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ET - Dave Navarro + Stephen Pearcy

The Eddie Trunk Podcast

1:19:32 hr | 1 year ago

ET - Dave Navarro + Stephen Pearcy

"Eighty three Eddie truck has been the voice for fans of rock hard rock and heavy metal of bestselling author host of TV's that Metal Shell and seven national thank you for listening to this podcast one production available on apple podcasts and podcast one since nineteen shrunk nation daily on volume before we get to the interview this week and it's a good one and it's an interesting one and it's a lengthy one I do want who knows what else so welcome to the any trunk podcast by a great event in Los Angeles on November seventh for the Do Cancer Fund our latest bowling event for charity and then of course the Big Foam Hen show uh on Sunday in Houston Texas at the Car Bach Brewery so that's some of the stuff in the immediate future like I said follow on social media can download Pluto TV for free on all of your favorite devices today including your phone Roku Amazon Fire TV apple TV SMART TV the ship at the time you're hearing this though probably getting ready to do the last broadcast from the ship as the cruise comes into port tomorrow and then I'll be going you go away to watch your favorite TV shows and hit movies for free so what are you waiting for never pay for TV again by downloading Pluto TV can't all completely free Pluto TV never asked for a credit card you don't even need to sign up to watch for Free Pluto TV is the easy and completely Lee Close out a really crazy stretch of travel and stuff going on and more coming up including eighties in the sand is coming and Punta Cana followed wait coming to you for another week and at the time you hearing this I'm on board the first ever mega cruise which unfortunately is not featuring megadeath twitter at Eddie trunk for Info and updates at trunk dot com all my appearances on the homepage for up to the second news and Info as I'm getting ready to on one zero six daily to four pm eastern time live replay every night ten to midnight eastern also get you updated there and I'll be doing some broadcast check the homepage of Eddie Trunk Dot Com for phone updates and as usual all of the interviews you here on my podcast every week are courtesy of my Sirius Xm showed over to Tulsa where I'll be hosting a show with last in line at the ballroom and then from there it goes and goes and goes follow on about Pluto TV because Bhutto TV is the leading free streaming television service where you can watch over one hundred TV channels and thousands of movies on demand he's playstation and anywhere else you stream so I made a trip to Los Angeles fairly last minute fairly unexpectedly about a week apple podcasts be sure to download and subscribe and stream and favorite and all the things you do with the podcast thank you for listening wherever whenever and however you hey everybody welcome to another episode of the trump podcast which is new every Thursday via podcast one dot com and of course today's mistakes health but I'll give you a full report on everything that went down on it when I am back from the cruise if you're a regular listener of my Sirius Xm Show on volume yeah ago about a week and a half ago just had come from there and turned around and went right back for some stuff at the new Sirius Xm studio and one of the shows that I did there and we're able to pull together sort of real last minute was a show with Stephen Pierce of rat as you may even know them like I do when it comes to these guys they still WanNa do stuff for under the advice of their handlers they wanna do stuff that time they've got a release or something to promote and honestly up sorry I'm just dropping stuff here honestly that that's pretty maddening because Dave Navarro of Jane's addiction together now unfortunately this kind of stuff doesn't happen all that much most of the time when artists do interviews as you that it's always a lot of fun and that's exactly what you're about to hear was pierce and Navarro knew each other I don't think extremely well and what happened was I tweeted out that Stephen and Dave we're both going to be on the show and then they started tweeting that thing to have to sell in that pressure to sell it's fun to just hang and when you get the opportunity it's so many of these guys who just great rock fans it's just so much fun to just have them kick it and hang out and talk and tell stories you don't always need to have Charles that they'd like to do a song together and we had some fun and at the end of the interview they played an acoustic take of lack of communication and unfortunately due to the rules of podcasting and publishing we will not be able to air that portion for you but that's all the more reason idea of them just hanging out in the studio telling stories Dave Navarro Stephen Pierce E. together really was a blast and you'll get to hear that conversation on this week applete interviews each and every day and obviously musical performances when we have them so this was a lot of fun this happened completely organically the well you should be a Sirius. 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Dave Navarro of Jane's Addiction. Dave Eddie Trunk podcast so let's get to it because it's a fun one and not a lot to tell you here at the top but want to get you to this interview because I think you're GONNA end for coming in relatively early here by La Standards No I'm actually up at like four am every day but you've been spending a lotta time on the East Coast Yeah but I wake up oh trunk nation on volume in our La Studios about a week a week and a half ago so enjoy on the trunk podcast in corner so filling out this form and the survey will really help us cater to the needs of you the listener and direct products to you that you would be much more interested in so please the TV show ink master which hosts also talks in the interview about thinking about doing a solo record Stephen Pierce with the new lineup of rat that he's out there working go to podcast one dot com slash survey answer those questions potentially make some money along the way and thanks for being a dedicated listener to the trunk podcast we talk a little bit about that but really just a fun hang of Dave who's clearly a rat fan and Stephen having some fun with Dave and it all went down on my show yeah you just add about two hours lucky last night yeah me too but for reasons unrelated to they were doing work around my hotel outside isn't that amazing how many as stephen during the chase the hotel out nice things happened like consistently two people stand different hotels every night and we have a we we have a books between us were you guys just played this past weekend in Oklahoma Grand Casino yes and I was there a week before I texted you because I was Varo is here to see you my man yes and to my right is our good friend that was just on with us from the rainbow not too long ago Mr Stephen Peercy of rat Elo thank you on the lamp shades you know and with the strangest one had to be whoever took my room after I left of just only hotel room incidents really oh yeah what what was the strangest one slots on the the lamp snot would of maybe dirt or something that had formed on the ceiling and on closer inspection it was black mold and that's not good you wanted died so I can see what it looks like outside before the sun really starts being aggressive you wake up Europe early to Oh yeah really yeah we don't sleep one ladies and gentlemen it thrilled that there's cameras in here that he didn't end this was not this was not in the agreement three camera shoot Stephen can attest how many times have you been in hotels and the fire alarm has gone off l. man you have to leave and finally just don't leave anymore yeah right yeah many many many men after years years walk into stuff like bodies dead people crime scenes like complete people shouldn't you know yeah people doing fetish shit there a week prior because I did something with deep purple at a different place there but in that town and I'm in my room and it's very nice place I'm not disparaging the venue or the the rooms but I will say in the bed and I'm looking up by the vent and I see like what I thought was a cloud as I keep my shit tight you know what I mean and then 'cause I figure the more the more organized I am in my room the less likely I am to leave something in there visting system man I wasn't on the road I was I used to stay at hotels who are no I I had a house he lives I had a house hotel they gave me the game the heads up I said hey it's a really nice place but my room had black mold in it but it's it's slightly metal though right isn't there okay I had a house but I would just always stay in hotel I do that just just destroy him you know close the bar down at four in the nine the hotel destroyers after the fact yeah hindsight but we weren't like out like Hey let's be punk rock and destroy a hotel we just had people over after the show and he got out of hand room out and bouncing makes us look like lightweights and they're like arms you're we we think you're the greatest you know what I mean every customer Oh you mean it happened but it wasn't premeditated and it wasn't premeditated you did it though well I mean you just get sloppy because wor yeah you know out of Control I would say that we store and I just I find that to be the most peaceful time there's no phones there's no there's nothing going on I can chill I can smoke outside you can make a painting God's iron maiden things just a squash that once well we did the last top twenty was iron maiden and you had said what a big iron maiden yeah you guys ever in the back in the good old days where you guys ever hotel room destroyers did you go through that ritual at some point Stephen Now it just happens you know it just happened they are well here's the here's a secret is you get tight with housekeeping and they know everything the era I think about the show they walk into every day not even from like guys like us they they will certain sensory city no no century here's an invited me neither I don't Wanna I had to do it there why I don't know I just had the urge because he was our mutual buddy who he and I always say it's any iron maiden song is better than most but for iron maiden if I'm going to judge them against themselves it's not a great like here's the deal I'm okay and I promised answer the phone so you don't have to worry if that's your thing but if you're going to worry then I got all like Alan on where is it not Brentwood where the president stays all the time in L. A. At one hotel Elton I don't I don't know down because I had too much information then you're gonNA worry that's on you you have the choice whether or not you want to choose to put that in your life and I got all heady on he's that was the big the big thing for me was like all right you guys can reach me I'll answer my cell phone and you can get a hold of me but I'm not telling you and then coming off the walls and lampshades or anybody ever do the TV out the window bit I have that riot house the riot back in the day and it was cool which is called what the end is or something this is probably not interesting for your listeners but if you wanna get into that on the throne televisions out of my own window out of my house twenty about Stevens is he's born and raised southern California hotel you're why we're even in a hotel I used to like madness I'm sorry I don't play with matches let me let me ask you this so dave you were saying that you would go see rat back in I am really Oh yeah for months at a time because you were getting higher suck yet I know you weren't yeah the deal was like to my family and friends collusive Bruce's favorite song do okay backing out the fact that I didn't have armageddon married or were you okay with much of the other list once blackmore I'm saying that's the new new bands yes I gave you the heads up and say hey so you don't you don't know what are bedbugs still a finger nothing's going on I get it it's okay but I I always have time to write down twenty things right who doesn't have time for that so I apologize so I get Eddie's master compiled lists my personal with the graphics and this is what Eddie thinks this is how it should be and I'm looking I'm looking I'm looking at my what are you GonNa first four albums pretty much the whole way I'll I will I will go up to power slave you'll go through power sleep Hallier okay all right aces high and right Sheikh or would you like to say to say about the list is I saw your list and I I apologize to you and the show I was supposed to submit a list right so that was bowie tribute the other night with my above ground organization all the proceeds go to mental health and for rock and roll suicide the last song got into the past power slave stuff there wasn't even much of that but like wasting a great Song Morello into the phone I'll honor you and I'll let you know okay but I ain't telling you where am I being argyle I'd be at At the height house whatever just chilling a day in the club's when was the first your first memory of seeing Pearson rat well I saw rat in the Troubadour I saw rat lottery at the rocks obviously I only knew him on that month that we spend in treatment together but that was really sad when he went and we just we just did this you claim to be the seventh member of the band I don't blame it I am you are the seven member of they don't know they know they know they know so what what would be do you have a list or no and it came out we couldn't hear them and so we went to the story of the day came out and it was like oh out of the cellar yes a lot more sense so back in those days I used to go see rat and then sadly many years later I ended up in Rehab my roommate was Robbin crosby yeah not play with matches that's all burn this thing down the PSA children yes befriended each other. Oh Yeah I mean they stuck us in the same room because we were musicians we had guitars and you're in you know you know in the same field arose out on the I think that's yeah yeah you're right when but I don't know anything all I know is like don't play with matches is one of them looked at each other and he's like it's called album seller guys are really confident about this is going to be great I can't wait for album seller oh means they're just not the most except now it's a it's a whole new ballgame with the new guys you know so how long have you been doing how long does this lineup you've got a year and a half we showed all of our lost friends and Robin was among them yeah wait so we gave a little tribute to him about two weeks ago during Robin Pass Away Hey this is is just in high school and it was before out of the cellar came out yeah the eighty three okay so it was eighty three right and they know out of the cellar was about to come out and give you a numbers Steven you said to me on more than one occasion that went robin went at that that's what you felt really changed the whole sort of balance of rat that it was a it was really yes of course a personal thing for his family and friends but as far as the band itself that that was a real sort of game changer for the hit for the path of the band can you elaborate on that yeah well I mean what I heard I just went for a walk into said well that's that chapter is never going to be the same we at the rainbow when we talk for the listeners that don't know talk about the other three guys that are in the band now you've got Pete Holmes on drums he's a monster from a black and blue is there with my high school friends and you know Steven his live and he's like new record coming on you would do whatever your voice is yeah I don't even know the seller and we couldn't hear him we go out and Jack off you know so to speak and keep the brand going and pretty much did that in many stupid ways yeah got floored me is obviously Mario a world class player in his own right but he had another young guy on stage with them playing Dr who he gave a and they felt that you know we would gel gel and we did and he was just the sweetest guy yeah and you know I never I never knew him loaded on ah yeah so we were we were struggling are addictions together he was a great support a great system of support from me we were for each other actually so you you'd blue Jordan blue these crazy crazy good Jordan south on guitars Jordan also played I mean we're we're not the most dysfunctional ban by any means but we were dysfunc- so yeah I mean they're saying that they're not the most dysfunctional band you were in Rehab in early one thousand nine hundred ninety so like we're in like I don't I've lost decades in my life since then so it's it's hard for me to Han of Leeway to really showcase this guy and I was like man not only is this guy unbelievable bun how incredibly cool is it for Mardi no no you know warns worn he's great he's he's one of the most amazing guitar players I've played with him a bunch of time with Warren Yeah and one of the Nice on studio and found him liked him right away we went through a bunch of people when he popped in there and just plugged in and it was like Whoa you know it's awesome Han but he I before Jordan was with you guys I went to see Mardi here at the whiskey and he was playing with him and he was playing with them and the treatment to say hey no you take any minutes and go you know I'm GonNa give you the spotlight and I mentioned that tomorrow and it's him it's the guy you're now he's crazy I call him kid me about that story adding that you're telling is that it sounds like this guy is already halfway there in terms of consciousness in terms of like understanding the giving from the fans you know I call friends fans that they love him The kid you know right so a within Marty Friedman's me Yes yes no anybody's seen Mardi play who's come over here he's played a couple of times Done American tourist because more dealers and it looks like a kid how did you find him you didn't see him playing with Marty did you start dishing people you know and people came a knockin and went through the system you know I don't believe those two thousand seven no I couldn't tell you actually yeah I it was ninety seven I don't know Stephen US ro and so many others that loved rat also loved the Band because of Warren's guitar playing and his Solos in his playing and it was brought to the band have you felt like your take all over any kid. I mean I met that Guy Chris in Europe at a festival we were doing and they okay his more important than receiving and he somebody yeah yeah so that's that's that's half the game took me twenty five years learn that you're you're already ahead of the curve not all on the bad things and yeah so it's good now you know as well as anybody 'cause you're not done by any stretch that a guy like David I can rhyme in the this was going going to them right away no rhyme of ancient mariners I was the one that got killed on the Albatross falls from his neck kind of I'm sure there's still people like wears Warren whereas warrant you feel like you're getting past that actually I think they're getting past that WHO's not too much questioning from I'm Chris Sanders on guitar who is looking back guys selfish secondary disguise I my expanded view without knowing any of the people or the details my during okay my theory would a year and a half and you feel good about it you feel the the fan reaction is good everything's great building taking small steps because of my knee next year will be the full whammy radio shows including trump nation daily on Sirius. Xm Interesting Eddie offers the world is news making interviews passionate analysis honest commentary and go back to the don't go there goes back to the probing now goes back to read the Chateau and priory of science stuff that I can't get into this hundreds and hundreds Warren's like you know kind of into his family trip and that's I envy that man I don't know he doesn't that's the word that's the story I'm putting out world mega whatever you WANNA call it hopefully not the last Hurrah an issue and it's you want we talked about the album it when you guys were apps again show here show there may be two four month right now that I'm how you doing with your knees good I'm about ninety five percent how long are you with it I'm writing Modem sure one is Jordan's but as far as you've track stuff if you recall oh we're going to be doing it soon enough okay did that that's right where were these ceremonies of some sort of liberty to discuss that bad blood or would that is pushing it and the rat dave yeah I got a check with the Bruce in the boys but you'll be sure your free because I'm also in slipknot one of the masks that's fine I just wrote that you can use the fact Jack have you thought about New Music we are recording music a couple of new songs Oh happens out there soon his girlfriend that not all on me well I'm just saying not hard to weaken the knees around her right that's years old Eddie and just leave it where it is all right Stephen what's coming up with the band what he's got going on well we're just doing the you know baby the band that has a bunch at least five or more members Dave is one of them well no no no I have to I have to ask to be have to be asked to be joined as an honorary member you can't claim Bruce has to invite you in as an honorary member that happened for you with me right and then Taylor has bite you in as an honorary memory here it is he came to an audition I'm like we know each other and he just worked as a that guys it's him he's like dislike Robin type guy exempt these no no when I went I went out I was about eighty yet l. do you know why do you know why he's having problems with his knees no it's the defunct so part but it's all good you guys need me as a counselor I'll come in there we do that you're going to say third guitar we actually tried seven seven I'm whatever however number however many numbers have your the other one twelve yeah how many eleven eleven thirteen and see what happens all right if it's groovy then we'll go for the full lambing you know all right I'm into a fucking rat is not going away you can't exterminator I think you know know next year for the big who did you a full you want full album no no we're going to take a different approach ago put a couple of songs out there for some weird like maybe we didn't play together that much which is really odd there was there was one show that I saw but it might have been bigger than but I know that I was seeing Japan's mainland when there was the universal amphitheater there were shows right right you know so like back in those days is near a band tried I also was excuse me view it started it started in San Diego Seventy seven seventy seven so we've gone on your radar a few years later when I believe I saw you guys also was the guy who got to the GIG three in the afternoon and waited to meet with the dudes like bloating in and stuff there you go you know I had to learn how to play guitar listening that record trying to figure out how he tuned it down trying to figure out all that stuff as a kid so we started a new band and the record comes talk talk a little bit Dave when you first saw rat that whole scene that was going on here in La Stephen e you for presents an evening with the progressive box tickling the ivories he just saved by bundling home and auto in my S- thank you Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates discounts available in all states or situations ask the starlight loud anymore than all right let's get a break we'll come back a little more with Dave and Stephen is the Eddie Trunk Pod even though I was going to be here let alone you guys know you're going to be here and then the idea to jam some songs came through social media when I tweeted that both of you are going to buy show the next week they spent yeah yeah isn't it isn't it ironic that the very man who taught me to play guitar later replaced try come back I want to get a few more things from Stephen Pierce Dave Navarro hanging out and you're going to have speaking of bands we are going to be introducing to the world the brand with progressive gonNA finally barring that Gal of Yours Hugo send my condolences this nice crossover with Van Halen at all back in the day or were they already on their way when they had just started seeing them a friend of mine tip kept telling the I remember his name I don't know I forgot about him. Spongy drummer exploded. I can't see myself missing Warren when I met Dave it was a conversation that was so am a weird fucking guy yeah right but it was so like stream they were both dysfunctional like that I think we're too old to break up this hiatus no but I said h us you know what I mean we don't break up anymore never played before debuting we're evolving as your debut in us and I said so tone down the exciting broken up by the time the show ends mind consciousness and like I got knowledge a lot to say and I can't have a conversation with him that midgets don't come up in conversation somehow and then you Dave said we gotta do something anything because rat was that was that band like Warren's guitar playing Rabbi bought that record and I brought it home and the after them it's gone crazy man look at first amendment really read it do you feel freedom of speech do you feel freedom of religious crazy with Motley crue at one of the local clubs yes play together with the crew back then we did a couple or maybe there was a San San Santa Monica civic show Alar Halen only yeah I love Sammy and I'm friends with Sammy and I've played with Sammy but as van Halen deal are only I can I can help it you know what I mean and the new band that's my English arrogant rockstar story and we're already beautiful lead singer right stolen is lead singer Supergroup let me let me just a few you know when you wouldn't even hands you a demo tape and explains now it's not the right mix it's a trust yeah we ah just our first amendment is being trashed it's insane people express their religious concerns ridges believes there it's mob mentality smokey joint until my book and he's like yeah and I wanted to meet Edgar because I was more of a guitar player singer Guy than and gone at some point we're gonNA that's called I hate the backstory before you guys came in about the do women really want equality when it comes to the manhole we're really gonNA make you got your gender all these letters gender-neutral hole with a statement good point because those are all people do allowed in under our constitution able to make vote they shot outside the box they lost the men were allowed to express what we believe right right so in terms of saying the wrong vernacular every once in a while forgive me for not instantly knowing if we have a view we vote that said I'm not here to hate on anybody's politics I'm not here to hate on in administration there's no go see this band playing bizarre they play Zeppelin and really good though Siham and I missed him and then he said no now they're at the whisky ago it's like the big place unlearn forty years of language your day to go with the flavor of the week in I think I believe in San Francisco the it wasn't this segment and Wayne's world manhole or toolbox or something I have no idea like really the thing is like did you a favor because I I met Dave and listen I'm a I'm a diehard he he'll tell you die hard d finished low and I just wrapped fourteen I think yeah I don't know oh thirteen just finished airing and there's one there's one there's one can okay and then we're doing another one so yeah that's my life is very busy so I spend a lot of time in New York shooting that so I'm actually buying a property in Portland Oh hate and what I talk about I talk about what I see solutions and that's it wouldn't because because you can't you can't alienate half the country I know under what you're known for is the guy from the guy from Jane's addiction the guy that rat that's the that's the the misrepresentation I guess people just expect that soon it would be rt and acoustic and not huge and that's okay with me my days of pursuing the cameras and the lenses music and art and just place to get away from the insanity of both cities but how about playing are you what what do you got coming you got any music coming I'd like to do a solo record Russian that goes to the homeless immediately and actually goes to people on the ground so if someone asks me for stickers or whatever I'm sure and you know Dave you blew me off anyway after he got to join and so he took my way I'm going to see Ed let me tell you something let me tell you something Oh really yeah in the middle of name Oregon okay it spend spend time in the middle of forest with nothing but just healing and nature and they have passed a law where you're not allowed to say manhole anymore yep it's utility this year it's not a law but yet so utility hauling God anyway why did we with the van Halen really seventy eight I'd say you know what you're a diehard man any links Dune teach you did you safe but do something yeah no it's a major issue especially here in California near Los Angeles specifically everywhere let's grab a few calls for Dave Navarro and Stephen The lights are fading you know what I mean like Perry wants to do a show or of a royal machines wants to do a show or something sounds fun to me I'll do it but I'm not like I'm I got this video coming out you're going to see it as midgets in all right you gotta own one you know I'm not making fun of midgets don't want to say the word midget small that's not me I'm here let me address that what's going on within the you know this Guy Society today with this you know this stuff or you can't say this you can't say that you can't say this can are you still got to give it to him for voting and participating so now what we're still people were still stuck forget I couldn't agree with you more let me Dave on your musical side of things jumping in talking about his voice there are these guys out there when you hear them you know exactly who it is super identifiable so minute you hear Stephen Singer no you don't because everything you do there's opposition if you haven't NFL guy come out and say Yeah I say a prayer every time I do a thing people like how dare you push the Christianity on the youth so I drove up on myself and I went okay same thing go backstage weight and I parked my car and I waited and I saw dave go up the stairs and I yelled at him but we have the new bands you know the route addiction that album comes out and he's a recorded it yet but it comes out next week also was stephen as lyricist and your vocal chords in a way that would be straining and harmful but you don't seem to have a problem you know it just sounds how it sounds here's what I'll say about that hey hey dave Stephen peercy wow as a teenager my idol so this is a unique pleasure for me to get to talk to you so it's not a man all gender neutral it's just a whole rat hole I stay in the rattle out of the politics and all people I mean come on listen alright talking fuck you WanNa let me let me address that let me address the whole like you can't say this you can say as a kid to singing did you was there people you were hearing would something that shaped you roberts plants but see that that's interesting because you sound like Robert Plant taking myself seriously as a singer I don't if I might chime in I think what if I might add I think what he's talking about is if listener It sounds like you're using AH question that I had was I've always loved your style of singing like it's more like a vocalist nation and I wanted to know how you develop that thing and they gave it away Dave didn't give it away give it away give it away I'm giving examples of your own story it's not exactly unique that somebody who's in it's influenced by plant page or anyone for lime actually only into bands in her influence Miami I hate supplement into Greta van fleet you what what are you know you talk because you were doing ink master you still doing it what were you at now with your projects ink master thirteen just you're the cost of it is put a dollar in the next jar or if it safe hand a homeless guy a dollar don't go wandering into a tent city and make yourself that sound to you or or and I even when I write solo music it sounds like that anyway 'cause I co writer writer of of rap music so data's hey that's a good title titled Or New Record I hate it I can't take full credit you guys were talking earlier with Stephen Pierce and Dave Navarro what's going on Keith Kit with the pre order the album I hate us I see no they really don't have a new band together this just kind of happened hey don't follow and organically and here they are at hanging out we're having a good time here on don't blow our dream well you never know Amazon go by the real thing and not streaming so right on we appreciate it but the album comes out next week and then we're we're only selling it for one day thank you in other words CDs nuts thank you appreciate it man. This is Keith In Maryland KIEF is up next trek with like organizations to bring awareness to mental health and domestic violence and and feeding the homeless problem we have all I do is if I'm if I'm selling art a singer that's his art I have a you know I don't know what else do you do on your own time I know you're an artist as well but a million things that I also turned to that I find fulfilling and right now I'm doing a lot of work it's like boom you know that's to curse to sometimes when the solo music and whatever else like that what's there was there somebody that you modeled your your your approach over here so maybe maybe later if it all works out so what they do is they should work on it to even after the show they should communicate with each other and record it talk to record though Yeah Mark did that answer your question kind of it did and and Steven if you guys put out a CD they just started I have never tried in interesting ways over the years so you never know mark in Detroit Pay Mark Style and if you've ever had any problems with it I always problems by forgetting words listen that but you know I don't know I just I I've early and I wonder if Steve You're welcome I wonder Stephen would entertain the thought of singing been called ceiling I hear it yeah I hear it in the high register when he hit some of the high register stuff Yup and Alice Cooper and and you know Eric Bloom spy but I'd have to learn it to I'd have to learn for the right price I can remember it on my all time favorite bands and nothing shocking is one of my all time favorite album so this is definitely double dipping I hope you do come on again you really facebook well I well the only reason I facebook is because that's the only one my dad still you know Oh yes AH kingdom com roy thing fans bands that sound like step one going going off a few things and there was a news post about Steve Perry doing another record now Steve Perry was on this show when his last record one one what's that other bands sounded like Zeppelin Lenny wiped or Lenny Wolf that's kingdom Cardinal Company you're not looking to get from the ground up and like you know what I mean well it's it's brutal I mean it's Br I mean Steve was just so I mean just just trying to get out from radio show of course but here's the deal for because my schedule has been so busy I have not I used to love going into the mentions and responding to sorry buddy another time visit yes the problem we'll learn it for next take full credit but I think that's what royalties points whatever you want we'll go with that title two men as males and females as a women and someone like yeah exactly I don't even fuck you should decide if he wants to go out and play live because that's really where the businesses if you really going to advance my God do you said that on twitter on you wouldn't believe Whoa that's interesting it is interesting who's your show that would be cool I was actually going to bring it up we had more time probably would've twelve months people because you know it's great to communicate with people care about what you do and have a back and forth but playing into what you said before earlier about the hyper-sensitive you can't say that big fan you know down huck and Robert Plant like all I can do on twitter is get myself in trouble I get a lot of my news from twitter to like information things I follow not even music related stuff so I don't know everybody's got their gone yet so he knows what I'm up to so I leave that for him but you know just some chicken too many winters the one that I like we'll give you an example it's funny you bring this up because you guys I think Stephen Dodd what do you think what do you think the real story was and all I did was simply respond to that post and say you know it's great we got Steve Back it was honored of them on the show he's really going to have to at some point all that stuff and come close to the which is why I always said I mean Stephen you can speak to this but to me it bums me out that rat is in yes you can't say that there was like I was on the plane last night okay got six hours to kill finally got a chance to talk to a couple of people that follow me Peter is the biggest following and what I personally liked doing the best and where I'm by far the most active right and we're update everybody what's going on this is how this happened to especially especially for a daily right very much in them all the way into it I'm on the right side you're on the left side I'm not me either on the side of this connects if Davis was playing some enormous Dome Right now whip out been caught stealing in two seconds dome well you and Molly were it to do all that you guys appreciate it I appreciate I think there are others but that's you know that's cool thanks personally I mean I I I don't know I've done what I've wanted to do you don't kill you always just you know you're just you know that's why I like doing solo records and Scott at all we've already we're way ahead of you I'll be sending me both a message on twitter updates on I hate us time yes sweet did we have some like I'm saying early if you're listening to show the beginning we have the boss grand plans for going need to be don't WanNa always have a picture read but I don't want to be asleep your business it makes sense no I'm saying for your business make sense to me like you know because of all the changes in the band over the years no we had our you know ten years of course like you know what we think some great shows so eerie she's right here Robbin Crosby I'm like Oh my God dude wow that's that's really weird do you ever look anywhere like see him plan or like a certain movie might he's thank you ricky for the call I didn't know Robbin crosby what was he like as a person I mean obviously he had this giant yeah yeah he was the sweetest guy and he just rat and Motley dominated MTV dominated the airwaves and Motley took on this whole other thing were there you know reenact headlining and all this stuff do you think the all the differences in the lineups and the different eras got really hurt maybe later on but you know it doesn't affect me you know so Stephen Man Molly's pretty much rule the eighties and you'd those two bands were the fucking eighties everybody else was around you guys Lisa Frat to meet more of a guitar player Yeah and you know meeting up going back to that whiskey Gig I was excited to me Ed because I will you know guitars definitely Oh yeah even some of his demeanor is is crazy you know it just when we all got together you know right sure brought a lot in all of just throw it in the pot and see what happens you were saying earlier which I I wasn't really aware of that you considered yourself early on in the day soon as you go through the Senate soon because I'm about to get rid of my twitter altogether center thank you for the call doing my own thing to get my eyes out it's only rant and roll man you know ricky you good well actually going to say I've been seeing I'm friends with join Dan what's Great Greg Houston Greg jumping all good man gave forgive me if I you know in the last five minutes I've been relearned how to speak and I will not to this horsh out there good stay strong Navarro live and breathe you know rap music and our way of life quite softspoken Oh yeah yeah I thought so yeah Stephen a big part of the writing in the band to back in the day it is what it is I mean I don't cry over anything I'm not saying you do but there's a obviously whether it was the the changes in in your bag doc lack of a better term bigger or more revered in that because Dave's right and so as ricky of that scene in the early eighties APPS and we ended up meeting and keeping in touch and go to the shows and I sold them great box thirty that he wanted ahead and yeah we talk about the Kings of rock and roll of the eighties and the scene and I'll leave it at that there you go thank you Steve Looks Great Gambler this up like what just happened are you fucking kidding me you start a firestorm now but now I got I got shit for referring Chris Sanders on facebook Oh yeah I've seen some pitchers he's been tagged in somebody's really good veteran but man there's some that are very paved with don't show and look at those I didn't look at him I didn't cave to it I fuck insiders straight they said listen here's the reality I'm fifty three years old Say here you go back in the day tweet Ramirez from Marilyn Manson and I saw a lot of time together in my house not seeing daylight say back in the day the plastic bachelor good name you had a band with twiggy Ramirez called guitar down get serious how come you never play on stage. I don't want that tour we had just one guitar player but that's not the trip you know Mickey Answer Tall Blonde Blonde Blonde Haired Guy Plan Dr. Interested do you ever in your answer is yes well I have moments here verve can find those man those were those were recording in the days where those computers I don't even I don't even know how I could access those drives anymore wow for you guys want a little no we were definitely not everything else like black and blue everything that came out after that we Milwau- spot that's that's what I'm saying rats on technically rats can be here longer than we are that is true it's that's that's all right all right let's get one really a cover band of iron maiden at half speed the whole every song nice halftime wow which was creepy fucking great one of the things that I remember about that film that struck me and I remember talking to you about it at the time is that there's footage and I don't know if it was twiggy or someone else in the I'm taking it but there's footage of you at the height of your insanity that someone's there shoot filming you in that state who was capturing you know introduce Robin Tomb and just traded off it was great thing called Yeah Yeah do you still play a lot I play every day really while I'm coast and it was before the downfall I mean because the downfall this is right at the peak of it working or what we thought was working and we spend hours doing into that world with Dave for people have not seen the film morning sun which is about the death of your mom of course tragic story but dischord calm but like fucking death metal tuning on acid was fucking great did you record

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Ep. 49: Dave Navarro Looks Like a Bobblehead (Ink Master Season 1) w/ Special Guest Iris Benson

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Ep. 49: Dave Navarro Looks Like a Bobblehead (Ink Master Season 1) w/ Special Guest Iris Benson

"Sweet sweet trash. Do you have the same cillizza soon to me. Here's a thin. The wants to see the whole point of like singing. That song as you just have to assume you have to do it all slack. Jawed to get the billie joe armstrong of it all Dookie of it all is he american. Yeah he's from berkeley shit. He does like a steeper california surfer. Well he doesn't sing like the guy from delinquent aides who when he gets british sometimes like reddish. She's a no but they don't reared weird. There's disturbing type of punk that. I think it's because like like irish bands like the pogues. They like listen to the owed on like it. I like to sing like that. Because it's just like i don't. I don't even care that. I'm singing this song you know and i'm sitting at jam bruno and i actually do care that i sing those songs. Now she too much works a lot. She works hard on her voice. she does. She does vocal warm ups before we start recording. Wow so this is serious anyway spears. This is trash this week. We haven't done. We haven't done trivia awhile when haven't done songs in nevada. I think we're going to bring those back soon. I've kind of been missing that stuff but yeah we don't have any trivia this week. I didn't really I'll be honest because we had a. We have a new kitten in our house sweetie kitten. She's a little. She's in a room right now and her little because she's kept whining and she was like scratchy. Scratch series i to. She's little bitch right now. Name is barbara and we love her. And she goes sh leo. Our other cat is a lot more interested in her than i think she is in him. I think she just wants to run around and be crazy but he like history or a couple of times and growled a couple times. But now i think he's just kind of like accepted that she's here and she's hit him and he fucking freaked out and ran away and went and hid and he's like eight years old and fourteen pounds. He ruined. yeah now. Now she's the alpha. He sucked up efforts now. But i think he's he's cool now until we let her roam around and then she starts getting to his shit and then he probably would have a problem again. You know those fairmount plug ins to try. And i don't know if it doesn't farming smells or whatever for cats i don't know anyway. Give her talking for like the last two minutes or three minutes or whatever. So i guess we just introduce our guests She just came back from the idaho. Comedy festival you for benson. You're gonna say bay area comic. Are you still in the bay area. Right i am. I'm in livermore right now. Oh fuck yeah okay. Yeah where are you guys at his hayward cash valley. Yeah we're far away for me then. It's weird because sometimes when we put in like our gps location. It'll say he word in sometimes. It'll say castro valley enemies and haters out there so we also maybe live in oakland or san francisco. Who knows i i dunno. I think anybody that says that they have haters are delusional. His i only see like people from real housewives just being like on twitter just like yeah into all my haters and i just like ignore the haters and like if you have your and then sometimes it's like super well-deserved were only occasionally on meet somebody that i'm like i get why you have haters. You know so. I get that with me. Thanks i guess yeah this is complemented haters are kind of a good thing sometimes but you know i mean. The nice thing about having haters is usually means. There's people that are jealous of you or you're getting enough attention to piss people which isn't necessarily bad. i guess just definition. I definitely don't have haters. Probably right now But i guess yes doing a podcast about reality shows by i. Guess the hater topic. Yeah i bet if any of the people that we do our episodes about ever listen to this day would hate us because there's a lot of people we talked to. Your big red would hate us Even though he gave you a cameo or someone got you a cameo. Someone got me a cameo from big ads from ninety day. Fiance's for my birthday which i didn't ask it was cool. I can see those that if we were to get a cameo from anyone from ninety day we would want it to be from dursey. I'd want to be drunk darcy. Sorry everybody do you watch we speaking spanish right now I don't watch that much reality. Tv which is why. I picked inca master. 'cause it's like no one reality show that i've watched recently. Nice now. fuck yeah. By the way we did watch ink master ink master or inc masters. It's star. okay. I was gonna ask you like is it just because you wash the recently are you. Do you have like a like a thing for tattoos or like. Why why i. I like tattoos. Because i like arch. I've never ever got one and never pulled the trigger on one. When i was younger when i was in high school. I always wanted one. And i would get like catchy magazines all the times before the internet and And and then. I just sort of forgot about them in and you know just like and then i wanted to be an actress and they were always like you shouldn't get tattoos. If you're an ad was just stupid you cover. That kept me from getting tattoos for a long time was that i did ballet and i wanted to be an actress and then i thought like while never get cast if they think they have to use music up to cover up my tattoo we were. I was in theater school. We did a like this in reeve and managing of shakespeare production as every theater school. Does it was advocate. And one of the leads. She has a hello kitty tattoo on the back of her neck and the director loved it. He's like no like. I don't want you guys to cover up your modern tattooed like everybody knows. This isn't the fucking time period. Like whatever like we're going to have fun with this and then we got so many comments from these old people who were are like donors and like what are they. Call them gold star theater goer people who were just play. Yeah yes it's just like. Oh why wouldn't you just cover up the tattoo. Everybody had such obscene tattoos. The cat along like fuck off. Those are hater interesting Are hater interesting. Recent story related to that davidson is in the process of removing his tattoos. Because for him he said it was just annoying having to go through hours of makeup to cover him up when he does movies. So i think we're movies and just like yeah. Well peter david idiot. So i mean not surprise. Or you're saying oh a lot of tattoos are like. I feel like he got them when he was like young and stupid kinda. Yeah yeah yeah. I have a friend that once you had a sleeve and the sleeve was like a robot. Some aliens some weird like batman or is this a bunch of weird shit. That didn't make any sense together. Yes the i I have a friend who her almost her entire left leg is tattooed with just a random shit but her whole thing is that she usually always wears pants and it's fun for her and she knows like when she's older you know she may regret it. But that's the risks. She's willing to take but then like you don't even know. She has tattoos and then randomly. She'll put on a pair of shorts. And you're like you've got courage the cowardly dog. You've got some power. Puff got a ninth. You've got it sounded like a collage and it looks really cool. And she knows like she can just cover it up if she's over. It never been into the leg tattoos for some reason. Never thought about tattoo amal legs. I don't know why. I want the stevo tattoo. I wanna tattoo of my own faith on. Uh oh what. If i did it of like knee and stevo facing each other doing this. Same face and then There's like rainbow vomit going from his mouth into my mouth. I'm smell okay. And then it's like. I am one though. Yeah okay now. I'm just picturing rainbow vomit. Coming up. Stephen you want it to be an actual like localized vomit. But be different colors or would you just want a rainbow going sparkley rainbow going mouth-to-mouth that'd be cute. I think it'd be. I was going to podcast the and if you did it it was like a rainbow of trash luoyang like an apple peel. Some like some crumpled up receipts. We should get matching tattoos of us facing each other spitting colorful rainbow trash into each other's mouths couples. Or you could get my face. I could get your face and then when we put our backs together relationship has never gonna that anyway. Terrible eight after being the voice of reason. Do that actually okay. I get pretty thick anyway. I really liked to. I mean we've been kind of doing that the whole time but like you know how i would like to ask my guests in and how you doing this week Any any any like crazy stuff happened. This week are like just not that normal. You ask anyone. Anyone open the iris. Did anything crazy happened this week. You don't have nothing. I just thought ask. I got sunburn congrats. That's crazy to me. I've never had one. So yeah and i'm not saying black people can't black people can definitely sunburn. I've just never experienced it so i don't know. Yeah it's not fun. I don't recommend it as the it's itchy. It makes you more susceptible to skin care. Their skin cancer. That sounds good to take. do you think. Do you usually get sunburns or is this like a being inside endemic type. Now we're out in burgess. All not used to the sunlight damage journalism. This same. thing that i just didn't reapply my son's grand enough. Yeah it was. Like i was at a party all day. I was in a pool like the whole time. And that's that's it when you're in water you can't tell i can't tell wow white people problems was like this is the best i would. I would imagine that like on the list of things that white people were like not so great to be white sunburn is like at the top. Yeah that's actually her it is. It's pretty much the top and like white people our number one concern about sunburns and then number. Two concerned about sounding raises not. It'd be like real reliable sunburns worth doing nate. I'm tired i feel like a kitten mama Been nursing this kitten. And i want to jump off a bridge. Nah i'm just kidding. Post-partum don't know kittens are great but taking care of him is not that great. That's why i like older cats overcast. Chill they dislike. Eat shit and hang out want pets every now and then and that's it my cats and nineteen. He just wants bullshit. Let's give it a faucet. Water the older they. They like it more. Leo are their kidneys. Get worse as they get older. They just like fucking wanna drink. Water and tea neil. Yeah leo likes to. 'cause sometimes are faucet drips in leo like some like a packet. I think it's funny He's a man loves that bathwater anyway. Let's get into the trashing. How closely you keep up with celebrity news or anything like that. Irs do you follow that at all. But i'm old so it's usually old celebrities like paris hilton. Says something like oh. I haven't heard about paris hilton in a while. Maybe i'll look at it leg. She's a deejay now. She plays like yeah. She presses play and then she like dancing. Endless and looks fabulous makes us she just. She lays a song she doesn't like mix it with something on. She just plays the song. Like as is it's so great. Launch documentary I i don't think i watched one. That was just about her. I watched by this one. That was about like internet stars Again so it was her and like the fat jewish orland watched them. Were all on it but When when recently about like how. Her parents sent her to one of those lake boarding school for bad teens. And how they're all just fucking abused like terribly abused engine and so it turns out that like paris. Hilton was actually like thrown. I'm not. I'm not laughing because it's funny. I'm laughing because everybody including myself. Which like all she oaks and then like trump come to find out. She was like thrown in a tiny room with like a drain in the middle of floor. Like re literally abused by again. Mortar and tortured and her parents fucking bankrolled. It like of course out in fact in dance on a table top and a shirt that says like fuck poor people or whatever it said. Don't oh yeah we think you may have forgotten. We had this conversation before. And then i was all like yeah but then she also said the racist stuff at that party you want it was like oh yeah yeah i would never date a black or something like it was definitely did pay weird anyway anyway. Do that was one of the trashy reality shows. I did watch A long time ago as her. And then nicole shit. And i and i thought it would be like. They were going to take it seriously and do like they were. They were just like i am get out of bed. 'cause i have money in. Thanks boring interested in that. And then the anna nicole smith one. That was the first one that i ever watched that. Never it was on tv. Yeah next one. We should do that. Let's do it Sarah did you have a news story. Boy oh boy. I don't even know where to start. I have so many news story okay. Good i'll start then. Let me start My first we'll hey okay. There's okay already had it up. Sorry i just okay. This one's lent not even really like that much of a story but apparently like have you seen. Us new face masks. But he's wearing now. Why i got. I wish i could just i'll send to you. But like so he look it up. Yeah he. he's been wearing this fully fate. It's like almost like a sack on his head and it has hose on the parts. We can see out of and has a portrait of a black. Jesus like coming down from heaven. Basically and some angels above him. God i love and he looks. Like he's like their worship. Kind of from watchmen but like with the painting and just Him crying right. Just been wearing that. that's awesome. I think the story is the garbage bag puff jacket. He's wearing when it was like ninety degrees outside lake. he's angeles. It was a hot summer day even wearing math during cova. Don't think so like an anti master. Probably i don't know maybe he just didn't take a position on math. I don't even know if he was in this realm considerate. It seems definitely plausible. That he was an anti mask. I know that for but it does seem like it did a lot and he did that. Rally i didn't see a mask once when he was trying to be president asks wrestling and i don't know what did he say about l. Harriet tubman didn't free. The slaves is what he said free. All of them gone health. We go technically didn't free anyone because slavery was a choice anyway his opinion. Yeah anyway What's your first story. First story is a little bit lighthearted. So okay everybody knows how much i fucking hate. Gwyneth paltrow and goop like i like some of culture. I like some movies. That gwyneth paltrow is in. I think she's done goodall. Good but goop is bullshit. And i hate her just as a fucking person goop just like a lifestyle brand is. This story involves goop. Google is being sued once again. This is like their fucking thousand fucking lawsuit. Because he was you know enjoying gwyneth. Paltrow's a man this candle and it exploded and he was engulfed in flame this beautiful beautiful metaphor in there somewhere now. That's what i call it. fire cracks. I feel like that they're gonna find out that that did happen on well. This is not the first time someone's scandal as exploded waiting for it should have exploded. I don't know what the making them explode and pretty sure. It's the glass jar that they're in handle the temperature in so the glass side. Why would she tested. And she was telling. People put jade eggs up their vaginas for twenty four hours leading to horrific cases of bacterial veteran. No says in yeast. Infection will the one thing i wonder is the the the guy that bought. The candle was either like super ally or like creepy dude. Like why did you want a giant handle. We're not judging this man off his us. She wanted to see how close to the goal and who can blame them third of it. I'm a little curious myself. Yeah apparently it doesn't smell a vagina at all. It smells like flowers and sitting and now and that made me in the first place. Because i'm like that's giving people an unrealistic expectation of what their vaginas should smell a and that's not good. He's then dude be like ooh. My girlfriend's posey doesn't smell like a grapefruit and then they're going to be here. I think that maybe that was gwen. Hell terms attempt at irony. The nobody people are like fuck. You gwyneth you. Don't get to be ironic now. I'm on the fuck. You good whatever side. When i heard her. nate you should. I did try and watch that like reality series. She had on netflix. Oh yeah people do peyote or whatever. I was very boring. It was just like i watched. It was because i was curious. It was the most boring. Whitest oprah documentary. Yeah yeah. I don't even recall any background music ever or anything. It was just a very mundane. Washy obviously made everybody. Where like this is like. She made everybody color. Coordinate their outfit. Yeah it was. Yeah it's horrible. you got something. They got something else. I don't want to talk about this. Bidding war was gonna start with this. But i don't know if you guys. I don't i didn't know his name. But the actor clarence williams that their died on friday he was anyone who's the guy from months quad half-baked he was the guy in Tales from the crypt. The that one black dude. You know what. I'm talking about. If i just say the black. Yeah yeah yeah so. Yeah that's And then in the only other story. I had i guess i just do that one now and then you can do your next one. Is they I don't know who is like as in what network but there is a show being developed right now. Yeah based on. Tommy lee and pamela anderson's relationship. I so i'm gonna watch the shit out of that. Was like my first celebrity crush. That wasn't a teenage boy with like no body hair. You know the and lily. James looks fucking amazing. Hamlet that because my favorite part of the story is actually not the actual story movie. It's the response from courtney. love rain. Love responded in a long tweet About how it's fucking outrageous She basically thinks that That movie coming out is going to force pam to relive some trauma in her past when pam herself has said. She doesn't even care about it anymore. She's like whatever. Yeah courtney she the best part was courtney ended it by saying i'm just gonna read quote. She says my heart goes out to pammy further causing her complex trauma and shame on lily. Jayme whoever the fuck she is. That's what she said at the end of it like shade. Maybe courtney love was having withdrawal from from whatever. Yeah rug that she has been taking courtney. Love is just trying anything to stay relevant through all. It sucks because she's been right about a couple things but then we can't forget like just all the other shit she's done but yeah she definitely was trying to warn people about harvey weinstein way before anybody else and i feel like that might have to deal with a lot of her addiction. Yeah yeah running this kind of wrong and go after the actress. She's an actress gonna make so much money aac. She's just doing and i guess they. I guess the anger and the outrageous. Because they're actually going to re not reenact you sexy and itself because it's not a porno but they're going to have that in the movie. Of course that whole chapter. Yeah damn dude. Okay i asked if like twenty how many well go through briefly. I'm just i'm just. I'm just asking him. I just wanna let everybody know that. Lindsay lowe hands returning to acting john lindsay lohan is going to be in a net flicks. Christmas romcom when you said acting literally it did nothing for me. Nothing happened inside well. did you hear that. It's like holiday rom com yet even further. Don't i crazy watch. The well actually have a friend who worked on the set of liz and dick. The last monday she did about liz taylor and he wasn't a good no he was an extra on the set and he said that they were waiting around for her one day for like two and a half hours out of nowhere. This fucking like convertible screeched up to said she got out and was just like i can't filmed. I can't film right now. I can't fill our god. Yeah in an They had to try to convince a film and then she just got back in the car and they sped off at my friends still got paid as work sites. Good for him yeah. He was very about what she was doing. Maybe she's like. I'm going to make sure all these poor extras extra money. Yeah for doing nothing. Enjoy wasting their day hero also also fucking jackass director. Jeff tremaine had a restraining order against bam. Our jira shit. Oh yeah. I read that because bama jira got kicked out of jackass for because he couldn't stay sober and stevo can stay sober again. Bring it back to stevo if stevo can stay sober and say that five times fast then bam marge era. Should've tried stevo. Steven was deep in. He's sober now like bam get your shit together. And he was threatening. Jeff trains children's lives and so jeff tremaine was like dude. What the fuck like a restraining order so lapped on ban and it's a pretty sad story all the way around because now bam merger is apparently calling a bunch of people like managers and lawyers. And he's like just talking in numbers now and a lot of it like start off like saying like some crazy shit in english and then he'll just be like zero zero one three five zero two three three three. Okay literally numbers literally numbers okay. So that's upsetting. I think that if the sapper. I think if he wanted to because he was a pretty decent skater back in india i believe if he got sober and what he could probably like. Just do that are. I don't know how odious now. I don't know what the age gap isn't heaters league and been dealing ant though my thing and i don't even think was ever like an amazing skater. I think he just hung out with a lot of like no. That's what i'm saying. I think he was like decent but if he paid sober and like worked on that he could have had that as a backup and still be doing that. You know. I don't know. I just yeah. I'm just worried about the guy. I'll ended on a positive known. Saw you this story. I elliott kemper has been having in my head. She's the redhead from the office. She's in she's a secretary pam. Got from moded. I think get sale. Okay he was on unbreakable kimmy schmidt and it's just come to the public's attention that she was named the queen of the veiled prophet ball which is one of those like debutante balls but it has its beginnings tied with white supremacists baby so it started out as like kkk adjacent organizations. That terms like we're not we're kkk adjacent technically involved in the kkk. We're pussies didn't want to be outed as kkk members. So they had to make. It seem like it was just a fun. So you rich. White people thing In saint louis and it has been going on since seventy eight And her parents were super fucking rich. Apparently involved in all of these like companies and corporations and stuff and she would there's pictures of her and people are calling her the kkk queen. Now and i don't know what do you think about it. Because i don't really know because apparently like at this point he responded to it but at this point weird and this bond about shit. Yeah the ball apparently was desegregated. I guess back in the sixties they were like. This isn't a racist thing more. Anybody can do it. Jus can do it. people can do it. And that's basically all they said like. Wow still it was like all white people but dead jude and blackmail ever actually so. They said that they would do it. But did they know and she hasn't responded and like you said there's the rub by bitch you gotta say something like ninety nine so you weren't you were an adult technically by law. We have a nineteen year old dumb that no way and feeling it'd be a sufficient response if she just said funding something. If you live in a place like fat like and you're white you probably are very now named all like the puck in like really. Don't get it for a while until you leave or you know like but but clearly she I don't know doesn't care to respond exactly nonstop craziness of it but also yeah veiled. Prophet ball sounds creepy. Why would you be. That sounds like some weird lake. Mormon off-shoot yeah polygamy type shit like like a child bride banks hi veiled. Yeah the profit that's a. He's a prophet of christ. Fuck their that's usually always not as you were saying now. Okay pro pro fast. Making money off. Avails they're making. They have these young girls sewing veils into the wee hours of the morning. And then my last story is light hearted. It's fun tyco. Ytd and rita ora hand. Like a an. What's her name restaurant. Tessa tom i think that's thomson takeaway. Td rita ora were photocopied photographed. Doing a three way. Make out along. But now margaret was like hey takeaway td shame shame. Shame and i'm like okay. Like morals directs like the guardians of galaxies. Like other that door ragnarok. And jesus like the hottest sex life possible. It's reto ornaments. Nothing now have orgies. Like i'm sorry. They definitely have orgies like have they seen tyco way. Td tessa thompson. They're all very high high all kissing each other at the same time this let him live is this hollywood's first ripple or i don't even think it's a couple were kissing. I think it was just fun. Times a new camera. Madonna shit they were like. Wouldn't it be funny if everybody thought we were all like. You know fucking probably. That's what i want to. Yeah they were like. Let's give these people something. Let's talk about their sex tape loop. But then courtney love to come in and fucking ruined. She's just mad that she didn't think of the sex tape thing i could. You imagine if their kurt. And courtney sex tape. I don't even know nights. He might still be alive today if there was a curtain listening dan. Oh my god. But that's you know. I have other news stories. But those were basically the best. I could talk about the reboot of ben affleck and jennifer lopez's relationship all day. But that could be a whole other podcast about that. We got into a little bit in their last one too. But i'm just like man. This is awesome. Like the world really started going downhill when they broke up and now they're back together. What if things are looking up. What if ben in jaylo benefactor or jeonju as. They're calling them now. Change him in is the real in their break-up set everything into like. Oh beard retrograde. Wait a minute wait wait wait no. No one cosby affleck. Benjamin why is it ginger. Men what. I don't know i just heard it on online firm lady was like. Why does that man name has to come first. Not even thinking. It just found better. Yeah it's just for fun con a little better than any other jewelry. In the in the word benford jennifer is the dominant and it has letters of that and then just has one letter and then they he shared yes so better than everything else feminine. Let's face it. Jennifer lopez has gotta be richer them. Ben affleck oh yes big day. Yes yes. Yeah she does shows. She was at the super bowl. Yeah right yeah yes yes. She did and her. New year's eve performance was the most pandering ridiculous thing i've ever seen so i know she made money off that because she was just like everybody. I know this past year has been hard for so watch me shake my ass. It's one of my favorite. Because she was so out of breath in. Like i love it. That's my news before we move on from the trashy news. The inauguration at the inauguration loud and then everybody was like ole dot lopez. i believe. So why are you making the the inauguration loud and she's like that's what they probably here for Before we move on from tragedies news. I will say that i did. I do have a friend who not a friend. Someone that i worked with. And they fully believe that When you get offered to perform at the super bowl that's hollywood like basically kind of saying. Hey you're in now so you gotta be our puppet and do this links like a devil type thing like a looming nadi. He used the end she might be onto. Something might be but anyway trashing news. House gardner stuff. yeah So this week we watch ink master with mr. Did it debut onto the paramount network. Do you know. did you look anything up on now. I believe it did okay. Yeah it's apparent paramount's network show with like i think give with originally on spike tv on one of those and then it was like on I don't know man. I remember one hundred percent right. It premiered on. Tv you can. We can just for a second because you just made me reminisce man like spike tv was like guys answer to lifetime even though we didn't need every other with liberty. Cv for men but we were just like. Oh you got your channel rule. How about this. Tv guess like men s my first two seasons of ink master daylight shot on the women the like especially the first in the second season one of them was a final they also pitted the two women second season together. Yeah and then. And then like the biggest bank ninth season or the eighth then. There was like kind of like these. Three chicks like just took over and like why it's really good. I was very inspired by season. Eight damn. I can't believe there were. We watched season. One pan actually refers to spin off. Show dan twos are a hot commodity and tv. Yeah they always 'cause. I used to watch miami ink before kat. Von d. was a weird antibac- ser ticked off of miami. I didn't like her. And then she got her own show and she was like as she ended up having most inc show and then she has her own makeup line and she's recording terrible music now and just being an all round Problematic person she is. She got into like a beef with the dude that also started a makeup line. Jaffe heard about the. Yeah but jeffrey star also loves to call people the n word and pray on minor route. Jeffrey star can like you got a glass house. You can't throw stones. You feel me about on the athlete. There should be a questionnaire with you. Become famous at anything and the first question should be. Do you like to say the n word and then like if they answer. Yes it's like no you don't get to be famous to stop. Yes so many. I don't know yeah. Do you think that's a good comeback. but yeah there were a lot of tattoo shows for a while. This one definitely premier on spike tv and the whole premise. It premiered twenty twelve that eight episodes only in the first season which is fine And nate didn't really know any jane's addiction and he am both talk of us as navarro. Okay and he was in so like which one to be fair. I don't know any names of their songs. If i heard one. I'd probably know it because there were like pat feeling. Well he's done with saying feeling yeah and they got the dogs barking man. When you say that i think of about like stuffing like groceries down your pantyhose started off really sexy and then it got you said stuffing groceries till you see what right do it through the. Obviously i know that one. Yeah so the way. Okay okay. Let's we're going to get into it in a second. We're going to take a quick break. And then we get into the trash before we do that with. Who's their decade nineties. Eighties nineties a late eighties early nineties. Okay i'm not even started here fucking artie. That people can listen to metal and rap and alternative instead of having a group. Are they the recent limp biscuit exists. Maybe maybe do you know what i feel like. A little teeny bit corners. The reason why limpest anyway look cornyn limp biscuit. We're of the same. They were home easy. But i think corn was a little bit. I maybe like had longevity. Yeah is berry dated. I'm sorry but i listened to break shit every day. I'm like one of those days. Getting every day is one of those fred durst manually. We're gonna against the trash. We're going to take take up ray. Ink master was the show. We watched in on wikipedia. It is two words thought it was just one word to donald attention. Master master. sir metallica. So the first season was hosted by as we were talking about dave navarro from jane's addiction and one red hot chili peppers album. I don't question anyone here. Know his age eternal. If the three. I think and does he still look back. He looks like one of those guys. That just still looks like that. He's still looks like that. You know. I think he got more gray but i can't diet air right now. I have to look it up right now because like i don't know when this first aired is probably like mid two thousand guests twelve thousand twelve. Yeah okay so in two thousand twelve he. Yeah yes really really really hanging onto the island. Yeah that's the other thing. Is that like he looks like good ish like you look young and stuff but it's also like he's hanging on you know like he won't just like infancy graham. Yeah because that's why he looks like I'm not too. Yes like like i'm like really. Is that eyeliner or does he just have those extra ethic mexican eyelash it. Why not both for kane all those. Oh i don't think he. I really feel like dave navarro lasting. I'll say before. Al continue the dave i feel like he's one of those people who didn't really care that much about the music. He just wanted to be famous. And that's why he's doing hosting snake. He was like i. I think it's hard like really well. But i'm also hot and beautiful and i meant to be seen is what talking all throughout. It's like you know order p congress. Yeah i just. I just know that there's some people talented and good looking. And then nicky just sort of leaned into being good looking. Okay yeah that makes you know for sure. I'm not a jane's addiction fan. Saw wouldn't even know so. Yeah i can. And then the other two judges so it was judged and hosted by dave navarro which is what makes him a judge. and then in the intro. He's like i've been getting tattooed longer than and i'm like that doesn't mean you like i have. Yeah i've been. Were head to toe with shit name. His his new studies the customer to that though if they made a show about retail. I wouldn't want the customer's perspective like shit about the customer. And also chris nunez and chris. Nunez is a tattoo artist. He was on. He's like some miami and from miami being he can you know owned that. Shaw see the one with the beard with the mustache and beard like the liver pack short hair and then the one with the pony tail. He was a bondi's i am like. Why are they all united states and kat von d. in some way like it's so weird like or miami ink it's just like anybody that was affiliated with miami ink was it was now ink master like what the fuck so there's that those were the judges. Whoever won got one hundred thousand dollars and they were featured in inked magazine and got the title blah blah So in season one. We had the contestants. Which were brian be tat robinson. And he got kicked off first because she was so fucking bad dude back found a better nicknamed him be tat. That was his nickname for himself. Terrible i felt. I feel bad when they're like objectively terrible by. It's just it's to say when you when you're a little kid and you piss your pants and public way to like how i feel. Sorry for that. I just feel like they're the is their pants with public. Does he couldn't even do a symmetrical semicircle. It was like excited and it was just would. How do you get on the elimination tattoo on the pigskin where they did like his skull with just jack. Yeah so bad. And then we had jeremy. From austin me miller and he was the guy who was tattooing the girl and she was screaming and shit shit and then she would choose being kind of a bit. Yeah like honestly. Like i know the judges were like well. You should have put her in the different position but she was objectively being a bitch also could have been like. Can i lay down Like i did like the assertiveness when the judges told him that and he was like i disagree. Usually i wasn't considering it was like maybe you should consider but like in the same time the thing i've noticed on this show is Like especially in the earlier season but the tattooist move. Defend their tattoos. No matter what stupid decision they made and like throw each other under the fun like. I thought that she didn't pack her coloring. Tonight's aren't like they'll just plead it's just like Just watching like ten year olds triumph lawyers. I felt like it reminded me of you. Know on rupaul's drag race they had episodes where it was. Only the like background shit. That wasn't really shown on the show like their conversations. Only what was happening in the ink master house. I was young interested in their petty arguments over like man. Well i thought your tattoo was amateur. Dash it was more like they definitely do that. The second like and They just Yeah they They like learn each season. Why in the most interesting to watch and they. They do adjust and they changed like. There's one season where the two coaches had their own. They pick their teams and they battled each other's teams. They have like past winners. Be coaches and do like the same thing. And then there's like a masters versus apprentices line. I would have liked more international judges panel like you know maybe like an italian tattooists again like different best part about season. One was every flash challenge every elimination challenge. They were just like it. It'll be judged by chris. Nunez oliver peck. Msl dave navarro. Ever do they have a guest judge or anything and i was just like cod i. This was low low budget for this season. Like veasley Another person that was in there in this season was al flick. Shen oh wait out like show is gonna ask you about him next because that's the guy with the bald guy with the beard that was like shading guy moshe it. You actually reminded me of him. Iris when you were talking about them like a like throwing each and under the bus because when did that they did a shading challenge. They did a challenge where they had to do something about like heaven heaven gates or something like that was it nope shining challen shading at okay and like one of the guys i guess he did attached to what was the cause. I i watched it again. I couldn't really see what the actual conflict was. But one of the guys yelling at him he was all i did a little. Like a fucking gator. Whatever and he's like no he's like. No you know sound was so weird. It was this giant. Wouldn't cross and like it was kind of a tree at the bottom and then it was like this weird design shapes going up. It's almost like he tattooed the negative space of gate in not begin sell so it looks really weird right and then he was like do not look like a gate and they're just like no my god and it was so in the whole shading it was mostly line. There was like barely shading challenge. Was that he just shaded half of the woman's body like if it was if there was a light source from like a three quarter angle. Yeah and everyone else was like everyone else was like bullshit. What are the and then. The judges are like you get this challenge. Man you win. It looks cool. It was very artistes tattoos and then he was so mad about ed like i hated him with his little pan terra goatee his tiny laureated goats. He i don't remember how long he lasted in the competition. But i think they kept him around longer because he would this shit talker until the third or fourth episode. How much of that do you think happens in. Shows like this where it's like someone gets voted off but then producer like no pick someone else because we like them. We want to keep them on the show. You the happens often all the time. I think that happens Yeah a fair amount until the later seasons. Everybody's so like bulb out talented that it's hard to do that. But the first couple seasons. They're like i don't think that many people knew about it or maybe he didn't take it seriously so all the good people were just like speaking of seriously heather's in was like the bitch that the blonde one all the liner time. Just complain you complaining complaining. And it's like why are you on the show then complain. Don't you women. I will by there. Weren't better women to pick from place. Yes she i feel like they just picked them because they were kinda hot like. We're gonna pick like hot women in in. Was she the one that what's his face yelled at. Yeah okay because i was like kept getting cold. Yeah i feel like every episode. She was like i am cole. Some sort of weird neither on their turn out you like some. we're on. She was just saying like the whole time like well up all night can't sleep and then after you this tattoo and five hours and that's what i was thinking like redoing if you can't if you're up all night doing like i can't control. They're not making you. Stay up all night forcing you to tattoo like. I don't really understand what's happening here. And she's the one that oliver pike yelled at what he was like. I don't remember what he said exactly but shia. He gave her during the pin striping channel on the radar. Yeah j. and he was telling her like he gave her some critique and she didn't take it and he was like started yelling at her. And i it was because she was a woman. I think he was a little bit like something because he didn't tell anybody else. The whole entire show. You know i think talk. I don't know toxic. Was billy vegas. Billy's spelled b. i. l. i. shitty hawk and a little lake satan soul patch perfectly and cry angle looking like a nick kroll character. Like what the fuck are you doing bro. And he always stood in the stands with his fucking hands on his belt. Buckle lifts speak peacocking. He's be reminded me of bail. Yeah even a scott bay. Oh and little is the key word because he was two and a. Let's not hide. Shame on this podcast not five to two soon. I'm not even five to. I'm five. But and i actually also kinda stand in wide stance a lot of the time but you definitely actually initially. I wanted to like billy can. They could see that he would like pretty good. We just got on my nerves yet. He chose the head tattoo. Can i say something. I guess. I just want billy vegas and the second option. That came up says billy vegas. Hi concern to turn. That's amazing. because he because he did the phone but he really does look like nick kroll character from the kroll show. It upsets me very much. He looks like bobby bottle service. Be bob bobby. I haven't even seen that character. But just don't exactly i am that guy he's a decent and and then the other woman because there was only two was laya vendetta and i say out for a while she just want him back good lasted quite a while longer than i thought she was. She was pretty good when it came to like size emplacement in nice lines but other than that she kind him. What's it you know what. She was also like pretty humble when she fucked up like she always knew that she fucked up and she always admitted it she was like. Yeah the tattoos. Pretty fucking orange. Yes i think that also maybe why she stuck around because she realized where her mistakes were and also yet when someone asks for like a fullback piece or forbiddingly a full fucking head piece. You're supposed to do it in four to five hours. Like usually people take like multiple session. Oh shit like pat. That was another case of client asking for something and then bitch and out in the middle of the person's fall even though i don't like billy bush shouldn't be the person's fault of the person i can't take it anymore like i need to break this dude and but i also feel like they should have vetted the clients better. I think they should. I think i think they should have been like especially the dude with fucking psoriasis. Already thanks because they they never really get that good batting the science. And i think they do that on purpose. They had a fucking figure that shit out. But that's that dude. Had psoriasis was in arash. You can't land you know what i would have to. Maybe it's wrong. I don't know what i would have done. It seemed like they just made just his shit too tension. And it's all right here you can do your tattoo. Like psoriasis is a serious condition and then there was a josh woods. Who i don't remember there was james von. Who was the guy who thought he was really really really really good. And then the he'd just like was always off. Then there were tommy helm who was bald. Who went on to do tattoo nightmares and there were shane. O'neill who is like the black and gray guy and he looked like mel gibson. He wasn't physically black and gray but he like did black and gray colors and sars but yeah those were the fact in contestants and they every week they had to do a flash challenge like we mentioned where it was like it wasn't necessarily attached to it was like one week. They had to paint a car when week they had to do paintings on an amputees prosthetic leg. Yes shit like that You fell asleep. That happened and then Yes so bad. Different flash challenges like that. Do the body painting one which objective with cool it was. it was one of the coolest. But wasn't it al fiction who was like who'll be careful around the nipples with the paintbrush as like we get it. Yeah but you know what during that challenge. Dave navarro was being really creepy to like. I'm gonna stick around for this one. Yes with his debt because it was on spike tv. Yeah and dave navarro dated carmel leg or was married to carmen electra. Reality show. That's what i know him from coming electric husband like. I don't know jane's addiction. Its name was just like do you like skinny but looks like he works out like his arms are so cut defining. Yes arm- stuff. I think. I don't think he doesn't mean i hate his step. Mom haircut that rachel berry blow dryer land. Moving it in. I don't wanna mess my hair up. Like i am is where she had like long mail. Relax seattle he paints his nails. His nails are always painted. I just thought it was super funny. Because i was like I feel like dave navarro and chris cornell had such similar like facial features but there could only be one and unfortunately and then dave navarro just like took his energy but nate made a good point of like dave navarro is like the more high maintenance boats hawks makeup hair spa day version of what chris cornell was and i agree with that. Yeah hey hey iris head. How did you say is again fifty three okay. Because i was looking up. I was thinking in my head. How much better he looks. Didn't bret michaels bret michaels. This like fifty eight or so michael. Birt michael has like diabetes to. He's had it been poisoned with like jimmy. Like child like okay. Not a bad. Also feel like dave navarro even though he dresses like kind of the same forever. It's a little bit different than what bret michaels is trying to do. I feel like navarro. Kind of adapts to current trends. While dave navarro or not dave while bret michaels a little bit is still with that weird. Bandanna baby girl has pretty good style and fashion or like bret michaels. Bret michaels tacky. Bit aren't the only reason. I brought him up because i do feel like they. Well dave is definitely doing it better. But they both have that thing where they're hanging onto their look for like forever and stuff like glamorous and there's like that guy from the cure doesn't work looks like he just looks like a bloated berge different. He's still using like white face powder. Red bull his leaking and is now literally the same. Look as it's always been just less smooth. It's not really that funny. I just i was just thinking about how sad it is to wake up in the morning just like well put my makeup on again. That's gonna keep it alive. Got there's a movie with sean penn. I didn't finish it. I didn't know what you're talking about. Yeah yeah yeah then. She plays like a robert smith type. I just couldn't figure out what the plot was. But he was very funny. You're like very understated -ly funny in it. Yeah i gotta watch that. I haven't won. I know i know what you're talking about that We're on this show. I'm just. I was just thinking about how everyone has a stupid tattoo. Name like billy vegas lia vinci heather sane Is almost like it is a comedy parody. Show of a reality show like then. There were the regular people. Like tommy. John and josh and shane and the were objectively the better tattoo artists that they were. They were the ones who need so bad. Comedian when they're like iran then comedian your hyphenated last name. That'd be you're like. I'm not even a comedian. Tax broker like ridiculous people looking me on shows. Comedians should name themselves like the people from inked mass pink master. He's want people to have comedy comedy cheese hurt or something like yeah right. that's fun. that's fun. But i was just thinking what would what would you guys want your tattoo names to be if you were attached to artist. Choose third nate. Would cheesed heard. He's decided i like that name. I don't know irish. What do you think you would like my wait. Wait wait wait. Wait the reason my name would be cheese turns because my signature tattoo would be a cheese with little holes in it and like squeezed through grabby like my trademark. That's disguise anyway. Go ahead is next. I was gonna say iras. What do you think when you go with for your tattooist name it should. I don't know if you if you wanted to the media. Thought i have is iris. Law is so she'd be something with the. I you know like i like like eyelash like you like like i you know i. I r- is isis. But that'll get. You can't use that and we still can't do that. There were people named there are people naming someone named isis or poor thing. I don't know. I guess my name would probably have to be like. I think i'd go the be tat route. And i go like more of like a hip hop name 'cause my last name starts with a g. and that's very good like little tat our our going to be like g hats with zero or something would be like i be drawn ally c. Ohearing diaby. that's already there. You go heavy. You gotta learn how to to yes. Imagine like one of the canvases because the cameras were the people and they just randomly like a skull or whatever and flipping that was a little dehumanizing. Pick your canvas. dave navarro was like inspect your cans. Who do you want him to like. Like what in later seasons. The winner of the flash challenge gets to pick their canvas and they get Goals out so they can with their opponent. Give them like they're really hard. Kaunda truly better keep watching. It's a good show. I think you'll enjoy this. Keep watching also did anybody else. Notice that dave navarro looked like a bobble head a lot of the time he did. He's got a very big head his body think his when he wears heel to that firm he does. He gets his lifts in his shoes. He has to be like just openly has like three inch. Yeah wasn't there like was it. Tom jones that had things like inserted in his shoes to make him seem to alter my tom. Jones was very short. Yeah and maybe it was wayne. Newton anger wayne new. Somebody curated had the lifts in the shoes so it still looks like regular kinda shoes. They just yeah. This is actually a thing. I've done extensive research on. Because when i was eighteen i was all like. Are they going to do something about this height shit seasons with stuff. I even look at that surgery. Were they extend your knees. And you can't walk for like yeah. Yeah so yeah. The nanny i worked for the family that the dad was for ten til yeah. All the kids were short and he kept trying to get them hormone therapy to make them glow human growth hormone shit and the doctors kept by. I kept finding refusal letters like we don't think it's safe for you to your children. Like hormone therapy dude. I had a. I had a cousin that had to do that But she's a fucking bitch. So i don't care also was like super scared of little people because she thought she was going to be a little person and i'm like fuck dial you'd probably be nicer if you were a little person because you'd face more adversity you stupid fucking bitch. I really don't like. I don't know if you guys could tell i. Never watch the surreal life when verne troyer was on this one where they had. They did some children's charity. Like i'm really scared of children because they're bigger than control like their impulses. Yup he was like really afraid of child was to accidentally kill him. Yeah he was zuber scared. That was awful to watch but yeah it was still funny when he got drunk but dude like. I don't know this show was the was. It's like a america's next top model but tattoos. And i agree but also they didn't do black face on ink master so we don't we don't know look up the judge oliver pack last really and the thing is he was tap. Bondi's i have been an shoes. Also involved with jesse james who owned the land. Some kind of racist thing. I remember that guy. He had a show to right. Yeah okay. Yeah yeah so anyway. That's why ink master got cancelled. Sara still like in sock over here. Talk black looking. No yeah i see. There's like an in on his chest. He's wearing a shirt with them in. I forgot about that could drive it home. He was like. I don't think we're going to get the joke shirt. So i am watching my hands clean of that guy. Holy shit. that's way. Worse than justin trudeau completeness. Let's not compare black faces scam like his was. I thought just in the league. That's what i'm saying is like i thought justin trudeau's was offensive foul. Honestly i feel like okay. I'll just say this looking at the two justin trudeau but justin trudeau. Seemed like more of a young person. Who's been like. this is fun. He really just was like dumb. And that was yeah malicious when you just show me right now hannity but don't ever do it though anyway Before we get out here. I just wanted to any last thoughts on the show. Iris i asked you. I like anything. That like Stood out to you that you wanted to bring up or like favorite news. Even i dunno favorite and you know. I don't have favorite tattoos. I mostly like like the artists like The the one season where like the women gang down for like we're gonna fucking woman is taking this shit does contain. Yeah yeah and they did their own spin off. Show where like the four women that banded together their own like out the show. Where they they like. Try out the The two artists and then they get like the for the last season before. The black face thing came out. Yeah i man now. Now i'd be surprised to know what show hasn't done like there's a reality show curse of black face like just shows how how many other reality shows has black-faced been involved it. What we know america's next top model and that was that was actually very first episode that we did on the black face up did blatant had. They had it yet. Where people own my own. The whole point of the episode super-quick was just that they had to be another race so they had to like do their makeup to another race. Remember that so. They had one where they made people other races where they had white women being black women half black women being asian women like just a bunch of stuff like that and they had to hold a child of that actual race. There was an episode many years later where they all made them look like indigenous women of different indigenous tribes. No matter what race they were. They had blond women being like indigenous polynesian women. It was very bad so they had done it multiple times. And then what's her name from. Dancing with the stars jill julianne. What's her name Dated rain seacrest. She dressed up as crazy is from orange. Is the new black white black thing honestly. My god uses that character. I know what that character looks like. And that's already just racist because you can like like like like the yeah twists. Yeah yep so there. And then i'll fuck there was another reality show where there is a black face scandal was a big brother. Someone on big brother did black phase or like something. We should do a whole episode just on this actually. That's not a bad idea. But yeah black face. What the fun ever. Good idea sara. Any moments Some moments that stood out to me. I guess was when this guy did that howling wolf tattoo and they just kept talking about one of the little wolves and not the other two wolves that looked like fucking shit was like really bad liking. It was just three. It was like a log and then like to wolf pups and then a big wolf hall howling in like one. The one all the way to the left looked so fucking good. It was like very realistic. Like looked like a fucking actual picture of a wolf. The second one looked fucking weird and the giant one looked fucking shady and there was no background and it just looked really bad and the judges were like man that one little wolf on the left. Oh so realistic looking. And i'm like what about the rest of the tattoo that sucks. I thought that was stupid. I thought billy vegas was set up to do to head tattoos in a row. He didn't even do this on the second head tattoo. Now because the guy at the last minute was like never mind. I wanted on my thigh re no but then he had to read right to fit the guy and then he didn't have enough time and so he didn't finish two in a row so one was on the league and he's still finish and then like baffle was trying to like defended by being like well. You can't elephants teeth on the top in that angle. And they were like bullshit dude. The fuck. that was fun. But i really just hated heather. I thought she sucked. She was like crying in the corner of a fucking park. Yeah like grow up. You're competing for one hundred and now they're taking the other thing that deborah developed over the seasons where they would if they got difficult body part. The first thing they did was convinced. The client do it for martin Kind of became a formula for the show. Yeah damn it's interesting helping. What about you. Favorite moment of the show is when i said alexa go home in alexa turned off the show as my favorite part unlike the show. It i it's like. I like the some of the tattoos. I do like tattoos. I don't know if. I like. Dave navarro yet. I don't know like i never. I started liking. Dave navarro the second season okay. He likes her 'cause they bring more of themselves than it. They're like the talking heads is awkward in the first season. Yeah and then like the second season. There's like this. there's this one. And i thought i was going to hate it because it starts out. Where he's like the the flash challenges he's like. I brought three of my guitars and then they have to like pay does a fraud and then and then like one girl like she liked you freaked out and painted over her design and he was like obviously felt bad for that. I would like i would. Like i like the dave navarro. I felt i felt like he was like seeing human and connecting with a person. Yeah oftentimes it just takes one little glimpse of humanity and then there's also a really good documentary. He did about his mom's burder they should want. Okay yeah you should have with that. Because now wasn't murdered cold morning sun. And it's fucking amazing. You should watch it. I'm one of those true crime. White women were. I'm just letting man it was on It was on america's most wanted wanted case. Make not murderer and in the move in the Documentary he goes to visit the murderer. Gwen i'm gonna. I'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna go ahead and take this moment to wrap this up. 'cause i don't want to get caught up between two white women talking about crime. Thank you for being here. iris For having me earlier we had. I'm not going to say any names. We might make a song for them later to guests bail in the last two weeks or whatever so yeah. This is kind of nice to have a show up. Yeah anyway this is the part of the podcast where we plug anything that we have gone on This will be out next monday. So just keep that in mind but any anything and he shows websites. Whatever my phone under my cat. I don't know where my phone is But my let's see you can look my schedule up. Its laugh you l. a. f. f. chiku a my name is iris benson. I asked the e. m. s. o. N. we want this if anything i said this made you want to go see my comedy right sarah. You got anything coming up here. The funny thing is is. I have a couple of shows coming up but i forget where and i forget when and so you can look at my facebook. My name is sarah jim. Bruno sir with an h. g. i. a. b. r. u. n. o. Or you can look at my twitter. Which is sarah glam bruno. Just look at it. don't respond. don't tweet her donate. don't engage with me. just look at it. what about you nate. what you've got going on. And what are you gonna plug. Besides your but has always i hate. They stepped on my joke. As always i wanna plug my. But i haven't chosen a dildo yet. So i will. We're not sponsored but we could be. Hey hey it. Yeah i used to work at a porn shop anyway The story i once you plug my obviously the trash podcast. Dot com w. w. w. w w w dot the trash podcast dot com slash merge. If you wanna buy some shit still available. We got bags. We all kinds of shit. But just go there to listen to podcasts. Or just go to our patriot. Patriotic dot com slash. Podcast podcast. yes. And there's actually a lot of cooper on their like our last episode was about two hours and twenty minutes long but that's only for patrons If you view that episode publicly is only about like an hour or something whatever so yeah you get extra shit extra in tents if you're a patron on patriots whether that extra content good or not or whether we might say racist things we might get canceled so you you re the says that material to get us cancelled and that's better than yes and also i wanna plug my men's rights group of change. There is no ms. I have a we. We meet once a week. We talk about right. It's it's called it's called What was it called again. How would i. It's called called men's right episode for return of the men. And anyway i w guy has a trash can smashed into guys had blood whenever finding on the frank need a wrestler. Now we should take the tradesman retirement i need some trash plug up the cut trash up trash. 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#46 Flea (Red Hot Chili Peppers) 1996 Interview

