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Clockwise 291: My Fingers are My Meese

Clockwise

29:59 min | 1 year ago

Clockwise 291: My Fingers are My Meese

"It's time for so two hundred ninety one of the clockwise podcast firm relay FM recorded Wednesday, April twenty fourth two thousand nineteen clockwise four people four tech topics thirty minutes. Welcome back to clockwise detect podcast that's older than it's ever been. And now, it's even older. I'm your co host Dan Moore, and I am joined across the internet, but my delightful pal and co host Mr. mica sergeant how're you doing Mike? I'm doing well. I am also older. And so are you? Yeah. No. I know and I'm about to be older still. Today, we have of course to wonderful as we always do and this week. They are to my left a tech editor and reporter from CNN. It's my former colleague from world Heather Kelly. Welcome back other. Hello and to my left. It's emoji. Historian and chief emoji officer at emoji pedia. Let me say emoji one more time for Jeremy Burge. Hello, Jeremy, Mike. Hello, Dan and Hiller had the full out annual clockwise catch out. He's coming over here to catch up. It's the only place we have that's true as we do it in just thirty minutes because we're really efficient. So I'm going to kick things off with a rumor that just started circulating a day or so ago that the ipads update this year, the new version of IOS will support cursor 's mouses mouses mice. Track pads pointing devices et cetera. And so my question for you is that something that you want on your ipad. Or do you think it's not really necessary? Where do you come down on that kind of thing? Heather when we start with you. Oh, goodness. I mean early on where like this could replace a computer, but Ono there's no mouth. I kind of think we've all moved on though. And we just accept I've had for what they are which are like little entertainment boxes for your children in restaurants. And he doesn't need a mouse. But I mean, I'd give it a try, and then I would probably never use it again. My fingers are my Meese. So I don't really need a mouse or pointer because I've got fingers do that. I understand the idea there is some level of of. Oh, I don't know very close manipulation one can do when they have a curse, sir. But if you're talking about ipad pros or frankly, most of the ipad models now can accept input from the apple pencil Beit version one of virgin too. And so I don't I don't think that we need me on the ipad because we have either our finger which does well enough and for closer manipulation of the screen. You've got the apple pencil, logic, crayon, etc. Etc. Jeremy your thoughts, I mostly agree with you all I feel like if I was the the kind of person that uses the ipad with the external cable. I would like the track pad. But I I'm not that person. So yes, but I'm -solutely. It's getting more common. I do see a lot of people out and about with sort of their ipad on one of the keyboard stands. And I think that the reason I haven't got one of these people at stands because I think it would be annoying poking up your screen, and then getting back to your keyboard sort of really that much. Honestly, if I had to prioritize something they seems fine. I'm sure it's quite good for excess ability. I'm sure there's some people that that would be quite helpful for me. Personally, if I could prioritize something please put in cropping rotating video instead because I you know, when you take a video, it's the wrong, our intake change it. So do that instead of the point please. Those were the options the two things they were weighing. So that's it. That's on a big whiteboard. Yeah. I I don't know. How I don't know what to tell you, it might might be bad news. I think I'm with most of you. I think the IOS general this sort of direct touch model seemed like it was a step in the foreword department, and sort of going back to using pointed devices seems like a little like why add that layer of abstraction, I do use a keyboard standard decent amount. And in fact, I feel like I have adjusted pretty well to like type type type reach up touchscreen so much though that I find myself doing that on my laptop all the time like having to physically restrain myself from up like smudging, my screen all the time. So I actually what I really want is touch interfaces on my MAC. So if we turn that on its head. I don't know if it comes before or after the rotating video thing, but let's let's keep that in mind. I think there are some precision places where you know. This might be useful. For pro users thing about stuff, like podcast editing, or video editing. Be more useful. But as Mike said the support for apple pencil really potentially gets rid of that. So I don't know I would not put this super high. But I guess there's probably a subset of people out there who think this'll be what it takes to make this into a real, computer. So good for them. I guess then I have a question. Sorry, when you copy screen they're dragging or you just tapping. So I find like when my ipad. If I put it in the upright position, it's fine to tap on things. But if I want to drag stuff around just tip oval doing it. I know I have to do the thing where it's like, I hold it with the other hand. Yeah. It's like a full audience. Yeah. I would recommend it. Well, thank you for your thoughts on that. Let us go to our second topic which comes from Heather. Okay. So this one was probably saw this coming. The fold has folded. It was it was Samsung brilliant, terrible idea. Unlike its last terrible incident did not go up in flames. But it is no longer around. And as a tech reporter like these these failures are some of my favorite stories to cover, and I was just wondering if anybody had their own favorite absolute tech disasters from the past. So I didn't keep in mind that I was going to be the first one. And so I wrote down four different answers. I promise I'm not going to give them all because it'd be unfair. And I'm not, Dan. Dan, love you. So I'm going to go with the Amazon fire phone it. Didn't it didn't bend and break. It didn't catch fire. It didn't take off a kids hand. But it was an absolute failure. That was compared to what was it an ET game that that they dug up and like buried? Tari ET game from the eighties. Yeah. Yeah. And there's got to be a place out there somewhere where Amazon fire phones are slowly biodegrading one hopes in the ground. It I think it had like a weird. No glasses three d effect. And it was pre-. Alias say voice assistant. It was just all kinds of bad and Amazon seem to be very very bullish about it. And because of the way that Amazon is set up like they could Mark it all over the place, and everyone is just kind of like, no, we don't really want this thing. So can you just be quiet about it? And they wouldn't let it die for too long. And then finally went away, and I think people were better off for it. And I can remember everybody just sort of dogging on the Amazon fire phone. So that's that's my favorite disaster. So to speak. Jeremy, what's yours? So I'm still harboring resentment about my family's. I MAC that we bought his child. It was a Performa sixty two hundred which. Subtle looked like the MAC Elsie. It was one of those pizza box on. So you put the monitor on top of the tower. I guess the towel sideways, and we didn't know what the time because we didn't have the internet. But apparently, it was sort of notorious it was a one of a problem model. Maybe like the keyboards today. This one was known to just be a dud that would always crash, and it spent most of its life out of wasn't an apple store. I guess a MAC repair shop at the time. It pretty much taught me everything I know about troubleshooting today because as a twelve year old kid, you'd get the MAC back from the shopping awake later, it would break and native disable extensions and delete preference files and all the things. So I don't know if this happened to apple today, it would be a scandal. But at the time they had thousands of max it same to nail will kind of bases. So I think it probably that other things to worry about maybe in nineteen ninety six oh, but I still feel bad about. And if someone would like to reimburse my time child that would be great. It's funny actually had sixty three hundred CD which was also notoriously bad definitely had to lead the logic replaced on that it was mess, but pretty much for mine. I'm gonna say cast your mind back to the delightful year of two thousand five when Steve Jobs got up on stage and introduced a phone that worked with I tunes. Yes. The Motorola rocker are okay. Are was a garbage phone. That was made a deal with Motorola, it was basically a rebranded version of one of their other candy bar style phones. And it was the only smartphone that worked with tunes protected media. And I think what is my favorite bit about. This is just the fact that Steve Jobs had to go onstage talk about this thing in glowing terms, even though you know, he knew that they were building the iphone right then. And it just you know, it was going to take a couple more years to get it out. And well, this is not the infants incident where Steve Jobs through a device off the stage. That was in fact, a camera. I believe I feel like he wanted to he really wanted to hurl. This thing off the stage. It did not despite the fact that it kept going into two thousand nine. It was not a very successful device. I believe and it's interface was was pretty terrible. So, yup. Really glad that that was a thing. Well, I was gonna say when does phone, but we've had a lot of phone. So I'm going to go with the nexus q which was like three hundred dollar little media player server thing that had nnounced I think in two thousand two thousand twelve and then make sheltered about a year later. And I think about it a lot because I imagine also that there is a warehouse filled with these like black bowling ball devices that somebody's gonna uncover a few hundred thousand years and go what this feel it on here. And I you know, I thought it was really cool in the came out. And I wanted one, and it looked great, and it just it just died, and it was a little sad. So that would be my pick. There are a lot of other options. I sort of went back and went down memory lane, thorough, hotter, really bad tech products that we could have chosen, but we don't have the time because we are already two topics in which of course, means it is halftime here clockwise, and this week's episode is brought to you by our good friends at Lynn owed winnowed, you can instantly deploy and manage an SSD server in the cloud, and you can get a server running just seconds with your choice of Lennox resources, and node location lynyrd has hundreds of thousands of customers that might seem a lot. But they're all looked after by limos incredible twenty four seven support team. If you ever run into any problems, you can drop an Email. You can give them a call. You can chat over IRC in the community. If that's easier. I hear they take pigeons. Ravens if you're up in the the Nightwatch territory, whatever suits you best. They have super useful guides and support documentation. 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That's Lynagh dot com slash clockwise and promo code clockwise two thousand nineteen to learn more sign up and make the most of that twenty dollars credit. Our thanks to Leno for the support of this show and all of relay FM that brings halftime to an end. So we turn it over to Mike. So a Google subsidiary has just recently received FAA approval to be an airline. And what this does it's a drone delivery business. And now that it is approved as an airline. They're doing some tests in Virginia to do actual like package delivery to different homes. So my question for you as we continue to see companies kind of do test programs, and this one sort of do the first real deal program. What are your thoughts on drone delivery being a potential future for us? Jeremy we'll start with you. This is Tom. I I I feel like it's one of those sort of like visions from the sixties of the future. And you know, we're going to be all the Jetsons. And we're gonna be flying impersonal 'cause we're gonna have Jordan's like this people who understand transport and delivery, and and and this things that work in cities in particular where we've got the biggest issue, right? There's not much space for a lot of people. And that's why joins don't work because the toll buildings and narrow straits. That's that's the challenging pot and this ways to handle that sort of cog bike deliveries e bikes, you can get big trucks loaded onto small little vans. And you can do all kinds of things in cities that a smarter news the straits efficiently and get things out there and then in the countryside. What do you need a journal for is the highway to the middle of no way, you can this thrive down the street and this plenty of room. I do not understand why this is considered to be a thing with all the companies freaking out thinking. Amazon's doing it. We've got to get in on this. Or is there some secret formula? But I'm not aware of that this is necessary for something maybe one of you is very pro drone delivery. And can explain to me when adjourn would be better than a truck? An e bike anything else. Oughta join I don't get it. Drones are always. But now that's not true. I. Yeah. I'm kind of with you. I think this seems like one of those novelty things like in people's heads seems a lot smarter that it seems like it's potentially faster right there sort of straight line paths rather than having to follow streets, and whatever. But I gotta think that like, you know, certainly the stuff they're starting with now the drones it's gotta be fairly small because the Germans carrying capacity is not enormous. And so potentially that could take the weight off having lots of cars drive around trucks delivery, truck, showing up with all these boxes if you're just ordering something that's that's really small and light and maybe that helps with pollution. But I also don't feel great about all these drones buzzing around especially because we've certainly seen recently incidents with drones affecting things like airports when people sort of maliciously decided they wanted to screw with people at airports, and I just don't know how about the cluttering up of all the airspace. Are they're going to be thousands of these things just whizzing back and forth. What happens when they hit birds happens when? They lose power suddenly crashed into the streets. Like, I just feel like I feel like this probably causes more problems than it, actually solves. I did like the one I guess they were testing down in Australia where delivered like a spread. So and it's like oh good flying economist robot with hot liquid what could possibly go wrong with that Alicia. Yeah. It's just open your mouth, and pour it right in my mind. We've done this to ourselves. It's all on us. What do you think about drones delivering all your stuff that leads beautifully to the thing that I think about most about this is that I cannot wait for the first lawsuit say that especially dropped on your head and your burnt are you going to see the restaurant the barista the person who did the drone packaging, you know, before it took off the dome company Google, they're going to be injuries. Maybe a few like drone burrito deaths, and they're going to be some lawsuits. It's going to be. Interesting to see how that unfolds I will now also defend the drones. In some countries. Like, it's ridiculous in the US and all countries, it just doesn't make sense. But there were some really cool stories of them being used in countries where the infrastructure was not great and traveling by land in a car could take hours, and they were using it to take blood from point a to point. Like eight times faster than they could drive it there, take a motorcycle. And that that was cool. It would also be interesting if the blood out of the sky and landed on somebody and that is another lawsuit. I would watch carefully. Alrighty. So I think I've learned today that Heather's middle name is shot and Freud. But other than that. I really for the most part. Yeah, I agree that this is one of those things where in many places, it feels like it's solving a problem that doesn't actually exist. But in those particular places where transfusions and vaccines and even think I didn't see too wasn't too long ago that I saw something about like transplant material being taken via drone that is where I think there's some really cool stuff to this. That makes sense. Interestingly the I can't remember which. Virginia government person was talking about this. If it was the mayor or something like that in within the city, or whatever whoever it was they were saying that they liked the idea. Oh, the county administrator was saying that it would be good because it is it is very mountainous in south West Virginia. And so apparently, it can be easier to fly a drone as opposed to drive those big delivery trucks and in the mountains, whether or not that's a good enough excuse, I don't know. But certainly an interesting thing on the less, and if we if we don't fix our climate change future, we might like it if we're all living in rising water levels on little islands. I could have maybe these companies are up to they can pick a little floating islands with drugs deliveries getting to all of us. They've plugged it into their AI systems and have run thirty forty fifty years at of the future money that long and. Yeah, that's what it's what it's going to be drones everywhere. All right. Thank you all for your answers on that. Let's go to our last topic which comes from Jeremy. Our breaking news. I am about to move from London onto a I've just bought a boat and that to go live in a boat and travel around the countryside and the real story, and I've been selling myself and all my things it's annoying. It's really annoying selling things telling bunch of tech stuff. Do does the side gum tree exist in the US twenty of you have any of us. It's like Craigslist. I've heard of it. But I only knew it from Australia because of trillion podcast. I listen to. I think I don't know which I, but as far as I can tell it's like, it's just the same as Craigslist. But I'll put things up put my printer up all my airport express up there. You know, things that are worth something to someone. And then you get these sort of inquiries from people going on high is still available in your right back in one minute and say, yes, it is. And then you never hear from them again. What are you doing? Who is sending these inquiries and then just never following up. What is wrong with everybody? Is that me? Anyway, before I go on before I fill up the rest of the time complaining about people on the internet. Could you tell me what you do with all your old text off? Do you sell? It you give it away. What do you do? I really thought this would give me a referendum on whether or not we thought it was just, you know, Jeremy. Yeah. I, you know, even weird situation where for a long time all the tech I acquired was via work, and it wasn't stuff that I was free to sell because it was given to me as review units these days, I tend to buy much more of the tech for myself. I tend to use it a lot longer to because I'm also not on a huge companies budget where I can just buy new stuff every year. So some of the stuff I've decided to get built in replacement for for example, I'm on the iphone upgrade program. So I don't have to worry about getting rid of an old phone every year. I just want it out for a new phone apple take sealed phone and probably sells to somebody else. A lot of money on the occasions where I have sold stuff off. I often use gazelle or a service like that where you can sensually they make it really easy to sell off technology. But they again, this challenge there is that it's very specific you can sell off like a phone or a tablet pretty easily. But if you've got sort of random pieces of technology that you've cumulated it's. It's not really set up for that. So I haven't really tried to do stuff on Craigslist or the equivalent or EBay all of that strikes me as just way more trouble than it's actually worth. I do know some people who have had success just putting up their own little like garage sale pages. Essentially and be like I have these things peas feel free to go and buy them directly from me rather than using an intermediary. But that's also a lot of work. So for the most part, I tend to try to get around that by giving away my old tech. Whether it be to family members or friends who just need something that has outlived its usefulness for me, but possibly not for them. So yeah. Or in the end, I probably just end up with way more old tech than I need and eventually end up just recycling it and giving up getting up angle. So a thing I know you can do, and I don't want to do this that you can donate it to like local schools, and libraries, usually appreciate technology. I'm still in the boat almost all my technology being like review units from companies, and it is my secret. Shame that haunts me. It used to be a closet in my house, but to avoid the divorce. I brought it to my office where it is also still in the closet, and I need to send a lot of it back. I get a lot of emails from companies, but there's also things like a bag of nexus phones. And I don't I don't know what to do with them. I might just like leave them on the street corner. And hope somebody's. But back in the day. I used to do everything on EBay, and, you know, make some cash, but I would never ever sell a company's phone because that is how you get fired. For me. I have sold a lot of my old apple stuff on gazelle others of it. I've given away to family members or friends. My old that apple watch out. I used to use before I got the new one went to my partner my old. I Pat many went to my grandma she loves it so much, and so it just depends. If I have like, it is a sort of gut check algorithm that I look at the price that I can get on the product. And if my gut says, no, then I keep that thing. And I give it to someone instead of selling it. And so yeah, just kind of depends on what it is. But gazelle has been the one that I use the most. But there is a company it's called orchard and. It gave me a little bit more money for my iphone before I went to the apple upgrade program. And so I ended up sort of comparing prices between orchard and gazelle, and I was able to get more money from orchard for my phone. And then I sold a MAC book on gazelle and made a good amount of money. I tend to not like the more active approaches like with EBay and things like that. Because I have to worry about shipping, and I have to worry about making sure that they pay me and have to do all of that stuff that I don't really want to have to worry about at all. So it's kind of like a mixture of being lazy and a mixture of of determining value, and then going from there to decide whether I choose to sell it or keep it and give it to someone. But yeah, I mean when you're going onto a boat. That's a lot of. Yeah. A lot of stuff to get rid of. Yeah. So it's it's been fun. Yeah. I think it is every time. I always do the thing you look up some of these voices. I sold a few things through Apple's sort of. They've got a re I guess sevice gazelle with I'll buy things back off you. But then you look at the prices, and it's it's very lower for some of them. Honestly, I think they gave me something like thirty pounds on my apple watching. I don't know then obvious sometimes you don't want to give it to family and friends. I don't wanna give someone a three year old apple watch. Oh full year old apple watch. Because I feel most I'd prefer them. Either have good one on not one at all rattled and give them some kind of low end. So I've done a mixture I have done what you've said Heather, I've I have literally sometimes when I get something. It's just not worth selling put a little sign out the front of my house. I please take and put out various bits of tech. And they always go in a few allies drones by and pick it up. She. I don't know. There's no good answers. I think it is. Also just me to answer the question. Well, we've solved that problem at least. And the good news is that brings us to the end of our four topics. We've just enough time for our bonus topic. 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All right this week bonus topic this weekend marks the release of ventures and game like fifty thousandth movie in the franchise. So yeah, let's just do it who is your favorite avenger. And if you don't have one I'm just going to give you one. That's how it works. Heather my favorite vendors the war because I am a human with. Oh god. I love it. My I think this counts mantis, I really like mantis mantis is so cool legit. Is the event the one with the little tree? A little tree guy all very cute. And for me, captain America. I'm an old standby t's a handsome, man. What can I say? And he's from my neck of the woods. So that that helps to there we go we've established now who will live and who will die which is great. And we have reached the end of our show, which means all we have to do is. Thank our wonderful guests Heather Kelly. Thank you so much for being here this week. Thank you next time. It'll be better. Jeremy birds. Thanks so much for joining us. Thank you. I'll come to you from the canals of the UK next time. That's so fun and Mike and Mike. We should go in a boat sometime or something. But yeah, yeah. I live right next to a very popular lake destination. So man, I've got a lot of water near where I live in probably more and more as time goes by. Do on from different books. On a different the quad boat cast, but we will not do that next week. So until then I remind you watch what you say and keep watching the clock by everybody.

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Clockwise 261: One of Those Vinyl People

Clockwise

29:58 min | 2 years ago

Clockwise 261: One of Those Vinyl People

"It's time for episode. One hundred sixty one of the clockwise podcast from relay FM recorded Wednesday, October third, two thousand eighteen clockwise or people or tech topics. Thirty minutes. Welcome back to clockwise. The tick talking tech podcast. I am one of your hosts, Mike sergeant and joined across this very vast internet by my co host Dan Moore and Hello, Dan. That's my best. Take talk. Bad. I was linked eating cereal on the podcast, tick, tock cereal. It's our new clockwise branding opportunities, q. all the drawings. I can't wait. You folks know how this podcast works. We've got two awesome guests and I- employers to introduce Matthew Cassar Nellie who of course is the co host of supercomputer a writer. I'm more and the sweet setup did a thing or two with the workflow team. I've heard. Matthew's. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome to the show. We're having to have you. Thanks for having me. I've been listening for a long time since the workflow is actually awesome. And to my left a freelance writer, tech journalist and co host of many podcasts, including all about Android and material right here on FM Florence. I on his back. I flow how you doing good morning everyone. It is first thing in the morning for me. Or it's arts lunchtime on this. I'm jealous if your energy, I'm not. Gonna lie. Perfect. We'll spread it around as we go ahead and get going because you know we've got four tech topics and just thirty minutes. So I'm curious, digital media is everywhere. We're streaming music where downloading movies on I tunes where we're getting all of our interesting media kinda from the cloud, but I'm curious what physical media do you own at this point, Matthew will start with you. So I'm actually one of those vinyl people. Collection of albums on vinyl that I got 'em probably partially from living Berkeley. There's a couple goal record stores that have been here for years and years, but something about just putting a record on is more Mike engaging experience for me than Anna just shuffling my radio or something like that. And I have, of course managed to get my vinyl connected converted to digital and then pass through to my own. So I am still undoing analog the most digital. When you say vinyl person, I was like your fun co pop. Is that what's happening. I am still got mostly digital in terms of both audio and a video. I do still have some old DVD's lying around every once in a while. I bought a blue Ray, but even there very rarely and I do have my backlog of all those CDs that I bought during high school in college. But yes, I haven't bought a CD and easily a decade. But the thing for me that keeps me physical medias books. And part of that is just, you know, being a writer in part of it is the fact that I was raised by two librarians. So books to me, always physical books have had a very special place in my life, which is unfortunate because they are the heaviest thing to move ever. So you know, you acquire a couple bookshelves full of things, and all of a sudden your ability to pack up and go someplace else is kind of limited. I do buy a lot of digital books these days. It tends to become more of the default, but I definitely hold out in like pick up certain things. In in physical copy, even hardcover if it's something that I know I really want to invest in in keep for a long time. So digital media certainly be more convenient, but yet haven't been able to quite escape the temptation of physical books. So I need to tell you that this entire summer, what I did is I bought, I actually bought used DVD's off of the internet specifically to rip them and put the video files legally onto my plex server so that I can then donate the DVD's the library when I'm finished. Currently, I'm going through seasons two, three, and four of Melrose place to add to my collection. And I've also ripped, of course, every season of Beverly Hills under to anno-. So all of as you could see, I'm really trying to get rid of these things. Really. Archiving I am. I am archiving them actually a bit because I would like to be able to share some of this trash with my children in with future generations. It's important to me that they understand the pop culture that I grew up. But the only the only actual physical media that I own are a too small little book shelves that I have full of comics and graphic novels are still thing that I indulge in quite often, also scenes. I really like to support. I really like to support creators still putting out physical media as well as a magazines like Angsi puts out a really beautiful physical media magazine that I love kill screen has a wonderful magazine and three DVD's, which are three DVD's specifically at one of them is the last season of sailor moon the original anime because it's really hard to find. And two of them are deaf punk DVD's. So there you go. So for me, I've got some vinyl person to. I've got some vinyls and I'd like to, I'd like to slap down onto the player, but I'm enough to follow up with you on that Matthew because I'm curious about how you're making it get to the home pod as fascinating. I don't have any physical movie or television media. I'm not a big movie, TV watcher, really. I'm more like a audio book listener slash reader, but I do have a lot of physical books from back when I was first getting into was doing freelance graphic design. I've got just a boatload of graphic design books and books from graphic designers and art books and table. Coffee table books, not table coffee books. That are physical and do take up space in my home. But for the most part, I've I've gone. I've come pretty digital, so thank you all for your answers there. Let's move on to our next topic which comes from few. Okay. So might topic this week is coming on the heels of Syria and shortcuts launching with Iowa's twelve and just in general, the Google assistant and Amazon echo assistant trying not to say the trigger were here. I'd say like competition is at the fiercest, but also all of them aren't actually. And so I'm curious in a perfect world, what would your ideal artificial intelligence assistant do for you? On a perfect world? Well, for me in a perfect world, artificial intelligence systems would be as capable if not more capable than like a human assistant in that I wanna be able to, you know, give a complicated idea across and have it essentially interpreted correctly. Deliver. So you know, if I want to ask, hey, you know, hey, artificial intelligence distance order me the sandwich. I like from that that deli, but make sure that they take off the pickles or whatever. Right. Like right now, an artificial in assistant can't really handle that idea. Certainly not in sort of a natural language processing sort of way. Likewise, if you need to change meeting time or something like that, some of these things were pretty close to, but like as soon as you get deeper, then a certain level complexity gets really hard. I always like to compare your current level of. Virtual since two being kind of like training a dog, which is to say dogs very smart, and they'll Bill death to certain commands, and sometimes they can even in first things based on that. But if you get past a certain level of depth, it just gets too complicated. So you know, I, I also would take dog that would go order me a sandwich. If that's an option. Dan, I actually am very much on your wavelength in terms of this just because I've been living with Google assistant now since late twenty sixteen and I've seen it. I have. It's been opened to very happy together. We are. It's just that I'm still having problems like understanding and communicating with it, and it's something that we're really working on, which any relationship. But it really is just like that. I mean, that's what it's like for for us. Now, my my little family, my husband and I don't know, maybe even the cat. That's what it's like for us. Now we have this other little assistant here that helps us answer questions when we're having like debates or whatever helps us figure out what to watch on TV or helps me actually put a channel on TV's. I don't even have to find my phone. I mean, I really enjoy that, but I've learned how to talk to it. So I, I do have to take a pause before I interact with it. And recall that specific like set of commands that I've taught myself that I've memorized and I really do wish that it could just be a more natural conversation. I wish I didn't have to say things in a very specific way to get it to understand me. I wish it could just send a text message. If I asked asked to. I guess I would like for it to be more natural, which I think also means that I would give it more access to things, but I think maybe I've already done that. So I think I'm okay with. I feel like it's a, it's a worthwhile trade off if it can be better at understanding exactly what we're asking for and that's tough. I realize humans don't always say exactly what's on their mind or what they're thinking what they mean. And it can be kind of tough to understand sort of what your intense Arve. You're just a computer, but I do wish that it was better at being able to get at the root of what we're after and then go farther with that in order to or other go further with that in order to sort of understand us. But for me in particular and this is something that the all of the assistance seemed to be working on right now, although Siri maybe not so much. The other ones have certainly talked about. This is better understanding what I want out of my smart home. And so knowing when to suggest things to me like, oh, wow, every day you unlock the store than you lock the store, then you turn off these lights. Would you like me to do that after I've detected that you've left the home from now on? Yes, I would. That would be great. Thank you assistant. That's wonderful. I would love to have those. So essentially taking something like Siri suggestions and combining it with the smart home in a way that's not like trigger the scene because you have done this every day in an app. Like I wanted to just exist in the space. Everything's all connected already. So just do those. We'll ask me if you wanna do those things and do them without me having to ask Siri or another assistant. That's in my home because of course got the three big ones to do that for me. I just want you to. You can ask me if you can do it, and they want to say, yes, then go ahead and do it. And don't involve me with it, and I think that would be fantastic. So smart home and better communication, Matthew nila thoughts. Those are all great answers. I mean flow excess, Mike wants a smart home, and Dan wants a sandwich with Novick. Your new assistant things short, please. I'd say for me, I've always wanted some sort of more integration with the data that I put into it. Like there's my reminders list with my groceries or lately. I've been putting in expiration dates for things because I always forget. And then it's like, when did I buy this? When is this good till? And then like my health data. So it could do like my meal planning for me is like, hey, you have to walk to the store to buy those and they have it in stock, but it's kinda hot out. So you're wearing. You should put on a jacket or you should take off your jacket and go to the store, get it, and then you haven't walked enough. So get this slightly healthier version or something like that. So tying all together, like you said, proactive and even with flows thing more of a natural conversation where you're just like, I don't really want that today and she figures something else out for you. I take it back. I want Matthews thing. That's awesome. So make that happen please. 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They were the coolest person in that moment, and I feel that way with text expenditure and work because I can be like, yo-you know how we have to do these new kind of templates, and you've got to you got a copy and paste all these URL's in and these titles in well, I've got a text expanders snippet and everyone's like, yeah, give it to me, give it to me. It's great. So if you want to be the hero at work, if you want to be the fastest typer, if you wanna get back to people quickly, you should check out text expanded from our friends at smile. And by the way, if you're gonna text, expand dot com slash podcast, you're going to get twenty percent off your first year of text. Expand techs, expand or dot com slash podcast for twenty percent off your first year. Thanks so much detects expanded for their support of clockwise, and all of relay f. m. let's go ahead and move onto the next topic which calms from Dan Nari. Let's get a little nostalgic. Yahu is shutting down the last vestige of geo cities. Yes, it was still alive. Apparently. In Japan. So my question for you folks is, where did you host your first website because come on? I know you guys did. I actually, oh my career, Joe cities. Because if in all honesty, if it wasn't for having GO cities that platform people to play around with HTML to be able to become a content creator on the internet at such a young age. Granted, my network back then was really minuscule it. It only expanded as far as the people that were in the same instinct be as me. Which we were quite many of us. Fans of the great boy bands of the late ninety s anyway, but it was because of that and sink website that I had as junior high kid that it just made me realize that what I wanted to do was to put my words on the internet. And so I was able to that. So thank you cities. I will forever. Remember you. I was just trying to remember what my first where my first site was hosted and it was a a hosting and domain selling company called fat cow, I think I remember this. Yeah, and I don't remember what I think that they just had like a really good deal. And so I knew that I could get, you know, multiple websites 'cause I ran a little web design company when I was in like middle school. And so fat. Cow was able to save some money on making these sites and hosting these sites for the clients that I had, and it was it was super easy, but it's funny because looking back, I've gone to the site and it's like super web two point. Oh, and also I remember now it was so much more complicated than some of the sites that we have today for hosting the sites for hosting sites, like square space and other ones like that. So, yeah, fat cow dot com was the first host, and I think domain. Seller of my of my website, I'd say for me, I didn't start out hosting my side as much. I was kind of born into the Aira of AM buddy profiles and my space customization because that got me pretty far into learning HTML and things like that. But the first site that I really used regularly was actually tumbler, and this kind of is an interesting story because I ended up meeting micro friend, my current girlfriend through tumbler. Wow. And I like somehow followed one of her friends, blogs who replugged her and there's a whole like tumbler, ask feature where you can ask people questions, and I'm pretty sure I was like, what kind of music do you like. Vinyl records and you're like vinyl records. So that's my big inning story. And I think I still have the tumbler page, but we don't use it anymore. By the way I met my husband on live journal, so it's not as. Exactly. I'm I'm feeling a little bit old here because it's the first account I remember having was on a site coal hosting service called I o dot com. And it was run by the gain company, Steve Jackson games, which made a game called illuminate, and they were. They hosting site was was luminosity online BBS. They're actually famous certain circles because they got raided by the FBI or the secret service at one point because they had made a game based on cyberpunk or whatever. And they thought they had hacked into a bunch of stuff. And so that's one of the one of the early high priority or high profile cases the f. defended. But yeah, that was my first at basically I had like a little shell account I could log into and I made a webpage, but I had to go to my dad's work and actually to actually be able to see it in a real like Netscape because I didn't have a connection at home that could use an actual web browser that was graphical rather than the command line text browser. Oh my God. I'm really old anyway. Let's move on. Thanks for. Your answers there, and let's go to our last topic which comes from flow. So I have basically been running my business off of pixelbook for the last four, five months, and it's I never thought that it would come to this. I never thought that I would be so reliant on chrome OS. I was very resistant to it in the beginning, I think because it had this era of, well, you know, this is for education developers, but I have to tell y'all, like this thing does so much more than I thought it was able to do and with all the improvements that come to the platform, I am just I'm shouting from the rooftops about what this thing can do. So not only am I running. Of course, chrome extensions, everything is through the chrome browser, but I've also got access to Android apps which is a vast library in all the improvements that have come through the Android app serve their their enabling me to do things that I could normally do on a PC. But. But I, I'm doing them through chrome OS. I also have an emulator that runs windows apps on chrome right now. So I still have all of my my little like windows apps that I need for things like bulk renaming files and such have that running on chrome OS. And so I guess, you know, I wanna know from y'all what you know about this platform, what you know. Would you ever consider using something besides a macro PC? Because I do feel like this is quite a powerful platform, and I feel like not a lot of people are aware of its capabilities, so I don't know why don't you tell me what you think? Yeah, I agree. I don't know much about this platform. I've heard you know, over over the years, I guess I've heard people get interested in it and then go away from it, and then some people have stuck to it and have been very into it. And now it seems like we are getting to a place where as cloud computing and cloud storage and all these things that exists, sort of outside of our devices become more powerful than these. These simple platforms with less powerful chips and whatnot can be all the more. Kit can be all the more useful and we can do so much more with them. And I think that that is sort of a fascinating concept, especially in terms of things like education and education in places where money is is more of an issue because you know, I think about the cool stuff that apple has announced in the past, and I think they just drop their everyone can create initiative where it's sort of curricula surrounding creation of music and art and all these different things. But so much of that stuff is tied to expensive devices like I pad and the MAC and not everybody can afford those on their own and not every school district can afford those on their own. And so having these devices that basically work as windows or portals into on. Online spaces and online tools and online computers, essentially, I think is a very powerful and potentially very life changing in many ways way to look at things. Those are all really good points. Basically, it was like, oh, great ideas. And I say the screen being like an affordable way into technology, I think, is one of the most beneficial parts. And I think it's also kind of a jobs to be done, sort of realm where you don't necessarily need more powerful app tops unless you're going into specific tasks and for most of the daily internet use that a lot of people, the average computer user does use. This is probably more than enough. And so it is super interesting. I remember my dad had a Chromebook and I always struggled because I think in Google docs, one of the dropdown menus would just go off the screen and he couldn't resign. It to click on it. And so that wasn't earlier version. But I think some of the like one keenness inbetween there is kind of what gets in the way for me. And I mean, I'm also uniquely suited to us now with all of the shortcuts stuff. And so it is hard for me to be like, oh, all switch because now I feel like I'm chained by the shortcuts up because I do like I can't do stuff that I can do with it on other computers. And so it's like, I don't think we shortcuts will come to the Chromebook anytime soon though. I think what this points out is that versatility in broad number of platforms being powerful is a really good thing. There's been this debate for years. It's not even really debate, but we still have about whether you can use an ipad for work. And of course, I think by this point, most people are pretty confident. Yeah, you can as long as you're not doing things that obviously are a little bit trickier like pro video editing, and even there that those those lines are becoming. More eroded I think the Chromebook is in a similar place where it's the kind of computing device that is going to be sufficient for a lot of people for the stuff they need to do every day. A lot of that is connected and documents, word processing, office, productivity, kind of stuff. And there are some other options, whether it's from other abilities that you have with that as well. In sort of that old, Steve Jobs, allergy, I think Chromebook is very car. Like, you know, it's gonna get a lot of people from point eight two point be it's not necessarily going to do everything that a MAC or a PC does, but that's okay. Most people don't need to do everything that amac where PC does. And so having the Chromebook having. IS platform. Having, you know, even the surface to a certain extent, all of those things contribute to more choice and more competition in this lows, sort of common computing platform that you know situation that we have right now. So as a result, I'd never spent. I have not spent a lot of time with Chromebook, but it doesn't surprise me that they're perfectly capable devices. I know a lot of people who do use them because they are again the the handle the tasks most people need to do every day, and that's great. And if you're especially if you're like, deeply invested in Google ecosystem, that's huge bonus as well right in the same way that those because we were MAC users or vice versa, you know, get a lot of benefit out of that too. So I'm glad that the Chromebook is doing well and improving in. It doesn't surprise me at all me too. I'm glad I really like what you're saying about platforms because I feel like that was kind of missing for while I felt like it was a very honestly, very binary tech world. And I like this. I like this. It makes me feel like a Bev. Rebel to kind of live in between to be honest, even though I'm using a pixel book which is like the most expensive Chromebook. But regardless, it's because it's one of the most capable. I do hope that after this October ninth event from Google that that there are some announcements that maybe bring more people to to lay eyes on this platform because a lot of the things that y'all were mentioning about, like some of the clunky -ness of the you. I a lot of that stuff is kind of in smooth it out in recent variations. And I think I think you're going to hear a lot more from this platform in the coming years. So keep keep your eyes toward that horizon, please. We can certainly do that. And now we can keep our eyes toward the horizon. That is the end of this episode. But before we do, I have a bonus topic for you. All I wanna know if you could instantly become an expert in something, what would it be? So I had to think about this one. I was thinking of all these altruistic things. And then I landed on. Break-dancing. For some reason. It's always this is very much from when I was thirteen years old, but I always thought it would be so cool to just be like, it's like you can't dance or whatever. And then suddenly you're like, oh yeah, and then just like spin on your head. And so I had always wanted to secretly take break dancing list how man there were too many options here, but the one I'll go with, you know, inspired by Matt's example, is drumming same sort of thing like sit down drum like like killer drum so or really much any musical instrument. Honestly, if I like I play the piano a little bit, but if I was one of those people could just sit down and play something that would be awesome. I'm also gonna airway from altruism because that's a very long list. Extremely long list, but I actually would love to be an expert at Pok Mon the card game because because I love it, I've been playing it for years online version and I'm building my debt currently, but it's hard to find a group to play with. And everytime I tune in to turnament s- it's almost like just dudes and like I love this game. So I was going to go with something ultra stick, but now fun. I wanted to one. It's along the lines of Dan, I would just I would love to be have I have a giant monster hands and people been telling me I should play piano for ages, and I really wish that I could just like sit down one. I dunno holiday get together and like start blasting out this. Awesome. Just beautiful ano- piece. That'd be so cool. Well, thank you for your answers to that bonus topic. They all brought me so much joy. All that's left is to think our guests for joining us, Matthew casts and Ellie. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you forever means than an honor. I love the clockwise show is like my little weekly digest and flow. I on. Thank you so much for being here this week guys for having me. This is a great way to start my day. Yeah, we hope that we're a great way to start everybody's and we'll be back next week to do that. Again, put until then, Mike, which remind everybody listening out there watch, which is say and keep watching the clock. Everybody.

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Clockwise 264: In the Parlance of Today

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Clockwise 264: In the Parlance of Today

"It's time for two hundred sixty four of the clockwise podcast from relay FM recorded Wednesday October twenty. Fourth, two thousand eighteen buck wise four people, four topics, thirty minutes. Welcome back to clockwise tech podcast that seconds, the motion. I'm your co host Dan Moore and and I am joy to cross this internet of hours by my good friend and co host Mr. mica sergeant I doing mica, your honor, I object. Sustained, I guess we can. I guess we can go with that very well in the south. Apparently, this is of course the show where we discuss four TEP tech topics with two fantastic guests to my left this week. My former colleague from MacWorld any senior editor at the wire cutter Mr.. Dan Frakes is here Dan, how you doing. Hello. Good to be here. Thank you. Happy to have you and to my left is senior cloud developer advocate at Microsoft. I was gonna say Microsoft, and that's because I was reading Chris cream. I love this, Chris, Crema warrant on Twitter. It is Christina Warren. Hello. Hello. So happy to have you back. It's been a while it has and I'm glad to be back on. We're glad to have you back four. These amazing topics which will kick off now. So starting things off, I'm I, this little annoyance with the way that Apple's calendar app handles having the same event on multiple calendars. It's got like rather than collapsing into one event like some third party calendars do. It has like gives me three copies of the same event and it's just annoying and I wish they would fix it. It's not enough to quite drive me away from this off wear, but I'm kind of curious if you guys have a tech nitpick with product that you otherwise really like something that just like it's tiny little crazy, but not enough to make you abandoned that product. Dan. Still trying to figure out why you have multiple Kaunda's. Sorry, wait their shared calendars, like my fiance, and I have a calendar and then I have calendars. They're part of larger groups and sometimes want to block out and have that calendar event so that like multiple different people know I've occupied during the time. So, yeah. There you go. There experts. Thank you know with the life. I'm gonna talk about Tibo and that is because I still, I I know I'm like a dying breed here, but I'm still a huge Tibo fan too. So it's, I mean, I've tried like, you know, the Comcast DVR the AT DVR. Tvos still, but to me is like the by far the best thing, but. Early this year, they updated their interface and it just like ruining Tibo for me. It's like everything that Tiba was was great about it was that it was kind of like old school and it was super simple and easy to use, and they're like, let's put menus and pictures everywhere and make it as hard as Basel for you to watch the shows you wanna watch. And so I've actually got like we have multiple tvos in the house, and I've walled off in like the secure enclave every tvos that hasn't been updated yet. So it never gets updated. It's not enough to make me stop using it, but man is it bad. Okay. So for me, I think that this might not quite fit spirit of of the law as we definitely having very law themed episode. It seems, but the thing that I'm going to complain about, it's kind of a beggars. Can't be choosers situation. But here I was big ING for them for them being apple to bring home to the MAC so that I could control my home kit gadgets on my MAC and you seri- on the MAC to do so, but what's missing and what doesn't make sense to me for not being included is a today, which it I think it would be nice because I do actually use that bar that you know the bar that slides out of the side of your screen that has notifications and the today, which it's us those things and use them pretty regularly. And so to be really nice if within that today bar, I could have just a little widget that has like my most popular. Scenes, which is a kin to what you get in control center on IOS. You can swipe down from the right side of your phone. You can force are three d. touch and then the different home options, your favorite scenes and your favorite accessories are controllable there, and it would just be nice to have that tour. I don't have to launch the home up, wait for it to load. And then Finally, I can scroll through and find the one thing that I want to do. Because as I've mentioned before, a big control freak. And so I'd like to do those things by hand instead of asking you-know-who to do them, and then having her fail me once again. Christina. What about you? So all the major operating systems to this point now have a dark mode finally, like a really good dark mode. Like like a MAC OS Mojave has a dark mode and windows ten just got a dark mode and I love it, right. I'm super excited and is something I've wanted for a really long time. But not every app supports it. And I know that this is one of those things where I'm like annoyed maybe annoyed with multiple people like I'm annoyed offered interest in makers because you know they didn't maybe make it as easy as it needed to aid for that stuff to get updated. And I'm annoyed with the app makers like chrome and yes, Microsoft outlook for for Notts, updating because then everything doesn't look. And it's one of those things where you try to get your aesthetic just right, and and it just sticks out like a sore thumb. Yeah, that is. That is definitely knowing having played around with dark modem hover for sure. Especially websites you go website and it's like no bright blinding white pages for you. I'm looking at this sheet this Google sheet right now, and it's like this is the brightest thing in my. Exactly. A back light because of the chrome browser is just like so white in front of everything. You're like, come on, come on. Those are all good nitpicks. I hope that some of the things that you're you're ship is sale. Dan, good luck with that, but maybe other ones we'll get fixed along the value judgment there at the end. Like you're nitpicks her good. But Dan, you're the run with Dan's nitpicking since I don't think they're going to the don't think they're gonna come back around for them there. Sorry, object. Well, well, you object. Let's move onto the next topic which comes from Mr. freaks himself. All right, so it's getting to be holiday time of year. And so over at work. One of the things we do is we put together gift list recommended recommendations for gifts, things like that. And one of the questions we always ask, everybody is like, what's something that that that you bought in two thousand eighteen that you just love? And a lot of these are big things like cars, blenders dishwashers, but there's also a lot of little little things that you know cost like ten fifteen twenty bucks and that India you're. Like, oh, man, I'm so glad I bought that. And so tell me about something you bought in two thousand eighteen that you absolutely love that is hopefully preferably something pretty inexpensive but brought disproportionate joy to your life. No, I feel like I'm playing secret Santa, but I didn't read the part where you can only spend twenty dollars. Okay. So I'm going to cheat, but then I'm gonna fix it. I this year bought and ultimate ears, boom, three like just came out, not too terribly long ago, but it is the ultimate ears, boom, three portable. It's it's a wireless speaker that is waterproof. They actually call it waterproof. I love listening to music and podcasts and audiobooks, and all kinds of things. While I'm in the shower, I known for my love of showers, which is kind of odd, but I am. I very much like big the shower, and I love having the ability to listen to music or what have you been there. But also the fact that this is like this thing floats and it's it's, it's loud and it sounds very good. I mean, it's not as obviously it's not as good as something like the home pot or some other more expensive and more. Ten fifteen tweezers or however much, but the sound quality at the size that it is. And the thing that's most ridiculous is how long the battery lasts. I take this thing around. I don't just use it in the shower. I will walk from room to room in my house listening to an audio book and I can just like hold it. In my hand, it's got a little loop so I can stick it on my belt if I wanted to. I love this thing. It goes with me all over the house and puts out fantastic sound. Now the way that I'm gonna fix this because that is one hundred fifty dollar product is to say that there are loads of different. They're all like made by the same company by manufacturers somewhere in China, but there are a little white speaker and they are made for the shower, and it was an exceptional device that I used for years before. I ended up upgrading this one and that thing was like thirty bucks at the most. I think it's a sound bodies. The one I yes, yes, still sort of breaking the secret Santa rule, but that's ok thirty bucks versus one hundred fifty. And so basically I'm just saying, I think everybody could really enjoy a shower speaker of some sort. I just wanna know how you cooked at to your belt in the shower. That's my only question. Very cool located shower routine. For the record. One fifty s fine. You know, didn't want you to go to like you know my my new dishwasher learning, right? Yes. Okay. Well, good, good. Thank goodness. Aren't Christina? What about you? Okay. So if one fifty is fine is five hundred. We're really pushing the envelope here. Relatively inexpensive is a relative term. Okay. Because honestly, the best thing that I've bought this year was the new Dyson era up the hairstyling tool. It's like a hairdryer curling iron thing in one, and I got it a couple of weeks ago and it's already changed my life and it's ridiculously expensive. I'm not trying to claim that it that it's not, but it's cheaper over time than doing a lot of blow outs, but in the spirit again of secret Santa things because I was trying to think back like a lot of the stuff that I bought this year that I've really love unfortunately has been pricier, I I, I've been traveling a lot this year. I've been to a lot of places. I've been on airplanes a lot, and one of the annoying things with that is that at this point, almost all my headphones are wireless, and so you can't use them with the in flight entertainment system. So. South made in another companies make similar things. But I liked pulp south's because it's white and. Has a good aesthetic make this thing called the airfli-, which basically is it will work with any paraplegia headphones, but it's basically and it will work with an into no switch, but it'll, it'll, it's basically like a bluetooth connector so and it has an eight hour battery in its you basically just like connected to a headphone Jack, and it gives you bluetooth to that device. So if you wanna use your air pods or your nicer noise cancelling headphones on an airplane, but watch the movie that's on that system because some of the systems are a big movie things you don't wanna use your your ipad or whatever I highly recommended. It really is because it super small and easy to set up, and it's a definitely improved the way I travel will Dan, I'm going to stick to the letter of the law here I've got to for you that are both relatively cheap. One is last year I bought an iphone. On ten and it had wireless charging, which is the first time I had wireless charging in a one of my smartphones. And so a Samsung wireless charger. And what I really like about this Hamson wireless charger is that it's like one of the angled ones, and so I have it right in front of my, I'm Acura and the desk. And when I'm basically whenever I'm sitting at the desk, I put my phone out and I pop it right down there. And what I like about the angle thing is not only can easily read the screen, but because of the way face ID works. If I like sometimes an alert will pop up and I just look at it. I just moved my head down. It will unlock and show me the displays. I don't have to touch the phone at all, and I actually just really like it reminds me to like keep my phone somewhere, so I don't lose my phone as much and it charges it all the time. So my phone always has pretty good charge going. And I think it's like the one I bought his thirty five dollars things. So it's relatively cheap. And then my second is cost me six dollars and it's not it's technological. I have a Mike that I take traveling with me when I go on. Trips and I need to record podcasts on trips, and I bought a nice cheap shock mount for it, which is great. But he came with this really crappy plastic tripod and it was the tripod was too low. And so I found in my collection of crap from years past a medal telescoping tripod that was intended for like a little camera, accepted headed different screw size than the shock doubt. So I went on Amazon and found as an adapter that let me screw it into this tripods. Now I had this extensible tripod that actually like reaches to the the height of my mouth and you know six dollars. Now I had this really awesome portable studio that fits in tiny little bag and I can take it wherever I go. So that was the best big, six dollars. I have spent in a really long time. All right. Well, for me, there's a lot of things I could have picked, but I was really, I was looking for me what was really cheap this year that I loved. And so even though things are moving towards USCCA everywhere, I think it's probably true that most of us still have a ton of things like bluetooth headphones, headsets speakers about. Bags, whatever that use micro spe- and microwaves be is the worst connection ever. It's tiny flimsy, directional every time you try to plug in you like you like, okay, I think I got unaware. I is that backwards. I can't see. Give me some is backwards. Okay. Now it's right, but it's just like, you know, it's a pain in the in the, you know. And so and I've gotten spoiled right between lightning connectors and USB like everything else. I just stick there and it goes in and there's no problem. So I found on Amazon earlier this year reversible micro spe- cables and like these aren't officially to the be spec. There's no nothing microbes. Peace back that says, this should be reversible companies basically just making these hoping they work right, but. But I got a set of these and they were like ten dollars for three. There was like a foot one, three foot one, six foot one. And you know, nothing will fix, use micro speed. It's just a bad thing. But with these, like I can almost always plug in and the first try and so- everyone in my house, I've got my career beef things to charge. I've swapped them out for these and every time I use them, I'm like, that was so much nicer that used. So it's the little things. Eight is the little things in life. All right. That is two topics down to go. But I, of course it is halftime here clockwise. And to tell you about today's halftime sponsor, Mike, take it away. This sort of clockwise is brought to you by our dear Powell's at casper. Casper is a company that's focused on sleep and they're dedicated to making you exceptionally comfortable one night at a time. 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I was holding in my hand and it felt so nice and I made me kind of feel sort of giving my iphone tennis max some maximum side I because of it. And I'm curious, when is the last time? What's your story for the last time you had kind of like tech remorse or tech regret? Christina will start with you? Yes. So I recall. The home pied. I, it was one of those things. In all honesty, I bought it. I think that I kind of had the intention of returning it, but I also kind of new myself in new that probably wasn't going to happen. And yeah, no, I regret the home pied. I don't have enough home kit things to really make it worthwhile in that sense, and certainly not more than any of the other zig and other kind of. Home protocol that would work with with other assistance and all that. The sound quality is great. I think the sound quality on the Sonos want, especially if you get two of them is equally. I think the two of them together as equally good and it costs plus it's Sonos and works the more things. Yeah. I mean, that was just a three hundred fifty dollar really expensive wireless speaker that works with music and my stuff, and that's it. And I feel like really burned on that. I feel like I should have taken that money and invested in more Sonos stuff to be totally honest. I'm gonna use it as the perfect launching off place to talk about how disappointed I am in my Sonos, one. And I got, I really was so jazzed about getting this is the Sonos speaker that I could put in my kitchen, replace the echo because it's got all the the, the virtual systems stuff built in. But mine is giving me no into trouble like it will just routinely not respond and we'll stand over at yelling the word. He'll just sit there resolutely not answering things. They'll have these weird bouts of literally like dealing with a sullen teenager and it kind of drives me nuts. It definitely drives my fiance nuts, and every time she starts doing it last night, she just gave up to a timer something. We'll be cooking and she's like, you know what? Forget it and started setting the timer on the stove instead. And I'm like, oh, I feel like now for traducing this into the kitchen and replacing because you really loved the original echo, but I really wanted the ability to have the Sonos speaker like Lincoln playing in the kitchen as well. So I'm feeling a lot of pressure about potentially replacing that with the echo instead. And I really wanted to love the Sonos one, but it feels. Sonos says, not paid that much attention to it. And there are cases where really works very, very badly. So yeah, I'm disappointed. So I think my biggest ever tech regret was probably buying a DJ DJ. I drone kinda like they're the big name. Everybody says, get them. But like this is like four years ago or something. I bought one and it never charged, and I went through their tech support for literally two years trying to get a working unit and. The initial thing was like here, send it in and then they wouldn't get back to me. It took months before they got back to me by the time. They got back to me. I couldn't like contest the charges on my credit card, and I went back and forth for literally two years with them. And I finally just gave up and recycled the whole thing and I will never buy DJ. I drone no matter how good they are ever again. Yeah, so that's my. It's a really long story. Hoping here. Well, we, we appreciate that, and we also appreciate all of the all of the regrets that we've had an. I'm so sorry that we've had to experience these things. There are lots of fun things that we've talked about two, we don't regret those things that Dan asked us about, so that's good. Let's go ahead and move onto the last topic which comes from Christina. All right. So there's been a lot of calls for a lot of discussion around the the Bloomberg big hack story, and there's been a lot of calls for it to be retracted and without debating the merits dismay of that story, how should companies or publications handle retractions and apologies? Do you think? I know this is an attack topic per se, but I've been thinking a lot about this because is not just publications that make mistakes and times companies released products that have issues or have to go back and say, hey, this charging pad that we announce to you, her go is never. Actually coming out. So how how should these things be handled? I mean, I think there are a lot of very clear and very easy things companies can do here and a lotta times they're just resistant to doing so publications as well. Proactiveness is a big one like waiting for an apology to get dragged out of you is really not gonna. Do you any favors right? People don't inherently want to apologize. Even if they know they've made mistakes because they feel like it makes them look bad well, makes it look a lot worse. If you drag your heels until somebody finally forces you to apologize that's not going to do your PR any favor either. Also, making good is much as possible if you're a company and its product that doesn't work like your you know sense sold ten fricks faulty drone, for example, you know, make good on it and make it easy to for people to get redress and to return things or get refunds, and then be concrete about what your plans are for the future. And I throw that especially to companies like Facebook, right? Which like these huge data breaches or stuff like that. It's like, yeah, okay. The cats are the bag. You can't do anything. Necessarily about fixing what already happened, but give us some really concrete explanations of what you're going to do better next time because otherwise, why should we ever trust you again and all these things work in these companies in publications favor because your biggest element of all this is trust. And if you lose that, it's really hard to get it back. Dan kind of took all my answers. I, in summary, speed just responding early on rather than like you said, dragging it out owner own in the problem saying, you know, we screwed up transparency, just making it clear like what's going on. So everybody knows what's going on. And then. Making good. Like Dan said, I think that those things, if you do those, you're gonna get even if you screw up really bad, you're going to get a lot of crap for it, but at least people respect the company and trust it. I think the biggest thing is when you when a companies try to avoid owning up to staff, trying to delay coming out it, just it ruins trust and then nobody's going to trust the company later. Right? Yeah, I agree with those things. I think in terms of companies you both have done a fantastic job of covering what we probably all agree on here when it comes to publications. I think about. You know this, this idea that the the juicier story will always carry farther than any follow up story that is the truth or any sort of story that is kind of a boring take on things. There's plenty of psychological reasoning behind all of that and why we want the shock and awe over some story. There's just like, oh, by the way, all of that stuff that you were super enraged about before. Yeah, that's not not actually true or, you know, this is why this isn't true. And so the problem is a lot of times the damage is already done, and I see that regularly when I visit home every once in a while and I sort of like the face of apple, whatever I'm home. And so my family will ask me about all these different things that they'd heard on the news and it's like, okay, let's go through this. Okay, this isn't true. This is true, but this is what you need to know about this. And often times apple will put out a press release or some other company will put out a press release to sort of clap back in Pearland today. Some of those things that are said, but those stories aren't the ones that get out there, though the damage has been done. It's already out there and people don't follow up and hear the stories afterward. And so I I'm a little bit too jaded about this to believe that a publication, whatever do such a thing. But I do wish that public ation would follow up with education and and reparations in terms of getting the true story out there and making sure that it's clear because some sort of like note at the bottom of an article that everybody's already clicked on and isn't going to come back to is not enough, and the damage has been done in that case. And there's no going back. So I. Somehow I wish the publication's would be better about that kind of thing would do their best to try and get the fixes out there just as well as they got the original story that got them a Jillian clicks, but I'm too cynical for that. So Christina, any last thoughts? Yeah. No, I think I got. I think everyone kind of covered it, but I think transparency think being open being proactive is public. The thing that I think helps the most and that's usually think where I personally get the most annoyed when things drag out and then the the, the apology or the retraction comes weeks or months later. And when when I was you said the damage has already been done either from a reputational standpoint or from a customer service standpoint? Well, we'll be proactive right here by going to our bonus topic since that is four topics, but first a quick word from our sponsors. This episode of clockwise is brought to you. App optics, DevOps tool from our friends at Solar Winds, the folks Solar Winds wanted to break down the divide between applications in metrics. Instead they wanna bring together dashboards, alert monitoring and management all in one place. You've already got too much to do. You don't wanna be navigating a ton of different interfaces app upticks monitoring that you can afford to run everywhere. Every minute spent finding problems, expensive with optics. You'll know if you're having an outage, reduce outage Time, Inc. visibility to solve it faster. 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Clockwise 276: That's Not a Place You Want Cameras

