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"damien echols" Discussed on Skeptiko - Science at the Tipping Point

Skeptiko - Science at the Tipping Point

05:42 min | 1 year ago

"damien echols" Discussed on Skeptiko - Science at the Tipping Point

"And so as a particularly graphic. Brutal crime there was blood all over the place is never admitted in court, but the luminol tests were taken and so there was blood all over that area. And there was an outcry trying to figure out who did this? There was a suspect that was mentioned by a probation officer by the name of Jerry driver. You said that this young man by the name of Damian eccles real name given name was Michael Hutchison was is born name, but he changed his name to stepfather's last name and took on the name Damian. Answer. So he was investigating is brought into the on according to the court the records that are on the police records US brought into the police office. He was questioned failed a polygraph test. He said if I talked to, my mom will tell you everything. You let me talk to my mom. So when talked his mom that he clammed up? But the investigating investigation continued. They didn't have enough evidence to arrest any of them until they brought in another young man, the new Jesse Miskelly on June third of nineteen ninety-three. Then confessed and implicated miracles Jason Baldwin. And all three were arrested they were tried separately. due to some evidence that was going to be put in a trial. And Twenty four jurors found both guilty. Daming Damien echols was over eighteen. He was given the capital punishment And the other two pretty much got life sentences. And then there was the probably the key lever in creating doubt in the public's mind was the involvement of an HBO documentary. There was really trilogy. The first one was titled Paradise Lost which came out in nineteen, ninety six, and then there were two others that I think it was two, thousand, one, maybe two, thousand four I can't remember the exact dates when those came out but there were three the cast doubt upon the guilt the first one was someone of objective. but the second one kind of one of the stepfathers by the name of buyers and then the third one pretty much implicated another man by the name of Terry. Hobbs created kind of a furor it it snowballed other people involved celebrities got involved money was raised Possibly they're saying that huge amount of money tend to twenty million dollars probably the best appellate attorney out there got involved in put pressure on. The state government through new laws that had been created about DNA testing. and. There was going to be a hearing and twenty eleven. I think in December to judge whether some of the DNA could be used but in August twenty eleven agreement was reached. And the three pled guilty. So they already had all been found guilty. Plead guilty again to first degree murder admitted on signed documents. You know they're adults now but through the best attorneys really available. That there was enough evidence to possibly convict them again, they went to court there ten years of probation they were let out. While professing innocence on something called Alford plea, which is a Supreme Court case a based on a Supreme Court case called Alford the North Carolina. And Which allows you to professor innocence publicly while pleading guilty. So they're basically guilty. They're still guilty and under probation until next year I asked you to keep it vanilla and man you really kept it Vanilla 'cause Lemme. LemMe Kinda pull you into the real stuff like anyone who goes and Google's west Memphis three. I'm not exaggerating the first five, I ten second ten, third ten, satanic panic satanic panic satanic panic. That's the only thing you hear about this case it doesn't have anything to do with the facts. It's all. And that's what's going to be so interesting as we dive into this, why did this become the kind of poster child for Satanic Panic, and why do we think that that that's not accidental it's it's just it..

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"damien echols" Discussed on 760 KFMB Radio

760 KFMB Radio

04:26 min | 2 years ago

"damien echols" Discussed on 760 KFMB Radio

"Damien Echols Fuchsian under sanctions is. negative meatball shop. there you go bush on. they won last will use one last note the fight is on the bagel boss guy will be getting into the ring this Saturday in Atlantic city and there goes the last brick of our empire wow he will be facing none other than the screech from saved by the bell swear to god I was going to guess that now to be my first losing the fight scratch that's disgusting I won't watch signed guys it dog fights screech fought on may is when someone fox had their celebrity boxing young years ago that's like fifteen years ago right he fought horse that he fought **** shacking up the a much older horse track and much smaller and sickly it was discussed that he had it was just pretty rough the watchers seventies star got beat up by a late nineties early two thousand star not a surprise but so. now that dude is gonna fight bagel bought five feet tall. because the guy can't handle his temper. right here a psychological attack number yeah it's paper yeah I believe so how much will it cost me what I'm doing need to tune it aired it's Saturday at the landing city showboat hotel I'm sure if you got in touch with them they could tell he. might have to watch the spectacle of which is to see how it unfolds how the crowd reacts promise you don't have to watch. all right that your news the Marshall Phillips here I'm starting to get a show the conscience of the nation now this this will be remarked upon when Edward givens great great grand grand great great grand child writes the decline and fall of the American empire this moment Saturday night there may be tired chapter. as a really the end holy crap I wish there was some way to calculate the cost your soul of watching that. it was a no go again. much would you pay for a jacket was nineteen ninety five would you pay to salute Lee I'm in fifty boxes a wobble are probably above that I probably one day I can't watch skills thing I just I just I got to know how far we've gone. how far down have we gone. okay you get that though from a description and learn the ratings. I need this I need this field the field field here see you want to be a witness to history. below that is rough. current we have a lot of reaction to what's going on via the email line mailbag Armstrong get a dot com and some tangential topics like will we ever go back to some semblance of. bi partisanship and and yeah it says your described in the negative I guess not solar initial the rancor and bitterness and all I don't know that we will got a college football game in Maine in which one side there the mountaineers or something like that. good name in Maine or the marine maritime cat academy what are but anyway so they feel like a lot I will only not the mountaineer verses if it's the marina cat a lot of a lot of colleges do this a fire off a cane and it's part of their home thing will get fired if they came in and hit the referee in the face with a cannonball. you're supposed to shoot what I think. is he dead. do we know if this referee was good at his job well a clan X. I. cannon blast anyway. all attached but these wait a minute since it shows a loud bang a large public smoking a referee then grabbing his face and falling to the ground courageous terrible I've seen a civil war surgeon in the house I don't know who to blame Hey guy who fires off canon don't fire off of somebody standing right in front of a like the Bugs Bunny or Wile E. coyote or something. on the other hand Hey referee this probably isn't the first home game you've been to don't put your face in front of them you can have a feeling he was just doing his job. anyway so well we'll get to the reactions to this whole impeachment dustup coming up on the Armstrong get a show. one of the fashion.

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"damien echols" Discussed on KNST AM 790

KNST AM 790

13:29 min | 2 years ago

"damien echols" Discussed on KNST AM 790

"Just before the bottom of the hour. We were talking with John Douglas about serial killer police officers in that motif gets used all the time doesn't it about, you know, mostly in works of fiction about you. And I were not so different. You know, the killer tells the cop and the cop feels wonder one way or another about it. And but that that I think the idea of the, you know, cops and robbers that they're much more connected than they more common than they don't where are you with that? You were just talking about a case of a police officer who had committed serious crimes using the cover of the bad. Yeah. We we we didn't have a whole lot of those cases. I had a case out of San Diego where a a police officer who would teach rape possession ended up being a a rapist, and we're able to Lincoln forensically through a badge the fibers from. The basil. Badge on the victims that we got into the interrogation and were able to get that confession out of him. A big one. We did part of our thirty six serial killers. In the initial study was got him Gerald Shafer in Florida balanced from department to department small departments and and get rid of him. But they give him a good recommendation. Just so they can get get rid of him. He ended up getting caught. He he picked up two girls hitchhiking in his police vehicle took them to motel later on it came back. The next day to pick them up his personal car on his personal car. You had a trailer hitch and his thing would be sexual hanging. So he took these girls out into no. Oh, gosh. Girls got away got away. And then arrest was made. Then the search search was done of residents. We had diaries where he wrote about some freedoms crimes at the police never really tied anything to him. They found some Keith belonging to victims as well in search warrant. So he was good. He was convicted them onto they Lincoln liking about thirty thirty. And he was killed in nineteen ninety-five another inmate stabs into death in prison down in Florida. So when you hear that would you hear something like that does that bring you some sense of relief for Justice, or how do you how do you process that? Yeah. I I've I have when it comes to death valley. I've changed a little bit a little bit here. I was on a panel two weeks ago, New York with Amanda Knox. I helped them in the next get out of prison in Italy. And also heard of the case the west Memphis three. Oh, yeah. Totally. Yeah. Case for co series. And so I helped they mean Damien Echols was on the path. And Joe Berlinger was on the panel with mixed. I helped him get out of prison with Peter Jackson director Lord of the rings. Brought me in at the time. Everything was secret along with this group of forensic. You know, you know, experts. So you see cases like that. And now that I'm out of the bureau. I couldn't do these kind of cases in the bureau, but now out of euro, I've been helping on cases where I see false. Confessions have been than given by innocent people wrongful wrongful convictions like in the west Memphis three like Amanda Knox with where they bring in a tag team match the case of man that I've actually brought in ten police officers. Detectives who were interrogator attack team over forty hours to break down. And I always say an innocent person is easy to ensure gate. Than than the criminal himself or herself because the innocent person when they're curated like this by some say corrupt the investigator. They think the person being targeted that this will be over here that come out. I get my attorney they'll know that. But meanwhile, you can fast or you've you've signed a confession and problem too. Is that it should be required everywhere, including FBI FBI doesn't use. This is is the Cape tape the interrogation tape, the interviews. And I mean from the beginning to the end not not turning the tape record on after you got the con- because even or a scrupulous cop right facts of the case. Now, you regurgitating back. So all the jurors will hear is. Oh, yeah. Purser? He knew everything about the case. So. Him. Right. So. I changed. But when I see predatory types and his all kinds of evidence that we have all. Not just I witnessed testimony or some jailhouse snitch or something like that. That. Yeah. I I I worry, and I get a lot of calls from people are saying because my attitude when I when people say, oh, yeah. Prisons are full innocent. You know, people kinda sarcastically. But they are we have a case in Virginia here Norfolk four four four navy then independently confessed to a crime they had nothing to do with. And they got a confession. But then his DNA didn't match. But then they got him to give another navy man's name cough up a name. They did an interrogation the DNA. Did this what do four they got four actions? And the guys went to prison for years, and he finally got out not too many years ago. Joseph in Boston has a follow up question about police officers. Don't know why Joseph you're talking with John Douglas on coast to coast AM. And I wanna say hi to my friends this shade, tree, computer. Yes. I'm here. A blind person. We have a police officer a lot of them. Can you give your contact info out of the end? 'cause I don't I'm not too good. In case people need, we have a lot of people in prison that are innocent. What does one do when one is going to be questioned because I know police officer. I don't know personally. I saw the video that killed a guy that was in a fire, and he rammed and Ray he wasn't response. He blood all over this. And he was doing this in the way. This is said he did nothing and there were other police officers Ozark tastes the guy on the ground nineteen times one handle it. And if we ever get arrested. What should we do if especially for innocent and questions? Go ahead talk. You don't talk you. I don't care if it's your pulled over for traffic stop. I would tell my own children as you go. And and say, I want to have an attorney won't have it in Terni ITO represent right away. I'm not saying there is a small percentage and every look at the FBI as well. We have we have we'll have David Hanson, Robert hand says name gave information. Yeah. To russia. I mean, if you should not be taken to a room interrogated, you should require requests, you wanna speak to your your attorney as soon as soon as. Innocent. This will come out. But, but you know, you can manipulate the the nippy late someone either confessed do be browbeaten and a lot of initial people won't request an attorney. They don't think explain it to them. And but the tactics to us. I mean, you can be vulnerable. I mean, I've seen so many cases and or people even like Amanda stage with her just so people think she's guilty. There was no forensic evidence. Lincoln case, it was one guy. Rudy. Good day is. Forensics, bloody prints thing. Prince the fecal matter in the toilet. It's him. It's nine Amanda. It's not Ravi else. Licio the boyfriend nothing nothing the west Memphis three. They they ensure ah the kid with a seventy two I q you told them. There was cheese on the moon. Any would have agreed with you? And they broke them broke this down. He had nothing nothing to do. None. None of the crime. But they spent eighteen years in prison Damian spent ten on death row when they were finally freed, and unfortunately, the I I spoke to the district attorney says what do they want? What are they want? They want to be exonerated. And he says, well, I don't know. I don't know about that. What do you need? Why didn't know about exonerating because he was running for political office and. He was. Looking for, you know, this is so we're talking with John Douglas. You'll have a few more minutes, and then we'll get to open lines. But I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you at the very end of follow up question from this. But first, let's get to sue in Atlanta on a wildcard line on coast to coast AM for John Douglas, sue. Thanks for the completely creepy. Sound from silence of the lambs? I have a question for you. If I were your daughter or your little sister. What advice would you tell me to look out for or are these thick in just in the wrong place at around? No. I sometimes are. I mean, if you're you're. Interstate your car breaks down. And here comes the good Samaritan. And and offers you a ride you went from a low Ristic than we would write it up if you were murder a low risk victim. But the minute you went into vehicle that you didn't know who the person was in this car, you increase your your level too high risk high risk them. I tell my daughters, and because it affects me working with these crazy people have three three children when they were younger. I was very kind of overprotective of them. But but one of the things if you were dating if you're on some internet site match dot com or something like that the question my mother used to tell my sister. And she's exactly right. It's it's. If look to see what the relationship there exist between the person you like they just mail, and the the mother see what this relationship is like what he thinks of the mother how that mother really has some women get mad say this. But but what about the father all the father is important its mother NFL. But but Antonio cases of violent cases that we've seen we've seen that there is this dysfunctional. There is issues between the mother and the father almost eight the mother and the the sun, and that would be something a question to you know, to ask when I go walking or out, I'm always looking for potential problems, and I'll see girl with a headset on and she's walking around in a park. Someone can come right up on her. And she's listening to music can come right up on an attacker, and she would know. What what hitter? And so you just have to be careful, and these guys can tell you they can go in a bar, and they could they could see a bunch of women sitting on a barstools, and they can pick out the the girl that's having problems, maybe depressed. She's away. She's drinking our body posture. How she's sitting sitting at the bar and they'll move in. They could move in like a like a like jaws like. And like we said earlier in the hill comes the the Knight in shining Arbor. They can they can size people up pretty yeah. Pretty darn quick. So you're on a bar. I don't be alone. You better be with friends and the friends Betty he- all take care of each other. And look after each other. High-risk position. This back though to that idea of archetypes in you don't have to buy into it. But the the that idea of what is learned for little girls, or as other people talking about that a lot of these stories are really intended for for tweens for for people to have in your mind as you're going out into the world is your is your entering into young womanhood, or or or old hood, the little red riding hood motif of the wolf that then changes in order to lure. So the wolf is unsuccessful in the woods. But then you know, becomes the grandma in order to lure the girl. And she of course, but even the Hutzel and gretel motif..

