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"dan roth" Discussed on Hello Monday by LinkedIn

Hello Monday by LinkedIn

02:09 min | Last month

"dan roth" Discussed on Hello Monday by LinkedIn

"Our music was composed just for us by the mysterious breakmaster cylinder. Dan Roth is the editor in chief of LinkedIn. I'm Jesse hempel, see you next Monday. Thanks for listening. I have a PostScript for you today. A conversation about leadership with Verizon's sampath, samiya Ryan. Verizon's our sponsor, in San pa, he's pretty senior there. He's now the chief revenue officer for Verizon business. What a scaled up is unfortunately not my intelligence, I wish that were the case and my kids remind me that that's not scaled up. But what has scale is leadership, the ability to manage and inspire and lead people and the pandemic made that happen much faster. You saw years worth of leadership progress in a couple of years time. Verizon's a huge company. And during the pandemic, many of its employees had to begin working virtually. In our conversation, sampath explained how he'd adjusted his leadership style to meet people where they were. Here's some path. He started large organizations like us, rely on command and control, where you have a particular model, you drive command all the way down the structure, you control it, you drive results. In a hybrid world where 95% of my team won't be in an office 5 days a week, that model completely doesn't work. That model is dead. So we've adopted this model of commanders intent, where the commander, in this case, it's me, but it could be anyone else, has a very clear intent on what the mission is. It's a military concept where you say, this is the mission in this quarter, I need the following 5 things to be done. These are the subset of resources you have at your disposal. And then unleash the organization to go and do it. They don't have to come back to me every two minutes to understand this, right? If it's allowed, it's not allowed. They understand the mission. They understand what the.

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"dan roth" Discussed on Hello Monday by LinkedIn

Hello Monday by LinkedIn

01:34 min | 6 months ago

"dan roth" Discussed on Hello Monday by LinkedIn

"Well, Laura, we will follow you from afar, good luck. Thanks, Jessie. All right, that's about it for 2019. We'll be bringing you more new episodes in 2020. And in the meantime, whether it's for an hour or a week, I hope you get away and enjoy some time to rest and recharge. If you enjoyed what you heard, please let us know in a review on Apple podcasts. Hello Monday is the production of LinkedIn. The show is produced by Laura sim, Joe de Georgie mixed our show. Florencia arianda was head of original audio and video. Dave pond is our technical director. Maya mangini and Victoria Taylor hopes Santa Claus is good to you. Our music was composed just for us by the mysterious breakfast cylinder, and you also heard music from poddington bear. Dan Roth is the editor in chief of LinkedIn. From all of us, thank you for listening.

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"dan roth" Discussed on WGN Radio

WGN Radio

04:49 min | 2 years ago

"dan roth" Discussed on WGN Radio

"Nine morning, everyone now the top six, It's six with Bob Suraj on radio. Here They are at 6 20 Item number one. The latest numbers around Illinois 828 new confirmed cases of Corona virus, 30 more deaths in the past day. Both numbers were increases from previous days this week, but they are still part of an overall decline since the peak of the crisis in midway mid May. The weekend's deaths were the lowest numbers in three months and told now Illinois has seen 6951 people die from Coben 19. Just over 144,000 confirmed cases, with the vast majority of people having recovered now, Paige too well, the temporary reprieve is over for motorists in the city ticketing, booting and towing are back. In March, the mayor announced. Chicago would stop ticketing, booting and towing illegally parked vehicles except Republic safety reasons through April 30th to give some measure relief to residents. His jobs have been affected by the pandemic. Since then, she has extended the period several times. But now that Chicago is into phase four of the governor's reopening plan, the free ride is ending Yesterday. Ticketing enforcement resume for illegal parking. A long street sweeping routes. On Monday, booting will make a comeback and starting July 16th the city will resume ticketing for expired City stickers straight This morning, the Labor Department will release the new job's report and most forecasters expected to show an increase in employment last month. The report is based on a survey done in the middle of June before the latest virus surge will get more on that from the editor in chief of Lincoln, Dan Roth joins us With an update coming up this morning at 7 48 page for the Department of Homeland Security, says it's launching rapid deployment teams to federal monuments over the Fourth of July weekend. That effort comes amid nationwide protests over the death of George Floyd. And of course, Confederate statues and other monuments have been targeted. Domine may concern Chicagoans have taken fourth of July celebrations into their own hands. This has led to a huge increase in fireworks sales. And let's see factories have closed, of course, and that's led to a shortage of fireworks. When it comes to safety, you may want to avoid getting too close. There are health risks. Associated with setting off fireworks, some that you may not have heard of before Some American consumer fireworks released taxes, they're harmful for both humans and animals, according to a A new study. That analyzed 12 different retail fireworks and found that once set off five of them released particle emissions, it could damage human cells and animal lung stand of Iife on yours. This is usually the time of year we be talking about taste of Chicago. But of course, it's all different now because of the pandemic, but taste of Chicago has been re imagined transitioning into a virtual showcase. In a way to help pay tribute to first responders and community organizations. The taste of Chicago to go event will take place July 8 through July 12 and instead of vendors selling food items, too. Hungry Chicago visitors, the event will largely be held online free online cooking demonstrations will be given as part of the event and virtual music and dance events will also be Part of the fun. And checking around the Midwest here in Indiana. Governor, Holcomb said the state will continue enforcing capacity limits for restaurants and bars. His cases climb across Indiana. That state was set to lift those restrictions this weekend. Indiana has lost just over 2400 people to the pandemic and what's going on up in Wisconsin in Madison health officials Have announced that they are closing indoor service. It bars as the Fourth of July weekend approaches and as the number of reported Corona virus cases accelerates. Many involving young people in Wisconsin's largest college community, Madison. And that's the way it has been the top 6 to 6 with Bob Suraj WG and radio I know Stevie's manage mentioned the problem with fireworks and pets, and how your dog probably doesn't like the loud sounds. Well,.

