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Pay That Running Back His Money

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Pay That Running Back His Money

"Your podcast coming up in a minute room talking with Dan Graziano about the Oranje bax where coming up in free agency and some back Prescott talk but I just wanted to remind you to checkout Scott Van Pelt podcast The v Pot Scott as good friend of mine always. Delight to be on sportscenter with him and this week. Scott and Stanford Steve Discuss what it will be like with football returning, and what will happen if a quarterback test positive for the coronavirus to download and subscribe the Pod, and of course the bill show wherever you get your podcast and now here's the show with Dan, Graziano. All right as promised. Now joining me on the Bill Barnwell show good friends of the podcast taken out the time to hop on on a Wednesday afternoon. It is our friend. Dan Glaviano Dan. How are you? Bill I'm doing quite well. How are you doing today? Hanging in there. I am hanging in there. We have some interesting stuff to talk about. When it comes to the NFL, there is a intractable problem. With the NFL but I am coming to you. Dan Hoping. You have a solution. And that issue is the problem of pain running backs a lot of. Who are going to hit the open market this off season and this prompted by the news that Alvin Cook is going to be holding out in advance of the final year of his rookie deal Darwin Cook of course a very talented player a great season last year. Under circumstances ten or fifteen years ago I think there would be very little question about paying delvin Cook, a lot of money to be the vikings running back for a long time, but we of course are an widened group of people. Now we've seen the data. We've seen history when it comes to running backs. Typically, these contracts do not workout well so Dan when IT COMES THOUSAND COOK! If. You're expanding your analyzing this problem. What do you do? It's a huge ministry. I mean you back to last year. When the chargers were talking to Melvin Gordon Right, and he was looking for David Johnson money, which is like thirteen million a year, and they were offering what we understand something in the nine ten million range, which they sell was generous. You know given with the market is running back, but he held out. It didn't work out for him. He he gets less obviously from the broncos. This off season. I mean I. Guess It depends on how far you WANNA. Push it if you're Dalvand Cook David Johnson got that contract in a year where he had one year left on his deal. Deal same situation as Cook is in now the cardinals gave him a big deal right on the eve of the start of the season. and I I don't think you see, too. Many teams operate like that. You don't see too many. Todd Gurley deals Ezekiel Elliott had to hold out of a whole training camp to get his deal and legitimately threatened not to play Christian. McCaffrey that was smooth it to him and set a new benchmark with effectively two years left on his deal, so You don't see that very often I. Think Cooks case in a couple of these other candidates at running back very very tricky I mean. Part of the reason you don't WanNa. Pay Them is because of durability issues at the position. This is a back and Alvin. CUCKOO's already missed nineteen games due to injury in his first three seasons including a couple of last year, so if he if he's going looking for Christian McCaffrey Money I. Think if I'm Rick Spielman my answer. Is Pretty Simple? Christian Christian McCaffrey has missed zero games due to injury in three years. You've Miss Nineteen. Let's have a real conversation here. But what? The number is I just think it's very very difficult for teams to figure that out. Yeah. I mean I know that It seems like the Vikings offer according to reports with somewhere around nine or ten million dollars a year. It the are Courtney Cronin reported that. Cook side. It'd be very happy with thirteen million dollars a year so not. Money, but still a lot of money for running back if he's not healthy and not on the football field like you mentioned Alvin Kokatay tourneys. Yellen has recent past. Injuries last year. Fumble concerns last year, a guy who by the way also running in Air Gary Kubiak offense which going back to when we were lads and children has been churning out one thousand fifteen hundred yard rushers like it's nothing you know, but at the same time like I watched Alvin Cook. He's good. He's a really good football. And, this is a vikings team that at the end of the day, I was talking to Dominic. Foxworth new pointed this out to me. This is an offense where maximum come out and said Hey, we want to run the football. We are run first football team and they traded Stefan things they. Invest in their offensive line with the draft picks and free agent signings. They have been aggressive about molding their team to run first football team so. I if you're the Vikings, are you more? Maybe we can be more focused on signing a running back or on the flip side. The Vikings of course has been a lot of money and other positions. They are you know pretty tap strap. They cut some guys this year to create some cap rim. Does that element of it make you say hey, we need to be cheaper running back. Let's just you know. Wants to move on okay. We'll go with Alex Madison. Maybe we'll sign somebody, or we'll draft somebody next year and we'll go from there. But what I mean. He's got a contract for this year right? So, what do you do? I mean. The chargers talked about Trading Melvin Gordon last year, but couldn't because you know they. They couldn't get what they felt was appropriate compensation. So if you'RE GONNA lose Alvin Cook a year from now in free agency and get a third or fourth round, compensatory pick as a result and right now you put them on the market, and all you're GONNA get back as a fifth or a sixth. What is that worth it, so it's probably better as the chargers did it and see if he'll. He'll come back and play for you, so the team has the leverage here to a certain extent, because recent history suggests the Dow is probably not going to find what he's looking for on the open market, so to me, this is one of those where you're wondering you five or six weeks away from started training camp, assuming they have in person training camps this year. You'RE GONNA. Want him there for that. Maybe there are some discussions to pick up closer to that time but yeah, he's a very important player for them. They're better when he's in there. He runs the ball as well as anybody. He can catch the ball out of the Backfield, vital part of their offense. They do like Alexander, Madison the second year guy from Boise. State but I. Don't think they see him as you know I. If cook were gone, they'd have to augment at. The position wouldn't just be Madison, but somebody has to give him a breather so I think he's. He's an important guy for them to have if if the if it's true that they're offering him nine or ten billion dollars, a year I think that reflects their opinion that he's important. It's just a question of where does he fit in this? In this odd hierarchy of running backs? Can he get into the top four or five running back average salary, or does he have to accept something less, and if he does right, let's say he signed or something like ten million right. Does that establish a new neighborhood does that. Is that where Alvin Kamara ends up is that we're Joe? Mixing ends up I. Mean There's a Lotta guys coming that you know want to be beyond the sort of eight million dollar devante Freeman level, but their teams aren't probably going to want to put them. At the thirteen fourteen fifteen million dollar level of we've seen David Johnson and Todd Gurley Ezekiel. Elliott and now Christian McCaffrey, yeah I think that's a really good name. You brought up and Devante Freeman a guy who not only signed a contract after a big year be couple years tickets fair to say in a cal Shanahan offense, but then. Was not the same guy and got cut, but a guy and Devante Freeman who came out, or his people have come out and said Hey. If, we don't get the money we're. We think we're worth in free agency, which is not gonNA play this year, which is sort of the question of why why you gonNA. Get it next year or the year after that or the year after that, so we're right, so I wonder when you look at Devante Freeman a guy who had a track record of success, not having on the open market when you look at. delvin cooking, you think about the possible trade market you go back to the Gordon rumors that were going around. It really wasn't very much. You know teams are only offering a fourth or fifth or sixth round pick for a guy who I think you saw himself as one of the top five or six packs and football I mean what is yeah, they about the demand, but this position is just GonNa. Be You know there's sort of a few teams or comfortable paying for running backs treating them like they're really significant or Is it going to be binding the sucker and finding the team? That's GonNa make the decision. Know that the League as a whole just doesn't seem to value these running backs, unless you have an absolute, great a superstar. Right, and even then I think sometimes you're gonNA. Have a difficult time. Getting to the number of Carolina didn't have to give Christian McCaffrey that country I mean they had him for another year that fifth year option and twenty twenty one could theoretically franchise him at twenty twenty two, but they did it because they felt like they wanted to make sure I got I don't know where they make sure. He knew that he was their guy or or you know. They just felt like spending. That kind of money I. Don't know, but they definitely. Are the exception as Arizona was with David Johnson, as the rams were when they did. Todd Gurley two years before they had to It's very rare that you see pushed to the brink, as as Ezekiel, Elliott did with the cowboys last year, and I think that's that's the. If you're going to talk about act like what caused effect, what can you do to produce it produce? Produce. The desired outcome Elliott's the example, the other kind of weird exceptions where the team acted in a way that you can't really expect every team to act and I think that that's important for people understanding. It's important for the running backs to understand like if you're in a situation where you're negotiating the Minnesota Vikings, that's not necessarily the same thing as negotiating with the Carolina Panthers. And again, delvin Cook as great a player as he's shown himself to be. Does come with some drawbacks. Question marks the injury issues, etc, he does not have as clean sheet as a Christian. McCaffrey in terms of his injury. History in terms of is consistent productivity and I think That's why you see. a little bit more difficulty when you talk about guys in that situation. So. Let's run through some of the big names in the market, 'cause this could be a enormous class of running backs in free agency. A lot of these guys don't get contract extensions. Let's start with the guy who did get paid in a way. This offseason ticket the franchise tag from Tennessee in Derrick Henry I mean if you're Tennessee, you're even more run heavy than the Vikings are sort of he most. The maybe outside of Baltimore the most run intensive. In football and Derrick Henry is the core of that offense so. I mean. What are you thinking when it comes to the Derrick Henry negotiations? I'm thinking Derrick Henry. It's ranch again next year, and then they see where things stand wants. That's all over I. Mean that's the other thing that holding this situation back. The runningback franchise number is not too difficult for for teams to handle I mean if there carries making what ten point three this year. So, it's going to cost. Point three six to franchise them again next year. You're going if you tell me I got Derrick Henry for the next two years at twenty, two and a half million. I'll take that and then and I don't have to commit anything else beyond that, so I think that's probably what happens Henry is an interesting situation. You'd be surprised to see him. Hold out because you know ten point. Three is a lot more than like. Like the one point three Dalvin. KOOKS GONNA. Make this year. I, think that's really important for people understand. He's a year further along cooked still on rookie contract I think the Vikings would admit that one point three million is far less than Dalvin Cook should be making this year given his projected role and his importance to the offense, but it's a lot different. If you're the franchise, I'm sure they're really wants a long-term. But Lot easier to go back and pay play for ten point three than it is for one point three. I think that's probably pretty obvious. Why so I mean unless something happens unless again. He decides to do something it doesn't have to do where the player decides to agree to a contract. That's a little team friendly. I wouldn't be surprised to see Henry in the same position xtra which the recent historical compare of Courses Levy on bell with the steelers played on one franchise tag, but then sat out the whole season when they tagged them again and ends up a free agent. Do you WanNa? Follow that path Derrick. Henry I WANNA follow that path for Derrick Henry. it. It wouldn't surprise me to see Henry. And the titans push it to that to that level where he has to make that decision. What about Alvin, Kamara star saints back a team. That has you know in wind now mode. It's used him extensively, but eighteen and again also has cap issues. Right. That's not you know, and he's another guy who's on fourth year of his rookie deal. Not a first round picks no fifth year option just like Alvin Cook and is vastly underpaid, so that to me is the is the really tough one because this is a really kinda unique player. What he can do, and how the saints using it, Alvin Kamara was on the market. I would think the most interested team would be the saints who who who know how to use them and know what his value is. Nobody can do and how to maximize him. his numbers. Some levels are very copy, but he's also a guy. You know you can catch the ball he can. Run with them, can you ask a full season of him as your as your bill cal running back or not necessarily sure about that so I i. think he's a really tricky one. I don't know what that number is being. I think it could be a situation where saints or organization that appreciates him maybe more than another one might and give him A. A deal I don't say it's McCaffrey level, but maybe a little bit beyond where the Vikings are with. Delvin Cook as you mentioned. The saints have cafe shoes to work around. Obviously, that doesn't necessarily mean can't get it done I. Mean it? They obviously breathing the catfish use because they know how to structure signing bonuses and contracts to to alleviate term Catholic. So they would do that and I think if they got to a number they like with. that's not something you can rule out a year ago. They were in a situation with Michael Thomas Receiver who is going into the final year, his deal, another non first round, pick your option, and they found a way to get to the not with him a little bit easier with wide receivers, because the markets more defining obviously Thomas at the very very top of it, but Kamara I a unique case because of the. The way he's used and the different things things. He's asked to do in a different thing that he's not actually do in the saints. Office yeah, and the other thing that comes to mind about Alvin Kamara. Is You look at this saints team right now and we'll. He got drew brees quarterback. You're feeling pretty good about things. You've incredibly deep roster on the offensive line. You're going to go now a year from now. The contract. The Saints Gave Tastes in Hell for twenty twenty one. The seems to hint that he's going to be in a meaningful role in that offense. How? Totally different looking offense if you're. Bruce retired a year from now, and it is tasting at quarterback, and they could be running the ball a lot more frequently and in that case would Alvin Kamara be a lot more valuable. Maybe he is not valuable now, but even more valuable a a run first offense as opposed to. The offense the sensor running which breeze I think that's not out of the question either. Right and I think the saints have looked. At their future and imagined what would be like if it had to construct an offense around tastes hill as the starting quarterback and I? Think you're right that it was. It would look a lot different. but I. don't think they're. I don't know if they're committed to that right I mean. Winston is there as drew brees back up this year. He shows something as a back this year. and breeze does move on the. Do they think about staying with the more traditional offense and putting its worst? We're GONNA quarterback in there so I. Think The saints are giving themselves options in terms of Kamara I think. I mean they honestly value in the obviously? No, he's important. They obviously think he's a great player. I think he's probably the kind of guy that could fit into whatever office you running so I would think the future of the quarterback position in New Orleans. Doesn't necessarily factor into their decision on camera from scheme standpoint, it might in terms of money stamp white right? How much is quarterback on a cost us going forward, so That might factor in, but again as as happened with Thomas last year. I wouldn't surprise them. Come to some kind of raining. Yeah, it's a nice. That's the most logical thing for the saints. In Kamara situation and I think is a lot trickier when it comes to how this team is valuing was player and how they're gonNA see that teen going forward. What about Aaron Jones with the packers, a situation where? They draft running back in the second round this year. They've been hesitant to commit to him as their fulltime back when. You know they've given Jamal Williams a good chunk of the load. What are the packers do here? drafted. Aj! Right hundred. Or on the draft. I think. All those things you say, plus that draft pick. announced to Jones that. Hey, if you WANNA, talk deal we'll talk is GONNA. Be Our deal, right? It's not going to be held if you want to break the bank. We're already looking at a future without its youths. Who I don't know if these in their plans long-term I kinda think maybe not. But yeah, I think again. It's like anything it depends on. The number of P comes toward them, and he does deal. That's favorable to them. Then maybe things change, but if he's looking to try and. If. He's GonNa do doubt and to. If he's looking to try and and and Max out his contract to get you know near talk of the money I, I would I would be very surprised to see the packers who still have to do it. David Buck, Yari extension, and and other things I would be surprised to see them. Go down that road I I think that. I think that the pick of Dylan is a big signal to Howard Jones, but hey, we love you, but you know we're not necessarily even a break the bank. Thou. I don't know if you notice Dan, but the packers fans were upset that Aaron Rodgers did not get help around him with his weapons. This off season I heard some whispers. Yes. How is that GonNa look if the packers then say Aaron Jones were good. We're we're going to move on. We're happy without you. He's you know outside of the Monterey Adams Aaron. Jones is the second best weapon in the packers often yeah. It does seem like they're going to have to replace Jones whether it's. Aj Dylan doing that or whether it's. adding. Somebody else just seems like if you're going to have to replace them anyway. Do you consider giving money to Aaron Jones as opposed to a wide receiver or running back from outside the offense? That floors the packers head coach and he worked for Kyle Shanahan for what I'm years. Though. We just saw Kyle Shanahan reach the Super Bowl with this sort of interchangeable collection of running backs to the point where he mustered, was the hot guy and I you know they got that monster. Championship game against the packers and then when they're starting running back in the Super Bowl. I think if you're matt fleur and the packers. You're looking at it as like. This is not an look, the forty niners. Spending running back in recent years, but not very talkative market spending and I think that the philosophy is. We need several of these guys. A couple of times last year, packers poked his retirement. They are Jones Jamal Williams the third guy, so I think the packers are always going to want to be have that at a stable of depth at the position. and not to me says you wouldn't want to necessarily pay one of been through the roof because The niners a couple years ago with Jerick McKinnon. Played for them. Two years, but they were also in a position at that point where they had. Odds of Catherine and had him spend money. In order to get to the salary packers, obviously most teams s majority is not in had seen position. That's very fair absolutely. What about James Connor a guy who had off your last year? The first of the entire steelers offense was you know pretty much just destroyed by injuries a year ago. So that was a mess, but I mean this is eight and organization that did offer Levian bells significant money, and then let him leave, and you know I don't know how they feel I. Don't think they Miss Levy on bill all that much when it comes to that offense, so do you think they handle? The connor situation when it comes to possibly giving connor an extension differently assuming he has let's say the year he had in two, thousand, eighteen, twenty twenty. Right but a big sumptuous right because. Guys that has a hard time staying on the field, and obviously we know all about his past health situation, and what a miracle it is, you know the the NFL, the productive at all, but it may be that if you're the steelers, you're looking. James Connor based on the last couple of years, and saying really good, really productive player, but we can't necessarily us in the way. We used letdown belt because he held up, so it may that. That they need to constructor running game looks a little different than it did of your own. If that's the case and you're looking ahead to James, Connors rolling it then. You're not going to be offering him. Money offered living bill. So I think you know conners guy that if he were to have a monster year, and all sixteen games and put by the bull type numbers didn't he makes he has a real strong case, but. If you're looking at it right now and you steelers. Yourself. We can't bank on that if there's going to be an extension to be done. I don't think it's going to be a monster one at this point. Guy Who sort of flies below the radar, a little bit because he plays for the bengals. Over the last few years, and who you know, now that the Bengals have joe borough the. Team on the rise. You'd figure may get a lot more attention this year. what about Joe Mix it I mean. It's the guy who you see the bengals. Who of course you know don't WanNA spend a lot of money in free agency typically, but not certain resigned last year was the exception of course, but typically we spend money, free agency, but a team. That does you know when when their players are developed Jacksonville? Players do all they typically do get resigned. Do you think Joe Mixing gets a big deal? Me Done through Nixon. There's a couple of factors. One is that Calhoun. The coach when Nixon's drafted so you're gonNA. Know exactly how he feels about him. I think obviously the year on what he used them. In the second half of the season, I think we saw that he values and highly thinks he can handle a lot. I'm game patriots late in the season bill belichick talking about the and all the Patriots, which is I, talked to on about this best back in the league, so if the Bengals it sounds like the Patriots would but. I think he's I think the commissioner remember you know not the drudge stuff up. I mean mixing was. Was a first round talent fell into the second. Round me right? The despicable circumstances under which is entering league. Having. I know everybody any problems with the not always. That doesn't way what he did in college, but You, know He. He has his made a case for the Bengals to keep extend him. I don't I. Don't think there's anything holding that, but other than that. I mean he doesn't have all been cook? Injury History, he missed some games as A. As a rookie, but he hasn't hasn't been out for extended periods of time so I think he's a Sean. Really play through injury. He's been over eleven hundred yards. The last two years I think he can catch the ball on backfield. To a greater extent than we've seen and I think Zach. Taylor's to Kinda coach. Coming from you know Sean today and Kyle Shannon treat tree. That knows how important that is so I deal to be done. That's what I was talking about with coke. If someone were to establish news zone, it isn't like top four or five running back salary fourteen fifteen sixteen million dollar range. If it, all these guys were settled. In like around ten they don't sudden. There would be the certain new kind of running back middle class where. You know if you're upper upper middle class. Right so if you're regular player, but you're not the exception. You're not the to Christian McCaffrey the the one that absolutely break the bank for. Because you've destroyed that level value that your team still keep you the right now as board last year, and it sounds like with Alvin this year ads zone of like nine ten million is still with these past. Feel their work because they looked to see what McCaffrey. Has Gotten. Just as good as that Guy even if it's not necessarily true, that is how people like the preceding sales, yeah I, mean Joe Mixing a guys played the high, a horrific offensive line for the past couple of years, one of the worst lines and all of football, each of the last two seasons, and the bengals did give Joe Bernardi immodest. You'll sort of a eker, a little short smaller than Austin actor, but you know a a mid tier deal, but obviously Joe Mixon I think can point to his production and say hey I deserve more so. I think there is a you know there is a middle tier. They're like you said. That doesn't make sense and another guy who might come to mind if that Middle Tier. On very run heavy team, but what about Chris Carson of the seahawks? Guy, that this past year. Answered questions about his health, but I think you know he had had that issue of not being able to stay healthy He has had a fumble issue, and that is a big is a big problem. Obviously, but I mean look the last couple you know I'm looking fourteen games and twenty. And twenty nine hundred and so I. Guess it's not really fair. Call Him the health question at this point, not to the extent. Some of the other guys we were talking about, but. Yeah Seattle Fan quarterback more than anybody in the leaves paying their quarterback. I mean there are. They have Tyler Lockett on a really good deal, but they have expenditures elsewhere. Do they end up bringing back to deputy and cloudy right like that's still up in here. In a possibility, they may not be in a position to spend. They added what Carlos Hyde Rights. They're not their depth chart. Running back is getting. To the point where with Carson, they could Fix or they figure it out, and then of course when shot penny, a guy really hasn't stayed. Healthy was a first round. Pick a couple years ago. They obviously think very highly of him, but haven't been able to rely on, so I think Carson is part of the situation Seattle again said with Connor. I think a monster year this year, and made a case for a top running back contract, and maybe look to Seattle is the place to maybe get there maybe Australian gets it somewhere else, but at this point committee Chris Carson. If you're Seattle probably needs to be done on some kind of deal that that you can with as team some. Bargain, but maybe a little bit more favorable than player. Maybe. He gets fined a million dollars every time he fumbles. Man, right there you get back to that ain't right, yeah, the. Later. With grenade tumbled seven times last year. Lady can't. Me That, that's the point against you if you're Goshi. Hey Melvin Gordon fumbled twice on consecutive plays on the goal line and cost his team game stay. Slick out that mid tier eight million dollar contract to more guys here. I want to get you before we finish up. Someone who I think it's fair to say is not getting a contract from his current team, but if he did have a big season. Do. You think there would be interest in Leonard Fournette. Think so Leonard for that had a really good year last year. Numbers Wise. He caught seventy. Six passes last year like that was. There was a factor in a way that he had never been before so. I. Forget is. East had his issues obviously with Jaguars management. There's no question about that. Tells us. But right. Productivity Wise. Over thousand yards, two of his first three years, obviously, the the second moment a mess. He's still why each twenty five, so it's not as if he's been down the ladder side of things I think. Yes. I think if he has the year statistically that he had last year I think there would be. There would be interested him on the market. Ever is and again we get to the home. Of Len Levy on building building was looking for he did well. You know with the jets, but it wasn't easy for him. It wasn't necessarily what people have said. Necessarily what Pittsburgh was even offering the year before so. Free agent running back isn't the best thing to be either. It's not just contract you run back with free agent. Running back isn't the most profitable way to go either so yeah. I think he might be on the top of the board, depending on how many of these other guys out there, but you know words that meet cash into I. Don't think it means you talk the McCaffrey number. Yeah I mean you know Levy on bell comes to mind as a guy who might be on the free agent market next year, his jet skis or up after this season. You know I can't speak for Adam. Gates doesn't seem like they are in love with assume is a great relationship. Maybe it's just much better than I. Think and we'll certainly see after this season, but wouldn't be shocking. If the jets moved on from on Bell and another veteran who might be on the market or actually will be on the market. We know this offseason unless he signs an extension is Todd Gurley himself who Sunday massive deal with the rams, obviously after a couple of years they change their mind, Don grows with the Falcons now playing behind very good offensive line WANNA first round picks. A great offense with Matt. Ryan a quarterback. What do you think of Todd, Gurley has? A big season. Do you think there are teams that would overlook that knee and sort of go back treating them like the guy he was with the rams rethink that he's just permanently damaged goods at this point because teams were afraid of what's going on with that name. I. Don't think there's ever going to be a team that overlooks the knee issue with girly. I, he kind of came in league with it, there was a thought all along that it might be something that that. Ends up affecting his career, possibly shortening it. So I mean girl got his big pay day and made a bunch of money from the rams, and you know. Maybe lasts for maybe turns out to be Frank Gordon, it's still playing way beyond what anybody thought he would, but in terms of another big running back, contract me. Like when running backs go to the Goshi, addictive right now looking for a big contract. The team say we don't want to do. Todd. Gurley deal of Todd Gurley is the guy in this scenario like what do you? How do you even? Chain you're you're the example of why we want to do it so I think it's going to be tough for him to cash in at the top right. Look, I, I think. girlies in a great spot I would not be shocked at all. He had a monster here and then was much better player from the Falcons, than people are giving them credit for being but. I think he could get through the whole year healthy and there would still be teams justifiably, so the knee is kind of a time bomb and and aren't necessarily willing to get married as a result of. And I mean of course. We don't know what the salary cap is going to look like next year. The point. That I could get squeezed, and you figure quarterbacks still going to get paid. Wide receivers are probably still going to get paid the first thing that would kind of come off shelf for you say okay well. You know we're not going to spend as much here's maintenance. Typical season might be running match so. I, it could be a really difficult off season for. Teams that have urged looking for running back to be more teams or more players available who are talented running backs than teams who are inclined Steiner winning back so really fascinating. Doesn't seem to be the wave it. Now Dan I'm going to finish up with this. I am contractually obligated agony ESPN employees every time I do a podcast every time I make an appearance on a television show. As is the case for you. We have to talk about that Prescott so Dan. Let me finish our conversation with us. If, you had to guess right now. Based on what you know based on what you've heard based on what you think based on history. What percent chance there that on July sixteenth twenty twenty, that Prescott has a large check in his bank account from the Dallas cowboys as part of a new long term deal. You ask me for percentage chance percentage chance. Seventy six seventy six I liked that I'm Kinda in the same ballpark with you I mean what what leads you to think that it might not be one hundred percent. Do you think it's more tax side of things or the cowboy side of things? I think it's for. The he's taken it this far right like he played for two million dollars last year, and nothing guaranteed beyond that now he's thirty. You know. I think it's a lot easier to go into this. And this is Kirk. Cousins did this a couple years ago and honestly by the time he was on the franchise tag. Your your long term. Risk is lowered. I mean this is fully guaranteed money. The DAK Prescott going to get this year no matter. Matter what he's already shown, he's willing to take a much bigger risk for one-fifteenth, the amount of money and and I think if he's willing to push this to the very very end and get the the you know the maximum he can. It's entirely possible that there is no deal and the cowboys Keep him and he plays on the Franchise Tag, but seventy six percent is is a high number, and so that tells that tells you. I'm more convinced it'll will happen then that it won't I think at the end of the day, the cowboys. Will want to make it happen and I don't know if I WANNA say they'll cave. I'm not sure they'll cave but I think they showed with Elliot last year that if they're you know they need to go a little bit extra to get the deal done that. They're willing to do it and obviously I. think that's what is banking on right now. but Yeah I think I think they get it done I i. would be surprised if it didn't get done this maybe six. You can be a little bit low, but that's what I. That's what I'm going with. I said I'm sticking with. Let me ask you now. You of course were covering the giants recovering the NFC's the whole kirk cousins franchise tag. FIASCO WAS GONNA just. Strictly on the night. I think that was either while with the on the giants are after they moved me to whatever role I'm in now so I remember talking to Kirk and training before his last season. In Washington and really talking a lot and we, we talked since about how it all down and all that kind of stuff, but Yeah, it's th th. There is a key difference in the situations, and it's important one for people to remember. That Washington did not ever offer cousins a deal that they feared he would accept. Right. The cowboys have offered that Prescott ill that. To my understanding, Dak Prescott, whose sides don't be was remotely insulting that they think they think it says to them. Yes, we definitely want you. This is different commitment and they're not to the point where they have to wonder whether he's one of their long-term. They just aren't that his number. Yeah, whereas cousins in Washington. The front office was never all the way sold on him. As long term franchise guy and the offers reflected that, and he knew it, and so that that he wanted the franchise thinking about the possibility of not being there anymore, so that's a big difference. The cowboys have offered that Prescott from what we understand something in the range of the thirty, four, thirty, four and a half, million, Dutch second third highest paid quarterback in the league, though it's a question of structure and contracts, and all that kind of stuff that has to be worked out, but it's not exactly an apple apples comparison because I mean the cowboys have not. I didn't know if that was going to be questioned, but yeah. No, no, no, that's very good question. I very good answer I to my knowledge. The cowboys have not called that Prescott by the wrong first name on multiple occasions, which is probably a sign of how value hitting relative Washington, organization But yeah I mean I just it's really fascinating because I think if you'd ask me this question. When Kirk cousins was going through that first franchise tag if asked me, what are the chances? Kirk cousins gets franchise tag choice, actually some free agency, and Jewish not and I would've said I really slip. These these things always work out right. You always up at the quarterback getting the deal. We're getting some sort of deal from the team. At very rarely occasionally, he'll get treated Jay Cutler thing may be comes to mind. That was a different era I guess, but you know it just it always seems like it works out one way or another never lose them for nothing and. Washington do kirk cousins for nothing so I? Don't think that's going to happen with the cowboys, but I have to admit I I don't think that was going to happen with Washington and cousins and it did. It would be. You know I, it's not a path that others have followed since and not the easiest way to go, but it's there for that Prescott. If he wants to do it right, I mean next year's franchise tag would be You know top of my head on the math. What like thirty seven so? You're talking about. He's got if he does nothing right, and and he stays healthy. You Got Sixty eight sixty nine million dollars guaranteed money come in the next two years, but to me like it's easy I well our conversation on a long-term, they'll start at seventy, million guaranteed or else. Why would I even look at because I'm getting that? Anyway so he's a good. into was a year ago and he any you know and he got through that and I think the leverage has shifted in favor little bit as a result. Absolutely well, then it's always a pleasure to have you on the show. Where can people checkout mar a few great coverage on all things NFL? On TV on Friday so get up and NFL live and assorted sports centers are around, and we're talking about putting stuff on ESPN DOT com in terms of Writing were writing about all the issues that are going on around the world and the NFL everything so. I'm around. Dan GRAZZIANO ESPN on twitter. If I if I Ryder, say something you know liking what yell at me. 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"God morning time to get up with coli and the raptors, they roll the dice in the biggest way and came up huge winners. We'll tell you what it means and who might be next to try the same. It was tough ending for Janas was this run just beginning or was the Greek freak exposed in the conference final? And then he's there star player in the NFL on the verge of being the next Levy on ready to sit out a season to get a new deal cancer for those and other questions as we get out with you starting right now, wishing you piece on this Memorial Day and delighted to have you with us on this holiday greeny, and Laura are here DJ is bad shoot threes. Tom Civetta was here to defend the indefensible coaching. We're gonna we're, we're sort of having a whole lot. I fights here lately. I and we'll see how that goes, but let's start by getting up and going, we'll get up and go running around some of the events of the weekend. In sports starting base. Fall where the seven game win streak came to an end. Sunday in KC Royal. Walk it on whitmire appeal that RBI single bottom attain. Yankees had rallied from seven one down to tie it the bombers, still a two game lead over the raise in the AL. It was the first walk off the beat of the Yankee season. And so the now at six fifty four winning percentage second in the American League only two the twins who approved way, major league best thirty six and sixteen with their seven nothing win over the White Sox yesterday twins. Have now won six straight and eleven of the last twelve listen to this good their opponents on hundred and five to forty four in that span. Indy five hundred Vive LA call pole-sitter Simon Panzer now is your winter. He's the first fringe board winner to win the five hundred since gusto Chevrolet nineteen twenty these loves my pronunciation, I drive that win the race from the pole position since cast on Yemen's in two thousand nine. Hockey where the Stanley Cup finals tonight in Boston. Bruins hosting the Cinderella, Saint Louis blues blues had the worst record hockey in January able to sneak into the playoffs and now have a chance to avenge nineteen seventy Stanley Cup final defeat to the Bruins as they begin that best of seven series tonight, and all of that brings us back to the NBA where the finals are now set after the raptors finish off the boxing game. Six on Saturday night rallying from fifteen down behind Kawai letter to finish with twenty seven points, seventeen boards, seven assists. It'll be the first trip to the NBA finals into Ronco franchise history and Leonard. Obviously, the overwhelming reason why he became the third player in the last twenty five years, who lead his team in scoring and reach the NBA finals and his first season with a team, you may recognize the other two LeBron did at his first year in Miami. And Jason Kidd, did it with the nets in two thousand worth pointing out neither of those two LeBron nor. Kid that year one of winning the championship. We will see if co is able to do that here is we get our first crack at this, and I wanna start with this, and Tibbs will start with you as one who has been involved in putting together teams and organizations in the NBA to me, the star of all of this is messiah Jiri, who was the general manager of the raptors and to just call him the executive of the year in my opinion sell short, what he accomplished bear in mind that a little less than a year ago. He fired the coach of the year and trade it away the face of the franchise and eleven months later. He looks like genius. Yeah, I think it was a major move Masai. It's calculated risk. I think he saw the team. He had winner about, as far as it could go his is also coupled with LeBron leaving the east. So there was an opportunity there. I think he roll the dice of. There's a there's a big gamble in this and it's obviously paying off right now but they gave up a lot. They gave up the mar- derozen. They gave up hurdle Riddick young player in verse round pick. In, but he's in a great -sition now he's got to pass that he can go down of quite stage. Obviously. That's the best path for them if he goes, they can move in a different direction and also started rebuilt, and then they would make other roster adjustments there, an terrific position. I think he felt they were at the end of the rope with the team that he had. They could be starting to rebuild in its soon as a month, which is crazy to think about. But do you think who is going to stay in Toronto? I don't think so. When loser draw, I think he leaves. I just think it's a better opportunity for him where he perceives to be going, and that's out west to, to the Los Angeles, Clippers or the Los Angeles Lakers. And I just think Toronto's a great city and he did some great things. They're you know, hopefully they get the job done and when NBA finals. But I think he's gone either way. Let's analyze that for 'cause when we say it's a better situation. Perceives it to be. Yeah. I understand there's no place like home, and he's a southern. California guy, and he's just strikes you as the kind of person for whom that familiarity is important. Right. That's just the kind of personality, he seems to have having said that it's easier to win. The east got a team in the NBA finals. And they have a lot of good young pieces. So his best chance to win is probably to remain in Toronto. No depends on who goes with it. You know, we've talked about for weeks on end how he's going to team up with Kevin Durant, or these gonna go LeBron James in LA. So what better way to go home to team up with two of the best players in the hold on one second because I need to come back to you on this and for those who don't know, DJ coach till you with the Brown. You know, him very well and the conventional wisdom for the longest time now has been Kawais going to the clippers clippers just in the last week or so, suddenly, we start hearing about, you know, the Tampere and, and all this. Do you believe there is a real opportunity here for why to wind up with the Lakers and LeBron? I really I think, I think it does. And, you know, the conspiracy theorists out that LeBron flute affiliate Philadelphia doing the Toronto Philly series meet with, and you know what? It's a great match. Why he's one of the best two way players in the league he could score the basketball Nebraska's, if Acilitator the basketball, and it just works well together, that's fascinating to me. And I wanna go back to the previous tips, as DJ just touched on here. Let's make sure we explain this to everybody. They might win the championship. The raptors two weeks from now could be pulling up the trophy, they might be the champions and then collides go back to the clippers explain their moves. They could win the title and be a full rebuild in the span of about three weeks. Yeah. I think messiah created this knowing that this would be a possibility in so yes to great options. I think he's developed his young players in this does happen. They could go down a different path. And you probably see him move some of the older players on his roster in quite stays. I think when you look at why I think they should win it if they do win it, and that could happen. It may be harder for him to leave. I think he won't make his decision until he has all the information that he needs, and then obviously, he'll make the best decision for himself and his family. But he's, he's got great options out of deejays working for LeBron. This. Let me ask you this question to. Ronal LA. Well, the one thing I would say about why, and he's talked about it often he talks about the importance of winning the west is a different animal. So I think that, that will factor into it as well. But in terms of you're making a decision on whether. DJ -ing. Maybe that way. But I think it'll be a basketball decision in. I think he'll go with the best chance that he feels. He has to continue to win championships. Go ahead. I was to say that was a nice way of not like fully answering DJ. We have. You would say Doc Rivers McLaughlin. So it is breaking news. That's interesting. Doc Rivers and the clippers with Katie. I'm just making this up now because that's one of the, the Kawai goes to the clippers right now by himself. And by himself as an unreasonable way to put it the clippers just took the warriors, six games of the amount of these, as it was with Kevin Durant. But if it's going there without another superstar going there or go into the Lakers with LeBron James. I'm not sure which is necessarily the better situation if he's teaming up with Kevin Durant with the clippers forget it Katie bar, the door they're the favorites to win the championship starting immediately. Right. But otherwise, you're better off playing with LeBron. And with no disrespect intended to your profession, no matter who the coaches LeBron greedy. Kokomo on now waking everyone. Rolling the balls are out there at the start of the. But what I'm saying, but what I'm sitting is this league is about stars about great player in that Western Conference you've seen has difficult that is. And if I'm co Leonard if I'm focused on winning if I'm going to the west, I better be doing it with another player of that, caliber. I'm not going to the clippers and deciding I'm gonna try and win this thing. Because Doc Rivers is my coach. Well, the clippers situation is fluid because they have to max spot. Right. And they could get another guy you know, everybody wants to play in southern California. Tips knows that. But if he if he goes in and right now, LeBron James, and they have one more slot at think they can feel. I'm not sure they do I have to ask the cap guys. They do they have to, and you could get a Kimball Walker. You can convince a carrier Ving to come to LA then you have your neck super team wherever quite goes in. He stays in Toronto. They're going to win big. If you look at his winning. Senate as starter in this league. He's one seventy three percent of his games. So wherever he goes, he's going to win can win a championship. I think in the west you need more than they probably need three to knock off Golden State you need at least three guys, of course. Okay, let's actually talk about the other side of that series is the bucks. Lose this one game six got away from them out to take a fifteen point lead in the third quarter. The raptors took advantage of cold, but shooting going to twenty six to three run taking control the game in the series as abouts were sent home after having the best record in the NBA in the regular season. So kind of feels like you gotta stick with Janas here. It's a camera on life friend, Mike Greenberg here because he's very of set about everything that he saw I was just having a flashback to five men looking completely panicked, and, and discombobulated throwing the ball frantically around the perimeter and then hosting a terrible three contested. With one second left on. Shop laud which seems to be the offensive game plan of the Milwaukee Bucks the last sixteen minutes of that game. And what they got a fifteen point lead with something like four minutes left in the third quarter. And from that moment forward. I don't know that I've ever seen a team look less able to to close out a big win on the road than they did. They looked panicked and totally out of control. To me. This is team with a guy who some people say is the best player in the sport. And guy who some people say it's going to be the coach of the year tips. What happened? What the, the big thing is making shots thought you have to give run a lot of credit for their defense. They loaded up on them. Big double team. And I think game five was the swing game. So they couldn't hit threes in that game. Toronto, a lot of credit for the way they help and they recovered and challenge those shots at three point line, the pressure that moment of going to the finals is probably different for Milwaukee than it was for Toronto. Toronto head qui- that Danny green to have been a lot of big games. They haven't filed who's been in a lot of big games. Milwaukee hasn't been there yet there's a lot of pressure in those moments, I think that will come when you look at the progression of Janas it's a twenty four year old to do the things that he's done and to watch his growth into to see who he is my give Milwaukee a lot of credit. David make shots. When you look at game five five was a very very close game. That's came five. I'm talking on the road a fifteen point lead in the third quarter of a game that you absolutely have in your control and it wasn't I didn't make shots. They didn't get one good. Look at the basket. They didn't look ahead entity a how they want to try do they wanna play. I understand that they just run pace in space, which is. Basketball phrase for we don't run an offense. But do they have a single is literally one, they can run that? Oh, five guys are going to particular place on the floor of the ball is going gonna move. And the objective is to get a good shot at. Well, I think that's part will be part of their growth to understand, like, I think after a series, you go back through the playoffs. You look at the things you did, well, things you didn't do well, and then you'll add onto what you, you think you need to work on. So I think some of those questions will be answered but to think about this team last year. There were seven seed. They lost in seven games. The Boston actually played very well in that series. They made a major step this year when your best players twenty four years old, and he's doing Jaanus impact on winning is been huge. And again, you have to give quite a lot of credit when they moved qui- onto Jaanus that created problems, but then also building walls in double teaming him getting the ball out of his hands that made it difficult for them. So I think to answer your question. Maybe they do have to add more offense to, to what they're doing. But also the thing. That made him. So successful all season long was the way they play. And so maybe they have to look at the playoffs and say okay, if we add this to what we're doing that'll make it better. But Janas his growth in his impact on winning in special to your point that you made earlier about the bucks. Not having that experience in the playoffs. Eight late game management coaching standpoint felt like if maybe he'd just are just called a time out to calm them down a little bit. Some of those moments it would have been better. Well, you just heard from one of the best coaches in the profession. Right. And he's not going to be critical of my Boone hose. I'm just a young assistant coach. Yeah. So I'm going to take. I'm going to take what he should have said and really put it into perspective in game five he panicked. Okay. He changed. His whole star in lineup. You bring in brogden you take out miratec from the starting lineup. And then now Chris Middleton is in. A difficult situation. Because now he only gets nine shot why? Because my Malcolm Brogdon is a guy who Schuster basketball. So I think he messed up in that respect perspective. But in game six he was up fifteen point two times in the second half and he took on us out of the game. I'm not taking out of the game to allow up thirty codes this is my game. Seven okay. I have to get this game back to Milwaukee in by any means necessary, if I have to play Janas forty eight minutes, I'm going to do it when I think, of that, well, a couple of things brogden started a good chunk of the season part of getting hurt. So obviously was going back to him because of the success that they had had with him. So you have to factor that into it the point about keeping you on the floor. That's something that probably they have to look at particularly when you're on the road, your margin errors lot smaller when, when he was off the floor. It made a big difference. So, but those are, you know, might moon holders greatcoat and so and the season they had was terrific. I think sometimes we look at whoever loses a series. And we say, oh, this guy was out coach. No. It's a maker Mitch leap. I mean you, you take a look at we talk about how great things are for Toronto. Philadelphia easily could have been in, in the conference finals and they could easily be in the finals. Yeah. So and so your point I'm just saying that it's a lot harder than it looks, you know, and then you also have limit for as to how many timeout, you can't call off and you're saving your time out Cousteau for mean. DJ and I are on the same side on this whole guys. Goes on. This is but he really did. I agree. He coached that game as though losing didn't mean their season was over. I don't care how fu- timeout you have you can't save them for the end of the game. I understand that it wound up being a three point game but I got completely away from them, they wound up playing the entire fourth quarter from behind when they had a fifteen and it's a fair point. But let me say this. So with Kawai big game experience. Yeah. And successful big game experience ship. It means it means a lot. And they're steps that you have to go through to understand that. All right. I've got to do some other stuff here. We're gonna come back to this world continue to gang up on tapes throughout the morning here. We're looking forward to that. But I got a couple of football notes, I wanna get in for you here on this Memorial Day as well. And they sort of start with that guy that's Lebanon bell. We all know he sat out all of last year in order winter free agency, healthy and get the kind of contract, he believed he deserved. And that got our Dan Glaviano thinking about other NFL players who might mimic bell. In the next few years forced to teams hand by sitting out in his article he talked about your Debbie on cloudy. Melvin gordon. Michael, Thomas among others, and so forth, this, let's bring in our general manager Mike Tannenbaum or delighted to see this morning, Mike among the current players looking at the situations mentioned in that article or just around the league, who do you think as a player, most likely to pull a Levy on, if you will. And possibly sit out some time agree of all the players you mentioned in that article, I would say, Michael Thomas wide receiver from the New Orleans Saints. Because at the end of the year, he's going to be an ugly strict creation, as well as drew Brees. And obviously they can't let drew Brees grow presumably Greece plays next year. So if they have to franchise, drew Brees, Michael Thomas is going to be an unrestricted free agent, not tag. I could see being well north of twenty million dollars a year and obviously oils can't let him go if he's still there. So I think all the players that could do Leon bell did a year ago to me would be Michael Thomas. You know, it's interesting. This conversation came up here on our set off. The the other day. And Jalen rose was telling me that he's been talking for a while on Jalen and Jacoby about the possibility that Zeke Elliot would be the next guy in that situation. And there are similarities with Zeke Elliot and Levy on Bill. Maybe the franchise has some hesitation about giving them a long term contract based on some off the field things, and that type of thing is equal Elliott, a play who could be in that circumstance agree. That's a really good point. Because when you look at what he's done for their offense in particular Dak Prescott deck Prescott has been a lot more productive as a play action passer the offense really runs through Elliott. He sits up there passing game. So I agree with that in terms of his value to that team won loss record production and offense all knows better when zeke's playing. So I think he has a lot of leverage and the cowboy offense really starts with them. Yeah. And if you're if you don't want to commit to him long-term, he's got two more years left under their control, and then they can franchise him. And at that point, that's when running back start running into that wool traditionally, and he has. A lot of mileage on him. So I see that being a very similar circumstance. What we saw with Levy on in Pittsburgh agree. That's a great point. And what they do is they have three more years to find his replacement. It's a little bit like with lady on bell James Connor, was the guy they drafted they developed, and then when Bill moved on they feel much better about James Caan, or so likewise, they do control Elliott for number of years. And then they could franchise him. So if I'm Dow's advise me time to try get his replacement, and let's see if maybe he turns a corner in terms of being more reliable off the field because we're talking about so much money here but he's such a valuable player to that offense. Well done, Michael check back with you later this morning. Well, we're just getting started on get up with you here on this Memorial Day. Still the com is the secret to Toronto success. Simply time management. We'll explain. Now tell you why it is actually terrible news for basketball fans and before there was Brady before there was bread. It was Bart. We will remember one of football icon, acc- quarterbacks as we continue on ESPN. Brought to you by carmax America's number one used car retailer and buy new coppertone, sport clear, cool protected. The game six on Saturday night with a little light candy and this was one of these kind of that's going to live forever. How about the selfishness by Larry? Larry was unsung hero in this series Toronto weapons. And then the portion the face honest, this, the exclamation point that sends the Toronto Raptors to the NBA finals for the first time in franchise history Jabber coming away, on this Memorial Day in five minutes. How exactly is it that the raptors got to this point in, why is it bad news for everyone else, we will remember and football legend, and we'll look ahead to the warriors after starting the NBA finals all that more, we roll on give it up on ESPN? We welcome you back to get up in the NBA finals are set after Leonard led the rappers to a game six win over the bucks. Saturday night, twenty seven points, seventeen boards and six points. Arana win to close out that series and six after losing the first two games. And let's talk a little bit about Kawai. Let's talk about time management and load management. He's averaging nearly thirty nine minutes per game in these playoffs and his regular season approach may very well benefactor and helping him do it. He sat out twenty two games missed his one way to put it. He missed. He sat out twenty two games fifteen of which we're attributed to load management earlier this year, Commissioner Adam silver address the idea of other players taking the kuwa- approach to the regular season. I don't think other players are going to want wanna copy because remember he missed almost miss higher last season. So I've you that very differently. That's not rest load management. That's recovery. I mean he was. Coming off, you know very serious, again, almost full season injuries. So that's something separate. But in terms of two game season. I think there's nothing magical about that number. We've been playing eighty two games since roughly the mid sixties. I think the bigger issue, putting aside the absolute link of the season is, is there a better way? Format wise to create a season. I think the issue is that in this day and age, you know, you've got to keep people interested. You got to keep people engaged, and it may be that if we're going to play a season that begins in mid October and goes roughly told me June. There's a better way of composing, the season as opposed to just shorten. So there are a lot of things that are on the table with that. But, but you will know anyone who has been watching me. You're listening to be for years knows this is one of my biggest concerns with basketball, and here's what I have to acknowledge here, I think the fact that played as little as he did this year as few games as did total this year. They managed his load as well as they did was a factor in this series. Look at his ability to guard Jaanus on one side of the floor and still lead his team on the offense inside of the floor. That is hard to do if you were warned down by long regular season. I see that being a concern. And so to me, this is terrible news. Because if it works I can't blame any team for doing it with their superstar, and that to me is very bad for the fans. So this to me is a challenge that Adam silver, and company will have to figure out how they're going to address because I do believe that load management is going to become more and more prevalent. And I get that this was a unique circumstance Koike coming off a series injury. But still, this, I think, is something. And Tom, I think it's something that. They need to really be concerned about. And I think Adam is addressing it. And he's also mentioned the possibility of going to a seventy five game schedule. I think we've already seen him take steps in terms of reducing the back to backs. And I think that's a big factor. I think when you look at the back of a guy like Kawai he sat out a lot of those games and I think it was smart on his behalf because he's coming back off of missing nearly an entire season. I think each player, you have to look at individually, but as far as of every team is concerned in terms of load management that's part of player care. So every team now employs sport, scientists athletic trainers, physical, therapists, and you can look at your schedule when it comes out, you have an idea when you're going to be hitting heavy parts of the schedule, and then you're going to look at that and say, okay, we're not gonna take a chance on risking injury. With the guy who may be Nick up or a guy who has an injury history and you probably going to sit those guys out, and I would guess all that was at stake for Toronto on both sides. I side in the Toronto Raptors side, that quite probably made the call most of the time as to when he was going to play not play like to Greenies point DJ. This isn't can't be good for the future of the NBA. No, it's not because stars drive the league and we need the stars out there as much as possible. And from a coaching perspective tips you can agree with this is that if those guys out there are not out there. You're possibility for winning goes way down in affect so many other things. So I think with Adam, and what he did with taking down the back of the bags four games in five nights doing away with some of those is going to help going forward. And I just hope that the stars of this league. Do not use this as a ploy going forward. Node manage, I agree. Look, I give out himself all the credit in the world. He is he has been sensational Commissioner, and in part because he gets out and. Front of these kinds of issues. And he's been talking about this. He was talking about it as early as I was talking about or anybody else. He recognizes this is a concern, but the reality of it is, this is the one sport where the players name goes above the marquee, right. This is like, if you're going to Broadway to see some big movie star was coming into play. Like you're going to see that person. If you don't see them, it doesn't matter how good the play is. You're gonna go home. Disappointed. And if you're the NBA you go see a basketball game that features make a team here. Mean anytime you want the Milwaukee Bucks and Janta compo- doesn't play. It could be triple overtime and end in one point, you're still going to go home disappointed. And that is what they have to figure out. I think you're hitting on something big there because it's not only the players your TV partners to lot. That's driving the league and then your fans your season ticket holders are paying to see these guys play. If someone doesn't play that takes away from the product and takes away from the league. So I think it's a big concern from from all sides. Do had must see TV the NBA finals starting Thursday night at nine eastern, six Pacific. That's on ABC the warriors taken onto Ronco game one coverage tips with MBA canton. That's at eight thirty. It can both be seen streaming live on ESPN and on TV. You can find it anywhere. Yesterday. The sports world was saddened to learn of the passing of a legend Packers quarterback Bart star died at the age of eighty five he was a player who's place in the game may be lost among some of today's generation of fans. But believe me when I tell you the guy your favorite player wanted to be when he grew up was Bart star star was a seventeenth round pick in nineteen fifty six. That is the latest hall of fame quarterback has ever been drafted. He won five NFL titles including into the first two Super Bowls with the Packers. It was the MVP and both of those games he finished his career with a nine one record in the postseason, which is the best record in playoff history. Is number. Fifteen is number fifteen is one of six numbers to be retired by the Packers you see some of the numbers, there on your screen and a little later this morning. I will do a personal remembrance of Bart Starr, and what his place in the game means to me and should mean to football fans everywhere. But there's someone who knows that way better than I ever could, and that is my longtime. Friend, Bill curry, and every time I ever traduced Bill, I always pointed out that he played for Don Shula invinci- Lombardi, and as a center, he snapped the ball to Johnny United's and Bart star. And I know Bill how close you were to Bart star. And so all I can offer on this morning or my condolences and my gratitude for coming on and sharing your remembrances on what I know is a difficult day. I'd like to just give you the floor. There's a generation of fans watching us right now. Who don't really know that much about Bart star what he was like as a player, what it was like as a man. What would you like them to know? There so much. And he was such a towering figure in my life, regardless of whether he ever threw a football or did anything on a gridiron because he was a dominant human being before he was an athlete. The day I reported to the Green Bay Packers. I was two weeks late because of the college all star game in those days, I was terrified I was the last round draft choice. They had twenty choices in those days, and that was a twentieth selection, and I'm talking to dinner not knowing if I'm going to be asked to sing or BF, I'm going to be ridiculed or people are going to throw things at me. And I'm walking into a room of men that had won two world championships when we're being called the greatest team in the history of, of the sport. And not knowing what to expect. And there was a presence that came along side me walking to dinner and attorney and gassed, it was bar star. And I said, Mr. Starr, he said, no bar bar. Don't do all that Mr. stuff. He invited me to go to church with cherry, his wife and him the next day and to have lunch at their home. And then he escorted me at eight dinner with me, and I didn't even know that was the beginning, and it never changed in the minute years that we remain first teammates, and friends. How Bill there's the personal side of the new so well. And then there's the great quarterback. And I just ran through a bunch of numbers. But numbers never do Justice. The truly great ones when you think of Bart Starr was football player as a quarterback what, what should young fans who know of Tom Brady and people like that. What should they know about how good a player Bart Starr was? But if you're a sports freaks like always was and. You should know that he was the quarterback for five world championships. But he did it in seven years that will never be repeated almost an impossible task and the system, the culture of Vince Lombardi and Forrest Gregg and Jimmy Taylor and Willie Davis and herb Adderley, those have been given justifiably a lot of credit for those victories. But what you don't see unless you study the films as the throws and catches that were made were unbelievable. The accuracy share percentage of completions at the times when it mattered most own, the big dries, Bart Starr, dominated football, you know, way that nobody else really ever will against four an era of seven years. Their playoff record was nine in one they lost the first they never lost another one correctly finish nine in one. A lot of postseason records that still stand to this day, and I'm glad that we're able to remember him together on this day and Bill. Let us through this again, under happier circumstances, and share some more stories, thank you so much to you and your family. And thank you for doing this, what I know is a very tough day for you. Thank you, same to you. The great Bill curry with us here on. We'll take a break. We'll come back with more from the NBA Kawhi, Leonard has proven that he is worthy investment. The raptors made as he also proving he's the best player in the game that debate. At the beach in the car just working around your house. We invite you to get up when it fits your schedule. Download the podcast on the ESPN app and on apple podcasts. Consecutive days. It. To the NBA finals historic, Golden State. Five say the distort NATO with that is kind of crazy. Think about switching play for this goal. And every year we know four wins defined your season. So gotta stay locked. The countdown began it's Thursday night for game one and Caesar's installed the warriors three to one favorite to win the championship. That's nothing new Golden State has been favored in twenty consecutive playoff series. That is the longest streak in the last thirty years, and I will like to address this next question to my good friend, Mr. Jones. See that alongside Miki here. I thought suggested yesterday and one of the many places I was reading about this, that this current addition of the Toronto Raptors is the best team that the warriors has faced have faced since they got Kevin Durant. What is your reaction because I enjoy being with you greedy and, and Laura I'm not gonna walk off this day. But in my mind, I'm thinking it because there's no way that this Toronto team is better than the team that we had in two thousand fifteen sixteen with LeBron James carry urban Kevin love. Right. And we had some, some guys coming off the bench style. Was really good too. So, but how about the in the period of time since they've had K D, which really only encompasses the last two finals that was one year of Kyrie. It was it was when I was still there the you in five that game three in Cleveland was a very close game team at a real chance to win that would've turned that entire series around, and you believe this Toronto team is better than that Cleveland team. No, I don't think so. And. When you had the best player in the world, and I know everybody says, I'm, I'm pro LeBrun about everything. But when you had about, but I'm the saying when you have the best player in the world and you have arguably the best one on one player in the game and cavalier and Kevin love whose twenty and teen every single night. I don't see another three guys. Let alone a team that's going to put up the type of numbers that we did in the finals against Golden State Houston, no tents. Like if you think about teams that, that the warriors have faced that have been really good. Even let team last year. I think we're supposed to be wanted to. That wasn't happening. No, no. As much as I hate to do this. I might have to agreement. DJ. But I would say Toronto is a loaded team. The west is a different animal Golden State's at different animal. Kawais special, like his impact on winning is similar to. I think when you look at Draymond and what he's done since he's gone into that, starting lineup with with Golden State. They've won seventy eight percent of their games. So his impact on winning his great. We can't overlook Steph in clay. What Steph is doing right now is just incredible. And clays defense is all but let's not get how good they are. Let's talk about the team that they're playing LeBron James had not left Cleveland, if he stays in Cleveland are the are the raptors in the finals. No. You can answer that question yourself. No, we don't even have to ask. This. Straight straight straight to the final out agree with four and Miami, four in Cleveland who was going to stop him. And that's why I think. My sil- jury made the gamble. Okay. You know what the bronze go? We a chance, get in here. I think that was a big part of his decision making. I think he recognized everyone was hearing the whispers that LeBron was leaving. And then he saw it as an opportunity. This is one last chance where we could go for it. Great calculated risk on his part, it's paying off. And we'll see where it ends up sports. We always referred it. What is being a game of inches? I think we have it. Right. Can you put the shot up there that heads to beat Philly and game seven of that series because you just think about you wanna talk about the ultimate example of something being a game of inches? How different is history of that doesn't go win. He makes this miracle shot. You've seen it a million times seven stops playing defense dozen and this ball, somehow goes if that doesn't that game's going overtime who knows what happened. Maybe already living in his house in Los Angeles. With the clippers the Lakers. And maybe we're sitting here having a conversation about is Joel Embiid the next great player. But Nash, what makes sports so grit? Don't look at it as at lessons or cheapens. It look at it as this is what makes it so great history is written by the winners. And in this case, the raptors got the right bounce of the ball. And here they are and the conversation today is the best player in the world. And is this the best team the warriors of ever faced? Greenie a great point because if Philly wins that series, you're right, choirs probably gone, and it's the same old Toronto Raptors yet, but you also have to give quiet lot of credit for the way he stepped up. He gave them a confidence that they had not had before and his belief in, in his ability to win. And he said this he said that, you know, the moments not too big for him because he's been there and he's done, it putting LeBron a different category. Because I know that you do is long. I know that you believe LeBron is the best player. In the world. Okay. Yeah. I watched them this morning, and Instagram shooting three point contest with a fourteen year old kid. He's doing other things. So until he comes back on the stage Kuweit right now the best player in the world. No, I haven't been my top three manifest. I have third LeBron. The Brandon Koi. No lebron. D kuwa-. Okay. Where was cou why before this series for you? With your top five he was on the cusp. He was number six. Okay yourself, greater after this series that moved him all the way three and I'll give you my top five right now. The bronze James, Kevin Durant Kawai, Leonard Steph curry James hard, put together a full screen and put out Instagram we'll get half tomorrow. I have about this guy's yesterday, Vanderbilt's Philip Clarke. We're going to go to college baseball here because this was fun a walk off single defeat. Ole miss crazy game been up at one point nine two one three thing all the way back. They are a favorite too. Win the college World Series. And this moment was special in Hoover, punching their ticket, but they were in great shape. But host, of course, in the NCA tournament will be making their fourteenth street appeared. So let's welcome in ruins my buddy ESPN analyst for college baseball. And let's start with vandy JJ day, one of the top prospects expected to go in the end all be draft. In fact, Marlins CEO Derek jeeter special adviser where hip Asada were in Hoover to watch Paul day play last week. And if you talk to his head coach Tim Corp in his wife Maggie they love today. What do you like about day? And how likely do you think the Marlins will pick him in next month's draft will great to see coach Rutledge? I would say that a day is that, you know, he's an athlete with strength. He had the perfect progression as a hitter. He started as a pure hit guy and grew into this elite power, you know, get a lead the country and home runs. And so here's the other thing, the Marlins are looking for foundational players. The day is a great person by all counts and there's pedigree with Vinny players. They've succeeded in major. League baseball. So there's nothing not to like about day and he really has blossomed into a star player in the star hitter. Yeah, you look at the big leagues vandy everywhere. David rice, Dante Swanson, the list goes on and on. Let's talk about the NCAA baseball tournament. Sixty fourteen field is announced today at noon eastern on ESPN, you will see their who's your favorite to win an Omaha will UCLA's got to be the favourite. They didn't lose a weekend series. They didn't lose a mid week game. You know, they have that, vintage west coast run prevention where they just suffocate you with pitching and defense. The difference this year is their unusually offensive. You know, they've got a first round pick in the freshman class, Matt McClain, that showed up and elite junior class, they can run they could hit for our. So, you know, UCLA is by far the most complete team. We have. But again, vandy is very scary. That's the best offense. We have in college baseball ruins plus plus stuff from you. Whereas college baseball there. The NCAA baseball tournament field revealed at noon eastern on ESPN you, thanks so much ruins. We continue on here and today we have our annual tripleheader Memorial Day. It's for you on ESPN the ESPN app. It starts with Marlins nationals at one PM eastern than Indians. Red Sox and finally dodgers hosting the Mets. It should as Wien Memorial Day on ESPN ESPN app, you can watch that anywhere coming up after being named the MVP of the last two NBA finals could Kevin Durant return actually derail the warriors quest for three repeat. We'll get to that next on get up.

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Hour 1: SEC Season In Peril

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"Morning it is time to get up with monday night. Football surprisingly good game in the end can can. What does it mean for. The patriots playoff chances. Plus what is tampa. Tom's coach saying and more importantly wisey saying it. You need to hear this and you will and then trouble in the sec is college. Football's premier conference on the break after the latest reports. We've got the insight you need coming up as we get up with you starting right now. On tuesday for my seaport studios green and grass are here and the regular tuesday crew is ready to go. Marcus spears is ready to go jeff. Saturday is ready to go. Greg mcelroy in the middle plan offense as we get this thing going with our game of the night. Monday night football last night. Surprisingly entertaining show from metlife stadium patriots against a winless jets. Patsy losing record this late in the season for the first time in eighteen years joe flacco plank in place of the injured sam darnold and playing. Well flacco rashad param in behind the defense. Owns a fifty yard touchdown. If the jets first passing touchdown. Since october eleventh which is terrible they take a ten seven lead. Later in the second jets. Thirteen ten i. Ten flacco jamison crowder. What does play need to see it again. We'll get the catch. Look at the tap jets. A twenty two ten lead at the half at their highest scoring half of the season fourth. Quarter pants down. Ten second intent cam newton avoiding the sack finding jakobi meyers. Oh what a night myers had twelve catches hundred sixty nine yards later in the drive third and goal newton going to keep it himself and he's not going to get there so the patriots settled for a steel twenty seven twenty six and a half minutes. Go on the ensuing. Drive joe flacco to say pumping pumping other word for this past. This is just an arm punt and it's picked off by jc jackson patriots. Takeover clock threw three touchdowns and that pick and suing patriot drive first and ten newton looking for demure bird and watch bird make the flight always going all the way back across the field and he's going to die for the pile on at the end here he's out of bounds inside the five so it's first and goal for the patriots cam would run around i. He'd run around second. And then the third time would be the charm. Third-down newton takes in and times the ball game at twenty seven just under two minutes to play the jets very quick three and out to the patriots fact. Pick it up with twenty. Two seconds to go on third down with one time outlet. Cam takes it up the middle for five yards. They don't use the time out. So here we go. You gotta get up and you got a spike it and that they do so they spiked the ball with eight seconds left and they have one time out remaining. Second attendance newton. They need yards and they need a time out check. Check jimmy myers talk down three seconds left. They use their last time out. Nick foles gonna kick it. Adam gates does not. Is it because trevor lawrence is really good and the field goal is up and it's good. Nick folk wins it for the patriots as time expires. Thirty to twenty seven the celebration in new england and just maybe in the jets front office. Let's talk after patriots way. What's been the difference over the last couple of weeks versus maybe the few weeks that preceded these games. Getting tired of sucking. Simple get is quite simple. And let's make this good call is brought to you by subway where he was particularly not sticky last night a cam against the lifts he completed seventy five percent of his passes when faced with more passing yards last night than in his previous three games combined. So let's bring the crew into the conversation here and jeff saturday. I will start with you as you watched cam. Newton plan quarterback night for the patriots. What were you thinking. I saw team is trying to hide the quarterback in the play. I mean they didn't. They didn't try to challenge the jets deep for the majority of the game. They played very conservative throughout the entire game. And it just shows you write. That cam cost them the last couple of weeks in the way he's played they weren't going to let it happen again. It was like in the meetings throughout the whole week between belichick and mcdaniels is. Hey we're going to stop going to stop the bleeding from turnovers from bad plays. We're gonna play this thing and make it as ugly a game as possible And see if we can find a way to win in the fourth quarter and that's ultimately what they did. But i'll tell you that other part probably the most disappointing for me is if you watch the game of football right now. Think about all the young quarterbacks that we have out there right the to the world of the world like all all the energy mahal even mahomes to a degree. Just the energy and excitement that quarterbacks are kinda bringing to their team. I expected that out of cam newton and you just don't see it. I mean it's like it's just hard work right is laborious. It's like there's just no joy in. And i know he had it early on the season. But you just see on the sideline man like such relieved that they're beating a winless jets team. I mean that's the part that's probably the most disappointing. Because when they brought cam in. I thought that part of his game right whether you love him or hate him on the field. It's irrelevant. I'm talking about just the attitude and the kind of the energy that he brings it a locker room. I just don't see it and that's been disappointing. Maybe because it's because it's the game plan for whatever reason that was probably the most disappointing part again against i guess an owen nine jets team. I would have thought. I've seen a little bit more. So there's a lot there to consider greg. Let's start with the game plan. What did you see from new england's last night it was an indicator like wha jeff said of how the pats feel about cam newton. That was an elementary game plan. It was probably the most elementary game plan. I've seen from a veteran quarterback in a really long time there were reads in there. That would be easy for a high school player. A lot of curls. Lotta hitches lot of throws behind the line of scrimmage but is that camps harare no like we have to give credit where credit is due and for whatever reason we have been extremely critical of cam newton throughout the course of the season and understandably so the last three games have been putrid. They've been bad. But i would also say that. He played pretty well last night and especially like we talked about the subway. Good i mean he did a great job against pressure. That's exactly who greg williams williams miss a couple of throws from those two throws that he missed out on the field if he makes those throws it takes a solid night to a spectacular nights. I thought for the most part candidate exactly what was asked of him. He didn't turn the football over. He didn't take unnecessary risk. He ran the ball and got down and didn't absorb unnecessary contact. There was a lot to. You can actually build on within the plan. The problem is if you run a plan like that against some of the best defenses in the nfl probably not going to have very much success all right so agwu setting the table for you. What did you think what i thought. It was like a hallmark movie. Like you saw joe flacco ball and and then cam comes along the game. The game hallmark movies if you never watched them especially the christmas ones this girl dates dude the whole movie and she finally ends up dating to do from back home and getting married to him. That's what happened. The joe flacco last night. The second thing is this man like this is a bad football team. And i get what greg is saying about cam. His performance and i agree one hundred percent. But i'm with jeff as well like new england's a bad football team for them to have the out win against the new york jets who is or equally as bad and i say equally because that dame who is really a flacco interception away from the jets potentially winning that game so how far the mighty is what. I was thinking about the new england patriots last night. And then to greg's point like you going to feel it's just not their bill. Belichick talked about it. A i think a couple of weeks ago like we sold out to get. Get three super bowls or make appearances. You damn sure did and i noticed it more last night. Any game all season. New england is bad and people need. I know you happy because y'all kept loss and you still in the sweepstakes trouble down just as bad as the new york man. They were very nervous moments last night. I mean the jets thankfully were able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory but caused concern. We will get to the jets side of this a little bit later in the first pick and everything else but dan graziano talk for a minute about the patriots for in this regard. I'm old enough to remember. When jarrett stidham was the future of that franchise what what has happened here. Stood didn't come as quickly as they hoped in the season they did sign cam. Newton they really believe cam. Newton is their best chance to win games this year. Which is still what they are trying to do. But what this is telling you is the patriots are going to be in the quarterback market this off season whether it's cam newton coming back as a free agent whether it's somebody in in the draft the patriots don't necessarily have their twenty twenty one answer on the roster at this point jeff saturday's point about energy. They lost four games in a row coming into last night. Who who in the nfl has high energy when they're on that kind of losing extreme. We will talk much more about this game and both sides of it and the implications of it as we continue. But let's move around the league a little bit. One of the most stunning results of the season sunday night the saints smashed the bucks. Thirty eight to three in tampa. Mike evans had a game. High sixty four receiving yards but that did not stop head. Coach bruce arians after the game. From saying this. Mike evans said it's combined in the last four games within being the best receiver on this team. Why isn't byron. Making a more concerted effort of getting mike involved in the passing game Mike is mike was open. A bunch of that ball game. He just didn't he didn't get targeted. That's all he was open. Mic was open. So so i go. I will ask you is directly. Can what is he talking about. And why is he saying that publicly. Listen i was furious and the reason i was. Fear is because these coaches they have didn't need the mention any player's name after that game. That's right we don't absolve you know damn will. I don't absolve players when they play terrible. When tom brady played terrible along with tampa's offensive land along with a lot of people on defense is way. Fifty three bruce areas and byron left with had a plan that was horrible to play against the saint. And be and even when you see how the game is transpiring and the saints of scorn and the state and todd bowles will let me put him in there with the terrible game plan as well when you see the game. Play out the way it was playing out. The office of lab was getting more than i don't like to hear that but they were getting by cam. Jordan markets have possessive. They were getting rush with four. And then you look on the other side. Todd bowles continuing to be aggressive and drew. Brees is getting the ball out of his hands. In one point two seconds place man rush for guys do what they do be a the need to say another player's name in the press conference he doesn't need to say another player's name all week. Give them a better plan. See if they can execute it and then you can run run into if they don't execute their game plan the right way but that was a terrible game plan by the tampa. bay buccaneers. Go ahead jeff. Be as high man. This doesn't make any sense right if you look at tom. Brady brady's his entire career move off the spot. He's a different god. In the wins this year greenie they had four and a half pressures. they win the game. Thirteen day pressures. They lose the game. They had nineteen the other night. Why are we looking at. If mike evans is the number to read. You ain't never getting their broke because all the hindrance in three consecutive plays. Are you freaking kidding me. Do i mean the saint lawrence taylor broke. This is an offensive line that played like trash got were getting and there was no adjustment of. Let's get the ball out of the ball check downs and let players go make place. We still want to drop back. Five steps let go okay. Well that's so un-union ba like don't put this thing on one guy in the slide. This point they all played like trash. We win as a team loses a team. Don't be dividing by saying evans is open. I mean seriously pro. Who don't even get. It was ridiculous comment. Greg let me answer. Quick question here from a quarterback's perspective. Let's say he is talking about. Brady gives it certainly sounds like it is at least partially at brady. Would it be legitimate criticism. Let's put aside whether it's something should say publicly or not. Would it be legitimate criticism of brady. If you just look at the game film from sunday night will the fact that you can't play quarterback by yourself and is good as tom brady is. He's the goat best ever. He cannot elevate everyone around them. Let's consider the source here. I mean bruce arians trying to support his staff. He's got a deflect and he's got the heaven forbid he takes blame and byron left. Which takes blame for atrocious planet. Complete greek agree completely with swaggie. And what jeff said because it was awful brady. He shares some of the burden because this is a guy that over the course of his career like jeff said he doesn't play well when he's put under duress he didn't make good decisions. I thought he predetermined a few too many times. And the also just looked lethargic. It just didn't look like there was any energy. There wasn't any level of emotion that we need to see from him to kinda crank that offense into gear. It was too little too late. It was a rally bad performance and. I think that tom brady. And this year the ability to bounce back. He was criticized early. I expect the play really well and their next game. So i'm not that concerned big picture but i really don't like the rhetoric. The rhetoric is to come down on his players when frankly person hanes to criticize its himself with the pathetic plant he put forth. Yeah we're gonna talk much more about this one other name that has not been mentioned in this conversation yet that may be a factor and if not might become one well antonio brown right. I mean they bring in this wide. Receiver that the quarterback wants. The coach is on record saying he didn't want back in the off season. And you bring them into a situation. That's obviously still not all the way settled. The buccaneers are loaded with have seen them play like one of the best teams in the league. But it's still a situation where the pieces are coming together and it isn't all the way clean all the time. It's possible that adding antonio brown to this mix where the wide receivers already aren't getting the targets and the catch is that they want to get could cause more problems than it solves going. Okay there obviously as you can tell. We have a lot to say about that game and we will as we continue. Let me move on to a few other things grazziano louisiana. Let's run the hurry. A lot of news out there. It starts with christian mccaffrey. What's the story. finally back from. Injury plays a great game hurts his shoulder on the final play of the game that rule the panthers coach said yesterday. He's day today but there is concerned about the possibility that he will have to miss this week's upcoming game and possibly some more so Difficult injury from mccaffrey gets more difficult in dallas. They they finally played a good game on offense with garrett gilbert quarterback but stephen jones executive vice president said president said he expects to go back to andy dalton as the starter once he's able remember dalton had a concussion then he was placed on the covid list. The cowboys are on by this week. So it's possible. That dalton could be clear to go in week eleven when they return. Then what are we got. Nfl owners meeting. Oh yeah nfl owners me. that's right. i'm sorry. They have a discussion taking talk. And tell you they're gonna talk rules. Proposals one would incentivize teams to develop minority coaches and executives that are hired by other teams as head coaches. Gm you'd get additional compensatory picks at the end of the third round if you did it. They're also going to talk about the possibility of sixteen team playoff field. If further games have to be cancelled as a result of covert very quickly on that. I mean how how is that. We're talking about significant cancellations than we were get an extra playoff team that i didn't get enough attention. I thought yesterday translations of significant games playoff impact can also if they have to add an extra week of regular season games. they don't want the teams to get the by to have too much time off so nobody would get a by so it is possible. We will have eight teams in each conference in the playoffs this year. Meanwhile we've got problems in the sec of the southeastern conference in college. Football dealing with multiple covid outbreaks already impacting. Next saturday's game the match up between number one alabama and lsu is in jeopardy after multiple positive tests within the tigers program does around says multiple players will be unavailable. saturday number. Twenty four auburn and mississippi state game has been rescheduled for december twelfth. Because of a number of positive cases within the bulldogs program and number five texas a and m. has paused activities as a result of two positive tests the schools says over a dozen players will be out fourteen days because of contract tracing protocol. So we've got ourselves a variety of messy situations there. Heather paul finebaum the conversation. Heather we start with. You spoke to the sec. Commissioner greg sankey yesterday what did he tell you. He told me greenie that they are continuing to move forward. They can't just throw their hands up in the air and not continue to try but he said as disruptions they have to continue to react and one way that they will do that is to continue to discuss the possibility of using december nineteenth. Which is the date of the sec conference championship game as a potential makeup. Date for other cancellations now. They haven't decided that yet. The directors meet today. They will talk about it in a regularly scheduled weekly meeting. If at some point they all agree to do that. And the presidents and chancellors agreed to do that that could be used as a makeup date to provide some more flexibility but also they would have to determine obviously their division winners ahead of time. Paul put this in perspective for us. What does it mean it means. It's this league which has done so well is really struggling. Like the whole country is however greenie as you move forward in terms of the bigger picture. Heather said the sec championship in the college football playoff. I'm not sure it's going to be that significant unless you start seeing massive amounts of game if the season ended today alabama would meet florida for the sec title. If florida one that game assuming they went out and have games to play than they would very likely be a playoff team as alabama would so at the moment i it's not complete complete but it was grim couple of hours yesterday. The sec had their. You've been saying over and over again on this show. When i ask you how many games a team have to play you. Keep saying tell me how many teams amny games anybody is going to wind up playing. That feels like the theme of the moment. Doesn't it it is. That's actually correct. I mean you've seen wisconsin struggle. They're fortunate to be able to play at michigan this week in the pac twelve. Get in this thing with seven games. Yes because who knows how many games everyone else is going to play. But the selection committee will have to consider these unbalanced schedules regardless of how they shape up bald super quickly. Does this mean better or worse. Chance of the sec. Getting teams in. I think it's all dependent on florida greenie. a florida can run the table and beat alabama. I think there goes the sec. With two now the problem is what happens. If the notre dame lose to cleanse and then you have a real conundrum with ohio state sitting there going. I'm a we're in ohio state. It seems to me gets one of the spots almost no matter what happens if they went out guys. Thank you stayed close by because there continues to develop practically by the minute. Meanwhile as we continue who the biggest threat to take down the chiefs in the afc. Dan orlovsky open semis with his. Pick one of our guys. Think today you'll find out he's been anointed. If this year's number one pick forever. Is there any chance. Trevor lawrence will be overtaken by just fields. We will ask todd mcshay as he joins us as we continue in all the sites of augusta national ex justin thomas on the range. It's masters week and we're getting you ready here get up on. Espn right saturday of the pancake blocks. How many pancakes. Mark andrews on this play. I'm giving them too little head fake right there. Greeny look at him driving. I'll tell you in goal line. You gotta score with your man. How from eleven from the eleven your take an oath of it's like you had bill crew. Andrew take him dropping back puts him on a peg absolute thing of beauty. You gotta give them pancakes for that. Sadam down to the end zone. I love it. Coming up here which. Afc t really is the biggest threat to patrick and the chiefs. We'll talk about that and much more as we continue and grazziano was ready for sneaky. Hembo cam. Newton has rushed for eight touchdowns in the red zone this year. Who was the only player with more. The answer is next. We are back with sneaking hembo head to head with dan glaviano and he would go cam. Newton is rushed for eight touchdowns in the red zone this year. Who was the only player graziano with more. I don't think he's being that sneaky. I'm gonna keep it simple. I'm gonna go with the guy who's leading the league in rushing touchdowns. He plays for the vikings. I'm wearing purple. I'm going to say it's dalvin cook right now. In his palatial estate wherever it is that he lives. Hembo is cursing because that is correct. Alvin cook has nine cam. Newton and todd gurley have eight each derrick henry who would have been my guess has seven so dan graziano score one for grass today. Head to head with hembo. Meanwhile speaking of cam if you didn't see it last night was actually a pretty entertaining game. We catch you. Patriots jets on monday night. Going to pick it up in the fourth quarter pats had been down by ten layton afford the jets. Lead is seven joe flacco inexplicably to throws this up in the air. It's a ridiculous decision. Unless you're better off losing than winning patriots takeover ensuing drive third and goal for the pats dares can with one of his red zone touchdowns they tied the game at twenty seven. Eight seconds left patriots. One last shot it's newton jakobi. Meyers they get the time out. Called after a twenty yard gain with three seconds left nick folk onto attempt a fifty one yard field goal. Adam gates doesn't aisin because trevor lawrence looks really good kick is up and the kick is good patriots win on that field goal thirty to twenty seven year final and there was much rejoicing. So that's out last night wrapped up week nine on the nfl schedule. It is overreaction. Tuesday with mr grassy analysts dot with this all the first round rookie quarterback's will be great. Is that an overreaction. No way man. Let's joy this look at two against kyle. Murray the other day looking outstanding in his second start all the different things he can do. Joe burrow and cincinnati is leading the league in passing attempts. Toughing it out in spite of being whacked around all the time. Justin herbert throws a deep. Ball is the culmination of the concept of the forward pass. When when pop warner who invented past he was imagining justin. Herbert throwing the default. This is gonna be fun. These three guys next one dalvin cook is the best running back in the nfl. Is that an ovarian out right now. It's not his absolutely out of his mind right now. Two hundred and six rushing yards to on a monster performance from week. Eight his dominating. He hasn't inviting. You know there are only a couple of games out of a playoff spot. After that lousy stars they had and the main reason they're still hanging around is dalvin. Cook one more. The bills have a better chance to make the super bowl than seattle does. Is that an overreaction. It's not. I wrote this right after i watched. The bills knocked the seahawks around in in buffalo the other day look they are. The more complete team does seattle is not playing any defense all. They just threw all over him all day. Buffalo one game last week doing nothing but running all they wanna get this week doing nothing but passing the ball pass rush looked okay against seattle. I think they're pretty. Well set up i did. It's an interesting way to look at it and yesterday. Dan orlovsky was here with us and he had this to say about the bills specifically give listen. I think they're the team. That's most equipped to beat the city chiefs on the three reasons. Why one to beat the chiefs. You have to be explosive on offense. You have to have a quarterback that can go above xs and os. You better go above exit because sometimes the defense is going to make a good play in the third thing. It would be this really good coaching staff. I think she goes to the best and most equipped team to beat the cheese. That was an interesting one. So let's go around the horn here with my entire crew. The question is which team in. The afc is the biggest threat to beat the kansas city chiefs. The defending champs. Who who do you like none of them. Nobody gee wouldn't having this company enemy. Patrick must plan with people. No-one no-one don't let the carolina score full. You don't let don't let the law stood for. This team is head and shoulders above everybody else in this league. Now trust me. When i tell you that i like him. He's got sheep's against the field. It is a it is a commonly. Plays in place vegas jeff. Who's the biggest threat to the chiefs in the afc. Going stephen steelers dan. If you think about how you stop the chiefs it's not by outscoring. They've lost. I think nine game on game scoring thirty. You can't get the track me with these guys. You got to slow down defensively. I think the patriots almost beat them with them with boyer by slowing down their offense right. So the steelers defense. They're good at all three levels. They they can make play again. Get turnovers that's the way you're gonna have to beat this chiefs team. Does it matter about how good your offense is your deepest deepest gut. The step i'm going. Steelers gives has best chance. I love. Swaggers swaggers cop out picking somebody somebody. I will allow if indeed i have that power however i like sweating so i'll allow greg who's the biggest threat in your mind to kansas city in the afc. Also jeff and i'll say swaggers hot. Because i think the pittsburgh steelers the makings of a team. That could cause some disruption yell. There's a couple things one. They got a defense and get out and get after the past so they can get you down and they can imply a lot of pressure and we know that patrick mahomes unbelievable believable and regarding plays on his own when things break down. That's great but i'm telling you man. They can get after the quarterback and their stars are starting to find most offensively. I love this empty formation. Stuff that allows ben rothlisberger to get the ball out of his hands quickly accurately to very explosive wide receivers. They're starting to find themselves on that side of the ball. Don't let the game against the cowboys. Fully of the steelers are for real wise markets. You finally have an answer. All right guys listen. I understand both of these guys being his berg. If i have a team i would be probably alone. The same land with dan. But here's the here's the story from up. Pittsburgh is they not they they the ravens. Turn the ball four times. That was a one possession game and then the cowboys last week. We just act like that did not happen like that. Gets the cheek catholic slow road trip more. You expected wild okay. All right. we'll talk about. Let's get graziano in here. It's a lot of airtime for a guy. Don't have a pick. I mean spirited. Easier picking undefeated team right. Who beat the chiefs this year. One team is the raiders. Now let that was not a fluky wind right. They executed a game plan. They kept mahomes on the sideline. The raiders are five and three. They've played the toughest schedule in the league. So far according to fbi they have five home. Games left out of their last eight there. They have a pretty good chance to be in the playoffs. And if you run up against them in the playoffs and you're the chiefs. I know they play again before the end of the regular season but as of now. That's the team that giving you trouble this year more than any other so i would say the biggest threat to knock them off in the playoffs. More so than the steelers or nobody you would sign up for andy against jon gruden and a big playoff spot. That's for sure. I guys sit tight because i insist we talk about golf because we are two days away from the masters after a seven month. Delay this year's masters champion will be crowned more than five hundred days after tiger woods. Victory in two thousand nine hundred beginning thursday both the first and second round will be available on espn and espn plus and tiger woods has been steady as a defending champion at majors. Finishing in the top ten in four of his last five starts including the two thousand six masters. It's been over ten years since woods. Last attempted to defend a major title. Doing so then the us open so a lot obviously has changed and here. He is our golf analysts. Curtis strange is live with from augusta national. So i'm envious and most certainly could wish that i could be there with you again. This year curtis. But i know it's going to be terrific to watch them. So let's talk about tiger. Let's start there. What is a reasonable expectation for him this week. Oh that's a tough. One answer depends on which tiger show is up. A the tiger hasn't shown much late he's only played seven terms and start best finishes so we're looking for something a little bit improved tiger but he He's still tiger woods. He's still the defending champion five. Tom green jacket owner. So You never say never. He knows that a play. The golf course right. We know he's not playing anywhere near the way. You need to play to win this. But i keep coming back to. He knows how to play golf. Course on this course. Just explain our who doesn't know just how valuable that is. Well it's a golf course. A lot of local knowledge is needed here where to miss it were to put it on the green trying to keep it below the whole mostly second shot golf course and he knows that veterans have advantage here. That's why you never see only time and fuzzy zeller a first timer win here. And when he comes to the gate and much like phil mickelson or any pass winter. The energy level is rising a great deal because it is a place for everyone who's has one absolutely now. We of course are all accustomed to seeing this in april here. We are in november. I've seen a little bit of the pictures and all of that. How would you describe of course. Conditions relative to what we're accustomed to every year exactly the same grass green the only difference the flowers but as a player wants to wants to bell rings look at those as his very often. You're focused on everything else. But it's the same golf course. We're going to have a lot of rain this week. So that will that will change things but you know with with being quiet out here. There's no energy right. Now that does affect the top players. They feed off this energy. They feed off the history and tradition here at augusta. They feed off the fans even on tuesday. So that's a huge difference right now for the entire atmosphere here at the masters one more let me ask you about bryce into shambo. Who of course has been the talk of the entire world for a year. How would you describe his chances of getting himself a double. Xl green jacket. this week. I will say that. I agree with your mike. I think he's the most talked-about pre-tournament player since maybe dj and ninety or seventeen. I'm sorry tiger woods. Heyday and jack. Nicklaus de shambo can't absolutely overpowered golf. Course drops at well over three thirty. Every time will flop bonkers. I think he's a heavy heavy favourite. He's a wonderful short game. He's a kept in touch people. Talk about when you hit it so hard. Can you tick keep your feeling your fingertips and your small muscles. He has done that in a showed. That bobby uso being winning the us open a couple of weeks back. you know. people haven't talked about. He's the current year us open champion. I it's been such an unusual year that everything doesn't feel quite normal but the one thing that will be normal is watching this weekend. We're looking forward to it. Have an egg salad sandwich. And my honor curtis. I wish i could be down here with you guys again this year and a reminder that we have the coverage coming your way all. We're looking forward to this this week. Masters week exclusive first and second round coverage from augusta thursday and friday starting at one eastern on espn and espn plus coming up on nfl. Star is doubling down on his bold opinion about drew. Brees and tom brady. You'll hear what he said and we'll tell you why he has it all wrong. That's coming up next. And don't miss i take later this morning. Packers legend brett farve talking all things. Nfl with steven a. And max later this morning connie. Sp what does swag who say. Do you know what i say. i say. Dan jones gangsta g. Look at me today. I'm already a bee's dc. I call you broke. Yes you cry so this is not exactly how i meant for this to go. Take that and smoke it. It's everybody's favorite game swag says. Well you hear what someone said and then swaggie will tell you what they actually meant and mark is. This is a really interesting one this kind of under the radar this weekend. So let me show you what happened. Juju smith schuster pre-game dancing on the star. Dr is right in that then spills over into the game. because judges scores a touchdown. It was actually a very big playing the game. And you know what he had in mind. He was going to reenact dairy. Tell owens celebration on the star but are but woods was having none of that. Here's what antwon. Here's what antoine quote. I saw video before the game. That had him on the stock. The stock was always doing stuff on tiktok. I knew him being my college teammate. College teammate he might do. I was gonna make sure he didn't get there. We have. We have zala rinse for that. So that is what he said. So swag i ball g. I got a mean mug on mug on. I'm mad about it too. But here's the deal. Antoine antoine that you would defend the star. But i need to defend that defend that. That's the that's the area automobile. He'll eat the have defended. That's the area. I need you to stop. Stop go into all guys defensively. I respect it. Not the star mean down in dallas. I have a tremendous amount of respect for it. But the star don't mean squat compared today in. Oh man that in we need we need that. Same intensity and zero tolerance for For defending the the next one is the saints who dominated tom brady. And the buccaneers on sunday. Night here's what cam jordan had to say about tom. Brady being the second greatest quarterback of all time about this win. Our job was tom. Brady biden i mean. We all know he gets up all even as we as we hands on early and often. Still the second quarterback for for reasons. I mean. he's getting that ball off hot. Hey i'm andy. I'm still not famous. But you might remember that. I started harry's. Because i was tired of overpaying for razors it always felt like big brands. Were taking advantage of us every time they improve something back then. Prices seem to go up. At harry's we take a different approach today. I'm proud to introduce our sharpest blades. Ever available at the same price before as low as two dollars each there are new sharper version of our german engineered. Blades guys who shave four days a week of told us that with our new blades. 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Oh and if you could bundle your renters and car insurance with geico it's easy to do online and we could save money and then when you read your murder mysteries at night. Could you read out loud but skip the murder parts because i get scared. Aiko for bundling made easy. Go to geico dot com. Today he says what does raghu say camera understand. Understand what you thought you meant you say it and then when you re watch the was like dang i got the name wrong. I missed the author of. I did bro. I get the lawyer. Teeter drew but after watching that video. Gee i'm convinced that cam jordan went back and say it with. I was supposed to say drew drew. Brees is the number two guy at the whisper. Tom brady being number one. That's the big because drew is number top tier number one number. Two number top tier. I gotcha cam. I got back okay. Finally the famous chiefs ferrari play took the sports world by storm. My my new favorite play the nfl. Season keyword. what andy. Reid and patrick mahomes had to say about it. So the last week's weeks for messing around with it. So i told him i said we're going to put it in me like crazy but you look good so it looks good. Let's try you talked about the plays called. It's called ferrari right all right. So that's what they said. What does swag who say. Oh the luxury g you know about this because this is a conversation that people with a lot of money have with each other. I have been in no soldiers before but this is what they had to read a pet my whole first of all. I saw him play with the ferrari at home and then i thought about it. Why would i take the poor's why would i take the asked him. I don't even need to rolls royce. Just put the ferrari and let you take it around for a spin. That's that's what these people have at their disposal they got luxury recalls all over the place that day they just decided to take the down ferrari out or whatever car he drives a little later i will explain to you why he is the mvp no matter what anybody says that is why goo says it continue as we go. Meanwhile let's talk about the next generation of great quarterbacks todd mcshay his latest twenty twenty one draft rankings. Have trevor lawn. Still at number one on the list you know. He's missed the last two games. He has to interceptions and seventeen touchdowns this season. He's been number one on this list forever number two on. Todd's list is justin fields second year starter. Just as many passing touchdowns as incompletions. This year he leaves the country and qbr. I don't look at this alabama's mack. Jones has climbed the ranks to become the refined quarterback in his first full season as a starter at alabama is a sixteen to two touchdown to interception ratio when he has the tied at a perfect six. And oh so there so there are going to get to hear is with us. And here's mcsherry early on mcshane. How close your evaluation valuations of our trevor lawrence and justin fields. And it's getting closer greeting reading renault watching justin fields. What i've loved is the fact that he's improved from. Last year to this year he impure he improved course of last season. And i wanted to see if you're going to be a little bit better in terms of getting off of that prime that prime not having to lock onto his i read and he's doing a little bit better. It's still a weakness. It's still not still not his game but he's big. He's strong he's smart. He's picking up everything the ryan day. The head come day the head. Coaching the him one of the best quarterback coaches and teachers and in college football. And i've been with what he's done. So i've moved him up from number five pre season to number two. But i still think. Trevor lawrence is better overall prospect. You can pick holes in both of their games. Trevor lawrence you'd like to see more dissipation throws in the middle field. I told you about justin fields. But they're both so talented and they're both so. Nfl ready this point. And you see the the maturity to not just in terms of their progressions in their res but how they are leading in how they're handling business. I've been so impressed with both quarterbacks this year they looked like wanted the draft but mcelroy. I know that you think there's a little more space between them. And i know you put together a taped show. Why did and tell is one hundred percents spot on we have seen justin fields takes this year and i want to go back to last year though just to indicate exactly where those strides to continue to take place. This was in two thousand nine hundred eighteen in the big ten champ at game. Look this is a receivers wide open all right. Why all people to work with. He just one time too late. The three rows behind as what would have been an enormous play. Turn into a catch contact and then then kind of sitting around there. We go. Just feels hitches eight nine. here's a guy open in the back of the end zone. He's got to throw it underneath the upright and allow his guy make play on the football so those are two plays of indicate what todd was just talking about the patient getting locked in on we have seen growth but the growth you get to the point in which he can overtake or even within striking distance of trevor lawrence. I'm very bullish but at this point. It's trevor a pretty sizable. Get justin fields. And then everybody else bear enough including in that everybody else now. Mcshea suddenly is mack jones. Why has he moved up. And just how does he look to you at this stage. This is a fun class screening. Trevor lawrence won you get justin fields to trae lance who. No one's talking about because he plays at north dakota state and they had a showcase game which was the strangest thing i've seen in college football in my life. He's he's probably number three but zach will sit at. Byu is having a huge year and mack jones is coming in and he's pulling the joe burrow. I'm not saying he's going to be number one overall. There's no he's not going to be but he's going from off radar to and may not even starting as as as well knows. It gave a freshman to post to be the starter and he steps in and refused to lose that job and he's gotten better and better every single game or the to pick sixes against auburn last year but bounced back and almost won. That game played great against michigan. And he's been on fire this year. So those are the five quarterbacks. We could have in the first round this year. That's why i'm fired up about this year's draft class because your time you can get five in the first round you got a lot of talented teams are really excited about what the prospects are have to sell out there for the moment but mcilroy we will get your thoughts on him as get our way through the season. Mcshea thank you. I'll take a break as we continue the jets and to ten point lead in the fourth quarter and they order and vanguard. They're the jets highlights of a monday night. Good game good games.

