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Docs & More: Lucy Parker and Dave Smith

DocsAndMore

20:38 min | 9 months ago

Docs & More: Lucy Parker and Dave Smith

"You're listening to podcast with left cheat. I'm joined by Lucy Park Director of the documentary film solidarity have Dave Smith who features NFL. Lucy first of all. If I can ask you. Did the film comfortable. How do the film come about so? I met George Fuller. He's in the film in Two thousand twelve. When I was in writing group he was putting of and he was writing about his experiences being blasted and then I went with him to parliament to some of the meetings that were happening and then got to meet the Butler support group and gradually decided to make a film. Dave can I ask you? How did you first meet Lucy? And when she did approach you where you get to. The whole idea of the film will met Lucy when she turned up with Joe. One of these parliamentary meetings we ads and those over the cold. We will an ad roll coach of justice about once a month. That's how I am actually far from being skeptical we were over the moon and someone was interested in what we would do in case because most of the mainstream maniac completely bypassed occasional. Bits on the On the tally in in the news by was it would just be a era mayor and if a nation was really looking for in probably missing so someone who's interested in doing field wave we come on. Join US COME JOE. And it was great and the film itself. Let me just briefly explain for our listeners. Solidarity it's about a bunch of people who've been blacklisted mainly from the construction industry and Dave very briefly. Become what your story is building work out when Alexis go very Union member. I was a union safety so I raised concerns aspects stocks and stumbling on building Soviets. Overflowing toilets remember one time a young fellow scaffolding and always there you know so add safety. Paul Event and the stories even in the middle of the building boom. I just know the work when there was loads and loads of work around. Suddenly you get a job and not only be Derek dies or a few weeks lose my job so let's talk about blackness team but if it was a little bit of urban myth in two thousand and knowing government Department Information Commissions. Elvis did of right and found all of these blackness foil. We still being kept on. And because it's a government department you can apply to get a copy of your fellow and my. I always six pages long. Scott My name address STA National Insurance Number covers a fifteen year. Pay Working Low. F- quite staggering. Really eight yeah. I mean it's the job will complain about a special recorded in it. The job rural complained about young fellow. Fallen off the scaffolding is recorded in the about the is regarded it and it's basically ought to be multi national construction firms. Who Manages would keep tabs on your and then send information up. There is a catch on a centralized database and every time you get job and one of the big buildings so it's anywhere in the country the big companies will check to save. Your nine was on this list and if it was you never got job all or if you're lucky enough to get on the job once they found out you were a sector which is very well documented now and even the companies may doing it when you start to delve a bit deeper. We'll use surprised by what you would discover thinking back now. No but at the time yes I think so. For example with Georgia's case which which was the shook from me the fact that he'd been raising gathering signatures for a petition around homelessness and Housing Typically for women. That was a shock to me that the company would use that to to start to keep track on him but in terms of how like it's particularly in the construction industry how much they Working with the race to a MED that. It's not so much for shock now. I feel like through learning about the blacklisting case. I've I've developed moving understanding of how how these systems operate but I think also just sort of socially how conditioned we are not to speak out and not complain and I think it's really helped me to understand with these things come from them. In terms of being surprised about people being blacklisted. I think the extent to which it was organized an extent to which for example Ian was employed to keep track of these lists the amount of companies in amount of people who were invoked. That feels to me like still like the surprise that that system can support something that is destroying people's lives. I mean I'm sure. Many listeners will be quite surprised to hear about this because of all all you're doing is looking off to workers or finding ordinary rites like simple human minds really. The noise of all of us is if what we were doing was burning places down award in people. They know you know you. There's an understanding about way someone might keep tabs on. Ya this but like when we would just you know raising concerns about health and safety or fats. Very I enjoy always about PII. Jeez actually it's from nineteen ninety two and it says I was involved in its dispute over. Several weeks paid wages so because we had the semester. Actually we've done the work to be. You know that was enough to get one nine on the follow and some of the things that paper on the follow for chest. It's just not irrelevant. And I remember one other follow says that the person was saying wearing an anti-nazi Lake Badge and is assumed to be a member what he will remain to be. Andina hearts will. What would that be bad thing? It's a it's it's the facts of a ways accepted a big companies more. Not like you. If you're you know. Interrupt their built into might profit. It's the debt for the intrusion. The number of companies are involved. Which open about the biggest multinational firms thirds? All of these companies. Were doing this to me. Sounds absolutely incredible. Depth all detail by they kept tune in vigils. I'm Jay. I'm just still amazed. I mean even thinking about you firmly. See I'm just still amazed. I think lots of people are amazed but were so I think learning about how the trade union movement spin oppressed from it so initial founding 's and the fact that the things race where around trade union issues isn't surprising. So when you when you look at it in the history of oppression if the left. It's less of a surprise if I'm honest very surprised. There is a blacklist. What was surprised? Rosie's is the death of it but but since we've been running this campaign loads of stuff has come back for about Monsanto spying. On activists of McDonald spinal. Activists does stuff even in the newspapers wake up at Barclays Bank by went on their own staff and so big corporation sprawling on by disagree with their managerial tactics and you know more interrupted their ability to you. Know might monied isn't really something new. I mean. You know that tournament pool that we leave out. The capitalism cannot these big corporations to Mike Money. A and and and as a group of workers we're standing often so reduce profit margins than I get why they're doing it. I don't think we should. They surprised I'm shocked at the intrusion. I'm outraged but I'm not really surprised that doing it. I think one thing that I'm Steve. He's in the film's Kennedy talks about is feeling that the feelings his family leave him. And the feeling that Yoko up in a conspiracy theory. And that's where I feel like it's really important that people know about people's experiences because it's evident Eric stand to read in and to see so and I think people have those fears of speaking out but when you can see in black and white that this is a reality crushes the conspiracy. Just get moving on from that as well because is not only the corporations who've involved and you mentioned a number of companies that have been involved as well accused of spying on their star form or the workforce the police have also been. This is an arm of the state is also being involved in this timeline. I mean if I'm going to stretch the bit that role shocked when you say that foils. Sometimes it's very obvious. Weighty information comes from it's from a manager building so. I've complained about the two when it's off complaining about my wages at Saudi of kicks but somebody information is beyond dispute. Come from the police. Not because we sound but because the Metropolitan Police have now made it. They've had held. An internal investigation is called operation brewed. Britain's and the Albanian loin in is that meet the Somebody information on the blacklist follows supply Special Branch. And so we go. Paul solve the British deitz equal policing units of the British style. A spying on union activists provided information to to big business and and if that was happening anywhere else in the world the mainstream media in the BBC will be going mad about talking about deceit spin spotlight on boy by the Steitz and all the rest of it and one of the reasons that we carry on doing this kind of tying span. One of the reasons why I think Lucille so in Poland is when you first so paypal. This story in so much as things that happen in this country and it's just quite often British British. Colonialism almost invented this kind of stuff. And when you talk to try unionists in other parts of the world they completely surprised about it whereas in this country people are. And that's that's that's one of the questions of that is stated at the beginning of the film is what's relationship between the states and capitalism is something that I think I suppose hopefully a public inquiry there is a is one with reveal exactly what those links were conversations were between the state and big business and I think in the film as well where we see. Dave being arrested food public odor offensive blocking roads. And I think that's an foundry fascinating way. How does the law define public order like Define Odor and when we see a guess particularly now around the environment where we see big business so resistant to making changes that are going to support order through an. We'll have the environment the biggest questions being asked around. What's what's more what's more important super temporary fixes or the bigger the bigger fix. This is your first documentary. It's alright was easy for you to get funding. Tricky as a filmmaker. How did you find it yet? I'm so I went with them. City projects in Cape Parker who produced the phone and she was really fantastic working to fundraise. We got funding from the Arts Council maliciously but then from that regard funding number smooth trusts and love donations from trade unions and individuals. So it wasn't easy to get the funding and so two was a learning prices. Well it's the first feature film at eight and I guess when you don't have other films behind you. People aren't as willing to support but I think part of the process of funding fundraising associate community building and building audiences. One of the things we promised with when people funded or nations that we would allow them to screen the film. So that's how intensive arranging community screenings. Are you pleased with Helms turned out? Yeah I think I suppose I didn't set out as I introduced myself to Davis and my grand smooth short filmmaking and I wasn't setting out to make conventional document tree and I think one of the politics behind that is to have multiple voices and not have this traditional innovates. I think because a lot of it's quite complex on the legal case to try and bring in multiple voices and to raise questions at different points in the film folks input season. I personally love the film What I love about way is that is precisely because Lucy's and all I am not a documentary filmmaker and things very obvious because documentary. Filmmaker wouldn't have might've failed me in any way shape or form me my favorite sayings when George Fuller Personal Lucy's talk about beginning. He's doing the washing up these These kitchen Or there's a bit where Paper Barbecue and and and until that stuff. It's just it's that stuff that makes his look human robbed just looking at Coke's in big machinery and if the only thing we can ever talk about is Is is blacklisting human beings families and it's that bit I think the emotional poll brings us in an unnatural. I really think it works funded question for both of you what you need see. What's next I'm starting to have conversations with people around the undercover police inquiry which is starting to evidence this year and we'll be hearing this next year as well so I met this early stages of working out if I will make a film about it but I feel committed to the course this undercover policing where they actually went on to come in various activists and actually had Richard Sherman yet so it's really wide reaching and the two women that speaking solidarity were to women are in relationships within the police to it into a police inquiry and the Dave with the Butler support group family justice campaigns environmental campaigns trade union. So it's it's huge in it skirt which is quite problematic. Not Waste but it was really interesting in hoping together. Lots of different experiences. It starting to doesn't fifteen. That's right. Isn't it yet? Centuries a million sets it going two thousand fifteen so already. It's been a really long process in the thing that I'm kind of most interested in a moment is a public inquiry ass and tries to represent and the problems of public inquiries as well and typically as a state run activity and viewed Dave. What's next well? I'm actually a call participant in this undercover police public inquiry loose. Who's just been token about some of the undercover? Police officers was own. Trade Unions One of them is nine. He went on new mall custody. He was a cop and so It was in the same union as me. I went to pick with him. I went to meetings with a May even rain. One of the safety canopy and is in ministry and years later we found who's actually an undercover police officer and his real name was Mop Jenner and he lived a woman on new for us. What Simon told me was already married. So yeah that's You know we talked about. Is there anything shocking KONTA stuff? He's very very shocking. And it's going on nine because this is the police and appreciate during. This is taxpayers money being spent on that GONNA staff. And that's what I find outrageous an an as Lucy said these public inquiry has been going on. It was five years ago and it hasn't heard any evidence yet and fellow of us and our speaker universities across the country And I've recently spoke in Glasgow to a group of free hundred students and asked them if any of them had heard of this stuff about undercover police and at three hundred two people the hand up so so some people listen to your protocol. Smart. I've heard it. I don't think the vast majority of the British public I've heard about which is well. We can't push them because comes back to this thing before people still think that things are happening this country and it clearly does. It's important to understand the big picture of it and how it operated systemically completely end as someone who was followed on delays and. He's very very good friends with a lot of the women ride long-term relationship licenses for the police officers. Everyone in the media is when I talked to. Us is always interested in a tell us your human interest story which is important. I mean it is shocking. What happened but if it's only about human interest you miss the big political page. Which is the facts of the study is systematically doing this not is not Rome. This still doing it to this guy and they basically spa in on anyone. They consider to be in inverted commas domestic extremists and optimize extremely. She doesn't have to commit any chrome. This is this lynch reform police. If you're if you're doing stuff which the duct the senior however all of you know the the political police. Units thinks is a frick Interests will you know interest to do so Robin Mcalpine? It's in Balfour Beatty. Is that is that? Is that the. The brain trusts the on furniture possible day. Thank you very much from purity. You've been listening to the DACHSHUND. More podcast with lefty dwelt if you enjoyed the show review and subscribe to the series.

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Docs & More: Lucy Parker and Dave Smith

DocsAndMore

20:21 min | 9 months ago

Docs & More: Lucy Parker and Dave Smith

"You're listening to the toxin. More podcast we'd love. Gw All this episode is brought to you by Bertha Dot pals the UK's first and only cinema dedicated to documentaries follow birth dot counseling instagram to see this pot light on inspirational female directors for women's history month. Today I'm joined by Lucy Park the director of the documentary film solidarity and USA. Have Dave Smith you features felt Lucy Festival? If I can ask you. Did the film comfortable. How do the film about 'em so I met George Fuller? He's in the film in Two thousand twelve. When I was in a writing group he was putting of and he was writing by experience of being blacklisted ads. And then I went with him to has the parliament to some meetings that were happening and then got to the Butler support group and gradually decided to make a film. Dave can I ask you? How did you first meet Lucy? And when she did approach you where you want. The whole idea of the film will met Lucy when she turned up with Joel. Gibb one of these parliamentary meetings. We ads and also the head coach. We will see an ad Rota justice about once a month for its own and actually from being skeptical. We were over the Mon. Someone was interested in what we're doing. And the case because most of the mainstream media it's completely so you've bypassed occasional bits on the on the Talian in the newspapers but you know it would just be era mayor and if emission was really looking for in probably missing so someone who's interested in doing a film we you know we say come on join US coming Joe and it was great and the film itself. Let me just briefly explain for our listeners. Solidarity. It's about a bunch of people who've been blacklisted mainly from the construction industry and Dave. Can you tell me very briefly? Become what your story is It wouldn't work out when Alexis go. I and I was also very Union member was a union safety net so I raised concerns mass by Stocks Building Salvatore flow in toilets. If I remember one time a young lad fell off a scaffold. Always say you know so. Add Safety Paul and the bike stories the even in the middle of the building boom I just now is the network when it was allowed to work around suddenly odd get Giovanni Beta a couple days or a few weeks I would lose my job. People sort of talks about blackness but it was only a little bit urban myth and name in two thousand and Knowing Government Department Information Commission did ride and found his blackness foil. We still being kept Tony. And because the government department you can apply to get a copy of your follow and my father always six pages. Long Scott Monnaie address. The national insurance number covers a fifteen year period more work. Quite stifling really eight yes I mean it's got the job complained about a special Caesar. Colby job rural complained about young fellow. Fallen off the scaffold and is recorded in the job complained about the oil. It's regarded it and it's basically the big multinational construction firms. Who MANAGES WOULD KEEP TABS? Zonja and then send information was kept on a centralized advice and every time you have to get a job one of the big buildings so it's anywhere in the country the big companies who checked to save your nine on this list and if it was you never got a job or if you're lucky enough to get on the job once they found out you were a sect you which is not very well documented now and even the Companies Doing Lucy when you start to Dell DEEPA. We'll use surprised by what you would discover it. He's thinking back now. No but at the time yes I think so. For example with Joe Jr case which which was the shock for me the fact that he'd been raising gathering signatures for a petition around homelessness and Housing tickly for women. That was shocked to me. The company would use that to keep track on him but Intensive how particularly in the construction industry how much they are working with voice to a med. That is not too much bishop. Now I feel like through learning about the blacklisting case I've I've developed movement understanding of how systems operate but I think also just tive socially how conditioned we are not to speak out and not to complain and I think it's really helped me to understand whether things come from in terms of being surprised about people being blacklisted. I think the extent to which it was an extent to which for example Ian Was employed to keep track of these lists the amount of companies in amount of h People who were invoked that feels to me like still like the surprise that that system can support something that is destroying people's lives. I mean I'm sure. Many listeners will be quite surprised to hear about this because of all all you're doing is by looking off to work. His all fighting for ordinary wrightson human minds. That really the the finger at noise of all of us is the if what we were doing was burning places down organizer so in people. They know you know. There's there's an understanding about why someone might keep tabs on your. What would we would. Just you know. Raising concerns about health and safety or in fact the very first Ngoma follow is about. I'm Pie. Why jeez actually it's from nineteen not to and he says. I was involved in its dispute over several weeks unpaid wages so because we have to remember it's I actually. We've done the work to be. You know that was enough to get nine on the follow and some of the things that paper on the foil for it's just it's just not and irrelevant and I remember one of the followers. He says that the person was saying where an anti Nazi league badge. And it's shown to be a member what he will remain to be. Anti Nazi thing. It's it's the facts the you know. Otherwise accepted be companies more. Not like you. If you're you know. Interrupt their ability to might profit bates. The it's instant death for the intrusion and it's the number of companies that are involved. We're talking about the biggest multinational firms fads all of these companies. Were doing this to me. Towns incredible depth all detail but they kept on individuals. I'm just amazed I mean even thinking about your family's just still amazed. I think lots of people are amazed. But we're so I think learning I guess about how the trade union movements been oppressed through from its initial founding. 's An the fact of the things race around trajan issues Isn't surprising so when you when you look at it in the history of oppression of the left. It's less of a surprise. If I'm honest. Very few of us were surprised. There is a blacklist. What was surprised? Rosie stayed the depth of it. But but since we've been running this campaign loads of stuff has come out for about. Monsanto spun on activists of McDonald spun on activists this stuff even in the newspapers this week about these banks by went on their own staff and so big corporation span on vice disagree with their managerial tactics and a more interrupt their ability to you know might money isn't really something new. I mean you know with that too bad. We capitalism these big corporations at Edsa Mike Money and and and if as a group of workers we're standing up fruit juice with their profit margins than in a get why they're doing a Dunkin. We shouldn't be surprised. I'm shocked at the intrusion outraged but I'm not really surprised that they were doing. I think one thing that I'm Steve. He's in the film. Steve Kennedy took about is feeling the feelings that his family didn't believe him. And the feeling that you'll so call a conspiracy theory and that's where I feel like it's really important that people know about people's experiences because it's evident Eric stand to read it and to see so and I think people have those fears speaking out but when you can see in black and white that this is a reality questions conspiracy. Just get moving on from that as well. Because it's not only just the corporations who've involved and you mentioned a number of other companies have been poked as well accused of spying on their star form or the workforce the police have also been. This is an arm of the state is also been involved in this timeline. If I want to stretch the bit that we're all shocked when you say is sometimes it's very obvious. Waiting INFORMATION COMES FROM. It's from a manager on a building so complained about the two when it's off complained about my anti white. She's outside information kits but somebody information is beyond dispute. Come from the police. Not because we sound but because the Metropolitan Police have now admitted they've had held an internal investigation is called operation. Bruins and the opening loin is that meet the Somebody information on the blacklist follows with Supply Special Branch and Salvi. Festively you go Paul. Solve the British tights You know the dependent equal policing needs of British type. A Spine on union activists some providing information to to big business and and if that was happening anywhere else in the world the mainstream media and the BBC becoming mad about ants open about deceit in spin spotlight on boy by the state and all the rest of it and one of the reasons that we carry on doing these kind of pie in one of the reasons. Why I think Lucy's film selling porn is when you first so people this story. It's almost as if things that happen in this country and it's just quite often British. British colonialism almost invented this kind of stuff and the whirlwind talk to trade unionists in other parts of the world. They completely surprised about it. Whereas in this country people are. That's that's that's I think one of the questions. If that is state at the beginning of the film is what's relationship between the states and capitalism is something that I think I suppose hopefully a public inquiry there is a is one with reveal exactly what those linked swear more. These conversations were between the state and big business and I think in the film as well where we see. Dave being arrested for public odor offensive blocking roads. And I think that's an foundry fascinating of where how does the Lou define public order like Define Odor and when we see a guest particularly now around the environment where we see a big business so resistant to making changes that are going to support order through and we'll have the environment. Bigger questions are being asked around. What's what's more what's more important temporary fixes or the bigger the bigger fixes his first documentary film. Was He easy for you to get funding? Was it quite tricky as a filmmaker? How did you find it yet? I'm so I went with them. City projects in Cape Pirka who produced the film and she was really fantastic working to fundraise. We got funding from the arts maliciously but then from that we got funding from a number smooth trusts and donations from trade unions and individuals wasn't easy to get the funding and move was a learning process as well as the first feature film. It made and when you don't have the film's behind you people and is willing to support always but I think part of the pricing funding fundraising was also so community building and building audiences so one of the things we promised with when people funded Gibson nations that we would allow them to screen the film. So that's helped intensive arranging community screenings. Are you pleased with how the film's tone delve? Yeah I think I suppose I didn't set out as I introduced myself to David. Were my background's in short filmmaking and I wasn't sitting out to make his to conventional commit tree and I think one of the politics behind that is to have multiple voices and not have the traditional narrates. I think because love. It's quite complex. As water on the legal case to try and bring in multiple voices and to raise questions at different points in the film felt inputs in. I personally love the film What I love about is that some is precisely because Lucy is in our aced and not a documentary filmmaker. And I think he's a very obvious because documentary. Filmmaker wouldn't have my that film in anyway shape or form me my favorite scenes ear when George Fuller Person. Lucy's talk about beginning. He's doing the washing up his kitchen. Or there's a bit where paper I've been all Q. And an until combat stuff. It's just it's that stuff that makes his look human rather than just looking like coke in a big machinery. If the only thing we can ever talk about is Is Blacklisting because we're all human beings families and it's that bit though. I think it's got the emotional poll that brings us in and that's why I really think it works question Kobe. Did you see what's next? I'm starting to have conversations with people around unto come police inquiry which is starting to evidence this yea and we'll be hearing evidence next year as well so I met this early stages of working out if I will make about it but I feel committed to the course. This is undercover policing where they actually went undercover in various activists and actually had relationships. It's really wide reaching and the two women that speak in solidarity were two of the women in relationships with undercover police. A poet into police inquiry. And the Dave with the button support group and a family justice campaigns environmental campaigns trade union. So it's it's huge in its skirt which is quite problematic in lots of ways. It was really interesting in. Hurt brings together lots of different experiences. It starts to fifteen. That's right isn't it yet? Centuries a main sets it going in two thousand and fifteen so already it's been a really long process and the thing that I'm most interested in is what public inquiry ass and tries to represent and the problems of public inquiries as well. I'm typically as a state run activity and viewed Dave. What's next well? I'm actually a coal participant in this undercover police. Public Inquiry Lucy's are just been token about some of the undercover place offices was spying on trade unions One of them Is ni-nice went on new. Amy's nightmares mark custody. He was a call using the Siamese unionist. May I went to pick it? Lawrence William went to meetings with a May even rain one of the sites canopy in his In the building industry and years later we found it was actually an undercover police officer and his real name was Gena lived with a woman on new for all of us. What sign told me was already married? So yet that's Talked about is there anything shocking. GonNa Stuffy Sir. Very very shocking. And it's going on in our million because this is the police in the state during this is taxpayer money being spent on that Garner staff. And that's what I found outrageous and as Lucy said these public inquiry has been going on. It was south five years ago. Hasn't heard any evidence yet and fell of years. Baker universities across the country and I recently spoke in class. Go to a group of three hundred students and asked them if any of them had heard of this stuff about undercover police and three hundred two people the hand up with some people. Listen to your podcast of heard it. I don't think the vast majority of the British public I've heard about coal which is well. We can't portion because counts back to this thing before people still think the things are happening in this country and it clearly does. It's it's really important to understand the bigger picture of it and how it operated systemically completely end as someone who was followed on deliver loose and he's very very good friends with Zoey women to ride long-term relationship police officers everyone intermediaries When I talked us is always interested in APP. Tell us your cannot human interest story which is important. I mean it is shocking what happened. It's only about human interest. You miss the big political chat. Which is the facts? The style is systematically doing this not is not rung depot. Still doing it to this guy and they basically spa weigh in on any one. The Bay considered to be in inverted commas domestic extremist and a domestic extremist. You don't have to commit any chrome this. Is this literally folk police if your if your doing stuff which they that the senior however all the political police units finks French interests. Will you know? Intra sued Sir Robin McAlpine than it hits in bow. Fulbe is that is that. Is that the the the British trust on a French Porsche. Uc Day. Thank you very much from. You've been listening to the docks more podcast with lefty Talal if you enjoyed the show review and subscribed the series.

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American Unrest

Part of the Problem

1:08:52 hr | 6 months ago

American Unrest

"We need to roll back the state we spy on all of our own. Citizens are prisoners loaded with non violent drug offenders? If you WANNA know who America's next enemy is? Look at you were funding right now. Every single one of these problems are open government being way to. Work Hey what's up, everybody welcome to a brand new episode of part of the problem of course I. Am Dave Smith the voice in Seoul of Liberty, and he is the king of the Cox Robbie. The Fire Bernstein We are neither of US are in front of fireplaces for this episode, but if you WANNA, get a look at a good fire. Just check any major city across. America, and you'll probably get all the fire that you need. Who Rob sometimes those those episodes where you're like I, don't even know what we should talk about on today show, and then there's episodes like these. Where who there is a? There is really quite a lot going on I've. Go kind of exhausted from looting day so I'm just GONNA. Sit Back and really let you drive the bus on this one. Yeah I can see in the background. You got a whole bunch of cool shit. That rob was the only one looting encyclopedias evidently. An else was going for it, and it's really only left behind. That was a little slow. On my cardio in so once they broke down. The glass I was very. Well. This is a pretty crazy situation. That's going on in the country right now and I. Guess that's. been true for a several different situations over the last really few years, but particularly over the last three months but I wanted to record this podcast and talk about it because I do think like as with as is the case with so many of these issues I do think that we oftentimes have a little bit of a different perspective, and can kind of interpret these situations in a little bit of a different way than most of people who are in this space, commenting on this type of stuff do, and that's because we look at things through kind of a different, a different Lens, I guess than than a lot of society does, but so I I just want to kind of go through everything that's going on. Go through the story and give our. Our our take on it, so there was a this guy. George Floyd is that right as his name right? Yeah George Floyd and he died in police custody after being arrested and a cop basically put his knee to the back of his neck, and Kinda sat on them with with his name for about nine straight minutes while he was on the ground in handcuffs, screaming I can't breathe. There's video of the whole situation, really really horrific stuff just. Just hard hard to watch painful shit. Any died shortly after he was the cops through an ambulance and he died Let me. Just say first of all that I'm not a big fan of the cops. That's kind of understatement. That's been pretty consistent theme of part of the problem since this podcast started. The, the central theme of this show is basically that the state is a criminal organization and criminal in the moral sense of the word, not in the legal sense. Of course, the state isn't criminal in the legal sense, because they decide what is and is not criminal, but governments are criminal organizations in a moral sense, and that's all that we should really care about. I mean that's really what matters I mean. Slavery was not criminal in the legal sense. There was the law of the landed. Most genocides around the world haven't been at illegal. So who really cares about? What's illegal when you're when you're judging whether something's right or wrong? What you care about is morality and. States or criminal organizations and the cops are the enforcement wing. Domestically of of this criminal organization and I'm. I'm not a fan I'm not I'm not a big Fan. I was so funny. just the other day I think it was the part of the problem clips twitter page. They found that old video of me arguing with a Christina Fuck Shit I'm blanking on name It'll come back to me in a second, but are arguing. With her the city Councilman City Council woman in New York. Who said Line, yeah, yeah I. I basically got hurt to embrace the Nuremberg defense. We said well. They're just following orders, and that's how you're supposed to look at. Cops like well. They're just following orders and. As if that's some type of moral defense, it's like so what if you? No matter how evil the order is! You're just GONNA follow it anyway. I've never. been a fan of COPS. I think that they are essentially. A? Criminal Organization themselves in this Andrei and they're. They're a group of people objectively in America. WHO CAN Harass kidnap and kill. People an almost always with impunity. Now. There are exceptions to that, and this might be one of those cases but they. You know they can do things that if any other person did. We would all agree that person is a criminal and because they have a blue uniform and a shiny badge were supposed to. You know, think that somehow they're above these moral rules again. Another central theme of this show is that if there are moral rules than people can't be above them, that's the essence of morality. It's you can't. UNIVERSALS. You can't have some moral belief at like. You can't say killing is wrong or More. Accurately, you can't say is wrong in less. We decide to put you in a special suit. And then this one guy gets murder or no, that's that doesn't work so what they? Say right away. I mean what the cops did to George. Floyd was just outrageous. I mean I'm sorry the. You know the first of all he he was I believe the crime was like. He was. Passing counterfeit bills, which many bucks yeah, which is a whole `nother, you know thing to point out that of course just did a show on the Federal Reserve, a couple episodes back and counterfeiting only okay if you're if you're in the Federal Reserve evidently. But yes, we you know you had to counterfeit the money. It's not as if he was some violent criminal, but to be completely honest, even if you are a violent criminal. COPS, a cops job should not be to enact revenge or fucking get his rocks off in some weird way by punishing somebody who's on the ground. He was in cuffs on his belly. Worst I think four cops they are. There was no need for any of there was no need to fucking throw your name. The back of a human beings neck and sit there for nine minutes with that also I would think canting crime really to see a judge in gathering evidence for because it's pretty. I would think I mean I've run into the situation. But how do you prove that a guy actually counterfeited? The bill didn't receive the bill, and then accidentally spent it. You really have to have a quite the evidence of motive there so to treat someone automatically as guilty off of a reporter receiving accountability. I don't know any more details about that. Because in this case, he saw visual evidence. That was so horrifying that anything prior to that video being turned on like I was saying like initially I was like even if it was a homeless dude, who took a swing at a cop that was out a line. What happened on that recording was completely inappropriate. So, it doesn't really matter what the crime was in this case, because we just visually saw a guy who was getting off on the fact that he had the power to do so, and he was making a scene out of the fact that people were trying to challenge authority. Basic are going to challenge me that I'm just GonNa like we're just gonNA say you're. Kind let me do my thing. We're GONNA. Make this worse. Yeah, no. I agree with you and. Your point on counterfeiting is is well taken, but honestly, in this case it doesn't matter. It's beside the point I. don't care if he knew I don't care if he resisted arrest I, don't care if he swung at a cop before this, it does not matter your job as a police officer is not to fucking. Get your kicks out or get your revenge. Your job is right to apprehend somebody if they need to be and then let the justice system right figure out what the punishment is. You don't just administer the punishment out there in the street. That's like some fucking crazy chat that nobody should be okay with and You know Anyway it's it's all just just horrible. So they so the cops sit. There with with his knee on this guy's neck. He he ends up being. There's I. Think three other cops who are around to just Kinda watch and don't do anything and. There and there's video of it, so it starts generating a ton of outrage. On online and You know. I completely agree with being outraged about the situation I. Really Do, and I think to me. That's the cops murdered this guy and it's a fucking. You know just. Piece of Shit Cops. They deserve fucking to get you know the the worst punishment. They should all have unquestionably been fired and arrested immediately now the one guy has been fired an interested in charged with third degree murder and but the others have not at least as as that the recording of this podcast that to me is the biggest problem of these things. Is that typically speaking? They don't just instantly turn on these guys. They go well. You know we're. We're on team. COP and we've got to be out there. Protecting everybody, so we've got to give these guys special. Special Liberties we got to give them the benefit of the doubt. And even when you've seen horrible videos, typically speaking, I've said I've joked about this before. If you make the newspaper for fucking up at your job, even if he didn't really mess up, they just fire you because he made the newspaper. That's like common practice. If you make the news and you make your company look bad, you get fire. The one exception to that is caused where they gonna what we gotta get this guy's back on and I even saw there was footage today. Online of this sheriff who is? In Minnesota actually led one of the protest marches, and he said I want you guys to know I. Don't remember present that and second the cops do that. Everyone goes okay. We're okay with the COPS. 'cause you guys are turning your back on this guy. You're saying what he did was reprehensible. Fine Okay with you, but more often than not they don't do that. They were above this or not apologizing and it takes three years until it goes to court, and then it's usually favorable jury, nothing happens. And the standard for convicting cops in this country is crazy and believe me. This guy still very likely might get off. We'll see what ends up happening, but it's quite possible that this guy won't facelessness the craziest part about the whole thing. If that video wasn't there, nothing would've happened. Literally, nothing would have happened. We all know that he would've said Hey. The guy was resisting arrest and he was on drugs and. We called for medical attention the second we realized that he was having problems in. He died while medical attention was helping them out. That's the only reason that we even know that this incident took. Place is the fact that there's video which would seem to me, you know it's systematic the fact that probably a lot of shit on us, and and also you're you're right, and it's also worth noting that for all the stuff where you know. COPS have cameras on their vests, and like all these things where you know I, think at this point. Most police. Departments around the country they have vest comes, and or they have cameras on their their cars like the Dash Cams, or whatever where you can see things, but that's how we found out about this, is it? That never seems to be how these things found out? No, no, no, it's somebody with the cell phone while the cops are trying to obstruct the view and try to tell them to leave, and the can get a picture of. That's how we find out that these things are are happening and you know. I would say just two people because I know. There is a tendency and I've been getting in arguments with with people on on twitter about this for the last few days because there is a tendency that a lot of people have. And I think. I don't know may at least in my opinion I think either they are just wrong, or they're at times, incapable of maintaining two thoughts it at the same. Like at the same time, like walking and chewing gum, but so I posted this video of this woman like fat. Black Woman this was in Baltimore at one of the the protests, and she swung on What you see in all you see in the video is this white cop comes over grabs her by the arm. She swings at him. Connects swings again connects. Connects. The white cop keeps his cool completely. Then this big black cop walks up from behind with all his might. blindsides are and knocks her unconscious punch. The right in the fishy falls back or head on the fucking grounds. Then they roll her over unconscious cover like all this shit, and I was just like Oh. This is fucking. Outrageous majors literally knock a woman unconscious. Now there's. There's four cops in the video. Allen I didn't hate as much well listen. This is the point that I'm trying to make their. You can so a lot of people I don't know. Don't swing on COPS. If you don't WanNa, get punched. Do you can have multiple views at the same time? You can say hey, you shouldn't swing at cops. That's a bad idea by the way we don't know exactly what the story is, but the cop grabs first so just saying that is true. Listen if your fucking police officer and there's four of you there and. And you can't handle one overweight woman without punching her in the face, knocking her unconscious dude. That is a fucking that that is something that is absolutely necessary to protect your family. A man should never do to a fucking woman I. IF I saw that with clubs security, I would've said that's kind of coming. If I saw that in any video where the chick connected twice with the dude and some guy got him from behind I, go, I don't know I might be like A. You probably need harder. That sucks that you just got knocked out. At, some point you kind of like. If you're being an asshole, you kind of have like it. You kind of shitty things coming to you. Swings at a cop. I don't know like at some point like I. Like that's somewhat predictable. I can understand like he took a fucking swing a cop. Like what do you think's going to happen? Yeah, I don't know I. Just I just strongly disagree on this one I think that the whole job of a cop is not just to be some fucking security guard Dickhead who's like. Yeah, you had it coming. It's like no, no, no, that's not your job. You don't administer punishment here. She she assaulted a police officer. Okay, you place under arrest. A judge decides. She gets a lawyer that she. She gets a day in front of judge with a lawyer and a suit and a judge in a robe, and she gets to argue her case, and you can to the bottom of it but I just don't believe in this like you NOCCO fucking woman unconscious, and you know I gotta say for a lot of the people who like criticize feminism for their dumb fuck in equality of the sexiest sexist views. It's like yeah. I don't agree with that shit because it's retarded and I also do think it's different to fucking punch a woman in the face than it is to punch face. Well Yeah. There's definitely a difference between your cracking and the July. In this case, firstly, people are human beings are going to make errors in that one. That didn't look to me like that was a copy win. Oh, this is my chance to hit a woman as much as a lot going to handle the situation you just it now. Even I could probably watch that video, or maybe I can watch it again and I go I. Know It's not that way. That doesn't look to me like a guy who are up and goes. Oh, this is my chance to hit a check and more look like he was trying to control the situation, and maybe that wasn't the smartest way to do it, but the check. Check digits land two in a row on the other guy was I I would have to disagree with you on that, but my my larger point bag into this whole conversation is that I think that you know multiple. Things can be true at the same time, so you can say. Let's say floyd did resist arrest. You could say hey, don't resist arrest if you're getting arrested. That is good advice. That's good. That's advice that I would give my friends or my child, or who came out the guy but that, but you can also say the cops are evil for doing what they did. They can both be true and for all these you know. To my point I could reasonably go. If a guy was resisting arrest like they clubbed him once in the leg I go. Yeah, you really shouldn't do that, but then there's a difference when club him seven times or Leopold, your knee over the back of the guy and he goes out while you're doing it, and it's like okay. Yes, is clearly militia so and there's there's also a strong. Point of difference between trying to control the situation getting someone to comply, and after you already have on the ground in cops just. Administering punishment. For Your own pleasure! A very different thing. But I would say and it's usually a right wing. People WHO and don't don't worry. I'm GONNA give my thoughts on the left wing. People as well just hang on but it's usually the right wing. People who have this kind of like You know whatever it's like. Well you there the authority. Do what you're told you know. DON'T RESIST BLAH! Blah, BLAH! How `Bout don't break the law. You know a lot of like. Like that type Shit like Oh, how about this? Don't you want to avoid that situation you know don't sell counterfeit bills or don't sell Lucy cigarettes, or whatever you know, the example is today like that type. Well, they're the law. Do what the law says. It's like Oh. Okay so if we're GONNA, say it. We're going to go by that standard. What about when they passed the law to round up all your guns? What about when they? You know if you're GONNA go by that same standard than it's like. Hey, don't be a right wing, or if you don't WanNa get kicked off twitter, right? I mean. Hey don't say anything that offends them. Don't re-. Right I mean you could. You can play this game with any rule and. If the rule comes out to be something you don't like. That's kind of a fucked up situation. Isn't it like now? I actually think that it's. It's more proper to think about what's actually right and wrong, and then try to get the rules to be You know consistent with what's right and wrong rather than just be like well. They're the rules, so follow. The rules now doesn't mean that. Let me just say it, and then you go ahead. That doesn't mean that it's not wise to know what the rules aren't play within them. Okay like, but that doesn't mean you can't criticize the rules for being wrong I'm sorry, go ahead. They also don't clear not that I've experienced this personally, so maybe this isn't one hundred percent, but I. don't think they clear up their errors that quickly, so let's just go at the total theoretical example that you're being arrested on Friday. Like cop shows up and you're going to be arrested for something stupid in like I. Don't you take off running in the like well if you weren't guilty, why why do you run and it turns out? You weren't guilty. It's like well. It's legal Monday till I. See a frigging judge and. And then who knows what happens with this arrest record? Because sometimes they don't do that good of a job of expunging the system, even if you're totally in the right, and then all of a sudden affects your job record, it's just quickly. Go like look. You know what I mean. They don't treat you also. It's not that fair to go. Hey, they're like their job. Is They? Take in August worked out. And you know it's not a perfectly fair system that like it makes sense to just be a thousand percent compliant. No absolutely, of course all right, let's take a quick second. I WANNA. Thank our sponsor for today's show. Which is Lucy Dot co? They're our newest sponsor Lucy Nicotine. It's a company founded by former smokers who finally making tobacco alternatives that don't suck. It's twenty twenty. Get rid of your cigarettes. Unplug your Vape, throw at your tins of dip and go get some Lucy Nicotine, gum or lozenges. Lozenges they actually taste great. 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This is going to help you. Do it Lucy Dot. Co Promo Code Problem All right, let's go back into the show now Obviously. One of the main reasons why this this incident particularly got so much traction is the the the racial element of it of course right because it's a white cop with his knee on on the back of some black dude now. I want to. There was no way to justify it as being impulsive like sometimes when shots get fired, then you have let's gray area where they afraid this delicious, and usually when it's militias, you have like a dog biting. The guy is leg. They don't get the dog off in. Someone's hurting costs gets injured. It's not permanent. Malicious and permanent with horrifying video footage that. There was GONNA be outrage over, and then even with visual evidence that stunning. They didn't immediately go art like we're trying this guy tomorrow, which is really the extent that you need to go to when it comes to like you can? You can predict that you're going to see public outrage on this level. Yes, no, that's a really really great point is that there is even in situations where like. Like I remember this one The Ahmadou Follow I. Believe was his name in New York when when I was a teenager, he got shot like three times by COPs and he pulled out a wallet that they thought was a on, but even in a situation like that. You can kind of see where they go holy Shit. We thought he pulled out a gun all the sudden one shots. Shots fired. One cop thinks that's the shot from him coming at us before you know what we all open our clips. It's like thirty seconds and Oh my God, we just fuck and like I. don't even know that was the situation, but you can kind of imagine you know like the point. You were making like Oh this with some knee jerk fucking reaction. We got it wrong we were. Were scared and we fucked up. This was none of that. This was clearly you know like the there was no. This guy didn't think he was in danger. It wasn't a snap decision. He was sitting there, enjoying himself as people were screaming. This guy can't breathe. Is the Guy Screaming? I can't breathe, so of course. All of that and I just want to say that I, do think People by their very nature, especially when it comes to politics in these type of things, they're reactionary. We all are you know us to people? You see this all the time whether you see People on the right wing You know a reactionary against people on the left wing. and Vice Versa I. mean you see this with with the anti-trump people? I mean trump could say anything and they're going to be for the exact opposite and a lot of times I think how people figure out what political tribe they're. A member of is that they hate the other tribe, and that's the like well. I'm not with those guys I'm not with them, and you see a lot of this going on right now in this current situation, but this is all over the place this happens. This is I think a huge portion of how politics works. It's just tribalism. And we're all we're all guilty of that to some level but I would say that if you want to try to, you know, try to take yourself out of that and try to be fair and get a real understanding of the truth and what's going on here? Understand that a lot of people broadly speaking who might be considered right-wing right-leaning. They hear people on the left. Just a beuys, the narrative of racism and the history of Slavery Jim, Crow and things like that at every turn the pettiest tarn they'll whatever it is you're you know lecturing people about their white privilege, and if anything was the thing, me and malice. We're talking about that great quote they say the definition of a racist as anyone winning an argument with progressive. It's like anyone and if you can just out argue a leftist than you're racist, that's basically what. What that means they use that term for everything, but I really don't think this should even be a race. It's a human issue. Well, let me do people I've met. Listen I agree with you, but I'm just saying that I try to understand even if you're reacting against the left wingers who who insert race into everything quite literally everything and I get that I get being believe me if you listen to the show, you know I'm right there with you. I think the should is disgusting and stupid. That being said. You can understand where for black people it is a triggering. No Pun intended to see a fucking white cop with his neon black I can understand where black people are particularly outraged about this type of event and feel like black people have been fucked over by the cops from pretty much the very beginning of this country, and all the way through and sense, and by the way there's all these different fucking layered like like points that I think sometimes the right wing. People will have a good point. It's the left wing. People have a good point, but a lot of times. They're missing a lot of the different layers to it, so someone on the left might be like you know. people are disproportionately stopped harassed interrogated by police, and then someone on the right will say yeah, but black people commit a disproportionate a crime, and that's why the cops are located in these high crime areas, and the truth is you're both right. You're both right. One of those points doesn't actually contradict the other one. They can all be true. The fact is that the high crime neighborhoods are often black neighborhoods. That doesn't mean that. Black Kid, who lives in that neighborhood? WHO's not a criminal hasn't been getting harassed by the cops more often because he fits the description of what they're expecting a criminal debate, so all of these things can be true. It's kind of you know nuanced and complicated so now anyway. I just want to say I I. WanNa say I do understand where people have like get triggered by the racial shit, but there was also a reason. Reason why? I brought up that example and why I tweeted out that example of that woman who got knocked out because it's kind of interesting, and in a dark way kind of funny to see the video where this chick swings on a white cop, the white cop just eats them just eats to fucking punches right on the chin, like okay, okay, okay, and then a black cop runs around and fucking knocks this bitch out. This is getting to the point that you were just making which is like I agree like it's almost as if it's not really a racial issue, right? It's kind of a power issue. It's kind of a police issue. It's not like. It's just a lot more complicated than that, and even for left-wing people, and we have some who listen to this show and and I know we. We have some Black left wing people who listen to the show who I've messaged back and forth with a few times over this. Topic I just I understand where you might be coming from. And why like I said the should is triggering for you, but just kind of notice. Entertain the thought that maybe there's a lot of forces at work here. That are kind of manipulating this situation and I tweeted something out about this the other day. That again I think there's a lot of people who just don't. Maybe it's my fault for not making it more clear, but. I go look. There are in America about twice. As many white people get killed by the cops as black people do now. What I said in my tweet was disproportionality aside. That's those are the raw numbers. And then everybody was like you're ignoring the disproportionate rate like no, no, no I making a separate point. Okay. I'm saying that the side listen I understand. Black people are thirteen percent of the population, so it lined up exactly proportionally they would be thirteen percent of the people killed by cops and they're not. They're more than that NAP. Is that because there's more criminals in the black community? Is that because they're unfairly targeted by the police? That whole issue aside I'm not saying it's irrelevant, or it doesn't matter I'm saying I'm making a separate point whatever that is there. This happens twice as much to white people yet. Those stories don't make mainstream news coverage now. Doesn't that seem a little bit strange? Whatever the proportionality is our? If something was happening twice as much as something else. Don't you think you'd hear about it more? Wouldn't it get coverage? I mean like I've seen horrific videos. Videos of of crying man in basketball shirt shorts. Kneeling down a hotel hallway screaming. Please don't kill me in the cops. Light him up. We were just we did a show with a a Pete Krona's about Dunkin lamp that they murdered this kid while you were sleeping. This happens all the time now. I'm not when I say this happens all the time. I mean it's so small percentage of police encounters totally, but this happens, and it's. It's worth noting that MSNBC AND CNN and all these different news outlets. They're not jumping on those stories. They don't care about those. They only like the stories when a black unarmed man being killed by a cop now, why is that? I would say it's because they know that they can play off this fucking feeling in the black community and they can whip up. Of Emotion and anger and divide people against each other, and this is part of the way that they get black people to you know vote for the politicians that they want them to, and it's also part of the way that they keep people divided because that's the great. That's what this whole thing is about. This whole thing is about it's how you rule people. Because you're saying if they reported on all the white everyone, the videos these tragic white. You Know I. It's just tragic. Then it becomes a conversation of like. Oh, it's us. I the police because the police have power and they're using their power when they only report on this as if it's. Happening to black people, then it becomes a racial issue of hey. Look at the horrible situation that black people so have in this country and the. Look. Look if you report on all the cases, then all of a sudden, it becomes kind of obvious that this is an issue of the people verse their government. And the government is this tiny little group of people whose ruling over hundreds of millions of people there's a ton of us, and not too many of them and that's that's not the dynamic they WANNA have. It's pretty hard to rule over people when the people are altogether realizing that you're fucking them over, but if it's black people versus white people will then what ends up happening. The black people look up to their politicians. The white people look up to. To their politicians, we fight over who gets to take over, and we're still ruled by the same people at the end of the day. Amazing and conquer. It's amazing. How indoctrinated everyone is that because they don't see these other cases on the news? They feel like you must be making it up or it's disproportional that it doesn't really happen. It's not happening with any great frequency, and it's that just that cognitive bias that you believe what you see with frequency. But that's what's so interesting about is that you almost seem even if you go. Hey, this is not a race race issue. It's a government in power issue, and it's a human issue effects all of us and let's not let's not start going. Hey, this is just something that affects you all rally together and go. Hey, this affects all of this is human issue to happen. White people tap black people tapping everyone. Let's figure out how we cannot temper the power of the police force, but But even he say that and they're like Oh. Share against black people. You don't think that this is an issue for black neuro. That's not what I'm saying I'm saying that this is horrific. It shouldn't happen to anyone, and it's happening to everyone and the fact are making you feel like it's only happening to you and that you will have to be against all white. People's exactly the like that's what they're going for the mistake here. Yeah, and the truth. Is that like look obviously? Back to my walking and chewing gum point. Anybody if you do like it, forget even resist arrest. If you give a cop shit, if you're anything less than a slave when you have an interaction with a COP, you're likely to have a very bad day. And the most unfair part about that they've got their dirty tricks to get you to stealth incriminate yourself while pretending that. If you're not complying in any way, it's just it's showing guilt. And that entire system is just entirely de that is corrupt. Loud to lie to. You allowed to ask you questions that will forcing incriminate yourself, and then gave them caused to claim the you're guilty by not responding in the way I would have pulled over recently when I was in Colorado I got pulled over for drunk driving, which luckily I don't think I was and I got off so I'm going to stand by that I is in. The tricks they polar incredible because the ladies like Hey i. Why drink not amateur well, you smell like you're drinking. Quiet been drinking while you smell like he explain to me why I'm smelling under breath, and then it's like okay. Are you willing to Are you willing to take this road? Well, what happens if I don't well? I'm not going to have to call into the station, but are you willing to do? Ads Vital do get an answer the answer the like it's crazy. Guess, there's a lot of little tricks that they have and you know for a again for everybody you know just because i. can already kind of hear these responses for anybody who's just kind of like. Oh, well, don't resist the fucking. COPS well don't fucking Sell Lucy. Cigarettes don't fuck in. You. Know have a fake twenty Obviously as you said at oftentimes, people aren't doing that and they're just accused of. Of doing that by the cops, but even that my response to a right winger, who is as something like that is like, so don't have a are fifteen. In fact, don't have a handgun over weapon at all. You like. Wait a second, but that's your freedom, right? That's your right to do that goes okay well. It's fucking Eric Gardner's right to sell a lucy cigarette. You don't get to pick what your freedom that you care about is, but other people don't have. I don't care if the government says you can't have a fucking assault weapon I. don't care if the government says you can't sell a fucking. Lucy cigarette without tax on IT I. don't care I believe in freedom across the board, and so while it may not be a wise idea to resist a police officer. Just because someone does doesn't make them the bad guy. In the same way, it may not have been a wise idea for a slave to try to escape. No they got fugitive slave laws and they're going to catch. You and you're GONNA. Get a really bad beating when you can come back, but he's not the bad guy for doing that because he has a right to his freedom, so anyway, that's me I defend all of your freedoms. Every one of them that's that's my position like I'm. I'M GONNA. Stand up for what I think is right and what's wrong. Okay, so anyway. That's that's my take on that and I would just add one more thing that you know. This is part of the reason why the state is just such a fucking monster that needs to be just slade like a fucking Ah Dragon Algan out of some fucking old Timey fucking tail just needs to be fucking destroyed is that it keeps us in these fucking fucking primitive? Primitive barbaric modes of just using brute force like even like things like the income tax. If you were to say in twenty twenty like Oh we have like. How do we pool money together that unfortunate people who are in bad circumstances need some money, and you were to go like well I. Say you send in a check every year or we throw you in a cage? You're like what does that from the year twelve hundred fifteen. Like what? That's how we still do it today. It's the most primitive brutal. Thing and I look around, and you see things like. You know like Ebay. Okay, for example right where like if you rip people off, you're essentially stealing from them and there's no cops. There's no like prison sentence. There's no they just have like a credit. You know system and you get bad feedback, and then nobody will trade with you again, and there's all of these different like you know technological advances. We've made me and you are having a conversation right now we're we're in different. States were having a conversation. We're still able to put out our podcast to people around the world. Who are listening to this, but you're still telling me the. The only way we have to regulate, someone is selling a lucy. Cigarette is for someone to throw in. A show called the only thing we have to do to regulate a fucking bad twenty dollar bill is fucking. Put a knee on the back of someone's neck at like come on, we're better than this as people. We have better answers than this all around us, and we could figure this out very easily I mean not saying I could but smart people out. There could figure this shit out and Anyway, it's just it's fucking terrible. It's just it's a terrible situation. all right. Now. Let's move into the second part of this whole fucking story, which in many ways the more consequential part because it's terrible is this. Is it was? It was small. It was one person As a response to this this happened in. In Minnesota. And as a response to this right away, they're huge protests. They did start off. HAS PROTESTS AND You know. Rightfully so this deserve to be protested the guy. The one cop has been charged with murdering third degree I I would like to see other cops who were they are charged at least all fired Way If there wasn't that this level of outrage. It that would not. That might not have happened at all. It certainly would have happened this quickly. That was reactionary to help set. People were yeah. Yeah, I think I. Think you're probably right about that. But the pro-, the protests pretty quickly turned to looting and full out riots, and at this point we've had you know. Just you know looting. vandalism riots all over the place I. Mean I know in Minneapolis in Atlanta in Philadelphia in New York City all over the place. I, mean like it's been getting really bad, really really bad and. The you know it's just. It's it's outrageous before Baruch, savage behavior and I don't care. How Angry you claim you are over this fucking murder that should not fucking justified, and it's not okay, and there's so many there's so many hypocrisies all over like on all sides of the fucking story like you'll. These people like who will say things like you know when they're trying to defend the looters and the the the Falcon, the the riots, and they'll be like well, you know. Most of them were were peaceful protesters, most of them weren't assaulting people or destroying businesses, or so. It's like Oh okay well. Most of the cops didn't put their fucking knee highs neck. Does that make you feel better? Are you now angry at the? The cops know right that that doesn't really work. You can't. You can't turn around and use the fucking few bad apples. Excuse for the fucking rioters that the cops are always using I'm sorry. That's that's like not okay. It doesn't matter it. Still it still should be fucking condemned, and those people should be held responsible for what they're doing and to this stupid fucking argument that people's your where they go. Oh, so you care about property more than lives well first of all, it's not just property. There's already been several people who have been beaten half to death over this fucking shit major fucking injuries major assaults. It's this is not just. Just property, but what a fucking stupid false choice! It doesn't matter. It's not same one is better or worse, saying it's fucking wrong and unacceptable and fucking savage uncivilised behavior. It's like if someone fucking murdered your family member, and then you just go over to your neighbor, who had nothing to do with it and fucking check him in the face and you go. Oh, so you're saying. Murder is isn't as bad as kicking someone in the face. It's like no. 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They ended up accidentally. which was pretty tragic and In the liquor store next, but but forget that just burn down the COP station I and I'm assuming was the precinct, or at least two area I think kind of the power. The people a little bit, so that at a now let me ask you this night released taking at least you're taking. Complaints and I'll tell you I. do think I'm sorry. I'm I'm sorry I'll let you answer this question, but I also got to say I think there is this thing like the dynamic. I was talking about before. We're instead of looking at it. As the people vs their government, you look at it at its. It's like white people are the problem, and it does create this kind of mentality where it's like well I'm GonNa go fuck over white people, and in in the fucking light ghetto communities that basically means everyone like everything. It's like Oh. Fuck in target white people. You know cops white depot that. It's all just the system, so they feel entitled to just fucking Fuck Shit up and the other point I should make that I'm sorry. The talking, Lueders don't give a shit about what happened to this fucking guy. They don't. They're trying to get a fucking free sixty inch flat screen from target, and they're having fun doing it. Look at the expressions on their faces. They don't give a fuck. They're not fed up. They're not oppressed people. They're fucking just literally opportunistic criminals. And I also I love the seeing people on their face, acquainting risk or like they grabbed like. Let's say just the doll and they're like when the cops coming to have time to grab something else fucking I'll just take the dawn then they get on. Like fuck I gotta grab so much more, and then you see some guy who runs deep to the bag and he's going to go for the television on. The targeting is someone interesting. Firstly I think US private property is the most important in the basis for all of civilization, and so it's a pretty high ideal, and you know I'm not for anyone violating that What's interesting about going against the like Johnny chain stores is if you just Kinda start looking at it as almost war and leverage that has some sort of logic that who do you think's GonNa have the biggest Paula with like the mayor and. And the local police station being like hey, we gotta change practices. It's if every Walmart and target dot loot like your mom and pop shops, even if every mom and pop shop got fucking limited and organized, they don't have the same leverage in my opinion like your Walmart. They just don't you know I understand the point that you're making but let me just counter by saying. Yes, number one. This isn't the strategy of the looters. Because now they're. They'RE A. Mom and pop stores. They're getting up. They're not trying to gain leverage to to change the system. But I gotta say I think the strategy would be completely flawed. Anyway, look, here's the truth of okay. This is the reality of the situation, and this is part of what pisses me off about the fucking riots and looting I mean what pisses me off. The most is that it's fucking Shit Dude. I've been watching just all day long. Sickening Videos I. Mean Sickening. and. Keep watching them because I want to be informed on the situation there stomach-turning videos. There's fucking one particularly. That was in upstate New York. where these fucking thugs beat the shit out of an old woman outside her store. It's it's literally I. Mean Horrific hitting with like fucking two by fours to I like big big blocks. Record store. Yeah, they want record store and trying to beg him not to in front of her husband. WHO's an old man? They're beaten him up to. It's just like the most horrific thing you've ever since that's one of the reasons I care about it, and also because yeah, it's like fucking. Destroying someone's business is not a joke like that someone's livelihood. That's like you know. These are real things like this whole civilization. We have around us like people have to work and build this and for you to just come in and destroy is just despicable. But after that the other thing, it's like no, if you actually care about like the growth of the police, state and police brutality, and fucking all this shit, which I do, and I think I have some degree of credibility in this, because at this point I'm not so young and I've been doing this for a while. I've been talking about this shit consistently for at least a decade publicly and more. More than that amongst my friends and family but if you do care about this, it's like no, here's the truth. You have a whole group of now. America works right. There's Weirdos like me and you who actually pay attention to politics and have our opinions, and there's normal people who fucking live their lives and have more important shit today, and there's like there's this whole group of like. A reasonable people and when normal reasonable people see the video of a cop putting his knee on this fucking handcuffed man's neck for nine minutes before he dies while he screams I can't breathe, they go. That's outrageous. The cops are out of control. We have a problem with the cops. This is what almost everybody I know, and I've talked to a lot of people just like personally you know people in my life. You know my father in law. In different people were kind of right wing leaning. White guys you know they all kind of felt the same way. They're kind of like we're with you. This is wrong. Something needs to happen. about you know like something needs to happen about this. When people see savages, looting destroying a sewing. Putting people, yes, his fist on people's necks. It's exactly what they want and by the way, why do you think the fucking cops back off and let them do it because they fucking? No, you're basically doing pr for the cops. Normal reasonable people look at people burning cities to the ground and go you know what we need. Cops and we might even need a police state. We need cops to go in there and start cracking skulls and fucking lip, so do I take. Target. No I'm just saying. It's the arrest strategic. Move you literally you get everybody. You even get libertarians to start going folk. Unleashed the cops. Fucking, put this thing down because you know what state is a threat to our liberty but the mob is an equal threat to live liberty and a bigger threat to any sense of order at all, which is also important, you know so like because you can have basically no liberty in complete chaos, so like I'm sorry. This is the worst thing that these people could have done and the people who are like Involved in the protests they need. They need to fucking speak out against this because they are your worst enemy right now in many ways more than the cops. They're gonNA. They're going to taint your whole fucking movement. Both sides are now trying to blame it on extremist groups high. Like, they were saying that really the white white, not these are coming in which is hilarious. This is my opportunity. I mean if someone was smart to go. This is my opportunity to go destroy. The Black neighborhood is to join the protests and actually escalated I. Mean if they did that, I like. White Nazis are lot smarter than we think bullshit. Tif Aside listen. They might be showing up and ramping it up a little bit. I don't think they're doing the PRI-. Primary looters well, this is the thing is like look. There have been a few. You know. Look I saw some people claiming that there were. You know like saboteurs like there was controlled opposition like cops coming in and starting the riots, and I'm not above thinking that it's possible that these things happen reliably than t for though that the walls are doing it. The cops themselves go in there, and it would make sense I, understand strategically why they'd do that back to the point that I was making there certainly are Antifa. Are I absolutely no evidence that there were far right-wing white nationalists involved in this I. Don't think anyone's actually provided any evidence of that. But it also does seem to me that a lot of people. And I don't know why it. Maybe it's my Jewish background to some degree. I don't know why but I see. I I've never had this kind of like. This white guilt thing but I also don't have the like. The typical Jewish like victim mentality, either like I just kind of look like at I. Don't know I kind of try to look at every side and see what you know where they're coming from and what I think the truth is. But I I don't like like I think a lot of Jews have the kind of victim complex thing and I've never had that. I feel like oh I've like Jews have pretty good in this country, and we don't really have much to complain about, but I also don't harbor this like Oh. My God we were so bad in the past like I was like. I don't know we weren't A. A part of that so I don't know what to say so this weird kind of thing where I get some of black people's grievances, I think others are kind of bullshit, and they need to get their shit together, and then I think that white people like in many ways i. think like the fucking anti white hatred has just unfair in any anyway. I've somewhat unique perspective on this. But I do think that it's see this all around the place, and particularly amongst a white people who I know where they're just so uncomfortable. Ever blaming black people for what they do like. It's always like no. What's the narrative here? It's gotta be the ANTIFA at the white people who are doing it are no, it's you know it's It's the cops or it's this or that. The white nationalist, and maybe there's some truth to that but I mean I'm sorry. I've seen too many videos of it. It's also a whole lot of black people who are fucking assaulting people burning down buildings looting like all this shit and there is something kind of like. Racist in a kind of Infanta leising way where you're just kind. Of like well. They're very upset like. Oh, so we? We can't expect them to be civilized I mean they're upset about this thing like what? So we? Just? We just can't call out of your like they're not capable of doing any better than this. Like no fuck that they are, and you can't fuck an act this way and don't give me this shit. Like oh? Were traumatize were upset where a voiceless community or whatever it's. Up. Set about this horrible thing that happens. We have a right to do this like no, you fucking don't in the same way I mean I don't know it's like a lot of people were traumatized over nine eleven. Why isn't the war in Iraq justified? Why can't we just start bombing Iraq 'cause? We're upset about nine eleven. Oh, that's right because they didn't do it. They didn't do it, so you don't have a right to just go fucking. Kill innocent people in the same sense. You don't have a right to go fucking rob some business because cop killed a guy. Sorry they didn't do that. You don't have to start going after innocent people. One of the things I'm finding interesting. Is that with the COVID. It's going to be interesting to see if there's an alarming rate of ramped Koga because people were in social distancing, but they also can amass at the protests, which is just so you know Nice, guarany right there. Oh, it's another great point. It's just wonderful to see where you know. It was way way way back. It must have been three weeks ago. When there were those protests in fucking Michigan and another places around the world, and around the country, and they were protesting. You know we want to go back to work fucking that you know Blah Blah Blah the protesting the lockdowns and what was the whole narrative? This is so dangerous. Everyone's GonNa get covid Oh my God. It's going to be all over the place. We've completely moved on from that I. Mean That's just that's like over. And those people were like fucking keeping somewhat of a distance and cleaning up after themselves and shit. This is just people fucking brawling all over the place fucking like, but all the sudden. That doesn't even seem to be concerned. It's like Oh, a different issue of the day came up and I. Guess we're all over the covid thing now, so fucking bizarre. Every time I see these videos. These smashing a cop carts like we're just GONNA have to pay for that like they're not just going to go all right. We'll have Coccaro shit round resources. They I'll tell you that is what makes it frustrating as a fucking tax payer? And you're like well. You guys probably won't fuck and pay for it I. Guess Right I. Am I'm GonNa fucking pay for I'll also say man like I do think there's there's something and i. get this because believe me I've been there but there's something in some of the younger libertarians. Who our listeners of this show who are people who are like you know? Follow me on social media and Shit like that and a lot of them are kind of like whatever man you gotTa fucking Burn Shit Down to change the system, and you gotta all this whatever dude. We're talking rioting. This'll this'll stop things now that they're involved in the riotings, but the kind of you know the biglou crowd who cheering this shit on and and you know. It's just. Here's the thing. If you're not actually if you don't have kids and you're not paying taxes. You just don't have skin in the game in the same way that you do once you are, and I used to hate it when people would say this before I had a kid, and before I was really paying any taxes I. Mean I just really didn't make much money. But. It changes things a little bit, and you have a little bit of a different perspective when you got a kid and you're paying fucking taxes, and you're like motherfucker. I fucking forced to pay for the shit and I gotTA. Worry about fucking. Might Child growing up in this world, and that is like dude. The idea is so fucking childish and destructive Shitty to just be fucking destroying things now again I with you. I have no comment on the going after police let me just say that with a wink or nod. Okay, no comment on that, but you're right. We fucking. Thing's going to happen. Is What is burning police car going to do? They're just going to get a new one. We'll be just be more expensive. It just robbing your fellow workers like all this shit like Oh, you're going to break a storefront window. Who Do you think's cleaning that up? It's not going to be a billionaire. Who Do you think that up you literally just fucking spitting on some fucking whore working class, DUDE! That's all you're. It was cleaned that up. It's it's hector. It's not Bill Gates. fucking dude. He's got a fucking. Try to pick up the pieces that has to be done the other thing. That's real scary to me and I. Don't think this is going to happen, but I was reading an article the other day To the verge or wired one of the table there's this new book coming out from Snowden and he was. Basically breaking down some of the NSA technology on contact tracing installed to give the broad scope of what I understood of it. Basically they track every phone call record ever make. Let's say I were to do a terrorist attacks, and the government goes okay robs a terrorist like let's look at call records last five years, and then they create basically like a map of who all my contacts are. We're all those contacts are, and then you could theoretically take down a terrorist Al, because he see everyone who you're in contact with now it's. It's apparent that technology is not just running for terrorists are running abroad. It's running all the time and that's five ten years ago. Technology already willing to admit they have so who the fuck knows the extent by which they're pulling tabs on has all the time. We also know that they're tracking us where we are with our cell phones. Because they said that they can with the current contact tracing now, just hey, remotely who you're talking to on the phone with now. Who is your cell phone near at any given point in time? It'd be really interesting with this rioting looting, especially with the teeth of possibly getting the terrorist designation I'm if they start pulling people in off of phone records facebook groups, even if it's just ten people to make an examples that everyone abandons these groups that is not a win for freedom, and that's a really scary prospect of some of these. Technologies that have secretly been you know running the whole time, but they can't admit hey, we've got. He's if they started putting them to us. Yeah, no, I mean, look you're you're right, and it is not a win for freedom, and that's one of the things that's so frustrating about all of this and we'll see how far this goes, and maybe things will calm down in a few days, but I'd say it's like. Look. Who who are the losers in this situation? While obviously that? Guy George Floyd. He's A. He's a loser. In the situation, he lost his life the The fucking people who have been assaulted they're fucking. Losers in this. They fucking going to be in the hospital. Some of them critically people will die over that they'll be more debt site. I guarantee it when we figure out what's going on. There are several people in critical condition. business owners communities the people of those communities. They've been burned to the ground at these businesses. Were they shop where they work where they live? This is the this is these. Are there lots? They've lost big And you know who are the winners. It's fucking. It's the government they win. This is exactly what they want. It's like you have this fucking red handed like caught red handed example of the government, fucking abusing one of its people in a horrific manner and what ends up fucking happening well, their strategy has always divide and conquer. Could it be going any better? Better for them right now you've got fucking of black people. All fucking riled up about how fucking you know white supremacy in there. You can't walk down the street without getting killed and all this shit. You've got white people all over going like nice black people are acting like fucking animals. That's exactly what the rulers want you should everybody divided against each other? So they win, the police are going to end up winning. They're going to get budget increases and shit like that. Because all we need law and order now. So. It's like And trump trump will probably win from all of this. Because, God it say whatever you WanNa say about the guy. fucking there is plenty but he. He knows he knows how to do this. One thing and it's just getting them through the whole. He knows goat the media into taking his fucking. Like, trump will do is hell. Say and I know he does this intentionally. I know he does hell say. In exaggerated version of what is a popular opinion. And then he gets the media to snap back against the exaggeration and go. You're crazy. You're crazy. We're all the way over here. Here's your popular opinion and we're over here and he goes ha ha, I just position you to be against a popular position and I'm seen as the guy defending it so trump as something like when they start looting, we start shooting and the media's like trump's threatening. The death penalty names Baba Blah Blah. Blah and all this shit, no, my God! He would shoot American citizens, but the vast majority of normal people go like we can't just let people burn down our society so now he's positioned as being the one who's against this enormously unpopular thing, and they're all the ones you know like excusing it. You see this thing. He's evenly. You're saying. Lee is talking about labelling Antifa as a terrorist organization. There's this I am. ANTIFA Hashtag. going. To be like I am anti. Okay? That's ler. Good luck. Good luck with that one are. How are you guys almost four years into this? Still this fucking stupid that you can't not take the bait once. You can't ever realize this. Is You know how this didn't work out the last eighty six thousand times I? Don't think this one's GonNa work out frazee. They fucking can't figure. That should APP it's a it's just I. Don't know it's fucking. It's unbelievable. It's like surreal the fucking watch. All right. I'm trying to think like if there's any other angle of this that that that I wanna hit but I just I think that. There's something about The! You know the there's definitely something related to the idea that for you know the press having some culpability in in all of this and the the truth. Is that a lot of times I think that the corporate press does things for will obviously for various reasons, but I'll times. I think it's it's to score cheap political points, and it's one of the things we've said a lot of times on the show where it's like. It's almost it's terrifying because you're like. Do you not like there's two options here? It's like you fucking realized the fire. You're playing with or do you and you're doing that intentionally. I remember talking about this back. When a Donald Trump was meeting with Kim, Jong UN and when he met with Vladimir. Putin and the press is just trying to fucking like kill the fucking meeting before it happens know they're just trying everything they can to. To make trump out to be a trader or reckless all all this and you WanNa sit back, and you guys were talking about two nuclear armed countries having talk. Are you really? Would you actually risk trying to fuck this up just to score political points, and like it's kind of hard to believe that this is part of a devious plan cash like guys. Nuclear War will fucking like. That isn't good for you either you know. But look what the press has been doing for. The last three and a half years is really convincing a large portions of of the population that a Hitlerian like a leader has taken over America, you know he's a Russian agent and all of this shit. He's a racist. He's GonNa. Fuck you know, lock you guys in cages and all of this fucking Shit. And that's real. That scares a lot of people that gets a lot of real people agitated. Particularly people who are not the smartest people people who are a little Maybe off the rocker to begin with you know the type of people who are fucking. Out. They are fucking looting and vandalizing shit like that those type of people that should. That might affect them and then for the last three months. They've been terrifying everybody about this fucking virus and kicking a tons of people out of work and essentially locking people in their homes. And it's hard for me to imagine that that isn't somewhat related to everything. That's going on right now that this is coming right off of the heels of Pete like all this anxiety all this pent up. You know like aggression, and this is almost like a response in some ways, obviously the whole fucking police brutality thing was like the spark but I'm saying like the gasoline. Gasoline that's been all around here I. Think might have just been a lot of fucking. Pent up rage and people fucking being stir crazy, and now after fucking all the parks and places they go, and all the businesses being closed, and they're basically at home. This is your fucking like reemergence into fuck in the world and I think that the press has a lot of. A lot of blood on their hands and the destruction on their hands once again big shocker. All Right? I think I've pretty much rented about what I wanted to any any other thoughts from you rob. NOPE We. Can they ride again? Get back out there and have a little fun out there. Get some more stuff. All right spread around that cove in the AIDS. Get it going throughout the whole community. Let's get hurt immunity up. Everybody well as always. It's great to talk to you and we'll see you. Guys soon dates dates. Chester still happening, you're still doing vegas. That's right. I'm hosting freedom fest. In July. That's GONNA. Be fucking, awesome man! If you guys can make it out to freedom fest this year on excite, it's going to be my first one. We're good to go were moving forward with it Freedom Fest Las Vegas in July and Rochester also in July I believe right. Let's actually find out the date and start plugging it so that people are there I'm gonNA drive up all the way to Rochester. Yes, that's right. We're figure that went out. But I think me and rob are going to be Rochester, but we'll. We'll let you guys know that for sure anyway. See you next time piece.

