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"Richard, your your connections just a little hard, I think probably because you're driving. But But thanks for sharing your comment. Cheers does come up a lot for as as being drawing for people on rewatch. Victor writes. What about Beverly Hills Ninja the way they had Chris Rock's character running around after a chicken and how far Lee's character refers to him as boy and David writes Dukes of Hazzard. It's so racist Now, when I was a kid, I thought nothing of it and Carrie writes, obviously all in the family made my job dropped. When I saw an episode recently, even the theme song I used to love made me cringe. Many Looney Tunes are racist and sexist. I finally got my 11 year old son to watch. My fair lady in the ending is horrible messages about women's roles. But I do try to use these as opportunities to talk him about these situations. Give them some context, discuss how would make him feel how he would react if he thinks parts of the story are good or bad. What characters could do? Differently or better. Okay, So what I want to know right now, Dave Shilling is what holds up for you. What's a show or a movie that holds up for you in a surprising way? This is a wonderful question, because we could talk about things that are good and positive. It's great. I really love the show news radio. It was on NBC. You got bounced around the schedule quite a bit, but I always thought it was a better written better acted. Show that Seinfeld, which was the big hit of that era, It's a multi ethnic cast. It's a show that even though there is an office romance, it is kind of dealt with. In a very mature way. The women are not seen as prizes or stare their own characters. Um, it zat Joe Rogan. So there's that If you're Joe Rogan fad, you'll be excited by that. If you're not, maybe that's the part that makes you cringe. But I always felt like that was The platonic ideal. The workplace sitcom is that the gender roles felt considered and smart. Another thing that I think holds up really well is is all of the works of Albert Brooks. We talked about what he Alan earlier on the show and how his movies are so clearly expressions of his pathologies and his the behavior that we now see is inappropriate is projected in these in these movies. Wonderful thing about Albert Brooks is that he was playing with a lot of the same kind of stereotypes of the neurotic yuppie, but he did it in such a way that it was satirical that he was the villain of most of his films. If it's Lost in America or real life or modern romance or the muse. All of these movies defending your life, probably the least satirical one. But the one everybody loves the most. He is this character. In these movies that you kind of don't like because he personifies a lot of the worst traits of that part of history. And I think when you confined Material, especially comedy that is reflecting upon itself or upon the world that it lived in. You're going to get things that are going to hold up better. In something like there's something about Mary, which has no concept of itself doesn't understand its role in society and isn't really lampooning anything other than People of different races or women or people with different abilities like that is what I look. For now, In things that hold up is a sense of satire or a sense of You know, self reflection. Blazing Saddles to me is a perfect film as a black person in America. I think it's one of the greatest pieces of art about racism ever made. On Richard Pryor. If you don't know Richard Pryor did quite a bit of work on that screenplay. And like, I just think it's a perfect piece of filmmaking, and I will always go back to that because it was addressing race. In the right way at that time. Again. Dave Shilling is co host of Galaxy Brains. And Constance Grady is a culture writer at box and you're listening to forum. I mean, a Kim. So causes Grady what has held up for you? One of the things that's been really exciting for me about this period where we are having all these conversations, re evaluating. The very recent past has been getting to rediscover pieces of pop culture that kind of got ignored in their time. So my pick is Jennifer's body from 2009, which was kind of a flop when it first came out and kind of considered a bomb. It was the screenplay was by Diablo Cody. It was her first film after Juno one. The Oscar, and there was like a big backlash against her at the time as being a sort of Ah tried hard, hipster person on and it stars Megan Fox and Amanda Sife E. There is also a huge backlash against Megan Fox. At the time, which I think looking back, we can sort of See is being part of that particular style of early aughts misogyny where every woman who was Perhaps sexualized in some way was found to be doing it wrong and was somehow failing Feminism personally, Um, but Jennifer's body actually really, really holds up. There was this whole trend of re examining it around. It's 10 Year anniversary a couple years ago, and one of the things that people have pointed out about it is Viewers at the time were reading it as or reviewing the film, as though the expected audience was a straight guy. They were saying, OK, this is a sex horror film. It's about Megan Fox being sexy, and she's going to kiss Amanda Sife free on on that level. It kind of feels is a movie, right? It's not very sexy. Also not very scary, but once you take be default, you are as a woman or a girl. You can read it as a rape, revenge thriller, and on that level, it's fantastic. So the premise is that Megan Fox's character, Jennifer Gets abducted basically by the members of this indie band. One of them is played by Adam Brody. Who, of course, was Seth Cohen on the O. C. So one of the people of it nice guys of pop culture on day Take her off into the woods and something serious happens. But you don't find out for most of movie and then when she comes back She's a monster who takes boys out aside and killed them. And it sort of becomes this whole metaphor for the problem of men sacrificing women's bodies on the altar of their own professional ambition and how women have to navigate this toxic atmosphere that has been created and Really the central relationship in it is between Megan Fox and Amanda Sife read. The guys are kind of disposable, so it becomes about their sort of fraught friendship and the ways they resent each other in the ways they love each other. It's a very good film about being a teenage girl. But because in 2009, we didn't think about teenage girls points of view when we evaluated films that kind of got ignored for a long time. It's been really cool to see that shift happening Well, this is no rights show that holds up living single, the hilarious 90 sitcom with an all black cast that actually inspired friends, which hasn't held up so well in many ways. And then this listener, writes, I think it's a big problem with the American psyche in general, that wrong. Things aren't wrong until all your family, friends, neighbors and society at large. Agree they're wrong. I love King of the hill. But as a black woman, I know that hanging Dale on that whole crew would have been leading the charge of the capital on January 6th..

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"dave shilling" Discussed on KQED Radio

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07:49 min | 4 months ago

"dave shilling" Discussed on KQED Radio

"Are some other common issues that you find in shows that just really make them sour as they did for Constance Grady? I think that one of the most common problems with entertainment from the last 50 years, I guess is the gender dynamic the way in which women Treated as possessions or prices. I mean, that's why I went to film school, actually San Francisco State University and I Was always told, like there has to be some sort of prize for the character is reminding classes like you have to be getting the girl and that's always implying that the male character is the Engine of the storytelling that the male character is the one that you are identifying with, and the female lead is really just there to be won at the end, and I think that's true of a lot of entertainment from the eighties that I grew up with or the nineties as well. Um, Revenge of the nerds is a great example of a film that seemed pretty quaint and charming and cute in an underdog story that makes everybody feel wonderful. But there is that infamous scene where the lead character Robert Charities, character dupes of the female lead into having sex with him. She thinks he is her boyfriend. And that is not the case. He has pretending, And then he takes his helmet off. It's like I guess what? It's not your boyfriend. It's me that is a violation of someone's consent. We all thought that was so cute. And like, oh, good for him. He got to achieve something that he otherwise wouldn't have. We're looking at the world through his perspective, not to hurt. How does it feel to be duped like that? It wouldn't actually feel good. But the movie makes it seem like this was a fairy tale opportunity for her when it would not be in real life, and we have actually quite a few listeners who've commented on assault the way that it was treated so casually, Clare writes, greases summer love and song did she put up a fight? Misogyny and, Yeah, just sexism engender. This is no rights. Maybe it's too obvious. But Manhattan I used to love early Woody Allen films and high school was kind of a badge of intelligence. If you knew the films I remember loving Mariel Hemingway in Manhattan weirdly, and this is embarrassing to admit wishing I could be like her in what seemed to me then has sophisticated New York City milieu getting the attention of someone like Woody Allen. It is painful to watch. Now let me go to call the Roxanne and Hollister. Hi, Roxanne. What is something that you found really cringe worthy these days? So I remember that Jean Martin Rose shows, so I remember Watch. He knows like with family and we just thought they were so funny. We were just We would just be in tears Lafayette and my husband, my husband now he also remembers that and we could just kind of a fun time as though we had an opportunity to order some old like CDs on them, and we We watched them and we on Lee could get through like half of one because it was so bad, And I think that the point that somebody made earlier about the way that women are talked about. That was the biggest thing that was so cringe worthy. And then the other thing was a lot of jokes about alcoholism, Lot of smoking disability, and he just it was It was really bad, and I just couldn't get through it. Roxanne. Thanks. I mean, Constance Grady. You have written quite a bit actually about our realizations now, just how misogynistic A lot of stuff was from the eighties and nineties and even the early aughts. Yeah. Yeah, It's interesting because these things they're so recent. I think we're kind of use culturally to being like, Oh, well, the fifties with bad, but after that, we kind of got better. Um, and it's been a little jarring for a lot of people. I think to start to look back, most recently with things like the framing Britney Spears documentary that had a lot of people rethinking the way we talked about famous women during the aughts and just realizing We kind of thought. I think a lot of people that you know we'd fixed everything that the bigotry and racism in the sexism and the homophobia was all gone, And in fact, it really was not on. I think it's kind of important to keep having those conversations and recognizing that it was not gone when we thought it was before, So maybe that's our cue that it's also not gone now, and it's something that we still need to keep pushing back against. Or reader writes. I love the movie. My Fair Lady is a child. So when it popped up as an offering recently, I watched it. I was a bit shocked at the male dominated message that it sends analyzes happiness with the outcome. Ouch and Andrea tweets romancing the stone it still a fun romcom with great scenery. But now the racism, mostly from Danny DeVito's character. Is just too hard to take. Do you feel like have you thought about what has made these issues the ones that make these so hard to hold up consistent, like what was happening in the industry. I think it was. It was just a lack of empathy across the board. I think empathy from the people behind the camera is what's going to make The films and television shows more palatable for a modern audience and empathy wasn't there because the creators were by and large white males. And white males are responsible for a lot of wonderful art. I'm not going to pretend like I don't very much enjoy watching Star Wars. Um, but That's just a fact. It's just a fact of the industry that if you look at the demographics of who was making movies if its directors if its editors if it's screenwriters, if its producers it Z significantly more mail Then, um, it is today It's still not even close to where it should be. Here is an example. So The movie that we're talking about this week on my podcast galaxy Brains is crew. Ella. It seems on the surface to be this very female oriented female gaze story about empowerment and growing up and all of that stuff directed by a man, a white man, Craig Gillespie. Nothing wrong with the fact that he directed it. But you're not going to get the cultural sensitivities you might otherwise get if you if you don't have someone who is a part of that world to say this is what it's really like. This is what it's really like to be a black person in America. This is what it's really like to be an Asian person in America. This is what it's really like to be queer in America. If you don't have that you're not going to have the natural empathy required to make something that has respect and emotional residents. In reality, you're just going to end up with caricatures, which is what we had. In the eighties and nineties in early two thousands with movies like Soul Man Where C. Thomas Howell paints his face to pretend to be black to get into Harvard. Or you're gonna get Indiana Jones, the Temple of Doom where Indiana Jones is fighting South Asian people, Indian people, I am just the caricature of that is just really, really terrible. We're talking with Dave Shilling and Constance Grady about our favorite movies and TV shows that just haven't aged Well, we want to hear yours at 8667336786. You can email us Forum a cake, sweetie dot org's Or Get in touch on Twitter or Facebook at KQED Forum more after the break. I need a camera..

