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Today today enter to win with the new. AC TJ radio family. Mondays download our APP to enter and each week will pick one random name and read it on the air sometime after seven forty five. Am Eastern if you hear your name. You'll have fifteen minutes to call in to eight eight eight four one. Eight T J radio family we've got some goody. Two shoes didn't want to answer the question or played the hypothetical game aim of. How much should sas his boyfriends spend on her? After four months of dating for Christmas Sh- inputted dollar amount on. Okay okay. We get that we know that there are there are people. Don't believe in that sort of thing and SAS doesn't believe in that I want to make that the the most clear she's she's not asking this just a hypothetical I was asking because curious if Because there are women who do judge that sort of thing the type of women women. That's that you know. Make these dating rules for themselves. Like how many official dates you go on before you make the relations. I mean that's adorable. It looks like the answer here is between fifty and one hundred dollars. Some have said one fifty absolute Max but around one hundred dollars a lot of people say fifty bucks but most people are saying somewhere between fifty and one hundred dollars although one guy said less than one hundred dollars dollars no label no real gift if you want if somebody said how after four months have you not decided whether or not your boyfriend or girlfriend girlfriend yet to move to the next step Michael Business we did. Ask them to participate to. Why don't you ask him says about how much to spend on me? No Oh why why. There aren't any labels. Yeah it was actually my decision not to label us because he actually asked if I wanted to be exclusive right Last month so it was kind of up to me. Let's Take a little slow. Yeah okay it seems between fifty and one hundred dollars is is what everybody saying now. Here's a here's an the answer. I think you're gonNA like better than any of the others came in. This is the lady Called Katie and she said my seven year old son just said on SAS. I've seen her instagram. She's really pretty. I'd spend all my tooth fairy money on her all. My Gosh which is about the same that wheel is going to be spending on research. Chuck just melted my heart. That's door so cute. How sweet is that Katie? Gosh I saw her instagram. She's pretty fine. She's like an eight who you learn something. Yeah so here's what I don't understand in these are these are technicalities. I think that come with things and I don't get it. Do you date other people now. Would you go out with another person. If he went out with another person. Would you not want to see him. Many more yes within. Why were you not say we're exclusive? It's Matz Malibu. I friend because when he asked I had a feeling deep down that he was saying seeing other people I know he's not trying to be very careful and say wait. Wait wait wait at a river so I'd rather get my heart broken with. That's it's not dating dating and then get my harper and so at the at the time you're accepting of the fact he's probably dating otherwise. I think the worst every situation you were okay with the fact that he was dating other women. You just didn't use for still wanted to be by any means but deep down thought the worst was happening very very safe and locked in Rye grass but either way is going to crush you. Yeah exactly and and Y'all are exclusive with each other. Yeah so what difference does it make at this point though whether or not you say. That's my little boy from Mullah Boyfriend thank you think he's going to jinx. Does it change things when she say boyfriend. Yeah I really do. Because he said he loves you know okay But he has is thrown out some comments. Like I'm GonNa hear you things like that way in the throes nothing winded. He say that like when you when he said he'd take care of my dog. Real good and real free. No I think I'm Mary. You fast naked funny. This is the TJ show. Good morning no fugitives today outside the building which is a positive note. No text message that hey watch for the for the fugitive aged running from the law. I wondered the building I wondered. Did they catch that. Fugitive in that man hunt yesterday. Was it yesterday. There was a manhunt. Yeah Yeah we don't know if he's still out there we don't i. Don't I know whether he got caught or not. You Know Rob last. We heard he got away from the area though we were Luebbe. What it's worth that was the last update? Yeah okay because I watched the the local news last night and didn't see anything about no. I didn't don't they always return to the scene in the crime though. Isn't that the kind of the deal. I don't think I really holds true through. So we're not the scene of the crime. At least specifically here valid point Ronn though there is no helicopter Coptic looking for the murder. there is a Guy George along the same lines riggins Who was supposed to work Thanksgiving Day to steak and shake and Oakwood Georgia which is about fifty miles north east of Atlanta? But he called and said he couldn't work because he was too drunk to make it in he but he made the mistake of showing later. Rob The place yeah I like a steak and shake. He came back at ten PM. He walked in. He missed his day. Shift showed up at ten o'clock at night with a gun held it to a CO workers head and demanded the money out of the cash register. apparently there were it was full of people because nine one got or they Scott multiple phone calls from people in the store in the place eating a hamburger. ooh Call somebody raise here. Robin the place. I saw him running from the building when they ordered him to drop the gun he raised it at them for a second skin but when they pull their own with his downs wonder why people don't really combined stake in and shakes on a good basis. You know what I mean like a like a fine steakhouse who were you would get a milkshake with with your meal instead of Yeah if you go to Morton's things are capital grill or you know one of those types play types of places. Ruth's Chris and get a shake with your fillet. I I'll have the filet Oskar in Vanilla shake or even can you. Can you get the shot. If I go to the palm could have a wonderful steak dinner the average you know what I'll have the chocolate shake I think some of them do have your may desert type shake. I don't know if they do at the palm but I'm joey avert vert are the palm could would probably get him to hook you up gorge myself so much by then Is there right before we get off the steak and shake thing Just a slight recommendation. Come and get the get the bowl of Chili and grilled cheese and use the grilled cheese to skip the from second-ranked rescued that night. Because you know I'm Asaka stopping will stop anything else. Steak and shake chilly with grilled cheese. It grow Chan that like chocolate. Shake or whatever. Yeah and didn't use the grilled cheese dip the chilly. Oh that sounds. Delicious is the grilled cheese on Texas. Toast ooh ooh holiday drunk because it's opened super late Get it when you draw. We'll go over to del friscos and see if I can be the grilled cheese steak chilli the cave me rather than having fine dining. You're holding up a chilly league over the table with necessarily ask different than we. We had an employee one time on the show We had given away a prize to listeners. Who had won a dinner out with the ace and Tj show at Del friscos find? Steakhouse I mean this is a really really fancy upscale place And the employees ask for the surf and turf lobster Fillet Surfin Turf. And they said well sir. We're not really doing that because we had a set menu kind of thing. You know how you'll do. But there was steak filet the whole thing on the menu but not not a not a servant of and he goes okay well then can just get a fillet and then mm-hmm instead of the surf and turf guy in a lobster on the side kind of the same thing. They usually really do it for me. Yeah well you're you're you usually paying because you're not here simmer down a little bit alarmed. Strong aside entrees. Sit Down and shut up but you know. I think. I think that if you could get a fancy grilled cheese with a fancy Chili you could. You could do that. Whole thing? Oregon grilled cheese at a fine restaurant with bacon an and tomato on it. Maybe grilled Pimento Cheese Tomato and Bacon with a with a ground sirloin in Chile. And maybe rather than than pick up the grilled cheese dip it. You could just cut off pieces at a time. Use your four to classier now because that's way class class year if that's me I'm ordering The flaming good Nog and imported the chilly over the top of it there in TJ going on today on the as in Tj but in delicious audio. What well first off? We're only throwback Thursday audio thrown back one year. Get ready but the third blast in the greatest Christmas song ever and not for Mariah Carey. Plus what happens when somebody confronts A Lady McDonald's and says your kids are being too loud and a little well. Somebody gets followed to the parking lot. That's what audio next Alexa Serey. Hey Google we're voice ready on all devices just say play. TJ In here our show live or on-demand stay connected funny on the Ason TJ APP available at I tunes into Google. Oh play TJ coming up hey TJ. 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McDonald's you know it's gotTa be good. Here's what happened later confronts parented. McDonald's tell the kids were screaming and playing the bathroom shockingly. The parents didn't take that will so the mother began recording and follow the woman outside so she's followed her now outside of McDonald's recording the entire thing. It's not okay it is okay. It's not okay for kids to spend so loud that the people along the complete other side of the rare happy. Not why are you upset. The kids are happy. It's not it. Yeah that is just trying to enjoy the restaurant to not the symbol in inside is right restaurants for everyone. So you're trying to make a gesture you you're trying to make it it just for you and to everyone else has anyone. I'm trying to make it for everyone. I'm leaving so your kids to be happy. Thank you bye-bye then you know. WHO's right that lady WHO's leaving? Yeah I mean it's a McDonald's kids get a little bit lower but if they're screaming like that and it's bothering everybody your kids can be happy. Be Mine Hey. Don't don't be so loud. Dial it back almost cost doc or maybe The kids the I mean the woman who was upset by the kids screaming. You know I'm Fight fire with fire type person. Maybe she was just gone over there next to their table or wherever they were and you start screaming at the top of the loan and get other people to join and get the rest of the people who were Bothered by it. In the restaurants everybody starts starts screaming dumb and dumber the world. Sometimes you have to show people what they sounded look like well last year at this time one of the greatest Christmas songs ever ever was released. It is today's throwback Thursday audio it is not your typical holiday classic. It's not a Mariah Carey remix. It's an original apiece created by the king across look John which I completely forgot about it to rid the brought in this morning all I really want for Christmas the home they sir That reminds me of another song that he did this complete opposite attitude of that when you mentioned where some cameras police though it is the acing. TJ She'll kill here's something you don't hear very often are actually we should never ever hear your mom's one in the school fight right. Oh this is so crazy coming up next USC. Download the Papa. John's ACE TJ APP. Today here. The show twenty four seven at instant access to as TJ on demand at all our podcast editor Inter to win cash from the act to show stay connected funny on the act G APP available at I tunes and Google play more as Tj. Coming up Armstong Pumpkin Porch Pumpkin Pumpkin Roll Pumpkin. Cinnamon Swirl Perfect Pumpkin pair. Can you say that five times fast. That's a lot of Pumpkin. 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This mother has been arrested. Oh she's a fly mother she. She has been arrested because she's accused of Jumping into the middle of a A fight with her daughter and and some other daughters and other people either way it was a schoolyard fight. Her kids were getting beat up. I think kid and she jumped in and hit a middle school students in the back of the head with a Taser. Good Lord okay. That was my fear was that it's one thing if it's a school fight. Maybe she got into it with the teacher. He's wrong obviously obviously the parent but the fact that she jumps in and start throwing blows with middle school kids not hit hit her in the back of the meaning taste her but the Taser itself as a weapon in the back of a middle schools and middle schoolers hit It goes on into the story and then the last little blurb is that she was also charged with violating her probation on a previous criminal mischief charge so Yeah so what that reminded me of. You know when I don't know whether it's this way outside the south but I know in the south there's a difference in in your mom or Mama going to the school and showing up at the school. I was taking taking assorted. That wasn't my mom went to the school and tried to settle this fight. So next thing you know my momma shows up at the school and she went it crazy and blah blah blah. So they're two different purposes for mom. There's going to the school that could mean anything that could mean helping helping with the Valentine's Day party or taking the your your child their coach. They forgot. Maybe you're going to have lunch with your child or monitor the classroom but uh when you show up at the school airs trouble. Usually show walk means unannounced for you to get on on with determination just like nothing. Nothing misses an observation. I'm a long long time ago. Nothing good ever immediately preceded had someone walking down the interstate and I think about that time. I see someone walking down the interstate which I just saw two days ago. 'cause they're walking on the side interstate. Nothing good immediately preceded that it just doesn't happen. Yeah so your Momma does not show up at the school will quote unquote shows up at the school. Unless there's something bad going on and usually you end up embarrassed It is an excellent observation. Okay we'll now cleared out people. Did you go to the school or did she. Show up the school Just are paying the next thing you know. My mom showed up at that school. Mama will say I'M GONNA show up at that if I have to show up at school and handle this I will. You don't want me show up and you're right about that piece and Tj Aspen. Just telling US something about her boyfriend and I just had a thought and a picture of my mind. She's describing what he what he does on his daily routine that needs to be addressed this when I was out of the room. I don't think you just come back into. Yeah okay. 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Are we going to be making public apology. I'm not an I don't know if you that's just for the people. Oh okay why because you just you just say you needed to apologize for something that you did earlier. It would be that quick that we've been going really. Ace apologized algi behind the scenes. I thought something I thought something was messing up our Internet today. That's not and I said some very very bad things about what I thought it was and turns out it was it and so yeah. Jump The gun on that one okay. Sas was just telling us something within about her Her boyfriend His name's will he's got willpower. We all do now. Oh my God all got willpower. Now Yeah And he is a Live in the city The young professional businessman and she was just telling us about his daily routine and what about his daily routine. Did you just tell us that we didn't I know already says he rides a scooter to and from work every day. Okay one of the city scooters that you That you have the APP to to ride and all of that stuff. Yeah Yeah how long does it give you when you get on the school. How do you have fifteen minutes Yeah Okay and so. He wears a suit every day to work. He's one of those types of jobs. I wouldn't say he wears a suit everyday maybe on certain days when he has meetings better this I mean a nice shirt and pants okay. Typically no here is the thing that hit my mind immediately not that he rides a scooter and I think those scooters silly and whatnot But your parents have not met him now. Your Dad not only is a harley enthusiasts he collects harleys he is a full fledge bike week. Myrtle beach every year. Take the kids. Even I mean a full on Harley Guy Yeah what in the world is he going to think about your boyfriend Radan a little scooter to and from work through the city that because I'm guessing odds are literally hell would have to freeze over over before your father would ever get one of those scooters to go across town. Would he ever would he ever tell and say you and will ended up getting married someday. Would he ever tell anybody. Anybody must son-in-law rods a scooter to work. If he does voluntarily he would not say a word. Would he say anything to Will if he when he meets will and all that what he ever say anything about so she's telling me you're on a scooter. No he wouldn't bring it up like that but he would be thinking about it constantly He would never forget it. He would pick on him behind his back for shirt which is not taken on. 'cause sometimes sometimes when you pick on people it's in good nature and all that has if it's behind his back then hang making fun of eventually probably bring it up if he you got close to him. If Your Dad is listening right now then you would know you would do know at this moment. If he's listening right now. You know that at Christmas this year jokes are going to be made about the fact that your boyfriend rides a scooter to work everyday. It's going to come out on my please please vide- have your sister video your dad when you tell him that your boyfriend scooter to work. I would love that. We can play the audio of it on radio. Riggins has done that before where he brings in audio of his dad whenever he's telling him something that would have a good reaction to that. If your parents were cool being on the air which they're not because we've we've mentioned it several times we would love the column and break the news. Okay well then that does give us something to look mm forward on now. Trending with Regan's remember a few weeks ago that Justin Timberlake story that we told you all about in now trending where he was caught holding hands with his Co Star. He has finally responded last night. Posted something on instagram. I'll tell you what he said. He tells them now. Training in less than ten minutes. TJ Show would like to thank everyone who has helped with ace and TJ's grandkids. Charity are once a year trip to Disneyworld with chronically disabled golden terminally ill children and their families please visit grandkids dot org for sponsorship opportunities and again thank you for more as TJ coming up breath want to save up to seventy five percent domestic or international airline tickets then call low cost airlines for prices so low. We can't publish them. Call eight hundred two eight seven forty seven sixteen eight hundred two eight seven forty seven sixteen is not the news news put. It is what's trending doubt trending rates on the act to get to Justin Timberlake's comments on that scandalous photos. That came out a few weeks ago. But I have you been following this Jason Derulo Story. Those they made them take down. Instagram removed a picture of Jason Derulo. He was in Bali and he got out of a pool. Jas Jason Derulo. Yeah we should say that. He got out of a pool when he was in Bali. Somebody somebody took a picture of him and he posted posted on instagram. And if you haven't seen the picture he is in like swimming trunks and he is Let's just say on display speak And instagram yesterday finally removed the picture because they said it violated their guidelines saying it showed uh-huh too much. If I looked that good I would post that picture every day. Everywhere Yanni Tiller whereby dislike. Okay we've all seen it now at least twice. That's enough. What in the is the? I mean we're talking about is private talk amount if your private area look this is pretty as you talking about. I mean shape shred Jason. Ruta looks amazing. That picayune Um plus the fact that just the word got out the district. Why instagram took that down? Were they didn't take it down because of its stature. They took it down because because it could have been in. Any I mean just happens to be In a colossal. That's that's complain. He said there's a double standard on instagram. He saying they were saying it show. You can't be excited now. He's saying oh it's not. Aw I would like to sit down with instagram and facebook as soon as possible to expose this double standard but yes it is not what you say it is because they they will allow way when in your way more gratuitousness With women yeah because Look at World Star hip hop on the page. I mean that's how a lot of that is awesome. You know as little clothing as possible north on me guys anything about what I'M GONNA follow. I'm impressed that. Wow Jason. Ruta looks. Incredible I'm speechless. What to save Vita what is that? Is that the most excited you've ever gotten over another man's area no saying that doesn't mean you seem. I'm not talking about that. I think we writing. I didn't realize how a shred Jason Derulo is. I did not know it wasn't aware that he was that shredded but to see that. That's a small bathing suits. Where his apps he has ripped good good for him to say I mean wow a you are legitimate ice speechless picture? Says I'm sure yeah we could probably Google some things. Ason show you more vivid vivid images of that area. No it's not an what Jason Jason showing the shape that I did not know Jason Derulo was that good a shape but that's why they took it down. I mean what I'm talking about. Okay so we will give you any updates as they come in but We told you a couple of weeks ago. The Justin Timberlake was photographed holding hands with his Co Star. After a night of drinking he's filming a movie called Palmer in New Orleans and he was photograph holding hands with his Co Star. And I said this is a big deal. This is not GonNa go away and sure enough last night about ten hours ago. He said a few weeks ago displayed a strong lapse in judgment. But let me be clear. Nothing happened between me and my co star drank way too much that night and I regret the behavior I should have known better does not the example. I want to set for our son. I apologize to my amazing wife and family for putting through sectioning embarrassing situation and I'm focused on being the best husband and father I can be. This is not that I'm incredibly proud to be working on Palmer. Look forward to continuing to make this movie and exciting for people to see it so clearly. It has affected him enough. He's like I am so sorry. Sorry I just see him crying. He never post things on instagram. So I just loved the follow up because he'd look bad. Look look I got drunk. I was only. I'm sorry I didn't you know cater save that Clip Hernandez move on people. NAP never never. This is not going away so all those things are trending. We're going to let you be Justin Timberlake with the public apology. Not You Regan's against you you John J-o-h-n Q.. Listener we do it. Sometimes I mean Justin timberlake actually got the idea from us because we've been doing public apology things for a long time. And he stole the idea. We'll make the most of it coming coming up next the TJ APP is your source for streaming more show after the show live each weekday ten am eastern or download the more show after the show. podcast stay connected on the. Act G APP available to go play. ACT J. coming up. I want to hear the best thirty minutes of today's. TJ Show. Listen to Ason. TJ In thirty a podcast available on the as Tj. Show podcast on our crap available afternoon. Easter stay connected funny on the ACE and TJ available at I tunes and Google play so Justin Timberlake riggins was just talking about in What stupid trainings? Or whatever that's called it's called stupid. What is it what is called? Oh now trend stupid trainings style That you know Justin timberlake apologized sized publicly to the the world For holding hands with his Co Star Darcy. He just he had too much to drink. He was out of it he should have been paying attention. Not I'm ashamed of this Blah Blah Blah Har- it seemed heartfelt. Made sense good lennon letting them went farther than that SAS as a woman use still will say a minute ago. cheater cheater. Whatever that apology doesn't phase you at all? Now I was missing. I think it's a good apology. He was I mean he was intoxicated. He was very very drunk. He says and it didn't go past that yeah. It was just a little hand. Coding little hand knee. I mean I'm still mad at him for doing it but I would accept his apology. And Reagan's you you're still Steadfast against him yeah. We don't know what happened after those pictures were taken. They were then photographed a couple of days later in the same trailer. I'm just saying I think could it happened you. Would they do on a movie together. People are often in the same trailers. Okay if you're okay with that but In his defense she is really really pretty. Yeah Way hundred and Jessica Biel Well not I didn't look at it that closely. She's exotic looking Roya. She's gorgeous but that was a joke. Ladies it I wish he would apologize for making our jobs harder years ago with the whole wardrobe malfunction thing at the Super Bowl. That's what I would like an apology before he did didn't he. I don't know yeah. He gave an apology. I think Janet never gave one. I would also like an apology for that. Last concert of his I went to because there's a lot of that that was wasted time. It was not problematic. is where I'm going to say. What do you mean There are a lot of these instances where everybody's saying. He seems to be beloved by everybody. But I've always you know. Kinda raised an eyebrow towards them. I don't like what he's doing period. I don't think he's funny now. He's a likable. And then I think this last crisis with holding hands with your co Star listen. I think there's a pattern of behavior. Has he been accused of cheating before. Listen I mean not a pattern of behavior. It's the first time you're just saying pattern. RIGGINS HIS NOT BEING MR perfect exactly they. Everybody puts him up on the pedestal. As being Mr Perfect celebrity right and you don't think he is not at all. Here's Britney spears you know Crimea River. That's his breakout. Hit Tear her down. It's tear her down. That's what you need to do to make a success. Ask Yourself. I just think it's kind of shady and he's used opportunities to further his career at the expense of others. Yeah but you know what. That's not something when you're writing people would usually say about him. He does he gets a pass on all kinds of the right things. He's he's really great. Yeah he's no as as far as a likeable singer and all that he's no Michael boob lay. Everybody loves that has seen Michael Boob may be interviewed or anything and you can tell. He's a nice fellow he just a Canadian. That's the only bad thing. Nobody likes Canadians for the Justin Timberlake. Turn coming I didn't either especially from ribbons. I didn't like that. Yeah I think he's problematic for sure. Wow Okay so who has a A public apology. That you need to make to your significant other on our radio show and it's not anything really serious but I mean like to apologize to your Your wife because you just realize that you left left all the lights on when you left the house this morning. She's always saying. Turn the lights off even lights on and all how some something that you just need to say. Hey sorry we bought a bunch of stuff right here Christmas and I could have been on my Christmas wish list. You know fun things. Saskatoon give a public apology to her boyfriend for telling us on on the radio that he rides a little scooter to work. Great example a that does does he ever helmet. No wear a helmet. We have to wear a helmet right thought. So they don't have to because I've seen a thousand people. Nobody wears a Goma okay. Yeah here's hoping he did. That would really change some things. I'm okay with the gloves. The Scooter McKay with him. I'm wearing hats. that aren't ball caps. But a helmet. He does have some doors that are called if there if he's wearing FIDORA's than with other call Fedora. No no you will. He has one but it could be from the beach. That's where he's from but anyways he wears were he hasn't in front of me. What are you just got on like a vacation? Or something about this clause the from the beach in Alabama now. Well he's from Fort Lauderdale that he's originally from Alabama like he moved from Fort Lauderdale. He was there for five years. But that could be from a vacation. I don't know so good. Okay here's what we're GONNA do. We're gonNA take a break. You'd let us know about your public apology. We're GONNA find a picture of Fedora and show it to SAS and see if that's the one if she can identify it as being that type of hat if so then Word we're going to have a field So if you've got a public apology something lighthearted that you need to make to your significant other Please E. D. M. US on social media media. Call one triple eight forty one as TJ one eight eight eight four one to twenty three eighty five or you can text us. But that's confusing the way I always say the texting exciting numbers of AJ. And then your message to nine six eight nine three. Yeah that sounds weird stigma text. We'll take them nick. There's more of the ACE and TJ show coming up that gets okay. I wake up date. Everybody can relax. We looked at up the hat that SAS his boyfriend wears players is not a fedora. Through because I did not want that to be true for are you. I wanted to be wrong myself. it's a hat that Guys wear at the beach in on the lake and the pool. Now those big straw hats that are completely round and they have the string. That comes down there. Were really really popular this past last summer. A LOT OF BRAS BRASS CONSORT ADS. Cool Fedora. Nakal unless you are Out A a guy over the age of seventy and Even at that you kind of pushing it now. Black me in over the age of seventy pervert. They're the only ones that know really. You know how to wear it. 'cause it's just it's just the style a a guy in my hometown Mr Rubin and he carried he didn't need it but he used the walking stick and he had different ones. That were all different designs. They were really. You know handcrafted really nice and he always wore a different fedora to match whatever it was he was wearing the coolest. Those people around you saw like a east goal doesn't need a walking stick but uses walk. I admire that and you know was also known to use. It upsets a my head if he needed to kind of a weapon so The other topic at hand Justin timberlake making a public apology to his wife for drunkenly holding the hand of his Co host star in New Orleans on a movie that that was all the all the Trending a couple of weeks ago. So what's your public apology Z.. To your spouse Jennifer has a good one. I'm sorry to my husband for buying a bunch of stuff on the Internet in my Vicodin induced coma after surgery surgery. This is not way. This is the second time I've done this. So there's a pattern lesser harsh having more surgeries. That's this lady wants to apologize to her husband for being addicted to cork sickle cooler bags. She says I now have four. Oh we're cork sickle family. But we don't have the cork sickle bags we have the cork sickle cups and Bottles and things like that like the same type of thing But we you can get your name put on those so I WANNA apologize for my wife for leaving the new gas stove on not once but twice for a few hours after after Bacon something. That's kind of dangerous. Isn't it. Well it's long as there's a fire going. Yeah that's leaving the gas escaping outta there. Okay as long as it's burning on and off your all right. That's good here in the clear. Are you finishing this. Yeah what's happening now. I hear that all the time. It's this more difficult with an oven because you can't see the flame in an oven and it's on the stove the flame. I'm going you just pull something out of the oven like at Thanksgiving. When she burned roles may not think about that was? I was messing with her things. She didn't burn the roles. They were just a little too brown for my taste but I made eight out like she just had charcoal them. I'm sure he enjoyed was funny. Thought it was funny. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah and TJ. Hove you've got a story of of a dentist in Alaska That is in a court of law as a defendant. That's that's never good when you describe the person by their career and then that they're in court because something must have gone wrong with with what they did at their job and this is a dentist and it's crazy coming up next. Every weekday morning at seven eight and nine eastern Rigas hosts out trying they get the latest from. What's going on around the world live on the act? J. Sho- pond the act G half available at itunes and Google play or eight hundred TJ. Coming coming up on the ACE and TJ show was not a boy band. It's a man ban. Dan Ban the things men should just stop. Do immediate to make our lives your life. There's something we got to share a lady. Just send us a text you Texas eighteen your message tonight and six eight nine three. She said I wanted to tell you. My mother-in-law says she was going on a diet in my ten year. Old said quote. Nanny you need to get calendar and it's just Collagen login that you need and it won't interact with your other medication and you can get free shipping from TJ inquiry of that. That's awesome There's a dentist in Anchorage Alaska. It is on In front of the court. He's on trial right now. Now because he's being accused of doing some things that are not really what you would call normal. Dentist behavior like He's accused of sedating patients when they don't need need it because he's patting his Medicaid payments Extracting the teeth. That should not be extracted But my favorite thing. There's video that the the court was shown of this dentist extracting a person's tooth while they're sedated a a while on a hover board then the tooth comes out. He Rolls Away on his hover board than spins around with his arms. Ha I mean it's hard to not I mean it's hard to convince someone you're not guilty in its setting. I mean that's like a Jim Carey movie. Yeah pay you should isn't there and rounding on the Hover Board grabbed the pliers. Whatever they would call them pull it out and zoom back way overboard and there's a picture of him here and he does like he's in court but you can tell he's a broke doc not the tenth Dan I he care when I was doing when a guy so he's pulling to doesn't need to be pulled pulled? He's doing it while on on board. I didn't realize I had a total NARC working for me. Coming up on Dow trending with Riggins You Nasty that is the message for today. And it's one of the top trending topics also how the Internet is spying on you right now. Details trending less than ten minutes. When you want to do the show any time? Remember you can stream the AC TJ show replay all day every weekday after the show. Poor download the show with the AC TJ show on demand stay connected funny funny on the A._C._t.. J. APP available at I tunes. We'll play T._J. coming up.
