20 Episode results for "Dan Ryan"

CBS 2 NEWS AM UPDATE 07-08-20

CBS2 News Chicago

00:45 sec | 5 months ago

CBS 2 NEWS AM UPDATE 07-08-20

"From the CBS to newsroom I'm use Masan here are some of the top stories we're following for you today. One person is missing in Monroe harbor after a boat hits a break wall in the water. During a lightning storm rescue crews called off the search overnight, but there are planning to go back out there and look for whoever fell off. Board wants the late is better. People rushed to the rescue after a rollover crash on. On the Dan Ryan by the time, the Fire Department got out to the scene right near the chinatown feed, while witnesses had witnesses rather had already pulled the two people from their car. Both of them are expected to be okay. Your forecast today is going to be mostly sunny, hot and humid. You might see a stray thunderstorm here or there, but expect highs in the mid nineties s from CBS newsroom. I'm used to meet Hassan.

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Yes This Is Real

The Minimalists Podcast

02:09 min | 1 year ago

Yes This Is Real

"Uh-huh minimalists everybody. I'm Joshua Fields Millburn from the minimalists. And this is my phone right here and did you know you can. Actually you can text me on this phone Ryan and I just signed up for this new service where we got a brand new phone number with a Dayton Ohio Ohio area code because we're from Dayton and if you text us literally goes to our phone. Number's nine three seven. Two zero two four six six five four now. This might be a bad idea but I think it's a really great idea and I'm really hopeful for it so if you have questions comments if you have photos those of you decluttering that you want us to share. Please send them on over a nine three seven two zero two four six five four and it will actually show up on my phone and it will actually be me or Ryan who is responding to you not a robot not someone in schedule one who just texting you back. It will actually be me or Ryan and right now during the holidays. We're actually here at my house. My Christmas tree in background during the holidays. This is the best time to do it. I've got some extra free time sometimes. I'm trying to escape from my family. You know just for a few minutes because I'm an introvert. So runoff often to the bathroom. Or maybe out on the balcony and respond to a few text messages. And in fact even be answering some of these questions on the minimalists enlists podcasts. Some of our favorite questions went to them there or on Youtube or facebook or instagram. Why some questions there as well all you have to do is text me. Dan Ryan it goes to both of our phones and we'll do our best to respond to as many of you as possible that number one more time nine three seven two zero two four six five live four. Please don't call that number if you do call and I don't know your phone number. It's just going to go straight to voicemail so you can send us a text though and I'll get back to view as soon as I can but people use things Halliday's minimalists.

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CBS 2 News PM Update 110520

CBS2 News Chicago

01:01 min | 3 weeks ago

CBS 2 News PM Update 110520

"I'm brad edwards here. The stories making news this hour. Chicago's top doctor. Says there are as many as one hundred five thousand active cases of covid nineteen in the city on average. There are fourteen hundred new cases every day across the state we broke another record nearly ten thousand new cases wild scene near the uic campus. A car blew through a stop. Sign and morgan street. Hit two people than a tree. One of those people died. The driver got out. Ran onto the dan ryan try to make his escape. Police caught up to him. New unemployment numbers out idea asked reports over seventy three thousand. New unemployment claims filed last week. It's more than twenty thousand. Jobless claims filed compared to the previous week. Thirty eight percent increase across the state to the weather. Now clear tonight. Low forty seven sunshine unlimited tomorrow. High of seventy one. Join us. And cbs stewart. Cbs chicago dot com for news. Updates around the clock bread edwards.

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CBS 2 News PM Update 071320

CBS2 News Chicago

01:05 min | 4 months ago

CBS 2 News PM Update 071320

"I'm Erica sergeant here. Are the stories making news at this hour? Another big event in Chicago is getting canceled because of covid nineteen. Chicago Marathon officials announcing they are canceling shears race more than forty five thousand people run their being offered a refund, or they can defer the fee to next year Illinois state police, trying to find the gunman behind a shooting on the Dan Ryan Expressway overnight, a female passenger of a car was wounded when someone pulled up near fifty first street and opened fire Chicago is already setting a record for mail in voting in November now a push for even more to sign up so. So far more than one hundred twenty one thousand people applied online later this week. The Chicago Board of election we'll send out nine hundred thousand vote by mail applications. The goal is to get people to vote despite cove in one thousand nine hundred years turning to the weather, our break from the heat will be short-lived. Temperatures hit eighty seven tomorrow hotter in the suburbs rain on, Wednesday join us on. CBS OR CBS Chicago. Dot Com for news updates around the clock. I'm Erica, Sergeant.

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CBS 2 News PM Update 092220

CBS2 News Chicago

01:08 min | 2 months ago

CBS 2 News PM Update 092220

"I'm Brad. We're to the stories making news. This hour two men are dead after an apparent home invasion of north suburban. Waukegan. It happened around ten this morning and the hundred block of frolic police say the owner of the home told the two men tried to break in a fight started they started shooting at each other in the end. The two men ended up dead in front yard. Chicago man who wrote his horse on the Dan Ryan Expressway trying up yesterday's rush hour traffic remains in jail police arrested Adam Hollingsworth for reckless conduct is so bang a police officer and criminal trespassing his horse ended up with injuries and is being treated. Our neighbor to the north is back on Chicago's travel ban list city added Wisconsin in three other states, Montana Idaho Minnesota. If you traveled any of the states and the banned list, you must quarantine for fourteen days when you get back to Chicago to the weather. Now, fair skies tonight, low of fifty nine hazy sunshine tomorrow high of eighty. Join US ON CBS tour or CBS CHICAGO DOT COM for news updates around the clock I'm Brad Edwards.

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Part 1: The People Who Got Us Where We Are Today

The Hustle & Flowchart Podcast

1:28:04 hr | 3 months ago

Part 1: The People Who Got Us Where We Are Today

"Going. Even further back I was telling you earlier today I think the very first business book I ever read before I read Rich Dad Poor Dad before i. read Four Hour Work Week any of that kind of stuff was the myth. And literally today the day that we're recording this episode we've been having emails back and forth with Michael. Gerber. Because he's GonNa come on the PODCAST. And I'm just I'm just like Holy Shit like. This is going back even further full circle. This is an intro intro intro intro. Flow chart with your Voi- MAPO. Yoga Hey, welcome. Welcome. We are back. We are. WHO's our guest today Me Yeah and you and you. Owe. US. Actually in a different environment for this recording, we've walked full six feet to the right. We're no longer in my office. We're now in your kids playroom. Yeah it's pretty much I don't know what we re. We literally just call this room, the Middle Room, but it's basically another living room and the kids typically take it over and textually the cleanest of ever seen it typically there's like Lagos, everywhere. But so like my nightmare is I love leagues. Goes in a few places. Yeah. But like neighbors just middle of the night stepping on illegal man feel safe going through your foot. Might. The bottom of my feet of built up. Callous. Like. I've stepped on Lego so many times. Your kids I gave you give him props, they both are little architects. I I would just build like. Of. All like -combobulate did colored blocks and things and they're just like perfectly orderly. Here's my castle nascent Oranje and thought that like. In the real world and the virtual world it's like because like when you virtual worlds minecraft, so like their favorite thing to do is play minecraft. So if they're like they're they're playing minecraft on their kindles with they're not playing minecraft on their kindles they're building the same shit in real life and they literally call Legos like look we're playing minecraft in real life. The Lakers came I. You know. Just about to ask you I assume that does do they both play now? Oh Yeah. They're both like all trae into it interesting. I of want to watch I have this like I. I WANNA. See how they play that game a because I don't understand that game but being they'll show you I'm. Not here right now, but not extent now if you ask them, Hey, can you show me how to play minecraft? God All right Strat with me and they'll go they'll talk to about four hours straight. Okay. I'll give an hour. I think that'd be cool. That'd be pissed that you cut them off. Yeah, let's see me enough L. we'll give me more. Cheese anyway, services are this is a milestone. This is a huge monumental moment in time. Yes. This is our three hundredth episode of the Hustle and flow chart podcast. Dr Sweaty. Hand Matt That was good. Now have to go disinfect damn hand in your couch. We're socially distanced. Yeah. But you just touched my hand you touch my hand. Get Out of my house. Now. You're just confused already. Yeah. So history hundred. Sewed, and we are taking notes on this one. As always. We're not going to do our normal intro thing. We just want to kind of get into a cool conversation here but we are GonNa take notes seeking it those notes over hustle and flow dot com slash comp their free if you grab them within a couple of weeks of this episode going live and we'll hook up there. So go get those. Yeah. Get Him and Yes this episode the. It's going to be kind of like a two Hafer or maybe I don't know if it's going to be one. A one partner two-thirds. Yeah. We'll call it two parts. Thanks. So in the first initial have here, our portion part is going to be kept US reflecting on what how we got to the point where right now more for ourselves to remember like the to be very honest it's. It's hard to remember all this stuff. But when you start piecing one person like Oh, this connection that person that you started almost developed as bigger picture and we started to go down this memory lane last week and we had to stop ourselves because we're like, Oh hold on. This is too good. We got a record it but then we thought this could be a really cool way to give gratitude to the people who have seriously brought us here to this point right now and that's not a frigging be cheesy and stuff but no shit like if it wasn't for just like a single connection tin connections ago Probably would not be here right now what we're doing and I mean, we'd be somewhere else probably being our I, but it's just cool to reflect and give gratitude these Pete's. Yeah. So we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA talk through our time line here for a minute and you know pick up where we left off actually probably go back even further. vetted. So all right. So here's how it kicked off. Before that let's is. You for the second part of the show at the threat. So we actually we emailed our email list and we went to our facebook group and we said Hey. Are there any questions you want to ask us? You know personal business nothing's off limits sinister questions We probably won't talk about politics but anything else goes and so we we had people send us a bunch of questions. We got a moody load. Responses. and We're we're going to spend some time. Kind of working through these questions in a we were overwhelmed I'm going to start and say that by the sheer number of frigging responses, questions, they were Rad and and we honestly if not ready one of them yet yet our goal basically in this episode is to answer as many of these. We can before episode she gets way too long because we WANNA make sure that people don't get turned up at the upset. Yeah like so and it's also a chance for us to show gratitude to you guys. You know the people that did right questions. We're GONNA shut out your names and. All that good stuff. So we'll. We'll do the best. We can answer all of them as Matt said Boatload. Load. Of question is slightly less than about load L. K. metric. So we're aiming for but. When stop all right. So let's start with our first half are part of this. Thing. The whole reason we started going down memory lane I think is because we were reflecting on just the interesting projects were involved in right now. And then we quickly realized oh most in. Not, everyone products, but Moses projects involve a mentor that we were actually studying from like ten years ago even later in his like that got us I think we're like whole how? We get here we need to. Trace our steps a little bit. Yeah. So I. Kinda WanNa work backwards. Yeah I don't WanNa work from the beginning the now because that's boring and I don't think we're going to actually be able to do that accurately we need to come from. As we started minto style I get it. NIGGA. It is well, let's let's start like like seriously with I guess the projects we have right now right So let's let's talk about him. So list out the things that are basically were involved members pro. Okay. So members, Perot, that is reported up with with Crispin Eddie, he's a one of the longest listeners I would say long-stem time listeners of this show and he reached out we partnered with him. and His business partner and team over there. Some members pros one of them Unicorn Equity. Unicorn. Equity is with Roland Frazier. Definitely one of our mentors Oliver Schmaltz I who can it does through Roland So newer newer friend of ours but partners nonetheless, that's expanding very interesting places that we can't speak about some other interesting partners getting involved but. That's the future branches. That's four hundred episode we talk about maybe Yeah. So, Unicorn equity is the second. We've got a partnership project going with Jay Abraham right now and Shefrin. Yeah. So we were partnered up with them on a new product that Jay's launching called master passive income and We're we've arraigned some deals with him in essentially were you know that's in collaboration with Shefrin SA- both of those gentlemen have been You know guys that we've studied for about ten yard be beyond ten years and get read books listened audience videos all that stuff. So now being able to partner them crazy and amazing. And then of course, you know we have, we have a bunch of affiliate stuff we're doing. Partnerships there of course, and then podcast. With people all day and then the membership. Yeah I mean the podcast just itself is kind of crazy as kind of. Like I'm constantly pinching myself over the stations we're having I'm just like holy crap and I I think that's actually what started. This conversation was just like some of these names that we're getting on our podcast of these people that were getting connected with, and then I was going like all the way back to the very beginning of connecting dots from then to now with like I books that I ever read on the topic of business and the people that were interviewing now and just like just this spiderweb that happened over the years that got us here, and that's exactly what it was. We started thinking about the books that we're reading. So one. of On that stood out was rich Ephron and the Internet marketing manifesto, and that's I. Don't know how old now. But over what probably twelve years old? Yes. More said on the show I. Think it came out in two thousand seven maybe. Okay. Okay. So I don't know somewhere between two, thousand, seventeen, thousand, nine if I recall correctly. So it's it's there you go over ten years old and So that's wild the think about, and that was one of the first books that Josh Bartlett told us to read and you know Josh Bartlett is the is the owner of thrive cart and he's been on the show really longtime friend of ours. he will be within this path of course so. We're seeing a lot about about how we got here. So let's see. Let's dive into it. So I'd say you know the podcast you mentioned that that is you know we talked about it as a selling point to start your own podcast but started doing podcast. If you WANNA grow network thing we just we got someone one of our listeners of. I'm forgetting his name right now I apologize because you might be listening but Y- we hooked him up with a little discount on the podcasting course and he had nothing he honestly like out of business job and all that stuff and essentially took what he learned there and applied it to podcasting and frigging got ownership of companies doing like thirty, five, million dollars a year, and now he's frigging Rockin in it's because he's implementing stuff that we talk about podcasting so. You know it's like a huge selling point to bring all these opportunities. He did that within like two months from nothing. So like the podcast is a frigging Lynch Pin. Yeah. To connections and opportunities. Yeah. Well okay. So Unicorn Equity is with partner with Roland in all Oliver. Right. We met Roland because we asked for the introduction so that we can get him on the podcast rolling came on the podcast. That's how we got to know Roland. We later got invited by Bob Sterling to be a mastermind that Rowland was also in, and then we were able to even get in closer with role and you know with Members Pro Crispin Eddie, he listens to the PODCAST, right? So that connection came directly from somebody who was listening to the podcast the Jay Abraham the reason we're working with. Jay. Abraham now is because we invited him to be on the podcast agreed to be on. We did our interview after we stopped after we hit a record to stop recording. We chatted with them for a little bit longer started talking about project that we've done in the past and he went oh, that sounds interesting. Can you do that for me? That project is a result of this podcast and then yeah and so yeah, you pretty much. I think you covered the branches they're not like the other projects. Now, what I'm hearing is you know from the introduction as let's just say Jay. was from Roland and that was actually a text to me because Jay was looking for some help with some some stuff in their business and you know I was happy to I was definitely happy to help and have a conversation. So big gratitude and props to Roland in. He's probably tired of me saying thank you to him. Even as Madame de big like thanking him way too much because I feel like he has helped us so much and so that door was open because of Roland. And and you mention but really, and then go back a little further bob circling and so a massive shoutout to Mr Sterling I mean you have been absolutely frigging amazing, and like we chat every week I know in some portion or another usually making fun of each other bird pictures. But. That's it's awesome and he's a great friend of ours and. For that mastermind I mean that got us very close to rolling quickly but also a whole group of amazing folks in that mastermind. Yeah and so you reconnected with Bob Stirling by inviting him to be on our podcast. Bright. You reached out to invited me on this podcast and. I'll tell you reconnected with him. So how did you actually get to know Bob in the first place? It was it I think it's Dan Ryan. Well, no, no no. From the first place we mentioned by name, but he has to question I see his name on the list. So. I think I'm obligated to he told me. Well if you will when we asked the question that he asked then dad go make sense. Okay. So a named Guy Name possibly Dan Ryan. he goes further back than him. This goes back to when I was running a video agency all that stuff with Mike Kane eggs. So shadow to Mike Kane eggs, I did craft work with Mike for many years and He referred me to Bob for doing like a PDF, like a nice looking yearbook thingamajig. So I just did a single project with Bob maybe five years ago six years ago something like that and It was a one off project had like one. Call ever but we hit it off. Him is all cool and but that was kind of it wasn't like it was kind of transactional and away all good and in den. But I knew us a licensing guy because the project was all about licensing and that's when Dan Ryan creeped up and he was like Hey bob I need some licensing stuff or something around that regard, and then that got me to connect those guys I'm like Oh yeah I can connect you guys. In that. Can it triggered? Yeah. That will thank that's when Bob pop back up and then that's when he popped back up I think that's when we brought him on the podcast and then it's been a bre ship ever since Bro Ship Bromance I was keeping it at bruce ship Bro ship. I mean that's just a new term to me. Well, it's just as good as bromance right I just came up with it. Bros if pat? Rubab broken those are things to brew Bob Rubab. We're going to be using that robot when you listen to this text me and. Let me know your this. Yeah. When when I email him a lot of times I'll say Babo for some reason like in my head when I read it back, I read it as Bobo. That's cool. Anyway. So that's I don't know how to do this. It's not going to say this is what's interesting. Feel like we're we're creating a tree right now we're just talking about all sorts of like we're kind of at the top right now still. Yeah. There's a lot of stuff like different projects. So we just went down like vein of you know like the Bob Surly mastermind role in brain brain. Canings then See. This is what I'm saying like there's so maybe I'm just going to interview you on. How you made connections to people. I'll take him back. Yeah I mean th they'll intertwined. canings popped up from my good buddy David Klein decays. Amazing event that he needs to restart, and if you've ever been there I know unnamed man name Dan Ryan maybe was there and this is how I met. Dan is through de que as well and So Dan's been mentioned. So many times it's this gay Lynch, Pin, David Klein and. Shout to decay a lot of people know him. He's a chiropractor was chiropractor is a chiropractor and I met. All these people hear him. He had this think tank event If is like I don't know sixty, eight, hundred people Max probably one hundred, but it was like no pitching it was just hanging out for like a whole weekend or something on the beach just doing cool shit. Yeah. With entrepreneurs sliding decay you knew because he was chiropractor proctor, but we don't need to go back farther than. I'm sure it keeps going back. I'm trying to remember decay connection. There's no we're dinner with decay and I think Mike Phil same was even at that dinner is in downtown you were there. We met decay at a dinner that we went to with someone else during. A Mitch. Wasn't the dinner it was like in. Mich- note I met A. Think think-tank as well. Through decay decay was my pin there, oh? Okay. So, media, he's been on the show as well as partners with him on a project back in the day couple of projects and worked with him he yeah he's he was back in the Frank Kern as we were watching emiss- And Yeah that was like when we were just of starting out. So Frank. Yeah I'm just thinking of those like launch days I. Guess. Yeah. Years like twenty Tanisha Eleven. That's when like everybody just had like a two thousand dollars exemption. Same thing replicated over and over and over again yeah. So I met so going to decay really quick here Com de David. Klein he ran think-tank think tank was an event I. Think it went there twice I think Iran for three years and then he stopped why needs to bring it back because? Anyone. Who's been there has been like do those the best event just because it was just like you're chilling at the beach all day but everything's provided for you and you're hanging out with like literally the Cherry pick people and the way I got in there is I think I was helping decay on some projects I was paying him as a Chiropractor, but I knew in gotta remember who connected me to decay someone told me no is that that dinner but like how I got to that dinner but either Way I just liked that guy and I think we just hit it off were I got an invite their so does able to get into those people. So I met my canings there. I remember he was like, yeah, he came Zidane is Tesla in his yellow little tesla this first one that he made a documentary about and decay introduced me to him because decay new trying to get work I was trying to basically do all the keynotes slide presentations vsel's like wasn't really webinars then it was all video. You know pitches and videos and stuff like that. So Mike Keane eggs did a lot of those in decay. Knew that. So we made that introduction happen I worked at canings for friggin three or four years, and still I'm gonNA mastermind with them now. Yeah. So it was it was it something related to? The Henry Evans meetings because that was almost like maybe if we go if I'm going back to like ours, I can remember the first sort of networking kind of events that we went to in the business world were put on by Henry Avenue. That was then yeah he preceded decay and all that for sure. Yeah. So I'm wondering if it was like through a connection from somebody Henry's meetings I I we were downtown for sure I think you were there and I. I think it was at like after one of those launch like maybe a fragrance control or something like that. Seriously I think it actually was. Because that's where I remember at decays. think-tank event is where frank actually did pop into one of those days that we were doing masterminding and. I'm actually able to. Him It was like, no one else wanted to go surfing with frank. Fuck it. Sure. So him and I D frigging surfed and it was just him and. That was Kinda cool. I suck he was way better shitty. Serve I just remember it being a pain in the I'm like this is cool. but that was all that was all because of decay. So WanNA give a shout out to him because there's little. Branches in friendships that came from there that insane and everyone day will. Make our own version of an ancestry dot com like map of like how we got here in like all these people wanNA. Yeah. So world should I go from here? Matt I WANNA make sure that we're 'cause I want to go back to really what we were saying like Josh Bartlett shows up in this whole line. Going back to like I want to give out to where we started started. Yeah. We're I. Think we're a little too focused on trying to start at the end and then go backwards I think maybe now we should just jump to the beginning and then somehow it all. Yeah. Because let's just say throw this. We really got started online in this course from Alex Jeffreys Yeah. So big shout at to Alex and we've got to have him on the show we've been talking about do far too long. Yeah. So like talk about that because that whole era there was like the catalyst to our online ventures. Yeah. So this is this is what we were talking about in the car. We were trying to remember some of the like the very, very first memories of US getting into like online marketing. I remember I was working at artisan, the Shutter Company and Just like in the evenings, it'd be like on the warrior forum reading articles a first blogs I remember reading where ladies and shoe monies and like. You know we're meet was about like personal finance and in you know investments and stuff like that, and then shoe money talked about affiliate marketing and stuff like that and I think because of the shoe money blog, I discovered the warrior for them and I started going down this warrior forum route and lived in the form while I was supposed to be working at the center. Of his working there at the time and. I would clearly remember this all the time in the afternoon. Mainly, Matt would always look pissed if he walked in there and they asked him a question related to work. I was like what the fuck like you're working right Really. Completely in a different world Adams always in because then you would say hold on 'cause sometimes you'd be like, Hey, check this thing out. Doing this all right fuck work. What you learn about Google ads in Seo. But yeah. That was see alert about that the other day when you mentioned that. So the warrior form. So, then we trying to figure out like how did I how do we find like Alex? Jeffreys found Alex Jeffreys because Justin Brooke tweet about him and I was actually following just in Brooke I think somebody mentioned him on the warrior for something I can't recall how I got connected to Justin, but he had a website called sate fling that I was a fan of. Read it was basically about flipping websites. And I I was I was doing some like some freelance website work for some friends of my parents on their websites in. Learning about wordpress and things like that like in the off hours and so when I when I came across just in sight and I was already doing blogging stuff I started to get these ideas of, oh I. could build up a blog and then I, could sell it. So I kind of started going down that rabbit hole of flipping websites and then just in brook like was an affiliate of. Alex Jeffreys and he tweeted about it I saw his tweet we bought Alex's course and then that just sort of now that that spider webs and a whole bunch of relationships. Yeah and so that's that's a well well explain there and we both during that period was. So we'll. We'll do this. This will be interesting. So I'm just going to give you like you are here on the map right now. You're at our catalysts. This we're talking about joining Alex Jeffreys. We'll talk about the before side in a minute. So you know like before that, I want to talk about at the Shudder Company mean what we're reading and all that kind of stuff too because there's a couple of people that really kicked it off before then to. At least for me mentally and thinking of business, and then after which we can do now hopefully, people listening to this don't care about the linear storytelling. WELL WE'RE NOT LINEAR Man. Yeah. So The after part of joining that coaching course with Alex was we met amazing people. So what Josh Bartlett is probably the longest standing of the probably the biggest impact connection that came out of that hundred percent. So shadow to Josh I, mean he's opened up so many doors and he was the first guy that told me are the only your like basically pushed me into do videos like new this stuff back in the day So you know he kind of pushed me to create a niche for myself and that that created my initial network. Yeah. Purpose here I know he he he pushed you into. Push yet but recommended website stuff were at the time I was doing like freelance work for I had a couple of clients by this point that was doing some freelance work for and Josh. was actually the one who suggested like instead of doing freelance work why don't you make videos teach people how to do this stuff but you could sell access to the videos and you can stop doing freelance. You could just sell access to these videos and then I was like that's a good idea. I can make a wordpress training course and he's like, yeah, you could call it the wordpress classroom I just checked the domain names available like he was doing all that. And then. So I bought the domain name and then like the next day he sent me like A. File A photoshop file. He's like Dude I. I did a mockup of your websites for you and he literally like mocked up the wordpress classroom design and Photoshop. It had a chalkboard and everything. and. So. So basically because we we we joined the alyx group got into the form I met Josh. We both met Josh. Right. Josh. basically recommended by first business model if he named it for me and he designed the website. and. Then for for Joe at the same time I, believe Josh was Joe's first video client all that's exactly what I was about to say, yeah. He in that video client or the business was easy video player. So like not just a tiny little opportunity like that thing went into a million dollar plus launch or something I mean the thing crushed name win video players like you know people don't really have good options so he made it easy but yeah, I did all the videos they're prelaunch video sales videos. So he he gave me really more structure than I ever knew around that stuff you pointed. To the resources that I should be studying the the best practices he gave me a shit ton of coaching in terms of like what to You know just how to present things even all the way down to like tonality of your voice I remember that like that like elections and stuff because I do the voice overs for a lot of this stuff and it would sound kinda monotone but I didn't know it. You know but I was like Oh, shit yeah I gotTA. Put Energy into this thing and piecing in things like that. Yeah. Yeah. So big earache props to him and I mean as far as like. In the business world people who had like the biggest impact on the projector of our Business Josh is probably like the biggest impact Yeah. Would say like because I mean Josh pretty much led to like every other spiderweb well. That's the beauty of he got in early. If, you think about it like because of him I mean so many other things have opened up. He is the one that really told us. This is the recent thing and we made a whole episode on it earlier this year that you know to kind of urge us to stay the lean as being promoters and affiliate marketers like we were still to this day he's. Like I'm probably giving us some of the best advice under the direction of business. Well, it's because he knows us for so long. So that's the beauty of like got it. Early, we got an early as a friendship in this in internet marketing or whatever you WANNA call it you know his life he knows us we trust each other. We're like brothers basically at this point like. I mean. We got places to go. If Shit hits the fan here, I'll just say. But. You know what? Country we'd probably most likely move to. There's trust and so I mean that just comes in time I. Think you know yeah. Yeah. I mean a couple notable mentions from Alex Jeffreys Group. That's how we got Dean Hall into who was. Recently on the show who else who else was in that group that we kind of. I mean Marcus. Pass you gotta give them a shat out that guy I don't know if even listen to our show but I hope he yeah, I. Hope. So Marcus and then we still we're still like really great friends with Alex Jeffreys. Alex, we saw him earlier this year rich jeffries event we actually We saw rich effort speak when we were in Alex Jeffreys coaching we all went out to Vegas. And while we were for Alex Jeffrey Seminar that came with the thing that we bought. Rich was one of the speakers and Mike. They'll same was one of the speakers, right so we got to it's crazy man and that was our first time really hanging out at like a conference type of thing you know and then. Parties in. The same weekend that Mike those same was doing his affiliate dot COM VIP party thing you're there for Alex, Jeffreys Event and we were affiliates of one of Mike Phil Simms products. So we actually were going for two events that were all they were happening at the same time, and that's just it was a lot because I was like that was really got tossing the deepened I feel like pretty quickly but Yeah. So props to to obviously Alex for the coaching Josh for. Everything. A lot and Who other people in that group met or there any other woodwind mentions or we can go I mean that's That's where we connected with Rob Temple. I would've been that's right out of talking to his business partner Kennedy. We're with them response, sweeten on them now In that group feel bad. If we miss people I, mean there's a lot of. Quite a few friends in that group. I'm just trying to think of the ones that are you know still operating in this space for the call Joey votto came out of that. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. He was in there. He does videos We've had him on the show. So Yeah, it's interesting but you mentioned rich Shefrin like we're doing work with him now in in a couple of things and in that's he's just an awesome. It's he's one of those folks it's like really rad now. Yeah go ahead. Yeah. No, it's just really cool. Yeah. We're doing that project with him on what J. as well combined. it's it's interesting how it goes like he was one of the first initial books that we were recommended to read from. Josh was rich Chevron's manifesto. Internet business manifesto as I said, Internet marketing manifesto before. But yeah. That was the first thing and and we're talking to earlier. Felt like was over my head when I read it like we just weren't ready for it. It's cool that you know we are ready for it now. Obviously, but it's You know that way of thinking is really changed our doing things. Yeah. Yeah. For sure So then like how do we? How do we connect this story line now? Because I we'll fairly yeah because he hit all. He sort of like inner. We've always like that. There's times where you're kind of working in your business and I'm in my and then we kind of converged for a little bit and then separate for a bit. We Really WanNa get into all the details there I just WanNa make sure that we're. Shout the people that were like the the sort of pivotal people along the way That comes to mind is like going even further back. I was telling you earlier today that I think the very first business book I ever read before I, Read Rich Dad Poor Dad before I read four hour work week. Any of that kind of stuff was the with yeah and literally today the day that we're recording this episode, we've been having emails back and forth with Michael Gerber because he's GonNa. Come on the podcast and I'm just I'm just like holy. Shit, like this is going back even further full circle. Let's let's touch on that because I think that'll shore that piece up as we can because. Yeah like that's the goes way back you read it before I did the proper on the same time where we're both starting this thinking I don't know what triggered that but like I was working at shedder company with you you're. You know playing with your dinghy over there and the warrior form in your office I always like in the phones of is like kind of in the middle of everything. So he also ran the factory at the same time I. Know You're doing a lot is the factory left at two fifteen and I was supposed to stay at the office till five? Yeah. So Five when we're going to do exactly that was the point. Really. I'm like the factories closed. We'd be alone. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Pretty much. There's some other things I want to say to. appropriate. Scares you say it well, you would take the longest dumps I remember that because I think you were just always on your. I. Don't recall this ever because there's only one frigging bathroom in. Like that. It'd be eventually built a second bathroom eventually. I was the Cadillac you're. Probably. Had lobbied cab. T by Way Eastern scared you. Guess But. Yeah. No, there was a installation guy there an installer Larry right I don't know his last week you give the longest dumps. In. The in the open room areas when. I go there. That's A tangent we want to go down. Leary wasn't the cleanest individual to say that but you know a lot of love to that guy, I don't know where he's at or what he's doing. But that guy I remember connecting with him because like those guys are all contractors, right? Like they're installing and measuring all that stuffer for Your Dad's company Shudder, company, and you and your mom's and basically like I go and ride sometimes from his very messy Stinky van. For how the but like the conversation was always good. It was all about like different ways of thinking was a lot of mindset stuff and then he started talking about running a business in like getting out of the dollar per hour rate and how like going flat rate are you know in investing and stuff like that and I was like we're just really into it so he's set no. Finally one day I was working at the whatever the little desk thing on the phones and stuff and he came by and like drop this book on my desk and it was rich Dad Poor Dad. Robert Kiyosaki and he was like I. Think he really going to like this one? Dislike changed my life and my. GNOCCHI and that's pretty heavy words you know. So I did and I like gobbled it up fast. So that was my very first book that like. Catalysts and then I told you about it and you've never read it. So you did and then you basically you're like holy crap to yeah and I. think that was like the combined like. All right. Let's do some about this. Let's make something of this because I feel like smart enough to make something happen here. Yeah, and then I remember I was at the Barnes and noble in Mission Valley and. I was like a like I just finished rich dad poor dad and I was like that book was so good. I, want to find something else like that, and so I was walking through the business section f you know how like whenever there's books they Wanna feature they kind of like turn them out. So you can see him there is one that I walked past called the four hour workweek as like. A picture of like to palm trees in like a dude line in the hammock right and I'm like. Split looks legit I liked already. So I picked it up and was like looking at it and I think on the back there was a testimonial from Robert Kiyosaki or something like that. or or there was like a sticker on the front said like for if for fans of Rich Dad poor dad or I don't remember there was something like tied it to rich Dad Poor Dad. Yeah and I'm like all right I'm getting this book. I wouldn't got that book and I read through it and I was like. You. Rich Dad Poor Dad's GonNa Change Your Life. Check this worn out. I did yeah you're right hundred percent and so. That's cool. But that was that was the Of, just thinking Dan Ryan we need to thank him. There's another little branch there. We got a cover. But just to wrap this section of Yeah like back to rich dad poor dad man that was it, and then that was where we like really started diving in I think the blogging stuff and then figuring out how to make some cash through that. And we were just like we had no direction no coaching and that's when we found. Alex Jeffreys through just broke. Yeah. Yeah. Like we knew we wanted to do like Internet based business, but that's about as far as like we had thought it through we're like, no what are how we spend enough time at this computer people should be sending US money right like. We couldn't figure out like like we actually need to figure out a way to provide value to other people like that wasn't on our radar yet we were just like if I my mind I was like if I spend enough time reading the war forum somebody is going to have this get rich quick thing that's going to work. The way my brain was working at the time it was like I am going to find like all of these get rich quick things can't be scams. There's gotta be like at least a couple good ones. So this is planned to not lose all my money on. Them but at least enough to find out the window. So that's going to War Room I. Worry for which is like I'm like, one of these get rich quick schemes is gonNA work eventually. So. Finally, hit Y-. Man. That's yeah. So that's cool. It's so crazy. So all right I don't think it's anyone else to think before I I don't think that's A. I think it is it. On a jump to Dean Ryan. We have to. I know. We have to pay him every time we say. So I was GONNA say given nickname then. POOP head. Those the best no I I I don't know I'm not good at this. What do you got Ryan Daniels You're just making him sound like he's. He's cool or something. Just. Just. Go ahead. Let's tell where were you going with Dan Ryan Poop. So he know. Vick shallow because he was taught us the frigging Google strategies he did. This the stuff. That's like the backbone for a lot of our traffic. Okay. So here's how that. That's why we're talking about. So I didn't know Dan Ryan very well, I think I was in ru me I, got connected through to Dan Ryan because. Actually, I got connected the Dan Ryan because of amy from Henry's meetings. Get a shadow henry after this now too. Yeah. We've I mentioned Henry earlier too but But yeah. So Amy who the strong marriage now, amy she she invited me to mastermind and. Mastermind and went to the mastermind. Dan. was also in that master, but you had already known him from. Tanks from decay. Specifically he used to just hang out creep in decay. He's the Chiropractor I would go get my back cracked and. D K it would be like, Hey, Joe, your inter marketer you should know this weird creepy guy named Dan Ryan in the back room that's always creeping around on my computer. Anywhere berkinstocks all the time in plaid. Ripped jeans and. Stop describing me please. No He's still looks that way. Longer beard now. Thank. But yeah, he was in the back room and I don't know what we talked about but stuff. Yeah marketing but like event, that's how I met him and then he was cool. So every time I went in there I would always just sit in that room and we'd riff about some random crap and then that's about it and then that eventually yeah. Then think tank was really I think we're start. Yeah Talk. So I met I, met I met Dan because Dan was in amy's mastermind, but you had already sort of previously known him. So you kind of re introduced me at that mastermind right but anyway, like fast forward to a little bit later, we were up living in Marietta and we're moving back to San Diego. But when we're moving back to San Diego like we sold our house before we had blocked down a house in San Diego. So actually moved in with my wife's parents for like three months while we were house hunting and. I, didn't have an office space I. didn't have anywhere to work, and that's very great for an at home business right? So I didn't have a place to work at my in-laws House that was really great. So I went online and on facebook and said, hey, does anybody have like Nova good office space I can user where's a good place to rent or executive suites or anything I just I need a space to work and Dan Ryan like Hey I got an office you can rent from me. and. I only met him like maybe maybe twice before that the mastermind maybe three times at the mastermind and I was like cool I'll come check it out. I would over there was above a brewery. Then location. Above a brewery and like a lot of a shoot. Bingo Bingo. Store? Yeah. There's Jason. Walk through the Bingo store to get to our offices because like we're on the second floor. Stairway was in the back of the BINGO store. So literally, like bingoed stamps in Lake Old lady in the ball with the numbers on them and all that stuff that's what they sold and. Walk through the Bingo store to the stairs that were in the back of the building and the office was above the Bingo store. But like next to it below downstairs was a brewery. So I think in that window that that I was working in that Office for a few months and then when you move back from Chicago, you moved into that office too. But during those those months I think I probably gained like thirty pounds because we had can happy hour every day every frigging day cakes and you're above above brewery like, yeah, we had to have two kegs in this office that was only thirty feet from. Rent that is true. I. Can't Complain Because Yeah like Yeah. We standing invitation to more office space and our rent is always never paid money. He just let he had us buy them beer. At. So anyway, getting back to how Dan Tatas Google ads it was when I was working in that office space I was I was running my podcast in at the time was the authority insider podcast. But I was still trying to affiliate marketing stuff and I started to promote thrive cart and Dan I was I was running a lot of facebook ads to thrive cart never touched Google ads in years and Dan's do you guys really experiment with Google ads again I'm like Dude I. Know Nothing about him. He's like a what to do and so again literally came into our office which was next door. So his and like stood over me I, turned on screen flow. And hit record and just like as he literally stood behind me and said, all right click that button there right open that window type this here. All right turn that setting on that setting on that setting on, and he literally just like like over my shoulder like explain can to step by step with Google ads until like I had it figured out and I was recording the whole damn thing on screen flow so I could go back and refer to it later and From that day on, we became very proficient at Google ads really really quick kidding every time I had an issue like every time I'm like damn this not performing I'd be like a den take a look at this ad what do you think of it maybe like Oh. Yeah. You turn that setting off you'll get more more qualified volume if you turn that setting I and I'm just like cool. All right and I just sort of like mentally built a blueprint based on what Dan was telling me. Yeah which later sort of spun off into what we teach the P. G. Course. Yeah. So it's And that's a backbone of how we do a lot of promotions and it's it's wild so. Yeah that's damn. That's cool. Yeah. So I, mean like I guess the reason why we're talking about this is like give thanks to all these folks I think it's really cool. I. Think There's a lot more people I think we hit the the biggies. Yeah. I gotta I gotTA. Talk about Bradley will probably from any Oh yeah Yeah. Do it so and then I'll actually give a shout to me as well. Yeah. So like why so Bradley was I mean he's a big piece of my story, right like. More of a piece of your story. This is the portion that now this is this kind of merges. Really this is this is like it was like a fuzzy area but emerges as well. Yes. Yeah. It's an interesting time, but we're always there to support literally it was when I was partnered with Bradley and you're partnered with a Michel like getting towards the end of those businesses we were both kind of I think you and I were sort of connecting again more over the fact that like. We were over certain aspects of the current business we were. We're just transitioning out of them. Really. Yeah. We kind of needs for me like I hit the the marks that I think. I. Was able to in that one. Yeah, and like it was just time I think for both of us to change. Yeah. So Bradley. So I had the wordpress classroom, which was the company I mentioned. Josh really helped me within the beginning. and. I was like you know a few years into it. It was generating pretty good consistent revenue. But. It was. You know it was leveled off right. I was making pretty much the same amount every month I was kind of not growing very much. In you and I actually met Bradley for the First Time at the Action Seminar John Carlton Seminar on Time Ago Those I don't know probably twenty, ten, twenty eleven. But so. Bradley was having had its show I forget what it was called. Yes. UNCHAINED or unstrapped. Strapped. It was like a youtube reality show I wonder. Whether online entrepreneurs, it was like the real world, but everybody's entrepreneurs trying to a company. But on that documentary that they were making, they were building a company called free blog factory. That's what the documentary series they made was all about. So Well that free blog factory company sort of all split up, there was some sort of falling out I don't even I mean I'm sure. Bradley. told me the details but I don't I don't remember him to this day but they had some sort of falling out but Bradley ended up with the free blog factory brand and system, and so we got connected with Bradley at the Action Seminar. connected. Chatted a little bit. He had a blogging related company I add a blogging related company. So we conducted over that for a little bit but I don't think I talked to him for like maybe a year or two after that. And, then we somehow reconnected. I think he emailed me I had a list in the word press. Spacey's like Hey can we run our Webinar for free blog factory to your list and I said sure let's do it. We did A. Together was. Really, really really well, actually I made some really good commissions working with them. And I don't. I don't remember how the conversation came up but at some point, we're like, dude, why don't we just like combined efforts like you're out there teaching blogging I've got like a cool sort of systematic way that just automatically installs blogs four people, but just merge them when when people sign up for a free blog through our system, we install it for them. We can upsell them to your training and staff. Let's just like combine them. So At. The time I was kind of getting nervous because my brand was growing and growing and it was called the wordpress classroom wordpress is a trademark stupid idea. Yeah. Right. So I was kind of worried about the branding. So Bradley and I, kind of agree to partner up and rebrand to learn to blog, and so we ran learn to blog dot com for I don't know three or four years together in and grew it to a pretty good size. And He was the one who got me to like. Really, get comfortable with with running ads running facebook ads. Before then I'd never been running ads like wordpress classroom. Prior was never ever ever add clearly concern was affiliate marketing content marketing blogging forums that kind of stuff like I was just boots on the ground just frigging on the boots on the moon. Now she's like totally boots on the ground just like. Khan contributing everywhere. I could to get people to come to the wordpress classroom and and that was also part of my warrior forum journey was you could put a signature down in the in their like are one of our very for strategies. Yeah. Traffic was that go and be helpful in forums but have a good signature. That's great. So that's how I was doing the wordpress classroom Bradley came in. He's like dude, you're doing it the hard way like I got this buddy. Kurt. Molly and Kurt he he's a fricken wizard like you put one dollar in you take. SPITS two dollars back at you like we got like. Like. This I I'd been in the game for you know six or seven years by by this point, my list was maybe. Three thousand people after all of that time right and. So, I wasn't growing fast but I was making a living off of it. You know. and. So when Bradley came in and we got connected with Kurt and Kurt started running ads for us like next thing I know like, okay. We're running a thousand dollars adspend two, thousand ad spend three, thousand four. We don't have to wear spending Grand Frick and month and had spent and I was like holy good rap like how did we get to this and we grew our email list like one hundred, twenty, thousand subscribers in like a year or something like that and then just like these like he showed me that like through advertising, you can just pour fuel on the shit you know. He he's sort of unlocked. Broke a fear in me that the fear of spending ad money like putting money in to get money back I thought the way to do it was create content, offer the content for sale, but the way to get people over to where you're selling it is to just put out more content and shows how good you are so that people want more of you and he showed me like food no fucking sales letter run ads to it. Let's see what happens. I. Love It. Now in Kurt Kurt is a big piece is still big piece of what we do as well. So shout to him Yeah that's cool. theon Bradley. He's he's interesting story just how that's meshed up and then I guess I'll kick it back to my side. So with them each we've mentioned him earlier as well. He came I met him over at think-tank decays event and. I think I was introduced as like a slide guy video kind of production guy there from decay as well and Both these guys, canings, you make my canings Amini Shem at a bunch of other like people that are still chat with from think tank as well. But like yes, I don't know I just hit it off with image pretty well and I think we quickly started chatting further I helped mouth with all various projects ended up partnering on a couple of things still like now he's one of my best friends like music amazing guy and we. Chat all the time and like it's just it's just pretty cool because he was one learning from when I was starting out You know like early days watching all these launches and being an awe like holy crap. You know the now being really good buddies with the guy in like hearing all the stories of what happened and how they did that in how crazy it was for them and the Mayes and the lows like you know just like I. I think what I'm grateful. Actually the most about him specifically with immediately and I. Think he shared a lot of this on the podcast we did with him years ago sprang back onto with him. He's been up to a lot of big thing because now you're yeah, he is and you know him better now as well. Long time to really know him much. Yeah. Yeah. But Yeah so With him I have I think I've been very fortunate that I saw his. you know like his deep our lowest points in his life like it wasn't when I met him. I met him right after that point. But he told me all about these things and he's been very clear about these for a while. I don't think he told anybody I was like one of those folks he told me just how you after all these crazy successes he you know to bought a bunch of stuff. Stuff, he didn't end up liking cars and big houses and stuff like that and like just felt like empty inside and and very depressed and suicidal, even all that and. It got me to quickly see that. Okay. It's not the things that I'm going to become going after like flock you know like I. If, I'm hearing from the dude himself and I saw that he had all those things and it's like it's not bullshit. And then you know you always hear these stories of it but then I'm like knitted okay that like I think trained me from day one before I like really kind of figured out what the Hell I was doing I was like. All right. Cool. So I gotTa make sure my priorities are in check because I don't WanNa do that and I think he was wise in kind of knowing that like, Hey, I'm Gonna learn something from this. Yeah. So that sad gratitude to him and I mean he's introduced me to so many people to clients other partners. Obviously good friend to yeah. This is this is tough because like as we're talking about this, like my mind is goes to like three people. I'm just like Oh dude. Not Talking I. So if you like quick because I think we are getting a little long. Yeah. I I don't our for almost to an hour and we're still going to do our questions here. So Jam. All right let's look. There's there's a handful of people now that I'm just like okay. So guys like James Ramco yes. So is like An amazing connector led a timer actually for each person one minute purse serious or else we'll be here all night long. Took A. So with James. James is just like this amazing connector like he is connected us with so many different awesome people. It's like whenever he has like a a really good interview on his podcast. He's like that was a good guest. He makes the connection to us and says, you should really interview these people to, and like he's just like such a good guy and he's also always so willing to just like jump on a call with us real quick and like hammer out an idea with. So he's yeah, he's helped us with through agreements with partnerships. He's a with business models we've. We've set. We've been very vocal that we've you know watched his looked at his model really close a building a platform community and how even just. Acts with those folks That's we model that our business laying in a big way and affiliate marketing. Yeah. So we got seventeen seconds anything more. No I was GONNA. Say. So John, TRANSCO was connected to us from Aaron Fletcher. Okay cool so I'll. He'll be the next one. All right. So let's go. So yeah big shoutout to Aaron I. Mean He followed you actually originally yeah he was on the story. Classroom. Yeah. Yeah. So I think he found you first and like Holy Crap Mats G. and here's Aaron Silicon Valley Guy. In Up. More Internet marketing. I guess online business, but do errands just such a cool dude I miss I guy. We haven't seen far too long before the covert thing we were supposed to actually go to the comedy store in La Bonelli Joe Rogan saying he's not even GonNa live in. La. Anymore. So it's like we never gonna be able to pull that BRO trip off. Hopefully. Well, here's the thing we gotta do another podcast with him. you guys if you haven't listened to Aaron on our show in years past, he's been on twice like you're GonNa love him. Yeah. He so cool. But we gotTA do around three. He is a Jujitsu thing in his office now whole thing. So we can kick our ass. Oh, boy sounds like fun. That's why we'RE NOT GONNA record they're. GonNa Beach all right next. Bread Costanzo go. So Brad Costanza. Partners with him but we we bought a business together and we sold the business together. aquisition and exit with him. We did We got connected with him because he came to one of our overtime event. How cool is that Brad? I? Mean like he's just one of us. Like from day one, we started chatting and we're like, oh cool. We speak the same language is GonNa work. That was about that and we just had i. it's just Shit. He's another one I miss man and he knows it and we know it and he's been such a difference maker for like my mindset layup is he's got the or he's got the mental models down. He's got like the like he is just the mindset Ninja and he was the one who led us down the path of buying selling acquisitions dealmaking like he was the one who introduced that world to us. So I I got to give them an extra minute Brad takes a he. He deserves this. So beacon rap business y'all go go check out the podcast dare if if you're Vegan you won't like it but Yeah. So Brad, you need a Vegan version. Waiting. So Brad I mean he's just like the dealmaking side it's is one of those things. Once you learn it and like the way that you can leverage just different business like agreements are just like deals, structures and bartenders in whatever like holy crap you can't unlearn it, and that's where like the thinking Roland has really like that's where we sync up super tight unlike ham learn the stuff that rawlins putting down with business buying and selling and Perry Marshall, yeah we went to a thing in Chicago with Brad you and I. We met all sorts of people but that was all about leveraging like deals and stuff. And yeah ever since then like a lot of our business model is that thing in that's extended to like my wife. She called right before about every recording she's like Oh my God I got offered an advisory board member on a big wedding company. I'm just like. And like. Yeah, this is not a normal way of thinking. Marketers quote unquote. But once you start thinking like higher level and I think even rolling me he did say this the other day is like, okay marketers don't think like businesspeople. But if you start if you're a marketer but you start learning some business skills like this holy Shit, the world opens up to you. Yep. Yep Okay. So we had Bradley will we had Brad Costanzo, and get through it without talking about Brad Spencer 'cause. So Brad Spencer actually gave us J. Abraham's mindshift challenge band holy. Shit that book change our lives I would say so all the way to the point where were we just had a great chat with Jay yesterday as the Davis recording we were talking to J on a call. Yesterday and we're literally partnering on a project with them. Yeah. But debt mindshift challenged. So everyone she get their hands on that I don't know exactly where to get that right now. Maybe TRY ABRAHAM DOT COM or I don't know if we'll be able to find link and put it in the show notes as a resource. But who it's like one hundred pages I believe at the time according it's free. But Brad sent that and he was like dudes you gotta read this. Yeah, and we did and again it's like all these examples of lateral ways of doing deals and the Oh, I'm Brad Spencer goes all the way back to the warrior for days for me back when I was reading the warrior for him that was when I got connected with him jumped on a skype call him on the warrior for Plow and to this day I have a call with Brad Spencer about once a month and we just talked for like three hours You're going to peel off some time like when you chat with Brad and everyone can attest this. You'RE GONNA go deep and he is sodium curious and sodium smart and so damn like lateral thinking. Yeah. Like I'm going to split this into two episodes that'll be as special three hundred episode part one in a special three, hundred episode part to. Finish off our gratitude, and then in our part two, which will come out the same day. So it'll be ready. Part, we'll be like US answering the questions. So Dongting looking. Yeah. So up our download numbers this month. Pays the bills, right? Yes. It's a podcast or lie by the way y'all if your podcast and you think you need more Dallas, make. Shit. All right. Yeah but spent yeah that thinking man I think Brad was the two brads to Brad's were really the dudes that. So we had our marketing chops had say Josh was a big catalyst to help us in that front Y- point us in the right directions like business wise because he was, he had the Biz has the business since Bartlett we're talking about but also a good marketing sense for everything to so would that we had a good foundational thing that you like the three of us would hop on calls all the time skype all the frigging time I remember. So we have that foundation. But then like now we're layering on the more lateral thinking bigger partnership collaboration thinking from the two brads. Into Jay Abraham type things and all these interesting role in. Harry Marshall Harry Br Perry Marshall is going back to Brad. He dragged us out to the. Was Present Estonian Yeah. So it. It's crazy. I mean I I just had another name in mind but it's a Lost it. Got Oh man shoot. I'm actually I think I'm getting. There's there's a lot of good people. FREAKING Henry Evans so Henry obviously how did we come across G K? We got we got introduced G K C the Dan Kennedy Glazer Kennedy their. Bill Glazer Kennedy. We got introduced to those guys well, Josh Bartlett. He was the one who introduced us Dan Kennedy He told us to get the NO BS Time Management Book. That's that was the first Kennedy Book I ever read was amazing and that was a Josh Bartlett recommendation. And I think in the back of this this book, they always have A. A sort of pitch and it says, Hey, look for a local. Chapter, in your area. And I think you and I like went on the website and we're like Oh shit there's a San Diego Chapter of G. K I see. In the first meeting is free and you and I were like, let's do it. Let's go out to this meeting and that's when we met Henry Evans. That's when we met Josh Realo Grillo awesome pickles the other day and it says grill pickles I was actually about to take a picture I. Forgot to do this but who's going to send it to like make really good pickles. I'm and chat with him and years but I'm sure he's awesome. Yeah. But that that's where we met were met those guys amy. Barnhart who led to the mastermind who Pat Flynn was actually in one of those mastermind meetings to Christine That's where we met Christine mcdaniel. That's where we met feel looser who's been on our podcast two times podcasting came right through Henry Evans right I mean did that's where we had We watched you know interesting presentations we got to meet a glazer, Bill Glaser we met John. Out. Through Two that's right. wrote in a taxi with them to K. C meet in trae yeah up in super. San Francisco before Uber is a thing actually is the different service. Maybe we lift or something it was before that some other service I don't even remember, but it was black cars and like you know. Bolers for John Asser. APPS we pay for it wasn't even that much more though and like, yeah we that was like our first ball in moment. Remember that we I think I hired it on my phone and I was like, okay, cool. We're getting like an escalator whatever and yeah, we're going from SF owed to downtown San Francisco and like asking me the train smells like Piss. We're going to get this thing and get a guy to seek to drive us we're. We weren't making ship for money. But then you know. Henry. was there. We we all took our flight up there and yeah John Asser F was right there in the airport. We're all going up there for TNC right? Oh. Yeah. I was TNC. That was yeah, and we all take. The same flight and John John Lewis Little, awesome. was like, do you WanNa just hop in our car. And he's like, who? Yeah, John Barrett we met John Barrett through Henry. Avenue. Meetings. came. A good buddy of ours. We briefly partnered on we did some stuff. Agency I believe is what is thing is yeah, I forget but Y- John is such an awesome guy. He's always been such a solid consistent guy in terms of he's just A. techie but marketing Ninja. Works with but Henry yet he still in the mastermind with us with Bob Sterling Henry's. Actually, looking to my Texan a c one of his texts here when he was reminding me that because we're relate to a master meeting. He held a great mastermind that we were members of for a long time as well. We met a ton of people. So that was my first experience of like a legit mastermind and like how that works late. Okay. We're here to help each other. We're all different businesses. Oh. I know like brings something to the table. Yeah. Well, that was when I realized that like Holy Shit Internet marketing isn't like the only thing in the world I was in that mastermind and I was like one of two people in the group that was focused on. Market, the other guys were like real estate people direct mail, take report auto repair guy. WHO's litter? Yeah like one of them was like. Esther capital equities guy see it's Crowley owned a frigging cheese company, but it was fifty million dollars a year cheese companies I. You and I felt like a joke in these groups that was like the impostor syndrome probably started there in the room and I'm like. I made sixty thousand dollars last year in my pocket and the and like the guy next to me, he's running a company selling cheese and making fifty million dollars a year and that imposter syndrome kick did like in the masterminds. Best when I that. But I think that was like so good for us to like to learn about business like Holy Shit Internet marketing isn't the only thing I think is the biggest grwoth lever that we've forced ourselves into, and it is a thanks to Josh. Got Us out of our comfort zone. I. Mean I know you did toastmasters to. For that Thomas Mangum, there you go. So mangum chat out but yeah, like frigging Cassie, we traveled a bunch of places to so we go to these super conferences went to Chicago ton at times Vegas, you know with Henry a lot of times as well and the whole gang there John Christine I mean the whole Ted, you know the Oh. But jazz it's it's crazy. Yeah. I think we throw herself in the deepen pretty quick and a lot of. It was a pretty fast right in the beginning. We're like, Hey, let's do internet business and we're like, okay and then I signed up for toastmasters we started going to. Meetings we jumped into a Alex Jeffreys coach and like we just went brecon before worse. Yeah and we were both working or I think you and I like pushed each other and it's like I was just on my own. I don't know if I would have done it. If you're just on your I don't know if you were. But like we're both sort of like well, I don't really want to but he does like in our minds. But neither of US really wanted to be doing it. Did and and I don't think we would have done it ourselves. Yeah. Definitely. We would stay a lot more comfort level I do think you would I force each other out of the comfort zone a bit I mean like I was never into the speaking thing and you just you would go sign us up for speaking gigs and you're like, Hey, we're doing a speaking gay go fuck. Figure this out. And it's funny because like I reached a point where I never liked speaking when I was younger number but I was like screw it I've really feel like we can pull this off because it seems like we can carry i. you know what it was. Actually he was Henry now I think about it because he would always pull us up there in front of the whole meeting that was you know took toastmasters always nervous because the G. KFC meetings I was like I could get up anytime yet. So I started doing the toastmasters because like I want to be comfortable when I get up in front of people and toastmasters for me was just about the repetition. I'm up in front of people less care, and that's I think what what happened and I never did toastmasters I probably would have benefited a lot from it but at the same time now I think we forced ourselves in just do the repetitions a lot. Yeah. I got really good at going like, okay. That thinks slightly out of our comfort zone. Let's do it. It's almost like. It's a whole thing of you don't want to go further outside of your comfort zone or your abilities I think Kotler might have said this Stephen and I think Nick Nick Peterson has something on this as well. But like you WanNa go just enough is Kotler actually on some about flow. It's just enough out of your comfort zone where you're not going to be like to super and stressed and figure it out like a brand new. Think it's just enough to keep pressing a little bit more a little bit more and that's why I feel like we've done quickly. But yeah, we do that a lot. Yeah. All right. Thank you Henry Man There's just. Look through his text messages and there's another one. There isn't any so we've talked about. The here's the thing though we've talked about all the people that have had like the growth impact on our marketing skills. We've had the talk about the people that have had the big growth impact on our business skills. We haven't really talked about the people that have like the. Mindset mental skills and Marco. Rubio. Aaron. More recently like you know some of these names we gotta give some quick shout outs to so mark's I. Mean This guy? Came through a Dan Ryan actually sell big. That's how that connection is and marks just from day one I think he was T- that we're repeat at pretty nicely from Dan and and basically he wanted to help us out. So he did and and like he's always kinda been there in our corner, we've done mentoring calls like he's kind of done a Lotta mindset stuff with us definitely has not kind he taught us like. To look back and you start this whole journaling journaling process and recording process and kind of work through our own limitations from way back when so you can like give you start kind of pluck and all these things life just kind of gets a little easier. He's the one that was telling us recently to like, Hey, schedule fun instead of business I fun I and like don't sacrifice the reason why even have your own business like you're GonNa work better you'll probably definitely make. A lot more money actually because you're forcing yourself constraining. So I mean other other than the like the mindset stuff and you know the all all the stuff that helped us with that side of things. He also has been like a mega connector for us as well and connected like he was our connection to David. Allen on the PODCAST I mean there's been a handful of guests that he connected us with but kind of drawing a blank on which they were up. He was on the David Allen episode with us. Yeah. And we've done various episodes with him and in I mean we've had a lot of cool connections and he came through Dan Ryan. That's I said Yeah. So yeah, we gotta pay them again though you just said his name again. Yeah. There's bills racking up enough this half penny per per shout out. Well, I don't know if we can afford that. So Yeah. Good. Schatz. I kind of feel like we should probably wrap this up though okay. We can go ahead and wrap this up. I would feel like crap if there's any like big pivotal people that we missed there I don't think we're perfect but there's a lot of folks that if you if you are. If you're mad that we did not mention your name right to us and we will meet make sure you get a mentioned later. There, yeah. That'll cover. We'll know I don't know. Names on this list I'm looking at like, Justin. MOFFATT as he just in in Lee from The podcast just recently responsible for like most connections in the podcasting world. Does. Suggested leave from from optimum living daily. From the guys podcast. Optimal Living, daily Biden is just what we call them the old guys but Yeah. Miss Those guys we should reach out. But yeah, those guys opened up kind of like our. That's a very good point. All right. They are Lynch to that podcasting education conference space with Chris at podcast. They were listeners of our podcast. They actually wrote in Justin listened in. If they wrote US wanted to have a call like bouncing ideas around podcasting off of us. It was just a very like out of the blue email like, hey, love to chat with you guys sometime got on a call with them and we like hit it off. Really well chatted for like an hour. Went up in Irvine one time rode the train up and him got to know him really well, and they just like they open doors for us in the podcasting space because they're podcast is massive and so like they were, they made all these connections we got to know, Christopher meets owes who led us to Dustin, Matthews? Who did wealth stuff with and we speak at podcast all the time we'll be doing that Friday, which is Chris comed- Sosas, company We got we met all of the people in the advertising world in podcasting. Trevor Smith Lynn. Heather is good and some of the people from those advertising through those guys yet, we got to know the people that Libson. Those guys opened a lot of doors on the podcasting side for us, and that was just kind of a a a random cold reach out and. Led to a lot I, guess the point here I wanna like there's more names like actually this one name is a Chris Martinez. I'm sure you get him. You know he's listening and he's giving us a big middle finger because he totally forgot about him when we're thinking about the Henry folks. Oh Yeah. Because Martinez was. He's he's he's probably the one from Henry's group that were still the most connected to. Outside of Henry the most obvious one in A. G. Well see we redeemed ourselves he probably. David. Gonzales. Really. Awesome. I was just back and forth with him the other day. Yeah. So D- is awesome. He's been on the show. I was GONNA say like at. Mars. Burden is here to. Mars connected us with with rich Shefrin in that whole thing that leads to all these I was just looking because I siege Abraham's on here as well, and it's like we mentioned him looking to tax. To Jog my memory but I just I think what? The whole point of this here of people have even are still listening to US ramble. Be Open to opportunities and kind of lean into the flow of things if it feels like it's just kind of it's kind of meant to be in the right moment or it can develop into something, but it still feels like it's on your path like pursue. It may be because like Chapman most these opportunities came from us just being in the middle of something like being in the conversation. The podcast now serves as that. It's nice because we can you know network every single day for the much. In to and person obviously, conferences were a big thing lynch pin and getting a started though you know in that goddess networking so Shoot knowing. It's kind of cool to see how if you can somehow involve networking in your business in your day to day grind whatever that grind looks likely expand expanded network man you can make deal so fast and things happen. Yeah. No, it's. It's pretty crazy. I mean like pretty much everything that has happened for us the growth of our podcast that guess we've had on our podcast like the places that we've gotten to speak at and the all of that kind of stuff is literally just a result of the networking and just. Building relationships just getting to know people chatting with 'em, connecting them with people. You know they connect you with people and this spiderweb just grows and I'd really actually like to see a visual this like I imagine like you know like when they're searching for serial killers and they got pictures all over the board with the pins, the string and I'm like I can visualize doing. This with like the map of all these PEO-, these connections because exter- it's like Holy Shit like the reason that people actually listened to us isn't because of anything we did it's because of like this frigging giant spider of like connections that led up to this, and that's the that's the whole thing is our currency is our network and that's where this I think that's Ties Abo- around this part, you know of this episode of the three hundred at this. This is our gratitude to our currency because shit without that man, there's no way that will be we'd be in the position we're in right now where we're just doing these like, no shit like we feel like we're pinching ourselves all the time and like home a God, we just pulled this thing off Hobart God. Wow and like to think that we're not behind the scenes coming. The heck. Yeah. We're pretty vocal about it but I feel like a lot of people are probably like this. If something big happens, they're just like not expressing it. Did I also want to give a shoutout to like all of our our team members past and present. You know we got we got Jacob, who's the editing this podcast kicking ass at it like do Jacob Goes Oh bob and beyond with these podcast like I barely gave them any instruction on how to edit and he goes and watches youtube tutorials. Constantly figures out how to improve our audio quality and like I'll we'll get on our team meetings and he'll just start telling me like Oh. Yeah, I was experimenting with E. Q. and and the the compression and I got I got the to sound just right and. He's he's dialed like he's really like sort of dialing in his skill level for like the podcast editing and he makes us sound better than we actually sounded real life. And then you know we've got Su who takes all the notes on all of these episodes that come out and you know just. So dependable, just like clockwork, we never have to question if the notes are going to be here on time and both of them, both of them are frigging dependable is great. It's crazy but We appreciate those guys so much for everything they're doing for US ensue helps out a lot and support as well. Yeah and probably in some other parts of our business, I mean, really our team members are GONNA go with US wherever we go. Yeah. As long as they're down for the ride you know and because that's how we like to roll in. They know we love to have fun feel like everyone that we've ever worked with no that. Yeah. The reflection of what you hearing here. So What what she is what you get even on our team meetings. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean is just she's helped out so much in terms of just like putting that whole both of them I mean by WanNa compliment soon, the newts in the fact that she's just like that such a workload that we just don't want to do and it develops into our GP newsletter like are printed letter that we send out in the mail every month. That's a result of hard work there. and. Then a lot of my wife she actually is our editors she'll go she does a second pass on pretty much every content all of our content everywhere she's kind of doing another pass on it before it gets released we've got to all of our podcast you probably know I don't know. I think she. Voice. For that. And then you know Shannon and Patty we can't. We can't do this without mentioning that they were. They were huge huge huge like helps in our business. Hey, like we we still. Haven't chatted with Shannon in a bit but Patty, still chat with her often maybe once a month or so and I'm sure if she's listening I think she might be what up. Big Love always you and Matt. Yeah. Other met this man. Don't up to you and W W, the other man w not confusing. So the she was with us for a long time and again helped us like Kenna, create the first systems and the foundational what the Hell Hustle and flow chart is the podcast the business. And then in. Then Shannon basically like stepped in for frigging systems to Shannon was. She was like the first person to come into our business look at what we're doing and going why the hell are you doing that? You shouldn't be doing that I could find somebody for five dollars to do that for you know like. Not a real example, but you know. Could have in. Our business she came in and looked at everything we were doing and going you guys are working to heart. We need to like build systems automations or like get you the hell out of doing all the day-to-day like monotonous stuff and it was Shannon who really really pushed us to systematize and get out of like doing so much day to day stuff. Yeah. Yeah. She did and and get she. She had some Cooper -tunities is offered tours and we didn't want to hold her back. In, and I thought it was like a 'cause we honestly like his what she stopped working with us former maybe by months I don't know something like that. Yeah I mean it was right around the beginning of all the coves. Weirdness was starting to happen So we hooked her up with with another opportunity and she was stoked on that and but she took us to a point where honestly our business got so dialed in like the core operations of what we do every day like for membership for our podcast for support and like ads and all that stuff you pretty much have all handled though but like dialed in the systems where we kind of like stopped really. Can't systemized herself so well. She built a perfect system. It's not perfect but at the same time it, it showed US relate wow, we can really simplify our business. Got Us just like shave off the budget crap that we should wasn't until Shannon, was in the mix that you and I started going like, why do we work so hard like why don't we go to the beach on Wednesday every once in a while like why are we at a computer all day every day all the time when Shannon came in she came in and was like, okay this needs to be taken off your plate this to be taken off your plate this these and she just like found the people found the systems found. You know the connections through Zap year whatever to like take monotonous daily stuff off our plates and then when when she was on board, that was when we started going okay we don't actually have to be at our computer every day all day. Yeah. Yeah it was. It was like my nerves another mindshift for us. And she came from Tim Francis. But we you know who's awesome. is awesome and he's great. He's he's a yeah I mean. Come forever until I know I I think. Already. Wrapped it up a minute ago. So we can go ahead and finish wrapping it up but Members that have helped us along the way have been pretty damn pivotal moment. Yeah. I mean everyone is everyone has their place. So I'm happy that we were able to give gratitude and spin this three hundred episode part one. I don't know when we're GONNA record part to maybe just one minute. Okay. Hopefully, it doesn't go all night off. Cool. Well, thank you for listening everyone. If you're still listening. Now now, we're going to record the part that you probably came to hear. You there by by thanks so much for tuning into that episode. I, hope you dug it. I know Joe and I dug it. I actually kicked joe out of the room. He's not here right now because I wanted to tell you about a tool that I really really dig we use it in our business. We recommend it all the time. It's called easy Webinar, and it's a tool that lets you do live webinars, automated webinars hybrid webinars, and You know pretty much any other kind of Webinar if there are other kinds of webinars but anyway, this tool is. Kind of like, you're all in one do it all tool for anything webinar related easy webinars put up by dude named Casey man he's been on the podcast. If you haven't listened to episode two killer episode, he's a really smart dude but his software is amazing. It does everything. It's you know the title tells you exactly what it does. It's an easy webinar platform and we use this in our business run automated webinars time we don't do a lot of live webinars these days we like to do the kind of automated webinars where somebody can register and then it. Watch it like fifteen later, or they can watch it the next day but it's just kind of always running and it's a system that helps us make autopilot sales off of our webinars. Super Cool tool. If you haven't tried it yet, you know it's it's it's an amazing tool and Casey is actually hooking you up. He said for listeners of Hustle and flow I can't believe he's doing this but he said for listeners with the hustle and flow chart podcast he's giving twenty five percent off of the membership to use easy Webinar it's already super super inexpensive for what it does in all the cool features it has, but he's hooking you up with twenty five percent off because you're a listener of hustle and flow chart, go easy webinar dot com slash hustle. That's where you can get that twenty five percent off discount. That's easy. Webinar DOT com slash hustle aids of awesome to you're GONNA, dig it to just go grab it, check it out easy webinar dot com slash hustle. No C. You'll hear me in the next show. I. Don't know. I don't know how to close these things. Go Easy Webinar talk to you later. 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Disco Demolition Night