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis HR 1: Snitches get stitches

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I was telling you guys normally they show like kind of the cubs that I tell myself that if I saw that I can kick him in the face runaway and that'd be alright it shows you kick it into facing you run away. You know how you could be running down somewhere. There's a blind spot. Go come right out of the blind spot mama bear. Yeah there's a reason Mama. Bear is an expression. Bears are fast. Elsie there's not in the heels of Monrovia like on a residential strengths. Like in the neighborhood walking like going from door to door ask them some honey because the trap trick or treating right now. It's not winning the Pook he. I'm just saying Travis. I'm sitting here looking at it right now chopper seven. Abc News and look at it. It's walking literally from drawer to delete. The headline is bear spotted roaming Monrovia neighborhood s unit L. Neighbourhood. It'd be a little more worried for seven is spotlighting absolutely all right. So you mentioned you want to hear the news of the day. The News of the night. The News of the day is that the Lakers are finally back at it tonight. The Memphis Grizzlies are here and not only. Is it? Nice to have the Lakers back in any surplus Christie. Those are the rover. You know those I believe are black. Bears Yeah Black or brown bears. Everything Brown bears are big. I think that's a black bear. I think that could be interesting. That it that Sorta grizzly bears are what their e newer miss. No but I'm saying what color they're brown but there are different species. I get but the Grizzlies logo the look of in color wise. Yeah out or their uniforms arm at the bear is with them when they have a bears. He's got blue eyes though. It's more of a creative license situation. And well you want. Green is like an unbearable. And they're gonNA take a nap soon and they'll put him back where he belongs there back at it tonight. We get the grizzlies and not only. Is it? Nice to have him back? But you get to see what is probably going to be their first round playoff opponent in Memphis because you look at where Memphis and the standings. They're not going to catch the seventh team and the team. That's in ninth and everybody below ninth. Feels like there's a whole lot of road for them to catch Memphis. This is probably your first opponent and if it is you go out there and you show them what it is you show them what it's about This is the atmosphere that you're going to be in the playoffs. Your home court because clearly. You've got a better record 'em so you got the you know you're GONNA have your first couple of games at home and and You you're going to chip off whatever a little bit of rust from Kabul and all the other vacation spots that you had take our time when you when you when you're in the flow of a season and you get a little downtown. You're talking yesterday about the bye week. The Not really a bye week. They would keep you around for a lot of time but if you did you ever buy. We literally got the better part of a volume of course. Nothing you've got. I've got an entire week off. Does it take time. We were rolling to reactivate to day. The speed of sports once you a danger I practice. It might be a little sloppy to feel might be smelling like a liquor store. Everybody's pores over. Nah You gotTA sweat it out. It's seriously though it's like when we when you guys have significant breaks and you know they're out in their hanging out new join himself. That day of practice men hold steamed the dishonors full crazy. But you get the first day is going to be a little rusty. You Guys GonNa be out there missing shots. I'm sure you know. Legs are going to be. And then they get going after that the second day they're gonNa get going so you expect them to hit the court tonight and be right. Yeah because they've already they've already got all the the rust off whatever a day or so ago. I'm sure they had. This isn't Dayton flying last night right. They're not getting shots up for the first time this afternoon. Oh that's not the case when they got those shots up the first time it was building a house. I promise you I think I mean I know. Lebron works his BUTT OFF AD. But there's some guys there. I'm sure in like to have a good time. Yeah why not? I mean listen there veterans and more importantly they have a very good record against teams of this nature and by teams nature. I mean teams. That are okay. Too Bad the Memphis. Grizzlies are an okay team. You know greatly exceeded expectations. Soldano on pooh-poohed them they were supposed to be awful. So Awful Andre Dawson. I much rather stay at home and he in an Burgers that show for the squad. John Moran stood up and say you go ahead and do what you do about the Wendy's games so they overachieved awesome. They're not a threat. That's that was. I said that John Mara forgot but go back to the. They're not a threat thing but if beat them tonight. Do you feel differently? All of a sudden going into the postseason if method not only would they win but they will have one on the road. They'll be here in. La they say they beat him tonight and is there and again there. Something extraordinary would have to happen for the Lakers to lose that series right but if they do beat them that I think all of a sudden it's like hey why not only is it just a one off loss not only. Is it a lawsuit team that you're GONNA play in the playoffs but it is Kinda start? The we're we're starting the final push the final twenty nine games and you just lost to the eighth seed. They do these. These games do have value over the last couple of months. I wouldn't be surprised at key's point if the first couple of minutes in the first quarter is a little bit rusty. I wouldn't be surprised by that but the reason why I'm not concerned is because is very difficult in my opinion to have eighteen based around a rookie. That's going to overpower Lebron. James Lead team like to me. It's just a simple matter of experience. I'm not questioning their heart. The determination they might even win a game and a series matchup. But it's just hard for meat in Magin the brawn James being taken out by Rookie Point Guard in Memphis whether the Breyer's brown or black or whatever they call it a bit happens. Grizzly Bar- Panda Koala Koala obviously the loser to the Memphis Wallis. Yeah especially in a playoff series. That's not gonNA happen. They dropped one if they dropped it. Tonight okay what if they dropped to? What if they dropped the ball to stick with second? Because the Boston think we'll get to that one. I think matters a great meal or are you saying too. So that's why I'm I'm talking about two series against Memphis. We talk about if they go in the first round number one seed play. The eight seed led by a Kid. Who's brand new to this? League is in it for the first time going up against the whatever the exact opposite of inexperienced is. That's what Lebron James Is. The UBER experienced. You can't be more eight times in a row in the finals multiple championships. Mep's greatest player of all time arguably if they lose a couple of those now going into that second round that that is a thing well it depends on how they lose. John Moran is a very good player right. He's my choice rookie year. I think he's most people's choices at this point for rookie of the year. He's capable of going off afford these. He's got good any forty point game from a superstar on your squad. Can't be the impetus to help you get a game. But to to g you're going to need Djalmir answer having outstanding season but you look at the Ross and go okay. Who else is going to go off? Because I don't think Grayson Allen is going to go off. I don't think Jaren Jackson junior is going to go off. I don't think Dillon Brooks or you know what I'm saying. After that the works has got A. He'll say something he'll say he'll say go off go off. You need that kind of talent. I wouldn't worry about them dropping more than one game in the series to if they you know because playoff time is different is go kick to another level. There's no experience that that matches the bronze than that's on Memphis team in terms of the playoffs. That knows what it's about or Rondo or a Dwight Howard. I mean I just go on and on and on their their significant disadvantage when it comes to that Memphis is not going to be a hurdle they will get through that the other side of it though you hinted at a minute ago. Is Boston on on Sunday? They they've got the Boston Celtics on Sunday. That is a team that beat them by thirty plus points about month or so give or take. I get that back. And if you lose that Bianchi efforts by a point or by ten or by fifteen or whatever it is it's another zero and it's an and it's one of those one offs and yes series is different than a one off but that would be a two off at that point and if you keep having zero on that that is a totally different thing. Ever get that bad guys Jason Tatum dunked on a Bra like you. Bad was they did they. Didn't they did not have a good deal in Boston when they lost to. Boston was looking forward to get into New York to play the Knicks. I'm sure GET OUT OF BOSTON TO NEW YORK. Have a little fun. Uh-huh coors was spotted with Vanessa elegance hanging out and having dinner and that was a good one for him. But then I get the same time you know you look at Boston. Coming into La. That's a big marquee game here staples center. The last one was Christmas so they get an opportunity now to get back in front of their crowd against a big time opponent to show us exactly what it is that they can take care of business. And do you know so? That one's coming up on Sunday. That one matters a great deal. David Ortiz finally started. The you know whose fault this is don't you and he couldn't have been more wrong. We'll get into a next on the morning show on seven ten. Espn Clean Matt Time Right. Well it was only a matter of time before somebody said you know whose fault this entire cheating thing is author we all Senate already. He's National Nope. Nope no you know who is to blame for this thing. Getting out of control and now we're now going to no no no Mike. Fires is the one to blame for this entire thing because he would have done it at a different time all of that according to big Papi who apparently is fully recovered enough to talk about. What's going on a major league baseball? He had the commissioners back but he called Mike. Fires a rat. I I'm mad at this guy. The picture that came out talking about unlimited. Why off the you make your money after you get you ring. Decide to talk about. Why don't you talk about it on this season? When he was going on. Wh-why you didn't say I don't WanNa be no pilot or now so you snitch. You know what I mean. What are you GonNa talk about after well? That's that's my problem. You know why nobody say anything while it was going on people put his not stupid okay so he called him a snitch. And You you knew somebody was going to say it you. You knew that it was gonna come out eventually now. This is a guy that is wildly popular among baseball fans. This guy that I think if you're classifying would fall firmly into the category of old school right but the problem is there's a very good reason. He didn't do it while he was there. Everybody in baseball knew this was going on Mike. Fires can't blow the whistle in there. Because then he's out of the game they they would have run him out okay. It was only when he got out later and then said Hey. Here's what's going on told these other teammates and told the athletic ultimately that's why he didn't do it there because if he'd be done it at the moment it may have blown up very briefly but they would have very quickly tried to conceal this whole thing and it wouldn't have happened. There's all sorts of Jonathan Lacrosse. Everybody in baseball knew this was going on. It was only when fires went public that we got a solution to it so so everybody in baseball new in the end. So you steal face the Houston Astros in knowing that they were doing it. Yeah well here look. Let me play this where you. Here's Jonathan Luke. Roy's been in the major leagues ten years talking about how baseball knew this was going on when whenever we found out how they were doing it all makes sense and then then it was like what are you GonNa do. We had wealth Oakland then and we had let me let me know and they just called and said something. They kind of just said something to him. They didn't go through the whole investigation and wasn't until fires came out publicly they They went and looked at it really hard. That's why David Ortiz. Because PEOPLE DECIDE. Hey got a problem over there. Nothing got done. It was only when he went public. Did get done. That's why it's disappointing. So Major League Baseball essentially was covering it up or no well worked actively trying to pursue it which is kind of sort of covering up. Well no there's a difference subtle subtle. The difference is actually getting something and draping over it and just turning your back and not acknowledging it. There's there's a difference. There is a difference but to use your analogy. There's one thing if I say okay I'm not gonNA look over there but I still if if I know what's going on but I'm going to look the other direction. Maybe I'm not actively concealing it but I'm not doing responsibility to clean it up. So yes you now to a crime if you will and baseball definitely deserved to be dragged across the codes for that. Manfred once again. That's a failure in your leadership but another failure in leadership would be Mr Ortiz. You're out of the game. You have a great deal of capital and goodwill to your point Travis. He's very very popular and not just in Boston. But across baseball. In general this is now the time for you to be an ambassador to your sports. This is not a time for you to try to make sure that the game that has been so good to you continues to have the trust and support a fans and what you don't do is look at a whistle blower who's trying to keep the game clean and call him a rat or snitch especially you you. He didn't do anything You Manny wasn't he didn't do anything you just played on the team. He benefited from guys on doing things that they buy in Ortiz tribe. Now that has floated through this really Scott. Free if you pay attention to a lot of what was written it. Maybe shouldn't have gone like that. No I understand I get it I don't like the fact that he called the dude. He's trying to rally the troops but he's also trying to protect the red sox from what's getting ready to get handed down to them to that's it. Yeah well it. Some of that yeah. We're now I'm a Guy. Ambassador of the reds. It's Redskins Red Sox herb to she's Red Sox to soften that blow take some of the attention away from them in kind of say. Well the reason is is because of him that this is all happening. No because you are cheating yogurt caught. Why in no matter? Who told you still cheated? The conscious was clear when I left the team that I was on so I got a clear conscious now. And it's like it's almost like saying Dude Watch. Three people get bludgeoned but because he was in the room he didn't say anything he just was quiet it. He finally left the building and he finally went to the cops so he's a snitch. Exactly exactly no look the other part of this to the doesn't make any sense to me. The reason the David Ortiz is going there is this is not because sometimes when you get these you know all he did the right thing versus. Oh He's a snitch. And it's this back and forth between you don't understand the culture of what we're talking about what we see here. What you hear here stays here. You're not a part baseball. Players are saying this is outrageous. This is not right the media this is not an outside entity saying hey you got a problem in here. We found one guy. That's willing to tell the truth. Okay the steroid thing. Nobody really said anything other than one or two guys. Everybody was on aid saying blank. Right right every resigning own it. I get that but this is you have an a group of people. The Astros and to your point gave very soon the red sox and everybody else is saying this is BS. This is absolutely unacceptable. He didn't snitch. And he's the one guy on an island saying I'm the one honest man in this whole place. It's everybody against the Astros. I don't know why we're just doesn't get that the Astros and the sock and it starts Pedro Martinez also came now from a red sock and said something in terms of you know who is this guy. Why did he say something? Sooner Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah and. It's like on look I get it. You have to protect where your money comes from. You Wanna be able to have still have access to the private plane. Donate off season to go visit family. You still want that relationship. But you can't tarnish the game or trying to maintain a relationship with one organization. There's there's a nice little way of walking down the middle so that neither side fills after being Shane. Well at the at the same time if I'm David Ortiz. I'm not getting in the middle of it because I'm not I'm not going to strain my relationship with my former employer that I still have a relationship with and I'm not gonNA throw somebody underneath the bus just because I'm trying to get extra kudos from the people that are have a relationship with do not do that did David. Ortiz put voice to what a lot of people are thinking or is he. Is he in a very small minority of people that look at my fires like this because it doesn't usually sometimes like somebody will say something like Ortiz settled? Let me tell you about this guy. He takes all his money then he says I get that. This doesn't feel like he's giving voice to all bunch of people that feel like. It feels like a very small group of people that look fires differently. I bet you a lot of people that look at him as a dime somebody who dimed out but they also understand why dime though you know you look at it and he told well that's kind of what I think that is what it is and then the ones that felt like they were wrong. D- done wrong and Aaron judge. The the cody bellinger's kershaw. Those guys look at him as a hero. He certainly not snitch. Because baseball knew about this and wasn't doing anything they they knew that it was told on baseball. He no he yes yes he that he wasn't just the Astros doing this. It was it was that there's a problem with the legitimacy of these games. Everybody else knew it. There's an Jonathan Luke. Roy said we went to baseball and they really didn't do anything about it. This was the only way something was going to get done. I just don't I just don't understand how this is on fires in any way shape or form said consider the source what he's trying to protect and what. He looked the other way too as well because that championship. You've got with manny. They had needles sticking in. It might fire snitch or no eight seven seven seven and ESPN EIGHT. Seven seven seven. Three seven seven six. The owners signed off on the new. Cba It's up to the players next day. Are they going to voted through? That's coming up next on the morning. Show on seven ten. Espn due to attention. Residents of Monrovia. It's still out there extreme. Look out your window before you walk outside. Big Bear live air chopper siren or anything that they there's a great episode of the Simpsons. Where something like this happens and they get still bomber. Look for his lost. Only according to air seven Chopper seven eyewitness news. It's literally moving from neighborhood to neighborhood. Everywhere I mean is this is going from backyard Dr It's just weird. Listen it's only six thirty. People were dashing out not getting the car to go to work late. There's no bear siren walkout yogis this sauce. Somebody attack coming out of hungry is he. Brought San Fran son truck. Now all right I want to get some of these calls talking about David Ortiz. And what he said about the old cheating scandal to calling Mike. Fires a snitch. But breaking news here inside the studio that Elza laid on me a minute ago. Don Don Don Tru. She had. You've never seen the movie. Gladiator never seen again. You know what it is awesome. Last night it was on. I had just left them see. I'm just not out of my mind into those type of movies. Do Bridges Opening and closing and people ride horses with knives in their hands? Chasing people? See The queen and King. I'M NOT INTO CAESAR'S I don't eat too when I see that I'm like I'm not. I'm just not into that type of move. What how many have you seen with the drawbridge Turkey off? I've seen some of those movies though. This is going to a castle or something like that for some reason because this Mike I noticed no Russian mole and walking into into into fight to have a football player. Yes who was playing in? This era at this time was movies out. Yes that's a tap into. This film is mind boggling. Every athlete I've ever spoken to play during this time period. Talks about Grad of. You know three hundred either not bothering or any of those type of movies. I can't even. What was the one on the source negative? Well did you just Conan and all that I can watch this bear code in very integrate with long hair. You're a theatre. Let's set the bar where it needs to be said if I have seen a movie that you have not seen than. You're doing it wrong because I don't get to a million movies. Yeah but even even if I'm flying I'm not watching all right. Let's try some of these calls on the sprint people's hotline. Let's try Tony in Compton. Tony you are up first. You're on the morning show. What's going on Good Morning? Fellas doing gladiator. No saying we're GONNA be mad at came off on me. I ain't never drawbridges long hair. Another recent hair riding a horse. Tony I appreciate I think you guys are looking at this situation to black and white David Ortiz. I don't Maybe the way he said it was wrong and aggressive but his playing solid I This is a baseball team key. Play football like y'all are family like you just talked to those snickering brother. If any of y'all got a brother or sister just because they're doing something wrong. You're not GONNA go tell them. I mean if they get caught they get caught. But you just not gonna be like a police officer my brother over here selling drugs. You know what I mean like you. Just go let it happen so From the heart. I could just telera brother like you. Just go let it happen. If it happens it happens so check this out though Tony on Real Talk David my problem with David Ortiz. Is You you on a team? That was an error where people cheating. They were cheating a different way. And you had no problem with doing that. So know you've benefited off of that. You didn't say nothing because you were on the team and you just felt like okay. You'll conscious you accepted it and that's what it was but when you look at where. Mike is coming from. Mike left it and he's looking at it now from the outside instead of the inside and now he's saying you know what man it's gotTa stop because I'm a pitcher to and now it's GonNa Affect Meat plus a whole bunch of other people and I have new brothers in now. He has new brothers. And that's just part of it. There's an element to this as well. I think the words David. Rtc is set up minds. Business this is not just a straight analogy of if your brother is committing a crime tournament. That's not that's not. That's not a great comparison because part of what we're talking about in athletics is fair. Play and I don't want to sound like Pollyanna here and say. Oh you know somebody think of children and all that but there's something about the reason that these Games are interesting to us is because we assume they're played on the up and up. We assume that it's a legitimate contest. Between who has better athletes who has a better plan who is executing the plan better. Not Who's better cheater th? That's not what this is about. This is not about. Hey I can get away with this I can tell you I'm not gonNA turn in my my brother can't you don't think I've been on teams while no I can look at not necessarily can look at him but I know I know what you look like the day in which you look like tomorrow. I know what you I know. You're recovery today versus what it was yesterday so I can certainly tell when dues was doing certain things and if I left that particular team went to another team. I'm GonNa let my teammates minute dude on that. Let's try one more here. Let's try one more. Let's go to Carson this time and Hassan Assan. You're on the sprint people's hotline what's up or gentlemen. Good morning morning morning So so basically I mean you can you from La. If you're from the hood and you do something you tell it on the game you keep it to yourself but this difference though is the we we can't. We can't take our experience in the streets boy from a baseball perspective. He did the right thing. I'm just saying the terminology. Snitch is when you go and you go. Hello somebody else to get yourself out of trouble. Yes exactly which is why he did that. He Got Away. No no no. He wasn't gonNA throw him in the baseball slammer. Yeah he's not. He's Y'all your home. I'm finished rates to right so listen. A snitch is somebody who's like who gets caught by the cops get squeezed a little bit and they tell to get themselves out of trouble. That's not what he did. He wasn't in any kind of trouble. He volunteered information wrongdoing. Which is a whistle blower? A snitch can squeeze a whistle blower conscience. Tell them this is in right. Those are two different very different. What are you ill or whistleblower? Thank you I've been to jail and I can tell you I ain't nothing nobody so nobody talks. We all walk. Ooh already got defense mechanism. That's the key I get the most out of your tax refund and get a great phone stopped by sprint store today and learn how you can get a Samsung Galaxy S. ten for an amazing deal. Get a network for unlimited and a great price at sprint visit your local sprint store sprint dot com or call eight hundred sprint one to learn more restrictions apply the NFL new CBA. Half of the easy for me to say right half the people that need to sign off. Have your people see the players need to do it next will they? That's coming up next on the morning. Show at seven ten. Espn so the NFL owners. Yesterday signed off on the new collective bargaining agreement proposal which we talked about a lot yesterday the nuts and bolts of it as far as fans are concerned is it would add a seventeenth game. It would add a seventh playoff team to each division and are the things that we spent a lot of time. There's obviously a whole bunch of money and pre and conditions that go along with the owner said. Yep We're good. Let's move forward now. It goes to the players and it needs to go to the player Reps. If they get two thirds of the player reps to give it a thumbs up then it goes to the general player population and all they need is a simple majority Do you expect do they. Do you expect the players both the wraps and the general population of the players to sign off on this because some players have been very outspoken. That they don't like it namely is j what I do I I like the deal Having been in the NFL been around to kind of understand what these things are collective bargaining negotiating things that need to be addressed when you look at what has been proposed from the CBA Standpoint too I mean from the NFL PA to the CBA with owners that the NFL PA sent the memo to them and said here's our negotiating. Here's we want to be. We want this this and this and the owner said okay. They liked it. Players are going to be skeptical because they don't understand that these things have been worked on for quite some time. This is not some. They worked on a month ago. This this is apparently something. They've been working on for over a year over year. Busy busy over a year and players. Just get it and they say well. Why did he owners just sign off on it so fast? It's because they think that they being duped but they gotta understand. You're not being duped. It's been the Goshi aiding for awhile. And some of the things that are in their beneficial not only to the current players. The young players but also veteran players. That need some help from the NFL. Because whatever happened on there in their career along the way it didn't go the way that they planned it too but the thing is is I appreciate the NFL PA stepping up and continue to support the veteran players that have have gone on in retired from the League because they've given so much to the league giving so much back to the NFL PA that they're looking out for them as well. It does seem that the the consensus seems to be that. This is a good deal in particular for the guys at the bottom of the roster. It's a much better deal for those guys that the League minimum right now is five hundred. Eighty five thousand. Yes and that this would raise that league about about one hundred hundred your intake. Which if you look five hundred ninety. Five thousand is a ton of money for anybody real world. That's a lot but if you're at the bottom of that knows it and you get a hundred grand. That's what are you drinking costed. Oh what do you consider the bottom of the roster? What do you mean the fifty three man? What would you consider the? I'm talking about the guys that make league minimum talking positions. I'm talking about the guys that make the least amount of money. Yeah but but but okay so the way you have to look at it. Is that when you draft it right in your your first round? Pick your base salary. Everybody's first year base salaries the same. Whether you the number one pick or you last picking a never got picked. They're all the five eighty five. The higher pigs get bigger bonuses guarantees but the base salaries right so you assume the players that are drafted higher have longer careers in the NFL. Because they got guarantee money so they're going to be there for five years. Yeah this affects the guys. That are undrafted guys. That seventh rounder. Six rounders fifth rounders. Because their money is small in their career span is even smaller. So when you look at a guy it's it's a six round pick that makes the team chances are he's GonNa be checking for the waiver wire every single day throughout his career freight. He's GonNa get clipped afraid he's GonNa get clipped so when you add extra hunter a hundred and fifty thousand dollars to that numbering year one year year two or three and he's out of the year ah out of the League. After year. Three he put another two hundred and seventy five thousand in the bank. That goes a long way. Sure that's a big fight on top of that you talk about guys on the on the practice squad. Practice squad makes about eight thousand week right now. So that's what eight thousand week? Seventeen eighteen weeks. It's about ninety thousand dollars or so. They're going to increase that number closer to eleven thousand a week now and it'll go from twelve guys on the practice squad to fourteen. So now you have more people being employed more opportunities to impress the and make money then when you go and you look at Guys that have fifth year options. The fifth year option so first round picks get four years right. They give four years depending on where you're slotted at in the first round you get three three. And a half years of fully guaranteed money that fourth year may only be half guarantee the fifth year option. So what they tend to what they're negotiating is for the fourth fifth year to be fully guarantee the fourth year. If you're a top ten pick the fourth is going to be fully guaranteed if you a twenty five on down you need to negotiate. The percentage of the fourth year. That's going to be. That's going to be guarantee what the NFL is saying. Is We want the fourth benefit guarantee because the fifth year is exercise in the beginning of your fourth year but it's only guaranteed due to injury that that you have between your fourth year in the fifth year. They won't that fully guarantee which is a win win again key. I want you to listen to Dan. Glaviano here and he's talking about why some of the players have a concern about this new collective bargaining agreement. People shouldn't assume that it's going to pass tomorrow. I still think it's more likely than not but there is a lot of strenuous objection among players to the idea of seventeenth game and a lot of concern among the players in terms of. Are we getting enough in return for putting our bodies at risk for an extra game? So that's going to be a long and probably very heated discussion among the player reps tomorrow and we'll see how it comes out if they voted all and if they vote yes to move this thing for the deputy sticking point if enough guys like Richard Sherman. Jj waterson that seventeenth game is a bad deal. We're not getting enough for putting ourselves out there one more time. Could they blow it up? No I if if you if you're going to allow the seventeen game the blow this deal then that's not very smart. I think I think when you look at it. There's guys this lined up like I just talked about. They sign off seventeen game. I love rich and I love. Jj Widen what he's doing but they got money man they good. They got their money. They'll be out of the league in a couple of years. This is about the guys that are coming. They are drafted low. The need to make the money you cannot think about. You can't think about yourself you got to think about everybody else. Can't think about what you would do. You think about what how to help everybody. Even veteran guys retire guys. You look at the the the not active players even on the active players their pensions increased ten percent which great four one K. match goes up to another thirty thousand dollars. The newest increases another one hundred thousand dollars per year. Which is all that's fine. But you talk about the guys in in some of these guys at a former players. They get a chance to get retroactive in terms of some money. That's back due to diem from a while ago They get to the health benefits moving forward on their gene upshaw plan. They also get a network of hospitals and doctors across the country. Today can go to for medical benefits for free. All that stuff is important. Not that little bitty hole the seventeenth game that that's not. That's not that important. Big into grant drinks. Yeah all right. Lebron James Higher Office. One of his says he should think about it. We'll tell you who. And what lebrons response was. That is coming up next on the morning show on seven ten. Espn also the morning show is hosting our third annual AFC Kickoff Party and we're giving away passes every single hour. Here's how you can win. You need to call eight. Seven seven seven ten. Espn caller number seven. Who can answer this question? Who called Mike? Fires a snitch. 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Segment but a nice job by Jeff Saturday no question and we will turn our attention back to the NFL as we continue starting right now because we had usery at the midway and that's where we're getting up with the bears beaten up on Monday night are they more paper Tigers van monsters after all meanwhile it seems impossible but it just may be true are the browns better without their best player we'll explain the inexplicable and then the cowboys violating football's most sacred code. Is there any way they come back from this or should they just blow the whole thing up right now? Those. Another question as we get up with you starting right now but the game of the night last night I ever Monday night game at so far stadium in. TITLETOWN. Los Angeles they could win the world series tonight there looking for Monday night football last night behind a Ron Donald ticket on the bears and in early first quarter look at that rams break in the huddle. Quick Likened Jared Goff quick. Flick Josh Reynolds quick touchdown ends up seven nothing through for two thousand, nine and two touchdowns. Second Quarter bears down seven three. We show you this because it appeared they had a first down and with the bears offense that's cause for celebration but Jalen Ramsey wasn't even having that. Stopping at short. Call on the field was the first down Ram challenge call reverse bears but it was that kind of the later in the quarter fares down ten three and the password starts to make its presence. Felt Aaron Donald Gregg Gains, team meeting at the quarterback full fueling the pressure, not only from Donald all night. But from the former bear Leonard Floyd getting the last laugh he becomes one of his two sacks on the night lands had a total of four. Ten three at half-time third quarter, same school rams at the ball first and ten and the bear defense starting to wear down, you can feel it happening watching here watches Malcolm Brown scoot through and then pushes the pile. He's GonNa wind up on the one yard line rams rush for one hundred, sixty, one yards on the night of than adding injury to insult on that play Khalil mack down and shake up very next plate Malcolm Brown did the dirty work reward them let them get the one yard touch and they do rams up seventeen to three ensuing bears drive. CHICAGO GETS IT in the Red Zone Nick foles trying desperately to make something happen. Fill in the third quarter down to scores but here's one of his two interceptions on the night. Nick. FOLES QBR for the game thirty seven bears can't get anything going rams of winner on Monday night football twenty, four ten. Obviously state knee obviously, the offense we we gotta get stuff figured out. It's not not good enough to. You know to be outscored by your by your defense offices is unacceptable to ultimately does you know allow you to grow because it ultimately sucks but you you have to learn how to get through it so that's that's the stage read as a team. We've been fortunate to come out back in some games and you know this was not one of. So it is time for good calls which are brought to you by subway and as they bring the crew in here, these teams have the same record but boy does it feel different and speaking of good calls Sean let's start with the good not sean. But Greg, let's start with Sean. McVeigh who called a masterful game last night? What did you see from that rams offense? saw a clear and established identity that is rooted in jet sweep and off tackle run married up with bootleg. It was just beautiful because they got to so many different ways look at the jet sweep right left the right exactly what you're always gonna see they do all the time they most NATO to be off tackle, run out to the right and look neutral the pass rush because Khalil. Max Thinking. It can't just react he can't just run the quarterback where you might be dropping. He's got to think about action underneath Robert Woods catches it nice play early in the game exact same jets we've action left the right same run fake action. Back to the right he's sweeps around this guy secure in the edge. Now up the mountain front, just gather yourself through a nice easy throat, a van Jefferson on the comeback pitching catch no problem whatsoever, and then finally, I love to build the answers. This time got the jets we go underneath that they faked the run to the left bears, play it wealth. They actually collision the slide underneath but guess what slam flats built in that's the fourth option you can throw it to him and. He's always open. It's really amazing. The way they marry up their run concepts, jet sweep concepts with multiple different actions on their naked bootlegs they did. So with quick count, they did so by changing the launch point and I thought McVeigh Kevin O'CONNELL did a remarkable job keeping that pass rush neutralized by showing them a bunch of different looks. All right. So they get to five and two by beating the entire NFC east and then beating Chicago last night so I go. Let's talk about the five and to Chicago bears as you watch them play do you feel like you're watching a team that will be playing in the playoffs in January? I'm not G enlists would greg just showed there is a part of the issue we look at the creativity of John mcbain, the jets, we motion changing leverages for defenses and not being able to see the hand action behind when they get sweep in the rams it is so difficult for defensive on other side Chicago. Let's land up in this formation that we've been lining up in all season long and these are the. Plays we run out of it and the defense gets a beat on you. Aaron down was able to impact and effect this game because he knew when the players Roach was was going to happen and then to when you look at the trends in this league when you look at what teams are doing now there's a bunch of I can't be. There's a segment on his show he can't be, but we call it legitimate. Candy in the NFL there is nothing that the bears doing the threaten you defensively they're saying we're going land up and see if our guys are better than your guys and they don't have the pieces. I like Robinson on the outside but the the run game is still a little stagnant and they're trying to play this safe play type offense ought to play in the hands of their defense and defenses ain't winning championships no. In the NFL, you're GONNA have to put up some points to even get there. So that's one side of the equation. Jeff. Let me come to you on the other. This is the first season NFL history where an entire division could wind up in the playoffs because they added a wildcard everyone is over five hundred in the NFC west actually the last place team San Francisco who's in the Super Bowl last year and therefore. Do you believe they all get into the playoffs this year. No I don I think the saints in the Bucks One of those too. So I think three of the four will get in and what's interesting is I. Probably think the cardinals are going to be the one that gets left out is as bad as San Fran has been hurt with injuries I think you're watching that team they're becoming more and more physical as each week goes on if they can stay in decently healthy nobody wants to play in there as well coached as anybody in the NFL I think the cardinals are relying too much on column early on Murray and what he's. Trying to do I think Russell Wilson helped him the other night with those three interceptions but if you're looking at it, this is an incredibly good division but I think ultimately only three of the four get in high again, we finish up on Monday night where both teams are five and two but boy does not feel like a similar story for them. Both guys sit tight. Let Me Bring Graziano here. We're GONNA run the hurry up and there is some news this morning from Tampa Yeah Adam schefter reporting Antonio Brown's officially signed his contract with the buccaneers. The way this works is he can. Head, into the building starting tomorrow assuming all of his Kobe tests have come back negative. You can be in team meetings. He can do some workouts and you can be on the practice field I can be on practice skills next. Tuesday, which is after the day after his suspension expires. So Watch out for a view on the practice field in Tampa next week. But this week he can to meetings and stuff like that. Christian. McCaffrey was on the practice field for the Carolina Panthers yesterday, which is encouraging. He's missed few games with that sprained ankle. Now, the panthers play this week Thursday night. So it's still a little bit of time crunch to get McCaffrey back and it still would be I, believe a bit of a surprise be played this week but the fact that he's on the practice field at least brings up the possibility that that could have. Michael Thomas The saints wide receiver hasn't played since week one. He doesn't look like he's going to play this week. It would be a surprise if he got out there remember the ankle injury then he had the disciplinary issue then he had the by then last we get a hamstring injury. So he's still dealing with two problems with his leg and until it gets cleared up, they're not gonNA play but so far. Yeah. Kinda lost season to this point. For a guy that last year set the single season record for receptions and a guy who last year you could have made an argument was valuable player in the League, and then you just point hasn't played since week one and these are unusual circumstances a fight in practice. Then he gets injured in practice is there's some reason to think something is going on in New Orleans other than your natural. Scepticism and cynicism right? Like that's that's always wonder when something like this because it feels weird to your point but to this point, no, they're saying once he fully healthy, he will play art. We'll keep an eye on obviously every week feels like an eternity but we're not even halfway through the season. We'll see what he can contribute this year. Meanwhile, we're just getting rolling coming up it seems. Impossible but it might be true while the browns actually better without Odell we will explain the inexplicable and we've talked so much about the cowboys response to the hit on Andy Dalton but there's another side to it. That has one of our guys outbreak and you'll hear what that is is this hour continues and we have a second poll question today similar to the first put were flipping the conference. Got For. Best Team in the NFC Tampa Green Bay Chicago Seattle cast your vote. We'll hear from you later this hour get on ESPN. What does swagger say you know what I I say Dan Jones is a gangster Angie. I'm already obese. So we just going to be Beastie I call you broke. Yes. It's is not exactly how I meant for this to go take dead and smoking. I look forward to this all week. This is where Marcus Spears here's the things that other people say then tells you what they really mean and we start with this everyone's still marveling over decay metcalf chasing down Buddha Baker after his interception Russell Wilson the other night cliff Kingsbury was asked after the game. If he thought Baker was going to score on the play here's what he set. The I did until that huge stallion of human came galloping out of nowhere the phenomenal anticipation by him. DJ Make F is absolute free athlete and what an effort play by him I mean, that's High. School coach be our for years i. don't give a play. That's what cliff Kingsbury says, what Swag who say? Damn cliff I'm right there with you. I was thinking where on his other two legs because that is not a human running down Buddha, Baker that looks like a heart coming out the gate running down a normal human being decay may have is not normal and g when it happened I tweeted out it a no way decayed make from work on. It is one of my favorite place of the NFL season. He can't stop watching it. It's kind of like the stiff arm. It's so spectacular. Let's just keep it going I. don't even want to get to the next one until we see him all the way down ever. This is a guy who gave up on a plate. Well, I didn't score a touchdown earlier in the season. Now makes the ultimate play. That's a great one markets next one. Next one is here another critical play from Sunday. The Falcons could've run out the clock for a last second field goal against the lions but todd Gurley fell into the end zone for a touchdown. Detroit got the ball back. They wind up winning the game here was girlies reaction to the play. I was mad as hell. Yeah I was trying not to minimum took here. Is I shit went down you know. But with. Half. Scores. That's it in school and I said in the school or At what Gurley said what the Swagger said? God know what the Hell I'm supposed to do but I'm not good enough not to score a touchdown all my life as a dear. Old did to the end zone crossed. The goal land make plays put points on the board. So I'm GONNA cursed all the all out right now because I'm not good enough not to score a touchdown. That's it point blank period curse cars, cars, cars. To. This weekend that we saw that happen happen in the Penn state game and it happened there. All right meanwhile I'm really looking forward to this Baker Mayfield was in such a good mood after the browns dramatic win over the bengals. He dropped some excellent when asked about bouncing back from a rough start, here's what he said. You know I, it's just the necessary mindset of. Whatever it takes win. THAT FIRST QUARTER STOP DROP Down Shop. Will. That's What he said, what a swag who say? Shot out the makes the first thing that I pay the out was Baker in that ever revolving cycle of ball out and the going crazy and that's what Baker doing quoting lyrics they answered in the locker room door, his bog fizzle beat the bottom line is this out WANNA seeds. Baker celebrate after he gets a job against the team best like the burst is Babbel's that's going on right now when his deal mixed against Jay Z, and you win neck game or deal makes against GNAWS, and you win that game. Against Kevin Gates or the makes against all another great rapper. D. Makes Lyrics after you just wrapped against Vanilla ice. I wanted to get one and alleged rap. You beat legend Baker and are right there with the big me. If we're not contractually kept from doing. So I would right now literally do that entire Song I, stop collaborate and listen. I've done it on TV before and I can do it again but I will not ruin your day with it. Meanwhile, Baker Mayfield is he actually better without Odell? Is that a real question? These are the numbers. This is him with on the And without on the right Odell Beckham on the field during his time in Cleveland and we had this argument earlier and at the risk of bringing it back I am bringing Greg mcelroy back in because we just couldn't completely leave it. There could Baker Mayfield actually be better greg without ob bj on the field. He is Greenie and the numbers support it. You realize that Baker Mayfield is completing almost eighty percent of his passes when not targeting Odell well, conversely, when targeting Odell, he completes just over fifty percent. He has more interceptions when targeting over the last few years, he does touchdowns and what we saw on Sunday was him playing within the offense him manipulating defenders him the rolling to where the ball is supposed to go instead of forcing it and The direction of aim, needy wide receiver. Remember it was week three week three Baker Mayfield celebrating a touchdown against Washington and he's GonNa walk off consoling Odell because he didn't get his look. He didn't get touch. So I think her baker and for this offense as a whole knowing their identity and their strengths, it's actually going to serve them better down the road that Oh does not they're not clouding Baker Mayfield's judgment on where he throws the football. Now. Marcus were yelled and screamed about this earlier today. I'M NOT GONNA ask you to repeat all of that but I will ask you do you think there is something to a quarterback? No longer feeling like he's got one guy I wanna go I wanna get him in there. He's a spectacular player. Do you believe the browns play well the rest of the season without him? Time Number One wide receiver signed with a team not to get the ball. The second thing is, how is this Ob Day? Fall. May throw the ball to the open man secondly, chemists the fast make sure you draw plays the throat foot Baker Mayfield or throw the ball to the overman. It's LBJ fall that Baker Mayfield. Tries to force the ball who has the damn ball in hand every play. I? mean. This is crazy. It is easy and not not a better team without Odell. Beckham June I have to leave it there. It's an argument that has raged morning and it's not going away. Meanwhile, there's no argument about this. Tom has been terrific his former team not so much. Are we seeing the answer to the longest standing question in football? That that coming up get. Up. ESPN. We've got the poll question up on Espn Greenie on twitter whose the best team in the NFC Castro vote we'll check in as the hour continues meanwhile. DAK PRESCOTT US out Zeke. Elliott is struggling Jerry Jones may be getting itchy. Where do the cowboys go from here? We'll talk about it get up on ESPN. Don't forget vote on election day November third for more information visit I am of voter dot com. We are back on get up and if you're just joining us, here's a look at what happened on Monday night football last night, which is it. So Fi stadium for the first time ever, and it featured that man Aaron Donald Against Nick Foles and the bears offense, and candidly that's not a fair fight. There's one of four sacks for the rams defense. Last night came with the rams up ten three in the second quarter and here comes another just a few plays later, and this one is the former bear. Leonard Floyd. He laughs last last last, he had two of the sex last night for the rams third quarter bears down seventeen three trying desperately to get something going. Nothing doing that's foles. This is picked by Taylor rap foles with two interceptions on the night bears wouldn't score and offensive touchdown. Ryan's win it by score of twenty four to ten both teams five into but they feel very different. Meanwhile on the other end of the cowboys were two and five, they wound up four and twelve in two, thousand fifteen, which is the last time they started with this record they wanted to taking. Zeke Elliott with the fourth pick that year meanwhile, the cowboy defense is allow two hundred and forty three points. That is the most through seven games in franchise history, which is a record that has stood since their inaugural season in one, thousand, nine, hundred sixty but the offense has been terrible to sixteen turnovers most in the NFL. So in general, this is a complete mess. Here's Stephen Jones right now on the state of the state. I know we've got the right guy for the job and you know it's a work in progress I know our fans frustrated We certainly understand the criticism come our way. During are big believers and sick and with the staff and you know we've got to give them their opportunity to work with these guys and continued. Employment what they're trying to get accomplished. Okay. So there was something we really wanted to get in today. We've had a lot of conversation here the last two days with former NFL players who were disappointed with the way the cowboys did not rally to the defense of their quarterback Andy. Dalton when he got cheap shot hit on Sunday but Greg mcelroy I, know there's something else that is on your mind as you watch that play. Yeah I had a real problem with the head naturally and I've also had a real big problem with the lack of attention we've paid to Jon Bostick and the fact that this hit was absolutely inexcusable and if this would have happened. Tom Brady or drew brees or Patrick Mahomes. What would the narrative around an event? There would have been people in the media calling for Jon Bostick to get the volunteers perfect treatment get kicked out of the League instead the conversation centered around. Oh well, the cowboys don't show fight the cowboys don't show metal to cowboys aren't a team no the focus should be on the fact that. John Boston the fact that he won't be suspended is absolutely laughable the ME I. Hope the League steps in because it's a double standard right now, I know anti downs a backup quarterback, but he should have the same protections afforded him as some of the best players in the league especially when he gives himself up with the feet per slide, it's Ragu I know it's difficult to gauge. Intent, but you play defense in the NFL for a long time was that a dirty play? was a dirty play. And it was. It was ridiculous like every defense the player in the League know now gee, that you don't do that when when a quarterback is slide and not only that win for the head and Neck area like you could tell me look I'm a big proponent of the game move fast. But we know the separation between hits that unintentional hits that are intentional and the thing that Piss me also bad about what Boston did he act like he didn't understand what? Just transpired like that was the part for me. It's G. G Greg is absolutely right like this this. This should be a suspension, one, hundred percent like, and then you look at intent we've all had these conversations about these type of plays in the league. We all see players pulling up every Sunday in every game with with the intention that quarterbacks were slide but he him in particular he was GonNa get a hit on ended down went into don't and saw him coming. It's ridiculous man and then I think that that plays along into what we were talking about how furious the guys around indulge should be in the reaction. So it's two boys to it, and then might McCarthy sand where he's saying Boston knew what he was doing. It should be suspended. You know what? Dan Glaviano the understanding I saw yesterday from the reporting is that the expectation is they will be no suspension from. Boston. Is there anything further you've heard in general? The league will look at the ejection as a suspension first of all right. So an additional suspension would be multiple game. So if they decide and again I'm not arguing one way or the other if they decide that it's not worth of multiple game suspension then we've seen in the past where they will say he. was ejected that services suspension and they'll find the heck out of him. Okay. So that thought, Marcus, let me just I'm not trying to defend anything I'm saying when I asked Ryan Clark question yesterday he said that a lot of times defensive players are trying to for lack of a better word buzzed the tower trying to right over the top to make sure that the players slides and that sometimes maybe sometimes accidentally you wind up hitting him in the head I'm just telling you that's what one of the things that was said yesterday you're not buying it. Completely, disagree with artsy like this is the new league RC played in the League where you try to. Try to get a hit on the quarterback, but they like Gee, we had this conversation with Montas perfect. I if you don't adapt to the new rules in the NFL, you're not going to last long the defender everybody knows in the League. Now, when a quarterback is giving himself up the tricky was or when a quarterback is on the sideline whether you know if he's going to go out of bounds or not and usually I air. On the side of the defenders alive because the quarterbacks can turn it in or even drop a show that we've seen that happen but this particular situation now you avoid the hit like his guys in the League aboard. Miss It. Every Sunday is guys avoiding to here. Bostick knew what he was doing. You're not going to get low with a quarterback sliding feet first unless you intend on hitting him buzzing this, the same league Iraq played in. Fairness I didn't want to put words in his mouth but that was essentially what he said to me yesterday Greg I'm glad we got that in I know that was something you wanted to mention I hadn't heard much about it and I'm glad that we got it in here. Meanwhile, it is time to go on the clock. That's all our guys in opportunity to talk about different issues around the national football. League and Marc Spears I'm starting with you. So forty five seconds on the clock for the big swag Google right now marcus who's the MVP of the National Football League. It's Tom Brady and all we trend towards a forty Brio quarterback winning MVP g will he be two oldest VP? Will. But right now brady is eighteen eighteen thousand dollars, four biggs he's printed towards forty, three, hundred yards. Passing imported down and now fixed on the season. The team right now is five and two at this point last year they were two and five and they play with the best field position and we know that James was throwing in the Sepsis in this team was always backed up in negative yardage Tom Brady right now, all of the Russell Wilson salt all air assault rightfully. So but don't forget TB twelve and Tampa is firmly in the MVP conversation based on the way he's playing. For one it's is already the oldest MVP wanted a few years ago so he would be expanding. Your record let's put a pin in this conversation. I WANNA come back to that because I think there's a lot there meantime Jeff is next Joe Borough through for over four hundred yards against Cleveland Jeff One is impressed you most about the number one pick in the draft forty five seconds ago. His consistency listen I I took a shot and he was talking about how Paul and he was fees I said I made a comment rookie should be seen not her with this guy has impressed me right I? mean. He's had by three hundred yard games I. Think he's giving his team the lead in the fourth quarter four of five, and here's the kicker for all. He's tough I. Mean this kid is taking shots. Now he's getting hit the sitting I'm sitting back and Clean pockets every Sunday and just feel like he's getting miles geared almost broke his back last week and he still getting up and pushing his team forward. I have been so impressed with just bitter nasty. He has shown the attitude issue. You can tell this entire team has rallied around him. It has been impressive I'll put a little respect on his name to the lowest shot early he he's made a believer in this early part of the season I like it. Yeah, he. Look as good as Baker Mayfield was the other day I thought the best quarterback on the field was Joe Borough speaking grow number one picking this past NFL draft Justin fields competing with Trevor Lawrence to be the number one pick in next year's draft Greg forty-five seconds can fields did he fields closed the gap on Lawrence with his first game on Saturday? Well with the way, Trevor Lawrence has played the first weeks of the season. You felt like that gap had never been bigger he'd been in-command been accurate. Guess what Justin fields in the big ten, their triumphant return this past Saturday reminded you. This might actually be a two horse race at the top of the 2021 NFL draft. Just fields goes out is remarkably efficient. These twenty, twenty, one, the big ten record in the process against Minnesota against the Nebraska team that is actually somewhat decent. So I am really impressed by what I saw. There's two things I wanted to see from justin fields one willie anticipate throws and to really throw the. Ball with more conviction and more often on time he did both on Saturday. That's a sign of things to come going to be a fascinating race for next year. Be An interesting one to watch. We'll get Mellon mcshea on that as we continue guys. Thank you. Sit Kite. We're going much to do be go right now let's get up and go through some of the other news, and of course, tonight is game six of the World Series Tony Console and we'll take the ball with A. Chance to pick the dodgers to a championship, Tampa Bay will have lakes Snell trying to keep the series alive for possible game seven elsewhere number ten, Florida resumed meetings and practices yesterday for the first time in two weeks after thirty players and coaches tested positive for Kovin causing the postponement of two of their games the gators are scheduled to host. Missouri on. Saturday and number nine, Wisconsin might be down to its fourth string quarterback Saturday at Nebraska, the starter pack cone had foot surgery backup. Grand Met's who played really well Saturday and third stringer chase wolf both reportedly testing positive for covert. So that is definitely one to keep an eye on and we hope we'll keep an eye on this on Halloween. We just talked about Justin fields. You will see him number three Ohio state going to college to take on number eighteen penn state in a battle of powered offenses led by these star quarterbacks big ten matchup Saturday seven, thirty eastern at beaver stadium on ABC and on the ESPN. Meanwhile, we have much more to do I wanna go back to Brady. Is he proving that he's more valuable than his former coach was we'll talk about that and more as we get up with you on ESPN. We continue on get up we're with you commercial free for the next fifteen minutes. That is when I take will come your way and those guys are going to be plenty busy today. Here's what's coming your way at the top of the Hour I take should jerry. Change head coaches again Maxon Stephen. A. Will debate that and more. They're now fourteen minutes away here on ESPN. We're with you until then commercial free. Meanwhile, our next MLS matches the Portland Timbers looking to finish atop the standings with two weeks left in the regular season they'll square off against the La Galaxy at Providence Park tomorrow night ten eastern on ESPN ESPN deport this and the ESPN APP now to this this. Year's rookie quarterback class is shaping up to be something special. The first overall Pick Joe Borough. We were just talking about him putting up crazy numbers for Cincinnati has the most attempts and completions through seven games of all time. so He's been very impressive despite the fact that his team hasn't won a lot of games in La just in Herbert putting up big stats as well. Throwing for over fifteen hundred yards this year. Only Cam Newton through for more passing yards and a first five games, but he hasn't been winning a lot to tongue by low perhaps the most hype if all the prospects will make his much-anticipated debut this weekend for the dolphins, they will start against the rams and I think there's a point that should be made here and I'll make this a change. My mind for the day. Here's what I think because you just. Heard me say Joe Borough playing great but they haven't won Games Justin Herbert playing going toe to toe with some of the best quarterbacks in sport including Brady and Mahomes but they don't win the games all that is fine. No one's criticizing them to is taking over a team that suddenly finds itself very much in the hunt to win the AFC east and they bench a very hot quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick to do it. To my opinion is this there is more pressure on a Tonga I load play well, the rest of the season. Then there is Joe Bureau and Justin Herbert combined because there are no moral victories for a team in the thick of a race and they bring the guys in and see if anyone wants to change my mind let me see I'm looking Jeff's face Do you WANNA change my mind on that? Jeff? Saturday. Heck Yeah I want to change your mind. Love. I. Mean it's it's the right across the playoff. They're this they're that. Here's the truth of the truth of it. This is a feel good story right now right comes back last week for the first time. Does this first two passes this guy off his career was almost ended with the hip injury. The dolphins are still rebuilding is still moving forward they are playing well as a football team. But make no no, no no great expectations in this team. In my opinion, they WANNA get their guy they want to get their franchise started now continue on with Fitzpatrick knowing you're gonNA make a move if you felt like he had shown you in practice that he's improving he's ready for the game. You know he's GonNa make a he's a rookie. Team stands. So I think what you're allowing is your allowing everyone else's perception from the dolphins perspective. They have a long term view of what to do. You can't learn by watching it does not work. This a different situation than what the chiefs had with Alex Smith years ago because they were GonNa, go the playoffs I still don't think the dolphins make it there. I don't think sitting fitzpatrick puts undue necessary pressure on to I. Think this guys come in fulfill his role and tried to get better like these other young quarterbacks have shown I am surprised to hear you say that Jeff to use your words I wondering if you're not high because you're. Now. If you're an offensive Lineman, a veteran in that locker room you want them playing the kid because they might be able to win championships two years from now or you want them plane the guy who's going to win football games this year when I'm three and three in a division where I might wind up winning. Yeah Listen Office of line play in great brother like like. They understand Fitzpatrick has played out of his mind fully agree with that but we all know what fitzpatrick usually does. He has six or seven games where you're wild and they'll have six or seven games where you're like man, we can't. We can't buy a win here I think they're looking for consistency, and again, we the problem with to is you haven't seen anything they haven't brought him in. They have to bring him in. So you can at least see what you have and get this kid built up because we don't know he may give you a better chance to win the playoffs this year if what they're seeing in practice translate to the Game Field I. Agree which is why I? Think there's more pressure on him than there is on the other quarterbacks. Greg. Tell Jefferies. Hi. You're. To use your word. I seriously because he is more pressure is the bigger the shoes bit. You mentioned demand I mean Ryan Fitzpatrick playing out of his mind and by the way the team is playing hard four Ryan Fitzpatrick. So to win over the veterans and to do all these other things if things started to go a little sideways, that's going to be really difficult onto and difficult on the staff does a halo we're planning for the future. So I think greenies totally onto this because the expectations low for the chargers and for the Bengals this year is essentially nonexistent. Was Non existent for the dolphins, but they've clearly found themselves the last few weeks at the season. We just cheered Joe Borough for throwing for four hundred yards and a loss. We've been cheering Justin Herbert for making games out of it when they played against the best teams in the NFL there's GonNa be no cheering if the Dolphin start losing games what I think we'll leave it there for the moment will move it forward next up is our second poll question of the day it was similar to the first. We did the AFC earlier now. We've put up the NFC who you got for best team in the NFC and I'll tell you I put this up yesterday before the Monday night game, which would explain why the bears are there and the rams are not. So let me ask you guys your opinions as we take a look at this here who is up I on our let's go to Graziano I I'm sorry mcelroy is first mcelroy who you got for best team in the NFC. Ten buccaneers Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback of all time when he's protected, he's almost impossible to beat right now they're taking great care of the football is fifteen to one turnover touchdown to interception ratio. Since the second game of the season, he's completely dialed in. So it's Tampa, bay. They're playing great on defense to and the way they're protecting a man I don't see anyone slowing them down unless they can get pressure on Tom Brady Graziano. Best, team. In the NFC took me a while to come around but I'm GONNA say the buccaneers to Greg is right. They're playing defense in the league where maybe three or four teams are playing any defense and their offenses as we saw Sundays operating at a high level I don't know how he's doing it i. don't know how long it's going to keep doing it but I say Tom Brady, and the buccaneers have the best team in the NFC right now Jeff. Buccaneers I I started the season with the buccaneers I'm not changing. Now Listen Todd Bowles in this defense will continue to get better. It will continue to be more impressive as the season goes on. Devon White Kid is playing out of his mind speed on the defense and then you flip it over offensively they said best best pressure percentage in the League offensive line. Wise you protect. Tom. Brady. He's GonNa Carve you up the bucket got gotta be the number one team in the NFC. Right now do we have any disagreement from the big swag who Marcus Not a change Gee, this is the most complete team. I would say in the NFL when you talk about how dynamic they are on both sides of the ball and listen what they did. What they did the Rogers is no small feat. What they did to the Green Bay packers defensively is not a small feet at all and we look at Tom Brady. We knew at some point this offense was gonna come along and might I add that they just signed Antonio Brown? That's a added to this team that everybody will have they dealt with injuries to receiving core people are going to want to start is to say healthy. So they don't have to defend Antonio Brown who actually did sign his contract officially today. So it is unanimous here. Let's take a look at where the voting went on the poll again, it's a little. Closer there thirty nine percent like Tampa. We got some fans of Seattle. We got some fans in Green Bay the bears not getting a whole lot of love. Again, you can cast your vote. We'll keep that going through the radio show a little later today. Meanwhile, this weekend in the NFL is now officially over until, let's go through the winners and losers. Who is your biggest winner of week seven? Column Murray Man Look. This was a huge win against the division. And you look at the success he had down the stretch in the game obviously using his legs but baldy Andre Hopkins threw a touchdown. Kristen Kurt He created a lot of offense for this team that they needed and he outduel fall anticipate purposes. Russell Wilson. We know rush through three in the substance allowed to derive from the game. But Columbine had a really good game that was a huge win for them. Jeff. Who is your biggest winner? GotTa be Pittsburgh steelers listen beating the titans at titans place got jumped off to a big lead. The Titans back in the game defense stood up again again if Rothlisberger doesn't turn the ball over this game and even close, it shows you how dominant defense is again eight and three last year when they scored ten points or more, but rather give you more than ten points got to be. The steelers, how the other side Grazziano who's the biggest loser weekend one with to Shawn Watson because I think this loss to the packers, Sunday dropped them to one six. I think an increased the likelihood that one or more of his receivers could get traded at the trade deadline, which is a week from today. We'll see what happens. We could be sitting here in a week saying he dodged one but I think at one and six more likely they start shipping guys out and keeping them in Houston and finally Greg who was your biggest loser that we can? It's gotTa be Cam Newton it was an abysmal performance by far the most inaccurate starting quarterback performance of the NFL weekend. It was all over the place. It didn't make good decisions and he admitted he said if I continue to play the way I'm playing right now the switch to jared sit in that they made late in the game is going to become permanent. So he's got to pick it up and pick it up quick for the Patriots to get back on track. That's an interesting WANNA. Let me bring it back Markus to you for a moment because if you look at how well Brady is playing, just called him the MVP of the league this year and you look at the struggles in New England, where they are two and four, and they look every bit of that. Do you believe that we are starting to see the answer to the long ask question? Was it really brady or was it really bill all those years in new? No I mean it's convenient g to say that, but we also have to take into account of the things that have transpired Lou Tom Brady. We all lamented and I've been the one to say it's been more Tom Brady because the players have to actually execute the game plan. But if you look at the things that transpired in New England outside of Tom Brady, it wasn't setup for this team to have a lot of success if cam wasn't going to be Superman and we've seen now for the past two outings that. Camera struggling and his offense can't do anything and on the other side of the ball, all of the opt outs in New England, and then you go to the antithesis threat with Tom Brady with all the talent in the world and arguably the best defense in the league because they loo-. Tampa's team right now is head and shoulders above most teams in the NFL. So I'm not going to put this indictment of bill belichick he'll recalibrate. But right now it's a personnel issue in New England more so than it is coaching issue. I want to leave that there for the moment because I'm being told that we have some sound that we want to hear Jerry Jones owner of the Dallas cowboys, his regular weekly radio interview when he was talking about leadership in the locker room, let's hear it. I think installer found an abacus curse in. Its eyes are just very isolated can. Keep Spinning. Really scary missing out on GEICO's easy to use mobile APP. You can manage your vehicle policy whenever lehrer. Looks play with another doll. We can just bury it deep in the ground. gyco download the industry-leading GEICO APP today. Long. I think install I found in the atticus curse in. Its eyes are just very life spike what does it keep spinning. A scary. Release Gary Missing. Out On. GEICO's easy to use mobile APP. You can manage your vaco policy whenever Larry. 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Sirius Xm with you and always have the latest college football info you need listen right now on the SIRIUSXM APP or online at siriusxm dot com slash listen ESPN U.. Wow Okay so there's A Jerry Jones I hear often marcus again, you played for that team. Know Him what is your reaction to what we just heard from? Jerry. This defense mechanism miss absolutely leadership void like you don't have to. We've been around this game a long time and I give Jerry credit for being around the team and having a pulse. It's a leadership void like what are we talking about? You got players talking about the coaches they have you got a coach call our players after not responding the right way during the game after Andy Dalton hit they not playing well. Let, alone have an opportunity to even look like they're invested into the game we got cornerbacks looking with is looking in the backfield rookies giving up Sundowns. Watching, the football team ain't GONNA win a lot of games this year they just beat the cowboys twenty five to three. It's a leadership boy. Let me go around the group curricula. You had real correct. Yeah Jerry Jerry. Lion himself here I mean listen you can look at it watch it however you WanNa from last week moving all the way forty before that was hurt I mean you're you're talking about this team doesn't have answers and no one stepping up and may and making plays when your best players Zeke Elliot, and those guys are part of the problem something's going on locker room somebody's gotTa. Grab a hold of this thing and rally around that starts with the head. Coach McCarthy's got to get this thing. It just hadn't happened. It is a leadership issue, Greg Super Quick Reaction Go? Where there is no leadership, there is no ownership and nobody has owned the problems of the cowboys so far. So there is a leadership issue I agree with the guy so I think Jerry's blinded to. Grazziano any reason to think that between now and the trade deadline we'll see anything interesting there. I think maybe a couple moves here and there but nothing major nothing high impact like Amari Cooper from a couple years ago they're stuck. The quarterback situation is what it is. Not GonNa get any better. They just have to hope that they can come together around Dalton or Nucci or whoever okay. We'll leave it there because we're out of time obviously, this conversation will continue on I take I can't wait to hear their reaction to it and you will coming up right now on ESPN. This class look haunted. Don't thinks. So what about those two creepy girls come stay with us? He's truly frightening. Missing Mana Guy goes great service with Geico, you get twenty, four, seven access to licensed agents a thank you creepy girls to see you're. GonNa Sleep in the car now. Switch today for twenty, four, seven access to licensed agents.