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"dan roth" Discussed on KIRO Radio 97.3 FM

KIRO Radio 97.3 FM

07:36 min | 2 years ago

"dan roth" Discussed on KIRO Radio 97.3 FM

"Just use the handle at Geelong money now back to the show your back it's Jill on money and we are about to conclude our interview with Dan Roth he's the editor in chief of Lincoln and this is such a strange time because I know a lot of folks celebrated the college graduations of their family members you know kids or nieces nephews grand kids yeah it was so strange although I would say that the virtual graduation that I participated in is probably my favorite graduation that I attended let me just say that and now here's the problem young workers you got a pretty crappy labor market and this is the worst employment landscape since the Great Depression let's not sugar coat it the national bureau of economic research they say that covert nineteen they're calling it a major reallocation shock they think that forty two percent of recent layoffs will become permanent once so that means more than eleven point six million lost jobs now obviously there's going to be some of those jobs to come back great so there can be other jobs that appear but for new entrants into the labor force it's really tough because you're going to be competing with all those more experienced job seekers you're all gonna be vying for a shrinking number of available positions and you know it stinks I know a lot of kids had their offers pulled from them I know that internships have been withdrawn so you know it's not I get it it's not easy there is a also this other annoying thing which is just bad luck that people who graduate into a recession make less money in the early parts of their careers and it's about nine percent of annual earnings in the first ten years after ten years it kind of gets a lot better I'm unfortunately that you know you might be under employed for a while hopefully that this will be a trend that on winds fairly quickly but we don't know we do know that college graduates still do better in the job market than non college graduates their unemployment rate is much lower but you know it's it's going to be a slog that's it I think that maybe the best news is that a lot of the analysis does suggest that under employment is usually a temporary phase just take any job though really that's the most important thing any job is the job that you should take don't fuss around here so we're gonna get into that here is the end of my interview with Dan Roth from linkedin I remember your boss Jeff Weiner coming on our air and talking about soft skills of college graduates and graduate school folks that that was going to be important you see that balance between now you're talking about networking computer engineering and hardware what kind of soft skills does one need in an era where more people are working from home where we're doing more zoom meetings or just you know calling in not in person how would you hire for those skills if you were you know hiring new young writers the skills that employers demand are the ones that did the show that you know how to communicate and how to be persuasive and no matter what the we we all need you you've heard over and over again you need to be a programmer you need to know how to how to code you've got to have to have these technical skills you've got to be an expert in certain areas those kind of skills really help you get started and they help you get ahead for a short period of time but to rise to the top you have to have the soft skills now in a post pandemic world in a world where we are we have a much more distributed workforce and where there is going to be pretty massive changes in the kind of industries that are around or the new kinds of jobs that are created I think they're two really big things that are gonna matter one is communication skills and that's communication over a phone call over a video conference over email and in person how can how do you talk to people how do you get your point across the the second one and this is a really important one is adaptability how well can you adapt to the changing environment that one defines everything because it means if you're in a large company in your position shuts down or the world changes like adjusted to being adaptable is means that you can actually write about so you might have a skill to get you a job but if you want to keep that job the communication skills and the adaptability or what are going to be able you to hold on to the job and then to rise through the ranks one example we've been looking for stories of companies that are that have gone above the call that has done a lot for their employees for the communities and there's a bookstore in Michigan that immediately did a go fund me with their customers they raise enough money from people who are doing the they're such a good relationship with our customers the people just gave money to a bookstore and was enough for them to hold on to I think it was twenty two of our twenty four employees so smart move by the owners to realize the environment is changing and they switch to an online ordering process they had none of that before they quickly embraced technology xcelerated something that was already going on they realized they had to be in the digital age even more fascinating to me was there was a bar in Boston who changed their you know the bar was closed down they couldn't have patrons and but they realize people the older realize that people need the antibody testing and he switched as part of becoming antibody testing center totally adapted only changes entire business when the world change that to me is the kind of adaptability that will be required to make it in whatever this great reset is that we're going through I want to end with we're talking it's may it's graduation season it is so awful that many of our college students they've been toiling or drinking for four years they're finally done they're gonna enter the labor force and labor force is a mess what advice do you have for recent graduates I'm not sure this is the best advice and I think that we are all trying to figure this out together I can tell you what I would do if I were in your shoes I would know in general where I want to be what kind of industry what I want to do in general in the long run and then I would get any job I could to pay the bills and start figuring out how to network with those people who are in that industry and I think that if you can't get the perfect job get a job get a job and you have to hustle on the side to be able to land where you want to land it is not going to be easy for these graduates it is going to be very very difficult and they have been told for years that they should pursue what they love I still think that is good advice but I would say do not hold out to get that perfect job you knew exactly where you want it is going to be a lot of hard work and you're gonna have to work overtime to get noticed and get attention and to get a book of business in that area that's what you gotta do thanks so much Dan Roth for coming on the show this weekend it's been so great to talk to him and reconnect if you've got financial questions and you really think that very career oriented especially we love to.

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"dan roth" Discussed on WHAS 840 AM

