7 Episode results for "Danny Amy"
079 - On Ding Dongs, Milka mmMax, and "Pringles" from China
"Sir. This is the food, scientists podcast. I'm your host Amy's Ajak. I am Herod Danny Sussman. Hey, Amy, thanks for mentioning me for this week and no problem. And brand, here's we'll Hello everyone. Not just Amy. Okay. Yes. Hello, everybody. As usually go through food news and experiences, you'd never see how to meet him. Hello, Ryan hide any okay, what's up? And then we have some ding dongs to talk about. Odu insulting us, right? We have a couple more of those giant Milka max, the other ones were so good. I'm excited about the I hope they don't appoint. And then our one of our listeners Chris brought his back, some sort of Pringles net really Pringles around potato chip. Yeah. His travels of boulder potato wishes. Yes. So are the are these wish is going to come true. We'll see. We'll find out we're not there yet. We're not gonna do potato wishes yet we're going to talk about your news experiences in this week for back to normal. The host has none sober. Ferreting. I. Let's what do you wanna do first? The hose experience Chris because last week, we did news first so we have snack cakes here too. And recently, I hosted at work as I do an L db. So everyone say with me, what's an L db, little, Debbie. Par. No buffet buffet. Finally, have you been on this leg by regal up in order on the little? No. Oh, my okay. Anyway, whenever we do that. I try and. Mickle Franken snake. Mesh two or more together and see what happens, Debbie. Yes. Yes. A whole bunch of ally him. So this week. And I'm pretty sure haven't done this before how many Debbie's at the same time as this, like how many are on the buffet to know your Franken, I'll just this week to I only shoot so you do Debbie's the. I decided to take the classic Swiss capable in. I unrest it, then I got a little salacious. I took a strawberry shortcake in unrolled that intertwine them aid them to get it was delightful. It was like a chocolate covered strawberry snack cake. I will say I'm pretty good. I was recently at an international market and looking at the array of essentially Swiss rolls in exotic flavors and thinking should we do this for the podcast to like? Maybe not now knowing that you unrolling combined that we have to you gotta make recipes. We're gonna have some like weird like macho mangoes on wall, and dressing. So bonus thing that I usually do is people ask me to. No, I just do it weekly is at bite size and every snack cake is bite sized right with your belief that any pizza can be a personal pizza. If you have if you try hard. Oh, okay. Well, danika, wizards Michener expired. So. Ellis said, can you talk that? We'll see. Yeah. So. I wouldn't say I hosted a party at my house yesterday because neither if you were invited. I didn't get that. But we did have some people over for a barbecue and Tiki drinks. Like barbecue. Now there's a new barbecue place nearby. Someone house without yes. Near my house and some Email to enter people's aying tail wanna try this place. Do you know somewhere we, we could all go group to eat it, and I was like, how about my backyard? And so that's how developed anyway, I had other plans, anyway, good. Sorry. Sorry of loneliness could have been different. I wasn't lonely. I'm sure. So anyways, I had a bunch of like leftover barbecue in my refrigerator. That's it cold for breakfast, this morning like cold brisket chicken from coal barbecue chicken, some cold dirty rice, and cold again, hosted chicken for breakfast. The other. Right. So it was good. So this'll brought me to my question for you. Is one. Really? That's when you have leftovers for breakfast, you them up, sometimes all the time usually, but I don't know. I mean I definitely had culture can before. Right right on, that's fine. Especially like fried chicken or Rosena? I. The review off the top of my head. These are ones. I personally have had colder back this and I wanna see I'm weird. Where do we had them? Cold early. Always have cold either. 'cause I always have all of them, call pizza. Oh, yes. Yeah. Chinese food in sometimes I can see it. But it's on the dish full disclosure. I never have leftover chains. But that's acceptable to we fried chicken. Yeah. Barbecue sometime. I have done pulled pork Colt of it. So it's sometimes not you if he that up. I mean normally would but I don't fall your own. I think I take the pulled pork brisket. Need it cold? Or I'll throw it on a sandwich cold. Heated up and eat it like it's dinner. And yeah. I mean, I don't know if it's necessarily better, depending on the item like I'm trying to think of, like orange chicken with rice, coal, a fried rice, like the fat, China congeals in this different called kind of like pizza. So maybe I'll try some. Yeah, I just wasn't it depends on the dish. Yeah. Yeah. I want to talk about. Really have experienced but I already mentioned, lots of free cake yesterday. I went to birthday party in a hit cake and cupcakes in anyway. That was good. So I don't care that I didn't have your barbecue. But French no news. So. I probably do over there, didn't mention something, and I'm going to be like, yeah, I read that too. Maybe maybe both of you actually saw that. There are some stranger things going on Baskin Robbins, as they are coming out with in coronation. With this new season of stranger things coming out of words. They have to new flavor device cream coming out eleven heaven, which is going to be a waffle cone flavored ice cream. So it's not local Conan's plays. The cone bits. It has chocolate coated sugarcane pieces with chocolate. Icing it, so it doesn't have awful does have a sugar cone with chocolate covered on it. So that's interesting. And then the second one is upside down pre leans and that is down pralines. I like praline rallies increase it is chocolate with praline or prodding pecans and chocolate caramels world and you can. Also get an upside down Sunday, which has the printing scoops in toppings on the bottom. So since they have this two new flavors. Are they now thirty three flavors? No who just only have thirty one spots in the case. So two of them temporarily got everybody. Everybody's loaded superman. You wouldn't have asked Robbins Minnesota ethic. No. Now what she travels Fairmount. Yeah. For Michigan Baskin Robbins there. Irna always the same thirty one. It's just but speaking of strangers things, there is something else happening. Oh, is it? Are you going to steal my new story is it related to go far? Thunder, which probably just means that they did a big media. Mine was the cocoa s riots. Did you see this Amy actually this did not see? Okay. I don't think so, so they are injured. Things takes place in the eighties yet. Right. And what happened in the eighties coat related, the new coq, and so for nineteen dollars eighty five cents. Get it nineteen eighty five the you can order to bottles of stranger things, themed coke, which is just today's coke and coke zero in stranger things theme bottles only, and you get to cans of the new coq say you get to battles to cancer, twenty button, nineteen dollars ninety. Yeah, it doesn't seem like a great deal to me. But you can go to order com slash five. It's very few maybe five eggos giant. No. I think it's just little I went to a collector's item really more than anything. I don't think anyone was clamoring to try the new coq again it failed miserably back in nineteen eighty. Here's my real question where these candidates nine hundred center out, just like thirty something years old. I doubt it to the nutrition label is the modern attrition label say when I saw that headline, I was kind of excited because I thought that's neat that they're bringing back the new coq, I don't I wasn't born yet actually, I don't think US, if you were never strong suit, the new coq tasted pretty much exactly like Pepsi. Oh, interesting. But as all that be kind of fun to, to try, it was more like Pepsi than coke ago at kind of has really young but I can't even I'm not gonna dollars ninety five cents for two cans. And then two bottles of you love stranger things. Take do you watch stranger things, which is the first seasons at behind that? Yeah. I've never seen anything of it. Okay. That's a good show, not food relate. But it's a good show so that shall we move onto ding dongs. Yeah. Because hostess has come out with some new Linda, this is regular one for those that don't remember the chocolate cake with chocolate frosting, in, like a white fillings, light cream by the also make a white fudge ding-dong, which is a white fudge covered golden cake with creamy filling. Talking about the new one. Yeah, the new one I'm excited about it is a peanut butter ding-dong. It is a fudge covered peanut butter cake with peanut butter creamy filling, and I didn't know that it was going to be filled with that much peanut butter in it. Some this one I'm really excited about this knowing we'll have to see if it actually is still with. Yeah, I'm kind of thinking. It's not and I have never had the white fudge dinged on. I'm not really excited about that. But let's have the, the traditional let's go with that Jews. Remember, the difference between the king down the ding Dong, and the king, Don, that, really I believe. Right. It was area. Not careful. What was there was the other brand those just like hostess? Whose name dispaced? I don't know. Little, Debbie businesses freshly there is on the Dalai Madison. No, it was that take because that was more regional no hostess had a Drake. Drakes Drake's cakes believe the hostess and Drake. The hostess version was ding-dong in the Drake was king, Don. I mean, there is a lot of rip-offs going on with snack cakes general. I mean, even dad is doing their version of golden cream cakes twinkie come on. I'm the cupcakes. I mean, what's neck company doesn't have a little chocolate cupcake with the Trump of frosting? The whites were all top ding-dong a time. It's yeah. Gets overlooked will has been my impression that they usually are more likely to be stale, but these are can afresh which, you know. Yeah, that's always the key to any snack because they have a long shelf. Like you wanted the mother or. Usually on the podcast. Have a bite or two. Don't much mind. All right. Should we go onto the white fudge? King dons are also made by hosting. Not drake. Like the devil, had she saying she saying this was not great. She's saying this was Canada. It was labeled king made by hostess. Okay. Interesting. So which when ever going on the one that's probably going to be a disappointment all around. Definitely different take than the other two as well. While it's white chocolate, white cake and just regular cream, and as I take my first by its pre- plane, it's kind of bland, but snap bed. It's kinda like just having a piece of white cake with no frosting. Nines not s cream-filled biting more filling. Off to the side. Yep. They've could throw sprinkles on that. Call birthday cake. If sprinkled in it, if your favorite kind of ice cream is vanilla, you would probably really like these. My dad's watching the I enjoy Bonilla ice cream your favorite probably not my favorite. What is your favorite praising cream? I'll really should go to Baskin Robbins. I didn't find yeah, but they chocolate Buttercream base. Ready for you're gonna finish. With the prospect of peanut butter here. I was surprised. He's better. Be good. So now the peanut butter one still snakes with they have a chocolate coating with some peanut butter lines on the talk. These are the most archery, I'm ready to do these drizzle night doesn't have a lot of filling. But it is peanut buttery. O'brien mayhem. Would, you know, the billing is definitely not like what is pictured which I was expecting? Yeah. I like this. That you can it's very hard to see the filling the same colors came minutes. It's thick like I don't know if I've ever seen a peanut butter cake in any stack before. Oh, maybe not at, like peanut butter, Swiss rolls or something Tojo's Cobos, it was all those. I'm gonna say my at home version, I think I prefer where you take the chocolate cupcakes and you peel off the icing and eat that. And then spread peanut butter on top. That's. I also these are I take a Hershey bar, put peanut butter to her. She with peanut butter and say much I will say, just like anything else a little bit too much like this makes it kind of really thirsty. I don't know if I would say that more or less than any of the others. You. She makes me not water more him as I paced in my mouth. Is that because you have three snack cakes now because of this one, I would like to think it's because of this might be because I don't feel? Yeah. I don't. I'm not getting but yeah. Those. Fine. Let's. I'm not madly in love, but yet it's really good. Would you frolic? We've on a full you have three. Let's we could decide if we want, which one we've all day, wouldn't marry it. But would you marry or kills FM K frolic with Mary, kill this might be difficult for me? I okay go for it go for. I'm gonna felt that the peanut butter. It's good. It's a little, too, which tasted a little too bad for me that it's good for a little fun. But then let's move on. And I'm gonna marry they original the regular, it's just a good standby. It's reliable. Sweet. It's tasty. It's not overpowering one way or the other has a good mount of Fillon just for being boring. I'm going to kill the late fudge. It's a foreign cut off to say, I am the one that likes usually like white chocolate in just plain, sugary things. Chocolate things and I find this boring. I think I can go unless you want to go for all right? Amy, I think white chocolate for me. It really needs something to compliment it, and this doesn't really have anything to complement it other than other. Things that taste the same like strawberry filling or something. Yeah. That would be much better. So I'm also going to kill the white fledge. So then we have the original and the peanut which one that me going to marry which may going to fry with I am going to marry the original ding, dongs. They are the standard the maybe not the most exciting ones, but they're the tried and true ones, and yet this point my life. I just need something, a lot more stable, you know, I'm maturing as a person wise age, why. So that's what I need to, to help me get through the next age of maturity in life. I am going to frolic with peanut butter ding. Dongs. As I said my version is better. And that's the one that I would marry taking the peanut butter. Sorry, cupcake and putting on that, that, that's my love. And this is kind of like things work out. She probably don't make when let go that. And these are regarding because similar so I would go on the rebound with these peanut butter, ding, dongs and have a good good. That make you and Amy this out again. Yes. Dan rea weeks, laugh. Well, you will not be the same. What will be? The same is also going to marry the traditional deny is good. It was everything you want in a snack cake. You know, it's the good memories are still there, every that, you know, what I think is better than a cupcake just like the ratios of everything. Just right. You know, if pretty much perfection in Slough snack cake world, my one critique about ding dongs journal. I think that the chocolate is a little too hard, but any continue. So I mean, the whole is close to, but there is that's essentially the same thing slightly. So at least peanut butter and white flash. In. I am going to frolic with the white fudge. I know you kill it because it was too vanilla. But I think we can spice things you're gonna fry boring. I think that I can have some fun with the white fun. You know, I talked about the sprinkles. I think that I can, you know, maybe the white fudge would be open to bring him some other stuff in to make things interests are check on that for major flight such into hat fudge regular fudge you could do that. You could put some sprinkle a lot of strategies. There's a lot of ways to spice things up with with this vanilla. I think that you can take it from kind of boring cake end up transformed into something, magical short-term magical. But you're kind of saying that she's a double baiter I was just saying bay lighting for years. I think that that's terrible single under saying that's kinda the thing when I'm. Saying this on her own not good enough, you need something to spice it. I'm saying that if I sat down with the white venting guy and was like, hey, you wanna try some sprinkles too? I think white fudge would be like, yeah, I try some or a paper bag, I would be like, hey, do you wanna try some strawberries? I think it'd be great with strawberries and all the sudden you're like pretty route regular frolic that's getting kinda interesting at certainly better than the peanut butter would be. So the peanut butter is gonna die because I was just like you're the answer to a question that nobody was at hell. I was kind of asking it. I mean he wasn't vocal about it. I don't know. You didn't marry it. And you love peanut butter. You again mending the peanut butter might offend better, if it had chocolate cake in more peanut butter filling by the peanut butter might have been better, just hadn't ever come to be if had just died in the idea, Lord. I mean, I think they answer the question they made an answer correctly, but they're not wrong. I'm saying if a discount on the drawing board and never come to fruition. That would have been okay. I'm gonna kill it. Fair enough. Well showing that to our next week tree. Yes milk. Amac's never had one. That was heavenly weeks ago a month ago or so that had our mom will not lose, and what have you been loving. This one is not new get cream in, then we also have chuckle in wafer, actually, has like wafers at Marla talked about how big desire before seeing bigger longer than the box of dogs. So we'll open they longer than the ding-dong Mara's under the dingo makings. Ogle mex-. Wow. He was a welcome down candy. What I mean? Anything dodger good size. They are being doing the maximum tubing together. No. Are you ready are just about it? When are we gonna try? I hear. Both are racing to see which one is going to get. I, I won't go nuts in nougat. All right. In this is not the whole obviously folks just sell the pattern for those video. Now, I normally like you get. Yeah. But I like this. The difference. Reading, Danny Amy Amy divided up. Everybody got one square, Danny. Danny everybody, a rollover, foursquare 'em, keeping the rest of in front of me. I can give you more. I would like more. This is delicious. I I've liked earnt not in this, but the second one the other that, that's what you need more than once. The edge or something. So one of the fishery emphasis nuts. Nougat Hazlitt notes. I'm not getting much new though. I gotta tell you not. Oh, looks like has no. Okay. Nougat cry. Yes. New cream. That's, that's the qualifier here. This is chocolate and creamy chocolate. And yes, I heard it's good. The camel was better. But this bid. I wanna throw it away. Eat it all. Yeah. Definitely the drawing board, the decent amount of nuts here is. Pleasurable. So this chuckle in wafer. I. Right. This came my hope athlete did. Because if you need more. Are people watching Incan show? Bam. It is cows on the every day. Didn't that when I did in Justice Milka book outreach between cows and there were her name. This is interesting. I like I like it was mumbling mouthful. I was thinking it was going to be like a kit, Kat. I'm getting more of those cookies. The sugar. Wafer cookies away for crooked, a layer of chocolate creamy stuff in the harder on top. I like this better than the nets new. I don't think I do. I don't either the wafers a little too much. Too much, get never enough. I like the crunch the normal, the crispiness some upstate's, crisp, even Vinod stops. Trump got you nail that it's now like a cat is mostly waiver. But this out. No, it's like, either there to be hint of it, or that need to be in the show. I think if balances the chocolate, well, but I. It's Brian Zhang's too much, but yet not enough because there's so much of it here that, like you get like a mouthful of it, but it's not mixed in well, enough aren't meshing. Well, I think is the whereas if it was just like kit, Kat, if it was just this way for me, I would go for, like, lots I would go for more of his labor, or none of it. It's like one of those cookies tapped chocolate. Chocolate snot, I won't say top tomatoes fleet consists the labor layer has no chocolate. So then the chapel air is just. The more is like. Needed more like have a Hobart knew that I love during. I'll, I'll take the nuts nougat over here. I mean if like a terrorist broken here and maybe eat it as richer, I would eat it. I mean, torture still livers had better if the month ago, the KOMO appeal one. I'm heavily eating. I don't think I would choose to out on my way to find it. But I would buy the other one, the nougat for sure. One for sure. Amt as with most things that we talked about here. If you want to try these sure you can find them on Amazon. We've found right here in the twin cities, international grocer, but you have a lot of our listeners in considered kosher. Yeah. Certainly trying to, but there's some of your somewhere importing these are if you don't wanna work that hard Amazon's gonna be a good time. Always trying to find things that we have one of today's potato wish wrinkles Levy esque chips, that listener, Chris brought us from China, China. We had trouble translating, but the pictures are nice visit tomato. If we think the plane. We think the brain will Ryan it does say potato wish on the package in this one the steak. Yeah. In within those packages are individual individual chip. But smaller packages to to Bagger. Yeah. Belva no-show start with the regular. Yeah. A good thing you know what to expect. I think maybe cleanser palate from all. South. Oehler tiny. They're very print. They're fun sized. Yeah. Under flat. You can't do the ductless with them. They're just. Let's potato. I feel like they're starchy your that valid young. But I said it on your whether than starchy, but yeah. I don't like Pringles really these are very Pringle. Ask. They're kind of across tween they'll start your giggles if Pringles a cracker made it feel like these would be. The outcome. I feel like the cracker would have to really drunk. Now. He's definitely starts here. I started ranging into the committal to stay. In writing about these almost commando making, I'm guessing it's going to be saying catch up everything kept up. It's smells a lot like catcher when I open these up. Yeah. Ketchupy pointed Google translated. The package did kind of lewd to the back of the tomato on the package was just a picture of tomato, and that it wasn't real tomato in the locks. What did it say? It was like tomato as example something. Okay. All right. I think the smell is stronger than the flavor. Yeah, the, the catch a flavor is very tasteful. But it. Dissipates mickley. Yeah. I mean I'm I'm really getting it's not quite like fries with ketchup. I was thinking it's kind of, like it's kind of Christ, enjoying when you have a fri- that just like brushed up against catch up. The French fry that was like next year pile of catch progress any thought it had more on than it did or you didn't want on their rank by Greg having on the yeah. But that's Ryan with. Final in the last one is no, no. Starchy mess. When I actually opened this individual bag the aroma really hit me harder than it is now. Suppose it does meat. Well. Solicits stating. It looks like a. Holiday. There's a lot going on. It's taste forward. I get the steak but there's a Keating as much stain with me is beefy, very beefy. I'm making a recipe undoing the stake in the catch up to have. No. Definitely not hamburger though. I know it's. I don't even want to say this. You're essentially having your chips, Donald Trump style, because his like DOJ orders, well-done steak with ketchup. Okay. And so if you put this is this is not a juicy steak. This is a well done steak. Are you even getting my I mean it has the play of steak? Are you getting the seared because a lot of Meacham? We get the seared that I'm not getting a lot of the Chuck trust. Just flavor. Yes, yes, this, this is. I'm not Trump mic line call. No, like nine with the catch up chip. Let me my favorite thing. It's unique flavor with two. You know, I'm even going to do that, if there's another greening wreckage. He needs the big Jim, I have stained outings, remain. Luckily, these are all color coded that we can tell them apart. So potato wish we think if you search for that you should be by bees. But thank you so much. Chris for. When you were in China and bring back to us. These fed are terrible. Get the a little tastier. There are tons of those delicious. This is like the worst of Pringles. Outside. No, we had the liquorice last week who the twizzlers. Yeah, I brought the sweet and sour to work and people. The lived most kind of thing I heard was all awesome. These plato. And I mean. Did either of you ever want to Plato, you know what I had this money making scheme involving play though, when Gile his Crohn's and Plato? What was your money making scheme? There was a lot of information having. I did not eat the plate of it when I was a kid when I would do I would take I would get rolling pin. Roll it out both Plato out into thin like sugar cookie cookie cutters. Thank cut out the Plato's. I leave him out to dry some of the hall in. It's like an ornament men when my parents would have garage sale, which they did it every summer. I would sit and sell my Plato creations. 'cause if you like Mel the colors together and people, you know, like a blockage, people would would buy the little Plato, ornaments from the Hugh kin who was on sound. I was a kid kid. I'm gonna Hanson. He's saying kids, but he was fifteen. Well, I mean like you know, they have all the McDonald's in where you can have the little moles make your fries. I mean, I wanna eat those apparently, a lot of people wanted to eat play Krantz. Yeah. Well, they looked tasting. They weren't at any of them. What was the sixty four color pack. How many Krantz get down to almost nothing and you couldn't use? It will. Checking my brother eggnog onto an older brother, who says, so I mean like you ate it. And you're like, oh, this isn't good. And I think, yeah, I mean once yet look twice really not times, then like twice. It's not tons. But I think it seems like more than I remember eating, but I don't remember eating tons of them. Seriously, two sittings. Not guess, to yes, right? Chewy kinda like expected to be like, wax lips or gum in it. Still doesn't taste good, so tribes never taste. Yeah. They have I flavor than getting. There's something there. But yet it. Relievers starts gum, where you get a burst of flavor, and then nothing. This is explaining a lot, though. Coming out. I feel very enlightened elk. Podcasts. Yes. Thank you, Chris, again, for bringing us, these chips of we appreciate that always appreciate food gifts from our listeners. Remember anyone listening watching, if you want to try something, let us know we had to request a while ago for some specific chips that we've been trying to find, but we will always take suggestions. I'm gonna grab my outright fudge. Sting is in radio fraiche to see how we can mix things up. Okay, I'll be there. If you need me. But I. Everyone.