Everything Everywhere Daily

07:42 min | 4 months ago

Disco Demolition Night

"Major League Baseball has a long history of bad marketing ideas from ten cent beer night to baseball bat night to giving fans balls. They could throw onto the field. They entered the stadium. Baseball has a long list of horrible ideas to bring people into the game. However the absolute worst idea by far occurred on July Twelfth, one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety nine, when the Chicago White SOx decided to blow up a crate of disco records on an evening, which would forever be known as disco demolition night. Learn all about the disaster, which was disco demolition night on this episode of everything everywhere daily. Mean This episode is brought to you by the Travel Photography Academy. Have you ever been on a trip and wondered while you're photos. Don't turn out like the images you see in travel magazines. If you're going to spend thousands of dollars on a trip and hundreds of thousands of dollars on a camera, you owe it to yourself to get the highest quality images from your trip. That's why I created the travel photography academy. I set out to travel around the world in two thousand seven with an expensive camera, and I had no idea how to use it as. As I traveled around the world I, told myself the art of travel photography, eventually mastering it to a point where I was named travel photographer. The year three times in North America, the travel photography academy is an online course that teaches you everything you need to know to master your camera, and to take better photos on your next trip to improve your photography and to get better images on your next trip visit, travel, photography, Academy, Dot, com, or click on the link in the show notes. Understand how disco demolition night came to be, you have to understand. The backstory disco was very popular in the late nineteen seventies, the movie Saturday night, fever, nineteen, seventy, seven popularized disco, and the movie soundtrack by the Bee, gees was the biggest selling album in history up to that point. Artists like Donna Summer's Casey in the Sunshine Ban and Gloria gainer were topping the charts discos like studio. Fifty four New York became the most popular nightclubs in the country radio station started to change their formats to meet the growing demand for disco station W. Katie you in New York went from a mid level, rock and roll station to the most popular radio station in the country when they switched to disco. In Nineteen, seventy, seven, the white sox even held a disco night where people could come and listen to disco music at the Ballpark, it drew an attendance of over twenty thousand people, but by Nineteen, seventy nine, there was a backlash developing against disco. One Chicago DJ was particularly down on disco. The twenty four year old Steve Doll. was fired by station wd on Christmas Eve Nineteen, Seventy Eight, when the station changed its format from rock to disco, fresh off being fired and looking to pick up publicity for the event doll was hired by competitor wwl up and started an anti disco crusade. Mike Vac son of White SOx owner bill back and head of marketing for the team. Thought might be a good idea to have an anti disco night at the stadium just like they had a disco night a few years before the team wasn't doing very well and had been averaging fifteen thousand five hundred fans per game. Vet Figured if the promotion could draw the twenty thousand people disco night did it would be a moderate success? The team partnered up with wwl up to promote the event, which was to be held on July twelfth a double header against the Detroit. Tigers the gimmick was going to be that people would be allowed to enter the stadium for only ninety eight cents if they brought a record with them, the records of be collected put in a large crate, and then blown up in the outfield between games. It all sounded simple on paper. As the gates opened the team expected twenty thousand fans behind security for thirty, five thousand, just in case. Fifty five thousand people actually entered the stadium. It was the largest crowd in Comiskey Park in years. The off ramps from the Dan Ryan Expressway were eventually closed off by police because there were so many people it was estimated there were twenty thousand people outside of the stadium who couldn't get in the collection bins for disco records quickly filled up so many people just brought their records with them into the stands, and for those of you not old enough to remember vinyl records note that they can actually be thrown quite far if you toss it like a Frisbee. Most of the people who were coming to the game. We're not there for baseball. They were bringing signs. Saying disco sucks and hanging them off the railings of the stands. As the game began the reports of people trying to get into the stadium for free so vexing all the security guards to the entrances, leaving the field unattended during the first game, fans began throwing records into the field. The players on each team began wearing batting helmets on the field to protect themselves from flying. Diss the game stop several times because of debris on the field. The first game ended at eight sixteen, PM at eight forty Steve Doll entered the field and a jeep, egging on the crowd with chance of disco sucks. The crate of disco records was in Centerfield wired with explosives, and the crowd was going nuts. It was here that the lack of foresight really became apparent. I when the records were detonated, it left a huge hole in the outfield. Explosions tend to do that. Then after having been Egged on an amped up, the fans started streaming onto the field. All of the extra security, which had been hired of which there was enough for a crowd of thirty five thousand people, not fifty five thousand. We're all the entrances. Nobody was there to stop the people from going onto the field and go onto the field they did between five and seven thousand people swarmed the playing area and it was pandemonium. Bonfires were lit on the grass from the debris of the record explosion. People were climbing the foul Poles. The batting cage was torn apart. The bases were stolen. Literally people swarmed in the dugouts and started taking bats and balls by nine ten PM. The Chicago police arrived in riot gear to clean out the crowd from the field. The field was quickly cleared a fans, and after an hour of groundskeepers trying to clean up the field, the Tigers Manager sparky Anderson refused to let his team onto the field due to safety concerns, American League President Lee Macphail was called, and he declared game, two of the double header a forfeit and awarded the. The win to the Tigers it was only want to five games forfeited in major league, baseball in the last fifty years, the evening probably hastened the demise of disco, many stations and record labels began calling a dance music instead of disco discotheques closed, and eventually the seventies morphed into the eighties bill beck was pushed out a baseball the next year and sold the team. Mike Vick resigned the following year, and he could only find work in minor league baseball after that he later became the president of the Minor League Charleston River Dogs, and in two fourteen held a similar event where they blew up Justin Bieber. Miley Cyrus Merchandise after game. As for the white sox. They actually held a promotion in two thousand and nineteen, celebrating the fortieth anniversary of disco demolition night. However, this time the fans only came away with a t shirt. This is a brand new podcast, and as such can really use your support. If you know someone who is curious and you think would like the show. Please share with. and. If you've enjoyed the show, please subscribe on Apple. PODCASTS or Google podcast real get new content for curious people every day in your podcast player and leave a five star review. More of US can help the show be discovered by more people, and also please support the show over on Patriots were you will get exclusive audio content, not available in the podcast feed merchandise such as t shirts, and you'll be able to submit ideas for future episodes until next time. Stay curious.

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215 | Busyness

The Minimalists Podcast

34:27 min | 11 months ago

215 | Busyness

"Damn minimalists the minimalist are once again going on tour. This is our tenth tour and ten years it is called. The less coast post tour will be hitting eight cities across the west coast of the United States and Canada for more details. Head on over to the minimalists dot com slash tore tore. We'll see you soon. Every little scene. Think that me every little thing Every little thing that's just feeding your greed That you'll be fine without. Hello everybody welcome to the minimalist podcast. We discuss what it means to live a meaningful life with less. My Name's Joshua Fields Millburn Dan Ryan Nicodemus together. We or the minimalist. Thanks for joining us. Today we're GonNa talk about eighty hour workweeks. We're GONNA talk about packed schedules. We're GONNA talk about endless meetings. We're GONNA talk about Ryan's overflowing doing inbox. We're GONNA talk about unrealistic deadlines and we're GonNa talk about bringing our work home with us all of the fun things. The modern life has presented to us. And we're going to do you all this with today's guest. Jason freed is here. He is the author of this book. I'M GONNA hold it up. It is called. It doesn't have to be crazy at works. If you're watching this on youtube you can see the cover here. I just got this lesson two days ago. Jason and I'm already more than halfway through it and I've gotTa tell you we are. We are kindred it spirits. My friend we have many of the same values but also many of the same ideas. I love what you've done with a lot of the principals in here you sort of distilled down. Well I guess twenty years you started base camp twenty years ago. And here's wow one time and so you've learned a lot in those was twenty years and in a lot of those lessons have made it in here and I gotTa tell you there are some things that Ryan I've even written about like having those goals that is a that is part of my ethos is not having goals and you don't have people when I tell people I don't have goals. They look at it like crazy or lazy or stupid honey. No if you're winning thing and so there are a lot of principals and we'll dive into the book. I there's a lot I wanNA talk to you about but this is a listener driven shows figure. We would start with some questions today about being too busy. Our first question is from Amanda in Nashville. How would you Suggests someone goes about balancing their financial stability and their mental stability. Recently I moved to a new city three and I've been struggling with being able to keep afloat but I understand that there's no sense in spending all of your hours working working to make a dollar is going to be miserable. I guess that's the struggle that I've been having recently as some people say it's really hard. Some people say it's really really easy. You just gotTa go to work. Do what you need to do and make it happen. But I feel like it's a little more complicated than that. So Jason you write about this in the book actually. There is a certain expectation. I think a lot of it is sort of internal with the eighty hour workweeks but also Their bosses and boss boss. WHO's sort of set a precedent? The first one in the last one out. That was actually me. When I was a middle manager back in the corporate world I managed one hundred and fifty retail stores? And I would i. I made sure that I was the first person in either was either me or my boss. So he set the precedent and then I was the last one I was turned the lights out and eight. PM after everyone left. But I was busy. I don't I wasn't necessarily Efficient or I was productive as you write in the book. Yeah people are obsessed with productivity. I don't know like I think part of this whole thing is is that we set expectations for ourselves. That are kind of impossible to meet in Boston. Sometimes set expectations. That are impossible to meet. Deadlines are impossible to meet growth targets. That are impossible to meet all sorts of targets all sorts of expectations. And we've really tried to not do do any of that basically like we just kinda say. Let's try to do the best work we can like. That's it because we should be doing that anyway. Like I don't need to set a target to do the best work I can. I should do the best work I can. Because that's what I WANNA do and that's all I expect myself anybody's do the best we can. I think when you know when it comes to hitting things or or or or you know being busy sometimes we feel like we're we have to be busy to feel like we're doing something worthwhile. Fill my time. You know you gotta fill your time. The truth is there's a lot of things to do during the day but there's not that much work that probably really needs to get done so we invent work to do and we keep ourselves busy and we bounce back and forth between tasks and were addicted to you wrote about this in the book as well We're addicted to interruptions. And you had this equation in there where it was like one time sixty is still equals one or one yet one time sixty is our or or two times. Thirty is also an hour and What like ten times? Six minutes at a time is also an hour but they're three completely different hours right because if we're constantly interrupted were doing busy work but we're not actually getting the meaningful work done especially creative work. I think it needs you need uninterrupted stretches of time to really get into something right now and so. Yeah I mean that's like the unlimited. My math skills is that sort of equation there but basically you know we try to shoot for. I think people should try to shoot for like doing one thing at a time. But it's called an hour. Just focus on that for an hour instead of bouncing between three or four or five different things and the problem is is that a lot of modern technology prevents us from having continuous blocks of time. We ended bouncing new notification. Let's check that out new email. It's check that out. New Zoom Call. It's check that out whatever it might be and so we just end up bouncing bouncing and bouncing and it's it's not that there's more work to do. It's time to do it because our time our days have been chunked into smaller and smaller and smaller bits. And then you can't really get deep into something something so you kind of just hit the surface and then you bounce off of it you bounce onto something else and you never get things done just bouncing constantly. I think that's really a bad way to go about the day. Now Ryan you. You think you might have some good advice here because she's really talking about the financial side and the mental side in the problem with this is like if she wants to work last fast. It's going to hurt her financially but if she gets hurt financially now all of a sudden it's going to have a a an impact on her on her sanity on on the chaos on the mental clarity on the psychological. Clutter the mental stress that that she's experiencing and so then it becomes a strange sort of downward on word spiral and it's hard. It's hard to get out of that because I think we all have a certain base level of need. You know she just moved to Nashville. It's a new city for her and of course she has to pay the bills but then there are all these other sort of inputs. That are telling her well. You have to make money to do this. You have to make money to do that. Yeah I mean I always like go to an extreme example and I think you know if someone offered her a million dollars to rob a bank. She probably wouldn't do that now. What she's he's doing right now is is not nearly as morally wrong as robbing a bank but it is wrong to an extent in her question? She said it she's like I know. There's no point in the working eighty hours a week seven days a week just to forsake my mental stability and I totally agree and when someone is in that situation they do have to. They have one or two choices they can continue doing what they're doing. And we all know that you know inevitably it's going to get to a brick wall and I and I know for me when I was doing the sixty seventy eighty hour workweeks. I got to a point where I mean I almost just got up and quit and went bankrupt and like because I was so stressed out right now. She's at a point where she doesn't have to She's not in this pressure cooker situation yet and she has an opportunity to kind of work her way out out of it so yeah I mean she should probably She she can either leave her job. Find something different Or she can go to her boss and she's really adding value to the company. Josh did this. Before we left our corporate jobs. He went to his boss and he was like. Hey Look I'm not going to answer my phone after a certain time and I'm not going to get on my computer before a certain time now. The only reason Josh could say that is because he added an extra just an enormous amount of value to the company so he had leverage to kind of set his his Some boundaries up. So you know maybe she can set up some boundaries if she can't set those boundaries up. Yeah I agree You don't WanNa take your mental health just for a seven day workweek just for the money because again there are there are many ways that you can make lots of money but there are opportunity costs. It's and unfortunately you know Your your stress levels your your mental stability is is one of those opportunity costs. So she's got she's gotta find a way. Down is is kind of where I'm at with with my advice to her Jason I assume you you see this with with people in your company if someone does feel stressed out or they feel feel overworked. I'm sure it's happened before even with the company culture that you have especially if you're trying new things out you're working on new projects I I think quite often the bosses or managers or people above where you are. They want to be sympathetic. Even though they're not not all that they may not see especially the farther away they get from the work. You talk about that in the book. They may not even understand that. You're stressed out and feeling overwhelmed. Some people put on a happy face at work because they don't WanNa seem like there pouting or seem like they don't appreciate the opportunity to have a job and so people suck it up a lot but I think I think it's important for everyone to be very honest about their own mental health with their boss. Now some bosses may not WanNa hear it like you know. There are people out there who don't want to hear that but Hopefully You can you. Can you explain to somebody like I'm just feeling burned out. Like I need a little bit of extra time. I need to go home a little bit earlier. I just need. I need some MM space here to fix some things because otherwise I'm just GONNA put on a happy face and not do great work and it's going to end poorly so I can i. Can I have a little bit more time. I need a few more personal days. Can I do something. And we've been very careful about this at base camp although we weren't in the past But we had a situation once where one of our employees who've been with us for a while had some issues and And he was trying to kind of fight through them and it was pretty obvious that he needed a break and we didn't have any way to give them a break because we didn't have any we game mm-hmm of day or two but we didn't have any like institutional breaks really so we. This is our invention but we came up with the idea the sabbatical at work which of course like in academia the haven't in some jobs they have it and so now base camp every three years. Everybody gets paid thirty days Sabbatical just to give people shot at like just to get some real real time off without any worry and then we also have a lot of people take personal days more personalized that sort of thing but these are things we've eased into over the years. We haven't always been that way because we didn't recognize. We didn't even understand that somebody could have those those concerns But people do everyone does. I think it's important for the boss. The owner whoever to recognize a human beings are human beings. I don't care how cool the job is. I don't care special it is. I don't care how how friendly you think you are. People need mental health time in order to to like you know. Tighten things up for themselves and you need to be able to give people that time and also protect people's time through the during the day so an eight hour days enough but that's another part of this is that work can push people to burn out obviously and it's not always obvious people Bernado different rates in different times so you might think this is fun. I can work ten hour days. No big deal but other people may not be able to do that and you need to recognize that as well. You Know Amanda last thing I'm I'm GonNa tell you is Our friend Dave Ramsey. He I just heard him recently. Talking about he was talking to an attorney who was working eighty hours a week. Excuse me and The he was totally burned out. And you know if you worked really hard for the next decade or decade and a half he might become one of the forty seven partners in their law firm and then by the way. The work doesn't go away once you get the next promotion. You climb the ladder. Now you're setting the new president. You have to work even more. That were always happen to me. Every time I got a promotion throughout my twelve years at the telecom company that Ryan and I were at. It's not like oh now it's a relief. It's like oh it's awesome. I got this promotion. Now I get the privilege of working more and I. It becomes neverending cycle where there isn't relief around the bend. There is not a finish line that you're working toward in fact the closer I got to the people I aspired to be the more I realized they were kind of miserable. We're I was and if I worked for next twenty years then I would probably be just as miserable as them because follow recipe. I'm going to make the same case. There's a path and once yes you're on that path on those rails. They're going they're going. That's what happens you know It's one of those tricky things because it's hard. It's really hard to just admit that you need a break or that. You need to do something else. Thing is that we all create habits like habits. Aren't something you set out to create you. Just create them anyway and the trick here. Not The trick. The problem I guess. Is that if you work long hours if you have bad habits Or you form bad habits like it's going to be harder and harder to break those habits you'd simply just get used to the things you do over and over and over and over and you end up putting up with things and making excuses assist for things because that's just the way it is now. That's just I'm used to it now. Now I'm going to begin to defend my lifestyle because like I'm so invested in it so I think it's really important for the people on the spot those things early and and correct because kind of what you just alluded to is really true. which is it never gets easier? I don't think ever it gets easier unless you break like I don't mean like well sometimes breaking down is kind of the first step but but but you have to break those habits. Because they're not going to naturally go elway and this is something. I think important for entrepreneurs to Sometimes people think they can work long long long hours for many many years because then eventually down the road. They won't won't have to but doesn't work that way. People tend to keep doing what they've been doing in the past and it gets worse and worse and worse and worse and worse than they dig in and then they think the only way to get anywhere where is how they've already gotten somewhere which is putting in ridiculous hours. So you got to break those habits early and set yourself up for recognizing that forty hours I would say is enough. Eight hour days is is plenty and in practice that because whatever you practice you're gonNA keep getting better at. Unfortunately you can get better at working eighty hour weeks defending one thing. I thought about too I I saw one of your Ted talks is Meetings and how much of a waste of time those are and I was just thinking maybe she can find things in her week that she could cut out Mimi's families instead of ten meetings week. Maybe it's five meetings a week But yeah I know that that is a huge time suck. So maybe maybe. That's just one little thing she could do to cut some sometime out. What are the thing I want to add to? It's important to recognize what control you have over the situation. So of course. That was a short voicemail. We don't have all the context about what she does. And how whatever ever but you can bend your head against the wall trying to make changes that you can't change. So if she's lowering organization she may not be able to. The top of the organization is higher. She'll have more power over the organization. We don't know where she is but figuring out what she can affect is the first step because you can get really frustrated Trying to change things that you simply just don't have the leverage to change right now so I think that's a really important point two. Yeah and also one thing that adds to your freedom here is if you're debt free in your personal life if because that does allow you to walk away from a job that maybe is making you compromise your values your interest your desires at this point. However if you're in debt then In fact this is you and I agree violently on not having plans Ryan. I don't have tin year business. Plan I don't I don't know what we're GONNA DO I. It'd be disingenuous for me to say yes five years from now we're going to have X. number of instagram followers as though. Oh that's even the point. In fact one thing that's fascinating jess who handles all of our social media. She's amazing she's done freelance work for or other companies as well and they always. It's always like what we need to have X. number of instagram followers by the end of this quarter and I've never gone to her once and and Ryan never gone to her at all and and been like well. We really need to ramp up our facebook strategy new followers. Because that's not that's not the point adding value he was the point and these are just different channels through which we try to add value and I bring all that back to say that if you are working working somewhere where you're compromising your values You may have to stay there for a short period of time until you're able to pay off your debt however if you're debt free you can leave that place you can always find a job elsewhere somewhere else that does align with the person you want to become and of course. Don't expect perfection then but there might be a more ideal place for you to go. One of the thing I want to add to is Remote work is a reality. So are most of our company. Works works remotely you've Fifty fifty six people about forty of them live so we're base in Chicago. We have fourteen people in Chicago and then the rest live in about thirty other cities around the world thirty five cities. Ace and remote work is important because It gives someone an opportunity to work somewhere else. Where the cost of living is lower? So you know we have one of our best customer service. Disrupts lives on a farm in Tennessee. He couldn't get this job if he had to look in his. You know ten mile radius. There wouldn't be a job you know but he gets to go live on the family farm. I think it's like a fifth generation Asian family farm and do this job because we allow remote work. So that's another option is to keep your costs down by going to Nashville doesn't have a very high cost of living which is good But you know figuring out the costs out of the equations important to sometimes. We're always looking to to make more but if you reduce the base that you have to the cover you don't have to make as much I think people just don't talk about costs enough it talk about the revenue enough or or you know in this case the salary enough for making more but maybe just don't need to make AAC is much. That's another way to figure out how to get out of this vicious cycle totally. I mean the the fastest way to get a raise is to just spend less money find ways to spend less money for sure. I'll say one thing to Josh. I wouldn't just quit our jobs and become minimalists. I mean that's inserted blog. I mean that is that is like the you know Ah People mistake like you. Just quit your job be a minimalist. It's like you're right you. Can't you have to have a plan so josh and I for a year. At least we were paying off debt. We were spending less money. We were preparing Josh he laid himself off when he was given the task to save money money he put his first name. His his name was people. My my name was the first in the list In fact that's what I was going to say about the plant right. I don't have plans but the one time where I do find it to be beneficial to have a plan is if you are in a crater so to speak so if you're in debt a plan to Gav debt if you if there's some sort of emergency you can plan for certain things you can't plan for everything and I think it's important to differentiate that we're try we try to say here's my Toyota has one hundred year your plan which is funny and aspirational I suppose maybe that helps them with their six sigma processes and all these other things but We kind of make it up as we go and I think it's gone way better for us as a result but only because we had plans to get us out of the crater and then once you're out of the crater you can travel whatever direction you want and what that plan does is it gives you something to look on the horizon for so you know I would encourage her to set an end date. Maybe it's a year from now. And what is it GonNa take for her to find different work or to work less over the next year That is like huge leverage. But if you're going in every day and you're just reminded of how you WANNA leave with no plan it's It's a recipe for disaster while Manda I'm GonNa send you a copy of it doesn't have to be crazy at work. I really hope you enjoy it. I think you'll find a lot of value in that. I'm also going to see a copy of our book. minimalism live a meaningful life. We identify the five values that that Ryan I often talk about the foundational values and I think getting really clear on what your values are is going to be really important for you to move forward to find a company or a job or a position -sition or maybe even starting your own business that aligns with the person you want to be. So if you like are a podcast show like the audiobook version of minimalism live a meaningful life or we'll send you the book or the book version of that right. I'm going to skip Libya's question for the sake of time we will move that for the maximal but Let's move onto well. What time is Tom it is it is time for for our lightning round? This is where we answer questions from Social Media Jason. Here's what we do so we're at the minimalist on facebook and twitter and instagram. You're at Jason Freed on on the relevant platforms only twitter. Look at that you minimalist love it. That's my favorite platform fan of the other ones Muslim and so thankfully we have just to help manage get our message out on all those other platforms. Twitter is also my personal favorite. WHO's a first question from Ryan? First question is If you are a senior manager at a company that can be crazy sometimes lake many other tech startups. What can you do due to change the culture? You know. This is a fascinating question. Because they're often people who would like to in some way influenced the culture of their company. But they're new or they feel like they're so low down on the totem pole Now what we try to do. Is We answer these questions. In a short sharable lesson one hundred forty the response but not really we have a lot of it and then Sean makes something pretty for the show notes. He tweeted out. So Jason Tell me about how do people in your especially you have an additional layer. They're working remotely. How do they influence the culture? especially if they're low down on the totem pole. Well this comes back back a little bit to something I said earlier. Which is figuring out what you actually have control over? So if you're really low on the totem pole at the very least we all have control over ourselves to some degree so we don't like being interrupted opted by others all the time. We shouldn't interrupt other people kind of be the change you wish to see in the world essentially and so. I think you know you've got to figure out where you're at if you're a little bit of a team lead and you have three people below you or something like that or working with you then you can change that if you are a manager that manages multiple teams and you can change that but trying to change the whole company. I think it's is not the right first. Step you know figure out what you can control work on yourself. I make some small steps and at some point when ends up happening. Is that if you let's say you have a team of three that you're that you're in charge of and the rest of the companies crazy and you figure out some calm and all of a sudden you're doing things a little differently everyone's like and it's working people what's going on over there You get some leverage to get back to leverage. Everyone's got to figure out what their levers and how long it is and how strong is like how much leverage you have and you can build it by with small victories and then people will look at. What's going on over there? Oh he you know here she lets people work at home one day a week. Oh interesting maybe we could do that elsewhere. Then you can have influence on the company you by doing something in a small scale other people pay attention to it and let them then have the idea make it. They're it's it's your idea like I don't care they don't need to take credit for the idea like if you you WanNa steal it from me and and and you know apply this company-wide please do that'd be great so I think that's the way to go about this. And you know what Ryan when we worked at the telecom company there are thousands of employees. Is there I think. Well we don't realize is there isn't necessarily a company culture. There are many cultures within the company we worked in the retail side of things and the for a different period time Ryan worked in the B. The B. Side of things and in the marketing side of things and there were individual cultures. And each of those places. Yeah the by the way are appreciably different. When you move from it's essentially like moving to a whole new company sometimes right? Oh yeah man. I remember Joshua's. He ran a bunch of retail stores and his stores were Lake AAC pristine man like you could literally wipe the top of the case and there's no dust but then you go to like you know. his his co-workers retail stores and there's clutter everywhere. It's dirty in the back room. I mean yeah it's you do have a little A little bit of a different environment store to store It's different than in a city. So you've got a city which has a general kind of a cultural angle that neighborhoods in the city. And you've got blocks in the city in one block might be different than next block and coffee offi shops over here. Different than coffee shops over here in restaurants over here everything. It is a bunch of Mike. This whole idea of a culture is one thing. It's not true and it's not unhelpful. Right it's think about it. In terms of little micro societies within the bigger society. And that's what you can really have control over and you can influence other ones then. Yeah here's the the answer and it's just echoing exactly what you said already. This written down. Be The calm you want to see in the workplace. Yeah you got it and screaming. My pincers issued needn't be vessel. Oh into which others poor their stress and anxiety and I think it's too often that we wanna take another people stresses and exiled. But we don't have to do that. We can be the calm that we want to be. I think it's important empathize. Like it's important like you know respect other people's battles but we don't have to take those battles on ourselves all right before we get into our added value segment and end our listener tips today. Looks like we have a bunch more suppress questions this week. DVD Gentlemen how do you reduce the cast of work over which you have very limited control. How do you balance? Silence work that needs to be done for the company or leadership versus the work. You are passionate about. How do you let go of attachment to results and just focus on the process itself? We have another question here. This one was really fascinating. I only get a break when I sleep or when I have no cell phone service aches. That's a lot of work. So so what can I do to get some time to myself without feeling rude for ignoring emails and tax and phone calls. Also this question in what areas of Jason's personal life. If does he take a minimalist approach. And looks like we've got about fourteen billion more questions for Jason Freed and you WanNa hear all that you can listen to this week's maximal episode available exclusively inclusively on Patriots. That's right you're currently. Listen to our weekly minimal episode each week ridenour record an entirely different much longer maximal episode on the minimalist private podcasts which gives us the private space. We need to talk about topics. We don't usually discuss in public plus Patriot on his best way for us to fund this podcast and keep it one hundred percent advertisement retirement free when you subscribe to the middle of private podcast on Patriot. You'll receive a personal link so that our maximum episodes play in your favorite podcast APP. You can find all the details on all the good stuff over the minimalists dot Com Ryan. What else you got for us? Well as always I WANNA encourage her listeners to read more and get informed and he could do that. Was Jason Freeze Book. It doesn't have to be crazy. Workum up for the camera one more time. Check it out. It's a great book and then also Josh. I got some voicemail. Comments and tips from our listeners shook him up high trash Ryan. This is Sandra from Long Island. New York I wanted to share a quick tip for those looking to let go of extra bags or luggage judge instead of donating them to a place like goodwill you can donate them to your local foster care system. Many children in foster care carry their belongings in garbage bags by donating your extra luggage. It allows those children to feel a bit better when moving to a new place. Oh the minimalist. My name name is eve and I'm from Berlin Connecticut. I just listened to your simple choices. Talk cast about he eating and I just wanted to to kind of share. My personal experience is healthy eating I was diagnosed with. Ibs My Freshman Year of college and this has been really A big strain on my health else and my eating habits I've had to eliminate and a lot of foods in order to keep me feeling good and feeling well And one of those changes I made was actually early becoming a vegetarian. Cold Turkey no pun intended and I just wanted to share that. It can be really difficult to make A big GATORADE decision like that and switching. Your Life Gordon Vegan and free the deterrent A Lot of judgment comes your way when you tell people that you're currently going through that transition or maybe already have Said I just wanted to share with the listeners that it really great to just stay confident in yourself ourselves and trust your process It can be really hard to be able to express yourself and live freely and simply when you're receiving negative feedback and judgment from others But I'm here to tell you that there's a lot of people that have improved their lives eating healthy and making those transitions positions. So whether you are thinking about switching to make dietary change or or someone that doesn't have a lot about it and doesn't have a lot support and that Definitely solid what you like to do and be able to Be Consistent and persistent uh-huh how your eating habits are keeping life in order to protect your house all right Joe. Thanks again to Jason for joining us. Today there are few ways you could check them out and check out his book. It doesn't have to be crazy at work. I'm halfway through it. I am absolutely enjoying it. I'm probably going to finish it in the next day or two. So Oh good whether you work for someone you are a boss. You aspire to be a ball. She want to start your own company one of phenomenal ethos and then he's got several other places you can find him. He has a podcast definitely check out his podcast called Rework Dot FM. We'll put a link to that in the show notes in his blog which is called signal versus noise and you can find Ed three seven S V in Dot Com. 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Id Marry My Best Friend

No One Told Me

45:01 min | 10 months ago

Id Marry My Best Friend

"Hi My name is Kelly and on this podcast. Hindsight is everything. Our goals to look back on seasons. We've been through and help prepare those about to face the same things. There's something powerful and knowing you're not alone in knowing someone has gone before you so I gather up some great people. I ask them all the questions I can think of and then hopefully by the end with better than when we started. I'm so happy you're here. Welcome welcome to no one told me. Welcome welcome to episode one of our February relationships series. We're finally in February January. I think was about three years long but I'm I'm really excited about this. Actually we play in for this month since last August. I just knew this is something I wanted to do what I did was. I asked couples in my life. Who played huge roles in shaping me before and during my marriage but the first one I just felt like it was only fair to start with me an Dan Ryan having a conversation about our marriage which is extremely exciting for him because he loves to have a microphone in his hand comes very naturally to him I do? It's one of my dreams really to be in front of a microphone so I'm glad I could make that contributed today. You did the parenting one with me way back when I I mean it was. It was pretty recent. We launched it and at that point the kids were in bed for the night right now. They are napping and I'm waiting for the moment that one one of those doors opens and and we have lost our opportunity. But let's let's see what we can Ryan's only caveat to doing this with me. Was He wanted control the the episode so he wanted to ask the questions because he's not quick on his feet. Is that why I feel more comfortable when I have time to think through the answer so while Oh you're answering I can think through my answer so you are quick on your feet. I am just not as quick as you are. Got It okay. So here's what we're going to do. I'm sorry that quick on the fate thing was not a funny joke. It felt funny in my head and this will this is our marriage you just got a taste of it is I say what I think is funny in my head and it's really not but I'm handing it over to Ryan right now. So here is no one told me by Ryan Holland. That's a lot of pressure. Okay so first. Let's just talk through kind of how we met evolution of our relationship basically up up until now and then all correct you as I see fit. That's what you do best map. So we will it is. He's he feels offended by that statement. But but it's true. He has to correct me regularly again. Because I don't think before I talk so we met in middle school. I remember the very first time I saw you. I was sitting in the bus room. which was the gym on the seventh grade? Blazers I remember you walking in and I noticed you for several reasons first because you are at least six feet tall as a sixth grader. It's true you were huge. And none of your other friends were that big. You're carrying a bright yellow backpack and you had some degree varying hiring degree of bleach in your hair. It wasn't fully blind definitely novel Yvonne Bleached. It wouldn't well then. What was it? Did you squirt some lemon juice in your can't be sure what it was is. It just wasn't bleach. We'll just say leave it at that so I remember the first time seeing you. I don't think we actually talked until I was in eighth grade year in seventh grade I was a manager for the boys basketball team and you were on the basketball team and that is what I fell in love when I just I needed Ryan v Holland to be my boyfriend. Did you want to be my boyfriend at the time I did not. I even confessed to you my undying love on aim instant messenger and as soon as you did not return are those feelings. I backed out real hard and said it was all a joke and I'm still proud of that move but it was later on in high school. I think I was a junior. You were a sophomore we. I just had this great friendship. I mean you were one of my best buddies. We talked every single day. I think in between everything all day than at night. We talked on the phone every single night and eventually just kind of turned into this. Hey I think I kind of like you and so we started dating at the end of your sophomore year into my junior year and keep going. I am aren't I okay. Gosh as an interviewer you've got to give more directives. That's how this works. I'm training you onsite right now. Okay so continue. Good one so went to college. I obviously graduated for you did went to. Ut started that college life and and you ended up going to the University of Memphis by baseball which is six hours away my Jew and the most boring drive you can ever make so. We did long distance for four years. And then you proposed your last year and we got married right after you graduated the July after you graduated and we've been married a eight years you say nine eight eight helped me eight. You're doing good. You're doing good so yes. So you mentioned I went to Memphis right. You're a ut at the time KNOXVILLE and Memphis. It's about six hours so obviously we did the whole long distance thing for four years in school kind of lessons. Did you learn during talk while we were apart. People ask me if long distance was hard and it absolutely was Gonna like it was great but I also always say if the had to go back and do it again. I'll do it the same way. We learned who we were apart from each other in ways that I don't think we could have had. We have in the the same city through those college years. I learned a lot about who I was and what it meant to let someone else lead. Because I had not learned that lesson yet I learned how to to build relationships outside of you especially your college years when you date someone. It's easy to let your life get wrapped up in that person and then they end up being who you are are your entire identity is wrapped up in them somehow in ways that you can't really untangle but with you away we really really developed two. We were outside of just dating each other. Yeah I think we talked about that a law I mean if I'd gone to ut your you had gone with minimum Memphis or anything like that we would have spent spent essentially all of our free time together then it becomes that it's running Kelly and not just reiner just Kelly and so yes. I think it was. It was actually actually exactly like you said really hard. That are really really good thing so while we were doing the long distance thing there was a time where you kinda fell God calling on you to take a step so kind of walk us through that process and maybe some of the lessons learned during that time so within the four years apart. I think we learned how talk communicate with each other effectively because we had to. We weren't actually in each other's presence very often and so we had to learn how to talk things out. We had to learn how to argue argue. We had to learn the vocal cues of each other. Just because I mean I remember. We got webcams thinking. We were GONNA skype all the time we did it. Maybe one time it was was kind of weird in the dorm room. Roommates over there it is. It was just weird. Did Not like it was new at the time to face. Time did not exist yet your old but we really learned how to communicate and our member. This was one thing that I could not figure out how to communicate to you. I just had known for about six months that I had this restless feeling and I think I knew I'm gonNA marry him but I also knew that God was trying to work on something in me the and in you and in our relationship and my need to dominate in my need to take control and my need to say we are going to do this and not do this and kind on a time line. Everything was getting in the way of the work that God wanted to do a distraction to the work. I wanted to do and I just remember. He he continually through his word. was saying how you got to step back from this like if you want this for the rest of your life for now I need you to take guest applebee's and do what I'm asking you to do. Because you are valuing this relationship above your relationship with me right now and I did that and I could not I remember you would just come home from fall break. We spent all off all together. We were in the driveway of my parents house. And I turn to you and said we have we take a break. I remember you kept asking all these questions. I just didn't have answers to him. I didn't know how to explain it. I do now know how to explain it but in the moment I didn't know how to say. I know that God wants this for us but I don't I don't know why he wants it so he took about maybe month and a half two months something like that apart and it was within that time that God really taught taught me what submission was and I know you know. We've talked about this at church before that word has the grossest like computations to and everyone looks at it as just a terrible terrible word to use but I love how we've defined it a church. Some mission is just an invitation to lead and I was never giving you invitations to do that. I was always taking the reins Raines and I could really feel God working that in our relationship that it was if I wanted you to lead our relationship and our marriage and our eventual family lane I had to learn what it meant to step back and I had to learn that God wanted to work in you. And it's not me working in you because that's what I wanted it to be that I learned a lot and that was one of the most painful things I've ever done. One of the most difficult steps obey. I've ever taken. It was worth it. I don't know if you feel the same that it was worth it but it was. We're going through that for me. I was one confused. I mean kind of like you said it kind of came out of nowhere for me and so yeah it was. It was definitely hard. I don't think either one of US would change that time. I mean just the growth in that short amount of time that we both had and the realization. Just like you said we should be relying on a different relationship not our relationship so yeah I don't I don't think either one of US would would change anything about that along those lines as we were dating dating long distance right. Were not seen each other a whole lot. We're talking you know pretty much every day but sporadically were there ever times that you had doubts about a relationship while I was away does question Maggie nervous a little bit. I think someone actually asked this on Instagram for us to talk about and for for me. I think that I was comfortable. With the thought of marrying eve from the get-go I would say probably a year in even high school. I remember when you said I love you. I thought this fills like it should be dumb because we're so young but I also know it to be true but the dow part I didn't doubt our marriage. I didn't doubt that that's what we we were headed toward. Because I'd always been taught you date to get married right so I knew that. I think I doubted like if we were going to always ebb and flow low in different seasons like doubted my ability to be able to kind of hit a rhythm. Where if you didn't necessarily do what I want again? This was all part of having US break up. I think the doubts led up to that was doubting my ability to let you lead in any sort of capacity doubting my ability. Latoya anyone take control because I love control that was where my doubts kind of rooted and again. That's kind of why we took some time apart but after that time apart are those doubts I kind of went away but I know for some people. Your doubts are not just out there. Red Flags and I had so many conversations with people that I know loved me and love Jesus us and I leaned in on them a lot to make sure that I was walking in a healthy direction and that I was doing what God had called us to do so I think a little little bit of doubts one thing but a red flag something. You need to stop something that makes you uncomfortable something that makes you nervous. Those are not just doubts. Those are big fat red flags that God's blessing in your life to say. This might not be who I have for. You take a minute to step back and figure it out before you just force it forward. I think I'm kind of in the same boat. I really never had doubts about our future together. Even when I decided to go to Memphis a didn't even talk to you I i. I'm going to Memphis cool. Can't wait at deb one. I think we'd been dating about two years and I came to a piece about the decision and I never really even thought anything of it. I think people kind of go through that well. Are we going to stay together. We're going to break up. We're going to be far away. I never even really had those thoughts. I I just assumed that exactly what happens. Yeah so I think I'm with you I. I never really had doubts about our future but of course along the way in it think it was different for me. The people that you had speaking into you knew me maybe not incredibly well but but knew me and were around me. The the people that I was interacting with the Memphis didn't really know you that well I mean you were there on weekends occasionally and wouldn't interact with all the people that I interact with so those those people speaking into me. I didn't have that basis. So they didn't really have a way to say yes. She's the one for you or you know different things like that. Give Relationship Advice Vice. Want somebody they didn't even know. I think it was a little bit different different situation on my side so this next one was about the proposal so all kind of talk about my end in a a second but did you expect that I was going to propose or did you have any expectation on the timing of the proposal. Hindsight I should have I. I remember sitting on the couch. It might have been around Christmas Bray some point when you were at home for a long time and we sell on your parents couch and your mom's like pulling out all these like antique rings that she has and making me try try them on and that's weird. We do that every weekend. It's just a thing we do at our house so I should have maybe picked up on. Someone's going on but I thought maybe she's just real excited about about these rings right now or also just bury. I'm always going to want to please who I think is going to be my future mother-in-law so she wants rings these rings on as many times as she wants me to of we settle. That did that and I remember coming down. There were two things that kind of I should have noticed about it is i. The entire family came down like your sister her and her husband and our nephew and my mom and like all of like just tons of people were down with us so that was weird but to you never ever have cared what I've worn like I mean you've not ever had special requests on like. Hey we're that dresser that sure like I don't even think that even registered for you but that weekend when you don't remember doing this but you did he said. Hey you should wear a dress because it matched. The uniform was blue. Yes but you had said that Adam thought well this is weird but all right maybe realize that dress and so those things should've queued me off. But really I had no idea I mean I mean I knew we were GonNA get married and you're gonNA propose eventually but I didn't know it was gonna be that we can. I guess on my side I I knew a couple of things I knew one thing you said was that if I didn't do it in a really creative way or creative way or or something along those lines that you were going to say no and having try again I forgot I made those roles now that you say it I remember that hard line I do not want the no no answer to be the thing so try to put some thought into it and the second thing I knew was how much you valued pictures and being able to remember the time so I wanted there to be a natural way to have cameras there. How do you do that so I tried to act as well as I could? and kind of begrudgingly grudgingly. Say Yeah. I'll come out for pictures because I never come out for pictures in my uniform. I knew there was a particular uniform. You like a love. That's stripes with my whole heart art and so I knew the day that we typically wore those so I tried to orchestrate. That would come out after the game. We would get a couple of pictures and then I go in and change in one thing that I was is really surprised that you didn't pick up on was the twenty or thirty or so guys. That were like peeking around the corner. We were getting the pictures because my entire team knew that this was happening happening and they were all like watching it happen. And I'm pretty sure they all told their parents or hovering around. What did they say when you told them your propose I I mean? I think they knew that it was coming. You know okay. No I think they knew that it was coming so they weren't surprised or anything. I mean they were excited. But it wasn't ah a shock to them that this was happening. Darin minimum peeking around the corner but again just thought their weight and then the fifty or so other people that are just hovering around just hovering just watching a lot of pressure especially if you're a guy who just like wants to stay on the sidelines away from everything as much as possible. That would have been nice but anyways we got the pictures even think you ran away. I don't think you actually. I walked swiftly away for a second to gather myself and my thoughts. So would you have had me do anything different. I don't think so I mean I really. I wanted it to be specific to us. I wanted it to be specific to the season. We were in and I wanted to be surprised bribed and all of those things happened. Every single one of them happened. I do remember feeling real weird and I even hate some of the pictures like when you're supposed to is it a little presumptuous closer to stick your hand out or do they you know have you ever. I didn't think about these things until I was supposed to. I've never been proposed. I don't know really sure. What the in the pictures when I come back? I'm sure there's etiquette to I don't know I just stuck my hand out and was like all right. Put It on there like after you read away for a minute. I need you to move the Health Lavar so everyone uses this phrase. When you know you know right do you think that's a true statement or do you think there's validity in that? I know for me. There was never a time where I was ready for you to leave me whether it was in high school all the way through college and even now there's never a time that I look forward to and one like Phil Relief when you leave and failing that in high school is one thing because you're in the first ages of relationship feeling that in college was kind of assurance to me and filling it still now that there's never a time I don't look forward to you coming home and there's never a time that I get really sad when you leave especially if you go out of town or any of those things so looking back that is for me when you know you know me is. I didn't want to be away from you now. There are some like a needle any minute. Sometimes when you take off but for the most that's what it means and when you know you know that's what it means to me is. There was never a time. I didn't want you close to me. I think for me. It wasn't ever a moment that wasn't ever ever. You know it just hit me okay. This is how it's supposed to be it. Just kind of evolved into K Kinda like I was talking about when I made the decision to go away to school school. I just kind of knew that we would be okay or that. Everything would work out. How supposed to be so I think for me? That's that's kind of what it was. Were I guess. S You know. You're so you saw what God has for you and your in that and so you know that everything's GonNa be okay. Maybe you don't necessarily know exactly what is GonNa look like. Everything's GonNa work out so I think that for me is is Kinda the way I'd take that well and I think it comes with marrying your best friend which I know you hear hear that phrase all the time but you truly were are my very best friend. I mean even with the close relationships that I have in my life right now. There are things that I would not tell those people people but there's not one thing that I'm ever nervous to tell you I mean other than when I've filled my plate with too many things and have too many obligations that makes me members to tell you because of the shame that I feel and I know what you're GonNa say to me but I just think about the things that hurt my heart the most that things that upset me or make me angry or that can't seem to get over with the things that bring me the most joy or make me the most excited the things that have fill my cup the most. I'm never ever nervous to tell you any of those things because I've married my best friend. We talk about this to maybe. Sometimes I'm nervous to tell you things but I'm not ever nervous that you're gonNA GONNA decide to leave or whatever so we've got to the proposal eventually after you ran away for second you said yes Komo News time. I'm counting convincing. That's what I do marriage. I count keeps going so so we were engaged for a little over a year during that time when we went through the premarital counseling initially we wanted to get the discount on the marriage license. Gosh Yeah we did. I love a good keep on failed to this day. I won't go looking for him but but if you just hand me one man anyways We went through this with our youth pastor so he knew both of us he had since gone to another church in the area so we are premarital. Marital counseling with him. What is one of the most surprising things that you learned from that whole process? I let me tell you every minute of premarital counseling thing is worth it I mean every second of it is absolutely worth it and I did not see that coming. I mean I remember. We were like Gosh. This is annoying to have to do right now. We've been together forever. We we know we won't be getting to know each other. I mean it all felt so silly and we walk in there and we sit down you have to take two hundred plus question test. So they can intel kind of the compatibility and already knew I was like. Hey I know we're completely opposite like we are in every way if you meet us for the first time the first thing you say is you all are opposite completely. Different people knows for a while. It doesn't change the opposite. Still it is still that but I knew all that and I just thought we are too far along for this but we'll do it again for the discount. I just remember being blown away by the end of it of what alert about myself what I learned about how I interact with Ryan my reactions. Instead of my responses that I was very reactionary had never noticed that in that it was was one hundred percent result of family and upbringing in my past and I'd never ever even given that thought never considered it but even though like I was raised in all the boxes were checked that I should be completely emotionally healthy and stable person but I learned premarital counseling that I wasn't when it came to arguing arguing when it came to conflict when it came to any of those things I was not going to handle it in a healthy way and I would not have known that without premarital counseling I would not have known but my instinct is to shove it in a box and not talk about it. I would not have known that I was GONNA fire off words that were hurtful for almost no reason. I just learned so much about myself and how I handle relationships in general that I just now without it. I think I'm with you. I was honestly surprised. By the OH process I went into a probably with not the best attitude Just going six for Ryan a bad attitude like he's going to smile maybe fifteen percent less like that's that's a bad attitude for him. I don't know if that's terrible attitude but I went through it with like. Let's go. Check the box right. This is what you're supposed goes to do. Let's go ahead and get it over with right tackle thing but I I'm with you. I learned a ton. I still remember things that we talked about. That were brought up in the counseling today. That are true and I can remember you know not warning makes it sound bad but like the sirens. Ah but kind of a you know how we would maybe interact with each other. How you respond when I say certain things or how I would respond when you say certain things things like that the just really? The whole process was surprising based on what I thought we were GONNA get out of it. I mean I remember a specific example. He said that There will be times times when maybe Ryan will ask you to replace the paper towel roll like. Hey we're out of paper towels. Where are they? I'll do it. Doesn't you know like just something as simple as that in. It's GonNa push a button on you. And he was so right because my past made me reactionary to stuff like that to where. I'm assuming that what you're telling me is I'm not keeping up with what I should be doing around the house and I'm not doing enough to make sure that the family's taken care of and that I'm not doing the tasks that are set before me like I I will spiral and somehow you asking for some paper towels is that you don't want to be married to me anymore. Because good wife and all. You're trying to get paper towel you know trying to do is well above that milk. And I've made it into this big thing and it was so true of me that if I don't step back and check my reactions before their reactions there's always going going to be consequences to him and I just. I never would have thought of that before. I think. Some of those types of things we knew but it was really comforting reassuring hiring to hear somebody else say it hear somebody else say this might happen and then when it happens we know okay here might be the reason why I think it was a really helpful process basis. Plus we've got the discount so we got married. We moved in together. I had lived previously kind of on my own. I guess I had a roommate that Oh you had not lived on your own before you would stay with your parents for you know the year while we were engaged then we moved in together. So what was it like for you to one start living on your own and to start living. You're on your own as you say with a boy with a dirty nasty. All boys are that I don't care I don't care you are. Our boys are gross period. I will say this looking dead in the growth that we moved in this tiny little eight hundred square foot house it was. It was such such a tiny little house but it was the sweetest little house anyways so that way. If there was something on a place you notice it within seconds because it was so small so the whole house yet room yes like everything habits habits place that need to be in its place but you didn't really prescribe to that way of thinking it's just wherever you set it down is where it could stay and those little things is where I had to learn that reactionary Inari piece about myself that there are some things to get mad about and to create a bigger argument over and then there are some things that it's not worth it and I learned the first couple of years of marriage guy used to get onto you for not hanging the dish towel. Backup my perfectly picked. Seasonal dish towels always had out. You would use your hands and just like set them wherever you stopped wiping your hands at. Sometimes the kids do that now. That isn't we didn't have kids in our first. Two years tiny. I'm sorry I need you to remember back the dog. Yeah but I didn't think I was a clean freak and then I realized I'm a clean freak just in the sense that I like things to be where they go and it causes me anxiety Zaidi in my heart if there's clutter and mess still now like I can't handle it but I had to get used to that. You did not feel that way and we had to find some sort of middle ground quickly with that well living in a house for four years I had one roommate. Another guy I of course and so you. We lived in a little bit different way than what kind of I guess your expectation was and so I kind of had to get behind and grace filled way to describe. Describe the way that you all live. Yeah we weren't our house wasn't the cleanest I'll I'll I'll freely admit that pick up when I was coming into town now. I'll give you that. I did well picked up not cleaned up difference but getting used to. I think you've said this before. Used to how we use spaces is in different ways was a challenge And I think maybe with any marriage starting off you have those moments where hey. I've always done it this way. You've always done it this way. We gotta pick a lane here. It's just showing knowing. Now it takes time to create that new normal. That is not just going to happen as soon as you are living adding together for that first week all of a sudden figure out no it took a lot of time for us to establish that new normal so over the years. Obviously obviously we've had arguments. Maybe it's about the towel hanging on the on the rack here. How would you describe our conflict resolution skills? This is probably where I'm most thankful for. Our time are four years long distance because we really had to figure out how to argue in a productive way especially with cell phones. It was one of the saddest things. Cell phones are couldn't slammed on the phone anymore. To make a point I had to actually verbalize what was making me mad. And so I think for for me I had to learn that you need to feel heard. It's extremely important to you to feel like I am engaging in listening with what you are trying to convey to me and not just flip and my instinct is to cut you off. Because I know that it will get you riled up even more you know like we when we get in these heated moments and because I came from a family two older brothers. I'm a button pusher. Let me figure out your button and I want to push it over and over again when I'm bad but I'd learn with you you are not reactionary at all like you are a you have a quiet frustration to you. When you're upset about something and I had to learn to read that about view that you're not gonna immediately yell about anything? You're not going to yell at me. You are not going to I toss around barbs and like but push buttons and be sarcastic and cut to it. You're not GonNa do any of that. That's not how you work. You have a quiet. Frustration is the only way I can describe it and I had to learn those cues into pick up up on those quickly because otherwise it grows in you and I can count on one hand the amount of times I've heard you raise your voice and I learned from those few times that you have to be pushed very hard and far to raise your voice and I just had to learn your quiet cues because it was different than anything I had ever ever dealt with so I think it's just learning the the size that the other person is upset because it's not always going to be angry words. It's not always going to be yelling. You have to learn how that other person can convey that emotion in the moments when they feel like they they can't and instead of letting feed my anger understanding what my part in it was that created the situation because there's always two sides these these disagreements these frustrations they never happen in a one-sided scenario ever something is always feeding them whether it's right or wrong accurate or inaccurate accurate. Something's always feeding it. So how am I feeding it. What have I done to create the scenario in accordance with what you had done as well I I wasn't saying I'm the one that always messes up? It's always have a part to play in the longer. I take to recognize that the longer I take to own that the bigger and harder is going to be to worked through. Yeah and and you mentioned I mean we were. I guess in some ways fortunate to have those four years apart because we did have to learn how to communicate. We also had to learn about timing timing. Sometimes things need to be resolved right then and there and so in our case it would have been a quick callback or something like that. Sometimes we need to just just sit on it for a while and having that time apart. I think we both kind of realized that I mean we don't have to be apart from somebody to realize something like that and figure. You're out the EBB and flow of the timing. But I think we figured out early on sometimes we both just need time to sit and think about it and having that natural all distance I think really helped with that or help. Move that forward. I think one of the biggest things I've learned even in the past couple of years with any conflict not just with us but with any conflict across across the board is I need to think about. How is this person hearing what I'm saying? What kind of stay are they emotionally with their thoughts or whatever else how are they hearing what I'm saying? How do I need to adjust what I'm saying where they here in the best possible way because in the heat of a moment? You don't always think that way but I'm trying to still still actively to adjust my responses based on the other person instead of just reacting with what I feel in the moment and I think that goes along with maybe kind of the next question to talking about hard conversations. I mean it doesn't have to be an argument to be a hard conversation. How do you think we've kind of learned how to have those hard conversations or bring up those hard conversations with with each other and I said it before the things that I get most nervous to talk to you about out of anything else is? I am overcommit her. It is my Mo.. I always have a million things and I'm a fly by the seat of my pants. Kind of person like I'll figure it out as it comes and it will make it work and that's not you you. You are a planner. You want to know what's happening when it's happening. Who's going to be a part of it? You want to know every piece of it before you walk into anything crew and I never. I mean we had to learn UH early on how to invite people over and you ask me no less than one million times. How many people are coming in who it was and a lot of times? I couldn't even remember for who had invited. I'm just like whoever they show they show up. But we figure it out and that is not how you function on any level and yet I kept doing it even and to this day. I think I've got better about the year in the past year But it took you just finally being like this kills me like I can't. I can't even ajoy anyone coming over because always wondering who else can come through the door. Like how many more people. We don't have pizza order well. He always over orders on never nervous about it. But it's it's things like that with hard conversations. I always dread dread it. It makes me nervous when I have to come to you and be like. Hey I have this this in this going on and it's usually not a week or two weeks before it's usually like the day of that. I'm telling you what I have gone on. It's almost like an adult. What you'd be disappointed in me and when I can tell you these things I know you're going to be disappointed in me and so I put off telling you and I put off telling you not put off telling you until I absolutely have to tell you those hard conversations I had to learn and because you are willing to have that conversation with me that you're not going to be upset or disappointed if you know in advance like that's just your personal preference and I don't have to build it up so much that I wouldn't have the conversations of how the things that I knew would disappoint you? Because I didn't want to be the reason you're disappointed so I think yeah what I said earlier with knowing how you need to hear something or how I need to say in a way that you'll receive it well but also learning what your your pet peeves are. What drives you nuts and instead of avoiding them altogether addressing them early on and just saying this is what's happening and what's coming? Please don't Value Avenue. I think the more time you have to talk through and working out the better. It's GonNa be in the end so speaking of conversations in general we have two kids now which dominates our our every waking moment. How have the kids changed our relationship and maybe how we worked in some ways to keep a healthy marriage with the kids I think in lots of ways? We jokingly say this all the time but like there's no more conversations in the car there's more conversations anywhere while they're around very church. There was a commercial for a show on the other day and it had this kid next to his mom and his mom. Mom Mommy Mommy. Mommy mom and I've never felt so seen as I did through watching that commercial because that is our live and it was filmed in her house again. Okay for someone who loves someone being attentive to them like you. Do you want me to be attentive when you're in a conversation with me and not distracted that's probably the hardest thing for you to get us to like. I can leave a conversation and come back to it as many times as I need to. But it drives you bananas to do that and it drives me bananas to not. It's like you have this selective hearing hearing whereas like you don't even hear it like if a kid's freaking out on the other side of the house you just continue on as if nothing's happening I don't understand how it works but you do it like we'll be in the car Dr and you will break at a yellow light when there's a screaming child in the bag and I'm ready to reach my foot over installed on the gas. I don't understand how you do it but yet you do it. The pediatrician said the you learn their cries. I don't believe you learn their gripes. I beg it all falls into they'll be fine for you but I think that has changed a lot. Oh I think that it wasn't until Donald said to me. Hey the order of your priorities in your life needs to be God your spouse and your kids and I I did not know that was the order thought kids come first kids everything priority but it works that way because our relationship is the foundation of our family and our kids are going to be better for it when we're taking care of our relationship and that looks like attention to you when everything else is chaos and looks like not saying. Hey Hey I'm too tired of having a conversation I just want to go to bed because by the time I get to bed time I want to be too bedtime. You know what I'm saying like by the time I took those kids in I'm ready to be tucked in. I'm done for the day so I think learning that. That time is almost sacred for us. Even if it's not talking the whole time but just being each other's presence actively in in attentively banned Jewish presence was that we learn how to do in a healthy way and maybe the word is overused intentional right. I mean just being intentional about the time we do have together because we have less. Just us with no distractions because we do have the kids and so. I think just trying to be intentional about all those times and Dan Scheduling. I mean I know that sounds so cheesy and not earth shattering at all but scheduling time for just us when we don't have the kids where we can take breath and just talk so certainly. They've changed their lives. They change our lives in good ways but we definitely had to be intentional about keeping our marriage strong. All right sorry last last question here. What did no one tell you about marriage? I think the Thing that I've had to learn and I think I almo. I only sedative maybe within the past six months is that you have to continually get to know who you're married to. I think it's easy to think I know. Oh you when we get married and you're going to be the same person throughout the Ryan that I'm married to you right now is different than the Ryan that I'm married eight eight years ago. I say with a lot of girls in the you are because the seasons we've gone through together the changes that we've been through. I mean whether it is with with kids whether it is changes it is in our extended family stuff. That's happened in our families or job changes. Everything is constantly shaping us throughout our entire lives an all of these different seasons of life have poured into us and taken away from us. Think it just means for us that I learned learned to ask you important questions not just once but over and over again so instead of a hey how was your day. Good in we move on I. Actually they push a little more to hear what happened in your day and what it meant for you what it meant for us. Whatever that might be I think it just meant I just learned that I'm going to need to dig a little deeper consistently and intentionally for us to continue going in a healthy direction? Yeah that's a good instruments. It's a little more than that but I think for me. A lot of people told us. We'll make sure to pay attention to this. Because you might start struggling with that or you you know finances are going to be really hard or you know all of those different things but no one tells you all the fun that you're going to have. I mean I mean really and truly we've had a lot of fun we've had hard time certainly but overall we've we've just had fun always sound like a professor when you say certainly and I'm good with it I like it just when he say it sounds very factual you have your own podcast for sure phone that works too. Yeah does tell you the fun that it is. Remember Whitney talking about that a long time ago in the marriage podcast that it's just plain fun and it is because you are going through life with your very best friend. which is why it's so important? Who you pick to Mary in white matter so much because the fund that you're going to be able to have like it's got to be someone that you can spend your whole life with and I remember one one of my favorite days when people ask me? What's your favorite thing about being married? It's that at the end of the night. You don't have to go home. Someone told me you're going to love that. I thought I don't know why is it that that big of a difference but it is like at the end of the night. You don't have to go home. We are home. That is probably one of my most favorite things but I hope he don't forget the very very last question no so we like to end every episode with just having a chance for you to share. What are you so happy that someone did tell you something you could be into right now or just anything you to show that you've been listening? It was good. I wish you could have stayed his vase and also his hand motions and in all of it just. It wasn't the full package and I'm sorry to everyone who didn't get to witness it firsthand but What do I love right now? Okay I am so so oh into my clinic take off the day. I need to make sure that's what it's called. I'm pretty sure it's called clinic. Takeoff the day. And it's this weird like bomb that you put on your face. I know I'm winning. You over your all over your face. Then you take a wet wash cloth and wipe it off all of your makeup every single single speck of it Ryan. I'm not exaggerating every speck of your makeup. Certainly can you imagine the gone and I certainly do you guarantee you that when you do your double clans. Because I'm sure you also double cleanse if it step one of your plans and your second step there will be no makeup wiped off if you take it to the bank. I'm telling you this stuff is good so I think it's called clinic. Take off the day. I'm fairly certain what is called like. I'm going to say ninety five percent sure I love that good. That's ninety five percent is good but let me tell you something. It's not cheap so I'm sorry I'm just full disclosure here. It's not it's okay. Get a coupon so mine on is. Somebody recently. told me about geocaching so cool so embarrassed that you're talking about but me and my nephew nephew you know I've been going. He's really gets to wear your car. Goes I do ask a special place for my pin to sun all the logs and everything the good thing about it is. It's free so that we can afford your clinic thing or whatever so it works out. Yeah also your beard. Bib is great so if anyone if you're married till man with a beard that he has to trim it and you're sick and tired of trying to clean up all those tiny little hairs that you came ever get all of them and you find him every time you go to brush your teeth. I'm not speaking from experience. Obviously obviously I'm just kind of describing it as I've been told this beard bid. It goes around their neck and connects to the mirror. You think because that closed the door. Because I'm pretty sure looks really goofy. I'm not actually laid eyes on and although I would love to. It is an effective way to keep those tiny little hairs out of. Does your business so give that. What did you even find that Amazon.com course we're all great things found that? Hey you did a great job by I interview. You feel good about it. Maybe come back from invited. We'll have to say you've got a few connections to get back on the show so we'll see where it lands but pay someone said this to me the the other day and it was one of the truest statements that they've said they said you married an incredible guy and I even get slightly mushroom thinking about that statement because I know how true it is and so. I know you didn't want to do this but you did it because I married incredible. Let's all just crowd together now. Kenley later we'll see you next week for part. Two of February relationships are willing to come up with a catchier title. But here we are which I love ending every episode telling me how thankful I am for you that you would take your time to listen to what we're trying to do so if you loved it or even if you have feedback I wanna hear about it. You can either hop on over to I tunes and leave us a review or you can just see me on social official media. Usually I'm on instagram. The most. It's at C. E. 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Part 2: Ask Us Anything Episode