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"We've got soccer on ESPN coming your way today and tomorrow we've got the way for nations league group stage match between Germany and Switzerland today that's two thirty eastern on ESPN two. You can see it on the ESPN APP, and then tomorrow we have the match between Italy and the Netherlands top teams in league a group one two thirty eastern. On ESPN. Two and on the ESPN APP. So of soccer action coming your way the next couple of days that's what they call football. We call football football I'm getting lost in that thought but you know the point I'm making Dan. Grazziano was waiting for news to come out of the Tennessee yet `etuate. Tonight she'll nothing nothing I. Guess No news is good news because. As of now, against a long game is still on the supposed to play tonight the question is will there be any positive test. As soon as we get word, he will let you know we're coming to you live as from the seaport district appear seventeen brought to you by Heineken, and we are busy. Here we go. It's time to get up with. Monday night magic comeback we overtime if you went to sleep at twenty, two three, you missed all the fun we will start your there. Then the D. in big deed stands Ford devastated where the first place cowboys go from here we've got all the answers and Oct Insanity in the baseball bubbles highlights from a wild night in the march to a world series. All that and more on the way this hour of get up which starts right now it begins with our game with an night Monday night football saints, chargers, you have the quarterback drew brees against the young start in just in Herbert, just as start these been so good second quarter, these thirteen three third goal touchdown hunter Henry in the back of the. endzone Herbert. The first looking quarterback evert throw three touchdowns in the first half on Monday night chargers at twenty, two three. But in the fourth quarter, saints are working back at one to thirteen and then it's breeze and it's jared cook it's a forty one yard touchdown brees threw for three hundred, twenty, five yards on forty seven attempts we're tied at twenty under. Four minutes to go chargers third and ten at their own thirty six pervert. How does Mike Williams get behind the defense sixty four yards and a touchdown Williams five catches one hundred, nine, yards two scores chargers up twenty seven twenty minute fifty three to go first and ten Lost Territory Breath Alvin Kamara picking up the slack Michael Thomas not weighing suspended by. The team eight catches for tomorrow seventy, four yards at the big one with the great concentration they work into the red zone on the chargers nine breeze not on the field on third down tastes him hill is and he's into the end zone. The gamble pays off Saints tied the game at Twenty, seven fifteen seconds Herbert with a chance to be the hero. Looking for Williams what a night Williams had what this gach over Marshon Lattimore we'll give you another look pervert with throwing for two hundred, sixty, four yards and four touchdowns on the day. This one could easily have been the game winner because five seconds to go. Michael. Badgley his on he'd missed an extra point earlier. Here's a chance at redemption. It's up and it is always off the upright when they save football is a game of inches. This is what they mean and so we go to overtime saints get the ball first driving on a second fine. Gets breath latavius Murray's murray thirteen yards and a first down ultimately will lutts would kick a field goal saints up thirty to twenty seven. So the chargers get one last chance I told you that Mike Williams at one hundred, nine receiving yards. Well, he needed one hundred and ten because this is fourth in seven he needs to get to the fifty. He comes up one yard short look at the fifty yard line look at the football they never meet, and by that distance, the chargers fall thirty to twenty seven. The saints come all the way back and they get the win drew brees and company escape. We shouldn't shouldn't have had mount the come up we had to mount ord win this game. But. At the end of the day, these are these are growing experiences. These are learning experiences to have winds like this. You know where you really have to the fight to win you know just like we did last week to overcome fourteen point deficit tonight it's overcome seventeen point deficit. You know these are this is how you grows a team. This is how you become battle-tested. Longer. So. Someone explain this division to me the NFC south is up for grabs. The saints have looked okay at three and two the bucks are coming off a bad performance on a Thursday night. The panthers are supposed to be terrible and they've won three straight games without Christian McCaffrey and the Falcons winless in they fired their coach. So I need someone to clarify this division for me. Let me bring the crew in here who can do that for me and let us start with you marcus. Spears how do you explain this? Who is the best team in the NFC SOUTH SWAGGER? Tampa Bay buccaneers I believe they are the more complete team especially defensively, I've seen them do some tremendous things and yeah I know what happened against Chicago but we also every time we talk about the saints. About them not having Michael Thomas. Tom Brady has not had a healthy cast carrots assists this season started. So I'm interested to see what the Tampa Bay buccaneers look like offensively when everybody that's supposed to be out there is out there. Obviously, we know ours lost for the season but Cameron braiding. To do a fine job at tight in litter for net, it's been down. Ronald. Jones play will get the. Bears had one hundred over one hundred yards rushing when this unique gets together and the offense gland stops doing dumb things. Jensen self-inflicted penalties things like that I. Believe this team is the best team and they were more suited to make a deep playoff run in anybody else in the NFC. South. Champ who's the best team in that division? I agree buccaneers are and and and listen is even with Michael Thomas. Coming back for the saints I. Just think from the outside and Swaggie laid it out perfectly from a defensive perspective into Italian offense. The big concern is injuries right injuries and penalties have killed the Tampa Bay buccaneers they have to play better and play clean football. He made mention of Jensen's hit in Chicago game which was silly but ultimately that team as you look at, it will continue to get better my issue on the saints will be defensively. Can they stop you on the back end? You saw Herbert Karam up last night really had the chance really should have won the game and Didn't give give the Saints Credit for winning that game but coming back from fourteen and seventeen continue things is going to be tough for them to keep going. All right. So the saints find a way to win the next thing I want to do in Greg I, want you to get the first crack on this one. Can we put Ryan Clark's tweet up please because our tweeted something last night while watching this came I'm told we'll have it in just a moment but as he was watching Justin Herbert who has been so impressive in think about what? Herbert has done Herbert has gone up in the four games that he has started against legends against mahomes ingredient. Breeze Ryan Clark tweeted y'all don't jump on me but did the Miami Dolphins draft the wrong guy remember they took to one spot for Justice Herbert Greg mcelroy as you have watched Justin Herbert in these first four star of his NFL. What do you see? He's been outstanding and shockingly to be honest with you because if you watch him really over the course of his career at Oregon, he really didn't throw the ball with a lot of consistency and accuracy. Now, he did make spectacular place and pulled off spectacular throws but the down in down out efficiency that we've seen from him already just in the very beginning of his NFL career is unlike anything we ever witnessed with him at the college level. So I would actually argue the state we never saw this version. I was actually surprised that he was drafted and was held in such high regard as he was going six overall I thought Oh man I'm a little worried about that but he is not only done extremely well driving the ball down the field, but he uses athleticism as well. So he has been a breath of fresh air, but we haven't seen to a young man. Let's not start by saying the dolphins messed up. We don't even know what that guy is at this point, but I'll tell you what man. Herbert has been so much better than I anticipated even everyone that covered the college game we're on a group message saying it last night like who is this guy and why didn't he play for Oregon the last year so pretty amazing to see what he's done in a pretty quick period of time. Mean you were talking about the draft leading up to it like crazy and there was a lot of people who thought that Justin Herbert might be who really fell for. Exactly. The reasons mcelroy is talking about Google what have you seen from Herbert through four games? Carbon balling out of his mind, and he's exactly what this charges team needs because. The charges have some some weapons. Now, Keenan Allen obviously being lost in that game could have made a difference as well as we got down the stretch Mike Williams we saw his athleticism hunter Henry when you couple athletic quarterback that's throwing the ball and putting it in spots like that extending plays with this unit, they can have a lot of success and remember this to g they lost Austin Nectar and Austin Nagler. was playing as well as any back in the league at this point. So they're doing this would justin herb of figuring out. He was going to start three three weeks ago while the game was happening and he's also been put in a position against every good team in the lead to try to win game it's super impressive but I know yesterday was RC birthday he probably was on that. Yak. So he sent that. Old Tour if it's the right decision for the. He was on that yet hold that thought woman because it has been talking Dan Glaviano is feverishly motioning towards me that he has news we have breaking news in Dan what is it all tests clear for the Tennessee Titans this morning. So tonight's game against Buffalo is on Tuesday night football is ago in Tennessee we'll see how many titans can answer the bell, but there will be again okay that that's really important obviously, and it came a little later this morning this news than we usually do is there any I explain that any reason why we that might have had this matter? It doesn't matter as long as long as long as a first of all everybody's healthier now right? Good but yes, no further postponements or cancellations of games this week. Okay. There's no positive for the titans they will go through this week they would play the buffalo bills tonight we will see how that winds up. The latest news have been waiting for all morning meanwhile, take a quick break. We have much more football as we continue today, can the cowboys win their division with Dalton instead of Dak Stephen, a Smith we'll be here he will answer that question and then four championships to go along with four MVP's. I'll tell you why Lebron James has now carved the space in a very exclusive club that's on the way as we get up with you on ESPN. Back on get a Baseball Game One lcs braves, dodgers eleven, thousand fans at Globe Life Field and the braves are ready to go and Max free was pitching himself into and out of jams. Bottom of one braves up one nothing to onto out for the dodgers and he gets will Smith Swing. So freed out of one jam bottom of to to to mookie Betts, he's out of another jam as beds flies out. Bottom of five still one nothing braves this time nobody on Bass and Keith. Hernandez says, you're not getting out of this. I am same that one tied at one breaks braves pitching streak of twenty three consecutive scoreless innings. Now. Here's your ballgame top nine still tied at one excuse me Blake training in the nine for the dodgers not Kenley. Jansen. Again, a tie ballgame Austin Riley on ties it that one is crushed highly is fired up and the braves take a two one league but wait they're not done Marcelo Suna knocked in Iran with a base three one there's two outs, Jake McGee doing the pitching and not well, Ozzy Albee's. Knocks that one the left center a two run shot breeze poured onto the night and they take game one by final score of five to one as we bring mark to share a into the conversation with us here and so the dodgers now a one nothing they trail one game to none and they send Clayton Kershaw to the mound this evening. Let's talk about the pressure that is on the dodgers legendary ace. Greenie stop me if you've heard this before this is the most important starbucks Clayton Kershaw as. We say every postseason but the fact of the matter is he's a first ballot hall of Famer. He's been one of the most dominant starting pitchers of the last decade, but it doesn't have a world series ring and and I think the dodgers have the team to go all the way this year. But Clayton Kershaw. needs to be really good in this start tonight against the braves so far the playoffs. Fourteen innings pitched nineteen strikeouts only three earned runs. So kershaw has been great so far the postseason, but he needs to be equally as good against this really really potent braise offense absolutely, and the braves offense has been one thing in the meantime when they give up a run, it's it's front page news the braves have been pitching out of their minds in this postseason of the dodgers in some trouble here. Well I think we should talk tomorrow because if the dodgers get down to the question will be, how exactly do they line up their starting pitching they have much deeper starting pitching in the braves. So I'll say this if the braves would have gone down to, I think the series would be over if the dodgers go down to because of how good they are deep their starting pitching us I think they can get back in the series. Of course, they still want to win the game tonight. We'll see what happens with that while to the American League we go and we've got the raise taking on the Astros, and this has game number two of this series being played in San Diego, and here's a huge moment very first inning lance mccullers junior is pitching G. Man Choi with two outs and a runner at first that should be a routine play Altoona the throw Gory Al can't make the scoop they give the error to Al Tuesday. So instead of the intervening being over, there are two runners on you know what that means fam that's Manuel Margot. Driving the knuckle curve to center for three run shot altitude and. I can't believe mistake at cost their team three on earned runs, and there is frustration top to margot was really the hero in this game. In every conceivable way, the Astros have second and third to George. Springer at the plate this one is in foul territory Margot was drifting. He's never played right field in this ballpark. Never in his career and look at a make that catching hang on as he takes the tumble. So he hits the home run and then he makes the play here again with second and third and to ask so a great night for Manuel, Margot top nine, four, one raise springer up with the bases loaded and nobody out. So they've got a chance to get right back in it, but he hits into a double play. So it's four to two and then three batters later they're loaded again for Alex Bregman and he's got a chance and he gets some of it but not. Grays hold on excuse me raise pulled on and they went by score of forty to afford to. So you know the raise a team mark to share the best record in the American league all year long, and here they are two wins away from the world series. How are they doing it? They're doing it because the entire organization has bought into the philosophy here at the raise and it's kind of that next man up and whoever's putting the game expects to perform look at Manuel Margot. Throwaway trade with the San Diego padres not many people know about this guy hits a huge three run home run. You saw that wonderful play in right field he's an incredible defender. Let's talk about the raise defense. These guys are position. So well, every single play the Astros yesterday hit eleven balls hard a lot of them could have been hits. You saw the double play by springer perfect positioning, and then the last play the game basis loaded Alex Bregman rocket to right center. Off The bat I'm saying that ball's a double but note Kevin Cure Myers in perfect position. That's an organization that knows exactly what they're doing. And Right now, there are two wins away from the World Series Marcia Sheriff. Thank you. We will see you tomorrow as we continue covering the baseball. Meanwhile, we had very sad news yesterday baseball losing another Legend Hall of Famer. Joe Morgan. Good. Show became a legendary Sunday night baseball broadcaster. He was a key member of the Cincinnati reds famed big red machine the best baseball team I ever saw nine seventy-five was Joe. Morgan's greatest season. He won the first of his back toback MVP's drove in the winning run in the ninth inning of game seven of the world series. He was the best player in baseball that year he led all of baseball in wins above replacement during the seventies the only. Other primary infielder lead the game in war over a decade since nineteen fifty was Alex Rodriguez in the two thousand and on top of his hall of fame career on the Field Morgan spent twenty one years as part of ESPN's Sunday night baseball broadcast team from Nineteen Ninety two, twenty, ten he was an all time. Great Ball player. He was a friend to a lot of us here at ESPN Joe Morgan was seventy seven years old. We'll be right back. Hey I'm andy. I'm still not famous but you might remember that I started Harry's because I was tired of overpaying for razors. It always felt like big brands were taking advantage of us every time they improve something back. Then prices seemed to go up at Harry's we take a different approach today. I'm proud to introduce our sharpest blades ever available at the same price before as low as two dollars each there are new sharper version of our German engineered blades guys who shave four days a week of told us that with our new. 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The question is how much respect that the king deserved we'll talk about that with Stephen A. in just a moment speaking of Stephen a what a day on I take today how about this cast list Russell, Wilson Rajon Rondo Ti and Kareem all joining Stephen a Max and molly coming up top of the next hour right here on ESPN. brought the highest low, even kill stand the moment. What's left right now? Win To windfall got to be better going six. Calls a series. Once again as an. To, win himself. Rajon Rondo putting out of show. This game as completely got away from Miami This Story Twenty Twenty Nba championship belongs the Los Angeles Lakers organization with respect Laker, nation won't they respect? I. Want My damn respect to. Presenting the case for Lebron. James for induction to the all time. Mount Rushmore of basketball history. He is now the fourth member of the four and four club, which is the most prestigious group in the game four titles four. MVP's bill. Russell. Kareem. abdul-jabbar Michael Jordan, and now Lebron. The bronner's also scored the most postseason points in the game's history by a wide margin almost fifteen hundred more than Jordan who is second only to players have appeared in the NBA finals more than the bronze ten times. They are Bill Russell with twelve and Sam Jones with eleven but Lebron has carried his teams on a level that no one ever had before. He's led them in scoring rebounding in assists seven times in the playoffs. Larry Bird and Tim Duncan our next with twenty one. Lebron also the only player ever to lead both teams in points assists rebounds and steals in any playoff series. He did that in the finals in two thousand, sixteen against a team won seventy, three games. The following year he became the only player ever to average triple double in the finals. Overall, he's third all time in points he's eighth in assists he's. Thirteenth and steals he led the city of Cleveland to its championship anything in more than half a century and then resurrected the legendary. Lakers. Pretty much all by himself and oh by the way, he doesn't appear to be anywhere close to finish. So right now he is among the four greatest players ever to live in some time that list might just get smaller. That's what I think. I know there's been a lot of this kind of conversation out there. No one loves doing that more than Marcus does and the great. Even a Smith is here half an hour away from I take Stephen A. I've been waiting all week to ask you this question is I have not had a chance to see you in your mind. What does Lebron's fourth championship the other night mean to his historical legacy in the game of basketball. Well I mean the definitely augments it to some degree. But as far as I was concerned, he was on my Mount Rushmore before he won this championship. He's one of the top four players all time I think he's one of the top three players of all time we in inevitably, we must keep Bill Russell on there because he's an eleven time champion. But when you look at Kareem Abdul, Jabbar and illustrious career that he's had, he definitely has to be top three and then I look at Lebron James or the multifaceted talent that he is what he brings to the table I have him number two all time behind Michael Jordan I've had them that way for a while it existed before he won this championship. Now but I got news for you Greenie newsflash because you may not know this. I don't know if you know this do you realize that in the Lebron James Camp? You have insulted him. You have excoriated him that somehow some way you're not showing him the difference in appreciation that he deserves because if he is not number one overall all time than it is an insult to his name, his reputation as family main and everything in between God forbid that we have them on a mount. Rushmore of all of basketball top three all time top for all time in my estimation top two all time he still said it best. Damn it I want my respect which says to me that he will. Not Be satisfied unless he is universally recognized as number one all time to go. But I'm here to tell you right now than I, sorry I got bad news for Lebron James Consider yourself disrespected because you will never be my number one he will be number two but not my number one it will never be universal because as long as I'm living and breathing I've got breadth of my body and I got a voice and I got vocal chords you will hear me say, Lebron, James is no Michael Jordan. So. There's nothing he can do that was going to be my next question. There's nothing you can see him doing not gets to six nothing. How come you know why do you know what? I tell you what I apologize. There's one thing he can do. Erase the six NBA finals losses? That simple. About losing in it but Marcus. Swagger feeling is ready to jump ahead swagger. What do you think? This is a perfect example when you fighting the breeze, that's all this is I mean when when you get statements like I never, that's the type of statements happened in divorces and when people have bad breakup and when things are going and some of your strong stands statement is starting to have holes in it. I've been screaming Lord Brunner's the greatest of all time long before is four championship and there's really not based on all of the album. He was a kill law and he did all of this Lebron. James has won four championships. Now he's been the cabinet of those championships and those teams fall off a cliff. When he leaves, there is no player that has effected or influence the team that he's been all more. Than Lebron James. has during his tenure in the NBA and let's let's let's also have another conversation about longevity. Does that not matter this being in the finals this much. Does in year seven known leading the team. They couldn't make the playoffs before you got there. That matter does not standing up in Cleveland going back in the face of everything they disemboweled about you and winning the championship. They're not matter like Lebron James has done more than anybody else in this league in the history of this league while they comes to compound in pressure having success and looking people in the face that said, he couldn't do it and getting it done. That's. Literally, he's done his entire career. Well. First of all is a couple of things. Let's throw out of. Let's throw out numerous facts. Number one I'm older than you number two I covered the NBA number three Lebron James let's. Let's analyze and dissect this Michael Jordan still having played a short career coming into the League, at age twenty one after three years in college whereas Lebron came in the. League two three years early at age eighteen in one, thousand, nine hundred and obviously did not go to college. So Michael Jordan had you can talk about the the the body of work on the NBA, level? Fair, enough because Lebron James didn't endure three years of college and he certainly didn't play in the same era that Michael Jordan played then they had to. Put in new rules the Jordan rules to stop Michael Jordan. We know how physical the game of the NBA was. We know how now you can get thrown out of the game for having bad breath crying out loud Scott and they'll tissue. So I'm not talking about the players I'm talking about the era that's number one. Then we get into the individuals superlatives. And we talk about a guy. Michael Jordan. He's a ten times scoring champion Lebron James has one. He's got six weeks. Lebron. Has Four. He's a nine time. All defensive player Lebron has fought when you take from an individual perspective Lebron James is universally respected. Michael Jordan was universally feared there is a different a you know that difference because you being Stella professional athletes. And the collegiate athlete that you notice I'm being calm Marcus Spears because I didn't bring up how awful your Lsu team look this past weekend I was talking about before this because last year they were the reigning national champions but my God, how awful the Lsu Tigers defense they should be ashamed to wear the uniform but I'm going to be nice and I'm GonNa leave it at that in the To. Lsu You. 'cause I picked allow. Totally minister. Just say that I did I just say I give to you don't it to me. Okay. I said I'll give it to you in the end. What it comes down to is this you look at Michael Jordan and the everybody lives. I've gotten into this argument with Isaiah Thomas on numerous occasions. It absolutely disgusts me that guys ignored the errors the Ariza so important because it was so Physical and the way that when the what they were allowed to get away with in doing get you defensively and what have you Michael Jordan endured that all in essentially the last six seasons he completed in the NBA it during those errors, he was a champion took over ninety four to ninety, four, ninety, five off came back that seventeen games and ninety, five, ninety, six, the last six. Listed that he did Chicago he wanted championship. Meanwhile, we lamented that soft tissue continental tissue conference that Lebron was playing when he joined D. Wade and boss in Miami and was in the Eastern Conference but I eleven years. Just have a difference of opinion. Yes May I ask my mentor a question please, yes yes. Sir. So should we never compare Eras Dan? Should we always say this was the greatest guy in this era because I hear all of this talk about a bad man in air rogers and I hear Patrick Mahomes is the best we've ever seen going to end up the grays alter should we never compare because you? Can't hit quarterbacks like you used to. You can't put pressure on them like you're used to. They don't play the same violent game that I play when I was in the League or even before that Stephen. So should we stop having the conversation about the greatest of all time basketball because the is differ in I I sit back and I yield to the gentlemen in New York Okay. Well, the answer to that question is in most instances you should, but there are exceptions where you can literally watch the two individuals the impact that they have particularly against opponents what they bring to the table. You can deduce from that what it's all about when you consider the era of the toughness of the era, the fact that Jordan was three inches shorter and about thirty to forty pounds lighter. But even John Salley and the bad boy pisses was talking about how they had to go at you because he's not human, you have to take him before. He takes off the aerial assault that he brought to the game, the Jay how he's performed in the clutch, the championships, the list goes on and on there is no disrespect to Lebron James by saying you're on the Mount Rushmore of all basketball I haven't talked to in the history of the game that started in nineteen forty six and changed his name to the NBA Nineteen fifty whether it seventy two, seventy, four years I can only think of one player that I believe it's better than Lebron James and his world deaths a damn insult not somebody asked that question. Insult to say to. naismith invented the game of basketball. It was Lebron James that he envisioned taking it to the next level. At, the actually you're wrong actually you're all it was me is Steven Naismith. Somebody. I Stephen and company what a guest list have coming up today including Kareem abdul-jabbar and also wasn't great to see Stephen A.. Thank you very much, very quick break while we have a lot more to do before. Then coming up what if I told you that former MVP could be on the trading block it sneaky big news and it's next. We are back on, get up with you commercial free for the next fourteen minutes, and then I take takes over with an incredible guest list today including Russell Wilson and Ti Kareem, abdul-jabbar, and Rajon Rondo their thirteen minutes away now here on espn meanwhile later today that UEFA nations league group stage match between Germany and Switzerland. IS COMING UP TWO THIRTY EASTERN ON ESPN two and the ESPN APP, huge match for both they trailed Spain and Ukraine in the league, a group four standings and the three points would be big. All right. Let's bring in swagger. WHAT DOES SWAG say? Do you know what I say I say Danny Jones Gangsta? G. Look at me today I'm already obese. So we just be Beastie I. Call you broke. Yes. You cry. This is not exactly how I meant for this to go take that and smoke it. Here we go. Marc Spears is going to explain to you what people really mean when they say things they say and swag would starts with Jimmy Garoppolo the forty nine quarterback Jimmy G. asked about his confidence after being benched on. Sunday. Here's what he said. My confidence is fine I that that doesn't change anything it's just on. You know. In a tough situation and they thought and it's no different for us. It's just Of is what it is and you gotta deal with it. Yeah. Come into work and. Just make the best of the situation that you're given. I mean, that's all you could really do. You can't worry about things you can't control and just. Starts with me I just got played better. All right. so that's what Jimmy G. said what does swag who said. Yo Confidence. These people gave me one, hundred, million dollars. I got a jacket on the coast ten thousand and every woman I've ever seen has told me the most handsome man in America. All the San Francisco Forty niners need be to do is hand the ball all successively enthroned to good asses a game and y'all go ashby as my confidence I, live in California I'm rich and looking and Y'all word about my confidence man please bitch is the least of my worries that that is my new favorite one because I agree wholeheartedly, I was thinking it as he was talking. Okay. Kyle burry. Asked about his new favourite target de'andre. Hopkins here's what Murray said. Throw, go ball up to. Especially I wanna be me and I didn't even if he's going to catch it You know he shows you talk Jay walk. You know he's he's about sharing, league you know and then you've got you just put the ball in their hands and they make place for you and you know I it makes my job a lot easier. All right. So that's what the quarterback said. WHAT DOES SWAG WHO said? You. Know I'm young and I'm a rookie but. And no say man and I know Bill Brown lost the job of Bill. You said this do. You you said this new to me this dude that I just throw them all up in the vicinity and ego. And they had to man as good as this quarterback community is and we all young and we thrive in the sun is sucks when you broke, appreciate him over my way. That's one hundred percent. Right is still the most astonishing move of recent NFL memory. Last one is eagles head coach Doug Peterson. He was asked about playing in the worst division and football here's what he said. If you guys were in any other division right now, you'd kind of be in the basement. But you're not in any division in the NFC east. Division yeah. I mean how do you view this right now? Because your team hasn't played very well but you still Listen I don't care about the rest of the League I care about the Philadelphia Eagles obviously our division or what are we still half game back look it's it is what it is. I'M GONNA pull out my inner bill belichick and say, I'm I'm focused on. Baltimore? That's what he said. What is Swagger said Right, and you're going to be focused on Baltimore because you're damn. So he got to worry about the risks of the teams, the visit and the best quarterback into visit just got ended. So that team got worse we the New Your Dad's ain't GonNa, win the game and ain't no telling what's going to happen with the watch the football team they try and figure out a quarterback carousel and they only got one. So I just don't know what else Doug beason what have to. Be Worried about as long as I can see, my quarterback is straight and don't have him throwing in the coverages with ten people are going one guy and then other people are wide open. We'll be fine I'm worried about Baltimore I worry about my division wheel win that as long as we can handle ball open fun every time may they may very well, and part of the reason is because that tie is GonNa wind up working out very well for the Eagles I never. Knew we had this earlier in the show today, Matt Ryan and the Falcons are winless this season the coach general manager just got fired this time the they're they're moving on. So what is the future of Ryan in? Atlanta owner Arthur blank had this very interesting take listen to this. Matt is haven't has the ability to play to very high level even at this age whether that's going to continue in autumn I'm not sure. I appreciate his willingness to consider doing that and and level of what he's played for for us for thirteen years which she'd been incredible So I I will have to say but then again, that's going to be decision at the end of the day that'll be part of it the up to the player in. Up to the coaching staff. That was interesting Jeff Saturday what did you make of that? Greeny when coaches get fired players get fired, that's the bottom line in this business. I don't care what anybody else says when Quinn and Dmitrov got fired everybody else is expendable and that's about whether it's Matt Ryan anybody else that Listen Arthur blank not blind right? He's got two kids one's planet Clemson and ones. That are both Georgia quarterbacks who are coming up. He seeing young quarterbacks, light it up in the league. He's not GonNa go out there and commit himself to a thirty five year old quarterback who has it played great this season irrespective of coaching staff. So if you're talking about, Arthur, blank you what he's saying the right things because the bottom line is. Whoever comes in wants to know when they sit in that seat whatever they feel like best for this organization, they're going to move forward with it. All right, fair enough I liked that. So you know what every now and again we do a feature here we call change my mind I'm going to give you one right now change my mind marcus spears. The Indianapolis Colts should trade for Matt Ryan Right now if they get. Matt Ryan was. Caused. By the end of the season, they look like a super bowl team. They are whistling one missing piece and that one piece is the quarterback of the Falcons right now marcus changed my mind. Archaic. That's that's logical. Long if you tell me Matt, round is not going to turn the ball over sending him to Indianapolis s a better football team because right now, Philip rivers ain't got it. Man I mean we all been watching this weekend and week out and we understand what they want to do with running the football with Jones and Taylor met ran is not long not done. He's on the cusp in Atlanta's absolutely needs to start thinking about getting a young guy in there too. So they can start grooming and take over their franchise before you waste the last of hopefully Julio Jones healthy years and Calvin really those guys with that offensive firepower Matt Ryan. Indianapolis is not a bad idea G. sometimes you throw out a football idea and I'm like did this guy? Just hang around his game. He gets old was in the front office and make decisions. That is a really good one g I kind of liked that a lot if I was making decisions right now, I would still be there doing that make a whole lot of good ones Grazziano work with me on this what would have to happen for that to happen? We got the trade deadline a couple of weeks away the cold spent a lot of money on Philip rivers what would happen here it salary cap would have to go up by about twenty five to fifty million dollars not. Either team to afford this Culture Pan Philip rivers twenty five, million, this year, and the falcons have no cap space and if they were to Trade Matt Ryan Right now about forty four, million dollars in dead cap money would accelerate onto this year's captured. They'd have to trade half the rest of the team as well or cut them. So it probably isn't feasible now now in the offseason. Say They're picking number one, pick a number two, and they want to take Trevor Lawrence or quarterback in the future. Absolutely you could take big. Cap It excuse me Trading Matt Ryan. Pay a rookie quarterback for a while and definitely move on if what you WanNa do is a total rebuild I. Think what Arthur Blank San is. All bets are off. We don't know who's going to be the GM who's going to be the coach could be a rebuild. We're GONNA have to wait and see aren't you ruined it? You ruined it with all your fancy logic. All your information. I'm just playing fantasy football up here swag and I'm telling you. Swaggie, he was telling me I should have been a GM that Grazziano. Enough money to do this. Okay. Where do we go next alley go to the game tonight. All right. So Dan Grazziano earlier this morning live right here reported no positive tests from the titans. So they will play buffalo tonight is a huge game. These teams are combined seven. Bill seeking their first five hundred start since nineteen ninety-one Tennessee seeking its first four nose starts since two thousand eight Josh Allen has thrown twelve touchdowns this year with three more, he would pass Jim. Kelly. For the most of the teams, I five games in bills history titans meanwhile haven't played over two weeks. They'll last game was September twenty seven that was a one point win over Minnesota of course, facility has been closed for the overwhelming majority of that time I guess we'll find out tonight what impact that winds up happening having on them in the meantime Greg mcelroy no you've put together some tape to illustrate just how well Josh Allen has been playing. All the all the love MVP votes are going to green bay or Seattle to Erin and Russell Wilson. But let's not forget about what our guys doing in the upstate there in Buffalo Josh Allen guys has been sensational. Let's look at the arm strength. It starts there. All right. A lot of time in the pocket he's retreating backwards. He's going away from the line of scrimmage here and he throws all arm I mean no lower body at all twenty seven yards on a frozen rope digs across field but I love this. This is the savvy little pump fake spears get the guy elevated just like at who escaped. Stayed downfield delivers an absolute strike and if we're going to give credit to Patrick mahomes in his creativity slash recklessness, let's. Do it my man, Josh Allen Canes on third and ten throws what I would call Kenny stabler prayer mud at least gives his team a chance and this guy is on time and time again to where it's almost very routine you expect them to make the spectacular play but he's also now making the routine plays looked very, very easy I've been thrilled with his development and he's on track to I. Think maybe the most improved player in the NFL this season. So very exciting stuff from the bills quarterback, Jim Sandra the bills legit. They are legit listen I. I held out on. Josh Allen. But he has played lights out. You just saw the take. This guy is carrying a single terry lists. They thought Moss was gonNA come in and and but but devin single has played really well, he's been a little dynamite right averaged over four yards a carry catching four passes the game so they can spread. Around even with those great receivers when you have a back who's capable and again winning on the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball leads to a lot of wins a very good football team playing the buffalo bills. The bills are a three and a half point favorite tonight against Tennessee guys I have one minute total here swag who who you got tonight. Got Buffalo Love. Josh Island, is like the guy talked about Sean McDermott brandes Bowling Fraser Doing a tremendous job coaching this football team as well. Buffalo Beats Tennessee. Jeff we got. I'm going Buffalo I just think the distractions and Tennessee overcoming all the things they've had how many games of switch it's going to be too tough. The timing between Tannahill and receivers are going to be hard. So I'm GonNa go bills as well. mcelroy. No one circles the wagons like the buffalo bills get it done the night and I, think it's enlarge more and some of the rust the Tennessee might have. But also like I said, man Josh Allens Plan has anybody at the quarterback spot. On are you gonNa go opposite all these guys. nope taken Buffalo Tennessee hasn't practiced. They got a bunch of guys still on the covid nineteen list I. Don't think they're going to be. They're going to have enough for this. Meanwhile, it was you who broke the news a little earlier this morning that the there were no positive tests for the titans. So they will play and there was further news. You have here about New England, no new positives with the New England patriots this morning. So encouraging sign for them as they get ready for their reschedule. Yes. This Sunday against Denver Yup I said they would play the broncos this coming weekend obviously this is pro football talk twenty. Keep coming back. Good Right I. Mean that read Schedules Game Right there. There's nothing obviously nothing is obviously happening in pro football and twenty twenty. Thank you so much for getting up with us this morning. We will see you back and better than ever tomorrow I hate starts now.

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"Go morning it is time to get out with a tough time for tampa in a thriller with the reins what does the result mean for both teams in the nfc. We start then with the steelers set to share their thanksgiving. The ravens have major concerns with covid. Can they find a way to overcome yet. Another obstacle and then it goes from bad to worse for joe burrow white may be a long time before we see this young star on the field again all that and more as we get up with you starting right now on a tuesday from the seaport. Greenie here with you ready to talk lots and lots of football. And i've got exactly the right crew to do it with me. Let's take a look at who's ready to roll this morning. Dan graziano is here. Greg mcelroy ready to go and jeff. Saturday is gonna sit down with pancakes a little bit later this morning but we begin with the other night monday night. Football buccaneers at home taking on the rams. Could it be a preview of an nfc playoff game for the first time ever an all black officiating group overseeing the action last night. And here's what they saw. Second quarter bucks down seven nothing third down in scoring territory. It's brady it's mike evans. My heavens physical dragging troy hill all way. To the end zone touchdown bucks tie the game at seven later in the second. It's golf looking to answer down. Fourteen seven not anymore. Wien jefferson takes it in for his first career touchdown. We're tied at fourteen rams field goal before the half at seventeen fourteen. Now the rams third quarter gov picked by jason pierre paul setting up tampa field goal with seventeen game later in the quarter. Same score bucks first and ten. Tom brady back to throw tom. Brady watt jordan fuller brings it back thirty seven yards. Where was that one going. Brady's eighth interception of the season as many as he had all of last year. Ensuing rams drive second and at the. It's gone cam. Akers first touchdown. Brady's mistake gives the rams at twenty four seventeen late fourth quarter same score bram second and sixteen got about seven and change to play. The one thing off can't do with turner over the one thing got can to turn it over. Picked all by jordan whitehead goth second interception of the day the bucks defense coming up and their role in the boat. Could they row at home box looking to make it pay in the red zone this on his godwin chris godwin flies through the air with the greatest of ease but a view from the pylon cam. Here he takes it in. We're tied at twenty four and suing drive just over three minutes left in the game. We got a third and one for his favorite target all night. Long was cooper kupp. Cup had eleven catches a hundred forty five yards nineteen of them there but his team and field goal range of irony matt. Gay originally drafted by the tampa. Bay buccaneers out here to try and blast one against his former team. That's good from forty orange ways of the rams go up twenty seven twenty four but they left time on the clock for tom. Brady who has led forty seven game winning drives in the fourth quarter overtime in his career. But then oh my goodness what did he do. He just floats that fuller there for another interception and how with ends the rams went at twenty seven twenty four tough night tampa tom. Brady's made a career at a moments. Like that one do you think. He hasn't played his best for against the better teams in the nfc support. Still trying to figure that out. I mean times. We look really really good. And then there are times when we obviously don't I felt very very comfortable in the two minute. Drive until the throw. We've had some chances definitely receives doing a great job. And i got to get on the ball so figure out how to do that. I can see the look on his face. Brady struggling to get it. Downfield when throwing fifteen yards downfield or more. This was easily as worst game of the year. One for nine in those situations with two picks this year when he has a completion percentage of forty five percent on those throws. The team is seven and when it's below that number there oh enforced so the struggles really continue. And let's bring the crew in here and jeff saturday. I'm starting with you. As i don't know that anyone in america didn't think brady ran out of that field at the end of that game that he was gonna find a way to win it. What did you see from him there and all night. He can't make the plays that the team needs for him to make and he proved that last night when bruce arians talking about how comfortable he is going into that. I'm not really sure why i mean. There were plays early in the game that showed you. He really wasn't on point. And i'll show you the place i'm talking about. Listen this is one on one coverage you. Have your best guy evans on ramsey. He does the ball out of bounds. Greedy i mean look at least give your guy shot to make this play the first deep true deep ball you throw it out of bounds that does not give me a ton of confidence and then right here. This is out in the left flat. I'm like me thrown it from third base to first base. Right i'm hitting the free compete and pitcher mound. I mean how bad is that. This is not a guy. I mean you when you just talked about. He was oh for six on those throws of twenty yards a or more last night. He's getting back to that point where he's not making it throws there's no confidence in those deep balls. This offense has to have those plays if they want to be successful in the playoffs. It felt like a little bit of a shocker. Their greg through a quarterback is. What did you see brady guys. It was not good for him by any stretch. But part of the problem is the fact of the pressure that they were applying upfront along. The defensive line was absolutely atrocious. I mean he is guys in his lap and he used to be able to pull off those throws that you just talked about even with guys in his lap. The storybook on brady has always been. Hey move them up spot. See if you can hit him. he's going to be a different guy. If you can do both those things well he used to still be able to execute those throws maybe half the time now. He misses a throw. Yes to just his arm angle and it's brutal but you look at the third quarter guide. I twenty plays of the game. Really nice the third quarter. Y'all i thought i was watching. The chicago bears. It was absolutely atrocious. Offensively the plan was bad. They weren't smart with protections brady had no opportunities and as soon as they took jalen ramsey and put them on mike evans they ramped up the physicality you saw from the from the ram secondary and they had absolutely no answer. I really really hated their second. Half plan. and their inability to make adjustments brady was off the mark. Bruce arians was off the mark. The receivers couldn't separate and the opposite blind. Couldn't protect but other than that you know is pretty solid night agree so thinking back over the course of the season. The primetime games. They've had this year. They lose to the bears on a thursday night they get obliterated by new orleans. They barely beat the giants. They may have gotten a a fortunate bad call at the end to hold on and then last night they lose here. Dan glaviano. You were telling me that you were texting with some scouts and others watching. What were they telling you. They were seeing one thing that stood out to me. Somebody said that. The buccaneers coaches are not doing a good enough job of on early downs of putting the books in position to avoid third and long. And they're impatient on offense and it's just pure dropback back and they just didn't see a lot of creativity from them. So i think people are surprised by that because you think about bruce arians guy that that can be creative on offense and put his guys in position to succeed but the thought around the league. Maybe they're just not doing enough and asking. Maybe a little too much of tom brady to just drop back from center and fire downfield over and over again. I mean you're watching the rams on pre snap motion all night and you don't really don't see much of that from tampa bay and i think people are surprised that there's not more more interesting elements to that offense so jeff. Let's talk about that well as you're watching it. How much of it is players. And how much of it is plays. How much of it is brady. And how much of it is what. They're not doing right to put him in a position to succeed. Think dan makes a great point about putting them in the position but at the end of the day you win their plays there to be made. You have to make them in the under throws for the interceptions that brady is doing. It's one thing to miss a throw. It's another thing to to turn the ball over right and not protect the football. And everybody understands. Bruce arians has always been a five steps seven steps. Hey we're gonna chuck that thing down the field and make plays when brady went there. He understood what was going to be. asked of. the problem. Is if you're going to miss. You can't miss with a turnover right and so there's things he's not seeing in the defensive backfield but to bruce. Arians going to have to help tom brady. Because he's showing you what's gonna is gonna look like in the future you've got to give him more intermediate routes you gotta help him. And here's the other point green. They got to run the football they bring in roggio and they have four at some point. You've got to establish your own and be physical to take the pressure off of brady somewhat. So they're find themselves at this point. The buccaneers in a whole world of hurt in the nfc south. That feels as though it may be getting hopelessly away now. They're just battling to make sure they get into the playoffs. That's where we wake up this morning coming off of the wrap up of week. Eleven on the nfl. But there's much more to talk about. Grazziano me start with you. Let's run the hurry up through a bunch of different issues and let's start with the bears who's their quarterback this week. Well they know yet greeny and bears head coach. Matt nagy said they has to get everybody on the field tomorrow. Wednesday and see how healthy they are. We know nick foles hurt his hip at the end of the last game. They played two weeks ago. We know mitchell trubisky been out with a shoulder injury so the health could make the decision for nagy. If they're both healthy he's got a tough call. May switch back to trubisky just to get a little spark for the offense. Arizona with quarterback is it's cuyler murray. They're playing in foxborough against the patriots. This week kyle. Lowry hurt his shoulder in their last game finished. The game and the expectation is that he will be good to go this week. Head coach cliff kingsbury said yesterday. They're going to get him out on the field today practice today and make sure he can cut it loose. That's a quote from kingsbury. So we'll see but the expectation is. Tyler should be fine for this week's game against the patriots the baltimore. Ravens will not be fine at running back thursday night against pittsburgh. Jk dobbins and mark ingram both tested positive for the coronavirus according to baltimore coach. John harbaugh that means they have to be out for ten days at least and that means they won't be able to play on thursday against pittsburgh that baltimore running back room going to be very very thin for a game the ravens absolutely have to win and looking ahead. They play next thursday to so those guys would be in danger of possibly missing two games depending on do they show symptoms. How long it's been since the test cetera. I'll take a look at some of the numbers here. The ravens lead the nfl in russia's per game yards per game and dobbins and ingram or a huge part of that around forty two percent of the team's total carries and yards. Here's john harbaugh still confident that his team can stay aggressive on the ground. Thursday night run game is always a a group effort. All all eleven guys are involved that certainly and will be. I'm sure we'll run the ball. Thirty nine people say all the time he got trust the process but You know we've been working for so long It's gonna happen. I'm telling y'all it's it's about to happen you know i'm confident this team. We've got to keep on going. Keep on trusting in time to go show the world what we can do okay so a lot to unpack again ahead of what is really important. Game and grazziano. Let me quickly start with you again. Because i'm sure when this story came down yesterday. Positive tests game is three days away. There were fans wondering is the game going to be played. What is the answer to that question. As of now the answer is yes. Obviously we'll be further test. What they do is they identify. Everybody's close contacts and test them. And if you start to see something happen like we saw earlier. This season with tennessee where there was a team wide outbreak. Then maybe there's talk of postponement and rescheduling as of now. The league is planning to proceed with that. Game as scheduled on thursday will monitor the testing results throughout the week. All right. so that's that side of this story. There's a whole other side of the story and jeff. Let's pick it up there. And that is that the ravens who bullied everyone in the league last year have been on the other side of that this season. They got bullied in their own building by the tennessee. Titans on sunday and that created a lot of conversation on this show yesterday about just what the ravens are as you watch them. Jeff saturday what are they. A mediocre football team. I mean when you're when you talk about the expectations of what this team was and is the i just heard edwards. It was almost comical hearing him. Hey we're we're right there on the edge. Well what makes you believe that other than your on the team understand. You got to say it. But at the end of the day this team has not physical on either side of the ball. And that's the scary part. Is the offense we know. They've had some some offensive. Lineman go down stanley and yonder retired. So it's been more difficult for them to be physical on offense but they can't sustain draws but that's now leaked over to the defense and i get campbell. Williams have been out but at some point. Where's the nastiness to this football team. Right where's the team that just comes hits you in the mouth and doesn't care and shortens games and does all those things. There's nothing there about that right now so when you talk about pay. We're right on the cusp of turn. This thing around there's no there's no eros pointing to that direction for me and that's the problem when you talk about thursday night against that steelers defense. Those joan get after you so you better be able to run the ball. It may be a heavy dose of lamar jackson. Running it or giving some rpo's but something's got to change about how physical and nasty ravens football team plays. They don't have that from last year. And they don't have a quarterback who is having an historically great season. So greg i turned to you as we watch it. What is the right thing. Say about where. Lamar jackson is right. Now well you had to go quite literally. Two plays into the game on sunday to see lamar jackson's not seeing the field. Very well right now. It's you know a situation where he's not very accurate and he's not making great decisions if you look at some of the throws in the decisions he's making in the passing game you're sitting there and you're seeing guys open on the field and yet he's trying to force balls into windows down the field that are really low percentage place. I'm not saying don't be aggressive but understand to situationally that you guys are struggling off extra so the second you get off schedule. You're in trouble. He tries look second seven. Second play of the game. He tries to force willie. Snead almost gets picked up by dropping corner. He's got hollywood brown sitting there at the sticks for an automatic first and ten. You see that show up time and time again and then it's not exclusive to the passing game. He's making bad decisions in the run game and then on top of it. All his receivers aren't helping them out right now. Guys they are tied for twenty ninth tied for twenty nine in the nfl regards to drop percentage the only teams worse than them or the cleveland browns. The green bay packers so they are not a team. That's catching the football with any consistency. And if they got a quarterback does not see in the field well when he does deliver it in the right place. You'd better bring it in for. Listen i'm old enough to remember when our analytics said. They were favored in every game. This season and we were wondering if they might go sixteen now all of a sudden we're wondering if they might be on the outside of the playoff picture looking in in other news yesterday adam. Schefter our bengals reporter. Ben baby reported that joe burrow tore his acl his mc l. and suffered other structural issues in his left knee after injuring sunday against washington. Yesterday here on this show. Rex ryan had the following thoughts about the injury to burrow. He said more pass dropback passes than any quarterback in the league. That's how you're going to handle a rookie quarterback with a horrible offense align in a bad football team. That's not what you do to this kid. We love this football player. Let's protect them. I think it was reckless in the way they handled them. And look. it's unfortunate. I know the coaches remorseful about it. Now but we sought come and the whole season. He wasn't the only person i've heard. Say that and we should put some numbers to it. Joe burrow did throw more passes at the time. He was injured than any other player in the nfl this year. Starting as a rookie. He dropped back to pass more times than any other player and he was on pace to become the sixth rookie to fifty sacks in a season at two listed includes. David carr tim couch and blake bortles. So those are the facts and the figures. Jeff saturday you heard what wreck said he has a bad take. I mean i understand looking back you you you second guess man. You had this catastrophic injury and we're all praying for it's devastating to watch but the reality was or is the. He gave your team hope right every every sunday that he ran out there. You felt good about your chances being a bingo fan and bingol teammate. And he gave you the best opportunity to win. That's why you draft him. I in the draft. You don't draft him first to go. Let them watch guys go play and the way that he played demanded that he be on the field. Greenie guy who's showing up every sunday and performing to the level he is. You're gonna bench him because ifs and maybes like that's not the way football works and i look. I understand what you're looking back at. How this could hurt they franchise and all those things but this kid was doing. He was playing above what everybody had expectations for him to do to act like that. We weren't sharing this guy on. How well he was playing the entire season and then all the sudden this awful injury happens. We're gonna change our idea of. Oh he should have never been playing. This kid should have been playing. It's awful. I hate the injury but i have. I have regrets about putting your best player on the field. And that's what he is for the bengals readily greg. Well here's my thing what do you do. You put them in bubble wrap for ten years and he's a great player at thirty two. The way you get better is by playing the way you get better is by being. Put an adverse circumstances and they just talk about rex at the nail on the head off of line. Well how the heck do you want him to move the football. You run down people's throats like what are we talking about. Yes the only way the bengals were gonna win games this year or you know be competitive is by dropping back and throwing it fifty fifty five times a game. That was the only way they had a chance to be competitive. And by the way they work competitive they were two five and one but they only got blown out there only two games in which they had no chance to win so they were in almost every game and to consider this team what they purchased a year ago. How much they turned it around in large part due to what they were doing with joe burrow. I just don't know how you can criticize twenty twenty. But i think i agree with jeff. I think it's a bad take by rex. I understand what you're saying. I think there's more to it than meets the eye. We could talk about it. Further but graziano is important to get into just what the injury means so we know now a little. The injury is more significant than your run of the mill clean air. I don't know if i'm using the right terminology there. We'll have to find your bell a little bit later with the details. But what do we know about when we might expect to see him again. Yeah the timetable were given. These injuries generally take nine to twelve months. Adam schefter had had that in that report as well so that calls the start of next season into question when you look at potential. Comparisons deshaun watson his acl in practice his rookie year. He was back for the start of the following season. But i don't think there was other other ligaments effected i could be wrong but my memory says no carson wentz had a multi ligament injury in december of two thousand seventeen. He missed the first two games of two thousand eighteen remember. They're coming off the super bowl and they started foles at the beginning of the season. So defined you can speak to this whether the injuries are potentially similar but he comes back at some point next year. It's just too soon to know for sure. If we're talking about week one we will get that medical inside a little later in the program. We are just getting started going to be a very busy morning. Coming up on get up. Is it time for the eagles. To bench carson wentz. you'll hear one of our analysts say escaping from winch will be like escaping from alcatraz and he will explain vince. Speaking of the bench did brian. Flora's make the right decision telling to take a seat. You've got questions we've got answers as we continue in speaking of questions of a poll question up right now on my twitter page at espn greenie. If you bet money on it which is a better chance of happening. The steelers go unbeaten for the jets. Go winless hear the laughter in the room. Non take it back in a moment get up on. Espn we are back on. Get up and there's a nice gesture here. Marshawn lynch and his fame first family foundation helped hand out two hundred free turkeys to people in hawaii ahead of the thanksgiving holiday. Just one of so many athletes giving back at this time of the year as we continue carson. Wentz has had a lot of rough games this season. Sunday may have been his worst. Who's to blame for the failures. Is it time for him to see the bench. We'll talk about that. Plus if i told you one of the two teams playing last night we'll wind up in the super bowl. Which one would you pick. We'll talk about that and more as we continue up with you on. Espn we are back on. Get up and if you're just joining us here's a look at what happened last night. Buccaneers monday night football. Tom brady up and down all night. Third quarter tied at seventeen. Grady brady throwing what jordan fuller with pick thirty seven yards. Brady's eighth pick of the year as many as he had all of last year. Rams would school on the ensuing drive. They make a twenty four seventeen. La fourth quarter. That's still the score. Jared goff threw an interception giving a brady and the bucks a chance and chris. God wouldn't take advantage and they tied the game at twenty four under two minutes to go after refill golden given the rams a three point lead grady and under two minutes looking to win the game and he just loads one fuller another pig brady second interception of the game costly and the ran's win twenty seven twenty four now every week. Our friends at subway. Ask us to bring you the good calls. Good calls brought to you by subway and the rams defense made some good calls last night particularly in the second half this shutting down. The buccaneers brady threw for just ninety yards. A double the amount of pressures in the second half threw two interceptions after throwing none in the first-half so we come out of last night's game a game that i sort of led into saying could easily be a preview of an nfc playoff game or even the nfc championship game. So let's do this. Dan graziano. I'll start with you if i told you right now. That one of the two teams. We watched on monday night. Football last night is gonna wind up in the super bowl this year. Which one would you bet. It will be coming off a last night's game you have to say the rams. They looked like the better team. Tampa bay looks like kind of a mess. And when you think about it in the big picture rams are in the super bowl two years ago with a lot of the same people whereas the buccaneers team that they're putting together this year. You know some guys are still getting to know each other. So i don't think it's completely ridiculous to look and say that the rams would have the better chance they play very good defense If jared goff can throw the ball that much and and and as effectively as he did last night then that's something they have going for them that we haven't seen much this year but They definitely look like the better team right. Now they would be the two-seat greg mcelroy. Which of last night's two teams would you bet. Money would wind up in the super bowl. It'd be the rams and it's because history repeats itself guys. We just have to go back one year and the similarities between the twenty twenty rams and the two thousand nineteen san francisco. Forty niners are very real. Let's go to the checklist off. Its head coaches. Check on both very talented however somewhat of a liability at quarterback jimmy. Garoppolo was that for san francisco. Jared goff at times has been that for the ramps. You haven't unbelievably dominant and disruptive defensive line know what forty niners had last year with both company and then you got aaron donald. Maybe the best defensive player in the entire league if not for jalen ramsey. Jalen ramsey is very much in the mix. Physical ball hawking secondary that can really disrupt the rhythm of the passing game. We already know. The result of what san francisco did last year. They were just of miraculously comeback. From patrick mahomes away from winning the super bowl. What will we see from the la rams but in the i think the parallels between those two things those two teams are are somewhat there. Do worry though about goff. let me. I don't know how else to say that. He made a couple of really bad decisions last night. The rams could have run away with this game if not for him making terrible decisions in the past game that defenseman they were disruptive the entire night so i really like what i've seen so far outside of the occasional bad decision for jared. Goff you make in fancy full screens and everything to illustrate your argument jeff. Saturday i'm telling you right now. One of the teams we watched last night is winding up in the super bowl. Which one are you telling me. It is the los angeles rams as much as it pains me. Because i've been books apologised for the entire football season but what i saw last night was disheartening. And i'll say because when you look at their offensive line and the ability to protect and keep that pocket. Clean for tom brady. It just has not been there greeny and so you're watching we've talked about. This has been the book on tom. Brady really is entire career. It's every pocket passer if you move off spot but the concern for me is the deep ball. And that's what bruce arians wants to live on. Brady's not doing it. Well as much as it pains me going rams at this point i well. I've said it before. And i'll say it again mine. Is that rare genius. That will not be fully appreciated until long after the correct answer. Here of course remains the tampa bay buccaneers. Because they have tom. And someone needs to go into bruce arians office and i think that someone is brady needs to walk into his office and say you know what you're getting this all wrong. It's time to let me get it right. He's got stop flinging the ball down the field. It is evident than you guys have talked about all morning long. He can't do it. That offense that he runs is not the offense they should be running. So in my opinion it remains tampa bay. They just need to start playing tom. Brady's brand of football. Rather than bruce arians brand of football meanwhile onto our next issue. Dan grazziano overreaction tuesday. We got one for you today. The eagles should bench carson wentz. The world is screaming it. Is that an overreaction or not. it's an overreaction. Because look it's not like they. Have you know joe montana. Steve young sitting on the bench though. The guy is backing him up as a rookie. That we really haven't seen play the quarterback position yet. There's no way to know for a fact whether jalen hurts is ready. The eagles coach is probably know that better than any of us do and carson wentz is the guy they have to get it fixed with because long term they got significant commitment to him and the franchise would be in big trouble if he turn it around but we'll pick up on that thought in a moment on the contract which is look at the numbers. Qbr below the league average only drew lock a worst completion percentage. You've been sacked forty times. He's turned it over eighteen times. Both of those lead. The league here was his coach. Doug peterson yesterday on this preparing himself. Each week to play. And and that's what a backup quarterback should do. My perspective is that we have to get it fixed with carson wentz and we have to. We have that's where my trust and my faith is and then we can get it done. And that's where i'm at but by no means am i saying that that i don't have trust or faith in jalen it's a matter of having the getting the corrections carson. All right. so let's start at the top greg mcelroy and know you've put together. Some tape with quarterbacks is what are we seeing in carson wentz right now. Well it's certainly the night greenie but here is exactly why carson wentz should not be benched. There's enough good and what he did. How about this three man rush. Meaning you know you got eight dropping back in the coverage. So what do you do you either. Wait forever in the pocket with that offensive line. You kidding me no chance. You got to change the launch point. Allow your receivers to uncover beautifully by the way is pouring rain. I don't know if you guys knew that this right here. Hard play action. he seizes tight end win. Immediately gets rid of the ball really quickly and beautifully really accurate throw. This is a heart blache. A seven man protection. Jeff saturday tightened up upfront please. He's got to get it out and less than three seconds before he gets his clock cleaned house him by the way it was raining. I don't know if you guys saw that. And then here man to man coverage all right he recognizes that and he sees the matchup. You got a linebacker against tight end. That's advantage us every single time. Get back wilson biggest. Rogers oh by the way another guy in your face you got thrown off balance off your back foot. Perfect location really nice. Throw him a football. And by the way in case i didn't mention it it was a downpour. Can we stop overreacting to the fact that he didn't have his best stuff on sunday. Who the heck what under those conditions. It was pouring rain. It was an impossible circumstance. And it's all about wentz. The problems around him are very evident. The offensive line is leaky as can be no pun intended with the rain receivers with so i think. They got a lot of things to tighten up their quarterbacks. The one piece that i still do trust. That's well done but the reality of it is that yes the problem with carson. Wentz has never been that. We don't see this patacula place. You see this spectacular stuff. It's the huge mistakes that kill him and kill his team sometimes. Jeff what are you seeing. Yeah he can't anticipate any throw and listen. You could talk about all the quarterback factors you want anticipations. Gotta be top on your list. More than arm's drink more than athleticism because if you can anticipate there you can't throw guys open and i loved the tape. Big greg just put together but let me help you with offensive line. Their offensive line is not played. Well but thirty two of the forty six they'd have come on carson. Wentz have been after four seconds. Greg four seconds brother. You can't anticipated. Throw dude. I don't care if it's raining or not. Can i see the guys run out of the flat. And i wanna double pump and then throw a guy can take it and pick six. That's got nothing to do with the offensive line and listen. I'm not trying to say that. There's other areas the football that needs to be fixed but carson wentz is a hundred million dollar man if he is part of your problem on the eagles that has to be the last problem. I mean are you kidding me like you ve given him. He can't be part of the problem. And he is his anticipation. His hesitation is absolutely killing. This offense and again you're holding the ball that long. That means you don't know where to go with it. So either. He does need to get together or they gotta make a change. Something's gotta give because at this point. It's not getting better. You're literally watching a sinking ship. Because of all the rain greg. Okay very well played to sort of. Put a ribbon on the conversation. I mentioned and dan. I used the line from you that to escape from this if the eagles wanted to and we don't know that they do would be like escape from alcatraz dan graziano tell everyone wide. He's got thirty million dollars coming this year. He's got a fully guaranteed twenty five point four million dollars coming next year as of this coming march four months from now a fifteen million dollar roster bonus for twenty twenty two becomes fully guaranteed if they cut him this year. It's going to be a sixty million dollar dead cap. If they cut him in the twenty twenty two off seasons a forty million dollar dead cap hit they are stuck with carson wentz. They have to get it fixed because frankly that is a lot of money to pay a guy to not play for you and it's also a lot of money greg mcelroy to play pay. A guy can't play in the rain. Okay who we put the show on the weather channel. We had so much rain conversation. I as we continue. We're talking about another quarterback. We will tell you why. The dolphins made a very big mistake and it had nothing to do with to see if anybody agrees dax get up on. Espn back on yet up. And we're going on the clock with our crew of analysts errands and grassy ottawa. Starting with you. i'm putting thirty seconds on the clock. Who was the most overlooked quarterback in the nfl this year. Graziano go shawn watson houston remember. They traded as best receivers. They fired his coach. This is a guy who's operating at as high level as he ever has in his career is on pace for career highs in yards in touch incompletion percentage they have an inexperienced playcaller running the offense in the wake of the bill. O'brien firing even trying to mix and match with the run sunday. We saw them put an entire game plan onto shawn watson shoulders and he was absolutely electrifying. If the houston texans had a winning record he would be in the mvp conversation. I'm so glad you said that. That is extreme. Appoint very very well taken a greg. You're next up. Who's the most overlooked team in the nfl. Go how come. Nobody's talking about the indianapolis colts. I feel like we're always for instance. Like when i look and game from sunday. It's more about who lost and why they lost the indianapolis colts. This is team guys by the way that lost to the jacksonville jaguars in week one. But since that game they've gotten a little bit better and a little bit better a little bit better. Philip rivers is starting to resemble the philip rivers that we've come to know and love over the course of the last decade and change and we have a defense that is really sounded all three levels so this is a team guys that is quietly doing a lot of damage in the afc. Two for two. I completely agree with that. One is well. Jeff your next up and for you. We have a question. Was brian florez right to bench to on sunday. Thirty seconds go absolutely. He was right. Listen when you talk about. Brian floors what message. He seemed to us football team. No one guy is bigger than the team right to. He's eleven for twenty eight yards getting sacked. 'cause he's not letting the ball go. What do we decided to give our team the best chance to win. Because we're still in the hunt for the afc. So we're going to bench him and gifted fitzpatrick a chance to bring a spark. I love that. What else does it say to your. Tim the two has a mental fortitude to put up with this and move on and still be the guy there depending on in the future. I love both both caused by bryant job. I couldn't agree more okay. So that's really good and it sets the stage for something. I was talking about on the radio yesterday. And i saw that. There was some disagreement with me. So i am going to not only double down. I'm going to triple down on this opinion guys. I want you to see if any of you want to change my mind. There are three teams that are going to regret not taking justin herbert in the draft this past year and they are in the order in which they selected the washington football team which has clearly given up on dwayne haskins. How good would just in. Herbert look running that team right now. The detroit lions who clearly are going nowhere and need to start over. How good would a young quarterback like him. Look there and the miami dolphins this is less a statement about two than it is about herbert right. Now if you're starting team with any quarterback in the national football league you would consider herbert. He's been that good greg mcelroy. Do you want to change my mind. Let me just caution you hear. Rg three vince. Young mitch trubisky went to a pro bowl within his first couple years. Nick foles was the best quarterback in the league under chip kelly there for a season. These are all guys that were exceptionally good early in their career. Josh freeman and the list goes on and on exceptionally good. Early in their career before boom plummeting. I'm not saying it's going to happen when justin herbert think. He's been exceptionally good far better than i ever expected him to be at least at this point in his development but i don't think we need the jump to these concrete conclusions this early. There's just too much time from where they're going to be really evaluating who. These guys are six seven eight years from now so yes while the early returns screening had been fantastic. I can you. There've been a lot of great young quarterbacks that come crashing back down to earth sooner than later now. I've said this. I am a professional overreact. Jeff saturday do you want to change my mind. I can't change your mind. listen. I love this kid confidence and i love his trust in his receivers washed his game on sunday. This got through some doors. Keenan allen's not open in the end zone he throws them as he's battling with his db the little drop. Look at this little drop in the bucket toss right here sees he's got good coverage he puts it out there. This kid look look. This is green. He goes down pools the corner down at those door. This is the play i was just talking about. Watch this throat aquino allen of winning. Let's it go. he's covered. What am i going to do. I'm a throw it open that's -ticipant hey carson witch greg. I can't disagree with you. The difference is it wasn't raining okay. Outstanding i think there's one thing we established here. It's clearly that i'm right. Well let's move on college football. We go next. After florida state abruptly postponed its scheduled game against clemson because of a positive covid test dabbled sweeney ripped into the schools administration florida's states for that decision yesterday the coach at florida's. Take mike nordell responded. Football coaches are not doctors and some of us might think that there's you know there's a reason why those those advisers and are able to make the decisions from the information that is provided and You know it's unfortunate that that That opportunities you know now been delayed but There's a reason that those protocols and and the people making that decision you'll have to have that job responsibility so this is messy heather de paul finebaum as always with this great to see you guys heather. Who's right here. Is is dab right in what. He's saying well greedy. Look you can argue all day. Who's right here. But i can tell you this. The acc missed. Its chance to exert some authority so that you didn't have to play the role of judge in this. When it happened behind the scenes the acc should have made some sort of decision and public statement. That was stronger than the one that came out. They've been silent since this happened. And it's escalated into a family feud the second point is i expect them behind the scenes to come to an agreement to play on december twelfth and the third point is even if they didn't play it doesn't matter because the college football playoff selection committee is not going to leave out clemson if they win the acc and finish as a one loss conference champ just because they don't play florida state just like they're not going to leave alabama out if they don't find a way to play lsu. And so i think your point is a good one there that someone should have stepped in and not let it get this kind of publicly messes so paul finebaum. I will come to you. Who looks bad in this florida state or debo for saying it. The way he did first of all. Who's right is heather. She's one hundred percent right in in terms of what she said. I don't think dabba looks at that. And and i know the pundits all over the country. Greening our assassinating him. Because it's easy thing to do. I mean dabo is not making a proclamation against kobe safety. He just wanted to know why we didn't have a football game saturday. We spent three hundred thousand dollars going down there and nobody could make up their minds. So i don't have any problem with him. Standing up and screaming and hollering because he wanted to get that game out of the way he doesn't wanna play that game on december twelfth one week before he has to see notre dame in the championship game so in the end The acc created this disaster and the fact that they still haven't set anything is shameful. Okay fair enough. How meanwhile let me come back to you here. And i will ask this question in advance. I will say the right answer is northwestern the first set of college football playoff rankings will be unveiled tonight. What story line are you watching for. Well as much as i know you want me to say northwestern. I'm going to go ahead and say cincinnati greenie because who's on. The bubble is the biggest question. I think the top four in whatever order should be alabama notre dame ohio state and clemson your typical teams. But then how high do they rank bearcats. Because if you're looking at them on paper they actually have a stronger case in both texas and florida which leads me to ask. Is the committee. Honor the head to head result of the aggies over the gators. Even though kyle. Trask and the gators have looked phenomenal lately. So i think those five six seven spots are going to be the most interesting tonight fair enough so if if by cincinnati you mentioned northwestern. I agree with you a paul same question. What are you watching for tonight. Well i am watching for northwestern green. Because i wanted to see what. The committee values That win the other day and how seriously they are taking the big ten other than house day now having said all that. Let me make it easy on you. And i'm going to declare right now. If northwestern wins out and i think they will until they get to the ohio state game and then beat ohio state they are going to be in the college football playoff. There are no debate bates. No doubt and nothing can change my especially since you wrote the script for me. That's what that's why he's the best in the business folks. Paul thank you very much. We'll see you tonight as we work our way towards this seven eastern on espn and the espn app. The exclusive reveal of the college football playoff top twenty five rankings. Recent the guys breaking them down top to bottom of coaches reactions in a live interview with the committee chairman. That's tonight seven eastern on espn. I covered up rough night for tampa. Tom are analysts. Have been concerns after watching the goat last night. We'll tell you what they are as we continue to get up with you on espn.

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It is time to get up with Russell Westbrook at truly ugly confrontation with a fan in Utah. How does the NBA keep this from happening again that is one minute away and football free agency the tampering coming fast and furious. But the biggest bitch has not yet been caught. We have all the moves, and what they mean straight ahead, and as to that fish, where we'll go we've got the five destinations that make the most sense. And why the fact that hasn't happened yet? Feels like bad news. Let's get up with you starting right now morning. Welcome to our studios in New York. It's Jalen on greenie. Mike Woodson his bag and the Dan's are here, talking football, Laskey and Grazziano. And that is where we wanted to start this morning talking about all the reeling and dealing felt like half the NFL change teams yesterday. But there was an incident last night in Utah that requires a great deal of conversation. Let's get right to it. Russell Westbrook in the thunder in Utah taking on the jazz. And let's go backwards in time eleven months ago when a playoff game thunder in Utah. Russell westbrook. Walk. Off at halftime getting into it with a fan as he walked to the tunnel. Again. This is half time pointing at the fan security. This is last April same game walking off into the tunnel. Smacking phone out of the hands of different fan. Westbrook. Clearly, not happy. So he's had issues in Utah before. Now back to last night in the second quarter of their game Westbrook getting into it with a fan was captured on tape. Here was the moment. That was the moment again in the second quarter. The thunder would go on to win the game. That is not the important part of this. Here was the Westbrook after it was started. Wife in the stands told me to get on Mondays to for me. Shes completely disrespectful to me. Racial. I think it's just inappropriate innocence. There's no pretension for the players. A finger here. Not a great friends and around the world likes to come to the game. Jordan people that come to the game to say me disrespecting about me family. Committee years doing all the right things. I've never done anything to her harm. Anybody on never been in trouble. Whenever the fan. Been le- let me years closely. This would not be taken from me on my arm completely just sit back some time and just take one video but throughout the whole game Ben here, especially here in Utah. Come here's disrespectful things. I said in. For me. I'm just not going to continue to take initiative. My family got to be something done. There's gonna be classes for those type of people on that come to the game. Just to say, do whatever they want to say. And I don't think it's fair to the players not just to me on the players. And if I had to do it over again, I would say the same exact thing. Westbrook's teammate Patrick Patterson tweeted, this fans can say stuff about a man's family wife and kids tell the player get down on your knees. Like, you're used to as men what you expect us to shut up dribble. No one is held accountable for their actions except for us fans are protected in every way possible, but not us the fan in question was interviewed after the game and offered this account of the events. He's got to be a professional. I mean, she was sitting down the entire time me and him were just who's kind of having fun. We thought you were having he was smiling at one point. And there I mean, there was a lot of people because it was when Joe it come by. And poked, Paul, George I and then joke goes over and apologizes immediately Russ's just f-bomb and carrying on acting a fool down here in everybody's getting on him. They had yet. I guess heat. I've thought it was is I just told him to sit out a nicer knees, bro. And he turned me. And he's like that team. I'm like, well, you're going to need it. And then it turned into. Not safe for work. His vision of the event the jazz released this statement, we are continuing to investigate the unfortunate exchange. Tonight's game between Russell Westbrook and fans multiple warning cards issued by arena security players and fans have shared responsibility to create a safe and respectful environment. If it is determined that any fans violated the NBA code of conduct appropriate action will be taken. So that's what happened. Let's talk about what it means again, Jalen and Mike Woodson or here jailing, we see we have seen incidence of this sort when I woke up this morning than aim Ron our test was trending on Twitter because the biggest fear always is to go back to things like what happened with the malice at the palace. And so what is your reaction to what we saw last night? Well, there's a lot there. So from Russell Westbrook side, you gotta think about it. He's at work. Okay. It's emotional high intensity. He's performing trying to help his team win basketball game. Now fans are going to be there to cheer for their team. And rightfully so I think the NBA fan interaction with this. It's the best that we have in professional sports. But they're always going to be those people in the arena that take it too far the feel like they are part of the action, and that they can save things to Russell Westbrook while he's in shorts and attained top that they wouldn't necessarily say to him when he's walking down the street like a normal civilian. And so how you remedy. This is in the arena security has to be more diligent. I don't think there should be sweeping changes to how we do things in the NBA. But you heard that there was some red cards issue as warnings. I think instead of issuing those morning cars, I think action has to initially take place, and then things like this don't escalate Mike, you were telling me a story that when you were coaching Atlanta, you had an incident of this sort and tell us how you handled it. Well, it happened right before the halftime and I walked calmly walked over to security and asked them the removing. And I think that's the best way to handle it. You just can't cross the line with the fans fans pay their money to come out. They want to see a ball game. And I try to stay away from it. And I think Westbrook should have done the same understand that there is however a line that no one should be expected to just take again, we're guardless. I'm not talking about the specifics of this circumstance as much as I am in general. And so the point that you made to us this morning, and the meeting is get security involved walk over to a security guard rather than yelling and screaming yourself walkover finder security and have someone taken out of the arena, they all over the arena. So they put their for reason. So you got to utilize them when then that brings us Jalen to a different place because now you're getting into an area where people are getting taken out of the arena. And now it's at the discretion of security, and we just saw an incident of that sort over the weekend of an entirely different kind that sort of makes us look a little bit different James Dolan as he was leaving a game of fan yelled at him to sell the team and as an owner. You we didn't necessarily cover. This like is going to be covered with Russell Westbrook. But in in theory is the exact same thing happening in reverse. So four fans again, you get a chance to be creative. Like, always appreciate it smart fans earlier in the year, and we were talking about when the Lakers went to Indiana and somebody was on the line. Lebron's going trade you like those type of things are fun. But also, they're not necessarily name calling in. It's not personal when it becomes personal. A reaction is always going to happen. I have seen again, you guys lived it just covered it. But I have seen in heard things said to NBA players in arenas that is the blessing and the curse of having the fans essentially two feet away that I cannot believe and I agree with you. I believe that there has to be more proactive rather than reactive way of doing this security standpoint, you know, what's going on down there. The fan sitting around people know what's going on down there. And before it gets to the level where Russell Westbrook is now captured on video yelling things. He has to explain that that situation can be handled the head of also sometimes fast think they're part of the game. Like somebody's on the free throw line and the crowd is cheering and the God makes miss the fans actually think that they had an influence on that. Right. And so a lot of times they think they're part of the they're part of the outcome. And so for Russell and for this fan who bought away theme to have some personal against Russell. You can go online, and there's some tweets that appear. They're not necessarily confirmed yet. Right. That this fan already had an issue. Russell Westbrook anyway. So now, he just took it to the arena. And he got a chance to voice that opinion. We will have much more to be said about this. As our program continues today. In the meantime, let's leave it there for the moment. Turn our attention to all the action around the National Football League yesterday and run the hurry up with the Dan's Graziano, anwr Laskey, Dan, Dan, Grazziano, let's start with tyrod Matthew goes to Kansas City three years. Forty two million dollars deal. Get done deal for Matthew Kansas City need. Help at the position. I think this could be bad news for Iraq. Berry who has seven million dollars guaranteed money coming on Saturday and could end up being cut because they haven't been able to count on him to stay healthy. Which is why they end up signing Tyron Matthew, which brings us to another safety yesterday who got a huge deal mental land and Collins to Washington six years eighty four million dollars. Dan glaviano. That total surprise you. It does. It's a huge deal. It's bigger than the berry deal by that a million dollars a year so symbolic breakdown. What he's probably gonna end up getting about three years forty five million, which is still Mazda deal makes them right now at the moment the highest paid safety and elite to Oakland where they've been very busy. We know they brought an Antonio Brown over the weekend. Now, they signed Trent Brown patriot offensive tackle four years sixty six million dollars a monster deal for the offense tackle. Yeah. When I like about this deal. He's going to get fifteen point two five million this year, but twenty one and a half million next year after the team moves to Vegas. There's no state income tax about this huge state income tax in California. I wonder Antonio Brown and other Reiter deal structured in a way that the player can take advantage of that. Meanwhile, we may have to rename the team in Detroit the patriots. Because that's where almost every former patriot goes Trey flowers joining the procession going to play will Matt Patricia what do you make all these former pats now in Detroit, particularly with flowers. There was thought that this would make sense for Patricia because having coached, and he knows his particular value. This guy is a guy that can play all over the defensive line doesn't have big sack hold Patricia guy. That knows what he brings flowers is a guy that knows what the Tricia wants to help communicate it to the rest of the and finally as we had known basically was coming since last week Nick foles to Jacksonville four years. Eight million dollars fifty million guaranteed. He basically is now being paid like a top level NFL quarterback mid to high level starting quarterback, which is a big deal more than I thought he'd get. But I think the pitch. The Jaguars from the agents who by the way had a huge day with Anthony Barr. Landon Collins and all these guys that was like look don't low ball. You're starting quarterback. He's got to go in there. And be a starting quarterback. If everybody knows he's getting he's not getting paid any money that could weaken his stature in the locker room at least, maybe even his confidence. It was a feeling around that in really the Jaguars were bidding against themselves on this yesterday. Is that accurate? I believe they were I do not think Miami was in this. That was the only other place where you could really see a starting job open. It seems like the Jaguars were the only game in town for foals full was the only game in town for the Jaguars in terms of guy with high level starting experience bowl MVP. So yeah got done, but at a higher level than I expect. Okay. So that's what happened. Now. Let's talk about what it meant, Dan or Lobski is back whether it'd be gone too long big fellows. Good to see. You got the invite. Okay of all of the moves from yesterday, which do you believe it was the most impactful? I look at Honey badger to Kansas City, and Kansas City's been very outspoken bread veto. And and you read it said, we cannot mess this situation. That we have with Patrick Mahomes being such a young talent. And so fixed that defense Honey badger one of the best guys on the back end picks. He's a fantastic Blitzer great in run support. So you're looking at a guy that could be incredibly versatile for this defense. And now you feel not only need, but like the main issue last year with with kids city's defense. They really have a playmaker on the back end that they can rely on. And so you've got this explosive offense. Now you've went and got Honey badger like I've talked about one of the best playmaker. Playmaking defenders all the NFL. That's sort of the new way of Kansas City is not gonna play defense by trying to hold you to three points, but they need to make a play here or there. Make a pick make a sack have a moment that gives your offense a chance to win the game. Think about all those third down conversions by the patriot. Last few drives AFC championship game. Just stop one of them. And you're in the Super Bowl. That's what they're thinking. They went after land and Collins didn't get him Tyrone, Matthew, obviously, I don't know if he's a fallback. He's a great player, but the same kind of guy in terms of being able to boil over the field. I mean, they're going to play him inside they'll play outside. They'll play him at safety. Blitz them. Put them on the line of scrimmage Amine spec knows gonna have plenty of packages that they can put the Honey badger, and it's a huge signing. Because again now they've got a given that defense solidity run through this. What team do you think to this point is winning free agency? You're taking the jets, you know, the jets they had to first of all too much money to lose it. But you know, when you look at the signing of Anthony Barr who I played against with the Minnesota Vikings very impactful player, obviously this morning CJ Moseley. They went got Jamison Crowder who I love. And so we're talking about young quarterback Sam darnold now, I've given him a receiver that can make place. Jay Moseley, one of the better on the ball off the ball linebackers again example of how can do so many different things Anthony Barr believe that the Russian mood a bit more a little bit more in allow him to go after the quarterback. But the jets had money I sit on the show many times not necessarily the coach was an important higher. What? Did they do with their money? And so now you're looking at a defense. That's got a lot of players to help that young quarterback. Among it's not just the head coach who will be offensive minded guy. But they bring in Greg Williams who was crafty, and they got a bunch of linebackers. I'm reading obviously, a lot about this the reaction on social media. That jets have a lot of linebacker. They do everyone's shocked that they were able to get both of these big linebackers, obviously paid through the nose to do it. I mean average of seventeen million a year for CJ Moseley blows away the Luke Keithly deal from two three years ago for the linebacker market. But look they're not done. They still need a center there in on paradise the Broncos, I don't think they're all the way out on Levy on bell yet. And that's a guy that can really help obviously sparked the offense, but jets GM's spending patch base like his job depends on which which it should. Okay. Let me get you all the way back now to Nick foles because this is Jacksonville team that had the lead in the AFC championship game year and a half ago. Now, they add the credible quarterback in Ecoles. Do you believe they are now a playoff slash Super Bowl contender? This does a lot of issues about ofensive line. They've got an unreliable running back. They've got one receiver on their team that has one hundred catches in his NFL career. So we can expect the Nick foles that we saw in Philadelphia. There is no L Sean Jeffrey there is no best offensive line. Or one of the best. Offensive line's all football. There is no Zach ertz. So. I'm glad for Nicole is good for him. But don't expect the same player. Are they better than Houston? No. Are they better than Indy? No. Are they better than the Browns? No. Are they better than New England? No. Are they better than Tennessee? Are they better than I mean, there's still and if the answer is no on Tennessee, then they're the fourth best team in a four team division. There isn't room for them. There's still a lot of holes on that football team that need to be filled. Not just a quarterback. All right, one other thing I want to get to here. And that is because of course, we spent so much time talking about Antonio Brown. And he winds up in Oakland, arguably the best receiver in the sport where he would wind up. Now, we know where he is the highest paid player in the league at his position. And the new question is how will you get along which on group who has notoriously had some head butting issues with high profile wide receivers most famously with our very own Keyshawn Johnson who offered these thoughts yesterday. Say keep your head on the swivel because when it starts to go into different direction that honeymoon period to be over with. And you have to suck it up or you'll find yourself moving onto another team because John grooten is going to be there for a couple of years more, at least when you were given a certain amount of money as a player, you expect to be utilized at a certain way in when they go away from game planning to Antonio Brown. Or when he's not getting the touches that he thought he was going to give because John grooten certainly will be telling him he's going to be featured. When it doesn't work out the way how you be able to explain that to your star player that certainly becomes an emotional stress process for player his magnitude. Now, you may recall Keyshawn and Gruden won a Super Bowl together in Tampa. But then it got so bad that Gruden sent him home in the middle of the season. So, you know, from whence he comes Brown is a tremendously talented player. What did you think of this combination? What did you make of what Keyshawn said occasions firsthand account? So there's certainly some weight to that. Right. When you had that experience. I give the raiders credit know, I've been outspoken saying you have to go get Derek Carson players. So they certainly everyone has talked about they fleece the Steelers on the move. I just I said that if you're going go get a be your quarterback better being credibly comfortable in his skin. And there's been some question marks with Derek Carr. So his 'Antonio Brown the talent that everyone knows is. Absolutely. So now you've got Jodi Nelson played pretty good year that they needed to your leisure the raiders. And now one of the most dynamic weapons ofensive talents in the NFL, Shirley, but is. It's not going to be so much about on the field for me with within Tonio Brown. It's going to be the marriage off the field. Dan. I saw your notes going over the the contract particulars of cars contract. He sort of has a one year show it to me or they can move on kind of circumstances. Nineteen point nine million this year all guaranteed, but nothing guaranteed after that. So if he plays poorly, and they wanna change quarterbacks going Vegas. They can't. But to dance point Antonio Brown's going to get the ball a ton in this offense. And he should he's top option by far but Gruden and mayo and all these guys that are running the team are kind of playing the long game. We're going to get to and we're going to be good there. We're going to build a contender in Vegas. They've got to be able to sell in Tonio Brown on that long game. And on the idea that maybe this first year there of him in Oakland may not be what he's used to in terms of playoff contender. I hear you. They're spending a boatload of money, and we'll see if they wanna getting in on Levy on bell or not as a question about whether they have cash flow issues on that front and all that I want to bore people with that part of the discussion. But what I'll say is. If you're playing the long game to spending a fortune on a thirty one year old wide receiver make sense when it's that receiver. Yes. I mean when when you when you got their production in the work at the remember, one of the things that is the calling card for a is the work ethic. So certainly thirty one, but he's such a savage of a worker that his body still young. The only thing I will say with John is obviously have no Jon Gruden for years and years he worked with us. His favorite quarterback is always the next one. He get low. If I'm Derek Carr, keep a very close eye on that. And with the things he said about collar Murray, I would not rule out that possibility either we are just getting started. What we're jam packed is morning. Coming train wreck was the name of Amy Schumer movie. Lebron was in that he's ended again, it's sort of describes his season in Los Angeles jailing with what the king can do to get. This thing fixed white all the action yesterday. It was still waiting on levian where will he land Shafie with the very latest coming up? It's got up on ESPN. Jampacked morning working in. We're glad you've chosen to start your morning with us here on ESPN a big half hour coming your way. In addition to all the football expertise. We have at our table. Adam Schefter will join us with the very latest on agency. Whereas Levy on bell gonna go five minutes after that the twenty minutes from Now, Dan, Ocoee will tell you the best bets for him where he should wind up. And then if you've not yet seen it we will take you through all the events that took place last night in Utah. Very disturbing confrontation. If you must have Westbrook and fan all that. And more is on the way our next half hour get up on ESPN. Let's consider the secret life of the INA. Nesting doll living. Most of her life in the dock inside the other nesting Dole's. He has plenty of time to think if we could sadly, she has no brain, however, when in a most nesting dole, his gyco not only saves people money, but also has been providing great service for over seventy five years. She thinks it's obvious. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to gyco is a no brainer pity in a most nesting Dollond her lot in life. We are back on get off it, of course, the very disappointing season. The Lakers are going through his created a whirlwind of reaction across the league. Take listen to what Stephen Smith had to say yesterday right here on Guetta. K D one minute. You hear go to state another minute. You hit a Knicks. You surly LA because he ain't trying to help the Bronwyn more than the LeBron already one kyri urban you hear Boston one minute New York. The next Elliot's outside of his can't picks up the phone of remind you. Yeah, he ain't trying to reunite with LeBron. He left Cleveland for a reason, you can't get one gotta come that. You got to rely on Rich, Paul and club sports. You got rely on Anthony Davis getting traded. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the Los Angeles Clippers have a billionaire owner were twenty two billion dollars. Doc Rivers has done an exceptional job coaching this year. And oh, by the way, they're going to have enough cap space for two max players, not just one. This is not a good situation for the Los Angeles. When we talk about the Yankees and the medicine New York, I can't believe I'm about to say this if the Lakers don't get somebody the clippers will be. Yankees. LA Lakers would be. It was a remarkable. But I think very insightful thoughts from Steve there. And he had just spent all of us weeks, you know, in Los Angeles. It was sort of their gauging the scuttle, but I wanted to bring that back 'cause I wanted to hear your reaction to because no one is more plugged into all this stuff. And you are what did you think of what Steve set respectfully those all things I've been saying on this show for the last five months. So I'm not surprised that any way shape or form by what he said now, however, he did say something that was sorely knacker. Which is the clippers will never eclipsed the Lakers in Los Angeles. Just like the Mets will never eclipse the Yankees in New York state, and I don't get it. With don't get caught up in this hype of who's going to sign wear though Yankees in the Lakers are story his historic brands that transcend sports not is not going to change because a couple of I will say how women are that that that those historic brand cannot sit back on their laurels and count on the brain. Because look what is happening. The Yankees, obviously are taking care of business and there were World Series favorite this year. The Lakers are gonna miss the playoffs again this season. They've got let's just do with the Laurent part of this. You heard Stephen I said, okay is not going there. Wise not go in their New Orleans. I would rather do anything than trade Anthony Davis there. What are the Lakers going to be next year? We were doing this show and fees. It I started in October. I sat right here say LeBron has a better chance of getting in in Los Angeles. And he does of getting a championship. And nobody surprised to hear me say that because I've been saying all year he's going to have to add another all NBA caliber flare. Not this all star player in right now. It doesn't see that's landing coach which and what do you think? Do you think any of those guys want to go out there and play with LeBron? I think one of those players will land in LA, which one don't know whose name goes with his game. Are you talking about Kawai K D level? We'll I mentioned yesterday that LeBron play with any of those guys. I mean, he's proven that over the years. I understand what do they wanna play with? Him. Well, you know, I mean they've come out and say it a few players they didn't wanna play with him. But that can all change over the summer. What do you think? Jalen, that's really the question. Those guys not want to play with. So LeBron is getting a bad rap here. Kyra has already played with them. Understood get right. And they want to champion Leonard. Lebron James would be an unbelievable duo. And he they play for the story Lakers. As you said, why would why seem to have dismissed the idea of going to play because he because people forget LeBron going into a seventeen Kowa wants his own opportunity to lead a basketball team. Remember he was in San Antonio. But plan with Tim plan with mono plan with Tony Parker. So now being the guy Toronto they're the number one team one number top one of the top two teams in the east. So he doesn't need LeBron shadow. I get that. But the day they gave him the team in San Antonio. We couldn't get out of there fast enough. So I don't know what exactly it is. He wants. But I know he doesn't wanna play with the brand James. I can't find anyone who obviously wants to. And it's not just LeBron. The national media thinks everybody wants to play in the large market. Russell westbrook. James harden, Damara roles, Paul George. They're often California. None of them wanted to go play there. So I do think, however, if leaves the raptors he is with the clippers because they are on the come versus the Lakers were seems like they have a lot of these continue to work out feel like were yelling at each other. Can we? Candy show, you something that'll make smile. Yes. That's all watch Donovan Mitchell, shall we together. Watch the Donovan Mitchell crossover on New Orleans. No, well, Jaylen break this down. The big like about Donovan Mitchell. People sleep on his eye. He's playing in the NBA game. But a lot of time to see he's playing red ball. Like he's loose with it. He's always in the flow and got not designed. No, well, my goodness. That what is and I got another one for you ready. Remember, the hidden ball trick that we were growing up. Look this Tigers tiger's actually throw it. All anyone. Megie Megie me to see really the hidden ball trick. He just kind of faked rolling here. That'd be paying too. That's terrible. I should do that plant fast. Pitch tennis ball now moving along here back to the NFL where it was a very busy day legal tampering. Started fast yesterday. But despite all the action we still haven't seen a deal done for living on ballot sat out all of last year after not wanting to play for the Steelers on the franchise tag. So more on that. Let's bring in our NFL insider extraordinaire, the busiest man on planet earth. This week is Adam Schefter, shefty. Let's talk about the jets one team that have been rumored to be involved in the Levy on bell thing. But they're spending money like crazy defensive players, so far what does that mean? As far as their chances are going after on. Well means that they're in on Levy on right now. Greenie, they continue to go after them. Even with the fact that they have shelled out big money to Anthony Barr showed up big money to CJ Moseley shelled out big money to make this defense better. That's part of the plan year with the New York Jets. It does not preclude them from going after levian Bill at this. Point in time. The question is whether they can get a deal done with him. If they can Bill would then be on his way to the New York Jets. But that seems to be targeted. There's he's been talking to other teams. The jets have been trying to sift through it. But again, the jets have been getting defensive deals done as they continue to talk to Le vian bell to try to get something done with very quickly because loss ski, and I were talking about this the fact that we, you know, everyone knows that this legal tampering illegal tampering has been going on ready. Why has it Levy on bell gotten his deal done more quickly than this? What does it mean? It means. Here's the deal. He wants right now means that he's feeling the market. Listen, I think that in the first couple of days of free agency as you see deals fly off the shelves and when players sign right away. It tells you that they feel like they've got a deal that they can't pass up Livy on Dell. Levy on bell does not believe right now that he's a deal that he can't pass up. So that's why he hasn't sign when you see trim Brown go to the raiders on a record-breaking deal. Or CJ Mosey go to the jets Quantel exander to the forty hours. Those numbers in contracts that they can't pass up Levy, I'm Bill is not gotten that yet. Not in his own mind. He wants more than he's been offered. So far. And what what else have you got working for us this morning? I just something coming across give us the very Licey. You look down at your phone. There's nothing better than Adam Schefter looking at his phone during free agency. What do you have for us here? Well, Sheldon Richardson is going to go to the Cleveland Browns and three you deal and you look at the Cleveland Browns front line now greeny, and it's a force to be reckoned with. I mean, they've remade that front line and show them Richardson is line of defense attack on he's gonna play with the ends being alleviate Vernon in miles. Garin Cleveland has remade that defensive front to be one of the toughest front force in all of football show. The riches of big addition for the Cleveland Browns. It's a big loss for the Minnesota Vikings and the Browns just got better this morning now, shefty busiest can be we'll keep you on standby the moment. Anything else happens? We'll come back to you there. And again, we have full coverage all morning long, the Dan's Grazziano, and Lafayette, speaking of lofty, he's getting to give you up next to five destinations that he thinks make most sense for Levy on bell. Who was shefty just said clearly to this point. Has not gotten the offer. He wanted stay with us for that. And more. It's get up on ESPN. We are back on get off and Jalen road. If these Celtics now last night looking to finish sweep of a terrific road trip out west, but it wasn't to be slopping play all over the place, particularly from Kyrie Irving early. They've been in LA for a handful of days greenie, they played the Lakers and not playing the clippers could be considered at scheduling law. But you want to give a lot of critic clippers because they always play whatever kyri four turnovers in the first quarter Celtics down six later. Patrick Beverley more open is that's the improvement in his game. And this got a chance in the league because he was Taneja defendant ninety make something thirteen of the half. And then they just keep giving up wide. Open Landry Shamet you'll see and from both Hornets and his great deceived. Nilo Gallinari plant quality minutes. Healthy Shamet have been knocking down shot since they acquired Phyllis third quarter winding down clippers up sixteen. Make it nineteenth. They would shoot five of nine from three in the third. They were up sixteen go to the fourth quarter. Look at it put it away. And I wanna talk to you about Lou Williams because accomplish something significant gonna knock down that three twenty one. They gotta run away in high. They're going to win the game. But this Dr Williams will pass Dell Curry for most bench points in NBA history. We had thirty four last night of the clippers a big win. But how about that Balu? William it seems like he can continue to play a few more years. He found a role in a niche. He's terrific score from all spots on the floor. You get a shot off the dribble. And he deserves to be congratulated as the great moment. For him. Meantime, for the Celtics road trip does not end they way, they would've liked in fact, they give one hundred forty points most they've given I'm gonna game since April of ninety four sixty eight of them came in the paint tied for the second. Most Celtics allowed in game over the last twenty season. So it was not a great way to finish up this road trip for the Celtics. I want to show you what happened earlier in the day in an exclusive interview with Yahoo sports, Chris Hanes, Kyrie Irving, we've been talking a lot about this lately. Apologized for the way, he has. Been conducting himself with the media of light at and here is what he said he said the way I've handled things it hasn't been perfect. I've made a lot of mistakes that I take full responsibility for I have holidays. I haven't done it perfectly. I haven't said the right things all the time. I don't want to sit on a place. Like, I'm on a pedestal from anybody, I'm normal human being that makes mistakes for me. I think because of how fixated they wasn't trying to prove other people on. I gotta do a lot of habits that were bad like reading stuff and reacting emotionally. That's just not who. I am. Jalen, I want your reaction to this. I we've talked a lot about Kyrie. What did you make of that? He's young man. He's allowed to mature. This is first time being in a position of leadership on a team. That is expected to be a contender that has expectations. This is something that he asked for and I talked about that on this show. The can't get overlooked in this call is I've been reading things initially talked about the fact that when he went to the podium. He just seemed like he was miserable. Ascend exact same thing about. And that doesn't come from the sports media that count from social media. And so for him to acknowledge that I really respect Mike what's curious to hear your perspective on that. Well, again, I mean players have problems in the league. And I think a lot of has got to be aired out in the locker room is what I think amongst players, and coaches, you know, not to public, and, you know, we all got problems, you know, coaches have problems GM's is just how you handle. And I think he's gone about it in the wrong way at times, but he's a professional figuring out. I I would like candidly to applaud what he said. Yes, if I saw some people saying, oh, he's just been hearing criticism. So now, he's changing his tune. If we're not going to accept people apologizing if indeed an apology was even the appropriate thing here. Then what are we doing? I mean, he's not done anything awful. He's been behaving in a way that was less than becoming. I think he recognized that he seems to have. In some personal stock in that to me at least I thought he said all the right things yesterday. I commend him for what I do. And that's why we do and a distinction. There's the sports media that's going to cover your performance. You only have to deal with them before and after practice before. And after games, then is the I Gotcha type of media like TMZ that you can turn off then their social media that you can definitely turn off or block the people that you feel like giving you negative energy. So I appreciate the fact that he's having ownership me to whatever it is it happens from here. And I don't know how it's going to end in Boston. But I thought that yesterday was very well handled. Let me get you back to NFL free agency now because Levy unbalance we know is yet to sign with a team and yesterday he was on social media saying I'm so torn right now, I tried to hold those long as I could look back at how we got here with Levy Levy on bell sat out the entire season after refusing to sign his franchise tag joining game Williams and Sean Gilbert did ninety eight and ninety seven respectively. As the only players to sit out a season after being tagged for all the drama off the field. He's been brilliant on it averaged one hundred twenty nine yards from scrimmage per game in his career that is the best by any player in NFL history. And of course, he's had a lot of opportunities despite not playing a single down last year. He's still ranks third in the NFL and touches since he entered the league in twenty thirteen that's almost impossible to imagine. And Dan grassy on a you said it earlier this morning and then schefty said a little while ago as well. The fact that it doesn't have a deal yet means the huge long term contract. He wants has not come his way to this point. But it's still early. I mean, this is less than twenty four hours after that legal tampering window opened, and he could still find that deal or you could find a creative way to still get a good deal that wasn't the one. He gets later out here though. I if I'm him a little bit concerned with this. So we've given Orlovsky a little homework. Give me the top five places. You could see Levy on bell winding up. All right. Number five. This haven't heard this team. Here me out a lot of money. The Cleveland Browns. They've got a ton of cap space. And so you're looking at a team that found their quarterback and Baker Mayfield. And I go man if you you tag team Baker Mayfield and Jarvis Landry and enjoy coup with bell. Now, this becomes one of the most dynamic and almost indefensible offenses in all the NFL. They've got the cap space to do it. It would keep them in the division. They've got some talent on the roster. I know they've got job. And I know they do Johnson. And I know they have cream hunt. But if you have the chance to get a lady on bell, you've got the opportunity to financially go make your imagine and playing the Steelers twice a year. What's number four? Be a lot of fun. Number four. I'm gonna stay into division on the go. The Baltimore Ravens. They've made the commitment to play a certain brand or style of football with the Mark Jackson, which is going to be a lot of him running the football. I just think of that mesh point when he holds bowl out there and you on bells one of those incredibly patient Beck's. What do you do is defend or when you've got Lamar? Jackson holding football out there Levy on bell patient mesh that drawn up mesh that's going to recap on defenses. Ken, they work it out financially. But I look at that as a huge place or an opportunity for him to say it again, how about him playing the Steelers twice if that were to happen. Okay. Run Houston Texans. And everyone knows that. They've got a ton of offense ivine issues. They ask the Shawn Watson week after week to almost superman. So they have to fix those issues. Whether it's through a couple pieces of free agency or the draft. But inventions, you've got also help your quarterback that takes pressure off of him. And then it just be Andre Hopkins. That's the only guy that they have right now is hot it. So do they have the opportunity to leave your Bill that not only could take some some of the stress off of the quarterback run game wise, but also in the past game, right? Number two. Number two. Let's go with was my brain telling me because I forgot the Indianapolis Colts. Right. Coach their offense coordinator play caller loves to throw the ball to the backside of the backfield one of things that makes me on so special not just running back. He's a pass catch threat. So they do have some good vacs in Marlin MAC and times butts lady on is a guy that has had eighty catches before the season. So it's fit that scheme fit of going coach loves to utilize backs in a certain way, they've got t y Hilton as receiver. Let me get back that it's not only running threat buddy pass catching threat behind that dumb and offensive line. They've got the cap space to do it. I like them. They're the most cap space of any team in the league who does that leave it number one. Again, your team the New York Jets, I understand that the jets have massive offensive line issues. And so they should really look to trade to third pick. And maybe get some assets to improve that offensive line that is so bad, but they lack a running game. And so you're talking about a team that's lacking weapons for young quarterback lacking. People to get the ball to know running game receivers can't get open versus men coverage. Go get one of the most dynamic players that we've seen come to the NFL in many years later on bell again half the fixed the offensive line, and you can do that with the third pick. But if you have the opportunity to get him a little bit cheaper than maybe some it expected you have to look the jets have not had a superstar offensive playmakers since Curtis Martin in his prime when do you think from the informational standpoint? When will we hear on levian bell will happen today? Tomorrow. I don't think there's any real worry. I think one three and four or strong possibilities. I don't think the colts are going to do because they're not interested in doing right. They have it running back, and they're just not there. They have all that cafes. I don't think they're going to nuts like the jets are spending. This brings us to another really interesting inflection point in the NFL, Arizona. Let's talk about Josh Rosen. He had a very tough year last year we through eleven touchdowns and fourteen interceptions. Now there were rumors of the cardinals may be ready to move on from him after they hire cliff Kingsbury replacing him with Kyle Murray that feels like a possibility because Murray seems as though he'd be a better fit in kings, berries often. And here are the numbers on Roseanne last year the lowest QBR in the league, but it is probably arguable that no rookie could succeed in that offense. He was pressured thirty six percent of the time sacked ten percent of the time both of those in the top five month qualified quarterbacks. So let's say for the sake of this discussion, he didn't have a chance. Let me start with you on this thing, Dan is their smoke and fire here. Do you believe there's a real possibility Rosen gets traded away? There's a real possible. There's a lot of possibilities with their Zona. There's a possibility they take Murray number one trade rose is possibly they take Tyler Mary number one in keep rose. And if they don't get return for him that they like there's a possibility they don't take Marie number one and Rosen's their quarterback of the future. Arizona is in love with the. Fact that the league is confused about what it wants to do. They that's better for them. It increases the possibility. Someone comes to them with the creative and exciting offer for Josh Rosen who year ago was what? Tough to fix back and would rank among the very top quarterback to after. Absolutely tell us tell us about Josh Rosen. You can't go back last year and go, oh, there's no way to gauge a lot of quarterbacks would have struggled in that situation. That's why team do their due diligence. So look at this bad quarterbacks do this. He sees Thomas eyeing up the tight end this zone coverage. So Josh Rosen. Those aren't that guy. Receiver wise is dead. But I've got to give Bobby Wagner at all back to think that he still is alive that he is still a viable option watch. What he does to move that. Quickly to pump fake gets Bobby Wagner to jump that tight end. Even though Earl Thomas had him covered. And that opens it up for Larry FitzGerald. Listen bad quarterbacks. Don't do little things like that. They're just trying to figure out what's going on that that team in Arizona last year the worst offensive line. The worst run game a bottom ten defensive coach got fired any quarterback in the NFL was going to struggle there last year air, very absolutely I get it. I think a lot of people are so wear feels like a real possibility if they do want to trade him who is out there. If you need a quarterback of the future, if you're Washington if you're the giants if you're Miami three teams off the top of my head that could use a quarterback long-term, and you can get this guy for a second or third round pick a year after he was number ten overall. That's. To sure Kelly kid. The Rams are fighting the Rams for relevance. And they've got their their young quarterback. Can you get yours for second rounder? Can I throw another possibility into the into the pile on how about Bella check likes him as possibly to Brady smarts rate? He's gonna play six seven more years. So this guy's gonna already be on us is motivation Grady. We have our eyes on all of this, obviously as the NFL news continues to develop we will have it for here. And then off the top of the next hour. If you haven't seen it a truly ugly confrontation between Russell Westbrook fan and Utah. What does it mean? That's next on get.