1236 Gender Dynamics in Dentistry with Dr. Ansley Depp : Dentistry Uncensored with Howard Farran
"Did you know more than sixty million. People are candidates for teeth today. Don't miss your opportunity to take the most complete all on four course available from surgery to marketing learn from the best at four a._m. Institute dot com. That's the number four capital and institute dot com. We are at the kentucky dental association station with the past present the kentucky dental association dr ansley h draft no relation to johnny depp. She's a d. m. d. f. e. Did you d she was born in lakeland florida and developed a surprising interest in dentistry at the age of five her delight and driving two hours jacksonville every six months for checkouts. It's led to a lifelong interest in helping people achieve healthy smiles beautiful smiles as a preacher's kid. She moved around as a child eventually landing and <unk> owensboro kentucky where she spent most of her youth. She attended undergrad at georgetown college where she met her future husband rob. She attended the university of louisville school dentistry industry which is right here in town. She graduated in the top ten percent of her class ninety three her early commitment to dental health game to life in her founding at the delta dental oral cancer screening program at the kentucky state fair which currently screens thousands of fair goers the serious disease. This program has been in existence assistant for twenty five years now and the legacy. She's very proud of she continued her education. With the general practice runs the university of kentucky medical center where she cared heard for emergency and indigent patients across central and eastern kentucky dr moved to northern kentucky ninety four join him practices associate dennis where she devolved all affinity for the greater cincinnati area. She started her own practice. In two thousand one provider patients with the dual benefit. A general dentistry for healthy smiles as well as the studied dentistry to provide cutting edge smile design. She's active in the state dental or organization serving as president of the kentucky dental association a past president of the northern kentucky dental association and member of the kentucky association executive board. She's also a member of the a._d._d. As geeder fellow hello accreditation two thousand seven. She is currently working on her master's accreditation. I go on and on and on and on those forever ever in two thousand seventeen. Susan ducked into the american college dentist. It is the oldest major honorary organization for dennis us. Its members have exemplified excellent outstanding leadership so you're the daughter of a preacher's p._k. P._k. And what is beginning preacher's kid yeah so all those jokes about the breaches daughters ru true mild you know i i i just like to exemplify whatever labels on meat so but i i find their true. I had my wild times. I had my <hes>. You know you feel a little restricted. You see all <hes> you have to stand up to a certain image in <hes> yeah that was i didn't like that. I didn't like that restriction but i found my way found my way to college and found my way the dental school and and thrived to what is he needs. Fight your instant industry. Oh where does that come from well. When i was little girl i think about h. Three <music> i fell and i think this story is so much different than what a lot of other people will tell us when we lived in a small town in florida when i fell my parents took me to local dentist in the town and he said i don't treat kids but there is a guy in jacksonville. Oh florida that is a pediatric dennison treats children so my parents they are and this is an seventy two seventy one and <hes> <hes>. I love the experience i thought it was amazing and i remember distinctly at age five running into my parents bedroom jumping jumping up and down and saying let's go. Let's go scope. I wanna go the dentist. It's the day to go. The dentist and i remember my parents looking at each other and saying who likes to go to the dentist who likes to go. I remember that and you know i. I wanted to be a dentist since i was fine so while so your website is dental blue dot com the blue be all used sensor beautiful lifelong unique smile. Yes and you're an highland island. Heights kentucky is a worse highlights. We're about five miles south of cincinnati ohio northern kentucky university which has been in the tournament comment the n._c. Double a. tournament the last couple years <hes> is literally right next door to me and so would you say your focuses <hes> cosmetic dentistry. No i mean maybe before the recession but i'm if anything always adaptable and constantly looking at change range and so when the recession came i realized luckily i had done a general practice residency and i had been working on my fellow and my masters and i how to water techniques in my pocket and <hes> so we are a general practice we see a lot of families. We do a lot of <hes> a lot of general dentistry the one thing we don't do yet as place implants but other than that we do a lot ortho indo extractions dentures <music>. I'm halfway between louisville and clevelander our columbus. Your alexandria pike say no oh well no. I should be closer to cincinnati ohio odor okay. There's right outside of cincinnati. I was looking at literally on the ohio river. Wow which is right about one hundred feet for more worse right now monster river yeah it is so you said when the recession hit so you've seen when when economic times are good there is a lot more cosmetic dentistry and when at times times you're talking about that is starting to come back though i that's only happened in the last two three years but i think going through the recession for me was all about maximizing what you had and i you know. I feel confident that if something like that happened again i still have the the skills to at least keep my my practice going. Were were year. Did you graduate in nine thousand nine hundred ninety three thousand eighty seven and it's so these kids coming out. You'd have to realize that there's booms and busts like i i grew from high school nineteen eighty. That was the biggest bus drivers right. Remember that idea the high interest rates twenty one percent double digit unemployment right. I had three friends who i in kansas whose dad lost the family farm and when the farm blue their head off yeah that that was the worst thing eighty seven was black monday and then marci thousand thousand the internet bubble and then two thousand nine lemans paw so would you say to these young kids that how dentistry is different in good. Sometimes i and how have you prepared yourself. Let me tell you i. I love talking to the students. I love talking to the students in this passion should of mine <hes> i have been a mentor for several students that have come through my office <hes> and then gone onto dental school. I am nothing if not direct with them about the field that they're getting into and i mean if you talked to somebody. A lot of people will use the word passion russian with me when they describe me because i'm very passionate about whatever it is. I'm doing at that point in time whether it's being the president whether it's being you know whether it's american dental association whether it's my practice whatever it is. I'm passionate so when i sit down with these students and they tell me you know pie in the sky. I'm going into dentistry because oh you've you've made. It look easy i i it's not easy and you guys are gonna take out way too. Many loans and you're not going to care about them and you're gonna have a big long payment which is going to decide what you do in life. It's going to determine that so i that's the first thing i start with is is get it together for going to dental school. Have your your credit in order. Think about every loan that you take out consider where you eat what you bring in what you dr who you live with because all of that is going to determine your future and they can't see that but i did you talk to him about that. The second thing i tell them is to be diversified and now general dentistry more than ever. I find that you need to know how to do different things. You need to know how to place an implant. You need to know how to do some some indo. You need to understand some ortho concepts. You need to be diversified and that was what saved me when i was during the recession <hes> <hes> my accountant said ansley. If you're down five percent other people are down twenty five percent and five percent felt like what to meet when you've been going up and going up and going not so that you know when i talked to him now. I encourage them to do a year postgraduate. I encourage them to do a g._p. Are learn how to do wii sedation learn how to do something that differentiates you from the person across the street so the a._g. Academy journal well does the fellowship yes so do you think instead of it being a g for a academy. General dentistry should be academy of general diversification <hes> yes. I think that's a great idea. I thrive on education and that's pretty obvious i probably would already have my masters if it wasn't for the fact that i got involved awed in organized industry and kind of gone through that and that just there's just not enough time to do everything i wanna do and raise children at the same time <hes> but i have two boys and what are their ages so i have a twenty two year old that i'm super proud of he is on almost a full scholarship scholarship to the university of notre dame law school yeah so he leaves saturday. That's so far away four hours four hours and then. I have a senior in high school that i'm actually traveling back tonight to watch play football. Y'all my mom's brother my mom. Her brother died in after notre dame football game. There could be a better place home drinking and passed out on the <hes> on the park bench froze to death in the middle of night. That's terrible but the but what a what notre dame. I mean not sure what that's my most famous god. You have a better uncle story than that. I don't think i do comments on youtube. <hes> <hes> do you feel <hes>. I have to ask you this question. Do you think when i got out of school at eighty seven industry was a man's profession now that the graduating class is half women that it's a longer did you do. Is that true the eighty seven it was a man's version now it's not i love question because i love this question because when i went into dental school i think maybe my class last was about thirty percent women <hes> there were definitely a i'm not gonna lie. There were definitely moments during my class time. Where are there wise discrimination. I think i'm a strong person. I think i just kind of knew how to give it back back and it didn't it. Didn't it didn't put me now. It didn't put me now but i loved the time. I came out you better than where we are today. Because when i came out in ninety three you're right it was a man's profession i was i was one of only two women in my county and yet those guys accepted me. Those guys and accepted accepted me at the local. Dental society meeting invited me to lunch. You know yes. I was a woman but i was still collie and i feel oh now that yeah. It's more diversified. There's more women that you percent women over fifty percent women but i don't feel the i don't feel colleague part anymore and i don't think that's a woman man thing. Maybe that's the world we live in now but that kind of makes me sat so unusually i kinda miss the good old days of just being a dentist and not a competitor so you feel that the calling us turn more competitive cheo gone from college to competitors sound to you. I'm <hes> i i do notice that there's two types of those that thinking fearing scarcity growth in abundance so i it's so funny that we're talking because i've been on dental town a long long long time but i never i a stalker so i go on. Would you go to find out what what is your think hits and chick a._n._z. H k eighty the in z z c h i c k jack see my nickname and come up now all right then look for me under ansley dep- it may be just ansley depp okay but anyway so hyphen a soccer on dental town a long time. I use it all the time i i've found consultants off of it. I i go in there and look and see what materials i go and look and see what what people are our our procedures at. They're doing i go and look at is this a slow time com commiserating whatever but i never placed a comment ever and then a few years ago i think i was just at a crossroads in my practice and i actually played a comment and it was a personal statement like i am depressed. I don't wear my practice is i. Don't you know an i. The first response was you've been on here ten years and this is your first comment and i was like okay all right. You know i kept going. I pushed and dan yeah had some really good responses from patient from people on the thing. The next thing i've noticed is that now we got facebook. Hertzen popped up and i'm on several of them and they'll come up and i'll get drug into even though i try not to because i wanna leave work at work. I don't want to be there all day long and the same thing happens there here you post something and somebody jumps on you and you know. Why did you post that or why are we at that place and industry. Why aren't we at a place where it's support and lifting a dentist op as opposed was to will you shouldn't be taking insurance. You're the person dragging everybody else down so that's my thing you know when i came out maybe it is the insurance insurance thing. Maybe it's the corporate thing but i feel like nowadays that it's corporate against non corporate part time against full-time burl against guy <hes> implant person against non implant person insurance against non insurance specialists against general dentistry you feel do i mean i feel when i go on these blocks. That's the way it looks to me and i miss i miss the days he's when somebody would reach out have lunch. You know and i've tried to do that to some of the younger guys who've come out guys guys and girls young people i mean when i say is just to kind of encourage them yeah so would what advice would so we talked about when the kids going to school that they that they live beyond their means like there's little schools narayana arizona. I mean when you go to the parking lot of that dental school. This nicer cars is the only thing is in <hes> if you go oh to the elementary schools they're all poor cars right then you go to the <hes> the arizona school district the management people don't have students and it's all nice nice big cars but you look at those schools and then they say things like they post time are now for spring break. We did a carribean cruise and it's like you flew an airplane and took a cruise on student loan. You had your own room. I mean is it's just <hes> i mean and then and then what blows my mind is oh. Come out the doll schools where there's two in his one emesa. Wanna go wow the governor's five hundred dollars. When i get to phoenix arizona there is no fluoride in the water and no donald i now there are others florida in the water and to dental. I didn't and they just passed the law. Arizona's now the first state in the union to honor any other state license so state license which i'm all four that's great but dennis are gonna come but yeah but the drinking is five thousand dollars debt. I'm like dude. I know you're right. He's a dentist. Don't live with your mom and dad and then you find out two years later. He bought a four hundred thousand dollar house yes and and so how do you get what in when i talked to anybody in in personal finance they say that physicians denison lawyers always live above their means. Do you believe that or i do and i told you i'm very passionate about this and i like this diamond could have been so. Why did you get a one eight. It's a carat diamond because i've been married twenty five years. This is what you get when you're at twenty five no this was this was my second okay. Yes now this this really this was pay off everything and once you paid off something and you've been married twenty five years then you get something special but that's what it was i remember by the house before they've earned though you would laugh at me i we talked today. I was talking to myself yesterday what i said. What did i by what i paid off my school loans and they said i think you have an ipad. That was my reward and i bet i'd be three hundred dollars for an ipad and i was excited because i paid off off my school lots. I you know i talk a lot about this. If somebody will listen to me i actually had a. I have a presentation that i have given to a young dental students and it's called the saint daddy's dentistry no more and it's you know it's talking about how things have changed and <hes> and i talked to them about living within their means. Sometimes i get a few that will listen to me and sometimes i don't but i my associate. I have an associate and i spent a lot of time talking to her. She said we want to build. We wanna build one. Bill said you should have two hundred and twenty thousand dollars in loans. You want to buy into the practice. Let's start paying off those loans. Stay in this house. It's completely paid for pay him off and then seven years you can do whatever for you want to do with a free and clear conscience now she. She's somewhat listening to what i said but i have others. I had a young girl. I mentor lord. I you know she's in dental school. She started this year and i was all over her. Get a roommate and dental school. Get a roommate and dental school. Did she get a roommate now. I did not get a roommate. She would be laughing right now but i told her i said that's going to cost you forty thousand dollars over four years to be by yourself now and screaming here's our country nine thousand nine hundred million dollars in debt and they still give cost of living adjustment raises the all the time like like like social security and social security they all complain about how little they get they all live alone and they all drive their strategy and you look the the roads like ninety. Eight percent of the cars have one person straight with everybody. Who's a senior citizens. Social security just got one roommate. I mean they astray trey on never even thought about is not only talking about somebody else yeah. It seems like a lot of kids want to pay back caller student loans without any blood they wanted to bleaching bonding and visit align veneers cosmetic dentist and it seems like the money is made with blood in guts abstractions indo an implant you <hes> what what would you say to someone who wants to be a successful dentist and not doc get any blood on them. I mean i mean well. I'll tell you what i'll say. I'll say look at smile. Direct club look at whitening in spas. You know all the things that you don't wanna touch and you don't wanna get dirty in are the things that other people are touching and getting dirty in are not are are not getting dirty on so you know you you. We have to be what a spark can't be. We have to be what a i hate to even uses for. We have to be with a dental therapists can't be we have to be and that's why i done this river. You have to be diversified you have have to you have to have things in your pocket that maybe the person next door. That's not a competitive thing on me for me. That's living that that is staying alive and that's what the a._d._d. Did for me. I earn my fellowship and it was i i remember arguing with the guy in charge is no no you're saying i'm not gonna do implants north though i'm doing things crowns and i want i wanted him to waive that requirement heart and that part where i had to learn this stupid ortho and implants but but the so finally i got so upset that i found out hi can knock out my whole implant bill. There's this guy you've probably never heard of a coral mistress three day weekend so i signed up for this this course that i know anything about just and i was so out yet because arizona at that time didn't have dental schools didn't have any those past drive program so i had to fly so i'm like damn. I gotta fly to pittsburgh for three days once a month for seven months because you let me out of this and he says you know l. Howard you got it ma- and i fell in love with and then you took off right so so what would you say to someone who says. I don't like blood and guts. I mean how did you how did you go wounded. Donald why go to dental school. I mean y'all should have gone into electrical. I mean but but seems to be <hes> a growing plague in dentistry here that yeah anyway how old i am so here's here's another problem so they come out of school. They got all the student loans. Yeah insurance pays eighty percent of our muller root canal. I don't know you don't just sell them now. They have and half the colonials that they'll say i. I don't like more in depth all day long. So what are you saying. It's only two hundred and eighty four thousand dollars. They're not good at selling dentistry but when a person comes in and begs toothache half of them say i don't i don't like mourned a jimmy and they send them to a specialist that takes two weeks to get into you so you've made the patient happy at that point either so in my opinion. It's all about the patient so i'm about getting my patient out pain. I'm about you know. I i can't do everything i'm not in everything person there. I've got nowhere my limits are but if i can help patient which is what what i went into the career for that. I'm going to help my patient and so for me. That was learning the techniques when my associate came out. She said she said i don't like doing molar indo and i decide whether you need to learn how to do it and she said no. I don't and i said you're gonna find out you do because if you wanna treat your patient and you want them to continue you being your patient. You should learn how to do molar indo well. I mean i i just think of how many things that our ancestors do. I mean i mean we're. We're alive today because the future generation before how many of those future generations had to do stuff they they didn't like for us to be alive. Today i think that would be called more war to vietnam and i mean one hundred our ears yeah gonna cave gave i mean survival of the fittest right and you ask that question earlier. That was kind of how i survived ebbed the recession. I actually had a really interesting thing happened during the recession the school that's next door to me in keio had a large international population come over and we started seeing one patient and i'm gonna tell you can believe it. They had a five thousand dollar dental benefit with that paid one hundred percent with zero restrictions on it five thousand dollars. This is how i got out of the recession so i started seeing one treating them well seeing another treating that one well and it went on and on and on until we had hundreds of those patients in our practice and i had to bring an associate for this i mean it was but but those patients i don't want to get into like a nationality or anything like that but those patients only wanted their wives to see women dentist you know they they had very specific acidic things and we were able to do things that they needed to have done and they didn't. They had trouble go into an oral surgeon. That was a man because they didn't want their wives to be along with a man so those middle eastern middle eastern arabic or islam the era booker islam. I thought it was islam but is religion. I would just think them history's biggest rap. <hes> is <hes> half of the country's afraid of the dentist and i- raising four boys myself i was daddy's alday until they fell fell down and got an hour and then i run around and i would just think if the whole world is afraid of the dennis wooden a woman dentists have an advantage managed marketing. Maybe and i wanted to ask you this right because i always see this downtown. With those say gam- woman graduate enjoyed. I became associated with the old man <hes> for three years. That's about his practice and now that i'm in charge <hes> the treat me differently than the oh man and then they say things like he would say do this they'd all and then she would say do this and they all talk back and i'd say to me illich like man they were afraid to him and they feel like they can communicate to you. I think patients would be more likely to communicate with a woman. I just say i was a man staff so every so so let me just start with. There is at an advantage in marketing getting your associates. A female are trained to be an all woman dental office because that's a marketing advantage for dental blue. Yes <music> yes. I'm not i'm not. I'm not against hiring a guy four assistant or anything like that but it did kind of happen that way. I did not watch fry and be that lawyers told you to say yes. Is this the deposition now but i do think i think there is an advantage i mean i you know my patients will tell you i get involved with them. I get involved in their lives. I get behind because as i'm talking. I'm chatting with people. I love my people and <hes> there. I'm sure there is a delicate ness. Maybe to a girl compared to a guy. I do think women women have trouble selling <hes> because i think they do feel all maternal and they want to fix things for free. There was something that came out from the a._d._a. That said that women make more war lake make less than the male dennis when everything is compared hours everything and i was with the past ask president and we were discussing that. Why is that anthony. Why is that and i said well. Here's a part time thing. No it's not a part time thing. I think it's i think it's i think it's that i sit there and go. Don't charge them that because i feel so i do think there's some advantages and disadvantages i think how are you guys doing. John is in guam. I agree absolutely if my air conditioner broke down and a man came out and said we have to do one might i i thought would be no. You're trying to sell me a new right right but if a woman i absolutely would believe it i am that's an interesting phenomenon and i thought that was really and it's made me reevaluate how i talked to finance bussan salaam dental town and then i'll post this podcast there is actually an article that just came out about two months ago that was saying exactly what i sad and that they think the difference is the compassion of the woman but it backfires in this in this instance and the and the and even i even find it in just even telling people what's wrong. Sometimes like what a male cancer doctor be as good as a female cancer doctor. You know i don't know i have very are you very strong biases against men i mean i i mean i mean they. They are i mean they. I'm i mean. Let me when people say oh rely. More people have died in the name of religious dude. Have you ever gone to wikipedia. Male leaders have gill like ninety. Six people very six children. Gilded religious for males are aggressive. They're violent and we end dentistry resell invisible like like i know when i'm buying an iphone or a coffee coffee or a bar but when you told me i have four cavities i have you're selling the invisible more likely to believe you and that when i see a man and we thank tie on yeah when i see a man with a tie on i cover my wallet. So you feel like you. You feel like we would have the advantage absolutely and every every woman in phoenix <hes> who's a woman dennis again associate. It's going to be a girl right and they go. You think that's important. I okay they're afraid of the the dentist two ladies they don't trust men right. You're not a man <hes> and i mean just. I don't know my child. I assume would be better outside of your five year. Old goes kindergarten and you're all excited and you find out the teachers john i well. That's it's an interesting way of looking at it because i've always kind of thought that and five sisters in his good is selling. I don't think i just think where i think but i wilson that i think that is one of the things that i need to work on and i don't mean selling in a bad in a bad sense because people have this version of selling i. I need just telling the patient one needs to be done. Sometimes selling like you said the invisible and sometimes i think okay she she comes. She just got out of school. He's got two hundred eighty four thousand dollars long. She wants to learn things that can that will sell marketplace's payback rebels. What areas would you say. Go learn more because you do everything i mean. God you do bo- talks you leaders. You implants. You all these different things what is more likely than three thousand dollars a weekend on inclusion course to are the nash sooner so we sit down once a month. We have a meeting she and i do and we discussed this because i told her. I said you need to have your thing. You need to find your thing and you need to grow with it. 'cause you're young. You got were dentistry to do so. What's your wanna be and you know in you know. If you say cosmetic dentistry i say okay you and everybody else oh what you're going to be and so she and i discussed it and she chose rose i._v. Sedation which i think is i think that's a legitimate thing because not only does that. Help her with the scared part. She's a female but it can also so help her with higher priced things so she can take that she can learn to do implants you could learn to do more difficult extraction she could learn to do. She could do a full mouth case like she did yesterday. So you know i said and i said go do it and we found the course she went. She did it and she's taken off so before she did that i._v. Sedation in course which of course was it. She took dr bekker's course up in dayton ohio dr becker. Do you know dr back. I'm sorry doctor bekker's listening. I actually went back and retook my sedation this year. Just finished just graduated with him because i thought it would be a safer office of both of us were trained in it and so we both have it and you know. I think that's just the start for her because she can do that. She can learn to place implants. She can go. You know she can do whatever ever she wants to do from that and so that you know i think that's very important and i'm not saying i._v. Sedation for everybody. I'm just saying find your place. Make your place and what's what's <hes> what's beker in ohio dayton ohio dayton ohio. What's his first name. Dan ban the man becker yeah. It's actually really hard to find this course. It's he dodger daniel back yeah. He doesn't take a lot of students. I think he starts out with maybe twenty students by the time we got it to our hands on we were down to. I think twelve or ten so <hes> but it's it's a hit the emergency medicine that he teaches in this course is second to none so so so so so you recommend that they go find their thing. I think they should find on their thing and especially if they're young and you're doing you're you're doing botox to dubai talks fellers. I use it a t._m._d. He is it for you know. I've done full mouth reconstructions. I've done. I've learned i've done the cosmetic thing. I'm friends with david horn. Brooke went through his forces. <hes> i have a friend in phoenix. Who's one of my classmates might smith you know mike smith. Smith fighting edged industry. Wow he is one of my dear dear friends <hes> he helps out with things so you know i but then i've even myself have you know tried to branch out out and do different things and i fifty one now and what's my next thing going to be. I don't know how how can you were outcome. You could say that and it seems like almost everyone all might smith him. There's an you won't believe me. Mike mike smith accurate last last yeah. There's <hes> i have. There's two hundred and fifty thousand townies in some of those names irs like i mean so. You're a mike smith. You've gotta gotta add your middle initial and he teaches <hes> yes. What does he teach forgot. Ah lien brady and <hes> oh what is it called. It's easy. There's a bunch of people i know air but yeah he teaches with a good group okay. Let let me ask on the learn tim gane. I'm like well is t._m. Jacob one percent year round exactly ours. You know what's going to be now. It's not your thing. It's not i mean it seems like seems like practice manjoo orange people tell me that if an office isn't doing to root canals a week yeah they're niger and they're not really in the prophet if they're not doing in two root canals in two extractions a week yeah they're not in the zone but then the dentist will spend three thousand dollars in on on something right one percent of that's sirloin yeah. I try to be more. I try and really think about that now compared to when i was younger you know. Is this really going to help me. Am i going to get something out of it because i don't know maybe it's maybe it's the age i am and you start thinking about retirement and things but i just don't want to throw money the central senior almost all women. I know they'll never tell their age even if you ask your hair don't but where does that come from. Why do you not care the only woman i know i have another woman. I'm proud of how far i've come and hand and i don't know i. I also think coming back to what i said earlier. I love identifying with a little a little bit older group. I i feel camaraderie with them and and so i don't care but on the other hand. I don't mind talking with the kids but i wanted to know that i'm older the nan- because i guess i'm more motherly at that point so i didn't down. We've made four hundred one our horses yeah and he'd been viewed it almost a million tax amazing because it's a lot of money to fly to a court trial but it's eighteen bucks for a course on dental towns. I wish i didn't know that i wish you would could you said you have lectures. I wish you would make us a course because one of the biggest complaints are on our magazine and are the number complained and now i'm half the class. Graduating is female. Yes and all your courses are by men and what do you want me to talk about. What what what what what you're passionate about and i told myself i said we we have to we have to have more podcasts and articles like this. This is on the cover dental town. I don't know how bridges really another white male. I think i there's a reason for that. I mean i didn't even get into doing my organiz dentistry until my kids were old enough. I mean i wanted to be involved but at monash are immunised comes back to that thing we're trying to balance two things and and <hes> you got you got to run but but that's that's a good thing to end on a lot of them. Come out of school and i say you know the reason. Your mom and dad cried at your dental school. Graduation is because it was a sacred sovereign profession and then they come out and say. I don't want to be a member of the day because i got sued loans on order. Pay my dues so the next generation. They're going to be clerks. They're gonna be dental technicians at walgreens. I mean so what what do you say to the young kids. You say i'm not. I don't want to join organized dentistry or they find something. They don't like about right that you don't like about your own parents. I mean your parents dot no and you know what i say. Perfect thing my parents ever did was have me the one and this is what i tell people. I'm like okay then. Let's not join an okay. Let's look around and find a comparible organization to us in medicine okay the a._m._a. What's the percentage of doctors turner ama members what fifteen twenty percent what's happened to medicine. Why did you go to dental school. You go to dental school because you watch what happened to medicine and you thought i don't want those hours and i don't want working for hospital. Oh you went into dentistry for some autonomy. You entered industry for the money and the better hours. Who do you think created that for you. Do you think it was you because it wasn't you. It was nice guys that came before you that fought got to keep dentistry where it is right now and if you don't believe that go to washington d._c. Sometime and watch the lobbyists for the a._d._a. Way it's amazing and i'm telling you right now. I wish some people say oh we should we should boycott insurance and we should do that great but we can't because we're are not allowed to in this country. That's where we are but we have one place one place that can help us do something and that's that's it. Why else is that what else so it's not perfect. It's not it really isn't perfect and you know some people like with a._d._d. This ugly okay. Nobody else has that big of a voice nobody else and if you're going to stand over here as an out wire. You're going to have his loud voice. As the you're not i was prison all all the pushback on mark wahlberg speaking. No i mean it's like wow i didn't know marky. Mark had that we integrate chris. We because you're a preacher's daughter i mean i mean the guy was very bad as an adolescent and he admits it public and he tried to turn his life around and isn't that what we celebrate isn't about forgiveness news and try to be better verse. That's what we celebrate it. I thought it used to be that some you know we we wanted to hear the story of somebody turning their life around and now instead of celebrating somebody turning their life around now where putting them down for something twenty thirty years in their past so it's become a place where we can't we can't move pass something i don't but that's i really so what what are you saying this. If i knew something bad i not to apologize. College is reform admitted and go out to do all these things <hes> tomo because then you'll know i did something bad and then i don't understand because we're i you know it's very politically correct world and the only get it because we're not mark speaking. I'll be honest with us is when they put his picture up there that he was speaking every thought i was like that is not me <hes> i think you would love but yeah low hate the sin in love the sinner i mean exactly i mean that's really should young for senegal humans. You have failed at one hundred yeah yeah so <hes> very bizarre but love your passion. Love everything you do. I would love to have you do a of course on dental. China was so honored that you came by today. <hes> thanks again for all you do and anything you want to do a dental talent you know we need to have more women leaders. See what i can do more women leaders and thanks for all your good luck on your life to tell us about your lunch and what would it this is. I'm since i'm the the immediate past president. I'm in charge of our luncheon today. They're probably wondering where i am but <hes> i'm just hosting it saw. That's what's amazing to pass. Thank you so much.
Last Dance Wrap-up, Ronan Farrow and Ben Smith, and Lawrence Wright on Fact and Fiction
"Hey It's Kelly and welcome to the ring podcast network. The ringer is launching a new podcast. From the guys who brought you assessment as family barbecue called Baseball Barbecue hosted by Jake Mints and Jordan's Shusterman bringing you the good the bad and the utterly bizarre corners of the baseball world and everything that makes it special. Throughout the off season they'll dive into the rabbit hole on some of their favourite fascinations from the homerun Derby to baseball brawls and much more once this season returns they'll break down the latest. Mlb News and developments. You can subscribe to Baseball Barbecue on spotify or wherever you get your PODCASTS L. O. Media Consumers Bryan Curtis and David shoemaker of the ringer here. This is a press box and on today's agenda. David we will touch on a media matchup for our times. Ben Smith of the New York Times challenging the reporting of the New Yorkers Ronan Farrow and speaking of the New Yorker are Monday interview is with the Great Lawrence right who has just published a novel about a worldwide pandemic. Where does that sound familiar? Why did they nonfiction? Master turned to fiction. Plus David guesses a strain pun headline and the overworked twitter joke of the week. But David let's start with some final thoughts on ESPN's Michael Jordan documentary. The last dance which stopped. It's amazing five week run as a content machine. On Sunday I question. What are we meeting the collective sports media going to talk about now? We don't have to new hours. The last dance Dissatisfied every Sunday night. It's really a question this is of all of the kind of Monaco of the corona virus period. This was the one that we definitely saw coming obviously was announced. They were rushing it out. Posts for following the you know beginning of the quarantines and whatnot but But as soon as they announced it it was like a heavyweight championship. Fight right like the entire world felt like was looking forward to this thing happening. You knew the date. You knew what the result was going to be even if not. You didn't know who's GonNa win. You knew exactly what kind of attention it would get in how we would respond with what tones and gravity in our voices It's it doesn't seem like there's anything on the agenda that could possibly fill up take much oxygen although there will be something. I just don't know what you know. Nothing's really been announced except like you know we've got the return of UFC just happened Didn't seem like that's going to take. Its place I'm not sure. Yeah Nascar Yeah. There's are going to start coming back where they mean were already talking about the. Nba is honestly think. The biggest game in town is the ongoing conversation that we had last week about our basketball and football. We're GONNA make it happen one funny thing. I noticed last night. At eleven o'clock eastern when the tenth episode ended was People Thanking. Espn and these are journalists not just Jordan basketball fans people thanking ESPN for showing this this Espn isn't a place in the sports universe and has been for a decade two decades now where it's kind of like the New York Times where people talk about it. Usually when they're throwing bricks at it and talking about how much it sucks or Monday. Night football sucks or or whatever it is and on a smaller note I just. I don't know that people are going to be as happy with. Espn as they are right now for showing this thing during the pandemic. Yeah I mean. That's really perceptive. We've talked about. Espn on on this. Podcast probably more than anything absent. Our our president and I don't remember a positive conversation or or a conversation that was based in somebody's positive an upbeat opinion about the network You know how great ESPN is. Let us discuss like that. That hasn't happened. Yeah we probably yeah they probably would have. You know yanked as off if we'd been doing that kind of thing just because it would be listening but we do see. We do. Need A life-affirming podcasts. On the network we should look into that anyway. I do think that there's You're absolutely right This is a huge moment. Espn and you know absent. Some incredible change of heart by the entire universe at the same time. Coming out of this thing is might be like the last moment of where? We're just all like just hugging each other and thanking a media company for putting something out at exactly the right side but I know that these media companies I mean I've heard stories From other sources you know places like net flicks that you know one year. Somebody will be pitching something in those. Your say what. Our audience really wants is eight to ten episode series. And then they'll you know a year later they go on go in in the same audience really wants is no more than four episodes for the absolute most you know and and I wonder how much that sort of thinking and certainly the corona virus is a little bit of an un- you know it's it exists outside of the Algorithm released. Did at the beginning but I wonder how much of how much kind of big thing like that went into deciding. This was going to be the link that it was come out when it was it did sort of seem at the beginning like it was more expansive than it was. Maybe initially envisioned as being. But you got to. You got to the end and you're seeing all this other all of these other shows other stuff they're squeezing and you're like I wonder if they had known how big it was going to be. If this wouldn't have just been thirty episodes you know they wouldn't. I mean instead of instead of the are instead of relishing in this sort of art of the format jumping around timeline stuff. Why not just put it Ju- maximize it put in as many last many minutes as possible during you know you're right and who tunes out right at this point you know. Yeah and by the way I had doubts about ten. I think I think when this started you and I were kind of saying like who's going to be here in in episode eight. You know it's going to start really strong everybody's going to be locked in but by episode eight. Are People really going to hang with this thing knowing how this story ends and they really did a couple takes? I WanNa hit you with this. One is for Mario PELS. Zach Lowe made a really good point. I thought on his. Espn podcast about Michael. Jordan's self marketing when it comes to the last dance. Listen to this speaking of which I think Michael before the release of the documentary coming out and saying an in a rare public statement saying I think some people are GonNa come away from this documentary. Not Liking me as much. I think that was an ingenious bit of marketing by Michael it primed audiences to expect salacious. The scene stuff where what really is what. What really is the cases. Everybody who cares or knows that Michael gambled a lot or knows that he punched will perdue. Any Punch. Steve Kerr in. He was very hard on his teammates. And that has all been melded into the image of this is how you get Michael Jordan. This is how you get the greatest basketball player in the greatest winner in the history of the sport because he is like this because he is more competitive than anyone else can relate to. It's all the gambling the the harshness to his teammates. All of this stuff. That Michael Sort of prime. The audience is all. You're not gonNA like this. It's already been all blended together in the image of what he is and it's an image that I think people like so I think him coming out and saying that was a really smart bit of marketing and and and nothing more because I think everybody. It's all part of Michael. This is something that I was wondering the entire way through which is at what point does there's there's two impulses here that. I can't quite figure out where they meet. One is anybody as wealthy and successful and wealthy and wealthy as Michael Jordan is probably largely oblivious to what to the negative things people say about him right and so that I mean no no Ma- most people who people who've reached that level of life are okay. Okay but I do think. There's an element of Michael Jordan himself. And ESPN. And we're going to go in broad strokes that whole competitiveness where he probably the whole the. The Locker Room Bulletin Board Aspect of his personality where he wants to know exactly what should be talking about him. Because that's what's going to motivate them to get a bed tomorrow and I. I wonder if he said people aren't going to like what they hear. Because he's maybe a little bit oblivious to the fact that people know a lot about him and know that you know the the dirty details so much as they were conveyed in this documentary at all and I wonder how much is again is him just being really widely and stirring the pot like like Zach. Was You know implying? He's a good self marketer. So I think Zack is is right on some level. I also think he hasn't talked a lot. And you know some of this stuff was fairly raw the way he's talking about competitors or his own teammates even at times so maybe there was some genuine warrior people who know me from Nike commercials mostly or kind of like now highlights that run once in a while on. Tv will think of me differently here. Here's what amazes me about. The Michael Jordan is an asshole thing whenever there is a great team or a great dynasty or great player. What was their flaw in? The moment gets subsumed into the legend within like ten or twenty years we saw this happened with the nineteen nineties. Dallas COWBOYS STRAIGHT UP. I want to mention this to Michael. Irvin is the WHO is the Michael of my life and I said you know back in the nineties. Everybody said about the cowboys well. They're a great team but they party like crazy crazy and they have all this off the field junk later. The Legend became all the cowboys. Were a great team and they partied off the field right. That was that just became part of why people liked the cowboys. In retrospect it's the same thing with Michael Jordan. People say he's a great player and he was an asshole. These two thing him being an asshole and him being great player inextricable and that has become part of the Michael Jordan legend to me just as much as anything else. I think it's interesting because there are a lot of people who are learning about Michael Jordan for the first time I mean. That's what we keep hearing about this right. We hear about player to consider as players learning all the some of the stuff for the first time and I think to a lot of people. Yeah the competitiveness is baked in but even though today's generation the youngest yours this or whatever you wanna say didn't grow up in a world with be like Mike Commercials. I think to some people whether not the the competitiveness. The gambling is baked. And I certainly don't think it takes center stage. I like Michael Jordan. In so much as people don't even know all that much about him now as sort of on this sort of Godly plateau that even the the all the America's team Dallas cowboys have not reached or never reached and I think that it's easy to kind of under. It's easy to underplay in your own. Mind something like the gambling or would the punching teammates or whatever. Because you'd think how could it be? That couldn't that. Does that couldn't be someone of Michael Jordan stature doing that but that's a long way of saying I don't know it's. It's true that it's baked in when you're talking about Michael Jordan. All of that shit comes pre packaged together and it makes a lot of narrative cents prepackaged together and this is by the way one of the things I loved about the whole last dance. Experience over the last month is all the takes. We had in the nineties. Those of us who around for the for the regular version of all these events. Everybody just had again. Everybody you know Scottie. Pippen was also a great player. You know he was also one of the. Yeah I do remember that from nineteen ninety-three or Michael Jordan's you know. Being an asshole is inextricable from what drove Michael Jordan. To be the best player of all dummy. Yes I do remember that from nineteen ninety one but like this so one one thing that this dog does. Is it the licensed just to kind of have all those takes and explore them all again? Don't you think it's really interesting? I keep thinking about this because I would love for somebody to go and do like a like a a breakdown of the take ecosystem in nineteen ninety five right and and which is not the stuff that necessarily appears in the paper although there's some of that but the way that there's like this the sports calmness effect your uncle affects the guy sitting next to him at the bar. You know I mean because there wasn't there weren't the big you know I take type. Shows are leading the take argument. There wasn't twitter. That was going out there to the world you know with they re tweets and everything else but I bet. The ecosystem is weirdly very similar to what we have today. Just maybe a little bit of a smaller scale version but it does end up the same. And that's what's really incredible. Is that like? I'm not none of the none of the facts of this documentary early. Very few of the facts were novel to me right. I mean this is all stuff that you and I have heard before I'm sure that in some ways the storytelling be it from the director side. Michael Jordan side anybody. Espn side is influenced by the so-called takes that you and I grew up with but it's interesting just on its own that like the facts weren't going to change but it all this time has passed and yet the takes are the same right that the responses to the facts are the same as they were then right and it feels and it felt novel. It felt interesting at the time it felt interesting in nineteen ninety-four to say Scottie. Pippen actually might be one of the best five players in the league and even if you heard it it felt good to say it even if you read that in the paper and felt good to say to your friend and now it feels just as good to say this fresh even though the facts and never changed over the intervening period. I totally and by the way that is one of the tricks is probably too strong. A word but one of the things about doing sports documentaries about things that are kind of vintage like this is just running. Those takes again. You know. There's so many whenever it. There's been like a thirty for thirty that I've that I lived at the time I didn't live Bo Jackson. And that intimacy at the time. I lived like the smu scandal. I'm amazed at how it's just like that stuff that was so at your fingers has just as totally new life when you repeat it right. It's not like a historian looking back this. I'm going to reinterpret Michael Jordan for new generation. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa have a totally. It's basically just bringing that stuff out and seeing how it holds up again. Which is what you're saying. I think and allowing people to enjoy it a second time right leanna take again for the first time was in there. I mean there is no like making people giving people something that they remember even dimly in a beautiful package Retailing it for the history books and for generations to come as a beautiful endeavor. I mean it's a wonderful thing to do. There's not. There's no implicit slight and talking about that. There's a lot of information this and listen. We downplay everybody talking about this documentary. Downplays the visual which is weird because in documentary form that's a huge percentage of what you're dealing with right. If this were just a book stating the facts it would be reasonable in the New York Times view to be like well not a lot of new information here but it was really well written right but like visual component of this is really significant and the fact that they were the first people to show this footage. There was just sitting in the library for so long and we can talk about how they got it and whatever else who had to sign off on it. But that's like uncovering the Dead Sea Scrolls for there is a huge component of newness to this regardless of whether or not the takes or the back story is new and that is something that will that will. I mean it's really significant. This documentaries done. It was also the package start to finish was was really really well done to cover the space and time that they did in the in the kind of helter skelter storytelling. Saudi used and have it still all sort of make sense? I thought was really really impressive. Speaking of takes. Here's one I saw about the last dance on twitter. I am enjoying every minute every second of this documentary. This stuff is incredibly fun. I'm getting my own pieces out of this. You are a journalist. I'm loving this but there are moments in this documentary when I feel. The filmmakers are giving Michael Jordan. The last word in kind of prioritizing. Mj's viewpoint over something like truth which might be a little messier Here's the way I square this the way to think of the last dance is as Michael Jordan's memoirs. That's how I think it is. Michael Jordan has written a proper sports memoir and he may never do one. But if you've ever read those books. The texture of them is very very similar to the last dance. Yeah in the sense that somebody Michael Jordan stature would partner up with a great writer or great filmmaker in this case that a lot of it would be about settling old scores with Isaiah Thomas. Right with Brian Russell and those most recent episodes with Gary Payton that it would be more about Michael Jordan's perspective than anything else right. That would be the the energizing part of it and it would also be the limiting part of it because we weren't going to too far beyond what Michael Jordan thought of a particular moment that elements like gambling and his father's murder would be addressed. Michael Jordan would absolutely address those kind of things in more and that the overwhelming voice of the documentary would be Michael's own voice right Because one of the striking things about this they interviewed everybody. I don't think I'm being too harsher when I say I don't remember a ton of material any quotes that were totally. Let's say that many quotes were so penetrating from people. Other than Michael Jordan was Michael Story right and he his voice he was given the big quotes here so to me. That's how I think it is Michael. Jordan's memoir what do you make of that? I'm trying to think if there's any other examples I mean the the the non setting aside for a moment the players the coaches the people that are actually actively involved in the NBA. You know we're just talking to journalists and writers and stuff like that they were basically I mean. Part of their role was was sort of teeing up the takes teeing up. You know playing segway human segues from one thing to another and that's documentaries work. I mean I. That's you know but there there was. There wasn't a lot of like holy shit moments. Anything that the David Aldridge said. Although David Aldridge was incredibly incisive at times then you go to the other side of it though. And it's like well Phil. Jackson was really really close tight. The whole way through Scottie Scottie. Pippen kingly so skiers pippen was. I mean without getting deepen the pun very defensive. It felt like it seemed like he was spending the whole time. He's been the whole time. Sort of like prepping for his defensive matchup against the time he sat out three quarters of it or two thirds of the season he was in the rest of it was all just sort of like he was really felt like he was just sort of apprehensive that if he said too much than than they would use that opportunity to get him to say some shit you know and so he was just very kind of you know tight-lipped There were some interesting moments from it from Horace Grant from B. J Armstrong from Steve Kerr. But they were just sort of you know. They were fleeting. They weren't huge characters in the show. And then obviously like Jerry. Krause wasn't there. He would have been really interesting interview but you know he's not he's not around to be interviewed and Reinsdorf was Reinsdorf was impressively frank at times but again not. There's nothing revelatory that came out of his mouth Which is a you know. I'm just going to the checklist here. There's a million voices I left out. But you're right and Michael Jordan. Was the reason why we were there. You know and there's an an certainly. He had a huge hand editorial hand and deciding what the final cut was. But it felt like we were getting well. Even the relatively little that you got out of him was a more than you probably could have expected now. Maybe I'm biased. By the fact that he was wearing shorts and a t-shirt for half the interview. So you're just sort of like you're just like well you're not gonNA show up and Bullshit. I mean if you're GONNA bullshit you're gonNA wear a suit right but But it but it didn't feel like he was kind of off. Yeah he was. He was guard down. Which is you know. Impressive one more thing before we leave. This topic is the question of what we think about Michael Jordan after watching this or how this changed our opinion of him Jolie Anderson's got a whole piece about this at slate. I want to leave. T. You up with this with a really fun. Ps Audio from Dan Patrick. Espn's Dan Patrick formerly of ESPN He said this on. Chicago's McNeil and Parkin's Radio Show. Patrick was a guy who went to interview Michael Jordan. After he won the title that was one of the things he loved to do. And here he's talking about interviewing. Mj after the Bulls had won what turned out to be their last championship in one thousand. Nine hundred audio is a little scratchy. But listen to this little sitting off on my right. And he's ready to come on right after that and that's when we went to commercial break we had already gotten done instead. You know Michael Thank you. Let's sports sportscenter. And he got up and he's to pee in front of me and I it's a shame shame you're retired. And that's lead turned around and goes by. I said man I'd like a piece of you and you stand up I go. I got suit and tie on marine commercial break. Come back energy feel stand up. Stand up hell the leaf would you guard? And that's when I put my forearm out like they used to guard you with their forum and their side he goes. I would leak there bleep bleep out of you and he walked out the door he just turned and walked out the door and I went and sat down. Goes to see what I dealt with and I went. Oh my God and then like thirty seconds later and welcome back to Sports Center Here in Salt Lake is the with me still like going. Oh my God. If people only saw that on camera I just WanNa title and he turned to me as if I was Isaiah Thomas like he was like. Oh you want all you really want piece of me and I'm like Oh my gosh well. I mean you you said at the top. I mean earlier on the creative. Drive the competitiveness for Michael Jordan and. That's at the end of the day. It's those sorts of memories. I think we'll end up being. Maybe what you remember more than the content of the documentary. Certainly some questions. That were answered right. The the flu game sort of redefine there at the end pizza. The pizza game But Yeah I mean I think that it was. I think there was a lot of sort of validation especially for those of us that have paid a lot of attention to Michael Jordan over the years and I mean and what I mean from that is kind of a Joel. Anderson was writing about. This is the Michael Jordan. We expected it was actually kind of a better version of Michael Jordan than the Michael Jordan. We expected and I say I think one of our first conversations about it. I wasn't expecting him to be like office rocker but for someone who's been so quiet so so so relatively absent from the public eye for so long. He was really really lucid. You know I mean like we make a lot of we say the very general we the we in the twitter verse gave Kobe. Bryant a Lotta Shit in his post playing career a good natured for all the different endeavors. He was doing right and people would say well you know he's got such a good mind he's got such a he's he's so well spoken. He's he wants to do so many different things you know. It's shocking that someone like Jordan. Who you it's easy to forget how much he I mean. How how he was. He was everything as well. Even off the court and that he's been so reclusive again relatively speaking that you almost forget who he was but he is exactly who you thought he was or I David. Let us do the overworked twitter joke of the week where we celebrate a gag. That was so obvious that all of media twitter made it at exactly the same time senior nominees to at the press. Box pod. David a tweet that sure to excite the film snobs among US director. Michael Mann wants to make his heat prequel novel into a film. We'd we just booked a theme week at the Ringer already already done. It was an overworked twitter. Joke to right if this isn't called. Preheat than what is the point of anything David? Did you happen to see the Defense Department official on Friday presenting Donald Trump with the official flag for Space Force? Yes unfortunately very star. Trek look and flag. Given trump in the oval trump's quote was already from what I'm hearing in based on reports. We are now. The leader in space is really really a top twenty people are saying Donald Trump based on what I'm hearing. We are now the leader in space. It wasn't over word. Twitter joke to write plant. That's space force flag in Uranus. Thanks to MARV P kinda cheap but will accept it here is fine and finally David a report from NBA Insider Kris Haines the NBA will no longer use spalding as its official game ball starting with the twenty one twenty two season it will only be using Wilson Balls. It was an overworked. Twitter joked to reference this clip from castaway. Are you always kind of had a good run as a mean? Don't you think maybe I don't really hear people talk about as a movie all that much longer. Yeah I was trying. I suggested watching that just the other day separate. I had no idea that it was changing. Its ball provider popped up on one of the whatever platform and I was like. Oh you know maybe the kid and maybe maybe the eleven year old like that and and my wife is just like I refuse to watch that movie. Nothing happens in that movie just like Oh and I remember it was going through. My head was just like. Oh the yeah. It's that means that's pretty much it if you made us remember the pre digital career of Robert Zemeckis congrats. You made the overwork twitter joke of the week. David we're going to talk about Ben Smith and Ronan Farrow. But first. Here's a trailer for the new podcast. A wind of change with host Patrick Radin Kief high ipad kief a reporter at the New Yorker magazine on my new podcast wind of change. I invested rumor. I haven't been able to shake since I first heard it years ago. It came from someone inside the CIA and the story was that the agency had written one of the best selling rock songs of all time. A song that changed the world. That was the tip that started me on the story and it only got crazier from their listen to wind of change. A new original series Pineapple Street studios crooked media and spotify David in the notebook dumb. Big Story published Sunday night. I wonder if you and I were the only ones who were reading. That story on our phones while watching the last dance but a sad media nerd ven diagram that is and is uncomfortable while you know me all right. Ben Smith Newish media columnist at the New York. Times wrote a piece that these is of which is some aspects of his that is Ronan. Farrow's work made me wonder if Mr Farrow didn't at times fly a little too close to the sun. So you see what he's taking out here not everything. Ronan Farrow rights is wrong. He specifically goes out of his way to say he's not a fabulous but there are parts of this reporting. He says that are worth pushing at couple of examples in one of the acts of sexual assault that Farrow reported on involving Harvey Weinstein Smith questions corroboration offered by a friend of the woman who Weinstein assaulted another example in his book catch and Kill Pharaoh has a woman who says she was assaulted by Matt. Lauer run away and tell a producer whom she was dating what had happened guy. Ferro Smith reports never called the producer to see if that was true and the man when contacted says he doesn't remember that encounter happening so the point Smith is making is not to exonerate Harvey Weinstein Matt Lauer. But it's to say that Pharaoh in his reckoning is omitting or glossing over details to give his narratives of kind of smoothness that they might not otherwise half right. He is an example of sometimes. When you read about this newspapers there are those really clunky graphs in the middle. That said despite you know. Despite the efforts of the paper to corroborate this with friends and acquaintances we could do it or we could or the person we reached out to could remember this particular aspect right but this particular aspect. What did you make of that piece and this is a? This is a tough one. I'm sympathetic to. I'm sympathetic. To the case right I and I don't I think that Ben Smith's case Ben Smith's case and I think that and and I think that fine too close to the sun is a you. Know is is a very florid very metaphorical but understandable comprehensible accusation. That that is weirdly kind of more meaningful than a lot of the details that he you know meets out here I don't know I'm not gonNA take it. I'M NOT GONNA take issue with any of the specific details although it's worth noting that Michael Low of of the New Yorker has taken issue with a lot of the facts in this in this piece Tweeted about it but I mean went through it line by line but I guess I guess I guess I feel like I can't like my reaction. This is more of an emotional one then a factual or the fact based one because I feel like on the one hand the flying do close to the something sounds a whole lot like the what people say would journalists will say about any successful journalists or like any journalists to any journalist. Who like you know wrote the book that became a bestseller? You know I mean that's that's just sort of the way that you talk about a certain style of writer that off and on Friday is the native language of every journalist. Yeah he or she is successful. I can't wait till he or she takes a fall that is that is a universal language. Outside of the spent Smith please please anyway continue. But and I think that that's right and and and the other side is again. This is not an intellectual thing. I know that this is going to. You know this is going to feel like acid on the of the journalistic ethics out there but those paragraphs that he was like faulting ferro for not including are probably the least read paragraphs in the entire newspaper. Right as soon as you start sort of like like you know Hanway or explaining that the flaws in the case or you know giving the minor explanations of background sourcing and everything like that. I don't I it's important. Yes it's important I don't I would. Almost I mean I guess I. Yeah whatever I I grew up on you know in cold blood you know I didn't. I'm not trying to get too bogged down in the details here. So I'm sympathetic to the style even if the accusations are correct the Pharaoh style but obviously there's more at stake here and the you know the purity of the piece the rightness of the peace can certainly be called into question the entire even though. Obviously there's none of the big issues are being questioned here. The I guess the worry is that if a minor thing is wrong it will throw the whole thing into question. I'm just not I didn't come away from this. Been Smith piece. Feeling the need to light up any torches and get out the pitchforks. I don't know I mean am I? Am I taking it too lightly? Well a couple of things I think one is. The point you're making right is the one that ban is pushing on where he says right. Yeah it might be more fun and again if you're if if there is some part of everybody that wants to see Harvey Weinstein. I'm sure there is brought to justice to read this in a smoother more cinematic form. Then you know a newspaper. Peace with those clunky paragraphs you're talking about The Ben saying that when you when you go to that smoothness of style you do leave out things that are important that you know even those of us who would maybe rather read something in New Yorker style should probably know right. You know that that's one thing the other thing I think he's getting at which is which he goes. I think Smith goes out of his way to say is. I'm not saying that Harvey Weinstein is innocent. I'm not saying that Matt Lauer is innocent and all this stuff would just saying that when you have reporting like this. It is probably worse. Somebody especially somebody smart like Ben Smith pushing at it right hand and seeing you know what you know. What would it's built on what it's based on because you know if you're going to take off you're GONNA if you're gonNA take that victory lap and those book sales you know you. You are going to have to take some scrutiny to I thought a weakness of anything of Smith's piece was that he tries to tie fair to what he calls. Resistance journalism that has thrived in the age of Donald Trump. Uh-huh the point being. I think that if you have a piece. That essentially makes an accusation against a person who people perceive as an enemy people are willing to sort of accept it and whatever. I don't really think you need a think piece attached to this kind of piece. I think. Just the pushing on Pharaohs reporting and challenging it. At times I think is probably enough. I think just sort of weakens it because it turns into a and by the way if you look at twitter the reaction to a piece like this is an absolute mess because it becomes all about the New York Times about what about in the New York Times and and it was a pharaoh investigating the New York Times and this is preliminary first shot which is not how the New York Times works. I'm pretty pretty confidence saying but Those are my first thoughts. The the other one I'll steal this remote Iglesias on twitter is there really is a different bar that you have to clear to get something in the New Yorker than to get something in a book. Oh Yeah in a couple of these examples come out of catch and kill in fact the the other one Smith mentioned which I forgot to mission manigault is this idea that there was NBC. Harvey Weinstein Kinda thing to keep it out of the pay to keep it out of NBC. Where run fairly used to work? And that Harvey was going threatening to expose Matt Lauer it was an NBC star at the time the pages inquired center which he says. Smith doesn't have now it is a good reminder that what you read in a book as almost certainly not been subjected to the same kind of rigorous standards as something you would read in the New York. Yeah that's right It's I mean we've talked about this. Before you know the book publishing fact checking processes a lot less demanding and the New Yorkers is notoriously demanding notoriously precise so I mean it does it is a significant blurring of the lines to take his writing in the New Yorker in the rank of his book. As as one thing although again that sort of blurring of the lines is sort of what he's accusing. Ronan Farrow of right to sort of take two distinct things and smoothing it out for the smoothing the edges for the pogues public consumption. But I think he also does the reverse in this piece. Which is the an Anti Ben Smith? Which is that he just said. GonNa goes into such detail and with such a level of qualification. It's so many times that it's hard to really like draw a straight line through his accusations. Outside of the you know the deck at the top of the peace and I think it sort of I mean I think you're right he does. It is healthy for him to be pushing back but I do think it's not as not as powerful statement as it could have been. And maybe that's because he was over reliant on the norms that he's defending but it it wasn't or maybe it's because he didn't have a lot there. I don't what do you think? Well I think the bigger takeaways. This almost every piece of reporting that has ever been filed by anyone Even ones that we now consider in the you know Pantheon of of of great scoops. There's a private debate about it. Within journalism about how real it was about whether every detail was now nailed down like if you ask any journalist about any famous thing that they were contemporary to they will call it into question and I'm not saying that it's bullshit but every fact remember Ben Bradlee when there was at biography of him Now several years ago they found papers where he was kind of wondering aloud about Woodward and Bernstein's reporting obviously held up right and he's and he's not saying that was bullshit he's just wondering about parts of it right and journalism isn't about one hundred percent certainty and with the Weinstein stuff. I think it'll it. Sorta convinces all of us man. These people went and got the story because guess what they did right they did. They did they really did get the story. But that doesn't mean there's not a debate amongst their peers at their publications outside their publications about various aspects of it And I think what Smith is bringing. And he's a former editor of buzzfeed. So is his job to edit stories like this but what he's doing is kind of bringing that into light and again. I think it's a little bit hard for non journalistic kind of even understand that process because it's either they see this as either Ronan. Farrow is right or Ronan. Farrow was wrong right. I see lots of right wing. People saying a Ha Ronan Farrow. Got Him. You know. That's not. That's that's not the case that's also not what at the same but there are shadings to this stuff in journalism even with great scoops and every pieces like that anyway. That's my takeaway. We we reserve the right to say more about this as we learn more David. We're doing a Monday interview here on the press box. And this week's is a Big One New Yorker staff writer Lawrence Right. People know him from his scientology book. Going clear from the looming tower. His book about al-Qaeda and nine eleven. If you're like David and I that is a huge journalism nerd. You can take a deep cut and go with saints and Sinners collection about religious figures memoir in the new world Last summer in what must be considered a Ruthenian called shot Lawrence right finished a book about a pandemic but he wrote the end of October not as a nonfiction book but as a novel right and I talked about that and his theory of donkeys in nonfiction writing. Larry you're well known for sweeping nonfiction books like going clear and the looming tower. But you've created a pretty good sized pile of fiction along the way as well had novel about Manuel Noriega Screenplay for the Nineteen Ninety eight movie. The siege number of stage plays now the end of October. So I guess my first question is what each is writing fiction scratch for you that nonfiction dozen a significant question because I love both forms and honestly I feel that they're simpler At least they are for me and know researches at the bottom of both my fiction and my nonfiction a. I like to work with reality but there are. There are stories that you could tell better in one form another and I also like experimenting like trying to stretch myself so You know the novel. I'm sure many of my followers think was a stretch given that I've devoted most of my career in journalism but I I like trying out new forms and seeing what I can do on a riding level on a day to day putting words on the page level. How does it feel like a stretch for you will I've always felt that I'm more interested in what's real than what's imagined and Yet if you like with the end of October what was intriguing to me is that I could find out how things would really if I wrote about a panel interviewing experts in doing all the research that I would do for New Yorker story or a nonfiction book And then invent a story that would gloss over the the details about the science and the architecture of the medicine I was trying to learn. This book comes out of a conversation with the director Ridley. Scott we know something about apocalyptic scenarios what happened with that. We'll Ridley decided not to make the script of and I don't blame him. I had not solve the problem of the story and I hadn't done. The research is in the way that I should have done it You know I put it aside for years and but I never lost the interest in in the idea was really arresting to it would never in completely leave my mind so when I decided to pick it up again. I thought I'd do it as novel not feel that needed to make it particularly cinematic you know create a do the research find out from experts how this would naturally unfold and let it happen in the novel and so. I'm really grateful. That really didn't make it as a movie. Although now he's reattached himself as director so we'll see what happens in the original assignment from him was write me a screenplay how an apocalypse could happen on planet earth. He had he had read Cormac. Mccarthy's novel the Road Post-apocalyptic you know father and son wandering through the ruins of civilization and His question to me was what the fuck happened is not explained in cortex books so Uh decided that a pandemic would probably be you know what the fuck happened. My solution to the question that he posed. Did you consider nuclear weapons and global warming? And all the other things we've seen movies come out of. In terms of an apocalyptic scenario oh sure although global warming was quite as much as John our minds then but a nuclear war saying the bay like the default thing to go to but I I. I didn't think it was well for one thing. There are no heroes in it in one of the is hard to make heroes in our modern era. I think but In the world of Public Health I just found him everywhere and so that really appealed to me. It gave me a a world. The breeders don't worry much about and that's always very intriguing to me go into world that I don't know very much about but a learn the lower the history the techniques a and I was really drawn to the world of public health. I've done some stories out of a center for Disease Control. When I was a young reporter I was very impressed by the People. I met there in his review. The New York Times is Dwight Garner says the Lawrence Rides. Riding gives off the joy of competence. I love that. I'm glad you repeated forgotten that you reach that level of competence for yourself. Where when you're you know in in in sort of investing research a topic like that you say okay. I know what I'm talking about. Well can you explain it? I mean if you can't explain it to yourself and you know you can't explain it to the reader then you have not done the amount of research you need to and also there's a level of understanding where you may be able to talk about vaccines for instance but if but you can't elaborate on it and if you if you really done your research you understand what is like and understand the history of it you understand you know the personalities were involved in the past and in all of those things come together. It makes it more dramatic. Well let me put it this way. The more you understand almost like painting a picture it's like you have more color on your palate. No there's more to draw from and that gives it more authority. It strikes me when you're writing this book. We should let listeners know you finish this last summer. Before Corona virus was an idea or even pandemic and idea in our minds was to convince readers that a huge chunk of the Earth's population could be killed off by a pandemic even readers that remember Ebola SARS all these other things. How do you go about doing that? Well my question to my experts was what would happen if the Spanish flu came back. Something like the Spanish flu which killed between fifty and one hundred million people would have been far more people in today's world but you know there was no immunity You know the marched across the globe Out about the same pace that corona virus is doing right now and you know. All of my experts had spent their careers expecting something like this. It wasn't it was not a wild suggestion to them And so you know. They knew that there would be a pandemic. They didn't know that so you didn't have to push them to worst-case scenarios those had already been slashing through their minds look every year. There were a tabletop exercises at Johns Hopkins and places like that envisioning exactly scenarios. Like the one that I'm proposing you know these. These were the ones that were all on. The government racing folks were handed off to the trump administration The trump administration did one of his own. I don't know why they weren't paying attention but And you know that the president will say nobody expected this You know everybody who works in public health has to expect something like this will have your Screenplay the siege which he wrote before nine eleven considered the idea of Islamic terrorism coming to New York. And how would society react to that with that and this book in both cases? I wasn't trying to be a prophet. That was not. That was not my goal. We try to warn people. Is that fair to say with those two works? Yes it it. It's certainly fair to say because once I started doing the research and I went into the world of counterterrorism you know talking to people in the FBI in an intelligence community. They were all surer. They were worried that That terrorism would come to the United States. It was crazy to think that it would and so the movie reflected anxiety. And just as you know when I got into the world the epidemiologist they all expected no know the world would have to encounter another massive of the really scary things about reading this novel. The number of small details which turned out to be true shortage of ventilators. Et politicians insisting the pandemic was just the flu. Something we've heard in various forms Even a worry about people going to church on Easter Sunday which was one of Donald Trump's early goals in this. What is it like for you as a writer to watch those fictional details which you'd set down become a reality? Well I have to admit that I do keep score myself. A little bit He'd end is there are things that I got right lane The vice president of being put in charge and stuff like that the low number in Russia for instance for a while. Kind of a red herring in the novel and there are things wrong. I mean I did not take into account the solidarity of people to voluntarily. Stay indoors for us of you know at great personal sacrifice I think that's a real tribute. The way in which the government has behaved is probably even worse than the one that I described in the novel which is which is something. Because it's not exactly a competent Government the novel either. No not but the thing he didn't foresee perhaps as you said is like. This is very in the nod. We'll without spoiling too much. American SOCIETY OF NOT. All of human society descends pretty quickly into every man for himself and war and thieving looting. And stuff like that. So the ability of Americans and obviously we're not we're not quite on Congo level. Gone goalie level threat at this moment. But what surprise. You is our ability to follow the rules and follow the prescriptions. Such as they are Ya. But that's all fraying now. I don't know how much longer You know for instance if we have a second way. -Oday exhaustion that people feel already from this Spell of warranty is GonNa make it much. More difficult of there are things that we rely on to make our your experience easier than it wasn't a novel. For instance. The food supply has not been interrupted. While you know there's problem with me and so on but still you know the fact that people can get me get food that that lowers the level of panic. Fact that they can still get money out of the bank you know. There are certain things that are running. Pretty well Subtract those things in the world changes quite a lot. I want to ask you about a few details. You got to the book. There's a scene where we see. A mass slaughter of Turkeys in the book Reader Learns. How one kills tens of thousands of Turkeys at the same time if what needs to. Did you watch that happened? No I didn't I you know I interviewed veterinary epidemiologist. And one of them was just hook. Genius actually should be a reporter. She was able to describe there. Were two of them. That were very helpful. But you know the whole process of just ask you you know. How do you not talk to the farmers equipment like was the procedure? Like what does the Turkey look like? A you know I just All of those things. They were extremely helpful. And then they read or Book to make sure it was accurate. So you handed back to them and said does this sound like what would happen. That that passage in the book. Does this sound like what would happen if you had to do it. I honestly there's some especially with the science is going to trust my own understanding at the end. I wanted the experts to proofread it. And make sure that I had screwed it up. And is that something you'd do with nonfiction or is that just in the case of a novel like does well? Yeah a nonfiction if it like. It's a New Yorker Story. The checkers will bogo over. But oftentimes send passages To source and say you know what do you think? is just better to find out before you publish experience so even though you might get this what do you say? Yeah I you know at least you here before and you have a chance to remedy I always like I mean just getting things right is sort of the basic responsibility of the journalists another detail from the end of October. The somewhat dysfunctional. Us government flees to mount weather. Which is a real place and the vice president is placed inside a large plastic ball. You're right used in embassies to protect against biological attacks. That is a real thing. There are large plastic balls. You can put our head of state in. Oh Yeah Yeah. I mean they're there. I neither is so many fascinating things I got to learn. I mean the thing I guess. Most people don't understand about writing and journalism in particular is how much fun is to research and and to dive into these worlds and you know. There's a submarine scene in the novel. And I went to sub basin Kings Bay Georgia and they took me on a tour of this. Nuclear submarine is immense. But while I was there they were doing a test of their a missile tests and I went into the US. Targeting Room is called and there. Were these guys who I hope are really saying but it wasn't evident because one of them said. Would you like to push the button? His hands me. Something looks like a pistol grip and has got this guy to spiral black. Coordinate there's a red button on top rice to destroy rushers anyway Russia's still there so you you pushed it but I did but that'd be but my heart skipped but the privilege that you have is a writer to go into places like that. Is You know this is something that is just still fills me with a lot of joy. When you're preparing piece of non-fiction you go looking for a person that you've call the donkey. One of my favorite writer terms. Can you tell people what a donkey is while donkey which it sounds like a disparaging germ but is useful beast of burden? A donkey carries a lot of information on his back or donkey can carry the reader into world that he's never been four and a is not the same thing as profile. You know if you're running a profile You you know it could be somebody famous or glamorous donkey is just a partisan of a world and he's but you know it helps if he's in trouble It gives you something to write about. And you know in the in the looming tower of you know the first donkey that I enlisted was John O'Neill who had been the head of counterterrorism in New York and And died in nine lip of but he he was the person who had the warrant on bin Laden. And I thought you know. I don't know if he's got fired from the FBI. I thought maybe he's a goat donkey but he turned out to be fascinating character. I didn't know that at the time but I just knew that he would be a useful bunking. Yeah and Paul Haggis Scientology someone. Who's GONNA take us into this world and yes contradictions and flaws and then ultimately want to escape right? He's a very courageous donkey. Be Add strikes me with the end of October. Similar thing right uneven terrain difficult terrain for normal reader. To understand if not a normal righted. Understand how do you create a fictional donkey like Dr Henry? Parsons in this book. injury Parsons Embodies the world of public health that I so admire You know he's a brilliant and courageous of he had elements of a hero to start with and then in terms of concocting his character of first of all the name. Henry Parsons I borrowed from a real person who was an epidemiologist. Dr In England at the end of the nineteenth century and he had been head made head of a deputy at a public health board in London when they had an influenza outbreak in the eighteen nineties and at that time they thought that a influenza was caused by my asthma's 's no environmental gases and he was the first to conclusively demonstrate spread by contagion historic moment in history of epidemiologist and he's little remembered now so. I decided to give him a little more notoriety of. He's my Henry. Parsons has been touched by disease of you. Know he's he's partially crippled and by rickets and I had a friend who was professor As IMMU who suffered from that. And how is admired his courage of and The nobility That he had and bearing up under that kind of disfiguring disease And then you know there are bits and pieces of experiences that I've had You know for instance. I had written a lot about cults of I had been in Saudi Arabia after nine. Eleven and I was working at a newspaper there. Supervising the coverage of Hajj and survive. You know all that sort of stuff. I took from my own experience and put it into in reverse. Let me ask you one more question for you go. You came up in an age of magazines or to Texas monthly rolling stone and then onto the New Yorker. We live in an interesting time now. Where a lot of those magazines are show live? But I think if I asked someone under thirty would is the New Yorker. They'd be as likely to cite those daily columns and reactions and things as much as a conventional long-form piece of magazine writing would role. Do you think a magazine Article Compla- In our Journalistic Universe now here on twenty twenty. It's an interesting question. I worried that you know the magazine world would simply collapse And for longtime I wondered if there were any young people that we'd go into what they call long form journalism the term. I don't know exactly when it came around but it was just journalism until And you know the but the surviving magazines. The ones that are still with us. I think are pretty healthy of and there's still a market for but all that said You know they diversified. They found other sources of revenue. You Know Events Radio Just somebody different ways of expressing videos but at the same time you know the interesting example because it actually sustains itself on subscriptions no the New Yorker dozen had very many ads. I used to really sweat bullets. When you know Christmas season would come around in. The New York would be so thin and houses possible and they decided. Let's just see if people will pay for it and and people in their subscribers are very loyal and so that gives me a lot of hope that the New Yorker as a magazine will endure as it will as a brand in other book is the end of October. Larry right thanks for joining us. It's been my pleasure. Thanks for having right told me after the interview David that he is now working. There is not a joke is working on a musical. So nonfiction books fiction books screenplay plays and now musical Lawrence right has has hit for the literary cycle at the all right time for David. Shoemaker guesses strain punt headline woo. Thursdays headline about the decline in the car. Rental industry was everybody hurts. We also got a vote for hardship. Enterprise OUR SHIP. Enterprise which was really great. Today's strain pond comes from Daniel Czerny. It's from the Herald Sun newspaper in Melbourne Australia. One of the greatest cities in the world. Let me give you some help here. David Dan Andrews is the premiere of the Australian state of Victoria. Melbourne is located like the governors in the United States. Dan Andrews has started lifting restrictions. You can hike and Fish Aussie rules. Football practice can begin but the Herald Sun being a right wing paper. They are digging Dan Andrews for not opening up fast enough right. They're saying. These are minor measures so Dan drew's minor measures. What was the Herald? Sun's Strained Pun Headline. I'm going to take from your repetition of the I know there's some Dan Ban is lifted. Lifted Dan started situation. Going on here BAN ban. What's what's the band phrase remember. These are baby steps baby steps. Haiti steps Ben any steps small ban Small good little man once one small one small step for band kind. Dan kind small step for Dan. All right that's good and the rest of the headline is but no giant leap on work playgrounds and cafes CETERA ETC. He is David Shoemaker. Bryan Curtis Research by Chris. I'll made a production magic by Erica. Savant is we're back Thursday with listener mail. We've been We've been working on and Obama Gate. Explainer that can explain these quote unquote scheduled to our cells. Yes maybe we'll do that. Plus more lukewarm takes about the media. See then David Ryan.