WHAS 840 AM

07:32 min | 2 years ago

"dan roth" Discussed on WHAS 840 AM

"Money now back to the show your back it's Jill on money and we are about to conclude our interview with Dan Roth he's the editor in chief of link dent and this is such a strange time because I know a lot of folks celebrated the college graduations of their family members you know kids or nieces nephews grand kids yes so strange although I would say that the virtual graduation that I participated in is probably my favorite graduation that I attended let me just say that and now here's the problem young workers you got a pretty crappy labor market and this is the worst employment landscape since the Great Depression let's not sugar coat it the national bureau of economic research they say that covert nineteen they're calling it a major reallocation shock they think that forty two percent of recent layoffs will become permanent once so that means more than eleven point six million lost jobs now obviously there's going to be some of those jobs to come back great so there can be other jobs that appear but for new entrants into the labor force it's really tough because you're going to be competing with all those more experienced job seekers you're all gonna be vying for a shrinking number of available positions and you know it stinks I know a lot of kids had their offers pulled from them I know that internships have been withdrawn so you know it's not I get it it's not easy there is a also this other annoying thing which is just bad luck that people who graduate into a recession make less money in the early parts of their careers and it's about nine percent of annual earnings in the first ten years after ten years it kind of gets a lot better and unfortunately that you know you might be under employed for a while hopefully that this will be a trend that on winds fairly quickly but we don't know we do know that college graduates still do better in the job market than non college graduates their unemployment rate is much lower but you know it's it's going to be a slog that's it I think that maybe the best news is that a lot of the analysis does suggest that under employment is usually a temporary phase just take any job though really that's the most important thing any job is the job that you should take don't **** around here so we're gonna get into that here is the end of my interview with Dan Ross from linkedin I remember your boss Jeff Weiner coming on our air and talking about soft skills of college graduates and graduate school folks that that was going to be important see that balance between now you're talking about networking computer engineering and hardware what kind of soft skills does one need in an era where more people are working from home where we're doing more zoom meetings or just you know calling in not in person how do you hire for those skills if you were you know hiring new young writers the skills that employers demand are the ones that did they show that you know how to communicate and how to be persuasive in no matter what the week we all need you you've heard over and over again you need the program we need to know how to how to code you've got a you have to have these technical skills you've got to be an expert in certain areas those kind of skills really help you get started and they help you get ahead for a short period of time but to rise to the top you have to have the soft skills now in a post pandemic world you know where we are we have a much more distributed workforce and where there is going to be pretty massive changes in the kind of industries that are around or the new kinds of jobs that are created I think they're two really big things that are gonna matter one is communication skills and that's communication over a phone call over a video conference over email and in person how can how do you talk to people how do you get your point across the the second one and this is a really important one is adaptability how well can you adapt to the changing environment that one defines everything because it means if you're in a large company in your position shuts down or the world changes like congested being adaptable is means that you can actually write it out so you might have a skill to get your job if you want to keep that job the communication skills and the adaptability or when you're going to be able you to hold on to the job and then to rise through the ranks one example we were looking for stories of companies that are that have gone above the call that have done a lot for their employees are for the communities and there's a bookstore in Michigan that immediately did a go fund me with their customers they raise enough money from people who are doing it is such a good relationship with our customers the people just gave money to a bookstore and was enough for them to hold on to I think it was twenty two of their twenty four employees so smart move by the owners to realize the environment changed candy switch to an online ordering process they had none of that before they quickly embraced technology xcelerated something that was already going on they realized they had to be in the digital age even more fascinating to me was there was a bar in Boston who changed their you know the bar was closed down they couldn't have patrons in but they realize people don't realize that people need the antibody testing and he switched his party becoming anti body testing center totally adapted when we change doesn't hire business when the world changed that to me is the kind of adaptability that will be required to make it in whatever this great reset is that we're going through I want to end with we're talking it's may it's graduation season it was so awful that many of our college students they've been toiling or drinking for four years they're finally done they're going to enter the labor force and labor force is a mess what advice do you have for recent graduates I'm not sure this is the best advice and I think that we are all trying to figure this out together I can tell you what I would do if I were in your shoes I would know in general where I want to be kind of industry what I want to do in general in the long run and then I would get any job I could pay the bills and start figuring out how to network with those people who are in that industry and I think that if you can't put the parking job get a job get a job and you have to hustle on the side to be able to land where you want to land it is not going to be easy for these graduates it is going to be very very difficult and they have been told for years that they should pursue what they love I still think that is good advice but I would say do not hold out to get that perfect job you knew exactly where you want it is going to be a lot of hard work and you're gonna have to work overtime to get noticed and get attention and to get a book of business in that area that's what you gotta do thanks so much Dan Roth for coming on the show this weekend it's been so great to talk to him and reconnect if you've got financial questions and you really think.