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Clockwise 276: That's Not a Place You Want Cameras

"It's time for episode two hundred and seventy six of the clockwise podcast from relay FM recorded January ninth two thousand nineteen clockwise or people or TEK topics. Thirty minutes. Welcome back to clockwise tech podcast that aims to add a little consistency to your day. I'm one of your co hosts Mike sergeant and I don't know if you noticed that little tinge of SAS in that intro. But that was my co host Dan Moore complaining because I put twenty eighteen instead of twenty nineteen in the spreadsheet. How're you doing Dan doing? Well, you still it's twenty nineteen but you're still writing twenty in all your clockwise Ritchie's understand. Yes. Well, we have a wonderful show planned. You know, how this works for people for topics thirty minutes. Let's get things going by. Introducing our guests to my left is a prolific podcast and video production. I know there's a word that belongs here maestro. Let's go with that. It is Quinn rose. Hello quin. Hello. I'm excited to be here. We're so happy to have you on. It's exciting. And to my left. Our second guessed the co director of ABC camp for girls, the proprietary apple watch madman, the host of originality FM right here on relay FM. A SIMS is back high a lean. How are you? Hello. I'm waking up. Let's see if I can talk today. So let's go ahead and get rolling question for you. What is something in your home? You wish was smart alternatively. What something that smart that really doesn't need to be Quinn? We'll start with you. Okay. So I like I was given a promise by Disney channel original movies, circa two thousand six that one day. I would have a smart closet in my home. And I know there have been attempts to do this with different services and different technology. But it still doesn't really exist. And I would love Sunday to have a closet that can tell me what matches what's fashionable. It could offer me different solutions for like discount accessories. That would go with my outfit that are available for sale nearby. That is what I want in my life. I think smart caused for me would just be too sassy. You're wearing that today. I guess you're not going out by Saddam. For me, the appliance in my home that I which was the smartest and it's already pretty smart. But I would like to see maybe a little smarter is I have my tea robot, which is the rebel tea maker, which is great electric kettle. But it's got a little basket. You can put your loose tea leaves in like puts in the boils water. And then it lowers the basket in the water and boils for however long you set and then it stays hot for like an hour afterwards. Basically like t- drinkers finally get like a coffee maker equivalent, and I really love it does have like a feature that like a timer where you can set it ahead. But some mornings you just like you don't know when you're going to get up. And I wish that I could just like press a button on my phone when I wake up so that when I get up out of bed. There's already a freshly brewed pot of tea without having to be on the scheduled the tarantula schedule of my of my team acre. So I wish it we're just a little bit smarter. But it would still take four thought of having to remember to put all the tea leaves infiltrate. Water the night before. So I guess what? I as I always fall back to I just need a robot Butler. It's new robot Butler take care of all this warming actually made that t- meeker in a smaller size. Well, I think sitting here debating a hate folding laundry, and I'm kind of piggybacking off of Quinn's thing. I used to have big bang theory. Sheldon. You see commercials with him with the folder. I don't watch big being theory. But this folder fold all of his shirts and clothes and stuff. And I want that but a robot. So Dan, I'm with you on the robot Butler because I hate folding and putting away close. And if I had something to do that it's like the combination of Dan and Quincy answer someone organize. My closet and keep it organized. Please do my laundry just all of that. All of that will interject there was apparently last year. I thought I saw something about this. Apparently there was this robot last year, sorted and folded, your laundry. Yeah. And I was like going ahead and putting some money aside getting investments in place trying to figure out how to make that a reality. 'cause I needed it Alina wanna say respect to you for making sure that the folks out there. No, you do not watch that show. Wonderful. Bad and all good answers on that. I'm also going to go the route of sort of a space that I want to be smart the space. I want to be smart is my bathroom. And I know people like, oh, golly. That's not a place you won't cameras. No. I don't want cameras. I want my floor tile to like heat up. Whenever it senses. That I'm turning on the shower. And maybe I want my shower to be smart too. So I could just say, hey, can you go ahead and get that role in for me? So it's toasty. When I step in it also will like remind me so that I don't leave the water running. And then also some information about like, hey, here's how much water usage you had today when you brush your teeth, and you did this to that. And then also the mirror would tell me like, oh, who's what's on your schedule? Today. Mr. Hodge, I think would be really awesome. So smart smart, bathroom, smart, closets and smart folders. All great answers Quinn. We are ready to move onto your. Topic? All right. So as mentioned in the beginning, make you videos, I actually recently just quit YouTube surprise, but. I'm still very connected with the platform, and it has multiple major outages over the past few months. The defected, basically entire user base. There was another one yesterday that wasn't the whole user base. But a lot of people were able to get on YouTube for over an hour. And so my question is just kind of thought experiment if YouTube went down tomorrow and just didn't come back. What platforms? Do you think would rise up to take its place actually think that he would probably be I know he's platforms there, and I think that's what would happen. I think we'd see a fragmenting because YouTube right now is kind of a mishmash of all this different stuff. Right. Like a lot of big companies use that to promote their for example, movies or TV shows, and then you have content creators, and you have people just uploading funny videos that they made right like there's a whole bunch of different stuff there. So I think a lot of it would gravitate towards other social networks. So I already seen. Lots of movie trailers posted on Twitter, for example, or Facebook same sort of funny home video type stuff, I think that would probably get in the social media. And then there's some stuff in the middle where I think some of. Those sort of pro content makers who are using YouTube as their platform would probably I don't know if something like video would still be a sort of a player in that market, but some other destination site, I think would come up probably eventually that would sort of supplant that. But I think what would be really interesting is that it would fragment into all these different services. And I don't know if that's good or bad. Like, it's it's good. Because it make sure that no one platform has too much control over the whole like video-sharing thing. But it's bad because if you wanna find something right now, that's video you go to YouTube. Right. It's it's the Google video. And so literally literally the Google video. And so it's convenient right because you have that model with source, but it also has its dark side as we've all become all too. Well, acquainted with I feel like we've had this kind of rush. Not rush the slow slow evolution towards centralization of video and social media. In where we share things. And now, we're kind of realizing, oh, oh, this is bad. We need to burn it with the fire, and we're slowly pulling pulling everything apart again, which I think is super interesting. I don't really know what the answer is. And I think that Dan is probably spot on. I know Facebook would like to be the new YouTube. But, you know, the the young ones do not like Facebook, it's for old people and their thirties like me. So I don't I don't know is like, what is what is video long form video on Snapchat. Like would that exist is Snapchat even cool anymore? I don't really know. You know, they're all of these of these things, you know. I don't think existing services like them yo- are going to be the answer because they aren't the answer now. And I think it's I think Dan, you're you're right. Like people if you like people are starting to go more toward on an individual people are starting to go more toward owning their content again and making websites, and this is still kind of tech nerdy that this is happening. But I think that it might spread a little bit further. So maybe we're not going to see centralisation anymore until people get fed up of hosting their own stuff. And we go back to another centralization type model. Just going to go ahead and hop on the little train here too. Because Dan, I think is correct. There's going to be fragmentation. It's going to be across different platforms. Or we already see that. When I worked for a video news company. We didn't just post videos to YouTube. We hosted them ourself. We posted him to Facebook. We posted them to Twitter we posted shortened versions of them to Instagram. And so those platforms already exists for video distribution and folks are using those platforms for video distributions of this is just if the big player goes down, especially for creators for for individuals who sort of are what is the word. I'm look for influencers and online brands those individuals are. They'll find some other platform to do that because you might build your following on YouTube, but in all of those little description boxes at the bottom, the links of the we do as it were. They are going to be linking to Twitter and to Instagram and all these other platforms where then you follow that creator. So if you goes down, then the person's going to tweet and say, hey, you can see my videos right here on Twitter, all suppose them on Instagram and on Facebook and elsewhere. And while I no longer have a Facebook. I think mine deletes tomorrow, and I'm really excited about it. Finally after a month of of the sort of inbetween process folks do still use that site to look at video. And when I was using it that's pretty much all I stopped to look at while. I was scrolling through the news feed Quin any less thoughts on that. I echo a lot of what's already been said, especially I think for larger companies that are just kind of reposting ads and movie. Trailers and late show hosts, and whatever I'm those are just going to move to wherever the audiences. But I also think that especially for independent creators, my basic prediction for what this would be is that a lot of people would go to Instagram is our primary platform because a lot of people already there. I still don't think they're gonna use I g TV, but I think they'll be on Instagram. I think a lot of people would be sort of self contained. I think it's possible for a lot of major craters on YouTube to even if they wanted to right now to sort of switch everything over to like just come to my patriot on page like you can see the videos for free you can support me right here. And I think that would be really viable model. And I also wanted to give a shoutout to tick tock because talk is the next big video platform that's coming up, and I don't necessarily think that it could replace YouTube because it's a very different thing. But I do think that it currently is, and especially would be if you to win away tomorrow like the next big thing, and where we're gonna see a lot of creators coming up and making careers, Howie tick, talk you heard it here that is going to do it for us for half. Time folks. And I am excited to tell you about our Powell's at Leonard. This episode is brought to you by lynyrd with Leonard you're going to have access to a suite of powerful hosting options with prices starting at five bucks a month. 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So I am desperately trying to get Google docs, out of my life. Gosh, dang it. And apple years ago. Like, oh, yes, I work in the cloud, and you're going to be able to collaborate. It's going to be so great and. Like what happened with that? I think it technically still exists. It's never talked about. Nobody ever uses it. I don't even know if it's cross platform at this point. So. It should be. So I would really love to see. I mean, I have complaints about kind of the I work suite isn't even called the I work sweet anymore. I have complaints about that in general. But I really wish that they were a competitor chew Google for documentation, you know, in in my new role at ABC camp. I'm in Google docs, allot because it's just the easiest tool for collaboration on putting together committee proposals and brainstorming and documents that everybody can access, and I'm working on getting off of that as much as possible and more centralized, but I would really really love to see some attention paid to specifically pages numbers as something that can be cloud based in collaborative. So here's the problem. I think that the services that apple is working on right now are excellent choices for the company. Any Apple Pay makes the money without them? Hardly having to try. I don't mean to say that as in like, it's not a good service. It's a fine service. It's just like they don't have to do much work to get the money from that. I just found out that part of the services of money that they talk about is actually coming from their deal with Google where that's the default search engine, and I didn't realize that they Luke that into services. So that was fascinating to me. And that's going fine. There are a lot of passive things. They're charging everybody an arm and a leg if they wanna have a little bit more storage online. I feel but that's one of the things that available in apple music is good. So I'm also going to break the question. Sorry, because I think that the services they have right now are good. I actually would like to see them get into smart home stuff. I think that Apple's home kit platform is fantastic. And if there's anyone out there right now going Mur. I thought it's bad give it a try. It's gotten so much better. It is not what it was when it started. And so with the home kit platform being so great my goodness. I would love to have a smart doorbell, a smart lighting system. Smart. This smart that where all I have to like hold my phone next to it. And it does that automatic pair thing that the home pod. Does that the air pods? Do that. All. These different devices. Do it just works mentality would be fantastic for smart, home stuff. So not services early. It's another hardware never met a question. You couldn't turn into a smart home thing. Did you? This is true true challenge accepted and completed Quinn. What are your thoughts? When I started thinking about this. I was really struck by Apple's kind of seemingly going into this TV world and wanting to develop more programming. It seems like and then I was thinking about how apple has this huge games platform that they do not care about and do nothing with. And I think it'd be really interesting if they did something with that and invested more like in Iowa gaming, especially for the I Pat I feel there's a lot of potential growth there, and partnering with people and putting more focus on that. And being like here is a place where you like you come to apple not only for your hardware. Not only four like these like Apple Pay services, or whatever stuff. You don't even notice using. But also like furrow your entertainment needs for your television for your games. And I think that is there's a so much potential there that they are absolutely not paying any attention to. Yeah. They they've really never gotten games. And I it surprising because it is such a big platform for them. So when I thought about this. I'm going to do something a little I'm gonna break my own questions lately. And say something that I'm kind of surprised they haven't really gotten into more as a service, and I'm I'm somewhat glad about it. But I'm a little wary. And that's podcasting. Because obviously they have the largest directory around of podcasts on the network. There are so many shows, you know, basically, if you're gonna go and try to show you're gonna go to items in the same way that we talked about YouTube before as being sort of the central clearing house and apple has not done a lot to try and get money out of that. They've started trying to build in some more statistics and analytics and stuff like that tools for county critters, but a lot of money to sation happening there. And I am believe me I'm fairly happy about that. Because I think they are generally been pretty good stewards of medium. But if you're a company and you're looking to squeeze revenue out of your services. It would not surprise me. If they tried to find a way to make that happen with podcasting. I don't know in what form. But you know, with that much leverage and control over it. It's hard to believe that they wouldn't look for an angle. And maybe they just haven't found one yet or they felt like the benefits do not outweigh the risks in terms of disrupting where they are in terms of their control. But yeah, I kind of constantly feeling like, maybe there's another shoe to drop there at some point. So I guess we'll see thanks for your thoughts on that. Let's go to our last topic today which comes from. So apple has this way. If not like officially being an exhibitor at ES and still making headlines at CAS, they did it again the share by announcing with Samsung that starting the spring Samsung smart TV's going to include in actions up weird home kits and airplay to capability and also that TV's from other manufacturers like L L, G, vizo and Sony are going to have airplay too. So what are your thoughts on this kind of partnership? And does this mean like some people are saying that apple is in fact, doomed I think that this is just an example of how apple is. Holding true to what they say in every single earnings call I transcribe those whenever they come around. And the number of times services is set in those calls is approaching one million. And so it's clear that they're trying to do Safai. And that is why this makes sense. Apple already does airplay to support for third party speakers. And so it's no surprise to me that they're working with TV's. Now, they made that deal with LG or they may the partnership with L G to produce the monitor for their macbook pros at the time. I think it was and so they're not afraid to work with third party companies on things, and I think that, you know, having airplay to support for not just music throughout the home. But now, oh, I've got a YouTube video or Vinnie Ovidio since YouTube is down that I wanna show to everybody in the room. I can airplay to it to my Samsung smart television, Apple's not making TV of their own. So let's get this functionality available. Well, as far as we know let's get this functionality available and ready for folks to us. I appreciate that. I think that's exciting. I hadn't heard about the home kit thing, and I'm curious. If it's just because if you add airplay to support to a device than it shows up in your home app, but I'm wondering if they're also going to make it so that the televisions work as home hubs within your home kit setup, which would be nice because the more of those you have in your home, the quicker your devices will respond. Yes. So very exciting stuff there in any case. And yes, Dan, I brought in smart homes in Quin. What are your thoughts? I think this is really interesting because from my perspective, I feel like apple was always had this very snobby reputation. They're extremely self contained. And if you want an apple product, you better get in apple hardware products because there are no other options. And so I think this is a really cool thing as a consumer. And I feel like it signals this that they've almost not to say they've seen the writing on the wall because they're still hugely powerful and successful in terms of hardware, but that with iphone sales being down Ono. I mean, there's only so many iphones. You can buy when the iphones. Two thousand dollars and so being able to put their products on these other services, and sort of expanding the ecosystem like that. I think really opens it up for more in the future. And I'm sure that with these kinds of things it's like there. There are going to be pretty strong monetization options in everything that they put in like Samsung products, I feel like if if not now than in the near future, and that that they're opening their themselves up to not only like be in good graces with consumers for the products to be available in more places, but also for future. Monetization streams. I think. This is a total win for pretty much everybody involved here for the other for the TV makers. They get the ability to just be like. Yeah. If you got nihilist device, you can just watch your TV. That's it. You're done, right. Like that super convenient. It's a whole new stream of content that people can watch. And it's a it's a differentiator for people buying those types of TV's for apple this plays into the topic. We just talked about which is services. If they're doing a streaming TV service. It's really hard to make the argument that like we've got these great new shows, you just gotta go out and buy this hundred and fifty dollar box that you connect to TV just to watch our shows right on top of the TV. You already bought? So having the ability say, you can watch your shows on you bring up on the ipad and just airplane to your TV. And I did this recently, my fiance, and I were up in at her parents house over New Year's, and we want to watch something in her parents have an apple TV, but don't have whatever service we were using. So I just brought it up on my on my ipad an airplane into the TV, and it were great. And so I think it gets airplay to really out there as a feature it helps jockey a little bit for positions Google 'cause like Google's had the chrome cast built in all of us martinis, and this just is the future in some ways talking about apple changing its direction and embracing services. That's going to mean getting, you know, getting their stuff integrated better with all the third party equipment. That's out there in airplay seems like a really natural. Natural opportune for that. It's no longer a weird thing that only works with your apple products. It is now a standard that could be used on any variety of third party products. So yeah, I think that's a win all around. Yeah. I agree. I do feel like harketting back to Jan your question. I feel like apples behind on services. And I think that's something that a lot of us can agree on that. They're kind of playing catch up right now. And it's smart for them. It's smart for them to be if they really wanna do services, right? They need to be on a lot of platforms because otherwise it's like, you might as well just be using I on your phone or carting your ipad around or you know, whatever. So I think it's a good move for them. I don't think that apple is doomed. I don't think the apple TV is doomed. I think it'll be a each product. Just like it is now, but it just brings these things to more people in more places. And I think that's a good thing. Agreed while we have reached the end of another episode. But we've got just enough time for a bonus topic before we get there. I wanna tell you about some of my truly favorite folks, it is text expanded from our friends at smile smile. Text expend multiplies your team's productivity, making up to date shared knowledge available instantly using text expand or all of your team's common responses are acceptable and searchable through simple abbreviations and keyboard shortcuts written and edited by your best writers available on multiple platforms. 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Clockwise 277: Say Hello to Your Little Friend

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Clockwise 277: Say Hello to Your Little Friend

"It's time for two hundred seventy seven of the clockwise podcasts from relay FM recorded Wednesday. January sixteenth two thousand nineteen clockwise four people or tech topics. Thirty minutes. Welcome back to clockwise the tech podcast ticks, the talk and walks the walk. I am your co host Dan Moore. And and I am joined across the internet. But my co host Mr. Mike surgeon how you doing today? Mike, I'm doing well. I'm walking the walk. Excellent. Are you also talking to talk because this is where we talk just so, you know, I'm I'm getting ready for that. You get start with the walk before you can run in the new run. And then you talk. Okay. All right. When do you chew gum? I'm I've lost. Somewhere in there. All right. Good. Okay. Well, this is of course, the tech podcast where we talk about tectonics with two fantastic guests to my left this week. It's a web editor at Texas standard, and the host of the parallel podcast right here on relay FM. It's Shelley Brisbane. Welcome back Shelley. Thanks, dan. It's great to be back. It is great to have you. And to my left a first timer here on clockwise. It's Indiana's developer and developer of the new capsicum app. It's shabazz. Hello ish. Hello doing doing well and happy to have here here. All right. I'll kick things off today with a fairly new story. The ipod touch is rumored to be coming back. As is the ipad mini, given that it seems like apple products. Just don't stay dead. What is a what is the device or other service or software that you'd like to see revived from apple Shelley? I feel as if I said this if you times before, but I already miss the iphone SE, and it's barely dead. Let's bring it back and make it faster. I would like to see the ipod zombie. No, wait. No. I would. I think that the ipad mini, honestly is that product that. I'd like to see revived. I see that. A lot of people seem to be kind of excited that they're rivers the ipod touch might get a revival. But the ipad mini is the device for me. I've always loved that thing. And we've got these bigger phones now, and they are slowly creeping up to the size of the ipad mini. But I still think there's a place in my heart and my hand and my palm for that tablet of tiny proportions ish, what are your thoughts? So I'm not going to service. I don't know if that has happened worldwide or nationwide yet, but I missed the genius bar. Apple store they that out. And now there's just kind of some stools kind of sit downers super-low below and I just kind of messaging bar. I like. Yeah. That's good. I yeah. They make you said a table. Now. It's super weird. I was a little hoping that you when you said service, you're gonna say e world because. Yeah, come on. The one I'm going to pick actually is the airport, which is near endeared, my heart. I'm still using an old airport extreme and I loved the airport express. It was sort of my go-to device for family and friends who just didn't want to deal with managing their their networks. Why would pop went in and just be like don't worry about it? Forget about it. And it ran very smoothly. And when I invariably was called to fix a problem. It was usually pretty easy, and I know networking technology has evolved the lots then we're all into the mesh networking these days. But I would love an apple mesh network product. I just think that'd be delightful, and I'm really worried honestly about what I'm going to do when my when my airport eventually dies. I don't know what I'll replace it with thanks for your thoughts on that. Let us go to our second topic which comes from Shelly. So speaking of the ipod touch words that are probably not said very often on clockwise. I am a fan of the ipod touch. I wrote a story about it years ago of commending it to everyone's attention, and we'll talk about that bit more later. But is there product out there in the world, perhaps like the ipod, touch, perhaps not that you love that? No one else does an underdog. If you will that you think is great. But everybody else maybe even get laughed at for loving it while I don't I don't have one that. I absolutely am sort of embarrassed to talk about. But based on the trends of nerds at this time. I get a little worried when I bring up the fact that I love the keyboard that I use for my ipad pro which is just the what's it called, the smart keyboard case or something like that where it's just that chick lit style. Little tippy tabby mouse tap, dancing keyboard? And it's built right into the case. I love how it sounds. I love how it feels and the keyboard that I used a today is just apples. Good ole. What is it magic keyboard? And I think that that is a great keyboard for me. But apparently, you're not a true nerd unless you using one of those very loud. Very ancient click humour DHS that just makes so much noise. I'm not I'm not all about that noise. I like my the key travel is just enough. But it's not too much. The keys are. Squared, and I can I can feel between the different ones, and I can very quietly type in case there's something that I need to look up while we're doing clockwise. We don't want the microphone to here. Issue. What is your shame? I guess my shame is the the magic touch bar. I absolutely love it. And that is not a popular opinion. And from a while little where he was going to go away. Because when the when the pro came out there was no sign of it being on the new fancy, Dr keyboard, but it was kind of updated a little bit in the last man, but pro refresh so I guess we haven't for a little bit. But yeah, I love it. And no one else seems to. I'm casting. My is around my office looking for something that I feel like is under loved I think the thing I've probably taken the most flak, and certainly it's not an unpopular product necessarily. But certainly among some of the tech circles that I find myself in it gets to write a lot would be the echo the masonic. Because there's obviously people have lots of privacy concerns or their weird out about talking to a robot. But is been frankly, the voice control technology aspect of that has been just a one of the biggest revolutions in tech for me in the last couple years. It's just having this sort of ubiquitous computing device where you can just be like oh, hold on. I had this question. I need answered or like to start playing the radio without having to fiddle around with my iphone, it's been a huge change. But yeah, I know it's not people's everybody's Cup of tea, and I've definitely taken my share of criticism from people. So I think that's probably the closest I can think of to sort of in an. Undug product that I really have favor of. So I do love the ipod, touch, and I looked back at this post. I wrote three years ago when I was defending it when the the sixth generation coming out, and I realized that some of my ardor has cooled because at that time it was just after the apple watch have been released and I wasn't on board with that yet. And I was like wait, I've got this ipod touch the performs all functions that people think an apple watch is good for checking things remotely when you don't have your phone listening to podcast says sort of thing, and I still think you can make that case, I'm a little less passionate because in the interim, my ipod touch went and died, and I became more of a phone Centric Orson, even though my phone's keep getting bigger is sort of a problem. I mentioned before I like the iphone SE, I love the small foreign factory. You can hold something in your hand. It's little internet device has all your podcasts or your audio stored up there. So you don't have to re about whether you have cellular connection or not. And it is a good you call. A remote control. You can call it an extension of your phone, but it's my little friend. And I've enjoyed having those things in my pocket. Don't know whether the situation is in the cards for me or not, but I I wanna pour one or drink out for the ipod much on love. Do you ever pull it out and tell people the say Hello to your little? That is a great idea. I'm full of great ideas. Well. We'll which we'll get back to. But right now, that's two topics down. Which of course, means it is halftime here on clockwise. And this week's episode is brought to you by our good friends at fresh books. Look everybody likes to save time. But it is especially important when you are freelancer, and I can speak to some experience with that one our friends afresh books. Conceive you up to one hundred ninety two hours with their super simple cloud. Accounting software for freelancers by simplifying tasks like invoicing tracking senses and getting paid online fresh books as drastically reduced. 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They are meant for basketball players. But you know, I would imagine that they're going to be lots of non basketball players who pick up these shoes, I'm curious. What are some future tech that you feel you're owed that hasn't yet? Conveyed something you've read about in a book or watched on a movie, that's like where is my blank. We should have this by now ish will start with you. You know, what I was thinking about that? And almost all my dreams, come true. But what I'd like is a working theory of Syria. It is. But if it worked. Your old that darn it throwing some shade. I like it. I'm going to continue along the similar vein as Mike os just to say like so the auto leasing Nike shoes clearly just a page right out of back to the future too. And I believe they made a limited version of those shoes at one point and the last couple years, so as long as we're talking about back to the future to clearly I wanna know where my hover board is because in high let me tell you. I remember talking with my friends in nineteen eighty nine or whenever that movie came out about oh, you know, there are they made hover real her reports. I'm not talking about those things with wheels on talking about the actual legs fluting overboard. And like when we were kids everyone was like, oh, you know, they made them, but they were too dangerous couldn't release them. That was like that was like the rumor that perk your percolated around. And I was that age. Mattel actually has a rewards in a lab, my uncle, Saul one. So I totally want. I totally want those totally dangerous. Really get a lot of people in trouble hobos, all we've got her electric scooters. This is terrible. So get on the hover boards, and then just ramp that right up to the flying cars, and we're good Shelly. What about you? So I made a mistake in interpreting this question, I nor the part that said something you've seen in the movie, and I think that's good because an awful lot of movies are created by dudes. And the things the thing that I want is not something a lot of dudes would think of is I'm a female person. And I would like something I could stick my head in and have my hair styled, perfectly beautifully off each day. So that I challenged in that area wouldn't have to worry about it. And I seen that movie yet. Although there plenty of actresses who look as if people to do that they don't need robots, but I wanna robot. I guess that could be the Jetsons as what? All great answers on that. I am going to have to go with a replicator. I just think we need to have a dog on replicator is that. Is that a replicator for replicating dogs is that what you're saying? Oh my goodness. No. But it should be. Yeah. Now, you've now you've really gone and done it. But. Pretty much everything. That's on the list. I think would be super cool to have. But yeah, I just waiting for my replicator, and I will eventually get there. I remember having a dream one time that I had one of those Mattel hover boards and a pair of self lacing shoes is as a as a kid and I woke up, and I was so sad that in my bunk bed like laying next to me. I literally checked when I woke up, and there was no our board or shoes, and it just broke my heart. I was so said you can't sleep with your hardware in the bed. It'll just float up to the ceiling. That's probably what happened is still in the ceiling of my childhood home. This. Well, thank you all for your answers on that. Let's go to our last topic which comes from ish. Okay. So there's rumors floating about that the air power unit is currently under production really soon and just yesterday. I think apple released new charging cases for the two thousand eighteen phones. The tennis tennis max and ten Har. Wondering are these things that anyone can forward to still or are charging needs pretty much set at this point? You know, it's interesting because people have been talking so the air power, obviously, we thought we were gonna get it last year, and I've been really kind of tentatively interested in it. I'm convinced it will be way more than I want to spend on it. But I really I have a cheap charger on my desk. That's like a little angled stand that I keep my iphone generally when I'm working on a desk because I liked that not only does it charge the phone, but it keeps it propped upright, and I like the idea of having this pad Matt on my nightstand. Because when I go to bed I have to plug in my phone after plug in my watch, and it's just you know, it's like little little morass of cables there, and I really wish I could simplify that. And just have a pad that I could just pop them down on and be done with it, and I know other competitors do exist, but you know, I kind of love the idea of an apple design pad. I thought it looked pretty good at thought it would. Well on my nightstand. All that jazz. So I'm still kind of tentatively interested in buying one. I'm a little wary, you know, all the technological problems might mean that it, you know, maybe hopefully, it doesn't like spontaneously burst into flames ain't point. But yeah, I kind of still interested in that less. So in the battery case, I don't tend to travel that much or really have a need for battery case. And when I do I have just external battery packs that into that's fine. I don't I don't need a case to go all day for my phone. So I am I am interested. I'm big on charging. I think the air power could be a cool product even though it will invariably get lambasted for being late into expensive. I agree with you. I really want a wireless sugar. We finally have two phones in our home that can benefit from wireless charging. So having Matt's around the house, or you could just sort of drop a phone seems like a pretty cool thing. And I to worry about the prices. I don't think a charge an air power would be the sort of thing. I would go and get on the first day let the reviewers Akkad and find out whether it person to flames or whatever. But but there's a very good chance. I would would get one cases because I carry my phone indicates, which is also a problem for wireless charging in some cases. I'm not in the market for a battery case, I was I have a mo- fy last. I think it might have been my iphone six s and I enjoyed it. But I am a big fan of wallet cases. And that's not compatible with battery packs, but bring on all the wiring wireless charging options from apple please really awaiting the airpower device because I do think it's cool. It will be able to have a place to sit down three different things and just have them charge. Whether that actually ends up happening who knows but that would be super cool to have. As far as the battery cases go I find it fascinating that they've made them for all of the devices. The iphones that they have available right now. They're plenty of people who have to go long periods of time without being able to connect in charge. And so I think this is a great option for them me most of the time working from home. I have a place where I can charge devices and right now my phone is sitting on a charging pad as well angled. Yes, that's my desk. And I think that for me, it's not such a big deal. But for the folks who do need that extra juice with the playing Pokemon go, or they I don't know talk on the phone a lot or watch net flicks. When they should be entering data into spreadsheets. Who knows then they've got that extra juice to get them through the day. And I think that's great. Any last thoughts on that issue? Yeah. So when wireless charging I came out, I hedge my bets because I didn't think the air power would be right around the corner, and I thought might take a little bit. So I bought like really cheap charters that aren't very powerful. They don't do the fast charging at some point five the lower wanted a couple of those waiting around for the air power. And that enables kinda my fantasy solution in which I when traveling to WWE that like all these things the plug in a template one man charge all things. And then I would initially appre became her on that battery pack ace, it's ugly. But the utility of being able to go like all WC in story about battery be awesome. So wrote my phone in that bad. Boy, slab it on the charter that the case is she also so yeah, I'm actually still in fort too. But I it's a lot longer than I expected. So. Yeah, the downside with those cases. Always for me is eventually, you know, you gotta get new phone. 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Our thanks to express VPN for their support of clockwise and all of relay FM. All right bonus topic time, you know, let's go general this week. What is your favorite animal doesn't have to be specific animal or even a domestic wonder heck doesn't even have to be a real one. Shelly. I love Tigers. It's a combination of. Duty and strengthened fierceness that I love, and I also have a friend who runs a pub called the Tigris pub. So all the symbolism is right there for Niger's. I have reparations I need to make for a long time. I have I have said some very mean things about koalas. You're on record. It's a matter of does I on record as being pretty horrible to koalas because a long time ago. I was talking to friend of the show Russell Avik and he lives in Australia, and he sent me a video of a koala making a growling sound. And if you've ever heard a koala growl, it is terrifying. And it is not what you'd expect a koala to make and it really freaked me out, and then he proceeded to tell me about some of the things that happen to koalas. And so for the longest time it has to do with how they are susceptible to STD's, and they spread them to other koalas and for the long long time. I had this like really low opinion of koalas until I learned it was actually my partner who taught me that koalas are prone to Clemencia and. And our like dying out because of deforestation caused by humans, which is caused them to only be able to mate with each other in very small areas, which is causing variance, which means that they can only eat eucalyptus in certain places, it's really horrible out there to be a koala, and it's all our fault. And then I'm being mean to them, it's horrible. So I feel like it's it's required. That I say my favorite animal is a koala in my heart. It's dog, but for the purpose of recreations. It's a cool. You know, what you're not gonna like it when I tell you about drop bears mica. Oh god. Those are real don't believe in are are they? Stay woke so. Yes, koala is my answer issue. What's your favorite edible? Most recently the otter often just adorable. They love him. They are adorable. That's my fiance's favorite. I when I was a kid I really loved cheetahs just because they can run so fast. But as an adult I have to admit a certain fondness for the red panda, which is Jenny generally adorable and just such a playful skimp of a creature. I ever I'm sad though. Because like when my fiance used to live in Washington DC, we go to national zoo every once in a while and invariably the red pandas were like not out at the time. We were there we go to the closure. It'd be like peeking all around like pin? Aren't it was very sad. So I need to I still I'm not sure I think I've seen them at some point in the past. But it's been years. I feel like I'm down on my fix. So I don't think our favorite animals can be in the room together saying. Yeah. I'm not an animal Logist. So I don't know for sure. That's a word, right? Job. I could have okay. All right. We have reached the end hard as it is to believe of this episode of clockwise all that remains is for us to think are fantastic guests. Shelly Brisbane host of parallel. Thank you so much being here. It was a pleasure. Thank you. And is Shabazz. Thank you so much for joining us to defend tastic job today. A lot of fun and mica. We've reached the end of another show. I don't know how you feel about that. I feel good. I'm taking the talk. I'm walking the walk and somehow fitting in some gum, man. All right. Okay. I got I got to bring up my game. That's what I'm learning here. Well, until next time we will remind all of you listening out there watch what you say and keep watching the clock by everybody.

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Clockwise 283: How This "Unfolds"

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Clockwise 283: How This "Unfolds"

