36 Burst results for "Dave Gettleman"

Roger Goodell pleased with virtual NFL Draft

Damon Amendolara

01:29 min | 3 months ago

Roger Goodell pleased with virtual NFL Draft

"Roger Goodell the first ever NFL virtual draft how did it work hi Taylor and we were very very happy at the number one thing is to make sure it works well operationally for clubs that worked very well the club's technology were able to conduct the trades and conduct their business in the way they wanted I think the big upset for the draft was there weren't a lot of technical difficulties from teams that all these GM's and scouts and executives that belly aches about wifi and set up that hacking all this nonsense Much Ado About Nothing shocking much ado about nothing they were able to pull it off and I think the NFL benefited hugely from this night number one do I think sixteen million viewers sixteen million viewers which is a huge number and of course it is because we were all dying for some relevant sports content and we got it so to me it was so ridiculous to hear people complain within the NFL circles about how we couldn't get it done we don't have enough in the home visits we don't have enough interface propositions we can't meet these guys Dave Gettleman GM giants we need to smell and touch our players give me a break no you didn't you need to just do your research you did it you've got the pics in so be it so I think the Goodell is right that it ultimately did

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Fresh update on "dave gettleman" discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

01:06 min | 13 hrs ago

Fresh update on "dave gettleman" discussed on Big Blue View

"Poor performance very rarely do guys fall off of their technique, but it's usually because of mental issues it's usually because of. Getting inside your own head over thinking these, all it really takes is. Missing a kicker to in a game you'll start to doubt yourself. If you miss the miss, one of those kicks next time you go out there you you will overthink it. You will overcompensate with your technique in that could have very well been the case for zero the reason why I wanted to bring this up though. Is because we've had a really good kicker previously ultra process was very good. Last year the kicks that he missed we can point to that being operation airs. If you don't agree with that, go back and look go back and look at the plays that he missed and we pointed out on the show that they were operation errors. A couple outliers but most of those misses were because of operation issues from the snap. We're now going to have a guy who is not as consistent. We have not had to deal with the player who is not a consistent kicker in a few season. So it's to be a bit odd having someone who extra points who is going to miss a couple layup kicks. We might even see instances of. The offense choosing to go forward on a fourth and short instead of kicking a field goal, there is not as much dependency on the kicker as there was previously because the Pat Shurmur New Thomas. McKay knew that they could depend on sauce to at least get an within striking range of hitting a field goal from anywhere around fifty yards or in because he was that. A kicker but we're not gonNA exactly get that with Caton zero that then begs the question do the giants still decide to bring in competition? We already talked about this on a show previously but. There are now two available names in the mix Graham Gano and forbath who are proven veterans in this league similar process to why they signed Casey Kreider. They could go and sign. Graham over four forbath because of previous connections to staff just to compete. So they know they have the right guy for the job. What I know Dave Gettleman is a really big relationship. Guy He Believes in the importance of knowing people and people knowing you. We've seen that time and time again the giants drafts and free agent classes over the last two years pretty much everybody they bring in has some kind of connection to the coaching staff have Kai forbath who was just released by the Dallas cowboys obvious connection. There is with Jason, Garrett who was his head coach And then with Graham Gano he has a obvious connection there with Dave Gettleman who signed him to a deal not all that long ago in Carolina and also with Thomas mcgahey who is his special teams coach in Carolina so There's a lot of personal relationships of a lot of knowledge of these kickers out there. So it would almost surprise me at this point if the giants don't bring either one of them in the Lillo, maybe both of them and let all three kickers. Battle it out although. Considering a reduced roster sizes for this training camp. That might be something they would do in a regular year maybe might not see all three this year right and there's available options for going about that there are two players that normally wouldn't really be available at this point in time. So the giants can make that decision. They can go and bring in some additional help to compete for that kicker spot we're gonNA, wrap up with talking about the non-specialised special teams players before we do. So we're going to a really short commercial break. So, when we talk about non-specialist players, there's a couple of guys that we have spoken very highly of on this show and there are also the kick returners and the kicker turning position is a very key spot on a roster, very key special team spot on the roster. Because if you have a good kick returner, you can create some very big gains that way you can pick up some huge yardage just from a couple of good blocks and put yourself in really good position. So last season we saw tate return punts. We saw Corey Balentine return kicks dairy Slayton did it a few times? The one guy that we were missing was Corey Coleman who was hurt the whole year and I think it's pretty safe to say that Coleman will be the favourite to come back and be the primary kick returner and then also Giovane leak the rookie who was very good in college to be another primary candidate I don't think any of those other guys are going to get as many touches except maybe Ballantyne on special teams as they did previously with the with Coleman and leak now in the play. Yeah. I'm not sure the giants have another punt returner other than Golden. Tate right now He really maybe Sterling Shepherd. I. Believe he has done it as well. They both have similar skillset with the good vision with the ball in their hands. Good Short area quickness. So if they. are able to make a defender Miss or you know they pick up a good block they can maximize whatever is there, which is what you're looking for from a punt returner. You know a guy who can secure the catch and then. Make Ed whatever yardage he can on top of that. You know the kick returner that's a little bit different. I think it will probably come down to realistically. Ballantyne Coleman. As the primary kick returners. Divine Leakey's undrafted free agent running back. I Know Ed put him in his. Prediction to make the final roster. I'm not He'll really have to show something in kick returns in camp to get that I think. But Ballantyne Coleman I. They're pretty likely to both pretty likely to make the final roster. Korey Coleman was he actually emerged as one of the best kick returners in the NFL two years ago before his ACL injury so If that ACL, healthy. I fully expect the giants to give him. As good of an opportunity as they can to show that he he still has that ability to..

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"dave gettleman" Discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

13:09 min | 3 months ago

"dave gettleman" Discussed on Big Blue View

"It's a weekend edition prior to the draft couple of things for you today. I we're going to play for you some clips from Dave cattlemen's Friday conference call his pre-draft conference call. We played for you some clips earlier in the week of a conference call in which John Dave Gentleman spoke about free agency and about some of the organizational changes about the structural changes the way the giants have had to do business because of the covert nineteen shutdown of all of the NFL offices So this was gettleman. Second availability of the week is second conference called this one specifically related to the giants in the NFL draft which is as we said which is coming up in a few days a few takeaways that I wanted to mention before we play those clips. First and foremost gettleman said that he would very seriously entertain the idea of trading down from number four. We know that something. That Dave gettleman in seven drafts has never done. This is a really good situation for the giants a good spot for the giants if someone wants to come up and get that number four pick. Obviously with four offensive tackles who are pretty equally graded on a wide variety of opinion as to. Who's number one and who's number four so you any pretty much? Any of those offensive tackles would be an upgrade for the giants over what they currently have on their offensive line so the giants are in a good spot there if someone does want to move up in Miami or the. La chargers possibly the Carolina Panthers personally. That's about as far as I see the giants moving down. Miami has the fifth pick chargers. Have the panthers have the seventh thick? I doubt that Dave gettleman who has said before that he really doesn't like to trade too far for the simple reason that that you you take yourself out of the mix for players that you might want so number seven Carolina's probably about as far as I think that the giants would go but I do believe that gettleman east serious about possibly moving that pick in picking up a An additional day to draft. Pick something that he can use to to continue to build out the A- the roster as the giants try to try to improve after winning just nine games the past two seasons. `nother thing that that I have been saying consistently and I said earlier in the week after after his Monday conference call. I'm more and more convinced all the time that the giants are going to go often to tackle with their first. Pick whether that's at number four whether it's a little bit lower down as long as one of those four guys is available. I think the giants are going to do that. Rather than take Clemson linebacker. Isiah Simmons Gettleman talked on Friday about the necessity of opening holes for saquon Barkley About Keeping Daniel Jones upright about the idea that he hasn't yet been able to To completely finish rebuilding this offensive. Line something. They walked in the door at the end of the two thousand seventeen season saying that he absolutely needed to do and He said he would just keep building it that they would keep throwing assets at in. He was asked if there was pressure and he said maybe it is a little bit of a pressure point to to fix this offensive line so I fully expect that the giants will go offensive tackle with their first overall. Pick whether that's going to be Tristan wharfs of Iowa generic wills of Alabama MCI Becton of Louisville. I couldn't really tell you at this point Daniel Jeremiah of NFL NETWORK. Highly respected draft analyst. Well-connected was said the other day during conference call that he is becoming more and more convinced that the pick will be jed rick wills of Alabama which makes a lot of sense when you think about the The giants connections to Alabama Joe Judge worked for Nick Sabin for several years Burton Burns. Who is now? The giants running running backs coach was that Alabama for several years was even. Was there even. The last couple of years was hired away from Alabama. Several giants coaches have connections to nick. Sabin so you you would expect that. The judge said the other day that he'll be relying on those college connections or has been for information on players on guys that he trusts so in gettleman talked about that on Friday about how helpful that's been. He talked about Burns. So you would have to think that if the giants are in a coin flip you know between two of the the offensive tackles. Let's say tristen worth sent. And Jed Rick. Wills if they're in a coin flip perhaps the the information the insight their trust in whatever information they're getting from Nick Sabin in the staff at Alabama about Jed Rick Wills in a positive or a negative manner might be the determining factor as to. What the giants do there? That would not Not Be surprised at all in the in the current environment where the giants can't hold pro day or can't go to pro days where the can't hold visits at the facility where they can't meet these players face to face so We'll see how that turns out but as I said I remain pretty much convinced that the giants will go offensive tackle with their first overall. Pick on just a couple of other things that I wanted to talk about. I did ask Dave on Friday about the fact that this draft is so much different. There's so much less contact with players in although the giants are able to face time they're able to to do some of those things remotely but they can't work these guys out. They can't look them in the eye. They can't bring them into the facility. That can't go to pro days in. See them move around on the field so it's a little bit different. I asked Dave. This draft had kind of an old school feel to it because of that and he agreed that it did he he basically said it feels a little bit like the Nineteen Seventies. You know which is back. Maybe when he first started out in the business when when. Nfl teams drafted players without any real contact with them perhaps only with the scouting report. Maybe with some information you know from the from the college coaches. I'm not sure how much film was available for them to watch back at that time in. Probably some from the Colleges. Maybe whatever they saw on television but they were drafting with a lot less information. So we'll see if that plays into the Plays into the giants hands here. We'll see if there if that helps them. You know with the veteran guy like gentleman who's who cut his teeth in the scouting world still considers himself a scout lot of veteran scouts on the giants staff. So we'll see if if the old school nature of this draft actually turns out to benefit the New York giants you know when they have to select on Thursday Friday and Saturday anyway giants fans. Let's do this. I have two things for you today. I have the some audio clips from gentleman's press conference for you those will be Those were cut up by Joe. Daley owner of the Chris and Joe. Show what you'll hear are the clips from Dave with transitions provided by Joe. We thank him for that. After the after the interview with Gettleman. You'll hear an interview that I did with Scott. Right of draft countdown. As we preview. A lot of of what may or may not happen next week in the draft the NFL draft is now less than a week away. In general manager. Dave gettleman spoke to the media yet again twice in one week as you had assume a major storyline for the giants is the possibility of them. Trading back with quarterback needy teams wanting to hop up to take to a low of Alabama or Justin. Herbert of Oregon puts the giants in a really good opportunity at four. Four one of those teams to trade up into that spot. The media of course ask questions about the giants possibility of trading and also how they might approach it. It's GonNa happen very soon. You know I'm GonNa make call and You know anybody that wants to say listening when we don't have much time can't hold around and I'd like to get the brims of fields in Clayton place before you get on the clock. That would be the best thing. We're GONNA have a mock draft on on Monday. I'm sure you were on that and Belene interesting to see how it works and again it's a matter of it's really the big pieces the giants of coordinated with a approach the draft. I'm sorry trade cross. You know have to veteran guys on so I think you'll be fine Obviously as you get a third round you'll have five minutes it's GonNa be tight To try to do that. So you know to try to trace back our trade up. So we're GonNa what's going to happen is GONNA force everybody to do is is through deals before they picked up. So let's say this thing and discussion. Someone calls one gene girls. Don't WANNA TRADE UP. They go make a deal off the clock. And then if the guy is they're teaming up then go to concentrate the straight but go. I think a lot of time in war rooms. There's always a possibility for a power struggle between coaches and the general manager as well as the scouting department. Dave gettleman was asked about who the final decision would come down to. If there wasn't an agreement on who to take at various pick cattleman squashed that possibility of him having the final decision but rather it being a New York giants decision collaborative collaborative. We're not you know. Have you know we talk it through? Just talk it through. You know this is my craft drafted. I had a problem. We don't big difference of opinion with a coach. We GOT DETROIT. We discussed about coming to a consensus. It's coming to a contest in just you know when I you know wrestling society to who gets the away. No that's it's a consensus collaboration. And that's that's what the situation can addressing. The offensive line is yet again a pressing issue for this giants roster and Dave gettleman spoke a ton about the tackle class also seeking versatility. Not Being a major concern. When drafting tackles certainly doesn't hurt it's I think I mentioned it on Monday. This tackles throughout the draft. Who I'll be lot of we call it. There is a lot of talent. There isn't a doubtful guys. Played both absolute free zone quite once. Certainly not all Aba Japanese it and then you know you you know you work through a look at yourself whether it's just is no different.