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"Paul Larue was a criminal mastermind as an expert computer programmer. He made millions through online prescription drugs. He later graduated to guns and illicit drugs which all lead to a spectacular downfall if you enjoy these episodes and WanNa hear more like them. Check out our kingpins podcast. Every Friday we examine the leaders of organized crime rings and find out what it takes to rule the underworld follow kingpins. Free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. In early two thousand nine four men cruised a luxury yacht toward the small Filipino. Island of Sibu sitting on the back deck of the boat enjoying the Sun was a twenty six year. Old Israeli named Moran Os- Os- managed to Customer Service Call Center in Israel for a pharmaceutical company called. Rex Limited. His boss hall. Who wanted him to survey Sibu as a potential site for a new call center but is wasn't entirely sure what the other three men on the boat did at our eggs limited. Before this morning he had never met any of them before. One of them was a cheerful British man named Dave Smith. The other two brawny men with shaved heads call themselves. Jo and Chris US thought they looked like bodyguards not businessmen and as they made their way to Seibu. Dave was the one doing all the talking at one point. One of the muscular men and asked is to stand for a moment. Happy to oblige is stood up in the next thing he knew he was in the water struggle to keep his head above water but his sodden clothes weighed him down as the boat circled back. Oz told himself that he must of slipped clearly. It was some kind of accident. Oz waited for the men to toss a rescue ring for him instead. He saw a rifle pointed directly at him he turned toward Dave and his eyes widened in fear. Dave wasn't holding another gun he was on. The phone is knew exactly what was happening. His boss. Paul Larue was ordering his execution. 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This is our first episode on Zimbabwean criminal mastermind. Paul Larue Larue. Was an expert computer programmer and an early adopter of the Internet in the mid to thousands. Larue made millions through Online prescription drugs and helped contribute to the current OPIOID addiction crisis. This week will delve into Larus origins and examine what drove him to build an international prescription drug conglomerate. And he did it all from behind his laptop next week will focus on one illegal venture that represents Larousse unwieldy criminal empire a Somalian. Fishing Business. That turned into a drug manufacturing hub. And we'll see how his ambitions led him right into the hands of the. Da in early two thousand and nine thirty six year old Paul. Roux was just beginning to branch out from pharmaceuticals into more ambitious criminal. Ventures larue was high on his own power but he was also getting paranoid. That paranoia was making him distrust even his most seasoned employees. Like Call Center Manager Moran Os- Os- had no idea that he'd somehow run afoul of Larue. In fact all signs pointed to Larue liking him. After ause arrived in Manila Laura drove him out to the coast in his own. Bmw ON THE WAY. They stopped at McDonald's for breakfast. Oz knew that Laura was a rich man but he wasn't surprised by the breakfast choice. In fact ause was more surprised. Larue actually treated him. Usually when Larusso employees met him at restaurants he would only order food for himself. Their next stop was the. Subic Bay Yacht Club where Larue paid in advance for Allah's hotel room as would stay here overnight and then meet the other employees as he headed out to the island of Sibu the next morning. Oz entered his hotel room that afternoon. Feeling buoyant not only was his boss having him oversee and expansion of his company. Rx limited but he was finally treating is like a peer paying for his food and high end lodging of course was wrong. The entire story about building an RX limited call center in. Seibu had been a trap. Now Oz was in the open ocean with a rifle pointed at him. After a few seconds of gunfire took a breath of relief. He wasn't hit a voice from on-deck shouted down at him. That was to frighten off the sharks. Don't think I missed the next time will be for you. Dave Smith the talkative British man finally relaid Larousse orders from the satellite phone. He told is confess and will kill you. Keep denying it and will wound you and leave you to the sharks. Your choice is wracked his brain. What could he possibly need to confess to? He insisted that he'd done nothing wrong. He hadn't stolen from the company. He would never do anything without Larousse permission. Smith said something into the satellite phone Struggled to stay afloat while larue determined his fate after a few more tense moments. One of the muscular men climbed down the yachts ladder. And pulled is back on board is never knew what Laura said on the other end of that phone. Perhaps he only meant to scare him that day or perhaps had managed to talk his way into a stay of execution when Smith wrought is back to. Subic Bay Yacht Club. He left him with one final warning. He said we are like an octopus. We have tentacles all over the world. You need to understand that we can reach you everywhere. Even in Israel you are not safe anywhere. The following day larue picked up is to bring him back to. Manila is got into the car hesitantly. He didn't know what to expect from his volatile boss but his ride with Larue was his only way back home to Israel. Summoned the courage to ask why he'd been taken hostage and tortured larue shrugged. He claimed to know nothing about the incident but he also show no signs of surprise or concern. Instead he told is that he couldn't be held responsible for what is partners might do he said. You. Don't want to deal with these guys. They will find you do whatever they say. This was emblematic of how larue like to handle as business. He rarely solved problems personally. Preferring to issue commands from his phone or laptop he controlled the action from afar like he was playing a video game like he was God larue also like to use mixed signals and subterfuge to keep his employees off balance. No single person ever knew how their role fit into the larger operation and they never knew how larue really felt about them. So the employees were doing a wide variety of work all over the world from fielding customer service calls in Israel to transporting gold in the Congo to scouting real estate in the Philippines to assembling a militia in Somalia but despite their different skill sets they all had similar impressions of their mysterious boss. One of Laura's fixers Tim them vacuous best described. Larue as a constant threatening presence he said it was almost like the guy never slept. And you never knew which personality you'd get on the other end when he called. He never said who he was. But you knew it was him sometimes calm and other times irate and most of the time you never even knew why when Larusso employees finally met him. They didn't know what to expect because there were no photos of him on the Internet but the first thing they noticed was his size he was white about six feet tall with an enormous girth. The source of Larousse Earth was in a mystery. He was known to favour fast. Food like Domino's McDonalds at his desk rather than going out to eat a steak. In most aspects of life he prioritized efficiency over quality. He usually dressed in a T. shirt cargo shorts and flip flops. The effect was disarming. One employee said nobody has ever thought the first time they met him that he runs a global criminal empire accommodations reflected that as well. He owned a series of high. End condos in Manila but all of them were mostly unfurnished aside from a couch bid and television but they ran up. Unusually High Electricity Bills. That's because of course he was constantly running fleets of servers. We're larue was casual about his home and clothing. He was obsessive about his computer setup. He worked off an ancient laptop operating Microsoft software over ten years. Old Sounds counter intuitive but he preferred this setup because he was able to fully encrypt the entire hard drive. The moment he closed the lid of the laptop the contents would be unreachable by any outsider. Programming and encryption had preoccupied larue since his youth in fact computers were his. I love hollow. Who was born on December? Twenty Fourth Nineteen Seventy two in Bulawayo Rhodesia today known as Zimbabwe as a child. A relative said that larue quote was fought over. Everyone wanted him. Our grandparents worship the ground. He walked on when he was a teenager. Larousse family moved to South Africa in search of Better Education. Larue resented having to learn Afrikaans. The local language spoken in school he felt superior to his classmates referring to them as halfwits and Morons. His salvation came in his first computer. As soon as larue realized he could build entire worlds in code worlds were governed by his rules. He was hooked. One of the Roo's cousins remembers teenage Larue as quote completely antisocial. Every time we went there he was always hold up in his room. I remember going in and seeing lines and lines of numbers on the screen and it didn't take him long at all to figure out how coating could start bringing in money illegally of course in nineteen eighty nine. The police showed up at Larousse Johannesburg home and arrested the sixteen year old for selling pornography in these early days before the Internet it appeared. Larue had revolutionized pornography distribution by going digital but the specifics who is operation. Remain Murky to this day. What we do know for sure was that. Paul's parents were appalled but he himself just laughed. When Larue retold this story with a plumbing pride he would recall how silly the entire situation seemed to him. Everyone would have praised him if he'd found a new method of selling books or Lennon's all this fuss just because his commodity was porn as long as Larue was making money. He didn't care what he was selling and even as a teenager he didn't care about breaking the law he didn't care about exploiting others later on that instinct would have disastrous results. Not just for larue himself but also for his employees and the entire country of the United States coming up. Larue uses his coding skills to make millions selling illegal. Painkiller prescriptions and helps ignite the OPIOID epidemic. Now back to the story in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine sixteen year old Paul. Larue was arrested for selling pornography online. The arrest did nothing to diminish his interest in coding or using the World Wide Web to make money in fact he doubled down in nineteen ninety. Paul Roux dropped out of high school to dedicate himself fully to coding. He completed a years worth of coursework at South African college and just eight weeks by nineteen ninety one. He had collected programming certificates from three different training courses. Larue was ready to make moves on his own as he grew older he felt he was outgrowing South Africa. He wanted to live somewhere cosmopolitan where his skills would be recognized in the early nineties when he was eighteen or nineteen. He purchased a one way ticket to London when he arrived at the airport. He was told that his luggage was too heavy. Instead of paying the overweight fee he opened his bags and removed his clothes when the luggage went back on the scale there is nothing but coating books inside. He would travel to London with only the clothes on his back. Larue quickly secured his first job in England at B. E. I a modest software development company. Right away he prioritized his work above everything else. His early employer described him as having quote very little personality. He was against doing anything social. He had no interest in building relationships with anyone. As far as I could see larue ought he was finally living his best life completely absorbed in his work but is the nineties progressed and he continued to expand his skills as a coder. He found that his work at B. I wasn't enough to satisfy his intellect. He started working on his own project at home. In Nineteen Ninety seven twenty four year old larue began developing his own encryption software. In his free time he called it. Encryption for the masses or e four M for short up until this point encrypted files would still appear during a surge of the hard drive in fact encrypting files actually had the unfortunate side effect of showing the authorities. Exactly which files they should look at but Larousse e forum was different users could encrypt their entire hard drive or single files and the files would be completely concealed from any invaders. It was larousse very first stroke of genius. Through the software's Development Larue used coating forums on the Internet to troubleshoot issues and solicit advise when he was ready to release e four M in nineteen ninety eight. He posted the code online for free in the spirit of the early Internet. He wanted his community of coating peers to continue working on the project improving yet for the common good of course as we all know the Internet is not always a community that works toward the common. Good it's often a cesspool for the very worst of human behavior. The Internet chewed up Larousse Genius Software Code and exploited the hilt roughly two years after e forums free release. Larue found himself working for a client who was developing software that used elements of the Forum Code and Unlike. Larue the client was monetize ing it. Larue had never seen a scent of profits from the software. Larue complained about his situation on the message boards. He wrote the whole point. In the beginning of e four m was to publish the code to get peer review and help to enhance the product. In the end people climbed onto my back did not help one bit bitched. All the time stole the code for incorporation into their own products and generally abused the whole situation the abuse of Larousse. Life's work on e four. M changed him forever. He'd never trust a stranger again and a year later he learned he could never trust his family. Either ooh in two thousand to thirty year old. Larue applied to renew his passport. He was finally going into business on his own and wanted to make sure he was. Free to travel is needed but when he received a copy of his original birth certificate from Zimbabwe. He noticed something strange. The name listed under mother wasn't the woman who raised him. And where Paul Roos name should have been it said unknown when Larue called home a relative was reluctant to discuss the issue but finally they admitted that Larue had been adopted. Larue was forever haunted by the revelation. Particularly by the fact that is given birth name was just unknown. Larue wanted to be known to be someone influential but at the same time. The incident fueled his mistrust as much as he wanted to be. Famous and powerful. He would always operate in the shadows behind heavy. Encryption and Laura's first business proved that he could do just that he called his company are limited. He described the venture as an online pharmacy designed to help streamline the complicated and expensive prescription process in the United States. He claimed he wanted to help. People get their medication more quickly and easily in his words without them. Having to go through all this rigmarole the rigmarole was actually having to go to a doctor's office receive a diagnosis and get a prescription now. They didn't have to do any of that. Larue WASN'T HELPING PEOPLE. His business model wasn't that different than the porn. He sold back in the nineteen eighties. He found an untapped market. Desperate Americans looking for easy access to drugs and he was going to exploit it for most patients their first contact with our eggs limited was through email spam or at the top of search page for cheap pills or drugs online they would find legitimate looking websites with names like cheap Rx meds dot net or all the best rx dot com with banners on top touting them as trusted online pharmacy since two thousand and four and stock photos of doctors users could find anything on these sites from asthma medication to Viagra but the bulk of Rx limited sales were three drugs. Ultra Soma and fewer set. These drugs had two things in common. They were powerful painkillers with the potential for addiction. And they were all outside the scope of drugs labeled controlled substances by the DA that man Rx limited could sell them with little risk of prosecution and if any users were concerned about the legality of their transaction all of our eggs. Ltd's websites provided a soothing. Disclaimer our company is committed to meeting and exceeding all government regulations covering this new form of healthcare provision. Ace meds Dot Com will only refer your order to certified physicians that are fully licensed. That claim was mostly true after users selected their drugs of choice. They were routed to a medical questionnaire. The information they provided about their symptoms and medical history was related to a licensed physician. Those Physicians for the most part would simply hit approve after a licensed physician approved the prescription. The order was routed to an Rx limited affiliated pharmacy from there it was shipped via Fedex to the customer's door in order to prevent each individual website from being traced back to Larue and his headquarters in the Philippines. He created his own domain registrar. That registrar minted an unlimited number of website domains. He didn't have to worry about an outside domain service turning over his information to the police and when any of his sites were shut down. It only took him a few clicks to open a new one. Larue had designed his business so that he controlled every part of it in the Corporate Sector. The organization would be called a fully integrated vertical business. Just two years. After rx limited went live it was bringing in tens of millions of dollars a year in prophets when the. Da I looked into Larus setup. A few years later even they were blown away by the brilliance of his design agent. Stephen Holden said we knew he was a legitimate drug kingpin. We knew he was the real deal and he was a genius to put this all together with money. Pouring in larue relocated to Manila where local laws were favourable to international businesses? There he decided to branch out into bigger and more ambitious ventures and the next business would prove deadlier than anyone could have imagined coming up. Larue moves from the online world too. The real underworld now back to the story in two thousand and five thirty two year old. Paul Larue was making millions with his online pharmaceutical company. Rx limited but he wasn't content to run a shady online pharmacy. He wanted power. He wanted to be known in two thousand. Five larue brought on Moran is to manage one of his customer service. Call Centers Staff the center as quickly as he could but larue kept siphoning off staff for odd tasks totally unrelated to Rx limited. One recruit was spirited off to supervise a timber operation in Mozambique another was overseeing the purchase of gold directly from African mines yet. Another kept watch over his stash houses in Hong Kong. Larue was diversifying with the amount of money he was making from Rx limited. He could do whatever he wanted and his employees were along for the ride whether they liked it or not but larue knew that if he really wanted to expand his criminal horizons his Rx. Limited hires would only take him so far he needed a different kind of employees people. Who WERE FAMILIAR WITH SECURITY? Who were comfortable negotiating with foreign nationals? Who wouldn't bat an eye when larue discipline them by say throwing them off a boat. Enter Dave Smith. Dave Smith was an ex British military but his service history is body. He liked to say he was in the regiment referring to the exclusive British Special Air Services. He also claimed he worked in the United States. As a SWAT team trainer and in the late ninety s he moved into private security contract work. The most prominent work on his resume was as military advisor to the warlord President of Liberia. This experience was what really peaked lose. Interest with a man like Smith on his payroll by the end of two thousand five. Larue had military contacts all over the globe at his fingertips. His first task for them was to shore up protection at his Manila headquarters. Dave Smith and his cohorts started building relationships with all kinds of Filipino authorities. Both on local and national levels. Most of those relationships involved trading money for information and protection with the authorities paid off Larue and is growing force of mercenaries. Were able to operate out of Manila with complete impunity. One of the most legendary stories about Larousse political reach started in his bedroom he was known for his voracious sexual appetite but one night a woman refused one of his sexual demands. Instead of sending the girl back out into the night larue pulled out a baseball bat and beat her senseless until she managed to escape. It only took a few days for Larue to find out that he hadn't beat nut just another sex worker. The woman was the daughter of a Filipino. Senator if anyone else had done the beating they would have been dead. But not larue. He invited the senator to his office and offered him three million dollars as an apology. And beyond that. He offered to put the senator on his payroll in exchange. The senator would provide larue with useful. Information it word. Larue was not only able to escape any consequences but he actually turned his enemy into an ally. Larousse reputation was starting to proceed him but he was careful to keep the details of his operation under wraps almost everyone on his payroll was working in a vacuum. Even Dave Smith the closest thing larue had to a number two new only the bare minimum about the expanding company. Only one person knew how their actions connected to the whole Paul Larue often the work was perplexing or even downright pointless a former military fixer and Larousse employ. Who Will Call Mark? Wilson recalled many many times. We did things we were like. What the hell are we doing here? We didn't see the point. You ask yourself why but it's just something that just comes up in his mind and only he knows the exact reason why Wilson I learned about this idiosyncrasy during his job interview in early. Two thousand seven. He only knew the boss by his first name which he thought was Johann. When Wilson arrived at the residence three security guards searched him for weapons before he could go inside. Larue only spoke with Wilson briefly before telling him. Tomorrow you were flying to Port Moresby. Papua New Guinea is that okay apparently already had the job. Wilson didn't know anything about Papua New Guinea or why Larue was scouting out ocean front property there but he was desperate for work so we took the offer he had no idea he just agree to travel to one of the most dangerous places on the planet in the employ of an international crime. Lord in a job that Guy Weirder with each passing day sometime in two thousand eight Wilson moved into a house with two of Larousse other employees. At first the two other men were secretive about what exactly? Their role was in the company. Which is what the employees had started calling the mysterious organization but the more time Wilson spent with his new roommates who realized they were essentially an on call enforcement team. They acted on Larousse orders. No matter how violent or illegal they bragged about lucrative bonus work or wet work which Wilson learned was code for assassinations. Larue took deadly revenge on anyone who wronged him business partners and employees alike as Wilson. Leader said everybody was scared of Larue. They all knew what he was capable of and he wasn't shy to turn on you in late. Two Thousand Eight larue enlisted Wilson to participate in one of his revenge plots. Wilson was ordered to go to a Manila townhouse. Where a man named Steve? Hahn was staying. It was Wilson's job to look after Steve and make sure he didn't go anywhere. Stephen his brother. Andrew had allegedly used one point five million dollars of lose money to purchase fake gold. The brothers claimed that it was a mistake. They were the ones who'd been defrauded. The Rue pretended to accept this story in reality he was sure the brothers had scammed him out of the money but if he was going to lure them back to Manila he needed the brothers to think all was forgiven. Steve didn't realize he was in trouble until he was trapped in a safe house. With Mark Wilson. The only reason Steve was being kept alive was because Larue was hoping to get back. One point five million. He'd lost when it became obvious that he really didn't have the money. Larue lost his patience. He told Wilson they lost it. They lose their life eventually. Larue gave in and allowed Steve to leave Manila alive to try and raise the money he needed to pay back. Wilson was finally freed from his babysitting detail but not long after in early. Two thousand nine. Larue summoned him to a meeting. The Steve Han ordeal had shown. Wilson could be trusted now. The Rue had a new job for him. Something very important to the company larue. Gave Wilson is most absurd and dangerous orders yet in order to survive. He would need heavy weaponry and all his military skills. This job was unlike anything else. Wilson are Larue. Had ever attempted before. Mark Wilson was told to go to Somalia and begin construction on a tuna fishing business. Thanks again for listening to kingpins. Join US next week to find out. How Paul Roos plan to build a fishing business in? Somalia turned into a private militia for more information on Paula. Ru among the many sources used. We found Evan. Ratliff S- book. The mastermind particularly helpful. In our research. You can find. More episodes of kingpins in all other park has originals for free on spotify. Not only to spotify already. Have all of your favorite music but now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy all of your. Favorite Park cast originals. Like kingpins for free from your phone. Desktop or smart speaker to stream kingpins on spotify. 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From this is I'm Jay. A couple of weeks ago. I talked to this reporter need Evan Ratliff. Okay. So how long how have you covered technology? I have covered I've covered technologies since nineteen ninety eight. So when I started at wired magazine, I don't know that you could say I was covering it. At that time. I was a internal open the mail, but that's covering a theoretical way. I was I was party to an institution that was covering technology. Evans, really interested in people who use the internet to admit new kinds of crime and trickery cyber extortion as bounty hunters bio pirates, but for the last five years he's been working on this one book called the mastermind. It's about a guy who Evan believes could be the most prolific cybercriminals of all time a man who started out as a broke nerdy, computer programmer and an astonishingly short amount of time built this criminal empire. That span across the world sowing devastation pretty much everywhere. The guy's name is Paula ru he was born in Zimbabwe which at the time when he was born in nineteen seventy two Christmas Eve nineteen seventy two was Rhodesia. He's white. So he's was part of the minority that was at the time controlling the country. Evans says there is nothing about Paul's. Early life that gave any indication about what this guy was gonna come. He was not a bad kid. I mean, everyone says he was a good kid, and he was a sweet kid, and there were even, you know, bad kids in the neighborhood, one of whom I talked to who said, Nope. Never liked that. He talked about neighborhood bad kid. I talked to look good neighborhood gang kid. Who said, yeah, we all did that stuff. And and he was he was just like a kind of pudgy kid who was quiet and friendly and his relative loved him. And he was very smart. And then when he was a teenager Paul's family, moved to South Africa after that he started to strangle Paul went to school there. And did not like it. He didn't like the people. He didn't like the kids. He was really really upset for some reason with learning Africans as a kind of dead language, and it was really in his teens like with many teens. He started to sort of changes are kind of project an attitude of superiority, and then he got a computer. After he his cousin told me that he got a computer for washing a car and from that moment forward he became obsessed. Pasta and the rest of his teens in his early twenties. Just teaching himself everything he could about coding and then in nineteen ninety nine he goes online and releases this computer program. It's this new kind of encryption software. That's extremely powerful and extremely effective. It's called the e four m encryption for the masses. And it was quite well known in the encryption community because it was a piece of description software that lets you encrypt your whole hard-drive. But one of the things that did is that it's sort of hid the fact that you had encrypted it. Because even if you've been crippled your hard drive, if the authorities or whoever's looking knows that it is they sort of know where to look to try to break that right? It's like if there's one house on the block that has like eighty locks on the like, oh, maybe. Exactly they're trying to than they can spend all their effort trying to break in there. So it was it was strength solve that problem. And also just be a more advanced sophisticated piece of encryption software. He he incorporated a lot of different types of software and algorithms into it. And when he did so he released it as open source software. So he released it for free. He released all the source code and the idea being under the principles of open source software that other people could work on it and improve it. And when all get better. That's exactly what happened people took Paul's free software, and they've improved it. They made it better at any charged money for the things that they've made some of those people got to cash in and Paul didn't he tried to start a company that failed by two thousand one Hughes reduced to this job working for a guy who's product was actually based off Paul's work, a commercialized version of forum, and if that wasn't bad enough that guy fired Paul none of this had been the plan. He cut thought he was participating in this open source world where everyone. Each other. And then he came to feel that he never got any money at everyone was taking advantage of him. So he had really been sort of exploited in putting his code out there. And he he expressed that on message boards. What would he say? He would say he he basically said it's been nothing, but trouble, I've I've released a thing for free. It's been nothing for trouble. And also, I broke. And meanwhile, the guy who's running the commercialized encryption software company is like has a house in the Riviera and is living very high and Paula ru he gets divorced. He kinda bounces around. And then he ends up in Rotterdam, and you need someone new and he gets married, but they're living in the small apartment, and they have a kid, and they have a beat up car. And he really he wants what he's seen. These other tech. People have particularly this guy who owns this company. He wants that. And he's so far from it. Despite having created a really valuable interesting piece of software. To make matters worse. All of this was happening right at the end of the dot com. Bubble. These years were everywhere. Pollack he would have just seen the internet turning people people. Nowhere near smartest him into millionaires. Paula ru was not gonna let this happen again. This was going to be the last time anybody made a sucker out of him for a couple years. He lays low and then two thousand four he shows up online with his new venture and online pharmaceutical company and called Rx limited. This sort of pitch for the company is that in the United States. There is a really must have healthcare system and as part of that healthcare system people get prescriptions for painkillers for their back for their headaches migraines, what have you then they may be lose their health insurance? They can't get their pain meds anymore. And then they go online looking for a cheaper place to find them. So the premise of the company was to satisfy that demand. Arks LTd was going to let Americans buy painkillers quickly cheaply with very few questions asked instead of having to make an appointment some doctor and then go to a pharmacy and get their drugs positives. They would take care of it. Just putting your credit card felt a questionnaire then somewhere on the internet in American doctor will preview prescription send it to a pharmacy somewhere else in America. And then the pharmacy will just fed ex drugs right to your house that was the plan, of course, for this to work Paul needed doctors and pharmacists, so our summit started just faxing all these mom and pop pharmacies saying, hey, we have very exciting opportunity for you using the internet. We're going to help connect you with customers not just in your neighborhood. But all across America Evans, said even though pretty much the only drugs that these pharmacists are going to be asked us our addictive painkillers are exempted was really good at Mahan sound like there's nothing shady going on. So for instance, there's one pharmacist Charles Scholtz, who's this sort of seventy something pharmacist in Oshkosh, Wisconsin who has two small pharmacies their family. Around one of them's called Schultz pharmacy. And the other one's called medicine mart. And he gets solicitation from Rx limited, and he actually says well, not so sure about this. And he knows it for while. And then times get a little harder. And he sort of pulls it back out and says, you know, what maybe I will try this and he contacts them, and when he calls are limited back the obvious question. He has it's just like is there any way this operation could possibly be legal, and they say absolutely because we're not dealing in controlled substances were not dealing in substances. That are strictly speaking illegal under American law. But that's that's true. That is true. None of the three painkillers that the network dealt in mass mass quantities, none of them were controlled substances. According to the DA in the federal government, you still need a prescription for them. Right. They aren't under the same legal controls at something. Like, Oxycontin, would be your obviously heroin or marijuana anything else. And they would even say, hey, call this X D E age. Down in Florida, and he'll reassure you. And they did they had a guy who the pharmacist could call an actual Xia. No. No, he was not. But very good at playing one got it, or at least to the satisfaction of seventy year old pharmacist, you know, who would say, okay. Well, you know, what this it sounded too. Good to be true. But I guess it's not what is the even though these main painkillers aren't controlled substances. Are they things that people are abusing visit like creating misery. Yes. Something like tram at all. There are plenty of users of Trammell here who they're using it as an addictive drug like many of the stories are are the same stories that you hear on the opioid epidemic. So when the when the authorities started tracking this they would go interview people, they try to find out who is buying all these drugs, this volume of drugs who could possibly be the people they found where people who got into a car accident lost their job lost their health insurance at one point where prescribed painkillers got hooked. And then there's ordering tram it all online the orders kept coming and coming. Polera had call centers in Israel, and the Philippines, just filled with people who all day were taking orders from Americans even calling them up. Asking do you need more. This was years before the opioid crisis would become front page news in America. But the people working in these call centers they were seeing it. It was basically their business model, and it was profitable. Everybody in the chain was making lots of money, the pharmacists doctors and more than anybody else. Paul hundreds of millions of dollars. His big advantage over his competition. Was that he was able to make himself untouchable online. For instance. This thing would happen to other questionable online pharmacies where they're just have their domain names taken away like go daddy or whoever would just kill their websites for violating the terms of service that never happened to Paul what Paul Roux did was through our limited. He created a thing called AB systems, which was a domain registrar. So it was basically it was literally like he himself was like a go daddy or was go daddy. And he got officially proved by icon to be the one of two domain registrars operating in the Philippines. Not only could they protect them in that way. If something did get taken down, let's say at a different place in the stream a website taken down. They could print a thousand more than our they could just mint domains in an unlimited fashion because they were approved by I can make whatever demands they wanted. So they would have, you know, our XB biz payouts dot three four five like they they could just make add numbers. At random strings to the end and just keep making them and making them and making them, and it made it essentially impossible to take the network down. They just do it TVS. Yeah. It was brilliant. And what like at the height apol- success like how much of the online pharmacy. Margaret was just his there was one estimate at the time that half of the domains on the web that were devoted to internet pharmacies. Rogue internet pharmacies were actually are limited. So it was potentially responsible for half of all of the. Gray black market distribution of pharmaceuticals on the internet again possible to know the exact numbers if you ask anyone who was looking at like spam or pharmacies at that time AB systems was the absolute juggernaut almost from the beginning. Like in two thousand eight pas new business completely transformed his life. He's able to move with his wife and kids to the Philippines. Great weather lax regulatory environment. He's bought a luxury penthouse kind of and then another and then another he has more money than he could ever spend. After a few years of this Paul like anybody who's outrageously successful in a somewhat shady business faces two options one he can take his somewhat shady business and just make it up of board. Like make sure that the doctors are actually reviewing all the prescriptions. Like they're supposed to in that case, he probably makes a little less money or he just keep doing what he's doing. And hope that he doesn't get in. Trouble policies is a third option and nothing that happens next makes any sense, according to my understanding of how the world works. This is where the life of polaroid becomes completely absurd. Paula Roo decides to grow and expand into new businesses. He decided that he knows exactly how to put his wealth to use. People who advised him would say, hey invested in this or branch out into this. But he decided well if I branch out into cocaine trafficking, and meth trafficking and moving gold across Africa closer, very high margin businesses, and I can make five thousand percent return on my money instead of eking out five percent at some, you know, some boring call center business, I can really really maximize my money and to what's his first step into sort of that like going from being like, okay, I'm a businessman who is very good at the internet to like darker. The first step was probably he hired this guy named Dave Smith who was a former soldier from the UK. He's actually from Northern Ireland, and he was operating the Philippines. There's all these. Security companies that sort of provide protection for projects physical protection and building a dam or something like that. And Dave Smith was a guy who had worked in Iraq. He'd worked in Afghanistan. He had a whole network of sort of mercenary ex-soldiers who were willing to do. Pretty much anything as it turned out for a salary of ten thousand dollars a month. Dave Smith sort of said, hey, I can open up this whole world for you. Now, I can give you the ability to project your growing power all over the world and the rue jumped at that opportunity. So that included starting to do gold purchases in Africa to launder money. So how would that work? He would send guys. I mean, all of this stuff sounds insane. Because one of one of the things that's so remarkable about him is he would just send people to do something that had come out of his head. So he had an idea in his head. And then he would say, hey, go go try to do this. And if they failed you descend another guy at another guy and another guy until either worked or maybe it was a bad idea to begin with. But like he was like he's doing this remotely because like he's playing a video game. Like, it's like. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, he's sitting at his laptop does not leave his house, very often. He works as many hours in a day as you could possibly work and sleeps, maybe a few hours. Day. He's got a beat up old windows machine that he is outfitted exactly how he wants it. With exactly the encryption software that he has written to make sure that he can hold everything on there. And it's all protected so for the gold, for instance, he would just send a guy to like acros in Ghana and say, okay, we're going to buy some black market gold. Literally ex US soldier sent to acros with a big bag of money walking around saying who's got gold. Really? Yes. And so then they would you can find the crazy thing is it works like you can find somewhere. Well, you start. I mean it starts with. They just talked to a taxi driver. I mean, there's a known black market for gold. So there's there's there's wherever there's gold mining. There is also an urban center where people are siphoning off gold from the mines, and it's ending up being sold in sort of back alley so to speak. But it's like, you would expect that the way that story and is like when your friends go to a city for the first time and trying to buy weed and they end up with. Think a bag of oregano, or whenever you know, what I mean like you shouldn't just be able to send somebody to go buy gold. I agree. Sometimes it would go that way. And so all the mercenary guys that I talked to you know, they would have a story about oh, this one guy, you know shy. Rueben they sent Shire Ruben into the Congo and Cheyrou and had a bag of money. And he just got jacked as soon as he arrived at the airport. Really? You can't just show up in the Congo with a bag full of money and expect not to get jacked, but you can send a couple of guys into the Congo who I figure out weapons and security and safe houses and contacts, and then you send the guy with the bag of money, and when he shows up at the airport there are two guys with automatic weapons were there to offer him into a safe house to then provide the money to get the gold, and the gold is driven across borders in a pickup truck or an SUV with like five guys who are ex US military, British military, South African military guys who their entire job. Is to protect this gold. So that's how they did it. It really is like he thinks he's playing a video game. And it's like he tried the level once it didn't work. And it's almost like he's thinking like, oh, I just need to upgrade my weapons we're like sending more guys it is a video game. And he was operating his video game. It was sort of like some combination of set video game. And then like I'm trying to think of good example, maybe the SIMS where what's that one on? My nephews played were you build Minecraft Minecraft where you can make your own rules to you, can you can create worlds. So the crazes example of that is that he tried to start essentially, his own militia in Somalia, and he just from the Philippines. He was just like, you know, it was a good place to go Somalia because the government there has no control of the environment. And if I were to set up an operation there, I could operate entirely lawlessly like do whatever I wanted. So he said about creating what was extensively a fishing a tuna fishing operation, a tuna fishing in Somalia. Okay. Which is actually not a terrible idea, by the way. So I didn't know this. But I haven't told me that tuna-fishing is actually a very lucrative industry. And apparently through lots of fishing off the coast of smelly, but it was all foreign fishermen, which not everybody in Somalia light. And so some people actually start going out in capturing the boats. That's apparently how Smalley pirates for speaking thing. Anyway. Now, there's a lot less big commercial boats fishing. And if you're Paula ru all of this is somehow just something, you know, and Paula ru always looking for a market an opening an opportunity, he said, you know, what I bet there's it's just teeming with fish there. So if we set up a fishing operation, and we just coordinated with the pirates we buy them off. We can use them for protection, we can protect them. We have our own forces than we could fish for tuna there. So is super power like a combination of his lots of ideas for legal things to do. And he's very ideas. Like, what is why why is he the person who has does it? Whereas like another person, even like another criminal doesn't do it. I think. The combination of he made so much money in this pharmaceutical business that he really had the ability to kind of just splash it around on crazy ideas. So he really was like, you know, his version of like, Richard Branson, or actually better examples his version of Ilan mosque who's sort of you know, now, I'm going to start this. Now, I'm going to start them as our tesla. I'm gonna start this his version of that was hey, why not Somalia, hey, why not gold mining? Hey, why not arms dealing? He. That's where he wanted to splash his money around. He thought I can be the biggest global criminal in history. Evan actually managed to get a patient of what Paul was like as a CEO. Turns out kind of annoying like he had too many ideas, for instance, in Somalia, he never even gets the tuna fishing. He decided that was gonna take too long. So instead, he flew in a botanist to try to see if you could grow poppies and cannabis in Somalia stuff like that completely frustrated his militia, plus he was just a micromanager. He call you up in the middle of the night and have some complaint about the gold deal you were doing, and that's just not what the CEO should be spending time on the Cosa delegate that and how did his mercenary hitman feel about getting hassled by like the computer nerd, boss who's micromanaging them? Well, they didn't like it. But a lot of them the mercenary guys they were like this is better than working in Afghanistan or rock like right something thought, it was incredible fun. They're getting paid ten thousand dollars a month flying around the world doing crazy shit, and they couldn't get enough of it. And how would he hire? Like, how do you pick? Which mercenaries? There's a good mercenaries. They would do through networks networking Dave Smith just had contacts who'd worked with him at dif- like crucible like a like a security contractor that's contract to work in Iraq. So he's got people that he can Email and say have a rich guy this rich guys paying really good money for gray area work shop in the Philippines. We'll have a meeting if he likes you. We'll hire you. That's how they would do it. So it's like it's not like they're on Lincoln like it's like informal word of mouth phone calls. Well, the they did not hire Lincoln. But it is like they were on lenton. Really? Yeah. As a matter of fact, will so they had they would have front companies. So they had a. Company echelon, echelon or southern ace was the name of the company that operates Somalia, they would take resumes. You submit your resume echelon resume says, I have, you know, close protection combat experience. And so when I started looking for these guys I at first I was like, I'll never find these mercenaries. How can I find them? They're holed up somewhere. If they haven't been arrested there in hiding, literally went on Lincoln typed in southern ace. And a guy just comes up. He's just got southern ace on his resume as a place that he worked. That's he's described the work in a way, that's very sort of sounds vaguely like it's any other security company provided production for projects in Papua, New Guinea and management of equipment. And like what I found out that he did was he burned another operation. They had a timber operation in Papua New Guinea, he burned the other operation to the ground the competitive operation, and like the guy that worked for southern as he. A hitman. He was hired by the rue as his personal hitman under a company called southern as he just put it on his resume head southern as like human troubleshooting hitman. Exactly. That's so wild. It's weird. Also, I guess I never thought of it. But just that there is like a that. It's an industry. Do you know what I mean that there's like a world of people who kind of know each other and used to work together. And like, oh that guy's great. That guy's terrible. It's just strange that a computer nerd finds himself in that industry. I think that was one of the things that was so remarkable to me was how you could get into so many worlds so easily. Evan found a bunch of early Usenet posts the Paul wrote. He doesn't come across someone with something like special insight into the world beyond coding software. He actually comes across as super blinkered misogynist racist has an idiotic serotype for every country. So turns out here's what happens when you give misanthropic internet access to lots of funds and lots of mercenaries he's moving cocaine and meth throughout the world, he's selling weapons to Iran at one point even considered an armed coup of the government in the Seychelles twenty ten. He's already gone a long way to making sure that none of this stuff can trace back to his business. It's just a web of shell companies. And he's even started to a race his name from the internet. And in the real world. 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And when you're ready to launch save ten percent on the purchase of your first domain by using the offer code reply that squarespacEcom offer code reply. So the story of how Paul the rue would eventually be caught it started slowly, and it started far away in two thousand seven in an office building in Minnesota there these two obscure DA investigators whose whole job is basically just to regulate pharmacies in the US. They were what you call diversion investigators which means they're not like DEA agents. They don't carry guns. They don't bus peoples cocaine and things like that. They only investigate the diversion of prescription drugs onto the legal market. That's their job got it. So Kimberly Brill and Stephen Holdren. They would raid pharmacies pharmacies that were selling control drugs online. So one day they're investigating a suspicious pharmacy in Chicago. This place called geld garden. I'll garden is part of Paul's rogue pharmacy empire. But they don't know that all they know is. Alcl garden is shipping way too many painkillers and Kimberly Brel wants to know exactly how many into who. And so she subpoenas all killed FedEx account. And when she does she sees something that catches her completely. Surprise. The FedEx account is being shared with dozens of other pharmacies all across the United States. It's like the shady pharmacy version of eighty people who all use the same net flicks password. So it's like someone got a hold of a FedEx number accountants like shared with all their friends, and everyone's shipping on it. Which is really sloppy. Like argument summit is having multiple pharmacies in their network like share logging, basically, basically. Yeah. So that's when those investigators realized oh now, we can see that the other entity are ex limited is the thing behind all of this were they surprised at just to realize they to me like maybe bigger than what they've been looking for. They were stunned when Kimberly Brill opened up this spreadsheet. She was basically said oh my God. This is unbelievable and like called her partner Stephen holder, and it's like you have to come look at this right now because they think they knew that a network might evolve multiple pharmacies, but the volume of shipments that were happening was just staggering. And we we're talking about tens of thousands of drug orders that are happening. All on the same FedEx account and to this were the game of cat-and-mouse really starts because she knows that. There's a network, but she has no who's running it. And by her own admission, she and her partner are not internet experts. So in order to understand what are excellent is up to that to teach themselves how the internet works. They have to learn about like domain registrars and IP addresses pure locations. It's funny because they're learning they they understand drug dealing and they're trying to learn the internet. He understands the internet and is learning like real life, drug dealing and he's operating with hundreds of millions of dollars. Whatever equipment. He wants anything. He wants to buy Novye accuracy. And they're operating in cubicles in its Howard Minneapolis with liberal notebooks like five or seven notebooks where they're keeping ledgers on everything they found and like an old desktop, computer. And they're taking on this man and his network online Paul's network doesn't look like a network. It looks like an infinite number of unrelated spammy pharmacy websites. But when Kimberly and her partner map, it all out there is even though there's all these websites when you actually buy the drugs like at checkout, you get redirected to a payment page, and that payment page is only hosted at one of two different places and to they subpoena one of those domains this place called systems CA sin. So that was a sort of centralized point where they say, okay. Where's that hosted? They found it hosted at a place in Canada. They could get a subpoena to go in there. And try to get the information off who's paying for this. And they came across the name Paula ru he just put his name as like the the owner when he first started. He put his name on everything. He's real what it was going to be. He didn't know what is going to be. He didn't know what else he was going to be doing. He didn't know the extent to which he was going to be tracked by the US. Authorities all over the world he figured it out later, and he started taking his name off of everything. And actually one of the investigators involved basically said to me if he had done that a little bit earlier he would be free today. And they. I don't understand at this point. I guess that the thing that they're looking at is the least shady thing that he probably does at this point. Yeah. At the beginning. I mean, he wasn't doing as many shady things at the time. They first started looking thousand seven two thousand eight he was just getting into real serious other types of crime. But then they would start to see these just these anomalies that they couldn't understand like they couldn't understand why he's making phone calls to Somalia, he's not running a fucking pharmacy in Somalia, and so these species like slowly started to cohere because it was almost impossible to believe that he was involved in the scope of things that they eventually discovered like you wouldn't sit there and be like, oh, you know, what we should look into whether or not he's buying meth out of North Korea. I wonder if he's trying to take over a country. We was he really buying method of North Korea. He was buying with North Korea. How does that work? That's that's classic Paula Roux. He had he had a guy who worked for him. He's actually a bartender. He owned a bar in Manila. And then the guy came to him and said, hey, look, I know this man, and this man has contacts in the Chinese. Ads in the in the organized crime in Hong Kong, and you talk to them. And so Lou goes and talks to him in this guy had the part tender guy, it's like his brother's friend or something. And eventually it comes to light that actually the man does have contacts he is part of organized crime in Hong Kong, and he knows how to get method of North Korea. So they start up an operation figuring out how they're going to get it out of there where it's gonna go. It seems like they bought fifty kilos initially. And then eventually he bought a ton and literal ton. I mean a little ton it's manufactured by under the direction of the state in North Korea. And so it's like ninety nine point nine percent pure. It's like a purist math in the world. And so that was one business that he had was getting some math out of North Korea. Actually, tried to buy a submarine from North Korea's well because he wanted us to ship stuff. And because why not? Yeah. And you've essentially how he was feeling like was he enjoying it was he likes? Stressed that? Like, what does the experience of this like for this guy who started in a very different place in his now remote micromanaging a burgeoning drug empire. I sort of think like any CEO of something that becomes massive and sprawling, and you're trying to keep it entirely under your control that there were times when he was frankly doing the thing he had always dreamed of like he loved deals he loved making deals that bigger deal the better, and he would talk with this sort of satisfaction about how many deals he had going on in all of these different industries. It's like he had diversified his company just just succeeding in so many areas. But then I also I got a hold of a lot of chats that he had with his cousin and in those chats, you can also see the stress that comes with that. You know, he owes people money and people oh him money, and there's violence involved in it starts to get very serious. And that is wearing on him. And he will periodically say, hey, I need a I need a death certificate because I need to disappear, and I need people to think that I'm dead. And then he. He'd see sort of worked through whatever problem that was and he doesn't need the desert of get anymore. Forget the death certificate. Yeah. Then six months later. He's like I need a surface to air missiles. So we got to service. You know, he's just cut flake always always churning, and there's one cents in which that's what he was born to do. And there is nothing more satisfying than that. And there's another since which it seems like the world was kind of closing in on him by two thousand eleven two thousand twelve Evans says that by this point Paul just started to lose it. He got very paranoid and very bloodthirsty for years. He'd used Dave Smith his chief mercenary into threatened people some employees who thought could talk to the cops or somebody who thought its own money. But now he just one of those people killed and the list of people who should be killed kept expanding. It wasn't just people who are threats to Paul. It was anybody who crossed him his cousin owed him. Fifty grand? Paul had his house. Firebombed a real estate agent losses money to deal. He had her murder. So he really kind of like got so deep into his head on betrayal that he would just have anyone. He would have anybody. Anyone anyone killed his hitless included people who owed him a thousand dollars really you made hundreds of millions of dollars. And he had a woman on his hitlist another real estate agent who had supposedly built him for a thousand dollars. It's insane. What's the closest he got to like the things he was doing like, what's the part where he was most actually like not directing a video game of violence. The closest he got was he participated in three of the murders that he ordered. So he had this South African hit man, and he was kind of his personal hitman. So you had a security team. But then he had his personal hitman who nobody else knew about. So he could use him carry out murders that he didn't want anyone in the rest was. To know about those murderers involved people in his operation itself. So fringy to hitman to kill your hitman. You need medical your hitman. And that's exactly what he did. He used the South African hitman to kill Dave Smith who was his head of hitman operation sly. Well, Dave Smith had gotten very frustrated that he was not making more money. So he was doing all the dirty work for Larue and had gotten him into all this drug dealing all these lucrative ventures and gotten them all these mercenaries felt that he wasn't getting paid enough was also using a lot of drugs, and he started stealing from the rue. He started stealing gold. Lou laundered a lot of money and gold, and they hit it all over the Philippine. So Dave with was digging it up and selling it borrowing so to speak from Larue to feed increasingly expensive appetites 'cause Larue had said don't buy fancy cars don't buy fancy watches. We're low profile. We don't want any attention. So this guy's driving up and down the main drag of the red light district in Manila in. Lamborghini like, it's not it wasn't a secret. Right. So he was out there going crazy. He just didn't care. And I think probably because he thought I'm Louis hitman. Was he going to do order me to kill myself? Right. But Lou had another hitman. And so they lured him to a piece of property in the south of the main island of the Philippines, Manila is he had a kind of a beachfront property there under the guise that they were gonna bury some gold. So they brought Dave Smith there, and then the South African guy shot him. And then it became kind of like black comedy in a way. Like, the guy's gun jammed days Smith was still alive, and they were trying to get the gun on jammed, and then some dogs ran onto the scene chasing off the dogs. And then they got the gun on jammed and shot him in the rue also had a gun. So the roof shot him too. And that was a moment where it felt like when I learned about that that he he had gone so far that he really wanted to. Participate in that element of the business. But then, you know, I interviewed this hitman, and he was like, and then Larue, you know, he could have fucking killed me. Like he was like shooting this crazy automatic weapon. All over the place is no idea what he's doing. And I'm lucky I wasn't killed because I'm standing right across from him. And then he handed me a role of lake plastic wrap and was like wrap up the body and hitman being experienced hitman was like your fucking out of your mind. Like, we've got to like wrap up this body and something bigger and then like dump it in the ocean. And that's what they did. Although that it wouldn't sink. So then Larue like got in the water and like cut holes in it. So it would sink. Yeah. There's something so bizarre about Larousse sort of amateurish approach to killing people, and it's all really like someone who's been playing a first person shooter who suddenly is in the real world doing first person shooting. Yeah. And really has no idea what they're doing. Eventually they were able to dispose of day Smith's body. And then they killed two other people in sort of similar way. As at that point, like how many years away from having just been a guy who invented some encryption software that was open source from the encryption thing he's he's a decade away. Like in a decade. He went from a guy who was making open source software for this community and also going on message boards and saying, hey does anyone have contract programming? They need done. I can do it. I'm great. You can see my resume. He went from that to being a guy who is, you know, killing his longtime number two deputy and dumping his body in the ocean. And this is sort of impossible to answer. But do you think that that person was always inside him? That's I've really puzzled over that. And I've tr- I've in some ways tried to refrain from from being the person who cycle psychoanalyze as him. I mean, if you interview anyone in his orbit they will provide that kind of analysis and say either. Yeah, he was like the nerd kid who everyone beat up and so he was forever taking vengeance on the world. So he was always that. And then other people will say he was not he was the sweetest kid and teenager and even young adult and actually something changed in him. But he kind of like went down a path that led him to exercise impulses that he may be already had some version of like he would always felt sort of superior to other people intellectually, and then that just gets metastasized within this network where he also feels like that's part of business killing people is how you work in this business. That's just. Bad. If you want to be in this business, you gotta kill people. Can see why this? This is a video from the day that Paul was arrested. All. He's in a hotel room in Liberia sank into a big red vinyl couch. He's got a shaved head oversize Royal blue polo. He's almost forty years old. And he's there to make a deal with the head of Colombian cartel. Pause. Gonna help him build a meth facility in Liberia. He just sent them the precursor chemicals. We're ready said if you. This week. A man here too. I want to apologize delays. Actually, we went to ship. It out is always relations, complain refining and shoot it out without missing the conversation moves on for math to coke to drug kingpin, small talk politics. He starts telling this cartel guy about Dave Smith about the murder about why he got so pissed off. Astle? So. Five five million by the this motherfucker. So can you believe that ASO or himself? Say these Mercedes excess defy Jeep. Yeah. Yes. We ended off. What else did he has great? This is your office bigger than my. No it, but all the people in the room, laughing sycophantically, they're recording for the DA the cartel boss is actually a paid informant. What had happened was that months before this meeting Paul had relocated, some of his criminal operations to Brazil? He wanted to traffic cocaine out of South America. The problem was the Minnesota DA investigators that he gets way better cooperation from the Brazilian authorities, and they ever could in the Philippines. They got wiretap on his cell phone. They were following him. All over the place, they were reading his emails and his tax. And so at that point they were really starting to get information. They'd never been able to get and he was talking about all of his businesses drugs. Huge amounts of drugs. Moving out of South America. He was talking about the pharmacy business money laundering. All of it. Evans said now way more people the DA were excited about trying to arrest. Paul the nine sixty group, which is the DA's elite nocco terrorism squad full of agents with actual guns and badges and real resources. Now, they jumped onto the case after a long time of not being interested. They became interested in trying to catch Larue and. And so they took over the job of actually catching him to do that they set up an elaborate sting operation which required that they find an insider from the organization who could help them lure him into basically a fake drug deal. And they found a guy who had worked for the REU who had actually contacted the US government trying to turn in Larue. But no one had ever paid attention to his Email, and how often does that happen? But apparently a lot because there were multiple people who worked for the REU who attempted to contact you. And these people didn't hear from anyone for like, six months. But now they wanted to arrest him, which meant setting up a sting operation the tree part about that was actually just finding a way to get pot physically. Come to the meeting to go in person to a drug deal that wasn't Paul style. Remember, this is a guy wants to do everything remotely. But the way they got him. There was by playing to his ego. They told them this is a Boston Boston this powerful Colombian cartel had wants to meet his equal in person. And as paranoid. Cautious. As Paul was on the internet. It turned out that in the room, not so much. It was like immediately. He was just talking so much. He was showing off his whole criminal operation. Like he was nerdy kid talking about his prize winning science project to his mom's new boyfriend. We. Beans, and we also buy from the Chinese will getting it from both Korea quantity that you cite very that. One. Does the very does his OSs. Until you that. But later all talk about it doesn't fucking. It's clear that he gets off on making these deals and being an international operator. I mean, it's it's incredible power trip. That was interesting because it's almost like the disgusting little lake jolt. You get in your brain. When you name dropping you like brag that you like saw some celebrity on the street or something it's like he gets that. But for buying like North Korean math, right? Right, right. If you felt like you could, you know, go anywhere in the world, and sort of meet with high level people like I could see that that would be you would feel like, oh like look at the power that I have at my fingertips the sting operation was a success Paul left, a meeting the hotel room got back to his own hotel and was arrested. They throw them on a plane and extradited him to the US he started cooperating before the plane had even landed. But what happened next confounded a lot of people who follow this, especially Evan. So he said the Minnesota DA actually lost control of the case that elite squad that nine sixty unit. They took over for some reason that team along with the federal prosecutors in New York, they said to go after Paul's organization in this very unusual way. Normally the way the government arrested dry kingpin is they try to get the lowest level people in the organization, the arrest them, they offer them leniency to turn on their bosses, and they just moved their way up. But in Paul's case, they did the opposite. The government offered Paul. Paul what Evans says was generous cooperation deal in order to use him as a witness against his own underlings. For instance, all the operators of the pharmacy business where you say, okay. These are people who were some of them scared for their lives working for Larue if you had gone to them and said, hey, will you come through American testify against Paul Roux? They would've jumped at that opportunity. And instead they were using Paul Roux in custody to lure these people, for instance, out of Israel to Romania. So they could be arrested and brought here and prosecuted the garment strategy created a very bizarre spectacle. So picture. That's okay. It's fall of twenty thirteen you've got pre Perera who at the time is the US attorney for the southern district New York. Now, he's a podcast house. He is doing this press conference where he's announcing these huge arrested. They've made the bone chilling allegations. In today's indictment read like they were ripped from the pages of a Tom Clancy novel, the charges tell tale of an international ban of mercenary marksman who enlisted their elite military. Training to serve as hired guns for evil ends. He talks about these murderous contract killers who they've nabbed. But what he doesn't talk about who these guys are working for all five defendants allegedly worked to help import hundreds of kilograms of cocaine into the United States. He doesn't talk about Paul even though they had him in custody. And the reason was that they'd ended up in a situation where they couldn't actually charge him for the worst. If what he done for the murders, the evidence that they gathered about those murders a lot of it came from Larue. So they would say we'll we wouldn't even know about these murders. If he hadn't told us if he hadn't given him the plea deal in the first place, and then you can't charge him with what he tells you under the cooperation agreement now, again, there's two sides of the DA on this and the ones that investigated Liu for very long time say that's bullshit. They say you didn't have to just flip him. You could have done it the way we do it traditional operation, which was get the lower level people to talk about the high level people. So there's. Dispute there, and it's hard to even fully measure the scope of all the damage Paul caused all the countries or as mercenaries ran amok, Somalia. The Philippines, pursell all the painkillers. He pumped into America. Whatever it was it feels like it was bigger than what anybody got punished for. As far as anybody knows? It's not like policy able to flip on some big fish above him. No, Iranian arms dealers went to jail. No big time meth manufacturers. Paul himself has now been in custody for seven years, but he hasn't even been sentenced Evans says it might happen in the next few months. What do you think will happen? Like, what do you what do you expect his sentence? L? Like, I I'm I'm scared of predicted. Because I've heard everything you people involved like agent at the nine sixty group has been a lot of Tyler Larousse said, I think he said, you know, he'll get ten and he's already served almost seven thirty seven this year. So the surf three more he'll get out, and they'll never by the United States again who probably go back to his business, but he'll never mess with us again. And that's the person who worked to catch Larue and have him prosecuted and then worked with him in a cooperation scenario to catch all these other people. So whether or not that's what the judge will think is I mean, that's not an implausible scenario to me that that would happen. But then it seems like three years from now. Now if he's back out in the world. It's really hard to imagine him changing his behavior. Like, it feels like he would just pick up where you left off. It's it's almost impossible to imagine. I mean, certainly when I saw him testify for many, many hours at one point. He said I'm trying to turn over a new leaf. And it was the most unconvincing cliche. I have ever heard someone utter like it was actually dripping with the opposite feeling like he's not actually trying to turn over relief. Now, there's certainly not any evidence that you can see from the outside that would make any sense that he would do anything other than go back into business. In fact, Evans said Paul doesn't even seem to be waiting until it gets out of prison. 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The Zimbabwean Mastermind Pt. 1: Paul Le Roux

Kingpins

37:09 min | 10 months ago

The Zimbabwean Mastermind Pt. 1: Paul Le Roux

"In early two thousand nine four men cruised a luxury yacht toward the small all Filipino island of Sibu sitting on the back deck of the boat enjoying the Sun was a twenty six year old. Israeli named Moran Oz is is managed. Customer Service Call Center in Israel for a pharmaceutical company called Rx limited. His Boss Hall of Rua wanted him to survey Sibu as a potential site for a new call center but is wasn't entirely sure what the other three men on the boat did at our eggs. Limited batted before this morning he had never met any of them before. One of them was a cheerful British man named Dave Smith the other tube sube Ronnie men with shaved heads call themselves Jo and Chris us thought they looked like bodyguards not businessmen and as they made their way to Seibu. Dave was the one doing all the talking at one point. One of the muscular men asked is to stand for a moment. Happy happy to oblige stood up. And the next thing he knew he was in the water Struggle to keep his head above water but his sodden clothes weighed him down as the boats circled back. Oz told himself that he must have slipped. Clearly it was some kind of accident. President is waited for the men to toss a rescue ring for him instead. He saw a rifle pointed directly at him he turned toward Dave and his eyes is widened in fear. Dave wasn't holding another gun. He was on the phone is knew exactly what was happening. His boss. Paul Larue was ordering his execution. I'm how hard it and I'm kate. Leonard and this is kingpins a podcast original every Friday. We journey inside. The ranks thinks of organized crime rings from Street gangs to mafiosos to understand how a kingpin or Queen Pin Rises to the top of the underworld. And why they fall as we follow the lives of infamous crime bosses will explore how money and power change them and how it changed the community around them. You can find episodes of kingpins in all other podcast originals for free on spotify. Or wherever. You listen to podcasts. To stream kingpins for pre three on spotify just open the APP tap browse and type kingpins in the search bar at par cast. We're grateful for you our listeners. His you allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network. And if you enjoyed away. Today's episode the best way to help us to leave a five star review. Wherever you're listening it really does help us? This is our first episode on Zimbabwean in Criminal. Mastermind Paul Larue. larue was an expert computer programmer and an early adopter of the Internet in the mid. Two thousand larue made millions through online prescription drugs and helped contribute to the current OPIOID addiction crisis. This week will delve into Larus Larousse origins and examine what drove him to build an international prescription drug conglomerate and he did it all from behind his laptop. Next week we'll focus on one illegal venture that represents Larousse unwieldy criminal empire a Somalian fishing business that turned into the drug manufacturing hub. And we'll see how his ambitions led him right into the hands of the. Da in early two thousand nine thirty. Six Year Old Paul Roux was just beginning to branch out from pharmaceuticals into into more ambitious criminal. Ventures larue was high on his own power but he was also getting paranoid. That paranoia was making him distrust. Trust even is most seasoned employees like Call Center Manager Moran Oz as had no idea that he'd somehow run afoul of Larue. In fact all signs pointed to Larue liking him after ause arrived in Manila larue drove him out to the coast in his own. BMW AM W on the way they stopped at McDonald's for breakfast. Oz knew that larue was a rich man but he wasn't surprised by the breakfast choice. In in fact is was more surprised that larue actually treated him usually win. Larousse employees met him at restaurants he would only order food for himself so their next stop was the Subic Bay Yacht Club where larue paid in advance for houses hotel room. Oz would stay here overnight tonight and then meet the other employees as he headed out to the island of Seibu. The next morning is entered his hotel room that afternoon feeling buoyant. Not only was his boss having him oversee and expansion of his company are limited but he was finally treating is like a peer paying for his food in high end lodging of course as was wrong the entire story about building an Rx limited call center in Sibu had been in a trap now as was in the open ocean with a rifle pointed at him. After a few seconds of gunfire fire. Oz took a breath of relief. He wasn't hit a voice from ondeck shouted down at him. That was to frighten off the sharks. Don't think think I missed the next time will be for you. Dave Smith the talkative British man finally relaid Larousse orders from the satellite phone. When he told is confess and will kill you? Keep denying it and will wound you and leave you to the sharks. Your choice is wracked his brain. What could he possibly need to confess to? He insisted that he done nothing wrong. He hadn't stolen Dolan from the company he would never do anything without Larousse permission. Smith said something into the satellite phone Struggled to stay afloat while larue rude determined his fate after a few more tense moments. One of the muscular men climbed down the yachts ladder. And pulled is back on board is never knew what Larue said on the other end of that phone. Perhaps he only meant to scare him that day or perhaps as had managed managed to talk his way into a stay of execution when Smith brought is back to Subic Bay Yacht club he left him with one final warning. He said we are like an octopus. We have tentacles all over the world. You need to understand that we can reach you everywhere aware. Even in Israel you are not safe anywhere. The following day larue picked up is to bring him back to Manila as got into the car hesitantly. He didn't know what to expect from his volatile boss but his ride with Larue was his only way back home to Israel Summoned the courage to ask why he'd been taken hostage and tortured larue shrugged. He claimed to know nothing about the incident but he also showed no signs of surprise or concern. Instead he told is that he couldn't be held responsible for what is partners might do he said you. Don't want to deal with these guys. They will find you do whatever they say this. This was emblematic of how larue like to handle as business. He rarely solved problems personally. Preferring to issue commands from his phone or laptop up he controlled the action from afar like he was playing a video game like he was God larue also like to use mixed signals and subterfuge fused to keep his employees off balance. No single person ever knew how their role fit into the larger operation and they never knew how larue through really felt about them lose. Employees were doing a wide variety of work all over the world from fielding customer service calls in Israel L. Transporting gold in the Congo to scouting real estate in the Philippines to assembling a militia in Somalia but despite their different skill assets. They all had similar impressions of their mysterious boss. One of Larousse. fixers tim them back as best described Larue as a constant threatening threatening presence he said it was almost like the guy never slept and you never knew which personality you get on the other end when he called he never said who he was but you knew it was him sometimes calm and other times irate and most of the time you never even knew why when Larousse employees finally met him. They didn't know what to expect because there were no photos of him on the Internet but the first thing they noticed was his size is he was white about six feet tall with an enormous girth. The source of Laura's girth wasn't a mystery. He was known to favour fast. Food food like Domino's McDonalds at his desk rather than going out to eat a steak in most aspects of life he prioritized efficiency over quality. He usually dressed in a T.. Shirt cargo shorts and flip flops. The effect was disarming. One employee said nobody has ever thought the the first time they met him that he runs global criminal Empire Larousse accommodation's reflected that as well. He owned a series of high. End condos in Manila Hilla. But all of them were mostly unfurnished aside from couch bid and television but they ran up unusually high electricity bills. That's that's because of course he was constantly running fleets of servers. We're larue was casual about his home and clothing he. He was obsessive about his computer setup. He worked off an ancient laptop operating Microsoft software over ten years. Old sounds announce counter intuitive but he preferred this setup because he was able to fully encrypt the entire hard drive the moment he closed the lid of the laptop laptop the contents would be unreachable by any outsider. Programming and encryption had preoccupied larue since his youth in fact act computers were his. I love Paul was born on December. Twenty Fourth Nineteen Seventy two in Bulawayo Rhodesia Asia today known as Zimbabwe as a child a relative said that larue quote was fought over. Everyone wanted him. Our grandparents grandparents worship the ground. He walked on when he was a teenager. Larousse family moved to South Africa in search of better education larue resented and having to learn Afrikaans. The local language spoken in school. He felt superior to his classmates referring to them as halfwits and and morons his elevation came in his first computer. As soon as Laura realized he could build entire worlds in code worlds were governed by his rules he was hooked. One of Larousse Cousins Remembers Teenage Larue as quote completely antisocial Dole. Every time we went there he was always hold up in his room. I remember going in and seeing lines and lines of numbers on the screen and it didn't take Kim long at all to figure out how coating could start bringing in money illegally of course in nineteen eighty nine. The police leased showed up at Laura's Johannesburg home and arrested the sixteen year old for selling pornography in these early days before the Internet it appeared heared larue had revolutionized pornography distribution by going digital but the specifics to his operation. Remain Murky to this day. What we do know for sure was that Paul's parents were appalled but he himself just laughed? When Larue retold this story with with a plumbing pride he would recall how silly the entire situation seemed to him? Everyone would have praised him if he'd found a new method of selling books or Lennon's all this fuss just because his commodity was porn chip as long as Larue was making money. He didn't care what he was selling and even as a teenager he didn't care about breaking the law he didn't care about exploiting others later on that instinct would have disastrous stress results. Not just for larue himself. But also for his employees and the entire country of the United States coming up larue uses his coding skills to make millions selling selling illegal painkiller prescriptions and helps ignite the opioid epidemic. Hi Hi it's Kate. I am thrilled to tell you about. A new park has show. I'm hosting with my the dark side of and political scandals partner Richard they. They are natural born leaders with a never ending thirst for power through force and deceit. They rise through the ranks toward radicalism eliminating being anyone who stands in their way and the only thing more inevitable than their rise. Is there ruin. Discover the true stories of power. Our greed and deceit in the park cast original series dictators. Every Tuesday dictators examines the reign of a real life if tyrant exploring the unique conditions that allowed them to seize control. Each dictator is analyzed in two part episodes with the first I giving insight into their rise to power and the second chronicling the impact of their downfall. Hear more about the men who claim to love their country but were intricately responsible for killing millions of their own people. Men such as Prime Minister Benito Mussolini Supreme Leader Leader Kim Jong UN and even Julius Caesar himself discover the governments that fell the lives that were destroyed and evil evil at its highest level. Follow dictators free on spotify. Or wherever you get your podcasts. Now back to the story in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine sixteen year old Paul Larue was arrested stood for selling pornography online. The arrest did nothing to diminish his interest in coding or using the World Wide Web to make money in fact in fact he doubled down in nineteen ninety. Holyrood dropped out of high school to dedicate himself fully to coding. He completed the year's worth of coursework at South African college and just eight weeks by nineteen ninety one. He had collected programming certificates from three different training courses. Larue was ready to make moves on his own as he grew older he felt he was outgrowing South Africa. He wanted to live somewhere cosmopolitan where his skills would be recognized in the early nineties when he was eighteen or nineteen. He purchased a one way ticket to London when he arrived at the airport. He was told that his luggage was too heavy. Instead of paying the overweight fee he opened his bags and removed moved his clothes when the luggage went back on the scale there was nothing but coding books inside. He would travel to London with only the clothes on his back. larue quickly secured his first job in England at B. E. I a modest software development company. Right away he prioritized his work above everything else. His early employer described him as having quote very little personality he was is against doing anything social. He had no interest in building relationships with anyone. As far as I could see larue thought he was finally living his best life life completely absorbed in his work but is the nineties progressed and he continued to expand his skills Kotor. He found that his work at B.. I wasn't wasn't enough to satisfy his intellect. He started working on his own project at home in Nineteen ninety-seven twenty-four-year-old or your old larue began developing his own encryption software. In his free time he called it encryption for the masses or e four m Dan for short up until this point encrypted files would still appear during a search of the hard drive in fact encrypting files actually had the unfortunate side effect of showing the authorities exactly which files they should look at but Larousse e forum was different users could encrypt to their entire hard drive or single files and the files would be completely concealed from any invaders. It was Larousse very first stroke stroke of genius. Through the software's Development Larue used coding forums on the Internet to troubleshoot issues and solicit advise when when he was ready to release e four M in nineteen ninety eight. He posted the code online for free in the spirit of the early Internet. He he wanted his community of coating peers to continue working on the project. Improving it for the common good of course as we all know. The Internet Internet is not always a community that works toward the common good. It's often a cesspool for the very worst of human behavior. The Internet chewed up. Laura's Genius Software Code and exploited the hilt roughly two years after he forums free release. Larue found himself working in for a client who was developing software that used elements of the forum code and unlike Larue the client was monetize ing it. Larue had never seen a scent of prophets from the software. larue complained about his situation on the message. Boards he wrote the whole point point in the beginning of e for him was to publish the code to get peer review and help to enhance the product. In the end people climbed onto on my back did not help one bit bitched. All the time stole the code for incorporation into their own products and generally abuse the whole situation. The abuse of Laura's life's work on e four M changed him forever. He'd never trust a stranger again and a year later he learned he could never trust his family either in two thousand to thirty year. Old Larue. Apply to renew his passport. He was finally going into business on his own and wanted to make sure he was. Free to travel is needed but when he received a copy of of his original birth certificate from Zimbabwe he noticed something strange. The name listed under mother wasn't the woman who raised him. And where your Paul Roos name should have been it said unknown when Larue called home a relative was reluctant to discuss the issue. You but finally they admitted that Larue had been adopted. larue was forever haunted by the revelation particularly by the fact that his given birth name was just unknown. larue wanted to be known to be someone influential but at the same time the the incident fueled his mistrust as much as he wanted to be famous and powerful he would always operate in the shadows behind heavy. Encryption and Laura's first business proved that he could do just that he called his company Rx limited he descried ride the venture as an online pharmacy designed to help streamline the complicated and expensive prescription process in the United States. He claimed aimed he wanted to help. People get their medication more quickly and easily in his words without them. Having to go through all this rigmarole the rigmarole rigmarole was actually having to doctor's office receive a diagnosis and get a prescription now. They didn't have to do any of that. Larue wasn't helping people his business model wasn't that different than the porn. He sold back in the nineteen eighties. He had found an untapped market. Desperate Esperait Americans looking for easy access to drugs and he was going to explode it for most patients their first contact with our eggs limited was through email spam or at the top of a search page for cheap pills or drugs online they would find legitimate looking websites with names is like cheap Rx meds dot net or all the best rx dot com with banters on top touting them as trusted online pharmacy since two thousand four and stock photos of doctors users could find anything on these sites from asthma medication to Viagra but the bulk of Rx limited limited sales were three drugs. Ultra Soma and fewer set. These drugs had two things in common. They were powerful powerful painkillers with the potential for addiction and they were all outside the scope of drugs labeled controlled substances by the Da Batman Batman Rx limited sell them with little risk of prosecution and if any users were concerned about the legality of their transaction. All all of our Eggs Ltd's websites provided a soothing disclaimer. Our company is committed to meeting and exceeding all government regulations covering this new new form of healthcare provision. Ace meds Dot Com will only refer your order to certified physicians that are fully licensed. That claim was does mostly true after user selected their drugs of choice. They were routed to a medical questionnaire. The information they provided added about their symptoms and medical history was related to a licensed physician. Those Physicians for the most part would simply hit approve after after a licensed physician approved the prescription. The order was routed to an Rx limited affiliated pharmacy from there it was shipped via Fedex to the customer's door in order to prevent each individual website from being traced back to Larue and his headquarters in the Philippines. He created his own domain gene. Registrar that registrar minted an unlimited number of website domains. He didn't have to worry about an outside domain service turning over over his information to the police and when any of his sites were shut down it only took him a few clicks to open a new one. Larue had designed his business so that he controlled every part of it in the corporate sector the organization would be called a fully integrated vertical. Oh business just two years. After rx limited went live it was bringing in tens of millions of dollars a year in prophets when and the DA. I looked into larue. Set up a few years later even they were blown away by the brilliance of his design. Agent Stephen Holden Said said we knew he was a legitimate drug kingpin. We knew he was the real deal and he was a genius to put this all together with money. Money pouring in larue relocated to Manila where local laws were favourable to international businesses there. He decided to branch Out into bigger and more ambitious ventures and the next business would prove deadlier than anyone could have imagined coming up larue moves from the online world too. The real underworld old now back to the story in two thousand and five thirty two year old. Paul Larue was making millions with his online pharmaceutical company Rx limited but he wasn't content to run a shady online pharmacy. He wanted power he wanted to be known in two thousand. Five larue brought on Moran is to manage one of his customer service call centers Staff the center as quickly as he could but larue kept siphoning off staff for odd tasks totally unrelated touaregs limited. One recruit was spirited off to supervise a timber operation in Mozambique another was overseeing the purchase of gold directly from African minds yet. Another kept watch over his stash houses in Hong Kong. Larue was diversifying with the amount of money he was making aching from Rx limited. He could do whatever he wanted and his employees were along for the ride whether they liked it or not but larue knew that if he really wanted to expand his criminal horizons his Rx. Limited hires would only take him so far he needed a different kind of employees people who over familiar with security who were comfortable negotiating with foreign nationals. Who wouldn't bat an eye when larue discipline them by say throwing them off a boat? DOC enter Dave Smith. Dave Smith was an ex British military but his service history is spotty. He likes to say he was in the regiment referring to the exclusive British Special Air Services. He also claimed he worked in the United States. As as a SWAT team trainer and in the late nineties he moved into private security contract work. The most prominent work on his resume was as a military military advisor to the warlord President of Liberia. This experience was what really peaked. Larousse interest with a man like Smith Yeah thought is payroll by the end of two thousand. Five larue had military contacts all over the globe at his fingertips. His first task for them was is to shore up protection at his Manila headquarters. Dave Smith and his cohorts started building relationships with all kinds of Filipino authorities. Both on local and national levels most of those relationships involved trading money for information and protection with the authorities paid off off Larue and is growing force of mercenaries were able to operate out of Manila with complete impunity. One of the most legendary stories about Larousse Bruce Political reach started in his bedroom he was known for his voracious sexual appetite but one night a woman refused one of his sexual demands. Instead of sending the girl back out into the night larue pulled out a baseball bat and beat her senseless until she managed to escape keep. It only took a few days for Larue to find out that he hadn't beaten up just another sex worker. The woman was the daughter of a Filipino. Senator if anyone else had done the beating they would have been dead but not larue. He invited the senator to his office and offered him three million Leeann dollars as an apology. And beyond that he offered to put the senator on his payroll in exchange. The senator would provide larue with useful. The information it worked. Larue was not only able to escape any consequences but he actually turned his enemy into an ally. Laura's reputation was starting to proceed him but he was careful to keep the details of his operation under wraps almost everyone everyone on his payroll was working in a vacuum. Even Dave Smith the closest thing larue had to a number two new only the bare minimum about the expanding company only one person knew how their actions connected to the whole hall larue often the work was perplexing or even downright pointless a former military fixer and Larousse employ. Who Will Call Mark? Wilson recalled many many times. We did things we were like. What the hell are we doing here? We didn't see the point. You ask yourself why but it's just something that just comes up in his mind and only he knows. Does the exact reason why Wilson. I learned about this video secrecy during his job interview in early. Two thousand seven. He only knew the boss by his first name which he thought was Johann. When Wilson arrived the residents three security guards searched him for weapons before he could go inside ride? larue spoke with Wilson briefly. Before telling him. Tomorrow you're flying to Port Moresby. Papua New Guinea is that okay apparently already had the job. Wilson didn't know anything about Papua New Guinea or wiler ru was scouting out ocean front property there but he was desperate for work so he took the offer he had. No idea just agreed to travel to one of the most dangerous places on the planet in the employ Roy of an international crime Lord in a job that got weirder with each passing day. Sometime in two thousand eight. Eight Wilson moved into a house with two of Laura's other employees at first the two other men were secretive about what exactly their role was in the company which is what the employees had started calling the mysterious organization. But the more time Wilson spent with his new roommates mates he realized they were essentially an on call enforcement team. They acted on the ruse orders. No matter how violent or illegal illegal they bragged about lucrative bonus work or wet work which Wilson learned was code for assassinations. Larue took deadly revenge on anyone who wronged him business partners and employees alike as Wilson. Leader said everybody was scared. Larue they all knew what he was capable of and he wasn't shy to turn on you in late. Two Thousand Eight larue. Enlisted Wilson Wilson to participate in one of his revenge plots. Wilson was ordered to go to a Manila townhouse. Where a man named Steve? Hahn was staying it. It was Wilson's job to look after Steve and make sure he didn't go anywhere. Stephen is brother. Andrew had allegedly used one point five million dollars as of Laura's money to purchase fake gold. The brothers claimed that it was a mistake. They were the ones who'd been defrauded. The Rue pretended to accept except the story in reality he was sure the brothers had scammed him out of the money but if he was going to lure them back to Manila he needed the brothers to think all was forgiven. Steve didn't realize he was in trouble until he was trapped in a safe house. With Mark Wilson. The only only reasons Steve was being kept alive was because Larue was hoping to get back the one point five million. He'd lost when it became obvious that he really really didn't have the money. Larue lost his patience. He told Wilson they lost it. They lose their life eventually. larue gave in and allowed Steve to leave Manila alive to try and raise the money he needed to pay back. Wilson was finally freed from his is babysitting detail but not long after in early. Two thousand nine larue summoned him to a meeting. The Steve Han ordeal had shown. Wilson could be trusted now. The Rue had a new job for him. Something very important to the company larue. Gave Wilson is most absurd absurd and dangerous orders yet in order to survive. He would need heavy weaponry and all his military skills. This job was unlike like anything else. Wilson are Larue. Had ever attempted before. Mark Wilson was told to go to Somalia and begin construction on a tuna fishing business. 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Episode 452 - You Got Child's Played - Dan Soder & Dave Landau

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Episode 452 - You Got Child's Played - Dan Soder & Dave Landau