Bridge of Sorrow
"True. Crime brewery contains disturbing content related to real life crimes. Medical information is opinion based on facts of a crime and should not be interpreted as medical advice or treatment. Listener discretion is advised. Girls went into the store, and when they came out they had a flat tire, and he's two guys on the parking lot offered to help them. And he didn't have a spare tire. So said, well, we'll take you home. Well, instead, they took per and terrorized them all the way out to Fremont canyon. And you know in Becky was very kind and would go with anybody. And she just didn't want big not to hurt. Her sister. Welcome to true crime burry. I'm Jill and I'm dick happy new year. Everybody just before nine pm on September. Twenty fourth nineteen Seventy-three eighteen year old Becky Thomson was leaving to buy groceries and she asked her eleven year old half sister, Amy Burridge, if she wanted to tag along the two traveled in becky's Ford station wagon to the thrift way store on twelfth and Melrose streets in casper, Wyoming when Becky and Amy came out of the store. One of the car's tires was flap unbeknownst to the sisters the two men who had slashed the tire Jerry Jenkins and Ronald Kennedy were the same guys who pulled into the parking spot next to them at that moment, and the men offered to help Becky and Amy had been set up for an abduction that night was the night when becky's worst nightmare came through on the Fremont canyon bridge the. Cold heartedness in cruelty of Jenkins and Kennedy was more than anyone in the community could comprehend and it would hunt Becky until the day that she died. So this is a truly haunting case for our New Year's episode one of the most disturbing cases for me. I guess for personal reasons it's just a really upsetting case for me. It's been hard for me to research it who's a tough case. It really was. So what kind of a beer are we going to have to drink to get us through this. We're going to have sour ill. Well, thank sticky. We're thinking of me weren't you are worse. This is a sour called the serpent. Cerise by snake river brewing company in Jackson, Wyoming. So as we've said, it's a sour. So it's hazy reddish, amber coloured beer with a big fat, long-lasting Whitehead. Nice looking beer, and it's got what you'd want sour cherry oak. Some vanilla. There's a hint. And current sounds delicious. It is it's a very tart medium dry. Nice beer Goodwin. Yeah. Let's scoot trend down to the quiet end in talk about today's episode of true crime brewery bridge of sorrow. Okay, ready? I am so September twenty fourth nineteen Seventy-three sheriff Jenkins was only year old. But when her daddy Jerry Jenkins got up in the morning. She would always climb out of her bed to find him at seven o'clock. Jerry was getting ready to go to work at the gestation who are he'd been employed for a few weeks. Jerry's headed tough time holding jobs. Yeah. You could say that. Yes. So he's he's working there allegedly and share titled into a parent's bedroom. Hugged one of her father's legs her mother diocese up. Also now dicey is only eighteen so she's barely out of childhood herself. Yeah. I mean, you could argue she's really not you certainly could she's very young. And it was the data share is baby sister who had been born only a month before was coming home from the hospital. She had been hospitalized for a brain infection, encephalitis or meningitis or something. And she has finally well enough to return home, go, right? And Jerry really just didn't give a shit. Let's be honest. No. I mean, we're not going to be showing too much sympathy for either of these two guys to the total scum that little scumbag. You're right. So well share and Jerry waited for Dorsey to pour some cereal they ate cookies and candy. Jerry's. Cray station wagon had a flat and he needed to get to work. So he borrowed d'arcy's white empower whether heating breakfast Jerry mentioned Hughes having trouble at work. He just wasn't happy. There. He told Darcy now dicey been with Jerry long enough to know what that meant. He was gonna quit that is if he hadn't already been fired Jerry would always promised to find a job in stick with it. But it never kept a job very long. He hated to be told what to do. So he's twenty nine. He's lazy irresponsible just basically drinks and smokes weed during the day he promised he'd be back by one to go pick up the baby at the hospital. Yeah. So Jerry laughed and Darcy spent the rest of the morning getting the apartment ready for the baby to come home. She fed little share some lunch, but one PM came and went and no, Jerry and no call from Jerry at two pm. She called the gas station where he worked. And of course, Jerry never came to work that day, the bus told her in fact, he hadn't been to work in several days. She learned so poor Darcy here. She is eighteen to tiny little kids, and she's with this irresponsible asshole of a guy and he's worse than she even knew. Of course, we'll come to find that out. Little shero was born in June nineteen seventy two and a month later Jerry sent a message to Darcy that he wanted to see his baby. So she was fearing that he would stop her forever. If she didn't let him see the baby. So she met with him secretly. Because of her parents found out they would be livid then two weeks later, she was back together with Jerry and two months after that they went away to a small town nearby, and they got married without her parents approval after that they moved around a lot that first year, but they finally settled into a cheap apartment and Darcy worked hard as a nurse's aide. And as a waitress. Jerry did take jabs, but they never lasted long. Instead he liked to stay home and watch soap operas on TV almost two years since they had met Darcy finally decided to leave Jerry for good this episode with the newborn coming home from the hospital is apparently the final straw for her. So she planned to move to Colorado where her parents live she'd leave that night, she decided as soon as cherry did get home with the only working car they own. She grew even more determined when a friend visited her and told her he'd seen Jerry, and is no good friend. Ron Kennedy drinking and playing pool her friend ended up driving Darcy the the hospital pick up the new baby and back at home. She laid the baby in the bed and started packing getting ready to get out of there. So after school that day, Amy Burridge walked home with her best friend, Danny Amy, hit always been more comfortable with boys than girls. She was a tomboy in quite outspoken. She was eleven years old, Amy. Rather ride a dirt bike than play with the Dow when the other neighborhood girls were playing house in dress up Amy was out in the sandlot with the neighborhood, boys. So Danny and Amy played some football together until the sun went down that day, and then they sat on the lawn. Chatting, they hated to go inside. They never wanted the day to end, especially when they could be outdoors playing Amy's older. Half sister Becky came out of the house with her car keys, a little before nine pm mom wants me to get some stuff at the store Becky told her why don't you come along? So Amy got up and turn to Danny and wanted him to go with her, but he wasn't allowed to he asked his mom, and she said, no it's nine pm on a school night. You have to come in so Amy shrugged and waved Becky smiled and the two girls drove away. Jerry Jenkins had left his apartment that morning, and he'd gone straight over to run Kennedy's place. Kennedy didn't have a job he lived with his wife at his mother's house. And he wanted to spend as much time away as possible to avoid any responsibilities in the home Jenkins had skipped work for a few days by then, but this was his payday so he wanted Kennedy to go down to the gas station where he was working tell his boss a story about Jerry being sick and up. Jerry's check so Kennedy agreed to they played pool and drink beer and Jenkins hit out our local truck stop cafe while Kennedy Whitten lied for him. So instead of calling his wife or going home Jenkins, drove Kennedy around for the next five or six hours looking for girls and stopping at bars. So around nine p m Jenkins decided he needed to go buy some cigarettes and get something to eat. The thrift way convenience store Jenkins. Still had a little bit of his paycheck left. Even though it only cash that afternoon they've been spending it on beer and stuff important things. And he's got two little babies at home worry about feeding his family tomorrow share. So he pulled in park that almost the same time as a white station wagon pulled it a tall dark haired, girl and a little girl. Pigtails got out the older grow is absolutely beautiful sound this. Of course was Amy and her big sister. Becky right at nine thirty him. He called her mom to tell mom. We had a flat, and there's too nice men are going to give us a ride home. Mom said okay. Be careful in hurry. And it's a school night. We gotta get her home. She's got to get to school in the morning. Mom says I'll wait up. Right. So her mom was Tony case, and Tony was already in her pajamas. And although she'd been worried by her daughters delay getting home that night, she felt better after she got the call from Amy because she knew they were safe. So after that call they should have been home in less than thirty minutes because the store was just a mile away. Tony hadn't needed much that night. Just a few things. There wasn't much to eat in the house because they just come home from Mexico where they'd been visiting. Tony's husband Jack who was the girl's stepfather. So Tony had been married. Three times. I think or believe so I think this was her third husband and the other two girls were from the previous two husbands and her husband Jack was working on a drilling project down in Mexico. So they'd visited him and they'd come home not much food in the house. She wants Becky to go to the store. So Becky does that now the next day was a Tuesday, which would be a school day. So of course, Amy needs to get home and it's already past her bedtime. It was getting near her bed time when she went to the store with her sister. But Tony had allowed it because Amy like to go to the store with her sister. Of course. So almost forty five minutes past and the girls still didn't come home. So Tony began worrying again, she put on some jeans, and she drove to the convenience store, and she went slowly taking the back streets thinking, she might find them walking home. Maybe the ride that they had fell through and they had to walk home. Maybe they had stopped along the way to rest because they were carrying bags now is Tony pulled into the store's parking lot. She saw becky's car was still there the rear passenger tire was flat. But the girls were gone. She opened the door which was on locked, and there were no groceries, the no girls inside the parking lot was otherwise empty and the store was closed. So this is kind of a haunting scene for a mom to come. Upon release scary. She's home by herself girls are going husbands down in Mexico. Yeah. And there's no reasonable explanation. Why the girls aren't home well now, and she had to be thinking they said two guys we're giving them a ride. Maybe these turned out not to be such nice guys. Probably starting to get a little panicky. Yeah. I would so Tony drove up and down the streets between the store in their home looking for them. And this is the nineteen seventies. So I think you didn't go right to the police back. Then you drove around you looked for people because things just weren't the way they are. Now, it was more carefree. That's for sure. So for almost two hours, she searched for her daughters, and it was a little past twelve thirty in the morning when she finally did call the police dispatcher took her information and notified the Monday night patrol cruisers to look out for the girls. No investigator was coming on duty until eight in the morning and Tony didn't know enough to complain about that and get someone sooner. They just waited. Casper didn't have many police working at night. And it's time pass. Tony's fear grew since her husband, Jack was still in Mexico. She called up a friend to come and spend the night with her and she lay in her bed that night listening for the sound of a car in the driveway or for her daughter's walking through the door just hoping that something horrible head and happen to them. Something horrible head. Yeah. Fortunately, girls have been adopted by these two slime balls, and they'd been forced to lie down in the pack seat of the car for two or three hours has jenkinson. Kennedy drove them around kind of aimlessly beating them terrorizing them girls s more than once. What was going to happen where they're going to be killed? The two men would laugh at him slap him tell him to shut up. So as you can imagine Amy Mbeki were terrified as they drove. The guys told them that they were going to meet a man who would decide what to do with them. They crossed a bridge, and they stopped pushed down on the seat the girls couldn't see much, but in the reflected glow of headlights. They thought they saw roof of some kind of a house or a building. So they thought well the man must live there. And we'll ask him to be merciful. Let us go home in. Maybe this nightmare will go away. Maybe it'll end up just being a story. We can tell when we're older the. Skinny guy with the crazy eyes was Kennedy, and he got out of the passenger side door and pulled the seat forward and reached for little Amy. He said, you I you can't go together and the girls both begged him to take them together to see this man Becky said, please let me go first because she's the older sister. And of course, she felt responsible for her little sister. But her cries, enter please were completely ignored. Meanwhile, Dorsey Jenkins, cherries wife had decided that the best thing she could do is to get away as far from Jerry as possible. Now, she decided that rather than wait for him to return with the Impala, she'd make a clean get-away. She went to visit some friends in the next apartment and asks him to help her fix the station, wagons flat. So while they change the tire. She started throwing everything into the back of the car getting ready to leave. He haven't done after dark Darcy had some second thoughts. She decided she'd hang around until he. Got home. So she could look him in the eye and tell him that she was done with him. And this way, maybe she could take the white Impala with her to which was the better of the cars that they had. So she waited for him. But the hours passed after she put the babies to bed. She went to see the neighbors who'd fixed your tire and one of the neighbors stayed up with her that night drinking coffee and just letting her vent about this. No good husband that she had before we get into the real HARA FANG stuff. 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They started up casper mountain but Jenkins headed turnaround because the car overheated, and he also remembered that the tires were bald they drove back through town and headed out toward a reservoir, which is about twenty five miles away. Kennedy said he had a fan who've been hit by a car a couple of days earlier, the car was identical. The becky's forty told him, and there is a young woman in a little girl in it, the girls he said left the scene and his friend was paralyzed from the neck down. Now, his friend was in a trailer lying low because he was in trouble. And they're going to go out and see him. They said if it wasn't becky's car, then they would take the girls home. But if it was them they would pay for it in it will be killed. So they seem like they're actually tormenting the girls doesn't it beyond all the horrors of objection rape killing. There's a lot of tormenting going on with this whole made up story about a man kind of trying to give them hope and then pulling it out from under them. It's really cruel. Yeah. Amy was afraid that she could be hurt by these two creeps or murdered or murdered. And she insisted it couldn't have been them because they just returned from Mexico. So Kennedy says well, we'll just go out there and see. Then Jerry said he was the one that slashed their tire. And then he told them he and his friend, Jerry. We're Hells Angels. And they were working for the mafia selling drugs, he told him they've already had a friend take becky's car from the grocery store light and smash it up in a ditch. If they weren't the girls who hurt their friend who said, they take them back to that smashed up car and leave them they were to keep their mouths shut. And said it had a car wreck. Kennedy also took Becky that would explain her now bleeding nose swollen. I because they had been used in the two girls punching bags while they're driving around. Yeah. Kennedy and Jenkins were drinking from a case of beer, which they were keeping on the seat between them, and they were whispering back and forth. They offered some beer to Becky who refused. It becky. Of course was desperate to protect Amy and herself she s both Kennedy and Jenkins about their lives and their families trying to get some, you know, humanizing top going on here. Jenkins told her he was thirty nine and not married. Kennedy said he was twenty nine and not married Jenkins said that he and Kennedy had been in Vietnam together and Kennedy had been shot in the head there. Now, he's more animal than man Jenkins said about Kennedy and of as a warning to the girls he said that he could tell Kennedy anything and Kennedy would do it. So it's important to point out here that Jenkins was acting like he was in charge because later on Jenkins's trying to blame everything on Kennedy is if he was just a long he was just the driver testimony from Jenkins who said he was just doing what Kennedy told him to do. Of course, they neared a little roadside store. Kennedy pulled out a knife and jumped up in his seat. He started stabbing and seed around the growth legs now later on. Investigators would remember that the punctures in the backseat outlined girl's body. Then Egypt the open blade towards becky's breasts and held a close to heart. Put your hand on the blade. You order an Amy started screaming and crying. Uncontrollably. Tried to hold her sister's hand, but Kennedy wouldn't let them hold hint. Becky, I love you so much. Emmy, cried Kennedy pushed her hands away from Becky he asked the Amy asked if she could ask them a question and ask them if they were going to murder her and Kennedy acted surprised and offended. Oh, no. Honey, he said you've been watching too many detective stories on TV Jenkins turned off onto a lower row to Pathfinder reservoir. And that would cross the Fremont canyon bridge. Kennedy and Jenkins were whispering to each other. And Becky was begging them not to whisper and to tell them what they were saying because you know, the whispering. Of course, you're going to think what the hell are they talking about? Right. Well, I'm getting worried right? Yeah. The name. He whispered the Becky Becky if we ever get through this on never be greedy again. So it seems that to Amy going to the store to buy candy for herself with somehow the cause of their ordeal. This just makes me wanna cry doesn't it? This little girl was blaming herself in Becky Toler, Amy. It's not your fucking head off. Don't worry. Then the car's headlights flashed across the steel of a bridge Jenkins drove across the bridge, slowly and parked on a narrow dirt road at the far end of the bridge. Yeah. And then he said, okay here we are. And he said that they couldn't both go in at the same time. So both the girls were begging him to let them go together and Kennedy opened his door and the dome light showed Becky swollen bruised and bloody face. So this was the first time that Amy really saw how bad becky's face looked. And she screamed Kennedy handed Becky is open beer can. And she took a sip from the can then Kennedy told Amy to get out of the car and come with him at this point, Amy stopped crying. And she said, okay. Becky, she crawled over her sister becky's lap and got out of the door that Kennedy was holding. And she told her sister that she loved her. And this was the last time that Becky would ever see Amy as she was dragged away from that car, then Kennedy came back, and he was only gone a couple of minutes. He told Becky that her little sister was talking to the man and then. He said we're supposed to go up the road a bit. And wait for a signal then we'll come back down when it's your turn to talk to him. So Jenkins started up the car and the two men were whispering again, Becky, begged them not to whisper at this point. She's hysterical. They drove about one hundred and fifty yards up the road and stopped the car, then Kennedy Andreas and climbed into the back seat. He took off becky's close. She pushed him away trying to block his hands. But he tore off her Bronner panties. And he climbed on top of her Becky told him she'd never had intercourse before, but he raped her. It was very painful, but he really seemed to enjoy her suffering the more she seemed in pain the more. He liked it Jenkins who'd been sitting in the front smoking a cigarette and watching this rape got out of the car climbed in the back, and he also raped Becky. When they were finished with that Becky asked if she could get dressed, she thanked them for not letting her little sister, see the rape Jenkins got back in the car and started it then he backed down the doctor road to the spot where they first stopped where Kennedy had taken Amy out of the car and disappeared for a few minutes. So at this point becky's thinking, she's going to see her little sister, they raped her. And then maybe heard a little sister will be able to go home. But that isn't what happened at all. The men parked beside an old outhouse Jenkins shut off the car in both men got out. Now the night was pitch black hannidy and Jenkins stood on either side of the car door as Becky got out of the car, and they each took one of her arms and walked her into the darkness at the bridge less than thirty steps from the car. Kennedy spoke he said, okay, we're going to meet Amy right here. Now, he said here is if this was their queue because on the word here, both of the men grabbed her and tried to lift her over the guardrail. It was only three feet high. But they couldn't get her over it. So they weren't very strong, but she fought them with all of her strength. They couldn't get her to let go of the rail. So Jenkins began choking her. Jenkins. Make sure she's gonna die. Make sure she'll be dead at that moment Becky had to make an impossible choice. She could be strangled and thrown from the bridge unconscious or she could take chances at surviving the fall. So she went limp pretending to be unconscious, then she let herself off in the bridge. She was in a free fall hit allege and then hit the water the fell into the river. Had crippled her in her legs didn't work. She was eighteen but she'd never broken a bone before. But she believed at this point that are lakes must have been broken. They just kind of hung from her hips. Freezing cold, and useless and throbbing with pain Jenkins and Kennedy hadn't let Becky putter panties. Brought back on just your sweater entered jeans. And when they dumped her off the bridge into the dark. She slammed into a stone ledge her body bounced off the wall and plummeted downward. She hit the water. Her lungs burned is water built her airway and she Claude in the water with their hands is the water had pulled her down. And she fought so hard her pants had slipped off of her. So when she finally made it to the surface of the river, it was still near freezing. She paddled to some granite slabs dragging her legs out of the water. She felt like screaming, but she was worried that the two men were waiting for her up on the bridge stones said cut into her skin. Is she dragged herself along she fell into some of the river brush between two boulders which protected or a little bit from the wind. Then she heard their voices from the top of the canyon, which was more than one hundred feet up. They were talking and laughing her hips were aching and she wanted to cry, but she had to keep silent because she was afraid of them hearing her and coming back for her Becky photo sleep and tried to avoid imagining that Amy might be down there. In the water. Now the next day Parlin Dorothy stressor rose at done. They intended to go fishing that day they had the day off. And it was gonna be a nice day to be out in the fresh air, although the state highway was faster to their fishing hole. They drove along the more scenic lower road to Pathfinder reservoir. So as a strategist drove over the bridge a little after eight in the morning, they saw flicker of color that looked at a place, and it was moving a Brown haired girl lay in the dirt at the end of the bridge, waving her arms. Her red sweater was torn in dirty, and she is nude from the waist down Carl Strasser break the car jumped out and ran over to the girl. She was pale dirty letty. He could see the cuts where she dragged herself across the gravel of the canyon. It was near freezing. Dorothy took an old blanket from the trunk and covered. Becky, her face was caked with dried blood, her left eye was swollen shut side of her. Head was Bruce too deep purple. White fat tissue and blood congealed around a long gash on her left, hip and her legs that were covered with blood didn't work at all. My god. What happened to you? Carl ask Becky answered I was raped and thrown off the bridge. And my little sister was too. She's down there someplace, and I think she's dead Becky covered or exposed lower body is best. She could with her hands. Carl took off his jacket and tied the arms around pick his ways to cover her as she couldn't stand the stressors lifted her into the backseat of their car turn the heater up. Full blast. Carl ran to the bridge railing and leaned out looking down. He didn't wanna waste time. Looking for a body that might not be there? But he didn't wanna leave Amy down there if she needed help too. But he saw nothing. So he decided to get help for Becky back in the car. He drove toward Sloan store, which is a roadside market about ten miles down. On the road on the way, Becky was crying and she asked for water they gave her some hot coffee to drink. She told the strassler's more of her story about the abduction the rape. Enter fall from the bridge down in that dark canyon. She had called out for Amy but got no answer. At the store. Carl ran inside to call the sheriff while Dorothy stayed with Becky in the car twenty minutes later, the sheriff in an ambulance arrived, the sheriff himself questioned Becky and confirmed that she was one of the two girls who had been reported missing by their mother the night before on their way to the hospital Becky became angry. She wanted to stay alive at least in part. So she could see these men punished in the hospital Becky told police how she and Amy had gone to the thrift way to buy some groceries a little after nine pm it was dark when they left and they parked near the store's front door. Fifteen minutes later, they got in becky's Ford station wagon and backed up a few feet, but Becky notice that her right rear tire was flat. This made her mad. She said because she just had it fixed a couple of days earlier, she pulled back into her parking spot beside two guys in a white car who asked if she needed. Help. So the driver was the fat guy with greasy light colored hair wearing a denim jacket. His passenger was a skinny wild eyed guy who called himself Kenny and that was Kennedy. Now, they rummaged through Jerry's truck to find Jack, and they jacked up becky's car a few inches and then stopped. When Becky described her attackers, the policemen were pretty sure they knew who they were Ronald Kennedy and Jerry Jenkins were small time crooks who hung out together quite a bit. And every cop in the area knew them and didn't think much of them. So they told Becky they were going to go to another station and see if they could fix her tire real quick. That'd be great Becky said and waited for them. So Becky told Amy to run over to the nearby convenience store payphone and call their mom to tell her that they had a flat, but some nice men were going to help them, and they'd be right home, the two guys left, but they were back in just five minutes, and that was before Amy had returned from the convenience store. Now, the men wanted Becky to go with them to the station, but Becky said just a minute. I've gotta go get my little sister Amy had gone into the store after the phone call to her mom and bought herself. Some candy Becky hurried her along. And they went back to her car together where Kennedy and Jenkins were. Awaiting Hannity, then came up beside Becky and stuck a knife against her ribs. And that's when she knew that her and her sister were in big trouble. And that's when they got them into the car. Now, this is just so haunting and terrifying to me because as a teenager, we went out and did things ourselves me, and my girlfriends missus tres, and there were always creepy guys around trying to get you in the car trying to talk to you. So this could have happened to me so easily. Where you're of the when it was common for people to be taking rights from strangers. We don't do that anymore. But I never did take rides from strangers. But it could have happened. I certainly could've you were smart. I was scared and you head pig sisters, and parents who told you these things. Well, I'm just saying that could easily have been me or many of the girls I grew up with in this situation, which just makes my blood just go cold to think about it. So when Tony case was finally allowed to see her daughter doctors, and nurses were still working on her wounds and police were asking her questions Becky turned to a mother in tears and said, mama. I don't think Amy's coming back. So well, Tony comforted Becky a doctor removed a contact lent that have become trapped in her swollen. I so investigators arranged for a photo lineup for Becky she easily picked out Kennedy and Jenkins later that morning. Detectives staked out Kennedy's house. This was his mother's house where Kennedy was living at the time. Then they heard on police radio that both Kennedy end Jenkins had been spotted together in Kennedy's old green pickup on the nearby highway. They are about to return to the house when investigators so Kennedy's track going down the street right past them. But Kennedy was alone. So if Jenkins had been with him he'd apparently gotten out of the truck after a few blacks Kennedy stopped at a stop light on a main street. A few pedestrians crossed in front of his truck investigator, Dave develo leapt from his car and ran to the center of the main street to Kennedy's open window. He drew his handgun is renting than it. Quickly opened the driver's side door and drag Kennedy out onto the road. With the car's engine still running develop arrested Ronald Kennedy who has taken to the police department only thirty paces away from where he was cuffed right there by. The court house and the police station roof handy, but this is some police work on this is kind of Starsky and hutch jumping out of the car. Pulling the gun in the door opens his big stuff, and this policeman would become very close to Becky over the years. He actually walked her down the aisle at her wedding, your they became friends. Yes, now Jerry Jenkins was spotted on foot headed to a neighborhood liquor store one that he'd actually robbed a few years before with Ron Kennedy two cups pulled up in a cruiser beside him and told him he was under arrest in Jenkins acted surprised. They read him his rights and cuffed him telling him that he was a suspect in a rape and murder. There was a pocket knife in Jenkins pants pocket. The same knife. Kennedy had used to abduct and terrorize Becky and Amy that night before now that afternoon Jerry Jenkins was brought into the interrogation room. In handcuffs. He kept his head down. He'd been in police custody for less than an hour kept in a holding cell at the end of the hall and throughout his interrogation. He put most of the blame on Kennedy, and he refused to answer if he had raped Becky now at age twenty nine Jenkins already knew the criminal Justice system. Very well. He ran away from home four times when he was fifteen always returned to his parents until the last time when he was turned over to juvenile probation officers. His father Edgar Jenkins was a truck driver who was often away from home. The Jenkins family was a big mess getting drunk and fighting. We're just commonplace. The father beat the mother and the kids, and they moved around frequently the kids got into drugs and crime when they were quite young now while other kids in the neighborhood, we're going to the soda shop together to the movies Jenkins fell in with the local troublemakers. Stealing cars and staying drunk most of the time. So Jenkins was arrested nine times before he even turned eighteen some of the offenses public drunkenness careless driving vagrancy and even a hit and run. He served two sentences at the Wyoming boy school a reformatories for juvenile offenders. And at eighteen he said he wanted to join the army, so they let him out he passed the test. But as soon as he was out he went AWOL before he was even inducted into the army when summer night in nineteen sixty eight Jerry Jenkins in another man got drunk, and they somehow got a nineteen year old woman into their car supposedly to get a soda at a local diner. But instead they drove her to a deserted road park beside a deep era Gatien canal and raped her. They later dumped her alive behind an apartment building in town and they threatened to kill her. She told the cops. Sweated happened. But she did tell the cops and Jenkins in this other guy were arrested. The other man's trial was first and he was convicted of first degree rape. But before Jenkins truck could start the raped woman decided she had suffered enough throughout the cross examination in the first guys trial. So she refused to testify further. And Jerry Jenkins walked. So Jenkins described how he and Kennedy had driven back to town dump becky's person some other evidence of another bridge. And then he dropped Kennedy at his house Jenkins. Arrived home around two in the morning. Now, his wife wasn't home at the time. But when she did arrive, they fought until after done the next morning groggy instill a little drunk 'cause he inhaled the ocean of beer the day. This Jenkins had another beer little hair the dog, he told police that he'd contemplated surrendering. But while driving around you so Kennedy over coffee at a truck stop on the edge of town. He confessed to feeling guilty and wanted to spill his guts to police then he said that he met Kennedy for coffee and Kennedy threatened his life. If you told anyone would they had done. So they didn't really believe that he had said that to Kennedy. He's just trying to look like he was the innocent one. It's all bullshit. Yeah. So when the case finally went to trial Becky testified against both men. She had to point them out in the courtroom as Kennedy actually taunted her by smiling while sliding his finger across his throat. They were both convicted of first degree murder rape and assault and battery they were sentenced to death, but their sentences were reduced to life in prison in nineteen seventy seven when the Wyoming supreme court overturned the state's death penalty. So every time the two would come up for parole. Becky had to relive that horrible night. Hannity had been appealing for retrial an effort that friends say was very troubling. And frightening for Becky so Becky launched a statewide petition opposing parole for the two men, and she gathered hundreds of signatures, her sisters who were still alive Kelly bridge and Blyth Johnson were among those going door to door getting the signatures with her so Becky had a fairly successful life for a while. She sold advertising for a casper radio station as she got older, and she was a friendly. High functioning woman she loved to play jokes. And she never forgot anyone's birthday. She also had a daughter who she adored. Yeah. But beneath her friendly smile, she was plagued with guilt about Amy Steph. She has survived an Amy had not. And she carried Amy's picturing her wallet for her entire life. So that night in what happened never left her? No. I mean, just put women hedges major PTSD. Yeah. You're right. And I don't know if she got is much therapy as she probably should have. I don't know. But I mean, just living through something like that. It kind of destroyed are really it really kind of destroyed who she was. She was never the same. But she really tried seems like she put it in such an effort to try and get along in life. She did. But by nineteen ninety two almost twenty years after the murder and rape. She was just plunging deeper and deeper into despair, she was divorced in debt alcoholic and filled with fear that Kennedy and Jenkins might actually succeed in an appeal to get a new trial and go free. Well, there has to be a real fear that has to be terrifying. Doesn't it? Yeah. I mean, if they're going up before the parole board and doing appeals I'd be terrified. So that July nineteen ninety two with their boyfriend. Enter two year old daughter Becky took a drive to the site of Amy's murder in this. She stood on the bridge. Her boyfriend stepped away briefly to put their child in the car. And at that moment, he heard a crash and Becky was gone. Becky's death came just days before the announcement that Kennedy and Jenkins had been denied a new trial. She was raped and murdered nineteen years ago. But she died Friday said sheriff Davila who had arrested the two men the day that Becky had crawled out of the canyon and who had been part of becky's life. On the day. She died Becky was thirty seven and she acknowledged her boyfriend's pleading driven along the winding hilly country roads to the free mind. Canyon bridge sky was clear and the sun was setting standing perilously above the narrow gorge Becky plunged to her death becky's boyfriend inner two year old daughter from her failed marriage with her the night. She died the boyfriend said Becky wouldn't tell him why she wanted to return to the bridge. She hadn't been there in all the years. This is the first time she worked up, the courage or whatever to go there. And maybe just being there was too much for her. Yeah. Or maybe she was planning to kill herself that's possible too. So the boyfriend said she just said she had to go there in the more. I told her not to go there the fast as she went when she was hitting seventy miles an hour. That's when I shut up. Yes. So Becky pulled the car to the far side of the bridge. And she her boyfriend in her two year old daughter walked beside the waist, high railing Becky pointed out where the men had raped her where they thrown her over where she'd hit the protruding rock ledge, and where she'd spent the night shivering and terrified thinking they might come back for her thinking that her little sister was dead below her. She was dangling her legs through the railing and resting her arms on top of it. And she was crying as she told her boyfriend how she had begged the men, please don't hurt or rape, Amy. She told her boyfriend she loved him and ran her hands through his hair, and he told her that the baby shouldn't see her cry. And that's when he was taking the baby back to the car. And that's when he heard the crash of becky's body hitting the water. He ran back to the bridge with the daughter in his arms, and the baby was crying and screaming, and he was crying and screaming. It was just a horrible horrible day. Police who ruled out foul play pulled becky's body out of the water just about an hour later, and this was very near where they had found Amy's body at the bottom of the shallow water there. Becky had landed near the Bank in about three feet of water. And like her sister nineteen years before she had a broken neck and massive head injuries. So none of us can never know. Exactly. What through becky's mind in the last few moments of her life, or whatever we're going on in the weeks in hours leading up to her death. But it's very haunting just to think about what she was dealing with. She spent that long night at the bottom of the canyon. And one thing that we read in the book the darkest night by Ron Francis will which is a book about this case was that there was kind of a false dawn that night that would have led her to believe it was morning that it was becoming morning, and it would be light soon. When actually she was still hours away from daylight your shoes trying to survive the night and started getting late, and she was thinking dawn was coming. But it was just Matric of the light. And Dan was still a few hours away. The other thing that's amazing to me. This woman had a record held us. So from the waist down her legs were pretty much useless. Yeah. Nevertheless, she climbed a hundred feet or so out of that canyon under the road. And I guess climb isn't the way to put it very accurately. She pulled herself out. Well, it is amazing. Because other people have said they tried to make that climb in perfectly. Good health, and it's tough. Right with four good extremities right now. Another thing about ROY friends story of win Becky killed herself. Is that the week before she bought ode to Billie Joe, which is a movie about a boy who couldn't cope with memories of being molested and jumped off Mississippi's Tallahassee bridge, and he said that Becky watched this four times that week and cried each time, and she just said that she had to see it because it reminded her and she liked to cry for friends and family would say that Becky lived in fear of her abductor's. She was just terrified that they would escape or be paroled and returned to kill her. So although she went for years without drinking. She did recently start drinking again shortly before her death and the night she died she and her boyfriend shared two pitchers of beer. So her family thinks about this. They come up with what they think happened that night and her mother thought. That alcohol gave Becky a false sense of courage to face, your fears. And then once she got there. She just couldn't cope with being there. Maybe she thought that she would go there, and she could get past all the feeling she had her PTSD by facing it head on Becky stepfather jet case likes to think that she just lost her balance that she didn't want to die. But she slipped. You're our former husband said, maybe she jumped off in an upholstery vet. But it almost seems like this was planned to me. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was. I think that she had this in mind when she went there access may also said that the Becky always thought that she should have died and not her sister in he thought that she was at the point where she just gave up the reason she went back to the bridge who's because of her sister to be with Amy. Research does show a strong link between PTSD and suicide a study in the journal, depression and anxiety found that of those who reported a past traumatic event. Twenty eight percent have attempted suicide in a study published in the journal social psychiatry and psychiatric epidemiology found that of those with chronic PTSD more than half had some suicidal thoughts and nearly ten percent had made attempts after the trauma. So it's very possible that Becky jumped off that bridge on purpose. She had so much to deal with she did years earlier Becky had been referred to a psychiatrist to his going to help redu with their issues. The psychiatrist told her that she was blocking out many of remembers of the crime, and he thought she would do better if she could remember everything that had happened. So he scheduled a session in a private office at the hospital. Now, she. Later told friends that the psychiatrists made her breathe gaseous truth serum. That would help unlock memories she had pushed beyond her conscious grasp. The doctor told her to let him know when she started feeling the slightest bit unusual, but because she was an addict, and because the gas is first soothing affects gay for kind of euphoria. She didn't say anything she woke up three days later couldn't remember anything, but she did have a vague memory of some sexual encounter while she is in a dream state half awake. When she told her friends most of them passed it off as a drug induced hallucination, and when she told her group therapists about it. They asked the psychiatrist to answer any question. She might have in front of her fellow addicts and other Steph Becky was humiliated and back down. It not only disgraced her, but she felt she is risking heaven the entire medical community turning against her. Well, plus you have to remember she's already been victim of sexual assault. So this is very difficult for her. But what's really interesting to me is that this psychiatrist did alternately face at least three lawsuits by former patients who said that he did have improper sex with them. They were all settled out of court between nineteen ninety and nineteen ninety two each for six figure amounts. So it sounds like there's something to that. Certainly those this psychiatrist also lost his, Idaho, medical license. And then he fled to Texas in nineteen Ninety-three about a year after Beck is death. He was extradited back to Wyoming to face fifteen sexual assault charges in criminal court. And in a plea bargain. He pleaded no contest to to second degree rape charges in exchange for only five years probation. And during that time, he couldn't treat any. Female patients. But that means he's still treating male patients. How outrageous is that? Very, and you know, how much is fine was chicken feed if d bucks so had Becky been one of his unknown victims had she been raped once by her two killers. And then again in the safety of a clinic by Dr she trusted to help her and I call them her killers because they really did killer. It took nineteen years, but they killed her. It's impossible to know if she was victim. But it certainly seems like she could have been. She had discussed a lawsuit with a lawyer. But she died before it was prepared. And she also fit the profile of that doctor's typical victims attractive troubled with long dark hair and the assault that she described sounded like some of his known victims accounts of this doctors assaults soon after his conviction on sex charges. The psychiatrist left his prison counseling job, and is no longer working as a psychiatrist, but imagine what Becky had been through. And then for psychiatrist raped her too. I just can't imagine the trauma. How could you trust? Anyone again? Really don't feel you could this. This woman has been through so much in her life, and then to have this happen. Yeah. Pursuing she trusted who's supposed to help her get better. I know right. This is destroying it's horrible. So after her death, which was in nineteen ninety two. Her ex husband took cuss. Custody of their toddler who was two and he moved out of Wyoming. Jerry Jenkins died in nineteen ninety eight leaving Ronald Kennedy is the only person alive who knew what happened that night in nineteen seventy three and he is still on death row. But he isn't he blaming it all on the one who died on Jenkins for sure. But that's how you do it. You're in a partnership until you get caught. And then you point the finger at the other person. Is there any chance he'll get out? I don't think. So now he must be quite old by now this happened in seventy three so it's forty five years ago. So if he was thirty he's in his seventy s bro. Yeah. He's not gonna get out. And even if he did there are several references in that book. We read about the townspeople would take care of things if he ever did get out on parole. He probably wouldn't last very long up at a link to the book on our show notes because it was a really good book that went over the whole case very well. Written interesting book, but haunting I have a say. Some sleep with that was a tough story. Sure was the music for true crime brewery is written and produced by tristen Capelle. If you want more TC be you can go to our website tigr dot com and join team Tigris ever for access to members only episodes along with this exclusive access to our large Bank of members only episodes you'll receive a gift from us as well as our undying admiration. You can also go to patriot and become a patron of true crime brewery for the same benefits. Now in November, we covered the murders at White House, farm and other members only episodes include the case of child killer. Diane downs are OJ Simpson series. The case of Robert Fisher, just a whole bunch of them. Now, some other ways for you to show your support for true crime brewery are to follow a on Twitter at Tigra pods on Instagram tiger, repod casts and unfazed book. On facebook. You can join our true crime brewery fan discussions group and get into some conversations about past cases and other crime, topics. If you enjoy the show, please take a minute to give us a review on I tunes or wherever you listen because that helps us a lot and it helps new listeners find us. So let's move forward with feedback. Now, remember, you can send feedback in case suggestions to us in an E mail to true crime brewery at tigr dot com or just tell us in your own voice by leaving a voicemail on the Leyva voicemail link on the front page of our website tie, grabber dot com. Unto the feedback. I will do some mail. So I have three of them. Okay. What you got the first ones from Jenny Hijau? Hi, dick. My name is Jenny. I am calling you from London as you can tell from my accent on American I live over here. Now. I just finished listening to your what happened to Heidi episode and the minute that I heard she was acting as a confidential informant. I knew I had to call you and tell you about my friend, Rachel Hoffman who in two thousand eight when she was only twenty three years old. She was murdered shot to death while acting as a confidential informant in a botched drug sting in Tallahassee Florida. So what happened to she had was facing a little bit of jail time for possession of marijuana and four ecstasy tablets, the Tallahassee police department pressured her to act as a confidential informant and said, we'll think about reducing your sentence. If you do this for us. So they set up this drug by and she was to act as the buyer. So Rachel was give. In thirteen thousand dollars in cash, and she was told to buy one thousand five hundred ecstasy pills. Two ounces of cocaine and two handguns. Rachel had no experience buying cocaine buying handguns. And if you ask me, this is a very far cry from having a few ounces of pot and for ecstasy pills from from that to cook and guns. But I digress. Is she also had never had any contact with the two men who she was supposed to be meeting to make the spy. So there were two officers assigned to supervise this drug sting, and it was laid after an investigation. It was they were deemed insufficient manpower to protect her and also for him the suspects. So while she was at the by with the police a monitoring the two sucks test specs excuse me chain the location of the by she was told not to follow them to the new location. But and this is a quote from her Wikipedia page if anyone wants to look it up a murder of Rachel Hoffman technical issue. Use prevented her from actually receiving the instructions, and quote, so the police officers lost track of her because she agreed to go to this new location. She got him the car with the suspects, and they shot her to death with the gun that she was instructed to buy her family sued the Tallahassee police department for wrongful death. And if there's anything good that came out of this terrible situation. It was that we now have something called Rachel's law which requires law enforcement agencies to provide special training for officers who recruit confidential informants again, I want to reiterate she was only twenty three years old. She never had any any experience buying handguns or cocaine. She was set up to meet with complete strangers. And it's just a tragic situation. All around the name shar this happens much more than we hear about. Thank you very much. And I love your show by. Wow. This is exactly what we were talking about with Heidi. The you've kind of. Entrap a young kid her relatively young kid in who's been picked up for a fairly minor drug offence and get them to be a confidential informant. And a lot of times is no specific training or anything that's done. But this is outrageous. Isn't it? This is just oh my God. Almost over the top almost over the tap. This is so irresponsible. Awful the poor young woman while that is just a great suggestion for you to send to us Jenny. I'm amazed by that story in definitely wanna find out more about it. And I think you're right. I think it does happen more often than we hear of oh, we hear the tip of the iceberg about the real disastrous. It happen care, but there's a bunch of near disasters or near misses share. But this one is just a complete tragedy. And so we responsible by the police. It's just disgusting. It is it's an interesting case. And I think we'll look into that. And see about doing it. He. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Thank you, Jenny. All right. Then we have Alan. Hey, Jill and dick. I'm from Ferndale Washington. I've had a lot of my neighbors down south from Bellingham Paul, and I'm an electric up here. And I have everybody on the job sites. Listen to true crime brewery, and we all thought you should do a show on Kim proper from Victoria BC. That case was something else. Thank you. All right Allen, right to the point. Yes. So we're going to get right to the point and just very quickly when night around dinnertime crews K R USC, well would send an instant message to Kim Proctor. Hey, I thought you had babysitting did you finish early? So he was gutsy sixteen year old scraggly hair living in a bungalow with his mother at Happy Valley road in the town of Langford British Columbia on this evening is on so many others. Cruise was hanging out with his best friend Cameron Moffitt. But like many kids his age crews spent as much time with friends online as he didn't person. So when he wasn't texting he was playing world of warcraft or chatting over the Microsoft Network with friends so in Cruz, I am Kim to see if she was done babysitting. No response came. But he didn't expect one could see instant message was a cover crews new Kim had never. Made it to her job. She was right there in his house with him and Cam bound beaten raped in by the next morning, stuffed into his freezer, dead, only shed. Yes. Okay. So you've got some more on that. So you wanna consider covering that case? I definitely do. All right. Well, thank Saillant could suggestion. And then our last one is from Jahic who's also let you'll you'll play it. You'll hear he's offering his assistance. All right. Let's hear it. Hello Jila, dick. This is one of your attorney friend listeners located in Columbia, South Carolina. I enjoy your podcasts in particular, the death in the detailed medical legal analysis that you provide with each case. I also have a case suggestion for you. Which is a case of Wesley our dot. He was a sex offender in serial killer in the Pacific northwest in nineteen eighties nineties. I think it would be an interesting podcast for you to undertake for several reasons first the system fail when he wasn't prosecuted or arrested after multiple inappropriate contact with job. Also, his arrest in capture wasn't is an interesting story itself. Finally, he's one of the few criminals sentenced to death that actually. Took steps to move his execution date forward. I believe he was the last person hang in the state of Washington. Once again, I really enjoy your podcasts. Can't wait for the next episode canal. He bought the good work if you have any legal questions, I may be able to assist. Thanks again. Bye. Bye. Thanks janik. I think that's awesome. That we have someone who wants to assist us with our legal questions because you know, we have them or review. Thank you sounds like a good resource. Absolutely. I love that pussies from one of my favorite cities. Yeah. Bo cox. Not going to say too much about Westley Allan Dodd other than that. He was a dad apple almost from the start beginning his crime spree or sprees around age twelve or thirteen as Jahic said he had been arrested or detained numerous times for sexual misbehavior. And never did. He get convicted of anything the system really failed on pedophilia. Sounds like yes. Then when he finally was caught and sentenced he was to be executed sentenced to death, and he actually pushed for it said do it. He was hanged on January fifth nineteen ninety three. It was the first legal hanging in the United States since nineteen sixty five the last hanging in the state of Washington and ninety only one that's kinda shocked that someone was hanged in nineteen Ninety-three. That's not that long ago. No. And when we think of hanging we think of kind of medieval, or at least old west Justice. So that alone is fascinating to me a little bit. I read about Wesley died. Very interesting. So I think that that someone we're going to look at to do a case. Those are the voicemails. We've got two emails one of which has two suggestions Israel case suggestions. So the first one's for you from sandy L K, sandy writes. Hi, Jill dick avenue listener here. And I am now just listening to the main line murder. I'm very familiar with the story growing up in Montgomery County. Stephanie's brother IRA worked at a steakhouse. My family frequented back when the murder happened and was very well liked. It was so sad to see how much I read changed after his sister was killed just not as lively just reading that sentence. I'd like to add that's one thing. We've definitely learned from doing this podcast is one person might be killed. But it destroys the lives of many people. You're a ripple of family who yet remove totally. So sandy goes on. I was wondering if you ever heard about the murders of Lisa Marie mandir, UK it or night. Eighteen month old daughter. Devon this happened in nineteen ninety five in Collegeville Pennsylvania. Which is also in Montgomery County. Just a horrible story of two lives cut way too short. And then she wished us a wonderful holiday season and says cheers. Thanks, sandy. Happy holidays to you. So Caleb Fairley is an American murderer from Gulf mills Pennsylvania and in nineteen ninety-five fairly murdered. Lisa Marie Mandara who was twenty nine and her nineteen month old daughter, Devon when the two visited the college Ville, Pennsylvania children's clothing store where he worked on September tenth nineteen ninety five fairly was working alone at your kids and mine, the Collegeville children's clothing store owned by his parents now just before closing time. Lisa Marie and her daughter entered the store when fairly realized that they were the only customers present he locked the doors to the store, he then attempted. To sexually assault. Lisa marie. And when she resisted him he became enraged in strangled her to death. He also strangled the baby and after the murder he sexually assaulted Lisa. Marie body. Then went to an electric hellfire club concert that he'd been planning to attend that night. So this is really horrific to think you could go into a store with your baby. I mean, who would even think that that's a dangerous thing to do. Right. And you're in a good part of town. Yeah. Right now. Look, you're you're going to buy clothes for your baby. Wow. Horrific certainly is only thank you for that suggestion saying they will definitely look more into that. Although that's one of those ones that's going to give me nightmares. Then we have Email from Barbara from North Carolina. And she's got a couple case suggestions, okay? And I I didn't put any real discussion on them because she described him pretty nicely. Great. Thanks, barbara. So you want to take this? Sure. So the first one is Michelle young was found beaten to death in a Raleigh, North Carolina. Home on November third two thousand six Michelle was five months pregnant at the time. She also had a two and a half year old daughter who was left on harmed in the home after his first trial ended in a hung jury. Michelle's husband Jason was convicted in two thousand. Thousand twelve and is currently serving life without parole for this crime. Barbara says that Michelle was her co worker and someone she liked and respected. So she's filed this case closely. I'm aware that opinions on Jason's guilt vary based on who you talk to. I'd love to hear you cover it in here. What you think? So she also gives you a beer suggestion from Raleigh lone rider beer moon. Reuter? This is clear I p a called happy Kiei. We just heard that on the couple of movies. Didn't we all die hard? You'd be Kiei motherfucker not happy Chi. Yes. Well, those Christmas movies, especially part one in into Christmas movie lists. But that's pretty good beer. So let's think about that not just because of the beer, especially know that North Carolina though, I bet with the most murderous we've covered have been there. I think Florida's the number one Florida Carolina's right up there. He adds that southeast. The United States. You wanna watch out for now? The next one is Nancy Cooper who we've already done a podcast on this case. So is there additional information in here? I know there are widely varying opinions on breads skill. Well, she says that Nancy was wrangled in a drainage ditch. Her husband Brad was arrested for the murder in two thousand eight and convicted in two thousand eleven but in two thousand thirteen he was granted a new trial in two thousand fourteen he agreed to plead guilty to second degree murder in exchange for a sentence of twelve to fifteen years. And there are a large group of supporters who think that Brad is innocent, reduce gross. They're good morning. We did. Yep. But another interesting thing is that she suggests another North Carolina brewery in Cary, North Carolina, which is bond brothers fear. And it's one of your favorite beers says she's recommended flavor pattern sour ale, which I have not had. No, we'll look for that. To get me. Some of that. Procure even though we've done this case the beer because there are plenty of murders in North Carolina to go around. Right. Certainly are we shouldn't say it that way. Now, there's there's a good number of murders. Why is that do we know? No. I don't know I suppose we could look at any state virtually and find a good number of murders. That would be bit episodes to be that these are just famous murders or interesting murders or unusual murders. You know? Well, I mean, we've done the staircase. Which is a fascinating case that's done. The poor little girl from Australia who was killed Sarah Baker the McDonald case, right? And then we've got the Eastbourne murders. His bird. Yeah. So there are a lot of murders. There. I'm sorry. If you live there, but be careful, please. So that wraps it up for the day. This is New Year's day. So I think that time to sign off and let people celebrate the new year coming in for those of you who are awake. We went to bed. Well, we made it to ten thirty ten forty five. But then the dogs insisted we had to go to bed they were tired. But we did have a sip of champagne and welcomed in the new year just a little bit early. So see next week guys. All right. Thank you for listening. And we'll see you next time at the quiet end. Bye. Bye. Bye.
"Hello and welcome to the end of our highly questionable week with Meena kind senior writer for E._S._p._N.. The magazine what do you like on today's show Meena Jim Harbaugh the gift that keeps on giving especially in July valid buffy. What do you make of the N._F._L.'s decision to suspend Tariq? He'll what a bad look for a league that is trying to be a moral ullathorne pioneer on domestic abuse and these are the facts as we know them and some of the facts are in dispute and the N._F._l.. Says they didn't have enough facts to feel like going forward and punishing him on this that the tape might have been doctored. There was a murkiness there but here are the facts axes. We know them. He hasn't been found guilty previously in a league that does not tolerate repeat offenders of strangulating his girlfriend who was pregnant at the time then what happens is being investigated for domestic abuse case in which is threatening threatening said girlfriend and now the N._F._l.. Is telling you that with those as the established facts. Nobody disputes them. There is no punishment for the moral authority leader on domestic abuse so what the N._F._l.. Has told you told everybody because they got into these waters and now they're going to be criticized when they do anything that you can be accused and found guilty of domestic abuse by strangulation of your pregnant girlfriend and then threaten earn away the calls her a dumb b word. I think Dan Dan is right to focus on the context the history between tyreek Hill and the mother of his child here because the current case is complicated. The police dropped their investigation of tyreek and his fiancee. After their child broke his arm. They didn't have conclusive of evidence and it's not entirely surprising to me that the League didn't go where the law didn't on that issue but the threat was on tape we know their history and that surprises me because in the past the N._F._l.. has suspended players for threatening or or emotionally abusing their partners and I realized that this point we should know hunger expect the N._F._l.. To be consistent on anything but this is disappointing is that the big deal Sean mcvay told Jimmy Kimmel that Tucker Lee is feeling great. Didn't you all find it really strange that at the end of the season the Patriots had their best defensive game of the entire season shutting down a great offense that hadn't been shut down like that old season. I thought that was because what the Hell is wrong with the M._v._p.. Candidate I saw earlier this year who was dominating the League from a position that has been largely disposable. Todd Gurley could've been M._V._p.. The way he was tracking last year and then all of a sudden arthritic condition and his knee he's twenty four four years old and all the reports are all of them. He's done as a workhorse back after they've given them. A lot of money. mcvay can be optimistic if he wants to be but they're transactions this off season and the way they used him in the super bowl suggest that that's not the way it's going to be. Is it a big deal yes and no yes because as Dan alluded to todd girlies health has been murky for a while now actually before the c rule before the postseason even during the regular season there was some confusion about how healthy he was no because he was felled by C. J. Anderson person who was quite good and I don't think they're struggles during the regular season in the postseason because of Todd Gurley I think they were because of the offensive line absence of to Cooper Cup now they've got two more running backs Malcolm Brown and Darryl Henderson the rookie who are better than quite good. Good and it wouldn't surprise me if they running back by committee regardless of Todd Gurley health her take was pretty good there but it was better on the radio where she said that the rams missed last year cup more than they missed girly shocking hot. Take ooh dearly dearly. He smart businessman he got paid or the southern says contract arthritis right so messed up how shall he was shea. Jim harbaugh threw over Meyer. Shady was the word that he was supposed to say there. It sounded a bit like a curse word. There aren't many coaches. I don't think that can make news saying something something like this about Urban Meyer that seems obvious but when it's Michigan and when it's Jim Harbaugh what he's saying is look they've had some excellence around urban Meyer but wherever he goes there is controversy urban Meyer we all know is a bit of a mercenary scenario urban Meyer came on this show and admitted that while he was at Florida he felt like he was selling his soul in exchange for victories that there were compromises. He was making an exchange for the winning. That's what you get when you get urban Meyer however what you're supposed post to get when you get Jim Harbaugh at Michigan is not always loses to urban Meyer and now talking about hey but at least we run a clean program they did not get horrible to run a clean program. They got harbaugh to beat. The guy wasn't running a clean program allegedly so harbaugh said this on the Tim Kawakami show when I heard it I smiled because where is the lie right leg. I'm sure right now on the Internet there are tons of college football fans screaming Oh and four which is Harvey Record Against Urban Meyer and they're right. He is a bit of a flawed messenger sure but oh and four does not refute accuracy of what he said which is while that Urban Meyer has been very very successful on the field. He did say that off the field. He has not been successful because of what happened at Florida because it would have in Ohio state where he utterly failed to lead on the subject of domestic violence those are just simply facts regardless of who is saying them do forget what it was that made him a national name at Florida when Tim Tebow was there with a Halo Halo over there huddle that team had a murderer and it's huddled first of all and was arrested more than any team in the sport at the time. Sometimes there is a connection between how violence your men are everywhere and how good they are on the field. We'll Erin boom surround actually kind of sweet. I'm telling you baseball you get some microphones in the hands of the players all over the field and you'll have something that we all WanNa watch no matter how slow that Damn game is so we've got rookie umpire in this situation. This is just his fifth game behind home plate. Look at what happened wrecking everything here nine years old. It is lunch. It is not sweet in any way that your unpire anyone in your life as you're trying to do. Is Your job getting that close to your face and just telling you repeatedly be better. You need to be better who does that. I kinda liked it. I thought it was a win for actually everyone involved except for the race <music> obviously for the Yankees who came back from behind to win six two two for Aaron Boone not just because he threw himself in whatever Brett Gardner was doing there but also because before this game. I've never really thought of him. As a fiery passionate leader now he's responsible sponsored for one of the greatest catch phrases in managerial history and probably a lot of bootleg merchandise sales outside of Yankee Stadium. I also think it was a win for the up. Yes that must have been painful and awkward but he acquitted himself pretty. Well and I'm guessing want some respect from around around the league I mean he just stood there. In Tokyo right acquitted himself well. He just stood there. Let that do do whatever he wanted coming up next on myself stevie show unbelievably inaccurate shot at Lenny. Oh Aw Frenchie wow my son's T._v.. Show is brought to you by Liberty Mutual Insurance only pay for what you need technology truth brought to you by Geico GEICO truth teenagers can communicate entirely in emojis how why birthday party pizza slice kitten soccer ball pineapple truth. It's so easy to switch and save on car. Insurance is at GEICO DOT com. 