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"dave gettleman" Discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

05:11 min | 4 months ago

"dave gettleman" Discussed on Big Blue View

"I think for the human beings and It was one that the giants. I don't think ever really recover from in terms of you know the big picture now. From football perspective boroughs was a huge part of that offense we we we saw the year before we saw it in the first ten games or so the season You take him out of the lineup and you know down now that changes everything that changes everything and you know. Obviously you could sit here and say well to coach should should prepare for such like that because what if burs had sprained a knee or torn knee ligament or something like that they would. It would be next man up you know after seeing burruss. I think play through the injuries that he had in the Super Bowl. He had an ankle an injury that made him a Game Day. Decision in two thousand seven. They probably figure look. The Sky can overcome anything. He's a tough hombre. He can overcome anything and this was just one thing that obviously he couldn't overcome all right. Patty last thing on this topic you and I have talked over the years. A lot about the Coughlin Manning era and missed opportunities and looking back on it thinking that that there probably should have been more winning done whether whether we're talking about Super Bowl titles or or just playoff appearances and I just look back at this. As the biggest missed opportunity of the entire era I guessing you would agree with me on that. Oh absolutely absolutely this. That team that two thousand eighteen was probably the best team in that era. Hands Down no question. I'm not just talking about the record. I'm just talking about everything. The way everything fell into place the teeth and sit astride and continued the two thousand yard rushers Brandon Jacobs and Derrick Ward You know you just look at everything up until that point and you say this team. There's no way this team could have been stopped and unfortunately it took one you know poor decision to bring everything to a screeching halt and that team never recovered from it. And it's a damn shame because it really was in my opinion. The best team up the coughing manny era. All right. Hey Patty why don't you Why don't you tell folks a little bit about what you've got coming up at at locked on giants and over at the giants country Before I let you go sure. Over on lockdown giants we're GONNA continue to preview The different draft teams were. I'm trying to get different. Guests covered college programs to come on. Give us a little bit more information and background about some of these prospects and we're also going to have some clips sweet because the giants are making available Dave gettleman and Joe Judge and a few other people to speak so we'll have some thoughts and reactions on that and then on giants country dot Com. We've got some really dynamite stuff. We are doing the final edition of what we call. Mock draft mania. Were each one of our writers puts up their version of the giants of the ideal giant. Sef around mock draft We have some features coming up. That are really cool Some exclusive interviews. We were able to get A mailbag so all kinds of stop playing for the week and we hope you'll check us out at giants country. Dot Com R. A. Patty thank you very much and we will be talking to you again soon. Thank said all right giants fans. That's our show for today. Thank you very much for listening. Please make sure that you give the Chris. Joe Show listen. There next. Episode comes up on Wednesday the next episode of the Valentine's views podcast is scheduled for Thursday. Our special guest on Thursday which will be a week before the two thousand twenty. Nfl draft begins will be Dane burglar the draft analyst for the athletic we'll talk. We'll talk to Dan about all things relating to the New York giants draft all right giants fans. Thank you very much for listening and we'll talk to you soon. Bye Bye hi. I'm Brian and I'm one of the hosts of the Amazing Avenue Network podcasts. Each week day we bring you a different podcast. That covers the New York mets from a different perspective. Every Monday. You could hear me. Steve along with cannon locus on from complex SOCLEAN'S. Will we discuss the mets minor league system? Every Tuesday an unforgettable. Join me rebel. They look back on the career of a less heralded myth. I'm Alison and along with Maggie and Linda. I host a part of their own each week. We look at things nets and social justice issues in baseball. I'm Chris and you can catch Brian and meet chatting about the current state of the mets on Amazing Avenue Audio show every Thursday and on Fridays. We Have Amazing Avenue in conversation where I top with interesting people about the New York mets. So check out the Amazing Avenue family of PODCASTS. You can get us on apple podcasts. Spotify stitcher or your culture of choice and as always. Let's go mets..

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Giants reportedly sign Blake Martinez and James Bradberry

Wayne Cabot and Paul Murnane

00:14 sec | 5 months ago

Giants reportedly sign Blake Martinez and James Bradberry

"News the giants have added two players both on defense linebacker Blake Martinez in corners James Bradberry they both get three year deals Martinez was a Green Bay Packer Bradbury come for the Panthers we was actually drafted by giants GM Dave Gettleman in twenty

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Report: New York Jets Sign Tackle George Fant To Three-Year $30 Million Deal

Wayne Cabot and Paul Murnane

00:44 sec | 5 months ago

Report: New York Jets Sign Tackle George Fant To Three-Year $30 Million Deal

"Now and I fell players had more tackles of the last three seasons the linebacker Blake Martinez and now Martinez is in New York giant the former Packer getting a three year deal worth a reported thirty million dollars the giants are also waiting cornerback James Bradberry a three year deal worth forty five million that includes thirty two million in guaranteed money Bradbury was drafted by GM Dave Gettleman in Carolina in two thousand sixteen now ESPN is reporting the tight end Levine Toilolo was next for big blue you only had two catches in thirteen games last season for the forty Niners the jets need some help on the offensive line they get it in the name of George fans reported three year deal worth thirty million fans coming over from the C. hawks he only started though twenty four games in four seasons in

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Dave Gettleman says Giants “open for business” regarding trading back in draft

Michael Wallace and Steve Scott

00:10 sec | 5 months ago

Dave Gettleman says Giants “open for business” regarding trading back in draft

"Nancy the NFL has descended on Indianapolis for the scouting combine the giants have the fourth pick in the draft and could get some value Ford dealer trade GM Dave Gettleman said they are quote open for business the jets GM Joe Douglas also met the median said he hopes Jamal Adams will be in a jets uniform for a long time in fact he said he hopes to make the Pro Bowl safety a jet for life after all the dealing by the local teams yesterday all three local hockey teams are in action tonight the outers host the Rangers at the Coliseum in the Rangers were both Alexander Georgi Evan goal after Igor sure stark ins auto accident will keep about a few weeks JG Pageau arrive from Ottawa yesterday is expected to be in the lineup tonight after signing a six year extension the devils are in Detroit to open up a five game road trip New Jersey is a stripped down team dealing many veterans over the last

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"dave gettleman" Discussed on The GM Shuffle