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You guys just have to awkwardly not as A child looks back at their parents at a concert. Oh that's my music music. Yeah there it is everyone but I was rocking out. It is allegiance gangs podcast. We are live from guests digital studios right now because they are having the some MHM hack. Patrice the Patrice benefit after party at the stand tonight. It's a cover up. They were cancelled. The stand cancelled skaggs. Exited US yeah. It doesn't even take away attention from our Asia fear treatment benefit like any of his family. Still Alive Yeah. Well really yeah. It's not benefiting him either. Who Wears it go? Yeah Patrice benef-. I'll tell you what time Shane going to tell them to put down the chicken. What are you getting the money together for time machine? We need to raise a a lot of money. It's research alone. I have to assume that comes up a bit whereas benefit till I explained ever. I think it's money for his family like his mom uh-huh and it was just explained you. I'm GonNa Guess as much as Mother's still alive. Yeah sure that's Kinda Weird. Hey if I if I eat shit please someone throw the benefit but make it fun. But you'll I'm sure you'll have your mom covered to some degree now. I I wanted to go to all the Strip clubs dollar each reported speaking a little out of school in that there might be like a charity. And I've ever haven't heard of one but I could charity and his name smell. Yeah you're saying no because it's going to be the episode of skaggs that blows whole thing wide open. You definitely have a Patrice O'Neal like you know Me and Christine's healthy school meals school meals for kids Type thing sounds gay insulin for those. Who can't afford it? Why he died from fat? Essentially it was type two right our heart attack Cartel a stroke heart attack stroke. A bunch of things happened in the hospital. I think if she was there initially I think stroke the stroke heart attack actually made the stroke better. But then they're strung with the stroke. The second stroke came in and once the stroke start ganging up. Oh time the rumble. That was your time to start playing. Some strokes do news near eighteen. I wonder if someone had a stroke stroke. Ah watching different strokes kind of everybody. WHO's here everybody of course across me fellows Dave Smith I would just like to pour a little bit of liquor out for the homie Louis. J Gomez at home. I'M GONNA put my drink right on the edge of the table where she asked. Yes safe who they'll totally be. Cool with these swinging microphones. Nothing's bound to happen We are down tonight. The Puerto Rican rattlesnake has the corona virus. I I believe he's calling it possible stomach. Flu But Corona Corona virus does sound like something you call in out of work to get drunk you go awesome. She's Lewis on his building this guts. It'd I'd be like dude. You had a bola in two thousand fifteen now. You have corona like every time a disease. I got the bird flu. Avian flu back. Big Time. Invented Corona virus to stop the bird flu because it was killing all the chickens. Were Kinda Yeah. I heard it because they eat batsmanship. I've heard bat soup but I heard they were making the virus. What if you're eating? You deserve a plague. Yeah but they eat everything like that. We'll just see their gross people. You make terrible decisions while that's probably coming from the mouth of somebody. From over compound media stars off compound media. Everybody is hilarious. Dave Landau was today one and of course to my right My work husband everybody from the bonfire from billions from special son of a Gary. It's Dan soder everybody. Hey hello there's no reason for hope different energy with no fan. Yes I still I still pause for laughter and Bobby is GonNa pop it in later take hear them post kill we kill and I have them used only applause and laughter from sitcoms. Maybe some yeah. The burly guy lead last night. ooh Sitcom racy down as someone who has to have the technology to score the rest of this episode after it comes out like a Sitcom. Yeah just do it yourself. I'm excited to see it because I wanna see like like a clap when somebody walks in. Yeah we should put him out for more Lewis shows up. It'd be like Kramer coming in. Shut up shut up. Don't don't say that. Because he's listening live and he will come out and his medicine bubble Hilfiger. It'd be more funding to be worth it to show up from the inside jet. You're just making it worse. He's GonNa come down on the face. Give US CORONA virus. He's going to hold a whole James out like a spit at us. Uncle Dan in my mouth. He's throwing up from Zombie. I I'll come come on you. Don't see him that much. I'll come Tan. Ah weaponized baby. All right I can scoring going to be fun. I want them to start rising backup. Backup the dead ones. I want this to be the end of everything. Dude Arden Goliath pack of cigarettes immediately. If the dead come to life immediately why you don't WanNa be there to fight them do. We've we've already but I gotta I gotTa have a cigarette my mouth say cool double double hatchets a BO staff Guy Dave. I picked you as a throwing knife. Something with a throwing knife Dave would be a knife specialist. I kind of like that. I appreciate the closest I've got explosives in jazz demolition sex with regulators. We haven't noticed Dave talked to a immigrants goes blow it work handled in and take down that building on seventh. We call all that a blow in wasn't even in the state controlled demolitions baby myself. How man three and five am laid all that dino now? Yes we've picked are are well. I'm a BO staff got to figure for some reason. It's this if I was a shorter. Fatman Dan you go battle. Axe gotta be a burly guy for a battle you could go may pull off a battle axe or mace for sure uglier guy I would be married right now. You can get married a guy. You're squatty battle-axe battleaxe to assume you British. The short short people will be dead by then you'll be shorter by comparison with the battle axe. Take a battle axe. uh-huh salt intake just even battleaxes. Don't miss the Dave. I was saying I saw you with the jewel earlier. Are you worried of all the jewel commercial or you do you subscribe to. It's all jargon or awards. Just the foreign off market ship. I I think it's a government conspiracy Is that you're working with big tobacco. We actually believe leave us. Yeah to some degree and then I think some people have died from it. Yeah this isn't good for you. Can't fuck inhale the shit sure. What's the body count nine yet? It's really like next next another thousand people a year die from cigarettes and like I die from this and then a lot of those articles. They'll be like vape. Kills another one. It's like Oh someone and bought a weed vape from their dealer. Well they're saying that it's also a lot of them say that the market ones have like weird oils in them. Burn cheap stuff's bakery make rotavirus sitting right there. What do you think I'M GONNA lose? Its Corona virus. He's trying to buy a K.. To vape he's trying to avoid. Here's I want. Synthetic we'd vapor. Ah wanted to sit. This is Stephen Moore. Someone's face off in traffic. Melt a racket ball and smoke it. Yeah that's GonNa be the way got vape got pushed out as a former former cigarette smoker. I was like that Shit. It was too quick in available out to say. What is it like science? So somebody said it that I mean I'm going jump too soon to the vape. But Uh Shannon who works guess digital like has only had never smoked a cigarette cigarette in our life. That's crazy to me but a dorky weighted down start vaping but my daughter was too old for that to be her story. It's weird remaining day forever yet. Doing I loved it. Yeah I think back to smoking ban Dan. It's really great as a lot. Yeah drugs I I. I was like to probably probably close to two. It was just one after the other. OCD thing and it's delicious or even are sick. You'd be like really sick and you back I'm GonNa get one in. I'd say they've quit. Got Sick now as we told me when you first got sick for like a week you were in bed and didn't really want to smoke when you when you did it. You're absolutely confused me with one of your other lovers. You said it on the chair across from me loses apartment doing this. That was Valerie another day. How long ago did you or did you just switch vape? Because I don't know if no I quit for a while and then went back and then I quit cigarettes with vape but I quit smoking cigarettes for like five five years when you came back. Act Weird to see someone go back to smoking and all of a sudden there's bus went out like I'm GonNa go outside and you can't tell you. I felt so awkward for people regularly weeks. After I went back to smoking. There'd be so many moments where you're just like you just in front of someone who you're just like that polling that cigarette smoking admission of like yeah. I know it's during a story where Mike David told you this but I lost my great uncle Taylor lung cancer and it was pretty rough. He was like a father to me and he's in the fact that you quit smoking. Uh work his spirit is still with US somewhere. Uncle Leo Looks Stressing me out stories. Really lighten up swing through a hole in their neck. You're like I'm going to need a cigarette to shake. Yeah that's happening to me so I might as well smoke now because this is I'm that's my nightmare. It it was happening tomorrow. I'll tell you it's a really horrible. Feeling I particularly remember I was going to meet Ari. We went to a jets recipes. and His. Don't do anything to them. Where all he's dead already? We're all going to tell our stories. But I was going to meet him because we're going to football game and I was smoking a cigarette and I just come back to smoking and I'm just walking up the block and I look. I saw him walking toward me and he just has his hands up. Like what the fuck are you doing and I just had a smile like an embarrassed teenager the worst. I know stupid saying here. I've stressed that's more like you. Just gotTa do the admission. Yeah I know idiot right a grown man and to have to do that stupid or shouldn't I know the whole rap of a J. I remember you quit in Twenty fifteen and then when you came back you would go and hide like you were having gay. Sex running son of a minister take around a tent Jane at Bonnaroo. I was hiding smoking from people. Goff my main reason of dipping off with saying I'd Gokhale Isabella and then by like the second it was like he hasn't caused O.. J.'s that involved in smoking all right. So how'd your second subject of homework. Oh uh-huh I was making these phone calls at a time. I want to smoke a cigarette and an outdoor music festival. That's what I'm saying. No one would talk to their daughter. The world perfect father would never this would be airing. Demands are like we're gonNA take a break. I had a call Isabelle. Oh my God tell her just how northward fire was performing your performance. Yeah who's this Alabama shakes. I'm GONNA go the. It this guy is a fucking involved. Dad Yeah She She reached out to me today. Isabella's it was funny. When your daughter knows what's going on in the world She reached out to me. Today is hilarious. Way To describe your daughter who you really sounds strange strange might as well have said with my daughter showed. She's still living in New York standing answer that she's a senior now. I was Gonna say that she lives. My daughter is not. She's every bit seventeen years old so there's not a ton of like it's always me reaching out there every day and talking to her so no it's she wants to talk to her friends and whatever but she reached out this morning to semi thing like they're trying I think like almost like Hey dad heads up like they're trying to dock. Sorry which I are not meant and trying to put one Weiner and another Weiner with the foreskin one's gotTa have the four and that's the problem. Try to explain to her that I'll talk and Isobel Isabella. No you don't understand. Arias of the tribe and his penis is cut and then I texted her picture of our Dick Hop and she got into heavy hangers. She got it no. I didn't I didn't know what that meant. there's John is that a is that Johnny. No It's another guy wearing a shirt and it's putting put all this information formation out. Yeah I heard about. People are very upset. Yeah Pretty surprisingly no kings fans yeah. They're fine with it. They're quite. They got they really go out. And Sacramento one family in Denver woman are to drop the N. Word and isn't getting much anger towards her as she she knickers that's she's also a huge fan. Now so much in the middle title of we talk this off. Microphone Dan where you were saying like you said she is not saying she goes from saying Lakers are knicks. Nix the Lakers. It does come like Nacre. It comes out niggers. She also take an I believe her. Excuse the lead in sentence was bad too she. She said something like he was a perfect fit for the Lakers was like something like that I think she might just say Nacre. She drops it but isn't they. Were talking about this. It's a pretty hard. Yeah Yeah it's pretty. It's pretty s absolutely but I don't think it was on purpose and I don't think I would do that. It was the same hired. Howard George turns say that they they they didn't understand? Do you remember the old one. Martin Luther Coon Junior. Yeah we played eight times because the thing about they keep going like. I mean that's like it's not. How could that possibly happening goes junior junior? Before he gets a king he's rushing it and it they did they were supposed to do. I don't think it's a rate. I don't think he normally says Martin Luther to his white black. Newscasters have both done it. Yes so so yes. Because they're supposed to do something for our James Earl Jones so and they mess it up is a The Guy who shot Martin Luther King Junior was like Earl James James Earl Ray. James Roar came out wrong and you're like oh they engraved it wrong pocket. That's the big buckle up saying the wrong word like I don't know maybe maybe there's like some Freudian slips. You get angry for obviously this chick trying to jeopardize her job also way worse than that. The worst one. I've ever heard which I was. Just glorious was a Contessa brewer that she was working. MSNBC and she goes to forget what the topic was but she's like for more on that. Now I'm joined by the Reverend Al Sharpton and then you just hear this sad voice go. I'm Jesse Jackson way worse but so so amazing Jackson of course throws the plus she goes. I know you're Reverend Jesse Jackson because my my staff staff put the wrong it just throws her fucking people under the bus. Even though I'm looking right at joining me rental James Simpson. I started recently. WERE TO APOLOGIZE FOR A. She's with black. You can find this bobby. She's a black co anchor. And they're talking about like you you know a new guerrilla that showed up at the zoo or something kind of looks like you and he goes he goes I. Yeah she has to to come on and do I think it's the same thing with the Roseanne apology. Should it come on and be like I don't know why I say something and then the Guy I was hurt but she is one of my best friends watch her. Yeah that's fucking. I don't sign language. I I don't think here's the problem with these keep apologize. That would be a racist and I'm like It's not like there was nothing racial intent behind any of those thing though I liked her his she tweeted her explanation. She put Nacre she goes. This is what I meant what I said and then ended at that. She didn't like take the racist responsibility. Which I think is good to not flat out apologize? I have grown healed. I start all my tweets like that. Of course I have grown in. He'll there were a whole bunch of people like tweeting under the thing. I don't buy her apology. She needs to be fired. And all the like do you. So what is the accusation. Are you saying that. She intentionally said that as like a wink dog whistle. Like you guys all know just fucking erupted at bomb. Hit like living nuggets fan. Yeah they show video of her before you WanNa see something cool Hi Fly move. Check this out texter. Speaking of our speaking are who had that thing thing he put out one time. It was pretty smart when he said if the thing about Kobe if yeah if a comedian comedian Says something on a podcast or watching ashamed. That he knows is being listened to by people that it's definitely a joke dude. I mean it's like the same thing with this is So so stone them losing my own train of thought we will just add before we lost to smoke. We didn't lose well. It's not my royal saying the word. Yes the argument explanation having guy. I know you're the inside guy. I'm on stone but I have no idea going is to student. Let's do this. You were at a saying the word you didn't mean to saying Oh yes. So if a news can if a newscaster says if a newscasters get more diet coke a to a newscaster says something says something like that on a broadcast. It's clearly just like a flood on words. I mean it's not a racial. It wasn't like Shit. Hit My super racism just flat on my mouth. 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But I feel like Ari almost every the event like this are will put out a troll tweet with his people off and it's just interesting how much this one like. I wouldn't have guessed that coby of all the people who die would have been like such a sensitive subject. I also think the mail it happened short. It was because the amount of children that were on the helicopter copter. I think yeah well Jas because he actually took the Jason Priestley but Luke Perry yeah he that's pinned above the yeah like. Oh this is what he does. It's like varieties what he does. Is it going to appease enough people. Oh No it's to make that just be like the the easiest way to sidestep no. I'm not defending what I did. I thought it was too far but I'm just kidding. I thought that would be obvious. no-one no-one on this podcast. Awed cast feels that way for second day was a Kobe. Just took a hard line on lead gangs. That's gotta get emotional down on the line. I don't agree with any of that. It's weird how people react though. But maybe that's just the comic cynicism because I just rolled through and I was like. Oh Wow then he just kept kept going yeah. I didn't think anything of until I saw it. Overblown I if I if I saw it before where it was at now where it's gotten to. I would've just been like Jesus fucking Christ he's taking a fucking swing for Yeah I mean it's really it's but it's clearly such a troll tweet to get that reaction. Yeah but now they want troll tweet but I mean like you're opening yourself up. I'm not sure what the end game. But that's what I'm confused by. You can tweet cakes attack attack. You just hilarious watching people get this upset for a stupid reason. I think that's literally the endgame of it whereas violence threatening shit. They're really well. I don't know if that's was his endgame but the fuck it's coming. Well I don't know I don't know if the violent I was. I was pretty surprised. Surprised by people who are like. I'M GONNA fucking really era. We're in with the Internet that people for a long time to ruin your career. You know what I mean and not actually hunt hunt you down as having someone knows I mean he he doubled down on it. Well what happens when you say anything bad about a dead famous. NACRE her this just in Dave Dave Smith intentionally flubbed LAKER. I'm sorry what did I say as Nick's story about back because I think he tweeted out the first thing before he knew his daughter was involved in the thing as a fire that hit the little tick to the chill for a week. Dude people have but now. What have we made jokes? I meant to me. It's like people I just I'm not I'm not saying I'm condemning me me. I'm just saying it's like I just see like is one of those ones where you're like if I do this on social media again. This is something that I've said this. If he said it on a podcast to us you can kind of get the idea that it's like ours is like an over the top thing to say whatever you know what. I mean like trolling almost is it. Acceptable for sixty percent of the country to start talking about how he's a rapist and then this is one step too far like people were all over that the second than yeah. That's true. Yeah it's all fucking retarded and I for me like I. Just maybe it's like my own and we are autistic thing. Maybe this is. Why a libertarian But I just go like what's the logic of the emotion like what's the because all these people are like they'll be like oh so his family just lost their husband and daughter and now you're going to send this tweet in your like this. Do you think it's worse now. Like oh man husband and daughter and Ariz tweet sure there it Max Trail Brasi does record. He died also. I'm pretty sure a guy is out of chopper business. So let's think about the small business owners true choppers. Nobody's even your ankle cliff Faulk Koby. Who's our biggest one magnum Ip? Yeah plus the guy was Kinda negligent. He went out when it was way. Too Fog August. Like I'm definitely going to get you there. There's definitely a feeling like that's GONNA come. That's like some Dick Wagon. It really was president. Celebrity got fly through that fog as the blackbox. Kobe goes no. I don't Talk Radio Tower throat. There's no chance in California. There could be hills or mountains. We're good serve. We're fine we're fine is the mountains of California. What's going to happen like Kobe? There's no way you can get through that file. I said there was no ED. Make the all sorts al.. Just try but to go. You're saying I agree like the I said this to you earlier about people get so with all the people that are going like dude fucking can step foot in this city again. I'll kill you you go. I'll tell you Kobe Bryant wouldn't be coming at the person. Do you like this. You know what I mean. Oh Yeah Yeah. Lebron got the championship. Strew threats no absolutely always probably not going to go in the Lakers championships. But what if you don't know that just in Los Angeles Lakers. Signing a free agent Ari Shapiro to a six year guaranteed. He'd contract he's a Kurt. Ramp vices young lady. I said that they should by Ari. courtside tickets to the Lakers game back that Jack. Nicholson Diane Ken Ariz.. You fear there the rest in Peace Mamba. No that's my only point of it was like I don't know when you put that out there. Like on social media versus is like a conversation that tone to it like seems like it's kamikaze in the sense of like what you're going to be the crazy fucking backlash trolling of it. But like I don't know what the end game is says. Just make people laugh and Piss people off. It's like yeah I think it's just it's good but he's entertaining himself. He's doing what he does. Yes we might be like He doesn't seem to give a fuck. Does not offer earned which is the reason. I've always trusted a moon when doing drugs with him. Why already has that very much? Like we're GONNA get through this. Well you've got to trust them. I mean molly and tweet out the blacks or five eighth of people already do you read you. Read my mind and when used with them did you take it or did he put it in. Drink layer yeah knows actually before an important test it. Has Anybody ever done drugs with our or is already just put drugs in your stuff. All right just lets. You know he goes. You're doing drugs today but Look I respect them Hopefully a Bo Bo Bo bowls blows over to some point but I mean like it's a I'm sure it will not pretty hard. Yeah Yeah Brad Williamson went away pretty quick. That's already gone. Yeah that sucks wwl kid born on the same days your birthday and then everybody pull up a fucking podcast. From ten years ago. He had the fact that yeah birthday got his son finally born and then it's just like Oh yeah. Didn't you rape a girl. It's not a podcast where he mentioned how he he did. As as a joke. There's no irony left in this fucking country so he just take everything at face value. It's pretty rare that you get an ironic rape should've aged yet wondering any raped by midget. Pretty Ironic fight. You already goes. Even if cops walked in the position we were in. They would think I was doing it to him. You know you've never seen the Younger sibling bicycle kick. That takes care of ninety percent of little people. Strapping happen down an abandoned and backed her ass into them. doggy style. Aggressively go honey. I L listen honey. I had to take a budget fucking pay cut at work but I can give you the you little person defense class was he was he. Did you get on a kitchen table raping you or was he just trying to find a human host to put his doll. Oh my God you gotTa Childhood Lead. Unfortunately it was only a misdemeanor meet up which a Jamaican killer before this. That's fucking hilarious child's play Bitch Carlos man see this is so good. He just got child's Espada. I feel it growing growing growing inside. Go so that. Should we check in with Louis. We have phone call capabilities here with the crisis at. Oh by I forgot bobby scoring Louis capable to get Lewis on the phone. I don't want to catch the flu over the phone. Good Point Dave. There's no way that can happen. I it krona virus. You don't know what can happen it. Every time he says corona virus cheers a beer. All's Kuroda vars virus gave me an umbrella so Yeah good timing are. He's doing special in two weeks. Excellent taping special. So is he doing it She gets him buzz. I'm sure somewhere. Uh I don't know if I should announced where he's doing it somewhere. Rogan was getting all that heat over the last week I felt justice warriors. Were coming after him and then like Kobe died and rubens like all right attentions off me for a little bit and then fucking are. Is there like good. I'm glad Kobe died. And they're like as seen on the Joe Rogan experience. Did you see Rogan shitting on Stephen Smith. Now it was great it was pretty great. Yeah Yeah Yeah Stephen. A Smith to. It's pretty funny. I guess he was talking Shit about cowboy. Yeah ceremony that Bobby. That'd be great. He's pretty good doesn't he. He talked to even as Smith is really about what well so now that the UFC's with ESPN Stephen Smith comes down to is commentary and it has been obvious for many. US's to hardcore fans. Stephen Smith it doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about just brings his same amount boy. He brings this same Stephen a Smith energy. So he's this brand like he always. It has to have a strong opinion on everything even though he has no idea why boys get asked what hood so most of these Brazilians billions right. Quite frankly I don't understand how you could lose a fight. Diggers they're all classically trained Martial artists he's had so he was saying like Donald didn't try like he was like he he didn't even show up. He didn't even like try to win the fight he just gave up. And you're like dude. Did you have no idea what you're talking about like he got. He's like those guys. He got his nose and orbital an orbital and then got kicked in the fucking head it guys. He's one of the toughest guy I think. He sort of gates. Dan's favorite off. I'll kill you. I love you cowboy. I'm turning twenty. So he calls them like he says he quit and gave up then. rogan comes Adam a little bit and this shows video of Stephen. A Smith training fighting just laughing at his punches. It's him and who's he with. Josh Thomson it was like a great Emma Thompson. Yeah what boils down to it with boils down to Earth Rogan. The end of the day he could just kick the fuck you absolutely off Stephen Smith he he would like. I would argue with everybody if I was back in idiot. What do you WANNA fight like? Yeah he goes twenty twenty. Come off hold. That isn't really doesn't like to be combative. But I'm saying but it's nice to have that in the back but it's just because he's he's like a lifelong fighter and he's like kind of insulting this fighter he's just like that was like Rogan's limiting don't call some guy gets indicate he's got the most wins in. UFC history. You're saying he he liked bitched out. Like get the fuck and Louis Louis came with me to fight bar. No one goes. I did that half ass. Yeah just doesn't have the Louis Louis went with we went to a UFC event together and we were pretty close and Saronikos fighting. That's why I wanted to go throwing came up and I was Marone Lewis goes. It's okay how I watched you fall in love with a man he does. He's like one of my favorite fighters when he was running like takes fights on two weeks notice. He's he's a fucking bad ass story on Rogan about hop overselling. It already take his shirt off he's great potties. Got Family loves was good kissed you you know you want to feel like okay is the smell. The the guy knows how to cook mostly French and some Italian stuff. But it's good stuff. He makes his good. He makes dessert. He doesn't eat it but it's taste. Who Does is a creme Brulee and walk away from one that good? I mean a discipline man. Do you have Stephen. A Smith Talkin Shit Shit Bobby. No bodies dead. Bobby died bobby bobby. Bobby has got the corona virus. Yeah yeah we got the Joe Rogan Clip. Do you WanNa hear that you don't you don't have Stephen a Smith Talkin Shit. They kind of cover what he says he goes. I looked at your instagram from yesterday. And you had that video Steve Naismith immediately I was like Oh my goodness explain so much. Play this play play. Play this Jay. We Watch this watch this first of all someone needs to explain me. What's happening here in the left tick? Unless that guy's got positive. This is like two guys who know what they're doing just openly criticizing something that you're just trying to do if you're like. It was almost show me like trying to ice skate. And there's like hockey players like look at this piece of shit like the lake behind your apartment. Also any other guys guys might watch that and be like Stephen Smith to these guys absolutely know what they're doing punch like a gay turtle. What are you dick slapping again? They're getting ready to kiss or something. Can you only get hard. If you're paying a guy with a g a nice nice nut knocker that what was that one. Just shut the blinds and venom over that arcade fucking way back that up because they said something really funny there Rogan the left tick unless that guy's got a two foot Dick. Hello he's punching no idea that it is ridiculous puncture church fighting yeah look Just GonNa cut him a little bit of slack. Only I seriously I think strikeforce we had kind of a similar situation not like this though by the way with Gus Johnson. Remember US trying to talk him and I love Gus when he's talking basketball. I think he's got the energy in the voice that makes people like. Oh wow their grip to the the TV. This I understand what Stephen but this. It's you WANNA release. After you just called someone who was a pioneer in the sport you basic home a quitter you call the guy a quitter first of all broken orbital bone okay. You say. He's a quitter. He got his face. Mask y'all hey. He got cracked by one of the biggest punchers in the sport. Yeah he Ah He has the most wins in the sport he has the most wins by finish. He has the most bonuses. I mean come on his the most fights come on you. You call him that guy. That's Stephen a Smith. How does he come back from this? Besides like I don't know what I'm talking about. He came back like real aggressive aggressive. Like I'm right about all respect to Joe Rogan but I'm right meant that he didn't respond he. He was like arm right. But you you know all I was saying. was that CONARD. We didn't see enough of Connor to know whether he's back. or He's that good or blah blah deserved it come on Jesus. He really likes fires before he gets out of that but he wasn't responding to what they were annoyed about. It's not that they were saying like. Oh we only saw forty seconds of Connor which still by the way is a stupid point. It's still a fucking dumb point. Donald on his all the best guys in the world and if you just run through him forty seconds that says something but there the thing they were like thought it was disrespectful is that he was saying cowboy quit. That's not how fighting works. You don't quit. It's not like you could go three rounds and then get kicked in the head and knocked out or in thirty seconds you could get kicked in the head and knocked out and it doesn't get your fucking quit if you're quarter rustler. Yeah yeah kicking the face ready to do a different sport just a really bad quarter man. Hey you WanNa do the fake thing of what you already do. Yeah I'd prefer. That could actually get face there. It's hard yeah. I know it's a sport. It's not it's performance art sports entertainment sports entertainment all right guys. Let's just move on Stephen a Smith Smith Senate like he's GonNa say Hoodie he's setting. It looks like you said into his daughter at college. Goes Yo Daddy love you all right. I sent some money up. We're GONNA be gone this this weekend. I'll be wagging that Buni all over campus ship Lerma fucker. Two houses code. I got a turtleneck respect to Joe Rogan. Not The bug respect for the man and the tremendous were be he is done. It will continue to do Throughout the years of for years to come. But you're wrong on this woman man. The Stephen as me being at the CONOR McGregor fight against cowboys only sand what. I said that he didn't show us much. In forty seconds that warrants. It's not good for the support. It's not good for me it's not good for ESPN. So He's actually. He's saying saying that. Joe Rogan criticized for saying you're saying you. ESPN commentators don't know. Rogan was saying that he quit. Brogan was criticizing Stephen. A Smith doesn't as an address the thing that nobody's saying but you're saying he did say that's bad for the For the sport. ESPN to have the commentator. Be that out out of school on this. That he's GonNa say like game show because now he's not showing up man got caught by one of the best. What Rogan was saying was that it's bad for the sport to have commentators? Come in don't just don't know the sport you kind of spices. It up you bring has known does nothing in the they kicked him in the legs. Legs on how you can just like human talk on the ground. He's hitting the ground in the cage in the cage. And why would they ever growing up in Detroit. You grandkids thirty thirty four street project. You grab him on the pitch that at ESPN going. Here's what we're GONNA do ring old black men that know nothing about Him we're GonNa let him call for every sport announced he hit a ball. I know what he did is outside. I Know Oh you punched me in the face for Mama Stone. Push my face in the dirt. Motherfucker did that to be still my chain. I'll tell you what back in the old days we chase his brother down the next day your beat him up with his brother windshield wipers. You all ran. Antennas Really trash. How's your whole neighborhood was fixed? Newly re newly relocated immigrants the sideline reporter. He's very bad. Is this soccer. Just football is have sex with you. Yeah they get paid for. Thank you Sarah Guy who came over here in a crate. His wife and seven year old daughter. Any injuries down on the sideline. There's no guessing pretty angry my wife. They took yeah all right. Thank you Julio with your tales from Guatemala. The Dolphins Four Beekman Ma. He couldn't blow my son cry for me. Papa brings us up to the zoloft halftime. Does the winner egner get the E. They know why we get to eat. has to write these vice and the morning Stephen Guy I I was just still gets into more than Steven. What else would be pretty pissed? Devos Aronie and just some guy that doesn't know what he's talking about this guy again for sure sending show up. Oh he should gov to his house and be like hey look who showed up as fuck fuck and part of the kind of MMA code. That is very different than other sports. Like I'm sure it sucks to lose the NBA Championship and it sucks to get struck out and baseball and stuff but in MMA you go into a fucking cage age and you get your fucking head kicked off in front of your kid staff if you quit if the whole world and then there's kind of this thing where you you you don't just like shit on that guy the same way you should. I'm like a basketball team for not showing up. You know what I mean. There's just like a different level. Fifteen turnovers you. Gay Push the Gulf baseball's just like I'm emotionally hurt. You write 'em mayor. I mean it really is the difference between like poor single. Oh Mom and then like a rich single mom with original mom's like I am exhausted. The poor single MOMS. I hope my son can live till tomorrow. I work five job. I haven't even seen Perry heavily gang affiliated. May I like to sleep in my work. Clothes in wake up when it's blackout fighters take fucking such damaged you quit. That's amazing thing that draws people into being MMA fans ends is that it's the ultimate dude fantasy verse nightmare like that's the Oh it's like nothing could be better or worse as a guy than to beat the shit out of someone who rocky win story yes or fucking you throw it a windmill kicking some guy just kitchen. The phone really Awkward Weird Way and it's always it's it's shown on TV for the next thing. That's why I always say losing the winning. You have to always have your eyes on the. If I'm not tough I immediately think of my Ama career and I'd be like which awkward knockout when I had the arm straight or would it be like if the canvas back in your legs crumpled by Shit. If I shoot on my first comedy set ever. I was in my first comedy set when at least okay I remember because I was willing to go back again if it went bad nightmarishly bad. I've never done it again. If you lose your first on ever even considered the fact that I can look doofus with deer legs their bodies out of my control hit something weird or did you hopeful child face with they ask if you're okay. You're like Ono hurt so much. Gophers just have a perfect. Swimming goes can't go ooh nightmare your heart out to walk hole to hold. Don't get a car. We'll do you carry your clubs. Know slave one eighty for that the white slave who gives me of advice occasionally. It's a spartan boy. They are just little gay assistance. Oh of course caddy caddy's for sure. How does that Negate Term Academy Otter caddies Taddeo follow you round hole the Oh honey? He's a caddy washes balls. Toma Club to you I fucking fighting was was never thing like anybody that doesn't like you're immediately. Even someone that gets elected those using rages like rage in the cage. Well don't Sironi we'll come back and fight hard and improbably win again in his career and like that whole motion like when you watch it over and over again you are here. I come out fueled good. Everything goes blank blank. I'm wobbly. It hurts he's just punching me in the face I fall down slowly and everything And my children girlfriend and wife whoever has to see this like a fucking like hearts because one quits over something like that such a humiliating thing to lose a fight on TV but also there was an if cell phone video of you. Getting knocked out hilarious. You'd be like Shit Chuck L. came back in his chin. was you know suspect. He's getting knocked out a lot. Thanks goes face I would never I would say is one of the greatest players of all time a kiss my Dick you fucking Mo- I can't believe you went down with that week as late in the game. DOZEN THAT'S J. O.. Kherson said that about Chuck Ladele. No I was telling I was reading reading You're saying that that came from your heart now on a national respect legacy when getting knocked out becomes a regularity and you just kind of know where we like all right good. He's shading. You taste the rubber now. I'm dizzy again. And your idea. I always sit Roy. Jones started getting knocked out of one fight. He was unstoppable and the next turn the ropes. Yeah no it was Glen Johnson elven. It was after Tarver not at Arbor to intolerance Tara an a an tarver tenant. Glen Johnson came in and knocked him through the fucking ropes. Johnson don't sleep on Glen. Johnson shut up Dan. Good a little it'll. CTE is brought up in these sports to even like wrestling and boxing. The kind of just brush. Oh Lot Mickley well but it's It's yeah it's a real thing but it's very yeah it's it's a fucking pile of bodies ought always pushed a football though. It seems more than it is. Is that other diagnosed hits Aaron Hernandez Florida. Yep You're going to be closeted gay and murder people did. Yeah you're GONNA want to. Boys computer enabled to trace the precise rats. Gay and murderer subject. Your bobby go to Worldstar and bring up the video that tell you about this now. There's just putting like Florida gators. There's a video. It says that team years everybody that they had the pouncey twins like. It's everyone's in some kind of pretty major trouble or dead buzzing around and I saw a tweet about how someone wants. Thirty for thirty on that gator country though they cover up everything thank. They'd let the Generis Jenkins. They found a body in his house. They play it. It's great it's all headed up by Tim. tebow like this weird evangelical religious odd guy sounds pretty bad ass. Sounds like a championship winning team well even Hernandez was so fucked up at the end. Oh Yeah I mean college fucked up by the time you know the end of the NFL when he killed himself and he's laying down soap like home alone trap. uh-huh oh Aaron Hernandez has gone full. Kevin mcallister could've saved him. But I slipped on matchbox cars. Oh man he's got broken. Oh can Christmas ornaments right here by the door and I had to take my shoes off for an ironic reason. Integrate thousand eight floors Michael Jordan train. The the wording of that is great. The two thousand eight Florida team was wild watches crazy. We do not talk about the two thousand eight Florida football team. We had urban Meyer Dr who allegedly covered up domestic abuse Aaron Hernandez Who Confirms Killed One guy and then allegedly killed a bunch more than and there was Cam Newton. They're right there. In Cam Newton Racist Riley Cooper. That's the worst. That's not so bad after murderer murderer. Insensitive guys by way rather cooper drunk fucking hillbilly at Garth Brooks Concert and Philadelphia. Elvia or whatever it was like a Kenny Chesney Riley Cooper looks nice about it is weird though in these days racists almost seems worse they're like this guy killed a bunch of people. This guy covered up a domestic violence abuse murderer and worst of all the guy who says no no words very intolerant lacks the pouncey twins. Who is that just makes it sound like two local guys that you know that run do dude fucking drink? All you're gonNA fucking ticket shit and your mom's hot tub or it sounds like fat sisters Greta. Fuck it talk to those making Grand Wendy Wendy. Those two little pigs will suckle making a rap video with the beach. Boys the lead as the Hashtag campaign Jenkins who had a dead body found in his house in two thousand eighteen sprinkle graduate assistance Smith who are allegedly covered up domestic abuse. For and who were they lead by two National Championship of Bible Thumping quarterback Ning Tim People. There's me or the white guys coming off pretty good. Yeah yeah like Tim. tebow super religious. Yes Christ Buddy Tibo hello pro life. Yeah like this one white coach Not Fond of Jews teen in whatever he does on team killing people. There was Chris. Renaud had them killing people. I mean we get arrested for allegedly sitting at the time time to hide his girlfriend way to text that threat. But that could be. And I'M GONNA need some context. That could be that could be rape fantasy could have been unlike. If you break up with me I'm GONNA kill myself. And then it was like time to die or she. She texted him. You know where you are. You're in the jungle baby. Actually she wrote back after that she goes. 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Mean Dave and Louis all went to go see billy Joel to garden. Dad is pretty much the whitest event in the world to be it is there was black people at Fleetwood fleetwood Mac for sure scurity. Yeah there was everybody mackel and there was actually black people at a this black Mike People at Elton John There was John but they were of the Aaron Hernandez Billy. Joel Billy Joel is white white. Dude Billy Joel cuts right through all of that share. You'll find a couple of black people at a Bruce springsteen concert. Oh Billy Joel. He cuts right through. you think Jimmy Jimmy Buffett Whiter Whiter than you remember buffets wider than Joel. Yes yeah buffets. The worst thing that happened to wipe that's the one was easy soft spot. I'm sorry well maybe he does perfect boat music. I'm not about the guy but who doesn't love US Restaurant Salon. I love his whole chain. But what's funny was. Do you remember this. I mean Dave laughing at this at the concert to each other was great because they go through his entire rhythm sections. This is Joe White guilt thing. Billy Joel they're going through it. Goes you know on On drums. You guys you know whatever veto bub-bubba on guitar this pre he goes through the whole thing and there's a black woman doing percussion just because you're not playing drums. She's doing all tambourine to whatever and I mean it. She's like she's somewhere third to last they announce and he goes on Percussion Karen so and so and the place erupts. She got more of a pop than anyone else and it was such a white nearly so everybody else doing backup class. You have black people. The Jimmy came from nothing. Your jerk off suburban talked bass player guys had it all laid out for so you actually. You're right the Georgia Tech Faulk Ham. You almost feel bad for her to have to deal with all this this white guilt because you know even she. She kind of feels that like okay. You're not weird. You really feel bad for the white guy who introduces right after her. Because it's like low level applause for everyone she gets a big pop and then it comes back to the next guy and it's right back down clearly sack. Sounds like come on on the size now. I know that doesn't even up his hand all the way before he's defeated the Guy Right. Answer goes right back down to temperate applause or billy Joel has to bring it up. He's like a saxophone player. Who just lost his mother and he goes there we go? We played by the second person after he goes to come on everybody. Everybody here works just as artist. Garin Erin he might have cancer. We don't know we don't know that five capabilities pretty scary. He's got a cough and it was. It is that it was too white. That's the problem with it. Being too white you need at least like ten percent non white. It was so white people are looking at me. And you like assholes bringing Lewis. Yeah I was like they. They were like well what he's going to go back and tell people now he's cool. Tell him he doesn't sing any songs in Spanish and then but then five minutes later Lewis is like what the fuck you looking at all right. He's not that cool dry. He doesn't know anything off glass houses like this. He's losing this part here Vienna Vienna. It's not on his list. Radars this little piano the whole time fucker. Play Piano Man Open and close. We'll wake you is so lane again like you do. Don't you realize what you're doing your country go to a comedy club. I mean I hate to say but you get that too especially in the middle of the country where they're like what we just have to pretend. This is great. No matter what I heard. I heard Yamanaka made the race thing. Pretty quick yeah she. She treated something. I just don't understand. Look even if you do feel like offended by something comics is. I just don't understand understand a comic publicly acknowledging that they're offended by another comic. Do you really want to play this game like you really. Because there's no logic to you're just like this one hits home with me so fine you don't make that fucking joke but every fucking one of us has a million things that someone else could just as easily be you like that hits home with me. It's just like you're just being sensitive when it's convenient to. Yeah get likes again. I have nothing. I'm not offended in any way by just said if I was sitting next to might have been like Joan that one dude sure we're good. I just a friend and you know it's GonNa unfold today. Say to me and we'll laugh together about it. I get it but the other thing the what comic shouldn't you should never even if something does offend you. No I don't know you don't publicly say and the other on it. The other thing you don't do is if somebody's fucking getting it from all angles. You don't don't jump in while they're fucking it's weird to pick your comedy. I hate the job. Hate the pylon as it's happening probably as we speak right now but judy golds at the Patrice. O'Neal no benefits and I and I find that to be insane performing on that. I mean she went at Shane for the whole thing and she also and then got called on it immediately as soon as she did that. They've releasing talk about you dropping bombs nonstop on this bit on rich. Well then just like push your way from the stand anyway because of that. Oh Yeah Yeah. That's what I sure. Yeah but still. It's like she's on the Patrice thing. Could that something stand less for Patrice in what he was the comedy. Then this yeah because Patrice aside witness. I spoke to Maureen about and it was booked before that happened in fairness. And it's like the reality is if I was in charge of that I mean I'd be happy to say. Hey you can't sit at the table if you're gonNA fuck turn on you know what I mean like what. What if I have an opinion on it goes so give it to that person? Call Shane and tell them how you feel about it. Well it's just like that is true. That's comics should confront another call. Seen what a concept I know isn't a weird. could straight person by the white. You WanNa fuck wild idea behind virtue signaling the cellar where Shane's not there and talk about it with a comics and say how you feel better but CNN dot com. Yeah Yeah Really. It's real weird to be like A. I think this is wrong. Also I'll be in San Francisco the punchline February. You know like you're like you're burying someone to promote your senior still taking away pieces of our job and what you can do when when you're fighting against our freedoms able to say the things that we say and it's it's very very weird like it'd be one thing if like Like and I still wouldn't agree with it but like if Brian Regan you know came out and was like hey you know. I don't really think comedy needs to be mean and like racial and like all this shit and you kind of like well. I mean he's like that's not what he does it all put when Sarah Silverman and judy gold and people like this. Come out and are like this guy's racist or this guy's like this was your whole stick. You made a whole career of doing this and by the way you were good at it like I'm actually but it's like so. How are you going to come out when you have a long history of this? So even if you've with grown to like this point now you're trying to cancel a guy who's fucking in the beginning of his career. She was already. He's already cancelled. You're trying to pile a highlight while it was up in the air. I forget when she after but put all these swords and regulations than they just fall all over them. And that's what happened with Sarah Silverman. Vermont's she went against black face but hers was done ironically so it was fine then. She lost a movie because of how. How long can you set up these rules before it comes for you with her particularly? It's the fine like you're a multimillionaire. And so now you're GonNa go cut off now. Yeah now nobody wants the money doing exactly that. It's just lame you like and now it's unfair okay. What do you have a lot? What was the same with Shane words? We're listening to a guy who fucking makes bird word. Call noises unreal. Yeah that's but I mean you know there are spot on. They were complete spot on good. I mean like you know they were very I mean like I said this the army should just like I don't know man he's fucking like again I've ever like I'm not offended. By in the lease I get I. I understand why people are upset. I get people upset. I don't understand why people are so upset on a personal by Kobe. Bryant was her thing I also think it's Kinda like what's Kinda queasy about a lot of this. A two is. I've heard people say who I know which I even have. This one's a little close to home like 'cause you're Lakers family. It's a weird thing to say. It's close to close to Home Mike. Alan Iverson's my favorite athlete of all time. If the same thing was done about Alan Iverson my reaction would still be like. Hey man what's the end game for this joke. You're making because it might getting a lot of trouble I wouldn't be like that's my guy. I don't care whatever the situation I said I spent a whole career career. I was like Fuck Koby Bryant. He was on the Lakers and beat the sixers constantly. Fuck Kobe. Here's the story. My reaction was more like. Oh that's fucking crazy. Let's say I didn't think to put anything. Negative negative about best not game my game. What's funny it would be funny to see that one thing in your friend that makes them take it too serious? We like Kemah Lajoie. Asia died. And you're like if I got the shakes. God He's No not Friday and you're like what the fuck are you talking about. Someone just going crazy. Awesome all this thing. The Joe Montana could get torn apart by wild hogs. That'd be like okay. It's a bummer. But if somebody goes is hilarious but he it was not Joe Montana Dude. Don't make fun of that desktop. At Ted who gives us well. If you go to a place called the south they do that with Dale Earnhardt. Yeah I remember my buddy what do you make a joke. On the radio about Dale senior. He's like yeah. God guided him with his thumb right into that retaining wall. I had a guy was getting death threats for like a fucking white that Guy Heckelmann and Dale earnhardt jacket. I said I hope you have the same drive home as his last one. Single fucking a bunch of good voice for waiting outside to kill me and they take that shit person and we're gonNA find it next week if Dan's kind of person but I'm the kind of person I am very. I'm sensitive in a way that definitely sports emotion can get me like sad About a thing but it's still like my own sports heroes. I don't have a feeling towards them like you know I would take a bullet for that guy. I don't get I. Don't get me the PEOP- The people that are that angry. I'm just like it's a weird to be there and I know some of them are going to say she's the sensitivity video of liked the daughter and stuff being there for sure but most people going like if you're sticking up for him particularly it's this thing of like he's one of the greatest players of all time it goes. I don't understand why you're this angry about it. Being like I said the best response I saw the whole thing was a guy who wrote a he goes. Are you lost. A Big Fan. IOS Goes He goes I was a fan dude but This is no good like this is too far. You lost a fan today. Another fan ruined the. That goes heady. Are you know. His daughter was a fan. I'm saying that's that's why that's why I worry about this. One a little bit because the guy who said he's not a fan of ours anymore. Underneath that comment comment wrote he goes do. That's hilarious and laughed at that so it's just like the always finding a line. Interestingly with people who have a line but it still falls more on the side of what our world our brand is. You know what I mean. But that's what's interesting. There's some of those people are going like dude are it's like I don't know how to defend this to people and that's what I'm worried about. People rational people on this are coming a little bit on the side of like. I don't know what to say do I look. I didn't see you. I'M GONNA give streep I heard it was pretty like yeah. That's the thing right. There that's like the the value in being a provocateur. Saying fucked up Shit. There's like what Manson how he defended tearing up the Bible onstage. Christians would be so pissed off people when you're kind of like yeah it makes you question where the line is where it is and then it's almost like can you really defend that. Could anyone really defend like well. The jokes not okay because a kid died. It's like okay but if that's the standard then you can't make a joke about like fucking hurt a hurricane or an earthquake or fucking and it really. You know what you have a player related or is the standard that it was the day up. Then it's it's like what is it that bothers perspective though Dave on the idea that let's say like you something terribly tragic happen to you and then somebody said something like some Shitty joke joke about that. That was just definitely GonNa hurt and be seen by or not definitely be seen but like it would hurt your wife. You know what I mean so my gal you still have the thing. What's what's fucked? You still have a similar personal stake in that but I I mean. I'm not sure there could be something that would fit that definition but I also just go like if it was something so oh horrible. Den a joke on twitter would be the least of my concern. I understand as you can start by understanding of getting people upset. Listen a good example when Kimmo it's killed fans when I talked about it on bonfire and here and everything we did a whole thing about it. fans came on and made like fucking pretty heartless heartlessly jokes about the situation. I didn't block anybody or pull down comments or anything because in my mind my idea of being hypocrites. Do you know what I'm saying. I go because I've goes. I go. I go these people are trying to make a joke with me in some way and their dislike Mike Do. That's just like well the only am I'm exactly he is. He's a five year old and a three year daughter. You know what I mean. That's that's what I'm going through my mind but go I've done this in some capacity otherwise so I'm not going to go not one time I go. Hey here's my friend and my because go to I get what you're trying to do. It's what you're feeding into exactly what it is you're doing it's fine like I don't even get that shitty about with comics. Though the thing about that I don't understand it three years years ago. You would have fucking blown already to be on his television show and you worshiped him and then he does one thing it just shows. That doesn't have the same power that shows loyalty in this business. Stabbing Milo thing with US mass solitaire. He goes man. There is no upward respect for all the people that are a young because of and I think it was that the the the everybody gets a trophy generation age. Yeah I think that was used to me which exactly that. That's what I said. Oh yeah that is right. You says that we're seeing the everybody that got trophy generations grown. All right you say so. What happens these young comics? Don't have like the man. If I work hard I can get as good as fucking Colin Quinn or whatever norton stuff I got they they come in and they go like Jim. No I'm just making example. Jim Norton's a fucking racist. It's the articles. I should be there so funny. Just being racist like I've got great jokes about living at my mom's house and she's my landlord. It's a misdirection about cats. What's the catch doing that stuff? I have merged you guys both really working those bits taking a totally different direction. Different takes all right twenty minutes of woke and then just tour with no bullshit and I said it was the cellar. Just now now seems gets booked like what's what's the lineup and you're not saying names anymore. It's like an Indian person. A black lesbian like every Jackson Jackson. What is this like? The sewer has fantastic comics still. I'm just saying like it seems to like appease of Forty Second Times Square audience. What's what's more blatant is like the television? The comedy central the net flex Shit like that. We're just very obvious WHO's getting on. For what and it's not even it's like whatever man do do. Oh you who the fuck cares. But then you see like comedy central's ratings like fucking imploding and it's like all right man. This is fucking your. I knew the best example of of it to me was with the comedy central when it really started. Change with that network was went. Fuck in John Stewart and Colbert left and by the way. This isn't even like an ideological political. 'cause they're they're all the same ideology. They're all left leaning people but Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert were undeniably. Great at what they did they were great and then they made a very conscious effort. Art Like we're going to go in the fuck in in the direction because the big complaint then was that well it's too straight white men and so they were like we'll give you. Trevor Noah and Larry Whitmore and it was just like yeah. But they're not good at this. Larry Larry Well Larry Show just immediately tanks because he didn't know what he was doing with Hannibal and also at that time called bear even like rolling stone talks about how he was kind of independent he was kind of middle. And you could see that I mean he was ripping apart Fox with the Eagle Eagle in the beginning and at which was l.. You know but he still knew like how to please be a little bit of both sides and now totally different well. What he was doing with that thing thing was funny? Yeah it was really it was. It wasn't just what he what he's doing now is like almost straight man. Yeah I'm a left-wing got what he was doing there. Was this brilliant thing ovarian. Yeah the Colbert. The report was as brilliant character where he owns being a super hard George W Bush fan to the point of absurdity and it would just be so fucking bringing on his gas attitude was also good he would take over interviews. It was awesome. It was really funny character thing you go out and it'd be pictures of him right over to do the interview it'll be like. Yeah off all focused on him. I think the thing is like you're seeing with all like podcast and everything the new I think the future is going to be sincerity. Like who sees being sincere. And who's like him comedy. I think not just in general I think just in the entertainment business because I think there's so many people that are fake like into comedy there's people that should be MTV. Vj's veteran veteran comedy right now is so like or like entertainment some guys though. I thought you said David. It seemed like something way up your alley on that. It really is. The Dan turns out he was. Yeah I just had one hit. Everybody gets stronger growing up because it was the same when Seth Simon that kid was on the seller. Houston that at all. I listen to like ten minutes I checked out I I I I. I didn't our of two and a half hours and I was like appalled at everything I heard he was coming. Dan Senate goes trophy generation. He just goes like now. The best comics in the world are working in these bar shows. You don't need them and it's because at three years in the comedy. They don't think they should be eating shit and doing shit shows that I did fifteen years in the comedy I mean because what do you mean I'm like they wanna bump rose and have I'm ready. I'm ready now. I'm ready to be in the clubs. Why would I not be ready to be in the clubs us and that was known was just like give me names? I'll book them stall dude. He goes tell me that was already why okay. I bailed after a few minutes because I can already sense the tone and I was like I don't know I think the only we own didn't want to be the only way to deal with a guy like this is to call him on on his fucking bullshit if you're not willing to do that and you're not willing to go like you know like 'cause right away within like not doing the you're wrong about me. I raised them. Yeah you can't be that you're not racist is just when he because right away he came out and he was kind of like Like calling me being racist I mean I have a black wife and this and even even that was already like This is bad and then he goes. Well it's not that I'm saying you're racist it's that like subconsciously. You're part of this systematic thing and if you're GonNa do that then you right away have to kind of be like okay. Well what are you doing subconsciously here. Like you're calling everybody out for their ulterior motives. What are your fucking motives? No one would know who you are or what you're talking about unless you were accusing choosing everyone of being racist so maybe you're a little bit motivated. And she's a fucking get something off nothing and you're bringing up race to defend yourself your leg. I've sex with black women. It really is w slave owners never did. Thomas Jefferson definitely didn't yeah. I just went halfway Goldstone. I love my I q say a kiss them all delete. My buckled shoes only loves it. I was halfway through halfway through the podcast and just heard him. Talking dislike Saturday you sat and I was like you can't do by the way like this like dipping your finger completely calmly and just going like well. I thought I said you're dumb. I think what you said is dominant. Here's why it's dumb unknowns like would tell me please book this place place. I'll give you unprecedented access all week. follow st around the process. The whole process works. He goes the best comics or working in these bars. They just just like they have no place here in the clubs and they don't feel welcome here because they're new comics. They all have their own out of bucket he goes he goes. Tell me how you know. They're good Give me their names. I'll book them not auditions to see if they work in the room. I'll bookham Jesus it's it's a fold now. It's a full it. It was weird. It was really weird. I like no. It was just bizarre. Take on why did you belong in the room. When you don't go and try you don't go and have that Awkward Introduction Action Work Yourself up and work your way up people hang out? That's the that's what you have to. It's the fucking process of the thing. Man You guys rolled dinosaurs. Yeah Eh we talked about this get you too. By the way exactly. It's Balmy says. I'm good daddy says I work hard. So fuck you made me a microphone. Trophy look at the look at the board when you guys go on the road look at the board. All around you of the WHO's coming up soon. And some of these people are looking at their first time on stage ever. They did forty five minutes. That's pretty chill this. That's pretty fucking impressive. First Time onstage. Do that's impressive. It's impressive oppressive. Their confidence level enough to just go. That's level of confidence. That's Kevin Hart Confidence Young. I knew he had so. Those guys are all going to become. Yeah Multi Multi Multi Multi Kevin Hart with fifty minutes of material would go headline colleges open form. Because I'd go how you GonNa do is he goes. I figured out and he would just play museum. Oh this this was some white shit here. Why do that Shit for and kill like a half hour of that and then I'll be honest? Jokes is Kevin Hart's famous. I'm already a little bit grip. Yeah see what they will as good us. I know I know he took my metallica ride. The lightning CD because Bannon Anna for from the bell toll turns out he had a whole bit about how many how different people walk into the club. That was a joke and and he used For whom the bell tolls from ride on ride the lightning right ethics. He used my cd to go that I stole stall from I worked at the CD store in the UCD's I just took it and it was He would do a white guy opening white guys walking club. I guess and you go Bam Dan in an AOL didn't didn't turn it up and he was a white guy. Walk into the club now. Five five minutes Making a white guy face and making his ass tight and that would murder I I WANNA see. I'm smiling as you described. Kill with it. We really walk in confidence now. Picture people who don't have clearly have has something something going. He's one of the most people in the world so he's GonNa go but everybody in these clubs believe that same thing they go. I'll figure it out like ISO clubs when people get famous on Youtube. They go you know if you make do live shows and do a door deal you can walk with like five figures on a week on a couple of nights. It's on the road and they go. Yeah figured out and they just do the difference rate. I'll tell you right away. The difference is that what Kevin like his instincts were going for. You're like what makes this crowd laugh. And their instincts are like playing to this late grievance ideology. It's just a different fucking thing you Own People Laugh it. It really doesn't. It doesn't even make them with something about laughter. Beautiful in Europe. pull it out of those people like fucking even like now when you really don't have it when you're just like a youtube star going on doing I don't even have a name these example quite honestly because you haven't worked hard to figure it out and go through the ranks starting to open Mike in Brooklyn and thank you know going there and doing like three minutes. Seven minutes sets that open mics. We were all together so no he. He put in effort. I'm just saying at a time. I'm when me and Metzker. We all started together. He has the workout though they they have the delusion and that's a different. Yeah sure I'm saying kept saying that even work ethic just more like the self belief that you can even do that if they came to me when I had fifteen minutes I felt roughly of comedy and they go I asked were Very Young Comedy Matt Frost. I remember number that playing basketball with the Muslim. I love some colleges. Dude he goes. Do you have forty five minutes from AOTEAROA. I went no he goes. I can never book to see if there's like forty five minutes. At least I was like Oh and I was like well cavs doing colleges. And that he's GonNa say yes. Yeah he said yes and he just goes off figured out when I get there and that's a different kind of thing so it's like these people have that and not everybody's got that kind of town or drives not even drive. They're not going like I'm working harder and doing more than everybody else. They're just going like I've done this. The crowds laughed alot comedy cellar. And then they're going and then on top of that they're going like Oh. I'm not in the comedy cellar. Why I'm Trans and I'm gay? And they're homophobic not that they book a thousand gay people just like the reason if you don't if you don't pass audition you're gay I eh across the board now. At this point I think with very few exceptions. The person's GonNa go guess there's no room for a gay person on the roster. Maybe this wasn't good enough. I even if they bomb they will if they bomb. They don't see the bomb. They go no. I did great and the club was like nope you're gay. We have enough gays more and most comics and they're could accommodate more what you have which is like I would show up and it'd be like yesterday thirty and you're like orange suit twenty five feature fuck you know I would have the guy over for me in San Jose. They I talked to Mike. The Guy opened for me in San Jose literally the host shops so he comes up to me and he goes. They got me doing when I'm doing a forty five. And then he goes to forty five before you what I go really because there's no host I go oh dude I go. I'll do do an hour. If you WANNA do twenty five. And then he goes he goes okay. quickey said okay. Thanks very funny this kid. So it's not a dig on that but I go. I actually do that obviously unless you WANNA do. I don't want to take it from you. Either it's an hour and a half show still so if you want to do the time like you could do the time. And he goes no oh I was like Oh then yeah then. I'll take the time back. I'm like that's crazy to ask you to do that. I want to eat the bullet for fifteen and just chew it for the next because I completely by the way I said my instinct was so the negative as was his that it was funny that at one point I was. Maybe he's positive. It was like forty five minutes right now. I'm not taking that away from you. Isaac No God please. I came here to the twenty five minutes and I'm like Oh then do twenty five minutes. 'cause that's a fucking weird thing they ask if you then hey you wanna Goku by the way not even cold forty five minutes you want to go out there and do a harder job than the headliner. You're forty five minutes cold that's crazy. I just learned that Lake like young that you better have back a materials at the punchline one night and I was hosting and understood went up name Special K did really well and then the guests that was ron white in and they're like Henry show stuck in the elevator time I'm like yeah. Just go follow Ron White in his home town in two thousand and four the fucking height of the blue collar and like thank God. Henry walked in after like three minutes and I was like. Oh thank Christ come you start feeling rough like the ocean unforgiving cherifi experience so much alcohol. Stop at Gay Mike. You son of a bitch did the leave at eleven thirty bucket. I didn't even know you guys are just fun to talk to. You absolutely have to go. I'll hang out for a few more sure. Yeah I mean well. Shall we give do plugs now share. That sounds about right blogs that does sound great. Dave puggle your stuff. My friend. Dave landed dot com on this weekend. You can see me at the Looney Bin and also Oklahoma because comedy clubs have shitty names and you can check out my new album nimble fingers on itunes and Amazon spotify wherever you can get music and all their tour dates Dave Landau Dot Com. Daniel bonfire Monday through Thursday at six PM. PM coming since Radio Sirius. Xm Ninety five. Dan SORTA DOT COM. We'll be in San Diego. La San Francisco Denver and Madison GO TO DANCER DOT COM for tickets in season. Five billions of these tonight on fire may coming out on May third so also son of Galleria report Davies plugs to auto. You have dates. Now I got some days fuck. Yeah Dude Smith February seventh. I'll be in Boston at the comedy. Hide Out That's almost sold out. So if you WANNA come go grab them now. And then I'll be in Philly jays hometown on February twenty first. Doing live part of the problem and live stand up show raw Bernstein's coming with me on both those shows go check that out and then part of the problem Libertas us all available here at guests digital network dot com. Oh Yeah Dude let me say for Lewis. Of course Louis Schulman's presents shade Gomez is the website. Go check him out on tour right now. Some Solo dates. I believe and a bunch of dates coming up still with Kurt on the issue. Then well tour make sure you check that out. Also scanning fest tickets Still on sale. We have no. I know more single day Saturday. I believe there's still some three passes and there's still some Friday and Sunday single day passes downing all those times when Lewis was plugging stuff. I know I know what's going on. Get tickets now. We have so many fun SURPRI. I know I was involved in a little text through back to back. There might be some fun surprises coming the skunk fest but it's going to be an unbelievable party So you know I live Christine. So I'm watching the whole production. Kinda come together here. They're doing a really good job and it is going to be there for sure. The year I mean fingers crossed but it looks like David Duke is common also also my guess would be. This is the last time we're ever going to do a remote location outside of Los Angeles or New York so it's going to be such a unique experience also and you WanNa be part of trust me because I just know the lineup. We already have is amazing. The potential surprises are out of this world. Skiing Fest Dot Net. Get your tickets for that now Big EJEI COMEDY DOT COM dates. If you're listening live please this weekend. three shows at governors and Long Island LEVITTOWN location. I think I believe as it is right now Carla. MAC's wife hosting. Yeah her boyfriend. Mike Keegan featuring this is this is uncomfortable. It's hot it's GonNa that'd be fun that's Great. That's hilarious like show hot and then Isabella's hanging out over the Water Christine's doing voice God Man Bring Grandma's Abella selling merged. Everyone's doing something it's worth the partridge family Now it's going to be a very fun show. I've never been out there before to headline so please. Only three shows let's sell them out BIG COMEDY DOT Com. DC next weekend with Justin silver is going to be with me the DC Improv also I WANNA make sure we've packed that room out so please get your tickets. Big J comedy Dot Com hustlers on demand. You can see me in a few times get it girl get it girl. Oh so check all that out and yeah thank you so much Dave. If you have a few I think we're GONNA do a you have to leave. I know at some point. Yes Dan got to wake up for Billions tomorrow he did not expect us to start so late but I do want to show you guys. I had this bums me out and bobby. I'm GonNa see if you look at just the subject here because some reason I've looked on myself and I can't find this video but I can't save it and send it to bobby but a guy sent me a video this week on facebook that I can't send out anybody else for some reason but it's a video of I wanted to make a new segment but I couldn't send us video you too bobby called not all heroes wear capes and I'll tell you who is some unsung heroes of the world are this guy sent me a video of a man it starts off for the man getting his Dick Sucked by a woman seems like A. I can't tell her face at all. But like body seems okay and then it pans back to now. She's being actually double teamed what she being double teamed by Dave. I could see your inquisitive face asking what's on the other end of this guy an amputee ramp. Ut with a stump leg fucking her in the pussy with the stump leg and I wanted to make a new segment called not all heroes where capes. If you're we're a person accepting someone's amputee body parts big ass pussy now you've got a big ass pussy you got a big heart or 'cause that's for sure wild lyle bobby. I'm pretty sure if you just look up amputee sex stump fucking is what I would put in A Stump Fox. It's pretty outlandish. There's a a lot I don't know this video is all the guy is so for the sake of argument. Let me show you the picture rushing Gillis at the party with fucking hilarious. What happened at the Party with Judy? Gold now is part of that are deleted the Sweet earlier. Yeah Oh did he pulled. Yeah all right the Luke Perry one is still. I'm a little disappointed are deleted. You gotTa Fuck in Weiner at this point. Ma'am go pretty far. Yeah there's plenty of screen shots. Yeah it's yeah it's definitely not the The video didn't help. No that was like a company piece. You score it the whole thing. That's pulled down all right. We gotta do that makes sense. Yeah probably a little late. If you're going to do that yeah I sure don't yesterday at one point it was on world. starbucks wasn't got pulled from their somehow. Wait the video was a big deal background files on there. Yeah you want to make sure every black person world and me sees it Worldstar. Even Obama checks like no matter what level of black you are going on in the hood. Bobby you got you gotta be stumped fucking I have Sev- seventy three pages of stuff eh. Guys Great News. What a thriving subculture you're right every to shed light on the ends of the universe here? Where else are you gonNa Watch stump fucking? This is leashes skanks. This isn't bonfire fodder now. Let's let's fire it up at hunter. Let me see if I need to leave. It's like twelve. Oh thirty I'm GONNA hold you. We've got one more video ten more minutes Dan. I'll ended a twelve twelve. We've got to wake up at five hours. I know handsome I know for stump fucking when you have to win. That allows off. I really that was worth an. We don't don't fucking Dan you're going to be like I hung in the rights is really that was really worth it. You know a nice reasonable conclusion during plugs. You GotTa see him with Paul Giamati but have you seen a woman's come on a stump. Yeah have have you though. If you're so leg taken off by an alligator get come down. I'd have you but I question really is. Have you seen that really doubt that the women's is coming on the stump I think she's she's surviving that stuff. Gets Jim limb pain. Bobby Bobby Bobby throw a dart dude. Dude yeah this is called her box. Mostly the female withy stump. I'm trying to find mostly female. The male the Bull Shit Dude. Hey let's call it Yet you know see oh. I think I found one vacuum bobby over the headphones ago. Who knew here's a real good Christ? My Best Christ Christ next page ooh Oh going into. Aw Aw oh that's it. Why is it going to hurt more? Because the black stump they're bigger. She's really getting opened up she goes. I'd rather take the stuff in the cock. Oh my jerking off off and stumping her father. Yeah Yeah Oh she had given his dixie. Half's off there's a gun on them Cha Cha Cha it looks like a fat guy. Look at this and think at some point a girl looked like at least like her at at least in her. Realm of looks turned you down for Pussy before. Yeah she's not unattractive. I mean from this angle but team on stuff eh. I'll tell you what this girl here straight up pretty. She's a very pretty girl. And there's officially know God and there's a chance when there's A. There's a chance if she isn't like something you say when you take her to dinner like sort of just doesn't agree. One of your stances. She might not fuck you. But she's allowing herself to get stumped fuck. I don't I think this chicks turning you down over your political. Now I'll tell you what also she's very poorly pants and mining fucking the stump. She said she won't put it in her but she'll act like it is and she's doing bad. The one behind hers was smiling and rolling her eyes at the same. She's stumped back. I tell you the bummer of what's happening here shows me a video that I can't put out. There is because because the one I got bobby and you walked create. This guy is the Dan I mean he is deep penetrating stop. He is her pussy. Is Spread Open with leg. League pretty awesome. This is this is a lot of just rubbing. It's been bobby do me favor. This is insulting the art of Sex. So can you please take it off. If you you find a respectable stump in pussy video would you please. I'm looking underneath dump in ASS. That's a gaping astle bobby. I'm curious to me favor. Can you act like we have a guest who said that we need to see some anal stump fucking Babacan. You pretend that we care about our guests and maybe look into that. Thank you the Diet Coke. Well let's have a real party. I'm sorry Landau. Sometimes we have to really. We have to come with crack the whip on these gotTA motivate. I get added Bobby. Do you even care about this job and you find me some respectable stumping pornography. I want US find step the. PK Yes do. What are we say to me laugh so it was that ad read discreet stoned? And you said you go to work to it to it. Does that mean like duet like you're doing it like the guy and the girl I do it and I was like. I don't think that means so because I mean you could do a duet you wet with two guys and that's cool. That's so cool. That's totally. Let's chill to do it. I'm not I'm cool with it. Probably as far as noted Ugh porn goes where how are you where are we should find no arms. No legs spun. Oh quadra watts mcnugget porn. I knew that you did yeah. Brady's Bernie can look them up to the epilepsy as married enemy. Put us about Out My first thing I said I do. You want me to shake that he was not and he just walked everybody else does. Nobody's ever talked to me like like. I just didn't know what to do. You want me to shake ticket now bro. Smell it smell that not talking a lot of questions. We are right arm of a couch as it feels like the skin under under your but take a hit with a bone in bone the cool name that's a CB handle hip bone tip bone on CBS bone. Get Bone funny. Story is plus informing accident. Just happens what are we got bobby where we at this is. Were you need Lewis to fucking screen. It's a lot of a lot of the girls are with the ones with ample here. You're saying like it's bad and it makes me feel like your sex misogynistic. People can have sex to with their nubs. One guy with no arms jerk off earth perfect. A flipper beak do you want to see a flipper. Beat reminder took out for the idea of being able to see this. I just want you to see what we could have seen here. Okay I mean watch how much this guy is given the business okay. He's having a good time. It seems Oh oh my God ramage's Yes for sure side. Yeah I see I think. That's s zoom in. Bobby we I mean there you go. One day is J. J. Funeral. Oh My god God oh so much glare censored. Oh no I want everyone. It's good. It's good review bobby. Why did the studio have to be professional? This getting fucking now. Hang on a beach with a shirt. I got back to him. Beach full t shirt John Still rock-hard watching Milosevic Heroes Capes. Everybody Oh my God. I'm I'm wearing a shirt from xpress. Is it a Pussy Pussy Pussy. Don't be crazy to walk into kiss bananas. Shit Hitler saying your head before you talk would you have rights cinematography angle like how it starts charts on the guy and then it zooms out further and it's the guy with. Oh definitely Welsh. I like it comes out further. And it's all inside moral all inside Allergy Necklace the whole thing just living on a dog nickless dude. That's crazy that's just one locker sir. All right everybody. Everybody wants to get out of here Dave Child Yeah Right now. Dan's gotta do work in five hours about five thirty. Oh yikes okay You'll be Dave Headley half hour ago so I appreciate Louis. We miss you. We hope hope you feel better about it. I got a text from Lewis. I guess maybe we all got a text from Louis but I just saw and he's he's doing okay. He said I'm going to die. Yeah yeah got that. Yeah just so Lewis going to die Peace be with you and also with you and also you. We Love You Louis. We'll be back next week. Lie Back Stand. Maybe maybe unless we're cancelled allegiance GECK's been listening to the Legion of Scams podcast. AST WITH BIG J. O.. Kherson Release Up. On of a shepherd of shit hits. Luis Gomez archambault. I was J Gomez breakthrough talking John. I want to punch you in your fucking nose. Male punch-up a magic in his fucking head and comedian. David Smith Smith Fuck you. I feel like if I wanted to be gay fucking. Stick your fist up your ass. You blew the Legion of skanks podcast. Yoda Ding-dong we're done here time to go.

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Episode 475 - The Lie Detector Test - Jessica Kirson

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Episode 475 - The Lie Detector Test - Jessica Kirson

