17 Burst results for "Dan Wilson"

"dan wilson" Discussed on The Sean Salisbury Show

The Sean Salisbury Show

02:24 min | 4 months ago

"dan wilson" Discussed on The Sean Salisbury Show

"Thing they got to believe in you. I believe when they come out of in this. That cat can step out in front. He's good i do. I'm a fan one about success. I just hope ran two or three injuries on the offense side of the ball. That could mean for him. I want him because he's never going to carry a team but he is sure as hell isn't going to get you crushed. And that's a good thing. Got caretaker for this sort of situation and mature enough to compartmentalize as reading about this last week. How do you handle this sean sean. You know he's more talented than you more accomplished and richer than you and your friends but you know he's got his problems with the organization and they're saying to you. Hey we're signing you and if you get all this playtime stuff you could make up to twelve and a half million well. Guess what for tyrod taylor. That's incredible it's a great opportunity. And you do it. Where you're still friends with sean. But you do. You're not compete against the sean. You're compete to just helping the team win. That's exactly your standard As they say. Run your own race. Yep yep right. And he went like danny green told me we'll go to break. Thanks dan wilson is at danny green. Told me said this. Before when i was in that situation and you get to start. Who said drive the bus man. And i know it sounds so it but i've said it before drive. The bus meeting gives they're safe. And tyrod taylor is one of the best in the league at being the backup guy step in and drive and get you there safely and i think he's sneaky better than people may give him credit for when it comes to skill skillset he really he just protects the ball and isn't a. Isn't it a chance taker. Like some people love. But i couldn't be rooting for him. More and great stuff man. Thank you we'll do it again. Headed up to practice. Yeah headed to enjoy yourself. We always appreciate the great insight. Sportstalk seventy heavy tea or into club on a friday. The great aaron wilson gives you stuff. You ain't getting anywhere else. I promise.

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"dan wilson" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman

The Moment with Brian Koppelman

01:51 min | 6 months ago

"dan wilson" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman

"Relief from i. That's my bargain. That's the thing i'm doing. And i and that's enjoyable trying to control. The outcomes of the world is is the opposite of enjoyable suffering. It's literally suffering but having that exchange with people through your art is is joy. It is joy and i'll tell you man getting to know you as a joyous thing for me to and let's do this podcast. Let's podcast again together. Because we could geek out on so much music stuff. Yeah you know like eight years ago. I think i said to you. We should have a podcast together. But now i feel that he'd been more strongly where we could just bullshit about music bullshit with the best. Of course you know. Yup no doubt about it. Hey everybody you can. You can find an wilson online. He's on all the social media's but the tiktok superfund get over there listen to listen listen. music Are you going to work on a semi sonic album. Well we've got the ep from last year. You're not alone and that that you know that song a lot of love on the radio. And i've tried i've done expectedly so and i've got maybe eight real good new songs that the band could try to cut and i love seeing them. I love hanging out with them so pretty sure. We're going to try to make either another ep. Or maybe two more. Ep's or something like that are you know are put is definitely one song that would fit. Great bro. I know that one too. That's a good one. That's a banger. Yeah it really is all right. Thanks dan take care of yourself. Bryan all right everybody. I'm brian koppelman. You can find me on twitter or you can email me. The moment decay at gmail.com but don't semi song ideas are script ideas. Those go right in the garbage. Alright thanks everyone take care bye..

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"dan wilson" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman

The Moment with Brian Koppelman

05:54 min | 6 months ago

"dan wilson" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman

"When i was sort of getting going in music i was i i. I was frustrated. That i that my creative method or my creative self. Couldn't make the outcomes that i knew i needed to make really be great so i was mad at myself a lot for that so mad so mad and then When i felt like. I was getting a handle on that and things that i was making. Were actually good. I started sort of mad at the world for not like giving me a shot for a long time. I tweeted the record label band business as a huge trick to get people to pay for studio time for me. That's that's a whole other era. But i needed someone to pay for you know a month and a half at studio and i never thought about like fame and fortune. I literally was greedy for studio time. And i would always feel like i had hoodwinked an another label into paying for a bunch of studio time and that was my scam. I was running but then there was a certain point where i didn't really feel that kind of when semi sonic kind of fell apart. I was sad and kinda bummed out for a bunch of reasons. I missed touring with the guys and stuff. But i didn't have that rage. That i that i had for those other reasons. And when adele's twenty one came out and first of all someone like you wasn't going to be a single or at least it wasn't me the first single but then it accidentally became a huge hit in the uk. Then it became the kind of like. Well i guess we must put it out in the us and it became this sort of like almost like the label had been hoping to release it later so she could rock more first and then be sad and the song just like you know just like elbowed aside all the planning right then throughout that period of maybe like six months while it was like rising up the charts. I felt glimmerings of that. And i hate to say it of that old rage and anxiety like this could end at any moment. The label pull the plug on it. Because it's too wimpy was never intended to be a single. What's going to happen like no one's going to recognize. What a great song. It is blah blah like all these responses that now. In retrospect are so dumb. But i really felt like i was filled with that kind of this could fall about at any moment and so that whole period when it was rising up the charts. I did not enjoy. And that's so sad but it's life and then when it got turned into a joke on saturday night live. The song basically makes everyone cried. No matter who they are. I i i kind of it was like somebody had done like a chiropractic adjustment on my brain. This is hilarious. I just need to enjoy. How absurd this whole thing is just so hilarious and i really got into more of a mindset of like you can't control things like like sony took someone like you off of the slate for Song of the year for the grammy's because they didn't want song of the you're competing with Rolling in the deep and they wanted something banging to be her calling card so they had so they took someone like you out of those categories. And at first i was like all right. You know like so mad you know but then the even that slowly turned into like okay. This is just all so absurd. You know and then i would have been enraged. I never have let that. I would have been so angry about that. All my god. You're later everyone's like a friend of mine was like how does it feel winning Song of the year twice and i was like i want at once with the chicks and it was great but only one at the one time and they're like come on man someone like you is song of the year and i said no no it was. It wasn't up to got taken off the slate. Because they didn't want her to split their vote was did win the grammy didn't you for of the year didn't you share. I'm not complaining. i'm just saying. I'm just saying this friend of mine said i said no. No actually it. It sounds like you didn't win song of the year and my friend goes. It didn't win. It didn't win the real song of the year but one the the moral song of the year and to me the absurdity of that was like oh i can just. I can just laugh about all that. Now it's funny. That's like a year to get that anxiety to go away and have it be fun. Well and the next time we do this. And i'll i'll have you back for a partout because for different reasons. I'm sure when closing time became a hit because of different things in your personal life that was had bittersweet elements to it also And so you haven't really got to have just an unadulterated time of joy with this. I water you. Need one more massive. Hit if if there's such a thing in life as an unadulterated joyful experience of a massive hit i suppose. I'd love to have that. But honestly i don't know if i mean. There's a great quote from george harrison. Who and i'm paraphrasing The fans gave us there. I what are they say in england like the ten quid or fifteen quick anyway. The fans gave us their fifteen bucks but we gave them our nervous systems. That's right and i feel like hey That's the deal. And and if i can turn a kind of a complex psychology that's been challenging to you know work with in my own brain into music that people like cry over and like feel catharsis from and rock out to you know..