The Tapes Archive

17:35 min | 5 months ago

#46 Flea (Red Hot Chili Peppers) 1996 Interview

"Welcome back to the tapes archive podcast where we release interviews. That have never been heard before in this episode. We have the basis and founding member of the red hot chili peppers flea at the time of this interview in nineteen ninety. Six fleet was thirty four years old and was promoting. The band's upcoming concert with new stars. Dave navarro in the interview flea talks about what made him pick up the base the meaning behind the song p. and if he regrets his past drug use as always we have music critic mark allen at the helm conducting the interview. One last thing before we get to the interview. That tape archive. Podcast is a proud member of cyrus media a global community connecting passionate fans with podcast and experiences about rs and topics you love. Thanks for tune in and now time to open the volt i. I'm fine thank you. How are you want to start off by asking is strange to think of yourself as an arena band. No not really. I mean because we've worked for so long to get to this point where we're playing arenas spent so many years. Starting in this lawless little clubs were way up to mega domes and It's been a very gradual thing so it hasn't been like all of a sudden opinions. Bq jelena's like this for so many bands. Were working in for us. So it's not i mean. Are you glad that you worked your way up that way. I felt good about where at how we got at. I feel like that we've worked hard and we have a good understanding of what it is to be where we are understand the value of work. Can we understand the value of discipline and understand that the fruits of creativity feel like this is the best lineup since the first lineup of the band. I can't say that now. I think this is an expert lineup. That i think would different than any other lineup and i think we are smoking but I think that the john fashanu lineup. This very amazing. And i think that the original is really strong and misdee- initial impetus further suspend. It's hard to compare them. You know they're all hello. John fashanu dave navarro very different people very different ideas and very different ways of expressing themselves. I think this is a great one. If i didn't feel it was clear them. Smoking banned in the world. I wouldn't be out here playing. Arenas was it a goal to get to this level I kinda like often some foggy distance. Perhaps all the player is no. But i more thought of like playing there was a place called in los angeles. This computer called perkins palace. I think it holds about fifteen hundred or two thousand people. And i see parents down. I thank god that was my biggest goal palace that was always thought we make it like the perkins palace. That would be like my dream. Come true the greatest thing in my life. Us kind of clips. That haven't you. We could do that. You know obviously power. You can make enough money to paint event and have another job. You're doing real good chat and I think it was in the rolling stone piece refers to this as a new band with new priorities. Is that the way you see it to I don't know my priorities aren't any different. I don't know what he's talking about the new band. Dave definitely has different priorities in his life than anyone else has never been in. This band has narrowed personal satisfaction. What made you pick up a piece when you originally started playing bass. Hello slovak said to me We've bass player in my band wheel and the world. Yeah that's that's how. I think most bass players start out here. The band needs a bass player and And and there you go. Yeah i guess so. Yeah and did you become as great at as you are by just just constant practice and or mean. Ross run economy. Great thank you. I do i want to call you. Thank you very much. I i developed my style on the base by just trying and by listening to music that i like listening to a wide variety of different musics and trying to understand different feelings as music in lots of different types of music and just being myself not trying to be anyone else and by a really loving firstly. I think you know just truly loving nothing you hills strings. Nothing feels when i get inside. Someone's kicked it did it. Did it come naturally to you. Pretty naturally rhythm in music comes pretty naturally. Can you play other instruments to play guitar guitar. Songwriting on guitar okay. I don't really guitar playing very not virtuosic you'd say i. I couldn't make form on the guitar. Even though i do. Occasionally do co. shows singing playing guitar myself. But i don't do either of those very outsmarting whole thing you know i do. I played trumpet trumpet before i started playing basement. Goal my first jazz classical trumpet player until much to my parents to smith gave it up and when punk rock bass player actually. They always supported me. They're always interested in people playing bass. I played bass and i was just horrible at it and and i'm always curious when when i talked to people about who play it. 'cause it's just remarkable to me when when people are great at it you know where people are really proficient and and stuff and really understand the instrument is you seem to know what you can do with it and then take it another directions as well But i i to me it for like payments as any instrument that just amount of loving it and doing your own thing and not doing anyone else's thing and then how you can talk a bit about The song p what. What inspired that was this particular incident or i think it was mostly inspired by being in nature and by having the feeling of getting away from being in the big city where i feel like i'm so important in a big city because i you know dealing with all these things are really insignificant like You know money and power and property and you know all these material things and you start to feel. These things are meaningless. That you start to feel like you're important. You controlling all these. These meaningless things and i get out into nature in costa rica laughter. Somewhere sure and I started becoming very small. Because i'm dealing with things that are actually very meaningful lakes sky rocks and shit like that ocean wildlife Actually really small realizing that feeling. Let's talk about the thing is. We are all insignificant little specks shit to realize that is intense spiritual realization really. I mean seriously and That's beautiful to me. Talk about these be to make it. Where was that this supermarket hollywood. Oh beat the hell out of me one day when you're a kid rows teenager okay. Okay Shallow be that game. Which i think is my favorite song on the record. It's very interesting to me. That i see a lot of musicians professing their belief in god. I think that For a long time god was a real enemy of of rock and roll or rock and roll treated god-like ademi and now i see a lot of musicians talking about that i guess. How do you feel about that. Do you feel to idea of. God is a beautiful thing. And i think that idea of spirituality in idea god which is a beautiful thing and i'm very much into is one thing but the idea of organized religion as a Controlling thing which has been used for thousands of years to keep people down to keep people poor and keep people ignorant and to keep people unhappy while pitch get richer and the fact get fatter is another issue. I believe in god but i. I'm not interested in an organized. Religion that is murderous evil and has a history of destroying indigenous cultures and destroying people and and Only out for itself and financial games and things like that you know under under the guise of some religious dogma. I always say more people have been killed in the name of religion than anything else. I think that song really gets it. That yeah that's what it's about your words. I'm right with him on it. It's not anti spirituality anti-god it's anti evil organized religion. I mean just like the crusades. The decaf is with the catholic. Stick with what happened with the other. Missionaries going around like destroying. What called pagan religions which you know these like beautiful ways of life for people beautiful ways of creative spiritual living like destroyed. You know it's disgusting. There's no you also don't have to look very far. I mean as far as today's headline to see people killing each other over their religions. It's it's ugly. I'm coffee shop. You make Reference to hickey pop. And there's a lot of references in in all the articles that seem to have been written about you guys this time around about how different you are off stage from onstage and i mean i guess is sort of now for being a totally different guy off stage as opposed to onstage. Why do you think people are so surprised that you're different offstage. I dunno i guess. People expect fishy a show and we do the most wild and ken show that we can. I mean i guess they figured that. That's how we're going to be on time we're entertainers in being entertainers and giving an entertaining. Show at sonic audio entertainment as well as visual entertainment and You know in trying to be as exciting as we can as performers. It's funny that people can't seem to see the difference. But i think he'd like gory expecting to she Jack nicholson the way. He acted in One flew over the cuckoo's nest. Timing or something you know. It can ridiculous. But i mean actually not to that extreme. Because we're not. We're not acting as we are doing our thing. You know i mean we're playing. Music is very close to our hearts. And we're trying to do the most entertaining way possible but That doesn't mean that we are interested. Sensitive kind happy. Happy peaceful people. You've got a what i guess. Fifteen or twenty rows that are taken out so that people can mosh in front of the stage for this tour. This is that at every stop. We always try to have as much General admission space as we can good time. Yeah it's not a kind of a nightmare logistically insurance wise and all that you get involved with that at all. I'm telling the truth. I don't really know okay. I think that i probably will start getting more involved. I've never have on kind of like to think about playing good in showing up and playing good gig as opposed to wearing all that stuff. But i i'm i'm starting to realize it's more important for myself us as a to get more involved in the logistics of planning shows. The are you comfortable with people. Marching and stuff is that I'm gonna destroyed ordinary comforter. Kokatay right now better. I don't try to hurt each other. Yeah that right after you have a seven year old daughter. Yeah i have a four year old daughter and are wondering. Are you scared no. I'm not scared i'm happy. Yeah i mean. I understand being happy about it. But man you look at the world and How women are treated in it and stuff and sometimes i think i think the you know to be a good father is to instill in our children a sense of self esteem and lots of love strength so they can love themselves and take care of themselves and not depict them to not put themselves in situations where they might be treated less than than respectfully to the extent that you ever thought about it. I think what what you're going to be like. And and when you're a fifty year old musician and i ask that because i see so many fifty year old musicians who still have the creativity and still wanna do it. But it's hard to keep the audience you know and i think it depends on what height of audience. She wanna keep what you wanna do. Are you willing to grow and change as a musician you know. I don't think anyone can hip to keep doing the same shit year in and year out and expect to keep an audience because music and society and everything is always growing and changing and experiencing dynamics. You know it's like sure we keep an exact same chili peppers thing and fifty. Doing some gigging vegas if something you know what i mean. Yes i semi oldies packages. Some stupid shit like that for Growing as human beings and and growing and changing doing different things in our life. I look at a guy like john. Entwistle who is out on the road you know and he i mean he's struggling to get a couple of hundred people to come to see his gigs and i'm thinking you know this is just very. Yeah i mean you look at it and you see all these guys and you know guys are popular you know hugely popular in the seventies and you know they still want to go out and they still wanna play button in other relevant over the audience anymore. I guess i mean actually. John entwistle is he what is he doing. I guess he's basically doing the sort of their his solo stuff. And there's a who medley some of the stuff that he can he wrote fairmount of songs especially ain't going out and doing like seventies rock songs. Yeah i guess for the most part. That's probably going. Hey i mean. I think he could do seventies rock songs. It's not seventies rocks on time anymore. No excuse not willing to grow as an artist musician he can. He can expect people to stay back with him. I mean i don't know interest of doing so. I don't know but i imagine that if he was like doing something different might be people that like the interested in that not necessarily arena rock stadium people but maybe on the people interested and then at the same time. I'm sure that john entwistle made lots of money playing in the who am sure that he has plenty of money. And i'm sure that he's doing it because he likes it anyway mode and then you must be having fun. He's certainly hopes. And i'm sure he's not doing it to to put food on the table. I hope you're right. I think you're right. Been you never know because wa. These guys did squander their money. And and such one of the lines on the record that i really like is The butthole surfers saying it's better to regret something. He did something he didn't do. And i know people have asked you to death about drugs and stuff. So i'm just gonna ask. Is it Do you regret it a better to have done something or the not not not done some I think that everything that any person has done is something that they have to be happy about this. It's the truth and people should always be happy about the truth whether the truth is something that you need to learn from to realize that something you need not to do again and realize there's a better way won't be like that was excellent way and it's something that you wanted to keep doing it improve on whatever but i think the truth is always good. I think the truth is what. It's all about two other things. I'll aeko one. Do you have any particular feelings about the rock and roll hall of fame. You expect the chili peppers Eventually get in and You care. I don't care where hold on a second i always say i don't care about this. And it turns out that they do care per second. Because every time i could the grammy's and all that shit like i don't get a fund raiser i haven't seen in my bathroom academy god i mean so maybe if we got to shut it off the rahkamo hall of fame i would feel proud of being a part of american history possibly but pay interest. I don't know as far as i can see whatever kind of chill crazy. Don't pop in it or they don't have Salou read and he poppies became. Frock poppies the greatest rocker of all time. Do you like the new album. Heaven are great. It is great but every five years like over the long haul. He's always been awesome and over. The short heart lake feuded. The best five years of caracas career. No hint just awesome. And he's also like never been an asshole so he's been cool and finally. Is there anything else you want to cover that. We haven't talked about no not really okay. That's room service backing on my door. Okay well. I appreciate your time and Cnx monday take. Thanks for listening to the tapes archived. Podcasts please remember. You can always find more information about the show and the individual at our website. The tapes archive dot com until next time. The volt is closed. I'm john prideaux host of the checks and balances podcast from the economists each week. We are looking stories trends shaping. American politics joined by the economists journalists from around the world class expert guests we dig into the ideas data the country's complex history to answer the big questions about where teddy that's checks and balances join me today. The start listening on a cost. You put cost out wherever you your coasts.

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June Streaming Recommendations, TikTok Beekeeper Drama, and Moulin Rouge! | Tea Time

Ringer Dish

1:03:53 hr | 2 months ago

June Streaming Recommendations, TikTok Beekeeper Drama, and Moulin Rouge! | Tea Time

"This is a weekly podcast. Honoring your podcast network. I unless kelly. i'm and i'm amelia. What am i r- today checking in with some streaming in june. This is i can't believe i know. moulin rouge one years later so excited. Yeah and birthday cakes could episode. We share before we get into the show at stake and this episode of breyer dish is brought to you. By ziplock brand accessory bags people can spend up to eighty one days over their lifetime searching for things in their purse. Everyone knows that feeling frantically digging around a purse not finding what you need. Take some time. Back with uniquely designed ziplock brand accessory bags. They organize everything in your bag like cosmetics tech jewelry and all that other stuff so you can find them when you need them. Swagger bag with ziplock brand accessory bags today. Most workout programs aren't flexible at all. Hi michaela a fitness coach on future a new app where we build your workout programs to be flexible for you. Whether you're at home or in the gym your coach will adapt your program to help you make the most of it fitness that revolves around your life and not the other way around. That's the future of fitness. Get started right now with fifty percent off your first month at try future dot com slash spotify again. That's try future dot com slash spotify. Okay another month has passed. Time is passing. we are now in june Which means that we have another month like some streaming rex. But we have this fun little thing to talk about todd that has to do a streaming because spotify released this new campaign this week called. Only you and the whole gist is like only you. Listen like x y and z or love this artisan that artists artisan this other thing. So it's you know you. The spotify listener is a unique person and they kind of compile all this really fun data. I personally live for this stuff even though i i don't know why but i always have so much clicking through it what did you guys think about getting this email and there's an app. I was really excited about it. I love spotify wrapped. The first of all. I want to say we're not being asked to talk about this. We are like legitimately really embarrassing. Wanted to talk about it. So people been posting it till like brace social media thing but yeah i like the stuff too. I was disappointed by mind now. Did you guys do no no. It was so embarrassing. Irene know my music tastes embarrassing. I don't need it like flashed on fine for me. Yeah a little bit of a drag. Like i mean spotify. Wrap this great like it's also embarrassing. But there was something about this specific one that was specifically embarrassing for my unique artists pair. It was like only you would play this artists. And then this artist had maggie rogers and fall out boy olga. I don't remember playing why this year. But apparently i did. Right after maggie. Rogers yeah mine is you would play ciza after the doors and i can't be the only one that feels like okay. I feel like mine is the worst because it was like only you would play orville peck after katy. Perry and i'm like is that a is that a joke. Okay okay so they got really specific. Normally spotify rap is like. Here's your top songs. Here's your artist of the year. Whatever this was. Like some deep cuts which i think is why at because i have a memory of listening to some of these things totally did this audio birth chart like your son sign your moon sign and your rising sign. They know what. The millennials want a harder percent. Because i don't know that meant nothing to me. But i think there are a lot of people that were like. Oh my god my birth sign or whatever Mine were not great my moods. Was tony bennett. And i have no recollection of listening. My my issue with the birth chart was that your top artists was your son sign rain which was a good morning and we can talk about this morning minute but my top artists is still taylor swift and i listened to taylor swift since i mean those albums. Were like winter out so probably january was last time. I listened to evermore folklore. But i think the problem is like i listened to a lot of k pop and i looked at. I listened to so many different artists. That i don't just listen to one. So then taylor. Swift is still winning simmons into the year so it was like a good warning of like okay like focus on someone for whom that up because otherwise it's going to be which is fine but then i also had phoebe bridgewater's that was my son. I was like okay. This is like a little bit too like sad white grow. I mean what else you got. Well when we did this cringe mode. I frigging predicted. You can go run through the old tape. I said you know what i bet josie and the pussycats will end up. Being my most listened to album and high surprise on my audio birth chart it said son side most listened to artists josie and the buzzing. Yes that's a moon sign is the killers and then my rising side which i guess is a recent discovery is christina. Aguilera recent discovery. Wow i was in the artist christine aguilera. Yes pretty funny. yeah yeah. I was not super impressed by. They had one. That was like you know you played like this song really late at night or early in the which mine was waking up slow piano version. By gabriel aplin was like only. You would play this in the morning. It's called waking up slow. I think a lot of peaceful probably played this song in the morning but yeah. I don't know what i expected. Yeah this is a wakeup call for sure. You have some thoughts about what our game plan should be going into the next six months before wrapped comes out Because i need to make some adjustments or like okay again. I'm plagued by my workout. Music likes and then my like normal. Human kelly legs and again. I'm just begging so much. Fight has helped me separate this too. But yeah what should we be doing between now and when that wrapped comes out i think we gotta get serious. I think we gotta go at it with like focus with the tension. Yeah instead of just turning on something random. Be like okay. Who should i listen to for. Two hours was discography. Can i get really into to bump tiller with out of that top spot like while. I'm working on this spreadsheet. Maybe less like shuffle playlist and more like actual albums focusing on amelia. I think you should keep doing what you're doing better than cats guinea to stick with that you get just for the lulls and i think that's the way our game plan amelia. I will legitimately pay you if in six months from. Now you're route comes out. And it has josie and seacat dolls top artists. So he's okay. Okay well my god. Well i mean there's only one way to go up from tim mcgraw's something like that and i was the gap on whatever rains. You have such range. I love it okay. Also speaking of streaming again new month or doing some june streaming rex. I'm gonna go. I i got to and kind of one note for the people. First one is. I just watch bo burnham's inside media and he filmed this during the pandemic which were still in but like more like from march twenty twenty two now oh He wrote directed shot edited it all by himself like zero crew. It was just him. And what looked like his back. Outhouse kind. Of like descending into madness and i thought it was going to be really covert heavy and like all jokes about and it truly was not at all it was more of just like his mental sanity kind of being affected by the pandemic. And how that affected his comedy but nothing no kovic jokes which was great which i know we all say we don't need and want but it's very entertaining k. I know you watched it too. Did you like it. yeah. I loved it. I love the burnham. I firmly think that as we as a society are not sure about john. Mullany in these trying times that we should focus our attentions on bo burnham who i think is attractive in a similar way more attractive over and that i would like to admit also. His longtime partner is lorraine's cafaro. Who directed hustlers underrated. Hollywood power couple but anyway love the special. I started watching it. And i texted my brother who likes pct and i was like. Hey like new special. He's a song right now about face timing your mom like really funny and then i texted rather like forty five minutes later it was like okay gets a little bit of a tough watch very highly recommended it but like not the vibe that i lead you to believe it was forty five minutes ago. 'cause it definitely gets very introspective in sort of like about his depression existing in quarantine which is incredibly relatable. But yeah really good really funny a little dark but ultimately like felt very cleansing to wash agreed agreed on the other one is a total pivot. I also watched on that flakes. see spiracy which. I'm always a couple weeks late. This kind of stuff and i know i think everyone who's gonna watch it has probably already watched it but I found it very educational. It's basically examining the environmental impact of fishing and like our human impact on marine life So if you like documentaries and learning about the environment i would definitely recommend it And also very deep cut this maybe for two people listening. I'm hoping but if anyone used to watch whale wars on animal planet oh a decade ago. There are a couple of my mom there. I fucking love wheel wars. I was biggest so upset when i got cancelled. Iconic the whole crew. Paul watson and the sea shepherd are still out on the seas to help our environment and trying to help our fishing industry. So they were they were never doing it for notoriety. They were always doing it for the way later. They're still at it. So that i mean really lovely to see. As i'll be honest. I watched like half of it and i had shut it off because i was like this. I can't but i think that's i think you're one hundred percents spiracy. Yeah we should all watch it. We'll because i just like. I was like i'm mari depressed. I can't do maybe pick you back up at a different time of the year guy and very quickly guys i'm back in my survived grind my brother's home from school. So i'm diving into the david versus goliath season. Frigging loving it. I missed it And if anyone like jump in now with me you so what was your favorite characters. So far i'm like five episodes in santa hard but we also did a draft. This time which i think is fine. Because more invested from episode. One he has opposed. You have to wait halfway through the season and you like like six people wherever so now i'm invested in all types of odd contest ends 'bite I'll have the better. Because i know we've we may suffer enough but yes anyway if anyone wants to watch with me please. Rate great. Season alright amelia. What are you watching this. Mom well i you know. The networks got two seasons of this show called ink master which premiered on spike but move to like the paramount network. then it got cancelled and is being revived by paramount. Plus apparently and it's pretty much what it is like a bunch of tattoo artists from across the country come in to compete against each other for the title of ink master and they all have to do all the different styles and dave navarro hosts said. And it's so. I have become so obsessed with it that i bought paramount plus just so i could see the other seasons. The bought a tattoo. No that's the thing. I see i will never and i was talking about this. We were both like. I will never get a tattoo but i can tell you all the different new school black and gray realism or trix style. Yeah i'm obsessed with it. It's so good. Dave was always like dave navarro. Whatever but he on watch it for dave navarro. He is so funny. There's like this moment. Where he's i don't understand. I just like. I don't understand dave navarro but yet i do understand dave navarro because there's like a moment where he introduces the finale of one of the seasons and he is hanging they decided it was a good idea to hang this guy by skin like put like. It's called benjamin. Yeah and so. They just like thread stuff and he's like hanging by his skin and he's just like oil com ink master fennell and someone so random ass guy that they hired just comes up to him and starts swinging him back book back and four million by his skin. Yeah and it's wild fervent. I'm and there's also it's really funny because this show is sponsored by different like corporations and whatnot in like in the fifth season and this has become i guess has become like a whole meam he sponsored by taco bell and so they cut to dave navarro for like every single challenge and he's always like today's challenges presented by taco bell which encourages everyone to live. And you guys are all living moss and so it's become like this mean of dave navarro saying live and for whatever reason the internet has grabbed a hold and let it go and audit. It's so it's hilarious. I mean you know consumerism bad. But i just feel so good. This show is so addictive. And i say that as someone who doesn't i will never get a tattoo because i'm too afraid of pain but i thought about it from instagram stories clip. Sometimes it's like a nice little taste of what the hell. Yeah yeah inc and all that kind of freaked out. But i will live watching very good. I honestly the first do seasons. Rotten lex. I challenge everyone to watch it and not subscribe to paramount. Plus they got me. Yeah next one okay. And then also i know everyone's been watching it but i have become obsessed with irvy's town Yeah i mean it ended or whatever so but you can catch up. There is the perfect time. You don't have to wait week-to-week week like the rest of us. And that's what. I did up until the finale. But it's it's really good. I don't know i mean there's nothing more i can say. Then it's you know. It's a dark gloomy drama but they're funny moments. There are a lot of good character and again it's only seven episodes. So you can do it. I've been in like a night. So yeah yes but maybe not healthy for your mind but Yeah there's a lot of good coverage on the ringer of both writing on the writing side and then the watch has had kate winslet on and a lot of episodes about miami's town as well and also. If you like to be sandwich. I also really did. I recommend watching broad church which is like basically the british version of town. I cannot believe how many similarities there were between the shows. But coleman and david tenant and they're detectives who get called in to investigate the death of a child and how to work together a sounds familiar but it's three seasons. It was on netflix claustrophobic. But i'm not sure if it's still and then happy valley also has kind of like the woman who lives in the small town and has to sort of investigate like her neighbors and people. She knows solve murder. So very similar vibe cannot recommend broad church enough. I love fraud church but yet similar energy to marry eastone and then the last thing i'm excited for in june maybe streaming. Maybe not now that we get to choose is in the heights. You guys a big movie musical love it. Maybe you'll go to a theater am even to think about that is up and go. I don't know maybe like a matinee not very many people. It comes out june eleventh It just seems like the type of movie. I wanna see on the big screen. It's lin-manuel miranda's like first musical on broadway. They made it into a movie. I'm just really excited. Obviously and forever and ever. So we'll see. I'll keep you posted a lots of bridge of police. All right next category just fair warning so it's a random one this week a couple different things to talk about. This is of course not worth the t social media little relationship news. Low wildlife news. You know this is our mashup category and this is a really big mashup melia. I'm going to start with you You know we've seen the rise. I feel like in recent years of stan accounts just people you know running these accounts because they're huge fans and they have nothing else to which i get it. I get it. I i would have on to but i don't think i feel so passionately about Someone as a lot of people do which is fine but as you know we got the on a day. Updates revealed that low. Mass x was running in nikki. Manar stan account will now Someone who is running the james mcevoy updates has given us all the most stunning update. I think from one of these accounts and they posted to the instagram. James mcevoy updates saying. I'm done with this account. Thank you all for the laughs. But i have no motivation to keep updating james. This account was initially to help me let my feelings out and sometimes ramp but my antidepressants have started working and they helped me realize i actually do not like james mcevoy as i thought i did. If you were looking forward to my updates i apologize. You will have to find another account to fall as i am no longer suffering from mental illness ex heart emoji which i mean. What a stunning development. I'm so glad this person on antidepressants. And i feel this. Is what a ringing endorsement for antidepressants. Because i do feel like a lot of times. I mean we've all been guilty of it. You just go into like this whole of like i say shin yes just a real person and now james back now. This woman is our man are like. I actually don't like it as much as i thought i did. And i don't need him anymore. Venture out into the real world. Which i think is great. What a evolution. And it's just you know you're laureus. Nineteen people liked this ceram. And i hope fed james mcevoy. Updates doesn't need any outside validation. It'd be like good but only like a could they. I should follow this. Throw this like because of my more people should support jacobite updates in ya. They're like better mental health state. I also i've seen this people tweet about this. But they're not going to like the actual which is bad form. It is odd manner agree agreed rank right so happy for that. Update thank you. Yeah anytime. I also have another important i while i guess i have to. I'm sorry i one or second one. Is courtney stodden said that that. They are engaged to entrepreneur crocheting. So really happy for them. Because i mean. I don't even wanna get into all the crap that they've had to deal with for the past ten plus years and the whole chris christie teagan. Just go away truly. Go away labor alive. Yeah go off. Line lines where i don't know it's just like you're sad Anyway so happy. For courtney stodden and crocheting wish them the very best. And then also i just i love. Someone wrote david spade as possible. New bachelor host feel free to delete because like okay. Who cares about this on totally. Yeah i know it was like yeah but also again yeah. So apparently him and other celebrities quote unquote celebrities are supposed to guest host bachelor in paradise Amid chris harrison's break from the franchise. How do we feel about this. You know they should do. I had a lot of like david spade jokes. I was gonna make but this just came to me. They should do the same host that they did for jeopardy. Oh my i like the specific like shows like do interesting. Cooper katie couric aero-engines. Just like the czar. You didn't get the jeopardy job but like here's what we do have for you paradise and how they do. That's a brilliant idea. That is a good idea. It'd be a good social experiment. Yeah i don't need david spade ever needed more david spade but like all this franchise is just fucking. Hell bent on booty meat from being a pushing. I i don't know why still even like put this in an outline clicked in article. That talked about david spade. Because i just need to quit but i know you're a little bit more power in the weeds and i am but yeah no i get it man but now but it's like kind of an incentive because like how badly is david spade gonna mess this up. How many bad jokes. i wanna hear. Every jokes yes but he has to say. Because i am a masochist. I guess. I don't tell us how that goes. Maybe i'll why says more fun but it is true now we've got some wildlife news. Total pivot key guys. We talked about bees a couple of weeks ago. And i do on a report back that i did win. The debate of how many bees there were on angelina jolie's body. It was over one hundred just for some closure there but there's more news in the b. space. There's be beef if you will be community is a bus stop so we talked about what believe we mentioned the be lady on our previous. Be pod where it was like this blonde woman. She was like something. Texas be saver or something on tiktok and she got really famous for being blonde and going to these like huge communities of bees and like scooping them out re quote unquote rescuing them so people were like all in on the be lady but other bee keepers who exists online are now coming out speaking about how she promotes safety practices for people and wearing her hair. Down can be really dangerous. And she doesn't use protect gear which can be dangerous for people who think they can just go in and do the same thing so at l. a. Honeybee rescue on tiktok just came out with like this video talking about how problematic her be treatment is and then other beekeepers have also spoken out on social media. Now people are kind of like there's backlash to the backlash speaking in favor of her. And being like just sort of demystify be keeping and just you know selling their product the way any other creator does jimmy login meal of meaning of the biggest keys so yeah not necessarily taking a side in the be wars But there is the discourse. There is a controversy on. Be tiktok so if you are on tiktok have thoughts. Please let me know I will say that she she does go at with kind of a. I don't know. I don't like her energy kind of i don't know it does seem very performative whereas some of these other beekeepers that are speaking about it. I'm like okay. You look like the real deal like you look like you know what you're doing the day but you know any. All of these people are sticking their hands into a massive amounts of bees. Rescue them so like more power to you. I guess i think you're gonna make another pun there singing their dinky situation. I'm really happy though extreme. Happy this opportunity. Yeah the other piece of love news. We have got to talk about. It also came from a very viral video on. Tiktok was a woman that was videoed caught by her ring or some kind of alarm system shoving a full ask grown bear off of her backyard ledge because there was like swiping in not attacking but more just like maybe about to attack her small dogs at lived in her backyard. Maybe we can. If it's it's everywhere. If you just google you know women pushes bear off ledge. It's not it largely. it's like you know. Yeah he'll be fine but anyway so now all of these people writing about it and the most shocking part is this woman who did this is actually a seventeen year old girl named him and defect she to me. So you ought to be so fearless is just mind boggling. So she was interviewed. And she basically what her recollection is is. The dogs are barking. She goes out there to tell him to stop. And when i go over there to see what they're barking at. I'm like that's a funny looking dog. Bustling interviewed her. I said this She felt compelled to help after noticing the bear. Picking up the smallest dog of the group. God so this is what she says. I go over to the bear. I look in the eyes and the first thing i do i think to do is to push it push. Bear push an apex predator. Which you're braver than ninety nine percent of the population. I shit admittedly. I don't know what would get me to push a bear be brave enough to like go head to head with one not. I don't know this is insane. What kind of bear was it. It looks around that goes. I mean those people yes. It was like a grizzly bear. But it will unanimous. Cnn is clinton a black bear. Those are still scary so eaten people. Yes it is like not a small bear. It's not small and they had to cubs the bear. Had to of their mean really aggressive will do anything to protect their cubs. So this is insane. What would you guys have done. I feel like i would have looked for some like a shovel or yeah that would have been because i do think like it's on the fence. It's like balancing think. It's reasonable to be like. I have to push it off but i don't think i would have gone hands. I dare show strong heat. I mean this bear could just like climbed out on right and just swiped her and then she's done. So yeah i really quick reflexes amazing and the address maybe as the adrenaline that. We're gonna do this right now. But i mean i don't know i wouldn't put my dogs in a situation in the first place but backyard. Maybe the have those those little dog costumes with the dog costume every single day. For twenty four hours a day by instead a bear climbs why not. You just can't live in the foothills of the same gabriel mammals near out when you find when you check fraud okay to other things quickly. The first one. It was a slow news week. This has a headline people. Just quickly run courtney cox. She posted on her instagram. What she's calling like a quote alabama roll you know instead of california. A sushi zero her little. Take on it anyway. I thought it was going to be a lot weirder of a snack. It actually sounds fantastic. So what she does. She takes slice turkey. Then she puts mayo mustard nice solid then. She crushes up like a fritos in the sandwich and then she puts cheese avocado and then she rolls up the slice of turkey. And then like you know. That's her low. Ha ha. it's a handle anyway. That i was going to be a little bit weird. Like didn't the article. It's just basically a bread. Sounds good all i mean. I'll allow it. That's sure i'll i don't know. What did the videos pretty edited. And you know thought out. 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Relief bio freeze comes in a variety of application types such as on gel spray patch and foam whether it's sore muscles and joints sprains or strains bio freeze applies easily to cool the pain and keep you going. Find bio freeze in stores and online learn more at bio freeze dot com. Leads do cringe mode. I know kate is extremely excited about this. It's the twentieth anniversary of moulin rouge. We're gonna cover. It had a great time watching. I have never seen this movie. Wow gosh i. it's a favorite. I love it. I do have to say i feel pretty strongly about like exclusively doing bad movies for cringe mode and anytime i have to check and see if three watchable has done it before we do a cringe mode. I feel like it's betraying the spirit of christmas. However i tried to come at this objectively several years and i feel like we did dig up some cringe moments so i do think it allowed to be in the cringe modes but quick summary. I love rish. It's one of my top five favorite movies of all time. And basically it's this very over the top sort of stylistic movie that follows you and mcgregor as christian Who basically joins these like bohemians in france and they want to write a play for it to be performed at this brothel and nicole. Kidman is a prostitute at the brothel. And she wants to be an actress. She wants to star in the play. There's sort of a classic miscommunication comedy of errors. She supposed to fall in love with the stupid. She ends up falling in love with christian. She also happens have consumption Which ultimately she dies from at the end spoiler alert but there are a lot of songs and all the songs are kind of like mashups of modern day like radio hits which was kind of the big sort of experiment with cameras. It's not kind of your classic musical Yeah what did i miss. They put on a show. She dies at the end. And there's a lot that goes on in between but it's gray's well done all right. Let's see some highlights. Kate go ahead. My heart is just that. I loved this movie. I watched it for the first time in eighth grade with my best friend in her basement she was like i'm gonna show you one of my favorite movies of all time. I was like great. We just finished gossip girl like what's next and she showed me mom ruth and i was like that's not what i expected and with it so we watched it a lot of times growing up and i was emotional watching it again. It'd been very long. But i guess going into next highlight. I was like young enough when i watched this movie. And the songs there enough in it. That whenever i hear the original songs that are part of any of the songs in the soundtrack i associate them with like moulin rouge first and then you know silly love songs or you know you lift me up or whatever anybo songs that are in any of these songs. I'm like that's a milan roussin. That's not so just like any time. You're your any of the snippets. Which are a lot of different songs mashed up. I always associate with melrose which is fine. When you're listening to all these eac. Can i tell you something really embarrassing. It took me four full songs to realize that the they were taking other popular songs like radio hits and these were not. This was not an original score when mcgregor start singing your song and he gets to the nfc start. Saying i was like way second. And i looked it up and then i felt like an actual idiot because i did not realize that they had taken those kind of songs and put them in this movie breath considering the first song is a massive of lady marmalade teen spirit. Okay where we do our doing this in the lowlights. I twenty minutes fucking fever dream so i don't actually sure yeah we're gonna get mad that it s fair. It's hard to their parts. That are hard to fall extremely Also this movie gave me the again. I'm just an enormous idiot. I watched the prom and it was like nicole. Kidman singing dancing. This is so fun and unique and new and no obviously as it turns out. That's not the case so this gave me exactly what i thought the problem was. But this is obviously a thousand times. Better nicole kidman being like absolutely over the top theatrical dramatic every emotion under the sign it was amazing and i loved watching her in this kind of role because i've only seen in the dark gloomy stuff. Yeah like the big little lies yet at all actually used to have fun. Turns out crazy jin. Yeah so sad Yeah you know on topic of just over the top. I feel like this whole vibe of this movie is over the top. And i i enjoy that someone was like you know what i am going to make this movie insane. And we're going to have a fun time and i guess guy is baz luhrmann so him i was like. Is this what you know. Like being on drugs is because okay. Yeah but i mean like the first introduction. I mean not that. I drank absinthe after watching this movie. But i'm just like whoa. So this is absent. you see a green ferry alabama. No okay that's what i associate with to like an eighth grade. I was like oh is alcohol. Like damn okay cool. Yeah this whole movie is alive. And i think it's like see mostly brings us into our lowlights. These kind of movies action made me really wanna watch chicago with renee. Zellweger the roxanne number. I was like wow. I need Blocked tango or whatever is in the chicago But anyway yeah this. This movie is a lot so kate. You wanna talk about that more in the lowlights. Yeah even as someone who has seen this movie so many times watch starting in up being like yes here. We go the first twenty minutes. This movie are extremely difficult to follow. Yeah you get christian. And he's like takes you back writing about his long lost love who died. But then he you get introduced to these characters and the bohemians and they're at the brothel and people are yelling and their cgi and their songs and it just is real. It's it's a lot to follow and it's he doesn't really bosley doesn't really Sort of start slowly. I would say the weirdest stuff in this movie are in the first half and then it gets more normal and as you go so yeah i think if this is not your thing you'll know within the first ten minutes which is helpful but also can be a lot i would say maybe make it past that because i watched the first twenty minutes like my god is going to be two hours of this and it really was not all that story. Yeah totally yeah but yet for twenty minutes absolutely it's tossed it's a barrier of entry for a good way of putting it. Yeah on that note cringe stuff awkward scenes. They're difficult for me and there is sort of this comedy of errors at the beginning. Where in the elephant which is like the room where nicole kidman with clients icon And it is a conic honestly but there's a miscommunication seem where she thinks she's supposed to sleep christian christian thinks he's pitching her a play and then she has to pretend like he's not there and she's with the duke and it's like this whole supposed to be like you know again very over the top very sort of comedic but it's a little too awkward for me so i do kind of skip skip through some of that but it leads to your song which is it is. It is worth it in the end. Yeah what else okay. I don't maybe. I'm crazy but i. It took me like five years to understand. She died of tuberculosis. Like i honestly. I thought she of cancer. I don whatever. I'm viewers know they aren't. Which is i mean. Whatever who cares. That's fine but i on. It took me a long time to understand okay. Tuberculosis got it your coughing. She coughs blood into a handkerchief. It could be anything it could clearly. Yeah it's not really like a low light. It was just more like maybe some clarity there. No okay that's fine And then this is maybe really selfish but you know i understand why she had to die but like did she really have to die. It's not selfish actually amelia. Thank you agree. It was too sad. Actually i was stupid. Because i didn't think that was i mean. Yeah we actually find out like halfway through. She's gonna die. But i didn't actually think it was gonna be a sad. It really hurts. It's so sad. I don't get it watching sad even mcgregor. Oh gentlemanly makes you wanna die. Very i've only seen it one other time at stuck with me star wars revenge to sit then. He had an economy failed. You energy that. I was like jesus christ this again. I can't. it's so sad my god. That's so he's he's channeling his it. I wanna talk about him later. 'cause he's my mvp but he doesn't really like angry sad in both of those movies where he's like yelling neighboring and then in this movie when he's like yelling teen you're like no don't create her but he's angry with and he's like crying and sad and singing. Yeah and i thought like maybe they could summon a doctor you know. It sounds like this is in like can we know exactly. This is one thousand nine hundred. Okay we have a jeweled elephant that people are having sex in community dr. Let's sit here. Jesus is all right so we do. What the best. And the worst told a load off each of the best. And we'll get into this and the lighting more specifically but the soundtrack is still. I mean if you've seen this movie. I it's it's difficult to choose a favorite. We're gonna try later but the soundtrack is just really really great. The songs hold up the scenes. Hold up just really great stuff. H the worst and this is a big one. I think this is probably the biggest low light of the movie. I was watching this on amazon. And they do when they pull up the character names on the side. And i had never really looked into this before but i was. I was looking at the character names and listen over the top theatrical thing. I don't expect them to name. Prostitute number. Two like janine. You don't i mean like. I expect someone to be like todd. Like i know that they have the actual aims. What i didn't need was the really gross like syria typing. That happens with the character. Names some of these prostitutes. I guess be calling them. Some of these sex workers in the brothel here some of the names arabia china doll. Shoko lot is played by dobie up. Ray who has like a really big role like he came in from being raped by the duke. Give him a name. Yeah yeah right. Yeah i know that like it goes sort of into the brothel stereotyping back in the day. Like that was how they did it. But i'm like we didn't have this beyond twenty years ago so that was a big downside and then sort of along with that. They did this sort of indian in the musical as their big production. There's like a lot of ethnic stereotyping there as well. That just comes off really gross in bad and just did not as well so just name your characters. It's not that hard. Yeah and then also age the worst they did a new version on broadway recently. A couple of years ago. Starring errands fate and karen olivo and i was really excited for it. I know juliette limit went to see it. We've talked about it link but what they did was updated the songs that are in the medleys so instead of elephant love medley having paul mccartney dolly parton and it does have some of that still instead it has katy perry now they sing fireworks instead of david bowie understand wanting to update it and like making that kind of reference for a new audience. But i don't let that. Like i went to listen to the soundtrack and i was like this isn't what i wanted. God right so that to me was a decision. That didn't age great. Yeah do you want to just keep rolling your next on the list. I will keep rolling. Miami gregor he first of all great singing voice we as a society and mcgregor and more musicals because i think he has some parts and some of these songs are written really well to sort of complement. His voice like he has some moments in like l. Tango roxanne some other ones and your song and come. What may where he disliked. Harmony's really kinda complement his voice. Even if he's like not a singer singer and he just he looks. Great is like peak you and mcgregor heartthrob very romantic extremely in love there. Just some scenes where they cut to him and like singing at nicole kidman and she's not even looking at him and i'm like oh man i'm glad right in the heart yet. Yeah just he just really makes movie. I think if i could give we just double up i would probably pick him to. He probably is like my mvp. But i do have to give some not some credit a lot of credit to nicole. Kidman her all she also like. I was reading some trivia about this movie and she went through a couple of physical injuries it because it was very is very taxing in every way it appeared. I imagine how exhausting it was for her to do this day. In day out every emotion she had to do two hundred percent so her as mvp. Yes amelia. who's your pick. Yeah i mean. I agree with both of you guys. I would say you know what just going to give it to baas lerman. What a what a guy he has. He's always done. These really stylized Sometimes are musicals. Sometimes they're not just really but very like and colorful and fun movies. And i think sometimes you know people make fun of him for because we don't need this but honestly i've never not had fun watching so we should do his romeo and juliet some time of that movie. There's a lot there really. Yeah i would also do australia okay. I didn't hate that movie australia. It's gonna take care right. Yeah all right. Let's see the lightning round before we wrap up is is movie too weird. The right amount of weird or not. Weird enough amelia. I'd say right amount. I agree i get works. Best side character. Kate for me. It's a tie between the singing moon. Who sings backup on several songs like an opera singer. Shirt you may okay and is it kylie minogue so he pronouncing it. Yeah okay. i doubted myself. She plays the green absent ferry so when they like drink absent she appears. And it's like. I'm the green fairy which is just inspired casting. I'm giving it to jim. Brodmann aka professor. He's not. He's a side character breeze a very large this movie. And he's also game of thrones. I was just like to see him. Jim broadbent brings it every time a single project. He's in where you're like. Why jim broadbent. He's the opposite david spade. Like you always want. Jim broadbent idea. You felt so strongly about rocky. I said that too. Guess movie amelia. Who's your favorite character. You know i agree. I love the random kylie minogue. Also now the human mention the moon the moon reminds me of is. Have you ever seen. I'm not that i like okay. Just forget the balloon in the like the bear in the big blue house. It's very similar. Moans right yeah to say well you know. What is the worst song. Kate the worst song. I mean bar none. There's no competition is like a virgin. The madonna song. You all know and love it. But it's performed by jim broadbent and the duke. Who is so creepy. I and basically they're like talking about how the teen is going to come to the duke. And he's gonna be worth it in the end because he gets tea. And and jim broadbent like puts like there's just like playing the woman in this relationship and like chasing around the duke singing like a virgin and creepy. It is nightmare fuel. It haunts me to this day is disgusting. Yeah okay best song. Kate have opinions about this. Obviously i have to give it to come. What may which is like the secret song that christians a teen sort of right for each other where it's like. Even if things are going bad or even if she has to pretend to be in love with the duke like they're going to sing the song and they'll know that their loves what are the great cinematic duets. You know how. I know you love this movie. Is you refer to them exclusively by their character names and not by the actors and actresses which is normally do have rare that is rare like jennifer ashton. This and no we're christian eighteen. Sorry john my other favorite and my actual personal favorite song is l. tango to roxanne which is was mentioned earlier. It is kind of similar vibe to cell block tango as it is a tango version of roxanne by the police and it's sung by the narcolepsy tinian Who again deserve to name. But sure right and he just crushes it. It's so dramatic. Yes mcgregor is singing on it as well and it's just like this dramatic scene nicole kidman in the tower with the duke like christian. Just losing his mind on the ground just great. It's such a good. I guess cover. It's technically a cover of roxanne but really great really dramatic Very dramatic. I still have like his face in my mind. Just i like the your song. Because of elton john and into because. That's when i was like oh these are made by this movie these songs that are bad people okay. That's it i'm on rouge two times unanswerable questions. Kate take it away okay. Too disturbing birthday cakes for children have gone viral this week on twitter. Which like one sherpa too. I was like we should talk about it. The seems to be you know. Are the kids I'm leading to an answerable question here. But i do wanna tell you about the cakes. The first one was from casey fay. He said my knees turned three today. She asked for a lion king cake but specifically the moment where move fossa dies because quote everyone will be too sad to eat the cake and it will be all for me. There are pictures of this cake and literally is on the cliff. They're rocks on it and he's looking a of the corpse of fossa which is just a traumatic childhood moment for any of us who have seen the lion king so that was disturbing. But i was like that's weird moving on but then i saw this week from edmund kingsley. Who said tomorrow. We'll have a six year old and like so many girls her age she insisted on cake depicting the future queen elizabeth the first witnessing the execution of and berlin by henry the eighth well so you zoom in on this cake. And it's henry tudor and amblin and castle cake and is just like a standing in front of the chopping block. And that's the sixth birthday cake so my unanswerable question for you is what is the weirdest birthday theme and or cake that you had growing up obviously not going to be as these. I assume i would love to know not amelia. Do you have any answer for this. No i'm sorry. I'm a little traumatized. I didn't click on these cakes until just now for some reason a lot. The cats i think the kids have had a rough year. Yeah that's why i was like. What did you have like an elaborate birthday theme at any point growing up. Either of you know amelia's to search to the depths of her mind right now. I had to kelly's went out. Went all out snuff for me sweet sixteen. Benny hana's ones. But i did. Actually it's a party favor from fifteen. Give everyone like a little beta fish in a bag and apparently they all died the next day oh task so. That's my dark birthday treat. If you do not have something. I was really the nutcracker when i was young. I texted my mom about this. And she didn't give me an answer. I think this is my weirdest one. But when i was like five i had a nutcracker outfit that i wore everywhere. That's an. I was obsessed with the nutcracker and so my mom made me that looked like the nutcracker head and i had a nutcracker birthday but then like since we were triplets. We had we each got a theme and my brother would be like pirates and my sister was like ferries. And i was like dresses the nutcracker so i think that was my weirdest work for your mom thing no we couldn't god wasn't ambled in our move fossey's murder true there's feel like a social media has made it so easy to to go viral. If you just avert the expectations right that's there is that aspect of it. I do agree. It's a little like did she really ask for an amber lynn cake. Can why does a six zero. The beheading of imola rights. Yeah yup. I'm just thinking questions. Milkshake duck bamble in cakes. Sounds okay. I will question this week and it is. Are you guys ready for light academia which is apparently gonna replace cottage court. According to in style so to me it seems extremely similar and also should not be confused with the dark academia which came educated us all on so late. Academia apparently is just like the the romantic taylor swift version which also alzheimer's you cottage core. Which is confusing by anyway. It's it's preppy. It's like tennis skirts. Loafers sweaters nodded around your shoulders The influences are doing. Are you guys ready. And would you ever participate in light academia to me. I feel like it's still cottage courses. I'd -demia seems like a fall thing. Like if we're gonna do the light or dark academia outfits like i clicked on this and saw a lot of platt i saw some like try light blazers not sit. That's a september at the earliest visor. We gotta take cottage core into summer. I don't know what we're gonna do during the summer. Come up with something different and then get into the academia fashions in the fall. Are you going to get into the academia fashions in the fall. You know i love a blazer. So maybe i was doing on any. I didn't know that it was like academia. But i will take credit for that. Serve a million. What do you feel about this trend. You know there's a lot of sweaters going on and as you may know talk out. I am sweaty person. So they don't work for me. You know i mean. Maybe if i'm just wearing like a barrage but like i liked you layer. Yeah yeah you know. Minnesota mentored maybe get more into either way. It's too soon. it's too soon for this too soon. That's fine lastly saving the best for last takeaway amelia so the other day i was on spotify or i don't know what i was doing but i was like listening to the tap music because i know you know libya rodriguez sour came out but then we also had bt s Kind of usurping her little moment. Because i think they're like the number one stream song number on spotify and on the billboard. Whatever whatever but i listened to their new song butter and wouldn't you know. I am obsessed with the song. It is so fucking good. So i need a rundown and who better to go to than kate. I mean i need to know what other songs i should be listening to. I need a general synopsis of bt s and each of the members. Because they're all like from what from the music video. I saw butter. They're all very charismatic. They're all singers. They're all dancers. they're all cute. Which you know. I mean not every boy brand you know it's like who was the fan of joy towns on it. It's just kinda surprising because what seven of them. They're seven amelia. I've been waiting my whole life for this moment to tell you we've done fifty seven and a half minutes on this podcast. This is a special challenge for to keep this brief. And i knew this was coming and so i'm going to try to keep it brief. I'm not going to give you the whole lowdown. Here's what i'm gonna do. I got a text from danny fits two weeks ago and he said we've been in a k. Bbq place for two and a half hours that we've watched so many music videos in a row where obsessed and what he asked me was. I want you to tell me which member i am which i saw a great question. I was like this is a great personality test. Let me think and so inspired by that. I thought maybe i would do what we do. A lot on this podcast and match the teatime member to give you seven gonna get to all of them. But i'm really briefly. Just because i feel like you need. You just need something to hook you. you know. it's not enough to be like the person with gallo hair is so and so right now. Maybe it'll be like james mcevoy updates like bcs member update right right. Sorry is to tell you very briefly which be where you are and then i can just direct you to more information. Try to keep this brief and really gonna try. But i know everything about them with okay so i want. I want to apologize to junk. Tae-young just not gonna make the cut for today again. There are seven of them. And i want to of them so i don't leave anyone out the fans get very upset when you leave someone out on john. My favorite so no shade to him. It's fine so first of all. I told danny that he is our em and i think i also am r. m. is the stage name for bt ss leader. Israel names nam june. And i think danny and i are the same member. Because we're both like just kind of nerdy i think were both kind of endearing nerds closet nerds if you will as our am is. He's the one you've probably seen like interviews. He speaks english. He's wanting to talk english from friends and so he is kind of the voice of the group when they're in america funny He also writes a lot of their songs. And danny and i both right for the site. So that's who i assigned as our permit issued member of bts as for teatime. Start with kaya. I would say kaya as most like gin who is the oldest member of bt s kai is the youngest member of times that doesn't match however i think once you get into bcs you realize that he's sort of vitals like the offstage dynamic. He does a lot of like the moral support. Oh he's kind of the mom of the group is very responsible is good with people kinda holds things down. I liked it quite a showy But i think the real ones now that like gin is like very important to the group. Sent me a heart in the chat. Okay i thought both those in a million. I think we're top soon. As i told myself to do this. I was like this is actually quite difficult. That's funny but i'm committed. I'm inside. Liz is like jimin. Who is one of the vocalists and main dancers and this is a very simple explanation. He has a very distinctive recognizable. Very sweet little voice off. That's pretty self explanatory voice of the wringer podcast network Just like no one has ever listened to beats yes song who knows. Bts and been like well if that's demand or not because his voice was just very recognizable very popular and he's also very sweet organizing zaveri very harbor so okay and that amelia was the hardest so you get to members as you can see ya. The first member is suga who is members of the rap. Line start out as a hip hop group and has recently kind of transition to pop. That's interesting yeah So his real name is and he's kind of a fan favorite. He looks very sweet. Very cute i think is the shortest member but once you get into his music you realize he has this sneaky like fuck around and find out attitude So he has a lot of very aggressive solo work. He has some mix tapes. These really like very aggressive and amelia also has some solo work of her own where she yells into a microphone that she's clutching very tightly about the bachelor so i just felt like that match a for sure fan favorite. I think the rap line fits very well because like they don't get as many lines as the other as the other people but then like they have the fan favorite lines like if you go into the youtube. Everyone's talking about like this one line. You know you go to our twitter account and everyone's talking about amelia. Her monologue on kirsten dunst so hanan rate and then the other member that i think amelia is similar to is jay. Hope who's awesome rap line. He's also main dancer. Any has a very infectious vibe. He has a very happy energy. He's leads the dance break in butter and he is just very energetic. Very full of life like when amelia was talking about ink master earlier like this is jay energy he gets so excited about things like that and just goes and goes as these are your assigned beats member. I'm happy to tell you more about them or anyone else in the group but if you're the listeners wanna do any research on your own we have many many beats yes related. Sorry very sorry to give you homework. I promise i'm wrapping this up. Did a top five podcast on dish Last year with glee and with young. Kim who wrote a book about ats and we just links down. We'd shit our favorite songs favorite. Bcs music videos. It's a very easy place to start. I would say. I have a lot of blogs on the wringer about data about their hair from twenty twenty probably most useful would be added a ranking of every album leading up to their seventh album in two thousand twenty. That's like a good kind of breakdown of their big songs. And i have not done that recently because the fans got really mad missed probably the last year in terms of my writing however i have been known i like to make very personalized recommendations. I don't like to be like. Here's nick because that's too much Have been known to make power points for friends. Who get into a certain k pop group but don't know where to start of like professional level like i don't make it for the amateurs going to be like to have a basis however Amelia since you said you like butter specifically i wanted to recommend some similar vibes. yes So sort of colorful upbeat videos songs performances. Here's what i recommend boy with love. Which is their song. Halsey okay from twenty twenty dna. Which i believe is from twenty eight team which is also like a really good just like intro to beats yes like upbeat song online which is like really kind of funny comedic songs. My sister's favorite song health gogo which is also like upbeat funny idol which was their single a couple years ago. An airplane part two which is also a single from a couple years ago so those are all like similar energy to butter. I'm sorry this went for very long time. Great been waiting for this moment for so long. Did how long a million. I talk about survivor and make you just tried to make it concise if anyone wants to know more about slide into the mentioned the text me whatever. I know. This is great. Hey i asked for it and so much more in a good way three. I'm so glad. Thank you very good okay. That's it for this week. Thank you kaya our producer and thank you for listening. I'm worse kelly meyer.