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"damien echols" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

NewsRadio KFBK

09:46 min | 2 years ago

"damien echols" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

"But just before the bottom of the hour. We were talking with John Douglas about serial killer police officers in that motif gets used all the time doesn't it about, you know, mostly in works of fiction about you. And I were not so different. You know, the killer tells the cop and the cop feels wonder one way or another about it. And but that that duality I think the idea of the, you know, cops and robbers that they're much more connected than they have more common than they don't where are you with that? You were just talking about a case of a police officer who had committed serious crimes using the cover of the badge. We we didn't have a whole lot of those cases the head of a case out of San Diego where it was a a police officer who would teach rape prevention ended up being a a rapist, and we're able to Lincoln forensically through a badge the fibers from the bangle badge. We're on the victims that we got into the interrogation and able to get the concession out of him a big one we did part of our thirty six serial killers. In the initial study was guy named Gerald safer in Florida bounced from department to department small departments, and and they would get rid of him. But they would give him a good recommendation. Just so they could get get rid of him. He ended up getting caught. He he picked up two girls hitchhiking in his police vehicle took him to a motel later on it came back. The next day to pick them up in his personal car on his personal car trailer hitch and his thing would be sex. Hanging. So he took these girls out into no. Area up to the girls got away got away. And then the rest was made. But then the search search was done of residents. We had diaries where he wrote about some previous crimes at the police never really tied anything to him. They found some Keith belonging to victims as well in the search warrant, so he was good. He was convicted on to they Lincoln Lincoln about thirty thirty homicides, and he was killed in nineteen ninety-five another inmate stabs into death in prison down in Florida. So when you hear that would you hear something like that does that bring you some sense of relief for or Justice, or how do you how do you process that? Yeah. I. I have when it comes to death valley. I've changed a little bit a little bit here. I was on a panel two weeks ago New York with Amanda Knox, the Knox get out of prison in Italy. And they also heard of the case the west Memphis three. Oh, yeah. Totally. Yeah. I case very, and so I helped Damien Echols was on the path. And Joe Berlinger was on the panel with mix. I helped him get out of prison with Peter Jackson director Lord of the rings. Brought me in at the time. Everything was secret along with this group of forensic, you know, experts. So you see cases like that. And now that I'm out of the bureau. I I couldn't do these kind of cases in the bureau, but now out of the bureau, I've been helping on cases where I see false. Confessions have been been given by innocent people wrongful wrongful convictions like in the west Memphis three like Amanda Knox with where they bring in attack team the case, Amanda Knox. They brought in ten police officers. Detectives who were gonna interrogator attached team over forty hours to break down. And I always say an innocent person is easy to ensure gate. Than than the criminal himself or herself because the innocent person when they're curated light like this by some say, it's a corrupt the investigator. They think that the person being targeted that this will be over here that will come out. I get my attorney they'll know that. And but meanwhile, you can fast or you've you've signed a confession. And the problem too. Is that it should be required everywhere, including FBI FBI doesn't use. This is is the tape tape the interrogation tape, the interviews. And I mean from the beginning to the end not turning the tape record on after you got the confession. Because you've made or a scrupulous cop of facts of the case. Now, you regurgitating back. So all the jurors will hear is. Oh, yeah. He knew everything about the case. So he had to be him. So. So I changed. But when I see these predatory types, and is all kinds of evidence that we have all not just I witnessed testimony or some jailhouse snitch or something like that that I I I worry that. And I get a lot of calls from people are saying because my attitude when I when people say, oh, yeah. That prisons are full innocent. You know, people kind of sarcastically. But they are we have a case in Virginia here Norfolk four four four navy then independently confessed to a crime they had nothing to do with. And they got a concession. But then there's DNA didn't match. But then they got him to give another navy, man. Name cough up a name. They did an interrogation the DNA. Imagine this what four four. And they end the guys went to prison for years, and they finally got out not too many years ago. Joseph in Boston has a follow up question about police officers. Don't know Joseph you're talking with John Douglas on coast to coast AM. And I wanna say hi to my friends and shade tree, computer guy. Yes. I'm here. A blind person. We have a police officer. Can you give your contact info out of the end? 'cause I don't I'm not too good on the engine case people need we have a lot of people in prison that are innocent. What does one do when one is going to be questioned because I know police officer. I don't know personally. I saw the video that killed a guy that was in a fire, and he went rammed and Ray he wasn't respond. He blood all over this. And he was doing this in the witness said, he did nothing then there were other police officers Ozark the guy on the ground nineteen times at one handle it. And if we ever get arrested. What should we do if especially for innocent and questions go ahead? You don't talk. I don't care if it's you're pulled over for traffic. Stop. I tell my own children as you go. And and say, I want to have an attorney attorney ITO represent right away. I'm not saying there is a small percentage and every look at the FBI as well. We have we have percentage we'll have David Hanson, Robert Hanssen. Gave information. Yeah. To russia. You should not be taken to a room interrogated, and you should require request. You wanna speak to your your attorney as soon as soon as? Innocent. This will come out. But, but you know, you can nip you late the manipulate someone even to confessed do be browbeaten and a lot of innocent people won't request in an attorney. They don't because they think I'll explain it to them. And but the tactics that us. You can be vulnerable. I mean, I've seen so many cases and people even like Amanda stage with her so people think she's guilty. There was no forensic evidence. Lincoln case, it was one guy. Rudy good day is bloody prints thing. Prince the fecal matter in the toilet. It's him. It's not Amanda. It's not Ravi else. Licio the boyfriend that nothing nothing the west Memphis three. They they interrogate a kid with a seventy two I q you told them. There was cheese on the moon, any would've agreed with you and broke them. You know, broke this down. He had nothing, you know, nothing to do. None none of the crime. But they spent eighteen years in prison Damian spent ten on death row when they were finally freed. And fortunately the ice. I spoke to the that the district attorney says what do they want? What are they want? They want to be exonerated. And he says, well, I don't know. I don't know about. That what do you need turned out? Why you didn't know about exonerating because he was running for political office. Right. And he votes looking for, you know, this is so engine we're talking with John Douglas. You'll have a few more minutes, and then we'll get to open lines. But I'm going to. I'm going to ask you at the very end of follow up question from this. But first, let's get to sue in Atlanta on wildcard line on coast to coast AM for John Douglas, sue. Thanks.