Jill Dan Roth editor in chief
"dan roth" Discussed on WGN Radio

WGN Radio

10:13 min | 2 years ago

"dan roth" Discussed on WGN Radio

"And the great thing about being here WGN is you can just press a button and say good morning to the editor in chief of linked in a New York City Dan Roth good morning Dan how you doing good morning thank you have me on I'm doing great how's everything in New York today it's been it's been interesting watching the governor every day yeah the governor's been terrific at it is is probably no different than being anywhere else because you're still at home world watching news and listen to the news the same way everyone else does because you can't leave but it's really terrifying no well hopefully you will get on the other side very soon I know you folks chatted with Bill Gates what was this yesterday how did this all come about yes it is you just can't build in long time contributor only and we have hundreds of thousands of articles about chewing up close today I mean again some people are more popular than others dell is one of our most popular the writers contributors I'm going down and people want to hear what he has to say now not only is he a smart voice on this evening but twenty fifteen yet I'll let Ted talk about becoming pandemic which I wish we could all listen to more yeah we played and we played it here yeah yep yeah it's unbelievable yeah and and then now he's been writing about what leaders need to do now what we only do a plucky spending vaccines and but Maxine research and and and and studies on how to track the corona virus and he he talking to world leaders so we can move on to talk with with the world professionals about what's coming what we all need to do and brokers looking to staff this morning about four hundred thousand views of that video already only got about twenty thousand comments from people just asking the questions about the spread in about what's right is gonna look like after the pandemic and and when that's gonna happen well what are most people taking away from the interview and what was the one thing that stood out for you after the Bill Gates interview yeah well I think that there were there were there was a lot that stood out one of the most important thing that I got was on wildlife you know I I've heard talk a lot about the pandemic I mean he said we've got eighteen months before a vaccine comes and we just need to accept that and until testing happens but we're going to be we need to be in a lock down basically until we can get more testing once we get testing life can somewhat return to normal commando who has the virus you doesn't look into more localized quarantining but until then things are going to be great and then I told the backseat is nothing will return to normal and so that was just a a real wake up call and how long we have to go we are and how we got to teach ourselves and then we talked about what life is going to look like afterwards and I think that the next eighteen months he he that's returning to work returning to school I think that's really important but he was very doubtful that sporting events or any kind of big gatherings will will happen until there's actually just doesn't see us all getting together nobody has a better handle on the future I mean as evidenced by that Ted talk that five years ago yeah predicted what what we're into now that eighteen month prediction for a vaccine and we've talked to experts here that's even optimistic but way before that we're gonna get not a vaccine but some drugs and we're gonna have therapeutic treatment and I think that along with the tasks is going to sort of speed is back to normal did Bill Gates say anything about that no it was more about controlling the spread of less about how we if you get the virus how you can deal with it the more how do we just make sure that this is not taking out large parts of the population or putting aside sidelining us making us be unable to work you really focused a lot on I think because because was linked in the sort of the direction of our questions was how do we think about the economy and what should people be doing in terms of getting jobs are called lot of questions from college students about what they wanted this can make a band as they search for work and when he didn't have was it was the optimistic about the economy long term yeah he is he's an opportunity to talk frequently about how he's an optimist Michelin optimist now we just you think this will be the kind of thing that we work with it that well determine if we look back on as a change in how we do business but it's going to be painful for a while it E. but the county will return just returned looking the same way that it asked did you comment on the stimulus bills at all no but he definitely was very pointed about the fact that the government did not act fast enough and ignored warnings and you didn't you you've never had ten percent of GDP tech responses and it's it's great that it's being done but the fact that we have to do we have to put this much money into finding this right now she didn't have to happen Dan Roth is the editor in chief of linked in based in New York City how are things changing with your company because of this pandemic Dan yeah sure we're seeing a lot of people coming too late and for we do morning which is our online learning platform and just to get skill development to find new ways to be able to get any kind of jobs they can get or to change industries I think that if you're in the travel or your in hospitality you're trying to find something that will get you off the front lines or get you into something that's more stable it's really important to our members misting tremendous engagement people writing sharing and talking about what they know or what they're seeing how they're getting through this and and then the and people are coming on is changing too with more people are are are we can typically is a site where people are on it during the during the work day well now we're all working all the time and a different hours because we're working won't that suggesting some of some ships and what time people are coming out of what they're doing at different times all right I have a confession to make here Danielle is I was kind of late to get on linked in I got on okay got on me and I don't know six eight months ago whatever it was his everybody said you gotta be on Lincoln someone linked in everyone so I get notices emails see who is checking out your profile or whatever but then when I go in there I see well first of all I don't have my picture in there and I guess that's a mistake at eleven am at take me through the steps now so I guess I'm registered but is there something else I need to do that I'm not doing because I'm not I'm not seeing I mean when I try to go in there and see who's been checking out my profile it doesn't let me go in there it's asking me for something what am I doing wrong you have any idea sure so there did there many different ways usually can I think that the the the what I would recommend is just the start get your get your picture on there that you're a little bit of your background on there and then you can just start using linkedin to write and share about what you are seeing in what you're doing in the professional world so if you want to talk it it is an incredible resource for people to talk about how they work or how they want to work for what they're doing you can follow people like Bill Gates and follow industry leaders can follow people who we work with overtime and it's it's a professional social network so it's really just about sharing what you're seeing what you're doing that's the number one thing that I would recommend you do there you could pay for a premium account which then gets you access to things like to view your profile but if you want to do that that's great that's recommended it's an awesome service but you can also just use Lincoln about paying and you can talk about how what what a typical day is like your show us what how WGN is running during this pandemic take pictures connect with your colleagues and it is a it's a place where people come just to talk about D. how they're connecting opportunity how they're getting ad and what is how to navigate in their professional lives okay so when I hit the link then I count on my phone it's that and then I had I hit the sign in page and already there's trouble because I forgot my password and I don't know what email they gave so but I guess I can get a new password right to reset it need a new password absolutely and then once you're in there's a little but there's a button at the bottom of the check post click the post button and you can just start writing insurance I'm looking at my I just open mind right now looking at there's and there's an article ma'am we tried this too I used to work with that wired she wrote about her new site at protocol that someone from added U. P. talking about think about how we navigate this work because like there's a picture of Joe Peterson the former discounter jet blue the to talk about how we're using zoom's please people explaining how the network is our world we're living in right now how they are getting through it and that that you got a password to get and that's definitely something you're missing there okay yeah all right I'm all right I'm in I think I mean now it's yeah it's going through some security checks here right now and people say Bob what why do you why do you like your job you have to get up at three thirty in the morning well this is why I like my job I got a problem with linked in I just get the the big boss of the whole company on the phone and take up listeners time with this all right so then once I get once I get logged in I get it all right they just sent me a verification code so I can I can reset the password and get in there so I guess where I got hung up was I didn't realize it's a premium service if you want to if you want to view everybody who's asking for your profile is that what you pay for it exactly there is there are there is a premium part you could pay for the.

WGN New York editor in chief Dan Roth
"dan roth" Discussed on .NET Rocks!

.NET Rocks!

02:50 min | 3 years ago

"dan roth" Discussed on .NET Rocks!

"Right. And so they've the feel like a very experienced group of people the threatening. I think is an example of a case where it seems like that implementation strategy is actually being put into effect like from seventy I think already had the implementation of the threats proposal that's in the working group as as a preview feature and that gives them an opportunity, then try it out. Let's work like what problems are there that can then feed back into the working group. That's really interesting. Yeah. We were talking about PWA's, and I pulled up this blog post from Conrad Mueller. That's just from January eighteenth create progressive web absent with dot net. Using blazer shows. Making service worker and C sharp, and the whole thing he goes through all process. He's got a project on kit hub and better include a link. Yeah. So I put that in a lake and share that isn't that a probably a call by onic that does similar stuff with being able to build PWA's and also being able to target mobile like if you wanna nice have mobile, applications, the blazer communities pretty great. They do they do a lot of interesting creative stuff. We we actually maintain a community page on blazer dot net. Laser dot net slash community, where we try to highlight as as many of these products as we can because there's a lot of interesting stuff out there. It's cool. Anything surprised you like, oh, somebody did that. Yeah. I think one of the first things that somebody did which you would think is not the first thing. Oh exists. So unexpected was they met at three D rollercoaster simulator. You did what? Wow. That's not a foam with data. Besides you're supposed to make quake for. So when will we hear from you guys again, what's your next cycle when we should get back to you? We tried to be as public and transparent with everything that we do. Sure. Hopefully, not not much as a surprise. You know, as the standard, Microsoft, cadence goes along, hopefully, we'll have more stuff to say that at the next Bill conference whenever that will be. Spring and fall tends to be a natural cadence where things that come out with Microsoft, right? I mean, we don't we're not sitting around and waiting for those things to happen. Like, you can just watch the repo where we're now all merged into the same repo with all the as core code everything is now in this case, Nick core repo, and blazers in their razor components is in there. You can see all of our issues, and what's on our back lot. Really no secrets anymore. You guys are basically build this stuff in public, and that's the goal and a lot of value in doing that. Because then we get that feedback on. What are we doing? It's good. Awesome. Well, we'll catch up to you sometime later this year. I'm sure, but it's thank you very much for being here. It's been great talking to you.