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The Grunge: Red Hot Chili Peppers - One Hot Minute

Rock N Roll Archaeology

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The Grunge: Red Hot Chili Peppers - One Hot Minute

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Welcome to the grunge. We are the world's greatest podcast exploring sex drugs and rock and roll. Joseph rose and. I'm jeremy would hello again jerry. Hello there was not even a cool off period. Just recently started this thing. We just had to restart the podcast because jerry ruin winded. Not shut the fuck. This was that was a collaborative effort. Right there it was primarily you fucking it up though shutoff cob. that's true that's that's not true. It's a again. It's your opinion your show run everything. Make sure that it's fine. I'm just here to just be a sounding board. Oh i don't know what the fuck band is. I don't like this. I give it a b. I just summed up the whole fucking participation in the show. Who's this okay. I've never heard this before. All right is sort of funky. Or i don't like it. I have to listen to someone. Talk about how this is cissy music. Okay just i don't know we. You didn't even give it a minute. We're gonna restarted. Click you why would you wanna to give it a minute for. I don't know discuss what went either all of your part. Just kidding jerry. But i mean. But i'm not i i think you're i think that was a confrontational sort over again. We talk about something that people aren't going to here. It's a mystery bonus content. it's a bonus episode bonus up. We don't have enough fucking bonus. Episodes is christ. I hope you're satisfied was tossed. I'm happy as clam now. Listen how was your day. what would you do. Oh well today. I woke up we to have a fucking gummy already. So we got forty five minute countdown here. But the Really had to go to work for a little bit came back then. I took my my daughter on a hike. We went on a hike to a pond. That was fun. Came back at dinner. Did this so fun about it. It was nice. There were a lot of ducks. My daughter loves ducks. you know. Child doesn't love ducks and birds fun to look at. Yeah i was surprised they were there. It's cold it's cold as hell fucking cold burt. Those ducks were out there doing it the right way. They're stupid tatum. mind. I haven't gone to florida. I don't know why they even the migrate. I'm maybe i'm a dullard in some respects. I don't understand why. I don't understand why these dogs don't leave they have. They have wings role. I would there. There isn't one minute of the year that i would be here. If i had wings i could just fucking fly away. I'm outta here yeah. I wouldn't be here when i didn't drive for awhile. I always thought man teleportation. That's the way as soon as somebody figures that shit out the world is going to be a better place. Yeah it's just a i going to do it. The east coast. I was reading some shit about like you know he was He was he was commenting on the game's stop of stock thing. There was a stop shot. Shot up to three hundred thirty three dollars. A share or something like that. And i'm no investor but i was like what before most of the shifts in malls and malls are dying so i was shocked by it and apparently he's got like i think it was. Cnn cnn leans heavily left heavily left. You know so. The mosque covid denier. Kovic skeptic cova skeptic trump supporter. i'm like what the fuck is going on. they just yuan. musk entrepreneur. whatever they were like elon. Musk cova denier really. That's i don't think i think. Cnn was being a real dick about yes. that's true. actually. I don't i don't think so either. You know but cova denier trump supporters twitter. All of those things are false. I i think they're straight up lying. I don't fucking know it was on. Cnn in he typed on on twitter game stunk and everyone went up. you know. i don't know what that even means any and they've just lambasted on comb the super elite like damn cnn. It's not even about him. Is the super elite. They yeah that would be considered. I think he'd be super elite. Yeah i mean the jeff bezos dudes fucking real elite Bill the some of those guys are neck and neck as far as like wealth. Bill gates ilan mosque the corpse of the apple guy. He's good. I don't know if they count him anymore. Now steve jobs steve jobs been going for a while. Real long. Time still has mba a turtleneck. That's a good. Look if you're going to pick one. Look it's really only a good look for steve jobs if i did. It wouldn't be round now in foolish. You had a line that killed it. What what should we do now. Jerry yemeni information to give us or anything you want to set the scene. What the hell said the scene of september twelfth nineteen ninety guys. I guess we should mention. We're talking about an album called one hot minute from the old red hot chili peppers. We just had some communication about the chili peppers right. What was it was that. Taylor stober taylor road in wondering about the red hot chili peppers and this is not in response to that. This was already on the schedule for this place in nineteen ninety five because it was a noteworthy album that came out in the year was a successful sort of significant album. And it's one that i enjoy quite a bit. I think in the premiere of who i think was the white version of prince. As far as guitarist is concerned. Dave navarro i always thought he look like prince and he at first he didn't when he came out he was. He used to wear t shirts like just breaking the t shirts. Good head of hair still wore the sunglasses because you're a rockstar. Sure and then he started wearing like frilly robes and you know and and yeah we sure. Get wild for a while. Because he wasn't jane's addiction. Before i remember them there and He came over this way and he just looked normal and then went fucking haywire and no one's normal maturity peppers chad you know is enormous chad. Norman chad might the tackiest fucking one in the whole band history. John i mean the the one guy died the foreign guy which guy the first one died the overdose was that hillel slovak dial or i don't even overdose so don't quote me on that. I don't wanna slander. The man we'll see from texas. Yeah rodeo. and then he Is one of the actually know the names of the members. Yeah chad at chad for then there was the other guy john fashanu. Yeah all over. This album does not like this. He he thinks this There's an interview him saying like this is just music because the record company wanted it to be made real Yet he wasn't on the album by the way he was by dave navarro so like he was like. It doesn't sound like chemistry. It sounds like he was just sitting on it. Because he wasn't all he was just a salty motherfucker super upset with that he later came back right and if they come coming gone about nineteen eighty s. I think navarre onto albums they just recently threw out the guy. That's been in the band for like ten years because for shanty decided to come back he just said art. I wanna come back. So they threw out the guy that has been loyal to them. Josh klinghoffer it happened to just fucking threw him out. it was. This happens with a couple of bands where there was a guy where people i think guns in verses didn't yet they have a guitar player that kicked up. Now i forget well slash left you know all the original guys were gone and they had you know a cast of people in between You know in knocking them at the box. I think sabbath had something without know- ness abbot. Who was it was all sabbath. Well they had their deal with dio but they've also had a drummer issue over the years with sabbath. So timing is for sunday that good that you would kick out a guy you've been in the run the road with. Yeah i mean you know. Good is subjective but they have a a an ingrained fucking relationship with him in in that band that's existed for so long and end been fruitful musically for sure anything sometimes. It's a gimmick like. Oh back with john for sean. Mcvay comes love it. People love it when for shanti comes back with anybody now with he's back don henley neil young back to you know and he did at one point but he's been a couple of its you yangs going to be there. People who will people will stampede for that yeah. I don't know why. I think of say don henley and i get angry don henley. What's up with that. I don't like the eagles. I know there's a lot of talk about the eagles either. But they are. They're a good band. I don't like them like them. They when we did the best selling album the green day when we wrote down with rent down the list things still number one. Eagles are number one. Eagles greatest hits a off the number one selling album. Which is okay. That's what a that is a real head scratcher that one. That's easy it seem so easy to make millions of dollars off. I mean is that just hotel california. There's another one on there. I mean is that that's responsible for that right but more so than any other out desperado. People buying it for desperado. More than any other album the world into it makes. No sense makes no zeppelin on that list. Pink floyd yeah and they have. The eagles greatest credit is not their albums. I'll tell you what hotel california great song can't get around it. It's a great song phone but there's a version of that song that the eagles did you know forever. The the line hanley in some of the boys would use his. Yeah we'll get back together when hell freezes over and they got back together and they did a whole special on vh one. I believe it was called. Hell freezes over and the show was just really well done. it was just very well produced. It was well recorded and the version of hotel. California from that show is a really great. I really love the actual recording of it. The sound of it the mix they got is just and the performance. It's really it's a sauna also has one of the few song actually. It says night bird in. Yeah i think somewhere in there who talking to somebody says night bird to find it. I think night bird really said the night burn. I think i'm thinking bird. Yeah night bird. I don't that's not ringing a bell to me. I don't know Jerry maybe hotel california lyrics but Yeah i hold on look up some night bird lyrics. I'm going to get into a little information for a moment for we wait to long one hot. Minute is the sixth studio album by american rock band. Red hot chili peppers released on the twelfth of september nineteen ninety-five by warner brothers records. The worldwide success of the band's previous album blood sugar sex magic caused guitarist john for shanty to become uncomfortable with their popularity. Eventually quitting mid tour in nineteen ninety-two vocalist. Anthony kiedis who had resumed addictions to cocaine and heroin in nineteen ninety-four after being sober for more than five years approached his lyricism with a reflective outlook on drugs. And they're harsh effects. It is the only studio album to feature dave navarro. As the band's guitarist dave navarro joined the band in ninety three after a series of short term replacements for for shanty the album was produced by rick rubin who had also produced the band's prior album one hot minute sold more than two million copies and was certified for certified multi platinum and reached number four on the billboard. Two hundred nevertheless jerry. It was considered a commercial disappointment because it sold fewer than half as many as blood. Sugar sex magic and received much less acclaim. Navarro was fired in nineteen ninety eight due to his drug. Use these sons of bitches cannot get it together california. So did you find any bird information. I don't don't feel. I had to stop for the. I guess i just made that up. I thought i'd been saying for years. What line are you referring to. He stood in doing what. I'm trying to trying to find where i would think there. What anytime figured out all these years you your whole life. You've been singing a line. Lives there man. track number. One is warped the intros longer. I thought because. I don't need to hear that toronto by forty eight. Listen to the barrow. Talk about how he constructed trip. Deep end the river through a video for this right. I believe this baby the lead single. I thank the looks. I don't think they'll bring up california on his. let's hope that's on everyone of their things. They love that they love that. The hell you boys. i don't. i never made a bit offended. I remember this. say something. Crazy dummy okay. This is up for debate. And i'm sure it will be hotly debated amongst those who give a fuck but this could be my saying. It is but it could be amongst the very best of the red hot chili peppers despite its oddball. Status in their catalog does not ready. Only one with navarro a commercial disappointment despite commercial success. Two million copies ain't nothing to sneeze at. I'll take two million fucking give me plan. Yeah i don't know. I think it's a unique cole album with some cool shit on it threat. A we'll find out we'll give it a listen through. But i'll tell you it's right up there with my favorite of their album. I thought i. I know songs his out. But then i threw in other songs like the heads. Song like the What do mean you through breaking. The girl i thought that was on this job and Not and sold a sweet okay. That was the coon heads. Yeah all that stuff was before this really. Yeah yeah so. This is just the aeroplanes. The only thing that i know of he does something. There's some chance on this. There's some real gems breaking the girl love that song. There's a jam on here coffee shop. Where fully fucking goes absolutely beserk on his face and it is so out lee. Yeah you're a bass player do you even think of league. He's awesome. he's awesome He's not like. I never personally identified like my face playing in a way that like i never idolized bass player. Other than to really respected blazed face playing because he's a great basis. He's really good at his phone flipper funky. That's his deal And i never was that guy on the pace. I never was looking to play like fli. But i appreciate plea. He's a bad motherfucker. Animated like you take out of the valley. Titas good deed is a good personality as far as the lead singer good personality. He's a very good personnel for sure. Fun front man. They have a good. They have a sound and at either one of them except for john day. Navarro the guy i mean. They're pretty static to take guitar player being a thing but everyone everyone has one position in the band where it's like ever came jams had some drama but the three of the guys that matter still there and pat smear. I think he makes on. This guy doesn't indicate but again at our. I don't think that's true. I think. I think i put pap smear at everything pat smear. I don't believe there's ever been a member of the red hot chili. I don't know. I'm wrong i'm wrong. I know i'm wrong. I know they had a guy named rick. Marshall name of chili peppers call pat smear performance. Okay out tourist pat smear okay. Hat's mir was fighters. Maybe we know that maybe chilly is all right. Okay hey he ever make an affects and do it tonight. Singing the wrong there. Everyone's from tested every single night. Bird from tech track to aeroplane fun little jam. I never gave that much of a fuck about it. But it's nice as i remember the video fun video and not a bad jim. I'm just saying elected doing things like this. I can't hate spun anything. I'm so serious Heavily addicted a lot of people were drugs gets a miracle. Only one person can play interview to discuss your growl now. You're of this song of his album. Is this a dark well. Let's play mother fucker. Slapped me thaw out damn. He's jerry super prolific songwriting craftsmanlike. There's nothing off the table with a bass player he's got a c does the flee thing and it's a good price it's not as limiting as we are about system of a now where i mean. Look he's a funky bass player. He's gonna be a funky bass player show in a band like this. This is what you want he works. It's a big part of the sound of this and the any of these people on the side right now. Now something just fit man here jerry. You wanna fun little update. We mentioned recently. That are man pete from australia. He was kind enough to select a record that he thought he would like to hear and shift me a copy of it on vinyl wonderful. You know beautiful conduct on his part. Now it's been tied up and shipping. I had a tracking number. Saudi sent and it was god knows where for help buck and long tracking number says it was delivered today and i go check and as luck would happen. I got a record to actually got to records today but the one that matters in this case is this record from. I opened up the powder package and in it is another record package. Paul cardboard double package. Okay slightly unusual define unusual but a little extra protection. Let's open it up. So i opened up the second package. What do i find jerry. I find a copy of fleetwood. Mac's courageous hits. Okay and i'm like what the fuck is this. I'm pretty sure. This is not what pete sent me. I have heard of fleetwood mac before. Check the shipping. And it's it's shipped. It's built to and ship to a man in canada. Okay wait mary sitting there looking. He's waiting for everybody's waiting. Some schlub in canada's got a copy of fleetwood. Mac greatest bro. If you listen to this podcast. You're not getting that record just so you know but anyway the wrong fucking record was shipped to me after all this bullshit. Thank u p. Yeah listen to task. And i know it's not even good fleetwood mac. It's like old fleetwood. Mac and stevie nicks fleetwood. I don't know about that. Yeah yeah again lindsey buckingham best of you know like the shit. I think it's it might be. It's free lindsey buckingham. Like there's no. There's no lindsey or aby or cement to send you. Yeah well he sent me a real piece of shipley facts. Yeah dude just too. Many people missing for fleetwood. Mac that fleetwood mac. Hey that was aeroplane coming up on track three. This is called deep kick ice jerry deep kick. It's getting to throw the good ones a cute little jam. It started with little kids. Free spirits that already tormented given to us by our parents got together desks and slept in logarithms. Snow and slip through. Whatever cracks confined minds altered falter train. Hysterical and tragic characters is really Weaving a tail. And there's no drums. He's got like thirty seconds. Getting a little spacey's are leaving trail. They were off drugs by this point. Right well no oh good. They're still draws. I think there were drugs at play. Comments fan decided laughing. I think he's very proud of native american heritage and he got a lot of nba tattoos. This guy killed customers sitting bull. That a you know yeah. So that's what he's got. He's got a lot of native american. I actually watched the interview and he where he was an italian. He started explaining. Is fucking town. Cosatu that i saw. I did read anthony's book scar tissue some years ago when it came out in the thing and i don't remember a whole lot about Some things but hey kick. After his day we got kicked. I would it be that into something. Just do that noises. Interview him saying he didn't give a fuck if he was censored of place. Thank you to be censored the explicit. There i don't shit about that like his foreign television. I always cursing his. Ask p certain i. I couldn't imagine a chili peppers anthony. But i'm not a total fan of his name. yeah yeah he's got. His moments is nice a little bit a huge deep red hot chili peppers fan. You know there's not a lot of their records that i go spend time with. I take a bunch of this album. And i really like calif- occasion that one might be my favorite but this is right up there. I mean look this. Got some weird shit on. We're listening to find by that. But us a real good. But i guess if i had to pick one that is my favorite california like blood sugar sex match that shit to draw some there with heavy units along album leave with his falsetto. There's flee vocals on this out. fleet does lead vocals. he thinks a track. We'll get into later called t. and it's a good one people we look at him. He sounds like you think he sounds clearly. There are some people who talk to you. And he's like mike tyson. Mike tyson you would have. I be like oh god. You've taken aback by his voice. Yes the fleet. That's fine the right on the money. Just relay his his head moving around a lot shit into iraq. One of my first experience disband seeing them in the anti pitas in the ice cube wicked video. Oh yeah you're in the beginning of ripping the house of our ashra of who that that's not the guy i remember Though and look at these admire. Bill suck my. I don't know what it was. Suck my kiss whenever the suck my kiss something and is that the guy with the under the tat. This taint shot. Remember the teen shot to. There's camera point if it away. Give it away and then and they were. All gold was painted gold school. I've always wanted to be the guy with the horns in the water that was that was a cool video. Hell yeah they do okay videos. These guys shoulder squeeze was a good one. And i think the biggest hit. I think they will ever have for me or anybody. In our age group would be under the bridge under the bridge under the bridges iconic. I had that mazzy star. I think came out around the fade into you. There's two songs. Maybe you're separated actually for massive worried it locally play here crazy sic going on this bari. Here i don't know if i like it or not but like it's definitely effort or drugs. Hope it ends with the anthony. Finishing story that he told the five minutes on his song. I think maybe he finished it few episodes where the music actually saved the show. What do you mean because we were a group nine a groove at first you ruin it. Okay you've ruined you've ruined it track for my friends. This is a good one camp. One day we'll be prince off gassing here maybe we would have you whatever just be. Yeah dig this. Jim income the little jan curve march downstairs. What do you think of this jer. Not into this. i'm okay with simmer not terribly impressed. I think as maybe just say. I've always count him as one of the leading american frontman contemporary. Yeah yeah he's definitely he's better frontman than he is. A singer was without hit on. I'm not sitting on them at all. I mean i think van halen pearl jam. Chili peppers can't be that far down list as a the better american rock band aerosmith van halen usually successful band hugely successful band over the years long career. I mean look this album from ninety five. Was there a album or sixth album or something. So i mean they'd already had six ninety five and they've been cranking them out since then see. I would have greatest you with doing the same thing with saint people over and over again is you know use it. You can do different things that people may maybe wanted to beat. People hate playing hits as they go through musical journey. Know this whoa you say route four songs in not a lot of these sound sound the same. Yeah that's that's true. Lake it more than i like that. Well i try it. We liked what we liked. Try but like this. Not everything they've done. They've got they've done different things. Yeah i'm digging. That he was one of the reasons. We like the faith in the more albums. Much track number five coming up next coffee shop. This is i mentioned earlier. Generally fun rocker of a song. But boy does fli fucking get wild on his gin on the fucking bass solos rips bass solo just while going onto the backer. Third wear a can jay l. try the pop starbucks. You'll be removed. The put daddy of reassure back on the il fleece spaces bucket point. This whole van he rips up bass solo in this thing. That is like like. It feels like why not guitar. Solo would come but it's clearly instead and he just bought and goes for it if it sounds like he's hurting himself up line slapping hell out of that thing. Okay one he rips another later logo another here shit murdering this. Shell recover from that. You're going to see more song. He's gonna go Late so much fun i love. There's a lot you can do you always when you hear people do the unexpected great. Let me just start fucking track number six feet a little speaking a flight I gotta give al so big ups already. Got my my vote of confidence skirt. Campfire song One of us think we can sing. I like a pacifist. The shit a small jam do fuck. I want this song playing wherever i recently got a. gb l. speaker that carry around. And i walked out of work playing the shafting yesterday. This is everything to me. This peop- he's laying now. He walked into a room. Terry's theme team so so. I just imagined this jam had to be a real thumper day you could see you add. Turner put drums drums auto jobs on this jam guitar guitar. Okay track number. Seven one big. Bob apiece playing a fuck blades you. Have you ever had like that guitar player gets all this you know. They lead guitarist. Well my last ban proved that you don't even need them at all. Like i have a band. That sounds like i have two guitar players. I have zero and it all from my base really. Yeah i got a wild bring. One day i'll tell you it's awesome and i will learn drums. I wish you would at three years. That would be the brightest butler drums. If you you can be like a pretty good basic drama a year we should immediately do then we could be like the twins despite all the greatest the greatest one california waiting. They probably have. We just missed my favorite ever. This is a lot of freeman like it. I'm a fan of this jerry. I had some of my favorite pizza in the world today. That's arrived circles and squares square philadelphia. Pa at the funding for play circles squares were thought that they make circles and squares. My braver is the square pepperoni favorites. I had a collie flower pizza today and it was like a piece of shit. I will never do it again. What would possession anyone the cross. I'm trying to low carbs them back on the back on it ever since the champagne and wine it up everybody's ass be better and then Never do that to pizza. It up my ass. No army never do cauliflower. Oh it was a fast race asian because it uses pizza or is this paste fuck is going on now. The baby in this sort of baby the baby. Jesus chili peppers baby out of the studio that fleet baby give be one of those dolls. This is back in the eighties and seventies. They made it could be a guitar. I literally those real looking babies from these. Then you flip them over day there. Is you put a backup fucking and one is always know slight wreck. Never any clues meaning actually. Apparently the crack baby is a bit there. I was watching this documentary. Netflix's called crack trash all that. Yeah you remember thinking. They were like harms. In the preview comes in with such impact as i was like rubin crack song is right now. holy shit. I just wanna watch this for the song it doesn't it doesn't really revisit. It grandma was it a good movie. Czar is it. Is it a movie. It's a documentary film about eighty people government now then. Oh like chuck schumer's there you know it's those guys. Don't go away. Man is insane biden. Do they do they touch on his nice crime. Bill do they get their now. They've gotten to the They did it. The bill clinton but then bill clinton okay when bush so they were all the blame for all that shit and they don't like to talk about biden and the crime bill anymore is mostly trying to paint the students that good. It was some something was shunted in there by reagan. Getting shot arash cracks not bad watching but the point of that was one of the doctor said that crack crack baby epidemic was written by a guy who had no there was only to crack babies apparently ever ever that were ever addicted to cocaine on prenatal. Mara i'm done with this song track. Walkabout this is a good one. A austrialian pete. Here we go. let's do it. Thank you for the fleetwood mac. S semi some more random classic rock greatest hits the best of all just a stock picture of the month. Bobby dare you don't include any stevie nicks. Gm jeep stevie nicks out of. I don't give a fuck about three with macintosh. See they double packages so like this might occur. Safe the keith. They don't don't damage. Listen to the ship. Lease the star here. I think i'll go along out. What assaulted by just me am lack that they've never blocked. Eighty tech perspective. Need to try. And get a bitterest jerry komo mac blood jerry karabelas in my. I love good base in a good rhythm section. I know it's funny to say. But i it's probably the reason stone. Love charlie watts. I love the way he plays. Harry you just reminded me i watts rolling stone shit today dummy i was i started in thing related to sympathy for the devil of course but then i just got into looking at some cool shit of the stones doing sympathy for the devil and i stumbled upon this show. This special that was made. I think it's nineteen sixty five. Maybe yet thank you. Maybe wasn't was. Could it have been visit the The c- tonics majesty thing john lennon in it Every fucking out it was this. Tv special thing and it was like the rolling stones like rock and roll circus or something. And it's fantastic. Yeah that's the stones performances are so good and the look of it is so great and the stone sounded great. It was great. I eat rolling stones guy. Like i'm not all deepen the stones catalog but i appreciate them and a whole bunch of their jams. Of course a lot of this. God damn it was cool. That was a huge response. Do you know already peppers and shit. And they were the beatles the fray big change to believe john lennon was actually in this special the who made a brief appearance and there was like a band. I forget what they called. It was just like a little put together. Bands track with lenin in in the band and was like a few rain. Mother do it. Wasn't the beatles. Lennon was just. They're doing vocals. I think with who. I didn't even watch that part. I didn't give a fuck about john lennon or any of my just wanted to see the stones and it was really good at. It was if i'm thinking it's the same one with the two thousand light years from home. Which is if i'm wrong. I probably am but it's a great green day. Two thousand years from screen. Take thing very loan. The your Thousand from home like yours. Hey this is walkabout. Yeah okay twenty. How sounds a little bit like evidence in nice at. I'm not near. I'm nowhere near liking much of that. Yeah evidence faith no more. Everything does i should love. And yet i'm immune to it shouldn't be know eddie job. It just doesn't sound you know like there's any candidate three sound like date. I need to be bar dude. You're busy on heroin. Twig with the like. I don't want to have successful as you get more heroin that way or heroin. The more wreckage yourself. I would hate the budget. Local bands are like. Oh that's good. That's good advice. Don't side before dropping into successful. He's the one that wrote the commercial as album. Why did you write such commercial as riffs. John fashanu welcome back on track nine. Tear jerker this is a good one as well. You name a tear jerker this one. In the beginning. He sings about a person in address. Who was so beautiful or whatever. I believe that person is kurt. Cobain who was wearing address. I think this is the song. Could you turn to jack. Yes we go turning it up decisively positive reference to her for me hoping that was a now what the demand to justify I i saw a bag. Love you but alone bad. Oh you to bill de right there over up. Guess long Ooh this is try. Good so the durable really like it one of my favorites on the album. See her main stand in between me and love and the song. It's a beautiful song written about. I love it so much. We don't know about kirk now. Yes well he just said how he looked and how he just wanted to be or whatever the hell was after we'd love give be more love. Why curtin as open as this. Here's here's anthony. Porn is hard out about how we loved her and he wanted her to love him too. And i of course would never give anybody any fucking props started too far back in the past people have stopped talking about it every once in a while. I get a notification that someone makes a comment on the youtube video of the never mind episode isn't blocked cer-shirt away but which so many episodes get locked most of our episodes. Don't fuck it up on youtube because they get locked but somehow never mind is up there. Away says was the first one. I ever dealt with any below back on like a regular facebook instagram stories. What do you mean says like two hundred twenty two hundred twenty two st. I've never seen a not necessarily out. Holla never seen that happy shot at is weird and not even on the weather hits. That was tear jerker about that. Kirkeby was bad guy. Track ten one hot minute fatal drag. It'll track of the album if it's not a minute be mad as if it's only a minute long perfect space flee have your song of his out we dealt with this other ways but the heaviest song of the album named their out right and nothing else sounded like that and other lead singer of the time i did work. Yeah it was often shirtless early. I mean you know then again. This man was often shirtless or naked. Sedaris socks i remember. I saw a great interview with chad smith. The drummer he was the original drummer. Jack irons was actually the original At some point you know. Chad joined the ban and one of the first things they were do. They he had to do as a member of the band was. I think it was a photo. Shoot or something where. They all had a sock just on their dicks the rolling stone foods. Yeah and so he just gets in the band and like right away. They're like our. Here's what we're doing. We're just going out and we're gonna go naked with a sock and she's like oh shit fucking now joined the band. And that's oh okay. We're doing what now going on the ongoing uncovered rolling stone. Maybe we what funny Davis came out and september and one of the facts that i saw that. That's happened factor. This was Will ferrell join zarate. Live the same day that will we gaffe this release. And i think chad's chad and him or like d'appel gan yes. Yeah it is. It is pretty weird that that happens. We'll barrels the drummer to really them to Tonight show yeah special gas. I went to today to pick up a couple of or sort of. I didn't have anything in mind. I needed to get i was. I brought my kid and we were sort of scouting out some stuff for his room. Just trying to get some ideas of. What are we trying to do here. I know we do the same thing. And i walked out of that ikea with nothing but swedish snacks. We didn't buy anything and then we're down there in the place as snacks. Let's look for some snacks. I bought some fucking like frozen snacks. Industry michael here for some snack. Your fair share of allen wrenches there so this was one hot minute track. Eleven falling into grace starring flee the beginning perry avenue in heaven a lot of layers up box thing in my left ear to about this ain't Woman here's athlete woman woman. How about that fucking dentist. Thanks go out diarrhea base. If you would always sleep that noise this could be an when like the old cars throughout the data the morrow looks like a rockstar but there was a great there was a as on. Tv remember. They were like they were shows where people were like. Pick up chicks and how to get noticed in all that other stuff. The guy who was across david barrow. Scott scott scott weiland. They would wear top hats. The lord hat yai frilly codes and diva barrel. The tattoo tattoo reality show right now. Dave navarro. tomorrow's and he's not a tattoo artist is not. He's just a celebrity judge. He hosted the show. Gajah going to say mean he has to think he gives if he does look like it right him. It looks like a guy who would judge good head of hair to lousy still. Just just a pre sure. it's not naturally that woah. sure never. you're not again. I think of overnight. You've never died a young man. Oh i was a kid i did. I had a black face. My hair was black for good wild but he looked at as the day long sale back. Then no beard. It was weird. We didn't have a beard back then. I never had long hair and a beard together. Never had they would eat. Maybe long hair and beard. Basil be fifty. Even when you're like twenty two. Never jesus hair. Good great nice. Jesus eric a popular look for like heavy metal tunes nice beard and salon there and there was an album cover for death incident or some metal band that came out. Hey track twelve of thirteen. Shallow be by game and it was called the accidental death or something like that and he came out the same day this came out and it was brutal album cover ever seen like some dudes head caved in this death. Metal put people on the front car accident victims and shit see thorough sticking outside the head guy. I got a fine. I don't want what is it. What what is the point of. Well just i was looking through albums that came outside. One of them like shallow. Be that game and philip at underground at now never ninety five. I don't their read. Write dead by then. Ninety five dollars would connect with me here. i think it's tedious. That keeps me from lightning this band. A lot of doing just am. I hear this. No doubt each guy. I think he's a lot better than no. No i'm not gonna even put him. He's yeah he's way above younger. Whatever but the talented musicians behind. It was so strong like doubt work because using with good. I don't think it was seen by a long shot. But he's not bad. I just don't sit out my cup of tea. He works sometimes is not for me. This sounds different other bucket truck pretty early. It's getting more of that. Trashing june end. Polio still ruled the roost. Though as far singles are concerned at this talk. These guys add to avoid that shit garage. Carey's fantasy zoo gives coming up. I would like to listen to that. We're going to look at her back in the day. God damn onto ninety five mile. i can't you maximize job beautiful. Oh yeah that that phase okay and up at my favorite. Not my favorite mariah. But honestly if i may. I don't know for sure but i'm kind of into real old school. Like debut mariah carey the natural curly hair Real subtle pretty. Look i liked that. As married with tommy mottola. She eventually got with. Tommy mottola there. It is dead infection a chapter of accident away this sure. Don't it's terrible. Don't go look up then infection. That original album like vision of love Mariah carey my shit. I sometimes i think. I think toni. Braxton is terribly underrated. And when i think of that era toni. Braxton came out literally for years. After that when i think of voices like there's only a couple of songs that made me feel something. Visual love was like that that use bumps and on break my heart. What was the one. I'm putting my heart by toni. Braxton into a tizzy. there's something about that song so sincere you know. What was the other america or on. Utah someday zombies. That was the original. Big vision of love was first but it didn't really catch fire someday. Was kind of a big hit for her. I think she'd do us only thirty bastard. Yeah i believe a she got. She got jay on a song. Jay z on a jam or to coming into the final track. Here number. Thirteen transcending is seventeen minutes long. Nineteen minutes it says. A lot of bands will do that. Like put the twenty two minutes. Okay you california. Vandals six apple. These guys were obviously together in the ceo. Obviously together before the indy. As i mean in the eighties right. They were together in the n. Eighty they got together. Anything going all of that glam that. La the california could provide and these guys were doing this. Yeah they will definitely their music ago them. Doing hair metal. Avoid that no. I don't think they ever did that. Seen to ask the company. We're a different kind of ban. Yeah imagine being young like in your twenties on the strip. I imagine all the time. Plenty a fan hairspray. In the ninety s ice act morris. Hair zack morris. Yeah yeah that was your deal gig right there. Little gold chains and stuff. I did it all gladly with that. I'm glad i never worked. So i didn't have really did appeal to me the rockstar long hair easily. Me and some friends where three swap and a bunch of real old photos. The other day somebody had come across an old photo or two and i was sitting at my computer doing some stuff so i was like hold on. I think i got some good ones. And i dug back and i had some old ones and a few of us had some old ones. It's it's always funny to look back at those nineties pictures and even like early two thousand. What's unique about them is that they took a picture now. It is full color high definition. Everything's you look at a nineties picture. Any eighty six rainiest fuck. Everyone's super pale. A you know it it. It all can't count the flash in the senate. We did well. What that picture was gonna look like a months later weeks remembered area belt at the mall or whatever. We had to go to a box in the middle of a parking lot. Photo matt photo back in the day. My mom worked at a photo man like when she was man. I put that. I think when she was like an eighteen or something jack. I always pictured to air conditioning. Probably just like just like a a toll toll collector. Yeah little box but a photo mad. They put a lot of effort into the presentation of blew. It had to the tiled roof. It looked great. Rush shift gears here. A little bit cherry little spanish guitars bat. You cou sticker mama so tell me mama. Don't you dare sort of same thing. Yeah gus sounds as though you're talking about yeah is over ninety four. This is ninety four. Vh one wasn't bad that pop up video stuff. They did respond vh1. The video of this is really nice. The sound is great though. I love the sound of this really. Well done ago marking out the heads. Eagles one hundred forty seven albums leader. Somebody out there buying right now now. It's on final. Every seven seconds it can soul. It's been the it's car accidents and this too far way space show. Joe walsh is of islam in my. We means we don't let this tissue answer. You think of this different perks. Anything you hotel california. No your tickets seven people. That is great again. Make that money man so we have habit sixty just doing this. They knew they were getting another for. Joe walsh didn't have to do with that money man. Joe wall added for years. He was british air. Walsh is kind of a bad. He's a real bad motherfucker. You care about. He is good for either rockstar. And i'll tell you what. I heard a little version of desperado. That joe walsh justin just by himself with a guitar. Holy fuck was power. Gnarly the way he did it. It was a whole vibe is a masters now mind you i said listen. It's a million times. And i do not know the lyrics data over. I don't wear you know all improv. here. I don't know what's out the whole thing. It's helped me be better sales but not a better broadcaster by where the fuck is the night bird i thought was in your whole life. You've been singing about the nightmare night. Bird where i can't wear heard the term was from howard stern because he would make fun of the late night co host. The woman he would come in on winnie when they were w. a. w. nbc or whatever. It was it was a woman he would meet all. Listen to howard was the early. It wasn't like was the night at telling you realize what her tonight and he would he would he would make fun of legged the espn boys. You'd be like we all listen turn. I love our remember. Any knife references until god knows why we started saying it on this show. It might have been meeting heard labor. Maybe it could be something that you thought howard did it but he never did when something like you look at Accidentally your invention yeah. It's somebody thought you've been hearing it here and there your whole life just just now it only existed in your mind now. It has become a real thing i i wished for the first time. Yeah because it was never. He's typing naper. They found a comic book of some old woman spacesuit like what is this you think you're talking to you only yourself like i'm not even here. The neighbor we are that was hotel. California is over from the eagles. They're a whoop de doo. Highly rated tv show or jerry. Well here we are. We have ended. We find ourselves at the conclusion. Feeders you got to say for yourself be minus b. minus Go ahead and explain. I don't think our listen to it again. No i end it. Confounds me like. I want to like it because it does something different every time. You make a really solid ep of that you would listen. I thought that when it's seven. I saw thirteen songs which seems to be the standard for albums round there. Yeah you cut like three or four songs off this. Yeah yeah you could make a huge case. You could probably make a hell of a six song ep Be a real banging six song ep. It's just baffled me because none of its seamy. Yeah everything's different like everything belongs there. yeah but it just. It just didn't speak to me. I would you give it a b minus. I i will i will give it a b minus and i think what hurts it for me is Maybe it's just not consistent enough like their stuff on it that i love. There's that handful of jams that i love. And there's other gyms that are fine and there's just a couple of jams era. I you now so it does well because there is shit legitimately really really enjoy his record. I think it's really solid. There's quite a quite a few. But it's not consistent enough if i go ahead and give that album abi or a minus or something. That's not fair you know. There's other albums that did better. That got those grades that were more consistently good so some high highs just not enough of them for me to give it a higher grade and i just i every piece of me says i should like down if mathematically it works. Yeah on paper. It's described this shit. We thought fleet. I mean were very parts of that lethal fire part of that album that were really good to me but i mean and maybe a little bit of meanness not an anthony keith. This guy either could be you know. He's nothing against. I think he's the when the more likable frontman ever been in existence in this country. Well i'm seeing in the world you know when a more likable front men. Everyone in there seems like is not a reason to let it or him. Just his voice doesn't bother me. But i won't. I won't seek it out. Yeah we you know we talk about it all the time. We've listened to records with some of the greatest voices in the word cornell. So many i mean stale coverdale uncovered omer so many. That's true though. It is but yet you and i and i like anthony kiedis but again. He's got a vibe. There's places where his voice really works. Well there's he has a handful of things he can do with his voice. He's got these little moods that he can set and and he's good at those things but he's just not as diverse inconsistent of a great singer a hear him. I hear george clinton sure. I mean look. They love that shit parliament. I- i hear george clinton but it just it just it doesn't it. Lacks the seem weirdness and power. That parliament had yeah. Maybe he's just not as diverse or strong enough of a front man to do it. Always the justice that it could be done. Maybe maybe work. I mean. I bet you people that love the chili peppers love anthony. He might not sure. I can see why. Yeah yeah yeah. He's got a lot of personality. It's a very subjective thing and and he is a good front man and he certainly belongs in that band right on so it is what it is. I i also we we give it a be. Mommy agree yeah look at us. Go jerry we're like a menu. Thanks guy is you should take a moment to visit the grunge. Podcast dot com if you would and hit us up on social media and of course there is the patriot link on their. We'd like it if you would join and please give us actual money because there's an endless sea of bonus content waiting for you when we never stop creating it. So don't be cheapskate. To appoint we're friends of mine are laid. You guys are doing way too much. Yeah i heard it myself it does. It is ridiculous but it's too late to stop now. What if we decided to cut back. Look we'll give you one episode a month like we're going to episode for ten dollars. Tier will say your name what he will do that. Say your name. Yeah well okay so thanks. Everybody will talk to you real soon. Don't be a square.

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Dave Navarro OD'd and Was Left for Dead

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Dave Navarro OD'd and Was Left for Dead