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"damien echols" Discussed on KOA 850 AM

KOA 850 AM

09:53 min | 2 years ago

"damien echols" Discussed on KOA 850 AM

"NewsRadio eight fifty AM and ninety four one FM. But just before the bottom of the hour. We were talking with John Douglas about serial killer police officers in that motif gets used all the time doesn't it about, you know, mostly in works of fiction about you. And I were not so different. You know, the killer tells the cop and the cop, you know, feels wonder one way or another about it. And but that that duality I think the the idea of the, you know, cops and robbers that they're much more connected than they have more in common than they don't where are you with that? You were just talking about a case of a police officer who had committed serious crimes using the the cover of the badge. We we we didn't have a whole lot of those cases I had a case out of San Diego. Where was a a police officer who would teach rape prevention ended up being a a rapist, and we're able to link him forensically through. A badge the fibers from the basical badge. We're on the victims that we got into the interrogation and were able to get a confession out of him. A big one that we did part of our thirty six serial killers. In the initial study was got him Gerald Shafer in Florida he bounced from department to department small departments, and and they would get rid of him. But they would give him a good recommendation. Just so they can get get rid of him. He ended up getting caught. He he picked up two girls hitchhiking in his police vehicle took him to a motel in a later on it came back the next day to pick them up in his personal car on his personal car. He had a trailer hitch and his thing would be sexual hanging. So he took these girls out into no, no, no area. Oh, gosh. Hide them up and to the girls got away got away. And then the rest was made. But then the search search was done of his residence. We had. Diaries where he wrote about some previous crimes at the police never really tied anything to him. They found some Keith belonging to victims has well in in the search warrant, so he was good. He was convicted them onto they Lincoln linking him to about thirty thirty homicides. And he was killed in nineteen ninety-five. Another inmate stabbed him to death in prison down in Florida. So we knew here that would you hear something like that? Does that bring you some sense of relief for or Justice, or how do you how do you process that? Yeah. I I have when it comes to the death valley. I've changed a little bit a little bit here. I was on a panel two weeks ago, New York with Amanda Knox. I helped them in the Knox get out of prison in Italy. And also if you heard of the case, the west, Memphis three. Oh, yeah. Totally. Yeah. I felt that case very closely. And so I helped Damien Damien Echols was on the power. And Joe Berlinger was on the panel with mix. I helped him get out of prison with Peter Jackson director Lord of the rings wrote me in at the time. Everything was secret along with this group of forensic. You know, you know, experts. So you see cases like that. And now that I'm out of the bureau. I I couldn't do these kind of cases in the bureau, but now out of the bureau, I've been helping on cases where I I see false. Confessions have been been given a by innocent people wrongful wrongful convictions like in the west Memphis three like Amanda Knox with where they bring in a tag team match the case of man that I know actually brought in ten police officers. Detectives who are gonna interrogator attack team you're over forty hours to break down. And and I always say an innocent person is easy to ensure gate. And then the criminal himself or herself because the innocent person when they're at your gated like, you know, like this by some say corrupt the investigator. They think that the person being targeted. Well, this will be over here. The truth will come out. I get my attorney. They'll know that. And but meanwhile, you confess or you've you've signed a confession and problem too. Is that it should be required everywhere, including the FBI FBI doesn't use. This is is the tape tape the interrogation tape, the interviews. And and I mean from the beginning to the end not not turning the tape recorder on after you got the confession because you've made or a scrupulous cop me it facts of the case. Now, you regurgitating back. So all the jurors will hear is oh gosh just person he knew everything about the case. So he had to be him. So so I I I changed. But when I see these predatory types I, and is there's all kinds of evidence that we have all, you know, not just. I witnessed testimony or some jailhouse snitch or something like that. That. Yeah. I I I worry that. And I get a lot of calls from people were saying because my attitude when I when people say Minnesota medicine. Oh, yeah. That prisons are full innocent. It is you know, people kind of start cast. But they are we have a case in Virginia here Norfolk four four four navy then independently confessed to a crime they had nothing to do with. And and they got a confession. But then his DNA didn't match. But then they got him to give another navy man's name cough up a name. They did an interrogation the DNA did enact this one four. They got four. And the and the guys went to prison for years, and he finally got out not too many years ago. I think Joseph in Boston has a follow up question about police officers. Don't know why. But Joseph you're talking with John Douglas on coast to coast AM. And I wanna say hi to my friends, and they treat computer. Yes. I'm here. I'm a blind person. We have a police officer a lot of them. And can you give your contact info out of the end? 'cause I don't I'm not too good on the case people need we have a lot of people in prison that are innocent. What does one do when one is going to be questioned because I know police officer. I don't know him. Personally. I saw the video that killed a guy that was in a fire, and he went rammed and rave, they he wasn't response. He blood all over this. And he was doing this in the witnesses said he did nothing and there were other police officers Ozark, the taste the guy on the ground nineteen times. How does one handle it? And if we ever get arrested. What should we do if especially for innocent and questions? Go ahead talk. You don't talk. You you you? I don't care if it's you're pulled over for traffic. Stop. I I would tell my own children as you go. And and say, no, I I want to have an attorney attorney, you know, represent right away. Is that me? 'cause I'm not saying there is a small percentage and every look at the FBI as well. We have a we have a it. We'll have like David Hanson, Robert Hansen's name give information you have to you know, to Russia via its. I mean, if you should not be paid into a room interrogated, and you should require or request. You wanna speak to your to your attorney as soon as as soon as right away. You. You think I'm innocent. This will come out. But, but you know, you can manipulate behavior manipulate someone either to confessed do be browbeaten and a lot of innocent people won't request an attorney. They don't because they think I'll explain it to them. And but the tactics of the us I mean, you can be vulnerable. I I mean, I've seen so many cases, and we're people even like Amanda Knox stage with her. Just so people think she's guilty. There was no forensic evidence. Lincoln case there was one guy. Rudy. Good day is forensic bloody prints thing a prince a fecal matter in the toilet. It's him. It's nine Amanda. It's not Rafeal. Switch it over the boyfriend nothing. Nothing the west Memphis three, they they interrogate a kid with seventy two I q you could have told them. There was cheese on the moon, and he would have agreed with you. And they broke them. You know, the broke this kid down. He had nothing, you know, nothing to do. None. None of them have anything to do with the crime. But they spent eighteen years in prison Damian spent ten on death row when they were finally freed, and unfortunately, the I spoke to the that the district attorney, and he says what do they want? What are they want? They want to be exonerated. And he says, well, I don't know. I don't know about that. Yeah. What do you you don't know? I I don't know. And I turned out why he didn't know about exonerating him because he was running for political office. Right. And he was. Votes looking for, you know, this is so we're talking with John Douglas. You'll have a few more minutes, and then we'll get to open lines. But I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you at the very end a follow up question from this. But first, let's get to sue in Atlanta on wildcard line on coast to coast AM for John Douglas, sue. Thanks for.

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"damien echols" Discussed on KGO 810

KGO 810

10:08 min | 2 years ago

"damien echols" Discussed on KGO 810

"Now more of to coast AM on K G O eight ten. Just before the bottom of the hour. We were talking with John Douglas about serial killer police officers in that motif gets used all the time doesn't it about, you know, mostly in works of fiction about you. And I were not so different. You know, the killer tells the cop and the cop feels wonder one way or another about it. And but that that -ality I think the idea of the, you know, cops and robbers that they're much more connected than they have more common than they don't where are you with that? You were just talking about a case of a police officer who had committed serious crimes using the the cover of the badge. Yeah. We we. We didn't have a whole lot of those cases. I had a case out of San Diego where a a police officer who would teach rake possession ended up being a a rapist, and we're able to Lincoln forensically through a badge the fibers from the. Vasovagal badge where on the victims that we got into the interrogation. We're able to get that concession out of him. A big one that we did part of our thirty six serial killers. In the initial study was got him Gerald Shafer in Florida ballots from department to department small departments, and and would get rid of him. But they give him a good recommendation. Just so they can get get rid of him. He ended up getting caught. He he picked up two girls were hitchhiking in his police vehicle took him to a motel and later on it came back the next day to pick them up in his personal car on his personal car had a trailer hitch and his thing would be sexual hanging. So he took these girls out. No, no area. Gosh. Up to the girls got away got away. And then arrest was made. But then the search search was done of residents. We had diaries or where he wrote about some freedoms crimes at the police never really tied anything to him. They found some Keith the longing to victims as well in the search warrant, so he was good. He was convicted them onto they Lincoln Lincoln about thirty thirty homicides, and he was killed in nineteen ninety five and other inmate stabbed them to death in prison down in Florida. So when you hear that would you hear something like that does that bring you some sense of relief for or Justice, or how do you how do you process that? Yeah. I I have. Desk. Palley I've changed a little bit a little bit here. I was on a panel two weeks ago New York with Amanda Knox, the Knox get out of prison in an Italy. And also heard of the case the west Memphis three. Oh, yeah. Totally. Yeah. I case very close. And so I helped they me and Damien Echols was on the path. And Joe Berlinger was on the panel with mixed. I helped him get out of prison with Peter Jackson director Lord of the rings brought me and at the time everything was secret along with this group of forensic. You know, you know, experts. So you see cases like that. And now that I'm out of the bureau. I I couldn't do these cases in the bureau, but now out of euro, I've been helping on cases where I see false. Confessions have been that given by innocent people wrongful wrongful convictions like in the west Memphis, three like Amanda Knox with where they bring in a tag team the case a man that I know they brought in ten police officers. Detectives who are interrogator attack team over forty hours to break down. And I always say an innocent person is easy to interrogate than than the criminal himself or herself because the innocent person when they're curated. Like this by some say, it's corrupt the investigator. They think that the person being targeted at this will be over here to come out. I get my attorney del know that but meanwhile, you can fast or you've you've signed a confession. And the problem too. Is that it should be required everywhere, including FBI FBI doesn't use. This is is the tape taped interrogation tape, the interviews. And I mean from the beginning to the end not not turning the tape recorder on after you got the confession because even or a scrupulous cop me. Facts of the case. Now, you regurgitating back. So all the jurors will hear is. Oh, gosh. Just personally he knew everything about the case so him so. I changed. But when I see these predatory types, and there's all kinds of evidence that we have all. Yeah. Not just I witnessed the money or some jailhouse snitch or something like that that I I I worry that. And I get a lot of calls from people are saying 'cause my attitude when I when people say. Oh, yeah. That prisons are full of innocent people kinda sarcastically. But they are we have a case in Virginia here Norfolk four four four navy then independently confessed to a crime they had nothing to do with. And they got a concession. But then his DNA match. But then they got him to give another navy, man. Name cough up a name. They did an interrogation the DNA match. This what do four they got four nations'. And they end the guys went to prison for years, and they finally got out not too many years ago. Joseph in Boston has a follow up question about police officers. Don't know why Joseph you're talking with John Douglas on coast to coast AM. And I wanna say hi to my friends shade, tree, computer. Yes. A blind person. We have a police officer a lot of them. And can you give your contact info out of the end? 'cause I don't I'm not too good. In case people need, we have a lot of people in prison that are what does one do when one it's going to be questioned because I know police officer. I don't know personally. I saw the video that killed a guy that was in a fire and he went rammed. And Ray he wasn't response. He blood all over this. And he was doing this in the way this said he did nothing and there were other police officers Ozark, the taste the guy on the ground nineteen times handle, and if we ever get arrested. What should we do if Besley for innocent? And okay. Questions. Go ahead on talk. You don't talk you you. I don't care if you're pulled over for traffic stop. I would tell my own children as you go. And and say I want to. Have an attorney attorney represent right away. That may cause I'm not saying there is a small percentage and every look at the FBI as well. We have we have percents. We'll have David has Robert has his name was Hanson gave information you know, to Russia via. I mean, if you should not be taken to a room interrogated, and you should require requests, you wanna speak to your your attorney as soon as as soon as right away. Probably because you're innocent. This will come out. But, but you know, you can manipulate the the nippy late someone either to confessed to being browbeaten d- and a lot of innocent people won't request an attorney. They don't think I'll explain it to them. And but the tactics of the us. I mean, you can be vulnerable. I mean, I've seen so many cases, and or people even like a man that I stayed with her. People think she's guilty. There was no forensic evidence. Lincoln case, there was one guy day is. Prince thing prince the fecal matter in the toilet. It's him. It's not Amanda. It's not Ravi else. Let the boyfriend nothing nothing the west Memphis three they they interrogate a kid with a seventy two I q you could've told them. There was cheese on the moon, and he would have agreed with you. And they broke them. You know, the broke the this kid down. He had nothing nothing to do. None. None of them out do with the crime. But they spent eighteen years in prison Damian spent ten on death row when they were finally freed. And fortunately, the I spoke to the that the district attorney says what are they want? What are they want? They want to be exonerated. And he says, well, I don't know. I don't know about that. What do you need know an turned out? Why he didn't know about exonerating because he was running for political office. Right. And he votes looking for, you know, this is so we're talking with John Douglas. You'll have a few more minutes, and then we'll get to open lines. But I'm gonna. I'm gonna ask you at the very end of follow up question from this. But first, let's get to sue in Atlanta on a wildcard line on coast to coast AM for John Douglas, sue. Thanks for the completely creepy. Sound from silence of the lambs? I have a question for you. If I were your daughter or your little sister..