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If there tonight I know, what rainy ones! What's jazz more relaxed J. The snot fucking playing eighties rocket. Dome Daddy. Back cadillacs I'm so excited to have our guests on today. Everybody one of my favorite comics to watch in the world is Hilarious Jessica Pearson everyone. I'm so glad to hear. It doesn't matter at this point. We talk. Kirsten right. Yeah, but everyone says here's an I. Don't care enough about myself to correct. Sad. You still care doing that. I don't I'm like the cure season. Of asshole would correct somebody if they got their name wrong has anybody. Has Has it ever been wrong on a poster or a comedy club? Expelled and stuff yeah Johnny Carson. The funniest one I. SAW WAS SAL VOLCANO IN WISEGUYS UTAH. There's pictures of it Sam volcanic. Arguably one of the most famous people's walk your doors man this. Sam Book. He probably brought a sellout fucking Tuesday. Sample. I'm I'm really excited to have Jessica on the show because she for every time. She down so excited she look is going to be graphic amid a Shiva. Should. It's going to be rough day for some people in here today. Possible well. Buddy I was I hope we have music for, but it's lie. Detector tests say which is very very exciting. I think we have music. There's no he didn't drop. They didn't do anything you know we we prepare for it. All they do is just something. Was it just Congo's. Is there a? It's GONNA kick in soon very long lead. Forty seconds. For questions suspenseful. I'm not a producer Christina. Tell you producers bone in my body, but you've just got the simple law. Notre Gung Gong to something. To something to signify that we're about to fuck in. Don't do exactly what j just said. Use that as inspiration. They want it by the way the. Typing for the Congo law and order look deleting right now. backspace backspace his best. Bobby also do this then turned. down. Can they take their shirts off put? Yes, one guys. You have to up in the Booth Jessica. Cove related reason. Off and show your tits Bobbio also by the way can I point out that Alex has become a major horn instagram? All she does. Is She she hula hoops in a bikini? Why? Yeah! What's your name on? Like a pig. What's going piggy at I M Alex Scar? Yes, she's A. Car. Yes you pull up some of the videos you have on your phone I now. Can we see some of the videos for the sucking? Yeah give me. Alex a single too Jessica by the way freshly single. She's not a lesbian. She looks too happy that. Trust me. She has to be dead in the is Alex admit you love this girl circle back around. Jessica's knows resting on your muff. Admit it. Admit it you bitch. With picking the wrong data go at Alex, here when we're going to be asking them. When we ask them questions. It's led to protest A. Jessica what you're going to strap you up with the lead detector as well Oh shit. Some things that you some untruths that you might have until don't wear producers. Put No effort into this bit so the day anything up. Don't worry. The word! Have you been sending messages to underage women. Crazy! Shit have you been in contact with sixteen year old girls nonstop. Meet me after the show will scissor and I'll give you my autograph. So we have that coming up in a little bit, but I don't even have the lie detector tests works. Me Either Bobby any of US do bobby coupon? Maybe an image has while you describe it test. Oh, no, and no one knows how to use it. What you did it already out and. Put this whole show together as you can tell from the music that they had read. Quality. Wow. Is Is this so so yeah. The lie detector is willing to strap. You guys in it it judges, your heart rate your breathing, and also your sweat your participation on your skin. Your what? What a Shame. Has Executive. Producer guesses it'll. And touch porcupine. is taken this business. Get so hot that I start participating. April copy and you'll put. Line this is after Lewis and Ralph the next most. In this company is bothering. Detector test is judging your participation. Under bar if you participate. If you participate, you must be lying. Checking sweat, Yuppie be and your breathing and your brand, but I'm heavy. Sweating breathing. Arts of? The before. I'm always having a stroke that things not accurate with me. It's. Foolish. I'm not a liar. Along with on the fourth. Way I do have boy. Nice boy. Just extremely nice boy air. I'm so excited that I want to acknowledge gay. Mike is Jessica's look at them three times like she's worried that maybe she only sees him and he's done. A man makes everybody sees. This This is my grudge. The internal Gay Mike died five years ago. Game. I can't. Why would you bring up? Gay Mike. Night just like this one. A sound like garbage truck. Game like we don't even know if he's Gay I've never even asked, are you? Know, we have confirmed he in fact, not gay. Oh, he just. He's always been pleasant enough to respond the Game I. Yeah! God, help me. Cutting. A hard time. That was a horrible exchange just now up cutting. The pickup eating disorders and cutting your forty. I've often I I've never I never thought about I never thought about the leamy as a child ever. In. My Thirties and forties at times. Like what if I just puked all the Shitty Neal's eight Oh God, I lived in a Sorority House University of Maryland there was a line down the fucking hallway. Every night to vomit! Jewish cars like Oh my God. We are at Mason Jars. Special with a girl puked on all the jars and store them in her closet. Special was just kind of freaky like I. Don't remember that you remember that she gets. She's blaming and Puke and jars. This is real. No, after school special. Oh, so it was just like acting it out just album I. Believe was one in one of them were. She got beat up by her Her boyfriend was on steroids and he's back around so hot. Do Oh God to oversee the one the steroids Ben Affleck and it'll just four. He gets big and he starts fighting people that aren't doing anything. Mean to them so over the top. They had a lot of like. Hey, are you done using this like? Was a lot of stereotypes about steroids in the eighties that turned out. In, the nineties just makes you hit a lot of home run. Awesome she's big muzzles. You Dick actually gets bigger really. Bigger balls get smaller. Which probably makes your Dick? Look bigger ou nobody ever pointed that out. Is that your with your balls? No, you're right. You're ball shrank, but you dick by comparison. Look at much bigger as Scott. My Dick huge go to your balls gets more. You Know I. Think my Dick Rule. Wise it is it. Is it working now? Ask. My victory. was and I was worried. I was at my balls. Grow to say didn't I guess there's rally where before? This thing doing this Ellis Mania Fi and I. Are you doing that? On the books today, th. We were doing verse Alice. Jamie Brazil I. Did I went on his show. We both talked it out. Where this so, but my thing is I like there's no testing. It's sells mania so shoot. Just do steroids. And fucking just. Paid. Months six months with steroids lots. Of Steroids for six months. How long does it take to really see the results? Pretty quick really. A month or two? So, it's never been like I have no results doing. Decade nothing yet, but I was getting I was getting results for sure, but you're going to see. Is You're going to see Serbs are going to make you more muscular or make you more. No, that's the mistake that I'm saying those after school special you take steroids and you have road rage the next day, and all that stuff and I think you do have that I. Think you have a lot of a lot of energy to you? Take steroids and don't work out you're. Change at all. It's only it's recovery. No, I, know exactly what it's. It's recovery. It's energy it gives you. There's there's different series that do different things. So the swelling down your body. Your body will adapt quicker. It will recover quicker. But I don't think it's like it's like it's not like a crazy solution. Think steroid. So Weird Equa Poise and Jay ended up winning that race I want you but I'll tell you what if they were tested? They would take that cutback. Testimony have gotten the Belmore. Cup Ecuador's. This sounds like a nice Jim. equinoxes. Place, it sounds like a nice pad for period, presumably a Horse Jaguars Equa. Queen. Horse. Your high, yeah. That's why it's called Echo I'm totally mesmerized I'm just sitting here listening. I feel like I'm learning a lot. Together in our forties Roy. Start cutting. And we'RE GONNA we're puking. Steal it, but just the bad meals. Were GonNA throw up grilled chicken and vegetables waste time, but we get rid of after chicken vegetables then. Ice Cream is great to throw up because. You're going to eat bad after the good meal and somehow only puke up the bad meal. Because it's after you're right. You're on mixing your stomach, right? You gotta eat the bad meal. Up goes for chicken and rice. Now. The Rice is not good you don't have. A little bit of brown rice. Now you gotTA. Keep coming in your. FUCKING BELIEVE YOU'RE GONNA put carbs into your body afterwards. It's ridiculous. Good point I'm trying to be responsibly. Believe in my forties. Are you listening at all? Looking. fuck my face with food. Throw up and then take vitamins I'll be fine. It doesn't sound like an unreasonable plan. You can't. CUT ON EMPTY STOMACH A. Again like the fly flicks now. Where would you cut I? I don't know. Please hair. Lewis would kill for this lushest. Whatever you could you? Would you rather have Jay's hair current haircut? Your Bald Head My. Only or cancer? If I had Jay's haircut I go to Jefferson both a haircut. Take off. Offers okay look directly at the camera. We need people to put Jay's hair on me. So we need to give them a couple of shots. I. Don't think it would look good on Lois now actually to be honest with you to looking at it. It'd be way better. It would look Jay that hair would look better on me. Sure we'll find out I guess. Phenomenal. Crack production crew got behind us by giving us some sound effects for the. Lie Detector Tests. Goodness I have nothing nothing nothing at all. No different one bobby, not that one. Not, that one is a vampire tracking. It's down alley. Eaten garlic today here. A little inside. Can you tell me that I'm chomping the bit for news? You said there's no yeah I tony. Chess I in or do at least one of them we can do. About the show I'm telling you when we lie detector. We're going to be all in on lie detector, so we should talk about whatever else for a little bit I. And we talked about this we. We had a meeting of the show. We're going to protest I, is that? Excited Oh so at rides throughout the show here, right, you're right. We did okay, we do it. I like that was actually a pretty good Bobby Orr Alex as inspector music. Music on. Can you also have you hula hooping in a bikini? Wally do that. That's actually a perfect job for the detector tests. It is funny how? Good she is at hula-hoop. She pretty good at pretty sexy. They bring a video of it. Yeah, I wanted to see, she's sexy fucking animal. I said it's sexy. Look at her. You said it's sexy. That's saying Alex is sexy. Active Alex Hula hooping bodies pretty righteous. She had a bigger boobs. You've had hot. Oh my God you. fucking smoke show I'd smash. I smashed Jessica I'm not saying I wouldn't smash. Obviously, he's your boss. She's doing real fucking sexy, can you? The meals do the drop now. The drum now. They're both being done from the same computer can do damage Alex. That's very good. You're looking at looks so goddamn sexy Hula Hooping, according to J. Yeah. Kansas Look Sexy James Your employees. Your employees, also your employees. You're subservient. Well what does the subservient? She subservient to me. You subservient to you Alex. I don't feel that way about you. Well. Let Me Shock. Both of you guys. She's thirteen when you're both on doormats. Video a sexy Alex. is that insulting that? I appreciate that make you uncomfortable now. Get Her Strap Alex. Jones right now. That would be good if the questions have I ever done. Over. Comfortable! She, I think she would come up. She said No. She belongs. I can think of time China stopped trying to everyone. That! He's made Alex Uncomfortable Alex. Is just emitting shit because someone else is about to get strep to go fuck Alex Jones five years ago. Ain't nobody comes up. I, want to let it out. Put it. Nobody would've asked if I'd be they also comfortable. How Comfortable. We get control that sucks. Your your denial right now means nothing bobby talking to the microphone. Sorry both of our. Way More impressive because we did a lot of that just years ago, which was a silly one? This was pretty crazy. Alex is fucking tying it to her little sexy way. Right Jay Sorry, I, was lost I was lost. You can, you can talk to me for reference to. It's fun to talk to lesbian about this. Shit an animal. This year. Yeah of course Mac plus she has great posture. She owns it. Yes, she does it sexy when someone's confident like that. Would it be? You're saying? She's owning her her. Skeletal Lush. Owning it like a slave Ju- imagined. What is the only you're? Owning. Her body like she's seems very confident comfortable in their own skin, which is sexy. When in women's like that to me? Yeah you like that. Oh look. If Alex was the best friends with my ex, we'd be begging right now. Right now would you be into that, or is it just his decision? Wait till she's hooked up to the site. X question but I wanted to show scientifically. What the answer right! How does the? You ask her some control questions bobby. Questions S OR WE S. Brings up tells you what's ass. Right down the questions as we're going okay, okay very cool. So the ethic copies found his real calling in life. Brought topics podcasts. Here on the guest, it'll network guys. Go subscribe use that Promo Code LS support broad topics, looking at trying to make up for all the bad things he said today. anyone notice that nervous Jay is. Anyone notice a nervous. Jackson call deflection in the highest form right there. You. Look how? Nervous fucking. Hammered. You're trying to get your fucking nerve street. Terrible things are going to get. Drunk while you're saying this, does it make the results, not accurate? If you're drunk, listen I. Think it's all this. Alexa Prone Trinh. Probably combination to beat us, thank. You hold them. What how about boost par and then milligram? Are you. I was given booth. That near us, so you're giving it, but you don't take I haven't taken 'cause. That's yeah because. You're giving it. And then you just say take i. take like I was given election. I'm assuming by a doctor. Have you ever taken the bar. Yeah the I. I got I he was gonNA live. Tetris has room. Right. I do coke off my daughter's forehead a prescribed drug. We'll figure that out. Asked me if I've done coke offer Jason. Sensitive. To this question, she's got a great forehead for you can ask about the far head, but don't ask about any other body part. Alex for Audio Listeners Alice Right now she's wearing a very tight top Jay thinks to sexy, but that's neither here, nor there I didn't say that at all. If you stretch shopping I'm just reading your mind Bro you're my best friend and I don't really so nervous. I'm not I'm fucking. Booze never been more ready. Went literally. Fighting I ache sometimes get nervous. Add an extra syllable word. You're right, find and you drag a few of the syllables. Go. SOLILOQUIES? When. Slip Slap slipknot. So. So Bob you'RE GONNA ask control questions. This is very interesting. She scripting your computer. You had a whole program bobby to do this. Yes. This actually comes with the probably gonNA. Take three weeks of FBI training. King was for software. Wow, this is good and allergies. All hooked up Alex the fact that Alex is. On your stomach, and then two things on your finger, three things on your finger, the two houses, so it's GonNa slide down to her puss. Can you tell lies there? The box on chest. Breasts. Box Bobby Orr fucking breasts. My ass doesn't lie. And the two things on our left or Fingers for sweat. We know what they're for L. Yeah. The stink. A. Sweat. For the stick. Okay, so, it tells me i. i. have to let you know. Please remain perfectly still. Face, actually Lewis. You're lucky. We have you right now. Jessica jail. Spot don't make me Boehner up under the sweet Mahogany table to. God. By the way I've never been more. Alex Howson. Thing where you cross your legs and Shosha Pussy. My. and. She got off of murder. Has Lewis ever harassed me. There's a huge black cock and their. Key hula-hoop! So. Please remain still. Don't move. The polygraph will detect live. Isn't. have to read these off. Participate okay those. Are you OK allies to answer the questions truthfully. Bobby each question. Answer yes or no. Music. Shouldn't it be funky music on right now? Part of the Production Mike is game I can him. He's got the ghost of Gay Mike to do it no way. We may or may not be recording right now. Game I, do not trust. Go gave to go and actually. His fingers go right through the Kiosk I can't. Have you ever watched the documentary about the kid from nightmare street to that became a gay I sort of because. He says like the movie made him gay in some way. It was a very gay script, and then he got. Society is gay and has AIDS. Now that's he really. He somehow dials all that back to the street to. It's sort of a big deal. That don't Amazon says. Screenplay. Which is a great title? That's a great title. Scream. Queen is a great title. He just wants an apology from the writer for writing such a gay movie. It's not funny for all the wrongs. Yeah, I got to see it. Okay so here's one of the Have you ever lied about something serious. FUCKING BITCH! Do you feel that beat of participation building on your forehead? Jessica, treat for the ship out for even the control question. Is Christ total yet between each question. Just the feeling are fucking heartbeat and all that other they have to measure okay, so they measure reaction like well after you've told the Li- like okay, where come down, bitch turns out. That was a lie. You've never lied or she, so that was a aliveness ultra. Have? Have you ever lied to a person of authority? Both Oh you better. Watch was it may was it may not the questions Louis? That's going to be one of my questions. That's GonNa be my questions this. She lied to me I thought controlled questions. Like is your name. In fact, Alex took is pretty tough for the control question. Do. You think your parents are proud of you. What is the meaning of life you like? DOGS OR CATS Have, you ever murdered someone. Actually goes down police station. Dogs or cats to have you ever murdered? So? Have you ever cried? Question. Has Anyone referred to you as Alex? Fisher that. I think is maybe one or two more. So if the control popped up his ally, that would let you know that like something's wrong i. think they're just trying to get an like the. Base. Requests to find out what your truth meter is. If you lie, making are a little nervous to how nervous she gave a certain questions I like this. This is fucking high-tech. Look at those thick white wires. Those are boobs. Jesus Christ yet. That's just an. It's an ipod. Have you ever drinking after ranking? Driven after drinking. Have, you ever drinking? These are pretty well. Oh my God. Wow, you fucking! We've already. Behavior at it. Didn't seem drunk after drinking alcohol. That's Base Hey. Who hasn't drive after. Be a lawyer. You got your client off on that one. You'd be I asked Jerry have. You seen her Hulu. Would somebody like that? Amid a crime latest fixer Hula hooping now imagine she was white now pitcher, she's white. ALL RIGHT ALL RIGHT! I. Love those ask girls. All say the same age. Okay that'd be way better lear in the movie. There's just. No it's it's loading. I think we're going to be asking her the questions now. Okay I loaded in five questions, so if you want five questions. Five questions okay well. I'm we have to ask you? You ask I Alex. Has Lewis ever made you uncomfortable. IS I. We gotta to ask this again. Because now, okay, now already asked the question I thought you said we were ready. Alex has Lewis, ever made you. Seconds. One of you guys get the next tonight, Jessica. You get you guys. Get One. Well. There's you said there were five more questions, Israel. On. W. Yeah. This is fuck in this is what if Alex lied about that? Though which I did, make her uncomfortable. We're GONNA. Find that outright man. When do we get the results after we're done with the? We find out the truth right after this. So you know the answers right now if they're lies told by Amazon. The end hold on big Joe why. Did everyone just noticed big, jagged, nervous and discredit the lie detector test. Allowed us more in the room. You're so clearly nervous. Notice how those guys! was. Are, we. Know. Jason Nervous I don't even want to know. The truth or whatever it's killing. I can't watch us. Kill my friend. Okay, we're ready for question to question to. Alex! Has Big Jay. I'm nervous already. I don't know why well this is nervous. GotTa to get a clear. Alex has big j ever made you uncomfortable. Sexually! Talk? Gifted physically I sat on. Imagine, he wrote rollercoaster you. Matching like. You're on the wrong side of the carton. Ride at a carnival scrambler. She sat on the left hand side of me on a scrambler. Pillar. DUCKER SMASHING! Oh, I got to be on the inside. I always gotta remember that a gala ready question three. we know Dave's ever later uncomfortable. Are you afraid of Louis. Now. Song. She thought about that. That that might come out a stop at your. Already. Test will tell us. Jesse got one knives a thing for. You can put the music on. It makes some more. Have you ever done anal with a heavy Jewish median? Those specific. We ever helped out by women. That was a waste. That was a waste now. She's s or something like that. ooh I have a good one. Yes but everyone. Have a good one after okay. Are you attracted to any of the men in this room. That was apply now. Discussion is it may better. Question, how do we figure out who with can I ask a question about Louis Making you uncomfortable again? We don't widow out you could say. One Person MOJO On. Yes, or no only know was thinks attractive. You WanNa. Fuck him for sure Hell Yeah. Lewis took that even just that it was one of the three of US Louis already took as consent. Is it time for another question? That was the last question. No wasn't how much it just deterrent. Bobby. Had No idea why I'm searching for this thing and it doesn't as. This. Wonky! Has All these rules you can't have. No! Jews GONNA ask questions. After ten. PM, this thing is shit all right. Turn turn off the music now. He's fucking price. Fuck him for the first question. Has, Lewis ever made you nervous. She said no, and that is the truth. Thank you, thank you Alex believe the question was uncomfortable. Knows uncomfortable. The next one was I. believe in career both uncomfortable. Sexually Line though specifically. Has J. Ever made you uncomfortable. She said no, and that is the truth. Wanted you to make her a fucking comfortable I, can't that question was vague enough that I can't believe neither of them have ever made you uncomfortable. Right at all to like I I'm surprised by that, not not even a sexual interest in a story that was told. That smell. Specifically or smell. Very soon. Actually, what was the third question Lewis? Do. Y- about Louis the third question. Don't remember what it was. What was the question? Has Lewis ever. Are you afraid. Of Louis. And she said no, and it's considered undetermined. Wow, I like that one. Yeah, that one. Yeah. She wasn't even sure herself, yeah. I like one of the choices is undetermined. That wouldn't be good in a court of law as Children and it was undetermined guy. Don't wear my daughter. You can't. You can't use the shit in court ever can now. Skin core. Yes, well, okay, can the. Court that is admissible. The final question is Are you attracted to anyone in the room? She said yes, and as determined to be a truth, wow! Wants to fuck. Let's the only one that would have just heard our feelings if it was no, it was a lie. She was bullshitting. You guys I wish we were more questions. I think Lewis just made her uncomfortable now. It's fucking loves it. She loves this attention. She loves the FUCK IN. So Alex didn't lie at all now. She's a truthful woman. It thank, you gave my even though she admitted that she has lied and to Authority figures, where's Becky wasn't? She's supposed to be here. Yeah, I think Becky is like looking at an RV up, becky. His whole life is ally. She didn't WanNa get exposed. BECKY's looking RV. Okay, yeah, Becky and Shannon both couldn't be here and that would. Changed Things Yeah. Hey guys. Let's take a quick second and thank are awesome sponsor for today's show, which is infinite. CBD Corona Virus looks like it's starting to go away. Our favorite sponsor infinite CBD has them specials prepared for getting back to normal life. It's time to restore all of your favorites. 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They've got a special for our fans right now if you use the Promo Code LS twenty, you're going to get twenty percent off your order one more time. That's infinite CBD Dot Com Promo Code LS Twenty for twenty percent off your entire order all right. Let's get back into the show. Do you want to go next? Bobby Now! Bobby. Who wants to go, you say? You'RE GONNA. Go next. Don't ask. Do, you have to. Tie them together. How many questions do we want? I think I think we should stick to the five, because it takes long enough each the five makes sense. By then we only have four often we. Five. Go five for for all of us. Let's do five. All, right? What are you GONNA do? Enjoy Five five Jay now it should be mentioned that J. is a sociopath, so this test probably won't measure his lies and a liar facings. And a liar everyone. You put it on your stomach or your chest. Waste Oh. God it right where you'd carry a gun holster. Right Harrier emotion. This is where the lines right where you carry your life. And so hard to do this. CARBS. Your fucking girlfriend is making eye contact with the window. There's nothing fun forget. It, waste. How's it going? Judges breathing if he's gotTa, be Hoodie on. Maryvale. Bro. Persson. Do! You swear to tell the whole truth. The ultra nothing. Ultra at the whole truth and nothing but yeah. That's what I think it. What is it? You're aware to tell the truth the whole truth. There needs to be another. I thought it was the wholesome twice should really wordsmith. Yeah. wordsmiths met so much of a date. Smith okay so. Let's go Jay's be. He's gotta ask. He's got to ask him. Questions. Also in the chat I am monitoring the chat right now. Anybody wants to include any questions from the chat. We will take those questions live on air, Oh, look not all of them. Obvious Jay's ex wife is in the chat wonderful. She gets five questions. Please remain perfectly still. Detect lies. Yeah. Probably we did this part Aradio the fucking. Read it word for word again you psycho. Yes, talking to the microphone. Still. We'll share on a little bit. Yes. Right one. Busy as everyone everyone watching library down the stream. I mean just really never sorta sweaty faces flush pointing. The you are worried. Worried about. What have I done that? You know that you could ask me. You're my friend. You canceled I. Think you all down. Do People call you. Yes. We that the preloaded question from them. It's just getting. Okay I got it. Thirty seconds checkout on me. We raw chatty with Alex. I'm sorry I forgot we were doing a podcast. Hurt writing. Questions. I was looking for the Youtube for the live thing I've tried to look for it on my phone. Oh, it's on Youtube. It's I'm guessing you don't. We're dot com slash Promo Code L.. Alaska to fourteen day free truck it access to the live chat where you could be involved in the show, let's say. I Bet You did. Yes, and it broke my heart. Sorry. I meant Matt Matt over it. I'll never get over it. Said I was the only one. Hey Hebrew protests. Outside the service is still what's happened, but I've been spending all this time trying to think what question I think, questions questions I haven't come up with one yet. I've just been. I saw women thought. Broken. Yes. That's. J. Admits Statutory Rape Eleven. Share. This is I mean control questions. Over the control questions. Are you. Never proud of. The control. This is what the programs telling me. Your? Being a man with a pancakes. Yes right now. I always repeat everything. Shit. I got a couple of questions from the chat. Hockey here. I'm nervous right now before you. Know what? It's just weird. Okay, what do. I feel like you're going away for a few years. My friend I hope he makes it through this. Okay, and I'm the one who has to interrogate you, then Deontay. Said He. was. GonNa! I was just waiting. I feel like I'm already just trying to get you a reduced sentences obviously going away, but changes. Plead out Jay a rough childhood you question. Analyzing that stuff! Just says get out bobby and out disguise full of Shit one run. Questioned. No have you ever wished? Guy I wish someone dead on gave his every hour. Yeah, regularly. He genuinely mean that degen, yes. Don't figure. I don't know there's like five people right now that if I can slide literally, just click a button number them. Yeah for sure. For sure on my one particularly of course me, no bro, Chemo. It's well his answer. Kim with murder. You wish you wish. Came true magical. Guys to Aleppo Communist. The guy who killed him, which for sure I was like yeah. But you know kind of like. That's a little different. It's like after a trial and all that process. Yeah! Should. Probably consistent. Go ahead asking. All right. We can Lewis you I I got. I got nothing. Nothing I got one from the chat. do you like doing the bonfire more than Legion of skanks? Now. We'll see. SEE WELL SEE! That the fucking solid. That's a good question. Solid question. It's a really good question You my heart beating. Sorry. I'm just GONNA. Ask if you like fettuccine. That's a yes. We all know the. Salty cheese. Completely that's my favorite of course. Yeah. I think of one which your favorite cheese. While we wait. Mine Fed fedor fetters. FETTUCCINE Whatever, anything that ends with a Deli Slice White American all right? This is my question between Leeann Lewis is one of your favorite. Hurts. Jay. Because no one gets you. Don't ask specific person right yes. I know. I'm. Joking No, I'm not. Bobby. You GotTa get this specifically right down. The questions bobby because. When repeat the back! Edible? Jack. Out of me and Dave. In my your favorite? Yes! That's true. It hurts either way, so we're GONNA find out toward dot. Cigarette! Honey semi sweating. Sweating. Oddly oddly cool, Oh my God. Right Jay Have you ever masturbated thinking about other Alex Becky. No I consider when you have sex with your Check and think about another person to be masturbating. God, but does the lie detector. MASTURBATION WITH HELP! Now Watch like porn jerk off. Thoughts of people real people. While anymore fan questions in the chat. See, here's my issue with this is that I think you're supposed to just be sitting with the last answer you had, and that's what it's judging and we're just fucking around throughout the. Now this is one hundred percent accurate Dave. Two teeth accurate I'll. I'll tell you a few minutes. A few minutes. This is accurate or not. I'll know by one of the I won't say which question I'll now I won't say which question but one these questions. One for sure. Know these. Eighty percents success. All right we'll more. Jay. Do you ever have? Gay Thoughts Yes! Saving. Results. In Goodie bag it. It's just to my mind on generalizing does. I would see. She need to say yes to that. It's not. Brilliantly vague questions. So I Actually just. Wanted to be. Hard but gate thoughts could be anything. It'd be thought about how gross gay stuff is right. You're still having Gaitho. It could be like the wizard of Oz. Question before I've thought about it. All right. We're cool. About all the kinds of people in the world and one of them gaze right, yeah. Right We're analyzing the results. Taken off utilizing the results. Okay, this is. More Fun than I thought of the. Do. Not, WANNA do the lie detector dust. WHO'VE! Okay, the first question was. Do you like doing bonfire. Gangs, if j, if you like doing barnes let me just say this right now. He cannot be president of leaves. Jet said. No and the lie detector determined. That was a lie. To determine. Him Get make. Should. President I will make this show as good as bonfire. To I'm your future president of Skanky on you. Use me I think you're forgetting about a third party. WHO's also running for President? Does not enjoy the bonfire. Listened Jay. That just broke my heart a little bit giving on down the results, the next question is do you have a favorite between Lewis and Dave. Jay said yes, and that is the truth. Wow, this is your. Tech test determine you are telling. Shit I'd like to production Alex. thank you very much. Friendships might be ruined his. This is so much better than I thought it could possibly be. A question number three. Is Louis your favorite between Lewis, Dave? Jay said yes, and that is a lot. You are. You. Fight you getting my mascot on? Exist. I. Know My least favorite show. To. I didn't realize that would be. Kind of felt like Louis wasted a question by. The first one was. Lebron if you haven't. Read your hand. You'd save Dave. Nothing a me right up I'm like. You're so dance dude guy out. We both Save Louis. J is not your president everyone. I WANNA point the bad friends. I mean I actually think the bonfire thing heard him, but that favorite thing I think brought him back. Man. To Dave. Two close friends shot closest friends. Question number four has J. Ever masturbated thinking of Alex or Becky Jay said knowing that is the truth. Really the truth is not. What does not like skanks alison tests determine. You are telling the truth. Wow. How expecting another. J has masturbated to everything. Yeah, the fact that he's never gotten around to you too, and I'm really uncomfortable with how. This test is believe ever ever really. Jesus! The final question ever. Have you ever had gay thoughts? Jay said yes. It is determined that that is true. Lie Detector tests the time. I love you question coming right back to you. Breed normal. Never had gay. Conversion therapy yourself right here. Well one so accurate. We put them next the gate. All right. I'll go up the gay thoughts. Thing is just funnier if you say no, and then it determined. Dow Pretty funny with. James, though. It did work pretty well all right I'm. I got two laughs because Jason I've. Got To laugh in his. Left Forget. I'll be honest with you. That's why you're my second favorite AL, fuck. My God dude fuck. This is so funny. What do I do here? Spores under the floor. The bonfires better than skanks. I've never listened. Better pepe pig. You think pepe big is better. There's peg. We need some bill. Smith questions in the chat as well J. When I'm up there. If you WANNA, get the chat for questions. Dave. have very different adjustment sizes on our belts. Jesus Christ. Oh yeah I suppose we'll see. What was the age of the girl that Dave said that buckle? that he wouldn't bang seventeen. No, it wasn't seventeen. It was way older than that. He said below twenty five below twenty five I. Still I. Think should let me just ask eighteen eighteen year old. Is He. Is he grossed out. Or understanding of the concept of someone that was like just like kids. It's gross. Bang anyone except my wife. I know, but there was the moral thing about the age difference. Okay well. Let's say if you were single, okay? All right. That's a great question. I'm asking. Somebody send the present your baby. Question! That is a great question Shit itself fucking funny. Focus on fuck. Let's see. I got one already. Going to be good. GEICO's control questions out of the way I. Well. That's right index finger. Control because it's getting more and more twenty year old inbox May. I talked about it for two episodes of realize podcast. Then you inbox her. Wish, but she inbox me. She's so hot and. She doesn't only fans, and now I'm her only subscriber and I think she literally just plays Dummies and goes. Hey, you're cute, and then we look at profile Lewis every hooters waitress wants to fuck you. I've seen you. You were getting free. Dances stripped loves the girl like I have had sex with both hooters, waitresses and strippers, not for a free the ones who liked you. got. I thought. The stripper likes me, and then she started grinding up on May. Twenty, two hundred know what was going on. People sometimes call you D yes. All right. Got That fucking music. Yes route in the route in the Bush of Africa. Somehow. We found this crazy detector tests left by the round. The giant metal bird brought us. let's see. Let's see in one of the chatter that good yet. Resent your babies. Greatest question is pretty great. Actually might have to be one of the questions they've. Resent you be. Alive yes. ooh, find out a lot about your future presidential candidate Dave. Smith has told lies, but I'm honest about it has told lies is honest in this moment has told Liza. Lies that could've been alive, but could have been. I mean I've told them. It would make it a truth. Quite the quandary. Let's go. This is going to be good. Lewis you're headlining buddy. I'm nervous. Are you nervous? I gotta good one J. Were you really freaking out? For. Did, you feel nervous, do I. Feel put things tight around my finger, so I felt my. Finger right. Out Our the on that right now. Yes, a little weird no! Nothing like that at all. Lied about something serious. Yes! Wow, Dave. Interesting this this effigy on for this country. Let about anything serious. What List. You're going to be asked. That is dumb shit to say. Try to lie to US right now about minor things. I've never eaten a salad. Lewis I'M GONNA. Ask Him that I'm going to ask him about Louis. Convincing himself right now that he can beat the tests. beat the fuck test. You think loses a thumb tack issue. Are we talking. He has the same reaction forever. Yes. Every time you listen to his podcast. Gay. Nowadays we don't have asked that question now we already know. See Sad queer. Queer. So? That's the name of my new. My New said we're. We've. Got So many cover ideas for that. Lynch Lynch Strap on. A corroded pocket. Set Queer. Meiji plus hairs patchy. alopicia this. Said we're. Joey. America's Sad I'm ED resume show. America's sad queerest. Its credit. Your curse it in the house. What would you? Say just say I'm sad, Queer. Forget about tonight show? How do you want to bring up? You're not gonNA want to say. A sad we're. But you just say like that's. The sad queer. Queer! And then when you go to do the old like. This Guy Getting Ready now. The questions, do you have one now God if you? J. J. before. Do you like doing part of the problem? More than you like doing leisure skanks, yes wow. That, was very fast. That answer I'm your president. I want. The. President is not a debate about this. That was literally like you to think about him. I knew what the question was going to be. When he first started, he said I'm asking the same question. told the truth. Well. In the bonfire mortally just gangs Dave. Honest. Who maybe he's lying and fucking even him to himself. He'd be surprised. I'd be shocked. I will distrust this whole process. Question to Jay. Thinking, so! Dave if you were single, would you have sex with an eighteen year? Old Girl? No. That has to be. Enough Sachs. Who Cares do the broader with Ask if he would do her hair. I have a couple. See I have. One or two more. Let's take a look at the chat. Controversial and fun. Causing conflicts with an agreement. Ending show for. This is the last episode of question number three Dave. Do you resent your baby? No I would have said. Look come medical media. Show. As. A little bit. Shit. Shit. I got I got one more going. Jay You've got to think of one. I got one more good one. That's it I got a good one, okay? That good one. Yeah. WanNa. Find those out. I've I've I've always thought this about Dave. Dave Do you believe that white are superior to Latinos? No. That was. Even I won't trust this machine if it doesn't tell you, that was high. I mean superior so van. What are we talking about mathematics? FUCKING Border Hopping, not even close. God favorite Dude Reggie. Lewis more than me. Now. Who? Interesting I forgot about that one. David Ajay. Thank you. Dave Talk. All! Right We're part of the collective days Shit. Dude. We almost forgot about that one. That's a good question. We gotta find. We have to really. Stress friendships tonight. With questions by the way. This. We have answers right. This is this is tent. Jesus Christ. My favorite one is juries. You're being. A great question. Maybe in moments but I don't. Indoor fracking. Dacia for Dave, beaming? Too Bad You're dug as you know. Okay. The results are in. Let's see okay, question number one. Do you like doing part of the problem? More than skanks Dave said yes, and that is determined to be truthful. Gentlemen I am your future president, it's I. At this point, it's the best show you do. We. Should. Question number two. If, you're single. Would you have sex with an eighteen year old girl? You said no, and that is the truth out of. Two old, wow, what's who's were almost forty? Who Cares I'm like you this? We really wanted to talk to him. Moral Davis actual. I literally thought they were. Just saying it of course I. Prefer the problem to this dumb she if you got. Sick and say if you don't have to talk to her. Jewish and I have. Obviously. So, question number three. Do you resent your? Dave said no and the lie detector determined. That was the truth. Children. Marrow, Better question if you had said, have you ever at one time? But just asked me in. All right right? You've learned a lot. Get more specific on last. Everyone got all the bugs out of the way. Specific on you. Should the next question. Do you think White People Are Superior? Officer. About this, this is actually the. Detector tests determined. He was telling the truth. Artist! Bullshit? Detector tests determine. A very low confidence in the. No because again though it's thank question superior. Brown people who are superior to me and then I. Know Louis. and. That is what. Should be your president. Davis fucking crushing right now. Wow, he's a good person so far and the final question. Ask Views gig somebody's answers. He is gay I. Love Your Baby Fucking. Question. Do. You like Louis more than Jay. Dave saying no determined. That is the truth. Doesn't mean he likes J. More than me. Equal you up there, so I told the truth on every. Show I got nothing to hide and that's why I should be your president. No, should he do like? This show is funny again. Make the skates great. As funny as part of the problem is everyone. Well now I mean it's not really the goal part of the promise. Just tell the truth. Down a corrupt system, but we're GONNA. Make skanks funny again by telling the truth. Lewis is going to pound that whiskey. Quick that one of our amazing sponsors here lesion gangs, and that of course is sheath underwear. I Love Sheath. Love it I use it all the time. Do you love She i? Love she agree. Digging that fucking did you hear Horn to the whole? 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Then you on I'm so clumsy. GIGGLING rigged up dude. Still here we go. All Right! Louis J Gomez in the hotseat. Find your third eye center yourself. Wow. That was impressive. I I don't try to pretend to be anything. I'm not, JESSICA Yu as well as I know these two. I. Know Jay now. You know me a little bit bail. I'm impressed. I'm should I'm disappointed in the that you don't think. White people are superior. I'd really like to Redo that one. If I could get a chance to review that specific question on Lewis, he thinks. I mean come on. Let's get real here. Jews, Jessica. Gotten. Me Now Who Superior were chosen Louis. Louis. Superior. Want to waste a question on something we now. Unfortunately, gas. Are you happy. You'd and become a cook took. Sweet Dick. You. Were born to. And somehow just hit the fucking. Grab that a little. Bit You know you know you can. You can have an after. You're done with the lie detector tests. Come here with you and your family were washing laundry and a lake. Service shut up. Perfectly stores stop trying to cheat the system. We'd. Nation look at the chat. People have questions for Lewis Yeah everybody in the show checkup Dave. Everybody in the chat or send your questions for Louis. My Life. They asked that I could ruin your life with the room. Is Life Lewis? You are already lying. You're sweating so much. The machine is going to explode. You are shiniest Shit. Are you male yes? The ultimate male. Stop moving your swim. Much your hair starting to grow, dude the size of your own. Yet. I'm still. Some good ones in here. By the way, it's going so fast, it's already. See that. You can't. Obviously Oh. My God. Do People sometimes call you Louis. They do yes. You Know How many questions I'm not kidding this I know I'm fucking the heartbeat of this show. Don't realize. Truth Right, Bob. Thanks. So. Do Black lives matter? I saw that? AC-. Let's go. I'm I. Don't give a shit and let them to hide except those five things. You guys know about not that as me about. Do you have anything Dave? What are those five things? No I don't have anything I'm thinking though. Ever lied to a person of authority. Yes. Did you really have to just think about that that hard? I'm I'm not being. I think blue lives, matter and I think. Officer I. Don't have any weeds. I I. I was trying to think of what I consider. Authority does what it was. Okay, right 'cause I thought it. That could be so many things to. Ensure teacher. Everyone. dominatrix! Red Bar. Yes for sure. Have, you ever felt angry. Yes. What a question for Lewis! have. You ever felt angry. I'm ready. I got a good one. All right down J. you're five of them. We're just on the controls right now. This thing is. So, funny, it's like. They Love Jessica I know they. Do I know that you why because? I'm the most approachable I. Could the fence literally just a bunch of women going? Have you ever raped May? Someone. Yes? Today. Your wish. Someone dead almost sounds like you actually made them die. We kept you wished them to the point of death. Yeah, I feel like. You who doesn't wish people dead. In moments of anger. My mom does like there are certain people who are just. My can't see my mom ever saying that. People have so many questions right now. I can't even believe I can't read one on those flying. We read them all. I'm ready. Have you ever used illegal drugs? Yes? Yes fucking, yes. Berry ready to. Friendships are tested here. Visuals not like me as much as Dave that as a fact that it wasn't like a J. Two different mark firmed up Dave at the very least likes as equally, but definitely not me more than Jay Wright. Friendships tested big J designed legions as much as bonfire Dave, not likely much as part of the problem leaving gentlemen I mean if never nothing even if you find out that I. am a piece of Shit right now. I'M GONNA. Tell you right now to stay still Lewis the president's getting going you. Some good ones in the United America. Fuck! The joke twice. Analyzing. Thank you, everyone. Laws. How many more? Mayo Jay. Lewis closing this ad, so make them count. You have nothing. No, I'm just saying. Make them count. Yeah and I'm GonNa Make me count I will not. The truth. Will he can you can't. Just got nervous now. What does that count all control questions? They make me nervous now. When I said novel ready for the real question, I got nervous as an adult. Have you ever chatted too long with an underage girl now? That's not cool. Twist, save go! Fuck anybody. Have you chatted too long yet? No, I'm what he considered an adult that. Nobody through long. We're going to tell the truth when I said that that my definition of adult might be different than everyone else's evolution of. Lewis is going in a very primitive bar Mitzvah age. Of Adult! President. Louis. Do you consider me a closer friend Jay. Know! How Did, you ask it like a question back to man who may here's the weird. That's a weird thing like depend what you consider close. Question designed. More, now you've got a kid in your fucking that you apparently is not fucking resentful about and. That much. Lewis fucked up. Put it back on keyboard. Right now put it back on. Yeah Louis Cheating already drinking the whole time. The rest of us were all at my mother single. The rest of us were already poke. Lewis Yeah, are you jealous of the bonfire? No. Such. A machine does determine that ally I. Jealous mean really you know the fuck you know. People were. BALLPARK I. Now. He's wasted none of this counts. I'm barely wasted. You GotTa Stop Moving. Louis the whole point was you have to stay still the whole time you're cheating? I'm not cheating anything. He's a lot of questions I. Think I've been more than everybody else do. Less than everyone else so flaking forty-six everything Dave Lewis Yeah. Do you actually think that you're going to win the contest to see who is president of the United States of America. Yes. Now you're gonNA. Ask me about the fight. Oh well, give you a great idea for question five. That's not a question. You guys catch me Geisha Ucla. Racism Fuck you. Oh, yeah, yeah. Rabi. Superior you know. Have you ever raped a black man? Think they're smarter. Better. Specific Bacon make them score. Luis. Do you think white people are better than Puerto Rican people? Yes. Data! Pick our. Shit up can. Really, make ourselves better, okay. Are you a, Karen. Last question. Didn't stop moving I'm analyzing moving so much. Why so much finger stuff? Whatever Bro? Dude listening with fucking participation. Participation. Participators Shiny Shaven heads. That's not fresh even. Is Operatives. Share the top leave the sides now. Extract Bobby up and ask if he knows the difference between precipitation. You'll get to the bottom of this stages and. You. Know it's. Patient. I know that. fucking. We get Harrison and here and ask him if he hates Lewis. Who are you all right? Sorry You're. You're you're the one is shown? Okay! We, got. Let's see. Question Number One. As an adult. Have you ever chatted too long with an underage woman? Lewis said no and delighted tech determined that that was the truth. Is Determined you are telling. Thank you this thing. Thank you. Half. Came back also. Why would you ask me questions? If I was lying God, forbid it could fucking really be not good for me. You add friend. Yeah, that was. The question chat asked so many questions like that for you guys that I was like you know what I'm GonNa. Be Friend Right now. You asked if I resented my baby. Great question though. The number two. Do you consider Dave closer friends than Jay? Lewis, said no lie detector to determine that that was the truth. Wow, exactly, what can I. Tell You. What happened there? It's a debate because like look I like Dave more than you. But I won't return phone call. Did days become less close, but not less. It's just it's a different close you. You're both equally equally close to both. Won't return phone calls. He calls I'm not that close either. Really No. Interest in talking to you know, it's going to be a whole thing. I know he'll be shadow bones always. Have? The kid we're. Both like look like their relationship you have with. My son is very like that bond is. Stronger. When I saw you. Want to sell your home for the first time. I have a relationship with your son I consider myself a father to him and. Phil Puerto Rican J probably speak more on average. I would say that it's just I take very equally close that that was not. Okay to question number three. Are you jealous of the bonfire? Lewis, said no, and the detector test determine, and that was a lie. That was a lot. I would had heady nuts like the punt for more than just. It. Really got into my record. that. Jay prefers the bonfire skanks and Lewis Kinda gets also. While he's, he's also like yeah. The bonfire is better whereas I. Have Never listened to the. I never well. Tom No idea what that is. That's why I'll be your president. Bobby questioning before. Do you actually think you'll win? The presidency of the United States of allegiance skanks. I better fuck and win at this point. If we figure out the fucking where loyalties lie, it's crazy Lewis said yes, and that is the truth. The confidence you WANNA confident president who want a stupid boy. Who Lives? In me. Constant. Constant state. Hook up, presidential candidates ally detector. They would be awesome. My by the way trump would pass every. No matter what he? believes it like yeah right. I think he would pass it with flying colors. It'd be like. Did you have a bigger crowd big? -solutely Obama had like four people there. fucking kill it. Biden I don't know all right. Sorry, go ahead the final question. Do you think white people better than Puerto Ricans Lewis, said yes, the lie detector tests determined. That was the truth. Jealous Eating Puerto Rican. Okay so fine. Girl. Who else can we fuck it hookup to this bitch? The best get Harrington here's someone says game I ever done something gave. We could ask those guys much more Roddick. Harrington's the guy we're going to get anybody into detectors. The handles Guy Right now. Get Him in to get in here right now. Harry. Ranked Tim Harrington saw some of his weight loss' from AIDS. So Lewis. Only one arrowhead one lie was. On fire. So Lewis. You're really jealous of the bump. Was the machine right on that? You are jealous. The machines right jealous is the wrong word. It's everything is. True I gay? Love Fire. That's quickly forgotten. The JAYS game. Fuck it you. Jay is gay. It's so funny like that's. GonNa ever copyright. That's my platform. That's my. Jay is gay. J.. SMART So weird so. Put your first gay candidate and often. 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You send them to me. Ever bangs. Wasn't a whole state of confusion at one point. We know they didn't bang, but there's questions surrounding that he was questions. Also probably not. Probably Alex off air. That's okay. Hey, ALEX! Is that okay if we add? Photos ready to say I'm gay. I'm sorry, if you. Kicked me out of the closet tonight. Alex I'm sorry if you couldn't hear that question of my gay friends voice, but Is it okay if we have guyq about you guys banging? Yes. Asking questions freely. Alex actually wants it to be known that she never banged Harrington and couldn't four. I'm never going to ask that question. Leave, it ambiguous. Writing cursive! I didn't know it was going to be doing right. That's why I'm asking. Are you feel? I was terrified I. What is nervous soon as they go to? The real questions is the tone that shifts yeah. We're more to not number. Funny. Did you decide your fingertips. To now, but I was like definitely just felt a little bit like so little like heat. It's a weird listen. If anyone ever puts two things on your fingers on the other finger on your chest and starts asking you questions already like anxiety, and you don't know what it's going to be. Like Oh, now that we've all done it, we all have a pocketful of excuses. Every of us and also thinks is plastic and wires. I? Don't have any excuses. I was all all. Ready Dave Smith Twenty twenty ultra amount buddy I got I got five questions already lay them Louis. You know what you can fuck and run the gamut on this you can fall can take the whole thing. Yes. Harrington think is not around. His waist was breathing. He's not staying still things not around him. Tiny! I didn't know how. Terrible yeah. I was looking at the back you he to. Core Mass Pal is going to win the middle. Is going to do one hundred percent, but maybe not. One hundred three. Maybe not six days notice guys. Don't step up like that unless they know something like this like there's no. Paid. To Wear Salmon Short. Contract you got like a six fight like crazy deal. You like Salman. Salman. You! All. These questions. If I've good ones I all you Louis. Are We. Are we doing with controls? But are you gay? That's the control. Your Baby, what? I can't control. I have a baby. Is that it Wednesday? No. Louis. If you like that was I. I don't know what day it is. If we're also equally your mind. Mike just new drink. So Nice, I didn't even ask for A. Dating Hook Them Up. Jessica Collins. Aides say my faggot. I. M allowed to say it because I. I always say that you're not allowed your. Urine I know it's I. would taking a bullet for all of you to the Haro not which I look. The what the Haro t! Music. Please keep it conversational. My Carrington, yes. Have you ever done anything? No. Matter? A lie for sure never done any just up like Tinkerbell pullman. Get hard from that question. He's jerking upset the next one. What are your other seven fingers doing all right? By. The Way Harrington stays, but Karenin friends macready that place very often. Not often a lot you have. Harrington. Touched Curran's dirty underwear now. Your House! Man Oh. He could have touched the clean in the drawer whatever? Hot Right, touching clean underwear, no one else clean underwear Jessica. No, you're not even a lesbian now. What I did you? Would you say that to me? It was a much better question to say underwear the dirty underwear that well he's. Like the reality, but you've laundry probably. You were sort of naughty when he was saying. Laundry. This isn't technically a question right now all right? Hand can if you ever? Hooked up at all with Alex. Now. Who We're going to find out the truth rain. Find? Seem, so innocent? Like a fucking liar. Classic. Here he's going. Trying to control his breath and heartbeat he. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah Yeah. Okay Herrington. Have you ever masturbated aghast digital? Did. You Watch. Air He was not on air sorry question John. Lewis waste in a question might found a loophole loophole timid loopholes. Good maximums pretty good. I'm right if the next one side with an excellent fister painting. Has. So funny, okay last one. Harrington. What have you ever? What have you ever done what anyone would consider stealing? From guests digital now. You're answering so quickly you to win. Suck! Shocked me her. Go, wait. We asked the question time sorry. Right! Yeah because you're wording. It is because you might have taken a pen or something. But. Perpignan right. No, no, but he knows what I meant. You know it's almost like the underage girl thing like once sort of playing over the guy I definitely have but like. Reaction was. Like, no, I definitely have it, but then I started considering what adult means and what like what else get when I was eighteen I definitely talked to an under eighteen, so I started breaking that down for sure. But no, not really like I. Hit you'd be. Nineteen have you talked to a sixteen year old? The question was when you were. Talking to a fifteen year old well, that's like the spirit of the question that got out of my whole. Are White Superior to Puerto Rico? Spirit is. Spirit I was going to be a literal. Yes, they're better. That was great. But also the spirit of whites is better than. Sure episode I was sure mine was gonNA. Come back alive. Actually Puerto Ricans quite spirited. That's the way I would destroy Puerto. Rican people very spirited group okay. Question number, one. Have you ever done anything. Gay Harrington said no detector test determined. That was the truth. Damage? Tests determine you are telling. Fuck you? Fuck you? If, you just blew up with that. Computer. Sizzling. Question number two. Have you ever touched Curran's dirty underwear? Harry said no and the lie detector tests determined. That was the truth. Salmon. Off Their Book Harry back up how he's jerked off occurrence for sure. Lunch. You cannot your off a one bedroom apartment for multiple days. I jerk off I. Mean I, kidding me. Anytime I tickled my fancy. Ivy Jerked off in my house. No. Dave probably must jerked off my house at some point. And I stayed with Oh all house anymore. That's for sure I don't remember how old place was so. That old sexy. Is? Made for love seat. The third question is. Have you ever up at all with Alex the? Harrington said no lie detector tests determined. That was the truth. That's a lie I know you guys have hooked up. You've never up. Really. Get out of town by ever said that to you know. podcast yeah he did. You might drop saying. And we all cringed and we all wanted to go home and think about everything. We've ever done wrong in that. That was when Bobby asked my done anything embarrassing. That's the first thing that came to mind that nightmare, DUDE! Home, my God, that was the most cringe thing we've ever experienced on the show. He was angry. I thought her. Those joke! Bad Joke! We all thought Alex whole time completely. The all time I've been treating Alex differently for. Four years number one shake her hand. I still won't. Just in case, this thing is a flawed system. But have you ever masturbated at gassed network Harrington said yes, and then lie detector determined. That was the true. Of course he's jerked off more talking. Hook them back up. Have you. Tell the truth. He has. IVDR Duffin the bathroom here for sure. You know who I have to. Push. This, day you know what I mean got to knock it loose. Myself Gardner. You. Jerk. Walked down the stairs, right, just start. Out. Not Helping my GEICO's wearing my fucking. Cowboys want to go for a hike. Some are quiet central Pe-. Last question. Have you ever stolen anything from gases network Harrington said no in the lie detector test determined. That was the truth Oh. The Truth Turn? Job. More I! Got A lot, but we are we talking since I'm little or no. Let's do it. Let's talk. I wanted to the news. Yeah, we only have like twenty minutes. Yeah, I'm Ken minutes we can. You guys need to explain. The I mean I know some what's going on, but I don't know what's going on with him now. Let's hook him up to the test. Everyone Seth here. With that be imagine one just south commonly Jewish. All we're asking by the way you person. I've asked him publicly before to like Kinda. So you're kind of aggressive about it. Yeah, no. I wasn't. No, you were though. You really. Come on fuck in it was. You asked in a way that was, too. Confrontational of way. Up In his forum. I just remember seeing the tweet when you ask them on and I thought it was a little bit like I understood why that wasn't gonNA work. It was funny that the other person's mark random. Suck asking them for this the biggest. Have this debate, Obama a dumb debate. Now that's the that's the debate versus the. Simon's. is the debate random as biting him, he should debate someone who's actually like on Mark randoms level. Like a hierarchy of success level I mean yes, yes, he should fucking go for. No I. Just thought you were a little like. I don't. Best friend all of a sudden. Nothing No, I'm not your best friend or Louis. It might be it might be. That was never determined the lie detector test. Just for any girlfriend that I have the. Bishops. Yeah. That's pretty accurate. God. It's pretty I do believe that all the results were one hundred percents. Proceedings or she wants to fuck any my friends. And it'll be alive because she wants to me. there you go right. Joking trying to get a hand in the lab. He's probably Estero. What you're saying I didn't even know who the top would be Jesus. Christ things are getting so confused and Boso aggressive, so ask. You guys got sixty nine, but laying on your side. One's top the most inviting poses. Now it's awkward because you both have to keep one leg hiked up in the air and hold it. You're man. Wearing, masks so just to be safe, so what happened with Seth? Sign I saw the original thing, he was accused of being a sex pest survey. Okay, so all right if you don't have that, Simon's is that Simon's was the guy who wrote the article that got Shane. Gillis fired from SNL. Now whether or not somebody else would have written that article who? I don't think so. He's the fucking reason. No I'm just saying I. Don't we all became? I mean like. Can you imagine from everything? We've all said and done. Piece I'm assuming that's what I'm saying. I mean just from today's pod. Down we could all be cancelled easily and gay. None of us are friends and it's. A. Jealous. Jealous. Nobody wants. Certainly. Be. The biggest air so is a fantastic. Turns out completely honest guy and I I apologize. For All the things I've said out loud. The thoughts I've had in my head that both of them and I apologize to Alex as well because I've been operating under the assumption that she was Harrington's lover. I some toss around pig in this office and it turns out your person. Feelings tons that you're a a sweet girl for some reason likes to hula-hoop. But that being said that they've created a standard that. Literally. George Carlin Richard Pryor. Pass. Laughing fact that we found. White people. That's awesome. We always knew. Always! More racist against yourself than David. You walk into stores and go ahead. You want me out of here. I'M GONNA run around the house. If you want to check, it doesn't matter. Louis walks into a store and goes. Hey, listen dogging! I'm going to steal from. So. You want to get on top of this shit now it's. Still, it's in me, talk. You might as well send security guard to fall me up and down these aisles I can't fuck handle. How funny is! It is pretty great. I tell you I told every my my results were accurate. Your results accurate. Accurate. Why was the I mean? Now. J. Hit a bad friend one of those. Roll accurate now. A? Accurate. I hate you guys. I've never had any gay thoughts. I'm not. I'm not very fond of you, too, but I've never had a gay phone. Flood episodes. Think fond. You to. The game. Very fond of you, too I'm not very fond of your to. This is why I take my talents to the bonfire. But is you prefer the bonfire though? Nats fake. Traffic? You've over after that that's crazy. It's fine. That's crazy. At least I admitted it. Year. Jay's a little bit better. Days a little bit better because you know which one of us which I don't care anymore. I don't like either of you. Lewis the way you look up to me. How can I work? Sounds looking up to you. You know you have that poster me. You have dark holes. Guess Mouth. Don't feel. So good but. Shit. Real, quick is. We gotTA thank Yo. Creative I love your credit marquee sponsor for scanning fest. Obviously, we had a move scanning festival once again to we had a postpone. Believe me we don't want to do that, but we want to give you guys the absolute best I hearing of this. 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We help you in your daily life. Ukraine Dot Com all right? We're we're we. Is there anyone else. I don't. I don't know the success so all right? It's south as the guy who got Shane canceled and Shane Gillis. It's just he's a good dude. There's just no debate about. James is literally a sweetheart of a guy and. You know he make silly jokes. And for the same reason he got hired for an Al. he got fucking fire for us and I'll right lately like the fact that was doing edgy shit. They looked. They looked at his shit and they hired him for that reason because he had a certain unique sense i. Also look he's hilarious and a very very talented comedian, and I also do think that there was something about snl hiring that was like. Hey, let's have someone who can also kind of appeal to you know shithead white country you know like and Shane is very like. If you listen to stand up, he's very open about like. That's kind of like. He has a great bit about how he should be a trump supporter because he's like this fat, Dumb White Guy, and he's as really funny and I. Think they like that like. Let's have someone who kind of represents that you know. It was like sixty three million people did vote for Donald Trump and maybe one guy should represent that sector and. It was just really fucked up the way he got painted as this racist guy, and I mean the thing. When they wrote the article where they were like, he said at one point that one actor was quote Gayer than. And you're like I. Mean first off. That's hilarious. So someone's Gayer than I don't care what angry blog you write that down. That's a hilarious description of someone gayer than Isis. And anyway he got sandbagged and this guy was. That's how this guy. At least that's how I found out who? was and he was writing chip before that, but also he gloated, and he made it a point to be like. Yeah, I fucking did this and then you're. Glowing I think he like he didn't interview with you or something years, but I don't remember it at all, but. He was very positive about me to write an article years later because he's a fucking pussy here. That has no actual opinion or anything. So in the moment he was a big jason known comedian. Let me interview 'em and pin them in a positive light, but either way this guy. He canceled Shane. He started going after Everybody Legion of skaggs is. They're going after Tim. Dillon all of the. Went after meal lot. Yes, he would never tag me and. I would always get like. My people would like fucking tag me in his post where he was tagging something I, said or some tweet or something like that and so I. I mean I don't know the guy I've never met him, but he he would tweet I've seen. So there's been a lot of those things so What happened was a few days ago in the legion, saying Sabra it. Somebody posted. This chicks I guess tweet that was about him. Pope tweet if he can cause I. Actually quote it. I'm drunk to change thing when he was like a Lincoln use less words Gettysburg. you. Go ahead. What is Lots of comedy creeps out there, but don't forget that a very whoa comedy blogger was a full on sex pest to my friend and others who corroborated stories in my DM's over the years, but as aw, but always doing the most to seem like a feminist remarkable cognitive dissonance, men are magic. And then she writes. Yes, it Seth Simon's I've tweeted this several times before and hiding names for losers. WHO WANNA protect bad men happy. Yeah. I saw that that's the thing I did see early and then I saw his response. Yeah, well. She tweeted this. Always this response and A second one. But. Here's the thing this girl accuses him and apparently for a couple of years he's been accused of being creepy and being quote unquote. A sex pests with women I don't know to experts means. Yeah, we're all policy. By, whatever standard that it's a pretty lame even accusation, but it's just fun to watch him. Have something with well by his standard. If we were going by the world that they live in the rules that he sets on everybody else sex, the person who sexually harasses assaults another person that's actually harsher than I thought yeah I thought it was just somebody being like hey. Come on. Harassing kind of the road. Test seems more touching. You touching you such. Touching you touching I'm not in there yet I'm attaching et. Blooming under Clinton. which I tend to me. I thought it was like you you. Go over to your friend's house, and like you see their mattresses stood up against the wall and they're like we have sex pests. Waiting, it's What you do, you can't get rid of sex paths higher Roscoe the dog to come in, but defected. It was harassment and Shit. Like that surprised me. I thought I was going to be much more like someone are not necessarily threatened by, but just annoyingly. Every time you talk to make coming. We Really Hook Up. We should you know? Knowing I didn't realize it was saying harassing and stuff like that so so he gets his accusation and by this standard. Well yet, there's a fucking chick accusing you of some shit. And if this was a comic, that was accused of that he would, if that was me or big, jay or Dave, or and he would jump on that narrative, and he would try to destroy that person right so the. This guy who makes career or tries to make a career hurting bringing people down. WHO's actively trying? He's writing articles regularly about me Dave Tim Dillon Allegiance Games to the entire world that we live in. Tastes of his own medicine. I don't even care if it's not real I. don't even give a fuck of Assam. Fun To watch him go through a thin, and he's fabricated. A lot of Shit liked and stretched bent the truth on so many stuff that it's like well. He's acting like lear abusers because we've had differing opinions on things like should Louis. CK COME BACK TO COMEDY? That's what we're talking about what he's saying. We're defending abusers. It's like no I'm up being accused of fucking attacking women, you know I've not had inappropriate conversations. The underage girls can as we've proven on today. We have proven here. We actually make that a clip on today show. Getting. Through my fucking Olympic. Ask the chick. I. Absolutely are. But you know this fucking guy he. He gets on medicine and. You Know He. The heart on the has for cancelling people and that being his thing. I don't like I would be ashamed if that was my thing I. be truly ashamed. Yeah, I I, it's very weird. Feeling when you believe that people shouldn't be counseled over one thing they've said or one thing they've done then one of the people who's pushing that the hardest get something said about them it's. kind of like well. Look on one hand I. Don't want to become what I hate. I don't WanNa I. Don't WanNa be the person who's trying to cancel someone else, but on the other hand. You're like if you WANNA play by these rules at. Shouldn't you have to live by? These rules are and the other thing is also that he's like he's defending himself the exact same way someone. He's throwing shit about defend you know what I mean it's. It's crazy. We'll. Do Paul. Closer alliance girls crazy. Basically I don't even know her all this. Yes, he calls her a liar, which is pretty crazy here, jd! You're the oppression king here. All that practice in the bonfire with Dan. Practice with all your Gaitho. Just sit with gay thoughts learning from the master. Voice It's really. Nice Paris, and all this website who periodically accuses me of unspecified misconduct towards other people? This can be happening without the bomb. I would've had the confidence five years. If you listen back to the archives, guess you'll never time. He's that Promo Code L.. Alaska the entire on demand library. Evolution voice were listening to it. He never did voices. He wasn't even until episode twenty until he sort of doing the Lewis Voice on the show when he did the poem in my voice that sort of the birth of the Louis. Voice on the show listen and the and the bonfire and I believe Jessica. Can back this up to a clinic in broadcasting so? To Be Jealous, we were. Question is why did you lie? When you knew you prefer. Would you tell us now? Was So in my heart. I thought my love. My Baby's equally. Van At the same time we did. With you, guys did I've accepted? He didn't know he was. A. Partial to bonfire, I, Did you know that I was better friend than Lewis's? Do? I just wanted to see if this thing would catch a live. All going to say. Alex! decided. This show. How does anybody hate this show? Our show. How is Alex the only one who got an undecided? Shirt. Pedophile! Undecided on the answer, though like what was the answer guy? It was whether or not I'm scared of you. That's true. You are undecided. So so Alex is. Accurate that even fucking. I don't understand means. She herself didn't understand the question. I wish I would have been wishy washy on all my. I don't understand. This thing backup Seth Simon saying. The new news. starting December two thousand eighteen, when she tweeted that I had been a weird quote. Unquote weird creepy loser meetings. She refused to give any detail when press saying she wants to protect her friends. Since then she is repeated our, she pressed. That exactly yeah, repeated versions of this allegation every now and then adding new abuses that she goes on on Tuesday she said I've been a sex passed. To her friend and others who confided in her over the years, none of this is true. In Two thousand sixteen I did go on a single date with someone who used to be this person's roommate. We a nice time and remain on good terms. They are no longer roommates north friends. So here couplings you want to say now. If I was on their side quote, unquote, they would go hold on south. Stop and listen stop right now and instead of talking. You need to listen because you heard a woman and you need to understand how that how these women are seeing this and why they're thinking about you. This is not about your perspective. What you didn't do is about what you did do. Get. DID YOU BE A S J W? I would love it. You should get blah. Try it out just for a week Louche. Such a Karen Sort Jewish woman. Lose, your such Karen, The thing up. where we are. They're no longer roommate's friends. I've never met this person. I do not know why she's tweeting these things about me. If she ever makes specific allegations, I will respond. They're on good terms. Where is this girl? Why she coming to your defense here? Really this has been going on for the better part of two years addressing it now, because some comedians I regularly criticise found and seized on this person sweeps. Yeah, Whoa. They've made up their minds about me long ago. who were? And I've no interest in trying to. He made up his mind about uh long ago. Let's pretend the we don't a fuck. Fuck you. Cares. Nobody cares this guy, is we? Think about you. Know the real power here I this Puerto Rican. White supremacy I was GONNA say real bummer is using, says arm into severe you simply for his beautiful white skin. Listening love is porcelain. You're better than me. act like it. Should. They need too much. Let me long ago trying to convince them otherwise, but I want to be very clear to the followers, readers and sources who put their trust in me sorcerer's. I don't do this work for attention on cloud because I'm a bitter comedy. I do it because I believe in the sense that it was the most annoying I. don't write about abusers and comedy to paper over my own failings, I write about abuses county, because they're a huge problem, and unlike the cancel culture detractors gleefully celebrating the prospect that I hurt people I live my public politics in my private life. No, it's all so here. My DM's are open if anyone wants to talk about. Times the one. Celebrating the prospects that seth actually hurt someone. No, no one wants that to be the case and all of us detractors are not saying. We hope you hurt someone. Obviously, we hope no one was hurt the thing that gets people. Like us to go like. Fuck you is that it's quite possible you didn't hurt anyone, but this accusation will still tar you, and that's exactly your mentality of game toward other people just so for game is. Let's Leno evidence necessary. That's exactly let's not pretend that anyone. No one's ever hoping that someone was hurt in any way or abused the point. Is that you? HOOK THEM UP But the point is that you would even if no one was hurt or abused, all condemn them, and now you get to play this game I. Think this thing so like. A Sarah Silverman tweeted out recently I. Forget what when Jimmy Kimmel got you know the black face thing came up and she goes. You know trump supporters are weaponising. Cancel culture to come after good people and you're like okay fine. That's true Jimmy. Kimmel should get fucking canceled over that WHO cares was dumb. Carl Malone skit on the man show. Don't act like this is the first time it's been weapon I like. Your whole game is weaponising this against others even. At this point, that's why. Trump people have figured out that you. So simple. You can get the left to turn on themselves. You're their heroes. Their heroes, if you just go as Elissa Milano just had some fucking thing, come up with her. She's like using blackface i. think she she goes. She was doing it and she was doing that. But then there's not even black takes. But then they go, and then they go, she was she was pretending to be snuck into thing, and they go what she's actually part a Cuban or something like that Chilean. Your appropriating Hispanic coat is just so Steinau it's really she is the most bleeding-heart fucking. Lead the march on all kinds of. But she's guilty of being funny comic for a long time, and so they'll always be something she. Oh. Sorry, you're telling Sarah Silverman. Sarasota Minoza. Sarah Silverman analysts on my. Phase, Islam like face. Allegations claimed she was hitting snooky. It's stupid. Is All fucking retarded who cares? You. Somebody, putting black pain in their face. You've had extremely privileged life. I'm sorry I can't give a fuck about that. Anybody who has real problems that is so far down on their list of priorities carrying celebrity having black face on fifteen years ago. WHO gives a fuck? You're a fucking loser. If you care about that, also why do we have to pretend that these people? Here's the problem. Because once you get called a racist and comedy or in. In the public eye and you get that scarlet letter, you know it's. It's a weird scary thing that people have now and they they use it. They weaponized that thing where they go. WHOA, we're going to call you racist and don't want to be racist. The people won't even associate with the Legion of skanks, because we are perceived as racist sexist, whatever it is and people that are friends of ours and people like Jessica will still ruin her career. Hat. We're a bunch of fucking wheel enga- thinker day gift. self-hating, Puerto Rico Jealous some an honest Jew. Who Resents? JUS! I love how the our stories just that. Davis is baby. Duty hates that kid. Baby Baby. Kids socks. If I didn't associate with every single comic that. Has had stuff or done stuff for made like I. You. Fuck would I do. Yeah, there would be no lineup on a show. People have made mistakes in their life bananas. That's crazy, but even when it's not mistakes, they'll go after people when it's like something they fucking. I just got the covert. Forget it out. It was a matter of. So that was that then all right, so we are, we should because we wrap soon, but the news the news. What's the News News News? What's the news? You know guys I'm drunk now. Sick. On. Profile here we go. tweeted this out Oliver tweets because I don't follow this chick. But the check who originally tweeted the thing about south that we read before she's back. She's deleted her account that she came back and recreated or account. Because, she wants you to leader account. She was threatened by south. Making up store, said No. No, no seth render. That happened. Yeah, we're saying it. Did. He came out. We'll probably. Why would you delete her account? Mice option is. To tour and said hey bitch, leaky, fucking accountable. What did she say so she's. Chef maybe they. GotTa go. We have now. I I'm interested in this it's so she goes in regards to seth same I'm unaware of any date involving a roommate of mine. That is not the woman I'm referring to when I have previously tweeted about his conduct with a friend of mine, nor is any. Nor it. Any of the women who have DM me about their separate experiences, considering I use asterisks in his name, then I tweeted and that my account has been made private for nearly this entire past year I obviously did not plan or anticipate this to become a whole thing, but my, but now it is and I have to own that I have to send Bhai everything, and then she goes on. I didn't tweet the rest of it, but she goes on to essentially say like. A lot of people have jumped onto this that don't have the right intentions which. Is Fine Okay. That is definitely true, yeah? Diverg, if if somebody WHO's saying big J was sex pass. Shut up. You dumb, idiot, okay. Not. Game. Maybe the. Favorite shows. Stupid. Of skanks! Shit is funny though he already had in his head and started like he started like defending, not the right situation, she saying basically yeah, it was a roumain I it was awesome. We totally totally dunked. He said I never had a roommate that I mean. That's not who I'm talking about right those great, so he already harassed her roommate. Now. We're talking about when I fuck, your roommate is. Outed himself for different thing. That girl totally one of Suck Dick in that car. This is about somebody sucking your car, O! Probably won't do whatever she didn't me, too. But. Here's the thing like nobody's accusing us of sexual misconduct. Notice accusing us of being sex wrap US up. All right now, but I'm just saying look like so you're fucking worse than by your own definition of like. What like? He's substantially worse if he would break breakdown what it is, he's been accused by multiple women being fucking creep by the way I'm. I don't know why these women are accusing me. They're dead. I'll tell you. Right. On the nose. Can't get cancelled if you embrace it and say. That, that's how I. Have, done you're! You're asking for it. I'M GONNA say. Is A key. It's so true you can't. You can't say I'm sorry. I didn't do I. Mean It's we've all done shit now. Of course, there are certain things that are not okay of course. Talking Our Last week, and I was saying it really is like except for this fucking Dildo. Really they don't. They don't fuck and come down hard on us and he goes. Quickly usually own it like you guys say it's like you deal if you ought goes away. Comedy. Did you listen to me if you're a rapist? Drunk. APIS. Rapists out there. In the world on my DM's. Just if you're Hispanic. You're don't call me if you'RE A. Piece of trash I'm only taking white. DM's now he's. DM's are open. People should be deeming him and asking him why the girl that he's friendly with is not coming to his defense. Also Y. This girl is not saying it's the same check. His are open everyone. Should be open his really they are open. They said they're open. And he said it doesn't mean anything. For ten years. Told member. You didn't prefer the bonfire show I told you. Tonight into pervert and they told me I was lying. You never admitted you hated. Machine over your boy. But we all hate days, baby, that's one thing. You. Over the fuck out of this baby all separately. Puerto Ricans. Racist! Give my baby a chance to win you back? One more hang here, fucking. She's at. God I don't resent her at all. In the lie detector and back it does prove. Detector was so accurate. Tell that. Alex was not sure. That's the most. Address. No, that's exactly how I feel I was conflicted. I would describe it is undecided. The only thing and I do think the lie. Detector test was perfect tonight with one exception. I still think my Carrington fucked Alex. Bill. That! I It's been a fantastic show Jessica. Thank you so much for hanging out with. Love you guys. We love you too, and we will catch you guys next week on Legion skanks piece. You been listening to the Legion Post Game podcast with J. O. Kherson or lazy I up on. Of A shepherd if shit hits. Gomez! Louis J Gomez. Your jaw I want to punch you in your fucking nose male puzzled magic in his fucking head and comedian Dane. Smith Fuck you got folks I feel like. If I wanted to be gay fucking, stick your of your ass blew the Legion of skanks podcast. Yoed Ding-dong we're done here time to go.