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"dan roth" Discussed on .NET Rocks!

.NET Rocks!

01:37 min | 3 years ago

"dan roth" Discussed on .NET Rocks!

"Right than traditional plan side framework because all of the code stays completely on the server, and we're just shipping the UI down of the channel to the browser. So it's very thin client scenario. So if you've got someone with really old mobile phone with a slow CPU would just relieving the phone of all the work that it would have had to do besides the actual HMO entering right? Sort of modernized thinking, we're going to have to to wedge our way through some of this stuff. Maybe some features don't run the machine is not the votes guys. Go clout. Yeah. You've got control to decide what's going to run. What if be clever enough? Do we? Do we talk about Samuel like an alternative to HTML in terms of rendering? We can talk about it. Absolutely. So I mean, there are books, of course, that ask us actually, we just want silver light back. Right. We have several light back Lee you or even we'll ask us like I have this WPF app. Yeah. Are win win windfarms app. And I I need to modernize it somehow. Can you help me get to the web? Can you just make this stuff work? So I don't have to write it and get them working in the browser. Luck with that. Although there was a guy that I think it's weeded out fairly recently where he was able to get windfarms apps in some some form running on web assembly in rouser like he had like a calculator or my goodness. It's pretty cool. We'd love to see that. But it's not it's not really are. We work on ESPN that we work for the web on. So a really great web framework. We're targeting web, developers people who have some familiarity with HTML in CSS, maybe not familiarity with with C sharpen dot net..

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"dan roth" Discussed on .NET Rocks!

.NET Rocks!

04:01 min | 3 years ago

"dan roth" Discussed on .NET Rocks!

"Rocks. That's Richie Campbell. I'm Carl Franklin, Steve Sanderson, Dan and Rafa here. We're talking about blazer. Currently what's coming in the box in. I don't know if you were done with that list. But if you aren't we maybe talk about what's left to do. Well, that's necessarily the schedule when we expect to updates. The other interesting question is like what's going to be in those updates like features? Are we actually working on? And what do we plan to do next? I think you were talking earlier about validation and doing sure McMahon validation reforms and those types of scenarios that's one area that we know we want to invest in. We also wanna make it really seamless to use razor components from your existing NBC and razor pages. Applications. So if you have a byu or a page, and you want to render a razor component within that page. That's something. We will nail you to do that. That component. Also be. Liked to be able to be interactive. And all those things and have the same syntax tooling that you get with laser apps razor component applications other things we need to provide a really straightforward and useful way of dealing with authorization and authentication at the moment. We've just got bunch of patterns that we talk about. But there's nothing really Bill into the system to help you with it. So we don't want just leave people on their own. We wanna give them a sensible satchels to do without another thing is the suicide pre rendering feature which we have not had yet. But it's just about ready to at least when you pre rendering HTML. So. Yeah, that's right. So that means that instead of the the application, you I not appearing when the person I coast he'll page and then having to wait for it to download the the run time and stop and everything which can take a second two seconds. Also that they just see the UI straightway may not be functional yet, but immediately render well the rest is loading all the buttons. Engage and it means that are off kitchen is fully such engine quotable as right, which is the important part. And I love a pre-rendered just from like landing pages and stuff that makes it very easy to happen. I think it'll be some good UI Frakes worse. Like, hey, keep those buttons disabled until you're codes finished running and could switch them on. So the us aren't getting frustrated clicking on the buttons. Right. Not that. I would know anything about that. But it is interesting to think everybody does their work on a flip and land. And it's so instant everything he looked back out here in the real world where we have network speed latency that matters give us cues that you're not done yet. Give us a spinning wheel of patients. The spinning wheel pay. I mean, I do like just to the button stay disabled in the moment of the pages. Finish working buttons slide up your call. I'm alive. I like some indication that something is happening. I'm trying to don't like I don't like a disabled screen with nothing else. Because then I don't know if it's going to stay disabled. How how's it working phone? Well, it does science. In that both I assumed Android of simple full weather, simply for quite some time now, so you're off kitchens just as much as they're going to work in a desktop browser. And the kind of challenges that you're gonna face all that a lot of mobile phone uses. Okinawa have much much slow network. Yes. People on a day saying responsive web design still matters. Yeah. Absolutely. The screens completely different shape. So there's nothing specific to blazer in now. But certainly if you just build some line of business application without thinking about small phone's screen, it's probably not be a super experience. Slough we've been arguing that sort of mobile first mindset, especially if it's consumer facing because that's how they're coming to you. But I think it's a trick too. When you're coating blazer to think in terms of make sure the responsive design is correct. Like just the way that you Bill pages. Yeah. Absolutely. And the way that we've got raise it components running on the server working means thought the application kind in some cases, be a lot faster to show them more responsive on a mobile.

