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04:16 min | 1 year ago

"darren birches" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

"Saint James and Pamela Hughes. That is a Phoenix. Police officer yelling at a man in a woman to get their hands up. The, the woman was holding a one year old, baby and her we now know four year old daughter was holding her hand. And this officer destructing put the baby on the ground. This is Phoenix and you set a one year old what on their in their on pavement. And she's saying, I can't sit to set the baby on the ground he is screaming. He's using profanity. And he you heard of they're going to put a capital. He threatened to shoot them. And you just heard us talk to former Arizona attorney General, Tom horn, whose representing the family in this situation. And you know what I'm from that interview. I took away that this is still in its infancy stages. But there's a lot that he still doesn't know he doesn't have the police report. Heck he doesn't even have the name of the officer to find out if there if this is a one off or if this officer is on the Brady lists. You can't check that he saying that there was no attempt to pull these his clients over because as clients say, there was no attempt to be pulled over. But yet there, I mean, there are cameras everywhere I mean, looking ring doorbell or closed, circuit or stop lights. I mean, do you have anything to substantiate? That I think it's too soon in the situation to have that kind of information, but I still get back to why the aggressiveness, why are these officers jacked, it just seems so out of place and as proportionate -solutely, and as we try to make sense of that you and I have been digging into this, and we had Tom horn on you can go back and listen to the podcast. If you just joined us mid broadcast there, but on that podcast you can also go back and listen to our discussion with former Phoenix police officer Darren Birch because we also wanted to get the law enforcement perspective of what does a law enforcement officer who proudly serve this community for years, see in those videos, and here's a little bit of what Darren Birch had to tell us earlier in the program, so that the officer was upset, and that he was angry that something must come before this, these officers cured upset aggravated by frankly. At the vehicle before we even you know what we think is there, I approach there already upset, which tells me something occurred, either trying to stop that vehicle or something. We're not seeing the video, and that's why I ask Mr. horn. How far is it from the store to where the family was approach, I think off the top of my head is probably about a mile? So put yourself in the position of law enforcement officer. If in fact, and it's a big again, this is one of the questions, we don't have answered if in fact, you have a call come in from. And again, we don't even know what the call was the kid. So I'm I'm waiting on a lot of stuff. But if you have a call, come in that there was, you know, a crime in, in that's taking place at this dollar store. Officers try to pull over this this car. They're driving for a mile not pulling in his car doesn't pull over. That's where I could see the officers getting. Upset, but to the point of rushing guns, drawn threatening to shoot people who, by the way are complying are calling the officers, sir. Yes are doing what they're asked to do. And still that one off specifically keeps threatening to shoot them again. I'm just going to say I think they're lucky they didn't get shot. I think we're lucky. We're not talking about one of these shootings. And he reached for something crap. And once you once you get these individuals, and you see that they are being respectful, and they've gotten building deescalate don't ramp it up. And apparently know it took a Phoenix police Lieutenant to come later, not showing the video to pull these cops off of these people and take them out of cups in release again. If you haven't heard the interview with Tom horn, or with former Phoenix police officer sergeant Darren berko back subscribe to the podcast this week brought to you by novocure..

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"darren birches" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

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01:51 min | 1 year ago

"darren birches" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

"On Arizona's news station, KTAR news now. It's one o'clock. I'm Bob McClay. Here's our top story. A group claims Facebook post or prove that Phoenix police officers have a subculture of bias and violence one post claims that Islam was a Colt. It's an opinion about a religion. There's some parts of perceived as a coke people call Christianity a coat. Former police officer, Brandon Tatum, says that's no proof and officers perceived bias makes its way into patrol work. Former sergeant Dan Darren Birch disputes the study, but still they thought this are held at higher standard. Whether you're on duty or not, and rightfully so so Phoenix. Police are researching and verifying the post gathered by the plain view Project, Phoenix. Police chief Jerry Williams calls the language and terminology used in the post embarrassing and disturbing. And as ask the professional standards. Zero to look into the matter a judge has sentenced the man who pled guilty to attempted murder after piling into three Phoenix police officers. Mark pain will spend thirty five years in prison pain ran into the officers at a gas station near Camelback road, and I seventeen one officer suffered a broken leg another had a concussion. The third had minor injuries. The monsoon is one of the busiest times of the year for Phoenix fire and police rescue crews and helicopters wraps at other tools of the display this morning that the Phoenix fire training academy, Phoenix, fire captain will Gerhardt has been on dozens of water rescues. And as this advice for newcomers among time residents who see flooded streets, and washes, you don't even attempt it, if there's water flowing in a wash or even. Downgrade on a road.

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"darren birches" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

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01:54 min | 1 year ago

"darren birches" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

"Customs and border protection i send others to get a firsthand account of what officers are dealing with with the flood of central american migrants the last game with the border patrol says having the marines and national guard at their side has kept the system from crumble in the past you know you'd have waves where you'd see a little break and what i've seen the brake it's it's just getting more and more and more every day we're seeing higher number earlier this week the homeland security secretary said the border crisis deserves a response you'd see dealing with a cat five hurricane she will meet the president and collects icho california tomorrow to visit the border wall and you jim cross k._t._a._r. news we're waiting for nielsen to make some remarks and we'll bring those to you when they happen every zone a senator martha mcsally delivered a keynote speech on sexual assault and harassment at the u._s. naval academy today she says change starts within the community it starts at home how we ain't cocaine our young people in it you know it's parenting it's faith leaders coaches civil society it's all that hadn't it goes in the classroom i mean all that stuff last month that makes sally opened up about her own experience when she was in the air force she says a superior officer raped her last weekend to phoenix homeowners shot two burglars killing one of them do you know your rights when it comes to protecting your home you can shoot invaders you can reflect appropriately articulate that you're in fear for your life you're able and allowed by law to protect yourself in such a way where you could use deadly force retired phoenix police sergeant darren birch says just make sure you're aware of what you're seeing so many times you hear about these tragic horrific incidences were selling choose through a door shooting at could be a practical joke it could be other things now someone is stealing your car but not directly threatening you birch says you're not allowed to use deadly force although you can threaten to do so jeremy foster k._t._a._r. news check on traffic here's.

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"darren birches" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

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04:10 min | 1 year ago

"darren birches" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

"KTAR news. KTAR in-depth. We were reporting on this yesterday. A veterinarian tech worker chased off a man exposing himself at children at a daycare on cave creek road near Greenway road last week. She was later raped allegedly the hands of that same creep. Here's what Theresa Steen who runs. The amigo animal clinic told ABC fifteen about what happened to her employees when she was leaving work hours later. He was hiding just waiting for her. She had things in her hands. She walked passenger side put it in. And that's when he came from behind with a rope. A rope around her neck left her for dead she survived. Thank god. Joining us now on the KTAR. Newsmaker line is Darren Birch retired Phoenix police sergeant the author of twisted but true Darren I live two blocks from where this happened. It's shocking. Everybody around the valley, though is how brutal is rape was. And that this guy was exposing himself to children before. Hand. What advice should should I give my wife, for instance, knowing there's a rapist out there? Yeah. Always always always call police to report suspicious activity specially with the homeless explain that the second, but but let alone criminal activity. So unfortunately, police weren't called right off the get go and don't confront these individual. If you want to assist in from vantage point, use your camera your phone, everyone has one and get a picture blurry is better than nothing. But again, I emphasize from safe advantage. But when you're doing with the homeless there is a criminal transient population within that group. There's criminals that are force on the street after coming out of prison or strange from family. There are also registered sex offenders within that group. And that's what we have here is what's referred to as an anger rapist. They're unable to secure housing upon release from prison. And unfortunately, the law allows them to register to an intersection when they're being released and many of them are armed some have health issues is can be a very dangerous population. You shouldn't deal with them directly. If you see them doing some spacious, call police, I've never used amigo animal clinic, but I know a couple of people who swear by the place, they love that place, and you can tell by what the response has been male clients have been showing up to help the ladies leave at night. And that's definitely something that you should do. No matter where you work, really. If you leave it at night, right? You should walk out with somebody right spot on a real quick ten seconds be aware of surroundings. Don't be sitting watching your phone as you're walking out your car. And when I say beware surroundings, whether you're at home work recreation shopping. Doesn't matter safety in numbers, which is what we're looking to hear. If you're leaving the work go with a colleague as you go. They're your car park close well lit areas, have repeat Bob in your hands where you can hit that Larmer reading in. The last noise is your greatest ally suspects hate attention. And that's why he ran away from first time wasn't because he was afraid of her. He's afraid that attention that noise that being seen. Yeah. So here's what happened in our house last night. My wife about every four or five weeks. She walks to a restaurant. That's nearby. Our house for happy hour with a couple of friends, and I can't tell her what to do. But I of gave her my blessing last night 'cause she was walking with two other tallish fit women safety in numbers. Right. The really is is safety. Number is not to say, you're not somewhat laudable. Unfortunately, we we all remember the baseline rapist, and he did attack with pairs usual is exception to the rule not the rule. So there is numbers. But I by rallying cry is always be aware of your surroundings. Look around be vigilant be aware, and that will with safety numbers and everything else we talked about that will mitigate any attack. All right. Thanks a lot. Darren Darren birches, a retired Phoenix police sergeant who spent years working on sex crimes..