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Episode 477 - Slave Trader Joe's - Dan Soder & Ari Shaffir

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2:06:30 hr | 4 months ago

Episode 477 - Slave Trader Joe's - Dan Soder & Ari Shaffir

"Did you. Arc. Take. The pill. Policy. Everybody. We are once again. Live from the stand comedy club in Union Square New York Yeah. They're gonNA cheer for the resources. The second time the first time. No everyone was excited. They are. They were amt unfairness fairness. Bobby was playing fuck in hair metal ballots before Lewis got here, which was odd choice. Big Yogurt in this gangster all here. Of course, we have David Smith. Your future president. Up Front runner Dave Smith everybody. Of course, the LS Mania Champ to Puerto Rican rattlesnake Louis J Gomez. Thank you thank you. Your future president is here. Because it's one of us. Our guest today, of course, not no, you don't from a the hit TV show on showtime billions, but he's one half of the radio power that. Bonfire everybody Larry Dan soder relied. LIE-DETECTOR PROVEN Favorite thing ever well not. That's not true today. I'll just better than this I was told second hand. There was something else. I can't quit. You Dude, thanks. He told you it was his favorite thing. That was a lie detector. Thing we figured out was men's assholes. Ones? We didn't find those my favorite thing. We just found out that he likes both of those things better than this. You just sometimes I think about men's souls. This is what happens when you do it. All outside and his Mogi swamp again. The truth serum hundred degrees outside today. We're here outside. The problem is when you do the most racist podcast on earth. It is strange to do it into the streets of Union Square now. You're really taking your message to the streets. There's a couple of heroin addicts in Union Square. That are fucking getting on board. We were the most offensive pockets just most racist line on fuck. It was so many monikers dude. We're like Apollo creed. But they're all just about as being fucked up. Loose ones it was racist. At least trustworthy. You want to promote something out of the gate, so make sure WanNa get track Oh. That's what you guys. We only have tagging. When this comes out on I, tunes there will be one day left for the Legion of skanks. Campaign, t shirts, guys pockets merch. Dot Com right now. Grab your campaign t shirts. They're selling like hotcakes. Look Gomez Twenty twenty. We got ogres and Gomez. Why do you guys do? Not Approve my name to be on Jay's T shirt. I wanted Oh g twenty twenty theraworkx Dave. That's a blunder that you can capitalize on. No. It's not a blunder at all. Because the same ticket, Lewis is going to be my vice president. Now I'm not I'm not going to be. He's just need news. Genius Move Jay picked Lewis as vice president without Lewis's concerns. Ross Perot. The Louis. Now? Who knows how much I enjoy not consent yeah. Raped you into a vice president. Can't even get mad. He loves the move, but he he respects it, but he is not happy about now, I. Fear the fear shirts. There's guys, but you have one day left when this comes out Friday. What does that the twenty four th? The the limited edition, present ends on the twenty four th. You could only get one more day, so grab it now. If you guys are listening on guests digital and all that stuff. Every time you hear sirens, you should plug the shirts. It's a kiss at a wedding. Glasses! Sirens guys get your tanks President Shirt Gomez didn't approve. You. Put that up there. Who's who had to pay the price for putting? It goes on the same bill. Someone, did it yes, bobby hunch. I don't know how. You and your Samurai. Was that There's nothing control trouble for that is the ticket Oh Kherson Gomez Twenty twenty. You think I would become president and not having my good friend. Lucia Gomez vice president sounds a little pandering to me. Yes, no, I! Agree it's I'm the only honest, non homosexual person running for pres-. Oh fucking what? Gay Pick. Pick Theo Davis eight your whole thing it's it's the centerpiece of my campaign. which is really make skanks funny again when I would tell you after the last debate I've been overwhelmed by the support of the skanks, I've gotten a lot of phone calls and messages a lot from the gay community wall of a gay people who listen to the show who are like. Hey, listen I'm a gay man, but I get where you're coming from. They also don't. For a gay president, let alone closeted. Not Queen exactly that's exactly the message retired. You've got unions on your side to Camp David. On the back says you need a king, not a queen. You are missing out Buddy Hobby get on it. all I know. Is that fucking Dave doesn't care about the show. Jay doesn't care about the show. Just listened to. A lot like a hillary. Lewis's is is telling you that I. don't care about the show, but think about that right? I'm doing this for the. For the people I don't even want this job. Let alone I don't WanNa be here at all. Okay, I'm doing this because the moment cold for my leadership, and so I stepped up outsider outside of looking at it. I would say. Lewis's intentions are mass suicide or excuse me. Let me enjoy my delayed clamp those. Are All your supporters. Jesus good, he's. GonNa this. We realize how good he wasn't this he's he's been waiting. He's been training for thirty seven years for this day. Goes eats them. Start debating US and destroying us. It's the wrong format should have guns competitions. You won't even be on board with IT HEALS Show out now that's almost sexual stuff and I don't approve by the way someone that was there during the likability Olympics when they took the shot of them kissing that you were adamantly against Oh. Yeah, OH, no! From the beginning, was it. Loose nail that you guys were not prepared. My calling in life is a fake presidential. And, now it's finally come straight sets out great Dave was. Interject. Sorry because go back to Dan J. I look how and delightful and grainy and beautiful. Whatever that is that like sexy? That's bonfire camera. Go back to the Shit skank camera this muddy underwater. What are you guys coming? com swimming come. Yet looks like security footage at a liquor store. You guys get. It looks like a fucking movie. It looks like. There will be blood. Hi I'm Dan. If you want to pay for your show. Bonfire. Directed by Scorsese. Why did they look so good, I actually I came in early and use the camera. Going on. Why is there camera look delightful change? We change the exposure. We changed expose hot girl on instagram filter on yours. I'm you? Louis. Put another twenty pounds on Lewis by the filters. Lewis really have tiny butterfly tattoos on his cheeks, or is that no, that's a filter I, think the cameras just responding to Jay being happy to. Oregon dos can be such an easy show with Dan here. Thanks. Did I know it's always going to be fun day when you're here out, but Dave was brilliant, also because he knew he was going to be good at this, and we brought the idea like ought to be fun with Dick a Presidential Campaign for leisure skanks. They was like. Yeah, whatever you WANNA do. And we we're GONNA. We're GONNA do this, so we're GonNa do that and like I mean if it's if you want us to do it, I'll play along. And then he came in fucking prepare last night. He walked. You guys to slaughter. You're like a gospel singer that went out for Karaoke and go out I'll probably do like some. Of the. Whatever I don't care. Last week's debates, which only through his head in there as you pull up Ari Shapiro guys. Around for you fear. That good. Strong personal. Ju. Sure Oh, I always got to give a nod to t shirt game to somebody's wondering Al Bundy Jersey in the crowd. That's active. One game. Also shout out Satan. Oh He's hating. I. I wasn't thrilled about Ari coming in splitting outside. Vote but I still feel like my campaign. Is this look at this right now? We're pulling up Dave Smith just fucking working you guys. All reason is in second place Dave Smith thirty percent of the vote. We can't see the rest of it. Be there we go. Or if you're twenty five percent, and then the big J eighteen me dead last, the only one who cares who came up with the whole fucking concept, the only person should a president of the show was dead last seizure. The you decide you came up with the concept. Boy. Is the only person who took credit for coming up with the concept because Dan said at one time on a show whatever who cares. I e. Dan I WANNA. Give you all the credit in the world. I just want everyone to just notice how hard you were laughing at my funny friend Louis here for being furious for not winning this competition and think to yourself how funny it is. That Lewis is not going to be president of the United. Somebody will be able to. Somebody will be able to turn off Lewis's Mike for a minute. A show that executive call will be powerful. By the camera, please guys don't guys wanted to divert your attention for a moment Christine sorta wearing A. I told her to start dressing more like she's ready to be a presidential wife. And now she's wearing dresses and make up again. Everybody, the sweatpants season is over. Wow. Feels like you could have just asked to do that years ago. I'll tell you if you lose I hope. She goes right to diapers shift. She's like I. Don't even Care Shit where I walk. US A fake presidential election shape. Fraser Watch press outside. This is bobby come out with a camera with flash. No Babe! I liked the way you look at Apple Inc the world's GONNA. Give a shit. I know you do give a shit. Normally. Stop shutting down. My dreams just put power sue. Christine so wearing shoulder pads. Shit. Lewis, will you accept if you don't lose one? Except, there's no choice what's IT GONNA do new presence in control the military. Good! If anyone could pull off a coup, a military coup, it's Louis Jake on that is true. We'll be on guard. Did you not enjoy the idea that? He said it was his idea? To start the second that upset me. I make sure I don't think I asked the question of who would be the president of skanks on an episode of skanks. Is that how this started? It is state. Sorry, it's all right now. I remember what I've learned through this entire process. Dave is that real power lives in the shadows. Three! been squawking on your podcast every week. been making moves Dave. Reveal the moves. I've made later in the episode Oh. ooh, oh now. Going to be the president knew only a feel that would be a candidate, and the real power is controlling the candidates. Oh, shoot! We've just gotten to a point now. Where we're like you're going to go your hat in the ring on your. Ask us a bunch of time. We don't have enough time to get your t shirt when the website. Hold you go to pro wrestling tease dot com. Body suit of dance odor. Prime Minister. It's a work around. Dip Shits. I don't like that. Is it me. Are you going to fund me? We'll see. Keep an open, mind them. You know what ever candidate and. You are impressive candidate. What is going on right now? Just Noah Santana together. We're a broadcasting powerhouse. That you should, then I know things about you personally. Lewis. Back thing to say? I can fucking. Things that I know thinking about the things that I know I. Follow James Is Private Instrument. I also have access to one. James Hungry Shame. I feel the child to the simple man Pennsylvania. This all changes. You want your nights ago. As the saying goes, you're playing checkers I'm. Dan His long held firm that he has he was in fact person idea. Denver inspired the idea and then I recognize that and I it's like you know what I would I would. I would think a fucking horror in the street, you say. I think this analogy we're. You're the street that I thought it was like all right cool well now to go talk to hear that. You hear that working girls. That's Louis J. Gomez thinks about you putting your tender peaches out on the street. Georgia. O'Keefe's out there getting picked. Sure Chris Rock did the whole. people brag about what they're supposed? Stupid. I mastered the bit really if you think about that way. Aren't look. There's some things to talk about today. Show okay, first of all. If you guys want to vote for the presidency of the United States of America Legitimate August, twenty four, th is the election day. Okay? You have to email skinc vote gmail.com. That's how you registered to email them. You're going to do is once you do that. They're going to email you. A link can only work one times. You can only one the only way you can vote is if you register and that's where honestly the go mites are to really fucking shine that show him. They show up on election day. Okay they. Are All fused to a couch in their fat mom's basement while they're playing fucking online gaming with you all day. That's right here the way Jay thanks people I. Think you guys are equals we. Think of people who just like Louis. Okay. Cool I figure that me and Dave somehow domesticated some of you to be a normal, but. A strictly Lewis doesn't like US fan. They don't that they don't like you Jay. They like. And after time after time, here's Jay. Here's here's the way it works. You see you watch the show one time you're like okay. Jay is clearly the funniest, the most likeable without it that unquestionable easy peasy right and there's my campaign fucking clip. Can we have? Your better cut that up. Whoever's? Manager JC choice. You better play that Lou, and then they aren't Lewis, sucks. We hate him I want that Puerto Rican guy to die. Wise even fucking. Didn't even know there was another guy there. I thought it was just a likable guy in the. Worth. It was just a Louis and That's what I thought eye-popping every now and then with. You guys. That's spirit. That's always. Thought he was a sound guy who got off. But then by the time episode five six seven comes around. Then you see the how great I am home. The heartbeat sold. Like, you know you don't like. at that point. Here. Here's from liking. The, progression stuck couple hundred shows. You'd need a couple hundred shows. Did you really are like when babies taste lemons? Like you're learning to like a lemon when we bought the first time. By the other second on London, but anybody who's been here for a long time. Thank you the baby like no lemon. Lemon baby all? Oh, it's literally shitty parents, this is. Terrible this everyone listening to schedule the first time. He poop. Shit Idiot Yo you anything I. Put in your stupid face. Dumb Baby, terrible mother! Yeah, I don't know it's gotTA flooding. I kids weird, look see. Why is he have mackin me? Why are is is flush with his head to that. Was that a four step kid I'm smashing into his face. Yeah, she's a bitch like it. I, don't like you. Oh. That's good lemon. Balu issue. Do you wear people down over time? You're very powerful. Guys are. At that point they love me and the people who fucking love me. We'll go to war, but they don't want you to lead them. They want me to lead them. Not what you'd leave the. Full of all the great ideas all the great ideas and the show of come from me. That's something a cult leader says yeah. Yeah, that's crazy now. Everyone's drink the cup that put on your. House, unlike Jay who has a cast aside the go might vote. I'm going to be going after the goal might oh. I'm GonNa make a pitch to the goal nights. That I am their leader. Now go mites above all else. I've spent some time with them. dumpsters. They are good people, and they want the skanks to be funny again, and even they know me. Silencing Lewis is the funniest option on the table, and that's why I'm GonNa win. The goal might vote the. Vote for Lewis because they're gonNA. Know if he has to have presidential duties. There's ways going to be online. The play fucking Fort with these people including I'll play while I'm taking a duty. Call a presidential duties. Essential. Glasses what up on my lessons? Why are they different? You know what happened my glasses Dan. Shut the fuck up. I dropped my glasses into campfire dude. Soul scream. It was subsidized. You're wearing your fashionably non prescription glasses. They're actually UB Protective Blazers, the blue blockers. Lewis he's. Someone, that went to the mile high flea market every weekend of my eighth and ninth year on this planet. Those aren't blue I'll bet you a thousand dollars. Those are hot chick glasses. Thousand dollars a blue blockers now. Are you wearing reading glasses on the PODCASTS leaders. There's no blue. You have to block right now. Buddy, it's night. Dan Or Bobby evil is the first video with the fire. It was so depressing. The Bob Throw them in. There I'll look at them. Go Really Sucked Sarah Telemacho the comet. She wrote it's over. Viking funeral for. I've never fire on. Ero. Owned a two hundred dollar accessory piece of clothing or anything how? Those were two hundred dollars. Range glasses none of those are Arabians. How did? They fell off my face into the fire. Just doing your face over. Were you yelling at the fire I was. Shut off learns. Dance for me flame. Sue Her you her dreams as marshmallow. Dive in for teams marshmallow I'll get. Your hair grow. Download the flames touchy, Lewis. Why do you hate me? Fire give it two hundred episodes and your learn to love. Your Louis Marshmallow to fire. You don't have time to take off your accessories. You diving that fire. Get that marshmallow. It's as soon as as soon as. The Coles at the bottom that there it's just so hot. People do that all the time. They get drunk and fall into campfires. I would have picked him up and he just bent in the middle like all sad like Olympic. Other okay. They sounded like a lobster. You put it. Would have been great if you grabbed it and you had like the Bernard. Joe Pesci in home alone when it granted. Classes! You have aviators on your palm. Did you make bobby go to the immediate glasses stores? You can pick up now went glasses less for the whole weekend and camping in ninety six degree. Heat fucking sucks all the Dick in the world especially when you're with Robert, Kelly who always had not suck more Dick for him. He's got to be hot. Yeah Bobby Kelly. It always feels like it's ninety six. He's like the incredible hulk. He's like I walk around like this. With it's ninety six of its eighty two I mean that seems like a nightmare for him. You know he he was. You know there was just moments where he'd like. Sit Down and think. Take ice baths and. We have to think about the heat. Hang on, let me think it a route. There's only one route. It's a hike trail. Yeah, but that's what make sure. We're going the right way. 'cause we came in that way. We're going that way. Yeah, but let me think about it, bobby, what's that big topping the back of your car? He goes. Bobby poor recklessly water on his head. One Point I had to pat him down because he was just overheating house. Really. You're trying to wet. You're trying to wet a fucking beached whale. Coal Towel around his neck and I was like relax. fucking with bobby shirt like the hood of a call. Steam. Spotty runs like a sixty eight Mustang. Blown gasket. bobbies, the I gotTa die on a quest with a fucking. Wednesday and Dan around his neck. Coolant got gotTa Poor Cooling, on. An. overheating. To Ice Cream cones on. Its popsicles and his Norfolk. Cooling rods. Damn Dude me and you have a great back and forth. fucking. To Pete Sampras is playing against each other. No comment. On try to dance endorsement will be revealed Lewis says we can't. We can't campaign on our individual shows and platforms candidates. I'm sure Louis doing that. I was on Michael Malices podcast today, and he asked me all about the race. And the white race. Are the most. You guys agree on a lot, too. Oh, we get along famously. But he put up a poll on his twitter. He he was putting up a and who he should endorsed juice number two. The race is juice. Yeah, those are juice. Juice your mouth. Jude their June numbers for show. US Juniors I'm just making the point that there's another poll out there. Did it come up? Do we have it I? Don't know I haven't checked. Vote for you piece of Shit. He just voted off. You can't. You're literally fired. motherfucker kidding bobbies rehired. No, he's not he's not. You can't Rehire. You can't fire him yet. Everything's in limbo. Where everything's an escrow man, you're you guys. PODCAST is going to get side swiped by another one where you guys were political turmoil. When you don't have a clear leader. We need a leader. We're a country without a leader right now. It's very scary times. Who say who showed their? Day Smith big-time, ours fear, Lewis, not even home. Wow well. Damn. Michael malices defense. He had criteria that only the top three members from the Legion of skanks poll made out. Shit. Didn't make. That's fine, did Michael? Mouse himself even got two percent of the vote like a camping trip with Bobby Kelly is in alignment with Riley and things Matt has the same face that trump. Had Obama made fun of him? Dinner. You'll never be president. You Suck Louis Louis. Bobby Stu Borge his bobby going to lobby for you. That's why he is right. That is a riot has to fill. Jay We. Don't even know if bobby survived this weekend. Finish the truth, Bobby Bobby Bobby Bobby died. Oh, okay, bobby. Kelly's dead. No, he did shoot a straw what he did shit his pants. How or was he so hot that it just melted out of his butthole? Feedback and the. Shit for tomorrow, but it just seeped out today because my Tuesday's Day my Tuesday's. Thursday's himself. On! Today, we're packing up and I was giving him. Things like picking up things that he was like in the out of the truck and it was hanging heavy things. He's bent over and he goes. I Shit my pants. I. And then he fucking went over this in front of the kids. Yeah, the kids are fucking horrified and. They're telling the story in my face was over, so we're camping here and we have to get to. Do we avoided the pond. Max walkaway like you've seen it happen too many times. got. Bodies Bobby sort of has happened many times. He Goes Max Max. Bob, Daddy made a bull. Get, Daddy's public PM cloth. And then he went into the woods, and he took off his clothes getting. Pulled messages naked the woods Oh my God he's so lucky that I didn't fucking motion. Got the, great, hairless bear of. Bobby a board. For three days. There's a new role white dude. It's like dude that guy that's going to feed my family for a long. Naked, fat man, so that's good eating right there. Oh, my Lord, look prophecies fat, but he's also built like arenas like he's such a solid. It's all just grows outward. Those needs like an elephant. If you ever heard bobbies hilarious. Ironically a peanut allergy dude. He goes to white pass and he's got baby wipes and he's just why that's. The was dying laughing. I'm videotaping him and he sees me videotape him. I had to leave because he threatened my life. can't catch you dude. He goes. You have the audio like the end of Grizzly man now he looks right into. Her. See the thing is. It's like seven swipes, and then you ask you fucking taping. Our. Big To keep him away. James. James. bobbies losing it. Grizzly protocol. Camping he goes. Where do we do with? Our food retired up in a tree. Bobby doesn't go for. Bobby up high asleep. Is a coyote coming for his meat sweats. Came still meet in the middle of. What happened, raccoons came in the night and solar. Meet really we had. Next to you in a fire cooking, it and eating challenge you. What's up? Hey look what I found last night. One of the pack, a Hebrew national hot. One of the raccoons was wearing Lewis burnt glasses. Pitch, no, we had a guy to go. Get Wi fi for second something. And then we came back, and we just left steak on the table like inside of a like. We covered it, but there was a family raccoon just tearing through when we went camping with Bobby Ratko while we were all outside, just does he? He brings pet raccoons that are trained to steal. Records! Zimbabwe chance. To use. The single. Army of. All your treasure X.. COON, wearing Is recused. Still for me, my armie. US little hints. The rapper. All the kiddies. Iraq. taught him how to delicately hope potato chip bag. taught him how to makes s'mores. Bobby. Where's the Mardi Gras mask? So they think he's one of. Your bobby ten at night, talking to we really quick Jew. Ish! Shop I think it to all your. Here's a little bit of crumbs few Lewis Crumbs View Lewis's at the local podunk store, buying meats and he. Pretty crazy all those rockets. Ask. The native near you got. A tale of Christian. The size of a man. Controls all the time. bobbies the raccoon whisper. Native American Tale also I'm a fan of the possibility of bobbies dressing up. Food. Holy Shit things a monster. Well. Look what it eats. Bobby, what's this tale? Wait a second. Sorry dude raccoon all the cookies not against my diet if I'm dressed as Iraq. I'm Kito. Real fat pig! I don't even think bobby. Shit his pants. I think he was just going to pay off these raccoons. Five minutes because listen I can bring you back a couple Turkey. I had them in my ass. Tend to wipe. Telling US I mean the humiliation of wiping your ass in the middle of the woods. Shit yourself in front of a person's gotta be nightmarish. Not I don't think it's measuring I think it's happened to bobby I think it was like a whole thing on Opie and anthony regularly shit us too young to have a problem shitting his pants. What does that mean? Do you think there's some other group of Campers like donors out there who now believe in bigfoot? Absolutely I song his pants. Do they always having covered in hair, but he's cookie. A raccoon holding six packs. Here's laughing maniacally. He was laughing his raccoon. Joe What was the drive home like after he shows? I'll. How does it? He just shits his business like no big. Deal with the close. Now, you just kinda winged him into. Louis Fuck son of a bitch dude. You're not sorry. Sorry, not sorry I feel like that's a political move by the way. If I'm President I'm gonNA make Lewis Wear. One of those hats has to holders in the side fluids with a straws that go to his mouth. Who Guys? You really want me to stop knocking things over on the show. That is a very selfish. Big. Then love nothing like. Thank you Dan, but Dan think about the idea that you might love more Lewis Wearing fucking beer helmet every week, Jay. That's not in the plans for the candidate. You Know Rosen I've listened. I've listened. Admission going out I hear what J. saying I hear what Lewis. Saying I'm taking this in my goal is to make skanks funny again. I think Lewis. Billing things is funny. I say we're GONNA fill Lewis's cups higher and make the glasses shorter, more spills, and maybe more spells, and maybe A. Day to day. Meal. GonNa come here every week and loosen a fucking table leg. Going to start making fuck, Lewis feel crazy. Keeps Spell Stop Mayo. Tables moving. something. Like librium saw off dude, I'll talk. recalibrating robocop hold on hold on. Hold on. Every morning it is, it's also and then I'll leave the house. It's always between the hours of nine thirty and eleven thirty. Really fall apart. also. Some of the fans online they brought up an interesting point that legion of skanks used to be twice per week. Yeah! We used to be twice per week and you know. After we left compound media, we started doing on our on again. We went back to once per week and that was not my doing. I want you to do just give technicalities and what Lewis saying. Can I finish you already? Know moderating. A moderating big donor in the room. They don't earn the as far as Lewis good. You know. Big was too busy user-owned bonfires. He was in Sdr once bonfire twice per week. It was just too much going on. Everyone's very busy Dave is part of the problem once per week. Everyone's busy legions. Thanks wanted to work with you. I You know I always wanted to? Twice per week, these guys were too busy then all of a sudden. The drinks right by Lewis's flailing hands. Thank you look at Jay trying to. Give everyone finish what you're saying. I'm excited, so yeah, here's what I will tell you right now. If I am elected president of Lena, skanks I will campaign and do everything in my power to restore league. Two shows per week. Wow, that's a big campaign. The only reason we wouldn't do that. is if either of your other presidential candidates did not want to do that? Yeah well both of us. And I'll tell you there's a technicality in this. We were doing the show for about an hour and a half twice a week on the Kumi network I was doing bonfire twice a week and SDR show. Once a week and also stand up comedy in traveling. What I thought was a happy medium was hey, why don't we have one big fucking blowout party on Legion skanks go for two hours more than the original show of an hour and a half and that way. We'll have some lose time I'll also have some loose time so I can now do. Four days a week of the bonfire. Comedy Radio Siriusxm. President drive home, but I'm GONNA. Make this show is gone for you. I'll say I'm speaking strays. Let me just get a word in their. Candidates have partial has made an excellent point about how he wanted to do it. Twice a week and NJ didn't j. went off on something about how it was his idea to do two hours. None of that really John Lewis is. Absolutely right. One hundred percent. Lewis's right and he makes a really good case that he deserves to be president. Here's the thing nothing about what Lewis said even slightly funny. And, there's really nothing funny about giving the guy who deserves the job. The job I was hilarious is giving me the guy who clearly deserves the least the job and making Lewis Furious Smith twenty two thousand eight makes. Dave. Dave Hey. Three to ringing with chance of Dave, he brought up a good point. You're basically calling Lewis all setup punch. WHO. Misses entire. Life is a setup everything about what Lewis is is setting up. No, I'm not saying. Lewis has no punch. You get straight punchline. Real. would. You go over the. Way I wonder which which was going to get actually hurt you every week. It's fluid last place is. Blue Louis. Louis Chair! Again the funniest thing that happened on this episode so far is Louis coming to grips with the fact that I am going to win this presidential election and right. Yeah Lewis now consistently turned on the audience both weeks because the audience here means nothing to me. The audience he says here's a bunch of fucking loser bees. This crown loser ugly Fat Wannabe, all of you. You're fat. I see a group of people that come out during the hottest day of the year. Fuck U S. Louis I'd like to take you back in time to go when you go and then when they know me. Love Me. They want me to lead the right. Listen to those cheers a fuck Lewis because right when they hugged me. I throw Comoro. fucking arm! They don't hug me. Damn, set him up. You'd knock him the fuck down. Damn! Hearts beating is one. That's why we that's why we get paid four days a week as a revenue stream revenue stream that could go somewhere very discoverable. Scenes, but I'm happy for both of you, guys. What's your show called billions I? I'm really proud of. Louis Louis come on. Don't shut down. The people here don't like is they're still here. You know go might show up at the polls. Show if they can get there if they can rent a jazzy and time to make their. I'm sure they can't get there on their own feet because they're all purple and weird like orders. J You. Don't have to go anywhere to vote. You fucking idiot. You do it from your computer. Then they're all over it. They fucking tight with your tongue. Do you get so upset. I don't want you upset the QUADRIPLEGICS, yeah! Who's is going after the no limbs. Because their hands. Aren't third. Lennox city boardwalk performers. Chicken nuggets or my favorite human. You're my best motor. Guys just and their hands and feet. They're all holding chicken drumsticks so I want all the people that can be spun around giant chicken nuggets to vote for. It takes the polls teeter-totters, Dave. You're playing this at a very smart pace. You're just waiting for Louis. Louis Jada turn on each other. Level, which is the reason I got into the race I didn't even want to run I. They both declared their candidacy and I was like okay. We'll see who the man is, and I was just unsatisfied with either of their a platforms. He was secretly hoping you were going to be immediately picked for VP. No I didn't want the damn. I've never seen a political power. Dave wants to show up. Do The show leaves and? showed up at Kennedy accent. Allegiance gang myself to apologize for hitting a check with my car. I was in Western, Massachusetts and murder. All that was sixteen I didn't kill, but I did not report it. All I have a cousin that murdered a girl with a golf club or he didn't even didn't even hit with a car. He drove her into a lake. gave her the stay. Dumb Bitch Swim. Along. What I got to shore I was like Darlene. How how amazing are the fucking eighties seventies? Whenever that happened that that was a political scandal. You could recover from yeah. I drove into a lake ones, but there's no twitter. Now you back! You laughed at a black joke once. What we did. Did you talk during soul point? Player three out of five star review, cancel. What's wrong with you? Life gotten a lot tougher. Cancel. His mother fucking ass I mean. You're dude. He Shell Shock. This camera has to be. It has to be some sort of setting. It has to be something. It's fucking SUMP Louis. Don't have nine. It's not moving the light once like he literally they adjusted the light like it did nothing. I this is happening to you I hate. This is happening to you on a prescription. Was Fashion Glasses night? Tell you. We're. Not attached to a wall. Fair that's fair. That's why these white Dave's GonNa Steal. This thing right from under us by the way this we're fearless loves in summertime. You make me sick I hate ciandella held on. Lewis that was fucking hilarious is making fun of your glasses were wearing a chain while not attached to a wallet, and I would just like to point out. That angry Lewis is the funniest Lewis. This is loses meltdown over. The camera is going to be his Howard Dean. Looks good looks good. Cabraha. Just has to be. Able to the movies. Maybe a little better leader. Are you a fucking? Is it the focus. Look good and don't know Dan looks like he's fucking. He'll dreamy. This is not. Lewis is a few minutes from realizing that Dan just better looking than his. The same camera a women women seem to respond when he's on the screen I don't like. It was cameras bullshit I. don't even have had their Dan is also out there looking. Always loses by the way my friend is the most insecure now. He's the most honest with me out of all. My friends 'cause. Lewis said early on. You know what he goes sodas, not attractive. He's just attractive next to weird comics. Lewis figured it out. That is dance charming. Nice, successful great! He's ugly, though and it needs to be pointed out Dan hangs out with ugly comics to make himself more attract Louis starting to learn my game of shadows like he's like we can see like a chicken's like not really hopping hangs up all fat jokes, and you're like okay. She's hot one, but then you realize a bunch of hot girls so Lewis, but one of those factors really broke through and stole his heart. This guy right here. I actually knew who you were talking about. I didn't need the reveal. J. Jerry Donahue. Who that girl is this guy right here? It's a caller. Correct, you think, bobby. It'd be a color now. You're going to be Puerto Rican and anything we do. I know you're trying to win an election here, but you gotta correct these colors. Let's say something. There see bobby this what I'm saying Davis turning into eight looks like a fucking vampire, always vampire, now you. May you whitewash Dave too much darker up Lewis a little bit and Dave. Dave Albanian. With the fuck is that Dave does. Bring them up too much. You brightened. Update whatever you're doing that changing setting louis great as far as running for president. Is this what your campaign is going to bring sidelining? So you can look good. You can look at it in the walk. You I love to answer that question. Bobby can make me look not fuzzy. You look good Lewis. Dude that's what you look like. Do you see what I'm saying. Go back to Dan. Go back to Dan. Look at Dan and Jay now look at. It looks like they're being shot on a fucking. Fuck. It's something like when you look at it. Cam and J. it just looks like they belong together are. Perfect team. I've been thriving in the Mascara. Our, so it's like extra high deathly Dan's wrinkles. Yup now like that. Nobody women like an experience man. Dance made of porcelain. Now. It's just not like Davis wrinkles in real life. You can't see his wrinkles. Because both ago, you were. Let go from the police department. You're making David. fucking sun poisoning and he looks fantastic Dave was fucking killing it when you blew weird. Hugh about you. I was doing good when Lewis was complaining, you fucking frozen. The weird fucking, come come, please please. What Am I. It doesn't even matter. None of it matters. What do you mean? Entered his listrik face. None of this is real anyway. We're all GONNA die. I'm. Going off ticket. Don't insignificant. Paul's. Does the waste your time with the only time with God when Utah Worm Food Dude? NIHOLAS, Lewis, pretty bad ass. Fuck you do. Set Lewis. I'm sorry, not upset. Fine. Everything's good your candidate that Dave's the lead You Know Me. Damn, we're thinking. We should talk about that red table with. Will Smith and Jada Pinkett. We brought that topic. We figured we talk about. He brought that topic to the table. We will. Smith, legitimate you do notice. You don't know this story I heard peripheral edge. Don't care about stuff like that so I don't i. I don't particularly care either. End. Up seeing people tweet the video out, and as much as I, don't usually get into that type of celebrity gossip, shit I I was actually kind of shocked by that one was when it's just will smith publicly having the wife tell his world that tell the world. Has She took other Dick? Mad, video. It's pretty uncomfortable. Will Smith has to do a lot of pretending. He's not mad when he's clearly furious like. Tell them what you take. These furious I think is crushed tons of. He's furious that he's being publicly humiliated. Did you see? When she goes I got into an entanglement. He goes okay. Tell them what. Yeah. She's like I'm GonNa. Go through my sex noises that I made with him. Pictures on the this is what he was really good every every time he's with Jada, Pinkett. When Wilson's would Jada Pinkett, she always has that little fucking like the cover of the Chia Box Fox hare the Chia pet, and then whenever she was with the other guy pictures. She's back to like long hair sexy Jada Pinkett when they were split up. So it's pretty funny how? Some her son's friend. He's like a singer, funny friend. What's funny is? Killing, But. What's really funny? Little Wayne interview that guy. Like hang on guys Colombian school. That's the that's the Guy Jada Pinkett fucked. Yeah! August Alsina who's doing press, but he was, he did it a little wayne show little Wayne's I guess podcast or web show. is they the person, but you're in the room with little Wayne and it's just him rolling joints and pouring booze and. That's crazy have. You guys. Wow Man's craze. It's just there's no information. How you get. It's funny, but they're taking agree with the current short term lending them. Do shows like that. You pick up a Nissan. Are taking off shows that you can make racist just by the silliness of the actual thing. They scraped from the Internet from most things. I've seen and Dan. You remember remember marshawn. Lynch reacts to people with talent. Great that web videos. Marshawn Lynch like somebody would come into goes. I can limbo down to like six inches off the floor and they do he was. Why? He Ain't through that. No Way all girl. And it was fucking crazy, and it's to rate we have. It's just like black. You'll reaction the magic videos with one guy. It was so racist. They just race. They got rid of it eventually. pull up the worst thing video. In the new president of skanks make sure all the headphone jacks were accordingly. I cannot promise that I will do that, but I will set a task force. Oh, that will make sure were that we get to the bottom of this headphone Jacks, ironic leader. They'll cast Lucia Gomez, I'll be honest with you guys. Lewis is going to be the Lord ever. that. We're never going to be able to make sure. These headphone jacks to stay plugged in the whole show. Thank you that honesty I have an honest leader. Well I've actually proven honest leader why off Lewis may not make head of my task force attitude gear, so no cabinet position for Lewis J Gomez. If I'M NOT GONNA say no cabinet position to change his attitude a little bit. That's for sure Vice President Dick, around with the microphones and Shit. Thanks though Dick around whatever you want to. I want access your cabinets. Snacks and James Goes I knew you're hiding all the good stutthof. Jochen. Trader Joe's fucking was working I hope you like organic pretzels. There's another. They're changing a lot of their names to shut trader Joe's. Did you hear? The I guess because. This is what the whole black lives matter protests has come to. Is that trader Joe's won't like his changing their racist names. Like. The trader Joe's they. It's spelled T.. R. A. T. O. R. J.. Trader Joe's you uncle Tom Motherfucker. Economically traded slaves. Trade, your, you're sleeping for his delicious organic this. Original? Yeah, that was the original thing. He's doing. He got such great prices. Jay doesn't pay his Labor. He's still wearing that flowery shirt. They'll have to wear. Plantation I'm treated. Joe, it really is decorated like a plantation if you ever go to. Heal racist shakes way officers. Hay bails around. Will they they call. I'll they call? They call their salsa like trader. Or some shit. I go, fuck? We gotTA stop doing that I thought they called a spit ketchup. Oh easy I'm talking about three. Joe would say Holy Shit. You Square you hear that. This guy supports the cops. Blue lives matter whatever blue lives matter what? Large matter. Who was that? You. Doing you may. Did you find the camper all the chance? We've started that really horrible that made. The Sun. Will rise whereas. Check the temperature. At home with fucking channel Luis. Larrea suit, black homeless guy outside and one hundred and three degrees all day. Here that I hope that homeless died of heatstroke today. You don't mean that. What was your fan? You guys were Dan. You served asking that dance contest. He you hate him. He's kept on interrupting. The show deck at the was actually much better than we thought he would. He sat there and enjoyed the show, and then you try to fight him afterwards. Oh, you did you got nothing with map thing with what happened? Louis kept going near him. Well waiting for them to unfold, really yes, what happened I didn't see any. It wasn't Rodney. The remember what the exact problem was. Because I. Don't know how to couple of whiskies. Decided have man to man with them. They almost fist fought over. Who is better, KIP? Winger Sebastian Bach. Lewis will do that and you know you will. Is that if there's a situation where there might be a fight that goes down? Louis gets himself in the mind. State of like okay I'm ready for this fight to go down. And then he almost has like fighting blue balls because it's not happening solicitors. closers crazy. Yeah it was, but nothing happened. Thank God. Lewis's as They chums Ari hard. Did he was fucking one hundred ten pounds yet? Eight Strauss for block and a half. Hitting a fight area. Oriented words he just kept looking staring are right in the eyes and tell me who's GonNa fuck his hit story out early and didn't like him I think. It was the face in the suit that was a lot of really quick is we have to thank one of our incredible sponsors? WHICH IS INFINITE CB? Guys if you guys. Really, almost any sort of physical affliction, physical pain anxiety anything CBD can be the answer. Go onto. Google right now a little bit of research, an infinite CBS cleanest purist. 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Actually aren't so the campgrounds Koa there's like a pool. It's a sign up to go into the pool. Roche and It was actually the way. Now sounds awesome. It's Nice your pool time with Bobby. I have to wet him or his talk. Listen lifeguard I know it's adults right now. I got roll this bad boy and I know it's lap swim after fucking oil. This bad boy up a little bit quick math question What's the water displacement on this Pool Dam? Dude we find a topic and we just fucking ring it out dude. I don't even know how we do. It just starts happening and. That's why those checks go to a specific flow and flow APP flow very specific account. I hope you could canceled. It's always. It's always a minute down the pike. Lewis is GONNA. Start sending emails to serious about fucked up. Here's some of them on a podcast. Smith pretty problematic. Making fun of Polish people from a hammerfest. and. Shit and you from Hammerfest? Recorded Senate of Hammerfest in two thousand ten. This is an illegal recording I think. He's still in the poor in two thousand eight. Just conversation the I go I'll tell you. The real problems are the Chechnyans. Now they're the real. Dan going right in Chechnya and don't they? Have it bad enough already? Right so the Will Smith database the video. Cuts let's say. I think you need to say clearly what happened as far as what you. Want me not, why are we talking about? Why do you smell like perfume because what? I think it's time to talk about when you talk about what say what? Comfortable moment right there. Okay, so do whatever. Jason before he was like plenty of Pussy. It was sort of like the tone here from that little moment will Smith is not happy. Well he's an. I don't think he cares that. She looked up with somebody I think he fucked a bunch of people who cares what he cares about. Is that a public thing that she fucked? This just looks funk, ed still even if you were getting Posey on the side for the world to know her schick getting Dick from some twenty something you're. The. Okay I'll tell you what though I bet. He's way happier in the household that he's the guy who has that fucking thing versus like? They found that they're like he fuck Carmen Electra. And why were they doing this on a public forum. Out so the. Okay so the guy. Guys. Up Sorry guys go to Puckett smersh dot. com, grab the brand new. Campaign t shirts yet. Gomez Gomez for President Overson, Gama. Smith Gomez and the. FEAR FEAR WITH She fear for president as well. All those shirts dude grapple four collectors only available to Friday the twenty four th at midnight. They stopping on sale, so she got grab. Full price three hundred dollars a shirt. And three of those are going to be like super. Bowl champion buffalo bills. They're going to be on fucking Africans eating would. Do not know who is orcas go amiss. Here. It goes great under my Shawn Kemp Supersonics Jersey. okasan Gomez shirt. So i. pull this video of this fucking uncomfortable as Very on with they do this. Why are? We putting up, sorry. How did it come? Good Guy? He starts saying. Here so she told the story. Visa Pink. Pink. She told he's like while they charlie and I thought. I fought Jada. Pinkett while were married. Why would he say that I? Don't know because it's true because he's got a little Louis J Gomez in. Realize doing obviously, but why would he say? Why would he do that off? I was. Killing this guy. because. He likes her still he likes. I fell in love with. ME. I just believe in Long. Jada Pinkett Smith. ooh! Fuck. Joe Tell will. Smith asked sticking. Pinkett. Who's though tell Wilson. UH, ooh! Weird Book you rhyme to Smith Smith Google. Ticket Smith, are you even listening? Producer! Because you give me cody Carlson. SCISSOR hit record don. Parked asking. About the destruction of the middle class. Is that singer that he's one of those like new fuck in. rappers. No He's like A. Music seconds well I would love to be around me rice. It's going to be my body all over your body, she. It was like Keith Sweat. IQ play the video, and then we'll play music going to. See more of the video. This is crazy I had no idea. I swear to God. I just knew that apparently they some other people while they were fucking some other people. No, it wasn't eyes wide shut. People. What's up to people's People's. I mean because this is your table and you brought yourself to the red table at thank. You need to say clearly. What happened I love role, Smith. Yeah. He's great. This is he's. He does not want to be there and he's just like man. Fuck, you. The camera, it doesn't matter. He couldn't have our heat, not normally. He couldn't have handled it any better than he did. In the circumstances you could say we're not doing this on camera you fucking. twenty-one. Pick that you. Vote for Lewis's way of handling if. We're talking about. Will Smith would have gone full Kennison. Arrest. Ellis, he's. He's. He's not getting beat. He's getting mad. Goes honestly, if was her cover short hair painted into that. Over here cut? Stop in Hancock start being more of a real. Let's make this table little, red or your dumb Hor here's the thing is that Lewis is only the voice of reason. When uncontrollable rage is what's called? So actually in that situation. Lewis who you WANNA take counsel from. But. If you're going to go on camera and do this. Which is insane? Will Smith handles it? I guess as good as you can do. Let me tell you something. Why like this particularly and I've only watched one other episode of this show before the Red table talk and it was I. Think we did this on the bonfire with Snoop Dogg, right? What's do dog was on there? Because he was saying, he called Gayle King a bitch. Whatever you call it a bitch, and said all this stuff and she got like dachshund line everything so he he had to apologize for that Shit. He went on the Red Sea. We'll talk about that. And it was all about talk. Cohen bitches and Shit and he. It's the craziest thing I've ever seen to. Do you remember this? JUKEBOX! He goes she. He's like it was just like park. Right like he would. He'd write such a beautiful song right and then next song they. She'd be like Bitch Ho. He's like I. Just couldn't stop hock from doing that man was all crazy anyway. I'm sorry I'm GonNa. Take off and he's like a park. Man could have been a good do, but many bitch so much I have to get out of here though I mean he just really under the, but you could bring that video. It's insane. What a Pussy! He I'M SUPER SIZZLE! That's. Six saw. That I called you fizzle. Ever since brain injured. I'm not nor mizzle. Remember. He does. He says something. He was just like pocket. He goes I really. Don't even want to say bitch, but everyone was like you have to you. Have to say say. He goes, he goes, say in front of me and I said to park. We're GONNA. Be Late for a flight and he said say that you can't leave the hotel room. But I didn't mean. Wasting. Time I was recording. My fingers is behind my back. Oh, I was delighted meaning pitches Harvey. I'm in Queens. I had the crawl song, so it's who. It's one of. WILL SMITH VIDEO Smith has the power at the Red Table. The power. So what is the red? Tell table by though she calls people there to. Them throw the Jada Pinkett Smith. It's her show her show. Yes, yeah, Oh, she called her husband to the Red Table. It's the. Biggest thing on the Internet for days, so she's as a businesswoman. That's smart kind of. The kind of a real ass chick. She's the real tonight by her hair. I would. Her hair shorter than CISCO's. fucking I would hundred Helmsley pedigree her through the red. Table Hunter S. Helmsley hearst Helmsley. Oh! Awesome. It's hundred hundred asshole sees the writer the. Wrestler. I'll tell you what's bad as Head agreeing chick through a table that there's like a full. Set up to that. You're like you know. He's about to pedigree point ever camera yet she's. She keeps going back foot. Gentlemen listen. Okay. Close announcement. You have an announcement of announced. You're running. You're running for private announced announcement. What nothing? Now the announcement Lewis I don't know the answer. But I'm good. I'm good at being a leader of a show so I. Hope it's good for let it ride again, but then why if you're good at playing like you don't know the announcement, why did you just say? No the, but that really takes the steam added by saying I really do. I don't I don't care. I'll play. Let's let's check loses racks. Let's go. That that random laughter the backgrounds yeah, that's the goal might. That's like I'm with them till the end. Lewis! President Dave Smith was assassinated. Alone go might. I'm not sure I want this job. I didn't think this through loses i. Really doesn't want the job is Jay. Jay's made Lewis is vice president so all? He's begging one crazy. Go to take him out. I'm GONNA give all the technical power to Louis and I'm just going to have all the creative. Now upright the creative to. I'll just keep showing up every week being film, Dan. Lewis good. I'll say this skanks that Lewis is. More capable than he gives on I think he likes to play down a little bit well. We all know that yeah, but I think he also authored I think he's got a lot of good qualities and could be a good president of skanks. Fucking, endorse what? Did. He just threaten you. I know things are bad. Things. About them so that what did he hear you will many? People would want to know now. Let me just tell you can with. Don't listen to his threats of route. It's two thousand twenty. I can just make something up in. That'll ruin. It doesn't matter if it happened. Child rapist in if I choose hey, is it weird that Michelle Wolf is on the Epstein logs? Acted and someone has real power. I was over on mill violent ass. ballers our. Skin with Apollo. I was on geriatric. Over guelff springs. Broken. is like a pervert resort. I gotTA, double H J from girls wearing flapper girl. I know a lady that sucked off Truman play. Keep up playing chemo playing each from a whore a u boat. Brought yourself to the Red Table. Thank you need to say clearly what happened as far as what you? DECIDE WE'RE GONNA. Take our space and what happened? And then I got into an tangle moment with. August. That's what I say in entanglement. By the way bobby, go back. Want you see what she says? That's what I said. This smirk on her face. She's like you're gonNA. Make me say you motherfucker right. She has the face. She's like I am like she just realized herself that she's trying to make a big deal. That I had A. Naked lay down with the person. Y. I feel blind rage for will Smith. Well. Now's the time all cursing. J. J. Does explaining it like explained sex to a kid that walked in on it. She goes sometimes mommies and daddies hug yeah. Get entangled with your son's friend. Now both a mommy and daddy's place. Sometimes the daddies make the mommies come a water balloon amount of come. It was a simple sentence. That Lewis said I. Mean You just rolled for two minutes? Do I don't know how the fuck we do pro, but we do it. Look even the crowd getting tired of it. WHOA WHOA WHOA. Blind you. Same same over and over come on, guys. That's what you're getting with. Lewis on that thing. Jay wants the well one too many times. It's possible. and Dave will make legion his. Again. You see this is the one. that. You ought to go fuck. Yourself Hates Augustine. Hope should get Kovic again next week. This what you guys want inner skanks fighting like this getting no work done. They say yes, then no, Don down for the record I've tried my best to stay above the negative I know you have to homos. Keep dragging me down with Dave I. Have I've collected revenue from bonfire and for billions and I decided I. don't want to be a candidate. I want to back the right candidate so I started the suit soder Super Pac but I am officially no endorsing come on. Folks. Are Fear for stanks president. A proud member of the soder Super Pac. Better skanks. Outside skanks. Mr Aria Shift. Can't. Suit. Different. Two different to Dave I can't argue with a guy who can afford to suits. He's given out money he's. Sheffield. Vote for the gangs Jeez MARROCCO. Funding his campaign I have started I've started boost. I am the coke brothers to shift. I am his George Soros. Yes, I've provided with cocaine at. High know they are weird, old white dudes from your country. You're wearing the shirt already. When was this plan made? How could you not pack me? I'm a radio partner Jason. The plan was made when I decided to watch you. Minions fight amongst yourself for president of skanks I'd pick a real winner tamped right. This is the original drop zero. WHAT THEY HERO! A real threat to my momentum shiftier fest. It was all setup since then so you get, so you can full years through full years. President. J I told you just have financial influence over some decisions bid. Yes, quite a bit wait. Did you hear? Flip the script Dave us. Wait a minute. It's a soda. Run media now. Pack, yes, run media. It's alcoholics in terrible people. Running soda runs on by the Super SUPERPAC. By the way are are super PACs to check loan center that I I. Don't tattle. Fantastic shirt, it says Lewis is a pedophile. Davison Ozzy just has my death state next year. Eleven seventy seven. Zero to twenty one so by your fear for presidential. Term Twelve. That's not my pizza. Minute, dirty money would corrupt this race and you know the segments i. know about you now. You've really put them all at risk. You can't hurt me. Okay, we'll see. Here in the motorcycle Lewis by the way. Paid for with billions of dollars well, no, it's actually my it's. It's some dollars from billion. BILLION DOLLARS Some billion of, dollars. Billions of dollars. Heard that wrong. Banks we hear correctly. Thirty goes ooh. That's fabric. The dirt that Lewis has on Dan is like really nothing. Yeah, he's like you knew how Dan known for being friendly well, he's not always that friendly one time. He told me he pay me back and he hasn't. Probably Survive. Soft. Soft Cancel Shit. Were supposed to go on vacation together and he re for months, and it never came through. Gag Him from underneath me. He's my George Soros J. it's not about being against you. It's about funding someone that can get the things done that I wanna see get done or What do you want see get done. Why didn't you give him I WANNA see all I? Want to see the skanks together again shortly. Them, because they think it's funny. Oh! That is the best for this show. Always GonNA treat. It anymore. I will sleep better. Knowing that are has his thumb on the ball or he's not going to bring us together. He stands for mayhem. Ju Staff. Already everyone Ari. Down that are. Good campaign trademark the name Legion of skanks and then make us weekly like you have to rename the show. He, asked hats and a jerk off. My team of lawyers is already all over it. Who out there with like Holy Shit Dude there like large, extra large shirt of these. There's only three and exists. It's twenty dollars twenty dollars cash. Dollars my pocket. Lou a also. Excels in one large twenty dollars cash. Wrought shirts. No there aren't even the orange a fierce digital. Completely irrelevant, thank you sir. This is going into a side fund. Competing printer yeah. What are you got your your extra right? I'll be honest Lewis. Initia- pictures good setup. That's a good sixty bucks right there. Really Good Hey Joe. Twenty Bucks, right. Now Turn Louis. Jay's microphone off. It's your job. He do that I'll a little I will. Never. Two minutes to other earth. J You have the floor. Oh my God I'm. Really getting into his campaign I gotta be honest. Dave I hope you didn't think I would make just a quick foolish mistake I mean. I've my whole campaign has been about making the skanks funny again. Seems like the funniest possible thing that can happen I. Did this move because I love? Jay and I want J. for myself out. Corona Corona. Lewis slow no not oh garbage juice. Ed Not on his second suit. That's the good suit and Dave. This was a this was a selfish move because now if Jay's all. Back on Bonfire, yeah, okay, that kind of makes sense. Take attention away now. What is your heart is in? It still bonfires a show that six to eight PM Monday through. Radio show on a really Fox television channel. TV Station, no good radio station. Saying there hanging in there still me and Dan or one of me and Dan. Trash over here. I know my hands. Restaurant track. Swells like can I get some? Damn it smells bad. Can you take it back, please? The afternoon summer camp. K. Mike! Garbage away. Just, as as President I want you to this badly? I would never make you pick up garbage. I would make Lou out Lewis facing it, and then I would make him put it away. Let seems a little Milton J. you're in the running for my secretary of him. Thank you. Thank you. Dave. Everyone's going to get a position. I came to my vice presidential hopefuls. I've narrowed down the list. All White Man as you said as I said, it would be all white man okay. It's the only way obviously all only to choose white. Man! Number one a regular show I think I love him. And like Mr, Mike Candidates said he'd be lovely on the show. Seems anticlimactic. Hand he's a junior senator junior senator. He's got some connection. My cannons going to move the needle and on the. Reason I say. As a as a play on emotion in this game, it's not really going to drive people direction. Next is a lover fighter Mr Mark Norman has said he extremists running. Go to go to bed at night and I go. How is this your fear Norman ticket? Not Happening. I mean Norman is also into chaos. He is isn't a chaos and I did think about black people do but as. I don't WanNa be, but he was dangerous around women. Oh suppose to say just like. Snake. You Bite. You. Guys I know you like a lot. A lot of people know him as interest chance three more weeks, but if I'm President I say twelve more months of Joe Derosa Shit? By by a part of my platform is six months ban. Lewis as as assets, my band. You? Fuck, you! Turn right back to you I'm a nine months, Jay We've been doing some polling in the. We. Can we put on the table? Presidential power means you could ban and he gets them the show. Yes? One. Doesn't matter would ever fuck it. Up My donations ten. You'RE GONNA. Give you the power. skank, yes. He's GonNa just ban our guest each Joe Rogan's band. Come on Joe. Guess, what you're going to get an old telephone, so you can call it in like. I said Bob. He's GonNa have to have a hotline ready to go. If it's not one of US bobby hotline I I. I will say that I think that Lewis's banning of Joe. derosa is a bit too much, but twelve more months of Joe Derosa. No one wants to see that. There's a reason moderate position. Here is to allow Jota to pop in and smoke a cigarette while you're a hell of a candidate. By the way I see that as being fair, but twelve mandatory months is tough. It's something that the candidate Nice. But, he's definitely going to be a possibility every single week. Guys, a lot of people have status quo. Maybe maybe already live on the has a. we should give them a half hour segment. Six. Sir How do you feel about? Socks right, thank you. bye-bye! To sit that. That represents the view of the general public. How do you? Scan An. Joe Is because I don't know what's going to happen at this virus. Get back on the road and needs to have someone who guaranteed will not be on the road. We'll be able to. Vote. Is a good move. You know where he's. You know he's by a computer. Yeah, handle ship. My next on my list of white men as more. There's two more. Jessica Curson everybody Oh. She's enough to do the job and she hates people. Recently, we found out so. This is one for skinc to has to be a white male. Pretty much okay. What somehow that all adds up? Possible, all announced US next week. Everybody I'm not GonNa keep you suspense very law. or He's just made himself on the show every week now. He's in the running dude. You can't argue that playing. In front of their. Pulled doing quite well. In the trash still smells. Something else smelling. It was. Just now my guess is going to be. It's the trash bag that you dumped on the floor five feet from where we're sitting. On his head. Come Out? That use still here I'm actually happy. They didn't come back because I would have felt bad. The more I think about it was an overreaction. On a hot summer's night. New York trash. Lewis needs darker liquors. Good Call Tom. You. Let's get him something wintry. My last one that I'm considering. You know all about intelligence and funny. Sometimes you need a fighter to just like Bryant calends shop. For my running mate, considering two-time UFC, loser Mickey Gaw. Wow. Three days. On it let those people know what you'd like to see them. As over duties in all all narrow down I'll be back next week by the way I. also I'm going to be announcing my. Candidate next week as well. WE ALL OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCE IF I. I like the VP announcement next week. Heavy into some commercial solutions. Let's do it because I literally probably GonNa have a ex girlfriend of Lewis body show up soon. Dance got bottomless money knowing. Attacked Karen Fee Han. 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Com Promo Code Legion. Let's get back on. The show are before you came. We were watching Jada Pinkett. Oh, yeah, continue to put the fucking. Did you watch ten seconds other? We keep on stopping Oh. Yeah Tangle. The entitlement. Or you know who that guy was before the. came out with it. Gadget say if is like at this point, a serious candidate. He was pulling in second place after this week. I have a feeling. He's going to get a bum. He's got a super PAC behind hard work and media behind. fucking. I I will say I'm not against it I'll tell you I'm being tempted to support the president. Say I'm not convinced yet, but I do think that. Ari should have to take a lie detector tests just like the three of us data if he wants to be president. Pain. Dave. Not only is that. Not only, is that fair? Pretty funny never brought a good idea to show ever the see credible. Sit this quilt. It'd be fair first time I ever any idea. First One's good. Percent Your pets. Aren't you? Are you willing to take a lie detector test next week? When we announced vice presidential candidates here, I'm. Live at the stand comedy club. Are Don't duck the. Consulting, but we all stepped up to the plate and did it. FUCKING! I hate to show gay Dave hates this show. But I was honest about it. Yeah, something about Louis. I will take detector test. Not Happy about it, but I'll take stepped up to the plate. Shit. Sending questions now. Thanks G. MILL DOT COM someone to sounded a conch shell on the Internet. All. These birds left to tree. Any question you ask. Since you came late and there's so many more people there is now I think you should have to answer ten questions. Graduates. How you answer. As we all did we answer ten? Guys did five realized. Shut the fuck up. Your Super PAC knowledge. What are these loving full of? Shadow Shit. You Think Bobby? Orr Alex's double agent who my God. He's got an. Vote for you in the bucket poll. I know for a fact that two of your employees are Tim Dillon. Payroll I know that. Shit they got that Tim Dillon Yeah. It's coming in Fast Oh shit, that's all leads back to Roquette. Follow them on all the money all the money. Other everyone's career hearing. All leads back. Outside force, Dude! I'm like a Swiss banker that just. That just likes Gill filing fucking. You really are fucking. Epstein no one knows how does. There's no record of University of Arizona. Just doing open mics all the so he has billions what? I. Would Be the you made all your money in like a Bob Marley CD. CD kiosks and Maine I. Go, you don't know. Marley. I'm the King of Missouri I walked out Yakov Schmear. Bought Kenny, wait shippers and times. riffing that the bonfire four nights a week. which is. Rest. season. easiest is crack crack everybody. was all the dolts Google do? Were calling our fans dawn the bonfire fats gay pitch Faggot fucking. SOCK. On fire. Outside right now. This is the reason that. Is Not twice per week. indirectly. Catch your back on this. When Lewis, this angry, Lewis is the type of Louis. You'll see every week. Every week. I will make him this furious. Get Ten day coming back. Horse Dave that Horse Dave. Hashtag. Second Right now. I don't think Lewis understands how elections were. Number One Thought he goes. And the reason I get so wound up in moments like this. I know that we have like three more days, so we could broadcast the talk it all out. Four days is a lot. I'M GONNA. Be Honest. I didn't want to push a pass to. What when that moment came with, that could be some money. I could use the fund fear of skanks. President I swear to God i WanNa, Stretch Dan to the lie detector and ask him if you like skanks more than bonfire, sit down and so. This guy I think wants to just do scan Dan. Let's do it four days a week three hours a day. He talked me down to two. I went kimmy get half of the money as a political donation. I said Yes blindly do everything in my power to make skanks twice per week. Everything I can do I'll try to. It's a tricky thing. He's lying to everybody because it can't happen, didn't you try that once and fail at it? I did try I did. Try but I will say you'll. Well. WWF, did and have your own diesel and Razor Ramon because. It's just fucking executive. Two days a week just one. Back and one of the twin brothers from property guys. said he wanted to be on. TIKTOK, play every character? Though in your head. Hungry I want a cigarette. I will I promise you? As President I'll bringing up ad, nauseam I'm sure we had the ADS in place. I'm executive for everything points I'm making super easy for them. They will have to admit that they hate the show in order to not do it twice. Let me, just say for the record I've already. I'm on record Yankee will. Tell you as Louis Talks about the ADS that come in I'll be worried about the creativity and the amazing the show. I don't know which one you care about. What are you saying that you're GonNa make the skanks funny again. That's my centerpiece. A I'll tell you this. You'RE GONNA give up on and then back Ari then we'll use that a part of our platform the we're not revealing that for at least two. Can we please? Sorry. Ari Dave ticket would be nearly unbeatable Oh. We have. Louis, there's big light conference. I thought you were already Otis government Louis. Louis. You're. Not. GonNa fall apart already. Come one. We'd have sex. Yeah, no, it's all. OCHRE is. For me to be okay with no go Kherson much. Jayantha Goldensohn! Go Persson. Better felt like a fucking like a warrior. Jails J. S. coker suggest. J. J. Yes. For. One of the Shitty guys listen to. Jay J. US Open for. James Shreds shreds. Play the fuck. It Will Smith video that we've been able to watch ten seconds of. Why why? Why did they do this video for the crazy? I'm pretty sure what they had in. Mind was legion of skanks content. into an entanglement with. August, that's what I said. Yes. Yes. It was relationship absolutely housing alliance word is? Broken? Now in the process of that relationship, I definitely realized that. Champion happiness outside of yourself. By your son's friend. ME. Getting really dug up by this due to figure out, because I'm not GonNa lie, I heard hip hop, and then I kind of started thinking I was happy I was maybe I'm too old to fuck this hot body. I. Fuck this fat Dick motherfucker. Thinking I was wills Dick's fine. The process of healing in a much different. Thing. I don't know, but isn't their son like. Weird, non gender binary, some weird fucking Shit! He became that at some point. You Know Karate Kid. Dresses Batman for his prom. Night. I thought he'd just dresses on Tuesday prompted. He showed up a full white Batman sued was awesome. Awesome! No, it wasn't. It wasn't awesome today. It was awesome what? You're about to have your coffer filled to the brim with money. Your problem is awesome, awesome Dan. That's bad call. National Batman Suit Batman now. That's how bad it is the chesapeake. That's pretty bad. Out that's Batman. COMECON comical fingerless gloves J. You can't be against the. Dressing up as Batman to your prom, and COMECON have to complete. I think it's still pretty I think it was back to gate. It's not as bad as going to the. Shooting bumble because at COMECON. He transformed from we all. Assume. Three Fifty Hemi engine and I thought it was prom I thought for sure is romance. I think it was caught. On Kim, and which is even he was invited to comic. Con also addresses that I guess. He hid COMECON after Kim and companies wedding. Yeah, because it was on the way home. Yeah, I'm trying to trying to get to friend of this to tell US show at one point goes may change of plans swinging by COMECON. Entirely the Creator also says like they call each other boyfriend. But that again could be Becca Eric Andre Type. Ranks. On stage like I don't care, who knows it love him. Play the video. be saying he did everything. We could to get away from each other only to realize that that wasn't possible, so. We did everything. We could fucking twenty year old, so we're ready to put it as we're. Getting. It was impossible to get away from you. PUT, a safe vault door on our bedroom and you got in somehow. I swear to God you. Someone that can cock movie broke rescue that steal you hire jet lead come through the vents. Open. And I said this motherfucker bottomless money. The video, please. Jada position right now so you know you. During that time Jay position bent over getting Platt up some rb que-. I'm Jay position knees behind the ears for some neck Tattoo Rican. In? August, what do you feel like? You were looking for. Angry and you're trying to get your thoughts together to say words, but he's he's doing right. Now I'm GonNA fucking kill you. It goes. So what would you say you were looking at the moment was. When I saw that light skinned it Dick. Dean him? But he's doing this thing where he's furious, but he won't go full Lewis. Mel Gibson. He's trying so he's doing this thing where he's like. You had an entanglement. Let's call it what it really was interaction. Lewis and you're like what what does better. You feel like you had entanglement. You Got fucked by twenty two year. Old is what you're trying to say their sons, but he won't. Problem that they fucking took time apart and fuck people who cares that's what it. Why are they fucking laying off the public? fucking bizarre people and. Part of it is not that they separated and she folks someone else. The weirdest part is that she thought their son's friend. That's like the weird thing it's like. If you'RE GONNA come to this magical red table then fucking. Bring that up, bobby. Can you also have little Wayne Talking to the guy? Is Pretty Hilarious. It's infuriating I mean well. 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Alsina is her birthday month I wonder if it came out and they were like. Don't address it like those ship. Who why? You don't even if you don't want the garbage truck reminds me go by your Irish fear for president. Is this shirt available and? We made it a remember to be happy. one of the chief Colorado. Website. Yeah BLEEP THAT OUT I co! Editor that's that's not free speech. Editing we are. Right. In fairness tonight's seat. Can I tell you I? All my stuff. Shirts available. It's crystal last time it happened. Now. Our EP fucking. No, I know. Absolutely we're GONNA hoodie under a Jersey. Insecure answer no sleeves on it. It's too short. Sleeves on the Hoodie. It means you cut the off. All right that is we are under jersey, but I had a separate point. I will say that I know a central. Plank of my campaign has been making Lewis Angry and how funny that'll be, but I gotta tell. You are making Louis so angry. I'm worried about an Irish. If you're a president I, think Lewis might quit the show. He's president. Then the whole thing falls apart. Let's. Let's make Lewis reasonably angry if the VICENNIUM SMITH PRESIDENCY? Ari Arias, successful podcast without Lewis for quite some time, so maybe quits, there's always. Make this very clear. I will never quit the Legion of skanks. Spent a really dumb guarantees. That's really dumb. Guaranteed to make what you might be the president. I love. I love this country whether on the leader of it or not, and I would say five. Of the United States of America. I will kill myself. On Your fans own trash truck, trash, trucks, trash, truck, trash, truck, trash, truck, trash, truck, trash truck. You gotta get really creative when you're podcasting outside. Just among nature. This! By the way all this shit dude the ship publicly for no reason that's that's the reason. They're the two of them are like the world knows he was. One of my sons, friends, I didn't and they go. How can we capitalize at? How can we make our next movie? A bigger deal by putting out a video of US talking about this? They have no shame. They're the worst people on the fucking plan. act like a fuck up to will smith is a Philadelphia legends. Yeah? He's Philly Guy. He's a West Philadelphia legend born and raised. Yeah, and he didn't even make it that far before you knew what he was in Belair. Pussy in the school part in. One little fight. You don't WanNa. Find any ran fucking beverly hills with a fruit. You're right. Most moms would have been like. Get out there and fight that guy that fight him. You Pussy! Cat saw him outs-. What he's doing fight got beat up at the basketball. Poll Yeah. Side you fucking home. Your Becker. I'M GONNA. Kick your fucking. Don't tell you to go to belair duty to drop down a weight class. Just show up and fuck it. Rich kids start punking. Yeah, yeah, he was the coolest around white people. The. The Black Guy who ran from Philadelphia from one little fight yet, they're all like. You're. So like so cool if you heard of hip hop, I've heard of IT Russia. In one little fight and you went across the country. Fuck is wrong. Even the guys who beat up do we weren't that serious? It's a fight. It was a little fight he was. GonNa give it back the next day. Got Shot like four days. With the fight scene in the opening, he literally got picked up a chocolate. Airplane Spin. You've got rockies three. He the audience. Phone ride. Five your. Little play because he spun me, I went home so. You're been rollers and you look. You can catch. Jokes, like this and back and forth on the. We were just a part of that you can't. Bonfire bit now. I conceptualize it named the funny part spitting you cock. Suckers felt a fucking Louisville that fuck you. Bitch felt which they felt would both lose? They felt which camera. Both each. Other, Death It didn't. That'd be that'd be kind of cool. It didn't help Lewis's point that the guy he pointed out had the same name as him. Out of a Louis. Suck all. Lewis said that we blew an eyelash, and that's what fucking the. US kill both lose on the bonfire. Semi. killed. Forty eight hundred. Pearl, jam, Cassette, tape and black license. You can catch jokes like that. Five forty legions right now as you watch it yeah now. Who did the lack of love for leisure. Jason? Show Dude. It's it's actually great. I'm glad Jason. Because at you aren't out you this why? He should not be president of this show because I dominate. The audience combined. It's A. It's actually sad. The levels which Jay and Lewis has been has. Had to describe it in one word. You. Want I should never. Be the end of this. He thought they were saying Dave Dave. Dave, anybody heard was. Okay I There were a few days in their. Gay kind of took over at the end. Dave I'm A. I'm having a five hundred dollar dinner that I. Think you would be great to speak at. Visit your love to talk to you off podcast. Policy Proposals and listen. You have a super PAC. You're not committed to stall. I! Got One little t shirt printed Dan. You've got tons of money from what I hear billions day now. I. Even store I'm sure we can find something where the campaign and the Smith campaign can align. Listen I'm over. I think he's being Ari. I think at this point Ed. Loyalty pay for by the. Thank he's breaking up the show. I'll tell you. I WANNA. Keep the show together. That's what I WANNA do is make. Again. I think it's clear at this point that neither Jay nor Lewis can be the president because they're getting too competitive and dirty, and frankly and I say gay about this whole thing, can i. Not taking this seriously. Saying that he wants to make skanks funny again, I'll tell you right now. I love the show I think. It's the funniest fucking. Gay Interjection you're right, Dave. Dave Dave. Dave Ramsey. At. Funniest podcast on the planet. Hey let me say. Right now was. Really you're the most beautiful Omaha. Audrey of you your face. Hertie, but together we are gorgeous. Listen I agree with Louis I think this is the funniest podcast in the world. What I'm saying is that we don't win anymore. We're not funny like we once were, and I think if the people. Five or six one right now where we would crushing it since I've been running for President, point is. That might not be part of. That might not be far from the truth. Finally Dave's motivated, and why is they? Gave me the idea to get. The. First Time I've enjoyed three straight. Talk. One Board about Dan Soda. With all love, he's very susceptible. Very susceptible. Cooking. All came out. Your week us. Show. Protect him from. exchanged. Dead as we then we'll. Talk. Shit right. I'm saying I'm watching David. I'm watching Dan. I'm watching daily. Reminder interrupting me I'm watching. Listening. Dave, sank. Loyalty Already Watch your back. Dave's polling day. James. Right now the. Guys on the shirt. Super guys. PODCAST I'm. On fire because he thinks you can push, he can push around. You'll just do silly voices radio show wherever. It's a podcast on. Serious listen. Dave I want to let you know. I've made certain actions that have stopped me from feeling anything towards this. It's all business decisions now I understand. That's why with our fear, so I understand some things you know, listen I understand. You're not treating this personal. It's just business, but as a business matter when your feelings get hurt like that, you got to address. Her because you just call them week in front of the millions of people who watch watching him be susceptible to your bullshit. You're lowering, and then you're watching you. And I watching dance there you. Can't believe you're so good at this. Back to. Ask. You want to get out of here and start a forty. I'm open to talking about it. Let me ask you. Do you feel like you were being susceptible to my bullshit? Feel like we were having a conversation amongst friends he's. Wearing you? People ever met in my entire life. I. Do you need a super? Back Crack Damn supporting everyone except Jake. Listen I. Think other hold on. I just looked at this woman I thought she was going. She was yawning. Through blown away by the. Political Intrigue Who's actually on my. Show sweet, cool ninety one degrees. Nine. She goes I like it aggressive podcast on an Alabama Summer Night I. WANNA point out. Jj, time this show, J! Just check the. Dow You. Take the temperature the temperature on the front of this. My phone. Let me. Let me, see your phone. Are you broke your temperature on? That bullshit with temperature jerk off! Don't you want your? Temperature. Is it ninety one degrees I think it's five minutes left. Start Mocking Jay's nocturnal Sundial. We have twenty three more minutes. and. I'll give you twenty bucks right now. I play my standup. He's got that disposable cash. You can't just take. Dating girl was Kelly. People for years you know at some point. Break up eight months. Hope that money. You just know at some. Point their pattern, so pete called me one day. Oh, I could have gone for a little bit more of some standard I. wanted it lose a punchline. Guys check it out anytime you want. Double negative on Netflix. It's really cool. Roy, Wood's to have you on the show. Hey Hey. Hey, Hey! Fire. Houston sears all funding for twitter. You. You. That's not the rhythm of the. Not Don't. Talk You. Few. Louis y'all. Do. Do y'all you. Tell you. What just? Go Book. You stocking shelf what? Do y'all. Give new as y'all. Chant like you would hurt a chant wants. Everybody already knows it watch fuck. y'All. Louis. You. Do y'all. If nothing else? Jay is great at bowling over when he just serves to. Fuck in. That couldn't possibly be chant. To pull that off anyway. You can pull that up. The tuner I was kidding. Kidding Morgan Song you see I. Put him through. Will Never Forget it. Louis Yo. Fuck you, Lou is. Louis y'all. Come on. Lewis. I'll say the recovery alone is worth some support. At least there's the way he wiggled out. You guys catch wiggling like that four days. A week on the fire comes radio series. By. Financier the Dan soder super. Finance here. Guys only fifteen minutes. What are we doing? We've watched forty seconds of Wilson I. Want you to see Wayne though to and I want you to. It's we're not going to get to any of this. Of course will well. Let's play a second of this. No play play more well. At least for more than thirty seconds, how much have we actually played minutes by the way, not play minutes two minutes. No, not. What are we by the amount of seconds Gimme? Played a minute plus. It. We've been doing this for an hour. We've been doing this since before. Hand on the show when he came on, we went. Hey, let's catch you up to where we are. Check to get art. It was forty five minutes before we all knew the song fuck you. Louis Yaw. On. That into one dollars. I will then Mo twenty dollars to whoever can send me that song. SUPERPAC months or your money your. That's a sort of super PAC. Fear President, that's. SORTA SUPERPAC. Lewis! Fuck you. saw. Good. Oh Man, I think he's got a campaign. Together like one of those Youtube Lights. President. If elected on inauguration day I will have a full brass bands singing. Fuck you, Louis y'all. Prime elected president. I will call invigoration. I will I swear to God I will fuck you. You Louis Ed's. Crew is singing dude behind masks. You can just tell from their eyes, yeah. Got To. Be Their teeth that tonight. Only. Over. Video. Wanted to feel good talk. That's monster asked Shit Year that Halle. Berry says Mosser. Person Different personnel. Wow I just wanted to say good is how everyone who's ever had sex has ever felt. To your. Person I'm an. Will Smith. Jada Pinkett Smith money I could never be sad like I could just. Ear to ear smile dude more literally as Louis. You would still be almost getting in fistfights with your private chauffeur I. Promise You. I said left all my. Chauffeur! Tape. He goes missing Mr Lewis I was. A. Charles Maybe fucking going. That was part of Sa. Partition tissues fuck you Louis y'all. Lewis? By knock them down. For a week for his. Life! Man. That thing isn't working like it was the first children now. The jokes now's not working is fucking chilling for a while. Now trying to get it back by underplaying fuck you. Louis, y'all got. s to nod like Oh. Did you feel? When you were fucking our child's friend. I had no idea how eat. My Pussy was until I met this motherfucker. When I come I scream higher the normal. For the first time ever dog came running inch. by the way his face, really whenever the? Paul's anytime face. fucking bitch. Look at you. You love that motherfucking. She's got a permanent. That's what I had about our fucking country. Will Smith. However you feel about him. 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I been fucking. FUCKING SKELLY Lewis did I. Don't want you to freak out. Be Interested in. Max. Pushed, your shit his pants. He's going to be fifteen minutes. He's live streaming with my call to you could finish on. Your Dad's pants and Talk you lose. A I wasn't here. This wouldn't exist what I know I know. It's got around my vice president. It would be pretty weird if you weren't here and did exist. It just. Who the fuck are you talking about? Lewis is at home with his son. We're like. Louis is like aw. anyways James I love you very much. Can you guys imagine if Lewis was here? He'd probably be like. Allow. A really mean. Louis Sad. Thing is. When you? Put more of an Uber Boga to it, but. You got to be careful because we make too sad. He turns away from the Hulk. Yeah, you're always gonna be either jovial or violently angry. Yet, that's where you shine I kind of enjoy when you're homosexually aroused. Fun I did a twitter poll recently I ask. What your favorite Lewis's. Were like. 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#401: The 2020 State of the Union part 1 (w/ Dave Smith)