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Part 2: Ask Us Anything Episode

"Keun Buksh Boom Boom. Boom. Boom what's up everybody you're listening to the hustlers flow chart podcast. Wolf and Joe Fear. Kicked, a welcome back. This is part of our three hundred episode we couldn't commit to. We're committed to the whole thing, but we just split it up for y'all. Yeah. A little bit more digestible. Technically this the three hundred and first episode. But really it's like the three hundred third or something. If you count our weekend episodes, we sometimes throw point crab he ever screwing up numbers now. This is still are three hundred legit episode. We're just splitting it into a second part. Yeah. What's numbers anyway, right? No, it's all man made concept. What's the point? No matter just testing the end. Yeah, alright. So. Read these questions better than I can I printed this out and this is like literally of three point I got pretty good is, but let's preface this really fast for folks who might not have heard the interim. The part one is that Basically, we asked a lot of our folks everyone in our community to ask some questions anything goes even what Matt. Does. I don't know I can't think of anything could. Tired actually. That's not good. Wake up I drink some coffee. We need to do another one of your breathing jumping gambling exercises before we hit record on the longer episode because that was a much longer than we anticipated we did we used the X.. P. T. APP. It's red and we were doing some jumping breathing exercises together like. Fire Fire breathing in like jumping Jack, take stuff in school. So we've got jacked but what you're saying is basically we had a lot of folks give us their questions about anything and we have basically overwhelmed with questions. So we're there's no way in hell. We're going to answer all these questions, but we're going to do our best and we'll call people out by name if they give us a name and I think they all gave us nick seems. First names but Yeah. Go the so yeah. Like Matt said three point? Font. So we might stumble little bit with Joe Has Lizard is I don't that's a good point. All right. So wearing glasses because I didn't think I looked at. Not because the computer glasses make you. Oh, you mean like, no no. No. I'm supposed to wear like legit prescription glasses. That's a good point. You wore glasses in. Mexico to stop because like I didn't really like how they felt on my nose and I thought I looked better without glasses. I'm very vain sometimes. I'm just like context. Do It for you know I can't do it. I haven't been dead. No I tried like once like context lash like a week for me. Do it. GETS THEM LEADERS SIN. than. It's pretty cool. Should we just go down the list so we are gonNA. Take. Always. Do This will probably be a second set of notes imagine. Yeah. Let's do it. Yeah. So hustling chart, dot com slash COMP, you can get all the notes. On. This episode in all of our answers in written form I guess. This is GONNA be weird. We're just give the transcripts with this kind of the same thing. Yeah. Whatever's easy for I want folks to get some value out of these and I'm sure you will not just the person asking the question of course. We there's a lesson for everyone. No I I mean I kind of flipped through the questions. Read a single one yet I'm just. I haven't I haven't read them. All. Irish judging the fun. I'm like, how can I I've read a few of them. I haven't read them all. Okay I'm obviously there's a lot but I read I read a few of them in most of them are sort of general questions that I think will be beneficial to. All right. So let's go. Let's start with the Austin. Sam's so love that guy he's an awesome dude he asked what's a strategy learned an early guest I thirty episodes or so that you're still using today could be personal or business growth related. Because I don't remember exactly. Well, we know exactly what's going okay. Well, I have a couple thoughts. I'm pretty sure it was in thirty days Aaron Fletcher. Man Okay earn Fletcher method that was exactly where my head was going off. Destroy Yeah delegate. Where where Aaron map that out that was like such a simple simple frickin framework for. For automation like setting yourself up for in the business. So that one hundred percent I was really big Well, okay. No continue your thought on that. There's a second I'm trying to remember what I say. So Yeah Yeah Katie as you're thinking of your thing K., D. has come up in different variations I feel like all the time lately and I think it's because we talked about in part one that we've been we've shaved off so much access in our business where we're realizing like why the hell are we working so hard Oh. We don't have to do another Frickin livestream because someone else. Because Molly told us that we need to do a livestream getting but just random example. But like we don't have to do pinter's crap because someone says pincher says hot like we were doing that kind of shift for far too long. Yeah. So the K. D. method I feel like has been like it's like when you buy a car and then you start. Seeing, the same car off the road I think that's because we're so focused on K. Dean shitting our business right now just seeing it like, Oh yeah. Look everybody's talking about like eliminating stuff. Yeah. Well. So some of the other ones that come to mind like I couldn't say for certain they're in the top of the I thirty, but they're definitely within the first. Scissors. I would say they're definitely within the top like or St Your seventyish there in the third of our show, I don't know if that's the or sale. Yeah. In the first. Few Yeah. No I'm thinking go Gosh Dang and show no. I'm thinking of the ones that like they taught us something on the podcast and to this day we're still using some of those things. So Dennis you one dollar a dollar a day add strategies. We're still fricking cranking on those every single day hurt molly Kurt Molly he taught but we are already using it though yeah I don't know if that we didn't learn it on the show in real time and then use it. Yeah. But Dennis you dollar day strategy we technically we learned it at his session a few months earlier, he is not legit. Not Answering his question. We already answered this question. We have a lot to get through Dang No. Okay. So. The first time we interviewed Rolling Frazier was the same day. We interviewed Dennis use. That's right in the same area, and when we interviewed Rolin Frazier, we talked about us a lot from Roland str- just general strategies I. Guess Yeah Yeah he actually. Okay. So Rolling Strategies for that's definitely not within this thirty podcasters so. That was hundreds in my why I can't I need like. Laundry memory of the two of us to, and you're sucking right now I can't remember like the frigate like I don't open episode was episode twenty nine or episode thirty one well to A. Way. The best answer we can give is Aaron Fletcher K. A. D. Episode. We still like constantly say, what should we do with this k.? Eighty. Agree. I agree. Let's just leave it at that because I can't remember the rest of like what else was it our first thirty? Kind of brain. Go ahead what's the next question you can read and I can't Tell. It's Ellison Day Paoli. All right. Nice. Pronunciation I. Think you nailed it better than I would have. Okay. So she as Alison S I own a boutique employee benefits firm, not an information product business or e Com site. I get a lot of value from your podcast, the newsletter courses, but I don't think I apply them very well, what would be your best piece of advice about how to apply your strategies to be to be and large B. Two B. Businesses. My clients tend to have over a hundred employees that need medical insurance. So says she's Boutique employee benefits firm who've. Yeah the the the question that I have in the the the sort of mental roadblock have with this question is when you say like how you implement your strategies, it's almost like. You know which strategies because we talk about so many different things. Well, let's all on. No. Well, let's let's narrow down because I'm getting some idea. So she's a she's a boutique employee benefit firm. She's not a info product or all that she's actually like that she does be to be so she's wanting to apply what we teach be to be and in their clients tend to have like over one hundred employees that need medical insurance I mean. Talk about podcasting. Already, you can have a podcast definitely like so creek content. So I I mean. Here's the thing I feel like every single business if it's B. Two B. B. to C. whatever. C., which is cat to cat just made that up wouldn't that be consumer to consumer. Wanted involved cats I. Don't know I was just thinking of calendar to turn new in these acronyms B. to see means business to consumer why wouldn't see to see consumer to consumer? Sh found a hole in my theory. My hypothesis. All right. What does saying basically is like everyone has relationships. They WANNA build for their business and to get basically get that lead flow coming in without them having to work for the lead flow and what we've found is in So many other people who do this is leveraging podcast to do that one hundred percent I think asking or having your own both yeah. I. Think podcasting is such like an underrated. Sort of concept in marketing. I think podcasting is probably the best networking tool on the planet that I have ever come across in my life, and if you were listening to our part one of this episode, you'll realize that. Oliver successes come from networking, come from getting to know more and more people at podcasting has been what's enabled that did okay. Yeah. So to keep this answer, very simple because there's obviously we can overload you and were very good at this and we should probably stop being good at this flipping it and If we were to like eighty twenty or even ninety ten or answer, maybe ninety five five are frigging answer is used podcasting for all the reasons just said and do deals new deals with the people who do like a lot cast is the foot in the door. Yes and do deals with the podcast hosts that you go on their show because you have a unique solution to maybe people that are within their network said, think of some Jay Abraham stuff go leveraging other people's podcasts network like the people they've had on as guests maybe they could be your clients. Yes. So you're going on their platform, but then you're making a relationship with. The podcast hosts but then you follow the podcast hosts on or after the show asking for referrals to people that can send you leads and guess what you can pay a percentage of those referrals to that podcast hose for introductions to people that you know, become your clients build their to lead flow. You don't even need to start your own shows go to other people showed and you could start that today. Yeah. Well, I mean even if even if you're in like sort of maybe a quote unquote unsexy industry, you like you know a lot of people might think Oh nobis GonNa to do a podcast around you know medical insurance you know. But here's the thing you don't necessarily need a lot of listeners now because here's how here's how you leverage the podcast you go and talk to the other people in your industry and ask them if they want to be on your podcast that's your foot in the door to other people in ear see, hey, I have a podcast him about medical insurance You know we interview the the top people in the field. We'd love to have you this podcast right and that's your foot in the door with some of these types of people. That's how you grow the connections. I think it's great. Yeah. So you could use it Yeah. So both of these strategies are perfect answers. You can leverage other people's platforms, do some deals if you want good lead flow and then you're getting content created and all that stuff and you can or you can start your own podcast have your own platform be seen as the guy that's just basically put people up on a platform but you're the one cherry picking who you WanNa talk with and then do deals with them after it's. Like it's like you're basically generating your own deal flow and that can hundred percent use for. B., two, B.. Think that answer is leverage podcast to like the network and creatively connected to the people you need to get connected to to get more of the clients you need to get was a hell of a question though actually there's no question mark there. Wasn't a question. It was a of statement but greet Stephen Already Carlos Thousand Carlos. Don't have last name for Carlos how to grow a list from one hundred to one thousand than thousand to ten thousand in more. But full of warm P W. M and ready to buy leads PWA I'm not sure this. P Pre warmed maybe I dunno know. Warr or DUNNo. I. What are normally with the bees acronym buyer intent leads? Yeah. Like ready to buy people. We all wish we had all ready to buy people but you know what? Actually what is it headed grow? As one, hundred, thousand and one, thousand, two, thousand, ten, thousand. So I have some thoughts on the On the gross side of things. Do you have some ideas? because I have some ideas on how to like on the buyer intent side of things. Okay. We'll start with that. Well, I was just going to reference almost like George Bryant to be very honest because like his episode Kinda gets into it, but he teaches a lot of that training where he gave us a whole session how we met with him last Friday and you know to get people to be very warm. Obviously, you want a nice you know build value on however they entered your ecosystem, your email list but that indoctrination fees, it's like the first four emails or so three to four emails you WanNa make sure you're making sure you're like training them to love you. I think George says make it harder for them to leave than it is to stay So it's like you do that in the span of right right when they joined the first three or four emails. Then you're basically conditioning them to keep you are keep them opening your emails and on your links and then taking action. So as long as you're cool giving a lot of value up front but then. Continuing that conversation not making overwhelming I think he can get to that like higher engagement level. Yeah. But growing the list. Yes. So growing the list is the IT served tough because there's so many different ways to grow a list and it also depends on like. like are we talking like spending money to grow this list or are we talking about growing it for free? Great what's your? What's your favorite? Maybe free and paid loans well quicker slow. Well no one of each that's okay. So You know if I was kind of just starting over and I had like money in the bank, I would probably put most of my focus on Seo to be quite honest because I think seo is sort of the highest return on time. So you're saying that's that's the slow route to this low route to grow, but it's also the most long-term route that we've found. Right? Like we're building our list today at the rate that we're building it because of content we created two years ago in the warm traffic because they're very focused on whatever that topic. Like you know, we're optimizing for for keywords and things like that. So only the only people that are finding, it are finding it for the keywords that we're trying to optimize for. So you know SEO is probably like my favorite way to grow list because you can do it for free. It has like kind of putting in time and and some work to do it But you know the quicker way. Well, there's really two ways if you want to build a list really fast really quick goes a company that has list that you've want choir one, go acquire go acquire list. But. That's the type of stuff that we're doing. Now outside of that probably just facebook ads I would probably just rican barter actually with other people like you can go reg A. List if you WANNA like like partner up with a a facebook group or something I- leveraging other people's like, yeah you could do all sorts of stuff. Yeah. We'll. When we were first starting out going going from like zero, one, hundred and one hundred to one thousand I can tell you how I did it like very very early days. I was doing email lists swaps. I was going to say, Hey, if you mail if you sent an email to my opt in page We'll swap I'll send an email to your often page Houston an email to my opt in page, and we'll we'll swap and you would go find people that had similar size listens to you list you buy a two hundred people in my list. I'd people that had two hundred people on their list and I would go and do this swap thing and you know obviously had to be sort of similar audiences and I would say like getting two thousand is pretty easy by just doing that just kind of. Find other people that are your level that are trying to go their list at the same time and and start doing some swaps. Obviously, you can't do that from zero, two thousand. You got to do some organic stuff to get to your first handful and to do that, I would just go and engage in communities and things like that. I think we're I think we're good here man yeah. Going from one, thousand, ten, thousand I would focus on facebook ads driving driving facebook ad traffic to just to an opt in page. Sweet. Simplest simplest path. Let's move on. We got to pick up the pace. We've only entered three and we got sh- busy ton more to go through. Go. RIGHT SNUB WANING DIF. It's called a statement, my friend Dan Ryan. Why don't you ever have Dan Ryan as a guest? Why would we? He's been on his a guest? Yeah. That's true. Yeah. He came on episode with Tom Breeze and he came on the episode with Mike Roads I think this isn't The Dan Ryan I think about fake wrote this in I think is that's his email address. He has been mentioned in this is still is his statement now now, we didn't ask for. We didn't ask for a statement Dan Okay I'm just going to say that right now you asked a question but now you're adding a statement you actually add added two sentences. This isn't fair so. One time about picking up the pace here he has been mentioned in so many episodes. So many times asking for a friend. So. He got a shout out on this one and he got shot in part one of this one. I think because he he took up so much airtime all those royalties that we owe him for mentioning his name are all knol and void. Yeah. So we're back to square one now Dr. Moving on dwayne. dwayne asks who the? ric three hundred episodes is an awesome house don't Ya. Congratulations I've been listening to every episode for the past year in a whole binder. Full of your show notes that are highlighted and marked up only got a cool. I get Dwayne of senior the group. This is red. So he says best no notes in the Biz that's because the Su-. My question is for the younger Matt in Joe when you guys first started with an idea in no team, how did your significant other support you? Question were they on board with the new adventure humidity your vision I know it's a lot easier when I was able to properly explain to my missus and get her fully on board tag get going after the end goal. So, how does your first wife take it? Well, known that I've gone through four now. J. K. never been divorced. No both I'd say, both our wives are pretty damn supportive. I. Remember in the very beginning when we're going to invest in Alex Jeffreys shoutout to part one of this episode. Um We're investing in Alex Jeffreys course like it was a big discussion it was announced dollar course at the time when they're buying maybe even five hundred I don't remember somewhere between five hundred thousand dollars I. Think it was a thousand. Yeah. So I think it was nine, nine seven because it had to end in seven sure So but like thousand dollars was like a fricking lot of money for us at the time I had recently quit my job is I've told them previous stories and? I wasn't making any money. So were like my wife was supporting at the time and So a thousand dollars was a crazy amount of money and I just remember like we were talking about and we got emotional and grew like crying about it and like we're like shit I don't know if we should do it. It's such a risk thousand dollars a lot of money and we ended up putting it on a credit card. When we did it as well. So I like that was Literally, no debt until that time, you know the other than a mortgage I did I've mortgage debt But yeah, it was it was a huge decision and like I think Alana told me something at the time about like you know why? Because you're agonizing over it and you're trying to make this decision and want you to regret not making the decision later. So I think you should do it just based on like how passionate I was and how sort of emotional we were getting around whether or not? Yes we should do it you. Yes or no like I think she could tell it was something I really really wanted to try to do and she was like you're gonNA regret not doing it. You should do it So that's cool. Yeah. For Heather on my side she I mean that was a big talk wasn't as emotional but. definitely, I think before then shared, he knew that I was like pretty damn determined to make something happen online and not work a day job because at the time of doing a corporate gig and really feeling burnt out and you and I were going down the rabbit hole reading a lot of stuff from Jason Moffitt, every member in Like Butterfly Marketing with Mike Ville same and I was like reading that stuff whenever I was like not working at the day job is kind of like you show part one at business manifesto to that one too. I was reading that one is much but same era. And before I think that coaching was like we invested and she already knew in college too and we weren't even married yet all of this stuff was happening like all the same time for me But she she was very supportive and still is my biggest fan and she was like, yeah, well, I want similar to Alana. They know they talked as well like their close as well. Time they're talking to probably every day his well in some fashion, it seems like. So it's like they. I think they were collaborating with each other because they knew that we are always collaborating and like really passionate. So they both. Knew that but interesting thing heather told me lately are not lately but. Maybe like a year in after I started like Kinda got some momentum she was like Yeah. Your mom came to me and like maybe a few months in like how long are you gonNa let Joe do this thing. In my mom's always very supportive but she was like, Hey, how long are you going to be able to support him and actually like support him in this vision to 'cause she was financially like mainly supporting and that's what our that's when Heather's like. Oh, through and through. So it's interesting to hear like it's it's scary. Yeah. It's like I didn't come from an entrepreneur background. So yeah, I mean we didn't like take the decision to like jump ship from our day jobs slightly and our wives sort of I think supported it and I think Put us in a place where like they trusted our decision? Yeah. Hundred percent itself. That's that good question dwayne. The seem Merriam asked already have a micro niche in the health and beauty ancient. space using natural products is it a good idea to restrict affiliate marketing only to agent be or should I also include the usual digital marketing tools to? Milton beauty and digital marketer tools. I mean doesn't seem like they go together but maybe I, just I don't know who the audience is. If they audience is only interested in hearing about health and beauty products and you start mailing about like, Hey, go by click funnels from me I don't think that would go over well I I guess I'm not totally well, if we look at this so let's see here. Let's dissect this further Yeah unfortunately, we don't have you guys live. So you have a health and beauty. Business in the in the natural product space is a good idea to restrict affiliate marketing only to that space. Let's answer that I I. Don't think it is because of, for instance, we're doing a deal with Ohi energetics and You know we'll Clyde in has been on the podcast and. They have a product. Ohio. To C E product they want us and like we're experimenting some affiliate promotions to our community and in with some content marketing and other places but. We're not for newer based kind of business in our audience know that I think like really the best answer I could give would be to like sort of slowly start to test other types of products and just see how people react to them. Like when we were doing homebrew academy with Brad Costanzo we we did a little test and when I say we brad pretty much ran this whole thing but we did a little test where we set up landing page called beer money blueprints where we were going to teach people how to make money online by talking about like beer recipes and stuff like that I, don't remember the entire context but anyway, Brad created this little mini training that he he was going to sell about the about how to make money and mail it to the homebrew list of people that are interesting to learn how to make beer at home and he mailed and it didn't go over great. It had a few sales but nothing really to write home about and So we stopped trying that kind of offer to that list, but you never really know I think you could start with us. We talk to mostly entrepreneurs and business people. So we can find a good crossover we can go okay Ohi energetics they have CBD oils which helped like with you know supposedly with brain function and and you know more focus, and here's all the benefits of this kind of thing, and we can sort of make that connection between business and that product. So it's not a huge stretch for us. From like health and beauty over to like marketing tools that I've just read that stretches a little bit big unless you can find some way to connect the dots for people. Co I like that Yeah Tessa waterskiing get hurt and wrap it up in value I. think that's all going to be the case All right. So Brian Bennett s what is your criteria for choosing software and content vendors to promote as affiliates some examples, compensation model, support model materials, audience, etc, etc. One hundred, percent compensation model. All I care about is the money. We products, they don't even pay us in it's true. Shadow stuff all the time probably more that don't. Yeah. No, I would say are. A, two biggest criteria are we've got to actually like us and like the product. Yes and top. Definitely, like we're not, we never really talked about stuff that we don't use or have tried ourselves. So that that's the number one and then. was going to be my second point here Oh. The other point is we like to be able to build relationships with the product creators So like if if the person who selling the product wants to be untouchable and wants to be like this guru who nobody can get in contact with we're probably out because we want to be able to jump on the, we want to be collaborators with the people that we affiliate with, and we don't want to be just like passive affiliates who they don't notice us. Exactly. Right. So we want to be able to build that relationship and it's gotta be something that we use ourself and really those are. Compensations cool to know but that's never really a deciding factor like. And less were like scaling and offer you know using paid traffic or or we WANNA make sure we have good cash flow and offer. It's not going to be like this huge delay and. So that's all after a lot of that is built into the relationship aspect like that kind of thing we like to be able to workout with the product Creator hip. Cope Gay. Question Brian at Louis Louis. Lorenzo. How do you manage your business entity, for example, bank account payroll taxes, or this is all the fun stuff. Pay Taxes. Expensive CPA's attorneys. I'd like to know all the professional details of Your Business Administration. Thanks Shit is this stuff we were supposed to be doing? I haven't done that stuff in twenty years. Let's see how do you manage your business entity play well here let's just let's just keep it simple. So we have a CPA of course, and our CPA we use for entity, but we also have them for other entities, runs our payroll as well and and our payroll. So we pay him in his company to do that for us So we can have a centralized person there attorney we have. We have a couple of tourneys that we've used that we use just on contract basis. That's like things like agreements mainly. Yeah. that's pretty much all you gotta do there There's we did an episode with a guy named Dana Robinson a little while ago. Some if you go back to that episode, we do talk about like entities type stuff and he's he's actually the attorney that we use when we need stuff reviewed and created Yep. in in terms of like taxes and in all these other. Like taxes against CPA but we're getting advice. I would say from variety of people in our CPA, give I mean that's a key thing. Great CPA. She'd give you good advice out for you so. Are Constantly trying to learn and pretty much like everything on that list you just said Yeah. So Bank account payroll taxes, expenses, CPA's attorneys, et CETERA. We have like Dana who talked to any sort of like legal stuff that we need to do, and then almost everything else on that list is our CPA, handles it for US pretty much. So when it complicated Louise and if you need to hire some like maybe a part time CFO or something yeah. To give you like a structure that fits your business and we do have a bookkeeper to who yeah, that's true. UPDATES quickbooks every month to me? That's the bank account yet good point. So bookkeeper definitely that's your step one like if you're looking at just get something going to get a bookkeeper I Adam minimum because at least you'll know what you're playing with, and then probably a CPA after that. All right. So gay question Louis. Sorry tyrone showing how you doing buddy buddy mody booty. All right. I am considering buying niche websites to grope or fully online assets that generate income from affiliate products rather than starting from scratch. It appears there's more demand a purchase online products due to covid. So it might be faster to find websites that are already ranked in have traffic then. It with affiliate products and an email list do you have any recommendations on what type of websites I should be considering in where I can find these? Have you considered this path in your affiliate promotions? Thanks we have definitely considered it and talked about it. Buying websites probably take we have with homebrew academy was actually US Tempting that. We did definitely try it and we could have made it something but it was a focus issue that was more of a focus issue, not a skill set issue in actually that would probably answer your last question. Yeah. Have you considered it? That's probably why we're not doing more of that because like now we have opportunities that can come to us within our network partner up more than doing it this way. But yeah going back to It's not really world that we operate in. So like I don't have a ton of advice Let's see. Well, how to find these websites I mean there's websites for that Napa Empire Flippers. Going to slip by if to. Flip Yeah Flip leads a good site empire flippers are the two I think. Sometimes maybe craigslist. Is that a thing I dunno or know by his cell by Biz cell. That's a good one and I think in Australia I know that's where you're living. There's probably some other websites that are local. Yes. It does that those are places that you can kind of hunt for him. I would also put it out there like go onto facebook and just say, Hey, I'm looking to buy a website if you have one that gets a little bit of traffic already in your thinking about selling it contact me I might be interested to see what people throw at you. Tyrone. All right brother. Let's get a little bit more creative here actually even then our answers. He interviews Sony. Amazing people tyrone does I'm an in sorry Tara I think it's actually property investors. So shout out there great podcast in tarrant been on our show actually to. Think laterally like you have all these connections start frigging just putting it out to your network and every single guess you've ever had on your show like cinnamon email. Just frigging ask them because you have this these people trust you already so like they're probably going to give you some off market deals or you could say, like, Hey, you got a project that you're just like tired of or know someone else like I'll take it off their hands. Do I. Bet you could do a deal with no money down and do some role in frazier stuff and Indu like deferred payment slash like just I dunno or whatever. Like yeah. If you haven't done Rowlands challenges definitely go that it's fifty five bucks. Do it definitely go check that out you episode on that? Yeah he goes he goes deep into like how to how to actually acquire these businesses had a structure. All right. So tyrone. There you go. With any further questions because we chat? John Ruth's asked I have a relatively new podcast just finished recording my fourteenth episode. and I'm interested in starting to reach out to companies who have are in this apprentices who have products that I love that I use in my industry and would benefit from audience. To begin a referral affiliate advertising relationship. But where do I start? How do I get a hold of the right person within that company to begin the relationship is really good questions. Area so Okay. So we're starting to get some momentum with podcasting. And I liked the model of referral and affiliate advertising. Yes I mean quite honestly leveraged. The podcast is a as a pretty simple way like start reaching out some of the product creators say I have a podcast I'm assuming the podcast is tied to what you're promoting as an affiliate. But reach out to the creators by reach out to the raiders I mean like. Do reach out, using whatever email you can find. So if it's their support deaths in a message of support say, Hey, I need to talk to I, want to promote your product. Is there any way I can get so and so on my? Their Creator you're found on the podcast right just start reaching out to the street to the support desks. I know when people request to be on our podcast or when people request us to be on their podcast, the emails usually still make it to us. Because we're happy to go on people's podcasts so. I would. I would reach out to whatever contact email you can find for the creator of the product and say, Hey, I've got a podcast. I'd love to have you on it. That's one easy way. The easy way is. The dream one, hundred strategy we always talk about look for a dream. One hundred won't go for it through here. But essentially just make a list, the people that they connect with and start sharing that with people they're gonNA. Share that around and you know him up on social media too. You'd be surprised how many people check two PM specially on twitter and instagram you know it's like that. So if you're if you're a member of the evergreen profits community, there's actually a video that Joe breaks down exactly how we use the dream one hundred Kuku. All right. To make sure I'm not kidding looking at timing. Okay. Probably Yeah. All right. Julie Hood is our next one. So what traffic source has worked best for you recently, and what are you sending to a blog post with an opt in Orlando page thanks Julius Awesome. Traffic Source Seo has been crushing it for us. Lately. Seo has been really really big for us. We're starting to get a little bit of traction on YouTube Seo really quick I'll the RAPA quick bow around that one The main thing we've been focusing on is what joost to optimize the on page stuff but then also we've been hearing from some SEO folks in our network that contextual. Like content is art like a comprehensive content is really what Google likes to prefer to rank higher up the rankings there. So meaning, Hey, for whatever topic and that keyword you have beefed up enough. So it's answering all these different topics that people are typically searching for around that thing, and you'll likely be able to kind of move up the ranks lot quicker if you just add in some of that content and then what you're using a topic called us. A tool, a tool called US topic used topic and it helps you do that. Yeah. So Seo's our biggest traffic driver behind that. I'd say Google ads and facebook ads are kind of tied. We kind of play around those a lot and then our email list drive a lot of traffic with our email list as well. Cool. Joe Kerns throughout your entrepreneurial journey, what were the biggest quantum leap moments where Your Business Jim forward exponentially. Oh. Yeah. What do you think caused those and in hindsight? Did you miss opportunities to make that joint jump earlier? I'm only referring to revenue are I'm not only referring to revenue growth. This could be anything that felt deeply impact for significant any lasting way TAMMY's her questions. Oh man these are using. These were very fast questions be Matt who's like I mean don't give fast answers but you know these are so good. All right. So we've talked a lot about our quantum leap. Sorry I almost feel if you're listening back to part one, we sort of answer that question like literally what part one is is like these are all the biggest quantum leap jumps in our business. Perfect. So Joe not competent of this answer, but I think that's going to actually answer it way more. So yeah, we have. We have about an hour and twenty minute answer for you. Yeah. You'll like that. So check out this previous episode of. Nigel. Asked best way to recover the cost of paid traffic. Okay. Make more money than it costs to drive the traffic. So it's typically yeah. have some really cool content that people want some something that people want and you have a good relationship and then Rico near have no brainer product that probably is like what the the it makes enough money to cut all the costs of. I mean I I. I am not a huge fan of the term but the trip wire concept. That is kind of designed to liquidate your ad costs. If you can put a very low barrier to entry offer in front of somebody that's like ten dollars is. Right and you can get your cost per aquisition below ten dollars you're generating for free or even possibly profit leads. It's just a matter of getting the right combination of offer and copy and landing page and keyword targeting like. Sort of brought answer to that question. But you know at the end of the day, think of something that's sort of a low barrier entry way to get people on your list, and then you can have upsells to actually maximize maximize profits and things like that but can also. Shipping. Stuff, frigging. Still. Kicked by the yeah I mean there's you. Can you give the probably all sorts of recovering the Kospi traffic I mean like sometimes it doesn't have to be directly through the same funnel. Maybe it's like something else that supplements that kind of Ad Spin. So you just applying revenue from one place and your business to another WHO's to say that it all has to happen in the same funnel I'll have this like funnel locking mentality you know. So maybe there's a lateral way to. Pay For paid traffic if you dislike bring on one more client, let's say, yeah, you know what I mean like it could be a total legion play where allows you to actually like maybe pay for better leads that will pay for bigger price shit. Later on that, you don't have to worry about discovering traffic. Oh No, you just made a shit ton of profit. Yeah Well, you know to be totally honest most of our ads lose money like we as they probably should because if. The targeting and all that. Yeah. Most of our ads lose money day one that they're being run. Right. So we're we're bringing people onto our list, and for the most part we're bringing them on our list by just giving away free content. Yes. There's an upsell after they opt in, but not a huge percentage take it. We usually make that sale. You know two weeks later, and then we're sprinkling some affiliate offers. So we're actually recouping some of our money on some of these affiliate offers it all comes back to us we. Used a tool called wicked reports and we found that you know for every person that we put on our list we make like I don't remember what the number was like two hundred dollars per person that we put on our list. So we knew that shit if we can drive traffic and get leads for under two hundred bucks according to reports, we make at least two hundred bucks purpose we put on our list it may not happen the same day we drive the traffic it may happen a week later weekly a month later but. On average. That's how profitable we are per person put on our list. So you know your numbers in that's not a reverse engineer go. All right. Tristen Bailey ass. When you want more consist sales is the way win you want more consistent sales. is the first thing to do to hire more staff or salesperson via. I don't know if I'm the best person to answer this question, I'm more staff salesperson or va I mean the in my mind the first person to hire for I think it's going to be different for everybody well, probably yeah basically I think what he's asking is once you start making money, what's what's your first higher? Yeah I got you I got you and I think it's really going to be different for every person it's like it's almost Like what things in your business do you want to be doing right for me the first hire? I've always made every single business I've had along the line. The first hires always been customer support person because you don't WanNa. Do I don't I don't like seeing the negative sides of the business I want our support person to provide me with feedback they're hearing but I don't WanNa. See the like use scam artist, shit head emails like which gets. I see those I don't run it but I definitely see some. We those very no. Really. Rare and and they're all lying anyway. So there are the real scammer. Exactly. So the I would say think about what you were saying I would it's going to depend on the motivation of your business like if you want more revenue for some reason because you're GonNa go apply that revenue somewhere else or whatever like cool. But in late may be just want to have more profits in your company. So it doesn't mean that you need to necessarily more sale or like more staff, but be more lean with how your revenue machine is running. I feel. Like this is a question that the answers very individualized business. Yeah Right. It's like it's almost like whatever task is the most either monotonous or one that messes up your head space the most that's probably the one aged. Yeah. Katie go. All Right Gregg. These are awesome. I think, I have a feeling because I think we have. Time for like four four. Okay. Let's just. Right Bruce Brodine. Hey. Buddy. Bruce Awesome he's been a longtime already said, he says print newsletter production. So that's the kind of question. Any time win the USPS is having such historic struggles and the inflow of physical mail going into people's mailboxes. Continues to drop. It is a great time to incorporate physical newsletter into marketing plans and garnish attention. Agree. It would be helpful to help our to have you share your understanding of the Gore model as you have known. So many of the key players there recently, and then your experience over the last few years with the Evergreen profits newsletter. A breakdown of the production process and cost would be extremely beneficial and powerful. Please thank you both. Who that actually would be an awesome episode I think Matt. I mean the so we didn't episode. It was a therapy session that we recorded in an airport and I know we looked very awkward and because we're seeing an airport recording a podcast. We actually talked about the Agora model because we just flown home from being in. Hanging out with the Agora people and on our stopover we recorded. In O'hare airport we Yeah because we're going from Orlando to Chicago to Saint Anyway, you know hair airport. We recorded an episode where we actually talked about what we learned about a Gora and you. Yeah. I would say that's probably the best place to go for that the Gora Model. For you'll break. We'll say one thing that I do remember about the Agora model is they have this the the model for their newsletters is they don't go print until they had something like ten thousand I don't remember the exact number but like until they have ten thousand subscribers on a specific newsletter, they keep digital once it passes a certain threshold only then do they switch it to print which we went print from day one. But, I do I do remember that aspect of their minds but we do have that episode that goes deeper into it. Yeah and that's actually a good distinction. They go digital I we chose to not to they go after certain target number I, mean they they have their systems dialed in. I mean. That's very obvious. So. But yes. So they know there's probably to break even point where okay cool now switching paid, and then you're going to do all this other things too. So their newsletters kind of their quote unquote trip wire right newsletter is all sort of lowest barrier to entry offer your bigger. There's a ton of other up cells that they always do in the mix once you get on the newsletter so. In terms of US getting delivered mail, and all that I don't know how that's going to affect us. I got actually newsletter yesterday in the exciting this month. Yeah. It came to us our production team is McManus So I mean that's not into a few roadblocks since Cova there's a few countries so like everybody like in most countries should be no interruption in the newsletter there was two or three countries. I can't remember exactly which ones they were and India was one of them but they were basically blocking mail from the US into those countries someone somewhere in Africa it's so we we haven't handful of customers that were actually holding their newsletters until those lifts. Get lifted or till those blocks deliver them In fact last I heard though actually got an email from holly over at McManus just earlier this week saying that like all those things have been lifted. So everybody who is waiting for newsletters actually should have them. Now we get good be Bruce Ft. Yeah, it's GonNa, take a while to break down the whole production process and all that stuff It's so. Quick rundown. Here's here's kind of what happens with the the newsletter breakdown. So we have Su who takes the notes on every single episode Then my wife Alana actually reviews the notes very episode and sort of checks for grammar typos just second pair of eyes on them and then and then we can pile all the notes. This is typically me I'll take basically all the notes from one episode compile them into a Google Doc. And then I'll take that Google DOC has a PDF I sent it to. And then I also sent an exported list of all of our customers to McManus and that's pretty much the whole process they take care of the rest from there I pdf. Essentially in excel file of like here's everybody that needs to go to. Yeah, and that's that's the news. Yeah, and you can get a quote from them on whatever your newsletter looks like. So that's where your costs will come from, and obviously whatever people are involved in the cost is obviously is built on volume the size of the newsletter type of paper color or black. So there's so many variables for ost but Yeah that's cool. That's how the process works already Sam Sanam is asking but the. DRA. Yes. Yes. I am horrible names. I don't know if I'm pronouncing. I don't have anybody to tell me. All right. If you had to start over from scratch and didn't know anyone what would be your fast path to financial independence. In, didn't know anyone didn't know anyone that'd be the hardest part about it. Obviously. I would start to know people quickly because it's completely about who you know show at one hundred percent I would. What I would do is actually probably while on it's. It's not. You didn't forget what you know is just had to start from scratch. I would start doing deals man I would start do doing deals with people that I would learn to know you know maybe going their podcast or like you just ideals though So I don't have connections or read right now. So I would probably do something like Jaber him style thing where see, hey, here's a company like he has this example of. Like kitchen remodel companies. All right. You have a kitchen remodel company Well, when someone hires that company, the homeowners, GonNa probably want some other stuff down around the house to like their yard, their patio maybe some furniture other things to keep up with that cool new kitchen that they have. So what J. would do and I think he has done is go to that company for the kitchen remodel and ask him if he can get. Their leads and basically what he's going to do is go hit up a yard company Furniture Company and Pool Company and whatever and frigging start doing deals and say like, Hey, you know if you sell a kitchen remodel, you know you start kind of basically getting the referral fee from those connections of any deals between the two companies in Kenneth Starr being a broker more or less. So I would start doing deals with other people's lead flow. Like he always says what get access and access our assets and access said, the assets there would be leads. Now you're getting access to them, and all you're doing is just paren- him up with another like possible vendor. Yeah, and then you're taking a piece, I think I think that'd be a good way to go I think alternatively I think I've thought about this quite a bit. If I was completely starting from scratch I would probably Use My skill sets assuming I have the skill sets today. I would probably go freelance for some people to begin to get my foot in the door to get to know some people I'd go freelance and build some like funnels in landing pages, and maybe help some people with ads and sort of use my existing skill set and sell them as services to other people, and that would be my foot in the door and I would. Frequent a right. I would start a podcast from day one and start sort of. Verbally blogging about my experiences, and then as I get to know more people I'd start inviting my by connections onto the podcast I'd start interviewing them all the while. I'm making my money by doing freelance gigs and just like you know building my connections by helping other companies that's probably more my path that I could see starting from. I could see getting to like more of the deal making stuff but you know A. Have really no network in the beginning that's probably where I would start. Yeah. I would go probably cold to people. Yeah. Like an because I'll be like. All right. I don't want Dick around. Just jump to and work some stuff but I liked the idea of, yes. Starting podcast to be a no brainer because once you know how to do it and you know how to create like dream one hundred list and to figure out how to identify the movers and shakers to network with invite him on your show. But then buddy buddy up with them and give value value. You can quickly create really good business off that for sure very fast. Your Moss to Moss. Okay Claire Maxwell amax field ask what is the optimum times he should pose per week post every week is it lead twice daily to four to five days per week or have you found a magic magic combination as worked in? Really unique. Host Anna Nick. Of Posting, referring to yeah, I mean, I'm assuming blogging podcasting just like putting content out every is it daily twice daily to? I mean. I'm sure there's some people out there that are like paying attention to those metrics and saying Tuesdays and yeah I don't have a good answer to Thursdays are the best but like we don't really. So what I do know is when we email our list, we have days that are more responsive than days like typically Fridays and Saturdays aren't great when we email our list for whatever reason Sundays we started to get a little bit better response from our email list seems like people are started like ease back into allegations, their computer on Sundays or something, and then Mondays through Thursday Monday through Thursday we. Gradually see like a rise in response throughout the week that's just looking at our numbers from when we email our list as far as the like we picked Tuesday and Thursday for our podcast just sort of arbitrarily right. We really did we're releasing them on Wednesdays and we're like, well, let's up to two a week and so we just like split it we're like, okay Tuesday, Thursday that and it was pretty arbitrary and we've never really gotten too hung up on like should we optimize the day of the week that they're released so I don't know I guess I guess that's just an experimental thing just. Put content out every day for a while or or sort of rotate through days like one week maybe released Tuesday. Thursday next week Monday. Wednesday Friday start like rotating through different days each week and and just kind of keep an eye on when you see trends because different industries are going to be different right some some some businesses you're working through the weekend. Your have days off during the week and those people in those industries are might be at the computer more on the weekends than people in other industries. So I think he really got us work that out with with your audience a little bit by just kind of putting contin out there and seeing which days seem to get the most engagement in the I would say the very first thing to do is don't over commit. Done over commit to posting too much best slow like you wanted to be consistent and have to start with one per week like if you're talking podcasting, don't jump to two a week 'cause you know it can get crazy quickly if. You haven't figured out if you can handle wonder week yet. All Right Caleb. Last question actually, that will be able to do today What's the fastest path kind of like by the way the AMA stuff if people dig it maybe right in and. Let us know facebook page are. So what's the fastest path to cash with creating content slash affiliates site? I'm looking at launching a couple of content sites in the next few months that will generate revenue through affiliate links and eventually my own products based on why the audiences are what the audience is looking for him assuming. FAST PAT to cash. Content. Acquiring site that's already making money this way or having traffic. was asking earlier I would probably do that Yeah I would do that way. Call definitely gotta get going. Other answers Yeah. So don't get distracted so. Yeah. So the fastest path, the cash you know we we have a couple actually really good episodes on this with I feel like it's a cop out to point people to other episodes but we have an episode where we we talked to. Steven as. This. Actually. A couple of them by the time. No. Not yet. There's another one coming out with him soon So Stephen at X.. Timid, Steven Steven. So, we've got one with him where we talk about that, and then we've got one with Mark Webster the Authority Hacker. Yes and we got one with him. That just came out where we talk about creating affiliate sites, and those are really the models that were falling with the affiliates site We're we're just trying to make comprehensive content we're on whatever affiliate product promote. We want to be the biggest resource for that thing like if like if you look at our article about snape on our blog, it's the most comprehensive article around snape. That's probably on the Internet outside like snappers help docs right and Google is rewarding us by putting us at the top because people click on our article they're on there for a long time there's A lot of content there but it also answer like every possible question you can think of around that specific product you look at thrive cart. The way we're promoting thrive card. We built a whole damn blog around one single product over it get thrived cart dot com. So every piece of content that we release is about that one tool and overtime the each of those pieces of content starts to rank starts to rake starts to rank, and next thing we know it's like we own Google for a whole bunch of long tail thrive cart keywords, and that's how we became thrive carts number one affiliate So you know. Per, content on whatever you're promoting, just go as deep as humanly possible with the content in Caleb does that too I know in hip daddy's you create some frigging really good posts over there. So kick start with some facebook ads Not near the CBD's space. Here in the East Bay. So maybe don't kick start with. That's what I would do other though is is focused on comprehensive content and adding value other people's sites where you can then link back forums and blogs and stuff like that. DIG It. Cool. Well, that was a lot of questions in I. Think we covered a lot they're. Big Part three hundred episode and it was good of now finishing part to you, my brain is numb. Yes I can tell. Your brains always made my brain out wakes up. You a weird. Because I work, it's just always numb I to say you. Cool. Well I. Think this is agree. Ama and I think it'd be fun to do it again to I don't know how the not GonNa look on this. Should be interesting. Yeah maybe quick. Yeah. I don't know maybe some ideas for. It could be like little quick mini cliff notes from each answer I guess senator all these questions to maybe she could just make a dock with the questions and then summariser answering the question real quick. That's actually one. Okay. Cool. Yeah. So then everyone who asks the question can get a little chat out to their name and especially Dan Ryan I mean, you know his questions you can't delete Dan Ryan. X amount permanently. All right. Thank you everyone. Okay. Bye Bye. Hey Hey hey, thank you for listening to that episode. This is Ju- fear Sure. 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CBS 2 News AM News Update 09-22-20

"From the CBS newsroom. I'm Ryan. Baker with your Tuesday morning headlines Prosecutors want an expert to win before any charges are filed in the Kenosha police shooting of Jacob Blake last month a police officer shot Blake seven times in the back former Madison Wisconsin. Police Chief Noble Ray will serve as a consultant. He's an expert in the use of force the man notice Chicago's dread head cowboy is in police custody this morning it comes after he took his. Horse on a bizarre ride down the Dan Ryan during rush hour traffic Monday afternoon claiming it was a kids lives matter protest. The horse was taken to Animal Care and control former bears defensive coordinator Vic Fangio was among the three NFL head coaches find one hundred grand each for not wearing masks on the sidelines. This past Sunday. Their teams were also docked at additional two hundred and fifty K. for a total of over a million dollars in fines. It won't feel to autumnal on the first official day of fall. It'll be warm and sunny with a high around eighty stay up-to-date on the Chicago Ephron. Stream News on CBS in Chicago I'm Ryan. Baker.

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LeBron 4.0, Miamis Herro Complex, Harden for Embiid (?) Plus Week 3 NFL Picks with Ryen Russillo

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LeBron 4.0, Miamis Herro Complex, Harden for Embiid (?) Plus Week 3 NFL Picks with Ryen Russillo