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"darren birches" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

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03:56 min | 1 year ago

"darren birches" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

"Two thousand cameras out there on the street were able to show the exchange of what our officers do. Well, what our community members do? Well, and when things don't go, well, we will address those is Phoenix police chief, Jerry Williams. The Phoenix city council overwhelmingly approved a contract with Scottsdale based Exxon enterprises, you know, them as the folks who make the taser they will acquit police with two thousand new body cameras and those will replace the three hundred old cameras at they currently have and joining us now. Yeah. Retired. Phoenix police sergeant author of twisted, but true Darren Birch on the KTAR newsmaker line there. There were forty four officer involved shootings last year with Phoenix police is there any impact that these new body cams are going to have on those kind of incidents. You know, the impact won't be. You know, prevent is going to be reflective ill show another invaluable tool to help with those investigations. But again that's gonna be coupled with witness statements, visible Evans, and the like so it'll be impactful only to extent of the investigation. There are I know there's kind of mixed feelings amongst the police community about body cams. Some officers are like this is great. You know, the Dow everybody can see I did the right thing. And I was attacked or whatever the case may be and others are like, you know, this kind of makes me a little hesitant to. Maybe do my job the way, I would do it. If I wasn't wearing one is that fair. I think it is. I think the overwhelming. Again. This is my assessment of what I hear is. I think it's more of the former I think people police officers understand. It is the reality of the job today that genie is out of the transparent bottle technologies has been here where a major department what fifth sixth largest city. So I think it's time is maybe even overdue. I think is a good thing for right time. Yeah. This environment. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. We're police are accused of you know, there was something one person in a city council meeting the last year that call them domestic terrorists called the Phoenix police department domestic terrorists, I think it's awful that they would refer to somebody like that. Now, according to the chief Williams there are multiple benefits of using body cams. Let's listen to a couple of what she's those benefits are that. She says it actually shows if you look at some of the study shows a decrease in the use of force with the officers, and they were also able to close out citizens complaints by showing the video and looking at the video optimum we're talking with retired. Phoenix police sergeant Darren Birch the author of twisted but true Darren so that's that that is good. If officers don't use as much force. But can that also be a bad thing? In other words, our officers maybe not going to respond with the force that they should to protect themselves in the community. If they're wearing a body Cam, you know, thinking about having that on their on their vest. I hope the training kicks in regardless intrigue. When I'm talking about is when you use force would not use force. All those things that go into a decision making process. Hopefully, this will not be part of that. It shouldn't be this is simply reflective tool to record what's going on. And not a as a decision maker in any regard. So hopefully, that's true. I can see the citizens challenging and empower citizens. Let me be clear, you know, criminal type those individuals who maybe what a prey on obser- in. And now they know that they're being recorded. So in that sense. I could see. Situations that may not escalate because they know they're being court. So I I like it. I don't discount anything on the chief said I thinks he's accurate with her statements. Okay. Very good. That's Darren Birch retired. Phoenix police sergeant it's five forty eight now time for entertainment news Stacy Brooks. Brought to you by a fire is Ona's premier cool sculpting provider.

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"darren birches" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

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07:30 min | 1 year ago

"darren birches" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

"KTAR news ninety two three FM. Phoenix police said they made an arrest in the sexual assault investigation involving a hacienda healthcare patient who gave birth to a child last month. Phoenix police arrested thirty six year old Nathan Sutherland, a licensed, practical nurse who was responsible for caring for the victim. During the time, the what they call his alleged sex assault occurred, and they announced that this morning, and you heard KTAR news. And you know, what you and I've been asking for weeks is who is this guy. Is he someone who just walked in off the street? Yeah. Is it someone that worked there? Well last week when we had retired Phoenix police sergeant Darren Birch thirty years police experience. This is what he told us could this individuals to be there nine months later. Absolutely, really. And you'll end the reason being is they think they got away with it the pregnancy their DNA testing, right? But no one knew about the pregnancy. No, one knew about the pregnancy. Maybe he thought he got away with it. Maybe he knew the woman was pregnant. Maybe he didn't know. I'm not really sure. But Darren Birch you got it. Right. You've done this for a long time with with sex, sex assault cases. You're not surprise that. This guy was actually still working there. And from what we understand talking to Tommy Thompson. Phoenix police sergeant as of yesterday was still there. My goodness Zach raising it's like hiding in plain sight is absolutely hanging plain sight. I I just want to say that the place. I rate organization did a first rate job and getting our community safe. Getting this monster off, the doubt, no doubt. Is there is there? Is there any part that says there could be other suspects? I mean, you did sex crimes for nine years. Could there be a couple of men at this place? We caught one. Would you be surprised if another person that worked there another nurse mail is implicated yet nothing was me? I would be surprised if in this particular case there was another person implicated based on the DNA because we probably would have heard about that only because of the the math of DNA right in mind in this case, it's not like a crime in progress where you have the suspect it leaves a sample and the victim discovers it costs, please. And we compare the sample on the sexual assault with the suspect. This is different were diamonds later. We have a product of that crime is Tommy Tommy Thompson said the on the investigation is ongoing. Well, if he's the guy Wisey investigation ongoing where does the investigation go from here? That's a great question. What you have is the math and the DNA for this case. But explained that your jury is difficult, and there's always, you know, the defenses, for example, in this case you have to eliminate the mothers dean. To show. The father's DNA because baby has both DNA. So there's a lot of math in this. So what you need to do. Now is investigator is go through the he may have a criminal record. But he has a thumbprint social media ex-girlfriends prior places where he's worked and creeps like this kinda give people the he'd be GB. Sometimes there's probably some female, nurses, or female, employees that may have some information they can share. And that's why Tommy did a great job putting out silent witness. They can say provide this Intel, and this this Intel will become that circumstantial evidence mountain that will assist in the nation and conviction. Garin purchase. Joining us retired Phoenix police sergeant thirty years of experience. It's interesting. You say that the guy doesn't have a record doesn't mean. He's a good God. Oh, exactly and many times these sexual predators. They have a sexual nature, which means they have this bizarre. Twisted sexual desire. They may not be a criminal and the other aspect so they have the lift sometimes these quiet lives desperation, but many times you'll see them in reports where they're urinating in public or some other activity that leads to who they are. But not in rest interesting. So they got this monster. He's off the streets. He is in jail. And we're talking to Darren Birch retired Phoenix police sergeant. So with the investigation it kind of well, we have some time. Let's get into it. Now, why didn't this guy leave? Why didn't this rapist say I know what I did. I did it for a long time. Now, there's a baby they can get my DNA. Why why didn't he leave? Why didn't he bail when they asked for DNA? Why not just skipped town then? Yeah. Get inside. This guy's head. Because I I don't understand it. That's a great question. The first thing that jumped out at me is and this goes to what you're talking about MC about recidivism goody. This man has done a crime before or after if he is prolific and these this insidious nature of his on to do this. He's may have done this before and after and he forgot about this particular victim in terms of worrying about some type of investigation. And so they may find more victims that this guy took advantage of either at this place. Somewhere else because he's been a licensed nurse since two thousand five he's been at hacienda since two thousand eleven he could have done this to some other people other victims before if that's the case. Why didn't you get out of town? Sadly, sadly, yesterday, max point he's done this before he simply got caught sadly because those are pregnant, right? He didn't use protection. And so now thank God we have him as far as to your point Gators. Why did he leave town? The best example, I can give on that is when I was doing any case. The sexual predators. Very intelligent way. More until I was why do you? Why did you do it? He says it consumes my every waking second this. Into to offend whatever that fence may be whether it's. Thank you. Yes. A sexual desire. That is bizarre. They is over it consumes them at literally consumes. So he, and I hate to say it he's in a fishing hole war this type of activity. Sally. So that's what worries me that. There could very well be victims. What will like a pedophile would go work with children exactly that this guy knew he could take advantage of as a nurse? Could. He could take advantage of somebody in a coma. Vegetative state could very well have plant plan that in terms of the perfect occupation to offend and find potential victims. Exactly retired. Sergeant Darren Birch of the Phoenix PD thirty years in law enforcement experience who has also worked in sex crimes Darren. You know, what's this is fascinating and repulsive at the same time. So forgive me, you know. I understand. Yeah. Like, I am fascinated by this. But I'm also I don't understand it. This guy. Stuck around? He didn't leave. And now his lawyer is saying there's no evidence when Phoenix PD said we matched his DNA with the child that supposedly is is here's a rapist lawyer. There's no direct evidence that Mr. Sutherland has committed these acts. I know at.

