You dr barry mortgage loans energy exercises. You operate like you're out there. How do you have you exist in both worlds. What made you this way. So i had many years of taking care of patients where i had this rigorous surgical training at hopkins for my fellowship. And i really had the feeling over. And over and over that. I wanted to treat patients holistically and i felt like there was so much more that i could offer to patients in terms of their whole life and their whole health as opposed to just finding a place to cut. So that's how i started my journey. Can you talk more about nerve assumes surgery circadian stuff like what have you learned especially as an integrative practitioner that might be applicable. Everyone listening if they're gonna get any kind of surgery well for surgery Optimizing sleep before surgery is really important. And that's something from an integrative perspective. I never talked about that before. I was doing integrative work But certainly you know surgery is extremely traumatic to your system and so my entire process leading up to surgery or even if it's a small procedure not a surgery is optimizing. The stress response inflammation response and trying to keep people as calm cool rested and well Even better than their normal state of health leading up to surgery so sleep is incredibly important before and then afterwards depending on how big the surgery is and how long people are in the hospital Most of the things that i do in my integrated practice are actually pretty small surgeries because one of my goals with practices to minimize the size of surgery that i do actually doing small mentally basic things but if you're in the hospital for a few days or with medications that you're taking all of that can disrupt sleep and the more sleepy. Get the better. You're going to feel the better. You're going to heal. That's very very bar will hospital environments suck my best to stay out of the hospital okay. That's the statement. All of us would say unless we work in one. But i think the only time i've really spent any time in the hospital was maybe four years ago. I stepped on a rusty nail and like i find whatever I had a shot a while back. I don't know. But i spent eight hours in the hospital like i couldn't sleep in this hospital to save my life and like if i was going to have surgery beeping and horrible lighting and constant interruptions and like how does anyone in a hospital. Well i will say to. The whole process of being in the hospital sets off a stress reaction which sets off inflammation. And we do know that inflammation can affect the circadian in rhythm that there is there are connections chemically between circadian rhythms and inflammation. So what do people do in the hospital. I mean number one. We tried to do the smallest surgery. Possible to get them out as quick as possible For my patients who are in my do integrative program before and after actually have them listen to the breathing exercises while they're in the hospital after really anytime they could leave the breathing exercise on all night and that helps with sleep I also have another auto genyk Exercise that came from another from a neurosurgeon who is a holistic pain. Doctor now That helps manage pain with cognitive exercises. So managing pain is a big part of it. A you're in the hospital to get sleep and then keeping your nervous system calm as well but the number one thing is quick. Surgery stays Short time as you can't envision a future were hospitals actually help you heal by designing their environments to be a little bit human friendly and a little bit less like being inside of frigerator. I've no idea have you been describing. I do i think So that's a great way to talk about a project that working on with the medical school here in austin so dull. Medical school has supported me with this project of. How do we reduce pain after lumbar fusion. And they're actually letting me. Add some integrative techniques to the pathway before and after surgery so we're even getting anti inflammatory diet in the hospital Amazingly what do you. What do you recommend so this is something you listen to this. You get sexual surgeon about an integrative surgeon okay. What do you before surgery. And this is before neurosurgery before any kind of surgery. So what kind of food changes do you make for people before they go in. So i really design a food discussion based on how much i think. The patient can manage Some people come to see me and they already know what you know where the meat sources that are important. What are the good ones are boston's any barbecues. Fine right there. There are some places that are are better source than others prospered. Yeah but there are some patients that come and have a wide variety of other people ever heard That that actually gluten and dairy can be inflammatory or have never believed it and have never heard a conventional doctor. tell them that it is important so The other thing is leading up to surgery is stressful. And so i don't want to give people a hundred things to do leading up to surgery especially if they're surgery if they need to do something pretty quickly they got severe nerve compression or something so i really designed it based on what the patient can feasibly manage without too much stress so typically what that is. The simplest thing is very simple low inflammatory diet. Low dairy low gluten cutting both of those that they can We do talk to them about fat. Sources trying to get grass-fed If they can and the grass fed butter we talk about butter and cheese either. European sources or grass-fed sources in in austin or. We're really lucky. We have great farmers markets and a whole foods is from here so we actually people have access to really great stuff here. So i try to keep it as simple as in compact as i can if they're surgeries coming up pretty quickly For patients who want to dig really deep answer the ones who don't want to die and suffer less after surgery those ones okay. Yeah keep going. Yeah for those. We just do a more intense anti inflammatory diet And i have you know being a neurosurgeon i. I have a lot of colleagues who are integrative in functional medicine doctors who have very specific do lab testing and do soil testing. If people wanna get really deep into that i refer them to one of my Really expert colleagues state of high performance. You're listening to bulletproof radio with dave asprey. It seems like every day. Someone's ask me about cbd. 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Today's guest is a dear friend An adviser a mentor and someone who is really working hard to change the world on multiple fronts a multi guest on the show author of a book and ceo of a company called volume. That you know. I'm a big fan of. I'm talking about none other than navene jane. Navene welcome to the show. While dave is always an honor and a pleasure to be on your show and no one that i keep coming back. Most people taught even our immune system actually stops at the blood brain barrier now. They found immune system all the way to the brain. Glenfiddich system your lymphatic system in also the communication between the bacteria organisms in the gut to the brain interesting. What's interesting what what happens in the gut doesn't stay in the when you are anxious. You got the butterflies in the stomach. When you're depressed what do you do you eat or you don't eat why is it. The digestive system is actually impacting. The brain it may turn out that as you mentioned that we may be just a wonderful beautiful container for these microorganisms for us to spread them around by pooping every year which is literally why they may have created us and they control our mood our behavior and craving which i found to be personally just amazing i would have. I used to crave the desert after every meal because to meet what exclamation mark. My meal is done senior ice cream but hit interesting park after i gave. Tv's just willpower. I just don't do it anymore. i don't need it. So what is it. That happened after three the willpower. After three weeks. I kill those bastards. Who were making me clear that don't come anymore. Don't get any more so my point is little that we know the controlling every part of her body. They are the puppet masters and one db going to realize that you know. I'm gonna digress. For a second year we talked about in humans having a soul right. And that's something that's eternal and when we died the soul goes away. I wonder if they were really talking about microbial. Put more or less microbiome move from one host to another host and a soldier simply merges into the nature and find some new host right. I believe the origins of consciousness are bacterial in in humans. Unquestionably the ego itself is a function of contra matter contra bacteria bacteria talk to each other the guts bacteria talked to them does. That's how we work. So microbiome mytalk andrea communicating that microbiome. Literally every bit every bit in our body is communicating the bacterial organism de were the athenian. How billion years ago. They had a lot of time to think lot of time to wall the humor. Suddenly couple of hundred thousand years old. We are still learning to communicate among ourselves so another thing really learned is now we can see the signatures all the diseases just by looking at you got microbiome fence. Cvs saying we can see the onset of depression onset of obesity diabetes ibs and then just from bacteria we can actually tell you you have ibs we can tell you have joint pain got arthritis and amazing things happen as you adjust to the micronutrients and micronutrients come in the form of supplements and on possibly even food and then you're able to adjust the biochemical activities using artificial intelligence amazing. Things happen via able to our hope is in the next five to ten years. We're going to be sitting here and talking about it and saying i can't believe there was people ten years ago. Who suffered through life. They had cancer and died. They had heart disease. Didn't know what to do with our kids are going to laugh at us. You mean people to just for the rest of their life because they just didn't know what you're everyone eight. The same diet would not eat the diet that works for me. It's obvious right. And mom and dad had lucy meal everyday. This sat around the table and eat the meal. You mean didn't have the personalized customized pd printed meal just printed for them and the statin eat together however meals who different for each person because going to be personalized. The idea of this consumer packaged goods are going to go away. They'll be packaged goods. Everything will be on demand personalized just for you. Customer and customized for you. That is what you're doing. Amazing stuff. Because i really believe the next ten years. The idea of people having chronic diseases going to go away. And that's our mission to create a ward. We're being sick is truly a matter of choice not a matter bad luck and it will happen daniels from now we wouldn't be discussing. This doesn't mean we won't have any other problem. Your kids are going to talk about and say why do we have to speak to actually trust for our parts to another person. You just had such a low bandwidth speaking to transfer you have a broadband seven g that just everybody understood your thoughts and they were just done and by the way you were sat in the class for four years bologne front. Learn about the things. You didn't just applaud their brain into you're done you know. The world is going to be so much cooler than it already as and you can see the slope of change if you've worked on it for decades and if you're sort of news this going how clean that'd be possible. I didn't see it last year because things are happening four times faster this year than they were last year high performance. Today's guest someone if you've listened to the show before you might know who he is. And if you're in hollywood or something you might know who he is but let me tell you a quote about this guy This is a quote jim. Quick knows how to get the maximum out of me as a human being. You know said that will smith so this is a guy who for twenty eight years has been the primary cognitive performance in brain trainer for huge huge people in hollywood. Jim quick. I is a good friend and he has taught many of the fortune. Five hundred ceos how to suck in the information the way they have to do it. People who are at extreme levels of performance that the very top people in hollywood and after twenty eight years of doing this with a fascinating story. He said. I guess. I should write a book. I've talked to two hundred thousand people a year In live things about how to make them read faster and remember things and do things that literally normal people say are impossible. Jim welcome to bulletproof radio. I think for your second time. Maybe a third dave. Thanks for having the in. Thank you everyone who's joining us. What is an limiting the way you're defining in the book because i think that was the title. Is that limitless. Although i chose. What is you've seen. You've seen the movie limit known for early. Use medicinal which you will call the limiting so yeah definitely so everybody knows bradley cooper and robert deniro and he goes from zero to hero So i don't have the pill. But i have the process for bradley cooper's able to learn languages being able to read fasters. Had this incredible memory. He had incredible focus determination and drive and But i figured out the processes for those things that i put them in the book. The on the process of limiting is the act of removal of barriers and borders around the things that we want to accomplish and again limitless is not about being perfect. It's progressing and advancing beyond what we believe is possible and i created a three part framework that it's easy to understand and very very practical where people can see themselves in there and be able to take media action. And so when i talk about this about being limitless. There's there's a quote. I opened the book with from a french philosopher that says life is the sea between b and d. Life is the sea between be in d. uber think. I'm speaking in tongues or code. Be as birth death. See life is choice and i really do believe that. Our life is serious. Sum total choices. We made up to this point about little things. Like you know that added to make things like what you're gonna put in your body in which you're gonna feed your body which feed your mind you know whether you're in a move today or not where you're gonna live time with. You're gonna marry all these choices right where we notice goal all those choices and i do believe that that is the ultimate superpowers are ability to make decisions. These difficult times that we're in right now. These difficult times can diminish us. These difficult times can define us or these difficult times can develop us. We decide right and so limitless is about getting power back so i want everyone to pictures three intersecting circles and it kind of looks like mickey mouse the of two years that are overlapping and one face so then diagram. Ben diagram threes intersecting circles. They all they all overlap a little bit and these are. I want you to think about an area of your life where you feel limited. I want you to think about specifically in the area of your life where you're not making progress. It could be in your career. It could be in your income. It can be in your impact your contribution it could be in your relationships. It can be in your physical wellbeing. What area of your life could be learning right. You feel like you're not making progress. You can't your memories on making progress. You're reading speed your focus. It's something is keeping you feel like you're in a box. Are it's think about one area of your life and milwaukee through this exercise. This box is three dimensional so there are three forces that keep you in that box and these are the three circles because either same three forces that will liberate you from that box and the reason. Why do this is because you can't change something that's invisible bright if you don't if you don't give it a name you can't be able to. You can't influence if you don't know it doesn't exist so here the three forces the first circle is your mindset three. M's i alliterate everything. I use acronyms for everything. Use pneumonic everything to make a very memorable three times. The first amateur mindset now i'm gonna define mindset as your assumptions and attitudes towards something here assumptions and attitudes towards the world. How it works Attitudes assumptions about yourself Would fall in this circle that would be very relevant. Are what you believe is possible. Also in the circle what you believe you are capable of because you could believe something is possible and you could believe you could not believe that you're capable of achieving that right but somebody else could so what you believe is possible what you believe you're capable of and what you believe you deserve going there. Also so that's the. I m that your mindset now last them as a spoiler i mentioned are the methods right and this book was primarily a text book on how to unlock the most important technology. Which is your brain yet without. If if i teach you if i teachers tried you for learning a language faster or remembering walk into a room meeting twenty strangers remembering all their names but your mindset says i'm too old unto stupid. I'm not smart enough. I have a horrible memory. Then you're still stuck in that box right because all behavior is believed driven. Young people come to me all the time at conferences. It me out in private in their jim. I have a horrible memory whom talk like weights up. If you fight for your limitations you get to keep them if you fight for your limits. Their yours and people are always doing that. And i am telling your brain like a supercomputer and yourself. Talk is the program. It will run so if you tell yourself. You're not good at remembering names. You will not remember the name of the next person because you program your supercomputer not to your mind is always eavesdropping on yourself. Talk and so that that's part of mindset right and that's why it's important you to learn the method but you can believe is not possible or you might believe you're not capable of it or you might not believe you deserve that relationship or the lizard that body or deserve that income rights and so you go through a process of on limiting those lies and in the book. I point out seven. Globally mass accepted lies around learning and intelligence and potential. There's a new medical probiotic in town. 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Because i mean this is a guy who is about a superhuman against joe. Welcome to the show. Thank you now. My head is so big. I won't be able to get back in my house. You said something. That was actually the reason i wanted to invite you on the show. Just when he's calm i and you said the spartan race was intended to wake up the world and save humanity which is kind of a big claim spartan race. What do we need saving from. So and you probably talk about on on manatee or Previous podcast but my big thing is We've been on the planet. Let's let's call it a million years just around numbers. It's only last two hundred two hundred and fifty. Maybe that we live the way we live. Climate-controlled houses coffee on demand We're basically living in bubble. Wrap some of us not the whole world and so it was interesting to me. The reason that's relevant is as i was building these businesses especially the construction swimming pool business. Is it intrigue me that foreigners would out work any american. I could hire they if i was maniac. I wanna work twenty hours a day and very few people could keep up with me but the foreigners could outworked me and and that just for twelve years fascinated me and i finally came to realize it's a frame of reference issue right these guys and girls from from these countries that don't live in that bubble. Wrap life that don't have food as readily as we do that that have maybe in some cases i mean you look at bosnia they burn. They're the wood in their roof to heat the house until they have no roof and so So that just intrigued me. These were tough gritty. People that were just happy. All the time to be alive. Have water and food and a job and so Spar a is a minor attempt to get us the bubble wrap society to get a taste of what that feels like it out of our conference on getting mud act like a human face obstacles and maybe hopefully change frame of reference. I i've had some of my best night's sleep on a bed of rocks and boulder and thought to myself this so damn comfortable and i used to think that i. I haven't pushed myself hard enough until i can lay on some really sharp rocks and it feels good so So yeah. I i agree. I think I think taking yourself to that level where your muscles finally relax and gave up on where you get to a place where i used to say where you just want water food and shelter. That's a really nice place to be right all the other stuff that we live with an all these headaches and all these pressures are irrelevant when you get back a water food and shelter so you said the phrase. I can't doesn't mean anything to me anymore. Not because of my ego. But because i know anything is possible. So you're you're bringing up like the effects of ego on performance there. So how do you have you deal with your own ego when you're hitting your wall and when your body's saying no like how do you overcome that. What's the strategy wrong. I try to use my ego to get me through right. So what i like to do is publicly announced. I'm gonna do something. So it's it's sunday and i don't know if i'm ready but i want to raise money for hospital care so i'm saying alright wednesday. I'm leaving i'm gonna run three hundred miles straight back publicly commit. I sent an email to everybody. I know i don't really wanna run three hundred miles straight no-one ties but i i go to trap myself and so at mile seven com exhausted at mile forty. I can't take another step. But i told everybody my ego now is the thing that's keeping me going. And and so. That's how i. I use my ego but but as far as knowing anything's possible it's it's being in those situations where you're completely done. You can't take another stab you lay down. You want to just be dead. And somehow you doing other eight days ghana's also transcendence of egos known you like. I'm just going to do it. And that's the point where you you realize that you had limited about. Didn't even know you. Just keep gone somehow. Just keeps going until i guess thankfully. I haven't gotten to that place. Read dead but some point. I guess everyone that. I've i've met at least as far as i know. Do you have some kind of tech. Do you use technology to keep your ego in check or to get yourself into a flow state like is there any trick there or is this. Just like pure on willpower. Yeah i don't. I'm not a technology guy at all. I don't wanna know i don't wanna know my heart rate is don't wanna know anything. I just Less is more one step in front of the other. Small little goals really really detailed paying attention to the tiny little decisions like gee. I feel a hot spot in my foot. Let me take my shoes off. Let me adjust justice situation. Even if i lose twenty minutes here because thirty miles from now that could turn into a blister that turns into a blister walking funny walking funny turned into a hip problem that i'm out of the race really paying those tiny little things. I've i've had a stephen colorado talk about studying flow states and things like that so different athletes from different disciplines. Enter it in a different way. But i mean any other details so like you're you're pushing yourself really hard and you went into the space but tell me more about what. What's it like for me. It's this ability to go beyond anything. I ever did training or any race before and all of a sudden and You're not running out of breath. Your heart rate doesn't matter Just us moving. But i'm not talking about for ten minutes this for ten hours. Just you don't need water. You don't need food Seeing all kinds of crazy things hallucinating. All kinds of things just an amazing place to be it by the crash and some you said you do crash point i you crash you come down off that and and then you got to recover but but but while you're ended it's pretty awesome. So what do you do to recover after race. You know you've been in a flow state. Push yourself really far you hallucinated. You know you won. You achieve your goal in then like you're sore you heard and like what is it pizza and beer to mean an egg yolks. What do you do. you're gonna you're not gonna like this one ice cold water. Oh no i don't do cold. Temperatures said nice water. Just one of those things to tell the body to shut up. I i support that so you actually get in ice water ice water gotta find that mean. We live in a cold place here and we've got. I got a cold pond that somehow stays in the forty degree temperature range all year and just fixes things fast so you said an ice for how long i might do a half hour forty minutes. When i've gone back to back events i'll i'll do multiple ice bats. I could do five eight ten of them for twenty minutes. He just just out back in outbreak back in. Wow that's pretty hard core so when you're when you're not just recovering from a race do you normally like every week. Expose yourself to cold to keep your vegas tone. Or how does that work. I like to take cold showers just to piss myself off. I am it just wakes you up i. I like to do anything that i don't like to do. Whatever whatever my mind says. I don't feel like doing then force myself to do a lot of discipline but what what an amazing practice right. I mean jeb that that that works bulletproof radio stations high performance. You're listening to bulletproof radio with dave asprey today. We're going to talk about something that has a name that you probably aren't going to like it's called sperm dean. Yes it comes from release was discovered in that which it sounds like. And if you've read my anti-aging book superhuman i talked about my quest to obtain sperm meeting. And no it's not. There's so many jokes will make right now and we're not gonna make those but it turns out it's been incredibly difficult to get in when i wrote the book. You couldn't get it other than as a research chemical recently it has become a available And it has all kinds of interesting effects on your health on your long jetty and is something i wanted to talk about. But i felt like. I couldn't share with you guys. The only way to get it was to illegally import a type of probiotic from japan. Which is what. I did for superhuman We can do better than that. So that's what this episodes about. Our guest is dr betty earth. And she's doing research was burma. Dean has a Doesn't extract is a natural form you can get and what it does for aging for various health conditions. She's a physician. Who's run the boulder longevity institute for more than fifteen years an orthopedic doctor and she's a longtime member of the american academy of anti-aging medicine. This is the the people who kinda created anti-aging medicine. It's actually where. I met my wife many many years ago and she worked with the company called longevity. Labs that has introduced permadi for the first time into the us market. Which is really cool. betsy or doctor. You're welcome to the show. thanks. Dave actually really excited to be here. I've been a long time. Listener of your podcast. I have long considered sperm leading as important as good a theon. But i couldn't get it. Do you think it's as important i. I think it's more important quite for how okay again friendly look at the number of things. This this does right mean we. We went back again. And i think it's going to come back to. It's really working right there. On that whole you know of the kanji on the oxygen fuss relation pathway to to to to change your metabolic health and think you know your your podcast. You did with jason fung recently you. It's going come and metabolic. Health is a big key player in cancers and alzheimer's and dementia so if we can restore normal metabolic health which is making the mighty kondracke healthy and that's right where it works. I think it's working base layer lower than glutathione is and it's probably going to be really you know if right now if you were to ask me is a one supplemented by abandoned everything else and that would be hard for me to do. But if i band at everything else. This is the one substance that we can absolutely say this in our diet. It's across every eukaryotic species. Right every single species every once all the everybody has so we know it's critical to life. We absolutely no. It's critical life engine preserved for that many species. We know absolutely critical. So i think that that when you look at all those things it's doing. How important is we have all these studies now. That are showing. The you know that it's affecting immune health brain health cardiovascular health joint health. I think y- you can't really say that about so that one substance that i would take i had could take only one thing it would be spurning. We know that spermatozoon is protective of the liver. Is this something that you should take. If you're going to drink alcohol. I've always told people. Yes take on but should you stack would ends permadi and if you're gonna have a night of partying it's really. It's actually very liver protecting that. Some of the actually the bigger studies that have been done. Permadi is in the liver and it it increases in our f too. So it's it's very very very protective deliver and actually reversed liver disease and people. We've used it in patients who have just alterations and liver function sometimes unclear. why right. Deliver such a sensitive organ sometimes forgot why the liver you know. He started to elevation. Transam aces is a little difficult. You go through. You know limiting everything. They're taking oral. Lay people aren't drinking and still as an allegation reflections. You really nice improvements in libya. I think it's both protective but also restorative to liver function seeing the same thing in kidneys as well. So i think i think it'd be really useful thing like i said i would take it every day but i would probably say yes. You're going to go out for a night of binge drinking. Don't advise it but you're going gonna do that then then i would. I would at least take a double dose of it and and and giving liver protection and again or is it. More important than glued defiant at least equally important in liver function. Wow so i. I have known. It's an anti aging powerhouse. And you know about some the size. I just haven't seen a which this is fascinating to me. Because i didn't know that much about the liver entity and specifically talking about fat loss in weight loss. Earning what are the study. Show so so brian kennedy. Who's out of in singapore. They're lab just a bunch of work on sperm and fell off and it's interesting because the the way it really appears to work on fat losses by actually increasing some of the that the transactions that are converting fat and it worked specifically on visceral fat. So it was actually really really important for for visceral fat. Which as you know is more dangerous fat and sometimes very hard fat to get rid of you. Look around that yes around the organs and you when you look at these you know the six year old guys who have the dad bots and the bill bellies and you know that that's a really dangerous but it's also really hard fat sometimes to get rid of and what they found was when they took mice and they gave him sperm and put them on a high fat diet that totally protected them from from from gaining visceral fat so it works particularly works in young works old mice that it works really particularly well on on on that visceral or nor bad fat and brown fat so dangerous. You can't you can't see around your organs but have heinz yet highs around your organs but most people who have that big belly. Most of those people have visceral fat. Why we can measure. Donald or conference and make estimation of this fat based on just abdominal circumference that those people have higher levels so yes they found that it increased the policies basically by up regulating these these these triglycerides transam nieces. That are moving the fat out so it was really protected. Even though it didn't directly affect in the metabolic status to increase weight loss it wasn't like it increased metabolism. And so your weight. Wisconsin really was very specific working on some these trans eminences. Ms converted the white fat so it was really interesting and his study was it was. It was crossed the border. It was not age dependent sex dependent and it didn't seem even though we know that it's bermuda also works on tough aji in fat cells. It didn't actually seemed even not related to that. And so there's this. Up regulation of of all these different transactions. We look the fat policies pathways. So it was really cool in that realm. You know so again. Is there anything that doesn't do bulletproof station high performance. You're listening to bulletproof. Radio with dave asprey. We're going to talk not just about probiotics but specifically about some very interesting research. That's coming out about microbiome and about certain types of products that's that form spores and the yesterday were catalyst for my favorite bulletproof radio. Podcast title ever took us out armor plated immortal probiotics from space. That was episode number. Six twenty nine and these are guests from just thrive health teen anderson in in christian guys. Welcome to the show. Thank you day here. You guys are hacking. I i i i actually know what they are. Because some of the things. I make are specific to increasing. Iggi but you've got a new take on the so define what an issue is how that refers to tetanus and just give me the give me the down low on this well i g g is an antibody as you know and I g is one of the most common antibodies that are found in the body and so It's job is to bind to toxins and bacter- bad bacteria and viruses and other bad stuff in our gut and neutralize them and have them safely removed from her body. Yes so and you know what's To add to what. Tina saying the way we even came across this with the with the whole concept of utilizing i g g for gut. Health right is We were part of small consortium of companies that were working with hiv researchers To study what we can do about something. Hiv the so the nih published a study things twenty fourteen that showed that the best predictor of mortality in hiv and aids patients was the degree of leaky nece in their gut right And they call it. Hiv interrupted the. Because what tends to happen in that condition is you get start getting all of this mucosal inflammation gut lining damage and then you develop the the Opportunistic infections that come along right and in fact the progression from hiv aids is dictated by how leaky gut is. Wow right so then the the nih actually propose a challenge of the research community and said if you can find a solution for aegean sympathy at the we could probably significantly reduce the pathogenesis of the disease. How it progresses and mortality rate so on so there were a couple of companies including ourselves that have things that are therapeutic in the gut that work on the lining of the god the barrier function. We met this company that has this immunoglobulin product and at that point. They had to publish studies in hiv patients. Showing that when you take bovine immunoglobulins which is coming from the bovine serum so cow serum and you introduce it orally into hiv patients. You actually Reestablish the formation of the mucosal lining you bring down inflammatory response in the gut lining even in hiv which is an accelerated form a leaky gut and then it allows for the repair of the gut lining. So what is the just thrive. Id g like you have ultimate. I g it's new thing you guys made. What is what is it doing. Well it all. It's also dairy free which is great advantage and it has more than you would find in most classrooms. This is a three percent urged. Powdered supplement element essentially. Awesome by the way. We're not doing the way protein. That'd be Just because i've focused really on college and we have so many products before your brain just saying that the bsa is the research is insane and it is It's just an unknown thing in the world even if biohacking bodybuilders in the eighties looked at it yet but in terms of restoring gut. It's i think he goes on to something very very potent there. Yeah i think. One of the things i just wanted to add. Is you know as a company we really try to bring things to the market that are missing in the market needed in the market. And you know we obviously have so many times worse. You know suppliers coming up to us this. This is the greatest. This is the greatest product in the greatest ingredient. But we really are trying to find things that are backed by research backed by science and bring into the market and that are really making a difference in people's lives. That's really important to us. Bulletproof radio a state of high performance. Bulletproof radio was created in this hosted by dave aspirin the executive producer darcy. Hinds podcast assistant. Bev hamson his podcast is for information purposes. Only statements and views expressed on this podcast. Not medical advice this podcast including dave aspirin. The producers disclaim responsibility for any possible ebeth affects from the use of information contained herein. Opinions of guests are their own in. This podcast is not endure. 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AUTOPHAGY: Set Your Cells in Motion: A Top 10 Episode with Naomi Whittel

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AUTOPHAGY: Set Your Cells in Motion: A Top 10 Episode with Naomi Whittel