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You can also listen to me and the second half of the RAN Russillo podcast geoff permanent who really good Lakers book about the ninety six to over four Lakers and we talked about shack and Kobe, and a whole bunch of other things you can listen both those coming up. Russillo. Thursday nights were even doing this for the next few weeks. Tonight where it'd be talking about Nuggets Lakers got a little. Little Football Tonight Florida battle. Whether. The Celtics are dead or alive a whole lot more. That's all coming up I our friends from Pearl Jam. All Right? This about eight, forty, five Pacific time Thursday night coming up the big game. Russillo I can't believe it. Miami beating. Jacksonville like that. I did just didn't see it coming shocking. Ryan Fitzpatrick everybody counts this guy add and just every time. Now, he's easing credible. He's he's like that buddy that no one likes and then all of a sudden like I've got courtside seats to the celts. And you're like, you know what? Let's keep murph around a little bit. Well. This is got to answer the age old question will basketball ever be football on the ratings 'cause we had just a puget football game going head to head against a pretty pivotal. Western Conference. Basketball game. And, one of the football rating will outrank the basketball by like what three times as much. Yeah. Those are those numbers always blow me away. They're always like a nice little reminder ghetto don't don't get too carried away but you know look it's not like we don't talk football the time but whatever, yeah, what we're not GonNa talk about that game we're going to talk about the Lakers who are now. One win away. From the NBA Finals, this is a weird game. They set the tone. They almost unprecedented I can't remember seeing this where a team openly complained. About how there superstar in this case? Lebron. Was being treated by the referees. This whole thing goes out and it becomes a plot and as soon as I saw it, I text her like, oh well, we know what we're in for tonight and then the game happens they edge out Denver and him and Davis shoot a combined twenty eight free throws and I just feel bad for Denver because I really admire that team and ego no game my and you're. Like. Wow. They're really going to have to go all out to win this game because they're not going to get calls and they didn't okay. But did you think first of all I don't think it's the only time we've ever heard I think there's been plenty of playoff series where the coach tries to plant that seed publicly by complaining Jackson, used to do it all the time so. That there and the other part like Vogel's quotes. The funniest part is we were texting back and forth because I went on with cowherd and I was like looking it up and I'm going you know what? This article there was an article written about this Vogel's quotes are exactly the same thing where he goes yeah it's getting Lebron and has many free throws just answering your questions. So I'm not saying anything he was early like I. Don't find me don't find me because the numbers show that usage rate, the same drives, the same district and the hoop, the same and Lebron's just about to he throws less per game. than he was last year and I didn't feel like he wasn't getting a ton of calls and I, I'll be honest. I don't know if I'm teeing you up here I don't feel like after this game, the officials decided this by any means it was rebounding because the rebounding was insanely going the other way in game three Denver rebounded them what forty four to twenty, five in game three and barely held on their. Yeah I mean Yokich didn't play well that's why Denver loss. I've thought they had a couple of chances to climb in there is that huge call Murray had murray whose great tonight Greg drive where he had Lebron on his hip basically Lebron them they call it and then it comes back down and that was basically you know I think that would have cut it to to add murray went nuts right away and then they're showing going nuts he goes nuts on everyone every reggie they're showing the replay Reggie builders like great defense by Lebron Watch that was a foul. Tracks, but you know this is this is the respect you get when you're one of the three best players ever when you have the veteran superstar team and guess what if your Denver you gotta? You GotTa count for that they just didn't play well enough. They're not getting enough from Yokich in this series. And I don't even I don't even feel like L. A.'s necessarily locking down I. think he looks a little bit out of sorts. I definitely thought he looked at his sorts the other night what are you seeing from him? Hey. I couldn't stand white and game three even made a public statement about it. He was terrific in the Great early in this one because I felt like his energy was kind of fake energy in game three it's like. Well, it's cool. You're running around and you're you're waving your arms and you're talking Shit and the Batman thing definitely annoyed me because I'm like look when you're Dwight's level now it's Yokich like you're not allowed to do that anymore you just can't can't do that. Even Vogel I mean that was part of the story line of game forward they were like, Vogel said Hey, why don't we tone it down a little bit and it worked because he played great defense and I think it just gave them another look and Yokich. You're right. Though the hard part is when he picks up that fourth foul and he's out at eight o six in the fourth quarter and the Lakers are in the bonus he comes back in at five forty six he took one shot one real game shot from five forty, six to the close game before a heave three that's the game. Well, he also in this series, he's had at least four thousand is last five playoff games probably more than that. He's kind of lingering around foul trouble. It's always kind of. Looming like an Anvil over whatever Yokich playoff game you're watching and I do think at least that might be part of the reason he was in his own head a little bit. He's certainly not the guy from last series. The guy from last series were compared to the all time playoff grades and the reality is they're not going to beat the. Lakers. Unless he's on par with Davis and Lebron, he just hasn't been have you dropped him behind hero then for your guys start franchise with number three, number four I just I just edged heroic above Bill Russell last night I redid my pyramid. Then, Hero. Those two now, but it's it's a bummer because I do think. This should be a good match up for Yokich like you know Dwight spent super physical. I think I think the refs have allowed people to be physical with Yokich and I think it's taken them out of his game a little bit and actually always thought he kind of liked that when when teams are trying to bang them around. But this time like he missed that little bunny member that late in the game when he had a big Morris, he took Morristown. He just missed that little four foot jump Hook that he makes ninety nine times out of one hundred. He just wasn't good enough. You could counter-argument could be. DENVER, has the Lakers right where they wanted that they're down three one. This is Kinda deep down what they want it now now they can. They can do what they do. Enough I. You know. UTAH. Was was not a great basketball team. They played great basketball for three games The clippers I thought were arrogant all year which was hard to understand and I'll I'll give you this. The Lakers are just as arrogant as the clippers are. And you could see in those Houston Games it'd be like I you WanNa. Be these guys now. Okay. Fine and they will on the fourth quarter member that one fourth quarter of the almost pissed away like a twenty point lead and it seemed unfathomable that you're like wait this Houston actually have a chance to steal this one. And I. Don't know if it's the bubble I don't know if it's not having that villain this season for the first time in a long time I mean it feels like the first time in a decade. You don't have that one team that everybody's getting for where it's felt like both L. A. teams and clearly ones at home watching if they're even watching but I think the Lakers are. I could totally see a mailing it in game five. I mean, they basically did in game three right and then they tried to catch up in the second half and. Tried to steal it lay. But yeah, you're right the other problem for them as their role players. You know I mean we're talking Denver. I'm talking Lakers like, oh You the guys who are out there and crunch time in this game. They caldwell-pope like taking shots with with two minutes left in Rondo who you know sometimes won't really play that much and then other times is finishing entire fourth quarters I. It's just been kind of Russian roulette with their role guys, and it just doesn't matter because the tandem may have is a historically great tan them. But I do wonder if you can get through four rounds of this where just night tonight having no idea what you're getting from the through twelve guys we know if they don't win it now up three one I get through Denver I. Know We're going to talk a lot of Miami. So I WANNA get too far ahead of ourselves but at Miami gets out of the East which we expect, there are different opponent than a forty, nine, fifty wind project team. They're different whatever it is right now I don't think they're any kind of pushover whatsoever. They're real challenge. So if Lakers to lose in the finals, that's the thing that we point to but it Kinda reminds where we do the NFL stuff where it's like week eight week nine and we go man, all the contenders are flawed he like you know what? That's the point that's kind of the point and yes, their flaws their lack adept. Foot when you watch Anthony Davis to that kind of star Lebron probably underwhelming for the most part. But still those nine points in the fourth quarter and he hit most of his free throws, which is something I expect to happen all the time. They couldn't do anything with. Anthony. Davis. Like he should own millsap owned early they got him out of there. They switched their whole defensive rotation around and yeah I'm with you like Caruso. Kinda Fun, but you don't count on it. Pope missed a huge three again you know he had that three that could've tied at one Oh three apiece in game three and that was a huge spot. You know it's different when you're down twenty and taking those and I can't tell you like I feel like. The the Morris twins want nothing to do with the basketball in the big spot and marquee through that horrible entry pass that elected like screwed up eighty. Then he gets the offensive foul by just grabbing somebody and they're up I think one. Oh, nine, one, zero, two that's a massive possession. It's under two minutes. You score a bucket there the game's over he he gets a charger offense, not a charge but offensive foul on that screen, and then he fouls immediately by sticking his leg out and it's Murray with free throws and you're going this game was over with the. Bucket and then it ends up another two minutes ago and back and forth possession. So I don't blame frankly listen to different things but he got him fouling out was probably good yet at some point wasn't Morris Pope and Rondo were the three four five that were out there. Oh Yeah. No, that's that was the real unit yet because he's not putting coups mouth there it's I I'd be hard pressed to find a worse three, four, five in crunch time then Rondos. Pretty good tonight and I think rondos figured out how to pick his spots and do Rondo stuff and Just. Kind of embraces in Toronto. You know as as a long Rondo Fan I've been enjoying it it. It's been the one redeeming thing for me with this with this whole Lakers situation is. I. Like seeing Rondo Dorando things at big games and you know that rebound he got near the end where he just comes flying in like he just has a knack for doing that stuff. It's fun. Yeah I thought the best play. There's a bunch of stuff you can pick from here but when Lebron made a really good defensive play and then ran the length of the core and Rondo waited a lesser point guard doesn't even register that rondos coming Lebron's come in full steam and millsaps even bother contesting it and it was a layup because Lebron ran the full length of the court and he was behind all other nine. Players in. Rondo. Kept him in the play and that was pretty cool when I noticed Lebron these playoffs I think he's become so hard to officiate game to game and that can kinda get why he would come out of a game where you only had a couple of free throws like what the Fuck I. I'm forcing contact every time it reminds me of the the point shack to like twenty. Twenty years ago near the end when when he wasn't like MVP shack but maybe two years later Oh to where. The rest kind of didn't know what to do and remember that Sacramento series windows divided and see web and Scott powered and. Certain Games. They those guys were just allowed mall shack and then they had the famous game six shack shot one, hundred thirty free throws and it just kind of from game to came seem to change and the thing with the Brian. He's so freaking strong now. He doesn't totally have the same quickness to beat somebody off the dribble that he did when he is at Miami, right? He's at a different stage of his career. But he can still get a half step on them. And what he does over and over again is Kinda barrels into the guy as he has the half step and then the ref over and over again has to decide like what is that? What do I do because there's contact the guys moving Lebron's initiating all the contact. What's the call like even had the review today and when when I saw alive I was I got Lebron charge and then they show the replay for five angles actually grants moving. But at the same time, he should be allowed to defend what he moves. Right? You're talking about that grant blocking for Denver Bench, right? Yeah. Yeah. Because I was a huge spot at that time I don't know what you're supposed to do with those calls anymore because I don't like charges but then again, it's like wait I can't stand here and move my feet to try to defend you and then if you dribble into me that gets we've done this before but it's it's a mess it's collect I don't know I don't know we've had this conversation. Because maybe. Brian is he's so strong. That and he's so smart and he's just figured out like I'm just GonNa, do this and they're not gonNA know how to call it and I'm going to get the I'm going to get the coin toss most of the time because I'm Lebron James I don't know what you're supposed to do. If you're the defender I mean you could try may be guarding him with a smaller player. You know like the the Toronto strategy like the lower revenge wheat just go away smaller and have the guy get underneath them and maybe he'll. Yes like that. But I don't really know how you stop and when we get to this next round Miami is GonNa have crowder they're gonNA have Dowa Jimmy. Butler. They're gonNA have all these people, but it's going to be the same thing. It's going to be this conundrum game after game of is this a foul as this? Not when he's driving the basket? Okay I think it's a great cop on shack. Absolutely because you know the thing was shack as well you could just call it a foul every time, but then also be like, okay, I mean shack played today I don't know how that efficient because everybody would just fall down the entire time whether they call it. You'd like. So what are you GonNa do just give them give them the charge this guy's going to have to retire. I have I have thought it's a question. We know that Lebron. Is Peak theatrics when he's exaggerating kind of like a contact like the Murray Bowen Game Three he doesn't do it as much now because it just takes a lot of time and energy to just flail all over the place but I actually don't think he's a flopper. Driver now agree with you. Do you think because guys like Donncha which are selling it the whole dribble first of all the head thing that drives Harden. Who doesn't flop as much as selling it all the time and there's a bunch of guys straight up flop. Do you think that that has to do with some of the problems were reps are almost like well, he's still upright so I can't give him every call. I think this shack thing is a really good comparison for this reason it's impossible to figure out what the contact was when he so strong, it's almost like this moving oak. Tree. You know and when somebody bounces into him and he just keeps going completely undaunted and then the other guys almost making it seem like it was more of a found. The feels like something happened but can't call a charge because the guys moving I think to me it's more testament to. Just incredible physical specimen. He is like he can go into people and really ricochet off them. You know and and just continued to go until they blow whistle or gets a lap or whatever. This is something that started with him. I really feel like those last two Cleveland years where it just seemed like he was stronger. Remember that that that two thousand, eighteen gold stay finals in the in that amazing game he had when he was just like he was overpowering physically in a way that I'd never seen with him and I think he's been able to do that over and over again and grant I think then a pretty good job at least trying to be active stay in front of him stuff like that but also at the. Same time doesn't really have a chance of Lebron wants to get to the rim like he's just getting. He's getting near the Rim and he's initiating contact, and then it's up to the refs. The I remember making that mistake a few times when look at different series and be like, Oh, well, they have Demari Carol and they have all these bodies in it. None of it matters it doesn't matter because he's just. The way I use his shoulders and the way we talk about him spacing his dribble away from you in the fact that you combine his shoulders with his hands like lebrons actually still bigger and you know it's it's not that much different. Yet his moves are still probably more dynamic in a much older age because when it's right I was like, oh, I see slowing down I was looking at some of the stuff and then I went and looked I go a lot of these fourth quarters it Kinda, been decided. So if you just go straight fourth quarter numbers for Lebron, they're not gonNA. Look Great. The free throw percentage always goes down. Is because he's tiring because he's older and then he had a baseline spin dunk on Tori Craig in game three that was just Like well, that pretty good and it's not just one play and there are a couple of moments like when he was short on a few jumpers like he didn't have the touch tonight at all, he had that one play re kind of drove at Yokich. Yokich, just kinda sagged any Erica seventeen footer clean wide open. It wasn't even close. So the stat line being near a triple double might be a little misleading because it really Davis was carrying them tonight. But if you're going to score nine points in the fourth quarter close playoff game to go three one then said a to i. mean those are still points so and you're chuckling up fast you know in my book I wrote about the. The four different Jordan's. When I wrote the big chapter about him, how he hit these four different versions of himself. And I think with Lebron. He had that kind of first version of himself. which I would say really lasted all basically the entire Cleveland experience rate. He just he matured physically but I I would say his whole Cleveland even though we ended up winning to MVP's I still feel like that was like one point Oh Lebron and even that first Miami. season. Then two, thousand, twelve, and thirteen and fourteen in Miami was probably two point. Oh. and. Then those first couple. CLEVELAND. Seasons when he came back, I would say his three point now and now we're kind of moving into the four point -O version of he's basically Karl Malone who could dribble? And he's just as specimen who's also the smartest guy in the league who can dissect everything who always makes the right decision. But, there's an overpowering piece to it that has kind of made up for the loss of athleticism where he can't just fly by dudes like he used to eight years ago but he's added this shack piece. Yeah the Carl Malone thinks good. But I, think you would agree to add beyond the dribbling that he's said like Carmello could never set up your offense running that. Drives Yeah I'm talking right going to the basket 'cause I was felt like Karl Malone same thing especially that Utah version. He he was so strong by the bid nineties that if he was just headed to the rim where we're going to do. He needs to gather their you're feeling about, did those the two ABS? Lebron obviously has so many other things that he brings him if he goes through Lebron five point Oh does that and the debate that he's better than Mj. Yeah I don't know what finally would be I guess five point Oh would just be him as just three point shooter. He turns into Dunkin Robinson randomly. Everyone's like wow. The brand lost forty pounds that is fifty percent three point shooter look five zero. Here it is. If you were ever going to say like when he gets draft you go Kay is the chose one. I remember watching that Sacramento game and you know we had like the first guy that ever wrote anything about him. When I was on in Boston, we ordered the Jersey like I just couldn't wait to watch him and then to say okay when you`re GOING TO BE Twenty Twenty And he's going to be this close to another ring and it's just different because back then we didn't understand players move around and do all this different stuff like he's going to be on the Lakers have won a ring in Miami and Cleveland, and he's going to be still arguably the best player in the League and yeah they're going to be moments where is a little slower like it just seems impossible it seems impossible to also think of the League without him and that. Were probably a couple years away from you know TV shows going this guy needs retire which I don't like when shows due to anybody like if you WanNa keep playing sports as long as you possibly can keep doing it but he's going to be held to a weird standard because it's going to be weird to see a version of him. That's actually hurting a team which still seems like again impossible to say out loud but it's going to happen. You mean like drew brees. This breeze stuff is a little early. Can we wait until Michael Thomas Back? Can you a pass or arts? Those numbers weren't great down the field I got. Are Mad Greenie was saying like bench him for Jameis Winston. To Green Green is open. He had james replacing breeze and I. Think he said it's time to get Jalen hurts some snaps behind center for Carson, Wentz I was like Jeez, I don't think his coffee kicked in yet. We'd be by, would it be back for the green thing yet the Lebron thing. You know it's all shaping up for any certainly band. You know even this week with the brand Taylor thing and and the verdict coming out and Lebron comes out in a big way, and he's not only the face of the week. He's the most important voice. He's still the best part in the bubble. You know and it is it's amazing. You know he's drafted in two thousand three. I just got. La In two thousand, three I. don't even think I had a dog. Admit I dog at that point? It's so long ago you think about like so long go it's just an incredible amount of time like two thousand, three people who were born there now seniors in high school virtual learning. But. the fact you still able to do it at this level. So yes. So when he does stuff like complains about how officiated to and they call it in like part of me is like man you were bothered by this little just like you're. One of the greatest players I've ever seen like I almost like you don't have to do this. You know like you don't need this. You don't need to wind after a recall like year we're always going to remember watching it. We're we have our eternal respect. You don't need to do like this Petty Dumb Shit I dunno by it bothers me because I like them I like watching. The complaining thing I don't know me and you complaining those watchable things we were doing less dance I. Just I can't tell you how much I enjoy just watching everybody played basketball. Now the new thing and I don't know if it's brand new and Lebron did it tonight he drove left and so right to left on your TV screen. He's left side of the. WHO Gets the call in his pissed at the big. Ref. That he got mad at the refugee. He Anyway but guys are mad. The other thing that's happening Marcus smart does this all the time Marcus smart will make the play in like get fouled on the entry or fouled on the pass or something, and then the guy he passes that to get the bucket, he's got the assist and then he's mad and you're like. You guys got the two man. With. 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So you know I said the other day on a podcast that it was all shaping up for Lebron the clippers got knocked out all that stuff and This is the this is now in their hands they have. This two man tandem. That is just GonNa be better than anyone they play whether that's enough to win the finals. They just have the biggest advantage anybody has left. But I was thinking about it. As think about that Paul George quote that we heard about after you and I finished our podcast last night where he's I know I don't feel like it was championship -Buster. Here's the first season for us is thinking like man what would like a terrible thing to say after that is this was totally championship her, but she gets traded hundred draft picks to make this season happen and your favorite to win the title. What are you talking about? So would it be even better to if he opted out next year? It's to Caesar Bus but I was thinking like I have this narrative, my head they banned there were so lucky to escape the clippers but really the reality is the clippers were afraid. Oh, they were weak. They folded I. Think I think this I think Davison Lebron would have beaten this team from what we know now about the clippers and all the stuff that's been trickling out, and it's obviously a team that was not on the same page that resented the Star Treatment for George Quiet del re resented. George seems specifically like Kinda like would've you on wire where are you like the superstar here and it just seemed like that team had real problems and if anything I think it would have been better for the Lakers to play them and beat the shit out of the clippers it would have been like a nicer. Thing for lebrons mantle. Then beating this Denver team that everybody thinks they should be that anyway. Yeah. Because if the clippers mean it's hard to go hey, this is a fraud if they taken care Denver and five. Okay and then not blown leads in the other games and so. I always hesitate a little bit to be like Oh well, they would smash the clippers because, but maybe the clippers would have taken more seriously. You know maybe the clippers would have looked at La and played them differently because they knew it was Lakers like a fight where it's like if you're looking at the opponent and you're actually little scared of him, you just GonNa be tuned up a little bit more. You're GonNa be thinking about all these different things whereas they clearly didn't give any respect to the nuggets after they're up three one. C. C. my argument is they had the fraud inside them. that. To be unleashed, it was in the cage with think he dangling from the outside just. Turn key open door and the fraud was gonNA come out and I think it definitely would have come out against the Lakers it just happened to be Denver that did it but did you see some really good Clippers Lakers games during the regular season where they've it kept you guessing in times even when the Lakers pulled out some of those games you and I did pods where we're going you know what I still of like the feel of where the clippers are at your agree products. So we got to be going to be honest that we can't just sit here and go the clippers lost three and early sucked in the Lakers or the smashed. It wasn't the three was how they rolled over, of course. But. But it was some of the stuff that got exposed as the stage got bigger to the fact that they really rely Lou Williams, and he's honestly one of the worst playoff players of the last twenty-five years. He's just completely abominable like that. If Harrell you know got attacked a certain way, he became unplayable that I'll send you're relying on Zubaydah say I we're talking about the clippers I. I shouldn't have brought it up I. Guess my point is like. I thought this was this bullet dodged. And the reality is I. Think Denver is going to be a lot tougher to put away even though Denver's down three one. I think that teams got a lot of pride I love Murray I think Mary has been one of the big winners I wanted to talk about big winners of the of the bubble later but that Denver's get Denver will not rollover in game five. Do you know by the way. If Denver loses game five and if Miami Knock Boston. This final starts on Wednesday. On now I know that I am I. Am wake up and look at the schedule Type Guy. You're a big thinker, a planner. If there is no, no game seven, the finals we'll start on Wednesday is what I was told. Will you count? This is the seventeenth championship for the Lakers tying your Boston Celtics? No you know the answer that because they can't they're five Minneapolis titles which were not real Lakers titles. It's fucking bullshit. Do There's Oklahoma City get to say we've won one NBA TITLE Oh. Actually. We won the Seattle Supersonics, title? Nineteen. Seventy nine that's our one title. Everybody would be like get the fuck out of here. You didn't win that. That doesn't count for you. So. What are the Lakers get to count the Minneapolis titles. I heard this point up before so I just have. Nobody has sir I just want to by the way the wider like career assist leaders carry though entitles dome. Because I always think that's a little weird when it's a graphic and then all of a sudden, it'd be like the New Orleans Pelicans in, but it was the Charlotte? Hornets and you're like, wait what's going on but I don't like. Pelican I'm confused like that either when you when you switch cities and change their name, your different franchise that's why I think the browns was actually the coolest thing ever 'cause they were like we're keeping it all and everyone's like, honestly you think anybody wanted to be the browns. were. STEP BACK But I Did that. SO MIAMI GETS BY BOSTON. which odds are they will although we'll break it down in his second, not giving up though are you Well no I'm not giving up and I'll I'll go into the reasons why I'm not giving you but if Miami does advance. I don't think they will roll over and I think they're gonNA be a hard team for the Lakers to blabs still the Lakers in the series but I think is there two thousand, four Pistons upset potential yeah. There is and would people be making a mistake thinking that the Lakers were just GonNa, walk the title Yeah 'cause Miami's really good. What impressed me about Miami in this series. There Plano? Well. The really not like look at their stats they they're shooting for three, their thirty, two point, five percent for the series you know they're giving up one, hundred, ten point, three points a game. You, go through their stats. Shraga has played really well, the whole series. So as out of bio and then hero had to really good Games Games three and four. Other that Butler's been fine. crowder in Robinson an Olympic are basically delay now like Robinson can't make anything anymore. They're not even playing Olympic and Chrysler crash back there then became crowder and I think what's interesting and what's a good sign for the Celtics is that this is not the deep nine man Miami team that you just don't know on any given night. Get, you has now six man team. And IGWE DALLO was way more important than game for than I ever expected from somebody who said an ankle injury who's had back spasms and they've really needed him in that game and they needed a performance from hero who had not scored by the twenty two points in a playoff game. Whoever's thirteen points? The regular season he put up thirty seven and they still barely one. So I'm looking at going I actually think, Miami, can play better than this and I'm frustrated that it's three one as a Celtics Fan. This has been about the fourth quarters and it's been about turnovers and yes, some of its zone, but some of it's just stupid stupid basketball. Yeah and it was a carryover from Toronto and if you look at the turnover numbers in the fourth quarter for the series, Miami has nine total turnovers across four fourth quarters. Boston had seven turnovers in game four fourth quarter alone at a bunch of them right out of the gate that set the tone for sloppy basketball they had five turnovers in the fourth quarter of game to Boston's defense is allowing in the fourth quarter in this series against Miami team that you're right isn't exactly shooting the lights out. You're also right the unit is not as deep. As it's supposed to be because you can get really messed up with debt because you're like, Oh, I know that guy that guy had a good game like to me if I'm the Celtics Gimme all the Kendrick Nunn, you can give me like take more shots yet. Bring them in front of crowder. Let's go cry knocking your shot out. Please take. Those Dunkin Robinson like who I love aspects of his game but there's another reason why you're like, okay he's getting attacked. He gets a couple of early fouls because it's happening when two games in this series real like okay. Now, that's messed him up. The problem is for the Celtics and game four tyler hero turn turn into a short wider Kevin Durant. Out of nowhere you're like, okay, thirty seven for this guy I was gonna go Jimmy Chitwood for him. He's just two quick and his his drip Chitwood was just straight up man chitwood would not wear skinny jeans. Did back. Then he just didn't know they were Liebau. Shit Yeah but this this number turnovers part of it and I'm going to ask you kind of like a follow up after this but. The Celtics Defense in the fourth quarter is allowing a hundred and thirty one point eight points per one hundred possessions. That is such. That's an impossible number to be that bad and they they've tried a bunch of different things. We can get out a little bit more, but I mean, how much do you think it's the zone and how much do you think it's just kind of these moments where you look at their ice players to go with the fucker you guys doing. The turnovers, they've sixty three turnovers in four games. That's just appalling. It's almost as forty golfers. Yeah, and really dumb ones to. You know it's wanamaker driving the basket and throwing the guy in the corner but the ball hits the baseline. It's water maker caring. It's Marcus smart just just throwing it right to somebody else. It's hayward in a huge playing game for. When they really need a basket of the probably GONNA lose lofting a pass the tatum and Butler just jumping grabbing it. Thank you goodall tapping out of your hands because you're holding it up there, waiting for him to tap it away from you and so I give credit to the zone in this. Verdict Zone where they have their bigs up top like I love seeing guys try different stuff. But the reason why teams play zone all the time is actually supposed to figure it out. Right. In Boston I don't blame them for not like, Kemba. Having a bad Toronto series when you're going to box in one somebody the right way it's GonNa screw up. You know what I mean like you're not going to go off and they were trying to do almost this kill the. Chop off the head to kill the snake thing with Kemba in the Toronto series. But this Boston series, I'm with you. There's all these moments where you go. That wasn't even special defense. That's you kind of not having a plan and I'm I guess I'm just surprised that this many talented players collectively who were all pretty good. So players who you're just like Hey Boston's right. It's like man they can put out like five guys including Haywar now and get a bucket at the end of the shot clock and they just have so many sloppy turnovers that it's leading to free points the other way. If I said to you before if I said to you before the series. All the shooting numbers are going to be the same. But. Boston's GonNa turn the ball over twenty one more times in the first four games. would. You would you said you'd say they'd be down three one. Yeah if I told you, Miami's to have. Maybe numbers are basically wash all the points are the wash. But Miami has four turnovers. Boston is sixty three and sixty three turnovers of four games. What happened was playing it's the fourth quarter stuff too because you're just doing the other team such favor in. Jimmy Butler their fourth leading score. I know again he's he's had he has stretches and that's why you know as much as. Jimmy Butler love fest and I'm a say this to not knock him although. Dude. When Shows Tyler Heroes High School Jersey and then cj mccollum who liked tweets out thought he was a bad teammate. You're like, Hey, CJ YOU WANNA ask fucking Karl Anthony towns and wicked like and again I was Jimmy side about thinking those guys were soft but I mean just decide to go nuclear. So you get your way out of there during a practice knowing espn was there to cover the whole thing like give me a break. We're here. Here's definitely weren't good teammate. Yeah. It wasn't fun but like do you look back on this series and think this is this massive waste opportunity because I do know I wanNA talk about that because I told you this two weeks ago I am a big. Never think your windows going to be ten years guy with the NBA and I really felt like this for this Boston team. This was an unbelievable chance for them to make the finals and we talked about this even before my Milwaukee got knocked out, I don't know what Phil is going to look like next year I dunno Milwaukee. Next year. I I don't know if the East is going to be much better than it is this year I'm guessing we'll be because Brooklyn's going to be really good to God. Knows who else I know this year that a chance to make the finals. Game One and game two. They threw away they should've at least split those and Miami made every single play Kudos to them. They're smarter team they're mentally tougher, but they pulled out those first two and then yesterday you know the Celtics basically couldn't figure out how to shut down a twenty year old kid. And I just I. He was making really tough shots. I just find it hard to believe. They couldn't come up with a strategy. Oh, man gotta hand it to them like that's crazy to me and I I, I don't understand look Brad Stevens does way more about basketball than I do It's so obvious to me that they should be going small and switching on everything. Sweetie try that everything now I would just do that. That would be my strategy though especially when heroes feeling it like that 'cause I don't WanNa. See Rob Williams again in this series because he does not offend the three point line he comes in Miami just handsome right away right great getting wide open threes. The thing that scared me about yesterday's Miami didn't even sheet that well other than hero. I think they were like thirty percent three but the threes were wide open. I don't think Boston's played good defense in this series I don't think they've played smart to have protected the ball I don't know what happened to tatum in the first half and the second half you turned into, you know Lebron James The two, thousand seven, it's the Pistons. It's it's just really weird because I think they're gonNA. Look back at this series and just be like what happened. How did how did how did we do all that? Dumb Shit for two solid weeks and then Miami's going GonNa look like, yeah we're veteran team were smart were tougher than them. We pulled this out. That's that's what the outcome's GonNa be unless Boston flip it. I know they tried a bunch of different things with Butler. You'd like to try to stop him because it had moments where it didn't work and then they I would think you might see more of helping off eagled. Allah. But then there a perfect play of what this team is and what it's like to have a guy like Bam and it totally looked like the warriors in the beginning with Draymond Green with the lineup, a death, their death line of excuse me. I don't know if that's But trap trap left side Butler Butler throws a Bam Bam. Throws based on IGGY KICKS OUT DRAGO. It was great and you just go. Okay. That's why like can you trap then all right because if you trap and then Bam gets to make the decision for on three. You probably screwed because band could even put it on the floor and finish the whole time so. Even. Though we went in go to a Miami deeper bosses. One through four is probably a little bit better when Tatum, who look we all love but just took a first half off and I'm trying to figure out if he's heard or not, and you're like what's going on is energy to sucked and look he picked it up in the third quarter but you just can't have when you're down to one. You can't play like that and campus having moments to where. You know whether it's the way trap him and I think he just tries hard all the time but but that can be scary when it doesn't go right and I don't really like criticizing anymore because I know at least from toughness and competitive standpoint and carrying point he's GonNa care but they're still going to be a bad three like he had where he trailed transition it was like twenty seconds left in the shock like that's not what we need right now. So my you'll feels like look we both picked Miami beach think before the series. Miami to. I've thought it was close. I thought it was close. I also win game five maybe making a little weird I am wondering. If, like. That thought though. Here's how they win game five. The biggest thing that's changed over the last two weeks is that this is no longer a nine man team. For Miami, it's basically seven, a seven B, seven series now in Boston can win that. I thought Miami's biggest advantage was going to be this depth than you know Olinda coming in the second quarter and scored twelve points and. Kendrick Nunn torching at least one. That's right. Yeah and none of that stuff's happening in Robinson's plant. Awful. He's Robinson is having the weirdest stat series. He's twelve for thirty to feel. He's twelve for thirty one from three. He's taken one to point out for games, which is not the player that he was during the season. Yeah. The one of the things I liked about him was he wasn't like Kyle Korver like he actually could create he would go to the basket and stuff like that, and he's now been pigeonholed as defensive liability who only shoes threes. So they've kinda taken him out. But it's basically banned. They're six and a half for his boss six and a half, and they're six and a half has just been slightly slightly better and then at the end of games thoroughbred play dragon hero together. And for whatever reason I I really am surprised smart can't. Shutdown hero when he gets like that. I would've thought that would have been like a perfect guy for smart the guard and chase around picks and do smart stuff but he hasn't been able to solve it and I don't really know what they are. Answer is at in crunch time against that lineup. I still think with a little underestimating him even though he's I insist in this series for the heat he second rebounds, he's the best assist to turnover ratio. So it's not like he's just gun in threes. He's good on the catch. He's good off the dribble. He's good on the hard cuts. He had a hand off where he was coming around the top where he just looked like he was full speed stopped right up and that was that was. That, those are incredible shots. WanNa hit on smart. Were smarts like I don't have to close out on you yet, and he's like I'll just stick it right in you and I'm like Oh man. So I'd imagine that's the easiest adjustment is that whoever gets him they going to be thinking about him for for two days going got him start treating him like he's Luke Donncha not tyler hair like they really gonNa have to start thinking about him like when this guy's in when he starts feeling it, we have to now change our entire offense. The other problem is that never saw the ban thing dams been awesome in this series he's just a great Basque, those roles they. Beach beats them all the time with it too. He's destroyed Thais like honestly is destroyed him. In the middle a little bit though I think it's just a tough spot but go ahead. Yeah. It's tough to southern step spot. I asked him here stuff, but I want to take a break I. Hey. Let's talk about simply safe. Here's the thing about home security companies most trap with high prices tricky contracts, lousy customer, support. So the might be allowed options out there. That's fine. 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They have been a proud sponsor of this podcast really since we launched in October two thousand, fifteen simplisafe we we just get along I trust these guys head to simplisafe dot com slash bs you get a free hd camera that's for my listeners once again, super-safe to is simplisafe dot com slash bs to make sure they know our show sent you. On the hero thing. I was thinking about this concept of. Every playoffs. There's a young guy who has a moment. And becomes as really important moment. Subs was GONNA call them the Reggie Hammond team for Eddie Murphy and forty-eight hours, Reggie Hammond where it's just kind of he's in the torchy's bar that one scene. And you just come out with like wow that guy's a fucking star as soon as torture scenes over it's like that guy's going to be in my life for awhile. Hero became that guy this year in the playoffs which I think was really unexpected because I made a list actually the last fifteen years of the guys who have had these moments in the playoffs. And he's probably the most unexpected one. You know I think for two thousand and twenty hero and Luca Right Lucas. Other one lucas not a surprise. But you know we're always gonNA. Remember that clippers game and all that stuff and when you think back twenty twenty playoffs, what happened that'd be remember two thousand and nineteen and was Yoga Jan Murray that Combo which I think after that playoffs we were like. Okay, these guys. This is a team two, thousand, eighteen MS tatum. Going into the finals against Cleveland, eastern finals and Donovan Mitchell Beaten Chris Paul. Member that where we're just like. Oh. Those guys. Okay. Donovan, Mitchell so he's going to be a real guy two, thousand seventeen Bradley beal I think was the big winner I couldn't find the two, thousand sixteen but then go and down. I'll just do quickly Butler dame steph curry in two thousand, thirteen hard in two, thousand twelve when he took out the Spurs Paul George that year to Rent Westbrook and eleven Rondo in two, thousand, ten, rose two, thousand, nine, Chris Paul two, thousand, eight, damage, two, thousand, seven, Lebron Oh six, and then a marine weighed in oh five and the reason I have all those guys listed like that is all those guys were like high pedigree lottery is where it would have been you. You wanted to have their basketball card when they came out. We. Expected something good to happen with them. It wasn't shocking right now shocking that Luke did we did the clippers 'cause we'd watched my ear, the hero thing shocking and I think he's here to stay I. Don't think this is a fluke. I really think this guy like this guy is going to be like a multiple time all-star guard. He's kind of perfect for how basketball is played. I always loved him I did not see this coming. Would you trade this year's number one pick for them? No. No you wouldn't. Oh my God. You're kidding I've read much have here than them pick in this draft. Oh No, that's what I mean. Would you trade meaning if you had to pick would you trade if you're the Minnesota Timberwolves Fan Orbit? Right. More picks up just double checking because sometimes people. When I did it for Dunkin Robinson. Not Everybody. Liked it. So I found my scouting report on hero that I wrote before the draft let's say okay Decent frame bad wingspan. Moose. Okay. I think he makes it. I think whether or not. He makes the deal is how his body develops be quick enough to get open off the ball passable on d. he's just this is what I started. So I started with that and I can tell us I keep writing. It's either like it goes in the direction liking player not liking a player he's he's just a smart player that was the Senate's. The way comes the ball cuts off the ball transition drive where we tease the defender to unwanted wide open layup, his cuts, cuts cuts. So I started falling in love with he has all the tricks. Let's get him and he pushes them off, runs his guy in screens I love all of it. He puts on the floor more than you might think he's he's the best off the ball player in the first round. I love the way he repositions behind the line reminds me of clay. He's a small guard or excuse me he's shooting guard that probably be a guy off the bench early that can hit shots and stick around because he's big. Enough. When you put in one of my favorite secret things about him is that rebounds a love that rebound I loved. I. Loved Guards at rebound. He almost had a triple double at one of the Games last week. But yeah, he's just. He was one of the things I love about him he never disappears. There's no like Jeff Green quarter where it's just like where's that guy audience out there he wants like the. Of A wiggins type where you can disappear for fifteen minutes, he's always going to. Touch the ball be involved. Do something hit a three he does he does get scared and. You know he's twenty but tatum's twenty two. I don't think they don't get enough credit for how young he is either like the quality of some of these these dramatic twenty three. The the quality, some of these dudes like by seminar watching the bird imagine that the bird was twenty three when he came in the League. You had like Patrick Ewing was like twenty two these guys these four, your seniors you know they come in as Duncan the four year senior and they come in his finished products. And I think it's so incredible. that. Regardless, of whether, they win the title this year. They're going to be a contender for the next five years and it's going to be more because of hero and be amount of bio like in two thousand and twenty four Jimmy Butler right? Yeah, absolutely I mean. You know to have that kind of game and I try not to ever get to curious like. All right. So if you're GONNA be one of those guys, let's keep seeing it. I Know Van Gundy keeps losing his mind Van Gundy in the cut who keeps getting mad like how is he second team House he second team you're like well over the course of the season at seven. All right. Sorry. Yeah. Exactly book between Bam's development in Tyler's development and drag it. You is now because of a hero and Bam doesn't get enough credit because he still feels like they're steadying force like, okay we have something here we need something you want me to play off the ball I mean God I love guards it can get it on their own but then are totally comfortable playing off the ball. Always done a good guy too. Yeah. But wait he was available before the season and even the first month of the season anybody could add you talked to each yeah. Is it expire contracts? Anybody could have gone after him? And it's just weird. You think like Kendrick none was starting over for most of the year and he was a little banged up and all that stuff. But that was nine was going off to begin with going off right. But the the DRAGOJ resurgence is like a legit resurgence and it started a few months ago. But He he's playing eary's like that two thousand ten spurs series. When remember that when he just destroyed the Spurs, he mentioned for you. Then like a steak and read their heart. Between drug. Hero Yokich. Caruso. The. On in that company okay. All right Donncha which. Is this the best. Time in white basketball history since the plumlee parents met. A. Did you see Heroes Jersey was number one on fanatics today. Yes, I love that. Are you serious? would. He got drafted I. was like Oh my God I go. He should have gone higher just based the way he was dressed by. Do you love that I? Read You my scattering report knowing that if it had said no fucking way this guy sucks I would've never read it. Yeah. There's no way you do it was it was kind of a humble brag I wasn't going to call you out on it should have you should have. Sometimes. You gotta give yourself credit when no one else will. Now that was a good. That was a good scouting report. My here to stay and I think Miami's really good and if they get by Boston, which odds are they will you know they're certainly heavy favorites to advance I think they're going to be a hard team for the Lakers to play. I'm like. Well. My my concern is that they're going to become these sexy zag. People back watch this. Now you're right. Sexy zags have a terrible Texas astro is fucking suck. Yeah but. Tyler hero ask into this WHO's guarding hero and drag in crunch type. In Rondo no Pope Pope Rondo crusoe would be your defensive match-ups their. Bans going to be able to at least make Davis Sweat to get to thirty five points. If on the other and he's GonNa be rolling all the time and trying to get dues foul trouble. If our Miami and that's the finals match I would tell the younger guys on the team be like DM Kuzina all week and say, he should ask for a contract extension. IV Asking Ivy, just trying to get them them off center the entire time you're right because as I've sat here and thought, hey, it's not crazy. It's definitely an accurate it's not crazy but then as it is it crazy to actually go ahead and pick them but I do think a lot of people will end up picking them because of the Laker flaws are you know not enough to get in the way of them coming out of the West at least the Wakefield. Tonight. And what a set up for Paraly- to where. You have Eat out you you. You Dispatch Boston the team that haunted him and stop the nineteen eighty-four title from him and all that stuff. and. Then you go to the finals. Lebron the guy who ditched him two, thousand fourteen. The Lakers the team he used to be the man for who thought that could replace it with Mike Dunleavy after he left. And yeah. I mean I guarantee he would love not that he's playing but this he has to be peeing himself he's got to be so excited that's pretty good. That's why you when you used to write that would have been a good article. Well member seriously though the to just map it out that way because the revenge against Lebron by the way which was. Nasty. He basically scolded him. Out of there and he could just be like there's there's part of me that understands Riley's being upset me like, Hey, if you're gonNA bail on the franchise a little heads up, it's like, okay. But that's the World Lebron, but it was better. To know was better than that because when he knew he might be leaving. He gave that press conference I did a little book a basketball thing about it. When he did that whole long speech and it was basically directed at Lebron you like he's basically like this is hard. You're not supposed to win every year. Only one team can win every year. The whole point is you stay together and you try to overcome adversity. You don't take the easy way out, and apparently the brown was really pissed after did that fuck this guy because? It was old and his is behind a table who liked didn't open up all that often deciding to school the guy because he bounced but you know it's the same thing out of Cleveland. But then you just learn that that's the way it's GonNa be like you're going to be the last to know he not gonNa tell many people and he's GonNa make his decision I mean. How even when he ended up going to the Lakers, there was like I'll never forget I ended up going out and I was getting late night calls from a couple of guys being like there's this weird rumor going around that. He's GonNa. Stay in Cleveland I was like, no, it was the NBA players not that they were calling me they're calling other people and it was It's just one of those things where pat wasn't gonNA get over because he felt like, Hey, once you're part of this in the heat culture, which may be brought up a few times during the finals coverage if they end up in it. Now I will never say the words. Can I ask you a big picture question about something near and dear to your heart? Yeah. Okay Brad Stevens. President Brad Stevens it's been a four weeks. Okay Go. Why don't you just take it any direction because then I have another thing to ask you about afterwards. The Toronto series took way too long. And I thought nurse. Really worked in that series for. A good chunk of it and it was the biggest Stevens has had from another coach in a series. I thought nursed great job that series shouldn't have gone seven dead. And then in this series. I just find it hard to believe. You could be this flummoxed by zone. And that. Even after four games, you can still. Let dudes just go off on for on the or basically get any shot they want with a pick it share it just shouldn't be this easy and I just don't think I think he's a great coach had a knock great last couple of weeks. I'm going to present you with a an arc here because we both know how Boston fans work although I don't think there's necessarily even particular Boston fans but. If the cellphone blues in looseness series, we know what happens. Hey, thought this guy was awesome. Because I think Brad was doing things nobody expected the celtics are supposed to be rebuilding. They're not rebuilding end up being a one seed two, thousand, eighteen, they end up a couple possessions away from maybe getting their their brains beaten against the warriors but actually like how the hell is that team in the NBA finals I know I said something about that finals run Easter finals by the way. That I said, this isn't as impressive as any single season pop has ever had, and we don't even know if he's going to get to the NBA finals because those rosters weren't that good I mean if you look at some of the guys that were getting major miniature like how is this happening Chris Mannix who we both like had this legendary tweet that I'm GonNa pull up. Because I was thinking about this the other day this is from May of two thousand eighteen as their on that run, and it says, you're the GM of an expansion team. You have your choice of any NBA player or Brad? Stevens who do you choose twenty one, thousand votes sixty, six percent said the player thirty, four percent for coach is high that kind of stuff now two years. Is Absurd the stuff that I said maybe about the spurs thing I regret but the general idea that Brad Stevens could come into the league in do that much more with that much less I think was misleading in basically not even true. The East sucked. We look at it now and go. Yeah. The East just really kind of sucked. Lebron was taking off regular season stuff in not grinding then he was beating everybody in the playoffs again so. I feel like Brad is almost a victim of his early success and smashing expectations to now people are going to jump on him in a way that he's never really experienced. There's been hints of it in the past where it's like if this guy, this guy is so great like what the Hell is going on Miami's not that much better than the Celtics what's the deal and I think it has less to do with Brad the coach and everything to do with those early years. That's fair. Here's what I would say in Defensive Brad. Everybody who ends up on this team with the exception Gordon Hayward. It became the best version of them in this dates back five, six, seven years, and you could talk about Evan Turner. Avery Bradley Jay crowder. J just everybody everybody who's in his systems your out. Kyrie. Ironically, you know that that I guess he was one that Brad didn't get the best out of but was that could anybody of pulled that off I don't know. What is I think? I think from that aspect. She has a tendency to get guys over achieve my question for him is like, well, what happens if you have the talented team? 'cause I would say if you put the Boston talent. Against the Miami town it's either even or Boston might even have a slight edge because of how great tatum is or how great could be. And Is he getting the most out of tatum in this series because to win this series? TATUM. As the one that has to be unlocked tatum, this is eight. Now, a best player in the series series has tatum guy there is twenty, six, ten and five pretty good numbers forty, five, percent shooting thirty, two, percent, thirty percent from three he's getting in the free throw line. By, quit my my issue with him as is the shot selection with him has kind of reverted back to two thousand and nineteen especially at the end of the quarters. And I think this would be Brad's single biggest accomplishment if they came back and won this series because they figured out how to unlock them get set zone. 'cause it seems like that zone should be something tatum should destroy. And they can't figure it out if they can't figure it out he's GonNa think about it all summer or there is the summer think about it all would be all winter. Yeah. All winter we'll think about it. Well, that's another. fucking two three zone. Yes especially, when you have your smalls along the baseline because I used to always love seeing teams because in college, you see it far more when you watch a ton of college basketball back in the day when I cared about the big east. you run a guy, the baseline you just run them back and forth and back and forth, and then you people lose them and you get you get somebody in the middle. You can still set a screen in the middle of his own and you just dribble with the purpose that you're GonNa get in there, and then the help comes up and then somebody cuts baseline like you can actually make a zone look terrible. Yeah. If if you get to the get to the middle I think they do. I don't know what the number possessions are. Second Spectrum off the top of my head here. But I feel like they get in trouble when they try to attack his own from the sides and they do it way too much. 'cause Jalen and Taylor these big wings and then Marcus Kinda won't be all over the place and then Kemba maybe doesn't get to go in the direction that he normally would in a regular season game and He made a good point to getting guys to the middle. They were actually getting guys into that caught, which is where you want to attack it but van Gundy perfect point you got at least look at the hoop when you catch the ball in the middle so that the defense reacts because if you never even look at the hoop, then they're never going to really react to me it's not even close out but they're not going to go to you the way they normally defender would when you just ignore it and you're looking to move the basketball before trying to get them to commit to a decision, you may not even make so in challenge Bam. Yeah. You didn't play zone take to try to get two fouls on them. That's a that's another thing that's driven me crazy. They made it easy on him to stay in the game it. The Lakers are challenging Yokich, they want to they want him to get foul trouble. And I kind of wish that would be a strategy for the Celtics. I don't understand NBA teams of that because even when dodgers got into foul trouble in the Clippers series and they asked doc doc goes, we don't go hunting for fouls. Screws up your whole offense and like yeah. But you know maybe maybe to looks at it because you're probably going to have somebody take a terrible three on one of those other possession. So why what's wrong I'm with you I wish I wish teams hunted out another extra foul on a guy every now and then why not? Yeah Right. Like if a guy like Paul George coming out of game seven with his third foul. That changed everything with five minutes to go because Jamal Murray went bananas at the end of the second quarter and it might have been worth putting. Paul. George back in and here we are talking about the clippers against why apologize Coming up. 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Do what moves you drink responsibly Bacardi USA Coral Gables Florida rum with natural flavors and spices delicious from thirty five percent alcohol by volume. All right we don't usually do segments about rumors. Here we're not podcast. So as guest not always innocent of it but yes, for the most we don't, we don't usually Taylor it E-e-e-e-no sports radio style, but this one was too hard to resist. And it was it took off on twitter today. And? Who knows. But the the rumor is that phillies going to try to hire Mike Dantonio and try to get James Harden. I also heard a rumor that was separate from this scenario I went on twitter tomorrow went on twitter and just search for hard and Philly all this stuff came up as like. Oh so this was the thing today. I've just heard rumblings about this and I don't know what's real and what's not real and I'm trying to figure out how to even work but let's just start here. Fundamentally. It has to probably being embiid for heart and right if this happened. So if you're Philly, you could hire make the Antoni. And you could flip Joel Embiid for James started do not aggregate this we're not reporting this. We're not saying it's too late to his all hypothetical. This is all gonna come out by the way. So just just a heads up. Would you do that? Would you give up Joel Embiid for James Harden and put him with Ben Simmons and Horford and Harris, and whoever else you have and unleash Mike Dantonio and the entire crew? With. Start from Philly side, would you do it? Yeah probably would I probably would I think? Well, I think my heart and positions will document As quick aside, imagine going from Ben Simmons being a point guard Russell Westbrook senior point guard. If you're EMBIID, no one deserves at. Its curls that's just pork you probably retire. I don't know what's that Hulu campaign with him where it's like Joel Jordan added very bad about as beams that could be the do Hulu Campaign Matt he still does point car joe get good news. We got bad news good news is Hulu wants to re sign for another year bad news is you're rocket and Westbrook. Is your point. Guard. good. News does state tax. Barnes, that's true as kidding. All right we'll look I answered i. Is it a slam dunk if you're Philly? So. AM beads five years younger. I. Think there's been no signs of drop-off statistically from Hardin. I was surprised as I thought about this from the Philly side. That I think I would say yes. I do. I think it solves every problem I have it's changed the scenery move. It's a massive move I sell more jerseys. The whole thing let's flip to the Houston side. I don't think he's used to. Do it so that that's where I landed mentally because if I'm Houston, I'm like. All right. So I'm getting bead. Didn't see my Tolan shaped last year I have no idea if he's going to be happy just coming to Huston huge injury history obviously say I'm giving up a first team Mambi Guy. Now, putting embiid with Westbrook. PJ Tucker Covington. Erik. Gordon. Where my heading I'm basically making this huge bad that embiid is pissed off from the trade. And says fuck this. I am declaring revenge and everybody I'm getting the best shape of my life and I'm ripping through the week. And, I. Guess. The other thing I would say if you're Houston, it's like I'm never winning a title a James Harden. We've we have a long long long sample size of him as the Best Player on playoff team and every year it ends with the team getting eliminated. So why would I do this? That would be how I talked myself into it. Okay Let me just go on the other side of this which I totally understand. I'm not I'm not saying like, Oh, I understand what you're doing as you're doing it Houston's probably more in the position especially with the ownership situation which we don't know how. It is considering Petita, the the hotels and the tourism part of IT I. You know I've read everything you've read to that on paper it can be really scary. So if that's true and it could still be the decision if it's not true is that at least with hard and I know I'm probably win fifty games. That Houston fans trust me. I know this still love and back all the time. He puts up big numbers. It's a star in a in a weird sense cells jerseys were relevant and yeah we're not winning a title with them, but relevant and harden still brings it basically every night which serves a ton of credit for so even though he's five years older. I. I worry. Again. Beads health is probably gone far better than I would have thought it would have even though he still had timers missed you know thought as he gets older like the real answers that I know what I'm getting harden. The speculative answer is what is embiid going to be, but here's the other part of this that we haven't mentioned wide be a no for me. I would be scared. As. Hell. Of essentially now I'm Westbrook's team. Because without harden WESTBROOK's like okay. Now, we're back to to my shit. Where I've got the ball every single time and as he gets older as a forty million dollar plus year guy I mean it's already bad enough and we can say he was her in the play offs or whatever. But I mean that wasn't anything new as far as I was concerned but I saw the plows now that hardens not they're like hardened probably keeps and check just a little bit that wouldn't happen. because. He just look at embiid saying I've done more than you. I've had more more skin in the game and you know now it's my team. EMBIID is on the books for twenty nine point three next year thirty, one, point three, then three point, six Hardin. Makes about ten million a year more than that year he is forty, one, forty, four, and forty-seven. Seville. Would have to put it another contract to make that work. There's GonNa be single David second beat in Josh Richardson for her to avoid that. He has a pretty. Close I mean, they get there they wanted to I'm going to make the case for this trade. Just as for as a whole, make a case for the trade itself. It's so much more fun. He what we would get. We get. We split. IT WE SPLIT UP EMBIID and Simmons. Which I, the you and I both agree that's never gonNa ever have the kind upside. People would think I just have never liked the fit i. don't think it ever gets better. We split Houston and harden we don't have to watch. That anymore, we don't get the. We'll have to see that because that's over no more hard and Houston Games though more people trying to talk themselves in them as a playoff team all that stuff. So we we get those things. Those are two wins. We get embiid now with his own team. Being like fuck this I'm at the possibility of him coming in being. You know we with the chip on her show shoulder wreaking havoc on the west, which would be really fun and then you have hard in Philly, which any way it goes is going to be phenomenally entertaining if he's great, that'll be awesome. If he's disappointing, the sixers fans will turn on and five seconds because they love embiid. No matter. What outcome it is it's incredible and it's an incredible trade and I just think they should call it in and it should happen. Plus we put up the clutch stuff too by the way. Now. We have been there philly officially becomes the simpsons, Clutch team, and then embiid then that that gets split up to so. What the part that I can't tell which is that? It can away I should be rooting for it to end just be like, Hey, it never happened all you guys all year the media members down there that kept saying all the national guys are idiots because you didn't buy into this being a chance to win title it'd be like I guess what it didn't happen you. But part of me. Wants to see Houston do it again. For hardens going off. Again. Looking around the West or looking at the seedings in their people were tweeting out per one hundred stuff and they're like look at this we haven't seen offensive efficiency since the and then you know look Darryl took a bunch of shots at me on twitter. I would say something and I was even nice about it at times being like, Hey, their defense is better than people give him credit for its rebounding rate I'm I'm a truth teller bill you know that and then Daryl would be like but. Will it work in the play offs Blah Blah and you're like, okay I'm sure you're sick of hearing it but guess what it doesn't work by Yeah I want Houston fans at one more I want one more year of listening to them. Tell me it's actually going to be the year that it actually works, which is dangerous, which is dangerous because you never know one injury here when injury there Chris Paul two years ago the they have a ring, but the part of it would be fascinating. because. I can't believe I'm actually saying, yes, as much as I love him bead. But I like to tear torn up by the straight you like this. I am as good. Normally, you don't get triggered by fake trades, but this one's really in your head, it's living there. Yeah. Hair the celtics just living inside you. I. What I think is interesting about it is about a year ago. Can you imagine all of us collectively saying yeah I'd probably rather trade embiid than Simmons. That's a pretty big leap from where we were a year ago. Read. Yeah because I think physically I just didn't like what I saw last year neither did you. Now, zero there. Half older I actually love a lot of embiid I really do but if you told me I could get embiid with a chip on his shoulder out of this trade that would be my number one most appealing for your being too dismissive my Westbrook team point though I think I'm buying buying Westbrook stock. I think he's getting extra. Get getting. I actually got me there I thought you were serious. Yeah. Well, you know his calf was bothering him. Oh, I know no, I know the. Hyphen. Shake off the COVID. You know there's a whole roadmap for a was rests more compromise than he led on the bubble last year why Russ is going to have another superstar season I can't believe he made thirty miles ba I was outraged. Absolutely outrage Chris Middleton. Put heated. Make it because of this weird forward, center. Point. Thing that I didn't even know existed see that whole thing you fly did no I did when I saw couldn't believe that but westbrook was so good in those two months that that's all. I. Really needed to do an I I'd like to think that the whole year counts. To. It apparently doesn't again. I don't vote for it so I don't. I don't put the amount of look if I voted for it obviously I would I would I would take it very seriously. But when I saw that I went oh well, the voters a bunch of voters you said went ahead Westbrook because he was insane those last few months This is Kinda funny though because as you're talking about the the Westbrook injury thing because this is articles are already rid. They're just coming out whenever the season yards it's like look there's a lot going on rondos brother made fun of him. Emotionally emotionally that's just you know the bubble. They were told rondos brother was not gonNA. Make Fun of them during live action that said bar the Barbara was supposed to be off-limits. He wasn't he he took some liberties. Her there more international reporters But. When Lebron was struggling tonight in game four. It just the number you know he just didn't look like Lebron Game Four. That's that's okay. If we've learned anything out these places, your your favorite player is probably not gonNa look like himself for the best version of himself. A couple of times if teams going deep I was wondering who was going to jump at the chance to go well, Lebron has just CESTINO is bubble thing. Where guys down it was with that had gone if the series had gone to to. ICU. Thirty. I wish I. Could Bet on Fan duel for that WHO will write. Lebron we'll have you seen the thing about how the the closer the team is the better it is for them in the bubble. I like that whole thing like the Celtics had a pool party, the other De. To, give three say this bubble things advantage for them they actually like hanging out and then you read the quicker stuff and you're like, oh, no wonder they got the hell out of there after rat to. Yeah I guess. I. I believe we live I. Keep we live in a world where Marquee Boris is GonNa play in crunch time for final state like what the fuck is going on. Honestly. Well, that's what happens when you you know you have that option because somebody who's asked me the day like, do you think? The Lakers are bad at developing players and I went. Back to two thousand fifteen if you to de Ngelo Russell, we're talking three different coaches. Yeah. The heat he'd have a system in place the development of Bam hero Duncan it's incredible. So the easy answer is yes but ultimately like who cares what you're developing when you can trade them all for Anthony Davis. So I think Ingram getting out L. La was just helped him. I agree. I so look this isn't this is the reason why you're talking about Mark Morris Right now is because you go all right a traded everything for you gave us we keep our depth or go get that guy. Pears Pears, he'd want for the next five years. Your choices are. Luca porzingus. Yokich Murray Tatum Brown Simmons, and EMBIID. Rank them one to four. All. Right. Miss the third one and they're so Likud zinc. Yoga's Murray Simmons Embiid Tatum Brown rank them one through four. God that's way harder. Then you think because I think you almost. Simmons embiid. I've seen enough of Brown had them for them fourth. Brown's the worst player of the. Yeah come on. He's been awesome in this Baima sears. I? Guess. Yup, presents US eighth so you have Luca One. zingers eighth I bet ya for. Yes well, on the cuts for just because of the injuries I can't believe I'm GonNa say this but I think it's it's Yokich. Murray. Is the first choice and then it's Luke. Luke and I don't care for the other guys. I had Luca Porzingus Yokich Murray Tatum? Brad. Simmons embiid if Luca if it was Luca Dwight Powell, would you've taken Luca listen I? Was GonNa tell you is if those Luca Seth Curry that's still my number of pick. Hey don't don't disrespect Seth Curry. No I really I would have happened. Getting of, getty to to watch it. Lucas Seth Curry would be by but yeah. So Yeah Lucan anybody is my number one pick. 'cause especially when we're watching in the bubble this year in the in this round, it's like. That's how you win the title with the guy who does all of that stuff like Miami won game three with urge game forward tyler hero doing Luca impression. It's that's how you're GonNa Win Basketball is played. Now you have to have that guy it's so weird that you need that guy is so much more than you need a center because we grew up in a world where it's like, you guy get that center got the guy and now it's like you gotta get Luca. You have to have a guy like that who can create a shot from self for other people. There's just no spacing. Then you know there's just the game it looks like a completely different sport and sometimes I'm not saying like you know what I really miss is eighteen second post possessions were were eight people watched, but there's other nights to where I see. Thirty two percent shooters jacking it up from thirty feet out or I go. Yeah. This is way better. Can. I give you one more I've just trying to figure out who I could put with Luca for you to take him not number one. What if it was Lucan Westbrook's contract? Still Take Luca, Luca and John Wall. It's still taking. Just to look at tax, what if it's Luca Drago? Ivan Drago. Can. I. Give You one more. Luca and Rick Reilly. No. Zach Levine. In Wendo Carter. Or Marvin Bagley. Yeah I I'm going to take anybody that I mean Zach Levine. Thing you always usually GonNa lose me I. Still have a lot of hope for window Carter though I do i. I I'll go buddy in the unknown of Bagley high ceiling Bagley. High ceiling how `Bout Zach Levine for buddy trade. Didn't the Kings try to sign Zach Levine didn't they tried to? Our FA him that time. But then I don't remember off the top of my head Let's Buddy Buddy for Zach Levine. On paper, but they would never shades via but you and I both like buddy more. Right, you. Know. You know like Zach Levine, a lot Lebron. They go. All right. We're going to take a break. and. We're GONNA talk football, which we really do in this podcast looking forward to it. All right. We're doing million Dr Pick student with. Priscilla. This week. So excited to have another live body I had an awesome week last week we're talked about in a second but by now you've probably heard does sports books, world-class sports betting APP. Yeah you know about it they make it easy to find and place your bets. They've got some of the best agile find anywhere. 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In one second, we're going to be using the lands from Fandango. A give you three quick. NFL topics before we do the picks. Topic number one is drew brees washed up. Too early. You gotta give me give me more than two weeks and especially one of them without Michael Thomas N Saints Defense that I actually really like coming in they got lit up by Derek? Carr in the Vegas Raiders so you know just we do. I know he wasn't the football down the field I get all I, get all of the criticisms I'm not telling you still awesome I just need a little bit more time before I'm ready to say, Hey, they're doomed with drew brees. Would you least rather be the giants or the jets? the jets. Jets are missing all their go guys this week to I just saw that. The Donald thing is looking I. can't believe I'm saying this. But it's I. Do Think darnold is actually a worse option Daniel Jones out this point It's pretty much dead even. darnold might be like a want minus one fifteen favorite but he's played lay closer. Yeah. It's way closer than that. I think I ever expect how about you you rather be. I'd rather be the giants. At the I. Day at least have a couple skill guys that are like the jets are not a wasteland. But. The coach really seems like he's by far the worst coach out of the thirty two like he he's like dramatically terrible. Yeah. If you feel like with gays, it's like somebody would say, Hey, you're not good at this but just relax on the whole presentation to yeah like Joe. Judge. It's GonNa take us because he's so buttoned up and yet people do really like him. It appears you know and it's early but but judge is. is going to be harder to figure out if he doesn't know what he's doing, which I don't think anybody's heard that. No one's that he just doesn't have the resume the other guys have had. So I think gas alone makes it an easy answer. My last question does, did he keep you awake this week when you found out Russell? Wilson. Never got an the people had react walk me through like your first couple of days. While it was tough over here at Ross HQ. And you know how I feel about him. I love the player you guys just no I hate his interview so much because they're atrocious interviews But this is really simple if you go through it and you go through year to year, was somebody supposed to give a first place vote last year over Lamar Jackson. I'll answer for you know with someone two years ago supposed to give Russia vote over Patrick Mahomes. Again, I'll answer no three years ago I actually set my radio all season long I think it's rusted should be rusted should be rush and then Russ in Brady close away closes and you're like you know what? Brady was the right choice. So No Matt Ryan was. Shanahan no Cam Newton and what he did especially, the comebacks in the second half the season in the way he closed where it could have been brady that year two in two, thousand fifteen. So when you go and look at the years and you go, well, it sounds weird he's never had first place vote but then you're basically saying, Hey, somebody should have voted for the wrong guy in the years that that happens and I'll put it this way back in two, thousand, fifteen, the radio lineup espn was Greenie Golick cowherd me Van Pelt. If you voted hottest talk show host. We know that cowherds winning. But does it mean that greenies ugly? We do this as you would say. And we don't act. Now we do this and we don't actually look at the year by year like it was just. So if I told you Kobe won MVP. Oh my God. What the Hell Laker fans have a heart attack right? Like how to Kobe only win when MVP he's the greatest player of all time. That's crazy. And then you do the exercise of okay well. What was the other MVP should one? The only other one that's even possible as oh six. So. Then you say the Laker fans. or whoever is arguing this Kobe thing? How many times did Kobe finished in the top three in mvp you'd like what ten eleven. Now is actually five. He first place second place three third places. This is over the course of I don't know eighteen nineteen years. We think of like when we talk about a words, you'd think of what you think should have happened. But the year by years just as it is what it is, and that's it and it's like Kareem one, six, MVP's six. MVP's a second place two third places. It's fucking amazing. But guess what Kareem was amazing. He dominated a whole decade. This is the case against if you're talking about Kobe historically like he was really really really good. He was a top five guy for a long time, but he was never like dominant the way Kareem Lebron Jordan Russell will bird won three straight MVP. Three Moses was the best part of the League for four years. You gone down the line that Kobe never had that stretch he ripped off but now if you look at it in twenty twenty. People lose their minds if they what Kobe on one MVP, only five top three finishes what it's like. Well, that's why we keep track of this stuff year by year. Sorry. You drives me crazy because it's not that hard. You know how long it took me to rattle off that MVP thing I just looked it up because I go wait a minute. Let me go back and look at this and I go. Okay do the Show your mass, show your math, and yet they'll be talk shows that that they'll be on the job like rust never got a first place vote and then everybody is like a collective I roll like they're all in on it and I go I would be uncomfortable being out onset saying stuff I didn't go back and look at it the whole time, and that's not that hard to do. It took less than five minutes to go. Oh, wait that's right Oh that's right. Shanahan in. Matt Ryan Oh. That's right Brady. Oh. That's right Cam. Okay. Then like was anybody going who was doing the talk show in two thousand eighteen that said Russell Wilson is having a better year than Patrick mahomes because nobody was doing nobody was doing unless you're in Seattle and you're just a homemade with whole thing. So it's not that hard to figure out why we had this Russia thing but I'll give it give it up. It's turned into a thing now where you're almost shamed into it. So time season and they win a twelve games, he's winning this thing I. think it's a little bit why Lebron did what he did when he complained about only getting the sixteen first place votes you're you're just putting pressure on everybody making them. And it's almost like a guilt trip. It's like what my dad makes me feel guilty that I haven't been to Boston in nine. It's like I i. know what you're doing. It's a little tiny but I know the purpose behind it. If you take a private jet back, I'll go with you but. Lebron. We've run it up I. think the bubble may have cost. Lebron MVP this year if we have a normal regular season momentum coming off that thing we. Got Her I don't think. Even Wilbon did it like he started talking it up and then it starts carrying over I, know we. Nate. Right we we. We called it going if this were to continue on some like nice clothes and they have the best record actually, I don't think we're going to catch Milwaukee. I, don't remember the record on my head now but. then it resets the no one really cares Lakers aren't really actually played terrible and the bubbles stuff wasn't gonNA count towards voting anyway because they said, order WanNa make it unfair for any of the awards but. I'm. Lebron. Get enough first place votes bugle. Okay. But statistically especially when you look at the whole picture, it was Kinda hard to put you I unless you're voting for the story which some people did but the narratives, the narrative part of it, which you know I've been I've been guilty of fallen for that too. I'M NOT GONNA I'm not GonNa lie maybe we should China whether you should vote for the MVP five years after the season happens thank the Oscars that's what I wonder if they ask us all right million dollar picks week. Week one I lost. Eight hundred four eight thousand dollars. One last week I hit everything I one point two, four, million dollars. So now I'm I'm up three, hundred, seventy thousand dollars for the season. I'm. GonNa go through my picks at the I haven't officially. Signed off on these but I'm GonNa tell you what I'm thinking. And I'm just going to bounce these off I. Have a general idea what I'm going to do. There's three games that I like, but I'm staying away from. I one. Titans at Vikings. Titans are favored by two and a half's. And it's one of those games where you look at and you go titans can't wait to bet on them the vikings suck. They're having ear for this'll be easy. I. Don't know why the lines not three. It seems too easy and I can't think of a single reason take the vikings so that actually scares and I'm staying away. Can you think of a reason to take the Vikings? Only that they can't be this bad I mean cousins who is not exactly my dude I. This is like atrocious. Yeah. They just lost bar I. Think they're I. think they lost like three either top five linebackers going into this weekend. So that number seems so small, but it has to be. It's the second most public numbers far as public money on the titans. So only the buccaneers have more public money on them in their broncos matchup So that alone with my old van pelt days of fading, the public that alone would scare me A. Little bit but yeah, it looks it looks pretty sticky. The other thing that worries me about this if you like the titans is they barely beat the jags last week and you come out of that and go out of the jags frisky and then the jags Kit House by Miami that's not a good time for Tennessee. So that game is the stay second game that I'm staying away from even though I stared at it for a while. The Washington professional football team. Is Getting seven and a half points against Cleveland. I, love getting that extra half point. The browns people feeling good about them after last week little to two-headed running attack Baker and kill. Them. Their home again. I really like Washington's defense not assault on their offense it's I really wanted to take the seven half of the Washington, but here's why I'm not doing it. I actually think Cleveland found something with the with the two headed rushing monster with Chubb and with Kareem Hunt. Over the course of four quarters, it's really tough. Honestly those two might be to the best like eight or nine running backs in the league. He Got Chub one series then hunt comes in and I actually think they found an identity last week and it scares me enough. That I'm a minute stay way even though. I can't believe. That the line is that high, but we might be coming back to them in a second for the long shot parley of the week but for the seven and a half. I'm going to stay away. I'd Rather Bet Washington straight up any thoughts on this. I think Washington might be terrible. And because the eagles were so bad in that game and Haskins had a couple of plays and I think people talk themselves into young quarterbacks and who knows what Haskins but I think. The second week of Washington is more in line with probably who they are right now. So I I wouldn't want to. I feel like that's the kind of game you why did I bet on Washington when they might be awful and they lose by twenty which is why we're staying away third one. So the Texans are getting four in Pittsburgh. And I do like the Oh and two team in certain situations even though I do not like this Houston team that much. But you know they played Ken Stadium Baltimore the first two weeks. There's no way to know of this team is even good or not their schedule. Is Never GonNA approach those first two weeks get and then with the steelers like. I don't know they didn't the great against the giants then that Denver Game Jeff jurisco comes in halfway through in their lingering and hanging around and then Denver has a chance to win I have no idea if the steelers are good and I look at this stuff like. Am I getting free points. And this I just think with with this being a must win for the Texans. Against the two steelers. Feel like the line should be three or three and a half, and it's four. So I feel like I'm getting at least a free point and yet. I'm still staying away because I don't like this. Texans team what do you think? I love the theory especially when you think about who they played, but it's been pretty ugly but. I'm that big a fan of Sean that I take a shot at it. but the personnel for the defense is. Something I still really like any kind of navigate through like by the end of the month how many feel about some of these defensive groups I think steelers have chance to be one of those groups you still gonNa like and the depth that receiver again with unknown dudes unless you're big into college football looks like we haven't skipped to be in evaluating the receivers, but Houston can't be this chase Klay Pool, but the Fox loved jaded again. And, the Patriots can never do it in the state was just do it every year All right. So you agree stay away on this one. Yeah I. think There's other stuff I like better. Okay. Go ahead. All right. So here's what we're looking at I've done a tease both weeks I like doing the teasers. So, I love the cards I've watched every play of both cardinals games and I just like them against the lions. I don't think the lions secondary is very good. I liked tyler I think something's happened with that team and I'm not sure people totally realized that they're only favored by five against the Lions. So you have a chance to team that with Tampa Tampa's in Denver I don't love Tampa I do love their defense and I do think there at least pretty good. DENVER, a team that it has gone sideways and then some like they. Just lost, Portland Sutton quarterback. Lowers on gone now and They're also in a really good division. You know you're with the chiefs. The raiders are to know the chargers look fucking really frisky last week and they're better too. So they're Kinda. Clearly, the fourth place team they've had some bad luck. It seems like they're this point of the season where might actually go really sideways and maybe you even start thinking fuck it maybe we should really really suck. So if I can tease the cardinals to plus one Tampa to even. And I just need those teams to win. I'm GonNa, do that my question for you is I could do with three teamer. Make it a ten point tease. and. I could bring in the colts minus eleven and a half at home against the jets who were missing all of their receivers They're running back. Guys all over the place and Adam gaces their head coach. Do I even need to bring the colts. Center should I just do the cardinals and Tampa str- as the team tease. Yeah, the the more. Dangerous you get with all this stuff though like the more likely you're gonNA get screwed on some outcome that nobody sees coming, which would be a jets win against the colts, right? Yeah. What seems impossible on Pay Phil rivers just Yuck and make. Your do you've done this long enough you don't need me to tell you the lesson of how stupid you feel when you first learned about all these different things you can do when you're like Oh wait. Are you serious dude the team sucks? I had to give out one on my fan will pick and I gave out Detroit 'cause when did three and then it went to six, and now it's five or five and a half, and it's the second most publicly bet side on the cards because everybody's likes them. Now everybody Kinda likes them. I don't know that it's revenge for the tie last year I don't know if. You put that up in the the Whiteboard, and be like last year we tied sucked but I could see. Detroit. But. Since you're teasing it down and it's basically to pick them I like that Combo I do I'm just going to go ahead and say, oh the. Win I'm fully prepared. To I like I like you better a two teams than three teams. Okay. All right. So we're lacking those in cards minus five Tampa amount of six next one. It looks a tiny bit too easy. Baby doesn't Falcons minus three over the bears to me. The Falcons are one and went in the onside kick thing was absolutely ludicrous once in a lifetime fuck up. They outplayed Dallas, deserve to win. They didn't win I love the fact that they can move the ball and score which they did over and over again, Dowse my question with the bears. Atlanta's defense is not very good. Now Atlanta's also Owen to which I love coming off a bad loss. This is revenge for them where they just gotTa tone for there's no one believes in Owen teams like you. Know, I've always said about you. The bears are to it. Oh, I definitely don't believe in them are the bears first of all the bears are going to go three. Now that seems unrealistic second if the Falcons can get the thirty points can mitch matching them. In matching the points also seems unrealistic. So I like the Falcons minus three even though it seems a little obvious. What do you think you I? I'm prepared to be talked out of this. I can't bet on the bears so. I`Ma, I'm with you there. And I mean I'm dumb enough to keep believing that Matt Ryan can turn this thing around I. Think I've been saying that since that super bowl loss. So my thing is when I when I bet on teens especially teams at our own to underdogs whatever. I wanted to know that at least they're going to be able to move the ball and have drives and make plays and do stuff like that, which is going to lead us to our next team that I'm picking a second the Falcons are going to move the ball and score points they are. Yes. Are It's GonNa Happen. So Ryan, through for have I have I shown you that Seattle Number What Seattle's pass defenses now granted they they've gone up against two teams through the ball over place including cam but. Seattle's giving up four, hundred, twelve yards passing, and then there's only one other team that's giving up over three hundred and then every other team is less than three hundred. So it's like Seattle. So yes. The easy answer to that is that no matter what Atlanta's Props I still can you ever imagine a chick coach team like no one jumping on an onside kick for ten yards. and honestly, he would kill himself. You'd blow out of Samurai Sword. In Jama Sam Ryan was heart. All right. So we'll go your got but. I'm GonNa Pencil in the Falcons next one's same case Bengals at the Eagles bengals get four and a half. I watched that Bengals browns game and I think the bengals could move the ball and throw the ball and one of the reasons I. Like that says. Even. If the eagles are up ten in the fourth quarter, I still feel like borough is going to be an unbelievable garbage time quarterback. I. Think if you're down fourteen and you need to see him to cover the t's get down seven or. Whatever? He is going to have some cheap td's he's got decent receivers. he knows kind of scraper or make plays. Great. Great. I think they could win this game because I think the Eagles Stink I. Really do I think they stink. So four and a half I thought the line should have been eagles by three I'm getting. You know a point and a half de Vito a through two weeks philly was last thirty second. Philly might be bad This is basically split, but actually just a little bit more of the public on his on Cincinnati I'm going to ask you this I'm not saying borough is Brady, but does borough look like early early Brady to you not all right. We're GONNA air this thing out a couple of years. Later in his career, you know it's not the strongest arm, but it's I. Think he's way more way more agile than Brady was even young Brady Yeah if you're going to get out and run I, mean it's borough already can never do these twenty three yard scramble down I'm not saying that but I'm just as. The, more accurate than Brady was first couple of years of his career. Brady was inaccurate like this. All. Right. So he's going to be better than Brady. Six now did not say that Oh brady four season vaulted a level. He would see the first two seasons was not like what we saw from borough. So you like you in the end this bengals four and a half. Next one I'm not positive about just WANNA talk through. Word here now I got three more. I'm not positive on this on rams plus two against the bills I think I'm staying away. I really liked the rams is share a bed on the new in the NFC. The bills are to know and Alan put up all these numbers, but they put to shit teams. And I believe in the Rams it worries me though that there plus. This should be bills by three. It means that people are on the Rams peop- of notice them. And something makes me nervous about it. So leaning towards staying away, what do you think? Two things one when you have the rams actually have an offensive line and Cooper cop, we realize just a different team. We almost forgot what that looks like. The offensive line graded out is one of the worst if not like the second worst league last year and Cup and one of the things I love and we had dilfer on the I pod and they did a really good job like how they the broadcast was. That was the Sunday night or right the rams the first one. Yeah. the way they were kind of in sync with selling the way they were blocking. Stuff it was just really great call NBC Michael's concerts in an awesome job in that game I thought and I'm like man, these guys are like really locked in I. think that's one of McVeigh's specialties is to do what we do. We're going to make it simple, but it's going to be hard to deal with because we're just going to be that good at some of the stuff that was kind of the chip. Kelly. Thing at Oregon were like we're just going to execute what we execute better than other teams do and with company and back in the line again. So I WOULD I'm with you but I look I thought Josh Allen was on the road to like fake hope kind of like Mitch trubisky thing and he's been now it's what the jets in Miami but he's he's destroyed those teams Yes oh, I could be wrong about Alan and that's probably why that number. Like you thought it should have been they should have been favored by more La. I expected to bill. Now I expected the bills to be favored by three there by two. Now I thought just because the bills to now playoff team last year. You know. So anyway, all right I'M GONNA Mark Dantonio to more packers plus three saints. This is I'm probably staying away from this one because touch. This would be a pure go against drew brees by. I I wouldn't know what to do with this one I. Think we'll get. A. Little bit more of a the drew brees except for the fact that Rogers looks like he's Mat Rogers from like four years ago. I can't help you. It it's a fair line. I don't think I'm getting any value the three the line is what it is. The only question is without Michael Thomas. Can The saints move the ball? I just assume. They're gonNA pull weird champagne. Reverse Shit and couple gimmick plays and stuff like that. But hold off on this one. Probably last one would be cowboys plus five seahawks. You mentioned how bad the seahawks pass defense was. The reason I like this one is just 'cause. Five points is a lot I mean garbage time touchdown territory with that to the seahawks are obtain I can still cover with a late touchdown. I don't understand. This is in cowboys three instead of cowboys five. New England covered I mean if they get the two point conversion, they cover that game I mean on top of almost winning So I I don't have any problem with with taken that many points at least you're gonNA move the ball against him just like everybody else has and another week with the receivers and Dak and I think some of the no huddle stuff that they had a run just to get back into that game gets Atlanta and he starts putting on a show I would think they'd be a little bit more aggressive and try some more stuff. So I would rather have all those points than than trying to get past them. So yeah. The fear on this one is they have no linebackers and Seattle has the ball for forty minutes. So I just want to talk about that part for one second. There's a version of this game where Seattle is completely dominance and Dowse Nevarez the ball. Yeah. But we got to see it from a defense. It hasn't good now for few years I mean it's been okay. But it hasn't military good against secondary. I didn't even realize it because when I was looking at stuff over the atoms trade was like wait. Oh, the secondary is actually Kind of sucked now for a while, will they had no pass rush? Yeah. Tm came could do it everyone last week. All right. Last one is the long shop. Partly of the week I'm putting Cincy in there. Do I sprinkle a little on the long shots to win Zoe's like ten to one odds? So since he's plus one eighty four and that's going to be one of them. Other possibilities for the second spot raiders plus one nine eight against the pats I can't do that because I love the pats Washington plus two, seventy five. Carolina plus to thirty against the chargers know McCaffrey. Dallas plus one eighty, four in Seattle. Or? That's it. You like any of those I don't like panthers charges I'm telling you man I think that chargers defense is awesome I like her names. Yeah I'M A fan. So you had one that I lay raiders, pats Viggo Raider. Ninety eight are you going to be shocked if the raiders now you know? You're right. I had it down and I was like the thing is like. This is a long shot parlay and I care more about being accurate and obviously I'll be rooting for the pats I'm going to get. Parlay at figure out whatever All right. That is. One like you. Your loser parley voice. Thank. You. Sets plus seven, forty six. For that raiders plus one, Ninety, eight with CINCY. Plus when eighty four right so here's what we're doing. Five hundred at a TEASER CARDS MINUS FIVE TAMPA MINUS six. Two Hundred Fifty K. on the following four Falcons monastery over the bears the. bengals plus four and a half over the eagles cowboys plus five over the seahawks and rams plus two over the bills. And then the long shop parley of the week is raiders plus one, Ninety, eight, and Cincy plus one, eighty, four. I'm. GonNa. Put. A mini go light on that one I'm going go ten K. to win seven. Sp Cly seventy, four, thousand, six, hundred has that Santia. She like this. Was it more fun with Van Pelt I feel like the Second Way Oh. No No. No, it was not any fun with ample Van Pelt was an asshole about it the whole time. and. He knows it. So I, don't I'm not like he would just look at me go because I didn't put it ton of time to know shocker I. Used to love to bat and then I just felt like I. Don't know I wasn't I wasn't. And I didn't have any money. It was kind of sucked not not be winning. So but Scott, loved it. He wanted he wanted to be known as the guy and he was pretty good but the thing is Stanford Sivas better in that Scott, we get super competitive about it and he basically would just look at me to be like get done with your five stupid picks and let the show begin. So it was very much like that was his thing he loved given out his picks he talking about the board all week he'd have his card he give out. Three tastes. But those were official picks. He didn't like any exotic but that was his thing and I got that it was his thing. But for my role on it, it wasn't a lot of fun and then if I had a good year and beat him, he would tell me that I didn't deserve to beat him. He'd be like, wow, that was just stupid. You should have one this year and I go yeah. But I did and they'd be like whatever or if I were ahead in the standings, you're not GonNa win you know and I'm like all right relaxed guy. Wow. He knows this when you guys start seeing a marriage counselor. We only had like four fights ever in six years. So I'm I'm I love our track record, but he knows that that segment was. The Guy should not even done it. I should have just gone look yours your favorite thing give out picks studio Lettuce Ola. Yeah. It be your thing because you're including me because there's was always this stuff and if I were included maybe I would shit head about it back then anyway but. That was that was his time to shine and just knew like after a while after six years of it I was like, all right because he was just wrap it up, wrap it up, wrap it up I go and I'm like all right I got he'd never actually did the finger roll in front of me. That's always a bad thing girl that's what you do. Your Co host. Hey, wrap it up. That's. You know you guys are. All right. So we'll be back next Thursday I I'm assuming. The finals is GonNa Start Wednesday unless we have a game seven but if we have I don't know. We're GONNA have to figure this out because there might be a basketball game next Wednesday. So we're GONNA have to figure out our schedule for just do it. At some point next week armin sounds good. All right. Thanks to Russillo thanks to spotify. Thanks to simply remember they've got everything. You need to protect your home with none of the drawbacks of traditional home security, set it up yourself in under an hour. No technician required no contract. 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CBS 2 News AM News Update 08-14-20

CBS2 News Chicago

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CBS 2 News AM News Update 08-14-20

"From the CBS to newsroom I'm Ryan. Baker with your Friday morning headline Chicago Police Superintendent. David Brown is warning troublemakers to steer clear of downtown this weekend following Monday mornings mayhem in the loop a black lives matter protesters plan for noon on Saturday on the Dan Ryan Meantime. The Cook County State's Attorney's office says, they've already approved forty two felony charges surrounding this week's looting longtime state Senator Terry, link is indicted for federal tax evasion. The indictment charges that link filed a. False income tax return for two thousand, sixteen the return indicated the earned two, hundred, sixty, four, thousand dollars that year but prosecutors allege the seventy three year old Democrat new in fact is income was substantially Higher Lincoln represented Illinois Thirty district in the northern suburbs for nearly twenty four years. Temperatures continue to climb back up this weekend. It'll be mostly sunny today with a high of eight download the CBS Chicago App Stream News around the clock. CBS. In Chicago I'm Ryan Baker.

