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"dave smith" Discussed on The Joe Rogan Experience
"It's a lot. It reminds me a lot of the george. W bush mentality of like you know instituting torture and all these other things like well. What about laws against this. It's like nine eleven man. I know about laws and rules but in we're here and so we're fa they feel like because this thing happened. I don't worry about silly. Little things like the fucking bill of rights. Who's got time for that. We gotta be careful. Don't pass an act and give it a good name. The patriot act exactly like you can't be non patriot. Shit passed the patriot. Act they if they come up with something like the safety act. Let's keep grandma live. Act they say do this all the time. But for this one did you. About the anti lynching bill there was an anti lynching bill and they would people for being like against so and so like paul. He was one of those. He voted against the anti lynching bill. And you're like okay i. What else was in isn't lynching already illegal like so so explain to me. What exactly was in. And then it turns out that rand. Paul's problem was that he goes this like really. Broadly defines what a hate crime is and now it seems like if someone were to get in a bar fight you could give them like twenty years under like some hate crime legend. He's like let's slow down on that. That seems a little crazy. And then they're like you just four lynching and it's like wait. This is really weird did you can't just name a bill something and then say if you're a patriot. Act all the shit. Yes they should not be able to name bills provocative names should just have numbers. Yes you know. And that's it. You only get a number. You can get a name. Names have a lotta shit attached to yeah absolutely especially anti lynching but there's and there's even like a they call obamacare the affordable care. Act everything they put his like this nice thing that nobody could possibly be against you. Be against affordable care for you hate people mondro people. That's what's wrong with you dave. Listen i think we've fucking covered it. All we fixed everything. Did we know where was that. Was that half hour twenty minutes ago. Twenty that was the exact moment he nailed. Everything went three and a half hours. How long do you guys were talking before. We started three hours three hours lose all sense of time. Yeah flies buying here. I just know when. I really have to let everybody know your twitter instagram. All that jazz. My twitter is at comic dave smith. The podcast is part of the problem and the legion of skanks of course and twitter instagram. They just started me an account at the problem. Dave smith on instagram at the problem. It's the problem dave smith. You're a problem is that what's gonna i think so i don't run it but flips out of shed. Some of the guests digital people started for me. Because i'm retarded and don't have an instagram twenty. Twenty yeah how did you not have an instagram. I don't know i. I can't do anymore social media i just you know. Well that's why you're so good at these fucking conversations because you're actually paying attention to shit. I spent too much time on twitter as it is the problem smith i got i got no phone. Pump you up there. You go follow me on twitter. I got a little bit of followers on their twitter. Dying dying presents gonna kill it on his last days in office facility really. That'd be now it's just a war of who can kill him. I or the president's twitter illegal last few days in office his cars more harm than good over but then twitter blocks his tweets. Legal a war of jack doors. Donald on the way out by support twitter. And i'm gonna wear a mask in my profile. Someone told me what twitter is my profile. He haw pronouns. Alright dave thanks brother appreciate. This is fun good-bye. Everybody thank you for tuning into the show. Thank you.
"dave smith" Discussed on The Joe Rogan Experience
"This happened but they do think that it coincides with the end of the ice age and the end of the ice age. There's a dramatic climate change somewhere around twelve thousand years ago and which would put it at around ten thousand b c somewhere around twelve thousand years ago. This is where randall. Carlson and graham hancock and a bunch of others have have really gotten into this younger dries. Impact theory and that is somewhere between twelve thousand and ten thousand issues and have modern multiple occasions. We were hit and that this was essentially a restart of civilization in a lot of areas and an end to the ice age and a lot of areas as well and randall. Carlson's work fucking spectacular. When he showed you these images that indicate massive melting of ice over a spectacular landscape in really amazingly short period of time like a couple days worth of water pouring through a fucking trillions of gallons permanently. Moving the landscape changing it moving stones and he has all these images. And what's even crazier as he got this idea when he was looking at this one area on asset once and he was like what happened here and he he got. This idea is like what is this. And then he starts researching the end of the ice age and he starts researching common impacts and then they start finding all this corresponding evidence in in When they do core samples so doing core samples and they find all this iridium and all this nuclear glass impact glass. They find all this shit around the same area around twelve thousand years ago and like all god and so he starts he. He's a brilliant guy and he can talk about this forever and they think that it's highly likely that there was Not just here. But in many parts of the world there was massive impacts. That probably didn't kill everybody but probably basically shut down all progress for who knows how many hundreds if not thousands of years. And then what you're seeing when you're looking at two thousand five hundred bc and all amazing structures was the knowledge they had left and all that and a lot of those lost to the library of alexandria getting burnt down right so the stuff that they built later spectacular but they've been building pretty amazing shit for most likely thousands of years before we thought they were. Maybe we're due for a reset. Well that's the scary thing right fucking retarded shit. That people are saying that. Maybe that's the right thing. Maybe we're due for a nice old fashioned reset. Well murray who had on the podcast said that when people when civilization start crumbling that some people get obsessed with gender. And i said really and he goes yeah go. Sits in ancient rome and greece is like a lot of transvestites and a lotta people swapping genders inch. It's almost like a dissolving of all classifications barriers and things that we took for granted as society society really starts falling apart. They start questioning every last fiber of of of what it means to be a person and what it means to fit into the culture. Will you know. I like a like. I became like politically radicalized in the from. Ron paul's campaigns. That's really where i got. When i got interested in in politics like iran. Two thousand seven two thousand eight when he was running for president and i just loved still this day. Love the guy i think. He's the like the greatest hero ever But he would always talk about how like look. We're on basically this path toward national suicide my words not his but he'd be like we're on this unsustainable path where we're spending way more than we can afford to spend way too extended militarily and this is how nations collapsed. And this is like it's going to happen if we keep going this way. So i always kind of had that view in my head and then to see what's happened with all the cultural stuff over the last ten years wall. All of that other stuff is going on to. And you're like this really feels like the end of lake collapsing empire. It really feels like that. Well they taught us that in school that all empires eventually collapse media whether it's ancient greece. Ancient rome all these ambrosia empire controlled everything and they've they all eventually fell apart and it's under very similar circumstances like they're extended too far. They spend themselves too far into debt. They can't maintain it anymore. Culture kind of collapses like decadence. And all this other shit and it does seem like we have a lot of that. Oh yeah but but that isn't necessarily bad like sometimes empires collapse and it's actually. It's okay for the people in that country. It was okay for england when the british empire collapsed. I mean world war two was bad but the afterward you know there's still an okay country for for the soviet union. That collapsing was the best thing that ever happened. That's where those arguments always strange. Because that's the same argument. They used about gingas. Kahn opening up the path for trade. You know he killed ten percent of the population s in the long run. Look but you got a new rug. Yeah good get a nice statute you know who really love this rug out. He's dead lips. Get it Does rand paul share. Most of ron paul's ideas. I don't know. I mean. I think probably a lot. You know his his his son. I know ron paul made him read all the right stuff of growing up. You know But he definitely has some areas of disagreement and he's also just a different. I think he's a different person and has different. You know Strengths and weaknesses and wasn't quite as charismatic. Wasn't as charismatic. Wasn't as much of a happy warrior ron. Paul was really. He really enjoyed going out there and telling people the truth as he saw it and talking to people and just and he didn't really care. If you know it was always kind of like ron. paul would say things at the republican debates. And it'd be like hey look you guys might bumi out of the arena and that's fine. I'm going to go home to my family. And i told the truth. It's the truth whether you like it or not and that's fine. You can do that. Not leave and rand always. I think it bothered him a little bit more and But you know rand is i. I think for to me. Like one of the best senators. And i think he's done a lot. He did a lot to really push. Donald trump on The the criminal criminal justice reform He's tried his best to push him on ending the wars. I don't know how successful he's been at that but But i don't know that he's going to inspire people in the same way his father did i hope he does Someone has two but isn't that what we're always looking for. We're always looking for a hero when really we need decentralized government. Well yeah but that doesn't that doesn't mean you can't have leaders or somebody who liked kind of which was leaders done with leaders. Dave chappelle tried it out. It doesn't work well. But i don't mean there's a difference between leaders and rulers right. You don't wanna rule all right but there's there's people who inspire you who you learn from and stuff like that you wanna you wanna leader. That doesn't want to be a ruler. Yes exactly. That's ron paul was. Yeah isn't the problem. Though the problem is they get into power. This is one. We're seeing with low level. People like governors Like the worst governors. They just there. You know there's all lawsuits against newsom. And he lost one of them recently. Because he's an autocrat now is telling people what they can do is writing legislation. Did you see When tucker carlson had a governor murphy from new jersey on his show and he it was it was like right at the height of covid. Like i think it might have been in may or something like that but it was still like pretty new and so like everyone's no one's given. I hadn't seen one tough interview with one of these governors like every time they came on some new show it was just like oh my god. You're saving lives in your wonderful and thank you for all of this. And then they have their press conference they take some questions but it wasn't talker just starts grilling this guy. Any asked at one point he goes okay so recently there was a church service that you shut down and you arrested for jewish people for being at temple and there's and he goes. What right do you have to do that. Because i mean in the bill of rights it's very clearly defined that the right to religious expression is you know like so. Where do you get the authority to shut down a place of worship. And he goes he goes well. You know we weren't thinking about the bill of rights when we did this. We're just trying to keep people safe. And then he goes he was like yeah. But where do you get the authority and he goes. Well that's above my pay grade like governor. That's exactly you're pay great. That's exactly what you're paying but so that's just what like that's the mentality that swept over these people. It's a lot. It reminds me a lot of the george. W bush mentality of like you know instituting torture and all these other things like well. What about laws against this. It's like nine eleven man..