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07:16 min | 1 year ago

"darren birches" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

"News. Steve or ninety two three years. Are following the breaking news earlier today? Phoenix police said they made an arrest in the sexual assault investigation involving a hacienda healthcare patient who gave birth to a child last month. Phoenix police arrested thirty six year old Nathan Sutherland, a licensed, practical nurse who was responsible for caring for the victim. During the time the what they call his alleged sex assault occurred. And they announced that this morning, and you heard it, oh KTAR news. And you know, what you and I've been asking for weeks is who is this guy. You know, he's he's someone who just walked in off the street. Yeah. Is it someone that worked there? Well last week when we had retired Phoenix police sergeant Darren Birch thirty years of police experience. This is what he told us could this individuals to be there nine months later. Absolutely really, the reason being is they think he got away with it the pregnancy height their DNA testing, right? But no one knew about the pregnancy. No, one knew about the pregnancy. Maybe he thought he got away with it. Maybe he knew the woman was pregnant. Maybe he didn't know. I'm not really sure. But Darren Birch you got it. Right. You've done this for a long time with with sex, sex assault cases. You're not surprised that this guy was actually still working there. And from what we understand talking to Tommy Thompson. Phoenix police sergeant as of yesterday was still there. My goodness Zach raising. It's like hiding in plain sight is absolutely hanging plain sight first foremost, I was just want to say that the Phoenix police department. I rate organization did a first rate job and getting our community safe game. This monster off the doubt, no doubt. Is there is there is there any part? That says there could be other suspects. I mean, you did sex crimes for nine years. Could there be a couple of men at this place? We caught one. Would you be surprised if another person that worked there another nurse mail is implicated nothing would surprise me? I would be surprised if in this particular case there was another person implicated based on the DNA because we probably would have heard about that only because of the the math of DNA in mind in this case, it's not like a chronic progress where you have the suspect it leaves a sample and the victim discovers calls, please. And we compare the sample on the sexual assault with the suspect. This is different were diamonds later, we have a product of that crime. Tommy Tommy Thompson said the on the investigation is ongoing. Well, if he's the guy Wisey investigation ongoing where does the investigation go from here? That's a great question. What you have is the math and the DNA for this case. But explained that your jury is difficult, and there's always, you know, the defenses, for example, in this case you have to eliminate the mother's day. To show the fathers DNA because the baby has both DNA. So there's a lot of math in this. So what you need to do. Now is investigator is go through the he may have a criminal record. But he has a thumbprint social media ex-girlfriends player places where he's worked and creeps. Like, this kinda give people the he'd be GB. Sometimes there's probably some female, nurses, or female, employees that may have some information they can share. And that's why Tommy did a great job putting out silent witness. They can say anonymous provide this Intel, and this this Intel will become that circumstantial evidence mountain that will assist in the Judaization and conviction. Garin purchase. Joining us retired Phoenix police sergeant thirty years of experience. It's interesting. You say that the guy doesn't have a record doesn't mean. He's a good guy. Oh, exactly and many times these special predators. They have a sexual nature, which means they have this bizarre. Twisted sexual desire. They may not be a crewman any other aspect. So they have the live. Sometimes these quiet lives of desperation, but many times you'll see them in reports where they're urinating public or some other activity that leads to who they are. But not in a rest interesting. So they got this monster. He is off the streets. He is in jail. And we're talking to Darren Birch retired Phoenix police sergeant. So with the investigation it kind of well what we have some time. Let's get into it. Now, why didn't this guy leave? Why didn't this rapist say I know what I did. I did it for a long time. Now, there's a baby they can get my DNA. Why why didn't he leave? Why didn't he bail when they asked for DNA? Why not just skipped town? Then get inside this guy's head. 'cause I don't understand it. That's a great question. The first thing that jumped out at me is and this goes to what you're talking about MAC about recidivism. He this man has done a crime before or after if he is prolific and these this insidious nature of his on to do this. He's may have done this before and after and he forgot about this particular victim in terms of worrying about some type of investigations. So they may find more victims that this guy took advantage of either at this place. Somewhere else because he's been a licensed nurse since like two thousand five he's been at hacienda since two thousand eleven he could have done this to some other people other victims before if that's the case. Why didn't you get out of town? Sadly, sadly, yes to max point. He's done this before he simply got caught sadly because there was a pregnant, right? He didn't use protection as a now. Thank god. We have him as far as to your point Gators. Why did he leave town? The best example, I can give on that is when I was doing any case in this the sexual predators, very intelligent way more until June. I was why do you why did you do it? He says it consumes my every waking second this. Into to fend whatever that fence. Maybe whether. Thank you. Yes. A sexual desire. That is bizarre. They is over. It consumes them at literally consumes. So he, and I hate to say it he's in a fishing hole for this type of activity. Sally. So that's what worries me that could very well be other victims much like a pedophile would go work with children. Exactly. Like this guy knew he could take advantage of as a nurse could could take advantage of somebody in a coma. Vegetative state could very well have plant plan that in terms of the perfect occupation to offend and find potential victims. Exactly. All right. We are with retired. Phoenix police sergeant Darren Birch thirty years police experience, we come back this monsters defense attorney said there's no evidence that he committed a crime what? Well, there's DNA. Wait a second. Is there really no evidence that this guy committed the crime? We're gonna talk about that next..

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07:16 min | 2 years ago

"darren birches" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

"MAC and Gaydos. Best of our on zone is news station. KTAR news ninety two three FM that story at ten Tempe. A suspect was shot and killed by the Tempe. Police a fourteen year old boy was in possession of an air soft gun in Tempe. Police department said that an officer responded to a suspicious vehicle forty eighth street and baseline road. Someone's they saw somebody in the process of burglarizing that vehicle the officer the officer approached the suspect he exited the car's passenger side and fled. What what officers said holding a weapon that weapon turned out to be an air soft gun and the officer shot and killed the fourteen year old boy, it's a tough story. There's no question about it. Actually in two thousand nineteen that has happened in Tempe. A seventeen year old was wounded in Peoria nineteen year old was killed in Phoenix in eighteen year old was wounded in fountain hills. So there have been four police shootings America the county in two thousand nineteen involving teens one thing I wanna know is do police officers treat a kid with a gun, even if it's a fake gun. You don't know that do they treat them differently than an adult with a gun. Why don't we break this down with a couple of people who have certainly been in law enforcement for a while. Yeah. Brandon Tatum is a former Tucson police officer for six years and Darren birches retired. Phoenix police sergeant thirty years of police experience twenty eight with Phoenix BT PD, gentlemen. Welcome. Welcome. Thanks for having me. Okay. So we got Brandon on the phone. We got Darren here in studio. So Brandon let me start with you the situation that happened in Tempe with an officer shooting and killing a fourteen year old boy, it wasn't a real gun. The kid was burglarizing a car. Do you see in this incident? The cop made any mistake. I would have to the need to see a little more information. But it just because this the gun is not real. And at the key was fourteen doesn't necessarily mean that the police officer made a mistake. You know, I think people need to start holding themselves holding their own kids accountable. Shame on their parents. They had no business even being in a situation where police need to respond to a call where he's burglarizing anything in shouldn't be fleeing from the police the start with the first thing that I would start with the second of all with the dangerous environment. That's going on we've seen so many police officer killed in a in a in the first couple of weeks of this year that police response is extremely heightened. And I think people need to be aware of that. But like I said, I need to know more details of the case to determine if the police action has been wrong or not. All right. That is Brandon Tatum. Former Tucson police officer for six years. He's joining us. Also Darren Burgess here in studio retired Phoenix police sergeant. Thirty years experience when you make the on. Yeah. Unfortunately, this is absolutely a tragedy. But the officer in my opinion based I understand acted in the right manner. What you've got is. He's responding to a crime in progress. We're talking about felony here. And we know as police officers felons have guns best you when they're in the commission of a crime. So for him to flee the scene of a felony and armed, and that's a key the officer sees the gun knows as a kind of progress noses felling chasing. And like the the other officer said before me, you know, he's refusing to obey commands. There's commands. Well, he also refused the bay right. So this has every right to think could be in jeopardy. Think about this. He's running after subject with a gun. He with his gun. He can't be running after grabbing because now he's going to a gun fight with just hands. Right. So now his gun is out. And if you think this person's a threat he wants to go home that night. What about Dr? Berkshire retired Phoenix PD Brandon Tatum retired or I'm sorry. He was with the Tucson police for six years. What about the question of are you trained to handle a juvenile differently with a firearm rather than an adult is there any difference? Does it matter what the kid is ten or fifteen or twenty six or is it just somebody with a gun? You are trained to handle them the same way. No matter how old Darren. Yeah. The short answer is trained to handle the same situation is a gun is life threatening incident. The truth of the matter as an officer having been in situations would juveniles with the guns you do react differently. You shouldn't. But the training is all about that's a threat. Now, there's also the factors involved like in this one it was so that the actors were overwhelming in terms of why the officer shot, there are factors. Will you get there? You happen to see a situation. She's a boy a gun. You're not at the same level. Not that read where you need to. Engage. You know, you're going to be doing the commands and so forth. And then you wait to see what what tangible threat there is. So every situation different without doubt. But you're trained a lethal weapons. Lethal weapon is a threat the story. We're talking about fourteen have been shot by valley police officer so far in two thousand nineteen the one in Tempe, a fourteen year old fleeing the scene of a felony is Darren said. That's burglarizing a car. He had what looked like a real gun, but it was a model air soft gun. Brandon Tatum for a Tucson police officers. Six years, are you guys trained to notice the difference between a fake gun and a real gun? Yeah. We we're trying to notice the difference. But it's impossible to try to apply that in every situation, especially when it says dynamic is chasing somebody, you know, we could you could do you do your best. And even nowadays man when I was on the swat team, we saw criminals painting the real guns orange on the tip two calls a police officer hesitate for a second. So they can have the upper hand. So there it goes into consideration and training to a certain degree. But at the end of the day, man, you gotta treat it all like a real gun because you just don't know having. And I think that would it would it shows me is that their kid you wouldn't world. What reason you a fourteen year old zero carrying a fake gun? Anyway. Unless he's going to try to use it against somebody as it being fake and somebody perceiving it to be real did either of you guys ever have to confront the child or teenager with a gun. I was very fortunate. I have never had that situation. Thank god. Have you ever had to do that? I've never confronted a teenager with a gun, and I'm so you said fake gun. Correct. No either. I've had situations where I've encountered earlier than with a gun. And maybe you hesitate a second or two, and again, you know, whatever the situation displays to you. But yeah, human factors do kick in. And unfortunately, as it may be you may hesitate, right? Brandon tatum. Former Tucson police officers six years Darren Birch retired Phoenix police sergeant thirty years of police experienced twenty with Phoenix PD, gentlemen. Thank you. My pleasure. Thank you for having me, wonderful show, MAC and Gaydos, best of our KTAR news ninety two three FM..