"It's time for a tutor Eighty-three of the clockwise Bod gas from relay FM recorded Wednesday, February twenty seventh two thousand nineteen clockwise four people four tech topics thirty minutes. Welcome back. Clockwise tech podcast where we'll be back in time for supper. I'm your co host Dan Moore and across the internet for me sitting in for Mike sergeant who's on assignment. It is my old friend podcast compatriot, Mr. Jason's now. Welcome back to clockwise Jason's Now, Dan it's going to be back on clockwise things. Look pretty good around here. You haven't trashed the place. I appreciate it. Now, we've swept we make sure that the the clock keeps running. That's good. That's that is the most important thing the clock. You got wind it every week. That's what you told me. I assumed you weren't lying. Well, this is of course, the technology podcast where we talk about four topics with two fantastic guests to my left this week. It is a freelance writer and the host of the material gas right here on FM as well as the Android show. It's Florence I on backflow and to my left. It is one of our old colleagues from ID g I worked with her MAC user and MacWorld, and she is the author of take control of Siri is that's what it's called. Call. That's it out this week. It's out this week is timely book promotion, and we might mention Syria later knows. It's probably true. Probably. All right. We'll kick things off. I've been up to my elbows in my MAC mini this week trying to fix a drive problem. Banging my head against the floor as I keep running into new problems. So my question for you folks, is do you try to repair any of your hardware these days, or or you more of a just throw it out getting new one person or other certain types of hardware that you're willing to take a crack at and others. You're just like now it's just easier to replace flow. How do you deal with your hardware problems? If it's my PC, I'm gonna go to still try to go to fries and buy parts. I try not to try not to go online. I, you know, because I like the experience of having you know, a Saturday and going to the store with my husband, we pick out hardback to fix it becomes a project. And it's nice because it reminds me it just reminds me of being a young board teenager in the suburbs. Trying to build a so for that. Yes. I do. To try and work on my own PC's. But when it comes to things like phones of which you know, I have many of many phones and not things in the house. Those are not exactly things that I can kind of go out and buy part four, and they're not user serviceable, really. Pretty think about it. It's manufactured wants you to send them back to them. If you had a problem. So I feel like with the way that technology is moving I'm less and less inclined to fix things because they just don't seem very fixable. Yeah. I I agree that there are certain class products that just are not fixable. But you'd be surprised what is fixable and that the internet has made more fixable. So I don't know if they can't is as tech products. But they're definitely hardware. I have in the last couple of years fixed. My washing machine twice fixed. My dishwasher. In places where would previously have had to call somebody. In fact, we tried to call somebody to repair them and could not find somebody willing to repair our brand of washing machine anywhere near us. And I finally decided okay, I will go on YouTube. I will learn how to fix it. I will order the replacement parts if necessary from the internet because you can do that. Now, there are amazing YouTube videos out there, and I have successfully repaired multiple appliances in our house. Also, my weather station that I've had for fifteen years just the rain sensor on a died, and I was really bummed out. Well, it's reached the end I'm going to have to going to have to get a new weather station. But it served me. Well, and then I realized you know, I bet you I could just get a replacement rain sensor for it. Even though it's a fifteen year old device. I bet they're available on the internet. And sure enough there was a whole rain housing replacement that I was able to get for like forty bucks, I replaced it yesterday and now works again. So instead of getting rid of that that thing that's lasted outside for fifteen years. I'm gonna just keep on I'm gonna keep on using it because it still working so. If I can repair it. I love it. I know that our little tiny devices aren't repairable anymore. But you'd be surprised at what stuff you can repair yourself. If you give it a shot and YouTube videos can help a lot. I would say that our household things don't actually break that much. I don't find like I used to that my computer's rate what they do is they get too slow. So we have a a reuse hierarchy in our house. And that is when a computer starts get to slow. It moves down to test computer status. And when it's too old to run new enough software to test, computer. It goes down to kids status. And then when it gets too slow for the games that my teenager wants to to run it goes down to the Littler kids games. So that's pretty much. How things cohere is. They just keep getting punched down to whoever has the least need for fast, computer. I actually have always thought of cellphones is being disposable until the iphone battery replacement came along. And I had an iphone six that. I did get a, you know, the inexpensive battery replacement that apple offered, and I was kind of a mazed that made such a big difference. I kept that phone happily after that battery replacement on until actually last month. So that kind of changed my mind about how how much the battery makes a difference for how frustrating our cell phones can be. But in general, I don't really find that things break that much. And usually I find that we can squeeze a lot of use out of them. If we just three think what they're going to be used for don't have anybody trickle down this many to in it. It's it's frustrating because it's in really good shape, otherwise, and it's perfectly competent for all the things I need it for. But unfortunately, all those tests. To require a hard drive. So I'm still gonna need to fix it at some point. But I've gotten so frustrated my temptation is to just like Chuck it and buy a new one, and I'm like, no restrain that I know you want the new shiny thing. But this thing is fine. You just need to get it working again. So I like flow. I mean, I really enjoy taking round with the insides of PC's and stuff like that. I think it's. I was never want to work on cars, for example. But I feel like it's very similar to the way that some people really enjoy tinkering on old cars where you could actually do that. And I don't really spend as much time trying that with with newer devices. Although it's very funny. A couple friends came to me recently with problems with my phone's go this charging problem as have you tried cleaning out the lightning port, and they're like, oh, you can do that. Yeah. Here. God it works so much better now. So yes, sometimes that is a first impulse not a bad idea. All right frightening what you can pull out. I don't like a rabbits, but comes out a rabbit's foot out of your. But that is serious problem. All right. Thank you all for your thoughts on that. Let us move to our second topic which comes from flow. Okay. So we've all been following maybe possibly award congress this week one little fad that seems to be taking over the globe is the multiple ends thing for those who are paying attention to the Samsung event last week Samsung announced not one not two but three cameras on the back of its galaxy. S ten have a regular lens a wide angle lens in a super zoom. Of course, they're not the only brand that's doing that. I mean Nokia announced a pure view Nokia nine pure view, which has five rear cameras. Also LG has three cameras on the back of phone that they just an ounce. So there's there's just roll out of multiple cameras everywhere. So made me think how does everybody feel about this sort of thing because I am a primarily pixel three user? And you know, I'm surrounded by a lot of phone using folks. And for us those of us in that camp, we have phones that do a lot of competition for Tigra fee that are doing a lot of the hard work in the software side instead of relying on those extra lenses. So I'm wondering how does everybody feel about the idea? Like is this just a gimmick? Putting all of these lenses in a smartphone. Or do you feel like that something that you would benefit from having the phone beathy camera that ios have on you? I personally, I'm not really using them. But everybody else how do you feel? I I I'd like to welcome everybody to the clockwise podcast congress, which is the. Decided that sorry, Dan stuck with an era. Right. Because it just like we come together, and it's a congress. So why would it not be that the name? It's totally logical. And it gives us a European flair. Anyway, actually, I don't care how many cameras are on the back of my phone. I really care about the pictures. I get out of it and what I can do with it. And I I think the problem with the we're adding cameras to the back of our phones thing is that it becomes like a mega pixel race where the number of cameras, maybe matters more than what you get out of it. And that's silly, right? Like if you add cameras, and and the reviews come out, and they say, this doesn't do anything. Why is this even there than that? Silly. That said I know that there's definitely been a lot of research into there's computational photography stuff that involves taking things for multiple lenses or having a couple since the phones are so skinny having a purpose built for different tasks and intelligently switching among them. Maybe that's use for there. But I would I would be fine. If there was like a bug eye on the back of my. Phone that was that was like eighty lenses, and and a bunch of different sensors, and and you know, it might look weird or might even be invisible. But in the end, it doesn't really matter. What matters is can I take the picture I want whether it's a why Ankara or a close in resume or whatever. And I know that there's a lot of physics issues with the thickness of phone. So I'll take as many cameras as they wanna put back there as long as they're actually being used for something that I that I want to do with my with my phone. I agree. I think the multiple cameras become too many cameras when they make your smartphone cumbersome to use either. While you're shooting or after you've taken the shot. I mean, just there is only a limited amount of space on the back of a phone. So at a certain point where are you going to put your hand if it's completely covered with cameras? But like chasing said it's about what picture you get. So I think the software is what's gonna make the magic here. I really liked the idea that you have a different lens for special uses the optical zoom, the wide angle lens all that. I mean that sounds really cool. But a lot of people aren't gonna spend the time or or just don't have the knowledge to sort through that unless the software is doing it for you intelligently. So. I think that's what's gonna be the proof is how well is that information that the cameras gathering presented to the user. So that they can make something beautiful to paraphrase classic on article. Screw it. We're going to seven Lindsay. And we may very well. Be there soon enough. I think Jason Taylor both right that the software is a big piece of what makes autocracy tick these days, certainly there are things that you can't do easily and software that require those different lenses. Right. Like the telephoto zoom thing you've got a digital zoom. But most cases, you know, it pretty crappy once you get past a certain distance because of velva pixelated. And so it's really so far anyways not going to be a replacement for good optical lens. Similarly, wide stuff like it's harder to do that in software because your lens can only capture so much information. But I think he's got a good point about like exposing that in terms of the UI because you know, you don't wanna have a list just like an endless list of. Here's all the five different cameras that you can choose from in this shot because when you're just trying to take a picture, you don't wanna have to deal with that. So having a system that recognizes what you're trying to shoot and provides you with the best option or takes multiple pictures and let you choose later from the best options are I think? Major major enhancements that you could have. I also particularly like, I think it's the the pixel three that has the white angle front facing Lind's too, right? Which is also a cool idea. I think that you know, as long as we're sticking five cameras on the back with sticks more on the front while we're at it because it's play Rome. Right. I like the implementation on the pixel three because in the front facing camera to use it all you have to zoom out and the view finder versus on a Samsung phone where you have to go into that specific mo-. Jeez that lens. So I absolutely agree. The less cumbersome, we can make it and the more user-friendly the more people will maybe appreciate having that wide angle lens. I mean who doesn't wanna fit more people into a photo unless they're people. You don't like I mean, that's always right? Exactly. All right. That is to topics down to go. Which of course, means it is halftime here at clockwise in. This week's episode is brought to you by our friends at fresh books. Everyone likes to save time. But it's especially important when you're a freelancer, and I can to leave out for that are friends of fresh books can save you up to one hundred ninety two hours with their super simple cloud. Accounting software for freelancers by simplifying tasks like invoicing tracking expenses and getting paid on. Online fresh books drastically, reduce the time it takes for over ten million people to deal with their paperwork fresh books. Automates late payment, Email reminders, you can spend less time chasing payments, more time working your own personal brand of magic when Email client, invoice, fresh books and also show you whether they've seen it which puts an end to the guessing games. 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I mean, when you go watch the video, and they folded out and suddenly this big screen lights up. It is eye-catching. I can't quite see how the wall way that that the screen is always exposed throughout around the outside. I can't see how durable that's gonna be. So that's really the thing that kinda just sticks for me is what I I mean. I don't think I would ever by two thousand six hundred dollar foldable phone. But if I did if I had money to burn I think I would be a little concerned that it would get all scratched up. Like, are you supposed to put in your pocket Blake that the durability was the thing that kind of stuck for me, whereas the galaxy fold where it folds like a book that seemed seemed more logical to me. But that's just from looking at the pretty pictures right about all anybody can do. Agree with Shelly that like on the in the like just sort of initial response. I had was like, oh, yeah. You open it like a book that makes perfect sense. And then having seen both of them in in the pictures. I actually think the made X looks better and more compelling to me there's something about not having to worry about having the tiny little screen on the outside. It's not a tiny screen. But like it looks clunky. That way to me. And I think that the mate X looks much sleeker and much more well-designed, certainly durability. I think is is totally true. That's definitely a concern. I was going to hold up. But I think all these are kind of have to deal with that to a certain extent because we're talking about plastic coverings. Because obviously says somebody's invented flexible glass, we kind of limited in what we can get away with their so the yeah, the X to me looks like a much more interesting implementation. But I'm glad that we've got room for both of them. Because I think this is one of those cases where people are going to try a lot of different types of solutions for these foldable. Screens. I'm looking forward to like, slide sliders, and like all sorts of wacky ideas. And sooner or later, you know, we'll eventually come to a consensus probably on what is the best way to design foldable phones. But right now, the fields kind of wide open, and they all have their their pros in their con-. So we've got to wait till they get out in the real world before we can really decide I think which one is the is the right implementation flow. What do you think do I think? Well, I think we can't even consider the while way device because in America law ways is not. Really allowed here. So we pretty much only have the Samsung device really choose from. But in terms of in terms of implementation, and how sort of drives the tech going forward. I think I think we're going to see a hybrid of these two I think they're both are innovative in their own right? I think that we are going to see a use for foldable screens in the next couple of years. I could see these really I could see these really helping really helping a subset of of users who just really want something that is a two in one because you know, they the can't the can't drop the money on everything. I mean, there's only so much money. People have in this world for tech. And so it'd be nice to see these things actually become affordable the next couple of years. So that person could have a phone tablet, if they wanted to I really I like the way the the wall way works, but I agree. That having the display on the outside is just a little perilous for me as a person. And I like the way the Samsung one folds because it's basically hiding hiding the part that is the most precious, which is the tablet part. And then. It's like a nice little book. And I don't know I'm I'm into it. I know some people think of clunky, but I'm into it. And I'm looking forward to see how this quote unquote unfolds. Boy. Oh, boy, I prefer the way made ten just on the look of it. Because I like the idea that you've I like the way it folds. I like the way it looks. But I will grant you that Samsung is the inventor of this screen technology, basically. And the fact that they're hiding the big foldable screen on the inside suggest to me that they are reluctant to have you stick one of these screens in your pocket where people phone users freaked out about the fact that there's glass on the front and back of the iphone again imagined a whole surface of your phone that's rubbing against dust and sand and stuff. Screen. Yeah. Maybe not. So I think the way may ten is beautiful. And I think in the future the phones will that are foldable. We'll probably look more like it. But if I was buying today, which I'm not in his PLO pointed out, I can't. I would be reluctant to get the made X just because of that. I think it's too early to for anyone to buy any of these. But they're fun to talk about. All right. That's it for me. Shali? Do you have our last topic? I had our last topic in it's about Siri. I was curious. So I just wrote this book about Siri. I was curious. Do you guys use Siri regularly? And if so what are your favorite ways? And if not why not I try I really do. I really want Siri to succeed. I am in favour of Siri. And I just get so frustrated sometimes, and I have a houseful of voice activated devices. I've got echoes. I've got Sonos one. I have some cool homes that are not currently hooked up. But I've used them in the past. And I love the idea of control. I actually think this is a really really important technology in one that has actually changed a lot of the conversation. But Siri is frustrating. I had to turn it off on my home pods because it had too many, false positives. I try to use it on my phone sometimes. And I find that the bounds of what you can. Or can't get it to do are often very frustrating yesterday. I was. Sitting in living room, and I was working on the aforementioned MAC mini. I was like, oh, I wonder if I can just yell at Syrian have playing something on my home pods. And it just started playing it on the little phone speaker. And I was like then I could never get its attention again. And it was like is is such a problem. So really what I end up using it the most for is. Setting timers and getting the weather report occasionally playing music, I do use it a fair amount for playing music triggering on my bluetooth headphones and tell me to play a certain song, but more often than not I ask it to do things in. It has its struggles with. I tell to play a song or something and it misinterprets song as the name of an app, and instead is like you can't open that app until you unlock your iphone. So I like Siri, but I've found it to be on reliable. Sadly, so I don't use Siri because I don't use apple products as as some people out. There may no I have very much Google household. That's what I have outfitted in my house. And so I use the Google system constantly in fact this morning, I use the new there's a new feature which you can use to practice another language. So this morning, I used it to practice my Romanian, which is how I like to start out my workdays to kind of get myself into that mode. I will say just Google assistant. I mean, I I use it for Brandon Blee playing music it plays where I last left off on Spotify. Which is great because if I was in a playlist or on a radio station will stay on that it obviously does have a lot of finicky time. A lot of false positives. And actually, I've taken out a couple of Google homes in my house and consolidated a couple of devices. So I can have fewer microphones, and I actually took it off of my phones. So it's only usable and several rooms of the house, which is like the kitchen the office and the living room, which is honestly, the only places we want it to be used. So that's that's been my life with the goal of sustained. I do want to say though, just as an outsider watching the tech news that I see I see Siri really growing up in the next couple of years, and I see it becoming a real contender because Amazon and Google just been doing so much with their assistance. And I I have a feeling Apple's going to come out of the out of the bushes. Somehow and say, look, we have this special thing you can do. So I'm waiting for that, I'm curious to see what's next apples aren't at Bush's flow there on. That's the thing that I. That's good. I like it. I like the idea apples lurking in a Bush spring, God Syria. I use Siri regularly because I have home pods. So I shouted it to try to play things and sometimes it interprets properly, and sometimes it doesn't I will mention that. I actually use the Amazon voice assistant whose name I shall not utter here. As well because we have an echo in our kitchen, and that is what sinks with our shopping list app. And so for timers in the kitchen and for putting things on the shopping list. We are still using the Masan assistant for lots of reasons, including the fact that if I leave the house with my phone and my phone is the one that's connected to the home pods than the home pod ceases to function as anything, but a music player, basically because it won't attacked to cloud, databases and stuff major drawback. So that's why the Amazon system is still going strong in our house. I don't use Siri anywhere else. Mostly because I find like the mode switch of going from swiping and tapping to or typing to talking is such a hurdle that it's hard for me to get over it. I would much rather wake up my phone tap on something than do the do the call sign and imagine how I'm going to phrase it. So that it's interpreted properly, and it's just it becomes too much for me. So. I don't do that very often. Sometimes I'll do that on my watch. When I'm starting a walk or something like that. But that's about it. So my my seer uses limited in my voice assistant uses limited to basically, the kitchen with the Amazon assistant, we had an Amazon echo in our kitchen. And I think that that was what I really got us interested in how can you use a device in your kitchen, but that all came to an end for us when we went, and we looked on Amazon to see what recordings that had made and discovered just a vast list of conversations of our children talking when they had not purposely triggered the echo. It was really creepy. So we throughout our echo, and I will say that that that is something just to consider with Siri verses other devices that. One of the ways apple has really been distinguishing itself, especially this last year is with its privacy features. And I think when it comes to Siri, that's really shows. I actually have always used Siri in the car. That's where I really used it. I don't have a fancy Kerr with Kerr play. But but I use Siri there. Just to start my clueless. When I was on a long drive. But once I upgraded all my technology to write these books, and once I got home pods. I love the home pot. I really do. And it's become a really indispensable device in the kitchen use it for conversions like always news Siri do conversions for me. But I also love the integration with apple music. Just that. If I hear a song, I can say add this to my body, blah playlist, and it'll automatically add the song to my warm-up playlists that I use the gym or my running playlist, so all that I find really useful. So I would say you should take a look at Syria again now because I feel like a lot of things that were awkward, especially at the beginning of Siri have gotten much more useful, and one of the fun things about writing the book was just being able to see how much love has been poured into Siri Amine. It's just relief funny. And that's what I appreciate most about Syria's. You can feel the presence of the people sitting in the room at apple trying to think of ways that it can be entertaining. And that is just a sign of great technology. It's it's just fun to us. All right. That is four topics time we have just enough time for a bonus topic. But I this week's episode of clockwise is brought to you by our friends at borough. Your home is important, and you want to come home to somewhere that feels comfortable maybe even look stylish, and is designed to fit you borough is rethinking how people shop for and live with their sofa. That's why they let you easily customize high-quality so online and ship it for free in one week, the Barosso adapts your life, it scratches stain resistant to have to worry about spills as a built in USB chargers. You can turn advices, right? From the couch fabric is totally free of harmful chemicals in the frame is made from sustainably, sourced hardwood. 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Flow Roma one hundred percent. I mean, I loved into the spider verse. And I'm glad at one and Oscar, but I think I agree with Flo. Roma's a pretty spectacular piece of work. And if you've got Netflix, you can watch it turn the lights down put down your phones, and it's beautiful. I didn't hear but I did see Spiderman into the spider verse and it was phenomenal. So just for the animation alone. We're gonna even out to for to 'cause I'm getting into the spite of. Versus well. But only. All right. Well, that is our Oscar picks. And that is the end of our show. All the remains to think, our guests flow. I on. Thank you so much for being here much for having me and Shali McFarland. Thank you. Dan. Thank you. Thank you. And thank you all for listening. We remind you till next week watch. What you say and keep watching the clock good-bye everybody by.

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Clockwise 260: I Don't Even Have a Suction Cup

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29:59 min | 2 years ago

Clockwise 260: I Don't Even Have a Suction Cup

"It's time for up. So two hundred sixty of the clockwise podcast from relay FM recorded Wednesday September twenty six two thousand eighteen clockwise four people, four topics, thirty minutes. Welcome back to clockwise the tech podcast that works every time sixty percent of the time. I'm your host Dan Moore, and I'm joined by my fellow host my good friend Mr. Micha sergeant how you doing today. Mike, I am doing well. It's a part of that sixty percent today with working. You're really, you're really phone ended in scaping it in today. Skype it in. All right. Well, this is of course the show where we invite onto fantastic guests to talk about technology to my left. One of my former colleagues at MacWorld and the author of the brand new take control of MAC OS Mojave Shelly mcfarland's here. Hi Shelley at low. Dan. Thanks for being here and to my left is rogue amoeba. I don't know. Maybe you've heard of that application before rogue amoeba. Paul cfasf this. Hello, Paul, Howdy. I dance said you have to excellent guests Shali's here. Who am I replacing. Last minute addition. All right. So I'll kick things off with the first of our four topics. Apples I work sweet continued to become more and more competent over the years. I was particularly impressed to a recent update, two numbers which brought a smart categories feature that's a little table esque. My question is, do you guys rely on I work for your productivity suite needs? Is there some other set of apps that you prefer? Maybe some big behemoth that rhymes with Microsoft? I don't know. But my my question is what what do you use when it comes to your productivity needs? Shali. Well, Microsoft is not my my apps. We'd of choice and neither is pages and the whole. I work sweet. I am a Google docs kind of gal now, and I do pretty much all my work in Koogle docs except for the take control books. We actually right in nicest writer, so that's really out from left field. That's what. We do all the big books in, but I have done page layout in pages and it is. It's pretty good. It often confuses me, but I have managed to do some cookbooks and all sorts of kid kind of things in it. But I would say Google has toppled Microsoft for me, and I work isn't really in the running. It's funny. You know, someone is being very honest, whenever their voice raises about three octaves it's pretty good. I use the, I work sweet for. I don't know everything that is just something I guess that I'm creating locally. I guess the best way to put it. But yeah, everything else I do in in Google docs or rather Google's suite of applications. In fact, we are looking at a Google sheet right now, some of highest. Behind the curtain. There's your peak. I will say though it has certainly become more and more powerful and I appreciate the improvements that continue to be made with it that you know, bring it in line with some of the other applications that are out there. And I think it feels less bloated than the Microsoft suite of products because a just had opened up Microsoft Word on someone's computer the other day, and it took his finally open now. Took forever to load. And once it loaded it had like seventy five tool bars and it looked terrible. Like what? No, this is ridiculous. So I'm very happy that Apple's I work sweet has most of the stuff that I need and I can use Google docs and Google sheets and at cetera for the rest. So I actually, it sounds like I'm a minority. I use Mejia's a little bit for really simple word processing stuff. I use numbers for a decent number of spreadsheets that are fairly simple, but that you know, I do a little bit of math in there a little bit of. Basic spreadsheet work. So I use both of them fairly frequently, but lately I've been stuck using word. I've been getting some legal documents contracts back and forth, and I don't trust track changes across. Between pages and word. So if people don't know, attract changes is basically like someone sends you document. You make some changes. It goes back to them. They can see what the changes were and accept them or just them themselves and legal contract that something that you kick back and forth the half dozen times. I have no idea if pages handles this properly. Someone might well tell me that it does, but I don't trust it. When you know the lawyers are all using word. I just wanna be using the same thing that they are. So for me, it's something that I prefer to use numbers and pages, but every once in a while I get stuck using Microsoft Office. You know, it's funny because nobody mentioned keynote, which is actually, I think the best of the options in apple suites in terms of its competitors. I do think it's it's got a lot more power than PowerPoint and I tend to use it whenever any to your presentation, which isn't very often. I will say I actually do pages a fair amount for anything. Kind of like what Mike was saying. There's something I need to write a quick document locally. I will generally turn to pages, especially. 'cause I know it will sync with my an MAC devices and I'll have access to it everywhere. But the despite beefing up their collaboration features, I think apple still second in the running their to Google numbers actually use a lot. I think it's a really handy spreadsheet thing. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles of excel. So like my fiance who's like into serious business like it does not do it for her serious business. But for me, it gets by for like all my accounting stuff that I do internally. And then I will say it's funny that you mentioned the legal contracts, Paul because I've had very similar experiences using text for book manuscripts. Once again, you don't wanna go cross platform. Like again, I'm with you like pages does have track changes in Ostend can save in and out of dock for for that. Yeah. Yeah, that's just too. It's like a. Why add that one degree of complexity. So I need to keep a copy of word around just for that purpose. But yeah, there's no escaping it, but thanks for your thoughts on that. Let's go to our second topic which comes from Shali. Well, we'll have is out, came out the beginning of this week. And so I was curious to hear what people's favorite feature is or what feature you're most excited to try if you haven't been using the beta already. On Meko. It's so great. It's awesome. It's so wonderful. I have been praying to the apple God's. That's braver n-. Granny Smith, and I don't know, yellow and delicious. Three gone of apple pink lady and Fuji for home on home on MAC, OS and vape provided. Thank you. All of you. I can use the home app to make adjustments to the smart gadgetry that I have throughout my house. I can change accessories between rooms very easily. I really like being able to use a mouse and a keyboard to do those things instead of tapping and waiting and holding and swiping and to, like I said, Siri becomes more useful on MAC OS, which is a weird thing that I never thought I'd say because I can also use her it rather to make adjustments to the different smart stuff that's in my home. So I'm very thrilled about it. It is certainly my face. Feature and use it every day. So I am. We'll get to it in a minute, but I am less than two about the IRS apps on on the MAC, but I'm interested in. I'm always interested in the photos updates that they do. So they're often big updates on Iowa for the photos app, but the MAC up the back photos up tends to get a lot of that functionality as well. And I do a whole lot of dumb photography for myself mostly, but things that I want to create albums or sort or be able to search for things. And so things like it's not new in Mojave, but they've enhanced it the ability to search based on dates types of photos. So if you type in like dog, it'll find dog photos and then you can narrow that down by date or location, things like that. So I'm always, I'm always one of the first things I do is open up photos on the new OS and play around with that. So that's what I'm always looking at for me, it's a lot of the smaller touches in Mojave. So one in particular that stood out for me. Is the improvement in passwords, and basically one time authentication, code integration. So the idea that I can go and not only retrieve my password using cloud, keychain, but key chink in automatic -ly generate strong passwords store them for me and that when I have a count of that security factor indication as on Iowa's twelve, when you like get your SMS texts saying, here's your six digit code to plug in, it's automatically populated as a like a suggestion for filling in that field. So I like that. I think it makes acuity a lot more approachable that does has it hasn't balances there, but I think it potentially can convince his a lot of people to use something like two factor authentication by removing some of the complexity of it. So that and favoured cons tabs. Get that on ten point, twelve or ten point thirteen to that's true. That's true. That's in new safari update, which is an exclusive Ave. Well, I think after looking at all of the operating system for so many months now that in the end, it may not be my favorite feature, but the feature us the most is quick actions. And I, if people listening don't know what those are. Basically, there has always been a feature called services where you can borrow borrow power from another app when you're in a different one and quick actions is kind of like a reimagining of that. And when you're in the finder and you're looking at the preview pane, basically depending on what files you select, you have access to some easy quick actions. So if you select a bunch of photos, you can rotate them all to the left. So if you got photos that came in weird war, if. Hugh select a bunch of PDF's or if you select a bunch of images or images amp Fs, you can create a new PDF out of all of them. But the part that I've been using the most is you can make an automated workflow and save it as quick action. So when I was writing the take control book that I, that I just finished, we do, we put custom borders around all of our images. And in the past, you know, it's taken a few steps to make that happen, but now I can just select everything. You can also access the quick actions through contextual menus. So I just click on them and then boom, I've applied all the borders. It's really cool. And if you're the type of person who's interested all in automation, you can get a lot out of it were if you're someone who's not interested in automation, there's some super useful things you can do that. Take no effort at all. So I think that's been my my favorite one in terms of productivity effort at all is on the model. Chris. And it's just a half drawn sketch. It's not a filter. Not even finish. All right. We're halfway through the show. And of course that means halftime. Here means, let's hear from one of our sponsors into tell you all about it. I'm gonna hand things over to mica. Yeah, because I get to talk about our friends at casper who I adore casper is a company that's focused on sleep and they're dedicated to making you exceptionally comfortable one night at a time. Get this. You spend about a third of your life sleeping. We spent a third of your life doing anything. You'd certainly want to make sure it's the best it can possibly be. And that's where casper comes in to help out because they've got wonderfully comfortable mattresses that offer support in all the right places. So what exactly goes into making a casper mattress. 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But genuinely this mattress is so so so so so comfortable it's practically gotten to the point that like when I have guests in my home, I k do you wanna go lay on my bed really quick. 'cause it's really comfortable. So I'm kind of, yeah, it's a shame anyway. You can go. And get fifty dollars towards select mattresses by visiting casper dot com slash clockwise and using the code clockwise at checkout. Now terms and conditions apply. That's casper dot com slash clockwise and the offer code clockwise. So you can also let strangers lay on your bed. Thanks so much to casper for their support of this show and all of relay FM and hey, look, it's my turn to ask question. So I have been seeing lots of folks talk about car play, talk about Android auto, and now Amazon has come together, created this little Dongola sort of deal that you could put in your car to have a l. e. x. a be a part of your driving experience. So I'm wondering, do you use any of these sort of in-car OS is for navigation and music cetera. And yeah, if you just use the one that comes with your car, that works too. Paul surf you. So I have what I refer to as the. Uber driver setup, which is just a suction Cup, phone mount, and my phone sits. If I'm if I need directions, my phone sits there and I have maps running because my car is fifteen years old and I do not have the option to do carplay or anything else. I find it really interesting that these, that these way, these things work because people upgrade their phone, even if they're not someone who upgrades a lot every I don't know three or four years. People don't generally tend to get a new car that often, and I obviously have not. So I would love to have car play. I know that there are at least a few options for swapping in stereo with carplay supporter with Android auto support. But my car is just too old to do any of this. And so I, like I said, I use a smartphone and that takes care of it for me. But I'm interested. I'm always interested to see this and I wish I could do it. Does that help. Yeah, I'm kind of in a similar situation. Paul, my car is six years old and came in, like, you know, a few years before carplay was really big thing. I know there are some third party head units that you can swap in. Ivan, like went recently went down a rabbit hole finding that there's apparently like just a newer version of the stereo in my car that you can buy on EBay and just swap in with carplay support. And it's a lot easier because it's the same like shape and just a newer model. And so I kind of toyed around with that for a while. But I mean like Paul, I have just sort of dashboard mount where I can put my phone in. And so although it'd be nice, but is it really like nice to the tune of however many hundreds of dollars? It's going to take me not only to buy a new head unit, but to pay people when I invariably screw up installing it. For the moment. I've sort of backed Bernard that and it's fine. I don't love the touchscreen interface in my car. It really knows me. It's my least favorite part of my car, but I'll I've lived with it for six years. I can probably live with it until Sunday. I get new car. I'm sorry, mica. I don't even have a suction Cup. I don't even have bluetooth. I've got a cable that I attach my phone too, and I either have Syria or I have a child to ask directions for. That's about it, but I was so curious to hear what other people were going to say, but I feel a lot better now, actually, maybe I'll go get a suction Cup to keep. It holds it right there. That's pretty good. I can train my dogs to ask for directions. I'm actually in the same camp with all of you folks. So I work from home, which means that I don't drive my car around a whole. And I think that that applies. Actually. So that's why we may have older vehicles and don't really care, too, you know upgrade is that the word that she's. I did however, because I used to drive around a lot more. I did upgrade my in car stereo to one that had bluetooth support. So my stereo in the car does have bluetooth, but I use the the Uber model. I like that. I've got a Vint mount. It's actually a new deal for mo- they've got a wireless charger Vint mount. So I pop that into their charges, and I connect to my stereo over bluetooth and I do that. However, anytime I've rented a vehicle that has most of them have carplay support. It's so nice mostly wish I could have it because it's so nice, but I have not. I don't care enough to buy like what is like four hundred dollar third party car play device that allows me to have car play in my old vehicle and I don't. Need to get a new vehicle at the moment. So yeah, I'm fine with the method that works for me. I thank you all for your answer on that one. And let's go to our last topic which comes from Paul. So we talked briefly about the home up on Mohave. And my question is that now there are few IOS apps that have been ported to the MAC home news stocks. Is this the worst thing ever or is it merely very bad? Is the way I'm phrasing this question. Not not slanting the opinions on this at all, but no, what are what are your? Have you used these apps? I'm sure Shali has Mike obviously has what are your feelings on them and just what's your feedback on seeing these apps so far? It's weird, right? I mean. Evidently. So this is like a proof of concept if feels like more than anything apple demonstrating, look, you can run these apps without alteration, essentially, or very, very little alteration and look. They run guess that's what you can say about them. They run particularly making -at's. Yeah, they do run. They do. They meet that lowest bar. They're not particularly good looking. They're not particularly MAC like, and that's fine. I don't really. I mean, I guess I understand that there's a there is a goal here to sort of simplify having to support to giant platforms, but I don't think most certainly most MAC developers are not going to be taking too much vantage of this. My biggest question is Iowa developers who already maintaining back up. So I'm thinking about stuff like I use the reader, the reader and they have a Mack cap in happened. It's like, well, if it makes it easy life easier for them, will they drop the map and sort of just have the app also run it on the MAC. I don't know their stuff in there that clearly needs. Some work. Some people point out like the the Dayton time take. Yeah, which is uses the IRS functionality which is really suited to a touchscreen, not so much to a mouse and keyboard. Thinking about this from a user point of view. Because I think a lot of users aren't aren't going to be thinking that next step down the road for them. It's just, hey, I've got these new apps on my MAC. It's pretty convenient to be able to have all your data sink to your preferences sinked between the apple apps that have come over. And for me, I actually didn't use a lot of these apps in particular. I'm kind of New York time snob. So that's all that I read. So I'd never had used news which is saying something because I'm kind of news junkie, but I was sort of offended that apple had created that app. So I on principle, not used it, but writing the book I had to learn all about it, and I actually think it's, it's pretty cool. It's nice. I don't really like having to Fultz a lot on my iphone with an with different elements, and it's just a lot easier to look at stuff on your MAC. And I think that works pretty well voice memos. I actually use quite a lot to just get ideas down. So I'm really, really like being able to get that on my MAC. Also, it makes it a lot easier to hold my phone and play hangs while I'm trying to use the ideas and something else. But I thought it was really funny that Mike is so excited about home. That was the one of the apps of out MAC, the apple apps to come over that found to be very buggy. So I'm interested. I'm happy to hear that that's working for you, but that was the one like where I got crashes or like there were things that just didn't work. Like if you wanna pick a background image for room or for for the main landing area that the home tab, you just click and nothing happens. That was the one that I really felt like didn't feel ready for primetime, but I'm glad that it works. If you know if you're someone who's really using the home automation, but in general, I thought that it was it was nice maybe not from like, how's this gonna work for other people who want to bring their apps over to the MAC. But just in terms of a person who's using I o s and the macro us, it's pretty cool to have everything. It's another step in all your apple devices being kind of different aspects of the same experience sheen. Yeah, the same experience. And from that point of view, I think it works really well. So yeah, home on the MAC is is pretty buggy. I just love it too much. It's like when you really you, sometimes you just you really, really love thing. And it might be like like people who are very into cats, cancelled cats clawed your hands, and you're like, oh, look at you. You're so adorable, knowing your finger off and you're like, you're so cute. I love you too. Well, home app could all my finger off and I'd still be happy that it's on the MAC is basically what I'm saying. So I think that you know having these apps on the MAC is great, but again, all that all that really matters for me like all the rest of them could go away and I'd be fine as long as I can continue to control my smart home with my MAC while I don't think we have time. But I'm curious to wonder, Mike, what are you doing with your smart home that you are constantly fiddling. This whole other show to worry about it. So my thought on this is a little broader. You guys all talked about the specific apps and you know the, the apps that they've brought over already are varying levels of quality, but they're all functional, at least. I guess I'm more wondering what will happen in the future. If apple continues to do this with their own apps, allow third party developers to do it, which is what Dan reference. As a MAC user, I want my maps to be MAC apps, and if an app comes to the MAC only because they had an app and they would never have made an app amac up, then that's a bonus. But if suddenly I'm getting Iowa fide apps on my MAC that don't really behave the way that a proper map should and at the cost of having a proper MAC app. I'm certainly going to view that as sort of a step backwards. So I'll be very interested to see what happens in the next one to two years and even longer than that, where if a whole lot of IOS apps come to the MAC, maybe you sort of lose the idea of what a map is or people are so used to. I o s as it has far more users that if they come to the MAC, they'll see these apps and they'll just behave the way they expect them to, but it won't necessarily be behaving the way that they really should according to the interface guidelines and things like that. So it's it's, I don't have an answer for this, but I definitely. Can have a pessimistic view about this or can understand pessimistic view where this potentially harm sort of the MAC app ecosystem and the experience that you get on the MAC. So I guess we'll see what happens there, but I'm hopeful that doesn't happen obviously. All right. Real glass is half empty sentiments end on there. All right. The last of our four topics, which means we have just enough time for a bonus topic. 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Halloween is real big in my neighborhood, and it's almost time for me to start stocking up on candy for it because I got a spread out the purchases to make them the budget. I like fall beverages quite a bit of any all sorts, but I actually just made some mold wine the other day, and I end traduced some family members to it for the first time and they were. Very much enjoying it. So I'm gonna go with voting. Got about five weeks, six weeks to vote. If you are not registered, if you're in the US go to vote dot gov, and you can still get registered in probably every state almost every state. Every election is important. This election is incredibly important. So, yeah, I'm going my fault voting well, gee. Cider, but that sounds kind of pale ales. Voting, enjoy my hot apple cider as I walked to those. How about that? All right. Well, thank you for your thoughts on those fall related things brings us to the end of the show, and all that remains is to thank are fantastic guests this week. 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Clockwise 296: Google Wave Was the Best Thing Ever

Clockwise

29:53 min | 1 year ago

Clockwise 296: Google Wave Was the Best Thing Ever

"It's time for episode two hundred ninety six of the clockwise podcasts from relay FM recorded Wednesday, may twenty ninth two thousand nineteen clockwise four people, four TEK topics thirty minutes. Welcome back to clockwise the tech podcast that talks almost as much as it takes. I am your co host, Mike sergeant, and I'm joined across the internet by my co host, Dan Moore and did you get Dan talks instead of talks? I'm I'm, I'm a little traumatized I have to imagine and I won't go into that much time, but that's because I found a tic on my leg last. No, no. Yes. The flashbacks. I'm so sorry that is Ginny. When someone says, like what's your greatest fear ticks are? I was very creepy that was first time that's ever happened. Super creepy ticks are the worst. But what's not the worst our, our awesome guests. I'm very excited to welcome back the co host of automated right here on relay F M writer of an Omni focus book, and the very cool, Rosemary orchard. Hello, rose. Hello, teacher teacher. Thank you for having me, and I do teach teach for their listeners who missed out on show and to my left left. It is a producer. A host at twit. It is Meghan. Maroney. Welcome back, Megan. Thank you for having me. I I'm almost over the discussion of ticks might take. I'm so sorry. But at least you can all can sell yourself with the fact that it wasn't you. We've got some great topics today in our great guests and you know, we've only got thirty minutes. So we can't talk about ticks, but let's talk about dark mode. Dark mode is pretty much deaf. Oh coming to. I o s I'm curious. What's the I, I, I part or third party app that you are looking forward to seeing in dark mode rose. We'll start with you. Well, a lot of the app said, I used AJ already have dark note, because they are third party applications and they figured out years ago. If you look at the brightness of your screen, the figure out that maybe people don't want their retinas Behrendt. So I want to see safari as physically what that feature that it doesn't the desktop where it can tell the website that you're in dark mode as well. So that the websites that support it can then be dark mode. So then I can read things like next in duck mode without having to manually tap that, but because it's so much work. Man. There's a lot of good options. I think calendar is one of my top ones. I like calendar dark mode on the MAC just because I enjoy all the colors and against the dark background. So that, that always makes me feel a little bit more evil about by calendar. I'll go with evil about my calendar. But yeah, the, the other one, I would throw out there just because I did see some of the screen shots that were purportedly of this Iowa stark mode included music, I think music is another one that I would like to because it's very glaring white right now. There's a lot of bright interface in that. And I think it could use to be tamp down a little bit music, was my also my, my request because I feel like it's, you know, feel like I'm up in the club. Yup. Music when in actuality, I'm in my pajamas, and probably folding laundry, but yeah, so I think music, although I don't really understand the craze of dark mode. I get that. It's better for my eyes. So I think yeah, I'm just I'm going to try everything. I'm going to everything dark mode, especially music. I would also like to see home app go dark. I'm in the home app frequently and a lot at night, when you know during the day, it's easy to go around and flip switches, but at night, you know, you're in bed, and you don't wanna have to climb out a bed like an animal opened up the home app. And suddenly, it's blasting like you said, you retinas with that bright, white light, and it's not fun. So I am looking forward to seeing that go dark. So thank you all for your answers on that. Let's go to our next topic, which comes from rose. Well, last time I was on clockwise. We talked about rumors and the fact that there might be a new I touch last. Time there was no touch. But yesterday, we got one and so I was wondering, are you actually excited about this? New I Pol touch who do you think it's four? Are you going to get when yourself and is it good that we've got it back for about a word because it never really went away? But it definitely hasn't been updated in quite some time. I wouldn't say I'm particularly excited, I've never owned, and I touch, and I don't think I'm probably about to start now, mainly because I have always had an iphone and for media touch seemed redundant mostly to that. I think it's probably smart for eople the habit positioned in its lineup. It does make sense in terms of in terms of not only a lot of people talk about is device to give the kids, though. I also note, lots of people who go of the ipad out there, especially since the ipad mini has been recently revamped as well. I hear a lot of stories about getting used in like, in work settings like point of sale or warehouse into Tori management. Right. I know one person who will be glad. About this is one of my cousins is a elementary school library, in, and she used to distribute ipod touches to her kids for, for making projects like video projects or multi media projects or stuff like that, because they were fairly affordable. They didn't need to be super high powered, and they were easy to for the kids to work with. So I think there are a lot of options and it's good that they're back in the lineup but it's never going to be the big seller. The iphone is it's kinda just there to stake out that that price point, and that, that little niche market. I think, yeah, I asked the same question on Iowa yesterday and on Twitter. And I did get some answers, but the answer that I'm not happy as the one with is the one that people mostly say it's oh, well, you'll get it for kids, because you don't want to get your kids a phone yet, which doesn't make any sense. I have three teenagers. And so back when they were, you know, a lot of their friends got IPO pod. Touches when they were eleven or twelve or thirteen before they got phones. But now all those ages of kids are getting phones and what I would like to see more of his the reuse of devices. So instead of saying, oh, I'm going to buy this, this, this brand new device, that has all brand new materials, and I'd like to see what, why don't you just use a hand me down iphone? And I said that on Twitter. And a lot of people said a lot of people don't have access to the hand-me-down iphones. But I mean, there's places like where you can buy them gazelle places like that. And it made me ponder the fact that now every time you upgrade with apple, they're always asking you to turn in your old device, which seems I guess it can be good. If the device were just otherwise staying someone's drawer. But I like the idea of being able to continue to use a phone once, you know, you upgrading so I don't I also, I guess, people have been using it went they'll be using it for testing to. But i'm. Little confounded by this device in I'm excited to hear more stories like yours Dan that, like a librarian would be handing them out to kids. I love that idea with Megan on this. I don't have a place for it. And most of the folks, that, I know that sort of aren't, you know, paying attention detect day today don't have a place for it. Really? But I guess I can remember when I first went to college. For some reason they suggested an I pod touch for I honestly do not remember what it was at the time. But there's some reason that they suggested an ipod touch, and I used it for a little while and then I kind of fell out of use of it as the iphone continued to be my main device, and now it is fully and completely with the large screen and everything. But I'm sure that yeah. There are folks out there who are connected to wifi enough, or like you said, it makes sense, I think, in schools where you've got kids around router essentially are able to use this device to take video and create little projects and things like that. And certainly point of sale is interesting, but I dunno on the consumer side, it will be interesting to see how the skits used rose any last thoughts on that. Yeah. Have to say very much agree with all of you. The thing that the idea that inspired this topic was actually Christina worm posting on Twitter, if there was an e sim ipod touch she would totally have one as a travel phone, and I actually really like that idea. But at the same time I already have a Jill sim phone that I purchase from Hong Kong. So I would have to some cards in it. So I can work my way around that it's blow these things, I do think that a lotta people go. Oh, yeah. You could buy it for kids instead of an eye. And I had one instead of an iphone for a while the very first I touch, and I had some cheap touch screen thing that wasn't even running Android. At the time was absolutely terrible. And then I said that actually I should just know us to devices get my phone because it's better. But I do have one for two uses an ipod touch all the time he doesn't own an iphone doesn't own phone, any just has what these data richer's he takes everywhere end is I disconnected to that. All right, folks. Well, we have reached halftime and I'm excited to tell you about our Powell's Paulo who've brought you this episode of clockwise Apollo is a third party Iowa. Sap for Reddit. 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Obviously, this is a response to some controversy. This come up recently about Apple's domination of the market, including supreme court case that gave basically a path for people to sue apple some stuff from the EU Spotify getting involved. So my question for you is, are you convinced by Apple's arguments on its page, the app store is sort of ripe for anti competitive shakedown, or is this all just sort of a not that tempest in a teapot, situation? Megan. This one. I got an a big argument with Leo LaPorte my co-host. Iowa's today last week. And basically, he told me that if I don't like the app store policies than I should get an Android phone. He was playing devil's advocate a little bit. And it was it was a friendly argument, but I don't have a solution to the problem of all of the good things that the abbot has like keep us secure and they have standards. And I think they generally do do a good job at what they do, but it is getting so big and I just don't understand how it could possibly be manageable. And there are stories on both sides like the, the one story about the parental control app that they kicked out. And everyone said, well, they're kicking that out because they have the screen time app and they don't want to compete with that. But I tried those apps, and they are not good like screen time is definitely a better app, and I don't think that they were sitting there, waking up in the morning, nap store saying what can we kick out of the app store that we have? Now, I just don't. I think that that's not the way that they operate. But it is. Difficult. And I it makes me very uncomfortable that there's this board of standards of what can stay in and what can not stay in the app, and we don't know who those people are that make those choices necessarily. I mean this, this page is a very good explainer so far. It's really the, the only explainer they have about, what's gone on the app store, but it still makes me a little bit nervous that they get to decide what, what apps with guns in them. Go in there. What ups with when is it? Okay. And what is not okay to use like a swastika like those kinds of choices are being made by some body. And we don't really know who those people are consistency is sometimes criticized for different apps, get different sorts of rulings, and you can kind of throw what you what has for the. Longest time been accepted in to the app store and then get a rejection suddenly because maybe a different person looked at it and found something that they feel goes against the rules that they have. And so, yeah, that sort of inability to find a consistent experience and be able to trust that what you're creating works, and is accepted does cause a bit of an issue, and particularly when it comes to some of the rules that apple itself will break, and in promoting its own apps or promoting its own new services and things like that. And then not allowing third parties to do those same things. It gets a little bit. Shady gets a little bit dark mode. And so, because of that. I, I don't I don't think it's entirely anti-compact. Additive not ready to put that stamp on it. But I do think that there's work to be done and that. We can't just say, oh, none of these criticisms are worthy or worthwhile or have kind of a pedestal to stand on because I think a lot of the criticisms do rose. What are your thoughts? My thoughts. Are this is a very complicated topic, which is not really surprise. I the the way that I've really been looking at this. I've been looking at Iowa versus MAC OS. You know what is the difference between the two? And of course, MAC OS you can install applications from outside the MEK ups store and also the other thing, and I think this is actually the big one is being able to set default applications. So you set your default Brasi you set your default mail client your calendar. And I honestly think if this gets added then a lot of the anticompetitive arguments, perhaps, will go away, because the biggest problem is, is, I can install spark, or air airmail, or whatever mail Clint, I one. But if I tap on an Email addresses, going to open mail, and for most people, I think that that's what they really see anticompetitive, and of course. As you pointed out their problems with approve you and things like that. You know something that gets reviewed today, make it rejected tomorrow. Ovalles. Just because it ends up all the different peasants desk in that presents had the right amount of caffeine and chocolate for breakfast. All they haven't had any for breakfast, either in a horrible mood. And I do think that, that is a bit of a problem that apple off acing. But at the same time from what I've had from various developers when they've reached out to. Preview. Sometimes they have we issues. But most of the time they've been getting good feedback from the app store and everybody that charring to salty things out. And they've been working on getting those conflicting guidelines gone as well because there have been some cases, where guidelines of said, do this, and then the rules said, do not do this tool. And of course, then there's apple also breaking the rules, using notifications to appetites, apple music, for example, which I think they need to have a look at themselves, and go. Why are we breaking our Imbros? I've everybody can break them. Nobody can break them. And I think that's the line they have to drill for themselves as you've opening up is a very complex issue. And I think one thing that we can agree on its as Rosset. We shall have chocolate for breakfast, and that will solve all our problems. I think. Yeah, they're both good size and bad sites this, and they're always have been the app store. I think it's undeniable that the review process has gotten better than it used to be. It's still far from perfect, but it has made a trend. I think in the in terms of improvement, I think that the app store model in terms of what it does for keeping say Mel, where off the platform and enforcing a certain degree of tone like it's their store, and ultimately, they can decide what to carry into in it. And if you want to go to another store in shop, there that is an option. You can get an Android phone that said, you know, it does mean that they can't be necessarily totally capricious or whimsical about the way they enforce rules is to the point that rose just made a need to adhere to them themselves, and not give themselves a leg up, and I think that's one place where you brought up default apps again. And that, that is a huge part of that. I don't think it's the only but I would definitely go a long way to the concerns. I think the other issue. Is this idea of thirty percent cut and the sometimes bizarre, and Byzantine rules as to why certain things fall under that certain things don't physical goods? For example, you can buy without any sort of cut, and apples pays lease out all these different things, but it actually ends up, making it look more complicated instead of less complicated. So I think that's something that needs to address. I think part of that might be lowering that, that cut eventually because seemed like in the early days of the app store. Thirty percent was not unreasonable in terms of how they were getting things up and running, and, and basically providing this marketplace, but I feel like over time even though you could argue the volume of absence increased, you could also argue they're a lot, better running the store than they were then and maybe they don't need the thirty percent. Then, again, telling a company that they don't profit is probably not an argument, that's gonna hold anyways. We could debate this topic endlessly. But we do not have time. Thank you. All. Much for your perspective on that one. And let's go to our last topic, which comes from this article by Martin Bryant in the next web, it was basically talking about how it's been a decade since Google wave. If you remember that product, but it was just this random thing that no one really understood. And then it quickly went away as almost as quickly as it came like a wave. And that the piece was really about how are blind enthusiasm for tech is gone that every time we see something amazing or maybe innovative, the first thing, we do is question how it's going to add to the robot apocalypse or something like that. So I wondered what you all thought, do you miss those days of just never questioning a new technology and just being super excited about it. I think it's responsible to do that. I definitely understand that, that argument that observation. And there are times when something new comes out, and I think an example of that would have been. Oh, golly, it was the one everybody was of taking photos of themselves as you know how they are now. And then it was some apt that like change your face so that you looked older and major look younger and then folks were saying, well, now, those are out there and there's going to be an algorithm. That's going to determine how old you are. And so the no always be track. You I do think it's important that those considerations are being made and that were being more aware of it because for too long, we've not thought about those things except for very particular people. And, and it's good that. We are becoming more technology, literate and all of that encompasses is important. And so the fact that folks are thinking of that invokes are reading about that. And folks are considering that is important. It's fun to have fun and be excited about new things and I find that I am still able to get excited about new things. But then to later have those things, I'm excited about sort of critique to end and discussed. I find it's an important skill that I think people need to learn and that we can all be more aware of how these devices can be used negatively to sort of scoop up more data about us or or what have you. So I guess we're too cynical, but I think that's a good thing, rose. What are your thoughts? Well, I agree that specifically, there are some people out there and I'm not gonna name names because eight berries for every new product. That comes out there will be people who just seem to take a mindset that this is a bad thing, and they break it down, and they go from wides thing to why it's really bad thing to why it's terribly bad thing. And I have to say, sometimes you just have to look at it. And just look for the positives to start with, because if we look at everything in life negativity, we're going to have a horrible time, though. We plenty of things that come out to WDC next week, where people criticize it and say, why don't we have this, or this is pathetic something, but there's so much good that comes with this as well, because I mean, as you said, we now have an increased awareness of how things can be used my grandmother called media the day because you clicked on the Lincoln nemo, and it took her to a website that looked very dodgy as it is, she's only got an Pat, so she didn't get a virus, she's absolutely fine. But you she's aware of that. And if somebody like my grandmother can be aware of this, maybe we should take step back and think, okay? Well, if we've managed to educate people over the age of eighty and kids figuring this stuff out that maybe we should go back to looking at the positives. But remember, of course, there, there are negatives to these things, as well, these apps show, you how you might look in ten years, and then the one the next day that comes around and says, what did you like? Ten date ten years ago. What is this being used full? I it's, it's probably with having a healthy amount of skepticism with certain things, but look at the positives active zest. I don't think it's even so much about just the positive negatives just about is it is about burnout, right? Like there's such a huge road of apps and technologies and services that have been coming out in this era, because we are just in this period of intense and, and just huge volumes of innovation and new ideas that are enabled by all this technology have, and it's understandable that we'd all get a little blase about it. I think after a while, if not actively sort of burned out, especially for those of us who covered tech, like it's hard not to be like, oh, another service that does X you know, great whatever it's been done before. Right. And I think that's not surprising because we are just we have been so inundated. And I think you know, you look at other other technologies and other. Things that have been these huge waves. And after a while they start to get just a little bit cars, for example. Like, yes, there certainly innovation less than less left in the car market. But there's a lot more people being like it's a car, you know, that's fine. But I'm not going to get super excited about it. I think that there's just there's so many of the, the needs have been filled, like, when I think about apps and like, oh, I should go check new apps and stuff. I think what do I need in my life? Like, what are my apps in my technology's not accomplishing me that I need to go in search out and find other things. And the answer is not that much currently that's just feel like there is kind of an app for every need. So I do feel less excited about things that come out, and I missed that a little bit. But I don't think it's you know, there's a switch to flip and to go back to those, those heady days of wild innovation, and everything was cool an awesome all the time. So although I will admit that because I saw this article started with talking about Google. Wave about ten years ago. My fiancee insisted Google way, was still the best thing ever. And she is really sad about. Just one last thought on that is that I, I worry that we worry about the wrong things that we go so far to like robots are taking all of our jobs. And we don't necessarily worry about the things that are more concerning and just to sample that quickly is Mike, is that that app. That would make you look older. The first thing I thought about that was that app or one of those apps also look whiter, and that was like the issue with it. That was more concerning to me. It was like, here's this, you know, the, the beauty filter, whatever, whitened everyone. And so, like, I think sometimes we ignore the things that are more concerning for this dystopia future that may or may not arrive. I think that's really well. Put in really. We'll observed folks, we are just about at the end of this episode, but we've got gist and if time for bonus topic my question for all of you, if you were kitchen. Utensil. Which would you be rose will start with you f frying pan because then I would have got to go around tangles with many more which would have just been also that. I'm going to go with the, the old trustee the wooden spoon. It's versatile. It does a lot of different things. But you don't you don't think about it that much, but it's their chugging away in the background. It's always ready for you just under appreciated sport. I was going to say I like it. I like him. I like it. I going to go with it. Go with eggs, separator. Kind of one of those odd bowl deals. But when you use it, it makes you happy because it's one of the easiest ways to separate the yoke from the rest of it. So a separator. Thank you all for your answers on that, folks. We have now reached the end of an episode another episode of clockwise. All this left is to think our awesome guests, Rosemary orchard teacher teacher. Thank you so much for being here with us this week, Hanky said much having me. It was great fun as mega Maroney, thank you so much for being here. Thank you for having me. I'm always available. Spoke, Dan like a wooden spoon. It's time to stir up the end of this episode. Yeah. I'll go with that. That's great until next time where we tell you all what kitchen utensils you are. Remind you watch what you say and keep watching the clock. Hi everyone.