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01:57 min | 3 years ago

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"And then at that point because they came to the store, I believe windows has features where they can call when RTA is. Isn't getting access to more native capabilities because they've gone through that and the PWA's are set of API is as well allow for disconnected states and all of those good things. So restoring to have a sweep it says, what is it in a smart client you need to do that? I can't do in these models. That's a great question. At least historically there's always been some stuff that wanted to do that was very specific to the hardware that you're on or the platform that you're on the web just hasn't caught up to yet. No introduces scanner to the equation or some other third party piece of hardware like, and there are a workaround for all of that. But these are the kind of battles that we get into right? But also just different hardware footprints like browsers work in some contexts. But don't work in every context. Boy, there's a lot of forms over data where you're thinking why? Well, we were already building NBC and knockout and sort of traditional web means because they were no install footprints like that mattered a lot and all the day's being stored in the back in. Anyway, I think people would also be probably surprised that I went browsers are now capable of doing these days. Also, I mean, Steve's original talk where he introduced blazer that was a talk about, you know, here's some stuff that browsers can do the you might not know about. And what I was one of those things we did a demo earlier this week at a blazer workshop that we did. Where I showed using the Java script interrupt calls from a blazer app to take an image and make it full screen. Wow. And I showed that to David Fowler as well. And he's like native apps they're doing full screen from a browser like well, and plus the HMO five dollars like you've got access GPS you've got access to cameras like an awful lot. I mean, audio bills the Gadio stack. Now you might bit by bit. We have a fairly good grip on the hardware through the context of the Browns and the file system in most browsers. It's it's restricted you can store stuff..

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02:49 min | 3 years ago

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"To two d rendering of AutoCAD designs. Ina browser Berlin. Thank goodness for that. Because those guys seem like one of the apps, it was just I deal with IT people who have to live with AutoCAD, and it's like the bane of their existence. But they're, you know, this is a company that does like highways and bridges their company operates off the back AutoCAD like it's not optional. And the fact is like, yeah, we keep a couple of wins seven machines around because this customer uses this version of AutoCAD, and it should never made it past win seven. So those are Was the lies. the lies. They live. What about graphics and C sharp and blazer in the browser of should adobe be scared or that should they be converting? Should they write Photoshop in blazers? What I'm saying? Yeah. Yes, they should. Is there any reason why they couldn't so doing all the menus and the toolbar and things like that? But it would be a good fit for them full doing the actual all the image effects that they do. And they've got some really high tech stuff now. So neural networks and such that run inside to shop running out on top of dot net. Coal on top of an interpreter. I would say it's probably not what they're gonna wanna do they shift office services, and they could do that that could do that on the server that won't be easy way to maintain control of it. You know, this is this move towards this idea of just not gonna install software my machines anymore. Everything simply comes to me through the browser. Right is windows team hate you guys? Windows team. I say that allowed. That's not right. Okay. Windows orient always had this interesting relationship with web, I think or just in general, but I think Microsoft in general has a understanding that web matters we care about having a good web development experience and win running experience. We we ship browser. We're All gonna hold. gonna hold. Coming. I'm not going to drag you into that. But believe me that shows Brune in the back of my head to talk about this. But it is. I mean, it is interesting. I mean, I'm I'm firmly wearing my IT hat right now is I live in that world too. And this whole idea that I never have to give permission to new software anymore that the the rights of the browser the limits of all software going forward. It's remarkably compelling from an IT perspective. I think there's also this move as web moves closer to things that you can do in what you would think of as traditional desktop version like PWA's, come to mind example, of this like web apps that can work offline you talk about like no longer have to install the app anymore because it's a web app well with some web apps that are w as they they can go through the Microsoft store and be installed installed on a machine right as a PWA..

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03:38 min | 3 years ago

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"But we're not we're not quite at that stage yet, but just in general if there's a jobs KPI, you wanna call there's a good chance that someone's already tried it and written a new package with the jobs. Come and interrupt code already done for you. I'll shows a lot. But in interesting thought, I mean right now, you live you are sending I l down to the browser the browser. He's Jiting it effectively. So of Jessica is is running is getting the interpreter. And then it's running the Yoko through the. But we could get to a point where maybe that's a development mode, and then you you have a Finnish mode where compile it right down or we actually imagined no probably more like a mixed mode. Like there will be some L on your app. Still let me some hot pass that you have pre compiled down to web assembly because those pass need to be really really optimal. I mean, why wouldn't you want everything that way if it's just a button for us to push? That's a good question. We've been experimenting with that. We were wondering that same question ourselves. Right. You just compile everything down to web assembly, the mono guys have actually been experimenting with that a lot and building out the head of time compilation technologies right now what it looks like is you do get the performance. We're gonna go fast. But the size tends to blow like it gets bigger interesting that it would get bigger. Yeah. That's not that surprising. Look at like engine or across gen technologies in dot net. Like the engine images, I believe for the Donna framework are pretty big ugly. I think last night I heard they were like one of the biggest components if not the biggest component in. Uh-huh. So yeah, when you when you take the dot net code and pull it all the way down to native it does tend to expand in size. And it's probably did that with the whole apple probably too big than what you want. Download over the web. Right. So we think there's probably a off where you do that for the past and the rest of it, you leave his I l during development, I think you're right that you need everything. Probably as I Al size perspective that you don't care for the formats there, you could L because you trading time for size. There's also the Bill time tradeoff as well. Like mean, the full completion all the way down to web assembly. At least so far is what we seen it tends to take longer, but we're not taking date. No. But you don't want to wait like thirty seconds to wait see like a UI update and the bro through from a development perspective. Definitely. But this idea that I develop an I L mode get to a certain point. And then go, okay. Cast to native and I'll go get a coffee I have to. But not if Victorians into something that's ten megs. And you know, you're crippling the network every time you've guy grabs him trade-offs. There. We trust you guys to do the right? Thing. Do we do we? Okay, MBBS friendly. Are we absolutely I mean, we actually tried to be pretty non opinionated about which which pattern? You wanna do? Like if you want to be BBN, right? Like like, there are people that have built those patterns on top of the core blazer obstruction, and you wanna use a different pattern. You can you can do that. We've tried to keep it sort of agnostic at that layer much like react is kind of that way. We actually gives you a fairly simplistic view of the world and says, you know, whatever you want to do just do it on top of this laser is very similar. It's great. You guys aren't alone going to assembly now. Right. I mean, the go guys are there who else is come in like thirty see some other languages. Oh, yeah. Rest is probably the one who has made the biggest amount of noise about. And of course, most is also from Missoula who fiscally responsible for weather semblance as right? That's so that that's sort of makes sense I'm rust as said that they want to be the language for the web squad. Bold object. But you know, good book to them. So they pretty good intensive of having a good tool Chen full Russell also run on the servers..