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How To Connect With Any Influencers Your Industry - Matt Wolfe & Joe Fier

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How To Connect With Any Influencers Your Industry - Matt Wolfe & Joe Fier

"Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, what's up, buddy? You're listening to the hustle and flow chart podcast. Mount wolf and Joe fear. Welcome back. You hesitated on the record button there, Matt. No. I didn't know don't give him behind the scenes wait. No, this is about behind the scene. I thought that's what we're doing. Hesitated on the mic on the record button. So you're listening to the hustle and flow chart podcast. You are welcome, welcome. Thank you for joining us. We were honored Tabio. That's true. It is very true honored. What is what does this episode? Matthew. So this is another one of our therapy sessions. We actually don't have a guest again and today Joe and I are just having a little chat about some of the cool stuff. We're doing in our business chat. But before we jump in do want to remind you we do it. We are taking notes on this for you. Right. I tend to forget that when it's our own conversation. We have news for those hats, hustle, and flew chart dot com slash CEO. MP. Hustling flow, chart dot com slash comp and anything that we mentioned, that's, like a cool tip trick tactic strategy or anything like that. Those will be in those notes that kind of like Cliff's notes for our podcast and we're hooking you up for free, if you get it quickly. So within a week or so of this podcast coming out, we leave them live. And then after that they go and get locked down into the archives into the, the volt. Yes. So hustle and Plutarch dot com slash cop. And yeah, they're like, action Gad's. I kind of like the action guide term we were just talking in Milwaukee's. And I think he's going to be released probably prior to this one here. So if you haven't listened to that go, not. But you won't be okay. Never mind. It'll be in the future. Needs episode is coming out closer to Novi List building over chill summit, which is launching in August. And so his episode comes out at the very end of July God at your time in that one time ended up, sometimes, you know, that's a little behind the scenes for you right there. Sometimes you got a time up episodes to win your guests want them to be Ray. We're recording one that I think next no this month in. It's not going to go live until next year, that's with come all RAF account. Oh, that's, that's how far out is. But maybe I'll maybe I'll put some speak peeks out on hustle and flow shorts or something. We'll have to get his approval. I, maybe we'll see. It'll be a fun time either way we seek forgiveness over permission sometime. We have no shortage of amazing content and guests that come onto the show. So there's some cool ones. Coming up, you're seeing tail. We're running out of the good ones, almost over. Right. Wow. Out there. Jesus. Well today. I mean, all right. So these little therapy sessions. We purposely don't prepare too much. But this one, we said, hey, well, at least let's, let's like have couple bullet points. We got topics two topics so who knows where they're gonna be split. But one being talking kind of about those, those cops that the companion action guides we were talking about how we actually turn those into a product called the letter that's our physical newsletter. We send out to a bunch of people in the mail every month and then the other side of the conversation is going to talk about influence or marketing and kind of our approach to getting the names. You see on this show. Yeah. And also just ways that we can, you know, create a conversation to do advisory deals, and, and rub shared deals, and just working with people on cool projects. It all stems from, you're listening to it podcast. And then this is like our behind the scenes. We'll show you how we're actually getting some of these names and doing her follow ups and stuff. And I mean it kind of ties back to the you know, we were just having a discussion with Novi for his virtual summit. And at the end of the call after we stopped recording he said, man, you guys are doing some good stuff with influence or outreach. And you're getting some big names. I'm doing some big stuff with influence our outreach for my summits. Let's circle back around and do another little like bonus session about influence or outreach. And we said, we should but then also a good topic for our podcast. Thanks. Let's start with then I I'm excited about it all ties together. So if we kind of talk about influence or outreach, and Howard getting bigger and bigger name guests on our podcast. And then we kind of shift in to talk about the newsletter the newsletter quite literally leverage is all of these bigger name. Guests that we're getting on the podcasts that was done on purpose. No way. We have we've finally gotten smart. Okay. So match finally gotten smart, and I'm getting for something happen know everything we're doing it feels like we're there's such interesting opportunities happening and it really stems from this network that we're building through this outreach. We're about to talk about, but I'm looking at our board and our foundation really is the podcast way we monetize, mainly is through filial offers, and it's starting new become that the newsletter is now one of those things that's generating more revenue in. It's another platform, we're building the really are found Asian are like those three things this three things turned into all different types of off opportunities where they could be advisory things Rev shares speaking bigger projects, you know live. Some it's like the thing or the virtual summit, we were talking about, you know, affiliate offers just there's all this stuff works together, which is really cool. But I mean, like, you know, like a therapy session. Moment here. One of the things that I always sort of get in my own head about, is how often we kind of, you know, tweak our business model. A little bit. Right. Like, you know I if you've looked back through my history when I first started I ran a personal finance blog. And then we ran a health blog, and then we had a site called MB T media for a little while which was our first entry into, like teaching marketing strategies, which I think Joe's forgot about because he just got a laughed. No. Forgot the acronym and yeah in BT. It was awesome. And, and you look at this sort of evolution, and I had a site about blogging, and then I was working with Josh on Josh Bartlett on beyond the hype, which was like a daily deal site that we ran for a little bit. And then, you know, Joe has his own set of history with, like the agency and working with me should his video creation, stuff east forces and at one point, and, you know, there's all these, these things that we've done in our business, and I always kind of beat myself up about, like why haven't I stuck with one thing long enough? But when I really look at everything. It. I look at it more as like a not jumping around. But more of this sort of gradual evolution. It's kind of been this, this everything that I've done sort of educated me for the next steps of the things that I've done, and then that educated me for the next steps, and that sort of all, led to where we are today, which is podcast affiliate marketing a newsletter. It was this evolution of figuring out what I enjoy the most. What you enjoy the most. What we're the best at what we can sustain, and also what we are uniquely qualified over anybody else to do. And it is that kind of combo of things I'll make you feel good men, because our main man role and Frazier, shutout to him and his podcast and business lunch with the role in check it out. It's brilliant. I'm serious. I'm hooked to that for podcast. Right now he is a massive believer in being in the flow. And he says that on his podcast, he said it in some interviews where yeah, it's business deals. It's opportunities. It's just life. Is he's a believer in the flow. And I feel like we have always put ourself in the flow, somehow, I mean, look at our traffic course from a couple years ago when we first did the talk on how we do traffic over retargeting Email podcasts part of it now and all this stuff, and we were essentially backed up in a corner, which is true by about twenty people surrounded after we did this talk, Aaron Fletcher's house and his intensive, and we were just like crap. Okay. And they're all basically wanted us to make a course about this because they asked us while we were talking. Okay. Can we hire you for this? No. Do you have a course on this? No, no. We're doing it. I self and we're selling affiliate stuff, but that was being in the flow. We had a talk, and we're like, okay, well, I guess it is really in demand. No one else is really teaching it like this, and people want it, it's really gonna help people that is, and that's why we actually can affect up in made. That course even though unwillingly we didn't want to put more. Info out there as a chorus package like, well, I mean, we, you know, like you said, at errands thing, we had a bunch of people come up after giving that presentation. And so what we did there. And we're totally off topic of what we're talking about what we'll circle back around in a second, we'll loop at that, but you know what ended up happening was we spoke at that event. We came back, and we sort of debated back and forth shooting. Make this course should we make this course should we? And we were on the top of Ahrends roof actually and was having this is after this is true story. This is like they thought we left to know we were still there, this amazing house, right on the cliffs and you know, north county San Diego and. Yeah, he was out there bonfire. I think with, like his wife and a few other friends and stuff. Yeah. They thought we bolted, but we just went to the roof of his house for like thirty minutes. And we were legitimately like shit to actually make this course. Like I know we're obviously we could buses thing out and a week if we really needed to, but we want to. So it was like this constant then we're up there for probably a good half an hour or so. Our? Maybe we walked back downstairs, and also by the bonfire. They're like, oh shit. We thought you left, like an hour ago, we came back to our houses in like the next day, I think what we decided to do was male the people that were at that event and say, we're thinking about putting a traffic course together. Do you want it? If we do we sort of pre presold it a little bit. And that people were going to say, yes, if we did put it together, and, and that sort of leads to put it together, and again, we're sort of coming back around to a place where we're phasing out a lot of our selling of courses. And we're believer in the flow, again like okay, so the flu now is telling us that frigging podcast is blowing up. And the fact that we do podcasting in a different way is unique. That's why we're getting a lot of opportunities from other podcasters or people who want to be a podcast or or have have a, you know, a piece in that market. Maybe they're a big name or they have a big audience in some other area. Maybe you know YouTube, let's call it and they want to go on pot. Casting they're approaching us, and we like to do you podcasting or we're not gonna make a course, at least we're haven't been sold do that yet. No, it's cornered us into, you know, please don't. But that's why we're doing the advising and rep share stuff. Interesting deals because it's fun for us, and it's fun to work with people who we like to work with, and we know that the value, we're bringing is unique in it's, it's it can be very big for that podcast or in the audience, and I've got to be honest to like, when it comes to a course around podcasting, the, the way we do. Podcasting is sort of so unique from what anybody else is doing out there. Right. We're not making all of our money, off, sponsors, we make money off affiliate marketing and this newsletter that we're gonna talk about in a minute. And nobody else is doing it the way we're doing it. And I feel like if we were gonna go out there and put a course out there and sort of spread the word about how we're so successful with podcasting. It will become saturated, there will be more people following our techniques. And that just makes the, the stuff that we're doing a little bit. You know, less valuable it makes it a little bit less profitable for everybody involved. It's fulfilling as much fulfilling for us to fulfilled by sharing stuff for free and then, like, working closely with companies where we can see the impact, so that's where the advising stuff comes in. We're like, if we can get on the phone with them, like once a month and steer the direction and actually see the results. And hey, we tried this, and these are the results were getting and, you know, sort of really kind of take things in the direction. We want to take them in. That's what that's what pumps me up is actually seeing the results from people where when we sell courses on things like traffic and podcasting. You know, we know a good like ninety percent of the people that go through the courses go through them. They're just education junkies. They don't take action. And you know, that's, that's fine. We're happy to have you as a customer, if that's what you wanna do. But it ease at us a little bit. We're not sleeping as well as at night, when we know that the effort really, it's the effort, we're putting out there in the money that's exchange for that effort. Like there's no value added to that person because there's inaction it kinda sucks. Like when you. Yeah. I mean, we want to create good testimonials we wanna create late success stories. Yeah, of course and we wanna see transformation. And that's where it's cool with this podcast. We actually probably get more feedback than frigging course, which is crazy. And it's all free out there and yeah, it's every single day. You know, there's like floods of emails coming in floods. It let's call it like five to ten is a pretty good average per day. And is people saying, oh, I love this specific episode or my God, you did this episode. You got a new this person. And now here's where all tied into influence or our regional that stuff is that now the bottom of our emails, we have this thing called the dream one hundred again. Thank you, Roland for the idea is like every single Email that either of us send out now that things that Google sheet attachment to the bottom. So now in these people are emailing back. We'll be like, hey, thanks a lot. You know, and whatever correspondence and then they see that and they're like, oh, I saw. Your dream one hundred. Oh, there's a bunch of names, but like there was actually this one person is one gal that I know I'm gonna introduce you guys and then it's like. Like it's just like almost automatic working. Yes. So I mean when it when it comes to the outreach thing, we have a bunch of sort of. I think we tried to make the networking aspect as automated as possible, and the dream one hundred is really like one of those ways. And. It's really powerful. But another way that we've been getting people is pretty much every single time somebody that comes on the show as soon as that it goes, live were sending them an Email, and saying, hey, you're episode is live. Oh, by the way, do you know anybody who'd be a great fit for this show? So that's kind of like the most basic way that we're getting the networking to happen is just that, that outreach and just saying, hey, you know what the show's about now? You've been on it. Who else is a good fit, and then we'll link that dream one hundred in the dream one hundred even jog their minds like all right. Well, here's a little, you know, here's some examples could be really awesome. And then we'll we'll we'll post that dream one hundred all over to, you know, we'll post the dream one hundred on Facebook, and we'll, we'll we'll, we'll share it wherever we can, I think, in, in this month's GP letter I even mentioned the dream one hundred who gets the letter could see who are dream. One hundred is that's awesome. You know, so we try to spread that as much as possible. And it's, it's crazy, like, we'll send an Email this, this didn't actually happen. But, for example, we would send an Email to like our accountant, and just be like. Hey, can you update us on our profit and loss for last month or whatever? And the dream one hundred is automatically appended every Email, we send a link down in the bottom, and that was nuts. I did not think it would do that. I didn't even think about that shows up like an attachment because it's Google thing. Yeah. Out on those emails, one hundred percent it stands out and that was not the intent. I just linked it in in my signature first, and then I saw this happening, I was like, you gotta do this, because it's actually working inadvertently, the people just are curious, and they open it up, and it's crazy. Because like we'll get people in showing us to the dream, one hundred that we would never think would be connected to the people in our dream one hundred right now. That's what I was mentioning, like what the accountant is somehow like the accountant might know, you know, somebody who works over at click funnels that was honored dream, one hundred just for an example. And we're like, well, I would've never thought this connection would have existed but connections exist, where. Or you do not see them. In fact, we had Perry Marshall on the podcast. Remember how we got connected with Perry. Marshall, I do our Shannon ops manager was. I remember that in Chicago working at, like a co working thing with the friend and her friend, new a friend of Perry's his a well respected person. And that friend of Perry's, basically, listen to her stuff listening episodes. It was like holy crap. This is really cool, Perry should be on the show, and then they circled around us and then we schedule that, and then we did some training for Perry for his group. And he's our best friend. Stretch, but he's a buddy. Yes, we could get a hold of it. But we needed to go back to a point. You said is that there's there's gold in. I mean, there's so many connections that you're never going to know who's connected to anyone. But guess what is the stopping point for a lot of people is that they don't ask, they don't put it out there, like there's a long time, where I don't think we were asking for help of the people who we knew are pretty connected. And for some reason, we just had this feeling like we're not gonna we're not going to go out there and ask like, that's bugging them. You never know. And if you don't actually put your foot out there and just ask, and it's to build value early shooting for a win win and building up the best. You know. Yes that you can the most optimize, yes, that's always, like, what we're thinking of is, what's the value? We bring we bring a lot at the podcast. And, you know, I, I don't want to sugar coat things and say that it's like really, really easy to get. Connected with a lot of people and to like network with anybody you ever want to network this what we do now. And the reason we're networked with so many people is, we've been grinding away at this for twelve years now, twelve ten thousand seven twelve years as of this recording. We've been grinding away building, our network, getting to know more and more people just going out putting ourselves out there on events going on other people's podcasts. You name it. We've just been out there doing the, the stuff doing the work in the trenches. Right. So, you know, I don't want to say, like, oh, if you just put your dream one hundred out there, you're all the sudden going to start getting people like everybody on your dream one hundred. I mean, you probably will get some of them. But part of the reason it's worked for us is that we've put in the work, we have put in the time we have put in the, you know, the networking, the face to face at we're at every traffic and conversion we've gone, we used to go to all the underground seminars, whenever, there's any sort of local meet ups in San Diego, where usually at those. We've even like. Heard of local meet ups out in like Austin and flown out to go to other cities, local meet ups, just to get to know people when we heard we heard for example, Noah Kagan was going to be at the internet marketing party that David Gonzales puts on. And that's usually just a local party for just people in Austin. We flew out to Austin, because we're like, well, let's go network with some of these people who we made it a thing too. And I think we hit up a couple of other meet ups that weekend or whenever it was just for like we're there night. And I think we flew back the next day, and, yeah, it's these little interactions. It could just be a dinner with friends dinner with some other marketing friends or entrepreneurs that, you know, anyone that it really doesn't even matter. I think the thing that you probably should takeaways, like just be open with, who you're looking for who, who is this dream guest or this dream connection that you're looking? Maybe it's a partnership or something, and build value. In a Steve Simms was on the podcast. And he's a big fan of making there's a way to make anything you want happen, if he can make like a. A wedding happen where the pope is involved in that wedding. You can make anything frigging happen, but it's all about the network. I mean, we're, I've been. I talked to Ken Craig in that was another contact from Roland. We saw him speak at war room, the other month, and that guy is amazingly connected, but even him he's looking for some connections from us in terms of speaking gigs and whatnot. And that's really cool because there's there's, there's value. We can all add to each other. So it doesn't matter like what how, how successful someone might seem or even how connected they are. There's always some some thing you can add value. And you know, there's there's this exchange that happens, and it's not like it has to be an immediate thing. But if you're helping others out with a connection, Warren likely they're probably gonna help you out some way in vice versa. So just no, it's like a karmic thing you just put it out there and don't be so closed off. But also just ask to ask the question. I mean, like people people will ask questions, like, hey, how did you guys you know, become buddies with? So and so, like, I don't know a great example right now. But, like let's just say, Bruce, we're not. But he's now. Okay. That's right. But let's say let's say David Allen, like how did we get to know David Allen was on our show? Right. And we look back and it's not like, oh, well, we reached out to one person who knew David Allen, and they made a connection. No. Like you have to, like trace it all the way back. Right. Look at all the degrees of how we got connected to him. So we got connected to David Alan because you had a chiropractor who put on an event here in San Diego's name is his name decay. You went to this event, you got to know a guy named Dan Ryan who became good friends with us over time. He's the ultimate lurker. He's the alternate lurker. He's probably listening to this day mad when we don't give them a when we don't mention his name on the podcast. Right. So you got connected to Dan, Ryan. Dan, Ryan knew a guy named Marquesa Kosta Rubio. And Dan had a call with marks at one time. Dan reach out to us and said dude, you guys have to have marks on the show. This guy is legit smart. And you've it'd be great for the show. So we got to know marks we had marks on the show after having marks on the show. We got to talk to him. He actually has been become a mentor of ours and sort of helped steer the direction of our business and through getting to know marks marks David Alan marks made the connection with David Alan. So you want to know how we know David Allen Danny years of fucking history. True man doing grind in the work but it's all related. And that's the thing going back when the flow, man believer of being in the flow, like you've never if you're, if you're trying to orchestrate this perfect path to find this specific person, you might get there, you don't want to, like I don't wanna put that kind of pressure on ourselves. That's why we dream one hundred. There's not a single person that I'm like, really need that person in LA loose, unless it was like that maybe one day we'll, they'll be that person. But you know what? My answer would probably be. And this is what Rolin gave gave us. This insight is they have a fee. I'm sure they have a fee, speaking fees. So like and things we've even offered is like offer to donate to a cause on their behalf something. They believe in. Again value. It's like if they're resistant to just coming on for free, and I'm talking podcast. But like this and be an inny kind of thing in interview, or whatever, in any kind of connection you're trying to do, and, yeah, there's always ways to open the conversation, we podcasting because it's a perfect win win, because exposure, so it's but the networking for us it all comes through this kind of, it's kind of an automated networking because the podcast goes alive twice a week. That's two times a week. We're asking for connections. So it's like almost imagine for you listening. Like what is something that you have? That's a consistent thing that you could just kind of slip in and say, hey, by the way, do you know a client that could or you know, someone in your in your business, or, you know, maybe potential client of mine that can really get value from what I'm doing? You know, if you're trying to sell someone or start a sales conversation or any kind of conversation. Just ask of a connection with the qualities that you're looking for, for us. The podcast is the easiest because that thing it's like the first touch basically. And then from there, we try to establish a good relationship with the follow Brad Spencer's at perfect follow up guy. Like he he was giving me his little follow up routine, where I mean, the, the connections are me in the follow up, if you just give up on that I touch which a lot of people do and I used to do because he said, like we followed like Mojo. I think you said that too. Need at the end of that. Call is like, yeah we do because if you don't follow up, like eighty percent of people probably will never book. I'm actually reading a book right now called the third door by Alex banyan. I was. Magazine. Yeah. To you over the weekend. But that's what he was talking about like is. I mean, the whole book is really about networking and connections. And you know, getting in front of influencers through sort of outside of the box thinking and leveraging your existing network and tying stuff together. Yeah. Really? I mean it's kind of the concept we're talking about now. But definitely highly recommend that book, because that's, that's what he talks about the, and he's had these interviewed Steven Spielberg and Bill Gates and. I'm drawing a blank on some of the other names, but big really pretty people most people have heard of there's so many ways to get that conversation going. And this is a lot of sort of like the back door ways that he got connected with a lot of these Farris was another one that he managed to get intimidators like doesn't do interviews anymore. So really interesting stuff. But just sort of kind of close the loop on the networking thing and sort of shifting to the next topic. But just to kind of like give a quick like high level recap. You know, a we there's obviously, an element, we don't want to downplay this. There's obviously an element of us doing this for a long time, and our network just sort of naturally growing because we're going to networking events. We have been on podcast. We are podcasting. We our guest posting we are going on virtual summits. We do whatever we can to get to know as many people as we can. We can't downplay that if you're not doing that you're probably gonna struggle to build your network. If you're not actively trying other than that we do our dream, one hundred and we pen that to every single Email. So anybody we talked to knows who were trying to connect with we every time we do a podcast, episode or anything where we're working with another person? We're always emailing and following up, like crazy to get them on the other thing is really just have some balls dude, like just like reach out to the people, you're scared to reach out to, like, we don't mean it's not weird just sack up. Whatever whatever the term is that swear, I've heard more women on our show, tell like malls Tak about sacking up and having balls. And I have meant it is true that it's interesting. But, you know, that is a big key element. It's, it's like the hot girl in the room affect. Right. When you're when you're in the bar, there's always the hot girl that standing alone. And then all the like sort of, like fives and sixes. Sorry, I don't mean to be like, sexist misogynist, but I'm trying to paint a picture. It works both ways forever. And you got a hot girl in the room and then you do. The, you know, the more average looking girls and nobody wants to talk to the hot girl in the room because they think that she's unapproachable and unattainable. Right. It's the same thing with, like the podcast. Guests is a lot of the big name guests probably aren't getting asked as often as you'd think. Right. And that's yeah. And typically would more work, or it's like the same effort of work that goes into that outreach that podcast interview in our case then someone that we just asked, you know, within our network. Typically, it's about the same amount of effort. Obviously, there's some anomalies like sometimes you have to go through like a PR person or their agent. It is very rare. It helps to get a, a warm intro. And that's kind of like, why are is to always ask someone that we're talking to the intro is going to be like, and this is something actually bred Spencer told me the other day is like if someone intros you to someone that's like the warmest way you can ever get a connection. And that's your prime opportunity. You to follow up because you have nothing like there's no reason they could be mad of you following up because they are kind of disrespecting the person that introduced you, if they don't respond to you, even if it's a no. And that's okay. But the fact that they just like, totally ignore you and you're not following up bad on you. But if you follow up like three times in different intervals within like a week or two, then kind of bad on them. Obviously, there are circumstances and stuff and it's doubt they're thinking this all the way through. But this just builds the case of why you should follow up is always follow frigging up, especially if someone refers to someone else. So I'm going to share a couple of quick, like ninja tactics for follow up to, and these are sort of like the hackery ways like the sort of like do it. Stay on people's radars targeting. We do a lot of retargeting today. No, right. So one of the things that we do is win. Somebody books to be on our show. We use. Calendar for people to book into our show when somebody goes to the oil to book into our show. We actually re target those people on Facebook. With videos of other podcast episodes. So now anybody who's booked into our show is starting to see us everywhere. And from their perspective. It looks like we're massive podcast and we're spending a lot of money to promote our podcast because they're getting re targeted and seeing our ads. So now, you know, they're thinking they're going on a huge podcast who spends a lot of money on advertising and shows you that we actually know our shit, too, and we're going to get their message distributed everywhere. Yeah, that's the idea to. It's like, hey yeah. Just know that we got your back, you know, there's going to be a good win win because they're gonna get retargeted, even if they don't book in still gonna see us and probably be like shit. Yeah, I probably should really with these confirmation of our of like how we promote the show. They'll go, oh, these guys must get some traffic because they're actively out there promoting, and we do the same thing if somebody of us are dream one hundred now. So he goes to a dream one hundred. I don't know if you've swapped out the Lincoln, you're. In your Email footer yet. But if somebody goes to our dream one hundred GAO actually re target the people who've you are dream one hundred is well note for that right now. Yeah. Talking. When somebody joins us on a zoom call when we're just getting on a call with somebody. That's like, hey, I want to pick your brain or hey, I want to go on the show. But you know, let's kind of chat and pre planet. Anybody that goes and views a chat with zoom re-target those people with better podcast, too. So anybody who interacts with us, even seemingly off of Facebook or off of our podcast starts getting re targeted by all of our podcast stuff, so we're doing some ninja stuff there. And this is a tactic that I learned from from Kurt Molly hopefully he doesn't mind that I'm sharing it, but he taught me to make a list of called the get to know list. And what the get to know list is, is a spreadsheet that you create with anybody that you want to be on their radar. So this could be big name people. This could be just people in your industry. This could be potential clients. Just make a spreadsheet of people that you want to get to know, and then do what you can to try to figure out their Email address. You know, some of your guests there sites out there. I don't remember the exact sites, but there sites out there where you can try to find people's Email addresses use a full contact is a plug in, I think, in g mail that you, can, you can see, like what's social media counter societas with Email? I guess I wouldn't work the other way. Yeah, there's, there's probably some tools out there that help you get emails. I don't remember the name, but basically, you create a spreadsheet of kind of like your dream, one hundred but it's like you get to know listen, maybe not the dream one hundred. Maybe it's like you're get to know five hundred your dream, one hundred hundreds probably included in that list. But then also a bunch of other people like potential clients and stuff. You upload that is a custom audience on Facebook, and you constantly run ads to that, like, get to know list as well, and that's another way to start putting yourself on people's radars. And if you kind of get people's Email addresses than you just kind of update that list from time to time, so more and more of the people, who you want to influence, start to see your ads. And so those. Kind of some of the ways that we're actually leveraging re-targeting to even better like amplify our networking strategies. Yeah. So it's a and it doesn't take much targeting, like that is so damn easy to set up an it's almost just set in forget it at a super small budget because it's tiny amount of people that you're actually showing it to so pretty cool. All right. So no working. There's a lot of cool stuff. We're always refining that. But definitely, yeah, the third door sounds like a perfect book for that Steve Simms. Just check him out his podcast episode with us, and he has a book called blue fishing. That's really good and talks about just getting out of your own way out of your own head because I think that's probably like, eighty percent of the problem for those people is just stop over thinking it and just ask a little different. You know, add some value, and then the dream one hundred thing like it's in ten here, Email footer to or your signature shared, everywhere, shared social media. Yeah. Be public about it. There's nothing to be ashamed of like if you're. Go for someone. Like I think we have Jay z on there. We even have a we have all sorts of people on our dream. One hundred includes Ellen Degeneres Winfrey. Jay Z, Elon Musk, Richard Bryan. I mean put them on there, who knows who's connected. You never know never know. So, and even better, actually, we should probably do this is like we can have a little Lincoln there. It's like here's a little swipe of the ways that you can introduce us like how to introduce us or what we're willing to do like pay speaker fee or donate on their behalf. There's other ways that we can optimize this. It's still early days. You'll report back, one more thing to this is just a real quick, like add on is we send them cool stuff in the mail to when we when somebody bland to our show. We actually collect their address on calendar. Lisa. What do you wanna talk about? What your what your headshot? Oh, by the way. What's your address? And right below it I put a little disclaimer saying, we'd like to send thank you gifts to our guests. And so we get our guests address, and we send up shirts, we sent him notebooks. We send the mugs, you know, we're always constantly. Essentially, we're building a direct mail list of influencers in our market. But what we're doing with those that list is we're actually sending him. Cool stuff to always stay top of mind with them. Prime example is I got an Email today from a listener, Mike, I think you're probably listening, and we sent him a shirt. I don't know exactly why the top of my head, but he got his shirt because he's cool. And we love Mike. Of course. That's why I got a shirt, not everyone gets a shirt. Thank you, Mike. But he turned around in. And was introducing us to Simon cynic and unfortunately Simon's cynics writing a book right now, totally cool, and I get it. He's a no right now. But just for now but that was just an example of a really cool thing that someone did that's listening to our show. We sent him a shirt and, and he went around. He looked at the dream, one hundred actually and then he just on his own behalf reached out super frigging, cool. And like we didn't ask for it directly. But we put everything in motion to get the our get the I guess, the ask just this morning. I actually placed an order for forty more shirts that are all going out to people that you guests fans of the show, all sorts of cool, people are going to be getting shirts in the next couple of weeks here. So it's pretty cool. Yeah. Oh, shoot. There was actually something else who would've thought we could have this much about, like networking and getting to know people because it's what I think about all day, and I feel like you do too. That's true. Inadvertently, you do it in different. You see, it's approaching it through, you know, the, the hacker way the automations the retargeting or I'm out there sending the emails. I'm like, how do I growth hacker network? Joe's like just go talk to people can get a little bit more than that. But yes, that's the simplified version of what's happened is. I'm trying to figure out the back door hacks to get to know people and you're kind of more of the boots on the ground. Just connecting with everybody. We did get it's true, but it's a perfect cover and even said, at the other day, said it a few times recently, I think you'll like it wasn't for Joe. I wanna know anybody, but I know if it wasn't for Matt, this follow up stuff would not nearly as effective at all of it all be manual. 'cause that's how I'm thinking that totally different way for Matt. But that's a it's just how we work and in this crazy, not a shadow for we work, shut off where we work, although we're going to be we work on Wednesday. But cool. All right. So all right. Is that a bowed wrapped around this topic, I had another thing, but maybe it will come whatever it always comes back. So the newsletter GP letter. Yes, this frigging coal. And this is a rebirth of a previous newsletter. We had a year ago or two, and just in case you're listening to this and going I need to have that it's at GP letter dot com. I'm not how am I not gonna dot com? Slash going there. You know, slash just AGP letter dot com. Just go there, take it out easy. It's easy is a low price too. So do you want me to explain it or do you want to explain the a high level? Overview, sure. All start, basically, these are, I would say that they're like perfect action guy to kind of set it at the head of it. Head of this podcast is that we did the work to take the notes, which are the companions that you can get for free for a limited period of time. But if you go to GP letter dot com, you'll actually get become a subscriber to get the stuff sent to you in the mail where it's a compiled big document monthly of all the action points from every single interviewee did. Plus some other cool bonuses in goodies? Yeah. 'cause we that's just the physical aspect of it. There's more than. Yeah. No. So the when you sign up to be the GP letter E's, UP letter, member, we send you the newsletter in the mail every month and we'd like print I personally like print books. I like to feel it. I like to write. I like to highlight and like rub his beard with ROY. It on my beard, and we'd says it makes it soft, but it makes it makes green when I'm starting a fire, no don't you ever let letter? No. But though, we actually send a physical print newsletter. And it's basically like Joe said, it's all the companions from every episode. You get them every month, but the companions as, as you probably well aware by now, the companions disappear. So the episode goes live, you can get that companion. It's available for I think a week and a half is what it set out. Right. So it's a favorable for a handful of days after the episode it goes live, and then you can't get them anymore. And so what we've done is we've taken all of those in every month. We're, we're mailing all of those companions to people in a packet with the notes. But you're also getting access to that entire archive, all the backlogs all of our previous notes all of our previous, companions. And then we do some cool training as well. So we actually bring in guests from our podcast who have really cool shit. They taught us, and we're like, hey, can you make a video and teach that again on video, and we'll share that kind of stuff in the forum and there's a forum a community and there's a community community forum? Where we get him a few times a week and interact with everybody and answer questions. And those cool things that were focused on more therapy, e type things like this stuff that's catching our attention. Yeah. That's kind of the place where it lives, all the, the what's up. We'll latest. And that's instead of like a big info product type thing we felt like this newsletter is perfect extension of this show right here. So people listening. I mean, it's honestly the easiest way to stay in the know if you don't feel like there's no no problem in this. But like you don't listen every episode that's cool. Like we want to get the info to you. However, we can and as into it is the best form for you, then tune into the podcast every a couple times a week. If reading is the best form for you. Download the companion and make sure your subscribe to the newsletter if getting in seeing videos is the best for you, make sure your subscribed because are a lot of our guests actually go in and make to to'real videos on how a lot of this stuff works. And I guess the logical next question for people would be like, well, if I can get the companions for free over here when that goes live, and I can also listen to the audio for free on the podcast at any time. What's the benefit of becoming a subscriber of the GP letter? Well, there's a lot of benefits. What are yours, so? So. So in the GP letter, it's not just purely curated content from the episodes. So the I always write a sort of lead into it about what's going on, in our business and, and what you can expect from this letter and there's there's some unique content in the beginning. But at the end of the letter I do what do we call that section? And it's like a it's kind of what's happening as they call it like inside, evergreen, profits, or something like. It's still kind of a fresher thing that we're optimizing. Yeah. And so two point oh at the end of the newsletter. The last handful of pages is like, here's all the cool shit. We're experimenting with. So right now, for instance, we're experimenting with read it we're experimenting with Cora. We're experimenting with spinoff, podcasts we're examining with doing more stuff in like the advisory world, and inviting other companies where we're experimenting with various paid traffic sources, we're constantly constantly testing stuff and the last several pages of the newsletter is my sort of dive into like, here's all the cool stuff. We're playing with right now and here's kind of the results were getting. And that's like, that's where you could get behind the scenes of what we're doing. But then also the notes themselves. They're not exactly the same companions that you get inside the site. They're kind of optimized companion. They're more of an action guide. Really, like they're like, here, the big takeaways from the episodes, and they're, they're going to have a little bit of commentary from us where where needed, and we are optimizing this further like I was saying this is. It's still the early days for this specific newsletter. Hints, why the price is so dang Jeep. And hopefully when you listen to this, it's still really cheap so good Leonard dot com, get a cheap, but the ideas that we want to make this, not a hey, let's read every single frigging bullet point that we can think from this episode, but we actually hired a solid note taker and, and he's gone to like the traffic diversion summit, remember, they used to there used to be somebody who would take notes on all the summits and actually sell them to you for like fifty bucks or whatever. Then you can buy all the notes for the entire traffic and conversion summit, we actually hired the same note, takers took dotes for, for. Yeah. For that. Exactly. So these are proficient notes there. Well organized, and they're very clear, and they're, they're basically pulling out all these, these frigging nuggets. And then now what we do is, we have some editors help us organize this stuff. Her name sue shout out to sue. That's she's listening right now is thank you. Sue you rock and the ad. These new. I mean it's, it's, it's a lot of content, but the same time the ideas and to go through every single page, there's no need for it. The idea is to give you kind of a high level and give you the action things that you gotta know to actually implement implement some of this stuff. And these are coming from straight from the mouth of a lot of these people were bringing on the podcast and in our buddies outside of the podcast like said, Matt, you're putting in other insights. We're adding in little, little insert tape things that grow the value, and give some more content you're outside of the newsletter. Our July issue the issue, that'll be coming out next month. You know, it's going to have some names in it, too. I mean you got we've got content in there from Ryan Deiss from Ryan Leveque from Todd Herman Steve, Zik coups. Mitch yes, Steve Simms. I mean like big players in the marketing, entrepreneurial world. We're getting like their tactics their takeaways, their strategies their favorite resources, and we're combining them all into a little thing, a great example, if you ever read tools of titans by Tim Ferriss, have I already knew the answer that question before I asked it. Yes. Tools of titans is essentially, he took all of his podcast episodes over the years all the best bits of wisdom and resources, and tools and stuff. And he put them all into a giant book. We're essentially doing the same thing, but instead of sending you a seven hundred page book, we're sending you a thirty page like mini book every month of just last month episodes. It's now, think about this as like if you were to use this as your own product. I mean, just think about how like how this is such a perfect kind of product. For most businesses is. The fact that, like more people pay attention to physical mail anyway, because what else are you getting in physical mill? Oh, you're getting a bunch of ads and credit card offers that you're tired of. So this is actually a package that you receive it's special kind of breaks all the clutter in it, actually looks, you know, something premium which it is. And the it's a good way to kind of get through the noise and going back to actually to networking, one of our strategies which we've used in the past, I don't know, if he did it this run, but we'll actually send out some of these letters to people who have been on our show, especially if they're mentioned in the actual newsletter. But it's also a way to break through, and maybe send someone if we have their, their physical mail address to get on their radar. It's just a perfect little a unique thing enough that looks valuable and is valuable that people will open it will respond to it. And we've done that in the past we used to actually do that as a marketing tool. Is actually package up this newsletter. Say, hey, we thought you would really like this. And what do you know people like that? And then they actually respond, especially if like maybe lost touch with this person, or some of them are even posted on social media them holding up the GP letter going look what I just got in the mail, and they didn't some big influencers would do that. We'd get a little boost and more subscriptions to the newsletter from it. Yeah. Listening, like maybe you don't want to do a newsletter because I don't know. Maybe you just don't have the business set up for that, even though I think he should since something in the mail, and that was actually something, Steve Simms said, a lot is like he's a big proponent of sending his client stuff in physical mail. Even if it is just like you scribbling with a sharpie on a magazine that you've made you think of that client and then you say, like, hey, let's keep it. Let's, let's chat in this coming month or something like he'll give all these examples and he just sends out in the mail instead of sending an Email, and it's just the effectiveness it's different cuts through all the clutter. I think that's the big thing that we like about this is that it's a whole new marketing channel. So if you could think of just physical mail, there is a lot of people are there's, there's a lot of databases out there who have very targeted customers. So if we wanted to we could probably, you know, to grow this thing, further, go find some mail. Lists that are out there that we can rent a space pay the CPM's whatever they are to kind of like market this thing. Physical. It's kind of, like Email this, there's just another bucket of people actually pay attention to. Yeah. And people aren't paying attention to emails much these days. It's true. So, yeah, I mean, the, the newsletter concept we love it because it's. I mean, let's be honest. Here's what we're trying to get to in our business. We're trying to get to a point where you and I get to focus on podcasting. Interviewing great people continuing to grow our network, so that we can continue to get great people on the podcast and we just wanna focus on that. If we can get to a point where all we have to focus on networking and having great conversations and then the rest of the stuff just kind of happens. That's our ideal business model. And that's where the newsletter is such an amazing tool and asset for our business is because it allows us to repurpose content that we're creating anyway, into another medium is a medium that some people prefer over listening to audio totally. And so now we're able to get content in front of people through audio these videos get or these podcasts. Get repurpose into video on podcast on YouTube, these audios get re purposed into a digital version of the companion, which goes live for a limited period of time before it gets pulled down. And then they get re purposed into a print form where we actually mail it to you. And you can highlight it and right in the notes, and do all the cool stuff you would do with a. Print a printed book. Right. So it really is sort of the ideal monetization strategy for our podcast is to get a lot of these people. A lot of these guests. Another form through exposure on our newsletter. And the idea is that it's, it's going back to the foundation said at the top of this. It's the podcast affiliate marketing in the newsletter all that stuff's tied in together because with that newsletter it's all derived from the podcast and some other happenings that are, you know that are just updates from from us that we add in there. But then there's the affiliate marketing, that's just another way that we can monetize the actual newsletter. It's another way to extend how are reached with affiliate offers? It's obviously a sponsorship opportunity as well which then parlays the podcast as well and other places banner ads. So if you think about it as a media platform, it's an extension of that platform, and that's exactly what we're doing. So we can focus on podcasting. Advising in the podcasting space, and do another cool projects in the podcasting space for sure one hundred percents. It's fun. And we want to get one in your hand. Ends so go to GP letter dot com. I feel like you're hanging. I want this to feel like the second half. This episode was a pitch. I wanted you to understand why why we did the GP letter. But at the same time, I'm gonna pitch the GP letters to go GP, litter dot com and make sure you get on it. You can actually see exactly. We're talking about you ruthless conditioning for this episode is well, hustle and flow. Chart dot com slash comp depending on when you're hearing this, you should be able to get the companion for this for free. For a limited time, if you didn't get in within that window, then make sure yet grab the newsletter. So just let's just wrap it up. It's like what's, what's like a big that you had this last month, or, I guess, since we've had this therapy session like what's a big leg. Have you had any breakthroughs? Probably align trying to think of a specific one go, why did you have one in mind that you hear? That'd like fuzzy. I think a big breakthrough for me is, honestly, the networking, that we were doing that, like the dream went hundreds of big one and actually following up, like consistently after someone recommends someone to another. Well, we Ajan Ashraf actually, he's going to be in the next issue. That's a name that we didn't mention it will be in the June June issue yet. So John Ashraf is he's just he's just amazing. He does a lot of stuff in the brain space neuro. And he mentioned use squared the book. And I read that twice now it's only like thirty five pages. So it's something I'm actually reading a pager to you out every single day that thing, really, I feel like it was a breakthrough for me because it takes you away from linear thinking, where you have to map out, every little point along the path, you know, if you have like this goal to this exponential thinking, and it's taking quantum physics indoor. It doesn't get all science, but it's basically relating it to quantum physics in that it's not a linear path to whatever result. There's, you know, it's basically there's you can't connect the dots with quantum physics. And that's pretty much what it's saying with exponential growth. Non linear growth, if you're thinking of like dealmaking, Rev shares in doing something radically different like the way that we tie podcasting, the newsletters like that is not a common thing even podcast to affiliate work found is not that common and then we take it to print. That's totally different. And it's this different way of thinking, so you squared for me. I felt like it. Got me out of my shit a little bit in my comfort space. Because we a big thing, I think, is, is knowing where we're headed like we now have a very defined money goal and by win goal and without that because I felt like we were going to declare it publicly are you gonna keep it a secret for, and that's a million and three to five years? Okay. Okay, good. That's, that's it. You said it. So I guess that's good. Good for you. Your business partner? Do you agree, Matt? If I if I if I didn't edit this out. Okay, I guess we'll see. I'm committed all declared Matt's. Not know we're committed. I think I think my biggest takeaways is probably something that would be hard to explain on the podcast because it's not your takeaways tend to be a little more like philosophical might take aways tend to be more like holy shit. That's new tactic, too. Like is working. Right. We have different brands and then I'm most excited about right now is podcast retargeting trying to, and I'm talking about specifically podcast. Retargeting from people listening to the audio the podcast. Now I can't really get into how that's going to happen. But that's what I'm excited about right now. True. I am as well. I mean, there's a lot of there's a lot of technical details behind the scenes that are like. You know, put it this way, it was a major major breakthrough for me. When I experiment with some of this stuff and went holy shit. It works, and that was my major breakthrough this month was all like my mind just sort of exploded with possibilities of how I can leverage this. But since I can't really get into too much, depth there, I'll give you another one. The concept of creating podcasts around fucking anything. Yeah, let's rattle some of those I think you're like the best coming up at podcast ideas, especially for people who don't need to podcast every single day or want to. Yeah. So when you know, one of the things around podcasting that I don't think people quite grasp, is it, it's just another content form. So, you know, everybody talks about, like creating FAQ's on your blog and answering common questions around your product on your blog extend that the podcast if you've got an FAQ already create a podcast, where every single episode is a different question with an answer, and just release those episodes with a call to action at the end and what that'll do is. Is that will put you your product and your content into many more places. Now, your product is on Spotify. There's conversations about your product on Spotify on, I tunes on Google play on overcast on. Tune in on iheartradio. The list goes on and on, of all the places you get podcasts. And now because you created an FAQ podcast where you answer questions about your podcast. Now, these are available everywhere. And if you don't have an FAQ already, this is the best way to make an FAQ. Don't write an FAQ talking make a list of the thirty most common questions in your business. Well, frequently asked questions and shoot ask questions. Right. Yes. So frequently asked questions and essay is well, that's a, that's a Mike canings making so you want your FAQ's and your cues make about thirty of them and just hit record and. You know, state the question, and then state the response that's the end of a five minute episodes. Yeah. And then just do that for thirty of them, and then get into a podcast host. You can host a podcast on anchor for free. Probably how I would start my loan. Go. They're going to anchor start a podcast for free, and then just drip out, these episodes, one a day for thirty days. You don't need to stay consistent with it. You're just trying to gain some of the algorithm, some of the surgeons a little bit in speaking of search engines, Google is about to start ranking podcast and all the while they already are ringing podcasts, but ranking or using the actual transcript, so they're using their beautiful AI that's taking over the world. And they're now going to podcasting. They're not quite live with this yet, but we're tapped in with the pod news on everything, and they are legitimately starting to now look at a kind of, like they do with YouTube videos, they transcribe, it automatically back in so they can rank based on audio content and spoken word. So you'd think you'd be important to actually have a presence on the medium, even if it's just an FAQ. Yes. And if you want to take it a step further and kind of help Google along right now transcribe it use it to like designer and get the transcription of it and throw the description up on that on a blog. Post as well. And now you've got the audio version, and all these audio platforms. And you've got a blog where you're the transcript of all of your FAQ questions is being answered, and you don't really have to type word the entire process is I unders- pretty amazing day for that kinda stuff. So, you know, that's something that, that's sort of exciting in, in the works that we're working with some potential clients that we advise as well on this, cool stuff, man. So, yeah, the podcasting space Sola just put it out there. Our mission is to really bridge, the gap between digital marketing. So all the stuff that we talk about a lot here and the medium of podcasting and two problems. There's two problem. Yes. Right discovery when you have a new podcast, getting that podcast discovered by the right listener and monetization, once people have a podcast, how do I make money off of it, the discovery element? I think we've sort of cracked that nut rattling. We've really kind of figured out how to grow podcast really fricken fast, the monetization part is the harder nut to crack and that's where we're really, really putting a lot of time energy. That's where are indeed budget is going right now is really out the monetization of podcasts so that we can go and help other companies who have podcasts monetize to a much greater degree than what they're doing now. We've cracked that nut to a degree. We figured out a few little things that you can do things like what you talked about, on the show, newsletters affiliate marketing, and things like that. We also we're experimenting more with things like re-targeting, and like, voice recognition within podcasts, and some cool shit like that shutout to Richie. Oh, Tae, who's been talking to us a lot about voice. Podcasting and stuff. Yeah, there's exciting stuff and this whole space. It's changing literally every single day. So it's like we're up with the news, and then we're like testing immediately because we want to be the first out there to kind of make some moves, and it's, it's working. So you'll hear more as we learn it here more. So if you want to get on the newsletter again, I'll just wrap it up with a few calls to action here. If you want to get on the newsletter, go to GP letter. Dot com. That's where you can sign up and just become a paid subscriber to the newsletter the community forum, all the training all the back issues, and it's, it's very inexpensive. Yeah, just go there. 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Episode 37 Bunny Ryan Taylor Checks in

BunnyRanch Podcast

33:52 min | 7 months ago

Episode 37 Bunny Ryan Taylor Checks in

"Stati DI if it ain't going down at the bunny ranch it ain't going down at all. It's going to be all right. I think I've connected to transmissions on earth. Hello Oh there's an earthling there. Oh Hey it's Ryan Taylor from the Bunny ranch a Ryan. I'm coming from you. Well well humping bunny one space station. So you know yeah. Let me get these masks off. You know just because we're up in space you know they're still social distancing and you know we don't. WanNa take the chance that some like person or creature or palate or whatever has some kind of like Cova or who knows space bugs you. You can't beat you save exactly well. If you don't know Ryan Taylor is. You definitely should because you know her. Calculations got us into space with her Quantum Physics I. I think I got that right this time. Yeah so Ryan what so. What have you been doing down there? You know what what during these crazy shutdown ovid craziness? What exactly have you been doing? I been behaving totally. I've been practicing social distancing And like to the extreme like I have I have totally lie self isolated when it all happened in wearing the homeowner. I didn't like I was like fourteen days for sure by winning symptoms like I ended up doing it was like twenty four days before I left my house. I had the grocery store so I just. I'm super practicing social distancing. I mean also I have asthma. I really bad like adult has myself. I'm considered at higher risk in everything and I just like I care about the world and I wouldn't want to endanger someone as matic or anything so I've been trying to keep in my house. I mean there's only so many times you can clean the same thing or buy new clothes and throw away clothes you know before we run out of money and clothes. I know I'm like I I started you know we were like okay like two weeks. I was totally on my shopping and then two weeks turned into four kids. And now we're not just extended stay at home order like the a but I'm sure you'll get Michelle against us like a pretty The governor of Nevada is supposed to talk. I think today or tomorrow but he already said he's going to extend Nevada's stay at home so yeah he already said he's GonNa go via email and I'm just like hey guys with what we do. It's there's no such `social distancing. It's like as close contact issue. It's going to be one of the last two open you know for safety reasons. And that's okay. I'm I'm fine with that. I think we need to care about is not just about me as everyone exactly safety of like you know populations in general why for fact. We've scrubbed all the buildings in throughout the company. We've made sure everything under the Sun. We've gone through dramatic cleanings. We'VE UPDATED ALL. The computers changed out a lot of electronics Brand new security cameras for the Bunny Ranch Yeah Times. Oh Yeah you're You're on the phone. When we were down yeah and yeah they were clean and deep cleaning with JEB. Have their for those who don't know like we have the full gym facility for the girls to work out over there so they relate deep cleaning and disinfecting that like I feel like we're GonNa get there and it's going to be scrubbed because you guys have so much time to look brand new. You know what I mean. Well I mean Even there there's GonNa be some small remodels and things like that throughout all the company. So you're gonna see that matic and especially to match like different things for Cova because we're GonNa make sure that everyone is safe madame Suzanne. I have been going through finding different. basically Like medical supplies and stuff like that L. Help us with our jobs and make everyone safe even after you know everything is reopened and done. We're going to ensure that everyone is taking care of regardless because we take care of everyone around. Yeah we're GONNA hopefully within six months frame have like a vaccine boring it and we we now know like saver precautions and things to do. But we're going to have to implement those down row anew in fact sheds diseases like out. Well I I heard I heard some sad news and then good news about you though I heard that Unfortunately your pets have died. Passed on and something about you. Got A lot more. Yes okay so for those. Who Don't know anyone who follows me like ranch. I got twitter. I that the two rats I had rowdy. Roddy Piper and Macho Man Randy savage unfortunately passed away. They were older and they just developed sort of pneumonia. And it's really contagious. Within rotates to each other so both passed away but I worked avenue using high tax the rest of the year and yesterday. I last minute crawl about these three little babies that need to be adopted and so I was like I totally free right now and then when I was there and trying on. They had mentioned. They got me surrenders. The two older girls. Nobody wanted because they're over. Two Rats live to be about And is like well. I'll take up so now I have five routes for those giant like it's a very double decker. Barrett comfortably. Billy ten to fifteen rats. I have like the five in there right now so too old ladies three babies the big generally three months older so he'll just got them last night. Which is why things are recorded today instead. Sorry guys falls on me but again anybody knows knows like animal. Rescue is top priority of my life. I don't know when you said you needed an extra time I figured. Hey there's a lot of people staying at home. They could wait an extra day just to hear and see. I mean especially the Beautiful Ryan Taylor and to see all of our greatness of the bunny ranch but what. What are the names though? Because you didn't see the names for those are now. I had mice throughout this year and they all had little lake vegetables. So I kind of stuck with that with renaming. These BABIES UP ZANDT hot names. One had a name. It worked out perfect one of the things Angeles Cherry so of the three babies. I now have Cherry Berry in raising and the older girls are Kiwi. And Tangerine okay. That'll be nice. I am sure. And you're GonNa Post pitchers today tomorrow when you wrote. Is You have to give them roughly two days without handling that just like in their new hall. Oh okay to figure out like nervous sometimes but all the girls. I have are so sweet when I went to go pick him up. I was kind of handling. I opened the cage rain and the older girl just jumped out on me and like snuggled into my nags. So they're gonNA be sweet as soon as I'm able to really be handling nominate you'll call all have tons of pictures posted. Of course anyone who knows me knows I would rather post pictures of my dogs like my pets myself. Yeah so besides online shopping. Which you know. There's plenty of shopping do everywhere. I have to control myself because I'll see something it'd be like. Oh wait. I'm not making not doing as much as I used to. Not doing all this so I have to crew so I'll be like where am I going to wear this? Where am I going to do? I like you'll enjoy wearing by Reyna but like they're all currently cancel. Where you don't don't remind me you know I already a- already out my refund for some for other shows so refund hopefully obviously. It's four looking forward to something like this is kind of like. I tell I reminded it's okay to be sad about the things that are. Va Title. Ix screwed up. They are looking forward to or planning like you know like I host rollerskating parties. They're all on hold. You know like there's thing that I would love to be. I would love to be at the body ranch. I would love to be at the beach but yeah I know normally the right right about this time in the next week. I'd be preparing to go on vacation because I go on vacation every year to go to Vegas now going to be digital so it's GonNa have multiple stages like that they've been doing digital raves. Every weekend celebrating all their shows and then they're doing a three day digital EDC with multiple stages because he's been flying people into their studios in L. A. and doing performance is just for himself so the owner Pascal. Any dresses up in crazy outfits for each show literally dances around then by himself. You know or with aliens or whatever else he has around. Yeah I mean at least I do enjoy getting creative ways to still experience. Yeah no and I mean it definitely makes a huge difference though Are you doing anything to stay healthier? You just lounging around snacking cleaning. Shopping playing with rats. Going to transcribe this. I swear right bye-bye like what am I? I like shopping's bought a yoga and my closest girlfriends night group. There's five of us who are like superclubs clubs where I live. And we're like we're GONNA do like skype and zoom sessions and we're all going together no not once. I haven't even like unwrapped my yoga cheese and I feel like now I probably will take get like it's hard like the world is in a pandemic like you're allowed to be like sad. Relax take this time to do it. You can dissolve carousel without being sad. Normally I'm pretty on top of you. Know my physical appearance you know working at the Bunny Ranch Move Working Life Hustler and stuff. If feels really really nice to like not wear makeup every day as he's not done my hair dye feels good but I am starting a little surveys without some sort of physical me to never thought it would say like I miss the things I yeah I know I mean Like I said in the last few episodes of this to you know it's different when you don't hear the same sounds even around our company because like a lot of the hallways. There's I mean there really is no one here so walking around the bunny ranch. Normally you're always gonNA hear people walking up and down halls so now we have a bunch of ghosts and we're hearing noises and no lie on. What was it Monday? Think knows last week my door open to my office. Shut my door the handle jiggled and and there's no one out and the closest person to me is three buildings away in the in in there so of course as soon as that happened beamed right back up to space and said screw that But I think there's no ghosts in space or if they are floating away from me so you know there there's that and there's a lot of activity because there's no normally we wouldn't see it all because there's tons of people here and the building constantly moving people around everywhere but but You Know Yoga Wise. That's cool you know I I could see you doing it. You know might be later in the day. Yoga thing young person. Anyone who knows me knows that when I'm at the ranch late you have to be pretty extraordinary for me to have an appointment with me before like two PM. I'm just I'm not there were like I am because my sleep schedule very strange. Stay up all night naturally out so but I guess I could do yoga at home. Hopefully I'll get into it. I don't know but I have just been like snacking and munching and watching. I really like big by documentary. Like I've just been like I've been living my life six-year-olds upstream like sitting at home eating no responsibilities like I check my email. You know what I mean. And which even then I feel about sending out these generic responses like. Hey guys. I don't have any more information than you do. I can't book anything deposits all. It's you know what I know like. Obviously as of right now like all my dates have been cancelled. Everything will be readjusted. And it's so funny right before all this happened like a week and a half I was like. Oh you know what's ringing? I'm going to do something about hairs. Lighten my hair by Paul this blond in it and now I can't get it died and he's like I know my own eyebrows. I went along now. Have Nonni these little stubs? Which company Andy? Because I still have access to my art studio. Because they're all individual so we can go to them at with painting or framing bags or stretching campus. Not Now but I just want to be like my little doll prissy solve again why I mean maybe you just need to do it one day just just for yourself right. Just go out there. I mean there's ways around it I mean who knows you already pluck your eyebrows. I mean that's the hardest part of it right. Oh my gosh. I know that I have eyebrows because I like them not like they do. I get the wax every two weeks. They are ambushed. And so this is like oh my gosh seven hundred hairs a day. It's Kinda Nice also like just wear like whatever weird like because I do mess dressing up. Can't lie. I do stressing out by Whiz. Wear like my cute little outfits at the ranch. You know it's like are obviously my office. We were wearing public. Generally but I like everything about it which I think you're wearing when I saw that we have new money red shirts. Yeah actually they were all. I went and design them all for spring. Obviously the launch happened and then what two weeks later after we launched all the clothing line. Unfortunately you know the Kovic hit pretty hard around. The area is so but you can get it at store dot. Bunny ranch DOT com. It'll be scrolling through down to the bottom two but It's really cool because there's Seven different colors and you can get them online. So we'll ship all the way around the United States And Stay tuned because after you hear this episode probably sometime in probably Friday. I think Friday. There's going to be different sales running in different bundles. And all these things. So yeah I mean I know you have bunny ranch gear somewhere. I've seen where the pink outfits and things so I love this so I'm like the black all the time but I honestly I love the slight soup because teradata like its nose law and you can wear snow boots and they like the legs like why not to go over to still accu- you're so but oh yeah. I have tons of here and I have like the little tank top like tank tops but I love mastel nothing about to check out definitely and I mean the small actually does fit on your size so so a lot of the small sizes because they're Unisex they're actually designed it both men and women that's what Unisex means people so. Yeah so that way. It actually helps. We're not ordering like things that are super tiny for really tiny girls that don't fit any people except for like three people so we're trying to be more style houses. Yeah because I mean there's a lot of even a bunny girls that extra small and small are even some of the old school like Bunny ranch gear. It says at large and extra large and that thing it doesn't fit I I saw it Tiara. Put It on once One of the extra large. Is it really old school one? And she's like I don't know how people and she's very skinny so yes. There was one time I put on like a media when I was like. This is GonNa be huge on me because I do wear and it was like too tight on like my boobs unlike It was so tight in the arm. I was like what are you well. Let's let's let's let's segue into something else you know We talked about health we talked about. I mean technically the crooked crypt heads might have been On the last recording. That didn't actually go through. I apologize for everyone who don't know where we're talking about She wants to go hunt. Bigfoot there is a video game out there. I believe it's called big big hunter. Maybe we'll both get it and we'll play. We'll play online and stream it go. We'll do streaming of bunny girls from all over the country playing video games there. We Go Internet platform. We're moving. We're we're going to twitter. We're going to do our own concerts and shows but as far as sexual health goes. Are you doing to keep yourself descended sexual health I mean? Are you playing with new toys toys with you on your little adventures back home? I of course at home have like a nightstand. Stock below toy. I mean you knows you knows a sex worker for over a decade now so I have more than I honestly know what I mean. Obviously practising practising actual guy I've got I've been working with out of it Even bits on getting some new stuff that trying because exploit their always developing in good standing out learn things being developed. But I've totally been doing my their share. But no matter how much like self actual hair you do eh cannot replace physical constantly. Yeah yeah definitely. There's there's a difference seen a real person and so or even a sex doll. You know they they look pretty real. I got to see them up close. You know. It's still not the same as a real physical being moving and talking to you and I have a good time was joking in all these couples are gonNA break up or whatever after Corentin and I'm like I haven't been near another person and now it's probably close to six weeks. Jeez yeah I feel you there. I mean I haven't been around anyone sense really. This whole thing started besides the couple people I see once in a while but even then I go to grocery stores if I need to sometimes I have to just go out of the house but I wear a mask all the time constantly. You know sanitizing washing my hands like a thousand different times so But I did. I wash my hands a thousand different times before. Even this started. Because if anyone doesn't know me you know I work in a brothel. I always washed. My hands not changed now like the like. You're showering all day. Your wash your hands all day. You're like not touching things you're already cleaning stop. The law like such a clean environment exactly. Nothing is changing in that. No and yeah I mean. There's only so many sex toys that I can even play with. That are GonNa even more fun and I even like you know. I started looking at like those. Vr headsets and those are kind of boring. It's nothing's really that fun even if we're video games I'm like Oh this is dumb. Waste of money that I did wall. It's like especially like with human contact. It's more than justice. Actual parties like the ROB will. It's a houseful of girl than you're at you know we're working with all four houses so it's like you are constantly having human interaction whether it's A. Hey James How's your day a little hug? Thank you hand and then for us like we're having intimate relations with these people. We connect with and so it's like I can't even like normally when I'm there like although busted like pants hairs room in dump on her bed in annoy her and be like. What are you delay like you know? And it's I can't even do that like girls. Don't even have workout partners. I used to have a routine together. Like buys like I'm telling you what we're all allowed back there. We're going to be so just starved sexually deprived sexually deprived. Just everything like the emotional. The physical the mental connection. Like like I know I feel it. I mean I you know I go home and I'm like I live alone and I'm like oh I used to have a roommate I walk in. I'm like Oh yeah there's no one here so I'm like yeah I'm like you know and then I'll start like watching. Tv and then like all talk to people but It's it's the same old sexually and regular as well for anyone. You know human contact and human talking in physically there. Some people may not like people around but it is a good thing you know. And that's what makes like our company so great To actually take care of all that kind of stuff because you're able to talk it out and you're able to build those connections with your clients and actually do that so I got the great thing. So what's Next Ryan? What are what exactly. What are you going to be doing for? I mean who knows? I'm hoping only another month or only a few weeks. But what are you going to be doing up until that point? Because are you gonNA come back as soon as the governor flips? Switches back on or are you going to wait it out? I'm on the fence about. I think it's just gonNA depend on. How much longer does IVC may attention to you? Know How many cases are still being reported? It's GonNa depend on that they've been ultimately for me. It's like a safety first thing Late just because something is opening Safest Obando you know. I'm also debating. How is it going to be busier? We can have a lot of people. Are PEOPLE STILL BE CAUTIOUS. I'll put it this way while you're thinking about that though every day. I kid you not because every day around the whole company there are people coming to our doors ringing the bells. They don't read the giant sign. That says we're closed says why and then they call every day or you open yet and I'm like I can't believe you people. I joke that once this happened. I got more email inquiries than I have like for the whole year and like series enquiries like not just like. Oh what did you like we were like? Hey I looked at your profile. I saw your here on these days. Are you still going to be there? You know outlet GONNA Open backup. Can I go ahead and call it a deposit and then when you open up we can schedule it? And you're like really guys appeared that because what it took for you to realize you WANNA come to the Bunny ranch. Yeah I mean it's rough. I know it is because you know we we are GonNa have like the little What they the Infrared thermometers at the door is that every ranch Every single person walking through the building every single girl that comes on shift every day every single every single staff member. Everyone will be scanned at the beginning of their shifts. Like there's a bunch of things that are coming you know and I can't go into full details on everything and I'm not GonNa Pool like certain people where they say. I have a plan and there's really no plan we actually do have plans But we also know that it's GonNa take time to actually implementing these plans ready before walks through back into company into the work. You know before we let you guys back into sleep here. We're GONNA start implementing anything to go where restaurant that can offer curbside. I think that goes into the illegal category. Now come on down to our corners. A you guys aren't with like we have implemented and ready to go because it is gonna be just full-on like our industry is obviously considered like a high risk. Injury are invalid. I Pin's profession. You know and that that that definitely is you got me doing it too. Well with that being said though Ryan how I know you're on instagram and twitter. I know you're on the message boards. You know what exactly like how. How can they see new pictures of you in your rats? And how also can they keep up and talk to you and get to know you in these times and that way they build that connection to get you or come to see you? Sorry of course. Twitter is if you WANNA see like brothel life for me. Twitter's my best because twitter. You know we're allowed to be a little more uncensored Ogden is a cater specifically to my buddy ranch late so twitter is Olive Ryan Taylor. I post thanks very personalized. Of course I posed sexy pick Jason Times. Iran's about things like I was ranting the other day I went on like this whole rampage and I mean all it's like you can also see the girls communicate with so you can find ways to connect with other girls from the house. They'll see a really great way to kind of interacted. See all the girls from the rams not just me. All the houses is not just literally we all are. I mean I was talking with abby the other day on their. She's enjoying the sign out in. I think California so there's that way I do have an instagram. That I it caters tomorrow. Mostly like my professional pictures. And it's Ryan Taylor still sucks though my instagram when I used to be like an instagram was Ryan Taylor sides in a guy like instagram deleted at. So now it's Ryan Taylor still size And that I just gotten a large really beautiful picture is not right Sharing old photos in like the voters from my hustler shoe for when it really like it and it's not Post a lot of Not but it's a great way to see like professional vote as hot model photos. I trust me. I mean we all miss that kind of stuff you know. We have like our photographer trying to come back and do photos right now with just the people who have been displaced here and we're like no no no we need to hold off because we don't want that close contact yet all craving to go back to your age and of course like you said for anyone who's on message boards. I don't post a lot of my own but I like to interact with other. There's a lot of girls who really greatly blog post on there. Yeah I'm just not like a block most girl but I do like to read. I like to see. The girls are updating. Lots of photos. Like how they're spending their time and it's really good to see everyone so those are three really great ways. What about Hustler case? Someone is not in the loop or doesn't know who you are. What exactly about Hustler or are you talking about? Yes Oh Hustler. Magazine's it's been around since the seventies I am currently for twenty twenty there vivere of the year. So thank you thank you thank you I. You can order lines. Were not able to go online if you like. But IV April twenty twenty covergirl. And then I have You know spread is in their figuratively literally. Well I if you WANNA see that then. You definitely have to get the magazine. 'cause you know obviously we can't show it For those of you watching on Youtube. Unfortunately I won't be able to show you what it looks like but you can go on there. You can out if you're over the age eighteen which all of you should be. If you're watching our channel so Dan Ryan thank you online. Also so many obligations they have like a urgel version of it. You can do that. I've been in a couple of their magazines. Got Interviews with them. So I've done a couple laid out in Colorado Springs Colorado store opening I did it appearance in signing their things and I love working with them. They're really great. I look forward working with the more And I'm hoping that that also directs traffic to me not the ranch. We'll see like you know they have imprison experience. One thing of course settled down covergirl alive. It doesn't WanNa be on the cover of a well-known Benghazi and especially you know a bunny girl because you know you're not you're not like porn star. You're not all these crazy you're a bunny ranch girl so and you beat all these like. I don't know I'm not GONNA come up with bad names because I apologize. I don't WANNA I don't WanNa make anyone Matt but you know you and this isn't the first time you know there's other bunnies that have done it. So and this is a great thing so definitely make sure you do check it out. Thank you again Ryan for coming in doing this. You know I appreciate you actually doing it from home taking the time out of your normal fun life there with your rats life ready to play with them. Yeah without to make sure you do. Like comments scribe go on her Youtube. Youtube dot com slash. Bunny ranch network go onto our twitter at Bunny Ranch Ebony ranch. Net W. K. At Cedars Ranch at Kit Kat Brothel at love ranch north Which is the only leverage left? And also you know. Make sure you go on. Every podcast platform and basically gives a five star rating because we have been in the top hundreds pretty much mostly since we launched a couple of times dipped. But we've been pretty much consistently top hundred because we are the bunny ranch and we're we're pretty awesome. Yeah well what better way you know. Normally we have the weekly live streams people get to know girls and unfortunately because we're not in the house. We don't have access to do that right now. So this is a great way to see. You know it's you can see girls pictures and be like or even like the video that we posed. I like this but when you can see them talking speaking interacting with someone you really get a feel for if you're GONNA connector if they're the right provider free and also like the ranches have amazing girls. Go through and watch every one I watch. I mean they're everyone is different. The way we do. The shows are different every time. Obviously you know this is a little different because we got skype in nowadays. And it's Ed. We're we're pretty much catering towards each person so but make sure you go take a look. Watch those If you do have any questions or if you have any questions you want to ask some of the ladies make sure you email me James at Bunny ranch dot com and make sure you email her Ryan Taylor at Bunny ranch dot com and it'll be on the screen below her to don't worry somewhere down there you know it depends on where it pops up at space technology. It's pretty hard here sometimes or here or down here. Yeah I think it'll be further down. It'll be somewhere down below. It just depends. You know we're teleport's in booth With that though make sure check out all of us and again. Thank you for listening and thank you for watching. This is the Bunny Ranch podcast.