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08:09 min | 4 months ago

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Behold your someone's wife and you belong to here. I loved The sound of music as a little kid, the songs the story, But when I was playing it for my daughter's recently the gender dynamics and this line from a song being sung to 16 year old Liza will That marriage will mean she belongs to a man was one of many things that got to me. I know the movie was made a long time ago. But it made me wonder. Has this happened to you? You we watched a movie you once loved even from just a few years ago. And there were moments that made you cringe were reflecting this hour on films and TV shows that don't quite stack up to today's social norms. So tell us what's lost its charm for you. You can call us at 86673367868667336786. You can get in touch on Twitter or Facebook. Or tell us on email at forum and kqed dot organ. Let me tell you who is joining us. Constance Grady is a culture writer at box. Constance Grady. Thanks so much for being on Thanks so much for having me. Also, Dave Shilling is with us co host of Galaxy Brains a podcast where movies TV and overthinking collide, Dave Shilling. Thanks for training. This is well. Always a pleasure. And thank you for laughing about the title of the show. Or the tagline is very silly. So I mean, you could almost describe public radio that way way to describe a lot of stuff that way, But our our show is special. Yeah, I'm sure so Well, let me start with you, Dave Shilling like what? Filmore Show has not held up for you. Well, this is going to be going pretty far back and something that I'm sure no one is watching right now. And you shouldn't is a police academy franchise. Other seven police Academy movies, four of them star Steve Gutenberg. You might remember from three men and a baby, one of the biggest stars of the eighties Steve Gutenberg and kind of not around anymore, but those movies were Just enchanting to me as a child. I love them. I thought they were so mad, Captain silly but watching them too Damn. Watch them with my girlfriend. I would say probably two or three months into the pandemic last year. And she said, I can't watch this. This is so offensive. It's so homophobia. It's so racially insensitive. It's so xenophobic and and and silly on offensive the We never finished even the first one. I had this grand player to make her watch all seven and she said No. You know what? I'm good. Thank you so much. What about for you? Constance? Grady, what has not held up for you? But my pick has sort of held up and not held up in very weird ways. My pick is the TV show misfits which I think was never a huge hit in the U. S. But it wasn't the U. K in beat early late, Aughts early Tensy started and I think, 2009 it was this very a reverend show about a bunch of juvenile delinquent who It's struck by lightning while they're doing their court, ordered community service and end up with really terrible superpowers on Guy wanted to re watch it during quarantine because I felt like watching people act very blase and casual about big, apocalyptic things would just be really comforting for me under those circumstances, But what I had for gotten was this was a show that was really into that, like Leave off ironic homophobia thing where you know you say an offensive gay joke. And ostensibly, the joke is like, Oh, this character is not enlightened, but really, The joke is they're getting to say this kind of offensive stuff. It was just so jarring to me to realize how much that had flown by and hadn't really bothered me. The first time I watched it, which was really not that long ago, right? This was just like 10 11 years ago on debt. Somehow that humor had aged so badly and because it's so central to the core of this show that thinks of itself is being really irreverent, and that's like the charm of it. It sort of put a little bit of a sour cast on the whole thing for me, even though there's a lot about the show that I still enjoy. Yeah, in both you and Dave Shilling have have highlighted homophobia is one of the common issues that we're seeing in programs not holding up and Dave Shilling. You were also just talking about the Racial insensitivity of it..

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06:42 min | 4 months ago

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"It's a podcast. We're asking, you are listed. Just tell us if there is an old TV show or a film that's lost its charm for you that you loved as a kid and just cannot watch today. Also, what movie you're serious has stood the test of time. You can tell us that two at 86673367868667336786 email us pharma kqed dot org's or post them on Twitter or Facebook. Barbara in San Francisco. Join us Hello. My first one, of course, is gone with the wind, which was released in 1939. It's totally cringeworthy nowadays. There's another thing that was another medium. Radio, The Lone Ranger, his his sidekick with named Toronto. Native American Tato means, stupid in Spanish. So that was a down putting down of the Native Americans. The third O. The most cringe worthy. I have a VCR of Mel Brooks blazing saddles. The male treatment of black people in that is so bad. If I had the player to play it any longer, I wouldn't watch it at all. Well, Barbara three examples of cringeworthy productions. Yeah, thanks for sharing those, And, you know, actually, I have another collar. It looks like on the line. Who might who might want to push back a little on your blazing saddles assessment? Let's go toe Andrew in Berkeley. Hi, Andrew. Goodness, Yes, I'd like to make a pitch for blazing saddles for holding up well after 50 years, almost it's if you look, it's one stereotype after another. But you need to look at why the film is playing with the stereotypes that the ridicule is really directed at the bigots in the film and bigotry that's the joke is on them. That's not the stereotypes or not presented. To be true representation of anybody or any group. The idea is the problems that they're created in the film are because of the bigotry and if you actually follow the Teams throughout the film. It's when people start getting along across these these gaps where there's there's happiness and friendships and stuff, So I think you're not really seeing the big picture. If you don't look at what the theme of the film is, so I think it's almost 50 years now, and I know they got a bleep out a lot of stuff if they broadcast it today. But I think blazing saddles holds up Really well. Well, thanks Andrew to Constance Grady. Your point that this is very personal for people, and they have to draw their personal lines around this. Yeah, absolutely. I think there are so many movies where someone could be like this is absolutely not something that I want to inflict on myself anymore. Another ones where someone might be like You know, someone else with the same movie might say, You know what? I think this works really? Well, something I think about a lot is you know the author is dead. The person who is perceiving the work of art is the one who creates that every time they experience it, so Every reading of it that comes valid. We're all making it over every each and every time. Well, Mike rights would appreciate your guest thoughts about one of my favorite shows as a kid the courtship of Eddie's father, though I haven't revisited it yet. We visited it. I seem to recall it being a bit ahead of its time regarding women's roles and may be lacking racial ignorant, cringe tax. I'm not familiar with this are either of you familiar Dave Shilling or Constance Grady. Oh, I I I watched the courtship of Eddie's father. I watched all kinds of Nick it night like older television shows before I was able to grapple with any of the stuff it's in there. Courtship of Eddie's father is is interesting because it's about a single dad s. Oh, there is kind of a more modern gender politics there because it's not about the nuclear family that existed in so many mid century sitcoms, especially the black and white ones. But I mean, I think it's hard Tol really given any credit for doing anything about race because you didn't simply didn't see people of color on television. Very often, It was not an issue. It was not important. To those television shows they existed outside of race because they wanted to pretend as though people of color did not exist. A sensually. Um, obviously there is there are exceptions. To that rule, like I love Lucy and Ricky Ricardo. Um by red Daisy are Nan's, but at the same time they didn't talk about him being Cuban know, you know, they don't talk about him being a Latino man. In America. It was just he had this kooky wife and she's always doing silly things. So yeah, there certainly isn't the racial stuff that you feel bad about because it just they were invisible at that time. Well, Caroline writes about away that she's found to enjoy old shows and films. Caroline writes. My friends and I compile a list of Skip episodes four series like the Nanny and Frasier. Let me go to Terry and Larks for Hi, Terry. Thanks. I'm the queen Drew the shell for me was Sabrina with Audrey Hepburn Because now she would just seem like a really weird, pathetic soccer and you just kind of wanted her to get a backbone And then they were kind of crossing her around. But also, I think held up really well with the war of the roses because It's kind of like a you know that starts off with him being kind of a jerk and choose the woman that kind of Figures. I just can't take this jerk anymore and you're rooting for her back when it first came out, and you're still rooting for her anything because He was such a clear jerk and she is the woman that kind of is the hero in the movie, Despite all, what they did to each other and 16 candles is a map because he hands his drugs girlfriend over to a guy says here, do what you want with her, and the guy takes pictures of her. So, yeah, those were cringe worthy, then. Really, for me. I remember watching that feeling really, That's not cool at all Mysterious and it still is. That I think that Audrey Hepburn movies. I really hard to watch because we love her so much, but in a lot of them, she's just not very strong, like she's just really like, you know, she and that Sabrina She was weird, actually. You know, Thank you Fucking this guy. So anyway, uh, thanks for sharing your assessments. There. Let me go to Richard in Daly City. Next. I, Richard. Thanks. Like.