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"damien echols" Discussed on KNST AM 790

KNST AM 790

13:17 min | 2 years ago

"damien echols" Discussed on KNST AM 790

"The bottom of the hour. We were talking with John Douglas about serial killer police officers in that motif gets used all the time doesn't it about, you know, mostly in works of fiction about you. And I were not so different. You know, the killer tells the cop and the cop, you know, feels wonder one way or another about it. And but that that duality I think the that idea the, you know, cops and robbers that they're much more connected than they have more in common than they don't where are you with that? You were just talking about a case of a police officer who had committed serial crimes using the cover of the badge. Yeah. We we we didn't have a whole lot of those cases had case out of San Diego. Where a a police officer who would teach rape prevention ended up being a rapist, and we're able to Lincoln forensically through a badge the fibers from the basil badge. We're on the victims that we got into the interrogation and were able to get a confession out of him. A big one that we did part of our thirty six uh serial killers. In the initial study got him Gerald Shafer in Florida bounce from department to department small departments, and and it would get rid of him. But they would give him a good recommendation. Just so they can get get rid of him. He ended up getting caught. He he picked up two girls hitchhiking in his police vehicle took him to a motel and later on it came back the next day to pick them up in his personal car on his personal car. He had a trailer hitch and his thing would be sex. Jewel hanging. So he took these girls out into no gosh. Up to one of the girls got away got away. And then the rest was made. But then the search search was done of residents. We had diaries where he wrote about some freebies crimes at the police never really tied anything to him. They found some Keith belonging to victims as well in the search warrant, so he was good. He was convicted on onto they Lincoln like about thirty thirty homicides, and he was killed in nineteen ninety-five. Another inmate stabbing today in prison down in Florida. So when you hear that when you hear something like that does that bring you some sense of relief or or Justice, or how do you how do you process that? Yeah. I I have when it comes to death valley. I've changed a little bit a little bit here. I was on a panel. Two weeks ago, New York with Amanda Knox. I helped him in the next get out of prison in Italy. And also heard of the case the west north is three. Oh, yeah. Totally. Yeah. I felt that case very close. And so I helped they mean Damien Echols was on the path. And Joe Berlinger was on the panel with helped him get out of prison with Peter Jackson director Lord of the rings. Brought me in at the time. Everything was secret along with this group of forensic. You know, you know, experts. So you see cases like that. And now that I'm out of the bureau. I I couldn't do these kind of cases in the bureau, but now out of the bureau, I've been helping on cases where I I see false. Confessions have been than given by innocent people wrongful wrongful convictions like in the west Memphis, three like Amanda Knox with where they bring in a tag team match the case a man that I know they brought in ten police officers. Detectives who interrogator attack team over forty hours to break down. And I always say an innocent person is easy to interrogate than than the criminal himself or herself because the innocent person when they're curated like like this by some say, it's a corrupt the investigator. They think that the person being targeted this will the over here that will come out. I get my attorney they'll know that. And but meanwhile, you can fast or you've you've signed a confession and problem too. Is that it should be required everywhere, including FBI FBI doesn't use. This is is the tape tape the interrogation tape, the interviews. And I mean from the beginning to the end not not turning the tape recorder on after you got the confession because even or a scrupulous cop, right facts. The case. Now, you regurgitating back. So all the jurors will hear is. Oh, yeah. Just personally he knew everything about the case. So him, right. So. I changed. But when I see these predatory types, and there's all kinds of evidence that we have all not just I witnessed testimony or some jailhouse snitch or something like that that. Yeah. I I I worry that. And I get a lot of calls from people are saying in 'cause my attitude when I when people say, oh, yeah. That prisons are fully innocent people kinda sarcastically. But they are we have a case in Virginia here north four four four navy then independently confess to a crime they had nothing to do with. And they got a confession. But then his DNA didn't match. But then they got him to give another navy man's name cough up a name. They did an interrogation the DNA. Imagine this four they got four. And they end the guys went to prison for years, and they finally got out not too many years ago. Joseph in Boston has a follow up question about police officers. Don't know why Joseph you're talking with John Douglas on coast to coast AM. And I wanna say hi to my friends, treat, computer. Yes. I'm here. A blind person. We have a police officer a lot of them. And can you give your contact info out at the end? 'cause I don't I'm not too good on the engine case people need we have a lot of people in prison that are innocent. What does one do when one is going to be questioned because I know police officer. I don't know personally. I saw the video that killed a guy that was in a fire, and he rammed and Ray he wasn't response. He blood all over this. And he was doing this in the witnesses said he did nothing, and there were other police officers Ozark, the taste the guy on the ground nineteen times one handle, and if we ever get rested. What should we do if especially for innocent and okay questions? Go ahead talk. You don't talk you you. I don't care if it's your pulled over for traffic stop. I would tell my own children as you go. And and say, I want to have an attorney we'll have it in Terni, you know, represent right away that me. I'm not saying that is small percentage and every look at the FBI as well. We have we have a Senate. We'll have David Hanson, Robert Hansen's name. Gave information you have to know to Russia. I mean, if you should not be taken to a room interrogated, and you should require request. You wanna speak to your your attorney as soon as as soon as right away. Because you're innocent. This will come out. But, but you know, you can manipulate the eighty the nippy late someone either to confessed do be browbeaten and a lot of innocent people won't request an attorney. They don't they think. Well, explain it to them. And but the tactics that use I mean, you can be vulnerable. I mean, I've seen so many cases and or people even like Amanda stage with her just so people think she's guilty. There was no forensic evidence. Lincoln her case, it was one guy. Rudy. Good day is. Bloody prints thing. Prince the fecal matter in the toilet. It's him. It's nine Amanda. It's not Ravi else. Let you know the boyfriend nothing nothing the west Memphis three they interrogate a kid with a seventy two. I q told them. There was cheese on the moon. Any would have agreed with you? And they broke them. You know, broke this down. He had nothing, you know, nothing to do. None. None of anything to do with the crime. But he spent eighteen years in prison Damian spent ten on death row when they were finally freed. And fortunately, the I spoke to the that the district attorney says what did they want? What are they want? They want to be exonerated. And he says, well, I don't know. I don't know about that. What do you need know? Well, I don't know. I turned out why didn't know about exonerating because he was running for political office. Right. And. Was. Looking for you know, this is so engine we're talking with John Douglas. You'll have a few more minutes, and then we'll get to open lines. But I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you at the very end of follow up question from this. But first, let's get to sue in Atlanta on wildcard line on coast to coast AM for John Douglas, sue. Thanks to the completely creepy. Song from silence of the lambs. Anyway, I have a question for you. If I were your daughter or your little sister. What advice would you tell me to look out for or are these sticking just in the wrong place at around. No, I sometimes yard. I mean, if you're you're interstate your car breaks down and here comes the good Samaritan. And and offers you a ride you went from a low Ristic than we would write it up. If you were murdered a low, restrict them, but the minute you went into vehicle that you didn't know who the person was in this car, you increase your your level too, high risk high risk, I tell my daughters, and because it affects me working with these crazy people have three three children when they were younger. I was very kind of overprotective of them. But but one of the things if you were dating if you're on some internet site match dot com or something like that the question my mother used to tell my sister. And she's exactly right. It's it's look to see what the relationship there exist between the person you like, they just mail and the and the mother. See what this relationship is. Like, what do you think? So the mother what how that mother really has some women get mad say this. But, but what about the father all the father is employed, and it's its mother NFL there. But but Antonis cases of violent cases that we've seen we've seen that there is this dysfunction. There is issues between the mother and the father almost hate the mother and the and the sun, and that would be something a question to you know, to ask look at when I go walking or out. I'm always looking for potential problems, and I'll see girl with a headset on and she's walking around in a park. Someone can come right up on her and she's listening to music can come right up and attacker, and she would know what what hit or and so you just have to be careful, and these guys can tell you they can go in a bar. And they could they could see a bunch of women sitting on a bar stools, and they can pick out the girl. That's having problems maybe depressed. She's away. She's drinking body posture. How she's sitting sitting at the bar and they'll move in. They could move in like a like a like jaws like. And like we said earlier in the comes the the Knight in shining Arbor. They can they can size people up pretty yeah. Pretty darn quick. So you're on the bar. I don't be alone. You better be with friends and the friends Betty you all to take care of each other. And look after each other. High-risk position. This is back though to that idea of archetypes, and you don't have to buy into it. But the the that idea of what is learned for little girls, or as other people talking about that a lot of these stories are really intended for for tweezers for for people to have in your mind as you're going out into the world is your is your entering into young womanhood, or or or gold hood, the little red riding hood motif of the wolf that then changes in order to lure..

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"damien echols" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM