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"The. Morning it is time to up with a kick of the. NFL. Mr Mom. Does it every which wife and a dominant performance and the figures game of the year meanwhile his counterparts What is it about Casey that has become Lamar Jackson's Kryptonite, and for the second consecutive day the unbeaten bears make an unsurprising announcement. What does this mean for the former number two pick? Those are the questions. We've got the answer on a jammed pack Tuesday get up on ESPN greeting Grazziano here in studio at the South Street Seaport and the football conversation is ready to roll. Let me show you the crew that I have standing by and ready to go jeff Saturday here on a Tuesday that big swaggie Marcus Spears Greg mcelroy is ready to go mark to share will join us in this hour as well. Look ahead to the baseball playoffs, but we start with the main event last night Marcus Spears by heavyweight matchup between the two champions we. Got Lamar Jackson Patrick mahomes youngest MVP matchup in NFL history their vote twenty five or younger and right off the Bat Mahomes says, yeah I know everyone talks about how the market run but he can run to you. Let me show you them wheels. Gee I did it all year in the playoffs. Got Us to the Super Bowl used leagues last week I use my legs I got linked to the mall and then look at how about the creativity up six three at the flip with any Sherman G I literally found out Anthony Sherman play for the chiefs. At the time this touchdown. Maybe the Ravens due to Baltimore didn't have much offense in this game swag who bought they did have this? Yes. World Class Speed Duval. Louis Riddick Greasy and lead talked about it before this happened, and he shows you why they put him back to return football ninety three yard touchdown ravens, Trim it to thirteen ten now, less than nine minutes left in the hat teams moving the football who you describe this one from home because I can't do home on g listen I'm better than y'all. Let's all. Let's say I'm better than everybody out here and I know it was Lamar Jackson and I. Know this game was all of that but I am Patrick Mahomes and let me just remind everybody that that that is just an incredible play and then later in the drive the. Chiefs in the scoring zone, and that is a perfect fast to tyreek Hill for a twenty yard touchdown puts that one directly on the money and so the chiefs opened a twenty, two, ten lead, and again, the Ravens had gotten their only score on the long run back now, less than two minutes left didn't have chiefs have it again and watch mahomes under pressure this what is forty nine yards to Hartman for the touchdown swag? Oh Oh no wink martindale blitz Patrick mahomes and every time he'd blitz them Patrick Mahomes did something like this. I'm going to drop back fifty yards to throw is seventy two guy that runs a four to. Twenty seven ten, and then Lamar. Jackson. On the ensuing possession trying to get something going and he cannot ravens held a thirty yards of offense in the first half after that first drive twenty-seven, Kansas City but Lamar trying to bring his team back early in the fourth it's twenty, seven thirteen, and then here's a touchdown to nick boil all of a sudden at twenty seven twenty. Do they have a little life for Patrick Mahomes says don't even think about it how about this one? So I go to the offensive tackle Eric Fisher I mean this has become a joke at this point you know what throw it to the day coach? Coach. Touchdown mahomes counting on his fingers he actually accounted for five touchdowns last night meanwhile, the Mark Jackson, it was not night to forget Lamar would throw for just ninety seven yards. mahomes would account for five total touchdowns. No contest in this heavyweight showdown Patrick and the chiefs win on Monday night. Though we had a good game plan coming in the guys who are ready to go. We understood this be a big game for later on in the season. So I'm proud of the Gosh rather play tonight. Team the hurdle of the chiefs where it seems like they are the one team that. I see a second-half eight just like I say always we always start cranking up at the wrong time we got to come in and finish how star we always go obviously I. Guess it is. For some reason we've gotta tighten up and played better. To try and describe what Patrick Mahomes has been in the month of September is extremely difficult to do for his career in the month of September. He's unbeaten. Here's a Qbr of ninety. That's maximum is one hundred and he's thrown thirty two touchdowns and zero interceptions. So those numbers aren't good. They are MVP caliber for just that month alone. So let me bring the rest of the crew in here Jeff Saturday what is your I thought this was so eagerly anticipated this game from a home to play the way he did let's start with him in the chiefs. What was your number one take away from them last night The, most complete team in football I'll say it again, the most complete team in football they absolutely dismantled the Baltimore Ravens and it wasn't even close and we're talking about how well Patrick Mahomes perform and that's absolutely true. But let's talk about their offense line. The Ravens blitzed them twenty one times. How many times would you touch Greenie? Zero. Flip it over to their defensive line Frank. Clark. Chris Jones. Absolutely bottled up this ravens offense. They gave up one special teams bloop other than that. This team completely dominated what everybody thought was going to be the AFC championship game. This was this was a beatdown of of of big proportions and I understand the Ravens did a lot to hurt themselves but that she's just like they were clicking on all cylinders again, most complete team in Football Greenie? Greg. Put together some tape to try and illustrate in some way just how spectacular mahomes that offense was last night. And Jeff said it most complete team in football but expands beyond the field. It expands the coaching staff the plan put together last night from Eric B enemy. The odds of coordinator and Andy Reid was masterful because they took advantage of how scared the ravens were of tyreek Hill from play number one in the ball game. Show little run to the right. Problem. Right. Even Chelsea's going that way out. That's a counter Chelsea's wheel and back around they hated the tyreek Hill and he's out the gate for a big play on the first play of the game. This force, the Ravens basically tens going to be a problem the night well, here is right here same exact except they handed off the Clyde Edwards alert look how many ravens running with Tyreek hill that's an absolute seem on. The right side, and then made me my favorite play designed to the because you're giving the fullback a little love what Tyreek Hill back in the spot at the point is running back you with a little loop, passes the right and look how many ravens are running out trying to jump into the flat jumping leverage. Oh hang on a second here I've thrown it sidearm throwing up. Now can throw an underhand mahomes doesn't this time to Sherman touchdown? This wasn't just about Patrick Mahomes and this incredible core of wide receivers because they are. There are incredible. This was about the mastery of understanding how to take advantage of defense is is and they did. So with the offensive planned, it was just truly magnificent start to finish. That's well done and there's something about watching them. I have no horse in the race whatsoever and I can't help but laugh as you watched the beauty of what they are doing offensively. So Swag. Your former defensive player if you're going to try and stop this group, what's the first thought in your mind? Bring, Back Ray Lewis, ery signed demarcus ware. Reggie White. Derail. And and and Dion Sanders listen. This is this is one of those dilemmas that's created g where you beat before the Game Start and Greg pointed it out when you already have when you identified the fear of the defense immediately, that's what you take advantage of the whole night outside of Patrick mahomes extending plays. We talked about the drop bag for the lone touchdown Emeco Hardiman down the. Field where he's just smart enough to buy a few extra seconds in order to get that passed off and very few can do it because his arm strength is there for his bag link for him to be able to push the ball downfield. Listen The Times that I saw the ravens have a bit of success was when they only rush four and I was beating that drum because wink martindale. To, defensive, coordinator for Raymond he wants to bring pressure. This was not the night to do it and we all know it. We talked about it before every Game Dole pressure pat. Mahomes. You gotta do every once in a while but your best bet is to have guys up front that can rush smart keep lane integrity and play seven and coverage. We saw the chargers have a bit of success. But everybody doesn't have Botha an ingram is just it is. It is a conundrum. You are all over the place a fire starting in the bedroom, and as soon as that won't go out one start in the kitchen and put the one in the kitchen out the one start at your neighbor's house. So it's just it's horrible man it's I'm watching the game last night and I feel terrible for. Coordinated has got face what Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes is doing and I'm the dumb one for picking the Ravens, thinking that they were going to be able to run the ball and get out in the lead early. I picked the ravens last night too, and we will set aside a bunch more time later in this hour to get specifically into the struggles, the ravens and their quarterback had last night but jeff Saturday here's the thing that is sticking in my head. I had so many people this week. Tell me the ravens built that defense specifically to try to stop Kansas City and the reason that they lost in the playoffs last year was they ran into the polar opposite. They ran into Tennessee who played totally different and the team was built to slow down Kansas City. So if Mahomes is going to put up five touchdowns against that now, what works? BUILT POORLY RIGHT GREEDY EMMY Is Right here if this is how you built it foundation wasn't set right now but but in all honesty what what swag and Greg just brought up this defense is chasing ghosts right we always talked about quarterbacks and seeing goes I think it was Darnold who said a few you know last year the year before about Alliston goes on. This is what the Kansas City chiefs defense is. You don't know which way to look I mean, why are there so many guys running wide open whether it's Kelsey Hardiman whether it's time you. GUYS GONNA run free because everybody's looking to see what can I one's playing fast and clean because there are so many different things to think about and again when you start building defenses, like you said, bringing in Wolf Callejas Campbell, they can rush for and get home but then you blitz it on top of that you of your game plan and that's the problem swaggie brought it gotta bring four entrust your defensive backfield and that's not what they did last night Greg quick final thought on this again, we will talk much more about the Raven side of this in about twenty minutes but Greg Quick Final thought on the chiefs of Mahomes last night. Just just remarkable and Mahomes is playing chess what everyone else play checkers y'all what he's doing at the line of scrimmage you mentioned rushing four well, can't get home with four because the ball's out. So quickly you mentioned blitzing he's adjusting protection he's finding one on ones he's buying. He is not just the most gifted athletically at the position in the NFL, but he is now entering the mix with the Brady's with the breezes of the world as far as this cerebral acumen the guy has an answer for everything you throw out him. So outside of putting to Aaron Donald on the field of defensive tackle, getting internal pass spirits and Jeff don't know how you disrupt the rhythm of what Pat Mahomes doing right now. But field it was a statement win. In every conceivable way we will leave that game for the moment but again, we'll come back and twenty minutes look at it from the other side where you Lamar and the Ravens go from here meanwhile around the NFL after leading the bears to a comeback win and Atlanta's Sunday Nick foles was officially named the team starting quarterback moving forward here was head coach Matt Nagy on the timing of that decision. If anything maybe there's just it's given him. It's given nick more time than just really more than anything maybe get to know his teammates and who who players are, what their strengths are in practice both Nick and Mitch have done a really good job at just trying to figure out. Okay. The identity of our offense and who we are and just support one another not not a whole lot will change will will continue to do whatever we need to do for this offense to make it as best as it can be. All right and so I referred to it as an unsurprising decision that was made for the second consecutive day what the insight into this? What do you hear out of Chicago which Chicago wanted to see was Mitchell trubisky showing what he shows in practice and taking it into a game. This has been a consistent problem throughout the years with him. He looks good in training camp. He looks like he's doing the things they want him to do in practice the game start, and he plays differently that showed up. In the first three games of the season they looked at it Sunday, said, look we've had enough. Let's see what else can do I'm not even sure they thought they were gonNA come back and win that game but they did and obviously after that happened, there was no question who was going to start next week. So a Greg McCoy let me come to you. It's not often that we see a quarterback benched on two and a football team. What does this decision happening when it did say to you? It tells me that there's a disconnect between GM and coaching staff. So therefore, if they had to make a decision about who their quarterback going to be moving forward, it had to happen in game because if you Actually Watch Mitch Trubisky and his performance on Sunday, it really wasn't anywhere near as bad as we've seen him at times over the past couple seasons. Frankly, it was actually relatively average compared to what we've seen from him and he's been atrocious at times. So it tells me that this was a premeditated move by Matt. Nagy staff saying, Hey, look we can't do it in the daily thing because there might be meddling from the front office. So what should we do? We'll do it on game day and hopefully hopefully hopefully, nick foles provide the support to our offense exactly what happened and he's going to be the guy moving forward. So what is the expectation now as we look at the situation Swaggie, where do you expect it to go from here with Foale's as the quarterback in Chicago and again the team? No one impressed but there are three and Two to two to said, it was premeditated when they signed nick foles damn off season. That's when it was premeditated. The second thing is when you look at what Nick foles did, that's exactly what needed to be done to validate what they already knew what was going to happen listen and I heard her talk about it and we've all heard it that nick fall I mean Mitchell, trubisky did. Tremendous job in camp and the players were responded to him but fellas though sometimes we just need to start believing who guys all like at some point and I get killed a lot for saying this guy is is not what you think he is this guys that and obviously you can have one also have great games in the fourth part where you throw three touchdowns but are you consistently Feeling great about Mitchell, trubisky being the started for the Chicago bears you Orlando to yourself and everybody else if you believe the answer today question is yes. So listen the Chicago bears new WHO Mitchell trubisky was. They wanted to give their first round guy one more shot like the titans the Marcus Mariota, and inevitably this will this is what was going to happen is Nick foles job going forward and they hope that he can take them where they need to go jeff Saturday quick thought. Yeah. No no surprise swag. You said they brought foles in to start. He starts he threw three passes over twenty yards in the fourth quarter trubisky through two and the Games into three games that he played in started. So that's what they were looking for completion percentage. It'll be much different at the end of the day. He's GonNa make bigger plays and that's who nagy wanted to play. That's what's going to happen but Dan Glaviano is not convinced at this move is permanent. Tell everybody what it is you said to me before there's nothing enfolds history that indicates he can start the remaining thirteen games without incident. He's had injuries. He's been benched for guys like case Keenum in the past bench for Trubisky a month ago. So look this isn't over I believe trubisky start more games for the bears this season it's all about foles is history and who he's shown us he is, and honestly like everybody wants to say it's the rest of the year and this is all set. It's Nick foles. If Nick, foles starts all thirteen remaining games for the bears this year, I will wear a bear costume on this show on live television. I promise you that you can hold me to it if he starts thirteen more games this year. Bear suit mark that tape eight, sixteen, Fifty on this day whatever today is Tuesday September. Dan Graziano in a bear suit and I want to. Stay with us. We have so much more football to come, but the baseball playoffs started today. Here we go. The Astros in twins get the postseason started with Minnesota looking to snap a sixteen game losing streak in the postseason the longest in Major League Baseball's postseason history elsewhere we got the white sox and the eighth both of those teams are looking for their first playoff series. Win In quite some time Chicago has won the series since the two thousand, five, hundred series while the as have lost six straight rounds so they get underway today of the wildcard series. WHO's as raises the only one between teams that met during the regular season at all the raise one, six of the ten meetings So again, that's a bit of an anomaly there and then Yankees Indians caps off tonight seven eastern about the pitching matchup Garrett Cole against Shane Bieber who captured the pitching triple crown, and clearly going to win this year's cy young and look who's ready to go Mark Shera is here to look ahead to this season and mark. I saw in the notes who are you picking to win this series between the Indians in the and? Green. My Yankee friends aren't going to like this I'm GonNa, go with the Indians and the reason is, is the Indians right handed pitching it starts Shane Bieber. Who is the best pitcher on the planet right now and Games two and three caress go and Zach Police Act. The Yankees have been so inconsistent this year, they might score ten runs in a game, but then gets shut out the next two when you face these Indian right handed starters and then finish off with Brad hand in the ninth inning. This Indians pitching staff could dominate the Yankees pitching and beyond Garrett Cole. The Yankees starters are very suspect. So I like the Indians in this series fascinating and guys we were going to do this off the market. We're not GONNA have time, but I did want to ask one more question, which is the last one that we had planned tax, and that is sixteen teams in this postseason is your sense that they will This is something that baseball will like that fans will like, and this is something that will become permanent rather than just a one year anomaly based upon the pandemic. This place look haunted. Don't think. So what about those two girls come stay with US He's truly frightening. Missing Godless Great Service with Geico you twenty four seven access to licensed agents. Thank you creepy girls to see her room Porco sleep in the car now. We'd switch today for twenty four, seven access to licensed agents. Does this place look haunted? I don't think. So what about those two creepy girls come stay with us that he's truly frightening. Fairly Siri. Missing Gyco Great Service with Geico you twenty four seven access to licensed agents. Thank you creepy girls to see our. Parking asleep in the car now. We'd switch today for twenty, four, seven access to licensed agents. What baseball and the players want and what the fans want are different. But I, think the fans are going to love this and I personally want to see expanded playoffs permanent. Most seasons one, hundred, sixty, two games is way too long and half of the teams are out of the playoff race by the all star game that's not healthy for the game we need to keep as many teams in the playoff race and one thing I would like to see though Greenie is that first round not be three games, not be best three, festive five and then every other series. Be. Best of seven I think the playoffs would be a lot more exciting and more teams and more fans would be interested. Now I agree and and I think this is one of those why aren't we doing this in the first place kind of moments potentially and so very got ten seconds who are we gonNA wind up the last team standing in the bubble who will be in the world series. Dodgers versus Indians and dodgers win at all. Listen to him. I tell him we need to do at quick you couldn't do it any quicker you're on the Mark Teixeira. Outstanding my man thank you as always enjoy the games. We've got them all coming your way today best to three wildcards with a trio of American league match ups on the way. Astros twins to eastern on ABC ON ESPN White Sox as at three eastern Yankees. Indian. Seven eastern on ESPN and the ESPN APP. All right. We're just getting started Lamar Jackson showing glimpses why he's the reigning MVP. But what one thing prevented him from winning last night we will show you what that one thing was and Dak Prescott had a huge game Sunday in Seattle but. Should that give the cowboys? Any pause? You'll hear one person say yes. So on the way we're just getting started up on ESPN. Get up is brought to you by Geico fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Time now for your morning wakeup call the cup was in the building in the hockey bubble last night. Wider. Right of the open net. TIMEX down. WHO has a? Talk. Beverage. The top about. Stolen jumps. Congratulations to the Tampa Bay lightning, they beat the stars to nothing in game six. They win the second Stanley Cup in franchise history. As, we continue why Lamar Jackson, struggle and Patrick mahomes dominate last night we will have answers to all those questions next you're watching get up on ESPN. We are back on get up. It was a memorable game on Monday night football, but it was a night to forget for Lamar, Jackson who was lost four times in the regular season as starting quarterback and as of last night three of those come against the chiefs the first came in just his fourth career start back in two thousand eighteen, and so perhaps you don't put too much stock into that one. The second one came last season down seventeen entering the fourth quarter, the Jackson able to wash her a few scoring drives made it close. But still another law says, the chiefs forced Lamar to throw a career high. Forty three times, and then last night Lamar Jackson arguably his worst game as a starter throwing for a career low ninety, seven yards, just three and a half yards and attempt another chiefs big halftime lead and another big city win. So going more in depth on yesterday's game blitz and pressure. A huge factor in deciding mahomes is numbers against the blitz seventeen twenty, one, two, hundred yards and three touchdowns Jackson not nearly that effective only fifty percent completion for just sixty five yards and so let me bring my quarterback back into the conversation here Greg, what did you see last night from Hell Lamar Jackson fared against the blitz. Well Greenie it's time it's time for Lamar. Jackson to take the next step in his development. No one's denying is up lettuce God given gifts but right now, his pre snap recognition is nowhere near where it needs to be, and this is where he really needs to grow look it's an all out presents thirteen fourteen you know that they're bringing heat and they just been so three plays in a row and Lamar Jackson draws back no plan does all I'm. Just going out athlete everybody you can't do that. The NFL can't do it turned fourteen conversely, let's look at the best in the business. Have all same exact situation fresher coming off the right side he knows it's overloaded. Look even points to his running back says, Hey, look to the right. We got heat coming off the right he recognizes what does he do? Five Times drips away from the pressures in the unblocked man and delivers a strike the best players in. The position know that when pressure comes, that's when you take advantage of it. Peyton manning used to quite literally cheer when he got all out pressured Lamar Jackson still at this point has not taken that step in recognizing the pressure making an audible making an adjustment and trying to take advantage of that aggressiveness from the defense and he has to do it because if he's going to now enter the fold with some of the best at the position to maybe do. It in quite some time that's where he's not quite there. So I I'd love to see it happen but I haven't seen anything to suggest. It's going to here in the near future a great illustration of the issue and Jeff Saturday to pick up on that point you were saying in our meeting this morning one of the issues not the only. But one of the issues is the way the Ravens are built they're really not built to be in that circumstance. Yeah, they're not built to play from behind. You know if you if you look at Lamar Jackson and what they're expected to do, they want to jump up on you with a lead right. They WanNa beat you up physically they wanNA play that style of football when they're playing from behind and they're having to drop back and the defense continue their ears back there at a significant disadvantage I mean if you think about Lamar Jackson last night, you saw the frustration right? Because to Greg's point he wants to make plays right He. Wants to get outside the pocket, he wants to make things happening once gas to come up on the back end. But right now with that offense, the way they've rolled especially last year with all of his numbers, he never had the opportunity to really drop back into that portion of his game. So it's hindered him a bit and to Greg's point he's got to pick it up if you want to compete against the best of the best in the NFL right now. So I so I have been accused of being a F- way. I'm sorry. What is that? FACE THEIR MARKETS? What are we saying here? G. Do. You not remember when I said Lamar need to run less and everybody killed me. I I remember it. Well, she's. These two guys actually own that show. All right. So you're telling me that you're telling me that you wanted him to drop back and throw the way. He was seeing the field last night spears you're good with him throwing the ball more the. Well. Last night was uses legs. He is the point I made was Lamar. Jackson will not win these games if the Ravens don't develop him as a passer that was the point I was making we get a look. This is a good to great scenario we talking about if the Baltimore Ravens are going to super, bowl and Lamar Jackson is going to continue to sin he's going to have to operate from the pocket. I'm not disagreeing with you that it was bad my point for saying that Damn Near. Two months ago was because of Dame's like this because you have to be able to do this against the guy that's on the other side we talked about it. Lamar. Jackson said I'm not playing Patrick. Mahomes. I'm playing their defense. No, you're playing Patrick Mahomes because nine times out of did he's going to take a lead and dictate what you have to do offensively to win the game to get back in the game we talked about it last year in the Super Bowl. Do. You believe in Jimmy Garoppolo. I don't know Jimmy Garoppolo head is opportunity to manual saying this he missed the pays does Patrick mahomes missed that pass? No Lamar Jackson. If he's going to win the Super Bowl, we talked about his talent we know he can throw the football I said the Raven's need to make sure they put an emphasis Lamar Jackson throwing from Nepal into Jeff Point. They gotTA build their office. They gotTA spread it out a little bit more they gotta. Continue to progress him and build that confidence they been. They'd been drunk on success of Heaven, everybody tight to learn scrimmage being able to run these exotic type run situations sin to people out in route and they wide open because everybody's concerned about the run we'll guess you ain't going to be concerned about it the chiefs why 'cause Patrick Mahomes GonNa put up a forty burger usually on any defense especially, the ones that blitzer lot I rest my case why that's extraordinarily well done. May I if I may just a quick clap for that and we're GONNA, come back to this off the top of the next hour because there are so many questions that thought just brought into my mind we will have much more on this game night coming up off the top of our next hour. Meanwhile Dan Grazziano let us run the hurry up through some news and notes around the NFL and it begins with a struggling team to Houston Texans maybe to get some. Health Yeah Veterans Safety Earl Thomas in Houston visiting with the Texans likely to sign Adam Schefter reported yesterday we'll see how it goes. He's got to go through Cova testing protocols before that can become official Texans are all in three they need help in a lot of areas they're hoping that veteran. Thomas. Can help provide some of that on the back end of the defense some injury updates Chris Gardner the fucking nears come back from his concussion for this game. Let the game. With a hamstring injury early indications are they. He'll probably have to miss a game or two they're waiting for MRI result from yesterday before they have a full prognosis but it sounds like Tom Brady could be without one of his top receivers for another game or two Chris Godwin is DC limping off the field on Sunday and then if you talking injury updates, you've gotta talk about the forty niners. They were down nine starters on Sunday still beat the giants by twenty seven. Points the hope is they can get some of these guys back this week Jimmy Garoppolo they're going to try and see if they can get him on the practice field tomorrow or Thursday George Kill. The hope is he can come back to practice and maybe play this week against the Eagles and Deebo Samuel been out since training camp with a foot injury eligible for the first time to return from injured reserve in practice this week, it's not out of the question the niners have. Up Sunday as well, it's remarkable and obviously very telling that they were as banged up as they were, and they still beat the giants thirty six to nine on Sunday. Meanwhile, let's talk about what I think was the game all things considered over the weekend and that was Dallas and Seattle and that Prescott threw for four hundred, seventy, two yards led to go ahead. Dr Late in the fourth quarter ultimately team fell short are Ryan Clark yesterday sitting right here. So it has a missed opportunity listen to this. This is a bollywood. This game was about was Dak Prescott, having an opportunity to give his agent a sheet that said, you know what I went toe-to-toe. Russell. Wilson with a bad team and I beat him and I made the plays at the end of the game to walk off victorious and he didn't do that and I know we're saying he has to play perfect. But isn't that what they've been asking for isn't that why he didn't get his money I'm not saying he don't deserve money but this was a week to make plain clear that he was that guy. I raised a lot of eyebrows when he said that Marcus Spears, what's your reaction to what your buddy are said there this is not a referendum on deck. We need to believe what the Hell we see listen DAK threw two interceptions. Yes. That's a mistake. Every damn quarterback throws interceptions. The gray was with Rome. The bottom line is this when last walked off the field before Russell Wilson got the ball he had a lead he put his team in a position to win the game. At some point, we have to hold the people responsible listen I am not a deck. Apologised G I have said on your show and say the reason why that isn't getting paid the money he's asking for or being offered. The money he's as is because this question lies out here if e can lead us to where we are trying to go and that's the Super, bowl? Yes he can't that has proven that to me he's proven it to a Lotta people. Bottom line is we need the believe what we see that walked out to feel thirty one points on the board more than the Seattle seahawks and he had a defense go out there and couldn't stop. Jeff I think what Marcus is basically saying the problem in Dallas is that defense stinks is that something they can overcome. I don't think it is because you're going to do exactly what you just said. DAX. Going to give you the lead. The defense can't hold it. It presents problems and I completely agree with what Swaggie said your offense is producing by the way you can talk all you want about deck. He had a bunch of drops in that same game from from Zeki, different players, flip it over when you give them the lead it's like Dallas didn't have a plan of what they were going to do with Russell. Wilson. They got early pressure in the game with their front four, but they continue to rush him. Greg Olson's making plays in the middle of feeling afford three. I don't understand it right? You weren't getting home. The guys were tired need back them off maybe rush to drop nine rush three dropping whatever your plan is to keep him pinned in the box because ultimately you allowed Russell Wilson do what you? WanNa. Do and that's the ball over the top. The Dallas cowboys are severely hurt or they are hurting themselves in games like this and debt can't overcome that poor of defensive play. One last thing. And do we not realise Zach Morton was playing tackle. All these guys missing on this offensive line and he? Has An opportunity to win that game? I'm sorry four, hundred, seventy, two yards, and one of the thing Dan Grazziano wanted to remind everyone. Dak. Prescott beat Russell Wilson Playoff game are see I love him but he's just data quarantine maybe he doesn't have his game. Tomorrow. Have to prove anything they did try to offer Russell Wilson money they just couldn't come to agreement on the years. Dak. Prescott is not the Problem Dallas Yeah Okay we'll see and our see we'll see we all we all know his twitter feed has always worthy of monitoring. Let's see if he has a response as we continue meanwhile, we have much more to do in this hour drew brees. The Saints are one and two Jeff Saturday knows the reason why and you don't want to miss it. That's coming up next watching get up on ESPN. We are back I get up during what is one of the busiest sports weeks of the year and this news yesterday are Adrian Origin Hausky reporting the Clippers and Doc rivers have parted ways after a disappointing postseason exit for the clips they lose to the nuggets after having a three one lead and look who is back out of the bubble and back in our studio for the first time as well. It's great to see you here. This one I will say by surprise when I saw, you posted on twitter yesterday. What was behind this? Why did this happen yesterday? Blowing a three, one lead to Denver and the conference semi finals I mean. Not as simple as that but this is an owner Steve bomber, who is this is this is a win now team certainly with the clippers, he was not willing to run this thing back next year without some dramatic change and started with Doc rivers yesterday night fascinating to me, and so doc do we know quickly before we get to the replacement here because this is the glamour team do we know what his next step might be here? I communicated with him last night he still wants to coach There's certainly some jobs out there available that I think he could have a conversation with if he decides to potentially Philadelphia New Orleans the two best jobs in terms of being able to have playoff teams of affiliate pretty far down the road Mike Dantonio Tie Lou the Clippers Assistant New Orleans search is a little earlier stage but docs going to have. A lot of options he can sit back and wait for what feels right to him. That's fascinating to me that whole thing is fascinating but then of course, the clippers as you just said as built now, championship team. So who was the likely are who are the likely suspects if you will the clips agree at the top of the list right now is High Lou who was doc rivers top assistant this past year. Won a championship obviously in Cleveland went to the finals. Multiple Times. Made a great impression. In Los Angeles with that group this year, there's relationships with those players and a coach kind of checks all the boxes potentially for the clippers you know has been in the media spotlight understands the glare of that having coach Lebron, Cleveland tactically very strong. Tough leader. He's a coach who's not afraid of confrontation. He showed that in Cleveland and I think listen whether it's Philadelphia again, New Orleans but but the clippers for him, this is a former laker champion as a player. His job. Now, there's going to be a search, but I would say he's in a very strong position right now he's going to get a very close look from Lawrence Frank Steve Bomber. May Up Management and ownership. Okay. We'll see there's a lot of these huge names being floated out there. But overwhelmingly, the likeliest scenario were saying here is tyler it is great to see you great to have careening enjoy the finals they begin tomorrow night it's just a remarkable time. All right. What would with us here back to the football we're GONNA do some on the clock here and I got my crew Greg I still think of you as an sec guy sometimes and I was watching what Mike Leach and his offense did over the weekend with over six hundred yards passing. So here's my question to you. Forty five seconds is Mike Leach about to take over the SEC with this offense go. Well to be exciting and to take over two very different things. Greeny. You can make a case that caging Costello is quarterback is a transfer from Stanford who at one point in his career was being referred to as the next. Andrew Love. Can make a case that. Might actually be the most talented quarterback Mike Leach's ever coach that includes Gardner. Men Shoes that foods Graham Harrell. So I am very very bullish of what Mississippi state might do as far as putting up offensive numbers but will it work against the likes of lsu or against Alabama against Florida it did against Lsu because with all due respect to your man spears and RC, and all these go tiger. Lsu is a disaster right now they can't score with consistency in their defense has a lot of holes. So I'm excited but I'm not going to get too carried away that left is the look of a man whose defense just gave up six. Yards passing. Game of the year meanwhile. You on the next one and it is kind of serious know this one is is important to you. That was a hit in the game between the cowboys Seahawks trysted Hill on Chris Carson has gotten a lot of attention. What did you think of this play? Gio was terrible. Listen I talk about you've heard me talk about a cold in the NFL at all times and you guys are playing harding. You have the nominees that that do those things like this and have these situations. It's absolutely horrible. This is what you know that you're all of these guys out here are responsible for taking care of somebody there is there should be no intention to hurt anyone. This is so extra enroll and against what we consider a cold to be in the NFL to protect the guys that you're playing against in in the right way tackling hitting. Hard. All of that appointed a game that is horrible and I will never be on television and not call those type of things out as long as I'm doing his job. Now, I'm glad that you said that Pete Carroll was said he was quite upset about it as well. A lot of attention being given to that we'll see if there is league reaction meanwhile, one more forty-five seconds on the clock. Just Saturday. This is for you the New Orleans saints struggling their legendary quarterback drew brees off to a rough start. What are you seeing in breeze forty, five seconds go Yeah. He's playing scared. Green I mean you you look at the at the style of play the saints are accustomed to. He won't pull the trigger. He does not want to drive the ball down the field and you can see it he's he's he's pumps continues to fake and not, and he wants to check down. The number you see on a stat sheet commended made it look like a hero right to big runs laterally short passes to make make things get touchdowns when you look at this team though it's like he's so steered to make a mistake driving the ball down the field, the east playing by himself and it in the day. If you're going to go down, you want to go down in the blaze of glory like let breeze just leave it all on a field man at the end of the day you've got a hall of fame career nothing else you can do but you can't go and hide back there. You gotta go play full on a and given the best opportunity to win. The certainly been a lot of attention grassy on and what are you hearing out of New Orleans a little quick to pull the plug on breeze. At this point he's dropping back from center is not finding the receiver he trusts most Michael Thomas caught one hundred and forty nine passes league-record last year he hasn't played the last two games. So until he gets back I think it's difficult to judge breeze arm strength. Wise. The Scouts you talk to say it. Doesn't look any different from last year the year before he's never had a canon of an arm but the idea is that once Thomas is back in the teams to get in sync. I mean they lead the League in penalty yardage with three hundred and thirty one through three weeks. That's a far bigger problem for them at this point then drew brees is so I think it's it's a little soon regardless of what marcus is sitting there staring. Off The Breeze Bandwagon Marcus Spears lead until we leads the league extraordinary reaction shots so Your thoughts? Gross. To, death man, I know I'm with Jeff set. How. Much how much money drew brees making this year? He's making a lot I mean. I. Could. Not playing yeah he's not playing well. He ahead, Michael Thomas his whole career. Drew brees is not playing. Can we leave it at that grass? Can we bring you my? We don't have a show Aaron Rodgers. Played. Davante Adams. Yes. He did come on man. Let's listen drew brees not playing well, America. That's it. Thank you jeff Saturday for making their point three games, three games and let me say this. Three you look at drew brees he he's twenty eighth in the League in accuracy, and that's after adjusting the length of his passed last year. He was for I mean it's not just hasn't do with arm strength. It's are you willing to take the chance like at some point you have to stretch the field I don't care if Micheal Thomas does come back if he. Catches a bunch of check down. Charlie's all day is going to be tough for the saints to win brees has to play better. That's the bottom line I. Love Him, but he's got to play better the point is there some concern that the absence of any one player as good a player and is important that players it is has looking quite this different it's early. In the season, the teams, a mess committing penalties left, and right. The best player isn't on the field. It's too early to panic fair enough. But that doesn't mean that we won't. We'll take a quick break. 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"And Good morning it is time to get up with baseball a last ditch effort to save a shortened season. Is this the last chance for the sport this summer plus we are one hundred days to the start of the NFL season and I've got the picks including MVP Super Bowl and the one team that could go sixteen an hour, plus did you know? Know One of the best quarterbacks in the NFL isn't in the NFL. Our general manager as a scouting report, you need to hear as we get up with you starting right now and a good morning to all of you. Watching Korea baseball I am Mike Greenberg. We are in Bristol morning and get up. We have a very busy day filled with A. A lot of news from around the world is sports to bring you here. You've been watching baseball from the other side of the world. Let's bring you some a little closer to home. Major League Baseball has discussed the possibility of shortening this season to around fifty games and paying players. They're full pro rated salaries. However, sources say the League views this plan. Plan as a last resort and does not intend to propose it to the players. We need to understand what it all means and here we have the people to help us with that Jeff. Passan are insider and our buddy doug. GLANVILLE IS WITH US Jeff I'll start with you. What is the lead trying to do by bringing up this fifty game season? I think the League Greenie is trying to force the players to come somewhere into the middle, because let's remember the original proposal from Major. League baseball was for eighty two games and a huge salary cut. That was significant particularly at the top end, the players came back with a hundred fourteen game schedule. And no pay cuts for pro rata. Both of those propositions were on like polar opposite ends, and frankly neither was particularly realistic and so what MLB trying to do here by talking about the fifty game season is to push the parties somewhere into the middle. That's the hopes of this, but Rob Manfred That he has the right because of a March, twenty sixth agreement to unilaterally impose a schedule of his desirous length and fifty games would really go far for the owners who want to play fewer games so if I'm a baseball fan, I'm sitting here I'm listening and I'm just wondering. What does it all mean, Jeff what does put this into English? A baseball fan can understand the take the negotiating language out of it. What does it mean? Are we working towards something? Getting resolved at how quickly? Major, League Baseball wants to play baseball this year. The players want to play baseball this year. They need to stop both being stubborn and giving up the summer months, and all the advantage that they have and come somewhere in the middle and find an agreement. That's essentially what this is crazy. That's the purpose of this. This fifty game schedule is a cudgel that is being used to push the players off of their position and look. The players have been stubborn. The owners have been stubborn. Everybody's been stubborn here. So this is the thing I think that ultimately will get that moving now. Will it get the moving in the right direction that is what remains to be seen Doug, Glanville? Let me bring you in here. Obviously is a longtime player yourself you understand. How tight knit that union is, and so you probably have a good sense of what conversations are going on there. What do what would you like to see if someone called you up and said Doug? You're now the commissioner of the world, and you could just sort of make this thing. Work the way you think it works best. How would you do it? I mean think about the player perspective on this for a second the when you consider that being in the middle, you know if you have this half season right eighty two games roughly. Progress off of fifty clearly, and the idea is more focused on the structure of it right so if you're getting because before we got to this point whereas prorated based on your salary, you're at a place where you're getting thirty cents on the dollar seventy so now if you're getting something that's related exactly to your salary on a game basis. That's a structure you can build on because you have to look at the bigger wind down the road. Once you get past twenty twenty and look towards twenty one and. And they both need to Kinda get in that vision that they'll have another opportunity to get out this next season next year. It's really important for multiple reasons why they need to get on the field now so big picture looking beyond the sport in a in a sort of societal level, and then just like crunch the numbers, but the players have that part where they're getting pro rated salaries. That's a huge victory, structurally wise number of games to be determined, but I don't think that's as material as structure. Here's what I WANNA. Do I WANNA? Stop talking about the money for a minute because I think the baseball fans don't WanNA. Hear that Doug. Let me ask you this. How many games do they have to play in your mind as a player for this to be a season of substance of consequence, because if someone asked me the question this morning, I don't know the answer if they play a fifty game season in someone hits four hundred. Does it count as he now? The first person hit four hundred since Ted Williams did it. How to answer that question? How many games do they have to play Doug? Glanville for it to be a season that that should be recognized and taken seriously. And this is unprecedented time, so it doesn't matter as many as you can play. That's what they're going to negotiate for. And you hit four hundred. You hit four hundred. I mean you could put the Asterix next to it. But that's history and there is a strength seat in nineteen eighty-one split season. You know these are the circumstances by which you're under, and and so of course we recognize that there could be some rookie hit thirty home runs in a fifty game schedule, and this guy is going to be Babe Ruth for season. So if you live to fight another day twenty twenty one then we'll see what happens on a full season. Just for fun I'm going to ask you that question. Jeff, passing, because it seems more fun than talking about these people trying to figure out how to divide up all of their money. Fast forward this to the end of a fifty game season, and you are on this show, and we are having this conversation about whether a four hundred someone hitting four hundred fifty game season should be placed alongside Ted, Williams and all the other. Which side of that argument will you fall on? I will fall on the. No, it's a fifty game season. It doesn't count and and here's why greening. Let's look back at the first fifty games of last season. Do you remember what The Washington nationals? Who by the way ended up? Being world champions record was after fifty games last year was nineteen and thirty one. The nationals would not have been anywhere close to the play offs and in baseball. The ideas you know the season tends to stabilize right around the halfway mark like halfway of a full one hundred sixty two games. That's when we get a sense of what teams are who they are. who players aren't a particular year now, someone? Someone could hit four hundred and it would be awesome, and it would be great to see, but it would not be Ted Williams. Did you see that note? By the way from Hembo? Popped up there like clockwork once every hundred and forty years they play one of these very short seasons in Major League Baseball. Let's see where it winds up anyway I. Just find this more fun than talking about the money. Jeff stay on this for us and we will continue to follow it obviously as we go meanwhile to change the topic completely. Things. That are going on around us in the world and the connection, they have to the world of sports the death of George. Floyd has sparked reaction all across our world sports including from Boxer Floyd Mayweather. WHO has offered to pay for the funeral service and offer that's been accepted by the family. The National Basketball Coaches Association has announced its established a committee. Committee on Racial Justice and Reform Gregg Popovich and Steve. Kerr are among the coaches on the committee so as Monty Williams. He will join us live a little later this morning and add trae young to the list of NBA players speaking at protests around the nation. He was part of what young had to say a protest in his hometown of Norman Oklahoma. No. Countries in place right now. For me. I think it's important that. We all stayed together. We stand up for what's right. And it's not gonNA take just means. You all of us come together and doing his collective unit. And I feel like justice as we'll be saved. And changed will be made if we all come together, this is. This is doing it. This is the first step. Tiger Woods also releasing a statement on twitter last night, and here's what he wrote. My heart goes out to George Floyd his loved ones and all of us who were hurting right now. I have always had the utmost respect for our law enforcement. They trained so diligently to understand how when and where to use force. This shocking tragedy clearly crossed. That line I remember. The La Riots learned that education is the best path forward. We can make our points without burning the very neighborhoods that we live in i. hope that through constructive honest conversations we can build a safer unified society, and so I can Doug Glanville with me. Me This morning and Ryan Clark joins us here as well are seen good morning and I want to start with. You Ryan if I can I, you and I have been having these conversations that feels like now for a very long time. I remember a day four years ago when you came on my old show, Mike and Mike, and you were wearing a Colin Kaepernick Jersey and I remember a lot of the reaction that ensued from that that you had to hear, and we did everything else and here we are four years later. It all feels very different now and I wonder what your thoughts are in that context. You know I think I think. The conversations have been different. This time I know for sure. My phone has has rain in my text. Messages have beeped with non-blacks reaching out to me. You know to let me know that they're listening to let me know that. They're a part of trying to find a solution or at least part of caring. It definitely makes me wonder why you know why now Eric Garner. He could. He couldn't breathe either. You know Brianna Taylor. She wasn't even in a position to defend herself in her own home, and so whereas you are. I guess. Excited or lease sort of starting to feel a little comfort. In the fact that other people are listening I think it's still extremely extremely difficult I'm no longer angry. I'm no longer mad. I'm just disappointed. say it's heavy. And, so now I think it's about trying to find a solution moving forward about people actually listening and putting those things that they learn into action. Know I grew up in new. Orleans I grew up in the south. I was a nineteen year old black kid who had a child with a white woman. You know and that family seem to love me. They love the fact that I play ball. And that was I was extremely intelligent, but I remember the first conversation. Once we found out, we were having this child. I was no longer this great athlete. I was no longer this straight. A student I was the N. Word from down the street who played football wouldn't take care of his child. I remember two years later, going to pick up Jaden from grandparents house her grandfather, running bathroom to apologize to me because he didn't know and if he'd never, he pass shortly after, but if he never had that experience with me to him, black people were never good enough to be a part of their families. See I was good enough to live down the street, and I was good enough to watch play ball, but I wasn't good enough to be. Be a part of their family. And now we're moving on and raising this child in the House with my African American wife, my other two children. They're all the same to me. I treat them all the exact same way. My daughter being half of something that I'm not doesn't keep me from loving her. You know and that's what we want from America right? The fact that we're different shouldn't keep you from loving us, and that's kind of what we've. We've seen and I. Don't know because the act was just so nonchalant so heinous so uncaring because there was no part of that man of offer show van that seem slightly sympathetic empathetic that even care about the person. He was kneeling, going and taking his breath. Maybe that's why people spoke up or maybe because Carson, Winston Zach. Ertz said something now. White people feel it's okay to reach out, and it's hard to raise a child into have my son. Son when he gets his license, he ran a stop sign. You see this, said he wrote through and didn't necessarily punish him or get mad at him. I was like gotta drive bed then he got pulled over for speeding and I. Remember my wife being so mad at me like Ryan. You got to do more. You need to punish them. You need to get on and need to do this and I was like well why he's just driving, but. Because every time they pulled him over. That's another opportunity. They get to shoot him. And you know if they shoot him, nobody fix it and that he'll never be back. And that's every single day. And whereas I am excited that people actually care this time I hate that we're tearing down our own communities. I hate there were tearing down our own stuff I hate that we are not working to build instead of destroy, but at least they're listening. And also wonder we. We have all this systematic outrageous institutional outrage, which is not run by us right like when I got opportunity to talk this morning I was told. Don't say this, or you can't say that, or it's cool to be in this place, but you came here because we don't make no rules. We don't make the rules so when you don't make the rules. You can't make the change and so we're talking about everybody's what can we do? What can we do? You gotTa vote. You gotta be different. You GotTa Act Different. You got treat people different. You gotTa love differently. You gotTA. Teach differently and with people are mad. Have Ar fifteen to capital in Michigan because they can't go to salons, and because they can't go to beaches and because they can't do these things. They feel like they are entitled to Fricken do. But there's no outrage because we tear it on the confederate passed in Charlottesville Virginia and there's outrage and there's a. where's the systematic outrage? Where's the institutional? What rubber frigging bullets bay dare. And so, we want change. We got to change how we deal with. You can't tell us how grieve you can't tell us that you can be mad, but you can't be that bad because you ain't dying. And so when I do feel better that people are listening still late better for us. And when you hear if you don't like it, go back to your country is my fricking country. I was born it. Lj's and Liens Louisiana. The USA and it's not that we don't love it here. I love a lot of things that I could like better if they were different. So. I am encouraged that people are listening I am. I do feel like there's some validation. In many things that I've said that I felt. That I've protested against many times. I reached out in the community to try to change. I just hope that now moving forward. The next thing is in black. People shouldn't do this. Why are you so angry? Hopefully now since they are listening since you tell me you're listening, you listened enough to know why we're so pissed off. Thank you for that Doug you sent some notes and and I saw in them that you sent a quote from Nelson Mandela. That I will read here. Mandela said sport has the power to change the world that has the power to inspire. It has the power to unite people in a way that little else does. Why were you thinking about that? And and what are your thoughts today? I thought about the fact that mentioned Nelson Mandela set the tone under a system of apartheid and still remain positive, still found a way to work within a system and to create a system to try to bring people together, and he and sport became central to that mission. So when you think about experience of my story as Ryan says. I was exposed to police early in my life. It, my father was a psychiatrist and part of his practice was working with law enforcement, so understood early on the stresses and struggles. They went through. And within that. There was a time where my summer league baseball team was coached by volunteer police officer from my hometown. Those players on that team including the son of that officer became. Officers in their own right some of which have retired recently. And so exposure and intimacy matters because to speak to Ryan when you don't have an opportunity to share space with each other. You don't have this chance to really see people in this humanizing. Then, of course you're going to rely on your biopsies because you're living in the segregated world, you don't have that. Access and sports has a tendency to break some of that down. Just like in baseball with Spring Training. There's people from all over the world coming together, and so when you have exposure where you're not just dealing with policing in an occupied force, which is unfortunately a lot of our cities in America, but you see it in a chance that you're working towards a common goal and you understand that we're all experiencing. Things in this sort of common area that does make a difference. And so when my father treated these officers and all the stresses they were experiencing eventually on two thousand to the last game of the season. My father passed away. And so we had the funeral in my hometown of Teaneck and my colleagues, my former teammates all showed up in full police attire to pay their respects, and in that room are members of the Philadelphia Phillies the front office. It was the kaleidoscope of people, but most importantly we were together as one family, and they gave my father a police escort to the burial site to sort of bring us all into this one space out of respect, and so I have a privilege of being able to see the potential of how we can be together work together. We can humanize each other because when you see someone as a human as an. An equal, you're not gonNA sit on his neck and choke him out till he's gone. You're going to have that pause to say wait a minute. This is a father, a brother. This is American this. We would connect the dots. Better and sports could have a rule in that, and it certainly had a role in my life, so we have a lot of work to do because you know. As Ryan said, we've watched scenarios where a black person doing something mundane not only is met with deadly force, but the fact that people are willing to call the police just because you're suspicious and when you walk around the world where you're. You're always fitting. The description there always fitting some description whether it's on a police blotter from crime in the next neighboring town, whether it's in the imagination of what society has reinforced about who we are, and why we're constantly a threat, and so you're not GonNa fix it by having Koumba and having know flag-waving tournaments, and we're going to have to figure out how to get it. Those institutions that reinforce those attitudes, and by the way when people have the privilege of having a ninety yard head start. You can't say starting today. We're going to have a neutral policy and we're GONNA. Go from zero because someone has already had this huge. Huge advantage, and so you have to unpack a lot of things, and then rebuilt things, but as Ryan said you have to do it together, because you're not GonNa fix law enforcement and address it without bringing law enforcement to the table, and therefore you have to understand each other. Connecticut is a good example because they're police council that sets policy. The trains officers that have academies. It is a so billion also included organization they do work with law, enforcement and civilians, and you have to listen when people are talking so hopefully. More people are listening, but I'm afraid that once we get on the other side and maybe this officer is. Arrested again, you know put under the jail. Whatever happens to him that we don't go back to say hey, you know what? You know it's all done. We're post. Racial punishment fit the crime, and now we're fixed it. It's GonNa take a lot more than that and an only time will tell. These conversations are very important and I'm glad that we can have them. I also know that these feelings. It very personal I. Thank you both for being willing to share them here. I'll take a short time out. We'll come back. We have a good deal of sports on the program to get his morning including today as one hundred days until the opening kickoff in the NFL. We'll talk about these two legends in which one has a huge edge. That's next. On ESPN. For businesses around the world today isn't a restart. Thing that's why they're partnering with IBM to Change. From supply chains to customer service, let's put smart to work visit IBM. Dot Com slash smart to learn more. It could be a routine drive to pick up the kids after school or an epic road trip across the country. No matter where your travels take you. We know those miles counts. We're marathon. 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A single season rushing record for a quarterback as well and the reigning Super Bowl champion Kansas City chiefs looked to be the first back-to-back Champs in fifteen years. They opened up on Thursday night in week. One against the Texans and Ryan Clark continues with us this morning, and we're joined by Mike Tannenbaum and Dan Grazziano I want to take a look at one of the story lines, but each of you may find to be the most interesting and important in our CIO will start with you. What is the one thing you will have your eye on most closely when they start this thing in one hundred days? Is The new stamp of the new. Hey, coaches in NFL their teams. If you look at Matt Rule Gioja Kevin's defence keys, these guys taking over organizations taking over teams wants to make vast improvements, but they get an off season. They don't have an opportunity to stamp this team with the type of personality or the type of characteristics that will be typical of their coaching, and so what do they? They look out right out of the gate when the season Starts Kennedy Cleveland browns get all of this talent together and improve what type of! Of quarterback is Daniel Jones, and does this offense move forward and also in Carolina. Now you have teddy bridgewater, every young Joe Brady as an office. According to you decide CMC. Kennedy's new head coaches who have never been in this position in unprecedented time get their teams to play high quality football from the start of the regular season. Yeah, that's a really interesting point here that I wonder if people are thinking enough about based on the uncertainty of the circumstances tantamount my know yours is somewhat similar, but goes to a very specific place. That's exactly right continuity matters Greenie. Let's go to opening day drew. brees Tom Brady were all excited to see these two icons play each other, but drew brees. Sean Payton have been together for two hundred fifteen games, ironically second only Tom Brady and bill bell check on the other side Tom Brady and Bruce Arians game number one, and in this weird off season where they haven't been together. That's a huge advantage for the saints, so I think this buccaneer offense. It's a big work in progress while watching breeze and Brady will be great. Drew brees has a two hundred and fifteen game lead in terms of continuity experience over Tom Brady on opening day. Well essentially didn't point so Dan Glaviano before we move away from that I I to live in this conversation for just a moment. What are you hearing from? These teams that have new head coach is trying to install whatever it is. They're trying to install under these circumstances on zoom and whatever else they're using. What are you hearing about how those things are going? Well they're going as well as they can I think the reception from players on these teams has been good in terms of the virtual off season in terms of attendance and attentiveness I. Think when you talk to coaches. They say it's going as well as it can. You know you would expect it to be difficult and challenging its own way, but they are eager to get guys on the field, and obviously everybody recognizes that a lot of things have to happen. A lot of questions have to be answered before you can get players on the field, but especially the new coaches very eager to find out what the procedures are going to be in. In terms of training camp when they'll be able to start training camps, and when they can actually get guys on a practice field and start putting some of this stuff into practice, because there's no question that the new coaches especially are well behind where they should be at this point in terms of preparation, due to circumstances that obviously no one could control so RC. Would it be your if you make a projection here? Would it be your expectation that those teams will struggle early in the season at the teams with new coaches, and even a place like Tampa where where is the new coach? They have a new quarterback. Do you believe they'll struggle? I don't necessarily know if you can bring it to Tampa Tampa might now be flying at the clip. They're expected to by the end of the season early on, but I. do think you can even go to Ron River. You can even go to Mike McCarthy in Washington. And then Dallas, and look at some of these teams to say it may be a little difficult to make the type of job or the type of changes. You need to make as new head coach, so I expect teams that don't have that. That type type of nudity don't have that type of chemistry yet to have a difficult time getting out the gate as fast as these teams who have experienced to draw on as the season starts, and the meantime Dan Graziano. Let me come to you because a lot has to happen in the next ninety nine days for the season to actually start in one hundred. So what are the things that we should be keeping an eye on if we are to hope that we will have football one hundred days from today? Yeah look just start with training camp. Are they going to be able to have it? And if so, when would it start? What would the procedures be in terms of trying to keep everyone safe? That's going to be the first real testing ground. If we assume that players are going to be back in buildings and practicing then they're going to. That's going to be the first real chance for the league. League to put into practice whatever protocols it has to put into in terms of testing in terms of keeping players safe, and then you look ahead to the season. Players are having a lot of questions right now. There are regular conference calls the players and the players association where players are asking questions about their own personal safety about how things are going to work in terms of testing what happens. Happens if someone's infected. What happens if someone isn't comfortable playing? Because maybe they have a pre existing condition, and they don't want to expose themselves, and then maybe their families to the virus, so there are a lot of things that have to be answered in those next ninety nine days before we even know what it's going to look like in terms of players putting on uniforms, putting on helmets and. And actually playing this game all right. We will keep an eye on all of that a little later this morning. I will make a series of predictions, all of which are guaranteed to come true, and we'll see what these guys think of them. As we go along in the meantime as we continue here, you're not going to hear too many arguments. The Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback in football. What if our general manager told you the second best may not even be in the NFL. You'll hear that on the way it's on ESPN. For businesses around the world, today isn't a restart. It's a rethink that's why they're partnering with IBM to Change How they burnt from supply chains to customer service. Let's put smart to work visit IBM DOT com slash smart to learn more. Back on get up and reaction is in around the world of sports to the death of George. Floyd, we've seen players taking part in protests around the country. CLEMSON head coach Dabo Sweeney meanwhile talked with the media yesterday about his reaction. I know that we are all hurting four, the floyd family and our country. You know I can speak for our entire staff and our team. In that regard for sure, we have all witnessed just disgusting acts of evil, really the only word I can. Appropriately us. Over the past you know recent week here and just and beyond, and there's no question that these are challenging times, but what I've learned is is where there is no challenge. There is no change and we have to all except the challenge in all help to bring about positive change and growth. The manager you saw standing next to Daboh, there of course is quarterback Trevor Lawrenson, and he himself has weighed in on twitter. He tweeted. There has to be a shift in the way of thinking rational must outweigh irrational. Justice must outweigh injustice. Love must outweigh hate if you put yourself in someone else's shoes and you don't like how it feels that when you know, things need to change I'm starting with my brothers that deal and continuously deal with. With things I will never experience the injustices clear, and so was the hate. It could no longer be explained away if you're still explaining it, check your heart and ask why again those the words of Trevor, Lawrence showing exemplary leadership off the field to align with what we have regularly seen from his leadership on the field. Trevor Lawrence is one of the most anticipated prospect in a very long time for that part of the story. Here's Laura Rutledge. Wanted to have a big impact, the freshman. Offsetting and done trevor through the first overall pick. The rules were different trevor. Lawrence might already be in the NFL with certainty. Surrounding is upcoming season instead. He has another chance to prove. It wasn't just one exceptional game. chargers reclaimed their crown by four Alabama. Oh that game us to monitoring of Alabama to win it all the time trevor. Lawrence v two top five opponents by at least twenty five points in the span of eleven days. She was on fire. Trevor. Creek. His sophomore season was different mostly, because more was tasked with chasing his own greatness, his interception total doubled his completion percentage, just fifty one percent against top teams, Ohio state and Lsu. He had a career high tin off target throws against the purple and Gold Tigers in the national championship. It'd be this tonight there was. There's no excuses trevor. Lawrence was human at times in twenty, nine, thousand, nine hundred. Dollars Susie makes a mistake. Trouble Lawrence and also inhuman. It still. In Twenty Twenty Lawrence has a chance to prove once enthralled. He's at the top of the game and the top of the draft. One of the most interesting story lines here with Mr T. and Ryan Clark back with us. I Mike Tannenbaum. I want to start with you as an evaluator. If you were starting a franchise right now, and you could draft amongst all of the quarterbacks that exist not college, and literally putting everyone into the conversation, taking into account their age and everything else. Where would trevor Lawrence wind up going? Greedy he'd be number two for me. It's Patrick. mahomes draw line. It's Trevor Lawrence, and maybe in that conversation you would have Russell Wilson Shawn Watson arrogance because of age is probably out Lamar Jackson's below that there's other players. I like a lot like Carson, wentz but Becomes a factor. This guy checks all the boxes and over the way. He won't be twenty one until October. He has all the physical attributes. You touched on his leadership already. This is a transformational talent who's lost one game in college, and by the way the game he lost against Lsu. He threw for three hundred and ninety four yards, so I want to turn to you. Laura did a good job of painting it this way. The expectations for Lawrence were off the charts where he had to be perfect. Otherwise we'd think season was a disappointment so maybe. Maybe. It's unfair for me to say my perception of a season. Last year was that it wasn't spectacular. They didn't play great. Competition is numbers weren't quite as good as we were expecting them to be the biggest games. I didn't think he played that well. Is You watch these games more closely than I do see? Is that a reasonable assessment of the season? He just have listen. I mean you know upset a lot of people the night at the morning after the national championship by saying I just didn't see no, I can't say this. I got to meet Trevor Lawrence before he got to Clemson before his senior year, I was working at a camp, and I was coaching seven on seven. This just in fields was my quarterback and I watched trevor. Lawrence play and he has it all. He's tall. He has a cannon he. He understands the game, but being on the sideline against Lsu in a national championship, he was off and he wasn't good, and you can speak about three hundred and ninety four passing yards, but I'm talking about the errands rose speaking having t higgins, who was an early second round pick in Justin Ross on the other side, Travis, eighteen, and not being able to move the ball, and it largely being Trevor Lawrence's folk, and so do I think that. Every measurable that you need I think that he's going to be an excellent professional football quarterback I do but right now looking at Trevor Lawrence even though he has a transcendent talent level I have not seen a transcendent football player. You go early last season. He struggled any hit a stretch against ACC, talent that we barely even got to watch, and I only watched because of this job, and we saw him struggle against Ohio. State, which is when I gained a lot of respect for him, because he found other ways to get a win, but in the biggest moments in the best of times when they needed him last year. I don't think he. He was great, and that is important to remember the two times we needed. The Sean Jackson has a clemson tiger. He showed up against Alabama and he was spectacular. He was the best player on the field I haven't seen that from Trevor Lawrence again. It's being fair to him. In every conceivable way is going into his junior year. As you just said my tantamount, he's young. We're not trying to knock him here, but people do Mike you're doing. It and Mel has done it as well. It has talked about like the best prospects. He's ever seen. Andrew Luck John Elway. You're putting him Mike Tannenbaum on that class in that category as a prospect. Nellie that he's clearly better than the last three first round. I picks column. Berry Baker Mayfield would still take him over Joe Borough indifference I know our RC's Lsu Tigers because again of the sides. Done it over two years he. Can Knock that one bad game which again he was off, admittedly so, but he has sixty six touchdowns in two years, and he's still twenty years old. He checks all the boxes and the reason I would take him over borough is if borough was great urban. Meyer News what he's doing urban. Meyer would have played them at Ohio State and borough. Let's face. It average his first year at Lsu so I'm taking. Joe Burrow, he was historic last year, but to me greatness as milk hyper as you to. Greenie Elway Luck I put Trevor Lawrence in that category because he's always been great. jober shown flashes of greatness. That's why put Lawrence category of both agreeing yeah. Green and Like I actually don't. With the fact that he would be taking taken above JSO borough I believe to talking about lower was healthy that he would still be taken over him. I mean I walked past him and like I said I've really seen him before. Good around him and talk to him. I think he's excellent. Young Man I. Walk Past Him on the field at the National Championship and the first thing I thought to myself was man. That's what it's supposed to look like. and honestly not many looked like that, and then you watch the ball, come out of his hands, and so I'm not saying. Saying that he doesn't have all of the tools and have all of these things, but when we look at him, gets Ohio State, and against Lsu he wasn't the best player on the field. Many points of both of those games. He wasn't the best quarterback on the field, and I know. Projections aren't about one or two games that I. Know You have to look at the whole and looking at the whole? I think every first round pick. That was a quarterback. This year. Those teams will take Trevor Lawrence Right now over Jordan love over to talk of a low of adjusted. Borough, I understand those things, but when you cut the film on against each league talent, which he will see every week in the NFL Trevor Lawrence has not stood out to me and we talk about these transcendent talents. These guys we rink at the top of the game and again we're throwing Patrick Mahomes name out there like this dude is just hot. Hot Trash Patrick Mahomes has now set the bar for who is the best quarterback we've ever seen. Throw a football so when you put Trevor Lords, there I need to see something different and Clemson against the elite talent. One other thing I wanted to bring up here just for the moment that we have guys is the idea of tanking. Is this a? A quarterback that people are going to tank for and whether that really does exist. In the NFL Tannenbaum. There was a perception here on this program. We talked about it at length. Several of US have apologized because it clearly felt like the dolphins were tanking last year, and then they wound up playing hard if if they were taking, no one told the. The coach and no one told the players, and they wind up winning a bunch of games should have won at least one more that was taken from them on a terrible call against the jets. What does that look like and do you believe people are suggesting that? Maybe Jacksonville? Tanking this year for Trevor does that really exist you believe in the NFL? Yeah I. think There's two aspects to what we're discussing. Strategically. A front office could certainly try create caps space acquired draft capital for a year. That's what Miami did, and they were able to get their quarterback clearly on paper. Jacksonville looks like that team where they could try to clear some space and be ready to move up if they had for the first pick overall. Doug marrone is a really good head coach. Who was the head coach at Syracuse a good head coach at Jacksonville? He's going to try to win as many games as possible to keep his job, so I think we're looking at this story of tanking from two different aspects, and we'll see what happens on the field. That's what's so great about our sport is. Narrative will change certainly on paper. It could be Jacksonville, but don't underestimate Doug coaching ability. He's just a few seconds are see what are your thoughts? Listen Man I'm I. Never Lose in. I'll care who it is I'm not making that choice, but when you look at these teams, you can't get players. They're independent contractors. They were going to go out and work as hard as they possibly can to win, and so our coaches this so I don't believe necessarily intaking, but I do believe teams get caught in caps and cap situations. Teams have players. They have to get rid of and they're putting positions where they have this opportunity. I don't think they do it purposely all right. We will have more on this as we continue our coming up at this moment just one. We thought this guy season was over think again. And Jalen live in a moment where the wrinkle in the NBA as planned to return, that's next. On ESPN. Today answers matter more than ever before. That's why IBM is helping. Businesses manage customer questions with Watson Assistant It's conversational. A is designed to work for any industry. Let's put smarter work visit, IBM, Dot Com Slash Watson Assistant. Wherever Full Day of sports conversation coverage for you here on ESPN coming up I. Take will follow us here on ESPN followed by Sportscenter, NFL live in the jump at four o'clock. It's twenty minutes of Jalen and Jacoby, highly questionable and around the horn than a two hour sportscenter at five eastern. The PTI guys will be there at five thirty and cap your day with sports. Analyst Got Van Pelt a complete day of sports conversation here on ESPN Mike Greenberg in Bristol this. Get up. We are delighted. You've gotten up with us on. What is a busy day and let me start by giving you? Some information here about the reaction that pours in around the world sports to the death of George, Floyd. We have seen players taking part in protests around the country Kareem abdul-jabbar, one of the legendary figures in the history of American sports wrote an OP. Ed In the Los Angeles Times on Sunday. That read in part I don't WanNa. See stores, looted, or even buildings burn but African. Americans have been living in a burning building for many years choking. Choking on the smoke is the flames burned? Closer and closer. Racism in America is like dust in the air. It seems invisible, even if you're choking on it until you let the sun in, then you see, it's everywhere as long as we keep shining that light, we have a chance of cleaning it wherever it lanes, but we have to stay vigilant because it always still in the Air Kareem abdul-jabbar was on with Scott Van, pelt last night. I think this is the moment that everybody can point to that An awakening took place I hope people are now awake to how horrible institutionalized racism is, and that it is a problem that that needs to be fixed now. Somehow, and we have to start talking about it now. This is urgent. This is not something that we can keep putting off. We'll be talking about it with Monty Williams and a half hour, the coach of the sons who wrote a letter to the nation, sharing his thoughts, he'll join us to talk about the basketball community's role and affecting positive change. That's thirty minutes from now right here on ESPN meanwhile. Let me get up and go with you around. The world was more just brought to you by Claritin and it begins with this players from around. The MLS skipped workouts yesterday as As returned to play discussions, if hit a major impasse, intern MLS extended their deadline tomorrow for the Players Association to other accept an offer on economic concessions for twenty twenty, and a revised CBA, or to be locked out meanwhile college football Notre Dame Navy game scheduled to be played in Ireland has been moved to Annapolis due to the corona virus. That game scheduled to be played on August twenty ninth now it will likely be played on the Labor Day weekend. Elsewhere several NBA owners led by the thunder's clay. Bennett have reportedly asked the leading to consider ways to include all thirty teams in a restarted. However, the League does appear to be moving forward with a twenty two team plan. Let's get a closer. Look at that with our Adrian. And Jalen rose with us this morning here and we'll talk about a bunch of stuff it well. Let's start with that. You've been saying all along that. All thirty teams are not going to come back. But what are some of the concerns of particularly the small-market owners who does not appear? We'll get the chance to come back. Agreeing I think the short term concerns are for many. As the League returns to Orlando, there are teams who want to feel a part of the National Basketball Association. They don't WanNa be left out. In the short term, they want to go play the longer term the of your season ending in March and not starting again playing another NBA game until likely late December that big of a gap really worries organizations, especially those rebuilding with young players, who they can't have around their facilities. They can't have their hands touching these young players, and financially you know some of these marketplaces like in Atlanta where Detroit where you want to stay in the consciousness of your market. You've got to be able to sell tickets. You've got gotta be able to so sponsorships. There's business in basketball concerns about disappearing for this long, and that's understandable we should none of us should pretend the business side of this isn't going to be first and foremost in people's mind jail. Lemme ask. You was a player. If you're on one of those teams. If you were Steph Curry, for example, he's the perfect example because he's a superstar and he's on a team that is hopelessly out of it. WOULD YOU WANNA? Come back and blight. So I want to do a distinction and it all is about time, so if the goal is to complete the regular season as much as possible, now remember players, and obviously teams have taken a pay cut so far already, but if the goal is to get as many regular season games in as possible I'm all for saving the integrity of the regular season. You know how much that means to me. Greedy I hate when people dismissed the regular season. So if that's the case in the reason, I would expect each team that gets called upon. Upon including Steph Curry, and Golden State to actually go and participate if the goal is just to go down there and kind of be a punch bag for the other teams that are getting ready for the season, and you're the Golden. State, Warriors you've already won three championships into you you one this year because you've got yourself back in the lottery, you don't want to affect going into next season by now. All of a sudden getting steph curry injured so you don't want to put him out there, but if you're the hawks in your. trae young, you actually do want him out there because it's something that he can build on, and your franchise doesn't have the history, the recent history of success of the Golden State Warriors so all situations are created equal so one way or another woke all this is going to come down to a vote from the Board of Governors Thursday. Yes, what? What are we expecting here? The Board of governors are going to. Pass? Whatever the plan is that Adam? Silver and the players association bring them. They have zeroed in on a twenty two team four Matt Likely The sixteen teams that are in the playoff. One through eight both conferences right now, and then six more teams likely five in the Western Conference one in the East Washington, and still the details of what that's going to look like is going to be presented to the owners, what the structure and format is, but they're ready to get behind Adam silver approve return the play and had to Orlando sometime in July to move towards starting to starting to play games there sound good to you. Jalen you good with this. I'm very good with a greedy, and it's basically a version of what we discussed, and as I look deeper into some of these teams that may or may not be seven or eight seater below. Let me tell you. Some of the guys that play on those Western kaffirs to you notice wolf say four from the West and one from the east, so Luca John Moran Dam Lillard. Zion Williamson, and then in the issue may get John Wall back to play with Bradley beal. That's interesting. Big Name Talent that the NBA can put on display once they get back to plan. If everyone will just excuse me, one, indulge me one moment of personal discussion with my friend, Mr Rose if the Pelicans make it to the playoffs Jalen. You know you only that soup, I. I, don't I don't other circumstances circumstances this in my favorite crazy, they go get in as a twenty second team and I'm GONNA lose my best. Listen I mean if I was any kind of man I'd let you out of it, but there's no conceivable chance. I'm going to, so we will see again. We working our way towards this owed on guys. Thank you very much. Much we'll check in with you. Later of course J. J. Jalen and Jacoby today four o'clock eastern time on ESPN, now to baseball Major League Baseball discussing the possibility of shortening the season do around fifty games and paying players, their full prorated salary sources say the League News. This plan is a last resort does not intend to propose it to the players I want to bring. Bring Mark to share into this conversation here we jeff passing on about a half hour. God knows you got to hear that. Essentially, it feels as though the players are digging in on one side. The owners are digging in on the other side. What do you like about this planner? What do you think of this plan? The owners throwing out here for far far fewer games. I don't like the plan. Greenie but. Eighty Games are one hundred games is probably more respectable of regular season. And I think the fans want more games. But. The issue here is is the owners are backed into a corner right now, and they're basically saying all right players. You're sticking on prorated salary issue, which is understandable. Okay? You want to get a full day's pay for a full day's work. The problem is I can't play one hundred games in pay you full salaries, so fifty might be my only option. And so where does that leave everybody I mean if you were to be able to come in here in trying to solve this and maybe save. This buster only told us yesterday. He thinks that the short term future of the sport may hang in the balance over the next week to ten days. How would you go about saving it? Well I think both sides need to understand that they had to invest in the future of their sport and what I mean by that. When you invest you, take money out of your pocket. Usually give it to somebody else, but you hope that later on down the road. You'RE GONNA. Make that money back two or three times so I think the players and the owners need to realize they're going to. To invest in each other invest in the sport lose a little bit of money now, but save baseball for this year and the future, and so, how does that look? There's never been a partnership. The distrust mistrust between the two sides is legendary. They have partnerships of some sort in basketball and football in hockey. They don't have that in baseball, but so. Is that something that you see coming from this? I think Greenie. This would have been the year for Major League Baseball and the players to understand that it is a partnership, and when bad things happen when you have a global pandemic or a tragedy business partners come together, and they figure it out. This is not a good situation for anybody, not for the players, not for the owners, not for the thirty million people that are out of a job in this country, but if you realize that. That it is a partnership just like the NBA and the NHL They looked like they've come to some sort of agreement to move forward. Then I think the players and the owners will understand that the fans are the beneficiaries of that partnership and one final question for just a lot more fun than talking about money and talking about the two sides, arguing and all of that if they play some shortened season, fifty games, even eighty two games. And someone hits four hundred. Does that count like every baseball fan can tell you, ted. Williams, the last guy to hit four hundred, he had four zero six. He played in that doubleheader. These are legendary stories will use a baseball player count that. I wouldn't count I. Have One of my best friends in college when six for nine in his career and he said he's the all time hits leader in our batting average leader Georgia tech at a certain point in time you have to understand the history of baseball, and those stats are sacred, so you need to play well over one hundred games for it to count for me. That's what's the number gave me the Mendoza line or the to share a line on this. How many games they have to play for that to be legit? One Hundred Games and I would love to see one hundred games and fans would love to see one hundred games because we want more baseball. Okay, they play one hundred games. Someone hits four hundred. We're GONNA. Count at text. Thanks a million. My man great to see you as always. Meanwhile we continue here with one hundred days to go. Until the NFC's and NFL season kicks off and I've got predictions for you. WHO WINS MVP? WHO WINS THE SUPER? Bowl I'll tell you all neck. Get up ESPN. Though we're apart these days with sharing more so at Geico. We'd like to say thanks. Thanks for sharing you savage dance moves. Thanks for sharing your diy haircut fails. Thanks for sharing your inner lip sync star. Now it's our turn to share with the GEICO. 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"Corning. It is time to get up with Titletown USA L. A. The city of champions but too few controversies coming out of last night you need to hear it all. Jerry is mad. You'll hear what he said but the real question is, what should he do? We will answer that on the way and all the sudden. It seems that tanking trevor maybe something that lasts a lot longer than you were expecting. We are packed today as we get up with started right now on a Wednesday from New York delighted. You're here greeny and Grazziano when the football crew is all ready to go but there's only one place to begin game of the night game six of the World Series Has Mendoza with me bright and early this morning is the dodgers had a chance to clinch what the raise needed last night just with the quickstart and Wendy Roseline provided exactly that. Ridiculous Lewis has he been by the way I mean hit home run it was a Snyder Austin played by this much. Then he homers opposite field sit everything to get on the board. Raise, get the lead invent their picture is dealing flakes no striking out the side in the first inning it's the Best I've seen him look and remember he wanted to stay young in two, thousand and eighteen. He had to fight fastball the going the curb golf. It was ridiculous getting a ton of chase from the best offense in all of baseball they won't touch him all night. Let's call that shadowing because in the bottom of the six still one nothing raised Snell had allowed only one hidden very mighty as in pitch through the sick since July of one thousand nine hundred. Nick Anderson warming in the bench that's a basic by Austin Barnes and that Jessica despite. Only seventy pitches was all she wrote for Blake's now, and this is crazy. You gotta remember mookie Betts is on decades struck out twice. I was calling this game going don't do with analytic state of bring him out at the field said he was dominant and me interesting comes in this game nobody was happier. Then we'll be bet standing on deck saying thank you for taking Blake now out of the game and he gets a double to get it rolling the doctors laid off the bat and and there the next batter is cory seager and take a look at the trouble here. Anderson trying to throw a curve in the dirt this one's going to get away. And this is where it just keeps on going. Austin Barnes comes into score tie the game at all you can do is look at lake, Snell and Kevin cash in the DUGOUT and go why. They got the tying run, and now they get the go ahead run as mookie. Betts he's in the middle of absolutely everything for this team with this. Dodgers take to one lead cash thinking about what might have been meanwhile still missing here's the story that will draw lots of attention after this game is finished Justin. Turner you're seeing here why out bigger no big deal but in a Moment Jessica, we will see the shot him in the dugout being informed tested positive for the colonial virus and being taken out of the about this. Remarkable moment. Again, he's taken out of the game. There will be controversy to follow from that meanwhile back on the field first bottom of the same score, and Jessica, once again, it is moving to leave off the eighth inning fast if seeing the. You saw him get a going for the offense at the huge double, and then of course to put exclamation point on the lead, he would come up with this huge Solo Homerun to showcase an amazing go for the dodgers. So huge insurance when they go up three to one into all that's left is what Julio? To close the door and that he does, but dodgers have won for the first time since nineteen eighty eight, the Los Angeles dodgers champions of the baseball world three, one, the final four games to to the final the celebration is on flakes. No can only think about what might have been and how about the moment a relief and exaltation for Clayton Kershaw who's waited so long and Mukhi beds who was so good cory seager as the world series MVP. Of course, there's controversy Justin. Turner again tested positive back on the field after masculine with his teammates with his wife in the celebration so much to talk about it. Let's hear from. I mean, definitely disappointed upset. You know I don't know I just want the ball I felt good i. felt I did everything I could you know prove my case to stay out there? It's now is one of my better games I pitched in a long time. Honestly the only motive was that. The Lineup the dodgers features potent as any team in the league. Personally felt blake had done his job and then some blake gave us every opportunity to win. He was outstanding. They're not easy decisions. didn't want Mookie mookie or secrecy and Blake. A third time. Rather, reaction from all over the world of sports. Last night when Snell comes out of the game mahomes, they're crazy gave up only a second hidden got cold Noah syndergaard. So who gets to pull the manager? So he's making no secret of what he thought a-rod and his thoughts as well. Computers winning the game not humans binders leads a blinders managed with blinders on you miss. What's actually happening in real time so there's the controversy on the field is the controversy off feel let me bring Jeff Passan into the conversation as well. Jeff Jeff Jeff Jeff. Let's get First Things First Jessica Your Los Angelino from your entire life. Let's start quickly with this moment what the dodgers are World Series Champs for the first time in two generations what does that mean? I mean, I think about Clayton Kershaw I mean there's so many storylines so many things but that's the thing that stands out the most to me. The Look of relief that he had before he celebrated before the joy we talked about this here on this show, the narrative doesn't matter how good his starts were in the world series if they did not win it all, he can't put that behind him of what the postseason has meant to him what he meant with his career, all the numbers, all the greatness now Clayton Kershaw has done it all my heart went out for him and finally getting that championship. To you watch the biggest on the field story out of last night with the dodgers finding a way to finally win a World Series Championship. Greenie Clayton Kershaw certainly is the right answer but the fact that Mookie Betts came into Los Angeles as the missing piece in comes out after his first year as a world champion again after signing that twelve year three, hundred, sixty, five, million, dollar extension Dave Roberts their manager said earlier this week if we had mookie betts back in two, thousand eighteen when we were playing the Red Sox, we would have beaten and. Well they've got Lewke bets now and they've got their first championship in thirty two years. Okay. So the dodgers get there do no one's taking that away but then the two huge controversial Stories Jessica, the decision by Kevin cash to pull blake snail. When he did the analytics tell you it's the right move. Why wasn't it in your mind? Well, I mean, the analytics are what got Tampa Bay to this point in. The numbers did show do not face this line of a third time through the Greenie I mean even live not hindsight in this moment I was like do not take him out of this game. Why? Because mookie Betts at the top of this order, the way that these hitters were missing the ball we're talking by this much against the fastball slider curveball she had all going. That's the field component of scheme that. I love so much and I love the numbers to, but you have to be able to trust your eyes and recognize greatness and Blake. Now was that last night now Jeff, we see all the tweets and then I put up there a few moments ago. The Eye test certainly tells you will there be people out there defending it today. Well, people will be telling us that Kevin Cash did the right thing last night. The interesting thing about this. Greenie is if you look at what the Tampa Bay rays do, they do what was taught to them by Andrew Friedman who happens to be running the Los Angeles dodgers right now remember he was the general manager for the Tampa Bay rays before he went to the dodgers and all the ideas that they use in Tampa Bay, he brought along with him out to Los Angeles. Now, the difference of course is he's got about four times the payroll that the raise you and you know when you have players like bats and like cory seager and like Max Muncie and like Clayton Kershaw Walker Bueller and Justin Turner, and I can go on and on and. On it's a whole lot easier to play the typical sort of old fashioned brand of baseball. But if you go and look at what Dave Roberts did a day before he went out there and took Clayton Kershaw off the mound after five and two thirds, innings and inning in which he had gotten to outs onto pitches he got booed on the way back in but the fact is that was the right move at the right time. Clayton. Kershaw has gotten hit up in later innings and Kevin cash was concerned. The same thing was going to happen to Blake's. Now I think the differences Snell had been utterly dominant at that point and I it's hard to take him out then. Okay and then that brings us to the other storyline and I have a tweet from Justin. Turner. After this again, he was pulled from the game because he had tested positive. He went back on the field afterwards to celebrate with his teammates, take his mask off as he did. So he tweeted thanks to everyone reaching out I feel great. No symptoms at all just experience every emotion you could possibly imagine can't believe i. Couldn't be out there to celebrate with my guys. So proud of this team and unbelievably happy for the city of La Hashtag World Series Champs Jeff I. saw that you worked on a long piece with an explanation of how this happened it was sent to me, but I haven't had a chance to read all of it. So for everyone who was I'm sure wondering how did he wind up back on that field last night? Greenie, it's actually very simple. He walks back out there and nobody stopped in and nobody who's going to get in the way of him and you know you listen to his dodgers teammates mookie Betts said essentially There's no way that they were not gonNa have him out here with Jessica Turner is is the heartbeat of the dodgers team has been around since two thousand fourteen he's been through the highs he's been. Through the lows and he you know he has spent so much time working toward this moment, he was not going to be denied posing with the world series trophy and yet the optics of the whole thing frankly terrible and I think that everybody involved recognize that. I just think that they thought in the end as bad as the optics are having him out there was worth it and so Jessica we were talking, right. Before we came on the air imagine that circumstance if the raise win the game last night, what would we be talking about this morning that we're not gonNA have a game seven right now I mean this game would get postponed and you've got to think about the repercussions of how many more positive tests are going to come because of this and even though the optics bad last night, the season is over everyone. Goes home but imagine that this needed to have another game that this dodgers team needed to get back out on the field and how much storyline will continue of course, how the season started. The fact that this would be at the end if the race had won that game that game seven being postponed having so much controversy because of Justin Justin, Turner's positive tests and the repercussions of coming back out on the field. Are, Jeff Give. Me a thirty second narrative on what we've just all lived through from baseball season that we talked about every single day that may not happen in July all the way through the last night. How do we summit up? Greedy I like to think of sports as is really a mirror of society in the fact that we started this season in the pandemic and that it was shut down and we didn't know that it was going to play baseball at all and the fact that we're ending the season talking about somebody testing positive for Covid nineteen I think is a perfect bow on all of it and there's GonNa be a lot of discussion over the next week two weeks month two months who knows how long about how the dodgers acted here and about Justin Turner's decision but the fact is they made that choice they. are going to live with it and ultimately they're the world champions as outstanding work. Sincerely, we'll bring you back a little bit later in this program but what a perfect way to start it and to finish the baseball season all at the same time. Stay close meanwhile to our top story from the National Football League Gun, get up this morning the Dallas cowboys made a deal yesterday they're not bringing people in they're sending them away. They traded Everson Griffen to the lions, for a conditional draft pick meanwhile on the radio yesterday Jerry Jones getting testy when asked if he thought his team has a void of leadership. But but sears sears, where do you? Where would you have a leadership for? Is that an experience void? Is it a talent board? Is the latest trying to be cute here the answer. The. Answer. I I'm asking. There's a willing to shut up. Let me answer. No When I go into the locker room, there's no leadership void in my eyes. So, everything is going against them including the schedule according to. The cowboys are expected to lose all of their remaining games assuming that happened and they went to and fourteen. It would be their worth record since they were one and fifteen in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, nine, that was their first year with Jimmy Johnson. We all know he turned into a great team ultimately, my crew ready to go here are RC. And Nico with us this morning and Dan Glaviano was here me quickly start with you. They make the trade yesterday they don't bring people in they send them away. Is that Should we expect to see more of that between now and the deadline on Tuesday? Yeah. But on that level, right guys that they have brought in recently don't necessarily fit on. Defense is a guy like, don't Tari poll on the defensive line could be a candidate to be traded or even cut. So look for moves like I. Don't get the sense they're selling off major pieces. It really wouldn't be able to with the contract. Some of their big guys have anyway but yeah I think they're going to shake things up on. Defense because quite honestly get thirty five points a game who can who can you not live without on defense like that's fair and and so the big blowup of this team might come after the season we don't expect it to be this week meanwhile Ryan Clark when you listen to Jerry Jones comments on the radio yesterday, what thoughts go through your mind? Like, what do how bad do the Dallas cowboys have to be for someone this rich this powerful to be upset I think this is the most upset. The underlings have gotten a boss. Man's Sins Billy Ray. Valentine and Louis. winthrop win at Randolph Mortimer Duke like. This is serious. This is big. This is a Guy Jerry Jones who felt like he built this team to contend this team is built with people that he hand picked. He's giving out giving up hundred million dollar contract ninety, million dollar contracts. So all of these people were here expecting to he's expecting to win he's expecting to have leaders in this thing has gone downhill and it's going downhill fast and he sees no way of coming out. Of It. So when you walk into a locker room of your making and you say, I don't see a leader by skill I, don't see a leader by experience. You know what you're saying I messed it up. This is on meet you guys are good enough and when you had to have that realization, that's why you act the way you do with people who are asking very valid questions Jerry, Jones Bay. This bid now it's time to sleep. Absolutely, that was trading places by the way I finally got a reference on a Wednesday on the show meanwhile. LA Come to you. What is the deck in all of this? How does the Dak Prescott sort of figure into all of this I? Mean you talk about a leadership void where your quarterback has gone? You have a leadership void when your quarterback is gone, you have a talent void and I feel like this potential championship window that we thought the cowboys had around one deck was rookie Jill. Now it's closing in his closing an ugly way. Because they didn't pay Dacca last year or pay deck for this season started because now deck, the one thing that we thought wasn't GonNa Happen was he gonNa get injured and somehow value has gone up the way these quarterbacks have played has made deck even more and more valuable giving him more and more leverage while the cap is also probably going down. So it's GonNa be hard put together a viable product for the cowboys going forward. So it goes back to what said dairies realizing that Jerry messed up and there's nothing they can do about it at this point. We will do much more football as this continues guys stay with me. We'll be busy all day, and by the way I have a poll question today and we have a sponsor I poll question is brought to you by Ziprecruiter, and the question very simply is this which team most needs to make a deal before the deadline, the bears, the Browns, the Eagles, the Patriots you. Can Go to my twitter page at ESPN greeny and cast your vote that brings us to this. Clemson. quarterback trevor. Groin. But everybody talking yesterday as he left the door open verbally about his football future despite previously saying he plans on heading to the NFL after this season is the presumptive number. One pick in the draft he says, he hasn't ruled out coming back to Clemson listen. We'll does have to see how things unfold and there's a lot of factors that but honestly, just really playing this year but everything I have into folks in on next year whether you know I'll leave or stay whatever obviously have the option to do either one kind of a mindset been that I'm GonNa move on. But who knows there's a lot of things that could happen where I go. That's across the country. That's close to whole prostate other year no matter what it is you know we'll work it out. Find out just how good is he put these numbers up here? Okay. Over his last sixteen games he's fifteen and. Forty five touchdowns and five picks in the NFL's history those to you see on your screen radi that year in Rogers that you are the only ones to put up numbers that good over the course of a single season. Now for the record if you're watching the show a month ago, I told you this was going to happen Dan. Graziano. How seriously should one take? By Trevor, Lawrence to go back to school not very seriously I think it would be shocking and even. His mindset has been to move on. So he's working off of that. But when you talk to NFL people about Trevor Lawrence, the first thing here is how great he is. He's a can't miss prospect of all time. But the second thing you hear is you wonder if he would pull in. Eli Manning right and if the number one pick, the team had the number one pick was one he didn't want to go to what he tried to leverage his way out of that. Now, a lot of disclaimer we did the same thing last Joe Borough and the bengals turned out. Not. To be true. These are people speculating on a young man's mind and not necessarily certain how it will shake out but six months away from the draft. If you were starting to lay the groundwork for something like that a little bit of a threat like this might not be the worst idea. Okay and listen I will tell you just say again a month ago I told you this was going to happen. Let Me Bring Paul Finebaum and David pollock into this conversation there they are gentlemen. Good. Morning Paul Finebaum Trevor Lawrence talking about going back to school. What's your reaction? Ever Travel Trevor We. All love you. We think you're great but put a socketed and already. Okay. I. Rupert. Murdoch put you on the payroll at the New York. Post. You could sell newspapers and this is not happening. Grazziano is one hundred percent correct. Trevor is bored. He's bored with the ACC board with winning by eight or nine touchdowns a game. So He's having some fun I. He's in Clemson South Carolina. What else does he supposed to do for entertainment? David. Pollick. What is your reaction to all of this? I think it's it's funny before the season he made it very clear. He was like Dude, I'm Outta here after this year this is my last year I really WANNA put into, but I think it just shows you when you get in the grind you kind of lose you don't want to answer questions about things outside. So I think this is a great way to calm the noise not learning about listen I might. I don't know what I'm GonNa do stop asking me about my future and stuff asking me I want to play for the jets because no, I don't WanNa play for the jets who the heck wants to play for the jets. Listen. I can't fight this I mean everyone is yelling at me like should be upset about this. I was the one who told you a month ago it was going to happen. We have much more on this guys thanks for getting up early here such a crazy day with all the insanity at the world series. You can see we are loaded this morning as we continue the dodgers win for the first time in thirty two years. But the celebration was the biggest problem tonight our coverage continues and for two decades, the entire NFL ask the question is it bill or is it raining as of this morning? I can give you the answer and I will as we continue yet up on ESPN. We back on get up and what a big game we have for you on Halloween. Justin. Field leading number three Ohio State to State College, take on Sean Clifford and Penn State at Saturday night on on ABC and on the ESPN APP. Right. Sneaky Hembo is waiting on buster today. Robert Scan Berry only the third will join us in a moment. Try to win this including the postseason. These dodgers went fifty, six and twenty two second best record by winning percentage for a world series champion ever which team has the records will take his shot at that as we continue and we will talk more about this. Did analytics cost the raise a championship that answer more as we get up with you? On ESPN. And I love it not much. You got. We got the Trivia for you ready for someone. Give you the Trivia No. See I told you no one ever gives him a fighting chance someone reading the Trivia question about to come back on. Give Buster. The question. Let them think about it a minute. I think. FOUND ON THE ATTICUS CURSE IN Its eyes are just very lifelike can. Head keeps spinning. ooh, is scary. Release Gary. Missing out on GEICO's easy to use mobile APP. You can manage your Baker policy whenever Larry. Looking. We can just bury deepen the growth. Download the industry-leading GEICO APP today. ESPN radio on Sirius Xm is where you need to be. If you live and breathe college football, we're talking live games, the latest rankings conference and team news analysis from experts like mark. Packer Greg mcelroy E. J. Manuel all leading up to championship specials and more take Sirius Xm with you and always have the latest college football info you need listen right now on the SIRIUSXM APP or online at Siriusxm. Dot Com slash listen ESPN you. Mom I think he stole I've found on the atticus curse and. Its eyes are just very I can. Head keeps spinning. ooh, that is scary. Release Gary Missing. Out on GEICO's easy to use mobile can manage your fico policy whenever Larry. Looks play with another. We can just bury a deep in the ground. gyco download the industry-leading GEICO APP today. This is our next MLS, match the Portland Timbers looking to finish adopting West standings with two weeks left in the regular season wearing off against the La Galaxy that's tonight ten eastern on ESPN. ESPN. This and on the ESPN. APP If you were to travel back in time exactly one year here is what you would find the Tampa Bay buccaneers were two and five. Their quarterback had fifteen turnovers the New England patriots. Meanwhile, we're seven Oh and they were the defending super bowl champs what a difference, a year and Thomas Edward Brady can make. Here's where they are today. Brady is playing every bit as well as he ever has eighteen touchdowns four picks. He has seventeen touchdowns from a clean pocket this season. No one else. Has More than twelve. No quarterback has thrown more touchdown to tight windows than he ask any as a higher passer rating when throwing the wide receivers Vinnie did in two thousand seven, which is the year he rewrote all the records with Randy Moss and Wes welker plus his team right now is the FBI favorite to win the NFC, his old team. The Patriots are two and four. Their quarterbacks have thrown three touchdowns and eleven interceptions. They've scored twelve points or fewer in three consecutive games with Brady. Did that into straight and they are two and a half games out of the division lead that is their largest deficit since two thousand, which was the year before Tom, Brady became their quarterback. So does all of this it was more Brady bill all those years in Foxborough, of course not. But if you were one who wanted to make that argument and all you needed with a numbers to back you up Mr Hembo and I simply say you're welcome. Those are the numbers. Let me bring the crew in here to react I'm looking for a smile and looking for a laugh I'm looking for a reaction. I got one and Dominic Foxworth. Shaking his head at me. What do you say need? Is, a little bit of a stretch. I'll just say how you count that asked a little statement is and I'm not saying it. But if you wanted to say here are the numbers for. Kane, it's not a fair situation. It's only been like seven weeks football and Bill Belichick has come into the season with several starters opt out from corona virus. Then his quarterback gets it and we don't know how that's impacting him on his return. Then his best cornerback possibly, the best defense player in the league gets the coronavirus in has to sit out and we're not sure how that's going to impact them coming back I think this is it's very difficult to draw. Conclusions I. Think this team would be a lot better if it weren't for those circumstances and I'm pretty Tom. Brady wouldn't be having the success that he's having his team was hit as aggressively by the virus in those situations as Bill Belichick was. So I. Think you're probably right. If you have to pick one ballot check or franchise quarterback, you're probably safer going with a franchise quarterback but I'm not so sure that I'm ready to give all of their twenty years of dynasty. To give most of the credits of Brady. Because seven weeks football so far this season are seen what you say. Listen this is the question I. Ask you are the Miami sharks a legendary football because totally deal motto gives great game speeches or because Willie beaming was his quarterback I, think it's about really beaming listened quarterback is just Weren't position in football then hey, hey, is I mean I think when you look at what the quarterback can do you look at many of these great. Hey coaches, they have certain teams that don't do as well because they don't have someone at that position we can look at cal Shanahan who I think is one of the great football minds and truly got Jimmy Garoppolo. Someone that could do some of the things that he wanted to that position. He didn't win football games. Now you look at Tom Brady going over to the Tampa Bay buccaneers obviously he's a symbol to better unit people around him but that team is Playing so much better offensively even Andy Reid who we always knew was a hall of fame caliber coats and had Donovan mcnabb He's had Alex Smith who won number one overall pick number two overall pick. But he gets Patrick Mahomes and finally gets over the Hump I don't necessarily think it has to do with the two people were talking about individually and I agree with Dominique we can't take seven weeks say that Tom, Brady was more important to the New England Patriots Dynasty and Bill Belichick is but I think this does show us that a great player at the quarterback position beats a great head coach everyday of the week. Win here what's your reaction? You covered that team the Patriots Anyway last week and you've been around them a lot. What's your reaction to the numbers I? Think there's no way we're ever going to answer that question right? This is Lebron versus Jordan? It'll be debated forever who is more responsible for that question is answered Dan sailing certainly. There's no way saint answer a question like that. Certainly, you can't do it with just a half a season worth of evidence but. What I thought here was Brady identified that the roster in New England was hollowed out and he needed to get somewhere better for the final chapter of his career whereas Bella check is kind of stuck with it because he kind of he is the system in New England we're brady could bail out on. So I don't buy Dominique's theory that the difference between Tampa Bay's Roster New England's is that one was hit by the coronavirus and the other wasn't I think on paper Tampa Bay had better anyway to say the Patriots have a lot of problems is kind of like saying Ryan's been watching a lot of movies. Let's hold. I have to get to some other stuff here, but I want to come back to this because there's a lot of this I. think we haven't explored. So Nick scale at my producer. Let's come back to this meantime. I need to go to this Robert Stanbury only the third you'd almost buster is going up against him by here we go buster only including the postseason the dodgers went fifty, six, twenty, two by winning percentage. That's the second best record for a world series Champ Buster, which team has the best. Yes sure NAP Hembo is going to throw this abbey in the morning when she didn't get much sleep and I'm having a hard time. In my head, I'm going to say the nineteen thirty nine Yankees. Oh, it's a good thing. It's a good guess the thirty nine Yankees are always a good gas but so are the twenty-seven Yankees and that's the answer the twenty-seven Yankees went one, fourteen, forty, four, they were run ten and forty four in the regular season and they sweep the world series, and so it was them not their counterparts of twelve years later but that's not a bad guess buster for those just waking up let. Me Show them what happened last night game six world series craziest night of the baseball year by far dodgers with a chance to clinch Blake's now dealing on the mound with a one nothing lead. In the first inning, he strikes out the side and looks dominant Beth goes down seger goes down Justin Turner those down Sapa Sixteen still dealing giving up just one hit and as we take you to the sixth inning here again, Snell facing Austin bonds. Again, he's given up just the one hit. Five, and a third. Nine strikeouts seventy three pitches. That's his second. Allowed and Kevin Cash. Says I've seen enough. He goes to the bullpen he gets mic aimed or who is allowed to one in six straight appearances Anderson facing. Cory seager two and one that's in the dirt alone will score which tied at one the frustration from cash. Later in the outback SEGER GonNa grab one and as always moving bats speed making a huge difference scoring for third on the plight, just take a two one league. So that's part of the story was the decision to pull bats the other huge part, the story that draws enormous amounts of attention dylan the sixth inning Justin Turner is GonNa fly to the track. For second out of the inning, you're then going to see him in the dugout reacting to being told that he has tested positive for the corona virus and he is being pulled from the game immediately. bookmark that within your mind he gets pulled game goes on. To, the. Bottom of nine on sorry who've hit a home run this is bottom of nine Julio. Striking out. Willie Adama to end the ball game in the dodgers win the world series. The first time since nineteen eighty eight celebration is on, Snell can't believe dodgers take it four, game two and oh my goodness he gets there. Justin Turner on the field celebrating with his teammates without a mask after the game tweeting quote. Thanks to everyone reaching out I. Feel Great. No symptoms at all just. Experience every emotion you can possibly imagine can't believe I couldn't be out there to celebrate with my guys. So proud of this team and unbelievably happy with the city of La Hashtag world series chance. So Buster, we don't want to talk about this obviously, but it is the overwhelming story that everyone is talking about, how did this happen and what reaction have you been hearing since it did Well, you start with this baseball did a great job getting the Finish Line Major League baseball and the players working like crazy to get to this spot. But so often in history baseball is emblematic of what's going on in the country and last night was a great example of that and now because of what happened, it just raises questions. What did Major League baseball know and when. Did they know it was Justin Turner pulled out of the game quickly enough after he was pulled out of the game was he quarantined was he told the stay away from teammates after the game how was it allowed that that he was a around his teammates? Why wasn't he wearing a mask for baseball? It was an ugly looked at the two thousand and twenty season. Should remind everyone that if we raise had won this game, then we wouldn't be playing games seven today. Of this positive test they would have been some delay and who knows how long it would have been, and so quickly, what reaction have you been hearing I know you are texting with basically everyone in the entire baseball world what people saying to you That well, first off I response I was getting was about Blake Snell and that decision in people were losing their minds when Blake's now was taken out of the game last night with a feeling of you know what this has gone too far with analytics and analytics are based on what's happened in the past not what's happening moment in Blake's snow last night was totally dominated faced eighteen hitters. He struck out nine of them. He Got Sixteen Mrs, Amongst seventy-three pitches and look you can see the reaction the dodger players in that moment after. The game they were thrilled that blake snow was taken out. I do think there's going to be a larger conversation at baseball this winter about whether or not the sport has gone too far with this and hurt the entertainment value of Major League baseball have you heard from anyone who said he did the right thing sometimes in blackjack for example, I use this example all the time in black you do the right thing and you wind up losing the hand it happens all the time. Have you heard from anyone saying he did the right thing In front offices. Yes. Because if you look at Blake Snell's numbers after the first fifty pitches, he has gone downhill. If you look at Nick Anderson season, he's been an excellent reliever but that wasn't reflecting for what was going on in front and what got back a lot of folks last night was there was no feel for what was happening on in game six on Tuesday night of the world series and it was all about past numbers. It was a battle calculators is opposed to players on the field in that moment. The analogy of black doesn't necessarily hold up unless you're able to actually count the cards. If you know what is in there, which in this case he does he has a feel for how his pitcher looks. You can change the numbers if you want to. Let's finish it up with giving the dodgers do and someone like Clayton Kershaw who's waited his entire brilliant career for this night what does this mean for him? Well for him, it puts aside the whole narrative about him being one of the greatest players of all time. He couldn't win a world series, Dave, Roberts the dodgers manager set it on the field last night how about this for a narrative world series champion and in that moment that the world series ended the Fox cameras were focused on Clayton and you could see a look a glimpse of relief before he ran on. The field and smile I agree with you. There were celebrations of joy and celebration of relief. His initial reaction was exactly that buster. You're the best. Thank you very much man. We'll see you a little bit later meanwhile as we continue the Patriots, dynasty appears to be over. It was so bad. This past weekend RC was comparing New England to conduct. Will you hear this as he explains his tweets coming up get up? ON ESPN Time for Ryan Clark to explain his tweet getting to Jim well I've just got buffalo chicken debate Acre Baker Brook. Log Law as everyone laughs at the way I read your tweet. I can't even. A. Fan Favorite. It's Ryan. Clark explaining his tweets and people seem to enjoy me reading them and so let's go are he's got a lot to. Talk to my ear I'm not quite sure that are see and hear me let's make sure whoever is in our seas here gets out and let's hear him explain these tweets first one watching the pats play feels like watching kilger challenge to challenge to be the black. Panther you new Challah wasn't going to win, but you were so used to seeing him do. So he always found a way yet kill Manga just kept reading I'm asking is this your king sad day alright. Peking RC explain that tweet. Hey man listen that was hard for me. Wrestling pleased to the king chair with Bozeman. But I remember watching that you know to talk into child are now separated. We've already beat buckled with the new. England patriots did early on in the year in here comes kill mongering. He's taken down I mean they killed oncogenes I mean, Zuri and now we're just watching it happening in right in front of our eyes the king is falling and you say to yourself you know what I know he's going. Give back up and I know he can do it, but he can't, and then it's beat him down, beat them down, beat them down, and now they're picking the pets up and they're putting them on the shoulders and they're walking to the side we're seeing can on the sideline Jarret Stidham is on the field in these fallen on his face, and then they toil over the cliff and now Angela Bassett Roy Keane got accommodating and that is how I feel watching the king fall is killing the. Heart Richie and all I can say is I hope they've found the wait to brain Black Panther back. All. Right. Next one next tweet is about Scott Miller. Here we go. Boys better start reading the scouting reports on Tampa Bay running out there on Scotty, Miller. What that Wes Welker Danny, Amendola and Jewish settlement mindset. Bro is a flat-out burner and corners keep squatting their feet getting ran by our see. I love this one. Explain that tweet. Listen Greenie. This is exactly why Sydney Dean and billy whole were able to be ducking came at the end of white men can't jump white may can't jump. You know why? Because people don't read the Scott report you run out there you know all the cliches Greenie he's a lunch pill guy he's the first one in last one out. He's such a coach on the field. Fisk guy has a feel for zone know Scotty is a burner can flat out roles got was four, three, six at the combine this do has. A, hundred nine yards at eighteen yards per cliff. So all you. Who are running out there baking, you're going to get possessive routes you better get on the Scott report and understand that this dude is going deep at Tom Brady is getting the ball to him do not be to do that tries to bet that he can't don't. Next tweet from Ryan Clark involves the Chicago Bears. Here we go. Bra Watching the bears play offense is what I feel like sitting through. This is would be like. Explain that three. Greenie time I see this is US promos. I. Get sad grow it feels it feels heavy. It's stressful. But as I've been watching the latest promos I'm kind of getting the premise of it. Right one family they bring this kid home from school and then the dude goes he says, you know what I thought. The worst day of my life was when dad died but the worst day was when they brought you in this is how you have to fill of yours ICAGO bears fan and you Mitchell trubisky fan as well. Right you thought the worst day was when they. Bitch Mitchell trubisky when you watch nick foles play against the rams you been realized the worst day was when they let nick foles beat a quarterback I mean it was absolutely abysmal like I couldn't even deal with watching it i. don't know what it must be like to be Robinson or mony or Miller or one of these guys who are wide open expecting evolve what you see nick foles on his back trying to figure out a way to get it to you and then when he does to other team picks it up in Philip, you play defense for the bears if. You're a fan of the bears or if you are Matt Nagy, I am sorry that you have deal with this. Is US every day of your life because it seems stressful that's another tour De Force I'm saving the last one for a little later because I got to get something else here but we have one more coming later in the program and I really WanNa hear. Meanwhile this past weekend might have been the greatest performance of Baker Mayfield's career twenty, two, twenty, eight, two, hundred, ninety, seven yards, five touchdowns beating the bengals thirty, seven, thirty, four in the same game in. which they lose Odell Beckham for the season and it's hard to argue that Mayfield would be better off without a superstar like Beckham. But the numbers say that he has been qbr is nearly perfect when targeting other white outs on the team minutes completion percentage is up twenty five percent when throwing away from Beckham this year. So let me bring my squad back in on this and we'll start with David pollock was up early with us this morning when you hear something like Baker, Mayfield quarterback is better without the best receiver on his team and one of the best in football. Thought goes through your mind. I think it's always it's always frustrating to hear that because when you got when you got a town like, oh, bj that should never happen but it Kinda worked out that way this past weekend. But I think it's more about managing Baker than it is about ob Jay and knowing who they are and when you start the game with four out of five dropback passes you completions hard passes. That's not what Baker Mayfield's GonNa succeed with Baker. Mayfield is one of the most rhythmic quarterbacks you'll fund. You gotta give them that easy stuff. You've got to give him the run when they got going in the second half in the second quarter when he got rolling and he got his. Twenty one straight completions he it was a rollout it was it was run run run. It was a bubble he got his rhythm. It can now be play action can now be timing because when he gets in a rhythm gets and Tommy, he's really really good. So listen you take away opie bj I don't I don't think the team becomes better. But if you coast better and protect Baker Mayfield and run the football and stick to that script, he will be better. So maybe without O B j they will do that more consistently and you'll see a better more consistent Baker Mayfield neak I'm thinking about this thing somewhat psychologically what what do you think when you hear this conversation? Yeah I mean I think that's kind of absurd. The idea that they get better when they have not as good players on the field I think that I can understand that maybe baker could feel the pressure of wanting to get the ball to Odell Beckham and that could throw them off a bit but I don't think the numbers necessarily support that it's not that he's forcing the ball. If anything I would love to see Oh Bj have more targets any bugs me all that suggests is if your quarterback if it is a psychological thing, then you got the wrong quarterback. Having somebody on your team. That's really good. Makes your quarterback worse than you got the wrong quarterback I don't think that's the case I think anyone who believes that the reason why Baker hasn't become the full Baker there we all expected them to be is because Odell Beckham is there I think that's ridiculous. What do you think I would say? I think this is hard for me because I got to go against tool my brothers and colleagues who are love very much. In Odell Beckham, junior who is one of my favorite people favorite players in the league but Baker Mayfield is better without Odell Beckham junior and it's not an Odell Beckham junior problem. It's actually a Baker Mayfield Problem Baker. Mayfield understands how the work to field a little bit better when Odell Beckham Junior isn't there. Baker Mayfield seems to make the right decision on throwing the open man when Odell Beckham Julia isn't there and the Cincinnati Bengals game was a direct example of that. He took the right throw at the right time he got to the open guy and he made things happen in a lexicon less complex route situation than he normally does with Dell. Beckham Julia. So is it true? Yes. Is it Odell Beckham Julius folk though? No, it's not. So that's right I think that all those things can be true at the same time. I would ask you Graziano was insider here we're is Odell now he's going to be out for the rest of the season. He has a bunch of money guaranteed for injury. What does his future look like with the browns or might it be somewhere else doesn't turn twenty eight until next week so he's got a future and as you mentioned, he's got guaranteed money with Cleveland next year so he will be in their plans I mean. Look the browns feel like they can operate their offense without him but having him in there elevates their offenses potential right I mean, this is a team that's five and two lost by thirty plus points to the Ravens and steelers. So they can win games without Odell Beckham, but is that going to allow them to compete with the very top teams in the AFC in the NFL I mean, look to borrow from Ryan when Tony Stark and Captain America's Split Up, they could get some stuff done. Sure. I. Mean they're good enough. Need to get back together or else having on. Courage this I lose control every single week. Let's continue. Talking out. Do. Coming up for the second time in a month. His titletown dodgers do in why was this a bitter sweet night all the way around answers on the way up on ESPN. This class look haunted. I don't think. So what about those two creepy girls come stay with us? Truly frightening which fairly. Missing Nagai Great Service. With Geico you get twenty four seven access to licensed agents. Thank you creepy girls were to see our room. We're GONNA sleep in the car now. We'd switch today for twenty, four, seven access to licensed agents.