"Aren't you tired of hearing opinions. That are just plain wrong will hi. I'm trey kennedy comedian. And host of correct opinions podcast. Every opinion is correct. Live each week. I'll rose the internet's craziest trends in the most baffling baby names to hopefully make you laugh. But also to make sure we're all the same base because you name it get like moon or something you on the show okay. I got internet for the funds videos. And cringes moments and i give you my opinions on everything on the web which luckily for you again correct. So police subscribe to correct opinions with trae kennedy available free on apple podcasts. Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to another episode of worse. I it's been words. I wasn't going to do a podcast this week. Because i was so depressed and Today's microbes data bed. Some proud of myself for that But yeah we lost wicky last week after sixteen years of life which is a long time. It's a really long time. And if i might add you. Were going to cancel this. I was gonna cancel the at i. I kind of pushed you sorry. I was like where you're grieving. Maybe the best thing to do is to sit down with somebody who knows grief. Yes and talk about it rather than have it spin in your head so here we are here. We are guys with dave navarro. Obviously without engineer doesn't need an introduction But i'm so glad that you did. Tell me let's do it because i was dru feel better already i do. I just feel better. That i got like outta bed got dress. You know got myself going. You know that's like helpful you know and obviously you when we go through like incredible pain and grief like our own self care suffers began. Were so just mashed within the grief. That like the idea of getting in the shower. It's like for what my life. I'm not showing up for anything. Yeah it's like. I know the feeling and i have a dog and i'm already worried about when he goes. You know the dog is he. He's he's like a yorkie mixed mutt like a rescue. So but like i kept telling my my girlfriend i was like we're spending thousands of dollars and thousands of hours. Yeah into something. That's going to eventually tear our hearts my nine. Tell me about this wrong with. I know i kind of feel like that's it's like that's the hardest thing but i feel like the love they give is so pure and it's so worth it. It's like grief i read. Grief is the price you pay for loving so much resonates. Yeah right isn't a. I'm going through grieving process myself right now. But it's it's manageable. Because i know that the the decision that made that would made that led to that grieving process. Was the right decision for myself for everybody around. So it's okay to grieve even if for instance You part with somebody and you still love them and you still honor them and you still want them to be happy and successful. You're still going to be sad like the sadness isn't there's no shortcuts around that. What is admirable about you. Is that you you lost something you loved and you felt it and you flooded out and you've expressed it and you cried and you did all the right. Things were a lot of people will turn to substances or stuffs that down with some other behavior. Whether it's sex shopping. You know what i mean. I just i couldn't. I mean i just was like oh i just. I don't know i get like physical. I don't know. Did you feel physically. We're going to talk about everything that you've been through because i mean i don't know if my listeners might not know this But you know you wash your mother vero tragic tragic way as your fifteen years old and you am. I allowed talk about your dot year documentary. You can talk about anything you want. Okay so dave. Did this amazing film. Which i really hope gets released for everyone to see called morning sun. And it's about the whole experience of him losing his mother and all the details about kind of you know use solid coming which is kind of scary. That was one of those things at fifteen. I had this sense that my mom was going to die. And i felt the energy and when it happened for some reason i was so a muted all those gifts i had all that intuition trusting myself trusting my judgment and then when you ever fuck thought and you're like well the last fuck thought i had came true so now this one come true right knee whereas case scenario all the time but you know us it's like we just think fucked up. I think are over completely untrue. My husband literally calls me. wcbs worse case scenario. Because 'cause i will find worst possible thing that could happen. He'd be like. Let's go to bali and i'll be like we have a heart attack in the forest. What are they gonna do. I'm not down with that. I have to be medevac out of thank you. I want cedars-sinai right down the street with you see But okay so. I wanna get back to like so you were fifteen and i watch documenting and i'm not gonna give away obviously too much but your mother was murdered. That's the whole ending. You gave it away But i'm not gonna say how like how do so many details that are in it. That will the movie is about my mom's murder. She has a domestic violence situation boyfriend who she broke up with decided that he was gonna kill her. That's his solution. Which is which is by the way about the most pussy solution ever because most people deal with pain and move on and learn to grow. And if you can't. I mean like so that aside and that's my resentment showing The of the film deals with with with where i went as a child Turning to music turning to really seriously bad drug addiction You know cut myself really really a bloodletting a lot of really just extreme measures. Whatever i could do to get myself out of what. I was feeling. You know what i mean. And i'm here to tell you that they didn't work. They were fun when i was in high school. And i remember like it was like yeah like the bloodletting when i would see all the blood come out. I remember being like like relief. I know you release endorphins. And only and only people who are as Diagnose as we are Understand the lure of that and then when it got into syringes and take out as much blood as i wanted that was you know it was. It was on so Yeah so then. I went through the drug phase. I went through the self harm phase. I went through you. Know whatever whatever destructive phase. Even if i thought it was in the name of art like i would convince myself that i'm gonna do this. Great big huge thing and it's okay and it's in the name of art but then it would really be kind of a dangerous dangerous poject for me so and the movie itself turned it out to be a little dangerous because it was really triggering because thirty years ago my mom was killed. And then you know. Six years ago. I started digging up archival footage and court transcripts and and had to hire private investigators and and news organizations to give footage of stuff that i lost and found out information. I didn't know so it was really a. I mean you had so much footage i mean. Just even all her as she was. The most susan actress an actor. It'll like just looking. It was like watching like a like it was like you know watching like a famous actress in like all the commercials everything. She did always. I've always you know. It's my mom's of course i feel a special towards her but i've always liked endure to having a sharon tate quality. I was just gonna say that. I was gonna say i was like. She literally reminded me of sharon tate which are like so tragic. Yes no matter what. Yeah what angle what. She's doing what she's saying like if she's in the middle of a sentence and they snap a picture and she's talking still gorgeous. You know that thing. Her making a making food at the counter paying attention to slip beautiful beautiful and such a loving mother she. Your bond looked like it was. So i and i still have it. That's the thing. I still have that. I lost it for a long time after making the movie and after doing a lot of work and doing cognitive therapy and some groups in an shit together on on a mental health level I'm able to get a good memories back of my mom that it used to be mom. Death don't wanna talk about it now. Like oh man remember how great christmases were. I think you can get into that and And feel it and own it and have it bring a smile to my face as opposed to sadness and you're an only child too right. Yeah so yeah. Yeah well yes. I had no no sibling to go man. This is fucked up. You're supposed to be there that night. Which is so also supposed to be there so I in reflection like if i was supposed to be at the house on the night that she was killed. I would've been killed. So if i reflect back on that and say you know why you know the the obvious question god. Why did this have to happen. If there's a god why would this happen blah blah in we. We all ask that. But god was looking out for me. You know guide did take an i can find spiritual gifts out of that situation because as horrible as it was as sad as it was had it not been for that event i probably would not have gone into the arts and the creative world that i went to and been able to share that story with us. Whoever else and the reason i chose to put it out mean it's been out it's on amazon. It's called moa is on amazon. Yeah it's all you guys have to watch it. It's called morning birds. Mou u. n. i. n. g. morning sadness. Earning son on amazon. The reason watch. It's so good. The reason i made it free because we're ending the year in the whole world is kind of dealt with ptsd of the lockdown and the covert and you know not making a living in store everything. We've been through the election. And so i think the world has a greater understanding of boy. Ptsd and suffering is and i just wanted to share a period of my life. That seemed insurmountable yet was in so when you made it through it and it made it through so to show that now in this current climate things will change. You know and i have lost. Maybe eight friends this year a couple of suicides a couple of overdoses just because the isolation that people are are having a hard time with and i think about someone like you and me who have a mental health issues sitting alone in a studio apartment on sweetser for a year and the shit. You're gonna think up in that time. Yeah you're damn right. You're going to get high. You know what. I mean unless you take some action. I definitely not. I mean even my girlfriends who are single and they were just like i have friends that have never had anxiety or depression really in their whole lives and now because they were like at home alone lost their jobs like didn't have money for rent had to scrounge for food and like they were like i am having. I had a panic attack and i never even knew that was like called me. And they're like. I'm so sorry forever. You know making you feel like that was something really weird and crazy. Because i've never experienced it now. I had one. And i would never wish on my worst enemy. I'm actually really glad that you brought that up. Because know i started. I started a an art clothing line of thing. That's geared around mental health and see and raising that stigma. No so like we used. You know if you think about the twenties and the russia has sin they would say look at. This ain't plot is no right or wrong answer yet if you get the wrong answer you're locked up in a horse or is it a guy tearing his face off. Yeah you better say horse. Yeah so You know the the healing and the progression that we've had in just in just self help and self care has been so phenomenal over the years and our line is called detailed analysis because there's two of us And it's all about just accepting you are so this is this is our original design. Which is that rohrschack test. Are they butterflies. Are they guns. We don't care what your answer is. Because we're not gonna lock you up because we're gonna accept you and then here's another one this a random. One insanity is its own cure which is just south acceptance. I got this thing. And i love myself anyway and i'm special. I am so glad that you're here saying this for so long and even still now like i have people because i talk about mental health so much you know because it helps me god loves it helps a lot of other people so many other people but every once in a while i'll get some random dude that's like tommy is gonna leave you because you're fucking crazy and like why are you so anxiety ridden just chill the fuck out. Don't get it you commented. I know they're like like like people. Just don't even understand and so like you know the people that do understand you know are like oh my god. I totally get it. You know it. And that's the thing is everyone is different. You know. I think a lot of people understand. And i think a lot of people are undiagnosed and i think that There's this myth that it's a vulnerability. Share the vulnerabilities a weakness to share. And ask for help is a weakness where i say. It's fucking superpower if you have the strength to reach out and ask for help when you need it. You're you're fucking hero. No because friends of have we lost. That didn't do that bro. You know what i mean. And and tommy sitting here by the way. That's why i'm talking to you but we've lost so many friends to this kind of stuff it's overdoses or depression or suicide and you know these are talented beautiful souls and and i always thought about it and always related especially when chris cornell kill himself because and tommy i don't know if you relate or whatever but i know what it's like being on because he did a show and then he went to his hotel room and he hung himself and i was like. Wow 'cause i know what he felt like during that show. I know what it's like to be there into hating everybody. Aiding yourself hating what you're doing and having to do anyway and i think he just said enough's enough man. I can't do this anymore. Nearly as as young musicians we we have these goals and dreams if we get signed then. I'm going to be cool. If if we on the radio that i'm going to be called. We get nominated for a grammy. Then i'm gonna be calling all these little little finish lines that we keep happening in your stomach. Yeah there's just no finish line. I feel like everyone does. I mean even with me with my own life on my once. I'm a millionaire. Maybe cool once. I'm this. I'm going to be be happier once i like. I'm not having zayed's anymore and it's like it doesn't know 'cause thanks trauma physiologically lives within your body. Yeah on a physical level so we carry it like my hands. Aren't shaking now but typically they are sweaty. Yeah get all those symptoms. But so what dual diagnosis wants to do. Raise the stigma of that being something to be ashamed of. I we like it to soldiers who oversees and they serve they serve our country and they come home with ptsd e and they get a medal right their heroes their fucking shit they saw and they can't like you can't get those images out of their house. They have to live with that the rest of their life and the right. Here's why is it. Why is it that the people the people that suffer and are striving to live through it anyway. Yeah that's shameful. So what i'm trying to do is say no man anybody who's willing to stick around through their struggles and do what it takes to get into a better place in with the key being share that with others You got it made stepping into your power into your light and While we're on the subject of dual diagnosis. I brought gift for you dead. This was handmade by myself. And my partner. Padilla and tommy is gonna hate it. I'll show you why. Yeah so. I'm gonna say where this tommy's car at all times where this to bed at all times but this is all we handed all this and this is just for you as a gift and Yeah that's all and then. This is a trigger finger. Just a trigger. It's not real. You know what. I mean just to remind you. It's all it's a trigger and then this is this right now. That says trauma kids. But it's in a different font that i created and i feel like trauma. Kids are the ones that that the ones that survive are the ones that carry the message. Ray welcome and yeah. I am pretty sure that glitters going to stay put. So if anyone wants to get that. Is it just all diagnosis. Dot com okay. We'll diagnosis dot com and we do an array of different things in smaller. By an end items and higher end items a- an artwork to street are two. What is your diagnosis. While the dual in that name is because i have a part okay. Okay so you don't have to probably have multiple multiple in the name dual diagnosis. If you hold it up. It's two guns. Making a butterfly and two guns would would be necessary for dual which is a battle but we spell the dual. Because there's two of us because we're actually stopping the battle and having a meet your partner. How did how did you guys come together. She's a great street artist. Named fuck yourself. I've heard of her brilliant. And she. And i we connected on the street just working together doing art and We we. I hope she doesn't mind me. I mean. of course she won't mind but we both struggle and we both have grandiose dreams and we'll call each other the next day and say i'm under the covers and it's not going to happen today and we both get know what i mean Those days yeah so so But she and i met just really aren't seeing the street. Artsy we decided. We didn't really wanna make a brand. We wanted to make a movement so we encourage people to just take our imagery. Take our clothing. Make your own. Cut it up that tacking on a back of a jacket with safety pin. You don't give a fuck just represent and and take pride in who you are. Because i for instance you said where my diagnosis is. Why got bipolar disorder. I've got anxiety. I've got depression. I got drug addiction sex addiction. I you know you name it I had to eating source for many years did you. What like anorexia. Or well i i. I tried that. But i got to hungry here. Like i'm just going to throw it out like this is much easier if you and this is not a tip knows ted. This isn't like Inspiration pro tip. Yeah all you want then shoot heroin and it all comes out. Oh up right well. Yeah you get sick when you when you hit when you hit a blast but i'm kidding but the drug addiction and and and vomiting from the just use of needles all the time. Got me into a place where i felt i felt best feeling empty and then when i quit doing the drugs i struggle with the anorexic eating disorder control issues all the fun stuff and like nobody ever noticed a fucking difference but me and one day i was just like i'm suffering for nothing especially for men because a lot of people like eating disorders are affect men so much as well. You know well you you have to be married to one of the tallest skinniest most handsome guys in the world. mother fucker. He hi are you kidding. Whatever the fuck wants fucking clam on. The planet smokes thousands of cigarettes a day. We got his lungs. Checked clear as fucking by the way i had to do it. I had to do it. Even though the whistle in my long he has a was. I heard you ever whistling at night. I'm like a balloon deflating. We're actually going to go again. But i mean here. He did get a check and they said he was all good. I mean he's just like invincible. Like a moment. Like i was telling you we were reminiscent earlier when we were doing the rockstar show rockstar supernova. You got many many years ago like we would be set for like we get there the first thing in the morning first of all tommy would come in it a yeager machine in his dressing room and he would start hitting that thing at nine during the minded bitel this stuff. This is the best. This is behind the scenes stuff and by the time it was go time. Like we're live and mark burnett creator survivor. And all these fucking huge shows ready to go and tommy sitting on the panel naked and he refuses to put clothes on and it's going live so people. Do you remember that. That role is just getting naked. Let's do it and we were just sitting there naked. You are too. I think i did i. I must have at least. It was not hard to get me naked back convincing you to take out. You're like oh good. I'm not taking my dick out around. Tommy but those those days i was i was a little bit freer with the looseness but but anyway so we would have those days. They will go on for twelve hours because there's rehearsals through. There's all kinds of shit then the show happens and you're fucking white dust and then. Tom was like bro. We're going to the club right. Now get your shit and my are you out of your mind. How do you do this. And it's just like you know. Has this energy. He'll never lose it because my singer perry farrell is that the same way. It doesn't matter. I mean just wired. God willing doesn't matter what he does. Were you know how how much damage is done to his body. How much harshness has taken place on the stage. He'll look younger and stronger. And better than everybody else. It's just fucking it's unreal. We run into him in hawaii and his wife and he looked great. It's crazy look like the same. He's looked since he's old a six years old do every good but Almost of you look good. But i mean fuck. It's kinda crazy you know. It's it's interesting and did your ban members know you're going to do this stuff too. I know i mean well. I mean in the in the early days like in the eighties and early nineties and jane's addiction. Like i was a kid i was seventeen. Eighteen years old. You know. I don't know if you know this is all tommy is to load motley crue gear into the troubadour. He told me that. I used to just show up to help load jerk just to be close to it. Yeah because it meant that much to me. Was he nice guy. Well get their way before he gets. Oh you know some just loading in gear like you'd be like you guys need help you just learn to do free and then we will go in and watch the show on fucking loaded that cabinet up there myself and the so stoked and that's what we did you know you had i. I really miss that time of music where it wasn't just so instantly digitally available. Although i love that we have that. But being down in the trenches doing what it takes and doing the work and doing seven guys in a van for three years with a fucking no cellphones or computers. Like people don't know how to are like that anymore. Now i'm you know he killed himself. We had to pick up payphone and hope. The person was home to answer the phone if we wanted to reach anybody. I mean lives fucking isolated. When did you guys get your big big break. Like what was your biggest break. I think i think in around nineteen ninety when nothing shocking came out we started getting a little bit of airplay and and all of that but You know we. We imploded As a result of my you know my drug addiction in all of us had had yes some something or another but we've were still abandoned. I mean we play. I love that and that's years and years later like it's amazing. I think it's like You can identify with this. It's like every time someone says they quit or it's over. I hear it as hiatus. Because i just i just know it's like it's we're joined together at the no matter what we're family no matter what. There's a great eagles documentary. Where the guys it'd be. We haven't seen that. It's fucking because it's warts and all do they go off on each other. It's dough and but would they came to conclude is that we are all stronger together than on our own. Yeah married you guys are married and it's like being married for a really long time you're gonna like someone also married to three other people. Have huge egos just like you and everybody wants the same fucking day. And that's your family whether you like it or not and you're in a fucking u-haul pulling van that's taking you from orlando to jacksonville and you hate each other. It's it's you gotta love the music to put up with Yeah yeah you gotta love what you're doing. That's and i get asked all the time by young musicians like bro. Do you have any advice you know. I'm just trying to guess my advice is make sure you fucking love this because there's no guarantees first of all if you're doing this for the house or the car the girl put it down. Yeah it's not for you. You know what. I mean like the just this is not how it works bonuses but yeah i mean if it works in those are bonuses. That's great but that's your. That's your intent. Talk more then. It's not going to resonate with anybody. You know what. I mean and So that really mattered to me. But get my my history with with molly. crews i mean me and are the drummer's of jane's addiction would stop those guys you know that is so funny none of their homes but right but i mean just where they were playing right because it was like yeah and then and then stephen ended up playing with tommy and methods of mayhem and went on tour with him which was a dream. Come true for him. Oh yeah i mean the The incestuous magic of all of this small. It's great it's great but like had it not been for the happened. I wouldn't i might not be here began guitar. You think but i. I was already playing guitar but i think once i got to go down into the i was thirteen. Fourteen fifteen and also right around the time. My mom died which was really special for me to have some ten escape and then we had that i. I don't wanna make this an interview about tommy and we'll get back now we'll get back to. How fucked up. We are second. But i think him all the time. Let's talk about something i'd say. At an original it was an independent release of the too fast for love. Or as. that's the one we had. that's one we knew and And then they guess remixed it for electro whatever when they got when they got big. But i mean so for me in our drummer to be having to discover something and look at the record and see the guys. Look fucking cool. I wonder what this sounds like and put it on like holy fucking never heard anything mixed guitar. Sounded like a fucking. He was using a buzzsaw on his. You know what i mean instead of a pick like we were like what is going on and we went and saw them and we were blown away from that moment on. We just stayed in hollywood and just like if they were playing we would show up. How grew fucking whatever we could do at a couple run ins with them and they were always very cool You know but. I'm sure that they don't remember was like we were the kids. We were the kids and and that that was the moment where i got into those rooms and i smelled stale beer and the cigarettes. And the fucking cable's in the house lights and the grime and anos like this. Does this candle was like. I really felt like yeah. I know what i mean. I love it. There's nothing i don't want to ever come between the in this and So i made it my life. Yeah so when you were playing guitar before your mom passed and then after she passed you still you did you say would you say more immersed into way more something to take you away once my mom. Yeah luckily i had something creative to to funnel that energy and just like you're doing this. Yeah that's that's the key. You gotta have some need something. Yeah that's channel through multiple things. I mean you do the art. You do the music i paint like i do. This is so many things many things as you can to kind of funnel that energy and being who we are we have to watch the mania of trying to like scrambling get eighteen projects done in an hour and then you go to sleep like a whole day to like resorts he's laughing. He's married to that girl. Yeah he is awesome. It's awesome and you're great. you're gone. I mean i'm like you know and the funny thing is is. I think there's like again this whole stigma of like if you have mental health issues that you're like a fucking psycho and you're crazy and all this shit but it's not even like that. It's like mental. Health issues can look so many different ways for people like you know like you said the mania like i can get really invested in a project that be all and focused on my husband will be like what are you doing like you're running around the house like doing all these things and it's like oh i gotta do this like you know. It's not like it's like a thing where my running around with a knife being fucking crazy with. It's like many actually for those of us who don't suffer from. I don't think i have bipolar. But i definitely have like days were all. I just have so much enlightened. Like those are my favorite best. As i would say that i would say that if you suffer from bi-polarity or depression the mania is your gift. People love it. Because i can get thirty things done in a day. Yeah in that state. I just have to be aware that there's gonna crash from and how long do you usually get out of how many days you get usually of your mania. I made it really. I mean i could wake up the next day and be fine. It could take two weeks you know. Sometimes it's followed by a lot of tears you know because it's just such an outpour but i hang heidi's exhausted physically exhausted but i've come to welcome the tears because i know that that's energy that needs to leave the body. That's so bad. So when you're driving down the road and you almost hit a deer and the dearest ending the road and shaking like that human beings don't have that but the deer shaking because it's traumatized and what its body is is releasing the trauma in the deer. So he can go on and have his life so as human beings we don't have that component where it's built into our physiology but we do need to let these things out or they will run our lives and then ended up dictating future narratives. That are completely untrue. That will they keep us in the dark really. So i'm i'm just super i'm just in a place right now. Where i'm i'm happy to do this project that that can spread that kind of. We're not trying to make raise the stigma of mental health. We're trying to make it fucking cool. Put it this way. You think vincent van gogh was the most well balanced guy in the world. Now fucking genius air so many artists and every one of my favorite artists are fucking people musicians. Artists were fucking crazy. Yeah you know what i mean. People are i'd say that otherwise it's fucking boring. I mean he's thomas crazy in his own brand. I don't think he has like mental health issues. But you're definitely just fucking he's just under fucking crazy man. I mean well. Here's the thing. He doesn't mental health issues but he instantaneously acts upon any thought that he has. And just like. I'm doing this. Fuck yeah and he just fucking goes that. And that's you know what i mean. Yeah yeah yeah whatever it is. You'll have the idea. And then he'll have like the tempo ready for five seconds. You know what i mean. And then it's just non stop until that things done. That's his thing. Our thing is maybe a little deeper and we. I know everybody's troubled everybody's law something. Everybody knows sadness Some people are more sensitive to it than others. Some people have had upbringings that have made them more sensitive to it and I certainly have so Anything i can do to help you know. Cool you out with your mental disabilities your a magician. You get support. It's like it's nice to know where you're welcome and this is a place where you're welcome and this is the place where you're supported and understood and it's not you know not shamed for it because you're not shame thing. We have a phrase endure diagnosis. That says shame never saved. Anyone know can spend all the time you on feeling ashamed. But you're not gonna get better. Yeah so dropped the shame. Shame and So that's i mean that's our whole our whole messaging and that's our whole thing and like i think it's fucking cool man i look at somebody like I look at somebody. Like van gogh was very troubled. Guy who did incredible paintings change the shape art forever and he had yet studio that he worked with gauguin in and they hated each other guy cut his ear off for a girl like that guy would be put away right but look at his art so whatever whatever mental disability he may have had he found a way to channel that into something that's greatness. Just like you're doing now. You're finding a way to channel something that's going on with you into greatness as probably reaching a lot of people that need to hear it. We have a lot of listeners. Which is really fantastic. And i'm so grateful for you guys. That's what that's what we're doing with that. And that's how. I wanna live my life here man. We're in the back nine yeah. I don't got time for suffering. I did that. What are your views on death like. I'm very curious. Like what how i mean. Obviously going through so much trauma and death. I handed the thing. I i have a big fear of death. I mean holy. Here's one thing i can tell you. You don't have to be afraid of it because it will for sure happen. Feel better dave no fear. I can't get our way from it. Which is a horrible thing and my dad tells me he's like well everyone's going to die. Doesn't that comfort. You like no one. No one's gonna live forever. Mike yeah but like i just feel like other people will be able to handle it better like me. I feel i'm own death or the others. I am obviously care if my loved ones die but my own data. Because i'm so aware all the time of everything going on in my body to be nice to take a break from that. Look at look at it that way. You won't be thinking about nothing not community that way. It's it's true lies. i'm constantly going dreams. I'm like all that kind of i do remember i. I had kidney failure when i was eighteen really randomly. I was just like in a bad place doing bad things. And i got kidney failure really randomly and i almost died because it turned into sepsis and i was in the hospital for a week and i remember they like pump. You full morphine. You're like really on the edge. That sounds good and it makes you not feel anything. And i remember the doctor coming in and going i said are my guys i i was so out of it. He was like. I honestly do not know. And i i remember like normally that would have been like go to shit myself. But like i was on some big you so much more of you need so many drugs tell you. They're conscious of that too conscious of the fact that they are about to deliver news. That is very elevator They keep you just kind of like you're like this so like we get the worst news and you're kind of just like oh yeah you can't really process it and that only that almost comforted me when my dog was passing and he was barely able to breathe in. The doctor came to the house. Ida that come to the house. And i asked her to save him and she's like he's already halfway gone like i can't save him and she's like what i do is i give him like Morphine in one shot for a dog and it puts them in like a sedate. Completely sedated spot a suffering out of suffering. They don't feel a thing and he just kind of want complete relax and then they do the injection and it slowly stops their heart in it. It's just very peaceful Euthanasia accidents good death. That i didn't but it makes sense because it's a it's a it's a humane death and and you and you were there to witness it. You can hold him. it was on. I mean you even added to got to have it be on your terms you know in a in a strange way to be the most comforting loving thing you could do a pains not gonna go away and quicker but know that you know you were there with that dog till his last breath and he knew it Yes my my feelings about it. Like go back and forth. I you know The happier i get the older. I get the happier and happier. I get the less. I wanted to scary when your life starts to get really good. That's the thing with me. Is that my life has gotten used to want to kill myself all the time in high school. I used high belter on my neck style. I used to myself. I was institutionalized. Made many attempts believe i used to pray to god to just kill me and my life i got away from all the things that were hurting me and i moved out here and i got my life together and i became really happy and i was like fuck shit. No wish death upon myself so many times in those years mike. Is there like a backlog. Is this going to get to god. Like at the wrong time backlog. It's all it's because it's all evolving and growing and that's what it's about so there's there's no consequence for thought. You had thirteen years ago but the thing the thing for me is that You know i just. I know it's going to happen. I'm not too terrified of it. I'm not cavalier about it. Like a rather. It doesn't but you know. I feel that if i've looked at all the signs in my life. Here's a little story so my ex girlfriend Was in desperate need of Outpatient treatment we wanted to get into like a little group that she could go work on her recovery And so one night. I was out with a friend of mine named magazine. And we will your team and we just spray painted. This building help is on the way because we found this building. Had this really long black wall help is on the way because we just want the world to know that like we're gonna be okay. Two weeks later my ex girlfriend shows up for her. I'll be that building. And so i think to myself if magic in cosmic Connections happen like that on such a profound level throughout my life in my look at them. And i'm and i really eight. I try to take them in and i become aware of them than i am at peace. Because i know there's way more to it than just what we're looking at. You know because there have been evidence. There's been evidence of cosmic interaction in my life. That's undeniable. what else. Tell me more. I mean just i mean i can't even just the way people me just the way people the way i went to see molly crew and now there's a band. Jane's addiction that kind of evolution. Do you know what. I'm talking about like things. Get better you just it takes the time and it takes the work and in in the work is the hard part so for that. I do a lot of a lot of one on one therapy. I do some. I do a lot of Trial studies that our. I would say that people. There's some trial studies with ketamine. All i've heard about the Have you done the ketamine treatment. Tell me everything how did how did you feel. Is it like just doing ketamine and unknown certain no and the same thing with mba. It's not like you're going to some dudes house in silver lake. A two in the morning government going to get he'll bro- trust meals. Cook it on the stove. A medical facility in like you know there's iv drip and. That's what i don't like 'cause. I dissociate regularly myself where i feel like myself is over here. Sometimes and i hate that ketamine. I heard does do that. It's very dissociate but dissociated in the sense that you wouldn't even know your brittany anymore you're just in a thing your your soul is in you leave your body. I'm not gonna say that. I'm just gonna say sense of ego is gone which is sense of who. I am what i'm doing here. What i'm about my name like all that goes away. It's ego death. You feel calm and you feel like relaxed and only with a doctor. I'm not. I would. Never i would never advise someone to go. Get some k- yeah. That's stupid ray. If someone suffering from depression it's an option that is actually legal. Now that's what i've heard about. What the what the thinking is that. It helps create new neuro pathways in your brain time. So you and i run the same fear we the the center rain that goes to the middle which is a fierce. Enter your brain. It's just and it's going back and forth and back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. what this does is open another panel. Oh wait a minute we can maybe try this path and maybe another solution craze. So you're just not spiraling out and spinning on something that you have no control over anyway so when you walk out of that treatment how do you feel like how so how long you're like thirty minutes. Forty minutes You walk out of it. You feel like You know base income spacey but you come back to earth pretty quick. it's not You know. I wouldn't recommend driving car home but come home and There's no there's no magical like a ha moment like everything's better. Yeah because this is working on a neurological level. So with that kind of treatment you have to go multiple times there's sessions and there's an ethic and there's integration which is really really important part of it which is discussing with either team or the doctor whoever what came up with you through that journey how that how that applies to your life and what about that you can change with love. That's what we look for. You know on. So how many times have you done a man. I don't even know like a lot. Oh yeah okay so do you feel like the you that when you started versus you now you see a big change. It's hard to say. Because when i started i was in crisis you know i had a big crisis happening in my life so it was very hard to weigh any benefits of anything. I was doing because once i came back just back in crisis again so there was like you open up. I just told them you're opening up new era pathways for the same information to get to me faster but it worked eight so i tabled that for a while. And then i got into just some straight up therapies straight up relationship therapy straight up you know psychiatry and working with with that because there's just fucking no shame in encina psychiatrist and and having a little support if you need it. If you have a headache you can take an aspirin so if you have clinical depression yeah like you need some fucking hell right. You're right. I mean and there's a lot of You know and i do work with psychedelics. Right you know as as a tool not as a solution as a tool. Hello everyone and thank you for tuning into another episode of worse. I guess what makes me really happy poppies. Because what else makes me really happy sarabi. That's right therapy is very helpful as you guys know. I'm very vocal about my mental health on here and pretty much just in life in general. I don't think there's a need to be ashamed or you know. I don't really see the stigma behind it. 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K- so the character is so that character. He's short movie. That's his own insulated environment that he built to surround himself at babe there. It is the dual diagnosis guy. Who's a short film on our site that you can watch about him and what. That guy has been so traumatized that he had to build his own environment with his own air where nobody could touch germ dow in his own little in environment and that way he could interact with the warwick. Would you went short film as he from. Or what are we on the on the dual diagnosed him. Oh yeah heart of your creation this multidimensional. It's not just swag dimensional film are watch your film. It's really cool. No the film on this diagnosis film. He's in there. So yes. That's so i love that okay. So we were talking about. Yeah like just the stigma behind taking anything or trying to help yourself. If you're struggling. Yeah i don't. I think that the days of feeling bad about that or over folks ask. Let's let's let's let's do away with. I feel bad because and don't let anyone in any twelve step program. Give you shit about something that you may or may not take because in the literature it says outside issues and some of us need other other help and it's and if you really want the fucking truth in bill story which is in the alcoholics anonymous book as bills partial story. They left out a lot and they left out all the part where he worked with psychedelics. To find out who he was. What kind of psychedelics. Ls everything lsd at. The time at the at the time was alyce right. Sometimes you do to help. It helps with depression right. Obviously but then isn't come down from that so the md main again. This is not me advising any right right to anybody's hearing this and has any interest. Look it up Dr your research. Don't contact me. i can't help you. These people start message on britney. Get some ketamine. I don't you know we go through you. Know it's it's we're in trials with with the md may not even out but If you if you you know if you apply the except you then you can get jar and so that is a whole nother experience where you are cognitive. And it whole it holds your heart and safety so you can access the scary things that you otherwise wouldn't access because you know you're safe and the comedown. Yeah it can be rough. But there are. Now that this is becoming medically tested and done by scientists in laboratories. Those come downs are not as bad because they're gearing this medicine for this kind of trauma. Work so I've had great success with it But it's it's not for everybody. It's not and you don't have to you. Don't i never done i want girl. Let's go to. We'll do it but you'll want to do it in peru or something now. Tommy wants to do it. There's no help just in case it goes wrong. i wanted to do it at the peninsula. We have a lady. We actually are friends with our our my friend sara lee. She's a actually a pet communicator. Which she's amazing and she can talk to animals which is fucking crazy. I know it sounds crazy. But she's actually so good and she has a shaman that she's to shamans a male and female and she's like all come anytime you guys. I'm i'm veasley not going to do it because i'm out of my gourd as it is but i watch you guys you know. And that's the next layer then there's d. m. t. which is the five amiya which comes from the toad so there's right now. There's all these pens floating around. La you know like dm t. Pens and people are hitting them and that's not the shit that gets a little trip d. Whatever that's not the deep dive shit. The deep dive shit comes straight from the towed in the sonora desert and they extract from the glands and you have to make sure to let the toad go have you done d. m. t. Oh yeah okay. So that's like the spirit molecule. Yeah and what does that make you feel. Like there's absolute. I don't really think that there's any possible way. Heck explain it otherwise. Because i wasn't there you know what i mean. That's that's the thing i wasn't there i was just down loaded with cosmic information. It was just instant. I had nothing to do with it. You know what i mean. That lasts fifteen minutes and you can get in that. You can drive home with that. That's crazy because that chemical lizard our bodies and so it assimilates quicker. What i mean so like there's no hangover. Isn't it like a lot only lasts. You said what fifteen minutes fifteen twenty minutes. So and then you're in you're out. Yeah and you can go back and if you want you can go back in and feel like fifteen minutes or does it feel like an hour. I asked after my first time was like how long was that. Was i gonna really eight minutes. I'm like what felt like three days. It felt like a lifetime. You know i mean. I don't remember what you saw or what you went through. I mean i have images in my head of what i saw. But it wasn't experiential like that it was more it was more breaking through this layer of consciousness. We scared yeah. There have been well. I've had times when it was scary and have had times when it wasn't at times that were beautiful. May think that you know there's a lot of there's a lot of prerequisites when it comes to this kind of stuff. Which is you know the set the setting the intention who you're with what you're working on like you don't just go fucking hit the pipe in hope for the best like there's a whole thing for it you know what i mean. There's a whole whether it's an. It's it's essentially the same thing that the shaman do except in a therapeutic form which is like. We want to know why we're here. We want to make sure that we're safe. We wanna make sure that we're in a comfortable environment and then we're good to go if you're not scared but if you take with you my experiences that can come out with you know what i mean. So it's not for everybody kind of where your mindset is you know what is not necessarily but i just for me my experience and i can't speak on that but my experiences that i've gone in with a bad mindset and came out with about mindset and that was dangerous and have you done the microdosing with mushrooms to help at all. Have you done. Because that's just a new thing. That's that's nice. It's like that yeah. I do that on days when i have a lot to do. And really inspired. But i'll do it every day. It's like it's sub perceptual. So you don't feel it. Oh so you don't even know your. There's no there's no wiggly's there's no laughing. There's no stomach is just like little. Lift like a little happier. I wouldn't even say happier because it allows you to access your own happiness. Oh so. I don't do anything that makes me feel different. I do things that helped me. Access how i feel a big difference right right because it is within us and sometimes we just need help getting their because i have so much blockage of You know mom's death drug addiction. I'm not good enough. I'm I i'm terrible at what i music. Whatever the messaging is of the day because it changes You know it depends. So i i just really try and stay focused on just the cosmic joy that that i received i wouldn't i wouldn't i wouldn't do that. I wouldn't migratory. I wouldn't microdosing on a day that i thought that it was having a rough time. Right as a solution right. We don't do anything well it could. I don't know i mean for me. I'm not into the hi. i'm not into like let's party and drop these and go to the thing i'm into like i'm using plant medicine to enhance what i'm already doing. Right and what. I'm already discovering about myself and in conjunction with serious team of doctors. You know it's fucking above board safe. That's great that's so good. I have an. And i just wanna tell you guys if anything i'm talking about sounds interesting like i can't stress that enough. There's a lot of people out there who call themselves shaman. Because they had an eye alaska experience and now they know how to to give you a couple of iowa. He careful who you pick i. I would say in the same tone with who was in the room gauge. The energy of those people like you moved here and then you got much happier. I bet you disconnected with a lot of energy that you wasn't serving. You know what i mean. And i've gone through a process of my life. Forever reconnected with the people who have brought me positive. Energy and i have distanced myself from people who bring negative energy. Because like i said in my fifties that is not. I'm planning on spending the rest of my life right. You need to be surrounded by happiness and have you had any children. Do you have children or don't want to have children. I don't i don't think Amateur at fifty. Three to have a kid right now. I don't know if that's the stars. I'm not against it. I love kids. I just i just don't i don't know i'm not i'm not shut down to it and i'm also you know not necessarily stoked on it even right. You're not. I want to be a dad. It'd be so important to me too. God kids that And lola and todd. i'm gonna make them watch this so they can hear their names Let you know. He's a he's a he's a teenage guitar player. So i go over there and teach them rock riffs. I'm like dude. This is what you need to know. No listen any of this and teacher taught you that. that's cool. forget that Yeah so i love doing that. A little start doesn't really matter doesn't like you learn learn. I teach them to learn techniques and then have the techniques as an arsenal. And then make up your own thing and you taught yourself. Yeah you didn't have any lessons ever had like you know. When i was a kid say basics and then you went from there just kinda did it once i discovered jimi hendrix at about maybe ten or eleven as escape park. They go skate parks pools and do that. And i heard i heard hendrix voodoo child playing over the loudspeaker. I picked up my skateboard. I looked at the speaker. Were what the fuck that went into. The office and i was like what's playing jimmy hendrix jimi hendrix. And i went the next stop. Was the record store from the skate. Park to the record store and That changed my life Got you into music. James lawrence so gray. I love that. I'm so happy. I feel like you. You're so your energy is very peaceful and it feels like you really reached a point where you know who you are and like you know. Call me next week dead. I know how to act this podcast. You're gonna go says the peacefulness. When i know there's a camera on kidding i'm kidding okay. What about like a bad like sexual experience or like crazy sex story or like. I don't know anything. Maybe on tour like some fucking crazy thing or like a girl like you know. Tommy somalia sounds like throwing up on his dick all kinds of. Yeah well things who hasn't thrown up on his. Let's be honest God i mean you wanna give me a scenario like a sexual scenario about like a worse like have you ever had an experience where you were just like. This is the worst experience i mean. I feel like i've so many to put me on the spot. I don't even know how many. Yeah i mean because sometimes the worst experience doesn't manifest itself to later so like you meet a girl you hook up. You're going to have one of those nights and you're stoked and it went grade and it was hot and you're like fuck. Yeah that was a great night and then you wake up to her with luggage at your front door. The next day where she's like move out so worst that's worse. She's moving in. She thinks us. Oh my god. I kinda shit deal with loving loving league as the grown up. Last night was what it was. We made that clear. I'm sorry that misread. Read this right right right. There is no chance that i am ready for anything like this do you. Are you ever going to get married again. I don't i don't i don't think so why I'm not sure that. I'm you know i had a great marriage and i'm still super tight with carmen and i love her to death. But i don't know. I think that was the one and it was good and it lasted as long as it did and i am. Why did it end. I'm asking or is that too. We became best friends okay. So it wasn't sexual anymore. It was but it was. We became best friends which meant that. It prevented us from living an expanding in our lives. On you know individually you know what i mean we were just like kinda locked down together and He didn't want to hang out with anybody else. You didn't want to do anything on. Like i know i would. I would say that we just became used to living together and then like sooner or later my wife became my roommate and it was like i didn't love her. Any less just was like what are we. She felt the same way so we were just like well. Let's let's Actually what happened was we took a break and in that break you know i had a break and i and i went out and did what i did. And then i got blasted by a speak lee and people and all that shit and it became a big fucking up now so the press basically just took my relationship and squish. Didn't traumatized eight into a fucking heartbreaking story but what else is new. That's what they did. And so then she was like whoa. I don't wanna go back together now because of you know all this stuff or whatever. It wasn't so much that i think it just after that. Like and then after the explosion everything it was just like and we'd had some some time apart it was just like let's be fucking cool each other really happy about that. Like do you feel like that was like a content in the moment no in the moment no but i'm super happy. It worked out that way. Okay because i gotta rad friend out of it. And i had a million amazing other experiences and i've met other really incredible incredible women that have inspired me so i don't regret that at all It's anything a long term relationship in hollywood with two people who aren't home very much. It's pretty tricky. Yeah know so. She shooting whenever she shooting. I'm on tour. We see each other like we had to book our wedding around her shooting. Schedule in my touring schedule and like fly in and get married really quick and then had to fly back out like it was just. It's insane. Tommy told me the same thing the same situation and it's so funny because now like we're marrying married for a year and a half the other four years and it's like we spend literally every day together and like literally every day other every moment together. It's kind of funny and you know he was saying he's like i didn't get to really do that in my other relationships because i was always or think this is a first relationship where i'm like in a real relationship i like you know. There's the good days there's the bad days. There's the sexy days. There's the not sexy day the days when you want to you know it's like a relief real life. That's a really nice thing for you to come to a realization and just be like. Wow this is this is what they're talking about owning mean like it's it doesn't have to be chaos and drama and plans and it just you can just flow and in being in in the acceptance of what kinda day it's going to be in that doesn't dictate like well if she's going to be like this then i'm out like fuck that. Well i think the thing is to marriage is like it's such a commitment to blake. You know whether things are good or bad you you have to understand that it's like nobody's perfect and not every single day you're going to be you know completely head over heels with this person knowing to go up and down it's just lay funeral and i also had that i'm not one hundred percent certain because i've tried and tried and tried and tried and i'm okay with this but i just don't think that i'm not a monogamous guy. I just don't think that. I am and i just tried and You know and then. I have to be okay with that and i have my partners. Have to be okay with that. Actually relationships do you tell your partners. I'm gonna be with other people or no no. No i'm saying like in this new phase of my life like i'm not i'm recently out of relationship but were super close friends and i just. I'm not looking to to lock up right away. I'm enjoying just being able to have space. I don't even being single implies that i'm seeing other people. I'm just enjoying that. She has the space to do what she needs to do. And i love to see her flourish. That way. And then in the meantime i get when i'm doing i'm i'm naming thinking about dating right now. You know or anything like that. But i think that what what i meant by that was my whole life. I've never really been a monogamous guy. And i've tried to fit myself into a wedge that i'm just not cut four. So what does that mean like when you're in a relationship with a girl and you really like her. It doesn't matter how much you like. are you still want. You still find yourself wanting to sleep with other people no matter what well. What's your favorite restaurant in the world. I know what you're gonna say. I know exactly. Do you want to eventually want to drive by in and out but what about. Here's another thing. I dated a guy like this restaurant won't feel bad about it. Dated a guy like this. And i told him i was like okay. So you wanna sleep with other people so like let's and we experienced like escorts like we would do that together you know and like that wasn't enough. It was like he had to go. And do it behind without me to a very not a healthy dynamic. Wasn't no 'cause. I'm a very like i've been in those relationships to where we've had like the open connection and we've brought partners and it's all above board. I've never really been much of a cheating guy. Yeah and guy. Because i have a theory and you probably know this is true. Tommy lie for shit. Nobody probably knows that this theory is probably he's gonna he's gonna factual is it for us. Women will always find out no matter what you do. They will know. So don't lie. They're gonna figure it out it's going to happen. He calls me the internet police. Because i see everything. I know every louis especially nowadays nowadays. Even the girl that runs into your girlfriend starbucks. I saw dave last night. He was out with so and so and you know that is going to happen so before all that you could literally get away with. What would murder pretty much. Tommy mrs those days when there was no cell phones for parade. There's no like you had a ca- get on a phone. Her now of what. I respond in a text to people because now they screen shot and send those everywhere. You know what i mean. It's like i know it's some girl would write me something and all right back. I sure would love to reply to this. However in this day and age of screenshots. I think i'm just gonna say thank you in socks. We gotta live in these fucking. You know this cancel culture fucking bubble like questioning our every move and when we had an opportunity to live free and fuck like the indians. He literally says lake. Tommy tells me we used to get away with murder. He's like some guys would be having their wife come up that the elevator as their girlfriend was going down on one side. Yeah literally. He told me it was unreal. I mean i've never been so funny for me. Like i don't even know i know it's so funny 'cause like i don't even get i'm i don't get you guys because like i could never like when i'm in love with somebody say the restaurant. Can you relate to the fact that you got this going on right but you couldn't just do this twice. It has to be this and this. It's still two times but it's not twice with this one. It's once with this one wants. Yeah that's where we came from. I know but you feel like even as you're getting older that that's kinda changed or no like i don't know i wonder like i just kind of feel like as you guys get older. Like i feel like tommy's very monogamous. Like he is very like he is. I mean we have like a very open relationship in terms of like he can look at my phone anytime i can look at his looks like very very nice and very loyal and i don't know if i would say that about thirty year old tommy but i mean you now you're not fifty eight you. I feel like i got the best year. The my last girlfriend who i told you still just yeah at over heels lover forever She got the best version of me. Yeah you know guys get better with age. And also i feel like you. Don't you feel like that. Not that that you've been tame sort of i feel like do you feel like kind of winds down a little bit and you like as you get older. You cherish a more now. I just realized that sometimes the memory or the idea is really hot and exciting but the planning and the escape and scheming and the texting it so much fucking award. Like i'm just like i just don't want to do the work i just don't wanna do it. I'd rather do something fun. And he's got that awesome studio downstairs. I would just be in the studio all day. It'd be just as happy. So that's you know in understand. Like when we were touring a hate. Hate bringing this up because it sounds so callous. But i think there's some truth to it like there was only i worry outlined what those tours could be like and how volatile they could be and then you add liquor to it and it could probably get more of a little more fun. That's a crap. Shoot you add drugs. You don't know what that's gonna do which you know that meeting someone new and having energy and chemistry and ceremonies flying around is gonna fuck him. Be great you know what i mean and that works every time so i think that's why a lot of musicians have been Slapped with that. Hate to i hate us. Were groupie now but just like sleeping with their fans but the fact of the matter is as much as as as you know. They wanted to have an exciting time with us. We wanted an escape with them and Are you codependent in any ways or do you do. Are you pretty like good on your own like you're like okay. I'm i'm okay. The book the giving tree of corey justed an art piece called the co-dependency. Because if you really think about that. Tree is a tree and a kid and the kid takes and takes and takes and takes now. I met this girl. I wanna borrow your would to build a house for her. Now i want you know what i mean. And the give and the just keeps giving 'til it's a dead stump at the end of the book. Is the most unhealthy story any any children who expects the relationship to go that way and their life is got another thing coming Some people are like that though. Like i'm a really big giver. And i'll give give give give until i'm a tree stump like so but that's that's those are boundaries that you can work on exactly whereas the teaching of healthy boundaries in this book whereas the tree the kid to fuck off and how about the tree saying listen. I need this branch to live. But i'll be happy to give you all. These sleet whatever. I want to rewrite it. I'm gonna do shit. That's such a good idea. Yeah but such a classic book and it does make me cry. But i am calling codependent in the sense that if i'm worried about someone that hijacks anything i can do really. Yeah so if. I'm in if i'm worried about like someone safety or someone's mental stability or someone i care about and love and then being potentially unhappy then yeah i can be a little codependent in the sense that i will put off what i need to do to take care of. You take care of them to make sure they're okay because once i know they're okay then i can xl. And then. i can do this. It's really giving it's giving but it's also like where's the part about. Oh maybe they're just not answering the phone. Like i don't go there i go. Oh my god it's a problem. Maybe they're in the shower. You know what i mean like. That's what i'm talking about. Nats code pin. Because i'm just like ono the you're okay yangos tests let me know. You're okay so i can feel better like yeah. I have that to a degree. And i'm working on it but Also really big to learn that. Like and i and i have a lot of trouble with this is like you're not responsible for other peoples happiness and i'm like i'm kind of like i'm always trying to help people almost trying to make people feel better at my own expense often as well and the hardest thing is to realize that you know you're not responsible no anyone else's happiness neurone no and and also when we feel responsible for someone else's happiness who is not taking any action on their own should be happy right that's really challenging know so So i try to watch the goethe penalty. I'm you know i'm no. I'm not perfect. I got i got it all but at least you know the i've intellectualized all of it so i have such a firm grasp understanding on a what i need to address and where it's coming from and all that but it doesn't it doesn't take away the feelings and life united say pain and suffering. Is there as contrast joy without pain and suffering. We don't know a joyous. So that's why being suffering is the gift to have the valleys to have the highs. You have to have the loews because everything was a high and great. What would what would you know what it was. Also talking about burning man arm. You wouldn't know it was great because it's great the normal. You know exactly exactly. So that's that's Yeah that's what. I'm really all about with this this thing. Yeah the messaging and I just i love what you're doing because there's so many people coming out now and just saying this is who i am owning it and finding power in that and i'm okay with it like i'm okay with like i. I knew a lot of people are going to be very like just and like it's affected me in terms of like you know. I think jobs. Like i booked a lot more acting stuff when i wasn't talking about the stuff as much but i definitely don't care because i'm like wow i'd rather be no who i'm really am than you should be more than okay with it. I'm glad you'll pay with it. But i would like to see you get to a place where you're fucking proud of it. You are doing something that takes a lot of strength and you take a lot of guts and the fucking balls delayed out online. You know dislikes slice yourself open and spilled on the guts for the world to see and say look. My insides are just as disgusting yours. You know what. I mean if not worse or whatever you know what i mean. It's exactly and the gift from that is how many people it reaches. That don't feel alone anymore. So many people and then also like just in that and i don't mean interrupt but that gift outweighs the one or two people who are like cloud she's crazy. You know what i mean like. Fuck you dude. Literally like i i think all the time the amounts of messages i get every day where people so you've listened to the podcast because it makes me feel normal. Listen to them. Don't listen to the person that's gonna judge because that's the energy you don't want your life anywhere the dude is like i just need to give you some good dick and you'll be fuck you fucking normal. Mike read all that stuff. You only because like i do submit submissions for worse i i have. People submit their stories. Yeah i didn't really submit one just because you take your pick you know i've had. Okay here's a here's a worst. I i d was in england in late nineteen eighty-nine in a a squatter flat or it's just like just street. Kids live in there. We had no power you know. Just we squatted. I need to make sure this is going. Not a great story so we had a. We found this abandoned building in me and these street kids. We're all junkies. I was on tour with jane's addiction and it had a day off and hook up with these dudes. Want this flat. I shot up. And i went out and i'm talking. You know right away you're gonna you oh deed no because i woke up maybe six hours later with one of the guy's going to you were dead. You're dead so what they ended up doing. I didn't know this because it was all candles because we never electricity. Who's really dark and so there were all these other street kids and they are freaking out. Because they didn't want to get arrested so they split shoe. This guy's dead. We're outta here other buddy who i did know drag me down the stairs and lean me up against like something an embankment on the curb and just call the paramedics. Okay and then like ran away and like watch around the corner in. The paramedics never came so he pulls me back up stairs. Blitz me in a bath. Tub runs water on me and i start to cough and choke and come back to life and then On never forget. This i i. I'm like lane. Like this. And i opened my eyes and i go what's going on. He's he's looking down. He's like dude. You're fucking dead like no paul. No pulse i got him. Oh my god wow a. Why'd you bring me back. More dope left first question first question with you guys. Motherfucker used to shoot jack daniels when he ran out of heroin. Yeah we'll because the fixing is part of the addiction to. I just want to stick a needle. In my vein. It's not really matter. What's in it coke speed math whatever you got you don't remember your death. You don't remember anything during deaths. No not for me because it just went black. But don't don't take that as a as as what it's like. I think that i was meant to come back. So i didn't get to the light. You know what i mean. There's a lot of things that you can we. Can you can manipulate these things into the things. That are the most positive for so. I think that this guy saved my life. And i didn't go to the light but it was all just like within a snap. Six hours went by. And i have no recollection of any of it. So that was the war's worst your that was your worst od. I don't know if it was but it was pretty bad. You oh deed I mean god. Over the years. I don't know like multiple again on hand or more than one hand. Yeah yeah so. Here's the way i look at it. If i was saved from being home with my mom in not getting killed. And i've overdoses many times i have and i haven't died and i'm sitting here with you. Who someone who is like minded and we struggle with the same things and we're sharing to them. That is fucking magic. That is god that is the cosmos. Whatever you wanna call it. That's evidence of god working in our lives. So that's how. I i look at all those mistakes and all those things in an and i i love. I love some of those stories. And wouldn't you know some of my worst experiences. Just make for the best stories today. And i'm glad i had them. Yeah it's life man. It's colorful it's colorful. We've had some amazing just the most beautiful experiences. And she's like the darkest most horrific experiences like that. You could any that humanity could even want to think about and i and i know way too much about the entertainment industry and what's going on in it and what's going on right now. It turns my stomach and You know it's just Their flavors everyday's a different flavor. You know and and today on a good flavor man seeing you guys are fucking in this beautiful space and and we're talking about stuff that matters. Yeah that's the cool thing and it is like you know it is so important to say that stand up to four in the morning doing lines with you wouldn't be great too. I can't even do like weird. I used to be able to do coke when i was younger. But i can't even take a lick five milligram. Adderall out having a panic. Attack like my chemistry change like twenty five. I used to slam coke. That was my thing. So yes i used to shoot coke and when you shoe co. get last like ten fifteen minutes i would do it over and over and over and over and over again all day all day all day and it used the heroin balance it out so i could keep shooting call you or skinny skinny fucking look. Great favorite like i know. It's so unhealthy like kate. Moss just like which is fucking weird. Because i grew up. In the era of kate moss. And i'm looking at the girls today going. How did this happen guy. I don't understand what's going on. Because like body positivity and thicker the vicar the better the more power to you. But i'm whatever crazy it's just era you know from a different era so But yeah i. I don't even know where to go with this. Because you said you used to do cocoa so like so now it turned on me because of the highest. I got no business going near anything. Speedy nothing weird. Your kind of like changes. Because like i was i did. I was on adderall for years like five years when i was younger. And like you know twenty two between twenty and forty milligrams a day. And i was like ninety pounds and i was just a little tweaker but i was so hot kidding. I'm kidding kidding. Anyway so But yeah then i now. I can't even drink fucking coffee or have anything was caffeine. Or i'm over the edge or your heart's gonna jump call having heart attack. My husband's like you're thirty four. My doesn't matter. I'll be the first ones. There's some good calling the cops and fire departments on myself stories that we do that can tag. Could i give you a rational answer. That would make sense. Can you know of course not like. I'm like you know five o'clock and like i'm convinced they're out there. Who's there then paranoid schizophrenia. They are right. You do enough coke and they show up there in the trees can make up a noculars got helicopters and all that stuff. I mean you know. I used to hang out with scott scott weiland. We were talking about scott earlier. We use together and that guy went hard. I mean we. I went but he went hard and and like so he the the difference to me was like he would. We would be seeing ghosts. You're up for eleven days. Do you start to elucidate literally. Not sleep for eleven days are here. Can't you die after like three. I don't i. I didn't But i had. I had a supplement to keep me away. Oh my god you guys are fucking crazy so scott. The difference mean scott was scott would be tude. This house has coast. Senator looking at right now and i'm like that's me on no drugs. I'm like i know but you're just seeing them because you're on drugs. Like i knew the difference like he would get spooked by am whereas i would see him and no. That's a hallucination. From drugs he went one step beyond where it was like He was seeing. We were both one night. Seeing we spent time with our current friends from their future ghosts. So like for instance. If i went home tonight and got into that behavior and talk to your ghost after you die fucking fifty sixty years from now. I come in to come back. But you're still alive in the real plane like those are the places we don't you kinda part of you think that maybe these drugs have enabled you to actually see what is really happening or do you feel like it was just the drugs now. I think the enabled me to have a fast track to find a goddamn solution. Yeah you know what i mean like meaning had i not gotten into my drug addiction. I would never been turned onto anything to help with it. Which means i would have lost all those tools of coping. I would have lost the support. That i have now. I would probably be a totally different person. So the drugs led me to self healing In a strange way i survived the process. Some people don't survive it Which is why. I think it's really important that people seek out there self-healing now so they don't have to go through what we've gone through In order to get the same thing go to the same place. You don't have to kill yourself or come close to dying to find the the light and i enter the tunnel. You know what i mean. It's just it's a waste of time. Yeah what are you. What advice do you have won't keep you much longer. But what advice do you have to anyone. That's struggling with addiction right now and feels hopeless and feels like stuck in that cycle with. I mean there's there's so much right. Now with the kobe lockdowns and stuff there are so many zoom meetings and they are twelve step oriented and you just do a random search islet absolutely advised that because and i don't care what twelve step group it is or even if it's just a process group or even if it's just finding therapists that you can facetime with Professional help is out there. They're all working. They're all doing it with the with the digital technology which is one great aspect of it and So i do. I do three three groups a week. Rally there like an hour each. And we check in and it establishes Relationships it establishes a connections with people who who are struggling. So you don't feel alone there's laughter there's community antic their structure within the week so it used to be. I didn't know what day it was. Because we're in this lockdown like who gives a fuck with day it is right. It's the same day while now. I know where. I have to be monday wednesday and friday and so having that structure in place is also a great gift because it takes me out of my own head. That's running the show. Most of the time you know that our homeless are struggling right now wrapped up. I mean whether it be like depression anxiety. Whatever i know there are online meetings for pretty much everything for everything and there are support line. And even if it's calling your best friend. And saying i never told you this and i really need to get this off my chest. You will feel better you do. I mean you have to talk about it. I try to keep my grief bank empty. You know means crying out or talking out or whatever you know you have to. You have to keep it empty. Otherwise it's full on builds up. And i mean if you if you and i can sit here and talk about this stuff is openly as we have to as many people who watch you i mean which is millions you know and be comfortable cool about it and feel like proud of it like yeah man. We're fucking survivors. Not gonna let. I'm not gonna let some drug addiction or some dark thaad or some loss of a girl or some whatever like ruined the gift that i've been given you know and i refuse digest about that I mean thinking about. I mentioned chris earlier and i went to chris. Cornell's funeral or chester bennington saying four chris cornell and then a month later. I'm sitting at chester zero a month later. I mean like these. It doesn't have to go that way. And these were two of the most gracious loving nicest guys chester would fucking show up before the crew and he would leave after they fucking closed the venue like he was a dedicated diehard. I've never seen anybody work with that ethic before Scott was a fucking sweetheart chris. Chris and i used to do. We used during twelve step panels when we did lollapalooza. So obviously of and jane's addiction ryan thing and during the day we reach out to rehab facilities and say. Hey bring bring your kids to the concert. Immune chris will hang out with them and they get to see a free concert with guys doing this with no chemicals in their body and having a fucking blast awesome so mean. Chris got to do that. And so when when when he lot when we lost him. I really really. It really broke my heart and especially like the kids that came and saw guys were probably like. Aw fuck like. I went and saw those guys and they told me it was. Okay now here they are. Well you know no not even that. I think it's valuable lesson them for them to know that is no guarantees. You know and like one of the guys that invited us down. Didn't make it sadly but one of them did and he's still doing something about it and you know why that is however that worked out that way. I don't know i'm not gonna question it. But i still have a responsibility to carry on that legacy that he and i started in his name. You knows that's always tell that story about him because people don't know what to giving guy he was. You know the kindest people often are the most damaged. And i feel like it's because they they don't want anyone else to feel the way they feel you know and they know what it's like for me. I know what it's like within my family structure. How different phrases intones and in the way things land on people you may not mean something a certain way but the words and the tone that you use and choose in the moment can land harder than the words and so. I think it's just about choosing your words. And not an owning for me. What i do in my relationship with my ex relationship now We still talk as I just show what's going on with me and my side of the thing. I don't sit there and go. You're not doing this. You're not doing that. You're not doing this. That's not my business. That's her business. My business is what i'm doing. And if i'm doing why do for me. And she's doing what she's due for her and we can communicate but that's how it works. I see that with you guys. I mean you know where you guys are at. It's it's a beautiful thing see so it's absolutely true. Communication is the biggest thing. I mean we you know. I'm a big advocate of therapy and big advocate of couples therapy. I'm a big advocate of therapy for yourself and you know just talking to people. It's so important. Because i mean even tommy's tons of fuckin- hard lifting heavy work on him. So yeah so you guys have that connection our you know how to phrase things. Yeah we work on. I mean we're not perfect. We definitely work on. Millwood is your nas. And and that's the thing is i will say that we definitely do you know and we have our moments where you know if one of us does say or do something. That's not like the favorite thing of the other person will be like okay. You know what. I'm gonna take a minute and like let me come back to you and were learning to like go and take a minute. Come back and go. You know what actually said that. The way of way you wanted to say often times. I think when we say things about how we feel it's coming from a place her or anger fear and then what happens is the other person's defense immediately. Goes up like that like that. Like hey you hurt me. What do you mean. I heard you. I'm everything perfect. what are you talking about. Take care of everything. You know what i mean like. That's where you go but like you pause for a second. You look at that thing fucking come down and then you can talk and say hey. This is someone i love. Who's hurting and i heard them out. Yeah there's a quote that you don't get to say whether you've heard someone or not like it's like you know you don't get to make that call it's there. I needed to hear that because Thank you welcome. I do take that on. you know. Sometimes when when the co-dependency thing comes up it's like yeah sometimes put myself i and taking care of myself. I fear that it hurts others. Really what i'm doing is attending to myself care. So i can be present in the future somporn. I feel like we touched on so many amazing things. It's been such a great podcast boosted two hours. I love it Guys make sure to follow. Dave and you have a dual diagnosis. Has its own instagram right. So it's just dual diagnosis on instagram. I'm tagging dave and everything so you obviously need to know where to find davies right here. So just go ahead and click the links. follow him. Followed you'll diagnosis. And you have so much going on right now you. You're doing a charity thing. You're doing the dual diagnosis stuff. You're doing you're constantly playing everything. So just keep up with him on his socials and wanna see what he has going on right now. It's his busy so It's really gray and try not to unseat him with a personal messages. Even though we. I love it. When i get them and i appreciate you guys saying how much it's helped you and whatnot. That's always a producing what i tell people. Yeah i love. I love the personal stories. And i do read them. Yeah i do too. I try law people. Ask me for what to do. And what i always tell them is like i have said everything i know i mean i. I'm not keeping some secret off this podcast. That the real answer like it's fucking hard work you know so i just i just tell them with love like. I wish i could tell you more. But anything that i've experienced where i i know i've shared already and those are the things that work for me. I love it. Well thank you so much for being here and you're the best than anyone out there who's struggling. I know i share better help as advertising howard cash. They support podcasts. Needs one third better. Hope dot com is a great resource. I thank you guys so much. The listening and Any postseason how to sleep in the comments below and.

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Dylan OBrien Says Something Beautiful Came Out Of The Maze Runner Stunt Accident That Nearly Ended His Career

Direct from Hollywood

03:48 min | 10 months ago

Dylan OBrien Says Something Beautiful Came Out Of The Maze Runner Stunt Accident That Nearly Ended His Career

"What's super nutritious super delicious, and a little nutty. American becomes the original supernet packed with all the good for you nutrition you need and the flavor that keeps the family coming back for. Recipes and more visit American Pecan Dot Com I'm Dr Wendy Walsh of the podcast mating matters. I believe nearly every human behavior is motivated by a desire for love love the romantic Indians I believe in happy endings sacks sometimes find myself looking for reasons to have sex for to hedge your reproductive odds of always been very active mating matters we explore how are ancient brains are interacting with the modern world listen to mating matters on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Direct from Hollywood actor Dylan. O'Brien might be best known for playing Thomas and the maze runner trilogy but it was actually that role that almost made him leave show business for good in two thousand sixteen while filming the final installment Dylan was struck by a car during a stunt and gravely injured. He suffered a massive concussion, a facial fracture but even more importantly, it's going broke his spirit and he considered retiring but in the end a positive came. Out of the experience for him, an appreciation for the meaningful connections in his life he tells variety I had friends that were so dear to me that I felt I had neglected for years all of a sudden. It was very important to me to nurture those relationships and not lose them. Dylan did return to acting eventually finishing that same maze runner production. He was injured on his latest project love and monsters is on Vod now that's direct from Hollywood. Feeling loss. Then we've got the PODCAST for you labyrinth. I'm Amanda Knox and I'm Christopher. Robinson. To be absolutely stuck to wind up in a life I never expected but everyone's got their own personal maze complete with dead ends, shortcuts and cars. So we're bringing your podcast where you can get lost on a cruise ship in the trauma of a mother's murder in a presidential campaign or in a corrupt court surrounded by ravenous. A podcast featuring unlikely obstacles a terrorist husband. Shadowy cabal a pregnant wife across the ocean. So come on, get lost with us as we bring you stories from Jon Ronson Lavar. Burton. Jasmine Muhammad Dave Navarro Andrew Yang Malcolm. Glad. Well, and others expect dark and hilarious misadventures, controversial questions and above all expect to arrive at unexpected places. Listen to labyrinths on the iheartradio APP on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Tie I'm Mary Ross and I'm hosting a new podcast vices reports with so much going on around the world and so many people telling you they have the definitive take on the news we bring you to the news so you can hear it for yourself from the newsroom that has earned more emmy nominations than any other news team. This podcast goes where you can't. Get Justice bringing you along to where it's all happening. Third SUSTER drolet. Rest of this evening is just the beginning of the night from conflict zones. That isn't a frontline. These guys are just firing rockets. The Labyrinth of digital life I'm not a conspiracy theorist I'm a conspiracy realist. Right now in the middle of a protest. Boy. You've never traveled quite like this. Yet the vice US reports podcast on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

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Unfiltered Episode 14 - Devin Coley

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1:23:19 hr | 2 years ago

Unfiltered Episode 14 - Devin Coley

"This week's episode of unfiltered is brought to you by tattoo awards dot com tattoo awards dot com showcases some of the best tattoo artwork from some of the best tattoo artist around the world world where artists can compete in several monthly competitions in different categories for a chance to win prizes from some of the leading tattooed companies inspires around each artist who contributes to the competition submits. Is there tattoos to be voted on by their peers. Points are awarded according to votes at the end of each month top three to five places in each competition wins prizes points are also tallied on running leaderboard and the top leaders at the end of the year when fifty thousand dollars in cash prizes go check it out now tattoo awards dot com and get in on the action <music>. Welcome to the unfiltered podcast with your host scotty whitaker. Nothing is off limits. When we sit down with your favorite artists and industry professionals and talk about whatever comes up so sit back smoke in your favorite beverage and get ready for one hell of a ride unfiltered starts <music> tweet. You can hear your own voice well. That's that's the point of the headphones devon and by the way we are recording. I like to do this because you get real. People come in your house. Hold on is this. What is this pathogen party in the seat fixed instead. Don't put your bucket. No it ain't it's. I think i had you invite me to your house over here. They have a seat scotty and it looks looks like somebody took a shop right in the bucket. What and you got. You got scholar over here. Cleaning and scholars like what the and the puck and chair handed the scottish. Oh my god for anybody that don't recognize. How's that lack. This can't be giggle fast. It's a tattoo fast prob- not a giggle fast every facet. It's all right. I got to say this is this is a got. I say this all the time. This is what people do but this this legit <hes> <hes>. That's my boy a known you for. I don't know how fucking loan it's been lonely. Yeah we met here. We did meet here and and <hes> and i'm just gonna go right into it <hes> at devon kelly d. n. c. o. l. e. <hes> painter tattoo had to and cat dad. I love my cat and we're not talking about catch right now on my <hes>. Is this claim oh yeah yeah yeah okay. I'm scared after i saw the latest okay this right here eventually too. I don't know if you actually need to win. I saw you walk in late for the interview interview auto first of all. I welcome this unfiltered podcast. Gotta wear we do things a little different than professional people just roll with it and then in <hes> but anyway we're here with devon at the <hes> ink-in-arm tattoo x. tattooing gun expert. We got guns devon those fit that only i yeah i know we we got some mouser. There's an a._k._47. Several shotguns and pistols right beside so i was doing it one way. I look at this guy joe. I just saw someone holding an alligator in an a._k._47. We have alligators crocodiles. <hes> <hes> and there is a twenty seven year old parrot back. Yes twenty seven years old that you rescue is it smart used is very smart and it. It is the angriest fucking bird in the world. It used to belong to a truck driver so the do well yes for years it it road trip for like fourteen fourteen years. It's twenty seven years old. So what ended up happening. Dude got married lousy job or something anyway you got married and put the bird quit jobs truck but put the bird in a room for four years and it was just a federal desa bird was like the fuck is wrong with you. Mother fuckers put me in the goddamn room for four maga's technically. I think the room was bigger than his drug true but nobody it didn't know interact interact so then got rescued. They did the same thing those shitty rescuer. So how do you get burned. If you don't wanna burn exactly so do stay in calling this guy back here and i'm i'm sorry guys. I don't know your name or who you with but thanks for coming to <hes> that was terrible. Such bad you know the parents mckinsey or some shit. That's terrible another damn pair of yeah. That is kind of kind of craziness this. I'm i'm sorry but <hes> perry donor. Thanks you know it's okay donated to doing because he's a rescue that so it it doesn't matter no. I said he gets this call and the guy was like hey man you. Gotta come get displaced bird. It's a dame took tells him the stories okay. I'm gonna come get this fucking damon. Burji got so dude dog will smell fear and all that kind of shit dogs. It's no thing i got a cat okay. You don't know that you know how your cat knows. You don't know that guy. Oh yeah kinda same thing says parrot. This guy walks in this room and the dude is like hiding behind door. The dude that actually owned by the bundy's were companies that focus mainly shit dude walks in opening the cage and and just lays there for like ten minutes and he said the bird kept kind of doing this little back and forth who gets to the dam side of the door looks up at dude he plugs his hand out bird climbs up on his shoulder and from that day on us never done no he doesn't clip its wings. He's had it for our home's been yeah. He did his outside and i was like i said you clip. He's a he's a the thank can fly like in anywhere. It wants go but it won't. He doesn't have like tide or like those eagles things no. He just fucking despair does what else that's why <hes> but anyway. I gotta go see that bird. Look up my in fact. We'll go back to their own pocket because we're mobile. Oh yeah i saw that. When you guys were walking around we're going to smoke drugs and stuff out her yeah <hes> but kind of because as as you know as you don't know because you haven't heard my podcast i listen to it. Well just thought i'd put jones partner. No no yeah yeah yeah. I haven't heard him although whoa. They're not all even up. What's the one with josh i didn't. I heard the listen to teach one. I listened to that other dude. <hes> i forget his name but it was like i think the first served in the second one because putin was the first pooches i in steve. <hes> state was speaks. Dave with yada got planes and oh steve huge politics not and again it was my second time here and <hes> actually that's not even true. Steve was the very first one i did. I'll just releasing eh rob dozen different colors when he has the pull them out and stuff it just because i get him different cards and that's how organizaion no what what happened was steve is. I thought i hit record the nap done fifteen of these days seventeen seventeen. It was honestly improbably the funniest thing i've ever done with somebody. An hour and forty five minutes may not do talk and it was fucking hilarious and right when not go closer. I looked down hit the off button and i might hyper <hes> you want to do that like more. Can we retake that. He's like what am mike. It's not recording and he's he's the did you could've fucking killed a shit and i'm like so what a nice did. They did it again. Yeah no no he well. He did write them but i told him that i really wanna legit to another and i said but i need some content now and i'm i'm like let's do a condensed version to see how that comes up. And of course it was shit. It's okay but that a hundred percent m saying aw that dude is fucking away. I don't know why he had to. He was good at that. Motherfucker is eddie murphy so i'm letting this go go on and i'm gonna just openly put him on the spot because that's what i did do it will row with but i never used this shit right. I mean like i said there's all me buttons in in turn things over but this is the only one touch and on off and records that's it. You don't always get that one. Make sure we're yeah so anyway. I guess what i'm saying. Is we ask rounded out. Whatever fuck we'll talk about. We'll talk about it comes. The bucket squirrel wrote trump's crossbar. We'll talk about his world tight. I like your shirt thank you that was a good show last week. He super cool. <hes> bristol chris tattooed fish just to brown. It was fucking amazing. I friends in bristol what you should tell me because i know you had something going on because i asked me to do the russian <hes> maybe i was in baltimore probably probably <hes> now. I must go back up to go back to when i met i forget where we were painter. Hocken on my god this ransom passover bad. It wasn't bad and that's the thing like you were right. There was your food yeah yeah. It was pointed that way and i walked by we talked to sit with you know the guy introducing what not and now i do paintings and stuff like that and <hes> and we we we became friends and two thousand twelve in this is gonna embarrass me if i'm wrong. I wanna say the date on that that painting you gave me through those twelve. I noticed about the print. You tried to give it to me. I said no no. I'm like no it's this. Is your day free to come here. You know i get it sure and <hes> so about it. It's fucking rabbit that has the puck and rabbit is is bucket dilapidated old bucket. Whole torah rabbit was above gambling shit going on and it's just it's bucking me do nothing of obama. Apparently i'm rabbit 'cause that's just though and i won't so by and i had i've had it ever since and it's had two shops as and it's been in both shops in the house and my wife and i moved out here and i'm on it was ter dude do if i'm unorganized as fuck when that's that's and i've the real bad problem of going to people's houses and i will move their on their richer clock. Barbecue is my hey. I gotta go back. I go take piss. I'm gonna move all your shit. Oh my god. I love start doing that. Taking people's dishes out of one cabinet putting another one put their food and other candidates legit legit. I'm taking but so. I'm keeping my where my my artist. I came home one day and the rat was gone breath. I lost. I lost my fucking shit like in disease rhetoric. My wife was at the beach which kids at the beach. I'm fucking moroccan rabbit. Blah blah blah folly. I get it on my christie texture like a hundred times what is going on. Where is my rabbits. She's like what are you talking about on my bucket radic dude as scott. I'm bucket painting got this in the living room. The eight by painting that i have like what my whole world is tall straightened out because dot com while the house without looking and she didn't and coaches rob watson had just moved out. That's what she turned into art. Okay kuku. I don't know i just come in groups that i was listening and so i'll go oh naked it and i'll put it back where it was the and <hes> or she comes home couple of days. I made an art room on purley scott. We we yeah we have. We always always lose but i saw you. <hes> we lost touch for awhile not lost to us but i didn't see well. Yeah 'cause i right after that. Five months later i got my apprenticeship and then that was you know attention hard. I do remember that you know buck in state balls at wall with that but i saw you. We're gonna see you when you said i'm going to send was we'll know sadly i've been. I was saying it for a while older perk. The first i am you had you had said i'm gonna give you that one day and i'm like it's cold and that was probably a year ago or so honestly <hes> but then lo and behold i got the original original baby yeah yeah i even though you said i hate that book is that is that i've got three pieces of art that are not absolute. I've got a lot of clone imagine then they haven't also got one piece of it's a charcoal thing which real charcoal signature bass hugged around <hes> tom ridge woman and in that motherfucker his name's ezekiel dismay but anyway. I love that thank so you know so you're you're art was one thing and you are always hard on yourself do not i'd be like to ship the socks and i'm like i'm like this must be the satisfaction attestation. I hate that too i did yesterday that is so tight. It's it's got to be fucked like that. Scott in camila band career. You could take that shit home thought the puck and trash might he's feeling is but this little kid try and and you are in how i was twenty two twenty three you were going to well. That's when young we're still hitting twenty four twenty five thirty two shit it's been it's been a while. I'm having have one hundred nine got all my god you remember you told my brother and i the story. You saw him the night before guy with that huge fucking ball. Yes and i just told us to oregon that do my brother to this day. No the guy with the ball look plus go win. Talent is size of that. Fuck unit will okay. Let me set this up. I did i got i got seven listen. This is good stuff so we were here at bart. Andrus show bark mud love your wood up buddy and hyper <hes> just at their show where i heard it was good gap <hes> but we were here and <hes> it was me james several people up there but i mean when you put me in james together all my good. It's it's heart. Dad's dad's fire right so there was a dude in fuck. I wish i knew there was a dude. I'm a child explain. This the best here's a we're outside outside smoking cigarettes to the interest and those bob military guys that were hanging out with marines and <hes> when we go out and then their families can be in this one particular dude had sweatpants and they were they were the rather large sweat mix and the guy was only like five for two okay for real and he had on in some big and tall sweatpants spit that bureau me to tell you right now so i'm going to stand up. I'm on right so now. They're standing there with his hands on his hips looking. I'm trying to play his best again and his hands on his hips and his he's got that that look like he's at a dance party. The celtics and the start stages huckabee but he's rocking his hips back for forward and backward and i did not notice just grandfather clock and all of a sudden we're just bullshitting and <hes> james looks down any elbow this shit out of me and i'm like what because he hit me hard to look at his is the way is is bug it out what he's looking. Dacca's gosh not just fucking scream it out and i'm not the buck and finally into just keep rockin and he and his friends bust out life just fucking bust out laughing often this half james like obviously whenever he wears bucket sweatpants james is like whoa and he starts pointing and it gets down he gets down on one knee and he's in the crotch pointing at his this pendulum swinging in because you say it just knocking the fucking the front of his tape and it's just it was huge it was it was the size of a cantaloupe been. I'm not even exaggerating right now. He had one one testicle so the other ones the other one was normal one testicle that was swollen up the size of fuckin- kennel and just just doing it back and forth aims down there decide what fucking hell fuck death and dude is taking in in these buddies are just like you gotta tell them you got a fucking show him again. You gotta show of course of course if you've got an mike how you gotta share dude pulls his mother fucking sweat pants down and sure enough there is a buck and cantaloupe and a ball and we're all just totally just fucking buckets solid looking at district giant nut and finally james like what the fuck is wrong and do stars ars tells he's like man is i said how long how long has it been like. This happens overnight. What the fuck wise. You still have it. What's doctor. He's about seven months now might what so he's just been swinging at fruit might as i said the hardest as part of a motorcycle. I said imagine that ride for punish the n._f._l. Mike do what what why can't take enough with what's going on. He says had it checked. Not a tumor not bothered by the doctor says is dumb. If i feel you know it's not gonna hurt me and i'm like so you're hardy yeah right. I mean i did all questions. He's like not don't bother me. I'm used to it now. It's going to get the job your shoulder older men with the puck is going on. Maybe that's his former protection. You know he just takes that thing. He was active military. Woes centers run all the time. You have to drag decamp pop. You're like what the fuck so yeah that that that was legit story story. Oh my god i'd still like you coming in with your ours so damn wan to tell us the door. Somebody has a picture. Oh god say i wanna say it's josh. I think josh has picture that yeah but dude. It was fucking insane shit. Josh did that damn convert the number shown del broke. That was delbra. That's caught up. I remember that the wild yeah that that was insane the higher foot and it blew up fucking blue the ad <hes> but let's get back to a ah digit apprenticeship you fucking again you know by. You always know you work stellar. Thank you i. I love it and <hes> then recos carl start out <hes>. But how long have you been tattooed. It'll be six years years in july but you're killing abroad are you. Are you doing any painting anymore. So i know you sent me the skull with we'll yeah which was still like yeah <hes> older fourteen fifteen yeah yes so i kinda stopped so i was water a lot and then i honestly probably two or three years ago. Stop completely really yeah and then i started teaching myself out of oil pay <hes> so i've done that for like to pay like three years but <hes> like finished yeah i got to finish beings but that's it but <hes> i started getting it was like forcing me to learn in color theory which was really great but then honestly for like the past year and a half probably. I just realized i just wasn't good enough to draw yeah. That was my weakness so i just stopped painting. I stopped doing everything and i draw draw draw. Draw draw draw draw by suharto's because you are your heart on your art. Row your hardest local news. I'm just very obsessive. You know like like nobody ever think like social <hes> so it's okay you know we'll get me wrong. I some of them that got shin. It's tight and i'm like you're well aware of your pancreas. Thank you know you're one of the you're like sterling. Sterling is so hard on herself. Is it good you man nelson good ship. I wanna step it up on my just like he didn't do anything and that's what you know mike well and cleaned. That's my thing. Do it clean bill like no matter what you do do it. You know just a clean. Tech has then people can say. I don't like the subject matter. I don't like the style. I don't like this. I don't like that. They can't deny us to clean tackling. You know it's like what do <hes> right. When i'm judging there's there's a lot of styles and i won't go there because that of called the whole fucking riff with some some of my friends but there's a lot of styles i don't like but that's the great thing about being a person like what we want to like him but i'm still fair as when it cubs judging that stuff because i just don't like it don't mean a mind it's always dote and i've been on stage of people will do that of course paul and mike understand like it is tough. You know it's tough because like i think a lotta times judges just also will just look at the subject matter even overstock scooby doo scooby doo organ motherfucker look at the tattoo tattoo jutting conduct. This isn't like what you like what you don't don't dave navarro. Don't don't let's. That's a new thing we're gonna start views <hes> that that's fifty two years old by the way that's older than the payer welcoming it actually is you see how we just gosh. It does <hes> but this just keep. I actually liked the fact that you're drawing. <hes> puerto rico do kind of blew. My mind signed so that was like what end november six months ago. Whatever and i just walked around like you know victor james james tax and all these guys and victory so sweetie. Let me sit down. Just watch him do a hand for like power and a half two hours you know but like and i'm definitely picking up things. He's doing device that but i mean like i know how to apply a tattoo but the main reason these guys are crushing it. He's because they can draw the fucking azoff and remember as you draw the first draft or what you wanna do when you tattoo you're redrawn but or even or even if your your genes taxiing pretty much all the strong on but he's still t- draws but then he draws wait in-stat tuning and that's what makes it so good. That's all those little things they do. You know that's because redraws. People people used to ask jane well. They still do the pass james von like how do you do that. James says pucker to draw yeah. I know i will yeah and he's like a scam. You know is like it puts you more of. I think that you more in tune with with what's happening because now you're forced to to actually do it quicker right you know and to be a little bit more precise about thanks plus now. You're you're flowing with the body because you're drawing him. I don't exactly zac. It'll never fit better than it well. It always always tales when you when you look at if you were to look at a piece that somebody to pieces the same exact thing but one dude fucking stances wonder draw of i mean of course it's going. It'll be different but it's so different and so much different in the how this close in general. I agree nancy. I will say i that's what i love about the ipad now <hes> i think it's it's a cursed in a lot of ways because it's making people draw less one hundred percent. It's just it's a tow it is but but i swear like it just i find i find people that it's glorify trason pad and then some people where like it it is great like i drawn every moment of day so i'm drawing growing more than i ever have but what i really like about it everyone that i do a console with i say send me a picture of the body part so technically. I am drawing it on you. Try much so like when i put a stent we can make it bigger or smaller but it's going to be perfectly proportioned into your all the girl yesterday i did. It was back in the need of the ankle draw nothing. It was perfect to her leg. I decided expand. You know what i'm saying but i mean if it perfect it to her leg without i'd never seen it before but she sent me a picture so i do. I do like that that i mean obviously drawing on will always be the best for fitting but it does make way. Do you photoshop your shit. When you hell no. I'm also like an. I know it's people hate me for did it but it's like i don't like the ring my shit either with a filter and the only reason and i'll say the only reason why i was in texas i did this snakehead. Hey kid going on and face and i took some pictures of it at the show and then we went back to go. Tell all we got this thing and i was like ooh ooh man russ avid thing they talking about and stuff you know and i love russia and also all the people that were using it on arm. My favorite people like run and also it don't matter because they're tad's look great but but you know i would so we went back to the room and i think a big part of it. Too is turned off all the lights. Take this photo. This snake has was so called him black. I've never seen in my life black like and you looked at it. You couldn't even see ports but it was a head tap and head taxed looked like tasks like they don't look like i i've seen arm and leg tattoos then. I'm like man i that doesn't even look like attack but had dad's look ahead time and on and it just didn't and i couldn't and i was i was <hes> a person was canal bed next to me and i said i said look at this and look at this. I said he didn't it didn't look like that in real life light very ten and and you know she looked jews like well you know jere. Call you know 'cause like that's the thing like. She dried up really good like it's like it's just your car is not unethical. It's just you have to decide. If it's cool with you and it just for me at the you ain't got explained your shit wanna do exactly but then i've also seen homeys do it and like they do it in normal lighting and it really honestly it. It just makes the glare go away and i think that's totally smart. I don't see anything wrong with the life and again. It's it's because because i think some people in there and they'll they'll call can add landmark will that <hes> that i can catch a a a circle blurred tool from a mile yeah tax and you're like but the problem i have with with this is to people are focused on catching catching the people don't do but but that's that's just internet rose just trolls. Am i keep my stand trolls because like i'm just like a dude bike by sin came to the show us late this morning with a twelve pack of beer and you actually want mommy's so high you house version. Hey you go any like oh. Hey i'm on time eleven. Oh nice nice watch fake. Watchman is that is so you're one of those as just a black circle liga that that's pretty but i can actually read that put time. Are you fucking kidding me. Yeah i don't know are you serious. It has twelve twenty three powell regia. Owlry clots walks with skill mapping. It might be a little brasi. That's what i was this. It's morning. I was just i like shaking his head. No no it's not so well. He agrees but look right now. We're gonna go smooth figgers because hey we got this fancy thing that we can walk around and do this and we're gonna talk shit. That's awesome. I might need to pitcher on my manners. There was a hope the soviet that she lets off off this way. I wanna i wanna hope like hell that something's over here and literally just point at siga reaction however it was if it was it was probably it's probably laying down now but it was standing up when i came in. Oh fucked me up for just the whole thing about watch what you wear wear to a convention. Obviously <hes> you know so. It's one of those things that have the bill so you've got to witness this and <hes> by <hes> did you you saw that yeah. It's a at that's almost like that's it. You're like oh my what if your client. What does it good one. What would you do if you're claude. Plot put a. I put a draped cloth. What did i say but i want to be exposed like this. I think i probably wouldn't care at all brown yeah. <hes> i mean it. It's one of those things who shows like did not even record. Noah turned around. I said no. I mean like it shows too. It's always weird man gentleman's lady. What's what's up boys. Yes tethered hazard. We've never been close. We're not gonna get low. Well no what i'll still still get lost. You got show you what they did to me bro. I don't know how you doing sir doing pretty good clo- attached exaggrating. We've talked to the fucking fucking as a fucking. Your drone was exact range. You totally uh-huh okay. Folks were outside now those ladies on the road. What are they doing. We're not supposed to be on that verandah. So how do you remember it used to be. Everyone had to walk across the street over there and they were hard. Oh oh my god they put more. Oh my the son of a bitches has a maze. It's not amazing there. That's embarrassing as fuck. They need you with your hat. Remember your hat it from gettysburg. Yes bro look at this and there's a fucking mosquito trying to get them all right there. Again came back outside yaw aw and came outside. There are pictures of me posted tate to the window. Uh devon's got a strong wind. Listen that roar. It sounds like chile that there's pictures of me all over the wind type to the window and it's not even cool oh right now but i can live with it is what it is. <hes> all you gotta do this yeah when you call if you don't have to turn all you got to discover bro. It's all good but that's what that stuff a school me on this. What is that oh. It's <hes> like an oil pan regular vape vaporizer no limping yeah. It's like a a vape pen with yeah. No they're great <hes> like in boston. Everything's legal <hes> <hes> <hes> it's recreational <hes> you can walk around up to announce okay but so if you're walkin down here and you're like pay but in boston i'm good brother. We'll see the last time i came out. You don't have to whisper. You're looking around to the last time i came here. I've been and <hes>. I just had like a little bit of bud so i wrote up in j but like i'm not thinking. I'm thinking 'cause i'm in boston. I wasn't traveling as much so like i'm just not used to being you know not having it so i'm walking around and like you know wearing a stone cold sure and and a cop comes by and he kinda checks the brakes split-second. I turned into like twelve or fifteen years old again. I was just like back in some parts shit and of course now the command at this point cameras and i was like twenty nine in years old a grown ass man. What the hell and i i didn't have any papers so i was like ronit with line. Paper legal pad lime. I'm vapor. Oh my god oh flat. We've got flash by a man by man. I think we need to look at this. What the fuck is this partying on a wagon and paddling and at the same time so are they moving the wagon with their pedal will the girl on the backs not because she ain't paddle. She don't need to bet them boys over here and <hes> i happen to know that he will invite you in the back of that toy. Take care in gettysburg. Let me just go ahead and i'm joan. I'm gonna put your table broken. I'm so proud of this yeah. I just want because i've i've not talked to you since then personally so i never got the gist of the entire thing however us like my mom probably wouldn't be proud of me right now but but <hes> we're we're having a good time that music sloughs about anyway. They're still partying on that. These are good microphones yeah. I'm moscow still keep forgetting that i can hear myself right here. Things around me are really that just happened. It's kind of like when you're turpin. You know kinda crazy this sunday but we're we're. We're engaged berg and utada this girl she was cute. Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah and then you like dude. Thank you know she. She's talking about hooking up and stuff and and i was like cool hey have at <hes>. You know. He's gonna be like that. I'm like what do you mean. I got trump is leaving truck as it use it. I got some big in the back of my damn toyota. I'm fucking walking hooking it us. Let them in a walmart parking lot. It is what it is. Artists degree and dude dope go to a walmart working line impressed winter is never made the commission as <hes>. No actually yeah never went through and everyone through but yeah because i was with another girl who i was just there with like other artists. It wasn't going to be rooting for us. Hey let's go do this. Show and she's like yeah and when you get there. Are you like pulling the walmart as you see like. What are you doing about this room. It's kind of weird too. 'cause you gotta crawl back. You know so she'll like that but yeah. That's what i normally. They do 'cause i. I'll do a hotel for saturday night. You know russell one night but then for the rest of the time you just sleep in the truck. Don't you don't have is a is a shower. You're a bedside table. I've got a little arm clock. I got lighting got a little stand for my ipad do no they. They make their coming back by they do make they're going to yell at us. What song that when they went behind think is just on on a loop is probably a little bit probably that playlist and that'd be just rock. Look at it look at him. He loves his job. Yes who <hes> this is so cool. He's who he is not creepy at all he because he fucking rock and roll fucking rock and roll me and looked like he blew me a kiss. I'm not sure sure about that seems horrible like who would want to go out drinking and biking <hes> those four ladies and the other the girl looks like she is not happy with their pumping up for the crowd now. Let's walk only in the past. Oh yeah exactly now what i was saying that they they make a cold shower that fits on the back of your truck really yes they do and it has a curtain albro see that's all because i don't know if you know this about i mean but i'm a shower holic i so i take i take two to three showers a day. Always clean when i say we're going to split the show we don't care about no rail just grind and she'll look at crystal chris. Why are you limping. 'cause you butts too big. Oh that's thank you. I can't even get in police starting now uh in boston. It's legal in boston. Not local always always said that loud cobra gonna make me high in the in a the marketing barrage cooler what <hes> the we don't got none your size rigor mortis. What why are you sure yeah. What is don't call. What are they doing. Do you have a cold cop. Stuck up something. Look how she's welcome win. Let's let's do we're. We're malkan crystal. Walk down to the dock. We look really weird guy with the he's now. Wow this is this is about that. There's children. You know that's crazy to when pe- people will bring like like six day obi. Oh is your guy. Yesterday was hold. Hold on with cycle. Maybe three days old is peanut yeah. They keep a saigo exactly exactly as i surprise wearing tight now folks. This broad apologized. Rob rob has to take the sound out of this gary. I'm gonna catch a three and we're gonna be fine for say code one two three okay. Who is that little bit of saw a masala were we don't talk and then he tries to pull them out it is it's incredible. Credible edit cold this. I'm although health eighty five just walk over here to trust in the wrong person. All you ever held a news ninety nine. That's the scariest thing i've ever seen all my god. I still couldn't tell if it was fake. Agents hand scares and go go ahead of the kid scotty currently as flicking off immediately given the perfect talk a little bit what the hell's going on joe future w._s. At sterling crisis child that's of never like fully introduce myself and then all the huddle over. I'm so sorry about the loudness grateful. I'd i see i see you at every show. I go to and i never actually. I'd you know because i kind of like he's weird. When you see people enough times that you think you know them but you don't know like and men then he gets too weird because then you're like oh i don't wanna go up and be like hey man nice to meet you in your. I'd seen you at the last two years in a row now yeah exactly it's nice fine. Thank you goes grinding out yeah. Last time i saw you had long hair. Dove couldn't have said and i got tired long especially with the beard. This is never going back. I'm like samson dancing. Cut it off all ability. He's type house. How's your how you going on these days. It's thirty minutes so come. Check it out not doing portrait. I'm back. Will you hold this scared devon because you don't trust me events israel's how high sai baba the kid it come on a woman to allow the clipper neck alvin. Oh god we're going to handwrite now. <hes> waving at people are pond. I i love pawn ponds awesome pay but over here <hes> we have eastern exotic wildlife foundation east where that's a turtle that is the tortoise at the land tour is not apparent that is not the one but that one looks grumpy as hey has this saying he also looks old <hes> he does look the one the other one that comes to people that probably that motherfucker looks mad as yeah. The other one was actually is allows apparent. I wouldn't want to be an attack. I mean look at this was gonna slumped over your dad but yeah he's got a tortoise. This lady's hold or something like of child. There's i don't know what that is but it looks like it looks like an off. That's weird. I don't put some kind of lizard thursday something crawling up. This guy's fucking on yeah. It's like a gator iguana mix. I think they're really cool but i just i don't need them crawling on. I don't it's the texture man touch this at all. Nope where that's different bird. You old-fashioned the after in the house. They were brought saranac. He lives jacked so that he just looks angry. Excellent sheep really doing that like a ah big each really berg cider really mad yeah. How how old is she there on your hands when you're doing all this stuff and he's like this. Guy's got six fingers. Tell you whether the best way to hide a snake on your hands is have a gigantic lizard on how old is chaired. Active twenty seven twenty seven also twenty six okay normal life expectancies of eighty those big birds around about eighty yeah. We can't have one. We're gonna be dead before they're gonna be dead before my eyes tortoises. They live about one hundred fifty hundred sixty so you gotta will win now. It needs full grown. You'll be survey day to sit on his cell. He rides that spoken. Also it's great like closure mouth. I'm just thinking about riding toward aziz <hes> she got she got the snake as attached to you know identify tattooed <hes> ownership stake. Look at that. I love it. That's all i love it. He's a coup yeah. Look at dan claws on and now that is all some <hes>. You didn't bring crocodile. You did riding the crocodile back yep. He's he's got a crocodile yeah. I think that's what i saw the girl with aka <hes> maybe i don't know if you'll let your not but we're gonna ask him to your have hold. It's got a tape on it. Yes he does. He's take this hand off just like that. That's this very go then. We'll put this up under crazy. You're patting crocodile. I'm heading the crocodiles. Are you serious probably be that. You'll keep your hands. I hear his job on this whole. Shit is attention to this man. So how do i squeeze jaw. Don't squeezy skier just giving you don't hurt the puck in the crocodile. Better take this picture. I'm thinking it'd be motherfucker taking video. You're visibly shaken right now. I am free to fuck out. This is good stuff. I liked that look at the look on your face is fucking priceless right. Oh my god there you go. You don't have to stand motionless like a tree open up his mouth sticky finger. When you see that montek is gonna turn around and see this this and aw this is so crazy. I'm good. He said he's good. They gotta get more detail than fucker can't find goddamn fucking kidding me. I title by six rolls date. Motherfuckers shit snake does attack me. It didn't excite no it d- i bumped into it feels the heat ultima body that is awesome. You just hailed crocodile. That's next looking more. You're still shaking from the that was awesome. Thank you given experienced -perienced. Will i'll tell you what the moisture underneath my armpits at the shower. I am definitely showering after this edna. You're good now that you feel at home all it up here but even though it's so saw then is awesome yeah the bottom so saw aw oh my god how old is this is probably about three three half and the robot a foot of happy ear and you'll get a tax of nine can you <hes> or let's crocodile police south america whereas the little walk over there spurrier me always joke whenever one of us having the always open his mouth and because you think chase at each other <hes> that's that's amazing nipple clamps. That's awesome. That's incredible. I gotta say that the snake on the hand when we were just cruise kind of fuckin- snow's good stuff well. Thank thank you so much man coming checks. We're walking into the crocodile. You did with with no tape as long as there's came in and he's a nipper yeah. He's he's a nipple nipper. Yeah i'm good with that. This warning was found in a bag of multi. Voltaire rolled out literally jackson that african law this study duckie. His name is duck. Hormoner was full gosh. She looks very friendly nine half but she knows i mean she. We know you take gap. She could ever moments but <hes> his philosopher pause motherfucking donoso his head all the scratch smart dishes for him to sit up there and i didn't have long so it was all really second-largest lizard in the world only komodo dragons bigger by six inches. I'm serious serious so she's a baby. Goo goo side toews. They'll get about four more inches so there could be ten inches as long. Where'd you find towed side. They surrendered people. Drop them off to us. Oh i have this. I can't take care of the rain where where they normally from from my russillo zillow they get nervous came into cocaine little holes though plus out and it's a neuro toxin also though the poison probes route kind of the hallucinogenic are the ones that you'll have wanted to reactions really. They're really really like muscles. Is it like a muscle relaxer like you're going to get like tense paralyzed. No shifts thirty forty minutes fifty fifty shot ten liquor uh-huh held a gate your own <hes> you held a crocodile and you look did did you see her hand is pop outlet made. You like big here will do that. I think he'll do it. He said he's going to you're supposed to do one thing. Every every day that scares me i already did one thing and it really scared me though she's rose haired tarantula or my hands five five years old but underneath they got fangs for about half an inch. Oh great who speaks no good is that she was despite it'd be like a beast same benefit all that stuff jairo okay. I'm good uh-huh at this guy says so edit time and then he says are you allergic to bees wouldn't eat me rosen. I'm i'm like it's my hands to sweep sweet man. Everything keeps licking. Put hand out scorpion dude but you you're holding your hand out like it's okay. Hey bro. I know i was shaking on the on the tarantula. I wanna be a bit hit me. I need you okay yeah. I don't know about the scorpio. Oh you don't mind this all this is going to be. This is going to be good. This is one twenty three. It's all know where right now you can take a full yeah. He could take full mouthy sucker. Dr take a mouse ravin latch onto jacket with this that solves it from the inside out and basically search it up like most shaking but maybe it's a baby. That's a baby <hes> look up a bit in these centipede impede in this one as a child and looks like watched some of it. It looks like it's legs can discount you wide open on yeah. I'm good on on and he said it can take an suck a mousetrap. Oh yeah that's true off true emperor inches. He was gonna let you could yeah. He's held the i've held like crocodiles. Yeah i'm good. I'll show you what w w leap frog basic yeah man. I get all the time and my mom's a shower outside shower that sounded weird and my mom's house outside shower so like we help the crocodile big snake. I'm all i'm all in umbro. I'm all in yeah. I get to the bird the bird at least its bird. <hes> got hold on business coma. I got a body. He's he's fixing to buy cheap. I'm i'm like oh. Just gonna blow your home. You gotta golly. What's that pterodactyl tango. I wish it's a little plume would come up. That would be cool because that means. It likes you or really hates me or really hate. You wanted to today's today you have you have just adventure time. This is amazing. I guess i would have never done this your it don't it don't even four seconds. I thought i thought you had a good good friend. Entire act on may seven year old bird discount on your arm. I'll tell you what good. Tom is a sample of basically what we've been rescued. This is wild so do you have like a big rancher. Somebody is out of my house of his house right now eastern exotic wildlife foundation. Y'all look them up. Give them a little. It'll help yeah that was doing good things for the people that are irresponsible exactly and purchase things that go oh my god markings on. It's beautiful <music>. I'm in yeah and then all of a sudden. You're like oh yeah. That's that's why i got a cat home. Yeah there you go takes care of itself. Does the baddest accounting scared the child scared mitch make is that was that was a child children do scare me more than but yeah eastern exotics wildlife foundation. Y'all gonna look help them out a little bit because they're saving all that list super creators. Oh dear nuts. What are your head is that call at a hold this black and white argentine black and white take and <hes> i was told it's like a puppy they have serrated teeth and meters than the vegetables. They eat meat devin. This is it's natural chew and your. I guess that's not really. I think my hair does needs to be washed. Honestly wars g._m. Chu is junior like a puppy face that way but turn your head this. It is all done turning the look at the look at those shirts over there to your other side consume. That thing loves your beautiful. Hey my hair. Yes german shepherd. That's so funny. You can teach that take you tricks. I almo god asking train them. They recognize you. Play this giant lizard auditory. I love whitfield. This giant ryan lizard is plenty trade. That's why it's crazy. It probably is suffering because your cat when your cat gets mad at bucket sprays and fucking does things the hell <music> about lows amazing man. I'd say no ma'am and she stops. She's still sure she does when you're gone. You're like fuck you devon that she does probably go crazy when i'm gonna do that. Thing is very it likes your hair a lot grill. I'm gonna tell you right now. Really likes your user. Toes the smell so that's why he'll sit there. <hes> you just got kissed on the cheek. <hes> look at all. That's awesome well. Thank you so much man. That was awesome jeez. You know i just slots wait next. Tell the story in the second. You have the steak and i'm gonna tell them so. I was on the interwebs the other day i was watching this video campbell and there was a snake that was actually smaller than this night and gentleman's doing what dispels doing right now go so. Let's walk on out a little bit. Their devotees is and the snake has a tattoo of a motorcycle on so in this video in this video devon the gentleman put the snake around him like that and then and fifteen seconds he failed to the ground and i'm like oh my god what happened so the snake choked him out and he just fucked falls to the ground eighty pows like she could just think about that. Why are you not talking talking because i have an eight ferris about one eighty two. Oh shit two hundred and twenty pounds full row. I can and feel like muscles like going all round four four and a half years old right now. Let's and she eats what right it now. Rabbit this girl and around my leg she did is throw all his walk by then it had literally tells me why are you serious out so <music> sings around my leg. She's comfortable. She mike it. I e you guys shorts on her tales right there. It goes going up. It's is going up going up. This is insane boom boom boom. She's feeling you feeling you up right now. <music> that is so most action i got so she probably what might be in the back of the truck either man. She loved combed combed kidding me. That is freaking awesome. The all man with thank you sir. You're more than welcome man. Wow that was wild tally tally. That is a huge. Her tail is wrapped right around your ball sack right now yeah when it went around my leg and then you walk the walk out. Thank you so much life yeah for sure for sure. That was awesome the whole easy. What happens when you hang out with me breath sweating so you does that thing shell refugees. I got it on video. He was talking to someone i was like. Does he know that this thing is. This is gonna things like talking to everyone. As i got a problem you held a crocodile with its mouth with the tape and open europe be secure to them. He his terrible explaining how to hold the he goes. He goes hold onto his house like tight. He goes no not tight but he goes but definitely been making firm the i i think i liked the bar where he had you tarantula and then he played how long things are and then then then he says smart the logic with what you said yes. I know that's what i thought. What if i said i think he would have been like okay back and <hes> we don't have our epi pen with exactly exactly what it is why into him in that other guy all them right now but that's that's <hes>. It had different animals yesterday so he's got. He's got a lot of a lot of stuff happening at the house badge bringing the throwback that house now that would be that's gonna be how would you look. Are you allergic to basically have tried to to everybody. <hes> are any kind are frogs. Turtles do handle that once and meet that tow until it liquor and other be fucked up or be parallel did like that one that one was good. You know you you ride motorcycles zain mann. I die then you probably would you know i i feel like everyone that knows me yeah. It's probably not a good idea. We're gonna walk down this way. We're gonna talk shit to this fellow here. Just go just go with what i'm dat discovery. Go go where you're doing so that was <hes> that guy that tattoo dollar guy he's upfront. Complaining is upfront complaining please. He's mad and would like his money back. I'm serious hard. I'm gonna bring him back here and let you handle it. What are you taking a break look. He's not planning on the. He's labs already mad dangling. It's been a bit slow cody gal scan going. I love the death. He'd been a bitch up planned. His customers like i wish says gossip leads. I bought them out. Every time i giggle to you supposed to do that too har- took jobs that that got speared right there exam eibnet mother and you just turn right around right back on yep flock jacket. It looks just like my comb. Sir exactly look at that. That's nice. I'm yeah oh yeah. She's got saw south says i'll i'll do <hes> <music>. Ashland caps didn't show up on the who they are showing the cap company i would i would like a is that a ball cap or is it caps. Ii pro-gun is cap in your ass ch- you know what i'm saying like. I don't definitely at this show. It's gavin gavin probably caveats what's happened to hearing. All more animals broke where look look at her booth cheese. There's even a little banana hammock mkx over here with something right. I got a big old yeller snake. They're just nights. They don't have oh seven that oh yeah they got a lizard to. That's a it looks like the one that was on the holes. That was killing. 'em and i've read the book in seventh grade. I think or eighth grade wing but these guys <hes> yeah. I love justin harrisburg this guy look at how big he made his boot. I know i love it up like hey. I only fuck smart. This guy looked at these another tight thinking about this blend right here. I dope and i've been following forever. You good with that beautiful good with that the i don't like it's just so beyond i love it. Okay okay. I don't like it. I know i see bulbous as bold. I love it. It is it is what it is as is always being said. When you gonna learn how to draw fingers then you can you can you. I wanna young justin. Two-tone skulls also said he shut that people couldn't hear us like i love those goals. I hate those that blends shit. What the hell is that. We need to remove sued. You didn't know i had to nato connor. Oh right there. She is should look at me that is i think the most goals per person in the world no matter what anyone says. I say really really yeah that is true store like anything. I need to get better with that man. No just be you. That's what makes you you true. <hes> that's true. This is all just twisted my back somehow. I don't know how that happened. Let's see who else we can pick all my god look at that banner do we'll. We'll talk about it. Bruce was talked about a komo leash it there <hes> we have a banner here. Oh my god there is good. Go ahead and describe and i want to hear how you describe so be very descript so first of all. It's a photo of a tattoo that has been very quickly blacked around it so that you can only focus on the tat and not not the <hes> the outer stuff the the skin slightly here take his kid so and then there's a penis. It's just a hard a hard hard cock. <hes> back black ingratiate inviting lewis famous no veins however <hes> certain sizes it is circumcised and some some some puke growth definitely <hes> but it's running shoes it has this in norms and it's running with come shooting out of the top this it is and it's it's a banner and nine is literally the entire banner it runs. The picture is the entire band and i am. Currently you're gonna take a photo. I like it because my brother. He won't hybrid. I was at the show and there was a banner of opinion. We're not talking like an illustration. We're not talking to okay do school. Photograph like tony of our opinion is no. We're talking a eight hundred eighty eight jockey dick a jog. The jogger day like shoes even has little socks. It is <hes> it is quite ballsy to have that as your banner. I wonder if the dick chafes too. I don't know but that is that is hey. I mean there's a tattoo show so that goes back to. I think you need to buy otherwise. I bet you they sell so many of them. Listen i got that's also yeah well. I wouldn't take him as a shot. I wouldn't kick him as a shy guy. No it's perfectly fine. Though i think thing it is fantastic on the case with my home my god it's fun night but now it's great. That's your spaces. We can do what you won't exactly what we're going to discuss this because i think i'm going to have to talk you into buying that with your brother since they say he's your brother yeah. He also wears new balances and belt jeans. I don't think this man's going to. I don't think he's going to jump out for the run car. I'm just like i'm just saying you know but that's awesome. Honestly <hes> i. I like the the yellow just lying. We're illustration. Do you think he should make that the banner it'd be better like have the banner just black with the home hunt the yellow running. I gotta do this radio. Silence real quick. What's this this. They just said that yup. I don't add it showed. No no no no don't add it so i'm not saying that was a total hodel moved to mike mike ponant in. We're what i've got to go back. There real quick 'cause i got a hundred percent. It could take my breath. That was bad. Oh knows right. <hes> i then a guy. We're going to go get devon beer. <hes> what time is it oh shit bro with you went over but i got back act eleven and his leg on my gosh perfect perfect digit. It's amazing <hes> we'll go over here. We'll let you get you beer and <hes> excuse us sorry. This has been fun. It's fun <hes>. I also have to sanitize my entire our body yeah you have. You've probably got all kinds of reptile dick juice sub all over you. <hes> appreciate donuts with me. Did i appreciate you man. We're definitely going to do it again. Hold on. Let's talk about your banner okay. Since we're here scana new i think i did it like i'm shit. That's it's actually kinda cold months ago. You did that on the app yes so i drew it. <hes> dislike a super sketched. It's just like i always do and then i was going to have just the sketch i get super sketchy and then i think you know tattoo ours will dig it and then people aren't gonna really understand yeah and i needed something that looked more like what i tattoo now. Now the colors and shana alexander william collars. It's makes ext thinks sparking over yeah. I guess i am back painting now a weird yeah. Did you feel the need to put that on there because some other ask you right so this is this. This is amazing so when you got here tell me that was not yeah. What do you mean. When did you put that on so i i drew it and then i put the black shaded and then i painted this much and then i wrote weird eyeball and the whole thing was exactly what you just said my roommate goes. Why did you write that on. I said the amount of times i put shit out at shows shows and people will stop me tattoo and what is always thought if i can't figure out what it it must be for me. I was like you know what i'm made. Fuck this painting of but i'm writing weird i on the top of this motherfucker yeah it is. It's a it's. It's it's an oddball from a. I'm going to call it a rep till oh yeah like some sort of like reptilian monster. Maybe it also has a mushroom look to it <hes> and then i just love the fact that you you know what we're fucking novel and this hi. This is kinda funny. You're though i'm pretty sure i've all one word. I don't even know but it doesn't matter. That's your shit. You not exactly right <hes> yeah. I'll fucking love this year but there is something this mushroom yet. Will this nature yeah are are you. Are you doing hallucinogenic drugs and and you haven't told me about it may or may not i will say i will say i find acid an amazing drug that you can use to help with depression and other things like that obviously needs to be used like you're not fucking. I can do it every day and shit but that's my that's my p._s._a. I think we need to get off crazy hard drugs and opiates and just fucking gift. Give people acid in mushroom. Mushrooms are dope for fun but acid man like that kind of resets you in like i think every six months to take aspirin every prescription every six us. You heard it here for. I post doctor but seriously if you're in something and you're not feeling good. Take one tab. It ain't gonna kill ya. It ain't gonna kill you and you might have like we had put a number on it. I'm not gonna yeah i can say. A couple of saturdays is really okay. I i will say that is the strongest ash and after i the man that ended up yes because that's what's funny with these men on like this one actually it was like a a little doodle pad so i just read through it but most of these trauma and then paint them and after all maybe i should i've gotta would match at burn zip recruiter riches don't. I don't think i'm going to really match burn burn. My hand is right but anyway you know i love this shit and y'all give i'd avenue a damn pollen checks. What is what is what is that. I just forgot got to price price. Price sticker with nothing is free got you mccollum yard sales sticker yard sales but i love the fact that you took the time one two two and they're all spread. I individually tries to one eighty bucks instead of just going aw all eighty and <hes> this one. Here's ten and this one offer spit something that it's new and make me an offer bro. You know what i needed to have enough room should have you. You should have enough room. I'm sorry bro. You left it up yeah. I'm gonna go ahead and <hes> let's see here. I'm on. We're going to do it like that. We're going to like tom vast right there. Let's see what happens. We're we're down south. We're gonna view likes to somebody. That would legit <hes> no. You'll see i guarantee you. Somebody will come by and looking at best offer about they. Give you five dollars for that right but they'll say like yum hooking you up. I've <hes> five dollars right there for that. How did what i'll get five four. No names like dan. That's plastic. That's ed high-quality <hes> old. Ask y'all fuck it. Give devon a damn follow. It's at devon coli d. v. i. n. c. o. l. iraq doc. I would've let him do that right there but i think he just took a tablet. <hes> and that's also his g mail devon kelly at g mail. If you wanna fuck and look at his shit and make the form and get some stuff done or <hes> this artwork man look as artwork by ship this kermit the frog on them yeah and he's he's gonna big fucking tommy chong j you know but i do also p._s._a. Power or marijuana man it's good shit dude no more opiates marijuana and acid better. Take away from this road. I is as long as it's working for you. You and <hes> and you're happy with it. I'm i'm all about it and what is happening over there. There's like again. I just get sidetracked contract with things. I'm sorry now. I don't know what's happening. I think has been going on next to us for a while okay she. She just came over picked up a gun and is walking away with low transactions of any kind of money and that's an ak ak that is an ak and she's just there. You go by taking your gun but he's there. He saw her but she's not been working anyway. <hes> again appreciate you and <hes> we're definitely gonna do this again because we'll we'll break into some some older stories. Hell you laughing. Actually you know what i would like to do with you on acid. Let's do it dude anytime you in boston. It'd be fucking amazing. My sister lives up there it. Actually i got a trip coming up probably july do i'll be i. I'm the only time i won't be there is a lot no no but i'm in tahoe for that show but if it's not during that show tahoe but you don't do acid anywhere other than boston i would do as a group we might be. My buddies. Brother lives out there all right. We're going to make this happen but i would love it in boston because my backyard as i sit down and it's your covers yeah. We'll throw horseshoes. Chill my cat author. Voices of men on asam point trying to hit the chimney. That's that's a good point. That's a good apply but we're we're definitely going to do something and do this. At the moment i'm gonna sneak away and crystal doesn't see me right so i'm gonna have talked to her later but i don't talk to her at crystal. I love you death sneaking away way <hes> man but i love you brother. I love you too man. I love you watch. That doesn't tell time does tell time to learn how to read these. That's a that's a dope forty. Five degree angle daughter is <hes> twenty four and she cannot read of a clogged with hands yeah. She came to tell you. Don't need them things anymore but you know i'm i'm just that's a whole nother topic. I get on that. We'll get we'll get on that laws on that. 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Entrepreneurship vs Working for the Man #272