The Los Angeles Lakers Are POORS Featuring Jerry Stackhouse
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I'd heard of it period that they were returning it like all this accidentally deposited into our account. Let's put it over here. We'll see days and now now Confirmed that the Lakers only NBA team to ask for that. That's the bad. That's the bad. Look right off franchise even James Dolan like when every single owner. And but yeah. That's bad look at even if this was the if the grizzlies did this. It'd be absurd because they still have a billionaire owner. I'm sure or a couple hundred millionaire owners but it'd be more understand the Lakers. That's that was the. Why did they give it bet? Did they say why they give a bit? I seen that yet. I'm sure there are hoping they could if they came out first with that they can spin it as like Low goal upstart does good. Now what what? It was going to be they got. How much would you say? Four point six four point six. They got one avery Bradley. Yeah it would have been a Laker's give two point. Three million dollars in binary really have to be donated toward the meals for essential staff. Hafer mask Another two point. Three of the PROG Listen you talk. This is exactly why the stars flocked there Ramona Shelburne I. It's just a class organization is one of the funniest things I've ever read. That's a bad luck with any other. Sports team like Niagara Basketball I. This is the only sports team I've ever referred to themselves to the small business oil boy. I'll say this and I respectfully Koby Mandell laugher burning Brian. You think they're on the tank. Now clearly by woody. We are they in the tate. They ask him for handles. It's how they sold a hand. Me JUST BOUGHT. They hand me are just all day. Hand me down to the rich guy just moved across the street. Hatton hat in hand. Lebron James just like and you tiny to Davis a one single undersized covered in soot orphan boys of worked all day at the steel deal. We're thinking we might get a second for some lunch. Mrs Bud Hamburg remind. It's a thank you MRS bus off his back out. He opened the door to Whiten Devel- towards Los Angeles Jerseys from tax year. That's very rough the only NBA team. I'm referring to them as a small business the rest of my life. It's a wrap for stars only choose a big market finally. Yes accents story. Paul George they feel is a big market Katy Gallery for sure big market but Andy Davis small markets a smaller market the first ever riches to rags story. I can the commissioner literally would not let them go to Sacramento banned him from signing his name on the line. That's a state capital. You get your ass Los Angeles. I 's Okay Poor Kid Probably Twenty Six twelve. I shuttered. Pink of business. You kidding me. That's very poor. Oscillators to was never would have happened in the Magic Johnson. No Mr Superstar Mas Gov cats Muan Bang absolutely so there's never would happen on Magic's watch that's now now. It would have been tweeting. The obvious to like I am going exceedingly. Broke keeping this boat afloat. Yes issue I have sold. Several doesn't my movie theaters which are going for well below market value. Dude no one using movie theaters do every day. I found out was a timber for heating up money more things but there are also bad things got restaurant NBA. But it's like. I think he knows is one now. He's invested the places people. Gather Wigan on the social distancing totally is what the till man we'll Texas reopening their doors. I think like today so I think people I mean he. That was one of those. Listen how much is it GONNA take? Governor Abbot Yeah. Yeah this is clearly a drop in the bucket restaurant hotels. That was a a lot of people are going places places staying. I can't believe like I saw video. Someone took while on an airplane today. It'd be like you'd think this airplane would have some sort of a year on the airplane. Why are you complaining about the lack of social distancing happening like what are we flying was like a full flight? Oh Yeah Pat that's disgusting. Where are these people going to the beach? This is Texas. That's the worst shit about open these days of your state aid open. Where are you gonNA come Georgia Tech Site? You intend to see any of these state. Yeah let's let's go to Georgia. Let's bring this winter's like this tradition over state lines that's great. We're talking about the off air the other day but I think if if you WANNA go out Godspeed younger to US hospitals us down and I wish it was was the like whatever strain they get it turns. Your skin. Blew up whatever it is. It's like sorry but like there's no room for debate here. They're wanted. I got it from a friend I was in the house. This shade of Blue Buddy. Come on your host right. Like I don't WanNa have to call for security man but you got me into Bass but so you can opt out of what we're doing. Fill out a form. You'RE GONNA carry it around like Like a license like I opted out. I cannot You can arrest me But as of right now yeah I if I get sick. That's those are the dice. I rolled I give him and it's like okay. You also get your hands off. It was just because you know me. You touched a dirty. Yeah you don't get to use those anymore period you WanNa go one hand one foot. Go Ahead I. We've never gotten back outside. We I'm looking forward to Memorial Day's like Memorial Day massacre turns out alliteration man. I don't make these rules. No it's true. I am wondering though like if I wish it wasn't so deadly like if we all just got it and it was just like everybody yet. Take your everybody. Just take our lumps at the same time right now. If I take too many people would die for. That is a real motherfucker. They've got us in quite the bind. Those desires I heard. I keep hearing worship even though I tried again I was like nine. People got it in a restaurant the AC unit it spread then. I heard it was like people that are getting in the thirties. Their thirties in their forties causing them to have strokes I was. This is awesome like this is. I'm having the most fun so again. It's not even like shit because again like I go out up save when I have to like grocery store. Whatever but it's like okay. If I get it I live by myself. I'm young relatively. Hopefully I will be not any more. No whatever it's get there real quick to be like. Oh yeah wants you beat it and you've got the antibodies you get it again. They were real quick to say that. I don't know that they had all the information when they said that I was if you make it. Yeah the ten percent of people that make it out now. They're invincible basically Wolverine now it'll be movies about them soon with Vin diesel after after we beat this. Now I'm not so sure. I'm really not sociable. I say a lot. We were given the easiest task humanities ever faced famine war there is. I don't know if you've seen that too. There's literally too much food right now because people I did not that. They're like smashing eggs in pouring milk. Down drains late just rotting puts a whole bunch of potatoes. Like if it wasn't so fucking devastating. It'd be hilarious. Gun does imagine people just smashing the hundreds and hundreds of eggs by the day but now it's tremendous tremendous that there's that kind of hunger one worldwide into every single state every single day. Oklahoma man are down bad. If we could all really pitch in we can hire the those Ragtag Lakers and they can walk around distributed some of this food. Small Business Investments Lakers drope on shark tank homes the silver. I'm looking for one hundred percent equity value Four point six million dollars chuck tags like now mark. You like basketball. I'm listening. Damage is like ron spread on the ball Cubans. I got a guy like you go out and Mike comes in. She's like I'll get in our own one hundred percent of the company and I'll give you seventy thousand out like deal. Jeanie Buss and Mark Buzzer after like pumping. They're fiercely. Yeah now to turn it around. The genie take outback. I can remember of Funnier story especially in recent times. Been a lot of levity in recent times loved why they do that and I. It probably wouldn't even have been news if they didn't give it back. It's one of those right that triggered the new like that's I with refunds of a certain amount of public record. It would have come out. Like four years aroused. Someone just like cheering. And it'd be like Lakers Com Los Angeles. What Roy pro shop like that? It's like damn recording tank. Wow close article and never think about it again right but coming out now. I'll never forget bad man. I'm waiting for the baseball teams. I played baseball teams brokers. They are but they're also like a monopoly so they have some level of government protection over them. That's why like all the steroid stuff happened on at like in rational hearings. I'd imagine what happened in the NBA. The Small Claims Court Bob Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb. I always feel like this one guy in the core really shifty eyes. While they're doing that are plaintiff here. Adam Silver Cleans. Lakers make way too much money Bob. I'm Tom Jitney. Buses would know we are extremely broken. Bom Bom man say Lakers poor Michael Jordan Oh yeah so we. We talked about this earlier while we were waiting for an interview. We did mud bill. Seven has come out at stake. Seven's already co signed it and I don't have any qualms with Russillo Bill Simmons said Dennis Rodman nod interesting. It's a tate. Listen I listened to it. I went after much. Yeah I listened to it and now they're both heavy on that side of it. I just very much disagree with them. Do they have any good points? I'm trying to basically. It was Russillo point. He did originally bring it up but the point. You know what somebody says that you're like okay. I'm listening like make your argument. Somebody says up. And you're like after that I'm out. After the way he treated him in San Antonio I was like okay never mind I I get it. We just see this differently. He's like are you kidding me? He's going to decide to take a forty eight hour vacation and this is just this is just funny. I'm like extremely wildly Mike. This is if he did like a forty eight hour bender every month. Maybe if this is a one time that we know of like over eighty two game. Okay if they just call it. Those load management now right didn't say you know what I'm saying but yeah. He missed a Friday and Saturday game. You'll be back to vegas the hawks. It's someone who's so in tapped with like the league right now so worried about mental health as well they should be but Dennis. Rodman was so in tune with his own. It was like listen. I need this for my own mental breakdown and like IOS line someone at Midcourt and none of that's like an incredible thing to self diagnose and Bill Simmons like a bum will also like I don't know what happened in San Antonio but it might have been a thing where it's like. I've been trying to get this for Like you might see. I think y more just confirms it. Now they have one way. It's it's a successful way right. But if you're not in that way while they traded him for like Wilbur do like they just wanted him out of there but yet once he said that he was He also was like A. I don't guys to turn it off and turn it on. In the first person he mentioned was Rasheed Wallace and I was like I'm out. I'm out because I love her. She Wallace I get it. I what you're saying. He's received was unhappy in Portland and then he left. And he's just a Mr great teammate. In Detroit in their champion now and everybody's okay with that might listen. They were jail blazers. Wash it again. Just be stuck in a message waiting. Don't WanNa be I don't and like there have been countless guys. It's like Oh if you just got him out of that situation I'd Betty aid thrive and then they do like. This isn't like a thing that happened like once. Every forty years Vince. Carter about to make the hall of Fame Office. I'm he hates it to his credit concert. He hates men. Scott the Simmons. The again Russillo was the the main but just to go immediately to Rashid. It's like interesting when a guy was a better scenario. Blake better right I like my only gripe is if you sign a contract you don't like meteor like immediately. I one out that is kind of weak but mentioned it so those were the two once he said those two things I was like. Yeah we're just GONNA disagree. Here he was like nothing is robins like the misunderstood guy he was. We didn't learn anything new about Rodman which I don't disagree with that I didn't know nobody knew this Vegas Story. I don't think now in general but I I didn't learn a whole knew about the bad boy pistons but I still like to watch. I'm yeah I mean he looks like ESPN. This was when they did that. Three par Celtics Lakers series. No Alert Shit knew about that any out anyone other than me. I didn't even complain. I was just like you all that I was sick to watch but it was like okay. And he's like so he's he's I'm so misunderstood as I okay. So he's on Barbara. Walters explain yourself on just percent stood. I dye my hair and all this stuff. Like eight and book is Self Barbara Walters. Right like Anna. I see where he's coming from we've just onto completely opposite sides but those all seem like even more like. I don't like this guy. Not even defending like he's not interesting. By which again. We talked about a little bit earlier. I respect that much more. They were like man. I just like I just don't like did they. Rubbed me the wrong way. I didn't like them. Whatever Oak. I get that right but if you can say. This guy was part of two dinosaurs The Pistons a dynasty. Like back to back and it was something I think Simmons set back to back at a time when nobody it was like Russell. Those Magic Lakers with only gas to go back to bed so going back then and the way they did it like they went. Through the Celtics Bulls Lakers in the same year and lost two games that entire postseason so but it was only two year run. Also whatever whatever you whatever the run I mean they didn't even win the second most titles in the eighties yet like the end. That's the thing is a dynasty right. Whatever what what's the closest you can be a dynasty without being a dynasty Well that's what I mean like. They're his there a notch above like the cavs team that won at once the other Pistons. Teammate WanNa wants the oath Celtics. They're knowledgeable but I don't know without say said I would go. Would you call the Lebron heat a dynasty now right so I would also nobody? I don't know if anybody ever has a run like that. Like Celtics Bulls Jordan. When he was Jordan. Right Lakers and those previous two years. I think they want eighty eighty nine eighty six. They lost to the Celtics in seven. I think like the eighty six like best team ever lost. Offers Finals Eighty seven? They lost to the Lakers in game. Seven of the finals. So that's one of those right. They were like very close to heaven. Three maybe four like who knows that they play the Lakers. Well who knows they might have three of four or six in eighty six. They were to beat. The rockets rockets was upset. So but and eighty seven. I think they went to seven with the Celtics that year. Too like they were going it was. It was a true. Like changing hands is what I'm saying. They went to seven loss. I believe they went to it was six or seven one and then lost the Lakers. And then they got over that next year Pass that year. They were Super Radio and I talked about the it was like the Pistons thing. They're kind like underappreciated into psych. Ma like you went up against like the Bull Celtics Lakers. You beat those guys. You get your credit but you also weren't those guys so you don't get that credit is what it is at the Celtics. What one three in the eighties? But we're in what five like Elliott Elliott with the Lakers. I might add win and lose those. You got to the end The six at the right time In the eighties. One okay. Gherman banker that I think it was eighty three. That was that was the eighty fifth award event and I think it was the year before they got Barclay. If I'm not mistaken I thought it was eighty. Two eighty three the Lakers beat them. Yeah let me. I'm checking right now. Let me make sure. Because I'm Donna. Okay they okay. Eighty one eighty two. They lost in the finals. They eighty two eighty three. They won the final day. One okay. Eighty four was celtics. Here let me see. Where does this a list of Tier Wego champions all of them? I'd much prefer that because I had eighty is I just know. It's just a glut of UH Lakers that magic rookie year. That was over the Sixers de next year. Celtics win over. The rockets eighty-one next year Lakers win over the sixers again the next year. Seventy sixers win over the Lakers. That was eighty three eight three and then it starts. The Celtics Lakers play eighty four eighty five and they split eighty six celtics. Take over the rockets. Then it's late yet. Lakers back to back back to back booze and then everybody goes back to back. Really after that to write the spires Spurs Blinds but never went back to back in wild. It is what I can't believe that I still think back about. I can't believe that he team only went to jam. Beaches in my head always give Lebron four and every town Mike. Now he's only got the because I feel like I remember maths loss spurs losses. The were they just got rolled. That's like I think it was. It may still be the highest margin of victory in the. They were blown out immoral halfway through like game. Avoid I got nothing for you. It was game too. I remember being like will. Surely heat are gonNA figure something out the game four. I don't think they're gonNA figure anything. Out was the cramp game. I think that the heat one and then that was pretty much. It turned into a lot of videos. Like Lebron Twenty. Seven eight. Nine like is really twenty. Seven eight nine hours later. That's how the final sucks. Yeah but yeah. I remember the champs after that the eighties. That's eight but Pistons get there like appropriate Greg. I can't tell you for dynasty but is damn close congrats now. Listen they added. They did a great run of it. I didn't realize the sixers made that many therefore yeah and I. Yeah they one eighty three and I think Barkley was eighty four. I believe so which thinks it. Here's like the fifth pick right after Jordan right now. The barcodes differ draft was eighty. Redraft that Jordan's for sure. Eighty eighty four okay than Barkley was eighty five eighty six now. Here's two picks after Jordan. I'm right sometimes too. You know I'll be there. I'm thinking of that The other bag. We don't talk about how you compare him to Barclay. Well listen I remembered somebody took. Mvp OFF Jordan. He's actually. He's the eighty-five draft thirteen. That's who I was thinking will not happen again. That's that's hand up on me. This was part of why they call it. Obviously it's Jordan game the talk through a Barkley being that that right in the top five Anthony Perkins Is where it gets that. Like argument for the greatest draft of all time stockton too. I also always forget this guy named Devin durant. Who's in this draft? That's very funny. Incredible Hey Jerome. Kersey was in this great literature is that cow roaches POPs. Holy Shit I'll be them whereas a scrolling Down Greg. Wiltshire went number forty three second round to the Bulls and I was couch or that used to play Kentucky's pops sure is the Gonzaga after lot. Yeah Transferred Kazak. Only you and you alone would be like the Kentucky Product. Listen now he being videos for Kentucky he no worries Brands Butter. Smart reptiles seventieth pick way too many pigs. It's absurd for twenty two teams. Get Out of here. There were Kevin Willis mistrial at two hundred twenty eight fix for Anita Eighty three standings. Let me say how many teams you WanNa guess are in the League. I think it's like twenty. Four Z like seventeen eighty-three. Nobody came into timber. Wolves right timber. Wolves magic like eighty they next seven eighty eight. I think yes as of right now. There are twenty three teams eleven twelve hundred West other twenty four kicks in this round so some of that. Yeah okay well. Let's see WHO's next year. This no bullets way older than that. Now Yeah this is it still Lebanon. Twelve somebody double duty. Oh Yeah Philly's got to fix like wow why are they adding an extra pick in the first round picks that is twenty eight thirty teams twenty four thinks the lottery back? There is to see who got the bonus pick starting with like I gotTa Clean Shit Up. Are you kidding me? Well then the second round it goes to the forty seventh picks allies bic. So they went right back to twenty three. That's a it's got to be like a note on here like somebody ask idea. That's very bizarre. Chaos philly's got to pigs but if while famous I sixteen picks the strong. I don't know if Probably what ninety six many others can make that claimed owed three three hall of famers in the top five of this Affects VP's pretty good? Yeah you could argue one guy should won all of them awhile. Correct Melvin. Turpin the Ledge Kevin Willis. Nice all remember Kevin Willis as being really old correct but not he was that deal like didn't realize it you play like twenty years average like a twelve and eight over twenty years which is impressive. Even with the later years bring your average down here is eighteen is sixteen in. Nineteen ninety-one Kevin Willis boy. I sorted this draft by four P- no hit me. Jordan was not one Jordan is one stockton's to with like a healthy lead over Charles. Three Akeem a distant fourth but I was looking for. Kevin Willis 'cause you set them if forty seven in Orono he's GonNa negative one warp. He played twenty one years to tally at negative. One Bam my twenty would have been even Steven Devon durant's ahead of them. What the hell. He's forty I understand what that means. Because I'm looking right now. I let me see yet. Hit from nineteen eighty six to nineteen ninety five eight nine seasons average sixteen points ten boards on fifty percent shooting again. That's a hall of Famer negative Pay You like this is not eighteen will was he just defender something. I these defensive rating numbers on kind. May I'll I'll I'll be honest. Neither is offense. Okay now listen to advance. Numbers Wills was terrible defensively. That's where it brings down his value. He was a negative two point one for his career box. Plus MINUS NEGATIVE office. Andy Defense never mind actually just a fucking opera. Bartlett was the ninety four draught. You before knows it really gets them. Hall of Fame Bas The worst player of all time I this was the the late years just fucking like US consistently according to advance numbers bad at sports like he made all star team he made a all NBA. He WanNa ring for the spurs like in a time where he was playing bench minutes legit bench minutes like it went like a great unique man. I might put him in the hall of fame. He only made thirty one point. Five mill okay I listen we looked at Berkeley yesterday. He made what forty three thanked. The Markley was a net negative. Actually mad e hung on for a guy played twenty one years thirty. Thirty one and a half mil considering he broke into the league. I have his rookie salary here. It's pay eight. Starts the Lakers? So they were but we'll give you two burgers tomorrow for making a shade under three hundred eighty five eighty six so and he never made more than two point eight now. He made two point nine. Wants nope three point six all right so you point you know what it is and I see it now. He was like the most durable man on the planet. Like Games. Eighty to eighty to eighty one. Seventy five misty. You're entirely because of his knee and then came back strong. Yeah Eighty one. Eighty eighty one eighty eighty and was playing like thirty seven minutes. A game during the So these are probably is like cause even like the Dominique Cox. Just probably the fourth best. Maybe like the bucks where the sixers of the aid and just forgotten he was like. I'm doing numbers for this team. That stinks. They stink because he was. They're dragging him down there They played this is why they was losing. They hit there. The ninety one hawks or shooting the ninety hawks. We're playing Moses Malone and Kevin Willis Dogra big goal dominic plant. Some two four wasn't nick was twenty seven and seven so you handling his business. He's I might start picking him on these fifteen dollar teams because he's always a dollar and I never said I was like I look back. I don't think he's on either one of our top fifty loose dominique now. I probably would have had him. Lake right around. Fifty definitely didn't put him on though. That's what I'm saying. That's the en- he had a like A. I would love to know how many runner up a scoring titles. He has because he was in the Jordan era. Because if for a solid decade he averaged at eight forty five to ninety four ninety five he was twenty seven and seven three assists forty six percent shooting. Got The line eight times a game in routinely losing listening dragging Willard's man. Our blaming US nice five is like I'm looking at niks advanced numbers. He's a positive gotta wonder what was going to say. It's even bigger positive. If he was sharing the car with a bomb. Kevin Dominy wiggins is actually the best player of all time thinkers liberals shackle around my waist. These BOB mcclay with a weighted vest. My whole career was Jordan Fella. He's getting these couches. You know what I do for Horace Grant instead of the shitting me. I can't believe spell out every time I met us. Embassy give them Willis Motel Sama Blake. Yeah Big Fan. However it's taken up you know it's not a big fan every number round numbers even numbers odd. That's very funny that was will neak in Jordan. `back-to-back draw now. There was a gap between. That was okay now. That was the eighty three draft. That was the Ralph Sampson draft where everybody was basically just begging Ralph Sampson to come out. Yeah why didn't you use a future pick on Jordan? That was already out. I am it had to. I think it was out because I remember on either reading or seeing the red are back wanted. Samson that way but I think it must have been just like out by bird might might have been like his last Maybe hold the rights pig and they were like no no no off. Fifth Round picks on hall of Famer Labourers Listeners. A kid from my town. He's an eleventh grade eleventh grade. I got you eight around to. I'm just got. What do you want? Iran Iraq every at uses first on someone. Who's actually Ready to come out the rest of his draft on just throwing dial again this gets Roger. Grumpy brides maximus much round. Pick Zuri is my. I'm taking every way kid. I'm taking every Carmelo. Anthony Anybody's like one of these Games is going to be like without question. And they're all going to be pals to the that's what a down league. I can't believe he's thought devender no he was good. I mean willits. That stinky stinks too but yeah I think yeah he wanted rafts. I think Ralph Sampson stated three. Maybe four years because red are back was like like please baby. I'll draft you. Whatever of my kids. My corrupts there. Every year he just gives graphic of what we're we're talking with this. I took Chamberlain's son every day for decades every draft for a decade. Now I'm looking at the eighty three draft the dominate draft. Okay go. He's the all time leader in four. I don't know if you know much about that drab. You wouldn't take a stab who second. There's some solid solid names. I say. Lotta Lotta all stars Mikhail. No this is. I'll get I biggest draft. James Worthy doesn't help Maslin say might just triggered I'm like. Oh Yeah. Yeah the same. He and Hickey also went number one. I remember yet another draft. This is a because I think that's a great time with worthy. Went number one to the Lakers. To the San Diego Clippers took Terry Cummings Three the UTAH. Jazz took Dominique Wilkins and he refused to play Utah. Smart I've always loved Four was Billy Garnett. Is everyone knows. LaSalle Thompson. Trent Tucker Gaza this nature but number two involve was demand picked number eleven in this draft out of Arizona. State the fat lever while right ahead of James Worthy in This draft so I mean that's obvious I thought he would have been drafted. I guess I would like early. Eighty one maybe seventy nine somewhere around there. See that's like I've got it sorted now. There are a lot like ricky pierce sleep. Floyd Mark Eaton Slip Levingston Clark. Kellogg a lot of okay. I remember those guys but not a lot of Terry. Teagle is the worst player in the Strip via board. That's the name that you'd never find me. Drafting THE TEAK. 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Sounds like it's coming but I was like so far I was like he's been more daring than ever seen him. The Burrell stuff was very funny. Yeah that's where I'm hoping like. I think they're teasing that for what's coming up of him just busting balls which would be great But I'm in yeah. The Rodman thing was fine. I thought they could have did more on like Phil Jackson. Honestly well they made. They converted him to full native American. Which is tough you sure. And he was back and forth with our lose. Some fancy Freeman I would I would watch it entire thirty for thirty just on Puerto Rican basketball. Yeah that's what I'm saying like there's some stuff and I like the money said I think Simmons said it to like. There's so much they didn't. They didn't go into the transition from Phil. Jet Like Phil Jackson. Basically campaigning to get the job in dot com of lewd to. Is He really going to get into? But we know Phil Jackson right by getting with TEX WINTER JERRY. Krause loved like strategic. It is what it is it works so I mean without question it worked. I mean they will also have first year so knows him. Krause was on the hot seat. That's right he was never on the hot seat. Doing now It took for the seat. Got Hot I think they were asked to move nicely. Yeah it was Jay Don was like this is what kind of owner Jerry. Reinsdorf is in ninety four like the baseball strike. He was the main one. Argument will if we just canceled the word. Zoos cancel the world series. White Sox went first place. There was a frank. Thomas was about to set. He still won. Mvp didn't like one hundred nineteen games. Iran's door for still like I'm not playing the bug man like I would. That's the level of owner J Ryan Like he don't care about the issue and he said he would treat all six of those rains for white sox world series which is hilarious thing to say. It's well he got. They WANNA know five This before that though he like ninety eight no five he was like. Oh in a heartbeat. Oh It's Jordan. Going to hit a curveball. Instead of thirty a M act listen. It's real easy to be that guy like like Donald Sterling when your last place super easy to be that guy when you're in first which is the best alien. You're just still now that's respectable. Yeah he's like I don't care like do we. All all three of US eight the same guy. If you remove one of these guys and Jay rise over light are here like the immovable one so I have the one You guys speak. I'm you guys. We got shotgun. I thought they kinda very quickly glossed over. Dennis Rodman's suicide attempt outside of the stadium. I was that was another one I was like. I didn't know that. Oh Yeah Yeah just not remember that or listen. If you watch a movie you would know that forget it. What sleep through the guys boring is I went on with Colin Eddie? After I had seen it. Either my goal out of all this. Corinthian is to get everyone to watch Dennis. Rodman's I believe self-funded movie what's a call. How parts of a preview for it on Youtube as I said. We're not opposed to whiteness. But where would watch it? I caught it on fucking fucking like showtime one Random Day The bad it's I WANNA be bad as I WANNA be. Is He himself no? But he'll he shows up a lot like there's a lot of like random asides where he just POPs up he's GonNa Drive Best Friend Hill. He just started up breaks while in talking. Okay I appreciate it. Let's see I I found it like fifteen minutes of it on okay. Does that starts. I'm pretty sure this is what year asking a lot of questions. May I've never seen this was ninety? Eight okay this is what he went to Vegas for people. He was partying he. He had a deadline for Special Air. A SPECIAL APPEARANCE BY CHICAGO EB. This is on. The bus is music video passing through. Ao Quinoa noted. Certainly no flower mound. Everyone knows it intra. I was like opening credits. Really setting the scene Robbins. Actually the running for them biography of Chicago Bulls Basketball Star. Dennis Rodman who is well known for his off. Court and on-court Shenanigans takes great effort paint the Com- decided the athlete despite despite the film title Dennis shown to be pushed by his mama to play pro. That's been the actual summary to play pro ball and go to college where he would get the opportunity shift. Oklahoma faces racism. He's taken in by a white family and goes by long reisman. The movie finally tracks Robin into his wild multi. Hair colored current lifestyle. And Yeah. There's a whole scene like this movie of course based on the book by dinners run with Tim. Now there's like he basically the way this movie tells it he gets discovered like on like a random like playground. Basketball Court believe Telling Ninety percent of people were discovered until like ninety eight. That's Dennis I'm guessing Save basketball here. You got the bomb on isn't it? I don't remember this beginning. All where. How much backstory deserted early laying Is reason I never seen this mom now. The courts play basketball. No you gotta get the hell out of my own okay. But yeah the ONCE HE GETS TO PLAN. I think they pretty much gloss over Detroit to its Moseley about like college and then this is. The coach at the bottom is Liz. My son's good. I thought he six. I'm on my way like there was furious. I won't do it. I want to wear this vast. He's five Roy around at. I knew it was a mistake to play basketball. Eglise understand you cannot wear that list. I know you're pissed again. Where the best. But the first thirty minutes to just about the vessels. Why didn't we added any SH? He's building he's building with listen. Dennis was adamant that we keep in the vest. Yellow House ended up on my television. I I I've wherever it was at least twenty minutes in because I saw that scene so it was at least ten minutes in and I was like I liked does Rodman Stayed Blimp Lane. Yeah who cut this off till Simmons on? I wish we got a scene where he just randomly stops the movie to talk about what's happening because that happens. Frequently durant another durant with Lewis. Is the name. Durant my life three times a day like what? Kevin Durant was the first durant at ever to cure at my life. The old mailbox China it. No one else we've ever heard of is in this movie anything. Any familiar faces white dress. Like oh Ho Ho a troubled. He's Tall Oh boy yeah. This looks like trouble. Where's your best vest? Boy I maybe at all steep their own. I wish there was more this. Surely it must be somewhere exit. You put the bomb a boy who had to have it now. We gotta make this thing without question. I find where he interjects. Work in the fields would elect Tulsa man. This is bad news. Oh Man Look like Dennis Rodney story at all. How about now what Madonna? I'm guessing now we're not even there yet. I don't think deemed the Madonna impre- sure at the biggest t-shirt of Eric. It's barely hanging on just showed. Ira Gov. This is the the whistle. Yeah well he was just like drunk or something just having a bad trip or just just going through it like I really. I didn't know anything about this again. I learned it from this movie so I'm not the person to ask. I know he was robin expert before. But yeah this shock out on the floor this. I remember vividly referral boy. You look for vast brooks brothers closed. I mean I believe all this happened. I just can't believe that it took him going to Oklahoma. But he's in the League at this point but I mean even then like just the like the early stuff. Like the summary. Raiders is like where you get experienced racism in Oklahoma by a La Oklahoma twenty years. He did where this atom yesterday in the actual right now. They didn't make to the house. Nothing Les Dennis Rodman. Now there's a lot of Madonna Arrigo more. I remember far too vividly. I was like eleven other excuse. I love it blacked now. There's only one guy that would never make black. The rest of the ninety seven bulls elect Jordan. I it doesn't cost that much of a star down there. Hell yeah it's gotta go go last year five. Yeah we'll we will have to do this entire movie. Got Egypt. Low Air without questions. I look at these Spurs. Oh Man. It's just clip bars. Were appointed to Lakers Lakers. Might actually be wearing these next year. The final scene is like we've got some on the phone and that's Michael Jordan on the other end but actually she won't know who's supposed to be Michael Jordan would love it shows on like the phone rings four Dennis and they handed to Dana's Robin he's like Michael Jordan and that's one of the movie and he mentioned that point he was. He was out of control of San Antonio. He took his shoes off during a playoff game. I was like Donald Trump. Did He Throw Their D. R? You know they finished filming. Listen I WANNA make a hundred million dollars day. He was like no. This is my retirement says. Might You keep limbaugh like a dummy. His real life daughter. Who KNOWS DO. I'm so happy. The whole on Sylvia's they automatic. I'm worried this is in a different language. Which if someone translated this movie. We read the script reenact the entire movie. The facebook group about this boy. Bad as I WANNA be. All Time is uploaded one month ago. Oh yeah now. Somebody Smart Mount Borders Fault so worked up what will surely not be taken down by any copyright infringements in asa get Dennis Rodman's people going to see this editor you. It's an hour twenty four of just he and off terrible. I'm the only person seen it and this guy who uploaded it did Rodney. Ah uploaded we mean a guy who will upload any our grant Babba I wanNA make Box Office top. Nine hundred ninety eight was that it was titanic. The win those three won. Best picture unanimously. I tie I did learn. The documentary. Wouldn't about Rodman though. No make you all guests. I knew like the Scotty Migraine game and I knew it was a playoff game. I I did not know it was like game seven eastern garbage finals. Oh yeah terrible. Timing a bit not know that so like that year. Yeah they lose in seven there because Jordan Pippen and Horace Grant do nothing that game. That's the pissed that's one of the Pistons Rings. They just roll up the Blazers who the Bulls certainly would've rolled off without question like are we look at. We might be looking at seven. Oh in Jordan. They also said it. And I didn't know maybe they said it during the documentary that Cubans Data Dad like a couple days before that game. I don't remember them saying that migrant game yeah they certainly didn't say last night without That would make some sense interesting. Michael Jordan still wasn't buying it. It was very it was very funny. When they brought up the game Jordan migrant game and that the end he was trying to be like. No I get it. I understand. It's hard to play the mongering fucking Posey came right. I get an reconvenes Women get those and John Brown. He was landed on thick. But that's one now we're Somebody would have a hot take in that everybody would immediately turn on it person like you don't understand mental hell migraines are nobody. The Bobby Dodd like days before their game. Apparently now that's a tough but even the way he was talking about it because obviously I've lived my whole life being like. Yeah what a pussy but actually thinking about it like having a migraine in hearing like the slightest noise in your brain. Your whole body just hurts. I can't imagine having a migraine. Those bright ass lights shining on you thousands of people surrounding you screaming at ailing too. He played forty two minutes. That game I didn't know that like I knew he had beginning but I thought it was like a I couldn't go. He played eight. Forty two. So Rodman govern you as I couldn't even see the ball and Minima Jersey so yeah I think I think this is so far. Looked good for he and Jordan and Pippen yet the tip. I got a lot of sympathy with the money thing. I know. There's a lot of shit he'd get sympathy but he has gotten it yet. He's look good. Jordan's looked more human krause looks terrible. What can you do? Terrible can't say shit about S. that's just the game. I think reinsdorf should get more flak. He's the guy that I can't believe it's not getting more flack Another also didn't realize What I hope they get into game series five for five magic last playoff series. The loss of the Pistons lost anyone. I didn't realize it that was that was his last. He got if that was June ninety one he announced he was positive in November. In a pre season physical. That's how you found out. The Lakers dynasty came to an abrupt halt. Yeah and it was like he was he won. Mvp In ninety made first team in ninety one. And I looked like he was thirty. One steph. Curry's thirty one right Steph. Curry is coming off lake like if just last finals it was just like. Wow Yeah he lost and now he's never gonNA play again but he has a disease. We don't understand off he'll be back four years maybe yeah. He goes overseas the Scandinavia for a little while. But he'll be back but I I didn't. I didn't realize I thought magic was a little bit more on the other side of his prime when he was coming down but now like the year after. Mvp May first team smack DAB added realized that and also in Rosza Debt I. It was like the Magic Dandy literally didn't have another chance right. I just had no idea. Yeah I think because I think because of the way bird out and he kept holding on crew. The early nineties was just shelve himself. I think that gets lumped in with how magic left like how he might not been the same thing now he used to. He used to do when he came back wasn't he? Powerful names is like you coach the team a little bit and he was like yeah man. He scanned in Scandinavia. Which I never knew until today. Yeah that I don't know. Yeah he came back for also I did not realize when he came back the last time he played thirty two games. I did not. I didn't realize he played that many he was thirty more. He was thirty six years old. He averaged a fifteen six boards seven assists on four on forty seven. Thirty eight eighty six shooting. Which shooting two threes again? This assignment. Thirty six after one. Two three four full seasons all with AIDS with HIV irate. It in eight eight it wouldn't it wouldn't a Viet Nam. Some light but yet like the ninety nine hundred seventy nine games. Averaging Nineteen seven boards and twelve and a half assists is John. Yes Oh boy. Oh boy like you know. Many those pre season physicals like they've just done in knocked out come on. Do we really have to do this? Come on a magic. You should sit down to be fair to him if if he didn't get that test and just kept playing would like anything of James Too. I mean it's one of those we probably wouldn't have found out until it was way too late. Like something really bad happened like nothing even on the court by something like in the training room or something like they just didn't know his blood sugar. We'll forget firstly would have given it to like a thousand more women minimum so that was a lifesaver but being. Yeah I like. I know he's been able to throw money in the best of medication at it but I always feel like he's just been beating it with like Biz mind with his own will. He's just been putting in a headlock for thirty years. Now I'd say like he like he's one of those like vet level of positivity by grab Yes so not everybody would but I agree with you on him. He's just like what you lose oftens. I'll like a like. It is what it is like my left with a little bit bigger than my right like HIV. It is about handsome. Don's there were and then I'll come up for EJ. I mean how is and lows on but yeah I really had no like. He lost their finals. And like there was it and it was about to go into a new. Kareem was gone I think worthy was. I don't know where he was on that team worthy. Sleek I won't say overrated. But you talk about right place right time bedtime. Oh pick in. It could have been dominique. Wilkins come on man. Has anyone any number one pick ever been asked to do less. You know what I mean like airline had his listener tire task list. We need from you James Worthy one running fast break got you. That's it just running fast to do not contract the HIV virus. This guy. He's still have to answer the birds. Oh it was I wanna I WANNA make sure I get the year right. He got busted. I remember this from the Jordan rules. He got busted with a prostitute one night while he was playing home on us. That's what I'm saying I. If I'm not mistaken he might have played that night. You talking about. He's talking about big game. James and I remember because in Jordan November Fourteenth Nineteen Ninety where was arrested in Houston charged with two counts of solicitation of prostitution using the city with Lega for a game against the rockets going to the police. Prior to the game worthy caught a local escort service requested. The two women be sent to meet him in his hotel room. Unbeknownst to worthy police have shut down the escort service instead they sent to undercover vice squad officers to the hotel to me. He played no contemplating pled. No contest with since one year probation founded thousand dollars order to perform forty hours of deserves. That's tough assist a tough break. Yeah right of all. The man is imprisoned in Milwaukee last night. But it was at a site like that would no stain. That's how you can really tell these friends on opposing teams nowadays like Mike. Love telling you I can't call a nine one. One easy girl like he got hardens like man come up come out with me man. I got you. We're not going back that the game was giving up the sting trying to get magic user. I got worthy as good enough. Khalif Magic Magic. Just know the ones that call. Why don't you tell me Maggie? Schedules like forty stuff their