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03:55 min | 3 years ago

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"Or anything like that. You can bring in the blazing hot web assembly don't J s bootstrapping script into any website, and it can work. But if you have a greenfield application, you're gonna use blazer, and you're pretty much gonna use that I would hope that for any grill. Greenfield scenario, there's nothing that so much missing from blazer that you need to be combining with completely different. What are you looking for data, binding wise, it is already there? Yeah. I mean, and the whole idea of the value you're getting from blazer is that you get to ride on that cut off you having to combine this with some jobs script teletype till something you all losing a lot of that benefit. What's the? What's the calling look like between the JavaScript space, and the blazers space sides dot net side, we've got a service called I jazz run time that you can inject into components and that gives you a method cold invoke and vocab allows you to call into job script, the Runtime deals with all this realization of the data as it passes from world into John script weld again. And then on the job scope side, this some similar API's that you can call. I'm so it's absolutely works. There's nothing stopped me from doing it. But it's not as fun as just having done. I live in garland is a UI limitations. Are we looking for more you? I components and blazer is that a not a strength yet. So if you want to use some third party UI component right that you don't want to write yourself. So an example would be say mapping component like it's complex. Then yet. You don't wanna ride that? So L just grid. I mean, we've all been them. But I don't wanna own that code. I really don't. Yeah. Okay. So on the grit side, we are working towards the point. Why it would be so productive that you could easily write y'all? Great, zilch. But haven't said that there was still going to be the mapping component scenario. And there's going to be back on the grid. There's going to be a control vendors who will make great than you're ever going to Rex already announced razor components. They announced for blazer apps, and it's great. They have a grid, and I can have a couple of other components. They also says well, that's what you guys were talking about a year ago that that's where you saw going is opening up. This whole new ecosystem of component vendors yet that started to happen. So so, yeah, I would hope for a lot of y'all. Thaddeus, schedule. I concerns you can get some ready components that just keep you in the blaze weld, if you wanted to reference some third party Java script component that does not have any dot net. Rapa then. Yes at that point. You didn't need to crack up in the dachshund. Ceo, the Java script into up wax, and Mick Kohl's into the map agape is elaborate wanna do. But hopefully, once you've done all that you can put your cut in a new package, and publish it. And stop making an envious off as an open source HTML five contracts like canvas and doing three d rendering utilizing GPU and wondering how we get it that front from blazer anything that you can do in Java script you can do from a blazer app. Right. Go through the Java script drop layer. Or, you know, most of the time someone's already done that for you like ambitious there are already community projects where people have taken the canvas API wrapped it in the blazer. John script, interrupt abstractions, right and then shipped it as a new it. So you can just install new package and interact in the nudist writing. C sharp, and you get access to that campus is a little bit of a awkward scenario with blazer because if you're trying to write like highly optimized graphics code in three like three rendering stuff. I mean, the blazer code is running currently on this like it's an I'll interpreter effectively running on web assemblies right performance for that type of scenario is probably not what blazers best suited for at least not yet in the future. We hope that we'll be able to take your C sharp code and give you an option to ahead of time. Compiler it all the way down to web assembly. So you can get like near native performance right for your code written in C sharp..

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02:45 min | 3 years ago

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"Portable client scenario, right? And it is dot net center compliant. It is shouldn't make any difference. Absolutely. Yeah. So is the Runtime that you'll use if you doing Zamaran if you're doing unity games, and it's a good fit for running on web assembly. And the monarch group is fully committed to ship in this production grades version of Mona for web assembly. So it's the clear choice. I think also there's another way to look at that question is not just about what should blazer pick dot net core or mono, it's really probably more about should dot net. Corey mono get closer together. Like, should there be more things that they actually share? So that you don't even really think about them as two different run times by chip by two different teams, Microsoft like Microsoft now for my old, right? And I expect that going forward you will see a lot more of that that the things that we have in dot net cord things that we have in mono that those will kinda get put in the same pot. You take the best of each and kind of make them the part of the same story on already doing things like that like the mono guys are taking code from the core effects repo that's used for core and bringing that into mono as part of their implementation, expect to see more and more of that. Because there's no reason to have to Implementation's of -ffective no-name thing. Right. Just need one. Well, that's always the argument. It's like be all consolidate encore by like you said. In some ways Manos, the more Cormet run on on lenox and windows, but Manos at a different level of portability again. That's right. And part of that if he is what was it depends heavily on on C construct s- lives, the web assembly space is you import from through. Yeah. Yes. They achieve that whole complexion to seven through the script until Chen witch compile sleepless, plus that plank based competition floor mats. So. Yeah. That they were in a much position to move on that, and and they have them it works, right? Just another fundamental question here is there. I think I know the answer to this. But there's nothing keeping somebody using blazer. With other binding, you I binding frameworks, right? Like react or angular. Did they work together? Do they play? Nice. Is there any reason why you would do that? It's an interesting question. I haven't really heard of people saying that they all doing that. Or? Would want to do that. And am not completely. Sure, what the snarls would be I suppose, I could imagine someone who's already got an I can get all react tough cash. And as well kind of starts put some plays a components in this and the answer to that would be absolutely sure he there's nothin' right now. Blazer is just a client side technology. It doesn't require Utah have dot net on the serve.

