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"dame sandra mason" Discussed on Monocle 24: The Foreign Desk
"The next royal tour of the Caribbean may have one less stop. As of this week, Barbados is no longer a monarchy, Queen Elizabeth II, no longer its head of state. Oh dear. This was very much not the tortures and tumbrils mode of founding a republic, among the distinguished guests at the ceremony in Bridgetown to commemorate the moment, was Elizabeth's son, Prince Charles, though no longer heir to anything where Barbados is concerned, Charles spoke warmly and encouragingly and conveyed the best wishes of the obsolete monarch. Tonight you write the next chapter of your nation's story. Adding to the treasury of past achievement, collective enterprise and personal courage, which already fill its pages. Though even he seems to have realized that he was basically the warmup act for Rihanna, who, at the same wingding, was formally declared a national hero. May you continue to shine like a diamond and bring honor to your nation by your words by your actions and to do credit wherever you shall go. God bless you, my dear. In some, indeed, many respect Barbados becoming a republic is not that big a deal. It will make in practice very little difference to how anything in Barbados is done whether constitutionally or cosmetically. Barbados had been independent since 1966, already had its own flag and anthem and hadn't put the queen on its coins or banknotes for some while. It hasn't put Rihanna on them yet, but this seems more of a when than an if. Barbados will remain a member of the Commonwealth and its first president dame Sandra mason is its last governor general. Give or take the necessity of tweaking the title on her office stationary, this is about as low key a revolution as has ever been conducted. It has been driven by a politician who has political capital to spare. In Barbados most recent general election prime minister Mia Motley led the Labor Party not merely to a majority but a clean sweep. They won every seat in the House of assembly. That dominance has since been reduced to the tune of one enterprising MP, Joseph athlete, who seized his chance and defected to become leader of the opposition to become indeed the entire parliamentary opposition by default. One would prefer to believe that this was not entirely due to the hefty bump in an MP salary that goes with the gig. Athlete for what it turned out to be worth was all aboard for the republic merely unsure about the timing. Motley was very much of the if not now when school. She argued reasonably that after 55 years of independence, Barbados should have acquired sufficient balance to remove such trainer wheels as the monarchy represented. As all who attended this week's B no in Bridgetown will appreciate some cheerfully some nervously, Barbados has provided both the Caribbean and the house of Windsor with a challenge. With Barbados gone and not counting the United Kingdom, their remain 14 Commonwealth realms, countries that is whose head of state is the occupant of the British throne. 8 of those countries are Caribbean neighbors of Barbados and they'll now be a few moments of appropriate music while you try to name all of them. The Bahamas Belize Grenada Jamaica Saint Lucia Saint Kitts and Nevis, which is one country, not two, Antigua and Barbuda also so good they named it twice, and Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, which is one country, not a rockabilly group. There may well be people in all of these places increasingly reconsidering the idea that accident of birth in a foreign castle is the smartest way of choosing a constitutional figurehead. It may even be the case that the heftier likes of Canada, Australia and New Zealand are at least vaguely wondering why they can't do this if Barbados can. Traffic away from the British Crown may be slow. Mauritius was the previous decampment back in 1992 and other nations may be constitutionally obliged to put themselves through a referendum, which Barbados did not. But there is no doubt that the traffic is one way. It is impossible to imagine a current sovereign country applying to become a British realm, if that's even a thing you can do, and at the risk of tempting fate and with all due acknowledgment that post Brexit Britain remains in a funny sort of mood, the UK's appetite for imperial conquest appears to have ebbed. The Commonwealth, however, clearly retains an appeal. In the last quarter century or so, Mozambique and Rwanda have joined despite a lack of previous constitutional relationship to the UK and the Maldives and The Gambia have rejoined after having previously flouted. If accelerating detachment from The Crown results in the solidifying of the Commonwealth as a more equitable association of democracies, more or less, that might not be a bad result all round. The British monarchy will have to get used to it anyway. One prominent Caribbean nation has announced that it will be imminently reviewing its own constitution. Jamaica, no, they're doing it of their own accord. For monocle 24, I'm Andrew Muller..