News Radio 920 AM

09:55 min | 2 years ago

"damien echols" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM

"Twenty four seven FM. But just before the bottom of the hour. We were talking with John Douglas about serial killer police officers in that motif gets used all the time doesn't it about, you know, mostly in works of fiction about you. And I we're not so different. You know, the killer tells the cop and the cop feels wonder one way or another about it. And but that that to -ality, I think the that idea the, you know, cops and robbers that they're much more connected than they have more in common than they don't where are you with that? You were just talking about a case of a police officer who had committed serious crimes using the the cover of the bad. We we didn't have a whole lot of those cases case out of San Diego. Where was a a police officer who would teach. Ended up being a a rapist, and we able to link him forensically through a badge the fibers from the badge. We're on the victims that we got into the interrogation, and we're able to get a confession out of him. A big one that we did our thirty six serial killers. In the initial study was named Gerald Shafer in Florida he bounced from department to department small departments, and and they would get rid of him. We give him a good recommendation. Just get get rid of him. He ended up getting caught. He he picked up two girls hitchhiking in his police vehicle took him to a motel later on it came back. The next day to pick them up in his personal car on his personal car trailer hitch and his thing would be sexual hanging. So he took these girls out into no. Up to the girls got away got away. And then the rest was made. Then the search was done residents. We had diaries where he wrote about some previous crimes at the police never really tied anything to him. They found some Keith belonging to victims as well in search warrant. So he was good. He was convicted on to they Lincoln Lincoln about thirty thirty homicides, and he was killed in nineteen ninety-five. Another inmate stabbed them to death in prison down in Florida. So when you hear that would you hear something like that does that bring you some sense of relief for Justice, or how do you how do you process that? Yeah. I I have when it comes to death penalty. I've changed a little bit a little bit. Here. I was on a panel two weeks ago in New York with Amanda Knox. Get out of prison in Italy. And also heard of the case the west is three. Oh, yeah. Totally. Yeah. Case very coasters. And so I helped Damien Echols was on the path. And Joe Berlinger was on the panel with mix. I helped him get out of prison with Peter Jackson director Lord of the rings. Brought me in at the time. Everything was secret along with this group of forensic. You know, you know, experts. So you see cases like that. And now that I'm out of the bureau. I I couldn't do these kind of cases in the bureau, but now out of euro, I've been helping on cases where I I see false. Confessions have been given by innocent people wrongful wrongful convictions like in the west Memphis three like Amanda Knox with where they bring in attack the case, Amanda Knox. They brought in ten police officers. Detectives who interrogator. Attack team over forty hours to break down and always say an innocent person is easy to ensure gate, and then the Kremlin himself or herself because the innocent person when they're curated by some say corrupt the investigator. They think that the person being targeted. Well, this will be over here. I get my attorney that and but meanwhile, you can fast or you've you've signed a confession. And the problem too. Is that it should be required everywhere, including FBI FBI doesn't use. This is is the tape hate the interrogation tape, the interviews. And and I mean from the beginning to the end not turning the tape recorder on you got the confession because even or a scrupulous copy of facts of the case. Now, you regurgitating back. So all the jurors here is just person he knew everything about the case. He him. So I changed. But when I see these predatory types, and is this all kinds of evidence that we have all. Not just I witnessed testimony or some jailhouse snitch or something like that that I I I worry that. And I get a lot of calls from people are saying because my attitude when I when people say. Oh, yeah. The prisons are full innocent. It is, you know, people kind of sarcastically. But they are we have a case in Virginia here north four four four navy then independently confessed to a crime that nothing to do with. And they got a confession. But then his DNA didn't match. But then they got him to give another navy, man. Name cough up a name. They did an interrogation the DNA. Four four. And the guys went to prison for years, and he finally got out not too many years ago. Joseph in Boston has a follow up question about police officers. Don't know why Joseph you're talking with John Douglas on coast to coast AM. Good morning. And I wanna say hi to my friends shade, tree, computer. Yes, I'm here. A blind person. We have a police officer. Can you give your contact info at the end? 'cause I don't I'm not the case people need we have a lot of people in prison that are innocent. What does one do when one is going to be questioned because I know police officer personally, I saw the video that killed a guy that was in a fire, and he went rammed and Ray he wasn't respond. He blood all over this. And he was doing this in the witness said, he did nothing then there were other police officers, the taste the guy on the ground nineteen times and handle it. And if we ever get arrested. What should we do for innocent and questions? Go ahead talk. You don't talk you. I don't care if it's your pulled over for traffic. Stop. My own children as you go in and say, I want to have an attorney attorney represent right away. Because I'm not saying there is a small percentage and every look at the FBI as well. We have we have a percentage, we'll have David Hanson, Robert Hanssen. Gave information you have to you know to Russia via. You should not be taken to a room interrogated. You should require requests you wanna speak to your to your attorney as soon as as soon as. Innocent. This will come out. But, but you know, you can manipulate behavior you manipulate someone even confessed do be browbeaten and a lot of innocent people won't request an attorney. They they don't they think explain it to them. And but the tactics of the us. I mean, you can be vulnerable. I mean, I've seen so many cases and or people even like, Amanda. Stayed with her. People think she's guilty. There was no forensic evidence. Lincoln case there was one guy. Rudy day is. Bloody prints thing. Prince the fecal matter in the toilet. It's him. It's nine Amanda. It's not rough yells the boyfriend nothing nothing the west Memphis three. They they interrogate a kid with seventy two I q you told them. There was cheese on the moon. Any would have agreed with you and broke them. You know, the broke the this kid down. He had nothing, you know, nothing to do. None of them out. Crime. But they spent eighteen years in prison Damian spent ten on death row when they were finally freed. And fortunately the ice. I spoke to the that the district attorney says what do they want? What do they want? They want to be exonerated. And he says, well, I don't know about that. Yeah. What do you need? Why didn't know about exonerating because he was running for political office, and he votes. Yes. Looking for, you know, this is so we're talking with John Douglas. You'll have a few more minutes, and then we'll get to open lines. But I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you at the very end of follow up question from this. But first, let's get to do in Atlanta on wildcard line on coast to coast AM for John Douglas, sue. I.

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"damien echols" Discussed on WTVN

WTVN

09:45 min | 2 years ago

"damien echols" Discussed on WTVN

"But just before the bottom of the hour. We were talking with John Douglas about serial killer police officers in that motif gets used all the time doesn't it about, you know, mostly in works of fiction about you. And I were not so different. You know, the killer tells the cop and the cop feels wonder one way or another about it. And but that that duality I think the idea of the, you know, cops and robbers that they're much more connected than they have more in common than they don't where are you with that? You were just talking about a case of a police officer who had committed serious crimes using the the cover of the badge. Yeah. We we. We didn't have a whole lot of those cases. I had a case out of San Diego where a a police officer who would teach rape prevention ended up being a a rapist, and we're able to Lincoln forensically through a badge the fibers from. The basil badge. We're on the victims that we got into the interrogation and were able to get a confession out of him. A big one that we did part of our thirty six serial killers. In the initial study got him Gerald Shafer in Florida ballots from department to department small departments, and and they would get rid of him. But they would give him a good recommendation. Just so they can get get rid of him ended up getting caught. He he picked up two girls hitchhiking in his police vehicle took him to a motel and later on it came back the next day to take them up in his personal car on his personal car. He had a trailer hitch and his thing would be sexual hanging. So he took these girls out into no, no area. Oh, gosh. Hi, them up to one of the girls got away got away. And then the rest was made. But then the search search was done of residents. We had diaries where he wrote about some freebies crimes at the police. Never really tied anything to him. They found some Keith the longing to victims as well in the search warrant, so he was good. He was convicted them onto they Lincoln like about thirty thirty homicides, and he was killed in nineteen ninety five and other inmate stabbing death in prison down in Florida. So when you hear that would you hear something like that does that bring you some sense of relief for or Justice, or how do you how do you process that? Yeah. I I've I have when it comes to the desk valley, I've changed a little bit a little bit here. I was on a panel two weeks ago, New York with Amanda Knox. I helped them in the next get out of prison in an Italy. And also heard of the case the west Memphis three. Oh, yeah. Totally. Yeah. I felt like very close. And so I helped they me Damien Echols was on the path. And Joe Berlinger was on the panel with mixed. I helped him get out of prison with Peter Jackson director Lord of the rings. Brought me in at the time. Everything was secret along with this group of forensic. You know, you know, experts. So you see cases like that. And now that I'm out of the bureau. I I couldn't do these kind of cases in the bureau, but now out of euro, I've been helping on cases where I I see false. Confessions have been that given by innocent people wrongful wrongful convictions like in the west Memphis three like Amanda Knox with where they bring in a tag team the case, Amanda Knox. They brought in ten police officers. Detectives who are gonna interrogator attack team over forty hours to break down and always say an innocent person is easy to ensure agape than than the criminal himself or herself because the innocent person when they're curated this by some say corrupt the investigator. They think that the person being targeted well. This will be over here. The truth will come out. I get my attorney they'll know that. And but meanwhile, you can fast or you've you've signed a confession and problem too. Is that it should be required everywhere, including FBI FBI doesn't use. This is is the tape tape the interrogation tape, the interviews. And I mean from the beginning to the end not turning the tape recorder on after you got the confession because even or a scrupulous copy of facts of the case. Now, you regurgitating back. So all the jurors will hear is. Oh, yeah. Just personally he knew everything about the case so him so. I changed. But when I see these predatory types I and there's all kinds of evidence that we have all. Not just I witnessed testimony or some jailhouse snitch or something like that. That. I I I worry at and I get a lot of calls from people are saying in 'cause my attitude when I when people say, oh, yeah. That prisons are fully innocent people kinda sarcastically. But there we have a case in Virginia here Norfolk four four four navy then independently confess to a crime that nothing to do with. And they got a confession. But then his DNA didn't match. But then they got him to give another navy, man. Name cough up a name. They did an interrogation the DNA to match this do four they got four. And they guys went to prison for years, and they finally got out not too many years ago. Joseph in Boston has a follow up question about police officers. Don't know why Joseph you're talking with John Douglas on coast to coast AM. And I wanna say hi to my friends shade, tree, computer. Yes. A vine person we have a police officer a lot of them. And can you give your contact info out of the end? 'cause I don't I'm not too good on the engine case people need we have a lot of people in prison that are innocent. What does one do when one is going to be questioned because I know police officer. I don't know personally. I saw the video that killed a guy that was in a fire and he went rammed. And Ray he wasn't response. He blood all over this. And he was doing this in the witness said he did nothing, and there were other police officers Ozark taste the guy on the ground nineteen times at twenty handle it, and if we ever get arrested, what should we do especially for innocent? And. Okay questions. Go ahead talk. You don't talk you. I don't care if it's your pulled over for traffic stop. I would tell my own children as you go. And and say, I want to have an attorney attorney, you know, represent right away. That may cause I'm not say there is a small percentage and every look at the FBI as well. We have we have Senate we'll have David hazard Robert hand says name. New information you have to you know to Russia via. I mean, you should not be taken to a room interrogated. You should require requests you wanna speak to your to your attorney as soon as as soon as. You think? Innocent. This will come out. But, but you know, you can manipulate the the nippy late someone even the confessed to be browbeaten. And a lot of innocent people won't request in an attorney. They don't because they think I'll explain it to them. And but the tactics that use I mean, you can be vulnerable. I mean, I've seen so many cases, and or people even like a man that I stayed with her just so people think she's guilty. There was no forensic evidence. Lincoln case, it was one guy day is Francis. Prince thing prince a fecal matter in the toilet. It's him. It's not a MandA. It's not Rafeal. Switch it. Oh, the boyfriend nothing. Nothing the west Memphis three they they interrogate a kid with seventy two I q you could've told them. There was cheese on the moon any would've agreed with you. And they broke them. You know, broke the this kid down. He had nothing nothing to do. None of them out anything to do with the crime. But they spent eighteen years in prison Damian spent ten on death row when they were finally freed. And unfortunately, the I spoke to the that the district attorney says what do they want what they want? They want to be exonerated. And he says, well, I don't know. I don't know about that. What do you need know? Well, I don't know. And I turned out why you didn't know about exonerated him because he was running for political office, and he votes looking for, you know, this is so we're talking with John Douglas. You'll have a few more minutes and then. Then we'll get to open lines. But I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you at the very end of follow up question from this. But first, let's get to sue in Atlanta on a wildcard line on coast to coast AM for John Douglas, sue. Thanks.