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You were expecting take packers. Vikings Monday night football the last Monday night game of the year and a huge one Dan all asking for that man Kirk cousins. We all know winless in his Monday. Night History Anna Alan Lanka's Aaron Rodgers. and not the order interception in his last two hundred seventy seven to ten. It's a really good play. By the Safety Anthony Harris it's quotas coverage he's GonNa see devante on that crossing crossing route means he can undercut it. Great anticipation about the safety. The game is three three. The Vikings on the ensuing drive had a chance to capitalize. And they do to Stefan this absolute absolute pearl by Kirk cousins over the top on third down on the favor out in the red zone. You don't throw by Kirk cousins. Final minute of the half packers down ten cents at Rogers starts to you get hot and good little pocket moving Barajas here making sure that lets Jimmy. Grand Cross the four nation on that show thoughts and good ball player and then he shoots the ball out to Davante Adams puts flat latte round here gang and it puts them in a position where they can go for a touchdown quickly as he gets out of bounds before they have to try for the bill. And this should be a touchdown the route dwells yeah first of all short motion on top. And you're gonNA see Adams WanNa one quick out. This is not a good role Byron. Rogers we always see that ball out in front by Aaron Rodgers. He knows it now. At the end of the day you expect the growth of dance to make that catch on his head whites ten nine lead at halftime. But then the second half will warned Gary the dairy Smith had but it it was all because the different places they put sometimes outside sometimes inside where you can get skinny and whoopee double team. He was big time for the packers. Deepen three and a half sacks on that the vikings kingside only seven first downs in this game. And this one here. What's he doing here? He doesn't see the backside corner King. This interception safety cuts the crosser King Angles back to the middle field to replace that safety. Kirk cousins never saw it. And then you see some athleticism after that interception but I told you belong to Erin as the defense celebrates handed handed over to their running back and Aaron Jones owned the rest of the. Yeah love it. It's a bunch set. Go outside on the perimeter run bring somebody back across the formation free. Some of those defenders really good fishing. He would go for one hundred fifty four yards and two touchdowns here comes the second is the packers. pull away now. The motion to get the second level defenders a linebacker to play you just a little bit slow many great vision and patients by Aaron Jones and speed down the sideline twenty-three tenure final the packers win it on the road. They have not lost a game the division all year and they are the champion of the NFC north to be back on top of the north after a couple years Being down feels great to when in the stadium We're a couple of years ago. I was Jeered leaving the field after breaking my collarbone. Oh feels pretty good. I'm not going to get in this kirk cousins on Monday night thing and all that stuff offensively. We didn't play as well as we can. Play announced that. Okay so the packers with that game have played nine games this year against teams with winning records and that is their mark invented the best record of any team in the NFL this year. And it's a big reason why they are in play the number one seed in the NFC and Damien. Woody as you watch I am play and you watch what appears to be will not. Aaron Rodgers is absolute apex but still some magic moments in a defense that is getting after the quarterback Aaron Jones running it. Just how good. The Green Bay packers the Green Bay packers of scarier because the one aspect of their team that this kind of known as Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers has been more more of a complementary guide than the airwaves that we've been accustomed to in the past. I mean we saw some throws last night there were off targeting. You're sitting there thinking. Wow this is not. The Aaron Rodgers largest debt is universally talked about its best. Will maybe the best quarterback in the National Football League and I think the scary part is if Aaron Rodgers get hot gets hot got to go along with the Green Bay packers defeats and earn Jones. Russia football this teeth absolutely super bowl. Then why is Aaron Rodgers missing. Some of these. He's throws that. He wouldn't have in the last two months. It's just four gate before plays a game of just close misses. Now it's a little bit of Aaron Rodgers. He's never been the fundamental fundamental technician. That we know Tom Brady or drew brees right and as he's gotten older some of those fundamentals have forced to Mrs then there's some miscommunication between between him and some of the receivers and then there's misthrows there's different location. He expects gotta be somewhere in the guy's not there or Aaron just misses it. This is rare for Aaron Rodgers and in this offense. And so there's droughts there's a missed throw there's a drop by receiver. There's a miscommunication but this has been the story for two months into the D woods point. The packers are a good team. They have the potential to be a dominant team. Dave did potential. It'd be the top dog in the NFC. And I know that saying a lot because we we saw the graphic during one against really good teams twelve and three if they connect on four more plays a game. They're not winning games. They're dragging people there whooping teams and that's got to be at least a little bit getting your attention if you're the NFC at the end of the day they gotta make the place because they haven't for two months but they're there to be made if you're looking at the big teams in the NFC. Let's say Seattle and pardon me has fallen a little bit off by the wayside. If you're looking at New Orleans Green Bay in San Francisco. Here's the I thought I had. You say you want Aaron Rodgers to get hot. I think he's better off. If it's cold really cold. Meaning he needs that game at Lambeau field and not in the superdome if he plays New Orleans don't like drew brees there but the real question is San Francisco because because the eight and one that one was a shellacking. Yeah when they went up to Santa Clara and that is the team. I don't think they want to see. I mean it's important for us to also stop looking at the Green Bay packers packers. In the same lenses. We have for fifteen years. We've always thought that the Green Bay packers they get cared Aaron Rodgers and. They're not really a good football team. They're a complete team. They can run. The football offensive line's outstanding. Defense can play well to your point. Greenie yeah you WANNA have that game in Green Bay you want everyone to come to you. Aaron Rodgers comfortable there they know how it is how it is to not only play there but play playoff football there. You WanNA force team. That's a tough. I've played December football games. There that is take a tough place to play not only because the weather but just to feel the vibe the crowd and again Rogers knows how to handle that moment would would you said that these packers could be a super bowl team. Rogers really does get hot. How much confidence do you have though that he can do that? In your competence in this team in the postseason what we're talking about Aaron Rodgers. We're talking about the all time. Great this generation so it definitely can happen. But I'm just going back to the San Francisco. Forty niners there. The San Francisco forty nine to play bully ball. Aw They can run the second leading Russian and their front four can get after everyone and they got a top rated pass defense in the national football league so to greet his point. I don't think anyone really wants to see the forty niners in the postseason so right now at the top of the NFC standings are looking at San Francisco. You're looking at New Orleans. You're looking at the packers off. They win last night. And then they're Seattle. They've got injury problems. And where are they going to try to address them. This is impressing these mode. Greenie has returned to Seattle. Are Adam schefter reporting that the seahawks have signed marshawn Lynch for the remainder of the regular and postseason now winter course played six years with the Seahawks from twenty ten to twenty fifteen. And he's on one of the best running backs since the hawks. History has four pro bowls are the most by any Seattle back in team history and if marshawn suits up for the playoffs since twenty ten. No running back has Russ `rumour yards in the postseason than Lynch so Dan. They're obviously trying to find the magic. You're signing marshawn Lynch. What type of impact do you expect us to have for the SEAHAWKS? Well he's not he's not going to be. The play was as years ago but he's averaged over the last two years average over four yards a carry. If marshawn Lynch gives the Seattle seahawks for yards a carry. They will be very glad with with that because just the that's who they want. They want to be a physical kind of grinds. You out smash mouth stay committed to the run football team and then take some shots down field. So I don't really expect marshawn lynch to recreate beast mode or that quake run against the saints. But if he gives them. Some viable carries Harry's ten fifteen carries a game and just the feel of running the football. They'll be thankful for it. I don't necessarily think it matters that much though for me. The the Seattle seahawks are tied to one Russell Wilson to debut on cloudy today beyond Clowney is not healthy. We can see as many beast. Quake runs that we want but the Seattle seahawks defense is not going to be good enough for them to get or make their run in the playoffs that they expect you so lynch. You'll have an impact but clowney has to. It'd be healthy cloudy on the field. Not only in the past game but in the run game is paramount for Seattle's defense we should make it clear that Carson and precise her that's one of the right they desperately need this help so i these guys never come back and are as good as they used to be. It just never seems to go that way but it's better than nothing right now. What they have is practically nothing so you can't the question the decision to try and go for it but as far as Seattle is concerned? They have the best quarterback. I'm Russell Wilson has played the best of any quarterback in the NFC this year. Do they have enough around him. Ought to be a legit threat in the play offs. I don't think they do I. It's as much of a magician as Russell Wilson. 'cause he'd covered up comes up a lot of yells els within within that Seattle roster. I don't know if it's enough to overcome. You know New Orleans with their defense drew brees. Michael Thomas The San Francisco Forty niners with their defense and they're rushing attack. How Jimmy Garoppolo has been playing so again? I'll put out put anything against Russell Wilson. But they have some holes on on the know who they're going to miss. They are GonNa Miss Josh Gordon. I know it sounds because he wasn't killing the stats. Josh Gordon was still a six foot. Three hundred twenty pound human that you had to pay attention to go watch their own game. They could not throw the football down the stretch the field vertically in the past game so woods point. I think it's a lot to ask Russell Wilson to overcome all right so those are the sort of the big contenders in the NFC and then there's the division that someone has to win a talked about the eagles their post-season fate now finally in their hands after beating Dallas. Seventeen nine a match up with the giants is all that stands between them in the NFC east title a win over them or a cowboys. Loss to Washington would lock up the playoffs for the Eagles at the eagles. FBI Chances of winning the division. That's that's all analytics. They say Philly as a seventy three percent chance to get an over. Dallas Dallas are still in play for the division crown. They need a win and a Philly loss to make the playoff and I have renamed the quarterback of the New York giants. For this week. He is no longer Danny dimes. That's not telling the story Danny Dollars. darned not nearly enough A. D. he would say as we look at this thing all the delicious possibilities here. They both play in that four twenty-five window that NFC east battles. The giants have Lang pretty well of late. What chance do you give the giants of spoiling the party against the banged up Eagles Laura? I'm so glad I'm so glad you if you thought L. dollars going completely jump off the Dow's Oh you are mistaken right. Now listen the way the giants and the weapons that they have office they can absolutely beat the Philadelphia Eagles. You're talking about the Phil Philadelphia. Eagles team as greatest costume winstons played. This is still a depleted Philadelphia Eagles team and you're going up against the New York giants with data dollars out there. saquon Barkley often dumbs on people out. There this is the thing that I have nothing. They have nothing to lose nothing. Those are the scariest teams to play. especially the last game went. Everything is decided. I'm stops accounting onto victimization. Picking The Dallas Cowboys this morning. You're going to take the cowboys to win the division. I'm picking the Dallas Cowboys I take. I mean obviously taking the Eagles on the road to be difficult. But I'm hoping to get Lane Johnson back and I'll say the same thing I said last week. I don't think that the coach and the quarterback are going to let them lose this game. I think that they're overconfident. In themselves in the people around them the defensive line for the Eagles has got to come to play. Kazakina scored forty one less. We didn't you. Jones been lighting it up before he got injured. Obviously coming back last week. If Lane Johnson comes back. What are you going to go out and play receiver because now earth? Eventually I bet you can give me eight hundred yards somehow. The quarterback will get me to play. Well Ah I think Greg Ward is starting to come you know. Show himself a little bit. Dallas Goddard is playing. Well I don't see any ways ECKERD's doesn't play this football game. I don't know I just know the broken rib. I think he'll play. He will find a way that Zakar he he broke it in the first quarter within five hundred found a way to play football game Zakar Zacher GONNA play. He's nervous I know I know. Here's a thing if the eagles don't win a AH obviously the game has yet to be played. But I wouldn't expect it to be because the quarterback I mean the core I think he needs to prove Sunday at home. All of the garbage bag stuff we. All of that is justified. I guess if he goes out and plays terribly on Sunday it would undo some of that but the reality is there a shell of football team. The Eagles have no one left on offense. Print the ultimate authority now urge goes down. They have nobody left but at least they know that I know that they haven't had anybody for six weeks. And they found ways and so they gotta find away. One more week I believe Doug Peterson and Carson Wentz will get it done. I like to smile on the face of Jamie. And where do I need to look into whether or not I can trademark Danny dollars. Let's talk about the team. That might still edge them. One of the biggest questions coming out of Dallas after the cowboys tough losses those the eagles this Sunday is the future head coach Jason Garrett despite the loss the cowboys as we just said could still win the division with a win over. The redskins appeared with an eagles bulls lost to the giants. So let's get more on everything going on in Dallas welcoming in our NFL. Insider Dan Graziano and Dan. What are you hearing about the future of Jason Garrett in Dallas Alice? Yeah I I just wanted to say you could tell her loss key. The Eagles are only using ten guys this week and he still tell you why they're gonNA win the game because it how great the quarterback is so man is all and never have seventeen points. been more over celebrated on a Monday morning when we talk about the cowboys. It's the same as it's been all year before the season started Jason Garrett had to make a deep playoff run in order to save his job. That's still true. And mathematically it's still possible so if they were or to win and the eagles were to lose Sunday then obviously they're not gonNA get rid of Jason Garrett in the week where they're preparing to play a playoff game if that those things don't happen I would think you would expect the cowboys always to make a change. A head coach possibly early as next week moving out Garrett and starting to interview people but that's it's amazing how consistent this story has been since August. It's still where it stood back then except records terrible Dan. If they make a change the cowboys who would they go to well. That's the thing that we've heard you know. Urban Meyer connected acted as a person of interest there and other places And it's possible. They would explore that. The college ranks include Matt Rule at Baylor. WHO's a guy that I think? A number of teams are interested in talking to you. Look around the landscape at the Mike McCarthy Ron Rivera types who have some experience could fit there. It's a unique job. Whoever goes there and we've talked about this as well has to understand what the landscape is? How Jerry Jones is going to be out talking on the radio all the time and talking to media after games and you know you're going to want to be the coach and not have to necessarily have the personnel control? Some of these guys might WANNA have so it'll be interesting to watch. It should be a unique unique opening. Thanks Dan Glaviano for joining us and also. Thanks for the Dan on Dan. Crime there graziano where you live near each other actually for that matter so he threw a bunch of names in there that I find really interesting in the first one he said is Matt Rule. Now Matt Rule is a guy who was up for some. NFL coaching jobs a year. The jets would let him pick his own staff otherwise he would have been the head coach of the jets now. He did a really good job at Baylor this year and in a recent interview I liked what he said he was like. Look I don't rule things out now. He's not one of these phonies so that becomes a pretty intriguing possibility. Along with Lincoln Riley Urban Meyer of those college guys. Do you see one of those guys. Wanting that job I think matt rule would probably be the highest of the list of wanting it for themselves. I would actually say that Lincoln Riley still probably isn't really considering get as much as people want him to. I mean everyone wants to put Lincoln Riley on the cowboys and and he just doesn't seem to me like a guy that wants to do that. I think he enjoys the college game and I think he's still chasing thing that elusive national championship. Which seems to be incredibly difficult to get an urban Meyer? To Greenie is such a wild card. I don't think it's realistic right now. I just think urban kind of listening to some some of it and Dan. He has the flexibility to listen right. Now he's not doing anything else except broadcasting. He's not actually coaching. But I do think Matt Rule might be legitimately interested and I think his personality fits it's well in the NFL with NFL player. Long said if I was going to make a call to a college coach I would be too matt rule. I've said that for about two years. Now the second call would be to Lincoln Riley and and I know that we want to peg Lincoln Riley in there but there is also some reasons. I believe he's from that area in some way. Grew up a huge cowboys fan and I do like chasing the National Championship. How likely are you to go get it at Oklahoma with all the teams that you have to play in the College Football playoff and the fact that I think this has been his best coaching year? I think that he is shown to be more than just an offensive line. He is shown to have adaptability he has shown to be able to be flexible cool. He's shown incredible leadership to get this football team back to the college football clip also different types of offenses. We saw one offense with Baker Mayfield. Then we saw another offense with Colin Murray. And we've seen a totally different offense with jalen hurts so there is the XS and os mind there. As well as I do think that Lincoln Riley has taken a step forward in the ability to be the leader of an organization and when your potential dream job presents itself. I think that's going to be very difficult to say no to. I think he would have been on the Mat rule train I was talking. I was hype and Matt Roof for the Judge Job. You know last year because the one thing about Matt Rule. He's a program around builder. That's one thing he did it. At temple turnaround quick went to Baylor head. Bail basically brought in from the brink of Death to plan in big twelve championship every inch of game. So this guy. He knows how to build program. And a caveat with the cowboys is again. Dak Prescott has had his best year ever. And so if if you decide to move on from Jason Garrett do you keep killing more in John Kitten who has had tremendous impact on Deck Prescott. Like how does it all work out because the head coach you hired is you wanNA keep those two guys to run his offense and oh by the way not mentioned practically in any of that is urban Meyer overwhelmingly the most successful of the group that we're talking talking about as we continue on. Get up this morning. It has not been as best year but Aaron Rodgers still keeps opposing coaches up at night. We will tell you and more importantly show you why why that easing Dan in the AFC Brady Mahomes. Lamar Jackson all will feature prominently in the postseason to you right now. Answer to those and other questions take as we can get on honesty big half hour coming on this Christmas Eve edition addition of get up and five minutes. Better be ready Aaron Rodgers and the packers are coming the most dangerous team in the NFC. Patrick Mahomes the most dangerous quarterback in the entire league now that he's finally healthy. And it's everybody's favorite Damian would. He is going to smash some helmets along the way all that and more but first time for a little sneaky question who wants a shot at this Aaron Rodgers last night one is third game this year. Without throwing a touchdown pass. What were the other two quarterbacks to win three games this year? Without throwing a touchdown that's the question. The answer is next you're watching GUETTA ON ESPN. Your home is important. 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Downfield there's Jimmy Graham moving along oh absolutely way to find a tidy gotta hold onto the ball big fellow and then Roger's GonNa find devante Adams who will tip toeing the sideline move them down into the red zone and get out of bounds. One quick shot before the happened. This shouldn't be touchdown town. Yeah I mean listen to the bones a little bit behind but you gotta be able to catch a football in that situation instead. The packers settled for a field goal for the vikings are up at halftime. But the second half belong to Erin but but not Rogers it was John. Yeah Jones Man. He's been a magnet to the end zone this year. Hundred fifty four yards rushing for Jones at the two touchdowns that you see here that was the first and here comes the second fifty six yards to the house. He wouldn't look back and neither with the packers they win at twenty three to ten they win the NFC North North and they are very much in play for the overall top seed in the NFC. So Rogers wins the game. Without throwing a touchdown pass is third game this year in which he wins without throwing touchdown. who were the other two quarterbacks this year with at least three wins in which they did not touch down? I'm going to go. Tom Brady Josh Allen you were very close. Tom Brady is correct. Jacoby percents Is the other percents team. Out of playoff contention the gradient lodgers finding ways to win games differently. Let's take a closer look at. Let's do it and look here's the thing. We continue to point out that Aaron Rodgers maybe missing some throws rose Dan. But you also want to give this guy in props and at the end of the day. His team still winning games. So show us what you saw that was especially situationally and then how fast his mind can still operate. You saw it on third down to first of all last night. The Vikings are going to be in a two-man Cartridge. Those two safeties had a a half of the field deep abso- now everyone underneath is going to be playing man coverage now when you get into this empty backfield you see the packers are empty. Backfield right there you have to number one is a quarterback. No what's your protection. So Rogers knows that his offensive Lineman is going to go to the left. That means that this linebacker if he blitzes. There's there's no one that can be part of that protection. PICK HIM UP. So Rogers one needs to know. Are you going to be a problem with the blitz for me watch Rogers first of all understand the problem with this protection or the issue looking to snap his eyes to that linebacker when he gets snap. Are you blitzing okay. You're not blitzing now number. Two I told you it was to man to man and you have to have something to beat coverage scheme coverage up. Now what they're going to have a top over here is they're gonNA want one receiver out at that corner and then slip someone underneath and Lincoln little replay shallow route. I told you that Rogers was staring to the right here. Watch how quickly. He snaps his head to get back to that reach. Snap your head back get vision to that way. Make sure that that receiver is clearing out and that underneath shows gonNA come big third down conversion. The guy can still get through. Reads really quickly. Let's watching futile play action ball so this play action is going to be. This is going to come down bluff and go out get out crosser all sir and then a big in by Davante Adams now the read is one two to three watch how fast Aaron Rodgers can still get through stuff gets the the top of his dropping eastern at number one number one. You're taking way too long. I've got to get to number two. Snap his head to number two that initial crosser. He doesn't like number soukous. These underneath defender this cloudy picture for quarterback that receivers just getting into his route doesn't like number two. Let's watch how quickly. This sky is snapping to number three right now before Davante Adams is ever getting into his cut. He's snapping number three and also that ball is getting ready to get ripped. Ball's GONNA come out of Roger's hands that defenders standing right there that the understanding right. They're able to drive on it. This is called anticipation Chian into a window. That you can't see right now. Ball is auto rogers his hand. And it's an absolute Pearl devante atoms so rodgers. I can still play fast. He can still anticipate any still dead. The accurate I promise you no one in the NFC wants to see the version of twelve that we just showed and and it feels like it's this close to happening at a consistent rate. Who knows if he can get hot? Greenie let's continue the quarterback theme on get up this morning. Yeah let's go to the AFC because you really really have three teams. That feel like they've separated themselves. Then here's two thousand. Nineteen and Tom Brady is still part of the conversation. He still winning games. It's his twelve year with at least twelve. Wins Windsor Starter at the most. Ever Tie with Peyton Manning. Patrick Mahomes is up to seventy five career passing touchdowns in thirty starts enters has the fewest starts ever needed. To Re seventy five career. Touchdown passes it's ridiculous but previous record with Dan Marino L.. Lamar Jackson a combined. Forty three passing and rushing touchdowns this year as the third most by at first or second year quarterback ever behind Patrick Mahomes in two thousand eighteen and Dan Marino one thousand nine hundred four. Both of those guys went on to win. MVP and Lamar Jackson accent is going to as well so this becomes a really interesting scenario. We talked about it a little bit here yesterday but what. I'm curious to hear from you as we look at those three teams and the three quarterbacks the two the young guns in Jackson and Mahomes and Cagey veteran you played with a generation ago in Tom. Brady who do you have the most confidence in as they headed to the playoffs. I gotTa Patrick Mahomes. I mean listen. I think we're starting to see the healthy version of Patrick Mahomes and when you had the healthy version to go along with the weapons that they have on that can city office. Offense is going to be scary but the real scary part Greenie about the Kansas City chiefs is their defense. Their defense over the last five or six weeks has been one of the best. If I love the best deepest in the national football league so again to Recap Patch mahomes. We've seen this guy in the playoffs. Play lights out. His defense has been the the the x factor and defense potato. Play the way that they've been playing. This team could easily find their wins. So when we know we know this about the chiefs and Patrick Mahomes when Patrick Mahomes is healthy. He's the best player on the planet. He's finally healthy. The ankle the knee and the hand or no longer look to be an issue again when he is healthy. The Best Player on the planet to your point would now they have the defense reminding everybody. We have never seen this version of the Kansas City city chiefs of Patrick Mahomes. We've only seen the chiefs with Patrick Mahomes and bad defense or unhealthy Patra homes in an improving defense now. We've got a really good defense defense. In Kansas City and healthy. Petro home again is the best player on the planet. That's dangerous with that being said. I still take Tom Brady. I made this mistake last here. I made this mistake of going on New England. Just doesn't look ride in. Something's not there. And then they figure it out. At the end of the season gone their playoff run. And I feel like we're trending towards that because what I saw Saturday. What I saw Saturday was a football team? Figure out okay. This is something that we're going to get good at. We could get this run going. We can get this play action. I Have Long Long said that Tom Brady was playing good football this year. The people around him needed to step up and you saw that with because he saw that a little bit with Jacoby Mars Eshelman is still there. Circle Harry in his usage. Landon Roberts playing fullback. I still in December and January football going to bank on twelve and somehow we have not yet mentioned the team. The quarterback is going to be the and they haven't lost a game in like three months and they're going to have home field advantage all the way through it usually someone and in your case. You're saying it's going to be mahomes. Is Going into Baltimore and beating them. Yes this is why in August I said it was going to be the best. NFL season the chiefs. Defense is the most equipped to stop Baltimore more. Because they're built on speed. The chiefs can run sideline to sideline with the Baltimore offense. The assuming that New England Beats Miami at home this weekend right. The chiefs will have to play the extra chiefs. If the Games at New England that the chiefs of the one that will have to play the extra game. It might be Tennessee. That's no picnic already lost them. Before then go go on the road twice to do it. They will have the hardest road. Meanwhile let's take a different path as we run the hurry up with you. Orlovsky Lamar Jackson is going to sit out this week. And then they'll have a by so he won't play you for awhile any reason for concern. Absolutely not Lamar still a young player. WHO's dominated the NFL this year? This is exactly what Lamar needed to finish his season in kind kind of dominating fashion and then get healthy. Get some rest. We saw the Carey's add up the last six weeks for him. This rest will be big advantage for the Marin this author how about his star that guy right there mark Ingram running back. He's got caffe he's got a few weeks to get healthy. How significant could this be? This is a big deal. I mean the Mark Ingram on the field is a guy. That's averaging like six yards per carry one. The Mesh point that they go through with that read option is something that takes so many red. So that's a big deal. We saw fumble between them last week and then also just the energy that he brings to this football team that passion. You can't match that by anybody else tonight. We say Aloha to you for the so-fi Hawaiian the Hawaii Bowl. In Honolulu. The quarterbacks could decide this one coal McDonald and Hawaii squaring off against Wilson and Byu. It's eight eastern three Hawaiian Wyan on ESPN and the ESPN APP. Eagles and cowboys this weekend. One makes the playoffs. Another has their hopes smashed. Who will get crushed? D would food is a big man with a mallet. 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It's here he is woody clause today of course because here we are and we have our favorite thing. We're going to smash the helmets so this is going to be our first one. We Got San Francisco. We got Seattle. We have two weapons of choice here. Which one would you like got? Well take this holiday. I'm just going to discard this one. So who do you believe is going to. You will smash the helmet of the team. You believe is going to lose out in the NFC. Wes Yeah listen to NFC west with no about the big matchup right here. But I'M GONNA go. I gotTA listen. Watch out there. Now I WANNA smash the Seattle Seahawks. Let's Russell so Wilson has been a magician for Seattle Seahawk Cobra BILOTTA holes. But I think they don't have the firepower necessary whether it'd be on offense or defense they don't have I'm David Clowney on this ball to really contend with the San Francisco Forty niners for the division quite well done this thing is smashed Smithereens S. That's we lo- we hoped it would be the next one that is up for grabs as the race for the final. AFC Wildcard spot. It is tight end complicated. The Titans steelers and actually the raiders are all in play but F. B. I.. Give the titans the best chance to make it at fifty five percent they win. They're in a loss however opens up a host of other possibilities. So what giving you the titans and the steelers as your options. which team is out? which team gets managed Greeny? You would think that you know with the Pittsburgh steelers playing a Baltimore Ravens team. That's going to be said Noah players. Maybe I'll go with the Tennessee. Titans right raw wrong. I'm listen I know you were just saying you. Wash the Pittsburgh steelers dealers last weekend. Did you see what they had the quarterback position that was the duck. Well there you go. That's the reason why I'm smashing. The Pittsburgh steelers defensively. They've been playing really well but their quarterback situation. Jason has been atrocious and I got more faith in Tennessee. Titans to to get the job I'm going to need to see a replay of that. was that the look away smashed. Did you did that. You like a pet mahomes talk. That was a remarkably athletic. Move Right there by the big fella all right the final one in the NFC the FBI heavily favors the Eagles to win that division. This weekend they currently have a seventy-three percent chance to win. The division. Dallas is still in play. What they need is the eagles to lose to the giants and the cowboys to win at home against Washington Tim so again final playoff spot in the NFC on the line who get smashed? WHO's getting not well? Greeny you know. The The Dallas cub was looked absolutely pathetic last week against the Philadelphia L. Adelphia Eagles and literally. They're hanging on by a thread right now. So I'm really WANNA go with the debt. But I'm going with the Philadelphia Philadelphia. I'm going to Philadelphia Eagles because you know why because I got confidence in Danny Dollars to get the job done. It meant like a team that has nothing nothing to play for and those boys going ball and they're gonNA leave room for the team. Did I'll pick to get to the Super Bowl. The Dow's cowboys just a tiny little piece of that helmets. Helmet's on okay. There you have it as a large man it is a mallet and he's wearing a Santa Hat. We delighted that. You're with us the Laura. Let's go to Cleveland. I think woody clause mash the browns a long time ago but the Browns post-season hopes officially came to an end on Sunday with the loss to the Ravens. Even expect at an all time high in Cleveland heading into the year and yesterday first year head coach Freddie kitchen gotten any assurances. He'll be back no. I got assurance got hired and No not have an won't you know I mean they you know. I don't know how to answer that. It's just doing my job today and I'll continue to do the best job I can possibly do. A lot was expected to Freddie Kitchens in his first year in Cleveland with the pieces around him on this team the result fell very short the browns ranked in the bottom third of the NFL when a number of categories including McKinley yards where they have over one thousand yards of penalties called against him more on the browns we bring back in our NFL. Insider Dan Graziano. And what do we know Dan about the future of kitchens in Cleveland. We don't we don't know what we need to know. which is what the owner wants to do? We know that there are people in the front office. Who would like like to stick to the plan? Bring Freddie Kitchens back maybe make some modifications to how things operate you know with the coaching staff but would like to stick to the plan with Freddie Kitchens who they believed even as recently as eleven months ago when they hired him and thought he could be the Guy Odell Beckham junior they really believe can still be a high level player. They don't want to move on from him. There are people in the Browns organization that faith that this can work. Ed just didn't this year. The building offensive line bringing back. What we don't know is what owner Jimmy has lem will ultimately decide right and he's been unpredictable in his time as browns owner there are times where he's hired and fired very quickly? There are times when he has brought back a coach that went on sixteen. So we really. I don't know exactly until next week when he decides but at this point I think Freddie Kitchens future in Cleveland is certainly one to watch it. Just it's one that could go either way. You mentioned Odell Beckham Junior and they obviously would want to keep him around. Odell said all the right things lately. What do you think in your heart of hearts is going to happen with Odell year ago? Go I told you know chance. The giants are trading him. So I might be the wrong one to ask on this particular player but he didn't WanNa get traded from the giants. I don't think he wants to get traded out of Cleveland. His best friend plays there and he likes the quarterback. And I just think it's gone so badly everyone's gotta get into the off-season take a breath and figure it out. But I know people there in Cleveland. Don't I believe that this is a player who wants out. He's frustrated with losing as he has been at other points in his career and I think the idea is to try and make it right going into next year and if he could be convinced they're heading in the right direction I think he can be happy there and I would say if I had to bet one way or the other. I'd say he's back in Cleveland next year. Yeah it'd be a lot of fun to have Odell Beckham Junior on a winning team. Thanks Dan so look no one takes any pleasure in suggesting a person should be fired but the reality is we're here to judge the job that people do in and these extraordinarily high profile on unique role. So in your opinion to you believe Freddie kitchen should be the coach the browns next year. No He's never once shown himself capable this season of elevating that football team of being a reason why that football team was playing well. I've talked about it often. There's two reasons why you lose in the NFL. There's a lack of talent or a lack of coaching. No one can dispute the amount of talent that is on the Cleveland browns. We've seen game mismanagement. We've seen clocked mismanaging. We've we've seen a lack of creativity on offense. We've seen him misunderstanding his roster. What they aren't at what they're good at and not good at? We've also seen this a big regression by Baker Mayfield. Freddie Kitchens got that job in part because of jump that Baker Mayfield took last year. Baker Mayfield was known for a really good decision making and being accurate the football both those things have gone one eighty this year I for me. It's really black and white you. We're giving the job because the quarterback played well and now the quarterbacks not playing good amongst so many other things. I don't think you can just bring them back not get a lot. I'm more interested in the quarterback than I am in the coach because the coach May or may not be there very long time. The quarterback was the number one pick in the draft. He's a huge name. Who says a lot of things Laura you were with them? I'm all the way into the you know the College Football playoff when he was at Oklahoma the big personality has worked against a bit is bitten in this area. said one thing after another that has made people mad all all the things that sort of made Baker Baker have gone in the opposite direction. I know this is a difficult question to answer. But how do you expect him to handle this. I actually think this could be one of the best things. That's never happened for Baker because he's never been on the failing into things. If you think about Baker's entire career it's been fighting. It's been clawing it's been everyone doubts me. I'm GONNA prove wrong. We'll coming into this season. We all said hey the browns are going to be great. Could be a super bowl team. I mean some people went a little far with that prediction but all admit I thought they would be excellent. I thought he'd be exceptional this year. I thought he'd taken you can even further step forward. So now he's back in this world where he's got approved things and also has people doubting him for real and he's failed. I think this could really see Baker offer. Take that next jump and capitalize on this and and look especially Greenie if they keep Odell Beckham junior if they keep Jarvis Landry. They've still got nick trump. I mean the list goes on and on of all this talent on around him. A Great Bill Parsoes. Say Beware Celebrity quarterback. You know this is a guy that really has an accomplishment anything in the national football league but you see them them all the commercials and doing all these type of things and it's just like wait a minute well. What's the priority is a priority? You know really winning and elevating your franchise or putting your name out there. And this is the pearls of Kinda putting the cart before the horse as far as Baker Mayfield's concern. I'm sure this has been a humbling. Experience Form you think. Getting rid of the head coach might be a step in the right direction as far as getting this organization and primarily Baker Mayfield more focused on. What would really needs to happen so so I just think it's hard for me to sit here and go wow? This guy is a rookie. Broke Peyton Manning Russell Wilson touchdown record also. Can't play like again. This guy has got real accuracy. Here's C. Not accuracy that every quarterback does but he can deal and all of a sudden the struggles showed themselves this year and I agree bakers got a bear the brunt of some of this But I honestly don't believe that Baker can't play in the NFL. I still believe acres. Were the number one. Pick that can be a franchise changing quarterback Ron Rivera Watson and with ten games with this football team. This football team did not lose games because they lacked players. They lost football games because they couldn't manage. They did wrong. Stunt stuff on offense they. They were over penalized. They turn the ball over too much because the stupid stuff they ran an offense. Well let us be a cautionary tale. We've seen this before would be mcadoo with the giants. They have some play call. Success and then organization said Oh wait. Let's elevate him to the head coach. Sharon he's not qualified to be a head coach number Freddie kitchen's not long ago what's up position all of a sudden he's elevated to head coach because of the report he had with his first year quarterback doesn't mean he's coach. I thought Freddie and Baker would do better together I was wrong. There's no team had it top to bottom worse year this year than they did in Cleveland. Meanwhile Aaron Rodgers year gets better and better. He was good not great last night but the packers won the NFC north and they may just be getting started at twelve in three just. How far can this team go? 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"The Stephen Smith Show podcast is the present about capital one card when you earn unlimited double malls on every purchase your next trip is closer than you think. Hey what's in your wallet. This is this even a Smith Show podcast the day so damn predictable every single one of US caught open. Our feelings are egos. There's one thing that takes down a dynasty. That's taken down almost every single one of them in might have taken down a dynasty wants more. There's one thing takes everything down ego. Stephen Smith Show on E._S._P._N.. Radio in the E._S._p._N.. APP Siriusxm Channel Eighty and on E._S._P._N.. News will cain filling in for Stephen. You normally catch me three to six eastern all those same television and radio channels and you can always join the conversation at eight say E._S._p._N.. That's eight seven to nine three seven seven six coming up in just a few moments here on the Stephen Smith Smith Show how about some big bold predictions three years out in the N._F._l.. I'm not talking about power rankings. We talked about the other day whose power ranked tops in the League of the next three years. The Indianapolis Colts came in at number one on that but I'm talking about individual predictions players player movements what's going to happen over the next three years in the N._F._l.. We're GONNA TALK TO E._S._P._N.. N._F._l.. Insider about that in just a moment but if you missed any of today's opening segment where I laid out five live destinations who can logistically in perhaps should trade for Chris Paul who's now at least in terms of trade price an absolute value by go check it out on demand and Stephen Smith podcast brought to you by the capital one venture card earn unlimited double miles on every purchase everyday. What's in your wallet? We are so predictable individually and collectively we always fall prey to the same traps <music>. We always egos get the best of us. They have taken down dynasty today. I was listened to the Dan lebatardshow on E._S._P._N.. Radio which precedes this program on National Radio and he was talking about the Golden State Warriors and Kevin Durant's decision to go to the Brooklyn Brooklyn Nets over remaining with the Golden State Warriors where you could make a very real argument that titles were going to keep coming titles titles titles down the road and let me start said. Isn't it amazing what an EGO can do. It's hard to explain forty years from now to people who don't understand what this time was how and why it ended because the absurdity of it that team all it has to do to win for ten years is get along. That's it you don't have to do anything else else and they couldn't do it. They couldn't even last few years that he was there. It's an amazing testament to ego and this dude must have been so unhappy and it's hard to imagine that he would go there and get more of what he wanted wanted in terms of awards and the game's being easy and the credit that he was getting as best player in the world before took it well get along and stay healthy and it was Dan Laboratory on the Dan Lebatardshow and I'm not sure I would characterize it as the problem in Golden State it. was everyone getting along. I mean we do know the Kevin. Durant draymond green had their blow up. We do know about that but I'm not sure it was like they weren't buddies. They didn't like each other. I think that Golden State Squad was more cohesive more copacetic then most collection of eagles. We can bring together but that doesn't mean that ego wasn't something that brought the warriors down. I mean what did durant leave Golden State for Brooklyn Forum. We're really trying to figure it out validation right. He thought man I'll go to state rack up titles. I'll chase Lebron. I will become the goat I will get myself in the conversation for many of US including myself. He did just that Kevin Durant best player Nimby but for most he didn't that validation alluded him banned Wagner Front runner can't beat them join weakest decision by a superstar and N._B._A.. History that's the words of your man's Stephen here on the Stephen Smith Show and here's the thing I agree with Stephen A it was weak but it didn't keep me from giving Kevin Durant the props that he deserved. It didn't keep me from recognizing recognize reality as it had occurred. Katie was the best player in the N._B._A.. Finals M._v._p.'s shoulder the burden. I knew we'd become no matter how how weak I thought the decision was before I recognize the strength of the play but it's still alluded him. Validation reputation elude him in his ego had that little tickle anymore anymore. What's wrong anymore and forced him out of Golden State? It took him to Brooklyn. We'll have a new duo and new pursuit of yes titles but more importantly validation and that's the thing man Egos. That's the Achilles heel of the human condition. I don't try to speak to professorial there. I'll leave that to my buddy Max Kellerman Eagles just what kills dynasties how about that. Let's just get to that. It's what kills dynasties you you can go through history. Just look at this Dallas Cowboys nineteen ninety s what took down the Dallas Cowboys Free Agency. Yes the the beginning of free agency to play a big part of that come on Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones infamously. I could find a hundred coaches ages while Lincoln the ice in a scotch glass at some Mahogany bar in Dallas smoke filled room. I can find one hundred coaches to coach the cowboys to a championship. No was ten scotches in then do it and if he didn't with Barry Switzer but the point is the egos did take down the Jimmy Johnson Jerry Jones Egos how about Kobe shack about the Lakers he goes to problem and extending that dynasty how about the Bulls Jerry Reinsdorf Phil Jackson that thing have to end when it did in the late nineties have another year in it Katie and Draymond or just K. D. N. K. D.. I mean it's taking teams that aren't even championship. Teams is taken down those on the way how about Seattle about Richard Sherman and Russell Wilson but the defense and Russell Wilson Egos Pittsburgh Antonio Brown on Bell Ben Rothlisberger Egos Egos Man a quick side note on he goes really quickly. How about what he goes is doing to you and me right now? How about what it did us in the last couple of days will cain filling in for Stephen here on E._S._p._N.? Radio how `Bout Egos getting US everyone of US including me to give all of our personal private data to Russia. I WanNa know what I look like when I get old how many of us downloaded face APP and the last couple of days yes I see. I want to see what I look like seventy five. Have you seen face APP. Everybody did it Internet's covered up in it. People download the APP push little button says make me Oh face and then Yo look do that. That's a good you know ten second brain tickle like everything in our life. Oh there you go took my little quickly Gerbil Nugget of distraction on the Internet this time. Would I look like when I'm seventy five in exchange the privacy notice there's like by the way you give all of your data and your likeness in perpetuity in perpetual use for any use that they would like in any revenue they can generate to some Russian hackers. Nice will trade very ego. I do wonder though like how did that work because anybody could use my picture. They could put it in not just me so maybe it's in the downloading of the APP. I Dunno all I know is I'm about to hack by Russia and so we're one hundred and fifty million others of us so that's the only thing we got going force. We're all going down together to our egos on faker face APP or maybe not an own slander any business. Maybe it's just totally legit who knows but egos man from dynasty after dynasty salaries egos comparison buddies. I ask Quinn Richardson Former N._B._A.. Player about this yesterday here on the Stephen a Smith show I said don't they compare salaries. We've read about guys who like he's not good. Why's he make more than me? Here's what Q._A.. Say God thank from situation that situation. That's absolutely true and it's on situation is had absolutely nothing to do with it so I think it goes from from from different from time to time to different scenarios Jose Situation. I don't think it's something you could say as uniform across the board either way. I can't say I've I witnessed situations by say gone in the in the wrong way and other times. It's completely nothing to do with at all. That's Clinton Richton here. The Stephen Smith Show with Wilkin yesterday the steelers the seahawks the warriors the Bulls the Lakers the cowboys you can keep going ego after ego after ego taken down dynasties remember it when it takes down Your Dynasty Stephen Smith Show on E._S._p._N.. Radio's presented by progressive insurance protecting commercial vehicles and offering specialized coverages designed to protect your business more at progressivecommercial dot com. Let's do some bold predictions and other today. I caught up with E._S._P._N.. N._F._l.. Insider Dan Glaviano all right. Let me welcome in now E._S._p._N.. N._F._l.. Insider Dan Grazziano into the Stephen a Smith show with will cain today so Dan has a bold piece up on E._S._p._N.. Dot Com. It's one that I love. It's predicting twenty five different crystal ball. All predictions for the N._F._l.. Over the next three years three twenty twenty two anybody can do one anybody we'd be free this take something about exactly so. I'M GONNA walk through a few of them with you Dan and ask you about these first. Let's start with this cuyler Murray and the Arizona cardinals cardinals will win at least one division title the next three years. I think the offense they'll put together. We'll be there will be accepted enough that it'll it'll propel them that way. I don't think it can be this year because I don't think they have the offensive line right yet. Maybe they do. Maybe they make a big jump there but I think like once they start investing there some of the young receivers come through. I think they're going to be able to score enough points in Arizona to to to deliver a playoff appearance division title over the next three years I mean the rams are the top right now. You know they're very good. They're a little bit highly leveraged. You saw them lose a couple of key guys in the off season so we'll see how they recover from. That isn't a doubt them yet but they could be a short window kind of team. It's less the rams fascinates me about this prediction and the other two teams. You have the cardinals leapfrogging everybody sort of waiting on the San San Francisco Forty niners a moment when is it to Kyle Shanahan and Jimmy Garoppolo come together for something special and nobody to my estimation that I can seize yet predicting the devise of the Seattle seahawks. We all do that last year well not many people did that last year I mean they were. They were the kind of team that you thought Oh they. They lost so many but you know You keep coaching quarterback at that level. You know you're gonNA put something together so there are drafting develop team the believes in their ability to to keep going it yeah. It's too soon to count them out forty niners yeah this a big year for them. They don't show it now then the excuses start to run low kyle Shanahan entering year Shanahan's inch of a six year deal but you know so it gives them some security but you know you start to lose a little bit of that confidence in excitement if you don't start showing if Garoppolos healthy healthy and they don't have the injury problems injury prone they've got to deliver. They've got a win some games or else people start to wonder about the long-term viability of it all right Dan Grazziano here twenty five predictions over the next three years. Here's one of them. He's laid out on E._S._P._N.. DOT COM KIRK COUSINS CNN's will sign a contract extension with the Vikings so I think the question for this is how good or better yet how bad this kirk cousins have to be be for this not true. I think the Vikings are going to have to have a poor season season like an another out of the playoff season in order for them to start start looking for if they have the year that I think they can have which is a division championship season then I think you look at a guy with one year left on his contract who's perfect all and they start talking extension your next offseason they'll have to I mean we know the third years fully guaranteed they could play it out. He certainly no he certainly to that right and playing on a contract here but I think I think they're they're in position to do some good things and if they win enough games yet enough games last year and I know lots been made about his record against winning teams and he knows that he's got to do better but I think there's a step forward coming forward coming in this year that will propel him into the conversation about all right. He's the guy here for the for the long term Dan I think kirk cousins is an average is an ashley slightly above average quarterback in the N._F._l.. Which essentially means he's around fifteen fourteen sixteen if you ranked your quarterbacks across the N._F._l.? But what I feel but he has while the I've had this conversation on the wheel Cain show here on E._S._p._N.. Radio that you don't WanNa find yourself paying top hopped up top quarterback play. What I see is more and more teams afraid to walk away in what what I guess I take away from that Dan and tell me the alternatives? I don't know starting at like sixteen seventeen so right when you get to that below average slightly below average below average is terrifying for N._F._l.. Teams remember when the Oh bugs bunny cartoons. Where are the roadrunner cartoons? Excuse me we're Wiley. Coyote would run off the cliff would run off the running and there's nothing underneath them anymore. That's teams are afraid of feeling like that about quarterback and you're absolutely right. I mean the Dallas I mean look the believe in Dak Prescott but part of their you know willingness to extend him at what I think will end up being very high level is yeah. If we don't then where are we. We're in that quarterback wilderness where we don't know who it's going to be year to year week to week. Sometimes nobody wants to be. You're absolutely right that is a big part of the motivation at at quarterback right now the positions in better shape than it was a couple of years ago in terms of the death league-wide but the idea of having your guy hi and being certain who it is is really driving force in a lot of these and we've really never seen one team walk away from a quarterback Kirk cousins previous employer with the Washington redskins said to themselves. We've seen everything there is to the kirk cousins experiment but I got imagine imagine we were talking about. This pre show Dan like the Detroit lions that as you pointed out the Dallas cowboys the Minnesota Vikings will not at Stafford Dak Prescott or kirk cousins. They'RE GONNA pay whatever it takes to keep their guys because because it's that level of certainty right like if you go back to southern Mike Shanahan told me once it was after ironically. He drafted Robert Griffin than he thought he was said when when you're when you're set at quarterback when you believe you're set of quarterback all your other decisions get easier. You know the the grass looks greener. You know the birds chirp a little a little brighter like everything about your outlook on your team changes for the better and I think that's that that's where you know. If you're the Detroit lions. You got enough problems all of a sudden. You don't know who your quarterback is going to be. Look at Washington. Obviously they thought they had covered with Alex Smith but unfortunate disastrous injury to him now. They're gonNA bring three guys to camp that they don't know which one's going to start and how many games each one's GonNa Start mean there. There's a lot of mystery there and there's no comfort that goes along with that with that E._S._p._N.. N._F._l.. Insider Dan Grazziano here on the Stephen Smith show with Wilkie and he's got a call them up on E._S._p._N.. Dot Com twenty five bold predictions over the next three years of the N._F._l.. Speaking of quarterbacks changing teams you predict that Eli Manning we'll play for a team. I like this one because I think I think Eli Manning doesn't think he's done and if he plays it all well this year. It doesn't matter I mean they're. They're going to go with Daniel Jones if not if not some point this year the next year. He's a number six picking the draft I if he plays well I think he's going to be in position where he wants to keep it going. Get another contract and show he can still do it. He's not he's not particularly old. <hes> in in this era of quarterback performance he can last probably another couple three years physically. He's never been hurt. You know he believes he's. He offers something in terms of reliability so yeah I think he's he's a guy that looks for work else I mean unless he just goes off a cliff this year but I don't know that that's necessarily guaranteed to happen. The way the way their offense is going to run in terms of the short completions in high percentage and all that stuff I think I think you can come out of this year convinced that Eli Manning has something left and if he's convinced that then yeah I think he's going to be looking around for starting opportunity somewhere else. I just have such a hard time seeing Eli Manning as traveling veteran looking for job. We just laid out the quarterback landscape in below that below average category that we laid out is teams full of rookie quarterback's teams in the Josh Rosen. Dwayne Haskins drew lock. Let me see what I have for the future type of a situation I I don't see Eli manning fallen into that case keenum category so what he really travel on the League looking at the one or two teams that are in need of average veteran quarterback whether some interesting possible options right if Marcus Mariota doesn't have a good year year than Tennessee's looking right if drew brees retires than allies father's team is looking right so <hes> you know you have some some spots where things could open up and Tom Brady could retire right. I mean Ben Rothlisberger. Philip rivers these guys getting toward the end so there are some interesting writing potential destinations where that rookie successor is not necessarily in line and I think that's that's interesting. Of course you don't know again. Injuries are a part of the game you wouldn't have. You would have expected an opening in Washington this year so there's stuff that we don't foresee but yeah I think there's some interesting potential situations next year that where he wouldn't necessarily have to fight off a young Guy Tennessee and New Orleans those are fascinating situations depending on a lot of things right I mean we don't know what's going to happen APP. Marcus Mariota could make the pro bowl. Is your sign a long-term deal but he's got got show something right another guy you have changing teams of the next three years guided just signed with his current team. That's lady on bell changing teams. Again is a point about the contract. It's really a two year contract the levy on bell signed with the jets and they can get out of it after two years. He's actually if they if they wanted to easier to trade next off season that he would have been this year so a lot has been made about the relationship with the new coach Adam gays whether he was on board with the contract. You know they're going coexist right. Now and things seem fine but you know if things go wrong if they don't win you know we've seen gays as a guy that isn't afraid to to ship guys out of town even when they're high performers so I think the point is two years and there's always so much uncertainty with that franchise franchise that I could definitely see that being something that that where he changes teams yet again E._S._P._N.. N._F._L. Insider Dan Graziano here on the Stephen a Smith show with will cain fillon and he's got a call them up with twenty five bold predictions over the next three years in the N._F._l.. We talked about Eli manning changing teams on bell changing teams one other guy that Dan suggests will be changing teams of the next three years is Miami Dolphins quarterback Josh Rosen now when he went to Miami Dan I laid this out over on the will cain show. I said the poor guy has been put in a situation where it's GonNa be impossible for him to succeed. It's terrible team with a terrible offensive line and a team that already seems to be in the mode of tanking for two or just in Herbert or whoever it may be at the top of the quarterback draft next year so I don't know what Josh Rosen can do to truly really succeed. The answer. I'm sure is win right. Go ahead and win yourself into a position where you have a job but let's assume that doesn't happen. I don't think the league should be done with Josh Rosen. I assume somebody out there still believes this guy can be a franchise quarterback top ten pick a year ago so yeah. Look the dolphins are in a position where they're not heavily committed. Arizona pay the signing bonus so the the dolphins if they if he's not there guy can move on with almost no pain in terms of <hes> of money. That's left on the deal after this year so it's all upside for them for him. He's got a first of all you gotTa beat out Ryan Fitzpatrick and start and yeah I think they would have to win but you know I think into a situation where they win five games or six games right and now they're not picking in the top three and Rosen played well showed enough then maybe you could be a situation where we weren't in position a draft to or Justin Herbert but this guy was a top ten. Pick in two thousand eighteen has shown enough so you know I I kind of. I think you kind of if you like Josh Rosen. If you think he can be good you Kinda pull for that outcome become that he shows enough in Miami and and establish himself as the starter their long-term but it seems like I'm with you. I think the dolphins are in a mode of looking beyond this year and I think he would have to do something spectacular for them this year in order for them to lock in on him beyond our last prediction with Dan Graziano here on the Stephen Smith will cain seems to be one that we share an opinion on and that is the league is thrown dirt on the Pittsburgh steelers a little bit too early right all the hype around the Cleveland Browns. You predict that over the next three years to Pittsburgh steelers dealers will win more A._F._C. North Division titles in the Cleveland browns which could mean to one or one nothing so it's not but yeah I mean this is Mike Tomlin and Ben Rothlisberger have never had losing seasons of they've never ever lost more games than they've won in a season so I I think people underestimate and I also think the steelers are going to be a real chip on their shoulder unit this year because Brown's haven't won the division since nineteen eighty nine steelers all the time. What are the browse and when you have a when you have an organization that's used to winning and all of a sudden everybody jumps on the bandwagon of a team? That's never ever one that I organization starts to get its backup. I remember as my covered the Yankees years ago and people like Oh. You know this could be Tampa Bay's year in the Tampa Bay come on once it was is but it took a while but yeah I think the steelers are going to have a real rallying cry. This year in terms of people are giving up on us. That's all coaches used that they can actually say it. I mean the browns are going to be. Everybody's picking the A._F._C. North so yeah I I have a feeling the steelers are going be highly motivated and still well-coached and still well quarterback and they're gonNA be real tough to deal with all right. Dan Appreciate it. You got that's E._S._P._N.. N._F._L. Insider Dan Graziano who has his call them up twenty five bold old predictions over the next three years in the N._F._l.. Go check it out on E._S._P._N.. Dot Com all right. We didn't talk about their Aaron Rodgers and his relationship with his new coach. We didn't talk about whether or not Mitch Trubisky can get Chicago bears over the Hump into real super bowl convention. We didn't talk about Kirk cousins while we did when I gets new deal but can he do it this year with the vikings the N._F._C. North is full full of quarterback questions Thursday night. Just be one guy one quarterback who has the fewest questions dancer. I'll it out coming up in just a minute here on the Stephen a Smith Show on E._S._p._N.. Radio with will cain filling in for Steven when it comes to hiring. You don't have time to waste. I you need help getting to your shortlist of qualified candidates fast. That's why you need indeed dot Com post. 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That's Chris Paul Point Guard begin to the back to that in just a moment here on the Stephen a Smith show but I just talking about egos taken they can down dynasties and Matt in Delaware Stephen. A Smith show was Wilkin. What's up Matt today doing doing all right? How are you doing? I'm doing good today all right yeah I I just had him point on what you said about Egos I think the four biggest egos and the whole league are all playing together in two different pairs <hes> that being Kevin Durant and Kyrie I think that's one anyone be utilize and then brought James Russell Westbrook in the second pair of biggest ego than the League but I think both scenarios are GonNA end up different. Though I think actually Russell James are going to end up winning a lot more games than Kyrie in Katie. You'RE GONNA end up winning well. Here's the thing that I I actually like how your framing is. I don't know that I would say the biggest egos in the league. But how about this the most explosive pairing of EGOS in the League. We don't have any idea what's going to come of K. D. and Kyrie together I mean we're here that they're buddies bodies. They've never been together and he kind of long-term partnership but we're talking about one guy who's proven very sensitive to any kind of criticism searching for validation no matter how much professional or personal achievement he gets. It seems to be not enough to fill the void and another guy who at best we're just going to have to say is Inigo Matic. I mean I don't even know what to say about Kyrie Irving all I mean I don't know earth is flat. It's not flat if there is no distraction. If you're very much woke his latest yet another one what was the newest one Oh yeah when he oh bowel reports reports he walking into a team meeting Rad. Stephen Says Hey Kyrenia morning car races coach. What does the term government mean to you in Kid Outta here man? I don't need that stuff yeah who knows how that's going to end. I mean Kyrie and Katie together. I don't know and Westbrook and Hardin man. That's just that's that's. That's explosive in terms of two guys need the ball want the ball Alpha Guys WanNa be. The finishers want to be the ball handlers. Nobody's GONNA take a back seat in that relationship so but they're buddies again but it's been a long time. It's been seven years and there's been a lot of personal growth in that time frame a lot of independence a lot. I'm the man so how's that going to come together. That's let's say that's explosive. Will Cain fill in for Stephen. Let's move to football A._F._C. North. I'm sorry check that N._F._C.. North four quarterbacks four quarterbacks with some questions to answer Aaron Rodgers and Green Bay Mitch Trubisky in Chicago Matt Matt Stafford in Detroit and Kirk cousins and Minnesota but which quarterback has the most questions to answer. I let me go to Johnny and Georgia what's up. Johnny on the Stephen. Smith show is will cain will commits a big fan and when you're talking about Ego Jack the biggest ego on the planet has got to be Max Kellerman for sure anyway the Stafford <hes> I watched I appreciate you at least Stafford the top fifteen quarterback <hes> on the show today because he never get to respect on any of the sports candles <hes> but I think that Stafford actually probably ten <hes> giving back that he's only had a thousand yard rusher one one time is all career <hes>. He's only had one hundred yard rusher first time last year says Reggie Bush did it <hes> no offense have lines but I think the lions are actually probably a year now know about this year but. Next year there on the verge of some big things and it's never would have had a playoff win if it wasn't for the bogus pick up the flag pass interference. I guess you're down now now now. Now you know that was a bogus call but that would have been as I playoff win. You just take a shot in the dark here Johnny Yeah. It's going to Georgia yes sir. I don't know how to figure that yeah well. I grew up in. I grew up in Detroit but I was stationed that store so I stayed. I got out of the Army so you went to Georgia and you are from Detroit. Yeah you're about as close as it gets to a Matt Stafford Fan as he gets right. I mean yeah actually last two years has even tickets flew back for every game man. Here's what I'd say. Thanks for the call. Johnny I appreciate and I appreciate you. Tell me you present have messed Stafford's back. The question on I take today to Johnny saw was is Matt Stafford overrated rated. I made the argument that he is not Matt. Max Kellerman made argument that he is with his number one overall selection in the draft and it's twenty seven million dollar contract in his Owen Three playoff record with no division titles Mass Kellerman contended that Matt Stafford Word is overrated. Here's what I had to say. Matt Stafford got paid what he was paid because he reached the pay window at that time twenty seven million dollars was what quarterbacks for making and soon that will have him right about where he is in in the league which is probably as Johnny ten eleven twelve and get back to that in just a second and also he's a franchise quarterback until he's taken number. One overall Stafford has had a five thousand yard season. He's had a forty plus. Touchdown season hasn't had them in a while but but I believe he's been surrounded by nothing for a long time. I'm not talking about his weapons. I'm talking about his offense his running game his offensive line. I believe the Matt Stafford is the second best quarterback in the N._F._C.. North North on I think he goes Aaron Rodgers and then Matt Stafford. I believe you can despite the fact that they've Never WanNa playoff game and let me get you some this is this is serious at some point. I acknowledged. He's got a win. It's got to translate but I think Matt Stafford can win and my my parallel is Tony Romo. I don't think Stafford is as good as Tony Romo ever was but I know that when Tony Romo was rained in given a strong running game given an offensive line Tony Romo without being the gunslinger that he was became a better quarterback. That's what Matt Stafford Needs May Be Daryl Beverley. WHO's coming over from the Seattle seahawks? Is that offense coordinator. Maybe carry on Johnson is that running back on into his second year but I believe Matt Stafford who throws the ball downfield. Who's going to give you two to three touchdown to interception ratio? Who's going to complete sixty? Six percent of his passes is the second best quarterback in that division and if I'm lining up quarterbacks in the the N._F._C. North he's actually want to have the least questions about I think I know who Matt Stafford is now back to who he is. I said this morning on first date. Twelve thirteen I think year ago Ahmad even had him closer sorta five. I gotta be real about that. He's probably in that ten eleven twelve range I think he's below Dak Prescott and below Carson Wentz. I think he's above kirk cousins. I think Matt Stafford is good. Would he has something more to prove if he's great but when it comes to the other quarterbacks that division think about this can Aaron Rodgers be coached by a first year head coach. Is it going to work out with Matt the floor is he gonNa let him call his plays as you're not gonNA audible out of them as you're not gonNA freelance by like he did a year ago which by reports where he did almost half the time with Mike McCarthy can kirk cousins live up to his deal can perform with that vikings his team up to the level that case keenum did kirk cousins has questions to answer and Mitch trubisky going into his third year has a team that is good enough. Is he good enough to be the leader of that Chicago bears team that TAKES THEM TO PLAYOFF SUCCESS DUnno. If you're asking questions about those N._F._C. North quarterbacks I have the fewest about Matt Stafford and I'll take him second in a draft among those four quarterbacks all right got one second eleven Stephen Smith show with will cain. You can normally catch three to six eastern on E._S._P._N.. Radio I asked or I told you earlier where and who should look Chris Paul as a value by and make a trade. I get to your calls next on E._S._P._N.. Radio Wilkin for Stephanie Guess what you're in the middle of Stephen Smith Show podcast Devon got an update from the open championship at Royal Portrush in Northern Ireland too big names to busts of a day so far tiger woods is six over through seventeen holes in Roy mcelroy from Northern Ireland a favourite going into this tournament eight over and he is through eighteen. Today is in the clubhouse at eight over. He had a quadruple bogey on the first whole some big names J. B. Homes first of all is your leader at five hundred followed by Shane lowery and Jon Rahm. Here's some some big names for you over at the Open Championship Brooks Kepco is three under Justin rose and Jason Day are both at two-under and Jordan speeds and Ricky Fowler are at one under-par within striking distance after the first day at the open championship. Let's it up to shell pennzoil performance line and Stephen a Smith Show on E._S._p._N.. Radio will cain filling in for Stephen. You can normally catch me three to six eastern on E._S._p._N.. Radio and E._S._P._N.. News let's go to Dan and Kansas City. What's up Dan Anyway? Well how you doing all I can make two points. I think the Celtics they're going to be a force would Kemba Walker next year and I always heard that Chris. Paul wants to play with Lebron. Do you think the Lakers will have enough to case a well. How Nice Day thanks Dan appreciate it? I do not think the Lakers have the the contracts the players to pull off now right now. Okay come December when they can trade guys. They signed him free agency. I played with them last night on the trade machine it could put contagious caldwell-pope well pope in there and no man's hard to get to thirty eight million dollars. That's the thing Chris Paul's thirty eight million dollars a year right now and you got out of salaries to get close to that a little bit earlier in the Stephen a Smith show as for right now right now I gave you five live teams that I thought had the contracts and ability to pull it off in at least should think about pulling off a trade for Chris Paul who at least in terms of trade value trade price is a value by terms contract. It's expensive is gates what you have to give up as low as it gets right now. Those five teams number five the Dallas Mavericks number four the Minnesota Timber Wolves number three the San Antonio Spurs number to Orlando Magic and number one of course is the team that everyone has us Chris Paul penciled into and that is the Miami Heat but the Miami Heat currently have to draft picks that live in Oklahoma City may want him back. They want him back as the tax for taking on Chris Paul's contract I will say this. There's two other teams that just land outside my top five teams that I did consider and play with one of them was the New York Knicks New York Knicks have stockpiled about three or four powerful words at fifteen million dollars a year. You put a couple of those together new. Get to Chris Paul's contract status. Nick said they're not interested in Chris Paul but come December when they can trade guys who are signing free agency he tell you this. The Knicks can get it done and the other team and this is just weird but you have to deal with the fact that the N._B._A.. Is Weird is the Washington Wizards John Wall for Chris Paul. You have to throw in a little more with John Wall to get it done but if we're gonNA trade what Westbrook for Paul how about wall for Paul I can't make sense for either. I'm like why would the wizards go in on Chris Ball his deal. Both of them have ridiculous deals is one year shorter than John Walls so the wizards get out from under one year of that contract and what are the thunder under get out of that like maybe the John Wall they convince themselves as a centerpiece for their rebuild but I doubt it doubt that seriously they're already got shake. You'll just Alexander and they think they're gonNA try him out at point guard but I mean who knows an N._B._A.. Who knows all right so let's go to Eli in Kentucky? What's up Eli? You're on the Stephen. A Smith Show is will cain Brown here like playoff contenders you lie. I do think they're going to be playoff contenders. I think they're one of two teams. Thanks for the call in the A._F._C.. North that are playoff contenders. I laid it out yesterday. I think it is one of the weakest divisions in the N._F._l.. As far as producing superbowl contenders steelers and Browns playoff contenders I don't see either of them <unk> as real superbowl contenders this year but you know what my thoughts are on the Brunswick. Everybody thought sorry like most hype team in the N._F._l.. Right now everybody loves the BROWNS. I saw the steelers over the browns in the division all right it was going to ask you my rental core question but I'm F- to save that here's the question okay. Let's talk about this tomorrow do when you're at the rental car place and you can pick from your I'll. Do you ever get the Compact S._U._V..