The GM Shuffle

11:23 min | 7 months ago

"dave gettleman" Discussed on The GM Shuffle

"I been bombarded here on the GM shuffle with tweets and Diaz people saying what about Lombardi's picks all right. This is wild card playoff weekend. The story that picture coming and to reiterate Mike's picture forty six twenty two and one this year against the spread. Some killed up right now. Michael Lombardi is dealing with a bit of an the ailing back. I shaved his big pushing. I feel like I should have my suit on. We don't run everyone pussies back when he took off when they raided that they ran Iran and they caught him. You know and he's in the jogging suit and he got us so good. It is back through his back out. But I'm not going to Puerto Rico. I can promise you that we're going to start with Dave gettleman got a gut. He's killing the giants isn't he. Listen there's nothing more harder life Mike than self reflection and self criticism and I guess on that level Dave Gettleman did state. The obvious is what he said. I'm not doing good enough as we kick off the shelf or with our make me smarter segment. He pointed to the progress. That team has made on and off the field as a justification as for being retained despite the fact course coach Pat Shurmur was fired. So here's the list of reasoning in the new night. Combat it around a little bit. But here's what cattleman saying in addition to saying I'm not doing good enough up. He did point out this. He believes they found a franchise quarterback with Daniel Jones at number six overall. He said I really believe we've done that. redoing the team scouting system both the college and Pro Levels. They've had a new grading system for prospects hiring quote four computer folks who are assisting the overhaul the back of their college. He's like a grandfather ninety-year-old get some computer folks back. They're hiring a fulltime staff psychologist ramping. Up the analytic technology piece. And this is my favorite part the the sixty eight year old even mentioning with quote a big-time analytics guy in his quest to learn and be open minded. This sounds preposterous to me. Is this guy tries to defend defended job. It was almost a Saturday night. Live skit wasn't it. I mean really. If Lorne michaels could have written it. It probably would have been right like you could not have. If you're John Mara are sitting in your office. And you're watching this guide speak for your franchise like what are you thinking. Are you thinking man. He's got this handle. He's smoothie savvy. First of all I think what we should all all learned. We should go back to the movie. I think it was patriot. Games or might have been clear. I think it's clear and present danger. A Harrison Ford. Yeah Harrison Ford when when Harrison Ford advises the president. When when he says what should I do? Those people are my friends and everybody says you got to distance yourself from. You've got to distance yourself from a right and Harrison Ford character. Jack Ryan Says No you need to say Mr President. No they were my dear friends embrace them even though they might have been involved in drug track you got to embrace them and so my advice forget them and would have been to start off the press conference with look. It's not good enough. I'm fortunate to be here. I haven't done a very good job. We are going to work diligently in trying to improve this franchise the mistakes. We've made have been accumulation of a lot of mistakes that I have to take responsibility for and I've been given the opportunity to keep going forward. You've gotTA diffuse it before they attack you you. He was like on the defensive the whole time I mean you know. He's so old school like people said you know he knows Matt Rule Him at rule work together at the giants so so I'm told reliably that would he would walk past the hall and see Matt Rule He'd say. Hey kid how are. You didn't have any relationship what's funny you mentioned. Clear and present danger. Dr Maria Jack Ryan's quote there's no sense defusing a bomb after it's already gone off and that's why I also feel like feels like this team. We already know the team is a mess. Yeah I mean think about what. He's arguing in favor of what he's done. Mike Francis quarterback. I don't believe he's done so I think Danny Jones is all right. I don't think a franchise quarterback after one year the rest of this this stuff redoing the team scouting system. Okay that bears to mind whether or not it's GonNa work out. I don't know if you're GONNA hit on these vix overhaul it all of a sudden newfound talent and then essentially saying we've we've had some more analytics do people doing analytics years out behind the curve. Are You well first of all I mean you know. Let's go to another movie. Let's go to founders right in. The movie founders founders. Ray KROC doesn't become a billionaire when he finally figures out that he's not in the Burger business he's in the real estate development business right. That can be another lesson to learn here for Dave gettleman. He should just watch movies all day but the that should be another lesson. Is that Gilman's in the information business. He's not in the talent selection business. He's in the information business. And that information allows you to then select talent so when you say you don't have any interest in analytics you're basically saying you don't have any interest in information and you're in the information business like seriously and here's the problem. Problem is analytics is not the problem right. It's not the problem if you think analytics is going to tell you who to pick. You really. Don't understand it. It's giving view information for you to decide like give an example Pat Riley of the Miami Heat if you talk to anybody in the NBA. They are one of the few teams in the NBA that does does not embrace analytical technology however their team is built with analytical technology. It's just from his instinct that he does it right He. He knows the recipes that the analytics already give him so he doesn't really need it. Bella checks kind of the same way. If you're in the business long enough you know what really matters and so of your gettleman and you could use some help on analytics like they're not going to tell you who to pick right. They're not going to tell you you have to pick this guy like embraced the information what it does for you is. It narrows the list because remember scouting is about elimination. It's never about finding. And if information can eliminate guys then that helps you know question and the bottom line resist. Remember that story. We saw the NJ DOT COM dirty dot com about Jason Garrett. Potentially being candidate for the giants is ready. Now that we know that the clapper is not gonNA be coming back do you think there's there's any chance cattleman hires Garrett first of all I don't think gentleman's gentleman is really just an instrument out there Gilman's the spokesman. He's Baghdad. Bob I mean he's out therefore John Mara he's taken the bullets but he's not. I don't think he's making any of these decisions. I think his egos been put back check. I think he's kind of you know they've tempered him down then. After that press conference he might be like Punxsutawney. Bill I mean we may never see him again. He'll just let us know six more weeks. I'd say go back your whole gentleman. you think they're ever going to put him out there against seriously like why would you do that like it just shows you like they didn't. I mean at least with Marina Oswald. The CIA spent time time with her before they put her out there right like three months with her so she could answer the questions like did the giants. Prep this guy at all like seriously he's speaking for for your franchise. He's talking about the direction we're going you've gotTa have strength. You gotTa Stanford those guys. Hey they're coming to kill you. You gotTA stand in front of you say hey look man. Here's what we're doing. Do the Leonard Williams trae. Well we just traded for them because we wanted to get information. You traded a three and a five information. Meanwhile you're telling me you don't like analytics explain all how this all works right like At some point standing in front of them and say we traded for let it was. You think he's a good player. You know it also helps that. We've learned more about him as a human being before we decide what we're going to invest in them. Hey the three and five. I'm not worried about losing the three and five. I'll trae down in the second round. I'll pick up extra assets. I'M NOT WORRIED I'll compensate for that but with the advantage that I've gained in this significant and we're going to move forward instead of embracing like he just took a beating. I mean literally if there would have been a referee. They would've called the fight. They were to call the fight. That cleanest gloves put his mouthpiece mouthpiece back in and say go back to your corner seriously that it was embarrassing. I people texting me all day. Have you seen this press conference like if you WANNA learn and what not to do like if I was a PR executive. I would use to get him in press conference for exactly what not to do exactly what not to do because he did nothing to make take the giant fan base fielder's confidence in moving forward in fact he actually heard it right. That's the bottom line. If you're looking for leadership you want stable leadership you want somebody who believes that we can lead us forward forward and if you watch that it's a rudderless ship that's what it looks like for the New York giants right now and it goes back to. John Mayors not wanting to change because if John Mara would have gotten rid of gentleman that would have meant. It's time to change now. They say they've changed the grading system seriously. Okay like they really. Haven't I mean you can tinker with it. But they're going to be a size. Bt they've always he's had a sports psychologist I mean they were on the cutting edge of that years ago they are on the cutting edge of athleticism. They used to have this device called the box. We brought it to Cleveland Jerry Angelo. who was a scout for them a personnel guy? They had a way of testing athleticism and it was really valuable. And we brought it to Cleveland with us and we used it and it was valuable for us and we were able to get some athletic. Let guys on our team. Because of it that were kind of underlying the giants in the past have been on the forefront but they are like family most family businesses. What happens they they have too many people in the family running the family? They can't really make good decisions and they can't think outside their own agenda. They can't come up with new songs. That's the issue yeah too. How many cooks in the kitchen? And that's the story of the giants meantime. The browns making some moves. We continue our make me smarter segment as they dismissed. Gm John Dorsey days. After firing head coach Freddie Eighty kitchen so the team's ownership sit met with Dorsey over the last forty eight hours prior to the move to discuss his role failed to reach an agreement on a position that would have enabled him to remain with the team. Brown's rounds went thirteen. Eight and one over door sees two full seasons of the team. And according to Cleveland Dot coms Mary Kay Cabot Dorsey. Top football executives had also been at odds with Brown achieve strategy officer Paul Deepa Desta who oversees the analytics idea but the baseball guy eighty odd done stuff with a match. The dodgers apparently testament. He's got so much juice there in Cleveland Cleveland. As they stayed with him and Dorsey out well he's also the guy that said Carson Wentz wasn't a top twenty quarterback. Look I think the reason that has them like Steve Podesta was he feels like like he is truly an executive. I think if you know John Dorsey. WHO's a really good scout? I mean John. Dorsey can evaluate talent now. The complaints that I've echoed on. GM Shuffle for. We're all season have been Johnson ability way character in John thinks like a scout. He acts like a Scotty. Behaves like a scout and I think has them saul his talent in terms of evaluating talent. I want but he couldn't run an organization which is one of the reasons he got fired in Kansas City was because to handle the whole thing. It was challenging for him and he needs somebody to tell him. Hey that's not a really good idea. I see the talent but it's going to be hard on the coach. That wasn't Dorsey strength. Dorsey was operating his Al Davis in modern times so again Jimmy has to make a change. He's infatuated with deep ADESCO. Even though deep Agusto cost them the Shawn Watson I mean. Look let's face it. You know you can talk about Baker Mayfield all oh you want I mean. They traded the winds pick. They said he wasn't a top player. Then they traded that pick to Houston for Carson wentz. Now all the analytical people love the fact that he got all these draft picks but the team's it's not any better at the offensive line is horrendous the skill players. They've got they've saw. It hasn't come through the draft Beckham Jarvis Landry so I mean for me. The Brown start all over again. And what's most concerning. Is Jimmy House on the owner. Still hasn't learned. He still wants to set up his organization like the United States government. He wants a house. That's it's filled with Republicans. He wants a Senate that's filled with Democrats and he wants to be the president he wants to be able to make decisions and that's why they're always in gridlock. That's why there's always bickering between the two. That's why there's always nothing getting really done because he can't form a consensus and that's the issue the NFL is not a consensus building institution institution. It's a paramilitary supreme commander. One bring the information to the top. Let it float to the top..

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Giants go all-in with GM Dave Gettleman, who 'won't be an issue'

NFL Live

02:34 min | 7 months ago

Giants go all-in with GM Dave Gettleman, who 'won't be an issue'

"The giants opted to part ways yesterday with head coach Pat Shurmur after two seasons and a nine twenty three record team though announced the GM Dave Gettleman will return for twenty twenty and also spearhead the search for new head coach here as gettleman earlier New York today before we go any further. I just wanted to be clear. Pat Shurmur as fine. A man as I've ever worked with there are many reasons whether New York football giants who've been the current state and I take my share of cup building. John said yesterday I have had Mrs however given where we started in December seventeen. We've made progress in many areas on an off the field. We're encouraged by and see as a sound foundation for the team to come. Look there have been Mrs. There've been some some hits. There would be those that argue. They have quarterback running the pieces in place rob making it. I would think desirable situation for a lot of head coaching candidates. Yeah I mean if you look at what they have there. You have a franchise quarterback who's very young so if you're offensive minded coach maybe you you'd take that as a positive. Look I have a very one of the top running running backs in the NFL right now. Very Explosive Young Guy. That's going to be on the team for a while. And you look at your quarterback I think the the hard part would be the GM staying so maybe he would have more influence on personnel decisions so that could be an issue but as far as just players their offense they have the keys. That are there for winning. But defensively they're going to have to rebuild on defense. I'm sorry Dan. The point was made yesterday that while they announce it ghetto ones returning and could be in a tough spot if there are potential candidates out there and talked about this that want more of a say you know. There's a new age here. Where head coaches make a lot of the decisions and now they're kind of backed into a corner feel like that's the case around the League Eh? You know whenever you're talking about the coaching hiring process. And you know let's say we're discussing the giants situation in your talking with other perhaps candidates or other head coaches from other teams teams about what's going on. They'll always say did he get hope. Is he getting full. Control getting power. It's always the first question people ask. Because that's what they want because we've seen what happens when a head coach. She doesn't feel like he's the one that can make the decisions and it becomes frustrating and it usually doesn't work out. I feel like the team that allow their coach to say and work in tandem with the GM GM those are the ones that usually are successful or the giants head. Coaching search has begun. They've made inquiries around the league will continue to watch

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New York Giants fire coach Pat Shurmur but reinstall GM Dave Gettleman

Michael Wallace and Steve Scott

00:34 sec | 7 months ago

New York Giants fire coach Pat Shurmur but reinstall GM Dave Gettleman

"Son John giants GM Dave gentleman met with the media today and spoke among other things about what he and the giants brass are looking for is they conduct a search for a new coach head coach was they can bring together staff is through the aspic we need a head coach with leadership when the head coach with a great and you know within with intelligence and we you know one I can connect with these players as far as the list of names to replace Pat Shurmur the team will reportedly meet with former Packers coach Mike McCarthy this weekend they've also reportedly asked the ravens for permission to interview their defensive coordinator wink

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Report: Browns Request Permission To Interview Josh McDaniels About Head Coaching Vacancy

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

00:48 sec | 7 months ago

Report: Browns Request Permission To Interview Josh McDaniels About Head Coaching Vacancy