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"damien echols" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM

WIBC 93.1FM

09:46 min | 2 years ago

"damien echols" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM

"But just before the bottom of the hour. We were talking with John Douglas about serial killer police officers in that motif gets used all the time doesn't it about, you know, mostly in works of fiction about you. And I were not so different. You know, the killer tells the cop and the cop feels wonder one way or another about it. And but that that duality I think the idea of the, you know, cops and robbers that they're much more connected than they have more in common than they don't where are you with that? You were just talking about a case of a police officer who had committed serial crimes using the cover of the badge. Yeah. We we. We didn't have a whole lot of those cases. I had a case out of San Diego where a a police officer who would teach rape prevention ended up being a rapist, and we're able to Lincoln forensically through a badge the fibers from. The basical badge. We're on the victims that we got into the interrogation. We're able to get a concession out of him. A big one that we did part of our thirty six serial killers. In the initial study was got him Gerald Shafer in Florida. He balanced from department to department small departments, and and would get rid of him. But they would give him a good recommendation. Just so they can get get rid of him. He ended up getting caught. He he picked up two girls hitchhiking in this. Police vehicle took him to a motel and later on it came back the next day to pick them up in his personal car on his personal car. He had a trailer hitch and his thing would be sexual hanging. So he took these girls out into no, no area. Gosh item up to one of the girls got away got away. And then the rest was made. But then the starts search was done of his residence. We had diaries. Where he wrote about some freebies crimes at the police. Never really tied anything to him. They found some Keith the longing to victims as well in the search warrant, so he was good. He was convicted on to they Lincoln Lincoln about thirty thirty homicides, and he was killed in nineteen ninety five. Another inmate stabbed today in prison down in Florida. So when you hear that would you hear something like that does that bring you some sense of relief for Justice, or how do you how do you process that? Yeah. I I've I have when it comes to death penalty. I've changed a little bit a little bit here. I was on a panel two weeks ago, New York with Amanda Knox. I helped them in the next get out of prison in Italy. And also if you heard of the case, the west of this three. Oh, yeah. Totally. Yeah. Case for. And so I helped they mean Damien Echols was on the patio and Joe Berlinger was on the panel with mixed. I helped him get out of prison with Peter Jackson director Lord of the rings. Brought me and at that time everything was secret along with this group of forensic. You know, you know, experts. So you see cases like that. And now that I'm out of euro, I I couldn't do these kind of cases in the bureau, but now out of your I've been helping cases where I see false. Confessions have been that given by innocent people wrongful wrongful convictions like in the west Memphis, three like Amanda Knox with where they bring in a tag team match the case man that Knox. They brought in ten police officers. Detectives who were interrogator attaching over forty hours to break down. And I always say an innocent person is easy to ensure gate than than the criminal himself or herself because the innocent person when they're curated by some say corrupt the investigator. They think that the person being targeted well. This will be over. Here tooth will come out. I get my attorney they'll know that. But meanwhile, you confess or you've you've signed a confession. And the problem too. Is that it should be required everywhere, including FBI FBI doesn't use. This is is the tape tape the interrogation tape, the interviews. And I mean from the beginning to the end not not turning the tape recorder on after you got the confession because you've or a scrupulous cop. Facts of the case. Now, you regurgitating back. So all the jurors will hear is. Oh, yeah. Just person. He knew everything about the case. So. Him. So. So I changed, but when I see these predatory types, and is there's all kinds of evidence that we have all not just I witnessed testimony or some jailhouse snitch or something like that that. Yeah. I I I worry that. And I get a lot of calls from people are saying because my attitude when I when people would say, oh, yeah. That prisons are full innocent people kinda sarcastically. But are we have a case in Virginia here north four four four navy then independently confessed to a crime they had nothing to do with. And they got a concession. But then his DNA to match, but then they got into give another navy man's name cough up a name. They did an interrogation the DNA. Did this what do four four? And they end the guys went to prison for years, and he finally got out too many years ago. Joseph in Boston has a follow up question about police officers. Don't know why Joseph you're talking with John Douglas on coast to coast AM. And I wanna say hi to my friends, and they treat computer guy. Yes. I'm. I'm a vine person we have a police officer a lot of them. And can you give your contact info out of the end? 'cause I don't I'm not going to be in case people need we have a lot of people in prison that are innocent. What does one do when one is going to be questioned because I know police officer. I don't know personally. I saw the video that killed a guy that was in a fire, and he went rammed and rave. He wasn't response. He blood all over this. And he was doing this in the witness said he did nothing, and there were other police officers Ozark taste the guy on the ground nineteen times has one handle it. And if we ever get arrested. What should we do if especially for innocent and who questions go ahead? I'll talk you don't talk you you. I don't care if it's your pulled over for traffic stop. I would tell my own children as you go. And and say, I want to have an attorney attorney, you know, represent. Right away that 'cause I'm not saying that is a small percentage and every look at the FBI as well. We have a we have a Senate. We'll have like David Hanson, Robert says name. New information, you know to Russia. I mean, if you you should not be taken to a room interrogated, and you should require requests, you wanna speak to your to your attorney students as soon as right away. Because you're innocent. This will come out, but but you know, you can manipulate behavior the nippy late someone even confessed to being browbeaten and a lot of innocent people won't request in an attorney. They don't because they think I'll explain it to them. And but the tactics of the us I mean, you can be vulnerable. I I mean, I've seen so many cases, and what people even like a man that stage with her just still people think she's guilty. There was no forensic evidence. Lincoln case, it was one guy. Rudy day is forensic prince thing prince the fecal matter in the toilet. It's him. It's not Amanda. It's not Rafeal slipped. It the boyfriend nothing. Nothing the west Memphis three. They they interrogate a kid with seventy two I q you could've told them. There was cheese. On the moon. Any would have agreed with you? And they broke them. You know, broke this kid down. He had nothing, you know, nothing to do. None of them anything to do with the crime. But they spent eighteen years in prison Damien spent ten on death row when they were finally freed. And fortunately, the I spoke to the that the district attorney says what do they want what they want? They want to be exonerated. And he says, well, I don't know. I don't know about that. What do you do? You. Don't know. I I don't know. I turned out why didn't know about exonerating because he was running for political office. Right. And he. Looking for, you know, this is so we're talking with John Douglas. You'll have a few more minutes, and then we'll get to open lines. But I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you at the very end of all up question from this. But first, let's get to sue in Atlanta on wildcard line on coast to coast AM for John Douglas, sue. Thanks for.

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"damien echols" Discussed on KTOK

KTOK

09:57 min | 2 years ago

"damien echols" Discussed on KTOK

"When it matters most Oklahomans, turn to FOX, News Radio and one thousand KT, okay? Just before the bottom of the hour. We were talking with John Douglas about serial killer police officers in that motif gets used all the time doesn't it about, you know, mostly in works of fiction about you. And I were not so different. You know, the killer tells the cop and the cop feels wonder one way or another about it. And but that that to -ality, I think the idea of the, you know, cops and robbers that they're much more connected than they have more common than they don't where are you with that? You were just talking about a case of a police officer who had committed serial crimes using the the cover of the bad. Yeah. We we we didn't have a whole lot of those cases. I had a case out of San Diego where it was a a police officer who would teach rape prevention ended up being a rapist, and we're able to Lincoln forensically through a badge the fibers from the basil badge. We're on the victims that we got into the interrogation, and we're able to get a concession out of him a big one that we did part of our thirty six serial killers. In the initial study was Gerald Shafer in Florida he bounced from department to department small departments, and and they would get rid of him. But they would give him a good recommendation just so they can get get rid of him. He ended up getting caught. He he picked up two girls hitchhiking in his police vehicle took him to a motel and later on it came back the next day to pick them up in his personal car on his personal car had a trailer hitch and his thing would be. Sexual hanging. So he took these girls out into no no area up to the one of the girls got away got away. And then the rest was made. But then the starts search was done of residents. We had diaries where he wrote about some previous crimes at the police never really tied anything to him. They found some Keith belonging to victims as well in search warrant. So he was good. He was convicted them onto they Lincoln Lincoln about thirty thirty homicides, and he was killed in nineteen ninety-five. Another inmate stabbed into death in prison down in Florida. So when you hear that would you hear something like that does that bring you some sense of relief for or Justice, or how do you how do you process that? Yeah. I I've I have. When it comes to death penalty. I've changed a little bit a little bit here. I was on a panel two weeks ago, New York with Amanda Knox. I helped them in the next get out of prison in Italy. And also heard of the case the west Memphis three. Oh, yeah. Totally. Yeah. I felt that case very close. And so I helped they me and Damien Echols was on the path. And Joe Berlinger was on the panel with mix. I helped him get out of prison with Peter Jackson director Lord of the rings. Brought me in at the time. Everything was secret along with this group of forensic, you know, experts. So you see cases like that. And now that I'm out of the bureau. I couldn't do these kind of cases in the bureau, but now out of your I've been helping on cases where I see false. Confessions have been than given by innocent people wrongful wrongful convictions like in the west Memphis three like Amanda Knox with where they bring in a tag team match the case, Amanda Knox. They brought in ten police officers. Detectives who are gonna interrogator attack team over forty hours to break down. And and I always say an innocent person is easy to ensure gate. Than than the criminal himself or herself because the innocent person when they're at Uruguay like this by some say, it's a corrupt investigator. They think that the person being targeted. Well, this will be over here. The truth will come out. I get my attorney they'll know that. And but meanwhile, you can fast or you've you've signed a confession and problem too. Is that it should be required everywhere, including FBI FBI doesn't use. This is is the tape tape the interrogation tape, the interviews. And I mean from the beginning to the end not turning the tape recorder on after you got the confession because you've made or a scrupulous cop me. Facts of the case. Now, you regurgitating back. So all the jurors will hear is. Oh, yeah. He knew everything about the case. So he him so. So I changed, but when I see these predatory types, and there's all kinds of evidence that we have all. Not just I witnessed testimony or some jailhouse snitch or something like that that I I I worry that. And I get a lot of calls from people are saying because my attitude when I when people say Minnesota. Oh, yeah. That prisons are full innocent people kinda sarcastically. But they are we have a case in Virginia here Norfolk four four four navy then independently confessed to a crime that nothing to do with. And they got a confession. But then his DNA didn't match. But then they got him to give another navy, man. Name cough up a name. They did an interrogation the DNA to match this. What do four they got four. And they end the guys went to prison for years, and he finally got out not too many years ago. Joseph in Boston has a follow up question about police officers. Don't know why. But Joseph you're talking with John Douglas on coast to coast AM. Can't. And I wanna say hi to my friends and treat computer. Yes. I'm here. I'm a blind person. We have a police officer a lot of them. And can you give your contact info out of the end? 'cause I don't I'm not too good. The engine case people need we have a lot of people in prison that are innocent. What does one do when one is going to be questioned because I know police officer. I don't know personally. I saw the video that killed a guy that was in a fire and he went rammed. And Ray he wasn't response. He blood all over this. And he was doing this in the witness said, he did nothing then there were other police officers Ozark tastes the guy on the ground nineteen times at one handle it. And if we ever get arrested, what should we do especially for innocent? And okay. Questions. Go ahead talk. You don't talk you you. I don't care if it's a pulled over for traffic stop. I would tell my own children as you go. And and say, I want to have an attorney won't have attorney represents right away. 'cause I'm not saying there is a small percentage and every look at the FBI as well. We have we have a Senate. We'll have like David Hanson, Robert Hanssen name gave information, you know, to Russia. I mean, if you should not be taken to a room interrogated, and you should require requests, you wanna speak to your your attorney as soon as as soon as. Innocent. This will come out. But, but you know, you can manipulate the eighty manipulate someone to confess do be browbeaten. And a lot of innocent people won't request in an attorney. They don't because they think I'll explain it to them. And but the tactics that use. I mean, you can be vulnerable. I mean, I've seen so many cases and people even like Amanda stage with her just still people think she's guilty. There was no forensic evidence. Lincoln case, it was one guy. Good day is six. Bloody prints thing. Prince the fecal matter in the toilet. It's him. It's not Amanda. It's not Ravi else. Let know the boyfriend nothing nothing the west Memphis three they interrogate a kid with seventy two. I q you told them there was cheese on the moon, and he would have agreed with you. And they broke them broke the this kid down. He had nothing, you know, nothing to do. None of them out do the crime. But they spent eighteen years in prison Damian spent ten on death row when they were finally freed. And fortunately, the I I spoke to the that the district attorney says what do they want? What are they want? They want to be exonerated. And he says, well, I don't know. I don't know about that. Yeah. What do you need? Well, I don't know. I turned out why you didn't know about exonerating because he was running for political office. Right. And he votes looking for, you know, this is so engine we're talking with John Douglas. You'll have a few more minutes. Then we'll get to open lines. But I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you at the very end of follow up question from this. But first, let's get to sue in Atlanta on wildcard line on coast to coast AM for John Douglas, sue. I am thanks for.