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09:16 min | 4 months ago

"dave shilling" Discussed on KQED Radio

"Meet Oh, what am I talking about? All you handsome zillionaires know each other? That was former President Donald Trump with his cameo on a 1996 episode of the Nanny. We're talking about some of our favorite movies and TV shows that for some of us Haven't really aged so well. We're make us cringe. Right now We're talking with Constance Grady, Culture Writer Provocative and Dave Shilling co host of galaxy, Brains, a podcaster movies, TV and overthinking collide and you, our listeners are with us. Telling us if there's an old TV show or film that lost its charm for you upon re watching that has jokes or scenes that you find cringeworthy today and didn't remember being so bad. You could give us a colleague 667336786 you can get in touch on Twitter or Facebook at KQED Forum. Email. US forum at kqed dot organ Stephanie writes love Actually years ago, I considered it a favorite movie on re watch with my 21 year old son. It was chaotic, disjointed and just plain terrible. Let me go next to Collar Simon in Sacramento. Hi, Simon. Join us. Thank you for taking my call. Yeah, Recently we rewatched. There's something about Mary, which is a you know, kind of edgy comedy from the late nineties and definitely something that millennials Sort of grew up. Maybe not grew up watching. But I saw in high school and, um, boy, my friend and I, we've started watching it and didn't make it. Very far through after the The jokes, which are highly charged with misogyny, and the thing that really just struck us as very uncomfortable, was the jokes at the expense of people with disabilities. On guy I also wanted to just agree with. I think it was constant to said how we kind of look back in the films from the fifties and sort of way back and Think of those is as things that air You know that bygone time? Um but wow some of the films from the nineties and as she said, he's in the early two. Thousands are very much, if not, if not worse than some of the tropes that we see in Films from the fifties. So it's an interesting topic. Thanks for bringing it up, and I'll take my, uh I'll take comments off here. Yeah, Simon, you have some support here. Grace rights. There's something about Mary is something awful. Chris Elliott character stocks Mary played by Cameron Diaz to the point where she is to shield her identity. All that is played office. Hilarious hijinks of It doesn't erase the fact that this was essentially a fella about a woman who needed to get a restraining order. I mean, Constance Grady. There's a few things that Simon this comment. Bring up and what we were talking about just before the break. One is, as you say, very recent things. And the other thing that came up is the fact that I'm hearing people say, Well, I watched this old movie when I saw it. Come up, You know, for example, the woman who watched my fair lady and I was thinking about how streaming services I think really have made this even more pronounced because it gives us access to shows that we probably you know, wouldn't turn to without this sort of option before us. Yeah, Absolutely. I think the nanny is a great example. There. That's a show that kind of language for a while until it suddenly showed up on streaming a few months ago, And there was this big resurgence of people watching the nanny and loving it. Ah, lot of TV critics that I follow where suddenly just tweeting about the nanny nonstop. But as they were sort of rediscovering their love for this show, they also had to deal with the fact that it is very much a product of its time. And some of the ways we talk about things have really changed. And they found themselves really struggling with some of the jokes and the humor and having to just reconcile that with their very you know, still existing admiration for an affection for this show. It's something that's so tricky to reconcile. I think, especially with a sitcom right, which is A form of art that's supposed to be about comfort and stability and getting you into this nice, cozy place for you're just sitting on your couch in your sweat pants laughing on Ben to suddenly just come across this reminder of some of the really terrible things in the world can be so jarring. What do you think about the speed with which it feels like this shift in social norms has happened. That's making us reevaluate things, Dave Shilling from, you know, just the early two thousands. Well, I certainly social media has done more than its fair share. Tioga ring that about when you are able to Commiserated with like minded individuals and amplify your voice. To such a degree. It's inevitable. That thing's gonna start to move faster. The people going to start to see things differently. That pressure is going to be brought to bear on companies and, um broadcasters quicker. Um, e. I think you know we're not quite understanding just how intense that process has become, And that's that contributes to a lot of people's anxiety and stress about the world is we as a society can't keep up with the pace of change, which is why I give a lot of Leeway to some of these things that I watch. Now that I loved as a kid, It's like, okay, you know, they didn't expect things to change when you're in the moment. You don't expect Mores and in cultural ideas to change. You Just think this is how it's going to be forever and we're now grappling as a collective with the idea that things are never going to stay the same, and they're constantly going to be in a period of evolution. And how do we grapple with that? How do we accept our history while embracing the very present very near future. Yeah. Let me go to Emily and San Francisco. Hi, Emily. Thanks for calling. Hi. Thanks for discussing this. What came to mind was actually TVs does this thing every year where they run 24 hours of a Christmas story, which I've seen growing up as a kid. My husband had never seen. So we watched it just this past December and had totally I had totally forgotten about Justine at the very end, where the family goes out for Chinese food after the neighbor's dogs eat the Christmas turkey and it's just a very Blatantly racist scene sort of making fun of language difficulties. Have certain Asian American English speakers and sort of, ironically that they You pick on these particular Asian characters for not being able to pronounce L's when it's a Chinese restaurant and Chinese people have the phony and L. It's the Japanese language that doesn't use the phone email, so it's very flattening. Absolutely. Leighton, Uh, Universal izing and other ring of innovation. People in that film that's widely regarded as a Christmas classic. Yeah, and you say you used to watch this a lot. Yeah. I mean, I think that's the thing right. Like things we used to watch so frequently that suddenly just are jarring in this way. Jane writes Soul Man, the entire movie, Dave feeling you were talking about Solman earlier, and then there are also quite a few people who wrote about It's really anti Asian depictions. Claire, right 16 candles, Long duck Dong and the gong sound playing every time the character is referenced on, Joshua writes Every cool indie movie I stand as a 14 year old on tumbler Age. Badly Lost in translation is racism is disgusting. I re watched before a trip to Japan and 2017. And it is horrible. It was Sofia Coppola, who was all acclaimed in the early two thousands. But this is a brilliant work of art. And it is Scarlett Johansson and Bill Murray sitting in a luxury hotel in Tokyo, saying racist mothering things all day long. So that gives you a sense of where people are at and what they're reacting to as well and one of the things that I wanted Tol ask you about day because you were just getting to this just before I had Emily come on with her comment was just what do we do with this kind of content? You were talking about grappling with it, How we wrestle with it, How you watch things and try to think about Kinds of issues that they have, but are also reluctant to completely let them go. Yeah, I don't you I don't think that we want to take these things off of the streaming universe. I don't think we need to Be pulling things down or censoring things. Um, I think we need to be talking about this stuff. I think we need to be saying this happened The minute we start Changing our history is the minute we stopped being able to avoid those mistakes again to assume that the world's always been perfect by editing things down changing things. We are.