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Clockwise 348: Save Me From My Shame

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Clockwise 348: Save Me From My Shame

"It's time for episode. Three hundred and forty eight of clockwise. Podcast from relay. Fm recorded Wednesday may twenty seventh two thousand twenty walk wise four people or tech topics. Thirty minutes walk clockwise. The time obsessed tech podcast that's ambivalent about herbs. I am Mica surgeon today. I'm joined across the Internet by my pal my dungeon buddy and my co host. I already said that far. It's Dan Moore and Dan. I knew an Arab once. He was all right. Yes Herb Weisbaum Hausky. I am pleased to say that we are also joined by two awesome guests and to my left is the F. X. Artists and of course podcast or over on the incomparable with do focused and a few other shows. You may have heard about it. Is Joe Rosen? Steel Mica and two mile left this week. It is a veteran producer. The Texas standard a writer about all sorts of things including tech classic film accessibility is and the host of several. Podcast include parallel right here on. Am and Lions Towers. Shields over the incomparable. It's Shelley Brisbane. Welcome back Shelly. Hello Dan you can take a breath. Now it's the allergies to the as. I'm going to need a couple of minutes to route to recover here Michael. Why don't you take it from here? I will gladly do that. Yeah so I've noticed and maybe you have had the same situation but certainly for me. Sleep has been difficult as of late If I do fall asleep I find myself waking up in a bit of a panic. Thirty to forty five minutes after falling asleep and kind of just rinse repeat all night so I was just curious. Do you use or have you used any tack to help you with your sleep. Enough be sleep tracking or meditation APPs. Or what have you Joe will start with you No other than the sometimes. I'll use the the bedtime feature in the clock and set a bedtime reminder and a wake-up time for gentle chimes to occur and as far as any other technology I don't know if Melatonin counters technology but Sometimes I'll take it a tiny one milligram dose of that. I can't sleep But that's that's about it for me. So you're not using Borg Nanno probes. No no interesting Yeah I don't tend to do much with tech. I mean I have sort of like my wind down routine which involves generally you know switching to my kindle to read a book before bed but I confess that I sometimes you go back and check my phone. Still which is not great My wife listens to podcast fall asleep. I hope they're not mine although I wouldn't blame her and other than that. I don't really think I do much heck wise with sleep unless you count the brick that I keep next to me to knock myself out when I wake up again in the middle of the night. It's the height of technology. I sleep tracking those things where I don't a lot of people talked about that for the watch and frankly I just don't like wearing my watch. I sleep so I think that's kind of a nonstarter for me but I'm interested to see what other solutions might be hit upon for technology because I'm always interested in getting more better sleep. I know how important that is. I know how much mica is into good sleep and I support that. I wore a fitbit for about year and a half and I used to sleep tracking and I realized that what I was doing with it was comparing what the tech said the numbers with how I actually felt about my sleep after I woke up and that was kind of interesting to me because I would say oh I had a real nice night's sleep but the number said while you were tossing and turning or you had you were in rem sleep for this period of time and I don't know that I was able to do anything with that information but I found it interesting and the only reason I quit was because I got an Apple Watch so yes if they brought sleep tech to the watch I would certainly use it These days I I listen to podcast. The Fall Asleep Not Yours Dan Actually the thing that puts me to sleep audiobooks because more so than podcasts. That tone is consistent. It's usually one person speaking so if I really WanNa go to sleep. I'll put on a very familiar audio book and Melatonin. Yes that too I love that you said that Shelly. I pretty much every night. Fall Asleep to audio books. I have a device call. I think it's called beauty rest And it is. It's a sleep tracking system that you put between your box springs in your mattress and it will Check your your sleep in your heart in your respite respiration while you are asleep and give you a score in the the next day and sometimes I'll look at that and sometimes I won't depending on where I I am mentally. There's quite a bit of tech but I think more than anything else I find that the the books are the things that helped me fall asleep and then occasionally when I'm in a bit of an emergency I will take some Z. Qual To help me fall asleep. Which is essentially just an antihistamine. All right folks. Let's move on to our next topic. Which comes from Joe? Speaking of things that you really excited. Hbo Max Launched Today. Do you know what HBO Maxes? Do you know if you get. Hbo From a because you have a previous HBO subscription. Do you have too much going on to even bother looking into it. Hbo Max wasn't that like a futuristic Sitcom or TV show from like the eighties. I don't I know I I do know Max is but only because I read several articles about it and in fact. I was curious and thinking no. Hbo Now Subscriber and have been for awhile. I wonder how this impacts me and the other day literally. Yesterday I was talking about this I went in happened. Check my spam filter and found my email saying. Hey you're GONNA get. Hbo Max Because you're an HBO now subscriber so I didn't fact update my apps this morning and went to look and browse round and kind of content is there. I think that my feelings on it are like there is some continent there that I wanNA watch. But they're Joe's right that there's just like the content. Saturation is so high right now. The adding a bunch of other stuff on top of it is definitely not something that I feel like. I really have the ability to do so. There might be if you think check out. I am still going to watch the HBO stuff. I was watching before like John. Oliver and Westworld and things like that but I don't know that there's a lot I want to branch out in there. Which is too bad because there are shows even in there right now that I thought. Oh you know. I love to see that but I don't have access to And on the flip side. There's stuff that I wanNA watch. That was on services owned by Warner that is not included in this so several of the things from the DC universe streaming service which is still its own thing are not included in HBO. Max I don't know why So all in all confusing but at least I'm paying the same price I was paying with. Hbo Now and getting more content. So I guess that's good. I know what it is. I don't have it I've not an. Hbo Consumer of any kind. So I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything. It's fifteen dollars a month. Good grief. Man I mean for people who are fans of HBO content specifically. It's probably a no brainer. Obviously there's lots of other stuff to There a lot of other streaming services also so it's just not it's not for me And Yeah I don't. I don't think I'm gonNA find any of the Time Warner content. I'm missing on. Hbo Max to be honest. I haven't looked because the thing I care about most is turner classic movies stuff and nature maxes unlikely to be where. I would find most of that content. There might be some classics. I'm sure there are say haven't looked but I think for me. The price is the fact that I'm not an HBO consumer means. I probably would've have done anyway. But the price is a super deterrent. Especially when you compare it to all the other streaming services are available and if you feel like you have to have more than one of those than you're you're looking into some serious box if you're adding. Hbo Max to life. Yeah it's it's very pricey I have looked a lot into it I had. I don't think I have. I think I had. I honestly can't be sure I think at some point I had HBO. But I think period of time just so I could watch something on HBO. I honestly don't remember So no I have not bothered looking much into it but I just learned that there's looney tunes on. Hbo and there was something else that seemed of interest to me. But I don't know if I have it so I guess I'll have to check today to find out. Joe Save me from my shame. What are your last thoughts on this? I think the rollout has been very confusing and I am not surprised by the the answers given that It's not immediately obvious why anyone would really want this over regular. Hbo Because The name basically Fifty percent of it communicates that has hbo and then the rest of it doesn't really specify what is you're getting the billboards I've seen around town have Mainly shown things that you already could get through your HBO subscription Like There was a dark night meets sister night billboard and it's like great. Both of those were was a movie you could watch through. Hbo and the other one was the TV series. You can watch HBO so it doesn't really elaborate on that. Although I do like the where aquaman meets Batman Meets Cartman. Hbo Max Billboard. Because that's what everyone wants. I think and I have to say even though I tried to be a good service consumer this morning and a Goto. Hbo Max's Link on their twitter to go to the thing to download HBO. Max App when you click on it in the APP store it kicks you to the HBO now APP if you had that on your phone already. It doesn't update it from. Hbo Now to HBO. Max You have to go to your own updates and dragged down and then it will update that to HBO. Max then you have to log in with your credentials for your service provider if you're somebody who gets because you have a certain. At and T. Plan that qualifies or a you have cable company or a company that has a qualifying subscription and I did that and then had asked me to create an HBO. Max Account and I tried to do that and then it said it needed to link my existing account with an existing account and I said okay. Sure send me the verification email. It did not arrive in my inbox and as of this writing. It's this podcasting. It still hasn't and it kicked me back from the the verification page to sign up page so I'm going to give this a little bit to continue to percolate but I am not surprised at this is quite as. At sloppy as it is. Let's take a quick break before we round out the show because it's halftime. This episode of clockwise is brought to you by Leonod whether you're working on a personal project or managing your Enterprises Infrastructure Leonard has the pricing the support and scale. You need to take your project to the next level. Eleven data centers worldwide including their newest data center in Sydney Australia and with Enterprise Grade Hardware S. three compatible storage options and. It's next generation network. Leno delivers the performance. 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Twenty Twenty for that twenty dollars credit and our thanks to Leonard for their support of this show and all of relay. Fm So twitter is labeling some tweets as misinformation and facebook at the same time reportedly buried a report from its own internal investigators finding that the platform increases division. I'm kind of curious what you think. It should social media platforms. Be Responsible for contextualising these kinds of information. This kind of information If so kind of what's the right way to approach that what? What are their responsibilities in in which they'd be doing small scale question? I realized shelley. The original premise of your question was great because I had a joke. That was going to work. But I'm GonNa tell it anyway so. The original premise. Of Your question in the notes is if you ran a social network. What would you do and my job was going to be. Well if I ran a social network I would be fabulously wealthy so I would do the following. I would create a nonprofit. I Would Fund a nonprofit facts checking outfit that will be independent of my social network and I would say I want you to fact. Check the public figures. Who are out there. Who need fact checking and come up with a plan by which you decide who gets facts checked and I will continue to sit on my bags of money and run my network. That won't solve all the problems but I do feel like whenever you say to the networks while you need. This terrible thing just happened. You need to fix it that it's it's harder than it. It's not as simple as get the hate speech off which I'm for Get the nudity off. Get this this thing that offends some segment of society. It's it's incredibly difficult to thread the needles and figure out what is what what level of free speech you're going to provide. I wouldn't want to run a social network. That was a cesspool pool. I think what facebook has done is reprehensible. I think what twitter is doing. With fact checking thing is way late. I think it all stems. From the fact that the people who run these networks are victims of their own success and never had any idea or never thought about the fact that people are the way they are and that networks growing without any sort of constraints are bound to end this way and I think changing the platform now. Why is why you get so much backlash from it because people are just like wait a minute? You've let stuff go cesspool. Go On for five ten fifteen years. And now you're going to change it in a piecemeal patchwork fashion and it seems like you have to think about this stuff from scratch or come up with a way to take a A A bigger picture. Look at how you can run a network that is both inclusive of all voices but not a place that everybody makes jokes about not wanting to spend any time on. That's hard I mean. Do you have an answer for me now? I think we've got I agree with Shelly I. I don't have anything to add. I would also focus on. The fact checking factor. I don't know if it would actually help in the end because Psychology tends to show that A lot of times our and our own ideas are reinforced when we are confronted with With com- with composing with opposing ideas. So I don't know if it would result in in someone believing that what they are. Having fact checked is inaccurate based on the fact check But that is that is the place that I would want to focus would definitely be on trying to stem the spread of misinformation whether it would work is a whole nother Question that I don't know. Has It answer Joe about you? Yeah I mean I think it's pretty easy for us to say what these companies shouldn't shouldn't do because it's it's hard to. It seems obvious on his face that well things that are factually. Wrong should be corrected but at the same time I don't entirely envy the position of being the person who has to tell certain political figures that what they have said is incorrect. But at the same time I agree that if we don't do that then you just condone that and it doesn't make your place of welcoming home for people who that it's factually incorrect. A damages the public at large it damages people who aren't even using your platform because news organizations will reference those things that they see on your social network To to Have that be a bit of news to discuss for their twenty four hour news channel. I do think that they haven't done enough but It is weird to see people. Bow To These political entities Because then eventually what? The truth is becomes entirely subjective If you if you don't reinforce anything about it yeah I think you're exactly right. I mean The way that this be handled more band aid and the problem is a gaping wound. Those two things. Don't go well together. I think Shelley's right there like fact checking way to potentially go but the scale is just so enormous even if you want to fact check. Every public figure are a lot of public figures. So you know rolling that out. I I agree Joe. I don't I don't Mb Jack Dorsey or the people who are kind of going to be responsible for that. But at the same time they dug that great for themselves you know maybe they never envisioned that the service would get quite as popular and become as influential as it is but they had the responsibility to figure out how to handle that because they are the ones who great it and they're the ones who are reaping the profit from it. I also want to make it clear you know. I'm not aware but the free speech angle of this always bothered me a bit because it's private service Twitter does not have they're under no obligation to host any kind of speech and that's the thing that they often hide behind when they don't want to take responsibility for it and I get it taking responsible for that turns you into sort of a moderator and arbitrator and potentially not only damaged services but you know gets a lot of people angry. Why take down this thing and not this thing So you know it's a hard problem but guess what you're making millions upon millions of dollars that's why you're getting paid. That much is to think about these problems and find ways to solve them and it's going to require more than slapping warning on something it's going to require taking a grand approach to thinking about how this is handled but leaving it running unchecked as it is now. I think is incredibly dangerous and incredibly irresponsible. So thanks for all your thoughts. I you know I could probably go another ten minutes on this easily. But we don't have time because we have one more topic and it comes from Shelly. So this is a three part question. Fear not. It's not too hard. Apple is reopening about one hundred of its. Us Stores This Week. And so my questions are as follows. Are you planning to go to an apple store anytime soon? And before the pandemic. When was the last time you went to an apple store? And what did you do there? I am not planning to go to an apple store anytime soon as you noted in the document You can do a lot of what you need to do. An apple store online and I have taken advantage of that in the past The last time I went to an apple store. Oh boy it was right after I moved to to California and it was because my Macbook pro with retina display An older model had started to do the battery bubble thing and so I had to take it in to be serviced and have a new battery put into it and at that point it was nice and it was fine. Everything was good because we could be around people without freaking out and always well and I took it in and I said Please fix my bulging laptop and they did and it was good job. What about you? Yeah I have no immediate plans to go into an apple store and I hope that I don't have anything. Go wrong with my existing apple equipment. Knock on on would Because I don't really want to do anything that involves going into the store or doing any online servicing I appreciate that those things exist and I appreciate apples care I. It's not that I don't trust them or that I don't trust the retail processes Or their response to this. I think they're taking this very seriously and their approach to this I have no reason to doubt Will be done very well. I just don't personally want to go into any store. Don't have to go into right. Now is not is not a criticism of apple itself. I'm in an apple store right now. You know that sounds bad but not do that. No I have no plans to go immediately as Joe was saying. I don't go to any stores. I don't need to go to the grocery store and occasionally at the drugstore. That's about it I fortunately don't have know immediate need to do so so I'm going to be perfectly happy with Steph online. I if new hardware comes out that'll be fine. How our stuff anyways not go into a store to buy hardware As far as the last time it was in there I honestly can't remember I was racking my brain and I think I might have gone in with my wife to get a replacement for her Beats headphones like last fall. Probably in after that but I really I really honestly can't can't remember I was probably be went to the mall for something else. Pop the door and just poked my head in he was there but yeah I cannot remember when that was so yes. I don't need to go back so I don't plan to go to an apple store either as it happens. I had an IPAD. Catastrophe happened a couple of weeks. Back in the IPAD took a header onto the floor screen shattered. Ohno's and I was planning to order a new one from the campus computer store that I've access to you because there's a slight discount and so I did that and I got a call from I soon. They would ship it and I got a call from them and they said hey you wanna come and pick it up curbside and I said all right because I could get it that afternoon and I live about a mile from this place and so what's funny is his on a university campus. So it's not like going to a store storefront. It's going to an academic building that has a store in it so there was texting back and forth about where we should park and how we should handle this contactless transaction and it worked out fine and so that was my interaction not with the apple store but with apple products and now I have a happy new IPAD. The last time I was there was for a repair for the IPAD. That is now no longer with us. I think about a year ago and it was a a weird thing right. I couldn't I couldn't reinstall the operating system and it was. It was something very strange. And they fixed the genius Bar Guy Fixed it for me. And everything was swell and He had to dig down deep. Indu Apple Diagnostic things that I was not able to do and made it work and sadly that ipad is no longer alive no longer alive except in our hearts in our minds and in our thoughts Well folks we have just reached the end of a of our episode. But we've got enough time for a bonus topic my question for you. What was your favorite breakfast cereal as a Kid? Joe? We'll start with you honey. Nut Clusters One that nobody's ever heard of called product nineteen which is Kellogg cereal. Don't ask about nineteen it got discontinued in two thousand sixteen and I'm very should have been nineteen. I liked product. One thousand nine as a kid. But I was made fun of Merciful Mercy for that. Yes nerdy in it. It's supposed to be good for you like multi grain. It was. It was nice as good so so mine is believe in truth in advertising so I really like sugar corn POPs. I think you should know what you're eating mine. Was French. Toast crunch the probably sugary of sugary cereals. You could you could get but I loved French toast crunch and let me be clear. I'm not talking about cinnamon toast. Crunch I'm am very much talking about French toast crunch. It was bad for me and I loved it. Just like this episode of clockwise kidding. I suppose all of its left is to thank our incredible guests. Joseph Rosen Steel. Thanks for coming back on the show. Thanks for having me and Shelley Brisbane. Thank you so much for here. Thanks for inviting me back and mica off to have cereal for my lunch and maybe your breakfast. I don't know We'll be back next week until then however we remind everybody listening out there. Watch what you say. Keep watching the clock by buddy.

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Clockwise 322: I'm More Surprised That I Was Surprised

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Clockwise 322: I'm More Surprised That I Was Surprised

"It's time for episode. Three hundred and twenty two of the clockwise podcasts from relay. FM recorded Wednesday November twenty seventh two thousand Nineteen Faulk wise or people or topics thirty minutes. Welcome back to clockwise the tech podcast that just pardoned and twelve Turkeys gobble-gobble. I am one of your co hosts Mike Sergeant and I am joined across the Internet by my co host. The one one and only well. I don't know if that's true. But certainly the coolest Dan Moore. Okay thank you I. I'll take the coolest. There is a Dan mourn somewhere. WHO's a DA agent so he might cooler than me? That's pretty cool. But I'm just going to say I'M GONNA say no I'm GONNA say now. I am happy to report that we are are joined by two incredible guests and to my left is the tech analyst who I love to follow for all of her thoughts especially on twitter as well as the heart of tech founder it is Carolina Milanesi. Hello how are you good morning morning. I'm very well so happy to have you here with us. Very exciting and to my left. Returning guests design lead CHAPA FI in the co host of the layout podcast. Ask Kevin Clark. Welcome back Evan. Hello very happy here. We're going to have you back and I am glad to kick things off because as you know we've got four topics six thirty minutes and here's mine the California. DMV TURNS OUT THERE MAKING Bank by selling personal data This was a story that kind of Showed that you know the DMV has all this information and to supplement their income. They are Dr Selling the data and I kind of just WANNA know. Were you surprised to hear that this was going on or is it just expected acted at this point and it kind of just blew past you and then what are the implications of that Carolina. We'll start with you. I was surprised but I think I was more surprised. I was surprised because Sabina foreigner so I you know I tell you lived in the UK a a the the DMV was my one of my first experiences out foreign. Yeah exactly yeah So going through after eighteen years or so of driving Retaking my test and just going through this system is actually Salihi experience. But everybody's going to have to endure 'cause you'RE GONNA learn to be kind to people but you know the surprises reprises that the part of surprise for me was we give so much grief to private companies and especially lately facebook social media in general. We are very good at scrutinizing as we should you know what people do with our data. Ah How they use it. Who is selling to and so forth but for some reason here we are with a public entity and indeed? That is Doing all of that and actually not being even ashamed that they're doing it and I don't know how much people are going to question it. It's not like we don't pay them or ready for for the service that they offer right So why do they need to do evatt. where Warih's believers as far as Where is Government have to step in if they need more funds or visit way things are. I don't know much. People are actually questioning. That's wrong. Of course I think I think that it is. I agree agree with Carolina that the being surprised is surprising because in this day and age it seems like personal information. Basically looks like from every place honestly. Did you know well. This information may not be as sensitive as a health information. I think the healthcare industry seems like a good pattern to base it on in terms of like you should due to have the ability to sign off on your information being shared writing. It's one thing if an insurance company or another Private companies like like. Look we need access to your driving information so that we can verify. XYZ Or so that we can look at this information and make a determination from sort of a public You know from a standpoint point of our business decision That's fine but again you should be notified at the very least and in most cases you certainly have an opportunity to you know Denied denied that information. If it is not really needed in a lot of those cases I don't think it is so it is all surprising the certainly the public agencies and the government government should be held to as high as standard as corporations if not higher Because the information they have about us is often more sensitive. So this seems seems seems kind of sketchy. It seems like they should not be doing this. And somebody should be having oversight of this and I feel like if this happening in my state maybe it is. I don't know it is then I feel like maybe I should be a lot of anger and I should know about it. Yeah that's my biggest problem with it like I feel like your weather. APP is selling your data. It sucks but you can always find another weather APP but there's not really an alternative to the DMV right Joe Dot com competitor. I think to me like that's where the problem is here. Yeah there's literally no alternative so yeah this is very unfortunate But not surprising a so. I'm on board with with everybody here. I think The biggest issue is the fact that for me. The biggest issue is the fact that you have a state that right now is coming forth with. What is the California Protection Privacy Act or something like that Privacy Protection Act? That's IT and the at the same time. A state government entity is doing this this thing that's essentially stealing people's ah taking people's information as Kevin has pointed out you are sort of required to give you you've got to him this stuff over as part of the application process and and so yeah it. Doesn't I get it if it's Domino's pizza because I have the choice to not use that pizza pizza place but for this. You know I've got to go and get my license in order to be all good in the state and that is what makes us an issue for me so yeah thank you all for your answers on that. Let's move on to our next topic which comes from Caroliina well this week because I I don't think we have enough way to collaborate in an enterprise environment. I was eager to read an article about loom. Who is the accompaniment is actually been launching operative since two thousand sixteen It is a video message company for an enterprise environment. The CO founder. is Coming from instagram they have management coming from dropbox in slack and vaping that visual communication is the way forward and so if you're tired of typing is lock here you go you can record a message and send it to your co workers for greater impact. I don't know what you think I I looked at some of the demos of this. I cannot I feel like I can't think of anything more frustrating than somebody being like. Let me show you a video. The sit there and wait through the video to to get to the point like I. Maybe this is again. Maybe I am an old fogy here. I feel like text works pretty well and I just don't i. It seems like a lot of overhead. If it's something that can really be accomplished via face to face you know sort of situation you might as well have a video skype chat chat or facetime or something like that but one way video message seems to me to be Just not a fantastic way to communicate things because it doesn't really allow at the same degree of interactivity and you're kind of doing this very asymmetric conversation. I just I don't I don't get it and I'm not really optimistic that this will go anywhere. I think this is an attempt to do sort of capitalize on the success of things like a snapchat and try to integrate that into business and I don't think that's necessarily necessarily a good fit also. I'm very disappointed that though you can speed it up to like one and a half or two times as much. There's no option to slow it down to half speed. which would actually just making it so much more? My bosses drunk at work again. This is grade their messaging is maybe a little bit. Misleading have placing a sort of a replacement for slack and stuff like that But for me I maybe have a slightly different opinion than than both of you on this Letting this can actually really be super useful in a context. Where say you're in a company with offices all around the world and you have to collaborate with people that are like in wholly wholly different time zones like? I don't know if you're collaborating with people in India and stuff like that like there are always times when you wanted plane sampling and it's so much easier to explain in it kind of like if you were in the same office. You'd just like walk over there. Death can have a conversation about it but in this case it's like you might not even be able to have like a skype conversation conversation at the same time so like I feel like in some cases like this in sort of like this remote working remote collaboration with people. I think this could be be useful. Now we're going to get rid of email slag get rid of all of these things. Probably not I think it's maybe more of an addition Chen so it's not that the world on fire but I think there could be a use for it. I like the idea of any sort of other than just text getting messages across. Especially because time and time again I be at friends or family. I hear somebody talking about a message that they received from a friend or from from a CO worker. What have you? And they had their own sort of spin on the way that the message is delivered. And it's just text and so you can take texts and you can read text in many different ways and give it any sort of meaning that you want to. Sometimes it's important to be able to get across the communication that you need to get across in a way that successfully gets your point and your the emotions behind the point across so I think in terms of sort of office politics things like that. This is a great idea but also the fact that they are really focusing on screen casting thing and showing people how to to get things done so pluses and minuses there carolina any thoughts on that. I totally really get the emotional. Lower deed convey your emotion. I'm Italian you know fucking show my hands and voice saying time is a winner but I don't know that we'd necessarily need something. That is standalone versus you. Know some of the features a some of the Services that we already using thinking about a similar feature just because God we have so many channels already that you need to remember who so you know you talking to where the time that this just adds complications. I love the the point that can be made about a different time. James Own as a sucker. Iowa's got up or stayed up late Four votes kind of calls But visas actually vets a very interesting idea in screen casting too. I just wish that somebody would just integrate in. Maybe that's what their strategy is is to get off the ground they raised While thirty million in round be and then just got get ball and an integrated maybe by somebody like zoom Well folks we have have reached halftime. Which means it's time to tell you about Lynn? Owed with Leno you can instantly deploy and manage. SSD Server in the cloud and you can get us overrunning in just seconds with your choice of Lennox Destroy Resources and node location now. Leonard has hundreds of thousands of customers including Wa. Aw and they're all looked after by their incredible twenty four seven support team. If you ever run into any problems you just drop them an email give them a call or just chat over. 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Kevin what do you think. I'm kind of a bad person to start with on this question because I'm I'm really not a deal person personally so I'm not I don't have any big strategy. One thing I will say though. Is that You know we often associate these deals with Amazon's like that And I think that's fine you know for for buying stuff But one website that I would recommend it's called. CPI G THE DOT ex wives. Ed it's a basically what it is a the repository of cool and interesting direct to consumer brands. So if you WANNA buy from brands like directly all of them have great design and like they're really interesting products you can check them out like I'm sure all of them will have We'll have good deals for black Friday cyber Monday. So it's a could alternative. I always look for smart home stuff. Because you do get some good discounts on smart home stuff but the software deals this this year have been ridiculous For Twenty four hours. I believe it might be over now or close to over But for twenty four hours the a pixel mater team was offering pixel mater photo for completely free which is just ridiculous It is is a fantastic APP. And then they also I think we're offering their desktop application for fifty percent off or something like that so I recommend just just heading into the APP store or checking twitter if you are there for all sorts of excellent black Friday deals but I don't really I don't really go to any specific sites or get super into black Friday or even go out in person. Although I know some some of my family members always enjoy the Friday rush. That is black Friday actually Thursday night rush that leads into the Friday rush. That is black Friday anyway. Caroliina what about you. I definitely don't go to restores anymore. A YOU STU was I duNNo. DMV One of those ritual. Your spare you learn as you come to the US and he was kind of exciting and then you know. I think it's ridiculous but you have to spend two hours trying to find a parking spot. Aw before you even get so yeah Not Doing I do spend some time. Online December is busy for us because the Christmas and my daughter has a birthday and so I look for anything that part from the core gave it. She wants this here because I won't find that on sale. You know anything that she might want for for her birthday. Vizier was actually a phone but I do actually like Mikhail. Spent time on The APP store the across the board and looking at any Deals by my kid is a Gamer. So anything around jams or anything that gives you four nights skins or anything like that. Where are she actually finds it for me because A S- coming out of her pocket money so she is become a very good bargain hunter? on that side of things That's pretty much. It is specific devices and then obviously a spend a lotta time just looking around from research purpose. At least. That's what I say to my husband and my my wife also would take the Corgi if that were on offer. But so I I for me. Personally I've dialed back a lot. I think the one thing I tend to do is the wire cutter has its deals page and I just sort of skim through that every every once in a while to see if there's anything that I've really been looking for that's on sale and occasionally I'll try to track things down. Currently I need to like renew my office. Three sixty five subscription and last year. I got a really good deal on right so kind of keeping my eyes out to see if there's another good deal on that But Yeah I don't I don't dive in as much as I used to. I think in general with many of these things. I realized that most of the stuff that I ended up buying a black Friday's stuff. I don't need so why buy it in the first place every once in a while across like a gift for somebody And that's great right. But you for me. I I've definitely dialed back a lot. And I the wire cutter. I trust them enough to know that if they've got like a good deal than it is a good deal. But it's still may be a good deal that I don't need but thanks for all your thoughts on that. Let us go to our final topic which comes from Kevin Cool. Have you all heard of sharing. No late well. I hadn't either. But according to the New York Times. This is a term that describes parents who over share photos and other data about their children on on social media. The my question is do you think this is an issue. and Are you worried about the impact of having the entirety of your life be documented on social media like even before you can actually make the decision vers of what you WANNA post. It is something that I think at first. Maybe we don't consider are and are having to start to consider going forward I guess to answer the question about whether I'm worried about that impact. I absolutely am I think about some of my friends who have children and who do post their kids online and and what that's going to mean for the future and you know what what kind of impact that will have. That impact is yet and so I don't know where to put my energies in relation to this. It's like how how much should I care about this. And so ultimately I'm just sort of staying aware of it and I know that if you know speaking personally if I was ever in the situation of posting my non. Canine Children Aka human children. I would think very carefully about how I would do that. And with whom I would share those those photos and things like that so yeah. I'm curious Carolina as a parent. What you think yeah apparent and apparent that has as you know a kind of a unique job and so I'm a little bit in the public domain and I struggle and with this quite quite a bit ended for me of a beginning? It was living away from family and friends and so facebook was that piece of of a way to keep in touch and especially for my mom. Wait to see her only grandchild grow so to the the benefit of that for me outweighed it kind of a downside. I'm always very careful about what pictures I post in terms of beg ground and I try my hardest when he's a public post not to share My daughter's name but then of course there are people who follow me who know her name and will use their earnings in the post. And what can you do but what was interesting was that I think has been like about two and a bit years now. So she's eleven. Turning twelve. Next month I started asking permission before I post something so she vets any faking. That I post says a picture or comments that I post which means that when I reach my ten thousand followers on twitter I have to give her a credit because she thinks the humor but she brings to my account. This is why I got to thank But I think that's what it is and and for me now that you know. She's of an age where she understands more and having just got a phone is more about teaching her the consequences of putting too much out there and and what she puts out you know how what she puts out reflect on her and so being true to who she is and then how to handle herself in that world so so that to me is becoming now more of a priority and kind of teaching moment. If you like and and I don't want to do what I normally into which is talking the talk but not walking the walk. Get off the screen but mom you may not for seven and a half hours then kind of thing. Yeah I think that's a great way. Put it there's a line to walk. I mean I don't have any kids yet but I've gone through a little bit of this with my wife because for similar reasons that caroline was saying like I I checked with when I am going to post a photo that she is in or sometimes. I'll jot down like a conversation that we had that that is pretty funny and I'll just like just make sure your cooling hosting that and the answer is pretty much always. Yes but the point is to ask like and that doesn't always work with kids right because like you were saying as of a certain age. They don't really get the idea so like they're not equipped to make a decision for awhile necessarily about what they do or do not want posted. But it's worth always thinking through when you're posting things whether or not there's there's you know Something that could blow back on that and that's something to be careful about something as I think Mike is their new challenges that we have to deal with in this connected age at the same time I also certainly you know. Get the idea of like sharing stuff with other people who may be far away and you know when your kid is a part of your life you want to share that with people so And you want to post pictures and stuff like that. I don't think you should totally lock it down but you definitely need to think about how it will play and what the implications of it it could be so. There's a line to walk there and I don't think that necessarily there's one approach that fits every case but you know the the only sort of blanket vice I could. I could think is to say just like think through the consequences before you post these things Kevin any last thoughts to wrap up here. Yeah I mean I love the idea of kind of asking take on the air at the age where they can sort of get that that concerned before posing Am I worried about the impact of having your life documented on social media. Yes but I also feel like we've talked about the story. 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Well I got married in July so I feel like there is no other right answer to say that. I'm thankful for my wife. Who is a wonderful loving living person in puts up with me a lot and she doesn't even listen to this podcast so she won't even know him? I am thankful for Baby Oda and I and I didn't know I needed so much in my life and so add I am thankful for for folks with with open hearts and open minds Which I've had the pleasure of like becoming friends with with many of these people Through podcasts and and online goings about including all of you find folks here who make the job that I know Dan and I do and that that that I do day to day all the more fun all the more interesting and all the more rewarding and I'm also thankful for all of our listeners out there who are listening listening to this episode of clockwise but we have reached the end of the episode. Which means it's time to say goodbye for now to you? My friends Caroliina Milanesi. Thank you so so much much for being here. It was such a pleasure really enjoyed it and Kevin Clark thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so much for having me so much as always and I feel like we need to have a big group hug with all of our listeners. Were there we will be back next week but until then we remind all of you listening out there. Watch what you say and Dan keep watching the clock everybody.

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Clockwise 288: Facebook Is Gonna Facebook

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29:40 min | 1 year ago

Clockwise 288: Facebook Is Gonna Facebook

"It's time for episode two hundred eight of the clockwise podcast from relay FM recorded Wednesday, April third two thousand nineteen clockwise or people four TEK topics. Thirty minutes. Welcome back clockwise, the tech podcast that unlike airpower continues to achieve our high standards. I am your go host Mike sergeant and I am joined across the internet by my good pal. Good buddy and good co host Dan Moore and hide in. I'm all of those things. Mike. I am. I'm the good one. More. Well, we have two good guests. They don't think they tend to fall into the Maha camp to my left is the co director of app Cam for girls, the host of originality right here on relay and A-plus map proprietary. I love that. It is a lean SIMS. How you doing lean? I am. Okay. Hello, friends and to my left. It's an analyst a podcast and the host of the fabulous YouTube show vector it is Rene Ritchie. Welcome back Rene. One of them had to be right. Odds were against us. The odds of us doing this podcast are not against us. You know, how it works? We've got these guests we've got four topics. We got thirty minutes. So I'm gonna kick things off here. Walmart announced a new Google assistant powered grocery shopping option. So essentially, you can say, hey, Google, I would like to get some groceries from WalMart in then you are able to order those groceries and WalMart has some different options, including a pickup where you just go when you park, and they come out with your groceries. I'm curious what's something mundane like grocery shopping that you think could be improved with the use of voice assistance. A lean. We'll start with you. I guess I'm an imaginative because I don't feel a lot of friction on things. Like, I don't wanna go to the grocery store. But I also don't want to say, hey. Vice order my groceries. I mean, I can't even get it to turn on my lights reliably. So I really like, please, please turn on my lights reliably. Recognized when I say at coke to my shopping list and don't add other things to my shopping list dead. I'm like, I don't know. I just I just. Maybe somebody there's going to be something. We're gonna be like, yes, I really need. My voice assistant to do that. But I'm just I'm not there. I would like my voices. And if I could just be like, hey, goo goo to go with Mike predicated things file my Texas. That'd be great. I would that that would be excellent unless you're wanna give them my tax information. But I'm kind of way in it there. There are a lot of things. So I notice today, for example, the Google duplex feature that like creepy robot calling thing is coming to phones now wish and so the idea of something where like I could tell the echo to make me a doctor's appointment or something like that where have to call someplace in like set up a time and appointment to do things. Like, I actually do think there's a certain amount appeal to that. I love the idea of pretending to be a person. But I feel like if there were some sort of API offered by all these offices where I need to make appointments where I could just say, hey, make this point. For me next week, preferably. And it would just do it. That'd be great because I would avoid having to call people on the phone, which is always a, plus I I don't really want on my business. So I really tentative about all of this stuff to begin with. But I also think we're getting ready to make those leaps from active to proactive. So you shouldn't have to say get me. They just know that she needs coq and just do it for you. This all these like machine learning thing about machine learning does a lot of heavy lifting. I don't want to sort through five hundred dollars. Just find me the top ten for me to sort through. And I don't want to have to tell you to do every little thing. Just you'll get those light bulbs when you think the other ones are gonna run out because you know, when I got the other ones, you know, that's my annual physics physical times or just make that doctor's appointment. Dan is just finish the third book and his installment and is ready for purchase or just send that to my house and all of those things should just be done with that. Like, what's the point of an assistant? If you still have to do all the work. So that's that's what I'm waiting for. I would love it. If I could sort of set, different appointments. It's and set up different events, including the contact people part of the process and making sure that it's available. You know, a lot of a lot of the services that we use these days already have some sort of online process for setting up appointments be at your doctor or your hair cut to place or getting your nails done. What have you, and if these services could sort of act as a go-between to do that process? That'd be super cool. If I could just say, hey, goo goo win. I want to get a haircut this week what appointments are available and then at the same time as it's going in figuring out what my hairdresser has available. It's also comparing that against my calendar. So it knows to only offer me events times that work with my calendar already. Oh, that's so cool or would be if that's how it worked. But I hope that they can can get that. Awesome. Those mundane things become exciting enough that even a has use for them. Right. So I've done something. I said I would never ever ever ever do. And I bought a second ipad for day-to-day use. So I'm living the multiplied lifestyle. So I was curious about y'all I think as answer to this. But everyone else to do you live or want to live the multi Todd lifestyle, and how do you or would you use different sites? Different sized screens were you to embark upon this controversial expensive way of life. I am not living multi-patterned lifestyle, and I have no desire to in fact, if anything I would like to have fewer devices than I already have because between an iphone and ipad, amac book and act like it's just keeping all your data, and sink like can do it. But it's like a fulltime job. Sometimes. So I don't really feel the need to add other ipad into that mix. And I don't have a compelling enough. Use case I think in large part because I don't use my ipad enough, probably as it is at least with my MAC book. And my MAC, I have very distinct contexts in which I'm using those two devices. So adding an ipad into that mix his fine. It does sort of fill in a few gaps where I might otherwise using my same laptop. But I don't feel the need to add another tablet on top of that. I'm not really sure what I would do with that. So in terms of different screen sizes like have already got an iphone and ipad that I use for various things. Ensure I prefer watching video on my head, and I prefer writing on my ipad. But you know, for most of my everyday stuff, I'm using my phone because it's they're always with me. And that's that's a big argument for it. What I'd rather have is a device that somehow finds a way to scale to provide whatever screen size. I need at the moment. But as with our voice assistance that future is probably. Still little ways off my family is big on ipad lifestyle. My mom hasn't. I mac. I don't think she ever touches it anymore. We got her the ipad air to and then we got her. The original ipad pro and she didn't replace it. She started using them one after the other which at the plug in one. She would switch to the other. And they were pretty much the same for for what she did with them. Probably preferred using ipad prototype on do those things. But now the ipad air is sort of chugging out and she wants the new ipad air three and she's going to maintain that dual ipad life, and my sister who works in the medical industry is the same. She has a mini nine point seven inch ipad pro and the ipad mini three pen, many three is getting long tooth, and she has a macbook air. I don't know how much she uses it. But she loves using those ipads, the ipad, mini what she uses on the bus when she goes to work in the day or the train when she goes in between cities, and she just loves it. And they're entirely different. Things are one is sort of like, a worke work thing and one is sort of a relax. And listen to audio books are read e books or watch movies or TV shows on and I can certainly feel that I use a MAC book pro for final cut. But I use an ipad pro for most everything else, especially when I'm at coffee shops are traveling. And I have the ipad mini four with me now. And I'm just I just been using it to read like all the comic books because marvel unlimited and a couple books because I have to and then just watching all the stuff, and it's it's really nice. And especially when you're traveling it just doesn't drain your phone, which is always my nightmare because a minute. I hit roaming. I just watched that battery go down, and if I can do something anything to keep my phone functional phone, then I preserve it, and I know like living the Pat multi Todd life is an indulgence no real human needs it. But I feel like there are places for them. If you really want it that enough. I I'm kinda with Dan, I really do like my pet that I have with you know, it's got my keyboard. And it sort of serves as my go between between the macbook pro. That's my desk that is my computer computer, and my huge iphone that I have that I carry around with me along with my apple watch. But if the multi Pat lifestyle came knocking at my door because I wouldn't come knocking it it store than the ipad mini would be the one that. I'd see when I opened it up. A any last thoughts on that? Yeah. Actually. So the reason I went for the multi pad lifestyle is because of the many five my kindle, I have a twenty fourteen can devoid. And so I was like I'm trying to like, I don't think I'm gonna I'm not ardent about moving away from Amazon, but maybe I give Amazon less money. So do I want to buy a new kindle, and then be in the kindle ecosystem? Do I wanna start using Cobo? Like, what do I want to do in the ipad gives me the versatility that I want and Rene your sister's use cases mine exactly like I have a twelve point nine inch a new twelve point nine inch ipad pro which I use for work. But I don't feel comfortable pulling that out on the bus where anyone can see like that's flashy that seems really flashy to me. But like a little mini on the bus where I can read a book just that versatility. And I've not setting up mail on it. I'm trying. Not just sit at messages on it. And I'm really trying to make it something that I'm using four like that cliche where has her only for consumption that I think we're kind of moving away from that trope now. But like, that's what I want. This ipad mini to be. I didn't even get cellular on it. I was like I can to my phone if I need to. It's just going to be something that I can take with me. And then immerse myself in whatever it is. I want to immerse myself and not think about Twitter or whatever. Which is what happens when I'm reading on my phone. So that's kind of never thought it would happen. But when I got into that e reader to bait with myself, it was like why lock myself in just just be able to do all the things. Well, excellent folks we have made it to half time. But before we continue on I want to tell you about our good pals over at Leno who are bringing you this episode with Leno, you can instantly deploy into manage an SSD server in the cloud, and you can get a server running in just seconds with your choice of Lennox destroy, resources and node. Low -cation. It doesn't matter if you're working on your first server or deploying a complex system because Lynn owed is the company to go to the fastest hardware and network with outstanding customer support if you ever need help super easy to launch a lynyrd cloud server and their block storage is available in Newark, Fremont, Dallas, Atlanta, Frankfurt, London, and Singapore. And by the way, it's coming to Tokyo soon version four of leno's, restful API is out of beta and includes inefficiently supported python c L. I and right now Lynnette is hiring. If you wanna learn more and check out what they're looking for. You can go to Lynn dot com slash careers. 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You start seeing something happening with the technology, and you us being technology people roller is and thank God. That is not how that works. That's not remotely possible. So my question for you just for fun is what what is the trope used in movies? The tech troop that drives you crazy Rene. It's got to be just how easy it is to hack absolutely everything on the internet even talking about Tony stark sitting in the nexus, whatever that is and just hacking everything, but it just seems like. Anybody who puts on a pair of glasses can flip around the laptop type in a few symbols all of a sudden have access to everything from your personal computer to Nassar's deepest darkest alien vault, and that I just wanted to put him a little bit of work. Let's shows are getting better about this. I've noticed, but the thing that always used to bug me so much and continues to and I see it is that no phones that people answer in shows have approximity censor in in the speaker because every time they put it up to their head. The the screen is still on. I'm watching this. And I see that happen. And I just get completely pulled out because I'm like, what was the director thinking there where they thinking that people would think that the phone was off. You know, what I mean like, I just start spinning down this thing. Like, why not just do it? How actually works the problem with that too? Is that when I do see it, and it does it correctly. I get distracted too. Because I take a moment. To celebrate the. People should not talk on the phone on shows. Don't talk on the shows. That's the trope. Nobody these days talks on the phone. Let's be real. They say, hey, Google and have Google do it for them. A lean thoughts I have to and I notice them less and less now, but one is enhance and you can get in Hansa photo. If it was taken seventeen miles away was taken from the stratosphere it can it can see a pinpoint on the sidewalk in that drives me bananas. And the other is when people are typing, especially on max, and they're doing stuff, and it's making all these beeps and boots. And it's like that's not actually those beeps and boobs don't exist. People know, they don't exist. Instill for some reason, those beeps and boobs are in there. Why founded technology, that's what my computer does how you know. It's working. Those are all excellent, especially thank you for mentioning zoom in enhance neighbors. Not nearly as good as the movie enemy of the state where they have a computer that fix out a bag on the other side the person even though they don't have never mind, and it was my personal pet peeve. And I still see it. A lot is hacking any sort of password where it's resolved one character at a time. Not even remotely how incriptions where it's like. That's that's just not a thing. And I understand why it's the heirs to build suspense in whatever. But it's just it's patently ridiculous. When you have any understanding of how encryption works, but none of these things are likely to change. Sadly, so we'll have to continue living with them. Thank you though for sharing with me. And let's go to our last topic which comes from Rene. So I read with trepidation and interest. Mark zuckerberg's bed over the weekend. Because Facebook has been for me Italy such a train wreck fugitive style train where the train crashes, and you're running ahead of it. And it just keeps coming and you try to run off. And then it starts crashing off still following you. And you just you never think you're going to get away until you leap over the cliff and finally get to safety and he's for years. He's been doing this deflect deny dissemble sort of thing. And you know, the clean general was developers. Fall. We're gonna cut off to developer access. But we're gonna make a new dating service for you. It's always been this really weird thing. I couldn't help. But think as hearted reading it. What is he going to? How's it going to turn this to his advantage? How's he going to play that three d chess, and it was by sort of calling on regulation, but regulation that would absolve him of having to make any hard platform decisions? So it was left at the end not really thinking like, oh, we should give us had some sort of big revelation. Should we give him a nineteenth twentieth? I've lost count of how many chances in is at this point. Or is it really just so toxic that there's really nothing he can say at this point that will affect I think how you Facebook in general, and I was left on that sort of teetering on that edge. And I was just curious what you find folks lot about it. So we talk about it's harmful content selection, integrity privacy, and data portability. One of the most troubling parts for me was his talk about data portability because so right now he's talking about. How you go online and download your stuff from Instagram, and you can then upload those photos wherever you want. He says that he wants something that's more like Facebook, log in which immediately. I'm like, Nope. So that's yeah. That's a big no from me, you have one account, and it's Facebook. And that's how you log into absence ervices across the web, how about no never ever know election integrity, the thing that you talked about there was kind of. Yeah. So with election ads we Facebook doesn't really want to decide what an what an ad looks like and what an ad doesn't look like in terms of political ads. And so let's just have an independent body or maybe the government decide that. So that's him saying Facebook doesn't want to commit the resources to deciding what is and isn't a political ad, especially as political ads change. And we've got these, you know, non-campaign cycle ads that are out there. So let's take our. Legal responsibility out of the pot, and let's also take our sort of ethical responsibility out of the pot, and then be able to blame the government or the independent body. If they can't choose what if they can't decide like what a political ad is. And then on privacy. Plenty of good stuff there in terms of. Hey, you know, we need to be better about when someone is using Facebook or someone is using another service that their data. There is protected and it secure, and they can have access to it the real problem, which is something that actually Tim cook talked about in his little essay about the same kind of thing is the data that companies are collecting and creating about us. It's how we access the web across the web. And that's the big problem. It's those data brokers that have built sort of online versions of us where they know so much about us based on our behaviors and kind of conveniently doesn't touch on that and instead sort of it's like a magician where you've got one hand. And it's like look over here. Look over here. Meanwhile, the real problem or those data brokers so at the end of the day, I think this whole essay is just kind of like, we don't wanna be responsible. Let's have another. Body do this. And also we're going to continue to do the worst of what we do. And we really don't want you to focus on that. So I'm kind of two thumbs down. And if I had extra arms, I would throw those two about this a lean what are your thoughts? Let's see if I can talk about Facebook without cursing today. I want. I don't pay a lot of attention to what Zuckerberg does anymore because it's just meaningless what he does what he says. It doesn't mean anything Facebook is gonna Facebook. And when I hear him talk about where I see a read him writing about. Government stepping and putting in regulations who's going to be lobbying who's going to be working with congress or whoever is doing the first and second and third drafts of these bills. It's gonna be Facebook. And I just it just it just doesn't mean anything at all. And it's this company is so destructive. And I don't think that that Zakar knew what it would turn into in the responsibility that he would have an what a dumpster fire he was creating for the whole entire world. But the fact of the matter is he has done that I mad. I can hear it in my voice like he's done this. This is his fault. Because. Because he has just watched the world burn in enabled the rise of the outright. Like he has done this alternately. It's his responsibility board of directors, whatever. I don't care. He is still in charge of this company. And so when he says anything I oughta medically disbelieve it and don't pay attention to it. Because I know that Facebook's just going to keep doing what it's been doing. And that is collect data on me. My family members, sell it commodities us and also enable the people who are willing to spend time they're into create views and content, and whatever that radicalize is other people they're going to keep doing that. No matter what they say. So I just don't, you know? Whatever dude. Like, whatever your company is trash in this is that sorry. I'm actually gonna take the rare contrarian viewpoint here. I want to set aside for a second motivations because I agree with most of you that I think there's a heaping helping of self serving this in here that said we need government regulation of this. We absolutely great. We'll take face value. I understand all the caveats. They come with that. But the alternates is letting continue to run on check as they already are. And so whether Facebook finds a way to use the regulations, they get set up. Sure that seems pretty likely your concerns about lobbying all of that, you know, that seems pretty plausible. But none of that obviates the point that we do need oversight and regulation from bodies that are have the ability to actually Levy, punishments and things that companies have to adhere to. Has to be tried because otherwise we are just going to keep falling deeper into that. Well, and so whether it be privacy re regulations like GDP are stuff that the US put into place. On a more global scale in terms of privacy stuff for election monitoring. I think that Facebook there's a struggle here. Right. Because I don't agree. I don't think the Facebook should be being their responsibility here. But at a certain point their rules are the ones they're hearing that they've made up at this point. And that is a losing proposition for literally everybody, including Facebook, including us. And so having some other bodies set regulations and figure out like what are the things? These online services should be allowed to do. What are the punishments? If they do not correctly handle this kind of situation. I think Facebook's never going to solve this problem. As Burke says he's right about that. Facebook is limited in terms of technology and people only get so good. Nothing's perfect. You're gonna miss stuff. So I understand they wanna pass the buck to a different body and not have the. Ultimate responsibility for some of these things. That's obviously good for them. But I think at the same time it does beak to the point that we do need a bigger more comprehensive. You know, look at these types of services in the same way that we deal with any other type of service or company that could be harmful. I mean, we regulate tobacco. We regulate alcohol. We regulate drugs all of these things are potentially harmful and yet still have benefits if the right way, so why not treat online services and all your information and data why not treat it in the same way. Or at least give it the same respect that we give to those other things that are potentially harmful, but are still things that people use as we record this group just linked to Facebook demanding some new users Email passwords to. So I just I want to just add in that. I think that on top of regulation, there should be criminal prosecutions of you steal someone's day at you should face the same penalties if you steal their car. And I think when when a couple of these executives get thrown in even white collar prison for year or two it'll Grassley change this social landscape ho right, folks. Well, we have reached the end of another episode. But before we get there. We've got just enough time for a bonus topic and are bonus. It's brought to you by back. Blaze. The unlimited cloud backup for max PC's that starts at just six bucks a month. 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Clockwise 259: Like Android, But Prettier