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Entrepreneurship vs Working for the Man #272

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So right off the bat, you hear that title you here we're going to talk about and you know which which case you fall into you at least currently, you are either working for the main or you're working for yourself. We're not gonNA say that one is necessarily better than the other but there are a lot of different factors a lot of different things to consider, and that's what this episode about me and we talk about entrepreneurship a good deal We're GONNA, make sure that we address. This one as fairly as possible I am excited to talk about this with you. My friend Yemen should be a good topic and it's something that that weighs on a lot of people's minds I think in particular right. Now, kind of some of the uncertainty in the job market it's like well, and also a lot of small businesses that have had a difficult time lately. So yeah entrepreneurship sounds great in a Lotta ways and it is great in a Lotta ways, but there are a lot of. Having a tough time there are also a lot of people in a traditional career that may be a found themselves stuck. So yeah, there is a lot to cover on today's episode should be a good one. Yeah. One of the things you deal with when you are an entrepreneur is your prince or not necessarily working the way you want it to. You have to beat it in this mission office space style you and I. We have a little printer down here in the studio that we use the pronoun outlines out some notes for our episodes and over the past maybe two or three weeks it said warning low toner and we keep side I in the printer like really like there's actual low toner I mean it's it looks really good that it's still black paper they're the ink is, and until just recently I went to go hit prints and it said replace toner Like literally, you're not allowed to print until you do it. It was fine and then all of a sudden the next time I try to print on it it said, nope, can't do it replace your toner and you we didn't like that and so I called printers bluff I, went online and figured out what's going on with printer here and I found out man that there is a setting that you can go to all this printer. This is a brother printer and you can go down to settings, go to replace toner and you select continue instead of stop and basically the the printers programmed to stop after a certain number of uses even if there is still toner. Cartridge and so man, this is kind of ridiculous right? Because it's such a small barrier to figure this out. I think probably a lot of people maybe who are listening know this but at the same time, maybe especially, if you are working for the man, you are in an office and it says replaced toner you're probably okay. Just open it, pull it out throwing the trash and you're spending money on a brand new thing of toner when you don't necessarily need it. Yeah. It makes me think of using that last little bit of toothpaste. And the other something just gratifying about using all of of what's in there and Yeah. With the with the printer in particular knowing that there's a quick bypass in order to I. Mean I don't know how many extra pages of printing we're getting out of there. Maybe one, hundred, hundred, fifty of those a week ago. Now that you've we've continued printing since then but we'll see how long it. Actually last man it might be a while. Yeah. Yeah. So I love that any any way we can get the full usage of the thing that we bought and not throw it away prematurely is good in my book. Also back in two to sixty six, we talked about planned obsolescence that we specifically talked about printers. I feel like this is such a clear way that companies out there like make sure. Let's make sure the quality of your printing remains notch and you're gonNA WANNA pull that cartridge. You WanNa pull that toner out before it's completely gone but man, this is one area. That you and I we do not care if it's top notch right toner is not our craft beer acquitted. Yeah and it's our way to fight back against some of that plane crash lessons right? Like that Toner Carter's is not obsolete yet, but we will use it until it actually is. Yes. So that's something if you're out there and you've never heard of this before, just go whatever model number you have on your printer and if You've been victim to this practice. You can go in there and figure out how to extend the life of your toner. Are Malice get onto the beer that we're having on the show today this one's called realities and it's a triple. Brewed with honey and it's a collaboration between dissolve and good word brewing company. Good word close to us in Atlanta and dissolve is up in north. Carolina that's right. Man this one's got some crazy can are going on. We can talk about it as well as the way beer tastes do that at the end of the episode but I mean, let's get to the topic at hand the endless. Let's do it. We're talking about entrepreneurship versus working for the man and I guess one of the questions that a lot of people have especially as you're maturing in. Your career is, should you work for the man or should you work for yourself which one is going to be better for you over the long haul and there are a lot of things to consider when you're asking yourself that question and there's also not necessarily a one size fits all answer. It's not like everybody fits into to the same categories and so there are a lot of things to consider. There are meaningful trade offs depending on the choice you make too. So we're going to try to cover some of the important things that you should think through. When you're trying to decide whether or not you should be starting your own business or whether you're better off in the traditional working world as an employee of someone else's business and this question feels I think even more relevant Mac given the circumstances we find ourselves in with some people being furloughed from a business or Lego completely industry's kind of in turmoil certain sectors are doing incredibly well other sectors of the economy are suffering tremendously. So in this time of immense change, hopefully, this episode can help you think through what you want your future to look like in. Regards to work whether that's working for yourself or working for the man. Yeah. Let's go ahead I in a clear up some misconceptions you know feel like entrepreneurship It's kind of been put up on a pedestal in our society. We hear a lot about startups successes and Unicorn companies that sore two, billion dollar valuations but the stories men are obviously the exception they are not the rule most people they don't write about their massive failure. So we tend to have a view of entrepreneurship that doesn't quite a line with reality right and then at the same time to. Even, guilty of that to a certain extent here on the show listeners will often hear us talking about ramping up your side. GIG INTO A full-fledged business. But taking the entrepeneurship route doesn't come without its risks and its hardships. It's not for everyone and maybe more folks should stick with the traditional job you know. So let's go ahead and dig in and discuss the benefits the trade offs and more of each of these routes. Let's let's do it. All right. So yeah, there are a few things to consider kind of these bigger overarching. Things before we get into the specific trait offset, you're gonNA, make depending on which route you go, and one of the first things to consider is that not everyone has this option not everyone has the ability to choose whether they want to become an entrepreneur whether they want to work for somebody else some folks are just happy to be working at all right now completely completely and yeah. So we understand he's in particular given the current state of things and the economy. A lot of folks don't necessarily have a choice that they can make. And starting business often takes time and some resources at your disposal at the same time though Matt and I would encourage you to go back and take a listen to episode two forty-seven with Alan Donnegan because you can start a business for zero dollars or close to it, and I think that episode was really helpful to to see things in a new light. We often think that starting a business requires a lot of resources and a lot of money up front, and that's not always the case. There are some businesses that came get started. With the little elbow grease in the next to nothing to money. Yeah and another consideration is your age right? How old are you The average age of first-time entrepreneur is between thirty nine and forty two depending on what study you're looking at The entrepreneurs that feel most often not are in their twenties nets often because of a lack of experience and knowledge, we learn a lot through working for the man you know at least for a period of time. So that's an argument for working in nine to five, but on the flip. Side when you're young, you have less to lose you have fewer resources, abilities and others counting on you. Especially, if you don't have a family yet in your expenses are minimal it can be a great time to to run with that dream that you have into build your own business I know when Kate and I started our company Companyman we were in our twenties we had zero debt, and so for us man that was one of our motivators that was one of the things we kind of kept going back to if not now. When you know like there's GonNa be no better time than than right now for us to pursue something like this. Yeah. I if you have a mortgage and multiple children and all these other things on the table that you have to provide for it becomes a riskier proposition and so yeah, the there's that kind of dual side of way of looking at things of, is it easier to start later in life or is it easier to start earlier and and I? Think it's an interesting thing to consider it's also important. Ask yourself what's Your temperament some people are just wired to do their own thing while others lack the risk taking ability and some people just work better in a group setting and Matt. I'm one of those people, right so I don't think I ever would have started a solo business if it meant me going out on my own and developing something solo, it's just not going to do very well because I work better in a group context starting a podcast with best buddy though that was a different proposition I'm like, okay cool. I can do that we. Can build this at least one other person. Okay. Exactly. As a team and I think that is something that you need to keep in mind if you're the person that's easily defeated doesn't necessarily work well solo than starting a Solo business becoming an entrepreneur alone is probably not best for you gotTa know. Yourself. Yes. They're gonNA know what skills and knowledge you possess man you know if you're looking to to take the entrepreneur path, then you're likely going to need to have or be willing to acquire right a certain level of business acumen. True of a lot of our photographer of our creative friends, they love the creative part of working themselves, and doing something artistic but developing the sales and the administration side of things can also come a little bit more. Slowly you know maybe with a lot of difficult learning moments in. So that's definitely something to keep in mind as well. Yeah. You might be a great artist. Great offer a great baker, but you gotta realize there's a couple of the things you're. Going to need to learn at the same time baking awesome cookies is a great first step, but then you'd have to develop that business acumen at the same time, and obviously with a more traditional job, it's easier to have a very specialized skill where you can focus on the things you're good at it like if you bake cookies working in a bakery, you don't have to worry about the business side and then you can leave it to your employer to handle the. Client services payroll insurance basically all the things that might be nightmare for others. The things you might want to completely avoid. There's nothing wrong with either of these approaches, but it will affect the type of work that's required of you, and that's important to know before you launch a business just because you're great at a particular skill doesn't necessarily mean have what it takes to become an entrepreneur that you really even necessarily want to go down that path. Yeah. All right. Man So. 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You make a decision before you decide which ones right for you and Matt obviously the number. One thing that people. are going to want to consider is what kind of income can you make being an entrepreneur versus working for the man at the top of the list of big factor? It is. It is that that's going to, of course, influence people in the direction they go in a day job will give you a steadier paycheck most folks who have a nine to five might not realize how great this is but it's pretty amazing thing to know that you're going to be receiving. Certain amount in every paycheck every single two weeks or at the end of every month however you get paid but also there are limits to that you're only getting paid as much as your employer is willing to pay raises are typically more limited. When you're working in a nine to five context I, know my races that could amash inflation a little bit. Yeah. So not really getting a raise essentially in my last fifteen years of being employed for the man it's been. Like an annual conversation words like, yeah. The the Max we can give you a two percent raise this year, but you've been working so well that. I think we can you the two percent and I feel bad for anybody who's like you haven't been working out. Great. So you get the half a percent race, but it'd be terrible but that's like totally normal in the corporate context these days. especially with a lot of larger employers. So it's not that you can't negotiate It's not that you can't try to move up in the company and we've discussed some of those things before on the show but the earning potential upside is often far more limited in the corporate context and it is if you choose the entrepreneurial route. Yeah. Conversely starting your own thing is It's more of a an eat what you kill approach right the. Earning potential, there is limited only to what your your industry would allow now your company and as well to the time and effort that you are willing to put into it. You know the sky is essentially the limit in many ways to the income that you can produce when you own and run your own business but you know to man one of the biggest downsides to starting your own business that income can be highly irregular in an inconsistent. It can be difficult not only to have the systems in place that You know that ensure that you have a steady paycheck, but additionally, it can be really hard to have enough in reserves to ensure that you get paid every single month versus you know a sort of thing where you get a fat check, you know maybe once every few months. For a lot of folks who are used to getting that paycheck every two weeks or once a month this can be a pretty big shock. Yeah. That's a great point man I think especially if someone is deciding to move into. An entrepreneurial role quitting their day job and starting their own business they really do need to think about having more money in the bank so that they can weather some of those storms because it is gonNA be different right? You're you're inconsistent pay is a hard thing for a lot of people who are used to working in a corporate context. You getting paid every two weeks to kind of figure out and get accustomed to and who may not be used to managing. Their. Personal finances very well, right. They're just counting on sort of like that trickle of money every two weeks. It might be a little more difficult to to get behind. Okay. What are what are the next three months of living like not alone it's hard to do that when you're not very good at managing two weeks at a that's a good point. Yeah. So Matt You you kind of touched on this just now to another really important consideration when you're deciding which. Route works best for you is the time and balance side of the Equation Day jobs I think in a lot of ways are easier than taking the entrepreneurial route. A fulltime day job often allows you to check out after forty hours of work each week. That's not always the case of course but but it is for a lot of jobs nights and weekends are likely yours to us how you'd like in many nine to five contacts plus a lot of jobs you've. Got A. Two to four weeks of vacation a decent lifestyle that you can plan pretty well around whereas entrepreneurship can of take over your life you mentioned the you what you kill approach. Yeah and I think because of that sometimes it's hard to shut things down and it's hard to find much balance in in your life because you can let work take over and expand to a as much as you'll get it. Yeah. Definitely able to grow to fit that fishbowl you know. That that Goldfish that's in there and man I often refer back to when Kate and I started her own company. But we one hundred percent fell victim to this right here man like I swear the first four or five years folks would ask. How the business was going and what we would say is like I was going great but it wasn't until after that that we were able to kind of look back a little bit and what we realized is was that the business sorta runaway train, you know like we felt like we were constantly trying to catch up to it versus US leading and guiding were the business went and that's because we were. Excited about it, and that's great to be excited about it. But at the same time, it truly can kind of dominate your life man another consideration you know you mentioned how like salary is probably one of the top things to consider when you're considering entrepreneurship or working in a traditional nine to five. But if that's I then a very close second are the benefits that you receive from working a nine five. If you go the entrepreneur route health insurance is expensive because you are footing the entire bill. oftentimes I do think this is something that keeps people from going down the path of entrepreneurship a little bit more. There are some routes you can go for this to be you know less of a thorn in your side like does your spouse have health insurance through their work? If so great you know or maybe your income is low enough that you qualify for some meaningful subsidies on the. Healthcare Exchange. That's cool too. But if you are paying full price for healthcare, just know that it's going to be a of money the average annual premiums for a family around twenty thousand dollars and typically when you're employed your employer covers a lot of that. So that's an expense that you're going to be now burdened with a lot of employers covering fifty, sixty, seventy plus percent of the health insurance costs and yeah, it's a big shock when now it's all on your plate easily. Yeah. And you also won't have a company match. You know when it comes to retirement benefits but you do have access to tax advantaged retirement accounts that can allow you to invest a whole lot more as well. With IRA you can invest up to fifty seven thousand dollars every single year in a tax deferred account. That's a little trick that your 401k doesn't half. Yeah 401k nineteen five is your personal contribution limits seems pretty piddly compared to. The separate if you're a baller and you're making tons of money, you've ramped up income like we talked about and you want to investigate portion of it and live modestly a yeah. You can quickly invest a whole lot of money have at it. Yeah Yeah. On the note of benefits obviously if you're employed traditionally, there's the health insurance thing and we talked recently. On the show about some of the great benefits that companies are now offering their employees I feel like companies over the last decade have been offering all sorts of interesting new benefits that creative they are. They are so yeah. PTO to go vote or even volunteered. The polls was was something that is something that it seems like more employers are offering this year in particular google. And also, they're matching twenty, one hundred per student loan debt payments, and other companies are taking student loan debt seriously as well and creating similar incentives, and even just like the small perks the small benefits of free coffee in the break room I don't know that that's something that's on people's minds these days working from home I in many ways low with a couple. Of granola bars there in the break room. Yeah. Yeah. That was nice. Man I. I will say I missed that like I miss going into the break room, grab my coffee as one of those small perks but it felt real legitimate and remember where bosses we can have coffee down here too. But that's a good point began. Let's do it. All right. We're just jeep. We need to make that happen. But yeah, those those are all the kinds of things that employers are getting creative with kind of benefits they're offering, and now if you want these benefits that are up to you, you can pay yourself to go vote I guess but you're GONNA have to be proactive about giving yourself some of these perks just like Matt Ninety to get some coffee here. And cheap. Those are the kind of things that you can incorporate but it's not this benevolent employer essentially providing for you. Yeah. Feels a little bit different when it comes out of your own pocket versus your employer covering the. Bill. Right. One of the things, the degree of autonomy and the ability to to work when how, and where you want the ranks pretty high up on the list as well. You know when it comes to the different reasons that people want to leave their traditional job and strike out on their own. There's also the ability to to not have to deal with all the bureaucracy you know all those tps reports that used to have to file. You don't have to deal with that anymore no silly systems and busy work as well. There's typically less flexibility with the nine to five man although more companies are relaxing their work practices you know working from home has gained some. Real momentum but there's still something to be said for having set hours when you're going to work when no that stuff is going to get done and I almost see that as as kind of like a like a a benefit of traditional nine to five, because you kind of have that accountability essentially, it's like when you go to work out, you have a trainer maybe kind of yelling at you telling you that this is the workout for the day when you are your own boss and you have a lot of flexibility, you've gotTa make sure that you stay pretty self discipline in order to get the work done. That's GONNA pay the bills and It goes back to the temperament thing that right talked about at the beginning you got to be able to set those goals, knock them down. You gotta be a self starter got to be able to motivate yourself to get going in the morning into start crushing those goals in mind i. think what you just about bureaucracy is an important point. I think a lot of people. Especially, if they work in a larger business, they have like creative juices they're not able to expand and in in large part, it feels like it's because it's this bureaucracy that they can't get past and I think that is one of the number. One reason people leave. Corporate America. To start something else. It's like there are all these other things that we talked about their benefits to pursuing an entrepreneurial route starting your own business. But some of it's just a feeling and get out of a place where you feel stock and I think sometimes that that bigger corporate bureaucracy can can make you feel that and just like the itch to get out of there. Yeah. You can feel stifled when you realize that you're sitting there to spinning your tires and nothing is actually nothing is changing and you can see the inefficiencies that you can capitalize on an strike it out on your own i. hear you man got good ideas but nobody's listening. Zach your. Thing. All right. 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What's in your Wallet Capital One NA member FDIC. We are back from the break talking about entrepreneurship or working at traditional job nine to five, four, the man. Joel Real, quick before we dive back into some of these specific factors, we want folks to think through you'll missing that Dolly Parton. Song. Let me hear it working to. Know. I, want to hear if you weren't in the Audio Media Space, right? If you couldn't talk for a living. And I want to eliminate personal finances as well. If you couldn't say maybe you couldn't talk but you could still, right. You still can't sit down with somebody and right out how you're going to help them through with their personal finances If you had to do something completely unrelated right now with with your life. What do you think you do? So my parents always said, I'd make a good used car salesman or lawyer and Yeah. I probably one of those two professions honestly like Steph because they're based in some of the things that I love already in particular the spoken word right I I can just see myself in front of a courtroom arguing for. A defendant or something like that? So I don't know pro- probably something like that. So maybe you'd be a DA. Okay. I would I think I could see myself gravitating and leaning towards like? In. Particular People's homes like spaces and how they use those spaces and different tweaks and changes. You know not necessarily making things nicer. But like how could you change the space to make it? You know work for you better like what are your goals? What are the things that you're trying to accomplish with this home renovation? You know things like that you know we find a lot of gratification, a lot of fulfillment out of personal finance and talking about this and we love hearing from our listeners and how they've been able to. Change their lives, but it's also you see it based on either hearing a voice Mama they mentioned it in a question or if they send us an email but to actually see something physical like something that you've built something that you've created and I enjoy that as well like something that I've made with my hands makes me really happy. This is part of why like when we go to the beach always bring along that shovel that this isn't this isn't like a normal kid beat shovel. This is like a grown man shovel. To The beach I always been like half of the day digging holes in the sand for the kids. Whether it'd be tide pools or rivers or castles or giant moats because I just I like doing that and then I like sitting back and enjoying a beer and seeing what I've created be ask you is what you're going to say this is not something we've talked about before, but it's something I've always had in the back of my mind for me personally at least although as I get older to my body starts hurting and I'm like, Oh, it'd be tough to be a contractor. On the back hard on the knees, you can just be like a design consultant or something like that. Yeah or an architect there you go a little less impactful on the body I. I can totally see you doing that to pressure maybe. Are, let's get to a couple more things you have to consider when you're trying to choose between an entrepreneurial or ninety five route and then we'll get to some practical steps but but another thing that is just a massive importance that you have to consider when you're choosing which direction is better for you is the mission that you're trying to and that. You can potentially accomplish matt feel you're touching on this just before the break but when it comes to entrepreneurship, you get to define exactly what it is you want to spend you're doing what you want to accomplish those ideas that you bring to a meeting that might get shut down they don't get shut down any longer because you're on the business, right? So. Yeah with the traditional job, you might get a degree of personal fulfillment, but the mission of the place you're working may not align with your personal mission as much as you'd like it too. So being able to define, create and pursue the mission that resonates with you I think it's a priceless benefit of being an entrepreneur of creating the exact thing you. Wanted to create and seeing whether it succeeds on the flip side though not everyone knows what their mission would be if they're starting their own company, a lot of folks aren't even sure of what the perfect job looks like for them. As a lot of folks out there who who are thinking I don't know I'm pretty happy with what I'm doing right here. They haven't necessarily look beyond what they're currently doing if they had the option to, and sometimes we have a personal mission that separate from our work mission and we have things that we wanna accomplish in life the we we can essentially get our complete mission fulfillment outside of the nine to five, and that's totally fine too i. just think for some people they want their work to encompass that, and oftentimes it's really hard to accomplish that outside of starting your own. Thing yeah, I. think There are a lot of individuals who kind of take approach where they say, okay. I'm just going to work this job. It makes a lot of money and I WANNA make sure that I'm personally fulfilled in all these other areas in life but I mean personally I like there to be a little more overlap I wanna see my life kind of aligning with my career with how spending eight hours every single day like life's too short. To only find fulfillment in the eight remaining hours outside of sleeping and working, you know like you only have a third of the day left to then find personal fulfillment plus all the other chores that you need to do. Like, there's just lots of life that happens in those eight hours as well. We'll leave a whole lot left with kids in tourists the. Personal fulfillment amount of time that you dwindle can pursue that. Yeah. It it gets cut down to next to nothing I'd say. Job Security. That's something else that's important to cover here it's job security is often considered. I think rock solid when you have a traditional job but I think that is often oversold even in non. Pandemic Times. Your job is never as solid as you think it is but now man people in all sorts of different industries are finding another job either went away altogether or at least for a short period of time, and there's an article in the New, York Times about people in the airline industry you know finally giving up on the prospect of working there for years to come and moving on Many people are now realizing that their job security wasn't quite what they thought it was and they're learning this firsthand. Yeah I think. If I worked in the airline industry, we've got friends in that industry. Matt. They've taken a long furlough or they've left completely. It's something I'd be rethinking right now. Right and these are the kind of questions I'd be asking myself and job security is definitely an interesting thing to bring up entrepreneurship. Well, it obviously doesn't have the steady paycheck of the ninety five we talked about that. You could maybe gained three clients and lose to others in the same month but once you've developed your business a little that job security is actually A Better I think in a lot of ways than our traditional nine to five where you could lose all of your income at once like with without a moment's notice and most importantly being an entrepreneur and calling the shots of your own business instills a sense of creative financial control of your life it. It's basically the opposite of having a victim mentality and so yeah, I think I had like hesitancy towards entrepreneurship for a long period of time towards starting my own business because that idea of losing the job security in the consistency. Of Nine to five was a lip scary to me over the years as I've kind of got my feet wet in entrepreneurial endeavors I realize that it's not nearly as risky as it seems on the surface. Yeah and plus just like that whole mindset shift When you have your business, you're you're in the driver's seat. So in essence I feel like like it builds a certain level of resiliency. So hard times do hit I think entrepreneurs are able to adapt and to pivot a little more quickly than somebody who is used to being. told, exactly. What to do being in a more traditional job? You're used to thinking a little bit more creatively when you do run your own business for sure. So those are some of the different trade offs that we are going to experience you at that folks are going to experience as they're out there debating between you know a nine to five or were they're running their own business but let's talk. Now let's get a little more practical. Let's talk about some of the immediate steps to take when it comes to launching into entrepreneurship, and the first thing that we want to encourage folks to do is just a to dabble a little bit in it. You know make the time to do it on the side test out your your business idea before you take this massive leap. Entrepreneur, you're likely going to be working over forty hours for a while anyway. So kind of get used to it by. A little bit the side before you quit your job completely. Yeah. Man I feel like dabbling massively underrated I dabbled in our friendship before I realized I want to be best friends. You know sure I know you're seeing that as a joke but like that's true though you know like like we are always feeling things out and so often in our minds we think, okay nine to five or entrepreneurship it's one or the other it's either black or white, but that's not the case you're never friends or not friends with somebody. There's a whole continuum of friendship in between best buddies and I hate you. That's true. There is. All. Right. So another the next practical step we would say is important to take If you're considering around is to find a community of people that will support you in it and we talk about this with real estate investing that joining a local real estate investors group can give you the confidence as well as some of the the know how to make a smart decision and to make the Right. Moves when it comes to buying rental properties. So finding that group of like minded folks can help you glean those insights without reinventing the wheel learning it all from scratch by going it alone that group that community can provide the encouragement that you need along with some of the know how yeah. If you WANNA use the marketing language, you can just call your mastermind group people really excited about doing exactly. Along the same lines, you can actually find. When it comes to starting a business score dot org and is a great place to turn. This is an awesome free resource for anyone looking to start a business and get personal health from they mentor who has gone down that path before on their website. There you can. You can find someone locally based on your zip code, but Dacoven. You can even remotely connect with a mentor these days and they make it really easy. You can search by keyword or by Industry, and you can get on there, and even this doesn't have to be a mentor ship are the kind of relationship. where, you exactly what they say it's also great to just to like me here what somebody does have to say just kind of bouncing ideas off of them I see this as a way to kind of combat that temperamental that you mentioned before I. If you find it difficult sometimes to work on your own, having a mentor is a great way not only to to get some insightful wisdom but also to have a friend someone to bounce those ideas off yeah. They can be a great sounding board and the fact you can get a mentor for free is pretty sweet score dot org is. The website by the way and last practical step who say's to develop permanent skills I think that's probably the best advice. We can give Matt because young people likely find themselves not only working for a large number of different companies in their lives, but also working in a bunch of different industries, very, very different from the route that our parents took work is going to be much more fluid for millennials, Jen's ears than it was for our parents. So we'd say look to develop skills that will help you transition. Well, in the future you're working for yourself or for someone else right soft skills. Like humility and leadership heart skills like accounting or learning a second language are great things to learn those are skills that grow you as a person. They're not just work related skill sets. So honing those things and developing in your work career is going to help you whether you go the entrepreneurship route or whether you keep working for the man in a traditional nine to five job. Yeah. I feel like that's the kind of mindset shift that allows us to look longer term versus focusing on like the immediate steps that folks might be tempted to take now in order to earn a quick buck. So Joe we know we've talked about the trade offs of entrepreneurship versus a traditional nine to five. And these are helpful to know before you dive in head first but it's also important to take that plunge right? Maybe it makes me think about the polar bear challenge or whatever the guys that like jump into the middle of the winter. It's like sometimes you gotta have that boldness of spirit too just like. The icy waters and sit there for a minute I, don't often see the guys it's going to. Ended is the freezing cold water you gotta go for exactly. And that's something we would encourage if you feel compelled to own your own business think through what is the worst that can happen even if your business fails, it's going to be a learning experience. You can always start another one down the road, and if you realize that maybe a corporate job is more your speed like what is keeping you from going back you can always go back to corporate America. You've only got one life to live so we would encourage folks to pursue their passions, and if you ever feel like you get a little cold feet, think about the potential regrets I. Know I definitely don't want to reach the end of my wife or my working career wishing I had taken some steps had been a little bit. You know a little more emboldened a little braver. It may at the beginning of the episode we mentioned, Alan? Donnegan when it came to, you know how you don't need a lot of money to start a business or any money at all and so it makes me think of one of his life Mata which was fail fast fail cheap is that we would encourage folks to take that plunge you know don't over think it. Another same time avoid that business debts. We wouldn't want you in that unfortunate position either yeah beginning that startup starting your entrepreneurship career with with very little or preferably no debt I think is great advice, Matt Yeah Good Point. But that was a fun conversation Matt. Let's get back to the beer that we had on the show today. This one is called realities. It's a triple dry hopped honey triple India pale by dissolve brewing and good word brewing and so yeah. But we're thoughts on this beer I really liked it man I will say this is a brewery so dissolve and it's one of those cool spellings where they leave out vowels. DSS LV are but this is one of the newest burris there in Asheville and Kate. Ni- maybe a few weeks ago. Now, we took a little trip to Asheville for the weekend, and this is one of the one of the brewers that we stuck our head in and check out and see what was going on, and this is one of the Beers on draft. So actually got. So this is the second time. I've had this buddy had it on draft there with my lovely wife and I'm glad to share this one but Yeah. So this is a triple dry hopped. And we'll say man, it has a lot of EPA flavor going on on the front end I feel like you can definitely taste maybe some of that honey sweetness going on. But at the same time, Kinda as it mellowed and kind of finished out it kind of ended on that little drier hoppy note those a nice little one, two punch and I'm glad this is the beer that you've got the man. What do you think about this beer specifically what do you think about this artwork? That's the kind of work I put on my wall man. You know that that's that's my style. It's got the little kind of funky folk art vibe going on and the beer was too man i. I actually I think honey if it's put in Ip a and it's well done it can just add to the flavors going on and I thought this one did like I thought the honey it did. Sweetness on the front end and so yeah, just a well-made dry hopped ip with that local honey tossed in their made for just a pleasurable drinking experience say and plus it's good to have a beer. That's got a lot of personality. You know I feel like this is a pretty unique beer, the Ken Arts, really unique the actual breweries super uniquely they've got a pretty cool vibe going on. So We'd recommend for folks that check out this Burri if you are ever up in the Asheville area, no doubt are man that's going to do it for this. Episode for for our listeners if you want the show notes for this episode links to some of the resources that we mentioned, just go to our website at how money dot com. 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The Best Songs of 1999

Rolling Stone Music Now

38:29 min | 2 years ago

The Best Songs of 1999

"Hey I'm Brian. Hi This Rolling Stone Music now I'm in the studio with Britney Spans and going to be talking about rob shifts. I'm blowing list of the top ninety eighty nine songs of nine hundred ninety nine and to prove that as always we're doing. This show live from the Sirius X._M.. Studios ROB is not physically here yet. He is checked in but he'll be here momentarily so just to add a little suspense to the situation but Britney and I we're both alive in one thousand nine thousand nine for any barely look barely not true Halloween on seven six seven yeah totally sent in human being that point. Yes I think nine hundred ninety nine was probably one of the first really formative years of my music listening experience and I'm sure there's a lot of touchstones of that experience on this list and additional songs that you definitely had never heard of at that time and and I didn't hear about the time rob goes deep I find these lists mind-blowing again. Just the way ROB's robs mind works picking up truly obscure album tracks from truly obscure bands and mixing them with the biggest hits of the era and I liked his kind of like and he mentioned it in the intro where it's like there were a couple of songs that technically were released and kind of rebutting in nineteen ninety nine but he knew that they belonged to two thousand are ninety eight or just kind of felt like they belong to a different year to yeah he and I almost got into a fistfight over the idea of that baby. One more time belongs on this list and I'm very literal. I can't in a by that but yeah that's been asked and answered while we wait for him. Let's talk about number one no scrubs and there's one of those things where I was like Oh what's going to be as number one and when I got there it's hard to argue with yeah. That is a pretty great song. I mean in a year of a lot of really the influential pop music. I think that one is is a sign that just keeps coming back in different forms more than any other song from ninety nine just being covered sampled everything we I think it rises to the level of a modern day standard yeah in the sense of people people covering it and I don't know why we just keep coming back to the wizards. Covers album weezer covered it as with a few other things loggers that mixture of hip hop and rb became the sound of Pop music for the century that would follow and I mean just kind of that radio shift to you pop expanding beyond just like what was seen as pop music for so long and kind of shifting into having rap verses on a pop song and like having these girl groups who were really cracking through into the top time like that it really ushered in a lot of what we saw in the early thous I think we're still absorbing the true. Greatness of T._l._C. ruled yeah. He has lend steal my sunshine at number two. Everyone always loved that song. I remember even like the Indy Snobs I knew at the time like just love of that song. I like it okay. There's something about that song that it was the disposable pop song that sort of rock critics and indie snobs really really loved something about it. I think I still slightly not completely down with that agenda but I do enjoy the song very much. It was a very left fields number two pick for I mean very broad pick but it didn't surprise me because I knew of that Tennessee it was that thing you know it was like they're always like that. optimus strain in rocks and they always kind of probably was led by rob was just keep talking about rob like he's not here. Even though he has arrived again proving those live we have rob Sheffield Alot like the new millennium. I'm arriving suddenly and abruptly not necessarily welcoming cave humans the completely with all the welcome in the world. We're talking about steal my sunshine in the fact that Britney was surprised to see that number two I wasn't because I knew that it was always a beloved song. Among critics and among you know sort of Indie hipster it was the disposable pop song that that sort of hipsters always loved not to call you that but I just knew that it was more than a disposable always had that critical cachet that went beyond its superficial quality well like so many of the hits of Nineteen Ninety nine it was super experimental super innovative and supermassive and populist at the same time. There was no contradiction in one thousand nine hundred it was and there's a picture of the lead singer looking like I guess it's still from the video looking like how can I phrase this like if you just Google image the phrase Douche from ninety nine and he's wearing those Oakley's which I now remember that I had a pair of maybe not ninety nine ninety six briefly okay. Yes I was hip toss them by ninety nine. This is still however guy nine Bushwick dresses influential fashion temple. I just had to go T- that the whole thing of this completely weird disco sample that turns into this semi semi rap semi rock like all the way tuneless and brilliant nonetheless perfect you can sing along the first time with those quintessential nineteen ninety nine. Those aren't the real lyrics are they which is very common response Radio Real Eric. Let's hear Lens Steal Feel my son China words the heaven said recently on the radio I don't know why would I want to hear that played over earth like a montage of dislike catastrophes of the twenty first century they stole our Sunshine Rob in fact that Lens second album was never released is chief among those catastrophes one of those people who actually has the advanced CD album finishing they just never actually sent out the advance CDs and people like like Oh. Yes len have a new album. I guess the Record Company did not share that enthusiastic sentient so it was never actually released. least it was a time when you can have a smash single and they just wouldn't release your next. We'll have a lot of faith in long-term careers. Yes I'm like now and just the sort of slapped togetherness of it. It's like the first time you saw the video. I heard the song you were totally like. That's totally that dude sister rose singer clearly. It's not a member of the band yeah it's clearly it's not a friend. It's like you just came up with this beat and your little sister sleeping downstairs and you wake up to sing because you want that vibe. vibe right now it's such a perfect sounds very homemade but also papas can be and we're GONNA skip baby one more time because we didn't entire episode about it. No doubt will again free Britney. That's all yes and number four inappropriate segue from baby one more time has slid can't get up and slater Kenny and ninety nine man unbelievable on a roll and it's funny because you know sleater Kinney just released their new single and people like oh my gosh. This doesn't sound anything like their last album have. Did they really lost it and get up. People are having those conversations then like people have always been freaked out by the new things later Kinney's doing whatever it is because it's always different from what they did last time judging by drummer departure. I've I'm afraid the freak out was a little bit more widespread sure if we can universal is a little difficult emotionally to go back to this song but this songs just such a astoundingly loud and emotionally aggressive and open hearted song. It's really kind of a powerhouse. Let's hear a- and I think we could do an entire show on Jay Z and you decays big pimp in which is piloted great sounds of all time and extremely important in the southern New York access that sort of debuted their and little J. No he was passing the torch of one region to another that possibly would never be given back but that's you know and a weird aspect of hip hop at that time is that the division between North and south was so massive and you know like New York radio would not play outcast. It was a thing where the south versus New York effectively was still such a huge thing so hearing big pimping for the first time in like hearing you G K on it was just really revolutionary Utopian so many ways and just like I know we're not even allowed to talk about like bars and medical skills anymore. If Charles was here to turn off my Mike but I'm sorry like there is some absolutely amazing amazing wrapping on that Song. I'm sorry I enjoyed great guitar cells. I enjoy great ramping. Shoot me. Let's hear perhaps not the most lyrically the virtuosic portion of the song but still one of the greatest hip hop beats of all time absolutely yes also one of the most litigated about hip hop beats Leland Court. It's the bleak house of hip hop in this lawsuit will outlive everybody Eddie like who is involved but also yet just the bars that you mentioned completely and sounding so wrong to nineteen ninety nine conventional hip hop ears it was like it was done it was he just trying out what was going to be on the finished record. No that's the the finished record and next I will say this very helpful. Fan made spotify playlist out of your list and I think it's incredible it also is the most jarring mix tape of all time because you were ordering it in the order of greatness. There's not an order of it's not in any way like super jarring to listen to but that's OK does not low low very empathetic ninety nine brands. I think more playlist should have slater Kenny and then big fiona apple his paper bag. It makes all those some better to be jammed up together. I will say it is pretty annoying to say the least looking back people's determination to make a joke at Fiona apple it pissed me off at the time honestly and in retrospect it just seems completely unacceptable and wrong. It's weird that there was so little like considering how huge she was and how famous he wasn't her controversial. She was just little sort of recognition. There was that something this masterful was going on right under everybody's now what well maybe she'd put on a red baseball cap and then encouraged the crowd to tear apart a leading tower people would have appreciated artistry more can have both. It's great artists against each other. Now you're just doing that. He said she's that is the actual he said. Let's your paper bag. If we can and again it came from this album with a long title. Oh it must be terrible was a hopeless listen. I mean I guess what I was getting out with the Red Baseball Cap Imagine Fiona Ontario in that era talking about the Song Carson Daley attempting mm to grapple with this but yeah everybody was so determined to make fun of this record. I was reviewing it for rolling stone and I was so excited before I heard it. I said I've been saving up. All these Fiona jokes. You know like boy. Am I going to have fun. You know like there's going to be about six. This world is bullshit jokes in the league graph alone and it was the thing where you just hear the album and it's like wow everything I had thinking I was going to say about this. Artist is completely wrong already outdated but to go to an actual joke that is still good and R. I P the elephants one of the greatest songs of all time truly love it. It's just like so perfect because there is a linear story happening but there are so many tangents. This just doesn't make sense. 'cause I love going leagues. I'm just like this is just a series of opinions opinions told in the middle of a love story and it's beautiful yes in the middle very like we were talking earlier about the effect of Laker those the real lyrics and twenty years at this song and I'm still like wait. What is the Ruby red slippers doing red slippers a gang of trees zilly wrote a whole bunch of phones even love but now we ain't speaking Michael? J. Fox was Alex Biki poetry. Yes I like Kevin Bacon but I hate footloose. Okay Mu Indefensible defensible move ladies were actually the rap heroes. One week makes more sense just in terms of like references. That's like a linear character study like Georgia peaches grow anyway to mccully Co.. It's five thirty percent of all songs in nineteen. Eighty nine had exactly the same production. Take just one sort of like a slightly dingy sounding path break beat and you're good little lilting acoustic guitar over the top everywhere in every genre also speak as somebody from Boston. I say this with love but hearing such unreconstructed Boston douchebag voice on the radio was so shocking it was like wow people thought marky mark and the funky bunch did not go far enough in terms of repping like and it was like such a beautifully together kind of song like it definitely did not sound like anybody but he planned on it was a good year for Douche bags. I mean let's face it steer peak douchebag. You're absolutely right P. L. F. O. This perfect beautiful Classic Eternal Psalm one to pause for just a minute and talk about the jump a brand new original podcasts from male chimp. 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I like rock bands. I really loved one list to backstreet boys. I want it that way. which is we were saying that no scrubs is kind of a standard and I think I want it? That way is absolutely like a modern day standard. It's a perfect sung absolutely perfect zone. Yes and what are the songs that just presents itself right away as perfectly put together perfectly constituted we'd be hearing forever one of those great songs in the Pantheon of songs that just don't tell you exactly what they want but keeping esteem that they want. There's no specificity in there and you're not entirely sure what they're asking for but you're like yeah sure yeah. Let me get to that. Tell me why it's like. Wait no totally changing the subject like what is it you want that way. I'll tell you why fire fire desire. I'm good up to that point. What are you asking here? Yes it's quite an old fashioned song even for nineteen ninety nine just like a classically constructed it could have been hit in every era except this one. I don't know maybe as a country song I mean let's face it. I think especially for for boy bands songs I think that shifted so much to be much more UPTEMPO for a boy band hit to make it work especially to break them and I think you know prior to that we obviously as like boys to men and new kids on the block able to get a lot of ballots on the radio in the eighties nineties and make that work and I think this is probably one of the last boy band breakthrough songs that is kind of mid tempo ballottee not like super hype like bye bye hi or like what makes you beautiful like. It's much slower than I think. A lot of the two thousands boy bands songs ended up being number eleven very high. I was a big fan of Eve. At this time got a man by Eve yes eve who just released a new song yesterday respect to eve Eve eternal. I totally love this song. Got A man. It's such a perfect perfect sort of sounds like a jumbo primer something the tieger hot topic. What a song also I like get coming right out of eve? Yes something about this to go straight together. The two it's funny because like it seemed in one thousand nine thousand nine like Bikini. Kill and Reicher was something that had happened so it was like really weird that nobody was really prepared for how great this Latigo record was it was very comparable gauzy record where it took these elements of different bands and combine them into something just resistible go to Number Fourteen O._D._B._C. again rest in peace featuring policemen after money. You know I I saw I think that year. I guess it was the next year I saw like Oh. D._B.'s fugitive performance with Wu Tang really ran back to the empty office and posted the news article about it that was where he said he was living on birdseed and stuff and there were fifty cops in the audience and didn't realize that they had a wanted fugitive on stage beautiful and when I call the police for comment they ask basically why didn't make a citizen's arrest and I. I'm not sure that's a reasonable question sir. Anyway <unk> Great Final Years of O._D._B._C. album that he half joked that it should be up for a comedy grammy. which is you know good point? He said he was listening to all these blow. Fly and Richard Pryor tapes you could definitely here like all three of them from the sublimely ridiculous just ridiculous and number fifteen and I respect you rob for putting this on the list. I think you're right but we were talking about. The break. Kid Rock's cowboy. I mean you did the right thing you put it all aside and said this is a great song like Morrissey who he resembles in so many ways that burn me onto my soul. There's a certain separate the artist from the art going on here and with kid rock. It's everything he made us think about himself in cowboy that he was really funny and like into making fun of himself and like really clever and hyper verbal and all these other things that turned out to be completely wrong but this song is just perfect. What if you just like go to it in isolation just a perfect song and also a good preparation for his country teacher? I mean I saw again. Naji members I saw kid rock. Show at Irving Plaza covered it for work and I came up with this guy's really talented that was what am I come away. He played every instrument onstage he wrapped. He's saying covered silence at the time seemed like he was full of promise. It's possible that some of his worst qualities came with fame and riches because that is a thing that happens you know but it's funny that you know on this album there was that big ballad only God knows why that we all thought was like such a brilliant like hilarious parody and when you put out his next time it was like Oh that wasn't a parody that was like what he wanted to do for real for the rest of his career. It's absolutely mind blowing. It's like if my world at the end of it used to became the entire album wait it kind of. Did that's good. Let's again a thing. You don't hear so often. Let's your kid rock's cowboy game. In on my head out West. Women come equipped the Breslin forgot what the flow sound that it will have forgot all right well ingrained into your just like forgot how slow in my mind it wasn't so it didn't sound like I'm kid rock. I'm here to say so much but it kind of sounds a little like that yeah but just a personal trickle in a flow destiny's child fiance's been around a long time a long ties. Someone reported out and I say this with absolutely disrespect. I think it's just an amazing fact that she is in fact technically old enough to be a member of the traveling lobes. I forgot which member but she is the same age as one of the members of so. It's like the way that I just saw that tweet today. Someone said these are the people who could be in the traveling. Wilbur is today like based on age and it was like this insane list it was like Brad Paisley beyond say and like I forgot who would have been a terrible ban but it is true. It's just reporting that A._B.. Age The great E._S._P._N.. Thing where they had the new N._B._A.. Draftees and they presented them with these like nineties artifacts like Oh yeah none of them could recognize destiny's child's Amac one of them was like is this the beyond say sister on how the answers they came up with none of them had any who destiny's child were and it was like wow it doesn't need to be said that beyond said transcended her group but I mean talk about sending cruise yeah that's wild yeah such a perfect album. The writings on the wall and it's like the first couple hits from it did not really sort of represent like what a truly adventurous in astounding record it was so it was spinning off hits for the next two years. It's so weird to go back to it and just hear how sleek it is and how it sounds like an album made by artists who were just like well well into the career like maybe like a second third album already kind of knew we'd been around the block like they're already really really end and it was just like sit so good and part of it is because they were as you know they'd been attempted child stars and really were quite seasoned by that time time and it's weird also to remember extent to which is just another group trying to have hit Scott. Remember backstage their V._M.. As they were hanging out and we interviewed them for MTV and they sang Happy Birthday for one of my colleague given the way beyond say is very rightly retreated. Now is just funny to look back like she was a dad like I talked her. Dad All the time. It was like she was a big source for me. M._T._v. was a different era. We're talking about California station. The name of the song the name of the album like for people who thought they knew lake with the Red Hot Chili peppers were and who thought that they had absolutely no interest in anything this group whatever do just shocking we great like another perfect album every single song every single indication I would even say might be only just like the third best song on there. Uh what are your top two scar tissue otherside this both grady around the world is also very good. Maybe the Sonko fornication porcelain completed road trip in his parallel universe aloe rub also picked out the one unimpeachably genius level lyric. Possibly the Anthony Kiedis ever wrote space. Maybe the final frontier but it's made Nepal in Hollywood basement. That part was remembered but I actually forgot the next line or maybe never really kind realized what you've seen cobaine. Can you hear the spears singing songs off station this station Holy Shit Keita's like like my God. That's like a really that's like an ape plus level. Learn don't degrade the poet. Eh was always interested in like I can Nagasaki and mythology and history you know confide with sly and be the wiser talking about Kaiser Wilhelm versus lightstone like and those were really days for him right. It was again Pretty Stadium Arcadian so yeah it was only this is when they'd had their Dave Navarro period and it's easy to like to sort of write that out of their whole story that Culminates Stadium Arcadian the one single was really good with aeroplane that was dog vomit and you know no no you cannot defend air drying Chili Peppers Sant. That's jam. I really like this. I liked the Navarro here. Okay I withdraw Mike here but clearly like wrong astoundingly wrong. Take why don't we have so much passionate about all we need to do a weekly podcast argue the stadium Arcadian ongoing legacy but also if you watch the aeroplane video now like it's it's classic example of a band who have no idea they're like. We don't know how we got this terrible. How is this happening like their eye shadow? It's like very like yeah. We've been up for a week because we dreaded the idea of making a video for any of these other side video baby one of the best red hot chili peppers videos because they're like in like grand theft auto video game. Keita's has like e Mohair like Pete Wentz here before Pete Wentz was known to the Public Click eyeliner yet another innovation like you watch them on stage at Woodstock Ninety nine when they started playing Jimi Hendrix's fire and it was like Oh wow where is that nearest exit one of the worst song choices of all time. Perhaps yes all time where settlers choices like playing fire when people are handing out candles very bad idea on every level not even my favorite Hendrix song or my favorite cover but that's not even cobaine station station to station that line is an entire song is full of brilliant line. It's just like a perfect song. Also Perfect Guitar Solo to everything about this is just like a perfect song. I'm slapping type thing. I wanted to tell you about the jump A. New Melts him original podcast hosted by Shirley Manson. She sits down with seven and the most influential musicians in the last two decades Nico Case Esperanza spalding big boy Dave one from chromium Corny love Carreno the A._S._A.. Perfume Genius each episode that discussed the song that represents the guests artistic moment of truth in the impact that song had on their careers and their lives new episodes start June twenty-fourth the jump is available on Apple podcasts spotify or wherever you get your podcast <music> number eighteen juvenile back that as up very pro stadium Arcadia in so many ways but this was like manny fresh was so new the whole idea of the New Orleans thing sort of taking over the world old you can hear in this song like they know they're doing it like there's so much excitement the cash money ninety nine thing like very like wow we are really like you can hear the moment we are taking over the world and speaking of people have been around a long time. They'll win on. I think at least two songs on this is list amazing. Imagine going back like you to this song and saying look this guy will be touring with blink one eighty to twenty years from now leaving the door. We'll make headlines by quitting mid set clearly. I'm not sure any of that would surprise me but it's about drake mix of the song one of my favorite drake's songs and the first time I had heard this with after I listened to practice because I thought it was but you get into the tribute to drake so many songs on this one thousand nine hundred nine list ended up being like covered or sampled or reworked worked by drake somehow just amazingly strikes list of the ninety nine best size of nineteen eighty nine years. He spent his whole career giving no yeah he is great taste and taking stuff like that when he hit that may slow for among other things as we know he's a great cured number nineteen. <hes> Mandy Moore Candy was Kinda like the last of it was part of the ninety eight ninety nine initial burst of teen pop and Christine and Britney was kind of like see slipped in there absolutely yeah also like would it really intense song. The Sun is all about the absence of candy. She's not actually eating any candy during the song she's missing you like candy like being deprived of candy is their whole experience with candy. semiotics of this song is so intense and disturbing in so many ways and the sung by like a fourteen year old is billy young <hes> yeah. I remember her exact age but it's funny because this is one of just it's such a great pop songs such a perfect pop song and it just she just got so swallowed by like you had mentioned Christina Brittany like all these other pop heavyweights debut at the same time to the point where I forget that the song came came out in nineteen ninety nine like regularly in a big thing was giving like these innuendo laden songs yeah. He needs these creepiest. How none of this age dwell it's all it's all just really Brian? Is You know who you are. Your love's sweet as candy. I'll be forever yours. Love Always Mandy and she kept that promise dare. I say that's her voice mail to this day. GotTa have a wom mostly correct yes. I wonder if they like what that you know. It's obviously like sort of a wild like effect but I wonder if it was a preset at the time I could find out it'd be interesting to know exactly why it was probably a preset on everyone's keyboard at the time doing the base as on the keyboard of course is one would do bass keyboard rage against the machine sleep now in the fire. They're naming the fourteen ninety two ships like keates naming cobaine station to station the historical death that you could get away with in the lyrics lyrics of a one thousand nine hundred pop song Billy Shakespeare writing a whole bunch of sonnets which he did my history from ninety nine pop songs yes or kid rock like in cowboy like in L._A.. Saying GonNa Find Motown until those to come back home. Some serious like intense Detroit Detroit music history going on in that line and these are the final days of rage against the machine it was they were about to break up the following year who would have guessed and for band that you know like only made an album every few years because I guess like the insane amount of arguing they had to do to even be in the same place but like like battle of Los Angeles in astoundingly perfect album definitely does not sound like an album by band at the end of the highest sort of electronic thing he is number number twenty two the chemical brothers the sunshine underground which is such a great song such a great song such a perfect album. There was a funny take going around the Tako sphere like last week that the chemical brothers AAC Best English group of all time and I was like wow I love like. quit like Brash. Take that is and yet certainly a case can be made but just like astounding how those records sound prophetic they don't just hold up but it's like wow like few years later. The world was full of like mediocre bands trying to sound like you know like these two deejays yeah you point out that this song in particular kind of augured the L._C._d.. soundsystem and the rapture in that that thing which was kind of the next progression from their thing and you know with ninety nine was one of those years that was caught between the past and the future as are all years years really this is all year as every moment we live but ninety nine really was a true pivot. Isn't that pre Y._2. Energy also techno electronic Monica. I think people he went back to calling techno and ninety nine up so many groups made just astoundingly great records because they no longer felt they had to you know like they were confident of like this massive audience so like the chemical brothers instead of making any kind of purity record it kind of like uptight record just made this sort of you know totally bombastic brilliant record well. Let's hear center underground before we move on. It's like directly between revolver and it's the exact midpoint so smooth feel like we've talked out because I had Rob Thomas on the show so we kind of talked about smooth. I like your assertion rub that if there might be more male rockstars if they studied Rob Thomas's way of praising quote female smoothie to very unambiguously worshipful also I just loved that he's still married to the woman he wrote the song about she was Viva Amaury. Hope for us all totally I mean I would say it would be hypocritical not to be but I mean getting by the history of songs and human beings that I like how smooth remains you know like song you constantly hear in. It's constantly a beacon. I just love that so there is that like light ridiculousness is to some of the lyrics like the man it's a hot one from the beginning and it's just like still so quotable and just like such a way to start a song of songs you start with man. It's a hot one Britney challenged all songwriters but yeah you can laugh at in which many people spent years but it is a great beginning to a song because I love the sound like part of an actual conversation. I think there's that secret to great lyric writing and I think I'm going to UN- ironically praise with many things I love from David Brown's oral history of smooth which is so great great and you should check out is the idea that you know Santana so Carlos Santanas so uninterested if songs Qua- songs forgot what it was but some kind of jam and he thought maybe he could just work the instrumental from smooth into the jam and they're like no what if instead of that you had someone sing unhook and write a song or we could do that. I don't know completely completely all the same tim like I think that stuff is just one of the only unambiguous tributes to Clive Davis one of the things that he did that is is just you know. UNAMBIGUOUSLY good. I think is is make supernatural is a purely clive record that is like the absolute best argument you could make for Clive that also like David Oral History of that song like Brittany's oral history of all star these are like must reads in terms of like very true the sheer amount that these musicians in one thousand nine hundred lived in their own worlds Santana all his stuff like his stuff about video games. I'm not even GonNa try to encapsulate all the video game stuff that went into smooth. I was like wow like I thought I knew this man. This hot one is even hotter than I even realized I was merely measuring it in Centigrade and like there's all this Kelvin going yeah if you've ever talked across Santana any attempt to summarize paraphrase when he says to you is often misguided his thought processes are unique. He knew he was is pregnant with a masterpiece those one of the more coherent things yeah wow in the remaining couple of minutes ill. Let's do Dixie chicks goodbye earl what a Song I love a eleven murder Bop Bop and there are another act who look even better in retrospect they were ahead of their time and fierce and unapologetic and always good like they never did. I don't remember anything bad. The dixie chicks ever did the music's awesome yes and their influence is so huge now like like especially like teams like younger songwriters Dixie chicks is where it all comes from. It's really kind of amazing how the moment is totally. Come around to them. Yeah I think we have room for one more and do you WanNa talk about beautiful stranger by Madonna because it's like she continued the Vibe type of Ray of light for this one more song whereas I wish he could have continued it for like five genuinely like I love that album and I feel like it kind of stands alone and I think it could have spawned a whole genre at least for her but beautiful stranger from of course the soundtrack to Austin powers the spy who shagged me. The classic song is a song and she pulled in just enough sixty five to justify Austin powers inclusion yes well in terms of the sixties vibe I mean she comes in colors by love. It's dislike straight up tribute to yea distribute a really great midpoint to between Ray of light music. I think there's kind of that. Don't tell me vibe to it. I totally another absolutely killers like these three of the great trilogy Gee of Madonna's entire career like yet beautiful strangers such a perfect so and I do you WanNa shout out <hes> Cirrhosis who made that was an album. I just kept listening to over and over again that year. I remember playing it late at night at MTV and the twenty ninth four thousand one they're like two people came up and we're like what is that it was just monumentally beautiful music Dick as horrible as they apparently are in interviews and stuff like that. It's just I haven't listened to a long time. I'd like to listen to against such a great album and that's one of the song I don't really have individuals that album is just one like iceberg when singer is back to me <music> anyway so this has been today's Rolling Stone Music now we've gone over just a small tip of the iceberg that is rob Sheffield's fantastic list of love the best songs nine may be to turn to it at some point but thanks to bring Spanos and Rob Sheffield himself for being here. We will be back next week here on Sirius. X._M.'s volume channel one of six at one P._M.. On Friday.