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"The MAC and Gaydos festive our on Arizona's news station. KTAR news ninety two three SM. Sad story at ten P suspect was shot and killed by the Tempe. Police a fourteen year old boy was in possession of an air soft gun in Tempe. Police department said that an officer responded to a suspicious vehicle forty eighth street and baseline road. Someone's they saw somebody in the process of burglarizing that vehicle the officer the officer approached the suspect he exited the car's passenger side and fled. What what officer said holding a weapon that weapon turned out to be an air soft gun and the officer shot and killed the fourteen year old boy, it's a tough story. There's no question about it. Actually in two thousand nineteen that has happened in Tempe. A seventeen year old was wounded in Peoria, a nineteen year old was killed in Phoenix in eighteen year old was wounded in fountain hills. So there have been four police shootings America county in two thousand nineteen involving teams one thing I want to know is do police officers treat a kid with a gun, even if it's a fake gun. You don't know that do they treat them differently than an adult with a gun. Why don't we break this down with a couple of people who have certainly been in law enforcement for a while. Yeah. Brandon Tatum is a former Tucson police officer for six years and Darren birches retired. Phoenix police sergeant thirty years of police experience Twenty-eight with Phoenix be gentlemen. Welcome. Welcome. Thanks for having me. Okay. So we got brand on the phone. We got Darren here in studio. So Brandon let me start with you the situation that happened in Tempe with an officer shooting and killing a fourteen year old boy, it wasn't a real gun. The kid was burglarizing a car. Do you see in this incident? The cop made any mistake. I would have to need to see a little more information. But it just because this gun is not real. And that the key was fourteen doesn't necessarily mean that the police officer made a mistake. You know, I think people need to start holding themselves holding their own kids accountable. Shame on their parents. They had no business even being in a situation where police need to respond to a call where he's burglarizing anything in shouldn't be fleeing from the police to start with the the first thing that I would start with the second of all with the dangerous environment. That's going on we've seen so many police officer killed in in in the first couple of weeks of this year that police response is extremely heightened, and I think people need to be aware of that. But like I said, I need to know more details of the case to determine if the police action has been wrong or not. All right. That is Brandon Tatum. Former Tucson police officer for six years. He's joining us. Also Darren Burgess here in studio retired Phoenix police sergeant. Thirty years experience, we stay on. Yeah. Unfortunately, this is absolutely a tragedy. But the officer in my opinion based on what I understand acted in the right manner. What you've got is. He's responding to a crime in progress you're talking about felony here. And we know as police officers felons have guns specially when they're in the commission of a crime. So for him to flee the scene of a felony and armed, and that's a key. The officer sees the gun knows kind of progress knows is a felony and chasing. And like the the other officers said before me, you know, he's refusing to obey commands. There's weather become as well. He also refused bay. Right. So this is every right to think his life could be in jeopardy. Think about this. He's running after subject with a gun. He with his gun. He can't be running after grabbing them because now he's going to a gun fight with just hands. Right. So now has got is out. And if he thinks he's this person's a threat he wants to go home that night. What about Dr? Berkshire retired Phoenix PD Brandon Tatum retired or I'm sorry. He was with the Tucson police for six years. What about the question of are you trained to handle a juvenile differently with a firearm rather than an adult is there any difference? Does it matter where the kid is ten or fifteen or twenty six or is it just somebody with a gun? You are trained to handle them the same way. No matter how old Darren. Yeah. The short answer is you're trained to handle the same situation is a gun is life threatening incident. The truth of the matter as an officer having been in situations would juveniles with guns you do react differently. You shouldn't. But the training is all about that's a threat. Now, there's also other factors involved like in this one. It was so that the factors overwhelming in terms of why the officer shot there are factors for you get there you happen to see a situation. She's a boy with a gun. You're not at the same level. Not that read where you need to. Engage. You know, you're going to be doing the commands and so forth. And then you wait to see what potential threat there is. So every situation different without doubt. But you're trained a lethal weapons lethal weapon a threat the story we're talking about fourteen have been shot by valley police officer so far in two thousand nineteen the one in Tempe, a fourteen year old fleeing the scene of a felony is Darren said. That's burglarizing a car. He had what looked like a real gun, but it was a model air soft gun. Brandon Tatum for a Tucson police officers. Six years, are you guys trained to notice the difference between a fake gun in a real gun? We we're trying to notice the difference. But it's impossible to try to apply that in every situation, especially when it says dynamic is chasing somebody, you know, we could you could do you do your best. And even nowadays man when I was on the swat team, we saw criminals painting the real guns orange on the tip two calls a police officer hesitate for a second can have the upper hand. So there it goes into consideration at training to a certain degree. But at the end of the day, you gotta treat it all like a real gun because you just don't know. And I think that what would it would it shows me is that their kid you wouldn't world. What reason Fourteen-year-old why it's a forty year old carrying a fake gun. Anyway. Unless he's gonna try to use it against somebody as it being fake and somebody perceiving it to be real did either of you guys ever have to confront the child or a teenager with a gun. I was very fortunate. I have never had that situation. Thank god. Have you ever had to do that? Never. I've never confronted a teenager with a gun, and I'm so you said fake gun. Correct. No either. I've had situations where I've encountered earlier with a gun. And maybe you hesitate a second or two, and again, you know, whatever the situation displays to you. But yeah, human factors do kick in. And unfortunately, as it may be you may hesitate, right? Brandon tatum. Former Tucson.