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03:50 min | 4 months ago

"dave shilling" Discussed on KQED Radio

"I think a lot of people that you know we'd fixed everything that the bigotry and racism in the sexism that on the homophobia was all gone, and in fact, it really was not on. I think it's kind of important to keep having those conversations and recognizing that it was not gone when we thought it was before, So maybe that's our cue that it's also not gone now, and it's something that we still need to keep pushing back against. A reader writes. I love the movie. My Fair Lady is a child. So when it popped up as an offering recently, I watched it. I was a bit shocked at the male dominated message that it sends analyzes happiness with the outcome. Ouch and Andrea tweets romancing the stone. It's still a fun romcom with great scenery. But now the racism, mostly from Danny DeVito's character is just too hard to take. Do you feel like Have you thought about what has made these issues? The ones that make these so hard to hold up consistent like What was happening in the industry. I think it was. It was just a lack of empathy across the board. I think empathy from the people behind the camera is what's going to make The films and television shows more palatable for a modern audience and empathy wasn't there because the creators were by and large white males. And white males are responsible for a lot of wonderful art. I'm not going to pretend like I don't very much enjoy watching Star Wars. Um, but That's just a fact. It's just a fact of the industry that if you look at the demographics of who is making movies if its directors if its editors if it's screenwriters, if its producers, it's significantly more mail. Then, um, it is today It's still not even close to where it should be. Here is an example. So The movie that we're talking about this week on my podcast galaxy Brains is crew. Ella. It seems on the surface to be this very female oriented female gaze story about empowerment and growing up and all of that stuff directed by a man, a white man, Craig Gillespie. Nothing wrong with the fact that he directed it. But you're not going to get the cultural sensitivities you might otherwise get if you if you don't have someone who is a part of that world to say this is what it's really like. This is what it's really like to be a black person in America. This is what it's really like to be an Asian person in America. This is what it's really like to be queer in America. If you don't have that you're not going to have the natural empathy required to make something that has respect and emotional residents. In reality, you're just going to end up with caricatures, which is what we had. In the eighties and nineties in early two thousands with movies like Soul Man Where C. Thomas Howell paints his face to pretend to be black to get into Harvard. Or you're gonna get Indiana Jones, the Temple of Doom where Indiana Jones is fighting South Asian people, Indian people, I am just the caricature of that. It's just really, really terrible. We're talking with Dave Shilling and Constance Grady about our favorite movies and TV shows that just haven't aged Well, we want to hear yours at 8667336786. You can email us Forum a cake, sweetie dot org's Or Get in touch on Twitter or Facebook at KQED Forum more after the break. I need a Kim. Support for KQED comes from PG and E 811 is a free service to keep the community safe before doing any digging. Let PG and E mart gas and electric lines so they don't get hit. Call 811 before digging more npg.

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08:20 min | 4 months ago

"dave shilling" Discussed on KQED Radio

"I know the movie was made a long time ago. But they may wonder Has this happened to you? You we watched a movie you once loved even from just a few years ago. And there were moments that made you cringe were reflecting this hour on films and TV shows that don't quite stack up to today's social norms. So tell us what's lost its charm for you. You can call us at 86673367868667336786. You can get in touch on Twitter or Facebook. Or tell us on email at forum and kqed dot organ. Let me tell you who is joining us. Constance Grady is a cultural writer at box. Constance Grady. Thanks so much for being on Thanks so much for having me. Also, Dave Shilling is with us co host of Galaxy Brains a podcast where movies TV and overthinking collide. Dave Shilling. Thanks for training kisses well, Always a pleasure. And thank you for laughing about the title of the show. Or the tag line is very silly. So you could almost describe public radio that way way you describe a lot of stuff away. But our our show was special. Yeah, I'm sure so Well, let me start with you, Dave Shilling like what? Filmore Show has not held up for you. Well, this is going to be going pretty far back and something that I'm sure no one is watching right now. And you shouldn't is a police academy franchise. Other seven police Academy movies, four of them star Steve Gutenberg. You might remember from three men and a baby, one of the biggest stars of the eighties Steve Gutenberg and kind of not around anymore, but those movies were Just enchanting to me as a child. I love them. I thought they were so mad, Captain silly but watching them to Dad. Watch them with my girlfriend. I would say probably two or three months into the pandemic last year. And she said, I can't watch this. This is so offensive. It's so homophobia. It's so racially insensitive. It's so xenophobic and and and silly on offensive the We never finished even the first one. I had this grand player to make her watch all seven and she said No. You know what? I'm good. Thank you so much. What about for you? Constance? Grady, what has not held up for you? But my pick has sort of held up and not held up in very weird ways. My pick is the TV show mystics which I think was never a huge hit in the U. S. But it wasn't the U K in the early late aughts early Tensy started and I think, 2009 it was this very a reverend show about a bunch of juvenile delinquent, too. Gets struck by lightning while they're doing their court ordered community service and end up with really terrible superpowers on Guy wanted to re watch it during quarantine because I felt like watching people act very blase and casual about big, apocalyptic things would just be really comforting for me under those circumstances, But what I had for gotten was this was a show that was really into that, like Lee off ironic homophobia thing where you know you say an offensive gay joke. And ostensibly, the joke is like, Oh, this character is not enlightened, but really, The joke is they're getting to say this kind of offensive stuff. It was just so jarring to me to realize how much that had flown by and hadn't really bothered me. The first time I watched it, which was really not that long ago, right? This was just like 10 11 years ago on debt. Somehow that humor had aged so badly and because it's so central to the core of this show that thinks of itself is being really irreverent, and that's like the charm of it. It sort of put a little bit of a sour cast on the whole thing for me, even though there's a lot about the show that I still enjoy. Yeah, and both you and Dave showing have have highlighted homophobia is one of the common issues that we're seeing in programs, not Holding up and Dave Shilling. You were also just talking about the racial insensitivity of it. What are some other common issues that you find in shows that just really make them sour as they did for Constance Grady? I think that one of the most common problems with entertainment from the last 50 years, I guess is the gender dynamic the way in which women Treated as possessions or prices. I mean, that's why I went to film school, actually in San Francisco State University, and I Was always told, like there has to be some sort of prize for the character in screenwriting classes like you have to be getting the girl and that's always implying that the male character is the Engine of the storytelling that the male character is the one that you are identifying with, and the female lead is really just there to be won at the end, and I think that's true of a lot of entertainment from the eighties that I grew up with or the nineties as well, Um Revenge of the Nerds is a great example of a film that seemed pretty quaint and charming and cute in an underdog story that makes everybody feel wonderful. But there is that infamous scene where the lead character Robert Kennedy's character dupes, the be female lead into having sex with him. She thinks he is her boyfriend. And that is not the case he has pretending. And then he takes his helmet. Obviously good Guess what? It's not your boyfriend. It's me that is a violation of someone's consent. We all thought that was so cute. And like, oh, good for him. He got to achieve something that he otherwise wouldn't have. We're looking at the world through his perspective, not to hurt. How does it feel to be duped like that? It wouldn't actually feel good. But the movie makes it seem like this was a fairy tale opportunity for her when it would not be in real life, and we have actually quite a few listeners who've commented on assault the way that it was treated so casually, Clare writes, greases summer love and song did she put up a fight? Misogyny and, Yeah, just sexism engender. This is no rights. Maybe it's too obvious. But Manhattan I used to love early Woody Allen films and high school was kind of a badge of intelligence. If you knew the films I remember loving Mariel Hemingway in Manhattan weirdly, and this is embarrassing to admit wishing I could be like her in what seemed to me then has sophisticated New York City milieu getting the attention of someone like Woody Allen. It is painful to watch. Now let me go to collar Roxanne in Hollister. Hi, Roxanne. What is something that you found really cringe worthy these days? Um So I remember that Jean Martin rose. So so I remember watch. He knows like what family and we just thought they were so funny. We were just We were just be in tears while feet and my husband my husband now he also remembered that and we just kind of a fun time as though we had an opportunity to order some old like CDs on them, and we We watched them and we on Lee could get through like half of one because it was so bad, And I think that the point that somebody made earlier about the way that women are talking about that was the biggest thing that was so cringe worthy. And then the other thing was a lot of jokes about alcoholism, Lot of smoking disability, and he just it was It was really bad, and I just Couldn't get through it. Roxanne. Thanks. I mean, Constance Grady. You have written quite a bit actually about our realizations now, just how misogynistic A lot of stuff was from the eighties and nineties and even the early odds. Yeah. Yeah, It's interesting because these things, they're so reason I think we're kind of used culturally to being like, Oh, well, the fifties was bad, but after that we kind of got better. Um, and it's been a little jarring for a lot of people. I think to start to look back, most recently with things like the framing Britney Spears documentary that had a lot of people rethinking the way we talked about famous women during the aughts and just realizing We kind of thought..