"Coaching news out there. If you haven't seen it this morning Pat Shurmur it has been let go from the New York giants but the giants have also let us know that Dave gettleman will remain as the GM so we know that that's happening. We're also starting starting to hear some of the names names of people that are being requested for interviews. Adam schefter pointed out the Cleveland. Browns have requested permission to interview a Josh mcdaniels. We knew that they've also requested permission to interview Ravens. Offensive Coordinator Greg Roman for their head coaching vacancy. So that's one there. They can take care of that interview now in fact because the ravens have a bye week it gets a little. It'll trickier with Josh mcdaniels. Who appears to be a hot candidate for several different teams? He is on the list of candidates for the giants. He's on the list of the the candidates for the the Browns as well as you and for the

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"dave gettleman" Discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

04:40 min | 1 year ago

"dave gettleman" Discussed on Big Blue View

"Off season the decisions made by Dave gettleman all of that controversial the decisions unpopular ones in in many ways what a lot of people saw as head scratchers all of that to be honest over the course of the off season has been kind of tiresome to talk about and and that's not really where I wanna go at this point but as we enter training camp I look at it and m I the only one who I don't think this giants team is is a championship contending team. I don't think they're gonNA make take a deep playoff run but am I the only one who is a little bit more optimistic than than many of the of the the naysayers about this team about the direction of this team at least as as we begin a new season. I don't think so ed I mean you gotTa look at baby steps for this team. You know look it took years for the team to fall into the into the sewer. It's GONNA take years for to come back. I mean very rarely does a team. Go from from worse too. I I mean I it's such a challenge but you know look you can look at last year and you could say that they came close and if it weren't for call here this and that they're they might have had a better record than what they had. They might have gone eight nate instead of five and eleven but I think you know the giants Dave Gettleman Pat Shurmur they had built a locker locker room that they feel is conducive to winning and they are optimistic about it and now you know it is up to the coaching staff to you know design schemes and plays and whatnot and put these players in a position to to capitalize on their talent so I am with you. I think there is reasonably optimistic. In terms of making baby steps forward. I don't see this team necessary sliding back unless they get ransacked by injuries injuries but I'm with you. I don't think this is a team that you know is going to go deep in the playoffs if it should qualify and I think I think they have an outside chance of being a wildcard but you know. I just don't think they're ready to make a run. Patty I was thinking and I did a post for big blue view that will actually hit a little bit <unk> a little bit later today as we record this <hes> on Tuesday morning and the the focus of of that piece is basically on progress for the two thousand nineteen giants Gettleman Pat Shurmur talked about the talked about building. They talked about going from three winds to five wins in all of the close losses forces and for me. I have a hard time saying okay. The giants have to hit X. number of victories to make progress and and that's for a couple of reasons that's because of the potential for an Eli Manning Daniel Jones transition transition and that's also because there's so much youth in so many new players on defense is there I mean how would you define what progress for this team. What might progress look like? Is it a number of wins or is it something other than that that you might look for. There's a couple of things I mean. Ultimately right. Wins are going to be the definitive measuring stick but I think the other thing you have to look at is. How many plays did they not make last year that they're now making this year? Are they better against the run. Are they able to get more pressure on the quarterback. Are they able to connect them. Were you know I don't know deep passes. <hes> are they able to to get more yards after contact. You know their little statistical things that you can say okay you know what the offense align was indeed better because you know they allowed X.. Number of pressures this year versus last year so there are a little tiny things you can look at those things will start to add up <hes> but ultimately you're right again. Wins and losses is is the bay measuring stick. The people going to look at and say you know. This team has progressed store. This team has regressed and I think we have probably talked about this before but entering training camp I think the defense to me is actually a bigger question than the offense simply because there's so many moving parts..

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Scott Boras, Baseball And Murray discussed on CBS Sports Radio

CBS Sports Radio

01:14 min | 1 year ago

Scott Boras, Baseball And Murray discussed on CBS Sports Radio

"We were told here's quarterback class. Not that great. Because of the quarterbacks that we saw last year Mayfield. Darnold, Allen rose in Jackson. There was a lot more excitement last year with the quarterbacks this year, though for all this talk of the quarterbacks aren't that great? The quarterbacks always dominate the conversation that draft they do Murray goes one who could have predicted that five months ago. And Scott Boras told y'all all he's always going to play baseball baseball baseball. And the next thing, you know, Murray who got picked in the top ten of the baseball draft ends up going number one in the football draft. Then you have the giant surprising everyone taking January Jones at number six and a giant Vince every yesterday because I've been critical of the organization and been critical. Dave, Gettleman even. Before the draft. And they said well the rest of the draft wasn't terrible. And I explained it to them. That's nice player. Not a pass rusher though. The Andre Baker nice player cornerback out of Georgia. They got the edge rusher from Old Dominion. We'll see what he will do Julian love from Notre Dame. Okay. You could tell me they had a a nice draft.

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Giants GM: 'I Know for a Fact' 2 Teams Would've Taken Daniel Jones Before No. 17

Tony Paige

01:39 min | 1 year ago

Giants GM: 'I Know for a Fact' 2 Teams Would've Taken Daniel Jones Before No. 17

"A lot of talk about the giants Vic who better to talk about it. Then folded Tino covers the Josh Ross at the fan, Paul. How are you? And it's not really football season yet. Oh, it's always football season. Tony come on now. Great to talk to you. I'm doing well, and certainly missi conversations. Yes. Let me talk about about Daniel Jones because I was wondering the other teams looking at him. That's why the giants didn't wait till take them into later in the first round. Well, let's put it this way. GM Dave Gettleman asserted today. He said guys, I'm not gonna pulling any punches. I couldn't necessarily talk as much about it the other day, but I'm telling you now, we knew for a fact a fact that to other teams were absolutely positively going to take Jones before seventeen. So there was no way that the giants could wait the seventeen if they really wanted the player. He also said that he was going to stay at six and he was going to make that pick. He had absolutely no intentions of moving down from six or from moving up from seventeen when the player fell to sex that was it. He was taking the guy. This is the guy who he really believes in and the only thing I can say Tony. And I look I graded Jones myself as late second round pick. I was flabbergasted and shocked not that they picked him because I knew he was on their radar, but that he wound up being in the six slot. But he was what I'll tell you any of us if we have conviction in particular belief in doing our jobs, and then we don't pull the trigger on it. Then we haven't done our job

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1st round of the 2019 NFL draft is complete

Mut & Callahan

07:21 min | 1 year ago

1st round of the 2019 NFL draft is complete

"Us to the first round is in the books could show for the NFL last night. Just goes to show you the popularity of this league. And I I know I keep harping on this. But it's bears repeating there were a lot of people who made a lot of bones for themselves by predicting the death of this league, eventually real demise of this leak, but there were over one hundred thousand people if not close to two hundred thousand people that descended on natural last night that that went very very deep down Broadway. They were everywhere rooftop bars. They were coming out of windows. They were pouring off of bridges just to see this. It was let me make this clear. This was big. Business by the league. This could have been done behind closed doors. No one needs to watch the draft. No one needs to make it. You don't have. They don't even have to make a television show the sporting event that they do that has to be a television show that has to be for the public. That's how you make your money. The business side of this picking players that doesn't have to be a show that doesn't have to be on stage. That doesn't have to be a festival that could have been done in a in a bar in a ballroom in New York City like it used to years past, but because people want this product because the league wants so wants to connect with its fans make the fans this is why the big celebrations over the last couple of years they've taken this thing on the road. In essence, this is this is become the NFL's big party for the public a Super Bowl not so much because you're bringing in fan bases of two teams. Right. If you're a dolphins fan, you just don't go to the Super Bowl to hang out. But you can go to the drafting you can go to wherever city that the draft is having and you could hang out, and I saw jerseys from every team last night everywhere. It was awesome. It was my first draft was I loved it. But but the picks over the money is made for this the picks, or what is the talking point not the rain, not the band, not the Goodell booing, not the, you know, the colorful fans that came out in their costumes. What mattered was the picks and Kyla Murray going number one set this draft up to be normal. But then the raiders kind of made made a big move with the fourth pick. They took us lean Farrell at Clemson the edge rusher. Now, this was the surprise pick that John. Talked about now. Listen for Rosie good play. A really good players. A first team all American. You won the Ted Hendricks award for the best defensive end in college football. He played for a defense. That was one of the top defenses in college football for the top team in college football. Okay. But he could have been had in the twenties. They really liked him. Or at least wanted to make a statement that they were going to get him. But he wasn't projected to be a top five pick. Now, why the raiders made him a top five pick? When he wasn't projected. Who knows maybe the don't listen to mock draft guys all the time. Maybe it's because they don't listen the pundits. They are really they day. See something that they think other teams are going to see like they are. So they do their draft board. They watch him. They watch it. He's a beast. They watch him play. He's great. They want him at four. But they think other teams want him at six or seven or five or whatever. So they have to feel like they make the move. If this is the guy they really want. They get them. Now. Here's the thing. I can criticize the raiders you can criticize the raiders for making that pick early because they had two picks later on. But maybe the reality is that the two guys in the twenties, which we'll talk about later that they knew that they could get there. And those guys they really wanted to. So in essence, I can't fall to team forgetting who they want, but I can criticize where you get that player. And none bigger than what the giants. Did it six? This to me was the shocking move of the draft. This had everybody in the media Senegal. Daniel Jones of Duke getting picked in the six spot from the New York Giants who had the seventeenth pick in the draft and could have gotten them there. I thought need a huge mistake here. Jones. Is a David cut cliff product. He is a manning passing academy product the giants like the way he threw it pro day, but you don't make this move at six. There is defense of galore on the board. And you've got to go get Josh Allen is on the table. And you let him go you see how fast Jacksonville made their pick. When they took Daniel Jones. Josh Allen Kentucky was on the board for the giants. They could have gotten one of the best edge rusher in the draft. And they went quarterback a position right now. This very second. They don't need. They would probably have liked but don't need because the move you made. Here wasn't just getting a good old quarterback tobacco ally. Manning for couple years. This is going to be your franchise guy. Are you that Schorr Daniel Jones at Duke is your franchise guy? If you have manning plate next year, you could have set yourself up for getting Jalen hurts Jake from two tons of Loa any other quarterbacks. They you still can don't get me wrong. You could pull one Arezzo pulled and get your second quarterback. But normally that's not how it's done. I can see the New York media, and they're already started. Daniel Jones is the least popular draft pick. The giants have had in a long time. Hey, must've really fell in love with because I don't get this one at all. And I know I could be nice. Oh, he did really good at two key. He throws a good ball. He was accurate up above you. Just still don't make the play here. Dave Gettleman smarter than this. I praised the Gettleman higher coming from the Carolina Panthers to New York, but but can eat does. He know what he's doing with. Does. He have a plan for the for the New York Giants for this football team. Because I don't see it. And the other thing about about where the giants are going here. Is again, you just put ally manning on the clock. Now, I've been telling you, this is this is why I wouldn't have done this. If I was to get my my franchise quarterback with the sixth pick. If you wanna get a quarterback just to get a quarterback get him at seventeen or in around two or three. Now, drew lock is available for crying out loud. But by making the statement, you've put ally manning on the clock. Luckily for manning, this isn't a popular pick with giants fans. Because if it was a popular pick with giants fans, then Eli is gonna feel the pressure next season. And he's going to feel his career and his light on his career diminish after everything he's done for New York ending by being benched for this kid and never getting his job back. Luckily, this is not a popular pick. And maybe get him into saying this is the guy that has to learn and grow, but we like his long-term