"This summer we get to set down our fear and anxiety and open up to travel and gathering and hugging again. So i know that you are going to be spending time outside and getting back to all the activities. They make us better versions of ourselves. That's why i've put together a new podcast series for you called your upgraded summer. These are top ten all time. Bulletproof radio episodes edited for you in a new way to be only thirty minutes. So they work for you. When you're spending your time outside you're gonna learn how to improve your nutrition. Your sleep your brain your got hormones your immune system and your energy and these are the things that people most wanted to hear the most popular topics listen to one. Listen a handful. Listen to all ten but know that you'll be joining millions of people who enjoyed this content. The most ask for more radio station high performance. You're listening to bolt radio. Is dave asprey starting back in two thousand thirteen with slightly less than one hundred people at bar in san francisco. I wanted to build community and spend quality time with people who cared a lot about taking control their own biology doing things to make themselves and others better. Every single day and that small group has grown from less than one hundred two thousands of people and now we are holding it. September seventeenth through nineteenth in florida. And it is going to be an amazing event. Major speakers jim quick on memory vision. Yanni on how you can be a better human being and lots of personal vulne topics. Dr jill carnahan mold. Dr cola cat hoke v jane dr amy killing and many many more. Who you've heard on the show and some you've never heard before talking about things you can't always talk about on a podcast but better yet. It's not just learning is also getting to experience and touch and feel all the tech hundreds of exhibitors with the newest biohacking technologies they get to play with p. m. f. Cryotherapy things will let you get ten times more exercise benefits than you would normally get. You can save ninety percent of your time exercising. Yeah why don't you try that there. How about some tech. Assisted meditation to get years of meditation in a few days or even less vegas nerve wearables and a ton of other things where you actually get to talk to the creators. It is so much fun. And you get to be a part of the tribe. This mike community. This is our community there. Millions of bio hackers and there are thousands of bikers who cares so much about their energy and about connecting with others. That we all get to come together in florida. For three days it's personal development it's cognitive development it's biological transformation and it's going to be so much fun go to biohacking conference dot com and sign up now. The vip tickets are almost sold out and the general mission. Tickets are going fast is going to be the best and biggest conference ever september seventeenth nineteenth. Orlando i'll see you there. Biohacking conference dot com. Today's guest is naomi whittle. Naomi is a fascinating woman because she's a very successful entrepreneur in the supplements and natural product space so successful. That twin lab acquired a company a few years ago and then asked to be ceo so she ceo of one of the largest and most respected supplement companies out there and she's coming on today to talk about her story of how to be a woman entrepreneur and how to really blaze that trail like she has and to get to the very highest levels of what is really competitive and cutthroat business. When you really learn about it and to talk about some new work. She's been doing an even a new book. She wrote those fascinating interview. And now we welcome to the show. Thank you so much dave. I'm thrilled to be here. What got you started. Wanna hear how you got to be into supplements business. I was fourteen. I had moved over from the uk. I grew up in europe. Moved over when i was twelve and i was fourteen getting ready for the spring dance and i had my eyes set on this one boy in my class close. Chester young and i was totally excited to go with him. And the thing about me at that age is a my body. I have an auto. I have a couple of autoimmune disorders but both right and so for me it was exhibiting itself as exa and really severe xmas xmas that would lead in pas and i would cover myself right. 'cause you're like awkward about that and i would cover myself up to you know my wrists and all the way down and i always dressed that way and i would skip a lot of the things that other people would be doing like. I wouldn't go to the pool with my friends and my mother said to me. She's like look honey. It's the spring. It's it's hot outside like you want to be able to just like where your t shirt and shorts. It's no big deal and you have enough friends. You don't need to feel uncomfortable at this point in your life. And so i did that and when i was out my clovis saw me and he didn't invite me to the dance at all. He likes talk. And i'm like okay. This sucks i'm reflection of what's going on outside of my body. I mean boys. He was so i went to every single process. I tried every natural ingredient. That's how i grew up and when this thing happened with clovis i just said i'm going to all take whatever i'll take steroids. I'll do whatever. And i went to my first conventional doctor and it somewhat suppressed the x. mma but ultimately in my twenties i was able to reduce about ninety five percent of the inflammation to acupuncture and to chinese herbs. And so these little chinese herbs like really got me excited about this industry and if you fast forward really quickly i was getting ready to have my child and my husband and i went to my integrative medical doctor and he discovered that before i was ready to get pregnant that i had very heavy metals that a large quantities of heavy metals in my body and he traced it back to those chinese herbs. Goodness and so that. Put me on the path To to get into discovering where things come from and so when i built My nutritional supplement company reserve aaj. I started with the farmers. I started with the soil and i got involved with supply chain. And that's what i've done all these years and that's what really got me interested in the in the industry. It's really funny because my kids live on biodynamic farm. And why when. I'm not in a hotel. Room in miami are now recording. This and i also look at soil because everything starts with soil and it's just offensive. Some of the things that companies will do and it's three layers underneath things and just building a clean products is really hard way harder than ever imagine. Yeah because companies can have the best of intentions but after being poisoned and having that heavy metal toxicity that took so long to to move out of my body after that it was about. It was really about Trusting but verifying and trying to figure out what is really going on and it's hard. There's no doubt what was your first job in supplements business so My first job in the supplements business was actually when i was in college on. My grandmother had a little health food store so my first job was in her health food store. It's not common for ceo's of companies to write a book and you wrote a book called glow fifteen talking about what happens actually in your skin. And i can see why you got that because you had so many skin problems as a child. Walk me through. How skin happens from inside versus outside. I think everyone was will appreciate this. Your skin our skin is our largest oregon right. And we've got three at least three layers of our skin and so the subcutaneous layer you know the durham is and the epidermis. And how they interplay in our health and how they surround our organs and and what they do with the connective tissue. So it's it's so important in my mind what it is that. I'm putting on my skin. Because we're absorbing about sixty percent of it and that's going into our body it's going into our oregon's going into ourselves and so Glow fifteen was was a book that i got I started to write About three and a half years ago and what got me inspired to write. This book was A trip that. I took to collaborate and i was. I'm sourcing the citrus bergamot fruit and there was this one researcher they are dr elizabeth gender and she had me in her lab and we were sitting there working all day and i kept drinking. She she gave me like three or four cups of the citrus spicy. Sort of citrus. Bergamot t were drinking all day. And i asked her wire. Why do you drink so much of this t. I love it. But i'm curious. And what she said to me. Was it activates. Maya toffee and now is the first time i heard that word. That was like four years farm that probe listeners river words so a toffee in greek auto means self and fade g means to eat so it literally means self eating and it means it and what it does at. A cellular level is within each of our cells. We have the ability to activate this process so it eats up the Unneeded organs it. Recycles parts of the cell all of the factors like processed foods environmental toxins so many of these accelerating agers our environment contribute to decreasing the autophagy. That naturally wants to happen in our body. So i found the skin off the expert. Dr richard wang out of the university of texas southwestern and i was like richard helped me find the things that will activate the tofte. Jim my skin. And then i found the exercise physiologists and i said how much exercise do i need to do. And the sleep experts on it and the nutritional experts the food experts. And i put it all together into a plan that i started doing myself. You're fantastic scan. You're just about my age. Do you avoid the sun. I don't avoid that much. I mean like For example i was on the beach this morning. Early growing up in in england like you said you know it's a race every day. I love that weather but as an adult. I've lived in florida my entire adult life. So i don't avoid it. I just go in the sun early in the morning or or late in the evening. And i i need vitamin d like everybody else so i supplement with it but i get it from the sun to what are some of the other things i guess. Let's start from the outside in right. What you do on the outside to activate a tough gene your skin so there are a couple of ingredients. So when i when. I met with dr richard wang and and we spent a lot of time together my my group myself and my team looked at hundreds of different ingredients that would would potentially activate a tough gene skin so one caffeine so we can take the proof. Grinds caffeine is huge for activating a gene skin. On the next one. That i think is very interesting is a ceremonies so ceremonies and you can get them from a lot of different foods like wheatgerm and different things like that and you put them on your skin there powerful you can find them in lots of products ceremonies. Really big okay. So that's another one Another interesting ingredient is tree hellos. which is a sweetener. And there's you know different research out there right now around ingesting but when you put tree haloes on your skin it's really very powerful for activating the youth do drills i do i personally do not much not like what you are saying like all i will use it if i wanna use a sweetener okay It's a very mild three ass. Sweet is from the other ones like rabo serves out something an aside from tree. Eeg see what else would you consider as an external autophagy activator your skin see trump batch. Also i'm a huge fan of virtual. I have been for many eight eight nine years when i first learned about the power of it as a polyphenol so different. Polyphenyls like e. g. c. J. is one but resveratrol has been shown to do great things with the skin. So i'm thinking about my skin all the time from the inside out so it's it's things like The best things i can do for my skin and we talk about it. In glow fifteen is is things like fasting. So intermittent fasting is done every every other day. When i do intermittent fasting coupled with crow teen cycling so levels i know we. We have so much in common and when you do intermittent fasting and protein cycling every other day. You're really activating the toffee. Which is cleansing detoxifying. The cell which is what i need to do and what most people need to do. So i love it. You're saying some days don't eat protein. How low do people need to go in. Your research hit autophagy levels so off on a day so i have high days and low day so every other day like one days a high day and you and you basically would eat as you normally do. There's a hundred forty different foods that you can eat and timing matters but on a on a low day Where you intimate and fast until about noon. That's when you'll have about twenty five grams of protein and you know we both know that fat has to be the dominant macro nutrient in our diets. You go to business meetings. Like i do with. I'm sure you know people from big food. And do they just look at you like you're crazy pants when you eat this way they sure. Do i brought like what i would normally eat for you to see and this is truly my average day. It's like three avocados tons of olive oil. We we have some peanuts here and each of them have one and a half grams of fat. All eat a big handful. Twenty twenty five grams of fat there and had a ton of macadamia nuts. So i've always used a lot of fat like growing up in europe. Fat is our friend right. You get all of the good fat in the food. I never even heard of low fat or no fat. And i disagree with it so much so eating good fats the good oils and then i'm never eating low fat or no fat over the past couple of years so when i sold my company i now running public company and and there's a ton of chronic stress that comes with it but i've dropped ten pounds by activating my toffee by eating more fat than i could ever imagine. Never counting calorie being satiated having that mental focus and dealing with chronic chronic stress. And i believe it's really through that first. Carbs last intermittent fasting protein cycling. These these kind of principles. Here's a high performing. Ceo who uses all of these to deal with the stress of being high performing ceo. I do the same kinds of things. I don't think it's possible to live a ceo life if you're not taking control of these variables and that's exactly like i've put more stress myself than ever. I'm in the best health. And the best shape i could be. I'm in my mid forties. I have tons of energy. But it's really about like. I almost call it like Cellular brilliance right when you can take the toxic fat the toxic build up. That's in our bodies and you can push it out by activating the autophagy through exercise through food through nutrition. Whatever it may be to sleep to sack. Sex is a great way to activate a tough cheap on when you can do these sorts of things than arnold terms did they have to you. Have to have chil- hundred orgasms a year in order to really get the prime benefits of sex. That's the number no. Is that the same for men and women. I don't know about men. I'm always thinking about women. Sorry so there's something else for autophagy in that sperm meeting. So sperm meeting can be found in It can be found in pineapples. There's lots of good foods and of course it can be found in a man and so that's something that's also fantastic for our health and especially topically specifically and tofte you know it's it's it won the nobel prize in medicine japanese biologist one in two thousand sixteen and since then you see more and more research coming out and its effects on cancer and and all of the different neurodegenerative diseases so we all have this process in our body. It's like within the cell. If you think of for example like a kitchen right and this is this is an analogy that someone could see if you're making a meal and after the meal you sort of clean up the counter you throw away the leftovers. You recycle some of it and the next day you have a clean kitchen and you do the same thing. Bats atop the g. working well if for example as we get older we have all of these pollutants environmental toxins impacting us. We make a camille. We leave some of the stuff on the counter. Some of it gets into the garbage. Some of it gets into the recycling bin. It doesn't get outside to the street corner. We start building this toxic waste up and it gets fermented and starts to smell and that's when a toffee isn't working in our bodies so it's worthwhile really knowing about it. Think about the amount of research right. Now that's coming out on intermittent fasting really over the past couple of years. You just can't believe how much good data's coming out but it's been around for thousands of years right a lot of these things i was doing on my own and when i put the simple program together i was able to transform my energy my health my wellbeing and so i decided like you know what i wanna see if other people get these same kind of benefits from these. Almost ancient practices and the reason the book was called is called. Glow fifteen is. We did an eight week. Clinical study with tons of women and what happened was after two weeks fifteen days. the researchers. The lead researcher called me up. She's like naomi. You're never going to believe that every single woman in this study has achieved benefits in two weeks of the program. And that's why we called glow fifteen. How many french fries today can. You eat unglue fifteen. You know. it's it's none none by you but you can't eat carbs but not those kind of cards so it's slider that i and carbs last so you're using if you're gonna take some carbs eat at the end of the day when you recovering when your body wants to go to sleep and recover. What are some of the other things that we can do. I know sleep. We talked about earlier but in the book. You talk about one of my favorite guys. That dr michael bruce cruncher types. Just kind of walk me through. What type is tell me what yours is so what happened in our in our clinical studied the glue. Fifteen clinical study was at the end of it. I met with all of the women and the researchers and we talked about what worked the bass what we would do differently for the program and everyone was talking about. Well we got these incredible results. Losses weight had more energy. You got off medications so many different things but there were complaints around the sleep. They didn't get the restorative sleep that they were hoping so. That's when i called up america. Sleep dr michael. And i said michael what. What am i doing wrong. And what he said is they don't know their krona types. So what type of sleeper they are. And then once you know that you're activating your tofte g to your circadian rhythm. Pretty amazing The idea that there are four different types of people genetically. Where if we evolved to be tribe of one hundred fifty people fifteen percent of people wake up really really early and i call them the bad people he calls them lions and they just naturally pop out of bed at five. Am and if you tell them that they have to sleep till eight or nine. They won't do it because they can't and you tons of step midnight. It's like death to them and then fifteen percent of people are the night shift in case any like night predators. Come in you tell them to go to bed before one or two in the morning. Like why would i do that. That's my best time. And then you have about fifty percent of people who just hang out in the middle and some people just never sleep very well. they're the backup alarm system. I i loved learning about micro type. And i love being able to share that because for me you know for for women in general. It's it's a matter of understanding like how we get out of that place just surviving for working. We have families we have children. We've got were juggling like fifteen avocados right. Where so overwhelmed with so much different crushers and i speak to my girlfriend's that are female ceos and executives and it's a challenge so my whole objective is to provide like the simple and easy solutions to really activating the youth inside of ourselves. Because when we do that if it's through getting aware of your krona type taking a quiz and just knowing what that is. I love that you with your team to knowing what type of exercise you should be doing. There's like two very simple exercise. You're either and you can do this through Weightlifting you can do the yoga. It's just resistance. Training and less is more so thirty minutes. Every other day is the best way to activate a toffee. Not that much. Not that much less is more and it's just getting that good stress. Can we talk about mares. We're on the If you're listening you haven't heard of it before. This is a little part of your cell and everytime cell divides it gets a little bit shorter so the idea. Is that when you run out of these things you die or at least your cells die and so if you have longer telomeres you'll have younger looking skin in. You'll probably be resistant to cancer and a lot of the diseases of aging. You guys know that. I'm always on the cutting edge of experimenting in figure out what's going to work to upgrade my own biology and i wrote about something called spur. Mundine in my big anti-aging book but you couldn't buy it. You could only make it with a rare probiotic and the gut that had questionable effects. Well now there is a new form of sperm. That you might have heard about on the show yes. It was discovered in the substance of which it sounds like. It is one of the big breakthrough supplements of the year. I am firmly committed to taking six capsules of sperm medine. Every day for the rest of my life based on the research that i've done and the reason this is available is ten plus years of research in austria at a company called longevity labs and they make something called sperm in life which is the world's first sprinting supplement with more than thirty clinical studies. All natural non gmo plant based and it turns on autophagy. You can take during fast. You can take it when you're not fasting and you still get. Autophagy is a major anti-aging upgrade for me. And it's something i'm really excited about. 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It's it's great to see women in science who've done it for a long time but it's so rare especially when you get to find women who are over sixty who had along in science and then to win a nobel prize to have that that sort of experience. I think that's so bad ass because it is a little bit tougher women and you lose that earlier in as a an entrepreneur as a ceo. In all that. I've done a good amount of entrepreneur. Coaching advice lot of companies. What's your experience. Been like learning how to be a you know a very successful. Ceo and an entrepreneur and to allow yourself to be supportive. What you do that with your practice for. I love that you ask that question so i think first and foremost as women we suffer more. Our brains are more complex in the way that we process information so we need to just understand that our biology obviously is very different than a man's so that's number one so once i respected and understood that i gave myself opportunities for smart self care and this is something that i don't think i've told anyone in everyone's going to hear this but i always give myself permission and an a perfect example of that is when i was first starting out in business so i was in my early twenties. The first hire that i made i got myself anani and in my house and i was living alone and she could. She could do my hair. She could do my nails. She could cook my food. She could keep my house clean and she could nurture and nourish me. Because i'm you know as a woman were nurtures and that gave me such a killer competitive advantage and it gave her one too because she thrived in my environment which helped me threat my ago into the eastern medicine spending time in caves in tibet kind of experiences in my life. My sensation is that the act of creating a company is inactive nurturing. But it's the same thing that a mother does for a child and you put like your own nurturing energy into the company culture into the mission vision and and it's actually an active creativity but it's inactive nurturing and caring and if you're wired to do that but you've got no one caring for you while you're putting all of your carrying something else. It's the same thing happens to moms when they have a baby and found enough support for that first. Light year or two. They're like complete zombies because they're not getting enough sleep in their nurturing another person and unless they have the care of community or a family and other things i got. It's incredibly stressful and exhausting and draining in order to have that creativity and that ability to to transform people's health and their lives. Like you. And i wake up every single morning. And that's what we're doing and that's what we're focused on and it takes so much energy to do that. So self care or self soothing. I mean like simple things that i do the first thing i do in the morning when i wake up before i get out of bed is i meditate. That's when my cortisol levels at the highest. And if i can work with them first thing in the morning my whole day is different. The next thing i do is i drink. I don't drink my my bulletproof yet. I drink an ice cold glass of water. And so okay so you you you meditate meditate. You drink wasser cold water. You put salt lemon or anything lemon. Sometimes i'll put some of the himalayan salt shortage so those are the things i also do our in what's next well i. It depends on which day it is. So like was a low day for me. And i i don't eat until twelve twelve thirty and when i do eat the next thing i do so i'll have all have like around ten. Am we'll have some green tea. Of course. I want to have it organic coffee like i. I love it and then around lunchtime. I'm going to be starting with my fat i. So that's when. I really get into the fat i. I love bone broth. There's so many great foods that i love to eat. No i don't know how you answer this question But i'm really but what's your take on. Having a small dose of fat in the morning to make the rest of the fat effort listened to have more energy. Do you think we're getting on top of or not. The data shows that you are. So i think especially for women right so i'm always looking through the female lens so women most guys are like all about fasting. Intermittent fasting getting the benefits and a lot of women. Ninety percent of the time they're skepticism. They're worried at my body can't do it and you know we're dealing with different forms so for a woman who wants to get into fasting which i of course love and recommend doing it. For twenty five years there are steps that make it easier and so the first step is of course getting sugar out of our diets number one then becoming fat adapted so you can understand that you know fat. I thought most like you. What are you eight. Seventy eighty percent of your diet brings on the day like that. Yeah But for someone. Who's just getting into fasting. Intermittent fasting if you can Get fat adapted where your body is using it as your fuel and then you start to you know you stop eating at eight. Pm at night and you go till ten in the morning and when you first start eating or you're having a coffee you do a bulletproof coffee. You're able to sustain and satiate yourself in a way where you're still getting. The fasting benefiting effects varies all the signs. I could find you. And i wrote tight. Twenty four or something and just you can tell if you fast. Get on top of g when you're used to these feelings and so to this day there still Is preventative has really fast. If there's no protein inertia yellow and so that that's been years. Thanks you could have easily said. No absolutely not i would have listened but now i look at this all the time i look at it all the time and i just think with with activating the atop the gm and you can activate in lots of different ways. I just did a five day. Water fast a couple of weeks ago and i loved that day. Three you're activating volta. Longo talks about activating your stem cells. And i just interviewed him. And i know you have and and you're getting that stem cell generation in your activating toffee at different levels. So an intermittent fast is a great way to do it. Twenty four hour. Fast water fasts. I mean there's so many ways to go we all get cravings arenas of former three hundred pound guy add like. I didn't know that there was something besides craving. I thought it was the same as hunger. They're very different sensations. But i think women are subject to cravings more than men. I totally agree with you. David just sent in my opinion one hundred percent. I mean i think the relationship that we as women have with food and with cravings and it's so hard for women cause right calorie counting low fat. No fat has been the mantra but to be able to turn that on his head and say i'm obsessed with good fat. Embrace it use it every single day. Fat i and fat most. It will satiate you. You'll lose weight. you'll feel better. You'll totally change your relationship to food. That is awesome. If someone came to you tomorrow and they said naomi i wanna perform better at everything i do as a human being. Not just my job everything. What are the three most important pieces of advice. You have for me gray. What would you tell them. I would tell them. First and foremost to understand their relationship with the macronutrients right so so fat number two. I would talk about meditation and mental health and self care because that's so undervalued and. I think we have to have that if it's if it's the community that loves us. The people that support us that is such a critical part of performing at our very best. The third thing i would say is move around twitch you know let your legs go up and down when you're sitting here you know wherever you're sitting. Yeah this switching that he doing. You're you're you're burning your building brown fat just by doing that. So like engaging in twitching engage in When you exercise scratching your body to get to get activation moving in your in your cell Lot yeah move a lot and in lots of different ways. Beautiful great pieces of advice that nemi. Where can people find glow fifteen. I'm guessing everywhere. Books are sold. Yeah agla fifteen is found everywhere. That books are sold amazon. Barnes and noble. It's can be found at gnc. Its all over the place of beautiful and Is there your people can go to like. Read about your stuff shy. You can go to glow fifteen. There's facebook naomi wit all all over the place And just so grateful and blessed to have this time with you and other were fishing show. I just have to tell a era missing. Noumea's like one of those. Ceo's who's just super kind and helpful to everyone in the industry and supplements can be really a cutthroat it kind of plays and you know there's been a couple of times where she just reach out to like. How can i help. And then like i have the right resource for you and so there are a huge number of people out there When you when you look for them Who are looking at. How do we make the world better. And how do we help. Everyone do it. Even if they're doing something similar ami's totally one of those people so she's good people and you should reader book. Thank you so much. Collaboration is the new competition. And that's how we move forward it. Is they examine. thanks tape. Bulletproof radio was created as hosted. By dave asprey the executive producer. Darcy hines podcast. assistant bev. Hamson his podcast is for information purposes. Only statements and views expressed on this podcast or not medical advice. This podcast including dave aspirin. The producers disclaim responsibility for any possible. Abba affects the use of information contained. Here in opinions. Guests are their own in. This podcast is not endorser. Accept responsibility for statements made by guests because podcasters make any representations or warranties about guess qualifications credibility individuals on this podcast may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products services referred to herein. 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Health is True Wealth

Psynautical

06:38 min | 6 months ago

Health is True Wealth

"Just wanted to do a maybe kind of quick. Maybe kinda long. Bit of a personal Waltz personal episode solo episode but Just a bit of event. Iran about You know Health is really. I think really important Like i really think as cliche as it may sound. health is really wealth. It's really true wealth I know of You know if you look at several people. Several people died kind of read. Learn from look up to you. Know ranged from anywhere from tony. Robbins to elon. Musk josh mason Even actors like robert downey junior joe rogan. there's a bunch of other people They all generally take really good care. Health some more so than others. you know like there's know there's people that kind of maybe take into extreme biohacking like dave asprey tim ferriss and even been greenfield is someone that had been listening to But i really think it's important because even if you do i guess make a lot of a lot of money Unless you really have the good enough health and stuff that you really can't enjoy and then it's also difficult to kind of It also affects like kind of interpersonal relationships Even even like self esteem and stuff That's why i've kind of back down to at least with this podcast doing it. Probably about once a month or so But health is really important. And it's really. I see a lot of this and kind of western society western culture And i get it to a certain extent Really people that are burnt out overworked You know working especially if they do a fulltime job and then they have other responsibilities but also working on side. Gigs are side hustles. Doing my sixteen hours or more a day. And i don't think that's really necessarily healthy. You're good. I think you know some people can do that. Some people can actually get lot done. And maybe a few hours I have kind of personal issues in steph of with work and especially full-time especially still being disabled and dealing with health issues just I think people work at different rates. They can A lot of people. Can you know we're sixteen hours and get a lot done. Some people can work a few hours a day. you locked onto. I think it's really about like you to really kind of think about you. Know efficiency effectiveness and just kind of You will evaluate from day to day but yeah that's just You know. I really think. People should really prioritize health Starting i think even the foundational things especially as i'm getting more into probably kind of I guess kind of like health advocate advocacy. Coaching is really like sleep but also like digestive issues are digestion. That's really like foundational and really people don't really take care of it. It's like I find it kind of kind of odd That people especially places that i've worked working at that people will kind of like as like a badge of honor. Like oh i only this amount of sleeper that less sleep than you or whatever and kind of like really backwards You know if you really want to reach think you're kind of potential income potential. You really health is really important. And when i talk about health it's Especially as as of late for me personally You know they're siskel but there's also mental allowed say there's even spiritual even kind of metaphysical to You know. I don't really like the work life balance. I think you know You know some people may love or like a fulltime job. I think you know work life harmony. Which i think. Jeff bezos xactly came up with his better term You know. I think health should be a priority. You know if you aren't sleeping well if you're not doing well You know it's going to affect everything and you really have to look at it all from all angles and Something especially with health issues. I think you really have to approach it from all angles Look at the root causes and issues because there can be several. They're usually just isn't one even when it even if it's physical mental or both. There's often there's a lot behind it. There's some metaphysical some trauma related not to get to woo or whatever because it's really Especially with healed and had noticed especially really mindset important but also not only first success but also for health. I think to And a lot of times people especially with kind of chronic illnesses that are difficult to treat diagnosis and kind of get treatment for Which i've looked into like chronic fatigue syndrome fibromyalgia and other stuff is that you can become kind of. It's easy to become kind of negative and cynical and bitter and it's hard to relate to others and stuff like that but it was just my my opinion on this I may i have in streaming onto which some It's kind of unrelated to this. I have been Do one episode. I think on twitch and i uploaded twitches well but i may be on some other twitch channel Still looking at maybe some other guests as well too And maybe be a guest on other podcast. If you're interested in having me on the podcast feel free to reach out. It's just sign article gmail.com. Yeah i'm i am doing across promo we're trying to do across promo with my new oceans. Well red circle If you like this podcast share like it review it it's unspecified a bunch of different platforms Spotify seems to be one of the top ones items as well. Some other ones are kind of coming up looking at the stats lately. But i'll see you all later. Have a good week month. and I'll see you later.

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AUTOIMMUNITY: Signs, Symptoms & Triggers  A Top 10 Episode with Dr. Thomas OBryan