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01:31 min | 5 months ago

"dave shilling" Discussed on KQED Radio

"It should be about What can we do that special here? Well, Mortal Kombat was released in theaters and on the streaming platform. HBO Max. So was Godzilla versus calling. That's another fact Fantasy action movie that's doing well financially. We got the street from Justin, Who says, Does this mean we could finally get a halo movie? And Karen? I'm wonder what you think. You know, this says about the types of movies people wanna watch right now, when what we might see in the future. I mean, I think I guess to be cynical. I'm sorry, gate it like there is a certain degree to which I feel like people want to see more of the things that they're familiar with, and the more of the things that they like, which is like why, for example, like I am interested in the last of a series and I'm interested to see what they do. Especially, I will say, because it partially because I'm a scaredy cat and can't get through the games on their own. Like I want to see the movie so I can experience the whole thing in some format. Um But I mean, it's an inevitable product of society. Like I think people the people who are involved with these game there with these movies adapted from games are going to be people who are invested in them because you don't want someone to work on a project who doesn't have a love for it. On the same token, like the reason that these projects are going to get green in the first place is partially do with the fact that they know that people have this pre existing feelings towards them and will see these movies. That's Karen Hon. She's a staff writer at Slate. You also heard from Geeta Jackson. She's a staff writer at Motherboard from vice and the co host of Waypoint Radio. And Dave Shilling. He co hosts the Galaxy Brains podcast.

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02:40 min | 5 months ago

"dave shilling" Discussed on KQED Radio

"To show that they're champions. That said, I do think he's very much a movie character like I don't think I could see him necessarily in one of the main games, at least not until they develop his powers a little bit more. Getting Mortal Kombat has a ton of characters, and we got to see some of the most recognizable ones like Scorpion and sub zero How do you feel about the time the movie spent with the classic characters? Well, I mean, actually, one of the things I wanted to point out was how nice it was to see that they had cast a black woman to play Molina. I know in the game when the most recent World combat introduced that character in the game, they had the rapper Meghan the Stallion caused play her as part of the announcement. In this game is like a huge game. Very popular game in the finding in community, which is, you know, a largely like black community in this game is the last of the black people. So you know it doesn't you know, I'm disappointed that I didn't get to see a lot of reptile, which is the gay the player, the character that my partner plays most often because he likes to do the acid stuff. But I also feel like every single appearance of each character like, how do you meaningful moment for fans of those characters and you know the way the movie is structured? It gives you a lot of reasons why the movie is focused on the characters. It is focused on. But every time legacy character shows up, everybody who's ever touched a mortal Kombat game has a like a hell yes, Moment. Well, Kelly tweets. It was a fun movie and definitely better than most video game adaptations. I'm looking at you 90 three's Super Mario Brothers and Josh Lawson as Keano's stole the show. You know, Dave, I can I can imagine someone sitting at home and being like, what are they? What are they talking about? How familiar do you need to be with? Mortal Kombat and the lore around the video game to enjoy the movie. That Zagreb question because you know, as we've been talking about this movie was designed from the ground up to hopefully introduce people to this franchise who aren't otherwise. Fans, but a same time. It is peppered with references to the game to allusions to things that you've seen in the other the other films or in in the TV show that there's a teeth he show. Very briefly or the the video game. The reboot the most recent reboot. That means it's kind of hard to jump in completely like you have to know a little bit about mortal combat toe like this movie. We're talking all things Mortal Kombat and video game movies with Dave Shilling. He's co host of the Galaxy, Brain podcast Geeta Jackson from Vice and Karen Hon from.

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KQED Radio

07:00 min | 5 months ago

"dave shilling" Discussed on KQED Radio

"Host of the Galaxy. Brains podcast from Polygon Day. Welcome. Thanks for having me Also with us is Geeta Jackson. She's a staff writer at Motherboard from Vice and the co host of Waypoint Radio. Welcome Back to the show. Geeta. Hi. Thanks for having me and with us. Karen Han, a staff writer at Slate, Karen, Welcome. Thank you so much. I'm so excited to get into mortal combat with you guys carry keeping nonviolent. I'm kidding. Okay, so you you wrote a review of the New Mortal Kombat movie First Light. The title is the new Mortal Kombat movie rules. So I feel like I know the answer is there but tell us what you thought of the movie. I mean, I had so much fun with it. I was talking to a few friends and we were wondering, Do we like this movie so much like because movie going during the pandemic has been kind of such a lackluster year. Or is it just because this movie is genuinely fun? I tend to think the answer to that question is the ladder. It just does a good job of delivering exactly what it's supposed to which is A bunch of guys fighting like that is all that a mortal Kombat movie has to do. And it absolutely accomplishes that. Dave. What about you? Oh, boy. Well, I mean, I'm going to disagree slightly. I did enjoy the movie, but it didn't offer the one thing every Mortal Kombat story is supposed to offer. And that is the Mortal Kombat tournament, folks. Not having the tournament is sort of like Star Wars, not having a war in space in it. So were you a Mortal Kombat fan before this? Absolutely. Yes. I mean, I am of a certain age to have been entranced by the video games, The movies, the whole mythology, the universe of it, So, Yeah, I was kind of expecting. I turn on a movie called Normal Combat. There will be a Mortal Kombat tournament. And yet here we are in this non Mortal Kombat tournament world and I'm very perplexed. We got this voice mail from will in North Carolina. I saw the New Mortal Kombat movie and I really liked it. I say This, of course, is a guy who hasn't really played a lot of it. I have very little outside knowledge. So some people here are saying the main character was bad. I thought, you know, this guy doesn't know anything about Mortal Kombat. I don't know anything about what will combat we're on the same level. The fights were awesome. Music was nice, a good blend of like pleasing the fans and having enough there to to have the federal viewing public understand it. Okay, Geeta. I want to hear your take. Do you think this was Ah, good movie, Or was it good for Mortal Kombat movie? Oh, well, I watched it last night, and I have to say not only did I really have a great time with it. It made me really You're in for the experience of seeing a movie in a theater with other people. There's so many moving moments in this movie that are clearly built like you can really tell. I think it really takes seeing it outside of a movie theater, seeing it alone to see how blockbuster action movies are built differently from other films. You can see that the film is paced towards these intense moments of celebration where everyone in the room is gonna have a vocal reaction. There's so many points where me and my partner returned to each other and just be like I wish we could hear everyone cheering. During this moment, but you know not only that, I felt like you know, it's actually the article up on waypoint today by Cameron Councilman that goes into the plot of the Mortal Kombat games and how this movie actually reflects the expansiveness of the law or more accurately, then reach for doing a re tread of the first original 1995 movie that cover the tournament arc. In fact, you know, Cameron says in this article, which I read this morning, and I think it is Very informative that a lot of the recent games don't actually have a term in dark at all. Or the treatment arc is, you know Ortho agonal or parallel to the actually important lower things are happening. This feels like if this movie feels like it, not only is a wonderful action movie that's a lot of fun that I wish I could see with a lot of people in a big room on a hot, sunny day, but like it reflects the reality of what Mortal Kombat has become in the intervening years since release Stephen Tweets. I have been in Mortal Kombat fan since I spent what must have been over $200 mastering Sonya Blade in 92. I really enjoyed the new movie Love the mythology and the way they explain the characters energy powers. It was ridiculous. But then I'm reminded that it is mortal combat After all. What do you expect? We're talking to Dave Shilling, co host of the Galaxy, Brain podcast, Geeta Jackson from vice and Karen Han from Slate. We sat down with Mortal Kombat director and producer Simon McCoy, the head of this show and asked him about the decision to introduce a new main character for the film, And here's what he had to say There were a couple of reasons actually, the firstly model combat over its The last several decades of its existence, have all that new characters all the time. It's become one of the things so 80 odd characters now and There is precedent. Then we felt it was I kind of do that. It was kind of a mortal Kombat thing to do. And then the other reason is we needed a fresh set of eyes inside the movie to take the audiences through it. It may not be That outside with all the information and more common of which there is a lot. So that was the reason for the man reasons actually, and he as he learned the audience land Allowed us to tomo, unlock and open up some of the information that we needed to Dave. What did you think about the introduction of this new main character, Cole Young. Well, I agree with with Simon about the need to have someone who can express the audience that befuddlement any given point in in a film like this. I think that's Kind of a common trope in genre film making, which is every once in a while. Character needs to say what exactly is going on right now? Who is that? Why is that happening? How come my chest is glowing? That kind of stuff s so it is a pivotal screenwriting trope. In a lot of these movies going all the way back to again. Just a reference Star Wars They feel like Mortal Kombat has a lot in common with Star Wars is Star Wars has multiple point of view characters that ask those questions. If it's Luke, If it's Han solo on then, you know in the in the sequel trilogy, having Ray and and fan asking questions all the time like that's important for these mythology, heavy Films do I feel like it was a fantastic addition to the mythology of Mortal Kombat? No, but I understand why it was there. It was a tool with which to tell this story. That is really probably one of the most elaborate mythologies and all of video games. Karen, what about you? I agree, and then I think he's sort of necessary for the movie because there's so much lore like there's that car that comes up right after the initial sequence that explains the premises of Outworld and Earth realm, and what Mortal Kombat the tournament is. But I feel like having to explain too much of that via initial text to be too much, so it's helpful to have cold there to kind of school details out about like the Kanna about the Mortal Kombat symbols that they all have..