"dave smith" Discussed on The Joe Rogan Experience
"This is like when we even in the cold war. They'd be like we'll fight it out in vietnam but like no one's going to russia. No one's coming to america. We're not gonna. actually you know. Do something where we could get fucked over. What i was getting to is i. I wonder if that's always going to be the case because here we are you know. Obviously nineteen forty seven that one about trump the bombs for five thirty five. So it's quite a while ago. Yeah but not. In terms of the age of the earth. Not at all in terms of history. You know in in historical times if you look back on seventeen forty five versus teen twenty. It doesn't not that big of a difference when you go to fifteen forty five to sixteen twenty in your eyes. It's like the same time. Like how world war vets alive right now. Fifteen forty five fourteen forty five to fifteen twenty like i ain't shit nothing so it could happen again own way. We look at covert now the way we look at a pandemic now having just gone through it we could be looking at a nuclear holocaust the same way we could. We could be looking at someone detonating a bomb in chicago. We could be looking at the possibility that we are really locked down. Like the really are draconian measures to ensure safety insecurity because they have detonated a nuclear bomb in an american city. Yes we right now. That sounds like horsh it. World war two world war one crazy people before it happened then it really all happened and then they go to world war one then. They did it again. Twenty years later they just went up. We're doing it again. Which is for us the year two thousand which is like yes. Yes. that's right. Yeah so it really never stopped. Yeah that's right. I mean it's like even when you think about like You know like the beef with iran or something like that and they'll be like you know like the cia overthrew their government in nineteen fifty three and then in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine. They overthrew that government and they've basically hated america. Ever since you know but ninety fifty three to nine hundred seventy nine. That's like bill clinton to now. Yeah i remember bill clinton's presidency while ago but it's like no if someone like just some other government overthrew bill clinton. I'd still remember that right now. I'd be like yeah. These motherfuckers came in and like over through our government so easy for us to get used to what we're used to. Yeah did you ever hear the albert einstein quote which i might butcher but it was something like He said he goes. I don't know what weapons will be used to fight world war three but world war four will certainly be fought with rocks and sticks. Yeah something like that. I might be doing it a little as like at this point. Where at a place where we really can't war war is end game. I mean war with like russia or china or anyone like that. That's even like when people are like. Oh we gotta get china back for what they did with this virus. It's like okay but our options are limited. When when you got countries with a whole bunch of h-bombs your your options are limited as what you can do. Putin world war with wipe out civilization putin warn adding world war four will be fought with sticks and stones. He's he's zach to putin just steel city. I think he is probably kinda great if putin was just. I just thought that maybe doing that. Like an omani to joe biden pines been busted. Plagiarizing much time. Oh yeah yeah. It's i think Our version of what's possible is based entirely on what we've experienced just like. We never remember those photos of those people with masks on in one thousand nine hundred eighteen. You know our version of reality pre covid is been forever altered now that we know the cove exists. And there's so many other things that can happen to us. This is the thing that we're so fragile. We always hear about these comments that are whizzing by an asteroid to get close to earth. One of those mother fuckers could slam into us. And i've had some people that have studied their whole life Versions of these scenarios where civilization has been forced to repeat itself because of the fact that we were hit and that this is probably happened. Multiple times over the ascension of human civilization. And it's one of the reasons why you have these ancient structures in egypt. That are very different in the way they're constructed versus the ones from cleopatra's error versus the ones from Like The the time where they built the great pyramid mukisa and is in there like I remember reading about this like a decade ago. But i so i might not know that much about it. But isn't there something like the the water erosion on the sphinx. Something like that where they can't figure out how this lines up at the time period because this is from like way older. You're that great bit about it. Yeah talking monkeys in space. But that whole thing is like yeah but but in all seriousness. It does seem like there's pretty strong indications that civilization is much older than the official history books of like it starts in ancient grandpa's ago. Graham hancock ca spent a giant chunk of his life talking about this and he brought in dr robert schalk. Who's a geologist from boston. University and john anthony west whose Late great egyptologists. I had on the podcast a couple of times and they are all committed to this idea that it's very likely that what we see in egypt in terms of things that they can date to two thousand bc. This is just one error and that there's likely multiple errors before that and the big one. The big piece of evidence is the water erosion in the temple grades. Thanks because they know that they cut these stones out to create the sphinx but there's massive water erosion on these rocks and the last time there was significant rainfall in the nile. Valley was nine thousand bc so instead of two thousand five hundred bc. Now it's nine thousand and then they have to think well. This is thousands of years of of rainfall that caused us so we might be talking ten thousand eleven thousand so they don't really know when all this happened but they do think that it coincides with the end of the ice age and the end of the ice age. There's a dramatic climate change somewhere around twelve thousand years ago and which would put it at around ten thousand b c somewhere around twelve thousand years ago. This is where randall. Carlson and.
"dave smith" Discussed on The Joe Rogan Experience
"Certainly one of those events but you probably could have said the same thing about the spanish flu. Although i don't think the government or the media was a sophisticated back then and there was a lot more. Who's a lot more hardship in the world period. And then what happened right. After the spanish flu was the roaring twenties right that was immediately afterwards and then of course the great depression. There's been a lot of ups and downs and hills and valleys back then but those people got through that and then stop wearing masks. So when it's weird. We see the photos from the spanish flu. I never knew that they were wearing masks. That people wear masks in public. But you look at these old black and white photos. It's really kind of interesting like oh look at that. It's almost like i know they're real pictures. But if they were some like photoshop and asks on these people and and pretended that there's a pandemic back then that's what it looks like. It looked almost fake. Yeah yeah. I've seen some of those Those photos but i know what you mean where i think like what said is really the heart of it that you go. Life was just so much harder back then here. We go look at this. People sitting around watching a baseball is a football game and look at them. The mass on crazy. But that's still went to see the game here about The flu being down dramatically. Look at these. All these players have masks on. Isn't that nuts. The football squad has masks on what years at jamie i typed in spanish flu sport football game because i remember seeing this picture says it's one thousand nine hundred ninety s onto so Wow that's nuts so they ultimately come up with a vaccine for the spanish flu. is that how. They're playing baseball with the fucking masks on. Wow she doesn't that seem fake to a know. It's real yeah but it seems like what i don't. I never saw these before like nobody. That guy's a rebel. So he's on parlor. He doesn't all something that was like. This was not a mask. I couldn't i couldn't. I don't know what his actually i think. We gotta stop people from wearing mass twitter profiles. Fuck stop. that's basically the same thing as your pronouns bio it's basically the exact thing stop letting everybody else and know that you're a good person if you want to be a good person. Just go be a good person. Some people do podcasts with mass on jesus casino that really. Oh god see by the way. This is what. I hate all of this shit where it's like. How about like and this is one of the things that i hate about woke. Whoa in general to is that it. Lets everybody kind of like pretend. They're let everyone else know. They're a good person. But you don't actually have to do shit does he. Comma harris at one of the press conferences wearing a mask while she was talking one of her speeches. Show a mask on while speaking. there's so many things that are so weird about this whole this whole response related doesn't even make sense even by your own law. No one's near you see when they podium so they cancelled the second debate between trump and biden and then they both had live events the night of the debate. They both had an event that he did one with a trusted one with nbc and by did with cnn. So fucking like wait another. Get on a plane and fucking debate each other. Like what are you doing. Well i think the first one was so aggressive like what trump did was so disruptive and aggressive that was a bad strategy. Yes and i think the second one was brilliant if he did in the first one he did in the second one i think he would have much more momentum coming into the election or maybe if he had had the the middle one so there were three debates. You know like if that one hadn't been canceled he would have had two more opportunities. This third one that while the third one was the one you talked the second. One is that yeah. Let's just talk about the as yet. But i'm just saying like maybe if he had had another debate where he could have handled it the way he did in that second one also maybe if he had to performances like that right help them a little bit. Rise what you're saying. Yeah if you just did that in the first without the bad one without interrupting dallas is so hard to listen to. It was like i was like damn because you know that was when there was talk about like trump was tweeting that he wanted come on here and have him in and biden. Talk for four hours. And i was like what would i do. If he was doing that. I would have to stop them. I have to say. Hey man against sir i understand. You're the president mr trump. He can't do that. Because you've got to let the guy talk and then say anything and then you talk like this is the only way this is gonna work. Yeah but i think you would have handled it like that in a way better way than than chris wallace. Who's doing the best he could and he's also got ninety minutes which is preposterous and they have two minutes answer questions. Which is ridiculous. These are really important questions like. Why do you have two minutes after two minutes like. I think i got a better way to say that. No shut the fuck up. Stop two minutes or over sir. Your time is up. Your time is up like what what kind of. Why is there a rate. it's insane it makes no sense at all and that's one of my favorite things about this show is that you've almost proven i think it's part of the reason. Why so many. So many of those establishment types resent you a lot for it is that you've proven that their whole model is stupid like this model is stupid. Well whoever show where people need time to unpack things and have a long conversation if you're talking about really serious complex issues. The idea that were debating who gets to have the nuclear football. But we've got to do it in this limited time and you'll have thirty seconds each. It's also they don't know what they're going to talk about. That's important to one important things about podcasts. There's there's no no one ever sits down with like okay. We're gonna hit this and then we're gonna hit that. Jones tried to the producer. Well he came. He had things that he wanted to talk about their important. Yeah he that he felt were important. And that's not what you're saying you're talking about more of the scripted talking about me bring things up with them like if if i said sir your job performer. The job numbers and have elevated. What do you attribute that to like that. Kinda shit with yet. Prepare if you have enough time to let these guys talk just talk and no pressure whatsoever on figuring out how to answer a sentence or subject rather coherently. You're going to get a better understanding who that person is now with trump. Everybody thinks already have a good understanding who he is. Because he goes in these long rambling. Self-serving diatribes about subjects..