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Red Hot Chili Peppers  Californication

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Red Hot Chili Peppers Californication

"Before you listen to this great next episode of Shit Songs of cried albums a few quick plugs go subscribe to us an eye chains and Google play or follow us on spotify just search for shit songs of great albums. If you like podcast please subscribe Labor of you on. I changed give us some size. Gives your thoughts in the pod and most importantly in your view. Let us know an album. You want us to review if you WANNA ban to chat with us. You can follow us on Instagram. Under the handle at the golden ducks where you can leave an album. You wants to talk about in the comments about posts O'Dwyer diem. We're only doing this for the love of music the order we plays merely snippets of these great albums. So if you like any of the artists all the music discuss go and stream or download. The album's legally purchase them. Support the oddest and the music. And now let's get stock into this week's episode t t w to the to the LT Lt Brilliant well good. I plotted crack. You know what's the crack my speaking of cracks. We are looking for tape and then we will catching up on. Pay Toilet paper resistance. Gas Supply Industry at the moment is corona virus takes hold. I don't know what it is. Man Seems as though there's a global epidemic and pandemic about Varas nevins worried about claiming their US Of all the things to go out stockings this strange. The toilet paper is the one because you you would never want to live without toilet paper. Would you cannot. I mean like back in the day I used to you know during the war and stuff. They used to dig a little old. I have a dumping ground and clean themselves with a bit of grass. Their fingers. I can't imagine anyone ever doing that nowadays. So this all happened in Hong Kong about four weeks ago. Like the the The shopping center aisles were ravaged of a few things One of them was toilet paper. The other one was rice because as the cliche goes the Asians don't love their rice and yet and said it was not so So my my parents sent us fifty rolls of toilet paper from Australia seriously. Seriously we were. We couldn't get in couldn't get on any so they sent the the toilet paper now. I've got ironically enough way too much toilet paper and it's not problem getting the supermarkets here and metal area. It is. Yeah it's just dickey's absolutely ridiculous but goto autumn like as the as the world entering the apocalypse. What are you? What are you grab as a as a safety not safety? But what's your item that you grab out of the House so teepees number one for a lot of people in Australia currently or what's yours. The house like any item right. Yeah not nonperishable perishable I don't see the southern spicy clams and dear now nor the dog every every man woman and child for themselves. I was GONNA say yeah. It's like what did you get on the airline. They say you know You know If basically if the plane goes down women and children I you like Yay. That's definitely going to be startling. Nine hundred miles an online. After you love go on let you go first. I'll be like Oh but when people I'll be ninety five year old woman. What's my go-to would I take take actually a good question? It's it's one of those dinner pie conversations. You know those kind of you know one of those questions I can. I take very good question. Won't you disc and you go three things tyco something or there's a? Yeah what I take. A bullet blanket pragmatic a lot. You know strategy get so cold. I'm a bottle of Scotch would have to be in that. Obviously just to keep you warm at night third autumn. Maybe maybe a Fun. I JUST. I actually die. I think these days if I didn't my family for for a day or two and I wasn't on vacation or wasn't holiday General Maine so I can go without the firing if I'm on holiday and you turn it off digital detox. That's great but if I'm if Maria asked me it's like the Banal like Oh oh graboy finer I'm literally just going out of the unit downstairs putting the and then and then come back in. Yeah I mean it's funny the question you take your phone. That's one item. Would you take a phone charger? Which would be another item very question depending on the usage of the phone and you do have a tendency to let your battery run flat as we've discovered on occasions. When you've got to nudge PAT PODS by forty five minutes to allow you to charge story but but yes. I would say probably a phone and a net for. I guess I'd have to take charge. We have to be in their left with a blanket. Now I suppose yeah phone but then leaving. The House fully clothed say. Don't worry about that right now. I mentioned so I'm taking it. Maybe a little bit granular. And maybe I'm being bits two picky but But I I would say a phone. I'd say a wedding ring but probably a priori wear Aaron that right you know it's not like a B- in a bar nightclub with the boys and taken it off But but yeah I suppose the phone would be the Goto. The phone with particular toilet. Paper is one of those things you take you take you take really take advantage of it like a real like. I love toilet paper. You know what I mean when I do my baseness there's another one little ply for me. It's like well one that she it's like I I it's like I screw it up so much. So that you know if disappear and are getting so much trouble own for scrunch and I think Massimo grungy someone was telling me that that scrunches are at fault in this toilet paper rationing because fold is apparently much more efficient with the tape usage. But I don't buy that man because I have tried voting. A number of one enough thought anymore. I'M GONNA if scrunching is so derelict and so below a lot of people. I'M GONNA try. I've tried him in. And the risk of getting sheet on my fingers is very much much. Toronto scrunches like a fool helmet around my fingers. Yeah you protect. It's like a double layer. Isn't it like an also when you fold as well the angle with which he'd do it? There is much more chance of your regardless of whether you fold or not you think can still go through it. Just it depends on the texture of the shit that you bad right so if you buy one of those like if you've got a big curry the night before and it's it's like a war zone diner. I don't WANNA be. I WANNA be a folder if its woes but if it's one of those ones you have where it's just like and literally you could dinner off your Australia. It's done like he like. You could just use a little bit of air to clean and it says so I have never conformed to that and also I haven't got the time to sit down phone pieces of toilet paper. I'll say I think I mean Hell Hell Hell Hell. Would it take the phone later on his post I also think that folders haven't matured so I think I think everyone starts out as a as a photo because when you're when you're a baby with Alfie are fold the toilet paper and I'm not scrunching his ass but that's because of the source of his office in in compared to the ratio of the paper that I'm using I one sheet of this baby. Wipe his whole ass whereas one she piper is like half of my eyes so the the ratio is is abnormal can actually follow the pace of Tapei wiping off his ass about three times. I go to go in the bin as the future as an adult. If you haven't if you haven't migrated to scrunch you'll be living in a backwards state and just to be clear for all listeners. Yes we are actually talking about the size of a nine month. Old Babies asks if you've got a problem with you bastards so so Yeah I mean that's an interesting. That was one skin completely unscripted. We didn't go into this pod thinking we're going to talk about shit to be fat but that's the beauty of the golden ducks. It does bring coke somehow. Scrunching brings us to this week's pod Gordon. How poured what are we? Thirty eight now. Thirty eight thirty is raining. It we're on we're on route. Fifty fifty is going to be huge. But we're thirty eight now. We've got the Red Hot Chili peppers requested by good friend of the POD Lucky Stewart. He's requested California. -cation came through remember offerings. So that was studious enough to check out. Our audience reviews if they got. If we're going to be nervy or go to anxious trying to figure out what happened. We were going to review from Al Las pawed. Hinton clue they would have found it on our audience requests but Lucky Rhode Review. And he's actually made a mistake on the loss part. He's actually a longtime list. Second request what he also requested. Jeff Buckley's grace and back in the day. That was a single figure. I think at that point. Yep Yep and this is this is this is his second request Plenty of course to get through so we on. We've we've got some wants to Nile in the coming weeks but my I loved listening to this album. I loved listening to this album back when it was released. I love listening to it again. Now it's a fucking belter so is your. What's your relationship with the Chili Peppers? One of these people that sort of a mentioned in passing to a mate yesterday and and he said something which I plan to ask you anyway but obviously this is what what what number is for that full five this is the first the first Self titled Debut in Nineteen Ninety Four and then Freaky Silje then Mo fo party. Then mother's milk which is mother's milk was their fourth album. I with through she onta- after their original Guitarist Hillel. Slovak Had A drug overdose. His ban I mean we'll get sucked into the this band relationship drugs this Banjo. We'd drugs has really influenced not only the released but the personnel and the band fruits. Yanti joined in on any non release mother's milk and then there was their breakthrough album. Blood sugar sex magic which was fifth album with. Ya under the bridge. Probably the most famous on the first came to not peppers on. But I really got to know the Chili peppers with one. Hot Minute now remember. Only one hot minute as a as a tight back in nine hundred five Fra She auntie Had basically lift the ban. I'm saying that with talion accidents. How'd you Sean for Shanty John? Just John for shanty just Jones. John left the band off to being riddled with drugs. Off THE BLOOD SUGAR. Sex Magic concern. Dave Navarro stepped in Dave Navarro. Dave no he's not the Jewish man he's not Chile's he Where he was from Jane's Addiction Right. Yea jumped ship for one minute for not wait. We won Hoffman. But he was on the Indian for one album. Yeah he was but he added a different dynamic to the sign of the irony is for shanty got the flick because he because of his drug drug problems and in Navarro few years got the flick because of his drug problems by which point for shanty was just on the men right just he just he just going cold it clearly try to go cold. Turkey not in work in any. He went into Rehab many out of the period in between kind when he left and rejoined in the late nineties was a pretty dark period of infer phase life but a question. I was going to ask was that you saw some of it. I mean we we you a fan of them back in those early days or were you one of these many fans that talk about the Chili Peppers and when you lie I'm like California -cation that's when I really got into as well I was. I couldn't remember how analyzing this album came. 'cause I I knew him I. I knew right back nearly ninety s One of my one of my brothers was like a a pretty big fan. You Blood Sugar. Sex Magic very very well And then I say I'm. I'm not that big a fan of you. You'RE GONNA see a few times but I'm not I'm not a huge fan of Abu- after say this is this is. I think this is one of their better outcomes when I look at their discography And I like you know you are able to. You're able to really here for shanty on this. And they've got a whole new. They seem to have a whole new energy and vibrancy to them and his impact was really felt an older albums. Fifteen sixteen songs. Yeah it's it is a long album and I think I think from this album. This was like they ever tend to form kind of went away a little bit in my opinion and look walk the Chili Peppers back in ninety one again like we under the bridge. Give it away. Those songs suck my kiss and then when they released one whole minute. Those those affair bright between those four year break and. I don't really think a lot of people that that we're GONNA come back to Macho. They've been releasing albums every year since eighty four and there was a real fun. God it was real. I mean if you describing the chilies before California even towards California News. It was grounded in Funk Rochman. Yeah and then one minute. The completely changed their saying you. Listen to that song and I I really got into the Chili Peppers. In in one minute attract aeroplanes. Probably the song that that call me into seeing that Alabama but it was it was definitely a different sound to blood sugar sex magic and then I mean crazy differences. I think just came into play so Anthony. Kiedis was not a huge Navarro Fan. And I think towards the end I think they eventually recruited Dave Navarro come in and record at one minute after John for shanty went to a common site is if these Italian names was on the use of Italian. It must be Italian. John I I. I'm GonNa tell you right now just So anyway they were there essentially a funk rock band and wrap Katie's lobbed a lot of like talking rap and stuff like that but then Dave Navarro comes in. He's started his life heavy Meadow Progressive Rock Psychedelia completely different style and Anthony. Katie's has said that the songs were written in a fos lower right where he would generally write the lyrics he give them to to John and John and come back and he said joyner being a true anomaly when it comes to songwriting. I just figured that was how guitar players were that. You showed them your lyrics and sang a little bit on the next thing. You knew you had song. That didn't happen right off the bat with Dave. I think really When the Bandini Nancy Ninety eight the Navarro had left Judah craft differences? Everyone kind of agreed that the that the decision was mutual. I didn't think Navarra a natural fit for the Red Hot Chili peppers brand as a as a banned from everything I read. They're on the verge of breaking up and then flee whenever visited Joining in his drug Rehab Center asteroid joined the band and joined for shanty was a huge Chili peppers fan. He he actually started out as a messy fan boy and he he started sobbing And said he'd love to come back and join then they went into into shooter. recorded Calif- occasion of the course of a year and When it was released I think it kind of broke new ground for them it. It's I think blood sugar. Sex Magic was the grant. Was the album that broke them. But in my opinion Calif- occasion is the one that took the mainstream. It's you know. I think it's still there haw selling album they want a number grammy's for it It's a very simple Ek. Century can collect stall to what they were. There's a lot less rap on this song on. This album is a Lotta songs. There's a thing throw four songs with Katie. Still wrapping through them but even the guitar playing is still it's less funk than it was I think flay at one point was worried about. He's rolling the band during the recording. This album by I love this album and this album for me is the start of a three album. Odyssey where you got California -cation released in Naughty Alan. You didn't bother wireless threes later in two thousand and two which goes from phenomenal songs on it and then you have a stadium. Acadian relation two thousand six and that A few a few weeks back in. Yeah maybe doing it. But I think stadium academies the Chili Peppers Watt Album. It's A. It's a double saw today album. Yeah this is a double album. Listen this filler on there. But it's just a really rock and cool album and a dining against it a lot of credit for me personally. I love studying Katie. It's one of my favorite albums and and Distri story three of them period. That went on between nine on in two thousand and six Kinda makes him to and to be fair it since then. I haven't really isn't that much. The two thousand eleven they released on with you and three thousand sixteen. They released the getaway and I couldn't name a song off either of those two albums but I wouldn't be able to But but this album for me is just phenomenal. In fact I think early this she. It was announcer so I joined. I should say left the band Yeah I used when in was going to do his own thing and it was just. It's just been announced it during the last month to he's GonNa come back and join the Chili's sire I think he. He's a huge part of this band. not a founding member but he's corn integral to the success. Said he's a is. I can confirm he's author talion descent while you rub it on for four hours. I did Google that but it's interesting. 'cause YOU KINDA gotta go back right and you touched on it somewhat. I mean the whole Drinking Drugs and partying the Chili peppers. And and you know. Sort of nearly nine teams Blood sugar sex magic. There was a lot of friction in abandoned for Shanty. Was All for one and obviously kisses a highly publicized. A heroin addict. And and there's a. There's quite a an infamous moment where they play under the bridge on on. Snl One night. And for whatever reason for shanty and Keates I think a data fooling out backstage or they got a good point in their relationship so for shanty intentionally play different chords to the opening of under the bridge which fucked up the rest of the band in particular Keates and and you can watch this moment on youtube and it's like proper role could stop and I. It wasn't long after that. That they disbanded. But what's interesting here is. An flea maintained a relationship with for shanty over the years even in the height of his somewhat Tumultuous Drug Addiction. And you know on a few occasions That recorded a Not not video but signed recordings of Shanti playing places like the Viper Room. He was famously with River Phoenix. The the night that he died as was flay and therefore coatings have been playing over the years and just completely off his head right and apparently Did a Gig nearly ninety s and the the the Chili peppers and sort of reconnected. With him at this point in fleet convinced. Keates and At Chad Chad Smith is not yet To to go in to go watch him and it was complete the an you know you sort of nurse in through getting clean and stuff and they got the group back together But it's it's interesting the way. The keys talks about for shanty in his autobiography which is called Scott Tissue. It's it's he says nothing but good things about him right. He says that he's so instrumental to the sound. No Pun intended of the Chili peppers and his his value is valuable. Contributions should never be undermined and stuff. So you know once he claimed he has he been back and forth a couple of times but they've remained. You know a unit ever since and this was definitely. Yeah I mean I. I think that you know commercially. This is that most successful critically. It's up there as well You know parents pound in terms of Choon off to chew off to choose and I think it's absolutely up there as well. I know By the way I know stadium Arcadia matter that much of what they've done in the last ten fifteen years. I sold them in Hong Kong. Actually they came to Hong Kong about eight years ago. I think food you well-connected aside show here and I was a bit indifferent about the whole thing. They were supported by the Mars. Volta who I love right. So the Mars Volta so of didn't blow him off the stage but that was quite special suppo- act and and the Chili peppers came on. And you know they were great and everything and the the the musicianship was brilliant and Nicole. Madre was great and the tunes with that but they they played a few new songs off. Then you are than I just didn't do anything really stuff they did they did. They left that like a couple of key songs under the bridge in Scottish. You can you know Some of the Shit. You remember that you mentioned I forget but but yeah I I. I just remember walking out with some hardcore Chili peppers fans. Who couldn't believe that it entailed play this song? Oh that song But they just did I really just from getting a little bit bored one. One thing. One thing that really stuck with me always have good a bassist fleas. I mean you know like his his base risk like you know quite often not carry a song and I felt I remember thinking I felt that it had more impact. He had more impact lives semi than he did on record like I listened to the music. I I it. His base resonated. More with me live than it did on the record so when I when I went back to California -cation I was going to take all of that stuff in born flee. We should strategy early last week. Australia will bless him sat. You are cracking through. Then because we've got about four hundred songs to get through. Its decent was contract on his fifteen. Isn't it fifteen songs fifteen songs? Yeah so So the first thing that I mean. The first thing is struck me struck me about this album. When I listened to it years ago was how strong funnily enough the first half of it is. I know we've had this discussion. We've gotten both on this but I did. I did message you towards the end of last week and say this is a classic example. Obviously of an album. That's got to a stronger. I have I would say I would say for me. The first I'll be the first nine or ten songs out of the fifteen or she really strong in it plateaus a bit but some but yet track one is around the world you have thoughts on around the world absolutely bang. It's great guitar it's It's bills like old school. Katie's when he has the you know the rap wax gang on. I think it's really great guitar by that Linda to really well different sections of the song I'll think it's it. It moves along well in changes well and I think a- actually starts off with an absolute bank. Yeah I have to say it's a great openness. It's one of my favorite Chili. Pepper Song It's IT'S I. It's Kinda crossing Kita six. It's a real statement for them. Bear in mind the first time the lineup together for four or five years and really kind of says combat to me very calm opener as well. We should say well this is produced by Rick. Rubin him over there and talked about basically he wants to. Will Beastie Boys? Yeah so So yes so for me. It's a really solid i. It's got a great vibe. Two Great Guitars Brilliant Pace. Everything about is packaged around the musicians themselves and I feel like they will get a little equal equal measure equal contribution. I feel like if if our release an album. Now as in Taytay odd want Rick Rubin to present to produce a deer. Reckon the if you pitched it to do it I reckon are. We've only got a podcast. Rick Yep it's forty four was eighty four No I think that when when we came to appreciate a recruitment when we did basic boys Lawson's too ill and he was. He's an eccentric dude. yes sorry A throwing led Zeppelin with with rap. Was just fucking cool. And then seeing him work. He's magic on blood. Sugar sex magic w magic but then also coming back in doing California and the thereafter. Just an article man. I was reading a initially. Gruber wasn't their first choice writer. Historically they'd recorded with him but they apparently approached David Bowie to to produce this album and Bowie I didn't know what bobby was doing. In busy being brilliant I guess but said they went back to They went back to Rueben and and cracked on his so trot one around the world a great opening to parallel parallel universe. The LANGEN I I'm GonNa Banging for the furthest songs Conversation I think Olson I. It's a it's a ballot food chilies. It's the slowest song And then it takes a really harsh vocal aspect in the chorus. Doesn't this is the first song or feel like they move away from old school chilies that doesn't contain the funk aren't baselines it it's it's much more modern chilies John Fashanu Lens himself backing vocals. A lot in in in a lot of these tracks amazing tracked towards the end weighs backing audio this soldier but I think this is really the first song that referencing drugs and out of the songs on California. There's probably a thirteen referencing drugs. In some way yes but when he sang crossed Massad Wanderer California King Saud Wandering California King of by two snakes That they have in in California and so when you snakes say with Vietnamese painting that he's full of poison why drugs and then at the very end of the song it kind of sounds like A. He's pulling off a ball or something really something I don't know I don't know what it is but that that's what it sounds like and I think jogs drugs have been central to the chilies Detrimentally and brilliantly artistically. I think you know some the lyrics that Katie's has on this On this album of normal some of them that will get into a bit childish or mature a bit like a culture lively struggling with them a little bit but for me parallel universes a abandoned song. It's it's brilliant And it's it's kind of preparing you for for what's GonNa come with drug where it is. It's a good. It's a good cleanse. That are what's coming out. I think it is a great song. I HAVE FLEAS BASELINE. Grease is is fantastic as well and again it it does. It's his his voice. Changes the tonality of voice changes throughout rice assaults off a little bit more somber and lighter and embody end of it. It's quite it's quite roar exposed and rocky and I think that that's that's a nice power level if I can use the word Slip Threat Song and kind of it kind of changes direction somewhat and. Yeah I really like. I realize this song. A coastal mayor right. We're launching into Scott issue which which I'm guessing I know what you're gonNA say about this. But Dave what do you think Scott Issue Bang? Bang this is the first song off the album and it was there. It was one of the singles off the album. I think this this is the song that won them. A grammy in two thousand for best rock song and It's a IT'S A. It's a brilliant song and again. It's it's not classy Chili's so As a as a single. It's not one that is a. Detroit FAN coming out of one hot minute you would expect them to have Anti Katie's described as one of his happiest home saying it was a playful happy to be a lot. Phoenix rising from the ashes. Awed around with my hand he'll type recorder in with that. Music in the background started singing the entire song and again. Scott shoe very comparison. I think a lot probably song is about Johnson's Win for seventy two RAHAB. He had He had a lot of scars and marks Mommy's heroin addiction and I think this is one of the songs actually written about that Run gone say in verse. Four is Yeah he's referencing. River Phoenix an old friend of the band thawed for drug overdose as well and I think this is just a beautiful well rid and so the opening the opening of scar tissue as always reminded me of dire straits. Romeo and Juliet tonight. Like I don't know if you know this song mcflurry Diet Dire Straits records as well wasn't it that's GonNa say yeah. It is an empire. Cannata went back and listen to Romeo and Juliet yesterday. Just to see if I was going mad and it wasn't as obvious as I thought it thought it thought it was the the the the similarity but it's not far off. But Yeah I is. This was the first thing is probably the first song of this album. I heard when I came out a few mates or in school with sort of really love this album and stuff and this is one of those on repeat songs for awhile Scott Scott issue is a great song. I'll agree with you now and then we're going into other side. This is another single. It's a fucking Banger. And it's it's a buying a the and this This song again like almost three songs in a row. Now referencing drugs in some way shape or form And this this song is a tribute to Hell L. Slovak. Who was one of the founding guitarist and the started Chili's with Anthony Flee and There needs for drama. That was his name for signed was on the first time I was gonNA say I What's his name Damiano? Feel like that's a that's an actor or something but obviously was basically your written some tribute to Hill Slovak Talking about the slot into drug addiction and to song actually gets foss. I walked into drug addiction. As it happens in courts gets allowed a quicker more aggressive than the one before you know indicating that you'll slot into drugs and depression or whatever it is that you end up going into. He's becoming statements. They bring your former white that that other saw that that that overdose almost and looking back in you know they all suffered from and drug addiction. Anthony Katie's John Fashanu say Hillel Slovak and poor. This song could be from the point of view of any of them about slotting into that drug addiction. Yeah I like I like the opening line and It's very distinct and I'm for me not that you can't feel it so much in the first three songs but me. This is where I really felt for shanties contribution and as a song I feel like he covers a multitude of genres. Like it's a bit of punk could almost a bit of rob but a hip hop but a funk? It's it's it's it's anything and everything and it's a really really good song. It's a great sign. Talk Radio Five and and you know you look back on connor the the first three or four songs. You really feel like you've run a marathon right. It's quite it comes at you this album you know and and it's quite exhausting three or four songs because it's just so much happening but it's very exciting right it's very UPTEMPO. And and and from other side we leave the track. Fis We shall we play by the Sada. Feel like this is a song a death WanNa play from. Yep play off here we go. This is track for the other side of the Chili peppers album. California -CATION Back a that's coupling occasion side truck and then yes sweet. What do we do track? Five may get on top. Get on this this. This is back old-style chilies and really It was actually created after jam session after jump shot and be listening to public enemy now. The band produced by Rick Rubin Yeah you get on. Get on talk For me this is just a hawk back to ultra chilies at funky. Bass lines Yeah punk rock. I feel like the Chili peppers. As especially if you say album California Sir Funk rock rat wipe that had all the money they they used to be the would alternative. I think when I was growing up you would say that you listen to alternative music and that's kind of transformed it's opened like indie music now and stuff like that. Bid I feel that the Chili's you want your cruising down Malibu in like not mallory like in Hollywood like the beaches of California in Kombi. Van you pull over the sunsetting. You're sitting on top with a couple of studies next year. Yoshikawa sunset and kids are on the beach. Slotting bonfire and it's just like you bang on the and that's that's it man. That's what I feel when I listened to this album. Have you ever owned a Kombi? Never under Kombi Van I. I'd love to whatever I look at Columbia Vans. I think to myself right. I reckon I could push one of them over a man. There's not mainly they know I know. But that's my point right. You know that's my point. I recognise it. Just looks like the source they could push overmanned like like if if if it got too windy they just blow blow away like I say I reckon I could push Kombi banner over me on so if next month. Can you saving Amazon Com Pharmacy? From Kosher we go wicked veins the the the the phrases and cartoons on. But I wouldn't be the same man. I think. You need a specialist tracks Calif- occasion I think if you're gonNA listen to the Chili's on a Kombi van pulled over next to a random beach. That's that's the song to listen to to to count up while that you mentioned California -cation so California -cation trap six Bang Bang. It's a fucking thing. It's it's a three stumper number in places and is a little references drive. This is a real story to reference. Points me talk about cocaine. The Beach Boys. Are We feel like you know? All of their songs in his album says Tom have reference point on it. It really scores. Well I feel like he's the dog side Sir. La Too Hollywood in general and all of these restaurants points linked to that for me. It's a great song you know. I think it fits in nicely in the flow of things to change of pace. And I think he descends really really good on this really very very cool and California. You've already explained Faneuil California. It's awesome it. Brings it down a notch. It's it is. It's the song I wanNA pull over and Morvan sitting on the roof with with my bottom of Milas or something like that and just crack it. Open the team and watch the bud. Light Bud light because we all know that the yen's countering shit but affiliate down a notch and I think I feel like we've covered six tracks already like three and a half maybe four. These six tracks a slow songs. You caught parallel universe scar tissue of the saw in California. And I think that's a real mocked change for the Chili's I think maybe it's maturing as abandoned maturing and I think a lot of bands as they get older stop mellowing out and I feel like for me. I actually really liked the Chili's ballads and slow song. Then then I mean I love hearing their funk funk songs by a really love when I bring it down a notch and familiar song does that and I think you said it's You know I think Haiti's you. This song was brilliant And I originally planned to scrap the songs. They could actually find the music to match his lyrics. And then Anthony encouraged John Fashanu to get credit because he knew that could be dealing with a great song. In and Katie's basically says a shark Calif- occasion to joining love the lyrics and started writing some music but for some reason even there was a perfect song in there. We couldn't find it. We tried ten different arrangements in ten different courses and nothing ever worked or these other songs are pouring out of this. We'd been working for a few weeks. Someone started playing an ultra spas. Santa let nothing. We'd have number four as soon as I heard it anew ZANU song and that that's the and I think this is just a a balanced home but what's interesting is that the band had the approach of lyric writing and then putting music to it. Which is I don't know on that. Generally generally speaking a lot of songs come about because as A. There's a a melody and then it will get lyrics put into it after that. I think I think this is interesting right because I was just about. Why you a Blob? It on like the first five or six songs as you say you know the vast majority of them for four or five four out of six or whatever quite some slow numbers as couldn't figure out like whether the Chili peppers lost a lot of fans with this album. Right because you know what I'm talking to mention it to my mate yesterday mark. He was kind of a bit light Calif- occasionally goes. Yeah that's when they basically got all that's when they got soft when they were off the drugs and alcohol soften somber and stuff. I mean you know. Their early stuff was quite rampant. In aggressive we talked about. But I don't know whether it's just a timing thing when you became fans at them but I honestly you know really thought that this was this this album. They're awesome standard tracks. And I I'm like you. I prefer in general the slower numbers from the Chili peppers. In general. That's just my take on it and stuff but I just wonder looking at the looking back at the first six on this album. Would they have lost found even if it was their most commercially successful? It means it becomes a commercial entity right here. It has appealed to people that have. Maybe never heard of them. There were some people thought. This was the first album maturity. Pepsi's ever did. They never heard of him then. He hears scar tissue on parallel uniform. I in California -cations as singles and they're like. Oh who are these guys kind of thing? So they win new fans that they lose fans as well. I guess you're always was a band. You're always going to lose fans when you change in musical style. And they changed musical stall he so they definitely lost fans but outside. Those fans are immature in their thinking because a band is always going to be producing new stuff and you want to be producing new stuff and even though you might not lock the stuff that they produce your go to appreciate and respect. The fact that the ban is going out there enjoyed something. In a hundred percent regularly pep has gained more fans net was and they lost the release of California -cation and I think even even though it's fans that back then more might not have might not have liked Calif- occasion. I mean I I mean you've gotta come around to a man as a fuck. Hey album and But I just feel like gripe bands evolved. They're always going to change the sound. And that comes with maturity as well it lyrical musically. You know as a as a musician as musician. You don't WanNa be doing the same stuff you in ten years ago. You won't be drawing new stuff and Are absolutely that would have lost fans out of this but I would say those fans Immature in their thinking fair. Enough interesting comment. I think I'd say that for anyone that doesn't like a band. A- It's fair to say that you prefer the upper you dine. Lock the band anymore. Because I've changed this and I feel disrespectful to the oddest disingenuous. Fair Enough Fair enough point trap. Seven a exactly how it goes for. Those songs felt chop shops from this. I feel like Chad. Smith comes a little bit of something in the background Really Love Hop Everyone knows face. The same person's will ferrell the reason album of its untimely attention stereo much noisy fast paced drums a great easily. It's warm well pretty much. The halfway mark This is a good night's on it. I've just ridden great song. Td less more Everybody is track track track eight porcelain. They're softest track on the album of feel when I thought I mean wake up. Feel like this is their softest track as their largest drift throwdown and fading away so this is apparently by Keita's Mattis woman right this young woman's shoes alcoholic because she was in Rehab trying to get clean and chatty young doesn't sound like anything Anthony Katie's couldn't believe he was at Riyadh Amy or whatever he met this woman and she was talking about life and she was like nineteen or some. What are you doing here? You're nineteen years old and she's a great young daughter and he's got a young daughter and she thought yeah she's five and he couldn't. He did the maths and he replied. Jesus Christ how long have you been drinking four using or whatever? And she's off pretty much since the kid was born in so this song apparently was quite heavily influenced by by that by that story and it definitely is softer and there's a great sensitivity in a great for judy to voice and stuff and I I like this. I think it's it's very different to any else on the album. I'm musically it's it's spot on. It comes at a great point in the album as well now great. I really like it. It's drug addiction rearing its head again. Yes feel good feel good narrative and then subtract nine Jumping in with the city sees basically the words summertime backwards Emmett Ramos so so autumn on this one again is pretty. It's pretty Allegedly written by MEL SEATS SPICY SPICE GUILTY. We had A. He had a short relationship within the in the sort of late ninety s and There's lots of references to You Know California on of course London and trimmers Hale and hamsters and stuff which is why she nothing random. The time a lot is song again. It's Kinda comes off the back of porcelain. Which is it's a lights in number. It's a bit more dreamlike But yeah I I like this song your thoughts like it. It's got a really funky baseline to start the song and in terms of the baseline is a band. That way once watched a couple of times in new of a number of times That I think we're heavily influenced by the Chili peppers. Did you ever think the suitable few was somewhat influenced by the chilies in terms of the Funk rap starring incredible Bass player Chauncey sexing on his ankles or Italic? Nick retallack Suitable few yet. I did have a bit of a Chili peppers. Never looked at Johnston thaw ECOB ever flea appeal to it with his massive earrings that rip open his loops and stuff but also faces guitarist but Y- Dave same same. Basically the same as both guitars only was he. Not the basis bond was the basis on Yeah PINATA super few but they used to do quite a lot of jumping around the stage. Aleck-y to style. I haven't I haven't thought about. I say what the MEL C referenced reminded you of coming to me just numbers to this at this album. That and the bass heavy funk vibe was very suitable esque Ms Ms. I'll song Yeah I did not know. It was about Mel say. Melanie Chisholm Who Anthony Katie's drove around Hollywood and got tattoos with and things like that. At the time Rick Rubin actually after the seven winning produced her record That's right. It's a great album after say but there's a very very good Chewing on it and I think I think if I'm not mistaken it's maybe missy Elliott and it's I think it's called things will never be the same again anyway. It's like this is such a random thing but it's a very very good song of a very average album and I've never said that about any expires. Skills Music told but that song is very very cool. What does a bit of a coup a coup to get to rick? Rubin Chelsea C. I must say a lyric in your doing joy what could be wetter then. An English girl American man. I think Emmett remers summertime spelled backwards or also be referencing the backwards guitar if the player in the verses which I read about in more research but Eat peeled for that. It was sorry my mistake it wasn't missy Elliott It's a song as code. Never be the same again But it was Lisa left eye Lopez of TLC fame who tragedy died in a car accident after burning her boyfriend's house down a bit mental. But yeah but but I think that I think missy Elliott has done it with Mel c since but it's a great song chicken you know. I don't know if anyone's gonNA affect shaky after that little common. Go go go check as a good song right. Yes so Subtract nights they tracked him where we see now. I like the I liked. I liked the sound like anyway. I like the track of races This is very much Back to that so the blood sugar sex magic by feel too short sharp for Shenton San Great. The faces true brilliant on this. I mean he really hear the Bass on this song. I really liked it so like really relied to somebody. It's quick flicks like just a fraction two minutes thirty but yeah con. It comes at the right time for me. The numbers before children fact right up until this point it's pretty but I like I like I like but there is a dirty to. This song is very very cool Yeah I didn't This this was up there for me as the song And it was there for Fringe rescue a raise him. But I mean this is fifteen unbelievably banging traction this album. This is very old school funk Bates ripping guitar in it Autumn on the overall main Could seem to revolve around wanting day at clain haven't spoken that again But naming someone told to do it a caged howie the he wants to get clean or you hypes the John Does old. Someone's getting clean and that definitely is a greedy song. Man I like to have you. Have you read this book? I Have Scott. Yeah I have to DA. It's just like every time you go while you know could get better now. You know it's been so bad like it just gets worse and worse and then he gets clean an any cuts back into the drugs again and gets clean. And he's with I. E Sky The actress an avid ratio. Bending then she leaves him because of his drug and then he's with Heidi Klum for awhile and she fucks off because of his drugs in any an- An- any that this is our site. You know you just think well it's better at some point is a great great book Right it's a really. It's one of my favorite autobiographies ever put. It's a Canetti. Read it once because it's just constant constant constant dismal dark shit over and over again. It's it's not the dismal. Nece that audition enjoy actually. I really enjoyed reading it but the reason why I haven't gone back. He's I think exactly what you're talking about there. It's not the dismal is just the repetitive nature with which he slides backing so does drugs go through. Rahab GETS CLEAN CLEAN FORBID ROTHMAN. Chains ended up with a girl. Stop doing drugs again. Does Drugs Clods into addiction. Almost days GOTO REHAB GETS CLAIM TO GO STARTS REPEAT. Repeat Repeat Repeat and I think it's the it's the repetitiveness that are got frustrated with But also in Lawton boy But yeah again and read it once. I haven't read the second time. I don't know if I can Tom. Because we're going. I mean come in on the wool. Isn't it yeah. Yeah it's a bit louder you like dude. Come on just pull yourself together. But it's quite long book because he spent a good part of it. I like autobiographies but I was a bit where they talk about youth. Because it's all I just want to know about when famous but the thing about him is that his old man was pretty well known and he used to knock around sort of this crowd in Hollywood right so you know. I think I think by the time he was eleven years old is that gave him his first joint to do you know took him to a brothel and said you know. I've sex with across the chew at age. Twelve or something so it's actually a very entertaining us so But Yeah Great Book. Anyone that has already vote All right track. Eleven this Pelvic Club way way round this I feel about this club many nights on it but I just Yeah TV SONG. I like it. I like the two songs. These golden glove and easily very Very little nights so I think for me. This is where things the auto show. I didn't have a lot of stuff. I reckon honestly speaking face it clear if they'd have ended the album I like this would may well be a stone cold classic but I think milk tip it too much and put some unnecessary tracks on this one thing that you sacrifice. I love the But beyond that I haven't got much more notes and and the same really for Subtract twelve save you. It's it's a good song but it doesn't go anywhere doesn't doesn't do anything for me I got so caught up in the first ten songs that you know I I kinda wanted them all to be very very distinct and just to instantly liked them and and save does little for me. I always felt club. Savy that Mommy say. Save Me Nassir songs on the album. I think it's a better relationship between Katie's and his father Blackie damage I'm not as well but his parents were separated. Leave the beginning he's off. He's with his mom in Michigan and then When dealing with his father when he was twelve years old and then is is dead. Had exposed drugs bullet. Tommy was fourteen Let him have secretaries falls gopher and when he was twelve years old like I mean. What a fucking it. It's just a mental upbringing. And I feel like this song for me and of course is a completely different song Both home it. Gets you a bit familiar? Song is about not a redemption But more of a forgiveness in respect I guess for Katie's father End In this song particular. Draw for Sean Ticks. Yeah he's guitar affects Has said that they were directly. Inspired by Clapton's work And he said that he didn't think any raising guitar soloist to try to go any way beyond what Eric Clapton did. At crime as the ultimate he he was he was directly. Inspired by. And I think it's It's Eric Clapton cream. Mary Club right when he was when he was doing cream. Yea because I was I mean. Solar stuff is great but what he what? He was increasingly Nassar's when he was really punching at the Solos and quite quite a while in pre engaging content but during that period I mean that's when he did his best work as I'm concerned so it doesn't surprise me said that ask right. Let's play. Let's play this. Let the view saw. But yeah this is long does not and Yeah this is track twelve off the CHILI PEPPERS ALBUM. Calif- -cation this is Savia thousand. Now Yup track track dirty propose stain stain old school chili peppers. I mean it doesn't do much it's kind of its way it's like it's like a hatchet of songs that doesn't do much for me. Misses the third in the trilogy. I you know I. It's probably the most indicative of their stuff but it doesn't go anywhere for me. It's literally at dealing with going here. I lyrically it. Lets me down. Musically it's K- it's great but Ripley it. Lets you down. I mean it's it's it's a I suppose it gets the point. Where like okay get it right. You talk about sex and drugs and rock and roll and all that stuff but you know you start writing song about a girl on on the BLOB and stuff. It's like the meets a bit light automated about. Yes yeah whatever. Wealth Today on that just on the period anyway. Whatever let's focus on it. A spit crass really isn't it and you know you know. I'm not told crass and Really it's not what it's about. Yeah straws a bit for me. It's Yeah it's it's not good finger. Paint is not a sin. Put My mid to bring in a monthly blood is what I win. I mean yeah I mean you download spin I mean look. The rhyme artist died. I feel like it's I feel it. Kiedis lets him down with. Let himself off feel like he's actually done and does do a very good job of portraying the situations that he's in and we cover job as Cauca as a lyricist in las pope different classes Sheffield. It's very observational writing. And I feel like Katie's is very observational writing as well. I don't know if he could just make shit up. And maybe that's because of he's emotional rollercoaster that he's gone on as a human being and that experienced and said therefore he's at the forefront of emotions that he feels and I think when you're writing about the things that he writes band mean when you're talking about great songs like other side Yes Scott Tissue Yeah Hell Universe you know. We'd great lyrical meaning behind them. Yeah you're not going to have a bunch of friends around than just rock at the time played purple stain. I know I know I think I think we can conclude the purple stain is not not their finest moment and then Rod On time time was refreshing male. Gladly backside she quite like it It's a bit of annoys though. I think he thinks welcomed off the last few songs I think he actually I. I like it again. He's crosses over that sort of fast paced rockier edge to slow a more melodic tone which I really liked some time to stand up for me but it's a to songs you say. It's one of his heroin addiction. Song Cross rise Rausing slowing in the songs are. Yeah I like it and it kind of brings me back from from Purple Stain Yeah it's not a standout on the album but it's not a good bridge between Palestinian until the closer which is a road trip in so road tripping. Yeah I like this is on our side in the album you either side. You've gotten You've got to come very different around the world which is which is all Shopping Eagle Road trip in which is just one mellon chill but of a stone number like the juxtaposition between track one. Fifteen thing they book end the album really nicely. So actually it's it's it's it's for me. It's a nice close to really sweet. Close it's a nice song. It's nice to them so so I'm okay with road trip in said that final five or six songs of a little bit all over the place in places but this is this is a good closer now augury it's at tier is the main one of the best songs from the album. It's great guys are just are just we should come the the Fisher. The APP feel do think fifteen songs albums too long. This great middle songs in But it would have been belting and I think it's a great song to finish on. I think the choice of closer. He's awesome I wouldn't have picked any clothes on These should just. It should have been tracked ten rather than track fifteen. Yes I think you know you look back and I think honestly you could bin Ich bin off three. Maybe four of the songs in this album and you take it down to eleven or twelve songs. Ten eleven twelve songs or whatever. I think it would be a very different discussion if I'm if I'M GONNA look. My least favorite song is shit song of this album. It's not hard for me to find one. That's GONNA come in the back end of the album but I would say probably I would say probably Purple Stain or this velvet probably purple stain. I would say in my least favorite someone. Southam may for the reasons I mentioned a few minutes ago. Literally lyrically let down And if I feel I do feel the back. Half is is weaker. And He's I mean easily Waco easily being a great song on the album Between this Velvet Glove Poeple Stein and Straw enrolling time. It'd be one of those rain for maize purple stain as well. And so. What's your favorite song in the album? That oh Geez. That is a question I was prepared for well because basically every other song is a banger. According to buying and pause for a moment he looked up to the scene in his response he said I said yes. Go beyond the side for me really interesting. Yeah Okay Okay. I feel maybe just the other side. Now it's kind of like a sequel to under the bridge. I feel. Do you know that where you just making outs making that up? Maybe well I think under the bridge is written about doing a shooting up heroin under Detroit L. A. Freeway and and now El Al Assad is basically it's a soft rock ballad science under the bridge in as far as a sequel. Maybe it's a sequel keys trilogy of songs these hidden. He's albums like little Easter eggs. At least Easter eggs. I would I would say for me. Thank probably actually my famous only arbitron one around the world. I think there's a couple of songs on there that are up there. I mean I a scar tissue otherside in California -CATION Particular favorites. But yeah. I'd say I'd say trap one just for that gang gang gang gang gang gang gang bit a lot of it So yeah around the world trap one. Okay Red Chili Peppers California. Tation thing light that was you know that is a long run. Lucky picture a fifteen track album but good to go over it so is it an SEC. Nevada pause once again this time he didn't want to the left enough would seek loans to the right and affords often denoting one is Eliah but Lavar cannot tell lies because he can't remember anything. I is it an SEC. It's well let's go back as you always say to Watts area round. Scc SO SEC's as defined by the Golden. Docs has eyestone again. Classic every single song has to be we have to go. 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What are you doing moving house or something? Oh okay hearing a e not write a case of basically. Everyone's GonNa you're rummaging around that you can fingers in your pockets or something So yeah so that was. That was the reason. So this is not a stunt co classy this album. It's as simple as full songs you. Yeah well this all songs on it that you could been off comfortably. So-called Sonko classic. It's not what is then led Zeppelin. Four maybe Dylan's blonde blonde is to SAC's in the history of the musical number thirty eight. We are still young and Free. Well as married as opposed. What percentage of albums should be an essay? Say maybe a top one percent. Suppose suppose maybe out of talk earlier. First hundred podcast ruining come across might be for. Vesey cities we think about it yet. Maybe maybe we're covering right albums window covering like any run of the mill. Kevin Molby was running the mill. That's the Moore's saw him the other night. 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We are getting closer to forty not are not only important but we only this year So Up is a recommendation from a random list of the guy that Suggested the smiths the clean dead has come back. Is that one of his original suggestions in these ills request to dismiss No it was. It was that that bloat we've done. What HIS NAME IS RANDOM INSTAGRAM profile? And he said he came across our pod. Wait for it. He studies bioscience or something at Edinburgh University and he said I came across my. You'll doing some research for that. I don't know but he said the police said he suggested This is the this. Is the debut album from an English punk rock band? That came out in the late. Seventy seven talking into this next week. This is interesting one. This this is a band that are fuelled to to English punk bands. This is the second one that will be covering interesting as he came in. Her white doesn't really matter. Feel about this this band and the other punk band when we jump on next week sweet or at Might Nice on thirty California -cation thanks lucky good boy jazz. Say Bye bye.

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Third Happy Friday of October Show Intro

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06:55 min | 10 months ago

Third Happy Friday of October Show Intro

"At target each item you put in your cart brings more good to life like a coffee brand that opens more is to black business natural laundry detergent that puts a lighter load on the planet wheelchair friendly. Halloween. Costumes that set make believe in motion and make up at celebrates beauty in every shade. Here. The good you want is always within reach because target we believe in good we can all afford. Mango Hosa part-time Genius Co founder of Mental Floss and like many of you, I'm one of the twenty one million people that have picked up gardening in the past six months. That's why I'm hosting the brand new podcast humans growing stopped brought to you by Iheartmedia, your friends at Miracle Grow. Join me on a green adventure as we talk with experts, friends and surprise guests and gardening means to them listen to humans growing stuff on the iheartradio, APP apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Ladies and gentlemen welcome to the Steve Harvey Morning Show. Called his heart soul fried. Hold it. So, very hard to do when love. And that's no La. So very hard to love golf. Here. To Log. On. Come on Jeffrey. Osborne. Wait Net haven't missed appeared always. Bit You. May Have missed appear. Way. Wrist be. Do with the. to yourself at least. Oh That's A privilege. Surely, Straw. Hey. Good Morning. Good morning heavy Friday called. You bet a Jeffrey Osborne up. Junio. Learned so much back, descendant music May. Here. Or you missed it. You missed a good year carrying rights nephew Tommy. I'm in the bill attack is fried. Right. would. You didn't. Get through songs. Oh. troll third. Live, living here. Would you with covert holding on I'm good. In known. You in cold it. Came into this relationship. Is Hard. No covert is real because I was thinking about. Way next week to play some golf. Social distance own a golf course you know. Young. It works for me not Mitch who it is. Yeah dates a woman who lives in the same city. Has while. I was talking about true. Would Ma Termi today? And he overheard it he said Mr Harvey. Is a business trip I say Yama Take Care. Some business. or Can I go? I said you don't play golf. Yeah but I've been quarantine for five months with my girlfriend. Thing. That got to do. I'll just one if you need anything. Awesome what? Real. Young. Girl. ALL RIGHT STEVE COMING UP thirty two minutes after the hour asked the C l o the CLO chief love author Steve Harvey in the Building Right. After this, you're listening to Steve Harvey Morning Show. Feeling lost then we've got the PODCAST for you labyrinth. I'm Amanda Knox and I'm Christopher Robinson. I know what it's like to be absolutely stuck to wind up in a life I never expected but everyone's got their own personal maids complete with dead ends, shortcuts and mentors. So we're bringing your podcast where you can get lost on a cruise ship in the trauma of a mother's murder in a presidential campaign or in a corrupt court surrounded by ravenous media a podcast featuring unlikely obstacles a terrorist husband, a shadowy cabal, a pregnant wife across the ocean. So come on, get lost with us as we bring you stories from Jon Ronson Lavar Gasoline Mohammed Dave Navarro Andrew Yang Malcolm. Glad well, and others expect dark and hilarious misadventures, controversial questions, and above all expect to arrive at unexpected places. Listen to labyrinth on the iheartradio APP on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi. This is Hillary Clinton host of the new podcast you and me both. Here's a lot to be anxious and worried about right now, and it's made so much worse by the fact that we can't feed together. So I find myself on the phone a lot talking with friends experts really anyone who can help make some sense of these challenging times. Like Semi Nas rat author of one of my favorite cookbooks or Stacey Abrams, who we know as the woman who should be governor of Georgia. But did you know she's also an award winning romance novelist or Tan? France who has lots to say about everything from athletes to the American dream? These conversations have been a lifeline for me and now I hope they will be for you to. So please listen to you and me both on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Pimpin' NFL Picks

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11:15 min | 10 months ago

Pimpin' NFL Picks

"I think stall I found them the arrogance curse in. It's is are just very life. Then what is it Ted keep spinning? Scary. Really scary. Missing out on GEICO's easy to use mobile APP. You can manage your Vica policy whenever Larry. Looks play with another doll. We can just bury it deep in the ground. gyco we download. The industry-leading, GEICO APP today. This is the secret syllabus podcast I. Remember the Good Old Times I was a college student and then twenty twenty hit. Hi I'm Hannah Ashton and Katie Tracy. We're here to fill in everything they missed in our college curriculum. Just, like you were confronting the unknown and if we're being honest, we need all the advice can get listened in the secret syllabus on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast see after class. Time now for Penn Penn with this NFL picks. So. Funny was. Like. You can see me but I can't see you. Hello. It was a it was up. What's happening? Everything going on no, that's right. It was a it was a Tommy. Feet. Now. Like yours. Wow I. Day told me to. Get Live playing only web. Come out. Jay. What opinion what's going? On everything everything June. Fifth in my hero. was that damn pit. All right. Little people. Are Calling, pick. Don't you? Pimping draining. A We got to. Talk, about what you got on what only? Dog You ain't notice right here. We'll see the glass. His last. My. Whole coat. Is. Week. You. Never know what is that? All is made out of all English bottle caps. Eight Camps. My sister made this code Manton. As Co pimp. They were saving holiness from the card parties on weekends Okay. spanking. Okay. I got bottled camps all over this thing step on the back. That would hurt. Take them off to bed down damn? New Jumpers All right pepper was going to get these picks here. Man Go to this week man do a good. She sees no. Known all right. Here. We go. DENVER BRONCO. That New England patriots I'll man. Kam. Back Pay Camac Hatred Sheild K.. 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But I won't coach to me then the same Veton Brown. CHICAGO BEARS AT THE CAROLINA PANTHERS WHO've? Bridgewater come on pamphlets. New York jets at the Miami Dolphins? Alvin Goldstone. Lady Daily football would him at quarterback running back? He go you gain right here Pippen Green. Bay, packers at the. Tampa Bay. buccaneers which you escalate beyond, right? Yeah. I love both I love a Ron. She. Graph. How, when I will go with the buccaneers. Tampa. Is Los Angeles Rams at the San Francisco Forty niners you know to forty nine has been catching hail man hand to go round the rams. It is man all right man go. The Houston Texans at Tennessee tight. Outing field. Elsa. Obligated, you know what I'm saying. Ou. Don't be. I can't when I see do. All right man Monday night full Kansas City chiefs at the buffalo bills. Well, you know cheese laws last we didn't do this noble even given. You don't think they played the Buffalo. engaged. Gay. arezzo cardinals at the Dallas. Cowboy. then. I. Feel so bad for back. Man. Yeah. Oh, man that hurt me when he went down. So I'm GonNa go go with the Cardinal. Wait a minute Andy Dalton with the Dow would cowboys yeah. Oh. Yeah Yeah I hate to tell you this cowboys. Upset. Okay and not wanting to pick. This man explains everybody to pip to Cleveland browns and Pittsburgh, steelers has this don't Canine lemmings main team. This is going to be real hard to low. Now, is titans over the Texans. Browns. Test the year. Okay. Wego. We've been on resigned. No, you'll see it. You will you see good season y'all having. A Win because so many damn laws, but we got four in a row him. Wherever now, we we got a little swag about us. And I got Sunday ticket makes you see yes. This arrived game though just a rivalry game. Big. Game. It is. All Day I do I've been doing pretty good. Man You have some money. Thank. You. Thank you. Thank you you're coming up in two minutes. On the morning show right after the. You're listening to. Harping morning show. Hi. This is Hillary Clinton host of the new podcast you and me both. There's a lot to be anxious and worried about right now, and it's made so much worse by the fact that we can't be together. So I find. On the phone a lot talking with friends experts really. Who can help make some sense of these challenging times? Like Semi Nas rat author of one of my favorite cookbooks or Stacey Abrams who we know as the woman who should be governor Georgia but did you know she's also an award winning romance novelist or Tan France who has lots to say about everything from athletes her to the American dream these conversations have been a lifeline for me. Now I hope they will be for you to so please listen to you and me both on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Feeling lost than we've got the PODCAST for you labyrinth. I'm Amanda Knox and I am Christopher. Robinson. 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KFC Fire Logs

Best of The Steve Harvey Morning Show

04:59 min | 9 months ago

KFC Fire Logs

"GEICO Presents Monster Counseling Dracula tell me how you're feeling. No one understands how lonely these no one will even let me into their house. I can knock but they ignoring me. What else I look in the mirror? Don't even see myself anymore if you don't see yourself clearly can you really expect others to I'm having a breakthrough it's not easy to be a vampire but with GEICO. It. Super easy to switch and save hundreds on your car insurance. When Law and orders the headline? What does it mean for us Eddie K Williams an attorney and former public defender and host of a brand new podcast. But we're going to cross examine news-making cases in famous faces to understand the context and I'm Dustin Ross TV writer, cultural observer and I am thrilled to be co Hosting Holding Court with every K Williams this is not a podcast about the law. This is the show for the people to help us navigate a rick system teachable moments from the so-called law and order headlines Listen to holding court with Ebony K. Williams on the iheartradio APP on Apple podcasts or wherever you podcasts. KFC's bringing back their popular chicken Senate fire logs for the holidays. So now you can. Say That without. Faith. Luck. Chicken KFC. They're okay. They're really popular though their chicken scented fire logs. From US noticing. We. Logs. On the fire your. House. Like Fried Chicken. You can enjoy a relaxing night by the one, hundred, fifty of law. I should get that Oh that's cool. No No. No. Don't do that show. Don't do that to that man thinking if somebody when you come in the house. And your. That berry burning law, a fellow that wouldn't be. Money Looking Good idea. Great. That's why. She has no idea when it'd be finished calls it don't matter Wendy. Yeah. No, I just want him to hurry up. So I could get the dust out and everything but other than that. Yeah. Take your time These fire logs are so popular that they quickly sold out for the past two years straight. If you can have your house smell like a sent, what would it be any kind of food for me loose? All right. More of the Steve, Harvey Morning Show and some trending news coming up at thirty three minutes after the hour. Right after this, you're listening to Steve Harvey morning, show? Feeling lost then we've got the PODCAST for you labyrinth. I'm Amanda Knox. I'm Christopher. Robinson. I know what? It's like to be absolutely stuck to wind up in a life I never expected, but everyone's got their own personal maze complete with dead ends, shortcuts, minicars. So we're bringing you a podcast or you can get lost on a cruise ship in the trauma of Mother's murder in a presidential campaign or in a corrupt court surrounded by ravenous media, a podcast featuring unlikely obstacles, a terrorist husband, a shadowy cabal, pregnant wife across the ocean. So come on, get lost with us as we bring you stories from Jon Ronson, Lavar Burton Jasmine Muhammad Dave Navarro Andrew Yang Malcolm. Glad. Well, and others expect dark and hilarious misadventures, controversial questions and above all expect to arrive at unexpected places. Listen to labyrinths on the iheartradio APP on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi I'm Mary Ross and I'm hosting new podcast called vice news reports with so much going on around the world and so many people telling you. They have the definitive take on the news we bring you to the news so you can hear it for yourself from the newsroom that has earned more emmy nominations than any other news team. This podcast goes where you can't. Forget your justice bringing you along where it's all happening. Since third suspect read this evening is just the beginning of the night. Conflict Zones. That that isn't a fun, these guys are just firing rockets. To the labyrinth of Joe Life I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I'm a conspiracy realist. COOLEST MINESSOTA right now in the middle of a protest, open the doors. You've never traveled quite like this. Get the vice US report podcast on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