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"Everybody from Salt Lake City. It's thank thank God. I'm atheist the PODCASTS. I'm Frank Kelvin and mood lighting from the how to heretic. I'm Uncle Doug sitting in for Dan. we'll thanks for being here. And what was your back. It's been a while it's been a long while to long. Yeah we dan go out of town. Merauke agrees I. Ah No of course not he's not Yeah but coming up on on the show today on the Later on in the show. We're going to be talking Kind of a little bit a look back on on The twenty tens is that time of year the time of the decade. It's twenty twenty now and and you know kind of thinking back to like like how what to be atheist ten years ago now it kind of feels a little different today and we're going to look at some numbers and everything so awesome. Yeah so that'll be. That'll be thing. Let's get started off with Well actually this is a a little bit of an update There was a show that we talked about a couple of weeks ago. called the first station of Christ. It looks yeah I had no idea about this. Is it completely miss this. I have now watched. Oh and And I can say that it's fun is comedy. It's a comedy there. Yeah they're having fun with the whole Jesus Sus Narrative raises comes home with his purported gay lover to sort of introduce him to The Holy Family Right Right God is kind of wandering around Is this guy has been having a fair. Oh Oh yeah. It's it's it's like it's in Bethlehem Nazereth we supposedly Nazereth. And there's all there's little jokes and the Maj. I have shown nap for his birthday. And they'll have like it's like they're in jokes with each other like you know like ooh water at the party. Jesus in here yet like yeah well. The the people the good people of Portuguese okay. portuguese-language show produced in Brazil. And the good people of Brazil have lost their Goddamn show apparently There have been two million people who have petitioned net flicks To remove the show saying that it offends defends Christians and the production offices of the group that put together the show It's a group called and It's it's in Portuguese. So Oh poor PORTA DOS DOS or back door. I think what that means and Has Been Firebombed Holy Cow. I mean is that. What a Molotov cocktails firebombs? Yeah Yeah because I didn't firebomb no kidding and So a group of Christians upset Christians Identifying itself Alf as the popular nationalist insurgency command of the large Brazilian into grist family. Okay first thing you need to in your name doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. The PEON I C L B I F yeah Yeah so they are obviously like a pro family family very conservative Pro Christian Anti Gay organization and they are very very very upset. It was anybody hurts. No A janitor there was essentially. Nobody was in the building except for the janitor and the janitor is able to put out the fire Even all right There is however a security camera footage of the four men foreman who yeah and I think they act. No Oh actually they. They took video of themselves doing it and then they posted online part of their claim of it. But they're all mass. Okay Okay and then they do the garbled voice where we claimed responsibility went so far and then whatever molotov cocktail was so weak. The janitors sprayed it with water. Kids get out of here and so yeah so I thought that was good update Let's see this is actually. I didn't know what this whole integral list thing is. apparently it has. It's all about traditional family values authoritarian politics. They claim. This is what it's about. Okay in this. This is on the letterhead it's It was formed in the nineteen thirties. to stress Christianity the and to oppress differences in society and basically while this was going on Brazil we had fascism right rising and you know in in Europe and whatnot. So it's all sort of in that same you know and it's been snapped this organization. The Pizza Seven connects dash cache. Colon has been around so so this is like this weird named group is actually. The name is similar alert to this the Brazilian integrationist front which is legit like one dates back to the thirties. Okay this group. Group is claiming a lot of the same stuff and values but they're not claiming to be part of this other thing splitters. Yeah okay that's what you want right you know right you're radical groups to fragment truly violent Kudos to net flicks for having the wherewithal to put something like that together. You know like Ted. They they knew they were going to piss off Christian. Yeah so that's kind of impressive. I'm down with that yeah awesome. Yeah well I have a little story. that just fits perfectly into this. podcast is this is from. Oh forgive me. It's the religious news service or actually I got this one from Buzzfeed Hell L. so the headline is quitting job over six. Six six was quote. A blessing says Christian worker and what it is is the story. There's actually happened back in twenty twenty twelve this guy He's an immigrant. which will talk about in a second? But he got on his paycheck. The letters the number six six six next to which is in like the the amount he got paid and then showed up on his W. Two as well so that was enough that was enough for him mark of the beast so he quit his job and this was back in two thousand twelve and buzzfeed kind of went back and visited with this guy whose life is actually got a better job he got he got more money it kind of instead. Yeah exactly so great. But he's he. He emigrated from his parents. fled the Nazis And then he lived in Poland under the Communists Okay and so. He's seems to have a pretty good idea of what true evil is in from his life. Experience Sarah Enough and the oppression of six six six on his paycheck was too much. And there's a couple of really money quotes in here. Where he? He says. It's kind of what he's not. I mean you know you're GonNa get noticed when you walk out for the six six six thing ensure Christian publications locations and people who are making fun of him a lot of notoriety back in two thousand twelve okay But he says I don't want to be a Hollywood man and this kind of shoot the spotlight so to speak. Yeah Yeah and so. He's actually got a line of books. He's right writing about the Bible that he doesn't charge money for so so. Okay yeah fairly interesting young man and again. It's out of revelation thirteen. Here's his wisdom. Let Him that Hath Understanding. Count the number of the beast for the number of a man and the number is six hundred three scoring six six. No mentioning about you know when it appears on tax documents or if it can be interrupted by a decimal right or if it's just randomly around they have to be next to each other but good for him you you know what I mean. It's like the line about pornography you know. It's the mark of the beast you know. What a lovely man good for him? Well this something. Delightful delightful Pope Francis everybody we we're we he's sees probably the least objectionable pope in a very long time. If there has to be a potent maybe more of this less of everyone else. He seems to be seems to care here about. The poor legitimately doesn't like all the the pomp and and whatnot. He's Kinda rejected. A lot of the trappings of of the Papacy. But you know. He's he's the Pope and He goes out into public and he does his little thing and he likes to get out and shake shake people's hands. He likes to reach out into the crowd of the people out of the people. Well did you see this video The pope the post is. He's he's he's out there. This is a this is what New Year's Eve He just given his New Year's Eve homily whatever And he's working the crowd and there's this video of him. Apparently he was kind of seeking out the hands of children right but then as he's turning away a woman in the crowd like she reaches out and just clip just grabs his hand. Yeah and she's holding with both her hands and she really pulls him she yet him. Yeah yeah almost lost his balance. Yeah Yeah and and quite quite like understandably he didn't like them and so he sort of pope slaps when you know he kind of. Does this little sloppy thing too. And pulls away. And as he's turning away and he look on his face he is. It's really legitimately and you know I mean he's an old man as well exactly he could have really taken a tumble. You can't Yank on an old man's arm orb like that and expect a slap was was good one but anyway people were outraged but the pope lost is his cool his temper right and so he he he ends up having to apologize. I don't know if he had to like I don't know the people were like forcing him to apologize but during I guess on Wednesday. What would that that'd been New Year's Day right He offered an apology during some Traditional New Year's remarks or something I don't know but he says many times we lose our patience. I do too and I'm sorry for yesterday's bad example. That's a completely reasonable apology. Yeah and I think Sh- she yanked him so hard it had to have hurt probably it. was you know it could be classified as an assault. Almost lay. She Ain't on him. Yeah I think we can all agree that the pope is not invaluable especially which leads to the fact that he had offered apology. But he's like you said he's an old man and this woman yanked on him and got the lightest of slaps and it was as much as he could muster though. Yeah it was. I don't know I just love the the technique warm right and that was it was everywhere on social media exploded all over social media. Yeah well and what was the general. Because I don't do social media. What was the general? Take where people like it. How how dare he both things the headlines made it sound like because the headline of this essentially says that he slapped a clinging pilgrim the pilgrims? Right how dare you someone in one way to spin it. She crossed herself right before he got to clearly was not it wasn't meant Maliciously on her part. She was desperately overwhelmed by the moment. Right but man she yanked on however how old is he. He's eighty something. Eighty gave him a hell of a Yank. Yeah so yeah a a lot of people were making fun of it. You know it at the end of the day. He's just an old man he's GonNa react like that. How should have reacted like what what what should he have done? If God bless you might yeah exactly right. I mean that's what they wanted Magid if that had been benedict though I don't think benedict would have been within one hundred feet of the people but yeah I don't know what he would have shut lightning tastic. Okay so this is kind of a local a little bit of a local flair. Oh yeah you guys often and end very well covered genital conference every every six months the Mormon Church has their semiannual general conference. Yeah and it is a snooze fest. It's hard have you recently watched the did you watch the last one. No no I voided like the play. I'll read like rundowns downs of it at work. It's so that we can talk about it but like I no longer shoes. It's such white noise when you're when you're literally watching it and trying to pay attention and then you realize ten minutes has passed and you have no idea what's been said Damn it. So last general conference the President of the Church Russell m Nelson gave a speech. Each and Mormons always look forward to the general conference. Like something big's going to happen. Yeah you guys are talked about this vitamin yeah take your vitamins. We're off to Ataman Diane. Let's go and so the Russell and Nelson last conference at the end when he wrapped it up. He said that not. It was the quote General Conference next. April will not only be memorable. It will be unforgettable. Yeah and we don't know what that means. I forgot to mention. It's two hundred anniversary of Joseph. Smith's first vision. Whichever version of that first vision is it? Is it two hundred years. Eighteen eighteen twenty shot crazy so I got they. They're going all in big. They're spending like you know like zero point one so like ten billion dollars right. So what are the chances dances that this is going to be unforgettable. But I can only gaggle and I can't wait to see what they have in mind mind to make this unforgettable conference shows Smith Hologram go please go full to buck anyway so in preparation for this a a fan. I guess that you call him. A fanatic of the Mormon church made a trailer for General Conference next year. And ooh for the upcoming. Yeah so it's the bicentennial general conference and it's it's adorable. It's it's really cute. It's too long and it's muddled and it's a mess but The epoch voice guy for the trailer is Russell. M Nelson reading quotes. Kaha Epic Voice Guy is a ninety six year old Mormon from rural Utah. It's not gonNA come off very well. It is the most and it's just interspersed. Remember all the old clips. We used to watch as young Mormons of the first division. Oh Yeah Yeah. It's all of those spliced together. Some kind of good quality and some of them are not but they always have very handsome young blonde man. Yeah Smith Yeah Yeah so anyway if you if you really WANNA laugh go to youtube and search for the trailer earlier For the general conference next year or no this year this coming out. We're in it. Yeah Yeah like we're all God everybody take start taking vitamins vitamins. Now I can't. We're like four months away. I can't wait. It's an April April. I can't wait actually excited. We only have three months to get thrill because it's the beginning at the beginning of when do we camped out outside of general conference. Say now get your tent. It's like the Star Wars Star War. That's awesome well L.. Here's an interesting story about a woman who in Texas who works works at a fast food joint chicken express kind of fried chicken joint. I don't know I don't know what either but apparently early there it's a chain and it's all over Texas and her name is Stephanie Coleman. She's twenty two years old and she's a recent convert to Islam. And so she for the very first time Can just just very recently came waltzing into work work wearing a job and one of the first things out of her managers. Mouth was take off anything that doesn't involve chicken express breasts and she admits she she knows what he's talking about But she says that she didn't react. This is she says I I just went. I went to the back and took off my jacket and my purse okay Five minutes later he called me into the office telling me that I have to take it off because it's not part of the work uniform boy so he says your job is your job. Your job is nothing to do with religion. Poor guy for some shit. That's about to come crashing down. It says. The job requires a specific uniform. The job is not a part of the uniform. You need you as a paid employee cannot wear it okay and this is all on video measure smart enough to have a phone running dumb enough to be just blathering on so apparently let's see he another video he's thirds actually citing from the chicken express employee. Handbook okay right CNN got their hands on a copy of off the handbook reference headscarves or anything like that. I'd only says that Only the chicken express hats. Visors maybe warn okay. so He'd read the handbook. He's like no. You can't wear that right right well. Company lawyer Worn Has told CNN that sending her home was mistake and that she is now facing discrimination for her decision to wear head scarf or for being Muslim The managers decision to send Ms Coleman home for wearing. The headscarf was due to a lack of training The manager was using a strict interpretation of the company policy does not allow derogations From the standard employee uniform and he unfortunately did not make or did not take religious liberty into consideration. You think shouldn't shouldn't that have been already somehow like some mention the others like there are absent. Didn't religious exemptions right this is the uniform and has this restaurant manager not been living on the planet Earth Twenty years. I just knowing I'm knowing what Hornets Nest your poke. He probably thought that it was going to be a bunch of fun. Don't you think I mean we happen to know a lot of restaurant managers complex. He had no clue it was going to blow up. I'm she walked right home and posted on twitter the ACLU materialize in her living room. And it's a miracle So you know this like there's no reason to read her tweet But she she tells the whole story in the tweet and it just blows up course. Of course yes and apparently they they were really clear with the company was like listen. You're paid for the shift that you missed. I sure please a there. They said that you know you're welcome to come back to work Eh. Your job is still here and she came back she actually went back to work. Okay and but one of the employees there Harassed her shift and she left. So I don't know I think chicken express might soon be hall. I know one thing. There's there's a job opening chicken express in Texas anybody's interested has a new owner a twenty two year old the recent Islam Law Right. That's that's that if anybody would like to to join in and comment on anything that you've had to say so far on the Shell We do so the email addresses podcast. Thank God I'm atheist Dot Com. You can also call leaves voicemail message. The telephone number is four two four six six six eight four four two You can find us on facebook. FACEBOOK DOT COM flashed. Tgi Atheist and if you if you're going to facebook you might as well also search for the TDA members only lounge Requested join closed group. It's moderated And it's it's pretty awesome so stick around Guy Luther more. Show coming up next Doug Doug Yes do you know this mark Taylor. Is this a name that you're familiar with. I'm not familiar with Mark Taylor. Okay he is. The firefighter. Firefighter Prophet who not to be confused with some of the other strange the they have they always connect their former profession to their current weird. podcast life right so he's the firefighter profit. There's like a coach. Dave no longer coach So forth and so on Anyway he He's he's a right wing conspiracy theorist Who Mixes X.'s? In a lot of religion. Oh good right so his whole thing. Of course that can go wrong. What what else you know What else would you do? Well Anyway. we got a little clip of him With just some more of his prophesying about like trump and current events. And but there's a there's a nugget in here that is part of this terrifying thing that we've been talking about on the show A lot lately. which is this? This militarized right. He references it and he talks about kind of where he thinks. They're at at the moment and I think he might know he might have a better sense of this than we so listen. I gave a prophetic warning. I know that there is a plan in place. The God has the plan. Just like with the q with you and with the president and all those. There's a plan in place but I did give a prophetic warning that there's a very strict time line that has to this all has to take place and I know that we're on that time line and it because if we act too soon certain things can happen. You know these people get off get off on a technicality. Because there's certain assets after being placed like judges all these things right the OJ has to be cleaned out if if they so you've got to soon and then you've got too long so right in between these two time markers they've got act and if they wait too long this this is what's GonNa end up happening. If we're not careful is that you will see some civil unrest among gonNA say civil war. But you'll see some civil unrest because patriots are tired of of it. They're not going to put up with it anymore. And so I I look I I. I am an outdoors. I hunted fished my entire life. I grew hunt and fish and I grew up around guns and so I I'm around the gun community. I hear the talk and so this talk is beginning to escalate like the militias type type stuff. And they're they're getting ready to take up arms and take things into their own hands if they don't see something happened so this is why I've been saying that they've got to make in. At least one high profile arrest PERP walk the son of a gun. Whoever it is I don't care who it is purple welcome in handcuffs on national television to set the stage age and to let people know yes we are very serious about justice? Justice is fallen and it would buy them a little bit more time for the rest of the process. That's nice. He seems Nice. Yeah no yeah. He's he's he's he has prophecies hears God talking and this such b. s. some people are saying You're saying yeah you're the one running this rhetoric you're the one giving life to it. Yeah and it's really scary. I know like it it. It's like all I mean he. The thing that he's right about is all they need at. This point is an excuse yes right. And he's that I mean that's it like the. I don't know that the pressure is high enough yet. But it's it's it's getting there we're going to be to actually talking about some of these these issue At the toward the on the second half of the show But yeah it's they wanted. Yeah they want this so badly. Yeah and they've they've had apocalypse on the mind Uh for a long time. And they're close. Yeah and they they they legitimately want things to go badly. Don't say that it works well and what that reference to. I'm hanging around guns so I'm assuming what he's saying is at the gun ranges. Yeah people are talking about like all right. Yeah Yeah something buddies guys down at the at the range but if perp walking you know Hillary Clinton will prevent the civil war. I go get her to find a fan. So we're just give us a PERP walk and we'll be fine calm down. We'll continue to one revolution. No come on let that. That's not going to satisfy. You know you want this thing and you will always want this. Yeah Oh my God higher. That's fun all right. We'll do voicemails and emails next week when dance back but we do need to make sure that we think think some new patrons also on Patriots We have a new faithful listener Naomi and new venerable listener. 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Look back on the two thousand ten and You know like we were talking before the show and down doing and thank God I may theorist for for ten years. We've been doing it for about eight. But and that's when I obviously really started paying closer closer attention to things that were going on and I just remember it was like we felt. This need to sort of shout out into the void. Sure and try to connect with with other atheists. We knew there was there was Community out there we knew the movement movement was growing but this was still the era of the four horsemen right where it was also the era the angry atheist. Yup The new atheists recalled. Yeah exactly and and and and part of our thing was we were like we just want to go on and be happy guys and just you know just take a different stab atheism but it still did feel feel like we were in the vast minority right in this country and and the numbers Sir. Coming in for where we're at now As as we're we're we're starting a new decade and I thought it would be interesting. Talk about you know how how easy it is for us to continue looking at the the Christian this radical right Christian boogeyman mhm right and feel really scared about. Our place are standing. Because I mean it is trump's America Yup right right but at the same time the numbers are just like crazy encourage. Yeah right yeah and so I thought we could just start in particular with this The study the this look at some numbers that are coming from. I think it was It was I'm looking at the wrong. One NBC yeah. Yeah so it's actually receive Clegg's what an executive interesting stuff in it but yeah no this. NBC Article has some really interesting some numbers right there talking about sort of at the beginning of the decade There the percentage of white Christians in the country and the general population nation was fifty three percent. And it's dropped down to forty two percent so we went from them them. I'm still being the majority of this country to now being A decided minority right. And I mean it's one of those things where it's a minority majority or majority minority right where there's still the largest grew right. But they're not but they're not actually over that fifty it's like the majority versus plurality thing that I've never been able to wrap my head around something like that. Yeah I haven't wrapped my head around that I okay but nonetheless but some of the more shocking things are that the White Evangelical Protestants. What's that has dropped down to fifteen percent while from the twenty one percent that they were just ten years ago which means that they are tied now with mainline? Protestants was ours. Their makeup of of this country does amaze an also also. What's crazy is that? It's the White Chris. White Christianity is. What's failing right right? The other religious groups in the country are or staying pretty solid. Their numbers really aren't moving around that much but white Christianity not only has it fallen percentage wise it has actually fallen in hard numbers right. Yeah and so. They're actually dying quicker than they can make new ones and and that's fantastic wonderful wonderful and it's where you know you're absolutely right the new atheists and the the four horsemen. It felt good at the time for us because we felt that we were just coming out of the Bush years beginning of the two thousand. Ten's yeah and Obama was a hopeful thing but we had just been through an avowedly evangelical Christian administration the goddess the Iraq war and Katrina and Abbott Ghraib. Yeah they were very dark days. Ace Yeah and it didn't seem like things are trending in our in our direction. Yeah you know and so it's been it's been an interesting decade to see these numbers now. Yeah well I I never appreciated. The Christianity is ability to be so off putting to their children. Right right. That's where that's the drop off. It's the young people. There was another number in here where basically Christian conservatives how. I'm going to have to find the number. So it's Americans. Under the age of thirty other Americans Americans under the age of thirty only eighteen percent identify as conservative and seventy five percent support. same sex marriage that is that's just an indicator of where their mindset is. Yeah and so it's really I mean gay. Marriage in particular was one of the culture war like the great issue the ultra war and it just felt like the the the Christians were never going to. They thought they really had a winner in there. They did in two thousand and four. Yeah it was a massively winning for them and they just kept beating that drum. You know they had no idea how alienating alienating that was going to become and now they can't back off on their opposition and they're not going to know and and their kids are just the done with that. Yeah it just. It doesn't animate them in droves amazing some other interesting numbers. The median age of White Christians. is is fifty five years old Which is seven years older? The than the general population at forty eight years old and seventeen years older than religiously unaffiliated American while which is thirty eight years old. So I mean there's this it is a generational divide and gap that's happening but it's also one that seems like it's just GonNa fix itself right like give it enough time and they're all going to die. I yes absolutely. I mean T- Ten more years Twenty fifteen twenty years. These guys are going to be so completely irrelevant right and so completely disconnected and yeah the demographic bomb that is headed towards them is his ruinous. Yeah but the the scary part and I don't want to put a Downer on it but they're not gone yet and trump didn't win the popular vote that's true you know what I mean like they. They are disproportionately represented in state houses and our state for example. Yeah they're going to go away eventually right but there's nothing nothing more dangerous than a wounded animal. We've got a wounded animal for another decade or two until it finally kicks the bucket. Yeah did you. Did you see that that thing. That came out in the tribune this week The numbers about Utah's shifting demographics and the fact that utahns for the first time in history three are no longer making enough babies to sustain the population. Who upon no kidding? We're under the point of we're at a two two point zero one percent birth rate and you have to be two point one percent to just keep your population so we're shrinking by. Will the the native population shrink and rights right right. which is the name of the Mormon American population that native population is is the Mormon population? People are moving here. I don't think I didn't read the Article I would venture to guess that. It's it's all the tech that's coming into. Yeah washing out the state's growing by leaps and bounds population wise the native the indigenous snow. Yeah no the original no. That's not it either. No shoot no but yeah this. This dominant force in the state as the tides have shifted. The they're young people. Just they're having they're having kids later just like everybody and they're just not as interested in having these massive families in the it was like twenty thirty thirty years ago. Utah had like a four point five or four point six percent birth rate only to the state was growing allow but only because Mormons were just having so many kids job but this new generation of Mormons that are now entering into marriage as we speak there the numbers on their membership in the Mormon Church cratering all these other. Yeah and you're right they don't want to be in the church or they don't WanNa have ten kids right so yeah good. I'm happy about that. Yeah but the problem. Our legislature is still ninety percent Mormon. Because isn't it infuriates infuriating. You're eating yeah we have to get some people running for. It's so it's so bad but we're pretty gerrymandered as well and it is a funny thing There seems to be like the Democrats who are getting elected. I don't know if you've noticed they were in in these really tight. You know races where the Democrat happens to win in this state They're always more Democrats. I noticed that right Ben mcadoo yes. That's true right. Suzanne Harrison is the name that POPs to mind. She's the one who got Lavar Christianson out. Yeah Okay this just got really Utah. Everybody uh-huh but really they're still even them right. These people who would generally side with the left Right on most issues They're still mormons. Yeah and that's really. It seemed for whatever reason it still seen as like the way to to to get into office. I mean even the DEM's when yeah tight race they run they run a mormon. I just think you if you if in in this state unfortunately if you're not a Mormon you pretty much guaranteed to know win. I mean there's only so many Jim Tobacco's exactly thank God local humor But anyway but we promised also some scary stuff In this discussion. Because this is the death throes I agree We have these groups like we. Just listen to the Mark Taylor clip Where you're the these these patriots and these Militias right it's probably better word That are there out there. And they're training they currently legitimately training There's this match shave fellow Who is a member? Currently as as as as as far as I know he's still a member of the Washington state legislature He's was at one point He was take care of The Republican caucus in their state legislature But he he he He admitted that he had written a manifesto on the biblical basis for war. We've we've talked about on the show before And that he's the training. These young men in the art of combat like hand to hand combat. Close quarters combat Sh she's like short reign lake and like full-on militia And he's also this fellow who has been calling for the fifty first state date in They WANNA take eastern Washington and Divided off and create a Christian. State Gra Iran. Because you know garnered enough of though. Have you been to eastern Washington now so Portland and and you know that that side of Washington is is his Portland Seattle Seattle is fantastic. It's wonderful but you go over in the east side and it is. I wouldn't go there with an Obama Llama sticker or a you know on my car real. Yeah it's but then again there's parts of our lovely state where I wouldn't do that. Oh I don't I don't know but anyway. So but he's he's getting in more and more and more trouble apparently the house of Representatives. It was like they called on the FBI to to to dig again And he they alleged that he is a a leader in the Patriot movement. The planned engaged in and promoted a total of three armed conflicts violence against the United States government in three states outside of the state of Washington over a three year period. He was Heavily involved in the in Bundy crap back in two thousand sixteen where they occupied Some Federal Land Bird Refuge greasing writes it why it was for some reason. That's the building chose to target because it was a it was a federal government building. Technically sounds great anyway. He created a detailed military style plan for that occupation it was called occupation cold reality. And he had a code. Name Vera the bellator. The it just feels like a wrestler. Verron Belet I think has like true warrior maybe in Latin or something like that I dunno okay number but he yeah so he's been involved in all these things so he has now been suspended from. I'm the House Republican Caucus this is where the Republicans step in and they're like okay. Okay Y- Y. We're going to believe this armed. Insurrection are okay. How dare there you sir? But still I mean these these guys are out there right And this article talks about how You know that there's these sort of these. How many times does it take Tucker? Carlson right informing viewers that democrats are plotting a coup. Yeah Yeah right to get them all worked up. What fucking coup right right? I wish I wish we were that. There are no undemocratic militias there. No Oh my God The Laura Ingram Right Talking about immigrants that are turning formerly Republican states into Petri dishes of radical left-wing ideal. That's Nice Like these people just like you know the firemen profit on obviously him on a much. How smaller scale? But they're winding these guys up. Yep and the they're not gonNA they're not GonNa go quietly the the these numbers show. They are generation. We're going to lose this battle. Yeah so you know if they're if they feel persecuted and put upon now right imagine how they're going to act when they are truly in the minority losing elections all over the country. You know gay marriage is not going away right etc.. So they're arming and practicing. That's good yeah no no yeah and you know you know young men Dan who who these you know. They've got price social problems. Yes exactly right. And they cells called young. Yeah they prey upon that they recruit them they recruit these. Are the this recruit them. This is what Al Qaeda and yes isis are doing. Yeah absolutely disaffected fact. Young men almost always end. Yeah and they're easy to prey upon people like shooting guns so mm-hmm we go much fun but one of his group so and here's just one more fun detail. You you know the the whole whole impeachment thing will trump you know he had a tweet back in September these where he said that if Democrats were successful in removing him from office it will cause civil war like fracture right and so This Matt Shea Fellow. One of his one of his organizations called It's called the oath keepers. They'll go of course they re he tweeted and they said this is the truth. We are on the verge of hot civil war like in eighteen fifty nine. That's that's where we are great so I mean I don't WanNa scare anyone in the. What's what's the response? What can we do? I mean I think we just keep doing what we have been doing honest like we just keep we. I mean what what are we to do right. Yeah no I I think we just we keep letting the the the Christianity destroy itself. Yeah right and truly like even the evangelical being so in bed with trump. I agree it is tarnished them to no. It's going to do so. How much damage and the W- because he will WANNA go away one way or another he's GonNa lose he's GonNa he's GonNa Croak? Where are they going to be at that point? What what have they got left? Mike Pence since I mean he he doesn't speak to the you know the broader trump supporter. No they they love his chest thumping racism and Misogyny Mike Pence doesn't have that he's he's to test you might believe it but uh-huh indeed Well all right well. That was a fun way to end the show. You know that's what we're here for Thank God I can't always be happy all right guys. Well we sure do appreciate you And thank you for tuning in if you'd like to join the conversation and tell us what you're afraid of You can do so please. Emails podcast think automate the IST DOT com. 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Steelers Stat Geek: Putting the Week 1 game vs. the Patriots in proper perspective