"dave smith" Discussed on The Joe Rogan Experience
"Gardner this. George floyd case white cop black victim so they have you have to acknowledge the racial aspect of it. I think just by saying justice against killer cops or get rid of killer cops. You're you're not addressing the thing that is maybe most disturbing to many people so that it keeps being calm and a black man. I think that there are. There are certainly videos where that is the case. There's also a lot of videos where that's not the case they don't get the same amount of play by the press but the ones that become viral these big stories but what question of why those ones become such big stories and the other ones. Don't my point. Is that if you when you play up the racial like aspect of it what you end up doing so then you start having this conversation. We're having we're about twice. As many white people are unarmed white people are killed by cops every year than black people but black people aren't half the population of white so black people are like thirteen percent of the population. So for them to be whatever it is like forty percents something like that of the killings. It is disproportionate. Then you have to take into account where the high crime neighborhoods are. How many interactions. They're having with police. I understand there. Are these videos that go viral. What happened to me. In my opinion what happened to george. Floyd was like horrific and people should go to jail over that shit. I think what happened. Brianna taylor was horrific and people should go to jail over that. It's not clear to me at all. That race was a factor in those cases. I could be wrong about that. I just haven't really seen any evidence to suggest that it was but maybe it is. I just think that you you end up going down this route. So one of the activists in minneapolis said this thing. And this is where like woke. Ism comes in to poison the shit from my perspective so he said They don't want to call a call. It police brutality anymore. They wanna call at systemic racism because this is just another form of systemic racism. Forget the police brutality. And what ends up happening when you look at things that way is what you don't get rid of. Is police brutality. What you end up getting rid of is aunt jemima. It becomes a distraction of other issues rather than focusing on the major issues that you care about and to just think. I'm just saying if you wanted to be effective. I think black lives matter would be better off to share some of those videos of it happening to white people also and go look. This isn't just black people's problem. This is a cop on civilian problem. This is a government authoritarian problems. There have been some that went viral. The one that was most disturbing to me was the guy in phoenix shaver. I believe his name was on a yeah crawling. They made him crawl and he kept reaching back to pick his pants up as they're falling down he's crying and begging for his life and the guy lit them up on the ground. The worst one. I've ever seen jane because he made the guy crawl to them. And then he got him down as he was crawling to him and he's screaming out of all time you know. And he had a toy gun or something like that and they saw him with a toy gun out the window and they called in the swat team. So they came in geared up and and revved up There's been a lot of police. Brutality videos The sandra bland. One is particularly disturbing. She didn't do anything wrong. He's telling me to put her cigarette out in her car. Like who the fuck are you to tell her shell yeah. She hung herself or who. We don't know that's part of the problem but the the racial aspect of it when you're a if you're a person who's a black person or any person of color and you see over and over again a white cop killing a black person whether it's representative you're not gonna think when you see those videos. Oh well there's a million interactions and most of them are positive. You just gonna know your experiences with cops and of cops bullied you and fuck with you or maybe. You've been a victim of police brutality. Yourself and then you're gonna think of how many times it's been a white cop doing it to a black person and i think the numbers not insignificant and it has to be addressed yet. Look i certainly understand why that would be a lot of people's perspective. I get that completely. I'm just saying that from the way i look at. It is like. I think that for like really for the first time that i've ever seen i thought leading up to the george floyd situation that right wingers were really getting red pilled on cops like they were actually getting really pissed off at the cops and the were the ones enforcing these lockdowns and they were against it and there was a lot of stuff where right-wingers we'll be like. Can you believe these cops are actually doing this. If they'll shut down you know they were shutting down churches. Something that pisses right-wingers off. And and so and then. When the george floyd thing came out i think pretty much everybody or not everybody but the vast majority of the public was like that is really horrible. What happened to that guy. Yeah and i think there was a lot of energy that could have actually been used for real change. And i think that what's happened since then has basically blown it because they see what happens then when people see rioting and looting who they who they want they want the cops they want the cops back. It's like it's almost like that was proof like it's almost like you're working to prove the right wingers right about what they thought about the cops to begin with which is that. If we don't have cops this is what we have just looting and rioting and violence well if you don't have cops and then you have civil unrest and then also you have a bunch of people that have no money because they've been locked down for all this time and then you have opportunity because you get sheriff's like the one in santa monica that tells everybody to stand down then you have chaos. Yeah that's that's it's a recipe for disaster but it's also it's real easy to break things. It's not so easy to fix them. It's not so easy to bring it all back together again. The way it was eleven months ago like try. Try getting there right now. Scan take you eleven years. Well it's right and you may never get it. You might not like that. I think That i think people the the ones who really wanted trump. And i understand why a lot of them dead. I think a lot of people just had like trump fatigue. I just can't deal with this bullshit anymore. Like i just can't. But i think they they should realize the possibility that we're never going to a pre trump world again like never one hundred percent you know and i think we may never go to a pre covid world again and we may never go to a pre. You know black lives matter world again like we might get closer to that than we are now. But i don't know that we'll ever go back to that time completely in the same way that we never went to pre nine eleven world again or appre kennedy assassination world again. There's certain events in our our history that they change us forever and this is most.
"dave smith" Discussed on The Joe Rogan Experience
"That like the vietnam war drought. So many protests that the war in iraq under george w bush drew so many protests. So why can't why we're trump's wars never like a thing. I think the press covers them differently today than they did during the vietnam era. Now i think that's true. I think the press during the vietnam era was very much the press the ideal view of the press closer much. Yeah it think it's been changed first of all. There's there's a bunch of factors that happen almost together the coincide one of them is the advent of social media and the internet in general and then how people are no longer digesting their news through paper. They're not paying for a newspaper. They're getting in on their phone. And you're now in competition with Buzzfeed and vice and you name it. There's so many choices there's to vox. There's almost too many different the blaze fucking he. Just you can keep going going gone. There's too many different places where you can go to get information so if a website is competing with the new york times the new york times now has to do something in order to get your attention. So what are they do they do at least at least if they don't do click baby stuff. They do provocative things they gear their attention towards. Things they know are going to get clicks because they're starving they're literally fighting for survival whether it's to washington post or even the wall street journal i think lot of these. Newspapers are experiencing significant thing that led to a big increase in the new york post subscribers. Ironically is trump right trump shitting on them and calling the failing new york times a the. Yes yeah. yeah they're trump calling the fan dumb. The failing new york times they started their subscriptions went up. Well this is and this is true. All over the place with corporate media entities that were dying. Msnbc and cnn and a lot of all saw rating surges sure because people wanted to combat trump. Yeah a lot of them. It became the number one focus because of it bleeds. It leads. these are really exciting. Things that people are going to tune into. And it's gonna help our revenue stream so our ideas that the reason why they're showing us the news. Is these the most significant stories that going to impact your life. The most this is what's most important. Not really the case it really is is what's going to get the most attention. What's the most important in terms of like what's going to get the most views which is going to bring in the most advertising revenue and for people online that are writing stories. It's they don't call it. Click bait for a reason. Yeah they do rather click bait for reason that the reason is it's the a trick you in a click in that thing because that's how they make their money that we've created so then they've tried subscription models and i subscribe to the times and i subscribe to the washington. Post i to like four or five different publications and i felt like an obligation to do. I'm getting my news from them. I feel like i should give them some money and that might be the only way these things ever survive is that people get their news via subscription model but to this day some. Send me a link. And i'll click the link and they'll say to subscribe of fuck you and then i'll i won't read it and then i'll google it. I'll try to find it somewhere else. Yeah that works about fifty percent of the time. Just google the title. You should be able to just pay for an article like maybe i'll apple pay five cents for this article. Let me get doubleclick. Did it like the to make me subscribe. Every time i i understand that there's journalists and they're doing amazing work and that they've worked for weeks on this expose and this has been the sole focus of your life and it's valuable. It's valuable to me. It's valuable to the united states as a whole because this one person's intellectual perspective on a very complex subject they boil this down for weeks and weeks here. This is what we've learned about x. that those are important. Sure i'll give you a couple of bucks up but make it fucking easy. Don't make me subscribe and give you my email address. Just make me go to let me go like that'll give two dollars. Yeah it's kinda surprising. They haven't figured that all out close. What apple has but it's not quite it's like in between what you're talking to. Yeah yeah. I have that. But it's still there which is a little you know exactly i. I would like to be able to go to each individual front page. And i think the apparently have time for that. I think the thing you were mentioning earlier about who you trust is like a bigger factor than ever before you know. I trust who online people. Would you know if jimmy door people at glunz yeah. People like the hill crystalline solder. I like them too. I like that. Their show is great graham But you know so it's like and by the way and the best glenn greenwald. He's and you know where he stands hundred. He's a left-wing guy okay journalistic integrity on. So he's not just going to like you know the him. Walking away from the intercept was incredible and There's and jeremy scahill the other guy who was at the intercept with him as a great journalist. Aaron matt Might be fucking up his last name. Have you had him on. No he's great. He's rights for the nation. Did a great job. He's on jimmy doors show all the time. He heated great job of just blowing up the russia conspiracy bullshit and it was more powerful. Because it's like a left-winger doing it. Who's like listen. This is all lies. And like i hate donald trump. But i'm not gonna tell you something that isn't real is real just because i hate him and so if you're smart or if you're fortunate enough to find the right people you can get really good information online but it comes.