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Odell Beckham fires back at Giants GM's comments in Twitter tirade, says he's only a 'cancer' for a 'losing' team

Waddle & Silvy

00:47 sec | 1 year ago

Odell Beckham fires back at Giants GM's comments in Twitter tirade, says he's only a 'cancer' for a 'losing' team

"Yes. Odell Beckham junior says on Twitter that the giants are okay. With losing former giants receiver went on tweeting spree Monday night took offence to the perception that he's a cancer in the locker room. He also expressed his discontent with New York. Giants general manager Dave Gettleman coach, Pat Shurmur. He said, I guess the fine ask anyone of my teammates of who. I was as a teammate and a man and a person. Yes, I'm cancer to a place. That's okay. With losing. Because I wanna win that badge. Or absolutely correct. I have heard. Not that I have an in in the giants locker room. But I heard that there are a lot of people that lights Odell Beckham junior in that locker room and thought he was a good team

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NFL Draft 2019: Notable Picks from Latest Expert Mock Drafts

CBS Sports Radio

09:37 min | 1 year ago

NFL Draft 2019: Notable Picks from Latest Expert Mock Drafts

"In reality isn't a difficult project. What is going to happen when we don't know in particular with this draft. We don't know what's going to happen. The number one pig came to get this thing over with. So he could really find out what's going on as opposed to all these different mock drafts that are out there. I'm right there with you. And I want to thank you for allowing me to come on the show. But it's a lot of group thing group three group out there. And that's the biggest thing that you see right now. It's a lot of my drafts. Everybody's just tired of becomes tired exercise. And we just wanna get it up to see the actually van happy. Now. How many have you done yourself, Jordan? I went back and looking I see one that was in January. Did you think that was your first one that was released pretty it's pretty close to what would be current stuff? Now, how many mock drafts have you come up with from January till now so I'll like to do one at the midway point before the combine. And then I do another one the week of the draft. So I'll be coming out with another one probably on Thursday morning. Okay. Now, how significant of a change would you have overall? He was certain things going to be changed. But the big the big pigs. You think there's going to be significant change from yours? The original ones. Now, I think there will be and I think it's going to start with calamari, and they both have those guys flip flop. Out in Nate both at the second big. And then we'll see what happens from there. Okay. So do you think your and we're talking about Jordan Reed and L draft staff writer for cover one host of the draft board podcast. You think for sure it is a foregone conclusion cliff Kingsbury in the Zona cardinals are going to draft collar with the number one pick. I don't wanna say it's a foregone conclusion because it at the same time last year everyone thought that Sam darnold was going to be the big to the Cleveland Browns just a year ago. So I think it's probably about seventy five percent chance of going to the cardinals. But we all know we just have to buckle up and see what happens during the drag because things could change at any moment. You mentioned some touched on before. Why does that keep happening years ago? It was Goff and Wenzel. They're not going to be top guys. Boom. What do you know team straight up? They go one to last year was all about darnold. Nobody knew Baker Mayfield gonna go number one. And then he did this year. It's all all about Murray, and even has to a certain degree where people were saying, oh has is going to be gone before. Let's say number six the giants pick. Now, all of a sudden, it sounds like not only may be there. But the giants may not even want them. They'll take Daniel Jones with number sakes. Why does that happen? Why are people so all over the place with quarterbacks in particular in these drafts leading up to the actual draft those quarterbacks other most important position, not only football. Sports period. It has nobody has a clue about football. They know exactly what the quarterback does and how they operate. So with that being said with these quarterbacks flopping over the past few months and even weeks, it just shows how much lack of infield that we do have. And we're not ineffective. So we're not supposed the curtain back and meet with these guys person or gets to know them personally. So we don't know what's going on in the mind that they've got them in or these other executives going on around the league, Jordan. I respect the honesty right there. You're right. Still fun. It's all about so fun to read about I get and we got to do it, and it's fun to project different things. But I guess the reality is without let's say, there's no Andrew luck there, and nobody knows for certain who's going number one without that. It's hard to project these things and the GM's arm can give anybody Dave Gettleman not gonna come out and tell Joe giant fan or whoever in the media what he's going to do it his pick. Why should he right? Jordan. Right. I mean, we saw Jon Gruden sin their whole scouting staff home. So it just shows you just how secretive these plans are and no team really wants their hands shown or what is going to be revealed on draft. They so I think we're gonna we're gonna see a while. Right. If I'm not sure exactly what the giants are going to do. But I think they're going to get a lot of backlash if they somehow don't find the quarterback future. Whether that's at six or at seventeen so let's get into some specifics here, we're talking about Jordan Reed NFL draft staff writer for cover one host of the draft board podcast. You mentioned you think the cardinals are going to take collar Murray with the number one pick. Do you think that's a mistake? I was talking before about how an organization can hire new head coach draft a quarterback in the first round last year guy. What was the best quarterback coming out less? Your Josh Rosen. And then a you later fire the head coach cliff kings, Mary you could certainly argue whether that was a good higher. Not. And I don't think it is. And now take collar Murray with the number one overall picks. Do you think will be good pick a good move for this car does organization? To keep that number one pick and take collar Murray. I think it would be and I say or I'll put it this way cliff Kingsbury, everyone likes to point out just how fancy as offense is and how well operated at Texas Tech. But it really didn't work like a lot of people were saying that it worked should have work and with cliff Kingsbury, he's probably gonna get gonna get one chance to be an NFL head coach and what better way into your guy in there. He has no ties to Josh Rosen. He was not there when the team drafted him last year, and he has he doesn't have a freelance relationship with him. But on the flip side with Colin Murray. We've seen him and his offense and everybody seems famous video circulating on. If cliff gains vary ever had the overall selection that he without question would say column, Mary so I think with Kyla Mary why such a great fit in this offense. If you think about all the great young quarterback that entered the league over the past few years and even going back to last year with Baker Mayfield. Sam Donald Josh Allen. Even Lamar Jackson to an extent all of them have have had one. Thing in common, and that's having the ability to create all script or being able to operate and when things break down, and that's exactly what column or is able to do. But with Josh Rosen and the state of Arizona Cardinals off it's a front. I think if they're able to select calamari he can kinda relaxed weakness that they have a front just because of the lack just because of the -bility he has to create scripts though, I think he would be a really good fit in Arizona. Interesting fascinated see a if they keep the big if they do in fact, take him and see what happens with Josh Rosen. And then obviously how it's going to pan out because Kingsbury Murray will be must watch to see how that works out for the cardinals. If in fact, they team up who's the team most likely to trade down from two or three there's a lot of rumors teams will to trade down on this. Good debt specially defensively. Do you see the Niners? Do you see the jets maybe trading out of their top spots here? I think the night is it gonna take if they're just because they haven't used need off of the they don't have anybody there. Now, they did trae for deport but they still need some help off of the age. I think they're sit along the interior would force Buckner Eric St. and now with Solomon Thomas transition inside. So I think they're fine on the interior but outside of D Ford. They don't have any other threat coming off the edge. So you plays both in there with that young up and coming into your your, and then you pair would be Ford. I think that would be a really good combination of front now. One thing that's a really interesting spot is the New York Jets at three because is very wide open out there that they wanna trade back just because they don't think there's a lot of value there at that. But they only have six peaks. So they wanna get back and maybe regain some of those recoup some of those that they had to trade for last year when they acquire them darnold. So maybe they wanna trade back and still get that edge rusher that they need even if Quinton Williams or Josh Allen is there. And maybe they have those guys graded similarly on their boards day. Okay. With trade him back. Maybe six or seven is still getting a guy like a month with or somebody of that nature. Now who would be the team most likely to trade up with the jets for number three. See that's the biggest problem because this similar to last year's draft is that there's no quarterback that teams wanna trade up for third spot like a Sam darnold from last year. So it takes two to party and with a trade. They don't have a partner right now. I think but maybe some team has Haskins on their board. Maybe like Cincinnati at eleven I could see them or Washington trading. Alway from fifteen up to three now with a lot of draft capital. But I'm just using example, we have teams that could straight up. So that overall selection, right? And that's why it's intriguing when you look at what the jets having that number three big rumor to be wanting to trade out of it. I mean, if they don't think that Alan is war that I don't know what they're thinking there. I wanna get more picks back. Maybe get good players. Let's say the do trade, in fact with the giants team that, you know, look, it was rumored last year that that could possibly happen is rumored again this year. Because the giants won't their quarterback. Do you think the giants need to trade up from six to get there the quarterback that they want? I know Gettleman throwing out a lot of smokescreens here. But ultimately, do you think has gains or Jones will be there at number six for the giants thing Jones definitely will be and odd just don't really know about Haskins right now. Because last week we saw that he was going to be a top five selection this week. They're saying, right. Fifteen. So there's a lot of rumors out there. And we really don't know. But if the giants won't be sure I think they should trade up to the third spot to secure their guy. Just because if easier guys go hitting trade up and get him and don't wait on anybody. Just in case team jumps you. And now you're gonna be stuck maybe reaching on through lock or even Daniel Jones who do you like better out of those? I'm assuming you like Murray the best out of the quarterbacks. Give me your take on Haskins Jones. So I have it Murray at the top. And then I have happiness, and then I have locked and then have Danny Jones right after that. And I'm a big fan of the top two guys in Haskins emerge. And I say that because they are a bit different as far as this guilty. I don't know we talked about earlier folks here. What I love about him is. Yes, he's a one year start.