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Behind the Scenes Minis: Demon Core & Green Book

Stuff You Missed in History Class

19:01 min | 10 months ago

Behind the Scenes Minis: Demon Core & Green Book

"At target. Each item you put in your car brings more good to life. Like. A coffee brand that opens more is to black business natural laundry detergent that puts a lighter load on the planet wheelchair friendly Halloween costumes that set make believe in motion and make up at celebrates beauty in every shade. Here the good you want is always within reach because target we believe in good we can all afford. Hi this is Hillary Clinton host of the new podcast you and me both there's a lot to be anxious and worried about right now, and it's made so much worse by the fact that we can't be together. So I find myself on the phone a lot talking with friends experts really anyone who can help make some sense of these challenging times. These conversations have been a lifeline for me, and now I, hope they will be for you to please listen to you and me both on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome to stuff you missed in history class a production of iheartradio. Happy. Friday everybody Tracy Wilson and I'm Holly Nine. One of the topics that we talked about this week on a show was the demon core and other criticality accidents and I said that episode that I might tell a story on myself about a time that I've done an incredibly foolish thing knowing it was foolish but also did not involve handling nuclear material. please. Do I'll tell one as well and you'll be like, oh, I'm not as stupid as Holly. My first apartment and the building had been sold see another owner and I was very very nervous about whether I was going to like my rant get raised or whether I was going to get a victim like I did not want to cause any problems. And I had the stacked Washer Dryer Unit in my kitchen. And it had stopped working very well and I realized it was because the place where like you clean the dryer vent like that was all plugged up with dryer lint. So I was removing the dryer lint from that part of my dryer with a fork. Did you unplug the drier? Yes. The Dryer was unplugged I was that smart. But as I was doing this I thought to myself self you're going to drop that fork. And then you're going to have to explain to your landlord. Who you're already, concerned about. With your housing you're GONNA have to explain to your landlord how you dropped a fork into the interior of your drier, and then I dropped the fork. And I was able to get the fork out of the dryer. I think what I wound up having to do was like detaching the dryer hose from the wall and going in that. It was not my finest moment I in my defense. I was like twenty two years old living on my own for the first time, and as I said, very concerned about whether I was about to be addicted because the building had been sold. See, I have. So many of those moments I feel like there's here's one thing that I will say upfront it never fails that right before I injure myself terribly in some stupid way I go. This is stupid and then I do it anyway and there we go. I will tell the story of. Not Electricity but many moons ago I used to make a lot of giant costumes like we would wear them to Dragon Khan and stuff, and once I was working on one and I was using an exacto blade to cut I. think it was like not PVC. It was like a heavy garden hose that was part of a thing and I just kind of like had it in my lap a weird way and I remember thinking like I'm being so stupid but God, I got to get this thing done and then suddenly I don't even know quite what happened I just know that I was looking at my hand in there was a an exacto knife. All the way through it and I just. Had it standing there on my hand kind of like almost aw that's interesting. That's not how that's supposed to like my body just like took my brain out of the equation in terms of any sort of horror and worrying a goodness not for the fact that one of my friends who is very squeamish. was there and was like. Your hand. I don't know how long I would have just sat there in a weird shock. Going Gosh I'm so stupid. Lucretia sticking out of my hand but that happened yeah says, this is an audio podcast. People cannot see like the Progressive Look hard at my face transformed through during that story. Yeah. I mean I try not to be that stupid. That's a classic case of a Lake procrastinated project that ends up with sleep deprivation on a deadline that means you have to do something to get this done and you become a dump them. Don't like me kids. Yeah Like I can totally be like I can see being like this is this is a foolish thing to do but I'm doing it but again, not with nuclear materials. Yeah. and I did really there was this moment where I was like I had done all of my research I had a long list of gallery accidents that were just so similar. That I was like. Why am I doing this? I need some kind of resolution to this because otherwise it's like here's a bunch of incidents that happened they were bad and then like what? Then what there was one that I debated about whether to include and did not include and it was actually one of the reasons that didn't include it was because it was actually a reactor meltdown. Not, nearly as massive something like the disaster, but it was this reactor called the the S. L. One it was being brought back online after having been shut down for the holidays the like the winter holidays. And seems to have happened is there was a control rod that needed to be gradually and slowly removed, but it was sticky and they knew it was sticky and the people managing the facility knew it was sticky and they kind of just cobbled together some procedures, how to deal with the sticky control rod and what it seems like happened is the worker who was trying to pull it out, yanked it and pulled it too far too fast and the entire assembly went critical and it exploded and all three of them were killed and it was it had some similarities in terms of like their the safety stuff was was not being done, but it was also way more of A. Like a systemic thing of like number one, one control ride was enough to make this whole thing go critical number two like the people who were managing these three workers like knew about the stickiness problem and they hadn't found a good way to deal with it and then yeah won one of the outcomes from that is that it they then started designing reactors so that you could not cause the whole thing to go super-critical by removing one control Rod. My question that I mentioned having during the episode the. Would save till now is like in this is a stupid question. It's not a real question. Why would anyone do these jobs? Yeah. I had this question of like what what knowledge where you gaining from these critic -ality experiments that was so so important that you are willing to do criticality experiments by holding radioactive materials with your hands. Basically I mean not really they were holding the core, but they were like building stuff around the corner with their hands and sometimes sticking screwdriver in it. Yeah. That's like what and so like I I read some accounts from. Earlier physicists who were like, this was critical research that needed to be done and there wasn't a remote facility to do it yet. So we did it and I'm still like. Seem so bad there's like such a bad idea. So anyway, there's a lot about this episode that I feel like it's just unresolved but. Also. I don't know it just. It felt like sort of a macab kind of horrifying thing that that made kind of atypical but also interesting October Entry Oh. Yeah. I mean right. If it were not for the unfortunate mortality rate involved in all of these stories, any one of them would make a very interesting scary creature inventions story or a you know how superhero gets their power stories but unfortunately, those are fiction and this is the reality that it's a very dangerous thing to work with. Yeah. I'm glad. That the industry I mean I have various various wish-lists I wish that nuclear weapons just didn't exist that that just had never happened. But since they do I'm glad that the industry involved with dealing with these materials got better at safety. Happy Halloween question. One of our episodes. This week was an interview that feel so privileged to have done with Alvin. Hall Jay Woods Weber about the podcast that they have created called driving the green book. This is one of those podcasts that is a team effort Alvin was the host and Janie was associate producer and the two of them went on the road trip together but then they're like editors and composer and all these other people whose work went into that show. It is really lovely I. I cannot. Stress. That enough we we got an email from somebody on our marketing team who had got an email from another team asking if we were interested in this and both of us were like, yes. Definitely instantly. Yeah. I didn't want to get into this too much detail during the interview because I really wanted to keep interview focused on them as much as possible and on their work and not have me having like extended. Ground of our show in the middle of it but. I. I heard about the Negro. Motorist. Green Book at this point it's been several years ago and I started trying to work on an episode on it back in probably twenty thirteen or fourteen. It was a while back. And at that point, there was way less information available than there is now The. New York Public Library. I mentioned in the interview they've digitized something like twenty three years worth of green books that hadn't happened yet so. I had like a partial scan of one copy and a couple of really brief articles. I was like I just I don't have enough to make an episode of this. And then as more. As more stuff became available in like the New York Public Library all those digitisation. More stuff then it was more like I just can't figure out a great. Approach to it because a lot of times when we're talking about historic publications, we read elections from them and talk about them, and that just didn't feel as meaningful when big parts of those publications are sort of like lists of businesses. Lists of hotels that you could stay at. Of Places to get food. So the fact that they had this idea of going on a road trip and visiting all these people visiting the places that still are in business but in some cases, just talking to people about the things that they remember like that's. That's not something that our show could really support in terms of the way, our budget and our timelines and stuff like that work. And also just the way way way way richer experience then tracy and holly re passages from the green book. Yeah book of lists are fascinating to pour over not always. So fascinating to listen to. Longer, pieces of text in their you know their introductions that give a lot of context about what was happening in the world at that particular year and longer descriptions of tourist attractions and things like that. But it still like the driving, the greenback is a much more meaningful encounter with the green book than passages read. Then, you would have been able to put together. Yeah for sure. Yeah. For sure it were there any? Moments within that interview that took you by surprise yeah. So I had listened to the episodes that were out before going in to the interview, and so I knew at least what those first four episodes were about and I had a sense of questions that I wanted to ask and I had written all of those down. When we were talking about this is actually A question that I learned when I took a workshop on interviewing at a thing called Max Fun Con, which is the maximum fun podcast networks. Annual thing that they used to have. And took this interview workshop with Jesse Thorn. And he was like, I'm going to tell you a question that could be really great and the question was like, what did you think this was going to be like? How did it turn out and how did that compare and that can be a way to really get people thinking about things that an interesting way. So that has become a question that I asked pretty often. And when I asked it. Both Alvin. Engineer had totally different responses to it as you know if you've listened to the episode. Denise was was more like she didn't know as much what to expect because she had not done this before Alvin had done lots of road trips before. So albums response was very much about the planning and the coordination and making sure they stayed on schedule and that kind of stuff and I interpreted that in my head as Alvin having a since going into it if. What it was going to be like and so when I asked the followup of like, how did those two things compare? I focused on May. Today was thinking about it Alvin said, I'm going to say something and then it turned out Alvin. It came out totally differently from how was expecting. So like everyone who was listening to the episode like you heard that exchange play out. I had totally misinterpreted Alvin 's. Description of the planning process as as meaning that it, it went according to his mental plan and that was not not actually the case. I like I said, I'm so glad that we got a chance to have them. And that that you know sometimes one email will lead to great things. So it was really really pleased that conversation started I think while you were out yes, and then I was like yours for me and I imagined from Tracy but let's wait just just in case of course you were like, yes yes. So I wish we were out it was. Just to make everything a little confusing. Yeah. We were having kind of a relay race of podcast at that point where I was out in the newer out and handing off to each other. So again. I cannot think Allen Engineer enough they were so gracious in so generous and such a pleasure to talk to to you. There's always the most fun interviews when the people that you're talking to you. Are. Generous with their time and and make wonderful conversations to. Hope folks enjoyed the interview. Again, if you if you have been listening like I'm man I wish they would say the name of that show again, it is driving the green book. 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Ep. 529: Andrew Schulz

The Fighter And The Kid

1:54:37 hr | 1 year ago

Ep. 529: Andrew Schulz

"Many men can we start my punch. Obviously obviously a for sure Senate going to set a here on them. Black Jack Belton chips chicken. I think you'd be surprised you'd be surprised. Havoc any fight club spiked clubs Spike Club. A kid got a piece on them. Kasan Cutie pies. I still got it baby. Lift Your Shield and now from the on on its studios in Playa Vista. California is the moment you've been waiting for the filer and the kid is coming at you alive no not live that does make sense. I don't now it's a fighter and the kid might live well Catalin Catalin surreal name Leans well 'cause rooms like birthdays Catalin. No what is it. I bet we I bet seeing. Att I E N C. That's where where's that's where cat charges. They does your family call your cat. No no one asked the only me yeah only work well. This might be incentive. Is it today. Call you that because the L.'s are a struggle struggle L. is difficult well. There's no Ella my name glass. They removed it. Yeah so it would kathleen be a struggle. They're like let's just call you caffeine. Yes probably. That's the demolish the name at exactly but based up. No it's been a means how it's a real name come onto. It's a real name. I grew up with black people. They make names. That's normal thing hundred percent. I think his name is what is his real name is not even Alex Stanley it Stanley Cup. What do they call you banger? Ask curls some. Don't manage eh two nicknames. Though I call everyone like what's my Schultz either. Have a nickname but you lastingly. Last name is sticky. Then you go last year like not. Everyone's like Oh do you talk to Andrew nutshells even show for sheltie. Yeah so that. That's just wait. Goes in sports same thing in the locker room. It's no one's like hey fred. Hey Brendan Yeah D.C. Trouble last name Shaab. Shaab shop are. They called me when I got to campus. Did Call Me Tony G because they thought I looked like Tony Gonzalez Mexican for the longest. Call Me Toni. Yeah kind of -fensive whatever it was offensive felt a little bit. Why you latics Mexican? I grew my hair out now. Even that your face looks Mexican. Really Yeah the top part. You look like a cute show. I mean that's what it came from a Native Americans Yeah I guess that's fair like aspects and from North America Mexico. Exco is a native American and the Spanish went there and then they became Mexican. What are you white full? I'm full white. My Mom's from Scotland. Don't get wider dude. You are not straightway. You don't have some Spanish no hook up with warrior or nothing glorioso image. He always look like and says a these kids on twitter. They think that and I look like I didn't even know what it was. That's how Warriors Memorial. When I was a kid playing Super Mario Kart Warrior was? Like how old are you with me audio Oreo. What how old are you thirty six? I played the same. Mario Kart Warrior was it. I'm thinking wild Luigi while we now how are you. Glad with the mustache. G version of warrior. So Warriors. Bad Maurie Oh yes so if you look up while Luigi that's since I'm tall and skinny and I know why don't you go. Oh My fucking cartoon. I don't look exactly exactly say what I thought Luigi that does look like that's what that is me. Would you played him. What growing up I played him like you played with him play? The character towed broke. What I'm saying you you were familiar with him? Not that character. I don't know who that character was until people started telling I look like it. Yeah I don't know why he's noses pink for like you don't really like full white. How do we get off of UV Mexican before Mexicans being native Americans? I don't know just trying to figure life out. So here's the thing you're you're not Jewish. Though now. Everyone thought I was and I thought I would have to lie about scale why I remember I was doing this. I saw this audition for eons going great and like a Starting about talking about Jewish stuff like you're Jewish right now. I'M NOT IN A. Oh Yeah we'll call you. What could be called really show? What were you what was the show about? I forget what it was called me some sport show on e take. It didn't happen right at the time but they wanted Jews for it. I think they were like. Oh yeah one you know cool. There's Ataman and chop back actually play with the ball. We sell it to audience know Brian. Cowen Alan is not here. Oh yeah he's on set out the the warriors signal while while look at that. Look at that. It's the ears I looked at myself when we're doing this sketch I looked at myself a little bit and And I had had like this weird moment I I kind of look like a bat. Sometimes you look like yeah I can never notice these things until the Internet like informed me like I never thought I'd big noser big ears until until like I never knew who knows. I know I know my suit. No one's invite you and I will cocaine party. You have a single of his face what I said that to me. Wait a minute nose or ears. You have normal size xeres well. They used to be bigger than from fighting. They shrink. No your ears have grown in the middle parts. But they can't grow anymore like your ears and nose or anything that grows this as you get older no they don't they do come on get all the old dude. Look it up bro. I thought the rest of you shrinks and that's what the Left No. Here's an Oldie smaller. Data's smaller than he used to be but his nose ears are on point My Dad's got a piece man. I'M NOT GONNA be. He's got a beautiful knows strong. Do you think your nose. You'll have a big nose to the side but you know what is your your so Mexi in your face. You don't notice it because take your expanded exit Mexican Bro. You're fucking Mexi over here. Dude knows I don't know if you've got to know like look mine profile. My profile should be on a bill. It's legit I think it's a good look at it. They say women are more more attractive is is a big noses. Is that right looking. Appreciate his two guys with money. Now if you have money enemy knows the doug about smell you gold diggers. I'm put in but in all seriousness. I can't believe that you think that you've got a piece and your ears aren't big either. You have a face with a lot of face a lot of it. Yeah you look like a baby you think. Yeah you know like babies don't have any shape a lot there. Yeah it's just all face yeah all condensed like almost like a pug and it's like a little four it looks like a Pug hones- Janas Chris. Oh Yeah Yeah. Yeah Janas all be honest here. I know all his faces in the middle of his face. Yeah the restraint. Yeah it's like somebody went like this to his face was on photoshop. Yes sex if you're a chicken that happens if it's a girl it's tougher go. Yeah Yeah Yeah I guess yeah. It's yeah it sucks. But he's just looking kid this look at this all right He looks like a nice guy in the world. Best Year on New York ORC years. Just the nicest guy we just learned what that was your hero we call the Giro back home. So ridicules why it's euro okay Mr Fuckin- conflicts. La We don't we don't know about all the foods and all the perks in New York. What the food truck? Yeah are you sure you're like they did to feelings a New York thing thing. Are you positive and then. La was like Shit seems dope and then we took it over and then like real them of course we have to go all action with it and then real chefs were like in the back. Those trucks the cousins. Were out there in a corner making hot dogs outside the club Mexicans. Yeah No I I'm pretty sure agents. The first ones doing hotdogs rolled up in I mean maybe another type of dog but I don't know if they right Amsterdam known as New York City's. Yeah The New York City I wanted to do it. What's up bro Anyway? Anyway Do where you in. La which economic theater for the special like the last time they Zia forget the we saw once so I decide and then we came one more time so we could just make sure the lighting and everything else would be right and how we want to shoot it and where the camera angles would be and shooting in April April eleven twelve. And you've sold out seventy seven shows we shall we. Shall we say every time I get on the we saw. I don't know I gotta let them know you. Do you know what I mean. I'm proud of you mentioned fucking dope Have you announced where you're GonNa can't say just yet I I can't say just yet. Some people kind of figured it out but contractually. I can't say well there's only lake it's if you're an athlete with the shoe companies only like three. Yeah that's fine with that. Tough to kind of navigate through you have a good chance of guessing. Pretty good shot. Yeah how this it's not Netflix. Yeah yeah shocking shocking. And then you take that and it's like well what else could he had exactly. I can't say I I can't say. GNC when can you say I think in the next few months we may even after we film it. I'm not exactly sure why but I. But but for a second there might have been uh flakes right. Are we allowed to talk about this when it whatever you don't want no you talk about whatever you thought you were actually like last time. We had lunch they. They asked me to write painting while I was entertained. Degenerates they asked me do the thirty minutes. That fifteen minute they they shrunk down fifteen. Yeah I know and And a bunch of funny comics did it and I was thinking about doing it and then we got this other offer and then we told them about it and they didn't want to call that bread so so if you WANNA cough up that Brendan simple as that man. How your money where your mouth? Now what's up already. Ten billion in debt with a few million big deal will ten billion. Well worked out for you though. Everything's cool things been good. Things are good man just chilling. How charlemagne doing Charles? How is good? Yeah Charlotte's good. You go to Miami for the Super Bowl or no no no no. He's a couch talk to somebody. It was somebody I mean. He probably has like a million opportunities to do these things. But he's good. He's just like a diehard cowboys fan. So it's just a heartbreaking every year for him. There's all bummed up. Yeah did did you guys like his dad is a huge. I mean he is amazing stories. I think his dad is a band from cowboys games because he brought Heyzer take somebody. Oh Yeah I really fun on and he thinks tax is like the the answer no. I don't think anybody knows what the answer is. It's not deck and it's also not oh jerry. Jones is the honor. Yeah it's not bad. It's not him. But how hard is how fucking know what we're gonNA say Bro. Sciences I E. Yeah like how hard is it to pick the team. There's only a handful of guys pretty fucking easy. Just it's like I think it's maybe this is fucked up but I really think it's all coaching remember. I came here. We're talking about the wide. Receivers are useless theory. That now is pretty common. What do you mean comments a commandeering eerie now? Everybody agrees it's useless receiver useless and they'll pay him dime. It doesn't get them anywhere. I could get a bouncer from one okay to make him a wide receiver guaranteed. That's so insulting. You even want said this last. Remember more than I. I remember like a fucking Goldfish. But Shit your point on stand up because he had the best group of receivers and they won the super bowl name more than one. They had walk INS right. No Sammy Watkins. Oh yeah they traveled Kelsey tight and that's different. He's receiver receiver basically now. He's a title block. He's receiving tied. It still does things still blocks. Listen Tirade killed all the Renault homeless because he kicked a girl for an in hotel. That's the only reason you know. He's not the one that kicked kicked. No no no Kareem. Kareem Hunt beat up his girlfriend. I think tyreek just kicked one. Oh tyree just broke. His sons aren't say what he broke his son's arm. How you remember that but how? I don't know she was Sunday girl too. That's how I know football players. Did you beat a girl. I won't know you. Yeah that's you know or if you're like a mass murderer like an Aaron Hernandez thing did you see that the daugh- yeah. Yeah what'd you think. Here's my problem with his gay. No I I don't think he was gay and now all of a sudden they can't defend themselves as in heaven Bro. That's the best troll. What what does this release tyreek Hill and his fiancee sons broken? RBIS gunman big trouble. Yeah but you don't WanNa break your son's arm well. He was like disciplined. 'em Is Pretty fucked. But you're not snapping happen half breaks fucked up dead so there's a thing like how much can you discipline your kid. You have kids can't do that so I don't have my kids do you. spank you know. I think it's great to read a book but they're not old enough yet. I'm saying for parents. Read a book. Read a book. It's well documented. There's been so much research out by hitting kids that's not. They don't respond to that. I don't think just scared of you. I don't think you hit them after a certain age. But you know how like when a dog shits on the road you gotta like put put his face in the shit to let them know that you don't do that. Yeah right because they don't speak English right sure. So when the kids don't speak English and yet you have to to find some way to say bad or good they know from your intention they can feel like the tone of your voice. You think I know okay have to. I mean here I am teaching parent. I'm the kids at all that we'll see if my kid ends up Hernandez that maybe that's the thing we'll see. Maybe kids are a little bit more anxious now. Maybe things are a little bit more fucked up because they don't know the punishment to breaking the rules experience off. These parents are saw. We spent kitties and call the cops went what I mean. Kids call cops on the parents all the time because they know the cops income the house. That's absurd America saw. You should be able to hit your kid to a certain extent. Not Have you seen a parent hit a kit in the like in the market Jerusalem. Jesus Christ in the subway is it. Yeah I mean I'll be honest if the kid is loud out and the MOM does it. Part of me is like all right. Hey thanks Dan you go like you. Can't you can't be too supportive. Because that's her business but at the same time you can be like we appreciate what you did. We appreciate how you made acquire how you made the subway ride more pleasant trying to listen to this fucking Mariachi brand. This kid is But back to enter Hernandez that documentary. Here's the problem documentaries. They get done. Everyone's like Oh. They spun it the way they wanted yeah. TV like even his fiancee. I'd say was like he was gay. He wasn't that bad of a dude. Even Brennan asu making a murderer. He's all I'm not really that stupid. It's just that what they WANNA do or did you watch. That's chair the cheerleading one. No I didn't that was good. Damn Watch clown on. That one's good. No this guy right here. Mark loves cheerleading. Do good talk good. Talk Bro you like did you watch. Did you just use all the jarod. What was your lingo if you watch cheer? That's the number one guy. I forget his name. Jerry was so positive he didn't make the team but he would stay INC Selatan. Just clap understand here. Letting can you explain why we haven't I don't know either. I'm really going this. What's the point what competing? Why can't you just dance? Why do you have to you have to do y you have to smile more? It's evolved into like certain dose Ole like they do these pyramids now. Yeah and you want a perfect score if you mess points docked. Yeah the goal of it right like the the whole point of perfection. No but before that like the whole point of cheerleading to route on the football team right or the basketball team. Yeah right yeah okay so no basketball team though football team why are you doing it. Entertainment man but it's not the blue and group but they're going. Let's go who who let's go. Oh they don't say let's go now. There's there's no panther helps now. There's not that it's like a Diplo Remix just fucking pyramid. Yeah that's what they do. Mexicans it's not a reference dog bit intense you would have put the fuck and headstone on that pyramid biggest Mexican off into the cheerleading. No it's it's I don't get away from this. Let me ask you something here. Hey just pick a Jewish name. You'll figure it out in Hollywood because a tune in this is this is observation. I had to my girl. Why are all girl Mexican? Yeah soon I think we're onto something I think we're all raised Why are all gay? dudes attracted cheerleading and also because they like being flight attendants. I think that move is like if you're having done that. I don't believe you're gay and most of the cheerleading early because just to Dad Tony what not the measure your. You didn't know about your leaving and you saw a bunch of people just going fuck. Yeah Dude we didn't he my shit though I I've only met one straight cheerleader. My entire life. He's a comic Pele's Chapelle. It'll yes. Yeah Black Kid. He was a cheerleader for Louisville really like legit cheerleading. He hid it. He apparently kit it but he can he. He's just throwing up in the music so many chicks from it. I'm like Oh you the only evidence stray ballet dancer everybody. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah yeah yet smart it is smart it is really smart. You sneak make your way into some pussy. That's actually genius smart. Yeah but then you got your boys who and what is a great question. Would you rather fuck every girl or like tons of girls girls and have every guy think you're gay or fuck a few girls and have every guy thinks you're straight or the fuck all the chicken have guys I'm gay. I don't the really my friends would not the Internet things. What is your friends? Do think you're gay and there are a little bit concerned. Beer big fuck and I'm a big bear. You're a big fucking gay. You want it. It's yours you right dog. I'm a beer the hawk. What would you be a wink wink? Why not big for twins borough tweets are small? You mean dude. What is it there's tweets? There's Otters I heard that the right. No that's right they WANNA label. It's there's beer and there's tweets yes in the middle daughter. There's a bear there's an auditor there's probably elissa somewhere. There's all these different names. They have all these animal names. ooh A wolf. Let your body type see it. What what fucking site is okay? Otter sure Wolf. Lean muscular semi hairy any age Joe Manganiello. That's not there. We know what that is cub Husky younger younger looking at no bowl super built. Maybe what is it. Ah some hair do beyond the curable. I don't soon you know when you when you think about yourself how you identify. Are you like mobile. No what do you think does list. I'd between Chub and a Chubby ball shelby. She'll be boiled. No what I am. I know your your your daughter Wolf. What is it between Ottawa? Lean muscular semi hairy any age. But but Joe Manganiello is fucking mask. No Dude. You're not a wolf pup. I'm a wolf pup pup lean muscular lender young so so I'm kind of Harry S Very Harry S. I've always wondered how they feel about that. Is there like gays to like like got some guys that are into like Bush posey here but like are their gay guys like Alec Ass Air Hundred Percent Really I would assume right. They wouldn't has their flavor man. You know I have no issue with it but that is disgust though. Oh isn't it. It's the gym bunny sculpted under fifty jock all right tong. Hey here's a question. Is it wrong. I don't think anything's wrong. With being grossed out by sex that you're not into no like like you should be almost because that's what makes you the sex sexuality. You're you're like somebody's disgust me. What some Asian porn disgust me like? All Donovan Scape. Oh Yeah Yeah. Yeah Yeah you might be a girl. That's just if it's a guy girl shitting on each other. Oh yeah but that's about guy that's more about the Shit I assume or you look at the guy and girl. Pardon me like no. It's there's only to do shit this guy but Yeah I don't know but you're a wolf pup and I'M A I'M A. What was that Chubby Bull? Tailby Book Chubby Chubby Bill. I love it thick bull. Yeah Yeah I guess. I don't know I think about your little thick bull bull. Yeah I think think boy think like stocking like us things shredded all know. I think like fucking like odd job or some shit as tacky. He's like stocky. Knock you like muscular. No that's a little bull Ri- right that's a pit bull right you. You're you want like a bull like a big old horns orange right like they do with their pets. The sand you know how they get all sorts of cool names straight people but what are we name. I don't think we named girls right. We just like in girls hot fat lot Lizard Chubby Lot Lizard. What is a lot lizard a lot lizard absurd? Yeah like a girl hangs around like truck stops. Suck off the boys after a long road trip. Why are you saying Nisa tone that I should know it? I'm pretty I mean I mean around in La. It's pretty common or in mid West. You travel enough. Yeah never heard. It's only called a lot lizard. No my uncle. My grandpa were truck drivers so really have get Outta here. Lot Lizards man. Dan What were they. What were they up here fucking Ronas and shows do who knows who knows what in New York though? Yeah there's nothing there's no touching the road enough. Yeah Lot Liz. I love it a lot lizard. So how would you describe a lot lizard lot Lizard Cardio Buddy Lot Lizard trash prostate. Frequent truck stops seem rally. Those coming goes no pun intended gas stations. Yeah truck in life. Trucking life is hard. It's rough their podcast listeners. Though on the road at twelve two hours yeah just rough always thought those cabs were cool though having one of those in the back yes me too they camping. Yeah Yea I've always thought it. Would you ever do tour bus. I'd be thinking about because like burt does want Tom's dome one I don't guess who do one. I don't do well if I'm on the road too long you back a family horrible horrible resentment for being gone like Mike. It has for soccer the game on Saturday on doing standup Columbus. Mrs Soccer game granted the Basie ringling cats and he hasn't figured it out yet but still right and I can coach better than whatever dude was there. Oh Oh you want to be involved like that a little bit like these fucking up. I know what will work for him to try and experience I I I'll important of firsts you always hear people talk about that with their kids like I. I want to be the first day of school I I. I don't know if I really remember my parents at any of my firsts. Because they went to my my parents were so involved parents. Yeah man works out really works out come from frigging the gutter to make it. I know that's what they always say what we thought it. But when did comedy get this fucking reputation that like you had to be molested or beat up or some of alcohol or drugs traffic. I don't think know. How many people have you met in your life? That are just funny. Yeah how many of those people be met with alcohol problems in depression that artfully at all. Yeah they just way way more those people than funny people. Yeah that's a good point Kami for a while though is super dark I think it was and I also think it was like you know how like nerds. I'm trying to carve out their version of comedy. Now they're like well if you don't do this it's not it's not funny it's offensive. Whatever it is? It's just because they can't do it right so like if you can't do something you just set the ramblers ramblers around what you can do. Yeah right it's it's like white guys meal. Yeah there's no dunk in the NBA. Yeah all right I guess won't dunk exactly know exactly you just trying to set the parameters and So maybe there was a time where like comics were setting the parameters around comedy. Where like you had to have all this like fucked up shit going on in in your life in order to be you fucked up shit is relative you know everyone has a struggle? It's like even if Smith Complain Bitch about all this shit and here it's like it's nothing compared to the rest of the world like India. It's fucking nothing but that doesn't work. Does it. Like I can watch all those sad videos but from my point of view right like while I'm dealing with at the time is strength. That's is what I'm saying. Yeah everything's relative. So you're stresses relative sears. Situation Right so here in America if you don't have a C. for a week you're freaking the fuck out can live and and then people like well we've never had any we don't even know any and you're like Oh that's trauma to you exactly goes. Oh did you grow up with a traumatic childhood. I'm like when my dad was there. My mom was there Eh. Divorce back on things in the mirror every single fucking knowing your Mexican. Rest of your family's not you're right now hard that is especially grown up in Colorado Colorado home rattle rattle for the school shooting the big one on the columbine. Yeah Man I was in ninth grade in our school shutdown big deal woes columbine. So that's a wrap a host. That's like I don't know ten miles from the jury would like the the Weirdos today come to school the next day with a little like pap nurse off the next day because there was a threat on our school like there was like so you know how the losers when when this shit happens the on the Internet and they sent out a list of schools that are next Komo. That list won't have school the next two days. Okay but then when they came back was everybody early like polite to like the the Weirdos was there beat the shit out of them they went right out just kidding off Like even the Weirdos were like they might be weird but they're like God damn that's a little more trenchcoat that right now were out. Yeah TRANSCO IN A hot second. Yeah how is that even useful attire. tyronn Colorado Colorado's a winter jacket. Yeah I mean you mean it should have been a dead giveaway. We're in the fucking trenchcoat man. The black trenchcoat. They did it for a reason reason. I got it from some movie but I saw those parents. They got a little bit of responsibility. Kids in the basement. fucking mapping out the second thing for months Go down there and keep it out and What are you doing man? Yeah Yeah I don't know what I'm saying. Yeah I know to the fuck. No one went down there. There's down for six hours playing grab ass all night. How much do we blame parents? And the kids are coming up in trenchcoats and fucking Mascara. Hope you'll have an issue with this. We're GONNA fucking Navaro Navarra fucking nirvana all said Dave Navarro. He was also the band. The parents are responsible. Yeah check in. So that's a thing like what is it. When is it a parent's fault? How much can you hold a responsible ensemble for with their kid get that gets tricky if we know it is their fault? Why can't we like send him to jail for it shit but is it the fault fall of his this negligent like them? Just like I was working. We want me to work in him by hanging out down there. I thought they're making robots. Yeah I don't know look I'm not saying I have the the answers. I'm just saying that there is a situation where like we have no problem blaming. Let's say for girls a whore right. What whose fault is it? Nolan's let's not. Whose fault is it? No one she's a good girl whose fault is at chanter debt. Thank you daddy issues. Or she says a positive attitude. Listen experimenting batting Wayne to find the right one last week with the women's march or something. What's going? What are we over? Correct them for here. Regrading I have a problem with you. Try to hate on. Hey I'm all listen if you want to do it. That's fine because his guys are hose. Everyone's get on dogmatise. The girls like how dare you. That's the thing guys are hose. Nobody's like where was Yeah no right. Did his mom go to basketball practice. Like there's no recourse recourse if a guy shoots up a school. It's never the MOM's fault like anything happens to the daughter right. We had this weird thing where it's like. All the DASH should have been the dadge. Dad didn't love you that whatever and then when the fucking sun shoot up a school or does anything when he's just a fucking loser he's a piece of shit. There's no there's no. It is interesting always always to blame jam when a guy does anything. It's Internet's play when Dad 'cause that the shooter is always in the forms and like like he's what these other talks. Where's your malls whereas your mom? Well the mom can't be Mike. How your friends million is today like get in? They're getting that chat room okay. Here's the thing. The parents even though like well he was always like this. You must spend on drugs or it was the cigarettes like did you watch what he laughs. You don't fuck with cats not it yet. Everybody's telling my girls into this. Everybody's telling me about this thing. How do you see this Shit Dude Dude? I'm busy too. Don't fuck with cats. I don't care about cats you got to do another company like it you can fuck with cats. Well he fucks with all the what does he do. He kills them yes. They lives Bro. Not these ones they had nine fucking looking lives. How do we know that? Because these ones didn't get out of the bag that the jets put them in a bag and then and then like crushed the bag. He's terrible on dude. That gets a little far. Yeah he took it to that gets another level. But here's my I didn't kill the guy you got to watch all yeah yeah Sliced them up anyways. The point is a while even even that mom with the kids. Anyway cheerlead again anyways take Dona Varo anyway but even with that kid committing murders. We have we. Have we have videotape. Whole chat yeah? Even the mom was like I still don't think he did it. Oh that's another. She defends him amazing thing about women. They're the most down ass bitches and their love is so fucking what is it called. Unwavering on wavering. There's a word for it. What does it faithful? Your mother's love is unconditional unconditional. A father's love is conditional you think yes hundred percent really hundreds of DADS would only. He's only loves you because you're successful. I think if I was cutting up human beings my dad be like hey chill fill it out. Yeah agree stop. But mom's down mom is what did that person do what to do. My baby to Piss him off and think about got it and I looked at. I noticed this with jail shows right. About how amazing women's love is if you're watching those jail shows I watch all girl one zero one. Six Days in sixteen doesn't awesome and no six days isn't isn't enough. I'm talking about like longer term. Sure what do you got my point is. How often do you see their boyfriends husbands? visit them because once you commit a crime you're single you're single is great. It's conditional our love right. If you decide to murder someone and go to jail you broke up with me. You made that decision right now. These girls not only will they stay with their mom while they're in jail for murdering tons of people. They'll meet a guy in jail. Sometimes sometimes they faithful. It's unbelievable unbelievable. It's insane mind Boggling Hernandez Goren son. He killed her sister's boyfriend's and then she sounds like wow. I don't know what the fuck shit he was talking. More women need to be like that. Excuse me example of women. She's an example of a ride or die strong woman to one hundred dude hop out from got rid of the murder weapon being halls. or He's I care Yo. The thing is over there and then they got this bitch on video. Shrug is logging lugging to our nose in the garbage knows Oh is it. I forget I don't know some kid cats in their dude so I'm telling you there is a different type of love man. It's a different different type of commitment different type of love and it's his thing you'll hear girl snitching another girls either feel like dudes are quick to senate. Here's the thing. Girls will snitch. What if your eyebrows are fake eyelashes bachelor girl or their hair? SNITCHING EXTENSION DEMO reel. Yeah you know honestly one of the most fun things to do with your girlfriend or your wife have a girl I do it. Yeah any girl. I know who's had tons of work done fake tits are all that that Kinda Shit. I love that show. I act like they're real in front of my girl. Hilarious gets my girls all natural all natural makeup. She completely put the really reduce adducing up real in the street clothes. I tell my girl I tell me all the time and I'm like yeah I think Kylie's lips are fake and my girl will bring up fucking images of her at like thirteen to now needed he. What's so tight is so t j Lebron their sports sports? Yeah it really is so yeah there. There's a different type of fucking love but they don't think they'll snitch on us. I think they'll snitch on. I think they'll snitch on other women. I do think they will. I don't think they have that other women. There caddy bro female comets. That's true really. Don't fuck I do. And they've already chess on this thing. We talk about because they front. They're like we need to support women comedy and you're like who you support. We need support. Women comedy comedy like all these girls talk about. We need to women comedy and you bring up a girl who's killing it like Ali Wong and they're gonNA talk some shit. Where's this weeds more shit? Yeah the motion dudes Markor. Yes but west coast. y'All got trying to get. I'm on board. You know what I mean really. Just you know God legion. A skaggs guys really mark each other. They they support. You know common in Europe but his would just get in we just gotTa to figure it out these guys back home. They don't know the value support. You know what I mean. It's like it's like you don't know somebody to experience it like you don't know that money won't make you happy until you got money but you would like if Lebron James tells me to shoot the ball like this. I'M GONNA start shooting the ball like that 'cause successful yeah comics doing this. And he's killing on the road to take it yeah. I don't fuck them in New York on Africa the La guys like damn all these boys are selling shows. All the boys are crushing five. You know what it is is is like it's weird right. What it is is when you have they have like there's like a famine mentality out there because you can actually make money doing comedy New York like spots yet like that's that's why your money's all relative everything's relative but like the west coast guys? You guys all got rich because you can't make no fucking money out here right like I. I remember once I did a spot at the at the Hollywood Improv Great Club and then she tried to make me sign a w w w nine dollars and fifty cents. She had two quarters in envelope. Yeah and I was like you go. Broke Smart Cheeses New York. Take Take Matt Friend Maxwell Craig there so make money out here like if you do a show in the main room you can. I mean you can pay so like Nah there was a time in la. When I'll come here back in the day and it was was like you've made ten fifty seven fifty ten dollars for these little spots? Not Headlining show doing fifteen minutes right now. Maybe that money's GonNa it's different right but but there was a time where it didn't. It didn't seem like you were making enough money to sustain yourself. Make a living for girls. Should I'll acting or or the other things. podcast thing right like you guys real web series series writing like everybody here was doing something else as well and you found out I make that other thing you know make you guys millions of dollars so it's like Back home I think was crippling. Is that it comics in New York can make just enough money to survive. That's all the spots and I think inherently comics are lazy. I think the ones that aren't end up doing really well but we'll do at least amount of work to get the thing we want you know and if you ask a lot of commerce man I just want to make a living in this motherfucker. That's all you'll do if that's where you said it you're there. You won't won't go any. You might not even get there but you will not go any further so the worst thing about New York is often the best thing right the best thing about. New York's there's all this stage time there's all these guys are amazing. The worst thing is that you can get the golden handcuffs. You can get all the states nine one one just barely make a living. Now if you're just barely making you live in. Do you have enough to share help. No no because if you take one spot from me its problems is like how am I gonNa pay my rent so now you not really helping now you really a fight for yours that makes it right where is whereas I imagine out here. You know I you know sponsored still competitive that kind of stuff guys trying to get on the road guys are trying to open for people etc so I try to just get guys to realize is like the comedy in New York is the gym. It has to be your gym. That is not your end goal. That's just I know there's a lot of guys New Yorker like managers want to get passing the seller and that's going to be. It's like I was just talking about tell last week and I was like. That's the problem mentality is people go. I WANNA be in the cellar and then that's it and it's like he goes. No No. This says the Jim. This is where you work out. You make your living on the road. Yep but it's like Oh jeeze understood that the older guys understood but I think the younger guys looked up to those. Oh Jeez stole so much and they kind of just and they like they had this romantic view of what that would be like so they stopped dreaming. Pass that and while I'm trying to get them to understand understand what gets you pass that because those. Oh Jeez. Though that nobody's goal should be to just do spot to the seller. The goal should be you. Just walk in big. I'll do some time like my goal even even in the city and there's a lot of great clubs in the city there's New York Comedy Club. Amazing stand is really good and obviously the seller really good really good play the coffin. Right Gotham the headliner club. Those are like the headline sponsor. Nah maybe I'll pop. I'll do like a comedy juice and stuff like that but but there's a lot of great stage time but what what what I gotta get them to to realize. This is a means to an end like I never in my whole career looked at the seller is the end I was like. Oh I WANNA be here because it's always sold out and I can work work out material more. Yeah it was there for me to work out material. Even I remember when I first got past there and it was like I was trying to jokes and people. What are you worried about your new jokes like well? What's the point? How would I know if they work? Yeah like I'm GonNa do my Best Best Shit for twenty five dollars due to road making shit on the Road Tri C.. Wherever but I guess my point is will now? Because you're you're you but before if you're young you're let's say you're headline your first two or three years you're on the road you start doing bullshit. Crowd worked for thirty thirty minutes. Just bullshit succoured. You should never do that. Guy's never do a whole now. Hose Down Doug when you first start headlining like you gotta bring your immaterial man. Yeah no you gotTa kill absolutely. You've got to kill in La and if you're not good at you know coward than don't do would if you're not good at those types of things don't don't do it you gotta murder. But that was my philosophy was it was just like hey I wanna make sure that you want to come back next year. That's always what I'm thinking. Everyone should yeah. Do you sell less tickets this problem. Yeah and happens. Oh yeah you know ebbs and flows like I get it like someone had like a big pop because of something. Then you need to do like the correspondents' dinner some shit like that. You know what I mean like. Everybody knows you and then afterwards not as popular. But that's ebb and flow is going to be natural in a career entertainment. Yeah that's part of it. But that's that's it just getting people to understand their their things that dream bigger you go bigger but the guys in New York like Soder fucking normally like you've ruined how they're doing it. They're doing it yet. They still you know talk to normally talkative soda there that we shouldn't have to do social media but we do it. Yes one of those things where it's just like yeah. I'm sure basketball players wish they didn't have to jog. What you do is a new business? Instance with 'em as like. I'm sure Baghdad motherfuckers like I don't WanNa Learn Ju Jitsu Yeah. They didn't have to. I'm a bar fighter. I just WanNa go on a dude. Yeah go to the ground now. I'm not good enough to be a boxer. I JUST WANNA go hook off on somebody. Yeah right and then all of a sudden he's due to come into God. I got to learn it and now is a whole different group of comics coming up. WHO started young? I was talking about this with mark yesterday. It's like now the Internet is comics is starting young. You Got Comics. It are twenty four years old. been doing calming for six years. What you know so and all these comments coming up? They're coming up watching our shit so they're like okay. I got to know how ED video I got to know how to add subtitles. I know how to clips. I gotTa do all. So they're coming up and it's like if you want to stay in the game you better know how to compete. Yep you know it's like Lebron learn how to shoot threes because he had to join developed a fadeaway because he had to. You'RE NOT GONNA stay in game off of just your name and people in New York going. I like you keep out here. I mean there's some guys who got grandfathered in rightfully so like Chapelle or some shit like that but those days are can be tough man. Unless you're on youtube or is a a new game through the social media is a new mother fucking game and you know what you should be excited because you actually got some fucking leverage now on you. Don't have to Suck Dick at these fucking comedy festivals where everybody's kissing up to the network execs transcend. Jamfnow oh yeah I'll go to jail and I'll go out to dinner durum in smoothing exects. I don't hang out on like I'm doing Jeff I'd take my. Ira Me to those guys. I do the show and then I'm I'm if my boys is there a comics out. That's what I WANNA talk to him out. And even if I WANNA talk to like like even I was talking to one of the guys fell the other day. Who WanNa guys who runs the other day and I was like what are you look for from new faces because I got friends of mine? Who for some reason value shit which is no reason you should value it but they do they things are GonNa Change is back in the day? Did like Kevin Hart had a mattress set in Montreal. fucking everything about popping absolutely now. They're so mad. Hey Castle is dope. Yeah Yeah you're right. It's just a different game now. Is it different. That being said like Youtube is felt like muggers know about you already. I'M GONNA go to the show to click a video wanted and you can watch it. Not just the credit jeff says change Bro. It's like you know it is it is just well. L. Is all changing dude. I I don't know how much longer agents are going to be around or managers. That's legit like let's be honest because is there just venue teach at TJ mark. Walter I love you. You're my gosh. You always going to be with me and I say this. So he doesn't get nervous that kind of shows I see no no he he might get five your hands. It's a matter of fact when you're fired but like what I've said to him as this is like all right so you have these promoters is world people. Don't understand about the game once you get out of comedy clubs when you're in comedy clubs. It's easy agent calls a comedy. Omni Club Comedy Club puts this show on do show you start getting into the theaters right. So the agent doesn't call it theater. I just had to learn about this shoot. The Asian calls a promoter live nation. Yeah Yeah livenation. AG Any of these other agent promoter the promoter calls calls theater the promoter puts on a show. Right promoter pays me. Why do I need my agent to do that? They didn't do. He sat what I told my agent. Jose got to be careful. Because you don't realize it but you're about to be boxed out. It's like Uber Drivers Right now. There's people listening to this podcast. Driving Uber thinking they got a sweet. The second UBER finds a way to drive that car without you. You are out of a job. Fam- you you probably four or five years if you plan on living more than four or five years if you're shit out figured out okay. So so the thing with the ages so I told him I was like you realize realized that they're slowly getting rid of you like they do all the promotion they have all the ticketing. They have everything you need ten percent you can handle the acts that do the comedy clubs but once you get to the expert theaters right. I could literally call up live nation tomorrow or ag or any of these companies tomorrow and just say hey Yeah I'm ready to go back on tour our. Yeah you just book all the things. Here's the thing though. You know some of those who live nation as other ones though. I have friends who go. Oh you have a tour while we want you to perform at our venues and they go. Here's a flat rate. We don't give tickets you sell. Let us promote it. You do your thing on your end but the flat rate. Thank me with that. And it's big money and Daiki agent. That's what I told my my Asian and I love my agent brought it to me. He brought the deal to me and I was like. What are you doing? But you gotTa do this. They wouldn't go direct to you though they could. I could go off. Fam- they offer me seven figures for one year of touring right and then when you break it up to the amount of shows and that kind of stuff you could see if it's worth at this that the other but what I'm telling my agent I'm like Eah you. You could do this like you gotTa do all this. I don't understand you're the only way you're agent shouldn't shouldn't be fired if they said let's say offered you three million to my agent. And he went back. We need five years. No No my age. You don't WanNa do. Yeah now. My agent turned a Y- yeah like He. He deserves it he he's in like he. He does a lot of like almost managerial stuff as well like. That's my partner. I look at my business. He's happy to be part of it. Happens to be part of an agent. He's definitely get fired but I'll take them. Yeah friend. We'll go to your system. Be revis agent where it's going right now. With all the PODCASTS. Everything is so niche. We have our following. We have all that kind of stuff. It's like like you'll have an agent handling your podcast right. No no not at all. I don't even know what my agency does. Every once in a while call him. You know this show looks Kinda cool hot ones. Yeah Yeah I WANNA check out hot. That one's and they'll be like all right. We're going to look into that. And then they do Jack Shit. Nothing you can't just call the fucking show so I eat the spicy chips chance. Okay based out of new. That's an easy one brody. Don't do any of these people do anything. That's that's what I realize about this whole business. Nobody does they is all incoming calls cruises. It's already agent is really like pitch and ship. He's just waiting missing a possible. Fourteen armed is a Tom. Hey Tom looks like this. They haven't figured out the missions pretty possible. Yeah You keep on doing it every single fucking dive. It is weird like you Wanna asked like the Monday through Friday nine to five only go. Yeah you email me. An offer from Cleveland broke the rest of the day. What would you say you we do for the rest of the day agents hustling my my Asian hustling the other ones like the mind? You know it because he's smart guy a very loyal dude who like sacrifice. I'm really ride or die from me. So that's important to me and if you have those guys you take care of them like real l.. Let Them Go. We're going to let them go teen like he's it's time I call my Bro Are we going to do it. I Don I love him I love him with you see. Do they do anything and like they're the same agency is Lebron. Have you met Lebron have you. Has he been on the podcast. pitchy right we represent Lebron. I'm like all right. Get Him on a podcast. Ask about that. It's like. Hey man no saying this shit. I would never depend on them to do anything like that. I would. I know warning orange juice. Not For the Hawk cast say you got to get a cup. Of course they're going to be like what the fuck you know. Lebron Lebron by. We don't see money for that. They were smart they would they would create that synergy. Yeah they were smart they would service every single thing. No my day should be and you ads. They should be getting you fucking cross promotional shit. What are they doing? What do they gain you just my horn? So the exacting anybody could do yeah. This is literally the phone call reading High Columbus funny bone. Hey remember what I saw the club. You want to do that again under. Okay see you next year Glenn per se. Yeah saved him. And it's not ten percent. This Salaam thing taxed no not even ten percent which brings you down on ninety right now. What is that of ninety? There's twelve and a half. Yeah so if you get you know what I'm saying. They ten dollars ninety dollars. Yeah they're making more than ten percent of what you make. You see what I'm saying is it's a lot of shit going to change. Go a lot of Confu- so we fire needed so not dude because you keep sell fire them but you tell me how great you're turning mine line into a fucking bullpen up and I'm coming over later. TJ No I think if you got guys this is what I think can evolve into. I think they're like we just all band together. This is what I think the real future will be. Is We all band together in an or like are never gonna like a network but like we are now but with no written agreement exactly group right so like me part of that group. I'm of course. Of course no. No absolutely I'll be. I'll do anything for you guys but like I meant like let's say there's like six of us right and we're all hitting the same clubs hitting the same theaters etc right. We can have one or two of our agents represent all of us right and book. The same theater runs for everybody. Yeah right and get the best rate because it's like Oh do you want it or not like you gave earlier this. Oh Hey delete. He's doing so shows he's GonNa come there. Yeah so salty elitist. CBS Rate but we need a lower. Because you get all of us or go to the competition right right. Yeah and then now. We're not fighting against each other. Uh and all these bullshit calls happened like I speak. You'll speak to the fucking venues in the promoting that country. They don't want to deal with agents now the hate them they want to deal with is like the one thing now do you. Don't WanNa take it like I don't WanNA call Are You the commission myself. What do you mean the commission? I'm saying I don't argue the rate myself or not that the them you don't be dealing with the numbers and all that shit to you. This is for you WANNA create dealing with other. This is the number. I'll pop you do you think he's like yeah. Click hey this is what it costs by L.. That's IT Kevin. Hart it might be a little tough son. We went through tough. We went through tough back in the day. When we're when we're we're trying to hustle fucking ass off for years ten years on the road grinding? Finding they don't say we because yeah you did it right. Yeah yeah me. I didn't do it right. You should have been doing hyenas in Fort Worth. Yeah six but I. I don't WanNa be lumped in with. We want to take on the same like that. That's fine that's fine so it's like I don't know. I think I think that you can do that. I think you could call them up. I think it's I think it's a lot more a lot easier than we think is strengthened numbers. I think so. I mean that's the whole thing that's the whole thing with unions and that Kinda Shit like people shit about shit on unions and you know make it all the sense in the world. Here's the thing that I'll get when people shit on unions because it's the exact equal and opposite reaction to billionaire right. The billionaire Maher uses. They're they're paying power. Essentially they own the business and they could pay all these people whatever they want because if they don't accept the job then they won't have a job at all they have on the market if you own the Walmart and some little town that's the only spider widow Shannon do exactly right so the only equal and opposite reaction to the billionaire is if all the people who work come together and they go now we want this money. Yeah now both of them are bad. Busy extreme version of both of them are I bet. The extreme version of the union makes it so that the business can't make any money the stream version of business makes it so that people can make a middle hopeful you negotiate and having middle ground. What I'm saying saying is we should just make all the goddamn money? Fuck them until they figure it out of should firearms aged. Know what I'm saying is let's get. Let's get the levers that we never had like right now. We're in a unique time in history man comics ever had leveraged. I like now we got the fucking levers like you know how badly I wanna I wanna just not only do. I want us to do that but like I got my my young bucks I wanna put on the road. You know what I mean. I want to put mark on the road. I WANNA I WANNA do put Martinez on the road. He's on the road with me but also problem but but I want to actually have him be if I eventually on the road by himself. Well that's yeah well that that that that game's going on since the fucking sixties where he does the open up for you So he opened up for you. You're in front of thousands of people. Yeah he they. Oh we like dyke guy mark and then you say market and then you build audience. Yeah I mean there's that what else would you do. You have him in two guys. We don't know headline no but what I will do as this has happened back in the day. Like let's say I'm coming to a club for whatever reason and I'm just coming Friday Saturday so I say hey headline him Thursday. I just do that San Jose so there you go. You're already doing it. Are you doing that right. I mean giant theaters. It's different is different is different if we if we do a club we're doing specifically typically for reps will also just love the club like a club comic. I grew up in New York man. Like I like talking to the crowd like I like I just I like that intimacy so so but I think there's cool as where we could do this man like man but also with your with your youtube channel stuff. You're doing with that. You can highlight mark work in the boys before they get in jerked off in my bathtub. I let him stay in you know. I didn't know that's where only fans it says. Only fans bro only fans owners. Jack La this guy is he is like so fucking primal aimal with his shit. He's actually smart kid you're a guerrilla. He's a fucking gorilla right. It's twenty four. Why are you lying you get la you start lying about your fucking starlet? Twenty three twenty four years already. We could break. Where's Steve speeded? Young as fun so these guys say you could stay in my apartment. WOM Gone Right. I come back from my apartment and there are there as gelatinous. She's bubbles on my bathroom like it's one thing to don't say you didn't do it more talking nuts. He jerked off in my bathtub and didn't have the fucking fucking balls or the respect to foot it down now. He is very small fee. Maybe he missed it but he didn't he didn't just go like this and a granite and just get it go through the drain. So we're like fine. He learned his lesson. We disrespected everybody on. The road knows him. Should go jerk off Schultz's tub right. Everybody knows he learned his lesson right. Alex Alex does all video stuff. Right Martin job team now as well but Alex fucking killing it trying to copy. Yeah they should. Everyone's trying to copy they should they not. You're you're like you're like Rogan has Jamie everyone copy Jamie or chin. Everyone's trying to copy Alex sick sick out. They tried to simplicity his way. I'm sure I can find some the office so added a porn or some shit with these hoes is on the road. You'd be so so we just we just got this new studio back. You gotta come check the studio back in. Are you out of fucking town. We'll we'll make apple pie but So we just get this new studio right right multiple studios for podcast live performance based. We'll do some live shows projector. TV's fine watch games all ships in a good spot Yeah Yeah Yeah it's in it's in Brooklyn it's dope man. It's fucking so cool and took a six months to fucking built out right like audiovisual teams like fucking painting painting. It was crazy what we did. It was just unreal and This is all you your team use associated with us and And and Alex likes walks in right. I mean we had. This is the first day we're about to record the PODCAST whereabouts report flare into for the first time in the studio we walk in Alex walks in and mark is shut the fuck up to shut the fuck up okay. The you asked for this okay. Mark is Sitting on the couch right and this is the weird thing. His shoes and socks were off his shoes and socks are offering from are oh you from La mark from Florida. Now it makes sense. Doesn't it make sense okay. That'd be my second guess shoes and socks off right God. That's getting now out walks in doesn't think about it right. He goes he goes he goes. Okay what's where you don't even think about it like Oh what's up mark okay. I got here earlier. Something like that. He walks past a turns. Turns around and looks at the TV and mark is ferociously fixing the apple. TV remote like get off the new screwy Rudy. Oh this fucking gorilla cannot help himself but tomorrow territory territory. Was He sleeping. Say what was sleeping. No Oh that's the crazy thing you already did you say the night there. Yeah did you say the night. Talk all lines up. Do you get your fucking place. He got up early. Twenties hundred. Eighty subways twenty three off twenty three jacket. He's twenty five all right. He's twenty nine years old. This is an old uh now it gets a little creepy twenty four twenty three I celebrated so no for real man. It's just you know it. It was a tough thing. It's a tough thing you know. Let's just say you gotTa do marches whacking all over the floor of the studio dude. It's a crazy world. That's that's when you bring on the road. Yeah Mark Opens for me on just him. Yeah just sometimes they'll have a local guy. Yeah yeah usually can get icy though can't it. That's the thing we can we can be. I feel like when it's dicey it's fun fun. Wins Dicey Yeah. It's just me I don't know I try. I bring it opener in a feature you bring both yes but for the long I would just roll the dice. I found it was kind of fun. You fly climb out and everything we'll see that's the thing is I already have. Also I'm flying guys out. I know we're always thinking we just gotTa Get out five minutes now folks on that video go out. We had AL do breath. I'll do one joke. We're in Tampa Tampa Improv. And we're GONNA do it for the money. We have video of. Drop it in series right and so we're GONNA TAMPA and we're like he'll al.. Just do a joke. I'll give you one of my old jokes hilarious right and You just go out there and do the job. It'll be a quick little misdirection to open up to open. The show brought him on twitter. In my set. During my sets everybody knows them like ours synonymous with me. So it's like he goes up. We stopped the show. He comes up. He goes uh-huh nervous but he was a front like he's was came on like. Yeah this is this is a joke and it's one of the first jobs I ever. Oh this is like twelve thirteen years ago and the joke was I like it when a girl talk dirty in bed. I just hate it when they repeat the same thing over and over again right like no right. So that's the a joke and I say I go. I say as I go listen. I'm going to set it up so they know it's a joke right because it's a harsh joke but I'm going to sentence I know it's a wrong. But here's the thing. Okay so we hold about very on. How long ago was this This is six months ago three months ago. I see oh come on for my house with the other ways you. It is time lights on steaks about raping bitches. Oh I just got dark real dark so it goes on. Stage comes over me and I go out you gotTa let before go out. You GotTa let me preface it. Because if it's such a great misdirection that they're gonNA laugh no matter what they're not GonNa care about the Ray Brandt but I don't explain that to him. I just go. Just let me preface it so he comes up and then he goes and I go I go now I just WANNA and he goes he goes. He looks not got this. I got this one onstage. Johnson was before I start. I go go practice purpose for the poor star. Egos you know what I hate. I hate when I well. I love him a girl I just hate it when they say the same thing over and over again another taking serious in this moment right because he's saying before I it's not a joke right and then he goes. You know like stop start. fucking corral is no clue was gonNA wait for my favorite part right Al says every second this covenant smile and he goes. That's not the in a row. We were crying for failure man. Would you be like damn maybe a little more about Dick Stop. Oh so funny man. Oh just slammed any of it. We nervous out the sweating man. Sometimes as openers are funny in Tampa is when you on a she she saw two years ago I just went by myself anyone. I just went to car. How quickly you have your member name of why? Yeah I remember. This was because because I did Palm Beach Orlando and Tampa and I rented I'd had feature nothing. I have the end of the drive around. Yeah so Tampa and it was theirs. Is the last stop Montoya. I'm tired. I'm in the back. I'm waiting waiting and the manager comes up because hey man so we got this female open up for a man and Dude it's kinda crowds so bro. We sometimes the females at be. So Oh good. Let's check out of your trust me. She'll be up for Delia. She's fantastic side. Takes Delia Dude. Do you remember Blah Blah Blah. How how was she in all capitals? He put horrible dude so yeah. So then he's the feature them see comes in these little little juice Geiger's what's up man. He's all sweaty. I'm like what's up dude. He goes not saying you're features. Acts Manch came here with fucking boyfriend. He Goes Dude Dude. I'm a fan if you try doing some shit where you help me out dude. I'm like what is happening. Fight and I go. Do Dodgers see at the show. So he goes back there. This girl walks in her. Man is I don't know six eight show tune jam like what is happening here. And she's all it's my fucking boyfriends or NC ex. He's so annoying. I'm like all right. So you guys out there like the MC goes out eats. All the Dick's doesn't do well brings out the feature. You're being like real caddies like everybody. Give fucking Janine. She's been she's alright. Hebrew give it up for God like half ass. She goes out cricket cricket's and she goes. Oh you know what. She's not fuck you guys she was. This is my sold out cogos. I've been doing Tommy me for twelve years Brennan for five fuck in weeks. Fuck you guys. I'M GONNA get my time beer bottle. Cool at a girly. The girl didn't hit her just onstage. They Start Buner but this Mitch does her. She gets her time in desert time and then go ended up goes fuck. y'All puts the Mike and I'm saying the backyard fuck us. Sorry Bro. Just walks off dude. I walked out. I the crowds Jan.. I go how about that bitch crazy. I can't believe he threw a beer bottle bitch shit shit at a woman. Was it a girl who through it. I don't know it had to be backstage. I'm like fuck. Can you have a piece of spit on your distract track whole story. I was watching earlier in the fucking rhythm. Hydrated pointed just connected. Both you had like a little like experience. The stories run store now to throw a bottle. Utah Dude This poor girl. I never understood when opening access access. You not came back good but you can't attack the crowd someone else's crowd. It's just bad. It's just bad business. Yes not your crowd it makes no sense than anything anything else you are getting you get to take advantage of that crowd. I'm doing you favor it is. It is an amazing opportunity like work material and like you get twenty twenty minutes right with zero expectations. How could you come back It was. It's fun though story Tampa's good temps get tempted. Good City Yeah. We did Tampa because it's like a theater it's Filton and sold school. It's EBOR. Is Zoe. Believe Yeah Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes not fuck with Tampa chickens on the screen shit and then there's then there's Then there was times when openers were you like do like twenty year vets. And they've been they just they have these fifteen twenty minutes that will set the fire. And they'll go out there and I looked at the mantra goat buffalo. Like how. How would you not headlining? Yeah the fucking staple center. And he's like Oh papa he's been doing the same twenty the last eighteen years never. He only just twenty-one he'll eat shit you only has those twenty and that's it never change them. Yeah and they're monsters. They're great guys. Yeah they're monsters but their dads and they might be workout fucking. You know that starbucks ship. But they've had this twenty that is fucking and fire show interesting to tell kids to move to tell like guys open free on the road advice. Yeah conference three weeks one advice. Yeah yeah interesting to to move to. LA or New York. I think you'd have to kind of do something to get going. I wonder if you have to do because I think you need to see what your what kind of animals you deal with. Gotcha I if I'm just in Orlando. Florida bad comedy. Yeah but they're not so if you're the local clubs you you know full of bad comedy spot. He hasn't masturbated in it his inject off. That's the only bills the only place yet if you just Orlando you like pretty funny man you. Yeah I mean can check online in person you you come the comedy story. Come the IMPROV. The factory or New York Library. Oh Shit and you watch like guys work on on Shit like delays work on it. Now you watch like well. That's better than anything I got. I've been drying years. Yeah he just wrote that last night. Yeah so it's good to you know I think it's good to you. See we're out in the pecking order. Yeah I agree with that and the hustle. I agree with that. You're not GonNa see the hustle you just see the finished product but you see the hustle out here. He deleted I keep using. He's he's at the concert every night every night. Yeah Yeah I agree. I agree with that. I agree with that part where it's like if you wanna see how funny you are and you want to be motivated to get funnier. Funnier you go where the funny people are. And they're not in your hometown hundred percent on your home town but also you can like you can pick the brain hundred. Yeah you could see what they're but I don't subscribe to the idea like you have to go to New York or La to get on television to make it. Like I think that you can. I think that you can make it locally. You'd have to have the discipline to get better. Like I used to say when I was on the road to get to the second fifteen minutes that works and it's fire fifteen minutes. You just move to New York and now I'm like upload to Youtube now not only uploads youtube I'm like what is your project like. What are you doing like? What is your the thing that should already have been started before you go like what is your show? What is your dealer? podcast you do some straight to the fucking camera a stuff on stand up again. It's like when you go to New York. You're going to be working a fulltime job. Like you're GONNA be working way more than you are doing. Stand up like right now at home. Um You probably live with your parents or your living with a bunch of roommates and got you pay two hundred dollars a month rent like now you have. You have free time to do stuff and create content. If you're not doing that here you're not GonNa do that when you go through so I grew to like the skill level. If you WANNA if you wanna see what the elite guys doing see where you have to go you have to go to where they are. But you're not to no less you see him again. That's what Chapelle special you just watched especially just lecture special. Yeah it's like Oh yeah. He's doing standard thing. You gotta see the Hustle man you gotta see it. It says you're Navarin even remotely the right moves. There's just so much that you can do so much you can do at home now as well. That's I guess what I'm trying to say it used to be. You can still any do it. Learn all that Shit. That's what we always tell. These comics figure out what you WANNA do. Learn all that shit like there's so much you can do from home in so mainly you can connect with these guys for home. That's how I met mark. We're in Orlando Yeah. He opened for us on the road and he's reached out he started to help how `bout clips and are kind of cool and then he was funny. We were like Oh come on the road this dope but that's that can happen. That's a very feasible thing if you offer value hundred percent yeah I don't know I just figure there's young comics listening to this and maybe they could get some keeps them current events. Sure let me take this before. Do Damage deepest eighth. I'm okay I did it. 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Hiatus and Nikki Glaser was actually in there and it was tough. She was on a show talking about how she thought he was too skinny Guinea. Liz Oh it was in a much older interview. And she ended up actually posting a photo wearing Taylor swift. Smerch Ert apologizing for it. You don't want them swifty. After you but she got she got the coast sign. I saw this girl about this. That's how I know is and She basically apologized apologized and said that whatever she said in that interview was projection of what was going on in her life. She apologized Taylor. Swift cy in actually reached out to her old school. I like He. You Know Nikki. I do not great. Yeah Yeah yes. That's a nice little As a nice that's a nice clout chase right there appreciate. There's so much one of the major things that we have ability to change over time grow. I'm so sorry to hear that you struggle with some of the same things. Abstract with sending massive hug Hashtag check none of my fans buy tickets to her show. That's cool. Did you say there will be one soon. So goddamn powerful. Yeah I mean beyond say in the I think the called the beehive. Yeah they'll shut your shit down. Yeah Yeah Yeah Watch autry PS and QS and beyond set the Taylor Swift. Maybe she was right maybe she was skinny. I mean didn't tell us but hold on until associate was battling yeah disorder. She used to be a size double zero and now she's a size six in the documentary. I was just saying that like the more she saw photos of herself the more she realized that she didn't like the way she looks so she just slowly kind of stopped so Mickey Glazer's right. So she yes she skinny. You look the photos you agreed. You Change Your Life Policy for Nikki. This saved her favorite singer Nicky. This thing Nikki's bodied up to. That's why the Nicholas degree. But here's a yeah. Why are we upset about is like fascinating some fat or skinny shaming? Like if you're saying too skinny this would you say to skinny. It's shame if you say someone's too fat. Shame your both of them are just pushing aimed towards the direction of health. They're also observations right like when when if someone they five plus a patriots fan but the Guy Day million fattest fuck shop. You don't nothing. My ass is on the bike late afternoon. Motivated fucking motivated still thinking shit but doing deliveries Mexican ass. Doug Fachet word You've roughing off Adobo you've always been skinny You just stay thin not a flip a fucking Combo. Good our sued sued. I like professional bra now yet. Refined sugars thin anyway. Yeah I'm a little Thin Otter dock. The you went to Egypt right dude. Did you eat carbs there. I did dude. The food sucks in Egypt but also new shipton but yes shit shit like I put no shit. Now you've been there for six thousand years you can figure fuck and food nother named something they've invented. There's nothing the pyramids well. That's how I know the aliens. It's not aliens but it's not them. It's probably White Dude's might've been white guys like the British will have to Komo bogus from London. It was a gaffe real. No there's no way like everything about that shit the pyramids it just blew my fucking mind every most impressive thing I've ever seen in my life. Wow our really like I literally your the the parents do. They're kind of small. It was shit. There's a McDonald's out front when people have shit on the pyramids almost. Yeah I know it's GonNa name Somebody Cowan for shirts no way Dad was doing operation. We taken now now. I've never heard great things about the pyramids voice they're overrated. But you love them. They're the most underrated thing I've ever seen in my entire life. They are the most miraculous questions your idea of reality. It makes you question reality. You're watching in live. You were questioning. How could this happen? Like I don't even think about human progress aggress the same way after looking at the payroll. Wow this how I think the pyramid happened. I think there was some humans they built the pyramids. They developed these cool to technology. That allowed them to to do it. Those humans died out and because we didn't live in this global society where everybody knows what's going on when you died. So did all your technology. Oh Yeah you can't tweet out right. So then another group of humans thousands of years later the one that we call the Egyptians now they pull up they see some dope shit and they're like Yo that's hours because you would claim whatever's your hundred percent every group that walked on it just claimed that the Greeks the Romans Jews anybody who pulled up on it was like yeah. We made that that was us. That's our people but there's no way fucking hell any humans. They're the you the the you know. I think we just say alien when we don't know how things happen in our reality and that's what I'm talking question reality like these fucking things. The bricks ricks themselves are so massive. There's no way in hell. You can move those bricks and you know that. They didn't get those bricks from that place from like seventeen kilometers away it across the river with them. Like there's always insane ships spec this white suspect you know what makes something a civilization a group of people illumination writing. Bright that is is what made the Egyptian civilization right at the Higher Hieroglyphs. Yeah so how do you write about everything but how to build that. That's why they say aliens though. Even if aliens did it they would write. Dalians did it. And I know someone's GonNa pointed a hieroglyph where they're like alien looking. No you go in detail about how those fucking Galions you went to Detroit. Would you WANNA detail how you clean fucking corn but you're not gonNA detail and how you build this. There's nothing here. The idea that they say the Jews built it absolutely bullshit because if you look at the Old Testament they go into detail about how to build a temple. It'd be the the. The cloth has to hang two centimeters. There's it's like such specific minute details. Bill temperatures. Not how to no writing whatsoever. Nobody else replicates it and what you see this shit in Mexico parts of the world stacked up raw son. That's what it is but at one point in time it was perfectly flat. Oh chipped away at it over years using it to make weapons etc just was perfectly straight you. There's a mockup of what they're supposed to look back in the day so we had him on dollar bills too. Well because that's strange. Now the masons the people who basically created America Erica. They were inspired by the Egyptians. And they think they're like philosophy. Is that every once in a while. Yeah this is what they thought this is what they look like back in the day. Perfectly flat white. You try them Luke Ser and that's what it looked like. They got that idea when you're supposed to be white. Limestone son was perfect white limestone. That's what it's made out of six thousand years you've got a little rust should dern dude. I'm telling you it is you cannot. You cannot imagine it now it. I'll look at the pictures. Pictures looks pretty sweet. Here's the ACIS north African like motherfucker Bro. Now we're dealing with fucking corona virus from from these two right like what the that's the big issue right now. I'd have to put everything in the soup. You can't make soup without bats Guy Istat wounds. Let's be us when you see because I know neither of your Chinese when you see the Chinese do Chinese shit right like put a bat and soup do you. Are you like Ugh. Now we gotta deal with this as Asians absolutely before especially but isn't fucking annoying were Asian. But that's annoying now. It's not you guys now. All right I know you know what I'm saying trestle it's like it's on you. It's like every time a terrorist happens. All the Muslims are gonNA fuck. Hey now we gotta deal with. Dissidents taste say China's like Asian Isis in a way in a way there's a bat hanging in the soup like get some fucking Jacuzzi. cousy bath Asu like this. Yeah it's great and you don't think it's going to cause some Kuroda but look at it is he. was He legs he looks like a date. Yeah Louis that bitchy Deborah Low. Against of course you're you'RE GONNA get fucking corona virus from this man. Other Promise Chin was. Is You create so much traffic. That's Blah we'll probably can't dry. Oh my God yes dude. Video awesome awesome posted. This with Bobby Lee chairs the guy literally fucking chicken dude. It was insane. Like he's sticking his dick inside a check I didn't even know chicken that Pussy Blur Free Man. Yeah it's just banging fucking bat. No it's not cool. No He's not he's a bat and he's in soup that's not where bats are supposed to be definitely flee not. It's frightening but that's the thing but you know last time. We saw some positive from the Chinese in the American media. Do you guys got the krona virus pop and right now and the fucking bats in hot tubs. Ause they're saying this a PR spin y just saying we never posted anything positive on the Chinese. What we we get the phones from them? Damn that's good your shirt. It's a bit my sneakers. There's lots of positive things we never in the media. Never pop like check out the Chinese making all these sneakers made in China. It says it right on it. Reebok's on well. Maybe they're made somewhere else you have. This might be by you. The last show ooh coming through man. Where's your virus? I'm not sure way. No but it is a fucking it is a thing so you're saying it's a complete complete. Pr Spin so we have like a negative view of China. I'm just saying when every time it hits the news it's always negative shit well that's the PB pas about here though you know Bro. Aren't they harvested organs or some shit. Listen I'm sure. There's a lot of Nice Chinese people to Brian to land in Mexico. Are they violating Mexico. And you would be upset about that. Because they're taking your country. Do all his Mexican Brendan Schaub. Who Do we have to? We have to talk about it. Talk show China's. How do how do you non-chinese Asians view the Chinese be honest? Now I'll be honest because I know I've been out there be honest. I think I think most people would say if you've been around. Chinese people not cannot all hot racist tate from let's go. This is good racism and Asian. I think that's why I'm asking him because they know the answer that I'm already know the answer. The question that I'm asking is trying to find a way to Hollywood itself surrounded. Listen some might come off as a little bit. You know rude eating batty rude. Yeah so not not not favourable. Asians don't really love the Chinese. I don't know how much hatred let's be honest here. We'll say for Vietnamese people. Generally vermes people can't stand Chinese people. Thank you so the what would what's that equivalent willing to in America What would we can't stand honestly? I don't know if we know enough other countries to care while sane but has been about being Americans. We do not give a fuck like everyone else's shit. I don't think we like or hey we're just like you're there so that we can have the Olympics every four years other than that in America like like is there. Anyone who America's like what would be. We don't have beef with anybody it's over it's done. It's you lost X. Skins we love News we love everybody mega we own it. Everybody's killing but as far as your country goes opponent it. We're not going with that. There's no like who who we beat them with realistically. Globally Russia are we. Oh fucking Iran. Dude they did they fucking ran bro. I mean that's no problem. No smoke broiled. They thought they wanted to smoke right. They knocked on the door of an embassy. We took out there number two. That's what happens do you. Did you see the book boys. That's what happened exactly clean. Oh you definitely know watch this cartoon but rick and Morty. There's a cartoonist any cartoon talk classic you know this is different grownup. Oh cartoon it's the funniest cartoon of all time when all these fucking emmys thing where You don't see the Ricky Moir goes you son of a bitch. I'm in Oregon when when we're about to go to war with Iran he said Germany's right now. Like you said a bitch always always they learn their lesson before you son of a bitch ride with us on the lineup. You son of a bitch. I'm in this one. Yeah that's what happens. They fuck with the boys Bro. You WanNa WanNa get you WanNa get our frogs loose. Joe That means that's navy seals. I thought thousand new disease from these visa. It hasn't it of course no but do the frogs could all. I'm saying released the frogs I was. I was on Hyena talking about this but it drove me crazy that week. You had all these just fucking hipsters talking about like geopolitical takes right and there'll oh don't poke the bear. Don't poke the bear. We're the bit where the fuck and we're the a bear. The Otter the bull the pup were the Chubby bear bro. We should because a Chubby bear bear. So now we are. We're big grizzly. Yeah we're ready for the Non Nano Nano. Nobody wants this smoke. I'm just saying you have Chinese active. Hold my fucking back. Here's dude that's the thing like people think you China could take us out in a nuclear weapons. Here's the thing it would be problem love. Russ 'cause Russia's fucking with Russia China's got out thinks every chinatown in America sleeper cell for China. I'll believe can you believe that he feels at any point in time. They snap their fingers and then all of a sudden they start attacking us. Let's let's ask the Asians thoughts thoughts. There's just got some shit organized. Crime for sure organized crime. But that's not like direct connector to China to try how many people have so many more people it'd be problems and would it be prompted we. We would beat them but it would be K.. Texas takes China alone nobody else just Texas but just access all against any other country in the whole world and it's easy seven game series. We sweep it for zero. I'm not even a question. How's doing MERICA? What else you got? Grab your fucking nuts okay. So did you guys see the Super Bowl. Halftime show. Yes when WHO's Otter Jaylo Shakira Shakira era by a million fucking miles close chamberlain was wearing a fucking Naxi pad during her entire performance. You see that the wings were flapping out decides hides little. I couldn't even look at her. Ovaries you root for. Because you have to understand what's going on okay. I'm in a relationship all right so ed what I'm thinking I'm not you guys are thinking about J.. Lo you're thinking about legacy you're thinking about all these nothing about busting nuts doggy style. Fix GonNa make the nuts bus. Did you see Shakira's here is hips telling the truth. I'll give you that. I started until the truth all that. Shake boom pop pop pop pop. So tiny amy Bro. That's the allow. Oh Yeah Oh yeah. She went for it. She went for. Now here's the thing that's the thing shit wasn't good. You know who she was talking to fucking Isis Bro nine. I really was about to be a terrorist attack at the super. Ball's not alway. This jail had on that thick makeup. Didn't look J.lo's stunning stunning on the fucked up. I think era readers got her on some shit because she wasn't like this before Aaron Aaron He Irada Chubby Bowl these days. He's Sally Chowdhry Alex. Alex Azar it'd be in the face. Now Yeah he might might be a little Chubby. Within my point is this Shakira for one. Fuck one night of fucking look at the hip thing. You're not going to experience that anywhere else. You're not gonNA experience that anywhere else. You don't have any big dudes jail has fucked. Go through the list Ben Affleck. PDD fucked everybody drake so when your banking should care what guy she's holstered. Oh yes why. Why because I'm a freak? So you're banging and you're like fucking diddy within here like being duty like the same cars so if if diddy took I I wanna take you I I see. Now that's weird. I don't WanNA think about anyone. I'm having sex. I just okay time I think about diddy sex Sachs's while I'm looking at Greenwich we'll take take take take take take. Take the old heads let's look at Shakira Dude. The way she. She moves her hips. And it doesn't work in the pictures in the pictures. You'RE GONNA look Jaylo but when you look how it's about the way she moves. The I agree. It's not even like you're talking talking about a unique sexual experience with that one girl on the left. It is a truly unique trance. She's the hips are moving like crazy. It's GonNa be a different different thing. Your Dick Never experienced that in your life Jaylo beautiful girl a thousand of hers. I mean you could get you right. Centene the Dick and better than any other. Go from the Bronx. I don't Know Oh Carter beats from the Bronx Right. You think Cardi can't take it down one Jaylo one hundred on in that courtroom courtesy of Cardi Run for our money. Shakira right there. That Columbia. Mommy it's not a kind of a trump right now. Let's do a little bit like keep going. Okay if you've got any gifts or any movement of the hips you would see what's going on you just going to lay on your back you don't do you lay okay on your back. You give Kiara the whole night with her on top. You don't even try to fuck on top. You Lay on your back. And then she goes to work all night. It's not about lazy. It's about you giving her that back. You're right dude. But you gotta let her work. I mean it's just different. She's just tiny so look doc. Look General there's no meat on either one of them they're super skinny. Jalen has a little bit the take off the other thing. Hey here's the other thing what's the did titties city's not become cool anymore. Everybody flat chested these. That's true you like some you like some jugs I like like huge. The solve is really four years old. I thought a big who attorney. It's like it's like fuck man like like fucking Beth Chapman like Doug about eight hundred tits chats such reverence dude but like titties cool anymore. Well what would you rather have. Would you rather either have. I personally. Don't need it's like I want proportion body but I don't want flat flat chests cake. Oh yeah yeah I like him so I like some cake and and if you got a little teddy that's fine that's extra extra little titties extra cities none. Yeah you don't WanNa make like the fart sound when you're on top of. Yeah now I think there's this conic named Daniel Simonsen. He's so fucking funny this kid. He's from Norway but he performs at the cellar and he has his great joke about his chest is concave. It's so funny man. This kid is so good anyway. Well she'll look look look at the back to back go back to that. Watch the shake and you tell me who you want. Look at Jaylen struggling Carlos trouble jail all fifty years right look like she fallen fallen down after looking that tape. That's not even question the playback I mean look at that. Oh Oh my goodness cry. I'll be okay. I'm bored all right. What's next with With either go ahead The sure so yesterday video was posted with G.. eazy kissing up on MEG. The stallion and everyone is super upset. Why because I I don't know why but also his girlfriend fuck them other fuck the Suit Erin J.. Lo Look at meg the stallion you like that. That's what you like doing that. She so fine. 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Is that her on the right right there. That's a well. That's a bad picture. Come on help me out here here. Well her dad's black shoes complaining online. Find about they have no shampoo for black people in hotels. Like this bitch ass on nerve and then I found her dad's Oh she's mixed. Yeah I see but she's by now this week. Is there any straight girl. There's just one hundred percent straight. I Dunno it's like so cool to be by these days. And what does that exist. I don't know in the entertainment entertainment. Hollywood exist everybody's morale open about it. I mean Levada everybody's anybody that's just one hundred percent straight. That's a girl. Do they feel like they could be comfortable being straight URS news. If offensive won't make you won't get headlines and who'd I celebrate elaborate Halsey and we'll let them she wants to do you know yeah. I mean she's cool. I guess I don't know that. Yeah she makes some good tunes. I like how the music just you're depressing though do you. You like your cat Every now and then I guess that's a No. That's a no more her that Chinese I'm gonNA policy took a second okay. She's about though with us. How many more you want one more more Let's do this one. Then you on. Musk has an idiom soundtrack. Hey but just be a billionaire but just shut your fucking mouth row make electric cars and be ability dude. Ilan do make make more flame. Throwers so we can buy and fuck around. Here's a question less music more flame. Throwers can we listen to the song. Let's just here to a tiny bit of it now. The hot track. And we're GONNA hate on exactly and you got all the money to get the best equipment equipment also producers etc did DJ Khalid. And that's his vocals to okay. GimMe a second okay. This euro shit terms that burn event. Okay he's a little late to the game with this. But don't doubt your vibe now. He's somehow hacking us with this or like absorbed. Feel comfortable looking at it. I don't feel feel comfortable him in studio dude nap but get us to the moon. Fuck your hot John. Stop it with this moon. Shit Bro. You don't WanNa go the move. There's nothing there we know. There's nothing there. What about Mars? No why are we spend all this money to go to places where we know nothings air. We took pictures of it. Going Zona Right. It's like we know it's just going to be desert. What are we doing here at of idea? It's it's a stupid goal but I think they're just using it to get crazy money from the gove so he can fund all this other shit she that Chinese billionaires trying to fly some date with them to the fucking moon no like a robot or something showing a date to go to Mars or some shit. I think it's the Japanese dude who invented wanted the program by any Chinese Dam Dam signed. That's fucked up roads. Fuck Ktar Betterman. Jeez that it. I'm sorry guys. There's a serious one but I don't talk about. Jay Z. Not Standing any up for the whole I saw that I didn't see it. Let me see. Did it stand for the National Anthem National Anthem. It just might saying you WanNa district flag just where else. Yeah yeah so that's when Demi singing and their families just sitting down but hold on hold on basically everyone else. He's the he's the he's the connect yes to the culture for black people the NFL. Yeah he's the one who's supposed to be the copper nick's right hand man. He got cabinet the workouts and all that Shit and cabinet posted. This thought. We were past kneeling though. Yeah so just posted on his instagram. So now capper nick is going apt beyond say and Jay Z. So are we sure that they actually sat during the anthem. Or did somebody take a picture of them sitting and then put it over the anthem to create some conference possible knots. Could they not stand for some weird reason like beyonce as dress or ashes blown out. I don't know but I mean most likely were sitting during the anthem. So the reason why this is the reason why this is stupid. Wine is because he said I thought were passing kneeling and to you know the cost of that so every decision you make when you're in public as a celebrity you are aware of especially when you're an event of this magnitude. You know that you're on camera. So every decision you make is calculate so if it was hypothetically if they did set during the national anthem they wanted people to noticing during the differences. They so you want it now. That's a PR move exactly. So if you want people to know Dan J. I don't know if you're in the right position to go to get to go to capture nick. Now we're not neil name for my feeling really might yeah cap. It's like do something to but do something broke right. You not out there. He's not giving any sort of nine. He May. He gave a lot of money. gave a million away like he's he's been about it Katzman about it. The tricky thing was was him trying to be in the league again. Like that's one owner understand is like if this league disrespected you. League did with all the shit that hold on hold on he he's a he gave a million oi. But you make a year from Nike and he give a million dollars of his own money away like just cash. A lot of money wrote ship for him doing this this well. Well the Nike Contract Biba. Here's a new contract to them. He's making more money now than it was playing football see. I don't know if that's true you don't think so. I don't know I don't think he is man. I really don't Oh I think that's why he wants to play. Because at the end of the day there's a love the game there's also a lot of money comes in a game. I think he's more about will not plan. I think he is value to the cause. Not playing but I think if he makes it about him playing distracts attracts on the issue which he's trying to raise awareness for an as far as like the anthem thing. It's like my thing is so little is just such a little thing like you. Don't have to join the military in America. You don't have to go to basic training. There's literally no cost of being American right like you pay taxes. If you make enough money but you get to live in the best place in the whole world you get the most opportunity to do whatever the fuck you want being an entertainment sports whatever the whole world has to come here you do outside of soccer to like make money at whatever they wanna do entertainment or sports or these types of things that the whole you already grandfathered into a Novi nothing and then the cost is like be cool. Just stand end up for the anthem. We're not even asking that you'll have to join the army like in other countries where it's mandatory service literally. If if they made a rule that was just like hey. Can you just stand up for anthem. Don't disrespect the flag. I'll tell you gotta do. A lot of people. were making the argument that it wasn't disrespectful to the flag because Cap App asked the guy who's in the navy or the marine. What was the best way to go about this? And the guy was like want you to take a knee because the need is like a sign of acknowledging it but I don't I'm trying trying to raise awareness about doing. The whole thing is confusing. If you want to boycott the police than you do that at the police station you don't do that at the NFL like it's just. You want to boycott brutality. But then you're going to do it at the sport that's the most brutal Jesus so many things conflation ship. It's also like Jay Z.. If you don't agree with their agenda whatever then fills don't go to the game you WanNa fuck in doing all the ship for it. I let him. I don't even think it's real. I don't know who knows and not only they do. I don't think I think it's it's now. You gotTA know motherfucker standing. No they know. I don't know if that's real fast oceans. I can't a fats real because like back here. And he went out on a limb like when he went said publicly. Were passing when he said that public. That was a Burgh statement. He got a lot of flack for you. Got A lot of flack for it. So I don't know I don't know I I need more facts. But if she blew out address arousal you like beyond say I love you. Yeah music like what she looks about the voice voice. Sure like to talk to cigna me. Yeah no not singing talking. She is really deep voice when you went to that I'm into her. You're like grow. The deep voice amended beyond with a deep voice. You'll put up with the divorce because what was it comes. I'll put up with some shit to be beyond. Okay okay thank you my brother. That's how I feel how we you can go for a while. It was pretty lonely to me. All right dude be cool. General Yellow Films Dude. Tam Bro on hard the golf on Chin real quick hands on auto broker. CHECKOFF on the floor. Are you doing any dates of your special Yes what do you mean by that me and are you do it like Whoa. It's not the Hebrew. Of course you're doing yes. We're way every weekend preparing for one hundred percents Deandra shows dot com also. We've got a few of the show for anybody listening in La in La. Yeah got hope I'm intensely and come to love ain't shows Easter weekend. You're up. I don't know when is Easter weekend in April eleventh and twelfth. If I'm here I if I'm down going to a WII this week I don't know if this will be out by then. Uh Hawaii this weekend. This be out by. This isn't New York. This is out today. Brill Damn Son. Well I'll why Abra House he foods come. Come down to the show suits shoes. Drive your Tacoma have you have you been down there yet. I've been to Kawai and I've been to Honolulu. You performing coyle quiet. Yeah Yeah that was my first time. We just went surfing. I grew up surfing so I can't. I went to a Wider Group Surfing New York here so you grew up boogie boarding. There's no ways surf. Dog I come on the world. There's no really having served Malibu into the big boys shit. Yeah J. Beach Attention. Yeah I served in Kobe right. That's north shore. What's up Bro? I didn't do North Shore Brown off Dude. That shit was sure as Shit Shit. Yeah Yeah for real but now always try to serve wherever wherever by the water timing moved. La Really Am. I began to. Oh Yeah I loved love to go serve on board and shit. I haven't gone probably four years though. It's kind of like golf. You GotTa do it. Yeah You just don't try surfing. It's such a Bee's really funny is that I have my own board. and She just taking people's boards love. You don't want that Bro. You ran embarrassed to carry my born people like are you paddle board and like now. You're a big boy. It's big all right dude. Go See Andrew in Fuck in Hawaii. I'd love to go out there. I'm just I don't know it'd be fun. Bring the FAM- in San Antonio this Thursday Friday Saturday Valentine's Day Weekend Ontario Improv. That's for Valentine's Day Vancouver. Jeff fell comedy festival. One show only one hundred hundred tickets left. I'm doing the folk theater and being so nice. We did that. I'm excited for that. One then I close February Tacoma and then marched theater on Chicago Atlanta New Orleans. TORONTO DETROIT MINNEAPOLIS. Get your tickets. Dot Com probably. Are you doing Chicago. Google where where does the Bulls play not good for you dude. Thanks dude appreciate dude. Thank you love and do shots everybody. This kid route.