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"Download was another claim of abuse this time, physical abuse at hacienda healthcare. But we are still just absolutely horrified. Intrigued curious revolted by the story that happened December twenty nine of a woman in a coma having a child full term when she's been in a comatose state for how many years since she was three years old. She's now twenty nine where is this monster? And who is this monster will obviously Phoenix PD are still looking. Our next guest might know where the monster is. And is he hiding in plain sight joining us now is Darren Birch retired Phoenix police sergeant thirty years. He's a former sex crimes detective for nine years. Darren thanks for coming on the show before we get into where you think this monster is in your experience. Being a sex crime detective for nine years. What's the profile of this monster Darren is, sadly, I've had cases like these. Unfortunately, heartbreak absolutely have in every case. I've had what we had a pregnancy. Or the suspect was caught in the act. We had arrests. So I feel very confident as I know thanks police department has talked about very confident in this investigation on forward to the point where there will be an apprehension a an arrest. But who is this person? What do you think is it is it somebody from outside? Is it a is it a maintenance worker is it an employee's the guy long gone? Yeah. Both great questions talking with MAC, I answer that generally in my experience in my cases. It's been employees is not a visitor reason being I think is it a bizzare doesn't know about the windows of opportunity there. They're there visiting someone else or maybe visiting that person. They don't know when someone's going to walk in. They don't know the time schedules of the the rounds and all that stuff employees does and obviously a male employees regarding the pregnant, right? We're talking about you know, that type of crime where there wasn't a condom or protection us. And that's why we're even where we're at thankfully for the investigation. I believe very confident we're going to find this person to your questioning in regards to could he still be there? Long gone. Yeah. And I heard you say down the radio, I would politely say, you might be wrong. Many times it depends on turnover. But some of these facilities are nice. They have good benefits so forth. We're talking about nine month window right based on the pregnancy. And so could this individuals to be there nine months later? Absolutely, really. And the reason being is they think they got away with it the pregnancy. Their DNA testing, right? But no one knew about the pregnancy until they called police because the baby was born. So they didn't know about this pregnancy. Because if they did they sure reported a crime, so they didn't know about the pregnancy. He thought he was going under wire was cut and now explodes there is a pregnancy. And now if he leaves he can look very guilty. So there's a possibility he could still be there. Now, there's also of the equally a possibility he could have left it. He might that might have been his last day who knows, but I'm saying, you know, the police are going to look at every single employee. Join that that window past present we're talking with Darren Birch. And we're talking about the hacienda case with a woman who was raped and gave birth to a baby boy, she's in a vegetative state and Darren was a sex crime detective for nine years. I'm I'm blown away that you think this guy is still there, and listen, you're the expert. So I'm going with you, man. But. I would think that that this guy would have high tailed it out like, maybe even. Pregnant, right? She would he would have to know. She was pregnant with his stick around. Yeah. I can't believe that. I don't know if he would know depends on who he is. Assaulting her. Or there may be other patients assaulted two we think that this wasn't a one time one assault time that he got her pregnant. I would think if he kept assaulting her. He would know that her body's chain. What point what percentage or are you thinking that this guy still works there? If you were working this case as you did for nine years cases like this. What's the percentage? So sure that we would have to buy you dinner. Sure that investigators speaking I would look at it as he is still there that's how I would proceed accordingly. And then when I found out he's not that I'm looking for those past employees during the same window of opportunity. How would you know who it is? I mean, I mean all those places have a Rosser of who is the employed there at the time you also. And again, I'm narrowing it to just employees you absolutely look at visitors in general as well. So you look at anyone that had opportunity that's mail within that timeframe what's nice about this situations. You have a baby you have the medical professionals that give you a very sometimes tight window. Hey, Darren of win occurred Darren with a baby involved the baby has been born since that's the case. Is it easier to catch the monster? Absolutely hundred percent. Yes. We have the DNA. It's there it. Yeah. If you have physical evidence of who could have done it. Absolutely. You got that DNA? Let's go down the road of what how do you? What do you? How do you interview the female employees? I'm assuming everybody is going to be asked. Everybody's going to be debriefed or interrogated or interviewed. What are you asked? What do you say to the females because obviously it was a male suspect assaulting this woman. Right. Yeah. All those interviews are going to be witness style. Interviews you're not going to be in custody interrogation type styles. Just because you're a male you're going to be witnessed generate, but witness, the mail interviews will be very much different as you said MAC is that's going to be your suspect list. But when you're interviewing the females just all about what have you seen during that time period and not just that time period. But in general about the male employees or any concerns, you have about seeing someone that should not been in a room when they were it was under schedule all sorts of things, and that's just. I don't want to exclude the visitors. You know, you know, did you see something with a visit that was strange unusual like he was visiting a person, but he was in different room. All those things are what you're gonna be talking about trying to get some type of feeling where this investigation leads. And then you just follow where it leads. You Darren Birch who's with Phoenix PD retired sergeant crimes detective for nine years. Serving Phoenix PD. This gets really twisted and really creepy. But do you think she was the only one assaulted like there was something in this monsters mind that she was special or his type or do you think there are other and maybe even male male? Patients in this place that could have been assaulted as well. When it comes to a sexual predator. And this is what we're talking about clearly sexual that would have such. Disdain for the human life that he would do this to a completely vulnerable individual unresponsive. I believe this isn't the first time in the and they would continue doing just based on what we know about sexual predators and their their recidivism, and they just keep offending until you stop them. So it doesn't matter who it is. Yeah opportunities there. It doesn't matter. Whether she's twenty nine forty eight whomever. That's the keyword. You just said MAC, opportunistic, and that these creatures all about the opportunity to commit this crime. And you think they're going to catch this guy. I absolutely do. All right. Darren Birch still thinks possibly that. This man is still at hacienda because leaving. Chesting though. I mean, why would you stick around if you gave a DNA swab nine years as a sex crime detective Darren Birch the author of twisted, but true. Thanks darren. My pleasure. It's one thing. I didn't think of I assumed immediately. That this guy would be long gone and Darren has done this for a long time. But you're right. And he's got a lot of bad people these people usually stick around, and they think they're smarter that they'll figure out a way to get around. It. Goodness gracious. All right coming up next the longer the shutdown lasts, less safe..

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Officer shoots, kills boy who had fake gun

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08:05 min | 2 years ago

Officer shoots, kills boy who had fake gun

"Guns you do react differently. You shouldn't. But the training is all about that's a threat. Now, there's also other factors involved in this one. It was so that the factors were overwhelming in terms of why the officer shot, there are factors. Will you get there? You happen to see a situation. She's a boy with a gun at the same level. Not that read where you need to. Engage. You know, you're going to be doing the commands and so forth. And then you wait to see what potential threat there is. So every situation different without doubt. But you're trained a lethal weapons lethal weapon. If is a threat the story, we're talking about fourteen have been shot by valley police officers so far in two thousand nineteen the one in Tempe, a fourteen year old fleeing the scene of a felony is Darren said. That's burglarizing a car. He had looked like a real gun, but it was a model air soft gun. Brandon Tatum for a Tucson police officers. Six years, are you guys trained to notice the difference between a fake gun and a real gun? Yeah. We we're trying to notice the difference. But it's impossible to try to apply that in every situation, especially when it says dynamic is chasing somebody, you know, we could you can do your best. And even nowadays man when I was on the swat team, we saw criminals painting the real guns orange on the tip two calls a police officer hesitate for a second. So they can have the upper hand. So there it goes into consideration at training to a certain degree. But at the end of the day, you gotta treat it all like a real gun because you just don't know having. And I think that what would it would it shows me is that their kid you wouldn't world. What reason fourteen year old why is carrying a gun. Anyway. Unless he's gonna try to use it against somebody as it being fake and somebody perceiving it to be real did either of you guys ever have to confront a child or a teenager with a gun. I was very fortunate. I have never had that situation. Brandon's. Thank god. Have you ever had to do that? I've never confronted a teenager with a gun, and I'm so you said fake gun. Correct. No either. I've had situations where I've. You mentioned earlier that with a gun, and maybe you hesitate a second or two, and again, you know, whatever the situation displays too, but yeah, human factors do kick in. And unfortunately, as it may be you may hesitate, right? Brandon tatum. Former Tucson police officers six years Darren Birch retired Phoenix police sergeant thirty years police experience twenty eight with Phoenix PD, gentlemen. Thank you. My pleasure. Having me wonderful show. All right. Thanks, man. So very tough spot. It's four incidents this year in twenty nineteen eighteen year old wounded in fountain hills in one thousand nine year old killed in Phoenix seventeen year old wounded in Peoria to be very fair. We haven't gone through those stories on the air to tell you. Right. What we really concentrated on was the Tempe. Police officer who shot and killed a fourteen year old boy who is fleeing the scene he was trying to burglarize a car, right? Yeah. It's a very tough situation. There's no question about it. And no one wants to see a fourteen year old killed and no one wants to see an officer have to live with that. But no one wants to see an officer killed absolutely not. They hesitated not blaming the officer. I mean, if a kid is burglarizing a car, you don't know how old the kid is first of light and the gun gun looks really gotta assume it's real you're running away. You're you're brandishing that fake weapon. Right. You know? You've got the cops got to go home. Cops gotta go home. All right coming up next. Fiber parties, five hardy, fiber partying or the newest kid birthday trend is it genius or rude next. Afternoon with matching data agr us ninety three. Mac and Gaydos, get deserving valley teachers paid when you help KTAR news paid tribute to a teacher text teacher to four one one nine hundred eighty three and nominated outstanding teacher raises the bar for education in Arizona. Mac and Gaydos, will take one of the teachers that you nominate each month for a one thousand dollars. Held

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03:15 min | 2 years ago

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"New study from New York university's Brennan center for Justice says murder made in Phoenix dropped nearly eighteen percent last year. While the overall crime rate fell over six percent that fo the nationwide trend that found the nation's thirty biggest cities have the lowest crime rates in thirty years. A little earlier we were joined by retired Phoenix police sergeant and author of twisted, but true Darren Birch. And we asked him what's your first reaction to those statistics? Not surprising. Actually, I really didn't. Find surprising. I really think police crimefighting in general, not just police social media, and so forth has added to this. Great crime fighting ability that we have today we have two aims growled. Who was part of the study why the crime and murder rates are falling. Here's what he told us improving economic conditions were a lot of the reasons. More police officers are on the street, you agree with him on that. Yes. And no, I think definitely economics has a lot to do with it. But as far as more police officers on. The street. You know, we've had less per capita than we have in past years. I really think is really a combination. I don't think there's one magic bullet or two. I think is the main things in concert not just better police departments. Like in the valley. We have a great police department with that uses now high tech tools like computer software for crime patterns. So we have, you know, good frame fighting old school techniques as well as new school stuff community based police who and that's a cornerstone of the -partment. That's good things happen. But I think it's also social media crimefighting platforms like next door where neighbors help chip off neighbors of suspicious activities at version programs in the Justice system, where you take somebody that has anger management issues or addiction problems and stages Greenman jail, and he comes out and does it crime. Again, we we deal with the problem with the diversion program. And then transparencies when you're talking about not just police uniforms with the cameras and so forth, but just surveillance cameras. In general among the public public cell phones, where they can take pictures of suspicious activity, and then posted I think it's all these things in concert has been created as quaint flooding. Good climb flooding again didn't happen overnight. But in years, we're now at a good place. We're talking on Arizona's morning news with retired Phoenix police sergeant and the author of twisted, but true Darren Birch there, do you expect this trend of the crime rate going down? Do you expect that to continue? Yes. And no there's going to be you know, peaks and valleys I, unfortunately, one serial killer to the mix and crime rate will rise. But I don't think it's going to go back to what we had in the ninety s where we only had a murder race consistently in the two hundred in fact, two thousand three it was like two hundred forty something. So I don't think it's going to go back to that. I think we're a good place as long as we can keep adding police officers because of the other things, you know, the with median in and so forth by do predict that were police departments aren't active in a. Proactiv crime flooding stance where you have. Unfortunately, Baltimore were, you know, the infamous stand-down were cops don't can't do their job for political pressures and so forth. Then I think crime rates will rise in those cities. That's there. Birch retired Phoenix police sergeant and author of twisted, but true KTAR news time is six forty seven..