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"dan wilson" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman

The Moment with Brian Koppelman

07:42 min | 6 months ago

"dan wilson" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman

"And i wrote she had a bunch of the first i done and we got it to the point where we had a i. I a chorus a sword. A terrible second verse that lost. Its way i thought kinda terribly. There's more about that and then a second chorus and then it was over And actually ended with the sort of our peggie. Oh that i played. That was just like a series. Of course that was unclear what it was but then then the the demo ended so right. We sent it i we sent me and adele. Mp of them and we left and then the next day when we got back together. I said so. What do you wanna do. You wanna write something new or should we work on the thing we worked on yesterday and like i didn't even know i was like can't understand this. No word of this. We're gonna finish. Are we going to finish that or not. I'm just really agnostic. It's up to them. I don't want to write something that they're not interested in. I'm like i'm like very home. Go that night and like say to your wife like that. I just paid for our next. Two houses are like holy shit. I just fucking like like forgetting that joking about that but like there is that you didn't go home and go. I think something crazy. Just i'm pretty sure i went home. we deny our two girls were were renting a house in los angeles. And i'm pretty sure. I went home and said i had a great day. I can't wait for tomorrow. That's great so the second day we got together. And and i said you wanna work on that or something else and and she said oh we have to finish that song and i said oh really why she goes because i played it for my manager and my mom and i was bummed because i hate it when people here because all i could think of was like the second i was so terrible. The second i wasn't right. So so so. Adele goes a plate of for my managing me. Mom and i was like oh no And i said well what did they say and she said. My manager loved it and my mom cried so i was like okay all right. Let's finish this. I have to say. I was half right and half wrong about the second i because the second verse was half of the second verse and the bridge very uneasily squashed together and actually all ended up in the song. The different unday is like i think we need to turn that second half of the second person to the bridge and then also i. Can you sing the choruses again. 'cause your voice sounds rougher today and more emotional and we can you just sing the chorus more time and also can you try some higher notes which she's always been mattie about because i i made a saying these higher notes that she thinks sound too difficult or imperfect that's her imperfection and so we did that. We did the courses again. We fixed the second verse. We use the second half of that bad second verse for bridge. That all worked out great. We left the weird ending. 'cause it's all a demo and i got it a sing the high notes in the choruses by saying i know you don't like i know you think they're like you know the to crack crackly sounding the They don't they. Don't show you off in the way you want to be just a demo demo so let's just use it and then like four months later no one ever says anything you send a song to label an artist. You never say a word. They never go. We hate you or like this is greater. we're using it. Whatever four months later. So i got this sort of desperate message. Columbia needs the the parts for the demo. And i i think my manager. Jim told me. Do you have the parts for the demo. of course i do. It's four tracks right okay. I'll i'll i'll put them in a you know we transfer senator or whatever it was at the time and then they then they reveal to us. Oh we're going to use this for the record. So did they just mix your tracks. That's the record. Yeah that's how you came to produce adele wasn't that you were hired to produce adele. You were just co writing a song. And then they just use the record i don. I are credited as producing that together. but i did. What a producer would do if they were told to make the greatest piano vocal record. Evidence of course and tortured her on the vocal. And she didn't want to get credit for torturing her and oh that's producing the volume of course so she never sang again. Okay i'll tell you something else to do. More things one about the mix yet. I had the hilarious conversation with tom. Elmhurst at that grammy night. And i said he's the one who mixed the songs on that record on on twenty one and he. I said well you did a great job on that album and he was a little. We're all a little bit loopy at that point and i said he said well your song is the is the best one and i said. Well that's it was probably the easiest mix you had and he said oh yeah took me forty five minute. forty-five minutes. Most of it was weeping. Oh my god. That's fantastic. And i was like. What did you do the rest of the day. 'cause i just listened to mozart for the rest of the day and waited for them to sender comments waiting for them right comments. How disciplined in beautiful is that though that he just fucking like sound sound levels and just left the whole thing in itself then he said oh he did add one more thing he said actually he said to be honest. I hated the reverse that you had. So i changed that a little bit. That's i mean that's that's that's so when you then heard it on the radio like i always want to know this because as you say when it's yourself you actually can never see it. I can never see the work. The way that i can't i i can't see anything. I'd do the way that you see what i do. It doesn't work but like when you heard that record. I did you know and then as it start like what did it feel like to you because the second time through something i will say like i hear so i relate to this like david and our first movie. We had no idea right. You make your first movie. We get lucky. This credible cast movie comes out. It just does okay but then it becomes this thing that people love and it becomes this huge whatever it gives us all career and for a long time. You're kind of known for that thing. And then all these years later this other big thing happened for us with the show and like it changed much. We like when when the adult and you'd had other big successes but nobody's had any success like twenty one like closing time as big as it was and is wasn't in the culture what twenty one was in the culture What did that feel like to you and did it feel sweet in a different way. Not well. I've only kind of come to terms of this this year. Just in a retrospective way.

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"dan wilson" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman

The Moment with Brian Koppelman

05:24 min | 6 months ago

"dan wilson" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman

"In when she opened her mouth. Could you tell. I'm in the room with someone. Incredibly special well i had already been a fan because of chasing pavements and hometown glory. I already knew she was amazing. And i already knew. She was amazing and quirky. Like the like. I thought that was really interesting that she had had hits. That were quirky. And i don't say that lately When we got together we kind of shot the breeze for quite a while like she and she made me laugh and laugh. She was so funny. What puts you together. How did it happen. you know. it's funny because it was like an effort. It was like a music business effort for a while to get us together and nothing came of it the before. The huge hits you'd written were closing time. And the dixie chicks not ready to make nice and all the songs on the dixie chicks taken a long way those were like sort of like the huge things you you've done right right right and basically i. I had said to the people that i work with. You know that. I'm a fan of hers. And then there was some effort to get together and it never worked. Then rick rubin Got hired on as the like producer executive producer of this album and then he started bugging us to get together. And i think we had a session that got cancelled and then rick very gently kind of really think. I really think you'd along great. You know like he just like he really kind of gently. He's like a kind of a gentle bulldozer. And so when we got together it was because of him and actually there's something about that which is very positive. Which is when someone that you know is a timeless genius has told you this that you guys need to meet each other and collaborate. You already have a crazy level of confidence. This is going to be mazing. Because he said so right he would also tell you that your studio needs to be a different shade of the wall needs to be a different shade of cream colored white. Then what you've got or whatever he would tell you anything that and it'd be right every time so we went into it without feeling but then the first whole bunch of time was just like just shooting the breeze and she made me laugh and laugh and i didn't really took us like an hour. At least maybe more to get down to china and then she showed me a few recordings and a couple of unfinished things and then we went out to the piano and guitar and she showed me a couple of very simple ideas and it was almost like mid day when we started to do takes we were working on someone like she played me the idea for someone like you. Those i like three or four lines and she played me. The idea for rumor has it and did she have the courts some no she she she. She plays with one finger on a base moving. The one finger up and down to play the notes. And it's tells i want so. She's just playing the notes that she singing based well. She likes the her pattern at the time when we were working. Her main her goto pattern on the base was the the low note on the lowest string bass and then she'd kind of our page eight on the other strings but they were not. I mean they weren't always in the cord. It was just like dong dong dong and but the bottom note was always the right note and she knew she'd you know figure it out. She was willing to sketch you know so she sure she'll she'll be rumor. Has it like many a bunch of like the scenario in the funny story and the iron ironically funny. The twist of rumor has achieved definitely had that like the she had the the script outline of that finished and then she played me the first four lines. If someone like you. And i and i was telling me about you and she told me the story and i said okay i think rumor has it is going to be an amazing song but i. I don't do funny songs very well. So i don't think we should work on that. I think we should work on the sad ballad. So we so. We really weren't singing ideas back and forth to each other until mid-afternoon several hours gone by. And then you start working on someone like you and then we started working on and when you write that song. Did you finish the song that day. No we got. We got it to the point. Where it where i had played the piano part and i had this idea that it should slow down and speed up but i wanted it to be with a click track so phil l. In the engineer and i kind of played and then altered the click track can play it again and then alter the click track until the speeding up and slowing down. It was pretty subtle but we got it so that all sped up and slowed down a little bit so that the piano kind of. I always feel like if you have one instrument in your demo you wanted to indicate orchestral reality even if or you know make you make the listener imagine an orchestra so we got it. All kind of brilliant moving up and down in speed and we got the piano. Pretty much done and then.