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03:54 min | 3 years ago

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"And then off it went. I don't really even remember it. Just sounds like the dog that Lunga history. Yes. Yes, that's at least a year ago, man. Maybe two. It was February that we kicked off the official experiment. Right. And we said, okay, let's take this teen. Not of this here previous year about a year ago. Let's take this this prototype. Steve Rowe for an indie demo, blue, David Fowler's mind. Let's let's see if this is something we can make real let's see if we can prove out the technology like is web assembly really going to be an appropriate. Compilation target something that we can use for running dot net code on. And let's see if it's something that people actually want model even appealing to to folks and some four we get into the update I wanted just sort of clarify to people who have never seen blazer what the relationship to raise her and blazer is Sean, and that's probably why you call it blazer, right? As a sort of takeoff on razor. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. So the idea with plays. It was too dot net single Tange application framework. So you can build your applications run in Abrazos assembly and raise is a syntax that combining see shop an HTML so raise it was a pep accent for. This. If you're going to write a rich obligation with C shop, you can see shop you need to produce Shimao. So, you know, whereas it does that and it was perfect. So yeah, it was it was pretty easy to modify the behavior of the razor compiler to make it for juice something that we could run in the browser on the client because that's such a central part of the experience. I wanted to come up with a name that had some relationship to resume. So hence that got nine. But yeah, now now we'll talking about raising components. Whereas components is the is the actual programming model. So that's the thing why you create components, and you can put components inside each other, and you can deal with parameters, and they have life cycle events and all that stuff. The things that the developer is actually building that stuff with every day. The core program in peace. That's what we call raise a components, and that is now common to both running inside the browser web assembly as well as running on the server onto normal. Don that call which is which worshiping pretty soon. So the goal is to be able to have the same syntax that you're used to writing for service side code just same exact experience on Houser. Well, same syntax at the level of things like if some four H is and things like that. But if you go up a level of obstruction to the idea of a component, which is a self contained piece of user interface, which deals with its own events its own life cycle, so knowing when to render in that sort of thing that's a new pro remodel. We didn't have that before on the server in espionage NBC or raise a pages because there was no meaning to do anything in a stateful manner on the seven is just you got a request me send box matched him L. There's no life cycle. Right. But for a rich client application they stateful exists for as long as they use. Or is they're looking at in klivans. And so you need to be able to manage events of time. And so that's the new program model that we've cried. Yeah. And so it's really the client is driving is maintain state in. It is making calls as it needs to render the new things to the customer one side Of of that. that. Yeah. So blazer becoming razor components like this that names going away. The new name will be razor Conan's, not quite so blazer is the is the spice framework. Right. It's like angular. It's like, it's like, okay, blazer uses razor components you use racer components in ablaze rap. I think a blazer is like the hosting model where you're taking razor components and running down directly in the browser. Okay. Well,.

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03:10 min | 3 years ago

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"Net software as contractor consultant for clients in Bristol UK in beyond plus wrote some books for a press such as pro as peanut NBC framework from time to time. He speaks a user groups and conferences like in DC and recently has been running a bunch of training courses on topics like see sharp sequel server, and of course, as peanut NBC. Also, you guys are working on blazer. And that's what we're here to talk about. And it's been a year since we've talked about blazer what's new been so long ready. It wasn't done. Now. Are you done? We have we have made some progress. Yes. Come actually, quite a long way. We actually just this week announced that razor components is shipping with dot net core throughout. Raise your components. I know that sounds like a different thing. Like, why why isn't even relevant, but razor components really is blazer components that we are now shipping and product is it a big chunk. Actually, a blazer is now in a shipping train is going to be released and something that you can use them production software would be for a long time. Blazer was experimental product initially. It was an open source project. Steve had with it. When it move as be dot that repository were like, hang on, just an experiment. Conference. Just like this one. DC? Would you? I talked about this thing that would become blazer. I don't think it was even name that yet, and I dated followers there. And I think he was physically holding his skull. Yeah. So that he wouldn't his head wouldn't burst. We could believe what we were seeing. Yeah. That was a fun thing. Yeah. It's, but it's obviously you change the the the underlying version dot net you switch to mono SR. It's still mono. Well that first demo it was it wasn't DNA. It was this done anywhere run time. I think you found it on get hub someplace there was some guy. I think he's I think he's at Google. He had written an I L interpreter in code. Yeah. And it was a Christmas. Can he's it was an amazing accomplishment. Rarely just one guy was able to this very functional dot net Runtime in few hundred see files just by himself work, actually, run real code. I mean, I don't think it was ever really used for anything in any serious production capacity to be able to make is quite impressive. And yet that was definitely the thing that made it possible to to proof of concept that it could be done. Yeah. Absolutely. You saw the. Possibilities. They're implementing all the base class libraries on top of that. And. Absolutely. And then the world was like blown away. It was later that we then move tomato right Miguel. These demo and said this web assembly thing is going to be something and announced that the mono guys we're going to support web assembly with with their Runtime. I swear the conversation about blazer and mono happened on Twitter. I seem to recall, I don't know if you remember, Steve like, we you guys going back and forth and other mediums as well. Oh, did you just chat about it on Twitter?.

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01:37 min | 3 years ago

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"Keep you busy for weeks months. Maybe even years thirty five workshops fan. That's us a lot. Yep. That's amazing. Yeah. It's good stuff. Nice. Find and I'm using it myself right now to brush up on some DevOps and containers stuff, and it's very cool. Cool love it you go no learning love it. Who's talking to you us today, regarded common show fifteen seventeen when we did back in February of two thousand eighteen with one Daniel Roth and Stevens Sanderson enough we were talking about blazer. So if you nobody your ago. Yeah, we had a conversation. 'cause this thing's been going on for a little while now. Yep. Talking about it this comet comes for Chris Horton. So this is probably about a year ago when the show came out. So this was a very interesting episode when area that immediately springs to mind, whether it can be great advantage and having the same language available in both the front and back end. So obviously C sharp running everywhere is valid. Dacian right as we used to be validating inputs on the client who assist with optician flow and usability purposes responsive and so forth, but also validating on the back end because people are evil. Well, for security purposes in controls, having common validation. So imagine building one library that does your valuation runs both places. It's literally the same code seems like a great way to reduce the amount of code you need to write maintain consistency around testing on. So keep up the great work. I'm very to see where see sharpen the blade and blazer end up. Yeah. Well, let's keep talking about it talking to plan. So Chris, thank you so much for your a copy of music. Oh buys on its way to unique you'd like a copy of music. Oh by write a comment on the website at dot rocks.

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