"dave smith" Discussed on The Joe Rogan Experience
"I mean the un said it was the worst humanitarian crisis in the world. I this was before covid but i. It's still probably up there. Were well over. A million cases of cholera. Which is basically i mean. Curable with think. Liquids like gatorade could solve cholera. I don't know you might need antibiotics or something like that but it was children and old people just dying and massive numbers. I still don't think they know the exact numbers. It's going to be somewhere. On the scale of what the war in iraq was hundreds of thousands of people. Dead and bernie. Sanders really led the effort to try to end it in the senate. He did a great job on that like phenomenal. He also has a great. He had a great Bill proposed to decriminalize marijuana on federal level Think would be phenomenal. And so there were there. Were several like those would probably be the ones i'd pick that i thought were really great about bernie sanders so i think running on issue. My probably one of my big criticisms of is that he doesn't he doesn't really lead with those issues like he didn't. Those aren't the things. He talked about a lot on the campaign trail but he was excellent on all of those. So i think you could run. He could run on his principles. You know but i think you have to at some point have a little bit of a killer instinct to to become the alpha monkey to become the leader of this country and i thought that bernie sanders could have won the whole election with the tone that he started in the primary and he didn't and i think that bernie sanders like look the corporate press completely came down to try to ruin it for him. Who knows what the dnc did. This time i mean it was exposed in two thousand sixteen. Who knows what they were doing behind the scenes. Well we know what they're doing. We know that was the reason why clothes shar and buddha judge dropped out well that we know that warren state into siphon votes off a burning question. They gave their delegates over to barton. No question we know that much. We know that right now. We don't know exactly who made the phone calls. I think there was reporting. That barack obama had called a couple of them. That's yes it sure does But so that. But you're right. So all the competition with biden and drops out right before super tuesday bernie sanders competition elizabeth. Warren stays until the bitter end. It felt like with bernie even though there's talk that they couldn't control him right. There's also talk that he couldn't win because there were certain key states that he's never gonna win. Because even though that message resonated with a lot of people including me resonated with me as i fall absolving people student debt. I know a lot of people that are wrapped up in student debt. And i think it's one of the best examples of first of all. You have a essentially children right. You have someone who's seventeen eighteen years old. They're going into school and they're taking on enormous debt and they don't. I think you could make the real argument that they don't have the intellectual capacities understand the ramifications of this. Maybe some do maybe some don't but when you're talking about people that are in debt. Hundreds of thousands of dollars by the time they get out of school and then they get out of school and get a job that pays forty grand a year. Do the math. How long before you catch up. You never catch up these people to this day that are getting social security that are getting their social security docked because they own money for student loans. I mean you're at the end of the fuck engage people old enough for social security. Yes student loan debt. Wow that's going on right now. Who made sure that is true. Jamie sounds really pretty sure. it's true. well that is an and they are of a corrupt scheme. Yes sure well. It's a bad system. And i think if we have all this money to go to afghanistan and put on these endless wars the idea that we don't have enough money to provide a reasonably priced education. I'm not saying it should be free. Maybe a little bit. Because i think people work harder when they have to work for something but the idea that you should be hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. By the time you get out in the reality of the economy is that even before cova if you've got out the odds of getting a job that's like going to be able to even put a dent in that debt in your chosen field. Not that good. Oh yeah oh no question about intas. Ninety percents social security payments can be garnished to repay student loan debt. Your monthly benefit cannot sink below seven. Well okay good luck. Living on seven hundred fifty bucks and this is also for people who are what like thirty five now when they retire back and so th this month how long ago man if you think about someone who's sixty five right so once once you know this. Our student loans forgiven after sixty five. There are no student. Loan forgiveness programs specifically for senior citizens. Elderly student loan borrowers are eligible for the same loan forgiveness programs as other borrowers. Well that's crazy it's crazy. It's crazy if you're that old and you're on a fixed income and you really can't physically work anymore and we don't if we're community right and this is one of the things i think about the united states the idea of a country. We're supposed to be a community even though we're broken off into these countries broke it off these cities and we broke it off by ideologies and we're separated by all these different lines in the sand that we draw at the end of the day. We're all contributing to this pool. We're putting our tax dollars in deciding what's important what's not from me student. Loan forgiveness was a big thing because we've got to stop this cycle of fucking people over economically when they're eighteen years old doesn't make any sense fair enough but i just think if like i agree with the spirit of everything you're saying and i think when i when i said it's a corrupt system. It's just that the fact that you have all of these parties involved where you have like the government who's guaranteeing the student loans.
"dave smith" Discussed on The Joe Rogan Experience
"What's up joe back to see if you see. What are you doing in town. I came in. I was Doing my buddy. Scott horton show and Hanging out with him for a little bit and and you're looking for a place to escape. Yeah exactly york Schultz told me that new york is like they just one world war. Three people are dancing in the streets. I was there in union square the other day we did a show stand and it was the day they called it for for biden and as much as i just despise joe biden and kamala harris. It was kind of nice for the city to just have one. Yes a half a day. It's the only day that it's felt happy there since march here to people are haunting the streets. I went and went to dinner with tom girl. He was in town and we're driving on the streets honking. Cheer in people were so happy. I'm happy for people to be happy. Yeah like that. Even if they're happy for a stupid reason well you're like at least be happy. It's just it's too complicated. And you're a guy who knows a lot about politics in the way the world works but it's too complicated to really go into depth about it for most people so so many people just have this sort of cursory understanding politics and then they follow a narrative. The narrative is trump is bad. You get him out biden's good and then you go. Yeah what about the crime bill. What about the iraq war. What about what about what she did. The nobody wants to hear it. Nobody wants to hear all the other one is say. Is that the good guys won. Now we're going to go back to being american again Then pfizer announces a new vaccine Well it would be nice if we could go back to being america again. I think we're still far off from that happening. But you're right that i think most people and this is not just politics. It's true with everything in life like most people have expertise in very limited areas And for everything else you kind of just trusting what somebody else tells you. Yeah and especially with politics. So i know very little about it even though i've read a lot about still like what is all this. You know there's some fucker going on and you know there's a lot of special interests and there's a lot of money and a lot of shenanigans but it's like to really know how this stuff works to really understand lobbyists to really understand how bills get passed to really understand congress to really understand the senate like you got a deep dive for years. Yeah and then you still don't know a lot of it. I mean you know you can go based off. Say like what's been declassified that the cia is doing but do we not know. I mean there's there's a whole lot that we don't know. But i think we know enough to go to know that it stinks that there's a lot of corruption and in many ways i think that's what trump at least the people who support trump saw him as is the guy who was outside that system. Who was kind of fighting for them. Not saying that's the truth. I think that's what a lot of trump supporters saw in him yet. That was the simplistic comic book. Version of what trump was to that is like. And that's where tat cunanan stuff all comes in people thinking that it's really like this plot stop child molesters yeah well and and the system is always corrupt enough to give cover to the wildest conspiracy theory because they are already like you can say okay. Well perhaps cunanan conspiracy theorists believe some really crazy shit but then you just go look at what happened with this jeffrey epstein guy. I mean there really. Was this child sex trafficking ring. That was covered up. I mean we have that woman on. Abc news who was basically broke. the story. and my boss is now. I think it was. Nbc was nbc. Yeah we broke the story but you know they wanted to protect access to the royal family so we would let a powerful multi millionaire or billionaire child sex trafficking ring leader. Go skate because we wanted access to the royal family fucked that how video where the interview. Where princess. Anne prince andrew and princess andrew. Prentice mis gendered. I'm so sorry. Prince andrew is on television with that lady and they're asking them questions about whether or not he was there and what happened and you could see this look in his face like he's never really been questioned before he. The fact that he agreed to do is so weird like he doesn't understand what a trap is. Okay i've never been trump full royal. Yeah is he a royal anymore. They kick them out some happened. I'm not sure. I'm not sure can kick you out. Yeah they can. They kicked out the The doodoo hooked up with the actress. Yeah he he wanted to. I think he left. I left too but he wanted to go back for something. They'll know son you're done. Wasn't this something recent jammie when there's some weird which ones he harry or is that a harry potter thinking harry potter. I think you're right. It's harry harry potter. I just think it's fucked so preposterous that we literally don't know anything that guy's done other than that. He's a prince. Prince harry saddened and disappointed that his request for remembrance day wreaths was denied. No the duke of sussex sloughs. We spend a lot of named sussex. Yeah with saddened and disappointed at the decision to snub. His request for wreath to be laid out at the national memorial in man the level of suffering must go through to get his royal wreath and did not attend. Yeah wonder why.
"dave smith" Discussed on Ari Shaffir's Skeptic Tank
"A good guy because he gets the job. I. Love It. you guys. Let's start our that was a 401 the state of the Union dressed part one, twenty, twenty with Dave Smith. Starts. No. Out. Title. We're doing. We're here. Hello, everybody Hello David Ellison Sorry. Sorry not going to be taken seriously about. Whatever comes next to you. Tonight. Yeah. Sure I guess. It.
"dave smith" Discussed on Ari Shaffir's Skeptic Tank
"The book. The book. Oh. Yes. You know what I mean figured coke heads. I don't want to do business. You're way ahead of me. So. Dave. Is a libertarian which means he's not Republicans. He's not Democrats. So on the politics side, he's able to stay. Even, keeled isn't. Like one group of he does live in a liberal bubble of new. York. Oh now he's moved outside New York. So he lives in a less liberal bubble I found two. There's a new party like it's a it's a it's like a third and fourth party where it's like. Liberals and conservatives, but they hate like the overboard liberals and conservatives. So they to their anti liberal liberals and anti-conservative Conservatives. Still formulating this idea? Point is that guy should have gone across the street and pissing the park? I think we can all agree on that. I said, we should start the episode in a second. I don't know if there's anything else. I gotTa Tell You would follow day Smith. He's got his own podcast called part of the problem. We discuss politics all the time. I'm going to tell you. You should usual legion all the time he recently lost an election. For president allegiance gang someone else won. It was me and. Follow. THEM ON A. I don't honestly don't follow him on twitter at. Comic Dave Smith don't get off twitter. You guys it's been. It. The viruses in their get off twitter it's a horrible place. And you'd be like Oh you're on there. I'm not I got off in like. June July. Fuck it. Every part of me is well, I built a five hundred, thousand followers I should like cash that or. Nah. It's just gross. So get off twitter he's on there are comedies with I don't know how much is on there, but I would tell everybody listens get off there it's filling with A. Horrible negatively. So here's the deal with this week's this year's. Part of the problem the here's. State of the Union address twenty. Twenty. Too Much Shit happened. Too Much fucking. Shit. Happened you guys. So, what are we supposed to do? We did three hours I'm letting. You know right now we did three fucking hours on this. and. We didn't get anything. No. No. I wouldn't say we didn't get anything. We covered some stuff look at my notes. We covered some stuff. COVID. What he thinks to respond should have been some black lives matter stuff. And a little bit of like the media, and then we just ran out of time it was three hours we had to go to the Legion skanks. So we're like, should we go and take this Zumra quarter that I draw got a new one? fucking everything. It's extra costs. Extra costs extra cost. Joe. Patriarch by the way everybody. Patriotic Dot Com Slash Ari Shapiro. or Patriot Dot com slash skeptic tank otherwise pointed the same place. The point is join up five dollars give a travel blogs. once a month or so And I. Do I mean audio travel blocks I call him plugs. He's a picture and I talked about where that picture was taken. dating sex funded vice what else do on there? I don't know Oh, I know a mail bag. I.