Bulletproof Radio

33:56 min | Last month

AUTOIMMUNITY: Signs, Symptoms & Triggers A Top 10 Episode with Dr. Thomas OBryan

"This summer we get to set down our fear and anxiety and open up to travel and gathering and hugging again. So i know that you are going to be spending time outside and getting back to all the activities. They make us better versions of ourselves. That's why i've put together a new podcast series for you called your upgraded summer. These are top ten all time. Bulletproof radio episodes edited for you in a new way to be only thirty minutes. So they work for you. When you're spending your time outside you're gonna learn how to improve your nutrition. Your sleep your brain your got hormones your immune system and your energy and these are the things that people most wanted to hear the most popular topics listen to one. Listen a handful. Listen to all ten but know that you'll be joining millions of people who enjoyed this content. The most ask for more radio station high performance. You're listening to both radio. With dave asprey. Today's guest is dr tom. O'brien and he's an internationally recognized speaker about wheat. Its impact on health and autoimmune disease. In general he practices functional medicine and looks at these chronic diseases and metabolic disorders. And this is relevant to you because there are huge number of us listening right now you have a little bit of chronic disease or metabolic disorder. But you don't feel it until it really really hits you years later. There's a huge number of people walking around going. I feel really good. I'm doing well but they've got the markers like little fire is smoldering and if you want to remain high-performing long into your old age or maybe join me on my quest lived at least one hundred eighty years old. You need to stop this stuff before it becomes look i've got an extra twenty pounds and my liver's fatty and my life sucks. So i invited tom on the show today to talk about. What's going on in this thing tom. Welcome to the show. Thanks dave thanks. It's a pleasure to be with you. What made you get into looking at the body as a system instead of what a lot of medical practitioners do which is sort of you know. Well this is a liver the kidney they don't really have that much in common starting back in two thousand thirteen with slightly less than one hundred people bar in san francisco i wanted to build community spend quality time with people who cared a lot about taking control of their own biology doing things to make themselves and others better every single day and that small group has grown from less than a hundred to thousands of people and now we are holding it september seventeenth through nineteenth in florida and it is going to be an amazing event major speakers jim quick on memory vision yanni on how you can be a better human being and lots of personal development topics dr jill carnahan mold dr makola cat hook navene jane donny killen and many many more who you've heard on the show and some you've never heard before talking about things you can't always talk about on a podcast but veteran it's not just learning it's also getting to experience and touch and feel all the tack hundreds of exhibitors with the newest biohacking technologies they get to play with p. m. f. cryotherapy things will let you get over ten times more exercise benefits then you would normally get so you can save ninety percent of your time exercising. Yeah why don't you try that there. How about some tech. Assisted meditation to get years of meditation in a few days. Or even las vegas nerve wearables and a ton of other things. We actually get to talk to the creators. it is so much fun and you get to be a part of the tribe. This is my community. This is our community there. Millions of bio hackers and there are thousands of bikers who've care so much about their energy and about connecting with others. The we all get to come together in florida. For three days it's personal development it's cognitive development it's biological transformation and it's going to be so much fun go to biohacking conference dot com and sign up now. The vip tickets are almost sold out and the general mission. Tickets are going fast. This is going to be the best and biggest conference ever september. Seventeenth nineteenth orlando. I'll see you there. Biohacking conference dot com. We'll have started Before i actually even got into my internship that my wife and i could not get pregnant. And i called the seven most famous holistic doctors that i've ever heard of at that point. This was nineteen seventy nine. And i was able to reach all of them and i asked them. What do you do for infertility. They would say you know what a category one is. i'd say no and they say learn. Okay okay private down. And i wrote down The nodes talking these seven doctors. And i put a program together. We were pregnant in six weeks when you go to the doctor with symptoms irrespective of what they are. It's kind of like you fall over a waterfall into the pond below. You know and you swim up to the surface and you spit out the water. You're trying to stay afloat in the pond of recurrent miscarriages or in the pond of chronic fatigue. Whatever the pond is at. You're stuck in your trying to stay afloat. And everyone's looking for a life jacket to stay afloat in the pond of their symptoms. And that's important but once you've got a life jacket on and you're okay you're stable. At the moment. You have to swim over to the side of the pond. Get out of the water. Walk up the hill go back upstream to figure out what the heck fell in the river that eventually took you downstream and falling over the waterfall. That's medicine is what is it. That's going on way back there that that has triggered or is fueling whatever the symptoms are that you have going on right now. Talk about What was going with immunity unim- unity on the rise as well. You know it. It's on the rise in the last thirty to forty years and most people and even doctors don't put together is that we think the number one cause of getting sick and dying morbidity mortality is cardiovascular disease. Well every doctor knows or should remember from their studies that cardiovascular disease the plugging up of your pipes. Atherosclerosis is immune driven. It's an auto immune mechanism so this topic of auto. Immunity really becomes a primary concern for all of us but we never looked at it that way so once. We understand that. This is prevalent in almost all of us that it's an auto immune mechanism meaning your immune system attacking your own tissue. Whether it's your blood vessels or components in your blood vessels that vat fatty members of the blood vessels or your brain or your joints or whatever it is when your immune system is attacking your own tissue. That goes on for years. It's called the spectrum of auto immunity. It goes on for years before you ever have a symptom. You have an entire new body. Every seven years some cells reproduce really quickly like the inside lining of your gut every three to five days depending on what steadier read than some cells are really slow like your bone cells but every seven year jevon entire new body. How does that happen. Your immune system has to get rid of the old and damaged cells. Antibodies go after the old damaged cells to make room for new cells to grow and develop. So there's always a normal reference range for antibodies to your thyroid and your liver in your brain and your nerves and your skin. There's a normal reference range but when you have elevated antibodies on a blood test it means you're killing off more cells and you're making and this goes on it's called the pro drama period meaning before symptoms and of course you want the life jacket to deal with the symptoms. Of course you do but you have to go back upstream and figure out what the heck fell in the river. The trigger this whole mechanism of killing off more cells than you're making that is the auto immune fixed. That's what the whole message behind. Betrayal is we've had over five hundred thousand people that watched betrayal and it's all free you know and when you watch this she go. Oh my god this just makes perfect sense because we interviewed the scientists we. We interviewed the world leaders in autoimmune diseases and then interviewed the clinicians our friend mark hyman and many others who were applying the principles of the scientists and then we interviewed the patients of those clinicians. Who were showing. Look i used to have eight lesions on my brain with ms. I couldn't walk two years later. There's only one lesion left. And i have no symptoms why this is happening to your body. What percentage of people have on immunity going on right now clinically. When you do the right test you will find somewhere between six to seven out of every ten patients to come in your office when you do. The right. testing have elevated. Antibodies to their own tissue. I care a lot about this. I had arthritis. My knees knows fourteen tom. I think we talked about that. And they had hashimoto's and all these other things and the more you control it the log. You're gonna live in the better. you're going to perform in the meantime. Which is why this episode. Is it so important. Dave you brought up a really important concept there. In the study you referring to masumi. It's a antibodies. I'm i believe. I believe so. Yeah now a. Antibodies mean anti nuclear antibodies. Meaning the antibodies are attacking the nucleus in your cells and their many different diseases. That can manifest when you're attacking the nucleus in yourselves. So the question is why is my body attacking the nucleus inside my cells and the answer is that there's more than one answer but the majority answer it's the environmental toxins. That are accumulating in your body the biz phenol a the mercury all of the crud that were exposed to every day that minute amounts. It's not a big deal. But it accumulates. And accumulates and accumulates until you cross a threshold when you cross the threshold your immune system says that's it no more and your immune system starts attacking to go after that. What are the biggest triggers. You mentioned mercury. you mentioned biscuit a I'm assuming life sadism there. What are the other big toxins that are actually causing these multi decade things that you can detect now that aren't gonna hit you for twenty years for the vast majority of people the most common source of toxins that trigger your immune system. Eventually to protect you is. What's on the end of your fork. Let's zoom in on grains like like talk with me about the difference between a wheat allergy gluten sensitivity gluten intolerance celia disease. So let's break down. The different categories of problems too weak the first one. The most common that we're familiar with is when a doctor does pinprick tests on your back to see if there's some food you're sensitive to and wheat is one of those foods that can come up if you have a reaction there. That's called in allergy. Because it stimulates an immune reaction called i g e either five different immunoglobulins. I g is the one that's related to allergies. That's histamine responses. Do i don't know if you have too much history a simple test to look to see if you have too much histamine right now when you have excess amounts of histamine your red with weed the second most common one because of the science there's over twenty thousand studies literally twenty thousand studies. On eac disease celia disease is when your guts being chewed up from a sensitivity to week. The third category is nine celia weet sensitivity and. That's the big picture. Nine celia weep sensitivity can manifest as brain dysfunction auto immune brain disease Skin disease joint. There's no tissue in the body that might not be affected by a sensitivity to week. You know look at the immune system to see is my immune system telling me. I've got a problem with this food. Cause body body language never lies if your immune system is activated to protect you against a particular food. Stop eating that food now. Seven out of ten of us have something going. On with autumn unity and what percentage of those people do you think is caused by grain. Oh my goodness Grain is likely fueling that inflammatory cascade in that auto immune responds. My suspicion would be certainly sixty sixty to seventy percent of people. It's grains that are fueling at it may not be exclusive there could be other foods in excess sugars and bad fats and all of that but at least sixty to seventy percent of our patients when we reduce their grain consumption. They just start feeling better right away. It seems to be that way with with people across the board so when you go on a wheat free diet you must focus on prebiotics. You must focus on replacing the rabbitohs islands with other inlands. So fancy words but just eat the prebiotics. Just go to google and download list prebiotics clues and make sure you eat at least two of them a day. I did essentially zero carbs for three months one serving of vegetables a day. I'll try and eat like an eskimo and it completely triggered food allergies. I didn't have before and it actually disrupted my sleep and all and that's why the bulletproof diet like look it's cyclical ketogenic diet without toxins because the toxins trigger inflammation autumn immunity. And if you never feed your bacteria you'll be able to measure this. Like on a vm. Test you can see that ejects you up so you've got to be eating this and that's why if you can find a way to get that in ulan or any of these things in you don't have to eat wheat and i love that. You're just calling this out because this is a problem. Even critical for time critical. You know there's there. There's a lot of people that are saying gluten free diets not good for you. well nonsense gluten. Free diets are necessary for most people. However you have to know how to do a healthy gluten free diet so we tell all of our patients say listen. Here's what you do when you go shopping you buy your vegetables. Always get organic critically importing organic but by a couple of every root vegetable. That's their turnips. Parsnips rutabagas jerusalem artichokes sweet potatoes carrots and every day. You have a couple of root vegetables and download the list of prebiotic foods and include other prebiotics foods. Like bananas in your diet artichokes and just make sure every day. You're getting a few of the pre butler boots. That are high in prebiotics so you can be the good bacteria in your gut that is is probably the most important thing that we've shared in this episode so far sef you're listening to this and you're on akito diet if you're not eating any carbs at all. The bacteria in your gut will not have any food critically important for all of your listeners. Who are dialing down their diets and really focusing on fine tuning for high performance. You've got to have prebiotics if you don't you're you're probiotics dot when they die when the good guys die the bad guys that are stronger. More resistant. But just minor amounts of them they. They don't have the army's suppressing them anymore. They rear their ugly heads. Three six months down the road and here come more auto immune mechanisms. Because you've got this toxic bacteria causing intestinal permeability getting in your bloodstream. And your immune system starts working overtime trying to protect you from this stuff. Let's talk a little bit about intestinal permeability. Which is a very exciting topic. And i see trending on google. Oh actually you don't. So what is what is intestinal permeability. And just walk me through how that words in order to improve important things in your life like sleep. Sex drive energy or stress levels. It really helps to be able to track. What you're biology does at any point in the day i'm using an app called base that's an in-home lab testing and smart app combo bass easily gets you data from lab testing and delivers your body's data to the base app on your phone. You take the test ship it back and get results. Direct land the app in a couple of days base. Gives you a score plus insights on how you can reduce stress levels. If that's what you're working on you get information about nutrition movement or supplements that will work best for your body for what you want to change. You can do this. You can take charge of your health data for less than sixty dollars. Go to get dash based dot com and use code. Dave and get twenty percents off your first month membership. You can test monthly or quarterly. So you know that what you're doing for biohacking actually works. That's get hyphen base dot com code. Dave gets it twenty percent off your first month and mrs patient. Your intestines are a tube. It's twenty twenty five feet long. Imagine you've got a donut and you could just stretch a donut out. One big long doughnut. Look down the center of that donut. That's your digestive tract right so when you swallow food. It's not really in your body. It's still in the tube now. Tube is lined on the inside with cheesecloth. So only really small molecules can get through the chiefs clot into the bloodstream. That's one of the reasons why your intestines are twenty twenty five feet long. Because pro teams have to be digested think of proteins like a pearl necklace hydrochloric acid made in your stomach. Another the class was the pearl necklace. Now you're holding a string of pearls. Your enzymes made by the pancreas and gallbladder bladder and liver and micro by adding the intestines. The enzyme's active scissors to cut that pearl necklace the proteins into smaller clumps of the pearl necklace smaller clumps of amino acids smaller and smaller snip. Snip snip snip snip. Until they're down to each individual amino acid the pearl of a pearl necklace each individual pearl those individual amino acids can go right through the cheesecloth into the bloodstream. Then your body can use those amino acids as building blocks to build new muscle new brain cells new enzymes. Whatever it is you need. But they're the building blocks of your tissue. It takes a lot longer to break down the proteins in prime rib than the proteins and a banana. That's why you're testings are so long. 'cause snip snip. Snip snips got to occur all the way down the intestines but the intestines are lying with this. Cheesecloth now intestinal permeability. The leaky gut is when you get tears in the chiefs clock. You get tears in the cheesecloth now. Larger clumps of the pearl necklace called macromolecules these larger clumps get through the tears and the cheesecloth into the bloodstream. Before there's been enough time to snip them down into little individual pearls that go through the chiefs call. Now they go through the terrorists. And the cheesecloth these macromolecules get into your bloodstream. Your immune system says what the heck is this. I better fight this and you start making. Antibodies to wheat or antibodies to tomatoes or antibodies. To bananas are to basil and this these are the people that do ninety food blood tests panels. It comes back. They're sensitive to twenty five thirty foods and they say oh my god that's everything i eat will. Of course it is your body's trying to protect you from this toxic. Crud got in there because you got tears in the lining of your intestines. How do you fix intestinal permeability. Tom the first thing you have to do is identify. Why do you have intestinal permeability. And what's missed by. So many of our healthcare practitioners is at the environment of the intestines. The micro biota has developed over years of abuse to be a micro bayada that's inflammatory and the micro biota itself can cause tears in the intestines and 'cause leaky gut. When that happens. Now you've got intestinal permeability. This is why Those diets where you have. Oh day once a week there. Just a bad. Yeah so no on a day you still need. We don't eat gluten. You don't do that kind of stuff. You might have some sugar. Which still isn't good. Got bacteria but it's nothing compared to these whole grain. Toxins cheat days are very healthy for the emotional side of health. It's very healthy to have a break. You know and just rest and congratulate yourself that you're doing really well so you find the least toxic. You know the things that your immune system say our problem so a little bit a sweet maybe not a problem but certainly not we. You have elevated antibodies to wheat. You now have memory b cells to week. They never go away. So if you clean up your diet six months later you see that. Oh look the. Antibodies are all gone. I can have wheat now. You can't but you know. Say to patients all the time. If you wanna try go ahead you'll see and we'll do the blood test again in a month and you'll see the antibodies come back again and then if you're weak link in the chain is your brain you start attacking your brain again from these. We'd antibodies some species of toxic. Mold have the same protein on them. That's on gluten so even if you're not exposed to gluten if you're exposed to busy breathing this stuff in a building it can trigger that same antibody reaction in in you and what do you think about environmental toxins that you breathe from these these molds. That don't belong in our houses as being a trigger even for original gluten sensitivity or case sensitivity. Well that's an extremely sophisticated question. Dave and Just yesterday i had a consultation with a patient with ms who is in a wheelchair in can't speak that it's that far advanced and she's been squeaky clean swears. Been squeaky clean not days with wheat for three years now. Two or three years. I think it was three years and yet her test just came back sky high. Antibodies to wait. Where's the trigger coming from and top of the list is. Have you ever checked your house for mold and do Mrs patient if you go out if you go out for a week or two weeks on vacation something and you come back. You have to open the windows to air. The house out will. Yeah you got mold in the house and have your house tested for me. I really inoculate my environment in my house in my car and places like that because this is a trigger. That's as important as what you eat. If you're breathing something that pisses off your immune system. You get inflammation. If you're eating something that pisses off your system. You get inflammation so you have to look at your entire environment like that. And i kind of feel for people who are saying well. I'm doing so much of my diet and they go home but your ceiling tiles are all stained and that's as important as what's on your fork and its complexity that i think is Really messing up a lot of science trying to boil this down to a single variable but it settle. He's got thumb tack and three of your fingers so i took on my little finger now. That wasn't actually. Put it back out the next one. You got to do all of them at once. What are the other things though. That might be autoimmune triggers. That people don't think about the three things that i think are most important to address on this particular topic is what's on the end of your four. What's going up your nostrils and what's in your gut. You attack those three. You spent three months four months six months focusing on dialing down on this learning those three categories and what works for your body. And what doesn't you will help enhance years and years more of quality lights for you for yourself. I love those three pillars. And if you only do two of the three you don't have stool that will stand up on its own. What's your take on charcoal as a as a potential. Ps binder is one of the recommendations for all auto immune patients is to take charcoal in the evening A few hours of surly donate before you go to bed. The other should be three four hours. Do not eating but then take charcoal charcoal accent like a big spun. Just suck up wolf whatever. Lpsa can in your gut. Now seven out of ten people have auto immunity. This is really important thing. It's not even an expensive kind of supplement in the ipe. It's not the outside of your grill. You make activated charcoal by taking a clean source We like coconut shells. But then you light it on fire and then put it out by taking oxygen so you have lots of of surface on it. So that's one the other thing. Is that if you're on a high fat diet. Hey listen up if you're all key all the time you're on a high fat diet fat escorts l. p. s. across the gut most effectively especially things like laura acid which is the cheapest most abundant. Mcat and coconut oil. The one that we don't put in brain octane. That stuff as well as any other longer chain fats will pick up these molecules in bream across the gut but there are some types of fat including the stuff that we use in brain octane that are shown in studies to help deliver be protected from the impact of l. p. s. on it so there's reason that's in there with the butter in bulletproof coffee because you wanna be able to have some protective stuff in there. Dave i just wanna give kudos on this. And i you know i was going to say this but you may remember. It was five or six years ago. That i said you can't use palm oil man in you know in your octane has palm oil enhances lipid raft trans psychosis which is this l. Ps being carried into the bloodstream. Right through the cells. You do not need a leaky gut. This is one of those things that that's fundamental to performing really well because what are the symptoms like. What are you gonna feel like the day after you have a spike in l. p. s. o. My goodness it it. It depends on where it's accumulating It could be in your heart and your short of breath. You know if your heart muscles is inflamed and not functioning properly most commonly i think just in my clinical experience. Most common is a brain and people just have stinking thinking exactly. Yeah they they just know that. They're not on their game. They they they don't feel up they don't feel engaged that they really have to rev it up to give their best because there are feeling they just feel toxic. What do you tell the people who have developed food. Algae they didn't use to have. They fixed their gut. They eliminated for six months. What are the other tricks for. Giving yourself Busy undoing the damage done with the high fat zero. Carb diet rebuild. A healthier microbiome. It's the only way that i know of to be exposed again in not having inflammatory response that using the such as by oems panel of evaluation to see what's my current state. And how do i get to where i want to go in terms of my microbiome. How do i get there. So i wear is it. What's the deficits. What are the things that are way out of balance. And then how do i get to where i wanna go and apply the principles and then recheck. Six months later you recheck and this is sort of where function as it gets really interesting. Where as bio hackers we want to have control earned biology and if my body is inappropriately targeting molecules that it doesn't need to for my long term health and safety. There is a control mechanism a reprogramming mechanism in there. And we will find it and this is pretty cool because if you're listening to this and you're saying well i can't eat this food. Maybe you have a genetic reason like with electons from night shades or grains or something where you're people didn't eat it you're not gonna eat that you'll never thrive on that right and who knows. Maybe that's hackel but for the rest of the stuff. If you're fine on it you got exposed like i did it. Was you know not just to that that diet but also exposed some mold at the same time all the sudden literally from one day. The next you can't eat stuff anymore. We are going to get on top of that. We're going to be able to whether it's an injection or some other kind of thing. We're going to own all that over the next five to ten years because tom when you talk about the stuff when you write it in your book it comes out and now all of a sudden it's in our public discussion and then the functional medicine guys. They were all going to be working on this and saying all right. There's a huge market for this and we will get to the point not so far away where we're going to be able to say whether it's a capsule pill lifestyle thing who knows you might run intellectual current we're going to get there and i'm incredibly because we're about to understand why now that we understand what you're really doing a great job of of spreading the word about what's going on and then we can fix it. Well that's really exciting. David really is. There's a lot of research right now in the world of ceac disease and we'd sensitivity. Lots of different teams are working on a pills or enzymes or genetic modifications that they're trying a number of different approaches to see. How can we help. People eat without triggering this immune response and the key of course is going to be a reprogramming And it seems to me. The reprogramming has to be comprehensive so that you can't expect to reprogram wheat in the goal ronnie sliders every day. You know or drink of six. Pack a bet that It really is reprogramming for higher function and allowing to eat certain foods that you currently can't eat i in my limited experience. I think demands that you are living a high performance life in terms of taking care of your machine if you treat your body like lamborghini it's gonna run like lamborghini if you treat your body like a rambler and expected to run like lamborghini. You're gonna be in trouble and that it's an apt analogy all right. Where can people find out more about your book. The dr dot com the doctor dot com And the books on the homepage and it links you to amazon but there are some downloads. You get If you go through there and of course go right to amazon for. It's called the auto immune fix. I'm very proud of it. I think it gives a big picture overview and People then understand much more about what's the path in front of them to develop higher perform. It's even if i don't have any that i know of right. Now if you flip a coin the very high that you've got a lease one of the many different types of autumn unity's starting someone your body you want to get on top of that if you're in your twenties heck you're in college and you notice this year grades can go up. If you turn down inflammation your resilience goes up. You look better. You feel better and just understanding what's going on with this when you're young prevents you from feeling like absolute crap when you're forty five or fifty or one hundred and that's the game that we're playing now and maybe even beyond one hundred because if you're twenty now and you look at what would have happened. You know one hundred years ago to twenty year olds the whole world is different. You have the potential to live hundred or maybe even two hundred years if you take care of what's going on right now and that's why i think it'd be useful to read tom's book look at betrayal. It's the dr dot com slash bulletproof. And just take care of of the hardware. You've got an it'll serve you very well. This is something that. I didn't know when i was young. I didn't know how to do it. Didn't know how important it was. And if i'd have known the stuff that i know. Now when i was twenty men my life would have been very different with a lot a lot less work in it and so that's one of the things that drives me to do bulletproof and thanks for your work as well. Thank you dave. It's really a pleasure really a pleasure. It's an honor to Do this work. And i follow the passion. I wish everyone that they have the fuel. The internal fuel in the brain in their bodies to follow their own passion to make this world a better place. I'm very well said normally and ask you. What are your top three recommendations people want to perform better but you already answered it when you're on bulletproof radio last time so we're not gonna do it this time. Thanks again for being a bulletproof radio. Tom have an awesome thanks. 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"Bulletproof radio station of high performance. You're listening to bulletproof. Radio with dave asprey one of the really important parts of biohacking and something. That's made a big difference for me personally. Is light therapy. A company called juve pioneered red light therapy and they did a great job of isolating red and near infrared light at high powers and then they made their devices accessible and affordable for us to use in home. I find that my energy my fitness. My sleep are always better when i use red light. And infrared light therapy. And i love juve. That's j. o. V. v. and. I'm really excited. Because they just came out with the next generation of devices that you should know about their sleeker about twenty five percent lighter and they have the same power you can now stand up to three times further away and still get the recommended dose of red light and you can mount them just about anywhere you can think of. And there's an ambient mode that gives com low intensity of light at night only available for a limited time juve wants hook you up with exclusive discount for your first order with some exclusions so go to juve j. o. v. dot com slash. Dave and use code dave to get your discount. Some exclusions apply. Today's guest is someone. I've been wanting to have on for a while because he has spent huge amounts of time studying ozone therapy and ozone is one of the things i've written about extensively in lots of my books in fact i've done multiple episodes of the podcast on it. And it's something that's just entering the consciousness that we have even things like corona virus things like drug resistant whatever's all of them respond to ozone therapy because ozone therapy. Actually hacks the cells in your body so i wanted to bring you guys and expert. Who would really be able to go deep with you. On ozone in fact. Today's guest has been nicknamed an ozone. Not because he's done so much pioneering work in ozone and his name is michael lau mica welcome to the show. Well thanks. I'm super happy to be here. I wanted to do this in person because we get a better interview. And we met a genius network with joe polish. Who's also been on the show talking about addiction and just as crazy life But you have this weird second generation thing going on because in superhuman talk about blood irradiation with ultraviolet light and this amazing amounts of healing that can happen. I actually had my blood. Uv irradiated and ozer needed Two and three days ago Probably using equipment that your father helped designs. You grew up even just as a teenager doing this. Cutting edge oxyde therapies. How did your family get into ozone as something that mattered. I mean it's pretty going back twenty five years ago it was pretty out there. Yeah and it is kind of an interesting thing you hear. Ultraviolet blood irradiation radiation. That doesn't sound good but it's using natural light exposing it to your blood and putting it back into the body to elicit a beneficial result but essentially What had happened was my was a serial entrepreneur entrepreneurial Kinda guy very nationless. You know would start business after business. And he was inbetween. Businesses had made a decent amount Off of some other stuff and was looking for the next thing to do and so this guy that was out in africa. Doing some missionary work He got associated with from his church. He came back and said. Hey we're using something called the. Ub i to treat these crazy infections out there you know. People just don't have the access to hospitals and things that we do here so infections and those types of things are much more common with where they were at And this was in togo west africa. He brought the equipment back. Started talking with my dad and they decided to start a clinic together in lansing michigan and that failed miserably. Didn't go very well in. Michigan is just kind of closed years to this kind of stuff more or less. You come out west. And it's like oh wow santa. Cruz is pretty close to years back then. This was very out there. Okay yeah yeah. I it just not something. That was super common. People don't know about it and you know it takes a lot of education to kind of get them into the paradigm and to understand what you're doing so Anyway they started the clinic. They started working with some of the equipment Long story short. He ended up developing better equipment. More energy going into the blood A better way of getting exposure from the blood to the light and those types of things. So that's how we got into it. And i eventually Was working with him. I was doing nursing. I was working on the ambulance and kind of started to see this discrepancy between what we're doing with the ub and what might training was going to be. And i was going down the route. I wanted to become the doctor. Those types of things so Like a question that. I had asked which i asked frequently these types of things but somebody with type two diabetes. Why do we put them on a lifetime of metformin and always increase it. Why don't we give them like six months. Know three months or something like that and give them a course of action to get to reverse the disease and usually the responses while we haven't created a drug to cure type two diabetes yet. So it's like well you know there's more to the story here. We can work with it. We can do diet. We can do lifestyle changes so why we talk about it all the time in this conventional circle but why are we really using it and so that was kind of the prelude into my work with ozone from the ub because the ub doctors commonly using ozone was just kind of a natural transition so the the original oxygen therapy was relatively difficult to take the blood out expose it to high doses of ultraviolet. Like you'd get from sunshine but even stronger and then put it back in and ozone therapy though is much more accessible and one of the one of the reasons that i really was attracted having on the show is. I'm tired of of these therapies. that are incredibly expensive. When i had toxic mold. One of the things i did. I've been really public about this. No one was going on. They said oh you have lime disease. Chemical sensitivity fibromyalgia chronic fatigue syndrome. And i had all the symptoms of these things and most of them. Boil down to. You've been poisoned by something in your environment and quite often mold but not always can be lime or whatever but for me. I said i'm gonna learn how to do. It was on therapy. And i wasn't doing as well as i am today. financially this was in quite a while ago but i could afford a about a five six hundred dollar ozone machine from china that was not metered and i was lucky that a dentist who i've written about in superhuman was eighty eight years old at the time Said hey dave. I'm gonna teach you how to do this. And he was doing his dental practice so he got me going knows on therapy. I could do it. Because i knew the right people and it was relatively affordable. But if you didn't know the right people it was two grand for those on machine and that's a huge amount of money. What have you done to make ozone more accessible with what you're doing versus spending a few grand like i had to do to buy gear. Sure so yeah. I was on has been around for a really long time but there is kind of just a couple of companies that dominated the market that kind of set what. The price criteria was and the realistic thing is that it's not complicated technology. It shouldn't be two thousand dollars to create so as like well. It doesn't seem that difficult. What if we could create a machine that stable reliable gives the purity that's required for ozone therapy We eliminate the things that are unnecessary. And we just sell it for a lot cheaper so eventually Trial and error. We gotta machine though a super stable super reliable much less expensive. And what is it rhonda by no zone machine these days so when i first came in the market you're looking at the base machine being like two thousand dollars Plus accessories and equipment so you could be If you're just kind of give getting a basic home setup up towards three thousand dollars so now you're looking at about nine hundred and fifty bucks. Cut their costs. Basically by two-thirds already yeah essentially so the threshold has been lowered and the other advantage of that too is that you're not just looking at one time shot right like you're not spending nine hundred and fifty dollars to get a ozone therapy. You're spending nine hundred and fifty dollars to get set up with ozone therapy for the rest of your life it. It's actually really cheap At that level and when we talk about ozone therapy there's basically three or four types of ozone therapy. That i think are common at home the stuff that i do at home And i'm going to list those than we tell me which ones are a good idea or a bad idea based on your your experience with stuff. So the one that i think. Turn my brain back on in probably saved. My health was rectal ozone therapy. And which is when you make sure it's not too much zone. You're not too strong. But you introduce it into the rectum. Yes it's a very small little hose but that's how it works So that that would be one. There's a or you can imagine only for women obviously not equipped for that Then you can do cupping. And i've talked on the show about how my daughter had a release aveer ear infection. Not in the inside of the on the outside the cut that got infected and it's literally twenty minutes of ozone gas to prevent About like your went back to. Its normal size. And i've done it topically many times. Then you can your ears with the stethoscope which gets into the brain and helps with the brain fog things like that. And then there's an ozone sauna where you can have ozone or bagging where your whole body can be exposed to ozone Is does your gear work for all of that. Yeah does and you're kind of in this space now to of anecdote versus kind of the scientific results in one of the things i love about ozone therapy is the science backing that it has so it has a ton of yeah and a lot of people don't realize how much there is. It's based on a europe. The primary facilities being ill italy But they've really done a lot of high quality research on this stuff and it's generally people that are passionate about it and just you know want to really figure it out because there's not the backing behind it that you would have for a drug or something that's going to generate a ton of income but to answer your question about what is good to do that home. So there's the rectal like you said the year the cupping and the on sauna and there's other things you can do to but like So you could do drinking the ozone water. Of course you could switch with the ozone water There's a limb begging the copying which you already said the vaginal the rectal Asana so i guess the only other one was really the water that you would add in in in the doctor's office. They're doing the intravenous and that kind of stuff but really so one of the things. I don't like that i'm kind of becoming more known for his rectal insulation which is not a great thing to tie your face to necessarily but it helps people. So i'm all. I'll really straightforward. I'm recovering from pneumonia. Right now About a week ago they wanted to hospitalize before. And i'm pretty much fully recovered. There's a little bit of coughing but in terms of energy and all that stuff. I'm dialed in and yeah. Use antibiotics as well but this morning i did rectal installation with ozone and i've been doing it two or three times a day As part recovery. Because it turns your medical andrea on. And i know this because i have twenty years of experience doing but past episodes. You know frank shellenberger. Who's a legend in the field has been on the show in episode five twenty four and then robert rohan who cured ebola with this stuff in africa was an episode. Three fifty two. So people are really working on amazing things that i'm supposed to be possible to berkeley losses and things like that Why do you not like being tied with records. Well in the sense that it's just not the most glamorous subject you know. I do in the sense that it is effective therapy That really is helping people in you know. That's really where i get. My dry from is the fact that i'm kind of stepping into the circle. It's helping people people who have gone through the ringer. They've gone through all the options and then they find ozone and they're like all. I'm getting my life back or you know. I've had a lot of athletes in some stories. From that i can share too but people who are triathletes. I've been doing it their whole life and start using ozone they're like oh. My times are getting better actually gaining weight too. You know and things like that that it's been really effective for but at home. Yeah the most effective way you can do it as reconciliation for systemic benefit. When when i first got into on this was a long time ago and this interesting little device and it had a aquarium air pump that would pump air into some crappy little thing it costs. You know a few hundred bucks and it would make ozone but it was making it from not a pure auction source. What are the pros and cons of doing that. Yeah so there's a whole world of ozone that you could dive into there's ozone for municipalities. So it's ozone for winemaking there's ozone for pools. There's ozone for hot tubs. There's ozone aquariums and then there's medical. They're all different The common foundation is that ozone is a really strong oxidant so in the cases of like hot tubs municipalities aquariums. It's really good for disinfecting and eliminating bacteria that you don't want now ozone into the bladder rectum is different. It's not disinfectant In that way. So but if you use a topically on a wounded still going to be a disinfectant so it kind of has this multifaceted Things going on with it that make it really interesting. One of the things that made me switch from this was marketed as a medical device like at this has to be like mid nineties The problem is that when you take normal air which has nitrogen and you expose it to the the spark gap that makes us an you end up getting reactive oxygen species which you want you also ended up getting reactive nitrogen compounds which you definitely don't want so i think for for medical use you probably want to use bottled or at least concentrated oxygen right. Yeah so. I didn't comment on that. But yeah essentially the the big differences that the machines used for disinfecting are not medical grade ozone generators. They're using ambient air. They're using equipment. That generally is not super ozone resistance. Or there's gonna be some breakdown of materials and if you try to use that for medical purposes you're going to be adding toxicity to your body that you don't want so that's why you don't use those machines that are made for aquariums machines that are made for pools. Those types of things there are the medical grade ozone generators that put out pure concentrations of ozone when they're hooked up to an oxygen tanks. So they're not as pulling in the ambient air all right. Let's talk about oxygen tanks. So here's here's my pitch for you guys And i'm not really selling anything. But i'm just telling you in terms of having a very high return on investment if you have the ability to make medical ozone at home it will save you huge amounts of money and time and increase your performance and you can do it literally for decades with a little bit of equipment for this so if you were to go to a doctor's office and do you know insulation where some of them will do that. And i'm sorry if your doctor ozone therapy I appreciate what you're doing and keep doing it over. Most of you want your patients to not have to drive in and you know pay you some feed have little bag of ozone that they squeeze there but because that's what you do right literally the bathroom they give you a bag and like you squeeze the thing and you come out and then you drive home and you probably have to hit the bathroom at some point i. It's not that hard to do. So i'm saying that if we have access to this you won't have to take. Antibiotics is often. You can do even infections that are starting to spread. You can cut those and they go away. Most of the time. And if your brain's not working you're feeling really crappy you can do it regularly and you get your brain back. And if there's some weird chronic infection thing going on you get better faster so you're saying it's about nine hundred fifty bucks. What about the oxygen source though and this is always the big concern like how do i get pure oxygen to make ozone that. I could use on my family with appropriate training. Yeah most people So there's two different kinds oxygen tanks. There's five forty commercial and there's eight seventy medical so most people recommend getting the medical tank. It's a prescription as the regulations of being a medical tank But the commercial the fi forty commercial tank. You can get up praxair air and you don't need a prescription so most people actually choose to do that Because they're rated for the same great of oxygen so there's not really a difference impurity by what they're rated for but the prescription is the recommended method to go about. People generally just get a script from their doctor go to a medical oxygen supply. And they're good to go all right. I'm gonna completely disagree with you. There there is an absolute monopoly of disgustingness on oxygen access. The stuff is locked down harder than you could possibly imagine. You wanna get a script. Okay what are you gonna tell your insurance company about why script oxygen. Maybe i wanted to do exercise with oxygen therapy. Maybe wanted to ozone but a lot of doctors won't even write script for a tank because they don't want to put their license risk. There is no difference between medical oxygen and welding oxygen in terms of. What's in it. As far as i can ascertain in fact i've even gone to places where they're filling medical and welding from the same tack right so we know it's the same and then people used to say. Oh well there might be some oil and the welding oxygen. I welded toyota. Truck frames for a living for a portion of my life. Not a very long portion. Thankfully i can tell you if there's grease in your oxygen. You will not like what happens in your welder. That is not happening. So what's going on here as you can spend twenty bucks or forty bucks on an oxygen refill for welding oxygen or you can spend a whole lot more and get exactly the same thing and have to go to a pharmacy and deal all sorts of rigmarole so everyone that i know of now Who's doing therapy. Just the big affordable tanks of oxygen puts a regulator on and then makes pure ozone whether they're using it even intravenously or they're using it Regularly or they're using it for an ozone sauna and things like that and or they may is concentrated manufacture their own oxygen which works for saunas. But probably not for internal use. Yeah it's probably not ideal a concentrator just because you're gonna get ninety five percent period but you're not gonna get the ninety nine point nine percent purity which is going to be a bit better if you're doing especially if you're doing anything with veins our blood yet do not use a concentrate now Absolutely and at home. It's not appropriate to do ozone in your blood it. This is just one of those things where it's a called a home remedy. Where you do this. I mean i've i've seen it over and over with my kids and with me where i really didn't want to I didn't want have to take antibiotics but for skin infections and for problems with the gut. It's the strongest thing i've ever seen. all right so people could go and they could spend about. You know a thousand bucks and you've years is the most affordable equipment i've been able to find other than unlabeled stuff from china where you don't know how much ozone you're getting. How important is it to know how much ozone is coming out of your own machine. Well so one of the issues. And i've tested a number of machines that people have been like. Hey i'm not sure if my ozone is making an accurate amount to what it says it is so generally with ozone generators. There's a chart on top of the machine that tells you what it's putting out. It's not actually reading what it is putting out. You just have to take the charts word for it for whatever actually. Is you know what it says it is so anyway we have to analyze and we have to check on calibrate them to make sure that they're accurate I've had a number of times where people have sent me back machine to have them calibrated and analyzed. They're putting out. You know a hundred percent than they should be on there ozone concentration. Now if you're trying to do ozone therapy it doesn't have to be super finite inexact but if you're a hundred percent off of what your mark is supposed to be. That's not a good thing you're going to be potentially causing some excessive oxidative stress some excessive irritation to the places. You're applying it so having a machine where you know what the concentration is is super important and that's generally only gonna come from companies that are based in the united states or out of canada that calibrate and analyze their machines. That know exactly what's coming out of it In their built to last two so they're not necessarily just going to fall off the grade right away. They're built to last in the sense that they're going to retain those concentrations and you're not going to be causing damage that is That's really good advice. so for me i was able to get my weird chinese one Calibrated because i was working with a medical professional had calibration gear so for For the rest of us here. If you're saying. I want to try this. Here's the deal. go to a doctor. You can search for an ozone doctor. And say i'd like to try ozone therapy and see what it does and you can. Actually i wanna try installation. Which means the doctor's going to basically give you a bag of ozone and you're gonna you know put it where the ozone chines and what And you can see what it do for you and if you say well. This is really interesting. I'd like to do more. You realize you can have access to the suffer the rest of your life essentially free or nearly free. The cost of welding oxygen. You use a leader at a time and there's hundreds of leaders a little tank so you'll be okay. Yeah last forever so like an oxygen tank will typically be six to twelve months for people doing it at home. It's going to be an additional twenty bucks when you need to get. It refilled in on finding a doctor. So if you're looking for a doctor to do ozone therapy you can go to map. Doctors ozone dot com to find a doctor. And that's just a map of the doctors. In the united states dot doctors dos ozone dot com. Yeah so it's map dot d. r. s. it's not spelled out the r. s ozone dot com of goes a list of doctors on there. And you can find locally usually. That's a great resource for you guys. So my golden spot. I want you to go out and try ozone therapy. Even if you're saying i'm totally kicking ass. There's another level of kicking ass that happens when your brain works better. When you're meadow. Kander make more of their antioxidants because they actually got stressed Let's talk about enhancing athletic performance since you're listening to bulletproof radio you're probably passionate about learning how to take control of your biology and your life. Hey that's the definition biohacking right. That means that you'd be interested in the human potential coach training. This is a program designed by myself alongside human potential teacher and physician. Dr mark atkinson a friend and partner and we put together a training program with more than one thousand people in training or certified that combines everything you'd expect from premium life coaching plus cutting edge insights from positive psychology nutrition and even neuroscience the trainings accredited. 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You've seen that say that ozone actually takes healthy people and makes them more performance. Yeah so there's there's a lot of research on ozone's ability to mediate. Oxidative stress and increase oxygen efficiency. So oxidative stress is defined as an imbalance between free radicals and antioxidants. Free radicals being these little molecules. That are byproducts of if you're mighty andrea that will steal electrons from other cells and damaged dna damage to the cell and you don't necessarily want excess of that they can be good certain scenarios for cell signaling like that so they're not all bad but when you have the imbalances when it's bad the antioxidants on the other hand are the ones that quench the free radicals. So they have an electron to be able to give away so one of the things that ozone therapy claims to be able to do. The research behind it shows is that can actually mediate oxidative stress. And that's really interesting because ozone is an accident. Why would you be using an oxidant to mediate oxidative stress. It doesn't make much sense. does it. Well when you go out and exercise what are you causing oxidative stress. of course. Yeah absolutely and the reason that it's healthy is because actually signals a different pathway than smoking. Would which is severe oxidative stress or obesity. Or these things that are bad for you. That cause in unwanted amount of oxidative stress so ozone is actually similar to exercise in it signals a similar pathway called the interrupt who pathway Where it's actually good for you so this can be good in terms of athletic performance. Because it'll help people to recover faster. It'll help them to diminish the effects of you know. Those workouts had a really tough. If you're playing football those hits and then on the other side of oxygen efficiency. So i know frank shellenberger. You've talked to him quite a bit about this and those types of things. There's two things that can happen to oxygen when it goes into your body can create energy or free radicals so a basketball player for instance. If you have two different basketball players one made one hundred points in the other made twenty. You might say well. The one who made one hundred is better. But what if he shot three hundred baskets so he didn't have necessarily a very good percentage of baskets. Eddie made where the other guy hit one hundred percent. You the guy who made less points but ahead of one hundred percent of the baskets would be better basketball player so with oxygen deficiency. It's not necessarily the amount of oxygen that you're breathing in. that's important in that scenario. It's how well your body is utilizing the oxygen because if you're not utilizing it well you're creating free radicals you're creating these things that you don't want so oxygen deficiency is important for being able to maintain higher levels of cognitive performance for athletic performance It's just a fundamental aspect of our lives that we all need okay. So let's say. I'm a powerlifter Do i do ozone workout after work. I'm not okay but just in terms of a string sport. Would you do ozone correctly before your squad. I'm kidding like like what's the right protocol for performance enhancement with ozone so. Yeah we've been working with some guys in the nfl that are now using it. They're usually doing it. Prior to the event because that's going to increase your oxygen deficiency. That's going to help you with the oxidative stress that you're going to encounter during that event And we have a lot of long distance athletes who use it. Triathletes cyclists those types eases before how long before the event Probably within a couple of hours if you can if you go more than that totally fine But sooner the better. I don- our before. And they're doing it. Rectal lamb assuming are they doing intravenously. Yeah that's especially for a sports that have a governing body over them. You can't do a lot of those intravenous methods because it's considered doping or those types of even though just consider doping it is actually because if you take blood out of the body governing bodies if you take blood out of the body and you reintroduce it back in it's considered blood-doping so even though you did it within forty miles science. Yeah it's just kind of this crazy thing but they can do rectal inflation that's totally fine But yeah for some reason. They got caught doing the intravenous methods. That wouldn't be good even though there's no way to measure it you know. What are they gonna say like. Oh your oxygen deficiency is off the charts like. You're doing super good with that. You know they're not going to be able to find anything with that but You can't do the intravenous methods so they're usually doing like rectal insulation Within a couple hours before the event all right and just a note of caution. If you're thinking you're going to maybe do it before a workout a couple of times because it's not that uncommon that you're gonna have to hit the bathroom within a half hour of doing a rectal inflation so you don't wanna be on the field with that problem a little uncomfortable right. And if you're sitting here going. Dave you're seriously having podcast about putting ozone up your but yeah i am. It's only because it works right and i. I wish i could explain in in the best language. How profound of difference this was because when you have brain fog this unending from exposure to toxic moulder lime disease. You feel like you're hung over all the time. And the first time i did this i had five minutes or my brain felt like. Oh that's how. I used to feel and then the next day. I said i'll do that again. The next day. You get six minutes and seven minutes in every every night. I would do this for about eighteen months except when i was traveling when i'm just not traveling with all the stuff and it really helped me to restore the reactive. Oxygen species management system in my motto. Qendra i mean i was. I was really bad. And i've heard this over and over and over From people like one of my dear friends his His wife has been having problems. Mako plasma which systemic infections and things that have really effective quality of life just three times intravenously and then possesses why feel like myself again in the entire family gets the flu except for her even though she's the one who always get sick like gee i wonder if ozone out some do that it did and and so this deserves your attention you care about the kind of things i talk about on bloomberg radio this this just works. What specifically have you seen in the research about mold toxicity and ozone. Because that's what hit me. But yeah so. I can't point to one of the things with the research. There is a lot of really good research. There's a lot of great research out there. But they're usually just trying to. It's a very complicated thing to understand it. Because it's so fundamental a drug goes into the body it's pretty easy to measure because it turns something on it. Turns something off. Ozone is assisting your body and homeo- stasis which is super fundamental to everything. You're doing so a lot of the research that's being done is still trying to understand. What exactly is ozone therapy doing in the body. We have all these results. We have millions of therapies. That are done around the world but we still don't know to pinpoint exactly what's happening. So most of the research efforts that are currently being done are being focused on that. Now there's a lot of clinicians in the united states that's still the case studies. That are still doing. Hey i had thirty. Forty patients with mole toxic city. This was the result. I had from it. I can't point to one off the top of my head and specific to mold or mould toxicity but anecdotally And something that. I've seen again and again is that people are experiencing positive results with those on therapy and toxic city and it has a very ability to modulate the immune system so modulating the immune system over reactive like autoimmune can help the quiet down underperforming it can help raise it up so in the case with mold. Toxicity your surpressed. You're not getting rid of the things that you need to get rid of ozone can be really helpful for that because it's going to help stimulate your immune system to work as it's supposed to bring it back into homeo- stasis what's the best strength of ozone to use regularly so start slow and start with a little bit. What does that mean. Work your way up. And what that means. Dave would be. Usually people are doing like two hundred l. ozone at ten to twenty micrograms per milliliter or gamma now that sound super scienc- and makes it like ooh this thing but it's not a small amount of air inter milliliters. Is you know twenty percent of a leader and you can easily hold leader of gas in your in your calling in fact You should never mind. Yeah he sure. Is that from experience. All i can say continues to work very well so anyway I it's it's a very small amount. It's a it's basically to farnsworth there. You go that's a good way to put it okay. Parts worth and ten to twenty gamma is not particularly strong. But you would you. It's a very sharp smell of ozone debris that but we're talking like a very almost not noticeable. What's going on when when you put that in. But you'll feel the difference so that'd be a very entry level like i've trying it for the first time kind of yeah people will do that. Ten to twenty game we call it gamma typically. That's just like saying units. It's not specific. Or scientific roy and easier to say yeah kinda so we say gamma. Ten to twenty gama's typical start at and people usually work up to fifty Would be the higher level recommended with more than two hundred miles right up to four hundred miles. Two hundred to four hundred four hundred. You don't ever people do. But most of the recommendation. So this comes from dr sylvia mendez out of cuba. Which i'm sure you're familiar with her and a lot of the work she's done. She ran ozone hospital out of cuba for many years where they did hundreds of thousands of treatments and so they found that going higher doesn't necessarily produce a better physiological response so the body seems to take in us what it wants to use but it doesn't necessarily end there are people who will contest this but it doesn't necessarily according to what they did produce a better result just to go higher on the rectal inflation's okay got it and how frequently can you do it Usually people are doing some sort of cycling. So what that means is you're going to be doing it On and off so like five days on two days off or three weeks on one week off and so people will do it once a day for three weeks and then take one week off the second month. They'll do twice a day for three weeks. And then one week off They never exceed twice a day but typically they're doing yeah up to twice a day and they don't start off on the twice a day either. That's just after a month of doing it after you've basically built it up and i look at a zone as exercise for andrea. So you're not gonna go from. I haven't exercised in ten years. I think i'll go do the cross fit wad if you do that. You're going to cause huge amounts of muscle damage and probably clog your kidneys. Because you weren't you weren't condition to do that. You have to work your way up to it. And it's the same thing if you just do the heaviest duty oxidative therapy. You're probably not gonna like it but if you start small and just work your way up you end up having cells that become incredibly resilient and they can handle way more than you ever thought you could handle more. It's in terms of any inflammatory compound any immune in salt and things like that resilience in the face of any kind of disease. I can go up. Which is pretty amazing thing for showing that costs one sent to do. Once you have the gear i mean. It's almost free yeah. It's really incredible. Cheapest that people need to watch out for if you're immune suppressed and you have a lot of things floating through your body that you need to get rid of but your immune system is in dealing with it and then you kick it on. What do you think is going to happen. You're going to have a ton of symptoms that do not feel very good. So that's commonly called the herzog reaction but for people that are immune suppressed. That are actually have a lot of bugs floating around if they start out the gate doing a ton of ozone and just go right into it they may end up feeling really sick and it could be a good thing potentially You know but it might might not that you don't necessarily want to go into the hurt saima reaction so so that means that the ozone is working so it's not good but having experienced a lot of time reactions It's it's pretty uncomfortable. You basically feel like you're hungover and you just dragging and nothing works in. Your joints are swollen. And what's going on here. Is you actually killed a whole bunch of bacteria or whatever else is going on and then your body clean up all that stuff and it actually makes you feel really bad. However there's a bunch of techniques that are well known for managing a hurts hammers one is more ozone can help because it turns on your oxidative handling abilities but activated charcoal and glutathione. Two things that. I'm very well known for putting in the world of biohacking. Those are both things that help charcoal mops up toxins so you don't have to experience them in good fan makes us. Your liver can do a better job of letting go of of these toxins or processing them. And what's really cool about darby is you. Don't do go to fan. i you wait until after. You've done your ozone therapy even a couple of hours after because ozone will cause your body to generate more glutathione in and of itself so it says. Oh i guess i should be able to handle these. These stresses so my ability to turn on all of an accent systems just went up and then you boost it so i haven't had a hurts heimer kind of reaction for a very long time in part because i'm exceptionally healthy now And i do work people who are just starting on a path of recovery and they do ozone the usually feel better but like so they overdo it. then they have to take all the binders and everything else. And and usually it's manageable. When i first started this dumb and no one understood all this very well so you just craft for six weeks but at least you were getting better so i think we're we're past that okay maximum. You'd use those fifty gamma From for using rectal ozone. Yeah that's typically the recommended range for the rectal insulation and it's going to be different based on what you're doing all the treatments and therapies have different stuff. Is it okay. If i tell a website they can go to absolutely sure. Okay so if you go to doctors ozone which is d. r. s ozone dot com slash. Bulletproof there's a landing page there that'll give you access to videos. Instruction banks go through all of this team. No you did that. The school yeah. Of course well so. Yeah and that's for Just all the information about doing ozone therapy whether it's the practitioner the athlete the person who has line There there's really all the information there that you need to know about doing ozone therapy at home. That's a powerful resource. And i'm assuming you're probably going to try and sell pupil your ozone gear that simply. Oh three stuff that you make doctors ozone so doctors ozone doesn't sell anything. It's just an this is yours. I but this is your educational site. I don't actually own it. But i do help out with an open community resource. Exactly good deal awesome. I've just making sure that they were transparent and be. I don't even know because Well thank you for doing that. Well there yeah. The reason after separate amount is just a liability so doctors ozone being an only educational channel. Simply all three does not educate people. you just sell hardware. I i got it up. Yeah exactly Who would have thought that You'd have to do that but it's actually the same food. yeah right. Food companies can't stay with. Food does because clearly food can't do anything only drugs can do things. The crazy dances. We dance all right. Let's talk about some of the other things topical. If i wanted to do ozone say i've got a scratch. I mean my kids have had into the red things creeping up from cuts on their legs. And things like that. Where you're going. That might be intravenous antibiotics and three hours later. They're fine because of of ozone. But how high can you go. When you're doing cupping cupping means. Is you basically run the ozone gas into little funnel that you stick against the body. How strong do you go so they can go a lot stronger on that because it's the skin so With some of the other parts of the body you don't wanna go to strong because there's a limited amount of antioxidants on that area with the skin. It's not very permeable. Keeps things out pretty well so you can do higher concentration of ozone so yeah you to one hundred So people typically will start at a higher like hundred eighty somewhere in that range and then titrate down over time so if there was like an infection on leg and somebody wanted to do ozone for that they would start at a high concentration of ozone one hundred and then over the course of a couple of weeks. Just keep on lowering it little by little and it's usually like you said like twenty thirty minute ordeal that you just kinda sit there and you let the ozone go in and then it goes out through a d. structure you not breeding any of it. What i do When my kids. And i really don't wanna give me antibiotics if not really necessary like. Hey let's we don't watch a lotta tv so okay. Let's watch something on net flicks And you sit here. We're going to hold this against your leg or your ear or whatever zones gonna flow until we're gonna have a fan on in case any leaks around the thing and it's pretty painless than the kids like. Oh this was fun. I actually got to watch something. It was a non issue compared to even putting nieto's born on it's about the same level of concern and speaking of something like nieto's barn all right so would you put that on and then ozone eight. which after ozone owner would you not use it at all well. Neil sporran is an antibiotic. And i think there's a lot of good things to that but you're also killing things that you don't necessarily want to get rid of so in the case You know i'm going to be partial to osa needed oil. That's when you ozone gas you infuse it into an oil crates ozone i which is not the same as ozone gas has some similar antiseptic properties. And it's pretty robust and one it's able to do so my personal preference in what we use. Our kids is to use like an oil or knows it cream on the body and just rub that into the affected area. Minutes smells bad. Well are like a very strong ozone smell like my hands smell. It goes yeah it is a love hate so some people love it. Some people hate it. We did produce one The has a better smell to it because it's made to. Yeah we we basically just up the game on it and we're like hey ozone oil kind of sucks right now. What can we do to make better and so very cool. I haven't tried that one so there is great merit and i've used it under a band aid and it's one of those anti-infective things i've also use it on on toenails and for things like athlete's foot and all it it gets rid of that stuff very reliably. I'm that's it with my kids. I do ozone and then afterwards i if they have a real infection. I'm totally happy to put on afterwards. Because we're talking about intravenous antibiotics within twenty four hours kinds of situations if it's a little scratch with a little bit of plus it's different. It's a different situation there. Okay and then. What about things like aging ozone facials or reducing wrinkles and stuff like that. What's the latest with ozone and that. Yeah so we're hitting on a number of different areas here there's the anti aging or the cosmetic there's the medical or the would be for like chronic illnesses. There's the injections for slip this. Which by the way as is been repeated study showing sixty to seventy percent efficacy on slipped disk. It's amazing that's as good as surgery for five hundred bucks. In fact i I was on the jury rogan show years ago and he was having back problems and i referred him to a doctor did pro zone and he's like my back doesn't hurt. Yeah i totally remember that i. You just drag me and yeah it. It's amazing i've had ozone injected and my knees my shoulders case. We forgot to mention that earlier. Repeated studies from independent parties. Just over and over you can just like google prollo zone ozone injections in disk and you'll find a bunch of them so anyway that's another one and then there's dental so we're talking about cosmetic right now and its uses for anti aging cosmetic doing the medical therapies like the rectal inflation is going to reduce oxidative stress in her oxidative stress increases as we age. So that's one of the big benefits. Dad's mediating it but if you're talking specifically about wrinkles scarring those types of things. Then people will actually do little injections into the area to help with the wrinkles a lot of times. They'll make prp so they'll do the platelet rich plasma. That's where you pull the blood out you spin it down and you have These platelets are going to have a lot of growth factors in them. They mix that with the ozone and then injected back into the area. So what that does is rather than bo talks. Which shuts the body down essentially just paralyzes it and says. Hey you're not gonna work here anymore so that you'll look a little bit younger for awhile. this actually helps to regenerate the body to work as it's supposed to interesting i just maybe a little bit of tmi. But i was doing electrical stimulation On based on gluts. And i was working on a trauma gluts on my feet and i have some very high end electrical gear and unfortunately i'm laying there doing this and unplugged the electrode pads so i had bare metal against my but so i have these three really deep. It was like kind of this little spicier than normal but a metal electrical drill a hole in your skin. So i have these three spots on my but where i probably had four millimeter deep holes like these are real serious roles and like i didn't really feel it very much but after it's like what is going on here so these three read scars like much deeper than you'd ever imagine they self cauterize you go so i just injected all of them with ozone says. The scars will actually heal faster so a photo evidence of this. The problem is i'd have to show you my. But so i'm not policies but i'm actually tracking them with photos to see what happens because otherwise these are scars that would take three or four years to heal. Yeah they're very very deep red scars so it looks like i have like three pimples on my but that it's just it's just not okay. I'm cutting on ozone. Because i really care about the contour of my but while that's important right i mean the healing scarring so and i was telling my father in law. He has this nasty scar right down his finger. He was trying to catch like some. He is making wine. Or something and Yeah anyway something fell down. He tried to catch it and a basically slices finger off. He's a chiropractor so his hands are pretty important trait but he has this hand the finger that is all messed up and kind of looks like this. It's all bent. It's not straight anymore. And so as an encouraging him to try to do the ozone injections just right into the scar. They're these tiny needles. Just these little cosmetic needles. They're not deep but what that does is. It helps the scar to break up a helps the body to regenerate the area and we'll with the The healing time so won't take his long to get totally healed so it would. We keep sending like ozone Fan boys here But i'd say it's for scarring. Yes for discs. Yes and the thing you just mentioned is is actually where i got my start doing ozone A very long time ago it was from ozone dentistry. Because right now we have a big problem where when people are doing fillings and root canals They they can't effectively sterilize. It so you get these smoldering infections underneath that are well established in functional medicine to lead to weird problems later but an ozone dentist goes in and sterilizes it with ozone gas special needles that they use to inject around the gum and all and then they put on whatever cap or even root canals that they're going to do and then you don't get rot inside the tooth which is astounding and it should just be standard practice industry. But it's not yet. Are there other uses of ozone besides that industry that i just don't know about I mean there's a lot that they're using it for. They're using it for absences Source people are swishing. The water there sterilizing their tools with a doctor. Valerie kanter out of ucla is trying to get the standard to be ozone instead of clock. So the dennis are still using bleach. Which is crazy. Because they're putting bleach right into the mouth. Who wants that. They kind of try to cover it up and like what is that. Well you know. don't ask but anyway. They're putting bleach in the mouth as standard procedure for sterilizing things. The fantastic thing with ozone while he can't breathe it. They'll just put a section in the back of the throat as soon as it's done it reverts back into oxygen so there's no cost effect to it and it's able to sterilize. Those areas of the two. That really need it. So it's actually. Dentistry is probably the fastest growing field for ozone and is the most likely to get the fda approval for the equipment and those types of things. So i think Dentistry with ozone is just a fabulous fit. That is that's profound at this point. You're is going. I didn't know that. Ozone which i thought was a pollutant. Could do all these things. So we're talking about contrel restoration and enhancement anti infectious stuff. There's anti aging anti scarring And just a whole host of things and it's mice opposition to you that if you wanna have a a household that is more economically effective In safer no matter what weird flus colds and other stuff is floating around out there. You really ought to have an ozone generator at home and no have used basic rectal topical ozone because you will feel better for decades if you can do it and it's that big of a deal so mica thanks for coming on to just kind of walk through what you see what people are using your equipment for in for putting together that community resource tummy the or elmore time. 'cause i yeah yeah. The url is doctors ozone d. r. s. ozone dot com slash bulletproof so doctors of ozone dot com backslash bulletproof. And if people want to reach out to me they can just reach out to me. Mica at doctors ozone dot com which is d. r. s. ozone dot com. Okay got it so. Hopefully you'll hear some cool stories about ozone therapy and and whatnot. I think it's it's just worth it and this is one of those things that is just coming online. I asked mark hyman. Yeah yeah mark has been on the show dear friend in we're at some medical conference somewhere and we're both on a panel and the the panelists moderator said. Hey guys what is over the next five years. What are the new things coming. Online that are going to be most effective marks. Actually i think it's ozone. And i'm one hundred percent alignment with that. So part of my job here is to to shine the light of attention on stuff that really works that is cost effective and one of the things that that really attracted me your stuff as you're saying look we got the costs down so instead of being a few grand is nine hundred and fifty bucks and this is for hundreds and hundreds of treatments that you can use on your whole family as long as you how to do it right number one thing. Don't breathe stuff. You need to do it and even before you stick it somewhere. Go doctor try it. Once you know get taught how to do it or at least look videos on The doctors ozone site. That are going to teach you how to do it safely so you you can't harm yourself if you don't know what you're doing do not breathe. Do not put it on your dogs and stuff like that. You know any animals any people that breathe this it can be really harmful But when it's done properly it is very safe and really effective. Thanks for coming. On and website g. r. s. ozone dot com doctors ozone and. That's where you can learn more. I guess slash bulletproof specific page. That runs over like biohacking kind of stuff. Doctors ozone does have more stuff it's could more medically based as you put together some special stuff. That people like i go to the website cover. You like to go there and learn a bunch of stuff. It'll be cool. Yeah all right thanks man. Yeah happy to be here. Thanks if you like. Today's upset you know to do. Get a bag of ozone and stick it. Okay you could do something else as well but What i would like you to do though is visit the webpage and just learned something about ozone therapy. I've got a few things on the bulletproof website. I mentioned the other podcast with some of the luminaries in the field. But just take five minutes. See what the says and put it in your arsenal of things you can do to increase your biology and if you ever really sick and nothing's working telling you ozone ozone ozone bulletproof radio was created a hosted by dave asprey the producer darcy himes. Podcast assistant bev. Hamson podcast for information purposes. Only statements and views expressed this podcast or not medical advice. This podcast including dave aspirin. The producers disclaim responsibility for any possible adverse effects from the use of information contained herein. Opinions of guests are their own in. This podcast is not endorser. 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Nutrition Goes Primal with Dr. Paul Saladino and Nora Gedgaudas : 860