keys and do his mailbox service at the at the hotel is. I've never used the service that was November fourteenth. He did not play that night. Next Night Against Indiana a twenty one point six board twenty nine minutes just back on. What did they travel shit? Of course it wasn't day between those. Okay yeah but he got him sent to the room when they had to be in Indiana like three hours while boy man. I E yeah. He only plead played. Twenty one to thirty two primary of the Jordan rules with the night. That happened everybody in the locker room was like dying in Jordan. What periods like Carolina does this boy and they were like? Yeah who knew where the always like the double team like Jordan was furious because he was hot. Bill Cartwright at somebody that's very funny rhetoric. The ones I'm you get one over on Joe you to do a better yeah. He's not yet dr early sense. I legit quit talking to Barclay overstreet. He said over announcing. Oh Yeah like. I didn't know that looks like real for real but yeah Jordan is not one to be light with the grudge. I I get if he embarked. We weren't like friend friends. I would get it but I thought they were like legit and I think they were like legit friends. I think that's why Barkley was like I say it. He said he didn't regret it. Use like I'd say it again so I don't but if somebody's small did that yeah. Lilia JORDAN HATES LA BRADFORD SMITH HERE. I go I'm told we do get some La Bradford Little Red. I hope if he's on. Espn like if that got him for an interview. That means we're getting them for full episode. Yeah reach out now. I will say listen. Even if he didn't we should get him to happen. Tell us out of the story right. You're lighten his ass up Talk about where we get. Jordan had to defend himself. Correct the one thing that would get him to come on yesterday last night. Riles like is Jordan. Like an all time ask you WANNA get out just like yeah but also no. Because I don't know what the Fuck Asset Guy. He has already been asked by the end of this handful of questions. Something related to light berets. Some berets some into the early eighties team. Because that legit. The traveling coke circus had stitches like yeah. He's he's peeling back a little bit the onion so when we get when Kelly Martin Michael Jordan has been asking her for literally literally like three years Getting every time we're like you said an email like what a time to strike. You know we just. He'll do media right for yet is Tuesday. He's just on mixed eight Michael Jordan episode in your into one episode us the sticker. That's easy money. Easy actually mad though. I'm fine with that 'cause he would. I'll say this he would even when you saw in good Jordan. Just he describes things very well. I don't know what else to say like described like teammate. What they meant to him in that moment I what. I was trying to win the game. In that moment I was wired that way and because for like a hundred years I was like I don't think Michael Jordan has a talking boys like I think I heard it wasn't like ninety seven been. He didn't appear until he bought. The Hornets are like the wizards to the Hornets. So yeah he's come on. Who ELSE IS COMING? Up will obey. I think they say Burrell's back to come off really well in these next. It's a staple in this program. So I imagine so. Sure the one thing that always kills me about documentaries like this is the level of footage they have those appoint last night lower inside the huddle fill is like in teaching Michael Jordan Pass. I was expecting to say me on as someone else's name a little Fox that guy and appoint filled with a risky boy. He knew he had a roll those dice but the fact that they had not only just a camera in there. But like you could here. Everyone we get the finals and you can hear crystal clear with that ninety one as camera. That was genuinely shocking. Like you think of when I think of stuff like this to I was trying to think like. How did they go about making this documentary? Lila's footage like Jordan dogging from the free throw line not hard to get random for like there's times where he's talking Rodman on the court about like switching over screens. He's like you go up top when they yeah like who found that while they're making this you know what I mean. How well labeled is this shit? They can go back and find. I think that was because they had wanted to do it forever. And when they finally got the excess like they agree of one hundred percent full access to everything. So they were like. We're GONNA record like this. Is Michael Jordan like woo? I'm sure there are hundreds of thousand out but yeah when I would listen to them talk about Jordan Jordan or pippen and Rodman. Just talking defensive. Schemes was watched video on it. That talking about what they had for breakfast like three weeks ago. I do think my favorite part last night was Jordan hitting the Cleveland shot. Michael Michael Michael Michael. You stuck it revolt that you guys in the studio stop everything else. It is really wild like because you could see like people really like Lebron James now nobody. I don't think anybody's are him like that reporter wise. You've stuck it Y- yeah. He went through so much effort for that. Listen he got up close he got. He's like I got a call from Michael Jordan. I can tell my editor job well done. Yeah no listen. Everybody should be more like Steve. Run on the court immediately. After the game. Michael Pushing Phil Jackson out of the ways. Yeah I was. Tom Richards The Cleveland affiliate. These dealer wait a minute. I'm sad. Now he he had to be like the the windhorst he was he was. Chicago'S A SAM. Smith really wasn't Jordan's winners. But yeah they got access they were gonNA record is probably footage that we've got hours and hours and hours of Michael Jordan Tying issues before a game but we just went to cover our bases it just one time. He said something. We didn't have the Cameras Rolling Jessica as time went to I was like what was right out we might have. Why don't we want you the limbs so I like every time he takes a piss? You get every copy room recording everything. Yeah that's where he got the idea for the Mustache. And we just don't have that lost history. I want to see more more team plane because I feel like you even like the worth like the Bob Cats Team. That won four games feel like their team plane. Had some good moments. Ophelia would have been the best team moments implantable. Thirty eight and forty four hour. See the wizards team. Like seven hundred fifty nine n es WanNa see who's like your that's a level where it's I get so bad. I don't know if we can be realized friends like that but at the same time. Don't sit next me on. I'm not trying to Plano cars would you? You cannot have my number eighty points again. My I'm hard overall pick this year. I cannot do this loss four times since I was born. Lost Four this cat this week. I'll I'll say this random I don't think. Mta GETS enough not even credit for that. I don't think they gets factor in with him that he yes he went straight into. Organization was like Tink. Tink tink didn't give guidance. I is it would really anything. Invested him eating really get any help. He never lost his boil. Board we really do just suck is awesome. The good thing is getting to the first five years and also control for the next up to four after that everything going up. Kidd Gilchrist seem cagey show. So next week I seen I saw fights last last night is a big dumb idiot. Being like he's like Pippen's Rodman's back on the Pistons. I was like no need so I guess there are some people who are struggling with the timeline. Which they're telling this yeah. I think that's fair. It's one of those I don't think about it 'cause I even if I didn't I get actually that'd be unclear. I guess he looks completely different. And so does like the film Quality in both respect the johnny fiber he's white and Robbins Black. You know what I mean he coming in. It wasn't he was wearing ten man. I don't like I don't use where ninety two man man. What are you I didn't know that we talked about this earlier. I didn't know the thirty. Three's in his hair for pippin. I thought they were just Cheetah print I saw Rodman shoes getting a lot of love last night. Like Nike needs to retro lows. I think we're all right all right. But the converse wants to with the Star on. How far are we going? Pretty sure they have those yet. I'm trying to think if anything else next week. It looks like it's the Dream Team Centers. More reason shit on the Dream to an Kobe unaware away. I saw that they teased on where he folds into the Dream Team. I think it's gotTa be six. I'm guessing I don't know 'cause like three or four related till good better decade Robbins Rome's bet like ended at eight so if they do five and six get through like Dream Team and Kobe. Coming into the league like okay. I could see that. Is that like a does that. Relevant to the ninety eight bulls. We're GONNA find out. I guess like if you're talking about like all of it I could see like the competitor stuff or like challengers Magadan like this kid was. He was good he was nineteen. Like I'm in right now like yeah because as all time is Kobe is. It wasn't like he didn't enter the draft like Lebron. Three people knew him and even more so on the basketball world. But it wasn't this national hysteria. Like Oh my God. This kid's in the draft. No it was a thing where I do remember this at everybody. Who had like seeing legit? Seen Him was like this guy's going to be great right again. There's not that much information about how schools out there at the time. His legal right. I was trying to think if he came up in the mix tape era like his book so different than like just the way plays like he had dunks of course but like jab steps like what is this You'd have seven minutes. Said that draft express violent on just like footwork post footwork. This kid is in eleventh grade. Terrify speak three languages yet. Kobe's running teammates in the walls in like races. Like a be right. I don't need to be in the mix tape air. That'd be on to also think completely just because you brought up that music. I really respect how the NFL draft still uses like the Chris. Berman highlight music Yeah now when when you strike gold. Yeah now it's quite the tune but here in that for two hundred sixty over money picks I didn't get sick about once as a classic instrumental I still. I kinda want Roger Goodell to host more things now do you everything just Jose market sweet but Roger Goodell chopped magic host. I would just watch the. Yeah come on San Francisco better than that if I have cheer cheer or Boo. Can't say the car is like yeah. That's right with orthopedic. I've eaten some Adams. Dude and doon. Doon Doon did we get that noise this year. I felt like I didn't realize I really did. There were two different broadcasts. Really was the savvy broadcast and the football broadcast was a Saturday when ABC. Yeah I could see that I was like I didn't like 'cause I kept seeing people saying like Bourne suffers talking about it. I thought they were doing like post like announced lake. We're doing live coverage. I thought it was only the ones I got the Sad Shit Bay but then I was like wait a minute. Why DOES IT EXIST? Who was marketed? Russillo and Simmons. Dr Better sound like those pieces on like College Game Day. Do really well people started. So it's like I get it but it's because it's like nine minutes of a two hour show not yet every minute of a three day show too that credit but I do remember that last year too. They were like they're trying to have a broader appeal one. That wasn't as deep into football as much which I can understand. Especially if like you don't know like if you. Never Watch College Football. You have no idea about these kids like sense of from. Baylor like that's not going to do anything for you. Do get it but based on how they decided to handle it this year. Don't get it the thing is you remember like I wouldn't remember Elliot remember him you know. He lost his parents. Or something like that when you give me two hundred and fifty people. That lost their Enough not to make light of it but I I was legit like I can't like between like Chanel. Mathu gross models like I'm getting the story Here's some wild stories. Yeah Okay Yeah. Now I remember him from. It's like Gazza. They do those stories like twelve years ago. It was like nope still remember. That guy now is very disappointing to me. disheartening did. There's a broadcast like because a lot of rich people would watch that one was like. Oh this is. That is that we've done here to that. Yeah like wow. These guys millionaires. No thanks to my doing. I feel good Chris. Getting INTO IT WITH NEAL. Brennan know about what it could be literally anything. Corona virus. Neil is neil a trooper now Video that was just like people are disproportionately getting treated for this out of. Chris deleted aided that coward. They might have blocked until he deleted. Force Design Chris Julia. It was based like nail twitter. The video that was just like Chapelle was at some other people are not just like. Let's grab put racism on pause kind of the message of it. Sure Chris was like respect. A million should shut the fuck up right now. A wrong Brennan took offensive. Well again. It was like you're right man. You shouldn't give black folks covered test when they need them are as anything. I had this shit and meals like there's no referencing to quarantining in the video. It's an anti-racism video. No mention of Glasgow money. I don't know what Chris said that Nielsen. I don't doubt that it's nauseating to see rich. People talk about what you should be doing promises from a decent place. There are no good options available for anyone in this damned if you do damned if you don't He'd said something earlier to like if like if I don't say anything people like aren't using it platform when I do think people like you should be using your platform better area wide. You stop talking. Yeah Not Romney Yeah. I guess Christmas particularly fed up. Today I could see that he got taken down by a little caesars deep dish who Chris. What did I miss with Chris? Quite a day. Here's like now told me how God task it was trying to eat. One of these bad say is heavy. Man Oh yeah. 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I mean we we just got to agree to disagree on now on like our lives are different and it's a lot of different but but I can understand that You know if you don't really buy with that you know coming from from the big Nokia it's like the bay with a raise core. Don't that Yeah it's gotTa sit down like a theater. Down the seating is below the court Is is a little different than it is in other regions but it has a mystique to it. You know our fans like it in a little different with the danger. Dan at the end like anywhere else that I've ever played been but again that really affect us because we still have become the sidelines and be. You know an an analysis coach boxers. So it's cool and that's the point. It's affected us. We've had some bad losses in that building. I don't like it better. Got Bring that back. No no no no you can keep it right where it is. What was it like Having the season ends so abruptly like what? What was it Ben? Like talking to your players talking to to recruits. You have common in next year. How has been managing everything? We're all going through right now. I mean it's obviously it's different man. Everything is virtual now on the recruiting You have to do everything online. Known soon has been extremely popular useful. it was tough. You know just abruptly stopping everything in season because you know even though we lost the last game next update Sec Tournament. Co still felt like we were on uptick in things. Were starting to bill for us. We're excited about our off. Seasons will not only just getting back into the strength and conditioning Guys getting a little bit stronger but being able to do individual workouts. All those type of things where Has just come to a halt. And everybody's doing everything on their own right now. Hopefully guys are being responsible in being accountable is still working on the game or on their body so we can once we get back. We'll eventually at that had an SMS. The key benefits you as a like. You're one of the younger coaches in the SEC. in college basketball really like the virtual aspect of Well I think it's for us. It's tough to get the kids on. Campus one fisher investments. We had a couple official visits set up for forgiveness that we were recruiting throughout the year and finally waiting for the season was over now. Citizen was able to get them all campus in the neighborhood. Rabid Komo campus so Showing them over slides and different things like that is still affected but it's not as effective Dan ban on their Getting feel been able to interact with the students on campuses. Just seeing what is like you know in the spring here as well as time during the. When was it in your career? I know after you're done playing you're doing some TV Markelov an analyst work when you're like in your in your lifetime career. Did you know I want to go into coaching? What I I don't know if I knew that until hours Maybe still plan it kind of you know. I was a coach within the team. Image because again that a player on the team and You know having to understand the offense state every we WANNA do defensively Just I had coaches that always good at plays whether it was Rick Carlisle Doug Collins had understand the nuances of high office. Were and then toward When I got with Avery Johnson in Dallas you know it was similar to a lot of the things that we did back in North Carolina as far as defensively. You know just so I was. It was good to kind of be back in that element he gave me. I was older. I was one dollars players on tame and he gave me a lot of rain. They have a voice with team stack. They just tied to hear. My voice sometimes run film session and things like that. So I think from that standpoint I was like okay. You know I I know the game. I enjoyed teaching. It had my age appropriate on my son was playing like seven and eight grade and I went to a game and you know saying they were just all over the place man who is just you know. Look can't I can't I can't watch this help. The situation a little bit so I love the time off season so I started at team with those those kids and watch them get better better really quickly and I think from that kind of got the bug or being able to share what I know in and watch the kids. Get better from obviously trying. Mistakes don't do the same thing do as I say. Not As my family you let him get on. Don't don't do as moment of you're Washington Redskins Fan. Is that correct? Yes Sir I guess is. He just geographically man North Carolina before we had the panthers right. That was kind of a team. That was the closest geographic for us. was to was arrested From brothers to my brothers once they graduated from from from college they moved up to the DC area so we always spent a Lotta time in in the DMV. So the rest in 'cause they were risking fans. I guess I just kind of guided by the fault of the. I grew up at a couple of times. This crazy been rescue advantage. I Say I am now but I lost some of those Dallas Cowboy teams right. Let's like making those two words in the same boat when Tony Dorsett was kind of my dad when I when I was younger but then again like I said I followed my brother. The rescuers do your brothers know. You're saying that you love some of those cowboys team. And don't tell them does three man. I won't make sure you edit that these our moms were going back to to the recruiting aspect. But when you transfer going back to when you were that top recruit coming out of high school. We just saw last week this. The current number one player in the country say he's going to the G. League Jalen Green. Is that something that you would have considered had been presented to you or were you always since you are North Carolina Guide Nag Nam? Just going to UNC. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA follow. What the State does I think. My initial thought was coming out of college. The early I was coming out would be you know after my junior year. Right you know Michael Jordan at his junior year. I'm actually come out the earliest that after my junior year. I don't think there was really any you know. Thought of like gone straight from high school to College. At that time it was about like College Basketball. Ms It he wanted you know father did. I was a big Fan of college basketball. Acc Big East. You know I was catching all all those games and one one. You know we're going to Georgetown Right Lovejoy John Thompson. And what he's doing next week it was you know I was going to do you know. Then it was North Carolina. It came when I went to oak for that senior year. Not My family not being able to get to the games as a as frequently as I would like and they were like I was like man five makes me go back home and then it really came down to like North Carolina North Carolina State D Smith. Again the the track record that they have their players going to the pros just made a lot of sense for me so I wind up staying close on but I I. I really can't say that I would have thought about going to just witness in my mindset at that time even though again like just a year later. I wound up going Anticipating leaving a sophomore but it presented itself so to say that. I wouldn't if that you know that would have been presented to me in the time you know I just. I just can't answer that. You know honestly right now. Who who committed? I your receipt idea. Resume where you're just like. Hey come with me you know. We were like we knew that they were being again. It's like land crazy thing like with North Carolina. I don't even know if I 'cause we were like. They had won the championship in a long time. Right I think last year was three So he is ready to try to come. Help them get over the Hump you know van got go go back and then they win it that year so it was like. Oh Man But I was still committed to North Carolina but I don't know if I'd divided known at the time I might. I might have done something different. Honestly just because just like they accounted gotten over the hunt that that we were feeling like we were coming in to help them get over But she came with me and Jeff mcinnis who played together Nokia. So I really enjoy with him as Dr so it was like it. Was seamless coming in with us. Three that that freshman year. We like you know. We're always gathered live together in the dorms. In those always the freshman freshman freshman invest. It's Kinda hot is a North Carolina that year. So it's a tough year. You gotTA CARRY BAGS. GotTa do all the things you you go you get water last and once you know what she finally do get to the water cooler you only. They're probably about ten seconds before caveat everybody get back on the court but it it it it builds some some discipline man and you know kind of break you down to build you back up but you know at that process Denison. Oh so as you Rashid and Jeff mcinnis in the same dorm yes. I know you got stories. Come out of that. What what was that. Dormer live leads the series breath four one. What's the most? Pg Thirteen when you can share as mayor De. I can respect Bertha. Let me as a coach. What do you think about guys? Have an option to go to the G. League to go overseas for a year But what do you think of that? That option in general I think is a great option for guys man. Not Everybody's for college and then I think you know coming in and doing these kids a disservice. A lot of them come for one year And whether they have great success or not you know where to leave your program in a year and then. I'm not saying that will get you know wanted done. But I just don't think best fit for for us. I mean being academic university what it takes to get here you know in the type of student near the commitment that you had to take responsibility that you had to take up to this point. Just be able to come to this school. Does you're gonNA leave that in the year just is not a right fit and we kind of want to separate ourselves a little bit a little bit tougher. I Walk in the gym and say okay. Then I love his game. He fits into what now you know. You gotTA check his text score. GotTa get a transcript. You gotta get those things so I think For us a little bit different but for these kids in general. I think it's a great great avenue to be able to have options. You know if you're not again not school for everyone that you don't feel like I want to go to college and work toward a degree to try to better myself I can do so. I know my path is to play at the next level at the NBA. And I can do something there to really enhanced. My game helped my transition be a little more. Seamless why wouldn't I do that? And I can get paid for. That was not pretty lucrative deal That was able to secure. You know through the G. League and Then integrate city been in La I think it's a lot of creative ways that they could could could play this. I mean I think that salary could possibly be a part of their first year salary right for ten because we all in business together It can make it a little bit more lucrative. All you get the undergraduate adviser that gives these guys that's coming out in the draft where we're potentially you get dry. Ns a pretty good group. That's giving feedback to those same numbers of telling guys were there. Slided you know could help you say okay you slide it in a one to fifteen you get this amount if you slide it fifteen to thirty you get this amount. You know thirty forty five. Give you decided to come this route. That's where you'll be slighted and that's when you pay scale and possibly could even get paid your rookie year. Right was getting money now to survive. But it'll be deducted from where you get drafted and if you don't get after we just have to sit back and think about creative things like that too because I bet on both sides of with our players union and now those players G. League players go hit some representation. It's going to be kind of funny to see how that works to represent these group of Info High School. I guess because Energy League now and they're going to have to fall into that representation which I think would be good a sense you. You have history in the G. League as a coach talk about the developmental process. You had with Toronto that that you instilled in guys that you see now playing out in with the raptors yeah state man development is a is a huge part of Oliver Game. You know all these guys are not finished products yet. You See. The best players in the game is still had to come into the league and Learn League Learn how to work probably never worked at the level a habit for him and they thought they working high school. They thought they worked in college. Now it's you know these guys livelihood you know so you can't come in and be something that you treat or something a right you gotta come in with the passionate of saying look outward people because this is what I wanna do for a living so I think just from you know from standpoint. You GotTa make sure you're ready to work so your older brother played in the NBA correct. Yes how are you before you beat them one on one if you haven't beat them yet? I mean that's my alley had to stop playing man. We will get into fights boy got you. I know it was bad because he was such a competitor is the great great score And and I was I was young bride and you know quick off the dribble and and all that so it got pretty testy so we just gotTa make sure we were on T. I mean on the same team team two to five five and whatever but now we were super competitive but the now man we we have some battles bro. Enough for sure. Now are some of your players. Are they aware of you know your history? Like Kirk Snyder Christian Laden are they aware that like listen to what coach says man? He really he really not the one to try try. I think you know you can chalk that up to being young and you know and and hopefully we all mature had those moments but man. I think it's good. We we know who we are arming. Think our guys I mean they got to whatnot and pretty sure they google millions and seeing some things that I'm not that crowd of but at the same time I think it's all comes from being competitive man agree like you know there's nothing personal. It's not one kid one guy that I've ever gotten into like I hate. That guy was all stemmed from something competitive and then hopefully in August those type of guys that I i WanNa win you know I want. I want my team to win. I WanNa beat you knowing that if you know that other those guys on the other team if they had an opportunity in the choice to say okay. There's no happy for me or don't have it for you. They will say it's going to happen for me so we gotta have the same mentality and But back to your point man about to declare development. I we got a little bit but I think it's huge. I mean that's part of development Development competitiveness and. I think you know through that process. I was able to work with you. Know these guys just be no Pascal Fred Vanfleet nor empower. Those guys those guys that were sent down during the G. League you know part of the new development for them and they came down with the approach working right over those guys that were holding a head down because they were sent down to delay came down to show. You know I got no business here right. I belong back up with the big club and I think that was the way we approached. You talk to them how to play still come share the ball do what we need to do defensively because we were you know in a locked in. I wanted to approach things for that organization. So I think that's that's where it starts. Man is being able to have a plan right. Not COMING IN WILLY. Nilly but really having a plan guys. Weaknesses are what their strengths are in charting. Those things so they can see improvement in hopefully Do over the course of time. You start steer gradual improvement over that time. Now you talk about developing competitiveness which I interesting because you look at a guy like an Andrew wiggins and that appears to be the biggest knock on him like he doesn't always WanNa be there at the Anthony Edwards coming out at Georgia. It's like those always when he floats a little bit. Do you think competitiveness is something that's inside of you or do you think it's often that you can kinda develop and draw out of a player. Yeah thank you can think. Is You know some guys have it right? Some guys you know for whatever their background growing up things that they did At the park some of it is in you but I think it can be taught at the same time and through your work. You know come. In and being diligent you know and and then steady you know saying being consistent everyday coming in with that with that mindset You you know once you just to build like there's GonNa be a habit where those guys is not really in them. They're going to quit right. They WANNA WANNA stop. But we're not gonNA stop you know saying he can relate. You know we're gonNA keep doing what we're GonNa do it over and over and over the monotony of it. The redundancy of it is what makes you good in makes you when it comes to. The game is second nature so I think that process of doing things like that every day and having people around you do that every day. And you can build competitiveness and maybe not to you know to the level of a guy to just you know what I'm saying. You know this guy was heart and breathing and you see those guys right get up. They're gonNA fight you cough everything but I think again having proper technique and and the wraps you know that you you you can get guys to compete at a level other than than what. They just have innate ability. What would coach Stack? Tell Rookie Year Stackhouse. What would be the first thing you post yourself up on man out again. I just if I knew what I knew. Now right DICTA again of reps every day getting them you know at the at the practice working on your your ball handling all the things that you just don't have enough of again. I'll come in playing power forward to North Carolina. Pretty much played a forward in high school and in college right. I really was a guard. I never had to handle like dad play. Pick and rolls until I was in pros so those are the things that I kind of learned on the fly right in thought and did that level door. I became an all star at it. But that's not start when I was nine years old as a point guard right guys that were five five eleven in all of a sudden they you know they jump up to stick six right. I'm Kit Taller for my size. I was kinda thrown under the basket as we know is key is. We're at that time if you were six. Thought YOU WON'T BE A center but I hate it as much now. It's like you we. We try to guess that we kids now you know. Probably some of those big land begins needs to be on the basket that veteran out to the three but I think a happy medium there right. You still had to get those kids at six five early. Still teach them ball handling skills. I think those are the things that I would tell myself to. You know to work on. War got better as a shooter. Just because reps I can probably had going into college. Might have two thousand fifteen hundred reps going into the pros and then they say what mastery is ten thousand so I got. I got eighty five hundred reps that I gotta put in to get to where I venture. Goddamn right this time. Shot at the shot repetition. Doing things to the where I became in more than in a mortar average shooter but I had to work to get to that point so I said those those were the things that I probably would have focused on a little bit more and you know that I you you came into like playing the mid range shot was like king you said you played for. There's a lot of two point shots so you've really got to see the development into like this three point crazy. We're how do you? How do you balance that as a coach Man? I loved the three right. You know and like I said my game that I played you know for eighteen years in the NBA. I would hate it my game so interrupting the offense to try to post up off the block at the time played on that low again of play. The man's ball. Yeah we got a really rapid out about driving three. Everybody else spaced out above the the free throw line used to have like it was legal defense to where you were in above the free throw line so I mean it's it's just a different game so you have Roman staff balking ice. Oh and do all those types of things but now it's just you know the game has changed more freedom of movement more office and like I don't discourage the you know the two point shots again. I think it's time place for everything like you get a great shooter. They run you off the line and there's only three or four seconds shot clock or even less than that. 'cause you get one dribble pull up but I said there's eight seconds on the shot clock. That's put a little more pressure on the basket again. You know get into the paint again. Either get a really high percentage shot at the rim or we might spray again and get more bang for. Buck so You know in analytics. Play a large part of how. I look at the game more than coach. Now by telling me this has a player. Man Like is much of his free throw line posting up getting his blocked in a little bit off the blocking post enough and doing candidate. You Know Clayton Pull UP Games so I think it's just a different game right now but different errors but I loved all all errors was enough to catch those You know the early early nineties in two thousand and two game kind of transition to where it is now of you know pretty much three. Indeed you know or you utilize at three get to the paint and stay away from the long range tools you know not everybody's to drive to that theory but I think when you really start looking at it that those shocks just seem like date night the you know transition because as you drive in the ball you have people on the weak side of trying to move to different spots. If they're trying to move to those spots in thinking that they're gonna be out for you you take a quick pull up. They're still getting their Bari. Kareem's off balance. Yeah the floor balancing there so I think if you get to the pain a little bit more put a little bit more pressure on the rim gives everybody a time to to have you know defensive balanced. So it's it's important in we do. Is it hard right now scouting like high school seniors? Who all think they're steph curry regardless of position whether or not there's still shooting the basketball it's at a premium. I mean the guys can make it at a real real. Click on those deals special talent. I just because everybody's shooting a three right now. That means that they're making it right. Yeah so the reality of Man. Sometimes you just got to ask yourself man. Why how open for Proudly because they're trying to bait me into his shop. Can I have the discipline to turn down this to get us? What we really won't understand personnel and all those type of things. Those are the candid conversation that I like to have with my guys again. Some guy you're gonNA give miss sometimes right standing in the corner guy's GonNa Miss. You my whole Mahan up then you could be exasperated because the goblets me. No you're GONNA miss him to get back right so I think those are just as much as you teach the game you teach at you teach how to be a good teammate. How to do things Because it happens and then at the same time the guy with the ball man come on if your job got. His man was on you pass. The ball is you know but it is. It goes both ways in. We try to make sure that we Tisdale's first of all this. The ones that I've learned that contribute to win a man then able to to share the ball Moving make extra pass. You know it's the final play. Everybody gets to touch it. A little bit in the ball still gravitate to the guy's really supposed to have a couple more questions will get you out of here. I do WANNA know. Who's the most famous person from your hometown of Kingston North Carolina? It's a pretty good brasler. Co-lead mentioned Andrew Wiggins his father Mitchell wiggins assume. They're Dwight Smith of the CATCHER's from there Brandon Ingram from their cornbread. Maxwell Reggie Bullet Tyrone Rela- Ham Yourself Jaime Pressley. So who's WHO's the most famous partisan from from Canton against have you gone by? Today's standards would follow with our price. A Braden this right again. If you guys all go back to your hometown who's ever on the most who whose name is on my side. I fit the bill is one name. My name comes up the most you know because of just the the longevity I think we have a number of great players and Maxwell you know he was the guy that that that we kind of looked every played alongside my brothers so for him to go off and do what he did with Boston. He was a hometown. He wrote Saying that I went to North Carolina. That was that was huge for my city. Then being city North Carolina but Reggie bullock those kids that follow Lee. Now have a another recruit from from casting a just just committed to North Carolina so we got a good little track record from from my city and then going to USC. But I think it's in a not too long horn man but now June away catering they they know who welcomed Kenniston home of Jerry Stackhouse. That's a faster Jerry Stackhouse. Absolutely what So did you grow up like a borderline celtics fan because a maxwell or no yeah I mean who really loved on Cast them but man Like I said it's why you tell your powerful guys word with my guys like everybody was MJ Alexei rightfully. So you know but for me my game and how I want to play with my back to the basket and make quick moves to the basket and up and under drop steps man Kevin Carroll is that do and and work you would that quick baseline spin so I think those are two guys that pattern you know post post for. That's amazing. Admit Mikhail might have like the deepest bag ever when it comes to to post moves yet everything and then at the saints. It was hard not to be like. Lakers showtime right. He's like You know because he got a hometown guy there but man you know magic you showtime and Magic as pretty good. Hey Hey so it was a you know. We went mad that the celtics wine but I was disappointed that the Lakers loss Celtic Stock House. One interesting thing just looking at your career before we hopped on here Dark out while you were. Teammates scored fifteen thousand points the game before you scored fifteen thousand points. Was that something you guys knew of at the time where you furious at him. Did he not bring you a plate of his wife's cooking because of it like what happened during that like one week stretch though? You're just just ironic. That the timing of that happened in the past cross man. One of the best players have played for owned by shooters are played for Competitors but just just having fun time just milestones like that not a lot of people get to that to that point man somebody. The other day I was for a long time I was like eighty five. I eighty five. Eighty six on all the time scoreless. All the people that have played in a league own eighty four eighty eighty four people had scored more points to me at at the end of my career. Livesey some guys who have surpassed in now. I'm Mike Number. One one one but again still only a hundred people in the history of the game so It's is man. Look back in and see how blessed I being able to do what I love to do. And this is helpful rises to be able to do that. Nicotine to transition into Giving back to these kids and watch them better watch them have dreams of going to the next level helping them with that process. Air New Smith saving those guys declared for the draft and size our responsibility to try to help them make the right choice. Whether it's the great fit for an agent a great fit for financial advisor They have medical things trying to push them in the right direction. They need to go so Fortunately I kinda have a blueprint what it looks like in In more willing to share at last question I have for you. What ARE THOSE JERSEYS? You have behind you. Ooh The fifteen stackhouse guy. Sarah symbolic because it was like my takeaway grassroots coaching which I felt was very valuable in my processing. You know the fact that played played for eighteen years. It wasn't like I was rookie coach protecting his first year as professional coach when I was assistant with the Toronto Raptors and gave all the Best Jersey for a year to start and Jackie wraps I okay yet where we're at four two and this is this is Mark Yard Yours that game. Oh Warner you just get casually. Yeah see that tech a friend of mine That G. League what did I. Biggest supporters are fan Corey Smith. He got this for me as a gift. You know right before I left. He said I mean. I gotTA gotTa get you this guy to get you this and I. I made sure to put it up so authentic Jackie Robinson gave Corey my information a really really good friends. Great fans out to Corey. The last thing I have and this was great. I mean I feel like a Taco for the day but outside of basketball used to sing the anthem frequently before games. What got you in the singing hat. Did they approach you about doing that or were you like? Nah Not playing until you let me sing the anthem no contract. I think it was a you know how they had media day right. Nbc Media Day. I think had a microphone on court for doing something and I just grabbed the microphone. Started a sing just messing around doing it. All like Owl's on and then but I kept going with a little bit and then the the Er girl at the time before Dallas Mavericks shooting stack seeing the national anthem. I think I know you sound amazing. So she gas me up. You know what I did pretty good. I was always singing in the locker room. All the guys knew Kinda Mar- be and so I was Decided to step out and it was a Laker game. They were playing the Lakers and step out and did it. Man and from there The Katrina game happening in Houston Katrina Relief Game. Wanted someone. Staying Stephan is saying they're saying it Milwaukee when I was there in Brooklyn of Became something that the teams that I was on big aimed at tried to sing on. Lost was Walkie against The Atlanta Hawks was only loss. That's pretty good record. Though you'll take that we more nervous for the first time you did that then anytime he played basketball man. It was so nerve wracking man. You're not like you can play in front of a hundred thousand people. But he's like man. I did want these words so the first time it's like I don't close my makes you live and I got a little teleprompter behind my listen highlands at work. You know it was cool. Anything else you do at one time getting getting About a little bit your feet wet now. I felt really comfortable doing it from their own but I grew up in church man. My Mom and dad reminds a mess to my dad's Deacon in the Church and so He was acquired leader so we just grew up around music. My brothers and sisters. They were all big music lovers. So it's just something that was going on in our household you brought up the R&B who you who you most likely to sing after a game before a game when you warming up. What was your favorite thing to say? Free throw line or just you know like I know for predominant out big on that John McCain right okay John Neo. Yeah I like the old school guy you know I I was. I was big on knows. Now I like I like Chris. Brown Trey Songz Jockeys I think those guys that you know on the playlist right now. I'm on across genres man. You know when it comes to rb hip hop so I get a little bit. Alison when whenever you Walter McCarty when you get him playing the saxophone whenever you guys WanNa drop. The duet album will be first in line read. Hey what water guy pipes and got all. Listen you got it all you know depot and there you guys can get a real project no doubt. Yeah Yeah Oh yeah yeah big big big asa pipes to man you had to collect you know connected to a little something later on down the road we got Jerry Stackhouse. That was a lot of fine. Thank you so much. Hey coach at Vanderbilt University. Look FORWARD TO HAVING JACKIE. Sing the national anthem at a opened up conference play next year. Jerry thank you for joining us man. This guy may have you to say safe.