"dave smith" Discussed on Ari Shaffir's Skeptic Tank
"Twenty. So Dave. David. By now common name for Jews and roof you know any. If. You don't know any Jews school upset that's totally fine. You probably didn't come across or maybe you came across when we just didn't know you can blending in. Hiding. Places. Small. Addict spaces crawlspaces. We had a crawlspace when I was growing up like it's not like a basement interest crawlspace. It's like. Downstairs, but it's just like I don't know you know what I mean it's like behind. It's where Jews hide is what I'm trying to say that's the only way to describe it. It's weird. Jewett height. And that was the whole joke. One time I was in Vietnam tiny town. And I was in a bus I joined up with a tour. Wasn't with him and showed up but I was there I wanted to go to this. There was just like. I. Guess Like Floating Floating Force they called it was just like a force in the inner rivers pretty cool. I'll say the name. Like, say names of places but like No. One's going to show doc. Took me I mean twelve hours they got there from coachman. You're not going to dock and you shouldn't. But I was talking to these two German girls and these two I think Canadian or German guys. I, forget now and they were talking about some guy that was weird. Somebody's son kept. Naming, all the states in America and then he was like talking about every time I saw fire just different types of fire engines and he goes I was just weird and then the German goes like well, he was and he goes oh well, I've never never met not person before and we're all like. Yes, you have. Didn't know. Haven't met not their everywhere. good times. Today Dave Smith comes and talks to us about. Really America we've been doing this two, thousand thirteen I found out. I asked him about it every year. We. Go over. Generally Dave is a libertarian which I sort of an eye on. A bleeding heart libertarian. If you had to like name a party I, call it the get off me party. Leave me the fuck alone. Let me do my business. I'm not bothering anybody. So nobody's you bother me. I'm a Kinda guy who's like, why can't I set up solar power in my in my home that I own. Laws. Fuck off. It's my home. Why can't I? Fucking I WANNA put a rainwater collector up there like while you off until the proper, you pay the taxes on the thing on your oven from the proper verification shut off. It's mine. I want to build a fucking waterslide around my house while I gotta get you involved Sam. Anyway the point is he came on to talk about America generally we have one or two things to talk about, and then also in election years has twenty sixteen was now twenty twenty extra stuff to talk about but this here. We've got a few more things to talk about what a year it's been. I read it seems like a lifetime already doesn't it? It. Is, fucking nuts out there. You guys I I'm just I was walking here new. York's five. They call it a war zone of the press. Do not believe that. But. They have these outdoor seating areas. And Mexicans. I, think it's maybe it's being raised. It might be Dominicans I. Don't know I. Don't know the New York Latino the hard worker. Set up where the park cars are. They said of these little. Would built enclosures they set up tables in there in between the sidewalk. And with the cars drive. Past this dude and he's fucking pissing on his girlfriend who some drunk girlfriends go off, make sure nobody's coming and you start down to the fucking pencils. Okay. Do Come on go to the park is right next to the park. And he goes I, wasn't doing fucking neighborhood dude? fucking human. He goes. All right relaxed. I was joking and I'm like. Let's break I'm not sure you were joking and if it was then I'm the fool. Girlfriend would have had been in on it to say a look. Go ahead, I'll look. Because otherwise. WHO'S THE JOKE for? She saying look and then you're pretending knew about to do but not do it or. Other possibility you're fucking animal you're fucking drunk animal drunks. It's just you fucking you few fucking drunks who give all the alcoholics about name handle your shit. Handle your drugs. That's my one message to everyone in the world. Don't do drugs handle your drugs. Do it responsibly, and by responsibly I, mean don't bearish yourself. Getting, sidetracked because his episodes not about that, and it's a fucking long episode. But for real okay. Do Mushrooms. You don't have to tell everybody by the way you know to make it a big fucking deal. Go to the bathroom much monchy come on back. Want. To go do coke go to the bathroom. You guys actually coke heads way ahead of the game. You're never like. You just you go to the bathroom comeback make a few many trips. I mean, why don't you? While you're in the bathroom take a longer nail they all have. Okay. Here's decent compact that shit in there. In one nail and then later in the evening, you know when you're when you're coke wears off and what is it twenty minutes and you like instead of going back to school pick my nose..
"dave smith" Discussed on DocsAndMore
"But somebody information is beyond dispute. Come from the police. Not because we sound but because the Metropolitan Police have now admitted they've had held an internal investigation is called operation. Bruins and the opening loin is that meet the Somebody information on the blacklist follows with Supply Special Branch and Salvi. Festively you go Paul. Solve the British tights You know the dependent equal policing needs of British type. A Spine on union activists some providing information to to big business and and if that was happening anywhere else in the world the mainstream media and the BBC becoming mad about ants open about deceit in spin spotlight on boy by the state and all the rest of it and one of the reasons that we carry on doing these kind of pie in one of the reasons. Why I think Lucy's film selling porn is when you first so people this story. It's almost as if things that happen in this country and it's just quite often British. British colonialism almost invented this kind of stuff and the whirlwind talk to trade unionists in other parts of the world. They completely surprised about it. Whereas in this country people are. That's that's that's I think one of the questions. If that is state at the beginning of the film is what's relationship between the states and capitalism is something that I think I suppose hopefully a public inquiry there is a is one with reveal exactly what those linked swear more. These conversations were between the state and big business and I think in the film as well where we see. Dave being arrested for public odor offensive blocking roads. And I think that's an foundry fascinating of where how does the Lou define public order like Define Odor and when we see a guest particularly now around the environment where we see a big business so resistant to making changes that are going to support order through and we'll have the environment. Bigger questions are being asked around. What's what's more what's more important temporary fixes or the bigger the bigger fixes his first documentary film. Was He easy for you to get funding? Was it quite tricky as a filmmaker? How did you find it yet? I'm so I went with them. City projects in Cape Pirka who produced the film and she was really fantastic working to fundraise. We got funding from the arts maliciously but then from that we got funding from a number smooth trusts and donations from trade unions and individuals wasn't easy to get the funding and move was a learning process as well as the first feature film. It made and when you don't have the film's behind you people and is willing to support always but I think part of the pricing funding fundraising was also so community building and building audiences so one of the things we promised with when people funded Gibson nations that we would allow them to screen the film. So that's helped intensive arranging community screenings. Are you pleased with how the film's tone delve? Yeah I think I suppose I didn't set out as I introduced myself to David. Were my background's in short filmmaking and I wasn't sitting out to make his to conventional commit tree and I think one of the politics behind that is to have multiple voices and not have the traditional narrates. I think because love. It's quite complex. As water on the legal case to try and bring in multiple voices and to raise questions at different points in the film felt inputs in. I personally love the film What I love about is that some is precisely because Lucy is in our aced and not a documentary filmmaker. And I think he's a very obvious because documentary. Filmmaker wouldn't have my that film in anyway shape or form me my favorite scenes ear when George Fuller Person. Lucy's talk about beginning. He's doing the washing up his kitchen. Or there's a bit where paper I've been all Q. And an until combat stuff. It's just it's that stuff that makes his look human rather than just looking like coke in a big machinery. If the only thing we can ever talk about is Is Blacklisting because we're all human beings families and it's that bit though. I think it's got the emotional poll that brings us in and that's why I really think it works question Kobe. Did you see what's next? I'm starting to have conversations with people around unto come police inquiry which is starting to evidence this yea and we'll be hearing evidence next year as well so I met this early stages of working out if I will make about it but I feel committed to the course. This is undercover policing where they actually went undercover in various activists and actually had relationships. It's really wide reaching and the two women that speak in solidarity were two of the women in relationships with undercover police. A poet into police inquiry. And the Dave with the button support group and a family justice campaigns environmental campaigns trade union. So it's it's huge in its skirt which is quite problematic in lots of ways. It was really interesting in. Hurt brings together lots of different experiences. It starts to fifteen. That's right isn't it yet? Centuries a main sets it going in two thousand and fifteen so already it's been a really long process and the thing that I'm most interested in is what public inquiry ass and tries to represent and the problems of public inquiries as well. I'm typically as a state run activity and viewed Dave. What's next well? I'm actually a coal participant in this undercover police. Public Inquiry Lucy's are just been token about some of the undercover place offices was spying on trade unions One of them Is ni-nice went on new. Amy's nightmares mark custody. He was a call using the Siamese unionist. May I went to pick it? Lawrence William went to meetings with a May even rain one of the sites canopy in his In the building industry and years later we found it was actually an undercover police officer and his real name was Gena lived with a woman on new for all of us. What sign told me was already married? So yet that's Talked about is there anything shocking. GonNa Stuffy Sir. Very very shocking. And it's going on in our million because this is the police in the state during this is taxpayer money being spent on that Garner staff. And that's what I found outrageous and as Lucy said these public inquiry has been going on. It was south five years ago. Hasn't heard any evidence yet and fell of years. Baker universities across the country and I recently spoke in class. Go to a group of three hundred students and asked them if any of them had heard of this stuff about undercover police and three hundred two people the hand up with some people. Listen to your podcast of heard it. I don't think the vast majority of the British public I've heard about coal which is well. We can't portion because counts back to this thing before people still think the things are happening in this country and it clearly does. It's it's really important to understand the bigger picture of it and how it operated systemically completely end as someone who was followed on deliver loose and he's very very good friends with Zoey women to ride long-term relationship police officers everyone intermediaries When I talked us is always interested in APP. Tell us your cannot human interest story which is important. I mean it is shocking what happened. It's only about human interest. You miss the big political chat. Which is the facts? The style is systematically doing this not is not rung depot. Still doing it to this guy and they basically spa weigh in on any one. The Bay considered to be in inverted commas domestic extremist and a domestic extremist. You don't have to commit any chrome this. Is this literally folk police if your if your doing stuff which they that the senior however all the political police units finks French interests. Will you know? Intra sued Sir Robin McAlpine than it hits in bow. Fulbe is that is that. Is that the the the British trust on a French Porsche. Uc Day. Thank you very much from. You've been listening to the docks more podcast with lefty Talal if you enjoyed the show review and subscribed the series..