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01:54 min | 5 months ago

"dave shilling" Discussed on KQED Radio

"Starts tomorrow and will continue through the weekend as the marine layer deepens and the sea breezes increase. The National Weather Service says lows will be near 50 tonight. Friday will be partly cloudy with a forecast high of 64 San Francisco. Oakland should reach up Friday High of 69 in sandals. They expect a high of 76 tomorrow and the forecast high for Sacramento. Tomorrow is 88. It's nine of six thistles KQED. This'd is one, eh? I'm Jenn White in Washington. If you're of a certain age, or you spent time in an arcade, this music will likely bring about Yeah. These two movies. Fans have very strong, mostly negative thoughts about them. But now, 26 years after the first movie, Mortal Kombat is back, the latest film broke box office records with the biggest opening weekend of any R rated movie since the start of the pandemic. For this month's edition of the one A movie club. We're talking about it, So consider this your spoiler morning. We're joined by Dave Shilling. He's the co host of the Galaxy. Brains podcast from Polygon Day. Welcome. Thanks for having me Also with us is Geeta Jackson. She's a staff writer at Motherboard from Vice and the co.

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08:02 min | 5 months ago

"dave shilling" Discussed on KPCC

"Been successful in that respect, like Mortal Kombat, obviously is not a very story heavy movie, but things like Detective Peek atyou, for instance, I thought did a pretty good job of translating a movie er transiting a video game from consul to screen in a way that was coherent, didn't really lose the spirit of the games and all and still made sense and was fun as a movie. Well, Fahim email this I played the original mortal combat in an arcade back in 1992 when I was nine, and life has never been the same ever since. The movie was awesome through and through. I liked every character. They each played a pivotal role in the overall plot. Unlike the 95 version, it didn't bother me that there was no actual tournament. I enjoy the character development and build up to it. And Stephen E mails haven't seen the new film. But this conversation is definitely making me want to venture out to theaters or sign up for HBO as For the original movie. I was also the perfect age. When it came out 14 or 15. I finally remember my best friend and I buying the soundtrack on CD Afterwards. I'm sorry. This is some kid out there saying, What's the CD as a movie? Yeah, it's silly, but so was the source material where we ask Mortal Kombat director and producer Simon McCoy it about a potential Mortal Kombat sequel. And here's what he had to say about that. All of us throughout the whole process of the film never talked openly about the s word. We never really talked about Sickles week. You do it. Obviously you do a little tiny bit knowing that there are opportunities there, especially bottle combat, which has such a bunch of rich treasure trove off. Characters and ideas. So yeah, There's obviously stuff sitting around, but we've never really talked about it in great detail. We've done a couple of things in the film, little join the pieces. You could call them, but it's not for us to decide whether there's a sequel. It's whether the fans and the new audiences um and super fans, whether they like the film enoughto one of sickle, and then if they do then, of course. I mean name. Did you get the feeling we're watching this movie that they weren't thinking about a sequel potential? I always laughed during that clip of him saying we were talking about a sequel. No, of course you work again. I have to stress this again and I don't Some people don't care what you're wrong for. Not Carrie. There's no tournament in this movie. They're building to the tournament. And John he, Kate. Sorry. Spoiler alert. Johnny Cage is teased at in the last scene of the movie. We're gonna go find Johnny Cage. Look, this is this is designed from the beginning to be a franchise and I think one of the things that we have not talked about when it comes to video game adaptations in in feature films is the most important question, which is why Why are we making these movies? Why do we feel like me to take something like the last of us, which is a great story? Hold very well in its original medium and make it less less interesting by making it a flat TV adaptation like What are we doing this for? I think with Mortal Kombat. It makes a certain amount of sense because their elements of the storytelling that are missing it's a fighting game. But there is this mythology, so it kind of fits nicely into Uh, medium where you can expand the characters and have more things happening, and for them to have rich inner lives. Hopefully, as Thies, this franchise continues. With something like death, stranding or the last of us. These are things that are already perfect. Why would we want to make movies out of them with the medium of video games has Matured so much that it can stand next to a movie and say We're just it's good as you I'm Jenn White. You're listening to one, eh? We're talking to Dave Shilling, co host of the Galaxy, Brain podcast, Kita Jackson from vice and Karen Han from Slate. So we got this message from Moon Bird who tweets video game movies or proof that Hollywood had just bet against original material in favor of money in the bank. Art is not dead, but it's a needle in studio cities. Haystack and get. I wonder if that is part of the answer to Dave's question. Why are we making these movies that such a cynical and really sad way to look at art? You know, it makes me really upset when people are just like blew. Everybody's just doing things for money. We live in a capitalist class society. You need to have money to live. I'm sorry. It really, you know. Video game movies. There's Especially in the case of something like the last of us, which was so self consciously designed to mimic a mode of television, You know, the prestige television of the Sopranos or madman. It's really clear sometimes why people like in the case of the last of us, Neil Druckman himself wanted to translate these stories from video games into movies. Or into television ships. You know there If you are a person who has designed a video game that is clearly heavily inspired by different kinds of television shows that of Aaron, HBO, the chance to adapt it into that medium is I'm sure irresistible to you, especially because they've gotten such an incredible cast with delayed gigolo toe Loop. Diego Diego Luna. I don't know what happened there on Frederic Pascal, who I think is the only good celebrity. Um I just I feel like there's nothing less like guaranteed then the adaptation of a video game into a movie right there. Historically, you know, cool. Look, we only known as being incredibly bad. The potential of having a built in fan base is You know, pretty enticing. I'm sure but not the as and you know, it isn't not a guarantee of success, especially in a world where the biggest movies that make the most money in the bank are ones that are just like within this Marvel Studios keep machine Um I feel like the desire to the enemy. The Tutut adapt these things in some of them. Cases of the more recent video game annotations really do come down to you, Uh, The director and the people in the project. Having an interested in mortal combat is more of a corporate product. But there is absolutely you know, we are reaching a point where the people that group of Mortal Kombat are now the major drivers of the economy. It is like our time for our entertainment to be the mainstream, and that's that is the reflection we're seeing. This is more necessarily If there's any sort of time to chase the money here, it's attempted cheese millennials where the people setting it. We should mention the original while the Mortal Kombat video game originally came out in 1992, so yeah. The people of a certain age are with disposable income, perhaps are going to the movies. Go ahead, Dave. Real briefly. Oh, I just wanted to pick piggyback off of this and say, I think the question is certainly not about money. I think the question of why should always come down to Art. Whether or not it feels as though the story told in the video game can be told differently, or with some kind of unique quality that could only come from movie or a television show. Like I just think it's not about it shouldn't be about money. It should be about What can we do that special here? Well, Mortal Kombat was released in theaters and on the streaming platform. HBO Max. So was Godzilla versus calling. That's another fact Fantasy action movie that's doing well financially. We got the street from Justin, Who says, Does this mean we could finally get a halo movie? And Karen? I'm wonder what you think. You know, this says about the types of movies people wanna watch right now on what we might see in the future. I mean, I think I guess to be cynical. I'm sorry, gate it like there is a certain degree to which I feel like people want to see more of the things that they're familiar with, and the more of the things that they like, which is like why, for example, like I am interested in the last of a serious and I'm interested to see what they do. Especially, I will say, because it partially because I'm a scaredy cat and can't get through the games on the road like I want to see the movie so I can experience the whole thing in some format..