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"Saddam show here on ESPN LA Kirk Morrison hanging out at his draft day part do second and third round today. Will we're doing a show. So does that you were just doing football today? But we will be honed in on what's going on in the draft. Because the Rams Evanston picks today. Yeah. And the raiders have picks today. And the chargers have picks today, and we will have guests. The Rams are providing their picks for us shortly after their drafted the ran the chargers are given us Tillery. Right. The young man that's Hillary the defensive tackle out of Notre Dame. He's gonna stop in. Dan, Grozny Yano is going to check in with us in a couple of minutes. Right. He's at raiders for ESPN. So let's do this. We talked about it yesterday. But we did it in real time for those that didn't get a chance to hear it in real time. I think the biggest shock the two biggest shocks were the raiders. Correct. Taking your boy from from Clemson fairl. Yep. Ferrall or Ferrell Ferrel Cleveland feral? Okay. 'cause somebody on TV was saying ferrall for whatever reason. But Roger Goodell announced the pig. Okay. Cleland Farrell, and of course, the giants take Daniel Jones at six let's start with the raiders because people here are more interested in that. Right. How can so and good for the kid, right? The catches made an extra twenty million dollars. But how can the raiders justify taking a guy at four that most everyone had on there? All these guys that do this stuff we're living. Now, granted they're not necessarily the guy's making decisions on these team. But they are informed by guys who make decisions on these teams. Right. How is it? A guy that at best. I saw him at Twenty-one. Elsewhere, right. Mostly in the mid twenties. Maybe even you know early thirties. How does that guy end up at four because the people who are draft experts or prognosticators they only have thirty percent of the information. The raiders have all the information. They've been able to vet a lot of these players and this year's national championship game between Clemson and Alabama was weird George it was at Levi stadium in the bay area. Santa Clare twenty minutes from Oakland, California. That's one of the games in which Jon Gruden Mike Mayock were they were able to go down and scout and recruit and go lick it. You know, the size of players in Cleveland furrow was the one guy who was just dominant. He was dominant the last month of the season. Right. And I had a call a couple of sources today. George, okay. All this source. You had a call a couple of sources you're like Stephen ain't house. I wanted to get, you know, give me more information on this. I wanted to call a couple of people who I trust who understand the process of what they're going and what they're doing. And with the people who I talked to today, basically said the Cleland furrow pick is what they call a foundational pick. He is a guy that they feel is going to be there for ten years, right more. And he probably won't be of the, you know, the monster Nasek numbers, but he's a guy of high character. And it was a guy who they can build their defense around. He's a guy up that is going to bring instant energy. And I think what they value is probably more than what, you know, Mel kiper, Todd mcshay. I the people who aren't in that broom, right? Wow. So if they're not in that building this is what they're priding on. This is what they're bringing in a guy who played the league level a national champion who knows how to win. That's the reason why they went for this picking from the. Nations that I got I'm not saying I would have done it. Right. But I understand you at least get it better. I get it better. It's still crazy. It's you think it's a bit of a reach. And I think it's a bit of a reach because you you feel that you could have got him later in the round. That's all. But if he's that foundational piece in and then this is another thing to act kind of could throw it out there as well. The Rams have a guy by the name of Dante Fowler, right? People. Forget Dante follow was three overall pick. And the Jacksonville Jaguars who was almost considered a top elite pass rusher. Well, he was traded from the Jaguars in three years. So just because you draft a guy high does it mean that you're going to hit on that player right away? And so, but they're scrutinized more because is more. But I think that this is a different type of peace, and then I had to go to the defense of coordinators Mike Zimmer then you go through Paul Guenther. Right. Paul Guenther defensive coordinator now with Oakland, Raiders, right? Yeah. Because Gruden data right? Rile up all the old guys. So you gotta understand the history of these defensive coaches Mike Zimmer is not a head coach over in Minnesota. But it was wants to coordinator over in in Cincinnati. So Cleveland pharaoh fits guys who they've had in their organization. So I had to go out and vet why they did it. And after I sat down and said make sense. It may not be sexy. Everybody else out there. Right. And it won't be sexy. Right. But that's the piece that they needed. And then they got the best running back into draft who and Josh take. Well, they did they did do that for sure. And he went in the right spot though, he went and kind of the low twenty s or mid twenties, which is where you expect him to go. We'll get more on the raiders from Dan Roz Yanna. Oh, ESPN NFL insider who's stationed with the raiders. We'll talk about that. We'll give you the latest on Rosen. Maybe he's got some into on that you know, what we should you should take Jeff Darlington. He's all over the Josh Rosen thing because obviously let them know their LA kid angle people here interested, so we'll get into rose into a little bit. But let's talk to Dan Glaviano. Back in three minutes. Kirk hanging out Sodano show, ESPN LA Saddam show here on ESPN LA Kirk Morrison hanging out with this year. So wait for Ziada. We're going to have some audio from Steve Smith former wide receiver for the Carolina, man. He's just killing Josh Rosen. And it sounds cool. Like, y'all gonna get hyped up listening to it some of you. But I don't, you know, Kirk you you said it best in the break. It's not very realistic realistic. So we'll we'll let you listen to it. We just tease it a little bit. But he goes in like hard on Joshua's challenges manhood. Yeah. Right, which I feel like is out of bounds. Like you. Ain't you ain't lining up against people anymore menu. You on a set now. Right. Okay. And people are gonna keep receipts of what you're saying. Yeah. Okay. You can back it up on the field. But in front of that camera is a little different. Now. He's he's one of those guys that you know, he's gonna talk loud. He's been that way played against him in college. What he's at the university of Utah. And he took took the town one of our corners. And he was in there and let them know. And let him know said, basically, you know, come like, the rock, the babe. He kind of Scituate with Russell Westbrook. He was very much like Russell Westbrook is he's been like that since since day one. Let's go to Dan Graziano, our buddy ESPN NBA NFL insider saris at the raiders or with the raiders here for the draft. So kurkin I, Dan. And thank you for hanging out. We were just trying to figure out this Cleveland feral thing. Now Kirk is talked to some people. He kinda gets it. He's still thinks a bit of a reach. But what were the things the raiders said to you about him that solidified his position in their on their draft board? You know, the word characters being thrown around a lot. And I think you know, you hear it a lot. But you know, it's the guy comes from military family that you know, is overcome adversity in his life that played at extremely high level program cleansing and did a lot of winning that they felt like in their research. He he came back as somebody who was leader on that team. And it says a lot when you're on a team that accomplishes something like they did. And and you're one of the leaders. I mean that that that's something. I mean, look, I it's difficult to reach you know, talking to people around the league like was it early to take him? Yes. But that doesn't mean he won't be good player and everybody had him in the first round. You know, it's not like you smell like they took a guy at four had a second round grade. So I think you know, they they looked to trade back. And and they just felt like they couldn't really get a good trade. And they took a guy that they had rated as one of the top two edge guys in the class. I gotta say management the kid. I mean, he's. He all three of the Gusset picked. I've really make an excellent first impression, and I mean, just incredibly confident well, prepare solid seeming. You know, young men it looks like they really did their homework on what type of guys they were getting one of the things that that you keep hearing his character strong. Character wasn't a character problem in Oakland that we're not hearing because you know, obviously, they traded away some big names, the Khalil max, and Amari Cooper now marshawn Lynch retires are this is this a culture change that they feel that they needed to make in terms of the guys who are drafting, I don't think so. And I think that's a really good point to address because I don't think this is the kind of thing where they felt like the culture here was bad, and they got an overhaul it this is a Jon Gruden came in last year. He felt like the roster needed an overhaul and he made decisions on Khalil Mack, and Amari Cooper that he wasn't gonna spend to keep those guys long-term. So get get first round picks for them. You know, that makes some sense if you're not gonna keep the guy, but. What they what they're looking at is a franchise that a has to rebuild from a, you know, a stretch of where they haven't had more success and be a franchise. It's moving next year. You know? So there's going to be upheaval around here. There's going to be a lot going on that other teams aren't dealing with in the coming year year or two, and and they wanted people who they felt like they could trust to to maintain the solidity of focus if you will right in the locker room and around the team. So that was a big part of it too. So not just building your team and your roster with the right kind of guy but also factory and the you as a franchise you've being the raiders are going to be enduring stuff that other people in the league aren't going to over the over the next year or so I think that's a big part of it as well. I think the biggest winner. No Dan of the raiders in the first round the biggest winner was their car and well. Has become a he didn't get a receiver. You gotta run. But no, I think he's the biggest winner because it finally can kind of put to rest what a lot of people were thinking we all knew that Gruden liked Derek Carr. But was he truly in love with Derek? Was he going to be married to Derek? I think by them yesterday. What they did. It shows his commitment Gruden in may that they believe that. Derek Carr is the quarterback of the raiders for the future. And there there is no wavering in that decision. Well, I would I'm going to hold off for about an hour making that assessment because they got the third pick tonight and pick thirty five. Quarterback out there, including drew lock who was their quarterback at the senior bowl. I mean, you know, so there's until we see that tonight. Go by I think, you gotta at least wait on that. But look, you know, I think even if they were to make a pick like that. I still think you know, cars the guy right now for this year. And I don't think there's any reason to to to worry about that. But yeah, we'll we'll see. I mean, I think it's you know. Yes, did he get a receiver last night? No. But he got to and free agency. You know print Brown and tyrel Williams. They beefed up the offensive line. They gotta running back wouldn't shock. Anybody? Tonight's pick was a guard or tight end, you know, some of it something else to help their daughter. I think that's probably more likely than a quarterback. Although I told you know, by a couple of sources close to the situation today did not rule them out on lock in particular so eager to see what unfolds here and like I said in the next half hour hours. So Dan Grozny Yano ESPN NFL insider with this year. He's at the raiders for the draft. I just think they need to go corner or something because their defense their secondary was atrocious last year and look what they've done right. They had to safety last night sort of the hard hitting Bach safety type in John Abram, Mississippi State, he signed the markets Joyner of I my understanding is they plan to play him at that nickel corner spot. They feel like he's he's excellent there, and he's willing there. So if they could they could be the corner and the good this is this is this players. Now there right now, I mean, picking third tonight, and you I mean, I think they they'd love to trade down 'cause they don't have a third round pick right now. But if they stay put, you know, you could find that guard you could find that tight end, you could certainly find that corner. There's a lot of a lot of different ways they could go if they keep that pick. And yeah, I, obviously if you're talking about building, a raw, you know, you're committed financially Derek Carr, you believe in him. It would probably make sense to go that way. But the flip side is if you have a quarterback that you have a first round grade on and he's sitting there in a second round. It's sometimes people find that hard to pass up. Yeah. That's gonna be a tough one. Yeah. We'll see. I don't know. So you mentioned the name Antonio Brown. What are the raiders now saying about Antonio Brown as of right now as they continue to still build their draft out? You mentioned the tide impositions something that they can address obviously JIRA cook they left in free agency. He's no longer there. So when you look at the raiders offense right now is that the missing piece where could you still see strongly going offense of line I and baby fill in a tied imposition a little bit later or even trading for one. And they have death at tight end that they like what they don't have. You know, what they don't have right now at somebody who profiles as the kind of playmaker. Jared cook was for them last year. Now, did they did they do enough to receiver that that the navy the offense? And that's not as big a priority. You might be able to make that argument. But you know, I think if there's a tight end there, they feel I could really kind of be that dynamic guy that cooked was for them steer. It will be enticing. I don't think it's crazy that they would go receiver again that's a position where you don't Gruden doesn't necessarily feel like you could ever be too deep. Again, I was told starting guard with something they would like to come out of the first two nights the draft with. So there's some offense of Lyman sitting there that are that are pretty good. So in terms of the offense. Yeah. I mean, they I think Josh Jacobs pick is they he profiles for them as a three down back who can pass the and actually comes out of Alabama. Not not having been super overworked. They're either which is nice, but and then receiver they hit hard and free agency. So yeah, look at look at tight end and look offense of line. It was places where they probably can you know, if they if they find a guy, I think is a premium guy at that spot that they wouldn't be afraid that danger. Your boots on the ground down there in Oakland. So the reason why I say that is because have the scouts been allowed to reenter the graph room. That's right. Yeah. Or are they still outside and how was his draft dynamic working with the raiders? Is it just Gruden and Mayock and maybe owner Mark Davis. Or is it? How was how was it being played out right now in Oakland? Yeah. I haven't yet inflated me in it's hard to say for sure look, it's tight circle. And nothing nothing illustrates better than than the fact that they were able to keep the Cleveland feral pick a complete surprised everyone. I mean, I defy you to find the one single person who before last night said well, look at Ferrol for the raiders, I can't find it on the internet. So it's Mayock. It's gruden. I'm sure Mark Davis. You know, very a very tight circle in there. And that's who's making the decisions. And and in terms of the thing with the scouts may address. It last night. He said, you know, he doesn't understand the big deal. It's you know, there's some scouts that are gonna be here some scouts that. Aren't they didn't? What leaks? They wanted to tighten that circle. And he felt like by the time that they were sent home that their job was done. I mean once the boards put together the scouts are done. Right. They're not gonna they're not gonna make the pick. So they they didn't have to be in all the the mock trade scenarios that they were working out here. Those couple of days before the draft. So they just wanted to people who were gonna be in the room on Thursday and Friday and Saturday to be the ones left dealing with all this Yano NFL insider. Yes. Bien with the raiders, Dan. Always a pleasure. Thanks for making time for us. My pleasure guys. Thanks for having me. You gotta take their ears. I coming up next. There is some news on Josh Rosen. Stick around we are back, four minutes, sit down and show here on ESPN LA. What's up hoping join your Friday? It is Friday. You ain't got a job. You ain't got bleep do lasted a week baby. Yes, sir. And hopefully, you're enjoying your drive home. I know it's always tough, you know, the traffic, but it's Friday feeling better about it. You know, everything looks a little nicer the smog, smells a little sweeter. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? But no in general it just like dog. I'm finally going home at least for the weekend. Get your thing going on whatever you got going on you're going to joy it. So hope you're enjoying your Friday. We appreciate you sticking around with us. And we'll get you kinda locked and loaded. What's going on with the draft? So here's the deal. Josh rosen. Adam schefters got something going on right now about Josh Rosen. But before we get to that. Okay. Steve Smith on the NFL network. Former player right with in on Josh Rosen because Josh Rosen un-filed the cardinals on Instagram and on Twitter, whatever. So here's what Steve Smith said. And he's arguing with Chris rose who's hosting the NFL network day to coverage. So now, you're mad because they brush competition here. So you don't try to take your ball for funds of all Sunday night to Dan ball to take? Anyway. So you just keep playing every team is drafting we got six to six rounds in next couple of days guys are getting replace. You are replaceable know what they say in the league to more. You could do it helps you opportunity. So now, you're mad because they brought some competition here. So you don't try to take your ball for first of all Sunday night to damn ball to take. Anyway. So you just keep playing with your phone, and you keep showing us what what the stigma up you. And who you were was at UCLA. Now, you brought it to the professional level showed us, you still gonna when things don't go your way, you're gonna cry in the corner, but guess what they're gonna ship your ass on somewhere else. And you can go cry and beat her probably listen, this is a man's gain. Be man and go against that, man. One on one he gets in place. You get ten place. Do your. You ain't nobody gives you only get on right now. There's a free Ashworth and everything else. You've got to work hard for. Let's say Josh wrote. Now, look all that sounds cool. And it's great TV TV talk. But I don't necessarily feel like that's great analysis because you played in this league is not a fair fight Chris roses, right? I love Steve Smith one of my guys every time. I see him. I said man, they still giving people microphones. I always tell them that because that analysis right? There is it's just off. And the reason why say it's off is because I've lived the situation. I know the situation Josh Rosen. His in two thousand ten I was linebacker with the raiders. So I spent my first five years there. Led the team in tackles every single year going into year six with the raiders everything's all good eighth pick that year two thousand ten raiders draft the guy by name relondo McClain. Oh on Alabama out Alabama. Oh, okay. He plays middle linebacker. I play middle linebacker. You know, what I want to trade requested a trade that me that weekend wanted to be out of here. And I'm like, well, why don't you wanna stay? You could just move to the outside. I said no when you draft a guy in the first round, George that guy's gonna play. Correct. He is going to play. Well, but you know, he Tim play list museo. He gets Tim player. You get the first round draft picks. Why are they so important why the most important day at a draft? You know, why? Because the financial investment of first rounder, especially the number one over a number one overall pick. Put like this. This is what Steve has to. Remember? There's player personnel people general managers executives if Josh Rosen were to go out there and outplay Kyla Murray. Then everybody's gonna say then why did you draft collar Murray when you got a better quarterback here? Right. They're going to ship. Josh Rosen out yet. It's a foregone conclusion. He's just a he's just breaking ties right now. Let's end it right now. Because if you end it now, I can go somewhere else and start over what he wants. He wants a new start just the same thing. And I understand so we can blame him. But let Steve Smith saying, oh, he testing your manhood, and you don't wanna go out there and compete. I don't want to compete in a situation. I know I'm already I've already lost. Like, you've already coaches come in ready chose that dude. Yeah. Because right. Steven Steven Smith was saying you get ten reps. He gets in. It's not going to be that way is not going to be a fair, basically cliff Kingsbury came in and said, you know, what I'm drafting a quarterback when overall. Jerry Gulf was here with the Rams Sean McVay walked in and said, you know, what I'm going to keep him. I'm going to mould him. Right. I am not going to trade for Kirk cousins. Remember there were quarterbacks that were around. Yeah. That the Rams could have said, you know, what shall McVay who were the quarterbacks. Refresh people's memory Kirk cousins available. Right. I know somebody may not be as sexy paid for right buddy coached him. He had coached him. So he had a guy like that was in the draft that year that year ago two years ago when he seventeen NFL drums, you have more. No, no, Mark. They were the year before. So this was. I'm trying to think who was the year after that. So the 2017 raft you had Myles Garrett Mitch Trubisky. Mitch Trubisky yet, I think Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. So the the Rams could have to Shawn Watson. But I think because of the draft capital at the Rams gave up was way too much for cheer golf and not way too much when they traded. Yeah. But when you look at it now, like the Rams did it didn't sells a favor like they're looking like did we give up enough for JIRA Gulf, right? But I thing was a real thing. Kirk cousins was more of the real thing. Now that was more of a, hey, you've coached him. You know, bring them in even Robert Griffin a third. Hey, right. Not bring him in. You're listening system. You're just in case be in Los Angeles, by the way. But you're right. So it's not it's not a fair fight. And again, you're speaking from a position of experience I've been there and everybody said, well, why didn't you just go out there? And I said do you drafted that man? Eight overall, right. I know how that situation go. Yeah. I been there before. Right. So I I don't I don't I don't wanna be in that I've seen it. It happens to everyone. I mean, I'm watching it right now with the raiders right now, they drafted crawl Joseph member couple of safety outta G a couple of years ago. Well, what did the raiders do in the last couple of days, they signed first of all the markets joining the forest safety of the ram, right? He signed him to a long term, and they just drafted a safety last night. John neighbor. Right. Somebody's going to be out. So if there's going to be an odd man out, I'll just say, hey, look instead of having to go out there and play this game of competing. Let's just move on. And let's go and right now the cardinals are actually on the clock, by the way as the start of the second round is underway. George by the way, second round of the NFL draft will Arizona is on the clock. And you had just mentioned it. So here's what Adam Schefter saying about. Josh rosen. Two teams to watch tonight on Missouri. QB drew lock our Oakland and the dolphins. If lock we're on the board at Miami's turn the dolphins could wind up choosing between. Missouri quarterback or involving that pick in a trade for Josh Rosen. So if it gets there if the raiders pass on drew lock, and he gets to Miami that's going to be another. I guess crossroads for Josh Rosen at this point. Yeah. I would you rather have you've seen them both. I've seen him. Bide rather have Rosen. I would rather have Rosen his will. And I think he's got a good temperament that you can go down near he's gonna study heart. He's he's a he's a guy that wants to know the why you know, what I mean like he just doesn't not gonna walk in there. And you tell them what to do. Okay. Yeah. But tell me why you want me to do. So I can better understand why I'm gonna throw it here. Why should I do this? So I look forward to wherever he goes. He's going to have a even bigger chip drew lock is also a little short, and he's still going to have to get his Radic. His game is going to have to translate to the NFL as well because he's in spreads to it system. A lot of these guys are spreading you gotta come to the NFL. And and you're gonna you know have to get under center, you're gonna have to do some things a little bit different. He's got a rocket of an arm yet. If he's got a a rocket of an arm, but at the same guys have rocket arms, but can you harness? It can use, you know, the type of what's his touched like. Well, you have against New England twice a year. Right. And you know, you got the jets now I mean, the NFL game is going to be different than so Josh Rosen. I know that if you're. Oh, you're saying if drew lock you into Miami just said a rose Josh Rosen. I know I can he's he's going to go out there and play. He can make all the throws is what you're saying Rosen. And remember they still have quarterback in place, by the way in Ryan Fitzpatrick. So I mean, he's a stopgap. He's a stopgap guy. Josh Rosen can play tomorrow. Josh rosen. I listen, I want to get simulation. So it's a situation it's business. Drudge. But darn I wanted them to take Josh Rosen the draft last year and then Arizona jumped in front of right? So I mean, look that's the team. I grew up rooting for. But it's also the team that has broken my heart so much. I almost don't care to watch their games and haven't really for number of years because I just know they're going to be sorry and at best they're going to be five hundred. So like I but Josh Rosen would reinvigorate me to be a fan of that team. Again. You know, what I mean because it's like it's like a relationship, you know, like one of those toxic relationships you stick around, you know, little too long y'all just fight all the time. You know what I mean? But, you know, the sex is good, you know? So you stick around for the sex or you stick around for the kids, and I feel like that's what's happened with me and the dolphins. And so because of that I'd like to get into a new relationship with them because that would show me they've turned to. Leaf. And maybe I end up on the wrong end of it again. And maybe just go fall in with the Rams and just leave them if this doesn't work, but you know, but because the Rams are sexy. I'm looking at the Rams, and I, you know, I love me, Sean McVeigh. I appreciate you buttering me up your he knows I like to butter him up like the Rams, you know, they no longer just then. Now, the girl am I right? You know what I'm saying? Because the dolphins is like, you know, we've been in this relationship, a long time is not sexy anymore. She, you know, I'm not I'm not going to the gym as much for her. You know, she's not wearing the sexy underwear for me anymore. But the Rams the Rams I may be you know, what I'm gonna get on that treadmill? Again. I may get that beach body video perhaps even trying to resurrect some some old housewives. And like Blake Bortles they gave about that. Right. I know what I'm saying. So Josh Rosen makes me who I like because I loved Rosen here. I did too. You know, I I'm with you on Rosanna won't Rosen. The go to place said I'm buying. When it comes to Josh Rosen very much, so. Especially after you know, doing his games in high school over Saint John Bosco high school here, right? And watching him the way that his teammates gravitated to them. How much they loved them UCLA goes here, we knew he was gonna be there long three years. And look that team was just you know, it wasn't a good team. And so many people are doing what? Now, they put a situation in which all he didn't win enough games. Or he did he was not a true winner. Or he couldn't beat this team. That's the thing with a lot of the, you know analysis now is people will find something and they'll just run with George. I mean, they run with it. And I don't know of Josh Rosen really got a fair shot last year eighteen in Arizona that was just a bad football team. I mean worst offensive line in football. Right, right. If not if not thirty to thirty one I believe and they had no receivers a running back who was a shell of himself coming off injury and on Inonu offense. They fired the OC halfway through the season. Right. And then the poor head coach gets let go to because you know, it just didn't work out. So there was a zero zero support system there for him in Arizona. And now there's less of it and a new head coach, right? New offense coordinator, the it was just all bad. So last year they had a new head coach. What is the first time? Head coach Steve Wilks, right and Mike McCoy was the offensive coordinators Wilkes. Also, the name of the guy who used to be the bouncer the way for Jerry Springer. Yeah. Got his own show right on show. Yeah. I knew that name sounded familiar to me all these security for his own show. Right, right. He was the security guy Jerry Springer and they got his own show. Right. You gotta spin up. Steve wilks. My dad is me rest in peace when once he retired and he got sick, and he can watch you couldn't work anymore. Like, he he would just watch. He would watch prices, right? Well, let's make a deal. I with who's Wayne Brady Wayne Brady right host. Let's make a deal. And then Jim Carey house prices. Right. And then he watched Jerry. He'd watch Jerry everyday your boy St. works. So what do they find those people from Jerry? I mean, there's got to be that can't be like I mean, some of those people in the audience are real. But I would imagine a lot of these people are actors, right? Maybe if someone can tell us in the audience, they would know better. But that does seem to be the case with me. So coming up next. We'll we'll let you know what's happening with the cardinals. They're taking they're taking their time either on the clock. Now, the raiders are picking quickly on these are now how long are these pit seven minutes. Seven minutes the second round. And then I believe they go down to five. Okay. So this thing is going to happen quickly. So we're going to be firing at just so the raiders are coming up in a couple of picks. They are two picks away. The cardinals are on the clock right now. Officially so we'll have that for you on the other side. Plus a challenge has been made to LeBrun James will tell you in just a second stick around. So Donald show ESPN LA so data show here on ESPN LA Kirk Morrison hanging out as the second round of the draft. Is underway. And the Arizona Cardinals like Byron Murphy, cornerback Washington hometown, Scottsdale. Arizona he's he's legit. He he was a first round gray first round talent. He was the twenty eighteen Pac twelve championship game MVP. So yeah. Yeah. The people in in the Pac twelve they know him, they they know him. Well, but a great kid had a test to talk with them throughout the process. He was a little bit injury. He was banged up. And so he was full ready to go and the cardinals got a corner opposite Patrick Peterson. Maybe they've been searching for a while. And so they've got another opportunity for guy to come up and be that corner. That's going to get a lot of football thrown his way. Because no one's trying to throw over at number twenty one side. There's gonna be a couple of corners. My guests going here soon. Green Williams is probably my LSU. Right. You got is Eddie Johnson. You got a lot of guys. So it's it's it's it's a good day for skill position players. You didn't feel comfortable taking him in the first. But in the. The second third round. Yes. I can you'll see some trade going on as the raiders are becoming up in a couple of picks. I think it'd be interesting to see what the raiders do here. They are one pick away the culture on the board. They've got three and a half minutes to figure out what they're going to do. And then the raiders are coming up right after that. Where would you go? If you were the raiders before we get to challenge LeBron corner. So you take really Williams. Yeah. I'll try and if greed is there, I'll take greedy are. That'd be funny because I believe he's related. He's he has a religion with Kishan. Yeah. And of course, we all know how Keyshawn and Gruden raiders. It'd been to a teammate over there an Arden key as well. Right. You've got that relationship. But I I just love you know, corners on a day like today. When specially you've got guys who were graded for in the first round, but only thirty two picks. Yeah. So we'll see we'll keep you posted on what the pig is in apparently for the colts. We'll let you know what that isn't in the raiders are immediately on the clock there. Like, if you're the colts, you just gotta go and and find some weapons for Andrew luck to the early part of the second round tins to move fast, George because the players or teams who are picking they've been on it, man. They know they are you know, who they're gonna get. Yeah. We we already in all of a sudden bright when you get about ten picks in it starts to slow down. Right. Right. Where we wait. So our guys not here. Hookah we tray with because look the Rams have already traded back. They were at thirty one yesterday. They trade it back. You know, what the falcons they ended up getting a bunch of third round a second round pick in a third round pick frustrating out of number one yesterday. So the Rams are gonna be active in about a about ten picks. And the Rams are going to give us their their guys as they pick them. They're going to join us here on the show. So stick around and the chargers are going to get Tillery for us kid out of Notre Dame the defensive tackle, which by the way. Before I get to who challenged the LeBron. I like that because they have great edge rushers. Right. The chargers, but they their little soft in the middle and New England particularly exposed that during the playoff. Yeah. Brandon me bang was a guy who they had here. Deigned squares will corley Jit free agent. They let go as well. So they they've needed some works. And they needed some help up front in that middle to solidify that defense because they mentioned New England random ball on them. The linebackers are going to need help having someone trying to help them stuff the run. So it'll be interesting to see. Yeah. For sure I so Reggie Wayne is making the pick for the colts. We'll we'll hit let you hear who challenged the Brian here in a second. But we wanna see who the heck the colts take regio hall of Famer, right? Yeah. Yeah. He'll he'll eventually get there. Yeah. It's just it's a law at the wide receiver present, it really is just crazy. That's too hard. Yeah. Yeah. Steve be eligible in a little bit too. So she got to worry about that guy who these middle of he's all fame. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's where I think he's like the lab. Of the guys who is going to have these inflated numbers, right or the b before before the inflated numbers or the inflation. Right. But then you got Calvin Johnson out there is he a hall of fame. So the out the logjam at why receiver as they take another corner to corners back rock. Yes. Sin cornerback temple rock. Yes. In loved him. That's a great name. Yeah. Right. Name for db two. Yeah. Yeah. Even better. If you understand his story, though, man, the tell me the story so he was on a recruiting trip. He's from Georgia. Yeah. Recruiting trip, and so they wanted to meet for dinner and with the recruiting coach. And so rock was like, you know, he's like, you know, you pick a spot. Rocky lavar coup had his little recruiting trip with his coach at McDonald's straight. Hey, this is what I this. All I know, you know, me out. So they had a meeting at McDonald's, and okay, he came over to temple breast is history. Dude as good. So the raiders around the clock will let you know what's up with the raiders in just a second there on the clock as we speak. So LeBron James remember after Dave mcmenamin said what he said the other day went on Instagram, and you know, he had reasons to as I say say it wasn't true. Like he wants people to come play here. The last thing the last of the raiders have traded their Jaguar aided their pick. So that's more picks for more picks for cars like woo. Yeah. Exactly there are is like, yeah. Because now it doesn't look like it's gonna be drew lock, right? And. Because you know, what if I'm Jacksonville? Maybe I'd take drew lock yet. Nick, foles and tow for a couple years. You can develop drew lock. Yeah. That makes sense. So they mcmenamin said that he believed that LeBron the Lakers needed to do some reparation to the relationship some repairs. So LeBron went Instagram and said this. Shows. Now. True. So he said that's not true. First of all a recipe snips, he can shot the Dipsy hustle in the background. So he was saying that he was watching. I take they had the lower third word said Dade mcmenamin said, blah, blah, blah. So either leave as I've told you that I think that is look he's got to say that the last thing he needs for free ages to think oh lebrons. Got one foot out the door. Like, I don't need that. You know, what I mean like, so he's got to do that. It's just smart business to say that and and again, it's also smart business for him because let's face it. Whether he likes it or not he can't ask for a trade. I don't believe because he's under contr where you're going to reflect poorly upon correct? So anyway, so after that happened the next day on I take our pal Stephen a Smith. This about LeBron James Baltin enough to be all social media want. You come on. I take bro. Be. We don't put come on. Let's be clear. We know. That's not gonna happen. We know that's not gonna happen. Because you don't get to speak on social media on the digital world for sixty seconds. Go hot in the wake, bro. I got a whole but to question. Got a whole quick to. None of them involve day mcmenamin. None of them involve, you know, the relationship with the Lakers, and if you're salty 'cause personally speaking, I think LeBron James has a right to beat salting because I don't know if he's there for what what he's there with existing with now is what he signed up for. And I don't happen to believe that's his fault. But I got a whole bunch of questions. Come on, bro. City book, you know, television. First of all, I think they should do bluff. I haven't told the producer. I take a guy named Antoine. Louis that'll talk, and I've I've known it Antoine, Louis alone. And I tell him you should do that show every day in front of a crowd because we were just about Jerry Springer. It sounds like that you know, what I'm saying. Like, it brings a different energy all my God, the energy is tremendous on this energy. So Stephen a plane up to the crowd a little bit. Now, LeBron was asked by Chuck Chuck by Charles Barkley to come on inside the NBA on TNT, and he's been begging LeBron for awhile, and then LeBron's they will maybe maybe I'll make a trip LeBron has not responded this even though because he knows that I take is hostile territory. Okay. Look chugging them. Dudes L ask him a few tough questions. But they want to joke around and have fun and laugh it up. Right. Stephen as going to he's going to grill. Lebron james. That's as good as it sounds. For him to be on there. And what great Deiter TV I think he should do it. I think he should too. But you remember the shop is going to be episode with threes. Coming up episode four the shop coming up. Yeah. So you know, he's got to do it after that. Right. Or he could do it before to promote the shop you show you should go out and walk to his crew and say look plus promote the shop by going on. I taking you get five minutes, then that's it. Yeah. Let visit rich math. Randy lucas. All y'all clutch. Okay. I know y'all live here. Now, y'all listen to the show. Okay. Get Braun on. I take. I I take we'll come out here to LA live will do the show at LA live. How we should do that damn thing outside here in LA LA. Okay. And get Brun here too. I take I listen, you tell me that Brahma going first day, I will figure out the rest. I will. I will. I will personally if I gotta drive the truck to get them out here. I will drive the truck get my mom's famous pound cake. They hatred will do we can do. I mean, could you imagine that would be that would be look as good as I thought inside the NBA would be a good. It'd be funny. Correct. This would be tremendous television for a different reason if LeBron wants to steal headlines, which I know that you know, we kinda likes to do here near think about this though, George and l-, and look it's not like Stephen aide doesn't respect him. Clearly, all you heard that at the end. But if LeBron James wanted to hijack the NBA finals with the day onsite because obviously, you know, the, right? I take will be on site where the NBA finals are LeBron comes in for NBA finals one day. Right. I mean, we blow up we will. Talk more about the LeBron appears that whatever's out finals by for a million times, especially if what the lottery has already happened. Right. So you don't you can still build it up because the NBA lotteries won't be coming up. We know where the Lakers will be picking it. Right. When over a lot of teams will be picking it. We'll know where hey possibly Zion. We'll be going number one. If the Knicks get the first pick. So now, you got a lot of questions. And now, you know, hey, what guy? Do you wanna play with guy? Are you not comfortable with playing with? It's a bunch. Yeah. I I'd be all in on watching Brown on first take with was Stephen, Amen. Like ferrall that that to me would be tremendous. Hey, don't forget we've got a couple of things we're doing today, particularly though we got one last chance for you to win. Tickets apparent tickets to see team USA take on team Spain. August sixteenth at the Honda center. Anaheim you can see K D And James harden and demar to Rosen and Paul George guys take on team. Spain is great basketball the two best teams in the world, certainly going after it. So it'd be fantastic stuff. Coming up next. Oh, I want to dive into the clippers the clippers are making one last stand. Are you buying the clippers tonight last Kirk Morrison warriors aficionado if he's a little worried about them clippers tonight? We'll get to that next.

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Hour 1: The Cardinals Dominate The Cowboys

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Hour 1: The Cardinals Dominate The Cowboys

"Lording, it is done to get up with eight Monday night beatdown which left only one obvious question out then cowboys. One if I land the cheese, chew up the clock and drew up the bills. Now they had another weapon to the ground game. How does anyone stop list plus is it time to panic in new? England? You'll hear at least one voice who says, yes, it is all that and more as we get up with you starting right now the seaport Greenie Grazziano was here with me today on this jam packed Tuesday and the squad is ready to go. Let me show you but we got ready to talk football with us today swagger. He can't even we couldn't find paper BAG TO PUT A. He's got. Glasses ORCA. Greg mcelroy. Oh it's to be that kind of morning. Let's show you why game with the night certainly, not for Dallas it wasn't hosting the cardinals on Monday night football entering the game the cowboys at allowed sixty points off turnovers. We call that or shadowing first-quarter no score Andy Dalton under pressure find Zeke and Z.. He's got some problems before he's able to secure it the ball is. Pop, loose Buddha Baker Away Jordan Phillips falls on for Arizona, take another look Zeke not controlling the football it's dislodged and gives the good field position and they take advantage boy down on the ensuing possession. Why give it up when Tyler Murray can just do this look at the speed of the edge eleven yards the drive stays a lot were early second quarter two plays later. And it felt teams long the flip but little flip to Christian Kirk and speaking of speed of the edge cardinals take a seven nothing lead capitalizing off the Elliott turnover but we're not done the ensuing possession second play of the drive. Elliott. Again, all you gotta be kidding up the middle loses it again, Zeke Elliott ranch will taunt. Forty nine yards and lost two fumbles in last night's game. This one is covered by Byron Murphy. It's his fourth lost fumble of the season only lost five in the first four years of his career, and so in possession first and ten from the seventeen if Murray taking himself again, look at the speed of the Bulls these down to the one. Kenyan drake take it on the next. Play it's fourteen nothing Arizona and a five minutes left in the half. Now, cardinals the ball at their own twenty cuyler Murray, just nine of twenty four in the game. But this one is backed tacklers Christian Kirk behind the defense eighty yards for the touchdown kirk second of the night cardinals a twenty one nothing lead closing seconds of the hand cowboys looking to strike back in the red, zone? Can't miss these opportunities. It's in the hands of Michael Gallup and threw it goes and the cowboys settled for a field goal twenty, one, three at the half. Dallas gets the ball in the third quarter still down twenty one, three Andy. Dalton back to throw. And here's an is easy completion. The trouble is completed to drink patrick who plays for the other team take another look how is it that Kirkpatrick up being the only person in the area E. blatantly knocks down CD lamb no-call no flag cowboys turnover of the day, and as you would imagine, the cardinals take advantage first and goal from the one. It's Murray again. And the blowout is an route twenty, eight, three at the time thirty, eight ten is the final score it was. Kind of night for the Dallas Cowboys and the Jones family they fall the two and four and this one was ugly. I didn't go very well I have A. Continuing. issue. With with ball security on my football team something, I'd personally take a lot of pride in. In in in how it reflects how you play the game of football and I'm not getting that down right now I'm just gonNa keep saying over and over I mean I started the game two fumbles gave the ball away and that gave them all the momentum that they needed to go and. Take off So I mean I, I want to say I'm sorry. This one's on me and I need to be better for his team. Play take the responsibility but the reality is turnovers are the biggest issue for the cowboys through six games. They've allowed eighty four points off turnovers in have as you see there minus seventy four point margin that's tied for the worst six games over the last forty years. So let's put the group together. I've been waiting all morning long to ask Marcus spears with or without the shades how you feeling this morning big fellow. Feeling. Man. Underneath these shades are. Swollen is I. Just I was on that field last night taking the punches to the face exactly what the cowboys. It was it was a devastating night. I got on Instagram last night and say, just turn it off. Make It stop. We should have a running clock in the NFL Games like this. Because my son Little League. Basketball and baseball they have. You know they got in baseball. You can you got will run rule in his age group in basketball running clock if you go about thirty and that's exactly how it felt less. And to be honest with the jeep. When you look ahead when you look at the game totality man. What came to mind was how much? That made up for the deficiencies on this team. That's all I could think about. Include internal because he turned the ball over and Zeke AF, on boost when he was playing as well. But all of this was being hidden. Zag Martin was lost last night to possible concussion and now you playing with. Offensive, line that's some some spots, two D and three D at the center spot. The this is. A Disaster Andy Dalton we thought was right ship and I picked the cowboys to win the game because I thought. They will be able to run the football and obviously they're ninety million dollar man who just best up the cost his team and I don't know if that would have won the game if he wouldn't have those two fumbles but it was. Absolute but whipping, and every time today I talked about the cowboys put knee Said's on because I ask you won't. Well, you have to look forward to I'm bringing Stephen A. Into battle with you a little bit later this morning. So be geared up for that because you know he's ready for you. Meanwhile, Greg Mcelroy I. Know You put together some tape because? This was a night where literally everything went wrong but you have pinpointed the area where it was the single biggest problem for the cowboys. And Greenie. Masking all these deficiencies but the reality was the communication between the quarterback position and the office of line last night was in many ways atrocious. Here's a simple fresher five defenders in the box five guys blocking you have your running back who's at one on one with the will linebacker. This center has to see the fact that there's presence on the right he's trying to push his right guard out. Buddha Baker just runs through Scott Free Eddie don't thinks he's protected. He gets absolutely smoke doesn't matter back on the field for that to sack got. Four guys left to the center here on zone to the left, you have three blocker. You cannot run this play into a four man side that is day one install and Jeff Saturday who was maybe the smartest player to ever play the center position the looks that they constantly got. We're relatively simple to defend if you are the offensive line for the Dallas cowboys however the communication between Andy Dalton and Gregg just froze but I think the whole world was stunned by calling campus Martius Defensive Lineman he'd ever heard. But yeah pick up the there one way or the other because he got most of the point at which was the offensive line was the problem last night. Jeff Saturday what did you see? It was a travesty and Making R could not be. More truthful like a few look at is such a simplistic defense that was being played against them and it really is just counting I mean when you talk about that the. Getting home in running too weak side with four guys over there I'm it's literally basic counting right count before they got one more than us to kind of go the other way that guy's GonNa come and bring pressure. He's gotTa throw it to the tight end or they got a slot to pick up that protection. But what would we? We made this statement last week when that got her. Everybody said Oh Kennedy don't do this. It's not about eighty don't right. It's about this offensive line and they can't get it done a subway turnstile man at the first two passes. They had guys interface, and by the way Chandler Jones wasn't in the house. So this was a just A. Guy This is just guys who were running by getting pressure on your quarterback. There's no communication. You're not seeing any point. You're not seeing any talk between the offensive line and the running backs tight ends. This thing is ugly and here's the problem. You can't get this thing solved by Haning to Zeke. Because he's dropping at the first time he touches it it's an absolute embarrassment. When you look at the way, my Middle School football team is coach better than that and can execute better that because it's simple there is nothing complicated about the weapon they took last night. I go ahead. So I go when he got. G Did I make the point that that mask a lot of this stuff in greeted. Yes. Do you believe he did because that was going to be my next question to you? Do you believe that Dak Prescott agent was watching that game last night with a cigar in his mouth and champagne on the table if saying look what this offense looks like without my client Marcus? Yes or no? G. Yes. What every man on this show what the Hell y'all think and looking at that team last night. Hey I got something for you to it. I liked this offensive land just got bad last night they been bad. That's right. Guess who've been masking it by aboard Russia's in the Bordon Sex and the board and pressure his ankle was was. Brought fractured because he was aboard and pressure and getting outside of the pocket because this offense bland they block nobody what ended Dalton went through is what that Prescott been going through the first few games of the season eight chains different Zietman fumbling the ball in even overcoming his own mistakes in. Since every game before these the cowboys to win, we knew there will they had no doubt the win this last night. Let me ask grassy question because can honestly say, I've been a sportscaster for thirty years. I've never had this kind of conversation about a team that was alone in first place in its division but that is the reality of the terrible. NFC. East so. They're not going to look at this thing is though it's hopeless there in I. Is there any potential for move to be made as we approached the trade deadline anything that we're hearing anything that we should expect you know they'll try but it's tough because how do they pinpoint what area and then he tackles they need playmakers on defense. They need all kinds of things I mean look it's a total meltdown there and I don't think talking to people there that they have really any idea how to target a potential solution like that I mean the problems are so bad eighty. Four points off turnovers, the steelers only allowed ninety four points period crawl year I mean this is these are huge huge numbers there on pace to give up more points than any team has I don't know how they fix us with a trade or to. We'll see again the eagles play the giants on Thursday night Washington and Dallas. That's one of them has to win the division. That's what the rule is. The rule we'll get back to that as we continue meanwhile, we had to for the. Last night Monday night doubleheader fails hosting the chiefs both foreign one both coming off losses. First quarter chiefs down threes get used to hearing me say Clyde Allaire the football look at the moves thirty one yards for the rookie out of Lsu that's career long run. He had a lot of great moments last night now, I, intended the eleven if Patrick Mahomes, it's. Travis Kelsey into the touchdown achieves take a seven three lead. Now early in this game, it was going back and forth second quarter. It's still seven three bills first go from the four Josh Allen, his favorite targeted step on digs, and here's why look at the body control I'll show you again look at digs somehow managing to keep the feet inbounds ten seven. Buffalo. Chief get the ball back. Now they're moving first in ten. It's Edwards Allaire. He would run for a hundred and sixty one yards on the night fourteen of them. They're look at the moves and then lowers the shoulder as Ryan Clark says he's not swales your short later in the drive third down mahomes again. Kelsey again he's throwing twenty four touchdowns to Kelsey twenty eighteen of any duo in that span the kick was no good. So it's thirteen ten Kansas City third quarter still thirteen ten third down at the Buffalo Seventeenth. Here's the play everyone was talking about homes running forward. Now he's running backwards that was running forwards again. Almost picks up the first down Andy Reid wants them to check. He wants them to measure it. They won't do it. He's mad. Doesn't really matter because they go on fourth down in this happens. Darrow Williams touchdown chiefs I game with two hundred yards rushing since twenty sixteen they ran the ball forty six times last night most ever under Andy Reid fourth quarter chiefs up twenty three tenths bills not give it up Josh Allen Cold previously to one possession games twenty three seventeen cheese need to run some clock today ran the football, and then they get to a third and twelve and mahomes able to do this look how smooth and easy. He makes this life lock. Somehow, finding Byron Pringle wide open a thirty seven yard gain to the thirty kick appeals also to to possession games at twenty, six, seventeen last-gasp for the bills Josh Allen who for just one hundred and twenty two yards last night easily his fee was to the season chiefs win. We saw that how deep their their linebackers and safeties in corners were playing We knew that we had the we had the run game so we really stayed with it. And and your teams are GonNa. Play like this. You'RE GONNA, see us running the football and we had the guys that can do. They most certainly did last night they ran it and ran it some more again. Edwards Allaire one, sixty, one last night tied for the third most by chiefs rookie in franchise history most by any team mate Patrick Mahomes in the NFL and so only one place I can start this conversation look at the smile on the face of Jeff Saturday there's nothing. Linemen luxury apartment to see that and in particular when he was saying when Mahomes were saying they were that that how far off the defense was playing? Tell us what you saw there. Yet, they're lining up seven yards flat-footed from the line of scrimmage all their lags they're almost at cornerback level when they're approaching the line of scrimmage and as you're watching what what Mahomes, this saying, there's no other option other than to run. Because by the way you're not gonNA get touched for the first four yard. All you gotTa do now is run and we are. Just turning this thing out this requirement for the chiefs success greening. When you look at the way they play like they WANNA be sprinters right? That's in their nature that's in their. DNA. Just what teams are going to make them go run the mile, which is frustrating. I love that Pat Mahomes is up the homes that they're talking about hey, we'll run. We'll win how. He don't want to win that way Andy. Reid don't want to win that way nobody on the chiefs except the offensive line and the running backs WanNa win that way and I absolutely love it. I had tears in my eyes watching that. Tape. That is taking them and putting a beatdown imposing your will. That's how you be the chargers, the Patriots and continuing to draw eight rusty go ham they finally did it and here's the scariest part. Levy. On bells come into the party. So we saw why delay was so hyped up, they're bringing in another dude he wants to show. He still wants to get some action. I, absolutely. Loved it. You saw you saw Andy Reid sold mad go and everything he don't get mad usually he's mad because he Kate though it all over the yard but I loved the cheese answered answered the question last night are they faced the win games like this and they did yeah, I mean the great teams can beat you. However it is you WanNa make them play and that's what we saw last night. So Marcus now they had that and as Jeff says, they add levy on bell you're playing defense against Kansas City. What's your mindset going in because last night they show down your throat if you force them to. Choose the way you want to get killed gee, that's it. I mean you you. You are hoping that our offense can put the output needed to force them into some particular situations like the Oakland Raiders Way to do by hitting knows deep balls and bake it huge plays because then they have to try to match that. So offense being a defense is one of the. Ways you defend against the Kansas City chiefs. The second thing is you have to make up your mind. Look I know people talk about you gotta mix up coverages and do all it is the good defense is that I've been around and you can't do it to the cheese but this is what you have to do. Sometimes you have to play man and say look we. Don't bring more than you can block wink Martindale lined up and tried to do it with Baltimore and they didn't work. He adds humphries and Peters, and you go argue that that's two of the better corners but but mixing it up playing to hide safety shell, you're get ran on you bring one safety down you're gonNA get tossed over the dome so it really doesn't. Matter. You have to hope that our offense is better than the chiefs offense that day, and that's the only way you get out of there with a w on the flip side of this Greg mcelroy Josh. Allen. He threw for one hundred and twenty two yards last night the previous low for him. This season have been to sixty three. What did you see on the tate? The jury's out right now. Greeny and we need to see Josh Allen respond to pressure when there's blitz packages. He doesn't really do a great job of identifying before the snap and then having answers and here's an example overload pressure. It's cover zero. You got to see it as a quarterback, this plain and simple. You know you don't have enough guys blocking schemes to block them. So what does he do? He panics he doesn't recognize it before the snap he drifts right and he's got guy wide open this was on third down a critical. Third Down to start the game, he overshoots intended wide receiver. If he just makes a completion, not only do they get the first down, they might end up scoring on that play by itself. So he's got to do a better job was three of thirteen against blitz packages and the jury is currently out. Everyone knows that he's got now adjust his game plan to be able to account for those pressures that they're going to throw out the moving forward. Now, look it's been a good start to the season for him, but certainly some things. He can still work on their guys stay with me here much more from all of you as we go. But let me get Grazziano here and run the hurry up through some news and notes the eagles have injuries as they play Thursday. WHAT'S THE LATEST TAX? Their tight end has an ankle sprain. He's going to miss multiple weeks with that. So obviously, not playing this. Thursday night and starting back Mile Sanders dealing with a knee injury that he seems likely to keep him out of at least this week's game possibly more lane Johnson there. Right tackle might have to miss the game with injury. I could go on and on. It's the eagles. Injuries are the story of their season story the titans season's been scoring points racking up yours as six hundred plus yards on Sunday bad injury though left tackle Taylor Lewan for his ACL will miss the rest of the season. That's the kind of injury that could force an offense to play differently could affect its ability to score points moving forward their ability to effectively replace him could tell a big part of the story of their season. Story the season honestly I misspoke with the titans has been the covert thing. Right they didn't play for a couple of weeks. So the League and the Union have been investigating what went wrong there what caused an outbreak twenty people testing positive the titans will not face significant disciplined sources hold our Adam Schefter last night from what I understand. The investigation found out that everything that went on was basically negligence ninety, any kind of willful flouting of the of the rules, the covert rule. So what they're going to do is probably find the organization I. Don't think they're gonNA find individuals. They found some you know shaky mask wearing they wanna make sure do better with that. But ideally things will be better going and fence no draft picks nothing like that. Just comparatively minor finds there. So we'll see on we go just getting started very busy Tuesday football wall to wall coming up bill check hasn't been below five hundred, five games into a season in twenty years is the time to panic in Foxborough. We'll talk about it and speaking panics bakers not exactly cooking for Cleveland are analysts are fired up how big is the browns issue at quarterback ten and fixed? We're talking about it here. On ESPN. We're going to have Stephen live in an hour on this program and occasionally wondering how he's feeling. There's a little indication Raghu. You're going one on one with Stephen a an hour from now whether you want to or not even a celebrating the demise of how about them cowboys live with house in and hour meanwhile more for Marcus. We continue of all be contenders in the NFC which one does swaggie trust. The most answer might surprise you is on the way speaking of answers. Let's. Get this from sneaky Hembo, which is the only NFL team to lose multiple games by twenty eight points. This season at the question cancers next. Get on ESPN. We're back on get up and I must say Grazziano sounds very sure of himself. I got how he does which is the only NFL team to lose multiple games by at least twenty points. This guy it's a trick question because you supposed to say like the jets or some horrible terrible. T non-competitive every week right? It's not it's a team that's only lost two games and sandwiched a four game winning streak in between it is York Cleveland Brad it right to the dismay Hembo that is correct. They lost to the steelers by thirty one they lost to the Ravens Bhai Thirty, two, Graziano is. Back and better than ever win needed a win after is something of a losing streak speaking of Twenty eight point losses. Why weren't we cowboys cardinals? How about the performance last night of Kyle Murray? He got a little help. If you will early second quarter cowboys trailing seven nothing and Zeke Elliott is going to lose the football. His second fumble of the day is fourth loss fumble of the season. He only had five loss fumbles first four years of his career. The first one point the second one would lead to points well, cardinals ensuing possession first and ten from the seventeen look cuyler Murray's. Why give it to anyone else when you can just do this sets up a first and goal Kenyan drake would take it in from the one that's fourteen nothing. But under five minutes left in the half cards, the ball at their own twenty yard line Color Murray only completed nine passes in the ball game but here's the really memorable one. Look at this diamond eighty yard touchdown to Christian Kirk. So nine completions for one hundred, eighty, eight yards for calorie. The also ran for seventy four and the cardinals role new eight, thirty, eight to ten, win over the cowboys. Good. Kohl's now is brought to you by subway. Let me just bring Greg and Marcus into the conversation here because we spent a lot of this morning and we'll continue to talking about the cowboys side of this but the good calls, what are you seeing right now Greg mcelroy from Colin Murray. Well Greenie. He's gotten to the point where he's almost like Lamar Jackson with his legs I. Mean. He's almost maybe not quite as dynamic in explosive because they're just not formulating their offense to really highlight his legs as much as the Ravens are for. Lamar. But he's getting close I mean he is almost untouchable with the ball in his hands and the way he can create on yard situations keeping it on a Qb boot up the backside making things within the pocket when things start to break down now, what I saw last night though in the first quarter quarter and a half was that he was pressing he was back in his home city he was trying to make every throw. And he was relatively inaccurate for a vast majority of the night. If you take adjusted completion percentage, he was one of only two starting quarterbacks. This past week that was under fifty percent the other was drew lock. So he can improve dramatically from where was last night but as far as being instinctive and create a football player, he's among the best in the League right now. Now it's interesting because we just watch the game in which one team beat the other thirty eight to ten, and the team on the losing side actually has the easier path to the playoffs based on their division. Then the winners did last night, Marcus, do you believe the cardinals or a playoff team this year? No I don't and unfortunately. You know they have a tremendous amount of talent, but you look at their division and the things that they have to get through and what we've seen them do in the game that they play the same team lost to Carolina and didn't play well and Kala had the US dynamic legs. Last night I wanNA know can this team run the football? Because at some point you're going to have to go on the Brown I'm not judging whether they can run the football on Dallas on the Dallas cowboys defense. Last night at some point Colin Murray, we'll have to hand the. Ball off and they all have the in games and it was brought up a lot last night by Monday night crew about being able to close these games and cliff Kingsbury being able to play that way and I think that's the part that a whole this team back right. We will see again Arizona with a win their foreign to the cowboys for the two and four. They're still in first place and we will have Stephen a Smith live on. Okay. I'm Dan and our wondering how he was reacting last night that was his initial reaction Stephen and Swagger live together one. In about half out damn cowboys meanwhile, Dan Glaviano back to you overreaction. Tuesday. We'll throw some at who you tell me overreaction the packers aren't as good as their record overreaction or not. That's an overreaction. Greenie look Sunday, was a weird game. Aaron Rodgers threw two interceptions and a game for the first time in nearly three years. It doesn't happen. Obviously the packers didn't know how to handle that they're eighteen five over the last two seasons. They will be just fine next up in that same division, the Chicago bears their defense will carry them to the playoffs overreaction. Or not what's not an overreaction already bank five wins so they're they're kinda halfway there already, you know how I feel about the quarterback situation there in Chicago. I don't think it's going to get any better with the offense anytime soon but the defense is playing at a high level in a year where maybe two or three teams in a whole league are going any defense at all. It can definitely set them apart and get them in the playoffs and then one more the patriots under. Five hundred for the first time in forever. So the patch will miss the playoffs overreaction or no. I'm going to die on this hill. I'm going to say this is an overreaction. I think the Patriots can get it together what I saw there at that game. Sunday was terrible but when I saw was a team that looked like it hadn't practised, which is what they are I mean the last couple of weeks their practice schedule's been completely disrupted by the covid nineteen stuff and definitely. I think Bill Belichick and Cam Newton together and get them in the playoffs somehow although I don't really see exactly how well I mean you never look at the end of the day Cam Newton was the one some things are excuses and things are reasons Newton was one who was out for the majority of that. So to call rusty and all that kind of stuff I guess would be reasonable but as they fall the two and three here was came when asked about his level of concern. There's no need to press the panic button. There's no need to you know start. Reinventing the wheel, we have the answers, and I said again, we have the answers in that locker room. So. Let's talk about the AFC east for a moment because there were three teams in it that have a chance to win, and then there are the jets. But if you take a look at it, the dolphins FBI gives the Patriots of twenty-five percent chance to win the division bills or faraway the favorites. Again, the dolphins are sitting there at three and three implying reasonably well. So it does beg more interesting question than it has been in a really long time who was going to win that division. So let me go around the Horn on that Jeff Saturday, which team do you trust in the long run in the AFC East? The New England patriots, and this is without a shadow of doubt listened that. No they played bad last week and it was ugly and the week before Cam sitting now because a covert and the whole situation they will continue to progress and get better as the season goes on and again you talk about Josh mcdaniels with Cam Newton without practicing without preseason without. All without him even being in. Until late you're talking about this bill, the Patriots, they will find a way to best coach team in the division they'll continue to get better they'll end up winning the. All right. So what do you think we got in the AFC East right now? It's the past and there's just like what Jeff? Saturday just said did we forget who the head coach was for the New England Patriots? Do we expect them to perform this bad as they did against the Broncos born going forward no we talked about not having opportunity to practice is well and I know people are compared in. And rightfully. So but I give all validity. So what the ability has done in his career, let alone what he's done in this division. I see we got to for two so far on them Greg mcelroy who you like. Then y'all are y'all are on the Pats van. Bandwagon you just mentioned it spears at Tennessee didn't practice how they last couple weeks. I'm taking the buffalo bills and because they have a balanced offensive attack and I know last night was not the best example of how Josh Allen has grown and improved over the course of the season. But right now, I had to have Cam Newton or Josh Allen Playing quarterback I'm. Taking Josh Allen even though he has a lot of broken the development still to do what I saw from Cam Newton on Sunday was atrociously bad I mean really bad bad footwork lazy didn't look quite as fast as he did in the first couple of weeks of the season. So I'm still leaning in favor of the buffalo bills with how they're balanced on offense and I think that defense is still very capable. Or in two, they sit on top of the division Dan Grazziano who you like in the AFC. We're going to those guys probably ripe and let me make the case for the Miami Dolphins. I. Know Sounds Ridiculous. We're sitting here a year ago. Telling me they were trying to lose gains on purpose they are three three. Spent the most money of any team this off season, they had five of the top sixty draft picks. They finished the season strong last came up with one of the biggest wins in the whole league last year at the end when they knocked the Patriots out of that by changed everything for the Patriots and the chiefs. They're a game behind Buffalo. The last couple of weeks they've played much better than anybody else in the division. Yeah. Crushed the jets this week but they crushed the forty niners the week before. I'm just saying it's not crazy. They also have good losses the rain right? They played Seattle tough loss they played bothell often. Jet Jettisoned Greenie. Whatever whatever Dan whatever Dan has in his coffee up in New York I need some down in Georgia because he has lost his. Head they already lost. The dolphins already lost a buffalo and New England play the Gordy played two of the two of the three teams in their division. They've already lost to I played better I like all of live moving up but the jump on that but man, I'm not sure where you're and listen I appreciate the argument I appreciated I've just west of what's going on up in up in New York right now with. Listen, I'll say is this boy or all of you feel silly when the red hot and make a run and wind up winning. Rallying around their embattled head coach Adam. Coming up. In Sunday's blowout loss to Pittsburgh, is it time to consider permanently benching Baker and the conversation continued get up on ESPN. We are back on get up and a whole bunch of teams around the NFL seemed to be watching that guy closely Clinton quarterback trevor. Lawrence submitting his case is a no brainer one pick in the draft Saturday he threw for four hundred four yards and five touchdowns in the first half against Georgia tech, and so that'll be a first on the clock as they bring Greg mcelroy into the conversations. Greg you were telling us before the show that this this season so far. Has Taken his game to even another level. What is it? You mean by that? What are you seeing go? Well the one thing that you could always push back against Trevor Lawrence that he was surrounded by an all star cast of characters at wide receiver. Well, that's no longer the case his best receiver t higgins from last year is in the NFL he'd also lost Justin Ross before the season to an injury so he's rely on guys that maybe aren't top billing is only elevators play even higher and has left absolutely no doubt that he is the best quarterback prospect cents Andrew Luck and I think his way he's brought the rest of the team up around him and his productivity and NFL level. Accuracy has been on full display. He's been truly amazing in the first few games this season, and you only expect because and always does they get better as the season goes along so that he gets better from where he's at right now look out college football World Trevor Lawrence is going to take home the Heisman, and of course, very well become next April. No question that he's been terrible for parody in the NFL feels like almost half the teams are tanking for him next up is Jeff Saturday jet to this point in the season? Who's your coach of the year forty five seconds goat. It Ain't Mike Gravel your. High. This guy has absolutely. Listen, let's pay way must take away the. Distraction right I, mean he had fourteen days no practice, and we're GonNa practice what's going on or we being investigated? Are we not continue to push through? He has taken tannahill and made him an MVP candidate. He's Got Derrick Henry MVP candidate he calls I mean he lets them have twelve on the field to and sell forty seconds last Sunday to give himself some time to win the game against the Texans he is doing everything right? We talked about chess versus check. I. D is Playing Chess. So impressed and this team has taken on his identity. They are tough hard nosed folks that make no. And go find ways to win gotTa be Mike Break I love it. So again, if you do not vote for Mike rebel Jeff, Saturday, what are you? You. Even better with the delight. Okay Swu here. Of all of the NFC contenders and there's a bunch of teams bunched up there at the top which one do you trust the most right now? Forty five seconds go. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and let me tell you something that horse did not get out of the gates fast because they had a lot of things they need to work on they needed to teach them how to do to turn. They need to make sure to speed and the and the everything was good coming around the clock you look at Tom Brady he was. Trying to jockey this thing and figuring out who has other guys wasn't. Now you see is starting to come together. They are the more most complete teams in the NFC when you talk about both sides of the ball, they finally got drunk involved in this play calling you see my given Chris we've got back healthy and he was doing it without all of those guys. Our Cambra step enough. But the other side of the ball, the only they're only a few. Defense and damn series the Tampa Bay buccaneers in conversation that one I agree with complete. Yes. Those are the ones on the good side of the ledger. Let's talk about someone for whom Sunday was definitely a day to forget. Baker Mayfield and the browns Mayfield completed ten of eighteen for one nineteen true interceptions in thirty, eight, seven loss to the steelers in which he was ultimately benched. The browns are foreign to Baker is on six interceptions on the season and there's been a lot of conversation about him and Greg mcelroy I want to start with you. I know you put together some tape on what we're seeing from. Baker. Mayfield right now. Yeah Greenie if the browns are going to get where they wanna go, they have got to stop making catastrophic mistakes at the quarterback position. Let's go back to the game on Sunday first interception. There's quarterback too high safety look piece. Effect, rotate into the passing strength Baker Mayfield never sees it. What is making do jumps right in front the GonNa go outside Odell Beckham instead it's a pick six, the direction, your cornerback men's here three. You've got to recognize this your Baker Mayfield, and then this was a great job. Hey avoid the pressure off the right hand side file electric time, and then this is like throwing fadeaway three point shot from midcourt in the corner into an absolutely chaotic situation there on the sideline there is no justifiable reason to attempt that throw I. Don't know what his plan was on that particular play and he does this time and time again to three maybe four. Times a game where he does something that's just completely unnecessary. Sometimes, it gets away with it. Most of the time he doesn't he cannot continue to give the ball away and throw it into really difficult windows because it's GonNa, cost his team ultimately as they try to pursue a playoff berth marcus, we've talked so much about him and through that four game winning streak, we kept raving about how the coaching staff I'm use an over overstating it but the Coaching Staff Sorta coaching around his deficiencies. At this point, how would you evaluate Baker Mayfield's ability to become a great quarterback? He was the first pick in the draft what are you seeing from him Marcus Spears? G You and I have had conversations on your show. We've talked about this at the Super Bowl. We had this conversation and we actually talked to Baker about it and it's maturation process and all of these. Guys like. This is our trust circle right like. Bras and Jeff Saturday, Greg mcelroy, and this aisle circle right. Mayfield is the average to below average quarterback. And I don't WANNA sound malicious because people they got got a vendetta against Baker Mayfield I. Don't I'm just trust what my eyes have shown me for an extended period of time. Could he trains there? Absolutely do you need a change of scenery possibly? Do you need like we? We went through coaches we went through acquiring all the talent we went through creating the playbook and the offense plan to hide deficiencies, and you still end up at this point. Any time you play somebody worked any salt look at the two losses on their record y'all is gonNA, take the quarterback to help win those games. He's going to have to make big plays and in those games against the Ravens in the steelers is it was thirty eight to six and thirty, eight seven. He's the average quarterback to be low average. That's what we is. Greg I think a lot of feel that way. That's too much better like that. Because the problem is right now, Baker Mayfield pulled off such miraculous place from college all the way through the NFL like the problem is the Hydra too high with the highs and the lows are too low with the lows. Well, at least he has the highs like there are plenty of quarterbacks that have the lows that he's showcased over the last couple years but they don't have the highs to go along with it like we're talking about a guy that if we're going to snap the ball sixty seventy times offensively a game he has. Sixty five pretty good place is five plays that are fantastic and then he has five place that are awful if we can just limit those atrocious plays and that just takes focus level that we haven't seen from him over the course of sixty minute ball game. He has a chance to be among the better quarterbacks in the league, but it's just those few demaria ride too hard trying to do too many place that that ended up costing them. Let me let me bookmark this one because I want to come back to it. We've got. I promise him coming back to this because I think it's really interesting alley. We'll put this back in later in the show but Dan Grazziano I did WANNA come to you because I've pointed many times the backup quarterback their case keenum had one great season in his career when his offensive coordinator was Kevin Stefanski, who is now the head coach in Cleveland. What sense do we get that? They might consider making that kind of chain I think it would be down the road I don't think it's soon look Kevin Stefanski is not taking that job. If he doesn't believe he can win with Baker Mayfield. He knew going in that. That's the situation I the sense I get is they're working through it right and they know s emissions to work. On he was playing hurt the other day the rib injury. So they believe things can and we'll get better with Baker. I think he gets more of a leash then benched for case keenum before mid-sized. Okay. We'll come back and talk about this one a little bit more but I needed to save appropriate time for this because right now it is time for us to have pancakes for breakfast. Down is a that is a Tuesday staple. The club. Go, Club. You feel what is paying case? Who pay case three PANCAKES I. It is time for down where Jeff Saturday we'll show. Cakes and people. Theft go. 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Well, how come that can't be three bigger watch this bum and broke pure. Old. Miss Watch him take. This is eleven yards. You know that? No notice ten yards. Go Block. For Bill Gates have to get out of the way. Score with your band you take that do them to the end zone With your desk three. On bad boy. To, follow. My new favorite thing on the show by fun. Outstanding. I came without that could not have gotten any worse for the Dallas Cowboys. They got pancake themselves last night highlights, act.