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06:38 min | 2 years ago

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"Report says that Twenty-eight Phoenix police at a twenty Phoenix police. Shootings to use tasers Phoenix police officer deployed their tasers and just seven percent of cases. That involve officer gunfire in the first six months. Of, two thousand eighteen now we've talked about how violence against the police has gone up and specifically about. The Phoenix police department is this number? Too low to high why is it only? To tasers versus twenty. Eight Phoenix police shootings let's. Talk to Darren Birch now he's got thirty years law enforcement many with the Phoenix PD retired Phoenix police sergeant and author of, the new book twisted but true about his. Life, and law enforcement Darren is this number high? Or low to you twenty eight to No I think it? Sounds about right What's more important is looking at individual cases to. See if that was, appropriate or not that type of weapon a tasers. A very specialized, tool that has limitations so you wouldn't you say in a liberal type exchange for somebody with a gun or somebody charging you with a knife because of the distance that the taser. Propels probes is a limited distance appointee so if a single obstacle is, out there with a with. Justice, teaser he's gonna end up dead yeah that's kind of, what I thought if a man is let's say that you gotta suspect who's. Scott a knife and I'm the cop I'm. Not pulling my taser opponent my. Firearm that could cut. Right through. Me that's a deadly weapon. I'm not I'm not screwing around here I'm not going to try and, taste you if you've got a knife especially if you have a gun while. I'm, not even looking at my teaser Yeah there are scenarios but. They're very very unique where you have somebody with a night they're threatening but they're not charging and you may have multiple authors that's the perfect plan that you could then deployed peyser officers lives at. Risk because they have their service weapon out so there are those scenarios, but again the scenario would. Dictate, whether officer would would be able to have a watch, free appointing a taser Darren birches joining us and I would think that do. You usually use a taser if someone is. Resisting arrest like if one officer. Has the guy kinda. Down and. He's struggling and he's moving. And he doesn't wanna be arrested is that isn't that when are you, tell me if I'm wrong isn't that when most officers deploy the teacher taser Really depends. On a, particular police they all. Have their different general orders or operational procedures as it. Dictates the use of keizer However I can't say before I left, the with the Phoenix you weren't able use? Your, taser within uncooperative, combative individual but, again teaser you don't wanna use it around anybody. Who's pregnant, you don't want to use it somebody that you say. Has a health problem maybe your heart condition so there's limitations to the keizer so I don't want to over use. It but I don't want. To you, said the best thing about tasers is always having the training and no shoot shoot scenarios and when, to use a taser. Because that's the best kind of training is 'cause there's so? Many specialized scenarios we couldn't? Even lift them in a day retired Phoenix police sergeant and author Darren Birch joins us over thirty years of police experience then then Darren? And I think I know the answer to, this but you tell me then why have one Why why have a taser then if. It's used so infrequently and if. Most calls it's necessary for you to have, a firearm and I. Don't wanna take firearms away from cops but why have the taser then because, it's the perfect toll for. Perfect situations just like obser- pleasant is a you know a threshold for you know to prevent that use of force just like verbal persuasion just like your Mace just like your side handle petanque just like. The you know what they call the beanbag. These are, all tools and collectively. They provide us with a less lethal alternative which is. Good even if it's seven percent because seven percent time STAN thought, that Darren one thing I don't understand is Tasers don't they don't do the job all the time, you could nail. A guy with a taser and for one reason, or another guy still, walking I don't get that part Oh it's happened to me I had a young officer there. Was a subject that was. Threatening a woman who was speeding Prager into an apartment the officer right fully soul. Was a plate of a, barricade situation, and was ready deploys teaser it was ineffective on him I went to grab. Him and throw him on the. Ground and I got paid so it. Depends on different you know drugs in their? System and. All sorts of other factors to include their. Clothing so it's not the perfect tool it's a great tool in certain situations what does it, feel like to get taste Fun Not specifically what is not, fun lock your, body what? Happened It does it if you picture you know, being executed when putting a sometime, metal device into, a outlet Now like that Overextended. Amount, of time luckily I was able to just hold onto the guy until the cycle is off and that was able to resume the fight retired Phoenix police. Sergeant and, author, Darren Birch Darren thank you for the insight as always have. A great weekend you guys to answer. Effort all week what does it feel like? To get taste not fun and it. Shouldn't be, fun I mean there's things, should not tickle but as we pointed out sometimes, they don't work but his Darren pointed out better to have that tool in your arsenal. Shirt. And not yes, so this again we always tell you read read more. Than the headline Twenty-eight Phoenix police shootings to use tasers, they, will? Well? Well? Why why what it's not, for every situation but neither is a. Gun fire aspects these days are more combative They're carrying a weapon and. I'll say it again if I'm a cop? You got a knife you ain't gonna. Taste wrangling, and get shot right because, if you come towards me with a knife that, how did deadly weapon and guess what I'm going home you might not be but I. Am. All right coming, up we've got the five o'clock KTAR news expansion fifteen. Minutes of commercial free non stop news traffic and weather, an, announcement? By? The? McCain family came down this, morning.