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29:59 min | 2 years ago

Clockwise 259: Like Android, But Prettier

"It's two hundred fifty. Nine of the clockwise podcast from relay FM recorded Wednesday, September nineteenth, two thousand eighteen clockwise four people. Four TEK topics. Thirty minutes. Welcome back to clockwise. The only tech podcast with more complications than Apple's new watch face. I am one of your hosts, Mike sergeant, and I am joined across this very internet by my good pal and co host Dan Moore and Haydn. Hi, Mike, I guess our relationship is complicated. We can keep things simple by introducing our awesome guests. I'm so excited to my left is the founder and editor in chief of max stories as well as a very well known podcast or here on relay FM Federico vitucci. Thank you so much for joining us. Hi, thank you for having me. You make it sound so fischel and chief and fuck I. So yes, that's who I am. Thank you, Mike. It's great to be great to be back. It's my second time on clockwise. So is fun. Well, then now we, we've broken you in so so you should. You should know what you're doing now to my left is another returning guests. Community manager at Microsoft blog and the founder of AFC camp for girls. Jean McDonald. Thank you so much for being here. I'm really excited to be here. This week is such a cool busy week. There is talk about it. It's a busy week and we are going to launch right into things. You know how this works. We've got these guests. We've got these topics and I'm going to kick things off. I o s twelve has officially touchdown. I'm just curious name one feature that you think folks who haven't been running the beta all summer, although, you know, maybe them to will be excited about that are ego, we'll start with you. Okay. So just warm feature. All right. So this is this is difficult for me. I'm going to say that everybody, my friends who Don Reid, tech news, tech blogs, and listen to podcasts day always ask me, why is my iphone battery running low? And they struggled to identify exactly which kind of apps and which activties in those apps are. Consuming all the sweet sweet battery life. So I use twelve introduces new battery consumption charts that you can find after updating us twelve, you can go to settings and then battery. It's in the third section of settings. And once you open the battery screen, you let it load for like five seconds and you will see this new charts that they show you the battery level during the day. But also you can see the buttery lever for the past five days or for the past week. And that's an amazing tool, especially if you switch to the past week, you can see exactly which kind of absent which days and which time of day what they've been doing in the background or if maybe you'll be listening to too many podcasts. There's no such thing as too many podcast, maybe. So, yeah, this is pretty these great because you know, a lot of my friends are always come to me and say, can you check what's consuming my battery and what's going on? And now they actually have some pretty colored charts with tons of information. It's kind of like Android, but Previa I would say so, yeah, like Android, prettier is the motto of. The there are obviously Federal Way too many, but picking just one, I think are the new controls on do not disturb. So I always twelve adds the ability to trigger do not disturb and have it lasts only for a specified time and even links into your calendar. So for example, I can go and right now to control center, I can touch on the do not disturb button and get the option to do silence all my notifications until recording this guesses over, but you can also link it to a location which is pretty cool. So if you go to the movies and you don't wanna be bothered by notifications as you're sitting there and enjoying your film, you can also say until I leave this location, and that's a pretty handy feature for making sure that you don't get distracted by things and it's good for you know, cases like that where you don't want to bother other people, but it's also really good for occasions where you want to really like be present in the moment, right? Like, so if I go out to dinner with my fiancee, like I might use that so that we're not like distracted by our phones. We can actually have a nice conversation. So. It's another good example of how apple is helping us control our device us really giving us the tools to not have our lives dominated by technology. Following on that and not being dominated by technology is screen time which I admit I have not been running the beta all summer and I was going to wait until Friday to get my new phone to get twelve. But then you invited me to this podcast and I was like, okay, better. Just upgrade now. I did, and I was like actually made a big mistake which was to set up screen time and then forget that I had it set up an immediately. I was in slack Facebook, Twitter, micro blog, like I ruined my average right away. I should've like set it up right before I was going to do something really productive, but I didn't. I love that that you sort of once you make the change, you've got to go in and try to try to cheat the system. I'm a great person. That's fantastic. I would say that for me the feature that I think folks are going to be really excited about is something I've gotten five, six, seven, eight. I don't know several different, either screen shots are full on videos of people sharing their emoji. What's just found out when Tim cook was on some national news program that it's memo JR and not me MO Jia facing Moji forever. Anyway. Yeah. Yeah. He said memorial, what does he know. What isn't Tim cook now? So memorial emoji honestly, it's up to you, tomato tomato, but the memo, gee, I think, is going to be a feature that is going to be a thing that gets people to upgrade. So when I am trying to convince my mom, hey, you know, there's all these security things and your performance, no Abba emoji you can make your of emoji. Oh yeah, let's hop on it. So now I understand that you know, unless you have a device that supports memo g then you're not going to be able to get access to that feature, but for folks who do they'll want to hop on that train and be able to create their own little characters, avatars and talk to their friends about it. So definitely lots of excellent features. Let's move on to the second topic which comes from federal. All right. So also new and I twelve, even though you need to download it from the app store, it's the new shortcuts app and Charcot's the new version of workload which wasn't application that. Let you create these automations sort of automated on the MAC. And he came out in two thousand fourteen and apple body in two thousand seventeen. And now it's, it's been relaunched as shortcuts. I want to know if you all have prayed with workflow before that would be my first question. If you used to be worked for user and even if you weren't, are you playing turcotte's now and what kind of potential you see in shortcuts on our US while I was a workflow owner, I'm not sure. I was at work user. I played around with a little bit when it first came out, but it was never something that I really do into part of that was just I didn't have any really good applications for it to my mind, there weren't things that I was looking to do that I need to do more visually, but I was always impressed with how powerful a piece of software it is. And we sure cuts, I decided I was going to die back in again and actually try to build a or phone. So I built one the other night when the shortcuts that went out and it was actually pretty cool because I basically built a workflow that helps me. Catalogue, my expenses when I come back from a business trip, I'm always scanning receipts with my phone and putting them in dropbox, generating sort of labels for them that I can use in my tracking spreadsheet, and it'll be so great if I could just automate all of this and I managed to do a pretty good amount of it with shortcuts, and but it left me with this like weird conflicted feeling where I'm on the one hand amazed at how powerful shortcut is shortcuts is especially with access to things like running Java scripts or shell scripts. And at the same time, I want even more deeper integration with so many of the apps here because things like being able to say, alter my spreadsheet directly isn't really possible right now. And so basically I like this is great. I wanna see more more implementation from all the app developed from both apple and third parties to let me do more and more things with shortcuts because I think there is so much potential in automating these cumbersome tasks that we do with our devices all the. Time, so I'm bullish on it. I'm looking forward to giving it more of a try as time goes by, I have used workflows, but almost like stance as an owner, power user always interested and intrigued, but never taking the time to really figure something out until I would ask on Twitter, how can I get like the the HTML code in this webpage while I'm on IOS and they're like, well, there's a workflow you could use for that, and I'm like, oh, and that was really cool. And so I think you know, when you find yourself things that you don't really know how to do the the workflow groups, no away to get it done. Once I set up s. twelve my my phone, I made a workflow that just says asks, and it's a, it's a seri-. Control workflow where I can say, what's the temperature? 'cause that's what I pick up my phone and very often wanted. No. And so I also think that that will also decrease the number of times I pick up my phone, improving my screen time score. Right. I love. I love it. I love it so much. That's great because that was the one thing with screen time where I have anything else that was like I picked up my phone that many times today, so I'm gonna have to use that. I was not a huge workflow user. I think I did use a little bit more. I was certainly not a Federico level workflow user, but I would do some image scaling stuff and like screen shot fun with workflow. And now that shortcuts here, I'm pretty excited about it. I've played with a few that I didn't like anything that was in the gallery, but the things that I've seen online, the things that Federico you've shared, I. I just I still have that one that you shared that like involved. I think like turning the lights red and certain music, and all that was that was great. And I do wish that we could have an. I saw some discussion about this, but I do wish we could have some options to play things over the home pod or some other device that's in our house instead of just the phone. And I think that that's what would be my big thing because I love adding home kit scenes to love the idea of adding home kit scenes to shortcuts and to be able to like have a morning wakeup thing because I genuinely do when I wake up in the morning, I try to play a song and dance to it to get the day started. And so it'd be great to have like the lights turn on the song starts playing. I don't know the coffee pot starts what? What have you all of these things working together to sort of start my day. But the one other thing that I'll mention is how I'd hell. He'd, however you say the camera app, the very cool camera. They have an option to say to trigger the shutter of the camera app, and I think that's fantastic. You can have it across the room and even if you don't have an apple watch or something else to trigger the shutter button from far away, you can seize your voice to do so. So lots of awesome features a series shortcuts Federico. I know you don't have a million years to talk about it, but I'm curious to hear all of your thoughts. Again, this is very difficult. So the traditional way of putting together workflows. It hasn't changed much in shortcuts. So it's not that I'm not surprised, but my, I guess my excitement is outs where does twelve. In that, I really liked the ability to create shortcuts that allow you to put responses inside Siri. So the idea of creating these workflows in your seal these dragon drop editor where you can move actions around that kind of stuff. But I love the idea the now I can issue like a command to Siri and Siri will do stuff in the background, and then it will give me the response and this is new shortcuts wasn't possible we work for before. So I would say that I'm super excited about the seating today, shin, which are cuts, but also the fact that because it's an apple, you know, it's a, it's a apple app with some exclusive privileges. Now you have these actions for controlling the systems, stuff like do not disturb or turning on bluetooth, for example, that the workflow team couldn't couldn't build into the the old application. And so I'm playing with ideas like the latest crazy experimentation that I'm doing is I bought. The USB beacon becomes used to be like zeal years ago. I bought these tiny USB small Dongo. It's really, really tiny, and it's actually an IBM and I'm using launch center pro so that whenever I turn on the Cup, my car fires off these beacon and launch enter pro sends me vacation, this kind of nerdy, but then into fission, contains a link to open shortcuts and Rana shortcut. And some idea would be that I wanna get into my car and essentially I wanna launch shortcuts and show cuts. The will ask me, do you want to listen to music or do you on your podcast? So that's my angle. But I need to do some some scripting with like to turn off bluetooth. Otherwise my phone connects to the cars, bluetooth, which is terrible for the microphone. So these new actions allow me to just that. So. Way over my time limit. I'm sorry, but I'm super excited. Honestly, whatever you said can I talk about shortcuts? I can't wait. You. So I'm going to talk about those. We have reached half time of the show. Folks means it's time to tell you about our friends at squarespace. 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It's easy to get set up and scores based plans start at just twelve bucks a month, but you can sort of trial with no credit card required by going to squarespace dot com slash clockwise. Now, when you decide to sign up and use the offer code clockwise because that's going to get you ten percent off your first purchase of a website or domain, and you'll, of course we showing your support for our show at squarespace dot com. Slash clockwise with the code clockwise to get ten percent off your first purchase, squarespace, make your next move. Make your next website. All right. Let's go ahead. Move onto the second of the show, and this topic comes from Dan. So the homepage didn't get a lot of attention at the event last week, but it did get a little bit including a software update that came out this week, which adds multiple names, timers, the ability to find your iphone if you other things. So my question for you is if you are home pied owner, what are you still looking for? And if you haven't bought a home pied yet. What's missing that might convince you gene a free home pod coupon. Mclean. I am not somebody who is like super audio file type music listening person. And so little USB speakers that I have are are okay for most of my home listening. And honestly, I feel that by skipping the new watch and skipping the homepage on my new iphone is practically free. You have the best logic on the show today. I just give that award out. I've loved everything so far. Great logic. I, I like my home pod. It, it plays music plays it. Well, it's nice to have. I think that the one thing that I'd love is to have it be exactly as it is, but b wireless somehow, like be chargeable. So you set it on like a charging base most of the time, but in the rare, not rare occasion for me, but on the occasion that you want to take it to a different room, then you could do so very easily and maybe you can buy apple loves to sell peripherals. You can buy more than one charging base for it. So I would be a happy camper because I honestly constantly wanting to take it to different rooms with me and maybe I wanna hold it above my head outside someone's window and play music from it, you know? And I can't do that right now. Do I have a home pot? We, she's, I have three home butts in my. Hi of long of requests, Tim cook for you. So the first one is obvious. I just want to be more reliable to give an example. So all of our devices in our household because I need this four for work and my girlfriend, these patients enough to support me, all of our devices are set in English, and we have Siri in English. Last night. We were watching some television anytime of course, because we live in early and at some point series on the living room home by just says, okay, starts playing some years. Super creepy like what is going on. So. More reliability in terms of Siri, shoot beyond curated by just random words that are spoken on the TV in that are kind of similar to the to the hot phrase. The second one everybody talks about being able to set default apps on US might wish is kind of similar to that, but also different in that I want to be able to set default apps just for Siri so that when I talked to see, I want my default reminder app to be something like things, or I want my default podcast app to be overcast like, I don't want to actually change the US like safari mail and maps, that kind of stuff. I just want to be able to save a task core play podcast without having to say in things or in Omni folk, was that kind of stuff that you need to do Zuni so defaults for voice actions. That would be my second week. Those are good. I mind is kind of similar to. A reliability thing, which is we have this huge constellation of apple devices with Syria on it now, and I wish they were a little better at understanding which one I was talking to because all still have the problem where I tell Siri to open an app, and I might even be looking at my iphone which is like propped up on wireless charger and the home pod still be like, I'm sorry. I can't open up and I'm like, what was I talking to you. But yeah, I and I like Mike, your wireless thing, I didn't know. I wanted that until you said it now. I really wanted. So sorry, I would add to that on a hardware front. I would love more tactical, like real controls rather than just the touchscreen there because I find it less utilitarian. Then something like the Amazon echo in terms of like knowing volume buttons are being cloned it, yes, playing so annoyance. So apple, your designed got a little bit in the wave. Your function l. e. there. Thanks for your thoughts on that. Let us go to our final topic today, which comes from Jean. Okay. Well, as always the news of new apple products and especially new EPO, commercials tends to influence our non techie family members. So what do you need to teach your family about the new iphones? I o. s. twelve. So I think that the one thing that my family might be curious. Well, of course I'm going to have to show them how to set up memo g. But I think that you know, I need to teach them maybe about screen time and how that can be helpful. One thing that I- I lapsed on teaching them back when it came out was do not disturb driving, and I've kind of had a re emergence, I guess, like paid more attention to that now that we have these new do not disturb features. And because of that, I've been very bullish about do not disturb driving and trying to share that with as many people as possible. I think about my siblings who drive and who may try using their devices while they're driving, or you know, at stop, whatever. What have you. And I think that that is an awesome feature that can genuinely genuinely changed the way that you that you. That you do or don't pay attention to your devices while you're driving, if you give it an opportunity. So all of those new sort of like taking control of your device and sort of trying to focus your attention elsewhere, I think are great features in Iowa twelve. They're gonna make a difference. And then for the rest of my family, it would just be like, hey, you've got an older device. Go ahead and upgrade that too. This new operating system because Jinyan Lear, you're going. I think I've said genuinely about fifty two times now, but you will be happy with the performance improvements there. I'm going to sound obvious about any to to teach them about shortcuts. Not the shortcuts app though. I strongly feel like the basic see some shortcuts like the ones that you see suggested in settings, which is kind of confusing because everything is called the shortcut. But another shortcuts up that Stephanie's steal more for power user kind of audience, but the idea of you, you frequently visit the same website. And now he said, opening safari and typing the name of the website door topping icon. You can just record a short sui phrase and you can just say that, and you will go to that website of teaching them about this literal shortcuts that you can assign phrases to with Siri. I think you know a non techie audience can sort of get behind that. Because it's also ties in settings, advertising search. So the idea of if you use a different weather app anew, frequently open the forecasting that applications such as carrot or something else. Now that can be a shortcut so that you don't need to repeat these steps every day yourself. So I wouldn't. I wouldn't tell them go to the download the shortcuts up and my website installed shortcuts. I wouldn't do that because I'm not a terrible person, I think. But the system show system suggestions. I would totally try to sort of get them to understand the feature. I think for me, it would be maybe seem kind of minor, but I always ability to group notifications and change how they're delivered. I think it's a little subtle in terms of the way the access it because it's sort of like an unmarked button on the notifications, but it is cool to be able to change it to have stuff delivered quietly or to group things together. I mean, I think that people get overwhelmed by notifications very easily. And a lot of times we just sort of page through them without really thinking about, you know what? We're even looking at why we have such a day luge of these things, but the ability to control that more granular Lii and have the kind of ability to ignore the things that we want to ignore and to only get the really notified by the things that are truly important is a really nice improvement. And I think again with so many of the things that we've discussed once again, really puts us back in control of our technology. Those are. Those are great answers. You know, pretty much all of my answers. We'll say one thing I like to do chicken, especially with my dad. And before he, you know, he's called me from the Verizon store before and said, so I'm getting. I decided to upgrade to this thing that he doesn't need and by the success that he definitely doesn't need. And I would like to have, you know, in my wishlist features is like a geo fence, like my father's phone. I know when he's walked into a phone store and I can call him immediately and say, what are they selling you and don't buy it. That's fantastic. There's gotta be something there. Maybe with home kit, there's me or I mean it you can use Federico's. IB can to'real after that. That's fantastic. Well, I believe that means we've reached the end of another episode. 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Clockwise 299: We're All a Mess Together

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Clockwise 299: We're All a Mess Together

"It's time for so two hundred ninety nine of the clockwise podcast from relay FM recorded Wednesday, June nineteenth two thousand nineteen clockwise four people, four TEK topics thirty minutes. Welcome back to Parkway's. The tech podcast who's half our mission is to explore strange topics to seek out new people, and new technology, and who boldly go where no podcast has gone before. I am Dan Moore and I'm joined across this vast expanse of internet by my good friend and co host Mr. mica sergeant how're you doing today? Mike Phya phases. You're on brand. I like it. That's what I wanted to hear. I love that intro. That was like the best intro. We've had. So for nine. For ninety minutes. Right steel for Georgia Dow back on disruptions. I think you did. There's already controversy happening. Well, we'll take back. This is, of course, the show where we talk about four TEK topics with two fantastic. Guests to my left. It is a software engineer and a candidate for the US house of representatives in my home Commonwealth of Massachusetts. It's brianna Wu Highbury. What's crackle Akkad twelve? I did. I did just keep it at retro. Keep retro to my left is editor at mex- stories and club. Mac stories, the co host of apps stories dot net and the dialogue podcast, it is John voorhees. Hello, john. Hey, everybody. Great to be here. Great to have you. All right. Let's get this run under way because it is a show that goes only thirty minutes. My question for you today is, how do you folks deal with large stores of data files? Do you try to trust everything to say your internal storage on a computer to hang a bunch of external drives off of it to use a network, attached store device? Did you just upload everything in the cloud? What is your strategy for dealing with your, your gigantic collections of digital data that I assume we all have breathe, you wanna kick us off here? So I could tell you what not to use. I spent a lot of my on a Symantec NAS. It was the wire cutters. Top choice for this. And I read that wire cutters generally solid. I bought it, it has been absolute disaster. I really regret investing thousand dollars into the system followed every single solution every single bit of documentation, and my time machine just constantly failed. So what I end up having is a like NAS in my basement, that I can force connect every, like three or four months to get time machine backup, it's a terrible system and I need to upgrade it immediately. So I hope people have better suggestions than that. I have big pockets. And those big. But no, for me at breath, had the same problem with network attached storage aware when I tried to time machine backups to constantly fail. It won't stay back up. I don't know what happens. There's like disconnections. I don't know. So when I do time machine stuff I just do that from a USB. See or other USB three point zero drive that I have connected manually, I do have network attached storage, which is where most of my files go. I just don't do any backing up to it. I'm kind of horrible when it comes to organization of those files that I have. And so I just. A running junk drawer of stuff that after I'm done using it. It just gets kicked over into my, my network attached storage, and then everything else goes into dropbox. I've seen a lot of people recently trying to make the switch from dropbox to other things. I'm still firmly stuck in the dropbox camp despite having two terabytes of I cloud drives towards just really don't use so. Yeah, between big pockets network attached storage, and dropbox. I think I think there's sub sort of solution in their John. Do you have like an all encompassing solution forest? Let's hear it. You know, I really don't. I, I have a similar situation to both of you. You know, one thing that I guess I try to do though is when I buy a new, computer, I try to get as much internal storage as I can because it's just faster and easier to manage. So when I got a new MAC mini in March, I got a one terabyte SSD and which was about. I mean you can go bigger than that, but it gets super expensive very, very fast and one terabytes a pretty good size for me for what I do. So right now, that thing is out seventy seventy five percent. Full, I'd say, and I'm starting to think about what am I going to do? What am I gonna do when that gets into the AD ninety percent range where you start seeing weird things happening with MAC OS? So I'm thinking about adding onto it probably another terabyte to two terabytes of external storage. Hopefully fast ST's just hanging off the back using USB three that's you know, things like then I can move things off the. Internal drive like logic projects for when I'm editing podcast and those kinds of larger files that generate in terms of things like time machine, I have a separate just spinning hard-drive hanging off of a router that, that works in both fingers crossed. It's been pretty solid for me, so far. How about you, Dan? What I'm hearing is we're all a mess together. That's that's good. I know my dilemma actually came about because his listeners of probably when my other podcast will no I had a MAC mini the died, and that was sort of my file server, and so I've been trying to figure out a way to replace that. And whether I need to get another mini or whether I need to invest in a network, attached, storage, vice just to store like big media files, like you John logic projects, that's a big one that takes a lot of space, and my MAC, simply doesn't have the internal storage for it. But I actually had put a two terabyte like SSD into that Mak mini like before. It's like, well, new ones, you can't even put more storage, and like you said, you gotta buy it ahead of time and it gets pricey pretty quick. So yeah, I'm kinda still dilemma. And the answer is, none of you had a surefire solution for me. But now I have a lot more options to look at. So I suppose that's good. I can spend some more time doing research. Thanks for your thoughts on that. Let us go to our second topic today, which comes from Bree. So this is a really serious topic. Everybody Facebook announced this week that they're going to be putting out, basically their own cryptocurrency payment system within Facebook. They've partnered with a lot of us. Civil early morally challenged companies like Uber and the goal here is basically for Facebook to create its own alternative currency for people to use the pretext forward is for to facilitate payments between countries. There's downside with it out comeback to love to hear everyone else's thoughts on that. I so mica. How do you feel about Facebook's? Cryptocurrency plans. Yeah. So I of got pinged this question by family members and friends and things. And I I've got I've got just absolute Facebook skepticism and what I've noticed is that, that has made its way into more of the general public my youngest, brother. He's know he's, he's a gamer, and he's, he knows how to fix an iphone, but he's not as techy as I am. And so hearing him say, yeah. I don't really trust Facebook and tell me more about, like what's, what this privacy stuff that's going on was a really interesting moment for me. Because for me that was kind of an introduction to the fact that everyday folks are also becoming skeptical of this company and the things that they do on the whole, I don't understand. Crypto currency that well. And so I'm approaching just from the perspective of having. Thing just massive amounts of mistrust about Facebook. I have deleted my Facebook account like I don't know, many months ago, and the company, frankly, gives me a bit of a sour stomach. So when I heard, they're launching cryptocurrency, I said, I don't want to have anything to do with that. And in terms of the, the power that this company has when it comes to elections. That especially is scary to me. Because now we've got a cryptocurrency and one of the main things they talk about cryptocurrencies is that it's untraceable and it's this and it's that. And so you tie like having a very easy ability to buy ads on the site to these, these foreign actors and things like that, and it's all just bad. I don't like it. I'm not not happy about it. And, and I I'm concerned that Facebook is going to run away with yet another thing that we will find out in the end is, is not a good idea. John, what are your thoughts? I'm no fan of Facebook either. But I think that there's maybe even a bigger story here, which is that, you know, this is really like a new kind of old fashioned money, because unlike something like bitcoin, which is a speculative crypto currency, this is going to be asset-backed kind of like dollars and that sort of thing, and it's going to be turned over to a non. Profit in any year, I guess, and it's a nonprofit that's made up of a bunch of corporations. And when you think about it, what's really, you know, currency is really one of the things that is a pillar of any government around the world. And to turn that over to a group of corporations, who are not elected officials really bothers me. And I think that, you know, for me. I certainly don't trust Facebook, but I really don't trust any company to have that sort of power. I think that those are the kind of things that really as many problems as there are with our government and others around the world right now. I'd, I'd prefer to have elected officials dealing with my money than a corporation. That's looking out for its shareholders. John, you Neil my thoughts, exactly. I don't understand why anybody would turn currency over to a group of private corporations that there's no accountability. You know, that makes very little sense to me. I can see totally why benefits all of those corporations. What I can't see is what had been. It's just the average people. I think we're, we're totally likely to get the shaft on that. And I think it's, it's just to me, feels very transparent in terms of as much as Facebook claims, they will divest themselves from this organization to me that just totally smacks of, like we are creating something that we think will make us a lot of money because we think not only will we have some say in how it is run. But, you know, it will be used for buying stuff from us. And that's the big question in terms of whether it will get any adoption whatsoever is, whether it's broad enough to be useful. I am very skeptical of cryptocurrency in general. I think the technology has a lot of promise, but I think the kind of the speculative angle, John was saying in terms of how people have played that as a market, I think is very risky. And one of those things that there is a bubble that's kind of popped already on that. And I yeah, I think my feeling comes too much like Mike. I'm very skeptical of Facebook in general and I'm very skeptical of turning over currency. The only thing worse than currency on regular by your government is occurrence, but corporations. Yeah. Stick to that Bree. What do you have what her doom and gloom? Do you have for us here? I, I hate sound negative on this, but I think it's even more serious than y'all have said damn what town in Massachusetts. You live in again. I live in summerville Somerville's going to be fine. But this run for office here in Massachusetts. A lot of town south of Boston are dealing with an eroding tax bases. The simple fact is property taxes are becoming higher and higher percentage of people's revenue. We see stories like Amazon, not having to pay any federal taxes. I want you to take a second and reflect on how much worse that's going to be if, like Facebook and Uber and other companies are using their own private currency to Biden's when you're trusting them to report their earnings. There's no oversight. Imagine a Facebook, the scandal where we found out political ads were paid with by rubles. Well, what happens when anyone from anywhere can go and buy this cryptocurrency and buy anything with it? It just absolutely shreds, the ability of anyone external to Facebook to conduct oversight another thing that really, really should concern people is I've been a proponent for a long time for limited integration, bitcoin into our monetary system. I think it's fine for that to be certain. Portion of the financial conomy. I don't have an issue with that. But the advantage to that is, is a decentralized currency, the way Facebook is doing it. Not anyone can mind only Facebook's partners that they choose can mine, and use the public ledger to write these transactions down, so Facebook and it's chosen partners are controlling everything about the money supply everything about what gets recorded there's just so many ways that this can go wrong. And I personally think this is kind of problem. I'm very well suited to address when I'm serving in the house of representatives. I like that. Ironically, this is the one place that Facebook would actually care about privacy. It's just there. All right. 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All right. Halftime is over mica take it away. All right. So you to has just launched a new augmented reality beauty triumph feature. So the way this works is while you're watching like a makeup tutorial on YouTube. You the cr-. Creator can set up a little thing that says, okay? I wanna make these make-up's available to the person watching. And then while you're watching on whatever device, you have that supports minted reality, you can actually try on those different make-up's. This is one example of several different types of a our triumph features have been glasses, companies let you try glasses furniture companies that let you sort of drop furniture in your house, and see how it looks I'm curious for what have you ever used any of these features before. And do you find that this is a gimmick or could it actually be useful, either now or as a are continues to improve John? We'll start with you. I do find it useful, I haven't had a lot of experience with it. But I did buy some Worby Pirker glasses this way. And I had some of their glasses in the past and done their home triumph thing where they send you a bunch of samples. You try you figure out what you want to buy, and then you send back. Samples while I was looking to get a new set of frames and the frames that I was interested in. They didn't have for try on, I think, because it was just a new frame that was popular. So I tried to try on and looked surprised only close to what I out alternately ended up bind the thing that made the most difference, I guess, to me, was that it gave me a good sense for the size of the frames on my face. Because, you know, it's, it's never fun to end up with a pair of glasses. That's either like looks a little too small for your head or too big. And these look just right. And it worked out really well, so I was really happy with it. That said, though, I haven't really ever done anything like tried on clothes or or furniture. And in my home or anything like that. Yeah. The only time I've used something kind of like this was several years ago. I was buying new TV at the time video had like an app where you could print out like a QR, code, and slap it on, like your wall, and it would put an AR TVs at there, and you can figure out what the right size was for the space and it was kinda Janke, because that was like several years. At this point, but I liked the idea because it gave me like, wow. Okay. Is this kind of fit on the sand? I already have is gonna look huge in the room. Is it going to be too small, the same sort of thing? I think that's there's a lot of benefit to that. I've played around a little bit with the Ikya one two, which was much better than I remember when I first moved into my apartment, I was trying to figure out what size couch. And so, I would like get out a bunch of newspaper and put it on the floor and measure out like the footprint of the couch, that I was thinking about. No. Yeah. Okay. So that's sort of fits in the space, certainly better than that. But I think that there's, I think has gotten a lot better. I think this is useful for a variety features. I'm kind of curious to know how well it works for some things, you know, if I were buying a suit, or something, for example, I'm not sure that would give me currently would give me quite the level precision, that I'd be looking at for that sort of thing for me to really trust it. But yeah, I can imagine like a pair of glasses or a hat or make up. I think all those things are, are much more doable right now. And I think there's, there's definitely a gimmick aspect to it. But I think it also has its uses as well pre what about you? Yeah. I'd have to agree with that. I don't think it's gimmicky I did roll my eyes a little bit WWE when they were talking about this treating like a panacea for poor sales, or things like that. Or like I'll just integrate this just a few clicks, and I'm like, do you have any idea how much work is involved with three D asset creation, like the something I do know a lot about. So I sometimes worry that the way it's been market. Edged developers as a little bit overblown. But like my you'd mentioned makeup tutorials. I would absolutely love something like this to be integrated with that. So I think it has a future just would you know, things it's always over hyped the practicality of it. They're going to be some cases where choose fault. But it's not gonna change the world. Especially agree with that last part there. Good answers all around. In fact, I have used the try on for glasses before and found that a little bit helpful because depending on the frames. They might stick out a little bit more. They might be too thin for my face. What have you? And so being able to get a little bit of a better look into that is nice. I think one of the places where I've found it most helpful is with, like wall art or things that go on the wall, like a planning for hanging. My television on a wall. Mount was very nice work at AR stick that to my wall and see kind of where I wanted to place how much space it was gonna take up. I do think that this is going to continue to get better. I mean even before we had the new air magic that we've had Snapchat was very good at doing facial feature stuff. And so, yeah, I like the idea that you can. Try out some new foundations or shadow before you actually buy them to see how they look on your skin tone, and things like that is very helpful. Particularly when you have companies that are maybe not taking other skin tones into factor when it comes to make up. So there's some good here. And I hope that we continue to see improvements with this form of a because this seems to be the one. That's this type is pitched to the masses more so than than any other, it seems if being IKEA was one of the first ones that was like, yes. Put a couch in your living room, when in a are so, yeah, it's, it's interesting. And let's go ahead and move onto our last topic, which comes from John, right? There was a ton of stuff that was announced this year, w it went lightning fast. And there was just heaps and heaps of new information technologies and things announced, but I'd like to know. No. What do you expect have the biggest impact on, you personally of the things now nst and what you think will have the biggest impact on apple itself, from the things that were announced? I think the first two to small things I think that will have huge impacts on me. The reminders apres design I already used reminders a lot. But I think it's just a really clunky app, and I'm glad to see they've taken sort of a whole overhaul of it. I think that will streamline a bunch of the stuff I do every day and then the swipe typing I'm really excited about sleeping. I was walking down the street trying to text my fiance the other day, and I was like typing do my to hand to typing as I walked down the street and kept miss, typing everything so much easier. If I could just do the swipe typing thing. So I'm really looking forward to that for for my personal productivity in terms of apple for the long term. I think it's hard. I'm really interested the impact of signing with apple. I think that is potentially a huge game changer, not only because it is something that customers want. And it's something that. Hasn't really been tried before. But also because strategically, it's all about denying information to Apple's competitors, which thrive on collecting personal data about people. So if apple can provide an experience, that is streamlined and easy, and doesn't require you to share any personal information than not only is that great for us because we can use it. But it's also bad for Facebook and Google because people will use the apple version, instead in many cases. So I think that is potentially a really big game changer for apple and I'm really looking forward to not having to type in my Email or a bunch of places anymore. Definitely took mine. Dan, signed an without, you know, I say I have in rang for office, I've really gotten to state a lot more about cybersecurity and have really been shown some, some terrifying ways the information that's out there can be misused by bad actors by hackers by phishing attempts. I think this is such an important feature. Not just for the people using it, but for the national security, the United States, I was I was a little frustrated on Twitter when this was announced and a lot of apple fans were like, yes, step forward. This is something that is good overall and you had at least I had a lot of people being like no, you shouldn't like be an apples walled garden. And one company, kicked control all of that. Sometimes we need to make peace with a ninety percent solution instead of one hundred percent solution like you're not gonna get normal people to make burner emails every single time they have a sign on. So I think this is a pretty good solution in. I think it is just a huge step forward. So I'm excited to see how many app developers end up implementing this and frankly, I hope the rest of the industry will follow an offering these kind of alternatives. So in terms of what will impa-. Packed me. I, I talked about this. I think several replaces I'm just really pumped that audio and media playing options have come to automation 's. So now when I create like my, good morning seen I can not only have the lights, turn on and the coffee pot start and the dog feeder feed the dogs, but I can also have, you know, my favorite beyond say songs start playing which before I would have to make happen by touching. My phone like some kind of animal now at all happens automatically, which, which I think is going to be fun to sort of work media into some of those automate. It's the same thing with the apple TV, you can set it, so that it not only turns on apple TV, but then launches an app on your apple TV based on what's actually there that you've installed. So that's going to be personally lot of fun. And. Will it has already impacted me immediately because I have been plagued with those features in terms of apple. I do think that single sign on is the big one, but I'm gonna go with another one that I think will impact apple and that is swift, you I based solely on the developer response at WBZ proper and are at the keynote proper. And then again when I was watching the state of the union, the excitement that continued to, to happen, there apple has made some big improvements in X code swift itself. And of course, now we have fifty why people are pumped about this. And I think that the way that it impacts apple is a way that apple has always been impacted. And that's by these third party, developers who create incredible apps and services for these devices that we use every day. So more people creating more awesome. Stuff is always a good thing for apple. John, any thoughts on that shirt? You know, I'm gonna go really mundane personally, which is the files apple because the change of the files are the kind of things that impact me every single day. I find myself are too frequently to this manage files move them from folder to folder access them do whatever with them on IRS and just getting frustrated and going to my MAC. And I think the changes to files are going to make a big difference in kind of my daily work and on for apple. I'd go with swift, you, I too, because you know what this enables is faster iterating by developers on developing, you is or absol- work across all of Apple's hardware, think, in the long term, it's gonna take a little while for this to kind of a shakeout into be adopted, but there's a lot of excitement around as you said, Mike, and I think in the long run, it is going to make a huge difference who developer adoption of. All of the apple platforms. Excellent answers all around that is four topics, we have just in time for a bonus topic really quick. Tell me if there is a book movie TV show game album. Whatever piece of media that you're really looking forward to this summer Bree, come on sky. They expand season season for coming out super pump for that, that's for me, Melissa mcphail. She writes, the pattern of lighten pattern of shadow, and light series, and the last and final book. The sixth strand is out, but later, it will be released on audible with Nick poodle, narrating it, and I can't wait for it to come out. I can't wait to finish off the series Spiderman far from home. I got my tickets weeks ago. And I'm ready to go fourth of July weekend. Nice I'm really looking forward to the network stars doing an adaptation of a book. I loved called the rook, which is sort of a supernatural thriller. I'm really excited that which comes out, I think at the end of June. So that's a lot of great tips for all of you out there for things to watch out for, but that. Rings us to the end of our show and all that remains is to thank our fantastic guests this week, brianna Wu. Thank you so much for being here. It's a pleasure and John voorhees. Thank you so much for joining us. Thanks so much for having me and Mike. We must boldly keep going onto next week. But until then let us remind everyone out there watch what you say and keep watching the clock by everybody.

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And say, well, I'm glad we're talking about more hilarious things than the situation we're in now rex after I don't think we're in a bad of a situation man I think people really need to get up and vote one get ready for a fight to because early Ami Tony and politically spiritually more soda physically because I'm thinking that I, mean there's GonNa be some little put man let's shift for Real Mendis prow boys whatever they WANNA call themselves. But people upset about the bid shutouts at them last night like this like this. You can't call them Negro. Kanye. Negro wipe it. Cracker is over there inciting in them and everything but come off probably just had a big ASS rally. They were talking about they're gonNA be ten thousand people there and it was maybe one hundred, fifty like they don't have. You know what I mean they is done they may not have an number, but you do have it in psychotic so do but. I mean it only takes one person to go. Crazy. But it also takes one person to shut that one person down. You know I mean I believe in the power blackness on the strength of our ancestors. So you know what I mean I try to worry about you know these practices out here with these dumb ass I be is. Due to stay no I, just wanted to do a podcast and don't anybody still my idea but I wanna do. What's wrong with White Man You know what's wrong with? You know just really sit there and each week just ask some white person like what's wrong with? You know what? I mean. Let's get to the bottom of this. Let's fix it because I want to know about them. I don't WanNa know 'cause we don't care because I know a lot of you know concerns are legitimate and just nonsense but you know some of them have real concerns and stuff and some of them you just need to be educated. You know that same people really need to be sat down and really explain in because they are learning from the wrong source. They don't have a good grasp of history of knowledge of anything. I'm. Not Educating Anybody I've exited that industry I'm not twitter, but I'll do it on. What's wrong with white. Okay. Man Speaking of a podcast, we are on this. The four nerd show are talking about Geek pop culture and. We have some news though that some stuff that dropped in the last couple of days you. Miss Marvel. That's exciting and it's a newcomer. Beautiful Yeah, the young lady's name. Miss Novel being written by Lee. And for those who don't know Miss Marble also known as Kamla Khan is a Pakistani American team based in New Jersey serve and we're finally getting the. was trying to say the live action version. This is GONNA be fire. They have said that that you know as we know last week, we talked about how Thomas Lonnie is GonNa be she hulk? Sam L. Jackson's getting his own series like Disney plus putting in work in work and they've already confirmed that especially. Kamala. They've said about pretty much everybody but camale especially your door to be going back and forth from. MC. You into the Disney plus series. So she's already set for the big screen as well. Yeah and if y'all have it played a new marble of interest dame yet you know I it's not the greatest game ever anything but I also my God. How to use Miss Marvel in that story told with her. I mean I can't lie. I. Dug. Out of. It wasn't my spiderman while. You know but it was a little bit of like. You know. I love your. Yeah no I mean I can't lie. They tell a great story in that of interesting with her and it really just get behind. You know getting people use it to care if you're GONNA be able to see her so. Once. If I ever get a PS five, I'll be joining you. Unless unless there's some cross platform play available maybe I could do it up on steam but I don't think. I'm getting a PS five anytime soon. I mean of interest is still for four no I know. But I don't have a playstation right now. You're waiting for the new. Yeah Yeah. That's out right now. Hasn't come through. No No. Oh. Sixty four has not come through. The last the last thing he tweeted about it, it was for military only so I'm not in that God man. With now. I mean every I WANNA see what his affiliate, how much money he'd been getting. 'cause my God. Lord off. Armed Forces on locked? Yeah. He got everybody I saw. Also, in in in the kind of the vein of Marvel, they're all connected to a tiny hoc-. Coats. Releases tribute to beautiful tribute also to Chabert those today Be Able to find the and I. Think Every Marvel Comic Book published this week. I'll really seen it on a bunch of covers. There's a you know like Chabert Bozeman. Being on all the covers think sweet. So it's really Nice Marvel did and it should be you know, Tallahassee that's my brother man if you Oughta know. H You know we've had him on a two episodes already and y'all can go this incident, but I actually talked to him tonight I mean Chad. Would pass that. We are both just like I. Think he was one of the few who actually knew about the cancer beforehand career. Roy Close. Chadwick. Only. I'm not sure you know don't don't quote me on that because it's like like I say Chadwick is very tight with Tana House the Another friend of Mine Camilla another friend of mine only really tight with them. So. But I, mean I don't even know how much they knew because it's just you know he kept everything very close but China Hoc- knew him very well like I said, I didn't know Chadwick nearly as well as todd I know top a lot better on new Chadwick Eitan know what I mean like but yeah it I mean he's wanting to greatest riders you know to have and. Happy to do that for him really moving. So definitely check that out. It's also on our social you WANNA check on our time line. You can also that came out the sequel trailer for the Craft Legacy. it's up. Now I had initially thought it was reboot it's not it's a sequel which is claiming a continuation of the original craft story. I'm not the target audience and you know I'm not gonNA speak as if I am the issue I have though with it is understood that it's A sequel. However, we couldn't get creative with the casting. We couldn't get creative with the story I'm at least based on what I see from the what I'm reading about it rewrote girls WANNA black girl. Yeah Now off actually heard that one of the actors is one of the actors is a translating necks. A Trans Woman that's next actor so I don't. Like. For All the actors they like I said I don't know if there's some underlying representation just aren't clear of, but the way that they presented it to me, they just made like a remake so but then they're like, no, no, no this is continuing story as you as you watch the trailer I one point, one of the characters picks up a picture. Of Nancy who was she ended up by flipping out she was I. don't know if you remember watching the craft then but she was the one that ended up getting real powerful and flipping out and they had the behind her at the end because she she all the power went ahead but it's a it's a and I see that allowed people who have. We got really mixed reviews from people who saw it on our timeline half y'all was just like IOS, classic Y Y touch it. was just like, Oh, you this might be cool. The updating it. I'm also of the mind like it looks very giving me very one tree hill CWC's is corny. So I don't know remind me this is the crack the one where like the three sisters find out that they have another half sister. Like is that the pilot because I've read a script and I feel like they already did a craft remake. Because I made I have no idea. But the craft was was really about basically three outcasts girls who? who were friends and they're practicing witchcraft on the side, and then a fourth girl comes into town she up being part of their coven but then. Egos and other shake getting away things go wrong people take their powers too far. CETERA are. People die. Obviously I. Think this is something else that I read I can't remember exactly but I read something light there's already strips on the but. I've only seen the original like maybe bits and pieces on cable on a Sunday afternoon. So that's about it for me. So it is like I said but I also like it's four, the movies also really aimed at teen girls so and I think that's important to note like. Ads were critiquing trailers or whatever is also thinking about who's the target audience, right? It was it was clearly not for you. Then Don Oh this is trash, but it's just like well, it's not for your demo. Alone, I never understand people who do that when they're. You know it's like this is obviously not for you like the craft is not for me to I was over me really in. Such, Eichel Villa stood up big it up I rate on like even that stripped I can't remember what it was basically like young teen girls in magic and I liked the script but I didn't want to watch the show, but this is solid i. Wanted to watch it, they love it. Well, the crash has always been a cult classic for me so. I will get this. I'm going to give it a chance like it could go either way it. Did give me a little bit watered down. T's but we'll see what happens. uh-huh. Now, something that I am height for. Who is Friday night votes October second before all nerds are hosting a live tweet watch party with the one and only twins speaks s right Vita Iowa and then nor will join us. Beat Danny. Loved. Them. Danny since they were just raw working at forbidden planet that's been a homey since then I didn't even know they were right or like that you know we just always used to chop it up. So it's so ill to see them. All right. We talked about that. So ill to seat him on his next level. Now because I've known Dana since then I've been a fan of Vita since pretty much since I am I heard their name so. Yes, we are doing a live watch party of the new film Vampires. Bronx. Excuse me. which debuts on Friday on Netflix. So Friday night October second at nine PM Eastern Standard Time. Tune. In to your nets, let's turn it on startup vampires at the Bronx. We're GONNA come up with the Hashtag for this. You know all that good stuff. Make sure you're following our socials. The CAST is very interesting as besides I see Sarah Gadsden Chris read the Kid Mero Oh God as. Marrow. So high. So you know he's GonNa be flipping out method man is in this tool. They. Okay. All women are tuning in now 'cause method man got going. On power to you know are you? I seen the clip? I'm sure you did. Over. there. Yeah. I'm a man working out I was like okay. I. Mean I'M I celebrate don't hate. All. 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Say It was devil doll situation happening or you remember the devil is in the book but me she talked about how she used one or two episodes to do a nightmare on elm street and comment on how to fetch Jumblatt girls. Already. Nightmare should just always been one of my. It was like the first horror movie that I could get into our shook as a kid I was people none of them and my mans like now you gotTa See Freddy He wild funny and so I, and then when I saw him and he was found in people's he was killing them. Never, into her, it's still not bow. Graph. So funny could we talk about how? People, always think that I'm not and what it is I'm not into Gore and I'm not gonNA torture like those cyber babies. offie yeah. Yeah I'm in the Gore actually I'm not gonNa Torture Gore I'm into like Creature Gore transfer Mation Gore all that type of stuff and even a you know a will executed hilarious Jason or Freddie Kill I'm definitely to no matter how gory like does it more Freddie where my man who she's dudes head into the wall and it makes like an imprint of his face. Gosh. It was so hilarious I'm not into any of that at Oh, my God I've been. I'm not into any of that. But I do like the weird ones like the ones that kind of straddle things like I did at least the I saw that was there but I, like, saw autumn I love I love things like final destination. That not a big fan of that either. Join on one, say it was on Netflix is a Spanish movie from Spain about is probably the bar and I won't give away any more than that. style girl put me up onto shutouts and it is. It's a real horror thriller joint and I love you know I mean. So yeah, I just don't like tour I don't like seeing people getting tortured. That's something I can't remember you had a problem with What's his name in huge? Was His name in a game of thrones was doing that. Ramsey. Doing implore wreak. Yeah. No I was not a fan when we did castle black I literally fast forward brewlights so much of that season. 'cause I already seen it and I was not sitting there watching anytime. He appeared brain 's it. You know. It's amazing. Even sausage. We know he got a dolls I rewound that Utah's. Well deserve. Yes. All right to have a random geat stuff right there and actually no, it's not enough because we have some more coming up in one of my favorite segments always. Extra. Ask questions. GUAC IS ED. Stra. Were we answer any and all listener questions? All you gotta do is hit us up contact at four owner's com or hit us on the twitter's on the INSTAGRAM's at four. All nerds. And astras anything really. I won't say I got a limited because people are asking and we'll see tonight you know I. Asked. What one? That's say, okay yes. What do we have a first a first comes from pitcher me Roland. Aka Black. Panther O. K.. Aka should night nurse. That's funny. Should night nurse. Great Yeah. That's that's good. Good job. Aka Memphis Bleaker Street. Members bleakest street magician. Okay this is another you doin. At into much. Much mustard. Mustard on the glitzy this I do agree I do agree Memphis Bleaker Street. Play we just left it there. Because I who knows it as a bleaker street magician I didn't. I'm sure someone will tell us. Whatever? Aka Han Dolo everybody's used that. Okay. Here's a new one. Week Aka Silk. Should. Not Man. Zach. Okay. I'm not mad about it but the best one was should nightmares sure my nurses the winner out out of that one? Yes. All right. The question goes since four on their shows. Excuse me since for all NERD. Stroz love to the fans of e culture I just WanNa know who's the first person you fanned or geeked out for upon meeting them who was the first person that you did that for and who is someone? You know you're GONNA be excited to see you ever meet them and also who's who's the first person you did it for who's last person you did that for and who is someone who could be excited to see? Okay We were just talking about this earlier I personally I think I I was on another podcast I guess another podcast and I will answer the same way answer to them. I don't get star struck like that. There's only two people in this world that. We're in this world that can make me do that, and that's either beyond say or Michael Jackson. I've been writing should be onset. You what I've been writing this a few times. Gosh Yeah. He's town going handed her a CD. Once I ended DJ MIX CD issues separatist love in Houston. I. Mean I get like I'm happy to meet everybody. There's they have faves but I'm probably won't geek out on anybody. I and I never get that on anybody no I'm not like that but the first time oversaw beyond San Person I've told this story before his was in a gallery at Houston and she's sitting there with I'm with my mom and we're at Chili's, and she's at chick fillet beyond say is like which is right next to it. And she sitting there with these two white dudes who like punk rockers. And I could not figure out who she was at first, but I'll just sitting there like flabbergasted at how beautiful this woman was. Like Oh my God, and then later on, we're walking through the mall and she's walking with Kelly and Salange and that's when I was like Oh this must be destiny shabby. This is like. End of Destiny Shaab Yossi. Okay. Very end of it. Yeah and I was just sitting there stunned at this woman. Is there someone you know you're going to be excited like I'm always excited to see all of our guests. But not to like I'm hyperventilating type of thing I have a whole nother story but for the first one ever, I'd have to say it was when I met Dj Premier and I screamed like Did you really Bright This is a long story short, but a regular order was a record store in Houston sound waves he used to work there. Everyone is sound way as new is the biggest fan when he was just isn't in them and I walked in the door and managed like Oh look over there. May Ask screamed out owes. Light. Screamed right. So for the next two years I graduated every time I walk into a store everyone there would turn scream out. You Syria's yes. That's kind of cool. Kind of embarrassing. I was. Mad At stories instead air. But yet, that's when I saw that DJ premieres I. My main reason for being a DJ and so when I saw him I just oh wow. That's Six years old you know I've been detained for like a couple of months and God Watson Yeah. So I was I screamed like of God awful. Cute yeah, the last person I can't remember I. Remember this was when you were here for was when DMC came onto our show. Oh. Yeah Yeah. Yeah and that one was just I. Remember he was the combat recipes and that's door and DMC Watson and I'm like Oh what the fuck it a DMC rotten ignore you know what I mean. But. I didn't bug out. We did the interview you know killed it so. Yeah I. Mean it was. Maybe I don't know maybe because I'm I'm usually kind of subdued him. I reactions anyway I'm just like, Hey, what's up and that could be incredibly excited but I'm still like hey. I never got to meet Prince who are two. Prints, I would have a problem to see I would have to check myself because I know you'll like that so we need to relax relax but I'll. Doors greatest song ever made. As all I gotta say Fam- you know. Press you gotTA BE Cool about it like he will be walking out of the way as APPS. And like I said, I've been to be say I've been writing. It's Jay and I know people who OJ very well. So that's why. I've talked to. I've talked to. I've talked I sat in a room with Andrea and sat told him. You know that he was my favorite person ever. Star face you know. At this point of the people I've met already who would really blow my mind. The I've already met them and been like, Yo. Your Shit. You know like I was telling you before the show I got to meet Biggie Magadishu and tell them you're. Oh I just realized that you know why? Because I think I I did in fact have heart palpitations but I got it together because I had to interview her when I interviewed Mae Jemison to years. Mae. Jemison is one of my heroes like literally since I've been in middle school elementary school like I wanted to be an astronaut she she's she doesn't astronauts Dr all about engineering all about space like she was on fucking Star Trek like bats that she was wasn't still is the epitome of everything I wanted to be when it came to just being the the the smart girl, the girl who was into that type stuff. So to me her that was absolutely a dream come true. I was maybe I didn't think of it to answer this question because again, our had to be smooth with it. We were interviewing her I was working I couldn't be just yelling screaming flipping out but I did almost like die in a great way. If I'm George Lucas before. I. Saw Phantom Menace I would've lost my mind. Before, the four sunny view of mad like I would still bug but it'd be it'd be. Looking at him like he says, yeah. I be. Split Yeah. Thanks for no eggs. I great question. Thank you Lynn version to. The next one comes from our friend was crack in San. Fam- Is May's AKA better call Jigsaw. Better. Call Saul. Yeah. Just, put in, do shit for you mavericks cool. All right better call Jigsaw. All right and nobody thought but. We're GONNA lead that. Aka a coup mckean county, a Kuma Ken today. About that but I feel like somebody's GonNa get wild offensive inanities towing the line but you. I'm not sure what these are referenced in that particular one is. Kim Tae. Who in he's from roots who what's his name Instead of Koutecky. Kuma from street fighter yet if I'm saying it's Okay. Moving on Vampire in. Crook. l'an. That's not really a that's. Actually, honestly, maize does this to get your reaction you. To me that anymore the reaction that's just like. I'm not reading the next one, and if I'm saying and neither of those those maze, those aren't as as as I started and I wanna make personal you know. Pleaded People I. Like not everything is a joke fan like you know certain things you gotta just leave and you know we don't. We don't promote that overheat. You know what I mean like I saw a tweet earlier from as from somebody else on our count and I wanted to respond but at the same time I play. I believe you know but we don't. You know slow something's data leaving the drafts. Can. Well. The question goes I heard a quote from Chris Rock on the radio. Last week that I think is hilarious. But true he said the beauty of being black is the future is always better. There are no good old days. Do you agree also what things should we look forward to twenty twenty one given how crazy this year has been? SIDEBAR. Absolutely. Loving. My that's all main shirt. Also cop the inclusion revolution. Okay. Variant shirt peace, and love. Very much mays for purchasing the MERCH. Thank you again to the incredible phenomenal Christy who provided the design for the inclusion revolution shirts and all the variations thereof just hot freaking fire. I can't wait to my shirts come in We did this either picture of you in the That's all main shirt looking good is fire styling audet. Moore's for designing that Mr Morris is has been an valuable and I love you so much Mr Morris. Thank you so much everything you do for us word What do you think about that quote from Chris? Rock. The beauty of being black is the future is always better. There are no good old days. I don't. Think I it. Like to be honest 'cause I'm just like I'm again, maybe I need some time to for to marinate in my head but just off. Just from jump street like I don't really like it I. Do like it in one way because I do feel what he's saying, I've never been a person who's been like Oh, this was leading this ain't. You know like when mays asked, what do we have to look forward to look forward to being alive every day facts into store you know I I don't have time for that once again, metality to love bobcats like. Oh Shit. Terrible you know And I. Don't have time for that. You know what I mean. I. Think it's because of my life you know I've been through it. I've been to prison. This is not the worst year of my life. I, mean my mom passed away a few years ago like Oz reading an interview between Michaela Coal and Donald Glover and. Donald Glover's response in that. But okay. There was one where he basically. It. You Might WanNa finish or let you finish it. Tell me. Matin me. Not Spoiling. The excerpt that I read, but he was just talking Abou? Jess about in fact, we mentioned earlier in the show just about teaching when like whether or not you're going to teach why people about racism and all this other stuff, and it was just bury off-track for me like I didn't. Hoping or did you read effort I read that section? You get some really good stuff in there about how he did but that part wasn't it. Not Everybody. Bro. You know almoner trash so. Like I did like some stuff about it. But what was really impressed me or not impressive about from it was when she was talking about the name, I may destroy you for the show which I watch it. I'M GONNA start. Michaela love her chewing gum, my joint, but I just wasn't ready for this shit you know. But at Arena interview, I was like, okay. Need pizzas this even watch I have I wasn't ready I was a bad place when that you know Still may not be ready I'm pretty sure I'm probably not going to take a slow and watch variety came between. But what I was taken from an interview with was I you know I may destroy. You refers to things like that like it's all about when Donald Lovers Dad passed like when my mom passed him I went to prison like you go in his experiences and after you go through a couple of them are so you start learning like this could be worse than life isn't that bad an everyday breathing is a blessing what I mean. So I don't really have that mentality of. You know what? Different? How crazy every this is America. My ancestors put with a lot worse fam- like I think and that's absolute auto to remember when Ronald Reagan you know different presidents have been here like trump is just a blip to meet you know it's not that big a deal. You know the problems are him one you know what I mean need just made it where people can say this y.`all stuff. And growing up in Texas I'm happy for that because that's how it's always been. You know I'd never had this east coast of for people here. They racism I grew people called me the N. word. Fates finding I had the covert racist. Full in your face racism. I mean. I. Yeah. That's so I'm used to it. So this and and I always knew as because they was sure. You know what I mean, and they wanted to be me but they could be you know. So that's the those are those who have to. Sign never worried about us. I. Don't I don't have that mentality fan where it's like Oh yeah. You know what is your shirts German? Crazy but this year light. We're still so blessed we're in America you know what does years To Life is like this all the time for most of the world you know what I mean. We gotta be real proud of what we got you. As and work in fight for it you know and don't be complacent and don't be like. I. Hate that mentality are like. Trump's base isn't going to change. Well didn't change one of them. That's how revolution start. You know you don't start by changing the masses. You change people one on one. Like don't ever have that defeatist mentality man I don't. I just do not understand it and I'm not talking to you may is talking to everyone. You know, I just don't understand defeatist mentality. You know ever in any circumstance. I just I just wanted to how they may have gotten there. Yes. But like you need to either do more breeding of History Goto therapy, do something because it's like this is not the worst. Our ancestors had to do it a lot worse and they kept going you know what I mean and I was like, what I took from that Donald Lover Interview actually applies to even said, we're working on right now he was like anything you create right now you're not GonNa, you know you're planning a treat you're not gonna eat from the fruit. And your kids might not eat from the fruit, but your grand kids will eat that fruit. You know what I mean. We've talked about before like how will rely damn sick of telling the story. But until you tell the story and until this toxic is he raised, we're gonNA keep telling stories so people get it so you. Got To keep watching slavery movies spent though that not that store because. See Stories not. Stories just trying to reinforce that we always slaves. NFL always say about slavery films while no because Africa's history because you know as Africans as African America, our history is. Thousands a years deeper than to four hundred years they had us in slavery. But why do they focus on that? Why gotTA ANSWER? Bass on period. And the last question comes from wild. Plaza they right. Who is four owners? All nerds favourite twitch streamer. My favorite to a streamer is for owners. Thank you. My other favorite streamers. Actually Soldier Boys Leiria's. t pain I loved. The music and all that stuff. He's just funny I especially like like like lately, I've been watching soldier boys among US streams? I don't know if you've been playing if you played among but I've been playing it and first of all today I, finally one at the impostor. Thanks. but it's a really fun like whodunit. Type Gain Rose, simple graphics you basically every your whole team is on a spaceship and one or maybe sometimes people are an impostor and you're supposed to walk around the shift is doing regular tasks you know like. Emptying out the trash shooting meteors or you know real simple shit But then there's somebody one or more people who are an impostor and they actually go around trying to covertly kill people but maintain their innocence and so like this whole thing about like how can you? How can you kill people getting caught? You know when when people do find dead bodies and then everyone's deliberating who the killer, how do you get out of it like that. So and and it's hilarious because someone is like presume to be killed, you get you get to vote on them they get kicked out of an airlock and they float. And so so imagine washing it where the wrong people keep getting selected and. That's what happened when I was playing. So I was a killer I was in boxer and abroad. Kept seeing bodies so-and-so. So was not the impossible and I would die. God. It's so much like the fact is another teen group play. We should do together on the on twitch. Twitch I'm saying my favorite stream will be talked down king but I'm still waiting for that babe you on the four hundred. Funny. Enough I did debut sounding work. Debut last week it was my first dream and I thought it. It's all about use dream. You know obviously we infant debut on Wall Street coming I'll jump on that. Salaries it's always. The other day I figured out when I if I just live my laptop up. And keep it elevated like off the table it cools a better and does my CPU down. AM multiple, you have a crate you create. What do you call it? I have a DJ laptop standard. Unit like a void to now that I know I, it's it's. It's it's like and I'm so stupid. I if I had a big s desktop, you've got to keep cool. And I keep a laptop blast AC in here and all that. But I'm just saying I keep it just raising it up. So it's not sitting on a table and that lowered look if y'all understand obvious struggle. I mean. Don't be hitting stream and it has worked for a lot of all. No. Well because. 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Really quickly and one of my other favorite segments that everyone knows and loves it's time for comics. Comics copy we talked about all the different comics that we cop which means for those women staying by we'd you know anything old new anything you're copping complex and my cop so we're talking about major us at Hashtag on instagram on twitter on all things media platforms on Tumbler, we pop it on Tumblr it to you ain't everywhere and I see people using the Hashtag a few people sent out some comments. This week. I. Saw I saw two Black Panther cover was when people were tweeting it out to US old A. Could I have not been over to anyone comics justice re fat man Lance Williams to Lance. Sent me this morning. He'd be like nine in the morning lands you seen this hustler yet h you I. Am I'm like, how did you? This. Week. I got the digital read. So I? Woke up yet and you already. A week. So I don't know I knowed, what do you call it going to send you continue this week sort of X. instruments in you and I'm not sure which should a twenty two parter him out a will quit. You'll fuck. Rob. Louisville. But I say that before you said that before but we can always say again, it can be said again because you know I saw a lot of disrespect to our people Vida Allah and go fuck yourself fam- you know what I mean your whole crew and Anybody who supports you too because that's sort of mad wheat like and I pointed it out on twitter. It's so ridiculous white man it's like this came onto a boat new mutants right and completely changed everything to make it s force brought cabling on all these tournament too tough bad, ass. They never did shit they're worse than Batman I mean just the worst they were like, oh, it's GonNa. You know we're not having it like the estimate do and then they had it like the instrument do every issue whatever. The. But that's what I'm saying he complete change it I knew mutants with this. You know about these kids, the new mutants in tournaments, pair moats, our organization. So the fact Hickman comes onto X. men and completely revised it for some reason has got robbed filled. Walden is little short shorts and. Short. And all his pouches and his no feet is. Me Yeah. But only John Hands the hands feet audit and he all he just he got rich to quick and never kept going just you know stayed the same and got worse progress. He got worse really because his first off and dove when I first saw him to being I mean she kaleo. I think that's his first work ever. He didn't Hawkins Miniseries for DC, and when I saw the cover that you know I didn't care about Hawkins barely read DC sought to cover Jimmy this you know what I mean and Alice a huge fan of his when he came on a new mutants, I was already reading it but when they brought him on asking. You know, and so it's so bad out to me to see this now you know like. But. Once again men trash and the top at trashy for white men folks so. Stupid Hook you know. But in some wiping, we love hearing comics I cop. Let me give a big happy birthday. Shout my brother Karen Gillan man like that is one of the the. Starstruck I'm not star shared by him because we become friends and stuff but that is one of the. Joys of this show for me because I'm like such a fan of them you know like Karen J Mckelvey the team I just loved him so much in that. Met them effort to be really good people you know like open them are really good people. It's refreshing when you're you're hoping that the person, the Creator you meet is good and you're like Yo Yo y'all are good people. So lovely. They're not assholes. Amazing you know what? I mean like actually hung out with caring. We've gotten twist the other now ran role plane session and he just a great dude. So happy birthday to you man. 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So he can make Dan and Tamra superstars because the art is stupid and Tamra is the colorist and I saw her talking about how colors don't get enough credit and I. always big up colors and Karen always have fireworks wants but Tamra is doing the Lord's work on his book. Yeah. Callers are just so beautiful. Every issue Dan More to art is so dope, but it's kind of a light story to me about China is about this evil King Arthur coming back and to modern times once and future king and this Young Indiana Jones type character and his grandmother, his grandmother who is light straight up evolved in autumn magic. She knows all the secrets of the world and she brings him into it and so Naro battling this evil king author. And All these other monsters from myth bail will and Bao's mother showed up in the latest war. Grendel Grendel Grendel mom showing them in a later from bail with isn't it of bail fist fighting grinder supposed to be but everybody's evil pretty much all automatic. 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Clockwise 279: What Sorcery Is This?