Ari Shaffir's Skeptic Tank

3:17:51 hr | 2 months ago

#401: The 2020 State of the Union part 1 (w/ Dave Smith)

"This country has made you humongous success and then to get on here and who are you talking to you talking to some white guy who's like a trucker who makes? About Him I. Know You may not like what I'm saying because you're just this person I'm black woman so and it's like man fuck you like fuck you and fuck your husband for fucking destroying Syria Libya and Yemen tell me about the kids and focus. At. The fucking facilities he built. In. Four. Year old. Ashley. Robot I. Welcome to Orange Appears skeptic tank. A great one. This is one that people look forward to every year. Twenty twenty. State of the Union address. Not. Always felt the two, thousand, twenty, eight of the dress generally renaming after the year this year like no other. Is Twenty. Twenty. So Dave. David. By now common name for Jews and roof you know any. If. You don't know any Jews school upset that's totally fine. You probably didn't come across or maybe you came across when we just didn't know you can blending in. Hiding. Places. Small. Addict spaces crawlspaces. We had a crawlspace when I was growing up like it's not like a basement interest crawlspace. It's like. Downstairs, but it's just like I don't know you know what I mean it's like behind. It's where Jews hide is what I'm trying to say that's the only way to describe it. It's weird. Jewett height. And that was the whole joke. One time I was in Vietnam tiny town. And I was in a bus I joined up with a tour. Wasn't with him and showed up but I was there I wanted to go to this. There was just like. I. Guess Like Floating Floating Force they called it was just like a force in the inner rivers pretty cool. I'll say the name. Like, say names of places but like No. One's going to show doc. Took me I mean twelve hours they got there from coachman. You're not going to dock and you shouldn't. But I was talking to these two German girls and these two I think Canadian or German guys. I, forget now and they were talking about some guy that was weird. Somebody's son kept. Naming, all the states in America and then he was like talking about every time I saw fire just different types of fire engines and he goes I was just weird and then the German goes like well, he was and he goes oh well, I've never never met not person before and we're all like. Yes, you have. Didn't know. Haven't met not their everywhere. good times. Today Dave Smith comes and talks to us about. Really America we've been doing this two, thousand thirteen I found out. I asked him about it every year. We. Go over. Generally Dave is a libertarian which I sort of an eye on. A bleeding heart libertarian. If you had to like name a party I, call it the get off me party. Leave me the fuck alone. Let me do my business. I'm not bothering anybody. So nobody's you bother me. I'm a Kinda guy who's like, why can't I set up solar power in my in my home that I own. Laws. Fuck off. It's my home. Why can't I? Fucking I WANNA put a rainwater collector up there like while you off until the proper, you pay the taxes on the thing on your oven from the proper verification shut off. It's mine. I want to build a fucking waterslide around my house while I gotta get you involved Sam. Anyway the point is he came on to talk about America generally we have one or two things to talk about, and then also in election years has twenty sixteen was now twenty twenty extra stuff to talk about but this here. We've got a few more things to talk about what a year it's been. I read it seems like a lifetime already doesn't it? It. Is, fucking nuts out there. You guys I I'm just I was walking here new. York's five. They call it a war zone of the press. Do not believe that. But. They have these outdoor seating areas. And Mexicans. I, think it's maybe it's being raised. It might be Dominicans I. Don't know I. Don't know the New York Latino the hard worker. Set up where the park cars are. They said of these little. Would built enclosures they set up tables in there in between the sidewalk. And with the cars drive. Past this dude and he's fucking pissing on his girlfriend who some drunk girlfriends go off, make sure nobody's coming and you start down to the fucking pencils. Okay. Do Come on go to the park is right next to the park. And he goes I, wasn't doing fucking neighborhood dude? fucking human. He goes. All right relaxed. I was joking and I'm like. Let's break I'm not sure you were joking and if it was then I'm the fool. Girlfriend would have had been in on it to say a look. Go ahead, I'll look. Because otherwise. WHO'S THE JOKE for? She saying look and then you're pretending knew about to do but not do it or. Other possibility you're fucking animal you're fucking drunk animal drunks. It's just you fucking you few fucking drunks who give all the alcoholics about name handle your shit. Handle your drugs. That's my one message to everyone in the world. Don't do drugs handle your drugs. Do it responsibly, and by responsibly I, mean don't bearish yourself. Getting, sidetracked because his episodes not about that, and it's a fucking long episode. But for real okay. Do Mushrooms. You don't have to tell everybody by the way you know to make it a big fucking deal. Go to the bathroom much monchy come on back. Want. To go do coke go to the bathroom. You guys actually coke heads way ahead of the game. You're never like. You just you go to the bathroom comeback make a few many trips. I mean, why don't you? While you're in the bathroom take a longer nail they all have. Okay. Here's decent compact that shit in there. In one nail and then later in the evening, you know when you're when you're coke wears off and what is it twenty minutes and you like instead of going back to school pick my nose. The book. The book. Oh. Yes. You know what I mean figured coke heads. I don't want to do business. You're way ahead of me. So. Dave. Is a libertarian which means he's not Republicans. He's not Democrats. So on the politics side, he's able to stay. Even, keeled isn't. Like one group of he does live in a liberal bubble of new. York. Oh now he's moved outside New York. So he lives in a less liberal bubble I found two. There's a new party like it's a it's a it's like a third and fourth party where it's like. Liberals and conservatives, but they hate like the overboard liberals and conservatives. So they to their anti liberal liberals and anti-conservative Conservatives. Still formulating this idea? Point is that guy should have gone across the street and pissing the park? I think we can all agree on that. I said, we should start the episode in a second. I don't know if there's anything else. I gotTa Tell You would follow day Smith. He's got his own podcast called part of the problem. We discuss politics all the time. I'm going to tell you. You should usual legion all the time he recently lost an election. For president allegiance gang someone else won. It was me and. Follow. THEM ON A. I don't honestly don't follow him on twitter at. Comic Dave Smith don't get off twitter. You guys it's been. It. The viruses in their get off twitter it's a horrible place. And you'd be like Oh you're on there. I'm not I got off in like. June July. Fuck it. Every part of me is well, I built a five hundred, thousand followers I should like cash that or. Nah. It's just gross. So get off twitter he's on there are comedies with I don't know how much is on there, but I would tell everybody listens get off there it's filling with A. Horrible negatively. So here's the deal with this week's this year's. Part of the problem the here's. State of the Union address twenty. Twenty. Too Much Shit happened. Too Much fucking. Shit. Happened you guys. So, what are we supposed to do? We did three hours I'm letting. You know right now we did three fucking hours on this. and. We didn't get anything. No. No. I wouldn't say we didn't get anything. We covered some stuff look at my notes. We covered some stuff. COVID. What he thinks to respond should have been some black lives matter stuff. And a little bit of like the media, and then we just ran out of time it was three hours we had to go to the Legion skanks. So we're like, should we go and take this Zumra quarter that I draw got a new one? fucking everything. It's extra costs. Extra costs extra cost. Joe. Patriarch by the way everybody. Patriotic Dot Com Slash Ari Shapiro. or Patriot Dot com slash skeptic tank otherwise pointed the same place. The point is join up five dollars give a travel blogs. once a month or so And I. Do I mean audio travel blocks I call him plugs. He's a picture and I talked about where that picture was taken. dating sex funded vice what else do on there? I don't know Oh, I know a mail bag. I dream about questions and then arrest stories. A bunch of different podcasts on their Pedro dot com slash schedule. 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Dot Com which means I have to go update website right now. So. We got through a bunch of it, and then I was like Dave we didn't get to politics yet. We didn't get to about three hours. We didn't politics we didn't get to what else we got how divided we are as a country. Biden. Trump. State of the media we didn't really get to. What's going to happen with the fucking Ruth Bader GINSBURG. Cancer Culture Cunanan. Age I mean we got we have a lot left to get to and we didn't get to it. So we're like, let's walk lead gangs and do it while we hold two mikes but then we're like to actually. Talk this isn't good enough, and so we're GONNA do a two part of this year too much shit happened. We waited till Biden pictures. We've talked about this a month ago. Let's wait till Biden fixes running mate. So we can talk about their election in full, and then a of should happen in that time. More to talk about. So it's a two parter this year you guys. took takes me extra hours of work. The. 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Was a good guy because he gets the job. I. Love It. you guys. Let's start our that was a 401 the state of the Union dressed part one, twenty, twenty with Dave Smith. Starts. No. Out. Title. We're doing. We're here. Hello, everybody Hello David Ellison Sorry. Sorry not going to be taken seriously about. Whatever comes next to you. Tonight. Yeah. Sure I guess. It isn't weird when you don't forget it. Hachette. In. The, stretch. Yeah. It's like when you go to shake someone's hand or something like that and you're like, but you have to understand for all of human history, I'm being the normal one but I guess not now can you imagine the first time like a cough proven to cause a cold and before that you like? Hey how you doing nice to meet you. Today. Do we don't. We don't really uncomfortable handshake cans anymore like. The sniffles and stuff. Let associated with cough said, you probably didn't get the information for long time you got. That's the clouds. Yeah. Now now we're off that one. Now they're saying they're saying it's like a cough now. Hoax. Kingdom Bhutto's. That's fake news. Things we're always the same the always. is so how are we done? I believe? We've done since two, thousand, thirteen, thirteen, fourteen really I think. So I might be wrong about that but I think so wow, I'm gonNA turn your mic up a little just because. Sure Well I talked soft but then I might get agitated at one point and start screaming. So who knows? two, thousand, thirteen, I think you might be right. It was right after I moved here ready right yet. Two doesn't twelve. Yeah. It was you at your old old place, which one. Way upstairs. I don't remember but it wasn't the fucking. It was the place. De Yeah I. Remember there was like. fucking living room and the bedroom off of that. But no yard it wasn't. It wasn't whatever the places before you live to the Twelfth Street. One. Living, victim yeah yeah that one I guess that wasn't a great description of an apartment. The other two plays that. Well, it was one of those. Well, this year will be different because now I mean, obviously, if you guys don't set it up in intro that'll do later but This year is different than most years because now we both have. Some experience running for office. So that's how this year is different. This year. Difference. Then yeah. You're right. We both have some experience. Yeah. I myself has served in public office now through an I in in true libertarian form came in third place. So that is a we've all done exactly. What was expected how? Still, that you didn't come in fourth. Oh. Yeah. No I'm pleased. Pleased about that for sure. I rapped over challenger was like a real like workout Mike I, just WanNa come in last. Yeah. That makes sense. Something about last. Oh, Jay was borderline suicidal. Yeah absolutely I think he's recovered though so I I mean, let's just start because like we have limited time because we could go probably six seven hours. Yeah I. Missed this year and like you said before we've we've been doing these since whatever two, thousand, thirteen or something like that, and this was the first one. where I almost felt like a weird pressure like doing it like when you when you were like. texting me like, okay we gotta do this now like Oh shit. Well, this is a fucking year like I got a fucking if I'm GONNA break down this year I got a really fucking like think through exactly what I want to say about it because this was a year that was I mean it's it's by far the biggest year for our nation that I in my lifetime maybe not years you're very old you around for Pearl Harbor was a big year I'm like ten months older than you. You'd have in my lifetime. You'd really have I mean two, thousand, one with nine eleven. The Financial Recession financial you know fucking meltdown really none of that compares to what this year was. This is something completely different. So fucking crazy this year is right that for the third time in American history. Of. The sitting president was impeached and I bet that's not even on your mind. There was no one to talk legitimacy mind a huge fucking thing and that's not even like. I mean technically was impeached. Articles were filed in December of last year but that was going on this year and that's not even like a thought of the one of the things to cup of what we're doing. No not even I honestly forgot about that. Yeah because it was it seems such a nothing impeachment like. Going anywhere. So why are we doing this for gesture? It was utterly ridiculous and there are I mean from my perspective is a lot of things you could try to impeach trump for but to say, it's not even like they had him on the quid pro quo or that's what they would say like which basically just means something for something which politicians do. A scratch my back. I'll scratch yours. Yeah. Of course I mean that's what politics but that's any any country we give foreign aid to strings attached. But what they were saying was that while he wasn't just doing something on behalf of the country. He was trying to get something for himself personally, but the problem with that is that will number one. You could pretty easily argue that he was doing it for the country. What was the thing is trying to get them to investigate Joe Biden and his son, his Tom. But if the former vice president and his son were guilty of something, you could certainly argue that that's not just for. Trump that's also for the country. But besides that the real problem was that he never made the deal. So they had him on attempting to make a deal that then you'd have to argue was in his interest, it was all the whole Ukraine gate thing was just complete fucking bullshit semen that happened. It came right off the heels of Russia Gate and then there was like a we really. Look I. Don't know as much as you like it seemed like we got something. We've got some agom and then the last few months was like, Hey, I think we got absolutely nothing If they did anything it was on their own kind of like try to nine eleven on Bush, and then like it wasn't Bush like still have been instead of like. It wasn't by Bush and like. All right. So that just dropped maybe Russia. But it wasn't like they did some deal in a garage or anything, and then as soon as I dropped like how about this? Maybe we're GONNA for this and it was like you guys just seem like you WanNa. Seems like you just WanNa, get him for something at this point and I mean we we talk last year a lot about the Russia gate thing. And so I I'd say listen to that for for like my take on that that whole thing it's fucking bullshit. It was all a setup. It was it was you know like at this point all the information's out if you care to look into it like that whole thing was bullshit. And the Ukraine thing was just like a desperate stretch and the truth is that most people like at a situation where okay. The when Joe Biden Vice President he was basically in charge of the Ukrainian policy that the that was one of the things Obama put him on and his fucking kid is working for this huge fucking energy company in Ukraine getting paid like I forget what it was three hundred k. a month some ridiculous fucking thing and you're like. Really the guy doesn't even speak the language, he has no experience in the energy sector. This is so obviously can. Attempt to buy access it almost like if you just randomly get a judge in case and he's like Oh actually, I went to school with your with your uncle. So I can't be part of this case right so like even if he got the job by himself like, Hey, I can't do it anymore because dad just got this So Dad you either stop or I honest but it looks too bad even. If it was on the level which there's no way now truthfully speaking, you know trump probably committed like a faux pas in the fact that he asked this guy to investigate the Biden Iran they are really supposed to do that. But for it to be like, no president ever has been impeached and removed from office really never happened in the country and to say, you're going to do that to this guy for this. Crime when like I, mean the crimes that presidents have committed throughout the history of this country are like I mean just the last three you know like Bush instituted torture and lied us into wars and Obama spa built a spying apparatus to spy on every American citizen hit trump's continued all of these volcanoes and it's like this. This is the thing that you're going to try to do this over it seems like Impeachment. So in in South Korea they protested every day for I think like hundreds of days against their leader who is taking spiritual advice from from like a guru and letting that dictatorship policy She was great for a little bit and then she went Kookaburra cocoa senator was like and it was like we got rid of her they rain shine. They never saw protesting until eventually get her out of office. But it wasn't so much like you do this illegal thing it was just like, Hey, you're you're doing a bad job and we want you gone and we don't wait three years com. We've all decided with hate the job you're doing a vote of no-confidence whatever it is but it's like that seems like that's what impeachments should be and we have it as like you got to break one of these specific rules. Yeah. Right. Come on. Stop. Ruining Art. Who is it Robert Kelly? He doesn't know any of this of course. Yeah. The fucking. Impeachment process was I. Think it was A. It would have said I think it backfired on the Democrats, but honestly so much happens. Then the nobody cares right a race from the memory. So let's start. Let's start with this because the state of the union not just of politics right and we've been covering some years political election years of two thousand sixteen was probably more I remember I listened back to part of last year's Day because I try to you know make sure I don't say the go over the same exact shit and I said at one point ago. Well, next year we'll have a great one because it's an election year. And that was what I thought. It'd be next year. Obviously, it'll be a big year because it's an election year and again that seems like one of the smaller details of twenty twenty I'll tell you. So I started stand up again you know after months off my. I believe my longest running March People Mitch June. Close, close to my longest break our. And I was like had this thing I talked to my friends about it like what material you guys GonNa do when you get back the old stuff and I'm like, yeah and I get it if you're on the road like. Selling out a show like we just want you entertain us. But like if you're doing a spot where it's not your show Mike, I feel like a fraud if four months later, I still had stuff about holding the subway door open. MIC also there's no subway right now and black lives matters happened. The whole world has gone down under this fucking virus. So it took me like four or five or six cents over like a month, and then now I can do an old joke again. Sure. Yeah. So so much has happened. Even though black lives matter is not like. This year actually started years before Obama but like it's different, it's different now. Yes. Difference much bigger thing. It was never like mass. Protests riots fucking like it's a whole different level but I guess we should start with the fucking because Kobe, that's the. What changed everything was this year in fucking I mean January and February were somewhat normal months. In? Hindsight People like worst you're ever. It's like they keep saying that I'm a look the negative and everything because like most years look back like it was great. Well, look I mean. Well. Yeah. Well, it it gives you some perspective, right like it. It's amazing. How much like two thousand nineteen to me felt like, oh, this is a crazy fucking year and when we were doing the podcast last year like I was talking about all that shit and it's like, yeah, did this fucking crazy there were accusations at the president committed treason and then they all fell apart. He's found out this happened in any other where you're talking about seem really important. Now, this year, you're like Oh what a simpler, Falcon time. Simpler Falcon time like this. This is different than anything. There's like you know. The country has been profoundly changed and in a way that will not be undone like in the same way like after nine eleven, you know there was like almost this feeling of. Okay. So when do we go back to normal like when do we go back and people were terrified? If you remember right after nine eleven of another nine eleven style attack that was the big fear now that fear goes away none of us are really thinking about another nine eleven style attack. I mean, maybe some people are but the vast majority of us are not living in fear of that. You the fucking Tsa Sheriffs, TSA stay the Department of Homeland Security is here to stay the wars as a responser seemed to be here to stay. So there's it's like, no, we're not going back. Were you when you give the government, a tremendous amount of additional power Milton Friedman said once the there's nothing. So permanent as a temporary government program like if the government takes power, it's very, very hard to roll it back and usually even if you roll it back, it's like they start at zero go to ten role at back to seven but you're still seven higher than you started when you think about it. Let's just say we started these wars to get the Guy Tactless Saban Lot and it took ten years almost. We got him. Okay we're all disbanded. It's like it's like, who's The gladiators? Killed Whoever's now, let's go back to farm life right I'm done with this thing Rambo up time to go back on the road. Yeah, I've done this I'm not gonNa keep government never does that yeah. They go back to for it whenever there's like an emergency situation. They grab new power, and then when people why would you give back? To give it up hold on a little bit I was hoping because now you can drink in the streets and I was like I was talking to my friend from from from England who believes that you just can't. They just won't bother you. So I was like they can't go back to can't change the law back, and then it was pointed out that didn't change the law they stopped at forcing the law. So if they want to change it back, it'd be a hard problem, but it's still illegal to street right? There just like. Got Bigger to worry about. Yeah. So they're not going to give it back. So what we say in terms of like now with that. It's this is. Look like the amount of power that's been seized by the government in the last or since March is unprecedented in America I, mean not to say like. There were you I mean we had slavery in this country at one point and we've had military drafts, and so they certainly have violated freedom of groups of people you know in a in a serious way but. TO HAVE AMERICANS WATCHING TV every day to listen to your governor to see if are allowed to go to the park allowed to go to the store allowed to see your friend I mean literally dictating every inch of what you are allowed to do is something that's never happened in modern American history I. Mean there's no there's nothing to compare the closest thing I can remember it for my life is really just like if it's snowing, stay up and watch until like we're off school tomorrow. Yes. Right something like that but was everything and this is This is adults being told what they're allowed to do and to insist that Americans have to give up. Everything I mean like that. It's like, no, you are. You are not allowed to go. To your wife's Sonogram, you're not allowed to go to your father's funeral. You're not allowed I mean like things that are like really profound will important in people's lives. Oh. Yeah. That's that's that's the doing zoom. Say Goodbyes people are really I mean obviously very extenuating circumstances shore well, yes I agree but I would say that one of the things that. Really, find to be like a troubling. Aspect all this is that even so even with Really like the Constitution's dead and nobody fucking follows the Constitution and There's always point to go guess who's everything right like nothing if the if we enforce the constitution probably about eighty to ninety percent of what the government does the about food. When I write have those people in the League should be in jail you. You'd like doing illegal stuff. Yeah. Graffiti For All the time I paint over ads. Deal I do draw what do you talk what do you? What do you mean big is what I care about yes it is a different law. But so right. But so there's that right and you could certainly make a strong argument that like the wars are unconstitutional that Obama's spying was unconstitutional and stuff, but they almost always at least try to use some rationale like they have some. Well, here's why using the con- Congress never declared the war in Iraq and they go. Yeah. But they did battle write a letter of authorization or or right they'll say things like they'll be like. Well, this was this wasn't a war. This was a military activity or so they but with this which was. Just. Clearly. Constitutional I mean you don't have to be a constitutional scholar to be like well, obviously, the government can't do this I mean literally read the First Amendment and then tell me how the government has a right to close down a church like the you clearly don't have and they didn't even attempt to justify it like it wasn't even like they were just like well, whatever were scared and we want to stop this virus and the you know there was one as governor Murphy, the Governor of New Jersey he was on Tucker Carlson show. One of the only times the height of all this believe it was April might have been in May it was, but it was at the height of lockdowns and it was like one of the only times you know you see the governor's on TV all the time it was one of the only time someone gave him like a a tough interview and he said to him basically this like what I just brought up he goes will wear do you like get the authority to tell someone that they can't go to church because there was an instance of like some people have been arrested for going to Church That he goes. Well, how can you arrest someone? I, mean, look here's the first amendment. How can you arrest someone for practicing their religion? This clearly violates the bill of rights and Governor Murphy's response was we weren't thinking about the bill of rights when we did this, that's above my pay grade I'm listening to the doctors and okay. Even if you completely believe that this was the right thing to do for the virus like even if that's your argument, which is debatable but if that's what you believe. Okay. But don't you still. Like like follow protocols virus, right that was going to kill a hundred million Americans. And the only way to stop it was to institute martial law. Example. Wouldn't you? Still even if you think it's the right thing to do in the circumstance be like, yeah that's a real danger. That's a real danger that we just gave the government the authority to say at, you know what? Screw the bill of rights because I say, this is this is worse lake the I'm just saying. This because I try to do this every year on the state of the Union obviously like I I always say like at the beginning on radical fucking libertarian. That's my perspective on these things and I say half to kind of give you where I'm coming from. But also to just be honest about my bias like I certainly have a bias and all of this but I think that is some fucking really I would say it's a bit so you. Explain it to be well, once where like if I'm not infringing on your rights that I can do pretty much whatever I want you know, and so then some some like inbetween rules are, can I throw a party in my apartment like yeah sure. That's fine. But some upstairs. So you are kind of infringing on on on their ability to whatever you know. This Is, not just like. It feels less like you gotta wear seatbelts and more like you can't drive drunk right so right so there are gray areas where you might say like, okay, it's debatable whether or not you're infringing on someone else's right. So like if you fucking have Cova Ed and you're like, well, I'm just going out to Vulcan party you know like. Or unknowingly is that infringing on their rights like okay there's there's some debate there. But truthfully, if you if you were to follow that too, it's ultimately logical conclusion than any danger. Well, I mean, the flu kills folk and people get so so does that justify now taking away all freedoms from people every flu season and don't I know you're not allowed to compare covid to the fucking flu or? Like a trigger for people, I'm just saying like as a logical. Extreme examples to say like okay. So we're so obviously there's gotta be some reasonable line drawn and like Kobe is bad. It's a fucking really nasty virus. We're it's probably three times worse than the flu you know what I mean, but it's like. It's still like to say, okay, we can shut all of this down over the virus is a dangerous game and. I think I think some of it seeking it's not really clear. What was clear from what happened from March on that this was a fucking novel virus that really nobody was an expert in and we're trying to figure out they were trying to figure it out and they made horrible mistakes and we'll all world. The whole world was doing it. Oh, you're seeing bodies pile up in Italy and you're hold on we got to do something because we take forever in bureaucracy there's a good chance of going to be right where they're at but one of the things that was really creepy to me going back to mark learning more later something else in the moment we like what are we going to do here? Sure an honest mistakes are made. And lots were. But it one of the things that was really creepy in March was how quickly it all happened like how quickly Americans in crazy would give up this this whole thing and just go ok well, we're scared you told us to be scared let's fucking do whatever you tell us to do and I guess to be fair to Americans they were they were also lied into this like they kind of got conned into this whole thing what what we were all told was need fifteen days to flatten the curve. So the argument that started this really reminds me of the really was it was a different thing early on like flat in the curb so that the hospitals won't get. It. So if you get to a car accident, we have a bed for you. Right? That was the whole justification. It. Wasn't it was this was just to me. It reminded me so much of the war in Iraq where they went the guy's got fucking nuclear weapons and he's working with al Qaeda. So do you WanNa? Do you got a guy who's got weapons of mass destruction? He can hand them off to al Qaeda, and then instead of nine eleven we're looking at a fucking nuke over here and no one really asked a lot of follow up questions because that was so absurd and like any everyone who knew this was bullshit but like we were so scared of that that it was like, okay. Well, we'll give you a blank check to go to war well. Shortly after that, it was like this is about building a democracy for Iraq but we're already there we're already in war now. So there's really no lights to do it. This is like that too. I was told recently where Mike Anna do shows inside and the like. When did you make that decision like I guess when it was way worse? Yeah. So they get. Like a just a little bit and we Kinda, stop at flat in the curb was a real thing. This is the same thing of preying on people's idea of safety the same as it insurance cost so much 'cause you're lecture health what are you GonNa do not pay and you're going die yeah. That's definitely part of it I mean but like you they said. This was all about. Going like this and we had we had to go like that and we couldn't overwhelm the hospital system we need to. Fear was that right that we would overwhelm the hospital system and that people respirators saying we don't have enough respirators and now it's actually we don't use any respirators. Take all of this wall but he got you got you got to forgive him for that. Well, they're flying blind like I don't know the rest. Their respiratory system is failing respirator I dunno everyone the world got wrong. Respirators were done intentionally to fuck doctors are trying to help their patients and then a whole bunch Dr started realizing it was hurting their. Patients I'm not like casting judgement on the doctors that I'm just saying the fact of the matter is that the hospitals were never overwhelm anywhere and when I say that there's nowhere in the United States really that they ever reached one hundred percent capacity there's never happened and it was in the vast majority of the country it never even became close with. Cuomo was on TV going we need what was it sixty thousand ventilators from the federal government and we need the fucking Javid. Senator turned into a hospital. They had this navy ship, your the Central Park Central Park. Central Park. Became a hospital on all of this shit and they never got even close to the forty thousand or sixty thousand whatever it was respirators. We ended up giving away a bunch of the ones that we had because we realized they were killing more people than they were helping and only really extreme cases needed the ventilator the javits center never saw patients and just closed down. fucking back, the Central Park then closed. They never needed any of it. Now, I'm not saying were. Honest people who thought they would need it. I'm just saying that that a miracle Americans were convinced to do this under false pretenses, not that it necessarily intentional but that was the justification and it put it wasn't really false pretenses. It was like, Hey, we're singing projector like this. We gotta shut if it kept going like that we were fucked New York was a fuck city. Yeah, and then it was like now it's one of the best cities for. Absolutely and I don't know what exactly. Well. You know honestly people the streets edible I really think it's debate. What do you think SORTA slowing down? Well, look I mean if you're let me say this if your place is that didn't shut down. and. There's I think there's four states in America that didn't shutdown ever at all Sweden never shutdown Japan never shut down you can go back really good. Well, look I mean I'm just saying Sweden. You can kind of argue this right like Sweden they've basically done a little bit worse than the other then then surrounding countries then Denmark Norway where worse we'll know very beginning. It was like it was like, Hey, they're actually not worse off and then it got like real bad. Well, yeah. No I mean this Japan great at this point they've done worse. But really if you look at the majority of their problem at least half the deaths or in the ballpark of half the deaths and Sweden were in their nursing homes, they have a huge percentage of underwear things get talked. So if you kind of control for that, it's not that much worse than Denmark Norway they're about on par with Italy with England with countries like this, they're not brilliant but I'm just saying for what the shutdowns cost like the drastic costs that are all over the place. This would drive me crazy about people that like it's. So it went from being my point about Sweden's just that if you're going to justify what these shutdowns data I mean you justifying people dying for other reasons, you're justifying depression anxiety going through the roof domestic violence going up. Show, violence against children going up. The also kicking tens of millions of people out of work I mean destroying millions of businesses. You think that Sweden should be like way way way worse like you'd think for these lockdowns to be justified, they'd have to be saving a ton not a country that's on par with England. You know what I'm saying. So what happened was it started as we need fifteen days to flatten the curve and then when the curve got flattened and the hospitals weren't overwhelmed and they transitioned to, we need no new cases we need to defeat the disease. We needed all this shit and this became this goal that. Americans basically went. All right. We'll all stay home for fifteen days will give up life. Is Yeah. We're now like almost two hundred days later and people haven't gotten their focus. It was get used to it and they were like, okay. But we got that see this is the thing I'm not even I don't fucking know but I'm not even suggesting that when they asked for the fifteen days to flatten the curve, all these politicians were like this is our fucking trick to get him but once they got him, they certainly realized Oh. and then a lot of perverse incentives start coming up now all of a sudden. These mayors are governors rather who weren't really national figures fucking big national figures and they're on TV every day and they have all this ungodly power, and now you know they kind of enjoy this power in some way Cuomo right in the fucking book and everyone's doing their thing and so now you just create this weird thing where once you give people a little bit of this, fucking. Ring fucking poisons and so there are people there are human. Governor's sort of governor. It's also some dude. You know named whatever. Mike. Or Bill and that guys like we're talking about me. Yes. Tough. Not to human beings just like everyone else and. That's true too with a lot of these epidemiologists and people like that. WHO. are like. Oh. Look at thirty FAO. She's like this fucking guy. He's the TV epidemiologist like first off. Do you know what? Fuck in most serious fucking doctors think about the TV doctors? The lawyer a billboard on the side of the bus rides interest. Court, fucking my mother and a bunch of her fucking friends. She's a fucking psychoanalyst like and that's like I've known a lot of them go ask them what they think of Dr Phil. Joke to them and he got not that though. He kind of is kind of. Epidemiologists. fucking political figure who and I'm just saying don't think there wasn't any part of him that God off on going from being some random nobody to being V dude who everybody's listening to and the other thing about it is just that they fucking. All of the experts and this I don't blame them for because it's a novel virus. So fucking novel virus you know, but they all got it. Wrong they all got every. Novel virus me it's new new virus people don't know how this like fucking responds. They're basing it based off like okay. Well, here's the data we have so far, and here's how other viruses in the Corona Virus Family Act. So maybe it'll act this way or this way, and they have very little information they fucking no but they were out there the world. Health. Organization fucking was I if they were commending China at the beginning for the fucking job China's pockets. Hundred percent art descending with SARS right where they. Lowered it was SARS was the other one swine flu. There's one of them where they were like they hit for a bit. Because China told the Hyder. For a bit and then the and thank God it didn't spread that much spread a little bit. But then this was sort of the same thing. Well, I, just don't hurt tourist well, and again I'm a fucking you know I'm like a radical libertarian anarchists who hates government. So that's my bias just put out there. So I do look at things through A. Lens I don't I'm not claiming to be like some objective fucking journalist or something, which is a fucking who has a belief system but you look around and it's like the failures of governments and all of the global governance. was like just fucking astounding I mean like so you have the Chinese fucking government which they still don't really know the origin of the fucking virus itself and it doesn't look like it was wet markets I don't I don't believe that Shit. Nowhere, in China thinks that was from a lab, well, that's not true I. mean there was a group of fuck in Chinese Veroljub who basically wrote this paper that said it did come from the Wu Han land then Wuhan lab then other people are arguing against that there are some new Chinese. Who was just saying that this was like made by the Chinese military I I. Don't I don't haven't seen enough evidence to like believe that I don't fucking know. But what I do know as a fact is that there were flocking to Chinese doctors who blew the whistle on this ship early and they were silenced by the Chinese government. So the government came in. When this could have been contained a much better way and fucking through chinese-style through them in fucking jail. Then fucking let things spread blocked travel from Wu Han to other parts of the country but allowed travel from Wuhan into fuck in Europe and into America and all this other shit. So fucking like the Chinese government just fucking did this to the world and then you. The fuck. Now, we got to protect our citizens like other citizens. We don't Care Br pretty much. Wow, and then they fucking you know you had like the World Health? Organization complimenting China WHO's fucking paying them. Of course then you had the world health. Organization. And the CDC in the beginning were saying don't use masks by the way don't use masks master no. We wouldn't run out of mass for the people in the hospital I. Mean that's what they're claiming now. Lives people we curtis done that yeah. I mean they were the to NASA. Don't don't hold the end ninety five's like okay. But like you know basically we're anyway they told everyone not to wear something. This was before they fucking mandated that everyone has to and wear masks and the fosbury confusing not to be like we're doing more research or figuring out about massive like don't like. What part of you is hearing that you shouldn't. Yeah. And all types of just misinformation and fucked up thinks so like and and again I'm not like claiming that the information was like all done intentionally or anything like that. I'm just looking at the failure of it. But the stuff about I mean just spending March and April and most of May people being like what you know wipe down your groceries it live on surfaces They're saying it lived on services, but you couldn't catch. You didn't catch it right so they enroll telling me that one of those boats there were like two three weeks later live. Virus particles were in cabins that hadn't been used or something like that. Or even if they have like weeks later, not like five days right and it's like, fuck that's all the pictures like somebody pushes floor for seven elevator someone else It's L L infected ellen sever infected person goes to seven and everyone else on average funny thing is that so they were telling us. A mix of two things that turned out to not be true which was basically not I mean technically, it does live on these services but that you could get sick from it like that and the other thing they were saying there's these super spreaders. There's a symptomatic people who are going around thinking they're healthy spreading it to everyone. Now, all of this turned out to be wrong. But Fair enough to get more data, do more research for you figure these things out. But if that were true, we'd fuck all have it like if that were true, then herd immunity would be the only option and you know what a lot of people are going to die but that's fucking the reality of the situation because if you're telling me, it lives everywhere for fucking weeks and you can just touch. It didn't make sense. You can have no symptoms and spread it around to people then this thing. Was GonNA fucking get everywhere and there's no keeping it at and truthfully speaking you know the part of the reason that they they look at a lot of these different places when people really dispassionately look at the places that lockdown for the places that did lockdown it's not conclusive that locking down made a big difference. But when you really think about it, you're like Oh. Okay. Well, we're not intrude quarantine. Well, that's me nobody nobody lockdown no one's really quarantine that was the thing. No one really liked Fuckin- supermarket. The fucking place, but you need to I mean okay. Right we'll starve to death. So I have I have friends in other countries like literally I trust in the media and we'll get to that later the media. But like I'm like you're on the you're on the ground there and you tell me what it's like I've gotten calls. My friends are like war zone I'm like. I did that's just not happening here. I'm in park eating. Outdoors it's just not. Hearing that all you want is just not true. So talk to you on the streets and other countries. They legitimately locked out. You'd like do not go out. They were at the point where they're all like let your dog shit inside where you can't for any reason here it's kind of like kind of don't like we didn't do it in Italy had like two hours a day where you could shop and it was like staggered by what block you lived on its shore. There were definitely harsher lockdowns in other places, but against Shelly Melvin, you can't leave your coats is that it's just it's not fucking clear and like even even now when we know a lot more about it, we're certainly much better at treating it, and that's a big part of the reason why deaths have gone way way down. From, N., Y. When there's these new. Outbreaks of it it's not like New York or new. Jersey or Italy or these places where you're looking at lots of dead people because they're much better at treating it but even now it's like so back then in March, they were telling US lives on services the fuck in super spreaders who are who are you know a symptom? And also they were swearing it's not airborne. What have you? We definitely know it's not airborne. Questioning all of that now now it's like an actually a lot of people do think it's airborne or at least kind of airborne it's a you know it's a fucked up virus but what happened was they they dovan much like. With the wars. And something I. Remember when the Knicks gave Alan Houston all that money million dollars they paid them more than Kobe was making and then Alan Houston continued to be in Houston and I remember the people starter. That's all he ever was. Better starters. Okay. Okay. Okay Okay Kobe team MVP, right every other year. Debatable the best player on the team and the GM in the they'd be like, no, no no. This was a great move blah, Blah Blah, and of course, it's like well now you have to keep defending it because if you don't, then you have to admit you've got. To new fired so like you can't just admit. So this is what happened is they went so big on this that none of them could admit maybe we overreacted to this and and then some weird psychological phenomenon like developed where people got really into it and people got angry at you if you ever tried to bring up good news or something where you'd like well, Hey, look this this virus look it's terrible that it's fucking killing people but look it really is primarily killing people who are like only compromised an old well I don't like that whatever they say pre pre existing. It to me. That's too much when umbrella word because that also includes people who have asthma, which is a lot of people when you hear it when you hear preexisting conditions, you'll like you picture old age people in their deathbed already. But the reality is like someone the flu last year someone who have bronchitis earlier this year asthmatics. Of those people. So it's like I just hate that word because it's somehow justifies he's a smoker. There's a lot of smokers I get what you're saying but the truth is if you look at the death numbers from Kobe in America, it's it's I get what you're saying where that can be misleading, but it's more misleading to pretend that everybody can fucking die from this. The truth is that the amount of people I think the CDC numbers and go double check these numbers because I don't have them offhand but I think the people I think it was like six percent of the people who died didn't have one of these like five or six, but those things are not enough to like. I just not buying that these things. Say like yet you should die. Oh No, no, no, I'm not. Nothing no one's saying there's all these normal people in there where it's like, let's say, let's say burt or J. Died Oh, fuck? Well, technically they were overweight. So that's tradition and you're like, yeah. But there are people who never would have died no no question about that although I do think that. So the guy who is the head of he is like A. England she was the epidemiologist who mapped out like their biggest. He was like the head of the team and I'm blanking on his name but he was the head of the team that mapped out their projections and he said that his estimate was that between fifty percent to two thirds of the people who died of of covert would probably going to die in twenty twenty. So that's that's a better served not. So take those people out six percents into account I'm not listening I'm not saying none of this means it's not a problem even if it's going to kill people who would have lived two more years like that's not that doesn't mean it's not a problem. But what it does do is give you more information about who's actual concepts ball to the disease and that maybe it's the the move is to protect the more vulnerable people and not lock everything down and I also think it's like you know you. You have to think about these things in terms of like a cost benefit analysis titling for life. That's the that's the number what Oh. Well that's what they do and even though that's Kinda that's Kinda crazy sounding it's like you can't just you know what? What? CUOMO. was which this Mocatta just drove me crazy after. You know weeks after they abandoned the flattening the curb narrative. Is he said if it saves one life that's crazy. That was his justify because we. You have warehouses. You don't have factories because like someone will die every year and. You. Don't have parks dude. We allow people to Shit like we have. That that saves one life as I get off your high horse fuck off to here and the other thing about it is that it's not like okay. It's also going to cost lives you know what I mean and It's not. We don't actually operate that way even though that sounds Nice we don't actually operate in a in a way where we make these decisions all the time you're allowed to go skydiving. Skydiving, and if it could save one life to not do that but you know what we allow people to do that. Now that is a little bit different than a contagious disease obviously because you're not going to land. Sure. But just to say that if it saves one life justification is bullshit but I'm. You know like there are. You know the truth is it's very, very unlikely that people who are under sixty five and are in pretty good health. I would like to pretty good health and so one of the early cases that I saw was Michael Yo I was a comic in mid forties but in real good shape he like works out Kind of like Mark Norman Body, you know was just like in quite good shape and he got real sick from it thought it was going to die and it was like Oh fuck isn't that the fear came it's killing everybody that guys in Cheshire and then later found out like he had a vitamin D deficiency and he didn't get a lot of sleep. It's like, Oh, well, that makes Hanson and then I was like wait hold on I. Don't get a lot of sleep every time I fly. So. Like I can be in that position. And then it'll be just justified away like while he was sleeping. Look, it's not a matter of justifying anything away. It's just that you. there. Are Risks in life and in life you have to figure out like you have to kind of in some way figure out like how serious is this risk like what are we talking? So I I would like people to. Discuss that and there was never discussion that we do everything. We do nothing and it's not like. Well, let's actually wanted to go. It's old age homes hurt Mike Okay. What movements are put in place right now to protect old age homes and there was zero right and then all these resources are being thrown at all these other things and it's like. Well maybe if we through like all our resources at this, it would actually be efficient and so these are the conversations that like people weren't happening people like to be binary thinkers. It just makes people feel better. They feel like they have mastery over an issue and a lot of these things are way more nuance I think. I. Said this last year. and. He's one of the chief things back. Yes. That if like a bad, let's I don't Epstein gave charity to the United. Negro College Fund. and. Then all the shit he did was real but this cherry to the. Better off. So it's like you can't discount that completely right and there's a that's just the way life works I I, mean I remember saying this last year I think we talked about this last year on the podcast we were talking about like the green new deal and I was like, what bothers me is that there's these people who kind of like they jump from I believe in climate change. So I'm for this and you either do believe in it or you don't like well. Okay. But there's really like with climate change there's. kind of like four questions and you're acting like there's like one or two like it's like, okay. Is the climate changing? The is manmade activity responsible for the climate and if they agree with both of those, then they're like C. Four, the green new deal, and then you will know there's still more questions like how bad is it going to be, and then is your proposal like are the costs outweighed by the benefits because you could be like I believe in climate change and my solution is to like drop nukes on five continents and Down Carbon. Put that's not a good plan to look into it. You have to actually talk me through plan and go how much is this going to cost? And there are balances that are very hard to strike. But just for example, you know like we kind of all, do this all the time and don't even think about it. But like if someone said I'm I'm really concerned about getting into a car accident, and so I bought a car that's like a very safe car or so I always wear my seatbelt or I never drink before I drive or something like that. 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So I suppose mouths pocket shut and she was like I trust people tell me to care and it was like, wow, you can't even you can't even agree with me on. I don't know so I'll be quiet because I know this person I sign up for for cause followed that advice which is fairly reasonable advice it would destroy her entire identity they would literally destroy who she is if she had to go oh I'm GonNa stop talking about things that I don't know about because that's what she does. So it's just you know people get really dug in and identity is a motherfucker dude identity is a really big fucking thing you want to now you want to save that. We can right now or you can let me just say this and then we could. We could bring it up later because we gotta keep going in and out of it that's fine. But I remember this time right? I was watching. Brother was three years old and I'm like thirteen years older than him. So I guess I was like sixteen and he's three from my mother's second marriage and so the correct match. The more correct term for sure. But So I was watching the Knicks game and he came up to you know he was like interested. So I was kind of New York Knicks check in every day for fantastic sports New York Knicks official sponsor of fear skeptic tank. I. Swear to God I buy that one. Out of. Connector that's. Rogan. We need to move some tickets. Only selling fifty tickets. That's fifty forty eight more demagoguery. We've got to keep the lights on. WNBA number really But so we're watching the game and my little bit is three years old. I don't know why just remember this always remember this moment by was explaining the game to them or whatever, and he's three years old and he looks at the screen and looks at me and he goes which one is May. What and this is a weird thing for three-year-olds illness like kind of confused with my report. I. Mean who you rooting for, we root for the ones in the blue shirts and Blah Blah and then he kind of like accepted that moved out but it's like that's how basic and in US identity How? A three year old tries to process. The new thing is because WHO's mate like? Who Am I if I want to care about this at all, I need to know who I am, who represents me who's and then basically what explain to him is that that is how it works. We root for all the people in the blue shirts us those are but that's Why are the cooler? I really don't know anything about them and. Research I just like the Knicks suck in identity explains so much about human psychology. It's this is why this is the essence of white kids become school shooters. It's like, why would anyone want to do that? It's like well, because he'd rather be that guy than the guy who gets picked on at fucking school I'd rather be the one fucking care how does the sign up for all the details that are given to them right I fucking hate my identity so much that I prefer this fucking identity of the guy fucks you up to how many people let's just say tomorrow racism. In. Every form every institutionalized thing every likes light numbers or more whatever if it all were like gone. Even everyone's truly equal men and women earn the same regardless of whether they did before not everything is even how many people like that person or other people you know with the next day after that killed themselves. Great we did it but it's like I have no identity left. It would really hurt liberal white women. That were to happen but so that's and better than he identity thing I think really just came out especially especially when we're so in this cold Kovic. Cove people like who do you identify with? Well, identify with the Democrat governors and the masks and the carrying about this and all this reared ritualistic shit like even the both ways. People were like robbing your mask and ripping it off like are you know one hundred percent and the people who like I? It was crazy. How they were like if you are this party, Republican you stand for you hate mass you hit and it's like. Old People in the Republican Party who don't WanNa were scared of getting dying as an eighty year old and the Republican Party who's like ghosts is really frightening. They say, hurts people my age. And everyone puts on them you must not wear a mask Yet it's very, it's very weird man it's very strange and there's no on the surface. There's no reason why covid should have been a partisan issue. There's nothing about it, but it does show you something about like more living in that people had to force a smartest an issue into this situation like you're forcing this like square peg into a round hole Israel tried for a little bit when actually when they were way ahead of the virus. They were like we are not going to make this political. We are all both sides where each time. This is an issue that is about safety and we are not going to do this. It's just let's all decide together. What's the best saving Israelis? So we can get back to killing Arab. Hey guys. This episode is brought to you by apartheid. South Africa anymore. It's all over the world apartheid proud sponsor of skeptic. Saying I just don't care. and. Then eventually, they did make it. Political ads are getting more and more believable. Apartheid was going to happen. Were that does. But for a while they were like none of that with salt. We're all in this together we've got. Right got into it right away. And then it just became. A thing where you couldn't have any type of reasonable conversation, you really couldn't out and it was like very weird like people would be you know. You know people only with your most reasonable and closest friends. Could you be like, what do you think about this everyone? Else's like Hazar Pin and we'll shout at you and it's like and things are me to upside down I mean like it's you know I think it's really something that like you know look you could say all the stuff with how it was handled early on like I'm willing to give like a pass to like out they fucked up. People, thought it would be this way and it wasn't people thought this would work and it didn't you know. But for Cuomo to be like writing a book about what a great job he did handling Kovic while you're writing people to be holding him up like he did. Just objectively the worst job like no state had more deaths than him. I mean I don't I don't get where you get to be some of its they'll look part of that's out of his hands, not like the density of New York. City. The travel into New York, city socio economic conditions of New York. There's a lot of factors that go into work here, but he did make the decision to send covert positive patients into nursing homes. Now let's say let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say. That thought that was the best decision to make at the time. Okay. We now know it wasn't and it killed a lot of people so fine. You made a mistake, but you don't get to brag about what a great job you did when you don't there's this thing that happens is once you accept a new reality everything as a comparison to the new reality not to the old way for instance, stand up in New York now exists outdoors. Now if you told me a year ago, we're doing an outdoor show hard pass. Sure. But once we've accepted but there is no standup will oh, eighteen people in fucking central park with no Mike is lovely. L. A. Never got this never fully shut down like we did. They did a half. There was fucking movie theaters opening shit. So when they were like who standards not coming back like what the fuck and it's like, Oh, you got this hadn't gone zero so you had never accepted. that it was like slowly going down there's something really creepy about how quickly so many PDF, so when they accepted that. York's worst city in the world for this then it's like. That's so the comparing it to that, and they said Cuomo's job started on on day. Horrible. You're not day. Okay. Now, the other thing that fucking happened. While this was all going down early on was that the fuck in so and there's other aspects that I should just mentioned just because I do want to get my fucking angle out on this that I care about. But all of the fucking problems like even if Kovic was the disaster that people thought it might be and at the beginning there were people thought we might be looking at millions of deaths and like you know like could be really really bad. But even if that had been the case, the major problems that were I mean look viruses are nasty little microscopic fucking counts. You know what I mean like they're fucking bad and this was a particularly nasty one so that in any however you organize society are GonNa, fuck and suck unless some fucking genius figure something out. But The fucking problems with all of this shit what the reason why we were having masks, shortages and problems with the amount of vent even though it turns out, we didn't need them. If we thought we knew we thought we and if we had needed them the reason why there was a shortage was this should is because they're all like crazy fucking regulated by the fucking FDA and you have to jump through a million fucking hoops in order to fucking be allowed to fucking even produce them the reason why it took so long to get testing wasn't good not has to be allowed. It's wasn't him nuts like two months later like I can't get a test. Wait what it was like. Whatever you want to say but like testing and if you have stay home Kinda, shit was important on both sides. Well, the everyone kind of thought that tracers because they'd be like. Well, look we cut all this red tape because it usually takes two years for us to fucking. You know permit someone to develop a new test but we let them do it in four months or something like that, and you're like, yeah. But why can't they just fuck and do it and like I'm not saying like obviously the you. In like a true free market. Okay. I'm not saying you WANNA, get some fucking coverted test from like fucking Joe Schmo who made it in his basement you know what I mean. But if like a reputable lab wants to produce a fucking Cova town, do let them fucking do it like I don't know let let them fucking do it. Maybe we can get a handle on this thing earlier and we don't have to contact tracers like people like by the time we got a PO- A test back fourteen days like. Was Don't matter and just like I kind of mentioned earlier but it's like anything that could have avoided this shit. The the what I think isn't looked at nearly enough instilled. This Day is what the costs of this lockdown war and I'm not saying that there wouldn't be any cost associated with not having these actions, but the costs are so. Incredibly. High that to look at this and go like Oh but some more people have died. So it's a no brainer. It's like Dude I. You don't even know how many. Not, just the economic cost isn't removed from the human cost like this people's lives have just dreams have been destroyed. See it all over New York. Oh, tragic dude. It's a fucking tragedy. See every one of these fucking businesses represents somebody's dream in their hopes and you're no idea what people put into to open these small businesses and it's it's terrible. It's terrible but also just like these human. Like. I remember reading about this one guy he liked posted a long thread on social media stores statistics. No not at all. I'm just saying that whatever you're about to say it's like stories heartstrings. That's. Anecdote and then get my point is going to be like end. There's lots of stories like this but there was this one guy who has an autistic kid and he goes kid was making really great progress because he was in this special school for autistic kids and they shut the school down and he's like completely reverted back and he's like Oh probably never get that and those are real tanks and that's a real thing and there's like stories are like all over the country and it's very you know this this thing came out that was like well listen we have to trust the scientists and okay scientists are it's it's very good to listen to scientists. But scientists are not really in a position to weigh the costs of no. There'll be supposed to say how bear the risks here the risks, and here's what we could do to minimize the risk, but they are not really in any position to say to answer this. Question, which is like, well, what's more important destroying freedom destroying the economy destroying people or? Families or this? Dior. Same thing when all the sizes came out and said, black lives matter protests are worth it well, Hey, great. We'll get. That is like so I was Rachel Maddow I was watching a lot of single parents they loved her. And I'd like to way of speaking kind of. Speaks normally instead of like like Presi? You know yes not Presi call it normally, but it's said You understand what I'm saying? Like you knew was trying to explain story they would do it that way same trump does he didn't speak. It's funny when you see him speak and hands over the pence and he's like we're not. Let pets like the American people politician. So but so she was talking to Georgia had just opened up they had it was a bad state. They just opened up there about two a day or two, and she was talking to a doctor some hero doctor she already had him on the podcast whatever the show. Scheduled and she goes, oh well, actually your doctor you save lives you worked you know eight eighteen hours a day, and you saved this life in this life and people are calling you a hero. So maybe you'd be. Would like to say they're about to open up Georgia again and she's leading him so hard and this will go into the media we delayed or but like she's like, you would say that it puts on Sarah. Leah. Risk right and there's a terrible idea to open up the the the. Businesses and stuff like you would see that right and he goes and he just doesn't take the baby goes I'm Dr That's not. For me to know all I know is how to save the lives that are gonna of me who are sick like he goes I think there's like a economic. Parts of that decision to that also I have no idea about but anyway, the point is we need you get your vitamin D. You gotta get some zinc and he just stayed on point what was so strange giving experts like expert opinions and so much of it was like an anti this kind of hypothesis but I think this is true. But I really do think that if Donald Trump had from day one. been. I'm taking virus very seriously. We need a lockdown I'm issuing national lockdown. We all need to wear masks. We only to do this. I think every liberal and leftist you know would have said this is tyranny. He's a Nazi and wherefore opening up, and we don't need to wear these masks and I almost wish that had been the dynamic and then the left would be on the side of like freedom our which which in some ways fits the left wing thing better than read them being pro masks seems like the conservative thing to be not the liberal and the first few days I remember saying a few like names of a guy like. Taking some stuff to a counter. Like. Cigarettes cigarettes personal is GonNa. Bring. Don't you fucking touch it? He will get that Kobe at all and it was like Oh, that's an overall. He's overly seriously that does seem redneck Republican, and then it just switched to like the touch cough on it. I don't care I'm Republican recycle. The conservative mindset. It would seem would be more about like we want walls we want order we want protection. Yeah. You know like the artists like kind of left person you'd think would be more like take some risks. Life isn't without its risks and I'll roll the dice because life is. Going to fuck with condoms that's that's very left wing idea though ranch and that can be necessary and important to be like you know what life is more than just keeping your heart beating Jeff is about going with show hanging out with a friend doing like there's more to life than this so you know. Anyway. It just seemed like this weird thing that got forced in and I'd be in this position where they'd be like. Okay. So doctors made like well, there's an economic question that's a little over my pay grade here you know and it's like we're not over but separate from my area of expertise. So you go like okay. So we're putting tens of millions of people out of work. I just read the other day they're projecting these are just. Projections who the fuck knows but I think it was a Newsweek CNBC someone said, he said that sixty percent of the businesses that closed in the lockdowns are going to be closed forever now that's like fucking i. mean that's huge and then I'd get these like liberals and leftists who would be like well, whatever we gotta lockdown to save lives and whatever whatever you should be like you should feel like they had truman I think are somebody would like call. People who died at war and be like, yes I have to send people to war. But yes, I also feel horrible that you lost your son I'm not going to be like well, that's the cost. It's like, no, he was stayed up at night. He was torn over it because he was like somebody died because I had to do this thing maybe felt bad about dropping those might have been. was. Some old. But. I don't know who actually like explained to like left-wing Friends of mine to be like it just feels like well, obviously, you know this but do I have to explain to you that there are profound human costs to? Economics like do do you do I really have to explain to a leftist that party? Has. Negative. Like a racial. Effects that really you don't like you. This is your whole thing is that you know this? I. Think a lot of were kind of were country made up of dummies until like whatever at the case I've got towards our sports fans or some of the dumbest sports fans in the world, which is look. Like. Will why very centers? Because I've got to Cowbridge. and. It's like you apply that same like rob pup- you ought to feminism to the covert situation do whatever it's like i. feel you anything but I think is the best thing no one has the ability here in this dumb fucking cowboy country to go up listen I. Don't really know much about this. Yeah. No, you're right and then the other thing and we could, I guess touch on like. How it all lake played out but the thing that just in that that drove me crazy that really didn't get nearly enough coverage or that I think most people aren't aware of by the Falcon Financial Shit that went on when this I like right. I mean, this is like to me why look like politicians seriously and I don't know you know how to say that Shit better than me and protect yourself. But maybe after a trial or something like that should be fucking put up against the wall and executed is that in fucking? chills yeah or jail or whatever, and obviously that's all just satire. Case. The feds are listening. I'm not saying it should be thank eventually the people take power. What do you think's GonNa Happen? They're gonNA be like let's be Cool Alexa? Jail. Or are they gonNA Fuck Shit. Until people die if there was an all knowing moral God and he decided to rain Hellfire on all of these politicians I would get where he's coming from what do you mean for what what are they do? Rosso win this all fucking happens and they're fucking failing you like really the government if you think about it right and there's like to me like as an anarchist like this would almost be like when I have these like abstract conversations with people about how I think society should work or whatever. This would almost be the example of why you need a government like well, what if something like this happens this huge Vulcan virus and? It's a global pandemic and you need all of this, and then you just watch them fail at their job at every turn and the first fucking thing. These pieces of Shit do when the fucking wall America is on its knees. We're in our darkest fucking moment really hurting like people talking dying people terrified people losing their livelihood all this shit scared at home watching politicians. What do we do the? I fucking thing these pieces shit dead there the Federal Reserve Extend fucking two point five, trillion dollars in zero interest loans to all the big banks. So right away let's fucking raped the American people to give give it to banks big banks who've already been bailed out by the taxpayer. Back just because you know they have some justification like, wow, this could lead to. On certainty, and so the banks need to still be able to give credit or whatever it is, but it's fucking bulk. It's like six hundred of the people got they also like while we're here. Let's fuck. It's almost like Nazi art stuff. That's we're GONNA. Free people, but I can grab as our front they added to the debt. It's been something like over like forty thousand dollars per per household like the debt this year they gave you a lousy twelve hundred bucks or whatever they fucking I. They had the Federal Reserve of Fuckin- money right that they that they just give trillions free to the banks. Then they pass these huge and of course, Donald Trump brags about how it's the biggest bill ever look we wasted the most of your money. Dick overcompensating orange president yeah wow. Thank you. Oh, make it bigger. That's better. Vigorous Bill. Thing to do. So he fucking they do. It's fucking smallest part of the bill was the fucking money that they gave to Fokin people they get there was corporate bailouts corporate welfare throughout the whole thing they bail that all the airline companies. The fucking. Kennedy Center got a few million dollars the Lakers friends the La Lakers. City that was failing. took four million dollars in loans and and. Then people found out with the Lakers took four million, and then they will quickly that was a mistake. We're giving a back. You give it back because he found you. Just going to steal that from fucking because you're tactically allowed. There are a whole lot of people didn't fuck in and and those things even though their loans at the idea that like. Them Roller given you know what I mean. So it's like they're basically just it's just corporate welfare. So this is what the fucking government did wall in your hour of need not only do they not protect you but then they thought and took the opportunity to go because this is what they always do. Well, it's a crisis and you know what a crisis is. Rob Emanuel said right fucking Rahm Emanuel said go. Crisis that's just an opportunity that's an opportunity to be able to do things you couldn't otherwise do. So they fucking robbed you like in this fucking moment. It's so despicable on top of that Dianne Feinstein and like I think three other senators they found this out that they fucking and this is like the type of shit where it's like Oh my God yes there should be a trial you should be publicly hung like I don't. fucking sold their stocks. They were publicly saying, don't worry about the virus everything's fine and they went and sold off the fucking market sold their hotels stocks their airline stocks cause they knew what was really happening. We're about to fucking tanked delegate shutdowns like, Hey, before we announce the Trading. Yeah. But it's not technically fucking. You know their politicians. So it's just whatever and then I got in trouble 'cause fucking Rogan told me is about to send that deal with spotify invested in ten grand in it, and then I'm supposed to keep quiet. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Sorry fucking. Dude I. fucking nailed it. Wasn't like I was president just for that information, but I cashed in off it. Yeah. Did you really do that? Okay. I was born alive. Wasn't. Right. After me saying this thing back killing politicians I really I really don't WanNA bring legal trouble down. Like right, right. Right. Actually. All right. That's exactly the probe. So everyone fucking knows comedians. This is all satire. Just just did regret not what I saw how bucks jumped up I was like, oh That'd be a problem that's why you can't because you had insider information. I'm I don't even. Something, like fucking sent a lot worse when you guys are in charge of protecting us, you're hurting the fucking. You sold out your fucking country. I mean it's just like one of them was like my husband, my husband sold some stocks or something it. I didn't know it was and they're like it was only two thousand dollars like, Oh, you can't relate to Americans at all. You only a few hundred, thousand dollars, Hillary Clinton said that they were dead broke after they left the White House and they were worth four million dollars and it's like, yeah. No. I, get that in your circle that's dead broke like do I get that in Hillary Clinton circles having four million dollars is being bro you're hanging out with fucking billionaires you're broke but do you not have enough fucking like wear without like a you that tone deaf that you think talking to regular people and referring to having four million dollars an hour bring can't afford a Maserati month for four years, but we'll have to think about it. Happen. Willy Nilly. month. We might be doing untuckit for vacation with. Lamborghini the roll down, window. Right. So anyway, but so so that was the shit that went on. The evil people when you see that and then when you are on trial in fucking better world and have to say for yourself, you should just be like, yeah, I fucked up. I was wrong except the punishments. No of course, not that's not how it works. That's why I always think revolutions. The only way I'm not saying we need a revolution I'm just saying if you really want change the revolutions the only way. Is People are part of a fucking of virus out system. It's you can't go in there with a clean while the system needs to be destroyed one way or the other. But what you the problem is that revolutions aren't peaceful and that's kind of you know the issue and the vast majority of the time they don't work out. Well, you look like when you live. In America I, think we kind of have this idea the revolutions that's a little bit rosier than reality not that the revolutionary war was like great but you know in terms of revolutions that kind of worked out in not utter disaster we're kind of one of the soul examples of that. You know if you look at how the fuck French Revolution worked out is like really bad. And didn't even know the system was corrupt beforehand it didn't and help the people any. And if you like the Russian revolution, it's like, okay. So this led to like you know literally the biggest genocides in the history of the world. So you know I'm not saying it's going to be dangerous card to go down I'll say I want it. I'm just saying like what you WanNa have is fucking is is like a balkanisation talking you WanNa have like a decentralisation you want to have the system kind of abolished by people just breaking away in Zambia more in Columbia their constitution was written in the Eighteen hundreds. and in Nineteen ninety-one, they rewrote the Constitution didn't include indigenous people, which is a way bigger part of their population than than here didn't include all the FARC members and the whatever, and they said, let's Al. everybody comes the table and let's all sit down and write a new constitution that was nineteen ninety-one and they would like and I asked people that when I was there as wide why did you do that? They go like our concern was like a hundred and something years old it was like out of date. And they'll like held your student a lot older. And we are not in any rush to like rewrite it. No but we are I mean we basically tore it to shreds this fucking year but not in a good way but So that's you know. So the government fucking failed everybody they took enormous power and the the. Power well I mean it's like hard to overstate it. No matter how much you try and these are this. I should say is like a separate idea from how we respond the virus like Sort of separate from that like. I don't take a bunch of money for business. Well, that's for sure like that aspect of it but I gotta say an again like I'll put my bias like out there for all just to like those but it's like if you Like the way I look at things is like if you're talking about what the government is doing to people and you're going like, okay. But did this help more than it hurt was necessary was it for the greater good to me? That's like all the wrong way to look at Shit like I fucking. It's almost like if I were like if I were to kill you and take your fucking organs and then go give them to someone else and like saved a life, and then we were having a Debate about like well. Did that ultimately I mean it did kill Ari but it did save someone else's life who needed a heart and then I go well, what if I took two of your organs and save two lives? So now I could argue that it was actually worth it to kill you because two people were saying to the question is that's how the the point is. You don't have a fucking right to do that. The right to do that. That's like how I look at things. That's what. It's more like this have a right to decide for someone that they can have a funeral for their dad what it's like this because I, I like using comparisons but I try to keep them as as fair as possible. What it's more like, Hey, that guy's dead he never signed we can use his organs, but I'm going to take his organs and give someone who's about to die from organ failure. I mean that's that's a different concert closer but well, it's not closer to the reality because the reality of this is that you're actually Violating real living people's rights and my point is that you don't have a right to do that. You don't like I don't care. If you make the argument that it's effective, people have a right to assess their own risk tolerance is in life, and if you if you like fucking don't WanNa, take risk you had no you have the right to self quarantine and you have the right to wear a mask everywhere and you have the right. But other people have the right to say you know what? I'm GONNA fuck enroll the days there's A. Not Quite. Simple. Well, I'm not saying it's simple but I'm saying that like it's not as simple as the other way either like look I've a two year old daughter and one thing that you kind of become aware of when when you have like a little kid for like how precious every second is that she's never going to be too again you know like she's too right now she was one for a little bit and that's gone. That's gone forever. I'll never have my one year old that another kid will never have my daughter at one again. That moment was like priceless to me, and they're like the idea that there was like a month. I think I did a month. We're like of of my my mother and my sister didn't see my daughter and then at that point I was like, no, fuck this like I'm not th this is priceless fucking time like I'm not I mean it's up to them if they don't want to risk my mother's really the one who's in I'm sure how would you feel if your mom died or but you know what she was comfortable taking that risk so here's. Here's the orange or is how would you? How would your the children of your mom's friend feel if you gave it to your mom was okay and they gave it to her her mom. Yeah. Okay. Right. There's a lot of like factors with this too right but then you also go like. My mother could get into a car accident on the way over to visit there are risks. Now obviously makes the world riskier, but what is the risk and are you comfortable taking that risk, and then how much do you value losing precious time like you would have been nice if we got all the information and really could decide for ourselves but we weren't getting all the information and what information we were getting was real politicized in like faked almost like mislead us down a path of like going the way they wanted us to it was just like. I don't know so Cuba, they have A. Guy From Diaz fifteen hundred dollar fine if you're outside without your mask. Which? was like who cares just put on your fucking mask, open up your business and shit like that I get you guys really worried about fifteen hundred off and I was like that's a lot to be a lot more money in Cuba because factory dot more money. If far less. So the result was everywhere fucking masks right and it was like, well, the government was different than us, but the to the government have the right to say you have to wear your mask and it's like. No maybe not. But then it's like, but at least they were smart enough to be like other shit can be open. This shit doesn't hurt anybody. Can give him credit for being smart enough but it's not a coincidence that the same government that you're talking about. Also things they have a right to tell you what book you can't they also to fucking throw you in a cage for criticizing the government, but it's also not a coincidence that they have one of the lowest of Kobe deaths around sure maybe maybe not. But you know what? Like all fucking like I'll I'll put my money in on not shredding freedom not giving up on all of that and not being Cuba there's more to life than just fucking literally being alive. More to it than that, and like I would all take a free country over living in a fellow Canada's Hellhole about Canada Canada. Maybe a better example someone who had like we're close government wise and they not a lot per capita lower. Yeah. And there's been some like epidemiologists who were like fucking honest about this I read one I can't remember says. Or what it's like one of the most respected doctors in Japan and they were asking her like why Japan did so well, that really mom and and she goes and it was just so refreshing to hear and she goes well, the truth is the experts don't know. And we don't really know why also hit so hard why some areas warrant there's really there's a bunch of things that just don't exactly make sense that we can't. We don't exactly know what's going on and so I just I don't think it's it's completely clear and I think that on twitter people like to really argue in two hundred, eighty characters with certainty. But the truth is that even experts are kind of thrown for a loop over this. So we don't exactly know there are some good signs which are that you know the hospitalizations are way way down right now in the country, the deaths are way way down. down. Oh well, they're nothing like what was happening in New York at its height there's April hot spotlight, but in June July August. and. September. Now, deaths are really even about a thousand a day. Okay. Well, I mean to say that their way down from where they were at the peak but you know I think that. Is It's with us. Life is a little bit riskier than it was before Ed. Here's an interesting thing that's brings up the government doesn't have a right to tell you what to do whatever mask to meet him so stupid because it was so easy and going to. Stores can make your shoes and a shirt. So why can't they regular? Especially, it's a private. Storage government do that. Yeah. Yeah. But terms of like how you to tell me I can't open at my gym and it made me start thinking about stuff like who? Let's say I'm fully on board that okay. Also who you to tell my bar to Who are you to tell me? I can't open up a strip club next to a church. You know what I mean like there's all these laws and definitely not in a libertarian. Right. Now isn't you're just finding the truth and the truth is like, who are you two fucking tell me like well, okay. If fucking there is a church and like you know somebody school a school like that right and there's a I don't know there might be like some you know community board or something like that or there might be. Like somebody who owns a bunch of land in the area who's selling you know the land and part of their deal when they sell it to you is like well look, you can't do like a strip club here you can't do that, and if that's the case then fine you know what I mean but if they're not like in the local community. Or a property owner or something like that. Then you fuck them like Carmel does that criminals like no chain stores I don't know if that's still the case before other like no chance towards we bought this property who can have a norstroms here and like we we don't care capitalism as much. We care about the cool environment of the town and we. Don't want starbucks they're. Yeah we'll look we all but they all decided they voted on it. Yeah. Okay. So there's something to that that I can maybe you know like except, but there's also within these things. There's just like there's levels there's levels of how much your rights are being violated. Now as far as the the mask thing goes I, don't like. I think that. There's a lot of almost like. There's weird shit on both sides like weird psychological should on both sides of the mass chef NRA could give an inch they'll take a mile. There, there was a lot of shit that was going on during all this that like wasn't backed up by the science at all the hysteria about people like going to the beach and stuff like that. Really give it. Is Not being transmitted at the beach. The beach is like the that is the thing that never should've close like undenied people can easily social distance at a beach. In fact, they do you naturally socially distance at Biju. It was have you ever set up fucking towel within six feet of someone else at a fucking beach. That's pretty rare. You tend to be away from your outdoors. The wind is blowing. It's like it's very unlikely to be transmitted here. If you're in an indoor enclosed area with someone for an extended period of time wearing masks makes a lot of sense. If you're just walking down the street now, New York City's a little bit different. But if you're walking down the street, you're on New York it just doesn't make any fucking sense to wear a mask. It really is like fucking meaningless and so and even here in New York, it's all this weird fucking thing like they're doing these outdoor fucking. Right and like everyone's wearing a mask when they walk down the street and if you're not, we'll kind of look you like wondering mass to. And then if you sit down to Dine Oh, you take your mask off because fucking gotta eat. So what all of a sudden you can't transfer the fucking. I eat like we'll put it under the masks but thank you still can transfer it if you have it. Yeah. There's still going to try is like for five minutes is still five minutes of transference. It's it's all look. The truth is that none of it completely makes people don't know what they're doing. That they're trying to justify backward where do you see this all this shit where do you see this going? Because right now I feel like we've gotten to the point of like it's it's even doubt and it's not even not as low level even doubt at a really eight hundred and eleven hundred deaths a day and I think we're getting to the point where it's like a this we're used to this. So it's not a big deal that eleven hundred people died today today of a thing and so. Now kind of just done caring. But of course, that's always like look if fucking not let's say like in a different world, we didn't react like the way we did to Cova anything like that. But just a thought experiment, let's say there was no such thing as the flu you know, and then all of a sudden one year there was the flu people will be. Getting used to what was done? Sixty thousand people are going to die and babies are dying. That was one of those things to everybody when they were growing like it's not worth the flu when it wasn't worse than the flu yet. Fluid Wi, like the flu kills how many people in America here. It depends like thirty to sixty that okay. Like the flu killed sixty thousand people in America interest in America every year and I remember everybody wait. What do we gotTa Stop This fucking flew None of us are heading that number. So many things like this like folk into burke yellow says and things like this kill a Lotta fucking people but it's part of life life is not without its risk in life is not without its tragedy and this happens all around and there's really big killers like fucking obesity kills a lot of fucking and you know what the left made it illegal to say fat is bad. Yeah I do see is not unrelated to the COVID. I'm saying they're all kind of tied into I did see a correlation of most countries of like when into like lockdown to a degree and they kind of eased up the spike start happening. there's there's quite, but like I get what you're saying, but is that worth or not but then you also have to ask yourself like you go back to the initial justification, which was to flatten the curve. So that was the only justification to meet somebody a west now because they were going to look, we know this is going to happen and we're GONNA have to open up at some point anyway. So what we're just trying to do is not overwhelm the hospital systems like there's an argument there. Will I be outside two hours waiting for two days or telling me like how you go home you're a high risk. Situation and if it takes two weeks of a lockdown to avoid that. Okay. Maybe that's worth it. But if you're saying that, oh, these places lockdown. But then when they open up the cases spike is like okay. So what are you saying we locked down forever I mean you're GonNa have to open up at some point anyway it looks to me like. Kobe with us. Now, it's going to be in the family of Corona viruses that people get, and we're going to have to deal with this and you know what the truth is as fucked up as these numbers are human beings have been through way worse fucking Shit and kept moving forward and not given up on everything and the truth is there are some. Silver linings guess it before we treat it much better. We know what we're doing much better that only continue to get better off the kids don't fuck really die of it, which is like, thank fucking God for that Joe Louis Calm down once when it was like an April something and he was saying the cool thing is like Kazuko like mid or. Late, April, if you get today, you're on a far better place and if you got it three weeks ago, we just know how to treat it better and it's like some like not care about here is a here's something I wanted to tell you let's say there's like two hundred the thing that'd be two, hundred, fifty, thousand, this year Okay to fifty. Two. Hundred fifty thousand deaths Times ten. Is. Two point five million. So there was a point, five million I know in this country, it's ten percent of the country's GonNa die but it's not. We don't have to provide those times another ten and you have twenty, five million. So if twenty five, million people here, one percent of US would die but we don't. Times another ten and you get two, hundred, fifty, million people closer to our population is so that is one tenth of one percent. So the reality is it's about. Point, it's two thirds of one tenth of one percent of the population will die. So on some level. You think like who gives a shit? That's almost nobody even though this has been one of the worst countries one one doctor or maybe it wasn't a doctor I don't know but it was someone who said he's like, let's say there was a you know like a a jar of jelly beans and two of them were were poisoned. Were poison his. He was he was basically making the argument that this is why we have to lockdown because he goes. Wouldn't you just not jelly beans like if there's to poison ones in there when she's not have them and then this Guy Tom Woods knows like this brilliant. He goes he was like, well, look I mean if you WanNa make the odds better. The odds are like if you get, it's like a ninety nine point something percent survival rate. So make the odds he goes and now make the jelly beans represent your dreams, your life your family. He Goes Dude if there were ninety nine jelly beans and one poison one in there and those jelly beans represented everything I've worked for for my family, my life for my business for my country, my community it goes I would eat those jelly beans with. Out Hesitation because the jelly beans the same as getting in a car going going work. Yes I'm taking it. I don't mean to like debt lake. When I say this, obviously there are like the world is a risk. Because of Covid, but you're just making the point that we with a lot of other areas we take for granted we accept risk in life and don't give up on life for the threat of risk, but the other like. To the thing you said before which maybe we can transition into that is like to me literally one of the craziest things maybe the craziest thing that I've ever seen in my life, the corporate press and establish for pull off was the moment when the black lives matter protests first erupted and this was coming right off the heels of months. Three months of Americans giving up everything giving up our. Entire way of life and everyone, and literally it was two days after they were writing horror stories about teens at the beach in Georgia or wherever Oh. My God this is going to spread and it's going to kill your killing grandma. You don't care about any of this and then all the sudden this George Floyd Guide dies these massive fucking protests abrupt and we're cool with that. So now he has that so. That's an excuse to go out there and protest will you know what it's It's fucking racism and then epidemiologists are signing onto the idea that yeah you know what I mean. We think that racism is such a health issue that it's okay to go protest racism now I'm sorry but you have just spent three months. Being serious follow the scientists people to the American Society, and now you have exposed yourselves as political actors. You can feel however you feel about racism and how big a problem it is. But that is not. In epidemiologists scientific point of view, you can't tell someone you just ask someone to not have a funeral for their father and now you're GonNa say, no, this is really important and also they didn't say if you're super high risk or if you're around anyone high risk, you definitely cannot go well but not even just that the whole point was they were the whole mentality through the three months of the lockdown was like, no, it doesn't matter if you're high risk or not. Happy. Wrong and all this. So but now all the sudden that's supposed to be. Okay. So here's when I know what we were lost when science started getting involved in not just this but in general when they weren't just like, here's my finding. Here's my findings I don't care. Because if you're scientists now and you need money for a grant for for research. And they go. What do you think about genders? And they go I mean. Science and I don't know all the stuff, but they go science says two genders. Peanuts or your vagina or you have both a peanuts China, and then we have a separate term for that but it's a small whatever right is there like going to get a and then no one's GonNa WanNa give you money for your research on Lung Cancer Yup. So now you have to just keep mouth shot about science There's a professor who got fired for us in China you hear every fucking two cents as you hear the word Nigger Nigger nigger and I, think it means and Every comic who goes to China comes back with that same joke like they were dropping the end by the time she's got fired is a I think speaking in Mandarin and he got fired for it sounding too close at us and he's like, so what do you mean not use Chinese I don't. But so it's like the idea what's on science backs down to that scientists were fuck completely politicized. Oh, in the one other issue just before we get into the black lives matter because I did think this was so important to. But the other thing that's really really creepy about this whole follow the science thing is that it's like follow the science but and this is to your point but the acceptable science because what happens is then there'll be some other doctors who. Are Like Hey we think the lockdowns are all wrong and they should look there were there was this video of the doctors out in California who said we need to end the lockdown? This is bad for people's health that video got fucking taken down off a fucking youtube and keeps getting taken down as people reposted there was that woman who was a very accredited epidemiologists who put out that documentary, the corona virus hoax or whatever it was called got taken down off. Do I have a private group for the people who supporting listeners that part of the problem. Never used to happen every single day I, get a notification. Now because I'm the moderator of that group, fake news was posted in your group and has been removed because it something challenging the covid official narrative and just to give people swimming because we don't know enough about it. So it's like there's obviously fake news aspirin curate. Okay. You're lying, but they also might be right looked there was a doctor who put out this video in I. Believe it was late March early April who put out this video got a lot of heat for it. He was saying the ventilators are killing people and they said Oh this guy's a conspiracy theories and it's like well, look he could have been. But turns out he was right turns out. He was fucking right and they were killing people. So is this really what you want science to become you want science to be will whatever we decide the official narrative is is the narrative and no other doctor can now give you his opinion remember a few good men. And there were like. It's Nicholson and we've got to go out. Nicholson. And there, but looking at each other like he's a general were. Like are finding is that that's the guy who killed him. Can we go after like where we've and I think science has the same things. Here's are finding like faulk. Yeah. This finding is going to garrison a lot of trouble. And so the and then most people go with the you know they get they go along to get along. That's how most people last time I saw signs fight back was That British cell system I think they did a study on OB cities linked to Stu Cancer. They, find there's a direct correlation. And a like kind of. Someone who's got more politically minded whatever you WANNA call it Chubby comic got really mad like how dare you fat shame and whatever and. The got we'll put angels wind of it like Hey I'm sorry that's you but like. The finding is there's a correlation and You can go and be that but the your your odds acquired. If publish it doesn't mean your odds aren't higher getting cancer. It's still the same whether we found they're not before we knew about lard being bad for you. It was still bad for you. You know you we butter fucking seven meals a day it's still on that way whether you know about it or not. This is like one of the weird things that underlies the kind of woke ism where it's like well, look there is objective reality and sciences job is to figure it out yeah, and so like this I'm sorry it's not all made to like. Comfort, your preconceived ideas, this isn't like trying to like confirm your worldview. We're trying to figure out what's real but so anyway to to the thing you want to get into but I did think that that was really just you know there are times top seen lots of examples in my life since I've been paying attention all this shit where the media will contradict a narrative that they had beforehand you know and usually it'll be like two years later and you're like, but remember two years ago they were saying but no one really cares. But this was like three days later like the just been trying to scare you about twenty year olds going to the beach and then. It's okay for a hundred thousand people to be in this mass protest. You know about that I saw what I saw a lot of is people. Quoting the news articles that support their own interests So business owners were way more on this hoax thing or mass don't help or the economy's important. People are committing suicide left and right all those stories. The old people were like everyone's gotta stay home. This is killing everybody shut down the business retired doesn't affect me at all shut down the businesses and it was weird that there's not a central like here's just the news yet you can't apply to your case or not. It's just the news and we don't have that anymore well, there there was also this really weird dynamic through I read this guy said this and what about the rest and we should not the lions by just there was this really weird dynamic through all the lockdowns where you'd see kind of like. and. This is probably the most been made point but we'd see like the celebrities like we're all in this together and you're like dude, lock you on man you live in a fucking mansion financially secure for life. You are not in the same position that is somebody I. Mean just another part of the state of the union that celebrities having no relation to what human life, and it's just been exposed and some really profound weird ways, and then something about the fact that they all basically became podcasters on TV and you just see them basically have the same set we haven't how bad. Day All you really can't do without their writers. You can't you need the live audience you need the writers you need the set you need everything. All this up on my own I didn't even have a fucking Guyq doing this. That when that's what you do you find a way to make this entertaining because otherwise people aren't going to listen to it. But when you're used to having all those props and then you lose them and you see this thing but dude, when they would, they'd be out there. I mean look I for myself and I've been saying this on my podcast from from the beginning of it I go look. I'm in a situation where. I'm. Very fortunate like I am able to. Make. A living off podcasting and I can do that through the lockdown and I can support my family off that I'm. The lucky Americans right now but you know like, I feel that way too even though my main industry is completely of this but you know what you're still doing pretty well and you're in you're breaking and you're you're living your life now I've a fucking wife and daughter to support any. Yeah. Well I, have a wife and daughter to support, but I'm like, okay well, thankfully I'm I'm still able to take care of them but. I try to put myself in the situation like imagine. There's like you know imagine you got three kids and you and your wife, you know Armageddon. Or something like that, and all the sudden you're. and. You're waiting on this horribly coach and there's lots of people like to have some fucking celebrity in your mansion. We're all in this together you fucking. They are such close together never imagined song. They're all saying together to like. Houses helping who it's not. It's not even an artistic thing like fucking what's his name Post Malone I think like never mind was like with people from all over like that was interesting on its own. It wasn't like to rise US up just like. Cool but like some of these guys Mike, you guys fucking suck. We'll do all fucking suck. If you want to do something start giving your money away to people like Jesus Christ or. Say. Do what you want the same as every election the celebrities come and tell us what we need to do and it's like you don't relate to us at all. Here's some things. Here's some reality. It's horrible the coronavirus situation been horrible no matter which side you're taker how handled it? It's going to be bad for tons of different people lose their parents people lose their fucking people that guy from Broadway diet he was healthy it's like should happens. and. Then it's interesting moments of how people will handle it. Like I haven't heard anyone I know I live in a bubble of Manhattan haven't anyone give it up for the government. Be that trump or wherever for that six hundred bucks. At six hundred bucks we thought you gotTa Remember March Twenty third. We all thought I needed acts for the inside of my door because they're going to come door to door home invading when the resources run out. and. It's been a party here and that six hundred bucks a week was a massive thing. To get people. Okay. Now, here's an interesting thing. The other way I know somebody in Wyoming who is an asthmatic a high risk person and they're like, Hey, we're opening up the city state again, come back to work I- restaurant. Like why a high risk situations asked me to be with customers and like okay don't but you will lose that six hundred dollars and so it's like, Oh, I have to into into a place where I have to risk my life way higher now or now it's just like we haven't really done are. Terrible. No, it's a fucked up situation, and of course, particularly, if the government's going to, you know shut down the economy. Then of course, they have to give people something I mean you can't like make it illegal for someone to work and not compensate them for that freezing also like you know Look there there's lots of different things that they could have done but instead they chose like I said before to use this money to bail out all the Lakers. But. There's also a right, but there's also a real problem with E. CD's dynamics right? It's not a coincidence. I saw the other day. There were these protests that teachers protesting in New York City to not to open the schools. Because they're worried. You know that the Omega gets transmit Kobe so we want to stay home. Now teachers are going to get paid their full salary whether. They opened up or not. So it is not a coincidence that you see the teachers protesting to not open up and small business owners protesting to open up, and there's a little bit of an incentive problem there. So if you were to hypothetically say, okay teachers, you don't open up but you make half your salary but don't open now you start to find out how do you really feel about this? How many of you still want to protest because there should? Be some skin in the game. If you're GONNA say now of somebody's Germany was Germany and he lost his job and they have a year of unemployment at eighty percent of your salary and I was like that sucks. But at least in applying for a job and he goes. Maybe you didn't hear me. I gang eighty cents on the dollar for doing nothing I will wait for eleven and a half months, and then I will get a pig about what that actually comes out to even when you think about like gas and like Oh yeah, exactly. It's probably closer to ninety and you don't work xbox all day. You know like there's a real right incentives. Yeah. We. GotTa. Move On. Because it's going to be, that's still WANNA get to the media and black. Sure. Let's get the black lives matter. So what I'll segway with with with the way people quote their own stuff in black lives matter because in La, people like Oh yeah. you go out and protest and then there's spikes of course, and you're like, well, no wasn't happening on the beaches you were saying is ok before and the spikes didn't Happen York with our black lives matter protests you guys are still. Refusing to say because you never stop going to movie theaters well, quite possibly, but it also on the other end of it. If those fucking protests here in New York didn't lead to spiking numbers that to me. kind of indicates that the restriction should be over and we should go back to life as normal I mean if that isn't leading to spiking numbers, then don't tell me it's okay to go out and do. Something where it's like if you can do sidewalk service, do sidewalk service for the people who can't like Jim will figure out a way to handle that well but it's case by case how `Bout I mean look. Kind of like let people assess their own fucking risk and do what they wanNA fuck. Do let people had fucking freedom and you know what? They'll be some problems attached to it but there's way bigger problems attached to having some tiny little group of people called the state dictate what other supposedly free people can do now allstate with the black lives matter. And this is one thing that I think is like, I try to talk about this a lot. But I, it's really kind of crazy to me that people don't even see it. But this whole black lives matter mass protests slash riots slash craziness is all directly related to the lockdowns. I mean, it's more. People are like. Even that size almost not thank God but like luckily, it came out this time. So mad about this thing that we could shift that anger into this I guess you could say luckily or not. But the idea that you know people were just so angry about that George Floyd guy get Jewish boy killed in January none of this happened yes the I'm sorry the that's right and to even think like what is it just a coincidence that it had COPS have been killing people for focusing ever you know and there's always incidents video was tough but there's been brutal fucking videos of cops killing people before, and there's been incidents like this, and this led to not like one or two little protests to mass protests all around the world, and in some way I think that all around the country say and in some ways, I, think that was almost like a wakeup call to realize like, yeah, you know what? Society's fucking fragile like it's fragile and you fucking like you terrified people you can took their jobs away from them you took their. Sports, the bar, their friend's house everything kept them pent up for months and fucking in a state of anxiety anxiety over their their economic future anxiety over getting sick all these and then there was a fucking little sparse fucking married and then and this was the excuse to let it all out. All out. So I was dating a check and she her job was shitty shot an old mustang convertible with a tear on the top and it was it was like the shitty years of the Mustang. And it was just like their job was bad. Her career wasn't going that well, her car shitty and then she was like I gotta break up with you and I wanted to be like this is good that all's bad and you're putting all that shitting on on this but this visit the only good part of it right and it was like you can't separate. It's like I'm mad. But why it's like I don't know but you'll do has got to be somewhere to let it out what I mean. It's like if you can. Well, it's kind of like if you have like a fucking. Like a water or something filled with water and you pop a little hole well, there's the weak spot. That's where it's all coming out or if you're grieving over the six best Laker of all time, and then some comedian makes fun of then you'll let. My rage I don't really see that analogy I don't think he should have make fun of a dead Laker. That just seems like crossing the line. Believe and I don't even like dark humor. Really. Well, all right man. Edgy stuff. That's totally fair. that's why you're on Legion sharks. Business as we. Usually, catch Dave on his podcast part of the solution with Dave. Where they discussed great stuff about the world. Yeah that's me But so it did this thing blew up in A. Way And it had really the full backing. Of the establishment and when I say that I just mean that like the entire corporate press like kind of cheered on the black lives matter movement and politicians we're having like I. I'm not saying Mitt Romney was marching with black lives matter like even the like Standard Old Republican the NFL. On board sports academia Hollywood the entire establishment was with this movement, which is kind of an interesting dynamic is on the left in general where they always feel like they're anti-establishment but you kind of look around you like but who's the establishment? I. Maybe the First Year maybe twenty, thirteen, two, thousand, fourteen of what we did. This was like Oh Yay you vote for gay rights now. Because eighty percent of the population supports gay marriage but you voted against it when it was forty percent supportive. So it's like you don't really care you just doing and part of it's like politicians should follow the people said Yeah Okay but like you're saying that's your belief. Yeah and so your belief just matches with everybody else which also there's like for a lot of white people. It was like Oh shit I didn't I didn't know some of this stuff as bad. Yeah. I guess. So I just like. I mean look dude I'm like you know it's fair to reexamine things. Oh. Yeah. Absolutely, and I also like odd fucking always had major problems with the police I. Mean I just don't I don't believe in government at all and I think that there's a real problem the basic problem with government in general. Is that there a monopoly on violence to govern? So the government in general, it's a monopoly on legal violence. Say so like no one else can use violence legally now other people use violence. But if you do are consequences, you get in trouble for government has the monopoly on legal violence. So if you if you steal from somebody else you'd like you can go to jail for that. There's consequences of the government. The government can just tax they call it tax stealing and they can take whatever they want if you kill someone else you know. What taxi we need the roads on what the gun their tank. Give me anyway. Yeah. So sorry. Now of right. So it's not like it now if something you know it. Again. It's not like any other business, right? Any other interaction with anyone else besides the government it's voluntary interaction. So if you WANNA buy shirt you like I'll give you this money for this shirt and they can't be like well, no, we're going force you to pay for this tank. Also, you know just want the shirt or no deal. I don't need to get shirt I can get in somewhere else with the government everything's by force and the. It becomes a monopoly. So this is why you end up getting bad service in general because they fucking I mean like I don't know if I had some business and I could force you to pay me and there was no one else in the business of what I do. I probably wouldn't have great service because there's no reason look at any cable provider. Yes. Happily, breeds, shitty service. Now, the cops are the monopoly on the enforcement of the laws of the government. So there's a lot of fucking problems there you get I mean do they can do things that if anybody else did it would be like a heinous crime and I mean short forget even kill somebody just what they do every fucking day like if you just like stopped some car and like me and you and the two of other friends walked around with guns on our heads and just circled around him and SORTA like fucking intimidating I'm like that's a crime right? People. So they commit what Arkansas crimes by US normal people every day and they can harass people. They can essentially kidnapped people bring them into jail so so What does this? No I'm just saying in general I understand why people are pissed at cops right? I really like I have a lot of problems with I do a joke about sometimes we're on like a like tongue-in-cheek and like white people to get tickets well like. Shot by the cops see this is. The binary situation where it's like, it's all them hurt none of them, hurt. That's not quite like my friend. Scott Horton's really fucking brilliant guy editor at antiwar dot com. You're interested in him opportunity. He's like he's like a really bleeding-heart hot. Would you say? Do you have another one of these. Or is that. Some of that. So he's like a real bleeding heart libertarian really hates the cops hates the war on drugs really fucking hates you know he he does a lot like writes about like racist cops and Shit like that and he what he said about black lives matter was that they really fucked up by calling it black lives matter and kind of creating this kind of racial component to it that that was an. In its nature, GonNa pit people against each other and he would. He always said which I thought was kind of like it was really a good point was they should have called black lives matter accountability for killer cops and just pushed that and let someone try to argue with that. Here's what we stand for. We stand for one issue and one issue only accountability for killer cops and that really could've united a huge group of people behind it. And instead, they call it black lives matter which kind of almost suggests. To, some white people that it's not your problem. Then two other white people at suggests that will you would have no idea what this is like you know and it ended up being this kind of divisive thing unnecessarily. Joe Rogan, and I'm taking the Homeland Security One hun- Joe Rogan experience. I will take that and we now know what side you're on insecurity. Job. Yeah. If they called it anti killick up one of the big turning points for me what I saw was that dude in Buffalo. An older man looking guy. Got Pushed over cracked his skull open by some cops marching. And the back story is told US COPS anyone your way shove him over. We're just getting out of the way they were like put people on leave when they were told by superiors to that's what they're supposed to be doing. Like bleeding and he's fucked up forever. But when people saw that, then they could get behind fuck these cops who push people around fuck these cops who pushed my friend Monroe Martin around or someone like that. Instead of black people, it's about people what look that that white old man, a bunch of white people go I can get involved there fucking with everybody yes. We'll look I mean the truth is that right? If you actually look at it, there's about twice as many white people get killed by the cops. Every year is black people. Black people are only thirteen percent of the population. So it's If, you just look at in terms of the population, its disproportionate to black people, but it's still is happening twice as much to white people, and then you have to take into account other factors like there's more police interactions in high crime areas a lot of those up being black areas like there's several factors but the point is this is not something exclusively happening to black people. Now, I certainly understand from some black people's perspective given the history of this country in cops really fucked them over a lot where they would feel this kind of like Oh and what a coincidence were. Disproportionately being fucked over again, but it just seems to me to unnecess-. It's unnecessary and inaccurate and unhelpful to make the central issue of this race. The central issue is that someone got their fucking rights violated by the COPS. This was a fucked up thing to happen. There are videos of cops doing horrific things to fucking white people and to me instead of like lecturing white people about how you don't know how bad black people have it. I'd say if you wanted like strategically show them those videos and go look they'll do the same shit that the methodology is is it doesn't get. The Anti Rape Jokes you know it's like I wanna be like look I, understand what you're saying but you have to understand. Your tactics are not resulting in less raise your taxes resulting in more rape jokes so like I don't care but you do care. That's why you're talking about aiming to care. So like so like let's work on your tactics. Looks at trump's fucking idiot is not going to get trump supporter, and also that maybe they're not an idiot well, there's that like maybe they're not an idiot it's like maybe they're responding to something that you're not thinking and maybe they're right. Maybe you're wrong it's like Ju Jews support trump because he's good for Israel, their single voter, single issue voters and you want to be like you're like nats not that. I don't care about abortion I don't care about any of this stuff just who's better Israel right? Well, there's a certain percentage of Jews you do that. It's not that much. I, know I know. Ones or whatever but but like you know. I it just. The the black lives matter the organization, right which is different like not. Not everyone marching in the streets of member of this organization. In fact, the vast vast majority are not but the organization is like this really crazy straight up like Marxist, organization and if you go to their website, it's like they have like these like it's like forget how many like ten or fifteen bullet points of what they. Like the first two you'd like me and you would totally be for like the first two accountability for killer cops like and the war on drugs you know and you'd be like, yeah, I'm with you and then it goes off into some goofy shit like it's like abolish the nuclear family protect plant life like it was like wild weird crazy leftist shit that like most people are not on board with. And their those people have an influence over the movement you know, and then there's like there's people who are like sick of fuck police brutality in the movement, and then there's people like just wanted to get outside and do something and be a part of 'cause. Then there's the people who want virtue signal, and then there's was the fucking violent people and that's been a real fucking problem too and it's ended up like the violence. The violence has really ended up coloring this movement. Because you can't you can't ignore it. There's been far too much of that to just go like the violent protests. The the media forever was like they're largely peaceful protests. This isn't happening. It's fine. It's not a problem and then even Joe Biden and had to come out and give a speech about it and be like guys. The violence is really big problem you have to stop doing it, but it's all trump's fault but the violence is really i. mean there's a bike shop in my neighborhood small bike shop before this happened, I was a bike to go you know get around. I didn't WanNA touch the city bikes you know when I thought that's how you get it was signers door. and Said You guys got everything last night I have nothing left I don't have insurance You hit me hard. And it just like fuck like I didn't do anything I wasn't shooting anybody talking horrible man and this, and that's happened all around The fucking country I mean there's been these areas they've been fucking destroy dude is a missile that was talking just think is a misconception though that it was like. In some people's minds black lives matter as a movement decided we're GonNa go a riot. When the reality is. Just, White Dude from the suburbs I think they're Luton let's go get us to shows surfboard or or the white chick rental and black. Absolutely. But I'm saying it's people like we're not doing this for the 'cause we're doing this because there's looting. Yeah well I also yeah I don't get it I don't disagree with you completely I, mean there's there's a lot of that. The thing is when you have a thing that's what makes you part of black. Lives matter the movement You say black lives matter and you go join one of the marches. So it's hard to judge the thing I mean is that technically black lives matter I don't know but they are graffiti in black lives matter over the place as they destroyed the fucking in store they are screaming black lives matter as they soccer kicks some old man on the ground. So they'll listen I I'm not saying there's a lot of peaceful protesters. To, but there's a lot of that should going on. It's not like okay. There's a march of one, hundred, thousand people and to people got into a fistfight and now I'm trying to paint the whole thing is this fistfight I'm saying that every single night in cities across the country, these things are turning violent. There's fucking violence in Portland going on right now still. Yeah this is it's been like fucking sixty days of fucking riots going on throughout the. Country that is that is a problem and if you're going to talk about black lives, matter it, you can't remove that from it. You know what? I mean look if something order but it's almost like where do you put your focus? Dude if someone said if they were talking about the alt-right united right rally in Charlottesville and they go oh, my God but there was this fucking violence this chick got killed. There was all these people saying the US and you ask your only judging it by the people who did that? There was also these people. The Real alt-right are the people who who just didn't want the statue torn down. It's like well, now I'm sorry that should as part of your car and our control, your people well, then you have to stop if it's getting this bad. Then you have to stop and regroup because fucked up but that's really just a car garage was fucked up. All the police brutality is like that doesn't make it. Okay. What happened to this guy at the bike store? Okay. There's been fucking dozens of murders in these fucking riots dude got to create this thing like a person got killed four others got killed to try to say that killing was wrong visit more at this point there was four just in fucking like in Seattle I mean there's there's this is like an well, we're talking about is really the. And not the cause right the protests were handled, and also by the way, this also goes back to what I was saying American sports people are dumb for the most American feminists are dumb American like nationalists Saddam We're not talking about Cornell West being out there deciding how to do protest. We're talking about somebody who is not educated on how to do it is like all. Let's get a target. You should be making this shore. What look I thought. We did kind of talk about the causes. I mean as I see it, it's like the 'cause are essentially the the causes were really the lockdowns and the fuck. In fact, there's a lot of hostility towards police because you basically have this supposed security force that is. Imposed on you, you don't have a choice whether they're your security force or not. If you don't like the job they're doing you have no recourse. They fucking go around fucking policing for profit arresting people for Bullshit, and in many cases. Like assaulting and sometimes even killing people and often with impunity will often get away with it. So people were furious about this and they were up from the lockdowns and it exploded in this energy, but it's it's largely been very destructive and they've really I think blown it. I think they had a fucking great. Deal you need real stay real peace. So is a guy who just fired actually apply pay a political analyst for the left. where we got time was at seven now. Thirty five minutes forty minutes and he quoted a an article from the Nixon era and saying the best way to get something from your cause is to he he he just analyze this other guy from knicks there the new guy quoted and he was like really sought after his autistic level of fucking breaking down statistics and everything the best way to get your causes different ways to get it one of the worst ways to be violent with nothing. In return, one of the best ways to have complete peace that is with violence Kent State nobody took the other side of the state. Sure. Absolutely and people like all do, and it got a lot of change US going and they said that in the Nixon Times some of the violent protests actually swayed two percent of Democratic voters towards Republican. So the result was. Fired him because the outrage was how dare you tell us how to react to this I'm not I'm just telling you what resulted. I'm just quoting stats. Now is a job that he's not allowed to say where he works Jeez 'cause they'll come after it again which is another thing I'd love to get into but. So anyway the point is the best way to get your. If you did want to run it correctly if you go back to you know mid may or whenever it was like hey. So here's how we're all going to do it. Yes, it would be like. In your pocket years the thing right as somebody who like I really fucking hate the police state in America I hate the fucking war on drugs I. Fucking hate the attitude that that. So many fucking cops have as they enforce these bullshit rules and just ruined people's lives I hate the folk and militarization of the police and how they all of these fucking. You know like toys from the Defense Department and Shit and I just I think there's like a huge problem there and you had a situation where right-wingers in America one of the first time in my life we're getting. Really fucking furious with the cops because the right wingers were pretty much on the side of open everything up and they're being locked down and guess who's enforcing the lockdowns. It's the fucking cops. The cops are the ones who are shutting their businesses down the cops are the ones who are forcing this shit. You know they're the ones and they're like holy shit the government's infringing on the Constitution and all this and the police are supporting him and then you add this video of the fucking George Floyd thing. But this cop sitting on this black guys next when video it's like. You know hands handcuffed face down on the fucking ground just sitting there for nine fucking minutes very seemingly callous way and I'll tell you my my my stepfather. Excuse me my father-in-law who's like a he's like a Republican like, Fox News watching trump support supporter you know kind of typical Republican father-in-law and he told me remember talking on the day after the George Floyd video came out and he goes that cop and all of the cops there should have been put in handcuffs on television they should all be tried for murderer accessory to murder like I think there were a lot of republican leaning. The WHO were like a fuck that they you really actually had an opportunity to unite people around this message and get some traction going, and then when they see fucking mass riots, looting assaults, murders, you know what? All those fucking Fox News watching right winger said if it wasn't for the cops like they're the only thing that stands between us and miss. So the cops better crackdown on this shit and you know what I get where they're coming from and I'm somebody who's not a fan of fucking cops. But I get where if you see people talking destroying a city, you go I want the cops to stop this. If a white chick throws a she threw a Molotov cocktail into a police van didn't go off with four people in there for cops in there and it's like, yeah, they're going to arrest her and they didn't show probably never got out of jail. They let her you know they let not her excuse me but they let the mob and this is part of the reason why I fucking hate the cops right is that. You'd see like they bring this violence to the peaceful protests. They'd spray they'd fucking tear gas and pepper what's rubber bullets shoot into them and shit, and then when they're be violent mobs, they pretty much stand down and let them fucking do what they WANNA do. It almost seemed like the same macy's it almost seemed like the Zuccotti Park where they were like remember the stories of like cops going on covered starting fights so Officer in in uniform going hey, they're big violent. We got to break it up. Seeming to some shady shit going on with that. Were but I've seen at this point because it's been going on for so long. I mean I've seen hundreds of videos of this shit and. Say Some of the people in these videos during the violence. Thank cops by these. These are the. The cops destroying their own cars cop cars so they could like look I'm sure there are examples of stuff like that and what is that happened? Well, because this look if the whole country's getting pissed off at Copse, what's happened here is the best thing that could happen for them because people see this most normal people see that shit and they go I think that should be stopped. Better wet what's a better way to slow down the disproportionate a number percentage of abuse towards? People of color versus white people, and it's not just well, it's in these neighborhoods. But the result is if you're a cop who's in a mostly black mostly poor neighborhood, you start to be like these fucking blacks well, shore and I mean and then you take out on somebody who's like I'm just going to school you can't not even the shootings I mean just like the member stop and Frisk. And it was like it's actually doing his job, right? It's actually getting less violence, but there's some Latino guy who's just like I never committed a crime and I stopped all the time. It makes it feel like second-class citizens. Well, you got to be really honest about what's like fucking going on and that's tough to do nowadays because you're getting called every name in the book if you are especially if you're a white. Guy, who's GonNa be try to be honest about what's going on but like I don't really give a shit about that because I've already called those names and it doesn't really have much of an effect on me but so I think what's going on here right is that if you're gonNA talk about this shit, I just think that there's no way to honestly talk about it with that outgoing well look here's the situation, right? There's a violence problem amongst police. There's also a violence problem amongst black men in America today, and this is just Undeniable like a black men you know if you WanNa talk about disproportionate, you're talking about. If you WANNA talk about disproportionate violence happening to black men from police I can already see hearing that the liberal side. Oh. You think all black when a violent and you're like, he's not saying that. But again, you're just playing the same game. The COP defenders play Rigo. Well, it's just a few bad apples or whatever like that. It's like, no one's talking about if you can talk about disproportionate violence from cops have Muslims, right. If you can talk about that, you're not seeing all cops you're saying that the numbers the large trend is this will then you also have to look at the violent crime that's being committed by black men particularly in these high crime areas and what happens is that yeah, I think anybody who's in charge of. Dealing with that crime, if there's one group of people who you see over and over again, committing these crimes you start to you know just a natural human tendency that you're going to start looking at those people as the ones who you suspect to be criminal now that again, like you said before that really still sucks for the Black Guy who's not a fucking violent criminal and there's lots of those lots more than violent criminals so like it's a complicated problem but what you would wanna did to me dummies like I know the answer. To burn depth, right well, if you would WanNa do if you were black lives matter to me is you would want to number one. Like kind of what we were saying before like you'd want to not create an environment that's GonNa turn a lot of people off from what it is you're doing. So we want to do is like look I don't even think again. You should make the central issue race because by the way it really isn't. It seems like all lives matter almost better slogan for them to get everyone to be. Our lives matter but something like that. Yeah. Well, the the whole. Just such a stupid argument, I. Down to a Hashtag it's so you can have volumes written on an issue you boil down to a Hashtag. It's like, of course, is not going to tell the whole story is going to be misleading all cops are bastards like I'm not about we don't mean that like sounds like you mean. Basser from cop you're saying like, no one not. It's very confusing. Those stupid like I think it was stupid to call it black lives matter I think it's stupid to say all lives matter as dismissed of black lives matter I. Think it's stupid for black lives matter to then say, no, fuck you all. It's black lives matter like every one of you could handle this better at every single step. So black lives matter could have just call themselves accountability for killer cops and not. made it a racial issue. Then the people if you do call it black lives matter the people who go all lives matter could just not say they just say I agree that black lives matter you know and then black lives matter in response to all lives matter instead of getting offended could go absolutely of course, all lives matter and that's why black lives it doesn't need to be a dumb fight over hashtags. So this might. For. Anyone and the truth is people don't like fucking hearing this. There isn't really any evidence strong evidence to suggest that the killing of George Floyd was racially motivated the guy. I don't even fucking no I don't know whether that's true or not. I'm just saying there's no reason to suspect that this was racially motivated. It was a cop and a guy he was trying to arrest who fucking on drugs and being weird and was a whole fucking thing but he's still didn't need a fucking put him in handcuffs on the ground and put his knee on his neck for nine minutes, and that's inexcusable and so like fucking that guy needs to fucking be tried which is going to be. But you know about the White Guy who This Guy Florida thirty six. Hours at his neck. At twenty eighteen arrests. what's his name? Comparison. George Floyd. Timothy Kaufman. something like eighteen minutes white guy video, same sort of thing and you haven't heard about it. Well, that's the thing. Is that two thousand, eighteen lake look even this thing there was this a it's not to say like to Discount Floyd think it's more to your point where these guys these people are taking too much power. This is the issue he is under control even if you're gonNA arrest. Them. That George Floor Guy has been subdued put the cuffs on him. Yes and get him into the car. That's your job. You don't get to be focused and there's something elicit your vengeance recycling machine or maybe there's a Okasan where he's like I'm a huge Skye fucked me. I want to a couple of shots look I know but we're trusting you with a gun so you can't give them a couple of shots. Your whole home gotTa have no emotion. That's the whole job is to not be that guy that's literally what the job is supposed to be. You're supposed to be a peace officer that's what we should. Have and so anyway, what you should do if you're black lives matters number one, do a really good job of do your absolute best to police the violence and call it out loudly against it don't pretend it's not focused existing be against and if it gets violent, stop stop protesting were stopping because people are taking advantage of this because now whether you like it or not your kind of giving cover for the people who are going to be coming around, it's hurting your cause. So stop what you WanNa do is stick to the core issue of police brutality don't go in the direction that they went in which. They fucking do which is so fucking infuriating right is that they go. Because they are not all Marxists, but they're largely led an organized by core leftists a lot of Marxist and so they've got all these goofy fucking views. So they said in Minneapolis right where they've actually moved to like really slash the police budget and get all this shit going and they had They were meeting with community leaders and someone like the black lives matter activists, and they said that they want them to stop referring to it as police brutality and start referring to it as stemming racism. And I was like see that's the fucking EXAC- takes that takes out his coming shattuck's at this case from. where it's like well, he's white this. So that wouldn't counters about this is what they start doing. So instead of going, okay, WE'RE GONNA take racism out of it and called this accountability for killer cops and actually try to make movement and get something tangible done. Okay. Instead they go. We're protesting racism and we're just going to call it systemic racism. So now you make it the broadest most undefinable buzzword that could mean anything and basically is telling all white people that you're guilty for everything. The problem isn't you see that there was this killer cop the problem is that like white people, hearts and minds are in the wrong thing, which is the original center can never be changed, and by the way, if you go look into critical race theory, which is basically the academic philosophy behind woke ism this is what they believe. They believe that everything's white supremacy. That's the problem with everything like it's really this is real shit. But go if you go read critical race theory does become. POSTMODERNISM has become crazy because I was having everything's discussion. Everything is we're in charge the nuclear family that's white supremacy capitalism. That's why it's the premacy the meritocracy. That's why it's supremacy having a conversation about this is also white supremacy like this is what they believe, and this is this destroys any chance of getting anything done because now you're just fighting and then what ends up happening right and this is a real. You can't even quote. So I can't even quote a female professor to feminist because I'm the one saying yet, but I might, but I learned so I can't even learn more comes from post modernists. Their views are so goddamn. Goofy. I'm not exaggerating this sounds like making it up if you've ever heard this but go look into it, it's real logic doesn't exist. The fact that you're making an argument at all is just trying to protect power. That's what they believe. They don't believe in objective reality. They don't believe in logic. They don't believe in any any tour for white guy a white guy were to say. Black. People only have been hurt by cops. No one else has been hurt by cops. That is also why because we're the one saying it it doesn't. It's as an to them. It's there's no such thing as the truth which is. It just doesn't matter so they can use it a and look here's the thing that I think people should like really like focus on. Okay. There's a reason and some people might want to ask themselves like why do you think it is that this woke Shet is so dominant like why is it? We ask like like I almost want to ask some of the hardcore left wing activists you go. Why do you think it is if your if what you think right is that this whole system is white supremacy and you're taking down the system. Why does the system love you so much? Why does the entire Corporate Press Love Woke Ism why does the entire political establishment short of trump and a few exceptions love woke him. Why does professional sports why these big corporations behind you? Why is Hollywood behind you? Like why would they all be agreeing with you? If you were a threat to the system that's made them so wealthy and here's the thing they fucking Love Woke Ism for this very basic reason. Okay. It's basically they are way of buying off the left which they think is the biggest threat to them and probably is. If your. Look, look how they reacted when fucking Bernie Sanders look like he was going to win the nomination both in two thousand, sixteen and Twenty Twenty freaked the fuck out because this wasn't a woke guy this was an economic socialist. He wasn't coming out there saying I want you to apologize for your white privilege. He was saying I want your money. He big corporations I want now if you were just talking about prison reform and not just like well, that's the same way. But that's the same thing. It's fucking with their money. This is what they make money from. He's talking about fucking really I, want your he was like, well, how do we get it so that less black people are in these poor communities how do we help the pork? Not targeted. He really hated about the private. Prison systems people are profiting off of this, Shit. So the more. In general, he doesn't like profits. Now that's a fucking threat to a big corporation. He'll like prophets holy shit profits are kind of our game by the way. Don't even I'm not a fucking left wing socialist I have no problem with profits I'm just saying if you were a big banker or fucking the you know some huge corporation or the? Corporate. Presser Hollywood or any of these types of people who's the big threat to you was much as I'd love it to be anarchists, Libertarians like me there's not too many of us. So it's not really us the big threat to you is the left who fucking doesn't really like rich people don't really think there should be multimillionaires when other people are poor. So, what they love about woke, ISM is they don't have to give up any of their fucking money or power or anything all they have to JP submit fault Morgan Chase is like, Hey, we're sending all of our white exists to diversity training. Because now they can go. Okay. So we bought off the left we bought you off and now we don't have to give shit. We get to keep our record high profits but hey, we'll put blm on a fucking billboard the left the left is the party of the gesture is something wasn't well, this is how they've been able to corrupt the left. It's kind of a right wing takeover of a left-wing cause and the. Left is should be able to see this like J. P. Morgan chases and supposed to be on your team mother fucker like none of these people are supposed to be on your team. Why do you think they are because they're not giving you anything real and when you say don't call it police brutality, call it systemic racism. Well, guess what you're not going to male police brutality but guess what you'll get no more aunt Jemima. Congratulations you forget now changed the name of this thing from stature. Some guy you've ever heard about that you found out later was a slave owner and then like well now it's down. I didn't care about ago and I cared about yesterday. He's now no longer a problem I was talking to this dude fucking. Today on the phone he's fucking great dude. He's like Philly. Dude. Libertarian is this black dude and he runs like a pro second amendment like blow for black people it's called black guns matter really smart dude and we were talking on the phone was really making me laugh but he was like, Dude, can I tell you how much? I don't care about statues like he goes he goes I got friends. In jail man couldn't do anything violent like I got friends in jail for weed I got friends in jail for coke like they were just selling a little bit of drugs into anything. Finally he goes can I have two of my friends back if get two of my friends back, I'll build a statue of a slave owner like I don't care about statutes as there's something about it really made me laugh. See that's the fucking issue. Right there is that if you make it broad, then it's easy to throw you token gestures that mean nothing. There was two things that Kamala Harris over time covert and and black lives matter turn Kovic goes at. Once we get to I think one, hundred, thousand deaths started fight over it. I think we should fly the flag at half mast and the the the right wing like no, we only find a fly at half-mast during a war during or whatever, and so then it's a fight so she can say on the right side of it you don't care about Kobe victims and it's like shut the fuck up and get a cure. Or. Some more testing and the other one was, let's all dressing DASHIKIS. For the black lives matter on the floor of Congress? Do you remember that it's like three black senators and it's like they got dressed in African guard by the WAY NOT AMERICAN GARB? Yeah African garb and. They should put on fucking Lakers jerseys or even just like crisscross. Gesture instead of actually in the place of actually doing anything and the people that support them like sweet. You made the gesture and if someone else is actually helping you but doesn't make the gesture. We don't like that right, and then nobody can even have an honest conversation can't have an honest conversation other thing that they can love and this is part of the reason why it's spread so much that establishment loves the rules of like you can't step out of bounds and say the wrong thing or you get ruined they love that rulers always love. that. Rulers also love pitting people against each other and convincing them to rat on each other. We like that that's like a big. That's a big fucking thing that like Authoritarians us because if you guys are all fighting each other and pissed off against each other, then you don't really look up and see who's really screwing you over which are the people ruling. Over the top time. So if you can you know and then if you're afraid to ever step out of line and say something that like is unpopular than you know, no one's ever going to really question you. So it's like this perfect fucking situation situation and that's why they love this shit. So they can buy you off with gestures and you get. Nothing one of my favorite things was all the people posting the black squares and a lot of those people then like on someone's radar. So it's like let's look into this guy's past. He posted that he protects his supports us and it turns out eighteen years ago you had a black friend grade school and you didn't invite him to your Bush party. Or whatever it is or is even something serious but it's like it almost put targeted everybody just to even be part of it. Here's something I want to get involved in two more things that we gotta do. All right what do we got here at seven twenty? Forty minutes. We. Are More divided than we've ever been in this country. Need to know why and then I feel like we gotta get to this fucking trump trump, Harris. Yeah. Biden Shit. All right. Maybe we'll have to add a little bit this real. It's fucking figure it out. Well okay. So. Violent we can leave till next time. Cunanan can leave but like Things we fucking gets. Okay. So Julian assange Sobe Jalen, a year. Well if he's alive and he's he's not doing well Okay. So we're more divided than average throats over stuff where you're on in our lifetimes, I've never seen it. Civil war in this country at one point. So that's pretty divided. Sort of it was north for south. If there was today, the south would bid each other's throats and the North Bay show this. There is the thing about it is rate is the how dare you fellow Liberal New Yorker not be as liberal and new. Yorkers. I am yeah. Well, it is There's there's no question it's It's gotten really really bad and this is I wish people would like. Would think some of this shit through I mean. I don't know if you've seen out in Portland where they've had like these kind of like it's like militias kind of facing off against each other and they're almost playing like pretend civil war I mean not exert. It's not exactly a civil war but they're kind of flirting like they're playing footsie with a civil war. You know what I mean on your like is this is a really fucking dangerous game to play like this is no joke and this is not something any of you want and I think a lot of them don't even realize like it's it's like you you don't. Like a lot of these people you have not seen war and you don't want to like you don't fuck and it. I think even some of these like left-wing Antifa types like you see them when they actually get into these brawls college of it'll almost be like when it comes to it and there's been going on for years you know. But like when it comes to an actual fight, I'll see these things where there's like some the hey, hey, man yeah and you're like, dude, what did you think your plan pretend like you're literally you're putting on a black and ski mask and you're holding baton and you're going out at someone and then when a fight starts, you're like Oh dude that. Guy Arche Watson Guy with outside his car with baseball bats was that his name Eric Weinstein. Was the the professor get out of your car like what are you? GonNa do that Bat fucking liberal arts major like Oh what are you gonNa do with that what are you hoping like I know this seems like your care but what are you gonNa do with that that Hit Me. It's very, and then some of them do it as learn to somebody feel like everyone's looking at me better and then throw Molotov cocktail to a police van. It's a very, very dangerous game and I think that this has been this year has been a real kind of like it's a like a a gut check kind of thing for the country like man were really were sliding down this path and everybody can see it and going like. So do you want this like can't you know? I don't I'm not like a guy like who believes in unity if that makes sense I, don't think we all have to be one and I. think that sometimes really bad things happen when we're all one, you know like there's no. There's no art though while the war in Iraq was really popular, you know what? I mean everyone came together and said Whoever Eric Are GonNA fucking pay very people were like. You might not have been four, but very people like don't do that. Syria, we were like, don't you know but but a initially like there was very popular like a majority of people supported that. so that's necessarily good but you can be divided in different ways like you can be divided in a way where you can peacefully coexist it doesn't have to be. We don't have to be at each other's throats. And like you can, you don't have to be at war with each other we all right and and part of the reason why we are is because it's all it's an election year and it's all about who's going to control the fucking government at the end of this and fucking the other people are going to be ruled over by them and it's part of it is is because The system is unraveling and part of it is because of a social media and things like that like there's lots of different a lot of it as this. Yeah I so I think a lot of it is. People feeling that their opinion matters more because they have twenty five dollars. So you feel like people have follow me in my opinion matters and I'm not looking to change my opinion because it's called backtracking and so. You make an opinion and then you have to stick with it and you find value in the opinion you made already and then it's like fuck everyone else who's not this and also this algorithm we can walk talking and this algorithm lets you only see the people who care about. So when you go out to where you live I saw trump banner you will get vandalized if you had one here. Yeah. So People here can't understand that anyone is like that. If you just go thirty minutes outside people, I can understand how people can live here. We don't see the other side anymore Colin Quinn and his last I saw his last thing he goes it used to be going to bar you're talking someone. I bet you one of those guys against Gun control aren't you and the bucket hers factor I am and he goes it used to be like. Let's have a drink. Yeah. We don't have that anymore like fuck this guy forever. See on this issue. Yeah. No. That definitely, very distressing country I mean I noticed that like just in my own. Life. And comedy, and that is really changed since since I started where it used to be kind of like even like a, you know like the person you mentioned before like years ago you know. So it would be kind of interested in what I thought would ask me Cooper thought kind of new kind of knew that I knew a lot about politics I would go. So what do you think about what a valuable source? You kind of know I may not agree with you. You'll probably have an interesting perspective on this. What do you think? I'd say something kind of all right as you know, but it wasn't like we have to hate each other now it's like we fucking hate each other like an I don't WanNa fucking hate her but it's like she's like on the fucking evil person people have to be put into these camps. You know like your in this camp and that's the enemy camp you'll know real campus a concentration. Well. That's well, but you know humans can be putting is to. Call Right now. I find myself falling prey to it also does me right I do not tell us you. Just realize I took a Supposed, I mostly don't dose. Almost all the drink poor to the mostly. To Drake's. Thousands of drinks only to have been non DOSA. Really. I'm a guy who doesn't dose almost consistently. But I find myself I'm like other voted for trump. Let's say and I live in this bubble here right hard on me even I know better. You probably know there's like acidic. jus. I only voted for him for Israel. But if I hear about some, I don't know it from immediately. Go he put all these things on that person that aren't even true well, and I'm like, what am I falling into or four? They just read different news stories than I did. Yeah. But a lot of it's like look it's I'm not saying like the social media stuff and people having a following I'm not saying that doesn't have a major factor, but I also do feel like this shit is being. Pushed pushed pushed by by the corporate press like all over the place it's being pushed in universities. It really is pushed on people the idea that you that those people over there who don't agree with you don't agree with you because you're there evil evil because they a straw you and that it's not something that we just have a conversation about it's not this Jim is going out of business looked. So it's not just I. Don't care about human life it's I do but also I'm going out of business rates like can we talk human life? Also I care about what's happening to this? Can we talk? We cannot the world now is no, we cannot talk your fucking ass. During lockdown. But even before that nor McDonald's said whatever he said about Rosanna love like, hey, they're humans and I fucking. Whatever the bill you're right all this shit was there but he was he was trying to go on the tonight show and they said cancel night you. Don't WanNa, hold them to the fire right now and say explain yourself nope. No. We'd rather say fuck you get away. They'd rather cancel him and this would. So all of this stuff was there and then real crisis head this year and it all got dialed up any kind of get exposed. You know it's kind of like if you to use almost the virus analogy but if you're a very unhealthy and then you get a virus will now all that shit is exposed and it fucking that's what ends up killing you wrote. So if you look look even like the The during the lockdown going to say that thing like Oh, you just WanNa, get a haircut. Thing. It's like, Oh, the people it's like Oh. So you'd rather grandma dies so you can get a haircut nearly now I don't want that idiot talking about getting a haircut I'm talking about what I said before I'm talking about the guy who's got three kids and fucking just lost his job and his terrified of how he's going to pay for that. That's what I'm talking about. So make it this bullshit and all that bullshit look. There's a real thing where the like. Part of the reason why people are so Like I don't know. I don't know if there's been polling on this or not. But I bet if you were to ask people if you were to poll people do black people get shot do black people get killed by the police more than white people a large percentage of people say, yes. Even though it's not the case and actually twice as many white people get killed by black people now. The disproportionality thing that's if the other way would to with people do most protest hundred riots also get a way higher percentage of the Yes. But Charlotte. But the point I'm making is that will what, why is it that people would think that more black people are getting killed by the cops than white people will part of it is because those are the ones that get media attention they love to push the narrative when it's something that's going to pit people against each other and inflame racial tensions now, they now listen even. If you'RE GONNA argue which is a fair point. There's a lot there. But if you're going to argue black people are disproportionately killed to their, you know population size but cops fine but it happens twice as much to white people. So you would think you would hear about it twice as much happening to white people but that but it's meals on his neck when I don't know. On his life for nine so That you never hear stories about this and the press and you know. And I think a lot of that's because they they like I was saying with the woke they like being racial issue if they showed the black people getting killed and then showed the white people getting killed, that would be much more likely that black people and white people with join together and go hey, fuck the cops. But instead of that, they make it a white versus black or left verse right thing and so they're not saying it's happening some to some degree organically but it's also like people being manipulated like to kind of push people against each strange thing where people like can you help me out? Tell you what we're going to walk and talk. Just, three more minutes. Then we're just GONNA walk and keep going off it. Just audio. that. There's this thing that happens where it's like. Your grandfather was. Oriental guy moved to the next me. Now you have two options at that point you could say, Hey, GRANDPA. Got It. It's actually Asian. Now, the Oriental has I don't know where kind of like Negro has become a bad term when it was a great term. What what I was young I know do but it's not just like trying to people were literally get really mad at you. Yeah. So just say Asian. All. All right. I'll do my best. Okay. Great. Or the other option is my grandfather's a racist well I guess there's one guy can cut out of my life. And we had this thing. Where you just say Roy is ago at its by gram he's always not going to change like whatever. So like so like. Where we have this feeling now in in America, I don't know about other countries like I wanna feel better than someone you don't. So I don't want to change the world and make it a better place. I WanNa feel good about myself and well I feel good is that you are not equal to me. You are racist you're misogynous and if you're not racist misogynist, then where's my power? Yeah. Well, look I think that a lot of this comes from like fucking education system in this country just being an absolute failure and. It's much easier for people who aren't educated and are dumb because you don't have to know anything in order to be outraged over someone for saying the wrong word. You know what I mean like you the that's one of the benefits of it. You're not to know anything you can, and that's like the person we were about before are to that. You don't that. This is what's Great. You don't you don't have to know anything and you still get to be morally superior and you don't even have to crack a book like. That but I also think that I think that a lot of things in America in the American system are spinning out and I, mean, before all of this this year and the cultural earned the culture war and all that shit I mean the fucking. Like the wars that we can't win the budget that we can't balance the borders that we can't control SA-. fucking. So many things and so it's like well, they're getting pretty worried that there are these uprisings against the establishment and there's been a lot. Over the last say like ten fifteen years, there's been a lot. Of. Were those huge antiwar protests under George W? Bush there was the occupy movement. There was a team party movement Black Lives Matter Movement there was Ron Paul's campaigns Bernie Sanders like, hey, you guys ain't fucking doing it. Trump is the president you know there's a lot of anti styled. So what would you maybe want to do if you were one of the ruling elite? GonNa fight him fighting each other. So this Is Right and reach. You could hate your neighbour and you could fight your neighbor and you could maybe even beat you're going to walk the CEO of chase or the fucking. United. States fucking. You're probably not getting that. There's some I know you don't care that much for Alexandra but like I don't think that's a person I used to not. have. I don't know but I did not care for that. Much. I was also getting truth from the media headlines some she said really got me when it was mid-may early May something like that and they're like, Hey, we've got to get people back to work. That's our goal. Here is peeled back work and then she goes no no, no, no you guys. Got It. Wrong. We're not supposed to go back to working sixty hours a week to barely getting by was a review the system. So we can enjoy our lives. We can spend time with our family and friends and we can look normal amount. You guys are trying to banner system that has not represented us for a long time. And I'm like, Yeah Lady. that. On there is there is definitely something to that and then of course the question becomes like okay well, what adjust point just that point Is reasonable and yeah I think that there's A. That, there's definitely something to that, and there's something to the fact that Americans. You know a lot of Americans today despite all the the economic growth and all the technological advancement are in a situation where they're struggling to meet these very basic costs of housing healthcare educate you two years ago on this podcast union where it's like when I grew up when you grew up was a single parent worked and we had this level of wealth right here, and now both parents work in almost every household and we have this level of wealth well. Is going on. Have we have a lot more wealth and I don't WanNa like this level is represented right? Because we are much wealthier in depending on how you measure wealth but we're we're much more. We have much better stuff. iphones a better than get phones and our TV's are better. A refrigerators are better like our cars are better. There are better things. Okay. That massive TV, there is no longer three, thousand dollars. It's two hundred and fifty bucks. Yes. So I can only afford to a dollar thing and we're doubling up the work. But the other thing is that like you? Very basic cost. So when my grandfather worked in my grandmother was like stayed at home and raise the kids, there was never a concert like he owned a house, he sent his kids to college I mean actually my mother paid for college, but you could do it with a summer job wasn't a big expense health insurance things like this were not concerned because even when they didn't have health insurance, you know medical costs warned that right right now these very basic costs are through the roof. Now, I would blame all of this on the federal, reserve and inflation and how they've been. Okay. But. There's no question something's off there and so yes, I do agree that most Americans and this is what the fucking Democrat establishment doesn't get. They think trump's just the aberration and if we could just go back to buy and then everything goes back to normal because the only problem was these last four years but the truth is that's not the issue. The fucking issue was something much much deeper than that. That bubbled up people elected, Barack? Obama because they thought he was going to be a change agent and he wasn't hope turned and yeah and they didn't get that out of. The DNC we'll talk about the politics and the way to stand. Democratic national. Convention. Michelle Obama spoke. She was speaking about how we have to defeat trump that seems like politics drove me crazy and she goes and I don't know we can say it together. But like she was like listen, he's an awful man. He's literally separating families in the border people in cages, and then the AP not a not a weird source, Associated Press which is doesn't seen a bias. I. Don't really know enough about them. They seem like they're just the press had to do a correction and they go your Austin Built House and put them into play. Yeah. It wasn't trump started. Does your husband built? Oh well, that's right and they love to like kind of morally grandson I mean her fucking husband literally should be tried for war crimes and convicted her party. Oh this guy so we will but I gotta say just on the more cultural shit. The thing that drove me crazy about Michelle Obama's speech that just really really bothered me and I think it kind of touches on the same thing as the the celebrity. we're all in this together. It's like this is the thing in America. It's like the fucking elites like. Michelle Obama gets up there and talking about how racist the country is, and then she goes now I know a lot of people won't like what I'm saying I mean after all I'm a black woman. So she immediately goes Oh if you don't like what I'm saying well, here's why because you're racist sexist and you literally you like talking to this country about. How racist they are they elected your husband twice okay. You're worth fifty million for example, how it's not right your broadcasting from Your mar-a-lago like twenty million dollar home and you're sitting you're telling the country reasons. This country has made you humongous success and into get on here and who are you talking to you talking to some guy who's like a trucker who makes? Oh. I. Know You may not like what I'm saying because you're just this person and I'm black woman so and it's like man fuck you like fuck you and fuck your husband for fucking destroying Syria Libya and Yemen tell me about the kids and focus. At the fucking facilities he built. For it is party God. It's really just hard and like how do you expect people to like listen? How are we going to get involved in this? It's like if You even care. Yeah it's like how like and then like the people and trump apart of the trump phenomenon is a big reaction. It's like people are so fucking sick. It's like Joe Pesci. Tough guy you're not actually a mafioso you're an actor right? You're theater FAG yes. You're not a tough guy. Yeah I mean. I don't know I, just like I think there's something about that. That people are really upset about in the country is like the idea that they're like the idea that you're being lectured to by some multimillionaire in Hollywood about what you need to do how you need you need to suck it up and you need to tighten your belt a little bit. You know says Ellen remember the Fuck Outta here billboard was on sunset after trump Bush got elected the first or second year I forget and it just shows eight celebrities been affleck the dude who made Michael Moore all those people and it goes thank you with these celebrities for coming out against. George. Bush and helping him get elected. Wow, we're talking down to people. Fuck off tell me how to feel fucking rich person and it's never done with like the fucking like. Air of kind of like, Hey, look I know I'm just an actor but like this is my take and do with that what you will, it's always kind of like I m moral authority. It's like well, no, you're fucking not Ben Affleck. You're not. We went from there was a commercial thing to leave right after this. Don't you? Don't use the word retard right retards bad and we went from a commercial, which is one of those ABC family or teenyboppers maybe that maybe a Sabrina. The teenage which had been her she was just in a school is the commercial and some like. Till. That retarded shut up say, Hey, we don't say that guys when you use the word interesting the cameras we use the word retard actually puts a certain percentage of people down even if they don't stop them, they have brothers and sisters and it's like it makes them feel about. Let's not do that. Went from that. Education type of commercial to hey, fuck you this guy said get him. Yeah. Yeah. It's weird I. Don't know how the. Dude. Not, glued. The weird thing about that is that it's a one hundred and eighty degree turn in terms of like what you're doing with your because you actually you went from being like, Hey, where against you know Some people being marginalized and being fucked over by society to being like we WANNA marginalizing fuck over people. You know what? I mean right now you've taken on all the energy and unfortunately it says something Kinda dark about the human condition, which is just basically that it's like people are either going to be the ones dominating someone else or the ones getting dominated I. think that's The Way I think is at the core of what the alt-right was basically saying and doing. and. The alt-right movement is kind of fizzled out at this point but it was a big deal and like two thousand seventeen or at least it was made to be a big deal but I, think they were basically like this group of white people who are like, well, look, we see the handwriting on the wall here were either going to be the ones dominating like we've been or were about to get dominated so we want to dominate. There's no, there's no middle. There's no hands across America no equality fuck that bullshit I listening to what these leftists are telling us and they're telling us now it's time to put the boot. On Your Net, the boots going to be on my neck or your neck, I'd rather your neck. So fuck you and that's what I represent. Now that is misguided and fucked up and evil in a lot of ways it's not completely wrong. Yeah. Right. Like there's something to it, and by the way if you hated the focus alt-right so much hardcore leftist stop proving them right at every turn click stop trying to make their case for you. If you wanted to gain more sympathy for the alt-right, all you have to do is listen to some hardcore S J ws and you go like, okay I kind of get what they're saying. Now give me a whole bunch of shit for that one twitter. He's got to get off. One. All right. Let's take a walk. All right. I'm going to stop this and we're GONNA start again. Stairs. Embalmed Kornacki. They can be you. Know you. Didn't. Listen. bodybags special. was. New You watch the rotation yeah. Child. Kim. Okay everybody. That's it. That's not it though that's not that was part want. To yesterday's. Heart one up two. We got a Lotta Shit left to talk about we ran out of time. It took a while to get in the fucking long Wi, fi parking parking in New York. I mean the fact that I thought I wouldn't need a garage. And if you don't know what a garage costs more than the lease on your car costs. I gotTA figure something out I'm GonNa fucking. I'm GonNa die if I had to keep driving sometimes it's easy and then sometimes you just drive and drive and drive and that's like forty minutes. You're like I'M GONNA fucking kill somebody. You guys that's the episode. But it's only part one David going to figure out a time this week. To meet again and do another three to four hours. To finish off this whole fucking state of this Guy Damn, union, it is shit show out there I. Really Really WanNa talk about how each other's throats everybody is. I gotTa Watch that. Movie The social experiment. I talked to people about talk. About it Brennan. Saga. He'll be on this podcast soon. And we were I haven't seen it yet. I just kept. I. Was like David Bring this up, bring this up and he goes dude it sounds like you've seen it because it's like everything you've said was in that movie it's just Shit I. I assume everything so that I've been talking about for a laugh years. But how dangerous and awful fucking social media's and the Internet in general and all the algorithms and stuff. But we're GONNA get to that in the next episode. We didn't get to that in episode next episode Don't forget. I'M A NEW JERSEY, the Stress Factory October ninth tenth and either the eighth or the eleventh I forget what the other one but It's on there it's on there I just forgot I should look it up this twice now promoted I've forgotten what the puck and real I think I think it's the eleventh and I thought I wasn't GonNa be around the eighth. So I do nine tenth eleventh instead. Guys, this is boring information. The point is that's the episode. Don't forget to check out day. Smith's. podcast part of the problem he's on there. I think he does like three episodes a week. It's all political shit. I gotta go on there once just to talk about my apathy with all this stuff because at some point really don't care. We'll be talking to somebody about some political news like. Actually, can we just stop fighting? I actually don't care about that subject at all. I. Want to talk about that about what happened what turned me maybe some of you into completely apathetic. Members of the society. Yeah. Hope you guys enjoyed. God. It was just interesting conversation. What's interesting too is we did three hours on his podcast who we talked about really divisive stuff. You know the handling the corona situation I have elderly parents you know that I worry about with this I. Have Friends were smokers, heavy smokers, and I worry about them. and. So we sort of differ a little bit on how seriously we take it and and what we think should be done for sure you heard that. And then the black lives matter thing it's like my also think that's different and I'm GonNa. I'M GONNA. Reiterate on some of this stuff and I think this'll be cool to have a two too because it'll give us a chance of like hold on I wanted to clarify something about the last last episode. I. Think what happens too is like you just go hey by the way this one thing like, but also these three other things. Yeah. I just mentioned those what I'm saying doesn't make sense. Anyway we can clarify some stuff. Things especially black lives matter where it's not just about deaths I. Think the Kobe situation too is that I don't WanNa. Lose my sense of smell for fucking I know people that haven't gotten it back. The sense of smell is gone. That's not like who came and went. It's like I, want my sense of smell I like it although in New York, in the summer, not the best thing to have was that is that a homeless person? Was a homeless person. He's dead. That smells rot. Thought rap has was bad. Yeah Anyway. But we did a three hour talk. Disagreed mildly here or there and we talked through it didn't didn't have a problem at all and then went to lead skanks. We got fucking legit screaming match over the movie cuties. Times. So That's that's part of this thing. Going, to reward myself. By smoking something. I don't want to get to monetize. There's no way. This podcast does not get monetize. Already. Right. Right. Like me. It's just this right just this. Election Youtube. This is like me. Like right doesn't it? Divisive, Shit we sat here. There's no way to such. It's GONNA be cursing to drugs or anything it's going to get monetize for. Sure. Anyway let's Java. That's the episode checkout dates like I said on part of the problem my stuff. You could find me here on Youtube and you're RSS Feed I've a podcast arch of your skeptic tank. That you're listening to right now please tell some friends about it. 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Libertarians On Woke Capitalism