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09:01 min | 2 years ago

"darren birches" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

"News He's here weather for the valley today partly sunny one hundred five but. Tonight look for, some, possible. Showers there could be a thunderstorm in spots of the valley it's going to be partly cloudy Eighty-three degrees later on tomorrow one. Hundred, and four is your high it's going to be sunny and warm any. Five, later that day Tuesday another hot. Day it's gonna head up to one hundred seven, and Wednesday one hundred to sunshine with clouds weather brought to you by Howard air whether place or repair call Howard air it's one hundred and one degrees, in Glendale I'm Julie LeVine on. Arizona's news station KTAR news This is, the MAC, and Gaydos best of our best of. MAC and Gaydos from last. Week shows on Arizona's news station KTAR. News ninety two three SM on the show we talk. A lot about police we talk, about you know I've been. Saying kind of there's this this war. Against the police officers you're seeing it in the valley you're seeing it elsewhere you're seeing. A lot of of of videos with body Cam footage. Now you get to see like you say frame by frame what happens to the body Cam footage or someone. Is is taking it from their cell phone. And you know cops are just being, you know Just just just, being put through the grinder. I mean I don't know how else. To say it and you know policing. Is tough and that's what this? Memo from Phoenix police, chief Jerry Williams said so there's percent, increase Sade again forty five percent almost. Fifty percent increase, in the. Number of assaults against Phoenix officers so somebody fighting with the cops trying to get something you know trying to get out of you know getting, arrested maybe or or maybe. They just want to pick a. Fight right I, when you're, deal and this is a one year fifty percent increase that doesn't make. Any sense yeah we're seeing more. People not comply with. Police and then it gets nasty and then you see it on. Video you're seeing more people actually attack police are you seeing. That on video maybe not as much but especially with the Phoenix police department we're talking about. Officers officers being, assaulted it's up forty, five percent Joining, us now, is our buddy Darren Birch retired Phoenix police sergeant thirty years of police. Experience. Author of the new book twisted but true Darren thanks for joining us. In studio how are you? I'm, good I'm good well let's talk about it, because you know why do. You think violence against officers in Phoenix. Is up forty five percent I let. Me say that as long as? That is is not, unexpected this is not surprising to me, at all I've been retired now for. Years and four, years ago On all the Facebook groups. On part of with police there wasn't this type of mayhem against police officers in the last. Two years, it's been escalated it really, has every we can't go on the. Site without seeing some officer being ambushed and the word I would use Gaydos. Is targeted police are, now being targeted talks a strong word it is. Is it, by is it by. People on the street who don't, wanna be arrested or is it by like an activist in. Phoenix that says oh well every. Time the cop is wrong I think it's these, activists that our call opportunists and, I think. The, message is somewhat disingenuous for example. When you see? This stat. This is. Alarming, spiel army to anybody last thing somebody, should be saying as a will have some negative towards it as? This is. Saying this is the reason why police shootings are up you know this. Is a stat this is a fact you. Know police officers lives are more in jeopardy now than Ever before it would be, a, scary, thing from me with three years. Experience being working streets today because it is a tough job because the cameras everyone has a. Cell phone, is that it is that, why police officers lives are more endanger. Now than ever is it because of these cell phones and videos people are taking everywhere I think, in intensifies the message by the messages orient there. Are certain, groups I think they're. Disingenuous when they're just hate groups, when they do some type of anti police brutality You know, protests and their speech, is you know, after police kill cops how is. That against police brutality because every cop out there, every good cop out there is against police. Brutality it does happen there are bad cops unfortunately just like there's bad, doctors any kind of profession so, we hate them as much and we want to get rid of them just even more so because, it's tarnishes our badge but when these groups go out there and all their speeches about negativity, towards the police when they see the stat they should be saying. Oh my gosh that's we need to do something not turn it around is if we are saying that's the reason why police are shooting people Darren birches joining us retired Phoenix police sergeant thirty years of police experience author of the new book twisted but true twisted withdrew true is all about your, experience on the force. Mostly in Phoenix and I it seems to be. That when you start first. Started out and you you along your career there were people that would resist this is different than And resisting arrest, this is, I either want to, kill you or hurt you for? What purpose why is it, is it a cultural difference is it a cultural. Divide and how. Do you address his, address, at his Phoenix PD I, do think is a. Cultural difference now there's more disrespect than ever before and there was always the idea that somebody doesn't want to pay the consequences. To their actions we get that you know that's part of the job you know them, wanting to resist arrest them, not wanting to comply, that's why not, fight to the death thank you. And now only fight to the death but everything, is a confrontation you'll it's nothing situation were. You know please don't move your hands please don't do this and all, suddenly they are resisting or orders, are orders are keep us alive so they don't know how difficult our job is and I get, it they don't have to know how difficult our job is but by being confrontational very jump, street they're putting their own lives. At risk so Phoenix Police chief Jerry Williams puts out. A memo to the community says there's been a forty five percent increase in? The number of? Assaults against Phoenix police officers? So this is something that? Has gotten worse in the last few years Darren like? You said do we need to change the way we train cops because of a, stat like this no I don't believe so I believe what's happening is there's a lot of. Less lethal alternatives, out there, we've done a good job. Professionally across the spectrum as far as police, organizations having all these. Tools to deescalate but what is happening. The one train that might be valuable is for, the officers are staying it, is more dangerous out there, and to, be always having partners and. Be more vigilant than ever before. Because it is more dangerous okay let me let me push back. One second on that then if you're aware of, it and vigilant almost. Expecting it doesn't that put you in a different mindset, as a cop so, maybe more intense, aggressive more more intense which may escalate. The problem Even more yet no. It could very well could I can tell you for a, fact when I've been shot at and only been shot three. Times my career each time the next day, out after three days separation Very you're very anxious is a weird feeling your your, extra extra vigilant I don't know how, else to say you're. Really in that red zone where normally you're in the yellow. Zone, if you will and so yeah. This, is a dangerous situation not. Just for the police but like you're talking about MAC also Susan because we are we are absolutely feel like there's a target on her back Darren purchased joining, us Thirty years experience, Phoenix police the issue. We're discussing is that assaults against officers in Phoenix up forty. Five, percent this year I, I go back to like. An example. Darren of the infortunately shooting and killing of a GPS officer a few, weeks ago you had You had one person on the side of the street throwing, a bunch, of garbage and rocks into into the street okay I'm I'm still at this point surprised, at you had six. Police officers there one suspect and it, took them eight minutes to get him down and even to get him down he shot two people I'm thinking if this was years ago. One, or two police that got there would've, taken this guy down and he would have been scuffed up. And that's just how it goes well, he, was scuffed up in a minute but it. Wouldn't have taken sixty eight minutes and. Eight minutes and I think that police are like okay. I, don't want to be on the news I don't wanna. Take this, guy down I don't know if he's in, the right, of mind, goodness somebody might be. Behind that Bush with a cell phone I mean I'm still. Looking, back at that incident insane eight minutes, six cops one suspect to shot I just don't think that would have happened ten years ago MAC and Gaydos best of our KTAR news ninety two three. FM..

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"darren birches" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

KTAR 92.3FM

08:32 min | 2 years ago

"darren birches" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

"Now more and more, people fighting, back at cops, not complying not resisting arrest, not cooperating with law enforcement and this is now. Affected right here in Phoenix the Phoenix PD with a new report that has come out in a memo should say by, the police chief police chief Jerry Williams saying that there has been a forty five percent increase in the number of salts against Phoenix officers against Phoenix off one. Ten, actually involve a gun. Yeah, this apparently it's not oh it happens in. One, bad. Part of town no no. There's no evidence of that this, is all over the place neighborhood cities intersex. Wherever you want to go so we talked. To our friend Darren Birch he is a former Phoenix police sergeant thirty years A police. Experience and I mean why is this happening and we asked them are you surprised here's for. Darren told, us as long as that, is is not. Unexpected this is not surprising to me at all I've been retired. Now for years and four years ago on all, the Facebook groups on part of with police, there wasn't this type of, mayhem against police officers in, the last two years it's been it's escalated it. Really has we can't go on a site without seeing some officer being ambushed and the word I would use Gaydos is, targeted police are now being targeted taught it's a strong word it is is it by people on the street who don't want to, be arrested or is it. By, like an activist in. Phoenix, that says oh well every time the cop. Is, wrong. I think it's these activists. That our call opportunists and I, think the message is somewhat disingenuous for example. When you see this stat this is alarming. This is a fact police officers lives are more In jeopardy, now than ever before it, would be a scary thing from, me with three. Years experience being, working streets today because? It is a tough, job because the? Cameras everyone has a cell phone is that it is that why police. Officers lives are more endangered now than ever. Is it because of these cell phones and videos that people are taking everywhere I think intensifies the message by. The message is already out there there are certain groups I think they're disingenuous. When they're, just hate. Groups they do. Some type of anti police brutality protests and their speech is after the police kill cops how is that against police brutality because every cop out there. Every good cop out. There is, against police brutality at does happen there are bad cops unfortunately just like? There's bad doctors and any profession so we hate them as, much, and, we want to get rid of. Them even more so because it's tarnishes our badge but when these groups go out there and. All their, speeches about negativity towards the, police when they. See the stat they should be saying my gosh We need to do something not turn it around as if we are saying that's the reason why police shooting people Darren birches joining us retired Phoenix police sergeant thirty years of police experience author of the new book twisted but true twisted but true is all about your experience on the force mostly in Phoenix? It seems to be that when you start I started out along. Your career there were. People that would resist this is different than resisting. Arrest this is I want to kill you or, hurt you for what purpose why is it is. It a cultural difference is cultural? Divide and how do you, address it as Phoenix PD I do think a cultural difference now. There's more disrespect than, ever, before and there was always the idea that. Somebody doesn't want to pay the consequences to their actions we get that that's part of the job you know them wanting. To resist arrest them not wanting to comply that's not fight to the death thank you, and now only fight to, the death but everything's a confrontation Nothing situation were you know please don't move your hands please don't do this. And all of a sudden they are resisting orders are orders are keep us. Alive so they don't know how difficult. Our job is and I get it they don't have to know how, difficult our job is but by, being confrontational from, the very jump street they're putting their own lives at. Risk Phoenix police. Chief Jerry Williams puts out a memo to, the community and says there's been. A forty five percent increase in. The number of assaults against Phoenix. Police officers so if this is something that has gotten worse in the. Last few years? Darren like you said do we need to, change the way we train cops because of a stat like this no I don't believe so I believe what's happening is, there's a lot of less lethal alternatives out there we've done a good job professionally across the. Spectrum as far as police organizations having all. These tools to deescalate but what is happening, the one train that. Might be valuable is always having. Partners and be more vigilant than ever before because, it is more dangerous Let me push back one, one second on that. Then if you're aware of it and vigilant almost expecting it doesn't that put you in a different mindset as a cop so Maybe more intense aggressive more more intense which may escalate the problem even more yet no it could very, well could I can tell you for a fact when I've. Been shot at and only decide three. Times might career each time the next day out after a three day, separation you're very, anxious is a weird feeling your. Your extra vigilant, I don't know how else to say you're really in that, red zone where normally you're in the yellow zone if you. Will And so yeah this is a dangerous situation not just for the? Police but like. You're talking about MAC also because we absolutely feel. Like there's a target on her back Darren Burgess joining, us thirty years experience Phoenix, police the issue we're, discussing is that assaults against officers in Phoenix up forty five percent this. Year do you like the fact. That the police chief put this out it's, a memo to the community. You could say she may be. Finger pointing but do you like the fact she put. Out this memo with this statistic I love? This I love the fact that she put this out I. Love the study and I think putting this out not, as a finger, point but as a fact so that the. Inner, stand that there is a. Correlation between these two it's not to save the wrong I whoever they may be these watchdog groups but they need understand this this is a fact Darren Birch our, guests retired Phoenix police sergeant thirty years of experience it's tough. Out there and you know what I'm. Telling you all these videos that we see cops being I think a, lot of times Unfairly. Looked at during one of these They have to chase somebody if they see someone with a gun and they ask, that person to put the gun down if they're trying to get somebody to comply and, we're watching, it on a cell phone it's very it's very unfair A lot of, times to the, officers because, I don't think we ever really realized how. Tough their job is and how nasty it could get that's one that's at least one theory that we just never saw so much. Information and we see it. Everywhere and we see oh yeah you're right that everybody has a cell, phone they have body cams now that, it really people can parse and, interpret, what they see for. Themselves rather than I never saw it I? Never saw the report I don't know about it and that can cause parts of the community whatever you wanna call it to say these people are against us or. Wow, the cops need help but. What what are we supposed to do so it'll be interesting to. See what. She Williams response. With and if they have. To get trained differently if they've different protocol or maybe maybe they just do nothing well we don't know yet forty five, percent increase in the number of assaults against Phoenix police officers all right still to come, we have, discovered something about Joe Arpaio that. Might, be even more crazy than. The interview he did with Sasha baron Cohen yeah that's tough to. Do we're. Gonna talk about. That but also last night You hit by the monsoon last night MAC yes yes yes we. Did, so there was. A lot of rain in certain parts of the valley and, there was. A lot of lightning and two kids got hit by lightning in El Mirage yeah. They, were struck so we. Were talking about this on, the download to o'clock To. Teens and El Mirage were struck by lightning during, yesterday's monsoon we started getting a couple of texts of hey I was. Actually hit? By lightning I was hit? By lightning well if you've been hit by, lightning, call, us because we want to talk about this to, kids yesterday to park right that. Got struck by lightning it looks like they're going, to. Recover, thank, God but. Call us and tell us the time you were struck by lightning what, what what did that feel like why don't you go through six zero two two seven seven..