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This book would like to do it upright. Why is it that. There's these incredible just warfare things online both at the both radical in suspect. Like if you eat a car begin. You're about person or you know if you eat a drop a fat you're gonna die right. Where's the anger in the bile coming from. I can tell you from might more than twenty years of experience in working with the brain and nervous system and by the way portland is number two in the country in terms of being a vegan center right By far the most damaged intractable brains and nervous systems. I've ever worked with have been hardcore vegetarians. In especially vegans in. We're talking about extremely agitated nervous system and you know once things get past a certain point you know we can store maybe five years worth the b twelve. You deplete that. Some of the neurological damage that occurs past. A certain point is not necessarily reversible. Now and so. By the time a lot of these people came to me. They were willing to do anything. But it's really really hard you know passes earn point to to bring somebody back out of neurodegenerative processes sorry paul that i called you. James saw good good to be here. It's been a. It's been a good laugh for both of us this morning. You're you're well known now because you've been talking about the carnivore diet. Which is something. That's intriguing and something that people ask me a lot on the blog. Now they're like at least on social k. Dave is the bullet. Is the bulletproof diet compatible. The kind of art Look on the bulletproof diet. Look in the green zone is grass. Fed meat there. Yes it's compatible. I think that you know people who've read the book the carnivore code which i just released. We'll we'll get a little bit my story in there but it's i've been kind of in medicine for a while. My dad's doctor. My mom's always been interested in. What is the root cause of illness. Which i think is a fascination that both you and i share greatly this symptom focused pharmaceutical based paradigm and western. Medicine is is quite detestable to me and has been super frustrating throughout my medical career. So as i've struggled with my own autoimmune issues my own medical issues. I think this makes the best stories for all of us when we all suffer with something i had x. amount and asthma and they really didn't get a whole lot better until i cut plants out of my diet and there were a lot of steps in between there. I did a raw vegan diet for seven months ago and we were together time but man just trash you twenty five pounds of muscle mass weight loss and the worst gas of my life. I performance dangerous game. What the health you mean. It didn't work did not. And it's the worst idea ever you want to get old and sore and week. That diet is the one for you. I think it's what's incumbent upon us in the face of so many things we feel like we can't control is to take control of what we can be aware understand as much of this as we can and find ways of strategizing our way around the system and you know develop that firsthand knowing of where your food comes from as much as humanly possible and you know and and you know educate yourself and You know take responsibility for For as much as you possibly can when you get back to primal genetics. These twelve pillars. Yeah what what's the first one about uncompromised dietary quality. What does that mean. Uncompromised dietary quality means. You're consuming for instance. The animals food. You're consuming are coming from animals that have been themselves in a a diet. That is optimal for them. Right natural forage grass fed and finished. You know naturally or wild caught or or hunted or whatever And also when it comes to your plant based foods in organic biodynamic. And the more you have a first-hand knowing of where that plant food came from the better you know our ancestors ate a lot of organ meats and and and they did bone bone brought some eight bone marrow and all of that and in fact we have big brains in well many of stu. Anyway you know i. I won't name names to the exceptions but politicians and whatever but You know the the. It's so important for us to get these foods from the highest quality sources and understand that we need to develop a taste for things that you know that we've consumed over the last two point six million years that now are not so much commonly consumed in the food supply. But we have to go a little bit out of our way to find really high quality organ meats and make our own bone bras at home and all that stuff in order to get all of the nutrients that were supposed to be getting. College is like animal fiber these peptides in college and appear to be able to be fermented by the gut bacteria into short chain fatty acids so much of the criticism or potential criticism of carnivore. Diets is there's not enough fiber and there's a whole chapter in my book about debunking all these myths about fiber but we can use animal protein and specifically calamitous proteins from animals the connective tissue and the bacteria in our gut can use that in the same way they might use plant fiber to make short chain fatty acids which serve as fuel for the colonic epithelial cells. So anytime somebody says your carnivore diet zero fiber. I say well at zero plant fiber. But i get animal fiber an animal. Fiber is even better than plant fiber in my opinion. Not just in addition to all the benefits that having an adequate amount of glycemic in your diet to counterbalance the methionine rich muscle meat is how beneficial that is for humans. As well my ideas with carnivore diet and the carnivore code book are not intended to create an environment in which every person on the planet each zero plants. The ideas are really aimed at three big things. The first of them is that as we talked about red meat and oregon's are central to the human diet for the last millions of years critical for human evolution. Really made us human. And aren't i mean there's pretty good evidence that fish was at least as important our evolution. Sure some fish occasionally but there were lots of people who lived inland. Who maybe didn't get a whole lot of fish as well. So i think you can get a lot of the nutrients you get an fish if you eat nose to tail so we can dig into gatt as well. Yeah and the second point and the you know to just fully elaborate the first point. It's just that hey animal meeting. Oregon's belong in every healthy human diet. They've been incorrectly vilified for seventy years point number. Two plants exist on a toxin spectrum. I think you. And i c i s. They exist on a spectrum. They kill us. They really do hit us. Exactly plants hate us and if we ignore the fact that plant exists toxicity spectrum and make plant toxins which offend chemicals. We are abandoning a whole bunch of people who could get really well by eliminating the most toxic plants from their diet. Some people like me like other people. You know really well with zero plant foods in their diet. Other people can have some plant foods in their diet. It's not that. I'm trying to tell everyone. Two zero plants. It's that i'm saying there is a plant city spectrum. Understand what the most toxic plants are for. You eliminate those eat nose to tail with oregon meets with well raised red meat and organs and you will thrive just because again our ancestors did something is not a good enough reason for me to want to do the exact same thing now right. You don't have stonehenge in iraq. Use it that would be so cool. Wouldn't it would we just there actually was. It was really neat thing. I will say that. I'm friends with jeff jeff leach in you know who he is and he's said that actually that that That the friend since thought the hudson of course the diet that hudson reading now is not the diet that they always used to be able to hunt large animals anymore. Let them anymore right. So that's small game would ever and the eat a lot of honey but also developed of a genetic polymorphism that allows the bacteria in their gut to metabolize that honey so that it doesn't affect their insulin. It's like crazy adaptation. But they've developed a specific adaptation to it. I would not expect the average person in our culture to have that same adaptation. I've seen so many people go on no carb diet and after a couple of months they really don't like their life for special leno and it depends on what they're doing with that right. I mean i don't you know so i it's trite phrase but it's really true. I do tend to eat more vegetables and fibers vegetables and greens than most vegetarians. Vegans here right right. So i'm an advocate for that. But i it's it's i see it as supplemental not fa foundational not necessarily fundamental. But i do think those things are more important to us today than they ever used to be during our long evolutionary history just simply because of how embattled are by is in today's world with everything. I mean chlorinated water. You know. we're we're surra glyphosate. We're surrounded by antibiotics and so are good biomass constantly under attack anything we can do to prebiotics feed. That is great. I will say there are fermentable. You know animal fibers to and being the number one of holiday being very very high on the list. He has all kinds of connective tissue and things like that and at an even higher. I even more effective as a prebiotic then like fructose. Sacrifice might be. So what's very interesting here. And i don't think many people have talked about this. Is that fatty. Acids can serve as leipold kinds in the human body. These are like lipid hormones. We have a typical kind. Things like like acalan adiponectin. Which are hormones coming from the dipa sites but they're also light kinds and linoleic. Acid is an eighteen carbon omega-6 polyunsaturated fatty acid. And what we mean by that. They're eighteen carbons. There are multiple unsaturated points. Which are double bond between carbons and to do the nomenclature. The first double bond is six carbons from the end of the molecule. That is an eighteen carbon omega six polyunsaturated fatty acid. People always ask me about. Cla conjugated linoleic. Acid also an eighteen. Carbon fatty acid. That has double bonds in different places. It's not the same molecule. there are many isomers. There is romantic acid. There are many items that can be. Conjugated like acid. They are not these same molecule the position of the double bond pierce to matter and the shape of the molecule appears to matter and the sys- versus trans configuration of the hydrogens appears to matter. In the way these molecules signal most listeners will be familiar. With the fact that a lot of signaling human body is done by lincoln's and receptors one thing binds to another confirmational structures matter conjugated linoleic. Acid has trans configuration of many of the hydrogens at. That's how i like. How always bad. It's bags and you're like better side now. It's not it's gonna go deeper on that exactly so if you really look at the literature trans fats. From vegetable foods plant foods are the only ones that have been is associated with with harmful effects in humans. Naturally occurring trans. Fats are because plans. Wanna kill you. It just keeps going back to that. Plants want to kill you or if you take polyunsaturated vegetable oil like linoleic acid from plants and you hydrogenated at high heat oxygen Temperature that high temperatures are high oxygen environments that will form now a trans fat and that looks very harmful or foreign to the human body. But conjugated linoleic. Acid is different molecule from linoleic. Acid doesn't have the same signaling properties and doesn't act the same way in the human body the third one you mentioned his alpha leno lennox asset. That is an omega. Three fatty acids the double bond is again in the different position on the molecule now different different signaling. Different molecule completely interestingly. Al a alpha linoleic. Acid is the omega three touted by plant-based advocates. But as i mentioned in the carnivore code most humans are abysmal at converting it to the actual unitil forty five to one ratio right. Yeah yeah do you. Can't convert a la epa gpa or dha and human so basically. There are studies. That i mentioned the book where people are given lots of flax seed meal. Which probably has a lot of accidents is bad for you. Sorry three flags cookie. What's that got a great idea. Let's cook omega three fatty. Let's take the most the most wildly unstable fats out there and just cook them. That's a horrible idea. So you can give you a flaxseed meal. And you don't see any rise in epa or dha so getting your omega three from la which is the reason we are also told quote walnuts or good for us things like this like that's a l. a. and nuts are not really these epa dha and epa fatty that occur in plant foods. Yeah may say oh algae but that's a different story but generally speaking we again see the pattern. Animal foods provide us with the nutrients we need by now. You know the go to the ends of the world to improve the quality of my sleep. That's why i sleep with a canadian. Made copper infused allow. 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Which was the protein. Moderation thing. You know it really. This is not a carnivore diet. This is not a high protein diet. This is a very moderate protein diet. We're not going to get through all twelve of these. But i think i just isn't time in the show. I do think though that that's a really good example. All the principals are very much in alignment with what i've learned and they're they all make sense and they're all in your primal genetic program Which when you say it's a program as is this an online thing. It's an online thing or there are number of Ah videos at quite a number of them actually right now at least sixteen They're going to be additional All kinds of additional bonuses and handouts and things like that that you'll be getting and recordings there will also be a an exclusive forum where people can come on and they'll feel a sense of community you'll be able to ask ask questions and all that kind of thing so there'll be a lot of support around this as well but it's you know this is really You know kind of like a very very passionate thing that i have created rather than staking louis and there's nothing superficial or through education. it is. Yeah i'm planning to live an exception longtime Or at least i trying okay. How long do you think you can live. Oh man i know it. I don't know and an actually it doesn't matter to me that much what what matters is not so much the length of time that any of us live you know what's the point of living to one hundred twenty if you're on an oxygen tank and limping around and you know and You know if your mental faculties are gone and your joints or aching and whatever else so it's about the quality of life not the quantity of life in my mind. And that's so. Even though i part of what i do is i cross pollinate my ancestral research with him longevity research which you know again just because our ancestors did something is not necessarily good reason for me to want to do the same thing because just because something grew out of the ground and seem natural. They could shove it in their faces. Eat it and not drop dead. Doesn't necessarily mean that was health optimizing for them. I wanna know what's optimizing and so that's my approach and it seems very puritanical. But i've got to tell you that we got no wiggle room. Today we do not have the wiggle room of our prehistoric ancestors. We don't even have the wiggle room. Her great grandparents or grandparents or even our parents that we are living in a modern world. That is more hostile to our being as as a human species then any hostile environment. We've ever lived through during our long evolutionary history. Only what we're wired for is a species are tangible threats right bit. Sabertooth tiger jumps out from behind. A bush chases year round. That's tangible cantankerous. Willie ma'am at the poison. Snake a warring tribe a major storm a seismic event or even famine. That's tangible but today we're all living in these lovely seventy two degree climate controlled environments. We have plenty. That don't have to take more than a couple of steps in any direction to grab a handful of something. We might want to call his food. And you know we're sitting on a comfy couches and you know watching dancing with the stars and eaten cheesy doodles and thinking. We're got it pretty good in. We feel like we're sitting in a hot tub in vegas when really boiling frogs and so most of what threatens our survival today as a species are those things that are fundamentally invisible to us contaminants in our air water and food supply. You know mycotoxin certainly emf. And god help us five g. and radiation contamination and the sociopathic imaginings of multinational corporate interests. And you know all kinds of things are threatening us in ways that are invisible and therefore we're not wired to know to pay attention to those things and to take action in order to protect ourselves and so again you know we have to take control of what we can because you know. Were being impinged on from every from every which direction could i just mention that the people i work with who eat nose to tail have the highest coenzyme q ten levels. I've ever seen. I believe and heart you know. Heart is one of the oregon and our beef against supplement. Heart is a fantastic source of coenzyme. Q ten and i would encourage you guys. Do these tests. That david i are talking about. Get a baseline co q. Ten level eat nose to tail. Get liver and heart pancreas and spleen. And then show you're cardiologists. How much co q. Ten is in your blood. They've never seen a co q. Ten of like two or three or four. It's crazy the upper limit. So that you get these labs from quest for cleveland heart and they say a good coenzyme q ten is like point seven three. I routinely see people with two three four for the coq ten levels. it's amazing And it's just that is the physiologic level of co q. Ten that humans should have when they are eating an animal based diet and just levels of beats well. Yeah they're much higher above the reference range. I think she'd be true for riboflavin fully all of that. There are so rich in the foods. I think it's because you're not giving the anti versions of those that are blocking things right. Yeah i i still think. Most oregon's aside from sweetbreads They pretty much tastes like crap. I would rather take a handful of designate argon. Choked down a liver. Whatever my wife's different cheap makes these like liver pies. And she cuts his huge pieces of them. And i'm like man. I'm i'm fast day a swedish. Hey it's important. This comes up a lot for people. It's almost like like we said if you're gonna eat organs the possibility and the physician in me bristles at this because everybody gets worried about food safety. If you're gonna eat a lot of these organs you either. Want to eat them raw desiccated. That's the best thing you don't want to cook the crap out of most of these organs to say and just like you don't want to. I mean we talked about on the first cast past podcast. I don't think we want to cook the crap out of any of our foods. You mentioned that. You're not a fan of like overly stewed meats. Neither am i bad for you at. You can feel the difference. It really is. Yeah eat mostly meets blanche. Now i'll make a bone broth and then just flash cook them in the water from minute like less than a minute. They're mostly rather blanched on the outside. I don't do any cooking and pans anymore. People always say okay vegetable oils are so bad. What can i cook in. The answer is no. Don't cook oil nora. Thanks for being unable radio website. She primal body primal mine tribe primal body hyphen primal. Mine dot com. I also have a certification course. Fifty two weeks worth of in-depth material. Yeah if you go to primal courses dot com you can learn more about my different programs and And and learn more about Minute you Primal genyk plan program Which i think is going to be an easy way. For people to incorporate these changes into their lives in a way that will make a real difference. Or you've definitely you troll. Principles are all correct as far as understanding of the world is and it is not easy to do that well executed. Thanks for being a pioneer in theme changer. Disruptor in the field. Yeah i'm a rabble-rouser that's for sure. Total troublemaker but you know i'm in good company so there we put in without a layer. Yeah thanks dave. Appreciate it. I like to think about. I like to think about the nutrients that we need to make testosterone right. You need zinc. You need b-vitamins you. You can get us from thrown precursors and in the future at heart and soil. We're gonna come out with a dedicated. 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How Fasting Can Slow Aging And Optimize Health

The Doctor's Farmacy with Mark Hyman, M.D.

16:26 min | 2 months ago

How Fasting Can Slow Aging And Optimize Health

"Coming up on this episode of the doctors pharmacy the understanding of fasting or intermittent fasting time restricted eating or even longer fast date faster day a day fast a week or three day fast they have profound effects in our biology to optimize all the pathways that lead to health and even longevity. Hey everyone it's mark something. I get more and more excited about every year is personalized medicine. When i began practicing functional medicine over twenty years ago it was clear to me. We have to look at how you need. Each body is now with the technology advancing an amazing ways. We can truly take that concept to the next level one of the tools i- recent discovered that can help us all do that from home is inside tracker founded in two thousand nine top scientists in aging genetics and biometric data from mit. Tufts and harvard. Inside tracker is a personalized health and wellness platform. Like no other. It's purpose built to help you live a longer more productive life. 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They're offering mike immunity twenty five percent off at inside tracker dot com forward slash. dr hyman. that's dr hammond. Inside tracker dot com. That's i n. s. i. d. t. r. a. c. k. r. dot com slash. Dr hyman vr h. Ym an and you'll see the discount code in your cart. Now let's get back to this week's episode of the doctors pharmacy. Hi i'm k. Perot at one of the producers of the doctors pharmacy podcast. We know that food has an amazing ability to heal. But the timing of when we eat or abstained from eating can also have really amazing health benefits. Dr hyman discussed the many ways too fast and how they work to optimize health and his conversation on aging. Well with dr. Frank lippmann so so. Let's talk about this idea of of time restricted eating because it it it's a and there are many ways to quote fast. We'll call intermittent fasting. Which is maybe not eating for a whole day or three days or a week. Sometimes there's time restricted eating which is only eating with a certain time window. There's fasting mimicking diet. Which are eating less calories for number of days to stimulate saint pathways. there's ketogenic diets the all do very similar thing. so what. What is the biology of how this works. We know that these these things do work looking at animal studies human studies and who's of improving metabolism and the longevity file markers but what what are we seeing in how these methods actually work and what is the most effective. What should people be doing and take advantage of this new science right. So what they doing. I mean the way i explained to patients is which i think is. Is i mean student doing a number of things. But it's triggering your body's on self cleansing mechanisms off the eating for a certain amount of tom. Fourteen probably more sixty hours. Your body's self. Cleansing mechanisms kick in which is very important with the aging process because one of the the factors in aging is your body once and it goes back to functional medicine. The functioning of these systems done work as well so the costing actually starts putting the that autophagy system into play. So i think that's probably one of the most important aspects in also improve motto condo function which said decreases as we get older so the the the consequences of fostering or what happens in your body often the opposite of what happens as you get older. So that's why i think it's important. Why which way of fostering is. This is the way that you'll do. I mean whatever. Works easiest for persons what i encourage and i think the easiest one for most people is to eat dinner earlier and eat breakfast later. What i do. And what i recommend now if people wanna do a day of water fussing what three days or even more that's great. That's a little bit more complicated and and most people want to do that. But if you can do that that's fine is also this. Fostering mimicking dot. Will you do five days. A month of very low calories and none animal protein and low cobs. And you know we've actually created some shakes. Oh my health. Coach has some recipes for people. They wanna do it themselves. You can buy the crow lawn Cakes that you should bring out some shade. I mean it's another granite. Bring our five day program of because it works. I mean we've done on patients that actually question you get the same results with you. Do fostering mimicking dot for five Intimate and foxing. We see positive results across the board with biomarkers in different types of fos inside. I think there's one way. I think the way is to find the way that you will do and then works. Easiest your lifestyle. Yeah you know. People say dr hyman. What do you eat for snacks. And i'm like i don't i think snacking is the worst. Invention snack. foods are typically really unhealthy. And they're a modern invention and we used to not have to be eating all the time. And that's the problem. Where you know all the time and i think you know just to underscore you said about these different approaches to time. Restricted eating intermittent fasting festival making diets as they activate a set of mechanisms in the body that improved blood sugar. Control get rid of belly. Fat that increase muscle synthesis that build your bone density that increase testosterone that increased brain function and cognitive function. That improve your stem cell function than help your immune system and they clean up all the debris in yourselves. It's called a tough. Which what you're saying. So self cleaning mechanisms. There's my tafa as well that comes from from the same process. So these are these are things that we actually can take advantage about without. Actually changing what we eat now. If you change what you eat you get a double benefit but these are very powerful things that we should be paying attention to in the science and he can just feel better. You feel more energetic rhyming. Sluggish from eating food. All the time right now that thank you. All those mechanisms are what actually start in the decreases as we get older. It becomes harder to keep your blood sugar under control the muscles synthesis. We'll bring cook. Mission and brain function foster is lack a magic co all eating less and Is a magic will serve to. Yeah probably the most important thing you can do. it's true. dr. Hyman also spoke about this with fasting expert. Dave asprey the understanding of fasting or intermittent fasting. We're time restricted eating or even longer fast day faster day a day fast a week or three day fast they have profound effects in our biology to optimize all the pathways that lead to health and even longevity that help our energy decreased risk of disease and do a whole series of different things. So can you kind of take us down that road of what do we know about the science of this. Because it's it's really phenomenal when you start to look at it. Wow you know if you look at fasting. Intermittent fasting or time restricted eating or bulletproof ousting or fasting mimicking diets. Or keita's you guys. They all they all do the same thing. Which is rejuvenate your biology. It's really rejuvenated and regenerative medicine. it is so rejuvenating. What fasting does. That's really cool. Is fasting allows you to say okay. I'm going to teach my body to not worry so much about food. I'm going to turn off the voice. In my head and from that perspective it frees up so much energy and then biologically it does something else. That's magic because when you have enough energy you're able to em- emotionally regulate better than otherwise. So you're saying but dave if you fast you'd have less energy but the cool thing is when you fast the mitochondria the power plants in yourselves. The ones that can't make it for four hours without food or for sixteen hours or eighteen hours long. You're fasting. the body goes wait a minute. I guess i should go to the trouble of getting rid of the week. Mitochondria and replacing them with strong ones. And so now you've given yourself a power upgrade because it can generate more power when you do eat so okay number one. That's fixing our armato. Condu- fasting number two your pancreas and to a certain extent. Your liver makes enzymes in their jobs to break down proteins and other food items that you eat. It's also enzymes job to go into the body and fix stuff so you can only make so many enzymes per day as the maximum enzyme production capacity of the body. While what if because you're not eating protein. You're not eating carbs during the fast. What if the pancreas is available to make enzymes for healing the body of for digesting food. It will do that. And those two things work really well for aging and not. A lot of people are talking about supplementation during fasting because some supplements break fasting. One of the most important enzymes that. I think people should be taking win. They fast to accelerate this breakdown of old tissues. In the body of break-up scar tissue adhesions is pretty olympic enzymes and the most common one is called. Sarah pepsi's a lot of people who fast also miss out on electrolytes. Good fashioned salt is something. That's important especially in the morning. When i wake up some sea salt or himalayan salt is a good idea as well as magnesium and potassium so when you add these precious minerals in during a fast you actually feel much better and you're keeping your body more balanced and so true. I i literally take electrolytes. Every day i have a little bottle of liquid electrolytes scored until the water. I drink i think per interests cellular. Hydration it's a really important strategy that most people don't use it. I think i'm a big fan of that in terms of really dealing with the fundamental hydration status of the body that makes everything else work better. One of the things i do is i drink mineral water Which has a substantial amounts of electrolytes in. Its there's calcium magnesium potassium. there's probably less sodium in it but get plenty of sodium in my food and it's funny when you're fasting or when you're not fasting a little bit of salt when you first wake up. Takes the load off your adrenal glands and when you're fasting in is a state of stress on the body and it's not a bad stress unless you're already really stressed in which case i tell you maybe you ought not to fast. If you got a bad night's sleep your jet lagged it's okay. Have some breakfast. Just have some protein and some fat umbrellas. Don't have a lot of carbs and you're gonna you're gonna feel better Other sub people. Who shouldn't really be doing this that. It's it's too much for their system. There's a whole chapter for women in fastest way. That's really important. Because mark you. And i know this we state enough most of the studies that you'll find on pubmed. They were done on young white men and so during certain times on your cycle. It's okay to have breakfast. You already have enough biological stress so you wanna do your intermittent fasting on days when you're in pretty good shape two days a week because that good i think for women especially women who have a meaningful amount to lose. Or if they are in paramount apaz especially. Try it three days a week or five days a week but have breakfast a few times and don't have you know a bowl of cereal but have some eggs and salmon or whatever you like for breakfast what you're going to find there. Is that if you do. Intermittent fasting every single day and your metabolism is up for it. It's too much of a stress. And the idea of stresses turn stress on. Recover turn stress on recover but if you just turned stress on and stay that way after about six weeks what you'll find is that women hit the wall. I and their thyroid goes off and their sex hormones go so they're cycle becomes irregular. They don't feel as good in their sleep. Quality goes down. I guys take another couple of weeks on that. If they're living a normal stressful life like wait a minute. What happened after you're used to it after you've become trained on this. You can fast pretty much every morning if you want to. So i went. I want to dig in a little geeky science here with you. Because i think that most people don't realize all these strategies have a reason that we were designed and exquisitely adapted to starvation. We weren't designed to deal with the amount of abundant food supply. We have now which is about seven hundred plus calories more a day than we had per person fifty years ago right. You've got to eat in such a way that you don't have cravings and then fasting becomes painless and my of landis you know my my daughter wouldn't choose ten to daddy we get to school and right away. They start trying to make us have a snack. Don't the other kids have breakfast. I'm not hungry to lodge. i'd like to ask just really curious. And it was so cute but it's so sad and so the idea. Is that when you when you do that. All these things happen. You increase your cognitive function because you want to be able to find the next meal so your mental alertness in acuity improves. Your metabolism in increases the fat burning. So you can burn off your fat stores you you lose belly fat. You increase muscle mass increase bone density you reduce inflammation. You activate your antioxidant enzymes. You increase stem cell production. So you go into a full full on rehab repair and remodel. It's like getting your old car taken in the body shop and cleaning out all the junk and putting a new parts essentially. What happens when you do this kind of meeting. One important caveat a fasting. Is that when you do eat. You still need to eat. Well fasting and bingeing on ice cream and french fries is not going to get you anywhere. Eating real whole foods tons of non starchy colorful veggies. 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Using Love and Logic to Raise Resilient Kids  Dr. Charles Fay with Dave Asprey : 832

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Using Love and Logic to Raise Resilient Kids Dr. Charles Fay with Dave Asprey : 832