Part of the Problem

1:40:10 hr | 1 year ago

Libertarians On Woke Capitalism

"We need a rollback with state, we spy on all of our citizens are flooded with non violent drug offenders. If you wanna know who America's next enemy is look at were funding right now other than one of these problems are voltage government way, too. I guess. Hello. Hello, welcome to a brand new episode of part of the problem. I am. Of course, the most Ken say stint motherfucker you know, Dave Smith joined as always by the king of the Cox, the one and only Robbie the fire burn Steen fucking around with my timing on words today. Just wanna make sure everybody's listening. How are you, sir? I'm doing well I'm happy to have the contract extension. Be back for another episode. No, that's right. We all are we're all thrilled. It's outta my hands to. I don't even I just let the gods decide. So I'm happy as well. So you look. Well, you look, handsome me and you're getting ready for a nicer trip up to New Hampshire Manny petty scheduled for that day. Yeah. Well, that's right. You don't wanna get a couple of days earlier. And then you scuff them up and you don't go up to the free as place in America, the Free State project without a nice Manny petty. You gotta let them know. That even in the absence of a state someone will still take care of rob Bernstein's big toe. Yeah. Because that's one of the big questions that people always ask about. And it's just as reasonable as who will build the roads when you really think about it who will take care of Rob's toes. Why not? That's the one I worry about if we don't have a state. Sasha's in a Free State are gonna come with hand jobs while you're getting your nails done. Well, you'll certainly have that option for a price capitalism. It's great to my fucking shoulder is fucked up. It's just that I don't know. It's little. I've had shoulder problems in baby years. It's, it's the way I rock it. Yeah. She's kicking my ass. And she's like, you know, like they're not. She's not that big, but she's like twenty pounds. That's up a little under twenty pounds. But it's like a magic you had a twenty pound weight that you just had to like rock in a certain way at all, like different angles. And then you find one angle that's like really stranger shoulder. But that's the only angle that gets this twenty pound. Dumbbell to go to sleep. Right. That's my life, and it's the one angle that just kills my shoulder Wilshire's maker fall asleep. So that's what she really do feel like she no. Yeah. It's not even that. I'm just it's like a fucking alpha move. Yeah. She's like just no, this is my house. You just pay the bills, but it's mine, and it is. But she's so cute, then she giggles, and you're like, okay, fine. You can have that each shoulder. I don't care parenthood is a real, it's a trip. It's, it's great though, anyway. We got a lot to get to on today's show. So let's jump into it because a lot of things happen. It's always. It's, it's, it's funny I, I have this experience when you do a show about like the news and politics and what's going on? There's so many times where the I'll be twenty four hours out. And I'm like fuck. He just thinking in my head, like, what am I gonna talk about tomorrow? I don't really have that much on my mind. And then all the sudden there's like six things that happened. And I'm like, oh, well there we go ahead and talk about this. So opening the show today. The big story that just broke last night was Donald Trump tweeted out, in fact, maybe if we could if you guys take your time. But if we find that tweet that Donald Trump more. Yes. That's right. Well, this is the new thing you don't need. This is the way the American government works. Now, you don't need the congress to pass a law. No more executive orders. Did you see the tweets the cruise thing with the? Yes, I did actually like that. Yeah. Well, that's okay. We could we could mention that real quick. So Alexandria, Cossio Cortez, tweeted, that there should be a lifetime ban for anyone who served in congress to be a lobbyist and then Ted Cruz said holy shit. I actually agree with you. And maybe we can work together to because currently it's a two year ban. Right. Which is just ridiculous. Yeah. To here's the like it's almost like you're helping them become a lobbyist where you're like I don't brush right into it for a little bit go hang on the beach. I mean, come on. You're working too hard. Don't worry. We got you. Yeah. Sure. I guess, but at the same time to me, this is one of those left wing policies to d I don't mean it's by its nature left-wing. I mean, this is something that a lot of left-wing people will talk about kind of, like campaign finance reform where it's this band to put over the wound. That is the corruption of government and the truth. Is that this will do nothing to stop? P- government from being. That's, that's the one this will do nothing to get at the problem of why there's this corrupt interest in government. And at the end of the day, the issue is that you have this four trillion this four trillion dollar monster. That can move mountains and people are always going to lobby toward getting that power on their side because it's in their interest. I kinda liked the Twitter transparency that they were actually engaging in by partisanship. Because if it was on C span, none of us would see as none of us would see them not getting along the fact that Twitter's truly public forum and Ted Cruz kind of called her out and said, oh, I'll work with you on that. That's a tough place to go. Well, no, you're the mean Republican, and we are possibly join side. Listen, I get what you're saying. But it's just like I had this argument. I remember actually talking about this with Ari Unas podcast. I do every year, I do a state of the union. On our fears podcast. If you're not aware, go check that out. I do I do it once a year, we'll probably do another one this summer, and we always have I always really enjoyed that show like a long in-depth. What's going on in the world and I remember talking about this with him? I think it was maybe two years ago. I think it was in two thousand sixteen when he said, you know, basically he was for campaign finance reform. Like that was really important. And I completely get where to somebody who's not super political who doesn't really pay attention to politics that much that sounds like it makes complete sense. It's like yeah. Why should some corporation be able to contribute money to a politician's campaign? I mean obviously, they're not contributing money to a politician's campaign because they really care about the direction of the country or they really like that politicians they're doing it because they want something from that politician. So isn't this the same thing as bribing politician to write laws in your favor? And so, I guess. Get the impulse to say, well, we should eliminate that. But the point I make is just like, well, what will that really do? Look at look at Hillary Clinton as the perfect example as it. Okay. So there are laws against foreign governments contributing to your campaign. So what do they do the Saudis, give ten million dollars to the Clinton foundation? Okay. So there you go. So that right away. We just found a way around that stupid rule. And do you think that there's not? Okay, so let's say we make a rule where big banks can't give Hillary Clinton money. Okay. Sure thing they won't give her any money but they just hired her to give a speech for five hundred thousand dollars. You know what I'm saying? If you have that much power, it's going to be corrupted. It's the nature of the beast. Here's an alternative anal on that to me, it's a little bit like a salary cap in sports that when you. Put a cap their people have to everyone's gotta kind of play by those rules. Now it's interesting when it comes to giving money to the government is a lot of companies would prefer, not to engage in that process whatsoever. And they get shook and down for it where if you're not gonna play for teams Lutely gonna get called into congress. One of the biggest examples that remember when Jim soft is a great one yet Microsoft got shut down. But I remember John Boehner when he was Bonner the bainer yet the Boehner everybody was talking about. Yes. But. Yeah. Sterile Cryer, they called it that, when the Republicans had the house, and the congress, they called it was a toll booth that he would not move things onto the floor for vote unless the companies were looking for those laws to be enacted made donations to Republican party. It was all he would hold on bainer half out, bribes on the floor on the house floor. Really? He like I'll get. So listen, I get level of corruption is, is disgusting. I'm just saying it's like you're not going to actually eliminate the problem. So it's definitely would along definitely not a perfect fixed, but they're definitely companies that want that actually have no interest in lobbying. The government rather be out of the game. I wonder if campaign finance laws would actually almost protect them from being shut down. Okay, how much money we're really talking about here. But I could tell you, listen, what happens so Microsoft to me, was the best example of this ever. And there's been several but Microsoft in, I believe it was ninety nine maybe two thousand was was brought in on antitrust. And so, you'll number so Microsoft if you can remember, right. Try to think in your head the time of computers in the year nineteen ninety nine and they were basically saying need them. Mike research, clo-, what was the point of even there was, but had to be really patient? But Microsoft was on every computer windows was just taking over and the government said, you're a monopoly, you're basically monopoly, and they brought them in. They didn't end up breaking them up. But Microsoft previously to that did not make any political contributions, and after that they started making millions and millions probably billions of dollars total in political one and detection, so, and by the way, they've never been hassled by the government again since. So you just think about that. And you're like, wow, what is this system? Like so there's billions of dollars that could have gone into that company that now get redirected toward these criminals in Washington DC, just so they can get left alone. And by the way, nothing, the government did broke up, the quote monopoly of Microsoft. It was the Steve Jobs. Asshole was fucking over creating some home thing, by the way. IBM in the seventies was brought in on. On antitrust legislation. They were sued while the lawsuit was going on. You know, this hippie Bill Gates was in some dorm room, working on Microsoft's. So there's millions of example. There's lots of examples of this, where the market, just works way faster than the government does. Anyway. Even if you think monopolies needs to be broken up. You're still better off leaving it to the market. But okay, I get your point. Right. But here's the problem with, with the angle you're going, you're going. Well, I guess, if we did have these rules, then it would stop some companies from from being forced into this, but the truth is that most of these antitrust laws or most of these antitrust suits have been pushed by competitors, who are going to one way or the other try to find a way to influence. Politicians to crack down on somebody who they can't beat in the marketplace. And as I said, they'll find a way to influence them. Whether you allow it the legally, I'd rather just be transparent in front, as we know who's donating, what campaigns that would be. My preference was at least just make them all transparent. But anyway. It's not there certainly could be worse rules, then congressman campy. Lobbyists. Okay. Anyway, let's go to Donald Trump's tweet. Here's what Donald Trump tweeted out yesterday. He says, and June tents, the United States with impose a five percent tariff on all can't do the verse forever on all goods coming into our country from Mexico until such time as illegal migrants, coming through Mexico and into our country. Stop all caps. The tariff will gradually increase until the illegal immigration problem is remedied. Let's go to the next tweet, because it can tin us at which time the tariffs, will be removed. Details from the White House to follow. Can we get rid of the character limit for Trump just for the one guy just for the president unlimited characters? I'll be honest. I don't think he needs anymore characters. I think Donald Trump has all the characters he needs right there. I get annoyed that, that separated by two tweets like this give it to me, one piece of information. I think if you if you don't limit Trump, it might get real weird. Okay. And just be like. Had a cheeseburger today. Burger ever. But it was a pretty good cheeseburger, gonna have another cheeseburger, as it runs on it gets weirder. So weird that he gets cut off that. No, it's not really getting a boner for my wife anymore. President Trump, please. I'm sorry tariffs. Okay. So this, this is the plan. The idea is that if the he's going to put this five percent tariff on all imports from Mexico, everything that Mexico's ends the United States America, he'll is going up avocados and this is the season for it, and you do the show in the winter. Yeah, this is really Donald Trump's attack on the left. So I'm gonna take your fucking avocado and their man. If there's one thing that, you know of every democratic socialist, you've ever met needs avocado bread. They need this strategy. Maybe they won't have the energy to show up and protests. No avocado toes. Stay home Trump fat, but it's healthy fair. Oh, well, anyway. So this is now he's saying that it's going to increase over time. So they'll go up to twenty five percent. If the migrant problem isn't salt. So this is if nothing else interesting and I, I would start by saying, I don't think this is a good idea. I think me and you may disagree on this. I don't think this is a good idea. However, this is probably of all of the justic justifications for tariffs. Probably the best one, I've heard where at least it seems to be like it's not this ridiculous. I'm I'm justifying tariffs on the ground that they're good for the economy or that they help us, I'm just saying, I'm willing to fuck over both of us unless you give me what I want, and I think we can take more punishment than you can. So, so we'll. Do this now. Look to, to be fair again. I'm not supporting this, but to be fair Mexico could do a lot to deal with the people flooding into America from Mexico. I mean, there's no, they, it's not easy to get to immigrate into Mexico. It's not easy at all. They do a very good job of like or from whatever perspective, if they don't make it easy, and yet these people can come through the entire country of Mexico and come into America. They can't stop in Mexico. You know what I mean? They make sure they're leaving their fucking country. So there is at least. In argument to be made that Mexico could do something to cut down on illegal immigration into the United States of America. Look, Donald Trump is whether you like it or not. He is winning the argument nationally on the immigration issue, at least as far as it goes that the Democrats tried going, you know, this is a manufactured crisis. There's no problem there. But we've had back to back months of over one hundred thousand border apprehensions. There was there was a five hundred thousand last year pretty much everybody is acknowledging now. Oh, yeah, there's a little bit of an issue here. There's a little bit of a problem. The gun thing they think the walls coming, so like this our last chance. Maybe that might be part of it. It also might just have to do with, you know situations on the ground, you know what I mean? But it might be it might be like, oh, better getting now. But I also think that. It's more probably a result of their economy's doing bad. Our economy doing good and, and people coming over here. You know what I mean? And they hear back after a while, even after Trump coming in, they're like, oh, no. You can get in here. It's fine. You know what I mean? Nothing bad's going to happen. And it's big business like the whole Coyote business is a big business. They charge money from everybody that smuggle them in here. So there's it's a whole you know system with a lot of perverse financial incentives. I think the issue really is that like from the libertarian perspective like pure libertarian perspective, you're like, well you have. Private property and people can come if they're invited or, or if they rent a place or by place or get a job or something like that. But not everybody's going to get hired not everyone is going to be able to rent some private property, people will be like, no. We don't want you coming in. And so you at least have this, this natural if you will kind of ebben flow of who gets to come who doesn't the problem with the government, which is the problem in across all areas with, with the government making these decisions this kind of arbitrary. It's like how many people do we let it? I don't know should be a million should be nine hundred thousand who who decides some bureaucrat somewhere, some politicians somewhere like who, who knows. But right now, there's no system, and people are starting to realize this isn't really working great. And a lot of people are not thrilled with it. I said this weeks ago on the show, but a lot of the Democrats liked to really. Play up, how evil Donald Trump is an immigration is the easiest issue for them. Oh, he's separating families, and he's saying he wants to build a wall, and he doesn't care about these poor people who are, you know, helpless, and flooding over the border and he has no, like sympathy or empathy for them. But the truth is, when you've got Joe Biden out there saying, yes, I think it is America's obligation to give free healthcare to a legal immigrants, and Donald Trump saying, we should build the wall. Who do you think's going to win that argument with the majority of Americans? I think it's, it's easily Trump. I think if you, if you take to most Americans and one of them is saying, not only do you not get a say in who comes into your country, anyone, but people who come in after we've said, they're not allowed in, and they just they just break into the country, you now have to dig in your pocket, you're going to be forced to pay for their education, health care housing, whatever else you wanna say, I don't think that's going to be very popular. So it's a dangerous game for Democrats because it's kind of its seductive in a way to bash Trump for his rhetoric on immigration. But, you know. You also gotta win an election. So it's difficult. Now, you, you were saying that you actually thought that this was not such a bad plan. I kinda like it firstly it's just it's fun. It's a game of chicken five ten twenty twenty five percent with an increasing. How can you go? Yeah. It's just it's, it's kind of fun. It's sales e. Where I think the strategy is lacking is a war on too many fronts, you know, he's trying to ramp up sanctions on Iran, and he's playing a bit of a currency war here, where other countries are trying to bypass it. And while I don't agree with the US strategy to cultivate dollar demand. If you want to know what the real wealth of our nation is built on that. So he's playing he's playing chicken on that battle. He's also playing chicken with China. And he's trying to rank which economically speaking is much more important game than the one in Iran. That's more about, you know hurting that country. Yeah, this China is like and the difference between playing this game with China and Iran or something like that or Canada. Or whatever is that this that one we may not be able to win. Right. That game of chicken we might get hurt. The China one is interesting because you do have elements of do we are the problems of intellectual property will on. There's actual problems of US infrastructure relying on. What's most likely government agency? Like that's an interesting question. If you look at how important big data is to companies and governments and whether or not if a Chinese corporation, five G network has all American data and large amount of infrastructure is at a security risks us, I'm not answering that question here. That is that is an interesting issue that perhaps needs to be addressed. And it's also interesting to say, hey, should the US government come in and try and get the backs of all these companies that are losing information to China? That's all interesting. Let's not address any of that. Here's what I think he's fucking up. I think you can take on one of these fights at a time and possibly bully country for better results. I think that's possible. And I think if you actually listen tariffs, nobody wins with them, but I guess, in the short term, if you try and play this card, and you win. It's an interesting strategy late. Well, it certainly look. Yeah. China points like over the course of a month. Trump got humongous concessions from China playing tariff strategy. I go, okay you one that was that was risky. I don't like tariffs, but we came out ahead at the end of that. Good for you dumb strategy. But it worked when it comes to the Mexico thing, I think that, that's a battle, you can actually win and that the immigration thing is really important. And like you said, he's not selling it on, hey, the tower served for either one of our benefit. Let's play some chicken because I don't think are being cooperative here. So innovative cume, if he wasn't fighting all these other fights, I think it would be an interesting strategy, and it could work. I think he's spreading himself, too thin. And he doesn't have the backing of the international community. So it's most likely just gonna fall to the wayside. Yeah. Well, here's the thing. It could it look, theoretically, I will grant threatening tariffs, which is all that's being done here is threat. And if threatening theoretically can work. So if you if some other country, let's say has has tariffs. On American imports, and we say, hey, we're gonna put tariffs on your imports in less. You drop the tariffs on our imports and they drop them. And then we drop them. I couldn't argue that, that worked. It's a bit of a dangerous game. And Trump has at time said that actually it's good for the economy to put tariffs on, which is to me, just craziness and just bad economics. So this could work, or it could not work, and it could really damage the economy which, by the way, you know, the market had a very bad day as a result of this, and I'm just saying if you don't the thing about playing chicken is that if you don't win doesn't go so well for you. Yeah. So that's it is a risky game. Now. I think what's going on is that Donald Trump needs to have some type of win on immigration going into twenty twenty and he feels like this is my central issue. This is what I ran on. I can't just have. Like illegal immigration going up, on my watch, and there are a lot of people like the hardcore Trump supporters who are getting pretty upset about that. They're not thrilled. They're like where the folks this wall, we were supposed to build the wall. Deport them all this was like, your fucking campaign, your central campaign promise, and we've got nothing on it. So I think that he is risking. Which is a really dangerous risk is risking hurting the economy because if the if the economy's hurt going in its twenty he's screwed. So he's risking that. So I if I had to bet and I don't know. But if I had to bet, I think Donald Trump's gonna lose this game chicken on that. No, I don't think he's tariffs will ever go into effect certainly not the twenty five percent ones. That's my guess I tweet about the say of the fire fire, follow me bastards, but what's interesting about firstly. There was a spike in goal today, and you've seen some a lot of market activity over the Chinese trade war all the stuff people are getting a little bit concerned about it. But the other result of that is that the fed actually said, we're going to wait on raising interest rates because we're nervous about economic growth. So it's really terrible about the Federal Reserve is that if you're president, and you actually have economic policies that fuel growth, the fed has the ability to step in and completely turn that back to a neutral so that. Your economic if you go. So essentially, they're like, we will subsidize this economy, if you do the wrong things. Yes. So we will still near they make you look good. And if you're good they'll make you look bad. Here's the best example of that. If you really had a tax reform policy that led to economic growth almost instantly, the Fed's gonna raise interest rates to cool inflation, which essentially means if your president who comes in, with large, overhauls will actually help our economy. The feds got a reverse the other way. Yeah. That's, that's a great point. And it just shows you how fucked the foundations of our economy are is that if you come in and do all the right things if that, and if you do all the wrong things I'll help you came in. We got you back some perversion so it's interesting with him and playing these little games is that the fed might have neutralized him, and it all comes down to the fucking fed, and whether or not they crash the market before the now. So that's that card. Now this kind of pulling that might on my ass. I'm just curious. Does a tariff between us and Mexico, help US farmers. It might help some small groups of US farmers. But again, it will tariffs will always help a small group. It it's just like any government policy any intervention. It will always help some special interest, but it will be bad for the general interest. I know yet like theoretically, if you are if you're like. I don't know if you're, if you're producing limes in New Mexico somewhere, then yet tariffs on lines coming in from Mexico are probably better for you, right? Like now, people are, you know, those lines are more expensive, and so you're doing better in the market by comparison. But to everybody who buys limes, they're just dealing with higher prices. So look, this is what I was talking about this in general. I got a lot of pushback on this stuff when I was just talking about before the tariffs in general, and what I said, was if which I still think, is the best way to look at this stuff. The Bob Murphy line where he goes. If you're going to argue that it's hurting us for some other country to give to sell cheap goods because and look, I get the argument you're saying that we're, we're producing something here in America, some other country. Undercuts us and produces it for cheaper. And now these people get put out of work, right? Because they're producing it for cheaper, but just think it through. If you're going to say that it is hurting our economy for somebody else to sell us goods for cheap, then you'd have to say it would really hurt our economy, if they were to just give us stuff for free because that would really put people out of work. But look at what you've been reduced to arguing now, you're arguing that if someone gives you a gift, it makes you poorer that if someone gives you something for free that makes you poorer. Now I heard some people giving me push back on this, where they said they said, well, don't libertarians think that welfare traps, people in a system of poverty, and it's like well, welfare traps, people in a system of poverty, because they pay you to be poor. They pay you on the condition of being poor. If you stop being poor, you lose the money that's the reason welfare, traps people because you are literally incentivizing failure. You're saying if you fail. I'll give you money if you succeed. I take that money away. This is just basic incentives. If you're getting four hundred dollars a week on welfare and someone offers you a job for four hundred dollars a week, you'd have to be stupid to take that job. Right. 'cause you'd be like I'm working for free. I get paid to not work or now I get paid for one hundred dollars a week to actually work that and now if someone offered you five hundred dollars a week while the really only offering you one hundred dollars a week. Right. Because you get four hundred did not what you got to pay for gas, and you gotta get there and you have to work is that really worth one hundred less than one hundred when you factor in gas and lunch or whatever the folktales else you have to get out, what other whatever other expenses, come along and against six hundred only two hundred seven hundred only three hundred this is the problem with welfare. If you actually think getting stuff for free makes you poorer think about it this way we all get a lot. Lot of stuff for free. And if you were to think about what we get for free, the most important things that we get for free are things that people who have died have left to us like, in a Konami on the level that we're at now the human knowledge, that's been cultivated over the last thousands and thousands of years. I mean somebody you know what I mean like invented computers and microphones in the internet. We get to just sit on top of all of that. And do this podcast. I mean okay we had to buy the products. But like really basically all that knowledge is essentially given to us for free. If you actually think that getting free stuff makes you poorer then we should all just go live in the woods and go, I'm not taking any of the advances of human history for free. I'm going to start from scratch and build everything myself, toilet paper, I got tree park. That's right. Figure this shit out myself. So if you start wiping your has with raw tree bark, and you feel like you know what I feel rich. Better than I've ever felt the foreign my life. Then sure be for tariffs. But if not you should be against them, if that starts to great at your asshole, and it starts to get raw and painful, after a while you should go, you know, what I'm for free trade cut that political. That's great. That's I'm Dave Smith. And I approve this message. So anyway, look, we'll keep our eyes on this. I do I am. Let's say skeptical that this is actually going to work out. I will say for twenty twenty-five. It's just fun. It's like being I'm not arguing with you on that. It is down. I'll say though for Trump selling himself, as I'm the master negotiator. Really hasn't done such a great job while he's the master at selling himself as the master negotiator that he did a great job at undeniable. Shooting. I mean look I do like what he's done with North Korea. At least we're talking to them, but it's not like he really got some grand deal. He got a few houses out that was great. That's the only area where I really see like he's had a lot of success wanna deal, though. They fucking murder a whole bunch of people for not going through. Did you see that? Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's pretty interesting. I let's take a quick second and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is stamps dot com. 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He's done a really good job of denigrating the respectability of institutions, and I love that and root for it as much as possible. It is really hard to have reverence for the office of the president of the United States, when it's Donald Trump in there, I think that's wonderful. But aside from that, I really don't see this great negotiator. Maybe I'm wrong. But that's just me. All right. Let's move on. Let's, let's move on to the segment where I wanted to talk about Tucker Carlson and his show last night a little bit. So I was a I was doing Kennedy show last night. And I'm over at FOX at Fox News and Kennedy show goes goes live at nine pm and Tucker Carlson show is goes live from eight to nine PM. So I was in the green room getting ready to go go out on Kennedy showing they had talker Carlson playing on the TV, and I really do enjoy watching his show, and he did this, this segment that I it really was like hitting me like I was on the couch sitting there watching, and you're kind of like Chit chatting with people, and I just got captivated by the segment that he was doing that was a direct criticism of libertarianism and I it almost. Fucked with me during my my show on Kennedy like it was in the back of my head the whole time. And I was thinking about it last night after I went home, and I was like, wow. You know, I think I think that was something important that that happens. Like I think he, he raised an issue that was really important. That might be the best criticism of libertarianism in two thousand nineteen that I've ever heard, where I was like, wow. There really is something there. And I was like this has to be like, I have to deal with this. I can't just like not address this. I have to like, you know, try to wrap my head around this. And, and I don't know that I completely have yet, so you may have to give me some more time even after we do the segment. But there was something I remember. Tom woods said this, I think a couple years ago and. It, it was something that stuck with me, because I am partially because it was coming from Tom woods for anybody who doesn't know is, you know, the boss of, of libertarian podcasters, and a brilliant guy. Great personal. So, but he's, he's a guy who had a, you know, a big hand in and kind of influencing my worldview, and he said at one point where he was like, look, we have to be honest that the threat to free speech in America today, isn't really coming from the state like the threat to free speech is not really that the government is gonna come lock you up. If you say the wrong thing, at least, not right now, historically that has been the biggest threat to free speech has been states. But today, he goes, what's really a bigger threat to your free speech is at the state, or is it social Justice warriors? Is it left wing college professors who are going to fail you? If you say the wrong thing in your class, is it some boss, who's gonna fire you if you say the? Thing. And there was something about that, like you have to at least acknowledge that, that is the truth of the situation. We're living as much as it does not I feel a little bit of that, cognitive dissonance because it doesn't suit. My narrative the way, I want it to, but that is the truth. And after looking at Lino when we had Milo Yannopoulos on legion skanks the other day, by the way, it was a great hilarious episode, go check that out. But you realize that it's like so we wanted to talk to somebody on our podcast, which is hours like we own it. It's our property. We wanted to have a conversation with somebody who, by the way, is not even that radical on our podcast. I've had far more radical people on this podcast, Richard Spencer, and Christopher can't well way more radical people than than mile unanimous. And there's more radical people out there on all sides. But so we wanted to have a conversation with him. And what happened was the creek in the cave, gut vandalized by fucking like these street thugs who disagree with his politics. There were threats of violence open threats of violence against us and a boycott threatened on the creek in the cave intil. We stopped the show and you're like so who's really shutting down speech here? Is that the government? No, congressman cares. If we have my low on our podcast or not so anyway, that, just that as a backdrop, there's something there that libertarians knee. Need to deal with and, and so anyway. So I saw this segment the other day with talker. I wanna play it now I haven't actually watched. I watched like a thirty seconds of it, but I haven't really watched the whole thing since last night when I saw it. So let's watch it together and, and see if we can grapple with these ideas because it's a direct challenge to libertarians viewings, Georgia lawmakers passed what they called a heartbeat Bill bans abortion after the first few weeks of pregnancy, would've fetal heartbeat can be detected now you may agree with the lari may not agree with the law, but you can't call it illegitimate voters in Georgia elected lawmakers, who represent their values. And that's exactly how democratic systems are designed to work, this, the point if people who claim to be defending our democracy from the rations would understand that. But of course they don't understand it. They don't care to understand it. They believe democracy is when a tiny group of rich people imposes its values on everyone else by force. Bob eiger. CEO of Disney. He doesn't live anywhere near the state of Georgia. He made nearly sixty six million dollars last year. Therefore, he believes he can control what happens in the state of Georgia. Watch. Well, I think if it becomes law, it'll be very difficult to produce rather response, it right there. I like how the head of Disney really dresses. Like he's Mickey mouse's boss, just ridiculous outfit. Like I've had a long day of telling cartoon characters what to do, and now there is by the way, you would think, right. You would think absent, like inundated libertarian mind like mine, you would think in issue like abortion. So abortion is an issue that is highly contested, very heated passionate issue on both sides. So you have one side on the of the abortion issue, that goes, if you ban abortion, you are. It's an assault on women's rights. This is a fundamental, like woman's right to atonomy to self ownership. You hate women if you ban this, and this is the biggest catastrophe ever if abortions band and the other side goes abortion, is murdering babies if you legalize this. You. Are murdering babies? So both sides go. The other one is the worst thing in the world like that this is a very contentious issue. And the country is largely split on it. I think the pro choice side might have the edge by like two or three percent. But the country's very split on the issue of abortion. So you would think in the autistic libertarian mind looking at the way, a market would work on paper, you would go some big company like Disney, who has to serve, everybody would just not want to touch this with a ten foot pole. They go, I'm not taking a side one way or the other. I'm not going to if I take one side, I alienate the entire other people. So you know what I'm just making Mickey Mouse movies. I'm a little outdated with Mickey Mouse. I'm making the line king with. Yes. Mark Jarman Star Wars. Yes. Okay. Disney is moved on since Mickey Mouse. I still stuck in the nineteen thirties. All right guys, let's take a quick second. And thank our sponsor for today's show, which is noble goal. Old. We've talked about many times on this podcast, the threat of inflation, and the possibility of really bad inflation, even hyperinflation coming up in the future. And one of the investments that people have always used to hedge against inflation is precious metals now I wouldn't suggest you put all of your money into gold and silver immediately. But I think if you're a smart investor a portion of your money has to be impressions metals and a lot of people are interested in rolling over their IRA 4._0._1._K and noble gold can help you with that this is a legitimate company. They're happy to tell you, everything you need to know to make an informed decision about covering your financial ass with precious metals they're trustworthy. You can go see the reviews on trust link and consumer affair. 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They're not staying out of it. They are jumping in, like full dive into one side of this issue. Fuck the people on the other side of that we're on this side of it. So right away. That's just something that's interesting to take note of I think, part of why they decide to make that decision. Is that most people don't follow the new. Enough to tie together. Oh, Disney the people in my marvel movie have made had taken a stand against against abortions, the people that do pay attention all these fucking assholes, who work in Hollywood and work for these, you know, the, the A-List stars that you book, who go. Hey, maybe I don't wanna be in the marvel franchise movie because they're willing to be in Georgia. So within their little circle, they all got to play the, the circle anybody who's voted for Trump. They don't know anybody who's in this. So they're like, well, everybody seems to feel this way, I think that's part of it. But we're lucky also is their product is so good that even the people that don't agree with them politically, we'll go. We'll their products. So good. I'm still going to go see them. I don't I actually don't care if Disney, here's the difference. Is that well here's the I think you touched on something there. But I think it goes a little bit further than that. I think it's that one side, they know will go. I don't care any other side will never buy your fucking shit. Again, this is something that I did learn from that whole mind. Yeah. On legion of skanks if. We booked some left-winger, who has whatever I, I mean, I had a socialist, I had Ben Ben Burgess as socialist to right wingers. That's like as offensive as Milo is too left-wingers. You know how many right-wingers eligible they don't care. Nobody's boycotting. Nobody's threatening to throw milkshakes as it right. Wingers tend to have jobs families. Marriages, the they're just, like, I don't have time to just go down there, you know, left-wingers have their vegan coffee shop or whatever, like they're ready. I'm not saying all of them, but they are. There's no question having Milo. If we had whoever the left-wing quivalent of Milos, you'd have whoever we have Lena Dunham on legion of skanks, right? Who's like as far left as you could be also is disgusting as you can be also, by the way, openly talked about how she sexually assaulted her sister, when she was a child. Okay. None of these same people would be boycotting, they wouldn't care because she's got the right politics. She's got their politics. So nobody's gonna protest that. So it's there's no question that there is a double standard not a double standard. That's, that's the wrong way to put it. There's no question that the left will put more heat on you. If you disagree with them than the right, and when you're talking about people that are based out of Hollywood. They're pretty much largely surrounded by left leaning people. And so I don't know. I think this all plays into it. There are market forces at work here, clearly, but it's just interesting to note right away that they're diving in on one side of a hotly. Contested political issue. Let's keep playing. One, I think many people work for us will not want to work there, and we'll have to their wishes in that regard right now were, were watching very carefully. I guess there's some speculation it could be an acted sometime after the first of the year. They also likely to be challenged in the courts, and that could delay it and we're being, we're being careful and cautious about it. But if it becomes law. I, I don't see how it's practical for us to continue to shoot there. Got that the company that brought you many mouse and goofy and the pirates of the paean Carribean now demands that you approve of abortion, or the punish you that flicks is on board with this that company, currently films, a number of shows in Georgia, if the state doesn't repeal it's abortion law. Netflix says it will pull out. This is all remarkable change in American life in a very short period of time. It wasn't that long ago that it was citizens who boycotted companies. They disagreed with corporations, who boycott citizens. What happened? It's not hard to figure out what happened for generations consumers in voters held the real power in this country but not anymore. Now corporations are in charge, and they're happy to boss, you around on behalf of the activist left the lie about it. Of course, tell you, it's all a matter of conscience. Right. As if they had consciences, Netflix, for example, it's show. Marco Polo, in Malaysia case you have in visit Malaysia recently being gay is a crime there most of that country lives under sharia law. Of course, abortion is also restricted Malaysia, just as it is in Colombia, where Netflix filmed, it's show narcos. The company didn't seem bothered by that Disney. By the way, just filmed. It's upcoming live action lawn film, in China, which is to say any police state, where huge parts of the unit or band. And people are ex. Secured for having the wrong opinions and some cases abortion is mandatory, so. No, Disney Netflix aren't really worried about anyone's rights, no matter what their flax claim. The real concern only concern is power women with children might be tempted to put the needs of their own families before those shareholders abortion, solves that problem families shrank or disappear entirely women are free to devote their lives to the company, reliable little worker, bees, corporations. Get to expand their labor pool lower wages and increase profits all will delivering pious lectures about how they're giving women opportunities were feminists now. It's a great. Yes. Disney does not give a shit about manipulating the US workforce for cheaper labor. That's not their decision here. I Alice is interesting. Very prior to that recalls amount of being hypocrites. They do not Walt Disney is not sitting around merry time believing that that's actually where they're going with and the truth is that I think that the I what I would believe is that part of the reason why politicians are so on board with pushing a lot of this shit is that when the single women childless women, the whole stuff that the whole feminist movement pushes does lead toward people wanting a big nanny state like that's for sure. But again, problem there is that these are like this is coming from the political class, and from people who want a bigger and bigger state. I've a very tough time believing that last part of the it's an interesting story to we've, I just have a very. Time believing that. However, there was a very good point that he made about people filming in Malaysia China in these other parts of the world, and then saying, they have some principled stand about not going to Georgia. I mean, give me a fucking break, like come on, man. Really? You know, the stuff was I forget what it was. There was some law. I don't think it was an abortion law, but there was some well, where beyond say said she wouldn't go sing at a concert, I think she cancelled a concert in some southern state for something and insurance doing a concert in Qatar and you're like I mean, come on, get the fuck out of here, so they that does demonstrate that this isn't really about an ideology. This isn't really about views, and, you know, caring so much about the people or women's rights, or whatever this is kind of about power, and then there's something there. That's that is kind of interesting that, that needs to be addressed. But I do agree with you that, I think that analysis somewhat flawed. I I don't think Disney is involved. In some master plan to make people slaves of Disney, although they're not involved in that, that might be the effect of what they're doing now. I think the CEO said, I was shocked. When I read I was like at first, I was like, Disney really wants to get involved in this, like this is politics, go, make your money. What are you doing and again, but not just politics, the most contentious of politics, this, yo set himself? He said, if we're shooting, Georgia, we're gonna have talent. That's not gonna wanna work there. They work in an industry where they got placate to this town. Yeah. Into this talent. It's very important for them to be able to show up and say, how righteous, they're being in terms of even though it's nonsense. Protecting women's rights. This is a business decision that they have to come out on the side of the loud, you have to last, you have to understand the beast, that is Hollywood. And what you have in Hollywood in the actors and actresses out there. First off, it's a weird fucking town. If you spent any time out there in LA, it's fucking weird show. Business in LA is fucking. Weird and I've only dipped my toe in it, but it's fucking weird out there. It's a weird goddamn town and what you have is these people who are. It's like the most the phony issed most self absorbed, people in the world are people who go out to, to make it in Hollywood. And then who do make it in Hollywood? They're very. They're all about their career, and their image and everything about themselves, and that unsung level, whether consciously or subconsciously eats them, and they try to overcompensate for that by virtue signaling and talking about how this is why you go to the Oscars. And everybody's gotta get up there and talk about some 'cause I've broken down the Oscars on several episodes in the past. But you go to the Oscars, and everyone gives a speech in they're kind of, like, did you know that, you know, minorities are under represented in films, or they're starving people in Africa? Or there's this and that. And you're literally at this ballroom, you're wearing a ten thousand dollar dress with three thousand dollars shoes and you're extravagant ballroom. You're eating like five star catered, whatever it's this huge waste of wealth and resources. But then you get to get up there and give a nice little speech. So you really get to have it. All right. You get to eat your cake, and you get to have your cake and eat it too. You get. To enjoy all of the luxuries enjoy being part of the point. Oh, one percent. But then still go, but I really care about the poor like more than you understand. And I mean I'm not a psychologist but it's kind of obvious what's at work. They're like your, your comforting yourself and justifying that you get two for for your contribution to society being. I'm a professional adult who plays make believe in front of a camera. I'm living this life. And so they're constantly needing to virtue signal and going in performing in fucking Saudi Arabia or something like that doesn't. That doesn't give them any points to virtue signal against them. So they'd rather virtue signal against someone like the state of Georgia. So I think that's much more. What's driving this, then what Tucker saying here? All right. Feminists now. It's a grotesque scam, but it's remarkably effective somewhere in the late nineteen nineties, corporate America realized this, they learned that, if they did the bidding of the left on social issues, they would get a pass on everything else. They could freeze wages they can destroy the environment. They could strangle free speech that could eliminate privacy in general, they could make the public life much worse, all the while they could get richer than any class of people in human history. And nobody would say anything. Come off a little bit too early there because he kinda pivots, the argument to what you criticize the left for, which is, you know, they say, nothing about the foreign wars while playing this morality card. And that's what he's saying. It's easy to play the morality card on some of these social issues while on the backside destroying the environment, or robbing people of their wealth. So that that's, that's more interesting than what he was. I saying, yeah. No, I agree with you. All right. Let's keep lying what they did. And they're still doing it. Salesforce is a major tech company that sell software, mostly to businesses today Salesforce, announced that it won't work with customers from cell semi automatic firearms or magazines, that hold the gun control groups say, are too many rounds last year, CitiGroup announced it would not allow stores that sell semi automatic weapons teams their credit card services. That's where we are today, but it's not hard to match of might be like tomorrow. What if for example, America corporate America decide to punish gun owners edition to gun sellers? You've got a firearm at home longer by car insurance. Can't use Facebook. Can't open a checking account. You can't have a credit card. You can't stay in hotels. Libertarians will tell you that, that's just fine. Just the free market at work. If you don't like it open your own credit card company, but you'd have to be a more onto believe them back. I have no problem with it zero really zero. There's no part of that, that affects me for two reasons. One absolutely. In every single one of these industries. Other people will come along and compete on. Yes. You're saying they're a really big company to say. I disagree with you on that, pretty hard to say you don't have a problem with it. I mean, look, just look, just the fact that people get kicked off Twitter and stuff like that. I have a problem with that I absolutely. I don't think it sums up the libertarian position to say, I don't have a problem with that. It's fun. I think it sucks. I don't need to be on Twitter. No, I get is not a make or break. I don't need a Bank chase look. Well, I don't need insurance. Hold on. So, well, let's just play this out a little bit. Yeah. So it starts with that, right. Kicked off Twitter. You don't need to be a part of Twitter, whatever. All right. Fair enough. But what happened? Alex Jones was that Twitter Facebook. I tunes YouTube like all of these. Pay pal? A whole bunch of all together all to unpersonalised at once it gets a little bit worse. It's not just getting kicked off Twitter. It's like this is literally taking away someone's career taking away, someone's voice from what has become the public square in two thousand nineteen now. One. Let me finish this not it's not that far of a leap from that to also say, then not just chase Bank. All banks. Can't get a credit card can open a Bank account. Let's say they all get together. I mean, there's only like four of them, you know, they all get together. Now, if they were doing that to somebody for, let's say for being a libertarian, let's say for, for having libertarian views, you got kicked off of all of those things at once one day and they destroyed someone's ability to make their livelihood. They destroyed their ability to reach people and get out there. I certainly wouldn't respond to that by saying, I don't care, the biggest problem. You're in my opinion, your existing within their framework, where these companies can have that much control and power saving take the Facebook thing with the platforming. I think the only reason that companies got together and did that was because they basically got a notice from the government. Hey, we don't want this guy. I don't think that was independent from the government take his example, but okay. See now you're getting closer. Response. Let's keep running with it. Let's take his example of Disney. I bet Disney's in Atlanta, because it has better tax incentives. Now I bet if every state could really compete for the best tax incentives to film in. There's a good chance that there'd be so much savings and filming in Atlanta. They wouldn't actually be making the statement. Let's go to the banks. I don't think we'll ever live in a world where every single Bank where there's absolutely no option for somebody to go. Hey, I'll give this guy credit. I don't think in if that does happen, that's because government legislation or these companies lobby the government to preclude other people from competing and having businesses. So to even walk into this framework, where these companies have this much control were existing within a government picture. Okay. So now for now, I think you're getting into what is a much better libertarian response to this than what Tucker was saying? So for, for a libertarian to just say, oh, I don't care. That, that you'll you'll have technological developments and we'll, you can say, listen, I like that idea. I my heart is with you. Here's the problem. I don't actually see it happening. I don't actually see it happen. You see every Bank getting rid of libertarians for being libertarians. No, I'm not saying I see that happening. I see every Bank getting rid of Alex Jones. Yes, I see that being only a few years off only a few years off. I see people like Alex Jones, Milo, Yiannopoulos, Gavin mcginnis people like that being ruined being straight up ruined by being deployed formed like that. I do see I think it's a very real thing. And I think it's a very real threat. I don't think the libertarian response should be. I don't care whatever start your own Twitter. Start your own thing. I mean it would be great. If someone did start their own Twitter. Hey, we need the government to step. Right. So, but I'm just saying I don't it would be great, if someone did start their own youtuber their own Twitter and said, hey, this is a free speech platform. We're not gonna kick people off. I would very much support that look even for somebody like, you know, like my friend, Owen Owen, Benjamin who works up to having over one hundred thousand followers on Twitter, and then just fucking lose it like that. It's like that sucks. Now, look, it is their right? It's their company. They can kick you off they want to, but it still sucks. My response isn't just like I don't care. I do care. I'm very disappointed in Twitter for doing that. And there is something to be said for the fact that, like Twitter has become this place in America in two thousand nineteen where like Trump's talking about tariffs. We found out from Twitter, you're cutting another American citizen from what the president is doing. I get that there's an argument to be made that like this is kind of crazy that someone can piss. Here's the thing, right? This is I think what the libertarian responses in my view. It's not. Oh, I don't care. It's look this isn't happening in a vacuum. This isn't happening in the context of some libertarian stateless society and everybody's rising up in the companies are doing this. We live right now in America in a society with the largest most powerful government in the history of human existence. That's a fact that is a fucking fact, the American government spends more money spies on more people bombs more countries has more power than any if America in two thousand nineteen went to war with America in two thousand or went to war with America, nineteen seventy four we demolish them. So we have we have way more powerful military than we had back. Then we have if we had to we have way more powerful spying capabilities. We have four trillion dollars to play with instead of whatever the five hundred billion or whatever they had back, then there's the this is all happening within the context of this huge. Leviathan. Right. It's all happening within this context and that can't just be completely removed. So even if you're going to say that, which I think is a real threat because all it takes right now is say, how many banks are there, like big banks? There's chase Bank of America. Citi group, a couple other Wells Fargo once he got DIC and the exclusive. Well, exactly count of this is this is the libertarian response is that for a fact, we know we're not even like theorising. We know there'd be way, more financial institutions. If it wasn't for the book just dodd-frank after dodd-frank, there were big mergers between, these big banks that, you know, how many community local banks got put out by by the crisis in two thousand eight that was completely caused by the government and the subsequent government response to it. So this is actually, I think more sophisticated an. Accurate libertarian responses that you know what you're right. There is a real threat to the government coming in and creating a situation where there are only a few big financial companies. So we better make sure they don't do that, again, by the way, forgetting those examples that I just used. Here's a way better one. Right. You're concerned that there's just only a few fine, by the way, I'm focusing on the financial companies because to me that is the scariest part of all the things he's laying out like the idea that there are companies who could straight up go. You can't do business anymore. You can't you can't have a credit card. You can't get alone. You can't get any of this because you own a gun. Look, I get what you're saying. Let me just finish this train of thought I get your point that you're like look, are they going to ban all libertarians? That's not happening soon. But just saying Tucker drawing a line from saying, these financial companies won't do business with someone who manufacturers fifteen's too. We won't do business with someone who owns an AR fifteen is not that crazy of a leap. So so if if that is your concern, and that is a big concern. You don't want their only being a few financial companies that can conspire together agree. We're not gonna do it because as you said, before, if let's say, CitiGroup and Wells Fargo will do business with you, but chase won't. Well, that's not that big of a deal. You just go with those guys. The, the risk is that CitiBank Wells Fargo and chase. All won't do business with you. Okay. We'll guess what? If you want, if you don't want there to only be a few financial companies. What do you think would have happened if we hadn't bailed them out when they were all going belly up, how many how, how many of? These big banks. Do you think would still exist, if the federal government hadn't come in and bailed these fuckers out after they tanked the economy what you would have had in this industry is a shattering of these big banks into hundreds or thousands of smaller banks, and it would be much easier right in that situation where he'd say, so are you going to tell me you're going to be because you might be able to get three multinational huge conglomerates to all be woke capitalists? But are you going to be able to get ten thousand local banks to all be woke capitalists impossible impossible? So to me, this is more the libertarian answer. And that that's just the point I was trying to make like that's all I was disagreeing with you about. I don't think our response should be. We don't care, I think to be this is very related to the huge government that we live under. Okay. We're all in agreement that this is within the government structure in. That's what creates these problems banal. It's even go back to what he was saying. And the threat that he's trying to lay on the table that exists to our liberty and why he's then UNICEF. This is why we need government to step in. We can both agree. We don't want government to step in doesn't even and we'll play the rest the video, but he doesn't even make clear what he wants the government to do. Just basically libertarians will say this is fine. And you have to be a more onto believe that okay? So even when he says to me, it's still just it is fine because guess what guns are extremely popular. If chase being said tomorrow. Hey, if your gun owner, you can't Bank here, they're gonna take a fucking and someone else is gonna step up and start running commercials. Hey, we gladly welcome. The real American hunters and people property. I promise you lap, and I promise you all the banks did it some online app is going to swallow a lot of the banking industry. I also what's been going on with all the pot banking, because those guys aren't allowed to use traditional institutions, and I bet that's created a big market for someone. Yeah. But I mean just to use that example that you have I don't know what the latest on that is. I know that was a big problem for a long time is that they couldn't get any any any financial institutions to work with the big. Marijuana distributors because federal law, what? Right. So what you had with all these states that legalized pot, which is just a fascinating situation still to this day, but so you have California and, you know, Denver Colorado and they're like pots legal here, that's the state law. But the federal law is that pot is a schedule one narcotic you can get life in jail for fucking marijuana and everyone of these dispensaries is distributing enough to get life in jail. Now theoretically any day. Now any day, the DA or the FBI could walk into Los Angeles, California, go to a weed dispensary and go, you're all under arrest. And by the way with the quantity that you are moving with clear intend to distribute, you're getting life in jail, like this is not if you've looked at what marijuana laws actually are it is insane, how much time you can get for that shit. They'd be getting life. In jail. That's what they'd be looking at. But they don't because, you know, they don't really wanna start a civil war over fucking pot. And by the way Oba was doing this Obama in the first two years of his administration sent federal agents into California, arrested sick people, shutdown dispensaries. There was a huge uproar about it, and he backed off because he needed to get reelected and he needed these people worked up for him. So it was purely political, so they won't, but the financial institutions wouldn't mess with them. Because theoretically, you take their money. Now, you're now you're a big financial institution. So you're moving across state lines. You're now moving drug money across state lines where it's not legal, but even by the state law, and you might be open for fucking some huge criminal charges. I mean, your money laundering for fucking drug companies. So this is like could be so they wouldn't touch now. I don't know exactly what ended up happening now. But I know for years, they could they wouldn't fuck in touch them. So it wasn't as simple as someone else will come in and fill that vacuum. Immediately. Because we don't exist in a pure free market, if we did by someone and fill that up with the Obama thing, even Obama backed off of prosecuting the law of the land, because it wasn't popular. I this is still open to just like there's only so many liberties, you can remove before people are like what the fuck it's true. I mean, I don't know dude look at fucking North Korea. Look at some of these countries, there are some governments that can remove a lot of fucking liberties, and it doesn't and you're right. You can only do so much of it's not popular. This is absolutely true. Look, even fucking military dictator will be pretty cool. If one hundred thousand people show up on his palace, fuck lawn and are like we want policy X, believe me pretty quickly that military dictator goes. You know, I've thought about it, and I'm initiating policy X because there's one hundred thousand people on his lawn that will drag them away. So what they do is a slow propaganda campaign to move you more and more and more into that direction. And if they can move popular support into that direction, it will fucking. Clampdown on every last civil liberty. So I'm I'm not disagreeing with you. Look in the context of the free market, someone would come in and fill that vacuum right away. But that's not exactly the context that we live in. We live in the context of a free market with agents with fucking assault weapons. So how much arrest, you, it is that companies with the leftist are going to start precluding, or really having affect on people like take yourself, maybe podcast get so large, they realize, hey, days Smith got a really big platform that is counter to our companies beliefs and so regarded him like Amazon impact, you think theoretically that can have on your life. Well, look theoretically, if let's say they went after. They kicked me off Twitter, kicked me off. I tunes kick went after my sponsors, and went after whatever company hosts gas digital network dot com. Because someone's putting us on the internet. I don't understand how it works. But they could ruin me. The aerobically, right. I mean, they could ruin me tomorrow. They could put my career out of business. I'll be back on the fuck in road. Doing bullshit talkin shows away from my kid for a better life. Shut it down already. I want to be on the fucking road doing comedy. I didn't even you know what I'm going to be lobbying to shut this shit down. All that, but no, I mean look, the could be ruined and do I think it has an effect on the public discourse. When pretty much, you know, anybody who gets to popular holding the wrong political views gets get silenced. Yeah, I think it's really bad. I think it's very bad. I think it's a big threat. But I also think that as you said before I don't think it's a threat coming from a free market bubble. And I actually think that moving toward more of a free market is probably our best guard against listen. What Tucker, I think gets wrong about all this is number one that the libertarian position is not whatever we don't care start your own net flicks. The libertarian position might be. It would be really great. If you could start your own net flicks, it'd be really great. If you could start a free speech platform. The libertarian position is simply that bringing the government into regulate these things is probably going to make it way worse. And is wrong is like immoral. So that's. That's my only response. But I don't think we can just pretend that this threat doesn't exist. I actually find the woke capitalism thing to be pretty fucking creepy. I think it's pretty creepy when corporations are deciding we didn't like a policy. So we're it's like they're using it's new, and it's on. Yes, we'll look there. He said he is a good word for it. They like all of a sudden, like wait a second. You guys are business. And now you're gonna start pushing for abortion, and they're using a libertarian path to push status agenda. They're going. We will use boycotts to make sure the government has more control. Those there's something creepy about that to me. It's kinda it's no different than the gay Baker thing, the, the guy who was like, we, you know, I don't want to bake a cake for your and I was like, yeah. Governments have nothing to do with that. So I grew with that same thing here. I don't know if you're Walt Disney and you really feel so pro-abortion that you don't want to be involved in a state. That's antiabortion. That's you're right, yet, the Disney thing doesn't really doesn't creep me out. Nearly as much as the, the social media, and that doesn't creep me out nearly as much as the financial companies that right? That's the thing that starts to creep me out. But again, that as I said before, is a mic. This is a status. You can't remove financial institutions in two thousand nineteen America from the state. You know, my own directly there's subsidies, there's already. They're Jesus Christ. Not subsidies subsidiaries of the Federal Reserve. Thank you, Brian. That's, that's what they are. Sometimes I can't talk, I have a baby. I don't sleep that much. I let's play end of talk go ahead. I think if you see enough of this, it's gonna be unpopular because people like to have control in a least when it's coming through government, they feel like they vote for government in there, some element of control. Whereas, I think even if you're, you are kind of able to vote with your dollars and maybe go to different places. I think if all of a sudden, all banks, like Univision started making decisions about things like abortion, people be like, oh, I don't like that. That's not what the job. Well, you just touched on something that I that I think is, is actually getting to what the solution is, which is that it starts to, you know, and maybe this is somewhere in area where I don't walk it as much as I talk it. But I, maybe I gotta fucking get involved because we'd have to do this, in some type of organized way. But what it comes down to that. Look, I hate when Tucker Carlson says and other people say this to where they go, well, at least with the government, you get to vote for them with with private companies, you don't vote for them, and it's like, well, no, no. The government, you may vote, but you're forced in either way. No matter who wins with private companies you do vote by spending your money with them. And I'm starting to think that the only answer to this is going to be it's like okay, well, these financial companies want or whoever the company has some company wants to kick off right wing people, or they wanna come after people who are gun owners. Well, then, guess what everyone who supports gun rights needs to fucking boycott that company? I actually think this is a way better way to affect change. Then then voting. What are you gonna do? You vote for Donald Trump to get a wall. Guess what? You don't have a wall. You've haute for Obama to end these wars. Guess what? You don't end these wars if for Republicans to balance the budget. Guess what? They spend even more you vote for Democrats to protect civil liberties. Guess what? They're worse than Republicans on them. You know. So it's like the voting thing doesn't seem to work to me. But if you had a mass, the only thing that's going to, to me balance. This out is to really put the fear of the market and some of these companies you can almost it. I'm not going to work on this. But maybe someone out there will like a social media union, by the way. Great way to start sons. Yeah. Fruitcakes guys like a social media union, where people like me think a social media should be a free speech platform, take YouTube. I think everyone should be up on there. So let's get a bunch of all sign that. Hey, I watch YouTube on a daily basis. But if you start pulling conservative us from here, I'm not going on your platform anymore, and I mean it's all numbers in dollars, if they see hey, we're going to lose twenty percent of the people that are coming, our website if we could actually if people were able to get together and do it in an organized way, and I know voting block, but for consumption individualists aren't great at collective action. Yeah, this is part of the reason why the, the right always loses to the left people who are more certainly why libertarians lose to status because they are just more inherently see themselves as collectives but to me that seems to be the only one I let's play some more of this Tucker Carlson v the end of the second amendment, the words would remain in the Bill of rights, but they would be entirely symbolic. Big companies would have rendered them meaningless. It's not a right. If you can't exercise it, and that's where we're heading. It's not far off conservatives had been trained to see government as the only real threat to human freedom, and for much the last hundred years, that may have been true. It's not true anymore. The tyranny of woke capital is real and it's terrifying just because they're selling, you products doesn't mean it's not a dictatorship Ethan Bearman host left post news in California, and he joins us tonight. I would think this would be the one subject on. Which you might find common cause, and I'm amazed by how many on the west are more than happy to give up their principles that they defended for generations. Because some big company is making liberal noises. Does this terrify you as much as terrifies me? It doesn't only because we have such a track record from the right as well. I mean we have. That went all the way to the supreme court. No, it does a little bit because we I love it. So what's, what, what is brilliant about this Tucker Carlson segment is now he brings in a lefty to argue this, which is a whole different angle than what we've been coming at it for. But you would think that any lefty wood would completely great because their whole thing is that, you know corporations. Government's already tempered when corporations make attempts at removing people's freedoms. But the idea that you're comparing the major financial institutions, the social media company is the two Chick-fil-A. Well, you guys got Chick-fil-A. It's like right. But that's Chick-fil-A is actually an example. Where are libertarian think works perfectly without even arguing you're like, okay, they don't go to Chick-fil-A go. There's like a million other fast food joints. So that's it's pretty funny. Go Chick-fil-A verse Chase Manhattan Bank or something like that. I mean it's just, you know, not exactly the same thing Bill. Let's play some more of this station, but it's happening on both sides. Tucker on the left actually. Absolutely is maybe fifty years, but me a large multinational corporation in this country. That's right of center. Well, we named one Chick-fil-A we have bass pro shops. We have hobby lobby. We have. Papa john's. Oh for real. Against American Express Bank of America serious. Really? So I mean. These are companies that put values out there. Okay. So you're okay with a company like Disney doing business in China or Netflix doing business in Malaysia, where human rights are an afterthought in Malaysia, homosexuality is legal. That's totally cool because they make progressive noises when they're in the United States, you willing to overlook that, that's what you're saying. Absolutely not. What I'm saying. So China and Malaysia clearly have significant problems. But what we have here, Disney has an influence in the United States. We have control over our own country. Georgia is moving away from women, having a right to control their own bodies while simultaneously. We have groups on the right who reject providing birth control hobby lobby again. So you would think if you wanna cut down on abortion, we should make flee. Control available. Where's the closer toppy lobby? Do you have your paws, right there, because that's hard for me to not address this old trick of the left, that if you're against this, then you have to before the government giving you out this. It's like when I don't I mean, by the way, I am for. Fucking like a making it legal to give birth control over the counter, like I'm okay with that. Make it a little bit easier. But by the way, I think birth control might be off on this, but I think it's twelve bucks a month at WalMart. The idea that like birth control is so impossible for fucking women to get an in American do nineteen just fucking my wearing condoms. Yeah. Twelve bucks a month. Well, the girls still put that even on birth control. Let me just tell you, it's be safe here. But it is like, well, no. I don't have to before the government, providing something for free. If you believe abortion is murdering a baby like that's that doesn't follow at all. It's like if you're against sickness, then you have to four government mandated healthcare, like no, I don't I can actually believe both of these things, and there's nothing contradictory about them, but it is interesting how he goes there. So like. You just see. And some of this really is like the bigotry of low expectations because you see how quickly they're like China, Malaysia their problems. But Alabama's doing this terrible thing. It's like okay, you, you really want to compare the oppression of women in Alabama to the oppression of women in Malaysia. Really? I mean okay. Think Alabama's gonna win that one. But all right. Let's keep lying. No, I don't usually walk into a hobby. I don't have that kind of hobby that I really so. Okay. Let me question. Do you think that is that a, a woman's first loyalty should be to the company? She works for or to her family. I think her first loyalty should be to herself and her family. And if she believes in God is should be to God in her country companies should be the first place of loyalty. Not us. Does it make? Well, it's, it's, it's the position of companies that you're Judy ought to be to them and to shareholders. And that's why they're weighing in on a question is intimate as the question of motion. Okay. So does it make you a little bit? Nervous that Disney or Netflixing have strong feelings about abortion, that doesn't bother you at all. Would it bother you fan strong feelings about jenex? I mean, they, they might Well, I, I mean that's a much bigger discussion of why companies have first amendment rights. I've this Rowan. No, they're actively in favor of abortion. What do you think that is because they're so progressive? Or maybe there's I don't think that they're actively favor stating the position Tucker actively in favor of worsen. They're actively in favor of women having rights over their own bodies. And most of us. Collection of cells at day, three of conception is not a baby until they soul has entered the body and we're not even having that rational. This. Hutchison. Just pause right there. And this is I'm done with the interview now but I just thought that was the most amazing thing ever that Tucker got some left wing guy to say this. There's two things right there. Well, I, he's we're not having a rational conversation about when the soul enters the body, which is just might be my favorite thing that anybody's ever said before ever, let's rational conversation about when your soul enters, your body, okay? Birds fly over, and they deliver the baby. Some altitude. Really, I don't even listen. I've, I've stated my opinion on the abortion issue before, but I don't think scientifically and rationally speaking, if you're going to say when the human life begins, I actually don't think it's crazy. All the say that it begins at conception. I actually think that that is the only. Non arbitrary time to start where human life begins, then you can feel however you feel I think the reason why most people are okay with a boarding, three day old fetus, but not okay with a boarding, a eight month old fetus is purely emotional, if you really get down to it, you're just like, well, that looks a lot more like a baby. It seems a lot more like a baby. But it's not really a rational thing. I mean we've talked about this before it was is it the heartbeat is at the brainwave is it when it feels pain is it when it dreams when the organs are fully functioned, by the way, all of these things are in the first trimester. But regardless of that the. Anyway, there's no rational conversation about when the soul enters the body, but forget that, what's really amazing is that you've got now, because the there are these woke capitalists to use Tucker, Carlson's term. You now have people on the left arguing that they're doing this because they care about women's rights. That's why these see what you were doing right, rob before. When you were like, well, you know, I think it's because there's all these people who work for them who are left-wing progressives in Hollywood, they're not as concerned about the right wing guy here. They you're assigning market forces to how a big, huge corporation would work because that's reasonable to assume that they're all working on some bigger moral plant like to hell with the shareholders. I just really believe in women's right to choose is insane. And by the way, it would also be a legal believe, because they have to serve the share. Holders. That's what these fucking CEO's are there to do. That's their contractual, obligation and legal obligation. But forget all that the idea that some left-wing guy would argue that is really quite something you're like, oh, so all the sudden when it comes out in your favor capitalism, isn't all about profits when it comes out in your favor big corporations don't care about profits over people. They actually care that people over profits. I never realized that was possible. So I guess, only when it comes out on your side of the political issue, but when it does, then you go here, these noble, moral multinational corporations. It's I like that Tucker. There's something interesting about this piece. It's an interesting challenge to libertarians. I do think we have an answer to it, but it's not as easy answer as some of us including myself would like it to be. But there is something amazing about getting a left wing or to defend multinational corporations and just. Oh, what about Chick-fil-A hobby lobby there on the other side? All right. We are. We're pushing up toward the end of time. Let's go to a crazy bitch watch. What do you say? Crippling our unit is what's your plan? So here's the plan, actually anybody cell phone, and you can take a look at the plant anybody who's got stick long. Elizabeth Warren dot com flash debt. I'd rather not is a wealth tax on the top one tenth of one percent, fifty million and first dollar you got to pitch in two cents. And for everyone after that. And with that we can cancel student loan debt for about ninety five percent of the people who have it is. Mole these. The second Elizabeth Warren actually hits you with the sham. Well, but wait, there's more coal right now. You'll also get an extra tube of looking car gel, these two pennies from rich people. All right. What's what's more, Elizabeth Warren sense? We can not only do that. We can also provide universal tuition free technical school, to your college and four year college for every one of our kids. We can do universal childcare for every baby age zero to five. Universal pre for every three year old and four year old in his country and raise the wages of every child care worker in preschools. Say to all of the wonderful vans, you have they use the s word socialism. How do you come to act that type of assault, you know, forty three million Americans who would ceased in loan canceled under my plan? I think right there. That's where you can't you cancel it by making it real. It's in this country, either our values to we think that the two cents should stay with the top one tenth of one percent. They can't pitch in two cents on the fifty million and I are we're not saying they're bad people were just saying when you do that pitch into cents. So everybody. I'm done with with this. Okay. You know what they're going to say. This is socialism. That's what I'm going to say when I'm gonna say is, you're crazy bitch. That's what I'm gonna fuck and say that you, you're out of your goddamn mind, and which is really saying, this is just infuriating yet. But I'm gonna give stuff to people and the people that receive stuff, we're going to be so happy that it called the beneficiaries of wealth distribution has Roche. Eliza. Well short social, this even like intelligence socialism sales strategy with the two two cents. Because what she's actually describing the two percent to possess. It sounds better. Ask him to do is kick in two cents of every dollar. Yeah. To senate. It's a two percent tax now. Okay, fine. But you're right. It is good sales strategy. Two cents risky for two cents for two cents takes two cents. Okay. Everything you everyone for two cents, man watching the view. If you watch enough of it in a really convince you that women women shouldn't be allowed to vote. Swear them in more, I watched the view the more like the founders knew what they were talking about man. I don't know if you just. The views. Just two cents. She just got me everything for two cents, she's awesome. Oh my God. Okay. Let's take a second to tear, this apart because every inch of this is wrong from her math, not adding up to her understanding, this is just great left-wing economics like and they don't get anything. So all we have to do is, is tax, two percent of every dollar you have after fifty million dollars, and it is from what they're saying fucking a wealth tax, so, okay? So the number one assumption would be that this won't change anyone's behavior, because, you know, people who have fifty million dollars or more people, fifty million dollars won't be affected by this. But people have more than fifty million fifty million one dollar they're gonna have to pay two cents. So for everybody who has fifty million and one or more dollars. You know, those type of people, they don't have a countenance or tax lawyers. They don't know how to manipulate the system at all. I mean they're just gonna they're gonna just claim the exact same amount as what they have now it'll be exactly the same. You're not do you remember? What was the when ObamaCare I got past? And I believe it was I might be wrong about this. But I believe the number was fifty five employee's you had to have, and then you had to get health insurance for everybody, and they noticed that, shockingly, the year after ObamaCare. There were a record number of businesses that had fifty four employee's. Right. Because people structure their business their finances around the rules. So believe me, you will have a record number of millionaires who have exactly fifty million ninety nine cents or shortly thereafter. This is what's going to happen. You're just gonna have people. So you're a Suming when you say this will pay for all of this shit that none of those adjustments will happen, right? You're suming. It'd be exactly the same. Like, if we had everybody had the exact same income, the exact same NetWorth as they have right now, then we would get X amount of money, but it won't be exactly the same. It will be drastically different the other end of this. Right. Is she goes, I it's a lie that she says we can cancel student loan debt, if you actually look into her proposal, it's, it's something like they'll help with, like fifty thousand dollars worth of student loan debt. If you make under two hundred thousand dollars a year, it's, you know, she gives some loan forgiveness, but she's not canceling everybody student loan. But then she says she's gonna make college tuition free for two year schools trade schools and four year schools. And the assumption is that everybody will still go to the same school when it's tuition free. Do you think that maybe just maybe part of the reason why some people go to two year schools and trade schools instead of four year schools is because they're cheaper? Do you think that might have an effect on why some people go into those schools? So what do you think gonna happen when they're all tuition free? I think more people are going to go into the four year schools and you know what that's gonna do. It's gonna drive your costs way up. So now you're entire calculation. Even the bullshit calculation that you're starting with has been completely shot. Because more people are going to go into the four year schools driving your costs up and you can't pay for only if we just take three pennies. Holy shit. Rob slew, my fucking mind. Three three red KENNY'S. We could get it. Now imagine. Oh. Taking full pain. I always wanted us to say this back in two thousand sixteen comment isn't it? Don't you kind of feel like sometimes that you could win the democratic nomination for president and all you'd have to do is? I remember when it was Hillary Clinton versa. Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton was like, we should raise the minimum wage to twelve dollars an hour and Bernie Sanders would be like twelve thousand hours and enough. We should raise it to fifteen dollars an hour, and then you feel like you could just be on that stage ago. Sixteen and everyone got. Shit. This guy's a fucking genius. Sex-change dollars. Hour. Now. That five minute apps. Video thing. That was something about Mary. Here's what about five minutes. Now six it's this is this is so fucking ridiculous. And then I'll tell you this is the part and maybe I am somewhat influenced by my position in life as the father of a daughter, which I try to bring up as much as possible. But I think I probably would have thought of this even before I had a kid, but I gotta tell you really as I have a kid. I just find it creep e- when she goes, and we will provide free daycare for children age zero through five so O K, the idea now is that I'm supposed to take my child at age zero. And give them to the government. I mean. Who I have more respect for the socialists, or the, the democratic socialists or the social Democrats, in the Nordic countries who are arguing, we should give you paid maternity leave so that you can be with your kids for the first year of their life, then I have for this brand of progressivism that saying give your kids to the government. I mean, if we're going to start taking these rich people's pennies and giving them to poor people, I mean or giving them to working class. People can we like let them go raise their kids and not say, give your kid over to the government. What kind of society, do you wanna create here? It's not enough that the government has your kid from age five to eighteen now. We gotta get in on those first five years, I'm sorry. This is not like that is not a healthy way to develop. The first four to five years of your child's life are incredibly important, formative years. And to, to say that they're not what they need is their mom, and their dad man, like that's who they need to be around as much as possible. At least one of them preferably, both of them, but to just say, we're going to take that kid and give it to the government drop. Your kid off in some government run daycare poof. Holy shit has just man. Like, I don't know what type of person you think you're going to end up producing from that. But that is, let's just say far from ideal. All right. I had another one plan. But we don't have time for that. Maybe we'll use that as a next week's crazy bitch watch. Anyway. They guys for listening. Makes you go. Follow Robert Bernstein at Robbi the fire on Twitter. Check out his other podcast run year mouth, excellent show, absolutely hilarious. As I said, me and Robertson will both be up at. Pork fest, like, yeah, so look for us up there and yeah, thanks for listening. Ooh. The other announcement that I wanted to make, which, I haven't I believe we haven't finalized a date for yet. But we will be hosting our first ever official. Formal debate on part of the problem that I will be moderating doing my best to be objective, and neutral. But we will have a debate between. Gene. Epstein, and Ben Burgess. We've made this happens will becoming into studio. I will be moderating, and they will be debating, I believe the limit. See if we've were sexy Alphand around the board, like the points board user point sport at debate. Our screw is yes, in every single in every single instance that you ask the question. Hold on. Let me just see if I can find I believe the resolution that we will be debating. I'm not sure that this is a completely been agreed to it. Might be tweaked a little bit. But the resolution will be democratic socialists can best realize their goals by creating networks of democratically run businesses within capitalism. So the idea being that gene is essentially arguing that if you want democratic socialism, fine, go do it, start your companies and run them democratically. You don't need the state in order to get involved. So that's gonna be the debate I think this is going to be really interesting. As people know, gene Epstein has been on the show. Many times Ben Burgess in me had the debate informal debate about his taxation theft. So this will be a formal debate that I will be moderating. They'll be opening statements rebuttal closing statements all that good stuff. So I'm very much looking forward to this. Both parties have agreed to it. We're still hammering out some details. But that'll be coming up in the next few weeks on very excited to have that happen. And yeah, thanks for listening. We will be back on Monday night. Brand new episode piece.