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Dave Gettleman: 'I'm Not Going to Force a Pick' for Giants' Needs in NFL Draft

The Rich Eisen Show

00:28 sec | 1 year ago

Dave Gettleman: 'I'm Not Going to Force a Pick' for Giants' Needs in NFL Draft

"Going in. Dave Gettleman also spoke, of course, always talking about quarterbacks when you're talking about the New York Giants for being the quarterback club of of a team in this kind of a market back is a load is a mental load, and you've got really vet out the backgrounds of these guys just like being the head coach of this team is a load being a quarterback so load to more than just looking at a guys physical talent to buy his

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NBA Draft 2019: Latest 1st-Round Order, Predictions

Golic & Wingo

09:03 min | 1 year ago

NBA Draft 2019: Latest 1st-Round Order, Predictions

"And ladies and gentlemen, we have a new mock draft out Mel kiper Jr's three point. Oh is here with us. And we are looking forward to the draft. Mel will join us in just about an hour to talk about the new mock draft. But there have been some changes in the draft specifically one less quarterback. Now going in the first round then in mel's two point oh mock draft. So we have four in the two point oh mock draft with Daniel Jones from Duke rounding out of the last pick of the draft to the patriots in the first round of thirty two. There are only three quarterbacks now in the first round, according to mel's latest mock. And obviously a retirement might be a big reason why and the quarterbacks have changed as well. Right. As far as where they're they're going. Well, Cuyler he still has Tyler going number one derozan. Well in his last draft Cuyler going number thirteen to the dolphins. So now and this draft he hasn't going number one. He had. Dwayne Haskins going number six at a giant Kyle Murray. Going number thirteen to the to the dolphins. Drew lock going fifteen to the Redskins and Daniel Jones going thirty two to the patriots. So as you mentioned Daniel Jones now out of the first round, according to the latest mock draft by Mel kiper, just three quarterbacks Murray number one. The main says Dwayne Haskins at number six, and you start to hear reports that the giants may go defense was six and then was seventeen go quarterback. But right now twain Haskins at six and then drew lock sitting there at number thirteen for the dolphins. Does the only three quarterbacks in this latest first round. Yeah. Going to be very interesting because we know what the giants listen one thing. Dave Gettleman has made very clear he does not feel beholden to tell us his plan. And so I don't feel overly beholden to believe. A lot of what we're hearing coming out of the giants can't because if you've got a guy who's basic messages trust me, I got this. Well, then we understand he doesn't feel like he has to tell us the truth. So as we hear these things. Coming out. We also understand this time of year is about deception to an extent it's trying to manipulate the draft order trying to manipulate the opinions of certain players. So that you can try and put yourself in the best position to get the guys you ultimately want. So it makes it difficult to try and read the tea leaves it is although I have to say on cattlemans behalf. He said all of last spring saquon Barkley is a generational talent with the second overall pick. And that's where he went. Look, I think we all agreed. There has to be a quarterback in the giants future. Whether it's at six or seventeen trade now Cleveland, but it would not surprise me in the least if Dave Gettleman waited until the second or third round to take a quarterback this Dave Gettleman, he created that created, but he he made the term a more of a vernacular in the NFL draft hog molly's when he was the GM of the Carolina Panthers. He loves the big guys to hog mollies. And let's be honest. This draft is going to be decided outside of Kyla Murray. More than anything else about the big defensive lineman in this draft. The hog Molly is on the defensive side of the ball. So depending on your draft grades for your quarterbacks you could take one of those at six and then a quarterback at seventeen it all depends again on your on your draft great. If twain Haskins is highest on the board and draft grades. You don't pass that up. If you have a Dwayne Haskins drew lock. And whatever other quarterback equal in grades. You know, maybe use that seventeen pick baby can trade it up somehow to get one of those guys as I said, this always comes down to grades. Do. You have a choice amongst grades. Are you close enough in quarterbacks where if you don't get one you try and get the other? But we'll see we'll see, you know, one of the biggest changes in from the last two this for Mel was they had the patriots taken Daniel Jones a quarterback, and this one I serve Smith junior the tight end from Alabama going, and that would not be shocking at all you have really three out of the top tight end Hopkinson the kid from Iowa teammate, Noah Fant, and then Smith junior all three likely to go in the first round a three first round tight end to on the same team come on. And what would that tell you as we saw? The patriots jump into the first round and take a running back and Sony Michelle at the end of that. And now to see in the next year three tight ends going. We've talked about this. However, you want to split it. Last year were Quinton Nelson. Went in the top ten in the draft as an offensive guard. We saw roquan Smith going the top ten as a middle linebacker. The middle of the field is worthy. NFL is being built right now. And other teams are starting to catch up to what the patriots have done for years. The way that we've seen teams export that specific area and three tight ends in the first round would hammer that home not denying that. They are guys that are certainly probably more talented than usual tight end groups. We're used to seeing but it's also about value. It's why you see running back taking it to overall by the giants last year. I mean, the other thing is I think they're more interior linemen in this first round then quarterbacks right? Like, a not tackles guards and centers. There are more of those according to males latest mock than there are actual quarterbacks being taken which would be very unusual. So the top five in this new draft that Mel kiper put out is Kylie Murray. Number one of the cardinals Nick both the D N number two to the forty Niners. Number three. Josh Allen the outside backing backer pass rusher going to the jet number four Cornyn Williams. To the raiders and number five guy making a pretty big jump. Devon white going to Tampa Bay at five in the last mock draft he was number eleven to the Bengals now in mel's draft. He is sitting at number five number six twain Haskins seven Joon Taylor. The offense attack from Florida going to Jacksonville sweat, the D N going to the lions at eight Sean, Gary the D N going into the bills from Michigan and TJ Hopkinson. The tight end going to the Broncos at number ten. Here's here's what I wanted to talk to Mel about and one of the issues that I have laid on me big fella with with this draft comes, you know, some some point and one of them is there are few prospects in new first round projection who are making their debuts because of their combine performances. There are four guys who have jumped into mel's first round who weren't out there before again based on the combine combine performances. I don't understand that. I don't I don't understand that. If you wanna say. You looked at the combine to go back and look at tape of them. But to say, they're combine performance jumped them up that doesn't compute to me. Well, I think that's I think that's the assumption though, is because of their performance you went back and look and that. That's fair. That's why I want to ask them. How did this? Make you go back and study them more. Because if you're just basing things off the combine I got a real issue with that. Yeah. I I don't think you would do that or teams. But at the same time, you look at the positions of the majority of the players that would be involved in that. And I think this could be true for teams as well. It's interior offense. It is right. Three interior offensive linemen Terry McLaren the wide receiver, but when it comes to interior offensive lineman. You wanna talk about an area where the scouting grossly lags behind to actually great and overall draft. It's a difficult area for a lot of people to see and understand because you don't have the benefit of a lot of stats. You don't have the benefit of even the combine members necessarily always translating to production. So when those guys go and they paying and they flag in the model somewhere for what they do at the combine. And then you go back and spend some more time looking at a guy like Lindstrom who wasn't going to be a big name. He wasn't like, you know, Gary bradberry from North Carolina State won the Remington award this year. Like that guy was a stud Boston College was a middling. Okay. ACC team this year. So Lindstrom wasn't getting the credit. He deserved even being as good as he is. So you go back now, and even these NFL teams, maybe we're late to the party on some of these guys all of a sudden start giving them an extra. That's why I want to ask I just wanna make sure with Mel that because I'm just reading from the combine performance, and again, let's put a name. To those you mentioned McLaren the wide receiver who is one of the others. Chris Lynch reminder, you just mentioned from Boston College now. Number twenty one to Seattle Eric McCoy interior linemen going number twenty two to Baltimore. Right and the Garrett bradberry. The Senator from North Carolina State who is you mentioned one the Remington award is the best center in the country number thirty one to the LA Rams where they have an aging center, and John John Sullivan. And that was that was one of the things have been saying for the Rams the last couple of years that dynasties been built on the interior. If you land a guy like that good, Lord or you winning out it is. So we'll see how that plays out. Now, the one thing that I find interesting he he has drew lock the third quarterback Mel dozen his latest mock going thirteen in Miami. I'm telling you don't take out Denver at ten in Cincinnati of eleven in play for quarterbacks. I mean. Yeah. Denver made the play for Joe flacco. But John Elway has messed this up a couple of times with all due respect. I mean, that's just outside of getting Peyton Manning. He has not figured out the quarterback spot there at ten they might be in play for quarterback. And you have Andy Dalton with his situation with the Bengals and his contract situation. I, you know, I think that there's a really good chance that they could be in play with a quarterback there, by the way, by the way, Mel kiper Jr's mock draft not the biggest item related to the draft this week. That will have news for you guys. What more on that coming up later? This week

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Dwayne Haskins Throws with Giants Attending Pro Day

Big Blue View

01:40 min | 1 year ago

Dwayne Haskins Throws with Giants Attending Pro Day

"Lot of pro days going on this week twos. Day. A large giants contingent including defensive coordinator James Becher was at Alabama on Wednesday. The Ohio State pro day where Dwayne Haskins was of course, the center of attention was attended by another large contingent of giants representatives head coach Pat Shurmur couple of the scouts several of the assistant coaches there to check out, you know, the the many prospects, you know, that that attend Ohio State, and we're working out today. We heard that the giants also had had dinner on Tuesday night with Dwayne Haskins. I'm not sure what to read into all of that. I look at it. Like the giants are simply doing due diligence getting to know as much as they possibly can about all of these guys entering the draft. So and also on Thursday as I said coming up, the Missouri pro day withdrew lock. I would intimidate once again, a large contingent of giants representatives to be in Missouri to watch lock workout. So, you know, it's it's an interesting time. You think maybe there isn't a whole lot going on. You know, the the main part of free agency is done the draft is a few weeks away. But there are still things going on still lots of intrigue, you know. And you never know what's going to happen. You never know what Dave Gettleman might do. But an awful lot. You know, continuing to go on at this point in time.

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Dwayne Haskins to Work Out for Raiders, Redskins, Giants, More

Fitz and Brooks

00:58 sec | 1 year ago

Dwayne Haskins to Work Out for Raiders, Redskins, Giants, More

"Dwayne Haskins the giants who are being hilariously. Led by the GM. Dave Gettleman they met with Dwayne Haskins. They pick behind the Niners. So do the raiders the Broncos the dolphins and the football team from the greater Washington DC area. Those are teams that Dwayne that is being reported by NFL network where they are four teams that have meetings scheduled with Dwayne Haskins. So when we talk about the Niners in the draft who were sitting at number two. Moving back. You've mentioned this before Bob if there is a market out there for Dwayne Haskins. And they feel like they're teams like, you know, like the giants who are picking six or the raiders whatever to where they could prey on other teams desire to get Dwayne Haskins. Move back a little bit and make some things happen in that

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Jaguars release Blake Bortles costing $16.5 million in dead cap space

The Sports Reporters

01:19 min | 1 year ago

Jaguars release Blake Bortles costing $16.5 million in dead cap space

"Blake Bortles was released by the Jaguars released. Not traded just dropped over sixteen million dead money counted against his team, and they still drop them. Now. Let's go back five years to the two thousand fourteen draft. Where was Bortles picked first round number three at the time. What did they say fantastic size NFL body type franchise caliber quarterback Mel kiper gave the Jaguars overall a for their draft that year and a Bleacher report was more cautious. They wrote Bortles is not nearly as ready to step in and play from day one as teddy Bridgewater is and he may not have the. Upside that Johnny Manziel does a him. Both Bridgewater and Manziel are currently looking for jobs Bridgewater, perhaps his third team Menzel just to job period. And now, so as Bortles all this proves is that there was no such thing as a guarantee in drafting a player and all the pre-draft type is just a lot of hot air designed to keep TV show sports, talk radio and scouting websites in clover year, round Bortles is exhibit a improving you don't know an NFL quarterback until he becomes an NFL quarterback five years ago is team used a top three pick five years later. He's cutting costing them

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Giants are unlikely to franchise tag Landon Collins

Big Blue View

02:36 min | 1 year ago

Giants are unlikely to franchise tag Landon Collins

"I will also say that I was in have been very much surprised over the past few days by what seems to be the giants willingness to allow Landon Collins to enter free agency Tuesday is the day when the giants have to decide whether or not to use the franchise tag on Collins to keep him from entering free agent. A week ago. I would have said that I thought it was pretty certain that the giants would do that. After listening to Dave Gettleman on Wednesday in Indianapolis. I'm not so sure I think that Gettleman talked a lot about distractions. He talked a lot about how upset players get when you use the tag on them. He talked an awful lot about eliminating distraction. He talked a lot about the financial ramifications of using the tag on Collins, and what that would do to the giants ability to improve their team and use their their Capri sources, you know, in free agency in other things. So to me, you know, I've been a little bit surprised over the past few months to be honest with you that there seems to be somewhat. Of disconnect between Collins in the giants. At least I have the impression that there is that they don't quite see things the same way, whether that's Collins value, whether that's the position in how he should be used you know on the field by defensive coordinator, James Becher. But I just don't think that the relationship between Collins and giants management is as healthy or as good as one would hope that it would be. A veteran scout told me that he thinks the consensus around the league at this point. Is that the giants will not tag Collins that they will allow him to test the free agent market. And at this point, I have to agree with that. It's you know, much to my surprises. I said I would not have felt that way a week ago. But I think that I think that Collins is going to be allowed to test the market, and we'll see what that does to the giants defense will see how that we'll see how all of that plays out soon enough.