"Hi you're listening to bulletproof. Radio with dave asprey. Today is going to be a fun show. Because i get a lot of questions from the upgrade collective which is my membership and mentorship group that you should check out in fact. There's a bunch of upgrade collective numbers logged in live as recording. This podcast able to answer questions or ask questions into the show. But i get a lot of questions about parenting and dave. What do you do for parenting. Like i think. I'm a pretty good parent. But you know what every parent thinks. They're a pretty good parent at least some of the time Even if they're not so. How would i know if i'm good given my sample size is i had two parents. So i'm going to compare myself to them and then everyone says i'm going to do better than my parents which usually means you do exactly what your parents did even more or the exact opposite way parents did even more because of heard me talk about being vicarious vaccine industry curious in the middle where you know. I'm to pay attention to all the different data sources than make my decision. It's hard to be a curious parent because well you just haven't seen enough so then what you do. Is you go to an expert who has seen a lot of parenting and studied it and say all right. Well what's going to work. What's not going to work. And then you look for a believable trustworthy expert. And i think i've found someone for you today and the reason i think so is i recently interviewed at tanna. Amen about her amazing book. And you guys know. Daniel ayman very well extending. He's been on the show four or five times this guy who changed my life when his work change your brain change your life was as his first big but he showed me how to hardware problem. I in my brain so it wasn't a moral failing. It wasn't a lack of willpower. Not being smart enough. Is that my brain wasn't working. And i could hack that versus being a bad person. You can hack that too. 'cause you're probably not a bad person but you might think you're a bad parent some of the time and have the guilt and shame that everyone has even if you're mostly enlightened not that that's me but even some of the leaders and personal development than i am friends with. I don't know if i did that right as a parent. I did my best. So both daniel antennas dave. You gotta talk to this guy. He hasn't been called love and logic and he focused on raising resilient kids given that well we're telling our gives you all sorts of nonsensical stuff like wear a mask only when you're standing on your left leg but not your right leg and they know it's dumb right. The rules are not consistent. Kids hate it when adults lied to them. So they're already stressed. That hurts the resilience. So i figured you guys get used this now more than ever of gotten eleven and fourteen year old. I could use this now. And that's why we have. Charles fay phd who created love and logic as recommended by one of my favorite brain hackers on the planet. So there you go. There is an intro so to speak but it's based on years of research clinical experience and it's all about resilience charles. Welcome to the show. Thank you so nice. One of the really important parts of biohacking and something. That's made a big difference for me personally. Is light therapy. 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Dave and use code dave to get your discount some exclusions apply. Thank you so nice. Had and i have to say there are. There are plenty of times. I'll be honest with you. Where i go to my wife. Monica is we have. We have three kids. We have a thirty four year old son whose out about the twenty four year old son whose out and about and a fourteen year old son who a lot of times wants to be out and about but i go to her and i say monica you know. After the way things went in our house today. I have no business out there talking to anybody about parenting and a lotta times shows smile at me and say true. But that's what you do so get out there and do it but the good news is we don't have to be perfect and i want to start with that. We don't have to be perfect. I mean nobody is and you know what being a great model which we all know is important right and usually went parenting experts. Earning experts suck not. Modeling is start to rollback in our heads. Because we're like great now is gonna tell me that i have to be a better person. Behaves right and will truly modeling is so important and of course we we want to do the best. We can be good people but only if we can model making some mistakes out. I wonder if any of you are good at that modeling making mistakes and so that our kids can see us. Handled it with grace handle it with some confidence and handle it with. Hey i'm going to get back on the horse and try again you know i. I had two very imperfect parents growing up. And you know they follow me everywhere now. Because i got to see how much they love me. And i got to see their genuineness. And as a result to that i took their values and unconsciously stuck inside of my heart hidden so everywhere. I go there they are and that's what i want for. You is is to have such a tight connection and authentic connection with your kids so that they They put you inside of them and they wake up when they're older and look in the mirror and say hell man i might. I might dad or my mom. Or i'm both so Modeling important but the remember a little soundbite for you i like to speak in soundbites failures not final. It's informative one of the things that i've done with my kids for a long time is at night when i'm tucking them in Is also say okay. Three things are grateful for right and then find something good. That happened that day. And then tell me something you failed at today and then failure is something that you worked on doing. You want it to happen and it just didn't happen and then if i didn't have any failure today unhappy fails is we call them and then i go all maybe tomorrow me better day because will do something hard enough to push you. I got that from a sara. Blakely mentioned that time ago that her dad did that. She's the founder of spanks. Like this is really gets. We added that in Probably eight or nine years ago and is that a good practice. I have no idea. I've never validated expert. At and you know love and logic we we have been preaching the same thing over and over again and it goes something like this. I hope and pray every day that your kids blow it. Yeah we gotta be hoping and praying every day that they blow it when the price tag is small see when the consequences are still small so so a number of things can happen. I wall so they can learn cause and effect and how many of us know an adult. Who doesn't quite get that. They don't get that. Make this decision so they is going to happen so we hope and pray for those mistakes. I have to hope in parade for the wisdom and self control to let them make those mistakes coming close here audience. How many of you can admit at least yourself that it's hard to allow your kids to maybe get a bad grade on sign mentor Maybe a forget something they need and then have to do without at school or maybe at a practice or something like that. It's hard because we love. It's a indeed honestly. What i want is kids who were grow to become adults. Who if they mess up they say to themselves. Hey you know messed up. Learn something from that. That's we learn. I'm laughing because this morning myself. I can't find white socks. And he has a school uniform and a mike sounds like a problem. Teddy i'm gonna have to wear mismatched socks today. Maybe you should do the laundry. I don't know not my problem. Then he when you woke up mom near the white sox where he you said something so important date you really hit on the head. Whose problem is it. I mean to ask in all relationships whose problem is this and we gotta be able to offload problems onto the shoulders of the people who really need on them and we do it with love but We do our friends. Our family no favor when we're solving all their problems for them. This is something that all parents do when our kids feel pain. We feel their pain out. Because we're connected because of mirror neurons because gee it's almost like mother. Nature wired us that way so that we would protect our young instead of selling them when they got irritating and so we're we're innately wired to feel their pain and we feel when they suffer greatly from the things so before we think about it. We're going to enter intervene and help them do whatever the thing is that they really could have done themselves. How does a parent learn to not do that. It will i. I believe so much of it is immersing ourselves in this paradigm. And i'm i'm biased. But the love and logic paradigm is a great paradigm because every story you here in the materials. The books the audios the courses that we have every story every example every part of it reinforces this paradigm shift and dave. I really think it is a huge paradigm. Shift that That mistakes are great. Okay we're gonna. We're gonna rescue if the mistakes are too big right life and death. We're gonna jump in of course and say marquez. But immersing ourselves in those in that language and it reminds me of a mom who is she. She was driving around the car and little kid in the backseat about three years. Old in the car seat and mom drives past the exit. She's supposed to take and she's kind of beaten up on her. Selling all lied. I drive pass that exit you know. And here's a little girl in the backseat on the said. Mommy hudson okay. You're learning on his thinking. Yes yes that's where we want to be so it really does require that immersion that repetition and you know the reason that little kid new love and logic somewhat better than her mother did was because everywhere they went in the car. Mom had a plan on the on the stereo and the is not conspiracy or something that we're trying to do kinda sneaky you know Against our kids at something that the whole family can learn. What's age when kids. I pick this up all my goodness. I saw my kids in terms of learning the basic skills. I've seen Kids learn starting at about age ten months and share a little story with you about bad love and logic by the way is really big on loving actions i mean. How many times do we run into parents. Friends relatives neighbors coworkers. Never ourselves right but the other parents who talk a lot but they never take any action for crying out loud if you keep doing that such and such but there's never any action and the kids just tune them out right So love the logic is more about words loving actions and it can start very early. And i remember my son cody. He a ten months of agent. He's crawling across the carpet towards something. He's not supposed to have touch and the were at the grandparents house. And so i i liked teach parents as signal with little kids up. Oh the little oh. Sing it up. Oh see it's hardy l. when you're singing oh and then walk over and just pick them up and stick him in your lap with their their face facing away from you and let them have a little fit. It's okay if they're upset. And we put him down and he. He crawled over about three or four more times in wages. Repeat it up. Oh right back in the lab and we got home and he was heading off to something that he shouldn't have. And i said to him oh and he just laid down the middle of the floor and kinda pounded on the carpet. Because in his mind he had this limit was getting ingrained in see when we set limits. Kids learn self limits. It they gotta have him from outside. I otherwise they'll never develop them from the outside or from the inside out emmy self-control so import so you can start even before the year old with just a little thing like that. So let's say that what he's going to is painful but not deadly or maiming. And you said would you let him keep going. Okay so here. Here's the he's crawling very gradually okay and He's going to touch something. That is really going to hurt. Maybe it's really hot but it's not gonna cause any damage to me man. It's gonna hurt and so a loving logic parent at the very most. Might say oh. I'm not sure i do that. That might hurt and then after. They say that they go to prayer. Please let him touch. That's kind of dark but it's also perfect lease. Let him touch it in. Please please give me the strength to allow at the happen and of course parents. I think we're all on the same page here. Nothing that's going to have serious consequences for the kids a serious damage but really painful. And i know awful lot of kids who've done that and well dave. How many additional times did those kids do that after that experience. What do you think you know they. They're still going to do it. At at least as far as i can tell we'd put those little foam things up on the dangerous edges when our kids were really young if there was one exposed edge in room they have radar. They'll find it and they'll just bring their head on it. I swear that if you did a statistical analysis kids look for those things well and even though gravity is one of the best teachers ever for young kids and they fall down the things they keep doing it. It seems like the ten thousand repetition thing and how to not lose. Your mind is apparent as part of this. 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This is a quick easy in good-looking way to have a standing desk. That's h. a. r. m. o. n. i. desk dot com use code. Dave twenty wall so much of it is is because they're little and their brains aren't fully developed. I mean that's the truth and so it's good to take a lot of repetition but the more real experiences they have that are saying the better so let. Let's let's talk about that. We look around our house in a we childproof the things that are going to cause the real damage. We don't hesitate to do that but we leave enough temptations out there so that kids can actually learn. They need to learn the laws of physics. Kids can learn the laws of physics. Gravity kinetic energy loss city effects of kinetic energy when they suddenly come to a quick stop. They can learn all that stuff by the time. They're two years of age if we stand out of the way and when they do it we model a sense of confidence. See how do you model confidence. Well two different types of parents. Let's look at them. Kinda funda look at two different types of parents dropping a kid off at daycare. This is that for example as exciting place to hang out. I love watching kids being dropped off at daycare. I i don't like police looking at me. Strangely so i stopped the we have one parent driving up and the kid is doing what kids do want to be with you mummy. I miss you so much. You want to stay. You don't wanna go and the parents feel and horrible so the parents saying you can have so much fun. You're gonna have snack. And i hear you play a lot of gains and i did background checks on your teachers and there okay and you're going to have such a great day and you can also been out now honey. You're gonna helpful and that's one carat okay. The second pair get does the same thing. This parent feels equally guilty but the parent knows that kids need great airline pilots. I mean i don't wanna get on a triple seven and have the pilot like on the announcement saying you know. I'm kind of freaking out up here. Man there's a lot of buttons and it's relief wealthy. I don't want that kinda pilot right then so this parent when the kids has hope they don't wanna go. They say something like this. Have a great day sweetie and then they laid tracks out of that parking lot do not exceed the speed limit but they get to that speed limit pretty quick and if a kid who won't get out of the car you might want to call ahead and say hey i have a kid. And by the way she's choosing to go to school in her pajamas this morning. The i told her we can either go with your clothes on your body or your clothes in a bag and we're leaving precisely when my timer goes off on my phone and here's a i'm going to pull up. She's going to have pajamas on. I'm going to have a bag with clothes. And please help me prior her gently yet forcefully out of the car and i'm going to leave quickly now whenever i stand in front of early childhood educators and ask them which kid was the happiest during the day. It was always the kid that the parents said goodbye love yet or a few words right out of the parking lot. And you know we're talking not just about little kids day we're also talking about teenagers right into and they. They need the same kind of response from us where we're compassionate but we model strength. And can i tell you story about that. These and by the way. We're not on my outline. Are you okay with that doesn't outline. Jeez well i felt obligated. Okay because you know you're a guy and it's a conversation there's only a few hundred thousand people listening no pressure i loved that i'm going off outline okay and this is the true story. See i i grew up in a in a ranching community and ranching communities all the dogs were aborted collies. Blue healers dogs ran after things. They chased everything they heard. Everything including cars and my dad was of the variety that believe kids needed character-building experiences. Now what let's character building. Experience is doing something hard that you don't want to do but it's good and then afterwards you say to yourself i'm strong i'm capable anna. Did something good so lead. Engineer all these character-building experiences for me one of which was playing my baritone. At all the different places like elks lodges in the small towns and and The rotary clubs in all those. Vfw's so i go and play those little recitals and well got my baritone in the car. And there's buster now busters run an after a saab sobs coming down the road and buster knows that anything that looks as strange as a saab has got to be evil so he tears off after this thing he's going to hurt backward belongs and he gets hit by this car grad from and he manages stumble himself up the driveway. And i still remember neil over him and pet him and my dad ran out and buster died right there. It was a horrible thing in my dad. Loved that dog to a love me and my dad cry just a little bit. This is kind of a silent and he said son. I'm so sorry that happened. And i remember how strong his arms were when he hugged me. And he said no much. You love buster. But you know son. It's time to go as a will where he says. Well we promise that you were going to play a solo over there at the elks lodge. And i said i can't do it. My dog died and he said son when we get back. We're gonna we're gonna take care of them but another strong enough to handle this and I i didn't know how to feel about that as a kid. But i rode with him and i and i played that solo and i remember seeing him looking at me. Just tell prodi was of me and we got home and we cried together and we Lead put bustard arrest in a in a good way. And that's stuck with me and never once did i think my dad was me and her uncaring. But he taught me that we can. We can get through tough times times it that almost seem unbearable and we can get through tough times when we're also focusing on serving other people and not just ourselves and so you know in in my outline that the put down here. There were three things. And i'll just mention them real quick The first is if we wanna rebuild. Our families raise really strong resilient capable kids who has got to be relationship the kids have got gotta look at us and think my mom my dad. They're strong and they're also firm. Okay in the second piece of it. Is that kids need limits. They need to know that we love him enough to give him the boundaries and we can talk more about how to do all these things a little overview for you but my dad had set a limit with me there. We're going at your dad's a recognized expert anna in building disciplined with kids. And all that so you were raised by parenting experts And all of that. And that's a pretty powerful example where you're saying okay integrity in your word. You're going to do what you said you were going to do. And bad things happened and you can still deal with it. I think some listeners. Hearing that are going your dad was kind of cruel could have just given you a break. But you're a grown adult now with your kids and you look back on that and you look back on. That is it was the right call. Yeah it was definitely the right call and it had to do with how he did it. So what did he do right. what did he do. Because if you're looking at new biohacking things you can use. That will allow you to see what's happening in your body and then make changes one of the biggest things out. There is tracking your glucose about four years ago. I started tracking my blood. Sugar using a continuous glucose monitor which was very hard to get and in this last year. I've been blessed to have one of the access levels health monitors which is a continuous glucose. Monitor you stick on the back of your arm. It sits there kind of innocuously for two weeks and tells you anytime you want to know. How much energy's actually in your blood. And then i could actually see oh. This meal works really well or this meal after dark doesn't work very well so i feel like i've been armed and motivated in a way. That for me is really hard to do. So i would recommend you check out levels health. It's backed by world class. Researchers including friends who've been on bulletproof radio like dom douglas dino. Dr promoter engineers from spacex and google levels has almost one hundred thousand people on a weightless for their closed beta program. And because you listen to bulletproof radio you can skip the line and get to the top of the list when he joined levels today. Good a level dot link slash dave to sign up. That's levels dot link slash dave even if you only use it every other couple of weeks. It's a game changer. So what did he do right. What did he do right well. First of all all the things that he did way before muster see while madurai. Dad did right is he. Was there for me a lot. And he spent a lot of time with me. Not doing anything purposeful believed and still does and by the way he lives next door to me. Were were good friends to this very day. He believes that being with people is being present is more important than doing stuff we can have both but how many times day do we get pulled into this idea that we gotta be accomplishing something. All the time or we have to be doing some sort of structured activity. We gotta be entertaining the kids. You know what the kids want. They want us to be there with him and Daniel lehman his so great and and really models this. I think in spectacular fashion. It talks about special time and that is where we just hang out with the kid and there's no should or could 's or or maybes or wise. There's just us hanging out next to the kid not saying much at all so he did a lot of that. He did a lot of empathy with me. And that's a big piece. A love and logic in the empathy sounds like this. I can't imagine a hard. This must be for you and you just forgot to do your chores right in. We talked about those before you had your little list and and now you're asking me to drive you someplace you really want to. Whoever that's rough. Well perhaps next time. When i see those things get See so the empathy is not you poor thing. don't worry about it. there's no accountability. The empathy is wow. I really care about you. I'm feeling for you. But you know what. I believe that you're strong enough to handle what life serves up for. You and i believe that you're strong enough to handle the poor decisions that you make and those consequences that come as a result so i have to say those two things were so powerful in my life. I growing up with him. Up to that point and i grew up again in this family where the show must go on and as i forward as they get older and again i can certainly see how some people would hear that story. And just just be heartbroken. It's a heartbreaking story. I mean my dog is like right right next to me. Now and i love her and i was Is devastated But are those things gonna happen in our children's lives and one of the things. That when i when i talked to sony people all over the world and so many people who've lived many many decades really wise people. What they'll say is that they're really concerned about the number of people who can't really handle adversity jeff and do we need a trigger warning for this. Part of the conversation probably. Yeah and you know there is great. Hope i mean lets you. Were talking about some really deep stuff. Hartwick in you know why like to talk about deep stuff. Because i want my life to be meaningful and forego have kids who go out there and like they make it through the hard stuff and so much of the time. I'll share another little story with This listeners often tell me they like stories and so well this lady says today my son lost. He lost two and a half coats every school year. My kids asked me insane two and a half coats and she is one of them faster. Something anyway she says that. I took the level logic course and the love and logic course basically taught me to stand beside my kids rather than be cute between them and the world is standing beside them. Means that you know if something's really dangerous or will be traumatic. I step in and protect them. I mean i'm like a mother bear. You know i'll do that if my kids are in danger but much of the time i kind of step back and allow them to handle life and learn from it so he comes home one day and he says mom. Somebody stole my coat. you know. They're always stolen there never. It's so she practices are empathy. She says honey. Aw that's rough you know yeah. My teacher doesn't even care all. That's gotta be rough. What do you think you're gonna do all lock in that question listeners. What do you think you're gonna do when somebody comes to you with the problem. What do you think you're gonna do real loving well. I'm telling you when. I and you need to buy a new code. Mama's would you like to hear some ideas about how you might solve that problem. He says what she says. Well some kids decided to get all their money together and ask mom to take him to the mall and they buy a brand new code with that money and you know what the kids said closer. Expensive forget it when he runs in his room and she feels terrible. Isn't it interesting that she's doing the right thing. In my opinion right build them strong kid but she feels horrible. I wouldn't feel horrible about that. One they don't lose your next coat. Does the monster of apparent you earn that your allowance. It easier for you dave. Anyway he comes back out and now he's talking like this now. Any of you ever hear your kid talk like this and what isn't it. I can't hear you. Will you take me down to the thrift shop. So i can buy code. And she said well. Are you sure you wanna do that. I mean some kids just wear a lot of shirts for the rest of the year outward michigan car with him and drives him down. The thrift story buys this old coat. Okay himself and in they're riding home and he now showing everybody this coat and is pretty tattered looking and by the way they just they happen to be a family that has some money you know and so people are like a lab. You're having problems with your business. Things like that and and mom said that coat. That will worn out coat that he bought for three dollars gift to him. Then all of the expensive things we him for holidays and so the point here Friends is that you know. We often talk about adversity as being like a really hard thing which it is okay. But there's a flip side of it. How does it feel when you see yourself working through it and you get to the other side. We steal that from people. Don't we we steal the struggle and then as a result we also steal the tremendous sense of confidence and joy that they can have knowing. Hey i got. I got what it takes. I can live this life. I can be honorable and in solve the problems i face. That's resiliency for you. What a what. A great story. And what a great lesson that is for parents and for kids. One of the things that i've found is my kids. Enter their preteen and teen years. I in its well-documented. It kids listened less and less to you and more and more to their peers and some of their peers have been taught to be victims and as soon as something bad happens when they're entitled to a whole bunch of stuff You know the whole victim culture And i would just say high anxiety. High fear peers as a parent. Would you do when your kids start hanging out with a bunch of who don't have any resilience and start picking that style. Well we're working through that right with this is this is really personally great. Dis- discussion so first of all the basic goal is for them to work it out not for us to work it out. We're going to facilitate them working at it out rather than us working it out see because if we work it out. Is it really part of there being no in so that. That's one basic principle. That i that i have to say is is very important. And so there's a lot of times where they'll be all this drama you know associated with hanging out with the kids and then our kids will come home or after they visit with a kid on the on instagram. Or whatever they are having trauma moment the hysteria and that and i think it's very important for us to set a limit with them. That sounds something like this. You know you're you're more than welcome to hang out with me and your mall right here in this room. As long as we're being treated with great respect and we're not having to hear her about negative things. So i sure hope you can stay because we love the this is this is now dramas though drama zone for kids is really cool. I'm like go garlic zone and we have to come across kind of like that because sometimes okay. Here's the deal. I'll admit it my mirror. Neurons are two active sometime. So the kid gets all this drama hysteria. And then i get hysterical about their hysteria. Why why do you want out with kids like that. Oh my goodness you know just modeling. What i don't want so i want to be real matter of fact but loving. Hey i hang out with kid. I do extra things for kids win. I know it's going to be pleasant for me. And it's just not pleasant when i just keep hearing this and that about so and so on this about that and all of the anxiety and worry just not fun for me. So that's part of the message in in a big part of love logic. Is this take really great. Care of yourself in loving ways. I mean when i was a kid i love those movies. They were the old westerns. And some guys horse didn't make or whatever stuck in arizona. Desert crawling along lauder water. You know and and that's like many of our kids now in a desert crawling begging for somebody to give them the leadership that that life sustaining water that they need in order to be successful and i don't know how to give somebody life sustaining water. If my bucket is totally empty the self care and modeling self care and you know. What do we want our kids to be able to kind of learn how to distance themselves from unhealthy peers. Of course we do. Do we want them to know how to take care of themselves around unhealthy peers. Absolutely and how. Well does it work if we're doormat for teaching them to be one. Yep yeah in my son mark Now he's twenty four and when he was little we were. We're constantly practicing we call them. Enforceable statements love and logic does and essentially where we describe what orbited rather than. Tell the kid what to do You feel free to keep the toys that you pick up. A dinner served until such and such a time. And i allow teenagers. Who drive my car. When i don't have to worry about when they get home or were they are. Oh listen when your voices calm like mine things like that and and so one of the things. One of the rules we had is. Oh you get to play with us in hang out with us when you're being sweet to us okay. Well he had a friend over hello played in his four in there in his bedroom. And i sneak around the corner. Because i just love to watch a little kids play you know. And they don't know in adults watching time little matchbox cars on the floor before long. The the friend is taken my son's matchbox cars and smashing them against the baseboard. And here's a little mark lamar. He's got a baseball cap on. He takes it off. He puts all the matchbox cars in his baseball cap. He puts it back on his head. Turns to this little kid and he says i play with kids who are nice to my stuff just walked out of the room pat. You learn that by how say it over and over again and so so much about how kids handle. Peer influences is determined by how well we take care of ourselves. Now there's something else. You mentioned something about problems. Whose problem is it. You know when i saw my kids problems as a habitual response all the time you know what i'm doing. I'm renting them life and teaching helplessness. Yeah i'm renting them a life. It's not really their life that they have. It's just it's a rental in how the people treat rentals with not as much seriousness or care rental lie for real life. I mean when a kid is in a position and somebody says hey. Let's the do this crack. Let's go down town and hang out. Let's break into the store. What do i want going on my kids head rental life that i can just trade and get another one or real life and i want the kid. No it's it's a real life and that's when we have to have some some very brief but loving but serious conversations and usually have those in the car driving at runaway thriving along son archie fortunate to have sold for a friend. Would you mean. I'm just as is thinking how fortunate you are to have so so as a friend because you're gonna have so much practice learning how to keep yourself out of trouble. I just think that's just fantastic. Thank you know. Some of these other kids always make good decisions. You don't teach you anything about lot and then you shut up. Well what did you mean by that. All just never mind. I don't want to be one of those lecturing. Parents see you throw something out and then let percolate. It's like a a great farmer. Plant the seed walkaway. Great farmer knows. I plant a seed the not the one who makes girl and Another little conversation son daughter. Do you think that your life's gonna be gratifying enjoy full or not so gratifying in Enjoy full if you hang around with people who treat you like a doormat. You know you just you just try. You're using psychology on me. Well i was just curious about that and then you shut your little seed not a huge bag. Ases just one little seat. Lots of little seeds son. I know that that some of your friends really liked to drink in them. The drive around after they've been drinking and Whose life is really gonna be affected if that ends poorly love you dearly but that's it while son By the way if you're the one who's driving. I wanna make you a promise in that. That is that. I promise you is my solemn oath to you that If we were ever to need your mom and i legal assistance because of the dui we would never expect you to pay the cost and take care of brilliant parenting right. It's a ninja move. It helps when you're like me. Honestly we don't drink and drive so that yeah it's It's i call it. A dynamic equilibrium equilibrium. Parenting is a dynamic equilibrium. You know we're always thinking okay. How can i be really loving and make sure that my kids are well taken care of and rescue them when they need to be rescued but then on the other side of the line is how do i allow them to have enough struggles in life have enough accountability so that they are strong and and and strong people with great character right and as the years have gone by. I've realized that it's it's not a system. It's not something like a steps you can follow right. It's a process of keeping our eye on that on that line and doing the very best we can and and using the best judgment we had in that situation given the dynamics of the situation. And if we are working on that equillibrium chances are. We're gonna make mistakes but overall we're going to be real successful all right. I wanna talk about bullying. Oh so many entrepreneurs who come through my My forty years in neurofeedback program. This is one where you can go deep. And you can you can edit emotional patterns so you have to talk about them so you get this beacons lighted and it's really convert people to go. Oh my god. I just realized. I've driven to be this unhappy but very successful moore because i was bullied. How do parents respond most effectively. When there's bullying at school well the backdrop. The context is always the most important piece in the backdrop. The context is the kid has no doubt in their mind that they are loved because their loved them. It's unconditional you don't have to earn it. You can't lose it. you're just loved. What a gift that is when we can have that. And that's that's part of the context. The other part of the context is that the kid has had a lot of experiences. We causing effect in seeing that they are capable of making decisions capable of handling hardships. So i'm truly loved unconditionally. I don't have to prove anything to anybody. I am loved k. Secondly on strong. I'm capable of acute has has those two basic belief systems. They're they're a little easier to work with Over bully so. I would say the first step if they're steps is you listen the truly listening and reflecting feelings. You're never gonna go wrong so what you're telling me My daughter is that there's girls at anytime you go and sit down at the lunch table. And they just move and then they roll their eyes they do that. That that scott That's gotta hurt. Unbelievable i mean telling you know how. How often is this happening. So i'm having a conversation and all undoing is getting at feelings trying to understand. I'm not trying to solve the problem. See too often jump in problem solving mode before we listen. And then things go poorly. Kinda like one spouse has a bad day you know and we want to be good listeners and empathetic and no information shared what so ever during that first stage hand on the shoulder. That kid just love. Yeah yeah. I'm so sad that you're having to go through this stuff and then i kinda start moving into a little more directive role. Would you like to hear some thoughts are absolutely you know okay. 'cause the kids interested in hearing it because i've spent time listening so you're getting them. You're soliciting them to ask for advice. So so but i'm gonna ask permission first so sunday. Would you like to hear some ideas about how to handle kids like that. I mean what do you think. We'll i guess the okay. Yeah 'cause i don't. I don't wanna be bossier anything but i know you really heard Now some kids. Oh hughes that language some kids are some people decide to well. Some people decide to trick that kid in when the kid is hassling them they say to themselves the more upset i get the more unhealthy power that person has and they they kind of do a good job of acting like a really good actor does and then they just have something just kind of relaxed they say to the kid so lee practice that if you're interested we'll that's weird dad what what do you mean well some kids just it kind of put on a cool logger relaxed look and they don't have a lot of contact with the bully but the bullies jus you're just such as she you know and and the kid might say something like really wondering about that thank you you know and then they just wander over and stand next to an adult or some kids they know will be kind to then kinda watch out for but they don't say anything to that other that that bully right then and there might talk to a teacher later on but they just kind of wander over and hang out by somebody's gonna take good care of them so how do you think that might work moon is gonna weird you know well it might be weird and do you think it's possible that it might not work all the time just like everything else i always get kids prepared for the fact that sometimes things won't work what happens then yeah so what do you think you might do if it doesn't work well depending on the bully some kids decide and again this is where judgment really asked to come in some kids decide to look at that bali and just say something like this that's bullying and that needs to stop and they turn away and they walk somewhere where they will give beat up okay some kids only understand that type of approach now this is a process the notice what i'm trying to do here most of the time i am most of the time i am going for giving the kid the skills they need in order to handle not just this bully but all the other ball as they will encounter for the rest of their lives because if they run a business they'll run into bullies if they work in a business they'll run into bullies if they live life they will run into bullies. It's very true. Who had so interesting is when kids have that confidence of knowing that they can handle bullies. They don't get bullied as much. It just kinda uses album. It's kind of like. Hey i can handle you. You know i can have a life now. There are when apparent may need to say something like this now. Some kids decide that they really are going to need to get some extra help from people at the school and they're gonna ask their parents to go to the school with them and they're going to talk to the principal With their parents there now notice who's still involved in solving the problem. The kid now. I'd probably call the principal ahead of time. And so you got the situation. I'd like to bring my son in and have him talk directly to you. Because i want him to be empowered to know that he can handle himself and so i just want you to know why i probably going to be fairly silent. There's there's method to the madness here. Okay and then. If i need to all throw some things and But very important for the kid not to be sitting back feed up in the area. Just got a glazed over while. I'm solving the problem. And so there are times where we have to go to that level and i have actually seen times where you know parents of had to go and and this is the last resort of course but take some legal action or whatever is required to resolve the issue but so much of this can be handled with the kid just learning some very simple connoisseur silly strategies of showing for showing the bully bothered so much. I love that. Yeah i kid a share with you one little fund story. The cute is always hassling him about his mall. Your mom this. Your momma does that so he goes to this kid. The next the kid says it in he says you have been thinking about that. And i've tried to get her to stop doing that stuff but she just won't listen to me. Only actually after the end of the story there so anyway to share that with those are the positive endings. There's also the bully who keeps hitting you whenever there's not a teacher around kenneth situation. Yeah yeah that's when we need to believe our kids and and if we have to make a change to a different school or different situation it's worth at because it's that destructive. I i was in that situation with one of the kids a while ago and finally i said right. Here's the deal if you can't get away and there's no teacher than what you do. Is you. hit him really hard. And then they'll stop hitting you and this is actually how school has worked through all of human history. is how it is Actually i'm this is my daughter and she says but it will probably my hand. I said yeah. It'll hurt their face more. And you only have to do it once right and it's not like this kid hasn't hit you dozens of times and finally i said. Look if you have to do it to get in trouble. I said yeah but if you'll get a day off school and i'll buy you ice cream. Okay you're allowed to protect yourself if you need to protect yourself and your teacher isn't doing your job. Well i don't know if that was the right. The right parenting answer. The teachers who didn't like him and i told the teacher about it. It falls into the category. A fairly solid advice that is politically incorrect. But but one of the things that we see is that the bullies the play by a different set of rules like real real bullies aggressive people sociopathic people play by a different set of rules and I had one in my life when i was thirteen years of age. I was a pretty passive kid but he We it. I had a three day in school suspension as a result of solving that problem. All put it that way and it was one of the best decisions i had ever made in my life so all this leave it at that. Yes it it's it's sad because sometimes we're ten eleven twelve year olds. Neither is the police on campus and they're over enforcing sometimes a scuffle happens and i. I think that's missing from school. I wish i hadn't been bullied I'm also glad that when. I was bullied and there was no teacher around that i protected myself because otherwise i think i would have grown up to be a victim and that's what i wanted most for my kids. I don't care if you missed some school or not but you'll learn that it's okay to protect yourself and that's what i told the teacher you know when my daughter is often college. There's an aggressive person who won't stop. It's up to you to stop them if you can't get help right and i feel like that's missing from a lot of our schooling but don't get bullied always many tone and the issue is. We already have enough victims shots. It's like we don't need anymore. And so yeah i i. I love the idea of raising kids who understand that Of course we wanna handle things with great honor respect towards other people. Great love but There are times where we have to get parade a strong to make a point. Yeah sometimes you do. And and let's let's talk about that in the context of the pandemic say parenting the pandemic. I've seen people lots of followers. There are kids who are getting bullied forgetting the vaccine and their kids who are getting bullied for not getting vaccine or four wearing a mask or not wearing a mask this weird tribal polarized behavior. Yeah people trying to force other people to do whatever makes them feel safe regardless of science. You know it's not a logic. It's an emotional discussion. How do kids handle that. And how do parents help. Kids handle the weird social pressures around illogical behaviors. I think that as parents we are we. Welcome discussion about it of course in our house. So we're discussing things and we're discussing the concept of freedom. Freedom is precious. The problem is is that freedom. Now here i go okay. Warning warning right freedom is expensive. Freedom comes at a risk and freedom terrifies so many people that when they see other people Enjoying freedoms even freedoms don't hurt anybody. It's threatening to them. Kai freedom is a threatening thing for a whole lot of people and it really in our home and in the love and logic philosophy. You know i'm all about you. Know patrick henry give me liberty or give me death in our family. We're gonna live free. We are not going to Be abusive or hassle people who are exercising their freedoms. That are not impinging on ours. We are going to respect those. We may not agree but This is just what the value is in the household. And so what can you say so. I'm a real big fan of okay. Let's talk about what you can say to somebody. If they hassle you about well how come you're vaccinated or how come you're not vaccinated acceded or how come you have a blue mask instead of a purple water. How come you only have three instead of four on at the time. It's like all this stuff. Okay how am. I going to respond in a way where i do. My best to maintain the dignity of both people involved. We're hoping dignity. How come you're hell. Can you not wearing a mask it because it's my personal decision as my freedom and because we're not being required to now very very well put. I've seen a lot of frustration for my kids. And they'll say danny last week. It was saved for me to have recess without a mask on and this week. It's not but the government rules. Say that i don't have to wear a mask but the school says that i do and they didn't make me wear a mask when i was standing with suzy but i had to wear the mask when i was sitting in my first class. Not my second mask and they look at me with like with pain and they say it doesn't make any sense. It isn't doing anything we're not doing anything consistently what's a good parenting answer to that. Because i've been struggling with that. Well i think you handled it very well. It doesn't make sense one of the things that will make you crazy is. Here's here's how to make yourself crazy or make somebody else crazy. Just in case. You wanna know how to do that you you you try to make sense out of something that doesn't and you've over it. I gotta figure out how this makes sense. Okay the truth of it is is it. don't make no sense it. Don't make no says okay. And the way i explained it to my son is that you know. There's a lot of people that are truly trying to help in in their hearts they're they're trying to do the right thing. They have all different perspectives on this. Most people honestly most people are just trying to live their lives. They're trying to love their kids or trying to love their family. They're trying to make a living. They just want to get through the day with some joy in their hearts. And and and that's that's all it's about in in some of those people were down some vaccine his own but they're just good people and they're trying to make the best decision they can given the fact that none of us know anything right okay. And and but Let's let's not pretend that that this makes any saps critique. What i did is apparent here. Tell me when it could have done better with this work as in kids. Sometimes you wear a mask so the muggles feels safe and you know very well that it doesn't do anything at all but you're just doing it because it's less work and it makes other people feel safe and there's other times where you are allowed to choose not to do it but you get the consequences of choosing not to do it which can be social shaming or someone not letting under the store or someone yelling at you or you know whatever. The deal is And and you get to pick right. And i'll support you either way. Is that a parenting win. Or the muggles thing was judging in shaming and all that i i don't wanna be jaji and shaming with you because you know when i i figure when i get my act together completely dental really. I mean totally flawless. Then i'll be in a good place to them. So but with that said i would. Probably my delivery would be slightly different but not that. I my response. Let let me see if i can put put myself right in the mood there. I'd say you know let's say some people truly are scared and some people are justa. They don't have any choice because they work someplace in it's required or whatever and sometimes we just show people love by doing things that make their lives easier. You know and it's kind of a little sacrifice we make but we don't have to do it a lot you know. Fortunately is becoming less and less in. I have to say i. I do that as well. It's been my stance on it if somebody's uncomfortable and you know i'll all do such inside. She noticed to kind of help them feel more comfortable. Because i i don't wanna be mean okay. But the when i in a situation where i get to make my own choice then i get to make my own choice and So that's pretty similar. I think to what what you said. Dave yeah everybody's going to have a different take on it I like we said there at sometimes you choose to wear it out of love because the other person's afraid or they're required to. You're just doing it to be nice even though it's done that dichotomy is the hard part for teenagers right. Yeah and the problem. The great thing about being a teenager is that suddenly your brain develops to a certain extent and you realize that things don't make sense. It's like when you're little. You know everything makes everything is right with the world you know and then all sudden your brain shifts and you're like my parents have stupid rules like you know it's like my mom. Bless her heart. I mean she you know we couldn't have sodas in the car okay because Last bottles in you know we couldn't have lollipops in the car because a jam down our throat but we could ride in the back of the pickup truck down the highway with like a chainsaw. Loosen their sliding back and forth and when you're a teenager you're like what this is. Nuts and with teenagers is so much of it is listening and not actually judging and then asking if they'd like your thoughts to i think such a such an inside you're gonna get believe this get said that. Tell me more about that. Why do you think it would be. Okay why do you think it's okay for people to do any drugs they wanna do. You know let's say the kid says something like that we all right just to show us what are you. What do you think the pros are that the good part of it and they'll share stuff that will just you know you're listening trying to keep a straight a. And then just gone hulls. I'll tell ya a great. You see an economist with bad things about no. It's all good and that's when. Unc would you be interested in my thoughts as long as i. Don't judge you or tell you what to do. And then it's like you now. I suppose that at some point. I may believe some of those things and then i got to see a lot of people that i love dearly. start to experiment with with drugs and saw some lose their lives and others lose their wives and others lose their kids and everything in between and kind of change my thoughts on it but great thing about it is you have a powerful mind inside of that skull of yours. That's the great and then you get close it up and you know the interesting piece about this is that they come back around as long as you're not fighting with them about it nine times out of ten if you're not find the power struggle they come back around you know and then you're like twenty five or whatever and they're saying things like well really think it's inappropriate that people. They legalized all these like what what happened a miracle. No it was great bonding and you didn't ruin the relationship by fighting with the teenager when they were pushing buttons. Wow it's a. It's a complex path. And i love the way your sharing. This action will advice. Because i'm always replaying. The day is conversation. I wonder what else you could have done. But honestly the the set of of options to pull from when you're doing it is relatively limited. Don't really know where to go to get info as apparent. We talked to other parents and all this. I appreciate what you've been sharing on the show and you have all of this put together. Love and logic dot com is for this and it. It's pretty neat. And the the frameworks. You have I went through them after. Dr ayman recommended it. And just this whole idea that there's only five things you have to do own a recap that sort of the five non negotiable core principles. Can you walk people through those. There's five core principles. They're pretty broad. Okay but they really do. Nail it down and and The first one is that. Want to handle the kid with mutual dignity so my dignity is intact and the kids dignities intact and the biggest issue. There is limits. Can't be any dignity in the home. If there are limits another piece of it is shared thanking. You heard a lot of that today where we're asking to get. What do you think you're going to do to solve this problem. See i should never be consistently thinking harder about my kids problems and they are another piece of it is shared control. That's the third one shared control. So i wanna give away the control. That i don't have or need you know you wanna be home by tan or ten thirty decide. Hey you you wanna have the carrots or celery. This little choices artem with that stuff. Lots of control people love control away the more you have the moria hoard the less you and so then we have empathy sincere empathy. Then oh that. That's what sends the message that i'm on your side kid and when i am on your side kid. The hard part for the kid is that they have to think about their own poor decision rather than blaming us for what they did. And you know these these four things all boil down into relationship so number five is relationship. It is How are we gonna connect with this kid where the kid actually puts our values inside their heart. And i asked my. My mom struggled with bipolar depression. She struggled will all sorts of trauma in pain in anxiety. She really struggled with parenting. She no one thing she consistently did as she didn't give up she just didn't give up she consistently sent. This message does kids. You're the apple of my eye. That's simple you're the apple pie and make decisions. You'll need to get yourself out of your messages kind of thing. But she struggled a lot and she has such a profound impact on me and she passed away a few years back that she's like i said she's always with me just hanging out there and now she's the strong who doesn't have that that terrible illness or the eagles now our voices in my head saying things like you can do this in doing the right thing for people is the right thing to do and when you mess up that's okay you just get back on that horse and you'll be okay and here. We have a person who really struggled with life with such a big impact. I think that that gives all of us a lot of hope. I like that a lot when when people struggle and overcome and still do their best and ended up being Being good parents despite whatever got in the way as one of the hardest things you can do as human being. because it's one of the jobs that never stops. You don't get to take a break when you want to So my full respect to people who who parent and do their best and my voice back to people who say you know. I decided i didn't want to do that. Because a lot of work and i had other priorities i get guys. It's all good way. that's right. that's right well. Thank you Charles fayette and things for love and logic and also thinks things daniel. And i amen for bringing to my attention because I hadn't heard about your work but it's it's a logical useful framework and it's got a lot of really cool. Parenting ninja moves in. It's i'm learning from it. And i thought a lot of our guests would enjoy that. Don't know what percentage of people have kids who listen but it's a meaningful percentage. I would imagine two guys hope you enjoyed it and if you listened and you didn't have kids just think what your parents did you and what it installed in you and next time you talk to a little kid even if it's not yours maybe there's something in here for you again. It's love and logic dot com. Yeah thank you so much. Such a joy and i'm so thankful that i didn't have to follow my line. That was fun. 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151: Dave Asprey | Biohacking the Way to a Bulletproof Life