"dave smith" Discussed on DocsAndMore
"Today I'm joined by Lucy Park the director of the documentary film solidarity and USA. Have Dave Smith you features felt Lucy Festival? If I can ask you. Did the film comfortable. How do the film about 'em so I met George Fuller? He's in the film in Two thousand twelve. When I was in a writing group he was putting of and he was writing by experience of being blacklisted ads. And then I went with him to has the parliament to some meetings that were happening and then got to the Butler support group and gradually decided to make a film. Dave can I ask you? How did you first meet Lucy? And when she did approach you where you want. The whole idea of the film will met Lucy when she turned up with Joel. Gibb one of these parliamentary meetings. We ads and also the head coach. We will see an ad Rota justice about once a month for its own and actually from being skeptical. We were over the Mon. Someone was interested in what we're doing. And the case because most of the mainstream media it's completely so you've bypassed occasional bits on the on the Talian in the newspapers but you know it would just be era mayor and if emission was really looking for in probably missing so someone who's interested in doing a film we you know we say come on join US coming Joe and it was great and the film itself. Let me just briefly explain for our listeners. Solidarity. It's about a bunch of people who've been blacklisted mainly from the construction industry and Dave. Can you tell me very briefly? Become what your story is It wouldn't work out when Alexis go. I and I was also very Union member was a union safety net so I raised concerns mass by Stocks Building Salvatore flow in toilets. If I remember one time a young lad fell off a scaffold. Always say you know so. Add Safety Paul and the bike stories the even in the middle of the building boom I just now is the network when it was allowed to work around suddenly odd get Giovanni Beta a couple days or a few weeks I would lose my job. People sort of talks about blackness but it was only a little bit urban myth and name in two thousand and Knowing Government Department Information Commission did ride and found his blackness foil. We still being kept Tony. And because the government department you can apply to get a copy of your follow and my father always six pages. Long Scott Monnaie address. The national insurance number covers a fifteen year period more work. Quite stifling really eight yes I mean it's got the job complained about a special Caesar. Colby job rural complained about young fellow. Fallen off the scaffold and is recorded in the job complained about the oil. It's regarded it and it's basically the big multinational construction firms. Who MANAGES WOULD KEEP TABS? Zonja and then send information was kept on a centralized advice and every time you have to get a job one of the big buildings so it's anywhere in the country the big companies who checked to save your nine on this list and if it was you never got a job or if you're lucky enough to get on the job once they found out you were a sect you which is not very well documented now and even the Companies Doing Lucy when you start to Dell DEEPA. We'll use surprised by what you would discover it. He's thinking back now. No but at the time yes I think so. For example with Joe Jr case which which was the shock for me the fact that he'd been raising gathering signatures for a petition around homelessness and Housing tickly for women. That was shocked to me. The company would use that to keep track on him but Intensive how particularly in the construction industry how much they are working with voice to a med. That is not too much bishop. Now I feel like through learning about the blacklisting case I've I've developed movement understanding of how systems operate but I think also just tive socially how conditioned we are not to speak out and not to complain and I think it's really helped me to understand whether things come from in terms of being surprised about people being blacklisted. I think the extent to which it was an extent to which for example Ian Was employed to keep track of these lists the amount of companies in amount of h People who were invoked that feels to me like still like the surprise that that system can support something that is destroying people's lives. I mean I'm sure. Many listeners will be quite surprised to hear about this because of all all you're doing is by looking off to work. His all fighting for ordinary wrightson human minds. That really the the finger at noise of all of us is the if what we were doing was burning places down organizer so in people. They know you know. There's there's an understanding about why someone might keep tabs on your. What would we would. Just you know. Raising concerns about health and safety or in fact the very first Ngoma follow is about. I'm Pie. Why jeez actually it's from nineteen not to and he says. I was involved in its dispute over several weeks unpaid wages so because we have to remember it's I actually. We've done the work to be. You know that was enough to get nine on the follow and some of the things that paper on the foil for it's just it's just not and irrelevant and I remember one of the followers. He says that the person was saying where an anti Nazi league badge. And it's shown to be a member what he will remain to be. Anti Nazi thing. It's it's the facts the you know. Otherwise accepted be companies more. Not like you. If you're you know. Interrupt their ability to might profit bates. The it's instant death for the intrusion and it's the number of companies that are involved. We're talking about the biggest multinational firms fads all of these companies. Were doing this to me. Towns incredible depth all detail but they kept on individuals. I'm just amazed I mean even thinking about your family's just still amazed. I think lots of people are amazed. But we're so I think learning I guess about how the trade union movements been oppressed through from its initial founding. 's An the fact of the things race around trajan issues Isn't surprising so when you when you look at it in the history of oppression of the left. It's less of a surprise. If I'm honest. Very few of us were surprised. There is a blacklist. What was surprised? Rosie stayed the depth of it. But but since we've been running this campaign loads of stuff has come out for about. Monsanto spun on activists of McDonald spun on activists this stuff even in the newspapers this week about these banks by went on their own staff and so big corporation span on vice disagree with their managerial tactics and a more interrupt their ability to you know might money isn't really something new. I mean you know with that too bad. We capitalism these big corporations at Edsa Mike Money and and and if as a group of workers we're standing up fruit juice with their profit margins than in a get why they're doing a Dunkin. We shouldn't be surprised. I'm shocked at the intrusion outraged but I'm not really surprised that they were doing. I think one thing that I'm Steve. He's in the film. Steve Kennedy took about is feeling the feelings that his family didn't believe him. And the feeling that you'll so call a conspiracy theory and that's where I feel like it's really important that people know about people's experiences because it's evident Eric stand to read it and to see so and I think people have those fears speaking out but when you can see in black and white that this is a reality questions conspiracy. Just get moving on from that as well. Because it's not only just the corporations who've involved and you mentioned a number of other companies have been poked as well accused of spying on their star form or the workforce the police have also been. This is an arm of the state is also been involved in this timeline. If I want to stretch the bit that we're all shocked when you say is sometimes it's very obvious. Waiting INFORMATION COMES FROM. It's from a manager on a building so complained about the two when it's off complained about my anti white. She's outside information kits.
"dave smith" Discussed on DocsAndMore
"The two when it's off complaining about my wages at Saudi of kicks but somebody information is beyond dispute. Come from the police. Not because we sound but because the Metropolitan Police have now made it. They've had held. An internal investigation is called operation brewed. Britain's and the Albanian loin in is that meet the Somebody information on the blacklist follows supply Special Branch. And so we go. Paul solve the British deitz equal policing units of the British style. A spying on union activists provided information to to big business and and if that was happening anywhere else in the world the mainstream media in the BBC will be going mad about talking about deceit spin spotlight on boy by the Steitz and all the rest of it and one of the reasons that we carry on doing this kind of tying span. One of the reasons why I think Lucille so in Poland is when you first so paypal. This story in so much as things that happen in this country and it's just quite often British British. Colonialism almost invented this kind of stuff. And when you talk to try unionists in other parts of the world they completely surprised about it whereas in this country people are. And that's that's that's one of the questions of that is stated at the beginning of the film is what's relationship between the states and capitalism is something that I think I suppose hopefully a public inquiry there is a is one with reveal exactly what those links were conversations were between the state and big business and I think in the film as well where we see. Dave being arrested food public odor offensive blocking roads. And I think that's an foundry fascinating way. How does the law define public order like Define Odor and when we see a guess particularly now around the environment where we see big business so resistant to making changes that are going to support order through an. We'll have the environment the biggest questions being asked around. What's what's more what's more important super temporary fixes or the bigger the bigger fix. This is your first documentary. It's alright was easy for you to get funding. Tricky as a filmmaker. How did you find it yet? I'm so I went with them. City projects in Cape Parker who produced the phone and she was really fantastic working to fundraise. We got funding from the Arts Council maliciously but then from that regard funding number smooth trusts and love donations from trade unions and individuals. So it wasn't easy to get the funding and so two was a learning prices. Well it's the first feature film at eight and I guess when you don't have other films behind you. People aren't as willing to support but I think part of the process of funding fundraising associate community building and building audiences. One of the things we promised with when people funded or nations that we would allow them to screen the film. So that's how intensive arranging community screenings. Are you pleased with Helms turned out? Yeah I think I suppose I didn't set out as I introduced myself to Davis and my grand smooth short filmmaking and I wasn't setting out to make conventional document tree and I think one of the politics behind that is to have multiple voices and not have this traditional innovates. I think because a lot of it's quite complex on the legal case to try and bring in multiple voices and to raise questions at different points in the film folks input season. I personally love the film What I love about way is that is precisely because Lucy's and all I am not a documentary filmmaker and things very obvious because documentary. Filmmaker wouldn't have might've failed me in any way shape or form me my favorite sayings when George Fuller Personal Lucy's talk about beginning. He's doing the washing up these These kitchen Or there's a bit where Paper Barbecue and and and until that stuff. It's just it's that stuff that makes his look human robbed just looking at Coke's in big machinery and if the only thing we can ever talk about is Is is blacklisting human beings families and it's that bit I think the emotional poll brings us in an unnatural. I really think it works funded question for both of you what you need see. What's next I'm starting to have conversations with people around the undercover police inquiry which is starting to evidence this year and we'll be hearing this next year as well so I met this early stages of working out if I will make a film about it but I feel committed to the course this undercover policing where they actually went on to come in various activists and actually had Richard Sherman yet so it's really wide reaching and the two women that speaking solidarity were to women are in relationships within the police to it into a police inquiry and the Dave with the Butler support group family justice campaigns environmental campaigns trade union. So it's it's huge in it skirt which is quite problematic. Not Waste but it was really interesting in hoping together. Lots of different experiences. It starting to doesn't fifteen. That's right. Isn't it yet? Centuries a million sets it going two thousand fifteen so already. It's been a really long process in the thing that I'm kind of most interested in a moment is a public inquiry ass and tries to represent and the problems of public inquiries as well and typically as a state run activity and viewed Dave. What's next well? I'm actually a call participant in this undercover police public inquiry loose. Who's just been token about some of the undercover? Police officers was own. Trade Unions One of them is nine. He went on new mall custody. He was a cop and so It was in the same union as me. I went to pick with him. I went to meetings with a May even rain. One of the safety canopy and is in ministry and years later we found who's actually an undercover police officer and his real name was Mop Jenner and he lived a woman on new for us. What Simon told me was already married. So yeah that's You know we talked about. Is there anything shocking KONTA stuff? He's very very shocking. And it's going on nine because this is the police and appreciate during. This is taxpayers money being spent on that GONNA staff. And that's what I find outrageous an an as Lucy said these public inquiry has been going on. It was five years ago and it hasn't heard any evidence yet and fellow of us and our speaker universities across the country And I've recently spoke in Glasgow to a group of free hundred students and asked them if any of them had heard of this stuff about undercover police and at three hundred two people the hand up so so some people listen to your protocol. Smart. I've heard it. I don't think the vast majority of the British public I've heard about which is well. We can't push them because comes back to this thing before people still think that things are happening this country and it clearly does. It's important to understand the big picture of it and how it operated systemically completely end as someone who was followed on delays and. He's very very good friends with a lot of the women ride long-term relationship licenses for the police officers. Everyone in the media is when I talked to. Us is always interested in a tell us your human interest story which is important. I mean it is shocking. What happened but if it's only about human interest you miss the big political page. Which is the facts of the study is systematically doing this not is not Rome. This still doing it to this guy and they basically spa in on anyone. They consider to be in inverted commas domestic extremists and optimize extremely. She doesn't have to commit any chrome. This is this lynch reform police. If you're if you're doing stuff which the duct the senior however all of you know the the political police. Units thinks is a frick Interests will you know interest to do so Robin Mcalpine? It's in Balfour Beatty. Is that is that? Is that the. The brain trusts the on furniture possible day. Thank you very much from purity. You've been listening to the DACHSHUND. More podcast with lefty dwelt if you enjoyed the show review and subscribe.