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I wanted to teach tonight Corey Coleman over here Mr Martin Thomas Going and also we have missed the hops in search shot all right it may be so that's like a chewing tobacco that sound like that cough drops ah new craft beer shown. Oh man how y'all doing it'll be talking about the boys also much to the dismay of somebody. I'm sure we'll be talking about this Moore. Yes yes yes. It's supposed to yes. It's supposed to be this week <hes> door but it is it. It is not the move so we're not doing door. They sent me an email. Cynics won't be as <hes> well. They won't now are we'll spoil some other uh-huh they read that review from that's all right. We got a Blur Blair all the breasts yeah we gotta get this week for the horn as booze to cool down a little bit review yesterday that we talked about four door explorer Lord reporting on the sexualization of youth going moving yeah. I don't think you've talked about the same movie I'm looking. I'll look into boots and maybe swipe swipes or close is looking at boots and tedious when do that Sir but yeah no door to me. I'm looking at the rest of the show. Can you find hear somebody swiped ship to see that Fox walking imprint but in that place place we have a trailer for the new Martin Scorsese movie. Irishman are aren't allowed drinking N._F._l.. That's racist. Mrs Gomes the Mars Racist Doc but true. I'm part Irish the toenail the bottom flask is Irish. Also we're gonNA bring in brother. I was hoping he was gonNA show up last night mark too much to start your own going on man oh too hot up in here and let me see got enough. Sway me ends up the only memo in Oh GonNa try to review the talked about in. I don't even talk about the much I'll leave it to you man to things that we can get to it. Okay a documentary that you saw. Oh One nation do that see we can talk about real quick of the funeral farewell there you go okay so we you just go travel to China tonight. Yeah Man yes bag man a little taste of the Orient Tonight and let me see here and it's going to be brand gully. I'll talk to him do an email section and it's going to be a full night's a nightmare this thing I'm GonNa talk about. It's kind of move related Ronald Reagan Mad g but no I know it ain't going to be moved related. I'm just curious how he's reach back. It is it is he was in a movie accounts. I think you going to stretch and get you to play Reed. Richards flexible. Yeah got a lot to do tonight so I'm not gonNA take a whole lot of time star of the show. I wanted it kind of jump right into things but before I do let me go over here and say hello to. I'm giving you guys another love. I don't feel lately but you should have been getting back. Gosh enough appreciate it Tom but the check TAT tat. How Ya doing today was going on your O or does everyone is fucking move? He watches the trailer and goes man. This is so stupid and I thought he must be quoting. Somebody are not what the hell is going on. You jeeze Chris heirs heirs Chris what Chris is why. Are You writing your dissertation in Chat. Let me just read what you know what he's saying about Joe Islams but COR does is with every one fucking movies he always watches the trailing goes man. This is stupid but I know stupid and I accept that I'm just GonNa go and accept it and and have a good time I know what I'm getting into and he comes out of the movie like men then movies so fucking stupid what the fuck man I just couldn't go with. It is so stupid this series. Mary's has lost his dot their mind. I wasn't expecting it to be the stupid like mother fucker. You know what the fuck you're getting into at this point are you should he's calling you. Motherfucker know that'd be like bitching and moaning about all the live action Disney remakes and then going and paying to see them in the theater in any way. I'm like like what the fuck man well Chris. You can get the fuck out. If you know me so well right now the fucking go come in here and talk shit at the start of the so bitch too you know Oh hey if you know so much about me but you norm about to turn this shit oh you right now. Did you predict that by the fucking you're now right that I'll give you some mess to write about your bitch if you don't like it says you know me so will the fuck you watching for now right dash in the chat. I'll sit back and wait right that whole. fucking little travel went on right there. I don't give a fuck. I'll wait right right now Komo there. There's another one mother fucker says she likes to say like that now. Let's see what you get now. Look what you've done. I kind of predicted. We yeah well fuck. The Swami Ninety nine got down Swami the fucking yeah. I tell you what what you pull out that crystal ball to predict yourself. Shut the fuck up once you do that for everybody please. <unk> says she knows them. The funny thing is you never said that with this trailer. I never said that with this trailer at all never said thing and not all these movies. You Act like I'd come in. That's my whole we'll review Mirza so stupid God. This is stupid. Why is stupid man? I don't WanNa Watch this. I'm getting Outta here and shut the fuck up you end up Chris. Shut the fuck up seriously man. Thank you for your patroness around here. Thank you for your support but seriously shut the fuck up and kiss my black ass you. Thank you know me so oh well I guess you did you knew this was going to happen. Then you fuck Outta here something here talking shit at the beginning and I and I'll bet you. I bet you wash review tonight. Not Please stick around. Let's see if I'm going to do exactly what you say. He's fucking stupid. Get the fuck Outta here would they. I think we're GONNA have gotten infinity gun. You always call him. You know get on the phone right now. Let me ask you what the fuck because wrong with you. Call me on skype right now. Since you call all the time let me ask you what the fuck is wrong with you. Get on here right. Now you WANNA talk. Don't talk shit in the chat. Get fucking skype and call me right now. Yeah be a man yeah yeah exactly now so she would know me so well. Please directly. Tell me about myself and smelling yourself. You got hair on your. Let's make the call talk to me man. I'll give it about a minute it. I'll Wa- I await your call sir. Now you gotta give it the leg. I've only called twice to all right. I've only called twice for emergency well. This sounds like an emergency. Man Sounds like I'm not GonNa do a proper review for you sounds like I'm not going to do the show correctly. Please please. Let's settle this right now a long long long as long as rent you think I'm reading you. You ran it any chat room. Yeah look at what you wrote and compared to what everybody else in their wrote just lengthwise. I think wrong with you. What's up yeah? Exactly what what is please. Please sorry I was pleased with is tracking. Hello Yeah what is please tell me what is up I was I was joking. I was trying to make a joke now. Oh Chris. How're you doing mm-hmm? I saw I okay hold on. Let me pause the show because it's going Ivanka Fuck Chris Chris Sheri's me I can hear you now. Seriously I mean you know I'm GonNa mess with a little bit but you know I'm not that fucking known for a little bit. I just want to bring out just in case there were some. I was just fucking with you too. There's no beef put a household. You know we look man. I know Komo doesn't want to make sure the love was eight months mutual. Don't worry I noticed odd that wanted to bring it up. I don't know that I mean I. I really have fucking with you. I'm not I'm not getting mad. I you know I just can't let nothing like that. Slide in the middle go. I'd be like okay. You know I can't deal with long as sitting at the beginning I was like let me let me check on this real quick. I really mad but I had to say man but I would never do this at the middle of show okay but at the beginning yeah all right how you couldn't I'll be. I'll be honest with you though I wondered if it was joke because I see them put that up there before somewhere somehow but but I didn't but it didn't feel like it did know kind of just came out of nowhere. It'd be different if they're view has started already and my defense you sir did give a little bit of a sneak peek last night you. Did you know what you're right. We did no I. I consider that no we did know Oh. Actually you know what we we did. I mean I didn't I didn't sound goofy like you may museum stupid but no and your and your time though you're in your defense yes we did kind of you know we did a little bit lesnie Hugh to bitches all this back and forth and then if I told you I'm GonNa do that when I don't do that to him anyway. I was playing when I wrote it. Suddenly everybody was playing yeah. That's what ours is called. I was playing with matches expect to burn on the house mom doing she's doing fine. Everything's going great. I just got back from grandparent's house. Grandparents grandparents GRANDPA GRANDPA is doing good grandma's doing good too. We mostly just hung out read Watch T._V.. We wanted to go the beach but they thought it was too cold <hes> even though it was like seventy five degrees out till some until you GRANDPA Goddamn man is man. I'm kidding man. I'm kidding with degrees. We come back to see as man honestly. That's not in the books right now. I'd love to do it sooner. Rather Donovan later like maybe make an annual thing at the beginning of the year I come down or make a birthday tradition or something as on the mask and when you come back for you know even just one time of year you and your mom very cool. That's all I'm asking. I'm sorry the cath making me laugh right now all right well uh-huh Chris as Sir enjoy the show I will all right. We'll talk to you later bye. They re enter the Olympics backwards running. I'm looking at my hey now. He's a good guy he's again. I like Chris. Christie has actually favorites really yeah. Believe it or not was should I hate. It's tough love. Ah Okay no man. You didn't hang out with us when he came to town. Yeah your tongue. I wouldn't a couple times. Mom is actually the coolest man. Can you dig it the most I liked him when she was here of them. Were here yeah man. Her shirt should a hamburger together. Did you translate two thousand. We actually take a bite. No locked arms man like this to the bite from her hands. It was groovy wimpy and eat hers annuals high outdone people was going on and let me see we get Carlos is bay. You Go Felix two point on how you doing exactly feelings. All the Wakefield is GonNa come in the room and I said well shit good to see you. Though man over there let the revolutioin may kicked out yeah did all by yourself man revolutionary yeah on top of the Capitol building flinging the pretty much. I saw you on T._v.. T._J.. Lena goddamn thing in a role everybody aw look at Krista stuff flirt with my mom or never always when you're much shouldn't be so cool that does she cracks Oh. Oh now Chris you good man. I know you I knew your car. That's why I wanted you to do. It could be little tidbit for the show you know. I like the kid I really do. You treat people like that. I like what I don't say Shit. Let's I just sat down and just saying nothing. I've been around people like that to be going to town. I tell you this much. If you ever come to town and I sit there. I just don't say anything thing to you joke with you ask everybody to do. They WanNa be except you then as win. Yeah Ah that's been you know. Bomb yellow meadow is and playing around and we good good just like the rest of you out there. 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I won't give fuck out big yielded canard one day. It just went off in days in canard big dog put Myers M. Choko in put my ass to sleep which is probably what he was going to need to do to make the fuck. Did you shut the fuck up. No and I like it man. No no you just get something in you. You and you just won't stop exercised. No I need release Carlos Carlos. That's what I want you to be upset Chris. I yell at all these people. I don't think of your the T._J.. Is You know why 'cause T._J.. Guys since me me he does C._J.. Not Come in and just be quiet man. He's mostly quiet. Yeah I mean he'll sit up and stare. Julia isn't a weird kind of way but but he but you won't say anything not the noise is not distracting his vibes. None in I'm just kind of looking at me could stand at Lincoln yeah well. It's exactly like I don't mind you you like most of the time he's laughing and having a great time and whatnot and it's cool because I actually actually I I work well with his energy. You know the balanced officers but there'd be every now and then you know everybody laughing and everybody just having a good time moving around and he's in the middle of it just looking like what what the fuck is going on. I guess everything you say laughing in Shit me. Oh but thanks everybody for coming in today. Join US for the show. We're going to have a good time today and one of the things that I want to tell you what I was GonNa. Say this near the end of the show but we'll do this now. We'll do this right now. I I am going to go ahead and announce the winner of our lying King Fan art contest using saving up to the end of the show and as you can see we got four pieces of art right here we got first of all Miss Za`z zoo by lamb. We got MIA me a Fiji by Fernando Merino Very Nice Marla Martin the Hyena very appropriate got your new shirt and hat Martin and we have corey there simply core the Li- li- I'll tell you what makes you yelling at Christie's Shit. That's the main things I had to who you're talking to in Chris slaps me do duty you. They have so who the winner is. Yes right all right. Let's go ahead and see who the winner is. Once again. Mizzou Viki Martin Hannan Corey the lion and the winner is if I look at the results and let me give you a drum roll Martin behind us sixty eight point sixty six six percent with a close second by Mia Fiji Twenty five point thirty seven percent Mizzou Ooh third place in oh core the lion pulling up the rear looking for me because he was last it because he looked crazy Mesa scaring everybody away kinda creature from dungeons and dragons like Griffin medical doctor Dr Moreau yes or a Shitty Halloween. I'm a lion and I love that picture though gear ICAN I like it to know I love it but you probably scare people off Gary Vo Familiar. 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How're you still bothering you not as bad as yesterday not as bad as just today you can breathe good for you man so you don't know what you suffocate in the middle of this show me to help oh come on think of the ratings would be good got a man China die on your show? Wow live whatever's shoot. You wouldn't kill you all know better. Oh let me see here. They'll be mad at did it for the show. Did it the ratings when you told me you said surface but I brought you back all right. Let's go ahead and get into the show right now because we got a lot to do today. Okay a absolute true story and it's funny that had happened right before I got here so you know the in-laws here and the brother in law came over Yeah brother-in-law Mellon we were sitting outside having some dinner man and <hes> Meli brought up he asked me <hes> you know <hes>. What movies are you talking about about not brought up <hes> Hobson Shaw how connected to the fast and furious universe and he says I just I just watched the first one for the first time and I was like like we just a couple of days ago and I say you don't you don't even know that a new one was on? He's like no not didn't have what is that and I said let me just just ask you one simple question so you never seen any fast and furious movie after this note and I said Ooh well. Let me tell you what this was about uh-huh he what I told him. I told him mushroom plan. We're not told him what what what happened since the first movie where we are now. He's is got so big look like it looked like he woke from a coma. It looked like I just told him Michael Jackson. Undying Cosby is a rapist. He's like what he's like. He really looked at me like okay. What do you play the brother said yeah we go from street? Racers decides to us to spy hunters to super spies to practically superhero. Yes yeah to to science fiction films fixing. We've we've gone from street racing to cy this with this and I looked at him and you know as a fine thing like if you all remember the first fast and furious man it was nothing but people in the streets said this before and you know to to get where we are now whereas in the streets selling bootleg DVDs A._B._D.. Boosted from trucks the boosting deep did D._V._D.. What was it what was the four WH- V._H._S. These V._C._R.? D._V._D. Combo yeah from trucks from trucks and now they're out here. Stop and secret organizations from the government who affronted by cyborgs and we saw this last night I was with a friend I hadn't seen him in a while. He only seen the first two movies. Oh Shit even meet even from the second one second was still kind of is still racer ninetieth but you know I looked at my brother say hey man so Zeno change. It's a good thing man you know change. You have to reinvent yourself to stay. Alive can't keep doing the same thing over and over again this world where no the big movies going to have just one. Everything's by sequel. Everything's about universe. Everything is about trilogies all that you ain't going this just like potato chip. You can't eat just one. You're going to have a lot so chain. You just can't keep doing the same thing over and over again right right the sound you changing and you're doing the same thing over and over again at the same changes. Good are is going to take a look. Eh Well Heck Martin. Let's ask Oh hobbs what they think about it and then we'll be back with our review. I'm with the future of the necessary shelter the system human evolutionary change superhuman the bad guy you know I gotTa tell you something when I saw this trailer and they were talking about Sepa haven but at thought they thought it was higher than watching another movie. I thought it was watching a science. Fiction film like Idris. Elba was in a parody. No I swear to God I was like really because we joked about like and I thought that they had heard people joking about. I'll may go to space. It'd be superheroes superheroes. If I and I thought that they actually would like a riff on that oh I thought housing shaw with like Hobbes watching a movie with his daughter and I thought that this was going it was going to be like he was watching this and it's going to pull back and he's GonNa call. There's going to be like oh now. Here's the real moving into starts. I didn't know this shit was actually going to actually be the movie we watching okay so you caught unawares also talking about and I saw the first trailer okay. I was like oh I guess we going with this. Mission has been uncompromised. We need help. Target's name is Brits. He's a ghost we're gonNA need could best trackers in the Business Lucar. I'm what you call an ice cold can it will pass a law. That always gets his guy. We're GONNA need to operate outside the System Decker Shaw. I'm what you might colosseum buying rogue former six agents doesn't play well with others just if we stand a chance against bricks you guys have to work together no way this job requires still. I'm trying to say the world which put the record the one time 'cause. I'm really good at it. You know what we deal with sure they WANNA war. You've got one remember me AW shucks will kill. We go back Guy Speech Martin movie the One Joe we'll kill you know. Don't get mad with joking joking. They were just being sarcastic. Marley shut your fucking mouth but that seem when they go off the side of buildings especially the Iraq too so willing to jump dive off think about that scene in that movie the other guys yeah when he just missed him. Samuel Jackson SPLAT splash kingdom yeah yeah of course I did because that movie knew that kind of thing is ridiculous in this movie. Don't give a fun. We do what we wanted to other parts. I I love the way they beat up everything including gravity in logically if physics they beat the fuck out get out like take a nice soft landing and he's talking about how he hit the ground without splitting on the concrete that's because he told grab it and get the fuck out the way boy he beat the grabbing on his way down. Oh man and I want you to know that I am completely one hundred percent behind all the craziness and insanity that goes on in these films now might not agree with everything but I support it. I'm not I'm not one's going to sit up here and look at movies and I know what they're supposed to be what the goal is and what everybody's going in there for and I'm GonNa sit back nitpicking crusty ass Coleman. How could you watch such dribble? Mit Picking Nitpicking Coleman Field Picking Nits man picking is looking at people where you going going to stupid movie was wrong with let me show you all the reasons why it doesn't work three and I know I admire. I am the one that listen. I you know and Ryan was right. You Know Ron Ron. We actually had a point when he says yes. I have come in and said I know know what this is and it was about. I might not agree with Al like it is dumb and everything yes. I have said there. You had a point but I don't have anything against the movie going from its roots being out street racing movie about you know the skills to be in a a James Bond for Bros.. That's what it is. I mean come on because listen. They even listen to us and I know you're listening because we joked around so many times about them going to space right now in the studio and somebody said you know that's. That's a good idea yeah when asked about it. He's like well if they don't go to space. I'm not doing my job yeah. He said I'm looking at this report. A Lot. <hes> intimate weekly fast fears writer who has been writing all of movies. I believe says he's open to sending the franchise to space and in with Ted Danson yeah why not my everybody else join the family. There's a poorly place to add the headline G.. I think he's going to be there. You Never Wanna Ted Danson his space come on everybody has been you know the wonder bar at the end of the universe still bartended mar what is everybody's been asking for in fast and furious <hes> Ted Danson no man and they said I'm not opposed to it. You know what as long as they go to space cool in you know as long as we make it look cool as long as it's awesome they can do anything we don't care and I'm fine with that man. I'm in rounded up dinosaurs from Jurassic this is that I'm glad to hear that because that just brings us closer to them teaming up teaming up with optimus prime and gang in going to fight Jurassic Park yeah that's the we one step away from Wendy's arrived the T. Rex aboard a one hundred percent four. I don't care me in the series. I'll tell you because of the series I have respect for something that has evolved to this point are some would say devolved at the you know Whoa. Let's just say evolved in devolved at the same time this fall to this is like a person who just keeps getting superhuman strength but their brain just smart smart little was going next evolution me family you me ride dinosaur space and you know what hard and Shaw that's. That's what you get man with this you know they they've gone from street racing to James Bond imagine imagine. I want the movie for you. Imagine we got James Bond mixed with the W._W._e.. That somebody just dropped kilos of cocaine on this that is kind of what you have a man complete league com complete with they specter secret society. You know a daughter a dark a luminary type society body that controls all media. Maybe even some governments felt like they would just tack and things on at that point because it was it was enough that I pay we have the ultimate bionic man you spot zealots and they grew to a global conglomerates. That's the aluminum naughty eh we control politicians like you guys to positives left. Every organization is controlling politicians. We've we've Gov street racing into the illuminate controlling government in James by secret society and this government controlling entity global entity just can't take out two guys now. No I mean because Martin for one on you can't kill them. No matter what the do do these. He's almost like well. We can't kill so it no matter what you do don't believe that's true even bleed. I'm telling you did they do a fuck. Fuck being muscle and bone made a rubber. I gotTa feel that the rock has he hasn't revealed it yet but he's got a force field because Jason Statham is small so you could see how a bullets might miss him but even the poorest marksman. Even a stormtrooper should be able to hit the ruck yeah because he takes takes up a Lotta space yeah no he does man oh. You're right about that. You know we get it with eaters Arab and that's the thing with this man. You know like I said that's look if you're looking for a whole a whole other level with this then this. That's not another level. I don't know what it is because does this is not even like we said this is not even action moving anymore. This is vited all dijon was to come on here. Yes let the door by Oh y'all come on in Oh. I'm a fan fantastic job. I think you look amazing in your matching outfits by do's I yeah shut the fuck trying to impress everybody. Jesus suit him. I guess simply take you first yeah the she fucked as cool actually the outdoor going on that that is probably the most realistic part of the movie realistic the smartest the smartest thing now. I had to say to that and you saw this. He's he's a CYBORG DOC man. You saw the cybernetic things in his eyes when he's looking at people sizing people up eaters Elba's actually he's actually really good in the film. I mean I liked him. Not Everybody's all the top optus move really like Elba in the movie. I'm just like hey you know you're working working working win. Did you not like I think he it was better but it's just one of those where it's just not the kind of role where you praise somebody unless they've been fucked up a lot and you go oh you know what he he was good or you'd never if I'd never seen him before. I'd be like Oh that guy was yeah he had something or but but no one what a great actor is. I'm like Jesus. What A he's just A? He's going to make money from it so I'm happy for him. See a check. I'll look at absolutely I look at it as wow you took some of the Sylla's as material and you made eight something which he did you know that true professional manner true talent no matter where it is that you're working with you actually make legit he showed up and he gave a shit he he he wasn't like this is so stupid. Why Am I? I'm not I mean you know he's effort. I tell you I'll tell you what it is. I look forward to every time I saw him on screen three okay. I thought that the guys just charismatic that he's he's he's able to carry immaterial just on his star power on his charisma <hes> which I which I liked getting people housing is just that I mean overall like like you say he's not bad. It's just this is there is a point where for all they front-load this movie disappoint. You can't help but recognize it. These characters a flat yeah yeah because the characters I mean yeah no air by going to four to the Combo of Hobbs and Shaw agreed certain point they are flat in everything and this move is just completely bombastic in the bombastic bastos fantastic 'cause they're talking about they talking about it's funny. They're talking about making a fast and furious animated series. I'm like why <hes> the shits R. rated. Cartoons knows a matter of fact when the ending I was I felt like man. If my memory is better. I could tell you which episode episode G._I.. Joe They they copied this from all of them. That's why you came by one. That's all up because that was so G._i.. Joe I and knowing is half the bat. You know it really is meant that this this is it is it's a G._i.. Joe It's it's a lot it's more of a judge Joe. Move Actual linebacking judge O- movie eaters snake the only thing and a half bucks eaters L. But do I'm just kind of like what the Fuck Y'all GonNa make an animated show for to make them more realistic they tell you I I think is great that the genre bending here you know I think thank is great that they are willing to go this far and just you know do things where you can't even recognize what it was two movies ago three movies right seriously. I think that's great man but it leads to the question. So why do we have something S- as insane as this yet if feels like the same old shit I know. Do you know what I'm saying. I know exactly what you're saying because hey I you know I those last couple movies especially seven. I was cheering them on yeah. I mean they really went for it. It went Lonzo as much as I watched the trailer and I wasn't like who is so stupid. I can't wait. I was like this shit looks dumb and then when I saw like you know what it was but they took it. They totally went forward. Yeah I had a fun time with it number date at that. They kind of faulted back was like it's kind tired and this is fills more like that where it's a says a continuation of something where you guys you're you're putting in more for but it's not really evolving yeah in that. That's the thing with this man. You've you know everything is pushed further harder more over over the top than ever and yet you still feel like you stand in the same place and it's like it's like somebody who's in the same spot and they just spin it back yeah faster. They ain't going nowhere shit done that. You'd be talking to Chris airs but I just Watterson I will it's it just it's like somebody's spinning and spinning until they start throwing up and it's like yeah but you in the same spot you in accomplish not yeah yeah. Somebody's like overweight. All the way to this new thing I got a new thing is just doing more what they did before now. This is where you dear viewer. You say I don't care. I'm GonNa see this anyway and is what we say. Nobody stopping you stopping you because movies so hyped hyped right now. There's so many people looking forward to this. This is being touted as being the one. That's going to save the movies that the summer movie slump is going to be the one. That's GonNa make you know a billion dollars in the first weekend and I'm cool with that. People can get very defensive right now. How most anyway anal by did know by tell you not to go see a two three times sinn? Go see it to your fucking brain. That's ears that is cool in in obviously you know and they're going to say A. Would you know what I've been saying. What did you expect you know what this is okay? That's fine but obviously I at least I've said I don't have a problem with the direction of the series. I I don't have a problem with the insane levels that is going to you know I'm all for the success of this of this series because people like it. I have no problem with it even even making his money and I'll tell you this. If it is a big action that you're GonNa go see that you want to see what this movie it delivers you know it kind of goes back and some parts to the starts and in some of the the street chases in the stunts cars that made the franchise so popular in the first place close transform is best team Democrats woman settled effective man. I'm telling you they want to have motorcycle that he's on a might as well be transform that that it's like his motorcycle like like the motorcycles not around. He jumps off of OPPA. Something in the motorcycle just shows up like a dog just pan. Oh Yeah Yeah there's a point where it wasn't even around. He whistled for it and it just pulled up on the motorcycle. Actually soda going next motorcycle stood up on one wheel the motorcycle it's actually cool to fake man when actually is when wouldn't that motorcycle transformer motorcycle shows look up telling you they want to do a transforms fast team up so oban and judging Bob what we're seeing right here it seriously need to happen. It needs to happen. I've never been so serious about taking things to a stupid as level as I am to work I mean neither one is going to drag the other one down. If if big stars who play the same care removing is your thing this is for you is here and I get it man is fine because I mean they might play the same character but like eaters l. but they do have charming personalities. Oh He's gotten to where they are right. Now you know in a dwayne Johnson and Jason stay them. I think that they haven't fun together. Yeah I mean to the point where I seriously thought that we're gonNA find out that they had the love interest in the movie was just like really man. I say this all the time but I I've never I've never met him on the do now. When are you going to fuck each other? All won the fight each other desk just to actually have an excuse to touch each other you know hey hey baby you going to say later I can wait. They are funny together. I get it man. Dan Do get it so you'd probably say so. What is the problem which damper on what is your wish you gotta do I don't know about probably can you tell me I don't know I do know? Actually I know exactly what it is. It's only pushing action there. There's so many things in here that make me excited in the trailer that I looked at the comedy that was in the trailer. I looked at the chemistry that was in the trailer. I looked at the you know how it was going further with. You know it's ideas isn't even no matter how crazy they are an and after watching the movie it does push the action as much as it can but that comedy that chemistry of some of the other even the you know taking this to a crazy level that that is <hes> not pushed enough. You understand what I'm saying. Yes because the thing is positive things I can say about. This is a well produced movie OBI. It looks gorgeous. Action is well done. It was David Leach Leach who did a John Wish I'm wicked so he knows how to put these action scenes together and yeah these guys show up places and it all looks slick and it's gorgeous <hes> A and even the vehicle stuff is exciting exciting and that's all great but the between the chemistry and the comedy of all that it's like yeah it's it's there. It's it's Kinda. Surface <hes> the barbs eight thirty each other pretty much by the second half of the movie ages devolve into stuff two two guys in high school playing the dozens on each other and not even that good at it yeah well. You're do head which yeah it's just that you know what to me the problem with this movie the Big problem this movie or sorry the biggest problem is that is too long as two thousand was in if you stay for the credits like two hours and twenty minutes yeah and it's got about twelve singers on it so where that <hes> but because it's too long like like an hour and a half would got in had all this cool shit happen excitement and over left like wow but going to two hours plus plus it's enough time to kind of sit there kind of luxuriate and how this is not. It's not really doing anything new. It's not all that exciting the kind of dumb the the fact that these guys can't be I'll. I'll meet can be killed. I mean they can't even be injured or <unk> hurt or scratched. It takes a lot of tension out of it. It's like well. You're taking me from one thing one crisis to the next but not really early crisis. Is there something to do well when it's not yeah one we had the the Lincoln there and when it's not actually when it's only pushing action only I mean as big as it may get as spectacular as we get. It's still chases says an explosion then eventually we've kind of seen you just laid it on even more when you do that. What happens is I start to at least dump things and I make fun of in other action movies? It gets those things that I noticed on the action movies that just because you know it's here in his bigger. I'm not GonNa let those things slide and you know we talked about this last night. It's hard for me to watch hinge moment just stand around and get their ass beat when they got guns. You know what you're right. This is your what's the matter you got a lot of bad guys might not do. Oh you gonNA pull that Shit Shit out now. You know you've just been standing the whole time just Bob. We even like you really going to do some and then and what what gets it's me is that you have this this big long as hallway that you can run down to the other end and pull your gun out and cap this motherfucker but you WanNa get right up on and when you know you're going to grab you and break your alarm twelve guys behind you rather than let's all just mob him in Russia him. They're all like you know. You're going to go now and you get okay. He's okay my turn. I'll go after about twelve guys behind you also with guns like this motherfucker and don't get up on them this closer you can just get manhandled here for once. I want to see somebody. Apparently this you got to do was I talking talking is big shit and they're ready to go in and kick. Everybody's ASS and kick the door open ages light show and so I was going to shoot shooting but the script says I got a writer and his contract. I can't shoot him. Oh shoot him. I know you're not supposed goes to sit in here in question real world physics when you watch these movies I get it you you know like I said it got point with all these moves we know the deal at the start of the movie the very first frame gravity physics and logic they just get up and leave yeah. They say we'll be a starbucks in the movies done well. We know where we're not needed yeah. You know we're getting the coffee. Just call us when it's done. We'll be back. I'll keep my phone <music> but God dammit. There's gotTa be some consequence. There's gotta be some consequences. Oh No this is not a consequence movie. There's only consequence for hint yet yeah that is true and no names because you look at this and they make a big deal about yourself man. They make a big deal about E._S._l.. Being you're being a superhuman. They make a big super. He's on the Black Superman Genetically Enhanced soldier look at me. I'm black superman well. If that's the case then I guess Jason Stay Them. He's the British Superman the rock is the browns because they all have the same powers as power all got the same powers I don't. I don't know why eaters L. but what makes him special. I don't know yeah I don't know why he went through this painful procedure. He just needs to be drinking. Whatever the rocket Jason Tatum is drinking because because because they got the same shit why what if everybody's superhuman in the movie? What difference does it make where the stakes in that yeah? You understand what I'm saying yeah because I look at this and I'm like you know because the rock skin is impenetrable impenetrable impenetrable penetrable yeah you can't get through penetrable. You know I know I know I know now I feel bad to unknown not supposed to question this but God dammit man in there's a scene yes on the trailer where he he grabs. A metal rope and sligh's is done this shit look like a strip on a pole. There's greased up and and and don't even suffer a rug burn. I know we wanted to elevate his. He's a sliding on you know I. I can't wait to hear about the dumb ass and the news that tries to do this shit trying to help somebody out of a fire I I can't wait for somebody had arm sliced off hand cut to the bone and you just fucking hit the ground. Nobody's GONNA turn into liquid. Quit because 'cause you watch the Rock Duda Shit. y'All even for movie like this now. If like I said man this missile any any other movie I mean I'm looking at the point like I was ready to even give it read again the robots and just fucking take man. I don't know maybe he does it. Bulletproof skin went on but when he hit that glass at one hundred miles per hour just like yeah now. Yes I know what movie I'm watching but here's my here's my here's my point. Had this been any other movie where the Rock in Jason stay them. Were the biggest bad dudes in the movie. I'd be like that's not real but I'm not I'm watching but when you had them with other superhuman guy moving and make a big point about him being superhuman the what the fuck am I suppose thinking about the regular guys that are just as powerful as him. You know what I mean sure and I've been any other movie the reason why that is a big deal because if they have the same strength and powers that he's as shit and that's another thing you were so big that got caught. You both deduct that y'all WanNa pull that building down fuck I is that they gravity physics will work together to make sure that he has a soft landing on that guy not like the rope breaks and they go tumbling akimbo spiraled out of control as I said they are gone. They took a trip. They look the country the grabbing physics logic man they say we have no place I see I see we're not need want it here. It what it does is it has makes it feel like no one has any vulnerability therefore as you said there is no consequence. There's no tension yeah. I felt the whole time just after a while there's like this. There's no tension here. Everything's GonNa work out. These guys won't get hurt. They're gonNA come out on top. Henchman Henchman will die. We might have a minor character die might but probably not I mean you know the the with the rock has brought to this franchise is a lot more money and a lot of pretending to be a bad ass but still try to keep keep a foot in the family friendly zone yeah yeah so it's a lot of posturing lot of action lot of posturing but but no one no one important is ever. Oh Yeah I'm I'm mutism and I'm not I'm not lying to look at this and I said well. I'll be down the adventures extra more realistically yeah. The Adventures actually has consequence yeah yeah yeah no the the adventures when you watch ventures the stakes here yeah. I me Shit. They'll let you know I mean look. We'll kill the baddest dude here. We'll kill Tony Stark News. I mean we might cheat and bring him back to a time machine or something but you know the people will seem vulnerable in these are superheroes. which is what why works is? There's like eighty Superhero ziemba vulnerable. That's why we kind of relate not here yeah well that that is a thing that you know it's. It's fun to watch for a while but it goes on long enough where I recognize. I I really identify. Take any of these characters either one of these guys I mean I could I could like one over the other or like them both but they aren't. They aren't like any person I know well of course not and that's fine I mean when I'm watching action movie and when I can I can relate in in a small sense in that you know I like it that they have comedy with these guys talking to each other like this. I think that that is one of the strengths of the movie but I'll tell you about that goes a little while but there's this I don't WanNa talk. I really cautious to bring up writing in this because you know there's hardly any but you know there's there's lazy writing this Harley any rise or any writing and then as just doing the same shit within the movie just to keep thanks going 'cause when I'm talking about here you know when these characters when they're when they're not fighting when they're not blowing shit up nope. The hacking has the solution to everything hack. They hacked away through this. You know it's Shit. They would've what that machete down eh here. There's because everywhere they go when something when when their stakes actually get real high in the movie somewhere wear somehow this conveniently a laptop naked and they went through something and again. There's here's where I'm going to drop the word I wonder up the S. word but there's also being self aware and then they're stupid and then beyond that and I can deal with stupid but then there's too stupid would no excuses juices. You can't keep talking about well. You know what this is. You know this is dumb. You know stupid front now man. Sometimes you've got sometimes. You've got to put in some work somewhere where to make me believe some here otherwise I'm just on an amusement park ride otherwise I'm at Universal Studios. I'm not watching a universe movie. You know what I mean. I think with this you can do both is two and a half hour universal ride ninety movie era and some people found with that well you so you get a roller coaster and it's only four minutes. You like man that wasn't enough. I WANNA go again. If you've got a roller coaster. It's two and a half hours. He'd be like let me off this shit. It was fun within the movie. I just tell you one thing here in in the film they they have a device they they have a device in the in the movie that and this is a device that is developed by this underground society with tech that no one has seen it broken but got damaged. They needed to save the world. What are they gonNa do with this broken device that no one has ever seen before the rock turned around tells Jason Sustain them nor mechanic and he's a but he's a very good mechanic? Oh yeah and he's a hacker hacker he can he can fix anything including a secret weapon that no one has ever seen before. I haven't talked to him in fifteen years yeah this