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"dan wilson" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman

The Moment with Brian Koppelman

07:14 min | 6 months ago

"dan wilson" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman

"Dan as a craftsperson to be able to. No yes no yes. Okay that's worth chasing down. You know there's one moment. When i suggested something in you It was a song title of a these characters in the song we're thinking of and you're like that's close but what's something else and i said the other thing we're supposed to new immediately. Well that's exactly what it should be right and it just made no. There was no reason why we were both like yes. That's the thing like a smell test. It is just an instant thing. That always happened for you. Did you have to home and work on it. I'd say maybe. I i think i had the certainty always but i was wrong a lot before i had to. I had to hone my rightness. But i always fuckin- thought it was right right but that's different. That's totally different in terms of then actually being able to get to that center place where you're not reacting out of anything other than directness. What whatever that tuning. Think lynch in that book my favorite thing in that book. If you haven't read people catching the big fish you should is when he talked about working with composer. Because anytime you're working with someone has a technical expertise you don't exactly have it can be really intimidating for you and he talks about bodily a and finally lynch just body lamented play go. I just don't think it sounds exactly the way. I was thinking of a more purplish thing. And then he says angela and he'll just sort of say the most random shit. Just say this. Isn't it yet and dangelo back. The fake and then he comes back with some other thing and i loved that as a way of hits lynch's total lack of fear for being judged creative. People often are so scared of being judged wanting are being fraudulent and lynch. Doesn't give a fuck it all meaningless to him. It seems i mean he's wonderful case because like he knows. I gonna use judgmental terms. It's not really. He knows that you know the emotions or impulses that he's portraying or or like a rendering are. Are you know atrocious Or you know alarming or or or you know laid in with shame or hateful or whatever and he doesn't i mean he's he's basically willing to put it all up there because he because he knows that we have those thoughts to like. Nobody has any standing to be annoyed at david lynch movies if they've ever had a dream in their life or if they've ever been so mad they could you know. Wanna kill somebody like that that you can't judge it but it's still the rest of us do fear judgment in that in that way and it's only rare person that has you know i love. I love the idea that he would say to. His composer like it needs to be more purple or is not quite right. One of my great experiences and music was very extended. Stretch of years with rick rubin. Where rick would use his tricks on like You know the bridge The bridge goes down and settles down the bridge of the song go moves downward and settles down but maybe a version where it moves upward and goes wild would be better and i would say to rick. Well okay like. How do you have any idea how that would be accomplished. And he go. I don't know right. And then he like. I'd be off like okay all right that now. I know this mysterious purplish necess- now and i'm going to try to do now. Rick is unbelievably for. I mean i. He's so fucking brilliant. I mean. I think i might have told you this when we were having a resume writing sessions but he basically figured out how i should do this podcast from emissions. Because i was doing it. I was doing the podcast. I only my rule was only in person. I would never do it. Distance to the room in or i can't get to you. I'm not doing it. The persecution but when kobe happened i said all right it. I'll do it just over the internet. But i didn't zoom with people because i was like all right i'll just listen and then rick called me up. We were gonna podcast together and he said hey i think we should do is zoom and you should see. We should see each other and i said why and he said well. Look i just wanted to be the best podcast for you. But don't you think if you're looking at my face and i'm looking at your face and the opportunity to really have a conversation. It's your podcast. We'll i'll do it either way but and of course he just produced my thing and made it so much better. Because that's just here's the balls to fucking just saving thing and follow his instincts and i've done it this way ever since is so much better. Yeah yeah yeah. That's certain people. I think certain people have that. I mean like joked about but i'm serious. I thought i was right and it was very handy in getting things done for a long time. But i wasn't right for quite a while. I just thought i was but then eventually actually i was right. I got to the point. Where like if i like. Version a better than version b. We all ought to just trust that. I don't know let's just trust. I completely understand you know but but it's not it's not going to go to the mat over a over a versus be. I don't care that much. But that's one thing that rick has like and i think he had it when he was sixteen as better than by the way that works within your thing like i know within the world of the stuff that dave do our voice our thing. That's exactly right. If there are two possible ideas for a billion. Seen if david and i think it should be a it's fucking should know that on the other hand then you can skip the discussion. You don't have to talk. You can just go to that. S yes exactly right just but on the other hand like if if if you're going to write a song with getty lee for rush geddy in order to replace. Neil decided he wanted dan to write a bunch of words. Your wouldn't you would know this is good or this is not as good but if you were in a room with getting alex getting alex would know which version was the rush song. Yeah yeah yeah right. And and that's the fascinating thing which leads me to like when you work with an artist like adele. Can you talk a little bit about. I know you can't with taylor. How do you know that. But i never said you know. Because i'm the world you've never told any of those stories. Okay thank you really clear that you've never mentioned other than that. You wrote a song with her. She's got to be a risky going No but with adele okay. Let's say okay. let's say. What is that process like. First of all i. here's a question. Did you know.