The Zimbabwean Mastermind: Paul Le Roux
"In early two thousand nine thirty. Six Year Old Paul Roux was just beginning to branch out from pharmaceuticals into into more ambitious criminal. Ventures larue was high on his own power but he was also getting paranoid. That paranoia was making him distrust. Trust even is most seasoned employees like Call Center Manager Moran Oz as had no idea that he'd somehow run afoul of Larue. In fact all signs pointed to Larue liking him after ause arrived in Manila larue drove him out to the coast in his own. BMW AM W on the way they stopped at McDonald's for breakfast. Oz knew that larue was a rich man but he wasn't surprised by the breakfast choice. In in fact is was more surprised that larue actually treated him usually win. Larousse employees met him at restaurants he would only order food for himself so their next stop was the Subic Bay Yacht Club where larue paid in advance for houses hotel room. Oz would stay here overnight tonight and then meet the other employees as he headed out to the island of Seibu. The next morning is entered his hotel room that afternoon feeling buoyant. Not only was his boss having him oversee and expansion of his company are limited but he was finally treating is like a peer paying for his food in high end lodging of course as was wrong the entire story about building an Rx limited call center in Sibu had been in a trap now as was in the open ocean with a rifle pointed at him. After a few seconds of gunfire fire. Oz took a breath of relief. He wasn't hit a voice from ondeck shouted down at him. That was to frighten off the sharks. Don't think think I missed the next time will be for you. Dave Smith the talkative British man finally relaid Larousse orders from the satellite phone. When he told is confess and will kill you? Keep denying it and will wound you and leave you to the sharks. Your choice is wracked his brain. What could he possibly need to confess to? He insisted that he done nothing wrong. He hadn't stolen Dolan from the company he would never do anything without Larousse permission. Smith said something into the satellite phone Struggled to stay afloat while larue rude determined his fate after a few more tense moments. One of the muscular men climbed down the yachts ladder. And pulled is back on board is never knew what Larue said on the other end of that phone. Perhaps he only meant to scare him that day or perhaps as had managed managed to talk his way into a stay of execution when Smith brought is back to Subic Bay Yacht club he left him with one final warning. He said we are like an octopus. We have tentacles all over the world. You need to understand that we can reach you everywhere aware. Even in Israel you are not safe anywhere. The following day larue picked up is to bring him back to Manila as got into the car hesitantly. He didn't know what to expect from his volatile boss but his ride with Larue was his only way back home to Israel Summoned the courage to ask why he'd been taken hostage and tortured larue shrugged. He claimed to know nothing about the incident but he also showed no signs of surprise or concern. Instead he told is that he couldn't be held responsible for what is partners might do he said you. Don't want to deal with these guys. They will find you do whatever they say this. This was emblematic of how larue like to handle as business. He rarely solved problems personally. Preferring to issue commands from his phone or laptop up he controlled the action from afar like he was playing a video game like he was God larue also like to use mixed signals and subterfuge fused to keep his employees off balance. No single person ever knew how their role fit into the larger operation and they never knew how larue through really felt about them lose. Employees were doing a wide variety of work all over the world from fielding customer service calls in Israel L. Transporting gold in the Congo to scouting real estate in the Philippines to assembling a militia in Somalia but despite their different skill assets. They all had similar impressions of their mysterious boss. One of Larousse. fixers tim them back as best described Larue as a constant threatening threatening presence he said it was almost like the guy never slept and you never knew which personality you get on the other end when he called he never said who he was but you knew it was him sometimes calm and other times irate and most of the time you never even knew why when Larousse employees finally met him. They didn't know what to expect because there were no photos of him on the Internet but the first thing they noticed was his size is he was white about six feet tall with an enormous girth. The source of Laura's girth wasn't a mystery. He was known to favour fast. Food food like Domino's McDonalds at his desk rather than going out to eat a steak in most aspects of life he prioritized efficiency over quality. He usually dressed in a T.. Shirt cargo shorts and flip flops. The effect was disarming. One employee said nobody has ever thought the the first time they met him that he runs global criminal Empire Larousse accommodation's reflected that as well. He owned a series of high. End condos in Manila Hilla. But all of them were mostly unfurnished aside from couch bid and television but they ran up unusually high electricity bills. That's that's because of course he was constantly running fleets of servers. We're larue was casual about his home and clothing he. He was obsessive about his computer setup. He worked off an ancient laptop operating Microsoft software over ten years. Old sounds announce counter intuitive but he preferred this setup because he was able to fully encrypt the entire hard drive the moment he closed the lid of the laptop laptop the contents would be unreachable by any outsider. Programming and encryption had preoccupied larue since his youth in fact act computers were his. I love Paul was born on December. Twenty Fourth Nineteen Seventy two in Bulawayo Rhodesia Asia today known as Zimbabwe as a child a relative said that larue quote was fought over. Everyone wanted him. Our grandparents grandparents worship the ground. He walked on when he was a teenager. Larousse family moved to South Africa in search of better education larue resented and having to learn Afrikaans. The local language spoken in school. He felt superior to his classmates referring to them as halfwits and and morons his elevation came in his first computer. As soon as Laura realized he could build entire worlds in code worlds were governed by his rules he was hooked. One of Larousse Cousins Remembers Teenage Larue as quote completely antisocial Dole. Every time we went there he was always hold up in his room. I remember going in and seeing lines and lines of numbers on the screen and it didn't take Kim long at all to figure out how coating could start bringing in money illegally of course in nineteen eighty nine. The police leased showed up at Laura's Johannesburg home and arrested the sixteen year old for selling pornography in these early days before the Internet it appeared heared larue had revolutionized pornography distribution by going digital but the specifics to his operation. Remain Murky to this day. What we do know for sure was that Paul's parents were appalled but he himself just laughed? When Larue retold this story with with a plumbing pride he would recall how silly the entire situation seemed to him? Everyone would have praised him if he'd found a new method of selling books or Lennon's all this fuss just because his commodity was porn chip as long as Larue was making money. He didn't care what he was selling and even as a teenager he didn't care about breaking the law he didn't care about exploiting others later on that instinct would have disastrous stress results. Not just for larue himself. But also for his employees and the entire country of the United States
Packers vs. Patriots Preview: Who has the edge?