The Jordan Harbinger Show

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151: Dave Asprey | Biohacking the Way to a Bulletproof Life

"Welcome to the show. I'm Jordan harbinger. As always I'm here with my producer Jason to Filipo, my friend. Dave Asprey is one of the guys that essentially pioneered the biohacking industry. I in fact, I don't even think we really talked much about biohacking before he came on the scene. He spent over a million dollars and twenty years, it's probably mill- millions at this point and twenty years biohacking, and he scaled that to a nine figure business over the past few years, which has just been incredible to watch. Everyone's heard of bulletproof coffee, I've gone to a bunch of different countries Australia. They got bulletproof coffee. It's just everywhere. And today we're talking about brain kryptonite. This is the focus of his new book. It's called headstrong by brain kryptonite. I mean, we're talking about things like increasing energy in your brain. Why this is important, and we focus on getting rid of brain fog and being able to stay focused for a longer period of time. I found those skills particularly useful here. I don't do health related episodes, y'all know that especially because I'm no. Expert in this area. But I wanted to help get the word out about Dave's work because I think we can all use a bit of a boost in the brain department, especially and if you wanna know how I managed to create this network for myself of incredible guests, great friends. Well, I do this deliberately it created. A course that is free for you about how to start that process. That's over at Jordan, harbinger dot com slash level one. All right. Here's Dave Asprey. Dave, tell me your backstory because you're one of the guys that essentially pioneered the biohacking movement unless I just don't know about everything that came before an which is possible. But I know that in the beginning on ramp was bulletproof executive on the you're not still have that brand. And then a handful of other people who were doing things that I can't even remember. And then suddenly I took a nap and woke up and bulletproof coffee was all over the world. What happened is it's been twenty years doing research in a nonprofit for anti-aging talking with all these punctual medicine people. And other experts in nutrition, and I realized there's a whole bunch of bodybuilders of here in pro athletes over here in navy seals over here in astronaut recovery. People hear neurologist, and none of them talk. And I wanted full control my of my own biology, and I said we've got a name for this. So I came up with this name biohacking, and I wrote it in my first blog post this info graphic about it. And I didn't trademark name. I said, you know, I wanted to be a community trademark bulletproof and bulletproof executives. That's my company. And it's in the biohacking field started the first biohacking conference six years ago one hundred people shop and last year, we had I think about three thousand people in a little bit under three hundred twenty eight hundred or something and we're having our next biking conference in April fifth in LA, and what happened is this year? Miriam Webster is added biohacking to the dick. Yeah. And I'm in the definition to which is really. Oh, that's so they're calling me like on whatever that was Fox News or. Something on TV like the father biohacking, which is which is really cool. I've never been a dictionary before you know, you can make the Forbes list, but you really can't really big in the dictionary is even hard. I was those kind of surreal moment. Somebody texted me. Like, did you see this? No, it's awesome. Yeah. So the ideas is you can change the environment around you an inside view to get control of your own biology. The first use of biking was in ninety two but it was more about inserting jellyfish genes into your cat. So it'll glow and things like that. So are also cool though, pretty cool to try that on yourself. I was going to like to my sister. When I was young, but didn't work it didn't work. I'll just call her with yellow markers. I was forced their fair, but she's still gloat at least for a little while. I remember when I was taking those glow sticks as a kid that you on Halloween, and I would pour them all over myself. And I'd be like, look, I'm going on my mom would freak out. Because who knows what's in those? There's no way like it's in a thick plastic shell because you don't want your kid to chew it open. Right. But I managed I haven't determined. I've bathed myself and that stuff more times than should. Yeah. Absolutely. I can imagine. I don't think that counts as backing. But it was preliminary. No, I mean, it might be it might be the opposite. And a lot of ways you also had to lose a bunch of weight and everything right? I mean, how did you originally get into this? I know it was was not because you're like, I'm still healthy even healthier. It was sort of the opposite. Yeah. I had arthritis diagnosed when I was fourteen in my knees is that genetic then no, it's probably environmental and knowing no knew it was at the time. I was obese at three hundred pounds. When I was about twenty three. And re hundred pounds. I'm for people who are watching us. Do you mind? If I ask how much you wait, wait two hundred three pounds right now. And I'm nine point six percent body fat, and I have nineteen point four pounds of fat on my body. So used to have like one hundred nineteen point four give her it's hard to know if it was guilty. It's hard to know how much that was inflammation versus fat. It's someone to weight I lost. But I'm sure that a lot of information. But I also I was forty six inch waist. I'm a thirty three inch waist now. I'm actually lower than I was as a junior in high school while which is phenomenal forty five not bad. I also I got other diseases of aging. So I'm twenty-six working in Silicon Valley six million dollars. And I was twenty six is that the company that held Google's first server? I was a co founder of the of part of that company. And we ended up starting the data center and cloud computing, business and. I started in brain fog to the point. I bought disability insurance because I wouldn't hire myself. Can remember anything? Oh, man. And you were we coating I was dealing. I was more of an architect. I ended up running program for the university of California to teach engineers how to build the internet's with like how how should it work? How must it works? I was a coat originally within a became technology architects, kinda guy probably helps to know how to remember things in. It was straight your head point. It was terrifying. Actually, and also, my emotions would just get all over the place, and then I said something's wrong. And I said I'm going to just exercise. I'm going to lose the weight. No matter what I've had a couple of knee surgeries by then. And I worked out an hour and a half a day six days a week. And after a year eighteen months of that I didn't lose. Anyway, I could Maxwell the machines. And I rose I less than all my friends, and I work out more than my friends. I'm fat with all my friends, and I thought it's a moral failing. I she less lettuce leaves or something. And what it was was the wrong stuff, and there are environmental factors that are involved. And is fired my doctor when he told me about him and see would kill me. And that maybe I should lose weight when I told them what I did. He just looked like he knew I was lying. I was clearly leaving just stuff in Snickers. Right. And is very common doctors are topped this. And I'm like, okay. No one's gonna help me. I'm just going to hack this. And fortunately, I am a computer. So I stayed up every night. And I would just read PubMed, and I would take by the way, I lost my six million dollars two years after I made it so I haven't oh silicon. Yeah. It was a great couple of years that I was just by anything I thought would help and I dug really deep I learned to electoral currents on the body and the first infrared light for the brain almost twenty years ago EEG neuro feedback, and then I started running an anti nonprofit group that let me talk to people three times my age who are reversing the symptoms. I had I was diagnosed with high risk of stroke and heart attack and prediabetes before I was thirty. Wow, you are super unhealthy rash. Are there? People in your family that are that unhealthy or. No. I mean, my mom said. The family isn't particularly there's a lot of autumn unity because you get there. You know, how did you get that unhealthy stress? What else stresses probably a part of it? But it was what environmental strips. So there's two big factors. One of them is if you're sympathetic dominant or you have a strong fight or flight response, basically if you're anxious. Yeah. And for me, we trace that back into exactly where that came from the comes from two places this common entrepreneurs the most common if you're bullied. Yeah. Okay. It's like you lined up any computer guy for that one pretty much. I mean, we've gotta mastermind talks with Jason or any of these big on from conferences, you ask around the everyone in the room was bullied. It's just how it works. And then you gotta prove something. So I had some of that. And also I was born with them Bill a cord wrapped around my neck, hell, I've I've heard of a lot of people. Yeah. And I've I actually got to work with the woman who invented for thirty years. She's around the group on the student inventive. But she she documented progress the science on pre and perinatal trauma. So I came into the world ready to kill things trying to kill me. And I never. Stopped and it also affected. My ability make connections with other people because I'm alone. Like nothing safe for and I did saw that in my early thirties. I I did a lot of personal involvement work. So that was a part of it. But the biggest part I grew up in a basement that had had a water leak, and there's toxic mold in the basement. So an additional this weird stuff auto immunity. I'd have nosebleeds every day at rashes and asthma and just all this weird stuff. And now that I've done a documentary on toxic mold energy, all the top experts and started a company helps to solve that problem and even eliminated mold in the bulletproof coffee beans, I understand exactly the biology this stuff. And so it happened to me as I got Hasha photos, which is a fired condition. A lot of entrepreneurs happening. It's so funny. I was just going to say no like this seems to be the thing that everyone is either being diagnosed with now, and it's because they did not find it before. Or it's more common. Always just a bias confirmation bias on my part. I love it that you said that though because I interviewed a ton of people on my show. Oh and wrote a book called game changers. That's just coming out and one of the rules, this these are Forty-six laws based on my interview. And just my love of Robert Green's work on you just interviewed autograph? Yeah. So a hero of mine, and this idea that what do all of these high performers do who I've had on on the show, and if some of them mutual mutual friends people who've been on on your show, but I ask them these questions in one of the things that came out of it is that I'm not going to paraphrase the logs xactly, right? Yeah. Memory because there's forty six of them. But the idea is that if you burn the candle at both ends, you don't get that back. And what happens is entrepreneurs orders, high stress people when you hit a certain emotional or work stress thing, and you don't sleep and you're flying over place, and even if you're over exercising, and especially with environmental insults like that. So my entire life go. This is Debbie. Condemn you. Once you hit that wall. And then you get a little car accident or you get a virus or some or, you know, a family member dies another stressor. It pushes you over and then autoimmune returns on so people like you meet were more likely to have our immune system start attacking body. And the first thing that gets attacked is your thyroid profit. Why is that the case? I don't know why the Thyroiditis I think we know why your immune system does that. But the deal here is is really straightforward from talking all these people in force myself through the thinking too structured in the book is that you can push me hard, and then recover, and he pushed hard and recovering. What I did. Like, just turn the volume all the way up and just leave it. There is holding slow to the floor cover and sign. Yeah. Right. I'll young. Yeah. I'll just push harder. It's it's a willpower thing. And so what you end up doing is you permanently? Put the brakes on once you start doing that all the energy that should go into repairing yourselves because king your cells, and you can undo a lot of that. And I've managed to turn off my hush mother's antibodies. But here's the deal. As a thing for high performers the best people in the world, they push really hard. And then they recover like maniacs. And they pushed hard that recover and the ones who are running from something, you know, after prove I'm good enough to run away from failure the way, I made my six million in lost my six million with that kind of a mindset. That's what breaks you. And that was a part of my issue. 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And I never quite understood that it doesn't there's nothing readily coming to me that says so I'm really stressed out there for my body should attack itself. But what's what is the process that's happening here, I realized doctor, but you know, all about I mean, your time science author at least I have a good day. You should have a good understanding. I have not written about the immune system specifically about might. Oh, Qendra which are the power plants in the cells. Mel my last book with by exactly these guys they're ancient bacteria that since the environment, and they're trying to figure out is this a stressful situation or is this not and they're doing on a cell by cell basis, and that can roll up into their interpreting stress that maybe you wouldn't think of stress, but they already got the signal before you had a chance to think about okay, and that's definitely a part of it because they're the ones that the first line responders, and we also know based on the work of a doctor named Candice per she's a researcher who's passed away. Discover the opioid receptor in our brand so very celebrated figure in science and she went from this hardcore western rationalist approach to more of a very balanced eastern western approach, and she actually showed in her work called the molecules of emotion that your immune system has a memory of its own. And what tends to happen is that in the case of toxic mold it creates compounds that causes your white blood cells immune system to get hyper aggressive, and it oftentimes sensitize your white blood cells to the proteins that line say at your thyroid or very commonly, your Noushin, call them violin binding in. Yeah. And and so because these are molecular mimics, you get that. And it's also well shown that if you learn to meditate, if you relax you increase, your hurry, Villy, you you learn how to not just think your children, but actually chill that it reduces inflammation, the immune system. The immune system is kind of a mimic of what's going on inside our brain. But the exact mechanism. Rooms of autumn unity. Once we crack that is going to change the world fact last weekend, I was at the expert visionary with Peter Jimenez, and one of the big x prizes that I think got nominated for next year was funding a ten or twenty million dollar prize specifically to deal with autumn unity. I believe the number one cause about immunity is environmental toxic mold because I've seen it over and over and it's such a democ- problem. And the number two cause is. It's either hate or stress. They're going to go down. They it's like, it's a psychological, emotional spiritual thing that's part of it. I know you've spent like a million bucks. Just I was going to insert a really crude joke here. But I want messing with your own biology and biohacking yourself we lost twenty years. And I think that's pretty fascinating. Because a lot of people who are in this field. They will take that sample size of one. And then say, here's all this stuff. We're going to do. Luckily, your sample size seems to be enormous right now because I just got back from Austria. And every cafe had bulletproof coffee. Some of them are real. Yeah. I was like is it really the same beans. And then I they're just like, no, we just take whatever coffee on them. We throw some some key in it or some just butter, and that's it is available in Australia, but not widely and here's the deal. I thought about this. When I first started this anytime, you put butter on your coffee instead of milk, you're getting more benefits from your coffee than milk because milk steals and accidents from coffee, so even if everyone. In the world switches to butter in mouldy coffee, the world is still better off. But it's not gonna call it. That is called butter coffee. Share share? Yeah. You can try that. But I think the problem the problem such the best thing is look if you invented tissue paper, and you call it Kleenex, and then I grabbed a Costco brand. And I say, it's a Kleenex. It's it's not it's not the official thing. But like when you're brand has made it that far into what do you call it the public conscience? It's an honor pretty cool. Yeah. But it would we've spent a lot of letters to make sure the trademark is. Well, protect. Yeah. Yeah. You can see. I mean, I think that that ship has probably sailed in some countries though, oh, we have global trademarks enforcement in different countries different. Could go broke trying to enforce the. Yeah, I think it's it's probably it's better for your brand be recognizable than to go. After the food cart at the mall in Australia. I got the best photo from a remote town in India. And there's a little Handmaid's bulletproof coffee. He had whatever coffee was not bulletproof coffee. And I don't think we can find. Guy to send him a warning letter. And we wouldn't but I wouldn't say if you're thinking about putting coffee and cafe wills heavily. So you the beans that are lab tested for multi brain octane, which is required. It's not MCAT oil. It's different and better, and we'll get you some grass with butter. That's easy. Nice. Well, okay. Look silicon valley's inhaling bulletproof coffee branded or not David Beckham had it or something. I think I saw that somewhere on. There was something on social about that. And Hollywood loves it, and it sort of spans the gamut of people that it went beyond the laughter curtain of why the hell are you putting butter on your coffee. It went pretty fast. And this is a lesson for entrepreneurs listening, and it's the opposite. What they taught me at business going. I went to Wharton. Yeah. Same same school is Trump Adam grant, and your defense, I'll grant with their to a lot of people with their a lot of great people. I think it's fantastic school. The the only issue is they didn't have a built in ethics Pergamon. I went there was the only school that didn't. So we were giving them a hard time about it. I think they've sense remedy that. But they taught us a one class it's cheaper to spend a dollar telling people your product is good than it is making the product. Oh, that's depressing. It's let's in business schoolteaching highlight. That though time it's cheaper to spend a dollar telling people your product is good then to spend that dollar actually making the good, and I fundamentally believe that's unethical. And I also believe people are smart enough to buy what works and having an efficacious product a product that actually does what you say that you can feel and see a difference. So the reasonable took off wasn't. The the brand. Although I think it's pretty awesome name. It is a great name. I thought about stealing many times. But I like you too much to do that. Thank you. Yeah. Nice. But. The honest truth. Is that people try it, and they go I thought it was be us. But I actually noticed a difference. I felt I think I wanna feel this way more. And then they tell their friends because they wanna share something that matters. And that's what made it spread. You know, probably couldn't call it. You know, buttercup or something? Yeah. Maybe it wouldn't have been as cool to refer though to wouldn't have done as well in the bro culture in butter buttercup. I know I rem- I remember the nineties. There was this. You might remember this was like an Arctic expedition the guys were walking to the North Pole or something like that. And I remember there was this nine hundred number member those updates. So my friend was that we're all at some kids house, and we're like, let's call this nine hundred number because it was a bad thing to do, and we'll get updates on the Arctic expedition, so he called and they were like, these guys are hiking. And here's where they are. They're one hundred miles north of this and every day they put butter in their coffee, and we were like that. So disgusting. Yeah. But I think they just needed the calories. It wasn't like this is helps us absorb with. I think they were just starving, and they needed the densest thing they could carry which is pure fat. So they just put that in there. Coffee is true. So Kerry, butter and bacon, fat or. Hello, and like some sort of carbs, and that was about it. Yeah. It was because these guys are on foot. I mean, there's not a whole lot. They could do. And so then when I heard about bulletproof I was like they kind of had this. But it was a little different. And you only need it when you were shivering so bad that you needed five thousand calorie at seven thousand calories a day. It's kind of funny. The idea for bulletproof coffee came to me because I had exhausted the western medicine stuff. And I knew I wasn't happy. And I believe that everybody wants to be happy. I was just willing to literally go the ends of the earth for this. So when I try to list off that was supposed to work and didn't I said, I'm going to go learn meditation from the masters, so I took offered Tibet, and it's been about three months in Nepal into bed and went to monasteries meditated things like that. And then went to mount Kailash, which is remote western Tibet middle of nowhere five days. Four wheel drive to get there and five days in a four wheel drive. You get their hours a day. Yeah. Oh my gosh. That does not there's no way to get there on a plane or anything. No. This is one of the most remote parts of the world now and. It's where visiting Mount Olympus of Buddhism and Hinduism. So this is where the gods live on. This mountain knows ever climbed the mountain, and you go and you walk twenty six miles circuit at eighteen thousand feet elevation around. It sorta like tonner the mountain said I'm going to go do this just because it's one of the things that Jones ever died like it lists. No one from the west. It turns out a lot of people go there in the middle of summer from India and Tibet it's one of those going back sort of things. So I'm going to try this. But I got there two months late, and it was ten degrees below zero. And there's thirty mile an hour winds, and there's only eight people in these little guest house, the call the mud huts on the and I'm feeling racks because the allegation is cold all the way recovered now and this little bit and woman, I saw a picture of her. She gives me yak butter tea, and I drink and it was like game on feel so much better. And it just stuck in my head. I made a habit of noting when I felt amazing. I felt crappy. So I could just find the variables that caused it. And I drink a lot more of that. And when I came home, I decided. All right. I'm gonna start experimenting. I ended up doing the mold free coffee grass fed butter because I tested regular butter. It doesn't work, and I added the brain octane from the knowledge I had from the anti-ageing group, but something else happened in Tibet. I haven't talked about very much I descended seventy five hundred vertical feet in one day. And I completely jacked up, my knees. So I already out arthritis a little like walking down the downstairs for you know, a mile and a half vertical or something. You know? It was I five days could not walk him, a two polls. I could barely massive swelling agent pain. So we're driving to bet, and I really wanted to go in this walk, but I wasn't gonna be able to do it. So we stopped this little mud building on the side of the road and asked to Chinese guy the bus, and you could read the menu. Hey, what does it say? And he read everything I'm looking for collagen. I know I need collagen in my joints. That's what they're made out of just to repair them. There's only one menu item that will fit the Bill. It was pigs ears. Oh, delicious. By the way. I got a bowl of cold boiled pig. Xeres? It was horrible. Really? They're kind of good if they're done, right. I know what you're talking to like the one guy had bulls of pigs ears and just haven't had Xeres, buddy. You know? I imagine that could be good roadside without refrigeration nowhere. It was brutal. They've been dictum in hot soups, and they really chewy. But the next day, my knees were fifty percents header I just needed the materials, and I'm not putting pigs ears at my coffee. So the reason you see call minute business idea exerience coffee to you're all over at. I've guys like, yeah. There's there's a there's a brand here. They can prove Kovai can break improved coffee. Yeah. Yeah. Except it's it's not quite bacon. It's. I'll make it Latin. So it sounds fancy big annoyed yet bake annoyed. So what I ended up doing when I came back is. So all right. I know from the stuff would call collagen does biochemical I'm going to start using it as a performance supplement. And the reasons he called you in every right now, it's all because bulletproof put calls on the map. So the regional posts about biohacking. We're hey, the type of this weird brain octane and stuff this butter in coffee, the purity of the coffee at collagen protein, and those things helped me to resculptured my body like these are fundamental technologies that were missing from the story. And it's that sort of stuff where you just notice one thing in the environment. And he said, wait why? And then you dig in science, and then you build a product out of it. Forty eight million cups, and I hate to harp on the coffee, but it's really this is kind of the flagship product, I know, you have a million other things. But I I am curious because forty eight million cups of bulletproof car that was long time guesstimate. Oh, really that was a long time ago. So probably one hundred and fifty million now, you know, that we yeah. Because. I saw that in the guardian and it was like last year. But the articles shows like twenty four I think it was twenty sixteen. Yeah. And but I was just thinking those poor yaks, right? They're getting milked raw. But all six, right. Why does it matter where the butter comes from because I think, and I don't wanna get too into the weeds on this. But I found that interesting because then it's not just the fat right because you can get fat anywhere. Yeah. It turns out. There's super toxic fats fats do all sorts of things. So you can't say fast good or bad for you. It depends exactly which fat. And when I came back. I just bought some butter, and it was organic butter. It wasn't guys fed and some tea and blended just tasted it and didn't make me feel good. And what the heck? So I ended up trying all these different teas hundred dollar an ounce t kind of things all these no difference. So then I went to the gourmet store at twenty four different kinds of butter. And I just tested them. All I said, wait, he's to work, and those are the grass with butter, and okay, it feels different if views with butter so I- standardized on that. And this was just a process of. Station and elimination. And then I tried coconut oil and coconut milk. And then I tried MCAT oil, which is four different kinds of fat all mixed together. One of which do anything by logically compared to the others. And I ended up after trial and error came up with the one of the four kinds of MCAT, that's brain octane. Well, that was the one that you could feel the kick it had the most effect three years after I launched that UC San Diego came out the study that shows it's four times more Kito Janik. It causes key tones to rise in the body. Even if you had carbs four times more than coconut oil and twice as much as the MCAT. What does that even work and probably three times more than plain old MCAT, wouldn't including all the junk stuff that that you can buy that doesn't raise key tones at all I want to switch gears a little to the brain stuff. 'cause I I actually I got a little sidetracked on the coffee because I'm interested, but the brain kryptonite, and some of the things that are on some of the ideas from headstrong are really interesting because there's a lot of people that think they're eating right, myself included. I mean, I'll I'll be honest. I think eating right sometimes. But a lot of entrepreneurs. Complain. Oh, I slow down a lot or I've brain fog or maybe I'm burning out. And it seems like that's probably true. A lot of us over worked. But I think a lot of us are getting the wrong kind of fuel or we're in environments where things aren't so good. And I know for me one weird observation that I have is let's say you're wearing way too much cheap Cologne and playing I not only at my cranky. You can ask anyone who's been close to me for any amount of years. But I can't do I either get ravenously hungry, but I'm craving junk food, and or I can't sit down and do a task. And I thought it was just getting distracted by the smell. But there's something else going on. It's biochemical. Yeah. I I've gone through phase of my life where I had the same problem. It comes and goes, and that is a toxin effect. And the reason you're getting the sugar craving like that is your cells or freaking out there. They're interpreting that as toxic assault, which frankly is that sofas immigrant disrupting for you. But when that response happen. They're sending out an emergency signal. And they're saying make a lot of energy fight or flight gets triggered. You don't have the energy there each you. Gotta do. Yeah. And it turns out if you want to nail that. When it first happens what you can do is you can actually have two packets of sugar. It's just a couple of bites of something with sugar coffee helps a lot and there's two different three different things that I'll take if that happens one of them is called Kito prime. And yes, these are sometimes I make I'm not trying to sell them. Yeah. Like, I make them for reasons. Saying Kito prime makes it so your cells can make energy more easily make another something called unfair advantage little ampules with I've had that before. Yeah. That stuff in that situation, the cells. Oh, I needed that. These are building blocks for energy. And so the energy demand. Your brain just went way through the roof. Okay. Here's a little sugar. You can burn it. And here's some stuff that's going to make it. So that it burns more smoothly. And then, of course, brain octane works and there's a supplement. I also made called glutathione, which is the primary detoxing antioxidant. So you can start. Oba's up, and then what would have been a zombie. If I'm as real back in my head, and I'm cranky, and it turns into okay, I'm back, and I went from times when life without happening. I'd just be down for the count for like the whole day. Right. And now, I join recover within a few minutes if I just hit it with the right stack, and it is an energetic thing in the cells. And that's now Hackel. Will will? I like the idea that coffee helps as well. Although usually, I just wanna pour it on the person that's wearing all the Cologne. It's sometimes really helpful because it washes the Cologne right off, it's scalding. Hot an Uber car this morning and oh the air fresheners. I always get it. I gotta get just ask them. I'd say could you could you toss glovebox and then that quite seriously? But this guy wearing so much, and it was I go for the whatever the select ones because they usually don't have all the crap in the car. The guys weren't so much clone. Roll the windows down kind of hang the window. Whereas, yeah, it's gross. It's the worst. Yeah. That's that's how I knew that something is wrong because I got an Uber once and I was fine. I was really happy. I was talking to my wife. The phone, and I got in the Uber, and I immediately got ravenously and kind of like danger zone level of hunger and angry angry the right where? Yeah, I got angry, but it was immediate. And I said, hey, man. Can you take out the air fresheners? And he goes sure any pulled over to the side of the highway which has not what I intended for him to do in. He reached in, you know, those drink holders on the side of the Carta. He reached in on one side with his hand and pulled out seven qb airfresheners than reaching the other side and pulled out seven more in each door. And then he threw them in the glove box and slammed the glove box. Shut. And I was like you have like thirty airfresheners in his car, and driver that mimics estrogen in the body disrupts all kinds of things, including your thyroid, you wanna talk about Hasha motos dysfunction synthetic fragrances do that those things should be banned. Why does that what's going on there? I didn't know that you could inhale something and it would trigger that much like smoke. I mean smoke for. Yeah. Okay. Now that you. Put it that way. It makes very power inhalation. Yeah. I believe in college I experimented with the inhalation administered industry. But it doesn't hit us hard. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. It just takes longer. That's right. That's right. So so I've heard good point. Well, I'm going to recover from that somehow. But let's go back to being entrepreneurial that shoe, you're cruising along you're trying to get stuff done something that you didn't choose like that wax you over the head. And now you're still because you're good person. You're gonna succeed you're gonna grit your teeth you're gonna play willpower. We'll probably still use the electricity like everything else, but your electrically just got stolen right now, you're pushing but the solar is always the floor. You're not going fast, you're slowing down. And what are you? Do you're going to get angry. It's natural. So it's our responsibility, especially as especially you have a team working for you, your energy state is reflected in your company because somebody that I've learned I spent a huge amount of time meditating with electrodes on my head and stuff like that. Because I wanted to be able to grow bulletproof. I wanted to. I have to have my shit together. Right. And that means that if something happens in the world around me that makes me weak. I've got to have a countermeasure or I've got to be able to just remain calm. And it's let us remain calm and have enough energy. Is Hartman calm when you're crashing. So I avoid the crashes and you'll eliminate toxins or just remove some of the environment. You eat your blood sugars and crash. You get background key tones by putting Brockton and stuff in your food on your coffee, whatever and all of a sudden, you have stable energy. And that means when you need to make decision apply willpower. You have more resilience and resilience is what makes an entrepreneur Abel's succeed at the end of the day. And stops you from yelling at your assistant or your spouse or all that it's all about the rain. That's why my first first book was what do you eat to feel good and look good and not spend a lot of time worrying about it. The second book was what do you do to make your brain work way way, more often and longer and better than it normally does because this is why I needed these like my own crushes thing you're on your own use as well. And and I think one of the chief problems that I had with all this stuff initially was. Look caveman or whatever or even one hundred years or fifty years ago, we didn't have all these different oils and all those different things we're putting in but upon further reflection. We also weren't working sixteen hours a day seven days a week and sitting in front of computer screens and talking on phones and bathing in blue light, which we'll get into in a second a lot of things were different back. Then that we still suffered consequences. Didn't know what they were. Why would they were happening? But now, it's it's much more. The basic rules is this. If you want to get all your nutrients from your food, make sure you get all of your toxins from other nature like try to do that while living on the planet. You cannot do it no matter where you are like there's preceded the North Pole at this point. So we're now under a higher load biologically on a subtitler level than we ever have. And not to mention all the social media stuff like that. So of course, if you're going to be able to outperform in a harder deployment environment, you might want to modify your fuel source share. It just makes sense. Let's talk about blue light. Because this is something that actually changed my life quite a bit recently both using it appropriately in getting rid of it at a friend of mine. I can't remember why we went to. I think we went to China wife, and I and a friend said, hey, you know, how's your jetlag? And I said it's miserable. They said order this light off Amazon. So we did. And we turn it on in the morning, and it was really really effective or blueberry. It was some sort of blue. Yes. And there's some glasses called recharger that do that it really it really worked. Well, this is really cool. And then I heard something from guys like you and other friends where at night. I was like, wow, I'm having trouble falling asleep. I'll just look at my phone for three hours, and I just felt like I could not go to sleep. But I I'm pretty good at falling asleep. So I was wondering what was going on. It's just some sort of lifestyle change some sort of trigger. And then I want to say you or someone else had given me a pair of blue blogs. It was dark the dark. This is a longtime fifteen years ago started and blue blockers progressives. They actually looked kind of like what an old lady where? Yeah. The way people eight bucks online. Yeah. You can get blue blockers. But if you block all the blue you're not gonna like during the day as you block all the blue it doesn't work all the way at night either. Right. That's that's the problem. I was overdoing during the day and undoing it at night. Yeah. There was some issues with what I was doing definitely. But I'll tell you once I started wearing these things even just in the hour and a half two hours of watching TV, which I don't really do anymore. Which is I didn't realize it massive source of unhealthy. Blue light. I would lay down I would actually fall asleep while we were watching TV or I would lay down and immediately conch out and jen's like, wow, you're you must be so tired now. And like, I've always been as tired. I just don't wanna keep watching TV for four hours. When I watched for thirty minutes, and I'm starting to not off and the goggle the blue light glasses or goggles, or whatever. Depending on my day makes all the difference. And I've I've noticed even even little things like I have an air purifier in our room. And there's a blue light on it it if the tape. Literally LED. I I have to tell you think keeps me awake all freaking night until I taped it over the so I got so tired of this one of the companies. I started is called true dark and I'm wearing a pair of them right now. I have a case of those in my house, right? You have the sleep ones. I have those little godly read those ones are patents spectral filters for those for different spectrums inside there. Those are the ones that have eliminated jet lag tomorrow. I'm flying to New York getting there late sometime, I use those there. I'm going to be a doctor ause why I'm going there. You don't want to have jetlagged when you going to be on TV wanted euless. You can also look really jet lag. It's not a good. No. So you could play the three days early just to make sure that I'm gonna play with my kids. Right. So I I wear these glasses. Religiously when I'm flying from west to east and truly I don't get like anymore, but the blue blockers didn't cut it. So I had to go one. And if you don't have those ones, I do the ones that when you wear me, look like a super villain, right? Yeah. Or like cyclops kind of. Yeah. But I mean you. People were in the air planes now because they're in fact, we've measured within fifteen minutes shifts and brainwaves in people wearing their as junk light is like corn syrup, and so that's important. For those little the flashy light things. I got so tired of this. My house had like electoral tape on everything. So that same company makes these little dots. That are that are die cut. They the block it entirely, but sometimes you need to see it. They just doings on. Yeah. They filled out the blue just a dim red light. And everything in my house has that. And in my hotel room the stupid blinking green lights, right? Above your bed. I always get up there and stick went on there because how can you sleep with every five seconds? There's a bright green flash. Those things drive me nuts. I thought I was just being maintenance green is from that disrupts might O'Connor function in talks to something called Mellon sensors in your eyes, which are driven by minor Qendra, then that talks to a party brain. That isn't even where we're vision is processed to go straight. You're timing system. See brands get a little signal every five seconds. Daytime daytime. Anyway, it's it's just science in the Nobel prize was awarded for circadian biology. So I wanted to do these actually in bulletproof, and then I talked to my team, and they're like, Dave like, this is a very big difference from the supplements, the Nutro bakes in the coffee and the protein bars and all that let's not. So I actually started a separate company. I don't operate this. I funded in and got the organized, but I that comes called dark, and I always wear glasses when I'm indoors because I have my brain on the end of the day. And I just I would say for everyone stares at a phone. There's something that you do this. I'm gonna show you right now. It'll take half a second. Okay. So watch this. This is a normal iphone. I don't show you my calendar because you'll just you'll you'll cry if you see it. Yeah. Whereas I what you normally do is your phone looks like this so normal like I say wins. Yeah. Yeah. It's really harsh. So nightshift is not on. Yeah. I do night shift is always on. No matter what. But here's what you can do with a disability settings that are on here. So I have this. I can triple quick, and I can reduce the white point. And all of a sudden, it's not as bright interesting. Any triple click again, I turn on the red filter now it's like I'm wearing the glasses. But I'm not if you can start that phone in a dark room, and you're not going. It's not as good as wearing glasses. But it cuts out probably eighty five percent of the bad light the settings were there. But they're not designed into the the settings. You have to go in. And basically, do the visual visual accessibility settings. We can link to there's video link to that in the show notes because it's otherwise it's impossible to show people. Yeah. But I also have the accessibility shortcuts set to do that dimming thing, but I'd never seen the red Thompson area. Yeah. But but what what ends up happening like, okay either. We're crazy or we kick ass. Right. It's one of those things if I can get five percent more energy by doing this or my sleep quality, by the way, the dark glasses. I double. A number of hours of deep sleep when I wear it when I measure it if I do that it works. So yes, I will get a squeeze every drop out of every day. And if I have to wear glasses or you not eat the deep fried cheesecake, or whatever I it's a trade that I'm happy to make because I love what I do. And if I hated my life, maybe to see the cheesecake can stare at the screen. I don't know. But I don't I don't like I feel that way. These little tweaks have made a lot of changes. Now, I'm not familiar, and I definitely haven't delved into the science of everything you don't need to bulletproof otherwise, but I will say things like the blue blockers my wife can attest that when I put those things on it's lights out. I mean, she can be reading with a light on. And if I've got the right the cyclops goggles on it's over and these little lights in your room that you think aren't making a big deal out of it. They are absolutely ruining sleep. Schick out. A study came out in Japan. Eight hundred people the amount of light that comes in around your curtains in a normal city. Not like with a bright light around just normal light leakage. Caused a sixty three percent increase in depression compared to sleeping in a dark room. It's crazy that big of a deal, it messes with your your body's sense of win in where you are. So the timing systems. I so I'm a computer science guy every computer has a o'clock in it. And if the computers have o'clock, no circuit knows what other circuits are doing it doesn't work. So your body has quadrille these little things all trying to figure what time it is. And they rely on a central clock. And if that doesn't match it's no wonder that you don't run as well. Sure. Yeah. 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Shut Your Mouth! Nose Breathing Improves All Your Body Systems  Patrick McKeown with Dave Asprey : 835

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Shut Your Mouth! Nose Breathing Improves All Your Body Systems Patrick McKeown with Dave Asprey : 835