"dame sandra mason" Discussed on WABE 90.1 FM
"From NPR news this is all things considered I'm Ari Shapiro And I'm Mary Louise Kelly 5 years after a peace agreement in Colombia the United States has taken the rebel group farc off a terrorism blacklist The move is meant to give the U.S. more flexibility in supporting the peace process critics argue it could embolden narco terrorists and peers Michele Kellerman reports The revolutionary armed forces of Colombia or farc as it's known was formally dissolved after the 2016 peace agreement So assistant Secretary of State for the western hemisphere Brian Nichols says the U.S. is taking it off the list of foreign terrorist organizations The delisting recognizes the reality on the ground that the original farc if you will which targeted me when I served in Colombia So I have no love for them but they have participated in the peace process since 2016 And while farc is getting off that list Nichols told senators at a hearing on Capitol Hill two rebel groups that emerge from the farc have been added to the U.S. blacklist The farc EP and the Segunda Marc Italia have carried out continued terrorist activities attacked individuals carried out bombings participated in drug trafficking and we want to focus on those who are currently carrying out those illicit activities The idea is that the U.S. can now offer direct support to those groups that have demobilized and punish those who have it But senator Marco Rubio of Florida Republican argues that this is not what Columbia wanted They didn't want to delisting what they wanted was to the extent that you're going to provide assistance to these people who have abandoned the gorilla fight laid down their weapons become politically engaged We want you to run that assistance through the democratically elected government of Colombia not unilaterally Columbia's embassy in Washington wouldn't comment on that but said it saw the decision to add two grooves to the terrorism list as a positive step The State Department says that the U.S. will still be able to bring narco trafficking charges against former farc leaders The White House sent a top official to Miami this week to explain all of this and smooth over concerns among Colombian Americans Michelle Kellerman and PR news the State Department Let's head now to the world's newest republic The Caribbean island of Barbados made history today In a lavish ceremony full of dignitaries politicians and Rihanna Barbados removed the Queen of England as its head of state Here is the nation's first president dame Sandra mason at that ceremony We the people must give republic Barbados spirit and its substance we must shape its future we are each others and our nations keepers we the people of barbecue Kareem Smith is a reporter for the online outlet Barbados today and he joins us from Bridgetown welcome Thank you for having me What did it feel like to be at that ceremony Well it was really a rush of excitement You went through so many different emotions from very early on in the ceremony which was filled with cultural celebrations Everything that was barbadian not touched on our African heritage are linked with Britain our minority populations that include persons from the Asian continent So it was just a swell of jubilation and as the ceremony got a bit later in the evening It took on a much more solemn character than we saw the arrival of Prince Charles spending the last moments as royalty over Barbados really As well as the new president and the prime minister Miami who's really the mastermind behind this for transition to a republic And you really started to get a feeling as though Barbados was truly moving on Barbados gained independence from Great Britain in 1966 so why did it take so long for the country to take this step There are many a const as the way that may have been made a full brick countries like the United States of America and some of the other Latin American countries who are associated with other European powers But on one hand it is said that because of the relationship that Barbara said with Britain those types of reform moving towards the full republic may have been deemed a step too far in terms of the consciousness of Barbarians and their understanding of the independence project But on the other hand at that point in time Britain was still very much trying to cling on to its empire so to speak And so I think the process for barbadians perhaps needed to be a bit more extended to ensure that persons fully understand and could grasp on appreciate the need to fully break away I'd love for you to tell us a little bit more about the first president dame Sandra mason because she's a history making figure as well First of all I think what's really exciting about Sandra mason is the fact that apart from being a born barbadian who looks like the average barbadian she has also been able to identify with the barbarian struggle she came up within a work in class family in rural Barbados She went through the public primary and secondary education systems And she benefited from the free education that was on offer The university of the West Indies she was the first woman to be called to the barbarous bar as a practicing attorney She served as the first magistrate to become a diplomat and really becoming the first president of Barbie It's really the combination of everything that she stands and really she is a growing symbol of the barbadian dream that despite not being born into some kind of hereditary sovereignty like the queen or inheriting a mass amount of wealth that you can still aspire to serve within the highest offices on Barbados So I'm curious when you walk around the capitol bridge town today Does it feel different like are there flags and banners out or people in the streets What's the vibe Yeah well I really don't think that is as festive as perhaps we would have wanted it to be because we are still currently in one of the most infectious one of the deadliest waves of COVID-19 that has been a source of economic hardship And a feeling of depression throughout the country And I think that these republics celebrations really have done quite a bit to renew a sense of hope within the average barbarian Prior to the transition I must admit that there were many persons who were still wondering what does this really mean for me you know But I think having gone through the ceremonial aspect of it again being able to see a daughter of the sun and Robin Rihanna Fenty also from a working class background rice to become one of the national heroes of Barbados It really gives an air of hopefulness about what's ahead I'm thinking you've got this trio of women the prime minister the president and Rihanna It pretty much says it all Yeah I remarked quite a part of me that we know how fear the most powerful women in the world And I think all three of those women encapsulate something very very special about Barbados on a boat We progressive direction in which we want to go Kareem Smith is a journalist with Barbados today.