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Mac and Gaydos

04:35 min | 2 years ago

Papa John sues Papa John's

"Howard air Five oh. To continuing now with our, top story on the death. Of the, GPS trooper retired Phoenix police sergeant Darren Birch joined KTAR Bruce St? James and Pamela Hughes show today and he gives his two cents worth as to why he. Thinks there's a growing number of, police involved shootings this year one area being social media. But now with social media and again. It goes back to your, statement Bruce impression or is it truth we're seeing a. Lot of an, all use the term loosely. Citizens doing a lot of ethics please According to our TV partners ABC fifteen have been a total of fifty five officer and deputy involved shootings across the valley as today now the concerns of police survivors a group also. Known as cops says that they're ready to provide moral support to the family of the fallen DPS trooper we help them with a number of things with moral support. With helping them put together benefit information to you know. Just getting through the day Jan blazer upchurch with cops says the organization is made up of families of, survivors legal battles, continue, after the. Strange, case from the summer of two thousand fifteen when eight cars, were hit with bullets throughout the valley KTAR's, alley vetnar is live in the news center, to explain governor Doug Ducey will not have to give a deposition over phone calls made between him and DPS over the, alleged conclusion to the I, ten freeway shooting case a. District judge, ruled lawyers for the man charged in the, case Leslie marriage junior? Would not be able to get any valuable information by questioning the governor over the calls the, judge Says the attorneys. Could still get information from others who work the investigation there have. Been no arrests since mayor juniors released after seven months in jail the case remains unsolved live. In the. News, center I'm Ali vetnar KTAR, news more than four hundred acres have been burning since Saturday within the Grand Canyon Rachel grabbing signs the fire information officer. For the north rim of the Grand Canyon and tells KTAR how it started to these fires are all, natural lightning, strike ignitions that are caused, with the monsoon season there are no closures to the park as of yet but, there is a lot of smoke coming from both in north and south portions of the rim firefighters have been down the state of California are up against some scorching heat strong winds and bone dry. Conditions battling a number of wildfires throughout that state at least five homes destroyed so far forty seven hundred acres now chart the fire five percent contained authorities say the. Fire was deliberately set arresting thirty two year old Brandon. At, Glover he's now charged with five counts of arson its ABC's will car there's a search underway for, a missing Hiker near Sedona Coconino county deputies. Say sixty year old David light hall was last seen Wednesday near the Britain's Mesa trail soldiers pass trail. Junction around ten AM he stands about six three ways two hundred fifty pounds has blue eyes Brown hair and was last seen wearing Brown Columbia hiking boots a jury in Mohave county is awarded the largest. Verdict in county history eight million dollars in damages the, case involves a surgeon who was accused of willfully causing the death of his own patient the patient's. Wife and her Phoenix attorney filed a lawsuit against Dr Arnaldo tributo but a, jury in Kingman found the lawyer, in his firm wrongfully sued and accused the, doctor in the death Papa John formerly sues, Papa John's founder. And ousted former Papa, John's chairman John Schneider, has sued Papa John's international Inc demanding the company released internal, documents Schneider resigned. As chairman of the company's board after facing. Criticism for using a. Racial slur during a media training call Red mount freeway. Eastbound fifty one? At twenty four minutes..

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"darren birches" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

KTAR 92.3FM

01:43 min | 2 years ago

"darren birches" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

"Nothing to be you know hit over we're talking to darren birch retired phoenix police sergeant thirty years police experience another video from mesa another video listen i i always like to give the cops the benefit of the doubt i am i say it all the time if a cop is wrong and and we've seen police officers do wrong things and i've called them on it i don't see anything in this video that was terrible or out of bounds you know what i also don't like and i don't know if this is just you know to behind the scenes but you know in reading all of these reports from like let's say ktar dot com or television stations or wherever it's the the the headlines are the ones that that that say man beaten mocked at the hash video yeah mesa police again violent arrest and i think it just makes the cops look bad and a headline a lot of people read the headline and are too lazy to read the rest of the story and i think that's what we're seeing a lot i think we're seeing this you know this it's anticop and people read just the headline oh well i guess the mesa pd they had another violent arrest well look into the story there's a reason why this arrest wasn't nice to watch you know these are sensationalizing headlines at draws attention i understand that's the the game to get as much attention but does go to i think a false narrative that is playing out to this anti police atmosphere and be making things more more dangerous it's not making things better is making things worse it really is i think that that i think that these videos.

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"darren birches" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

KTAR 92.3FM

01:57 min | 2 years ago

"darren birches" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

"Afternoon news with mac and gaydos news ninety two three all right so the big story about mesa police called out to an apartment woman says to people are trying to break in the police say the two people they sit the one man down the other man they say sit down sit down sit down sit down he doesn't sit down and then they start punching him and there's video of it did they go too far well we asked darren birch retired phoenix police sergeant thirty years of police experience that exact question did the cops use excessive force here's what he told us if you remove that component of the face strikes then i think everyone would look at this especially with the audio the benefit of the audio and the benefit of the entire twenty minute video that really does paint a picture of somebody who is noncompliant but also non aggressive at no point do we see the alcohol massage because these officers responded to a crime in progress my understanding breaking that's a serious crime you have every authority in fact more so you have the responsibility to investigate this crime and you have twenty minutes that's a lot of you by law to control that situation and that controlled situation become even more important on the fourth floor landing this is a dangerous environment were if this gets out of hand somebody could be top over become a lethal confrontation trust me as soon as they go on this this landing they know there four flights up and this gentleman he's leaning against the railing at first and he then goes over but he doesn't do two things he doesn't put the phone away and if i'm controlling the situation and i wanna make sure especially when it's that i see one officer by himself and i want that phone away i don't want him to call for people to help i don't want to ambush i don't and i'm allowed to control that she wanted to sit down.

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"darren birches" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

KTAR 92.3FM

02:06 min | 3 years ago

"darren birches" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

"To the state capital on tuesday to press lawmakers on gun control reform lawmakers in washington filling pressure as well the movement no expanding well beyond florida we are going to be marching together as students begging for our lives these students from stillman douglas telling martha raddatz they'll be demonstrating in washington c in march with others from around the country hoping to get attention and compassion democrats and republicans have children so they both should be able to understand what it would be like to lose their children the white house says that the president is planning on meeting with high school students on wednesday he will host what they're calling it listening session that on thursday he will meet with state and local officials about school safety that's abc's victor oak kendall reporting from parkland all at the olympics some good news the women's hockey team beat finland five to nothing in the semifinals so they are going to the gold medal game todd ant abc news ktar news presents silat with this where it pays to fight crime ears cheney west furstenfeld case take this to the semi slope neighborhood eighteen cavity were deadlocked amana lives in the area was walking to a nearby of on monday march eleven 2013 at about two a m phoenix police sergeant darren birch says the man came upon two guys near the bank and began talking to them that what's interesting is the suspects were walking a dog a black and white pit bull which they called missy maybe the victim it stopped to admire the dog at any rate he went onto the atmn withdrew some cash and now nowhere in a tacking him beating him and taking his money what's worse the victims roommate went looking for the victim and he also got robbed unbeaten for his troubles by the very same guys sergeant birch says because they were walking a dog the suspects may live in the area there are pictures from nearby surveillance cameras you can't we see the good picture them but hopefully somebody will recognize at dog next police are trying to catch some burglars and paradise valley between october 2013 and thuggery 2013 there's been no less than eighteen residential.

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