thing here that no one has ever seen before but my man here boy you gotta call. It needs fixing. That's gotta secret world destroying device that needs fixing he can do that to that. Device car was the difference. It's just things like that where it's like okay. You're not really writing anymore. This is this is lazy. No see you you look at this movie. I it's kind of obvious that it's written from the perspective of they know okay. We gotTA. We gotta have a set piece to introduce these guys with them. Fighting lighting something we got a set piece a big car chase in London we have the showdown in abandoned Chernobyl nuclear plant yeah and then another guys like oh I can imagine a big finale action sequence on the island of Samoa Yeah now. They said these are the these are the things we know. We're going to film you writers. You is your job to get us from one scene to the next to the next to the next. We'll kill what you do as long as you bridge. These accent is true. They had one A. M. B.. which just you know get there? We don't give a fuck. If you gotTa Hack Your Way to do it yeah. I mean they could have had an B._M._i.. Say ooh we should have we should have the Iraqis into Chernobyl. Now we have to ex Russian Ukrainian nuclear nuclear plant yeah yeah yeah. We could totally do that all right. You guys write that in there. Okay I guess it is it. I'll tell you the relief of me in the movie was the chemistry between Jason Stadium and Dwayne Johnson. You can tell it those guys really do like each other. Even though you know they act like they hate each other in the film <hes> you know it the moments where the action is is getting to be just nothing but loud and repetitious are there just seems needs to be nothing else but action going on it will stop to let those to have a little moment together in comedy does break up things <hes> you know I do like the and for the what they do you know I do like the dude like the trash talk with them. That's the moment that things seemed fun because because things seemed genuine things seem like more character oriented even if these guys are playing themselves and that is where the movies has the most personality because it is people people getting instead of using a fist explosions it is them using the personality door. That's my door yeah. I'm going to stay this is your oh no no batteries you know I wish I had more of that in the movie except that a wish that they wished they would progress it because they don't do in the movie. What happens happens in the film is that it's another case of development towards a friendship with them? You know what I'm saying India. Is this them I mean it's like watching a romantic comedy where they you never get the kiss. Are they never get together are if it does happen is like well shit. How'd Y'all get here because there was no development in the middle of it and I remember seeing a romantic comedy like that where there was no it was some back and forth back and forth no real chemistry and then and then they go like ten minutes left we gotta have we gotTA? Have you guys get and that's what it's like here. I mean this is like one when those again this is something like a <hes> a romantic comedy with these guys you know you were looking at them. Go back and forth until you know they hook the inevitable. Hug are the admittance of like you except as like like you said it's only on one level and that's where they're just sitting around. Just trading insults like you said the high schoolers you're stupid. Now you stupid fuck you fuck you and after a while I mean yeah I mean it's funny at first but yeah it. It's it's too long to where they're running. They're running out of their best material. You've seen it all and you're like Oh man these guys. We hate each other. Somebody say like why they hate each other so much <hes> <hes> Gosh. I don't know they never mentioned it. I told her that they said at one time I don't even remember them on what they fighting. There was two movies yeah and what what happens is the only time that they are getting along with. Each other is when the beating the shit out of other people you know and that's when some out of somewhere somehow. I don't know how I got. I got check. It was like you want to kill him. fucking go for two hours killing fuck that we had to get here yeah you know that's why when I look get this. I'll tell you the with the with Jason Stay them in the movie. I'm sorry but Egypt Elvin the movie who I I I do like a lot. Kirby wasn't even NASA Kirby Vanessa Kirby. I think is another one who was really you know. You got to Action Stars doing what they do. Oh I thought she was really good but you've got two guys in here are to Tartu actors here who are really trying to do something with the material that they have beyond just action eater Salvin Vanessa Kirby and another thing but necessarily just knows when oil was getting tired of this shit and she's like look shut the fuck up and so you know she usually comes in and breaks up the tedium between the two and I I could go in and I can nitpick about some things like I said. I don't want to be completely negative about this. Get can nitpick about one thing yeah sure. Since you brought up Vanessa Kirby Jason stays stays mom's sister and this <hes> and they show them a couple of flashbacks when they're young and when they're young there's it's about two to four year difference between the two of them now looking at it and tell me that's a twenty four year difference. She looks really good for a lot L- look cocoa butter Shea smoothies. I said I I'm not gonNA begrudge. Somebody goes who wants to watch it for for the action because almost no the audience too well within some other things if that is what you're going to hear for to look for that action then you got it going to look for these guys because you like them. You got it and for the most part they're able to carry the film for me. I was giving like more leeway than would usually for another movie until it got about halfway through and that is when I said the action completely took over because I can nitpick about some things in here that I see as late as lazy that I don't like another movies. It won't affect anybody appeals. They talk about secret plans out and open completely on opening a diner airplane. You know the climax mix no doc fucking sense whatsoever. The bad guys do something completely idiotic just so that they could lose yeah. I was like you you really didn't plan. I got there. I mean with Maui and friends really yes especially okay eh they show what a piece of equipment where I was like okay not John who brought this here. I feel like this done and it's just not gonNA use it yeah. There's a lot of shit that goes on he was like a lot of questions is like wow you know. y'All deserve every fucking thing y'all get man. This is should it turn into Moana on steroids and y'all y'all y'all loss just because the scripts that you need to lose it is in but it's still reminds you moments of comedy that we're not taking this too seriously so I'm trying to ride with very funny cameos onto who the are but audiences seem to enjoy that so they are putting a little things in there besides just action for people who want who want want to get laughs from this but like I said it was after that second half at the action really took over and pushed every everything back in and in the action here it just became for me more noise than anything because as I said there was no personality to it. It's blend in with anything paying US still fun. I think if you don't if you don't mind the glaring laziness of certain parts I'll give it a high rental. I had I had some fun with it but I mean I know people looking forward to it but come on I mean let's let's stop using excuse of you know what this is because this shit really is is starting to look the same. You know what I'm saying well some people like that. They might go eat a big Mac every day and that's just how they want and they what died from diabetes. He's super size me. There was one guy he eats a big Mac every day and he's thin and healthy. He's a mutant. It told it totally dismantles settles the whole documentary even have put this guy here naive. He's ex-man but go ahead. What are you well? I'm I'm so much on the same page with you whereas like hey man I knew it I was getting into and and I've excused it before and just let the good times roll and I was willing to do that and <unk> overlook things but as I said that if it just didn't hang around so long and give me time to really it re engage my brain I can put it on hold wolf only so long and eventually it can case back and it takes an assessment of what I've been seeing and what's coming up and I can definitely see as you said at the halfway point where it stops trying to be a better movie it's all about it's action and it sets and hey it looks great. The my thing about this is like you. I don't hate it but I don't think it's as good as the fast and furious movies. I think it's it's it's got the same disease is a Lotta movies. This summer has had an and just that's been coming up where everything moves too quickly and it's too calculated. It's it's it's so all about audience wants this. Let's give them this. If we make it. Look good that's fine. We don't if we don't we don't have to spend a lot of time trying to make this make accents because they don't. They don't think much of the audience they look you like these movies then. You don't need science. You don't need logic. That's just going to get in the way it's an insult to you that we would try to do that until you. We're not gonNA make you work hard and I. It just feels very cynical. It's this movie is such a product and I looked at it as on screen. I'm like I'm just I'm like like in the Matrix. I'm just saying the ones and Zeros it's like I see exactly the calculations nations that went in to put this together even down to like Oh the Rock Samoan will bring this and it'll it'll have that that family feel without ever having to say family a- and it's almost like the movies almost over when they go like Oh shit we gotta do something to tie back in to the all the other movies and so they throw rose something in there probably my one of my favorite things about this were some of the cameos their surprises they were funny. They kind of woke things things up <hes> at least one of them <hes> the other two kind of about <hes>. I'm with you though I was like thinking high rental. Yeah don't hate the movie but you you've seen better. I'm cool with the movie. I just kind of you know where you've liked. The some of the others and I've just been like I I'm always asking for more and I'm just kind of consistent with it here. You know when this was like all right you know I don't know maybe even these you know maybe the family I'll tell you one other thing man they when they say two and a half hours they they might as well have the rock come in and just whole Yo ass down because they they got about five stingers on here three the same the same person in the same joke that they just stretched out in. It's another one those the the marble things where they last won you that then you're going to be like. I said this. I'll tell you even from the first these movies they've always been about the hero so cool the person pursuing them decides you know what I think. I want to be part of your crew and I'm like they just love doing that. Yeah I I tell you everybody villains heroes the janitor everybody joins US quizzed on point man yeah. I don't know Srb all looking forward to this and I'm not trying to talk about. I know you're gonNA go see yeah. I could tell 'cause when we started out. I can already tell what is like 'cause when we started on. I said Hey man. I really a back this movie at one percent. No matter how crazy is Carlos was over there like he was Lena Revolution Lucien Puerto Rico. He's like Yes yes and the more we start talking about but this problem probably like into the fuck out he he he he like you. As saying what I WANNA hear. I got better things to to reiterate. We talked about how stupid it is. It's not as stupid as the triple X. movies. It's it's it's better than that. It's just that feeling of man so much has gone into this. This should be better. It's fun. It's fun. It's fun it. Just it just should be better. You know you should they should be asking more of of this other than we just dumb as it is today like we get is only getting smarter. It's not like we're getting more. It's not like we're getting more. Creative is just not bring bring in more depth to the character just getting no. We're just getting dumb and doing more dumb shit and that's fine for don't ask now not kidding kidding but it is one of those with with with the other movies kind of like well. They have so many people in the crew they can't really focus and give you a lot of character dentists and but now they we've narrowed down to two. Oh maybe you could do that and what no no doing that boy I tell you I would y'all been not go space base with this shit. I've been just being spacious blowing shit up new some Yup Yup and do some. I don't WanNa see the rot punching astros. Do some shit up there yeah man that's I was thinking about that because they can't go to space on a job like that because that was already armageddon which is already a very bro a movie to begin again with it's going to have to be like an alien invasion door or Russians space station that are that are like doing some some shit like controlling the weather or about to launch nuclear missiles. You GotTa do some James Bosch Yeah Yeah Moon Raker. It's gotTa be Moon Raker Shit. You know what you know what I want. I want to try to fight alien dinosaurs to go up to the dude that shit is done before is crazy alien dinosaurs that can transfer a data so I could turn to a car. That's what I want to see all right all right. Let me check say fuck you. I almost oh the they said Oh. My God really you the one asking for space still asking for I'm just asking not to just do some dumps it up. There are the same dumb shit you know get crazy. That's that's why you nailed it right there. It's okay to do dumb. Just don't do the same dumb yeah. I want. The bill the villain back from second movie. I loved Moon Rigor. Yeah hopefully we'll get that fast and furious moon raker <hes> John Wick is in a fast and furious movie at at this point to one you just indestructible rates for Bruce Listen there. I'll know what Yeah Kristie. Here's the start mixing up sorry man. Would I'm sorry I'm sorry I did again. I'm so sorry Chris. I do that all the time. I don't absolutely I'm not doing it on purpose. I don't know why keep doing apologize man. I don't know why keep doing. I'll tell you like my kids. Just gets all mixed up airs. Look at the way it's spelled l.. O. R. R. Y.. Your dicks less your dyslexia. My Dick's dyslexic dyslexia Alexia Chris and Jason Stay but I just find each the argument to the whole thing just kidding just kidding me. I want the Rock re-centering atmosphere knocking out the villain like when black dynamite or rock from the moment to hit O._J.. Simpson before he returns and I say do that Kinda Shit. It's not like painted door fast door theories periods thunder. Oh all right. Oh let's see we got next over here. Get into next movie o o Mar Scorsese Man you know Oh Marty what's Mario got. All Marty knows friends. Call the Martin all Martin talking the other day. He's telling me about you know may working on some projects of doing some things things and they didn't call me back next thing. I know you've got a trailer. I'm not in it man. He said we will now. You said we won't work together -gether Mitla seeing them call people tell you man I mean who doesn't Love Martin. Scorsese can't love everything that he does. Is You know I did not not like his last movie you remember the last movie <hes> the woman Leeann Missing and <hes> and what's his name Andrew Garton Beer Ferreira is lost to us denounced God and public and cemented the faith. That's not possible for life to splinter fatal over Japan. It seems to me that our mission here is more urgent than ever. We must go find shoot somebody somebody do some Gangsta Shit and it turns out that we about to get back into their gangster shit. You know I mean listen. I had no problem with the movie I love and Martin Scorsese does anything as long as it's something I think is kind of good I I. I just didn't the last movie Silence Twenty Sixteen. I just didn't think it was one of his strongest man. I had mixed feelings about it. Yeah some great things yeah exactly love the theme I actually I got my. I love the theme I love some of the actors and really it was because of its length is a lot that they kind of drained out of it but I I love how it ended a to lock out ended and I'm like man. I think the just a pacing issue but say you know but man that's cool well he can. He can try any kind of thing he wants to. Just get back into that Gangsta Shit as far back as I can remember. I always wanted to be gangster. What do you think you look like a gangster as Goodfellas of course and I don't like to actually actually go in and try to Pigeonhole a director try to always wondered if he's like <hes>? I guess I gotTa do the gangster Is that Martin Scorsese has done that if it's on I'm watching it. I'm not going anywhere yeah. You know they if you if you're dying somewhere don't call me when ah you're dead jail and now two hours yeah. I'll get you have to Goodfellas as you do some. I'm Gangsta Shit. I watched some Gangsta Shit but now he's getting back into. I look as much as I want him to. Go off and do some some different things. Thanks knows gangsters. He knows gangsters man and now we got his movie writing and you pull it up. Let me go ahead and pull it up. I'm sorry Aria the Irishman done what don't kill all the Italians I gotta move on to the Irish people the Irish men. Let me go ahead and pull this up for you. What do we review today hobbs and Sean and an excellent pull up the flip? Let me let me see where it is right here. There we go Irishman the trailer for that. You know just like Tarantino. Mel is a a good day for the sinophile. These holidays Tarantino dropped a movie. Everything have to stop now. We have more more Scorsese with his latest one. The only thing is with this is that you know you think mine Scorsese Omarska seasons always talking about the cinema watching things on the big screen gene supporting the theater happened the social experience unless data's tell you hell no and then you've got to put on Netflix okay. Is that where this is gonNA be. That's GONNA be. He's GonNa be on on a three. I'm sorry it's going to be on the big screen for about three days. Okay and then it just to qualities qualify for Oscars are wards of any kind and then it's gone and then it's GonNa be on Netflix right out to our maybe at the same time okay so Roma Yea Roma Yeah like Roman. I you know it's funny because you look at this and this has all the all the production that you would expect from a master such as Martin Scorsese Sese just finding because this might be the last time you see something this big like this worthy of awards on Netflix while a lesser special projects expose special directors like Martin Scorsese because they said it's been a cool experiment. We appreciate all the compliments and accolades but God Damn Expensive Oh of course jeff and again this is just saying sustain the business model so they're going to pull them back from then but who knows I may change the mind if this one is a big hit with the critics critics and financially <hes> we'll tell you about what is about right at the trailer for the Irishman. Hello my friend I was talking to you about here can put him on the fall late autumn. Okay yes Frank Jimmy off. Let's meet you great to meet you too. Even if it's over the phone our friends picture thank you only tweet people in the world and one of these an omen one of them is Irish. I heard you pronounce. Uh yes I do so. Are you going to work. Well you know what is the situation going on now thing big business and the government China police list down. You might be demonstrating the failure to show appreciation. I don't know why you can't miss the big picture. It is going to go. Do you WANNA be a part of this. Would you like to be a hi this history yes I would would have you need me to do. I'm available Doc Tom she at man all band back together. I can tell you all that a gun I'm blessed and everything and he just wanted to sleep impound. Oh you ask sleep to a gunfight. This may around over here yeah you can't hit him because he's laying right down with the body's yeah man you know he brought right. He brought the whole gang thing back together. Man Yeah brought them brought those though the those goodfellas back Joe Patchy and Deniro Yeah Deniro neuromancer and Al Pacino yes everybody was wanting them to get together. I know the guy they were together in in in heat but that was yeah one scene here. It's a lot of people say not only getting that Gangsta Shit but you bring them. Bring the boys back boys. I I mean the fellas them goodfellas right there Robert De Niro Joe Pesci. You know you haven't seen them for a while. Now I gotta ask you this over real quick. Oh what do you think is the last last movie that they did together. The two of them yeah <hes> was a casino in a lot of people think that a lot of people think that it was casino the last movie that they were in turns out that they were they were in a movie together. Let me see if I have it up and I even bring it up now the last movie that they together let me see there. It is the last movie that they were in together was a movie called. The Good Shepherd came out two thousand six. You remember that like everything that you see here is there's patchy. I couldn't remember Joe Patchy Being Matt Damon. Yeah Yeah Yeah Oh. Oh wasn't in Brad Pitt Angelina Jolie. The trailer didn't really push you know the big the Big Veterans Air like Alec Baldwin Anyway. You only see Robert De Niro yet in here but that was the last movie that they were in together man. Yeah I remember the year that movie came out the the Good Shepherd there was this was also movie the good German and I was like well. When are we gonNA have the good German shepherd okay Komo? We'll have to try hard to get a big fuck you but it is true. They did have both of those movies too good to do this anyway. This bullshit experiments do some God damn respect you making jokes all right so she wanNA play last movie that Pacino you know and in Deniro was in. You're gonNA say what he said he it was not it wasn't that though and I can't I can't blame you for this man. Last movie that they were together was a movie that not a lot of people would stand up guys gnaws closed. It was a movie called Righteous. Kill right just oh it's fifty cents forced to dismiss all charges of rape and assault when you walk outside she planning. What am I call it? What you you give smiling become a copy because you wanNA serve protect? Anybody who believes in the movie didn't get a whole lot of yeah. It was not like a B. movie yeah so you know my point would bringing this up is that you see a lot of these. These these these guys these days in this new the era of cinema where they were legends at one time and now they're movies where when when when he came out at the time that he came out he was they touted this movie as an event film because it was the first time that the Niro Pacino had worked together since the Godfather right and now you're getting these guys getting back into movies together and you remember them. Which is why it's Kinda cool seeing something like the Irishman you know? Would you remember them when they're brought under the umbrella gorilla of Martin Scorsese and this is really cool man because not only that Gangsta Shit but it's it's is gangsters in history as you can see here under a lot of makeup Al Pacino Bill is playing with a lot of kids might even know today who claimed loves Scorsese but you'll know your history Jimmy Hoffa Jimmy Hoffa's the famous figure that picks up the mob and wind disappear and in fact those jokes for years talking about you know. Maybe they'll find Jimmy Hoffa yeah. You know who knows maybe there's movable timmy off the truck. We'll find out the truth but this movie deals with a guy named frank the Irishman and this is why. I think this is so cool because again it's not just against the film as it's taken against film. That's the Dylan would history Jimmy Irishman. We don't know what role and maybe there is history out there what role he played but <hes> frank the Irishman is though has been bring frank. The Irishman is the one one that went in and had we don't know yet but something something to do with the disappearance of <hes> of Jimmy Hoffa and till this day Mr where Jimmy Hoffa is. I don't know if this is going to be did they find. I thought they found they finally find him. I thought it was a few years ago. They found him aw yeah I did. I don't know about it. Maybe they did. I don't I don't remember any story so maybe I remember as a big thing when they were talking about. They thought they'd found him. I mean maybe it turned out. It wasn't doesn't him but yes. When we grew up? It was something that was talked about joked about for so long until there's a point where those jokes fell off and nobody nobody even thought about it anymore yeah yes. I'm really eager to see what they would. Mar Scorsese does where you know we're taking actually vince combining them with his own. Abilities of Gangsta Genre end because this is a this is taken place during the J._F._k.. Aaron <hes> J._F._K.'s assassination and what what gives me like excitement here is that you're going to get more substance than just you know a typical gangster the movie Yes <hes> yeah it just the fact that it's it's going to adhere to history and <hes> it's not gonNa pull the whole Oh thing where <hes> Kennedy dodges the bullet and shoots incessant. Maybe it's not a quintin saying it'll be real history or or something close to where it's not a complete aberration devolved into a cartoon yeah. It's not GonNa be you know the employers bannister's tackle what's his name on the on the on the grassy knoll and shoot him in Kennedy Rise up to the sunset his head Jack Kisses Jackie O and then Marilyn Monroe yeah this off but the biggest thing that they're talking about here but besides the cast because cast huge. There's some interesting people that got the movie yeah who else they got big three yeah besides the Joe Patchy Pacino and Robert Deniro harbor cartel it really is the band yeah yeah alumni harvey cartel going back to things like a taxi driver Bobby Kinda Varley kind of Karna Honda Bali Ray Romano is in this Anna Paklin Jesse Clemens is in his soul the other Matt Damon Yeah what if you just showed up and signed his name is Matt because he's like Oh yeah yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Dollar General Matt Damon Right there and so you know looking at this love and the cast but one of the things that is really getting people is at the start you know now that there are marble inhale it. Everybody had that agent technology man. They're taking. They're going to be <hes> de Aging. These guys probably about twenty years so you're GonNa have a whole lot of work. You know that's that's Deniro back in one thousand nine hundred nine okay <hes>. What was that psychiatrist movie? He was in analyze analyze is. I think that there's an analyzes so they're gonNA. They'RE GONNA use age of technology to take them back a little bit maybe further I heard they're gonNa take them back about twenty years from where they are but maybe more <hes>. I don't think that you've had any real glimpses of what they might. Look like you man you imagine you see yourself with the agent technology on the screen he like wow incredible and as you leave the theater you pass by Mariner. Who are you going to plastic surgery every week? I hate reality slow. Can you just take the poor. Please give me some Hologram for actually build a mask. I don't y'all got some safety pins but but yeah man there's a there's all these people the only thing I'm I'm expecting that you don't hear I'm like okay. y'All GonNa have a post credit stinger. Leonardo DiCaprio comes out on one missile missing right a lot of people talking about the age of Martin Scorsese. I think he's like seventy six and some people say man I don't know I hope this is going to be his best Monday. You might not be around a lot. I like may not heard about cleaning who you talk to Julia. That's you know the desk get him but Moscow's Marseille's seven instill healthy man. Yeah I think a lot Saudis guys man you don't be surprised of course as directed up into his eighties like Clint Eastwood Clint Eastwood just scares glint the grim reaper fucking you want. Nothing told you I'm not ready. I'm here to get that guy. I'm here for Martin Scorsese no but yeah look forward to a man yeah. It looks fantastic from the trailer. It does it does I got. I got a question for you. Do you think that you you love in a same things on the big screen. Even though it's coming up on Netflix will you go see this at the theater <hes> well. They might give us a screening yeah. I'm hoping they give us a screening leaning. I'm really hoping they will cause. I I'd rather see it that way and Martin I want that free. Drink and foods hooked US up last on Netflix the last movie screen and I eat what you won't drag. What you will is on us? They're really in the whiskey to yeah. It got to the point where Netflix is about to kick as an enough the greedy. What are you doing praying take? It was about the rule out those shoulders over there. I'm just concerned about you. Man You look tired holiday and in three days okay so he was up late Ma fall hanging hanging out go see drinking and drugs and shit cocaine in St to one thirty. How'd you have time to do anything man? That's what drink new line of six shots man. It was right around the corner man. Yeah we went to barfly right over here. Okay Yeah Yeah they. They know meal Corey it just here. Here's the bottle cheap asked two kilos so there you go yeah. They know me the the usual. Oh let me see here. How you feel about this trailer man going to chat about this? How you feel about see what they got to say? Reverse base applebee's let me see here. I swear way by here. Everybody loves Raymond thing my head during film you already know that it's going to be you know no matter how gangster he is going to go ahead that Kermit as voice <music> curious to necessarily be a gangster do well though it would be funny if he is GonNa find harmful anybody seeing hostile as far kermit. Oh Martin Jesus you were right. Make a move the German shepherd written directed by Martin and the what you said that you try to promote your movie math well. You know I got to get it in there whenever I can of course drink and skills superpower you WanNa talk. Some Shit. Chris airs the Fuck You WanNa Talk Shit to me like that to my face man. Give me a call. I'm meeting put the cream. I'm kidding yeah. Oh Oh let me see here. Looks great sent you a trailer for Lupita neon goal L'Opinion Zombie movie. You actually saw that all that saw south by south. What did you like it yeah? It's a comedy. It's cute but it was it was enjoyable Chrissy. He changed his name the chat oh Chris airs. I am not Ri- Watson Goddamn. Maybe I'll recognize you. You made impression sir. I'll look at that in a minute. The trailer made me but you know what <hes> got the stain talk about Reagan and then we'll get out of here but I want you. Do you WanNa talk about does movie. There's one one child nation sure I talk about sure yeah. I wouldn't have been a whole lot of time on it. Let me see one child nation trailer. Look that up download it. Let me see here. Give me a second him Martin. <hes> let me see let me see sir. Let me see if I can actually oh Martin. Give me some time in I in my love was surely grow download the trailer to one child nation what this is. This is a documentary. I want to see it but I was that day. I was it really was I was backed that was backed up with work man. I'm saying so to not make it but you Martin than and have to 'cause you saw Martin dedicated to these films I'd here because a lot of people ask us. They say you know you're watching all these superheroes and action people blowing shit. Oh you crazy as comedies we going to get back to. We don't get back to you. Art Artistic Roots Movies about people from the people you know things about on non fiction legit but real life and Martin saw this movie about putting right here <hes> the one child rule or law in China China which I guess on paper for some people are on paper for some people it. It sounds like a good thing trying to you know has has a population control helps environment and all that kind of shit right so they say but turns out. There's a dark side to it. Always is not what what could go wrong sh- I've read a few things about how darkness law possibly gets. I'M GONNA wash trailer right here in the Martin Sir. You're going to do a review. Are you. Not a will you will arrived in a will all right. Let's watch a trailer for this documentary one child nation and then we will be back with his his review. I was born in China in one thousand nine hundred eighty five a time when China's population crisis was making headlines around the world <music> effort to protect its people from starvation. China has an active policy limiting families to just one child the house you never thought much about what the policy meant for me or anyone until I learned that was going to be a mom. None of my family questioned the policy or how it was implemented to go <music> out out Chai Chievo say how each side shooter she voted the back is yellow quarter Chinese government government would come in and they bashed down your house. Take the child mature. I show Toyota Ashok Maurya Chins missiles on the again disassemble Gaudy Shiny Jack should they go Jagan sorta say throughout my life I was taught to believe the love of my country the sequel to love of the government and the party I was so angry even with my own family that there was a more to be said or done <music> everyone we spoke to set the same things about the policy positions. It shocked me too she down somewhat but she's one gate is most people in China really thought it was worth the sacrifices each family <music> complimentary words of their Martin powerful Harrowing uh-huh impactful all their true anymore worse to add to this. It's Har- Trajan Tours Mars <music> compound okay gotcha NAM that <hes> look at this in what I like about it and pass it on. Can you is that you have not having seen the film is one of those con- documentaries at like where you you see today documentaries with rate filmmaking combine our what looks like a really nice filmmaking combined with the actual footage yeah actual footage yeah but go and take it man <hes> yeah you know I it's it's one of those situations where like I'm not that big on documentaries and I I was excited about this because of the poster and then when I when I first sat down in there start watching I was like Oh yeah kind of these things always kind of dry to me and talking about China you know having their population crisis where he kind of looked the man we got too many people and they basically kind of pull. Thanos was just like well. We not have fewer people for all these resources so okay one child nation. You only allowed to have one child something. We've all known that they had all right well that sucks. They won't let them have more children. The question is so but what if somebody does though what would they do especially out in the in the country and the poor four villages where they have a child you like <hes> that sucks they gotta hide them. It's like no you prepare for. What this government is willing to do really really? You have another kid like they talked about. They'll knock your house down or knock. Knock your route cave your roof in. That's that's them being nice <hes> they take it to the extreme where it's like. Don't don't be pregnant because they'll they'll chase you down like planet planted the apes and induce and take the baby out and whisked away force you to have an abortion really or they would they. They would grab these women unsterilized him. They would rare cases. If you knew somebody you could have if you had a girl they would let you have a boy if it was if they were five years apart um but they got to wear girl children because they treasure the males over the the the boys <hes> there was leaving the street. It was like like just leaving them everywhere. Just just leave it the market like hey somebody if somebody wants a baby and the baby's would just sit there be covered in mosquitoes -squitoes and just just die then they would just everywhere to the point to where people there was a cottage industry of people who would go around look into findings babies to take an orphanages who would sell them to Americans who wanted to adopt them so Americans would go like you know like you probably know because I know I know several lesbian couples who have adopted Chinese babies or older people who can't and they give their Tim post-oil you here's the history your kid and he grew up here and this and that and and the family couldn't take care of them or the father died bullshit complete bullshit baby was found by the side the road sold it over forty dollars. They sell them to you for however many thousands as it yeah. I'm sorry it's getting to be even thinking about like the stories they go on and on so it is impactful Oh yeah yeah and kids and got some people who were involved like an abortionist worship. She was just like like all she does. Now is work with infertility because she just she's. I gotta pay for my sins. I can't it's hard for me to live with this and yet all these these stories are trauma. They come to people that say like don't you you hate the government feels is wrong and they're like well. You know the government was doing what they feel like they had to I do like and they'll tell a heart wrenching story about having a baby stripped away on having to just let it go and they still like well. You know this is what are we supposed to do what we have to do and yeah and there's a thing with a little girl who knows her. Twin sister is in America. It's it's it gets rough but it's it's. It's it's it's really well done okay. I mean well you tell them the stories about it was about what is it about the movie to <hes>. How do you mean well well? You told stories about it but you say it leaves an impact but what you know besides besides the the stories that which you know that's what the movie's about and you telling these stories. Is that a dare and what in what other ways is it with this film that you could like complimented outside of just the situations Semitic. It's it's also it's it's the filmmaker herself she makes it very personal because because she's she's in America and so there's a lot of her going around and talking to the people and some were just like get the fuck away from me. I want to talk about this <hes> but she you know where you kind of worry for her safety the at one point but she's digging up all shit <hes> but you you get a sense of this deals. Normally we see China. We're seeing the the mainland seeing Hong Kong and other places that are nice and this stays out in the villages and you get a sense of what their life like. which is it's a rare? Look at that and those areas. Let me ask you this is this is a complicated situation because I mean there is a overpopulation elation pro. Yes and obviously this thing is not working to the point where it's very inhumane cruel so does it does it move ever present present any kind of question about all right. You know there is does does it. Does it actually knowledge that there's a problem that needs to be done. Are Are we just due to overpopulation because if we if we try to do something we do really cruel things to people I mean it's not like it has a solution but it it does acknowledge that yeah this was a real problem because the within these stories you also hear the stories of people talking about what it was like before they start doing that. Which is why did here too like they were doing what they had to do? Does that give you any conflict at all. When you see it like man? This is really yes. This is terrible terrible but yeah yeah yes yes no. It doesn't make me go man. Government is completely evil because it does kind of present that look you know you you. You're upset about this now but if you life was like before the ship you know me and your dad and his dad went through you you you and be crying like like this is anything in here. You talk about how you don't like documentaries besides emotionally moving. You is anything outside of just just you know the stories that you heard that that makes this rise above average documentary for you well because it's it's something of real substance and it's not padded. I see a Lotta documentary as long as it's. I think it's much past an hour really an hour yeah yeah I mean it's it's over an hour <hes> but but it it doesn't it doesn't hit that our mark and then feel like it's treading water where it's made its point in. It's still talking like you. You know it's the matter of fact the longer it goes. The more interesting gets so you about to start crying over there which is Edwin look. I WanNa see you cry. That's a hell of an endorsement for this month's as down. Is there a point where there's hope in the movie well. They aren't really in that position anymore. So what I mean is the well. The documentary doesn't leave. You would any kinda hoping we'll explain that when you say they're not in a position he does. What do you think they are at? A lot has changed okay because I I mean I don't. I don't know how much I should give away. It's just that they have learned from that matter of fact they've had a reversal because it was short sighted inasmuch as now they have an aging population population yeah and none of young people to take actually read about that yeah so and they don't have enough women for all the men so this is a depressing thing when you lead the movie or do you leave hopeful at all I mean he leaves somewhat hopeful but the so much propaganda that the government does that goes down into just like the to the most basic and low level of entertainment and it's just funny to see now. It's at saint propaganda just the other way yeah it's far the filmmaking filmmaking goes in here is it when you say is not padded see a lot of documentaries way stand out by you know they gotta. Do things like put graphics up. They don't say they. This is very straightforward varying. Yes yes yeah yeah now. That's what that's what. It looks like. It's what I was talking about like you know. It looks like they just get to the point where they do. That's why I say they show they show Oh footage does not show actual footage and debt is what they use to tell. The story ran right. Not We're graphics illustrations yeah because you have these documentaries. He's used to have and then Michael Moore kind of brought in lots of graphics and make it sexy to the point that then everybody was doing it and it's like I. I feel like I'm I'm losing you. Lose the message or you just trying to keep this going. Keep my interest rather than letting the subject itself. Keep my answers. Are you following several characters in this like other like five people that you follow throughout the moving to go back and forth with this <hes> Kinda SORTA 'cause there's. There's there's you got well. I wouldn't say just five but this everybody from the village her family and then the people who were involved and then one guy who was the one who would find babies and then another another girl who knows she has a sister America and you know that's kind of the way that plays out at any moment that they were filming in here. Where 'cause someone else an American couple who who who found out about this and they they they they worked together is <hes> American Guy Chinese wife but they work? They work together to try to unite the kids with the fan nice cool man this kind of thing like I hope this since I missed it. I hope it comes on Amazon Pretty soon which I'm sure it will. I'm sure Amazon studios the movie beware 'cause. I'm one of my favorite things man. I mean is this is probably classic Goto but you remember Hoop Dreams. I never saw it. One of the great things about Hoop Dreams Hoop Dreams pulled up to now privacy hoop dreams who dreams a documentary from the nineties man. I mean we did hope dreams as one about earliest films while we're doing real deal back and I was doing you know we had access show cable access show even met you start doing this with you. Ian Yeah Hoop Dreams one to one of the earliest movies that we are seeing. I think I'm mightier interviewed the the director. I'm not sure uh-huh I haven't seen hoop. Dreams is what it is. One of the greatest documentaries this out there cut off actually actually from the late seventies early eighties episode of the White Shadow. I sound like one of those educational to us back in the in the eighties and he's still showed a day just outdated movie in because right if you say this is one of the best document becomes on yeah. I'm sorry I'm putting on porn. What's poop dreams scant movie? Oh Sir Ernie Hudson foods getting little but you save why have become Game Bang. I said you know it's nothing constructed and they will be on your father June gay following true to be like do you wonder sometimes in my living how much children's of I I have hoop dreams about these guys who had of course dreams of basketball taking them out of the situation and what was great about this is that you got every moment you follow them. As they got older. They were kids and they he got older and what the wolves great about is that you saw moments like genuine moments. It was almost like watching an actual drama saw moments with things unfolded on camera of whether other was every big success where you really ruined for them are every heartbreak that they had just hard to see sometimes hard to watch in time so you know this movie. Do we have any moments like that where it was just genuine moments of true drama happening that the filmmakers happen to catch at that moment now okay so everything's just kinda pre done in a way well. I mean I not as big as what you're saying but early in the film when she's talking to the people from the village it's one where they haven't seen her in a while. They're all excited and then she starts bringing up all that stuff from the past and kind of turned out pretty quickly now he willman. I mean definitely it's sounds like you give this a huge endorsement. I do I do full price yeah full price and that's a huge endorsement coming from a man who does not even like documentaries. I don't like them not you go to. They're not my go-to cool man. I like documents like like I used to so many there's so many of them. There's so much reality T._v.. or or stuff on the channels yeah they kind blend together all right on. Do this still GonNa talk to Brian Kelly <hes> Shit Yeah kinky putting them off knocking. Keep putting them up. I tell you already prepared this. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA go ahead and do it and you know. Maybe I just review the movie. It's already out. Just tell I tell people I really WANNA. Tell you about this but you know I already got this segment Brian about to get to you. Let me let me just do this. Real quick man now now. I say this is again. GonNa WanNa hear it then you can go it is. It's something that happened. Today's kind of have to bring it up. Chris Harman was the one that sent me this and ticked off with like it is kind of relate to movies a little bit talking about Martin. You'll boy Mr Ronald Reagan re. Eh as people like Oh man. You got to get political on movies so I mean technically Ronald Reagan is about movies when he was in movies. Are You mystified bewildered and puzzle. You needn't be all these genetic. Take place in a hilarious new Hollywood movie called Bedtime Ah buns starring Ronald Reagan Diana Lynn and Bonzo that amazing Joe Black you know here's the thing he was president of the screen actors guild was he even know that not so there you go people very connected to movies and went from President of screen actor's guild president of the United States Ronald Reagan right here for many was a golden age of conservative assertive politics in the Reagan era that lasted from nineteen eighty one to eighty nine where he was acted turned fortieth President Martin and a lot of people felt like he was a gentle soul with the heart of a lion when it came to his country and the American people who felt uh-huh. Oh Martin come you say they both say that more because a lot of people didn't know up until now that yes he loved his country he loved the American people but as you said Martin own if you will kind of bleach a little bit because a lot of people didn't also know that while he loved his country I he was also fucking racist. A lot of attention at a lot of people don't even know what store you got over there. I remember what life was like when he his in president when he's the president for. Let me tell you it it. It took thirty years for somebody finally to report something off. The net people knew for a long time for for the tie vote for the man probably been hit the White House. Everybody knew it's a thirty s report that this man was a racist. I don't know maybe take another thirty is report. The Wada's wet Martin when you were growing up as a kid in the eighties you probably have to go to school and view it and I and I'm serious man. If you were you could kind of it was it was hard. Sometimes when Reagan was president because I remember when a teacher just kinda rubbing it in how much she just love of Reagan and she and she rubbed it in so at the black kids felt terrible. I remember there was there was a woman named Miss Mrs <unk> a woman is a shit stained of a woman. She's dead now. Thank God the world is better off without it. She sat in a class with all these kids is when I get a little bit of history is i. There's old history. I don't know anything about but it was I guess he was running against Mondale at the time and she said Dan had all he says whose parents parents of voting for Reagan in you know what adults vote for Reagan I was in third grade. She did not like Brag. I got stores about this one but she she know all the the white. Kids are GonNA raise a hand and she she's like an WHO's voting for that other guy of course all the black fuck bitch all right yeah a mom yeah what what do you think Jesus fucking Christ man you know but a lot of people at the time love Ronald Reagan because they knew nobody. He said nobody wanted to put it out there but because he had policies that were very much against people of Color in poor people yeah see I I remember Mooney got shot and it was in English class. We had to teach them. I Sean as kind of a hippyish woman. <hes> I mean I say that because she unwed yoder and and she didn't have she didn't wear bras all hearings well did she wasn't Harry but she had huge cities and she didn't wear bras. They would just swing the whole time on your glass and she was she was thin so it was kind of like okay it was about this. Marston has nothing to do a robbery. Oh no no no no no no no she came in after new and she said you guys got shut and the whole class erupted in laughter and what is wrong with you. People can't shut the nation was torn apart. You're like well shit he kennedy. He's an asshole Reagan. Look because right now. y'All talking about right. Now you're talking about. How dare you insult such an icon of American politics the fuck this guy alright upset when I was growing up everybody who was a certain color? Everybody's fuck this guy and I'm gonNa tell you and y'all got a leg to stand on now. I mean sometimes you just have to have you just have to hit like we always say sometimes times. You just have to hear somebody that you know racist. Nobody's GONNA accept until they until they hear that person's say Nigga our call somebody in this case a monkey they got it finally came out thanks to the paranoid as Nixon because he recorded everything and got his ass got got Reagan man and here's a in and so this is big news today so it came out that that Reagan was on this recording was talking about about Africa and I've forgotten what context he was talking about it but he talked about how these people. I'm sorry I'll call them. People know he called the monkeys monkeys over Africa. You know this little cannibals. Oh this will savage. They don't even a backwards Listen let me tell you something about. She plays a mean. I'm based on. I'm going to bet money on you. You you know here's the thing about about Reagan man and the thing that that in in the cult of personality around ring and anybody Kinda like him and it's just history man so that's why people don't really say Shit because back then even people that seem like they on your side <hes> probably racist man we deal with for example L._B._J.. Man L._B._J.. You know because I doc it's this is the thing I can I can. I can probably be the light on Reagan because look back in the day I just summarily about it was kind of racist right because it was even if they didn't think they were B B._J.. L._B._J.. A you know he did a lot of civil rights but talked but he did it right. He Delap a civil rights but was political and he was a straight up racist. I mean he love column people to end. Were he just say he did. He did it so loosely. It was just like I think it was. He didn't even think it was racist. Just part of it languages Vernacular Call Martin King then Nigga preach down south talking about how the niggers in Texas well well you know they got the bone power now so I guess we got bad news but I've gotta prove discriminates now came prove index is more negative vote. Man Alive Folks Avenue and now here's where my point comes in. I can do with people back then being racist I can deal with that's just being in history and that's just part of life fine. What gets me is when people start building? These statues monuments are building structures after them and then expect people to bow down and respect. We got the eljay l._B._J.. Museum here tech down. We got a lot of L._B._J.. Stuffy a lot of L._B._J.. Stuff funding L._B._J.. Museum right off of Martin Luther King you know what I'm saying yeah in. We're supposed innate totally mention anything about him. Using the n word being racist they try to make this but he did so much for civil rights. I tell you don't drag me over there because they start talking Natia to me when they got the person you know the the tour guide and everything I'm GonNa say fuck them. I mean you know hats off to him for doing what he did but don't try to put this bullshit on me and that's the same thing with Reagan man you know and I'm GonNa get to you know my point with this because that's the that's the thing then if we finally know something that you know it's finally put out there. Something and everybody knew and we knew it. Nobody listened other people. New Dodge doesn't had the balls to say it but you knew fuck Reagan man. He's a racist as bitch in that 'cause that's the thing that makes me upset man. You know we we got the in addition to the to the to the museum we got the Ronald Reagan airport over in Washington you know and and and and like I said Ray unlike l._B._J.. L._B._J.. Did things for civil rights Ronald Reagan. You can do whatever he could pull the ship back brand. Our did just flat out did not support it. <hes> he's a conservative hero and I'm GonNa take exactly why and it's because of that one because well the two major factors of why he's a conservative hero because if you're rich and white he was Yo man yeah but the others Chris if you were poor person of color then you know he's a terrible president yeah he was a terrible presidency was fuck you. I'm a millionaire yeah. He was a a terrible president man. Let's just get into some things that made him so bad. I mean besides let's even lead racism out of it. I'll eat some his policies have led up to what we have today this whole thing with reaganomics which is trickled down yet economic. I just I remember watching T._v.. And Him Explaining Matt and I thought and I thought to myself. You've got to be fucking kidding me. He the whole thing is just what is that's what his broken down. He had a graph in everything that he went on. Well you know he was that was the thing like you know. Somebody had a chart back in the day. You saw commercials where somebody had a chart will. They've got a chart and shit. fucking must be some but you got Donald T._v.. With a chart is bullshit in you know what Reaganomics was basically broken down was that it was gift. Tax cuts to the wealthy in you know the the wealthiest businesses out there you give them tax cuts them. Give them a break <hes> the well it will create jobs with them right and we all all that wealth will trip with trickle down and I remember him doing the fingers yeah it will trickle down it was like Oh so if we give enough money to to all the rich corporations they will get better table scraps and I will say this to be fair and like I said a lot of people could probably argue finer points with me on this but to be fair this slowdown inflation help stop to recession aero some other factors that actually had to do with that other than his economic the plan but the wealth was still shifted to the wealthy Oh yeah and it didn't say the government any money aw it actually created more debt in the money that was kind of safe from the government it was spent and put the government in debt by spending on defense. You know what I'm saying. <hes> tripled inflation at the time and at at the moment we're supposed to help the middle class. It didn't help all that much coach throughout time. It's actually lent itself to what we have. You know the big <hes> inequality gap between the one percent and everybody else his economics did not do great for the country <hes> corrupt as a legal. y'All might remember the the Iran Contra scandal where people like again. We will a lot of people my neighborhood. We're looking at Oliver North Tom but man this mother fucking full of Shit other people. You know certain persuasions looking at him like Oh my Gosh I'm at Uni uniform and saw the speech he gave about him. Being just American Eric Guy Would American wife and a five family. He's wearing this uniform like Oh. He is such a Patriot meanwhile he was over there giving testimony but some of the biggest legal shit as you all know by now. My name is Oliver. North Lieutenant Colonel United States Marine Corps. My best friend is my wife Betsy to whom I've I've been married for nineteen. I haven't seen him in days. Relevant thing is going on exactly not give a fuck about Your Best S. Free Beers together the fuck up ears and with whom I have had four wonderful children aged eighteen eighteen sixteen eleven and six I came to the National Security Council six years ago to work in the administration of a great president different as a staff member. I came to understand his goals and desires. I admired his policies is strength and his ability to bring our our country together. fucked is due to tell you what happened with this this whole Iran Contra scandal which was in part of for some reason you know people love this guy because he was billeted when Reagan what happened was they sold weapons to Iran so that they could free hostages however the money that was taken from that which you know again do not all the talk about negotiating with terrorists or whatnot. Just give them all this yeah. I'm sure that would never blow up in our faces no but the money that was taken from that was used for something else career highly illegal which was selling <hes> selling arms to <hes> are giving money Nicaragua Gua that much that selling those weapons to Iran the minor was taken to fund Nicaragua to fight socialism over there highly highly fucking illegal to do there and and nothing ever goes to show you know certain level of power fucking what is what trump is being able to get away with what he gets way. Remember those hearings over and over are and then Oliver North takes the fall and that was about it yeah yeah and the biggest thing that now leading up to this telling not this great president at all in fact he's very damaging president but one of the other biggest things besides you know helping the wealthy is that the reason why he's a big conservative hero at people not gonNa tell you the reader the hasn't it may have to do with money for these people but really it's because of his opposition to civil rights and social programs that would help the poor people of color because he he touted that whole myth myth of a welfare queens these welfare queens who were taking this money illegally and driving around in limos like point to one it was him in Nixon to you. Were doing that okay but I mean I'm not trying to say was better than the other you know yeah but he but they were pushed out agenda yeah put that thought and and in everybody's head that that was like yeah we got to cut this off so so the drifters don't take it. What about the the people who actually meet it? Yeah I mean he went to let you know man is due. Never he's fucking racist. He never liked black people. He was opposed to the Civil Rights Act of one thousand nine hundred eighty four. He's opposed to job training programs that would help people a secure employment about I mean so much for you know trying to help secure jobs to make America better you know he'd cut programs that actually kept people from getting jobs. He cut free lunch programs midnight basketball programs that were proven to have a record of success for inner city man. Yeah <hes> tried to veto a Civil Rights Restoration Act nineteen eighty eight in this his while maybe the middle class was some people were seeing some benefits benefits of his of his policies in economic policies he ravaged <hes> you know a lot of black <hes> a lot of black areas man. <hes> you know it's it's a lot of black communities. He ravaged in yet. y'All bill y'all bill statues and build his name up on plaques and we're supposed to sit up in honor this guy disrespectful if you don't you know Aspen Fund built all you want to s history man I can tell you with a lot of people still backed this guy like like I say some Golden Age of conservatives is for reason man but like I said don't be surprised by sit back back and you say on all this praise and I'll say fucking skies. It's gossip piece of shit man. I never liked Reagan. Never light rain and it's for those reasons right there. Come on you're becker who nobody yeah no love oven. No mismanagement of the crisis in the eighty also had to yell did Yeah Yeah I'm remembering DAB because it the hat to die because of as I'm like y'all forgetting this one had the nerve to like go in him him in his wife life especially his wife in this situation have the nerve to go in and take all these social programs away from these communities and then sh- her bitch ass until people you know what if you see drugs in a neighborhood just say no how about give me a fucking job and could take all my shit away that was actually helping they should allow the problems right now in south and even in Puerto Rico withdraw words because Reagan because of the drug more the whole Pablo Escobar thing going on is because because he escalate the ship to a low of then acing humane like it's Oh yeah like Reagan bag home lease Fuck Devil we just don't like him like we love Kennedy the hours just coming from the airport and we have this huge beautiful not sachdeva painting of Kennedy because the only one that give a fuck about Puerto Ricans since but I haven't talked to my mom had Reagan's don't mention him and that came out. My mom was furious. Everybody was like this some bullish monkeys monkeys president well yeah fuck this dude. I mean my whole thing. Is that people still today. Think we that everybody she kisses acid. Everybody everybody the people that look like us. We owe him something men. Do you remember like a year like before thousand three. There were campaigning to have an additional head to mount rushmore more and they want to Reagan to be that your head of their mother they put it in Congress almost passed but nine eleven actually stop all that because all the funding went directly to a whole war on on that but they were gun ho they wanted to seeing your face. I'm not making this. I remember this Berg clearly. There were campaigning. I'll we're like it was going to pass yeah. It's crazy man like he's. He's seen as one of the greatest presidents by some people with certain people he was because as you benefited from now but not us no but it was a war on people that colored back then yeah I clearly clearly say you want to put something on plaque from me. Fuck them put that up shit colour minority <hes> poor poor everything and we think that for yeah economy manny whatever help it had it was tipperary eh it's this whole thing and he could tell like I said some of the stuff that they wasn't even because of him. Yeah other people come in the thing that was good was helped by somebody idea. Let's let's put this in perspective. We will have handled the eight crisis better it wouldn't be was today it will it could have been stopped and dealt with with if Reagan wasn't involved and the White House didn't fucked it up now. How bad history books remember this? He's not he was a piece of shit. President man wasn't that some people have anything to blame it on well. He just anointed better he had Alzheimer's Divers Amen Pants Basil some of those healy beans right that was the that was the big impression aw again tough but fair you remember it was it was the whole campaign tough but fair air especially with the drug war want to sit up here and talk about Oh but he was anything he was wasn't him. He was sweet. He was just seeing it was there's other people around them who would like control things. He was a good guy. No you know what no bullshit even had somebody actually Dana and I'm trying to tell me that and eighty realize how and it was a smart as realize how bad they would be going to sell well. He had this black friend. Stop right there start. That was a pet that was but I know he was. Oh sweet around whatever would it be. He did wrong is because about side forces and made them did come African uncovered comfortable where he went to see now and he said that was who was he talking Nixon always talking to Knicks. Okay that's news. This is my nickname. Someone's recording this one recording. I want to see all of them. Yes definitely worse men yeah yeah seriously I mean not in Alfono way denied and walk around or whatever you know. You've even say what I'm saying. Oh it's just the tires but think of the good he did fuck you. You should do for you yeah yeah. I got this thing man every U._S.. President Sri Bat horrible Shit but that's one of the few that I struggled to remember. What the fuck did he do you shit? He kept us even in school under the fear that we were going to die in a nuke of nuclear annihilation Gorbachev Man. Did you have any hand wall along. He did a great speech. I remember that speech. Wow like Mike turned down down. I remember that he's hair down that wall honestly if you want to blame what made the Soviet Union just crashing Worcester Noble after Chernobyl award. Everybody went like well fuck this really yeah. Chernobyl was really big reason why Soviet Union at the very last thing what were bankrupt but that points like Oh Joey fucked up. There's nothing Rapa voice looking at the chat right here Thomas. Maybe I have appointment. Thomas says Reagan is one of the guys that will be. I've seen poor and poorer on by future generations. I've never met someone from a younger generation that life Reagan and you know what because Roosevelt was coming out now might be the case still gonna be people hold onto him. He's a golden boy of conservatism and Reagan harassed and seen as one of the you know one of the greatest Arizona the president. You're GonNa hear that people who benefited from him. He's not he did a lot of damage to a lot of people. A lot of people does a complete asshole man men half of South America wouldn't be was today if Brigham would just stop is the shades goes way way back before him in like I Teddy Roosevelt level like Panama Canal but Brahms one that said the match and let all fucking burn like Columbia all that <hes> Venezuela that goes back to well this is tough but fair as far as just how it was the time right too bad still lasted now. He's a lot of effects we still feel right now. Man <hes> let me classes shit that he has done. Oh let me go ahead and call Brian Man Lomax so just right off the bat. The Rock can do no wrong in his my mentor so I'm still going to see this. Bush knew somebody will still tell us Lomax you just doing it because you look like you belong <music>. You're like the rug you've both the alternative rock's but that's it. What franchise a film would you like? See dwayne Johnson in that you think could truly really bring out an Oscar worthy performances from here. I think he's capable of they look no. He's he's totally capable of. Don't don't listen. I'm Lagos's Make Fun because we've seen a lot of people pull a surprise like that but he's making his money like this now yeah yeah he he makes his money but I've seen him be actually really good listings. There was a been a while but yeah that was movie was talking to some kids trying to get them together and I was like he wasn't the Gridiron gang it might be the greatest thing is but I could see potential for doing drum he can do you think when he started he was like well. He's a wrestler and then it was well. He's good for a wrestler and then we've got to beware skies good and he does Moana ways singing and doing comedy and okay. I see why why is a major star Yeah No. He's no exactly man. I have nothing against him. I have nothing against his franchise. Duke might do what you gotta do. Make money do what you gotta do. I'm just saying that I era is really something that has been on a plateau for me. Yeah Flato last. I thought about this movie last yeah and I have I have nothing against those people like in the last movies meant for me. They have not really been too different. I mean 'cause when they went crazy. I was like all right well. At least I'll do something different but still same crazy the new crazy space but you'll have a problem Omar ninety eighty four wants to know about the return of the animation Brown we about to get to you how coy Martin from Tallahassee Florida Wash you guys decades spill dot com days. I think both layers core you worked in animation chainsaw want to ask you I know here in America computer animation dominates the film industry. This does make me a little said as I watch older Disney movies and see that the ones coming out now now no longer to the animated thanks to artists like the nine old man Glen Keane in Eric Goldberg Are Really Miss hand-drawn animation. We used to see like Little Mermaid Bunin N._B._C. Land Lion King and body would be an thought it would be gone however announced a few days ago the two D animated film from Net flicks his come in this winter of close starring J. K. Simmons Rashida Jones and Joan Kusak directed by despicable me creator Sergio Pablos yeah so is being updated for the twenty th century by having enhanced lighting text. Oh I've seen this man says Hollywood's reactionary says Hollywood's reactionary. Do you think if clause becomes poplar Disney will return to two D animated films. I hope so but who knows what they'll do Omar. I think I saw that what you're talking. I'm I'm not sure it looks like a delivery guy. Is that the one I saw this <hes>. What's that animation program <hes> <hes> to Tim Bowness yes making let me find his real quick? It looks great. Toon boom was kinda touting how they're using their program. It looks amazing of the looks almost three d rendering engine engine for lighting now so let's get yeah yeah it's too it's too intimate but they also use premier after good morning owning madam on a good morning it is indeed for you. See today is the day when progress arrives in this charming little town of yours. No let let me steal a few moments of your time to introduce you to the all the only thing that I would say to SPI diverse. Has this look yes. That's what it is is what you're looking at. Is that a house animated are looks like his animated. I'm about to talk real animation technical term but there's a thing that they say animating something is framed leaned in in frames of two and so doing that makes it look more hand-drawn animation so I think that's what they're doing here but to be honest with the man besides like the facial expressions impressions and whatnot it Kinda still like three d animated so why why do paper man if you remember that paper men short from Disney a couple years back it's just a tree is the tree model the way that is where the where the way that is process and the way does this make. It seem like to think what will happen happen. Here is looking a little more. This concept dot is the postal service that must yes fake expression killer. It's been a seventy six days. I tell you <hes> combination of imagine three backgrounds too but what was the the deciding factor will be. Let's just say that this method looks as good and people can do it in a quick efficient kind of way and it saves money yeah yeah. Hey that's all I wanted to say. That's what they'll do. There's no reason why studio the to the Animation Soon Disney has triple if not quadrupled last year and especially with <hes> frozen to almost doubled in size and especially use an older rendering technology is because his faster cheaper and they can make a look better every single time. Hopefully we would ooh it would never go back like three has a lot yeah Brian Gully. Hey still a week. Yes still awake twelve thirty over there. You can't just out Brian you know we've been talking to them <hes> Brian and trying to get him here so he could talk about something and unfortunately we run in Kinda late special act yesterday Ma'am when that movie was thirty minutes late in a started like late anyway yeah it was a seven thirty movie. They weighed over thirty minutes abroad. You know that's neither here nor there now. We got you here man. You can't seem to that's what I say. I keep telling these people that man Martos like I could but Brian is there. You got a second wind barely with us but he's he's hanging in there but Brian. Bring your email mansell that can actually go in and start talking about you book yet in Verse Vic thanks to you thanks to Martin thanks to Carlos and T._J.. You back there. Thank you guys for having me on. Oh yeah absolutely no man sorry that it again for the mix ups debut author Martin available for it and then I looked at number Brian Yeah southbound Stephen King was trying to get no no Brian is I said this before. Let me see here. I moved Brian over closer to his source material. I gave Brian biggest compliment the other day. I said I hate him. That's right you did say it was probably because I'm envious of you because I'm doing things right. Yeah you accomplished plus musician accomplish more accomplished than me accomplished. You're now you're writer author and you just published your first book. Let me go over here and show people it is is called spin a novel John Gully honestly I've always kind of been a writer I even when I was drumming back in the band. You're acting like it's the thing with drummers where we don't really have to create about it. Because we're south. They're like in the back bang and things away the so when I was playing in Evora I you know I never actually talked about this but I actually wrote a lot of the lyrics meeting and Kristen singer correct the lyrics because that's how I felt. I don't know that's how I felt a inspiration to do something creative in the band and then once I started to feel a little bit more supplier to start to write doing that for a couple years now and finally I hooked up with this local publisher Long Island where I'm originally from Sam and Dave Sex on here I am on domain and hopefully you'll be much bigger places much better giga somewhere right now man we. I'll tell you what we're honored to. Have you here Bryan Bryan. I've been trying to do some stuff to you know together we go into the AIN'T GONNA maize on his own little birthmark westworld nice alertness but he was supposed to play in New York force. Oh wait wait. Did you guys break up right before that. No no we broke up before it came to Austin a couple of months ago. What happened in New York was this wasn't even chorus fault you know for the record? We're all set to go and then the venue emailed us we're like Oh. Actually we have a strict curfew. We can't adeane sorry exactly yeah yeah. No no no I had everything cleared for them to play and then they found out what time we ending said in told him sorry so oh yeah yeah and I feel bad about that but hey you know because of that. Thanks going broke up because of that. He was so hurt by that. The actually just had to write a book. Let's say you know I'm the root of successful so many things looking looking at your press release here man you know I can read a press release. I don't even like reading press releases because I like hearing it from the talent themselves really quickly you you book is about what if I had to say it in a couple of sentences about a politician with insomnia who's an incumbent mayor trying to win an election but as someone who can't sleep he's going to these crest junkets and interviews with bags under his eyes and he just looks like total shit at the same time he has a daughter about eight years old very young who thinks sting leads the coolest thing so the only time that she gets to spend with their dad is when she stays late while he is insomnia so what how would how describe this political drama is a heart heart warming drama between a father and his daughter. You know what how would you describe this. It's a couple of issues <hes> drama and comedy in it comedy in it is what I would say <hes> and it's funny because you know if you look at the cover this in-your-face American flag Ronald Reagan but try to sell you this interviews done y'all or description. Portion is the word white my ass with Brian if I if I walked into a barnes and noble to look for it what section what I find it trivia questions you'd find probably in I mean you find in fiction. Ah Literary fiction so you find it on the great brands like you find on the Internet. Oh Man Amazon the next to Alex Jones. Let me ask you this. Then inspiration behind is because it sounds pretty unique. You know you have something that sounds political oh but then it sounds like that's just the backdrop for what is probably going to be a character piece again about a father and his daughter inspiration for this story. Yeah you're right right on there. In the middle it's going to say is that the politics background could be cut deceiving. I actually even though I watched the democratic debates tonight before coming on here. I kinda hate politics Dixon. GotTa find it disgusting. The title itself comes from <hes> Deep Shimpo quote about this being the age of spin in politics that everything has to turn around around on your favor. I guaranteed tomorrow's headlines about Ronald Reagan are going to be back and forth on whether or not you know we can criticize him for what he said. I actually I come from a background in psychology. I live in Boston now. I work for the Department of Mental Health at and that's what inspired this insomnia piece in the story inspiration for this was actually a some personal struggles with insomnia. I'm cory. I'm sure someone working as yourself and I'm. I'm not even kidding kissing his ass. Please tell me more unless a sarcasm I started with my own personal. Insomnia rose going crazy trying to get to sleep but then I remembered a junk it from my childhood when I was about eight years old the same age teaches modern this story where I thought that it would be the coolest thing in the world to stay up all night and just watch cartoons all night and then go to school the next morning and get Brag to all the kids it's that I stayed up all night and I thought how funny would it be if young me could talk to adult me right now and say like why are you complaining about staying up all night you know stay on Ninety Cook is if you want your in ear farm it just made me laugh and gave me the inspiration for the two characters nick and the modern story okay well. I'm sorry with I was only going to add that on there. It expands into another character that came in that is it's like the political for people who politics. It's not totally empty for you. There's one character that drives all the political conversation and his name's actually Martin Ark Questions so black do with adore sense of style him and his son Corey is more of like Gotcha type so smart. Not You know what when a question from this yeah sounds like you really influenced by personal experiences in your life which vary based on these the characters that you have here and yet you hate politics which doesn't seem to be like a big influence of what you have. Where does the politics play into this? Why do they play into it? If you know about politics is not a big big influence on your life. What what what big part of the serve absolutely so I came to a crossroads when I was writing a character? The first chapter almost has nothing to do with politics six inches about guy. You can't sleep and a daughter won't go to sleep and I thought to myself warns where we go from here. What does this man do and at the time I but it would be really interesting to be politician because of the idea of having to put up a facade of a front and the world down for jobs everywhere? I'm sure we will have to to do politics. You seem so hyper relevant at the time that someone has to essentially pretend that everything in their life is perfectly fine and I'll tell you this the the reason yes insomnia. It happens Omnia for no reason. There's a role the character place in his insomnia nice. Oh let's see T._J.. Has a question for you. Oh right yeah. He woke up just for you. You should go first of all congratulations on writing your first. I novel <hes> I guess I I guess one of the things that I'd love to know is as you're going through this novel. What was the biggest hurdle that jet overcome <hes> kind of in terms of a row much roadblock over the struggle that you had to go through to finish it or maybe you just did smoothly general teaching? You've come out with some fun questions. I go on like C._N._N.. Right I read a book every week and I think that I think that reading is just offers so much so much boundaries and I wanted to be when I was a kid. I wanted to be an author. The MOM said chain paying for school for that so then I ended up so no I I love. I really do love a specially especially hearing that you're a musician and able to go from that into another sort of artistic facet. I know that normally people wouldn't think those go hand in hand but a lot of of the emotional ties that you're able to pull through music you can extend those same sort of sentiment in to how you right and how you communicate normally in your day to day as well as higher actually able to read in how you conduct yourself and so I'm just that's why I'm just so curious on how you were able to apply those different things and that's why blockchain's well. I appreciate it and appreciate the credit seriously. I wasn't expecting the guests of this much. I thought it would just be core messing with me. The the entire song glad he's hurdle is just to to make time to sit down actually do it. It's it's it's kind of like going to the gym too painful process to star but once I get going than feels that's good nice. I gotTa ask you one quick question before we go. How long did it take the right to Janssen's already because I was trying to now I I started reading it last summer so it took about six or eight months and then everything since around February it's been post production like audio bookmaking and publishing all the not as fun stuff? I got one question. Do you have your next book planned Yeah Yeah. I'm reading right now. Nice the best part I think of of it. I can't pretend say I feel like I don't know saying it's like right now in its purest form which is like in my head and now getting it out there getting the first draft will be like Doc <hes> that's that's the hurdle now and then after that it's about getting out there which feels good in a different way I mean just to be asked about on double toasted. It's something I didn't actually picked you what happened. I sent that email to Corey with capital letters debut author. Maybe maybe Al-Said on it man. I guess what anybody who's going to be making a big one day. We can say we had I you you know she was ugly. I now look at you know man you any words of advice these people who want to write a novel. I feel like giving advices. I don't feel worthy of it as as my base give advice what you did it man you wrote some modest. Does it feel like I'm talking about. Sit Down and and do it for yourself. Make it so that and this the sound weird but I talked about this Corey Austin. We were grabbing a beer. Make it something that you're passionate about to the point where you feel like you're days had over until we've done a little bit to do that thing but maybe that's where I got insomnia last year fucking roundup writing this book so congratulations man. You know what you did to get it done accomplished. Something listen very modest. That's very cool. That's very nice accomplish something that a lot of people want to do and you just can't afford it. Don't it's not an easy thing to do man so yeah I promise you I poke holes in it every day you do. I poke holes in their everyday where up sale but I didn't do it this layer of course it's not as well. You're not an asshole so that's cool. Do you play next week and think that you do it perfectly. Every time was that human being produces anything perfect therefore the whole the fact that you're finding holes means that you're humble and you're able to grow and learn from those series T._J.. I'm Oh my my voice completely changes. He literally came on for an interview. I was like I love reading. I love it's a knockout your book <hes> probably Holly Sometime This next month and so I'm like I'm so excited to hear. Just I love hearing so much potential. You Send Me An audio book. Can I can do is there. They're linked to that. Did you give that to me. I'll buy it if you want me to just the audio books. I've seen this for you on the Stream. I'm a big Fan and essentially what I'm doing with spin is the same business model as double toasted. The audience free on soundcloud and Apple podcast was a whole bullying thing the whole thing. Oh it's a short reads. The audiobook is only about two hours and fifteen minutes. Oh Wow nice one reading. I got a voice actor directed Nice guys but this guy's awesome. He's industrious yeah well. I wish we could talk more but because a stream crash can't keep it up you know took a chunk of time out and plus. It's Isley. We've been here for a while but I wanted to get to men might be like a Murphy's law type like a bad luck charm release party a couple of weeks ago the the head of the coffee shop on. I mean you guys from Austin but it was like ninety. Seven degree heat in New York and the air conditioning broke in the air conditioning coffee shop broke signing people's books and like sweating onto the pages as I did like an autograph so how was Your D._N._a.. All right man well. I got his moisture alright. Brian Brag Gully L. E.. Everybody should be an inspiration. You created people out there. Just don't apply this to books plot to any kind of thing that you're doing in life of course Jon going and then you could be John Gully man check out a book is called Spin. Put up one more time for you. OUGHTA see there it is big red white and Blue American flag type lettuce and good job good job uses guys inspiration for yourself shouldn't have to be literature of income creativity life right Bijon golly be gone and we will see later congratulations man. Thanks thanks for having me all right bye-bye. We should all be John Going. Yes we liked it. I never know what is true. He said ninety seven degrees. My phone literally just said it's one hundred tomorrow. Yes five degrees. Call interesting one hundred now all right everybody sorry about the stream stop and I got to figure out what's going on with. This might have notifications on doing it. I don't know we'll get figured out but thank you thank you Martin Thank You T._J.. Yeah for asking questions and lending your wisdom and uh thanks for chipping in now Carlos Welcome back. Welcome back yeah. I'll get the fuck all right. See lleida Guy's <hes> not gonNA make a big. I'M GONNA make a big show out of leaving. I'm just GonNa go myself chat pass up. Thank you guys appreciate good having you here. Is that unreal that Dog Real T._J.. Dropping I don't know why that's puppies. They look at the big brain on that dog. I don't know it is thanks guys a link to the to the book on the page. Now I will do that please do yeah. Will you guys he's giving away so take it while put the link right down the site tonight and you guys can take it and listen to it and support the man and then I'm download in reposted soundcloud for my name shouldn't gave it away for free. Nobody no money from it. Anyway can get that soundcloud dollars money the way you say. I like to read like the still couldn't do this the stereotype that they're not mutually exclusive. He steals books. He's he's stealing Nali all right yeah. Thanks for sticking around Brian. I says hey thanks for sticking around and you can go your free but before you go remember you get a hold of his time open a keyboard cat cooman dot com and indeed dot com. 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