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"dan wilson" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman

The Moment with Brian Koppelman

06:14 min | 6 months ago

"dan wilson" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman

"Realized. Oh there's nothing really exotic about that metal musicians brain in any way. I'm i'm very close to that. I had my metal reaction to their metal. Music is metal reaction. It's not fake metal reaction and it's the same here when i hear about like some famous person digging some song that i did. I used to think when i was a kid that like famous people had a whole different menu of the arts that they would you know pick from like a whole different like it always be amazing that they would listen to the same records as me but that's the way it is. Everyone is picking from the same pool. Yeah i wanna. I need to think about this. I've spent a lotta time around metal musicians. Bution obviously no no. I'm saying i've spent a lot of time around the also. An and i and i think we could probably thin slice this because there's way that lips for manville and you are seeing any music the same way. You're just not seeing things the same way. I'm pretty confident about that. But i would say like. I guess what i'm talking about is the mystery part of this. Dan which is something. Jacob dylan and i were talking about the other day. And jacob was talking about why he doesn't like co writing and he was saying with more than one of our the person really and he was saying because to him. And he's one of my favorite song renders ever and he was saying to him. You know twelve words might pop into his head that he barely understands idiosyncratic and that he'll make a song out of that that's the expression only he could have in that moment and that is the thing he wants to be engaging with and living or dying by and if i think about somebody i think both of us like Think about a song like Not not jake's. But like like a walk on the ocean by glen phillips code. Glenn literally glenn francis glenn was seventeen bo. I was probably twenty years old. When i was twenty one walking near my favorite songs ever. I've spent hundreds and hundreds of hours of my life. I've never asked him. What is the actual story. I've i could. He would tell me he would tell me every single thing that made him write that song and it would ruin the song for me. Do you know what i mean. I i have this idea about what that thing that happened. When these people met and went their separate ways was. And i don't wanna i don't wanna know more than i don't wanna be disabused and for me that's the magic in this thing. In a way i think maybe also it depends like where there's always gonna be some portion of the process where you're plugging into something that you definitely don't understand yourself and you might be making a sound or thinking of a phrase of lyrics. You're talking about jacob that even you can't understand and there is i think people are pretty wise to revere that and respect it and not mess with or Diffuse that sense magic. But i think some musicians are some musicians can find it closer to their practice. Some musicians can start to play their instrument and instantly. Something mystical happens for them others. I like me. I i only get to that mystical. What the just happened. Kind of moment in my music music at almost like random times. A lot of the time i'm going. Yeah this is working. But it's not that thing. And i it's not even like a constant sort of self. Yeah self criticism. It's not a bummer. Can when i've liked when i've like in in ca- catching the big fish by dave. My favorite bucks. He talks about how he i think. He says he feels like he drops through the floor. When he's like meditating. And i think if i'm like playing an instrument or doing some music or thinking of words with somebody or or alone there are those moments where i feel like i just dropped through the floor and like other world but i do feel like some people keep that mystery close to them so that like they don't even want to talk about what they're doing in any way because they're they either jump into it entirely are they're out. That must be hard life itself. I don't know but i'm not like that. I have to get there. And then when i'm in there i'm like this is life. This is what it means. But i instantly go. I agree. I always describe it as that. Feeling of being hyper present and barely tethered to the earth. Seem nine and it's hard to happen. And then jacob did say then you have the choice. He said you know once you have those twelve words in this particular order then. You can rewrite as much as you want you can. If you're a craftsperson go ahead and buddies like but at least it's always going to have been your thing on the other hand. It seems to me you enjoy this process of co writing writing with other people that you get something. I love the process of writing with you. Obviously you're a master at this. And i'm much less experience. But the watching you cycled through ideas reject the stuff that didn't work really grab onto the stuff that did was fascinating. I could see when it like lit you up. You know and and when it like you're saying it wasn't quite right modern leaders. It's not just their ability to reason we value or their eloquence..

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"dan wilson" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman

The Moment with Brian Koppelman

06:12 min | 6 months ago

"dan wilson" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman

"You want to express and then the thing that gets expressed when there's a big gap it's really fucking painful but it also. I find that even in the work that we do that works. That works for the For an audience and that we know we've for moments in it touch the thing. It's so rare even for the working. We both been at this for twenty five years in our respective fields. Yeah don't you find. They're still sometimes this huge gulf between what you want it to be and what it look the feeling the hope and then just the work that results. Well i or do you feel like you always nell it. No no no well. First of all anyone around me would tell you privately that i don't always nail it that i'm still under percentage of like one in ten things. I do it song wise. Let's say or recording wise is like whoa. That's got the spirit in it you know. That's what oh my god you know that it does happen like pretty regularly but the other nine. i mean. you're great. Dan we love you. You know there's kind of like. Don't make us tell you what we think of song eight. you know. it's just you're being mean so i feel like that. I'm still not at the point where i can say like. Oh yeah it's always dope i. It's no not at all. But i do feel like part of the game for me is okay. It's really okay. This is a far fetched metaphor right. But if you're designing the engraved mathematical and geometrical patterns and messages on a spacecraft that is gonna leave the solar system. You can't ever look in on your intending alien intelligences to find this thing right. You can never see your message. The way that alien is gonna see it no way. There's you don't have aliens brain. You can't see their way. So all you can do is create something that given what you know and the pattern of your responses to other messages and your thought of what's more general like of universal general reaction. You can make something. That you think is to tickle the fancy of possibly you but you can never test it and possibly alien because it somehow. It's abstract you've abstracted out the particulars or you've put them in a way that the alien will recognize as particulars all those things to say like. I'm designing the engraved panel on a a mars orbiter. That's going to go off out of the solar system and hopefully someone finds it space junk and sees what we're up to. I'm designing it with the hopes that somebody's going to get something out of it. Even though i can never get that thing out of it. Yeah they're gonna wreck. Somehow they're going to recognize healthy. They'll feel they'll get a message. That even i can never get which is just a fucking mind game. But it's the that's the game and that's fun and interesting and you can only get a glimpse once in a while if i listen back to attract. I'm like oh that's really good. No that makes complete sense to me. Because when i think about the music that destroys me the most. There's almost no way that. I'm receiving it in exactly the way that the songwriter intended it. Yeah exactly. I know that that's the truth. I know that that's the truth of it and in any kind of in almost any kind of music. Like if i think about even the hard rock that hits me that way or the country music that hits me that way i guess some country music and what's the reasons i love it so much that it is so literal at times debt. It's the closest to an ab right. You know. Swinging doors is exactly what meryl wanted university right. It's just so perfectly crafted that it has that effect right. How great. But you and i both love blood on the tracks for entirely different reasons right. Well i have a maybe a counter proposal. That i mean i agree with you but like i used to have kind of almost like an exotic feeling about metal musicians for example they. I thought that they were people. With a difference. You know sensorium and a difference of moral universe in a different kind of aesthetic sensibility or like you know machine in their brain right and i thought that they were just a different kind of person and i always loved listening to metal but i always assumed that i didn't feel the metal the way they would feel it. I assumed that they felt it in a real metal way. And i've got it in a worst metal way a wimp metal away and then when i went on tour Which was probably from. Eighty seven through two thousand and two. Like several years into that. I i had met so many musicians and every style of music. We would be buses at festivals. That'd be people who did every different kind of music You know all the ethnicities all the all the socioeconomic backgrounds all the countries whatever And they all basically read the same books essentially the same books. They all thought the new. Pj harvey was amazing. No matter who they were you know everybody thought that di angelo was the best. I mean there was. It was so universal and soc shared across all the the genres.