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Unfiltered Episode 27 - Damien Wickham

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51:24 min | 9 months ago

Unfiltered Episode 27 - Damien Wickham

"Rob Butts up Bra. Did you hear that what was that? I was bombed often because we got response. We did yes. Skinny magazine has joined forces with us for this unfiltered podcasts. For Your fucking joints people's skin and ink man that's like the original tatting Larry Flint. I don't know him but I know his work very well because I do dead now. He's still he's not bro. Dude is not aligned. Google it when we get done ever because I want to talk about Mark Driving Mark. Driving infusing there you go. We're not really gonNA talk about that what we're GonNa get him on your lighter and we just want to welcome skin in INC magazine as a sponsor of the filter podcast Electron Radio Rob's platform mop platform all the platforms that we have and We hope that we make you proud. You Know Scotty. That magazine was pretty instrumental back in the ninety six. What kind of put us on the map. It did really I mean. That's what got a lot of people interested in Tattoo. It did it. I'll I'll call it a game changer and I think they're going to revamp it. They're going to modernize it man. Taking you know taking it from print only to the digital age got a website going on Instagram facebook website. Graham skinny just gotTa go skinny INSTAGRAM FACEBOOK DOT COM. That's what I'm saying. Dot Com dot net dot org. They're going to have a competition on skinny dot com have a featured artist contest going. Yeah Winter's going to be getting featured in magazines. That's fucking awesome. It'd be a monthly competition at your fingertips at your fingertips. Thank you guys. We really appreciate it. Yeah we'll have copies of the magazine here When you're doing the podcast live at you on your website to put him on a website. Probably haven't been like dollar electric supply of we'll have them up on the website. We'll get them into store. People can pick them up. They come in and by surprise from us an infusion empire if you guys never heard of that Tattoo artist you know if you're if you're in a geeky pop culture kind of stuff you said Geeky. It's all good pop culture cultures. Hail Geeky. The COMECON stuff's taken over Brun. It is you know it's a it's a big deal manners. These guys travel all over the world tattooing and comic cons the big COMECON too big big kamikazes a good group of artists to team up with them and toured the country. They do the star wars stuff. Lots of the MARLINS. Yeah they're good and I know they're looking for some new artists join forces with him. So if you're interested in seeing what that's all about check check out Inclusion Empire on Facebook The INSTAGRAM'S DOT com all that to social media realm of the world excellent opportunity to hook up with mark in an infusion through based it's been around a long time man older than you will thank you man that's awesome. I don't know how you pull it off that new sponsorship but I'm really happy to have him now. I love that dude. You can't say that yes. I can't filter. Oh my God okay. That's the whole thing all right. Well can we have some happy music to take us out of this nice peaceful? I feel so at peace right man. I mean it's been a good weekend. We got a new sponsor. We had some excellent episodes. Here we did. It's been a good time and skinning INC magazine's making a comeback. Yes thank you again. Very much for being a new sponsor for US. We really appreciate it. Malcolm to the unfiltered podcast with your host. Scotty whitaker nothing is off limits when we sit down with your favorite artists and industry professionals and talk about whatever comes up so sit back. Smoke in your favorite beverage and get ready for one. Hell of a ride. Unfiltered starts all right. Welcome to another episode of the UNFILTERED podcast. Today we are at United Inc. It is the Queen City Tattoo. Tattoo Arts Festival. I had something in my mouth for second in the home she was that. What what you're almost shit kick today. What is up with this Shit Kick? You got going on. Not Me it's you. What the Hell. We'll go ahead. You want to put it out there ahead. No what you know what Damien. Oh by the wake we have. We have named Wickham with us today. He has graced us from the The grain of the land down under thanks. Mike now I gotTA ASK. You my wife's going to throw this out there and by the way this is my wife Christie Chris. Today Chrissy hang on. This is our dog tank. Go ahead and So I'M GONNA. She's embarrassed me a few times on this. Show some go ahead and just out there. Sharded sharded in the PUCK and Parking lot park into the Bucket Park Index. When we got here and I wasn't GonNa say well I mean you you kept threatening. So is there you know. America and in Australia Puck sharded in the parking deck on level. One and I had to. I had to clean myself. It was it was. It was bro. I'm it depends on. Was it a hotshot over a soft shot? It was a soft shot. And then we'll solve that for a little bit and we'll get to the toilet was it was it was. It was scary scary. Hey we've all been there someone. Someone says that they haven't been there there. You're right so for those that don't know Damian is an amazing data not discuss these here Of Known Daming for a few years now and every time I seem he is usually doing an entire leg sleep in a weekend. It's true yeah. Yeah Yeah I think this is the smallest tattoo ever seen you do. And it is A mini back piece on most people. Yeah I will say that. Well it's because I live so far away you go to get something done. People Wanna get like a leg sleeve or something and I'm only here for a little times. I did he get down to actually get it up promptly so you don't have to come back and do any sort of touch-ups but you're here once a year at least for a little while. Yeah Yeah Yeah I remember. The Americans stole your Shit last year when you came over here for the When you you did the AIRBNB and stuff. What membership yeah. Yeah we We my wife went on this thing called craigslist and craigslist was. So we're like. Oh that's cool and we got this place and of course we're GONNA stay for four months and kind of cost nine thousand dollars and they one of the money upfront. And they sent. They posted US keys. And we'll all we got the case. What does turn up and we turned onto this complex late at night. Freezing fucking and I mean we get down my win. My winter is like maybe fifty five at the coldest nights such thing as snow but I have been whistling side I've seen it and We get there. The lady goes no no no no one he live here like what the fuck. Oh my gosh. So yeah we got put out onto the street like She didn't want to help you know and we had a six nine nine month old at the time so no-one can help us or anything so we went across the road to a Went across the road to a pizza joint and one of the we were talking in. One of the wait is heard what we were saying. He's like I haven't Van and I'm versatile Smith someone's advantage of like like I'll take you wherever you want. A guy this is on. This is not good. He took us to a hotel and we got. We got a hotel couple of days and months. Joey would also you'RE IN NEW JERSEY FOR JERSEY? Imagine that yeah and and down south taking care of bomb. Yeah Agua on and you know what I've found that. Oh of course. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah everybody. Here is just fantastic. Damian would like to tell you folks. Do not rent anything to stay in on the craigslist. That's it added the word of advice here. Can we agree to that? That's true. Yep Yep Yep I'll I'll endorse that fuck craigslist but crassly Damian and myself you greg and his fucking money back. I'm like if I see that Bitch. I gotta I gotTa say this. I told my wife earlier. I said I'm GonNa really annoyed the shit out of Damian because it's kind of hard to do that house Damian's always smiling laughing and having a good time and I'm like I'm really going to try to get on his nerves. But another strip on the bobby this sending me find this convention. A really only what is like minute were coming here. What's going on oil out? Craig Craig Jacko. Jackson did did a energy and add a hold on. Who who is Craig Jacko Jackson? He's a football stray but he's not a rugby league play rugby player. He's the gay guy who plays Aerial Ping Pong Hook Football Australian football. You don't want that much is no with once again and Apparently it's only good if you there at a senior. But he he enjoys. The batteries was the Was the advertisement. I've got manic and it made famous here. Australia and mocked Jesse Jackson's Catchphrase was so at the end of the end of every At the end of every ad he would go and it just stent people think think of you people think like if they if I don't hear what they're saying probably I'M NOT GONNA go. Hey I'm going to go. So when people try to relate to us as being ozzy's I if if I say something and they don't understand they'll lean back and wait what the fuck is do you shop on craigslist bitch. Get the fuck away. That's good ship and I'm sure. Did you get your work visa through outback? I went to outback steakhouse in Australia. Hey y'all let's let's get something straight. Let's do us all right. The on the menu. You guys have a thing called a Blue Moon Bloomberg nine women blooming onions well. An uneven is bloom like a flower but that's not what blew my knees bloom bloom. Blooming is is a polite swearword. So if you're cutting up onions and you is a crying. You're cutting up onions. You guys blooming onions. Or if you kick it. Kick you on a on a brick. You'll got booming brick. That's my new shit you don't even so it's like look. And they call it a blooming blooming onion. Let's let that's like swearing? Every time you order your entree on entrees a mainstay at a appetizing appetizing. You already appetizer. You swearing at the waitress doesn't offend. It's so funny in every go there and I'm like you know what blaming is and I'm like. Oh Yeah it's like a flower comes out. Nah Nah in custody. That's good stuff then. No-one no-one realized how long Tattoo I'm look. I'm just all over the board here so don't don't expect this to be really kind of fucking bash. I have no idea what we're talking about. So it's Kinda whatever comes up. So how long have you been tested? I'm going on twelve years tattooing and it's Your style is Whatever entity is like I go back to to let me get an eugene very painter. Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah I like to. I like to render every you. It was ridiculous. Three days of the few tire Lick Sleep. It was ridiculous. Yeah I dun Monette Guy Hold on that Dude Dad had just Jadid. Yeah and he's memory is awesome. I'm good at this. Yeah tops But his dad had just died. And that was a big fucking dude. Yeah yeah at six. Yeah yeah he's a large man and he was not like as skinny. I'm just saying it was like no. I'm still on your memory were. I don't remember Shit home. Don't tell her that. I remember those careful. I did not remember to take Shit. This guy. This might be a problem But so twelve years. Yeah twelve years well with ash yeah. He's dead Pasta. You said to me. He said like That was your entire weekend. Yeah he knew it was coming over here and he just wanted to come so he got a plane ticket. And I've known ash since I was like in in in preschool women. He lived in Australia. Yeah he's asked nothing Australia and he lives in the same town. Which by the way at the moment. My Home Town only has thirty days of water left. Are you serious? Yeah they've got. We've had a ten year. Drought hasn't rained in ten years. Yes the Stanford The surrounding towns that are probably about an hour apart and there's nothing in between Jews outback right. So you got three towns. They're all relying on Warrick at the moment. His three ten ten Afield Stanton and and Clifton have all look out of water. There is not water cannot turn the tap on that have to do. Is They have to truck they truck water in two places and then you go by that water and then you take the tub of water to your house and Lincoln to your thing. And they're like a big square off tonight sister. How assistant yeah like a big Top look tank and you buy that tanking. They drop a tea house now. And that's how you do. You would say at the moment that they hope they don't break down and we just had bushfire us just went straight. Through to two towns like ravished to to Stanford was one of them at all hit. Warid like as show you photos of my mom's house just off the cusp of getting burned down like fucking incredible. It's so dry. And Barren and tenure last night it was just puck in Raynham. Where lead you get out there and roll around in the street naked? Felt like it should've yeah night number where where. I actually live which is run on the karst. We deranged three o'clock every afternoon. We got. That's and that's where they getting water from how dams overflowing Shit. But there's a great dividing range in Queensland that runs all the way up the eastern coast and clouds now at the precipitation is hitting those and stopping anything beyond those clouds. It's not happening trump small getting wall. I built a wall over there so I blame. Trump's that sucks though. That's making light of it right now but it's desperate combat ship. Yeah no it is. It is bad. It's something I'd like to. Maybe a little bit awareness about out somewhere. Hell yeah is there. I mean that's crazy. Yeah I did see though and that this could be. That's that's a holy. We're GONNA take a moment of silence because well do that because we can probably well now we can probably take that snapped up violin out later tron anyway South you how fucking interwebs is. It's it's usually a fucking lava that there was a those gentlemen Retired engineered from the military of some sort some branch but he invented a machine that It it kind of looks like a tanker. But it's got this obviously contraption on the front of it and it collects shit out of the air and makes water and they actually supposedly what? This thing said They have ten of them now and they put couples in Africa and get on the ball and get one of these things. Trump Dover get mad and Madison. You Know Tina Turner outmost but we can. We can get some Jitterbug Yeah I got a friend of mine who actually went and did humanitarian aid over in This kid on Ellen. Actually he's a he's a good kid is a good friend of mine. he Yeah he went over and done this humanitarian aid in in in Africa. And can't they had this system where they would hook it up to or they'd get dirty water like disease. Ridden off tach it to this thing and filtered it clean plenty and it was creating drinking water and this kid went around just gave gave them two villages to get fresh water on going since then done some ride that does suck Menteng. Can you imagine ten years? Buckingham had moved. That's what people are doing. Well I was GonNa say what your mom has she does she but your mom centered ways. I ain't going anywhere near nine. Mom's mom comes up fair bid but Nice she Depth stugotzs water. Warrick still has water. But it's only thirty days left. I like it'll be out by Christmas. Martyrdom Christmas War. Yeah but ten years eleven years ago. Sorry we have. A Dam burst at rain that much like we were in another drought and pissed. Dan Ryan so bad that One of the dam water burst than it went straight into town cooled Toowoomba and flooded Toowoomba Synon- and like thirty one people died. It rained that much and it filled all the dams off like overflowed. All the Games in the area. What they did was once. It gets to a certain level to have to release the water in the dams they released the water and apparently they were releasing too much. I have the time and so it's come back now to really bottom on the ice. And they should. They should have just left the water in the mall. And then yeah. Yeah that that kind of fucks up the joke I was gonNA say about Kangaroos. Oh that's all right. The thing is not the next thing now with tango. Ruse is their grazing by the sides of roads. Now getting hit by cars and they get hit by us so you you know you driving kind wiring and you've got like five times the amount of roadkill on the side of the road then you. Would you go one betsy wombat? She's seeing all different kinds. Cnn kidneys you where you might drive and you might get the odd kangaroo But you know you're not seeing you don't seeing they're all just equality's not so much actually the kidneys stuff like that. They're they're all coming to eight the foliage like around neither neither roads saying over here just got an hour together yes cows. Now they're the farmers releasing the cows and just let them free range trying to get wherever you can go. Yeah and they're all like you gotta draw along he's got mu chaos audible. Yeah it's Fox I am but you know. What do you do well then like? She said she'd moved. But I mean not. That's right yeah Yet 'cause you're okay 'cause you're on the coast yet and it's like the Donald gotTa Watch out for the Great White Shark. No WE GOTTA WATCH. Until I guess. Target shots your fucked up mileage. That's what I did. We're at the southern tip of the biggest the Taga shot breeding ground in the world. So yeah we're GonNa Watch but y'all where they win McRae that somebody just took it out there and fucking servants. Yeah I don I wha what goes through their heads man and you know what? I'm going to be the decade right now. But you get these people that go out there and they serve or whatever and then they get the fucking arm off and then next thing you know. They're back and they're like Oh. It's amazing I'm like no. That's not the other stupid one arm left. Are you trying to like gambling because now you're just dangling it for the way now? I'm showing you that I can only swim in circles and you know come and get every every snack should love. I mean come on now They'll probably not to every surfer I know on the sunshine car is back home in Australia. Has a story to tell about a shop at shark encounter shots right back in there and they wrote back in. That's when that's when I lose my I the inventor who brought because you already nonetheless I'm down. I'm sorry you dad you got to cut off but what you knew the risks you went ahead and did it anyway. So I'm just going okay. Sorry yet but I'm you know. Come what do you think you'd be enough quite of it? What did they am? I being right now candy. Well but what do you think for? The bills are more from knowing the risk. I went out there. I started seven months. But you got all your limbs right now. Yeah he started serve. I'm out there. I was like I got the hang of this. This is great and then in the back of my mowing joy started playing and I went out. But if you say well let's just looking around gone and that's all it took because you wanted to keep all your pitches digits. Yes yes yes. I like my name. Scott who thought? Nah I don't need seven that bad. Sorry I stuck with forty you stuck with what not football footy footy. Aga- you are Your your big stocky gun. Yeah Kinda took you as a as a thirty. I wouldn't call it that before until now but that's my new word yet food. Yeah well. We breakfast Brady's people go away though you would g for breaking people. I didn't give her any breakfast. Her story well. Now I played Everyone here has this Image of Rugby as rugby. 'cause we have two codes of rugby back time. We have rugby union which you will know as rugby and then we have a branch off of that which is Rugby League and Rugby. League is ten times more physical than rugby. Union W other slugging it out all out. Yeah yeah well. It's it's more like with rugby. Union one team can have the bowl the whole game so it's like a on flowing game. There's only five made us said what's that fifteen feet between the offensive and defensive lines and there's not enough room to be to get a run steamed through COPPA. He'll try to break their line to put the ball over the opposition's lines in in Rugby League you get six chances to get the ball over the opposition's line with one with by putting the person on the ground and then that's close to the time when you stopped motion going forward and put them on the ground. That's tackled with rugby. When you put them on the ground they'll come in over the top and stints dump on their heads and that was what. Yeah then the next person comes along and he runs up. He gets a tawny run up with rugby league. You get he get thirty feet inbetween running. You can get good running up and the idea is to hit them. Put them on the ground straight away. You've got to use your shoulders and everything to smack them on the ground and that's the beauty about that sport like it's so much more physical brutal and like Yeah these injuries and they're now trying to make the game software United but that could also be like a millennial thing too because of that and they're bringing in video referees. Shit say that to me the scripting the game these days. I will die hard rugby league fans that just watch the game anymore. Because they're taking the brutality out of it well so basically the whole cast of mad. Max was fucking Rugby League team. Yeah exactly in fact there was. I think there had to be there were so. I'm pretty sure there was some some guys who fix your banner. I'm sorry this is bothering shit out of me. The dry here we got but make this person could be highlight that googly eyes on the looks that looks like you just came out of rugby legally came in just come out of a. Rave Party fucking five o'clock in the morning speaking of Rave parties back to Florida for a minute forgot. We were in Orlando it was either Orlando or fucking Tampa. Can't remember which one is lowers. Orlando you talking about the Gift Card Center. No no body was Tequila. Oh it's a killer. It's killer a we had Damian won best of show guy now all weekend we had been given About fifteen cases of the trump And we had the entire convention all hammered because it was very slow show of that yet. Yeah very slow show. I think probably probably one piper gone was gone but you came in and we feel we feel this. It was a cup like Winston Cup. Big Big Cup trophy. And we put a fifth of petroleum to Coffee Patrol in this thing and Damian combat and we had this thing and everybody had taken a drink of will he thought it was wine and he choked three and it was more. Your wife's going here just put it was way more and then realize what was happening and literally within like fifteen minutes he was over in. Spurs. I had to hold that. There's always gonNA throw back to the fucking thing sitting with a guy called so. I think I was sitting. I can't remember who I was sitting with a looked up and I seen the poor this brown liquid and I'm like what are they gonNA wind the wind and the guy's name I think it's Tequila. He gave me a wing out like say they're making people think that this cullen to kill a bit wine. That's what I had my head and I mean that's a good trick trick. When I walk past I was on my way to the toilet and someone said you said it makes goalless skull this. Yeah Right I. I'll skull this annoint. Look but they were big GULPS. Look look look and I even tried nuts and that the second one I felt like you know that immune Adam's apple burn it was the Y- you get that feeling so I felt that before I felt the burden so that soon as I felt that I win. Something's not right so I pull the thing down and out. When I breathe I breathe five and I just had to stand there real quick just had to hold it real quick because it was gonna come come and I was just gonNA on the floor. It was good. I enjoyed it but I couldn't hammer. Yeah I had to sit and drink too much but lou had member. Lou had the squirt bottle and when people like me to fucking mouth. I'll look. They're still Mr. Jason Slacker Ham slacker. We're doing goods head of voice going on. I like that not having you know what when we do your podcast. You have to talk like that the entire time and I'M GONNA call the police pedophile coming in. Yes yeah I have you done. No not yet. Non said you let it work and say that no. I said I never listened. Be On there. They're sure yeah you're all over. Don't don't do that no company like I shouldn't he should let me Let me get permanently. That'd be cool de will move over here off big time do you really. Oh Yeah New York on nine. Yeah you know no no no. It's too cold. I wouldn't have to do the call we. We don't know it's to call have you. Have you like legit thought about shopping around or have you checked it out enough to to were? You might would go we. We're looking at a shop in Hermosa beach really. Yeah over on the West Coast but only because it's close to home. It's like one flight hunt. Where here over the East Coast? It's it you know. It's like two two days two days before we get harmed and I'm keeping my shops there but like I have a work visa at the moment here and Like we love. His remarks like Australia is so fucked with we get we get like a few of you. That are trying to come over here. Tattoo Wok yeah. We pay eight dollars a gallon for fuel. You know like that's just tells you how much we pay for bread and milk and when we go to grocery when we do the grocery shop we spending six hundred dollars at the Fussy. Yeah they're trying to make it a cashless economy is it's just not a good place to be a much is expected beer We'll my six pack of beer that I buy. I buy a stone and wood which is from Byron Byron Bay. It's bad twenty six bucks for a six pack et. Yeah this is what I'm saying and they don't have yangling. Oh you're everywhere. I go get me young. Living in can't do it best beer in the world. As far as that is crazy you cannot put like our house. We bought our house for six hundred thirty thousand which is on the Ward I. It's it's I mean not on the words on an island actually. We've got a series of violence where we will be live and yet it's a beautiful place like from when we bought it in two thousand fourteen. It's doubled in value so it's like it's million dollars now so it's like people can't afford this much longer. How long how much longer can you can't? Yeah how much load is another wall round that little place. Yeah will they? They they like we applied for the Green Card Lottery the day Before we come and reapplied for my visa side like we could move here now. No problem and but it's just a matter of where finding a nice good spot with good people that can be a reality down. South. Yeah I'd love to move down south. Yeah yeah I think everybody from what I hear. Moving down. South is where debate as the. It's the best place in America debate. It's and it's also you don't hear many shootings in this area degrees brother. Bar Two hours from here is it I mean there's there's places you can go. I mean you're going to get that shit anywhere you go to but it's it's not as bad as I get my opinion. It's not as bad as what a lot of people make it out to be. Yeah we'll see. This is the thing that you see Al Media. How meteor over morning when we wake up. There's nothing but scare tactics. What our media. Yeah they try to scare us with something you know and I don't listen to listen to news much bracket on him because of that. Just listen to my podcast. That's all I need. Yeah Yeah I didn't know you didn't want to do I will because you're only yeah and you you you're actually the first person I've interviewed. My dog fell asleep. He is done balls which my girls we hear Roy near that they would be beside. Lexi last night didn't weren't they didn't hear very here. Yeah Thomasson. They are gonNA come on. Yeah yes they helped me look. He's he's already reaching he's reaching Australia. That's what he does when when she walks in a room if I'm holding him that's what he does like a fucking kid. Yeah Little Bitch Little Hank So do I would. I would be awesome if you moved up here. I'd love to you. Might like honestly like and you know what over here you you. You're not pushed your Sorta educated your education system. Here is so much better. I like people plan to go to college. People planning to go to college. You don't plan to go to college in Australia. You plan to you plan to get a trade and go to union. You don't because you're colleges are like forty eight miles from your house. Yes that's right. Yeah if if Murphy or Memphis go to college. They're going to be moving at home. They're going to be moving away no matter what because there is a college on the Sunshine Coast But is it good one? I Don I. Is that what they're gonNA WANNA do on say most likely? That'd be moving in Brisbane. Sydney or are there are seven colleges in Greensboro Rawhide. Seven in disgrace and then the outskirts. She got point. You know stuck in twenty five and thirty Mile Radius. No way on sway always shit. How many have another fucking UNC? Twenty thousand or more and can stay in state for holy ship there and then. Apparently that's what you want to open a tattoo shop. Iran colleges apparently Raleigh and dermer really good spots hill. Chapel Hill's eurogas Bob or military military town military towns like Jacksonville Jacksonville. You do good But but it's not that I even WANNA open mind. She'll probably here. I don't think I could because like craigslist Bro. With if I have to go home someday you'll be walking away or trying to sell was shopping like today unless you're unless you're a tattoo shop saying worship well in it straight you. They're not worth anything. They're only something to the person who's same here but now name recognition is a lot Gotcha. So you you're buying a brand a lot of times. I advise it fucks it up right. So it's Kinda whatever I mean I K- I never thought of that way and I never thought of it like that. I mean to be quite honest with you. You're you're a foreigner. People are going to get tattooed by you because you ain't from really same as the same time to like When like yeah American? Well it's not only everyone. Americans Australians and love Americans wish so similar in what we do in whatever trends us go I sit. We follow you guys go to war fuck we go. We go to war with you. That's a better football program just like it because I like the balance. Yeah you take the fucking helmets and pads exhaustion. Oh saying that loss not. I'm watching the game last night and I don't get me wrong. I love American football. But I'm sitting there and I'm going who came up with the idea of putting a helmet on. Somebody was their motorcycles. Like wow and then we had jared hang up fully. The forty nine is for a while when I was leaving here like I came over to us to America to develop the Game Rugby League in two thousand one and I started following the Philadelphia Eagles Except where I was living and then I just started doing when I started tattooing to start doing a lot of work in San Francisco so I just started filming in this jared hind came over He was from Out He was probably the best rugby league player he came over and Signed up with the with the forty niners. Fuck I got cups. I'm much shit. Like jared love Full of four nuts. I'll see you like jared. Hi I'm like No. He played for paramedics. And he's a blue using like. I'M A STAUNCH CLEAN. Lando from than we have this three. Take three game match every year between a New South Wales team in Queensland team that is picked out of L. NRL best players in the world. Play three games against each other and his even more brutal. Like it's the fastest game and He plays the he's an opposition. So I hate is fucking discuss. These guys put that out. Yeah you don't say you hate. Anybody puts a blue. He knows what I'm talking puts a Blue Jersey on fucking eats on my fucking. I like a now. Here's my biggest question. I've been asking for a loan. Yes I'm married now. We'll talk about that later. How many digits reduce you have did you do did you. We don't S- So you don't digital neither do the DIDGERIDOO donal. Oh Yeah I've done them. It's like it's funny like if someone hands you a bone and the bones gave some someone hands you a bone in the bones breaking someone. Alaska will digitally do you know there's is A comedian back in the day in the eighties names ostentatious. And he did this. He made a three minute Skit with all of Al Native Words A famous locations slang everything into this storyline. That you've got to listen to you when it's absolute brilliance. But if you don't know if you don't know geographics and all that sort of stuff you don't really get the joke but when you listen to it you can't help but think that this is the most genius thing anyone has ever love to see someone do his style what he's done but use the words in in in America you kill it. I'M GONNA check it out. You got to check it out. It's it's hilarious. Yeah it was done in the Eighties. I think it was so like for real the show stupidity or my just my ignorance. I guess. So the aborigines. Yeah Are there are still like little areas where it's just yes. There are grouped into. But that's so if you're if you're out in the open an open I'm almost an open field but for you it'd be like just out. Yeah outback Do you ever just hear those things in the distance. The digital news injury was this just some. Tv Made Up. She no nine If you go up north and more not get like They got places called missions. That draw mission. So there's no alcohol allowed in Soda Areas. Are You It's where the elders of tribes and stuff like that still exist. I mean we have elders live around us near US and stuff Today and they mostly good people and But then you get the good the bad where everybody. Yeah I think they've just been given a bad rap given a bad rap but then again When they come in and get westernized like once they start As I said we very influenced from the United States so you get these days that there is not like to me. We don't have racism. It's just not seeing the same as it is here but we don't have the history as we have this fall too. Yeah Yeah we. We have this thing where the stolen generation which occurred once many years ago and it was from the foreign people coming into the country they were the ones who came in and tried to take the aboriginals out of Wiped demand why stealing any white man Had A a a child with an average? No lady they that they took them took them from the fan year. It's called the stolen generation. We've we've had politicians apologize for this and I agree. We someone needed to apologize for doing something like that. But that's all spars. I'm concerned done and dusted but you will still get A lot of aboriginals in rural areas that can be bitter that can that can they get a little bit of alcohol into them but that's the same with white people they'll get alcohol. They tended to also But it's They're they have an accent all on their own too. So you've got a you got to really understand even when they talked to you sometimes. You can't even understand the united but then you go to places like Rockhampton and we take like a southern accent and put it on steroids. And that's and that's like in an accident you know there's nothing wrong with you. Go to somebody canton white people. Everyone speak that way. And you can't understand them you know. Like what's like going down to Louisiana swamps. Yes exactly. It's the same you guys rednecks. We go begging yeah I love rednecks. I Love Bogan along. I'm a Bogan back. So you're a bugging redneck. Yeah I've got a real southern accent to accent brother. Yeah bugging brothers Matt. Yeah it's very like people even say I'm not if you're going to get in a strange say my name from personal from Melbourne. Oh Hello Dana. We're also dining diamonds and people like they look at you like they look like. Oh Yeah Yeah. You'll from Queensland Xiv failure it's fun it's all fun and games until somebody gets there fucking. Yeah the operation coming on here and I'm GonNa give you back to your appreciate you doing and I want to do more obvious. L. Do more My own but in in his like again you know because people get mad. Because I don't ask her questions and I'm like it just makes me bring people back. Oh like some is GonNa be what got you into Tattoo. I don't give a fuck. I wonder what's going on an Australian. Yeah Yeah Yeah you know what? I'm okay he was very redneck. He's a bug in bogen. Talk to because he didn't go to College. I learned had attached to you because I didn't want to go back and work in an abattoir. A what abattoir. Oh meat works like a book. That place will be. Slaughterhouse Slaughterhouse Atua and that's what we do We still cold you. Say Fillets it. We fill it bill. Bill other Philip McNary. He's from Queensland can't even talk talk But yes I I will certainly get you back on here and go ahead and do your fucking instagram. And all that kind of Shit so people can check your stuff out all my instagram. Yeah okay. It said the D. A. M. E. N. W. is c. h. a. m. t. a. t. t. w. Damien. We can actually if anyone's get on there and yeah and Taken a Lotta Vail Privileges of instagram away? Bacon Hibiya really. Oh Yeah Yeah. You can't like we can't we don't have we don't have likes. We don't see likes anymore. How many people like shit percentages so I used to get You know you're like I think. Seven percent or something like that. Put Him Senate people. We get one percent now so you know you. You go from five. Five thousand likes whatever to five hundred likes and because because they changed it so it sounds Yes two thousand dollars and it started to drop to like over the last two months of going from ninety four thousand seven hundred down to ninety two the first time ever that it started going backwards for me because I had this system of which I could probably do a seminar on and it was very simple Thing where I would if I'm going to go to attach convention and I'M GONNA go follow everybody who's going to that. Who's following that page and then I pick up followers from so when you get to the convention you get in a strategy. You cannot do that anymore. I think if you follow any more than if you follow any more than twenty at a time kick you off for couple thought. Yeah but I think you're I think you're Hashtag games terrible thing is it. It's Stir Shit Hashtag game what what will. I don't even know what it has to be smashed tags before we leave here today. He said don't even know what a Hashtag is what he does. Because you've been putting them on. Someone gave me some soil idiot. Cousin pasted him. I can say that whoever gave you you tell them. Scott the Bogan Scotty said you need to you. Need not up on your Hashtag. But that's that's the Hashtag game and He was an APP that gave like what you've done. Because it's not like the other some other people that's like it's sixteen pages of Hashtags. Oh Shit like yeah. Of course. I'm a bogey I can do that But now I'm just fucking salon. I would love to have that is free and you got you got robbed on the mark. Doney Tattoo mounted the. Oh Yeah Yeah. Yeah Yeah robbed on that. And then you mcgrane the Denny mcgrane one and he's got ten thousand above and then that one's the best had to ever seen in my life right now today it's fucking. They robbed you Bro. Yeah. I don't know Australia. We're coming to kick your ass. Yea Fuck Name. We're going to bring up some water. I work we're GONNA do that for Warwick were able to wash their butts on But Damian Wickham tattooed. Y'All give him a check out. Check out and His fucking work still use that you're looking at it. What do you think it's amazing what you think about it? Obviously you like it. You came you got you get done. His his client hates US right now. Busted all up in. Is Dan how we're fighting over his time. He's from Australia. I'm but so tonight at outback having some blooming onions inside GonNa have a blooming good. Oh Man who'd I appreciate you and again we'll get back on your sometime and Other than that. I'll see you on the road somewhere. Thank you thank you for joining us. On this week's episode of unfiltered with your host Scott. Whitaker sure to tag US and give us a follow on social media and Electro Radio or on the web at electric radio DOT COM. Thanks for listening and we'll see next time.

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Average Is A Disease Part I, Feat. Ryan Stewman, with Joel Marion  BTI 51

Born to Impact

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Average Is A Disease Part I, Feat. Ryan Stewman, with Joel Marion BTI 51