"Pittsburgh steeler fans welcome back to another episode of steeler or stat geek. This is behind the steve kerr and deputy editor. Dave scofield coming to you again for another episode where we can talk about some numbers of what was and what is to come boy. I love it. I love it. We're it's game week. It's game week. It's game week. It's been a long time. I mean the preseason it was great to get back to where we actually talked about real football ball and talked about everything with the steelers but now here we go and we're here. It's game week. It's game week and you gotta love it. You gotta love it so i see that we got some people coming in here on the live chat already going to welcome you in. I'm going to start off the show by doing what we normally do and talk about the week that just occurred. I know there was a game last thursday a pretty much meaningless fourth worth preseason game which i mean it might have helped solidify the roster a little bit more but bottom line is let's. Let's talk about the roster because that's what we ended up talking about last week. Anyway was the numbers dealing with the roster and how many roster spots there actually were available and i'll tell you this the biggest number i'm taking it away from last weekend and the roster is going to be ten doc ten linebackers in all five outside linebackers five inside linebackers. That's the most linebackers at the steelers taken in for quite some time. I wish i could tell you exactly how long but i wanted to look at numbers coming into this week rather than try to figure that out but i know for the most part they had been keeping nine either five and four four and five last year where it was even down to eight because they were three for the outside linebackers so i technically carried four outside linebackers with their very first fifty three man roster because they needed that day to get ola dehnieh onto die are designated return then once they did that they brought back a safety and they went with the three they will with the three outside god linebackers so for a long time until he came off with the i. r. and then even when he did come off the i. r. They only dressed him one game so they went with three so to go with five. That's a pretty big deal. That's a pretty big deal that they're going with that many that that goes to show you that they impressed that they impressed not only that it's who the five were that because they carried five on the roster they you did not carry an outside linebacker on the practice squad which means sixth round draft pick sutton smith not only did he not make the roster he did not make the practice squad so some people felt that they might not carry any linebackers practice squad. I thought they would carry splaine and smith. They did not carry smith but they did. They did carry explain so that was a shocking number that they carry that many wide rece wide receivers that many linebackers giveaway my next answer because in order to gain something somewhere or you have to lose it somewhere else and that other place that they lost it was with the wide receivers they decided to only go with five on the active roster which i found a little bit surprising because frankly i expected the andre johnson to not get a helmet early in the season. I know they did with juju a couple of years ago but with james washington there were some games where he was not active martavis. Davis bryant was not active the i. I'm pretty sure at least four might have been five. I'm pretty sure it was for the first four games of his career. I i remember being at a game where he was not active yet that was against pressure that was against tampa and watching him on the sideline and jogging talking right right in front of us in the end zone as you went around the field so that that's what i find kind of surprising so i'm pretty pretty sure that that means they're going to have all of their wide receivers active on game day because they like to have five because they do want to have the possibility of going with five. I wide receivers now. I know they can run a five wide set by not using wide receivers. They could use vance mcdonald but split him out wide. They could use some even used rosie nix in that in that situation but they have gone with five pure receivers on the field old just receivers if i do believe right they've even gone with five receivers in order to get the proper defense on the field that they wanted to go against and actually put ryan switzer backfield handed him the ball. I might be off at that might not have been out of five receiver set but that's something that they they would do in order to go up against instance defense. They want so that means. You're probably gonna see all these receivers active and that is why would they announced the practice squad that johnny holton added that practice squad later on because they had that empty spot. That's a big deal because basically they didn't announce anything about his contract tracked. I wonder if they possibly signed him for more than the the practice squad minimum because he's an essence going to be what would be their sixth wide receiver that <hes> that would then be an active on game days but he's only going to be on the practice squad so but that's basically stashed right now for whenever they would need to but in order bring them up there have to be a roster move would not be surprised if they bring up a re if they would bring up a receiver at some point if they feel that one of these people that they kept isn't worth keeping so i know we liked <hes> ulysses gilbert. I know we liked to czar skipper but in order for those guys to stick with the roster. They're going to have to continue to do it every day. In practice and any opportunity they can get you and remember that there's a good chance that they will be inactive aw come game day at least one of those guys so i'm gonna open up now to the live chat. If anyone has anything that they would like to talk about i know it's i. I was dealing specifically with numbers but if there's anything <hes> since brought up the steelers roster if there's anything you'd like to throw out there <hes> or if you're kind of like me. You're really excited about getting into next week. We'll we'll look back. I know lance williams. You're jumping in here and you are stealing what we're going to talk about. I told you gotta go to mention that since you through that to me i even even had your text message from earlier today right up here and ready to go <hes> so so here we go. Let's see what we got. Lots of people say hello. I'm just trying to get caught up in the live chat now because i also. I don't like to skip stuff. Hey i've got my even. You've got my nephew kyle. Give me a shout out here. <hes> in the in the live chat that's great <hes> sub kyle <hes> enjoy the game sunday night. Don't stay up too late. Here's a good question. I'm this is one sense. We were talking about the roster. I'm gonna feel this question now rather than look at anything at the end because <hes> and this is this is a good one here and it says from michael. Why do you think we didn't do anything about the tight end situation and the answer is that's not entirely true. The steelers did attempt to do something about the tight end situation there. There is an article on behind the steel curtain that was that was written. I'm pretty sure it was published yesterday because it was it a lot of traffic and it was about the steelers had put in a waiver claim for the one tight end and i suddenly someone helped me out the live chat. I can't remember his name out of arizona. It was hyphenated. I remember over that but instead he was picked up by cleveland so two steelers did did try to make a claim i would. I still wouldn't be surprised if they make a move but it could even be after this week. They would not be surprised if they only have two tight ends active on game day. If they don't make a move i do believe that they do make that move that zach gentry would then be be moved down to the practice squad. Here's another thing to think about the steelers could be waiting on a tight end move for the end of the week because when they released gentry for someone to put away reclaiming they'd have to claim him late in the week which that means that would completely change the roster and chances are teams teams would be more likely to do it this past weekend then they would be three or four days right in front of a game so chances his are if if they do make it then make it easier for january to be moved to the practice squad and most likely kevin rader would then be released from there but we'll see what would happen. There was another question that was here by steeler fan seventy four. If switzer is not impactful will we'll deontay johnson play a bigger role and the question is what people mean by impactful. I have people that love ryan switzer that i see and people that eight warren switzer and say he can't do anything <hes> he's. He's pretty good catch. A short passes that they get to him. He's pretty good at getting a few tough yards when you only need a few tough yards but i know the big question has to probably come from the depth chart that was released today. Where ryan ryan switzer was named the the first punt returner and kick returner and what was surprising is james washington was the backup kick returner honor and then already burns and the punt returner. I'm trying to remember if it was deontay johnson. That was the next one or not. I can't remember maybe someone can with that but i think what it is. The andre johnson is going to have a bigger role as the season goes on if he's proves that he's ready he's n._f._l. Ready this is tough. This is his tougher rookies to come in right off the bat and and come in and impact the game i mean even juju was active and he was a rookie sensation and he still wasn't week one wasn't that that that that pigafetta impact that when i can't remember his exact stats but he didn't really start to shine until a couple of weeks of the season. Here's another another question. Do you feel that twos are skipper. Sorry this is n. v._r. and d._r. That's the who asked this one <hes>. Do you feel that <hes> tasers skipper will be used extensively in week one against the patriots or limited snaps. I will be honest with you. I'm not sure he's going to get a helmet because the reports were that aladdin e._a. Was back to practice on monday now. We can't find any injury information because the steelers don't have to give any until tomorrow uh-huh afternoon. They have to give their injury report coach tomlin his press conference today gave. Nothing said he didn't know anything which is really true because he was at practice. Yesterday with guys is an dude in practice and knew who did but i'll be honest with you. They don't need to give that team up north anymore information than what they need right now so they'll wait until they have to say something <hes> so i think it's going to be between twos are skipper and ola of who will get a helmet on game day. I don't think they have enough spots for both of them. So that's how it's going to come out to it. So would he be used extensively now. He'd be used on special teams. I'd i'd i'd be surprised if whichever one of those guys would get a helmet if they saw more than sixty snaps that's that's. That's just what i mean in israel in the season they might more rotation but with that's assuming a healthy anthony tikolo. If tikolo was still injured then both of those guys guys could be getting helmets and contributing big time so really it's gonna come down to some injuries <hes> we'll have more on that as the week goes on on our various podcasts august's because it'll start to shape up a little bit more as we get our first injury reports so i i gotta figure this one out there. <hes> christopher williams says his wife bought him surprised surprised tickets for week one in foxborough holy cow. Your wife probably spent a lot of money good for you. <hes> accre this question. What do you think will will. What do you think will be to a st okay. I it didn't quite get that right. We're going to talk about what it's gonna. Take for steeler win on sunday. We'll get to that here a little bit so so some of the people here just throwing out some comments of various things that we've been talking about. I'm trying to get to the questions. Some people are concerned about grumblers the number two. I understand so here we go. It says who's going to be a punt returner week one week sixteen probably week seventies which really made me game sixteen <hes>. It's going to be ryan switzer to start and unless there's an injury. I think it'll be ryan's which would end he. He takes care of the ball back there he does. He doesn't put it on the ground. That's the biggest thing they want. I know a lot of people will talk about the free kick that happened and last year and as much as i love him and he was just named special teams captain what confused ryan switzerland that was when rosie next called for fair catch switzer was not sure if he could catch it with another player calling for a fair catch the whole situation with free kicks people. Don't remember her. I know the professionals their job but you take a play that that happens probably once every. I mean think it's only happens. The safety and the steelers are one of the teams that actually have had a couple of each year so you're talking about that play happening maybe once at most twice in a season and then something unusual happening during that unusual play and it just kinda can be confusing with that so so that yeah jordan you said that seventeen of the very next one. I see it now so i kinda. I see some more stuff hear people talking about questions questions. If i didn't get to your questions it's bring them back up when we go into the next stuff because i think i will bring up one other thing that that i just saw and that is <hes> cam. Kelly possibly starting from kyle smith asked the question about that. I i really hope that sean davis is available. I think in kelly's great i think he is. I think he's really shown themselves that. He's an n._f._l. Caliber safety i would much rather for him not start and be sub package guy on his very first n._f._l. Regular season game going up against tom brady. Which was some of the kyle mentioned here the question russian so go from a after playing against tom brady it would be great. He's going to get on the field because there's package defense. It would be great if he you didn't have to play every single snap. I'd rather i'd rather see him. Come along and maybe then. Maybe someone gets injured later on the season. I'd feel much better about him going eh but it's very first game. I'd really prefer if he didn't have to be out there on every single play just no. I'm going to go ahead and and and skip onto what's going on this week because this week. I should take the question off here so it's not too distracting so this this week coming up this. There was a couple of different angles that i could see i could take here. I was gonna go to look at how the steelers do based on their pre season record but i really want to get more. I'm i'm in regular season now what i was in preseason modell's again. That's a great thing to talk about now that i'm in regular season modem like let's get to the regular season now. There was some some of this got circulated today on twitter from some very steelers sites and i think it all started from one of them. That actually shared article that i that i wrote where i mentioned it. I didn't see it before. I put it out there. But then i saw some other people throw it out there and that is this. The steelers are going up going up to new england on sunday night. The new england patriots currently have the longest home winning streak of any team in the n._f._l. And that's the number of that. I'm going to focus on this week and that number his sixteen including the playoffs the steelers steelers sorry the patriots have won sixteen straight at home games. The last time that they lost was to the carolina panthers and now all of a sudden. I can't figure out where i wrote it down but i'm pretty sure it was in. It was early on in two thousand seventeen. Their second to last loss was week kwan in two thousand seventeen against kansas city so i'm focusing on that number and you're like well gee that doesn't give me a lot of hope but it does it does because in the words of lance williams that he wrote earlier on in the live chat if it was still there that would have brought it up but instead. I'm gonna say it right here. He says do historical stats matter and the answer is sometime sometime. I still think the historical stat matters of ben rothlisberger only winning anyone game on the west coast because that is just going to keep happening. You know not gonna keep happening but could lead to people were like how could they lose moved to oklahoma. They lose the oakland. Pittsburgh hasn't wanted to ben rothlisberger. Mike tomlin combined of never one in so these are stats that just kind what is sometimes. I don't lancers right. They don't mean anything going into the game but sometimes they can also help. You understand some things that are going on after the game but i brought up that that sixteen game win streak came in that sixteen game win streak. I need you all stick with me with this. It's all doom and gloom. I'm not going with lance williams. Sorry lance you brought it up. I gotta go with it. I'm not gonna do that but i am go to bring up the the the patriots have won sixteen straight home games at some of these numbers appear in those sixteen games. One of those games was a win by three points and that that was last year and we six and that crazy game against kansas city where they kicked a field goal as time expired. They won the game forty three to forty. They had one game in there that they won by four points. That was the a._f._c. championship game against the jacksonville jaguars in two thousand seventeen and that was the game where jacksonville did what to many people do against the patriots and again they get a lead and then they play scared the entire second-half until they lose the football is finally back and nothing adds to the excitement of watching that first game like having shot at a million dollars draft kings the leader meter and one day fantasy football is celebrating the start of the season with an extra special week one contest new users can sign up today and get a free shot at the one million leeann dollar grand prize just by using code espy nation. Here's what you do download the draftkings app use that code s._p. Nation draft six players. Here's from the opening thursday night showdown between chicago and green bay and then draft king single game showdown contests with two and a half million dollars in total prizes is is already a draftkings user. 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I'm much what i said but it was against houston <hes> at at foxboro borough so that that was the only games that were that were seven points or less there was a game back in two thousand seventeen against the chargers that was eight point so technically take a one score game but other than that they won these games handley and this comes in another sixteen 'cause if you rounded up is going to be sixteen their average margin victory over the sixteen game win. Streak is fifteen point seven points which you can round up to sixteen points save one sixteen in a row and they've and they're scoring on average sixteen points more than their opponents gather also scoring over thirty thirty one points a game. It's thirty one point. Six k other lowest point total during this streak was twenty one against the chargers that was at eight point game at twenty one thirteen game that was week eight of two thousand seventeen this this week the next closest streak in the n._f._l. Is the colts have a six game home winning streak so it's ten games more than anybody else. The steelers are currently on a two game winning streak one of which was against the new england patriots <unk> because you have to remember the last time the patriots lost the game. They was against the pittsburgh steelers last year a game that i was in the stands to watch also the patriots were the only team that went undefeated last year home. They're the only team in the n._f._l. That went undefeated at home and they're the only team since two thousand that have that has ever gone back toback seasons of being undefeated at home in this during the sixteen game winning streak and actually you can even go back to all of their games in the last two years ears at home including playoffs they have been they've been favored. Okay so almost done reciting some of these numbers and you're like why are are you telling us all these things. Tom brady his career thirteen and three for week one games. He is nine and one at home in week. One which i think is pretty sad that the patriots have only had six six six six exist where tom brady has been the starter in week one that we're on the road where the steelers have opened up on the road but it's now five straight years. I think it's the long i think they have the longest streak of opening on the road and <hes> apparently if you look at the major league baseball scheduled for next year chances are they're gonna in opening the road next year as well because they scheduled pirates at home opening weekend and the n._f._l. Last they're playing that's thursday night game came after they're after the after a super bowl win. I have a check that to see if there's a power game that night that night or not so that's some numbers and you're like why i in the world. Do you bring up all these terrible numbers about how great the patriots are well. Here's the thing first of all lands right one historical. The stats don't matter not now not week one of a new season. You've got a different team in the patriots. They don't have gronkowski. Things are a little bit different for them. Things are better for the steelers. The steelers have faster defense. That's one two i wanted to as the title of this episode says wanted to put some perspective into this game and what i mean by that is this. The perspective of this game is how important it's going to be an how big of the deal it's going to be on the steelers walkout a fox with win if the steelers can pull off the win in this game. It's a a big deal jeff hartmann. I talked about something before he did his letter from the editor this past sunday and we were kind of surprised some of the reaction and it was it was the season is not lost. Everything is not not on fire did a win in week one. It's week one. It's one game. It's one loss. Steelers must win this game. This season is over. The issuer must win this game. I had to chime in at one point to to say hey slow down if the matter is it the steelers are not going sixteen hours. They don't win sunday. That's the only early thing a loss that's now. I even know a bad loss. I give like if it's a large margin of victory tree if they just don't look together at they just look solid that's true i mean you can take that from the performance but statistically it's a loss. It doesn't matter if they lose about one. It doesn't matter if they lose by thirty five. It'll be a loss and they have fifty more games and they can win. Fifteen games doesn't mean and if they will put they can this game out of all a game just dealers have this season at this. Moment are the biggest underdog of any game if you you were look this dealer schedule the gately to win. Is this game sunday going into foxborough the abdulle drop the banner for the super bowl. Champ beans all that stuff and prime time. This is the one that they're that they're. They're the largest underdog augmenting game. They're not supposed to win but isn't it going to be much sweeter when they do now. I'm not guaranteeing a win at all. All i'm just saying i'm not counting the steelers out if you if you read my article i put out earlier today about the <hes> about the the betting odds for the steelers right now you know when when you do it you're usually pick it against the spread the spread right now five and a half points but if you picked the steelers straight up right now the odds you're getting are eleven to five straight up so i put it in article that if you place a twenty dollar bet on this with the spread just just bet the money line you would you would be eligible for a forty four dollars payout on top of the twenty dollars that you invested vested so that would be twenty dollars in sixty four dollars out. That's how much of an underdog they are. If you bet the patriots twenty dollars you'd get of eight dollars. That's it you get. Your twenty bucks back plus another eight. That's the align. It's going in vegas. I mean to me. I'm all sounds like a great time to bet on the steelers so i'm i'm once again. I'm going to be able to try to catch up and see what you are doing. You're probably gonna give some thoughts about all these these home numbers that i just threw out there. There's also a narrative. Is this going around about well. The patriots starts to i gave you the stats for tom brady. I mean he's nine and one at home in week. One that does not indicate a slow start. You ooh look sharp renting us. You guys are right but remember you got to test. You got statistics but there's really only once and so you got to compare those so i've got i'm jumping into the into the live chat now throat any numbers. They wanna say about the game. I saw a couple that they're gonna come up. I didn't mention earlier when i should have. If you wanna make sure your questions asked your number is stated. Your comment is out there. There is the super chat feature that you can use you do that by typing in your comment. You hit the little dollar sign down there. That's that's where the where the combat is and you can donate any amount of money you want to show you do not need to use this feature but it is available. I know there's a lot of stuff going on in the live chat right now so i'm not going to be able to get to every tay thing but if you do that you are bumped. I'm guaranteed to you. Look at your your comment so here we go. We're gonna jump into the live chat and see what people so people talking about. Rockets retired some boy. We're kinda getting off on a different for tangent there with even talk about here's an numbers question here we go okay. He says holloway allie personal fouls. Will we get hit for for touching princess tom or how many third alongs to the past convert pia pass interference or personal foul. This is another one of those conspiracy theories that people have out there. I've got to start keeping my own stats on some things with with people like that. Teams get bailed out with a penalty or something in in a bad situation and especially when it comes to competitive balance. Have you ever noticed there's there's a few things that i've that i've noticed jazz and coaches challenges or just booth reviews not even a challenge. Have you ever noticed noticed that more often than not if it is a close call that call favor of the the that edition of the game in other words to keep the game more competitive that those borderline calls go uh-huh towards the teams to keep it more competitive if a team is down by ten points and there's eight million napalm us ably fumbled the ball all but it's borderline of it's gonna be a fumble or not guess what they're probably going to call it not a fumble because they wanna let that team have a chance to get within one score to have a nice close game the other statistic piston that i would like to look at it. If you want to talk about conspiracy wise is the number of football sunday night at the number of kickoffs when when the ball is king and the turner decides to run it out not if it's kicked short of the end zone but if it's kicked into the end zone with the person could take the but instead to choose to run it out how many <unk> times there is a penalty called on the return team the n._f._l. Doesn't want kick returns. They don't unwanted. It's too dangerous for the play so almost every time. The ball was kicked into the end zone. You're going to see a penalty. You're gonna see a hold. You're gonna see a walk in the back so i'm like that. I'd say i'd say i probably more than half the time a lot more than than ones that are kick short of the goal line because they wanted discouraged teams from returning the ball when nicotinamide throughout my couple of conspiracy theories out there <hes> here we go mark four saxon brady you that's not enough. Let's go for six. Excuse me here. We go more stuff <music>. I'm much of his stats right where throws out there about today's eight three against men so i'm not sure if that's correct but that that wouldn't i mean steelers have won the last one program that was at home because if he was saying it must win this game. Yes that is true. Steelers must win this game with the season's not over. It's not a must-win game must win game is it's hard to have must win games in week one okay here we go from. I am anything can happen. Let's not over-analyzed allies. That's the point. I was making these great doing when there's a week one is gonna show you. That's a big win. The steelers the show up to play if they come out and win. This game came <hes> here we go <hes> randy's says i think we have an advantage. Our d. line versus the patch line i. I think we have an advantage anything that comes to the line. I think our offensive line is great. I think our defensive line is great. They've just gotta show up and play. We can't have on defense paralysis through analysis sorry paralysis by analysis. Gotta get right to correct word in other words. Don't sit back there and over thinking what breeze going to do and not react okay. Let's just let's just go after them and the key is when when it said about helped our d. line that's where we gotta get our pressure. We've gotta get the pressure on brady from right up the middle. We need hargrave. We need to it. We need hayward. We need these. These guys coming right up through the middle what brady that's what he struggles with was when a pressure comes from the middle okay so awesome very interesting stuff here. Lots of people has lots to say about going on. What's going on with this with the game. Here's here's a question. It was a super chad question. I got to see if i can find it because it's a lot harder to find these from. Why is this not there. It is is the pet center out with blood clots. They wouldn't know the answer answer to that one. I'm not sure about albacore doesn't come out tomorrow. I you know that the patriots did trade in the buffalo bills and for some reason even though i typed to uh his name right now but he used to be the center for the bengals see started every game for the bengals their center. He's at the bills last year until he until he got injured and then he was <hes> this year he just he was with the bills again. He got traded to the patriots so i don't know if they need him to play or or if he's coming into backup so say someone kyle. Smith said he said yes. It's eight and three of love of radio offals burger it should be as a there's gonna love to hear jesse james khattab ball. We all know that lance lance. You asked me this text message today. So of course i gotta bring it up and we'll give you the same answer how well well we'll steelers. Play the run while in defensive subs meaning if they're a nickel or even their dollar that all comes down to mark bearing devin bush whoever's on the field because it's it's that linebacker position that guy because the reason i'm saying it's not visually because he's going to be a game. That's williams is the big run stopper all right. Now that will cheer cheer eljay fort l. J. was a great coverage linebacker but are they put him in there. As the coverage linebacker he struggled against the run so it two two players brand new to the steelers though we've seen a little bit from but until we get the regular season will really answer does mark barrier an and evan bush play the run in some package chevy one does it better is the one that's going to see the majority of the playing time something that that is dead for a long time throughout the preseason <hes> especially in the steelers preview with jeff hartmann and brian anthony davis is is that i didn't feel the devin bush would be the starter week one. I didn't think it mattered because it didn't matter if he started it only mattered if he he played and when the when the depth shirt came out today devin bush was not listed as the starter it was mark barron and williams. I don't don't think that's a big deal because he's gonna play but it's kind of exactly what i thought they're not going to calm a starter. Not gonna put up the pressure of the starter on him. That's what so here we go. Here was another one <hes> kevin chen five sacks and three or four fumbles. If it's one less acts that's what i said but with the at three or four fumbles. I'll take it especially if they recover. Excuse me at least two of them so now. Let's keep going here <hes> when you start losing your hair. There's no magical cure but there is a way to stop hair loss from happening in the first i blaze. It's called keeps into treatment. That's proven up to ninety percent effective at reducing in stopping further hair loss. You don't have to go to the doctor's office or stand in line at the pharmacy for for prescription. You'll visit a doctor online and they'll send a medication right to unit discreet package with keep starting at just ten dollars a month. You don't have to go broke to avoid going bald bolt. 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I kind of knew what was going on on there so i haven't been paying as much attention around the league. I think there's a couple of running backs that didn't it won't play. They didn't sign that's somewhat sarcasm because i think everyone knows about that but yeah i haven't even been following this kind of stuff so some people a lot of people arrangements domains question in the live chat so yeah there we go snowman they go. Thanks everyone for answers question. Do we have anything else so that's my brother. That says he'll tell me after the podcast sums up okay here we go. Let's look lose. Any of the numbers wanna see here we go. There's a good one a nico benz throwing three touchdowns. I think he's going to take that much to win. Not throwing three touchdown but there's gonna score over three touchdowns to win this game. The patriots just put up more than twenty points at home. That's what they do so that would it'd be a good one so i'm continuing to try to find through here and you'll hear lots of good stuff here with the live chat tonight lots of people hop and lots. It's a good conversation back and forth but this this might be the last one we do right here. Is tom and gonna pull out any. I don't think so if if there are places probably gonna go be credited more towards the towards the coordinators. I don't see anything tricky on defense. Defense has is going to kind of do what they do. It's kinda hard to ride trick play on defense <hes> if they do try to do something trick special teams. I don't know if that's a talented dailies. Danny amy smith thing and any kind of trick play. That's got rainy figuring all over it. Are they going to try to trick plays. I don't know that i'm going to call a trick play. Eh but i'm gonna say you're gonna see you're gonna see at least three or four times that the steelers are going to do something that you are expecting or something and you haven't seen before whether it'd be something strange with their personnel whether it be. I don't see them snapping the ball to anybody buddy other than ben rothlisberger. Maybe you see something crazy with james. Connor split out wide to wide receivers next to ban or something like that so i'm not saying it's for sure. I'm just trying to give an example of something that you could see something a little bit more crazy trying to catch them off guard. I don't think you're going to see the to create dennis that the patriots will try to pull you know the stuff they did against the ravens several years ago where they're splitting offensive lineman out wide a lining up eligible guys is is ineligible to confuse people and things like that. I don't think they're going to go that far but but will say that before we get going. Oh wait. We do have one more question here. Someone said is adamant. Hurt the report from ian rapoport from e._s._p._n. The n. after the patriots preseason game element left where it seemed like he had reinjured his thumb that he'd had a problem with was that wasn't a serious this injury. They didn't even call it a rag rotation <hes> but that he has completely fine polcy tomorrow <hes> when injury report comes out a we we all know how the patriots like to manipulate that report so <hes> guys. It's been a good night a couple of things. I wanna mention <hes> since i borrowed lynch's internet connection tonight. I really hope that <hes>. I hope i've been cutting out because when it's just me i have no idea if i did or not so hopefully everything was clear clear tonight. I'm hoping that it wasn't a problem because on a solo show you never really really tell <hes> the one person boat getting back with boat did say that it's an kill harry areas hurt. He went on the i. r. for them as needed to return that's why they cut to marry his thomas and then re signed him whenever they could get harry to on on my are so they can <hes> so they can get him back with that so a few things just not to mention before you alton one tomorrow night. Make sure you are don't what's going on with the behind steel curtain podcasts because there there's a very good chance you're going to be getting to two different. Podcasts might almost be back to back that probably would make sure everything scheduled out right jeff. Hartmann didn't mention this before he teased a little bit the tomorrow night <hes> he's everything falls according to plan around nine o'clock that he'll be coming on with the steelers went on one where he's going to have a former pittsburgh steeler on with him the hobie talking with about this upcoming season and this week's game and just kind of getting his thoughts on things. You do not want to miss that. I'm not liberty say who it is but you say i'm just kind of glad that it's a one on one because i'm afraid i would embarrassed myself. Fan boy a little bit because because it's just kind of so that's one two they will then come back on with the standard is the standard tomorrow mar night after that where they will have someone from the from the pats pulpit the new injury the new england patriots <hes> espy nation site that that's gonna come on to talk about the upcoming game so that's two different things. If you make sure you don't miss those. You've got to make sure that you go to the youtube channel be. D._s.'s radio hits subscribe and hit the bell so you'll get the notifications. You want to know when those podcast tomorrow night because trust me. That's going to be something to watch. Another thing that i wanna talk about is narcan tests. That jeff wanted to cut the contest off this past saturday but then so many people were asking and still trying to get it. He says you know there's no reason to cut it off. Keep it going going until we fill a fifth league and we filled that leaked so fast jeff like we gotta go to a six one so our contest for the signed david decastro football is still up and running it is the number is the top article on behind the curtain right now. 'cause i just refreshed it before the show and that's and that's what we got so for that you check out the article it is a it is a survivor football league runner through yahoo. All you gotta do is pick hic one game each week. If your team wins you go on one game. Just want not all of them one once you but once you pick that team you cannot pick that team again later on the season so once you pick the steelers can't pick again so that's what's going on the last person standing out of all the leagues will win the sign david decastro football <hes> i've i've got a bit more information coming out on what happens if people if everyone gets eliminated before the end of the end of the season or if they're still a lot of people left at the end of the season how we're going to go forward with that so i'm hoping everything worked out today. I says i had a strong internet connection here but i know sometimes when i clicked clicked on some things they they lagged a little bit so so that's what's going on guys. That's you don't wanna miss these podcasts sorry guys and gals <hes> you do not want to miss these podcast tomorrow night so we have both of them coming up tomorrow night thursday night. We have the steelers preview with myself. Jeff hartmann o'brien anthony davis friday they night. I'm pretty sure friday night is lance. Williams burning question or nine might not be nights and then the other one would be <hes> number question lance williams he i said it it's jeff. Hartman's burning question i took the two shows friday and saturday and combine them and i'm not sure which one is friday which went saturday but on the other of sorts lance williams said it and then jeff hartmann burning question <hes> or another steelers wanna one depending would be the other day and then sunday. We're back with the post game show with jeff and lance. 'cause it's right here. Were just a few days away. We've got two days until meaningful the n._f._l. Football but more importantly is that sunday night when i know about you all but to me the most meaningful n._f._l. Football steelers football nope so thank you for joining tonight and we'll we'll be back again next week from some more steeler stat geek. We'll see how those numbers held up. We'll see if that sixteen scene game win. Streak comes to an end. We'll see if that sixteen point. Margin of victory can be overcome. We're gonna take some of those numbers. Were going to chop down tom. <hes> bring the patriots down a little bit <hes> and not an off their high horse. That's what that's what we wanna. See the steelers to do this week. We'll be back next tuesday night to talk about more stats and in the words of our friend of the show lance williams tune in tele friend and subscribe. We'll see you next week.