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Clockwise 279: What Sorcery Is This?

"It's time for episode two hundred and seventy nine of the clockwise podcast from relay FM recorded Wednesday January thirtieth two thousand nineteen lock wise. Four people or TEK topics thirty minutes. Welcome back to clockwise the tech podcast that is both the best and worst of times. I'm your co host Dan Moore. And and I am joined across this frigid country by my co-host, Mr. Mike, Jen, Stein, more mica, Lord, see, that's what makes it. The worst of times is I'm currently shivering in my boots. Well, this is of course, the tech podcast where we talked with two fantastic. Guests to my left this week. First timer on the podcast, the publisher of tidbits and the new tidbits content network. It is Adam angst. I Adam welcome to the show. Thanks for having me, Dan and looking forward to it. And to my left. I'm going to go ahead and read this brilliant, Twitter, bio, rabble rouser, and friend of the rebel alliance technology enthusiasts occasional podcast her. It's Kelly Gaumont. Hello kelly. Hi, I'm glad to be here with you guys today. And the let's kick things off today. I'm going to start it off with the thing that has been making the rounds this week's FaceTime bug in Iowa. And the MAC got a lot of attention. But it got me thinking about group FaceTime, which is at the root of this problem this feature that apple introduced last year. And my question is is it a feature that you actually find yourself using view still stick with other group conferencing apps, did you disabled FaceTime. Because of this bugger was at two important for what you were doing Adam. What are your feelings on Griffey on group faced on seriously? I will admit I I've used it twice. Now, both intestines with you know, like in tidbits to staff kind of situations and made everyone motion sick. That was it was actually working. So no, I don't use FaceTime or a group FaceTime. I I use FaceTime itself occasionally, but it just it's not affecting me in the slightest, and I didn't disable it partly because apple said, they'd turn it off and partly because you know, I don't make a habit of telling my deepest darkest secrets while the phone's ringing. That's the only time I do. Yeah. So I have not I don't I've used group FaceTime actually in the same same way for a couple of tests for work, but have not used group FaceTime outside of that. As I FaceTime goes I used to never be face. I don't I don't like making phone calls. Even don't make me put my face in front of you. However, my partner is a huge face timer. And so because of that he is pretty much the only person in my life that has permission to twos to call me over FaceTime, and we can video chat there. But as far as disabling it. No since apple, you know, did the thing on server side Kelly. What about you? I use FaceTime regularly because I I am tech support for my family and most of my family doesn't live near me. So FaceTime is a really official. Way to be able to just see what they're seeing instead of getting them to describe it to me over the phone. So I do use FaceTime regularly, but not group FaceTime. My reaction was a lot like atoms, but mostly it was like, oh, yeah. Group facetime. That's the thing. Was like what I remembered of it. And it was it was the same as everybody else. Like, I tried it to see how it went. And like, how did it work and all of that and went? Yep. That's group FaceTime. Okay. And then like I haven't used it since an apple pulled the functionality on the server side already. So none of that stuff can happen. I don't use the phone all that much. Probably more than sounds like everybody else does which is don't ever call me. But I do have I do talk to people on the phone occasionally, sometimes over FaceTime audio but the face in video stuff, I tend to keep four tech support. And that makes it something that is useful to me. But not the group functionality of it that part hasn't even even less than you guys. I I was really excited for this feature to come out because there's been years in the like, you know, waiting for a multi-party face part base time. I've never used it. I didn't even use it for testing. And like, it's not that. I don't think it would be useful. Like, I have a lot of family that that face times with each other, and it would be kind of cool to get like a group conference together. But it just like at this point. I'm still not convinced anybody else knows it exists. So I'm going to FaceTime. And they're going to be like what there's four people in this cul. What is happening is this crap? Yeah. What saucer? He is this. And what was interesting though, was I did disabled FaceTime before apple turned off the group servers, and I didn't realize until I went to do a radio segment yesterday that usually when they call me, I answer the call on my I MAC because it's hooked up to this podcasting, Mike and everything and with FaceTime disabled, the call Thorning thing that Ford's calls to your other devices doesn't work you have to be logged into FaceTime on all your devices. So Mike why in one of those weird sentences? You find yourself saying why isn't my computer ringing? So that was a little bit of a bummer. But yeah, I certainly didn't find it a huge a huge impediment having it disabled anyways. Thanks for your thoughts on that. Let's move onto our second topic which comes from atom as we've been seeing in the news, the US government recently shut down this. This seems like kind of a big deal to me. But I was thinking, you know, in one of those science fiction, he kind of ways what would it be like if one of the tech giant's took over the country instead, which tech company, do you think would be do the best job of running the country? Oh is none an end. So if I had if I had choose. A tech giant. I I'm probably going to get accused of being some sort of. Some sort of there's no safe way out of this, Mike, sheep sheep. But genuinely the the values of the many of the leaders at apple lineup with my values. Apple as a company and Apple's leadership as a group of people. Value. Things that I value value, diversity and value. Speaking out on those those topics and value privacy and security and in. Yes, we're going to talk about another topic soon where there's been a bit of an issue. But at the end of the day, you know, I I don't know what to say about sort of their their policies and other ways, but in terms of social issues, I think that the leaders of apple would do an okay job running the Kelly. What is your answer? Nothing is right. Let me tell you. I my answer is flee to the hills insurance butter for. Yes. Basham 'cause like there's at least two that. I'm going to write off immediately because they're not interested in me as a productive member of society. They're just interested in the data. I can generate they can sell to other companies. So that's out like Mike is that I would probably go with apple for the same sort of the values that they hold and kind of the the the walk the walk of starting a camp for an accelerator program for female Isla, developers who all show up, and they're offering resources to those people. I will point out that Tim cook named checked ABC camp for girls at an event last year for for the work that we're trying to do and the different things like making sure people are healthy by giving away to employees who finished the challenges like a special watchband and offering pride watch bands each year. I would say those this might be a controversial stance. But I'm gonna say for non tech that it would be Starbucks because they're let your mind. Chance. Yeah. I might get my way with that one. But but it's partly because as an organization like being everywhere is part of what makes them really useful. And I know that when we had a whole lot of wildfires in Oregon like when when you would see headlines about basically, the entire state being on fire at least three Starbucks near me when I went to find out if they were if they would donate anything to take two firefighters all of them were doing that regularly anyway, and it was very nice to see that they were sort of involved in the community on that level. So that would be my pick. Well, I mean, obviously, I'm gonna pick Facebook because it seems like there's no what are you nuts? Puffy? You know, I I've turned over a couple options in my head. And obviously as we all agree. None of these are good ideas. I did think Amazon for a little bit because. Yeah, sure, they have microphones in all our houses. But come on the government, probably does anyways. And they can actually deliver products and services. Unlike. But I'm going to pick sort of an ancillary tech company. I don't know that necessarily considered like a huge tech company. But let's go with Nintendo for everything would just be. Just be that's more populous. If you have any issues with your plumbing like they got that take. I feel like that covers like really just a lot of bases there. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, certainly, you know from a from a social perspective as we've been talking about. I'm not sure that there's a good answer there. There are some that are better than others. And I would agree apple tends to fall into that camp. But if we're just talking about sort of the efficiency of the administration liking getting, you know, the trains to run on time as it were I feel like pretty much any of them might be. The government. Well, so I have to admit that you know, when I when I came up with this question. I was like boy there's so many possibilities here. Both good and bad. But I think I come down when it and the government side is a little bit less on the, you know, do I agree with this candidate kind of thing in terms of values and whatnot. Because feels to me like soon as people get elected, they show him, the skeletons, and they become they become government, regardless of what they thought before. So for me, I think government is more about like nuts, much, keeping the trains running. But like keeping the world running and to that. I really think that I would pick Google I mean, obviously issues with how they make money, but we're not thinking about making money 'cause they're gonna be in charge of the countries. They've got all the money, and but Google works well in lots of different countries in terms of trying to get there. They have they are interested in in in outreach to to other places, and they. May not may not always like it on the value standpoint. But they're willing to compromise. Which is a necessary thing for a government to be able to do. Compromise their their their positions like in China. They also are just into a lot of stuff. So feels to me like apple would just be overwhelmed because they don't know how they only know how to do one thing they know how to make I phones and Macs and whatnot. Whereas Google's I mean, they do this self driving cars they've got, you know, so they got the department of transportation, they've got Varela. They've got the department of health feels to me like they're broad enough to to actually take on some of the the concepts there now. I mean, we can all agree. This is entirely scary. But it's scary in both directions. Right. So hey, you know, we're we're we're fantasizing here. And is it really any scarier than where we are. Now. I look forward to seeing the literal Google moonshot. All right. Precisely that is to topics down two topics. Go, which of course, means it is halftime gear at clockwise. 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Halftime it is over mica. What he got? All righty. So I don't know if you saw this this little saga playing out but Facebook made a new app. Called Facebook research, and it had folks sign up in kind of a wild and weird way where you would essentially side load the app onto your device, and then they would pay you for using your data. Well, apple has since invalidated the certificate that the company was using an order to side load these apps on devices, and I'm just curious. What is it going to take to stop companies from violating or simply pretending to undervalue our privacy and personal data online. You know? I think it's going to take sunlight people understanding exactly what it is. They're giving up and having a clear idea of what that means heart of what makes some of this frustrating is that privacy in that sort of stuff. So, you know, everybody accepts nobody reads, and that sort of understood, and I think some of that probably needs to change. And I think there needs to be more awareness and part of that is because this kind of falls under security, which is kind of a big topic. When you talk about technology, but I think a lot of people sort of go, you know, that's not for me. Like, I don't even know what I don't know. I don't know where to even start asking. So that I can understand some of the stuff better. And there hasn't been a technological security as a standard part of people people's lives for a long time. Like when you start driving. I've used this example before when you start driving people explain to you like you roll up all the windows. You lock the doors. You don't leave your laptop in the front seat? And these are the basic security things you do to keep most people from Boston into your car. There are certain things you do when you are at an ATM to keep people from robbing you, and there's like basic levels of security out in the world with with physical things. And we haven't had that well of knowledge that sort of gets passed from person to person with online security or or computer security yet. And I think when we get there that's going to be what it takes is just people like, you know, again with apple coming out and talking about here the security features of our product. Here's what happens to our data. If you use this new feature of your thing. And here's the implications of that. And it's just a standard part of what they talk about. When they roll out something new to people, and I think that having more people know and understand and not be intimidated that they don't know or embarrassed to ask about it. Because they don't know that's going to be what it takes for people to finally. Start paying attention. And then somebody will come up with an alternative that we can all use instead. I think he's gonna take primarily two things that go kind of hand in hand one is making this unprofitable for corporations. I think that's really the only thing that that makes any difference is whether it affects the bottom line. And if there is a reason why trying to farm all this data is is bad for business. Not just from a PR perspective. But from an actual financial and result than I think, that's that's something that makes a big dent. And I think that's going to take a second thing. And that is government regulation. I don't think that anybody besides the government has enough clout to make that happen in whether that's just by basically enacting more painful fines, like, you know, it's gonna have a lot of these finds that do get levied against them. These are companies that make billions and billions and billions of dollars every year. And if you slap them with something that's even a few hundred million dollars worth that's a fraction of what they make in in most. Quarters. That's not painful enough for them to to really stop doing it. So it needs to be much more punitive and the regulations need to be done much clear because I think you know, what Kelly talked about in terms of education is a good start. But you know, you really I think need some governmental backstopping on that to make sure that these these companies are actually following rules and protecting our data as they should. I think the European Union has obviously made much more stringent regulations about that. And hopefully that is a step in the right direction. But the US is is pretty lax by comparison. So I think a lot of chain these we made their in our our literacy and education efforts really needs to start with the government itself. Because I don't think they even know in most cases, what these companies get up to I agree entirely, Dan in terms of government regulation being necessary and fines needing to be real. I love it when you know, Google is fined fifty million to something that's like petty cash. They find it. The couch. But I think we need to go farther, and you know, I. I I'm not this sort of person. I'm a little uncomfortable with what I'm going to say because I'm not really, you know, the the Bandelier wearing kind of Sandinista hair. But I think we need privacy militants. I think we need to basically have people who are going out there and saying, okay, Mark Zuckerberg? What do we know about you? And let's publish that for the world to see okay representatives. So and so who voted against a privacy Bill? How much do we know about you? Let's publish that. For everyone to know. Let's talk about privacy, and what it means to lose it because these people they don't have a clue they're special. They're rich. They have guards they have staff they have all this stuff, and they're not the ones who are being exploited. And so I think the really needs to be some downside to all these people who are going on about how well I need this for my business. So we wouldn't want to hamper and American in innovation that kind of stuff. I mean, the fact is that there's no downside for these people in there being lax privacy regulations. Let's give them some personal skin in the game. Who okay, I really like that one. That's fun. I'm just thinking about a Bandelier, but it's got like iphones. Yeah. Oh boy. That's great. So all good answers there. I saw some discussion on Twitter about the idea that, you know, in in this future where data continues to be such a valuable resource to so many companies it shows how folks with low income or other forms of lack of privilege can be taken advantage of. Some people were talking about how oh a twenty dollar e gift card. That's not that much money. And it's not in terms of how much money these companies end up making off of our data. But at the same time twenty dollars for some people is not something to just sort of scoff at and it can make a difference. And so because of that it shows how these companies can take advantage of folks who are trying to find a way to make ends meet. And this is the only way that they can they can go about it. So I agree that a government regulation and education, and perhaps even militancy are all necessary to to protect our privacy and personal data. And the only other thing would just be that we continue to support companies that choose to make that center to their you know, sort of center to their the things that they create and the. Stuff. They're putting out into the world. All righty. Thank you all for your answers on that. Let's go to our last topic which comes from Kelley right now. We've heard people talk about, you know, the industrial age in these sorts of things and how now we live in the information age, and I feel like that's almost a criminal understatement. There's so many sources of information in there cranking out so much information all the time like if we would lie I think we've it feels like we live in more than a twenty four hour news cycle. Even though there are only twenty four hours in the day. We're on our news cycle day or something, you know. So I would like to know like with with all of this information out there and having to strike a balance between being informed and just mentally being exhausted by trying to keep up. What steps do all of you take to balance being informed with information overload? I tried to unplug a little bit. And some of that is just ignoring, you know, Twitter or whatever the or Instagram or whatever some of it is like, you know, walking away from my desk. So I don't have a source of information right in front of me that has something I can consume just by flicking my eyes over to one side, but but trying to balance that especially when you're in a job that that often feels like it requires some degree of engagement is really tough. And certainly, you know, trying to figure out ways to not be inundated and still not be willfully ignorant about things that are going on. Because I don't think that's a solution. Either. I think for me a lot of it is about more recently just trying to interact more in the real world. In trying to not let my phone dictate. What I'm doing a or when I'm sitting at the computer to sort of, you know, even simple things like putting into like single, you know, single app mode on my MAC book. So when I'm working on something there aren't other things constantly updating inflicting at me in the background of the menu, bar, whatever. So it's kind of a multi prong approach for me. But I think the best solution is always just you know, sometimes to take a walk. It's not perfect. But it's it's sort of the best coping strategy I found so far. I yeah. I think the only way to do this for me, frankly is self control that I'm one of those people who has trouble not weeding text that I can see. And so for instance, I started fire we heat partly with wood. And I started fire twice a day to do that. I burn the New York Times because my parents give me large stacks of it. And and it's it's really they do publish such great stuff. I actually have to turn the papers upside down. So I don't. Get sucked into an article before. I crumpled the paper to start the fire. So so my so yes. So I try very hard to ignore things in an extra. I've gotten better at that in. But how do we keep up with what is important well in the tech world, you know, just sort of exist a certain amount with other people. And so what I've done is. I've kind of extrapolated that to the real world as well. And so I basically never ever read any national news or anything like that. I'll read local news, and that's it. No, watch TV. Don't do any of that kind of stuff. And then I go for a run with my friends, and I see what topics come up in conversation. I worked as a journalist for about four years covering all sorts of news world news. You know, US news and all the fun and horrible things that happen around the world and here in the United States and that meant having to be ready to roll ready to to hop on camera. I like six in the morning and tell folks about how they're. Was you know, a plane crash or something like that? Yeah. So I was I was plugged in always because I had to be and so when I moved to work at mobile nations and just did tech reporting. And didn't have to end camera anymore on vacation. Yes, I was on vacation. But I gave myself permission to not be that tied in. I feel like I sort of was in the trenches and did that and I gave myself permission to not be super plugged in these days. I use apple news notifications to for certain outlets, news outlets and those keep me updated. And if I want to that, I can dive in and read more about whatever the topic happens to be I think it's okay to sort of give yourself permission to balance that that overload any last thoughts on that Kelly. Well, mostly just what I do is I sort of avoid mid level news. I try to pay attention to local news because that's going to affect me a lot more. And I tried to watch like, my PBS station has BBC world news. So I will watch that to sort of find out what's going on in the rest of the world because a lot. Times the new cycle. At least in the US is so concerned with what's going on in the US. You don't really hear much about what's happening anyplace else. So I try to balance by mostly doing local news and then world news. And I keep up on tech for obvious reasons. And I do a lot of my tech stuff with RSS. I have very few notifications on my phone. So that that stuff doesn't doesn't pop up at me the rest of the time that that is a nice way to live. It sounds very well that is for topics down. We've just enough time for a very quick bonus topic my question for you all this week is what is it a unique spot in the city town or village where you live that you love I'm gonna pick monkey run trails, which I don't know if you ever saw when you were in a gorgeous sort of trails, and if I had more time I would expound upon why it's called monkey run for me. There's a town square here in Springfield. And I. There's this very nice about like a town square. It's got a a little park and fountain and community stage in the middle of it and a bunch of great little restaurants, shops and cafes that surround it. And it's where most of the events that happened in the city happen. I live in Portland. So it's really hard treated narrow this down fine. What I will. I will point out. There is an arcade here called quarter world that's on Hawthorne boulevard in southeast Portland. And the reason that I'm picking them is because they have a tesla coil, and they do shows with the Tusla coil where they blast it with varying levels of electricity in order to elicit notes, and they turn that into music. And so you have not lived until you have heard them up show theme song or the legitimacy theme. Song played on a tesla coil. I'm going to pick in prospect. He'll here in Somerville where I live. There is a monument, and it is the location where the first flag representing the United States before the United States was even a country was hoisted in seventeen seventy six by Mr. George Washington himself, and it's got a great view of the Boston skyline. And that is the show. All that remains is I think are wonderful guest this week. Thank you so much for being here. Very glad you have you. Glad to be here and Kelly demont. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for having me on the show and Mike. Oh, we've made it through another week. So all that remains to remind our listeners out there watch what you say and keep watching the clock. I everybody they warm everybody.

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Rocket 252: Retraction

Rocket

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Rocket 252: Retraction

"Hello and welcome to rockets accelerated gig conversation. This episode is brought to you by squarespace. pinged them and Flatiron in school mode Roche for a video producer at Pauley Gone Dot Com. And I'm here today. With Brianna Wu Democratic candidate for or Congress what hey are believed Christina is either in Orlando or Paris right now which is nuts she can go. I frankly and we're going to have to cover so much big stuff without her. Not least of which will be the retraction and apology that we will be issuing listeners gracefully but after that we'll be talking about lasers in home security as we often do and then it's a of brief no brief a lengthy segment of scam town for Y'all take time it's about AIRBNB attack company. I love skin tone. Scam town rules. It will not be the same without Christina. But that's what she gets for having a career that including the world when back by the way it's not next week but the week after the week after that. Yeah we're so we're having a hard drive guys on next week we are on. Ah We need her. We do need to get her will survive like emotionally. I feel fine you Gotcha. No you're fine. You're funds Simone. I sit before we get into. I need to just air my grievances I I feel like all of the technology has been so against me today. Not least of which I I will be the first person to say security. He is so so important. I love to be secure however the. It rules at our company have become so locked down that today. Why open creative cloud adobe creative cloud a program that where? I control all of the APPS that I use everyday we day. The Certified Adobe APPs such as premier an audition and after effects I logged in and it was like you can't see your apps you don't have permissions for that. ooh like the whole screen. You know we open creative cloud and it's like here's your version of premier. Do you WANNA update it. Do you WANNA open it. I'm like yeah. That's not the only way to open the the Abbott. Open the frigate APP from there but just what. I do look at that to see if I need to update my fricken APP and I'm not can have someone from it. Come up to my floor to type A password in on my machine ashamed that I use every freaking day to the program that I also use every frigging day it is published by Dobie. They now it's lit it. I was I was I. The the phrase seeing red was exactly like me in that moment of facing the screen and not uneven being able to see what apps I had installed through the program that I used to install those frigging apps. I was furious. I continue to Pity I understand. It's for my own safety so I'm not a video like superstar like you but is it possible. Bovina having access to premier could slow down your ability to make videos. Is that possible. It's interesting that you should bring that up and of course it's not like updating the creative cloud suites would help me stay secure or like help my programs grams being able to work with each other and I'll stay on the same version. It's not like that at all moving on. Wow Good luck your turn to to. Let's talk about as long as we're getting all the FUNKY Juju out. We have to completely do an about face. We got an about face okay. I wou spent an hour last night with you dear last week with the Iraq it listeners telling lies to you the blatant lies I lied. I was wrong and we just need to. We need to clear the air. So this this whole thing can move forward. So uh-huh guess a duo set this up some ideal last week on the show. We talked about the newly released slate of Apple. TV shows such as for all mankind Dickinson and the morning show on that program. We talked about reviews of the morning show In how people had founded mediocre and the other shows with the exception of for all mankind somewhat mediocre as. Well although I did I did hold out. For the fact the Dickinson would actually be extremely multi sh ch time stab however after accessing their apple. TV Account Apple TV plus accounts and watching the morning. Show Brianna Woo Christina. Warren would like to issue an an apology and retraction to Jennifer. Aniston Reese Witherspoon to all creative minds involved in the production action in the morning show as they said in slut in WHATSAPP. I believe Yup it rules. It's unbelievably good Have you the messages that you sent me the crow eating messages but go on no so obviously last week. We we said some things. You're like you know I was was worried the apple TV shows wouldn't take point of view. These reviews seem to bear that out through views are flat out wrong especially with morning show. It's it's worth saying if you think rotten tomatoes is not a great metric of things but if you compare the audience reactions versus the critic reactions this this is just a huge gulf between. I love this Christina. Loves it Dan Moore and loves it. Rene righty off say Chris did. I'd say she did not say it was good. She said I hate myself but I love it really. I think it's really good. Have you seen it yet not yet so I everybody says it's like Said just give listeners a little bit of background. The morning show is extensively. It's about up the The the today show and Matt Lauer in the whole change over there In the game of thrones stuff behind the scenes This is a alternate reality version of the today. Show were Steve Carell. Plays a Matt Lauer character who was fired for sexual actual misconduct. Jennifer Aniston plays a A host of female hosts has been there for fifteen years at the network. Wants to push out the door and Reese Witherspoon places can feisty conservative upstart journalist that It's Kinda fired at every single. The institution she goes to kind of like a Megan Kelly character This show I think it's ten ten I I like the characters and Okay No. I shouldn't say this on the show considering both of you work in media. I don't like succession that much. I hate everyone on succession. I can tell what's a good show but I don't look forward to the episodes that much to me. This is a much more interesting show about media. If that'd be funny that you should say that because Christina literally said succession. This isn't in her of it. However I do have some support for you? Stephen Among said he loves the morning show despite scathing reviews. So you're in good company. What do you think what do you what position do you think it takes on Steve Corrales character. So I know has gotten Some critique for being Too Louis Easy on the man and I I think you can see that. Steve Kraus characters really in denial about what he did to justify getting fired there But I find that like nuance lack of introspection interesting and realistic So I it's get it's it's he's kind of. He doesn't admit a wrong and the network doesn't really like the producer of the show also kind of has his back on this. He doesn't want I pick sides but to me. This is a fiercely feminist show. It's got some really great feminist themes because she's got Jennifer Aniston. She's got this great speech in one scene. where she's like you all? She's talking to a bunch of men and Television Producers Conference table where she's being called the task and she's like you all are just so convinced that you have all the power you don't even ask who's in the driver's seat the truth is I bring in the ads for this network. I have the power and I feel like I should have a voice here and I. I just found that to be a really powerful moment. I'm not Jennifer Aniston Fan. Generally I just think her her comedy is kind of one note. But I think she's a fairly substantive character here as hers the one that resonates most with you. Definitely Reese Witherspoon I think it's interesting because they're they're trying to portray her as a conservative. Inner carefully avoiding waiting all of the the the baggage or antagonistic attitudes that generally come along with that side of the Isles television programming so it seems like a very careful tap dance but overall is just a great show For all mankind only seen three episodes of it so far. But it's it's It's a it's a Dick Flick. It's it's there no women in the show even a little thought. There's a whole episode about there being a lot of women. Well the ones I've seen Eventually they As I understand the mercury twelve there are women astronauts that come to be main characters on the show. I'm not that deep into it yet but Standing was there's a whole episode about training up the female team of astronauts to do it all lady rocket to the my home that I like that lady rocket to the Moon that's our show Regarding briefly returning to morning show I think the criticism that resonated the most with me was that that to the character. The character reese witherspoon is playing. WHO's like an upstart to goes viral? Because of a hot take she she had a protest. Yup How she's being been brought into the network feisty new blood it does not make I think narrative percents and I agree with this that she is a like Jennifer Aniston's character a middle aged white woman. Yup that that's that's not really the age group that or racial makeup. That a feisty upstart brought into the network to shake things up would be necessarily Yup especially out there making commentary protests. And right I'll being involved in about how she's Ping Pong around her whole career career. I didn't find that bobber bothersome at all agree the the twist she takes it. The network defies belief. But I'm I'm willing to go with it. I mean you know like there's an episode succession where they're all in therapy together in the media's covering then like this is stupid like the episode so good you think so really. I mean what I love about succession. With every scene those characters go into you can see the dynamics hammocks of power playing off each other without those conversations being spoken aloud just unlike the ways the actors are behaving together and in the ways they defer to each other and I just think that that scene whether all in therapy and all the kids and there are horrible. Abusive Dad are just sitting there silently and nobody wants to say anything because they can't say anything in front of their dad is so there's so much tension threaded through that scene And I absolutely and the whole show is like every scene of that show is like that and I just love that but I hate all the characters all of those. That doesn't matter matter to me. I but their interactions are so juicy. Yup All right no. It's it's got some moments. I agree with that. We just got great news. News From Christina she says thereabouts She says that she's on her way back to her hotel. She's going to record voice memo for us about Apple. TV PLUS So. I'm going to have that. Inserted into the episode. So listeners can hear Christina's very own retraction. Hello rocket listeners. This is Christina. Coming to you from my hotel room in Orlando I am at a Marriott vacation rental which is still the best life hack ever my place. My Hotel Room which is very inexpensive is bigger than my apartment. It's it's great so I wish that I could be on the show tonight with reince Mon but since I can't have three things that I wanNA share with you. First and foremost I ran into into a rocket listener at Microsoft ignite and it was. I'm not joking. One of the highlights of my entire show and to that listener. I wish that the bar had been open and so I could have at least procured you a free drink And if you do see me later on please know that a drink are on me That thank you for coming up to me and and thank you for listening to this show. That was awesome number two I am recording this with my air pods pros or however Were we're doing that the naming here because that's a little weird So I apologize. The audio quality is not what you've come to expect but hopefully it's okay. I know that it's good for phone calls. I don't know what it's like for audio recording. which is one of the reasons why I'm doing this? I have to say my t. l.. Dr Review is really freaking good The noise canceling his awesome. The audio quality is really good. I will say the the noise cancelling is one of those things. Where if you're on an airplane your bose does? QC's your white comforts where you're Sony's over ears. Those are going to be better like if you're going to fight and you want noise. Canceling Air Pods Pros. Rose are not going to be good enough for that situation. The the high pitched noises coming from children. Whether it's it's screaming and laughter or joy are are no match for the ANC on the air pods rather are no match for for that noise that said in almost every other instance. I've used them in. It's been tastic a walking through the Convention Center here in Orlando. I've had him in sometimes without even having music. Playing in the noise has just disappeared. It's been really really great. So a big AAC fans of the new airports pros And then finally the reason that I'm recording the segment. The reason that Simone wanted me to do this is I needed to give you. The listeners stars my thoughts on the morning show and and listeners. I regret to inform you. The morning show is good or at least I like it like it is. I said this on twitter and I'll reiterate it again. It is extremely Mike and that frilly frustrates me okay. Because here's the thing the acting is great and I don't think anyone had any doubts that the acting would be good acting as a great the show if I'm really being objective about what it is it's okay. It's not great but it's certainly not like you know it's it's it's not some great like Tier One television right astounding settle that I really like it part of it might just be. I'm I'm a big fan of all of Aaron. sorkin 's shows about television. The the two shows he wrote about Keith Olbermann sportsnight and newsroom. I loved I also was a fan of studio sixty on the sunset strip and end other than sports nights which is by all accounts is objectively a good show. Neither the newsroom. northview sixty were good shows does that. I really liked them. And I like shows about television. And that's Kinda how I feel about the morning show. I like it even though I can already see some problematic elements especially with how they treat of the Steve Carell character. Mitch it's I if I'm objective about it. I know this isn't great television. I really like it and when I was watching I. Binge watched all three episodes on Friday night a few hours before I had to get up for my super early like six. AM flight on Saturday and it struck me for a couple of reasons one instead of sleeping. I was watching the morning show in two when the third episode ended. I was so so so mad that I couldn't continue to watch more episodes so I'm going to be watching for the rest. The season and the next season two and I'm also probably going to be having to defend this on twitter when the numerous numbers of hot takes about the show. Oh come out. Criticizing it for not being accurate to the media industry or this or that I do have to say my own limited experience in morning television. I've never obviously been a host host but I guess it seems it Mashes the things that I've heard and the things that I've seen so I like it. I hate myself for liking it but I like get one final thought I mentioned this last week about the fact that the apple. TV PLUS APP is now available on Roku as well as the fire TV stick and I guess some Samsung and TV's This is the first time that I've used my fire. TV stick for K.. That I got for twenty five dollars on Prime Day on a trip and listeners. Let me just say one of my better purchases. I know that a lot of people Aka Simone are not comfortable having Amazon stuff in their house. Totally get it totally respect it Roku might be a good option but in my case I'm actually really liking this device and it. It's been a really good way for me on the road to be able to watch my I tunes and Apple. TV plus content and also have access to the broader ecosystem of APPS so if Especially for people who travel. This is a much better choice than an apple. TV because it actually lets you log into captive Wi Fi scenarios which the apple. TV does not let you so Just throwing that out there as a suggestion in for travelers is the fire TV stick for Keg. It's real good. It's real good and it's a good way to watch the apple. TV plus content as well. I love and miss you all and I will see you in another two weeks. You'll hear me router and another two weeks by I'd love it. I love it. Just one listing for remove off. This topic I went and saw Terminator Dark Fate. Not Once but twice this weekend nice I think it's extremely good and not to spoil anything anything but This is a film where John Connor is. The future leader of the world is not the way the plot goes and there's been a really big backlash online from people that feel. This was disrespectful to the Terminator Legacy Blah Blah Blah. and to me I I have to Sousse man. I kind of interpreted as these are. People that are frustrated seeing A woman actually. Three women take over the Terminator Franchise uh-huh and I can't help but be thinking about that Wim thinking about the different The difference in the reviews of how I perceive Steve This and how alive the reviewers which happened to be men Perceive this because to me the morning show is it's it's not an easy a conversation about the metoo movement it's not clear villains in in heroes. There's not a clear statement. They're trying to make their reveling in all that complexity. But it this is absolutely about women that have been really pushed over to the side and not taken seriously. I think that gender dynamic a bit of why I'm experiencing the show a little differently if that makes sense. Yeah Yeah I definitely appreciate that. I think we had Karen Han Review it and she did not particularly love it. So that's definitely not a universal experience. But I do appreciate that clearly. Colors your experience. Lewis show gap like who the show is for and who is speaking about and to Hey folks this episode of rocket is brought to you by squarespace. Make your next move with squarespace squarespace. Let's you easily create a website for your next idea with a unique domain award award winning templates and more maybe want to create an online store. Maybe you want to create a portfolio or maybe you want to create a blog. squarespace is as an all in one platform that lets you do chest that just exactly all of those many things. 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This week about a group of researchers who realized that they can use lasers ranging from sixty mellow out lasers that are powerful cool to regular five Milwaukee lasers that you would find in a cheap laser pointer to actually manipulate relates Speaker devices such as Amazon Echo speakers Google homes facebook portal and even android and iphone phones smartphones. Although there are some layers of difficulty to that that we'll get into later but the basic gist of it is that they realized they important. The lasers At the speakers and the the speakers for some reason they don't quite know why yet would interpret the lights input and the changes is in frequency like the the laser blinking on and off or even the laser increasing decreasing in intensity. They would interpret that as sound and so Okubo maybe with laser pointed out it speaking quote unquote certain frequency. Would turn off the lights because it thought it was being told to or for example A smart speaker might open a door. Because he thinks it's being told to so this obviously opens it's up a lot of adores metaphorically and literally about security which I'm sure we'll get into but man what a what what an interesting experiments yeah I mean interesting and terrify him I mean I have timid my Home Pied I should admit this probably my home pot is set up to Work with a lot of my Door locks are also in home. Kit Hit you know if I remember correctly in this Article Home Pot was not one of the devices. They tested this. That was echo but all the same This this is It's very concerning and the thing that is most concerning about this is Go straight through glass so imagine when outside outside your house aiming laser at a speaker it will just go straight through the glass in. You will never hear anything when it's issuing these commands so Very very troubling US security concern. Yeah they found. They tested sixteen different smart speakers and found that almost all of them registered commands with a sixty Millo laser from one hundred sixty four feet away. which is the Max Difference Distance? They tested With smartphones things. Were a little better. It did still work But with the iphone they had to be thirty three feet away and android two with two android third funds that they tested. I don't believe it says which to They had to be. You can only be controlled from within sixteen feet so hey yeah androids doing something right on security. I mean you know I think what are they doing because again again. We don't know we don't know why this works. It's it's just a you know. It's just a complete coincidence. Not Hard to figure out is vibrating. The microphone in some way in its is is triggering. It so I it's it's hard because I use Siri all the time and it is a very convenient thing thing and there are accessibility things to consider here too. I do think that we want voice voice. Accessibility of information formation smartphones. I do think that's good but this is a very serious concern here and I think maybe there's not a great reason. Listen to have your locks tied to your smarts in your home. Maybe leave that on your phone after you have to go through the screen with the thumbprint son Sir or the face. Id or and I think they're even simpler more analog ways to subvert this such as Keeping well I guess you can't be expected to have your shades down all the time but keeping the devices away from windows and stuff with Yeah it is such a pain in the butt. Yeah Liberty just rearrange my home Go ahead ensure that. I wonder if there's a kind of glass imagine all our homes with like one way glass on on them. Oh horrifying so Google says that they are looking into this Amazon looking into it Apple and facebook have not commented commented yet But like as you pointed out there there are some devices that do offer additional protections such as Tiejian DNA face ID for the IPHONE and IPAD so that would be a way that people could put a barrier between somebody. Activating their phone with the laser Honestly with the IPHONE. I can't imagine that scenario. Where is it? Where's the where are they? Are they in the ceiling. Is the hacker in the ceiling with a laser. Because that's the only place that my phone is sitting because otherwise it's in my pocket or it's in my friggin in hand. The so yeah trying to eat for that. Guess I this is getting really serious but I read a book recently. Called dawn of the Cold War or by John P Carlin. Who was one of the He prosecuted cases with Robert Muller at the FBI and In the aftermath of nine eleven people don't know this Robert Muller worked very hard to the nation cyber security and John Carlin was one of the people working at the FBI that lead the way and something he quotes a speech Muller gave very extensively Talking about how you he no. It's like we moved into this digital part of our lives. And we have this house built out of Straw. In rather than Dan securing the walls were shoving more and more stuff into the house is not just our music today. It's not just our emails. Its financial records to access to our home and we just keep putting more and more stuff in there and you know this is. It's just the latest security vulnerability. I believe that we we've kind of introduced her life without thinking about it. And that's really scary. You know yeah I totally agree and I think it's kind kind of a case of like for me when I think about data and how many people have their data in the cloud in some way a or. It's almost a case of as long as we're all doing it. There are so many people doing it that maybe someone else will be targeted and not me. I think that's kind of the kind of linked to what you just said about stuffing more things in the house like y'all they can't all collapse right. We just have to keep trying. We just have to keep putting things in there and see if it'll get fixed. Yep So scare story we're screwed. Don't make enemies and don't keep your smart speakers near windows such as in the home home cooking Blue Apron. I need by home pot in there to listen to awesome podcasts. I know you do a this. Episode of rocket is brought to you by paying them. That holiday shopping season boxing day and Black Friday are just around the corner. I'm going to be looking for some deals. What might I buy online? 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Here's another better property go in there For the promises his promises and they went to this new property and it was just like a flock house that was filthy and full of beds and then the next day they were told they we have new guests coming here. You got to go. Sorry I property is still being claimed Odier So they had to get a hotel and she did not receive. Receive a refund She did I think she managed to receive a partial refund after going through AIRBNB and this process felt so suspicious and strange to her her Because the second property was so a dirty and it looked like it was completely misrepresented in the photos online and the address was wrong so when she put in the initial address from Airbnb the property. Just wasn't there. It was like in the back of House on this street so she started looking into it and she found basically a a network of fake couples. AIRBNB accounts so it'd be like. Oh Yeah Becky and John Manage this property but beckon. John's property pretty looks a lot. Like Kelsey in Steve's property and all of these people are like maybe reviewing each other's properties even though they're like staying and other people's properties in the same cities that they live and rent properties from very strange so she started reaching out to other people who had gone through the same experience that she hadn't found. Yeah I was the exact same being moved at the last minute to a different crappy property and then never getting a refund and some people lost like thousands of dollars. It's because of Airbnb both like cancellation fees that the renters control as well as AIRBNB general The way that they make it difficult to get full refunds. If you have if you have not completely cancelled your your stay so if somebody if you arrive to a place in you're like across the renter's telling me I have to go to a different property. It can feel very unsafe to just cancel the whole thing rather than being like okay. I'll just go to the new property. Whatever you say? Hey I need a place to stay in a strange city shirt So people were not cancelling their orders and then of course not being able to refunds For it and after publishing publishing the story in Vice Alicante was contacted by the FBI who was curious about the story. OREO wanted to look into it. Since then. There have been a lot of developments but BRIANNA. I ain't GonNa Hunt to you to get your initial reaction on this. So there's a lot to pick apart here simone You know what I think is the biggest takeaway here is you know airbnb is looking in an IPO next year right and they built this company up by it. At this point they have no system in a place to go. Check to make sure that the properties you're staying at actually exist into real. They you know system up for that whatsoever and I think is so telling that the F. B. I.. Contacted the writer advice. Before you're AIRBNB. Got Back to the Ryder. That's really really bad and the other thing that that was really really telling from here. And I've had this experience on airbnb where you're really it. Talks about how people feel disincentivize from giving honest reviews news about their experiences on airbnb because if someone retaliates with the a negative review right back at you like maybe that's going to affect your future ability to stay in different places so I guess my thought in reading this is it sure seems like Airbnb has prioritized iced prophets to the point where it seems like it must be very fertile ground for scammers. Yes and I think that that is only reinforced forced for me by the response which came today from Airbnb so After the story was published AIRBNB did not respond to its search until today when you know post. FBI contacting the author and that becoming quite public AIRBNB has made need some changes. They have said that they are going to start the process of verifying the seven million properties. That are on AIRBNB. That'll be completed by December. Twenty twenty so imagine if you will the horror of seven million properties that may or may not and you know most of them probably are fine but again. This is not a one off thing where one person got stabbed. Multiple people have gotten scammed by multiple both fake accounts And furthermore it's just. It's frankly kind of unbelievable to me that they've been in business for ten years now eleven in years now actually and there was no system in place for verifying the safety or existence of the properties. Beyond what the the owners of those properties put put online. Yeah absolutely and You know the thing that really gets me here is it's a simple stupid scam right. We've got someone that has a building and they're reviewing their themselves without their accounts and they're going through and setting all this up and they're making fake pictures from other places and and bringing them all these properties doesn't match the listing. It's just it's it's. It's a really obvious obvious scam Yeah I was just saying the timing of this to me after this whole article has come out after the FBI has contacted the author. Now now. They're saying Oh yeah we can and should verify are seven million properties that to me. The timing of that just reeks of A. We knew there was a problem. We didn't want to deal with it or believed that we couldn't deal with it and now we're in trouble now. We have to deal with it it right. I guess I mean Simone de you use AIRBNB when you travel. I have and probably has as the people in this article. Article said will continue to do so because I am problematic I guess for me maybe some of this is privileged. I may appoint where I can and you know I don't have to save every single dollar sometimes by you know it's I've tried it. I've just had so many bad experiences with it I remember one time. I booked a place in San Francisco for a conference and it looked great in the pictures and all of that and I show up down there. It's literally released a dorm room where I'm sharing a bathroom tire floor and I'm like nope. No air conditioner. No nothing in its. I don't now I just I think I guess I've never been able shake the feeling that they don't they don't check and make make sure it's safe. And that is the number one important thing for me when I travel of them accents. And you're right about that. Yeah The other changes that they're implementing in now are a guest guarantee where if the listing does not meet the stand accuracy standards as of December fifteen. This year you will get all of your money back Jack And they're also creating a hotline so that people can get in touch with airbnb twenty four seven to talk about problems Also unfortunately after a shooting happened at a house party around Halloween They are banning unauthorized house parties I'm not I guess that they're kind of looking into preventative Risk they're identifying suspicious reservations. John's to stop parties before they start. which sounds like a lot Wish probably another safety thing to get into predictive risk assessment. But that's a can of worms for another day Anyway like I said to me it feels like all of these are really common sense responses. They're you're good responses. But they're things that I would have hoped a platform that is frankly responsible for the safety of travellers going to unfamiliar places To some degree I would have expected. I would have hoped I would have hoped they would have done this sooner. Yeah if nothing if just for the cold Clinical reason of avoiding legal liability evening. They would do that in. I guess when. Tell me if I'm wrong on here but it's hard for me not to see this in the wider context You know the the we work. IPO fell to pieces. Says and obviously we work is very different Company the AIRBNB AIRBNB actually has in common prophets projected But what it it really strikes me as you know we work their entire thing fall to pieces right before an IPO. And and it's hard for me nutsy. This is like an eleventh hour. Oh my God don't come in. Don't regulate me don't have a big FBI case like prosecuting me. It just seems like an eleventh hour. Move when they did. It should have been done a long time ago. And it's funny that that you mentioned the we work because one of the things that stood out to me as I was reading the letter from AIRBNB. O'Brien Cherokee was this beautiful beautiful sentence Which I sent to you over? What's at but I'll read it for the listeners now quote unquote are real? Innovation is not allowing people to book a home it's designing a framework to allow millions of people to trust one another and that to me is just like the most is the most we worke stuff since we will. Yeah Yeah I mean I imagine them smoking up in writing that statement and actually I want to bring it back to I guess One of the comments from one of the people that Alicante Talk to in her initial article said quote unquote. AIRBNB is doing that hand. wavy thing that tech companies is do where they say. We can't solve this if they wanted to solve it. They would figure it out that I think really drives it into the realm of like this is something. This is one one of those problems that happens because of new technology that is encountering a human problem that was not predicted and then not responded responded to in a reasonable amount of time. How do you feel about that kind of charge? Being lobbed over the net there I I I realize this is a strong statement but I I feel like there is a a moral rot at the center of the Tech Industry where we have. We've done that. You know we place growth above everything else and then we run into these harder social problems in it. It just always seems to be well someone else's problem you know you certainly see this with Social Media Facebook Y- you know it has hugely detrimental consequences There was a great piece in pace this week. Talking about how Google's AD monopoly has this is Led to part of the journalistic conditions that lead to deadspin happening and the dissolution there. So I completely agree. Are you with that. And I've been saying this for a long time. We've got to start having more discussions talk about morality with the things we built. Because I've come to the conclusion a lot of the time we're making the world worse and I think we're just not having honest conversation about that I think that's fair. 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We are really working on putting together a field program meaning people out knocking on doors every single day of the week. There's only so much it I can do before I will physically die. You know that is what we're doing We've got a I am part of some movie called Netizens of go screaming with that tomorrow. I believe at Boston University and other than doubt your fundraising knocking on doors. I and just doing all that political stuff. Cool well this week. I'm Mahalia. I'm editing videos. I'm making a show. I am doing a lot of wonderful things. And then this weekend's going to come around and I'm GonNa do nothing but what I did last week. I was a guest guests on an episode of the batter in literary literary podcast saw that it was so much fun. Bree we recorded. I was so nervous because they're both like super smart. It's sorry let me back up. It's a book podcast about good books And they talk a lot about like the great works quote unquote. I mean it is about the great works of the literary Canon and the hosts are both super educated academics So I was so nervous to go on and talk about Hemingway moveable the feast but they were so kind and welcoming and I set a lot. Oh boy did I talk a lot. And that episode is available now at this powder in podcast is the Bee's side to their episode about the movable feet a moveable feast so go check that out I think at some point we need to have like an episode rocket. That's all about our favorite authors view. It's clearly heinlein. Clearly Hemingway`do weird side slip of the time. Oh you go yeah for me. I don't know I have so many. I don't think I can name just one line. I'd like Heinlein. He doesn't isn't. He says a lot about human nature but I think his work is ultimately pulp. I don't think it's the best stuff ever done. I think James Essay Corey. The expanse novels have tremendous literary merit He's just whips off unbelievably beautiful pros and has so much just to say about human nature. I think he's probably the greatest contemporary writer in my opinion but we should. We should have like A. We should fight it out on rocket sometimes. We all heard Corey. Not Hemingway who was a hack. That'll be the first episode one here. Yes we can talk about tech but like the tech of the Mechanical Press Game-changer we'd have to bring on Glenn Fleishman for that. The yes loose like an expert on that so ra bree. Where can we find you online you? You can find me online at Brianna on twitter. A developer Brown Wu on FACEBOOK and if you