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"damien echols" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM

WCBM 680 AM

09:46 min | 2 years ago

"damien echols" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM

"Just before the bottom of the hour. We were talking with John Douglas about serial killer police officers in that motif gets used all the time doesn't it about, you know, mostly in works of fiction about us. We're not so different. You know, the killer tells the cop and the cop feels wonder one way or another about it. And but that that -ality I think the idea of the, you know, cops and robbers that they're much more connected than they have more common than they don't where are you with that? You were just talking about a case of a police officer who had committed serious crimes using the the cover of the badge. Yeah. We we. We didn't have a whole lot of those cases. I had a case out of San Diego where a a police officer who would teach rape prevention ended up being a a rapist, and we're able to Lincoln forensically through a badge the fibers. The basil. Badge on the victims that we got into the interrogation and were able to get a concession out of him. A big one that we did part of our thirty six serial killers. In the initial study was got him Gerald Shafer in Florida. He balanced from department to department small departments, and and would get rid of him. But they give him a good recommendation. Just so they can get get rid of him. He ended up getting caught. He he picked up two girls hitchhiking in this. Police vehicle took them to motel and then later on it came back the next day to pick them up in his personal car on his personal car had a trailer hitch and his thing would be sexual hanging. So he took these girls out into no area. Hi, them up to one of the girls got away got away. And then the rest was made. But then the starts search was done of residents. We had diaries where he wrote about some previous crimes at the police. Never really tied anything to him. They found some Keith the longing to victims as well in the search warrant, so he was good. He was. Onto they Lincoln linking about thirty thirty homicides. And he was killed in nineteen ninety-five. Another inmate stabbed to death in prison and Florida. So when you hear that when you hear something like that does that bring you some sense of relief for Justice, or how do you how do you process that? Yeah. I I've I have. When it comes to death valley. I've changed a little bit a little bit here. I was on a panel two weeks ago New York with Amanda, I helped them get out of prison in an Italy. And also heard of the case the west Memphis three. Oh, yeah. Totally. Yeah. I felt like very closely. And so I helped they need Damien Echols was on the patio. And Joe Berlinger was on the panel with helped him get out of prison with Peter Jackson director Lord of the rings brought me and at the time everything was secret along with this group of forensic. You know, you know, experts. So you see cases like that. And now that I'm out of the bureau. I I couldn't do these kind of cases in the bureau, but now out of your I've been helping on cases where I see false. Confessions have been given by innocent people wrongful wrongful convictions like in the west Memphis three like Amanda Knox with where they bring. In a tag team education. The man that I know they brought in ten police officers. Detectives who were good interrogator attack team over forty hours to break down. And I always say an innocent person is easy to ensure than than the criminal himself or herself because the innocent person when they're curated like this by some say, it's a corrupt the investigator. They think that the person being targeted. Well, this will be over here to will come out. I get my attorney they'll know that. But meanwhile, you can fast or you've you've signed a confession. And the problem too. Is that it should be required everywhere, including FBI FBI doesn't use. This is is the tape tape the interrogation tape, the interviews. And I mean from the beginning to the end not not turning the tape recorder on after you got the. Specia- because even or a scrupulous cop. Facts of the case. Now, you regurgitating back. So all the jurors will hear is. Oh, yeah. Just personally he knew everything about the case. So he had to be him. So I changed. But when I see these predatory types, and there's all kinds of evidence that we have all. Not just I witnessed the money or some jailhouse snitch or something like that that. Yeah. I I I worry that. And I get a lot of calls from people are saying because my attitude when I when people say Minnesota. Oh, yeah. Prisons are fully innocent is, you know, people kinda sarcastically. But they are we have a case in Virginia here north four four four navy then independently confessed to a crime they had nothing to do with. And they got a confession. But then his DNA to match. But then they got him to give another navy, man. Name cough up a name. They did an interrogation the DNA. Did this? What four they got four. And they and the guys went to prison for years, and he finally got out not too many years ago. Joseph in Boston has a follow up question about police officers. Don't know why. But Joseph you're talking with John Douglas on coast to coast AM. And I wanna say hi to my friends and shade tree, computer. Yes. I'm. A blind person. We have a police officer a lot of them. And can you give your contact info out of the end? 'cause I don't I'm not too good engine case people need we have a lot of people in prison that are innocent. What does one do when one it's going to be questioned because I know police officer. I don't know personally. I saw the video that killed a guy that was in a fire. He went rammed. And Ray he wasn't response. He blood all over this. And he was doing this. In the witnesses said he did nothing, and there were other police officers Ozark taste the guy on the ground nineteen times one handle it. And if we ever get arrested. What should we do if especially for innocent and questions? Go ahead talk. You don't talk you you. I don't care if it's a pulled over for traffic stop. I would tell my own children as you go. And and say, I have an attorney we'll have attorney, you know, represent. Right away. 'cause I'm not saying there is a small percentage and every look at the FBI as well. We have we have percents. We'll have like David hazard Robert hand says name. New information. You have you know to Russia? I mean, if you should not be taken to a room interrogated, you should require request. You wanna speak to your your attorney as soon as as soon as right away. Because you're innocent. This will come out. But, but you know, you can manipulate the you manipulate someone either confessed to being browbeaten d- and a lot of innocent people won't request an attorney. They don't because they think well, I'll explain it to them. And but the tactics that use I mean, you can be vulnerable. I mean, I've seen so many cases and where people even like a man that stage with her just so people think she's guilty. There was no forensic evidence. Lincoln case there was one guy. Really good day is forensic bloody prints thing prince the fecal matter in the toilet. It's him. It's not Amanda. It's not Ravi else. Let you know the boyfriend nothing nothing the west Memphis three they they ensure get a kid with seventy two I q you told them. There was cheese. On the moon. Any would have agreed with you? And they broke them broke this kid down. He had nothing. You know, nothing to do. None. None of them anything to do with the crime. But they spent eighteen years in prison Damian spent ten on death row when they were finally freed, unfortunately, the I spoke to the that the district attorney they says what do they want? What are they they wanna be exonerated? And he says, well, I don't know. I don't know about that. What do you need? Well, I don't know. I turned out why didn't know about exonerating because he was running for political office. Right. And. Looking for you know, this is so engine we're talking with John Douglas. You'll have a few more minutes, and then we'll get to open lines. But I'm going to. I'm going to ask you at the very end of follow up question from this. But first, let's get to do in Atlanta on a wildcard line coast to coast AM for John Douglas, sue. Thanks for the completely.

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"damien echols" Discussed on WHAS 840 AM

WHAS 840 AM

05:05 min | 2 years ago

"damien echols" Discussed on WHAS 840 AM

"A a police officer who would teach rape prevention ended up being a rapist, and we're able to Lincoln forensically through a badge the fibers from the basical badge. We're on the victims that we got into the interrogation and able to get a confession out of him. A big one that we did part of our thirty six uh serial killers. In the initial study was got him Gerald Shafer in Florida. He balanced from department to department small departments, and and they would get rid of him. But they give him a good recommendation. Just so they get get rid of him. He ended up getting caught. He he picked up two girls hitchhiking in his police vehicle took him through a motel later on it came back the next day to pick them up in his personal car on his personal car. He had a trailer hitch and his thing would be sex. Hanging. So he took these girls out into no no area high up to the one of the girls got away got away. And then the rest was made. Then the starts. Search was done of his residence. We had diaries where he wrote about some previous crimes at the police never really tied anything to him. They found some Keith belonging to victims as well in the search warrant, so he was good. He was convicted them onto they Lincoln like about thirty thirty homicides, and he was killed in nineteen ninety-five at other inmate stabbed today in prison down in Florida. So when you hear that would you hear something like that does that bring you some sense of relief or or Justice, or how do you how do you process that? Yeah. I I've I have. When it comes to death valley. I've changed a little bit a little bit here. I was on a panel two weeks ago, New York with Amanda Knox. I helped him in the next get out of prison in Italy. And also heard of the case the west Memphis three. Oh, yeah. Totally. Yeah. I case very close series. And so I helped Damien Echols was on the path. And Joe Berlinger was on the panel with mix. I helped him get out of prison with Peter Jackson director Lord of the rings. Brought me in at the time. Everything was secret along with this group of forensic. You know, you know, experts. So you see cases like that. And now that I'm out of the bureau. I I couldn't do these kind of cases in the bureau, but now out of your I've been helping on cases where I I see false. Confessions have been been given by innocent people wrongful wrongful convictions like in the west Memphis three like Amanda Knox with where they bring. In a tag team match the case, Amanda Knox. They brought in ten police officers. Detectives who interrogator attack team over forty hours to break down and always say an innocent person is easy to ensure gate, then then the criminal himself or herself because the innocent person when they're curated by some say corrupt the investigator. They think that the person being targeted this will be over here. The truth will come out. I get my attorney they'll know that. And but meanwhile, you confess or you've you've signed a confession and problem too. Is that it should be required everywhere, including FBI FBI doesn't use. This is is the Cape tape the interrogation tape, the interviews. And I mean from the beginning to the end not not turning the tape recorder on after you got to. Because you've made or a scrupulous cop me. Facts of the case. Now, you regurgitating back. So all the jurors here is oh, yeah. He knew everything about the case. So he him so. So I changed. But when I see these predatory types and his his all kinds of evidence that we have all. Yeah. Not just I witnessed testimony or some jailhouse snitch or something like that that. Yeah. I I I worry that. And I get a lot of calls from people are saying in because my attitude when I when people say Minnesota. Oh, yeah. Prisons are fully innocent. You know, people kinda sarcastically. But they are we have a case in Virginia here Norfolk four four four navy then independently confessed to a crime they had nothing to do with. And they got a concession. But then his DNA to match, but then they got him to give another navy man's name cough up a name. They did an interrogation the DNA. Did this? What.