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"dave gettleman" Discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

04:39 min | 1 year ago

"dave gettleman" Discussed on Big Blue View

"The jerseys and how different people to be angry at man. If if you were hoping we were going to talk through this entire process and come out with a positive outlook of where the giants are right now, I am sorry to disappoint you because that has not been the case. I feel like almost talking through this. I am less getting more depressed and I was, yeah, and I'll I'll be the first admit, I was not someone who was optimistic going into this season. I think I remember what we did preseason over unders at dig Lou view producer. There were four or five of us who did that and put the over under at six and a half. I think I was the only one who said. Disdain is gonna go under. So I, I will say I, I was not one of the optimism people going into the season, but even this has been so far below my expectations as much as this season might be kind of off the rails and depressing and underwhelming really like what is depressing and questionable is, is the possible future outlook of this team. I just I don't know if I trust the structure that's in place going forward to be what is able to to turn around this franchise, at least in the near term when Dave Gettleman was hired. Trust cattleman yell. The Panthers were in the Super Bowl two years ago. While look at the season's around that year, they were incredibly inconsistent and would bounce back and forth between having a pretty good winning season and a not great losing season. And that team was mostly mardi her knees yet. Again, remember omen came in and Cam Newton was already in place at quarterback who was already in place. The running backs were Jonathan Stewart, and I believe Mike Tober was all with already in place. Ryan cluele is already in places center. Greg Olsen was already in place a tight end, and he just added pieces to that roster fry. And and when you look at what this team is going to need to do at quarterback going forward, Kyle, Ida was the first quarterback, Dave Gettleman ever drafted while Leto was ghetto men's I quarterback and again, Dave Gettleman has never traded down in a draft as in those are just I don't think I don't know how you trust that going forward. I don't know how that was trusted to begin with. If if I'm being honest, but I'm not sure how you how you can see what has gone on right now and trust everything for the future and it especially the way Dave Dataman. Has tried to build this team right now. That's with his Haag mollies and through the running game is just it can meet just eliminate that word from our vocabulary. Yeah, we can, but but it's it's a way he's tried to build a team in an era where passing is at its highest, its most efficient. And really it's easiest in the history of the league. And this is now a team that's trying to build through through ground and pound and be a run first team it and and because of how bad they've been. They've been one of the most past heavy teams. But again, that wasn't the plan either and they're doing a narrow when the offense of linemen coming out of college, just they're trained to play a different game than what Dave Gettleman wants them to do. They very few schools even used three point, Steve. Chances for their offense of lineman, they're almost exclusively. No. Are peo- based spread option, spread the defense out. And Lyman only have to pass protect for two seconds and. The if you're going to build a ground and pound team, you need players that are really rare. If you say rare, you probably do have that with Barclay boat like how rare and is rare so much better than than everything else..

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"dave gettleman" Discussed on Big Blue View

Big Blue View

04:28 min | 1 year ago

"dave gettleman" Discussed on Big Blue View

"Media network. I am damp Zuta. I am joined here by Chris flung, and we're getting ready to preview the giants week five game against the Carolina Panthers giants coming in at one and three. The Panthers had a weird week four by because for some reason, teams need rests after three weeks, but they come into this game two and one, Chris, you excited for this game also, yes, feel like if I don't say yes, it will wind up being an exciting game and I'll just feel stupid for not being excited. Yeah, I, I feel you with the hesitation there. Giants. Football has not been super fun to watch over the first four weeks of the season. Maybe that'll change this week what they're going to be going into Carolina. And a team. They're somewhat familiar with just because of how much back and forth. There's been between these two rosters over the past year. It has leave become almost running gag at this point that if you know once the giants hired, Dave Gettleman, Dave Gettleman hired Mike Shula, and then if you have Carolina Panthers on your resume, odds are you're going to wind up being a giant, oh, and special teams coordinator as well a at this point. I honestly think I've lost count of how many Panthers are or have been members of the giants between the first round of free agency, the late around the free agency, and then the waiver wire and everything. After final cut downs, it's been kinda crazy. Yeah, kind of felt like through training camp almost every other day there was some type of former panther getting cycled in or out just through that. Process. So we have Dave Gettleman former team, Dave gentleman's current team, and one of them is slightly better than the other one we could say. And that is not the one. Dave Gettleman is currently running. No, it. It's been an ugly, start it with the exception of their given Houston. It's been ugly start to the season for the giants. I suppose we could maybe put an exception for the Jacksonville game. That's a good team. They played them close, but yet will just say ugly. Yeah, that's that's a safe word for it. I think I definitely not pretty, uh, so it might not get much prettier in this game. A Carolina's again, only played three games, but in those games had been significantly better if we break it down here, Carolina is eighth in football outsiders Devia way. Again, that's their team efficiency metric, their six offense. A what? Surprising is the really twenty four th in defense, but their fourth and special teams, the giants come in twenty six indeedy away twenty-second on offense. Twenty eighth on defense in two thousand. I on special teams. So if you're just looking at those numbers across the board that is not going the giants way? No, not not. At all. The different on the special teams for me is probably the scariest because that no matter who they try that always seems to be a hold your breath moment. It's really amazing that not only it's not like they can't even find someone who can return kicks or pints. Well, it's, they've struggled to find people who can catch the ball, went there back. They're like, yeah, it's the venture just with the ball wending in the returners hands, which I feel like that shouldn't be staying. Yeah, it. It shouldn't be a hard bar to get. Above, but apparently that's that's where we are with giants returners here. I suppose we could take a moment. No recognize how much altered gross has has improved because he definitely has over last year. But if you're talking about your kicker, improving hits. Not good times. Yes, special teams has not been great and Dwayne Harris who was not really great during his giants. Tenure was just AFC special teams player of the week for Oakland. So apparently you get off the giants. He become against special teams player again..

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"dave gettleman" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

The Bill Barnwell Show

01:45 min | 2 years ago

"dave gettleman" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

"You know you're going to pay to get them to come on wanna play in cleveland now bill the other thing i would say is i'm gonna turn back to john dorsey and also dave gettleman to make this point the nfl has to if you're a head coach or gm there's like three of them in the nfl that i think in truly execute their vision of roster building how they want to because three ality is like the leash is so ridiculously short and i'm sure there was more to it beyond just seasons didn't finish how the team one of them too but think about this dave gettleman was the general manager of a team that went fifteen and one and was the favourite in most people's is going into the super bowl and a year and a half later it was fired on dorsey helped the chiefs make it to the playoffs i believe in consecutive seasons fired last june like you can't tell me that if you're an nfl gm do you have to understand like you are making moves that even if you know there's a chance they won't necessarily work great over the long haul you have to do it in the in the short term to secure yourself it's like how these baseball contracts work you think people do you think the angel angel's thought that albert pools was going to be worth twenty seven point five million dollars in his age thirty eight or thirty nine season right david price to the red sox thirty two million dollars gimme a break smart baseball people knew that wasn't probably going to be the best spending of thirty plus million dollars in a season but in order to secure those players you gotta pay him huge numbers for the years thirty thirty one thirty two seasons so the browns are doing the same thing like pay these guys a ton of money up front in order to get them stick around for the long haul.

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"dave gettleman" Discussed on WGR 550 Sports Radio

WGR 550 Sports Radio

02:24 min | 2 years ago

"dave gettleman" Discussed on WGR 550 Sports Radio

"Him the opportunity to the battle it and and being with him prayers and thoughts with dave gettleman for a successful recovery from his lymphoma and a good long run into the general manager of the giants i think the league is better when guys they dave gettleman are in it so we wish him well speaking of old school old timers bill belichick spoke to the media today in foxborough day one of the mandatory minicamp for the for the patriots and belcher cat a couple of things to say in particular he was asked a lot about the return of tom brady and what that meant and as you might imagine bill belichick was not exactly forthcoming here's what he had to say did everyone before tom good understanding wearing charter sets always had a good relationship with home concerned at all that he chose to stay away from ot as he's done it before the whole time if he fears there was time zone i mean look against volunteer programs that's what it is if that's better okay it's gotta be you think it's tough to be a patriots beat reporter the problem is because of the way bill belichick is seeing follow my reasoning is more about the reporters than it is bill in the answers because you're not going to get anything out of him but you have to do your job you gotta you gotta ask those questions and you know bill doesn't want to be asked him he's he's totally disinterested in it but she's still gotta get there and you gotta say okay bill what can you tell us about tom brady's absence in the in the ot as well i'd like i just want to talk about the players you gotta ask going through the motions of your job and getting nothing in return and that's gotta be frustrated and that's all they get really ever get gotta ask those questions knowing that you're not gonna get anything and that's all you get from ballot check i mean nobody's ever when's the last time a significant important quotas ever come out of ballot check or quite frankly any of those players under belgian.

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"dave gettleman" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM

WFAN Sports Radio_FM

01:52 min | 2 years ago

"dave gettleman" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM

"I mentioned this at the top with dave gettleman we're learning about dave gettleman the giants general manager as opposed to dave gettleman the carolina general manager what his words actually mean and i gotta tell you look at it the four picks the giants have made obviously the big one was saquon round one will hernandez the guard out of texas el paso lorenzo carter the edge pass rusher from georgia and bj hill the defensive tackle from nc state the one thing i'm learning about dave gettleman is he says what he says and he means what he says because you never got the impression that he was ever in love with any of these quarterbacks and that probably is a big part of the decision to not take a quarterback i think part of it is probably the belief in davis webb and one thing i hear from giant fans who wanted the quarterback is how can you believe in davis webb he didn't play last year that's not an indicator considering this brand new general manager and a brand new coaching staff i don't know what davis webb is going to be i have no idea i certainly can't sit here today and tell you davis webb is going to be nothing how would any of us know now would i have and this is the order of business on the barclay decision would i have drafted a quarterback at number two overall the answer is yes with all of that said and i've made that opinion clear for the last five months that i would use the lottery ticket to try to find my heirapparent eli manning and that doesn't mean i'm eliminating davis webb that doesn't mean i'm throwing him to the side i now have both of them on my roster and we'll see over the next couple of years how things develop but with that said the one thing i can't do right now i can't say it to a giant fan i can't tell you that even though i disagree and i would have gone quarterback i can't tell.