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"dave shilling" Discussed on KPCC

KPCC

05:18 min | 5 months ago

"dave shilling" Discussed on KPCC

"Down with Mortal Kombat director and producer Simon McCoy, the head of this show and asked him about the decision to introduce a new main character for the film, and here's what he had to say. There were a couple of reasons, actually, the firstly model combat over it. The last several decades of its existence have All that new characters all the time. It's become one of the things so his 80 odd characters now and There is precedent them. We felt it was I kind of do that. It was kind of the Mortal Kombat thing to do. And then the other reason is we needed a fresh set of eyes inside the movie to take the audiences through it. It may not be that okay with all the information and more common of which there is a lot so That was the reason for the mind. Raisins actually and hey, as he learned, the audience learned, allowed us to tomo, unlock and open up some of the information that we needed to Dave. What did you think about the introduction of this new main character, Cole Young. Well, I agree with with Simon about the need to have someone who can express the audiences befuddlement any given point in in a film like this, I think that's kind of a common trope in genre film making, which is Every once in a while character needs to say what exactly is going on right now? Who is that? Why is that happening? How come my chest is glowing? That kind of stuff, So it is a pivotal screenwriting trope. In a lot of these movies going all the way back to you again. Just a reference Star Wars They feel like Mortal Kombat has a lot in common with Star Wars is Star Wars has multiple point of view characters that ask those questions if it's Luke. If it's Han solo on then, you know, in the in the sequel trilogy, having Ray and fan asking questions all the time like that's important for these mythology, heavy films. Do I feel like it was a fantastic addition to the mythology of Mortal Kombat? No, but I understand why it was there. It was a tool with which to tell this story. That is really probably one of the most elaborate mythologies and all of video games. Karen, what about you? Um, I agree, and that I think he's sort of necessary for the movie because there's so much lore like there's that car that comes up right after the initial sequence that explains the premises of Outworld and Earth realm, and what Mortal Kombat the tournament is. But I feel like having to explain too much of that via initial text to be too much, so it's helpful to have cold there to kind of school. Details out about lengthy are Kanna about the Mortal Kombat symbols that they all have to show that they're champions. That said. I do think he's very much a movie character like I don't think I could see him necessarily in one of the main games, at least not until they develop his powers. A little bit more nog to Mortal combat has a ton of characters, and we got to see some of the most recognizable ones like Scorpion and sub zero How do you feel about the time the movie spent with the classic characters? Well, I mean, actually, one of the things I wanted to point out was how nice it was to see that they had cast a black woman to play Molina. I know in the game when the most recent world combat introduced that character in the game they had the rapper Meghan, the Sally and cause play her as part of the announcement in this game is like a huge game, very popular game in the final game community, which is You know, a largely like black community And this game is the last of the black people. So you know it doesn't you know, I'm disappointed that I didn't get to see a lot of reptile, which is the gay the player, the character that my partner plays most often because he likes to do the acid stuff. But I also feel like every single appearance of each character. Like, how do you meaningful moment for fans of those characters and you know the way of the movie is structured. It gives you a lot of reasons why the movie is focused on the characters that is focused on but every time legacy character shows up. Everybody who's ever touched a mortal Kombat game hasn't like a hell yes, Moment. Well, Kelly tweets. It was a fun movie and definitely better than most video game adaptations. I'm looking at you 93 Super Mario Brothers and Josh Lawson as Keano's stole the show. You know, Dave, I can I can imagine someone sitting at home and being like, what are they? What are they talking about? How familiar do you need to be with Mortal Kombat and the lore around the video game to enjoy the movie? That Zagreb question because you know, as we've been talking about this movie was designed from the ground up to hopefully introduce people to this franchise who aren't otherwise. Fans, but a same time. It is peppered with references to the game to allusions to things that you've seen in the other the other films or in in the TV show that there's a teeth he show. Very briefly or the the the video game. The reboot the most recent reboot. Um, that means it's kind of hard to jump in completely like you have to know a little bit about mortal combat toe like this movie. We're talking all things Mortal Kombat and video game movies with Dave Shilling. He's co host of the Galaxy, Brain podcast Geeta Jackson from.

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"dave shilling" Discussed on Rock N Roll Archaeology

Rock N Roll Archaeology

08:22 min | 1 year ago

"dave shilling" Discussed on Rock N Roll Archaeology

"Twenty nine thousand nine there were no tribute performances. So now now this year two thousand twenty we've got three tribute performances. T. Rex. I don't even know if the drummer of T.. Rex Bill Legend who has uh not been in the music industry since he wrecks and has just kind of separated himself from that. I'm curious you feel even show up. And if he would play. And then we've got Whitney Houston an and tourist budget so we've got three tribute performances happening. it's interesting to see what will transpire. They haven't announced Avenue announced. I mean we're still still the ceremonies in May. Yeah so the have not announced anything whether it's the speeches or the performers and you know often with the tribute performances. The performance aren't aren't necessarily the same people who've speech there's overlap sometimes. They're not like Nina Simone. It was marriage a blige. Who did the speech but then she did not perform it? Do we have a WHO wooded we guess I mean I know that. Did he will be there for the biggie. Yeah I mean and like Lil Kim and Faith Evans will be there as well. I would assume hey imagine for biggie. and it just. I mean with Biggie. Even Whitney their influence was so vast that it truly feels like anyone can do it right like anyone who want who wraps wraps owes something to Biggie and then any any like pop singer hot vocalist. Whether it's you know Arianna Guerande Guerande or I mean I can't pull name because it's Mariah Araya I mean I don't know how good is mariah performing live. She's not very good at it but she left her in Dr Diva. I'd just yeah I feel like she would maybe choose not to. She's are you saving up for voice for when she's addicted love for you and it definitely feels like Arianna `grande an interesting choice would be to have Dolly Parton Martin. I was just thinking that Houston arrangements so much as she could pull off of it also you know at the second peak of her powers hours Dolly Parton absolutely moment and right now. She's a podcast. Right yeah podcast. But and then also she's just she's it's been kind of like bubbling back into pop culture recently but she has definitely kind of really peaked recently. I think we've reached peak Dali as far as its pardon mania out there and I don't excitement but I think that would be wonderful if she performed I. I'd love to see Jay Z.. Be Parliamentary we talked about that because they were they went to the same high school together and you know they songs longs together in and it feels like he picked up the torch. The torch from those guys who does the Whitney tribute. Okay do remember going down this particular trip where I basically started listing every you realize that you realize if ever there was a moment to get Jay z the end beyond say there Whitney at the same time come on also a MO money Mo problems with beyond say handling the Dan Arousa Rasa the Diana. Ross who was it faith number who who's saying the No it's on the on the tracks right. Yeah Ah Anyway and then I mean he'd probably get involved. If you more money more problems right. He does one of the verses Ebba. Didn't he didn't use any approach. I wonder if he left that whole life behind interesting Mo- salvation from Have you have you talked about. I don't WanNa rehashing you talked about. WHO WOULD DO T. Rex? Yeah also feels vast British person. I mean it feels so foo foo fees the Dave Grohl. I know he don't John. We're very close mark. Boland Elton. John I could see Elton John Being maybe John will handle the induction. We talked about Ringo to. Oh Yeah. We're in their movie break but back to I just love imagining all these people. Flying into Cleveland it. It makes me saw. Aw happy to just fuck in we get an rem reunion for the T.. Rex and the those guys really like everyone from like oasis. This to the smiths is DEF LEPPARD. I mean Joe Elliott. Has I mean during his speech last year and during even the package last year t rexes his mentioned by name. Yeah so he really who. Also I'm so I really went through a T. Rex phase. He's a few years ago and I'm so I you know Jamison. Are you coming with us to the ceremony. But you should. It's in Cleveland. I my wife's my wife's from Cleveland. I yeah maybe I will. I mean it would be well. You should come okay all right. I mean don't no no guarantee eastbound look into it and honestly I was. I was going to you know not to get him. I don't care but it'd be like you know if if like when Weezer gets in. That's it's all of our friends damn but I know I definitely year that I will be going and this year I was like Edo Seaney Dot. It was like. Well you know I did have thought of well. T. Rex biggie. When Houston Holly? My wife would go because of Whitney. Houston T. Rex. She'd be like Oh as dot but rex. Yeah I think perfect World Elton John does children are the Revolution Lucien that particular song. Few Jam Song Out. Yeah and because. Also there's a lot is if they have the vocalists Kalisz in for the Whitney stuff you know you can really do. Some great harmonies on that so lovely. Joe Elliott's Metal Guru. You know I mean I'm just a now now I'm getting excited now Now folks I hope you're feeling the MONIS perfect I booked is at the ARC. Ah Gambling hotels at the arcade in downtown Cleveland. Great and I'm going to open. I just booked shopping at the farmers. The West side the farmer's market and Cleveland. Okay see you in Cleveland Jamison. Thank you for joining us. Yes it was a lot of fun. Hey it was great. You're so happy to have you back And we will see you in Cleveland. Anything you'd like to plug anything you got coming up your your social media or whatever just for now there's some fun stuff in the works and I hope you all stay tuned. You can find out about it by following me on twitter at Jamison Web J. M. I. S. O. N. W. E. E. B. The extra B. is for boy loved up to follow him on twitter. Good work you can also find Jamieson jeopardy episode on Daily Motion Some Weird Virgin Upload the episode a lot of fun ads around December December. Twenty seven two thousand. Nineteen if you're looking for it and you can of course follow us at ruckle pod on twitter and Instagram instagram. You can follow me at Okay Fall Kristen at case that across all platforms. I will be at the club cafe in Pittsburgh on March six. So if you're there in my hometown please come out and check my butt out Email us at ruckle pot at G MAIL DOT COM. 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"dave shilling" Discussed on Rock N Roll Archaeology