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Clockwise 287: The Opposite of What They're Doing

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29:59 min | 1 year ago

Clockwise 287: The Opposite of What They're Doing

"It's time for so two hundred eighty seven of the clockwise podcast from relay FM recorded Wednesday, March twenty seventh two thousand nineteen Kalac wise four people four TEK topics thirty minutes. Welcome back. Clockwise tech podcast. That's just half an hour of Ayla celebrities talking about TV shows. I'm your co host Dan Moore, and I am joined across this wild and wonderful internet of ours. By my co host, Mr. mica sergeant night into day mica. I think you mean Oprah. Nobody really. I brought the lights down for use of it. You could come out, and then we can bring the lights up in there. You are. But it kind of lost lost the world something where does that work on podcasts? Did not. Well, this is of course, the tech show where we talk about four topics with two fantastic guests to my left. It is my very good friend, the co host of podcasts such as turning this car around the rebound. And of course, most importantly, the speedy era cast, it's John multi John. Hi, dan. And I don't know what you've heard about knee. But I am not in ten billion pockets. I've heard nothing. A lot of confusion about that this week. But. And to my to my left is producer and host of podcasts. Over on the twit network. It is Megan Moroni Alamagan. I'm ready to talk about. There's a lot of enthusiasm here today. Let us dive. Right. The heck in the first thing. We're gonna talk about is game subscription services, which are becoming sort of the next wave of things apple rolled out apple arcade this week, or at least started talking about it. Microsoft has had their XBox game pass for a little while some of the other providers doing their own thing. And my question for you is is this overall like is the subscription all you can eat or buffet-style man must be lunch time is this a compelling way to play and by games. Or would you rather be paying up front is all a card is we've been doing or paying the playing free to play games that have become so dominant. John tell me all about your games and your feelings. I think my preferred method of paying for games as just a pay upfront and then be able to play the game as much as I want to. I'm not a big fan of do some free to play games. But I'm not a big fan of that model, particularly because another it always seems like they're trying to nickel and dime. You after that? I would rather just get that over with at the beginning and not have to deal with the bunch of ads or not have to deal with them constantly popping up. You know, asking me to buy coins or whatever. The thing that I like about this what they're doing is is paying the first of all they're they've collected a bunch of game makers who make games that. I think that I will you know games that have either already played from these studios or the things that they showed seem like the kind of things that I would like to play. So I'm sure I'm going to sign up for when it starts and just see how it goes could be the kind of thing where I will sign up for it and play for while. And then stop paying for it. And then sign up again when something else new gets announced, it can be the kind of thing that you walk in and out of as you desire the thing that's kind of a Downer about that. Although I o s isn't really great for this to begin with. But the MAC traditionally has been is I like to play old games. I keep games as old as like myth and the original halo and stuff like that. And I like to go back and revisit them after years. And if this system seems poorly designed to be able to do that. So. I think that's kind of sad to lose something. Like that. For me. I think this is kind of the perfect opportunity if you will because I'm not a big, I don't keep games on my phone. I'll play some games every once in a while that you know, people are super super into super talking about and unload them in play them for a couple of days. And then I'm kinda done with them. And so the games that I tend to play are the ones that are kind of the studio games. They're the ones that, you know, cost five six bucks up front, and then they're not free to play wait for your tile. Your, you know, your diamonds to regenerate games. So because of that, I think that this is kind of the perfect option because honestly as little as I get out of games in the first place having to pay six bucks every time that game comes around versus, you know, maybe doing a subscription where I can try more where I normally wouldn't try more because I know that it's not gonna stick around. This would be an option in an opportunity maybe to find a game that actually does get to stick around on my device where normally they would just all go away because I'm only trying one every six months or so so this one I saw this excited me. So certainly compelling for people that I know Anna little compelling for me. Megan what are your thoughts? I am excited depending on the price of this subscription, and like, Mike, and John these are the kinds of games. I like, you know, just well-designed you pay pay at front, and then you don't have to think about it anymore. Your. Have to buy an outfit for your character. They come with beautiful outfits. So I'm excited about that. It got me thinking about like Netflix and apple music and even apple news, which I just signed up for. I mean before Netflix started producing all these TV shows, I watched much less TV. But once I was paying and subscribing to that, then I watched more of it same with apple music. I wasn't buying one hundred dollars worth of music for the year. But I'm happy paying for that subscription. And I'm listening to more music and liking it, and I'm hoping that will happen with apple news. And that might even happen with this game subscription service because these are beautiful games. And I don't, you know, some of these games that you look at their like fifteen dollars or ten dollars. It's a lot to pay one off. But, but if you're subscribing to you might play more, and I do think of that is sort of a healthier habit than some of my other habits like scrolling through net, flicks or Instagram. I think that's might be a way to relax in the future. I subscribe to it. So we'll see I on the fence a little bit about the price. But it is a certainly compelling offering since like many of you these types of games that I do tend to get really excited about and play. What I'm intrigued about especially as apple contributing to the development cost of some of these games. I'm curious to see how that meshes in with the kind of with how the payment works for developers. Right. Like, if you're not buying these games up front, and how is this divvied up like algorithm is apple using to figure out? And is it sustainable for those developers? Do will there be enough volume to kind of keep people in the in the in the black as far as like making money off the games that they're creating because these are expensive time consuming endeavors to make right, and they got people to pay and you want to sort of create a sustainable living of being able to to put out game. So I'm very curious to see how that pays off there. And how that might change the developments of game development. The developments Gainesville. What was wrong dynamics of game development? And yeah, I think it could be interesting from a consumer's perspective as well. So I'm excited about that. I'm looking forward to seeing how it plays out. Thanks for your thoughts on that. Let us go to our second topic, which comes from John. Okay. One of the things that apple introduced there isn't this week was TV, plus in that introduction was a thing that you could watch on the internet. It was Dan thought of it as a good way to introduce their talent pool, which I think is true. But it was also sort of confusing for some and boring for a lot of people. I think but I wanted to ask this A-listers group. What is the one thing apple could do to make its original content? Compelling to you and to get you to pay up in tune in. So for me, I think it's honestly gonna be the opposite of what they're doing. And I'm not trying to be funny about that. They are clearly putting their golden eggs in two or three tiny baskets, and golden eggs tend to be big. So I don't know how they're going to fit in those tiny baskets, but they are focusing on. What seems like three four five six kind of big idea project show type deals, and for me the thing that I really tend to like about something like Netflix is the vast library of different content than I get to sort of peruse through and find shows that I like when I watched shows depending on what it is. It might just be kind of a background noise kinda thing or I maybe I discover a new show that I didn't know I was going to like that starts out sort of a background thing. And so if you've got six or seven shows that are these. Super expensive shows that they worked really hard to put together. And they are these these shows that you know, you're supposed to kind of pay attention to every single moment in. That's not how I tend to watch content unless it's like a movie, and I think that's why I like TV shows. So I think that the way that they're going about it just doesn't work for me in the way that I tend to consume that content. So yeah, I I would find it more compelling if they chose the Netflix model of like spinning a bunch of money on producing a lot of content instead of spinning a bunch of money and producing a little bit of really really what they consider good content is your argument. Their shows are two interesting is that what their shows are too expensive. Lambs e make it what are your thoughts. Well, I'm excited about the morning show. And I am also excited about the Camille in the Johnny show about new immigrants and pretty much nothing else. Excited me at all. I love Oprah and her documentaries looked interesting, and I would probably watch them, but that's not really a series. So I would probably try it for those two shows. But I have so many other shows, and so many other things that I subscribe to that I might not wanna pay more. I'm might wanna pay more. If they gave me a free iphone for. Unlike to do. Right now. Hoping. But maybe like three like cloud storage, which they probably won't do, but they could at least bundle in apple music. That's the very least they could do which they probably won't do. And the thing. I'm with Mike about the eggs in one basket. I'm not sure if I fully believe that this because golden eggs don't really break in the problem with having one too many exit basket is that they might break. But okay, I'll give you that. Not to be making. But to be picky. But what what I love about. Netflix is they've given voice to all these people. We'd never heard of all these shows they tried everything and poured money into people that traditionally Hollywood didn't trust. They're like, oh, no, no one would watch show about, you know, with with this person in it, or, you know, like they did that they gave those people voices and every single person that we saw at this event with someone we've already heard like they made a point of showing diverse voices. But it was diverse faces that someone else had already given a chance to and everyone was like, oh, yeah. Okay. I'll give them that. So all these people were people we knew already, and I want them to give people voices that didn't have ways before. And I think like the Johnny will we'll do that with his job. But you know, that was the thing that that worried me the most and made it really different than Netflix even Amazon prime video that sort of plays into Apple's elite. Well, it's part of the rich. And I think also. When you're when you're launching a platform. I think part of their intent was to put their sort of best foot forward as it were and to lead with a lot of these are famous people that draws you in. We don't know. Right. Like if they're going to be building a giant platform giant streaming service. They're not going to have ten shows. They're going to have twenty shows probably thirty shows. Right. And at some point, I think there's a strong argument that they will be giving voices to other people, but they probably wanted to start off with like the name brands in some ways. So we'll have to see how that develops. I think it's a really good point for me. I think I don't mind these sort of appointment television genre that they're going for. I think that tends to be the stuff that is compelling and draws people in because you can't get anywhere else. But to sort of take what I think Mike was saying pivot slightly on that. I think the part of the problem is they need a sweetener in terms of what else is available because if they do really only have ten to twelve shows at launch there's a question. Of value even HBO which produces fairly few original series. Although a more and more as years go by they have a catalog of movies and other things that you want. They have all of their TV shows from their last twenty years, you know, there's a lot happening there apple is trying to build something from scratch. It's really hard for them to do that when they are not using existing IP, and they are not as far as we know bringing any sort of library content. So is the ten dollar a month price, for example, for TV plus equivalent to a ten dollar a month. Netflix subscription when Netflix give you so much more quantity. And apple will certainly make a quality for quantity argument. I'm sure, but it may be sort of a harder sell when people are looking at the overall using comparing which thing if I can only afford to subscribe to one of these which one do I subscribed to. Yeah. And that was going to be part of my comment was the back catalog of material and one of the things that I think that they could do and it doesn't. I mean, I think they've they have doing the foundation series. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. They are. Yeah. I think that they talk about them getting the James Bond's. Oh, yeah. The universe. And I think that that fell through right? They didn't end up doing that. But I think if they did something like that where they got some sort of existing thing that people are used to watching and enjoy then they would get a lot more people to be interested in in their service because you're gonna wanna tune in. If it's somebody that, you know, a character that you know, in stories that you like, and these may be characters that we come to know income to like that they're that they were showing on Monday. But at this point, we just don't know this is going to be compelling it. Well, that is to down two topics to go, which of course, means it is halftime here on clockwise. This week's episode is brought to you by our friends at borough. 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You know, which ones have stuck around which ones have gone away sort of what are your thoughts in general on that kind of odd in a little bit difficult to get to option on your smartphone? I guess depending on whether using IOS or injured Megan will start with you. Well, obviously it g keyboard because. There's I felt like I couldn't really express myself before the bit Moji. Keyboard came around us it all the time. And you know, it's it's much better than the bit Moji little app in I message because it's just you can send them they're bigger. And they're better, and everyone that I show that there's an actual keyboard get super excited about using that I've tried a ton of other ones they've all sort of gone away. And I think part of that is like you can't have too many because then you have to cycle through them. And it's too hard. So something has to be better than the standard. Keyboard the emoji keyboard in the bit mode. Keyboard for me to add it I went in when I saw this question. And I forgot I had the techs expand or keyboard in there that I had never really used. And so I put that in there, but already like when I tried to get around. It's like, oh, one more is just too many. But I enabled it. I'm g board is a great third party nonstandard keyboard, but. It's not so great that it's worth having just grow through the keyboards when I'm typing. Yeah. I think that it's nice that the option is there. But because of the way that it's implemented. It it often feels kind of not, you know, not really thought through. I've used a few in the past. I've used like the swipe typing ones wipe and swift key. I've used g board. There was like a gift keyboard, I tried for a while. None of them really felt that much better than the standard keyboard, and I'd ever really I tried to use the G board one for like a week because my curly. No. You gotta give it like a Wiki. I use nothing else. Remove the standard keyboard? It's at and I did that for a while. And it was you know, certainly, see how one can become used to it. But in the end it just became too frustrating for me. So I went back to the standard built in keyboard? So in general, I'm not a big fan of the my Jewish apple would improve its own keyboard. But kind of feels like it's like well third party keyboards done. We never need to fix our keyboard ever again. And that. And that is a little frustrating at times because I feel like typing on the keyboard could be better. So yeah. Hopefully, they'll hopefully at some point though, improve it whatever ground zero is for this question. I am the opposite of that. Because I not only do not use a third party keyboard, I have never even installed keanae. And and to Dan's point. I am frequently frustrated with the Iowa's keyboard it. So I'm not exactly sure why I have not done that. But I think some of it is I I've seen some of them. And I just think like the swipe thing I'm like, I feel like never gonna get used to that. And I don't want to having used the Newton years ago and palm pilot. It was like, I don't wanna learn something new. I just like I want to close the door that new thing. So I think it's probably a little bit of of looking over people's shoulders and not not really being all that impressed with what I was seeing and also just being lazy. So Dan if you could. Just copy and paste what Megan said and make the voice a little deeper. It is quite literally the same exact experience. So for me. I love the bit Moji keyboard. That's the one that I use as an extra one. I literally have the text expand or keyboard as well haven't used it. I turned it on because I was going to ask this question. And then my thoughts on g board of the same as well. Tried it before, but it wasn't enough for me to make the switch something with a bit Mogi keyboard, that's kind of fun. If you have your Moji app connected to Snapchat because Snapchat owns bit Moji. Then you get access to your friends who also have been Moji, and there's a little button you can press in the top right corner of that bit Mogi keyboard where there are two faces and you can choose one of your friends. And then it creates a scene of you. And your mortgage firm that you choose. And so you can do ones that involve both of you. It's a lot of fun the bit mode so bigger than they are in the eye. Message which is why choose to use the keyboard. So yeah, the the one that I use is bit Moji one. But it there's no it's not a keyboard. And I have also tried those be swifty swooping ones. And those ones just aren't for me either. All great bit Moji answers there. Let's go to our last topic which comes from making. My question is of course, much more important or maybe less important than ending. And this is interesting because of all the announcements, I think Mike I said your partner asked you about the apple card one of my kids asked me about the apple cart. It seems to be like the thing that people that some people are most interested in like, maybe not necessarily the people that are like so into the apple world. So I wanted to know what you guys thought will you get the apple card. What are your thoughts? Why why are we not getting as for why not? I haven't decided yet their arguments for why not I don't really need another credit card. I think that's the biggest one is like. The idea of a guy who buys apple products because I like playing cool new gadgets. The idea that a credit card has become one of those feels kind of weird and key to me. So I'm not like immediately running out to get one. That said there are some practical uses for it. I do like using Apple Pay a lot and the idea gained cashback on Apple Pay is appealing and especially getting the three percent back on apple stuff is also appealing because as I looked up later. It's not just the stores, but include things like I tunes and your cloud subscription. So like all that money. I'm already giving apple I could get a little bit of money back on that. And that to me has appeals in it. I like the idea of what they're doing with the US or the credit card, but most what I really like to see taken away from that is other credit cards adopting similar behavior in terms of nicely presenting your transaction history being able to log that information more intelligently and just sort of being a friendlier credit card, but so much of it just seems like it's a. Thin veneer of apple over sort of the traditional monster. That is the credit card industry. Yeah. That is completely true. I think my response is basically yours, but just turned up to eleven because I like like like you said like I already have so many credit cards like I've got so many credit cards. Why not get one? So I am sure I'm going to get this credit card. I mean, the whole thing like Dan does bother me a little bit. And I know there's been a lot of talk recently about like should some of these large tech companies be broken up. And the apple starts becoming its own Bank. Really starts the seem like maybe this is a this company is starting to get a little much power certainly over me, which they've probably add for too long. But yeah, I'm gonna get definitely going to give it a try at least just to be able to talk about it intelligently. And, but I think know from the benefits for somebody who is in Saudi was so deep in the apple world already ready. I'll probably keep it. No. I'm not I I tend to like to just us. So I have I've got my credit card, and that's fine. I tend to not like to use a credit card if I can help it. And so I have my Bank. Issue debit card, but then I also use the square cash app and the square cash up for the longest let you. Have a physical card, and you get to draw whatever you want to sort of be laser etched onto the front of it. And so mine has my signature, and then also has a little dog and some doggy bones super door will. And I really like it, and I don't need to have another card. I mean, maybe that's the thing in the future. Like, I said my partners into in plans on applying as soon as it's available. So I'll be able to sort of understand the experience him. And the cashback stuff is nice and the way that it helps you figure out, you know, interest and all that jazz is cool. But not not really something that I need or one of the things that were mentioned, it was the least interesting to me. I think in the in the keynote last thoughts on that. Megan. Well, I just wondered if they etched doggy bones into the titanium. What you get a now that might change my mind is the thing. Yeah. No, no, no, no. No, no. Yeah. No. I I might try it. But you know, it's like the idea of why not like there is a reason why not to get credit cards. I mean, the more credit cards that you get the worship credit looks like the more money that you could possibly spend. So there is a reason. I don't know. I'm kind of appoints nerd, and I've been working. Through. I have chased reserve card which I love which is so much better than the other airline cards that I used to have our airline miles because it lets us any airline. And so I think once you like spread out and use more than one year kind of limiting your benefits you can get. So we'll see. But right now, I don't think so all right. That is our topic. There is just enough time for a bonus topic. But I to tell you about our other sponsor today. 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So take the hassle out of IT support. Get a fully featured trial by going online dot com slash clockwise right now. That's online dot com slash clockwise are online for their support of clockwise and all of relay them. All right, the boat a topic for this week. We talked about TV shows earlier, I want to know what's the latest TV show you've been watching and preferably enjoying John. I'm only an episode in a half in but I've been watching doom patrol. It's a it's a reverence in just kind of interesting and compelling, so if you're not too hooked up on the attached to the comic book characters you might enjoy it better. So I have just started rewatching what I still think is one of the best animated series to grace our televisions in terms of storytelling. It's Nickelodeon 's avatar the last heir bender very very good. Bring it back. The feels I have been watching your the worst on hill. FX? I guess I don't know that I don't have channels. But I watch it on Hulu, and yeah, it is both horrible and wonderful or so highly recommend those are good calls. I just finished the first season of Get Shorty, which is based on the same premises. The film from the nineties I want to say on bayside cellphone, an Elmore Leonard novel about gangsters who go to Hollywood to make a movie, and I think the first seasons on Netflix. And I think there's a second somewhere, but it's not an ethics yet. Anyways. Thank you all for that. We have reached the end of our show all the remains to think our guest this week. John molds. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you. I give the rest of your week back to you. Thank god. We may not be any more podcasts together as far as I know. You'll find out on Twitter tomorrow. Rony? Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for having feel like inviting Dannon John to podcast. I am Mike. It's our last podcast of the week too. So presumably we'll be back next week. But until then let us remind everybody out there watch what you say and keep watching the claw, buddy.

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Clockwise 335: Some Sort of Dongleage

Clockwise

00:00 sec | 9 months ago

Clockwise 335: Some Sort of Dongleage

"It's time for three hundred and thirty five of the clockwise. Podcast from relay. Fm recorded Wednesday February twenty. Six Two thousand twenty clockwise four people four topics thirty minutes. Welcome back clockwise. The Tech podcast takes one forty eighth of your day. I'm Dan Moore and I am joined as always across the Internet of hours by my good friend and Co host. Mr Micha Sergeant. How're you doing today? Mica doing well. I am curious about your math. There is that given to sunrise sunset. Or we're looking at sort of the whole twenty four hour period twenty four hours. Okay Gotcha I. She seems good. I'm no I'm no math Allah. Just don't get me wrong. I maybe know math all just but I can tell you that we have with us today. To FANTASTIC GUESTS MATT LEFT. It is a writer if otographer and coincidentally the author of take control of digital photos. It's Jeff Carlson. Welcome Back Jeff. Thank you thanks for having me on. Thanks for keeping me away from the math. A pleasure a pleasure as always you know. I just thought a shirt that just says do math not math and I think I have to have. It made him but while I'm working on that before I work on that I am so excited to introduce the guests to my left. It is the web editor and producer Texas Standard as well as the author of access for all and a podcast host right here on relay for parallel pods. It is Shelly Brisbane Hello Shelly. Hello Mike thanks for taking time out from your t-shirt business so happy tab. I will note. That parallel is a math term as well. So we're really mass up today or doing and why we don't do any mass during because like just keep listening very good very say all right. Let me kick things off today. With my topic. There was a story in the past week that the European Union may mandate a universal charging port for smartphones. Which in this case would be. Usb SEE my question is. Do you want US PC on an iphone should apple be forced to make an iphone with USCC? Do you think this is a good idea or is it just a little too much government intervention? Jeff what do you think I think this sounds like a great idea if you sit in meetings all day and you have a team of people who handle your technology Otherwise I think basically like the people who are trying to to make this happen Uscca on the IPHONE. I think it's actually inevitable. It has benefits. It's already on the IPAD but Apple shouldn't be forced to make one. I haven't really read up a lot of the detail behind this but it sounds as much like a bunch of companies trying to handicap apple as it is trying to make everything better for everybody. I in reading up about this so originally I had covered this on my show today and the original reporting seem to suggest that the EU was mandating The charger on the port on the side of the phone. Not The port on the side of the actual wall charger. Then it came around the mandate was about the in wall charger. And now it's come around that. There is a proposal suggesting that there are multiple options that these different folks can do. The different manufacturers can do so the EU sort of laid out a bunch of different options. Here and I think that that is that makes it makes me feel less of a concern about government. Overreach e weirdness Because there are some different things that folks can do. If apple wants to continue with the PORT THEY HAVE. I find myself now. More than ever having devices that are lightning and you SPEC- and everything else in between struggling to find the right chord when I need it and if I just had to take a USB core around with me everywhere it'd be so happy so yeah. I would love to see us on the IPHONE and apple has to be forced to do it to make that happen. Then you know what Shrug Emoji. That's how I feel about shelly. What are your thoughts? I feel like that. Level of abstraction is where the problem is because. I have to separate how I might personally feel about a USB port on my phone so that I don't have to have so many cables and dangles with the method by which the EU or any governing entity mandates it and all those levels of detail that you listed Mica as options. That sounds great but the more specific languages in terms of requiring say we will now have USB well at some point. You won't be the standard. They'll be another standard. Do we have to then appeal to the EU? And say hi. This is no longer kosher. We need something that is a more emerging standard. I think that ends up being the issue. Another issue that's sort of and I often forget about it too even though I write a lot about accessibility but there are accessories that are used by folks with disabilities like hearing aids and switches and various things that haven't necessarily kept up with the latest port requirements. And so there are some people who don't use iphones eleven because the headphone Jack has gone. Because that's an issue for hearing aid users and so any sort of rules like this need to either force the device makers to provide some sort of dog Lynch for those folks who no longer whose equipment doesn't support it or there needs to be some sort of supporter subsidy or whatever for companies to bring their technology their assistive technology in line with whatever. The Standard is from the phone vendors. Yeah I think you you Kinda hit the nail on the head there shelia. I was thinking of it more. Like this is like the stars aligning right like right now. Usb See it's hot it's new it's on a lot of devices not on all devices but then we will coalesce and everything will have used port and then they will drift apart again when the next thing comes along because you know a decade ago the you was kind of considering doing this with micro usb ports and I think. We're all glad that they didn't do that. Because then we been stuck on those for the last ten years right so the issue with with this being sort of top down I think is a stuff moves faster than you. Faster than the government just inherently. Like that's just the way. The economic market works so. I think that it means the government's either always playing catch-up or if they have to design a that is flexible enough to account for future changes. And there's certainly some things that lasted a long time. Standard Challenge the headphone Jack. I think it's something as simple as like the you know where you plug your phone in the wall right like the wall socket hasn't really changed that much but also limits the advances that can happen in those areas so. I think that is the big challenge. There I agree that. Uscca is inevitable on the IPHONE. I think it will happen and that will be great but again. I think we're lucky enough. That will live in an era. Where maybe we'll briefly have one cable for everything and then we'll move on again. Thanks for your thoughts on that. Let's go to our second topic today. Which comes from Jeff? So I'm curious to know if you use a home security camera either like an outdoor or indoor camera or maybe a video doorbell has been a lot of stuff in the news about Ring and their security and how it seems to be a joke And so does that make you a want or not? Want one of these devices. And does apple's home kit secure video making more or less likely to get one now so first of all Ring Video Doorbell. I will never own one of those I think that what that company has done in trying to create a surveillance state with police departments across the United States is horrendous and irresponsible and I don't support that company or its decisions in any way whatsoever. I it's disgusting. Frankly you're waffling on the issue. Exactly Yeah Yeah. I have no clear home. Kit Secure video functionality. It makes me even more likely to want to own more of these because it genuinely is a really great way of using these cameras in general There're different settings different granular settings. Give you so much control over how the camera works and then on top of that because it with the logic circle camera when you use the home kit secure video functionality. It basically turns the camera into a home kit secure video camera it takes the the Logitech firmware and replaces it with a new version of the LOGITECH. Firmware that doesn't have connections and access to Logitech servers anymore. It just serves as a home kit secure video device and so all of that stuff. The recording is stored in the cloud. And you have as much space as you need for that and then you can get as granular as deciding only when I am away from the home or when everybody who's part of my home is away from the home. Do I want you to actually record footage and only want you to record footage if you detect something outside of that. I don't want it to record anything but I would like the ability to stream from the camera so that I can check in on my home and then when people are actually at home it it turns off recording completely and only allows you to stream from the camera so basically pop in and see what the Stream looks like. Yeah I love it And I plan on If I if I need to get more cameras from my home they're going to be those logic cameras that work with home get secure video. Sorry for that. Long Answer Shelly. It is your turn. Take it away from me. You are full of information today. Micros awesome. I consider getting a ring doorbell a couple of years ago long before Amazon. Acquired it and long before all the surveillance state HAP- stuff happened and I'm very glad I did not because I would hate to have wasted my money. I think the extent of my interest in a security camera is a doorbell camera or maybe an outside camera but I haven't done it yet so clearly. It's not super important to me. Although home kit makes a big difference. I was looking in preparation for this. At the home kit compatible devices that apple lists on its site and it looks like a number of them are still to come and so I would want to wait a little while and see what new devices come along. Set it in forget. It is kind of what I'm interested in. I like the idea of granular settings but I also like the idea of a device. That just works in once. I do set those granular settings. There are some specific things I want. I love the idea of being able to look remotely at. Who's at my doorbell? And I WANNA be able to record activities packages and such. But I'm I'm not and I know there are people who have cameras inside their house. Which appalls me? But that's you know people's choice. As long as they can control their own data. That's and I have a side of my house that I would like to have a camera perhaps but beyond that I'm I'm not super into it but home. Kit does make it more likely than at some point. They had a couple of cameras. I don't have so I do have a Canary Camera in my office which is off the day but does have that cloud recording stuff which. I don't love but I still use it. I don't really have any interest in putting one outside in fact if I you know got rid this Canary Camera Book. Tomorrow to replace it either. Just because I don't feel like it gives me anything that I really want or need live in an apartment so my changes outside are limited. I also work at home so I am home like ninety percent of the time. There's really not as much value for me so I certainly have no interest in a ring based on all the problems. They've had a home kit secure video. Technologically is more appealing but I think in the end it comes down to for me that like this is just not a device that solves any problems. I have so at the moment. It's not something I'm really looking into Jeff. Any last thoughts here. Yeah basically I'm echoing both you and Shelly I also work at home. Although the the setup of my house is such that I often can't hear if somebody is at the front door so you know numerous times over the years. I've looked into getting like a video doorbell and every time I keep running into you know either a privacy issue or you know. It's some company that you've never heard of and for something like this. You really want something that has more of a track record and definitely not the ring track record so You know I'm I'm glad to see home kit secure video finally starting to roll out in devices and now. I'm definitely going to have to go to some searching on that Logitech circle. Thank you my But Yeah I don't have a really good reason to have one yet but it feels like it could be useful in a couple of situations all right well. That is two topics down two topics ago. 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And you'll learn even more about potential opportunities to be rewarded for your commitment living healthy one more time the health I q dot Com slash clockwise. Our thanks to you for their support of clockwise and all of 'em halftime has reached its conclusion Mica. Would you have forced today Simple question if you're given the opportunity to own a fully autonomous vehicle. Would you take that opportunity? Tell me Your thoughts. Your worries your questions etc about autonomous vehicles. Sort of what makes you not want to do it. Or what has you very excited to be given this? Opportunity Shelly. We'll start with you. Only God what time will it be here right now so I don't I cannot drive? I have a visual impairment. Which makes it inadvisable for you. And for me that I drive so I want one right now and so in essence. Every time I get in a car driven by somebody else. I'm having that autonomous car experience because I have no control over what's happening. Let's just assume I'm with a safe driver. And if I WANNA go left when they want to go right that maybe sometimes I can convince them to do it so so I feel like I'm more ready for the autonomous car experienced. A lot of people might be. I think the biggest danger in autonomous cars is actually people so if we are in a situation where all. The cars are autonomous. Yes something terrible could happen and you could make a pretty good scifi movie out of it but I think the greater risk is the mixed situation where you have cars that are driving themselves and people that are also trying to drive in cars that are trying to avoid the people and pedestrians at the cars. Don't take into account all those things are true and all those things are bad but I still want my Thomas car please. Yeah that's a good point I so I have to. I feel very divided about this from a perspective of someone who is technology interested in the way that we use that to advance humanity. I certainly couldn't say no do experiencing it and seeing how it works and all of that and I think shelly make some great points about where the real benefits come into play as someone who likes driving and has driven for many many years now and owned a car I really don't it makes me nervous. It does and I get it. I get. Computers are much better than humans at a lot of these things but I also feel like I know enough about software technology that the idea of those same kinds of algorithms and software. Powering things that drive around and when our autocorrect doesn't work right and all that I don't know it just makes me nervous. It makes me nervous. I I am not ready for the autonomous car future but I will be dragged kicking and screaming like everybody else by an autonomous car. I'm actually yes. I agree with both of you in the sense that I would love to have an autonomous car although I think I would prefer to not have to own one I would prefer that they were just a lot of them. That came to pick you up and take you somewhere I mean I think the way that it's likely or the way I would like to see it. Happen is to have small areas or zones where inside that zone. Everything is autonomous cars. Because then you have a little bit more control and you don't have that that that unknown quantity has shelly was saying of people who are driving n people who aren't paying attention and You know pedestrians who aren't paying attention all of that so if you have like a smaller area that it's all autonomous then there's some level of control and I think better safety And then you know perhaps that gets larger and larger and larger as as things change. Just socially I also do like driving so perhaps You know like minority report where everybody has their cars that go automatically. But then you can like break out and go into the countryside like that's that would be acceptable But again you know. All the software is often done to meet shipping deadlines and get things out there and be competitive against other companies and I would be nervous that oh well. Maybe they didn't entirely vet the safety of this So yeah it's it's kind of a mixed bag. I yes. The science fiction fan in me wants it. But if it's GONNA happen it's not going to be. You know like not tomorrow at all. It's going to be some time. Am Baby Ten years? That might be optimistic. Yeah except not in my fake reality where it's right. It's coming right now. No all great answers Dan. I do have some nerves about it to what brought this up for me. Was I was having a conversation with With I think it was Leo and Lisa. Laporte and My mom and we were. I think it was my mom anyway. It doesn't matter I. We were having conversation about how around this area and I'm sure everywhere else to even look around and you just see people distracted driving and someone's playing the trombone when they're supposed to be driving. Leo Saul someone. I think it was Leo again. I'm sorry but the story was that they were cleaning out their hairbrush. So he he's looking and I was Leo. He was looking forward and he saw this woman Taking her hand out the window and wiggling her fingers and he thought that she was signaling that she wanted to get over and so she kept doing it. Sort of a disco move and then wiggle fingers at the end so disco into jazz fingers and he wasn't sure what's going on. He finally gets up next to her and sees he. She had her hair brushing her hand and was using her other hand to pull the hair out and throw it out the window while driving home in my mind a series of devices and a system that is in place that all. It doesn't have hair. It doesn't have a hairbrush. All it can do is focus on the road and drive. I think that's fantastic. And so I wish that I lived in this little world that I created for the scenario. In which self driving vehicles are. Thomas Vehicles are fully ready to go and I can hop in one and Jeff. I like your idea better. I don't want to own it either. I wanted to be a system that I can sort of call upon it comes and picks me up and I go to where I need to go and the whole time in the car I can be doing things. Instead of focusing on the road it would be great. Thank you all for your answers on that and for playing with me in this space. Let's move to our final topic. Which comes from Shelly? Perhaps I'll record the next episode of clockwise from my autonomous car. Act Yeah Anyway. So it's it's popular to ask. How are you dealing with social media and a lot of the answers? I hear very similar. Well I'm pulling back from twitter but really love instagram which is owned by facebook and a. Lotta people reconcile that but but my question is not is instagram awesome. Do you love it but my question is. How do you use instagram? As a consumer. Are you somebody who follows follows follows? Everybody wants to know what's the CELEBS are up to. And what influencers in your area of interest are all about or you think of Instagram as a social network where you're following people that are either in life or adjacent to your life and the bottom line question. How many people do follow instagram? A really good question. I'm looking right now just to just to see so I follow a one hundred and forty six people and going through and looking at my list here. I think a hundred percent of them are people that I have met at least met in real life. They may not all be people that I'm like super close friends with but they're all people that I I actually no. I don't really follow any celebrities. They just not a thing that really that I go there for. It's not something I'm interested in seeing. I'm just here to sort of follow t- pictures of I kind of think of it the same way. A lot of people do use facebook because I keep up with family and friends and just see pictures of the kids or pets or were there visiting and stuff like that and I like that. That's just fine and I think. That's why instagram despite being owned by facebook. Why don't feel as much of a need to pull back from it? I don't follow that. Many people don't follow a lot of people posted on so I basically just there to sort of drop into friends lives and see. Hey what's going on? Like what are you doing? What are you up to? And you know maybe comment on their pictures. And it's it's very low key for me in that way in a way that twitter isn't. I don't find myself getting into a lot of political arguments on instagram. For example so I feel like I've I've reconciled. I'm very happy with where I am on the instagram front. Jeff Year photographer. What do you think I'm a photographer? So I follow six hundred thirty two people earlier and those are not people that I that I know personally however the ones who basically show up a lot in my feed thanks to all the various algorithms fortunately Are People that I know and so I use it to to just you know get that visual record of people that I know. I do follow celebrities. But they're usually either actors or directors that I like. I never ever go to whatever the pages that's like what's trendy now like I could care less what's trending now. A lot of. It is also photographers and it's interesting because as I've run into other photographers For example I was in Sacramento and at a sunflower field and there were a bunch of photographers. They are chatted up a guy and basically like the first thing you sort of do like instead of business cards. Or what have you or even emails now? It's it's like. Oh what's your instagram. And you connect in that way which I think is you know a a nice change and it's also something where it. It doesn't involve a lot of interaction. I don't have to reply to somebody on twitter and like you I typically use instagram as a way to escape facebook and twitter when I don't want to be bombarded with you know a lot of the the political or you know news of the day I wanna go. I WanNa see some pretty pictures. I WANNA see my friend's cat. You know that sort of thing. Let's see I follow five hundred forty one people. I do not know all of them Sam I am and some of them are people that I know in person for sure and some of them are not. I want to follow accounts. That are I follow some sort of artists musical artists and actors. And things like that that I enjoy before I was doing podcasts and presenter type stuff I was a graphic designer and worked as a freelance graphic designer for a long time. Do follow a lot of art accounts in graphic design accounts to sort of see inspirational things And then I follow some sort of funny accounts. They usually little comex so I follow instagram for laughs for inspiration and for the joy of seeing my friends posting photos of animals and Things that they do so yeah. It's it's all sorts of things but yeah I don't interact outside of pushing the like button really for the most part. What about you shelley? Well I guess my purchase closest to Dan and by the way I would follow all of you follow one hundred and eleven people right now entities. I should say and I would guess about ninety. Or so as I say people I know or adjacent to people I know. And the rest are their media. Entities a few of which? I'm part of I follow the fun accounts and the ones that bubble to the top are two or three accounts that actually feature animals and I am not apologetic for that in any way. If Bodega cats are big cat. Rescue as the of my instagram feed. It's very happy day for me and I don't interact. That was part of the question that I didn't didn't add boots that I thought about asking because I'm hearing lately about people messaging each other and instagram and it took me a while to realize. Oh that's the thing you can do. I've commented on people's instagram's but I almost never have like. Dm interaction that kind of stuff. And I like it. As as just a pastime. I like it as a way of keeping up with friends. It's actually a lot less. It's lower maintenance than facebook. Even where my cousins are? They're mostly not on instagram. But I feel like I don't have the obligation to comment or interact in anything like a deep way instagram. I can just look at things. People post the stuff I tend to post is sort of Quirky and on brand for me. I guess but I'm not trying to get more followers. I'm trying to entertain the people that follow me back when I followed them so I appreciate your answers and I'm glad to know that there are others out there who are in the the three digit instagram follower following following numbers. All right that is four topics which means we have reached the end of our show. But we've just time for a bonus question first though I wanNA tell you. This week's episode of clockwise is brought to you by indeed. When you start your hiring process you might have a few questions. Are you GonNa get good applicants to choose from? How can you narrow down by education experience? And how will you know you've made the right? Hire indeed is there to help their millions of great candidates that use indeed everyday to find their next opportunity. You can post a job in minutes and you screener questions help you quickly. Create your shortlist of applicants. Plus you can skill test to your job post. You can be confident in your applicants abilities. 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I put a little whiskey in my tea and lemon tea and honey and tea with honey for me. But I can't resist a Ginger Ale. That is to me all right. That is the end of our show. All the remains for us. Thank our guests this we Jeff Carlson. Thank you so much for being here thank you. I'm glad to be here and Shelley Brisbane. Thank you so much for joining us. Thanks for having me back and Mike. We will be back next week but until then we remind everybody listening out there. Watch what you say and keep watching the clock by everybody.