"My life's been filled with like people say highs and lows my life's been filled with light rocket ship to the moon followed by rock bottom with Jackhammer digging deeper millionaire in here. Oh Hey federal prison in love and married. Oh Hey she's leaving you for the landscaper. Oh God all your money back in successful again. You don't need this license right and so I'm like dude. How like happy family in the beginning adopted lose everything get abused lose my name right like school? The kids start to have all all these ups and downs of like Dude. I'm sick of this right. I'm sick of getting my act together. Only to have the rug swept out from under me. All right. What is up guys and welcome back to another amazing incredible thrill? Nicholas Lea frigging off the chain episode of the born to impact podcasts guys. I am excited because I have a good friend of mine here today. He's GonNa drop some knowledge. Some real knowledge is going to help you. Guys get out of the Comfort Zone that you're probably living in you know that Nice Comfy Warm Cozy Z.. Seventy two degrees life that you live every single day on the couch right riding around your car doing the same old thing revolving door. Yeah and you know. I think people who have listened to this podcast for a long time or maybe outside of that. I just had a guy who direct message me on instagram. Yesterday Saturday which I shared my story was pretty powerful and said. Hey I'm an ex deputy and the last year I quit my job. I started this business. I made more money in the last year than I have literally my entire adult career to this point because of born impact. Yeah Yeah it's amazing. Yeah you know what reminds me a todd lamb by the way. Remember him so I got a DM from girl this week I know she dmz to burn and she literally because of our podcast and us with five pillars literally took initiative. She wrote a book and she's now in the publishing publishing stage and she says she owes that to us and she shot at Youtube video and send it over for us and gave us a complete shout out in there because she said that was one of the huge huge reasons why she actually did it. 'cause I'm a mom I got kids. I'm married I have a job. She's a nurse. Amazing Bro Amazing. Well that's what it's all about right. We know that not everyone who download the podcast is GonNa ultimately do anything with and take action but there is a certain certain number of people and even if it's just franken one worth doing right because you see the impact on the other side And we we've had obviously so much positive the feedback that has comment. He just stroll through the reviews are left on itunes. You can read some of the stories in that made these dams and all this and it's a super encouraging that people or actually getting real value out of this right I'm encouraged because I know the people that are not doing what these are. I think if they hear it enough maybe by episode the seventy five or episode. Maybe they'll kick it in gear. We were just talking about this. Right Re Ryan stupid. Gus Interview some formerly in a minute. He's at that hardcore closer on instagram. But Ryan we were just Standing outside and talking about you know sometimes people gotta hear this stuff. It's all all stuff that a lot of people know but it's like tell them what you were saying about like. Somebody has a special combination of words. Sometimes the right person shows up that saying saying the same words the same message but with a different combination of words it just snaps that lock open like a Combo Combo that makes you have that you've been hearing at your whole life. You automated like clean up your room shoelaces but then sometimes somebody's like you gotta stay motivated. You gotta go out and bring change the world. Some sometimes people are like. That's what it was. You just have that. We've all had that same exact message million different ways but the right combination of words is like numbers on a log so right and sometimes it comes just at the the right time right is somebody's at a point where those words come because that's the thing it's the right words at the right time yes same same words could be spoken to you and you're at a certain point in life and a lot of people. Unfortunately they have to be at a low point in order to be receptive to sign his time to change right because they got to be feeling a little bit of the fire. Where is not going so great right now and I know that I need to finally make a shift your but needs to be cold because you're sitting on a rock because you're at the bottom right right you're at rock-bottom either? Either that or on top of a fire right exactly exactly all right Before we go too much further WANNA remind you guys with this podcast is all about. This is the one and the only podcast specifically designed signed movie further towards living the life that you were born to live who wants to live that life. The life they were born to live with every episode our goals give clear and actionable steps not fluff off but real practical takeaways to help you live a more impactful life life purpose. A life where. You're making a difference in your family and your relationships ships in your career and in the world around you. That's holistic born into impact life right. Their share is family relationships career and in the world exporting but in order to export it you gotta get it inside I write yet daycare. Homebase as I and that's where your family your relationships and your career. A lot of people have amazing careers but the family life is crap there. There have lots not to burn bridges with tons of relationships going down hill especially when it comes to personal relationships were real fulfillment not shut him up. Business relationships people make money together although although we have a lot of great business friends but like people got your back and life right and all of a sudden career above everything else and you look. Don't really have have a whole lot other than some money. Bank count all right. So we're we're this. PODCAST obviously is to help people Live the life that they you were born in every aspect career is just one portion of that. We're GONNA talk a lot about a lot about that type of stuff to get into some career and business building stuff as did you know. I'm here with Dan Ryan. Stewart is my guest. Dan How you been brother Aka Kill Mode yes AKA AAC Gilmore. I'm great man. I'm awesome thanks for saying that. I appreciate all that Sharon. By the way we're just the code needs to click and when it does because I can relate to that so so many different times I'm pumped because our boy Ryan here that is it's here today. He is deemed the hardcore closer. And the one thing I've learned in my time is that if you can't market yourself you're never going to be able to market anything else right and I think that what he's going to bring. I know this what he's going to bring today will help all of our listeners out there a little this. It's all about sharpening you a little more right. It's all about bringing you those things that you were never thinking of or or maybe it just needed that fire lit on your but to say all. That's what they meant by that and this is it and it helps you with marketing yourself. 'cause literally if you can't market yourself you can't market. Everybody always was ask. What's the formula? What's the formula? I'm like if you can't sell yourself. Then what are you going to sell and really honestly everything Joel as you know. Everything is marketing including yourself. Well it's the biggest thing that you have the market because you're not going to open any doors for yourself without Like you said Marketing Yourself. The confidence right is a big part of that. We're going to talk about a lot of mindset stuff in today's podcast and if you don't have that lockdowns a bill to be very difficult for you to be successful in all these other areas that we're talking about an and before you to now and say oh I don't sales it's not really my famous on applicable to my guess what everybody is sales right. You had to sell yourself to the person interviewing you in order to get the job that you got right right and then the raise that you may want right why you deserve it right and then let's fast forward into the business and I've been watching this show become a billion dollars in less than ninety days the guy the billionaire undercover ever okay. I think it's frigging genius. Because a lot of what he's doing is teaching you all those is levels of exactly what you need to be able to make the million dollars much less in your life in ninety days this guy right. He marketed himself so well well to the team. The team bought in literally no money out of pocket. And before you know. He's building this company. It's GonNa make a million dollars in ninety days if you can't market yourself and you're going to try to market yourself and some type of business much less be just an employee that's GonNa come back and bite you in the butt because no one's going to believe in you. Your confidence level level just reeks the fact that you're not going to be able to do what you say you're GonNa do and you're going to broke salesman persuasion. Let's let's take a little bit further. I WANNA WANNA go do something. I want to plan a trip. I I need to actually travel for for work I need to start. I WANNA start a new business while at a spouse else. That's the first one you need to sell us. Sales in persuading -actly exactly Zelzal persuasion goes with You know like if you're you're married you got to get your kids to buy what you're trying to get them to do it right. You need to get your spouse Vince that you want to do the things that you believe things are. You think aren't to help. Your family moved the needle. Maybe it's a moving moving neighborhoods moved into changing jobs. All these things right. You GotTa have buy in from the important people in your life and it doesn't mean that you have to be sitting there a sales job where you're working a commission job where you know it's your job to sell stuff but you gotta sell yourself in one way shape or form in your personal relationships in your in your family in your home and in the workplace you're constantly have to get people on board with whatever is that your vision is let me let me relate to the person at home right now that is corporate or you're just you're working doing whatever it is you're doing in a trade and you feel like you're not getting anywhere with glass ceiling. Okay I just want to relate to that because I was that guy for a period of time in my life right I remember getting with my wife now which when we were dating and I remember saying I need this mastermind to make this business because not everyone has the entrepreneur mindset and not everyone is confident within what. They think that they may a be able to accomplish. I get division and then I make that vision become real right. So what I'm saying is is not. Everyone has that capability to do that. I remember asking asking her for the checkbook to write a check for twenty four hundred dollars. I shook the means for what and granted. This is a corporate woman a lover death but she wasn't thinking the same. Because I know people at home can relate relate to this okay and I said we need mastermind. I need this for the company I said. Eventually you're GonNa work with me and we're GONNA work together. We're GONNA help a lot of people all over the world. She thought I was absolutely insane. Had to sell it right sold it and guess what I'll hearing complained going on today. All right the lifestyles that we have and everything we got going on on right. I'm just the marketing what you just said you are marketing yourself and today Ryan is going to bring a ton of actionable steps that are instant impacts that you can take away and literally implement in your life and it could change your life forever. Positive is when we got the G.. Closings right on the side over here so I want to introduce Ryan next one. Quick thing this podcast is free guys. We asked you to help. Spread the word if you're enjoying it if you are being impacted by by this podcast this is your first episode. That you're listening to or to your fortieth fifty episode okay We want you to share it please. Every time you listen to this podcast please share. If you get value out of the episode. You can do that. So many different ways. The easiest ways it's just hit the little share icon that that is on whatever platform you listen to on. I tunes little three DOTS in the bottom right corner. Click that bring up little famous. Share this episode. Click I And then there's all these apps that come up that you have on your phone if you have facebook instagram email text message a lot of different ways that you can just share the link to this podcast. The other people who could be helped benefit from it if every single person did that every episode probably have grown this thing ten times right right now but guess. What not everybody does it? We're asking you if you have yet to share this. Just take that simple action right now. Okay it pause it to share sure I can share this episode and then share via text email social media facebook instagram. Whatever it is that you platform that you use let other people people know this podcast is helping you? It's affecting your life in a positive way and Be a blessing to somebody else who might need cash. Why don't you Hashtag Tag? I am the one percent right. Let's start a movement with that right. I am the one percent hashtag reality. It's probably how many people are one percent and then there's and then there's the one percent that share it every single time and then they go above and beyond this shared on social. They text message. People tell people about and they become the raving and fans right and and they're also the people who probably getting the furthest because they're taking action not only on simple steps like shared episode. But all the other are stuff that we're teaching you within you know the podcast actually go out and start implementing this stuff and makes a big difference in your life when you take action and actually do it. Look at the gentleman that it was doing. That staying dedicated sending US videos was so into it and look what he does today. He's the intern for one of our fellow. Amazing Colleagues League's Vince del Monte and he is in every photo I see an instagram. Now with a suit on this rocking it right. And he's like on stage and he's speaking he's doing all these things. Why because he's a percent? He just spoke evinces mastermind which was awesome Richards's name? We mentioned times on this but look ah shut up. You don't WanNa just be talking about Richard on this podcast over and over again. All right. Richard Awesome we already established that right. Go go on instagram. Am and see what he's doing. Check Alvin Somalis instagram. He was just a Richard Events. Were just an empire business summit with bunch of my friends. Betas cool in Craig Valentine. Dan Fleischmann and Billie Jean all these guys and Richard was able to connect with even more people. He's already building an amazing network. But it started with the simple step of Richard's Jaren episode. Right right so let's start there. See we're we're it can take you Hashtag I am Richard Nice. Get it all right. If you're brand new this is your first episode after you listened to the amazing content. That Ryan's GonNa share it today. I want you to do something for me. What is that then? Well any star Episode Number One and episode number to backtrack. Why does that? Why is that Joel? Look we're not saying stop and go back now but listen to this episode. That's why you came over here to hear what Reina's say we're just going to be amazing but on episode one and two we we share the five pillars of impact as is everything. This show is is all about and is trying to do help. You live that more impactful life the life that you were born five pillars five. ps You know being with P. Passion is number one on number two remotes authenticity number. Three perseverance number four patients. And then there's one other one in there that I skipped tipped over proficiency proficient in your past and you can't just be passionate passionate about basketball I WANNA BE NBA but Never practice and never doing anything. He's just come naturally like in our brains like etched. But it's like you got to be able to speak those out so yeah so right so this number one is proficiency so you gotTa get good at your passion right so figure out what you're passionate about refine your craft get good at it. It can make a real impact. Hey of I'm real passionate about seeing. I can't sing worth. That's what I'm not going to have a whole lot of impact and the music industry. Well maybe you find some other things to fill in the music industry besides sing but If your goal is to sing obviously the ought to get good eh Whatever it is that you're doing you gotta get good at you got to refine your crap proficiency right? So that's the hard work part of it. Passion all right discover that it's part of the puzzle harder than most people think figure out what that is right right but then proficiency is like all right craft become the best of the best right at your passion right in order to stand out but anyway we get so much deeper in the five pillars of impact. Please listen to that because as you hear Ryan Story and as you get into all these things that he's amazing Konta he's GonNa share today. You're going to see those five pillars interspersed all throughout so. It's good to be able to answer that. And understand what those five pillars are and then be reminded of them as as we go through. You know as as you jump around other episodes but starting with episode one and two is paramount to build a foundation. Nothing great was was ever built. That lasted anyway without a foundation. Nothing all right. I am introduce our special guests. He's a good friend of mine. His name is Ryan Stu men. RHINESTONE finestone is a top sales expert Guru G. Okay Social Media Personality who has closed more than one hundred and fifty million dollars under in fifty million YUP figures. Everybody yes nine figures nine figures and a half over the last decade so he knows what he's doing guys sales persuasion getting the deal done He's a master at it so he's going to help you guys out a lot today so founder founder of hardcore closer. LLC HARDCORE CLOSER DOT com which is an online learning resource for people in sales wanted to learn sales specializes in sales training courses. impactful live Events Ryan is also the founder and the host of the Harker closer podcasts and the top business minds at podcast. I also enjoy listening to it's called rewire. Additionally Ryan has been featured all over the media including Forbes Inc magazine Entrepreneur magazine and the Huffington Post even more Ryan is a dedicated husband loved father and he just flat out. Good people folks. That's why we have On the show. We're not bringing losers in here. We're bringing people who are are good solid individuals right. Who wanted to make an impact wanting to give back won't have an incredible conversation pleasure to welcome our special guest today? My good friend Ryan hardcore closer stemming Rowan some fellas you have a beautiful house man thank you thank you so much absolutely. That's a that's a big compliment. Come from you know that you came from the real estate world. Yeah came from Ed. My let's house right so still be like in in all with this one from his Aita allows is really saying something and I have. You know it's been like a hundred million dollar penthouses in New York. I've been in houses on the bird streets of Beverly Hills or L. A.. Or whatever and do a beautiful setup you have your man thanks very much It shows the value that you've brought to the world because I know what it takes stab nice things right. People assume that nice things equal some sort of greed. But when I know a person's heart and I see that they have nice stuff like man that's because he's brought that heart so much into the marketplace. That's that's the rewards you reap from it so it should be should feel good every time you walk through the door just just for that alone you know appreciate that. Yeah and we've actually actually talked about that. Quite a bit you know is the things that you have is a man. I think it was my business partner had are the same conversation when he bought his Maui House which is blessed so many people with we were out there is how do people stay there all the time It's just wow this. This is a physical representation of the value that I was able to bring into other people's lives which is called to see tangible right as tangible rather than somebody somebody just telling you what they did but this is something you can feel you can touch. You can look at and say well. I've accomplished some pretty cool things known that it was founded. You know from from very authentic place pillar number two pure motives right right right. You're not El Chapo. Run around with with all of his billions of dollars right doing doing what. I don't think he's running anywhere. Well he's not he's no he he's running circles about right maybe taking it. He's hating it because he's here in America wasn't in America. Get out again anyways. Yeah total value. You're not adding drugs to the world world right right. You're adding solution to problems to help people. That's that's another thing who is wow. It's a physical tangible representation of all the problems. I've I've been able to help people solve for you. Know which is which is awesome. And that's what we call value so I appreciate you saying that man and likewise You know you've you've Bard some some nice things on your car guide at some Nice vehicles and you just gotTa Lambo uh-huh Yeah we're GonNa actually give that away. I bought that for contest. I so that's kind of cool because I get you know. Treat it Kinda like a daily driver. I'm not a fast driver. Believe it or not what it's like to put a few miles on it for forehand keys. Somebody else was nice awesome. Get your kids and experience. Yeah yeah all right My kids are so spoiled I show up to pick them up from school and they asked why I'm not in the other car. I pick them up Lamborghini. They're like. Well where's this or you know it's always something with dude. I hi can so relate to eight and six year old girls and You know they've grown up with a certain I was. I was going to put my daughter bed it last night. And I'm just looking at the room. It was all like bed was made and everything are housekeeper cleaned up real nice and there's other room is actually really cleaned for chance and I got to like see like this ridiculous addictiveness room that my daughter can call her own but she doesn't really know a whole lot different from that. You know it's a I'm just thinking I took it a little instagram story cage. Okay you guys have a room like this. When you're a good cause I sure as heck did it and you know what I mean I I lived in a in a home? That was you know whenever whenever it was a fifty thousand dollar home and that my parents bought in Trenton New Jersey. Probably eight hundred square feet you know and None no nice finishes one air conditioning in the window. And you know and you saw a lot of Paisley's some some and Shag rug maybe possible or arousal floor resolution. Let me take it back. Because that's what I grew up on a fell on it many times cracking my head's files Iowa but it's funny because We're driving the airport the other day. And we're we're flying across the coast so you know it's a longer flight and We fly private from time to time. And but you know we we still you know I'm not. I'm not the guy who owns a jet WHO's jumping on and and Having arrived to that level yet and going to the Sh- my daughter asked specifically what airport where you want to. I tell how old she is since difference in the experience which airport goes right over on the big airport and she said Oh why okay all right now flying private and her whole thing is just she didn't deal with the security going through security and all that Jesse how will scare because this. This is a funny story. I'll tell real quick Knows will pop. It's those little snap things either on the ground. So one of the one of the aunts got them for the kids and they were playing with them and their pop on the ground and you lose that little residue. Let's on them right law. This is the day before leaving for thrown powder. Yeah right yeah. Yeah so they she. She got selected for random check which she always seem to do for some reason she freaks out about it and then normally they do the scan and everything's fine but this time sirens crap on off you know so. She's balling and tears and like they won't let mommy come right over and then she's Kinda over there and it just. It ended up being this whole ordeal almost missed the plane and everything over little snap snap policy really doesn't WanNa go. Let's he really does not want to justice Cardi Yeah But Man I we struggle with that We WanNa give these kids all the things that we didn't have but that same time we we want them that appreciate it and Not Be not be spoiled so it's a balance important. It's important because I remember this thinking to myself. What am I ever GonNa get on a plane any kind of plane right okay? What it is I I was? I didn't when I was a kid. I WANNA WE WANNA one vacation Sean. I was a kid and God bless my parents In particular my mom sacrificed a lot with send US private school but that didn't leave money leftover For advocation so I WANNA one vacation house kids one airplane until I went to college house literally only only airplane that was on or not actually one of my missions trip my senior year and it was the second complained that I was on. Never never never went on now my kids'll twenty planes a year you know it's it's wild but always a fine line They gotTA gotTA. How do you deal with your kids? Let me just ask that you know with with China. Yeah Yeah do you want them to have all the all all the opportunities and the nice things and live a different life. Give them all the things that we didn't have. But how do you balance that. Like not being becoming spoiled foil Brats and had this entitlement attitude expectation. Well I have three sons one of them's too so you don't know yet. You know what I mean. He's still figuring things out. The others are like your daughters. They're six and eight and the oldest one is. He's especially privileged college because his mother lives with her parents and she takes care of them. They're in their eighties and her his grandfather who still lives lives retired. CEO of Children's Hospital so he was CEO of Children's Miracle Network for thirty seven years so he has fifty fifty. We have fifty fifty custody. So he's he's bouncing back and forth between two mansions. You know what I mean. It's not like he's got to go to MOMS roughhouse on one side of town and and you know I took them to a speaking event with me. We flew private and I had an extra seat. And he's like I want to go and it's like yeah sure you know and and my middle son though Asher never asked for anything think my oldest son will ask for everything we got a four wheeler. Hey that looks cool on Youtube. Can we get one of these in you. Know sometimes see yes sometimes say no but my middle son you can ask them like Asher you want a four wheeler. I'm good like He. Just he's GonNa tell he's not spoil you just you know he's also And I don't necessarily know that has anything to do with it. But he's not my blood son. So He's amy my wife's son from a previous relationship and so I think he just appreciates the life you know what I mean whereas Jackson. My oldest son doesn't know any better really but we humble them often especially the oldest one because he gets out of out of but there's a fine fine line you gotTa Watch out will tell you this guys. We have like this house warming party. We bought a house about a year ago New House and and it was like Labor Abor Day or whatever happens in September. That's around the Corner Memorial Day or whatever it is we have people over up. Yeah we have people over for for hot dogs hamburgers. Whatever right and one of my friends wipes in the kitchen and I'm in the kitchen getting another drink or whatever and I hear her twin girls run up to her and they're like Mommy Jackson's trying to charge US money to play with his toys toys? He told us that we have to play a dollar to rent his toys out. And they're up there running a toy shop. I'm laughing because I so. He's not trying to be like route route and I know it's hard. He's not trying to be stingy with his toys. He's like this. This is how free enterprise works The opportunity and and she looked at me and she was she was rather you know hacked off about it and she looked at me and she said what are you going to do about it and so I don't know do you. You have two dollars. Malaria awesome obviously. He's trying to working here right but but the cool thing is My son he actually turns eight in a couple of weeks in September ninth uh-huh and this year he wants to be in business with me for his mercy so I sent a thing after my attorney just now is I can use do do a thing with me and Jack Seventy like a kid you have to be eighteen before you can own a business all right. We'll just frame something cool looking. I'll start the business frame. Something cool look in so that he can have it. But this'll dude as a business idea everything and it's actually not bad is they could catch legs. I'm GonNa help them see what's happening. You know that's awesome. That's aw there is a balance you know. We're spoiling him a little bit. But he at least he's saying hey we'll hear some opportunities for for me to do that. And he's and he's making the correlation that we have nicer things because my daddy works hard and because of this entrepreneurial mindset and obviously he won't don't call it that specifically but he's getting it like okay. Well what can I do to generate. Do do a business for myself. And maybe make some money and whatever and he's thinking that at a young age were you thinking that entity young age. I wasn't you know this other other my business partner will tell you that. He came from humble beginnings and he was not a little kid. He's had his own little business with the in in Idaho with fishing. You have these Selim Worms and then he learned his first lesson with quality control because he hired a couple of friends that he was paying them fifty cents to pack back to things and sell them for two dollars but he figured if I to have more people packing these things than the demand is out there can sell more and then People were complaining that it's nothing less soil in here is no worms the real quick that little friends that he hired were not watching. You know they didn't care they just wanted to fifty cents and have to worry about the the customer on the other side right but for most of us I was thinking about because I never had that example growing up my parents words of the grew up. You know lower middle class us and you know after my parents worked for for a really long time and they were able to move into a hundred thousand dollar house in a decent neighborhood out we moved. Moved from Trenton New Jersey to Burlington county the suburbs of Philadelphia and like man. I was the dream you know that was about moving from where we live. Originally to that house I thought life while this is really nice. You know But I've had no no mentor. In my life it was teaching anything Abou How entrepeneurship mindset which is awesome that your kids are seeing that and they're and they're trying to do something with replicated now so continue shining that example and Have Nice things is probably one of the things that attracted him to develop try right. You know I think it's nice to show them and let them feel let taste and let them experience the Nice things and go if you want this. This is what it's GonNa Take Watch Daddy Watch mommy right. This is what it takes. Thanks so if you're planning on being in this lifestyle like I say it all the time like you guys love this lifestyle so we'll let you know it can be all taken away really fast. If this doesn't continue you and so I'm always constantly trying to reiterate that I have a twenty one year old Almost a fifteen in almost a fourteen year old. My youngest is a son and I see a a little bit of that in him. He's coming around a little bit. You know but the other ones are just doing their thing. If it clicks it clicks and I bet your love of that because I would love that especially especially at that age so good for you. That's awesome you said a special combination warriors to flip his lot along the way somebody it may not have been me. He's coming the events ever know who likes awesome environment. Yeah you have event where where you know. You got the Billie Jean in the frank turns and guys like this who who are speaking and they're they're around marketing and sales lingo and all that and they start to catch on the inject knows those guys. Both of those guys have met him. Hey what's up You know like their DADS buddies network. That's right yeah that's awesome all right Four we go too much further on pause or several awarded prayer that God discontinues been a great conversation guys continues to bless must've direction of the conversation have maximum impact and then we'll get into the Ryen story so Lord so grateful today for Ryan and him making the trip to be here taking time out of his day in particular To to travel and to also Just be here be present with the intention of helping others. I Grateful for WHO. He is grateful for what he has Conflict in his life and he can share from his experiences. Grateful for this day in for this time together. Lord we just ask that you bless this conversation that You direct words in direction the conversation so that it would have maximum impact on the people listening change a lot of lives push people in the right direction that something said in today's conversation could be that magical combination the nation of words that's going to unlock somebody's locked. That's been holding them back for a long time. Set them free so they can get going towards the life that they were born to live and that isn't price name. We pray Amen. Amen Amen all right bom those good one house. Promise you had me. I soaked into that really wanted to come to an end is feeling a little bit God right there all right so Ryan you gotTa Story Story Man on knowing you personally This is going to be an entertaining. One is going to be one. That's full of ups and downs But ultimately get you to where you are today is having a massive impact generating a lot of revenue that's able to give back and make impacting into the community as well as for your own family and Like like we already said nothing wrong with having nice things. That's that's part of the whole thing. Nothing wrong with with So in a little bit back into into your own life and collecting things that are motivators for you to go out and generate more revenue to help more people right. So that's where we are today. Hundred fifty million dollars in sales close successful awesome. You know live advantages speaking all over That other people's Conferences and then in your own own of putting on live event no small undertaking. And you're you're you're doing those types of things in addition to being highly sought after to be on other people people stages It's amazing what you've accomplished and I know he's just scratching the surface you. You're all going and we're going to have you back on the PODCAST and a couple of years to say. Hey remember you know low ryan couple years ago said half a billion giving away a prize of a Lambo. What Rolls Royce I can win? It's Global Express Yeah so you're GONNA continue moving forward but obviously Asli people who are listening so many of them would love to Be In your current position as you would of even five years ago right so let's walk people through your story. Let's start with a little Ryan growing up And then walk through kind of maybe the beginning. You had a really really early engagement as far as sales and then Persuasion and all that type of stuff you started young age teenager early teens berlet's is talking about how you grew up. Let's get into some of that stuff and then you know along the along the road to where you are. Today there was some rock bottom moments and then there were you had to climb out of the holes in and get back on top. So let's just talk about the journey. So go ahead started beginning. We you know Joe when I was yes Born I was born to pretty well to do families kind of like our kids. You know believe it or not and just one. Yeah yeah well. We said we'd never had had one. We'll hold on tight. Put Your seatbelt on where we're going here. So I do but by the time I was five all that ended abruptly and so oh I know grown up on a horse farm. I grew up on a horse farm. You know it's what you do and you have wealthy family members. Ray grow with horses right if you have four family. Grove the cars and pick-up trucks or two right and So I grew up on a horse farm and win. Horses are born and they get to be about six months old. you start tying them to offense post it. They can't move and they'll pull against its fence post in until they give up and then they just realized there tied as they grow grow into these full blown beasts. These full grown horses. You can just throw the reins over the fence posts. You don't even have to tie it. And they never move right because they anchored at a young gauge that they could never move that even though he could totally pull that fence up right well with me. This is what happened. They say in human beings from the ages from three to seven. Have the biggest impact in your life right and they shake your mind for the rest of your life until you have a cross country. move a divorce incarceration or healthcare right and so you make up your mind at seven and it stays that way until something catastrophic happens to change your mindset came and so for me when I was about five five years old and I I still remember this four five years old. We had one of my grandfather's was a banker and the other was an entrepreneur and own a glass factory. My banker grandfather with throw Easter egg hunts with like ten and one hundred twenty dollar bills in the eighties right. That was a lot eighties but you gotta remember in the eighties. Put Five dollars in the bank. It's gaining twenty eight percent interest annually versus the point. Two eight that we get these days right right so it was a different different time. But in the S. and L.'s. Crashed you guys are probably old enough to remember that that was the first the og mortgage crisis and the the trust resolution company scooped them all up and my grandfather didn't own banks like Bank of America he owned small non. FDIC insured savings and loans in small small towns so grew up in a small town with a horse farm and now I don't know what happens in Florida if you lose small town people's money in a bank but I know what happens in Texas they show up with like you've seen those things where people have like torches on fire and like pick axes and guns. That's what happened to my family so I go from a young age to do. We're on top of the world to nothing. Do My mom and dad divorced. I don't see my dad again for twenty five years you know like because has because the banker and entrepreneur remarry banker loses his business entrepreneurs one of the people with the frigate torch trying to chase the other guy down. Mom and dad can't stay together. Dad's splits saw right. I get that he left when I was about six years old. I don't see him my mother for twenty five years when he talked to him now. So you're thirty one years old somewhere in there flames late twenties hasn't been talking similarities. I didn't get to talk to mind for fifteen so I can relate to. That's funny how you say that because I think there's a lot of people out there and there's been a a lot of people on this show that literally mom or dad and for us. I think it's because we're men that father scenario right. It's very there's a lot of similarities malaria and then the drive that later on in life becomes the successful individual that just hell bent. That's so true. I'll I'll touch on that later with that so true yeah to a point. It's good fuel to appointing review. Rayo right and so seven years old parents split up my mom remarries of eventually like a year so later we moved back to that small town. The guy she marries. I don't know my my dad. My real dad sound kind of fell. He really is. You know what I mean. But the guy that she marries you know he kind of at a young age taught me into taking his last name to student. So I was born born Ryan. Russell mcchord Nam Ryan Keats doom and and so I take his last name. He adopts me and this dude's like very abusive. You know at the time as a kid. You don't realize certain things you know what I mean in. Your mom will make excuses for why things happen. Yeah but I mean there were times when I mean dude. I have a rod in my hand and my wrist doesn't move because he chased me out the second story window beating the crap out of me and my house and I was about fourteen years old. You know and then didn't take me to the hospital to get it fixed. So he didn't get in trouble kind of situation situation. One time behind the car wash worked for me. Choke me so much that the blood capsule is blue. You know what I mean over not armor on a tire right on a truck like just crazy stuff right now but you know if he were here right now he'd be able to justify every bit of it why it was my fault it fourteen years old. You know what I mean. And he'd still do that today. I don't have a relationship with them. But but so it eight years old. This guy stops me. I gotta go to school in. The kids are making fun of me. Your grandfather lost everybody's bodies money. You're such an embarrassment. Your family changed your name. Your kids can be right so now I hate life hate hate my parents you know and we all know what happens. Like Ema wasn't wasn't a thing back then I didn't get to go guy my hair black right. which is how kids cope with these days and they go watch anime on TV or whatever hit that right? You're just thank alone in your own dark circle you know no social media no nothing no friends. I have four five cousins in this town number one time. Playing Red Rover come over and none of them would invite like me on their team. They wanted me on the other team right. They want associate with with my grandfather from my mother's side as a kid. You're just like cousins like like you want the love you unconditionally. Like why wouldn't they it so it was tough so we moved to Dallas and moved into pretty hood apartments for a couple years and move back back to the city and then by the time I was like thirteen years old my my my stepfather couldn't handle me and so he put me to work and I'm I'm mowing yards and I guess that's probably ten mowing own yards and stuff by the time I'm thirteen. I'm working at this car. Wash after school. He picked me up. Take me the car wash. They never left me at home alone. They said ate too much food. You know what I'm skinny kid. Yeah like a fricking starving to death. Fly landed on my eyeballs. Because they're not they don't have them. He works for a car. Wash those guys eight really printing money like Jolie are arousing look like this and so uh nor the one that I live in and so I'm going to work. Why notice while I'm vacuuming these cars and the Texas heat right? It's hot and humid here. It's bad in Dallas right and and that's where I was working at this car washing. I realized that the guy that sold car washes the you come in. You want to regular washing the upsell you or whatever he vacuum or wash the cars and he was staying in the shade like at a young age. I'm like no that's the spot right so my son's like I need to own a business in me. I'm like like you can stay in the shade with that job right and so I learned sales through. I convinced my Stepdad and they paid me like let's say you get paid three dollars and eighty five cents an hour but if you maintain a ten dollar per car average for the hour you made an extra dollar an hour rights might five bucks an hour or something like that right In so oh I learned how to work the system a little bit and and sold a bunch of car washes forum and got practice because on a Saturday and I did this for about eight eight years and on a Saturday there might be twelve hundred people show up. Then I get opportunity to read and Pitch Rita Pitch read impeach him so I got good at sales face to face sales real good right. I wouldn't scare to talk to people and but one day come in the marketing yourself. I was right. We're GONNA talk about this a lot here because everybody at home. Listen what he's telling you right now. L. Literally Hustle and a young age and started with what Car Washes Start Moss and mowing lawns. Awesome it's so what happens is when you grow up with a lower middle class. Family will say about a fifty thousand dollar home to maybe less than that in in you grow up in lower middle-class home and your father works as a car wash guy right probably twelve dollars an hour something back then you know you you. You grow up in a neighborhood. Surrounded by people that aren't really haven't entrepreneurial conversations right they're not talking about starting a business and stuff like that they're talking about selling drugs and that's Kinda neighborhood. I grew up in and my first business. Opportunity was not some multilevel marketing or drop shipping. Course or something like that. It was drugs and and in my neighborhood. I'm not seeing an example of entrepreneurs right but I'm seeing example of a lot of people on drugs so there's opportunity are there and this is literally the you don't need a business license anything so I ended up selling drugs and one very good at. It is to be honest I didn't do do. I was never a big drug person even though people the perception but because of that you know I dropped out of school early school anyway because all the kids made fun of me so I dropped out of school selling drugs. I got a full time. Job ended up getting fired from it because I I got cut in the attic. This is the worst job ever so I was an electric Russian in the summertime in Texas and I was about sixteen or seventeen years old which means that I did all the grunt work right and so I'm up in sealants pulling wire in one hundred fifty degree weather and stuff dude. Oh God it was horrible and one day I cut my shoulder on a railing in the for like a heating unit unit and I had to go to the K. Clinic and fail the drug test because I had some like pot in my system or whatever and So I lost that job. Someone into like four full largest go full-time into drug dealing you know and one night girl comes over and ladies do sometimes taught me into participate in a little little bit. I've been over to snort cocaine first and last time in my life and overdosed and died you know. I don't know if I'm allergic haven't tested again to see what the what the problem problem was. Right we'll just take it in. Its its value but I overdosed and died in man from here to the lake. The fire department was across the street from my apartment and if they want to call nine one one and then been there in two or three minutes. I don't know that I be here today. But they woke me up so that they could arrest me for obviously possession of drugs that that I have and I woke up in the hospital and they read me my rights and at nineteen years old. I ended up going to prison for for two years. My Attorney told me said I laugh now when funny at the time but he said if you'll sign this two years you'll do like two months in the county jail make parole your first time offender in you'll go home and I went two months versus ten years on probation or something like that. You're not sure I'll just go and do the two months loser. Anyway you know and and shoot two weeks inside there. They got me butt naked shackled in the bus line to go take showers and go to eight different prisons in two years. You know in the movies when you see the guy walk across. He's got his pillow and his blanket and his bag over his back. People are yelling guy. Do you had to do that. Eight frigging times. Yeah well and then they were like why are you always fighting like you guys. Keep moving to new places where people are trying to kill me because they don't know you talk about like some. Some people have a bad experience here. Why why are you getting awful? You Behavior Day movie eight times. What was that all? Because I kept fighting Titan. But it wasn't like I wanted to fight when you go into prison. They're going to test you and then it is a sick game in there somehow fell victim to let me tell you how messed up the do. My Life's been highs and lows now. My story ends up being here on this podcast but so this is how crazy my life life has been in and all my life. I've gotten accused of things that I didn't do right like in maybe some insecurity I have or whatever but a lot of that I do so much that people just assume that I did some of the things I didn't do right so I get into prison on there for four days at the very first place right so Vardi gotten in the initial. Hey welcome new guy a fight crap right and so now they put me in a job and the jobs to go out and bust rock with a sledgehammer because they're going to build some kind of a barn or something for the warden came in so I go out there and I didn't know that you weren't supposed to work hard. You know I felt like if you don't work hard. Throw you in prison prison. I don't know is it get worse than this. I don't know Oh you know what I mean so I'm just like sledgehammer and away on this stuff in the guards. They ride horses with rifles right. So if you move up they can they can shoot you a quick and so because you don't have chains or anything they're just garden you on horses and it comes up to me says I like the way you work. Come meet me outside the whatever unit at four PM when we get back today. And I'm like Oh okay okay. Whatever so go and meet this guy is apparently a lieutenant or something of that nature? And he says you're a hard worker. How long you've been here? I'm like Dude I've been here for just a couple of days or a couple of weeks or however long it wasn't goes tomorrow you're GONNA leave at five. AM can drive a tractor now. Wait Yeah Heck Yeah Dr traveling around five tractor you know like like I got into prison for being honest anyways. It's so I'm like you can drive a tractor and And so the next morning I show up and who better than whatever else you I'm driving it's gotta it'd be better sledgehammer ruling. I have a feeling this. Yeah you know where it's going I could already see through this so I'm not sledgehammer in anymore so it seemed like a good idea right so so the next morning show up the tractor. I'm driving one full of inmates that I wrote out there on the previous day. All the inmates like I've been here for twenty years. Now the sudden you here for two days and you drive in the tractor a kind of figure vigor those fighting again boom boom boom boom. They think I'm snitching her on some witness protection for something like this. There's literally guys on the Waiting List to get that job for ten years that are inside this unit and then I just show up. I'm white I'm young and that's just too bad things being in prison anyway and now the sudden I've got this privilege you know where where I'm working for the guards you know which turned out one such privilege after all and So they're moving me around for little things like that. You know that recurring little themes like that. I've it just ignorance. I thought it'd be a good idea to take the tractor job. Probably the boss was like we'll get this kid killed while he's in here. I thought it was funny for the listener at home. I think there's a great underlining lining amazing benefit to this that you need to learn from that is the fact that you were willing to go out there and give your all even imprison and even though all those guys are miserable. You're gonNA give your all even in prison okay. Within two days you get recognized as hard worker. Everybody else has been on a on a list to try to get this position position that you just walk right into within days. Why because your fricken giving it all you got while you're out doing what you're doing? This is a lesson though in life period period like literally. Yeah I mean that's a huge life lesson it's Be Faithful in the small things. And you'd be rewarded with much right. I mean it's and most people aren't like I'm here for five years and I've been here for ten years of barely getting a raise and there's a reason why you're not performing your miserable so you hate you. You hate your job. You don't show up and and really contribute do the bare minimum to collect a paycheck. and You wonder why you're not being recognized or promoted you know you show up and you overdeliver. Someone's GonNa you're GONNA catch. Somebody's eye will so passionate about this. If you're if you're flipping burgers at McDonalds beat the best burger flipper ever. I got a story. What Will Happen Ryan? What will happen? I I worked at Sonic for a week. One time Only food job I ever had flipping burgers. Mind you one day. I'm there and now. My Dad worked for this car wash with an abusive Stepdad. So things weren't perfect. You got beat up so I'm thinking Joel. The manager Sonics going to beat me up to a good job this young subliminal thing you know and I must have been fifteen or sixteen at time. I literally worked Sir late less than a week because of this instant I'm flipping burgers and I realized there's no cars out there so I go in the back. Nobody can see me and I start stomping down boxes so that we can can get ahead of the box. dumbed down after shutdown so I go out back. Load all the boxes into the before we recycle bins but load all the boxes into the trash dumpster. Come back in. And during that time they've been like five cars pulled in nobody. was there flipping burgers. The dude fired me on the spot before I could even tell them what I'd been doing. That's the only time overachievers ever really put. It just means that you're not plowing the right land to make things worse. That guy called my mom. I didn't go home because I didn't want my parents knew I got fired so I went and partied right and the guy called my mom this before beepers or cell phones so my mom's show I show up Jose man. What a rough day at work? She's like really because Bob called says you've been off since six in. Its twelve thirty to kill Bob so I get this job right and I keep getting bounced around but ultimately I get out in about nineteen months jaw two months. Yeah not two months and get this dude like this. Is My life still five months early. I've gotta they gotTa do a little bit parole. I know what I mean. I think I was on some mandatory. He's gotTa get Outta here and watch them in the free world notice written but this is how bad prison prison was from me that go around so I'm on a unit called veto one. There's about one hundred eighty murders in this place in about six or seven months that I've been there it's a three tier prison. Insist like you see very scary place. But I'm on the pre-release I'm not with the Aryan Brotherhood and the bloods and CRIPS and all that I'm up here in the drug rehab programs on. You mentioned that I just watched program those guys that's scary. That's no joke. You GotTa go through that section. But I didn't live with them right now but I still live with some savage. Because it's you're in prison. It's very high very you google. It's a very dangerous place and so I get noticed one that I make parole stupid. You're on the chain. You're going home sch- right like don't tell the other people that it's so but then people start yelling. Oh you're leaving now. I knew you were short time because you don't tell people how much time you have and you know you're doing a live sin and it's not like I'm out in six months you can. Maybe you like me. You won't keep me in there a little longer something so anyway. I have this cellmate. That is a John. Norman Norma's black June face tattoos all the way down to toe tattoos. dudes done thirteen years inside this place. And he is a monster and he's probably he's a nice guy to me so so far and he's I think the only reason for only reason I'm not somebody's girlfriend 'cause I probably weighed one hundred and thirty pounds. You know what I mean is probably because he was cool. Dude you know to me we I had little commissary money that showed up from a girlfriend of mine every month. He didn't have anything as long as US nicer right. Yeah Nice little business relationship. We've got going. Ah I give him all my stuff and I'm Outta here. I get to the next unit where they release you from because in Texas everybody leaves from one specific unit. And they're like once you make once they give you free world close. Then you know you've made it all the way I get to the part where they give me free world closing. The guy goes like this up. No you're not on the list. Looks like you gotta go back when I left prison. I gave everybody middle fingers in this lawn. Speech about you. Animals belong here and everything else in the next day. Shift me right back to that unit. Well Look Aku's come back to like I had a rough like no. You can't imagine some of the things I had to go through so when I got out I was like never brigand you know what I mean like never. I don't care about money I don't care about anything other than being free holy cow. That was crazy in there right so I go back to work for the car wash. I'm going to become the best car washer on the planet. I'm a washing waxen wheel and deal in scrubbing and rubbing. I'm doing it. All you know and this lady comes in I worked there for about about two years. I was a manager. Lays regular clients comes in there one day and she says I'm going to give you a job and I said Oh this is what do you do you know. Is it inside. I and she goes. She's yet is I. I work in finance and I was like what's that guy. LEGIT did not know my little eighth grade education and you know little James Patterson novels. I read prison when really paying off too well. So and so she's like in banking you know and I was like oh I don't know anything about that. I mean I don't even have a credit card or alone. I own that truck over there free and clear. My grandpa died not just paid the note off for like five five hundred bucks or whatever and she goes. I'll teach him and I said well I'm also a convicted felon. She goes all you'd be fine. You're not on alone right and this is backing the subprime mortgage days right and. She said that she closed me on the job. She said worst case scenario car wash took you back after prison. They'll take you back after the bank think now sold so I went to work for and in about two weeks. I do real quick though you got noticed by this lady. Why work again just like awesome prison all right all right you? Should you re team here. You're the best you said I'm going to be the best frigging carwash salesman and Washer and whatever else I needed to do while. I'm I'm here if I need to go in and and and arm are some tires and and do a wash myself or whatever again help detail because somebody else is you know Out Not sick last men or whatever you you stepped up give needed to be done. You shine in from a sales perspective right. She's probably came through the line enough times and you up salt or enough where she was like. Oh this this guy could probably sell some mortgages. You know so you just again whatever position you have been entrusted with for the time being do that to the best of your ability. Don't say aw when I want to be doing up and just be a complainer about where you're at now if you take care of what you've got going on now trust me. Somebody's GonNa Notice God's going to honor that and you're gonNA get elevated right because if you're the guy or the or the lady that goes in and your China you clock in at nine and leave at five right. If you clock. I leave at five and in between those hours. If you go in with the mentality of I'm going to do whatever I you gotTa do to coast by to just get one more day to go so that I get paid hourly and don't do anything than minimal. Well then you got nobody to blame. I'm GonNa do what we need to do. Tanaka fired. That's the most people think right right exactly huge so and let's take it back this exact situation. Let's let's say you're standing there in the car line. This lady comes through and every day you just negative. What can I do for you know? upsell no no politeness. No Oh report. That's being established as offering you. A job is just probably. They'll find a different car. Wash too you know and and you know you give give credit where credit's due my abusive Stepdad. who had literally beat me? If I miss cars you know made it to our hustled. Pretty hard around there. You know what I mean. 'cause I even as a grown man out of prison it could totally defend myself. Still have that that insecurity inside so it's crazy how things that are against you tend to work out for you in the end and I think that's that's where my whole story will end up. Yeah you know what. Let Me Throw my dad some credit here my father told me in. I remember because my father got custody short short after my mom because I blew the horn on that deal ended up going to my dad's anyways long story short with that I ended up remembering at twelve years. Old Him saying to me. What are you doing? It was the Saturday morning at frigging seven. Am We just got a school. Like what do you do on the weekend after you go to school. You try to sleep right okay. He says to me he goes. What what are you doing? What do you mean he's like you will not be sleeping in on weekends? Okay you will be up. You set your alarm clock. You're going to work with your step mom and then you'll have your job over at the grocery store and you're going to school. That's what you're doing and I hated it. I hated it to the car wash but I have to say hey. I used to get paid five dollars a dog to wash these dogs in a grooming shop. Because my step mom owned it okay for me. I'm hustling five bucks to get each Matz Right. That's a good name but it taught me and I have to give him credit because for him pushing me like he did so dads and moms that are out there. You know you might not love of what you're doing to teach your kids the right way. Now we talk about how our kids don't need to be spoiled. This is something I try to keep in the front and Ford of mine. There's no doubt that molded me the person that I am today because I'm willing to do whatever it takes to go wherever I WANNA go right. I want people home. The realize that's an instant impact like literally. This is a good trait. It's a good thing that you're willing to not do minimal to just be a slave to the paycheck to just do whatever it takes to get by for the day. No now. That's not going to get you where you're at this table and or any other place. That's great in life so I love that. Thanks for sharing that so it gets better. I love that story just keeps twisting and turning and saw take the job obviously and I like to and here we are today. I became successful at that job because I worked hard and about three weeks into that job. I Made Eighty six hundred the bus now while five six dollars an hour to eighty six hundred bucks man. I was Bill Gates like the dope game all over again for me. You know what Amina never made that kind of money selling drugs. I mean it was like that same. Oh this is a way you can prosper in life now legitimately you know and about about three weeks after that I made like another fourteen or twenty grand so do not sit in on you know. Thirty Twenty Thousand Dollars at twenty one twenty two eight years old when no bills no credit card debt no mortgage five hundred dollars in rent that I split with a check for two hundred and fifty dollars a month right so you go buy gold chains and rims and not. I don't know I don't own a gold chain by a Rolex was thirty nine you know and I'm forty now or I'm still thirty nine so I turned forty in October so I the first exotic cartels thirty eight in and it was a reward for multiple years. Earning seven figures. You know what I mean so I just. I'm not that I like cars in in watch. That's about it. You know seven dollar shirt here from Amazon that I wear every day of the week just a different one until they wear out. I've had these genes for six six years. That kind of guy and so anyway so I make this money and I I did things differently than everybody else so I start realizing why everybody was chasing real estate agents. I could go to these seminars like come here and learn real estate seminars and the people that signed up. We're definitely going to buy houses right and I had money. They're definitely going to need money. They definitely didn't know what they were doing. Or they wouldn't be taken the course side show up at Hawk like business cards outside of these seminars and stuff like that and it worked my way up to becoming top producer. I bought thirty seven homes. I ended up speaking for the seminars. All this stuff being the the kid that had the car wash paychecks. Heck's the ged and now have this portfolio. I start throwing parties and stuff but S- Nice House and start throwing parties and the COP. Stop Selling Drugs. You know what what happened. Thirty Properties thirty plus properties. I got ten or fifteen real estate investors I got ten or fifteen renters and real estate agents and people coming. I work from home home. You know I didn't go to the office anymore. Since we got the Internet at the House I just stopped going because we could just log into the Internet so I might have somebody show up in a beat up Kia paying me a five five hundred dollar rent check and then you show up in a Bentley. Picking up a real estate commission check. The neighbors accept was selling dope. Cop looked into my background. They kick in my dorm not even in town. I'm on family only reunion. But they find me like a day or two later just randomly at the Bank of all places cash in a cheque right. They arrest me because in the house there there was no drugs. Not even a sandwich bag not even remotely interested in that but there was a gun that my stepfather the guy that adopted me left in the House because I bought the house from him and I hadn't even lived there may maybe two weeks or whatever and they kicked in on this long story short. This gun is totally legal now but back then. It had seventeen rounds in the clip and you could only have ten because of Bill Clinton's Brady bill which is expired. So I go they arrest me for this gun. I beat the state case the feds pick it up the ATF. Comes and arrest me at my bank job like sixteen months after I beat the case restart the case federally and they give me fifteen more months in prison. I went into prison in two thousand seven for over for seven bullets. Yeah over now legal. It'd be like not even your gun. It was just happened to be. The previous owner. Wasn't there when they kicked the door. Well I beat the state case but when the feds want you can't beat them not John Gotti. I'll have that you know what I mean. Well look at the people that are in prison right now. For an ounce of weed yes same same thing happened right and that gun is legal in Texas. Which is why I'm beat the case? It's just not legal ellen in in Fed. So here's what happens so I could find a lawyer so I get a postcard in the mail right direct marketer uh-huh and the dude that's in the postcards very intimidating. Look and do not like I need to go see this guy. I need somebody who can Boston people around because I've been wronged you know and I'm wondering if I was wrong. I've already done my time but I was wrong. They wrong. They shouldn't have lashed bombing. I should have been home. There's lots of holes in this store. You know what I mean in still to this day. I'm like how did heckling go in. Jekyll put that process together. Whatever they could've just asked but cycle meet this guy's his office on the corner? MLK Malcolm X Boulevard and south. Now Game Jeff. I don't know how it is here in clearwater but I assume if you have those two streets running parallel to the rough neighborhoods and so I go down to his office. I meet with them in in in end up signing him up as my attorney we beat the state case. I think everything's over the feds come in and pay the Guy Ten twenty grand. He owned title companies. So we did some business there in the mortgage world to the feds come in. And he's like dude wearing a whole different ballgame this is. Why do they care so much about this? The city the city was scared. I was GONNA assume so. They turn me in to get a conviction on me to where I couldn't sue them is like do all you had to do is say. Don't sue us and we'll let you go. I would've signed that piece of paper. You know but they did so many wrong things. They were worried if I hadn't already been convicted felon. I'd probably own the city of Allen Texas right now since I was already convicted felons easy for them to shuffle paperwork and make things like this disappear in so anyway. He decides that he's going to run for District Attorney of Dallas County as a Democrat threat and a black man to things that have never happened in Dallas County in the criminal justice system. And I know that if I get my lawyer elected as does the district attorney. There's probably going to be some favourable things that happen in this federal case for us right and we're just in my were we go to work and we grassroots marketed. This dude he made history as the first black Democrat district attorney ever. And that's exactly what he did. He called the feds and got me fifteen months versus twenty years trying to get me twenty years. Had he not got elected. I wouldn't be here today. There's multiple times you'll hear me say that right so I go into prison. GotTa do fifteen months. That's basically a year king Go Walk in a millionaire. Three months in wife divorce me runs off with somebody else. Spins all my money tells come out twenty five dollars money again in two thousand and eight after I got two things that I know the mortgage business and car washes and I've been watching the mortgage business on CNBC. Just melt away for the last eighteen months. You know what I mean and I get out and eliminate halfway house and I get an ad for job. You guys are GonNa love this story. Miss this big story about God right for sure. I go and I play this job. Place called credit solutions and I go there there at the top of this high rise drinking red bull and they have headsets like us us on and shooting baskets Pam. Like dude I'm GONNA crush it here in Karachi and I go in and it's like a boiler room style interviews. He's like twenty of us in there. And you know the Jordan Belfort type comes in. He's like here's what we do here Blah Blah Blah. I made the second interview. Second interview was one on one. They hired me on a Thursday Wednesday Friday Saturday Sunday party and telling my friends do not job telling my mom I had to move in with him. I got a job. I'M GONNA kill it. This place is awesome Monday. They called me up. They say we ran your background check no on felon but you have to felonies. Don't come in today in that time man and maybe I didn't even cry when they told me Yeah. I was going to prison for another two years for crime. I didn't commit but I had to have that too man this thing is really a revolving door. You know like dude. I can't get a job. Oh I never I never ever applied for you know the other jobs. Somebody's recruited me in there. Well a really cried. Man had a lot to take in friend of mine offers me a job at a mortgage company and despite my concerns. I'm like dude. I just any job that I get. I just need it you know. I'm on parole and all the stuff. So ninety days into that become top producer mortgage company largest privately held mortgage company in Texas during bad times and I'm crushing. Doing Twenty thirty deals a month within three months. Right call tell people on back. I'm back in the game. We're running commercials. It's game on one night about eight o'clock and go in there to the coffee rooms eight in the evening. Because that's what top producers do they worked late and I go to get some more red bull or coffee or whatever was in there and I see on the TV. These helicopter like like SWAT team looking dues rate in the building in that building and that company and they've been raided by the FBI the FTC and some other stuff for fraud. I definitely been the top producer and had I not got that job like again. I wouldn't be here having this conversation so it was almost like at that moment like God sent his Hannah my shoulder and goes hey man. It's all happened. Just keep going and then a year later Obama signed something called the Dodd Frank Act and they wouldn't give me a license anymore so I do zip for my whole career in two thousand nine worst year on record to be in the mortgage business one hundred sixty three loans by myself. No team no help. All by myself made three hundred and something thousand dollars my cut on a w to the next year. Now that's gone so it's like every time I get some steam. The legs eggs are cut. Every time I get some steam I needed to find a job with no license. No boss and that was how I discovered Internet. Awesome because this is like. I didn't know all the INS and outs of your story here. But this is three can Men If people listened on the other side right how many people would would have so many people all right we're gonNA talk about more mindset stuff right and and and you you are certainly certainly person to teach this but how many people are going to just try and start. Something didn't work out and then quit right. You've Riggan making stuff happen in the UK. Okay at some unfortunate things that are happening to happen to you right especially the second time around words just like a random done that was left by the previous owner. Now you're facing having to go back to jail when you're working working your butt off to get yourself in a place where like you get in you. got the attention of the cops because you're so successful people wondering what the Heck's going on then you tilt frigging back in prison. You had to actually work your butt off again just to get this other guy elected to just fifteen months right and then you come back out and then it's aw can't get a job and like all these things over and over and over again make at a most people would probably gonna sit there and be like for concur. I you know the I why even try because the moment that I'd get ahead again it's all gonna come crashing down. That's been the story three or four or five times in a row now right a while or why am I doing this. But now you are years outside of that and realize no I'm not curse and there's those God God teaching me as some very valuable lessons along the way that I needed to learn because I wasn't ready for the to be big time right humbling. You in certain instances some some of that appeared to be unfair at times times. But there's a reason for it all God's moving these chess pieces of her life because just like Ryan. I got big plans for you unless you go through the ringer on some of these things here. You are not going to be able to do this. Big Huge thing that I have planned for your life and this our ditch there most people though are going to discount like God trying to just appall fuel new where I'm trying to take you right and they stop here up. quit up. Didn't work out this way too much for me to deal with them. Just go into back into a safe job making seven dollars an hour or whatever and hey I'll just download my lifestyle and stop living on roller coaster. least talk about the good old days right right right right right so man I mean just I already know people listening to the other side of this frigging inspired through the roof to say this guy has just had it all start. Start over again if this if Ryan can start over again so many times and now. He's he's on upward. We're going to have him back on the show again. A couple years take a laugh. About how little hundred fifty million dollars seen right but man. It doesn't happen guys. It doesn't happen unless you are willing to say that that didn't work. What's what's what's next? How am I going to pivot and figure it out right and you have to be willing to do it over and over and over again am I ask you guys because I know you know the answer to this? Who is the highest? Paid athletes in the world blissful police fall okay times a person plays baseball. That gets paid the amount of money they get paid with less risk to get injured to hit that plate and go to hit the ball how many times they strike out. How many times they don't hit the ball and missed the ball and hope to get the home run right? Eighty percents right so if you if you are if you get a hit it three times out of ten that means you're quote unquote failing seven out of ten times right you're Brigham Rockstar really. You're the best of the best. So my point with that is highest paid. They're not GONNA go up. They're not gonNA hit a home run every frigging time. There's going to be times they're going to strike out. What do they do just throwing what was done done? No because the money keeps them in place but they also know what do they do they go practice. They get better at their craft. You get three strikes to strike out okay right and another bat most once you got three strikes to go Out and other at-bats and other locations against other teams that analogy because it's so relatable to what all three of us have been through to get to where we're at like. How many times times have you guys struck out? How many times have you went up to bat? And you know what you missed the ball or you may be tipped the ball but you almost got that fricking homerun well eventually. Eventually the home runs coming. Is it going to be on the six pitch the pitch what is it. Are you going to just give up before you get the home run not in my world world and I know you guys is world. That's your mentality has to be out there. Most people are not even striking out two strikes and they quit you the argue with umpires strike hit with the ball. And Yeah exactly what you did roundabout way in this situation right Don. Hey I didn't get hired at that place that I would have been frigging right back in jail. I've I've been top producer in a firm. That's for fraudulent right. You got roped into that. Of course of course they probably made me scapegoat. It was in line to be. CEO's his idea you know easy scapegoat too big takeaways that our instant impacts one be the guy or the or the lady that's willing to go in and overproduce and do meaning y se overproduce your average individual. Whatever it is that you're going in and go do I can guarantee you there slacken? Okay all you got to do a little. Oh more than that and you get recognized and eventually you're going to go wherever you want to go because that is something that's not normal. It's just not freaking normal for people to want to do the best best at everything that you do. It's not normal. Do that right away right and the second thing is is that here you are. You're spilling all this out. Keep going and eventually what are you going to give up. No you're going to keep going and you're eventually gonna hit the home run. No love that instead impacts continue sorry decided sided. Hey it's all good. It's it's a kind of a long story by China even altogether so people get the points right. We want people at home to be able to do what you're doing and do how you did it. So that they can go and take it and there's no excuse mentality so all I knew was that I couldn't do anything with the license and I needed to be self employed. I was tired of this. You know starting all over stuff so I had a real estate agent that I did business with from the seminar stuff and I went met with them and he gave gave me some Ryan Deiss. DVD's and since two thousand and ten. So I've built a wordpress funnel following these. DVD's on how they showed you how how to do it right. And I sold an energy drink. I knew some guys from Church that sold MLM and signed up for fifty bucks under them and sold his energy drink. What like three? Am One nights being. This alarm goes off and I'm like Oh dude it's possible right like we made a mistake. Ten Bucks we made right so if I can do it once I can do. Two Million Billion Times. I've got a reverse engineer so it was like three in the morning. This person was probably waking up on the east coast or something and it was on energy drink. You know email from where we dropped some emails males tomb and signed up so I called them okay. How'd you find my I wanted to know I was a salesman and I did that for a few months. Built it to about six thousand dollars a month and then the multilevel marketing company changed the rules with advertising. took me out of the game. Then I thought all right so now oh I gotta figure out now I gotTA figure out how to do it on my own. I know it can be done. You can do it on my own one of my good at sales right. What else was I could just good at mortgages? Maybe I can teach mortgage people to do sales. Okay that's how I got started. That's where I got the name hardcore closer because mortgage closers are what they're called right. They close loans. And so that that's Kinda date. It always call me when I was a terrible employees because like when I was the top producer. And if I wouldn't have been top producers they were tolerated this but dude. I'd walk down the hall. I would like to business meetings. With all my plaques and stuff like that go man it's hard carrying all this winning around people and so but yet I come. I'm from prison. So they're like dude. That guy hard core but he's a closer you know and it just kind of kind of stock that's awesome in and man and you gotta remember. I was convincing bankers. WHO still aren't open to it? These days to do social media in two thousand ten. You know what I mean back then it was like oh I I don't believe in it and you can't make money like things have changed last four years right and this is nine years ago those. It sounds like the guy that told Josh Zony. Oh that Internet stuff at the bank. GEICO as that's GonNa go away phase. That's how they felt about social media in the beginning. If you remember like facebook do you. My Grandma's on there I'm GonNa you talk about business on my kids. You know and I still hear people say it all the time today. It was like oh I can't get leads for my business. I'm like do. The president of the United Nited States is on social media everyday like if the most powerful person on the planet is on social media. You should probably be on there too right and so anyway I start building up sales training business social media business in we call it. Break Free Kademi. I've I've had that. Since two thousand and twelve. We started off working with celebrities. The real estate realm so I would create masterminds with Frederic Edwin from million dollar listing in Josh flagg listing. Los Angeles and I would sell tickets to it and do stuff on the back in and like everything else those guys. They start winning emmys because I'm running advertisements for them in all reality trying to steal their thunder. But I mean nobody's advertising except for billboards and then I'm one of the first guys to ever run half a million dollars in ads on social media safe to say they won that year because of our help you know And they're talented. But I'm just saying mm-hmm then people get bigger egos in start all over again so finally in two thousand fourteen. I just stepped out myself and said this is what I've been doing. Here's the people have helped behind the scenes means and started running my own events. And I'd like to tell you happen overnight. But you know I've been self employed full-time since since March of two thousand and ten and and it would be until two thousand and sixteen would be my first seven figure years and entrepreneur and and now that the you know I've done you say one hundred fifty somewhere one hundred and fifty plus million dollars in sales from real estate mortgages digs for twenty or fifty million a year in real estate just by myself and didn't have very long career in it just for the fact that you know they changed the rules pretty quick you know now. I have a company that we do seminars. All over the place and we have regularly one thousand. Plus people showed up our show up at our seminars. I own a software company that has about four thousand subscribers and so as each each little thing that I learned along on the way each lesson each time I had to start all over. I learned a new skill set to allow me to build things. But here's what really happened guys in shared that long long story with you besides besides the entertainment factor is my life's been filled with like people say highs and lows my life's been filled with light rocket ship to the moon followed by rock bottom I'm with a jackhammer digging deeper millionaire. Oh Hey federal prison. You know what I mean in love and married. Oh Hey she's leaving you for the landscaper. Oh got all your money any backing successful again. You don't need this license right and so I'm like dude. How Light Happy Family in the beginning adopted lose everything get abused lose my name right right like school? The kids all these ups and downs of like Dude. I'm sick of this right. I'm sick of getting my act together. Only to have the rug swept out from under me and I know a lot of people author listening right now feel that way to bet you everybody out. There listening is tired of the rugby and swept out from under him. They're tired for those of you. That ain't putting in the effort. This ain't for you right because you're excuses abusive bs for those of you. That are putting the effort in and that are going through the trials and tribulations even just a fraction of what I'm going through this is for you because here's the big deal. Oh I got tired of these these losses and I only want to stay on up like I'm like a up and I'm tired of the downs right. I won't up in no setback. So how am I going to do. Yep So after twenty years of trying to figure out. I'm I'm almost forty now but after twenty years of trying to figure this out I figured there's an algorithm that runs this planet called the force average. Let's just say God creates the planet in order for the planet to function. There has to be some sort of algorithm that makes the oceans move our lungs breathe. The animals move there has to be some sort sort of algorithm that grades us. And I liken it to in math class okay. So this is how the force of average works and I'll tell you a parallel store. Let's say there's a an Asian kid it's is coming in and he got a scholarship in his him and his parents get to live here in America because he's really good at math came. They brought him from another country to go to school here in America and that's contingent on him being a citizen whether graduates the school with a or not right. That happens every day. So this kid's parents come over here and he's in West Texas Texas in Midland Texas K.. And his job to keep his parents here in America for him to stay here in America versus going back over to Communist China where we might be from. That's less than America. He has to get perfect grains. Meanwhile there's two jocks that play football for Midland. That are two. They need them. They're running back. The quarterback ain't smart taking blows to the Dome playing football for these years and been stroke and everything else. They're about to get a sixty five on this test. Which means they're not going to be able to play for the season but the teacher knows they need them in order to get revenue for the school so he's willing to give the whole class a grading curve as long as everybody else didn't make that perfect grade right? There was only one perfect grading court curve. We're only one perfect score. which messes up the grading curve? Now those kids get a sixty seven instead of a seventy out for a semester. Mr No guarantee of those jokes take that kid. Smart Kid out behind the barn and beat the crap out of them and he's probably Shane through his old town and all he's doing is being the best mathematician he cancelled. He can keep a situation. That's how this planet works the force of averages those jocks that are failing. They're about to take you out and beat you because you're doing good in life every time that we get ahead there's subconscious there's a subconscious blockage that comes in and says okay. Take your foot off the gas. This is too much too much responsibility. You're doing good you're too high. You're feeling too good good and we shut it down. Sometimes it's external things like for me the government and things of that nature right sometimes it's internally but there is an algorithm on this planet designed to keep us average average and when we break the average grading curb and we decided to do greatness. We lose friends. We lose relationships. WE LOSE OUR FREEDOMS WE LOSE. We lose sleep. We lose exercise. We lose energy all these things that we have to sacrifice to be greatness. The people that if you're truly looking to be great in life the force of average will claim so many of your family members and friends as victims it's GonNa going to be unreal because as you get bigger and bigger. They're going to start saying things like when is it enough right so they force you back down to average they say oh your greedy for money they force you back down to average average so all you care about his business they force you back to average right and it's not just in business it's like people getting great shape. We see people go through and they lose thirty pounds. Sounds in ninety days and then they don't hit the gym again for the rest of the year right. You know that this whole planet works that way. I got tired of it. And so I figured out that the the force of average average the algorithm that runs this planet has one job one job only and that's to distract you. You know why good because when human beings are in zone and focus. We are unstoppable. 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How To Step Into A Calling

No One Told Me

40:34 min | 1 year ago

How To Step Into A Calling

"Hi My name is Kelly and on this podcast. Hindsight is everything. Our goals to look back on seasons. We've been through through and help prepare those about to face the same things there's something powerful and knowing you're not alone in knowing someone has gone before you so I gather up some great people. I ask them all the questions I can think of and then hopefully by begin with better than when we started. I'm so happy you're here. Welcome welcome to. No one told me when I get to record some episode so I feel almost like I need to write down every word that said because I want to remember it. This is one of those episodes. They're just some lessons. I wish I'd learned earlier in some things. I learned over time just by putting myself in close proximity to great leadership my friend Heather put a voice to a lot of the lessons. I've learned that need to be reminded it up in a whole lot more than I need to learn. I feel like I need to stop talking because this episode truly does speak for itself. So let's get to it. There's no one told me how to step into a collie heather so we are going to jump into a conversation station about your calling and leadership and I know in our past conversations. I've said it and it still holds true. You have seen a lot out of people come into their callings. You have helped people come into that. I know you did with me. You set me on the path to figure out what it was to begin with. But you didn't I always think you'RE GONNA be in ministry. I was thinking this is so interesting heather that you went from a pretty specific field of study that had nothing to do with ministry ministry. So what changed. How did you come into that calling? Well I think that's the short story is tricked into it You know these poetic stories of colleagues them handwriting on the wall of off the horse by the the math. Is You know whatever the longer story. But I I decided I wanted to be a junior and it's because because I gone to epcot and in one of the billions there was this joint research project between NAPA. USDA and at tossed developed life four of the disdainful of as industry. And I've gotten back I wanted my life would seventh-grader were you have your airport. Weird one this exhibit this in NFL. aww I've come to learn that it's the woman most people consider to be the most worrying. Yes my four year. Old there in February chief developed tweet so she wasn't as invested as you were. We could say I'll go hurt again. In my opinion I'll maybe take for you a major biological engineering. I went out out of master's degree in biological engineering. And then at the end of my my master's degree I was invited to come to. DC for a year to work in the US Senate to work with senator. That was on the environment to Nettie. It was a one year assignment and so I I agree to do that. And I started going to the National Church. At that time we were still meeting in one church in one location. Say We're meeting the Movie Theater Gene Station do that a year. I moved back to our moved to Nashville. D Work eventually her to what I always be a long run on a job of getting the do and then welled up coming back to these the in two thousand one shortly after nine eleven actually to work full time for that senator again. It was at that point. That aren't matters to the produce that hey would you be willing to come on staff with a part-time for nine months oversee small groups and September. We're GONNA hire somebody. I should have gotten more clarity on exactly what that old were you when he asked this were. Were you in your mid twenties early twenties. How old were you? Yeah we've been I guess. The details eleven. Oh debate about twenty five when back. We don't think to ask ask more questions at that age. We're just like good. Let me switch really crazy. I actually when I met with him. I had a a yellow. I won't legal pads filled with question as we sat down to me. The other one started going the Zirk because a twenty in head crashed into the Pentagon in what we came to discover later if two planes crashing the World Trade Center I around that legal pad year later and realize I had a number of plushest I had planned after that. I never got insane in the crazy to the meeting was interrupted because you know I needed to go find my family is in. He needs to go on his family on that. Actually I was really the best part of the story in all of yet the day that I bet. y'All out of my husband to make your even something I wanted to be. Never actually it is. That's crazy George's of meetings and didn't didn't get any questions but I'm sure there are all been questions about that. I would have even thought out. So so were you hire when you're GONNA hire them. How long getting killed seven soldiers from the time about? Oh yeah the Levy so you know. Working full on the hill part time church three and a half years later her still working still no higher still haven't made that higher yet. Is that what you're saying. Well within before those on bucket even though he started talking to me about coming on I I'd never going up and up category for a couple reasons. One OUTTA mouser screen engineering take notes that came from the shooting for you on the hill and that being the Gig as well. Yeah the training for what he's out and then the other issue is is not for myself yet Could would do what they should do Eventually all in what he was offering the position he was acting in the fall of entirely. Sure I could do so. That was another kind of an attorney needed to go now making a long story longer. I got the job and had been in. You know I prayed I did. I saw council. You know everything that you're supposed to do to figure out calling in. I did everything you're supposed oppose the duty you're the voice of dives and I finally waived I. It's also interesting. You know what I was. Fasting dumb was incredibly credibly pocketing. Not about what I was about to him. Do I stay go back in engineering and I take this. The ministry role in God had a lot day just never answered the question. I just look at the most breach wells feeling the most field the old world traveler and when I looked at each of those question the answer every time kept coming back to what I was doing the church into that put putting. Yeah I mean it sounds to me like you were attracted to it. I'm GonNa back you on that. That's a pretty accurate description for how you ended up fulltime at. NC uh-huh interesting. I you know things that I think. Sometimes god-given it does the bill would go into the vines woman little white towards the of making the digital reminded me when we were kids. We used to play church coach You know about the my abnormality. Noble kid was stern outside church. It was this little window in my yard. Wide thing that God was up to the didn't materialize manifest for decades. But you in your life we can go back and we can reverse engineer. If he's calling again input on what you just said you know you could look back and you see a little windows. That's it so important that you have people in your life that are helping you see that what you don't necessarily see you know your sister pointing out remember we. We used to play charity like you. That probably would not even occurred to. You had someone who was close to you. Who Knew You who knew your heart in ways that maybe you didn't end it is it's a bit calling? All of those. Things are such big words and intimidating words. You know. I talked to a lot of people in their twenties and a lot of the time. The question that they ask me is how do you know what your call to do at now. I don't know why they're asking a thirty year old question because good gravy. I'm still figuring it out too. But they ask having no. You're right like what if you get wrong or can you miss your calling another some of the hardest questions to answer. But what would your response be to those questions. I think it's really hard to know in your twenty with crystal safety what you're called to do beyond just following G.. Yeah there's one thing and I know with one hundred percents certainty are twenty four. Paul too is the follow Jesus to be obedient. Achievable and and I don't mean over spiritualize Oregon we super spiritual about this at all is calling developed crystallize in their fight over time. We enter into certain experiences now. There are certain people in in the Bible that God showed up to engage the call. And you know it happened. People on Abraham and happened to people like diddy in two married to Paul. Most of the people revival vitals particularly the pack and we just look people by most of them found themselves just kind of falling into their calling because they were obedient than situations but they were you know when we think about people like Esther and Daniel in the Amaya they were just being obedient. In the circumstances they were put in God in Moses's them and built the pop. Ah for I think calling a little bit. KALEIDOSCOPIC there's what we're called to do who were called to do it and where we're called to do it and a oftentimes twenty. Those three things not come together at the same time because their seasons alive for God is developing in the character we need to sustain sustain the calling in so. Don't try to get on the big platform because you want your failures to not be in the spotlight and you want your platform to be very slow when you fail. Failed your integrity and character and I the beer at all of those things are born Indian grow You're in your twenty. I heard people you know. Become a personal territory. Develop the character you need thing on. Your character is more important than you're palling. Anyone honey. Just follow g the obedient. Every step of the way and just responded obedience to circumstances Bo. What about you mentioned? There's a you're getting it wrong. They're certainly going to moment in my life. I feared getting wrong. One was coming out of high school into college for I. Absolutely would second-guessing accepting the Biological Engineering Co. suits and I remember telling God I'm GonNa stay all night at this vision of like Jacob Wrestling God in my mind. Yeah tell me what I'm supposed to do. And what I would describe as the inaudible but unmistakable laughed of God we putting question forming. Do you really think you haven't messed it up before. Because I was so scared of getting it wrong. Aw I'm so scared of making the long so you're the victim day weekly minimize property of God. I'm not saying that we can't make the decisions or make stupid mistakes or allow to how the delete us off the course Alpha. The votes are Stanton's when we are generally going after God obedience. What he is to do he got him and he will get us to where he wants to go? Yes we're GONNA make mistakes eighteen us. We're GONNA make our but there's probably gonNA choose the path. His Navy was not you know in the note with awesome about God is he works everything together for for the good of those who are falling warnings artists and for his glory. And so we just have to trust that God is GonNa get us for God wants to go and he wants to get unwanted. We want to get their Haiti breath. You'll be a negative Spain. mccollum well and you know. I've heard it top talk to heather. It's exactly what you're saying. I love that you said those. You're called to do your twenties. Jesus and it's exactly what you said. It's your your head data pursuing Jesus it Kinda hard to get it wrong because you're so centered on who he is and what he wants. I've never thought about it that way. The even the conversations I've had with a lot of the leaders who are coming up behind me right now. You know a lot of it's on. Okay let's say that you you have a grip on what you're meant to do. I know for me I I went in scripture really really hard in my mid twenties and God was pretty played through his word what he wanted me to do and it was I meant to build platforms for people to hear about Jesus and AH thankful for that but once you know that heather like let's say you do have it in your heart in God. It's been pretty clear. How do you get to do it like what you're now you're you're trying to get there? You know what you want to do and you feel like you've got a pretty good reason for it. So what's the balance between humility and Hustle. Again the words. I'll choose like Wendy. You wait faithfully out and see what happens versus. When do you just go after it as hard as you can question and and I think the answer to even change depending on the season that you're in and I doubt who questioned I have to regularly go before God rent? You know you. We need to make this happen for you. Want me to wait and just received it in a moment you want to give it to me. There are two things I value in young leaders like I'm looking for people who are both have humility hustle. But I think those in perfect rhythm and balance the person or even in developing that in rhythm in my is really difficult you know knowing you pursue the platform and when you bought them for sue us again. I don't have to be mutually. I think you can have hostile. Didn't melody and I think sometimes humility that have attached to it is really about humility to work together again. It's the vowel being obedient. It's about doing you know what you've been asked to do. And I think it's about leadership has to be given to you by someone else. Talk will be given to you by someone else and I think the more you do the little things like. There's a big thing Opportunity when you're faithful in a little. You'll be entrusted with specific young readers. Learning to walk do that season warning to walk that his reinforced. And I think I can just a little bit brand of the story. I share with a lot of guns eaters. Just about patience and perseverance because I think the hardest things to do is having patience and perseverance. When you know you're jumping and when you know you're ready ready to years ago as a friend of mine who is a former talk me enough tearing and to just Out Me do not carrots purdue and I was like actually no she said well. Here's the deal. If you want to plan geared Brown and at the end of that season you can harvest to carry it. It's a perfect carriage. It will take Garrett's. Sounds like a carrot the carrot. But if you want that character reproduced. How result Begawan phone line to have influence greater than itself? You have to leave that here. At the ground let it over winter. Her and the next season the flowering stock shoots up and the leadership weapon in that is. Sometimes you feel like you know what your calling is and you know you're ready and you see other people getting picked over you you know it might not even be of high thing you legitimately. No you're better than they are but for some reason you got picked over and that we have to trust the timing of God. The navy he's wanting to do a deeper work in a- can make our influence more reproducible. Or laughing the bigger than what we're able to do on her own and so I think it's just being able to be pages in the season and being showing hustle and what you have been entrusted with and doing it with humility and showing up over and over and over again I is what makes the difference. There's a book which is course of lost the name of right now. I'm a leader by Bobby. Clinton talks about the different stages of leadership that in your twenties and thirties. What God is most after is your character in your forties and fifties? That's when you're beginning beginnings step into your sweet spot. Where what you're called to do all who you're GonNa do it with All align and then your sixties and seventies at times like pass it on to the next generation and I think a lot of in our twenties and thirties frustrated. Because we're not getting endings. Do what we want to do instead of letting that character really shape us taking to rid making some big failures so that we're ready to step nor sweet bought lots when you get Kinda the the forty fifties and a big part of this and that's what we touched on just a minute ago is I've been extremely greenlee. Blessed lucky to have leaders in my life who helped me identify what I was good at. I look back at when I first started out. I had no idea what I was good. I was Out Anything that came my way aid. It was the the trusted leadership over me. That helped be kind of figure out what my sweet spot was. And I'm still growing into that. I'm still figuring it out. What what it is? And how. It's changing and shifting when I changed shift but I love just the idea of just Kinda put your head down work really hard and and like you said do the small things like they're the big things and you mentioned early in that and the answer to that last question that you appreciate wishy when you see young leaders who have that both humility and hustle and they. They're working on that balance you appreciate that. What are some other attributes this that you appreciate most those were coming up behind you? What really catches your eye? Yeah I would add to that humility. There's hustle and then I would also Asthma Hunger. Somebody is really. They're not satisfied with where they are in their growth. So they're hungry to learn. Go hungry to try something. They're they're hungry to to continue developing and info within those categories of humility hustle and hunger. There are several things. SELENA already mentioned. You have people that are willing to do little things like this big thing and not make a big deal about it. I you know when I see a young leader. Who's doing in something? That's not their job portfolio. They haven't been asked to do. And they're not getting any credit for it but they're willing to serve that little thing and they're doing it like Vicky that catches my eye. I I think people who ask good questions and people that when they want time with the bring a notebook and a pen that demonstrates hunger today you know I look to people who writing down and you know want to come back and think about the practice. The things we've talked about you. I I really value people. There are when young leaders that they intentionally look for ways to add to my mind that take a waste of my time in in years by that and I love meeting with Deng leaders. I loved it down down thirty minutes an hour cup of coffee. Let's talk about like leadership. A love down love having people my life leaders but there's some young leaders that are very clever they will just get get involved in what I'm doing so that they can get more time for mentoring or get more time for growth and they look away at value in add to my calendar allender instead of just trying to think that another thing that I don't really look for that but one thing that I noticed for current leaders right now this kind of piggyback off off what we just talked about how do you empower those. Who are coming behind you? Who are spending that time with your strategically placing themselves around? You can learn from what you're doing. How do you empower them too late? How can current leaders set up? WHO's coming next successful? So whatever I engage agent like a new project or if I'm doing a brainstorming meeting or you know opting either team to work on a new project always with the three groups of people one is who can bring something something to the pasta either. Because of their experience. They're training their knowledge expertise. They add value to the content dump the project for who can bring from one to the process. Meaning they're going to be up brand evangelist because they were a part of this. Maybe they're not going to be the one that adds most value but but they're gonna be able to bring the most people along and then affirmative I look for is who can get something out and processed and usually those are young leaders through who by just being around the table are going to learn something absorbed something and maybe that point to help them in the future so number one is just bringing the table. I want young leaders coming behind me in current leaders that need empowering to be at the table brainstorming to be at the table decision making to be not at the base in the room where it happened And let voice count in that state. I think take them on the road. You know in in a previous you podcast where we talked about community. I talked about how Ryan Enough I actually have people come live with pursue I also in the like try to never travel alone and that's not who I have a a moral check. You know somebody to make sure I'm not doing something not supposed to be doing something. Because when you're on the road with someone it is amazing time for them them to learn. You know they can again. I can act promptly coffee with them and talk about you know how to be a first of humility and how to be a personal tough though and all that but then when they see how react when my flight is cancelled for the first time or are respond when I have a rousing ovation ovation after a conference speak. I feel completely on top like seeing that taking them on the road. Give them an opportunity to see leadership in a very Jerry Ross and then more importantly navy introduces them to a network for the next They're the ones getting invited to that platform that would the third one is just put them on the platform gotta give opportunities communicate an opportunity to lead put them on the platform and then finally give them the decision. We have tower the leaders coming behind to make the decisions and sometimes I think as leaders that means we have to have the firm it when we know they're making a bad decision sometimes we have to step in and keep that from happening because we know the ripple effect will be devastating organizationally or relationship but but sometimes we have to let them make mistakes and then as their leader take the heat for it and that how they're going to learn and if we don't empower empower them and give them opportunities to fail then they're not going to learn all the lessons about leadership they need to learn so the more we can give the vision for wage even if their decisions. If we disagreed with I think that empowers leaders coming behind US hither had seen this play out. I've just learned this probably within the past year it has been one of the most real lessons is that I've learned just the powered believing in someone and that's exactly what you're saying is hey let me give you this platform because I believe in you and what you're capable of doing it when you have the at behind you. You've maybe I can do this like they think I'm capable. It makes me feel like I am capable. It's just that power in Dan in believing and even you know the what you can learn from proximity a Lotta Times. We think we have to have like these sit down conversations you pretty image ordered right now give me all the knowledge in your head right now. If we don't get that we think will we're not learning anything when really for me. The greatest lessons I've learned have been based on approximity. It's just been exactly what you said. I've watched how leaders have handled situations good and bad. I've taken away huge lessons just from. I'm watching I mean even for you. Do you feel the pressure of that a little bit too. I mean I'm just thinking through these scenarios would you're in those leadership positions that does make people are watching coaching. Like they want to see how you handle staffs hopefully all eyes on you. I hope you pull it together that when the Washington nationals lose next John. I'm just I don't know there's two moments his fourth part with Church court. The Paul's at imitate me as I am a price and I've always found that challenge really fascinating because on the one hand it takes a lot of pressure off of leadership doesn't mean you have to be the smartest I in the room. It doesn't mean that you have to be the most illogical or be the best decision maker best communicator. It simply means saying it's just an invitation ain't follow me off polygram doing on you as I'm doing marching with Jesus but on the other hand you're saying imitate me and I don't know any given day so much I really want people take care of that gravy. I hear that which you know is is. We're leading those coming behind us. Got To remember that the most important personal over leader ourselves and we've got to be leaders that are worth following so yeah it's a very big you know. There are scenarios when you're not necessarily in that leadership position then maybe you are just you're in proximity to it. Maybe you're close to it. Maybe get to partner with a strong leader or maybe here. Maybe you're at home and and you're trying to to lead your kids toward Jesus whatever it might be. I think in every scenario in every season there's a little bit of leadership to it. But how do you lead. When you're not on paper in a leadership position do you know John McCullough all right a lot about leadership and but use the word influence in any talks about leadership really influence and everybody in Florida? Won't somebody questions. Are you influencing them for the good or bad are you adding value or subtracting value. I think in an organizational initial setting. You're learning to leave. I mean obviously we. We tend to think of leadership is leading down like there's a hierarchy on the leader and the people following. Yeah we've done but but there's also leading a cross like leading your peers meaning across departmental. You're reading reading people that are you know on kind of the same level as US organizationally organizationally and then there's leading up. We actually have the ability to influence the leaders that are above us. And I think that's kind of what you're getting. How do you lead when you don't Oh path title and or you're sitting in the second chair you don't you're not on the you? Don't get selected decision and I think one thing there is. I think we can learn our leader. Her the more we can be students are leaner and learn our leader their preferences their rhythm whites their dislike. Didn't we can conserve their vision. Better when you're serving the vision of another I mean this has to be genuine. It can't be thank thing. It can't be a OH. I'm just doing this so that I can influence. The reader knows that you are genuinely honestly committed to their vision your have influence in that state and so learning. Your leader leader. I think is is one step to that. I think this being consistent you know helps you influence again. It's began doing the little things like there's a big thing. The minute we think the task below us the minute are info against the way you know again just continuing to grow your character to sustain your calling when you're in the second chair or are you don't have that leadership title you have to leave Br Aleisha and and not really I actually. There's some big benefits bleeding. I think I think when you have to learn how to lead relational it makes you leave the showing much much better. So having seasons of having lied relationship is is good in all unhelpful. Because it means you get the input but you're not the one is left holding the mess. It doesn't go well. Yeah Yeah you know of in do you. Don't you can influence without being the having the pressure of being the final decision maker. I actually having seasons of leading alongside or leading up are really better position to be an than when you're the one organizationally and positionally in the leadership role you know there's I just through surveys and everything else. We have learned that a lot of our listeners. Our position to be leaders. That's coming in their future. And and whether it's through personality or through position there at now or relational weather at while you just touched on it's coming down the pipe and I think thank practically. I always liked to get kind of practical. With how in this season. Maybe you are currently in later or maybe you have it. You have sites on it in the future water ways you can grow that area of your life. You don't want to be the kind of person who gets the physician you're like what am I doing. What is what? Why am I s position? Listen what am I meant to be doing at this point. And sometimes maybe you're thrown into position and you don't get lead in that position you know you're just kind of expected to figure it out. What are some practical ethical ways that you can get better and grow in this area whether it is at home at work or in your community group or whatever it might be what what could that look look like but I think about personal drug and again I want to be leaders? Horse falling lead ourselves through a lot of good but if you getting like the growth plan for somebody coming behind us but on the other hand stars Lee you know I I think in terms of more four-category rhythms routines relationships and resources For me is about having certain things and doing daily weekly. We think maybe monthly maybe annually For example my husband of a monthly meeting is on the calendar and we use that time to go of our calendar on your to go for our politics already talking about budget on the part of our regular rhythm and it helps us as a family helped grow it was parent Celtics blow marriage. We have an annual prayer retreat. That we do on an individual level I take my year divided into you. Know Solar for between sixty eight Stephen to rethink wrote. We think I'm GonNa Start doing this. New Habit starts this new thing And I'M GONNA to do it in infinitum on the opportunity and then we're among them in like we're bored or working anymore and we just quit for me of biding your when you get to the rhythms and I put in practice different routines within Keith out to stain -able so you another monkey a one season of the year where I read the entire Bible and you know fifty days another rhythm that tip you know. Maybe I'm reading through proverbs. Maybe understanding rhythms import like rhythm that is sustainable and then team those are the things that you know the spiritual discipline the doctors doctors in China gory too. I tend to think in terms of what am I doing spiritually to grow physically to grow in my intellectual capacity on a leadership. That's where you know warning thing and then Y- dentures or experiences dot Tagore's could be by. They can be financial. It could be relational. What are the routine things? I'm doing to essentially role in each of those areas and so with leadership. Leadership is usually an area that I've got two gold old then then if if looking at resources so what books reading podcast include. What led Catholic coffee and I take a cut of fitting syllabus together author growth in that area leadership or close to that area of of central development that I'm wanting to and the more he had a great relationship? I'm always wanting in sort of thinking in who is investing in me and then to have the ability to athlete anything at any time for any reason about anything in life so I think those categories rhythms canes relationships resources but I think about growth and that the fresh keeps it something that I'm I'm elitist thing. Yeah one year He. I keep coming on Kate. What what aren't you mentioned that you you will get other great leaders as you? Listen to podcasts water. Some that you listen to yours are pay special attention to one that document forever again up. Carry Neuhof pod walkout. Yes it really. I probably listened to a couple episodes. He has so much content. It's insane but I'll probably listen to a couple episodes this week because they are gold argues. That here's what you've been there Any family has a podcast for leaders. Amasi not Israel regularly and maybe it is true that I just pop in and out of that one honestly I deal with the exception of maybe Jerry. I tend to look more for specific. Topic topic is opposed to lifting. Like one person yeah regularly and I think I got up podcast one upon my phone would so loaded with podcast. I didn't have fun to listen to that. I just thought but even those overwhelming I knew I would never bring that number down. I just needed to stop right so I guess I kinda big your what topic wanting again in in one of my wanting to lean into right. Allie it could become a better communicator. The other teamwork don't WanNa grow in managing contrary to you. I I figure I wanted to the Gary. I want to grow. And they'll go find specific. podcast red casts or Webinars or cloth. We'll even dividing your year. Most great leaders are are pretty disciplined. People like it takes discipline to sit down and say I'M GONNA divide it up and it's not always comfortable. I know for me sometimes. Sometimes it feels like well. I've got other things I would rather be doing than sitting here and thinking about my year but it even when you said that you and your husband sit down and go over south. I thought we should do that. And then and my second thought was will never do that but it is it all in like interesting project. Yeah I just didn't know what it is. Yeah and that's just what I appreciate and I think that's like what sets a lot of people apart as the ability to have that discipline and to no. I'M NOT GONNA love it while I'm doing this. But it's GONNA pay off over the move later on that upset Dan Ryan and and done that. So that's one huge takeaway away for me. 'cause they are just some some things. I'm like disfigure herself out. There are some things that I'm going to get a little uncomfortable and have the discipline to sit down and plan so I can't grow grow into into a better leader person. In general really better wife Ryan would really appreciate that shared calendar to come about on what he would really love that heather learned on the last cast. We love finishing are episodes one question. And that's what are you so happy someone to tell you about. I know you had mentioned the good replace before. What else are you into now WHO GETS PLACED THE AD? That show is amazing. Here we talk about how much a nerd I am even beginning in seventh grade. Is You're saying any seventh grader. WHO's favorite part of Disneyworld? There's something about bio engineering. Yeah I'M GONNA say you're a little nerdy and I love you for it. We're just GONNA continue riding that train. I'm GonNa tell you that an author that I'm really right now housing Mark Nanos and he is like a historical theologian that looks at the lives of Paul. And the reason I his book is he's looking at all. Aw as a Jewish man. Most of Paul's writing most of the New Testament was interpreted by gentile a non-jewish people and what Nana's Hannah posing as if we miss a lot of points to policy making in fact we turned into a lot. We started a lot of arguments. That what Paul meant when we're totally missing the point of what he meant because we're not understanding him within his Jewish culture and history so anybody like kind of geeked out on New Testament to prevent typically providing ball. I highly recommend. Listen I was prepared for you to say something that was going to go way over my head but I'm actually very interested in what you just said. Really Fascinating stop in. His writing is very capable. And I really thought you were GonNa say at the Mike. He wrote a book about Paula logistically. The how they biology near the sand that he walked across. I'd be like you have missed her audience. If you think we're GONNA get hurt in the USA front. I've actually extremely interested that does sound I would actually reading that so to shady you heather. You got me there you you got all well again. I can't I'll never say it enough and I'm thankful for the way that you pour into the people around you intentionally in with the the wisdom I think I have about two pages worth of notes from just this one short conversation so we appreciate you heather We're GONNA link to the book that you mentioned the authors that you mentioned and we're GonNa link to your books we mentioned in the last podcast that you jumped on here. But those are anyone who's seeking out community or how to build it or how to maintain it these books you get in your libraries will only as well heather. You're the best. There is. Listen I am not going to say go. Lsu I know you're a big fan of this. I will say go Washington nationals. I Give Matt just because I love baseball. 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#75: Chemistry with Joe Part 2