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We're going to run that song right back. We're not we're not running anything anything back. We're going to ask why. Why did you really play that song where you jamming today actually started my day off of that song because it was so funny. I don't know why that song popped in my head but legit jeff. The reason we play that song is because it's morning y'all were still in the house and i was saying no. I was like setting out of my day and i thought of that song and i literally posted emma emma g._m._i. Stories i was like low key. This is the this is the song that my future houses singing. Don't know our houses name. Where are you in and then. I was like oh. It's a good song so our house somewhere out there. Wonder how how it is in your mind that you operate bay but you know what i'd done. That song doesn't connect it. Does now that you've explained it was just great has nothing to do with today's today's topic at all in our episode at all but it says everything to do with our current situation. I have a fun story to tell you. I want to know how did go today. Because you did go house hunting. I was able to participate but i did yesterday all day. Exhausting exhausting you've seen twenty six house twenty seven seven houses in three days and if you really wanna know guys outgoing john that goes womp want well well now we do yeah. It's not going well. You guys scourging it. Really it's so hard in moments like like this to not. Just wanna pull your hair. When you know time is so precious so the time that we are spending here in l._a. We want to spend it productively <hes> but you you know with my travel schedule coming up. I also wanna spend time with teeny in our friends and just be as productive with our workflow as we can so it's just our world is definitely been shaken up. You know and i think it's just one of those times in life babe where we just have to keep our head above the water and i believe that god really is moving on this and he's in control 'cause i'm just like where are you is funny because last night you were asking me. We were talking about how we felt. I just started laughing. Y'all i mean like i'm at the point where i'm like she goes why are you laughing goes like historically laughing. 'cause i don't even know anymore. We could do this. We can do like anymore and i was just laughing and i was a little bit the frustration but really just like you know what i've just kind of giving up control of the situation you know and i was just laughing like man god's gonna let us know where the right one is. We're gonna know our guts go like the last time and i was talking to my dad this morning. I called him and i was like hey man. He's like what cell phones like. Pray for me today man because i was like day three looking bleat league you know i don't really know what's going on. He was like you know what he's like. All i can tell you men. Is that like last time. You've found the house on the last day in the last place you know and he said and we didn't today today but just be at peace. He's because your piece is a communication with god. You trust him to take care of. It and that's been the wrestling through this whole thing right babe. It's like trust. I trust trust and it's like your emotions trying to play made lauren day goal. We play that last week. Did you feel is our turn. That's john's one song. She knows right now. Y'all she gets on like one song per month every week. I mean it's how we find our house. That's a good sign but i honestly i'm not even stressing like the right. One is gonna come at the right time because it's just all good maybe but i have a cool story. That happened today of all things sean. You'll appreciate ashamed to by the way i think a lot of listeners appreciate this y'all so we go to this one house in woodland hills. It's like yeah. We're way up there. In the hills and <hes> is is really actually a cool house just vibe but we walk in and the lady was like oh yeah <hes> to puck this was to pack house and i was like i said this is to park south. I love like who doesn't mean two bucks man wow legend and i was like wow this is. Two pox should yeah yeah. She's like i didn't even i know who he was. When i moved in here she said why the sink so low i didn't she thought he was a basketball player. I was like oh my gosh. I was like god how but she goes. My kids were like mom. It's to box house and her son. There's actually a d._j. So he really appreciated but interesting enough first of all while wow this was to pox house and it was his how winter she wasn't lying to try to get that sale. I'm not finished. This is my story william. A will ferrell scene is old. Let me finish right dog so we're walking to the house. I'm like wow two bucks house. That's really cool. Ending we go in the back yard and she jonas gorgeous and she goes over here. It's a slab and it used to be a dog kennel and she goes oh and that's to pox writing and i was like why i was like. I'm sorry can i can take a second. Can i take a picture of this so he had etched in there a few who phrases and names and honesty all looking this gave me chills because you know it was to pot for real and send this to my friend like had a really good conversation. What if it wasn't i mean. She went all out of her way. No no it actually so we had to name sketch in there which is castro in napoleon. I'm wondering those his dogs names but castro napoleon obviously dudes who kind of took over their time military leaders and whatnot castro monopole france yeah that was his pool yeah but but so so this is what this is what the thing said that that took a picture of it said outlaws with z and it said let no man separate what we create and i was just like oh yeah. That's two bucks. Now is so oh to park. Have you guys seen that movie call and she's not she wasn't the type of person compton. That's one of my favorite movies. Oh yes he wasn't it yet. Unless he made an appearance in that he was in the movie and then he got us for saying spin off movie from ice cubes group. I was like no he wasn't yeah okay. Okay good okay. You're right. He was in the movie but but i just thought that i was honest. I got chills. Y'all and i told the lady i was like yo. I'm not even mess because she wasn't making it up she she she didn't she didn't know anything she was just like yeah. I don't know is that cool and i was like it's super so why why are why. Are you like the house. It says here that castro with k yeah. It's actually a cousin of his and a fellow performer. He was in outlaws box group. Yeah oh shoot. I thought that was like i the realtor should have known this napoleon. Schanzer researching goes to pot fans. We are we all right danny. Amy manny got it actually another rapper. Wow holy crap okay. Maybe that was like their little blood oath. You know what i mean like it makes sense. He said let no man separate what we create too. That's crazy and this is the house that he passed in. Y'all tamie shit. I know how many people have lived in that house just her. Why been there for a while wait. The realtor is also the owner of the house. She was just showing the owner. We're showing house but <hes> <hes> this was crazy. Y'all i told her i was like i'm not even messing with you right now. Is i but you need to cut that out of the ground. Make it an art piece as you can. Hang on your wall you. You can sell it. Whatever you wanna do. I said but i would do that. I wonder if that also affects the cost of this house like if the price went up he doesn't give a flip. She's like i guess. I don't know i'm not doing like honestly. He's he's so iconic and important. It could be like a historical landmark. Oh dudes li. It could look how cool this looks literally. Look at what our radio. I thought he got but i'm saying that's the house that he was living in when he saw okay he wasn't yeah he was shot. I think invasive but yes to god you. Oh my sister's going to freak out over there. No i can't wait to tell in person. Don't be me okay so that house was annot yet. I mean it was actually really beautiful just like our style. You know what i mean. You know it is when you look at for how i don't know sean. We looked at a house yesterday. All and stevie was like this is was the second time going back to this house and he was like saz. You've just got to walk in and see the. I know that like the lighting's good the bones are there but i'm just in my he was so excited and i pulled up to this house and i walk in and it was one of those houses that made eight absolutely no sense i mean the owner had built onto the house so she just kept adding adding more house to the house and it didn't make sense and i walked into into the center of the house and she basically built a restaurant. I'm talking like there's a bar. There's tables and chairs. There's a pool table and i'm like is this now turning into to a restaurant like what in the world tour was like oh. She loved to host parties so she decided to create her own kind of pub. What the heck are we going to do it. That listen listen. It's let's let me explain all right. I was on the fence about the house and the realtor was like you know i just see this as an incredible and i was like really and then there there were some cool. There was some cool stuff about that house but i just was like i said i was like i want you to see it. I want to see how you and that was announced. You'll everytime ask turn a corner. She would like pause and my one. I was sticking out the corn and she gave me like the stink are you. What's annoying sean. Is that like a lot of these houses that we go and look at the realtor. That's trying china's sell. The house follows you in every room so you can't actually say how you feel out loud without feeling that has like a duck. Look giving you this the other when somebody's lying stealing every corner there were so many weird corners of this house so every hallway and every corner i'd pass i look at stevie with the stink and i couldn't actually look them in the eyes because i was gonna laugh and we're both trying not to laugh because i could literally feel like okay. I didn't even so you know you. Here's any advice anyone who's looking for a home. Obviously means devi have not found our house so i would be really helpful to you but if there's one thing i've learned from house hunting. It's that the second you walk into a home. If you're already kind of ready to leave before you've even looked at the entire house. Chances are you should probably leave because because imagine the amount of time you're going to be spending once you buy that house and if you already feel unsettled within the first five minutes of like just get me outta here. It's not worth it so i've been doing that a a lot and you make fun of me because you're too busy chitchatting with the owners and the realtors and talking about god knows what and i'm just looking at the house and within ten minutes. I'm like yeah we can go. You know judge right about judo got no time to waste rodrigue. Oh i walk into a house and i said he's gonna do but i don't. I don't want it on the realtors military because ultimately my time is very precious. Do these accents when we're looking at houses to throw people off he does this. He's trying to laugh as trying to make it fun. Because after the house's this thing gets exhausting entire. You know what i actually have like a lot of. I realize like i have i am so quickly with the crappy. Dad jokes like literally sheet. She's what did she man. I made so many cheesy jersey actually proud of myself he does. I go over the job because i do too much. If you do have a house out there stephen i don't right now because as you know we're living out suitcases. What if you got a house or apartment and union also. 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I wanted to say that a few weeks ago when i asked people to leave a comment on our video or date night video were instagram. She's our date night. I said if you guys want to see us do a superhero date night. <hes> we had some comments on there i know but did we have the amount that we said we said i think fifty okay yeah yeah. I think we had a lot in enough and the people you just want to do this you really do you know what we're not doing it in l._a. Unless we do it on hollywood boulevard we're gonna do this awesome. Why can't we do it in l. a. Are you worried coming back to l._a. After this okay but i mean i'm just wondering what superhero you know. What superior would you be of eligible and don't be no baseball. I kinda wanna oughta be wonder woman but i wanna get cute and cheek now. I don't have the guts to wear that outfit. That's allergic off the wonder woman you'd kill it. I had no. I i wanna be storm on x. Men always yeah and look a little creepy but like the white hair. I have always loved that white hair on her kind of reminds me of like collegiate to the game of thrones. I could see a stormy vibe calm after the storm power puff girl well. I just wonder if i should like be basic can be superman and just be like oh always superman by should be batman so i can just be like i was wondering croutons came on the salads okay. That's okay yeah. You'd have to do the accident. We'll keep we'll keep thinking about it. We'll keep praying about it and we'll see if this is actually gonna go down on my chair. Okay let's get to the good news is good for the week. This first story is about how <hes> more than forty percent of millennials have changed their diets because it's better for the environment a hello. Did you hear about the amazon amazon rainforest saying that it was due to eating meat. I don't know if that's true or not. But that's what i read an article that was one person's opinion it may not but with their settled down here again new survey of american millennials found that their relationship to food is more unique than the previous generations as almost six in ten of them fifty seven percent currently subscribed to a special diet for those who call die i at forty four percent do so because it's better for the environment and thirty seven say it's more ethical commissioned by vegetarian and plant based food producer sweet earth foods and conducted by one poll hold the survey of two thousand millennials looked at the trends and spends on millennial diets examining their tastes must haves when it comes to food. I wonder where they did. The sample because is <hes> from new york to texas is completely different. You know what i mean where you live. What region how how hold these foods are you know. Process things are in certain in region. I mean when i eat bread in italy doesn't hurt my stomach so it really depends where it where you live but i mean it's cool that people are making the decision to actually eat healthy and to be more aware of their diet to actually help with the environment right. I mean i do think that at the end of the day it's like you've got to do it because you you wanna do it not because you feel like others are pushing you to do it or because you think it's a trend if you really feel it in your heart that you want to do it. I'm all for it right but if you're somebody who also feels like you know what i can't live without x._y._z. We shouldn't be shaming. You know what i mean. At the end of the day. It's like it's to be able to eat is a blessing you know what i mean and so many places in countries countries around the world that are living in poverty. They don't have that luxury to even think he'd so. I do think it's important that we are sensible. It saying that is saying that millennials these are the ways they've changed their diet forty six percent of trying to eat healthier foods forty-one percent of avoided sugar thirty six percent at focused on plant based foods <hes> thirty four. We're gonna alcohol-free and thirty four percent of cut down on meat consumption. I just wonder though if they've done this poll between like twenty or eighteen thirty because i honestly feel like there's like a point in your life. If when you get to like thirty maybe thirty five. I'm not there yet but you're just like y'all over. This mental catch will be i. I i think this generation the millennials to and even the generation after i think like jenn zad and all of them. They're just more aware they want facs. They want logics. They want to know what they're putting in their body what they're putting on their skin clean ingredients radiance were heading more into that type of a society and i'm all for it just means that we've become more wise and aware of ingredients which is great all right. I've got a good news story of the week. <hes> you know jeopardy host. Alex trebek's is back after announcing. He is on the men from stage five cancer cancer diagnosis. If you guys haven't heard a few months ago maybe it was yeah. It goes back to our earlier doodoo. Shout out wow yeah. I don't watch jeopardy babe. Do you watch joe. I yeah i used to watch it all the time after school i mean i don't have that kind of time. Sean are you would like these. Your family watch game shows like that. Yeah used to all oh growing up me and my sisters just wash game shows all the time after school. I don't know why i feel like game. Shows are in kurdish words tongue which means low key depress. It's yeah i love it. It's mindless tv like you don't need to think it's something you could like. Passively watch feel good when it's on you know what i'm so. The announcement comes just five months after he told the public about his stage four o. stage four not five just don't know roman numerals okay stage four war pancreatic cancer diagnosis in an official video that was released earlier this week. The seventy nine year old entertainer said he returned to the show in order to host host. Its upcoming season the thirty six th season of jeopardy. They began filming this season now. In july and it's due to premiere on public cable channels channels on september ninth coming up like these like a legend like is he just known for jeopardy that was it was working. He enjoyed it right. I think it was it was a good good friend needs to do anything else but he said if you're wondering the latest on his health he's gone through a lot of chemotherapy repeat said thankfully that's now over now. He's on the mend and that's all i can hope for right now. <hes> it's gotta be tough. The doctor said they hadn't seen anything like this kind of a positive results in the treatment that he got <hes> which is great and some of the tumors have already shrunk by more than fifty percent which goes to show at the beginning of the prognosis they say oh oh will pancreatic cancer is one of the worst that you can have and you're not gonna live a very long life but i love that this is saying otherwise which goes to show that you know i- medicine obviously is is medicine but at the same time i believe in the power of prayer and healing and also just the result. He's it's effective. It's working which is great nods to alex alex trebek's. Welcome back but i've asked a real question. Don't be biased because your family does this jeopardy or family. What does it family feud. Which one i. i think i'm a family feud person because steve harvey. It's just funny at the host really makes a joke but i will say that alex trebek's cozy when he's just timeless. Ah you know he's so great in so chill divide on. You're nodding your head. I just think that like jeopardy is like. I'm not gonna know half of the question right like like i'll do you think they prep them beforehand like they get memorize them. Some of these are but they have some really smart like the people on the show. Kinda remind me of the the guys coming on our show. Oh he zach freeman. He's got like four incredible degrees. You know they have people like that on their show. We're just like how did they know. How did they know that specific genres and family feud is a survey of one hundred people quit they said so. It's a guess on what other people say. It's the top answer so it's easier to choose because it's it's a layman's i wanna i wanna do a family. Feud influencers like the influences versus the instagram husband's like versus our husbands wouldn't that be great any the producers listening from family few emails me okay info at on me thank you. That's my business. Let's make make a deal with wayne brady. Everybody wears a costume to everybody. In the crowd. You can hosted game show. I just realized that somebody somebody asked me to host a game. Show like verizon like online and then they never got back to me so they follow up on the road. I tell him hey verizon at me. It's your boy tailor made for that. All right on the show. Today is zack friedman the c._e._o. Of make lemonade he just released a book called the laminate emanate life how to fuel success create happiness and conquer anything and he's here to talk to us about what drives success believe it or not. It's not just about about the school you attend your job title or your net worth. He says it's also not just about your hard work talent and skill he talks about some really interesting concepts and things that you can start doing today day to live a purpose full life and a successful life so we're gonna have him on here in just a bit and i'm trying to get all those little nuggets here on the good life the main man. How can you afford gas for that big v. I pay less guessing everyone else. I got the free get upside gas at two twenty five cents a gallon cash back every time i am i buy gas you up to twenty five cents off a gallon with the free gifts. I guess app while i'm paying full price. You know people aren't over a million dollars last year you you just got to take a picture of your gas receipt and bam up to twenty five cents a gallon cash back. You don't have to tell me twice downloaded the free. 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If you want twenty percent off off at good american dot com just go onto the website and make sure you put the forward slash the good life all right. That's good american dot com forward slash the good life and the discounts gonna be applied at checkout -joy enjoy exact act welcome to the good life. How's it going antastic. It's great to be here. It's good to have you on. Thanks so much for being here with us now. Zac you just came out with a book the lemonade life life and so i wanted you to explain that a little bit more to our audience because when i first heard the title i wasn't sure what it was about and then obviously opening your book and reading into it. I'm like okay. This makes makes sense but if you could explain the lemonade life to us yeah well first of all you see it in the bookstore and you can buy it online or in the bookstore or on the great audiobook that we've done. You'll notice the big yellow lemon. Yeah not messed it on the blue background so the lemonade life so every single day all of us whether we realize it or not or making a fundamental choice and that is to either either lead a lemon life or lemonade life and the lemon life is about settling for life. That's that's not your best self. Okay it's built on settling and pretending attending chasing and unfortunately it's where most people actually lead their lives but they may not even realize it but on the other side of that path is a better road and it's called the lemonade life and the lemonade life is leading your life on your terms with purpose and possibility and purpose is the underlying reason why you do what you do. The reason you get up every morning. It's your life mission and possibilities infinite opportunity and so when you connect purpose and possibility and you tie it all together with action and you do it on your terms you get to lead the lemonade life and so the whole book is how do we get from being lemonade lifers <hes> excuse me lemon lifers to becoming lemonade manege lifers and you do it as discussing this book through five switches and we can delve into that but there's really five behaviors that drive success in life and that's why the lemonade life zach before we get to the switches because i want to talk to you about that you mentioned but i wanted to talk about what you just said. Which is kind of like action linked to purpose is is really you know an action as the lincoln and i was listening to a podcast you did we mention that as well and i thought that was interesting because i've been thinking a lot about action and how important that step is and so i wanted to just kind of focus on that for a second because i think there's a lot of books out there that are trying to tell people how to live their best life and achieve success and relationships ships in business as well but when you boil it down there there's this there's this <hes> step of action that i feel so many of us hesitate to make overlooking we focus so much on our perspective and on our purpose but we forget to take the actual step through the actual action. You know absolutely <hes>. Why do you think that is i think so many people are afraid and they don't necessarily admit it but i think so. Many people live in what i call a chasm of can't which is an environment where excuses reign supreme right. It's i don't have enough money. Eh i'm too old that you know my time has passed. I'll never be able to accomplish that and those are the things we tell ourselves. There's also what our friends and family tell us or what society tells us about what we can and can't do and i think people unfortunately tend to get more dependent on those other ideas rather than being independent thinking freely for themselves as a result <hes>. It's very hard to take those action steps so you're right. There are a lot of books just to talk positively or or a right perspective but if you don't do the hard work yourself and i'm a a strong believer that it's really up to you and only you to create the life that you want. If you want to lead the good life as your podcast says the onus is really on you and i i think people really need to tie that action to that positive mindset and without action without hard work none of the greatness and success that we all want to enjoy the happiness that we want can really bloom blooming flourish unless we do it ourselves absolutely agree. That's such such a good point and you know you start your book with the story about having lunch with warren buffett which was so so well written so interesting to read yeah. I actually really liked the way right and of course a lot of other people. Do you have an incredibly popular column on forbes and so <hes> talked to us about about being with warren buffett being with somebody like that. What were the takeaways when you know there's so many books out there now to talking about the habits of great people like this that have achieved great success. I mean what were some of the habits. Were some of the traits that you noticed about any real like wow okay. That's i gotta take note of that. Yeah exactly i i was so inspired to have lunch with warren buffet as you can imagine and the first thing i thought i would learn would be you know ideas about business or the economy or how to build an investment empire and i heard all of those things but what really struck me and really stood out from the pack was that warren buffett is a lot different than you would think just watching him on t._v. Or reading about him and what stuck out for me was really this one fundamental question which became really the inspiration for my book the lemonade life which is what drives success and i'm listening to this billionaire speak. We were not sitting in new york city. We were in omaha nebraska and you're sitting in omaha nebraska listening to this brilliant man but what i found is that it was really more not so much about skill skill or the hard worker the talent that he developed himself it was really about internal happiness and perspective and self awareness of who he was and as i listen listen to him. I began to really understand that concept of you know. Don't just chase the money. Don't just go to wall street. Don't just go to hollywood to make it bigger silicon valley. <hes> really really do what you're good at do. What makes you gives you perspective and gives you fulfillment inside. You know have a sunny outlook understand who you are are what your strengths and weaknesses are and they started hearing all these different things than you would expect coming from warren buffett and spoke to me and inspired me and it made me look at the world differently and it became one of the reasons that i wrote the lemonade life. 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Leave a review or something telling me that you try to go peek real bridge because i would actually really present and if you do i'll read that review on our next show that you track because that just means ed trust me enough to try try to slightly sweet or the green tea personal themes there and they've got a variety of wanting blooms originals. You can get the mini cooper you could get the truck and of course you guys with ice cold. Gold p grill t the comforts of home are never far away. You can find your favorite gold peak flavor flavor retailer near you can just come over to my house and all the top gone. Gopi grill bruti the tastes that brings you home. Wow i think that ties back back into that key word of authenticity that we do so many times think that's kind of the common denominator when we have a lot of entrepreneurs come on this show. It's that you really only half to stay true to exactly who you are and let all the other things kind of drive your success around that. I wanna talk about those. The power of you say flipping the five internal switches you say when activated these five switches are the secret to maximize potential fuel success in lead lead happier life and this is something that people can start doing literally tomorrow so can you kind of walk us through each of those switches because that's what i'm at the edge of my seat kind of wanting two two here and i know you talk about it in your book as well yeah i i love that and so being inspired from warren buffett i began to look at other leaders and i said look are there commonalities here here that is not just with warren buffett but other leaders in business or politics or entertainment sports and began to see these commonalities among great leaders and i really boiled it down to these five character traits these habits these switches so to speak and they're just like light switches and they're not just in famous or successful people there actually inside inside all of us and i firmly believe when you flip those five internal switches they're five behaviors and when you flip them on it really is the secret to live a better life to live the good life so to speak so good so i guess people have to read the book to figure out what they are right. I'm happy to tell you. I'm happy to tell you. I'm hanging. That's that's true i mean. I wasn't sure it was like you gotta get the book to check it out but i mean i'm so i'm also interested to kind of as you say sharing them. Damn i want to know if i have any of those switches. Turn on or off. That's a great question so so the five switches can be remembered very simply. There's an acronym called prism awesome. Ok p r. I s m so for perspective are as for risk is for independence as his for self-awareness s. and m. is for motion and if you're able to harness the power of those five switches and we all have them and when you flip those on those <unk> are really the behaviors that you need to model yourself after some of the greats across all those spectrums that i mentioned to lead a life that's not only more successful but but also a happier one in a lot of the lemonade life is not just it's not material wealth. It's really defining your best self for you. It's the authentic self. You just mentioned likud. Who are you really and who do you really want to become. Not not what you think you're supposed to be or your parents. Tell your friends what you're reading about in the newspaper but like who are you really supposed to be what do you actually good at and follow that path and whether material wealth is your goal fantastic if it's raising a family wonderful if it's writing a bestseller fantastic if you want to host the best podcast <hes> if you want to serve through public service or join the military or be a police officer. Whatever is your best life. That's with eliminate life is all about how do you harness the power to do that. Wafted you start with perspective like do you start with p. I yes yeah absolutely look. I firmly believe that and we talked about this. It's a little bit in the beginning. <hes> having a positive mindset is the number one thing that you need to do first and by a positive mindset i don't just mean you're listening to a great podcast for five minutes <hes> or or watching a youtube clip and getting really inspired because a lot of times what happens is s._d._s. You said it's like you don't take that action afterward. So you watch youtube clip. You get inspired and then nothing happens uh-huh and so what i'm talking about and i talked about in the book is how do you rewire your brain so you're actually oriented towards towards positivity and it doesn't mean you're happy twenty four hours hours a day but what it means is you see the world you view the world perspective and lens and a filter that you believe in the power of humanity you believe in goodness and kindness tennis in the world you believe in the idea of happiness and whatever whatever you find in your life all the challenges that roadblocks and we'll have them <hes> it's how you approach life and how you get back up every day that really determines who you're going to be common if you believe in this idea of possibility and opportunity and in the book i tell you how to leverage that in very specific ways. I do believe that you can lead a happier life. A greater life that brings more success to you internally and externally <hes> amen to that because power of the mind. I mean how you do anything is how you do everything one of our guests one. Jim quick said that on this show and he so right you know what even making your bed in the morning i mean it's this decision that you make to flip that switch in your mind that you are going to focus on the things that are right in front of you and i love that that's so true and that can be the hardest obstacle for some on people is just getting over that hop and it could take time you know these are not things are gonna happen overnight so it can obviously that can discourage people too but at the same time you gotta get going. It's it's on you yeah. Absolutely i think also too. It seems like a lot of people have a stage in which they really get. You know they really get caught up. What do you think is the most common stage people or do. You think it's risk where people are like. Oh okay that's not easy. You know i mean what do you think is the most common sage where people kind of get caught in terms of the five servant in yeah. I think it's different for everybody. I i'd probably say it's independence <hes> going back to what i was saying earlier. I think there are so many distractions in life <hes> <hes> whether it's social markers or wealth creation or you need to do what your best friends doing or your neighbor and i think a lot of people whether they realize it or not are focused on a life of dependence <hes> and it's. I want to dress a certain way. I want to look like someone on social media. <hes> i want to be as wealthy as my neighbor is keeping up with the joneses mentality and i think besides sides