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"dave gettleman" Discussed on The MMQB Podcast with Albert Breer

The MMQB Podcast with Albert Breer

02:01 min | 2 years ago

"dave gettleman" Discussed on The MMQB Podcast with Albert Breer

"They are putting a clock on dave gettleman and on pat shurmur because if you take a quarterback it's okay now when's the transition going to happen and these guys barely ever sit the guys who are taking that high right so like ones that can happen and when are you going to go through the rebuilt if you take a saquon barkley or you take a bradley chubb there well then you're saying we're all in on eli and we're creating we're creating an essence a two or three year window where we have to win now because we just passed on an opportunity to move to the next guy now what i'm hearing here it get them has been very i mean i've heard like closed blinds in that building in east rutherford right he's been quiet about it the one thing the people who know dave said to me and told me to pay attention to is that gold jacket comment he keeps making and that's actually real and that means something and that's why he may be unlikely to trae down and i remember talking to somebody a couple of days ago who said to me you know if you're paying attention to that there's one maybe two guys in this draft who fit that description right now and one of them's a guard so it's probably only one and that saquon barkley it's i i'm also starting to wonder bird if it doesn't even matter who the cleveland browns taken number one that unless somebody calls with something stupid and makes galman an offer that he can't refuse that he stays there and he takes barclay and he continues to try to build this football team hey look everybody's going nuts about the giants getting a quarterback they can very easily get a quarterback at the top of the second round or the top of the third round now they also have to third round picks that they can maneuver around with and if they want to slide back into the second to go grab somebody they can and it's interesting because when you're at the top of the draft and you and i built over this for a while even on this podcast.

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"dave gettleman" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM

WFAN Sports Radio_FM

01:34 min | 2 years ago

"dave gettleman" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM

"Stockpile draft picks and build a team that way malik possible you could trade down a couple of spots and still get the guy who want whether it's bradley show whether it's quit nelson out of notre dame you could easily do that maybe a team like denver wants to move up to make sure they get the guy at quarterback before the jets picket three that could happen i mean there are just so many different domino's sin variables that are gonna come into play between now and next thursday that could alter this stay but is seems to be alive smoke seems to be a lot of substance to this idea that dave gettleman does any of these quarterbacks and dave gettleman calm next thursday's going to either take saquon barkley or trade the pick and that's case well it's a big risk and he'd better hope that all these quarterbacks that he passes up on and up being flops because if you see let's say for argument's sakes rosen and mayfield killing it for next seven years nfl and the giants are still searching for answers if the position you're going to be saying coulda shoulda woulda four thirty six here on this early teens day jj after the cianci stransky john you to the overnight in four tony page right here on the fan i wanna hear from.

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"dave gettleman" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM

Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM

02:36 min | 2 years ago

"dave gettleman" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM

"He went from tv to getting back and being being a head coach with dave gettleman dave gettleman had had this to say about odell beckham junior yesterday in the past two days have been two reports about odell they've been floated that he won't take the field without an extension and the rams are interested in trading fun i understand the reports people are gonna print stuff i get it but i want you to understand this neither odell nor his agent have contacted us regarding either report okay so you look he hasn't said he's off the block but i gave gilman came from carolina where they jettison steve smith and still went to the super bowl is it looks a great player a hall of fame caliber player do you believe that odell beckham junior plays next year for the giants i don't know i thought it was a certainty based on the owners comments during the season that was going to be here for a long time but you see comments just recently where he's getting tired of of having to talk about it and they're using terms like he's on the roster right now so that that language never entered into the conversation until until very recently and look they just moved on from j p p this is this is a new administration and the old way wasn't working they want more law and order they want more disciplined they know that that worked with tom coughlin they know that that worked with bill parcells and in order to commit to a player you need to know that that player is committed to you went to the things the organization believes in especially if you're making a longterm financial commitment with very little ability to to do anything to the player once you sign the contract i mean finds at that point become meaningless because he makes so much money it's a fraction of what he makes so i would have said if we'd had this conversation mother to go i think it depends on the way odell approaches things moving forward and and how much commitment they see from him to to be on board with the vision of the future the giants i i think that's a great point you you you just pointed out in regards to we're odell goes moving forward we see.

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"dave gettleman" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM

WFAN Sports Radio_FM

02:26 min | 2 years ago

"dave gettleman" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM

"A franchise that not always great talent on the field but he is maturing and he is growing as a person off the field now i don't envision a scenario even though john mayer said that nobody is untouchable when you coming off at three and thirteen year i'd be very surprised if beckham is traded between now and it started a season i find that highly unlikely not selling from a position of strength giants find a way somehow someway to work this out with beckham and to see him turn over a new leaf but it's quite obvious that if you think that this is going to be a walk in the park and that the giants are going to bend over backwards to every single one of odell beckham junior's demands you got another thing coming not only because of dave gettleman prior track record because of what you heard from your owner on sunday for beckham my ticket simple grow up shape up or you're going to be shipped out then you get to the yankees alison we count down the days it can't get here soon enough opening day thursday you got the mets at one o'clock against the cardinals got the yankees with all the expectations with all the hype going into the year the yankees in toronto on thursday but got bad news over the weekend real bad news of the weekend surrounding guy who's got a chance to be i think one of your best players so we know the knock on greg bird over the last few years is banned terrific talent but wake me up when he's gonna play a full season one is great bird going to be able to go through a hundred sixty two games and give you a hundred thirty gave you a hundred forty hasn't done any point is big league career last year he had the issue with the foot the broken bone that they didn't know about bird miss pretty much the entire year came back in september and was great in fact greg bird was probably the best yankee hitter in the postseason a year ago he provides balanced because he's a lefty power hitter he's a guy that i've been making the.

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"dave gettleman" Discussed on The MMQB Podcast with Albert Breer

The MMQB Podcast with Albert Breer

01:52 min | 2 years ago

"dave gettleman" Discussed on The MMQB Podcast with Albert Breer

"Will why while we have for the questions are jali be hang for the the six pack because like i've showing a wad of courage here on a really healthy michael jordan versus the utah jazz one he ansari fever albert brir tears very courage whatever you want to call and you're like it's just that sort of what i'm feeling you know let let me let me call up sports illustrated so now so we can get you as their man of the now what are you kidding me tim row hands already outside his house waiting to do the interview odd world file encourage all right so we're going to jump right the six pack you guys know how this works i put out the call for questions on twitter you guys ask i pick six if i pick yours you get the answer right year and you get a shout out on twitter so we're gonna start here with questionable water from amber this'll interest loop is from amber rele oh6 andrew door door well go into the giants now for those who don't know in your door well prowall guard for the carolina panthers was brian the league by dave gettleman the giants general manager and nor well is one of these players in an interesting spot because the giants could that the panthers could tag him but the number that position because they grew ball offense of wyman together is around is going to be around fourteen million so they basically be paying him like a tackle to keep them in so look i think the debt entered nor wealth for that reason gets to the market in the giants would make sense that will be one way for the giants to be able to say you know what we need to fix our offense why we need the answers we need we need to find guys were ready to play right now this guy's ready to play right now we don't need a project college players into this let's go get him and i think he would make some sense.

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"dave gettleman" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show

The Rich Eisen Show

02:08 min | 2 years ago

"dave gettleman" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show

"What a great response dj that's a precedent my wife looked at my my wife looked at the credit card bill do the day she goes i keeps there's this like a seven dollar dinner charge every night how much money they give you for dinner thinks like 50 bucks during every nice with right next to the hotel it's easy convenient it's convenient now convenience you know that's what it's all about okay so do you still think donald's one i saw in your first mock draft that you had the giants passing on josh rosen taking sake barkley in rosen falling two the jets if that happens dj not only would you beal nostress 'damas bought that would set up a story line in the new york city football media for a decade plus for a decade plus daniel i did it for the rich adding chill and larry donald me very happy of josh rosenfeld majette really it was so what will give me your thinking behind all of that dj yeah wicket to me it it's going to be fascinated the real decision i think comes in at number two what view and it wanted they're going to be on one or two tracks it's we are in full rebuild look to the future we have dave gettleman back in the building who was around one eu i want a couple of rings um and still thinks that he likes got a little bit less than he thinks man we get odell beckham back healthy i go out and get him say want berkeley and then we can put this thing right back round be in the playoffs next year so with this kind of one of those two lines of thinking so in this one you know you'll do a tworound different scenarios doing these drafts but in this one this is the uh utilized people got a little west uh mocked drafty theory well that would be a um i mean this would be a dream jay z scenario that had sake one right there in uh right there in his backyard in the in the new york city metropolitan area but you think rosen would fall past any other quarterback needy teens uh light say denver mean denver's getting a looksee it both masefield and alan because their coach and the senior bowl so what do you think they're while the vibe and again i try to do these mocked wraps up a.

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"dave gettleman" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM

WFAN Sports Radio_FM

01:39 min | 2 years ago

"dave gettleman" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM

"The giants and dave gettleman i like this guy go monroe item by comes across to us a message it's all about waiting and that's all the matters that steps mike on a guy who first impression is great but he's all about win of course you can say you're going to rebuild the offense of lining you'd better rebuild the offense of line you can say you're gonna find the right coach you'd better find the right coach got a win game so i think the first impression i agree with you i like him to is coming across great but like it is with any sport the any team in this town time will tell of confident the joints will get it right early on a wrong with ben mack cannot thinks it an underrated wrong every now and then he got a role ray handley through date but i will see one hundred if you go with the every other one cedras and they always going to get it right yes that it that is fair let's go to jail and bloomfield joe how're are you what's up hey guys how are you joked up i i actually want to talk about an interesting treat scenario or the giants for the draft i know it's early in the process but you know just looking at what the ground pass and if the giants treat back to four with the ramp they have all of those draft pick that they've acquired in the past including the thirty three in the thirty five the giants treat back to four the browns men have the one in the two biggest there chew stuff they get their quarterback and they get another playmaker at three d indianapolis colts are not gonna take quarterback because they're andrew block and that would leave that other quarterback there for the giant pick whoever they choose and they would acquire a whole bunch of other assets from the ground battle.

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"dave gettleman" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM

WFAN Sports Radio_FM

01:36 min | 2 years ago

"dave gettleman" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM

"And i would go wind to get our coffee before getting into cold tub dave gettleman would always be there and he would always talk to us and know i've had a great relationship with them in a thing that i loved about his press conference if you can see his sincerety of who used as a person that he loves the new york giants he loves the opportunity that it was given and and you could just here i'm i'm not here to make promises but what i'm here to do is that we're going to kick but every day and work to get this back to work needs to be in and what else do you love about a what is the first thing that he said you know it's no joke this offense of wine needs to be addressed and we need to help this group and we need to change the culture around here starting with leaders and and he gets it in he knows what it takes to put championship products out on the football field so for dave gettleman to get this job i was beyond excited and for all of us in an anybody on the east coast or any muir giant fan who've watch his team struggle this is the one side and good thing that heading into 2018 that you know you could be proud of an excited about the end this season in 2017 the right way knowing that we have a general manager and placed it's going to turn things round look in a win right away in two thousand eighteen and with that being said the answer the question directly in terms of the giants quarterback eli manning say that to wealth eagle game is not an anomaly and he doesn't believe it is will move forward so giant seemed to be in place in kelemen seems to have the idea that and believe that he lied manning we'll be the giants quarterback in two thousand eighteen and.

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