Rock N Roll Archaeology

02:48 min | 1 year ago

"dave shilling" Discussed on Rock N Roll Archaeology

"Some people. You'll be very excited about that. I think it's great. It's fine I don't care at all like like that's nice for them. Yeah it's weird. It was it was a surprise to see that on the list of inductees for twenty twenty. I love to imagine engine Jon Landau pretended to be surprised. Me You Guy Acecomm lives. Who did this come on? Who did this says? I swear I said don't do it. I said don't don't give me the award but they did. Oh God I just have the best staff the greatest staff in in the world but yeah. That's it so there you go that that fully rounds out the class of twenty twenty why. It's so funny. This has been public information. I was like I wonder if Kristen saw. Aw It's like there's no way there's absolutely no way dark and it wouldn't even have to say nope especially because I've been off twitter for over a month now and it has been then. Yeah I'll go on there occasionally like onto the website twitter dot com laptop. I don't have the APP on Mike von Sometimes if somebody tweets at me. I'll get a toxin telling me that I'll go look and speaking of tweeting you can. Of course tweet at us at rock hall pod D- You can also email us. Rocco pod at G. L. Dot Com where Elsa Rock Hall pod on Instagram. Kristen your case that across all platforms. That is correct. Will you can and follow me on twitter at Joe Cage. Okay on Instagram at joke. Hey why don't you do favor. Subscribe to US and Apple. PODCAST that rate in review US give us five stars only would also love that. We've gotten some very nice reviews. Recently thank you for those. It really helps us to get reviews at helps in like the algorithm and in that kind of Shit for us to pick up more listeners to be seen and heard that all anybody really wants if you review as he would mean a a lot to us if you leave a review because of this episode suggest what I should have changed my name to before it was too late I was gonNA say maybe Chase dynamite office and maybe double bonus if you think. That's what I should have changed names to do. I thought of chased dynamite wells. Looking at Kristen's is so maybe that's what was going on. I think he might Lloyd for the logo used to Kim for the music. They could enjoy the equipment. figured a chat Briggs Dave shilling for lettings record in the home that I share with them and as always thinking Pantheon podcast hosting us. That will do it for this week to see next week. What we're talking about? I don't know I have. I have no. I have an idea that come next week. I'm joke as I'm concerned and Saturday. He cares.

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"dave shilling" Discussed on The Masked Man Show

The Masked Man Show

04:09 min | 3 years ago

"dave shilling" Discussed on The Masked Man Show

"The early they have the they have they have stroman in their back pocket if the crowder just totally shitting on roman reigns that night right the ultimate money matches for roman to win the belts at summer slam and then for stroman to chase him until wrestlemainia but he's got the briefcase now so it doesn't make any sense if he doesn't cash in the first time brock lessner shows up on television yeah that's the tricky part if he doesn't shape he doesn't catch in when he cuts promo in the ring his credibility goes down the toilet yeah i think that's true i'm not really i mean yeah i mean braun strowman yeah i am trying to i'm trying to think work this through in k fehb he's going to get title shots and yeah i guess i guess that you you got to i mean why not just get your first win as easily as possible you'll new you're going to have to fight roman reigns again after that but who cares so it's going to be interesting you're right to watch how this happens it's also kind of interesting in we're gonna talk about this weekend's extreme rules pay per view it just a little bit but it finally feels my crazy to say it finally feels like raw has has figured like found its footing and the absent it's not just it's not a show that's just about an absent an offscreen champion anymore now it feels like it's actually a show that that has its own steaks their their personal issues with with everybody they're they're putting out great wrestling matches i think the rollins mcintyre match was really good they loved to close out the show there's not a lot of brock listener talk on raw so if you know out of sight outta mind basically i don't have to think about the fact that this red monstrosity not the person but the belt is on the show it almost doesn't matter because you're interested in the characters in what happens to them it's compelling without needing the belts and that's what they bet on when they didn't do the switch wrestlemainia or in saudi arabia is we got enough interesting characters from your from seth rollins if in ballard to to roman reigns to break y at to matt hardy all these people who cares leave him off in in in milk this long as you can try to pop a big big number be subscri options on the network or a big rating or whatever it is when leser does show up yeah i agree i mean i it's it's a very interesting calculus and and we'll see i mean i i don't think that i don't think that i think that'd be if w looks at this is a is a positive this whole ufc thing and i and i know that they do then i don't think the wrong but it will be sort of interesting it will be it'll be interesting to see how they how they how this plays out that's it i mean it's they have to they have the ability to something really cool and they got a but it's going to be very difficult to get it just right but that's you know true of a lot of things all right we're going to talk about extreme rules we're going to talk about ron smackdown i guess a little bit in passing but first dave shilling i'm going to see the florida wait am i seeing the florida you if you'd like show her we have a very we have there's very big announcement and that is yes do you wanna go this is uncomfortable for both of us as poss wrap it up make out now we have to end oh sorry jim just said the announcement is that jim has been fired or he'll producer jean out not just that but he's about to be executed behind the ringer offices you'll or fired no i wish it was that it's not shoemaker you you've moved to new york city thanks for taking the apple yeah yeah yeah i retired spent i had two good years working working in l a but i'm not leaving the.

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"dave shilling" Discussed on Channel 33

Channel 33

01:51 min | 4 years ago

"dave shilling" Discussed on Channel 33

"That i was we'll watch was so remote control my hand after it actually happens very quickly going to be like three hours on who do you think is going to bring him out ish off now it's good to get a to take they get a jay craig there's do somebody was like actually yeah yeah someone that he saved jay could be good they go we had a yeah there is earl word we're missing a million thanks ever on the back on run next week which a low excitement seven talk to a guy who read the same injury recently and what it's a house in to come back as like how quickly were huge is a walking around he was like was walking around like five days later but like i was like you know i was on my moxie around with my hands alexi in table and then on the so and then on the team you know whatever like he was and it took somehow he said even for him it took him you know like five to six months before he was comfortable doing stuff but he's not the crested she's is nine is nine he was wearing a knee brace any wasn't getting paid lots of money exactly that's a really an unofficial bowling of the of the situation i see is a seemed hungry to turn is deftly coming back to back to roster that there are call there will be their next week i know that i i actually didn't re new thing with a rock thing we can talk more about the rock next week of people of questions about it's like hit me up and it dave up on twitter was questions for we're going to sir yeah your that's i want to start hearing from you about questions you have about the red amassed one does now that david shoemaker your wide bad dave underscore showing underscore that's a terrible gimmick i couldn't get that dave chilling there were there was a time simmons tweeted out me and it was the thirty i had dave shilling and boy did he get a lot of notification no allen the power of social media you know i thing underscored be agree wrestlers nickname.

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