i just being naturally unhealthy. I think more importantly it's really leading a life of dependence it it it means by definition that your destiny is based on someone else's wants and desires and bowls and so you're really following what i call the herd mentality and until you separate you know what your friends have rather then kind of be like them. It's better to just root for them like root for their success but it's better for you to focus on what you want your path to be doesn't mean you can't take the good elements from them but lead the life of independence where you're literally in charge of your own destiny and it's not based on someone else and when you do that it's probably the most on inspiring thing that you can do in your life because it gives you a freedom and and it gives you the freedom to live your life the way that you wanna live your life actually to develop the opportunities possibilities and lead with that purpose. I talked about in the beginning to leave the path. It's best for you. Um lemonade so after all of these <hes> studies on these very successful people <hes> this is what you gathered were. The most common traits correct common the common switches. That's right. We're seeing in them. I was wondering for you what has been you know. I think with everyone. There's there is sometimes an aha moment. I think we you you know we have. We gather information. You know like you said and sometimes we don't quite know how to put it together. You know maybe we're we're caught on something we can't quite figure it out you know and and and some people make excuses and some people legitimately are trying to figure out maybe what should i take action in. What should i take risk in. What am i passionate about. You know what is my purpose and and some of our legitimately caught. I'm just i'm curious as for you. What was your aha moment where you felt like you figured out your personal cali. Yeah you're calling or your keys to success. That's a wonderful question for me. It was really as i started developed a lemonade life and the concept was really thinking about that first part heart which was purpose and i'll tell you an exercise that i did and i would recommend that everybody do it as well and it sounds very simple but it's not and that is literally take a piece of paper <hes> and write down one sentence and that sense is my life. Purpose is and then fill in the blank. Oh that's hard. It's hard right. It sounds simple but it actually it actually is really really hard. If you think about curiously for for you what what was that so my life purpose is really to lead and create impact for other people like that that that that is my life purpose i do with my company which is called make lemonade on which is a personal finance company. <hes> i'm lou doing with the lemonade lyft really inspire people bowl to lead their best life. It's very important to me on how i can make people's lives better and help them see the light to lead the life of their mental live <hes> and so i i would just encourage everyone to really think about their purpose and there's so many different types of purpose it can be to serve others. It can be to inspire others. It can be to take care of your family. They can beat a create a business that makes people's lives easier sure <hes> it could be the serve the public in there so many different ways that we can all create purpose and i think the aha moment for me was understanding my life purpose because it led me to understand myself a lot better <hes> and i think going back to that what you said earlier about authenticity when you're authentic and you understand who you are and where you fit in where you're supposed to be again again. I think that's like a weight off your shoulders and so i would encourage everyone. I would implore everyone to kind of think about their life purpose because it can be life changing did did you did you have any specific acidic moment where you are in college and you were doing a speech or something like that and you're like oh. I need to be doing this. I need to be guiding and leading or was it kind of you. Just kind of containing sounds sounds yeah. It was five minutes ago in this podcast. Come on now look. I think there's been a number of times in my life. I don't think there was necessarily one one moment <hes> you know i think it's always been important to me to to to give back and serve others in different ways. You know starting growing up. My grandparents taught me a lot about community service risk <hes> yeah i remember as a kid can kinda doing community service programs and projects with them that kind of inspired me to give back my dad's a doctor so i saw him taking care of patients into making their lives better and <hes>. I've always thought about ways that business can make people's lives better. <hes> eliminate life is is really about inspiring people and helping them to live a better life lyft create better businesses <hes> you know to to think differently about the world and how they can they can create more happiness so so those things are important to me. They inspire me and i want to share that inspiration with others others. Hey guys the american heart. Association wants to talk to you today. On the good life you've probably heard of the american heart association there are relentless force dedicated to fighting heart disease and stroke with the mission to bring the world longer and healthier lives they sponsored our show because all of us love to indulge in our phones and liking content and social media give us life right but millennial women have de prioritize their health and they need to change that the american heart association is here to remind us that we should be spending more time on the thing that actually gives zest life and that's how can we help our hearts. It's easy all instead of being couch scrolling through your phone for hours use some of that time and walk a little bit more dance. The jig the jig dancing for one hour every week for a year is like walking from chicago to indianapolis day then also this is a prototype. Try hopping on the treadmill next time you're scrolling through your phone phone. You get the both worlds there and make some moves. Let's get that beautiful heart of yours racing before we get back to the episode. If you're sitting down right now stood up he's back down instead of a few more times than he's done squats which means they're driving. Don't squad in your car and you did that multiple times a week. You'd be one step closer to a healthier heart. A healthier lifestyle check out some more facts on the american heart association's website by visiting heart dot o._r._g. And start making moves police stopped working plays please. I love that through your journey of research and going out there and learning from others and hearing these stories you've been able to kind of gain this insight insight and you don't want to just keep it to yourself. You want to share that with the world and that's really great because i think nowadays people really are looking for that and i i love that your book is a book that it's not just screaming at you right like a lot of sometimes motivational entrepreneurs when reading these books. You're just like overwhelmed. I mean you are speaking talking to people and and and really coming down to to that level of trying to figure it out you know and and really getting on their level and i think that's absolutely incredible. Bull you do share a lot of these stories in your book and i'll just say one that caught my eye was the ice cream truck driver who made one hundred and ten thousand thousand dollars in less than an hour. What kind of ice cream was he selling. Yes but i love that you have all these really unique seeks stories. You guys have gotta check out this book. You guys are going to have so many takeaways from it <hes> and also one last question. We always ask our guests here on the good life. What is good in your life right now. It can be anything at number. One is my family. I'm i'm very blessed to have a wonderful wife <hes> and and beautiful children who are all healthy and they bring me the greatest joy in the world so for me that is my good life and i feel very blessed <hes> and fully gratitude to have such a wonderful family family so very thankful for that zach. Thank you so much for coming on the show fam- you gotta check out his book the lemonade life zach as i said you have a way of writing. It's wonderful fam- you gotta check it out. If you're somebody who is wanting to achieve more success more good those you wanna talk about but you guys just got to check out the book. That's right back. Thanks again for being on the show and <unk>. I'm craving lemonade now. Thank you guys so much. Thanks guys guys again. That was act friedman <hes> he so great for coming on our show in his book really is written so well. He has a way of writing. There's no wonder he has millions millions of people reading his column on forbes babe and his book. There's so many books out there. I feel like with so much information about how to improve your life how to achieve success and i think this one's really well written. I think it's a book that really does teach your mind. How you know change is possible if you do remain positive and also to go out there and just experiment with your life a little bit. You know not play it so safe. I love what you said to about authenticity. I think that's a really great point and one that should be brought back and brought back like many times because you've experienced that too. It's like who am i really and where does my identity fit into my my future and my goals and i love that babe when he said you know when you finally relief figure out who you are in your in your authentic self. It's kind of like this weight is lifted off your shoulders. I can totally only when you saying that testify to that because i've just gone through so many years in this specific industry as an influencer and just trying to find my way. It wasn't something that i just had always envisioned that. I would be doing with my life so when it fell on my lap. I didn't necessarily know if i could handle it. It felt heavy at times so along the way i've had to kind of learn how to become my own and how to you know just authentically be my sow and obviously god has been huge role in that and through that i've i have been able to really tap into. I feel like my purpose and now i'm focused and i'm living that lemonade life now living a lemon life for a long time. There's a there's an element of fear feature that goes into like. Can i just be myself because there's vulnerability in that in an authenticity and i think everybody faces that fear at some point. They come to some point where they're like. Oh i'm afraid to fully fully be myself because if people know who i am they'll be able to judge me and if the judge who i really am that's really gonna hurt me and then that goes back to the prison thing that he said you know taking the risk the we are just boldly being yourself regardless you know and that's a risk right there so that checks that off there so i just loved that he gave real principles and things that you could practice today and tomorrow and start thinking about it. Make sure we'll start turning a little bit gears. Don't have wheels and they are turning wheels. Turn wills turn shawn's nodding. Yes you know this. You always think anyways guys i. We hope you enjoyed this episode today of the good life we just try to bring you guys a variety of shows topics because we are all on this journey and figuring it out what it means to live a good life together gimme a kiss you big cuny. We i love you also much. 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EPISODE 67 -- RANDY LAJOIE PART 3
"Hello my name is Rik Houston and welcome to the scene. Volkov cast your source for all things NASCAR history presented by. Aw maintain excellence yet because racist. We're not the smartest to drive a race car. You know what I think. You gotta be off just a little bit. He was not going to check any click the window build your one. He's I don't need to junior. You know as last asset to the main if I didn't have all my fire suits and stuff up I mean. Customers community had no idea to seek out the a day NASCAR and all associated in any way when asked forget it passed. We don't have any hi. I'm Kyle Busch coach. I want to thank Steve Guede for pigmeat. A win is Sam raceway. I almost did it but I am in the final four. So you're GONNA go there right off off the bat I have got to man. Okay now that being said how are we going to determine our champion in the contest that you and I have wild we just do it like Nascar. Okay we've got our final four all right now. Let's just pick one of those final four to be the champion and leave it at that. Okay okay all right so the gloves are off right off the bat right at the various start of our episode dissuade. Oh it's GonNa be on the way to start. They didn't babe. I'M GONNA make a comeback in this contest. You think so I I am after you've lead Tom. I think you've led all but the very first first week as right that's right and I'm GonNa make my comeback by picking D champion out of the final four picking the champion. Then give you the season title. Oh ooh can taste the raceway grill. Right now Steve this week in our first segment. We're GONNA dive into the third and final part of the extensive interview. I did with Randall. Joy and this week Randi discusses his seating company the joy of seating which kind of revolutionized the story woj of seating joy of saying. Where did he get that? And I've heard of the joy of sex but nevertheless men. You took your pills. He also this morning took your pills. Okay I'M GONNA have to hang on for dear life joy of seating which kind of revolutionized the seats that drivers were using. It was a revolution that needed to be done by the way he also talks about parting. Ways with Evans Motor sports and it wasn't exactly under the greatest of circumstances and also he talks about watching his son Corey Rice today and in our second segment. We're going to talk about the December first and Eighth Nineteen eighty-three issue of grand national scene. Bobby Allison won his first and only Winston Cup Championship Championship at Riverside. But kinda struggled with Tyre problems and then low fuel pressure before salvaging a not the place manage which was good enough that you're yeah to give him the title. Walter is Darryl was the guy chasing girl. Finish sixth rate and Bobby Knight but like you said it was enough bobby to win it. Now just wait till you find out what caused the fuel Bravo and that came in the December eighth. Nineteen eighty-three issue and Steve. Finally we do have new Patriot support from Justin Hargrove. Who will be receiving one of your autograph tracks cards? ABOY JUSTIN SO Steve. We've here's the deal when we talk about the Patriots support when we talk about the pay POW support. It's not just about throwing a few bucks. This is to me about now whether or not the history of NASCAR is worth preserving and that's what you are ultimately trying to do absolutely so if you believe that NASCAR history history should be preserved if you believe that the interviews that were doing and the episodes that we're putting together are worthwhile consider supportiveness join pay pal. Oh and also patriotic and also consider supporting. QR If you work in a office building that is in need of maintenance check out cure because QR is a great program to schedule all the maintenance needs that you have in an office building or whatever kind of work setting you're in queue. Where could help you out so support them? If you you think that NASCAR history is worth preserving so what we've put together on Patriots do five dollars a month. You'll get a commemorative issue Grand National Sane. Also Oh one classic issue and wants to up saying ten dollars a month. You'll get both of those papers and also the St Wade Autograph Tracks car. The man you don't WanNa miss out on. I can't believe we've not already sold out of them. I can but now I'm patriotic. You can support his et patriae dot com slash podcast. Or if you'd rather just do a one time show US support that addresses pay POW dot me slash. The same bought podcast cast in not to ninety eight. You also start the joy of seating as an actual company. How long had you been building your own seats at that point? And how did the business get started started had to start building seats to seek that I used my dad used he bought from Mark Donohue Nineteen seventy-one Mark Donohue. Just come off of his a transam championships. They were switching to javelin from the Camaros And we were. We went to a car show in Hartford Connecticut and my dad looked into car. He's a hall of fame racer and he's like that seat looks comfortable and Marxist sit in it. My Dad sat in it and he said wow. Here's this is nice. He's not so you one because I make them for myself okay. So my dad bought one and it wouldn't fit into the modified so he shortened it up and he cut the headrest off. You know fit in a modified so when I started driving my it uses these things are pretty good. Okay nine hundred ninety four NASCAR says. Hey we're not gonNa let you use five more next year. It was like really so. Oh okay so my very first seat that I built a fiberglass seat that's formed to my body and I took get to Brian Butler. Who was the seat guy in a business and he told me that was a piece of crap to twenty years? You know Jesus is not you know I mean I drive other people's cars that don't have this style seat has yours fuses. This is a whole lot better than your style seat so I picked it up and I was like okay sorry. Rei say it's not a piece of crap. I'm out here so I walked out my neighbor when I moved down south with Steve. Richardson had worked with Brian. He's I help you. We'll build hold one. It took US three weeks. You know to try to get a piece of flat aluminum round. And that's what I had in the Bumgarner card seventy four car Lipton tea car at Rougemont and that was the first time I said. Wow this thing needs a lot of help. Didn't fit right and this and that well I ended ended up getting a guy that was very talented on English wheel. Well he he would English wheel pieces and we pop we while them together inside the seat and then take it out and and that was my seat But I knew that was okay if I get a handful of these things I said this is a lot of work. How do I get this thing? Stamped there there again that same buddy of mine that was in Roger. Hamilton's in Collins's neighborhood I was there one day and I had brought the seat to Dennis Carpenter down here by the speed right. He he does old Ford stampings and stuff his role Randy says I can do what he says. When it's cautious quarter million dollars to get the dies no kid? He says I'm too busy. He's because I really don't WanNa do it. I said okay. So coordinating dollars. I don't WanNa do it either. So back in my buddy's house a guy who worked for Dennis he's got a buddy of mine up in Ohio Ohio. That's a club racer. He does crazy stuff like this. Okay so we Kalma Fan and he's an SEC racer and he used the same style l. seat that Mark Donohue style seat in his Porsche. He's just got done doing the Richard Petty Driving Experience a Kentucky and Dan Black and blue is armed with swords. Ribs were sore. He's like how to. HOW NASCAR guys do it with these type seats? Because he was his seat was pretty comfortable held. Somebody's shoulders and he's a he's you know they need better seats. He's you're right I'll help Ya. He didn't ask for a quarter million dollars. And I'm still you know I probably I two and a half million dollars into the man for twenty years now or buying aluminum. So he did all of that he'd come up with my sizing fixtures. So okay I guess so I gotTa go in business. I really thought everybody were by a comfortable seat. And I'm I got woke up probably ten years later that people want a cheap seat and I know they don't want the best because drivers. I've often said their worst enemies on themselves. I think eight drivers would drive naked with no seats. No belts just to drive something and say to the guy. How fast did I go in a motor skip it? They don't care date Amdo uh-huh seatbelts care. You know I mean. Here's I wanted to safety experts. You could save from being a crash deaths dummy And no one not what to do but we were at Oxford plains. Main Guy Calls me up. Come drivers Racecar Mighty eighty-eight maybe somewhere knows limbo years so I guess I'd drive five hours. Where my helmet bag and the guy? He fired one hundred fifty pounds. I'm not so I opened up opened a seat up as much as I could practice the cars fast I. I've raced against the car. Got Out run by the car. I'm driving estate. I okay I need a seat. While the modifies were there was a nascar. DOUBLEHEADER NASCAR are modified and a NASCAR BUSCH CAR Stroz tour. Well Jimmy Spencer has two cars. I go to Jimmy and his brother. Ed I said I need your backup up seats. I could put it in a guy take it out. Four bolts take it out go put it in. Bush car finished second at Oxford. So I'm taking pictures. The second event to modify it's coming up head. He comes was across the racetrack. Hey the joy get your helmet okay. Well what are we doing. Come on come on come on so I grabbed my home and I'm running back across the track. Hey he says they had enough car so I entered. Did you just make a couple of laps. He says this is our car for tomorrow's brand new so he kinda just shoves me into window net. So I'm putting the belts on and and he's ready to click window and I said Eddie I said it doesn't have a seat in it was they're not gonNA check and he clicked the window net and you're in there with no social nosy nosy now seek. I took it out because I just use it in the other car and I was like here. I am in Jimmy. Spencer was raining modify champion in a brand new troyer. Modified defied eight running about five years. I used to run. Modified sounds like kind of brand new hotter. Motorist thing I say Yes yes this is so cool and not even thinking okay. I put in first. I guess I go on a racetrack and later dropped the green and I think the caution was for Eddie where you sit and all right there in cockpit right down right under floor yeah the modifies. A lot smaller do you. You don't have any belts on put your seat belts are still there bolted to the car so I just sat down on the sheet metal. And they're right right. Nobody checked and I pulled on the racetrack and I think the yellow came out because Eddie was on a racetrack trying to stop me from going. Because that's enough that's enough. Yeah because racers. We're not the smartest to drive a race car. You know what I think you gotta be off just a little bit. How our the seats different than what was already available the shoulder and my my seat Mark Donohue come up with was a molded holded seat to your body? You know which I say you put around plug in a round hole because not many dairy airs square. Okay so would you sit in something a a sitting in around buckets a lot more comfortable now sitting in a square bucket And that's one thing that did fit your hips really good. You know you sat and AH wow. This is nice and but what also didn't have the RIP supports. There was no reports and he just held you. Buy Your shoulders. Well I mean that's all I knew then I would dry weather people's cars. They had no shoulder supports any upper body. Oh my gosh I remember I went to Dover Bob Papa Way wet called me go to over two Drivers Cup a cup car and those limbo years so yeah so I go down there a couple of guys and he had the earnhardt Harry Gant Obasanjo Matthew seat in in the car. Now now I WANNA raise a over would Bush north car so I loved the place that couldn't wait to get there okay so get they're getting Karzai. Okay got a half a seat pretty much. Well I went down to the first corner and I thought I almost fell out the right side window wows I oh the home. My Gosh how to help these guys do this so I ended up qualifying. I put two. I took belts took my belt. And another guy's belt wrapped around on the door bar and up under my armpits so my upper body didn't want to go out the window and then eibar seat from trader. After the Bush. Race and put into into Bobby's Abe's Card to raise them the cup card and I could never figure out. How would you upper body not being held after being held for so long I always held by my my shoulders so my upper body didn't move a whole lot? I just had to worry about my neck and my head but once I got into the other style seats held. Did you buy your ribs. Golly I mean sometimes they were way up high and had down arms up and you always were black and blue and I said how is it man. Oh man this is terrible terrible. I said my seats a whole lot nicer more comfortable and once I did the stampings just a lot stronger. I mean one of my first things I did was invested in a tester because St Peterson from Nascar. He's a friend and go Carter and he would come here might have a beer. You and talk about stuffing and say why don't you test summit is stuff. Okay how do you do that. You know okay. That's easy. You know no problem. So he hooked me up would would would a load cell and put it out of Puerto Power and how. I started pushing Seattle strong network that year. You also fill in for ricky craven at Hendrick motorsports. was there ever a possibility of that. Maybe becoming a full time deal or did you know going into it. It was just going to be a certain number of races. It was nine races. You know I had a great relationship when anheuser busch being a champion So so you need to drive the Budweiser car. Okay it was neat. It was fun But I also I just couldn't understand the mentality. Yeah the team. You know when you have Jeff Gordon winning everything You know and I know we're we're getting ready to go somewhere and Nason well building a new car for Charlotte. I said well build it. Just like Gordon's because he's won every race there in the last three years. I said so. Just build the same type of car and the crew chiefs. I told me that they don't know what the hell we'll be fine. Okay now many times a fifty car you know outrun two twenty four car okay. That's that's fine so I'm filming Guy Additives nine races. I think I did fifty appearances and they were fun with the Budweiser folks with the Budweiser. The girls who would just it was it was good time to be a a male racecar driving beer so I I can see why a Lotta guys wanted to drive the car and ended up year That was Randy Dorton and John Hendrick were running two team Records On his little hiatus. And I said okay we got along wonderfully you know. I mean everything was going good and Ab People. Want me back. Because I think Ricki already said he was gonna go somewheres else so people's Randy we want you to drive this thing next year and you know it. was you know. Corey was seven or eight just started racing baseball and Casey was five so I was like okay. No if I drive to Budweiser car at the end of the year. I probably wouldn't be married because it would be very difficult to control myself so I like you know I I really enjoy my kids I really elite love. My Wife And I was like you know. Boy this is. This is a tough decision here. and I said to myself you know I they said let's you know my dad raced you know but Sunday's was always sort of family and okay you know I finally got to making. Can you push money which wasn't cut money But it was coming from a junkyard. We're still big money What the heck do you need you know why? Why do you need the aggravation you know? I mean especially I had stuff going on trying to get seat business up and go and trying to get that figured out So okay I took a pass nice you know and I already knew I was Gonna go work for fetch you know. And and he's wanting to coolest guys into sport so I was I okay I wanna I wanna what to do this guy for this guy. He's passed on Budweiser. Because you didn't want to get in trouble so naturally you were going to draft for James Finch. I didn't want to get that much. Chaohu switch trouble. You did leave base ace at the end of the ninety eight season. was there a last straw so to speak or was it just time to move on. You know finch came came to me. I think fina said they were pulling out. He's okay you know. We're fund meters paid where we run our course I think they were in it for five five years you know and I said Okay I said what what what are we gonNA do. So bill didn't have a whole lot of good things going didn't seem like And I was still getting paid. Hey dirt fence company said hey you know he shot me price. What he's GonNa pay me and it was double what was making two times to maybe two and a half times? What I was is getting paid? I says okay. Plus a percentage fifty percent. I mean James is the only guy drip before never nickel and dimed driver driver every other owner. I mean they always had a plan a plan. B. Plan C.. It was difficult to to chase the money because NASCAR had a hidden in all these different plans That the that the owners were getting and TV money and this and that well. I mean everybody. I drove for a nickel and dime to you. Don't get that you don't get this. You don't get a percentage of that you don't get a percentage judice or James he take a copy of the check that he good and send you one now is half their matter NASCAR. His name was on that track. You got half of it. And he's the only guy that ever did a nickel and dime MIA and so I really. I enjoyed that. You know And it was was fun. I mean you know being a big fish little pond ain't a bad thing and and a half Sunday's off. Yeah it was it was it was just a little and I seen gene. The dog eat dog world when I did a Budweiser car and I didn't understand a lot of team stuff of one car. That was running so good. Why don't we build another one? How do you describe James? Tell me what it was like to drive for Change Mitch. Because of all the car owners that I ever covered James would a half to be top two or three most colorful. And that's a tactful way of put. Yes how would you describe James. Depending on how many Solo cups he had. Yeah you know I it was just a racer you know he. He understood racing and he did his way. I mean he had the money To do it and do it the way he wanted it done and I met James in the early nineties it was by ninety six. Ninety seven. I just redid. My pickup truck chop the top put a blower lower on. It had put a suspension kit on. It tricked it out bad ass looking truck driver to Daytona. Just get done and I'm sitting there early hours week early so I might have been when I was doing that Iraq stuff go down early in the air and I parked outside the ARCA garage. Would all trucks trailers parts strikes and stuff. So I'm washing my truck because it's brand new. I mean just got redone. It's beautiful finishes next door and his truck with outside the garage and he was there we we added Solo Cup in his hand. And next thing I know I'm as I'm washing my truck birds crapping on. It was like what the Hell I look up. And it's fifty segel's flawed old. James is feeding its food out your Mr Spot. James was a good man I I mean he is. He's he's been good for the sport you know I mean there's there was always something missing in that program. I mean we had the best damn car a lot of times but we didn't have the best pickerel you know. And he there was danger he would spend money on things he wouldn't but they all help you at the end and we just we never held ourselves a whole lot up at road with defense cars. Two thousand you move over and you're driving for a team owned by it. Evans Sevens and a believe Joe Nemechek but that year things really get turned completely upside down the year. Two thousand when we lost Adam. Petty and Kenny Kinney everyone and Tony Roper and there were so many theories about what was going on and what can be done about it. The cars were to Steph. When need head and neck restraints we need soft oft walls when they desperately need that and you were very heavily invested in safety even then with the seat business? What was that Tom for you? I'm glad I made it because I think all of us were were close to hitting something and getting basil neck neck. I mean eighty eight percent of oval track accidents or right front on. That's what were killed. Everybody I it bothers me that the industry into a whole lot until we lost earnhardt. And because there's all the guys lives matter too I I would think And if the push would have been put on you know after we lost the first one you know. I'm not sure we would have lost anymore if NASCAR would have stepped up and said okay. I'll you you drivers you gotTa have a head and neck. I tried one of those devices And didn't like it because it didn't fit benefit me. I had to build the seats different different for that device And nobody knew that you know okay. Put this device on us to fix. Well I know it could hurt you because the learning now we didn't know what we didn't know back then but it's a system that that keeps the guys alive but it's not just one thing so that's in two thousand and one. Everybody knew the systems and the car sucked whether it was belt location. Seats aren't strong enough. You're you you don't have a head and neck on we don't have site supports for our heads. We just didn't know what we didn't know so once that all came out with earnhardt. Ah that man has saved more lives than anybody. I've ever known radio on the other hand. I'm going to play devil's advocate. I actually wrote a manuscript about the two thousand thousand one Daytona. Five hundred in the safety controversies before and after and a lot of people say that NASCAR didn't do a whole lot about safety until after after. Dale got killed to play devil's advocate. Are you going to be the one to go to Dale earnhardt. And tell him that he has to wear a Hans device and he he has to use a certain kind of see I. I'm not going to be the one to tell him so. I think it was very much a time where it was kinda run. What what you Brung? When it came to safety and I don't know it seems like Nascar was between a rock and a hard place literally correct and they had all had to do we get Tony Stewart to where I had an extra you know I mean I think Tony went on a racetrack? Wants without a helmet on because in the rule book it was recommended he had to have one. Didn't let's say you had to or fire suit you know so. I think I remember him getting in a car with no fire suit and a helmet and attempted to go on Strahl data. Okay Yeah Yeah so it made a lot of things change. I mean you don't know what you don't know but when you lose and you have to over guys and and it could have been prevented. I mean with all the information that's out there today. You know. Nobody knew the systems in the cars weren't as good as they could be. You know. Obviously we didn't pay the attention to the F.. One guy's Indycar guys you know. The NASCAR was doing stuff but never quick enough to see Peterson was a wonderful man for the safety industry. I mean Steve was working on stuff. Ninety eight ninety nine. I mean they were working on stuff after Adam and after blaze and after Kenny any and you know they ball was rolling but not that fast in two thousand one it it got ramped up pretty darn quick which thankfully for I mean industry-wide thank you for that Nascar. I mean I hate that we lost. You know one of the best. We had But it was before that five upon it senior and junior had reported at twenty four hour race in those corvettes than they had won their division and that twenty four hours and I was a Pratt and