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"dan wilson" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman

The Moment with Brian Koppelman

07:57 min | 6 months ago

"dan wilson" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman

"I actually cannot wait. I've loved watching the tiktok thing. Because you're doing a version of this on there and right now. Very few people have figured out that you're they're doing. This is going to explode at some point. And i'm having so much fun seeing like you literally playing treacherous. The soggy wrote with taylor. And you're explaining it and you're playing it and there's like twenty seven people who've noticed like algorithm has it figured out it's you yet but when it does in one day shoves you out to two thousand people and then it's gonna explode. Which is doing exactly this thing your dad was saying. Don't stop doing because it's a great fucking thing. It really loves that it's going to just catch and then go. I know what's going to happen. And so people listening to this. You should go. Find dan on tiktok. Because it's so great watching these him. Play these dogs in this way but also man. You've mentioned twice now the funk in depression and you kind of threw it off like well everyone goes up but that's not true and my wife. Amy writes a lot about this. Her novels are all about this in her movies too. So not all kids go through. All adolescence have moments of sadness. But that's different than three month long funk so how would that manifest and how would you try to Remediated you know. I think that's the that's the mystery for me because i didn't I didn't discover. I had a couple of moments in college where i had to go. See a counselor a therapist and a and but that was it was really functional. I mean it was really like if you don't start to feel better you know you're gonna fall apart in school. It was very functional. And i didn't really discover Like therapy for happiness. Say until my late thirties early forties and by that time it was really my life had changed a lot in my my. My patterns had changed a lot. So i didn't really go into long stretches of just the blues like i had and so i feel like almost like my my young version of like getting bombed out for really really long periods of time and this is a funny thing because i'm norwegian american. There's a lot of shame in my culture around having feelings whether they're joy or or enjoying food or being sad or having the blues. There's just like tons of shame in in that norwegian background but also weirdly. It's like a really depressive culture. It's like i was going to say how can norwegian literature is literally all just like i woke up today. I was pressed odd. Because it's what you do. But it was called. And then i said i had. Some fish was served a little less set. It's just all the literature so my relationship to my my young psychology or whatever you wanna call. It is kind of mystery because i was unexamined. Basically my family enjoyed that joke a lot from an anti hallway. Which is that the woody allen joke where he says i ran into a i ran into a shrink at a party and i i told him my uncle mort thinks he's a thinks he's a chicken. What should we do and the the shrink said. Well you need you need. You need to get him into therapy of quick. I think we can cure it. But i said well actually. We don't want to do that because we need the eggs. We need the eggs. Yeah in my case like the eggs were good. And i'm not even for me. You know and so i didn't really examine where it all came from until way late in life do you. Do you read this author. The norwegian author named per patterson p. e. r. known. Oh yeah out stealing horses just today like get that book okay radical. It's mike amy's favorite book and he's he's no joke like maybe the best he's like one of the world's best writers and he's norwegian and the books are not happy but but again they press on in between eating some. I wanna altered fish item. That name sounds like some old neighbor of from my parents. Hometowns like that would be like. Oh yeah per pedersen out stealing horses. You want to read that book you'll actually really thank me and maybe get some songs out of it. It's just i get older. I don't like reading really really really sad ship. But amy was a few years ago. You gotta read this one. And i did and wreck the saturday but a lot of a lot of joy since then. Well did you when you were in. Those folks dan wilson. Did you find yourself writing. Were you journaling. Were you coming up with songs. Were you exercising. Were you taking drugs. What were you doing well in my like. When i was trying to figure out. I think one of the one of my like. Let's say in my teens and twenties. I knew i wanted to be an artist. I wasn't even really artistic. Type like the joke of a person who would wear a beret. Be very goth. Or whatever i didn't have any like of the trappings. No outer manifestations on but i but it really was obvious that that was my that was my path and because i knew that The distance between how awesome. I wanted to be an how much the things i made. Sucked was really painful. And i felt it. My god sleet. You know like so. I knew where. I ought to be a wanted to be and how i wanted to channel you know from the gods and i knew that the stuff i was making through my teens and early to mid twenties was essentially compared to that terrible you know and it was very painful and i feel like one of my biggest challenges was just kind of sticking with it. Despite this evidence that kept presenting itself to me that i sucked but it was only. I don't know i'm i was okay. I had a group of friends who always wanted to hear what i did. Like maybe six people and in my late twenty s. I kind of realized that. I could lean on them. Emotionally almost not like for not exactly for validation. But partly for validation. So i would write something and i had record a demo and that'd be like oh i can't wait to play it to those people are they're gonna they're gonna love this like we dance to this at a party or whatever like that. Was your audience. That was your audience found an outward. I found an outward kind of litmus test instead of my own kind of self or insecurity. I put it outside myself before i had a real audience. I had like six friends. They're always pretty honest like they would be like. Why do you have all that noise in the middle. It's too noisy. Oh it sounded to me. It's terrible you know. Real real real commentary but that that problem though of having a feeling this is really valuable for someone who's listening who's like wants to do creative work and also like you and me didn't seem like an artist from the outside. I was actually scared to say the words. Till i was thirty or so like i was so terrified of being an artist and i didn't look like the artists and and and i wasn't picked out by any teachers as being an artist but that that gap down between the feeling.

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"dan wilson" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman

The Moment with Brian Koppelman

07:40 min | 6 months ago

"dan wilson" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman

"That helped me a lot but it's like you doing poorly are people saying that to you didn't have the effect you didn't do poorly like i was a kid who was always told i was so much smarter than my grades but you know my grades were terrible and i got it too tough some northwestern as just they were crazy reach schools. They yeah same thing i said you. I sent stuff that i'd worked on and right it worked out. Those were absurd reaches for for for for me and sometimes although i knew i had a lot of verbal acuity sometimes. I did wonder well if i am that smart. I should be able to you know like i knew i was smarter than a bunch of the teachers. But i did think oh. I should be able to do this work. Even i couldn't like i couldn't bring myself to do it because i do have. Adhd and wasn't diagnosed him. But i didn't do it but the question is like did you get down on yourself over this kind of thing. Because i would start to convince myself i was like lazy and a loser and was never gonna reach my potential which is part of why i have this fascination with people get shipped together go to places like harvard so did did you ever feel that way like oh fuck fuck up or were you prevent it for feeling that well i mean i i never felt i never felt like i was a fuck up but i guess i have to say my i mean i had depression and in high school and Like you know a lot of people. And i i had like the most ridiculous level of hyper focus of and which allowed me actually not to like. Think about my achievement. Literally practicing the base. If i was doing it i there was no final test or anything that was as important but then when i turned my attention to studying for final i was like a laser beam. I just couldn't not focus to that degree about whatever it was. So i think i either. I knew that once. I turn my attention to something. It would work out or didn't it didn't seem important if i was trying to learn jaakko stories. Lick nothing else was a thing right. I don't really know that that that that makes total sense. I mean that's one of the ways they do diagnose. Adhd obviously is hyper focus. A huge part of it. And so i had that hyperfocused too but it would only be on stuff that captured my interest in other than english. Classes it just never it never did and you also were able to recognize you. Were an artist of some sort. That became clear to you in high school. Oh yeah i mean. I think i think my You know we talk about reach. Yeah like there's this. There's this amazing book called twenty-six sixty six which is really really horrific and so don't read it is at the bologna book. Yeah yeah yeah. He's amazing it's so great but one of the things he says. Was that the that the the main one of the main artists a novelist in the book. He says he treats his he treats his his. He looks upon the artists that he wants to be. Like as gods icons it looks on on all of his peers as wannabes and losers and he looks at his own art as a combination of a game in a business. And although i never really had that sort of like dual game business thing i definitely. I saw being an artist as like one kind of game and then all the other games were minor games getting an a. In a class or a minus was like a minor game but learning how to You know teen town on the base was like a major game. And i learned that i worked on. That is the biggest game and if you talk about reach trying to write a hit was probably like for me like that's the reach. Not i mean please. I know it sounds awful but whatever college i went to was not going to be the reach for me it was like making great music was always going to be the desperate reach. So yeah you knew it was. Music did did did you know to. I was talking to I read an interview with you. You said you had a lot of friends who were girls in high school and and you would listen to them and maybe it didn't see you as threatening or like like the other guys and to some folks that would lead to some sort of insecurity not being able to connect exactly as they wanted to. But i was talking to getty lee and he told me that the proficiency he gained on ace actually gave him a kind of security because he'd abe was able to come so proficient at this thing that it was like an armed him in a way to get that a little bit. Do you think out of becoming good at at music. Funny because I it took me a long time. It took me a long time to do any of the music stuff. It took me I had been on tour with trip. Shakespeare for maybe five years before i felt like i could throw down on the piano and i don't really even throw down anymore but i really felt like at that point. I was like I felt enough cockiness about my playing. That i you know if you said oh you're gonna jam with so and so i'd be like okay. I'll give it a shot but that took me a long time to get to that point and sort of the same with guitar. Took me about that. Same amount of you know five or six or seven years of touring to feel like okay. I got nothing to be ashamed of here. know whatever sound i make is going to be of interest or stimulate some. Something's going to happen if i play a note. You know sure so but but you also say this interview that your dad said to you know hey be a parlor pianist. You'll always be able to you know play at at at a party and you said that that's not that's her. You never did literal sense. You never did. Maybe my parents rotter since he was right wasn't it. My parents literally thought. My parents were very puzzled by me. They were so puzzled and actually my siblings are all the same genes as me. And they're just equally puzzling weird artists as i. Am you know and my parents were not like that. My parents were not weird artists and they had three kids. Who were weird. Artisan would go into funk's that lasted for months and they you know and would obsess about what seemed to be irrelevant. You know little projects or making things all the time anyway. That said don't quit your piano lessons because you'll be able to play the hits of the day at parties and everyone will like you you'll be popular and it was so funny because like years later i told him i still haven't been to a party where there was even a piano there so i don't know but actually later in life it became very handy in exact same way. Of course it's had the handiest things and it is an incredibly great thing to be able to. Do you know if you can pull out a guitar and it still to this day right. If you could pull out a guitar now. I guess some people could play closing.

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"dan wilson" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman

The Moment with Brian Koppelman

06:57 min | 6 months ago

"dan wilson" Discussed on The Moment with Brian Koppelman

"Hey this is the moment brian koppelman. Thanks for listening. I'm thrilled to have dan wilson on the podcast dance one of the best songwriters. Walking around he's written and recorded and sung A bunch of songs. You know most famously as an artist closing time but he's also written someone like you with adele produced produce that record to the yup and he's won the grammys and Wrote with huge hits for dixie chicks and all sudden one grammy for that and also has written with taylor swift though. It's unclear if he's allowed to talk about that experience. Other than with platitudes and and he and i got to spend some time writing together over the last few weeks which was an enormous thrill for me and and dance also granted social media. We i got in touch. Dan because you wrote me and it was so cool you wrote me but when i was six screen screenwriting things and you were like. Hey i want to do something. Similar you cool with it and i was like yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. I love that seconds screenwriting and six seconds and it. I i like to things about a lot. I'd like the fact that you were making it a kind of artistic artistic practice of your own. I'm just gonna do this every day. And then i liked the kind of generosity of it and i thought that maybe i could model my own Internet efforts along those lines and it's worked out really well. Yeah it's awesome. And i mean that was twenty thirteen. I started doing that into twenty fourteen. And so that's a long time that we were sort of internet buddies before we got to spend some time together and so it was really great to get to hang out. I have a ton of questions cool stuff. I've been thinking about for a long time. I wanna start. Actually you know. I don't know how much you listen to mark marines. Wpf but you know. He has this fascination with saturday night. Live and always ask people who are on how it happened. I have a harvard fascination. I have my whole life. I'd never applied to harvard. There was no chance that i could go to harvard and mostly at once. My son got to go. I was able to extinguish. But but what. I'm talking to somebody who went around the time fuse than i am so i gotta ask like no interest accidentally gets into harvard. Union brother both did so. How did that happen for you. And how badly did you want it. And how focused on that stuff where you was as a kid and i did. It mean a lot when when it happened. Did it sort of codify something about yourself for you. Well as i don't know. I think my i'm gonna try not to speak in platitudes about it. Yes i i was a really really spacey teenager and i didn't really deal with things besides music and homework. Time horizon was was very very brief. I i really knew what was happening now. And the rest was ler yeah. I was very challenged in planning ahead in any way and that definitely that definitely Applied to the idea of college. I also because My background of education. My dad had gone to dartmouth or college and then he went to medical school at harvard. So the so the reality was there that that kind of thing could happen. But i was always getting in school. This is gonna sound so dorky. But i was always getting comments like dan could do better given his potential and i i did well but everyone was like you could. You could even do better all consistently all the time. So i kind of had. This thought that like. Maybe college wasn't for me. Which is the dumbest thing. I can think of now. and i will say a friend of mine. This is so i've never thought about this and talked about this. I announced to my parents. I instead of going to college. I wanted to join a traveling singing group of some kind and they were really bombed and they're like what kind of thing and i was like. Well i don't know i have. I have this friend who just joined a thing called up with people. It was like hair or godspell or something that traveled around buses. And i hope they were doing drugs but i actually think they weren't there probably. They're probably very religious. Anyway i saw this as a model dad mom. I think i'm going to join some sort of like you know teenage singing troupe. And travel the country on buses. And they're like the hell you're tell to your doctor nurse mom and dad exactly exactly and but just apply just apply to college so i took my i. I basically aced the sat and act achievement. tests. I killed them. I got all my aim. Minus minus is in school and then i sent several colleges portfolio of cartoons that i'd published in magazines around minneapolis. Saint paul and i was like this is what i wanna do. I want to be some kind of artist. Here's my thing. And then i i got into a bunch of colleges including harvard which which we didn't expect but i think they just thought okay you could be are. We need an artist and every sure. Yeah that makes sense. And did you get your dad. Had gone and that made it possible. That's a really anti actually deep thing. I completely understand how i mean. That's one of the things about like legacies of situations where people don't have that. It doesn't seem possible and feeding that. That could be so for you. It didn't seem that daunting. It didn't seem. But but i mean yeah my my. I was in suburban minneapolis. I was everybody helped along. I was like the smart kid that everyone had to remind to be there. I i was kicked out of a couple of plays. That i was in because i missed i would always miss the performances because i'd be like practicing piano somewhere in you know or i'd be downtown at the library practicing the piano and find the next day. I missed the do you have adhd. I probably would if i looked into it. I probably have. I'd just never. I was it was maddening to the people around me so i had a network of people like basically like enabling me in a most like talk about privilege like intense and and that.