"Hi you're listening to bulletproof. Radio with dave asprey. Today we've got large live studio. Audience will live online anyway from the upgrade collective. So you're gonna get a lot of good questions at the end of the show. And i'll be getting a lot of good feedback during the show. I really liked the energy. That happens when my membership mentorship community enroll together and get through these interviews. This is a second time. Our guest today has on the show but he's got a brand new book with only five hundred thirty four pages. We're going to go through and learn a lot of cool stuff to de. You've probably heard the term magic bullet and if you ever think about that we're where did that come from while it turns out that a scientist named paul. Erlich figured out that phrase came up with an in one thousand nine hundred six and he's a guy who won the nobel prize for important work in understanding the body's immune response that later helped us to understand some of how cancer spreads and what we can do with chemotherapy so he was looking for a magic bullet for the immune system in cancer. That we have a magic bullet and it's one that is free out. Some bio hacks can be expensive. Most of them work on mechanisms. That are free but breathing might be the biggest pest magic bullet we have today and our guest today. Who is patrick. Mccowan as more than twenty years of research to find out why before breathing blew up soon. I did there so much in the last couple of years. He's rolling his eyes right now. Patrick was on the show. I think first major guests on breathing with work. He does with take clinic. And since then this book which is very encyclopedic. It matches very nicely. James nesters book. James sister to rutta very popular science book about this. So there's a lot of just really cool stuff that's come out and says while you do this one thing right is probably as important as eating so here. We have it on the show. One of the world's leading breathing re education experts. Patrick welcome back to the show going to be here. Thanks very much dave. You're a bit of a crazy person. Undefined you james are both similarly crazy are you guys buddies Gyms esther near you. Must you each other james. Reach out to me about four years ago. He was writing the book for penguin. Soviet practice small world in terms of. I think we all know each so. Yeah it's it's information. August cross is an people cross paths as well. So it's it's an interesting space living longer and living better all starts with the number but not the number you might think according to the researchers at inside tracker leading scientists in fields like aging genetics and biometric data from mit. Tufts and harvard founded. A company called inside tracker these a patented algorithm to analyze your data and offer you a clearer picture. Then you've ever had before of what's going on inside you enter age. Tutto is their new and improved personalized nutrition system focused on improving your health span. Their advanced data driven model first calculates your true biological age using a bunch of different data points and then creates a science back to action plan designed to help you live a longer. Healthier life for a limited time inside trackers offering bulletproof radio listeners. Like you twenty. Five percent off the entire store. Including to-to go to inside tracker dot com slash dave to get the deal. That's inside tracker. Dot com slash. Dave it happens in In all the different areas of biohacking. We've got the biking conference coming up. Where i do my best. To to cross pollinate things guys biohacking conference dot com Love to see their a couple thousand people in orlando having fun in the sun with smiles and hugs and everything who would have thought but the idea is to bring it together allowed cross pollination but what i find interesting is going back in two thousand two. It is almost twenty years ago. You're in in moscow. Doing is crazy breathing stuff. And i think james was just doing his first stuff. I done my first hold trouble breathing about the same time And so there's this these weird breath. Pioneer gives you just get into it and stay into it so what i want to understand is okay. What made you go to russia that long time ago. It's this weird thing. I it's so odd lease back but you know at least sometimes direct. You directs you in mysterious ways as a kid growing up. I'd asthma stuffy nose and If you have a stuffy nose your sleep. Israeli impacted. So i'd fatigue poor concentration and i was always kind of you know feeling that was not quite right but you're not quite putting your hand on no so i came across a newspaper. Article the ninety seven and it spoke about the work of a russian doctor. He said two things he said. Breathe through your nose. Breathe lesser now. This was news to me. Because i give you an example. I was able to university in them. And i was going. I can remember going into an exam hall. Might finals and i was quite anxious. Going in this is back in ninety. Six hundred ninety five am. I took off off for three minutes before going into the example and i took days full big breaks. Because that's what i was led to believe was the best right thing to do. I walked into the example totally spaced out. I'm for me. It was entirely the wrong thing to do. So when i came across the importance of nose breathing. I started using the nose and blocking exercise it worked so a noodle dish i started breathing less air and the temperature may hans increased to something inish and then i take my matt. That nice Bright strips as well to keep my nose open the first morning. i don't remember much out of it. The first wasn't good or bad. I don't know but i kept sticking with nasal breathing during the day. And i take my clothes again. The second i sh- and i woke up this morning and it was the best night's sleep to that hadn't fifteen years now. Dot was enough for me. You you did that a long time ago. I've got say you've had a a meaningful impact on my marriage because it was after our first interview. That was maybe episode. Four hundred and thirty four thirty four. I think And were above eight hundred as while ago. But i started taking my mouth and my marriage immediately improved but i. I don't know if that was from breathing or just because i was talking less every over that Relationship with food. I think snoring on mid sleep at fifty percent of the adult population up dry out in the morning. And if you wake up the dry out your not waking up feeling refreshed and there's another thing as well for man man should wake up in erection in the morning and if they don't it's not a great sign on it's more likely to happen when they have lousy sleep so i think it's something for the meant to pay attention to maybe females as well. I have been taping my mouth for a couple of years now because of that interview and it really does improve. Sleep in measurably reduces snoring on my daughter has been taping her mouth for probably a year and a half. I got her the the strips that kind of flexible. And after i said no i just like the normal tape so every night when she goes to bed she does it and it's it's made a noticeable difference us you. I got feeling better so if you know a thirteen year. Old dude of her own accord. There's something to it and you don't wake up with a bad tasting mouth so that has been meaningful for me. And as someone who was called me a mouth breather Add chronic sinusitis for fifteen years. So the how is this possible while it is possible. So i i really truly have to thank you for that for anyone listening. Yes sounds weird. Tape your mouth. At night i dunno victoria. secret makes mouth taper not. It doesn't matter. You will really like. I feel in the morning. So it's It's just it's worth it. I wanna just give you shutouts that you're the guy who took on to that and you're the reason we sent out your tape in the dave asprey subscription box. All that. So thank you man. It was a big deal and they've got a new book. That's like compared to the advantage of new. Book is encyclopedic in every kind of breathing. Wondering if i can actually get you to teach listeners. Some of the cool techniques from the book on this interview. Of course. I wanted to have as much detail as possible. I just feel it. Breathing is being to left a failed and it hasn't been protect their properly third re. I really need breathing to be taken seriously. And the only way. It's going to be taken seriously if we can support and if we can support it with whatever sciences is out there granted you know. Science does intense to like breathing in terms of. It's not getting major funding etc but at the same time jobs information about breathing. That's been around for one hundred years but it has been buried in pubmed and it's really important to get into the hands of the general public like you spoke about kids. Fee met a brave thing the mayor population. You know. it really has application for everybody as well as dave. I'm working now with elite. Police forces squash navy ceos air forces olympians and renew see high performance individuals. Taking it on board. There's something And it's great to see getting out there but at the same time. Yeah the book. I had to show that. There's a lot of signs supporting. This is not just something that's taught by a lotta hippies lads going around with robes and beads and scientists and everything. No no no. This is something we have to start taking seriously. It is one of those those books that stands out because there's so much skepticism that you've gotta patrol out there. It's a similar thing with my anti-aging book. There's so many people say you can't do this. You go but look people have been studying this for hundreds of years and there's all this knowledge and just ignore most of it and it. It's kind of frustrating. So you put the knowledge together and you say actually. There's so much hear anyone was halfway curious. Can't deny that it matters. You could argue about a second hold versus five second. But that's what data science in universities are for you. Can you can argue that. It doesn't matter anymore. So i've become over the a really. This is probably looking back. Your influence was was the first one here. If every day were combining air and pounder so food. I know an awful lot about how to manipulate the food to get the results. I want right of great collective. You guys learned tons of this in the class but we don't really learn that much about how to manipulate the other things we're combining with that. Which is the air the rate of flow. We're all happy doing intermittent fast will. How often should you air intermittent fast. And i touch a limit on carbon dioxide in air fasting in other words breathing. But it's maybe five pages of fasting book so you look at this and that equation of aaron food do. How much do you think food matters versus breathing matters. Do you have to get the food writer for the reading to work. Do you have to get the breathing right based on what you eat. How how correlated or connected are they won influences and it's kinda strange because people would bad diets tend to have by breathing if you go into go into a fast food restaurant and you see somebody who's quite may be obese sarah and look at their breathing and look at the food they are asian. Now what's what's feeding in. The just human body is so complex. There's so many by direction relationships. If a breathing is off we can pretty feel lousy. I was in increased sympathetic drive increase stress response. Poor sleep caught for brad feeling air hunger. You know you don't tend to want to eat good food. You tend to just go for comfort and you don't want to do physical exercise because if you go for walker jog you feel excessively breakfast so there is something to go very much hand in hand and i'm going to be biased towards the brett in. Oh i really would want to. Because i think in fact if i was to improve one thing. I'm writing a new book at the moment and this is going back to the problems i had when i was in secondary school. That's high school and university. I'd poor concentration and at a poor attention span answer. Society demands that we have good concentration on attention span society the mindset but nobody's teaching us how how can we improve concentration and attention span. So i've in terms of maslow's hierarchy of needs that needs to be revised for the today's world and deep sleep is the foundation. That's what we have to get right first. And then functional breathing and then breath to wear body aware. Mind aware and south factionalization. So you know. I don't think we have anything would have duct tape sleep and if you look at you know people who are having sleep apnea that's going to impact hormones increases rather than the more food put more wage increase sleep apnea insomnia mental health issues array tied him with poor sleep. I'm breathing is tied in with boats. That yet like the whole sleep industry has really really been neglected here. You know if you think of the the only by the main standard of treatment is a cpap machine and fifty percent of people abandoned after six weeks. It's hardly a success. What about the fifty percent of people who are not able to tolerate and there's a huge connection here with breathing. I wrote an article with to our nose and throat. Doctors that was published in the journal of clinical medicine about two months ago. And it's a ten thousand word article exploring the pheno types of sleep apnea basically sleep disorder. Breathing has changed quite bish in the last seven years. I'm breathing exercises tie in very nicely. So it's just starting to get that awareness out there but it does come back to that. Dave i think if you get sleep price dealer things fall into place. I believe you're you're right in connection with breathing and sleep is there and as someone who always hated sleeping. Because i have other things i'd like to do. I've gone to the point where i'm really really good at sleeping so i get a six six hours and i am fully rested and all of my data sources say. I'm fully rested. Which is ridiculous. Because i think there was a lot of times in my life where i would have slept for longer but i wouldn't have gotten very good sleep. And so it's that quality thing mouth taping has been important in certainly the circadian stuff. You my circadian lighting company. True dark glasses and not eating too close to dinner. All of those. Add up But man taping has been the thing I've also talked about The job breath. And the thing i taught it in the sleep challenge or at least it's one of the free giveaways from something which is a way to rapidly fall asleep. This is a male learned in yoga. Can you talk about the job breath and what that does versus all the other ones that you're going to teach us here in a minute. Yes it was like we do. Gye breath twitter's restriction. I don't teach myself address. Restriction of the roads. We have to ask the question. What's the volume or the tidal volume. That's that's taking part. I think it's going to vary. According to the instructor you could have one instructor who's taken quite fulbright's and even donors restriction of the and you can hear quite a question amount of noise from the sound of breathing which might have another instructor is taking very light rats so the tidal volume is going to be different. And if we think of if you want to influence the autonomic nervous system. It's all in the explanation. If we have a fast and sharp x elation we activated stress response and if we have a slow and prolonged we activation the bodies. Relaxation response so. I'm not sure if i'd be doing fast. Rapid breathing before going to sleep. I be doing the opposite. I'd be down regulation which very soft breath through the nose in really relaxed and slow without anesthetizing with ugi breakfast lunch. The title of the the response rate is quicker may not be but the tide volume is is smaller shorter and as a result minute ventilation reduced. The person's breathing this air and that's going to stimulate the vagus nerve the increased carbon dioxide. So if you feel they are hunger if you feel the air hunger during it stimulates the vagus nerve on by doing that dan. It's going to bring the body in to relax station and mind so so what that is because if you've not heard of this year jay ugi. Uja y it's You breathe in only the nose released almost like you're about to snore like you don't want to be going a little further if you restrict anymore but it you do it really slowly right so so in that trickles in and for most people i know three or four those kind of knocks out makes you really tired. And that's likely that they will nerve activation but if you do really good teachers to tell you not to quickly and you'd probably end up blowing your nose on yourself because it's only the nose so that's one of the many different than the thousands of different breastfeed look at traditional chinese medicine. And all i want to know. How did you pick which breaths to cover in your book. Because i mean you could have written ten books this size to cover the world's knowledge of and breathing so what made the cut every one of the trillions of cells in your body requires minerals because minerals allow enzymes to work and during my research on minerals. I found a company called beam minerals and interviewed the co-founder on bulletproof radio episode eight thirteen. I learned a lot in that interview and in the preparation for the interview. 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We can work with a three zero four zero child to a native mind than everybody in between and in odors exercise to regulate down. Regulates like really. It's it's fairly simple when it comes down to the breathing though you know you have to ask any breathing exercise what's to do. How is it affecting the biochemistry. Which is focused on carbon dioxide. How is it affecting the bio mechanics which is focusing primarily designed from. And how is it affecting this psycho physiological resonance frequency breathing in terms of the autonomic nervous system and then we asked is a distress or exercise or is it a relaxer and you can pretty pretty much put every breathing exercise into those bops. So we have exercise Exercise to down recognize. But i think the key here is dave. it's not just about the breathing on the mash. It's about the breathing. The person when they leave studio everyday breathing patterns. You know if we talk. If if i have a student coming in and if i just worked with a person's breathing it's just working with her breathing wider with me as only a very small percentage of the time. I'm more concerned. How has that person breathing. They walked down the stretch when they do physical exercise michigan to stress down regular before sleep. Howard a breathing in sleep. And i think that's really important. An yoga has enormous potential by embracing breathing to the debt on the potential. That can do. Because i would've loved being fifteen year olds with poor concentration. Poor sleep going into a yoga studio and for the yoga instructor. Saying number one. Patrick i need your breathing through the nose day night. I was a chronic map breeder. If i show you how to breathe a into but less here we can improve your blood circulation and oxygen delivery. That's new information for money. People out there number three. I'm going to improve your by mechanics but the connection posturing spinal stabilization on the emotions number. Four i'm gonna bring you sympathetic drive into a more balanced dolgin make nervous system and that could be done in yoga you know. The potential here to transform transform lives and we shouldn't just think of breathing as being. It's this one silo and that's the way it is because the issue at breathing is that we are. We are trained. According to a tradition. And i was trained originally. According to the bureau toco tradition. I cannot change the beauty commented. of course. I will tweak here and there as best i can with my own students however with the oxygen advantage i set it up that it was not going to be constrained by. It was free to embrace traditions and it wasn't just far. You know a part of yoga but it was performance based because i wanted to get a technique out there that men will do and that men would embrace and you know that's very important. I remember i was giving meditation and mindfulness. Mindfulness on your breathing. Patterns back in ten to twenty thirteen ardent was a mess As a result of economic crash. Here on i gave small classes to three thousand people over the course of two or three years. Ninety ninety to ninety five percent of people who attended were females. And i remember thinking Toronto man it was the man who were dying most by suicide but yet they wouldn't embrace breathing and there were stuck in their heads drowning and tallish and that's part of the reason why we brought up the oxygen advantage. I wanted something that was for the common on the normal person. I'm not just used breathing as a means of training the breath for performance but training the mind because if we can train the mind that's the fifty or which all of life's perceptions are we analyze and it's very important to know how the mind and i'm going to say his. Mindfulness does not work for the very group of people who need it the most because if you have a lousy sleep pattern and if you've dysfunctional breathing you can do all of the mindfulness in the word it was developed two and a half thousand years ago. Mindfulness is wonderful. And i have to say. Because i've done it. I've done diva pass. No is absolutely wonderful. It's not sufficient. Well said if you don't have cells that can make electrons effectively. You don't have enough energy to do personal development where all the way so i That's why when people are doing for years. Zen stuff out it refu- have metal poisoning or toxic mold or anything doing the work that's supposed to work. It's too much work because you just can't bring it and so you've gotta fix the biology enough to start bringing it with the mindfulness. Which then makes it easier to fix the biology. but a lot of people's. I'm just gonna start with mindfulness. But i'm gonna eat a snickers bar i and it just doesn't work like that right and and if you look at mouth breathing as the the lung equivalent of beating a snickers bar. You don't get the same effect from your meditation or yoga class or even your bike ride. And i it's because of of you and james and just playing around with it. Yeah when i go for a bike ride. I is closed as as much time as possible. And my kids of learned it. We've talked with him about masks and so they both learned. Okay breathe in through your nose when the school makes you wear masks some of the time but not the rest of the time in a way that makes no sense And they've noticed a difference from that as well but let me ask you that before we get into teaching some of these Some of these things that work on those four pathways. The biochemical obama chemicals a cadence of those sorts of things What is the effect wearing a mask on your breathing. And i'm not lookin' reprogram masters. What does it do in those four things around by mechanics in terms. Well it really depends on. Who's wearing the mask. Because if you have a person with little tendency towards Panic disorder or asthma or female going to the latter stages of the monthly cycle if you have air hunger and then you put on a mask and that's going to amplify the are hunger. How is the person going to react to the feeling of hunger they will naturally react to the failing suffocation by breathing fast and channel. So it's going to mess up the bio mechanics but it's going to put them into a fight or flight response. It's not enough to tell people to our mask. Isn't that a good thing though. Because if we can put more people into fight or flight response than there are more obedient. Defense was sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm not an elected official. Take but you know what there's like people are saying that the master reducing oxygen saturation. Okay let's break down a little bit down because that's not technically correct talk about the mask pu carbon dioxide so when you Rebrand that carbon dioxide rich air back into the lungs you increase the. Oh two in the blood and this causes a right shift of the oxygen dissociation curve. Meaning that hemoglobin. Which is the carrier of oxygen in the blood releases. Oxygen more readily so in hemoglobin starts releasing oxygen more readily. You'll see that the blood oxygen saturation will drop. So the s p o. Two while wearing the mask is going to drop a couple of percentage points but not necessarily because oxygen can't get in it's because hemoglobin is releasing oxygen more So it because you breathe more. Co two actually came most people who talk about the health effects of mask. Do not understand what you just said but brief more co two that actually for brief periods can be good for you because it releases more oxygen into the tissue but if the oxygen is released from the red blood cells you have less oxygen and the red blood cells but if you do that for long periods of time was the physiological effective that in terms of again you know if if you're bringing in more co two over a period of time your breathing is not normally going to react. It's different for me. Because i can cope with the are and i understand the are hunger but for normal is a teenager and you have the teenager where mass for six hundred dollars. I don't think it's good. I think it's going to be really detrimental to that kid. In terms of how to chai reacting with their breathing patterns. We should be teaching the child to teenager the personal diety panic disorder. If you're wearing the mask understand not to hyperventilation response to the feeling of our hunger. It's the hyperventilating hyperventilation. That is not good. And you know it's like any stress if you're if you're exposed to a prolonged stress for six or eight hours a day several days a week what we have to ask the question. What's going to help the long-term breathing pattern of individual. Oh all sorts of things go down. if you're exposed to chronic stressors. All the time here fertility goes down. Your hormone production goes down. Your health goes out all sorts of bad things. Brief periods of of stress seem to work. Chronic stress doesn't and we know that you and your book you talk about reducing the rate of breathing to between four point five and six point five times a minute or number of breaths per minute How do i know at four point. Five or six point five is right for me and how does it apply to teenagers or paramedic puzzle women. I mean there's all these different groups and that's a relatively large range a debrief. You don't ambu. i'm not saying that. The response rate all day. Every day should be that. I'm saying take ten minutes twice a day or twenty minutes twice daily and pay attention to your breathing and you could. You could choose a good average of six permanent breathing in for five seconds on breathing out for five seconds and this helps to strengthen the borrow reflex which is a very important function. Within the autonomic nervous system is the sensitivity of your your by receptors to changes in blood pressure. I keep it simple. Are major blood vessels have pressure receptors. So the you're talking about the are And you're talking about the Tree and the pressure receptors are continuously monitoring our blood pressure but blood pressure increases the buyer receptors respond by sending immediate signals to the today on the heart rates come down and conversely if blood pressure drops the virus after send immediate signals for the blood vessels to constrict and the heart rate to increase and the sensitivity of our bar reflects which is so important as an indicator of the functioning of the nervous system is the sensitivity of the by refects which is influencing the vagus nerve and vega tone than as evidenced by heart rate variability. So the research over the last thirty years coming from saint paul. I never pronounce his name today. Rob and others that you're slow down the That you can help distract strengthen the bar reflects when you look at people with chronic conditions. People with eater emotional issues. Are there physically unwell. They typically have reduced heart rate variability. That people are wearing wearable devices which is very good. It's giving them feedback with their hatred. But the real question to ask. Here's how can you optimize your hov. And that's when no nose breathing during sleep breathing. Even you breathe life and your feet are hunger. Your hr v. can dip but after the exercise your v. will increase breathing slow breathing low and. That's why i brought together the acronym Lsd lights low and deep breathing and here again. David dave people focus on one dimension. If you go down to your your local studio the focus may be on the bio mechanics but not necessarily looking at the biochemistry resonance frequency breathing if you go to your heart rate variability structure. They're focusing on resonance frequency breathing. But they're not looking at buying mechanics or the biochemistry and again. We have to look at the braxton. I'm not here too complicated. I was teaching the biochemistry for fifteen years. And then i realized oh my god. I'm stuck in this tunnel vision. I really have to start broadening here because the breakfast deeper than just won't dimension all right when you talk about breathing is. Can you demonstrate what is breathing light. Was that look like you. Guys know that might andrea are the power plants in your cells. But they're also something that makes a bunch of other things like neurotransmitters and proteins that your body needs their ground zero for that energy for how you age and for your health timeline. Nutrition makes a supplement called might appear to optimize the way my mitochondria work. It's got clinical studies backing it to revitalize them taking it. Every day supports healthy mitochondria and muscle and strength go to timeline. Nutrition dot com use code. Asprey ten ten percent off because your listener. I'm on their year long plan. That's new dot com use code asprey ten breathing light. Is you have an individual under sitting down and take attention out of the mind and onto the brats and focused on the slightly kotor are coming into night of the nostrils an really slow down the speed of the air coming into the nose and then allow really relaxed and a slow and gentle explanation. The whole objective is. Can you slow down your breathing that the braxton is almost imperceptible. Can you slow down your breathing that you feel any are coming to your nose. Your practice island. You'll hardly feel any are coming into your nose and at the top of the brat you allow really relaxed in a slow gentle explanation and again you come back to the inhalation and you really soft and the speed of the air coming into your nose. Almost at you are hardly breathing at all and at the top of the branch again a really relaxed on a slow gentle explanation so it's just focusing on the area just inside the nostrils and deliberately slowing down the speed of the brecht. I'm by doing that by having a really soft breath and anna relaxed on a slow gentle explanation. The objective is to breathe lasserre to take it by thirty percents To your body and union watching all the of the upgrade collective members pass out follow. That's not going to happen. It's not gonna happen. Let's what is happening you know this. Carbon dioxide is not just as bad guy. That's out there. It's not just this way. S- cost that you read in every newspaper and magazine and everything else. Let's look at the functions of carbon dioxide. You know ira taddeo. I had code hands and feet for decades and it is so common that people vote for breathing have cooled hands face and i've used this thousands of people gently slow down the speed of your breathing for short pockets. Not by holding the Tensing the body just by soft than the speed of the airflow coming in and out of the nose and allow carbon dioxide to increasingly turned to blood. You'll feed our hunger and the body is very sensitive to increase. Co two the feeling of air hunger is not because you're oxygen has dropped. Your oxygen has to drop by fifty percent before that stimulates your breathing so when you breathe a little bit less hair. And your feeler hunger at signifies. The carbon dioxide has increased blood washes happening. When you expose your body twinning crecy or to you stimulate the vagus nerve. You know you're stimulating. The vagus nerve. Because you'll living increased water slide in the match you'll also go drowsy. that's fine. We use this as down regulator before sleep. It influences your blood circulation. Seventy thousand miles of blood vessels in the human body. We can help to dilate them. It influences oxygen delivery. It helps with the airways. So it's you know an but really want to do is improving functional breathing patterns and this of course can be assessed by using a simple tool called the buffs for your bretault time and the boats score. I know it may be shocking for many people. When they're they're they're measuring their own but don't worry about what you gash but you know for people to give it a go you take a normal breath in and out through your nose in your pincher knows your fingers and your time is how long does it take into the field. The first definite desire to breed are the first involuntary movement of your breathing muscles so it's not the maximum length of bretault. Todd it's a physiologic reaction to breed now. Professor kyle keys from evans. University did a study of fifty one individuals twenty Had his conclusion was that. If you're brito time is above twenty five seconds. There is an eighty nine percent chance that dysfunctional breathing is not present. Now i have met h nine thousand working with them whip breathing and i will say that the vast majority of them were less than twenty five seconds. You know typically we have a nasty coming in the about twenty seconds and are to get them up to forty seconds. And then you have. People would panic. Disorder the retro. Time could be done to ten seconds. Let's just even look at this population. Seventy five to eighty percent of the population In panic disorder dysfunctional breathing. Seventy five percents of darren. That's that's fight or flight and it's not. It's not that they're having a panic attack. it's just made. The breathing is a little bit faster. It's upper chest breathing. The may have irregular breathing. Have their mouth open. Maybe it nice and this is feeding into the anxiety and that's why for looked. Let's do this Then in order to to measure that use you take a normal breath in years and then a normal breath out so upgrade collective we got a around forty or so people Dialed in in our audience. So if you guys are not driving or something. Why don't you try doing this just in the chat window. Type your numbers. We're gonna see how how good we are here but you might be it. I'm assuming that you've been quite a number of high achievers in your group. Yeah they're all eighty second Breath empty hold times on average. I'm kidding so but so when you listen to episode. I went into published. Anyone can do this. So all you're doing is normal like a five second in kind of breath you breathe out just threat. It's just normal. Don't change your everyday breathing pattern. You're just having a normal installation okay. An enormous selection. And then you hold. Your nose are better if you hold your nose and you're simply timing is in seconds. How long does it take until you feel. The first definite desire to braids are the first involuntary movement of your breathing muscles debrief out like all the way like as much as you can just unnatural access other some oxygen. Oh twenty five seconds on that crazy. Okay yeah sit to functional residual capacity. But you'll be surprised you know and you know emit especially different subgroups like i would think in the normal population by twenty percent of the normal population of dysfunctional breathing but people with lower back pain. It's fifty percent people. He at seventy five percent people would ask about thirty percent so indifferent pockets it affects females with pms. You know changes in hormones. It's going to influence breathing patterns and the main thing is just to relax into key pulling your breath until you feel the first definite discharge rates and you may feel the involuntary contraction of died from our may be like a swallow in detroit so sometimes it feels like a swallow because you're breathing muscles connected with the operator would delayed your muscles and then when you let go dave the breadth at the end should be fairly normal so i got thirty seven seconds there. That's pretty good. I could feel my heart. My heart was beating faster. But i didn't have a strong desire to breathe. Yeah reading there seemed even though it might commit without. It seemed quite normal at the end of it was still like opening from being pinched. But part of this too. I'm with some of the new tech. That's coming out at upgrade labs. So when i released that you guys will be excited to hear about what i'm doing there. I think that works so one of our guys. A ski had fifty one. Eighteen thirty two thirty three twenty seven. Sixteen I'm heady Who's in her seventies fourteen. Second first impulse didn't wanna breathe till thirty one. Nice hetty forty five seconds so we have some pretty good distribution much higher than average people were above twenty five seconds. so and then someone here at forty. seven wow that's amazing so I would say if you're listening to this. You can do this test for yourself. You just need a little stop. Watch and assyria above twenty five seconds and if you have anxiety which so many people have. You might even know you have anxiety. That was pretty much until i was thirty. There's a reason to be anxious anxious. I just want to punch you. Kate. that's different. Is that like all of ireland. Is that thing back back when you started doing your new york i'm talking about you're describing all this stressed out man as well it said over especially back then but you know i think a lot of men i oftentimes. We're very disconnected from our body. And you know. I think it's normal that people don't realize from their stress but sometimes stressed just catches up on us and we don't quite feel as until we're away from it. We've something to compare it to the bretault time though is a fairly helpful measure in terms of stress as well. Now cat doesn't always work one hundred percent. It's only an indicator. If i'm working with somebody i look at the retro time but breathing pattern but typically when you have a person with a lower brito time. They normally have faster breathing race on a more upper chest breathing on if they have a low bretault time of say ten seconds left in the complaint that they feel are hunger and they have irregular breathing. Irregular breathing pattern. Dennis feeding into that is so it. Is it certain pockets of the population. Kay i'm still a little bit confused about breathing. Light we breathe rican barely feel or sense. The air coming in and out okay. That's one of the three things. You'll talk about breathing deep. But if i'm using light don't i also breathe deep because i'm breathing released lovely so i wanna fill my lungs all the way or those separate techniques there. No you can do them together that you know. I think it's a good question. Because i think a lot of people who did they suspected if you're to breed but lateral expansion contraction of the lower ribs. The jobs take this phobic breath. No no never all. I gave him. If you're just sit there and put one hand on your chat. Sorry one hand either side of your lower ribs so decides bashar and you're looking just just were basically the base of the ribs. Now as you breathe in your ribs should gently move out and as you breathe out your ribs should gently move in and the reason that we have the hands either. Side of the low ribs is because it's a good jake gauge of degeneration of intro. Donald pressure because it takes pressured pushed ribs outwards. Now you could even really slow down the speed of the brands that you're taking a very soft gentle breath. Tree knows anna relaxed than slow gentle breath on have optima movement of the die from you. Don't have to take a big to rate low. And i think that's a mistake. People make and you die from breathing muscle again. what is to. Its massaging the internal organs. It's out for them. Fatty drainage the hardest sitting on top of die from so every movement of the die from it's improving return to their but floats to the heart. It's connected with the emotions. But i think really important aspect to die from it is it's providing stability for spine and functional breathing in functional movement. Go together you can definitely feel the spinal Alignment when you do that. And there's a lymphatic drainage that happens when you're filling belongs up like that and i'm thinking about the art of living breathing techniques. I did this every morning for five years. I'm for for jeez must have been in my late twenties early thirties. I did all this but it is kinda funny because the way you do that. Is you do a set of them with your hands down here and you do a set with your hands. Appear in With your hands behind your back which was to force errand all three lobes of the lung and you do it in each of those things with slow medium and fast. So it's sort of like a little fifteen minute in the morning exercise the lungs and it really did neurologically do weird stuff. That was beneficial. I would say and it. It sounds like there was some aspects of this because we've got breathing light from From your breathing book in breathing light than breathing deep and he got breathing. Slow and so what you showed us earlier with a breeding light. We were almost by definition. Because it's like it's going to have to be slow otherwise it's not going to be lied and didn't have to be deep but it probably would be deep. Feels really slow. You'd want to fill your lungs all the way. So then you get your lsd light. Slow and deep. You have another chapter in the book that i think is worth talking about And it reminds me of a of a chapter in fastest way fasting for women. There are some studies. They'd say it's different in your chapter. Twelve is yes. Breathing is different for women. And it's like we keep figuring out that women are not just little men Or the converse at that or not just large women so what is different for breathing with women. How does breathing shift over the course of a typical month. Does it change at paramount. Oposite change of menopause. Walk me through all of that. Like anatomical few things different in terms of the size of the airways even females doing intense physical exercise airflow more turbulent so they have to work harder to to get adequate aaron but i think the biggest biggest changes is hormonal am during the the monthly cycle. None of this is new. This was first documented back in nineteen o five and we're talking about days twenty days tan. Today's went two of the monthly cycle mid lucille to mid fodder phase. There's an increase in progesterone. Under increase in these trajan and for gesturing a response to stimulants so breathing typically become faster and harder and harder that the size of the breath becomes larger disk caused carbon dioxide levels to fall by as much as twenty five percent now in carbon dioxide never fall by as much as twenty five percent. It can increase pain and can lower paint treadmills. It's putting the female into more sympathetic. Activation increased panic increasing is fatigue on air hunger. But it's not going to affect all famous the same with its especially going to affect females with already poor breeding patterns so for example during the early stage of the monthly cycle if you have a female with both score of fifteen seconds and then she goes to amid And our boats score is dropping and she has symptoms of pms and she's not necessarily accrediting the symptoms of pms to changes in her breathing patterns as a result of changes in hormone and it affects depression. Asthma fibromyalgia females that will meet the diagnostic criteria for five premiership during the latter stages of the monthly cycle. And don't meet them in the early stages so i think it's very important for females to track their breathing patterns across the monthly cycle and also is time for female to be exercising hard anna time than just back off a little bit. And you know that's also something that we should be taken into consideration am so dear aspect females post menopause diets as a result of sleep disorder breathing so Gestion for the younger female seems to protect the airways from collapse so talked about obstructive sleep apnea obstructive sleep apnea span the upper airway collapses during sleep and if it collapses totally that we stopped breathing for more than ten seconds. That's enough neha. So the younger females are protected in some way may be due to progesterone that it's causing a stiffening of detroit. Detroit is less likely to collapse but post menopause with hormones level lelouch the increase of sleep disordered breathing. 'em is significant. It can be as much as three hundred percent. And we've seen it would anecdotal evidence that females who are mouth breathing can have increase of tornadoes smashing on increased hot flashes etc and by getting them breathing through the nose that it can help alleviate dash on tv because of the impact on the system. You know again. It comes back to when i hear people talking about sleep under talking about sleep hygiene and you know all of that is of course very good doty late at night. Don't drink. alcohol have cooled bedroom inari bedroom. You know termination blue light. Federal glasses great stuff. The elephant in the room is breathing in the to the nose and it's also associated with light slow breathing because if we're breathing lies like give you this example. Let's go into a pipe or females at man to make the sound of north through them out. It goes like this. I now if you closure match and trying to north korea match you can't to make the sound of north through the nose and it goes like this but if you breach slow through your nose and you take a very soft slow breath into yunos relaxed And wind your breathe slowly. Tried to snore. And you'll find it's more difficult. Said the whole thing about sleep. Medicine is that the focus has been on the a nationally on the airway but no engineer is going to look at a pipe but considering flow sleep madison has ignored. Debris in component in sleep disordered. Breathing they have ignored how the person breathing outside of their sleep. Because it's the person is breathing during the day. That influences are breathing during sleep and if we can improve their breathing patterns during the day we can improve the breeding patterns during sleep. So i do think the mike disclosed. The tongue is resting on the roof. The matt breathing is in The knows it's like it's slow but it's driven by from because the died from breathing muslim disconnected but the upper donator muscles. Now think of your normal individual disorder. Breathing they're lying in bed mouth. Open their breathing fast and they're breathing chest. The tongue is more likely to fall into the throws. Their mouth is dry. Trojans dry their trojans narrowing because of the inflammation as a result of trauma but also because of the upper chest. anything it reduces lung volume detroiters Collapse and for me. Think that twenty percent of road. Traffic accidents is related to driver fatigue. But there is something really sinister going on for children when we think of sleep disorder breathing affecting two to five percent of the childhood population are prone to sleep apnea at about ten to fifteen percent are prone to sleep disorder breathing. There was a study that was published in pediatrics. In twenty twelve. And i think she's an american researcher called karen bach b. o. n. uc k. And she looked at eleven thousand children. In stratford-upon-avon the united kingdom children would sleep disordered breathing. Pigeon incudes snoring if it was on treated by age. Five these kids had a forty percent increase. Risk of special education needs by age age. Now if my stats right. There are three million kids in america which cognitive difficulties on the problem. Is that if these kids are growing up in if they have poor sleep quasi it's causing brain damage and that's not an exaggeration. This has been overlooked dave. Nobody seems to be talking about. It's no good that these these articles on papers are stuck in the journals. They need to be brought out into the public demand. How many children go into their doctor today with their mouth open. And we'll the doctor ask. Is the chart breathing through the nose. During sleep is to charge. Snoring is to try stopping breathing and is the child in its only plan. It's very obvious is being addressed. An all of those kids are falling between two stools. It's one of the reasons that toxic mold is such a big thing for me. I i grew up in a basement with aspergillus and probably tacky buttress based on all the symptoms. And i've had it other times in life you cannot be a nose breather sleeping room toxic mold and there's one hundred million structures that have this so all of a sudden. It's an environmental input that then causes swelling in the sinuses. So then you have to be a mouth breather which then causes damage on top of the damage. That's caused by neuro-toxins that your breathing anyway. And is it any wonder that a kid like that can pay attention in school or has emotional regulation problems or asthma or punches. People a lot which would kind of describe all of my middle school and below. i'm And you look at it and you'll get the extended the scope of the problem of breathing. And then you'll get all the environmental things or the kids who have milk which makes a lot of slime in your nose for a lot of people so then you can't be a nose breather although if you tip your mouth you'll eventually get past the slime but how many eight year gonna do that very few so that this is a major thing and there's tons of doctors listen to the show so that could coming in with their mouth open and crooked teeth. Maybe it's time to talk about that. What would you tell doctors cape. Let's say that they just heard about this. And they're going. Oh my god. I thought toes radical bow taping. They're gonna take my license for sure. Okay maybe they're not thinking that but how would a doctor tell a patient to take action about this. But i think the first is just common sense. What does the mouth do in terms of. Breathing can wait okay. So i'm going to tell him on this. Your kid is a mouth breather right well. If a child come into me ascend send you know what we're gonna do. Is we're going to work towards restoring nasal breathing. And i would explain it the mom that if the child is mouth breathing. They're typically breeds a little bit faster than upper chest. It can impact our sleep. Children would sleep. Disordered breathing have ten times the risk of learning difficulties. It can impact craniofacial development. Of course. I don't want to scare the life out of the mom but i would really encouraged mom to embrace as a breathing now normally when we're working with kids on parents coming in we spend as much time working with the parents because oftentimes the parent is chronic obstruction of the nose. So we showed the parents how to decongest knows we show the parents how to slow down there breathing to influence Nervous system so by working with the parent the parent than is the one. That's working with the child but come on. Yeah coming back to it fought. Does demand do in terms of breathing. And i was at a conference in chicago back by five years ago and a professor of medicine stood up and said to snow difference between breathing to the mountain. Breathing should the nose. And i don't know. I couldn't believe i really believe the mouth does zero zero functions no function whatsoever at dozen moist the incoming air. It doesn't regulate volume. You'll hardly you harness age nasal nitric oxide very very minute quantities. Mouth breathing his activation jumper chest. It's a faster breathing. The nose imposed a resistance. Your breathing that's two to three times During the day it's your mouth. It imposes a resistance your breathing. That's two and a half times that of the nose during sleep so even when people exercise but matto why your mouth is doing zero zilch. Nothing and One professor of sports medicine. George dahlem from i think it's colorado state university d. d. a. l. l. a. He is being invested interested with nasal breathing For the last five years and he he did a small study of ten recreational athletes and got to breathe exclusively through their nose during physical exercise for six months denny tested the and they had one hundred percent of their work raise intensity nasal breathing versus operating but the response rate nasal breathing was thirty. Nine brett's With mouth breathing. It was forty nine. The fraction of expired oxygen was less with nasal breathing in other words. Their body was utilizing oxygen. Better that's the primary measure of mitochondrial function is how well you use the oxygen you take in. So they're mattock andrea worked better because they were nose breathing flat out and and that's interesting and they had twenty two percent less ventilation so even though they achieved one hundred percent of their work reagan Did it with twenty two percent less ventilation now. I can understand why somebody goes to the gym. And especially when the exercise in a moderate to high intensity. Air hungers getting quite challenging. But at the same time i would encourage do your best to sustain nasal breathing because your recovery is better. You're also more likely to enter flow states. Football or on a field has improved visual spatial awareness but nasal breathing versus We have to think of the connection of the nose in the brian enters a very interesting study. I didn't write a by. But i kind of touched on the buck. There was a study that was conducted. The united kingdom looking at women who were on the pill met their partner and then six months later they come off the pill and change in hormones and there. They had a different outlook to their major when they come off the pill versus when they were on the pill and it was reflective of factory. The knows we select are made based on days of breathing. So there's some stuff here you know sniffing dangerous a term that we often hear the what is it you know sniffing danger the noses performing more functions than give given credit sharp and one doctor back in the seventy seven performed performed thirty functions dr mars concert. But i can see i remember. I was at a conference in italy in rome and twenty six and medical doctors and dentists orthodontists at that conference and one medical doctor from italy showed a video of a patient. Walking down the card or of the hospital added show that gate that the patient had a poor gauge. They weren't walking very stable and the doctor stopped. The patient got the patient to put the tongue into his roof into riffles matt breath through his nose kept the camera rolling on a mediary with good tone resting posture. A nasal breathing. The gate of the patient improved. So you know. I think that tong and breathing to the nose is doing it serving more functions. Don't we actually probably realize it's a fruitful area for biohacking One of my alternate fantasies has been to use a tongue printer. A lot of people haven't heard of this your tongue so many nerves on it so you can have a blind people consciously see with their tongue. They have like a dot matrix printer. That will push a little dots on their tongues so they can actually see around the minute wires into the brain really. Well so i've always wanted to hook other biofeedback systems like the neurofeedback Up to my tongue because your tongue is such an amazing thing for appropriate sense of where your whole body is in space and if your tongue is well informed because it's relaxed it's going to change hydra headsets and there's probably some appropriate in the knows that i know about but it's weird because if you're saying doing normal things in something bite your tongue it's usually because you got exposed to neuro toxin. Your oxygen levels were low. Your brain isn't working right because you lost track. Your automated systems lost track of where you are in space so when you realize wait why did i bite myself. Something caused that. I but we don't think about any of this but it's a major important system is just a sub levels system. That's why would anyone care about your tongue. But i think it's important interesting. I love that you brought that up. And i want to ask you about your fifth appendix in the book. Which is one that i was impressed. He wrote and it was nasal breathing versus coronavirus. Tell me what you think about that. I was surprised that has been absolutely no mention of the importance of nose breathing. And when we think of the gas nitric oxide. I discovered on the exit. Braxton human being a nineteen ninety-one it's antiviral. It's anti-bacterial it redistributes. The blood helps to redistribute the bud lungs. The pressure of oxygen in the blood by ten percent and could nasal nitric oxide mitigate the effects of covid nineteen and. That's only a theory. I put out there. I can't say for sure of course icons but yash we have to ask the question that knows is the first line of defense in terms of airborne viruses coming into the human body and there has been absolutely no mention of breathing to the nose none whatsoever now even in terms of people who are enforced enough to get krona virus blood. Oxygen saturation is dropping. There is a way to bridge to improve your s. p. o. two and that's not by breathing fast shallow but it's by breathing knows slowing low. Because every breakfast we take the last one hundred fifty mil avair doesn't reach smaller sacs in the lungs it stays dead space and if you have an individual who was breathing rapid fast breathing shallow breathing. They are leaving so much more air in dead space unless is reaching the small air sacs in the lungs for gas exchange. Take place so there was a paper then. After i wrote that article i or maybe at the same time. There's an article written in out. Severe microbes and infection is the name of the journal and the researchers talked about the importance of nasal breathing during sleep and their anecdote allows observations that by taping the mack during sleep it may help to reduce viral load and to give the immune system inadequate time to mountain effective response because they said that a lot of the challenges but respiration happen early in the morning and if the individual individuals dare with their mouths open their bypassing the nose and they're not harnessing nasal nitric oxide so here a gaza that we produce naturally as human beings inside the nose and we harness in front of me breath in nature. The knows if we hung we increase fifteen fold homing just by vibrating. The nasal sinuses. It's happening than the nitric oxide to matter. The pardon as the sinuses incidents calving breath toting increases edge. Now those critical tries looking at nitric oxide for the treatment of coverage and one one product that was clinically trialed here in the united kingdom on it showed it. They tested win. Think was seventy seven people. Cove it on the show that simply inhaling nitric oxide is reduced symptom duration and it helped the people recover quicker from from the disease of covert. Now we have to bear in mind. Nitric oxide is completely safe. No side effects it is administered to babies with respiratory distress. The human no is naturally produced. And even if to encourage people break through your nose but also if you want to take nitric oxide Extremity by notch. It should be People to demand like whip. It's wip it's the little the little Trust nitric oxide You can use to make Whipped cream but that people like to inhale at burning man at is hour talking with the proud. No i would. The product is called sawa ties. It's i have nothing to do with it. But i just thought it was interesting. Here is a product. Isn't inhaler with nitric oxide and it's been shown to be effective in the treatment of covert and like. Yeah no mention whatsoever and contacted the medical doctor. that's very much in the forefront in ireland. And i sent him on the information they asked him. Could you please just start looking into the impact. The possible potential nasal breathing here and now. Well it's when you find something that has a broad spectrum improvement in his co. functions things like sickle go ketosis things like not eating toxins breathing. Right you go lower and lower and lower foundationally above that improved so it's no wonder that immunity would get better and if you just give everyone an excuse to go us laughing gas. That's not a bad thing either. Nitric oxide though is a little bit different. Though i know i trust versus nitric unfortunately but nitrous oxide will also raise your nitric oxide levels lease if you have the right enzymes running in your system which you should Lets you have the knox one two and three genes on that are those that are messed up. In which case maybe not patrick. Your new breathing cure book is going to be a bible of breathing thing. Everyone who listens to this show and has for years. Were always looking for things that make us perform better and things that are broad spectrum. And there's some books that you really ought to have on your shelf and when it comes to breathing there are two really important foundational books out there and the breathing cure book that you just came out with. Is it's an encyclopedia. It's got all the stuff that you'd want to know about it. That's one of them. The other one is james. Nesters and james has also been on the show amuse a friend as well and if you have those two books together on yourself. You're going to just sit there and go. Wow i get why and i get. How and there's some. Why in both books. They're both worth your time to read. And i will tell you if you read my book. The bulletproof diet or any math nutritional books ariza's is important food and i've written a breathing only book not planning on it because there's a couple fantastic out here in years as one of them and you're the guy i turned me on how important this was about four hundred episodes so my personal. Thanks to you for that. I would like to go from here and bring some questions on from the upgrade collective 'cause the whole audience here's has been Just raring to ask questions throughout our whole interview and with questions on my youtube channel. So if you wanna catch the questions check them out on youtube and from there just thanks again for your work in the world in pushing on this for twenty years. I think the time of breathing has come. It has one person said to be by two years ago. He says it took twenty years to be an overnight success. I'm delighted to see that. It's finally getting some recognition and have say to james nassar. He has done monumental work and he is. The chief moore would has booked than we have achieved in twenty years and it's raised all boats. It's been really tremendous to see his book. Get out there because it has put it into the imagination of people. I mean he mentioned you in his book while in the potato clinic and what it comes down to here is there are always a few crazy. People working on groundbreaking stuff until one day. They're not crazy anymore and what they're saying is obvious. It's always ten twenty years of kind of bang against things so thanks for doing it because it takes a certain kind longevity and endurance. But it's probably when it's easier when you're taping her mouth at night so at least you got that while. It was like this when i was working with people all those years and still work with people. Nobody could say to me. It didn't work is seen it firsthand myself on a scene that it could be reproduced with other people. And i'm not saying anything a hundred percent. it's never one hundred percent. It depends on compliance. But here we're talking about basic physiology. That can influence all of the major disciplines of medicine dental health. Everything am a mental health. Sleep respiration and these are significant. And you know. I think there is a role for breathing and in time. Breathing will be embraced in medicine. I really think it's going to happen. It may not be driven by the profession but it would be driven by doctors individually dan. It'll happen yes. I think so. The good stuff starts with doctors and they have to fight their medical boards in altogether medical boards to stop being stuck in the nineteen seventies and it turns out mouth taping. Works when you're dealing with someone like a monsanto executive or someone who won't allow you to practice medicine the way you're supposed to we its mouth taping combined with nasal taping at the same time and if you just hold him down for a little while until they can you know make the world a better place. That seems to work really well so anyone who tries to stop your doctor from doing whatever you and your doctor want their. Your enemy doesn't mean you should take their nose mouth at the same time. You should ask someone else to do it patrick. Let's some questions from the audience. Susan you wanna go. Thank you so much for this conversation. Patrick and i'm really looking forward to your new book. I had two questions. One is around tongue position and the other is about altitude. So the question around tongue position is that you. You've mentioned several times linking tongue position to breathing. And i i've been trained in various breathing techniques yoga on techniques. And so on what time positions do you link to breathing day to day as well as your breathing exercises that you found beneficial. It's an interesting question was we haven't gone into the detail of the tone that you might have. Susan m Therapy that's it's it. They they really explorer but we want to have tongue resting in the roof damage on its tree. Quarters of the tongue resting in the roof of the matt and the tip of the tongue shouldn't be touching the top from tease. It should just placed slightly behind top frontiers on. What's for the reu gay now. Nobody i'm working with students. That last him to make the popping sound. Because to make that sound you have to elevate the tongue into the the matt and that's where the thome should be and i always say to students as well. Ideally we wake up at the tongue resting on the roof the matinee morning because the tong has got to places to be. It's the roof of the matt arts encroaching the airway if it's encroaching the airway. It's causing restriction to breathing and that can increase the risk of sleep disorder breathing. Dan day out the chunks arresting in that position where it's not the roof of the mouth and it's not completely flat at the base of the mouth a Doing that clicking sound and then letting it rest there okay thank you. And then on altitude as one who lives at seventy five hundred feet above sea level. I'm wondering how altitude affects your recommendations for breathing breathing exercisers to help improve living bang and training at altitude in simple terms. It comes down to improving alveoli ventilation and we can achieve this by breathing. Slow aggravated there was a study. That was conducted. I remember researchers but they looked at thirty nine individuals who are a height of five thousand four hundred meters and their blood oxygen saturation dropped down to eighty percent which severe hypotheses they got the individuals to slow down there breathing to six would is increasing manifestation so in other words why they were just to respond to write down to six from the title volume increase proportionately so manifestation remained the same and they increased View they increased blood oxygen saturation from eighty percents to eighty nine point. Something percent in other words from severe hypoxia. Tamayo type box. It would be very interesting to measure your blood oxygen saturation at seven and a half thousand fish. I'm assuming you're wild. Climatized probably production. Saturation is going to be normal. But if you had an individual who just arrives and the ruxton saturation. It's down to ninety. Three percents. And i remember after reading. Information from barnardos isn't italian. Cardiologist is very interested in yoga breathing and he spoke about his patients with chronic heart failure that they had exercise intolerance but also their would drop identity. Student committed to me and she had chronic heart failure and her blood oxygen saturation was dropping down to ninety two percent when she was walking. Now i simply had her put her hands either side over no ribs and i simply had a in very slowly for come to five out slowly. Free count to five. I wouldn't about a minute. Our blood oxygen saturation chris. Ninety six percent so simply by changing breathing patterns no slow. It's improving out of your ventilation. And how many people are should would naturally reverts to map breathing fast breathing shallow breathing because of the feeling of suffocation number one that doesn't get rid of the feeling of suffocation number two it's inefficient and it's an uneconomical. Thank you very much. That's super helpful. Everywhere mrs let's do one more things. gome My question is related to aydin deficiency. So i heard that deficiency ban you divinity to for the black to carry oxygen is lower and that you can learn sooner So i noticed that. When i play tennis that in knowing keep dunning letter lee and ben seventy you find out of bread and deformity dire and it was applying sometimes so does debating little on your breathing alone. Had to fix the problem are we should also look at adding deficiency end using supplements are so basically you're saying do we need to to make sure we have enough in the blood for breathing to work. It could be stephen. But i'm not sure that's been honest with you. Know one person might have a breakfast time of both score of sixteen seconds anyway and have adequate iron. So i think there's more you'll have to do just a little bit of investigation and i'm not sure either depending on the extent of iron deficiency what breathing be sufficient with the branch. We can improve efficiency but we also need to make sure that we've got adequate iron as as cardio volkswagen. You can train hemoglobin. Affinity for oxygen intermittent hypoxia trainings on the stuff. We do it upgrade labs. But i think there's probably a some level where if you just don't have enough iron. It doesn't matter what happens but it's probably lower than you'd think and just for people who hear this if you're looking at anemia and you're not looking at copper and iron together. You're doing it wrong because a lot of people think they're iron deficient or copper deficient inside their cell. So you gotta look at both of us. It's a little extra biohacking point. Patrick thank you for all of your knowledge your twenty plus years of studying breathing with maniacal focus that only mouth taped person could have and doing good in the world with it so and thanks for inspiring me to pay more attention to breathing several years ago yano david. 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A Trio of Career Experts Say Yes to Criticism, Ideas and Mentors with Dave Asprey : 854