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The Milo Controversy

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The Milo Controversy

"We need to roll back the state, we've star on all of our citizens prisoners flooded with non violent drug offenders. If you wanna know who America's next enemy is look at were funding right now. Everything one of problems are resulted government way too. Yes. Hello. Hello, greetings, and salutations. Welcome to a brand new episode of part of the problem. I am. Of course, the most consistent motherfucker you know, Dave Smith the truth. The voice in Seoul of liberty the big picture, and I'm joined by as always excuse me. Never said I was a perfect wordsmith. I'm joined as always by the king of the Cox the fire Robbie Bernstein. How are you, sir? Doing. Well, man, it's good to see you happy Memorial Day. I know this is a big day for you. You, you celebrate. All those people who have died for Jewish interests abroad. And that's that means a lot union family, always, they did things for us. Yeah. They really pay tributes. Is it not worth sacrificing one of your eight fat kids for the survival of Israel? Yeah. I mean come on priorities people and these non Jews are expendable. So it's a good. A good trade. Yeah. Even if you Jews are expendable I think one for every nine non Jews. I dunno. It's in the Tomlin anyway, welcome to the brand new episode. Everybody we, we've got a lot of stuff to get into tonight. And I have to start with all of the controversy that's been afloat over the legion of skanks the, you know, a podcast that let's just say, and I don't mean this to insult my own show at all legion of skanks is one of the things that I'm most proud of in my comedy career, this is a show that we started. I, I mean, we may have recorded the first episode on a fuck in cellphone, if Bobby Kelly hadn't given us his old equipment that he wasn't using anymore. We used to record it in Lewis's tiny apartment, where he was living with, like, his, his girlfriend and a dog like. Conceive James, just trying. It wasn't even he wasn't even thinking about James when we first started leading gangs. In fact, the fucking I think the episode that he found out. I think one of the first, like five episodes was episode where he found out. Beatrice was pregnant, and he doesn't mention it on the show. But if you listen to the show Lewis acting like a real cut the whole time he was stressed out, and by the next episode manner chain down, so she couldn't aboard it. He was an early antiabortion. She was every, every few minutes, you'd get in there and be would like wrestled a hanger out of the closet. Yeah. No, no Beatrice put it down. Anyway. I love legion gangs. We built it up from absolutely nothing being this huge platform that being said, if you take legion of skanks very seriously, you may have an empty life. It's, it's possible that maybe you need a little bit. That's been my predominant source for news and philosophy. And for just generally understanding, how men should live his life, by the way, leading skanks better news source than most mainstream media outlets. But that's more comment on the news than it is, on legion of skanks. Anyway, if you guys don't know what's going on. What, what the controversy has been over the last week or so. I don't know. I don't know how to sum it up, so more or less. We invited a gay guy on the show, and then a bunch of faggots online lost their goddamn mines about it. So. Milo Yiannopoulos is the guest on legion of skanks tonight. It will be at an undisclosed location. It will not be at the creek and McCabe and it will be it'll be aired right here. You can watch it live for free at gas, digital network dot com at nine thirty and tune in because this is a cool location. We've never been there before we had to get a secure bunker related to get a place at the fans couldn't find. So if for nothing else just tune into a different setting. Yeah very good. So there is. But I'll tell you it. It's been a really crazy thing to watch this all unfold over the last the last week or so. And look. I am obviously, I'm the most interested in politics at of the skanks. I'm the most political of person on the show. Lewis, j are not guys who really exist in the world of politics and it's funny because our last episode we had Michael Malegaon, and he was talking about his new book, the new, right a journey, the fringe of American politics, which highly recommend go pick up a copy. And one of the points that he makes over and over again, in the book, is that the left is essentially in evangelical religious movement, that is hell bent on dominating every aspect of life that they are totalitarian religious movement and it's funny to see litter in the week after we had him on or during the last week, where people like Jay and Lewis were not political at all, are it's almost as if the left forces you into a somewhat political world. And then you have to choose sides and you could be ninety percent in agreement with them. Doesn't matter. You're not see your Nazi unless you're one hundred percent agreement with them. And by the way, you also have to agree to not speak to anybody who's been excommunicated and, and Milo would be one of these people who I guess, has been excommunicated from from there. Their religion, I think Jay's wardrobe would be fun for Nazis, like if they were gonna take on new uniform. I could see that work for them chain while it's the big short side. No man, I mean, I got a lot of criticisms of Nazis, but I was the uniforms were pretty point. Yeah. They needed any improvement in that direction, I think, Hitler's up there with knuckle gloves fucking Yellen away. Nine nine nine. I just don't get stuck in the chain while trying to hail that's genuinely dangerous. You got executed for that shit, not just can't be risking not being able to hail real quickly, so anyway, so Lewis j are not super political people, I probably I would venture to say that I know more about Milo and also just in general, like the state of. The kind of politics in America, whatever than than Louis j do. Say I was I was a bit surprised that the reaction was this intense now I knew. That obviously Milos very controversial figure. But truthfully speaking mile, this is like all the stuff basically with him. I think went down in two thousand sixteen. It's two thousand nineteen now this is this is years old. I didn't think it would really be that big of a deal that, that Milo was coming on the podcast. I thought that we'd get some tweets about it. We'd get somebody some pushback from open mic owners who are left wing at the creek in the cave. But, you know, one like golden rule of life that applies to every single aspect of life. Is that whatever open mic? Comedians, think doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter. It doesn't matter to anything. You're literally if you're by O says comedian, and you work a day job and you have one hundred sixty followers on Twitter, just know your opinion means nothing. It doesn't mean anything. That whether you have a good opinion or a bad opinion. It is completely irrelevant. Nobody cares. So it's like who care, I didn't think, and maybe this is because I almost like I exist in a logical framework, and I, maybe I project that too much onto other groups but I would just think that, you know, Milo was the big bad wolf. But this was like before Charlottesville before, like people saw, like who the real white nationalist. And those guys were and I just would have figured they would have moved on to other targets by now. And you know, they did a lot of damage to my lows career. So who cares, like I, I did not think it would be such a huge fucking thing, where, you know, whatever. All these people are so upset, because we, we dare to fucking have a guy on the podcast, whose views you disagree with. So it got announced that Milo was going to be on the podcast in the same way that we always announce our guests and. It right away. A lot like what happened was a lot of people started, you know, just getting flooded with tweets about how you're giving a Nazi a platform, your hate speech needs to be deployed formed, basically all the most boring. Just repetitive. Regurgitating the dogma of this bullshit, religion that is social Justice warrior ISM. I, I don't even know what to say, but it's we started getting a lot of what I must say that I was surprised by was the amount of comedians. And again comedians in air quotes, let's just say like this, right? If you. There's a weird thing with in the comedy world. Everybody who's a comedian has been there is that when you start doing stand up comedy, you call yourself a comedian, like that's kind of your title. Now, Jerry Seinfeld wrote, a great piece about this in, in, in this book called I killed and he wrote the forward and he said, being comedians like one of those jobs. We're just day one. I guess I'm a comedian and he compared it's being a pirate like when you're a pirate, you're just like pirate, you know, like if you're if you're a surgeon, you go to school you go. You know, there's a whole process, but with being pirates day one, you're a pirate and being a comedian since day one your comedian. So there's always people who kind of call themselves comedians now but there's way more than ever before. This may not sign films being there's way more than there's ever been before. And there's just not that many positions available. There's way more people applying for the position than there are actually positions available. So there are all of these people who call themselves comed-. Jeans, but really, they do an open mic once a week and they have some fucking job. They're not actually professional comedians, but they all were weighing in with a pinions, and then some people who are actually professional comedians are just I don't know. Weak minded people or something like that. We're all were tweeting me and Louis j and all this stuff. And then some people who are, like, I don't know how to say it comedy, adjacent like a few of these chicks. I don't even know exactly what they do. They kind of hang around comedy, one of them was a producer on Adam verse or Adam destroys everything. Not sorry. Confuse it with Adam destroys everything and good ideas. Yeah. That's right. You know, like the Joe Rogan podcast, did you see him on there? So she's a producer on the guy who went on and just got fucking barest when for the first time he was met with some pushback on any of his insane ideas. But anyway, so a lot of these people have been tweeting us and they're very upset. And what happened immediately was. They went to start pressuring Rebecca and Rebecca, you don't know, is the, the proprietor of the creek in the cave. And she's somebody who's been very good to us and to a lot of different comedians, and somebody who I have a special place in my heart for who's always. Just been very good to me throughout my career in comedy, and I very much appreciate Rebecca for all of that stuff. But right away, they started targeting her, and threatening boycotts. And anyway, to me, as if you followed my Twitter feed, you could have seen. I really have. I can't even put into words how little respect I have said, I there's no group I have less respect for then comedians who get their panties up a bunch about someone saying offensive things, I mean, this is, and let's just get real like you guys are all full of shit every one of you guys who and I hope some of you listen to this, you're all full of shit. All you guys who are like, oh, you know, myla's said offensive things or he's, he's a heeds. Speaks hate speech, and that's why he can't be on legion of skanks. It's like have you listened to any of our podcasts? Okay. So how about we just had David tell on recently, David tells made nigger jokes, midget, jokes, faggot jokes, all things. You could think of where you guys have the balls to protest him Ohno. You don't care to protest him. Right. 'cause it's not about making jokes about saying the wrong thing. It's that Milo doesn't share your politics. That's what this is all about. None of you guys give fuck about having like anybody. If Milo shared your politics, you would love him, you would love him because he's an outspoken gay guy who makes people laugh and makes people feel embarrassed. You would love having that guy on your team in a second. It's just that he has the wrong politics. And guess what? I don't share your politics. So I'm not gonna play by your rules. Here's the thing, that's funny. Is that I get so much shit from these same people. That will say. They'll say things about me like they'll be like, you know, Dave is Dave a Republican. He just won't admit it. You know, this is the criticism. They make of libertarians they go. You're basically a Republican you. You're just too embarrassed to admit your Republican, and own it. And so you, you go this libertarian route or something like that. And it's like, oh, okay. Yeah. Sure. I'm a right wing Republican who just happens to hate the military in the cops, you know, they're fucking religion like literally that's that is the right wing version of their religion that you're not allowed to speak ill of, is the cops in the military, and I've been saying for my entire podcasting career, especially my entire career and political commentary. Fuck those two groups of people I actually think there they do more damage than anybody else. Now not to say there are some good ones. Particularly in the military. Who you know, give money to antiwar causes, and don't want to be caught up in that bullshit. But I'm like, not at all supporter of the military or the cops. I've been consistent on that, my you know. For over a decade. So shirt. Yeah. I'm just a Republican whatever I'm just a Trump supporter. I've heard this before you know. I mean, sure I'm advocating that he be impeached and locked up for prosecuted for war crimes, but I guess that's just your classic Trump supporter move. It's like here's the thing, right? I actually hate the left-wing and the right wing in America, I find both of them. There are things they believe in that. I think are horrible like both of them. But the reason why you guys think I'm more of a right winger is because of this, this is how much these lefties fuck and suck. Like just tell me, maybe I'm wrong, honest question. But rob, can you actually imagine could you imagine any scenario? Of a left wing guy. Let's say we had a left wing guy on legion of skanks like a real left-wing. I mean I don't know think of the guests we've had on. I mean, we had Jamie kill Stein on the show. But let's say we had Jamie Kelsey non at the height of his social Justice warrior leftist, period. We had those the girls from guys we fucked like, the they're like superfeminist checks, but I mean, imagine any other left-wing person who we had on, can you? Imagine a bunch of right wingers, boycotting the creek threatening to show up throw milkshakes at us. Can can you imagine that happening? I, I'm not asking you a genuine question has that ever happened anywhere ever? So if you guys are out there like why does Dave criticize the left more than the right it's because of you? You're the reason why because of bitches like you just just the most Sheild est childish bitch shit. I could imagine. I mean to the point that they have no sense of irony there, actually talking about throwing milkshakes. Like what grown man is pissed off at another, man. And that's that's where they go. I'm gonna throw a milkshake on. Okay. Get creamed. Yeah. Really like this. I mean, this is you could expect better behavior out of an eight year old if like an eight year old boy was, like, I'm going to go through a milkshake on someone. I'd like you'd be like be a man. That's what you would tell that eight year old boy you you'd be like, either. Like, I don't know maybe challenge them to fight or something, what are you doing your eight or maybe like talk to them? Also milkshakes are expensive. It doesn't even make a lot of sense. Yeah. Gonna store. Wait in line. Get where you're gonna have to get to. 'cause they're going to eat one in route. You're not just gonna go pick. It's got to be really unsatisfying by milkshake. Not take one sip and throw it. Yeah. They're getting a few sips. That'd be Larry's. It's all fat us, and they show up like fuck. We finished our milkshakes. Yeah. That'd be great. Well, look. I mean, here's the truth me. Louis j are probably not the guys to throw a milkshake at and think everything's gonna be okay like what we're just going to be like. Oh, no, they threw a milkshake at me. I feel so embarrassed. Forget me I'm not even trying to link on some tough guy. I'm not a fucking. I don't know. I'm gonna dolt man. So, yes. If you throw a milkshake on me, you're probably expect to confrontation after that. But just forget me take me out of the equation. Do you think you're gonna throw a milkshake at Louis j Goma's? Why? And that's just going to be like, oh, yeah. Okay. That just happened. You think there's not going to be an altercation after that? You think you're going to waste perfectly good milkshake in front of big J, O, Carson. And there's not gonna be an altercation after that against his religion. But in all seriousness though, I mean big j will flatten somebody if they came to. So now what's going on? Right. Is that? And this is the craziness is that these, these guys who have like a big knockout whining hook. It's definitely not a straight. It's like an uppercut uppercut and move. They will grow up. Jay is a very boxer. Oh on. Oppor on you. He'll he'll go grab your arms throw an uppercut or he might thrown overhand. But Jay Jay is very strong. He's actually a lot stronger than you would think jazz like grapple around with Jay. Even though he's real big dude. And you're like no big freakishly strong because he good hitting movement. But with a big winding hook, that's where I seem knocking people out quite possibly. But it really you know, let me just say this, because I've got a lot of thoughts on this, and I don't wanna get too out of order. Let me say this to the fucking comedians out there, the in quote marks comedians at their who have been talking shit to legion of skanks is threatening to boycott the creek in the cave, just know like we all see you. We see what you're doing. It's fucking pathetic. And like, don't think you're not going to run into us at some point, and this isn't a threat like you're gonna run into I'm gonna beat the shit out of you. This is like I'm gonna fucking embarrassed. Hugh verbally the next time I can see you. And then there's another group a subgroup after that the ones who are fucking advocating, people bring milkshakes to the show, which this is the new thing of the left. I mean do you guys own mirrors at home like take a look in one what a bitch, you are. You're advocating throwing milkshakes at people anyway for you guys that straight, that is that is an assault, and you're advocating people assault me, my friends, and the guests on my show that might be a whole different situation when we can run into you. And by the way, there was already one of these guys who had to deal with a situation like that last night. I'll just leave it at that. But he knows who he is. And he walked away looking at as fuck and feet not feeling great about himself. So anyway, what another thing that I've seen people doing I've seen comedians doing this is that they tagged. They started. Tagging antiga New York chapter in their tweets. Like to bring in the fuck in the arm. Army of bitches behind them, so that now they're trying to create a situation where people are going to show up with things to throw it us at the creek and these anti fa guys these, these fucking gender. Studies majors who throw fucking black mask on their face and show up with the fuck in padlock or whatever. And they're going to get into something, they're gonna show up to all because we're having Milo on our show. Now, I see the arguments themselves that these people are making are almost too stupid to even combat. Like I saw one person, you know, and this has come up quite a bit. But that they say that the creek is an inclusive venue. And this is why we can't have Milo there, which I mean they just unrelentingly will be like we want. We want this to be an exclusive inclusive venue. So we have to exclude this guy to be inclusive, like, okay. The, the other thing that, you know, is that his, his speech is dangerous. That's the argument that the Milo of the Milo speeches is going to threaten somebody. So in other we have to deep platform this hate speech because this could lead to violence, and I remember some of those speeches. He gave two years ago before they basically got rid of, you know, all of speaking gigs. Those those turned out terribly. I mean horrible things people melted in those audience. Yeah. Things that were problems at some of the speeches because these anti fa motherfuckers would show up and try to cause all these problems. Look man. Here's a thing if you want to say that there is dangerous speech or there are some of these people like you wanna say Milo is so racist and horrible that his you know, he he's going to him. Speaking is going to lead to the possibility of violence. It's like okay. So that's your starting point. All right. So even if I were to accept that what is calling everyone you disagree with the Nazi. What does that lead to? I mean, do you not think that provokes a certain degree of violence that anybody who you just don't like is now a Nazi look to call? I've watched a good amount of Milo videos, back in the day, you know, around two thousand fifteen two thousand sixteen when he was getting big. I've read a few of his pieces when he was writing at Breitbart dot com. I disagree with him on, on a fair amount of stuff. But truthfully speaking, most of the things I disagree with Milo on was just like that. He was far too moderate, and really. Was kind of like even though he was like flamboyant, and Laird, and, like, provocative, he'd kind of come back to his actual positions just being a typical Republican, and he was like a big fan of Rudy Giuliani. That's kind of my beef with Milo. It was like, if you're going to be this dangerous radical be radical, like actually stand for something different, but to argue that Milo is a racist. Is a pretty difficult argument to make in my opinion. I mean first of all, I know this isn't mean anything to the left anymore, but he is married to a black dude. That still for me. And you and people who still exist in the plane of sanity that, that kind of indicates, you're probably not that big of a racist, if you're acted bang in a black dude, you're probably don't hate black people. But this is literally where people are at that I've seen, because I've been following stuff inside of you quite quarterly. So I mean, at least I don't know who's inside a who. But that's my guess, so there is a watching these people on Twitter and stuff. It's really funny where they'll be like, you know, they're like, well, that doesn't matter. It doesn't matter even if you marry a black that doesn't mean you're not racist obvious. They really believe in love, and they know that he raised, but it was this one guy, so special. So anyway, it's it really is something. But this is like they'll go. You know, like, when the proud boys were getting accused of being Nazis and the response that a lot of them had was, they'd be like, but we have like black members and Latino members and all this, and they'd be like that doesn't mean anything they can be Nazis to all. And this is like the new thing where you're kind of, like I don't even know how to wrap my head around it. You're like so you're saying Nazis are this big problem. But they've gotten pretty inclusive over the years and they don't hate minorities anymore. So, like, which one is it? I don't know does that is it not when you when you call someone a racist the term racist and we were talking about this last week or last episodes. Michael mouse, it's this broad term that can mean like there's a huge spectrum of what being a racist could mean so racist could be the Nazi is, systematically, executing Jews, or it could be slavery or Jim crow. Or black codes or like something like that. Or it could be crossing the street when you see a black guy 'cause you're nervous about him, or it could be, you know, saying the blacks instead of blacks, like it's there's this huge spectrum where it can be like the worst offenses in human history, or the most minor offence that everybody is guilty of committing at some point. All right. Let's take a quick second and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is blue you can go grab some at blue dot com. Blue offers men performance enhancement for the bedroom, wouldn't you like to last longer a few extra rounds? Well at blue dot com. 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You get your first order free. You just have to pay five dollars for shipping. So it's great deal. A great product start having some better sex enjoy life. More Baluchi dot com. All right. Let's get back into the show. So there's this spectrum between the worst shit that's ever existed and something anybody could be guilty of, and so you just hear the word and it's brilliant propaganda because it almost empl. Is the worst thing ever. But then they can label anybody. They want to be racist. Okay, if you're talking about the worst Shet the reason why the word is repugnant to most decent people. You're talking about the really really bad stuff being married to a black dude, kind of eliminates all of that. So if you mean racist like he's politically incorrect. He's been critical of black lives matter, like, okay, I guess, maybe you could level that at him for most reasonable people, I think you'd have a pretty hard time making a convincing argument. That Milo is a racist to say that Milo is a Nazi is fucking insane, just insane. And I don't know what else to say about that. There is nobody I will put this open invite to anybody who wants to come in on part of the problem and have this conversation with me have this debate with me, if you think you can argue that Milo is a Nazi come in and argue that with me. It's just insane. And this is from a guy who disagrees with them on a bunch of stuff that he said, I wasn't a Trump supporter. He was a huge Trump supporter. We have lots of disagreements again for the people on the fucking left. Right. Here's the indifference. I have lots of lots of disagreements with Milo. I, I don't know. Exactly. But I bet we have major profound differences, like he's a Trump supporter. I'm an anarchist. My guess would be he supports the military. I don't my guess would be he's, he's in favor of Rudy Giuliani. I bet he's a real cop lover. I'm not really major differences. Guess what we're going to sit down tonight and do a podcast. We're gonna laugh, we're going to have a good time. And I bet you will leave fucking like we're cool. That's the difference between him. And you guys I have disagreements with you guys. It's like well, you're a Nazi then or as I've been told recently, I'm a Nazi sympathizer. There's another angle, by the way. If you wanna play this whole game of being offended by words like someone said something, that's so offensive, which is really what you're playing. That's all that Milos done is he's said some. Things that you find -fensive like, okay, fine. Well. At the risk of almost sounding like one of these left-wingers like I don't wanna get too much into playing their game. But let's be fair. There are some things that are actually really offensive to say, like I'm not against that. I I've never seen my low actually do any of that shit. But like I could imagine a certain thing, like if there was some, some white guy who walked up, whatever walk down the street and saw a black guy and was like go go pick my cotton nigger and some left, he was like that is so offensive. I'd be like absolutely, yes. That is a horrible thing to say to a black guy. And I'm sure there's other examples of things too. But, like that's just that's a horrible thing to say to somebody. So there are some things that I think it's like appropriate to be offended by that. Let me say this, calling me a Nazi sympathizer. Somebody whose family was slaughtered, by Nazis, pretty goddamn offensive thing to fuck and say, and you will just throw it out, willy nilly, like whatever. It doesn't matter. I'm just repeating the pop. Our political talking points that are completely safe that won't get me in trouble. Well, you will just say the most profoundly offensive thing. Somebody me who's a Jew of German descent, whose family kind of got fucked over by the Nazis literally my grandfather's, the only one who made it out alive. The rest were all slaughtered, whatever I don't like to play this chord lot because I don't really like it's not really relevant because what they're saying isn't even real Nazi is just a term for who you don't like. But just say that is way more offensive than anything that Milos ever said the idea that you would just use the term Nazi us something that real people suffered under for whatever you don't like I'll just vote, you know, one of the worst groups of people who have ever existed just to, to score some political points. That is so much more offensive than Milo Yannopoulos saying feminism is cancer, or whatever else, he said he told he told his story of. Having sex as a teenager with an adult man and said he didn't feel bad about it. Okay. If you shared your politics, you would say it's victim blaming to blame him for that situation right. It's just it's fucking insane. So the same the same group of people who will say that Milos words are so dangerous will now say that calling everybody disagree with a Nazi is okay. That's no big deal. And also throwing milkshakes at people is funny, somehow like that's just funny. You know, a lot of people that I've seen online have made the point, because they're actually, as argument, you really can't believe it. But again, I've said this many times before, if social Justice warriors cared about being logically consistent, they wouldn't be social Justice warriors. So there's almost no point in even talking to them about that. But just for the same people who are listening, the same people who will argue that, you know, microaggressions are violence will also argue that throwing a milkshake at someone isn't violence. That's just fine. And a lot of people on Twitter have made the point where they've been like you know, there's people who have had like acid attack. Wchs. And when you're being attacked, you really have no idea, whether that's a milkshake or acid. You don't really know it kind of takes a second to see that, but. And it's a fair point. But leave that aside. If can throw a milkshake on somebody and just think that's okay. Like they're just going to take that tell you something. And I said, this is somebody who's committed to nonaggression if somebody throws a fuck and milkshake on somebody, and that guy beats them unrecognizable. I completely get it might be a little bit of overreaction. But I don't think anybody watching that video is going to be like, oh, no. That was, why would that guy do that? You're a grown man and you go and throw a milkshake on another man be prepared for fucking confrontation. So anyway, here's the thing, right? And this is like what it really comes down to is that the situation for all these people like Milos a Nazi, which is just fucking ridiculous. I really I really think it comes down to the fact that people have people used the term racist, so loosely that it holds no wait anymore. So now they have to go to Nazi. But it's just, you know, like I said, trying to argue that Milo is a racist difficult argument trying to argue that he's a Nazi is just downright stupid. I mean and it's just it's, it's so dumb. It's I don't even know why spending time responding to it. I guess just because it's been said, by so many people. But you're going to argue that it's dangerous to give this guy a platform. That's, that's what a lot of people are saying and. It's not as if we're plucking Milo out of obscurity, and giving a platform Milos a pretty big person, you know, he's been on Rogan. He's been on Bill Maher show. He's been on a bunch of big shows, so it's not as if we're creating my low, we're booking somebody who we think is an interesting, guess that's going to be a funny podcast because by the way, that's the agenda of legion of skanks, the only agenda that shows ever had is to put out a funny show. So you can say it's dangerous to give this guy platform. Here's what would have happened if none of these people had reacted the way they had, we would have had Milo on, we would have had what I'm assuming is going to be a really funny show. Maybe not a funny show. Maybe we all would have left friends, maybe we wouldn't have gotten along. Maybe it wouldn't have been great. My guess is would have been really funny. My guess is that the show tonight will be really funny. And that's that that's what would have happened. You guys have now started advocating that people boycott the creek in the cave, giving Rebecca all this shit putting her in a really shitty situation advocating that people show up to throw Milkins now play this out in your head. What are you going to happen, when people come in and start throwing shit at allegiance, gangs, podcast, the, it's going to lead to some type of physical altercation in which real problems are going to be caused. I saw these fuck and comedians like. There were there were comedians who are tagging as I said Antea on their tweets. Tortoise, if your one of these people who was tagging antifa, and you exist around the same scene that I exist in walk the other way, when you see me man, because it's going to be a real if you literally I don't think you understand it. You start tagging antiga this borderline terrorist organization to come down and start fucking harassing. Yeah, there's, there's antique a tweet about it. The New York antifa branch, these fucking losers. You start tagging them in it. You're saying you're basically, inviting men with fucking who wear, masks, and assault people to come down and storm, my fucking podcast, I'm just saying walk the other way when I folk and see you the next time because it's going to get really weird. And I remember exactly who these fucking people are who did that. So I'm just saying I'm not being like a dick. You're look. Man me Louis, j were all fathers. We got we all have kids, I got a baby girl, at home, and they're, you're creating a situation intentionally that is going to be a situation that, like just steer. Clear of me to all those people. Who are out there? So anyway, I, I don't even know what else to say on this, but it's so clear that you guys have created the situation that could really potentially turn into a violent situation. And so automatically I was glad that at Milo's request but contrary to what some people are fucking putting out there. It wasn't at the creek's request the, the creek requested that we moved the show, we said, no, we're not gonna move it and they accepted that. So we were going to do it there. No matter what. But Milo was like, look man. This has been like announced there's not enough security. We got up move this to a new location. And I think he's right about that probably it's best that we don't get into a fucking situation like we got kids and shit. We can't be out there, fucking getting these fights. But at the same time, by the way, as a father of a little girl, I also can't let her grow up in a world where some dude throws a fucking milkshake father, and our father doesn't beat the shit out of that guy. So it's a fucking difficult situation. You gotta, you know, it's like it's a balancing. Act. But it will be, you know, it'll be interesting to see how the podcast is received, I guess, at the end of all of this, I would just say, like. It really is a thing about the authoritarian mindset. Here's what you have to understand. You don't get to control. What other people say you don't get to you don't like Milo. That's fine. You don't get to control whether we have him on a podcast or not. We decided to have him on a podcast because we think it'll be a funny show. A lot of people were saying, oh, you're having on the show just to piss people off. It's like no, we're having on the show because we think it'll be funny. That's it. And if it pisses a lot of people off too bad deal with it. I think part of what it is with this creek people, and it's a little bit sad is that they have zero success in comedy. They're not. That funny, not that I have a ton of success in comedy, but that's not the point I'm trying to make they identify with the comedy scene. Yes. And so if the comedy scene itself isn't something that they feel like they can be proud of then they got rely density crisis, where it's like I just the only thing I have is that I'm a part of the scene that's it that they can claim to be a part of the scene. And if the scene has all sorts of things going on that they really don't like they don't have anything. So they're trying to police, your platform, so that the creek in the cave where they do an open mic is still a place. That's reflective of what they think is their comedy. But the real solution is go right? Better jokes. And actually, you know, do what you actually are trying to do, and find fulfilling because it's other things just I don't know. It's counterproductive for your own career, and it's just gross. Yeah. No look. I completely agree with you. And there's something that's really interesting about the New York comedy in that is very like. Like exactly what you just described. It's emblematic of that exact like you have this weird world. I followed Dave Chapelle at stand up, New York. When I was, I believe a year into comedy, maybe a year and a half into comedy. And just he just happened to drop in on the show I was doing. And then I went up after and this was like Dave chappelle lake right after the show. It was real fucking like it was insane. And lots of people have stories like that. And there's and I have no business being on the same show him like what was I? He's the biggest name in comedy like a just started doing comedy, but it was a fucking poster dog show as we used to call them Lewis produced and Chapelle dropped in and having to be at a big comedy club. And so that's the way things go and you have this in the comedy world in New York City, particularly, where there are people who are nothing at the absolute bottom there. Very close to people who are doing real things, and it's not, not as big a contrast is a year comedian, Dave L, but at the creek in the cave, you will have in open mic. That's coming in right after legion of skanks. So we'll be doing a show in this room that is broadcast to hundreds of thousands of people. And then after that some person who's been doing hominy for three months. We'll come into that same space and tell jokes, you know, and like there's something kind of beautiful about that. I kind of like it. It's, it's, it's, it's there's something cool about that. But then there's also something where like you said, there are these people who really now they've been doing comedy, three months year two years for years, whatever, and they have nothing and they identify as like creek comic, and I hang out at the creek and I do the mic there all the time. And then when this thing about skanks comes up there like will, you know, as a member of the creek community, and it starts to make them feel like they're a part of this bigger. Thing. And so it's almost like they want to get in on it, and you don't want to actually take a ballsy stance that might actually get you alienated or get in trouble. So you just take the, the, the easy stance of well, I don't think Nazis should have a platform like, you know, whatever you just kinda wanna feel like you're a part of this thing. I mean my first reaction when I actually saw that people were talking about boycotts and, and, you know, posting the map of the creek, and then where the nearest milkshake places, and all this stuff and, or is it the diner? Now there's a bet. There's places closer than the diner. Rob classic mistake you too far for your milkshakes. But when I first saw that, I mean, just as a human being forget, which, which we're all people first before whatever our politics, were people and my first thought, and maybe this is just because, like I have a six month old daughter at home. I go right away my mind I went, I guarantee no one doing this has kids no-one no-one, who's doing this has kids, but because you just don't do stuff like this. If you're a parent, if you're like I don't know, to do got to pick up diapers on the way, I don't have time to figure out where the fucking milkshake places. I have a little baby that I've got a rock to sleep tonight, and then should probably going to be up in two hours, and then I got a rocker to sleep again. And then you know what? I mean, we just like we just introduced oatmeal and then tomorrow, we're doing some focus week potatoes. So I don't really have time to worry about what's going like, did a podcast have someone. I don't like on them. And by the way, I'm way more. Critical than any of these people are the any of these people who are protesting, legion of skanks could not sit down and discuss politics with me for five minutes before it would become a parent that I've read way more than that. I know their argument better than them, and I can defeat it easily like, I'm not even trying to brag. There are people who know their shit way better than I do. There's people in the inner circle, no shit that I learned from them, and I'm like, oh, shit. This guy made a good point. This guy had a good article about this. But the people who are protesting Milo being on skanks. They know nothing. They you're not even in this world. I'm way more invested into my political opinions than you are. But I got a kid. I don't have time to give shit about who's on someone else's podcast. I, I simply don't have time because I have a life and this is what I start to wonder about some of these people. And this is the point you were making that it's kind of sad. 'cause if certain point you just go like, do you have like, do you have a girlfriend? Do you have friends? Do you have a net flicks? Password, like do you have anything else that could maybe? Fill your life. They are you this empty that you actually are very concerned? But somebody I disagree with his going to speak on a show. They're giving him a platform. You know, by the way, how many of these people, I think Zack Emeco posted something along these lines where he said, and zag amigo, by the way, is a guy who's, you know, I haven't had a lot of deep political conversations with Zach. But from what I understand, is pretty left wing guy. Like, would probably in some ways, be sympathetic to the anti Milo belief system. But he said something like where he was like a instead of throwing milkshakes. Why don't you guys take that money you would have spent on milkshakes and donate it to like a good cause like how many of you people for all you people like it's so easy to virtue signal online? What do you do? Do you go work at a soup kitchen? Do you send money to some 'cause that you fucking care about or is it is this all just a game? Just be honest. If any of you guys are listening to the show today. Just be honest with yourself. What is this really are you really standing up against fucking Nazis, are you. The leader of or are you a member of this fight against evil or you such a good person is that what's motivating you that you're so noble, and the rest of us, just don't care enough. Or is this just a nice way to feel that way about yourself? This just a nice excuse to feel like I I'm doing something good. I'm in this Brealey big struggle. What's your struggle against I dunno. Some flamboyant. Gay dude, says, politically incorrect shit, who's by the way been D platform on pretty much everything you could think of, who you've gone away, this motherfucker. I can only imagine what Milo actually has to live through like after seeing a like a week of what this heat is like coming at. You really something gave me a new level of respect for what friends of mine, like Gavin and like people like that have had to go through where you have to, like legitimately. Have security with you. If you like anywhere you go, if you announce that you're going there, there's going to be people like hell bent on fucking assaulting you or fucking common right up to that line. You know that's a weird. That's a weird fucking position to put somebody in and like to all these all this fucking energy. And I know I've made this point a lot of times on the show. But, like, I really do believe that the left has a role that they're supposed to fill in society. And it's just it's so disgusting to see them waste all this energy on this. Look energy passion outrage. These are all finite resources. They are finite resources you only have so much of it. There's only so many hours in a day, there's only so much energy, you can expend in twenty four hours. Okay that this is a finite resource and. We are involved in the longest wars in American history. Like we lead the world and mass incarceration. There are issues go focus on them. This is supposed to be your shit, not Milo coming on legion of skanks. You fucking children grow the fuck up man like go deal with something that matters, like lefty issues, like by the way. I'm in theory, I should be just as aligned with the left is the right. I hate both of them. But like they both make some good points. You wanna talk about Trump being a fascist, like okay. Yes, he is guess what? They they're pressing charges against Julian Assange, using the espionage act from World War, One like you wanna talk about fascist shit. Okay. There's one go for. But guess what? The whole fucking media apparatus, the whole fucking like like scene is not targeting, you at them so much easier for you to just repeat your muggles. Nutsy. Okay. All right. Fine. It's like I don't know. It's a it's really been something. It's been something to say. So anyway, I dunno I guess, more or less, that's my, that's my rant on Milo being on skanks and you guys are just not gonna like you're not gonna bully us. I don't know what to say. It's like that's I remember I was a I think six or seven years old. I used to get fucking bullied on this block like we moved to this block. That was kinda shitty and they had like a lot of real like, like white trash and a lot of kind of Puerto Rican thugs Brooklyn in like nineteen nine Lewis. Yeah. And then we can started a podcast. Yeah, it was really early margins. No one was doing. Nobody used to get bullied every fucking day, and it would be like, like twelve year olds, bullying me when I was six, and I don't know h gap. That's tough. Ooh. There is nothing scale. Carrier than twelve year old when you're six it's just like a fight. You can't win like it's, it's they're fucking like they're just huge and your and you could hit him with your best fucking punch and they're just going to end. I remember. Like, actually, I remember the day when I made the decision that I was like, I'm not gonna fucking get bullied by these kids anymore. And like I'm just gonna fucking like literally, they have to stop me into the ground if they're going to fucking like keep 'cause I can't live like, you know, it was just one of those, and I was like, I didn't have a father, I was raised by a single mother and an older sister. And like I didn't really have those that skill set. You know what I mean? Like, really taught me how to be a man at that kind of figure it out for myself, which was the story for a lot of lot of guys in my generation like didn't have father figures, single motherhood had to figure out how to be a man on their own and fog in whatever I did I got beat up a few times, but I figured it out and just not not being bullied is something that I've carried with me since then. And if you think like if I were ever going to be bullet now as a fucking of man in my thirties as a father and a husband, you think I'm going to be bullied. Now. Let me tell you. It would not be by these left-wing policies. These guys aren't going to be the ones who folk and bully me out of anything. And I know the same is true for Lewis and Jaso will do the podcast. We'll do it with Milo. My guess is we're going to have fun. We're gonna make dumb gay jokes. We're going to do about that three. I don't know. There's those who don't listen to the show. We do a battle of the bad, bad ass bans. So we're going to do that. And you guys can all fucking deal with that. I guess the only other thing that I should address on this before we move on, and I apologize. I know spent a lot of time on this. But it's, it's something that I cared about, and damn if I can't vent on part of the problem, then what the fuck what where can I vent just yell at your baby? She'll Zorba she doesn't wanna hear I'll be honest. My baby does not allow me to say whatever I want to she's pretty quick. She interrupts very quickly, but I should say there was something about the that Rebecca put out a statement from the creek and I was I was a little bit disappointed in it. I just think that. You know, I love Rebecca and I feel for the situation that she's in and it's you know they can try to play it. However, they want to we didn't put Rebecca fucking bad situation. We do what we do. We were booking fucking show that I saw one person like say, like, you know, the creek gives you a platform, and you do this to them, and it's like okay, first of all, the creek never gave us a platform. They give us a space. Let's get fucking real. The creek never gave us a platform. We give the creek business like, who do you think makes money off that relationship? You think we make money off the creek? No. They make money off us. They give us space in abasement as we could easily do this show at any fucking place that we wanna do at were the ones who have the platform. We built it. We have hundreds of thousands of people who isn't every single episode. We could do this wherever we fucking want to the we like nothing but respect for Rebecca, but let's get real. She didn't give us a platform. She gives us a space. I like the space. I like the creek a lot. I think they do a lot for comedy. And I appreciate everything she's not she's done a lot for me per. Personally like before legion of skanks, like Rebecca's been good to me. And I love her. And I understand she's in a difficult situation. We didn't make it a difficult situation. All these, you know, Astles trying to boycott her dead. And I think Rebecca put herself in a little bit of a difficult situation. 'cause she says these things like, you know, Rebecca will say that the creek is a safe space for, you know, L LGBTQ people, and, and it's, you know something like that. And then she'll also say the creek is, is like a free speech platform where comedians can say whatever they want to, and you gotta understand those two things are diametrically opposed. They are with, like, I mean, not literally speaking, if you're saying, the creek should be a safe space, where no one gets a salted, like, yeah, of course, we all agree with that. But when they say a safe space for LGBTQ people what they mean is, it's not a free speech, but it's not a place where comedians can say whatever they want to. That's what that means to those people. I mean you can't say something that's offensive. And that's not the same as being a free speech venue. So you you've kind of created the situation where you're one or the other. So. Rebecca, you know, had to put this letter out and kind of virtue signal about how horrible Milos that's more or less, what she had to do. Right. So she had to say I was unaware of who Milo was late Thursday. When I found out who he was, and their plans to have him at the creek. I asked the producers to move the recording that is true, but whatever it's leaving out some details, which is that we said. No. And then she said, fine, do it here and then Milo was the one who decided. So that's, but, you know, she's got to say what she's got to say. I don't even know. I don't wanna read the whole thing, but it's more or less just her saying that myla's a bad guy. And she finds views repugnant. And then she does go on to say that me Jane Lewis aren't Nazir's, which I appreciate. But, like, does that really need to be said, does it need to be said that I needed to clarify there was so much noise on Twitter. I was starting to get concerned. I was like, why am I working with these people? Yeah, so I just, you know, I don't know it just kind of bothered me that. Like the tone of the whole thing, which I you know, I understand she's in a difficult position. I really do. But. Look to, to come out and have to say, like Milo so horrible Milo is never done anything horrible, as with all these people who are targeting the creek have done my Milos. I whatever he trolled, Leslie Jones. That's like the worst thing he's ever done as he's a troll who gives a shit. She's the fucking victim here this fucking millionaire celebrity is we're all supposed to feel bad for because she's at meeting said about her on Twitter. Head mean things said about me on Twitter, grow up, who cares? Get a few people who can tweet like shit. Talk me. Almost daily on Twitter. I find it entertaining. It's like like they're not even good at it. I wish they were a little bit like funnier with it or whatever. But it's like I don't know. It's it's a compliment in his weird way. It's like if you if you tweet something shitty at me a hundred times a month, you're much more concerned with me than I am with you. It's like okay, like I don't know what to say. It's like what I said before get a girlfriend, get, get a friend. Get a Netflix password. Get something figure it out. Anyway, I was appointed in what Rebecca said I think she's put herself in a difficult position. The scene has put her in a difficult position. It's just it's really week stuff and. It's, it's embarrassing. I guess the thing I would just close with, and then, then we'll move onto some other stuff. But it really I'll tell you what, hurts me is that when I first started comedy, and this is about twelve years ago, I fell in love with the scene, I thought there was something so cool about it like the art of stand up comedy, which I still love to this day. It's still, you know, might just my favorite thing really is my passion like to just like get on stage with nothing but a microphone and to, like poll, this very specific emotional reaction out of people, which is laughter, which is very like it's different than other reactions. It's like laughter is something that people kind of open themselves up to. Okay. Let's see if this is funny. And then if you hit something you actually pull it out of them, like people don't decide to laugh right now, you say something, and you, you summon it out of them, and it's this positive thing. Every it feels good. Everyone loves to laugh like it's just this positive thing, and it's amazing that like you could just be a stand up comedian. And you don't you're not up there with a band. There's no instrument. There's not a big smoke show. There's not a thing. It's a guy with a microphone, giving you his thoughts and your slapping, your knee and laughing and it's just this beautiful art form. And I thought the scene was so awesome. And at the time, it was kind of, like it was like the end of like the kind of like tough crowd crew day when I first started comedy, you know, it was like it was like, Patrice, and like, Colin Quinn and David towel. And like all these, these guys were just like looked up to so much, and it was like other something so bad as MC, Greg Giraldo, and like these amazing like, like talented, creative people, and it would be, like this is so cool. These are people get up there, and they don't give a fuck, like they'll say the most wildly offensive shit, and you'll be laughing, even though you don't wanna laugh at it because you're like, oh, this is be like God. Damn that's funny. And it was just great. It was this amazing thing. It's an amazing thing, particularly with the offensive jokes, which is what we do at skanks a lot. It's like that you can take the darkest things darkest. Tragedies in life, and make them something positive find the silver lining in them. And this is something that's in my blood, like my, my grandfather was a holocaust survivor, who had a great sense of humor. Like that's all you fucking have when you're faced with such tragedy. And I thought the scene was so cool people were so fucking ballsy, and like, really like and man, just to see what the scene is today. It's just sad. Oh man. That's just sad. It's Michael mouths as the cathedral, and it's like infiltrated the scene to the point that people are just virtue, signaling people who couldn't defend their positions. And by the way, open invite to any of the fucking comedians, who were trashing legion of skanks to come on part of the problem and have the fucking conversation with me, see if you can fuck in defend your position by. The way that's where I'll take back. Any veiled threats that I have before you're willing to come on the podcast and defend your position. Be happy to have the conversation with one of you. Let's but none of you will doesn't think none of you will because it's indefensible you've got nothing and, you know, saying with the comedy, I mean, you know, about the stuff better than me, rob, but it's like the really has been this kind of like this social Justice warrior infiltration of the open, Mike seen everything that's horrible. Yeah. I don't even. For my brand of comedy. It's not fun to do an open mic. So I'm like these people are just going to be annoyed with me. Yeah, like that. That's the state of comedy. At least on the open mic level. I'm like they don't even get that. This is a joke. It's fine. I'll, I'll always like next up in front of a real crowd. Yeah. There's not the kind of comedy, I wanna craft and my you know, my thing with them 'cause, like, yeah, it is crazy. But my thing with them is like, look just at least at the bare minimum, admit what you are. Yeah. It mitt what you are, like this is what bug me about the people being like we just want the creek to be an inclusive venue. It's like no, no, no. You don't. You want it to be an exclusive venue. That's what you want fair enough argue for that. But that's what you want, you want someone to be excluded by definition. That's not being inclusive. Words have meanings. So let's just call a Spade. You want the creek to be an exclusive venue, that does not let right wingers in or anybody who's gonna make fun of social Justice work that, that can't get in right. Okay. Fine. That's your. But let's just be real about what you are. And the other thing they'll be like, let's just be real. This isn't about being offensive. That's not what this is about. It's not that this could be offensive or that this could hurt somebody's feelings. That's not what this is like, I use the example format Michelle wolf. Did this thing on her show where they legalized abortion and Ireland and she announced it, and there was a standing ovation in the room? And she was like go. I are Lind, and everybody cheered. And it's like okay now look, she has every right to do that on our show, wasn't particularly funny. But whatever she has every right to do that on the show. That's fucking her show. Michelle wolf is a very funny comedian she has every right to do that, on her show, but understand that is wildly offensive to fifty percent of the population, but whatever who gives a fuck if it's offensive to them, they don't have to watch. If it bothers them, you have a right to do whatever you want to, but let's get real. You don't give a fuck about being offensive. That's not your criteria. Right. You could go up there and do any pro-abortion joke, you want to it could be the most graphic brutal Joe, you don't give a fuck. If there was some prolife person in the crowd, who was offended by that fucking care. You're not against offending people what you want is not environment where people feel safe. It's not an environment where people aren't offended. It's not an environment. That's inclusive. What you want is ideological conformity. That's it. That's what you want. It's a politically motivated belief system. And by the way, that's fine too. You can have that, but let's just be real. Let's just be honest with each other. That's what it is. You have this worldview. You only want people who believe the same things you believe to express themselves there. That's it, it's just harder to fend that than it is to say these nice words like inclusive, and blah, blah, whatever. So that's my fucking around on the Milo situation, did not think I was going to spend an hour on that. But, you know that's. Yeah. Well, Brian says he did he's right. So hard to argue with that in hindsight. I mean he's clearly right? But I don't even want, you know, we're not this is not what in gangs is going to be even about. So I think this was a better platform to talk about it on. 'cause we're just going to have fun because that's what we do. That's a comedy show. And this is a show about fucking, politics and philosophy. So seemed appropriate to me. So I'm trying to say is happy Memorial Day. Thanks, buddy. 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And then we just happen to follow it up with another one, right? So here's what happens in World, War One. Woodrow Wilson gets us into a war completely based off lies that we never should have been involved with a war between struggling monarchs in Europe that absolutely nothing to do with America. And there was and the conservative wing of the Republican party was hardcore against it, and it was a disaster. And so you had World War, One which was almost certainly going to be to a stalemate and the German subs were, like fucking up the British, and they're there they were doing really good. There's who knows exactly how it would have ended. But there's no question. It wouldn't have ended in a complete and total surrender by the Germans without the fresh Americans this newly industrialized power coming in at the last minute, so we basically let them fight it out for a while in Europe. And when everyone was cold and dying and weak and ready to probably make some type of truce. A fresh America came in and pounced, and it was very driven by financial interests. I mean, there were a whole bunch of people like, you know, the financial ties between like America and Britain, there's a whole bunch of people at their like, look, we need them to folk and win because we've got a lot of outstanding debt in this country and they need to be able to pay it back. And anyway, all worser bankers wars. So we get into this war, America pounces, we dominate we force Germany, to an unconditional surrender an insane on conditional surrender that just could not be justified like they had to take responsibility for the entire war pay off the entire war, dead of every country and also just be publicly humiliated. Take very proud German people who had been an empire, you know, this had been the German empire the Prussian empire the precursors this was a proud people and just humiliate them in front of the entire world. So. Germany signs that we force the this for side treaty on them. And just they're just getting completely plundered. I mean now, by the way, also in the first World War. So the Bolsheviks that the commies in, in, in Russia had tried a revolution a few times, and failed, and then they're troops when, when the military was all had left because the military had held off the revolution. And in the military all left and got extended out into World War One, and then they add revolution it succeeded. So they fucking. So one, the first hiccup is you have the Bolshevik revolution in Soviet Union. Then we got this treaty of Germany. The place has been demolished by war. People are, you know, if you can just imagine like. Fucking in the nineteen twenties. With nineteen twenties, medical innovations, and a whole bunch of people injured from war now they're fucking starving. There broke throughout the Weimer Republic. You had. So, so more or less, the they couldn't meet a lot of the terms of the treaty of like they could. They sometimes they would default on payments owed the French, so the French army would just storm into Germany, Germany, and just take shit. Just take Cole take things from people check a German in fuck inside and take the shit that he had in his pockets, just literally just humiliate the fucking people over and over in order to meet the terms of the treaty of her side, the Ymer Republic governments are printing money printing tons of money and say, you ended up having hyperinflation this literal wheel barrels of cash to go get a Cup of coffee like real deal hyperinflation, and in this environment. The Jews thrived so anyway, Jews doing pretty good. And then there's a lot of other parts to this. But just quick recap of it. And then you had the, you know, you had fighting in the street between the commies, and these other like crazy workers parties, and the Nazis ended up rising up and. Taking over the fucking country in this environment, which so right away, the Bolshevik revolution, and the Nazi revolution almost certainly could not have happened without World War, One like this is the result of in the same sense that you'd say ISIS almost certainly couldn't have happened without the war in Iraq and the war in Syria. The same thing you know, it's like you have a war. There's chaos this terrible groups rise up from that chaos. And then, even after that, there were lots of opportunities for the British a really good book on this subject is Pat Buchanan's, the unnecessary war where he just kind of talks through how the Nazis never even really wanted war with Britain Hitler, actually really admired Britain. They were so white. Well, yeah, exactly they're up there with the whitest and, and they the war pact with Poland was a disaster. The, there's lots of different stuff that you could go look up about whether FDR actually allowed Pearl Harbor to happen or not, like they kind of knew it was coming and they wanted their excuse for war. But the idea that you would ever let it get to this point was just fucking insane. Also dropping the nukes after the fighting in Europe was over was absolutely horrible targeting civilians was terrible, so that, you know, the one of the main arguments that hap- you can and made was that the holocaust, which is used of course, to justify World War, Two in hindsight. Which, you know, of course, was like this horrific crime against humanity, but it's Pat Buchanan's said it was a crime against humanity, but it was also a war crime. And if you don't have the war, you probably don't have the holocaust, you probably have a much better situation like Hitler deporting, all of the Jews or something like that. Rounding them up and kicking them out of the country. I mean, look, my grandfather got out of the country in nineteen thirty eight there were a lot of other maybe thirty nine I'm not sure there are a lot of other Jews who got out around that time not enough. But a lot of them did the problem is that there weren't enough other countries, they wanted to take them from their perspective, at least, but it's not as if he he went genocidal, once the war happened. And so if you're looking at history, you'd be like, well, you'd want to avoid the rise of Hitler, and you'd want to avoid the war, and it's not as if anybody stopped the war, and forget, just even the genocide, which is horrible. But the tens of millions of people who died in that. War. I mean, something approaching one hundred million people died in the war at least between the two world wars. It's just a goddamn nightmares shit show. So the idea, and then, of course, even if you wanna go like Hitler was the worst person ever. And so we have to, you know, we needed to fight that war, and the holocaust, which was never the reason, anybody was fighting the war, and we didn't stop the holocaust from happening. We partnered up with Stalin who killed more people than Hitler and handed him half of Europe. If it was after it was over. So the idea that it's just this noble war is I don't know. It's simplistic and kinda stupid and just what people are taught to believe. So they all believe it, and I'm sure by the after that whole Milo rant. There's your thing for people to be like, David Nazi to right? There you go. But yeah, all wars are horrible. And that one was bad as well. However, updating to a more recent war. Let me in the last few minutes that we have on the podcast. Let me spend some time patting myself on the back because there's one more thing that I got. Right. It seems so. I was one of I gotta say, I really do think I was one of the only people on cable news who was adamantly saying this now, you know, me and you were dead on the money with the whole Russia collusion. Nonsense that was going on. So there's been some things that we've some pretty big stories that we've gotten. Right. But if you guys remember in two thousand eighteen when I was a contributor on unfiltered SE Cup the thing that I would argue with SE Cup the most about was Syria, and I was on a television. I believe two days after the supposed Dumai gas attack or chemical weapons attack, and I argued on on television and to the, you know, to the outrage of SE Cup that I did not believe that, that, that, that Assad had used chemical weapons on his own people and the truth is going back to it. It's like it was just so obvious. It really was so goddamn obvious. I mean why would Assad? A week after Donald Trump announced that we were leaving that we're leaving Syria. Why would he guess you know? A few dozen people, which would serve no military strategic interest for him and would just, just be the impetus to get America to send more troops to not take our troops out. And I mean this is a guy who's been fighting tooth and nail for survival. Why would he possibly do that? It just seemed on its face like you. If you're saying he did this. You must have some really good evidence to suggest it, and they're like, no, we have none. But we know for fact that he did it and so more or less anyway, cutting forward what happened was. Just a few days ago, the OPCW, which is the if I'm getting the acronym. Right. It's the. The organization to prevent chemical weapons believe is what they're called. So they're kind of international organization that, that. Yes. The organization for pro prohibition of chemical weapons excuse me. They, they go round, and they do these fact-finding missions, and they, they're the ones who kind of determine what chemical weapons were used in what wasn't and they put out an official report that, that said that chemical weapons had been used by the Assad government in, in Douma last year. But now there's a fifteen page internal memo, which was, which was released it leaked essentially, and this memo, which was an internal memo did not make it into the report that they put out and basically, showed a bunch of people at this organization demonstrating that this does not seem to be the case at all. And in fact, the likelihood was that the weapons were they are in the city of Duma and not dropped from the air. Now, this is crucial. Okay. So what's going on in Douma? Right. Was. That there were it was a city where there were a bunch of anti Assad rebels as they're called. Okay. So it's the people fighting Assad are holding down this city. Right. So this claim was that Assad dropped by plane, this gas attack on these people who are Assads enemies. Now, if it's dropped by plane, this is done by the Syrian air force, only Assad has an air force. So if it's done by playing this would clearly have to be Assad, and he's dropping it on his enemies, the rebels kind of make sense on its face even despite all the other should I said the bombs were tucked into bed with a lullaby next to a nice glass of milk, and they were like you can't just talk a bomb if you drop it from air. Well, that's right. But that's more. So what they're finding out now is that at least this internal memo seems to suggest is that it seems that these bums were not dropped from the air that they were there on the ground. Now, if they're on the ground that means that they were in this rebel control. Old area. So this seems to be one of two things happened here, either Assad, bombed area where these rebels were hiding out and there were some chemical weapons on the ground. And it ended up in advertently went to the bottle and say, look, yes, or it was a whole false flag to begin with either way. The point is that the United States of America last year. Okay. Forget World War, Two forget, Vietnam, forget the fucking war in Iraq. Forget the war in Libya, the war like all these wars, which are all based off bullshit. Anyway, I just know now it's not even like anyone argues this, this is just a fact last year. We were brought to the brink of another war off. What is now pretty clearly bullshit? And by the way, was obviously, both at the time this is why was arguing on national television who's, obviously bullshit at the time you just look at this, if you have any sense of all these things you can just look at this and be like Yemen this. Another fucking bullshit. Play look into that the bullshit of it a little bit. So here's what fascinates me. Firstly. Go, Google news, Syria, comma chemical attack. You're not going to see any mention of what we're talking about. Also earlier this week in the New York Times, MSNBC were all running an article I forgot who in the government made a release about it, but they made some statement about that. There's new evidence of Syria chemical attack. And so, that's what the that's what mainstream media is running with is, oh, we have to further look into whether or not we have to go to war with Syria, because maybe they stepped over this chemical attack red line. So that's weird. You have mainstream media, Google news, make no mention of this, and then you have this information, which is not even in the report, it was redacted from the report mysteriously leaked online. And then all of your non mainstream media places or pointing to the fact that there's an MIT expert who did a whole whole breakdown on the whole thing to suggest it's not possible at this chemical attack happened from Syria. So here to me is the issue. If you wanna find out what the actual facts are. Your left kind of saying, what's the world view that I wanna buy into don't wanna buy the world v where I think the US government will lie into war. And so it's very likely that this redacted report is actually true or I think that the government and the mainstream media are mostly honest, and so clearly redacted report, only being published by non mainstream media is probably conspiracy. Now you can look at this either way, an either viewpoint is somewhat reasonable you. And I look at follow this more. And so there's more evidenced us suggest. Hey government, allied us. And this is more likely the true thing, but here's what pisses the fuck outta me how there, not some sort of a court to evaluate what is legitimate truth. You're so that we can kind of a full understanding. This is not this is too big to be left to. Oh, the government gets to say it story. Deep internet gets to say it story. It's also like look, I, I hear what you're saying. But it's also like it's not just that the mainstream media, you know. Feels this way. And the government feels this way. It's that let's say, okay. So let's say the two hypotheticals you laid out there, right? Or not hypotheticals of the two worldviews that you laid out there. There's like one world view is our, our. But let me just finish this point, one world view is argue that governments lie into war. The mainstream media is complicit in their lies and don't trust anything. They say it's all bullshit, and here's more evidence than its bullshit. And then the other view is like the government is doing the best can they're being honest. The mainstream media is genuinely honest or you know, the journalists and reporters, and they're trying to get the information out. And you know, this is just some redacted report. One guy saying that it's not in the official release of, of the fucking, you know, the OPCW or whatever. Okay. If that worldview was not our world view. The other one if that were true. Would you think that after getting so many of these things wrong after the let's it's not lies? It's just a mistaken honest mistake, like we really thought Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. You know, we really thought that was we really thought Ghaddafi was about to go genocidal. We really like all of these things were just honest mistakes. Wouldn't you at least by the fuck nineteenth time we're being pulled into war? And some people are saying, hey, we think this might be a mistake at all. Go, okay, let's hear those guys out. Let's make sure this isn't a mistake. But instead of that, it's that if you were around and believe me, as someone who is doing it. I felt this. But listen, people like Tucker Carlson, and Tulsi Gabbard, obviously way bigger higher profile than may who are out there saying these chemical tax didn't happen. Look at the treatment, they get it's not just like a we think you're wrong. It's like your evil. That you, you're in a sod touting or whatever. Tolsey Gabbard was called. So why would they be acting this way? Why does everything point to our worldview, being correct, and this worldview being wrong? And this is not, you know, this is like a non a small man. This is a matter of life and death. And why is it that we've got Wesley Clark a four star general saying, we're going to overthrow the government in Syria in two thousand three and all these years later. We're still getting propaganda pushing us into this fucking war. And also, again, just look at what I said, on the face of it, it makes no sense. You're saying Assad who fought tooth and nail for his own survival would just for fun just to gas. Some people for no other strategic advantage. He would just go let me guess some people and risk everything. There's no strategic advantage for him. And there's everything for the rebels. So I I it the framework here that this can become a he says, or she says, when obviously, there are actual factor in the facts are gigantic. I mean, if government worked at all, there should be a congressional investigate like these are these this is facts. This is yes or no. It shouldn't be. Hey, we're the conspiracy people over here saying, we think this is what happened in the government's official report is over here in the majority Americans, go. Well, it makes more sense that I would just go with the government official report versus the isn't. And it's like this is buried information that if it's true should be addressed. This is not sweep under the rug like stuff. Yeah, we're talking about a green new deal and Trump's tax returns and all these other things. And it's like we can't we can't get to the bottom of this. Like everyone washing if Washington was there to serve the people at any sense of priorities priorities wouldn't everybody be like, what we gotta get to the bottom of this. This is really important like. We almost went how did this come out, by the way, is this just this last week Justice because I've seen zero mention of it Wall Street Journal new Carlson segment on his show about it. That's cool. Tucker Carlson did a segment. He had totally gabbert on. It is the only mainstream coverage I've seen of this, that there was a really cares. Article in the intersect it took me. Yeah. The intercept article was really good. But it took some digging before I could find this stuff. It wasn't like you could just throw it into into Google and the first New York time, search result whoever made the statement from the government that there's new suspicions of it wasn't even bowl terms and his new suspicions or some like loose term for why we need a reinvestigate or armed. It's, it's unbelievable. How sick the whole thing is. I mean you like if you if you think about the fact that you have this system where the Democrats and Republicans they're at each other's throats, and, and, you know the they couldn't be further apart. And like Nancy Pelosi. Donald trump. They hate each other. And what's what you see playing on a loop on cable news is like Donald Trump tweeted out a video, that's edited of Nancy Pelosi looking like a retard. I mean, isn't this a crazy story? Let's talk about this all day long, but all the sudden when when this chemical attack happened last year, all the powers that be get together and go, we are United in one front, and that's that we need to bomb Syria. I mean, just think about it logically for for a second. How would it possibly be in in two thousand eighteen this is last year? One year ago that America us the greatest superpower, that's ever existed. They go we need to drop massive explosives on the people in Syria in this little country, that has no power influence economy, military anything to speak of, you know, it's so. An everyone agrees that the whole elite class all agree. We need to go to war with Syria, and there can be no discussion about this. And even the people like Brian Williams, who will just bash Donald Trump every single day about, how dangerous and horribly as just talks about how beautiful the bombs are right. Even these, these guys on CNN. It's just like, oh, this is the most presidential thing Donald Trump's ever done that was when he bombed the year before two thousand seventeen but right. Like. It's really hard to not entertain some conspiratorial ideas. If, if you just had to guess, out of your ass, or talking terms of percentages. Do you think it's that the rebels actually somehow got a hold of chemical weapons restoring at these sites sites? Got bombed in the CIA goes. Hey, we can spend a good story here or do you actually think that you have some CIA or some people in the rebels who are linked to the CIA? They see their opportunity to may be stir up American actually get into war, and they actually and the materials often say, hey, we needed to go put these into a couple of the bomb sites. I have no idea. I mean, that's, that's just my guess would probably be that look, I think that. I think the government isn't one thing. Right. Right. So I think that the CIA and other organizations have assets all in these groups in all, I mean, this, look the Saudis and the CIA are the ones go, Google, if you if you don't know about the shit already. Go Google operation, timber, sycamore, and see that it was a plan. I believe it started in twenty twelve that the CIA and the Saudis decided we were going to overthrow Assad. And this is when we started the civil war in Syria to lead to, to ousting, sharla, Saad, because this was this was part of the redirect where basically, you know, we've talked about this on the show before. I know. But basically, when we went and overthrew, Saddam and we installed the Shiites they started realizing pretty quick. Holy shit. We just turned over this whole region to around and now fucking we got Shiites in Iran, Iraq, and Syria, and ran has. Tremendous influence over all of them, and Israel, and Saudi Arabia, really don't like ran, so they made the redirect where they were like we gotta start working on the side of the SUNY is now. And we gotta go so they fucking they had this operation to lead the fucking SUNY. Militant members to overthrow Assad. And of course, the fucking, it ended up being like who are the fucking radical Sunni militants? Well, they're al-qaeda, and they're ISIS these fucking really bad, people who actually pose a threat to us. But so we started funding them, and they were CIA Saudi assets imbedded in all of these groups. So. Who led the decision to do it, who the fuck knows? But probably the rebels decided we can pin this on a sod and the American interests were just thrilled to jump on board with that, you know, like Scott Horton was talking about on the last podcast. Here we had this asset this rainy guy who is telling us that he knew for sure that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction now where the Neo cons getting played by this guy because he was Iranian, and he wanted Saddam to be overthrown. Maybe but my guest tends to be that they knew it was bullshit. They just wanted the excuse. So that's more or less, where I, I guess, but it's just pure speculation. But the point is that look man, even if did guess zone, people it's ridiculous that we'd have to go overthrown you would think even if we knew that Assad gasp. Let's say how insane is it? There's a war where five hundred thousand people have died. By by most estimates a half a million people have died. Right. And millions of people have been displaced millions of lives have been ruined but sixty more died due to chemical weapons. So obviously, we got to go to war. How does that even make sense? How do you have a fifteen page redacted thing that totally changes the entire world? You have this stuff from, I guess, the most important organization then gets like what happens there just seem like weird. Yeah. You have you have dishonest people in the inside and who are at the top of the organization, and what you had was somebody who's honest in there, who's trying to get this in there. So you have somebody who's honest, who's, like, well, look, we have all this information there, and they're like, oh, good work Johnson. We're this probably isn't getting and you don't end up getting promoted in someone else does because they told them what they wanted to hear. And then somebody in the organization it was like, well, I'm gonna fucking link this shit and they week it. This fucking power corrupts man. Like you see, like look dude? Even just a tie it back to all the shit. You see with the falcon the Milo shit being unleashed gangs, most people will just run around and follow orders. That's what most people are doing. They're just like I've been told this is what makes me on the right team. I will repeat exactly what you say, you know, this fucking comedian who J confronted the other day and fucking left, feeling like a woman. He's started saying these things to him. And he was like a well, I think Milo's Nazi, and Nazis need to be deployed formed. And you're like are you are you pretending this original thought that you're having right now? You are just repeating the dogma. But that's what people do. Right. I mean, just look at the nature of religion and how many people it's like one guy gets up and goes, this is what we believe. And everybody else goes, this is what we believe. That's how people are they just repeat the shit? You tell them to repeat. So when you have these org. And by the way, this is what I saw in, in the mainstream media in the time that I've been there. It's not that everybody in the mainstream media is a member of the CIA. There's some there's definitely some like, there are some who straight up our but you don't even need everybody to be because most people just come in, and they go, so this is the deal. Okay. I'll repeat the deal. This is what I need to say to move up the ranks. Okay. Well, we're animals, and we've evolved to survive and to make our lives easier. We didn't evolve desire truth. More people giving out jobs, spores great. I think the gold standard was foolish, and that's really good. Take take take out more money and give it to the poor people. Yet now, go say that on a platform that matters, and you're gonna get one of those jobs this podcast you just lost your. Burns not being the platform everybody. This is an hour h d platform burns, everybody hashtag de platform the fire, we're we're going to get this thing done. That's hate speech, and you're a Nazi. And that's how we're going to end things today. Sure thing let's let everybody know, make sure you check out Shannon's podcast, which is coming up next. If you're watching live, go listen to Shannon's podcast, which, of course, is called BA thing is today, the clock with Shannon and it starts at eight o'clock. And I, I, I know that, that's the hangman on my. That's what the thing is. That's the thing is with Shannon who's who's does a lot to help the network. So go go check out her show. It's very funny very entertaining. And of course, tonight at nine thirty is the dangerous episode of lesion location secret locates in tune in to find out where it's actually I'm pretty excited to podcast from there. It's going to be cool and okay. That's it for today. Go listen to run your mouth podcast with rob Bernstein. Follow at Robbi the fire on Twitter. We will be back on when this day piece.

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Dave and looking forward, by the way to negotiating with you about the potential for you to be not just a wimp act at the sole form, but debater as well. No, deep talks with certain people who might oppose you and debate and could be one of our biggest debates ever. So I'm looking forward to that. Ooh. Yes. Well, I'm very much into that little tease. Tune out made people out there start asking questions who could it be? Who I am who I'm going to be debating, yes, Paul Krugman, one on one man, Paul Krugman to afraid to step into the ring with your day. It's it's not likely to happen in his case. But because he's as I mentioned he's wrong about the economy ninety six percent of the time. And you're right about the economy ninety six percent of the time as a pretty good grade. We yeah, means that the other four percent is what I'm here to help you. That's what you're here for let's focus on the ninety six little bit before before before we get into it. I just wanna say for anybody who doesn't know, gene. Of course is the founder and the what's your title at. I'm the toll dragon. The director. I'm sorry to the monarchy. I wasn't sure exactly what you want. But you are all of those things, but the director of the so I make all the decisions about a no committee known. But nobody I just make all the decisions about who the debate is going to be so so you are the executive of the SoHo form, which if you're not familiar with. I mean, we talk about it a lot on the show, but I'm at pretty much every one of them. It's a great debate series here in New York City, and you can go to the SoHo forum dot org to get all the information about and that's where I will potentially be debating day. Be debating Dave is warm up act, and I had to put that in quotes because the hope is going to come to our next bait to be the warm up act in our debate about global warming. That's April fifteenth. I hope you can spare the time Dave and show up and be there. We'll let you out for the evening. That's that's always what I hope go. She ation. That's right. That's a whole debate of its own before I even get there. Hopefully, I can win that that one. So you also aside from you moderate all of the debates, but you also have stepped into the ring yourself a couple of times three times. And we talked last time you're on the show. We talked a lot about your your previous victory on so. I've been the negative all three times. And I've won all three times. I'm going to be doing two more debates one in June with the professor of economics who thinks that social security is not a problem that doesn't add to the debt. And then in November. I'm going to be debating yet, another socialist. Somebody more my age of professor, Richard Wolfe. Emeritus professor from UMass again on the subject of socialism. It keeps coming up Dave socialism. So I think I have heard about this a little bit. Yes. Yeah. Socialism does keep coming. So I think that it's good for me to swat it down at least once a year. Yeah. It's when doing so and hopefully a lot associates Cup. We're gonna have that one as well at a larger than usual hall, not at the subculture theater, but we're talking to you about leasing larger hall for that. Because we want the socialist to show up, and as you very nicely pointed out in your in the in the elite Facebook page, the inner circle you're thinking. Woods is the the part of the problem inner circle, you're not you just know we're not to have you been in that group. It's not that at least all right? Right. Right. Right. And you put it on my defensive cities to just gene just show wherever they call them. Great great one because you call me, the great, gene. And you put it out in my defense. He shows up before people who hate him who don't great at all. That's right before a lot of socialists at John Jay college. Which is what I did. And you were in the audience, and that was a very eventful evening as you. Sure was that sure was very much looking forward to the next one. You are someone who is uniquely prepared to debate socialism because not only are you a free market economist. But you have a background of being very left leaning yourself having parents who were or one parent communist, Connie. Mommy was a comment that's jas by the FBI. No. In fact, I got it. There was some skittish skit song. If mommy is a comic, the new gotta Turner in. I could even sing it. So that's where I little rhyme very obvious enough. One Miami's economy they do. So that's why I got and so indeed, I I've been there, and I've done that much to my, you know, like I was sought after by many because they wanted me to tell my my little story about how at the age of seven. I'm a Stalinist nothing to be proud of. No. But I can't hold too much blame. But at least is inspiring. Look if I could climb out of that intellectual depravity than others can to that. So that's all. So you also understand I think it gave you in the debate with Bhaskar and gave you an edge because you're able to come you're able to kind of see the you have an insight into the mindset of the socialists. So you understand what their problem is? And you're able to kind of deal with that like meet them on their own turf. Yeah. Keep of course, embarrassingly saying got a little. Impatient with my younger fans. So that was fine. I think I was in a way arguing my former south Basco is charming twenty nine year old kid who loves basketball who didn't mind that those professional basketball making tens of millions of dollars, rather, I should've pounced on that little quirk in his nature, but I was impatient with him because he's a twenty nine year old kid and away. I was just berating myself. See that was actually those were. And I know I think I disagreed with Jim your son, Jim works, at reason magazine who was like, you know, you you. Why were you losing your cool? I loved it loved you losing your cool spree the families of the state's rights. Well, I'm just well. I'm just saying that, you know, your son was ashamed of you. And that I I was actually like no, I'm proud. I'm proud of your father son shame to be. But Davis proud of. That's right. And so and actually in the inner circle just today, some of them some of the people in the inner circle said look did find a worry about. But I I am resolved. Solved to keep my cool with Richard Wolfe will so so look forward to that. I'm gonna count three if I if I get impatient with Richard Wolfram amid a pause for a moment, and I'm gonna keep calm and keep cool. All right. Well, if you are in the New York City area, do your best to try to come out to that. And if not they all get put up on reasons YouTube page within podcast, and and and in specifically Dave is going to be the warm up Vogel warming. He's going to warm up for global warming on April fifteenth at the subculture theater in downtown Manhattan. It's a great time to have that debate. Because of course with the green new deal of propositions and all this. I must say, and I never ever have anything. Nice to say about Mitch McConnell. Yeah. But it was pretty hilarious. What he did with green knew he actually made them take into vote. And no one voted for it. Like, even that even that, dummy, corpus turtle. Mitch McConnell was able they were like renew doing Volker vote on a great plan guys. And. And then every democrat. This is outrageous that they want us to vote on our own proposal. And none of even AFC was advising people not to vote for it. She was like vote present now. Yeah. Another commentary was pretty funny in a way, you should broke into song and sung that John Lennon song. Just imagine. Really agree. New deals not a policy. It's just it's just imagined. Yes. Just imagine we can live on windmills and sun and just do nothing. And no religion to enjoy. That was really what it was. They didn't want to vote on for that reason. It wasn't really hilarious. Now what I want to what I was curious about is wear. Pita would come down on a being supported by windmills only because windmills are basically like bird, Nazis windmills, she'll they slaughter these birds they get shop down. And like this is actually a serious problem. Kill a lot of birds. Right. Where's pita? Yeah. Pita coming out against the green new deal. No, I I recently. I recently learned that. That windmills specially killed the big birds. You know, the the little birds do have little problems, but the really big birds get caught in them. And so that's been bed their special killers of a special kind of bird as right? So indeed, I guess the bird lovers would indeed get a little bit of set about that. Absolutely. Look, I I in fact, I have to confess that many years ago. I did a study of wind energy, it's very seductive wind and sun. But you quickly learn hopefully as Alex Epstein as he likes to pronounce it, no relation. But brilliant guy points added should be called intimate unreliable energy. And and we're all going to die. If that's what we have to rely on because they will be days. There's nighttime when the sun doesn't shine, and they will be windless days and the battery technologies just not there that'll be that'll be rough when I'm trying to finish an HBO documentary. You're just like, oh, it's not windy out today or somebody goes off life support. Dave. I know it's only it's all about you day. No, let's talk about important things. Netflix as like a new series that I'm really into like, you know, it's funny. I realized you know, you, and I could riff, and we could touch up here haven't hold agenda. Toque you have an agenda. I don't I don't wanna keep you from your agenda where where would you want to start just with my key insight, which I waited about is that is that when you first when you first up appearance at our very first SoHo forum, which by the way was held. And so they may not remember that. But it was held at the gallery where my wife exhibits, and so that's why we called I remember well just little defensiveness 'cause we're now in no. But what are you going to do? But but Dave day began to tell a joke. It's interesting a joke that he's told about ninety times that I laugh at every time, even though I know what's coming which is that nobody can win a debate with Donald Trump. Yes. And in that case, I remember Steve Forbes sitting in the front row in before this is in September of twenty sixteen. Gene before Trump when the election to everyone's astonishment, including Dave's. Yeah. Of course, Tobias Osmond. So she's calculated to Hillary will say something in triple say your husband's rapist. So we all go forward we before ever since now cut to what Dave was doing in the months of September and October of that particular year as a brilliant commentator. He's analyzing Trump's debates with Hillary Clinton. He's using the boxing analogy refreshingly Trump land diplo here blow here, but but he was flattened and he just what were you saying every time Trump kept losing those debates. Dave commentator was what was giving us. The insight that Trump was losing the debates you put on your Jewish of hat, you analyze it from Munich respective the guys losing those debates the comedic Dave on the other hand kept saying nobody can. Win debate against Dave. So I just think that it's a great irony that the comedic truth, but Dave kept saying turned out to be the real truth the rational Jewish commentator. I keep repeating that. Because we're gonna talk about juice today. That's right. Just got a completely wrong. Yes. I sure did. I was I was convinced Hillary was going to win. But analyzing those debates you had them more party. Let it a blow here upload their. She brought up this. She brought her that you giving us very intelligent blow by blow, but the comedic rate the comedic Dave hasn't had it all summer is. You can't be you can't win a debate again. Yes. So the moral is immoral trust the comedic date, so trust the comedic Dave's distort. Yes. Yeah. Whatever I say on stage. That's what we view saying this show for the evening that just bullshit. Let it let it brush right on less. You put on your comedic cat on the other hand. Of course, the the the the commentator Dave as value. And I I agree. Also for the ultimate the ultimate trust the comedic day. But now for the for the commentator, Dave to segue further this a four percent error rate in what you've said recently economic actually one of them was was I think something you've been seriously in your great show called libertas libertas. Yes. You began from a certain premise in which you said, we don't make things Americans. Don't make things. Yes. Okay. I talked about so that now you have to take me to task for that. We do produce quite a bit of things here in America making things. Okay. Like, obviously, I want to understand. We'll tell minds David. I do not make anything we make trouble. That's right. No as we make whatever. But that's not really a thing that we make. Okay. So that's clearly there's a lot of people do not make things Dave included me included. However, if you actually just look at the numbers, the official numbers add up the number of people who actually do work in manufacturing in this country. And that's all even give twelve point eight million in manufacturing. Okay. Way down, of course, as a percentage base way down numerically and way down as percentage basis, then the number of people working construction that's making something house that seven point four million the number of people who are in farming still. Still on the farm nearly two million the and then the number of people who do cooking and baking that's making stuff. No, okay. You're right. Well, it's make things baking a pie. So a lot of prepared foods these people they bake bread. That's all that stuff is done in the US, and that's eight million people. Okay. Work in kitchens. And so and then and then there is mining locking. There's fracking as you know, with US in the coming year is likely to be for the entire year export oil for the very first time in decades in particular. And then of course, we do Mondays some gold mines locking all that goes on. So that's that's nearly a million people. And then if you throw in repair and maintenance a little bit, I guess this has become unto boring Domic's lesson. No, I'm interested. Okay. It has it is up to thirty two point three million people who are making things all of those categories that I just mentioned out of total in the private sector one hundred twenty eight million so one out of four workers in the US still make some. All right. Well, that is a that is a fair point. I think what I the general point of of the bit that I was doing was the idea that we that we transitioned from say my grandfather's America to my America from being a into being a consumer economy, and I don't well, it's not necessarily black and white now I would say with those numbers that you throughout how much of them or what percentage of it? Do you think is like in terms of production and manufacturing how much of it is a spurred on by the military industrial complex how much of that is a Boeing production and making weapons that we just go drop. So it while we while it is still making things it's not exactly in the same sense of like, we're not making the things that we consume did. And then the housing market stuff. That's all just kind of you know, like spurred on by this artificially, low interest rates building houses that no one needs. Anyway, you see it's all a status paradigm. Okay. Your point still stay. Okay. Okay. No, no. No, no. All right. Make absolutely look. And you know, I'm just making limited point. But everything you just said is basically, although the of how we are consumer economy now, and we weren't at one point. I'm not clear what you're getting when you say that. I mean, people were consuming things of those days. I don't I don't know what the share was between consumption investment, and maybe it was different than, but but the economy the pro purpose of the Robinson Crusoe economy when we go down to basics and just imagine crucial that basically a consumer economy. Also, the the the reason why they producing something because they well that is a good fishing crews, and they're picking berries 'cause they wanna consume the fish the Barrett, and they make built a house that if they built a bigger boat, it's to fish more or they make too they might pull the boat to have recreation. So that's a consumer economy to day this alright taking I will make the proper correction my comedy special. We do make things one out of four people make take notes on this project. I should've I should've. Indeed. I honestly don't think that that whole lot of of the of the what is it the twelve point eight million in manufacturing, you're perfectly right? Of course that that fair amount of is defense industries. I really think of course, obviously, as you know, a lot of foreign-owned firms in the southern belt that better making cars, and although actually it's finishing that we do a lot of high end finishing actually boy on why manufacturing still is viable and in a country like this. It's that the truth really is that that bed. If you're Toyota, if your foreign manufacturer, you do want your one of your final finishing manufacturing facility to be close to the domestic market, really. It's not because of politics by law. Really that you have the insight that you're that you manufacturing facility should be attuned. To the domestic worker and should be sensitive to it. That's why strategically will inevitably be the case why of course, so many people in manufacturing are working for foreign companies, and in this other belt in particular, right Toyota. And they asked strategy Volkswagen and their strategy is indeed to have a position in the domestic market. And it's not really as I say because of politics is because of marketing strategy, interestingly enough, but as I say, we are, of course, Uson farming as you know, and of course, it's only two million workers, but it's a few people. And then of course, obviously, the flowering of those restaurants consumer economy, just pick up all those immigrant restaurants, all the prepared foods a lot of that oil to be made. And so that's respectable making. I agree. And in fact, I've been over that before. All right. Let's take a second. And thank our sponsor for today's show. One of our new sponsors which were thrilled to have on board. Republic dot co. That's Republic dot CO of very very interesting company. I actually think this is revolutionary what they're doing for the first time in modern history. Retail investors can invest in a private startup companies success while with risks. If you invest in the early stages of a company you could achieve. Significant return on your investment thing. 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They had that ninety five percent. We're not into twenty eighteen. It's now. Now thirty five percent now now now, of course, that's because of government because government has created all these government run schools in the all days, the the idiot. Rich people went to Yale and Harvard and really the education that got was just as crappy stupid for the most of them as it is today. That's another thing bridle that really it was just about as brainless in those days when you hear by the way, the memoirs Dwight MacDonald who went to Yale a famous writer of from the nineteen fifties and sixties, and it was just garbage curriculum that they were taught. But of course, he was a rich kid so he went to. But what's my point? My point is that that because of that critical mass of thirty five percent, you've got to go to college or to get a decent job. Now, you manage to beat the system day did. Yeah. But but not everybody is a comic genius, Dave Smith. And so when you said that you were vice and kids, look, you got you got to go through the. The hurdles if you want to become a lawyer or physician that was true. But you might have missed the point that, unfortunately, we have to roll back the government sector or do something because because employers now value the signally, as you know, there's no value to the education, except signally you show you a team player you so you can work by the rules. So if somebody wants a conventional employer is thinking of employees, Dave Smith who was a college dropout versus Joe Smith who went through the motions and graduated. He knows that Joe Smith is a much more reliable team player than Dave Smith will ever be just on the basis of that signally, my I'm not sure that you recognize that putting new disquisition. No, I don't think I ever talked about that. I know that something that I've read Brian Kaplan's written about quite a bit. And he makes very good point that, and it is I don't know, you know, obviously, the rolling back of the government intervention is the solution to this. It is disappointing the end of it. It is kind of a market failure in a sense that it it is true. That so many employers seem to value college degree, even if that degree gives you absolutely know, nothing that would inherently what you learned in college is going to benefit your job forms here. It's just the fact that you completed something you did the task you can follow instructions and get something done. Okay. See I brought it a little bit. Even what you just said was I had Brian. I know Bryant, he's brilliant guy. I I had I met with him before he I had him tomatoes so tomato guy from Harvard. Yeah. It was bait and he was good Brian's billion, Brian Brian. I will not recognize the fact that it is a libertarian issue because I cannot blame the average employer. I mean, they're not business people then want to make a living. They wanna get by. Right. If they if they have applicants who dropped out of college who wouldn't finish. And you got a bunch of applicants again, it's one it's thirty five percent. You've got people to choose from who played by the rules. Who's the better bet? I can't blame the. Yeah. I can't say it's a free market failure. If only the government had simply left, well enough alone and allowed it to be that four percent in nineteen forty graduated from college, then employers would have to figure out another way to sort people. But but here they're given. They pay for it in taxes, but don't they only play small piece of it? So it's a cost less way of sorting people. I cannot blame the average employer another that's fair. So that this government that's at the root of the prop one hundred percent. I agree with you on that completely. It is just when you think about those numbers, though, we think about the idea of thirty five percent of people going to college after high school, and you just look at the world around at the jobs that people do it just seems. So there's no reason for this. Like, it's why is it necessary for if you just walk down the street, and there's like I don't know what there's a restaurant here and somebody runs the restaurant and somebody waits tables and somebody's the bar back. And somebody's the bartender. It's like why why do you need to go after age eighteen to be alone with books and professors for four year. I would I have mine to go back to the Jewish same. I would have the Misra plan for all young people. Young women on the plan that by the time, you're thirteen you learned your literate, you can read let's just make sure of that. And then you'll bark on your career to you want to become to intern at a hospital and see if you want to be physician, do you want to intern with a law firm and see if you want to be a lawyer, I think that that that working life should begin thirteen. And of course, you know, you may wanna just bomb around for few do whatever you want. But the point is high school and college are basically content Lewis indoctrination, people do not want to spend their time listening to lectures and reading books most people in their whole lifetime. Do not want to spend on and for the small percentage. Do maybe there should be a place for them to go do that. And that's that's fine. But and then of course, which which ties in with what you're saying is, then if you look at things through that perspective, you also realize how how harmful minimum wage laws are and all the regulations ranch children working and things like that. Where you know, if you talk about kids. Working what what is brought up in the images that are conjured people's minds are usually things are usually things like child labor and the industrial revolution or something like that. But if you're talking about, you know, a fourteen year old having job today making a couple of bucks an hour, adding to their experience their resume things like that. And they weren't forced into high school. They weren't forced out of the workforce by by laws. Maybe this would be an alternative way for an employer to judge twenty year old who's been working since they were fourteen probably the market wage for fourteen year old is probably negative. In other words, you might you. You you probably just have to a work to the employees the apprenticeship system. Right. As you had to put some money because you getting huge training my happiest summer my happiest months, in fact, 'cause I hated I hated school when I started grade school. I literally thought that that school was a place where grownups yelled at you. I didn't even know it was a place. We. Supposed to learn something. But my happiest months working at the RAI music summer theater in Ryan New York near my home in White Plains and swabbing latrines and sweeping the stage and being an apprentice in the theater and having a brief appearance on the state in one of the show. So I did crap work in this awful situation. What would think and yet I had a lot of fun doing it? A lot of fun hanging around and doing the crap work of the theater along with a bunch of other kids and enjoying myself doing far more fun than sitting in a classroom. Having to learn how the US has always been on the side of good every war. And when it goes into wars reluctantly and always means the on top of that, it's induction nation. It's it's such a joke from start to finish. But but this whole absurd system becomes rational. Once you have the critical mass of thirty five percent of employees, and you of course, you might say be a principled employer and give a chance the Dave Smith. Maybe there's a way to rebel against it. But unfortunately, if we now go in the other direction as Bryan Caplan, actually, eloquently put if now it's going to be tuition free for all it's going to further the rat race, then everybody's going to get a PHD and people start when they're forty years old. And this is an issue that I believe I might I'm not remembering this career. But I believe me sus made this point that one well the following that one government regulation, always justifies the next. And this is what happens is that. You have the system we're now when that right? You have a trillion debt, you have these people who have and I really do feel for a lot of people who have one hundred thousand dollars in college debt have no foreseeable way to have an extra hundred K to pay this off. They're not making great salaries. And then all the sudden they've got I there's just the the kind of own quantifiable or the on the toll of just living under debt your whole life. Like that has somewhat of a toll in terms of stress. S like that. And then the creditors coming after you, go going after people's wages and some insect. And it's it's really a horrible thing. And I understand where you know after you're in that situation. Someone like Bernie Sanders coming along and going, hey, I can snap my fingers and make this go away. I can forgive dead. I can make universities tuition free. You get where it's the problem is that much like with the whole Obamacare's where now everyone's going. Let's just go Medicare for all because people are like Yam, this this system sucks, like one government regulation messes everything up and then in many people's minds not act not correctly. But it justifies to them the next government intervention, which is usually a government takeover of the industry, and yet the whole mess. Yeah. No, india. And of course, one would hope I mean, they're still there are always possibilities and one would hope that that that backlashes setting in. But indeed it has become there is a situation. Now, it's gotten so expensive with for so many kids it not a good investment anymore. Right. And so and so. Hopefully, then there will be a reaction rebellion. But of course, unless of course, Bernie Sanders comes to the rescue which segues into my point about you know, that when it comes to economics. It's just which Julie gonna listen to Bernie Sanders. Call marks my, mommy. Paul krugman. It's just just a bunch of juice getting together. Having a big argument. Well, that's that's a good segue into what you wanted to talk about. And this was you had said that you wanted to talk about maybe some politically incorrect of us on the history of Jews or or gyms in general. I've felt like I have a somewhat of a unique perspective on what some call the q Jewish question which has become which is by the way, become a very popular term online some communities over the last couple years. But I do I think I am. I'm a Jew, obviously. Although not a religious person. But I. Antisemites concern, you ju-. That's right. I'm there for all the bad stuff. No matter. What no matter what you think. But and I have in my family history. I mean, my family was from originally Austria and Germany, and they moved from Austria, Germany, I believe in the nineteen teens believe they went there. So my grandfather grew up in Austria, but moved to Berlin. And my grandfather grew up in Berlin the Nazis came to power. He was able to get out in thirty nine thirty eight or thirty nine and right before it got really, really bad. You know that? Yeah. And so this is and the rest of them all dies. All that's when he called himself. Schmidt is that no this was on my mother never called himself Smith. My father's side, which was also Jewish. I think they just wanted to blend in. I don't know what the story is there. Everyone of my father's side of my family with the bunch of liars. You can never get any real history from them of the family. You don't know. I really don't know. Nobody knows. But somehow we went with Smith trying to be subversive passes. Right. But bring bring them down from the inside trying to pass Krizan still still in my instinct today trying to pass Christian pretend date. So there is this tradition in my family of people being very aware of what happened in the holocaust with the Nazis into the Jews being very. As is the case with many Jews being hyper sensitive to what is perceived or real anti-semitism on the other hand as a libertarian, and as somebody it seems like most of the areas that focused on hating for the last decade or so of my life. It's the things that I'm most critical of would be the American led wars. The mainstream media monetary policy, the whole kind of banking government fed complex. And if you look at say, the Neo cons or Israel or the media or the banks it is hard to not notice at a certain point. There's a whole lot of Jews run around in these institutions and Tate, leaving Israel, and obviously Israel is Jewish. But it is strange that they're in a country where Jews make up less than two percent of the population in the United States of America. It's not as if Jews are over represented in the media and in banking by you know, it's not like other two percent of the population. But they're like four percent of the people who own the major media companies. It's not like they're two percent of the population in their ten percent of the bankers. It seems like they're they're damn near eighty percent of Neo cons. The Federal Reserve Board. The people who own the media companies and just Wall Street players in general. It is shocking. And it is I I don't know. It's just something that's hard to not notice. Well, yeah. No. Because one of the one not as impressive numbers that eighty percent, you just grabbed out of you. I am pulling that out of my. No, you're right. You're right. Look, I was the one who said it's which you talked to. Yes. Elizabeth Warren is is a native. So there's not Jewish people. So I was myself day, but you basically, right and the number that comes to mind where they actually calculated is the Nobel prize in economics, of course, is on a world basis. It's given to a lot of foreigners with our whole out of Jews in Sweden. And and yet thirty six percent of all Nobel prizes in economics have gone to Jews, and that's obviously way out of proportion to their one point six percent of the population clearly global concern that sell absolutely. And and actually when you mentioned Germany that said ways into my key insight. Libertarians should make this key point. I there's a very good book. I really recommend very moving called why an expo planning the holocaust just published last year. And it's a series of why the Jews why the Germans each chapters called y and I like that because in a way to ask why question about history, ultimately you get down to metaphysics ultimately unanswerable. But if you drill down, you do get some answers to the why so why the Jews and he makes he comes up with numbers. He's actually an economist the author of this book the Jews accounted for point nine five percent less than what percent of the population of Germany in the early twentieth century, but they made up thirty one percent of the wealthiest families. Same kinda number in Germany with all got obliterated where they'll have to scape. Again, somehow are the way out of proportion to the numbers that are involved with money and that. Segues into my key point, which is this the the left wing of notion that if you are wealthy than your wealth is extracted from others that your wealth is the is the is the inverse of another person's poverty that it's all euro some game that basic philosophy. The Bernie Sanders philosophy does not mean that Bernie Sanders is a self aiding Jew or hates Jews. But it does mean that that's the philosophy that the anti anti-semites never leave home without that's the philosophy under national socialism. As MRs pointed out, it was a socialist society, the Nazis, the national socialist government control of industry that basic resentment which is that if somebody comes wealthy becomes wealthy. He's taking from somebody else. That's what animates the resentment of the us. That's what animated antisemitism and ju-. Meeting in Nazi Germany, obviously. Okay. When you ask that. And so only we must we must recognize that the philosophy of Bernie Sanders. Is an enemy of the Jews. And of course, obviously as Thomas soul, the other great writer on this whole subject, the kind of Thomas soul as pointed out, you know, the Chinese have been called Jews of the orient. The Chinese all businesses in Malaysia. That the Japanese were hated in and California for being property. Yes. I have you ever read any of them. Amy chua. Plinking her. I read two of her book, and I'm blanking on the name. I think world on fire, and she she she writes about market dominant minorities all over the world. And actually, it's it's for more common than you would think in many different countries. I mean, the Chinese Vietnam was one of them, and there's like all these different areas where there is a group that is maybe makes up four or five percent of the population. Ends up ends up for whatever reason. Hard to always bottom. Right. They might just be better culture genetic advantage. Who knows I wanted to go back and drill down a little bit on the point you made about the left wing notion that the fixed pie Fallas the idea that if you're making money you're taking away from somebody else will certainly I think we would both agree that in the context of voluntary trade and free market. That's not the case if you're trading voluntarily with somebody you getting rich actually implies that you're making other people. Richer as well not one hundred percent of the time. But it at least the implication that other people are exchanging with you because they perceive themselves to be getting something out of this that democrat towered Scholtz Jewish. Searching for Jewish guy to mention I bought a Starbucks on the wane. It's good reliable. I mean, the guy became a billion or of cough from coffee thunk it. We all had it in our kitchen. He started offering its but this guy for. Jewish billionaire. And of course, I usually, of course, the really great fortunes, billions of create. I mean, your example of the trade the gains from trade is obviously good start. But in a way, let's let's just cut to the chase and say that if you're wealthy family, if you've got a lot of well, then probably you built some kind of business that created enormous value for others. That's in the context of a free market, though. See the thing that. 'cause becoming wealthy can be zero sum game. Like if I've robbed bucks from Europe pocket, and I it was euro some game. I did take that from Richard. So isn't the irony of Bernie Sanders who has this world view that if you have wealth, you're basically someone else's poor because you're wealthy this fixed pie fallacy, and the irony is that the only time when that is actually true is through the state, either directly or indirectly? That's the only time when it is actually. And yet his solution to this problem is everything through the state more crap'll is more crony capitalism and not less. Absolutely. But then that being said if Jews or any group for that matter, but we're talking about Jews if Jews are making wealth of something that is connected to the state or directly working to the state. Then couldn't that fixed pie way of thinking be somewhat accurate Jews are making money at the Federal Reserve or through the military industrial complex or something. Like that. Then wouldn't it in that sense for the haters out there, wouldn't they be somewhat correct? In saying these guys are getting wealthy, and they're basically stealing it. Yes. From people. Absolutely. I mean now because you have to have more knowledge of early twentieth century Germany than I do I suspect that by and large those Jews became wealthy through their dealings so their dealings in the marketplace. Well, yeah, certainly, I mean, look, my my great grandfather who was killed in Nazi Germany. He was a well to do guy for the time, and he owned a couple shoe stores. That's how he did. It wasn't like some connected banker. He wasn't robbing anybody wasn't getting any tax money. He's just started a few shoe stores, and they were popular and he worked hard and did. So certainly, I agree with you. And that's probably the vast majority of people I still maintain that even in this economy. I go with done Boudreau the economy. John insight that that if you still see ecconomic progress as I do if you simply add up the. Goods and services that people buy today that they used to buy the average person even the poor person the poor people who you know, the half the poor people on their own cars, they own their houses. That's if you're in poverty you on your own house. I still see economic progress. Therefore, I think that's the litmus test that probably the market still still matters in this economy, people still make a lot of money. Most of the billionaires that that I know that are singled out made them money more or less legitimately how it should certainly didn't Starbucks. And so those are the people we hate, so I I take your point. It's very important one very important one for us to point out. I mean, indeed the, by the way recently got into a dispute on Twitter that this left wing guys. Yeah. Yeah. You guys are all saying, well, it's all chronic. This is crony capitalism, but crony capitalism is inevitable, and we just wanted to won't be inevitable if you'll just join us for a stand up to it right to vote out of office, the politici-. Who favorite to to to call the tune on on on Bernie Sanders, very important point. But with spec to the Jews by in large as you were saying, the Chinese in the oriented in Malaysia other groups that Jews have been notorious for being money lenders for being very good at money to becoming economists. And that that's one of the reasons the why questions I've said alternately does that mean you have to expel them that you have to kill them? Well, we could get a little further down the road to explain a little bit more about wide use by only want to oppose a moment and say that when Bernie talks about those millionaires and billionaires I just want to ask them burning to you also mean, those millionaire billionaire Jews and don't you recognize that that if you're wrong if you're wrong, then you're hate-mongering hate mongering is playing into the hands of the anti-semites. And in fact, there are a lot of you know, there was a lot of talk. About the libertarian to alt-right pipeline and alt-right is kind of one of these big umbrella terms, which encompasses a lot of people. But if you were just talking about d like there are people at there's not a big movement. But there's a lot of people out there who are more or less neo-fascists. Who are there are some people who identify as national socialists on online today like that? And it will. Yes. And the truth is that while there was a lot of talk about because there were a few of them who were libertarians. And then when that direction, but actually, I think a lot of them were socialists and went into that direction. And really to me at least it seems like there's much more of an easy transition from being a Bernie Sanders type to being a fascist because if you're going to sit there, and you're gonna already group people together, and you're going to you're not particularly concerned with individualism. But rather you see people in collectives and you're saying it's the billionaires, and it's the banker's. Well, I mean, it's not much of a leap to go from that and say like, well, if we're talking groups here. Sure does seem to be a lot of Jews involved in there. I heard someone say once I think it was a fascist who made this joke, but it actually was kind of funny to me, I think it's like an old fashioned joke. But he said if you say, I hate the bankers, they'll call you a communist if you name the bankers, call you a fascist see in other words, you start getting into who the bankers are a lot of times there's going to be, you know, a whole lot of Jewish names in there. And then all of a sudden, you're more just like advocating like we say now Bernie Sanders would say, that's horrible. That's a horrible thing to do. It's just the billionaire. But yeah, you're as you point out. It's not much of a leap. He's got. He's got to realize that you know. I mean, of course, he's also wrong about hating the millionaires and billionaires, of course, legitimate. But but that's also K. But at least I want to make that point that the socialist. Economic philosophy which is that a millionaire billionaire is somebody who took it from others who robbed it from others that essentially fuels Jew hating. But now I want to get to the next level of insight and bring you by easy stages to the next level, which which starts you mentioned Joe the signature joke. One of my favorite Jewish jokes. Insider joke is why did God make gentiles because somebody has to pay retail. Now. That's that's a joke that we Jews. Don't normally tell gentiles. That's right. We don't want to offend them. But but it does get out. Now. What do we really think of my grandfather who ran us clothing store? He told my father, and my father actually implemented this when you are bargaining with gentile. And when the gentle says can we split the difference? That's a sign of weakness on the part of the just say, no, I'm not gonna bark in because then you know, you have them. So there's a certain arrogance streak. That's what I'm trying to say that the a certain condescension that Jews have to adjust. Well, we start with the proposition that we're the chosen people correctly. So yes, there's a certain arrogance that -ticipant in my point. But I'm gonna put even more stark flesh on it. Okay. You're just to further your area dishing that of course, the Jews originated monotheism, and they were the first ones to say in approximately the. The sixth century BC when they were a little bit ambivalent about other other other tribes God's, but then they finally lay down the law that that it's in is AO quoting from the bible that that just I am the first I am the last and beside me there is no other God. In other words in the sixth century BC? They were sub sounds like a chick. It's really suddenly put it down. You wanna be with this guy? You gotta get rid of all your other gods. Exactly. Okay. Sounds like a white woman woman. What like a relationship? All right. I'm sorry. Yes. You keep going to go down that route. Yes. Continue in historical disquisition ratio hand next time you want to anyway. But okay. Well, I'm saying that this is a point that's been bathed that that that this is a tribe the comes along there little bit about other gods and something and six century BC. They suddenly say, Nope. Your gods are not only beneath us. They don't even exist. You gentiles non-jewish people. And very arrogant attitude to take and and on top of that the God that we've got the only guy that actually does just has chosen as you said so works out pretty well, very arrogant statement to make okay, so who are these people? And then there's no I can't go with the y any further back than that. But I can say that to begin with. We have a tribe of people who have an Eric streak, and we don't we have to admit that that doesn't mean that you should kill us. It doesn't that you have to like us. I myself proud of being Jew because I think that yet used to have an air constrict. But I think they have some other wonderful quality. I think that you you are Jewish comic. Dave, I was when I think I think that didn't even know if you read a whole lot of Philip Roth, but the -rageous when I heard you say today to to rob just throughout this line. I can't even reproduce. It reminded me of when you said, you're not really enjoying the Dave Smith show. This you jerking off you. Great inspired comment. I didn't do a Justice. Philip Roth has the frontier, for example to come along. And and write about masturbation, but port news choice might complain the skull and the cover of jerking off. The the evidence is everywhere liver. I banged behind a billboard on the way to a bar mitzvah. I fucked my own family's dinner. He he messed base with his family's liver. Crazy crazy jokes. So I love being that you I revel in it. But, but we have to admit yes, there is an Eric St. and you if you gentiles and many of them over the years, I've spoken to many I met a guy who told me it was an Irish Catholic. Choose look down on you. They look down on you say, no, I'm offended, by the way, Jewish people look down on you when you actually start talking to them. So indeed, they do get offended a little bit bios. Now. Now, of course, you and I because we don't want we we want to do our against you. And I. We were proud of what we're good at. But but we have to admit that us as a group have a certain streak of our again's. And I think that that is part of the reason why we're hated. Yeah. And and and then when you then now to pick up on the history the come along where we're the only one who got the only God. And we would shows in and on top of that interestingly enough in the bible, how often Jews bargain with God Abraham bargains with God is Jacob. He's called Israel because he wrestles with angel really standing up to there's another Jewish Okade, spare me the physical pain and let me worry about the spiritual. And of course, that's that's really standing up to God, again is Jewish arrogance. But then now cut to the next now it's going to be a very fastest, Dave. I'm not going to dwell each century. Okay. Because then what happens is that is that nNcholas wait, for example that use have accused because of. Because forced into finance. But I've read nNcholas wait on this beyond the dawn. I believe it was Goldie. Well, let's see it was either on or beyond the dawn. What's the book? I'm quoting from its well, this was called the troubling. Inheritance? Actually, he's written. Another nNcholas New York Times, collars. He he does maybe comes down to hurt on the accurate shoe. But he does say that that that it it took it took about a thousand years for the Jews to keep giving birth to smarter smarter, people the rabbis and the money lenders actually leaves out. The rub is which is the rabbis have ten kids. And and another near the Catholic priest the smartest and most and the heads of the church, they had some illegitimate kids, of course. But they didn't have these large families that nurture the way the rabbis did and there because the money lenders the successful had big families those big families Cape birth to others. So there was a certain selection. The thing that weighed actually also leaves out is that is that the most tenacious with the ones who. Remained us because. Becoming a gentile converting and leaving the faith when you're part of a persecuted minority the Jews persecuted for centuries in in Russia, Venice, Charlotte starter marries. A and it was very typical. So the most so why would you wanna remain a Jew? And when you pass you you're not black. You don't have the skin. You don't have the Mark of Cain on you. So to speak so yet, so who remained this fragment remained? And that's the people from you. And I send it from these two nations Jews, my grandfather who had no who, of course, was fleeing the zora's draft who who who had a real suspicion of gentiles who knew about programs. He had absolutely no qualms about cheating gentile. And of course, he thought he was he he read talent. He was he had a covenant with God. So he had that arrogant attitude all I'm saying is that that's the legacy. We come from. So you so the Jews then looked on as strange arrogant. Money ridden good at money. And so just like develops for them a hatred develops for them. And so, of course, that's as far as I can take it, obviously. I mean, the other point by the way made by this book, the guy wrote the book, why the holocaust something I wasn't totally aware of we is that Hitler only wanted to expel the Jews initially. He yes, he in fact is a key moment was actually getting touch with Stalin and is asking Stalin if we'll take one and a half million Jews off his hands. If he could ship them to Russia, but then hit live course being allows crazy planner suddenly nexus, France and Poland he's got millions of Jews under under his authority. And then it turns out that the rest of the world doesn't want to take any Jews or practically none. And so he stuck with millions of Jews. That's decides on the final solution. Now, the one of the things that you touched on there right with your own family history was the Jews. Intense dislike and the mutual dislike for czar. Oh, I think a big part of this was why so many Jews flocked to the Bolshevik revolution. Because they were very happy to see a revolution in Russia because his are was not friendly. But it's an understatement is not friendly to the Jews. But I think one of the other things, of course. Yes. But one of the other things that I think leads to a lot of people hating Jews is that Jews have been right at the center and incredibly influential whether you can call them Jewish movements or not, I suppose the bagel but something like the revolution Jewish Marxism, the Bolshevik right after Jewish. Yes. Yes. And the fact that wall when when the when the communist I took over in Russia there were carve outs made for Jews Christians were far more. Persecuted than the Jews were in the early days before World War Two afterward. I think that actually isn't true because Stalin turned on the juicy. Yes. But not at first I believe he became a Jew hater afterward. And I think part of that had to do with Israel to I think when Israel like they thought Israel would be like a more favorable them because they were mostly socialists who started Israel and Israel became chummy with Britain and the United States. And then I don't know exactly the details of that. But I do know that the Jews were like disproportionately involved in the Bolshevik revolution. And then after they took over the juice flocked to the communists, and I'm sure in in Nazi Germany, this contributed a lot to the hatred of the Jews. I know that Hitler connected. The two like the Jewish plot in the communist plot were all very interrelated. So do you think there's something that? Yes. Oh, absolutely. You know that indeed. I mean segues into my other point, which is that part of the Jewish personality for good for end for ill is. Is the messianic urge now again because I hasten to add for those who who little bit doubtful of what David saying brought Restos we're talking about Jews group, and we're not talking about particular Jews. David. I of course, a very humble people. And so we're except I'm very humble, I happened to be right about everything. But I'm overall and I'm right ninety six percent of the time four percent, no enough. I think percent, but the point, but, but the point is that that that we are also have to admit that while the messy end Nissim messianic urge, of course, isn't unique to Jews. We also mentioned the Chinese owned a lot of property. Other other groups that tend to be good at managing business in the case of the Jews the messianic urge is indeed what attracted them honestly to communism. What's messing ISM? Of course. Obviously the messiah comes and it's a game changer. Everything changes. Suddenly a good new world all the bad stuff goes away. And and all and mostly. It's the good stuff that comes in. That's that's of course, the messiah that's Jesus Jesus being Jew. So that's been no marks hated religion. And haiti. Jews in his writing certainly is that Messiaen has right. A communist utopia wraps. It is is about how you can hurt. Cattle in the evening Jaski, Toby fishermen one day or the next day or even just the morning afternoon on somebody. You know, this guy has never heard it cattle. If you could just do the couch. Cattle vide- demanding but next realize, but and indeed it's Trotsky actually rhapsodised over about how how how good and Beethoven would just be the average person in communist utopia and everybody else would just SuperBeets just crazy stuff about all the wonderful, the very seductive and Freud Freudianism was messianic that we could complete be completely liberated from from neurosis. And and by the Neo cons Freud failed them. Lot of them are ex socialist Jews the Neo cons, which Pearl. Bullets. Going back to to urban crystal Bill Kristol's father who all of those Neo what they embraced a new kind of Messier's spread democracy by the sword to foreign countries. That's messing bring democracy to Iraq kill people in democratic. Although, of course, obviously, I hasten to add that it's a new version of we'll Sonian ISM. So that Wilson was of course, now that you so there's there's overlap, but user tracked it too messy. And there are of course, Neo cons who are not Jews. I mean, there's a Bill Buckley or someone like that who basically as influential in the whether you call Neo, but he was as influential over the direction, the Republican party took as any and in fairness to belco who died Buckley, actually was against the Iraqi war. It's interesting is was he. Yeah. No. He really was. No, honestly. And then, of course, George will who's another, of course, interesting case younger than but to will who was quite an intervention. It's quite hawk for years. I mean because now we're getting. Mission. Buckley, and 'cause he's well known. But he was Sal, Vietnam. I'm almost positive going into it. He didn't want it. I ninety nine percents. Sure. The point is when you get when you get the older group. Buckley was of course, a lot older than the Neo kind. Buckley died in his eighties six five years ago. Once you've been around the block a little bit, and you get a little bit weary of it does where you town to see all these failed wars. So Buckley, we actually was down on that. As was and George will. Of course has become a sort of fellow traveler with libertarians as you probably know having been a super hawk in the old days. But any case, you're absolutely right. That of course, I could list them, no producer. It's Richard Perle Wolfowitz who has of course, max pood-, I guess is a German. So there are exceptions. But they are it gets back to your eighty percent. Dave, maybe it's only sixty percent, right? But still pretty disproportionate when iron economists site is we say the baseline guys the baseline is one point seven percent. One point seven percent shoes. So you'd expect them proportionately if if you're proper representation list, and you want equal outcomes. Then only one point seven percent of the cons should be Jews. Only one point seven percent at doesn't it just doesn't work out that way, Doug it into the healthy double digits. So my point is about the messy and ISM is that is that the my mother, the communist party was disproportionately Jewish. Mommy was a commie. The message of the communist was was was seductive. And then now to you and me I started out that way. And of course, I had the messianic streak, and then hopefully amid of course, now the Jews were proud of. We have a lot to answer for crawl Marx. Trotsky Rosa looks and broke Bernie Sanders. But then on our side who do we got measles? Roth Roth part of let's even mentioned nine rant because. And of course, let's mention Milton Friedman legend water block, you know, I call them rabbi block, the way talks, so Israel Kerzner. So so and once again that one point seven percent baseline is wave violated, and and the real father of economics, muses, and his the Socrates. I would say Boston economic species and the Plato which was Rothbart who really wrote it up and taught me and had a deep influence, you know, that you so that's that's true. There's there's no question that the libertarian free market economics, anarchy capitalism. All of these things are in the same way that you could say the Bolshevik revolution or Neo conservatives are very disproportionately influenced by Jews. No question about it. Disproportionately influenced by the biggest pillars that we have our were Jewish, and of course, with other in the same way that we could then mentioned. The others futures. Also, we have our Lew, Rockwell's and Tom woods. And that's led to the gentiles. Gentiles. Look we love. Tom woods. We admire him a great, gentle and Murphy Murphy, another great gentile. That's right. It's joke. Scott horton. Another tile Hayek was a tally made his contribution, basically. So let's drink. But if you think about it, I wasn't quite as good as Rothbart so high high had a lot of problems, but but no he wrote their hand for the very great essays by a had nothing nothing compared to me says nothing compared to to Rothbart, but still still do when you and I go to a communist haven't. We really have a right to even press the man's pants must less. China's shoes hike is still the great. He I agree. I agree. But he was gentle. But but I'm what I'm getting at is. That is that I have to recognize that that here, you might say my just with conventional guy, I become at the age of seven Stalin us at the age of fifteen a democratic socialist. And then in my twenties, I read Rothbart and it become a libertarian. And and so what am I what are these extreme juice who's always looking for the messiah messy in? But, but you, and I hopefully would insist that while the radical the ability to think in radical terms to go to the root, which is part of the Munich mind, and indeed, I guess part of the part of messing to seek a better world that's part of our libertarianism. But we would still insist we would still insist that were not pushing utopia when we're not we're not claiming that you can. Hurt. Cal the evening. Not naming the there'd be no word. No violence. No, rapes. No, bad stuff. You know? So it's a more. It's a realistic picture of the potential for a much better world that you and I have settled with. However, the fact that that there are so many juice who are libertarians. And that and that and that perhaps the most important libertarian who have lived Murray. Rothbart was a Jew is no coincidence. I agree. And that's and we certainly have that going for our team. That's nothing makes me prouder to be a Jew than all the great Jewish libertarian who have contributed to that school of thought. That's right. Let me ask you about this. Because this is something that I hear that comes up a lot with people who are critical of Jews Jewish influence, particularly in America. There seems to be this. Theme that Jews have that they form these groups that are aware of pushing Jewish interests, but don't but they're not up front about that. So, and I think that actually Ilhan Omar kind of touched on this and really set off quite a firestorm when she said there are these people who have dual loyalty and the truth is that a lot of a lot of those Neo conservatives who you're talking about who were socialists who were on the left, and then formed this this kind of the neo-conservative group a lot of what their big problem with other leftist was that a lot of the leftists at the time the black power the Black Panther movement things like that they started aligning themselves with the Palestinians and be critical of Israel, and all of these people, even when they don't talk about it in public. They had a very deep seated Jewish identity, and they were always super concern. Turned with Israel than to this day, the Neo content, and that's always been like right up there. It's really America and Israel. Those those are the concerns, and it does seem like a lot of times they champion what could be considered a lot of left wing causes at the time at civil rights movements later, gay rights movements LGBT movement things like that a lot of not just the Neo cons, but different Jews in general seem to champion these things where it's like a we don't want white people. We don't want the European people to be able to persecute a minority, and they put a different minority up there. But a lot of times that seems like it really comes from the fear that it's like, well that minority ends up being us if we allow this type so it seems like they have a Jewish identity, but are very anti white groups having a white identity. Does that make sense? Let's get into something very I I was gonna make some of the more obvious. But you're saying that who's they in the pronoun that age. Choose they choose vase news, juice, shoes, whereas Jews Jewish Denny. But they're not they're not up front about it. Now, they don't seem to they don't seem like you don't have to search deep into the reading to find it the writing. Well. Yeah. Okay. Of course, I would maintain because they're not up front about a lot of things because the the real embed, the real condemnation feeling Omar was that she was at how dare you associate Jews with money. How dare you? And then I was just reminded Phillip, Roth, young brilliant, novelist. Writes, a story called defender of the faith about conniving Jews. Dare you say that us can ever be conniving and use their Jewishness for dance. How dare you say that we Jews ever do anything nasty because that's that's an anti-semitic tropy. And so so, of course, obviously, very insecure with very touchy and stead of instead of saying that we. We no longer have to insist that we're not smart. We no longer have to insist that we're not era that we. Yes, we're arrogant. Yes. Was smart. Yes. We're funny. Yes. We're a lot of things. Yes. We push economic you. And if you don't like us for that fine. But but just don't kill us seems reasonable me. Just don't. But obviously, I actually, of course, there's a libertarian. I would say look if you don't want us to join your country club. That's fine. With me. I'm not I'm not, but but just don't kill. We don't have to be that. Until until we stand up for our cells in say that we have the right to live in this in this capitalist in a market economy and pro transact with gentiles live in cities. We find a lot of jazz like us a lot of gentiles love Mel Brooks, Melk blurs the line. I love of his went asked. What do you say to those people who call your Umer, vulgar because Jews have a huge vulgar streak? Mel Brooks as I say up yours. And of course, that way you talk date. Sure it sticking up when it is a good point that Jews and blacks as well are. Incredibly disproportionately represented in comedy. And you know, how do you know, it's hard to exactly what leads to that? But Jews if you're naming the great comedians ever, you can list Jews all day long blacks as well. And of course, and of course, it's good that you let interesting of a bond between blacks because the edgy comedy, the edgy comedy, which is your stock in trade, which which is of course, that actually gets back to that. I was gonna tell you the inside story that that guy. I won't even mention him. He was a there was a two Jews were debating fate of flack real estate, but these two Jews I don't want to these two Jews white Jewish guys middle aged privileged shoes. They went debate debating the government policy toward black people. And and they were both afraid of the shadows. Oh my God. What to say the wrong thing? And so and so when Dave Smith gets up there and makes a joke about Africa, this terribly offensive joke. We can't even repeat me on the edge. You said that African Africa's basically poor continent. They don't have a lot of wealth. I don't know where I got the. And you said that and you made a joke about it. And then and then one of the Jews got up in the debate. And he said that if I'd been told this tasteless performer would be appearing on the show that I would never have appeared this evening, and Dave this is funny. Dave, then editorialize on it on his show and say, why didn't the guy and have the integrity to just walk off to walk off the stage if so if he so offended by my and and I of course, big an percents. Dave doesn't understand I'm Jewish businessman? The show would have been over. Well, that is a good point be. I will. But I just hate. It's like, then don't say anything. I mean, if you're going to go up and be like if I had known this was the deal, I wouldn't be taking this check right now. But I will take this check. But I'm just letting you all know, I wouldn't have taken it. But, but this is the inside story that that I discovered when the guy sent me all as Email, and we had a back and forth. And I realized what Israel problems he he is so afraid of shadow that he really thought that it was important for him to repudiate, which you would just said in case anyone saw this and thought he was a part of some racist paranoid paranoid that he thought that Dave Smith edgy jokes would be imputed to him. That's how insecurity just and that that impulse. Just bothers me so much. I hate that. It's one of the things that I hate the most about two thousand nine teen America and not just two thousand nineteen America. It's been my whole life. It's been like. Although it does seem like it's gotten crazier recently. But the idea that grown people can't just have a conversation, and and have ideas out there without everyone being worried that someone's going to be accused of some type of bigotry that you're going to be called racist, or homophobic, or Zena phobic. It's like, and that you can't just have these ideas out there. I mean, it really that really really bothers me. And it's just it's like, it's it's makes everything so dumb and uninteresting. Everyone's gotta be afraid of what to say. There was one moment in the debate. And this is why I wasn't surprised that that was what was motivating this guy. And there was a moment in the debate. I don't know if you recall this. But there was like a black kid who asked a question. Coleman news. Was that is that the kid that kid is very aspect? Komen us when I say kid, I mean, it was i