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"dan wilson" Discussed on Skeptiko - Science at the Tipping Point

Skeptiko - Science at the Tipping Point

03:38 min | 9 months ago

"dan wilson" Discussed on Skeptiko - Science at the Tipping Point

"Studies that he cited but really over and over again. There's there's case study after case study. And he actually has the quotes. None of these studies of your show benefit wearing a mask in community members households tables one and two therein. And i've looked at those There is seventeen eligible studies. None of the studies established conclusive relationship between mask respirator. Use protect in protection influence influence it infection. So it's not like This guy in here. With smith in two thousand sixteen we identified six clinical studies in the milit- analysis of them. We found no significant difference between Masks and a risk of laboratory confirmed infection. So you don't. It's not like the people on the other side of this are making this stuff up there citing science the same way that you're citing it and the conclusion that that you come to is not supported by the conclusion that the cdc eventually came to less say in last year's super bowl when the chiefs one. No one was wearing masks. So all this research that we're talking about was available and they could have implemented or strongly recommended it's not even a mandate. They could have strongly recommended at that point that during flu season everyone wear a mask. They could have recommended at the super bowl. That if you're in the at risk group you should wear a mask. None of that was done. That speaks to where the cdc and not like the cdc or the world health organization is the be end all but that speaks to the state of the science. I don't know why we can't find agreement on that. Because i think that's we all lived through it. There is no recommendation for mask wearing at that time. Yeah i would think that's more of a cultural thing than a science thing. Honestly there well then then great great. Then you're saying that the change that we've had is a cultural thing and i would agree it should it's thing and it's not. It's a cultural thing. There's no big massive wave of science. That came out in two thousand twenty the turn things the other way. It's a cultural thing. It's a political thing. It's a siakam saying that. I think the reason masks weren't pushed hardly recommended As a cultural thing you know there are other. Nations have always worn masks. That mass has always been a strong part of their culture and in america. Just hasn't that's not necessarily a reflection science my opinion. But i'd like to just go up over to back to Dennis list here I have some of his papers. We already went over that one but yes. Oh the use of face masks respirators to prevent transmission wednesday. He had this on his list and he had this to say about it. That you picked up there are seventeen. Eligible studies none of studies establishing inclusive. mask respirator. Use in protection against one's infection but in the study if you read it. Isn't that none of the studies can establish inclusive link. Let some evidence does suggest that mask uses best undertaking as part of a package personal protection and that Matthews is a success of masks. Use is likely linked to its early and consistent and correct usage..

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"dan wilson" Discussed on MyTalk 107.1

MyTalk 107.1

02:32 min | 11 months ago

"dan wilson" Discussed on MyTalk 107.1

"And he comes from some of them because closing supersonic that myself my sonic? Yes. Closing time. Who got in first? Did you know every new beginning comes from some other beginnings. End. Right. Great song. That is a great line. It is good. And I did you guys do you guys know? I mean, you think that song is about you know last call it a bar or whatever it is, but Have you ever heard Dan Wilson explain what the inspiration Francis isn't it? It's about Hey, was waiting for his wife to give birth and he was thinking about how the baby was going to come out and have a new beginning, and it was timeto. You know, it was closing time in the womb and red and it was timeto enter the world and it really everyone thinks it's about a bar, All right, but I thought it was about a woman in a bar. But it was about a woman on a bed having a baby. Nothing to do with the Bard on the apples, his own, Dan Wilson. Where he has written some amazing song. Yeah, he had the Dixie Chicks, one that he won the Grammy for And don't forget. Don't forget trip Shakespeare. That was a fun. Yes, He's that band. Okay, We're gonna talk about another movie, by the way, Okay. These air. These movies shows songs that involve a fresh start. You know our new start a new beginning for we're talking about the new year here. 2014 movie. Reese Witherspoon takes a 1100 Miles solo hike is away. Yeah, she's on her show she Cheryl Strayed. The book was great. She was part of your book club. Cheryl was we had her before Reese found the book. That's true. We had it right away. And are you taking credit for the smash success? Retweeted Reese about little cruelties, His new Gen spark You did, didn't you? You know, Laurie, I'm really good to see these people. That response to meet Josh to Malik tweeted twice about playing power angles on the little know why he's not Rick's little house on the Prairie remake. That show is tailor made for him. He already knows the prairies. You know the perfect age. You just keep at it. You keep at it. All right? What's the angles? Um, okay. We're gonna go back to the land of television. This is ah, involves a fresh start, The show took place. The show ran from 2010 to 2015 3 40 something best friends from Los Angeles or flying to Paris when their plane makes at seven. Cleveland Yes. When then what? And then what's that Shoko live in Cleveland? Living in Cleveland. Close close to Cleveland, Cleveland,.

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"dan wilson" Discussed on KIRO Radio 97.3 FM

KIRO Radio 97.3 FM

01:41 min | 1 year ago

"dan wilson" Discussed on KIRO Radio 97.3 FM

"With stolen identities of tens of thousands of Washingtonians employment security commissioner Susan Levine tells us how the department is tackling the issue now we need to focus on what we can get back as well as how to better address those who have been impacted by this where we are asking people to verify their identities and to get more information from them and we need to rapidly address their needs as well and I'm keenly aware of that and working very hard to do so she says there will be delays in payment over the coming weeks as the department sorts through everything and to expect direct deposits to take up to three days to show up after filing in is akua software engineer has been charged with trying to steal from a program designed to help businesses during the Copa nineteen pandemic he allegedly submitted false loan applications for fake tech companies the thirty five year old was arrested on Friday for attempting to steal one point five million dollars as hospitals once again begin performing elective surgeries demand for blood donations will increase the blood drive it T. mobile park has been extended through the end of June former Ms catcher Dan Wilson expressed excitement last month when it opens open the ball park to make this possible and you know we're doing it properly with the social distancing and everything in place since it started in mid April almost sixteen hundred people have donated a total of more than fourteen hundred units of blood that's enough to give potentially lifesaving help to more than four thousand people and now it's time your weather forecast cloudy skies to start your morning and they'll stick around for the rest of the day we'll still see temperatures reaching into the upper sixties it's currently fifty seven degrees.