hopnology: Hop Growing and Brewing for Craft Beer

39:13 min | 3 months ago

#75: Chemistry with Joe Part 2

"Back. I'm Greg. I'm James. Face. That's Joe pointing out. Pointing Jill Arts. Interesting. See. My screen down they're. Not. GonNa. Tell you pointing. Sitting here so NOBODY PUTS JOE ON A corner. So yeah. So a few watched a previous episode with Joe or listen to it on all we talked. Wicked Super Chemistry about agricultural formulations, and there's way more to talk about their and accidents notes so that. We might pick up some of those other details at another time but. We just want to talk other stuff. We don't talk about beer. We want to get the honest to God chemists perspective on. On craft beer on all things, craft beer on Roma Science on trends on you name it and. And Joe Your Own Palette and how things have shifted and change and why have they changed and then play on Greg's make jump there Greg's hoops dance monkey dance with all of his games. Absolutely. Enjoyment to bring up last time. So I knew the podcasting world but when you do this. Here's IT air quotes. Right, I will say quotes next time. I did that I thought your cloud. Usually. If I was at work, I'd have a big whiteboard behind it'd be drawn all over exactly. Yes. I am paralyzed with whiteboard. Swear to God it's hard especially when. Some of these things because it's easier to draw pictures, sometimes you me and you mean Dr Balls used to have to our conversations nobody say anything we just drawn away board. Times funny because it's true. Dr Balls Yeah. I call them Dr Balls because he didn't give two shits about what anybody thought of him was going to say he'd just say exactly was on his mind you've done the ill if he thought he was being stupid say. God's play. Stupid. I'm fairly certain union DR balls a new show coming to the cartoonish. It's on Hulu or Netflix or something. Guy We. That is the happen. We could that could be a sitcom absolutely. Anyway. Why? Okay. So your chemistry I think what we're GONNA do watch fear chemistry I mean everybody hears me Yemen on about. Aroma Science and and chemistry involved burn chemistry in Blabbity Blah Blah Blah Blah. Blah. But. I am. Half chemist Joe's full chemist. and. So I'd just I'd like to get. Sort of let's Greg. Let's just throw some of our observations and things we've talked about the past and see what Joe has to say about him about the industry about trends about. You know just perspective on what's happening. And get just get another perspective. Absolutely. So I mean Joe. Left we don't recently we are episode that cokely's we hate. That was so much fun. Record the the feedback on it has been wonderful. Yeah. Arctic. Cathartic as we thought it was going to be. The end we were kind of depressed. We were. About the state of things instead of it started with two grumpy old men saying get off my lawn and ended with defeat. Exactly, yeah. But the point and bring it up is that you know we. We see these things that James I hate like the the. In the in the the pace reporters in all of this ridiculousness that goes in there in the bias I know for me and I, believe James from you as well is that that's how you mask bad brewing. Crap in their hide things. That's I. think that's a way to to mask. Bad. Burn I think. It's You know one of my favorite lines from the Bruce Gretler's is. You, know the line about. What a Burma twenties a lot of good ideas. and. It's like really another one what they actual, hell. And why do you need to pile on four different adjuncts and toasted marshmallows? I don't get it Joe in the. Back in the day, unite have long friendship and almost almost as long as Reagan and and I've known each other not quite. But But we were big into the craft beer thing back in the late nineties early two thousands and your pallets wandered you're not so much into the beer anymore, and I'm just be curious to get your perspective on on that. So some of it's probably just getting old I. I I don't. I I actually like. Flavor up some hops. I do not like. Overly. Hop things anymore I still like a little bit of a better I like but I like to have clean. Flavors verses before maybe it was more muddy. I was kind of you know like a you kind of learn. You're like Oh. This is new. This is new especially back. Then when everything was kind of new than you know Madison was kind of a hot spot. For a lot of. Different things coming out so it was nice. Able, to try. Before that it was like a Guinness. God. What. I am. And I don't think. I had. Twenty, twenty three. Twenty four or something that was like, whoa. This is a dark beer that doesn't just taste. Like hurt like this is amazing. And I still like tennis. I think some of it is I. I'm not sure I might actually have an allergy or something to the hops because I if I drink even. Drink. One Barely hoppy beer I'm okay. If I have to I, get a raging headache migraine level headaches. Zola that's actually triggered me away from that, which is why I drink a lot more ciders now. But to get that. Similar kind of palate where you get. Better with with the intense flavors, I've actually switched GIN. And Not London style Jim but like botanical sure Because, you can get a little citrus with you know with a little bit of that better. Of this, but it's not necessarily overwhelming and you. Have, you had a garden gate Jen from waller shine. had. To, get to and all of that when I come down we'll get Like that? So. I guess I talents changed that way. There are still beers that have were when it's hot like you know it's really hot right now. That I'll go and grab I really love local one called Day tripper. That's an idea, but it's it's good. I probably lean more towards. From indeed right Yep. Yeah, unfiltered. IDEA. I like that one. Especially when it's hot, I do IBM. I was in Germany in. Munich. You're an APP AGO and Had Amazing. Was the dunker. I can't remember this out there. and. Then I would and then had coast more on the on the western side if ed. Fantastic, right. So I love. Salt like it's one style, but I think it's the if it's clean I don't like. Triples and whatever they're so have I can't even one sip and I'm done I don't want anything to do with them. I think you're too hard. They are they are and even to hear you say things like Dunk Ohio and. I mean, you're you're pulling styles out that ninety percent of consumers. Don't know what that is right. Yeah So. I. If I had a choice I, mean I love English style bidders like. A Lot. So that would. Be. Love. Let me grab the ESPN closest to me. I cheated I have a bottle of everything. Right? Next allergist is you just pick it up? Yeah. I'm looking forward to trying that but. But we have some local I mean, there's only one esp, really it's from Fuller's. Just get that out there right now. True but there are you know I've been lucky. That way we've had we have some good breweries up in entities area that done. So Nice styles are still you know a lot a lot auditees out same thing all the hazies and the juice season, the blah blah. Blah and I can't there's a couple brewers. My wife loves one of them. His ups. Early a lot and I can't really drink stuff. It's too. It's to overhaul and everybody that. They're brewery their brewery and they're on their their garden fantastic food churchill place great restaurant. It it. Yeah. And our beer's awful. Of other people like it it's way too over just way over the top for me so. Wrong Just, saying. They they could be. I'm not going to tell my wife that. Way Over attenuated it's the gravity is way too high it's totally not balanced it's just an abomination. By world joke. Welcome to my world. This don't take him anywhere that I like. Right. Yeah. However. Indeed does an outstanding job and so does. Bad weather bad weather is really good. Outstanding. Sears good job. Yeah. Not Too bad. Lift Bridge LIPPARD's has some good deere's. Steel Toe, which is a smaller place has acceptable but they don't it's not like a regional or young don't. There's they have some really good stuff. With next time on Reina. Easily dry down Madison include story my trunk with Random Assortment of Beers cause. Because then I ain't. I usually grab There's a gas station pie in there to least usually oh. Sure. At. The Gas Station Pie? because. It's Wisconsin. Cheese gets filled up on the way back maybe some passage. It's easy. peasy. We're good neighbors. So. It goes I like actually many different things if they're done well, there's a lot you're like, oh, I, like the style. Should spend it out. I'll zere style that you just you won't even try anything I like. Doubles Triples Russians. Russians a hate any Russia really. Interesting. Is Is it too heavy in the mouth like the. Audience Heavy I think. So can that must be it because he wouldn't like the Belgian triples or doubles or or anything I've actually I tried once and I literally like I knew. Somebody working at the very at the time and I lit it was like I think there's something wrong with this. Like it was like a candy Belgian. and was like there's something wrong with this and they. To, their credit. They're like they took it back I I like one. Maybe I was like Oh maybe bottle I tried another one and was like Oh, God reported out. Came A four-pack back. To the credit, they gave me a six pack of their. Their main one which I liked Ed. On so They said. It's supposed to be and I'm like. Are you sure? Some of that I mean it's like the counterpart like. Some of it's really high sugar loading but some of it was I'm pretty sure it was the east. and. From that one, I've had other Belgians. Style. and. I actually. Do Think AC- east use because whenever had one? It's been off to me. And I can't explain what just didn't taste. Good I I've come to realize it's probably could be just donald generally the east now I do like some of the. Family or the. Liberty. lambreks. I do like Vicks no phase the same style you spend maybe that's out the window or the fruit just covers it I don't know and the whole. Lamba. Processes souring. So there's victory involved in not so don't. Don't confuse the two of those but I think you're onto something there is a. Friend of mine. Yours who's hop grower in Belgium and he also has a Nanno brewery and he was here. Three years ago to visit and I drove them round. Came through. Chicago had a good time. He brought me some of his beer that he made from. Missouri and. Four seven, fifty mil bottles that we promptly drank. One seven. But. Totally, not over attenuated no added sugar multiflora dextrose or anything like that. Just Very Square well-balanced Belgian type beer with. Native Belgian type Yeast, and what I came to realize is that and he told me this before he came, but you got to experience it. A Belgian beer that's made in the US is not Belgian beer. It is. The SORTA like. Mexican food that you get, and the US is not Mexican food and we've had Mexican food. and. Yeah no Taco Bell is not a good representation of Mexican food. So. I was the same as you Joe I was like Belgian no, no hell. No no way. Until us, gave me A. Education on Real Belgian beer because I hadn't had visited Belgium and. Wow. I'm like holy crap. This is amazing. He said Yeah you're not going to get in the states but if you can find this brewer, this list brewer and I think I've told you guys before. So there's a beer bar in Madison called all house. And that's one of my old man. Caves where you know there's no TV's and no music no kids it's awesome. And that's all they do is great beer domestic and imported, and I can go there and get some of that. Belgian beer that's well-balanced. It's got an interesting edge to it. It's not sour it's not funky it's not. Syrupy. Spicy clove and banana any of that bullshit going on but it is different and that to me is Belgian. Beer? Yeah I think another style like. I do. So for strong player, I mean, it's not like I don't like strong flavors because. Maybe. It's not as strong as some people but I I really like rise like different lifestyle ribe. Your friends. Scott Making square pig US quarterback is so. As. Ridiculously good. I've ever owned I had that I was like this is one of the finest things I've ever put it in my mouth transcended. Can we have that as the bumper? Finest things I've ever put. Yeah Yeah Square peg is divine. Forty. Percent Ryan in that bill, the MASHES. So fricking thick, you could walk across A. Fantastic. Yeah. So I mean. As, much up here. I forget the name of it but. There are a couple of year that have really arise to like, and you don't find him everywhere, which is, I think you have to be a really good burda pull that off because of that balancing the Ri-. Intensity. But when it's done, right it's It's really quite something while that and you can wreck your mash because you get a stuck fermentation because the. The Beta lukens that are in the Rye can. Turn Your Mash Tun into. A solid chunk of cream of wheat if you're not careful. And so doing step mashing or decoction mashing, and making sure you're doing glue kinross in order to get that. High. Amount of Ri- certainly forty percent. That's ridiculous. That's most berets don't go any higher than ten because you get that stuck Nash problem but. If you get balanced, you've got a lot of those spicy. Notes. That come out of there is that can be Kinda peppery that can be overwhelming for some folks. and. So. kind of going can jump it back a little bit here to are used talk like we. Going back several years, we've talked to many brewers about. He's choice right in. There if you look at winemaking, it's actually kind of fascinating how they bread the East to release compounds which can be good or bad depending on. How much but a lot of these style compounds in James tacos about those the four. For captains and other things that can. See. Greg. Didn't make those words up. Not Accuser. Big those. Style. So we're sore clear circling. That you can actually release wrong graves right and they drive those black currant. Tropical, a lot of these, these flavor profiles. Those compounds are locked away right. So they're not just sitting free in the plant. oftentimes to get them to come out, you need an enzyme to basically cleave them. From whatever they're locked on whether you're protein or Some other cellular structure within the flat. And by releasing them than can be extracted into the solution are brought into the solution during during. The brewing process Ed. With the grapes they, they figured this out and that's why you can take the same grapes in used three different use and get three completely different flavored wines out of it. I know that happens a little bit embroi- but I don't think it's been played nearly as much as it could be because things Completely, screw up the thing Cascades, for example have. Some of these components to them they're just not well. It got sixty percent of the they have sixty percent cascade has sixty percents. The M. P. Four and P.. Which is the characteristic file that's in our captain that's in Simcoe. So people say, Oh, you know what? Back six years ago nobody could get. Cinco. And where say well US cascade cascade doesn't any of that character? Well, no. Not if you drive above one, hundred, ten degrees, you drive whole style mackenzie off. But if you get a hold of cascades that are dried with no heat I e. What we? Propose. Then you have this high levels of foreign MP that give you very. Simcoe like character. So there's that there's the. The impact of the horticulture and processing on those aroma compounds but then Joe to your point talking about. How you can have these aroma compounds that aren't free until they're cleaved like glutamate. Glutamate and. An Aroma. Compound little glutamates or near all glutamates Sicher. No. All glutamates. That require that cleave that has not been played with nearly enough hammering and it's But it's so new that. People don't even know how to measure it or how to how to capture the information they need to know. To manipulate. And it's and it's also not cheap right? So if you're a small brewer. You're probably not going to spend a few hundred dollars on on yeast rice like. You're. Making this. Bats of wine or whatever I'm going to use it but to try and experiment that that's that's hard and the big guys aren't doing it because they don't have to because they can afford or they can get their hands on the materials they want. So I, mean I don't blame people for not doing it but I think it's one of those areas where. That could be a lot of exploration. We had and then. Go down this this this line a little bit. Any. James and I worked on. Several brewers on. Extraction I know he's talked about that before too. But how do you get? The maximum amount of. Your you know these essential oils out of the plant. Without. them off or having them completely oxide is. AC Don't have them anymore you know. So it's does any to sit there for three days. Now does it need there for three hours babies? What temperature. Is Looking at Hundred and Hundred degrees C.. Which is boiling or are you looking at fifty looking at thirty like that? All can change these profiles because. I know it's been talked about with volatility an oxidation. So when when we used to when I was score sally, we would talk to brewers all time as. I would often in this goes. Back into the come to quality standpoint. I often talk about like, why would you WANNA RUIN Your like you've got a pallet a paint like you can paint this wall whatever you want, why would you take it and wish all together and make Brown before you ever started right. You want to keep these things as close to what you're getting as possible. Sometimes, you may want to causal reaction you may want to put it in so it does get oxidized. Because that will give you a different flavor profile, but you want to control that. And if you're just taking whatever. All that's been taken away from you and your only less with what you have left. You don't have that whole Palette start with which part of why we always talk about temperature drying and making sure things were sealed properly kept cold. because. Oxidation which is just reacting with the air. It it changes things and they see that your house you yellowing on walls or. You know dashboards the cars gets aided things like that. That's just all do uv light, but it's oxidation of that surface. So protecting things from that is a great way to. Keep your options open to say I. As a chemist, you want especially if I do formulation work for living multiple different areas and. You don't want things to happen until you want to happen when you when you put things together. Right you don't want. If you do you're not in control of what you're what you're dealing with and and it's tricky as a buric because it's a dynamic system like it's the whole process dynamic, right everything's changing you try to be at the best brewers are. maniacally consistent with what they do because ten minutes here or there can actually have a huge impact. On the quality coming out the other end so That out they figured it out by doing. This whole thing we say you know, hey, brewing is forty percent science, sixty percent art, and then sometimes when we hear that, I, feel like that's a cop out. Because you look at the winemaking industry and people say, oh, wine is such a such a simpler. Methodology. Well, I'm not going to say which ones you know more complex or more simple but. In general to say that. Well, you know I'm going to do this there everything. Inside of the sphere that I know how to do as brewer and the rest of its black magic. It's like call bullshit on that. We know the. The individual aspects of what's going on and maybe the individual master brewer? Dan. Neglects does this takes copious notes an experiments, and he knows his system inside out as much as humanly possible which gives him a huge leg up. On his competition. But. What about everybody else? What do they do they for marshmallows in or glitter or I don't know balloons or whatever else they're going GONNA put in it in order to try and get an edge instead of focusing on the why and the how of the system. That no I completely agree it's hard to be. It's hard to be that exact. They're like every brewery doesn't just. Have the a a beer multiple beers that knock your socks right? There's always those people. Who Rise to the top you like you've mentioned in and Scott Manning like you had these guys locally that. Look look at their awards like they're always towards the. It Madison's not a big. Relative to the rest of the country but. Their existing right when they get to that part now they have creativity and how what am I, what full file my going for? But the. So they know what to ask him what to look for in their starting materials. But that, and then they used their process than to drive off the these waterfall comes. So yeah, it's. I mean you've I think you mentioned one podcast the Saint. Humor, they were on Dan. You know selecting the German style hops or even when he's like our hops and Note these are quite right for this. I mean. Exacting and I, know that happens at some the big breweries to. Hide it because you can. When you go to extracts another thing you're using that or or. If you own. Your hop yard basically, you can drive some about. Craig. What do you see? So given what Joe just kind of explain to us about. The science of. Brewing and how it's expressed. Is that even a concern? In your area of the country. I would say, so I think it's just like anywhere you've got you've got your brewers who like Dan Cabbie who? IS A. I hate to say scientists but but but yeah, I. Think What Hey? Come on. You said that was a bad word. Gets me page. Right. In the sense that he is used the phrase before he's taking copious notes, he is more he's he's more scientist than artists and I think that has the bad connotation right and and you know you're. You're using August, I mean there is there's artist there's the brilliance of artists and then there's the artist of. Crappy here and see what happens. That's I think that's unfortunately when they say those things about six science percent art that mean by art, it's I've got some crushed I've got some Morio chromos that were left over from my lunch. I'm GONNA sweep them in and see what it. Hey what are you going to do is all those old oyster shells can I have those? I was born. Right so I mean, it's easy to bash that. But do think there is a part of that and when dealing with adjuncts right because if you. There's a critical is that where? I like this. Flavor profile I li- covets smoke deal is whatever that is I want to impart that in its beer. Okay I can be very traditionalist with it and look for you know try to find the right blend of hops. It gets you that doing especially if you have the you know like anything else you have to have that background knowledge of. This one gives me this character. This one gives me that character this you know down the line. So I can mix them together and get what I want. But if you're like. Know I really I really WanNa pull the blackcurrant through on this. He could just add like her right. You have to be careful you don't over. With that but. Ask never understood. We talked to We talked to brewers. We were looking at mixing botanical with hot pellets in order to get. A given character, rate. And there was A. There is a huge. Resistance to that like it was somehow. An abomination right? What you're doing or they're exactly and so we're like wait a minute. So I can take a base hop and Knicks other botanical into it to give you exactly the profile looking for but somehow that's unnatural. Yet. You will use yeast from your beard. In. Your Beer. and. That is innovative right and I don't I don't get it and I think. This is complete speculation, but I actually think some of the German Daryl's. People know downright they. Sort of know them they know about them and they think Oh. Yeah. We got you know beer came you know. We We gotta be pure and then yet like. Candy Sugar and year and. I'd never. and. As I talk about. The Fall Pumpkin beer and when you make that and how you make it and when it can be really good like you're never going to get that from. You're never going to get. I mean, it's all people don't like them but their shanties out there right now right there blend. You're getting there by adding H use with. A beer. You guys are up by leinenkugels shady kings. We see them here. Shanties. Are Thing rattlers, Earth thing and For. Those of you who are drinking boozy Seltzer water try rattler you might like it anyway. We digress but Greg I. Think. We ought to hit gray hit hit hit joe with some of these. some of this. Beer no para no questions if you got any. got. So, Joe. We do this on occasion and these are some of them are real beer names. Some of them are it's just crap we made up. So, you need to tell the difference tell us if any of these aren't actual beer or just something stupid. We came up with that someone out there should make would be. Okay, you can do. You can we can't? Get it right or wrong you're supposed to get them right. So some of these are one. Are, no. No. Okay. This is not this is a yes or no situation it's not complicated. Vega complicated. Yes. So you're scientists Bouillon binary these. What does the Euro? For. The first one blasts from your spice. Weasel. I don't think it is, but I think it should be. Okay. This is something James said about forty five minutes ago. About beer it's got to be some sort of over spiced Belgian propel for Jill. Has. One SIP and I dumped the rest on the drain Chris Mr. That's that's. Put it Ryan top of the list of Suzy's. Priced. Okay. So you mentioned you mentioned this style before creepy uncle uncle. Probably. GotTa be. Real. That is a real beer the Munoz oven brewery very where. The moon under water oven brewery I don't have the don't have the location here we got. To find it. Hundred. Whole bottle of drunk in the basement. Uncle and I liked uncles there in St Petersburg Florida. Pete's changed my mind anyway. A. Covert positive right now. But. They clear that up you can go back and try one. Yeah but. Next one here. Not Nurse Ip, A. That's real yet. That's that's right near me. That's at city steam brewery here. Very Dear Yup. Yup. Okay another style you mentioned before Kong Coche. Seems like there'd be something in New York that somebody would make that. I'll say, yes even though it's probably Why and somebody should make one if your yard they should. They should not. Hanging off the Empire State building holding a Mug I mean that's of course. Yeah. Builds all royalties to great. Empire Brewing Company right there. Oh perfect. Okay, next one don't fear the porter. I'm GONNA say yes because I like it so. I. I made that one up and that was real. Allen. Then you need to make that London. Fargo, and so it out in the middle of nowhere where they you know it's dark. It's just They don't go for that. Can't see through it. Jeez. Yeah. I that. That beers kind of dark there can't. Go Budweiser there. No, there's no bread wiser air at all. Grain Belt Minnesota tied. Bad knowing. I like great. uh-huh. Next one baby got buck. On a continuum I'm just going to say, yes content. Like it that again. Horny. Goat brewing in MILWAUKEE. Yup Horny, goat. Got It all going down there. She's do they. At my last one here for you. You don't win friends with Salad. Oh. That's like everything I would hate a beer. I will take no. Friends and you'd hate salad really both on her spiteful brewing from. CHICAGO. Did, they just is a grass clippings is. Just tonight tonight. So yes, I feel it's probably a wet hop. Yeah. Woah so. The beginning there. Then you had a couple of missteps overall pretty pretty good show and I, have to say. Joe's pretty some pretty much some sapir entire career doesn't. It's not. Good. Enough. All right. Well, we're going to call that wrap. So thanks for joining. Thank you Joe, we'll see how people respond to this to see whether you come back or not but. Like a thumbs up and down counting poll. We're not supposed to talk about it or when you lose all your Patriot members. Like fight club. I'm so. The only other like Gorse valley alum we've had on the show is Dan so. You gotta be gotTa beat the Dan Ryan. Episodes Oh that's I'm sorry I mean I can't put myself up to that standard I want I didn't have six strength during the taping true well, actually. Episode Dan Head Three Manhattan. I felt I, can listen to after a while. I. Mean That was Oh my goodness. Joe. If you come back. You know as as a resident chemist I WANNA do a whole episode on the best delivery Manakin mechanisms mechanisms. Best delivery mechanisms for Kane powder I want your I want your input on how we get. The answers drone but. Journal. Though work under. The finest things I've ever put it in my mouth.

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Woo and You - 094

The How-To Heretic

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Woo and You - 094

"Welcome in to the how to heretic i'm mark among the dan ryan local doug and this is you user's guide to life on the outside that's right leaving religion is the first step into a larger better world but it could also be a scary world things work differently now never fear that's why we're here we're here audio goes in with help from good friends and expert in all sorts of we're gonna share stories and seek the knowledge to build a great life after all will only get one but we knew or so you better make the most of it on oh my gosh uncle guys yeah we are the uncle guys episode ninety four more questions to do answers were never asked what work i think it's the other way around a no no no it's more do what we can more unanswered questions unanswered answers whatever the fuck it is a what a week it's gonna be great yeah absolutely this episode by the way sponsored by jazzercise carlsbad california thank you so much guys there thanks guys jazzercise a it's what keeps you uncles fit ducks right lifestyle so doug you're gonna talk about a guy yeah i'm at a time we're gonna talk a little bit about a whole josephus and why he is not foundation upon which to build yes indeed a that's a that's a good one and then a mark you're gonna tell us well i'm gonna talk about this plague of of a chinese intellectual property theft an explosive report and there's also a weather report so we're gonna talk about eastern lightning you're gonna you're gonna love it you're gonna you're gonna blow the doors off of that one right the fuck and then i and then i'm gonna teach you how to this time it's what we we started out to do so i'm i'm gonna talk about how to spot that will yeah it's gonna be great it let's playing fast and furious you know how to pick it up let's jazzercise are sweet s's right through doing hey mark yes a here's the thing when when uncle doug and i went to mend ties together a few weeks back and we i believe it's pronounced mendy men's high we we we we spoke with a guy guy who was a biblical he had a bible museum many had all these artifacts and whatever that's called a biblical jag off but yeah exactly artifacts they were artifact adjacent there was some of them were artifacts in the sense they were three hundred whole years old right they affect similarly facts yes artifacts similarly who's a i think we're not worthy port mentos that you were looking for you anyway a douglas unless you we you you got into a bit of a of an argument well we we try to avoid it like we mentioned before but you know it's just he just just laying out things for us to pick up became very hard not to kept he kept dropping that low hanging fruit exactly where where three people that will take bait at some point so so tantalizingly i thought i was gonna be so good knows i know i i'm giving him the i'm waving am i i'm don't bust the tower and then and then the icelanders i think i was the first the first one who actually engaged on something but i was just trying to give him a little a little job and they go a little pokemon go but no doug needed to dive in once you open the floodgates yeah and he had a big he had a big guns drawn to bring out right we we we ended up on the somehow we got to the subject of the biblical in her and she basically he was saying he could prove the bible is a hundred percent true textually right right with evidence and then so we got into that place in and we were talking about how the the timelines of the gospels don't match up in these events happening don't match up due to a that was kind of his response to his you know big is big a counter argument was not exactly and we were trying to talk about how the writers of the gospels were not eyewitnesses to these events they wrote right about the end he dropped he brought up josephus which yes who is my favorite blues guitarist is that the one were talking about today should be great i mean we have no evidence he was who also did not meet jesus christ exactly i was taken aback because it is such a lousy apologetic jack i'm surprised people still run to it but he went right there and he did it with such a like reverence infidelity it was kinda like look man here's the here it is josephus nugget out right right so when he dropped his quill right it's like most apologetic says popularity has matched only by its flimsy this so i thought we could dive into white titus flavian josephus is not the catching of the golden snitch the christians thank you so i don't know what the heck yes you do let me continue you read all of the harry porter's like seven border times i never did i never did you saw the movies kind of paid attention anyway so josephus this was born yosef ben method yahu around thirty seven a c e n g i wish they would use i wish they would go to the metric yahu apologetic rather than the funnier doesn't even were actively yeah you guys know about a d a this is true they did a hissy jewish rapper named modest yahu don't you know yeah that's a real guy really you know we got it will do him another day yeah yeah so again with everything in this period of time dates approximation but just so were clear scholars argue exactly when the years zero falls in the life of christ shorting with some arguing the geez what's his oldest for but let's be generous and say the jesus was born in years zero as most christians believe he was guys even better luck crazy but let let let i will also be generous and assume that there was actually a man short fitting the description of jesus right so if one near zero that means he was crucified any you're thirty thirty three c e eight four four years before josephus was born so obviously they never met but the larger point is as you you're right they did back jesus came back you don't know that's right you did maybe they met it tamala then i blow 'em just the josephus high tide yahu so the robbing a lot of streams here i literally have no idea what we're saying anymore so the larger point about josephus isn't he was born in jerusalem at the very time all of the book in the only be events in the book of acts were taking place so the pentecost the conversion version and ministry of paul the martyrdom apostles cetera what's happening in around jerusalem when josephus was growing up right okay right so great time to be alive right in the fact that he doesn't mention any of that stuff is somewhat interesting but will just stick to the things he does mentioned somebody who's interested in that's right that those those years you is into holder horticulture josephus the family was one of jerusalem's elite and josephus benefited from a good education and his family's many political connections i mean i started out as a jewish militant fighting the roman occupation a fee fought in the first jewish for a first jewish roman or a sixty seven see he surrendered to the soon to be improve spacing who decided to keep josephus as a slave and translator on they funny little story about that surrender josephus in about forty minutes rebels were cornered by by space in in his forces in a cave in galilee just secrets propose they commit suicide before the robust could capture them and all but two of them did exactly that oh what an asshole what an asshole okay everybody on three and then it's all that's left is just him and one guy going wait where we going on three or one two and three go oh well let's surrender so while in captivity josephus claimed to have had a vision the spacing would become ever which is not a bad way of going about pleasing you're captor and right when your ac in did descend to this highly highly motivated highly motivated prophecy that that's a win win myspace did become ever he granted josephus his freedom it was it was at that time but he changed his name defected to the roman causes entirely and was granted citizenship and yes he was most definitely considered a traitor by the jews at the time in many even now sure a because oh really was a traitor only because just because we stretchy which i don't think it's fair that no come on guys look at both sides of the issue look if if america in twenty nineteen is taught us anything a little treachery between friends that got him on what's a couple of minutes and then otherwise perfect life with space you know ember fell to his son titus declutter rebellious jews and titus simply josephus as his translator historian an adviser yeah so this rare position as a member of the jewish and roman aristocracy stock crecy is white josephus had basically front row seats were pretty much every major event in palestine in the second half of the first century see so it was kind of an amazing confluence of events makes josephus his history is very important yes right so he traded up he traded up and what who's to blame in like why isn't it isn't upwardly mobile guy yeah he went on to write civil works at survive in whole or in part today most famously a the jewish war mb antiquities of the jews which chronicles the politically a military goings on of jews written from the jewish perspective but obviously fray gentile audience so okay these two where it's very important to scholars of this period of time 'em a i'm just a quick side note josephus i think we already established this is a bit of a deck right aside from betraying as people he was a real shit back to his enemies and used his status to exact revenge on his critics and enemies some serious in some petty a he divorced three wise before sticking with his fourth and although he never practiced it he was a proponent of polygamy yeah sure why not so okay let's get to the heat of the meat as a historian of the first century jewish politics in and around palestine palestine palestine palestine you say however you want my segment josephus mentions pie apologist pilot herod the great and several other historical character and political groups that appear in the bible confirmed everything he says is true right exactly those ones exist here's the thing those people existed exactly and you wouldn't you would therefore expect a historian at that time to reference from this proves nothing about the actual truth the bible anymore then the fact of bill clinton appears in the movie contact prove proves that's a true story right so he does mentioned john the baptist in antiquities at the jews in which is interesting only mention of john the baptist outside of the gospels end it is believed to be authentic by scholars so the reference the josephus puts in in this book is a to a jewish legend herod lost his army because he had killed john what's called the baptist so there is a there was at least a legend about a guy named john the baptist in first century palestine 'em however that's that's another problem because just seafood state josephus states john's death the thirty sixty which is at least some years after the death of jesus and all four gospels have john the baptist dying before right or even that little thing we write it it is a fact that when their mothers met the fetus is left inside their tommy so i mean i don't know how you got that wrong i all true bible fact yes indeed that is true i i also wanna say the legend of john a heated not plan all those animals seeds i don't i don't care what anybody says yeah they were fig trees just delight only succeed the jewish version of course why magical and rightfully because that's okay so let's get to the mentions of jesus by josephus a the first mentioned is in book eighteen chapter three verse three not long but it's a little bit lengthy i'm gonna read it so bear with me and this is according josephus now there was about this time jesus a wise man if it'd be lawful the call him in for he was a doer of wonderful works a teacher of such man is received the truth with pleasure he drew over him both many of the jews and many of the gentiles he was the christ when pilot at the suggestion ingestion of the principal men amongst us had condemned him to the cross those it loved him at the first did not forsaken for he appeared to them alive again on the third day as the divine profits had four told these in ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him and the tribe of christians so name from him or not extinct at this day that's pretty that's pretty definitive that's pretty definitive i mean he josephus names jesus told cnn i'm a christian again yeah well there's just one problem damn it was total forgery the total for dream interpretation it's such a fulsome quotation about jesus and it's been it's come to be known as the testimony of flip slavi on him but it's it's a total fake it was dropped in my mania is added the josephus is where exactly by or zealous christians probably in the fourth century yeah so yeah it does feel like come please like it like it needs no contacts it's just whole uncompleted itself just rammed into the middle of it manages to get some anti semitism in there and if you reid looks like just a few verses before and after it sounds totally off right the the languages different yeah oh yeah and it's been proven to be yeah it's not even authentically josephus which is specious on any exactly what it was like how scary we suddenly specious josephus say that end wakened yahu appears in the mirror so my question is like what what what motivation does he have what motivation does aj former ju turn i guess pagan roman court today to be a to the upper what motivation is do you have to say the jesus was the christ right now and that's that's one of the big leering things in there is like why would he say he was the christ right that's just that's just saying like joe smith it wasn't that wasn't right right how does it well how does it serve as a master which is clearly what this guy was all right exactly well and even even seemed to serve rome at all does it end it'd be like believed the jesus was the christ and decided that he wanted you know he wouldn't have put it in just because his master would have killed him yeah for it right up i know i know i know the jews killed christ i know all are listeners and that's what happened but they were roman nails in a robe and cross in a robe and hammer so yeah exactly it was the romans it exactly a and so this is it's been proven with software and computer analysis assistant this is pretty much lifted out of the book of luke in dropped into this text right so one thing we know for sure is it is corrupted information inadmissible in any kind of court right so only to mention is one of them is a forgery here's the second one same book a book twenty chapter nine verse one it's in the context of a larger discussion about some politicals goings on he says quote festus was now dad and al venus was but upon the road so he assembled the san he'd run of judges and brought before them the brother of jesus who was called christ whose name was james and some others that's the that's it right so we got his brother his brother and it's in passing it's i mean it's it's in the context of the book it's like four pages long is well right so that's that's the that's the only other mentioned in just savers that's it that's it on my god and that one was not probably a forgery no they wouldn't seem to be authentic so so what you're saying is he's trying to identify a person and he says this this person was next to the brother of the guy that some people called christ exactly exactly and and one thing it shows one thing it does prove is that jesus had brothers so suck on that catholics yeah exactly well and the other thing is like this i know is the pastors that is used by many a people who study ancient history to say yes there was physical manner real human named jesus who was a prophet and claimed to be the christ so a that's a possibility i mean it's it's compelling evidence that there may have been a historic jesus the history of city bearing in mind though this was josephus wrote this book about thirty years after jesus had exist sure if he existed in right so i you know they're in the same way that the judge there's no there's literally no evidence the john the baptist existed outside of the bible and write this one mission by josephus right so this is john legend of a guy here that merle a lead yeah guy now this is the brother of a of a legend of a guy right exactly so so and that's only meant check inmate right and so here's the thing nobody is arguing the christianity doesn't exist or did it didn't have a beginning right right even if one reference in josephus josephus voluminous body of work is in fact referencing that jesus the early christianity basis based itself on all of your work is still in front of you christians yeah right exactly you you've gained zero zero ground yeah no one is disputes the in the middle east in the first century see their drool legend about a preacher with healing powers with eventually crucified by the romans came back from the dead and left the earth the fact that a historian at that time mentions that legend is not proof of anything thing except existence of that legend right which no one is arguing right in the first place at least with big foot we have some big plaster casts a giant footprint so exactly that's more true if side future historian of this time period references ventures as some kind of cultural phenomenon that doesn't mean you're ventures were real right but what if it meant as a tony stark's brother because i think the west is movie you have to help you got alabama dark just just think about the shop and it's right up a man he's not very good so all of the other stuff in the bible the cleansing of the temple the water the feeding of the multitude of the healing none of that is bolstered by josephus mentioning jesus's name one time right so at the end of the day josephus was a traitor in a shit bag not exactly the character you want vouching for your face he references jesus christ and hundreds and hundreds of pages of minutia one of those mentioned is an obvious forgery any other is a passing reference to his name only so what if we actually yeah exactly a what do we proved here nothing now in fact it's christianity was taking that region by storm has christian legend would have you believe the fact that it only appears one time in josephus is tax is actually proof that legend is week yeah so yeah again this is not aids foundation upon which one should build your house yeah i agree well i mean look there are plenty of apologetic out their summer stronger than others but yes if someone says the word josephus do you can you know have permission to giggle have adam yeah and that is this is the primary mary a source material right this is they all go back to well if you reach josefa yes with such a in like intensity because none of any other contemporaneous writers like there are other people that wrote contemporaneous lee of the history of the mentioned jesus like nobody's talking about it so like the one guy who says something about it and it's like basically what he says is it sounds like and then david koresh his brother who called himself price you know that could be that's very clearly a toss up that it's not like you're very important mr you know poke at high as the third whatever that is it is definitely just a throwaway end the romans who wrote down everything yes in in a language that has never been lost right language that has been legible without any gap in time even though it is very hard conjugate verbs i'll give it that a never wrote a thing down about it it especially specially here this stupid oh of the passover we traditionally let one random criminal go which i ever happening right there they're big special let a criminal go out of jail free one day you think they would have written that down now automatic lead waterway go about doing so there is water wick wide awake all right well thanks uncle doug for clearing that i feel enlightened let's let's move on i'm convinced let's move on handled doug what a i sorry i cut you wanna whereas like that a win win win you're looking for look a lot of our listeners have recently left religion a they're they're out there they're they're basically flailing about not knowing what to do with themselves right maybe they may answer is the join a new religion maybe the answer i mean you don't have to throw the baby away with the with the proverbial bathwater right just throughout the baby keep the water just keep the water you could make a nice babies stu got yourself a stew baby yeah i think you know justin smith did the same thing right where he's like well what what religion shuttered belong to and i think the answer is try them all right exactly you're gonna find one that fits or at least one that fits you into a place she won't be able to get out of and and i i have just the thing for you guys today just just the remedy for what ails you her off the now as your listeners may know guys so much of what we buy and seeing the world is made in in china it's a big nation of over a billion people a at last it's flexing its economic muscle in a very big way as well as as as china in the past has caught its way out of the horrors of the great leap forward and the nightmare of the cultural revolution the average person's quality of life has improved and that's a good but it's important to keep in mind that new standard of living is relative to the dismal always near starvation levels of those previous parents i mentioned and so today outside i life in china today still can look pretty terrible over also a but the things have improved is hard to dispute what is not in dispute is it forever step forward in the condition of general human rights there there are inevitable two steps back all this is important to the story today as we move forward their uncles bracy it's not just shoes electronics and appliances that are made in the world's manufacturing powerhouse they're moving into a what i think kind of always considered to be a truly made in america product crazy religious cults oh they're taking all of are jobs that right it's it's a booming business there in fact it's such a booming business business in china it's a wonder mitt romney hasn't sold temple square prescribe an outsource mormonism long joe so the cult that inspired today segment has a very cool name eastern lightning a new ooh yeah and they take a lightning sound segment so they take their name from passage in the biblical book of matthew chapter four verse twenty seven that says for as the lightning comes out of the east end shines even to the west social all the coming of the son of man be so that's cool right okay you're on book though well yeah come on shooters so who are these eastern lightning folks what makes them tick well known also is the church of almighty god it's the sort of christian sucked founded in china in nineteen ninety one with somewhere between one and three million members so which which which in china is meaningless tiny number that i saw that yeah so it's a nominally so like we've discussed before with the felon gone cold in episode sixty it's very hard to know what to believe about anything coming out of china that has run afoul of the ruling communist party as eastern lightning definitely has so there's there's so much propaganda encounter propaganda flowing in both directions one has to try to reid between the tea leaves to figure out what's true ended is not easy right there's lots of crazy lots of crazy shit so so evidently not do is believe anything uncle mark says about it or anything ever so part of what makes it also hard to parse is that while china is officially end legally an atheist country there are religions that are tolerated but only just end among those were several mainland christian sex like catholicism and some protestant denominations but then there are loads that are not tolerated among among them the forementioned in persecuted felon going into new friends eastern lightning mm an as either eastern lightning is one of an unknown number of christian or semi christian sex living the shadowy underground loosely referred to as house church is because people have to meet in small numbers in people's houses or in remote rural areas right in fact many eastern lightning members don't don't know each other's real names like spies right so they they can't compromise each other under torture session she hears even pretty smart guy so it's that's that's just that's just been planning eastern allowing a shot is that all of this under underground underground this and oppression a it is that not only is the info about these groups sketchy but there is little little monitoring of the weird shit they pulling each other a as well see what their friends and eastern lightning so what did these secret secretive and with good reason folks believe so pretty much the standard cannon standard christian cannon so no big surprise there but with a twist guy good is jesus came back already oh my oh in nineteen seventy three hallelujah at her name is yang yang been way what you just said the word her that's right mrs jesus christ the second is a woman in her forties from a small town in north western china the waiting is over her this proves conclusively the future is female now yes indeed as we all know yang zhang been lifted relative obscurity until the head of eastern lightning a guy called shall we sean recognize her as lady jesus in nineteen ninety three now and i wanna know how that went down i want it would did you bump into each other at a starbucks and he says hey he says it vader's of the body snatchers that just style you tell the truth are you jesus so now as many listeners will know china was in a more avai cracking down on shit mood than the norm in nineteen ninety three but they're very republican very brutal crackdown on student protesters in tenement square just a few years earlier in nineteen eighty nine so yeah anything with an anti communist whiff what's going to meet the business end of a tank tread too sweet and eastern lightning was very government calling the communist party the great red dragon after one of evil beasts from the best children's book in the bible revelation and that's when like countless other churches they went deep underground one would think beach in hiding doing would make a a a groupie a little on the dl when it came to fanaticism and behaving in kind of bonkers ways might be you noticed by authorities not so are friends and eastern lightning it's a lightning you are diet yeah you can't blame yourself eastern lightning and then be like were subtle yeah don't tell anyone a it seems these folks have a sort of missionaries deal but the mormons could only dream of an in reading the stories about him i get the sense that the second they lay eyes on you you're fucking converted whether you like it or not so before i get to those stories i spend a few minutes i'll never get back visiting the eastern lightning english language page which gave me quite a spoof because it looks like a nightmarish hybrid of scientology a north korean happy peasants propaganda everyone is cheerful the point of looking like the fucking joke here a so but at least it was perfectly on informative with such headings as words in the flesh reveal religious music religious music festival in germany to be praised by almighty god church program or okay how about how about this one twenty nineteen seen gospel movie moms love is too great andrew okay purpose this immediately obvious heading it's a curse to crucify god and of course of course clever virgins listen to the voice of god and i saw they had made several feature length films attention ear buds nick so yeah let's rejoin eastern eastern lightning slow descent into madness already in progress like i said they they proselytize rather aggressively for some reason their favorite target or the one they found was easiest for whatever reason where middle aged women so husband and families would describe the women in their life's just disappearing they would go home and find the gun no personal belongings have been taken they just evaporated into the cult underground never to be heard from again well so that leads us to two thousand two whether they fairly famous version of this aggressive missionary young when the group kidnapped thirty five chinese evangelical leaders in a coordinated action in several dispersed cities in china 'em it seems they were held for months in an attempt to force them to joined the cult and then in turn to go forcibly convert their old congregations as well so that all right yeah that's a cool thing just just don't tell the mormon yeah right so i give anybody ideas they're all sorts of stories of this kind of forced covers and intensely heavyhanded tactics that include gouging out eyes guys could be true maybe not breaking people's arms and legs if they failed to kneel before lady jesus an even cutting off years again where the truth between a lunatic called in chinese communist propaganda lies is very hard to tell so they'll similar claims and counterclaims around it they may be well most well known for ruining what was a perfectly fine evening indie shall we one mcdonald's it seems eastern lightning members were aggressively bothering customers for their cell phone numbers so they could begin the process of wearing them down into joining one particular customers seems just wanna to enjoy her filet of fish and refused the hand over her number two cult members responded by beating her to death with a mob handle handle and stomping on her until she was just a bloody mess while another one stood by and threatened to kill anyone who intervened this is all caught on cell phone footage this just escalated quickly escalate rather quickly so jesus a you'll be happy those people have since been tried and executed themselves because as we've always said about the chinese penal system here on the how to heretic it's firm but fair right but that's it or we yeah we we like to comment frequently on they chinese penal system sort of are favoritism we it's something we know a lot about so it's what we're known for yeah basically so the group later jumped on the twenty twelve doomsday bandwagon assuring its members at all would be right sued after the the coming off a fiery death of the planet i couldn't find anything on their website about how they explain that one away so maybe next time and most recently off these culture such a fucking mess it just is amazing most recently twitter shut down several eastern lightning proxy accounts for trying to interfere in the twenty nineteen israeli election so what is geyser the whole package you know some great news for american listeners in the new york area a shower we sean and his friend the reincarnation tornado jesus who goes by the name of miss yang's e g g n being were granted asylum in the u s for religious persecution quick note i thought that category category would say four people who were the victims of religious persecution the perpetrators or maybe you could really be about you literally that question on that form called that's called pay it forward right there and it's paying all over the place so so you could find some of their u s the vote taes any day of the week handing out flyers in chinatown in new york should the segment have convinced you to sign up so a all that research it brings me back to one of the central pillars of our show and that is the bible is a problem that fucking serious problems so sure it's got a precious few passages about not being a total asshole and the meek may be getting nearest an unnamed future date but it's mostly not that happy shit it's mostly a horror if you love slavery the bible back you up you think you should straight killer person for not believing in god of the moment the bible's got you you wanna kill children or at least justify locking them up in cages deriding die there's plenty versus the choose from for that so all you need for that pandora's box of horror it'd be opened is a free copy of the bible gideon's will happily provide a some tough social and economic conditions a disorder mind looking to make a name for himself at a rural lady to play jesus and blanco eastern lightning so there you go eastern lightning check it out give it a spin the one thing i will say is that mcdonald's is now safe because eastern lightning only never strikes in the same place twice oh it's so true so well with that a with the weather looking worse let's let's move on well uncles yo a look at last week you'll recall a we didn't do any any patrons we didn't talk about the the patrons because we don't know who they'd be because we were recording in the magic of a us space and time we were all in three different countries yes true we were we were we were in the diaspora of america same hemisphere yeah but not the same country yes indeed so a so now that were all at least on the same continent yes we we can we can talk about a are the people who are the best folks in the world are favorite listeners the ones who give us money a and so we've got some new patrons thank and i i hope you'll join me in thanking them in with uplifted lifted hand approval yes that's the mormon way so thanks so much to david squirrelly raf yeah good job kathleen and then a let's see a mark i'm gonna have you give aid saints to lauren oh lauren congratulations on your a saint that is obviously a saint but dahlia of onion a this is a real favorite around here which is the patron saint of a car broncos 'em a v nineteen ninety one rerelease on dvd of a chariots it's a fire which is incredible in a new to pennsylvania to yeah oh yeah oh yeah go ahead run an excellent job learn yeah well don joya lauren a an uncle doug you have to give an improvised boy to not uncle buck mark okay mark a your saint is a saint fatima of these canary islands oh yeah 'em in saint fatima is v patron saint of l a pitcher a september and unexpected jewelry wow that's really nice a good job very excellent and i have to give a saint matthew a and we'll see if he could figure out where i went on my vacation recently matthew you're patron saint is one of bogota he is the patron saint of a getting my sneakers really clean for all very very low price an a a a wine at cafes end of a a a sitting on what looked like very uncomfortable stools wow so i credibly specific thing so they all are much i don't know if you noticed this they're all very specific way in pennsylvania in sort of a general thing but i'm not gonna argue i'm not here to argue about cutting because it's beyond it's beyond are power to know where this comes from right right yeah this is not like were choosing this this is just what happens you know this is just how mountains upon us inspiration for five bucks yes every week yes indeed a so there you go a these people are the kindest folks they've decided that they value what we do and they're going to pay fourth and we appreciate that the most we love you a for those of you who can't afford to give us money that's fine still what you can't afford to do because we know you have the internet a is it you could go onto wherever you listen to this and give us a five star review just lie just you know just look you don't have to like us five stars to click five stars yeah that's just not how that works do it out of spite if nothing else yeah yeah do it do it to make a deal other podcasts cast feel bad that's right do it to make you cry get out of bed in the morning that's right that's right all right guys thank you guys so much end let's move on it's been a local mark yeah yeah yeah well you know i'm good i don't know what what's while you're bothering me go back to sleep yeah i was wide awake by the way twenty four seven three sixty five what i do for you know this show is nothing if not attempted guide due to find your way through the much and plenty bullshit there is in this world sure but but there's still a lot a lot of there's no end there's no end it's the one renewable resource yeah earth is dying will we will blanketed layer of votes should bigger as any pacific garbage patch british weaken stop the the the global warming the essential oils if we try to be away or we could get it going even faster end this misery get to know you were gonna hit the iceberg let's hit it with the pedal to the metal right yeah and i'm glad we had this jet i think an seen listeners come here for oakland messaging we just fucking gave it to listen i'm gonna i'm gonna stop you right there uncle mark because listen look we have talked a lot about various wu's on the you're you're pseudoscience is you're magical claims yuri various and sundry bullshits yes sir a just this week i came across the base book ad trying and i'm not lying here trying to sell me a rock that would save the bees from why a that is truly what i posted about it on how to heretic facebook page you guys can all look at it is amazing a but the question is what admitted did you buy the rocker not i'm working working on it is the baby okay i need to know i'm saving up for the b's it's for the b's everybody sees a but look how do we know how to you and i end you know that it's bullshit what makes us so sure none none of us are scientists and other than me swishing uncomfortable amount of goop around in my mouth for a are oil pulling segment and the jade exit uncle mark currently up his man china it's not like we actually try any of the woods we denigrate let's insured about breathing guys and i'm really struggling right now i i really hope i don't sneeze so how do we know it's bullshit a how could anybody who isn't on the inside meaning a scientist studied the or the in that specific field or a practitioner of whatever it is how do we how did not know how come we know whether a claim is true or not is it white man's intuition and i think it's white man's do feel like always go with white man's intimate intuition i never did anything wrong gotten president trump to president's day it's worked for white men pretty well yeah yeah when you look around the state of white men were doing okay all right well i know no downside for anyone that's right now what could go wrong now listen for most of human history street literally millions of years we as a species just banged around the world like idiots with only the most basic notions of how to tell what was true from wasn't the village elders said that he knew for a fact the the crops grow better when young women give more bj's there is just no way to know what's right or if it was just a dirty old asshole hint it's both a while googling bj's right okay well okay all right okay if only there was a rock there would save the bj anyway look that's why we on the show like the talk about science so much because it is in fact the best method we humans have a for at least the best method we've come up with so far to separate good information from total nonsense and that's all it is it's a method it's a system for weeding out as much of the bullshit as we possibly can so the we could have some semblance of real actual knowledge unfortunately even though we as a species are far and away the most smartest most smartest damn things on the planet were still just victim apes a with cell phones so were playing with cognitive bias is fallacious thinking a even with the most even with the powerful methodology is we've created brussels to try and work around those weaknesses we still do science wrong a lot of tech for example aristotle who is one of the great grandfathers of the modern scientific method who like at the most revered brain in the world for like a thousand years and was wrong about almost every well he was also a bucket for the bottle well why not i mean at that point freeze and why wouldn't you python deep cuts guys and it's a he thought that the reason some birds disappeared in the winter and then came back in the spring was it they must more in the other creatures a you is pretty sure eagles just grew out of the mud and did not actually a have any kind of sexual reproduction he thought the be all that only light skinned women could have an orgasm so the classic one punch of racism and sexism what's a sharp left turn yeah uncle doug on the other hand is convinced that no women could actually having orgasms so aristotle's at least one up on him over you guys still trying but anyway here's the point even though sciences imperfect and most of us are not experts on anything there are still some good principles we used to evaluate claims that we come across a and rather than me and my a ding dong nece try to do it a do this concept justice i'm gonna go with a skeptic dot com has which is a lovely baloney detection kit a the you could download or they have just and info graphic that's quite useful and i will i will just sort of borrowing heavily from that number one has oprah ever said anything about right well actually that is tip number one which is who is making this claim yes a what is their track record with claims have they been known to lie do they believe a bunch of other stuff that is likely bullshit for instance i know a guy named dave who showed me you two videos that convinced him that cloud busting is super true he also is convinced that reiki israel so how should i approach is claimed that smoking dmt will send me to to a literal alternate dimension where benevolent beings will guide me spiritually him being credulous on other points doesn't make this particular claim untrue of course but it certainly can be good reason to give his claims a little bit of extra scrutiny how important is this dave character in your life a not you know a but it is fun to lake here him all that be really really serious about club us oh someone i know just told me recently the their wife i feel i get this right there wife his wife does and she's a psych psych life regression psychologist oh god a us it's just it just i had to stand there and just stare at it for a full five seconds of just keep keeping everything inside right like right that sounds nice yeah no i don't wanna visit her you are doing damage in the world okay anyway so the next thing to think about is is is the claim coming from only one source so good science is peer reviewed and then replicas replicated by other people if all of the people making the claim are pointing to a single source especially if that source is the how to heretic may need don't dump all you're trust in that just yet well not to be on goes i'll let you guess which one spot inside there's one you can trust that's for sure yes one of us always tells the truth and one of us always lies and the third one is doug anyway so this this next one it's a little tricky for people who are already very deep into the blue route for the rest of us check in with how you already know the the physical world works so of course there's a bunch of shit we don't know at this point most of the things in the universe we don't know but we do know a few things we can be confident in a few things yeah so if somebody makes a claim that involves gravity being a hoax or you know tomatoes are part of a mass delusion or whatever maybe require a lot of good evidential support before believing that tomato juice well i mean never my old way i wave off wave on literally staring down the barrel of a tomato circumcision joke and was like but i can't make that happen and there's no way somebody could do it a anyway example did they give it skeptic dot com is what really makes sense aliens to come to earth help people build a giant rock pyramids and then fuck off forever that's not their words that's my words but but i mean that's a good example like i by the way i son excellent me about that that showed a bunch of like ancient monuments kind of clustered in this frame it said just because white people didn't build it doesn't mean aliens did yeah good point eight it is it you know it's very funny because so many people believe something so deeply like like aliens built the pyramids and then when you say well why why did what they have done the motivation yeah yeah then why didn't they stick around or why did why did they just leave and never come back right and then the smoke or they'll just start wildly speculating yeah and then and that's the other thing if someone just if you ask them a question about it and they answer should be i don't know andrew what do what answer comes is just quick thinking like on their feet thinking about it and trying to speculate and just presenting it as backed yeah right great reason to completely dismissed whatever yeah that's my experience with people it's typically a a conspiracy theories yeah if you just keep asking follow up questions it just ends yeah and they they have they have thought that far well that's that's exactly right and i think that's maybe dan that's part of this methodology right is that okay aliens came to earth why are they doing here oh they're probing people okay for what a further planned inveighs like okay think about the capital investment of interstellar space travel firm and in doing it for no particular reason other than putting things in people's butts now i mean i'm there for that lots of people who have gone to great lengths for about stuff so let's not discount exactly right but those aliens are not me right so why wouldn't you just keep asking why why well and also and also ask what is you're evidence right okay you believe that tell me what you're evidences and says for believing that right right and if their evidence is just i just think that's true as evidence that was presented to me recently that a that fluoride in the water causes a weather not not autism a all timers four i did a lot of causes also hammers why do you think that i just believe that's true okay well then you just have some fun with that and by you're very expensive water filter that you're so proud of right right i will go on with my day 'em this one might be my favorite thing which is what what the critics say play this game with me at home if you want to which is if you especially if he wants to believe that something is true you know if you have an ailment and someone says this is gonna solve that problem you're motivated to believe that's true sure you are not true so the best way to ask yourself the best thing to ask yourself about that is what what people who don't wanna believe this is true say how how would they craft their arguments so you ask yourself you know a you basically just try to prove it wrong right good science is trying is not trying to prove something right if you do that if you have a hypothesis this good science is trying to prove that hypothesis wrong right yeah everything you throw at it doesn't stick and it's still stands then you've got a pretty strong hypothesis right and if you propose scientific theory in whatever field cheering you on the your peers let's the peer review process are gonna train tear it apart right you're gonna go at it from every direction and if they find us law if they find an error or unintentional fabrication you're done yeah if you're deuces eight what makes you look horrible yeah but there's all that science and stuff but that's just kinda how we feel about it you know what i mean i know i know feel a thing we we have a great friend the three of us who is right now recovering in hospitals they say in britain from a liver transplant and what saved his life was the science behind organ transplantation and not colloidal silver right right oh he is a lovely shade of blue now so i think bullets had both had a good effect right but think about the complexities of the different kinds of scientific and technological advances the brought that a stir happened to our friend yeah the admit the medical science the transportation system was able to transport that kidney on a plane or liberated me the communication system available to make that information move all the little machines in the in the hospital room the go yes you have to take all that as a whole you pick and choose you can't say the earth is flat and then fly on a plane somewhere measure cell phone yeah yeah but i mean that's that's you know we don't have the so fucking flatter thing 'cause you're you're you're demanding that rain will go flat but did you know the the people who who were some of the people who are proponents of the flat earth thing say the other planets are not so yeah just earth the forces in the universe do things a certain way except this one time right why yeah that's that's that's not that's not great that's not that's not a strong point right so the next few points the skeptic dot com info graphic makes are about science science so things like where does the preponderance of evidence point a is the claimant playing by the rules of science or other cheating 'em are they providing positive not negative evidence now that's a really interesting thing because a will peddlers are big into negative and non evidential evidence for instance so negative evidence and stuff like we surveyed you know two hundred people who use are foot pads and none of them ever reported having gout since i started using them right that can't just be coincidence rights well guess what having no evidence for one thing does not equate to having evidence for the officer right a so those things you could watch for and you know the more you learn about science the more you know what you what you need to be watching for yeah in a bad study or whatever well in the world of blue and conspiracy theory there can never be a coincidence but in the universe is giants as ars sometimes things happen are not related to each other better just coincidental you know what i mean like i got a headache and the football team i like one rice things don't necessarily equate to each other but i'm gonna joan sara lee ending up that i'm getting hitting you over the head with a hammer before every game just in case a so the other thing is does the new theory work better or account for more phenomena of phenomena as the old series if it seems to really explain one thing really well but doesn't work with a whole shit load of other issues guess what you haven't solved anything right a so so yeah you gotta you gotta kinda put it into the whole context of you know reality yeah and finally and this is a big one does the source have a reason to slant the findings so do they stand to benefit from the outcome being one thing or another example they used is someone who is pro business might feel did they should be skeptical of global warming a but also are all like literally all of the studies done on essential oils funded by central oil industry maybe you have a reason for skepticism right and so so that's their big thing i i wanna i wanna make one big point which was remember the you and this is this is so huge to me you don't have to take a position new position is totally good right because like you say i don't know the most honest position to take if there's any doubt about anything is zero position is just say you know the news media starts shouting about a new study that says cell phones were making millennials grow horns on the back of their head or chocolate helps you lose weight and somebody asks you if you think that's true don't know i just don't know about it it's the most amazing thing to say i don't know i don't know is the most powerful liberating phrase in the thinking persons arsenal and the more proudly strongly you say it the more a you're uncles will respect you right well you could you will notice if you if you pay attention and to to you know people in public scientists the people who are in you know in the public eye who were on television like neil degrasse tyson erbil neier whoever they will frequently say we don't know right yep yep we don't know why that happens we don't know where that came we don't know what caused that begin we do i know what makes up the majority of the universe right yeah you will not often hear the pope or the dalai lama say that right well i make it worse dickhead right or or fucking donald trump and make him he doesn't know anything i just try and the man who knows nothing right now you could ask him about any subject and he will spout facts it you know about that subject and that's the thing i think a lot of times in this society we are actually trained admitted his weakness just say i don't know i especially in that world that he inhabits yeah that many of his followers inhabit the ven diagram of religious people almost perfectly equates to well i you guys i was wrong to say he doesn't know anything thing he is quite an expert in early american colonial airports yes in lexington and concord airport right yeah exactly oh the cry of the gw way facility and another thing i think it's important to point out to dan in fucking just leap in on this pleased the horses of woo is oftentimes you know we can be an end in heritable trait or or crazy believes can be an in in heritable trade because you don't know that you're not that you can't always trust say your parents or your grandparents or these or people in authority around you right right you don't know it takes a long time for people realize oh my my parents i lied to me or they didn't do their homework right they did right so just because my parents says it doesn't make it true right yeah so it's it's kind of a hard lesson to to understand it but really tricky and yeah when when the people you've trusted the most a are lying to you it's hard to untangle like what is and what isn't real like there may not be line to the right or they may not be lying in their heart they're not telling you something that's true but they may believe it's true but that doesn't make it a fucking through no in believing in who could make you susceptible to other news we've talked about this a lot but we as skeptics and atheist are also susceptible to this short hundred percent and we need to be careful even in this age where honesty and truth doesn't seem to matter anymore i 'cause whereabout enter this era of deep fakes you guys have seen this oh yeah the that you were going to see things with their eyes and here the years that are that are not true and we've got to be very careful to not follow those things believe those things just because we saw which is crazy but there it is i'm not even real uncle dan so there you go look and i would i do wanna say like this me saying how much i love the phrase i don't know how much i love admitting to what i what what i do and don't know that doesn't mean you have to give equal a measure of possible versus impossible for everything that you've come across exactly that doesn't mean is everything ways out equal here are not two sides to every issue do better to each other i mean just because you haven't looked into it yourself if you're an stephanie says it is she is positive pulses of high biscuits pedals and llamas seeming will cure you're lingering case of only having one arm you're gonna feel free to tell her do please never say anything to you ever again it's it's fine yeah that like yeah this is this is a a burger you don't have to ruin teapot you i know you don't need all right just because you can't disprove prove it doesn't mean you have to see it as equally possible or imposs and it's the trap the like people like bill nye fall into where okay i'm gonna debate a flatter right well you've just given half of the stage to flatter sir around right you normally wouldn't have any place on manually you have seated that there are there is fifty percent merit to both sides right right and that's utter bullshit by a yeah can i tell you my favorite story before we're done with this i hope you do i might well so i'm not gonna give too much away about this guy 'cause he's kind of still around but he's using a person i knew along time ago an ex mormon guy who is a little bit a little bit susceptible to a hand he somehow got in with this guru who insisted he by a five thousand dollar crystal skull as a like i focused worthy energy of whatever andy told him to listen to whatever the five thousand dollar crystal skull had to say and guess what the the crystal skull had to say what did he needed to buy another five thousand dollars i needed a friend know you gotta buy me enough game of poker just yeah get sixers having more and we should be all right yeah so there you go you go a will is lest you think it's harmless most will there is real harm that could happen even in the least harmony sort of feel like if it if nothing else it's sad to see a loved one spend money on something that will do nothing for them so get up get that doesn't mean be aggressive with other people that just means like sort of get used to get your own mind right a and learn how to spot the who will will keep looking out for you as well you're you're uncle got you back but i'm with you then we'll is a trap and it could be a yoke end if you come free somebody from their prison yeah within reason in in good natured questions tons please do yeah i mean if you can do that could be a tricky proposition you didn't you need to be careful because people just like religion people tend to see their new as a part of their identity not just not just the thing they do or the like but also who they are well that's very typical of labor as i think i think so i think so i think a if it's a if you get the opportunity a and you could do it gently a yes guide people as best you can away from there were but you know don't don't don't ruin relationships over it but but at least you should know what is and isn't real in the universe as best you can so get out there and and a and an issue the issue the way you kids have fun all right let's move on let's move on 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