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I'm the get up with. The news is good and so the race is on. We'll tell you exactly what it will take to get this potential superstar in the draft. Plus speaking superstars wait until you hear what one legend has to say about this one and what that might mean for him in the next month. Lots of football future and often easy night night at the office do the Lakers and the Bron- face a decision he absolutely doesn't want to make answers to those and other questions on this our after we answer these with our insider Jeff Darlington. Let's run the hurry up. What is the latest on Dak Prescott and Dallas? It's not going great greedy. And Look we talk about leverage all the time both sides now trying to look for the leverage that can maybe maybe get this deal done but right now that Prescott looking for Russell Wilson money and not a penny less. If he doesn't get there by the start of free agency. I honestly missile see people call me crazy. Dak Prescott trying to enter free agency. Talked about this earlier. Marcus Spears losing his mind on twitter. We'll get through it. Meanwhile what can you tell us about. Tom Brady look. I know a lot of people are wondering first of all to yourself you wondered yesterday at this decision has been made. I don't believe that in fact I know that not to be true but we can sit here and wonder what is going to look like as he does go into free agency process. Tell you this it's not going to be like it was with Peyton manning you know helicopter chasing around going city the city. It will be clear to be concise and it will happen and then how about this guy a Tango Bilo. We'll look really US saying that. It's hip is feeling good but it's going to be up to what teams decide once team start to really get in there and decide if he's healthy or not find out exactly where he is slotted to go but what I keep hearing is that Detroit pick third overall. It will be up for sale. Detroit will try to get something heavy for that and they'll target a team that is looking to draft to at third spot. Let's get no one is closer to the situation situation. Then Laura is like what what can you fill us in on as far as the medical stuff yeah well. It's very positive reports coming out of everything that's going on with two and that's been the case this whole time time since he had the surgery on that hip and it's just been that he's been ahead of schedule everything that's happened every benchmark. He's been ahead of that and the reports have been fantastic in fact. That's that's a word that a doctor is used to me. That's very close to the thing and I think when these. NFL doctors in these teams are trying to find out more. Greedy important thing you notice. They're looking at the entire history. Three of how this went down and the fact that they were able to perform this surgery so quickly they were able to put the hip back into place. Almost immediately after the injury occurred that gives. He was sure that not only that. The HIP has been already healed. which is a good thing but also that it wouldn't happen again? That's going to be one of the main questions that'll be asked to roll this keyshawn Johnson back with us. This again today was with us yesterday. And he's with us from Bristol. Good morning key. I want to ask you this as you have watched and evaluated the quarterbacks industry before the season began I think everyone everyone thought was the best in your mind if he's healthy. Is he the best quarterback in the draft this year. I had an opportunity to see him places. He's been at Alabama. But you you know to me. I look at his history of injuries. That concerns me if I may general manager President of a team I want my doctors to tell me with uncertain. That at this man can recover and he'll be on the field for not necessarily issue but in a couple of years but in terms of the top quarterback in his draft for me is just in her. I I just like Herbert. I like his size. He showed me some running ability to a degree against Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl. In the thing when you go back to two and you look at what makes makes him great. It's not the arm strength. This is ability to move around. Get outside the pocket by time for the receivers to get open. Will he be able to do that at the next level interesting there and that's not going to see an unpopular opinion but it's sort of opposed to what we're hearing from most people. Bobby I keep referring to. Herbert is the guy that the NFL evaluators we're going to talk themselves into. They're gonNA love him because he is exactly what quarterbacks have historically looked like in the NFL but the League is changing the prototype. He's the guy that everybody wants like. You said however you can you can move around a little work and deliver those off schedule. Plays even Joe. Borough that can underrated athlete. You Watch him pulled the ball down move as pocket presence. You're watching Herbert. I like him. He's does some things well. There's some inconsistencies. There that have a hard time getting over. If you'RE GONNA take him in the top five t sean mentioned the Rose Bowl I think he showed lots of people. There are the questions that I hear about Herbert are does he have that moxie about him. Does he have the ability to lead the way that they would want to see. And you see that from both burrow. Oh intuit that's a big part of this when you look at the guy. He's got everything as you mentioned. But also showed a lot of the senior bowl in a lot of the conversations out of that he had a great senior bowl performance. Norman's Jeff I think probably elevated him at least in some people's eyes I could see him climbing up there and we're not talking about him enough to were to wind up getting drafted three by say a team. Unlike the chargers. That's currently at six. Then maybe team at five like the dolphins ends up looking at Herbert. There are teams in that top. Six more than three or three I should say. They're looking for for quarterbacking. Just one interesting thing on the dolphins and the history lesson that you know people may have been forget it if you go back to two thousand six now drew brees and Dante culpepper. Where the two quarterbacks there were widely assumed you ought ability to free agent pieces drew's coming off the injured shoulder? He doesn't get cleared by the Miami Medical Staff. They ended up going with Dante call. Pepper drew ends up. Going to the New Orleans Saints. It's you have to ask yourself. What's the Miami Dolphins Risk Aversion with brilliant quarterbacks or bringing any player who has an injury history and could they get him cleared? And that's not to say then you couldn't go on to do great things elsewhere as well. Can I ask you one other question. Just because this came up earlier I agree with you. Detroit at three is the spot. I would assume everyone I am if they want to trade up and get the quarterback which suggests to me at all of a sudden the second pick becomes a fascinating one because that isn't a quarterback spot. Now it's chase young and I know you will ever love mm-hmm but does someone look at two and say you know what I gotta go all the way up to there to be sure I get the player I want. I have a tough time believing that because I think that Ron Rivera Voghera will adore and that you know if it was maybe offensive minded guy wanted to get a hall of maybe just think Ron Rivera that could be a perfect generational then roussel talent for him. Let's talk about Tom Brady okay. It's time to do that again. Okay but he's doing something that he hasn't done before exploring the possibility of leaving the New England patriots. It's recently TMZ Hall of fame quarterback Brett Bar about how good Brady actually is entering his twenty first season. Here's what far said. He said quote. I hear a lot of so-called experts. Experts say his age is catching up with them. I don't see that. I see a quarterback. Still doing what he does but the cast around him was not up to par. I think his game is as good as it's ever been so far may not see a regression and Tom Brady's game last season's numbers paint a slightly different picture. He's fifty three point seven total. QBR was worst in a season since the metric began in two thousand six and at forty two years of age his status as a top tier signal. Caller is certainly up in the air. So keyshawn still with us here and looking could blame it on the lack of weapons. But what do you think about Brady keys. He's still at the same level. I kind of agree with Bret for right there when you look at Tom. Brady's body the of work. Let's look at the statistics. It wasn't Brady's fault that the guy dropped the ball and was a pick six at the end of the playoffs. So when you start to break him down there some throws rose that he missed all quarterback mistrals but he didn't have the weapons around him that he had in the past. I know we look at some boss. He they're throwaways because the offense offensive line is not protecting him. He doesn't WANNA take the hits but it look at the end of the day he's dropping dimes on wide receivers. They gotTA catch the ball. They've got to get open. They've gotta do those sorts of things think when he size back with them in they read to this offense align in retool the receiving core. Everybody'll be going damn keyshawn. You were forty seven years old and I'm not convinced you wouldn't have been the best weapon that literally. It was on that kind of level. I just want to make that point to illustrate that I'm completely on your side and I do. I believe that Brady is the same quarterback he was twenty years ago. No one is the same player player. They were twenty years ago but he is still I believe. In Upper Echelon quarterback Julian Edelman was as best target and just had surgery on his shoulder to get a bone that was stuck out of their for most of the season. Back into place. Like what does that tell you about the targets. The Tom Brady had this season. Keyshawn said the numbers. Don't tell you everything nice solution. Because it's not like baseball a one on one sport. So you have to watch some of the throws in the most difficult throws for quarterbacks to make on the football field or those throws outside the numbers plus ten yards and you watch him make some of those he can still rather football with accuracy stories. A good job with that some point time guys got to step up and make a play for the guy I mean. He's doing everything he can. You know why I think that Brady is so frustrated because the reality is if you look at it and why some of them. Some of the inside people at the Patriots treats that people like you talk to are trying to paint a narrative where beatty has lost a little. Something here is because the reality of it is drafted terribly absolutely terribly in the last ask for years. They've made one mistake after another. They've let one good player. After another walkaway they've taken risks in the wrong places and Brady has covered up a lot of other deficient. I feel like we're being very pro. Brady table here and I'm going to continue that by saying that. I remember when REX was here. One time talking about how bill bell checks should be coach of the year for being able to get as much out of these players. He picked the players. He's the one who's responsible for bringing those players into that building so for Tom Brady to have to make the most out of that is one thing if if we look at the first three weeks of the season less than what four or five months ago. Tom Brady looked like he was lead quarterback. Then that's a little bit of the Bill Belichick. GM HIS LETDOWN BILL ballot. Check the head coach at certain points in time and I just want to remind you back to the middle of season when they signed muhammed new. We acted like that was going to be the be all end all. He is the piece that they needed. It was the third receiver the third receiver for the Atlanta Falcons. It's not like this guy was an ace that they were bringing in they bring. Aj Green. He was the one of the backups and so that we expected him to make a big difference and it never material may very quickly throw a key because we talked about earlier this morning and everyone is freaking out. Marcus yelling at us on twitter keyshawn the notion of Brady to Dallas. which again no one is suggesting? Go ahead I see your face go. I can come on seriously. Like why would that conversation wasting airspace. Greeny oh you need these minutes back in your life. Why would you WanNa talk about Brady to Dallas? It'll never happen is he's going to one team is one team. He's going back to New England. I know fascinated with this. I know we want to talk about it and we want to take it all the way up to March eighteenth we want to get there at twelve a am. We wanted to do all those sorts of things but greenie he's going back to New England that will take if this was marriage. Counseling and Bill Belichick and Tom Brady are entering that room. They're going to have to get on a better page in their own right now. Here's what I would say being around bill and having been in in the room with bill in kind of understanding him. He's never go. He's not giving you any love they'll be no love. There's no Kissy Kissy. He's not gonNa tell them what you want to the e end when you retire you'll finally say some positive. We'll finally pat you on the back. That's just so we use news and what happens. Is We spend a lot of our time trying to dissect the relationship the relationship. He found him in the six. It's round he's played for him for twenty years. Think about it. The only quarterback that I can think of you can correct me green because you're historian at this stuff is Joe Montana who was asked to leave the Kansas City chiefs but he went with Paul Hackett his quarterback coach as his offense coordinator later other than that Peyton. Manning had an injury. You don't you don't leave unless they ask you to leave in Iraq. The letter is not asking him to leave the point. I think you're making an I think it is correct is that we've talked a lot about all these legends leave one team in wind up someplace else. It is almost never because they decide they want to be somewhere else else. They were extenuating circumstances. Usually in the fact that Aaron Rodgers is waiting behind Brett farve Andrew Luck is sitting there to be drafted in the colts. Want to move on from Peyton. Those are usually usually the way that stuff goes all that. But you don't have to tell me that you have to tell Tom Brady that because he's the one who's making this decision and after twenty years of getting just just totally. I don't know I can't use the word on TV by Bill Belshazzar. Guess Maybe WanNa go have some fun for a couple years you guys get back on the guy just want a super bowl. Fourteen fifteen months ago stop Khotan. It was twelve months ago. Actually was the defending champs weeks ago go ahead. What's the next business? quarterback actor was also a legend already and said he's not going to go anywhere except the saints unless he retires and he could become an unrestricted free agent so it begs the question in who will be the starting quarterback for the saints. Will it be drew brees. Will it be Teddy Bridgewater. Would it taste until all three are free agents and so our. NFL experts offered their air predictions. And this is interesting. If you look down the line at all of these experts our Dan Glaviano all these guys say that either be drew brees or teasing nobody says Teddy Bridgewater Which I think a lot of people you look at all the free agent quarterback that are going to be part of Teddy Bridgewater? Seems like a guy that could go somewhere else key when you see how everybody's buddies kind of predicting this between drew brees going back to the saints instead of retiring Ortega some hill being the guy there and then where does teddy bridgewater fallen. All of this. What are your thoughts? It's it's GonNa be drew brees. Drew brees is running back. And Sean Payton and this is one of those classic situations. Teddy Bridgewater has an opportunity to make money. He hasn't you know he he. If he didn't get hurt and Minnesota he being obviously their quarterback it doing terrific things if tastes him. He'll was such the guy that we all thought how come he was at number. Two on the depth chart in starting those five games at Teddy Bridgewater started for them. I I just I find it hard and understand we love taste some. He'll it's one thing to throw thirteen passes in your career. It's another thing. The engineer sixty plays in a game in the NFL came in not things that are designed designed for you to have success. So I don't necessarily see Sean Payton putting this team that's a super bowl ready team in some heels hands I just I don't see it. I tend to agree. And maybe it's just because I'm sort of a skeptic on this stuff but what is tasteful. He looks like someone said in here the other day. He's a great AAC change of pace but if he's the pace then you have a problem. I think what Sean Payton's ultimate dream is and his goal is to begin to change that pace over the course of this year where they begin to integrate integrated more into the offense to help him heal views himself as a potential franchise quarterback. So he does. It is just a gimmick guy who's running around whose catching passes assist running out of the backfield that ultimately they begin to build some packages and build some more things for him to play quarterback so that they can make a smooth transition which is probably not going to happen. this year but maybe next season while the hill can be a free agent. That's the question is is someone else out there thinking of signing him and making their starting quarterback I think the saints are fearful of that and and from the standpoint. You talked about him being the fridge. He'd be a restricted. Free agent. The saints I would anticipate put a first round tender on him which means that if a team wants to come after him they have to give give a first round pick to the saints and the saints have the chance to match. It should be clear it means they pay him more money right now in case you're wondering what what does that mean. They don't just willy they give these things out it means they have to pay more teams. Rarely do because you do have to pay more money to your point before I see them. If breeze war to retire I C K some hill returning earning with the first round tender. But I still see Teddy Bridgewater Week. One person keyshawn great to see you as always thank you for jumping in with us here and we will see down here tomorrow so you can and yell at us. Yeah and some of the things that certain people say the story of my career. I've done keyshawn. Thank you so much. We'll see you tomorrow meanwhile to the NBA NFL. Oh by the name of Bron. James and the Lakers hosting the suns last night. We're going to pick up the action in the second quarter because the brain is throwing just dimes. Maybe he showing farnum. Should be the quarterback for the chargers here is he available via free agency for the NFL. If he is I would sign them because he has been delivering on spot on target. on-time all season long six assists in the first half and then he's throwing nice passing. Aw Green any defense sons defense. Optional Evidently Lakers at a nine point halftime lead. We got to the third quarter. And here's more Lebron just flick pass. It's just it's really getting to a point where it's silly getting amazement with his ability to pass not just his ability to score their bad moment. Here pay no attention to where the basketball goes. Just watch lebrons Lebron's on this play here as you see elbow that sort of word kids there. He's holding it. He's he's sort of shaking out. Here's the good news. He stayed in the game. Obviously it wasn't that bat and clearly. It didn't interfere with his touch because very immediately afterwards he throws that touch pass. Just the LAKER success. This season it has been largely predicated upon Lebron. James is the ability to facilitate as offense and make those around him about it and knocked down trees when they need him too. He puts something game. He had seventeen points points. Nine assists eight rebounds tonight Lakers pulling away easily and then it was a night that belonged to a fellow by the name of one John Rondo. Who Rondo what say you attorney say he had twenty three point a season high for him and it was the Lakers and easy win one twenty five one hundred Lebron and the Lakers the top seed in the the West right now? Second Best Record in the sport been playing in the shadow of honest to some degree all year. The two of both accounted for over twenty percent of their team's total points this year and most agree that you are the leading candidates for the MVP award. I don't know that Lebron replacing anybody's shadow but Janas obviously has been spectacular if you had to vote for. MVP right right now. Who did you give it to? It's Lebron James and I tell you there's there's multiple reasons why it stands out to me. That Lebron is over you on us and I get the fact of the bucks or having this great season and Yoenis has been so strong but some of this has to do with reinventing yourself and understanding how you can control the game. He's always been an elite level. Passer let's put this into some context. He's thirty five years years of age. He's never lead the NBA and assist the last thirty five year. Old led the League in assists. You WanNa know the name Steve. Nash slightly different physical stature. Between the two. It's done a tremendous job. Really orchestrating his offense hitting everybody involved. The competition strength also has to be about. The Western Conference is superior to the Eastern Western Conference. And in fact you look at the head to head matchups. The Western Conference is plus twenty eight Games over the east. So you put up a lot of big numbers. But he's putting it up against inferior competition. Asian compared with speaking to that in which Lebron James is having to go against a night in night out basis. Who's he'd be guarded by guys like Coli Leonard on a consistent basis? I I think you've got to put some value and stock in that and then greatest value overall the Rio plus minus is the best way to value your impact to the team's success. Lebron and James is number one in the NBA and is thirty five percent better. Thirty five percent better in that analytical stat over your honest who is number two in the NBA. So when you look at the overall value and what you mean to your team what you mean to your organization. That's why you put the onus on Lebron James That's why he's my MVP. I like AH sometimes sort of an emotional vote is what people will go. He's thirty five years old. Yana says years to do this. I'm with you I think if everything stays as it is. I think that he will wind up. Winning it okay. We'll take a short break as we continue the chargers make it official. Philip rivers won't be back will he be an. NFL started week one next year. We'll answer that question and after rushing the crowd and billy Joel embiid gets cryptic on instagram about his future. How's the process? Look in these days. We're talking about it coming up on. ESPN ESPN how do you judge someone. Not by what they say by what they do. We're a nation nation of doers. What's my Bloomberg about doing things? 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I can say for certain that if I'm playing it's a two year. Maximum whoever the sooners are I think that would be their hope as well out because you never know how it goes shoot if we stink it up after one year. I'm probably done. We play really good. They'll probably want to go again so it feels like there's a couple of things to be said here. I suppose his future is the place to start. Do we believe he is an NFL. Starting quarterback week on twenty twenty. I love that quote. Second of all I think he is the problem with that is. It's going to come down to one or two teams. I don't WanNa Steal Bobby's thunder here. But he had a great call about the colts that feels like a really good fit. That's one of thirty two teams. If the coach for some reason decided to go into different directions all of a sudden Philip rivers still starter in the league. I don't know there's not that many options. Why do you like a call? It's Bob because if you look at this it's all about fit and guys who played together coach together like do they have weapons window to win now. Philip rivers was on the staff with him instant in San Diego Geico when they were back to San Diego chargers and they've got a offensive line that can protect. Philip rivers not very similar. Tom Brady is a statue back back there and so he needs protection. That was one of the main issues within this year. Is when you begin. Moving these guys around. They're not nearly as effective as efficient from the pocket. And so you do that and give them some weapons. You have a great adventure in a dome you play in the south like all of these things. I think square up well for Philip so to that point though is he a starter in the league. Like it's fascinating the Tom Brady. The greatest of all time is doesn't have thirty two teams coming after. And why is that because teams either feel like they are building towards the future or they feel like if they have their franchise guy in place. There's not that many teams that are looking for just a two year guy to come in and maybe win right now. Let's not forget. Philip did struggled mightily this year. He was not very good at all. But if you go by two years they were contending with the chiefs like they were battling with them as a chance to win the AFC west. So I think if you give give him that offensive line Andrew protect him he can be that guy again for you throw a year to. He's not playing for four or five years. Give me one or two committee you bring them into the let them compete with code percent. I don't think he would be opposed to that. Yeah another teen people have thrown out. Maybe at another team would be Tampa Bay potentially depending on what they do with James Winston. Where do you guys think fits in the hall of fame? Conversation can assist is tough because if you look even at his own class yeah you gotTa ally Manning you've got ben offer both of those guys multiple Super Bowl winners. Philip rivers pro. Here's the best stats out of all. We wait thing so heavily on winning super. They were both that. If you don't have those you have to be markedly better than just about anyone else in your generation and Philip rivers is that market. So that's why I was looking at my phone loaned texted me this list. It's the reason that I was gonna read it. These are the quarterbacks who were in the hall of fame who never won the championship. I if you're compare his career to those I think I think he probably fits in last. I think he is seventh on that list of seven people that said I believe he's a hall of Famer. That's my opinion if I had I had to bet on it right now I would bet that he will make it into the hall of fame not easily immediately but I think he will get hidden. Wasn't everybody on that list. And the whole fame. I didn't make those six quarterbacks who are in the hall of fame champion those guys. A lot of them had been two super bowls bowls. Philip rivers has not been to the Super Bowl. I always like to use the qualification where you wanted the best two or three guys of your air for three to four years and I don't know if if you can get there with Philip rivers. It'll be an interesting question and it's one they'll be debating in a room somewhere at some point in the meantime we'll see if he winds up playing one more year tweet. This space booth at social media doesn't count at all twitter doesn't count at all. I don't have Internet Internet. I don't have twitter twitter. facebook with the the twits. That's just how people are don't proceed. I'm sick of it with time for a new segment that we're doing right now and get told back fricking twitter and for the record I agree with all of those very smart people talking about twitter. Joel embiid is subject of this one. He's getting back to his old self Sunday versus the bulled. After being booed in the third quarter in beedon emphatic dunk. Then you saw him signaling. That should to the Philly home crowd not once but twice. Okay so then. EMBIID takes to instagram on Monday. Posting this photo of themselves just seeing the crowd and quoting the dark nights you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain hashtag tagged process. Of course Jimmy Butler former teammates took notice and replied. I know a place where villains are welcome of course Butler right now with the heap to what envied then replied Jiang right. My brothers so embiid went on twitter as this continued in later in the night and said made for this. If I can take can you can to Villa Hashtag all love so. Seems like a little backtrack there for Joel embiid. But as we continue with that frigging twitter. Sean what what did you think of it. I'm just honored that you selected me to be the inaugural person to be standing next to you during this segment. What stands out to me is Shushi vans in Philadelphia? Lv has never worked. It's not going to start working now. A responding on social media you have to be smart. You have to be mature in how you allow yourself so to be exposed in the public form and then to all of a sudden try to backtrack to soften it. Does it help out that much either and to me me this just shows someone. That's having a good time right now. Not Understanding it will be taking publicly Which shows a lack of maturity which I think plays into some of the lack of leadership that we're seeing overall for the Philadelphia seventy sixers and their struggles? I see differently to be honest with you. You know we spent a week and a half ago. Laura we were. We were with Baker Mayfield within everyone psychoanalyzing him and all that kind of stuff and at the end of the day you can adapt you can evolve but at the end of the day you are who you are. This is who Joel Embiid is Joel. EMBIID is sure shing the fans in his own arena. Because they were doing him and that's either going to work. It's not you telling me Eh that that is the difference between embiid being whatever it is we would like him to eventually be. Ought to be exactly who you are and I agree with you even going back to his earlier earlier years he social media all all the time to take shots at other people and go after them. That is who he is. That's fine okay. But when you're talking about the process and trying to win a championship and watching this is team perform right now. This is not a team that is meeting the expectations that were set for them. Going back to last July mentioned this yesterday four players on this team with one hundred million million dollar contracts when they're on the floor together their mind is three on the season. That's not good enough. That's not getting the process to the end result and eventually the process has to change to the result. Okay so when you think about obviously why they're having these struggles a lot of people say it's because Jimmy Butler is not. What do you make of the Jimmy Butler piece of his comment back to Joel Joel? EMBIID look Jimmy's having fun and we've seen this all the time in the NBA. We're players will openly say. Hey come play with me. Come be a part of this and he goes that tampering. No it's the relationships a lot of these guys have. Obviously they have a previous relationship that goes back to last season in Philadelphia. It begs the question because it came up last week. Recall ask it to you if they do decide after this year that this dynamic duo that we have here to go back to a dark knight reference. EMBIID and Simmons isn't going to work long longterm. We have to move one. Which one are you keeping a right now Ben Simmons? I think because of the fact that you're dealing with a player that has missed more games than he's actually played who his office. Who is going to be on the floor most for you? Who are you going to get the most out of? It's not the Joel. EMBIID isn't talented enough. He is but the same concerns that we've had from day one of playing at Kansas missing. Tomek Kansas announcing time in the NBA. Their ever present. And if I'M GONNA make an investment I want somebody that I know that I can count on a night in night out basis when you're talking about eighty two games over the course regular season and then the postseason after that I will continue to say I will take embiid because like the only one saying it but like most geniuses. I won't be fully appreciated until after my time. Let's run the floor Deangelis Russell. Twenty two points five assists at his T. wolves debut it wasn't enough to cool off the red hot raptors who won their fifteenth straight great his Toronto the biggest threat to Milwaukee East No I don't think they are. I think's Boston still will be the biggest threat. I think you have to put in the context of this fifteen game win streak. It's happening against one of the weakest overall schedules Over a fifteen game stress that we've ever seen in the NBA. That doesn't take away the fact that they've won fifteen consecutive games button. It doesn't put them to the point where you're talking about the Milwaukee but warriors honored Andre iggy dollar before his first game back in the bay area last night. What kind of impact do you see him? Having now see I think he's going to have a solid impact. I think a lot more of the intangibles that you're gonNA look for him. I don't know how productive he's going to be we've seen in the first couple of games. He's breaking off some of that rust from the extended period of time. I'm off I'm Jay. crowder is going to have more of an impact on the court for this team. Obviously much better than we even anticipated because of Jimmy Butler ability to impact the heat this year. Put Him in position so to get in the playoffs. Zionistic game with an ankle. Says he's ready to go. Now he was a full participant in practice. How do they need to be with? I think you cannot be cautious enough was as I on Williamson. You need to nurse him through his first year. You need to continue to work on his overall fitness level and allow him to have longevity because it's a long term process. The PELICANS with Zion right now are not going to compete with the clippers. The Lakers the nuggets the jazz. So if that's not the case then try to get into the playoffs with him but trying to nurse him through this year and make sure you have a bright future we will continue the NFL. Seen its fair. Share of officiating controversies. I'll tell you what the XFL may have the solution for for them. That's the great thing about facts. They're proven like the fact that crude oil contains impurities were their base. Oil made from natural gas is ninety. Nine point five percent free impurities ladies and the fact that pennzoil is the first vetting motor oil made from natural gas not crude oil. It gives you unbeatable engine protection. The proof is in the pennzoil based on sequence for a word test using E W thirty getting twenty two dollars Gift Card with the pennzoil full synthetic purchase ends two twenty three twenty terms apply details of pennzoil dot com slash oil change offer honestly hidden in its wealth around. I didn't think I needed a knockout at all. I think I did just enough to get the job done. I can't go to about night thinking the nearly knocked me for a whole just when I connected right right hand followed behind him dropping like that and seeing his spang stretch from his neck. I definitely thought it was over. And he should have been fool Brooklyn the is full. Second Ghetto is just straight. Talk to me like amazed with that point. I think that is the hardest hit someone and they've gotten up from it wasn't meant to be wildest time wasn't my time to lose. I told very two years ago that I was GonNa Baptize. And that's exactly what occur what you know. As in a baptism they always rise. Good it is. The most anticipated title fight in history in recent history is undefeated heavyweight champion. deontay wilder takes unbeaten Tyson fury and the rematch. The world has been waiting for. It's live on pay per view February twenty-second Nine Eastern. Get it on. ESPN plus I want to get to this. I tried to get to it yesterday. We didn't have gone from the XFL over the weekend heading into the season. A lot has been made some of the unique rules and innovations the league implemented and one of the things that stood out was the transparency of their replay reviews. If you were watching you saw this you saw basically you could hear the conversation precision between the replay official and the official down on the field in addition to the transparency rules. That were no coaches challenges. All places subject to review by the replay official the replay official official can correct any obvious errors significant impact on the outcome in the final five minutes of the fourth quarter and overtime. Listen Okay Ah I was one of the first advocates going all the way back to the early days of Mike and Mike four replay in football and all of sports. I believe there is a place for it. I believe we have taken it places it was never meant to go there is so much more replay then there should be and the reality is what I saw at least in the game I was watching on Sunday. I watch the guardians against the vipers and I watched the way they handle that I thought the NFL really could adopt some of this. They don't have coaches challenges. That's nonsense there shouldn't be any strategy involved in getting a call right at the end of the day of someone sees blatantly missed call sitting upstairs then correct it and let's get on with our lives if it isn't blatant didn't leave it alone and as far as the transparency. I don't know any obvious reason why the NFL couldn't let us hear some of that conversation. Between Al Reveron who frequently it comes on twitter and explains the reasoning behind rulings. Why wouldn't let us hear that conversation and I think it would? It would put a little bit of at least quiet a little bit at some of the noise that surrounds some of these these rules breath now that we got that makes logical sense. You don't America if we get a little bit of something thing more must always be better pile more replay on replay everything and then I had the strategy component to it. There's two things I was wondering. Why is the guy on the field? Have to run on over to a monitor whether it's football basketball whatever and that's the best view you're gonNA get in some sort of you know with the elements and who knows what the angles like. Have a guy in the booth in a stale environment. Look at got it real time. Couple of replays. Hey thumbs up thumbs down. But then that last piece the most important piece as you mentioned the transparency everybody who's watched a game and they see a call it's either overturned overturned. How did he get to that point? What was the logic behind that? Listen to him talk it out. You may not necessarily agree with them. But at least then and you'll be like I know that this person is wrong and I heard them say I don't agree with them but I don't think there's some massive and you just hit the word that I was thinking about. Because what does everybody think. Think when their team gets robbed conspiracy. They picture the REF on the headset with New York. Being like okay. Roger Goodell the Patriots to get to the Super Bowl here so while it's obvious visit. That was passed interference. We're going to say no. Pass interference show us. That's not the case and by the way can you imagine the fascinating moment. If at a huge moment in the season everybody quiets down the house to listen exactly what they're saying about review. I love greedy. Look I've only had limited experiences and officials but I would imagine from the officials in. What does that mean Zeke? I really was a guest official one time a couple years ago for a Georgia Spring Game. But that's neither here there. I would think the officials would actually want this transparency like this is an opportunity for them to be like an hour onto but anybody else who's involved like. Hey here's here's what happened. We we can analyze it or we can talk about it but from their standpoint. There's at least less mystery behind it which then Greenie leads to more people wanting to do this job that nobody seems seems to want to do. Listen network you're watching an NFL game on you. Hear a former official sitting up there explaining what it is. They're looking at right whether it's ours or CBS es or Fox or whatever we all have our guy who does that. I don't see any reason. I don't see an obvious reason. Perhaps some point out to me something that I'm not aware of. I don't see an obvious reason you you couldn't have that. And I certainly believe that replay should be taken out of the hands of the coaches. It was never. It should never have gotten to that and just be something simple overturned overturned the egregious mistake and leave everything else alone. Meanwhile let's get back to something we talked about earlier. All is of course are on impending free agent. Tom Brady as we await his decision where he'll play next season and earlier this morning. We were recklessly. Speculating that perhaps. The Dallas cowboys could be a destination. And our buddy marcus figures. Here's the big swag who are trying to on twitter. That he's not having it. This is what he tweeted at. USC tweeted at Brady. went to the cowboys. which would be a dumb move by both? Who would play quarterback for the cowboys in twenty twenty two when Brady retires and let me point that we said to Marcus? WanNa come on and talk about this but Marcus is at the dentist so I don't know why this moment it can't come on. Maybe he'll come on tomorrow. In the interim let's go back to what we were talking about. Why are you shaking your first of all? This will be more painful to Marcus. What I'm about to say then the dentist but why is it such a bad idea for Brady? What he says? It's bad for both sides. It seems like a great idea for Brady. If you really look at it I mean cowboys are stacked. They're ready ready to win now. They've got ownership. That would certainly be supportive of it. And who's GonNa play quarterback in twenty twenty two who knows. Why does it matter Jerry? Jones wants right now a super bowl you right now. That's all he cares about Bob Seger. We've got tonight who needs tomorrow. Act Jerry Jones is on board with that. He said back in ninety five. He sold his soul to get that third super bowl. He's trying to figure out what else he can sell to get the fourth. It doesn't matter at this point so it would fit work. Maybe what are the Patriots to Jerry. Doesn't care about that. That but this Dallas cowboys roster is much better than England roster and there's no Lamar Jackson the Ravens. There's no Pat Mahomes in the Kansas City chiefs. The NFC is a much much easier conference to manage at this point and able to come out of this is crazy. Has It you you've got DAK Prescott. Who signed to a ten year old? Why would we? Why would you not if you're going if you're Jerry Jones and you're going to pay somebody all that money you're you're inclined to now pay dot Prescott almost forty million a year? Why not just do it with Tom Instead? Why not what's the problem there? The only problem with it is that it is a short term solution and not a long-term solution. I'm not disagreeing with you. That would it'd be the issue is I mean. Marcus isn't is pointing that is correct. Brady is a very short term answer whereas got could be great. The question is just how great you think Dak Prescott is that that really is what this comes down to. It is not it is I. Don't think that it is just an easy thing to say. Tom Brady equals greater than Dak.. Prescott this coming year. I don't know that that's for sure it's likely true. His overall body of work obviously is other worldly but do you definitively have a better chance of winning the Super Bowl this coming year with Brady Brady then Prescott. Here's one other thing. Sticking to account to Dak Prescott. His contract demands are fairly steep trying to thirty million dollars. A guy and Tom Brady. WHO's been more concerned owned with winning throughout his career than extracting every last dollar if he's willing to go to Dallas and say for thirty million and we take that other eight billion in spend it on other players hoping to enhance that? I don't think that's and then Bella Chick. Signs Dash got the dynasty record. So good Jeddah fan and me deciding. This is going to somehow wind up. Being a disaster for the jet is the one thing I can assure you. I have no idea where Tom Brady is going to go. But I can assure you whatever happens. It'll be bad at the one thing I know with me on planet Earth. DC defenders had over seventeen thousand fans for their XFL debut over the weekend again and on some third party websites tickets for the game. We're going for higher prices than tickets for red. Okay Oh goodness madness. That is that is amazing. I'm not really sure what to say about that. With Ron Rivera ended without comment all right once again this year. We'll we'll have coverage from the NFL scouting combine at Lucas Oil Stadium February twenty seven through March first. NFL Live will ever reports that week on ESPN NFL network. Will I've it's usual for coverage as as well all of our coverage is also available on the ESPN APP. So you can watch from anywhere guarding Kawhi Leonard Former team and reigning champions the raptors one fifteen gene straight. Any chance choirs regretting has moved to La. Stephen and Max discuss that and more. I take five minutes here on. 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Hour 1: Saints Marching In?

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Hour 1: Saints Marching In?

"Where's your haircut gone? We know you don't get out as much. You don't drive by irregular sport clips and pop in for that MVP haircut experience that is so much more than a haircut but isn't it worth getting out for the data legendary hot steam towel for your face massaging shampoo that makes you melt into your seat your remember that right? Clips found your haircut. It's right where you left it sport clips. It's good to be a guy. G Sante will in Subic, the podcast. Indeed Shaw, it was a big stop in the big easy and a big win for the new, Orleans Saints on Monday night football. But when you think about the stats, you look at the stats, the chargers don't lead the league in many statistics but they do lead the league in one unofficial category and have for years got punching heartbreaking losses. That's the only way. The chargers lose games good morning welcome inside Keyshawn, Jay will and Zubin. Will have insurance. Jay We'll we'll be. Back. Tomorrow. He rest rain. And I. Think it's tough for the New Orleans Saints. You talked about I mean on the brain for the saints was look we don't have a preseason. We don't have rookie camp minicamp ot as anything, but we'll be fine because we have an established quarterback who's forty one but experience no drop off before this season started we got Michael Thomas, your nephew who didn't play for disciplinary reasons watch so. But allegedly, but was off to the best start for any wide receiver in league history caught one hundred and forty nine dollars this year nobody's ever caught more balls into single season he have Alvin Kamara. So a little bit more of the offensive owners will fall on him. You don't have a great defense, but what does it matter a? Great Defense and this year scoring is at an incredible clip. There have been plenty of stories done about why scoring is up in their variety of reasons. So if you're the saints, it's like listen no fans some adversity, their sort of built for it and last night they may have revalidated that but going into last night that was a big issue but you think the bigger story is the team that. Lost again in heartbreaking fashion but maybe not too many of those left because of the kid they got under center then might be able to turn the tide sooner rather than later the sort of signs they were my preseason super bowl picked to make it to the super bowl out the NFC and that stays the same once they get Mikey back then and Michael Thomas back people know him as Mikey. I think that they'll get better on an offense and they'll be more consistent and drew brees will be the quarterback that we all thought that he would be starting to begin the season but when you look at the Charges the LA charges that is they found the quarterback in Herbert a guy who's phenomena red zone big strong pocket awareness. Tough luck though. Obviously. The first game against the Kansas City chiefs go schilling coach Walkover. Jim. Said you're the starter. He went in. He played perfect as you could play for guy who didn't know he was starting that game until game. Time. In any as you fast forward, you look at the Tampa Bay buccaneers game. Any look at last night's game. I don't even know how people would even question his ability as a quarterback now no one is everybody said Oh my God he's starting to make it four touchdowns last night two, hundred, sixty, four yards in the air and he was twenty of thirty four. When you look at him. And I've had the pleasure of watching him throughout his college career because I was living on the West Coast in Los Angeles Ucla USC, Oregon, Kids Oregon, kid, but I've I've had a chance to see him play in the PAC twelve conference. What I watched him of close in person. I knew his ability a new. He had the the arm strength. I knew he had the ability to get out escape trouble because he can run at Rose Bowl last year he scored touchdowns with his legs against Wisconsin. So when you watch him criticize people criticize him during the draft process of Sydney Cinema. So what are they looking at? What did they see when you evaluate the talented? Oregon he wasn't throwing to Keenan Allen it Mike Williams he was receivers that will never play on Sundays in the national football league that's just the the facts of it and he was pretty dominate. I think though. People get caught up in what others say instead of really doing their own homework evaluations on the kid in the charges. Got It. Right we all figured okay. Why didn't they sign Cam Newton in the off season because they are a quarterback away which they were quarterback and I think they found that guy it just in Herbert it hasn't turned in the WS quite yet. There are team is young they lose that game last night because the young they lose to seventeen point lead over the last couple of weeks because they're young, it's relatively a young football team. We think about Austin accurate. You'd think about Bolsa. You think about James at the safety position Mike Williams to a degree. A little long to but. The nucleus of the team is a young football team so. I think it's coming. You know anti has tough breaks feel co kickers. You know in his four years there they've kind of hit and miss on some kicking games it in the long field goal last night just barely outside. The goal posts don't they go into the overtime and then New Orleans veteran team knows how to go down there and win the game. Here's one thing about Justin herber people don't think about and you referenced everything they've overcome. They probably should've beaten the chiefs chiefs hit to fifty eight yard field goals to win that game but they were up eleven points in the third quarter in Herbert's first NFL game as you mentioned coming in minutes before after tyrod, Taylor had a mishap with a punctured lung about killing Jim. We're we're we're just think about it for from your standpoint we're standing. On the sidelines of. The National Championship. Game. In. Kirk Arab street or Chris Fowler or somebody can't go grab you say Z.. We need you to do this. It's like, Oh, I got to do what? Even, though you may be prepared a, you may have studied something but you on the sidelines to do radio not in the booth to do television think about it even from broadcasting perspective Jim, Nansen Tony Romo, recalling the game and when they saw her trot onto field look they have more access than anybody to the players before the game and when they saw Herbert Trot onto the field, they were stunned they had no idea what was going on. So he performs well in that game loss then you mentioned they're up seventeen to, Tom. Brady couldn't hold on their up. Seventeen last night they are in their a terrible one score team. They are absolutely terrible one score team. They cannot win one score games whatsoever and I think when people saw him at college and there is no I think I know when people saw him against Arizona state in Marvin Lewis at herm Edwards Antonio, Pierce Defense Khanna negate him and do things to him out of Asu people automatically assume Oh, but this was the first time in his young career that he had faced defeat real pro defensive-minded guys think about her was that Tony Appears Marvin Lewis. Downing Arizona State. And up defenses to embarrassed key on a national stage and they did that and that essentially kept him out of the college football player in that kept the college football playoffs but it also said a narrative and people's mind as though he can't handle the stuff that they're bringing doing. One more thing I want to mention, and this is something you would know since you covered him in the PAC twelve and this is why I think. This story is great boroughs a great story Annaborough had come out after his first. Year Lsu obviously never would have went first overall tool was amazing from when he came into rescue that national championship game but picked right behind him was herbert to ahead all the shine in the world and borough. Let's be honest. He's to colleges were Ohio state and Lsu so I don't want to hear the underdog story with Joe Borough Right? It's like Tom. Brady wasn't that athletic folks he played in Michigan Okay he was drafted by the Montreal Expos. Don't tell me he wasn't an athlete. Here's the thing with Justin Herbert. He grew up one mile one mile from autzen stadium, which is home of the ducks. He and his father used to walk the ducks games like as a fan and now twenty years later people are walking ducks games. His Dad is walk into the stadium and other people got Herbert on their back Great Story Fund. Cute. But when he arrived in Eugene, he was the six string quarterback. Yeah. He's a pre. Med. Major football didn't work out. He would be a doctor. He was the TA a teaching assistant in biology is a quiet kid. Have you noticed for a guy that plays in? La was a heisman finalists, not technically a finalist but a guy, a lot of people thought was good enough to be finalised. The long hair everything he had gone. He Went Zach swine, his junior year right to play with his brother who is coming in as tight end. But he finished up his career I. think There's something about the fact that you walk in as a six string guy nobody had any clue who you were. You're basically in the ZIP code your Indie area nobody knows who you are. You went to high school in Eugene you play college in Eugene you show up five. Dudes in front of you undaunted waited his turn bawled out when he got there and I think that press story says something about the way he's been able to handle this and in in in heaven and our producer, we had conversations about young quarterbacks in and I've always said I need a guy three years plus I need a guy who's been in college for three years plus I don't want the one year guy one year wonders that I I just I need a guy that's been there like adjusted herber who's gone the distance to kind of really understand the maturity there's going to be. An NFL quarterback. Rare enough. We Are Presented by progressive insurance all of our guests on the Shell Pennzoil performance line including NFL insider, Dan Glaviano, and Super Bowl champion Jeff. Saturday will all be here to pine their thoughts on Justin Herber Dan it's seven Jeff Saturday at seven thirty. Still on the way you think the browns of at a ton of quarterbacks trying to find the right one since coming back into the league. Wait till you see the list that the bills have had since. Jim Kelly retired after the nineteen ninety-six season. Do they finally have their answer find out on Tuesday night football? Remember being in your favorite sport clips getting set for that great MVP haircut experience. Yeah. How about if we made that weight even shorter. Now sportclips Ondeck text alerts when you check in online or with our APP, we'll text you a fifteen minute heads up when it's time to head in and when you're the next man up, you'll get another text come take your seat less wait time more prime time sport clips. It's good to be a guy. Where's your haircut gone? We know you get out as much you don't drive by irregular sport clips and pop in N. VP haircut experience. That is so much more than a haircut but isn't it worth getting out four for that legendary hot steam towel for your massaging shampoo that makes you melt into your seat Oh man you remember that right? We found found your haircut. It's right where you left sport clips. It's good to be guy. And for ADC brought to you by red box new at Red Box irresistible hilarious comedy from the Right Director John Stewart starring Steve Carell in Rose Byrne visit red box, dot com for all the ways to watch. Let's start with a little nfl the jets Adam gays his head coach conceding. It may be time for him to give up playcalling the quote from gays key chuckles try not to go all out laughter here. Court I mean, I. Don't think I've ever been opposed to trying something to try to change things up I'd say everything is on the table at this point key think you think everything's I'll tell you what how everything's been on the table it is might be knocked off the table here soon, enough the jets are and five there. In Miami, on Sunday, they have scored seventy five points in five games this season remember when. I said at tons of teams were scoring points. There's an addendum to that, and obviously the jets seventy five points in five games and gays who of course got the job because of so-called offensive playcalling genius proclivity is now willing to give up the one thing that many people thought ended up landing him the job maybe may not be so good at this. Why don't you try? They'll be back in Miami cases old stomping. Grounds again on Sunday, the NHL top free agent Alex Petra Angelo was with the LAS. Vegas Golden Knights seven year deal with sixty one point six, million dollars again it's all funny money. But that type of money in the NHL is gigantic we're to ridiculous NBA Contracts Major League baseball contracts even the top level NFL contracts even though they're not guaranteed but seventy or sixty, one point six is gigantic in hockey. That's good for. Alex Helmick side I can't wait to get to Vegas next year watching skate. He's at a great couple years. Remember he was a member of the Saint Louis. Blues couple of years ago they won the Stanley Cup. He goes from Saint Louis to Las Vegas Little College football the Florida Gators head coach Dan Mullen raise some eyebrows over the weekend after his team lost the Texas A. and M. at Kyle field he felt like. There was just great energy there in college station and as such he is asked the swamp Florida's Home Stadium. Ben Grill Ben Grin Griffin Hill stadium excuse me that seats eight, thousand, five, hundred, forty, eight, fans eighty, eight, five, forty, eight. He wants it full on Saturday when they take on. Lsu Part of the reason he's asking for that is because Florida's Governor Rhonda Santa's key recently lifted covid nineteen restrictions essentially saying if they. WanNa go total capacity at any stadium around the state of Florida you can do it and that gave mullen the okay to say eight, five, four, eight I want every seat full I don't know if that's a smart idea coaches got to rethink that I really do I think he needs to rethink that indeed. So we'll see what ends up happening Dan Mullen wants the swamp full like it used to be pre corona virus Of course, the swamp spurrier all of that you go back and he's bringing it back. The offense is there. It's fun gun. We'll wait to see if they'll be eight, thousand, five, hundred, forty, eight to see them take on Lsu who has had an offensive and specially defense collapse Alaska again, that wouldn't be smart. Yes. We'll see what happens on the field for sure. He's got five losses in two years he's been great but. Maybe. Not Great in this particular regard. Great. A good way to describe Josh Allen Time for straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless. It is Tuesday night football. As we mentioned, we'll get into the titans who haven't played a game since September twenty seventh in just one moment you might remember that game that was the one they want against the Vikings with field goal in the final seconds. But the real story here is Josh Allen. What kind of player. He can be he has been an MVP candidate key, and since Jim Kelly retired after the nineteen ninety-six and the legendary bills quarterback who took them to four straight super bowls. He's been very bullish. On Josh, Allen he thinks he's the guy won a real off just some of the guys just some of the guys they've had quarterback since Jim Kelly retired none of them have been the answer with the idea that maybe just maybe this guy is you ready for some I could start just off the top about hit. Rob Johnson Rob Johnson Uso Doug Flutie Doug Flutie. Blake's flutie flakes after that were. What's the kid that got drafted? top teams the first pick. J P. Lost Lawson to lane two lanes on the list. Any of these people stand out to you know, okay rob I know but. Flutie was a nice story at the time but no, but go ahead. Give me. There's some data and again, you got to be a pretty hardcore NFL fan for somebody's Flutie of you know okay. Drew Bledsoe we know. was traded from Buffalo I mean from New England obviously if it's magic. Magic. Okay. Kyle Orton. The S right. tyrod Taylor t there tod collins. The Takao from Michigan. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Talk Collins Alex. Van Pelt Alex Van Pelt. Kelly Holcomb. I don't remember Kelly Hokum in there had Louis Kid from Duke remember him. Yeah. He was there for a cup of coffee and last and probably least Peterman. Nathan Peterman remember him. Perceptions or whatever it was and a half five. They actually benched and I'll never understand it I am brandon beams good friend of mine who's a general manager and I know Sean McDermott but I've never had that conversation with like what the Hell I'll take it. 'cause tyrod Taylor was playing well, he actually led them to the playoffs that year but they bench deep in he went out to La to play the chargers in the peterbilt through like five picks and a half and they kept me busy okay five six and a half. So long story short to essentially say now we've arrived Josh Allen I know he's not your MVP, front runner but this is a great great spot he is breaking. Records. Left and rights, and through the first three weeks of the NFL season he'd actually set records league-wide not just buffalo is what are you thinking about him tonight? Well, this is this is an opportunity on a I would call this obviously a prime time game. It's a Tuesday they're the only game in town for people across the country to get a look at this kid to really see what he's capable of doing. The are danner allow ski tried to warn us about him a week or so ago but he put him in an MVP conversation and I don't think he's quite there yet because I think defensively, they have a lot to do with winning those football games. But surely, on the offense aside, he's done a tremendous job since being drafted out of Wyoming there was a lot of questions marks about his character coming out of school how as teammates would embrace him based on some of his early teenage tweets that he put out there that has since gone away and he's redeemed himself as far as in that locker room with his teammates and you could tell based on how they respond to him on the field straight talk wireless no contract no compromise still on the way some very interesting comments from the top rung of the Cowboys About Dak Prescott, and some very interesting comments from the top rung of the Atlanta Falcons on Matt Ryan. When you need your bank capital one is right in the palm of your hand. So you can check your balance deposit checks, pay bills, and transfer money from your phone with a top rated APP and when you're done banking, put it back in your pocket, a banking experience built around you and your life. This is banking reimagined get started online anytime. What's in your Wallet Capital One and a member FDIC. So here is the exact quote from Stephen Jones Jerry Son the teams CO chief operating, officer when asked if the team key planned to keep DAK IN DALLAS quote if there's any plans to move on, right are we going to do anything but keep them here? Absolutely not absolutely not he's our future. He special he said this on one zero, five point three, the fan in Dallas Sports radio station going on to say quote if anyone can overcome anything, it'll be back. This is something doctors feel good that he'll overcome and he'll be back better than ever good words but words only matter so much. Yeah but. It's a new injury. He's got a rehab four to six months and I can trust in the doctors in Dallas as well as the physical therapy, their the trainers, the actual football trainers. Because I've been there, I've seen them. They've been there forever. Their work is impeccable. Guys come back from injuries all the time in play well with the cowboys this is a little bit different though right because. It's an ankle he's a mobile quarterback. You've gotTa have that mobility for him to be special. I think he's GonNa come back at one hundred percent. You don't know today with that being said, there's all these hypotheticals that are be out there over the next several months as the cowboys continue to lose football games, they'll be conversations about draft status. Where do you know where are they going to pick? Are they going to pick a top five pick in the top ten? WHO's GonNa be there when they select let's just play hypothetical. Let's play radio and TV minute what if they pick top five What if there's a? Couple of quarterbacks that sitting there in that top five spot that they happen to be in because Andy Dalton didn't do like I thought he was going to do which is helping them get to the playoffs winning division. Now, they're sitting there and there's a trevor Lawrence hanging around with long hair out the back of the helmet. There's a field who is very dynamic. There's a tray lance from North Dakota who has a Lotta that saying Dax stuff to win and you're sitting there. And you're saying to yourself from an organizational standpoint. Do we invest two hundred million dollars? Plus into Dak Prescott. Not, really understanding his ankle. Because it's April male. So he hasn't gotten into the OT as we don't. We don't know where he is. We only go off what are doctors telling US Z.. Or? What do we do with that pick? Do we pass on one of these guys or do we try to get a shorter deal with back or do we franchise back then try to get a long term deal done after we see the progress in the summer. With all that being said, we could save ourselves a whole lot of money because we get these quarterbacks on rookie contract for the first four years. In a them. Think it'll cost them. Thirty Ish. Over four years of. GUARANTEED MONEY Opposed to. Would that would demand over four five years? So they start, you start to play that game. Do you pass on what people are saying is a once in a Lifetime Trevor Lawrence or Justin field do you pass on that I mean that that's the question they're going to have to address as this thing continues to move forward and it's great for Steve to come out and say that, yeah, you vote of confidence and yes, he's our guy we love him to death. There's no question about it it. Really starts to matter it's juicy scenario but one ESPN NFL insider Chris Morton says likely won't come to fruition because Dak isn't leaving the METROPLEX. Jerry Jones and Steven Jones. I think they're being honest with people public face day one deck they expect to be their future and I personally as a journalist. If you ask me if he's GonNa play for anybody else other than the cowboys next year I would tell you know and that's Chris Barnes and that's what I would believe too. But I also know things change. That's why you can never say matter of fact, this never going to happen this is because it changes right I mean it just does now you gotta believe in your medical staff, Stephen and Jerry and Jerry junior who will play who kind of head up the personnel department for the cowboys you. have to believe in the doctors you just do because they're not doctors they're telling you four to six months. He's GonNa be fine. He'll get back to form and be itself. We put these screws in these plates in there. It'll be as good as new better than before you have to believe that but what if it's not and the other thing too is you have to think about it from a sobering perspective. Yes it still Jerry Jerry's making the decisions but many of them passed onto Stephen. So for example, when Johnny, Manziel was available to be picked out of Texas am after setting the state on fire and Jerry really wanted him. Either no figures. His son Steven Coo who made those comments about doc we mentioned earlier essentially came in and said, you know what? This is not sexy. This is not a great pick, but we're going to pick this guy's Zack. Martin. He's going to help our offensive line. He's from Notre. Dame. We're not GONNA win the press conference we're not GonNa have highlights all over ESPN and NFL network look at that Pancake Block. It's not as exciting as seeing Johnny runaround making miracles but I do think if you think about who's making the pick yet that Lawrence field scenario is very juic-, but I think the cowboys are looking things a lot differently. Now in the way, they select players especially in the triumvirate that you mentioned what they've always historically though in I've always told people this and you gotta give them credit for no matter who was there coaching? They've always done a good job in the draft selecting players man they've always I don't care if it was bill parcells or it was was Jimmy Johnson and Jerry or if it was way phillips or it was Jason, gear, they've always hit. To a large degree in percentage, wise on the draft picks they just they get that right? So from a young quarterback that obviously could be missing out on a ton of money to this one. Would you pay quarterback I'm gonNA give you a little blind resume here. Guys like the Lebron thirty five or outliers. But if we go back to a thirty, five year old quarterback who's been in decline who hasn't made the playoffs in a couple of years and next year's owed forty, million, nine, hundred, twelve, thousand, five, hundred, forty, plus million, thirty, five missed the playoffs the last two years just from a blind resume before I even tell you who this is. If forty cap money a forty real money, he would count on their books for forty point nine. Okay. So that's a little different but go ahead. Would you be excited to pay a guy with that resume that much money? Probably not no wouldn't. That is Matt Ryan. Since the Super Bowl lost the biggest collapse in Super Bowl history twenty, eight, three over the Patriots they have gone, twenty, four, and thousand, nine, zero, and five for the first time. Since nineteen ninety-seven, they fired their head coach Dan Quinn and their general manager Thomas Dmitrov their owner Arthur blank who I think has been one of the most patient owners in the league especially with Quinn said this when asked about his franchise quarterback I love Matt Much like I love Dan I love Thomas Master. Franchise is leave for us. The great quarterback hope is going to be plotted are plans going forward, but that'd be decision that I won't make. I. Hope He's part of our plans moving forward, but that's a decision we're going to have to make. I. Guess It's not surprising considering the age cap hit the relatives slight decline in play. But I would also say when you look at something like this, the biggest thing I think is You guys have always said if you don't have a quarterback, you don't have anything and we just talked about the risk involved in passing on deck and getting somebody that may be great. But may not if you have a guy like this is it worth riding out? Because at least he's a proven commodity. You're telling me you yank this guy and then who else I'm at the reset button at the reset button with the Atlanta Falcons because it's a new staff on an older quarterback. So you it's a reset button but if guys played until their forties, is it feasible? He turn it over and it's a it's a it's it's a reset button. I don't. Believe no look I like Matt Matt's if I put him around if I took mad and putting on a team that was kind of like A. Ready type team then it works but Atlanta's got a lot of problems. We got a lot of CAP issues. They got the Julio Jones money tied up. He's her I mean they got the the defensive tackle they signed grady. Jarrett they signed him. That's money tied up. So it's a lot of money issues. THAT'S THE ATLANTA? Falcons. Matt Ryan could play he's forty. He's been in Atlanta thirteen fourteen years since being drafted as third pick overall. He's been statistically a little bit on the decline. But when you're bringing in a new general manager of the new head coach, they want to go with who they think fits them long term. Based on his cap number I'm sure if they did something with him whether it's trade him or just outright release him. Is going to accelerate that number of forty goals up to something else. So do you. Owe on Friday, probably going to be top five selections. So do you look at? Trevor Lawrence whose from Georgia do you look at? Justice fields from the area. Do you look at those guys and say, okay, we're reshaping everything. We're doing it from an office standpoint at the quarterback spot. In Two thousand, twenty, two. Because in twenty twenty one, we're gonNA play with Matt. His numbers are probably GonNa drop from a salary cap standpoint. It twenty, twenty, one or twenty, twenty two. So now I can part ways in not have to swallow a big deal because if I do something in twenty one with him, then it's probably a bad situation because of the number. So you may be drafted quarterback for the future that sits tight for year or maybe two, and when the when the owner says what he said which is you know we're certainly look at it and I'm not making the decision because he wants whoever that head coaching general manager comes in to make that decision because that that coach that comes in May, not want to run a system that that's been. Running for the last thirteen years, which essentially is a west coast system whether it's been cow Shanahan or short stint with Steve Sarkisian Dirk cutter that that's been what they have done. This new coach comes in May not want to do it. It's fair enough. It'll be really interesting. It's hard to think about the Atlanta Falcons without a Matt Ryan and it's hard to believe that you know that's fascinating believe. He's been there like fourteen years drafted or no seven out of Boston College and you look at you simply say had they won the super bowl everything would be different. especially if you bring a franchise their first Super Bowl, you got a lot of rope a lot of latitude but they couldn't hold on and it has cost amidror off it's cost and it may may cost Matt Ryan. Obviously, he'll look. On but somebody else we want to mention morass asking on the Dr Pepper twitter feed this morning this is right up keys alley who's more likely to be on the Lakers mount. Rushmore the all time list of four Anthony Davis or Lebron James who might be able to sneak their way on their stockman these to you want to give an early vote before everybody can cast their? No I'm just saying it. For me for you, it's going to be a D. because Lebron's Michael Play long enough. Play long enough with the Lakers ad we're hoping obedient another ten years plus so be a part of keyshawn Jay Williams, Zubin nation on the Dr Pepper twitter feed ESPN nation presented by Dr Pepper. It's official college football is back and so is your favorite Dr Pepper Loving College Football Town Fans Ville head to a store near you to treat your Inter College football fan to an ice cold twenty ounce Dr, pepper today and reminder if you. Can hit us up at key J. Enzi Key J. N. Enzi. We will recite your tweets at seven fifteen eastern on whether it's the king or the king to be. It's really unbelievable that a guy that wasn't even on the braves postseason roster a year ago provided the biggest hit of all to knockout keys dodgers in game. One Austin Riley. TAKING CENTER STAGE IN WE TAKE CENTER STAGE WITH AUTO. Peres he joins US ON THE SHELL PENNZOIL Line thirteen year MLB that we're going to get to some poignant news surrounding Eddie and his family, and just a little bit as baseball lost another legend. It's been a tough couple of months for Major League Baseball but Eddie let's start on the positive note. The braves are team that nobody is talking about yet. They were perfect against Cincinnati Miami start against the dodgers. What does impressed you the most about this under the radar Atlanta squad. For, floor garage and I'm. To be straight up with the pitching I mean there's no hiding it just how good the young pitching has been and setting the tone match freed in that number one spot with the Anderson following him and then walk or doing what he did against. The MARLINS question marks. There was question mark saw during the trade deadline of why had they not gone? After another starter of veteran guys but would have been less Lynn. Now, let's let's realize one thing that there are no days off in any of these playoff games in the in the in the wild card to the the two out of three three out of five in division series, and now in the lcs no days off that plays big into the depth. Of the pitching. So the starting pitching has to come through the hack who at least be able to throw six innings of solid baseball. So you don't have to play mix and match, and you don't use up all of those big arms that you have in the pan and because of it Max freed gave the Atlanta braves an opportunity to give the bottom art. Then to will Smith and then to mark milan-san and able able to shut down and really good offense of the dodgers. But without the starting pitching the Atlanta braves are would be here and that starting pitching homegrown and it is young and wow, it looks like it can be sustainable not only throughout this playoff series before all for a while they're in Atlanta allergy. Charges has a team pretty much on a roll right now. One quick thing. Eddie from your colleague Buster only who apparently has joined us on the Shell Pennzoil performance and he called me off the air with this particular stabbed before key has a question about Dave. Roberts and the other dugout this post-season for the Atlanta Braves? Fifty eight innings played. Two home runs allowed if that doesn't give you the number and accentuate how good their pitching has been is Eddie said nothing will buster checking in on the Shell Pennzoil performance the pitching pitching obviously got us. We only have four hits we had eleven caves. On our bats last night, which we can't afford to have if we agree where Were in the line of the do. Stockman. Start dating. Start that now. I was I think I'm bad at six I. I'm trying to remember what skipper had me yet but She stole. So watching a game I thought you correct me if I'm wrong. Walker Buehler was doing a fabulous job, but I think he got up to about one hundred pitches in five innings and we decided to go to. A little earlier you mentioned six with these starters you want to try to get into the sixth inning. We snatched him in five. He only gave up three hits and one was the big homer. Obvious. Going to want to lead the week coated pen too early. No you did not Let's not. Let's not realize a lot. Forget that you're during the postseason play it only takes. Four innings. after he the blister situation even during the work even during the warm ups, he was warming up with bandaids on his fingers to make sure that he did not aggravate it obviously because of the rules are not able to picture bandaids, August figures that comes off, and now you just pray that the blister hold on. Hold on you look at it still has had to walk problem ended up walking five guys striking out seven during those five innings The dodgers felt in a high leverage situation that they should start the any next six with bussard Grad or all who a lot of people thought. Maybe this is the guy that's GonNa throw the night. But Dave Robertson in a tie game at that in a situation where where the game was close in. There decided to go with greater all to keep the game close Ben came may who most likely will start? Maybe gain four he got comes in throws in any two-thirds leaves the base load until Victor Gonzales comes in and does a great third of an inning to get off trying to colder percent on a strikeout the talk part was blake trying. They have an issue in the bullpen we've talked we've talked about it's no secret. What are they going to do with Kevin Janson and we found out yesterday that trying is going to be there guy to come in the ninth inning because he keeps the ball in the yard how funny is that? That? Assume that accused the ball in the yard someone from the Atlanta Brazen his name is Austin Riley's comes in and hits the probably the biggest. Of his life. And he hits you in the building for the Atlanta braves put him up to two one. Hey, Eddie, we have just one minute left and I wanted to briefly ask you your father, the legendary Tony Perez played on the big red machine with Pete Rose Johnny Bench Concepcion Geronimo managed by Sparky, Anderson and all of you in the big red machine family the dominant reds teams from the seventy s mourning the loss of Joe Morgan yesterday the legendary second basement. What did your father say about playing with Joe Morgan? tour toward I've already known all my life. I mean Joe is Joe First of all I lost an uncle yesterday I lost a lost You know those are all my uncles I grew up in that clubhouse I grew up in subsidies. They were the ones that disciplined me when my dad and my mom went around and I was running around the clubhouse loose was all the other kids griffey junior junior, and all We lost a big time family member he was he was he was the spark that the team needed after Pete rose got on. Base, you was the guy that you didn't need a fine for that. Sparky the Anderson because they knew that he was dynamic. He played his game. He was a smart guy on the basis. He was a power hitter. He was a great glove also defensively second base. He could do it all. He was the best all around second basement of all time and forget about the size of the heart was even bigger. Wow I. Love. It figured if more than literal the intangibles in the heart of Joe Morgan, heart? And soul that big red machine. Thank you so much Eddie. Well let's not. They will took the day off Chile right now no longer no one. He's been. He's been covering the NBA last several nights. So he needed he needed a break. I. Hear You. Thanks. So this year. Thank you I'm Ben Cleanup tonight this year baseball has lost Tom seaver Lou Brock. Bob Gibson the chairman of the board Whitey Ford and Joe. Morgan. You have a very quick. Story About Joe Morgan, you spend some time with him about twenty years ago. No, it was. It was fun. I have a chance to to meet JOEL DOWN IN HOUSTON. I was on a panel actually was espn panel of Racing Sports with President Clinton Myself Joe Morgan Jim Brown Jackie joyner-kersee feel like John Thompson was there and so we just Kinda. Just you know Bob Lee was the. Moderator would have an opportunity to meet a guy that you grew up watching this impressive. Look it up. April Fourteenth Ninety Eight. 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Hour 1: Mookie To LA