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"dan wilson" Discussed on MyTalk 107.1

MyTalk 107.1

01:45 min | 2 years ago

"dan wilson" Discussed on MyTalk 107.1

"It didn't it didn't appeal to me that it didn't appeal to me I was probably very tired that day very tired god they did and that does make this it is hold on yes instead of rider he said let's try to make it like a little demo and I sang the song once and they built the orchestra around it I never re signing it wow for the recording actually with the demo is the actual recording wow but after that of saying it about three gazillion times she only see her once that's amazing on the battle that is we did not know she just casually disorder rob season she's like my fevered person on the couch inches from consistently for she's everything what he really as I and I remember when your very first Christmas album came out yeah and the pair was on it with an the Charlie whatever stressing that Sandra yonder in your own your boyfriend from trip Shakespeare Dan Wilson let's talk about he's collab with Celine Dion and their new song yeah okay so lovers never die it's on her courage album it's the new album so he was coal he co wrote and co produced the sign so let's listen to it okay you said forever but what came after that what I expected expected you bet you say that your romantic was the Romans and there's he is a very strong download the Dixie chicks and he really.

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"dan wilson" Discussed on The Art of Process with Aimee Mann and Ted Leo

The Art of Process with Aimee Mann and Ted Leo

02:52 min | 3 years ago

"dan wilson" Discussed on The Art of Process with Aimee Mann and Ted Leo

"What's your relationship with perfectionism versus first draft? Who cares will say probably Lear in lyrics in Lear is if I like, I can't always immediately generate a bunch of Lear IX, I sometimes can do that. Yeah. And when I do that I recognize that feeling and then like, I really clear everything out if I'm with people, I might just give me a minute because I have to I'm gonna go out side, or, you know, go out to my car just have to record a bunch of stuff or write it down or whatever it is. I can tell in that feeling is on me. And I can channel a whole bunch of good lyrics. And then other times doesn't happen like that. But I can you know, the kind of conversation you have or the person keeps making you laugh because they keep referring to the thing you said an hour before. Yeah. And they keep making reference to something you said and putting it in a new context or new light. And it's such a sexy thing in great thing when they when someone does that in a witty way. Yeah. Yeah. The calling back. To the previous topic that seemed irrelevant, but it's not well, if I'm not in that sort of like channeling flowing phase lyrically. Yeah. I think I can kind of access a kind of musical quivalent to that conversational right thing where stuff that randomly came up earlier in the day. Suddenly seems like a good metaphor for what's happening right now or something that somebody said at lunch son is like wait a minute. That thing they said was totally great and it works rhythmically. And then if you suggested also it's fun because then they realized that it's something they said, but it was just casual that side can kinda take over. That's really nice. That's nice. It's like so you your ears sort of working to pick up little tidbits throughout the day, storing them up for you, maybe or main you don't really even realize subconsciously, you know, trying to and also that has to do with a little bit with the found like if I have problems with reading words to a section of a song. I have a couple of books of Bob Dylan lyrics, just opened it up. There's always some word that just shouldn't be in asong. Yeah. In Dylan song. Yeah. It's always got some phrase is nice. Yes. You laugh out loud. Because no one else would ever thought to put that in. And then at that moment. I'm like, well, maybe steal that word from Dylan that'll freshen things up for me. You know, I've I've found I've found it to be useful to be able to let go of my initial idea about where song was even going lyrically. If you can find a phrase or word, her prime, a meter with something that might take you in a different direction to allow yourself to go with with the form in that case, see where that takes. You idea was one thing that I that I often find myself saying in sessions is people will say this chorus, and I'll go we don't know. I don't know. Yeah. It's be trying to beat it. I really don't like to like getting back to the Castillo verse pre chorus chorus post chorus hook thing at this point. I try to avoid thinking of those terms..

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"dan wilson" Discussed on The Art of Process with Aimee Mann and Ted Leo

The Art of Process with Aimee Mann and Ted Leo

03:58 min | 3 years ago

"dan wilson" Discussed on The Art of Process with Aimee Mann and Ted Leo

"Twentieth. Binge seasons. One and two right now. That's mission. Zits Z Y X. I don't want to be too reductivist about it. But I think that there are a lot of ways of thinking about art forms that you know, you can apply to other art forms. Yeah. I thought about that a lot with literature and poetry to how different ideas about different forms of poetry. For example, could be applied to not the lyric rating, but the music of song, which leads me to asking you you've done a lot of visual art over the years as well. Maybe even before you start playing music always played music as a kid, but I thought for a long time I thought that I was going to be a painter who had a hobby of playing music. Yeah. Have methods crossover or have, you know ways of thinking crossover between the two thumb. I mean, it's interesting because musical collaboration is very very different for me than writing a song alone writing a song alone. From me doesn't matter. What the mood of the song is it's like a melancholy experience, not a bad one. But it's it's like being on a rowboat alone. Calm Seve, you know, and it's not isolating. It's just me and myself, and my thoughts, you know, and painting his totally like that. But collaborating musically, you get to sort of have the creativity and the song and the music come out. But it's somehow skips that melancholy stuff. I feel that's kind of. I don't think I could do. What would I do collaboratively without constantly going back to that lonely? Rowboat, you know, and being alone in that way. But I think paint painting an art is this like the issed end of music. Sometimes I think that when we talk about these ways of songwriting, I'm afraid that it can come off as too clinical or were just doing science and not alchemy, but I've found in our collaboration clever with Amy which was really the first time that I ever wrote truly collaborative with someone, you know, there are a couple of hurdles to get over in sort of not removing your soul from the process, but removing a certain amount of ego. Oh from the process that you could simultaneously look at it. As a puzzle to be solved and a piece of work to be made better through some of these specific forms and rituals. You've done some really deep collaborating with people as well. And I wonder how much that changes from artists artists. Like, what's the breath of were just working on a puzzle? Or when really almost in the rowboat with you this, you know, it's really different from person to person, partly even in my collaborative life. It's a lot of probably half of my sessions threw out the air people. I'm just meeting and then like half of them are with people that I have worked with before. And with the person that I'm just meeting one of the unknowns is whether they even really want to do it which is weird because I feel like why bother but there's a certain amount of pressure. You better go over to dance, and you know, like make some used in the person who is like my assessment of myself is that in the music business. I'm. I'm like one of the horse whispery nicer kind of people don't believe in tears when I have a session, you know? So if you're like a. Certain collaborator. I'm not going to humiliate you into writing a song. You know what I mean? So people at the labels or management think oh, send person a very hesitant to Dan whose nights they won't it won't ruin their day. And they they might feel better like writing songs with other people. And so I get from that to people who are like, I'm like, I would rather shoot the breeze for a while before even doing anything, but I do occasionally walk into a session with say a producer in an artist in me. And we walk in we say, hi what's up, and how's it going in the producer goes? All right. Check it out, and they like instantly like five minutes into it. They're playing this track super loud, and we're supposed to go like, okay. Okay. I guess I have some ideas..

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