Miller car car I do believe and they had US my seats. I'd built them seats for that car and I see they seem senior Dalcin. who was there talking or outside the garage Raj Practice Day and junior was there and I went over and graduated him on the twenty four hour internet comment? That was so cool. You know nighttime and daylight. How'd you like that seat in that car? Yeah Okay Yeah and I was like man. I was cool. I was comfortable's get out. I said well you know I don't need to talk to junior. You know. Oh the last thing I said to the main was there any kind of sales pitch. was there any kind of you say now about this. This is what it offers you know. No AWW I said. How'd you like that? He was comfortable. It was nice so I should have been enough But that okay. Had you ever talked to him about his seats with no I I would harass them a little bit because he he always called. My Cedar backed up. You're going out in that bathtub. I try it you know. And when when he did he he enjoyed it. And in that Camaro or CORVETTA was. And it's like I said the the systems in place I my neck is not as good as it could be And and I just a lot of. That's just from a lot a lot of wear and tear. I got a scar on my kneecap blew a right front tired Charlotte and I remember. I was going to eat the shift to handle. I remember my head went down as far as I say it was as close to mine does of me busting my face on that shift to handle. Well I was limping around. went to the doctor. Got An X ray doctor says hey look at this and my kneecap who broke my kneecap. And he goes something unique. Hit something and we're looking at it. And it was a heck bolt that broke my kneecap. And that's ought to house on my back sat in a car fourteen inches away from my kneecap was a heck said Bolt. Well Okay now would always twenty years later your body sixty percent fluids go to all these seat test. I go to and the the violence of what your body goes through trying to contain Jello with the belts and they stretch because they stretch and it's it's simply amazing how once I started realizing less movement in the driver's cockpit is a way to go. There's no information out there at all that has yet to meet a see that the occupant in the car that did not move got hurt. So what's that tell you. Don't move much. Don't don't let your body go all over the place and that's the biggest thing I mean you know. The industry is a lot better but still forty percent or drivers at probably aren't safe as they could be and here it is eighteen years after the whole world knows why. And there's still people out there that that's still nineteen eighty-five safety stuff and boy. That's that's I get mad at this. It's pretty funny that you say that. Because after Talladega Dagga I heard a driver who had been one of the big ones. He actually got out of the car. They interviewed him on Maurienne. And he said you know stuff happens on the race track. And I don't think that you can really get hurt one of these cars anymore and Blah Blah Blah Blah. I don't know about that man to safety Rueben target. I I mean well at the NASCAR tracks a you know other than intrusions. You know something's gotTa go bad wrong because the systems in the cars are so much better and walls of so much more softer. They'll solve safer barriers. They take out fifty percent or the jeep. Vote against the body. I mean some of those guys got hit there. You hit those things and those cars off the ground okay. That's a fifty G. Hit what I would have been a hundred G.. Hit if those safer Burger. Weren't there randy. You laughed. Evans Motor Sports Midway through two thousand and three and got fired. Okay well I say it nicely. You got fired and from there on out. I don't know that you ever drove full Tom again. Maybe maybe with one year and a dollar John. That's right yeah yeah. was there ever a point where you made a conscious decision okay. That's it my driving days are in the past and I'm going to concentrate on the seat business or was that something maybe happened as a result of these little bit of both You know what a Delana Harvick came on wasn't donate Delano Leadville as PR girl with the Kleenex. The at Evans. That was a fiasco. I had Kleenex and my pocket. They had come to me and say hey. We want to sponsor you. Where do you WANNA go? I said okay. They they weren't big fans of James So as I okay so look And Joe come up to me. And when they had their program you know there was a partial schedule and always run really good. So I say we're GONNA do two cars. I got at this guy. That's my sponsor I'm GONNA get him to put up the money and we're GONNA go to cars and this and that sounded great. You know it okay. So at Evans and while we we come out and we won Daytona I race we won Daytona happened to Spin Joe Out During the event I I mean just Talladega Raid Daytona Reysen And no he might run second. I don't know but Monday morning morning at the shop and our meeting you know. Here's a brand new race team and the Kleenex people all excited and we go to a team meeting and and you know it was blue number seven car which I drove the Kleenex Garden and a red eighty seven car. which was JOE's and at that meeting? We were all the blue guys were in there. We're we're sitting there. Were all happy. You know. Read guys weren't not so much and Brian. Patty and Joe Nemechek come in and they said That's never gonNA the happen again. You begin us like that. And he turned around and walked out so I look at Wiley Rogers whose crew chief you know her chief. Yeah and I was like what's up with that. I don't know well you know two years ago by three I think and we're at Charlotte one day and and it was always the blue truck into red truck. I never quite worked is as one and we go to Charlotte and I kind of got rumblings. Hell I ended up having a sponsor. Come to me about sponsor and so I brought it to joe well instead of going on our cars he brought in a third car with David Ruderman so they put it on. which I you know what? Let's talk good. You know I'm a team player and I was at a coffee break of a lifetime. I think one eight hundred eight. They had route well Bryan and him. Patty had grown up together while they were trying to spend me out and put Reutemann into Kleenex car. So we go go to Charlotte and then I'm running around there and I'm thirty thousand aboard and I said Guys I. I thought I can't make the single any faster i. It's going as fast as a kid. You Know Kleenex Kleenex guys at air. And this and that well okay. So we'RE GONNA Change Motors Okay Onto Matt. Hey I'm wide open throttle. I'm on a Mat. I you can't go no faster. Well okay so we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA change motorcyle. I'm sitting in the car. I get tools and I get back in the car and I'm taking shift the handles to help you get ready. Truck truck driver motor out of your truck gets back about. He's he's got one from the red truck. Okay so we get one from the red truck one Second quicker went from thirty two. I think V I said. Did I go to driving school. So and then we go to Milwaukee happy hour fast car. I'm GonNa win that thing. We're I'm pumped up or next one. We go green. It ain't even the same race car thing. Don't run runs out of fuel while Brian Pattie was over early in the morning just new carburetor so he didn't do me no favors. I get home and get fired you know just sorta like my Bill Deger's five year contract. I had a three year contract and get a nickel for many of them went to court. They won the court case against Evans. motorsports I think three hundred and eighty five thousand dollars. A man owed me still ain't got a nickel of it and I don't understand that and I was like okay. If I able losses judgment I would probably have to write a check before I walked out of court and ate up spending another day of fifty to seventy five grand trying to get the money it all lawyers like not. Well you know just no. Here's a deal instead of you getting ten percent I'll give you fifty percent. Just give me something. I ain't got Pagano more. None of them will do it so told me I said okay so I dropped that okay. This is done. You know so. Go with frank a couple years later frank combs and he brought in Jim Kelly and dollar General People Wonderful wonderful experience with Jim. Kelly still good friends with demand. Goethe's wow golders golf tournament every year wonderful family two brothers. I mean just really elite really I I was the best part of that operation Was the way dollar. General did things to you know all of their vendors to to make the program groundwork so did that program worked really good for a long time. What is it like for you to watch corey on the race? Track today is different. I mean growing up Within with him growing up and and and with the cars coming out of here we would go to get a trophy where we would go to win when we put that trailer door up man. Well we let that trailer door down load. I WanNa take a trophy. I'll I and we did that. Did that. A lot of corey. I watched a lot of race car. Drivers watched a lot of Jesus growing up my dad. I mean very good ones and watching for not so good. Ones and cory's is as good as I've ever watched and I just this will be a chance because this is difficult. It has to be difficult issues. I would think I would need a therapist because of social media stuff because I mean we've all run twenty fifth and nobody cared. You know what we did. Okay Yeah you're gay. Let's go disco. Try to run twenty-second well. You know the deal that he's in you know it's a thirty second thirty first thirtieth place car at best so okay I. It's very difficult. Call for me to go watch that that the separation of the front guys in the back guys and then when it does any any late runs you know when you get thirty. Forty laps does a cup cars and with all the APPS on your phone nowadays you can keep up with where they're rat and how fast they run at the end right before pitstops. He's using top ten in speed because his car's slowdown. But they just don't go fast. Yeah so everybody else slowdown because I mean his his ears pinned back all day long. He's going fast as he can. And then it's it's I call. It is a core to wake up call because when you go up on a certain cars and you pass them they wake up and they pick up a half a second many drive-by whether it's Austin in dillon tied dylan the front row cars The JT G Cars Palm Menard. His vehicle shouldn't compete with those guys. But here's passing them well and also name wake up and go faster so they're out there riding and of course he's running with his ear spin back as fast as you can go all he can do. So it's it's it's aggravating and one way but yet I mean he's very good at what he does and what kind of game you have to play. His social game is totally different and what he did beginning of this year. What gland in race? Two hundred grand. You Know Camerin his feet. I mean that was insane. I mean he wanted to raise twenty grand you know and he ended up raising two hundred. So it's cool to say you know. Now he's got one in the oven with his wife. She's doing April. And you know you sit back in here. Wonder what kind of world they're going to have fifteen or a kind of feel sorry for my grandkids. Last question. You are a two time Busch series champion on the other hand. You're also a pretty big innovator. When it comes to racing safety and your seats have been in a lot of cars that have been beaten up pretty bad? And I think that they've saved a lot of people from getting hurt pretty substantially which is your legacy. which do you want to be remembered for? It's funny I I mean I get if I didn't have all my fire suits and stuff upfront. I mean customers coming here. They had no idea it was a race car driver. No kid you to seek guy really. Yeah so I was like okay is what I used to do this to you. Know come in. You're like wow we're always trophies come from you know those are all yours. Wow yeah wow. It's it's amazing to see that the younger people that don't don't even know where where I come from an age know me as a seat guide which I've been a voice sometimes. Presentation is totally wrong. But it's also you know I cut through the chase pretty darn quick. The you know if I don't like to do you that you've always sugarcoated everybody ready so but you know it's you always lose more than you win and racing But to be able to win some have a couple of championships on a huge state. I mean okay. He's not the cup level. It's not Formula One indycar but you know what Nascar Busch series second tier is right there and then when I rock event and that was cool and I was a decent racecar driver had a lot of fun you know I tried to treat people the right way As far as business owner Rayson was a lot easier than business. That's for sure. Been Doing Business Stuff about twenty two years and used up all my racing stuff already. More years I'm going to be left in his thing but elect Is cooled to to get thanks. You know when I go somewhere I was out in Nebraska and went through sprint car. Our event and there was a bunch. Sprint cars air and to have you know a handful of guide. Nobody out of the blue. You know they see me on my golf cart. They see me here. They're they're come up as hey thanks for what you do short-trackers because they don't know racers don't know what they don't know and it's simply amazes me when I go there and I start talking to these guys. They have no clue. So where are you guys been fruit eighteen years. Everybody knows that what you sitting in is not correct and instead of years ago I would cost them by a dumb ass. I looked in their car. And it wasn't as safe as it could be. And you dumb ass so now I I lead off. You could be safer Hey listeners this is Eric Quin general manager of q where we are so proud partner with Rick and Steve and the scene vault podcast in order bringing these great shows that you're hearing every single week for over thirty years. 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They're about as stickiest pencils and had no padding whatsoever so one just as zt but as Randi will say his bruce in the seats have made a great difference. They've made a huge difference now. The what kind of what makes rainy seats different. They are designed resigned after the ones that Mark Donohue had run way back when and they seats supported a driver's hips and they supported driver shoulders and that was kind of the first step in putting driver in what amounted to a cocoon. which is what they are in today because learned over the years that when it comes to safety the more rigid and embraced by Satan materials in the car driver is and restricts his movement much better the chances for not sustaining injury you know he made the statement that drivers can sometimes be their own worst enemy? I believe that's absolutely the case. Somebody posted the picture on social media not long ago and it was a photo of the inside a fireball. Roberts is car and of course somebody had to reply that those were the good old days when drivers were real man. There were basically no safety features in the cockpit of fireball Roberts. Car Steve The fact of the matter is fireball are ball sustained what amounted to fatal injuries in a car. Just like the one that was pictured in that photo they might have been real man and those might have been the good old days but we were losing drivers where that stirred. There's one thing we have to mention here. We're talking about real man and so forth and then they were but technology was just not available back then to make cars safer it took innovation and foresight to make this change in. I'm going to go way out on the limb people. People say that Dale Earnhardt was a real man. And you know that because he said that if drivers didn't like how fast they were going they should take care saying rag around their ankles so so answer it and crawl up their legs and bought their candy ass. He did say that he was real man but he was in foot tall and bulletproof right back to the matter. Here is five months after he said that. Steve Del lost his life on the last turn to the last lap of the Daytona. Five hundred where we can talk about real men all we want to add. There's also I've mentioned that. Technology and that technology improved tremendously. After Dale's death. No question about that it. Aw is up and ran the big hand in technology that helped to improve safety diller. EARNHARDT was noted for using a certain type of seat and that was what was. It's called a Banjo Matthews Style and what it amounted to was basically a foam cushion to sit on right and a plane hard back right in. His defense hit walked away from a lot of accidents using that. Very kind of seat right so who was going to tell Dale earnhardt he needs to use arandilla joy seat. Well I bet randy dried he. Did he went to Dale Earnhardt in the garage and was asking Dale how he had locked the see that he had run for the twenty four hours of Daytona a seat that Randy had actually built and Dell said. I really liked it. It was real comfortable and Randy Saul his open in and said Hey. Why don't you let me build you on? They'll said no. No go to Dell junior high mob Anderson and Steve. That was the week before the two thousand and one Daytona five hundred. So you weren't gonNA tell. Dale earnhardt anything about anything that had to do with his race car. He knew what he liked what he wanted and he came up from the old school. He raised the way he taught to rate. And therefore you know a lot of innovations were just downright strange strange to him and that's why wouldn't really touch him. In Randy himself was not immune he said in the late nineteen eighties. He went up to drive at Oxford plains. Lanes up in Maine and Steve. Hey said that hey raised without a dog own. Seek in the car were they. Do that stabilised move onto another subject. Curricula joy won the two thousand one Bush as as an opener at Daytona. He was driving for Evans Motor Sports. That was co owned by Joe nemechek A- and I don't know think turmoil on the team kind of same to follow reindeer for whatever reason say randy sure had had his problems according to randy the Monday after the race they had a team meeting and according to Randy Joe Nemechek and crew chief Brian. Patty walked in and said you'd never going to beat us like that again and then turned around and walked back at kind of harsh new so he kind of mentioned the fact that at that time. His team was sponsored by Kleenex and Joe's was sponsored by cellular one so they called Randy's team the blue truck and they called Joes team the red truck after their sponsors and they were kind of a house. Divided from White Randy sat in there wasn't a whole lot of exchange age of information. And we're going on between the two Randy said that he was running poorly Charlotte. He gets an engine from the red truck and picks up a second on the racetrack back. Then they go to Milwaukee random runs well and practice but not so much during the race. Let's just say that there doesn't seem to be a whole other. Love lost between Randy and crew Chief Brian Pattie at least not on. Randy's part so after that Milwaukee race Rainy was cut loose. And I remember talking. How can drain you about that? And he yeah. He wasn't too happy about that. And finally Steve Randy talked about watching Corey race in Corey is on a tame. Go fast rising. That isn't exactly a front rudder right and I know that has to be pretty tough for randy. Well I'm sure it is but he's not alone. We have seen in many fathers and sons relationships in raising over the years in NASCAR's plutonium too many to mention but not all of them have been that successful. I think right now Core is trying to find his place and hopefully he can get the better team some day and I don't mean to put a team down Dan. I'm just saying where it is right now compared to the heavyweights so I think randy probably enjoys watching his son race and I think that Randy being a father wants his son had the absolute best out there on the track Steve. I asked Grandi what his legacy would be because he was a two time. Busch series champion pin and a three time winner at Daytona in the Busch series and off the top of my head. I don't know of another Bush's regular xfinity series regular who has ever won that many races at Daytona. Now I know that Dale Earnhardt won five straight in the early nineties but as far as being a series regular. I don't know the name by has been able to match that part. Probably not I asked him what his legacy was whether people would remember him. AM as driver or as being one of the sport's leading safety. Innovators and he says that he has people come in all the time. And see in the trophy's all over the place and the uniform informs hanging on the wall in my Bush's hanging in the bathroom. I wish I were kidding about that. But I'm not where Randy's legacy is simple. He is one of NASCAR's best drivers. He is a multiple champion and he is a leader in safety innovation. Stay followed Brian Caleb on instagram and twitter at speedway screens and check out his inventory at speedway T S J dot Ed Dot Com in our first segment. We talked about Randy the joy we talked about Dale Earnhardt in our second segment. Where we're going to be talking about bobby? Allison Darrell Waltrip and again. He's got you covered on all those so follow Brian Caleb on instagram and twitter at speedway screens and check out his inventory at speedway T S J dot Ed Dot Com in December first nineteen eighty three issue of grand national national. Same Bobby Allison goes into the nineteen eighty-three Winston Cup season finale at Riverside Sixty four points ahead of Darrell Waltrip. And all he has to do to to clinch the championship is finished thirteenth or better. Thank you rivers. That'd be a walk in the park. Thank you for four eight Tom that appeared to be easier said than done. He had four cut tires and then he started having fuel pickup problems and eh one point he was running as low as twenty seven. It looked like he was trying to get the championship away. Bobby said in that issue there I was is running so easy at the start of the race and I could feel that I hire going down. I thought Oh no. Why can't it be easy? I'm running fifth. Let it stay that way. Oy Darrell have a great day. He's a great competitor. But it wasn't going to stay that way. It wasn't going to stay that way. It was a flat rear then. I had a flat left after year. Then left and right for I thought to myself I think my eyes side is good but I must be running over something on the race track. Everyone else is missing. I may have point there and that was a cold and rainy. Day and Bill Elliott won the first race of his Winston Cup career. They was in the second in year with meddling raising Harry. Male had bought the family team from George Eliot. You wrote the rice late that day and this is your lead paragraph Ono. Oh no in spite of all the HOOPLA surrounding Bobby Allison's first Nascar Winston Cup Championship today at Riverside International Raceway. No one could forget. Yeah that huckleberry Finn I finally did it Huckleberry Finn That's what we call eighty. Got Kinda Freaky Rickie cat of it till I bet he did he meet. Hey you remember. Years ago that album that the race drivers cut. That's that goes down in history history as well. I don't know what but bill didn't Zingy SORTA chanted but talking about huckleberry Finn. He knew we recalled him that and then he sang quote unquote sang on this album. The following lyric press thinks. I'm country they call me huck fan but if Elton John has company that's the company I'm in are you kidding me. We gotta find that Song. Let's see one of our listeners. Can Dig it up now. Bill had finished second seven times in nineteen eighty to nineteen eighty. Three and people. Were starting to you kind of wonder if and when he was ever GonNa win race and I think that sounds kind of familiar when it comes to chase people were asking the very same thing about chase Elliott until the deal. He wanted Watkins Glen. Bill said I couldn't believe it. Things just went in my favorite today but I've had many race in the past where they went against me when I a pass. Benny Parsons I knew. I had to run as hard as I can go tim. Richmond was back in the race and he came alongside Benny trying to pass him. They touched hard hard out of the not the turn and that gave me a little edge in the chance to put some room between us but I was still concerned. It was getting very close on gas. We weren't getting as good a gas mileage as some of the others. In fact I ran out before my first pitstop in the race and I could see it happening again in the ninth. Turn earn at the end in every bypassing me I told Ernie Elliott his brother on the radio for him and the cost appraise that I could finish the last lap where he did finish the last lap. He did win the race. And that was the start of something real good for bill and Nascar people kind of let the whole fuel pick up problem for Bobby Allison Cassatt there. There wasn't any kind of mentioned of anything unwieldy going on in this issue but they December December eighth issue of Grand National Saint Carried News of what had apparently happened to cause the fuel pressure issue. A residue of sugar sugar sugar was discovered in. Bobby's fuel sale eight days after the race as the car was being torn down now. What happened was dig- guard made the discovery of the sugar over eight days later and they contacted Dick Beattie the Winston Cup director who flew to Charlotte and check that out himself and he agreed there? It was a residue of sugar in the car. Now how did that. That is a good question. Gary Nelson was the crew chief for daugaard racing at the time. He said we wanted to keep this quiet. We agreed with NASCAR that it would probably be easier to find out who did it if we kept quiet in NASCAR right right and this was before social media right you still weren't gonNA keep sacred. That was a well known adage. There are no secrets in Nasr car. Well Gary continued but there are no secrets in stock car racing so he got out and it with DWI and junior Johnson. Breathing down the necks of bobby and his daugaard racing team. There were some who speculated that somebody connected with a day W in junior had something to do with the sabotage but bobby said knowing the teams on the way I do. I don't believe any of them would be involved in such a thing really. I believe it was some overzealous fan. Who got carried away other other than that? There's not a whole lot can say I guess NASCAR will take steps to see that it never happens again now. Dwi Darrell Waltrip okay. This is classic go ahead. Dwi Response to the sugar in the gas tank. I only use sweet and low. I do I believe it. He and junior had nothing to do with any sugar in the gas tat. If junior and Darryl had wanted to do something to Die Guard car I think it would have been a lot worse than that to be honest with you but no. I don't think they had anything to do it. I do believe Bobby was being very gracious. Dragged into the whole thing because after all he is the champion he did win the championship. Now take a guess at how he would responded if that sugar sugar had messed up the fuel pressure to the point that we lost a couldn't finish the race lost JAE MPG. What do you think he'd be saying? Oh Hail would have been rain down on Daytona. Bobby did the right thing Steve Again. I think it's kind of fascinating that this story about the sugar. In Bobby Allison's gas tank ran on page twelve of the December eighth nineteen ninety-three issue and it was kind of buried behind news from the banquet columns letters to the editor. That was the reason for that. Might not have been a very good okay but the reason was nothing could be proved all right even after bobby made his remark and after Gary said They found it and that the Beta said yes. It was there. You're nobody could proceed with anything more about the issue because nobody could proving thing what's proof got to do with a good story. They never let story. I just thought that was so interesting that it was buried so far back in that kind of reminds me of the story on decay. orix not as oxide bottle because it was buried to happen with facebook and twitter being what they are. Oh Yeah Yeah ours. NASCAR FANS are concerned. They would burn it up. That was my point about it being buried in the newspaper if that happened today. Oh my goodness yeah. It would shut twitter down. That's all there is to it Steve. I asked on twitter for some theories. About how the sugar got. and Bobby's fuel sale and actually got quite a few replies at T- underscore three three three three. Tim The toolman tailor and just in hall at Justin. Tom Hall Bo. Oh said that whatever happened it. May Bobby's championship that much. Sweeter and then Steve. I added my two cents and said DEF LEPPARD had put it there. Oh yeah that Song pour some sugar romay. Yes Ladies and gentlemen I just apologize for what you just heard now. I'm going to tell another story on myself. My favorite workout is to hit the punching back at the Y.. And when I do it I listened to eighties metal songs on my earphones earphones now. I have this habit sometimes of hitting the pungent bag and starting to sing along and you know when I started saying pour some sugar on me and the little old ladies are walking around the walking track. I guess some funny looks sometime. I guarantee you get funny. Looks when you don't asking now that being said the thing that I love about social media sometimes is that people do bring up some really good points and that was the case with Brandon Johnston at four zero underscore twenty-seven he mentioned a previous incident in which bobby's car could have been sabotaged in the the June. Eleventh Nineteen eighty-one Grand National Sane. It was reported that a rag was found stuffed into the vet mine of Bobby's rainier racing car. During the June in West Cup race at Texas World Speedway yes. So I'm noticing a little bit of a pattern here. The Van Allowed airtight escape from the fuel sale. L. As fuel was being added and if there had no place to go because of the rag man stuffed and dement line it was difficult if not impossible I guess Oh okay. Now what. L. Wilson was his crew chief at the time and he said in the issue he said that he would rather have believed that it was just a mistake. Yeah on somebody's part. He said maybe somebody saw gas leaking at and wanted to help us. That's what I want to believe. Well in all honesty it probably right Steve. Here are two instances. Certainly the Shuker is not supposed to be there. That would seem to be a deliberate attempt on. Somebody's somebody's part to hinder. Bobby Allison in some way shape form or fashion now. The ragging vent line at Texas I can see that being more of a mistake on maybe crew members part but I would assume that a crew member would have fessed up at some point because bobby did go on to finish third in race after they blew the vent line out. Thanks so that didn't harm him as much as what. It would seem like the sugar did but I don't know I just have a really hard time figuring out how that actually happened happened. All jokes aside all junior Johnson jokes Saad darrow offer so eating low jokes aside. How did it happen? How did the sugar get in the fuel L. D. thing? I have no idea to this day. I don't have any idea and like you said how could it be done and speaking of a wayward fan in who wanted to have a shot at keeping by win the championship. I don't know the average family have any idea of how to get that sugar in there. Now Steve in the December eighth issue of grand national saying that year there were a couple of photos from the banquet photo spread. That kinda stuck out to me. Dale earnhardt without a moustache are. Oh how `bout that Ha and also decay oric and Diane Sawyer showed up dressed s something out of the mid eighteen hundreds decay in stovepipe hat pantaloons and a short riding coat and then Diane was complete in a Scarlett Orla. O'Hara hoop skirt. Well that doesn't surprise me and all about decay you know talking about the nineteen eighty-three banquet which is held in New York at the Waldorf. Press store as you know several years later Baba's volved in that terrible accident on the first half of the race at Pocono and it really severely injured him. I'm to the point. We had to go through much rehab. Not only physically but also mentally because his memory at all but disappeared appeared and it had to be re taught certain things and one of the things that helped him as he told me Not long after this happened. I think I know what you're effects on. The cover of grand national illustrated the magazine. That was a sister publication to scene and he was on the cover standing out front around the Waldorf decide his race car and he looked at that cover and he said Oh yeah. I remember that I won the championship that year. That was the first thing he remembered about his NASCAR. We're we're looking at that cover village straight. Hey this is Buckshot Jones and you're listening to the same boat. PODCAST RICHT paperbacks backs can be a bitch no okay Steve. I was in such desperate Straits last week in this championship contest of ours that I had you pick my pick right for Phoenix. Last week you picked joining the Gano and he finished not and lead twice for a total of ninety three laps. And Your Guy Cowboy Cow Bush. Your obeyed Taymor finished second foot. I thought you might like he did finish. Second to teammate. Dany Dany Hamlin to teammate denny. Hamlin cowboys for anybody. Come on long story short. He made or not long stories short. You lead by forty four points in the current system and in Winston Cup standings. You're up ninety three points three points in the old system Yes system now. I did see somebody mentioned. The fact that on racing reference they actually keep a running total non-playoffs and everything and if we didn't have the playoff system in place going into the last race with the points that they pay out now on the stage points and all that there would be five drivers going into homestead separated thirty some odd points at pretty interesting ads. That's that one K.. Banished with you and I are GonNa determine our championship by whoever finishes better in the top. Four right right. It's sort of a winner-take-all between is now okay. So you've got four guys so is it going to be Nascar Hall of fame or Raceway Grill. Yeah I know what you if it's the hall of fame me. I'm the winner if it's the hall of fame that's where Rick has to go through the hall of fame. We're a huge stack of dollar commemorative issues of scene and stand by my exhibit. Your exhibit and those types is away as long as they last now. If Rick wins the race way grill is GonNa be great by our presence and at the raceway grill in Darlington. I have to give away commemorative issues of seen the agent. Every person that comes in you have have to get to. There's a difference there buddy too. Okay okay now here's a situation atop for Denny Hamlin Kevin Harvick Martin direct junior cow Bush. Hey three of those guys off from Joe Gibbs racing. He's got seventy five percent of the field. The odds are forward to give voice. Yes so who. Are you going to take well. I'm giving you first. Pick another situation is all for the guys have won at homestead all day makes it tough. Okay all right. So who you GonNa take I'm saying Denny Hamlin it's GonNa win the championship. Okay I'M GONNA go with Martin true ex junior to pretty good pick sound gonna go with Martin Tricks Junior. Okay sounds good. Okay we're GONNA see come on MTV. Jay Come on Danny Amy. I'm from Virginia. Just like you