"Good morning it is time to get up with a blockbuster. One team is now a clear cut favorite another seems to a flat give enough. We've got you covered covered right off. The top plus tack is finally angry. Wait until you hear what he's now ready to do that. Almost no other quarterback has ever done before and Zaylon on head to head with the freak. The numbers don't look good. The white is Jay will think it was a great night for the young star answers to those and other questions as we get up with. You started right now as you can see great hoops tons of football. But I begin by telling you this. It was one hundred years ago this baseball off season. The Boston Red Sox made a trade their fans hated. They sent a fellow by the name of Babe Ruth to the Yankees last night a blockbuster baseball trade and the Red Sox fans not happy happy with this. Either bats is dodger part of a three team trade. That also includes wait for it. David price who had three years and ninety eighty six million dollars left on his contract. Mookie Bats and David price both the dodgers as part of a team deal according to our Jeff Passan and the athletic attic. The full trade looks like this. The dodgers get pets. They get price they get cash in Boston. Gets Alex Redo go from the dodgers and pitching prospect for Minnesota the twins get Kanta Mehta data from the the dodgers in a separate move. The dodgers also moved Peterson to the angel will this result in the blue winning their first world series and over thirty years. That's the question for the answer bringing mark to share with much more on the deal. All right this happens last night tax. What was your initial reaction? Well this is a bold move move by. The dodgers dodgers tired of coming up short in October. The last three years have been heartbreaking for dodgers fans and give the front office and ownership credit. They went out out and got their guy they missed out on Garrett Cole soft season they go out and get mookie betts who was a top five player in baseball. And let's not sleep on David Price. David price has shown that he you can win big games in October. This is an incredible move the dodgers and it puts them at the top of the NASALLY. And one thing I saw in your notes that I love you to share is that those guys are going going to like it. The pressure involved in playing in Boston and is such a pressure cooker going onto L. A.. Even with the expectations being what they are should actually work in their favor. It should I expect both these guys to actually play better in La. And that's nothing against Boston but Boston is a tough place to play. especially you have bad weather early in the season reason. You're very tough fans you're playing against the Yankees and the rays which are really tough division opponents. They're going to go into the L. West and they're going to dominate that division in in seventy two degree weather every single day with great fans you know the La lifestyle. I think bets and price are both GonNa Thrive so Yankees dodgers is the most common world series matchup in the history of the sport. They've met eleven times and right now. They clearly feel like prohibitive favorites. Let's talk about the Red Sox. What does this deal say about them? Moving moving forward well. The fans obviously don't like this but that being said I think the Red Sox really looked at the Yankees and the raise and said you know what we're the third best team in this division with Mookie Betts and David Price so let me take sixty million dollars off the payroll. Let me get a little bit of financial flexibility for the future and let me rebuild and I know fans don't like this but listen two thousand eighteen. The Red Sox went all in they went out and got price a few years earlier they went out and got jd Martinez artnews. They traded for Chris Sayle. They made their moves. They spent a whole bunch of money. It got the Red Sox and their fans a world series in twenty eighteen fans. Enjoy that one. It's going going to be a few more years. I text outstanding insight as always thank you my man and we'll see you again soon again. A blockbuster trade in Major League baseball well many of you were sleeping last night. Meanwhile to to the NFL we go with no long term contract. Incite the Dallas cowboys in their quarterback. Dak Prescott are heading straight toward the situation in which the team will have to use its franchise tag on him. This according to all of that reporting for shefty over the weekend at this point he says the franchise tag looks inevitable. Even though neither side wants the come into play and yesterday for the first time stack fest got showed some indications that he is becoming frustrated with you said quote. I don't think any of that's necessary. That's business. That's all calculated. That's all on them. You would hope when you would think something is going to get done right. I mean you would have thought something would have gotten done before last season. He's a question you may be asking is. Is there any precedent for this and the situation. Is there really isn't about a guy. He's talking now part of the comments that he made yesterday. Bob I'll start with you. We was talking about not working out with the team this off season. Sort of staying away a little bit. Not necessarily going full Zeke and Kabo yet but that seems to be. Maybe the next logical step here and quarterbacks generally don't do that you say generally I was struggling to find any example of any quarterback not a rookie holding out who had just been drafted but an established veteran quarterback who hasn't getting paid. Who is going to try to enact leverage like other players do other positions and saying you know what I'm not gonNA show up during the off season program and what makes it more difficult for the cowboys is the fact that they're breaking in a new coach of new system? And be part of what you pay your quarterbacks for his leadership ship in so you need them. They're working in. If they use the franchise tag on back. That means they don't have a franchise tag us on Amari Cooper. It's out. There has been a considerably better quarterback so I mean the system won't change that much but I do understand the leadership point. Being there with a new coach is important because the team is GonNa fall all the coach but the team already believes entrust deck if deck is there to show that he believes entrust McCarthy that helps the team move forward but what they've done to this point like frankly. I don't know how you can categorize garage it as anything other than disrespectful. He's played under market value and performed well above that every year and he's gotten better and better and better to the point where they had the second best offense in the League league mostly on his athleticism his arm. Not On. Zeke Elliott not necessarily on that opens lines and those things are getting worse than a defense was frankly associates and big moment. So Dacca's done everything. The thing that you can ask the player to do to get paid so I always think Jerry Jones is very conscious of the the entertainment equality in the show that is professional football. So maybe he's dragging this out also to add to the suspense but if it gets to the point where they offer him a franchise tag. If I were him I would say you. Don't sign it in the pressure's only gone up. The stakes have heightened since he's made this public public comment. It would be almost embarrassing to make this comment. And then they offer your franchise tag and he goes ahead and signs it and shows up given up whatever leverage you think you might have had always signed it. I don't know I don't think he's GonNa show up in the old saying the nice guys finish last nice guys get their deal last. That's the reality Zeke and pushed and said I'm going to get this done. I need to that. Didn't do that because the quarterback we look at in a much different white with the expectations lower. What they're supposed? If you know deck it just would be shocking for him to actually actually sit out. I mean the guy that look. He needs to get his money. And I think that's a big part of this. But he's a guy that doesn't do this he's a guy he's a leader he's all that and it actually surprised me. That came out even said this but need to listen to what you guys are saying. It makes me think he should have said this sooner. Maybe I think you're absolutely right but desperate times times. Come call for desperate measures and I think we're at that point with him work. He's done all the right things and they haven't rewarded him in the way that he deserves. I think it's time for him to put his foot down and say you you pay me or I'm not showing up until I let me put this in the form of a question. They don't ask. He made a statement on the air. The other day that I really like it's it's an old adage that I really liked. Your actions speaks so loudly. I can no longer hear the words that you say the cowboys keep saying Dak is their future and they love him as their quarterback their actions just suggest the opposite. Is this an and indication and your mind either of you guys or any of the three of you candidly that the cowboys actually have some question about whether Dak is their long term and if they do have question then they don't deserve to hold that organization anymore like what could what more could you ask for a quarterback to do in the modern. NFL then that up until this point like if there's a question about it something's something's wrong. You can't win with this quarterback. Something's wrong with you. Not something's wrong with him and they're acting are speaking quite loudly and they've been pretty disrespectful so far. I guess historical context of the actions and Jerry Jones May Troy Aikman the highest paid quarterback at the time. He did the same thing for Tony. Romo a little bit of this is posturing. They're dragging this out because Jerry when they do pay them and it's going to be the largest I just guaranteed some in NFL history. I believe then they'll be able to talk about it but he's just dragging this out and it's a little bit of posturing back and forth and Jerry Jones. He loves the deal he loves to sit. Yeah I mean I understand your point posturing I think it's more about entertainment than posturing Jerry wants to drag this out. Jerry wants US talking about Jerry in the cowboys on the TV everyday but I do you think they're going to get the deal done because there's no reason not to and actually if you're talking about cap considerations like to actually have more cats do a long term deal because you can amortize the bonus over the Labor for the contract so it's actually less onerous in some cases to do their long-term deal then it would be the sign of a franchise to continue to talk about Dak and that potential deal but let's get to Tom Brady because his his future promises to be at the center of the football conversation this off season as he prepares inter free agency for the first time. And you know we're GONNA probably see a lot of this. Julian Edelman took to twitter with his best recruiting pitch. He used Loyd dollars strategy from the movie state. Anything I love it. Actually Nice Photoshop there as well Okay what first of all what do we think about Julian. Edelman doing this and saying baby come back in. Obviously he's doing everything he can to try to get involved in the conversation here and get Brady back to the Patriots Hatred. I mean I don't think the tweet was intense intention for tweet. Wasn't to get braided. Comeback Tweet was to make us all laugh and have a good time but I think he absolutely should be begging. Tom Brady to come come back because he has not really known life without Tom Brady. And he's a guy who people suggest might be a hall of fame caliber player because of the place that he's made in big games and that I can large part is because time radio so absolutely baby baby baby. Please please come back Julia. Adamant I begging. Oh you see great. Receivers become real average average quarterbacks. Enjoy that I think is really good. Receiver I think he's right because he's been Tom Brady and they put him in positions to be able to make big plays always on big stages and the reality. Is Tom like you look at the Patriots and what they can offer him they can offer them one thing that nobody else can even touch. And that's the greatest coach in. NFL history. He doesn't he doesn't but for a guy who during the entirety of his career has prioritized winning. I can't believe that that's something that's going to let me get chef. Yes I am told Adam. Schefter is ready to roll with us this morning. Our insider extraordinary and there he is shefty. Pick it up for us here when last we were with you you were correctly telling us pay no attention engine and Tom Brady social media posts that set the world on fire last week. It's going to be part of a commercial and of course it was now. Julian Edelman is going all blood. dopplers say anything on us. Ah where do we stand as far as Tom Brady on this morning. Well what's amazing about that to me is that we're in the first week in February and we have players his teammates. Mejia's close friends openly campaigning. To keep them as if even an issue like. When did this happen that they have to beg and plead? Tom Brady to come back. And that shows you how real the issue is about whether or not he'll be back now let me say this. Also the team and Tom Brady have not had any contract discussions it just yet. I would expect this to heat up and become an issue in the coming weeks year well before March begins because New England is not going to go into the free agent week week which begins on March sixteenth. FRISIA officially kicks off on March eighteenth at Wednesday without having clarity about what it's going to do at the quarterback position musician I guess at some point in the next couple of weeks. They'll sit down with Tom Brady and they'll get an answer. We'll see if they could figure it out make joining I'm going to happy. Make the people in Foxborough happy. Be Trying to get Tom Brady back or whether he's determined to go to the market test that out see what's out there. See the teams that are interested. I think Tom Brady. He's talked about being open minded before and I think he's excited about the possibility here of being recruited about seeing the other organizations work about seeing the other other side they'd been locked in this long term relationship for a long period of time and it just seems on the surface if you got Julia settlement and other people begging and pleading for Tom Brady it. Come back that he'd like to go out and sort of see what's out there on the other side and that seems to be where we're at today as we wait for the conversations between the two sides leads to commence here in the near future to figure out whether or not they can salvage and continue their relationship together. Schefter reported over the weekend on Super Bowl Sunday that the raiders are one of the teams that will be interested if indeed Brady does make it all the way to free agency and so you're obviously talking to basically everyone about this. Do you get a sense that people people around the League genuinely believed that Brady is available that he is determined to take it all the way to free agency this general skepticism. That they'll get him to leave New England that eventually he'll do that because people have seen them together for so long. It's hard to imagine them apart not a couple but I think that again there also the people out there who say that if this is going on the way it has then they're clearly has to be some smoke here and look all you have to do is compare and contrast it to the situation in New Orleans drew brees drew brees has openly. Come out and said I'm going to respond with New Orleans or I'm not playing anywhere else. We haven't heard statements like that. Ah from Tom Brady. And that's his right like he gets to do what he wants. Paradin of his career. I think people are skeptical. Ultimately that you will wind wind up leaving New England. But I think everybody's got their eyes on the situation there waiting to see how it's resolved and I think there are people preparing. I know there are teams preparing that if it doesn't work out in New England that they'll be ready to make their best pitch to Tom. Brady you're going to stick around with us all morning long here. There's a lot more on the NFL play. That will get to with you. But let's get you to the game of the night the clash cache of the two stars. You Got Jaanus. The Greek freak against Zairean who's the free and J. L.. Let's take a close look. Pelicans and blocks and how about John Zion in the early going yes. Seventy nine percent of the touches. He gets either scores rebounds ask another prime example right there and he would go again. Is there like they're moving and look at Zion on here. Awesome is there. That's what happens with the seven. Three Wingspan no way. He's going to be able to get that shot over the athleticism in length of Young so Zion had three point went to one for five from the floor and voted by honest in the first half. Now we're going. The other way and visit was spectacular. Art This would have gone down the next thirty the athletic ability this this is why this kid has special even though he missed it still and was there for the pushback. Pelicans of the three point halftime lead but then second have all yawn as look at him in the lane wind. Where would you ever refer to John Mouse in the house? But that's what that situation was now bucks a four point lead and then also finding his teammates. Look at the nice dish to Wesley Ashley Matthews. How about the past mid air? You're going to see it on the replay. What with one hand? What a fine? I bought a ten point lead. And they're not looking back. Pelicans down nine nine and he would go Lonzo. No jaanus hold on our website right out of his hand. That's a snack. Resign right there. I mean look. Janas is very talented aww league. MVP BUTTS ION is stronger. Physically look at Brook Lopez reacting. I don't believe in the fourth quarter. It's all milwaukee. Wesley Matthews. Three ball corner pocket Janas finishes with thirty four points. Seventeen rebounds bucks. A winner was was one of those nights where I couldn't get my second jump layup too far especially as sometimes When I feel like I can go do my forty five minutes verdict layup a up her dog in? I'm like thirty thirty five so it is frustrating. But I never wanted to see excuses They play great defense discolored from putting out of guys. A lot of different looks to him. I was guarding him. brueges guarding Robinson's guarding pad was guarding. Him just I guess go big. Go play for years to come and just got to stay healthy and You'RE GONNA have a bright future but to the numbers would suggest this was a rough night. Zion attempted fifteen laps may just five of those thirty three percent on those shots worth by any player in a game this year with at least fifteen of the attempt. Yes he wants a shooting five of nineteen from the floor. But it'd be bringing Matt Barnes in with us as well here which will despite the fact that the numbers were with the numbers were you thought it was a really good night for Zion. Tell tell us what a great night because he showed that he was aggressive and this is the these are the most shots he's taken in his NBA career. He had nine thousand nine shots on a night. Like this. And and you're going against the League's. MVP The honest is a freak. athletically saw seven. Three Wingspan did not back down at all that he was aggressive. And this is the next level maturity wise you want to see the evolution John for him to become a super superstar. Initially I love the attempts. I love the aggressiveness. I walk into the great job all night. If they're Lopez twins and youngest of keeping their body between him in the basket I think he got a taste of what this is what the top top echelon of the NBA is like and they made them work but like Jay said. I like the fact that he's still took nineteen eighteen shots. He played thirty one minutes. And just understand. It's going to be a game by game process to continue to get better and better weather. quaint against the bucks the best team magic. While by the way who were having a store season could be one of three teams in NBA. History to get seventy wins. That's how good this team is. How `Bout just this Zion back and forth? We'll get to see for hopefully many years to come. I think it's going to be great. Just because both these guys are different athletically and Signif- back Zeile wants to challenge him plus. TV is going to make his game bigger than what it always is this. We're GONNA see about this is GonNa be fun. I think he masses. He was intimidated. Distrust in alternate I think the weak side Milwaukee kept his second jump rebound from being effective. Because they're so athletic able to tip the ball away Wayne normal he gets maybe two or three of those game to get himself going so they just did a good job of like. I said walling up on them. But it's a learning experience and it's GonNa be a blast for the next ten to twelve years to watch. Okay did you see this video video. Surfacing yesterday of Ford Kevin Durant running at the nets facilities the first time he was seen working out since rupturing Achilles of course in game five of the twenty one thousand nine the NBA finals. You See J. What can you tell us about? Katie's Rehab Right now. I've seen other videos of him working out. I think that he looks really good. I still do not Kevin Durant is gonNA come back this season at all. I think the focus is on next year with Kyrie Irving still think. He's a little bit ahead of schedule is still challenging the come back from an Achilles injury but we are talking talking about one of the best. NBA players of all time. He's six NBA players in NBA history to average twenty seven points over the span of his career. Incredible item on my podcast a few weeks ago and he said he's starting to feel better. He's not gonNA play this season but it's just a work in progress. She's excited to be able to get back out there and finding a chance to work but I think this is obviously a long term play for the nets you know what the hardest part of all of this they. Will you know on so well Maggie do as well watch the hardest part of this for him as he works his way and just having to watch you know he's a competitor. He wants to get out and play a sour taste in his mouth. He lost in the finals. He left golden instate. He's got a new team in mill. excuse me in Brooklyn so I just think the fact now starting to feel better but he still not able to play it. Probably GonNa be hard part. I think there's nowhere that channel the frustration. I'm from not being able to play a lot of players. You get a chance to do that on the court. The court becomes your safe haven so right now it's going to be a lot of pent-up aggression for Katie. But that's what we're going to be paying attention into next year. Watch out for twitter. That guy should have five six years at being one of the top three of four players in the league in front of him. Can you tell him not to even consider coming back this year. He listens to you. Know he's fine. He's he's he. He rushed back last time also happening. No Circumstances Fisher that guy be considering coming back. Let them come back. It'd be the best player in the League next year. All right as we continue to come back he says the bengals are taking job. 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James Harden one rebound shy of a triple double but Austin rivers believes it would have been his checkout rivers reaction when you realize its own when Austin rivers has a player option next year every rebound counts off. The bad guys are aware of that right if he's aware obviously he's out. I think at the time when the rebound down he knew. But I mean James Harder order if you want to worry about your now fifth seed in the West five minutes other any scenarios it would cincinnati would trade the way the number one picture patrick after homes give the chiefs of discount at Baker. Mayfield really a new man answers to those and other questions get up. Your home is important. That's why gyco helps make it easy to save on Homeowner's insurance because home is more than just a place. 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Your team isn't so bad anymore. I want to draft him. If I'm the bengals goes yeah but if I if the dolphins are gonNA offer me three first rounders or some team is going to offer two first rounders this year and another next year I have to strongly consider it for the good of the team. Let's bring this out here and again. I've got Adam. Schefter was with us. Live this morning to shefty right now is shefty there. Okay great shefty. You told us a few weeks ago. Put put it on the bottom line. Joe Borough Number One to Cincinnati. Has Anything changed. No listen to bengals plan to take him at number one again. It'll be up to some team to try to change their mind but the way it was told to me the plan is to go. Full speed ahead. Take Joe Borough if you're the bengals and you're looking for a quarterback like this you've got a guy who's girlfriend the lives in Cincinnati who basically is the number one prospect niche draft at this particular moment in time you could secure the future of your franchise for years to come Ouaga Waga Trade. That for any number of I six. Why would some team you wanted to do that? The conversation came up in Miami as it were standing with by a couple of NFL owners and they both looked and and they should not happening jobs. Going on I said glad to see that you with me on this all right. The man who doesn't need confirmation getting it from from from the people who can offer it so so let's just talk for a minute if you're the bengals they have a history. A lot of people aren't all that excited about the notion of going there so attracting free agents maybe not so easy etc.. If the dolphins were bowl them over with offer why would you. I mean you take it if they bowl you over with the offer because that position is unpredictable as much as we want to pretend unlike we know we've seen like Future Hall Fisher College Hall of famers get an NFL fail and we've seen guys who weren't that great in college getting NFL and succeed so if you can get get more bites at the apple you can get enough first round picks. I think it's smarter to take the deal then not to teach as point. He's right when you get good players. You're going to have a good team however when you don't don't spend enough money on your scouting department when you don't build up your facility enough to attract free agents. You're going to be less likely to get good player. Offer to the bengals would have to be other worldly it seems like for this to even be something they would consider. You did some research on when this happened other times when these picks have been traded and how it works out looking at some of the more prominent ones titans you'll given giving up the number one. Pick in the rams going getting jared Goff everybody a Derrick Henry out of that Jack Conklin a number you'll have stores and they just able to get you know three four five picks in the top top two rounds. And when you do that your hit rate is going to increase simply because it's almost a fifty fifty proposition with some of these guys and it's not all that different than the Rg three trade. which was a similar situation situation to remind everyone of that circumstance? The titans that year had just taken Marcus Mariota the year before and I remember saying at the time the best situation relation to be in in the NFL is to have the number one pick in a year. There's a quarterback everyone wants and not need a quarterback. That's the situation. Tennessee was the difference. Here is the bengals. Do need a quarterback way back when there's a lot of things in life you never say you would do and then all of a sudden people start talking and the compensation starts to rise up all of a sudden you become a little bit. More negotiable talk to me that threshold is three first round picks because when you get them and especially if one of them is a higher first-round pick tour. The band was dropped down. And let's say it's the Miami Dolphins and and they're sitting there number five we can potentially get to their plan for a season and then we have a couple of other guys that we can continue to fill in patch these holes and they still have andy under one more year of course of a contract so it would be smart to do that but I do. Understand isn't agree with all. The risk on quarterbacks is so high and there's so much lower and other positions so if you go with chase young or somebody like I bet I feel like it's almost guaranteed that he's going to be an effective high end player. Maybe pro bowl maybe hall of fame. Future play which. It can't be said for quarterback who while he he had the best passing season that we've ever seen in college. He's had one good season of college and he started for more than one year. So there's still high variance for success for a guy like that. You think back to guy like Tim. Tout's fantastic college quarterback then he gets an NFL. It doesn't work out. Yeah let me give you the last word because again. I'm still trying to just make this fun some way and continuing to tell me that there's just no way it's GonNa Happen so I'll ask you a separate question from the people that you've talked to and we're still early in the process and the medical is going to be a big part of this. How close those two people consider tango as a prospect being to Joe? Borough agreed if you didn't hurt his hip I think he very likely would have been the number one pick but there is a medical question mark there and I think people feel fairly comfortable about it but again. There's no clarity. He's GonNa get a check up about a month. We should get some more answers at that point. I I know that every team that serious about tool will put them through an extensive medical tests and then get an idea and looked Joel Boz. Looks like he's going to be great. And if a quarterback in looks like he's going to be granted full quarterback in some teams have different tastes. Well she were he wants going to is going to be a top five six. Pick in this draft without question in my mind and we'll see how the medical medical shakeout but look Joe Borough bigger number one. I believe to Cincinnati other teams can try to make their pitch again. I heard did an owner at the Super Bowl. Whose team would be in the market? I think to move up. Listen to other people. Tell him he's got no chance to go. They love it just remind people we will get an update probably onto as medical situation. Next week. They're going to reevaluate that. Hit for another evaluation that should but at least allow him to start to do some rehab. It's more athletic based all right. Let's talk about the Super Bowl winners. The Kansas City chiefs for the first time in fifty years the chiefs are champions of the football world called the chiefs. Kingdom Champions Parade and Victory Rally will take place today in downtown Kansas City. That's going to be a lot of fun. And according to our friends at Caesar's sportsbook in Kansas City is the favourite for repeat parade next season that they won currently ten. Kansas City has the best odds to win the championship next year at six to one followed closely lead by Baltimore in San Francisco. Seven to one and nine to one so when you talk about how they could potentially win again. A lot of the conversation is how do they keep keep this roster together. How does this continue to work? And then that takes you to. How much money should Patrick Mahomes? Make shefty. Who is still with us? And we'll get back to him has said they should just right him a blank check or give him a blank check let him write it all in. What is your thought on this team together and the money? I'm absolutely agree with Schefter. And I think that Patrick mahomes value value like in supersedes his value as a quarterback to the Kansas City chiefs because he is such a talented player and he's on his way to being such a popular player that his existence impacts the value of the League. The value of the teen deals can sell so I think that he should get tons of money maybe the NFL League office. You put together a separate package to him because he is getting to that Lebron James Status however in my agent. We talked about this. My Football Asian. Brian mcclair call me and yelled at me because I made an argument for why he should take less money. I don't think you should take less money. Because I think he's good enough to win super bowls with less talent around him however if you could guarantee that he wins two more super bowls I think he should take ten million a year because he would. He wins three super bowls. He goes down as the best quarterback in NFL history and the amount of money and prestige that he gets from being that place is so much more than and making a short term investment leaving money on a tape so the reality is yeah. He's worth forty fifty million dollars. Maybe a couple hundred league overall honestly they support how good he. It's absolutely is that the question he asked himself like you said is how good do you want to be. And I look at the third. The third and fifteen that he was able to convert the game and it was an unbelievable play but he also tyreek hill running down the face of the safety dominate. He would have been spending circles. I he's wide open. He's wide open. He's able to complete that and he throws off his back foot and he throws throws it out there. Because there's no one around so good as he is. He still needs help. But we said some of these same things about Russell Wilson at the time when he got that massive deal and you know what eventually eventually these pieces begin to get peeled off and Sulu Jonas's put on you that you can still get into the playoffs and maybe he can still carry them. But it's not near as easy shut. Shut Down I want to ask you a question. The Ice Love Schefter. Yes yesterday sitting in here Dan Glaviano and made the point that it may not be who've either side the chiefs or Mahomes to do a new deal this off season. What is the sense you get about? How eager either side is to get that new deal done? Well I think they both would like to get done personally again. You've got a situation where players players always WANNA get guaranteed money and I think the longer Patrick mahomes waits the more he's going to make but what's the difference to be signed now. This off season deal was five years two hundred plus million dollars. Why would you put that off if you can especially coming off a year which he dislocated his kneecap when you reminded of those injuries? You don't WanNa take chances when you're talking about that the money and if you're the chiefs and get Patrick mahomes locked in before there's a new. CBA before the salary cap spikes up logged. You not want to do that so I know Clark Hunt came out last week and said that yes. It is a priority but he sees something happening within the next twelve to fifteen months ago. I think it's in the best interest of both sides to do who deal today after the parade if they want literally sit down and get the door but they're not agree that they're gonNA slow play this. I would be surprised. Frankly if if Patrick mahomes went to training camp in July without a new contract I don't see how that happens from either standpoint but we've along off season to determine how that plays out we we still have a new. CBA come in. And I remember from Negotiations Clark Hunt of all the plutocrats that was their Clark Hunt was one of the sharpest smartest ones and I think he's smart enough to see this opportunity but I think in negotiations the point I was making about Patrick being more valuable to the league as a whole like they should consider having some sort of payment outside I of the cap for a player like Patrick Mahomes. Because we're all talking about maybe. His team gets worse if they pay him too much. That's bad for the chiefs but that's bad for everybody. If we can point where the team is not good enough to get Patrick. Mahomes at a playoff that's costing everybody money so they need to figure out a way to set it up so that their best players making money is not bad for the final L. Product. Because that's how it is right now. We celebrate rookie. QUARTERBACK's make it to the playoffs or quarterbacks on rookie deals and make it to the playoffs. You know it's a lot more. Fun is one of the best quarterbacks in the place eh a different discussion that we will get to because there are some interesting ways. They could go about doing it if they wanted to. Meantime as we continue Baker Mayfield admitted on our show. Last week he put what is foot in his mouth often last year. You'll hear what Odell Beckham thinks and why the browns need that swagger. Here's a life hack. You won't find any PODCAST. The fuel you put in your engine matters Shell v Power Nitro plus helps keep your engine running like new because it's engineered with four levels of defense pro- against drunk where corrosion and friction so be sure to subscribe to Shell's most advanced fuel ever you've thought and Indians continuously you Shell v Power Nitro plus premium guests We're back and Baker Mayfield. Sophomore season in Cleveland was defined. By a lot of disappointment. The browns won. Just six games and Mayfield through twenty one interceptions. He was alive guest on our show Friday in Miami he addressed twenty nineteen is performance. Both on and off the field this is beyond us. I put my foot in my mouth a lot this past year and I'm going to internalize that and I think that's the way I need the handle. I mean recipes Kobe. That's the way he did. He motivated himself. He didn't talk a lot. I talked to his teammates. Drove them to be better. People better men and so. That's the way I need to handle. It didn't respond to things that don't matter the things that don't help us win not replying to you telling you that brab matter but just doing my job and doing what really matters being a quarterback. There's a really good interview and I think a lot of really impressed. Odell Beckham Junior teammates said the thing thing is people. Don't get to where they're at not being who they were to get here. I don't believe in fixing anybody improving. Somebody is definitely more the word that I would say. I think myself as well how to slice of humble-pie this year because I was hurt all year so I don't think there's really changing anybody but I definitely think you'll see more focused improved version of himself not what someone else wants him to begin myself as well next year. You guys were there for the interview on Friday and took it in but weren't involved in the conversation. What did you think of me? I love what Odell said. I was saddened frankly. I like after the Baker interview. We all got together like man. Baker really gets it in. Everyone was so happy. I didn't say anything because at the moment I was like no I like the older. Oh Baby I was so disappointed that the season didn't go well for him because he was different and he was being himself and he's not going to be a new person. Those right he's going to be the same person he's just going to be like the rest of quarterbacks and not say the stuff that we love and I love when he was saying that stuff and I'm not sure if he was taking a shot there and rex or not but I hope he was. I hope he keeps a little bit of that old Baker inside of him going. That's always going to be there that personality that he has the Bravado his passion is always gonNA come out but it reminds me a little bit back when Tony Romo took over in Dallas. Awesome two thousand six like his style of play the personality the Free Willy Nature that he had like those things are never gonNa go away but bill parsoes talked him and said okay. This is how we gotta gotTA tighten it up. We're the starting quarterback now and these are the expectations that are placed upon you so instead of a completely reinventing yourself. It's a little bit of Polish Niki. I rock I understand that but there is nothing. No one can tell me how this makes your team better or worse how talking to the media how talking trash Rex Ryan how being ostentatious in in general holidays makes your team any worse. It makes the game more entertaining. It gives us more characters more fun I like the bigger and I hope that he plays well enough in the first few games the he comes out firing and talking trash until I miss them. Here's the reality is. We always want these guys to be honest. We want to see their personality for all of the words though when they show it to me we shred them. We save face. Here's what I'll say. Now I wanNA bring shefty on. This thought is well. Is that we in the conversation we talked about. There's a difference between change and evolving evolving. But does it change in evolution. A very it doesn't mean he's going to become a different human being but perhaps you will evolve a little bit into something if you felt. This wasn't working shefty. What did you take away from all of it? I think he's going to be smarter in the things he says. I think there are certain things look. He wants to fire up his team and he wants them to be at their best but there are certain issues that he got involved in last last year that he'd be best off not getting involved in this year and beyond. I think the one with do Johnson with the browns are having a contract issue. Johnson and one player should never speak on another another man's business publicly. If he wants to have awards about that he's got feelings he'd like to express he always go to Duke. Johnson he doesn't have to save that probably he doesn't have to view all his viewpoints in the media every time he's asked and I think for what he went through last year he'll be smarter about what he says. This year I also think that they he was placed in a position position that was really not reasonable and a lot of the people who made these decisions were fired but based upon the total absence of another person with NFL credibility ability. He became the leader. And it's all well and good to have that personality but when that personality is sort of speaking for the whole organization. I think that's where you start having the problems problems if there was a veteran presence. The coach of that team was someone who'd been around forever as opposed to someone that had been the running backs coach a year before I think the personality plays differently. Right I mean maybe maybe you're right but we don't want no one ever links that to how that actually becomes a bad thing we just we're not used to it and we don't like it makes us uncomfortable so I liked it. I wish you would have had success. I don't think Freddie Kitchens was necessarily the right person but I would have liked to keep it going and I don't buy into the either the idea that he's evolved. He's just masking like he has an attorney like we wanna on a feel like this is some evolution and I wouldn't necessarily consider evolution because I don't think it's necessarily better but he's just masking his true failing Clinton. It's not going to say the worst thing that happened is Joe. Thomas Retire because he was that veteran presence and then it wasn't an wouldn't have had to be on Baker each and every day to answer all those questions. It's GonNa be interesting to watch. Meanwhile should be interesting to watch tonight. Sportscenter Stephen at seven o'clock eastern time that is presented by mountain dew. Wold will join Stephen for the latest reporting on the eve of the NBA. Trade deadline will evaluate Boston's chances in the eastern conference. It's Sports Stephen. A Smith followed by the magic. And the Celtics tonight on ESPN and the ESPN APP. Hey this is great news news. Football season is not over because the XFL season kicked off this week in many of these Games on ABC and ESPN and among the notable head coaches on the sidelines. We'll be Bob. Stoops suits for the Dallas renegades and Marc Trestman for the Tampa Bay vipers quarterbacking. Bob Stoops renegades is former Oklahoma quarterback Landry Jones he was three and two a starter in the NFL. Cordell Jones the quarterback of the DC defenders and one of the rule changes include a running game clock. That won't stop after incomplete passes or win players. Go out of bounds except inside two minutes of tasks. Let's talk a little more about this. We're so happy to be joined by. XFL Commissioner Oliver. Oliver Lock Oliver. How is this league different from the original? XFL There's nothing that this league has in common with the original XFL. We've focused one hundred percent on really good quality. Football great coaches. You mentioned guys like Bob and Pep Hamilton and Marc Trestman Play we think we've got the best four hundred I'm fifty or so players who aren't under contract to another professional football league so it's all about the quality of the game we're doing this for the love of the game and the quality quality that we'll have come February. The nine kickoff weekend with it will be remarkably different than what we saw back in two thousand and one going to be so much fun to watch how should this league be viewed in relation to the NFL all of her so the NFL's Awesome League We view ourselves really as a complement. Not as competition. We're playing in the spring. It's a time when there is no football buddies in this national depression or national funk because Super Bowl and then then there's no football to watch so we aim to change that we aim to fix that so we're really accomplishment in the National Football League which rule innovations are you most excited to see implemented. Because there's a lot of cool ones here. Well well there are a couple that I really like one. Is The extra point options that coach has you score a touchdown you get six points. We all understand that very traditional but then you have an option to go for one one to go for two or to go for three. They're all plays from scrimmage. Of course one point from the two yard line two point from the five and then three point from the ten. That's it's all about strategy so we as fans love to second guess. Our coach's role Monday morning quarterback. So I think this one is going to be a lot of fun. The other one that I really like is the fact that we've got a twenty five second play clock so contrast that with the forty second play clock in the NFL and that will mean that will have a fast paced UPTEMPO bowl game Just a lot of actions almost as if you're watching a three hour two minute drill because we really think our teams are going to be playing fast. You mentioned some of the big name coaches the players should fans be keeping an eye on the XFL. I'll tell you I'm looking forward to watching a couple of guys car. Dale Jones the quarterback for the DC defenders you know if if he can recapture the magic that he had during that Great Ohio state run a number of years back when they won the national championship. That's pretty cool There are a couple of receivers in Texas. Is One In Houston Sammy coach. That I really like unbelievable talent and then Jazz Ferguson. WHO's a receiver up in Dallas? Another great talented guy. He's playing into a to a both. Those guys are playing very high powered offense June Jones in Houston with the running shoot and of course Bob Stoops Offensive Coordinator in Dallas is Hal. Mummy who's the architect of the air raids. You can imagine how many balls will be in the air when those teams tee it up. I love it. Okay you're the XFL commissioner but you're also Andrew lucked. Dad Add House. He enjoying retirement. Thank you he's join retirement a lot. He and his wife had their first child about three months ago. So He's being a dad and Is He's healthy is very happy in enjoying retirement. I I'm envious of them. Yeah it's good to hear. We obviously miss the play but good to hear that he's happy and doing well. Oh cannot wait for this. XFL season to begin. Thanks so much Oliver luck the XFL commissioner plenty more to come and get up this morning. Dak Prescott in the cowboys seem to be on very different pages right now. Why things might get worse before they get better? That's next your home is important. 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Hour 2: Aaron Rodgers' Return

"The Best of five wnba semifinals tonight sons at one nothing lead in their series against MVP Asia Wilson and the top team today says, they play game to seven eastern. Then with their game postponed yesterday because of inconclusive covert nineteen past they played game one between the links and the storms the action on ESPN two and the ESPN APP meanwhile quickly swag speaking of action. Did you see the introduction for Dion Sanders yesterday is the new head football coach. At Jackson State they brought out the pain and much more swag thing. Was Fire Ma'am prime that new head coach at Jackson, State University. I, spent all my childhood around. ATC. You watching the swag play football in the fact that France. This is coaching at Jackson's thank fire, but it's southern university all day long. No question about it, and that was an introduction for the ages and with that we welcome you back to another hour. Get we come to you live every morning from the seaport district at pier seventeen brought to you by Chase Grazziano was here Jeff and Greg and Swag Goo are there and we're talking about football 'cause it's time to get up with Viva. Las Vegas the slots surprise the saints to wrap up week to what does it mean? We've got one answer. They're not gonNA like in New Orleans today plus Tampa Tom has a secret weapon only isn't really a secret. It could however win the Super Bowl and I'll tell you exactly what it is and then which of these two Alwyn two teams as the Best chance to make the playoffs and which is already finished. You've got questions we've got answers it's time to get up starting right now with the game of the night in Las. Vegas. Get used to saying the LAS, Vegas Raiders opening up their new home a Legion stadium in Vegas and it was carol. Davis, wife of the late great Al Davis who had. The honor of lighting the torch for the first time we were under white second quarter raiders ten but on a third down. Derek Carr and Jones Goerner of the end zone and it's good graders are within three ensuing saints drive. This is a big moment in the game lasted a minute and a half three point lead for New Orleans and they're looking for points. They're not looking for this at drew brees is first interception of the year. It might be the worst nicholas moral with the raiders turned into a field goal. So big swing, and we're tied at seventeen at halftime first possession of the third quarter for the raiders fourth and goal from the want it's Las Vegas. So why not gamble and it pays Darren Wallin all alone in. The, endzone twenty four, seventeen raiders wallet twelve catches one hundred, three yards early fourth quarter same scored thirty to thirty four Derek. Carr? Jalen resort. Oh, my goodness four on the ground that's going to wind up being a fumble it's attributed to carve. But as you take another look, you'll see the ball just goes through the hands of short one way or another saint to their. To, capitalize, go down and scores they're going to tie the game they're going to do nothing of the kind they would have to punt it away on characteristic inability to take advantage of the turnover. Meanwhile, raiders then get it back eight minutes to go in the game third-down. Here's Rishaad this time he's got his hands on it. He's got his toes inside the line and the raiders have a two touchdown lead raiders line for one hundred, sixty yards in his game saints trying to answer four and a half minutes to go. That's Kamara for a touchdown at twenty two touches a hundred seventy, four yards to scores seven point game ensuing drive huge woman third and five two minutes and change apply. Derek Carr growing it up Henry is interfered with by the North tankage. Take another look because it's a huge play in the game you tell me good flag. It's called raiders cashing in on the crucial penalty looking around the clock out a minute seven ago. Daniel Carlson from fifty four yards away and that one will ice it car through for two eighty, two and three touchdowns calls said what the long field all John. GRUDEN's team went the I can't have in Vegas. Great Vibes in our locker room. Everybody, you know to be a part of winning the first game in history last week and win and guess the Great. Team. WHO's I think one fifteen or sixteen to eighteen on the road at home on Monday night football's a great thrill for all of us. Are we totally in sync right now? No we're not. We're not even close to what we are capable of. Not. Even close. My Job's not to have the most areas. Or throw the ball downfield the most or anything like that. Now, my job's help us win jobs help put everybody around me in the best position to succeed. So, if you think that brief sounds a little bit defensive. It might be because he has averaged less than five yards per attempt this season, the fewest by any quarterback through two games since far in two, thousand, nine, five, turned forty, that year breeze. Of course is forty one they're looking to do big things in Orleans this here, and it's only two weeks and you don't want to overreact but so far not so good. My whole football crew was here and Jeff Saturday I will start with you. This is a team thinking championship thoughts do the saints and Their Hall of Fame quarterback look like a championship team right now. Absolutely, not I mean they can't get out of their own way. They don't scare anybody offensively. Mike. Thomas in. There's no explosive plays that are happening. You're seeing drew brees nothing's being challenged vertically. So at defenses just tightened down, it's like a Boa constrictor locking in on some everybody titans in last year drew brees led the League in throws outside the number this year he's dead laugh why? Because the coverage is coming down? I understand. Trying to get Kamara involved in the offense to understand those things. But then on top of all of this Greenie, they're the most penalized team in the NFL. So they're shooting themselves in the foot you can't win games and you Dang Scher Angle win championships. If this is the style of play you're going to go you have to have explosive plays and you gotTa make sure you're taking care your business penalty. Wise. They're not doing either. So swag who we are professional overreact I get that we're two weeks into the season. I get their one and one and they beat Tampa team week one that we expect to do big things this season, but they just don't look right. What are you seeing in the saints in particular on their offense? What we do we can we can slice it however, we want it g drew brees, not playing well and drew brees is the catalyst for this offense and he needs to go ahead and. Deal with the fact that he's going to have to put the ball down Theo, we not talking about hair your drew brees we're talking about winning games and you win games by being able to put the ball downfield in today's NFL. So look the saints winning built this defense and they went and took the secondary lattimore, the noise Jenkins Williams on the back end they brought him Malcolm Brown. We thought that this was going to be the defense that could kind of carry them Cam Jordan up. Front they tried to go get today the a cloudy as well to create a rush. The bottom line is this is about champagne and drew brees scoring points then nobody thank the Saints Defense was GonNa come out here and be world like that. We thought thirty four points would be in the saints gala it twenty four would be in the race column they are having major issues offensively drew brees looks like his velocity is declining on his ball misses throws and so unreal breeze like the throw A. Minute drill. You can't yet. They got major issues g major. And Greg the last couple of years I. Think the conventional wisdom has been that breeze looks as the season goes on as though he loses a little of that velocity and didn't have it in the playoffs. This is to what are you seeing right now from drew. Well velocity isn't what it once was and nor should it be he's forty one years old but I think what I'm most concerned about is least back in the day when we had vintage breeze, it didn't matter about what the coverage was downfield because he was gonNA throw receivers open. I. Can remember so many times watching drew that are being perfect coverage there being soft coverage and yet he's still able to make a completion down the field. Because he can throw a back shoulder faith, he can throw a back shoulder on a corner out. He's not even empty. Those throws right now because I don't think he really trusts himself to execute those throws, but we can point and blame and really attribute all these problems to drew brees and his inability to drive the ball like he wanted. But the reality is you can't average zero yards on first and ten their average second down and and. Yards to go second ten last night they have to keep pudding efficient plays on first and ten because when you're having penalties and you're playing behind the sticks then why would you ever ever threaten the defense? The defense is going to keep it in front of them, rally up and make a play on the football. So the got to be better on first and ten or else it won't matter how much drew brees is age they won't be. Able to push the ball big place. All right. Graziano I WANNA go back to something I said a moment ago we are professional overreact. There's we are two games into a season but I'd like to point out that our colleague meantime last night who you see on nfl live every day here on ESPN did at one point somewhat sheepishly almost because she knows what the reaction is going to be just put the name Janus on her twitter feed. With the suggestion. The Saints signed him. He's there and if there's one thing we know he has its arm strength. So with that sort of as the backdrop, Grazziano, what do you think a reminder that drew brees is backup quarterback is the only quarterback in the league that through for five thousand yards last year, they got Janus Winston to be their new Teddy Bridgewater guy they knew could step in and play and win them games if something happened to drew brees and then maybe rebuilds his career there and gets a contract somewhere else maybe the saints signed him after this year breeze retired, but he's not going to replace drew brees at anytime soon. and. Then this year saints drew brees. Yes forty one years old but look he could have retired three years ago he keeps coming back because he believes this is a super bowl team that keeps getting snake bit somehow in the playoffs and as a game or two away from another championship he and Sean Payton or very close have been for a long time. This isn't a situation where brees has to look over his shoulder at Janus. Wasn't he has to play better obviously and I and he knows that he's wearing a Michael Thomas t shirt. With one, hundred and forty nine for the how many catches Thomas had last year no coincidence he obviously misses him two games in brees has to be better but no, he's not endanger. Okay that's fair. It would. It would seem a little premature for that but we'll keep an eye on where it goes from here. Meanwhile, let's not bury what happened last night to the Vegas Raiders. That's a huge win for them. Jon Gruden who was always comfortable on Monday night football was very comfortable in his post game locker room take a look at this. Those were some good calls that he made last night on and off the field. Good calls here on get up rushing by subway swagger what what this is. What I have to admit I've been covering the sport a really long time haven't seen that. Exactly. A quick quick explanation of what John is doing their. Football man that's that's realize it. It's hard to come by winds but also I'm sure deaf Saturday Greg Back Roy did that League football. Yeah Hype. That brings back that actually looking at clip brought me back to when I played football for the south bedrooms. And we used to do that before the game. Play, peewee football you played early, a coach was trying to get you hype. That's a huge way of Arabia's man is no better way you slice it opening up a new stadium in Las Vegas, a quarterback everybody has these questions about and they went out and ball and beat the New Orleans Saints Thirty four to twenty four they put thirty four points up. They received was went off. That was a huge win for Jon Gruden the Las Vegas Raiders Man. Jeff. Saturday before they play that game of Simon says and Locker Room, they did they put thirty four points on same. What. Do, you see from them that suggests to you. This could be a playoff team in the AFC. Absolutely you started it with the good calls by Jon Gruden. He has this team balanced right you talk about the catalyst in this office Josh Jacobs career is a physical bruising back. They had three offensive linemen banged up out last night didn't matter. They can't run that thing between the tackles and they get outside edge when you. Balance it with what Derek Carr didn't listen. We've all been an apologist for him the last two years ago for four thousand yards the last two years and everybody's talks about he's the weak link he played within that system give Jon Gruden a ton of credit and the first two weeks. He's almost completely balanced with a run to pass ratio yet to be really excited. If you're a raiders stam because when you can stay in phase the way they have, you win a bunch of ball games. They beat a very good football team last night and they beat them beat them in a substantial way. This was not a fluke day they deserve this win. Great, if you Jon Gruden starting quarterback three consecutive seasons, you're really doing something and so their car has managed that. What are you seeing? John Gruden's quarterback for three consecutive games. That's that's pretty good What do you really look at? What I'm amazed by how they spread the football they had eleven different guys catch passes last night, and it was spread out monks different position groups. You had three tight ends yet fullback to running back. So then you have matchup problems like Renfro. GonNa come on I. Think here in the coming weeks I love Brian. Edwards. The rookie out of South Carolina and then on top of it, all man car was really good when facing pressure he was blitzed seventeen times last night by the New Orleans Saints and he had an answer. So he didn't ever at any point appears spooked he looked very comfortable. He knew where to go with the football and he knew were his answers were also is some guys on the outside especially waller who is a match up nightmare against man covered? So I think this offense is going to. Be really exciting as they continue to grow and get comfortable throughout the season. So that is where we to came to an end last night in Las Vegas meanwhile, we have much more to do here coming up. Tom Brady can not get to the super bowl without his secret weapon who by the way is not much of a secret anymore I'll tell you who he is and why these the difference in Tampa plus white too young quarterbacks off the great starts. This season are excelling hint. The success is not a coincidence. You'll hear it coming up watching get up on. ESPN. WHAT DOES SWAG? Who say you know what I say I say Jones is a gangster no hand g look at me. I'm already a bee's so we just going to be beastie call you broke. Yes. You cry. It's not exactly how I meant for this to go take that and smoking. Never. Doesn't amuse me. Here's Marcus Spears where he will interpret the words of others in this edition of Swaggie says, it starts with Doug Peterson coach Philly asked about the regression of quarterback. Carson Wentz here's what he said. In Carson's fifth year in the League and you're working with you why are you seeing this production? Warrants regrets you know it's a good question you know for us it's a matter of continuing to work continuing. You know I think I think coaches and players we continue to strive to get better every single day you know I just don't want Carson to feel like he has to make all the place every single time. That's what he said what a swag who say. Gee now hear me out US stays been there a long time and if I asked state. Pay How is the marriage going with you G if he says That's a good question. y'All get a divorce bro that ain't the way that question you supposed to be high probably about all the things that are going well, and if he says, Jesus has the beginning I, know you're not gene and it's almost That's all of a safe I did that was extremely well. I hope that she calls me g when I get home today I just find that. Funny. Next. Let's go to Seattle seahawks wide receiver. David Moore was asked what it's like playing with Russell Wilson. Here's what he said. What's it like watching them cooks? To. Thanksgiving you get that good meal watching you grandma you any anybody cook kind of like that. You noticed in be something. Good. That's what he said. What is why Gooseneck? Ross about town have other people in the kitchen neck and cook because I didn't answer. The Grandmother, the teeth, the cousin, the system somebody to bring PAB. From down the street. Do all day. Now I finally got some other people that cook a little mcelroy baked macaroni and cheese I got some people that do the Collard Greens I. Got Somebody. is like the big spike can new Thanksgiving vows hand that's what Moore's. Got Blue Cooks in the kitchen you don't have to cook every day I'm citing he just needs to go and his point as well. Play parenthetically I was always bring her I was always I was always. Yeah I'll bring a dessert. I'm bring her. What what do you need me to bring? To okay one more. Let's talk about bucket nears running back Leonard Fournette asked about his relationship with his new quarterbacks probably by the name of Tom Brady? Here's what fornet set. I'm hold on Tom Tom, hold on me. You know you expect allowed me aspect a lot of his as six wool. So aspect I am just that we still figuring each out right now I'm not talking about Tom, but as team tried to get better with it as a unit sixteen round fight, you know we have a lot more to go. lsu Guy. That's what he said. What do you send? Linda. Tom. You better figure it out. I'm the first round draft you got drafted seven I know you're the one all these Super Bowl, a Utah boat and everybody's talking about you coming to me Hugo beat the man I'm the King I was drafted I. was guy that they brought in you because you need a back and throw some take. And run the ball. Physically you better recognize. Get a right Tom Brady. Be Damn trouble rowdy. It's. Important. Saying I'm the King I was dragged the top out by you late round pick man. I actually like that not necessarily with an assessment of Brady and his stature but with the significance of four net and I have been saying this from the day they got him Jeff as you watched the role that Leonard Fournette played in that offense on Sunday what do you think he does for Tampa? physicality between the tackles you're talking about probably the best back in the game in between the tackles, he's averaging nine point, three yards of Kyrie in between the tackles look the big run against Carolina. He sets his blocked up by step into the rice in bins it back in look at all, he gets his high five from the linebacker on the way him. But this is what he does for this offense when you need those three and four yards when Tom Brady's account, take a playoff rest all those weapons on the outside he is your guy and Swaggie said it best he tried to avoid it. This guy is separating himself from the other backs. In. Tampa Bay, because he wants to be the guy, he don't anybody else he wants his mini carries and they'll give him he only to share the load. He wants to take that thing and take Tampa and hoist another trophy for Tom Brady understanding he is vital for that offense. Yes swagger I'll take it a step farther. We've seen aging quarterbacks get carried a championships later in their careers many times before John Elway Peyton manning I'm not exactly Brady has more left than that. I think but I think four nine is the guy to carry him. He's strong I. think he can pick Tom Brady up and carry him over the finish line there in Tampa. No doubt let's look. Let's be reminded. Legare blot was in New England as well. The gear blunt with the Philadelphia big physical runoff with a tremendous amount of talent. You look at first of all plus respect the Linda for fortinet name Linda for net was for. Ahead no quarterback zero nine. Box every he landed up to run the football, and then when Jacksonville release him and he wasn't getting Sam, people had the nerve to talk about where I don't know if Linda fortinet that good. What the Hell you me. In His thirty people. Look at the bottom line is Tom Brady now needs a running game more than ever Linda? For near running against six seven million boxes because of those weapons only facilitates better Tom Brady and Tampa made a great decision by signing I. Think so too I completely agree I have to leave it there. For the moment we're coming back with much more football coming up, they are off to a hot start or Aaron Rogers and his packers the team to beat in the NFC at the question these guys answer it next ghetto on ESPN. National Voter Registration Day is September twenty second for more information visit. I am voter dot. com. Where back on get up and if he didn't see it last night an interesting game on Monday night football I ever game in the new stadium in. Las, Vegas going to pick this up in the fourth quarter raiders leading the Saint by seven Derek Rashard. Excuse me Derek Carr pitching to Jalen Rashard who can handle it. They're going to give the fumble car but clearly, this one's on Rashard in the saints have a chance to capitalize and go down and tie it up and you figure no problem drew brees is clearly going to take advantage of that mistake. But as it turns out, drew brees is. GonNa do no such thing night when that New Orleans offense really struggle they punt it right back and they give the raiders a chance to put the game away and that basically what they another pitch to Rashard, this one handles tiptoeing up the sideline in for the score raiders. This applies ing win thirty four, twenty four opening their new building in style. Last night though look now las. Vegas raiders are two. The saints are struggling a little drew brees, what a great regular season last year. But since the playoff game against Minnesota one and two passing yards away down air yards per attempt or the worst of any quarterback in the NFL. Meanwhile, my insider Dan Grazziano, let's run the hurry up coaches getting fine. For not wearing masks what can you tell me? NFL wants coaches to wear masks on the sidelines. DENVER'S VIC Fangio Seattle Pete Carroll San. Francisco's Kyle Shanahan. All find a one, hundred, thousand dollars and the teams reached fine. Two, hundred, fifty, thousand dollars because those guys weren't wearing masks this weekend and if you watch last night's game, you see Jon? GRUDEN and. Sean taking the only been there like fifty year gripe weren't wearing masks. They can probably expect to get a a fine as well. League is taking it seriously panthers running back. Christian McCaffrey out four to six. What can you tell us? He has a sprained ankle. He's GonNa push to get back as quickly as possible. The panthers are bracing to be without their superstar. Running back for at least one month it's a it's a huge blow for a team run everything through McCaffrey. Never missed a game before in his career and obviously he believes he can come back on the quicker side of that. So that's a devastating blow for a team that maybe we didn't expect much fun. Then there were the forty niners lose everybody what what are we hearing? Nick Boatswain Solomon Thomas to stars on their defensive line that defense align. That was so important to their success last year both out for the season ACL's Jimmy Garoppolo the quarterback has a sprained. Ankle. Hill Practices Week. They'll see how he moves around on that possible. He could play Sunday but no sure thing forty niners set with the turf at Metlife stadium their game against the jets gm John Lynch actually spoke to someone of the League office yesterday about the League and. The players Union are looking into it figuring out if they can if there's something issue with the turf, because the niners are right back there this Sunday to play the giants and Kyle Shanahan said yesterday he wants to make sure his players are comfortable going back out there for whatever it's worth. It wasn't the first game that had been played played. Monday night football last week, the steelers and giants. They weren't any obvious problems then meanwhile if you've been with us all. Summer we talk so much about all these offseason storylines. Let's see how they're playing out so far first off Cam. Newton, replace Tom Brady and so far. It looks like the Campbell accounting for five touchdowns while Brady starting to warm up in Tampa, he's throwing for three the Vikings and Texans both traded away their top receivers and both find themselves. Owen to on the flip side with Stefan Digs and De'andre Hopkins on their team, the bills and cardinals are a combined foreign. And then the story for the packers, of course, Aaron Rodgers is time in Green Bay is closing down with him drafting as replacement will rogers so far is having none of it throwing for six touchdowns helping the offense score eighty-five points through these games. So I WANNA, start there, Jeff Saturday as we watch them play a team that looked like it was already looking to turn the page towards its future is Green Bay right now the best team in the NFC Jeff. Yeah. Absolutely they're in their listen think about Aaron. Rodgers Week. One he wins the game right goes to Minnesota. It'd be a bruising game. Nah. He does touch those at all over the yard come back this week. Now it's Aaron Joan not only does he lead the team in rushing? He leaves it in receptions as well, and here's when you know Aaron Rodgers comfortable when you had Air Jones are running back lined up against a corner. second fifteen, he still throws it Aaron Jones trust in the match up, he goes up makes a sick cat to convert but this is a type accompanist. Aaron Rodgers hasn't his arm and his ability and it's showing he is playing with a chip on his shoulder. This team is playing for him like I said last week he is shown not only the packers organization Jordan love the relax because everybody needs to relax this guy's gonna be in Green Bay for a minute he's playing great football down the packers have to MVP candidates and they both have the same first name with Aaron Rodgers and Aaron Jones both playing. Great but greg. I've had people tell me they think that Rogers looks the best he has looked in several years. What do you see as you're watching them? I just love how he's plan. Now you've got to take the. So we've talked a lot the off-season storylines, they didn't give them a whole lot help well I. Think Belda scanning Elma Lazard have done a pretty good job we've referenced obviously Jeff Just did how well they're running the football but they've had a lot of drops they've seven drops only seventy four at. So that's an area where we'd love to see them pick it up on the good side they're protecting your it's been hit only four times the fewest in the NFL and I think that's something to really excited about as he continues to progress but man he's been accurate. Is pushed the ball down the field is getting the ball up and down the velocity seems as though it's slightly better than it was at times last year. So man he obviously is focused and that's the other thing to the guys angry and he's showing everybody that he can still get it done at as high level as anybody in the NFL. So very encouraging sites from green. Bay To that point. Maybe this is swagger the scorched earth tour we've been looking for they've won two games in the division they beat Minnesota and Detroit, what are we looking at their swagger? I'm I'm looking at my paper trying to figure out what an ordinary hill. Seattle decided not to play football. NFC. Team. What we doing Anyway. Play Great. That's not the question you asked me air rodgers play a great but you and I g have told people air Rogers was go play. Great. Yeah Rogers actually. Tins purposes based on all these quarterback Gurus. Now, I'm not into the footwork in the hips and being able to use the right subject off. He threw for four thousand yards. I know he'd been four picks and twenty six touchdowns. Last year I know they were in the NFC championship Aaron Rodgers door would a-rod does does now air rod is playing to the level of being one of the best effort that's the conversation difference now Aaron Rodgers was just a top T. is even a top five guy last year possibly now he's playing like the one now he's playing like the guy that we thought. Pre Patrick mahomes was going to supersede everybody that had ever played this position. But I WANNA. Go back 'cause. Year Jeff don't believe that because you didn't answer they convinced convincingly I. Love you Saturday but every time you sure about something, there's a different tone demeanor. You believe Green. Bay was the best team in the NFC I know that. Jeff who's the best team in the NFC? I don't think that the best. seahawks. Yeah. He's he said it. So we'll play. Ball DFM there's no doubt I WANNA put Green Bay in the conversation. So I was easy on green question I didn't. WanNa ask a question the day Russell Wilson is playing the best football of anybody in the League and it stands apart the talent they be tube obviously when New England this past weekend that the quality of opponent beaten versus Green Bay is as much better. But listen don't take anything away like I said, don't take anything away from the packers leflore for for what for all the bad that I've said about him about not drafter receivers he. jedi mind trick. I don't know what it is, but he's got his squad. They feel pretty confident what they can do and when you could protect the quarterback and like we just said, well, you protected like Greg said, this team could do some damage with Aaron Rodgers. Now. This is clear by the way I appreciate the consideration I will not take offence if you answered to one of my questions under any circumstance. We're all good with that. Meanwhile, let's get up and go through some of the other NFL. Oh, college football in this case headlines from yesterday Lsu as pickets replacement for Joe Borough he is is back up last year junior miles Brennan who will get the start. Saturday. Against Mississippi state coach Eto says, Brennan's arm strength might be better than boroughs meanwhile at Alabama has expected. Mack Jones will be the starting quarterback when the Crimson tide open Saturday at Missouri he started four games last year after two got hurt Jones beat out five star prospect bryce young meanwhile game two Stanley Cup finals, and with. The lightning holding off the Dallas Stars with two crucial power play goals in a three two win series. Now tied one game apiece they will play game three tomorrow night and news from Nascar driver Denny Hamlin and Michael, Jordan announced yesterday that they will feel the single car team for next year's Nascar Cup series and the driver will be bubba Wallace who announced he was leaving Richard Petty motorsports earlier this year Godman up no one expected Matt Ryan Carson Wentz the Shawn Watson and Kirk cousins to be where they are but they're all a win to which one makes the playoffs don't mind out. It's a new day on ESPN radio with new voices that have big things to say t John G, willing to. Build a winning coulter, the Dan Lebatardshow, which do guys like the Einstein of life. Ridiculously good. was that the Max Kellerman show why not get out in front of it? Building Junior. Destined for greatness all day every day big names, new voices and it's time the royal talk weekdays on Espn Radio Espn News and smart speakers everywhere. Back on get up with winners and losers from week to Greg who is your week to winner? Aaron Rodgers and he is playing right now at a level we haven't seen in quite some time. He leads the NFL in. QBR, and by the way is off of line and is running game is starting to really get going a little bit to make this passing attack very balanced. He's playing some of the best football we've seen in years and I think the best is yet to come here in the coming weeks for the Green Bay packers I'll talk to that Guy Aaron Jones on my radio show later today meanwhile, Jeff. Saturday. Who is your week to winner? Tyler Murray listen. He's a winner because he got the Hopkins in the off season. Now you're looking at this offense just absolutely exploded this guy in the MVP conversation you're watching the teams with his legs big teams with his arms. You name it Kyla Murray is winning at all level. No question about it and to Shawn Watson right now has to be watching that with a very, very sad look on his face meanwhile Dan Glaviano, Gimme a week to loser. V Bad guy I'm going with the New York giants Saquon Barkley injury is significant for them in the short term and the long term think about Barclay, in his third season next off seasons when they have to make the fifth year option decision on him and yes, it sounds obvious. But this is a guy who's going to have missed seventeen games over two seasons by the time that decision happens a lot about the giants futures thrown into question with this that's a mess and then finally swag loser loser. Carson. wentz. May Co Carson has to get it together listen first half against the watch the football team looked amazing. second-half throws picks, let them in the game, and then against the rams untimely picks missing passes trying to do too much super. He wrote it's already starting to filter up in Philly D Carson wentz better be very careful playing. This way jalen hurts was drafted in the second round no question now they're getting restless no question about that meanwhile as. We speak of losers I put a poll question yesterday on my twitter page at ESPN Greenie. It's still up there. You can cast your vote of these Owen two teams, all of whom had pretty significant expectations which one would you bet we'll still make the playoffs Vikings Texans Falcons Eagles, you cast your vote on my twitter page at ESPN. Greedy. These guys will cast their vote right now marcus I will start with you which of these teams still makes the playoffs. I'm taking the Atlanta Falcons g because I think they can put up points in the drills and looking at the NFC south where I thought the Saints Tampa handle have a hold on this division I don't think as clear anymore. Atlanta obviously gave up a huge lead, but they were being a good Dallas cowboys team ain't no way on the. Game, and then against the outer weak one, they made some plays offensively steel put some points on the fourth they have to get some things corrected. But between Julio Jones Calvin, Ridley pay nurse met RUN NEWS USA speak this office to get rolling them to make some plays defensively. I'm taking the Falcons. Yeah. They started badly last year as well, and then got super hot but it was too little too. Late who's next Jeff gave me the playoff team of into who's making the playoffs. Young going Falcons as well and swag. You said it best when you when you look at the roster of the Atlanta Falcons, this team is poised to do some things again, they played the best team in the NFC right now, which is the seahawks they lost that one. No shame in that when they gave the Dallas game away and those are the errors that game. Should have never even gotten to the onside kick. But if it does those are the type of things you can't you can't beat your cells. That's what the Falcons are. Do they fixed those heirs and they make it back to the playoffs so far on a little surprise Grazziano, which of these teams makes the playoffs you guys are right about the falcons being able to score. points, but they can't stop anyone I'm going with the Houston Texans were. This is a team that's one that's division four out of the last five years. It's a coach and quarterback that have come back from really rough starts to the season in recent years and look who have they played. They played the chiefs in the Ravens those teams any good I mean there's absolutely no. Chance that there's another two game stretch on Houston schedule. That's even close to his tough this low they do have. Pittsburgh. This week getting it all out of the way early. But I'm of these four I think Houston given the track record and given the quality of the of the quarterback I think is the all right and finally Greg, which of these teams make the playoffs. I'm going Houston regrets I look at it the quarterback naturally Shawn. Watson who has done it in the past and I really believe he could still elevate this team and they can get things going like he alluded to grass. I mean what kind of team starts with the two best teams in the AFC? Maybe even the three best teams in the AFC take into account having to play Pittsburgh this week. So ask this question again next week. They might be Owen three and I might go out to Vegas put a little wager on them to make the playoffs because it Owen Three I. still their chances, they're divisions not impossible. Think Tennessee might come back to Earth Tannehill specially might come back to Earth a little bit. So I think it's a potential spot where they could really get going get in the groove and make some noise down the stretch. Well, let me go back to. Vegas, you take that. Jeff. Let me go back to the eagles. I'm a little surprised no-one said them. They're one crazy onside kick the other day away from being in a division where the cowboys are also to Dallas play Seattle, this weekend Philadelphia Place Cincinnati by the end of this coming weekend the eagles have a very good chance of being tied for the lead in a division that some team might win it seven and nine. So I I'm just based upon the division alone swagger I'm surprised. No one's looking at the eagles. G. Also, Washington football team like look we can cut it up as much as we want to not only did they lose a divisional opponent? Course winces playing terrible man like we have to. The fact that this is a quarterback driven Lee and we all understand that he can get it going. There's a possibility of him playing lights out. We've seen them moments in those flashes but as of right now, the Philadelphia Eagles, to me doesn't look like a team that's even equipped to make the playoffs. They are still struggling on offense a bland play Carson Winston. Elite level, and then you look at the game that they've already lost they lost to arguably. Between the giants and watch the football team the worst team in their own division and I believe is going to get better. Dallas is going to get a stride after this Atlanta Falcons comeback I'm telling you watch out for the cowboys in CA's bag may be that may be. Quick Final Thought Y- about the ego the with wince winces seeing ghost, right so when you have a quarterback gets throwing poorly in clean pockets. Fifteen or twenty, five point and he still can't complete passes. That's your concern when his is continue to drop down and look at the offense of wine instead of where the ball needs to go. That's tough to overcome. I don't care what division your in this thing is in his head and when Doug Peterson, your coat isn't going when he's asking the same question I don't know what's wrong with them. That should be concerned for your entire football team to have them come back and win the division that's going to be a tough sell and less which really flips the script and comes back to end of last season. Let me take a look at where the poll stands right now cause last they check we had a lot of votes on this thing. Let's see where they stand right now I keep these open through the radio show in the afternoon forty, three percent riding with the Texan rising variety with Graziano and greg this morning forty, three percent they are only sixteen percent are on board with the Falcons keep those votes coming. Okay. 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The smartest way to hire back on get up and my question to you is who has a better season in two thousand twenty. Tom Brady's new team or his old team. I've opole on my twitter feed at ESPN Greenie. And I have an hour left for it to be open and as you can see right now almost sixty two percent of the vote is going towards his new team. The buccaneers you can log onto twitter again. It's at Espn Green and we'll update that as we continue. We'll give you the final results. I said it to finish right at the end of our show and we are in a very busy time in the world of sports and delighted that you've chosen to get up with us here. We're going to bring you all of the News as best we possibly can always live from. Above now Heineken River Decade Pier. Seventeen and this is the menu for our second hour today. It's time to get up with Tampa. Tom Brady to the bucks are they. Now the team to beat in the NFC. That answer may surprise you. Plus the panthers they say. Hello and goodbye to big name. Quarterbacks on the same day did they make the right choice in. Where does Cam Newton go from here? Then who won the biggest winners and losers a free agency? So far spoiler alert. The very biggest winner is actually very big all that and more as we get up with US starting right now and only one place to begin. Tom Brady appears on his way to Tampa Bay. Shefty Jeff Darlington reporting last night. The bucks expected to land the six time Super Bowl champ to this point is no signing. Dake no official announcement has been set up but it appears to be a formality and it is all on its way in fact shefty. Listen Tab you quickly clear all of that up. I saw your tweet from this morning. Just for those who are just joining us here. What is the very latest? As far as getting that deal finalized. We'll Greenie here's where the two sides are. They're still continuing to finalize. The language in that contract is not expected to be any sort of issue or any sort of hang up but until they finalize that language and Tom Brady can't make the announcement that he is expected to. Which is that he is going to be a Tampa Bay buccaneer. But nothing's going to stop that. This is a process that has been in motion really since the negotiating period. Open on Monday at noon. Where Tampa stepped out front media media contact with Tom Brady and began preparations to try to get him in there. And I think Tom Brady has been mulling his options for weeks. Now he knew the day would becoming. We're yesterday. He made the official announcement that he was moving on from the New England patriots going his own way and taking his talents elsewhere and again. I think everybody could see this coming. It's still hard to wrap your mind around the fact that somebody who's been such a fixture in Foxborough for twenty years is one six super bowls and four super bowl. Mvp's in three NFL MVP's and has done all that he has would actually leave a place that he is so closely associated to but he found a place in Tampa with a head coach. That is brought out the best in quarterbacks like Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck and Ben Rothlisberger and Carson Palmer that being Bruce Arians the buccaneers head coach and obviously the buccaneers have a stable of offensive weapons including wide receiver Mike Evans and Wide Receiver Cris Goblin and when you just look at it as you pointed out Greenie. This was a competitive team last year. That lost seven gains by less than one score and in those seven games. I believe James Winston had eighteen turnovers so I think the buccaneers figure that if Tom Brady came basically control the game manage the football not turnover football and play like Tom Brady frankly than the buccaneers could be on their way back to the playoffs for the first time since two thousand seven which would end the second longest playoff drought in all football. Now we mentioned Jeff. Garcia was their starting quarterback last time they played in a playoff game. Jaren WANNA come to you because both you guys have been telling us on this show and saying elsewhere that this was what you expected to happen. What we didn't really know exactly how the process would unfold. Jeff what do we know now about exactly how. The process unfolded for Brady. But we can start with. Tom Brady several weeks ago in fact months ago to be honest when he started casting a very wide net to sort of survey the NFL landscape. He could do that without actually getting to the point where he needed to talk to teams all along. Though I'd been being told that it was going to be a situation where it would be clear and concise. It wasn't going to be a Peyton. Manning Lake Free Agency tour And that's exactly the way it unfolded. Meanwhile on the other side of things the Tampa Bay Bucks in mid-february we're one of the few teams to actually recognize through back channels. That breeding was serious about entering free agency. Something that a lot of teams were kind of. Just say he'll go back to New England probably just trying to leverage some other people. The bucks looked at it and said wait a second. We have the makeup. We have the ingredients. We have basically everything. That's right to offer Tom Brady. They recognize he was serious and then this week they were ready to pounce and that is how marriage shaked out that both you guys were one hundred percent right on. This thing's GonNa beginning. Well done thank you both and we will certainly stay close because it's a busy day even with Brady News here the new league. You're actually starts this afternoon. And meanwhile the folks are excited in Tampa and for good reason as of twenty four hours ago. The buccaneers odds to win the whole thing with forty to one now with brady come into town they practically dropped in half twenty two to one and I would also remind everyone. No team has ever won the super in their own city. This year the Super Bowl will be hosted by Tampa. And so here are guys in our lives and Marcus Spears and I think the most important thing we can talk about here. Dan particularly for those just joining us is the specific fit. Because while Bruce. Arians is known to be a guy who works well with quarterbacks the offense we have typically seen from him is not the one that Tom Brady is not similar in any way to what Tom Brady has done. That made him the greatest quarterback of all time. What do you expect the offense to look like? Next year this would be scheme. Wise in outstanding fit for Tom Brady. I wanted to spill some rumors about Bruce Arians as they play caller and coach. First of all this is not going to be Bruce. Arians acting like June Jones where they're just going to put five offensive linemen in front of Tom Brady. It's going to be chuck and duck situation. Something that Bruce Arians really likes to do is hard ball. Play Action Pass. What I mean by that is Down Hill. But what we see out of the forty niners. Vikings words that wide stretch stuff. It's going to be downhill play action pass and then intermediate routes ten fifteen twenty. Art throws which Tom. Brady's arm is plenty strong enough to still operate now. That's also something that Tom Brady's really started to do a bunch back end of his career. In New England was the hardball plaques and stuff had a great level of comfort with it. So this is not going to be offense that we do see. Tom Brady dropping back seven steps and getting hit thirty times a game going. I told you so Bruce. Arians is going to sit down figure out what Brady really likes to what he doesn't like to do and understand. Okay I'M GONNA put him in a tons of positions to play successful football also. This offensive line is going to be helped out as well. Marcus Spears touchdown and mark is you've talked about. Brady's going to get the ball out of his hands really well. Something James doesn't do and so this scheme wise is a really really good fit country. What some people think for Tom? Brady and Bruce. Arians guys who I go. I think when you look at everything for me. This is the psychology part of it. When you talk about Bruce Arians let's go back a couple of years when Bruce Arians left football after having a successful run to Arizona cardinals and then got back in the football. Could it could it come to any better of a didn't get Tom Brady and Tampa and have the ability to win your division and possibly go to a super bowl with the greatest quarterback of all time I think about this whole maturation process that both we're talking about Brady New England? Obviously the relationship with him wanting to test free agency. Both of these guys have a lot of stock in the game. That's why I one hundred percent agree with what Dan just said. The working relationship between moves areas and Tom Brady where they are in their careers. Could be one of the most beautiful things and we've seen an the NFL and a long-time couple with the talent and also can't help but talk about the other side of the football. This reminds me so much of what pay men and experience where he went to Denver. It was demarcus ware. Von Miller is JP and Shag bearish. It's a young middle. I'm back in different white secondary that can play. This team can be dominated. They were a quarterback away for making great decisions for for having a chance to win the division and might I remind people before we start is going to be difficult. The sites are going to be good. Sean Payton drew brees but before we start going there. Let's remember Kirk. Cousins went to New Orleans and beat the saints in the playoffs. And now you tell me you go get me. Tom Brady with Mike. It's an N. O. J. Howard and Camry listen this. This is a this is crazy. I was off the chargers but the more and more I think about it the more I talk about this filling sample could not get any better for Bruce Arians into Brady man. This is a match made in heaven for sure I agree. Hey very quickly. Dan and we'll have more time to talk about this. But if Bill Belichick were to call you today and I will grant you. It's unlikely but if he were to call you and say hey. What do you think I should do with quarterback going forward? What would you tell you pick up the phone? Call Chris Ballard in Indianapolis and try to get you. Kobe percent back to come into comeback to New England. That's your best option. I think gorby percent as a starting quarterback in the NFL. And I think you can get them for a good price right. Now out of indy. Yeah that feels like an interesting choice. How about you swag Google. The Patriots going forward without. Tom Brady first time in a generation. They need a quarterback watch their best bet for the sake of different. I think you'd call Andy Dalton. Trust if you can get into Cincinnati there by the draft. The quarterback Joe Borough first overall ended on his property. They're looking for a fresh start. Been around as legal all the time and they had some success and don't be a play there. Too terrific is thank. You both stay close. We have much more football to get to this hour continues but as you are most likely aware there was another huge story that was indirectly from the world of sports yesterday. And obviously with what? We're all dealing with Kevin. Durant is one of four Brooklyn Nets players who have tested positive for the corona virus. They net said that one of the four players is exhibiting symptoms. The other three are symptomatic. Rant told the athletic that he is feeling fine and urged people to be careful and here is our friend Jay Williams it was very close with Kevin Durant as well. What was your reaction j? Will when you heard that K. D. tested positive for the corona virus draining. I find out loud while I was doing a podcast yesterday and Monday afternoon. Late afternoon. Myself K. D. and rich were on the phone discussing what our content strategy was going to be and what Kevin stances were in different things. But we're actually going to talk about as far as breakdown players. And he felt fine. He seemed find everything was okay. He was back in New York City. Everything was great and same with rich and myself so as you can imagine. Yesterday everybody was just pretty much shocked at the news and everybody kind of went their own different ways. I would say rich worried about his family. Kevin worried about himself and we all have gotten the chance to get on the phone yet. But I'm just glad that he's OK. I mean this thing is affecting anybody everybody Greenie nobody is immune to this so I'm just glad he's okay but as a two days ago everything was completely fine grigny. Everything was normal as usual and again. He's told the athletic that he is at this point a symptomatically that was yesterday. I just been curious. Jacobs you've talked to so many people around the league and it's a strange time for the NBA to say the very least as they are sitting and waiting to see what happens next. What sorts of conversations are you hearing from? Nba Players and others around the League about the situation right now. Uncertainty greedy guys have no idea what to do. You guys want to go back to the practice facility. They have hopes that they can have a season this year. They want to continue to try and keep their bodies in alignment. But then you. You can't do that because you have lack of resources now. They can still do that on their own. But when you make yourself available to other people trainers basketball trainer staff and company than potentially you can get yourself or you can contract the virus so guys are extremely weary of who they surround themselves with and you know just like everybody else. People are saying quarantined. These guys are staying at home staying with their families very unsure where to go how to train how to work out and everything is just up in limbo right now. I know we have hopes of having an NBA season. But the more and more we continue down this path. My man it does not look like that's going to be the case. Got Wage said earlier today. A lot of owners are looking for some sort of clarity and right now that is just not available. J. Will thank you so much. Stay safe my friend and we will check in with you as we continue. We're just getting rolling in this hour of up a lot of sports news out there now. The Tom Brady is the bucks quarterback what happens to Jameis Winston who should bring him in and will he be a starter will answer those questions and then the Brady News took center stage yesterday but deck still is not got his long-term deal house cowboy nation. Feeling about that. Michael Irvin will join us with that it's on. Espn no one likes to feel stuck especially by your cloud but the IBM cloud is the most open insecure public cloud for business. It can manage all your apps and data anywhere smart. Loves problems. Ibm Let's put smart to work visit. Ibm Dot com slash flexible on a day filled with a lot of football news. Here's fail insider Dan Glaviano who joins US live and Dan? Let's run the hurry up on a bunch of the quarterback stuff out there. And let's start with the panthers giving Cam Newton permission to seek a trade. We saw the. Camden like the optics. What are the latest from the options for Cam Newton? Yeah I have my Greenie on the Los Angeles chargers as a possible destination for Cam Newton. We know that one of the reasons that they moved on from Philip Rivers. They wanted a little more mobility at the quarterback position. They have tyrod Taylor there. They like him but obviously cam. Newton offers mobility the quarterback position in a different way than maybe anyone else ever has curious to see if they actually trade for him or wait until Carolina has to cut them and make a move that yes. None of this has to happen immediately. How about Nick Foles? Nick foles is a trade target Jackson would like to move him and go with Gartner Menu as their starter. The colts were curious about foles prior to signing Philip Rivers. We've heard the bears have some interest. You wonder if he could be in play in a place like Los Angeles or like a New England but he is somebody you can get if you're willing to give him fourteen and a quarter million dollars. Guaranteed next year. Which starts for. You isn't all that bad. And then we get to Jameis Winston. Yeah James Winston He. He needs a home now. I don't think he's going to stay and be Tom. Brady's backup in Tampa Bay but he may have to be someone's backup somewhere. I don't know that that he's going to be the answer. In New England or in Los Angeles it was floated to me essay. Possibility don't rule out the idea of Pittsburgh looking for a backup quarterback with quarterback that may not be there all that much longer so it looked for a situation like that for James Winston. Mainly kind of like Marcus. Mariota took with the raiders. Kind of try and get a backup job with some future potential and rebuild the career from here. Not Pittsburgh is actually an intriguing one if you think about it stay with me. Grassy on. I'm coming back to you a little bit later here on some more brady stuff but I wanNA talk about James for a second because this last season was one for the ages. I mean it was the good bad and the ugly through for over five thousand yards touchdowns but obviously the interceptions thirty picks on the year. The first quarterback ever to have a touchdown thirty interception season celebrity. Might guys back here again. Orlovsky and swag and you both know how I feel about James Winston I'm like the last man dying on this hill. I'm not giving up so I do. I want to hear from you. Ah should someone be bringing Jameis Winston as their starting quarterback no g not as a starter but I think James Wisdom would it will pay dividends for him to sit behind and actually watch the game play out for a year. We talked about the insurmountable talent. That Jameson was the has from new quarterbacks by and we've seen for them being a top five guy at times in his career has limited. The turnovers and I know we lauded the Thirty Day. He's thrown all of those. Were not on him. Obviously like any other quarterback but they go in stat line and eighty eight. I think over the first five years of his career. So the turnovers on the issue for James. The deep ball is not the ability to place the ball where you needed to have an ability to show that can be one of the guys in this league with like. I said flash moments. This new throws five touchdowns and three picks in one game So it was just one of those deals where you can. He ever get it right as far as taking care of the football. Because if he can't he can't be a started in this league that's why Tampa held on so long. That's why other teams wanted to draft James Wisden as the first overall pick coming out of Florida state but as of right now he cannot disband himself from turning the football over. And that is the price you pay when you are starting quarterback in the NFL. You cannot take care of the football man Dan. No-one breaks down this quarterbacks better than you do so I want to try and get a specific as we can. We all see the interceptions. Why does he throw so many picks? What specifically is it that he's doing wrong and is it correctable. The biggest thing is panic. Greenie. He panics in one. Panic sets in for quarterback a lot of times. We have to make decisions faster than we want to. And James doesn't do that. Well if you ask James to play seven on seven football he's GonNa play really good good clean pocket a lot of time to get through progressions and figure out where to throw the football. He'll play it well but that's just unrealistic in the NFL. And when he's forced to have to make quick decisions or decisions that have to be made in that two point five second range which is the average time. A quarterback gets to play dropback football. The ball gets thrown to the wrong place over and over and over again. I would disagree with Marcus I bet you. If you watch the tape you could find twenty more interceptions. That were dropped for Jameis Winston last year. Greenie I remember Gary Kubiak saying this to me a long time ago when I was playing quarterback for him and he pulled me over opt throat pick in practice and he said I need you to understand that you carry. Everybody's every person in this organization is tied to your hands and that's football and so can Jameis. Winston be brought into beer starting quarterback absolutely not because what coach is willing to bet his future his family's future the assistant coaches futures all on the fact that they're going to be the one to get James Winston devalue the football. Bruce Arians is coached hall of fame quarterback and. He couldn't even get to do it. And I want to kind of. Ask Marcus this because if you look at the reality of the impact of a quarterback on the whole football team we've talked about the thirty interceptions last year right. Twenty two of those interceptions resulted in the ball. Starting at two thirty nine yard line or in that means for defense that normally if you give up twenty yards on a drive that you're forcing a punt if you get the ball at the thirty nine yard line defensively and you give up twenty yards automatically given the team points. If you give up forty yards automatically given up a touchdown where normally you would force a team to punt and so it'd be very difficult for head coach to bring Jameson right now. It'd be impossible for head coach to bring James Winston and right now and go to his football team and say we're going to win a lot of games with this this guy because mark is you know as a defense are sitting there going man. We got no shot to play good defense with him. Super-quick Markus and that's why I said made me come in and sit a year and actually watch the game but you make a great point. Dad like this heartening man. You get frustrated and everybody wants to have respect for the quarterback but when you turn the football a lot of eyeballs start going over towards that locker and sometimes you want to fight because today as point. A lot of people get fired when you don't have success in this league and a lot of hinges on a quarterback why everyone is a static. Tom Brady is the quarterback in Tampa right now. And you hear defensive my defensive player's going crazy and loving the. He's the quarterback and everybody tries to shy away from all of those conversations about James to guide because as a defensive player in the league that you get paid based on your success rate when a quarterback is sort of football over. Most of the time you're on the outside looking in for job he's GonNa sit someplace. That idea about. Pittsburgh actually is intriguing. All right stay with me guys. We have much more to do. When news came out that Tom Brady was done in New England. It did not sit well as you might imagine in the region. How bombed his pasta? And you're GONNA hear it next get up on. Espn dark day. Dr Dang I woke up. The smaller giant smile might base only got smaller and smaller as the day went on. I don't even want to see him play for another team but I mean I have no choice. I feel like my wife. Just call me at twenty years of being happy that again today. All the great memories we had together running through my head. Great Game. All the fun that he's all the joy he's brought my life. It's unbelievable I just. I'm shocked. That Begin Brady Kerr. And they're not GONNA win crap. I hope they don't win anything tough day in Boston yesterday. Patriot fans upset for Brady. You should be excited about his new weapons chief among Mike Evans. Who is six five? You see Brady's top targets in his career. Were all under six feet. In general he has actually never completed a pass to a wide receiver with six foot. Five four taller. Let's talk more about this as we bring Dan Graziano back into the conversation. Because there's another receiver out there that people will connect to Brady. He's not that Tall. He's awfully good. And that of course is Antonio Brown. What are you hearing about the possibility? And the buccaneers of course have their share of weapons already with the possibility that Abe and Brady combine in Tampa next year. Greedy file this under something to look out for in the future. Antonio Brown we know still under. Nfl investigation likely to face some kind of suspension. He's fighting with the Patriots and the RAIDERS OVER GRIEVANCES OVER MONEY. He he wants them to pay 'em so we don't know when he'll be back to the NFL. What we do know. Is that he and Tom Brady has stayed in contact. Since the very brief time Antonio Brown played for the Patriots and that they have discussed this is according to people close Antonio Brown. They have discussed the possibility of teaming up again wherever Brady landed now. Of course he landed in a place. Where as you mentioned wide receiver not a crying need. Might have been easier if he'd gone to Miami or someplace like that but just just keep it in the back of your mind as something that if it happened down the road it wouldn't be overly shocking. Lots still has to happen to get Antonio Brown back on the field but if and when he does it's not crazy idea all right tango. Ciano so well done thank you and obviously there's a lot of breaking news out there still to come and we will continue to come to you but right now. I want to bring in our friend the hall of Famer he's now with the NFL network. Of course. And that is Michael. Irvin the legendary Dallas Cowboy. And we've got to cowboys with us now for the price of one. We Marcus Spears ready to go as well and my pleasure. Thank you for doing this during these crazy times and a couple of different things I WANNA get. Let's start with Brady. Their Brady in Tampa. How good you think that team is next year. I think that team is great next year. We're Tom Brady. And what you guys just talked about. I think it explains why he's had such success the way he's you know actually gravitated and trying to beat that helping hand to Antonio Brown. Tom Brady who no matter who he plays with. He gets the best out of them. We've talked about that for years. Now imagine going to Tampa where that great talent Ian and getting the best out of that talent Greenie Swag Goo. I'm telling you that's going to be a beautiful sight for the Tampa Bay buccaneers fans who they have they already have Godwin and Evans should the buccaneers. Try TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET. Antonio Brown there. No they shouldn't G. and that doesn't mean Antonio Brown with shouldn't be back in the league. I just believe that that young talent that Mike just mentioned and Dan talked about earlier along with Cameron. Oj How this thing we talked about remembering Rog retired and I told you this was the biggest impact that the new England patriots will face going forward. Tom Brady has two safety valves. Now he has two tight ends. That can block in the run game. Tempo's a great situation for him. I don't think they need to bring in another piece guy when it's really good. Mike is obviously being a big target that he can go downfield with. I don't think you need to add to that. I know not adding a crazy. Talent like Brown to say not to is like crazy to a lot of people out there but to me. You don't mess this up. Tom Brady has the attention. That era of everybody in Tampa Bay right now. I think you need to leave it. That way Gouda as something that you're discounting here that I you. Tom Brady is not just going to Tampa. He's also trying to show everybody left in Boston that he can win a championship without bill. Belichick and that's going to require all the talent that you could muster up and if Antonio Brown is anywhere available even if not available early in the season but you can get on that team and you can put him in that slot and you can have Godwin in my Devon's out why men listened to it. Tom Brady will have a great chance at doing something in Tampa with that kind of talent around him always remember now is not just about what he's trying to do at. Tampere. It's also about what he's trying to be that he left in Boston. That's fair I want to ask you Michael. What we have here clearly about. What's going on in Dallas? Now as they wind up franchise tagging Dak Prescott. Who has done everything you could ask a person to do since he got there. What is your perspective on? The situation has been handled. And what do you expect to happen? This is this is big business green. And you guys know that. It's always happened like this. Tell people all the time when you get these kind of businessmen to see a billion dollars they have in the billions of dollars that Jerry Jones have usually these kind of deals don't get done until slipper falls off. Cinderella is at the last minute but they usually get done now jerry franchise tag and I know and I tell you I. I know that they've offered that thirty three thirty four million dollars a year. We don't have a clear number on what doctors warning. But I do believe that this thing will get done is not like a kirk cousins because they want that. Prescott here everybody believes that Prescott and he will be a cowboy tried. Who is the tone attorney again stack at some? I feel like everyone supports him and rightly so to this point but if Michael Ascetic we've heard others say it that there is a huge offer on the table that he's not taking will. The tide turned against him at some point. The time may turn for people that look at this business as players supposed to hit succumb to the situations that they're in but as a former player looking guys may maximize your potential contract and doesn't have anything to do with relationship at this point is business so that Prescott and his agents feel like they can get it offers thirty three thirty four and they feel like they can get thirty five or thirty six. You try to get thirty five or thirty six over the over the process of their entire contract and no a Lotta people. I've heard people say he should take less and they they go need money to put in other player's hands. Listen this is something that I've watched when I play. Sure Mike Watch when he play some guys do it and Kudos to them for taking less and doing things we just coming off until Brady taking less than New England if I'm back Prescott I perform well and if I can get thirty five or thirty six. I ain't taking thirty three or thirty four five or thirty six. We knew if we knew now. And I'm which wagon on that that's everybody's personal preference you know if you want to say. Hey I won't take less than a stay. Stay at this place are moving to that place. That's your personal preference. You're doing the business. I would allow you to do that business. But if we knew that that's what that was asking for because they're not they haven't made that to public that if it's thirty five thirty six there we can get on Jerry. Come on Jerry. Close that gap thirty six and thirty four you meet in the middle at thirty five or something. Close the gap but the fact that we haven't really had a solid number on that leaves us only with the numbers that the cowboys are throwing out and I think somehow someway way sometimes at work against the player are and then finally a guy who could argue as good as any receiver in the world. Right now. De'andre Hopkins was traded from Houston to Arizona in a move. That stunned. A lot of people. What did you think of it? Michael Irvin angering it. Stunned Me Green. And I'm GonNa tell you guys you guys you know I gotTa fall with them right after I heard about this trade and I tried to pull it out of him like what happened. What happened here. Man There's no way they give away one of the best receivers in NFL for a ham sandwich like they did and he he kept the high road on these Michael. You're not happy about where I'm going. Where it and that's it. He left it there but of course you know I just I couldn't rest my mind on it. I called them again. Twenty four hours later like late yesterday and then he was willing to talk more and I said tell me what happened in Houston and he went into it. He told me he said Michael I. It was a bit of a power struggle there because bill. O'brien thought coach. O'brien thought he had too much influence over the locker room. He called the Andre Hopkins in a meeting to talk about this and the kind of just hash it out in the meeting. He started the meeting with telling the Andre Hopkins disc that blew my mind would be Andrea. Told me this. He said he told the under Hopkins. He said hey the last time I had to have a meeting like this. It was with Aaron Hernandez I was like. What did he put in Aaron Hernandez in this meeting? He said yes he did. He say Michael that blew my mind and he would even bring that up. I've never been in any trouble. I don't know why would he equate me with Aaron Hernandez and from there? The meeting. Just deteriorated. You know he got into talking about the Andrea Hopkins because the Andre Hopkins has a few kids and and from different different different women and he said you know he told the Andre. He doesn't like that. He has his baby mamas around sometimes and from that I think the relationship just went bad. And thus we got a trade off the Andrea Hopkins from from Houston for basically like. I said earlier a ham sandwich all because of that relationship. Wow markets what are your thoughts. I can't believe what I just heard. I- legit cannot believe what I just heard like. This is the first time I've lost words. G Bill Brand legitimately toll de hop debt. And I believe might. Mike has great relationships with a bunch of these receivers. They look up to one. They confide in him they asked him about playing the position but also navigating through what the NFL and navigating through. But May are you kidding me. Bill O'Brien would do that to the jury Hopkins. He would talk about the mothers of his kids. He would bring up air. Like I've been out on Bill O'Brien and never going to be back in Michael. We thank you very much again. It is important appointment this is. You're telling us this is what the Andre Hopkins told you in a conversation and so obviously we will have to ask him As soon as we can Michael thank you very much again as you said to everyone here stay safe the best of your family and thank you very much for doing this. Thank you guys. Yeah everybody be safe out. Here is in practice oeser distance. Okay God bless everybody the hall of fame and Michael Irvin. Thank you very much as we continue. Collar Murray may have gotten a lot better this week with the acquisition that we're talking about there we will explain that and more as we continue next back on. Get up and to say the first couple of days here this. Nfl off-season period have been busy. Would be an understatement. And as you know. The Texans traded the Andrei Hopkins to the cardinals with six hundred and thirty two catches in his first seven seasons tied with Antonio Brown for second most ever and then kirk cousins and the Vikings a two year sixty six million dollars extension Minnesota then traded Stefan digs to the bills. Four draft picks the cowboys re-sign Amari Cooper to a five year. One hundred million dollar deal. I put the franchise tag on Dak Prescott. Who's won forty games in four years? We'll see where that goes. And then of course yesterday the biggest news of all Tom Brady to the buccaneers. He'll become the first player to change teams after spending twenty seasons with one franchise in NFL history. And all of those are not nearly all that we've seen as we mentioned. Philip rivers is moving to Indianapolis on a one year deal after the news of the panthers are allowing Cam Newton to explore a trade. They signed Teddy Bridgewater three year deal. I know yeah the. Nfl's all time leader in passing touchdowns. Drew brees is staying put in a two year. Deal to stay with the saints and after all of that. The Buffalo Mayor Byron Brown. Had this message for bills fans who might be celebrating the departure of Tom. Brady for those of you that want to celebrate. Tom Brady leaving the New England Patriots and hopefully leaving the AFC east. There are no mass gatherings celebrate responsibly. Celebrate at home and with less than ten people present all right. I've got Dan and Marcus back with me here and let's go quickly here guys. Put the bucks to the side. We understand vague. Tom Brady. That's beyond them. Orlovsky who in your opinion has been the biggest winner so far Kinda Murray. I mean the fact that Carla Murray got de'andre Hopkins to add to that Arsenal. Arizona is a big big deal. Two reasons why Greenie number one Colin Murray loves the throw the football down the field and Deandre Hopkins is one of the best downfield receivers in the NFL because he has such great catch on contact talent meaning. He can go up at high point. Football's even though the DB's won't be draped all over. I'm not a big deal. You're going to add him to Christian Kirk and they're Gerald than another speedgun. Maybe like Andy. Isabella column. Ray was a massive winner at the started free agency and I expect him to be on the shortlist for the off season when it comes to the offensive player in the NFL. Two Thousand Twenty. So I'd go give me another winner. Go Miami man my. I love what I did. Defensively obviously burned Jones Calvin oi coming over from an appropriate. I think they have something cooking over there. Use a free agent wildly using their dollars and obviously stack ended up in the draft. Do they now have the quarterback to compensate for what they ask? What Miami did with this free agent period officially solidifying on the defensive side of the Football Xavien Howard and Byron Jones or two quarterbacks that people are going to have to pay a lot of digital in his upcoming season. Guys now that you can get to the quarterback. I love what they did. And the dolphins have been very busy. And it'll be interesting to see what they wind up doing at quarterback they've been attached to to a ton of I love for a long time. We'll see if they go this. I will leave it there for the moment guys. Thank you and we'll continue in a moment here on get up and when we are done. I it takes over. Tom Brady do the bucks does that make them the team to beat in the NFC? Stephen Max Molly and me. We'll discuss that. I take an eleven minutes right here on ESPN.

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