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"damien echols" Discussed on News Radio 690 KTSM

News Radio 690 KTSM

03:42 min | 2 years ago

"damien echols" Discussed on News Radio 690 KTSM

"I felt that case very close series. And so I helped they me and Damien Echols was on the path. And Joe Berlinger was on the panel with mixed. I helped him get out of prison with Peter Jackson director Lord of the rings brought me and at the time everything was secret along with this group of forensic. You know, you know, experts. So you see cases like that. And now that I'm out of the bureau. I I couldn't do these kind of cases in the bureau, but now out of euro, I've been helping on cases where I see false. Confessions have been that given by innocent people wrongful wrongful convictions like in the west Memphis, three like in Amanda Knox with where they bring in a tag team match the case a man that I know they brought in ten police officers. Detectives who are gonna interrogate or attack team over forty hours to break down. And I always say an innocent person is easy to ensure gate than than the Kremlin himself or herself. Because the innocent person when they're derogated. Like this by some say, it's corrupt the investigator. They think that the person being targeted at this will be over here that come out. I get my attorney they'll know that. And but meanwhile, you can fast or you've you've signed a confession and problem too. Is that it should be required everywhere, including FBI FBI doesn't use. This is is the tape tape the interrogation tape, the interviews. And I mean from the beginning to the end not not turning the tape recorder on after you got the because even or a scrupulous cop. Facts of the case. Now, you regurgitating back. So all the jurors will hear is. Oh, yeah. It's just personally he knew everything about the case. So. Him. So. So I changed, but when I see these predatory types, and there's there's all kinds of evidence that we have all not just I witnessed on some jailhouse snitch or something like that that. Yeah. I I I worry, and I get a lot of calls from people are saying because my attitude when I when people say Minnesota. Oh, yeah. That prisons are full innocent. It is, you know, people kinda sarcastically. But they are we have a case in Virginia here Norfolk four four four navy then independently confess to a crime they had nothing to do with and they got a concession. But then his DNA to match, but then they got him to give another navy man's name cough up a name. They did an interrogation the DNA to match this four four. And they and the guys went to prison for years, and they finally got out not that too many years ago. Joseph in Boston has a follow up question about police officers. Don't know why. But Joseph you're talking with John Douglas on coast to coast AM. And I wanna say hi to my friends, and they treat computer. Yes. I'm here. I'm a vine person we have a police officer a lot of them. And can you give your contact info out of the end? 'cause I don't I'm not too good. The case people need we have a lot of people in prison that are innocent. What does one do when one is going to be questioned because I know police officer. I don't know personally. I saw the video that killed a guy that was in a fire, and he rammed and Ray he wasn't response..

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"damien echols" Discussed on Think Again

Think Again

03:10 min | 3 years ago

"damien echols" Discussed on Think Again

"It looks like an alphabet that your conscious mind doesn't read so bypass all of the thought processes goes deep into your unconscious psyche and can then work in whatever way it works down there. You know, I don't know how some of this stuff works. I just know it does work if you break it down into just a symbol. And then put the energy put the key into this symbol, you can manifest something that you may not necessarily be able to picture, you know, like happiness or protection or love. I even have one of my favorite ones is probably the one on the side of my neck, and what is townsman that represents New York City because to me this is home the second I landed here the second I stepped off the plane. I knew this was the place I wanted to live, and this was a place. I wanted to die. I want to be buried. Here as happened is Damien Echols because I was a kid when he also is a kid was falls e in prison for murder because he'll have loved heavy metal music. So tha yeah, that's backstory. I don't even know. So yeah, it was three. Maybe I think it was three. I think it was three three teenagers and a Cameron with all the details. I remember I was a kid as weather, and I was into ever mantle. And I was also to allows in this thing to say tanning. I can see having been into heavy metal of him. There was a documentary that the church she's a send to compasses all over the country. It's it's I think it's online you can find on YouTube highway to hell and it had things like backward, masking and all and everybody in the room wasn't his documentary. New to everybody was crying and caught note, the Jesus I was taking notes. How's that? Oh my God. I also ACDC. So I left that documents. There. The hill dies wasp this layer faster, pussycat I bought this. An that lists. God bless Jesus. He I became a total medal fan on because of a documentary that was telling me not to go off the metal, but somebody was really into metal and having to deal with all remember one time. I might a job I'm an art director. And this woman comes to me and monitor I just want you to accept you for who you are. I'm like did I come across gay again? Which would be the true, then she said, I just wanted. You know, I don't care about your essay thinnest as just like dens e doesn't mean. How did she? She was it your t shirts. How did she know all the dancing records? Okay. Ran skulls on on on on your desk at the birds. Yeah. Yeah. I come from a very religious country. So that struck me start me, really hard. What was going on with Damon? And and those kids I camera what they were caught or call it something three and people rally really rallied behind it. And even all around lee-ing didn't change really bigoted Maine's against, you know, misfit teenagers liking rock and roll. And he seems like a really thoughtful interesting. I've seen go throughout the year old new whale disobeys about gullible wasn't atrocity..

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"damien echols" Discussed on Think Again

Think Again

03:55 min | 3 years ago

"damien echols" Discussed on Think Again

"I don't want. I don't want to privatize any kind of. Of social safety net. And it shouldn't be and I'm sure they're conservatives who are thinking of that too. But I I don't know if it's an either or I don't think there's a whole bunch of you know, I don't think there's a huge American underclass just waiting for handouts. So they can no longer do anything with their lives. Of course. You know? I wasn't. I certainly not suggesting that no that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that for stuff like healthcare snowflake, you know, just kind of basic quality of life snuff that that Sean to resist in a thriving country. Right that that should be. We should be doing that mentally not just at the whim of Bill that also. But I also would appreciate if the billions billionaire spent more one either because all the money in the world couldn't stop Steve Jobs, Dan of cancer. But some Parigi intensive cancer research probably could've. Oh, yeah. So I totally agree. It doesn't have to be an either or and I don't want Bill Gates to close his foundation. God. No. I think. That's great. I just don't want that to be the only I don't wanna world predicated on the hopeful generosity of billionaires. Right because it can take generosity. And then we're we right. That's why I saw idea of little erasing you go from a little better the radical until there is none is ludicrous home anymore. Former presidents should have diseases that the research funding for. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Until it stops. All right. Let's take a look at the second quit. All right. This is Damien echoes the author of high magic. And it's why I wear my life on my body basically about tattoos. Tattoos for me. One of the reason I started to get them is because when I was in prison when you go to prison, they they completely strip you of an identity. You don't even have a name anymore. You're giving a number. My number was S K nine three one. That means I was the nine hundred and thirty first person sentenced to death in Arkansas to the state of Arkansas, I was not Damien Echols. I was inmate s k nine three one. They take your clothes. They take your name. There were even times when I was shackled to a chair and had my head shaved against my will just to make you look like every other prison prisoner in the prison. You know, there's they don't want any form of identity any form of humanity. So I learned that pretty much everything can be stripped away from you, accept your skin. That was why started tattooing things that were meaningful to me bonds. I shared with other people, you know, f- friends anyone from Johnny Depp. And peter. Jackson. We got tattooed together to just people that were friends of mine in the tattoo shop, you know. It's like if you have a photograph you can lose that photograph it can be torn up. It can be you know, disintegrate through time. But whenever you carry something on your body. It's almost like you have a suit of armor made out of the things that are meaningful to you. So a lot of the things I have on me were not only things that I shared with friends like Representative of bonds that I had with other people. But I started to also use talisman Cigielski. What tells me are we were talking about thought forms while ago? Well, some things are really hard to visualize. If you want to put energy in manifesting, something say, for example, happiness, so you don't know what will make you happy. You just know that you're not happy at this particular time in your life. You're not happy with your job. But you don't know one job would make you happy. You're not happy in your relationship. And you don't know exactly what sort of relationship you want to be in. That would bring happiness you can use a talisman or a single too. To take a concept like happiness and break it down into a symbolic form that will bypass the conscious mind and can be fired directly into the subconscious. Because it just looks like a squiggly line for the most part..

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"damien echols" Discussed on Duncan Trussell Family Hour

Duncan Trussell Family Hour

04:45 min | 3 years ago

"damien echols" Discussed on Duncan Trussell Family Hour

"Greetings, france. It is I d trussell. And this is an anomalous podcast intro. It's a Saturday morning, and it's raining outside. And the reason it's a Saturday morning is because yesterday was Friday at least thanks keep happening. But also the reason I'm recording this on a Saturday morning because I spent all day yesterday after returning home from this glorious work that I'm involved in that I can't talk about yet. And I tried to record some kind of fancy podcast intro. Lots of bells and whistles try to be funny. That's always going to be a disaster when you're trying to be funny. Just forget it. And also was like putting a lot of icing in there. You know, that is clearly a sign of something's off like, you know, what I mean, you're making fear lack cake with too much icing usually sign that something is off. So simplicity is always the answer. To those situations. And in this case, why am I trying to do some kind of fancy flowery podcast intro when I have one of the great meditation teachers alive today is in so many great books on this podcast doesn't make any sense weird. So I figure you know, what I'm just going to read this wonderful text. I got today from Damien Echols who was on the podcast. Couple months ago. I think and what's kind of funny about this text is that it actually is the podcast intro because it's a wonderful text about meditation. So I'm just going to read this text. I asked for his permission. He said I could this is from his journal. Exactly how does magic work to answer. This. We turn to quantum physics. This particular field of science has discovered that we exist within a unified divine matrix. And the first law of how this matrix works is known as quantum entanglement? Quantum entanglement stipulates that all things which have been physically linked remained linked on an energetic level, even if they become separated by vast distances experiments shown that by taking two photons which have been linked then separating them, we can still interact with one and having affect on the other even if it's no our nearest. So how does explain magic? Because at one point the matter of which we are made was touching all other matter. In fact, it said that if you removed all the empty space or dark energy of the universe. You could compress all their remaining matter in the entire universe into an area. This is a green pea, which is exactly the state. We were in before the big bang. The matter of which we are made is entangled on a quantum level with a matter of everything else and existence the implications of this or that by causing it change in ourselves. We also cause a change in the external universe. In fact, we now know this is true because of experiments which have shown that the universe is holographic meaning that within each tiny piece of the universe. The reflection of the universe in its entirety can be found. What does this look like in a practical real world scenario for the answer to that? We can look at a study conducted by the world peace group, what they found was that by gathering enough trained meditators together in one place, they create what they called these super radiance affect part of the super radiance affect was that war related deaths in the surrounding area of Lebanon drop by as much as seventy six percent via. Int- crime rates and even the number of house fires dropped dramatically. The experiment was conducted seven more times over the next two years while other possible influences, such as holiday, the weather, etc. Were all statistically controlled for one thing they found was that the greater the number of train meditation practitioners taking part the greater the super radiance effect was and as the number of practitioners taking part fell the number of war deaths rose the group again attempting to calculate just how many people in an area would need to practice. Some kind of technique that fills the practitioner with inner peace be at transcendental meditation ceremonial magic excetera they found that the answer was the square root of one percent of the population. This number was arrived. At by another experiment conducted by the group in eleven village called Baskinta invest keen to as one percent of the population began practicing meditation fighting stop entirely now..

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