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Sports Talk with Junior 10/19/20

Best of The Steve Harvey Morning Show

06:26 min | 10 months ago

Sports Talk with Junior 10/19/20

"What's it like to drive the Volvo xc ninety plug in hybrid? The thrill of four hundred horsepower t eight twin engine. The joy of, impromptu travis. and. Serenity. Of Electric. Power in. Pure. Eko Mode. visit. DMV Volvo retailer today to experience the xc ninety recharge plug in hybrid for yourself. Hi, I'm Mary Ross and I'm a new podcast called bikes, juice reports with so much going on around the world. So many people telling you they have the definitive take on the you we bring you to the news so you can hear it yourself from the newsroom that has earned more emmy nominations than any other news team. This podcast goes where the story is from conflict zones to the labyrinth of digital life. You've never traveled quite like this get the vice news reports podcast on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Alright Junior. If here, we got to cheer him up. He's a little down day sportstalk junior. Junior don't cheer me up. Team need a win they. Go. To. See. The Houston. Texas. All Houston team. You. Sit Astros all yes. Just put this plea out here right now. We're looking for of coach who can count. Any coaches? Eight, we'd like to offer you a job if you will little Pop Warner football coach and you got a win record will take you. If you roll. Coach, soccer, chess, teen anything you're winning. You can count you got a job and he's laroque matic. To you understand numbers of people who beat beating you let somebody wearing the number twenty, two follow. If you just follow twenty two, you could say that you could get a job. No one understands what you talk. To the Houston Texas, lost by eight. Okay we lost. We just need a coach can count to. With the winger. because. He'll understand the different I just let people know. But in other news is sports somebody who actually want somebody who wants yes. There is a new lightweight boxing champion of the World Twenty three Oh two, female Lopez beat but similar Lubchenco in a twelve round fight it the MGM in love. Vegas I, know you saw it on Saturday Oh yes. In. One. Money. Man. Wants something. Top Tamimi out. I'm well, let's take a listen to Lopez after the fight saying everybody wants to be like me what. Everyone wants to be like mayweather in order to be like mayweather you gotta be like pretty boy I. You gotTa Fight Those guys that they don't think you'll win. You GotTa fight the likes of those guys that are undefeated and is a good fight in order to make those type of millions that people WanNa make why are you buying so many chains and all this at a early age you're not making. Making a dollar so I'm you know I'm I'm just thankful I'm able to be the first one to do that and push for the for the young ones out there. Okay that's what you buy. All these chains for us. We want. You may be five, thousand five. What did we wisdom? That's May. Now I'm just saying you know he making the money and you can get twenty million dollars fighting. Now he champ net I was changing. Well, this would have been. This would rank up there with fury wild in terms of Tintin's. Did this was this rules. Yeah. That's high despite. Thank you junior coming up at the top of the hour get ready for comedy roulette with the Fellas right after this you're listening to. Morning Show. fighting I'm Mary Ross and I'm hosting in New podcast called vice news reports with so much going on around the world and so many people telling you they have the definitive take on the screen we bring you to the news so you can hear it for yourself from the newsroom that has earned more emmy nominations than any other news team. This podcast goes where you can't. Dusted? Justice bring you along to where it's all happening since third suspect. Willy. Of this evening is just the beginning of the night from conflict zones. That isn't a fun time. These guys are just firing rockets more. To the labyrinth digital life, I'm not a conspiracy theorist I'm a conspiracy realist where Minneapolis Minnesota right now in the middle of a protest open George Floyd. You've never travel point like this. Get the vice reports podcast on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Feeling lost than we've got the PODCAST for you lab rinse. I'm Amanda Knox and I'm Christopher. Robinson. I know what? It's like to be absolutely stuck to wind up in a life. I never expected but everyone's got their own personal maze complete with dead ends, shortcuts and mentors. So we're bringing you a podcast where you can get lost on a cruise ship in the trauma mother's murder in a presidential campaign or in a corrupt court surrounded by ravenous media a podcast featuring unlikely obstacles a terrorist husband, a shadowy ball, a pregnant wife across the ocean. So come on, get lost with us as we bring you stories from Jon. 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Entertainment News 10/16/20

Best of The Steve Harvey Morning Show

09:04 min | 10 months ago

Entertainment News 10/16/20

"At target each item you put in your cart brings more good to life like a coffee brand that opens more is to black business natural laundry detergent that puts a lighter load on the planet wheelchair friendly Halloween costumes that set make believe in motion and make up at celebrates beauty in every shade. Here, the good you want is always within reach because target we believe in good we can all afford. Hosa part-time genius, Co founder of Mental Floss, and like many of you I'm one of the twenty one million people that have picked up gardening in the past six months. That's why I'm hosting the brand new podcast humans growing stopped brought to you by Iheartmedia your friends at Miracle Grow Join me on a green adventure as we talk with experts, friends and surprise guests and gardening means to them listen to humans growing stuff on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Guys in today's entertainment news it is official Cardi B. is back with set. This is just two weeks after she filed for divorce saying she was never going back Cardi said it's really hard not to talk to your best friend meaning offset in video Cardi called herself are crazy b word she said I'm just crazy and she shut down the rumors that she got back with that because she is materialistic. That's what the trolls were saying but she says she does like material things and we all know that that gave Cardi B., a Rolls Royce for her birthday. So Ross fairly to this field clue which. Get back together I, mean you just. Go to strip. Clubs. That's on this. Understand Hey man win. When did it become that fain? How long ago? Did it become thing when couple star going to? Being women. Throw they birthday parties issue. Because it's more exciting than a damn bowling potted as. Along told us. Burnham on strike. Come out. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Got It. Let's open up with stripping bowling. Great drifted in Bowling Lanes O. Rien with me. Now, that would be to every lane. got. Name Foot I got name timing come. Check it out y'all ready for the name of the NICOT. Bowling. But shoes is called. A. League their. Commercial. Todd of being alone tired of sitting at home I'd nothing to do can't play pool. Don't have a ping pong table come on down to nothing. But shoes and you let me tell you folks when I say nothing but shoes I do mean nothing what she Come in here with close if you want to get through to. You can't have nothing. But as nick at bowling. Greatest thing was never mind Kate Bowl don't bother. Ball never had a striking your life. This is the place where you. Shoes has. Even detainment chicken wings. Absolutely. Delicious. FRY Broccoli anywhere. It's a terrific place. Gentlemen scores don't matter you tour she. Please go phone campus. Low. The weekend nothing but shoes on. The weekend is nothing but you come on down but. Have Yourself. Nothing. Nothing nothing but you've. All. Marshall? PODER SLAB next week babies time it's going open. Up to US MISSISSIPPI MONICA's per day in. November. Crazy. Okay. This is a wild transition right here but we got. Bowman Nick Week. We gotta go to. Monica going in. And be standing at the counter and don't step around accounting not gonna Let. Little baby but. Yopu days on Saturday Monica step around the corner okay. Let me go here take these shoes. Oh. BE SAYING INTRIGUED Thank you very much people call me nothing but socks anyway despite the protests against Judge Amy Konia Barrett Donald Trump's nominee for the supreme court the Republican chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Lindsay. Graham. Says he's moving ahead with a vote to confirm Judge Barrett. Next week Graham says that trump is the president. So is his right to nominate and to have his choice confirmed however, Democrats. Call Republicans a bunch of hypocrites since they refuse to even interview president. Obama's High Court nominee claiming that it was too close to the election and I was two hundred days out and they said the choice at that time should have been left up to the next president that was their excuse well besides that Connecticut Democrat Richard Blumenthal says Senator should be thinking about something else anyway. In the midst of a pandemic, and we should be dealing with that health crisis. Instead of considering the nomination once more the committee vote is set for next Thursday with a full Senate vote expected sometime before election day president trump and Joe Biden held competing townhall campaign events. Last Night Biden in Philadelphia trump events. Trump's event was in Miami where he was questioned by the about the corona. NBC Savannah Guthrie. On the day the debate I guess since I. took the test today before and the day before missed enormous opportunities and kept saying things that weren't true. It's going to go away by Easter. Don't worry about when the summer comes. It's all going to go away like America. And of course, it didn't Pennsylvania and Florida are key swing states both candidates in the November election vice presidential candidate camel a Harris will only be. Virtually, this weekend because an assistant of hers and another person who's been around she person part of the flight crew on the plane she's been on They've tested positive for the coronavirus although she continues to test negative. Later today Joe Biden will be campaigning in Michigan while the president campaigns in Florida and Georgia. Looks like he's GonNa take his ego with him. Company said to me the other you're the most famous person in the world by far. Is. It yes yours. Is Famous I said Jesus Christ. This make number two eric trump says his father literally saved Christianity. That's the quote there. Well on a lighter not to ladder. No today is I love Lucy. Minute Ricky you stop that now back to the Steve Harvey. Morning. Show you're listening to Steve Harvey Morning Show. Dr Wendy Walsh host of the podcast mating matters I believe nearly every human behavior is motivated by a desire for love. I love the romantic. Indians I believe in happy endings sex sometimes find myself looking for reasons to have sex for to hedge reproductive odds of always been very active mating matters we explore how are ancient brains are interacting with the modern world listen to mating matters on the iheartradio APP, apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your podcast. Feeling lost then we've got the podcast. For. You Labyrinth. I'm Amanda and I'm Christopher Robinson. I know what? It's like to be absolutely stuck to wind up in a life I never expected but everyone's got their own personal maze complete with dead ends, shortcuts, minicars. 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Be Kind Rewind

This is Today

10:00 min | 2 months ago

Be Kind Rewind

"It's national vcr. day today. and so i remind you. Please be kind rewind thank you. This is today welcome to this is today the podcast that features the stories that make this day unique. It's monday june seventh twenty twenty one. I'm russ and here's what you need to know about today. Yeah it's a national chocolate ice cream day today along with vcr day. Let's first talk about the chocolate ice cream. Because i know it's going to be hard to talk about anything else after that but we'll we'll just deal with that. I will get the good stuff out of the way here and talk about chocolate ice cream. Chocolate flavored ice cream is sold the most around the world so everybody is eating chocolate ice cream anywhere and actually it was the first day i think he within laugh towards but yes it's amazing we all love it The average american consumes forty eight cups of ice cream just in general throughout the year. I'm assuming a lot of that is Chocolate about nine percent of the milk in the us goes towards ice cream production. So everybody's having ice cream if you're not doing it today. You're not one of the cool ones so definitely do grab some ice cream today and preferably chocolate ice cream. Because you know that's the day today The us is actually the number one consumer of ice cream in the world and you can tell that by our waistlines. And here's the thing. There's a bit of a controversy here. yougov says that chocolate is the most popular but international dairy foods. Association says vanilla is the most popular. So there's this sort of battle here chocolate number one vanilla number two strawberry number three. If you look at one website looking at the other website it goes vanilla chocolate and then cookies and cream. I'm more likely to believe the yougov side. But i don't know i guess i guess we're going to have yet another recount here in the united states. Just can't we can't do this can we. This is this is crazy vcr day as well. Let's let's move onto that the video cassette recorder for for those of you. That don't know what this is. This is how we used to watch movies back in the stone age or as i like to call it the nineties eighties and the nineties actually Okay we switched over to dvd and laserdisc and all these other crazy things basically. We just had a ton of different ways to buy the same movie over and over and over again kind of like now where you buy it on comcast or whatever your cable company is and then you bite on apple and then you buy it on. Yeah it's the same sort of thing where you're just buying the same media over and over under how many times throughout the years that i've purchased star wars but it's been a lot of money on it over the years and video cassettes. The thing was you could go spend ninety dollars on a movie. You put it in and then your vcr like rips up the tape. Yeah it was awful. So i actually got decent at splicing together so that i can continue to watch movies. Yeah the vcr. It was a great invention of for its time. I guess you know. All of us grew up with the vcr and there's that love for the vcr. In fact. i think early on. I compare it a lot of my relationships to my vcr and the vcr would always win. Because if i didn't like fast forward you know change tapes. If i didn't like a certain program or whatever it was and i guess still way. Vcr's are kind of like some relationships. I mean now you know we. We replace a lot of that with net flicks. Let's take a look at our events for today. We started way back in sixteen fifty four louis. The fourteenth was crowned king of france. On this day well the thing was. He was just four when his dad died back in. Sixteen forty three so mom would basically rule the country until he was of age. Fifteen is a great age to take over as king about that one but okay He did and he had gotten married and had kids yet. Actually six children only one survived past the age of five He actually had plenty more children. Actually over a dozen illegitimate children who number of mistresses. That's the kind of guy he was. I and if you think you're going to see basically replicas of him everywhere. Since he had so many illegitimate children. Well that might be a statue because he also had twenty statues of himself created to spread throughout the country as a symbol of his monarchy. I in one thousand nine hundred forty two on this day. The battle of midway ended and that was one for the americans aside here. Yeah the japanese thought. This was going to be an easy victory basically. It was a three day battle of the goal was to destroy the remaining ships within the us naval phlippe they were going after the carriers and these were the carriers that were not at pearl harbor during that attack. So they tried. They gave it their best. They brought in seven battleships ten submarines fifteen cruisers and forty two destroyers. The thing is clearly. They've never played the board game battleship. Because if you put that many ships down as soon as you say a fourteen you're gonna hit a ship. It's going to happen. You know. I mean it's it's impossible to have that many ships on the board all right. I mean come on yeah anyway. I was at a victory for the us and also the us in cracked the japanese code allowing us forces to prepare for the battle so it gives. It's kind of like playing battleship. But you gotta mirror behind the players so that you can see yet. That's that's happened to me before. And that was a decisive victory for me. Nine hundred eighty two on this day. President reagan met pope john. Paul the second and queen elizabeth on the same day. Not at the same place but on the same day doesn't sound like a joke. A president of pope and a queen walk into a bar. Well aside from the sounded like a premise of joke. It was actually kind of a cool day and one of the things that i love to do is check out the white house. Diaries on the reagan foundation website is such a fun read because the way reagan describes these things he was always just so fascinated by some things like horses. He was fascinated by horses of various things. He was always fascinated by these extraordinary reinstated. That he had. You didn't take anything for granted. I just thought that was so cool. Anyway while here's what he said. Well a ronnie in. Nancy visited the vatican. He said that a group of young american priests broke into song of american america. The beautiful and we both cried. Rhonda nancy are. Are there crying because of the sign that was heard The streets near the vatican were lined with cheering people and he was told that this was the first time that it had happened for any head of state so he was excited about that. They flew over to london and helicopter to a windsor castle. And he said this was a fairytale experience. A black tie dinner with the queen and prince philip plus family and the queen mother and the next day they went for a ride with the queen in a carriage and he described the four horses. Of course gotta you gotta check this out again. It's on the reagan foundation website And also on that trip by the way. He addressed a joint session of parliament. Being the first ever president to do so honesty in one thousand nine hundred eighty two. Priscilla presley opened up graceland to the public. And yeah. it's open again. I go check out the home of the king and the only area that you couldn't go when they opened it up in one thousand. Nine hundred. Ninety two was the bathroom. Elvis presley died as you may recall. He was the king he did die on the throne. I'm sorry that too soon. In twenty eleven and intendo announced a new video game system. The we you he was a touchscreen display and you know kinda was like kind of the difference between the portable tablet and the console game and then they came out with the switch. The switch so much better than the we you. I don't think anybody That had the we you but if you did hey good job. Picking up that game. I'll i'll support that. But yeah we have the we and then we skipped over to the switch. Wow you know everything about my gaming history. Battleship we switch. Let's take a look at our birthdays for today shall we. Yeah emily jones turns. Twenty-six mick foley is fifty six. Mike pence is sixty. Two bill hader forty-three leeson is sixty nine. Fifty waft is thirty. Dave navarro is fifty four annakournakova turns forty today and it is the birthday of prince. He would have been sixty three today. He passed away in two thousand sixteen born in one thousand nine hundred fifty eight. That is your look at june seven. Thanks for listening to this today. We do our best to pull together all the correct information if we made a mistake and you heard it. You're super smart. We're super sorry. Be sure to subscribe wherever you get your podcast and give us a five star if you think we deserve it. If you'd like to make sure that we cover something on a future episode. Let us now go over to this. Is today podcast. Dot com to make suggestions give us feedback. Nc our other podcasts like learning more. There's a link in the description. I hope you enjoyed learning about today. I'm russ and i'll talk to you tomorrow. I'm great day.

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Episode 44: Stephen Perkins

You Really Shouldn't Have

42:54 min | 6 months ago

Episode 44: Stephen Perkins

"Hello and welcome. So you really shouldn't have with me james warrick. Each week i sit down with a different guest as we discussed the highlights of their career and rep stories on the worst gifts. They've been given joining me this week. Is drummer stephen perkins class known as a member of by jane's addiction and porno for pyros. Stephen joins me to discuss his music career. Life during the covid. Pandemic and of course. Let's be on the worst gift he's stephen. Thanks so much for joining. The show is absolutely great to have you here. It's a pleasure to be here and it's good to cross the pond you know what's really cool when jane's addiction wenchang in nineteen eighty-eight. We toured all of england. Nowadays people pre covid people go to london and come back home back then back then. We did cristo. Manchester birmingham leeds london and i think one other of course colin but that separate but We did a know possibly seven shows throughout england. I really got a chance to feel and taste and smell the whole country. And i love touring like that when you really get a chance to meet different people in different parts of the region. I look forward to talking about jane's addiction. A little bit later on when we get that but i wanna go right back to the star steven if mind. When did you first discover drumming and who he early influences grown up. Well at eight years old. I saw a movie about benny goodman. And the real gene krupa played himself in the movie and when they showed him doing his big drum solo in sing sing. They shot to the audience and everybody could not. It was contagious and infectious. They couldn't stop tapping and dancing. He was having a great time. They were having a great time and to me. Only was the beautiful piece of art that it was this. Great social communicator. And people loosened up it was the lubar cater really was and i thought. That's that's the instrument for me. You know and it took a while before. I got a pair of drumsticks. I think i was maybe ten years old but played pillow and pots and pans for a couple years. And actually it was really good for me to learn how to bounce a stick off different services before. I actually got a drumhead you know. I got my snare drum. I think i was eleven. I started learning how to do the rudiments correctly. And that's such a great romance to to know buddy. Rich elvin jones and our blakey and ed tile. The old great guys did the same rudiments. That i was learning so i had this connection with the elders because we learned and retried the same ideas with these rudiments and then learning how to bounce the state from a pillow to a snare drum and then at thirteen i got a drum set and then that's a whole nother level because you got to move your body and your hips senior ankles in your feet. So it's not just about bouncing sticks. It's about dancing on the instrument and learning how to become a musical and lyrical with a a drum set which to me when you walk into a silent room. The drums are hitting a hammer and a nail. You have to pierce the silence. It's not like an instrument where you can brush the silence and kind of you know gently stroke it. You have to punch through and the it's almost like the feeling when you're putting a nail on a wall when you do it right. It's so sad. It's so satisfying when you actually get that nail in with the hammer one hit and that's kind of the romance. I have with bouncing sticks office surface than learning how to use my body with the instrument and then going into a silent room and understanding the power of piercing that silence would destroy them and the symbol and the bass drum. And the bongo and the snare drum and tom tom cowbell etc. They all have different effects and different frequency. That pierces the silence to use that together and to use this contraption which they called it back then a trap kit and really big music with it and it was a challenge. You know because like i say other instruments you can kind of brush stroke the sound and this you really have to be certain and confident with your attack and stand by it. Stick to your guns so to speak to really stand there and say this is the real estate. I'm gonna claim and that's really the beginning of an all. And of course you know jazz drummers to me there they really stand out because they all sound different from each other and with motown rock music. A lot of the drummer's start to sound the same and it takes a while for drummer to get his personality in that. Kind of sean. But with jazz music they all sounded so different to me and so i searched for jazz musicians in los angeles. But i couldn't find. Today is eddie van halen's birthday. He would've been sixty six a lot of my friends. Were you know black sabbath van halen in a zeppelin deep purple. Of course i loved it too but there wasn't anybody playing jazz music so i found drummers that were swinging and influenced by jazz that were in the rock genre. Mitch mitchell. Would you may hendricks bill ward with black sabbath. Of course ringo. In charlie watts and i started to see this hybrid of jazz motown in rock and blues. And what that does to the drama her and then find out you know like ginger baker from cream. He took from africa strong copeland. From the police he took from the jamaican african feel. And so then. I started to see this. This stu in this this Some kind of you know creo of of of african and european and what it what. It does to the drummer and how to become an original drummer and not replicate you heroes but draw from them in somehow get this homegrown sound and here in los angeles right next to mexico. There's a lot of latin influence. Not only in the music and the art in the food but in the rhythms and so i became ultra layer of all these different things. Take the chops. Take the rudiments take my personal experiences. And all the music i love and and kinda put in the washing machine and see what comes out you know and when i got to high school i joined the marching band. And that's when. I realized the power of the union of the drummer when you can get five six ten drummers together doing the same part or mixing together to make one sound and the execution and the discipline in purity of that access to a whole 'nother level so i had these different experiences enriching my drumming. You know from the pillow to the to the records. I bought to the drum set i acquired and and then the people in that you know what they brought to my circle and so that was so important to find the right people to play with it really is part of the puzzle said growing up. You're in a number of sort of kate bands throughout real high school and that was rocked by east as well. So take me on my journey from there through to you joining jane's addiction. Me and dave navarro. We met when i was fourteen and we were both into hard rock music right. At that point there was some older kids at the high school that took notice in me. They were seniors sixteen seventeen so they asked me to join their band and it was called and champion. Was the first gigs idea. Mela when i was fifteen before me. Navarro sardi geoghegan and we did the troubadour. The roxie and club called the fetish club. Here in los angeles in hollywood outside hollywood and that music was really melodic and not so much my source of inspiration but kind of inspired by journey sticks. You know not dangerous but well after well executed and melodic but that gave me the understanding of all you gotta do is book a gig and practice your butt off and then go play gig and then all of a sudden you're in the mix and that lasted for about a year but me. Dave navarro always had plans of playing hard rock music. We started a band called disaster so we had champion which was me and a couple of cats. I really wasn't tight with his friends. But we worked our asses off become a good band and then disaster was inspired by slayer iron maiden sabbath and it was in a listening back now. Mehan viral definitely had a handle on our instruments. The other cats were good players but not as disciplined as me and dave. But we started doing the same thing booking gigs now flyers in the sunset strip and all of sudden were doing gigs. In the in the troubadour the next night there was motley crue and there was rat and there was a band called steeler with inveigh amount scene and even though these cats were ten years are you know. I think they're in their twenties. We are still fifteen. We were doing gigs at the same venue so we thought anything is possible. If you just put your foot down and stick to your guns you know you'll definitely make some noise. And when i was seventeen my girlfriend at the time her older brother was the bass player for a band called sicom and that was perry and eric avery. They were interested in starting a new band which was as dark and added a little more funk because in la at the time we have the chili peppers. Fishbone the minute man that turned into a fire hose. And there was a spunk. And this happy kind of sense of humor threaded through it and so sicom was urging to change into something more funky and my girlfriend said ron. You trauma younger brother. You gotta hand it to pair. And eric twenty four hours. Seventeen and i showed up. And i did my best keith moon. And they're like you're the guy and they had guitar player at the time. But i kept telling him about my best friend dave navarro. This guy is out of sight. We bring along and what you hear on our first triple x. Record live at the roxy is basically what we sounded like. Our first rehearsal pigs in zen had a dad ores simple grooves but relentless in the energy and and peres poems. Were so different than what we were used to. He didn't have verse verse chorus chorus bursts. Bridge he just had a poem and wrote the song around the poem so the arrangements were so different than what was happening around us and we had this This real sense of of wanting to be original but also tipping our hats who the favorites of of echo on the bunny man and susie joy division and then throw into sabbath zeppelin and and really had like fireworks. Meets this tame songwriting ability. And that's what you get when you surround yourself with the right players and they urge you to be yourself and that's really what james addiction was in our very first show x the ban x was there and the and the cats fishbone chili peppers this cool. La community was all there and being david the youngest ones by far but they really was are welcoming and what was happening at the la scene. Then the strip was kind. Coming to an end it was nineteen eighty-six the labels signed everything they can get their hands on and a lot of it was very familiar to what you see coming out of the hair metal and that was coming to an end but that scene would end at midnight are seen would start in downtown. La are soon after hours and are seen was ever changing so what you had in the after hours. La scene was not only the strip coming to find a place to party all night. But you had these really what was going to turn into the next filmmakers in the next poets and the next authors and and brockers was starting to be kind of melted together on these late night. Gigs jane's addiction was really the house span. For all that you know and It's about really sticking this new sound into their world and standing there and saying this is what we're gonna do. We're not looking for money. We're not looking for fame. We're looking for for new ways to show this the mirror. The the reflection of what's happening our world and it was a perfect time for it really was stephen. Got to the point of the show. Where i have to ask you. What is the worst gift giving given. Well that's a great question now. of course it's not the amount a spend because it comes from their heart when they give it to you of course not the actual item they give you because it's something maybe they think you need or don't need but when i get a book that have already read. I don't know what to do it. Thank you and i do. I do i sit and say i haven't read this yet. Can't wait or do i tell them the truth. I read this before and also in some of the hand you a bag of drugs and they go here go. Here's a bendel of someday. i'll thanks. That's really nice of you. But i i heard me now. What are you doing to me so a book. I've read or a bag of baggage stuff. And i don't need. You mentioned the record there which was good. Jane's addiction the live one at the roxy alive album being the first album. You guys put out. Is an unusual decision prompted that well. We have a lot of interest with labels but we didn't want to be cut into anything or put into a category and we didn't want anybody to give us a stylist or producer or a timeframe to make our music so we do what we do on stage and we brought a recording unit a mobile unit that drove up in park between the rainbow and the roxie little parking lot and it had a recording studio in it and that was pretty new to me the mobile unit. Now everyone's got a mobile unit kind of but and so we thought let's just do it ourselves and we're not gonna have anybody. Tell us what kind of lyrics we can and cannot do. We're not going to give us a thought. On how long or short the songs will be and we really wanted to really put our imprint on. What jane's addiction was before we even talked about going to a major and a lot of the majors were there at that show capital warner's geffen slash records. Sst a lot of great labels. Were there watching us. And we said you know what we're making a record right now so You know what's nex could be yours but this is what we're doing and it was really about performance capturing energy and we took that idea and and put that into nothing shocking and the. We're actually very lucky that we had to perform a one take all the situation for the live record. Said this is what it is so we had the understanding of what it takes to bring the energy even though the mics are on now. Nothing's shocking was fantastic because we never had a chance to spend a month in a studio so all of a sudden. The studio became an instrument. And we're we're great live and we put the mics up and document this performance. And then why. Let's go put some salt and pepper and some cayenne pepper rica on it you know and and start using the studio for what it really is worse. And that is decorating the music with this technology and the cat that produced this with us is dave jordan now he just finished talking heads record. Remain in light. And he was the engineer for brian. Eno on that. And then he did the engineering for brian. Eno and david byrne made a record. My life in the bush of ghosts and so these are the records he just came out and they were fantastic studio experimental records so he had that knowledge of what to do with the studio and how to make the studios stand and stand next to the performance. Not getting away of it and he had the chance to record discreet. Live band mean dave. We only had. I had one drum set. He had one guitar and a marshall. They shut they said to us. Let's bring a telecaster and stratocaster and sitar and you know it s g. Dave had his les paul. But i'm sunny. Had six or seven guitars to choose from and they said to me. Let's try some temperatures in some congas and let's bring some other instruments that you don't really have a chance to explore with 'cause you're young drummer who's got one set. So they showed us the way of job having the opportunity to to grab these new instruments into explore them and put them into the song and color the song and really use the different colors you know and and if you think about salvador dali picasso. They had a pallet with many colors and they news every color on every painting but they can look at the and go okay. I'm going to mix and match and and that's really with a chance. We got to do with nothing. Shocking is a put a live band in a studio and take our time and so the live record really practice for being a good live band in a studio and you know once you put headphones on and you separate people at the glass wall. Sometimes it can get sterile. Sometimes it can get cold. Sometimes people think too much and they had the microscope on and they don't let the soul out. We didn't have that issue we're like. Hey we're alive bad record us and then will enjoy what what we can do after after the performance. Let's go take a listen and decorate and know. I remember as a kid hearing. The beatles recorded strawberry fields over twenty times. Different tempos in different states. Didn't understand it until i got in the studio. And i was like i get it. You go back into the engineer and into the control room and you listen. And like whoa. It's too fast. it's too slow is too many notes. It's not enough notes. you know. Maybe we should try. Different snare drum tried different symbols less symbols more symbols. And so i understood how the band like the beatles use the studio from their very first record meet the beatles to revolver and even rubber soul. You can hear them experimenting then of course into start your peppers and sarah was all about experimenting and it wasn't about capturing a live band so there was a lot of lessons to be learned and we were patient and we were good. Students are talk about the second album being difficult in some ways. And i wanted to touch on ritual habitual simply. Because i don't wanna make you feel old stephen but it was released the same year i was born to think that in many many many moons ago but yes the sophomore record can be the curse for a lot of bands of fortunately for us. We took nothing shocking and we toured for about eight to ten months and we really perfect at our live. Show and perry was great and living in the moment and reading the newspaper and putting everything that happened that day into the show that night and the rest of the guys were great at editing and re editing the songs and fine-tuning the tunes but playing at high energy and taking it from las vegas the salt lake city over to portland oregon up to seattle into vancouver and you know we kept on changing different venues and different people and and giving them what they really need needed which was a somewhat of a local band experience but from la but we would take what we were getting out of seattle and put it right into the show. When we went to england that was under nothing shocking tour. We played bristol. We played leads. We've played so many different spots throughout england and really got a chance to shop in tastes than eat the food and and then give them some. La but A lot of the tunes on ritual were written months and months earlier with the nothing shocking songs. So ted just admit it was written at the same time as three days and had a dad was written at the same time his ainhoa right but we just got better as a band and better performance had started to pull the band's energy together without even having to think what's next it just fit like a puzzle. Mcs scher lithograph. You know the white duck and the black duck perfectly a pattern and you're not sure which one you're looking at but he's fits and i think with ritual we started to find in babies the wrong word but progressive rock genesis. Yes emerson lake and palmer some of the bands that were playing very interesting and odd time signatures are taking the punk rock attitude but more of a virtuosity on the instrument. And i think what you get with. Ritual is that combination of a great punk rock band. But we're starting to become really good at our our instruments. We started. Play the hell out of those things you know and it was because we to for ten months and really the union of the band going out to dinner seeing movies. Getting on the bus. On a plane nominally the stage time but the hang time and i think what you hear on ritual our good friends A well oiled live band and again what i was saying earlier the the understanding of what a studio in the toys of the studio that could bring how you can produce the the band and produced the song to be the sonic moment and i was so proud of that record. I have the pre mix and the rough mix and the outtakes and they are just as potent as the final mix and the master. It's this great live band. You know and and perry's lyrics again these poems that didn't really have any structure of verse chorus verse. Chorus is a song. Like stop doesn't have a chorus. It's got to versus a bridge at halftime guitar solo vocal break. And we're out you know and if you think about the the record prior mound songs just got two parts you know caching now and and if you all the and then the verse you know coming down the mountain so we would take these collins and i. I really think three days. Was this story that perry told us about this. Great ninety with these two girls and the night starts awful romance and then it's turns into hot sex and then by the end you're jealous of each other. Someone got more attention the other. That's that's what happens in the two wounded. It takes one part and then never. Does it again just like a night with your girlfriend. You don't repeat you. Just keep moving forward until the sun comes out. I think my favorite part on ritual my favorite tune is then she did is because this experiment with violin and piano player that we invited into the session and to be able to take our time with the solo and to have these lyrics that were so personal to perry by the girlfriend who passed away his mom who passed away and and unionize the music with larry i. It sounds like it was there. Were born together. These words in the song and so that's the the sophomore curse was not nothing we thought of except this time to present the band. After these ten months touring ten months at hanging out and being friends. And i thought we would make ten records together and my little that i know that was going to be our last record for a while but you know it really was a great experience. An experiment and i can put the record on nowadays. I don't listen to the records often. But when i do i feel a romantic love affair with that band and the friendships we had. And that's that's really i. I think what. I feel when i hear those songs is. Wow the love we all shared and and what it does to people in the audience. There's a great relationship that musicians have with their audience and we let them feel our emotions and we all have these similar feelings. So there's there's this moment where. I hear paralegal threes four bam and everybody else feels it to just like i do. I mean we're all we're together. It's this great union. You mentioned of course that after that record would be when you went into hiatus but you imperative oversee went off and created what became porno for pyros. So when you. I sort of came up with the project when he first came about. What was your mindset musically. Let's try and do something a bit different always it. Let's just keep making the same great music we've done the last five years absolutely. We want it to be different. As soon as jane's broke up a bank called suicidal tendencies played about ten shows with us. And then the bass player robert trujillo. Who's now talca and the singer. Mike muir they asked me on some of those earlier shows if i would do some sessions with infectious grooves new van. They're working on so the day that james broke up in hawaii. Those cats were there backstage. Asked me to go on tour with them and infectious grooves. Perry wanted to take a year off. I could not deal with any time off. I i got into a new band immediately and all of a sudden. We're opening up for ozzy on the no more tears tour and i've got a whole new band and i found a new love affair with hard rock funk music and that lasted for about a year and it was great because we played with the deaf tones and we played with corn and we play with the limpest hidden in different bands. You know that would just starting to come up. They weren't really even name those bands yet. They were those musicians. Were around just starting to find new friends new players to come to an end being perry discussed. What should porno be and we thought the lyric and the rhythm has to be the the top of the pyramid. Were not going to look for another day from varo. We're not gonna look for other era gave re. Let's look for something different. And we found pete distefano. Who's a wonderful guitar player. But not based on soaring solos more about writing songs around the campfire beach with an acoustic and let the the drums and the lyric kind of lead. The way and martine bass player was from holland amsterdam and so he grew up types of music that i couldn't reference where i couldn't tell them to play this iron maiden rift from rask child. He didn't hear you've ever heard i couldn't turn to pull out a you. Know a metallica. Risk from ride the lightning as he grew up in amsterdam and it was a whole nother type of music. So all of a sudden this rhythm section was reborn because i couldn't reference some of the stuff i grew up with and he couldn't show me and we started to learn each other's style but it was a very new marriage of rhythm and we thought let's make this a very i guess in a sense world be type of record and i brought bongos and some bali's tiffany's different chimes and bells to the drum kit and we'd lead the music with rhythm and lyric and the first record was put together month after month of rehearsing and becoming a great unit before anybody hurt us and the second record was really built in the studio but we traveled for the second record to write these songs. We went to bali. Tahiti mexico fiji. And that's how you hear you know somehow to houston moon was written to he. You know. Bali is written in bali and there was written like i say the qatar around a campfire. And you can hear that in the music so we definitely wanted to have the high energy and and the the fireworks but we didn't want to try to replicate jane's addiction in anyway and i really love listening to the very first record with song orgasm. The title track on her for pyros. The drums are so rhythmic and tribal and eighty of a hard rock band as far as what the drummer by wanna think. He's in a do and you know those there's a great little run from. Acdc you don't get better than that when you're talking about fat pocket but that's not what we were looking for. We were looking for this. Real african Influenced by shelagh kuti influenced by babatunde olatunji influenced by zakir hussain from india influenced by tito. Puente you know and and taking these cool authentic hole rhythms and bringing them to the music and never ever leading the drums or the music in the way of the poem because the poem comes first. And that's where the emotion comes from. So yeah we definitely took a look at. It wasn't like let's do a one eighty. Let's rethink how we're gonna make this record at big performance performances. You during your time with porno for pyros was of course woodstock in ninety four so tell me a bit about not experience. Well i tell you. There's a lot that happened. It would for me because my brother just passed away. He was only twenty eight. I was twenty five. And i flew my sister my parents toward star to watch the performance and then it was navarro's first or second show with the chili peppers day and my parents and dave new my brother very well so this great family reunion and this great spiritual awakening of missing my brother playing the biggest show of my career. My family and dave there for my brother. And they put us between the allman brothers. And bob dylan and my brothers are two of my brother's favorite artists so i was like okay. He's here you know yes and not only was the show inspired by the family and friends but when you feel that many people together and like i said the music can bring emotions out that the no other art does film no picasso can do it like a good rock show and and during our from the grateful dead set it at the first woodstock as he flew over into woodstock. He said the only time you see this. Many people is a battlefield. Look now music is bringing these people together and like a school of fish or a a you know. A flock of birds music everybody together to jump up and down in unison and field together. So that's that's what i felt at that show is a great family reunion. Discreet friendship reunion with navarro. And and this this togetherness with the audience and You know perry said some incredible things as the music softer. He had a lot to say. And he's very relatable and he always finds something to get people to think and twist their head a little of instead of just giving a good rock show. We gave them a. You know an inspirational rock show. And that's how. I felt there you know and want to manhattan and spend the next two or three days with the family walked in the streets and talking about my brother and we bumped into navarro revolt in a day that trash revival which is a great place shot to get close like the new york dolls would wear something and so it kept on happening where these family and friends and music erases. Great connection of all that together so it was really definitely one of the highlights of my musical and spiritual career. You know and a small show. When there's one hundred people can do it as well. You know but those big shows especially when you see people one hundred yards away. You're not getting i contact. And they might even be there to see your band. But you're you're in their head. You can't escape and i love that you know and i love knowing the drums are doing that because in los angeles drum circles at venice beach. And if you're far away you hear the boom of that but you don't see it. It makes you move. It makes you feel good and then you get close on. It gets louder and then all of a sudden you see this crowd of people playing drums and you smell incense and weed and hash and and you know in the colors start to come together in sound in smell and rhythm and so. That's that's something. I really appreciate with big concerts as the drums. And the music itself they mostly the drums travel those frequencies travel like a wave so far away from the stage and people are reacting to it and feeling it and and in my opinion the drummer's dot this great responsibility to hook people by the heart and and listen to them up and shake them up and say hey you know. We're here as being to enjoy each other and like an animal world there's battles there's territory issues between you know fishing tiger and lion dairy every no jackal. Everyone's got their own claim. The waterhole gets a little crazy. When there's too many animals but you can share together. We can become that. Mcast painting or and it all is just patterns going right off the page. I wanted to touch just quickly even on the reforming of jane's addiction. Was that process. Like when you came back together. After years apart i mean. Obviously you're playing with perry in important bob's you cannot with the other guys as well. Was it easy to pick out musically. Where left off absolutely i mean. It's it's almost like you know. Seen an old friend or an old romance but you never broke up on bad terms. It just feels good to see them and and hug and reminisce and just like the conversation. If we don't talk over each other and we listen like a hand in a glove it just works you know and of course i think we're better musicians and we're smarter spiritually and and decisions. We make on our instrument. I think are more mature but if we wrote the song today when ideas is brave. Yes it's about being courageous on your instrument about having confidence but also bravery to play the way you wanna play in. Stick to your guns. And that's what jane's addiction does. It's about you know really bringing your personality right into the instrument and and living in the moment living in the now taking the experiences and pain and suffering and happiness and pleasure and bring it right to the song and when i say when peres threes four it really feels right. It's like jumping on a trampoline and just perfectly landing and flying in the air. This is like you know it's effortless but you have to pay attention your wipe out. Obviously we're still living in a pandemic world. How have you been finding the lockdown situation. As far as the technology today and what it's done to music and are you know that the separation of social it's it's not to be able to be same room with other musicians has really slot my face because ever since i was fifteen. Been gigging every week and two or three times a week. You know but with this technology you can do sessions and it was already existing pre koga but now it's really kind of fit into everybody's world. We can do interviews. We make music. We can do film. We can edit stuff together and still be thousands of miles away with you playing drums if as a slight delay. That must really mess you up off work on that. There were is some technology that can get rid of that latency. My someone will send me a track. And they'll tell me the be permitted the bpm and i can cut the track at that bpm and And we can. We can glued together and make it happen but you know as drummer. i think most instruments especially in the drummer. It's like a tennis game. You need to play with somebody You they tell us alone and you need someone to be able to hit the ball back. I mean you can't be that much better than the other opponent. 'cause they'll never. There's no rally still. The drummer really to me is a team player. You need someone to play with. And that's that's definitely You're not playing a lot alone and getting my chops. Kinda tuned back in kind of where i was when i was fifteen remembering the rudiments and how to bounce the stick to surfaces but the creative side and that conversation like the jazz drummer has to converse with other players is something. That's i need and i want to you know. I'm not losing the technique. But i still do to polish and i can't wait to get in a room with people. Second polish that technique of of socializing musically. You know wrapping up if you could go right back to the beginning of your career and buy yourself a gift to help you get where you are. Now what give would you give yourself. That's a question you know i would do is get a metronome because is about playing from your heart. But it's such a great challenge to practice parts with a metronome and to feel what it feels like to get something out of certain tempo and either slow it down or speed it up and still find a way to make it feel good now. Beethoven's fifth symphony could be thirty minutes. It could be forty minutes. Depends on the conductor. Same piece of music so it is about your heart and how you feel thrust but to understand the metronome and nowadays they call to click track but back then there was the click track for me and it was a beautiful piece of san piano or move back and forth but it was sometimes a little scary to look at it and think. Am i speeding up. Why do i speak to my soaring down. What makes me slow down. And it's a great marriage if you can get to know the metronome and become friends with and realize it's just another. It's the other side of the tennis player. it's the other tennis player. You're playing with it. In so i think that would that would be a great gift for any you know any instrument and he musician anytime with your career and finally where can people find out more about you. What you're doing well if you wanna go instagram. Stephen perkins drummer twitter. Stephen perkins and jane's addiction. I've got a band also with bass player from the strokes. Call summer moon so you can look up for summer moon. it's a great band Fengqi xp and you know. I'm starting a new label. Called perkins palace. Records are nice. And we're gonna get it out there this year. It's not about selling records because people don't so records but it's about finding music and our helping people get that out when the matter what age what type of genre fantastic steven has been an absolute pleasure. Thanks so much for coming on the side. Thanks man kelly to get england. Have a great afternoon. 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