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Clockwise 327: Chiming in the New Year

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Clockwise 327: Chiming in the New Year

"It's time for episode. Three hundred and twenty seven of the clockwise podcast from relay. FM recorded Wednesday January first. Twenty twenty clockwise four people four tech topics thirty minutes. Welcome back to clockwise the tech podcast that's ringing or should S. H.. Chiming in the New Year. I am Dan Moore and I am joined across the Internet by my good friend. Mike ojos missed or MICA sergeant. Happy New Year Mica Happy New Year. Jojo we made it. We made it to another another year another decade by some some counts. Don't get a stone and you don't have an attent out. There is not enough time. There's never enough time but there is enough time for this very show in which we invite to fantastic guests to ring in the New Year with us and it just so happens that they are the same guests to help us bring in two thousand nineteen. So it's good to have have them back and to my left. This week is the editor at Max Stories. The Co host of APPS stories and dialogue. It is John Voorhees. Welcome back John. A thank you very much happy new year. It's good to talk to you all got beat New Year. Happy to have you back and to my left is the community manager and micro dot blog as well as is a prolific podcast was voyager caster cast and of course the weekly review and come on. Everyone's favorite driver. It's the one gene gene McDonald. Hello Hello and happy New Year. Happy New Year to you all right. Let's kick off twenty twenty with our topic today. What tech product do you most want to see in twenty twenty weather something you want to buy or just a trend that you want to finally catch on twenty any twenty John? You know what I want. I want the apple. TV to become the centerpiece of my home entertainment system. I really want apple to lean into what they've been doing the audio I mean we've got air pods now. Airports pro home pods all this stuff. What I really want though is for the apple? TV to the metal and there to be a new sound bar an apple sound bar a new game controller that actually uses the air pods technology to reduce the latency and allowed gaming to real good gaming to finally come to the Apple TV. And I think as part of that the apple. TV itself needs to get beefed up needs more storage. I needs to be faster. Let's make this not just an accessory to television but something that you can rely on if you want to be the center or of the entire experience from soup-to-nuts. It feels like the right time to do that especially with all the emphasis on services like TV plus and Apple Music six. Oh and of course apple arcade. So that's that's what I'd like to see in twenty twenty okay Dan. Can you mark this down. John is not invited back on the show because he's still my answer Sorry January twenty twenty one year. You're specifically not the whole thing. I would love the whole thing but quite literally just yesterday. I was trying to show someone the brilliance the wonderful wonderful creation the amazing jaw-dropping beauty that is beyond say visual album lemonade. And of course this is a musical experience a and you need good sound and I have this third party. Sound Bar. that for some reason when using HDMI ARC will at times times. Just stop out putting sound for half a second and then start again which is just unacceptable. When you're listening to music and I had this moment where I said you know what would be awesome is a sound bar made by apple? One that pairs perfectly with the apple. TV Apple TV. has this cool feature. Now where where you can sink You can you can do wireless audio sinking using your phone and you stand a little bit farther away from it and then you hit this thing in a play awesome tunes out or some tones out and then it can try to better sink the music but if you're sound bar just decides to shut off every now and then then you've got an issue and so yes yes. I am adding one to John's in that I would also like to see a sound bar from apple as opposed to just a two home pod setup which is not my cup of Tea Jean. What are you most want to see in twenty twenty? Well I was perusing what might appear at. CAS is this year and the thing that caught my attention and apparently a lot of people's because it's such a cool idea and also very visual is an indoor gardening appliance. So something that you can grow indoor vegetables. Well they would be outdoor if they were outdoor. But they're indoor because there's an appliance that controls the climate the the temperature the light and. LG is coming out with one that will be we like a modular piece to go with their refrigerator. Who so I'm not I mean? It looks really cool. They say it helps beginners grow vegetables and and to be perfectly honest not really the gardening type or even indoor plants like run away from me. The store I wouldn't good excuse me I would love to have Some vegetables for myself but also an An ample supply of wheat grass parsley for my roommates. The Guinea Pigs saw yeah. Of course I am really I want to go back to the indoor plants running away from you because I feel like you've discovered some new talent of these plants I'm very imprint. Very mobile plants and I am also a so. I probably trump before. But I'M GONNA keep on it. I I need to replace my macbook air this year. It's an eleven inch air. It's from two thousand fourteen. It is starting to be a little bit long in. The tooth battery. Doesn't do as well as it used to even asked her replace the battery. So you know I'm I'm like right. It's time it's time for new laptop but right now if you are a consumer laptop user. Apple's lineup is a little bit sparse arse. The macbook air is really the only consumer focused MAC laptop. And well. It's great and if it is the option that is available when I go to buy a new laptop ops eight midway through two thousand twenty ally and I will be fine with it but I would love to see something that takes the spot of the eleven inch air and the twelve inch Makpo. Both of which of course have been discontinued. And whether that's just another new small version of the macbook air or some new ultra light laptop from Apple. I would really Really appreciate something in that vein. That's really light Really Kinda small and has great battery life and I'm willing to take a trade off of of power just for having something that lasts a lot longer and you know if it also happens to be built around a custom apple chip all the better But you know whatever is available sailboat. That point I guess I I guess I will deal with but I think it's time for apple to sort of expand having done such a great job with pro lineup in the last few years. I think it's time for for them to focus a little bit more on the consumer. Let's more options at the low end of the laptop market. So all good answers all around Thank you for that. Let let us go to our second topic which comes from John All right. Well we've looked ahead a little bit already but I WanNa look back at twenty nineteen and ask everyone. What was the one tech product you bought in twenty nineteen that made the biggest biggest difference? Cheer Life How about you Mike. So this product came out on November. Remember twenty eighteen but I did not get one until it was twenty nineteen and that is the eleven inch. IPAD pro I had the ten point five inch IPAD pro before and I love that device. It was my hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy And I would use it all the time for both content consumption and content creation is really nice. I quite like apples. Keyboard cases this is for the IPADS and I would often write using the IPAD And so when I upgraded to the eleven inch it just it operated on something that I already loved making it even better It's an incredibly powerful machine still to this day. The Apple Apple Pencil version number two is fantastic. And it's all around just a super great device that I Love love and cherish. Frankly Jean what about you. It's interesting. That was my backup answer. So thank you for taking my top answer Mica but you'll do love that new IPAD And Yep so the thing that changed you know made the most difference in my life. This year was my iphone. Uh not the eleven but the ten or the X.. Whatever the biggest one that I I mean the one that I was using all year until the new one came out but but So I guess that doesn't count as a twenty nineteen protect purchase. Either but That's the way the calendar goes The the east him in the in the phone. Because I never used it before I had never been abroad with a with. An e SIM enabled iphone before but this year I was a spent What ended up being just two weeks in Slovenia as a trip trip? You know sort of personal educational trip and I. I decided to activate the eastern news software. You know through through which I could buy some data and that was really. That was great just in itself because I always kind of dreaded the idea of going somewhere and buying a sim and actually replacing placing the physical Sim and Mike my phone so now I could have access to both and just super cool but then what happened of course to me. He is that I had this this accident in the middle of the trip and I still could use my iphone. You know. We're so while. I was on my way in the ambulance to the hospital after I blew out my knee in Trieste my I texted my sister a photo of me in the ambulance. And just don't what's going on but I will let you know you know and if I had been you know if I had no phone or phone that I couldn't use I don't know what would have happened to me next because I couldn't even stand up to use a payphone at that point anyway so I don't even know how to use foreign phones so that really being able to communicate not just text but also I could tweet and I did just tweet one thing just saying like hey might not hear from me for a while and that helped me connect with people who I knew in Europe who helped me on this journey of getting through the hospital crisis in than back home for surgery. That's a very very useful feature. I agree For me it was a technology and a piece of hardware together around midway through the year in fact while I was at W WDC. I ended up ordering a replacement head unit for my car so I could get one the head carplay in it and I installed that myself and I've been using that for the last six months or so and I really love it. It's made a huge difference in my life being able to have My the map APP in my dashboard and to be able to use all these carplay features that let me do things like you know easily manage media and stuff without having to fiddle with my phone. My wife really loves it because let's her do stuff. Well we're she's being the co-pilot air without requiring Mita sort of take my eyes off the road And I I just think it's a it's such a great rate is a great point of the things that apple can accomplish and the way that our personal technology has started to supersede. These sort of lacklustre technology analogy often included in cars. So offshoring that to your personal phone or your personal device and letting you use that for directions and podcasts Assen music and all this stuff I fain insanely useful and Always Thirteen made some pretty substantial improvements to carplay which was even better. So I've been really delighted to have that and it's really just changed my driving experience and I'm I'm a big fan of it so I a highly laud carplay way as my my favorite thing from twenty nineteen John any last thoughts here. Sure yes so for me. The big difference was the Mac mini that I bought. What in two thousand nineteen it? It's a two thousand eighteen model. The ones that came out kind of towards the end of twenty eighteen and inspect pretty to be pretty beefy. And it's made ed huge difference because I used to commute into Chicago and so I had a macbook pro and that was fantastic for that situation. But as I transitioned to working from home more I found working in clam shell mode dealing with the buggy keyboard on the macbook pro and a bunch of other things just to become kind of constant irritants to get anything done and with the new Mac mini for the kind of work that idea which is primarily writing and recording podcasts. It's like this show. It's really perfect in it. It's GonNa be the kind of machine that's not going to be great for gaming or editing video or that kind of thing but you do have now with thunderbolt three the option of getting e. GPU which I. I like knowing that I can do that although I don't have one but I've been using this machine gene now for about nine months and it's been absolutely perfect and I highly recommend it to anybody who's looking for a a desktop Mac. That isn't going to take a lot of lot space. especially if you already have a display like I already had a four K. L. G. display. So I didn't really want to go the I mac route this time and instead stuck with the mini which I've had a couple of days in the past and They're nice little machines and this one especially with the upgrade that they got at the end of twenty eighteen of of they can. They can really SPEC them up to be pretty powerful. Nice all right. That is two topics down. There are two topics left but we must now take a break for halftime. 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There's so many cable there's so there's a three in one cable now from them for for micro USB USB see lightning that was helpful especially especially with the new ipad to have extra an extra thing there but one of the things I like about it is that they keep innovating anchor does and now they have a cable that a guarantee for life and because they've tested it up and bent it so many times that they can tell you you know how many thousands sometimes you can bend that little end of it and it won't fall apart and so people open them. They're kind of like they'd semi excited. But then I always here during during the year. Oh my God that cable that really like saved my life this year to have that with the extra heads or whatever and so I say you know don't don't need them necessarily on the on the twenty fifth of December. They might call you up in July and say thank you very much. Interestingly enough I don't I I have some things might might be considered technology or technology Jason. But we really didn't give much in the way of tech this year or frankly even received much in the way of tech this year. I think we were really focused on like consumables. Mobile's I think we you know. Having in the last week we started trying to clean out are a little bit and realizing how much stuff that we have that we don't use. I think we decided like I'm moratorium. Taurean on more new stuff but the two things I did gift that we're sort of technology adjacent one. I bought my wife a pair of Nice binoculars because we we When we were traveling on our honeymoon in last year we She got really into watching and like we would look at. The birds will be at one of our AIRBNB bees because there we had a bird feeder out front front and then when we were Doing a little trick. Ah Wilderness track to see some authors we also like on ourselves the checking out a lotta seabirds and so she was very excited but we only had a really terrible pair of binoculars so butter a really nice pair that we're hoping to get some use out of this year and then the other thing I bought was a little thing that I happen to catch on the wire-cutters list list of recommended stocking stuffers. And that was this little five dollar Gerber Chard which is essentially a multi tool. That goes on your key ring. That has a couple of flathead screwdrivers. A Phillips Screwdriver ever a bottle opener a wire stripper And the best thing about it is that not only is it smallest fit on your key chain but it is. Tsa approved so you can still carried on the plane. Because I used to carry a pocket knife places. You can't do that anymore so that's sort of helpful. Because I bought one for myself as well because I was like you know. Sometimes you just need a screwdriver driver and it's annoying to not have it and I love the idea that I will always have one on me now so nothing to techy but you know you're by John What are you well. I've got three geeky sons so I spend a lot of time buying behind tech for them but the thing that I was most excited about this year and that now I what for myself. South is a MAC maverick mini drone. So this is a DJ is smallest drone that they make. It's got a high definition. Finish camera on it. It's on a gamble. It takes amazingly smooth video and can go up really high it. It'll fly for about a half an hour. We've tested stood out a bunch in the neighborhood trying to see exactly what it's capable of and it's just a lot of fun. They've they've designed this one in particular to be one gram under- the regulation for the FAA. So you don't actually have to register at which eliminates a certain amount of hassle but you could still fly up pretty high like over one hundred feet in Zim around and take a bunch of interesting video. So that's that's the thing that I bought that. Got Me the most excited this year and now I really want one myself myself to try it for that for some sort of project that I'm GonNa Dream Up and do myself so we'll see that's excellent. I wasn't able to be the home This year for the holidays and so I wanted to send a bit of fun and a bit of chaos To to back home in so gifted space team game so for folks who don't know this is a game where you do a lot of shouting essentially you and whomever else plays the game. You're all trying to to fly a spaceship and so each person has access to a control panel and you all get these little printouts at the top of what. You're supposed to tell other people that they I need to do so everybody's looking at their screen while also shouting out what other people need to be doing. And then when you do things correctly you move along with your spaceship and it is so much. Fun Leo LaPorte played it. Live on air one morning Before we were beginning our show and immediately I knew oh my goodness my family has to play this. And and so I got to hear later about the ridiculousness that took place after they played Space Team so that that was a lot of fun to gift and then slowly but surely I'm working on getting everyone Both understanding and using one password so fingers crossed there that that goes over as well as I hope it will okay so it's twenty years since the start of the twenty first century. That's my story story and I'm sticking with it. It is there a piece of technology. We're using them that you still use now or if not what is something you used all the time. Time back in two thousand that don't use now boy. I wrecked my brain on this one because I was trying to think. Is there anything that I'm still using that. I was using twenty years ago and and I mean broadly speaking you know I was using a Mac twenty years ago. But I've been through many Max since then so not the same one certainly although it my twenty year old gold Mac is sitting in my office right now I can. I can see it from where I'm standing But in terms of something I used a ton van that I don't use now. I think the most obvious thing in this was just sort of you at its tail. End For me in two thousand but a portable CD player. I listened to music. I burned a music CDs including including some of those that you could burn. MP Three CDs back in the day that would cut like contain a lot more music and this was a year before the ipod came. Came Out And so that was kind of I remember walking around on campus with my portable. CD Player. And I very fond memories except for the time I used to work in a library in college and I had to reach shelve books and so I had my little book truck and I was walking through the stacks one day and I had a very long headphone cable and it got run over over by the book truck and the discipline flew off the truck and and like slid twenty feet and then ejected the CD which led another twenty feet and some how it still worked after all that which was pretty impressive. So yeah I I won't say I miss my disc men but it is amazing. How far we have come since then you know? I think I'm GonNa go with something that I'm not using any longer and that and that is My cable box. I got rid of cable a couple of years ago and I haven't looked back and I don't miss it at all. Well you know I've never. I never had a cable box from any cable provider or satellite provider or whatever. It happened to be that I liked I made the. DVR was always clunky navigating the UI was always difficult. And so now I'm just you know subscribing to various services in doing most of my Movie and TV watching through an apple TV and that's It's got its own issues and now you know we've now that we've unbundled everything everything. There's a lot to having to manage all that all the time but I don't miss the cable box at all so I'm glad that's out of my life who So something thing that I had back in the day Was a little Nikon. Cool picks camera mine was Green as is proper and I remember absolutely loved that thing taking photos on it all the time doing selfish before selfies kind of had a name name and using a mirror behind the camera to see what the viewfinder was showing in order to take those timed photographs and doing stop motion animation videos on them and all sorts of things. That camera has a special place in my heart and has since since been replaced with a smartphone so a throwback to the Nikon cool picks back in the day. Gene what was yours. Well I the thing I am still using not the actual thing again that would be nearly. Impossible is a printer so close to not using a printer anymore In fact my connection between my computer and the printer is is kind of Burke forked right now and I need to do something about it. But I'm not in any rush so And whereas having a printer you know firing it up and printing things out that was is like a regular thing so I think that's that's something we just gotten used to having less paper around. Yeah Yeah I wish I could undermine someday all right that is four type of just in time for bonus topic but before we get there Michael would like to tell you about our other sponsor. This tweak yes this episode of clockwise is brought to you by health. IQ Look at some point. In the last couple of years you've probably created or maintained a healthy habit. Good for you now. Whether that's getting enough sleep working out or just trying to eat the right foods. 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I have only one rule with New Year's Eve is that there must be chocolate cake and champagne and then anything on top of that is the bonus I can play games with My neighbors do board games and What I like about New Year's Eve now as we used to be the ones who stayed up up but we let the kids stay up their kids step until nine? Now it's the other way around. We we say okay. It's nine o'clock which means it's midnight on the East Coast and and the kids are like. Yeah we're that'd be staying up till midnight. 'cause they're teenagers Yeah it tends to be a low key affair for me as well I like playing board games and getting together with friends This year we will be slashed. Were in Florida so it might be a little bit different but looking forward to celebrating with some Champagne and some some warm temperatures. That'll be nice. That is is the end of our show and all that remains is for us to thank our fantastic guests this week John Voorhees. Thank you so much for being here. 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In The Clutch w/ Vince Carter

expediTIously with Tip "T.I." Harris

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In The Clutch w/ Vince Carter

"Thank you for listening to this. Podcast one production available on spotify apple. Podcasts podcast one dot com in anywhere else you podcasts. Watch your favorite episodes of expeditiously right now on the expeditiously Youtube. Page the so. It's like you can't touch anybody so you come to you. Come in with a little different attitude in my confidence. It wouldn't allow Kim coming out of high school back. Notice some Cagey Mac code. You know Shawn Kemp like but like now they coming in now. Expecting I I'm yeah I'm a rookie. Nineteen th that's us. Yeah that's GONNA be my team but it's much without early and that's the only difference that's been tough to deal with. You know I WANNA see guys. Come like if they will give you the keys to to the to the to the organization. I'd rather see earning so you appreciate. I'm a diverse individual. What is Your Family Mash is he? A travel is elated. They were all of it all of beach. Oh a kiss showgirl go took Andy and I show up. Lead a march own is all real real. This expeditiously I am to home now. The following experience not chest conversations stores expressed on his podcast meant to be an expression of purpose and truth. This show properly entitled. Expeditiously is a free exchange of ideas and opinions no judgment no previously beliefs. No fear you're encouraged to share your thoughts and ask any question as long as it's done speed. Nasr through true love and respect for others that we would change the world and speak truth to power wants short a time now without further ado. This is expeditiously and tip. Ti Hairs yes indeed. Welcome to expeditiously. I'm your host tipsy. I Harris now my next guest is the last NBA player. That's have been born in the nineteen seventies as impressive is that may be. He's also the old is at the plan. Lee Unless you are absolutely zero inside on sports you should know who are speaking of Jeff for my own amusement. Continue as I was saying. He's a professional basketball player presently for the Atlanta Hawks of former North Carolina Tar heel a high school. Mcdonald's all American drafted ninety eight by the Golden State Warriors who traded him to the Toronto Raptors. He's the only player in NBA history to play twenty two seasons and the only player to play in four different decades Dow. That's an accolade case. Forget man he's widely regarded as one of the greatest dunkers of all time again for anyone who'd been in a cave. You know what I'm saying for the last I guess twenty two years plea welcome and salute degrade Vince Carter. What had only crease excellent man. Welcome to traditionally man. No it goes without saying I'm. I'm a huge fan man. Okay look so first of all. Congratulations on twenty. Two me. Say I'm a fan as well as I go on told command later man. I highly appreciate it Bro. So tell me how how how is he. You know this as a career back man. You've had an illustrious career bre. You really really set the Bar High Hale high standard on off the court but it right now in this moment right now. He's let me say that first of all I'm at peace because artillery right. No it is what it is happens. I'm a realist than in in with that being said what was Played that last game when I checked into game for the last time to shot and saw go in 'cause right before I didn't WanNa go black and I was like game almost over. Don't worry but unlike you'll be on Season resulted in a couple of weeks. If it doesn't for the not this three diamond. It was the best decision I made in law umbrella because Dan was Locker Room start hear more about the pandemic in in in the facts of what it possibly could do it now. We're seeing what is done to our families in it was just like. Yeah this this Esteban this year and if we do is like it'll be a pleasant surprise. Let me say that not man I went out with a making. You know life is good man. I appreciate this. I appreciate on people that hit. Yes based on twitter light man you gotta go out the right way you deserve game and do all the I appreciate it but like I'm at peace fair to say it is what it is is how it is. I think our safety you know is more important than what we all believe our low to have final game and all that would man whenever we whenever they get back whenever they get back at it. I'm sure you will receive because just as far as as far legends go in basketball you know saying I must tip my hat to you bro. You know what I'm saying. You are the only player to play. I mean the play four different decades that Shit. They're crazy bro. Going through like the last couple years. I never even thought about that. I never thought about like I'm I'm blessed because I played against Jordan. You know in say. Join that that you know Jordan. Kippen Barclay Dim configure called John. Stockton loan so caught detonator. Obviously Kobe we all. That's my Air Indian. Obviously Lebron in this that a chance to play against some of the best that we consider to ever play the game so I. I'm I'm definitely thankful for the play for different decades to see a change to younger athletes. Don't do when they think it makes it a lot of things in life change registers like before you know what I got in a game. You Win the game you still doing. You know there's a lot of really are the stars. Jay Z. All these people like I was in the game when you guys started in the younger generation considered. Og is now an outright this Meyer. He's not people like we still doing it and I appreciate that. This is spraying son. Is that temperature is perfect. The breezes blowing flowers are blooming. The grass is growing. And it's time to mow your lawn. Thanks our sponsor manscaping. You can trim the hedges below the belt safely and efficiently now Those of you. Who did not know? I'm talking about your balls. 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I don't forget to you to Kober t APP. I is clean mask dot com man. You know what I mean. If you look into Trim Your Ball Hell Umass. Well do it in staff who was the hardest to defend who was the hardest to score against the New York Knicks as a team was the hardest scored where year in ninety nine ninety nine. We played them in the playoffs. Lose they we played them they swept does that was one of the hardest. I can remember it was tough. It was one of the hardest time to score against a total defense with that. We will I gotta add debt because he dies that I was like man because he ain't never get tired so you can. You can dog them all you won't you come back. Go back in. I gotta ask Daddy pipping into that. Because he was still lock people up he on the last day of Theme Still. So yes. Move to the toughest to defend. I mean we got a two man. Okay so what I was. GonNa say I can't name more. I'll say NJ CO area and and so you just mentioned the Land Dad's man I have been watching and captivated with you know just the the interior came from from them deciding to add a camera crew for some reason for this. That's just his last year. But mostly I mean you seeing some stuff from back but like this is so crazy. Just say we. We really live that. That's right watching this stuff. I can remember where I was at each game. They say even back to the Bulls and in the Pistons. I remember where I will each game that they suggestion or each game. They play back. That's what I'm saying and I'm a fan you know I was. I was adopted at first but i was a jordan fan as well and you know just when you thought you knew everything about the the bulls run winning six championships the bulls like you say when you see that i see a whole different light is i think is great for the younger generation to see how the game was back then by is a totally different game now just like ours compared it by foot for you your business if you see how we had to come home back like how you had to get in the game back in the day like it's a totally different using them saying we have social media like you also you had to put real working to to get on and it's the same thing like you had to put real work in to be a star it wouldn't let me go get touched by naba it ain't gonna it wouldn't even though that's great for the young generation see because they already know in jail they know of him but ain't they know tennis issue you know know he was a doll for real you know saying right now who watching net put yourself on that quote with guys right now could you handle man she a testament to his work ethic he said when he decided to wedding more and i thank for her leg game he said he will bleed feet will bleeding issue with him wanna change you know what i'm saying like who i don't you can count on one hand how many people go you know bloody feet in the same shoe but now straight yeah i mean that kind of dedication i think that you know has has has represented hill for so long and you mentioned now all of the details that go into the last dance you see what what's the genomes name jerry jerry krause krause. How often how much does? Kinda like ministration executive staff you know impede on a team's ability to stay together it depends nowadays is totally different back in the day. That's what it was gay management. Say this now. It was only a few people you know. The Legend legend the elite legends of the game. Right at that really can say whatever lie in J this about now you play with Nj and he say bill just no comeback. Didn't come back right. That's crazy as kind of like a no brainer okay. We'll feels back yet. Allow a lot of players. Couldn't say is not like that now this some organizations who with the younger coach. Who have that were in their first and second year? Don't have the power to run the team like they want to. But the the executive in the higher higher ups can say Nah Man. We gotTA play these guys. We spent all this money. We drafted on display. We got a player so they have more power than they have more power than than back in the day like I mean. They stayed out of it but at the same time when they wanted to saw they they say some listen but now management kind of controls had up now with young couples. I ain't nobody telling Popovich how to run his squad. You bet around. He's he's established how they run the risk of their other teams. When you have a new coach there could be like you bula eight nine Brad. Thank you play young so you know. Yeah we know who not ready yet. But you know that's how it is that well. What was I. Dimitrios you five championship and you want to change. You already. Know what you say. It makes no sense to me. Why are you switching up the plane? You Fi- championship senior. Bro Is Funny. Hear him say that because what he said after he's like okay but I don't know how wrong the run were less and NJ says planted. Let it player like when they lose their. You could talk your sheet. Will you know what maybe we need to research? But as long as they went in. Why would you even talk bad? Losing Breaking Rodman Scottie. Nj CUCO hand like that team was. Okay well we we're GONNA bring in some new talent. They had to be a high level of ego man involved. That's what he was. He had that he had like he on this team together. The greatest that's crazy s craziness. Man he had blood shoes. Now time about one point from the Pistons. The you know what I mean. There's crazy for for for An executive to even take sort of a an approach to business. What the wildest thing you experience like you know as a as a a as a young player you know when you say some welcome to the NBA tanks. She when you first coming into lead like just so some why should you like damn okay? I made two to three days winning the rookie year. I think was one when I was like Bro. I'm holding his trophy. Considered the best rookie decide right. You know what I'm saying and then hold up that trophy in the duck contest night in the end how everything changed the next day so I went from you know me. I want rookie of the year. Whatever whatever so. That was my moment. They kind of faded wings. What's HE GONNA do next dot contests happening doing what I did and literally the next day? If which. From a cool lifestyle to a rock star lifestyle issues like now after practice instead of talking to three for people in the media you talking to me and if you go to the row it ain't one or two people get autographed by to try to get you know. Fight crazy now Thanks go need security by secure. I never had like what okay. Yeah on the hill. That's what I was like was because so many Matt Light doing what we do played on stage put on a nice a great duck. Show people the put Toronto on the map in allies. Change your mind changing. Obviously when he goes on to Orlando to be a horrible. Do you think that was the best to handle? You've been a part of your team it as far as my career. I I think that our our wanted to petition right and it ended so early I think it would ultimately the best duo out of play one two point. Whatever you choose that in my career in you can just see the potential as I moved on a play Jake Kid at the Toronto Bread Lights. He made the game so easy. Monkey you what I'm saying. So he just he was. He threw the Broadway the outside. Oh I know what to do with it after that use. Mci and then you think of a plate with dirt You Know Have Panel B. Rob it right now. What I'm saying like all of them had different styles and and we come to different pull at the Yolk Strip right. That's what that's what I wanted. Rose Okay we could dominate together. Because like Jay the Best Point Guard. I try to give out the ball and be a facilitator win. He wanted to base the day. So I'm just GonNa be who I am and he made sure I was going to be the best that I could be. Same thing a play with it with dirt new dirt that but at the time. I was not the bitch but without coming into game I had to do. My job. Scored the Baltimat- you game easier for him. Sure and that was. I WanNa win absolutely now. What about your time that you spent you know as as a mental and og to trae? Young Kobo? I'll tell you He's in crazy. Incredible talent right. And that's what I said. I always every time I talked. My gotTa give Also coming into the League thank of win rookie of the year old attention. I started To that Trey young came into the game with a lot of attention social media attention which is foreign to up to me. As far as coming in 'cause we didn't have social media so just to see how he handled himself on. The social side was like I was impressed. He got it he got together. He wouldn't you know he just knew how to finesse. Duty Talking talking to say what you need to say. Do they need to do man? He's unbelievable talent. He wants to learn a he has fun out there in for smallest he has a player. Man He has. He has bitten game. tell you he's GonNa get better in a US what we see it now is just a young scratching the surface of what can be some Spanish support for expeditiously comes from our friends at rocket mortgage by quicken loans. Home today is so much more than it was yesterday. But it rocket mortgage home is still all about you if you need mortgage assistance. Their team is available. Twenty four seven to answer questions in office solutions from their home to your team at rocket mortgage is with you visit rocketmortgage dot com slash up to learn more call for cost information conditions. Equal housing lender licensed in all fifty states and MLS consumer excess. That all number thirty thirty. It's been a pleasure to watch you guys. You know what I'm saying like you know y'all have brought a a different level of energy to the city You know I had seen since Josh Judge Pachuco. You you know saying A. At tastes umbrella. I what I got here. I told I told fans in the media before we start I said look. We might not make the playoffs but just what she said. The potential you got young guys come play hard playing the game the right way but you see something like that okay. They trying to do some trying to you know what I'm saying. They ain't happy to be here just like deep boy he was put working night and you can see how much better we've got your two so like two years man. It might back. The fifty plus wins. The potential is just like you said Making the decision to you know what I'm saying to hang it up they go you know Some some yeah. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Although I do feel trae young it's shaping and moulding himself you know in to the leader day. What about the Nowadays BECAUSE GUS coming into game so young I think weasel organization organizations in general should not put that kind of pressure on a player to have to do it. I know what I came gals trying to show what I can do. WanNa win with you. Want him to focus on you. Tell them okay. If you need to do to be the go-to Guy Get US wins in. You know in the beginning. You can't do it. You don't learn the whole game because the game going like it's going fast against Okay no know to do this. Now let me start helping the people. He's he's starting to learning aspect of what I think. Even going his into his third year the organizations in my opinion would be fooled to feel like they have to give him. He has the veteran leadership to kind of lead got. He needs veterans to kind of help him and he can use his voice because I always tell them when things going back in time out before the coach walk in. I would like to to you. Timber don't talk to you you you the name. They need to hit the name. Get us where we need to be. And that's how you develop them habits little things like eight we gotta watch now. Wh- like go talk to your team. They need to fix auclair. Talk before the cops come in. That's right that's a key piece of advice. That's a key piece of advice. You know what I'm saying. You'll troops rally which you know in the Foxhole. That's important so tell me Bro. You play for a Lotta team and impacted the team's greatly that you play for He just an enormous amount of impact. But when tannery tie you Vince called Jerry's when they hang been sanity in the rafters overhead s just allow. Okay where do you will? What team do you want to have on Toronto Toronto started? That's that's what I mean. I stabbed I learned the game in asked. That was myself being six years. It will take what I learned from Jersey from Toronto and go to Jersey and go to Nick. I became the groundwork was built in Toronto. As a young star in budding star in I became the everything else after that so s how many teams playing for totally eight eight the tomato should be Landau Orlando Phoenix Phoenix to Dallas Memphis seven. Really okay. Seventeen Atlanta. Yeah Domino's of number sounds a man so as you exit out of this phase of your career entering into the next phase of your career eight who we live truth okay here in Sacramento you like a B. You sit there like it was a man did a year. Sacramento BIRTH SLIPPED MY MIND. I have to then so as is called a Man. I may like wait. What can you pass to do? I WANNA I wanna I WANNA do I want. I want to some broadcasting. I WANNA stay around the game. I want to continue to be a mentor. Some capacity I have aspirations of being a part of ownership group Omega on a team outright. Lie You know Mr Mj. But Mer go right but but at some point I want to be a part of ownership group. I can still be that mentor. That AENA IN I want to be the middleman to bridge the gap by the exempt for the ownership executives. I've been on the other side so I what we think on back to back some coming in late. Two Games losing three Could kind of educate some of those ones who never played the game before in other guys on the other side as well so I just want to one day? Hopefully I get that opportunity to be an executive Still helped young player like a trae young in general say so. That's my goal. I want to continue to do stuff I do in a community hold basketball camps since Do Christmas drives and thank you. I'M STILL WANNA keep foundation to do everything. I'm doing back home in here as well so I got a lot of things I WANNA do. You mentioned being a mentor to Young Guys. And you miss your relationship. We've been talking about your relationship with trae young. Who those guys for you you. I came into the lead. I'll start by saying my role model. Heroes Dr J. Number One. I now Vegas one in Vigo Basketball. And just the way he killed himself wanted to be Was was seen by other players around the league so but when I came in I came in ahead. Charles Oakley Kevin Willis Deeb Round Doug Christie Antonio Dame's all these vets was on my team as So that last game changing game I she move it move in like a month right to the locker room. I had six. I have five veterans. You know what I'm saying five. It's been in the game trevor. Now walk the locker room now. You might see a bit me. You know what I'm saying. So is a little different right. Oh you miss you Mr Man. Even you know saying a pillar of success man live. He was throwing-throwing us the rookie. Scotty pippin read. That's what you should do to me. He's shit ass cat. That's where I saw that I was like damn damn but I mean But to to so so. What's the the clearest difference between basketball then in basketball now the League physicality entitlement? You came into the game as a as a as a rookie in the nineties. Early two thousand you had to earn. It was no okay cool like yet. They're gonNA put your net positions to earn but Bradley you get beat up like it was a fight every night you it was hand to hand combat is now the game is faster. The game was slower so now it's easy to put your hands on people like you know. He's he's run enough fast. I can I can put my hands on now the game so ask like you can't touch anybody so now you come in with a little different attitudes. Mcconnell's leads a lot of coming out of high school back in the day. No there's some extra ones Cagey Mac. A cold You know a rain man Shawn Kemp like a few people's but like now they're doing one enduring yet but they coming in now expecting up. Rookie Nineteen That'll be my team but it's not by without earlier. That's the only difference. That's been tough for me to deal with. You know I wanNA see gas If they will give you the keys to the to the to the to the organization if I'd rather see earn so you appreciate eighteen yo million dollars and the power yeah Okay man now we gotta get down to question man. This is the question that got to ask you At the twenty two years you know what I'm saying leaving it all on the floor in the game of basketball decide to take Iran to the sunset as a legend right. Now Vince call does rain really metal at this point. Now here's why it doesn't So interesting I've been around twenty two year. That was the goal right. It is a go. I'm not going to quote unquote sell my get one gadget in. When I mean by that is that I feel like at this age. Forty three on the court is still being able to compete in play and do what I can do on the court. Yeah you could still play these heavy losses. Have you sow that you lost a step? Yeh Oh yeah for sure I know I also lost a little bit but like you know we sedale. That's go go go but I mean I'm a perfectionist. We are in our craft. Sometimes I get by. Who I don't want to buy these young fellows so bad but you know felony. Don't high little faster now. You know what I'm saying knowledge but my thing is if I go to differ another team out there that's primed and ready to win a championship. You know it ain't. It is not guaranteed that I'm play or lay a lot in a handled at At use my voice but can't use my skill. I want to educate Italian in Britain. game down to but sometimes you got to tell you that show him so which. Talk Matt and amazing when you tell them they don't catch home so so that's that's why is like Yeah WanNa win a championship? But I would go sell my soul and I just couldn't couldn't sit on on the end of the bench somewhere Like you're you're you're in my hand for chip in Iraq in don't feel like I was apart. I mean as far as I'm definitely a part of executive verbally My opinion can help. Educate these guys but at a works. Now you give me two more years when forty five and really came fake couple million to sit over on his best. That's different you about. Let me see what a seven seven or eight time also. Eight eight time all star. What would a wireless all star biggest deal available crazy Fayetteville crazy? I don't know how to the game right. And that's why I remember David. Stern said they will never ever ever be all-star game and so I don't forsee I was asked to see like now a NBA team. Going to vegas and know Dave started but I don't know where that big out of control and she was ever ages. Yeah but this way I was supposed to pet midnight. Damn yes that just left with drought POPs off because he he was hanging out with Of Light and then I thought about was like Nah. He's going to get on so now. And I was like Mom Jill and then that happened. Now be the man you know. I got away a man putting the hand in the situation and working it out. Now for those of you don't know man. Pacman that's the man who My home where Adam Jones who had Situation Vegas a fight altercation leading to Some exchange exchange of gunfire salaries him day. We're just left Kennedy Smith or guitar. And Oh my my my my early years early trap music years coming up in this shipment me a pet man renting the clue in and out of town here. La other parts of the country and he always been you know the same when you do go saying so. It did surprise me when he wasn't in the gas airport. You Know Jeff made me feel good. That he was in the right. You know what I'm saying Whichever Guy got away putting and using testimonies like pacman minds you know what I'm saying those who had to be drug through the fine order to come out clean on the other side So we can look back and you know Shaq experiences with others. Okay look man. Let's get to the bottom. As an insurance marketplace policies helps a lot about how unpredictable the futures. That's why shouldn't exist in the first place right. 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Okay you know so I was just like that was my goal is to one day. I want to be in the duck contest winning dot contests hold a trophy up. Get up Outta there. I didn't want to make. I want you to see me on the duck contests in. Us break me of year make a career like what you just see me as a dunk Biology see me as do that. Got a lot of skilled Hang up there you go. That's much I want to be. Boxed Nina adjust athletes? A couple of guys WHO's Who's won the dunk contest? Bid A couple of times. Get boxed in. Don't let when people your name. Oh that's right that that's not what I wanted. E-e-e-e-no took to be thought of as but I wanted to actually go out there one night in display my ability win one in man. The fact that were Kyle you you you seem like a very ma'am man reserve you know gentleman right now but our call center game and you got it in on the court you had you know he heads Shell You know Fisticuffs court which one. Which one would you say was the most memorable. Two of them The one I was thinking we play output nets playing the Spurs Russell. Bruce bone was a defender. You know somewhat a dirty player. You know he's sneaky little Dirty plays in in their web so I was shooting the three now going Ham. I was like I was having good night. I was on the way to at least fifty plus and happening against the Spurs often end. Not again timber took a three. He stuck his foot up under there in landed on. Kinda rolled over the the the official like UNC. That he's told me to give up in bruce ball random like the hat. I just got up turnaround in just going straight for him. I was willing to suffer whatever consequences diack outback and went to Doda Putts. In court Currently referee asked him to this day. I still could offer the jaw trying to set all that. I didn't even care. That was the one that I remember in the game. It was just bad blood between us for because I just felt like it was a dirty play that Nothing was done. Nobody reprimanded for in. You know anything did. Y'All spoke says they're really have now yes their gas smoker. I'd I just I just I don't really see. I don't really seeing like that. So of doing the season like Plan like that. Okay now that give you this business again. So it has that ever happened. Oh man you get into cat on the court either almo get defined defined finding you catch him in the street some well. Has It ever spilled outside of the court? Yeah Yeah there's a couple of games finished with what started like you know because there's the opportunity what I'm GonNa tell you. Okay Jasdaq how okay. Okay you WanNa you WanNa talk like here now. Let's you can't break it up. I hit right. That's what he was on. You know yes. Oh just phenomenal entrepreneur. Now essiet he's a great coach. She's a coaching out. The Vanderbilt Tar heel. I'm the potatoes other store recipes up Kobe not play. Pick up Goma netflix again. Okay I school okay. We always battling going after so it was one time in la where it was going up in use extra grabbing holding pushing after the whistle. And this was a Yudo right now. This is the League we played in. Mla and we got to push back and forth and it got to light bird. Don't do that. Don't you took like a whole. You got it got there so you know when you start saying that you. Yeah that's what you start. His Komo Brown county down by codes kover surgery to. That's when it started. I what I'm saying like chicks. You got pushback with four and that was the first time. I one of my boys I. It was it with Wretched like okay. Laugh it off tonight. It was like I really want to fight you again but who who was winning at the time because it has a lot to do with the game. Yeah who win the game time it was a it was a battle to where we were going back and forth every play and it was like pull back where you can see your elbows soda so it was one of them might. I'm trying to get to the rat heart in. Go go through him. He doing the same so it back in the time. It was like when the whistle blow. Nobody advantage so you WANNA go with. Just shoot the ball after to get a free shot right. Though he brought me family to whistle-blowing. I'm still trying to finish this up. He grabbed me on the arm. Light TO YOU A. But I was like wait. What just went back. You know really trying to do so. Then you know the reality legal breaks it up but it never. We ain't talk much after that by before games. It was kind of a quick doubt. If you know it was just like trying to kill you. You know spilled outside of that right. The competition fears man. Who would you say there ever been a moment where you felt like Dan Moore foggy me that? Do we just talked about Kobe. Yes Albuquerque. Hey I've got t MAC. I'll be me me. Matt used to go after each headlight. We cousins on what it was like. That's bragging rights but like at the light me a breast You try to dopamine tonight. Why are you standing one type things like that was he? He's got the best in a couple of hours like A. Obviously a Armand is just eat. The playoff in two thousand two thousand one rather we will go back and forth. He was going forty. Four hundred fifty points with only slight brother. You couldn't stop them and coat you amy. Yeah man she man to hell of them focused say looking back right now. What's something earlier in your career? You feel like got you know upset. A major loser temple in a game this kind of trivial to you now listening to the media when they tried to when they tried to put pit me intimate against each other. So I I W we just found out. We were cousins. Two Years Prior spoke with his his rookie year that we play Ewbal for teams explode on a younger teams team. All these years never looked cousins. The year he came out as the to be drafted to run as a rookie is when we found out that cousin. He was sitting at the family reunion table. My grandma s member. You've you've taught McGrath. He was like yes. You by from North Carolina. What my grandson when IN HOUSTON? Okay who's degreaser? Shiite Vince Carter. He's like what that s from getting. A phone call was cousin because so you know that was that was that was and then the next year I get drafted trump them so when he leaves after two years. They tried to get us against each other right at. That's the one thing I've always held onto like once. I finally had a sit down. Conversation WITH HIM LIGHT UTAH. Brian never say with by the media going to issue the exactly. Switch it up. Take some words out outlawed. Laso afternoon I always was very hesitant cautious in understood high-gain work outside of the court like with the media. You know when you say something. Some people don't care can say what they say but like talking about they were trying to pick me cousin Bang that's that's the Knicks next level. May that's experience to teach you. You know what I'm saying that like what's important. You know what I'm saying. You give your family. That's going supersede. See anything that the media in any service she got to do it. And that's the funny thing you say when you say that you know I was like at four so by the time I was like. Let me let me call do breath in talk to really understand this understanding. You know what I'm saying so if there's a beach families supposed to talk out whether we wanna hear the not right you know what I'm saying so we will we start. We talk about his by even say that so now. We go undercover. We've we do an idiot. So I'm here. They say Oh Matt said is not aim high with Dell so now see. I live with that forever like I understand. So that's why I want to be meeting chasing S. What's up that makes sense you know. Usually things change from the inside so i WanNa know if the game is changed at all for you. I mean you doing what you love for living. You've been doing it for twenty two years but from the time you get into game two right now. Light has it changed to the With more like work now. Yes yes and I say that because a in I'm trying to establish myself and I'm on top of the world in you know I'm franchise go-to Guy and obviously go through ups and downs. You don't win. You gotta deal with what you gotta do with but when you when you older trying to play this game in the game is in there is the game is fast. Get Round game as a lot faster. More teams play faster than what it was today. Now when they look at a look at your age they'll look extra production right so I'll walk into a meeting like you know. But how many games play birth. Look at look at the resume in my forties. How many games that I play out of eighty two games? I missed one game. You name the year before that I missed one game that I couldn't play if the coast We will sit you out because no you're older. We WanNa make sure like to to be able to do this. You know what I'm saying. That's what I've been doing for twenty plus years so that's the tough army light having to deal with so but other than that good man dope dope seeing you hear ran the city in Atlanta man. I love it. It's just the right time to be here for me at home thirties Yep You know what I'm saying. Hey It's been A. I have family. Who lived here Throughout the time is close to Home Sarah. I'm from Florida got fit my daughter. My oldest lives in Detroit. So this is this is It's all kind of this. Is up recovering all kinds of businesses. All kind of just entrepreneurs opportunity Influence people I love being out. I'm not a super super historian but when histories in front of me. I'm listening and you get the opportunity. Every man I got A. I'll say I got the opportunity to talk with Mr Andrew Young Yeah Ambassador. Young and it's definitely obviously you know for laser Near I've had the opportunity to talk with him and I enjoy stuff like I'm in deeply into music in As as I was in the band I used to write music for the band. I used to do all in the south. So you know with marched A right I was a drum major so I have you know A super passive for music You know I can engineer by all a studio at home because I love. It's so when my boss was doing. I wanted to do like when I'm building my house. I'm like I let me get a weight room. Let me give Jim. I need a theater in studio right here. Just very little news so it always seems like you know I'll rappers. Wanted to be athletes. Athletes wanted to be rebels at some point in time in they life is some well another. You know what I'm saying Have you ever play ball with a rapper? And you more impressed with skiers without you would be There's a few parts of a masterpiece was my teammate. What you play with nat asked He. He originally played with Charlotte and the next year. He came to us in Toronto. So my second year this is back when I saw my risk That came out. That's what TV so he literally Adam doing training camp so a player repeat. It was crazy breath. Because that's when you know Nolan was on top and doing thing so hit the following. This heated heated make team for regular season but a preseason following us everywhere just seeing the violence in the love. He got in watching his brothers. Silk Can Silken who can who so have made at Brown over just like got to I kinda tough to wear for the and there is Romeo. Romeo can lower he can hook. He played he used on the team. Usc At out there Who Else I know. O'brien Nike Ball is a couple of people. But yet man. This is some distant guys out the outside. Not Bad now man. I ain't never really beyond which Bro when I when I was growing up. I was always the youngest and a little on the block man. You know what I'm saying. I never got picked so I. I took it upon myself to go up to the basketball. Court Man Candlelight Flatten Out. The ball on the go pick somebody. I never got good basketball. I never really worked at it. I never worked at a hard enough. It was always re wrapping hustling was always like can do just what I had said in my mind that I was going to do but I have. I have a love for the sport and you know have a competitive spear if you pick me for a team and the pickup game won't find a way to contribute foul school a lot. Appoint someone getting rebounds and steals in create. You know what I'm saying. Create opportunities would assist. I I ain't GonNa just sit down but I'm not to be the best athletes on the court So tammy like Quavo Man Quavo at Cueva could do anything right now but I watched him who I was like okay. I think we could do anything. I don't change played high-school so right Cueva who dirk of your Leclerc who Gee Her Boca. Who who still video her vote. Yes yeah there's a few cats that man they you know what I mean they go. They go up for Travis. Travis gagging who But you know what I'm saying. I just enjoy watching the two cultures. Come together you know what I'm saying. Because obviously there's a huge cultural presidents A BASKETBALL IN HIP HOP. And there's a true presents a hip hop in basketball. So just seeing the to come together and it's always been ria cooled just to to observe it and it was needed a be honest. It the love of the game. You know Basketball dust people like you said you enjoy watching it and going to see games and just watch. Athletes do what they do. And then you could incorporate the our culture if you would go into the game or not only us as African American but the other cultures who come to you know who indulge in our music because well I enjoyed it so when they the best of both worlds and I think that's what's needed I really do and that's what's happening right now. Now would you so? Would you consider coaching METADATA line? Now not initially you rather lie broadcast and be more executive executive level right like GM so she liked it all out of the holidays. Okay would you start at GM or you want to come in? Is You the opportunity to go straight to our will but like I definitely something in the executive area by your president just depends like we talk? What's what's the difference in. Gm and president so like the one who's making all of the the the the trees use the one that is the day to day guy. I guess extensive He's on fall and some some some. Gm's our presidents or have dual jobs in the president. He does some overseeing the GM is the one that's on own making a phone calls every day so you know. I'd have to think hard about that. I liked I liked Input GATE PUT teams together. So maybe a sister. Gm He assists with those but yet still works players as well. Then see me doing. If if ownership doesn't happen now I will do like something like assistant. Jim Is okay. I just want to be in it just to be in it and don't know what I'm doing right that's As key point you talked about earning the earlier so I mean I see what you go with that but I'm glad you you you see it. Gm because they goes with that next question if you're the GM of the hoax if you're the GM of the house What do we need to do to bring get? Landlord is first championship. How moves do we need to make. I'd I as a player who's been around in many different areas and see many different super teams. I think you need a balanced squad of young in Jeddah youthful talent and you need veteran presence that can contribute not discontinues. They voice you need. We need a thing. If I'm I'm looking for some veteran presence to help all this US I don't I don't I don't I don't like seeing teams. That has a team of seventeen players in thirteen. Fourteen of them are twenty three young at his. Feel like you know it just is not I don't want to use. I hit us her blindly nearby. But it's the inexperience lead inexperienced. Some of these. You have if you have five four to five veteran team. Who's been through the fire? Who Don't it rattled in big games or when they GONNA four game losing streak or so something like that. Now he's got have somebody to turn to learn the game you gain right when you get to. The big game is nothing because you. You've been educated. You know what I'm saying this off season WHO's the best fit for Atlanta? That you'd think if it's NOT PASTA. Land another big. Sme has some young talent. So it's it's tough to go land a big name in what you do. It just depends on what that big big name is in who he is but free agency Good names I just yeah free agency I WANNA get knowing how NASA Speak now a bit. You just seeing. What's out there? Like you know. Now veterans or players look at teams like okay. What they let you know what? I'm saying anything that close to winning. Everybody don't WanNa come here so it just depends on what's out there but I I'm definitely saying go. Get some experience veterans who have a WHO who have some playoff spirit. Because that's what's needed because the goal of the team is to make the playoffs next year. So if you WanNa make the playoffs you need to get some gas. We've been there before to put you in that position when it's time so. I don't know who the free agency. That's why I can't really give you a young man. You read man you ready for the media you ready for broadcast and right now brother. Hey man it's been lovely man heavy you here as a I I salute you. Respect you I've I've been marveling at your career. The time you came in the league bras been impressive. What you've done. How many teams you've done it for and steal that you maintain a level and astounded of success throughout your entire career. Twenty two years man I wish you put the the the most Successful years outside of the a whatever. You whatever you said to do man. I wish you number success at it now here expeditiously. We have a tradition as tradition is the word the week now. The Word Week is usually about conversation in reference to the conversation Reference to the gas or a reference to environments that guests may have endured so this word for you that I came up with Obama's swoops. All right you know what? That's not a bad idea. I'm GonNa try that sometime. We've done it a couple of time but I'm GonNa do more unsuspectingly okay. This word the word of the week Farias Nafari. Nefarious Farias means flagrantly. Wicked or evil eye. And now what do is? I'm used in the Senate so everybody who listening can pretend like they've known were held liable. Us Nail. Here we will win. The fight broke out on the court. The opposing team blamed Vince Carter. However he continued to defend him and share that he not believe there were in in the far motives so so to work for the week for this. 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