"Doing you? Right. That is the biggest game of the year LSU coming out number three in the right game in one. And that's all great. But if they don't win Saturday. It means nothing we know that as crimson tide has won the last seven over LSU. So this week is a big game. If they lose to Alabama. There's no way a to lock LSU tiger team in the college playoff. So it's going to be a big game this Saturday, and they need to pull this off. Rouge the fans they are waiting for this this game all season. Out of the lights and death valley and one of the toughest places to play. Does that lets you have enough offense to keep up? That's my question. That that's a big question. Joe borough. The last two outings has been so if you wanna say, but the biggest thing that I think that they can't do is they need to pound the ball. They're running the ball at sixty one percent and thirty one percent passing. And this year's Alabama's defense isn't as style as they usually are upfront. So it's not the people Nick Sabin defense that you're used to seeing. But I think they compound that ball with with Lear if they can just pounded away ship it away. It's going to be a physical matchup defensively. But if they can control the off line in those trenches in those three four, you know, you know, seven yard run here. And there that might open up from passing yards for Joe boroughs that, you know, just think Jefferson down a streak or oppose corner. Outer front. One. Ball will be key on offense versus the tide every team in the country of one loss or LSU fans on Saturday because that if LSU wins that throws everything into chaos, and that opens it up for a whole bunch of teams. Yeah. That that really does that puts Georgia out of it because I still see Alabama. Here with one loss, but that's shake up the whole college playoff. It depends on what Notre Dame will do. Clemson. I think Clinton will probably finish out the season undefeated as well. So it'll it'll shake up things but LSU would elite punch they're kicking in the college playoff. That's that's thought we care about. I love coach when he was out here coaching USC here in Los Angeles. He was the defensive line coach Pete Carroll years and mad. I used to interview him once a week. I understood about half of what he said would that Cajun accent? So I just I he could have been saying Dave Smith is a jackass now would have been nodding my head saying, yes, sir. I agree with you. I love coach. Oh, he's my favorite person in college football. Yeah. He's he's one of the great ones when I got down the bed ruse, I'm from Chicago. So it was a total coaches shocking that an accident is very hard. Transcribing interviews is not fun at times in the news. But he's a great guy. Great motivator. He's always out in the community. He does radio show told me your, Vince. So that's what I like about him. He's a player coach and coach among the people you can walk up to him and just say, hi and you'll have a conversation with yourself. He wanted to go with in college football. He told me once I don't have an accent. You do that's what he said to me. Yeah. That sounds like, oh, he's he's he's he has some great joke. He will snap back at you. What would what some great joke? So be prepared to come with me when you felt down. But when they lost the Troy last year, there weren't even run them out of town. They were gonna fire him. Now. Look at him top three in the country and a chance for a national championship. Yeah. It's been a total one eighty was on a hot seat. Even in the beginning of the year. Don't want expecting difficult seventy one and everybody was saying, hey, if he doesn't do it this year, then you know, we need to move on. But again, he believes in those fifteen Bettine believed that themselves, and you know, as far as the SEC, we know it's Alabama Georgia. Everyone was county out and for them to have this excess in bringing back the prominence of the Tigers. Is it's been a great atmosphere van Roos right now you look at the quarterback in Alabama. You know, it's almost unfair. Nick saban's usually has a game manager at Alabama. Now, he's got a superstar quarterback. They're scoring fifty and sixty points a game to go along with all those athletes and the accuracy that the kid is incredible he special, but but Aaron he hasn't faced adversity yet. So let's see if he gets behind a little bit or if things aren't going well against LSU on Saturday. That's that's the key. He hasn't even played fourth quarter yet. That was. Is that he hasn't played a fourth quarter. So if they can get some pressure on we know they're missing Devon white Devon white. But the first half of the biggest thing is forcing pressure fourth mistake. He has to make a turnover you gotta get moving them out of pocket. Maybe get him comfortable LSU LSU. To figure out a way to out. So. Defense needs to find a way that that's what it comes down to find a way crying it out. It's going to be a bad on that
Mexico rotate again and suffer defeat vs. Denmark before World Cup
"More again did some good work and that's great can you believe judy green with the first school history dark on the call that's right before this they've been outscored ten nil in a three meetings against france and this'll be the place that everyone will remember from this game and scary for both teams matt asia and france's olivier giroux go for the ball they clash head and there was blood everywhere it looked like an old school wwe match fortunately for both they would walk off us held the lead for a while but then the seventy eight th minute france gets it ended a one one draw france moves onto the world cup belts base australia next saturday team usa can only wait for another four years speaking of two teams headed to russia another friendly here between denmark and mexico seventy first minute christian erickson makes the pass to use poulsen dodgers defenders and then defender t one more time denmark takes a one nothing lead by the way this the forty eight different lineup on the field for mexico under one carlos who sorry on seventy third minute same score erickson makes a great ron gets behind the defenders and to just ball and denmark goes on to win it to'set they will face peru on june sixteenth mexico will face germany on june seventeenth sorta come here on is one of the biggest bites of the year and it's just hours away before terence crawford and jeff horn battle for the wbo welterweight title everything you need to know before the to take the ring in vegas later tonight on espn plus also ahead.
NBA Finals: Draymond Green pleased that Tristan Thompson avoided suspension
"The place for the capitals in dc gained three the stanley cup final camps and golden knights series tied at one nba finals tristan thompson of the cast says there no surprises with golden state instigator draymond green they were giada jaw at the end of game one doesn't really bother me at all himself look crazy but that's what he does that's what he brings to this team that's his that's what makes it valuable to the war in terms of bringing that toughness in grit so i don't blame them ever team is a guy like that warriors play thompson questionable with a sprained ankle game tomorrow night on abc can hear it on espn radio packers linebacker clay matthews broke his nose in a charity softball game wind drive off the face he says he'll be fine the warriors win game one of the nba finals how will the cavs respond in game two you find out tomorrow at seven eastern on espn radio and on abc presented by.
"dave smith" Discussed on Legion of Skanks Podcast
"Well well well dave go nowhere smith davey long story no dip acutest crowd spiff i have to pack a suitcase row vacation laid acute toby of my shirts and mention monkey tell me if my office makes sense i don't like the insults on that last one felt specific smith should ask special not that good way overrated you deuce directed us director heard currently tonight really missing the eight ball dave smith texted you week ago nice if you got back to me i was kinda worried about you smith you political last comedian talking about republican democrat ain't choosing the side somewhere hey can i stay over place man i'm broken hungry q describing todd i'm broken hungry let's continue people over tell me about girlfriends ugly also girlfriend real i saw that movie the mask once and i feel like she got a big of the power sox how great it'd be touch your face to shit on you you stupid face oh there it is that part is i missed the part about him being blind just jumped in at the end the round that much when he was blind pay credit cancer and diabetes they are no he wouldn't have gone hetty been able to reach his eyeballs with the eyedropper they gave him i'll tell you what god's crews james crisis lewis it was his left arm show some respect when i when i said i was in montreal and i saw donnell rawlings it was right after todd passed away ago did you hear about todd he's like yeah heard i go at sucks mega does he really upset he's like i don't know he goes that nigga was me but he had site.
"dave smith" Discussed on Legion of Skanks Podcast
"Jay goes fistfight i you go sort of a bitch i'm an honest man my right though this ponytail j j docusign when i first met you it was for sure pony i'm putting my arm in a compression chamber and i'm gonna lose all feeling in it let's go let's do this i would i would not want the peace yeah yeah yeah sure never met him but last year todd was always like that thing where he'd like you like walk into a club and he was like wow you hear you suck like you shouldn't be our last time i saw him he was like he he had gone blind and he's still had the arm had a cane to us mel the smell is act as he walked in he was blind still had the one arm and is holding a cane with his good arm it was the saddest thing ever and i went and you know he had been like in the hospital for a while and i went over i was like hey todd how are you man and he goes who's that and i was like it's dave and he goes dave smith you stink and i just remember being like i still keep it out corey s mother fucker joke you she over you're going down a staircase over here saddest and most the door able thing like he was just committing to it on the way i well if it is it dave smith you bitch ass motherfucker don't know how to be funny ever since he left indy.
Marcus Morris of Boston Celtics -- I'm 'probably the best guy' defending LeBron James, outside of Kawhi Leonard
"Guys look forward to basketball soundbites at practice you do but i wish they were actually planning as a basketball looks like there was some some hammering there i mean noone dribbles the ball that fast so i i think that there was someone with a nice tool kit there little hammer nail apparently there's some work to be done there and the practice facility so it's good to see the multifaceted celtics playing a little basketball but also saying you know what i don't like the way this picture this picture right here this is not working out rarely well all that up for me give me your level to level there go a little basketball in practice did you see chris forsberg story on espn dot com that he posted today and chris will be joining us later right here on dickerson hood marcus morris is telling everyone that except for coli leonard he's the best person in the nba to defend lebron james that's true no but i appreciate him saying that though i appreciate him saying you know why because someone's gotta say something right if you feel strongly that you're going to have the lion's share of the time taking on lebron james defensively then then go ahead then feel that way but here's the thing once you say that you you're not gonna stop lebron james not even gonna slow down lebron james but you have to make it very difficult for.
Minnesota Timberwolves' Derrick Rose motivated to show doubters he can still play at high level
"You're listening to the best of gold again we go on espn radio and the espn at my goal with his are about to travel across the globe delighted have chris camp equal moran of fowler of course part of trump the rothenberg once trendy have up this chris derek rose back in the league back with the minnesota timberwolves or with some simple walls that reignites him with his former head coach tom pivotal which with him in chicago is also going to be with jimmy butler who is out for a while and taj gibson rose may debut as early as thursday night when minnesota place host the boston the only thing missing now is the opportunity rose told reporters in minnesota on thursday yet i was last night sorry is he did not play last night greysuited up talking to tips he sounds easy given the opportunities wants all about learning the guys and fitting in at the right time so what literally should we expect from deir grows at this world anal lee you look at dirt rose last couple of years have been ruffalo me was in new york two years ago things didn't work out he had a leave of absence he went a wall and it was the situation where he knew the fresh start thought that was going to happen in cleveland but i thought the cleveland cavaliers just expected too much alvin with it missing the first part in a season they they were asking dared roles to be something that he's not he's not a spotup shooter in that's piling which have to be in the backcourt because the broad is going to be ball dominant cleveland so he didn't finish package them in a trade utah waived him and it just hasn't worked out but now he's got an opportunity to be a part of a playoff contender he's gonna be looked at a somebody could federally be a bench score in the backcourt opposite of jamal crawford so that's what you're looking for and if anybody can squeeze the last little bit of basketball out of dirt rose here's tom through what well that's that's the question is i mean what what basketball does he have left because the obviously are the physical limitations because he's always been a.
"dave smith" Discussed on WLOB
"Mm and we are back then coming up but dave smith from rockville is on the line we're going to chat with him about fire safety month coming up in october out but before we do that i want one more note about the bees real i want to mention uh a quick note about bees honey bees are not be killed no zid that we'd they've bush a crisis of the last few years the bottom line bottom line is i don't kill the bees on my property rhino how to do it uh but that you know there are people who are lergy to beef and i'm not i've been stung and it's not a big deal and i and i'm not and i'm not afraid of beef yeah i'm sitting at an outside barbecue party and the bees come around because they're hungry and every two hours a day it's it's bay and they start swiping ataman that's a good way of getting stung if you don't pay any attention to a obey they're not gonna bother you you know and i just i simply don't pay attention to them but again if you're a have a fear of bees or if you're allergic or if people who come to your property you're allergic or you're worried about that possibility because beacon kill person dash definitely thick anyway pay so the bottom line is i leave malone uh i think they are good for the garden i think they're good for the greenery you know they do a lot of pollinating and so i think beazer a good thing but we you know we all have to make our our choices and but when you go to eliminate these make sure you're not eliminating honeybees okay absolutely or you have the bees removed you can actually have them removed okay if you are allergic you can have a mccall the beekeeper all the beekeeper and now do you have a ton of that that i kinda deal or anything that it that that that that that that that that it's time now for what we promised you all along which is an interview that we're gonna have with dave smith from rockfall insulation hey dave how you doing push the button oh i got a push area go i'm so sorry do that were time hello dave yes my dave how you doing got it i forgot to push the.