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A Trio of Career Experts Say Yes to Criticism, Ideas and Mentors with Dave Asprey : 854

"In this special feature episode. I looked into the bulletproof radio catalogue and found a trio of career experts. And the idea. Here is that their insights which i've carefully gone through are going to give you a new perspective to consider. The first of the three experts here is career advisor. Steve hers who says he doesn't wanna take yes for an answer and says criticism moves your career forward in a major way and he developed something called. Aw a w. e. authority warmth and energy to be your superpower in the workplace. If you take his advice that you're going to hear in a minute or two here you realize that there is a way you can talk to others whether they work for you work with you or you work for them so you get what you want. Whether you're remote or at home you're going to learn from creative. Jeff made off. Who says it making a living with your ideas is a marathon not a sprint. And he got his success secrets from forty of the world's top entrepreneurs artists and business leaders and he shares those with us on the episode. So this is a distillation of a distillation. You will get some good knowledge here. And i've known jeff for a long time. he's a very creative guy. And finally a well known. Entrepreneur named kevin harrington is going to turn off your fear uncertainty with one simple step forward which is finding a mentor. The good news. Now that we've had so many people go remote is that you probably can find a mentor more easily than you ever could before. It also doesn't matter if you're new in your career or your far along in your career. This is knowledge from people who have achieved mastery and studied. It is always valuable because hey putting your bread gluten free of course on the table for yourself and your family is really important. Because that's part of what it takes in order to properly feed yourself properly. Clothe yourself and take care of the environment around you which is at the core of being a great bio hacker and evolving yourself as a human being. If these interviews strike a chord with you you can listen to the full episode. Each of these experts. Just go to dave aspirin dot com slash podcasts. And it's all right there. You pretty high performance. You're listening to bulletproof. Radio with dave asprey. What you will find. Is that if you have the the calmness and the presence of mind to learn from a master you can shortcut decades off your progress and this is how i've done a lot of what i do. Look at the people that i interview there. People who've done it before and done it at a very high level mastery and the guy i'm talking about is named jeff made off and his book creative careers draws on decades of experience any also interviews and draws on the stories of forty entrepreneurs artists and business leaders. Jeff welcome to bulletproof radio. Well thank you for having me on. And i'd love to meet that guy you're talking about. It sounds fascinating. You've also been an adjunct professor at parsons school of design for about fifteen years Teaching is a fantastic way to learnt. There you go i mean. I think that you know when i interviewed you. I learned from you when. I am fortunate enough to interview the kind of people that i do like. I'm sure the people that you do you learn a tremendous amount. It enriches you so. I think teaching is not only incredibly important. It's incredibly enrich it What i thought was interesting about us. That all the things you could have taught taught production or something like that. Your courses called creativity making a living with your ideas. So it's very actionable. And that's what i think people want to hear on. The show is all right. How do you tell people. This is how to make money from being creative instead of just how to be creative because it makes you have open heart and all the good stuff that creativity does well. I think that there's two questions come before that and actually start my class every semester with that one is what is creativity. How do you define what kevin's book about the reasons on the show for you. Today is finding a mentor. And what that can do for you. I would not be ready with that mentors. We don't talk about it enough and this show is gonna be about how you can find a mentor or be a mentor kevin. Welcome to the show. Hey dave thank you very much looking forward to living longer. Living better all starts with a number but not the number you might think. According to the researchers at inside tracker leading scientists feels like aging genetics and biometric data from mit. Tufts and harvard founded. A company called inside tracker these patented algorithm to analyze your body's data and offer you a clearer picture. Then you've ever had before of what's going on inside you. Inner aged to-to is their new improved. Personalized nutrition system focused on improving your health span. Their advanced data driven model. I calculates your true biological age using a bunch of different data points and then creates a science back to action plan designed to help you live a longer. Healthier life for a limited time inside tracker is offering bulletproof radio listeners. Like you twenty. Five percent off the entire store including age. Tutto go to inside tracker dot com slash. Dave to get the deal. That's inside dot com slash dave. I was actually in one thousand nine hundred ninety with wiley and sons and and took off. Because i said you don't have to quit your job. Get a get a side hustle. Right so i have a sign caused back then but we did call at that back then we. We called it a spare time. Business opportunity okay. So that book kevin. I have had a side hustle. Since i was a senior high school. I had a lot of mentors in my life and i say my first mentor. I got. When i was eleven years old happened to me my father charlie but i was i he he was a bartender saved up enough money to open up harrington's irish pub and he said kevin. I'd like you to help me out and come on in after school on the weekends. And but i wasn't just washing dishes and serving chicken wings. I he would bring me back in when he closed the books out of supplier meetings and and had me in at eleven years old which was pretty impressive. My dad he wanted me to be an entrepreneur so he pushed me to start a business. When i was in high school. I was trained by my father to be an entrepreneur i trade. He mentored me and but he'll they had certain skill sets and saw I needed to as i as i got out. I sold the heating and air conditioning. Business and i said i started selling businesses because i wanted to have access to all of the information about small businesses that books and the records in the leases and so as a business broker i was selling hundreds of of different companies at one time. I brought an expert on today. Who's a career adviser. He's led large sports entertainment talent marketing firm. He's helped ceos lawyers entrepreneurs and especially young professionals grow their careers faster than they otherwise would have and he's going to teach you some tips on how to develop something called a w e will find that for you. I'm talking about stephen hers. He's president montana group in new york city and he represents two hundred fifty big journalist broadcast executives. Basically knows what he's doing. So stephen welcome to the show thank you. It's quite an introduction. I hope i'm right. I hope. I hope you're right. I should say well you. You got attention because you have a book called. Don't take yes for an answer using authority warmth and energy to get exceptional results. And it's it's a really cool perspective on things so no ever said. Don't take yes for an answer before. Why why is that even a title. It doesn't make sense on. Its face well. The reason why is because i believe that a lot of people unwittingly over the last twenty thirty forty years have been put or put themselves into an echo chamber of yes. There is a three factors for that reason. One we've had grade inflation. Abi is now in as he is now a b. etc. Many universities don't even give out sees they're not allowed so then the second thing is true. The second thing is that we had this introduction in the eighties of the participation trophy and that was great but now the participation trophy is kind of morphed into what i would call an. Mvp trophy so everybody who steps out on any field perspective field you know is is mistakenly thinking that because they got a trophy for showing up they actually are the mvp. It's kind of similar to what movie the the incredible tried to say. So that's the other factor. And then the third and most important factor. I think for your listeners today is hr departments. By and large in many major companies in north america have stopped firing people. They've also stopped giving people feedback for the people that are not necessarily the best performers. They might spend some time trying to get the a. Minuses in the as to a loss but everybody else kind of goes by the wayside and one major. Hr executive told me we don't even let people know they're being let go. We call them downsizings and reorganising riffs. We was all these euphemisms to get rid of the people we don't want they never even know what hit them. And that's why. I say take yes financer because so often in life you think you're hearing yes and then six months later you're on the wrong end of downsizing were reordered and you're out of a job or someone else gets a promotion will if you're so great and everything was so yes yes yes. Why aren't you where you wanna be in life. And that's why called book. Don't take s financing. Were me i define. Creativity is the compelling need to bring about change and that encompasses a great deal. Because i think that all creatives like yourself you created a business out of nothing That you had a compelling need to change in and as long as i've known you which was a few years now that's an ongoing quest. You haven't stopped even though you've gotten quite successful in what you're doing you're on a quest. Probably a lifetime quest for the learning and to do that and to bring about change the healthcare wellbeing all those kinds of things. It's true that for certain kinds of creative. If you don't do it you get antsy. And and you're not happy are all created like that no You know i think that compelling need is something that is shared among true creatives And i think that that's a shared trait and there's other shared traits. Also we can. We can go into and there's also a lot of myths about creativity And i think that those are pretty interesting too so Defining creativity is. Is i think an important important starting point You and i have been to enough conferences where there are a significant number of people that believe being an entrepreneur is an end in itself. That's only the beginning. You know it takes a lot of work to build a business Starting one i think is relatively easy. I think building. It is hard. And i think sustaining that is even harder and i think that a lot of times people gloss over tremendous effort. It takes to be an entrepreneur and build a business. Okay so there's three stages of creativity that people have to pay attention to one is the inspiration to get started which is relatively easy right and then there's two to grow it which is another stage and i would agree looking back over my own experience creating things whether it's in the world of tack or in you know food and supplements things like that and then once you get a certain point there's a stagnation that can happen. Where you know if you become like bob ross and you can paint trees. I think i'll paint trees every day on. Pbs for forty years. But you know what was the next level there. he didn't have a sistine chapel. That i'm aware of are maybe he did so Where do people get stuck the most. When they're just getting started. Is it that i that i act of putting pen to paper or doing. Whatever they're they're creative inspiration is or is it more about just growing at once. They start doing it. I think there are people who get stuck each step of the way and you know one of the one of the things about it is and i give this as an example in my class said how many of you have been to a to a art gallery and seen things and thought i could have done that and lots of hands go up and i said what the difference between you and the person who's got something on the wall they did it so a lot of the mole don't start eve's had mentorship your entire life and then you became a mentor when he really got known. You got known what you were doing. You understood it and then you've taught a lot of people but you've actually been very sparse and what you share about how you've done it and you just out with your book. The reason i reached out to you. is mentored Just coming out is about that mentoring process so you grew up with the metrics. Your dad's like sit here and do this when you're eleven and what i what i like about. The book right now for people is that there are so many people who don't have a clue if someone had gotten through to me when i was twenty and just told me get a mentor and how to do it. It would have been more important than having a side hustle. So your book is the manual on how to do this and i want you to teach listeners now how do you go out and find a mentor. Okay great question. Let's people were talking about crater as something that gives them. Energy helps them recover from athletic activities and generally just makes them feel good. I recently had a chance to give it a try. And i found a brand that actually believe in sharing with you guys is called superspy. Co say they've got their own production facility. They pasteurize it so that there's none of the micro contamination stuff and super spiezio so only offers it in its natural state. no concentrates are no additives. And things like that where some people do to amplify potency but maybe not safeway. So i was pretty excited to try the real deal and i did like how i felt. After you can go to get super leaf dot com slash. Dave get twenty percents off your entire order of krim use code dave at checkout that's gets super leaf dot com slash dave and get twenty percents off when you use code dave. This is step one when you're looking for a mentor If you're in business you write checks every week. At every month to accountants lawyers for me the phone centers to fulfilment centers to media companies to payment processors dozens and dozens of checks and big ones to different people saw. Where do you start who you know who's going to benefit if you grow your business. Those people that you write checks to the accountants the lawyers. They're going to be dealing with a bigger business more sales more monthly fees that they can charge a set but they also want to help you. So i i say start from within your circle that you're dealing with but don't be afraid to ask your accountant. Hey i need some help. I can you help me go. Raise some money all. Hey yes but as it turned out my lawyer new guy said hey. I know how to retire is a retired banker is only sixty years old. This is back a few years back in the eighties but said he does. He's looking for something to do. Maybe you should give them a call show. This came through my lawyer. Bet with this guy. And he he said kevin said your business is in its current. State is on bankable. But i know how to make it bankable and this is the deal that i'm gonna cut with you. You went to five banks on. I'm going to help you. I'm gonna take ninety days because we're going to have to shore up some of your contracts and know your presentation it's never gonna fly so let me work with you. I'm not gonna charge you die. I'm gonna get you a three million dollar line of credit. I probably will get it from someone. That's already turns you down if i get a negative review even if you tell me i'm doing seven things well and one or two things not as well if i can improve those two things still continue to do the seven things well and i come back to a year from now and i'm maybe nine. Oh or eight one. I'm more valuable to you a year later. But if i'm still at seven two because you didn't tell me what those two things were. My value hasn't increased to you. And if i realized that as the employees that increasing my value to you or to the world in terms of more customers better getting along with colleagues better leadership fellowship. Whatever it might be. I'm helping myself so you should be thinking about that criticism as a gift and also take it selfishly boy. I'm so selfish that i'm asking for this constructive criticism. I mean it works on. I believe on multiple levels. The ideal reader of this book is someone who has the core competency in the job job. He can do the three things. I talk about dentistry for example if you needed a dentist tomorrow and you because you had a cavity you could probably find fifty dentists in your community. We all could who are good enough at filling the tooth right. The problem is that the end user often doesn't know the difference between the great dentists the dentists the average so we're really evaluating people on how they make us feel based on their expression their communication of their of their qualities. It's not their substantive qualities that we're evaluating them on as we don't we don't know so again it's to answer questions related. It's not so much about going for beers. All of that helps on the margins. It's about that person. Let's say you're in a computer software. Business which i know. That's your background is an. You need to develop a new program. Whatever it might be you. Dave might be the greatest program under world but in this hypothetical no one person can build the perfect program gotta work in a team of ten. And if you can't listen to the guy next to you who may just know that one little thing that's gonna make that program better even though you're contributing ninety percent of the value of this idea but it's not gonna work without that tail wagging the dog so to speak then you're not that valuable to the team and that's the idea is can you listen other people. Can you make room in the relationship. Because you might be the greatest coder. But if you can't do those are the things you're you're not you're not of great value. How would you tell someone based on on your book about mentorship. How would you tell someone who doesn't have a lot of experience that out. How do they know how high up the rank to target. What do they say. What do they do a great question. I mean i think it's going to take some trial and error for for most of these folks. There is no Just you know. Golden reveal of how it happens but I i'll tell you some some people that have that have got to be in some pretty creative ways. I doubt it. I spoke at traffic and conversion Last year and i think it had six or eight thousand people. They're pretty good crowd. And i am so busy busy the whole time and i'm at the airport and get ready to jump on a plane to go home and the young kid comes up to me and he looks at me and he says he says mr harry conditions i. I know who you are and followed you. I was at the show today. We're so busy. I would've loved and been able to get you but i just want to know if i have one hundred dollar bill and i'd like to give you that for ten minutes of your time. And so the kids sitting there in the airport giving me this and he hands me the hundred dollar bill. Okay and and and by players. I still had about fifteen minutes before we were boarding and whatever and and i just looked at him. And i had a huge smile on my face and i just said you know what sign i said he was probably twenty years old and And so i said take your hundred back. That was a great pitch. And let's sit over here. let's talk. i've been given him some some mentoring ever since then and so. I think it's you said it. It's got you gotta have a good pitch and there's a couple of things mentors. What number one they. I've mentored people that after the first session of the couple actions. And i'm getting with them then the next month and how. How do we do with you know with updates. Can you give me an update from our last meeting. Oh jeez you're not been so busy. I didn't get a chance to do some of those things that she said that i should be doing. And it's like. Hey look. If if i were to take my time and you don't have the time to do what i come up with. Then i'm out. Okay so i say. Mnt should be mentors. Best student and in the book mentor to millions. Mark tim we actually take a journey and mark. Is he sitting in a driveway. The opening of the book sitting an driveway had just he had the best day of his life in business and at seven thirty at night. And he's going into the house but he knows that the minute walks in the house. Everything's gonna turn totally negative because why you for dinner with. You're working to har- what's this entrepreneurship. All about and and he's like. I need some help. Get a real job. Yeah was a real job. My mom used to say that right it so it mark realized that his family wasn't fulfilled and he wasn't fulfilled on the family side. And so we have a journey and transformation that we take mark reached out to me and he actually would bring his kids down to my office down to my house hang out and that was part of the deal because he said his he wanted to create a business that was going to be the most important business in his life. And that's what he did. He he brought the whole team and and they got business cards and they got titles and they got equity in the family business and this was the transformation that he went through during his journey that we talk during mentor to millions. And so i you know mark he reach out to me but i say reach out to me. It actually was pretty cool. Introduction because mark was meant toward isaac ziegler island mentor by ziglar and tom ziegler new. Both of us and tom reached out to the two of us can shed. You guys should be talking. Because i think my dad would would have loved for for me to put you together and so that's so arna mutual. Ed door ended up creating the mentor. Menti relationship between us show. I think again you need a good pitch. You're not going to get a good pitch you if you don't have a good pitch rather you're not going to get that mentor. So sometimes you need to appeal to a side of them that You know that that moat a lot of entrepreneurs like myself i have had lived the the zig quote. You can get everything life you want if you just help enough other. People get what they want. Because i have always been there for entrepreneurs that were pitching me stuff. And even if i wasn't going to help. In the investment i try to steer them in the right direction obviously. You can't do this every single time. But i think the bottom line is that entrepreneurs that are successful. That could be mentors. They ultimately want to be able to provide some of this kind of giving back to the entrepreneurial community in a mentoring fashion. As long as you're a good student and it's not too much aggravation and not too much of a pain in the process. Ten years ago. 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Dave twenty twenty one. I bought one of these for my dad more than five years ago and he totally loved it. This thing works. How do you teach creatives to tell their story until they wanna puke because it seems like that's what it takes. Well you know it's interesting. I mean you think of your favorite rock band and she go here live. Yeah inasmuch as you may like their new music and your lies mix right. That's your classic overweight. Dave and the yak butter coffee is your classic they want here. There's something reassuring about that. There's something comforting about that in your something relatable about that and so you just have to look. I talked to tony bennett. i was i. I was interviewing him. And i said so. You ever get sick a singing. I left my heart in san francisco. He's probably sung net eight hundred thousand times. At least you know and he goes. No you know. I always find something new and and i always have another nuance and i look at it as a chance to perform that again but maybe performed a little better or a little different and he said that's what made my career so i never get sick of it. I think i'm thankful for it. And i think that it's it's bad. It's think of seeing one of your favorite rock bands or even the comedian. Who tells us joke every time. That always gets you to laugh. And you're waiting for even though you know so i think there's you know i think familiarity is a big thing and i think that the value of that familiarity especially with entrepreneurs because they think they've got to revolutionize everything but it's evolution is everything the revolution you lose too many people the evolution is. What takes people along with you so i think that it's It's a really interesting question. But i think that that's how you don't get sick of it. You always use your own creativity to nuance differently into realize that's what helps you get to where you are. The book is called this one very important word in the title. The book it's called don't cake yes for an answer. The most important word believe it or not in that title is take. Because there's something called the give and take greg given take. You're talking about giving feedback right and i'm talking about taking feedback and i believe that the best feedback is the kind that reebok kula got because he initiated it. He was the one who said no. I don't wanna hear how doing well. I want to hear what i could be doing better. And he had the presence of mind at twenty three to say that and now he's thriving in our company three years later because of that mindset and. that's why. I wrote this book honestly and to your point. You're not doing it for the money. I i wish he'd known house the labor of love. It's great it's focusing and it's educating but man it's hard so thank you for writing it though. Most one of the point of really why. I wrote the book. Is that it forces somebody to take the affirmative step in their life and find out to ask that question. Do i have that the you're talking about. Do i have that like do. I have this bad habit of not making eye contact with people. Bad listener is one hundred things. You might be doing wrong. That could be sabotaging your career in your life and you don't even know it and you know that song by nick lowe you gotta be cool to be kind right well. I think it's a slight variation of that. I think it is cruel to be kind by you. Not telling that person about the your sound. I mean sorry. If i'm criticizing you right now Fired but i do think in a weird way if you realize it's cruel to be kind in that moment and my hope is that first of all. I hope a lot of people. Buy my book. And i hope other people right. No but i'm serious. I hope other ripe right books like her. I hope that this this mentality is something that gets really inculcated in american and canadian businesses the concept of authority warmth and energy. It's it's really important and those are things that no-one teaches you. Business school to warden known teases you that in high school. Your career counselors is going to do that and your boss isn't going to do that. Even if they are giving good feedback. I want to just add that. You actually do get taught this at one point in your life this metric of. Aw a w. e. like you say it doesn't show up at warton. It doesn't show up in college doesn't show in law school. Nowhere shows up one time it shows up in kindergarten. It shows are plenty report card in kindergarten. And you know in in the sense that they'll say dave is a pleasure to have in class. Dave is a warm person. He shares his blocks. Well all these things are on your report king. Go back and look and you'll see that these awa equalities are on many report cards also nursery school and then it disappears it disappears in first grade and it never shows up again and the thing is it thing is is that. This is exactly why i wrote this book. Because i'm a bit of a missionary zealot here for this idea that the data shows that eighty five percent of your success is based on not how you are the technical part of your job because that gets kamata ties and everybody gets to be good enough on the bell curve. We'll get the job at the computer company or the dental office of the law firm. Everybody's kind of good enough at it. And that's not separating you an eighty five percent does and yet. We dedicate in our country to this day zero zero resources to teaching people to eighty five percent. We don't have any language around it. We don't have any metrics around it. We don't have anything actionable around it. And that's what i hope people will get from. This book is to say jesus eighty five percent. And i'm not looking at it at all in my life or maybe spend a few minutes and start to learn about it if you look back historically great art. I'm talking about books. Paintings films. Plays dance architecture on and on and on most often. They're the result of either a societal or personal trauma and that's the compelling need to get it out there and i think that if you can channel the angst that you're feeling the uncertainty the insecurity and really go wall and go into it. You can do something magnificent if you aren't afraid of your own feelings and it's times like this. This is a historic time. We're living at and you can take advantage of that to do something amazing. But you have to believe in yourself and you have to apply the effort. That is beautiful advice. Jeff thanks. I appreciate you and fixing on the show. Thank you loved it great conversation. I forgot that we're on zoom out. We were just sitting and talking. Thank you so much. I was at egotistical entrepreneur. When i first started and didn't i didn't. I mean i'll never forget having the conversation with my accounting firm when i was hiring a cfo they're like. Oh you got to put a big budget on that because you're going to be a very big successful company and i'm like but i. They wanted me to pay him more. I was getting and and in hindsight that was a smart move. Probably for me because You know. I own the company right by value. Is it in my paycheck. My value is in the enterprise value of the company. Let me get the best guy. I can in finance. But i didn't take their advice. So i'm i'm totally the opposite. They're i'm like. I want the best people that i can afford. And and and the best mentors that i can bring on and i say that the folks that are out there that are thinking. Can i go get a really good mentor. I get a charge out of out of helping people seeing their success. And i think that's ultimately what many men hours are looking to see. That may be. The biggest gift of of this episode is just that understanding that people who are doing mentoring. They are not doing it at their expense. They're doing it because it makes them happy because it makes them better people because they're paying it forward or they're paying back for their mentor but they want to help and god. I wish i just understood that people want to help you. Like what a what a crazy thing. But it's it's actually how it works. So so kevin thanks for writing minter millions. It is definitely worth read If you liked the show and you're interested in you know how to get that that extra help and just how to get inside the mind of a shark and all that it's absolutely with your time kevin. Thanks for your work in. The world has not preneurs. Thanks for being on the show. Guys take advantage of a thirty day course from kevin. 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