"dame sandra mason" Discussed on Monocle 24: The Briefing
"Sure. If you're a Simpsons character, who would you be? I'm going to say most Isla. I love most is like. I would have to say it wouldn't be Barney gumble. That's for sure. I mean, I think I would be groundskeeper Willie. Agreed. Glad we talked about this. And you Tom? It's got to be Homer. I can see that. I can see Tom. Thank you so much, that is Monica's Tom Edwards. Now the world is today. One republic richer. As Barbados celebrates its first day of full sovereignty. Yesterday, dame Sandra mason was confirmed as the island's first president. Prince Charles attended the ceremony to mark the country's historic break with British imperial rule. Take a listen. From the darkest days of our past and the appalling atrocity of slavery, which forever stains our history, the people of this island forge their path with extraordinary fortitude Emancipation, self government and independence where your waypoints, freedom, justice and self determination have been your guides. In his speech, the Prince of Wales also reaffirmed the close partnership between Barbados and the United Kingdom. Earlier, Monaco Fernando Augusto Pacheco spoke to Victor Fernandez, chairman of capital media in Barbados and the longest serving elected president of the Caribbean broadcasting union. He started by asking Victor whether this decision had been politically divisive in Barbados. I don't think it's terribly divisive, really. I mean, politically, you will always get people on the opposing side. That is your job to oppose I suppose. But look, this has been the subject of two national consultations. There was the Cox commission of 19 79. And then there was the sir Henry Ford's commission of 19 99, which was the subject of widespread national consultations on the whole question of Barbados, new constitution, Barbados becoming a republic and that sort of stuff. And so on. So I don't really think there's been some talks some chatter from some sources that perhaps you should have put it to a referendum. But I mean, if this has been the subject of so many national consultations over such a long period, there's been no real protests or anything like that. More of the discussion is centered around the charger of Barbados and the references to God being now the creator, but the prime minister has been a pain to point out that this is not illegally binding document. This is not the constitution, and that the preamble to the constitution, which references God has not changed and will not be changed. So overall, I would say that there has been pretty widespread acceptance. We did some vox pop interviews over the last couple of days. And everybody was very much supportive. But there's not this euphoric kind of feeling in the country. It's very kind of calm. I guess as the activities continue the celebratory activities and we've had quite a few over the last couple of days, there is some excitement building. And as you've said, Victor, it's all been done fairly peacefully. I mean, Prince Charles was attending the ceremony as well. So I think Barbados, I mean, we remain quite a close ally to the United Kingdom in that sense, right? Well, absolutely. And, you know, it was really kind of folly on the part of a British member of parliament to actually sit that Barbados was quote unquote selling out to China, whatever that meant. And then you had a lead writer in The Sunday Times, I believe, erroneously stating that Barbados was leaving the Commonwealth. But I mean, this does not leave in the common laws. It very much remains a part of the Commonwealth much like other Caribbean countries that are republics, much like Trinidad and Tobago and Dominica. And they're likely to be others that will follow to as well. But will remain part of the Commonwealth of countries and Barbados association relationship with the United Kingdom remains firmly strong. We welcome more British visitors to Barbados on an annual basis. Right now our hotels are overpopulated with British visitors. So that is not going to change in any way shape or fashion. And Victor, what can you tell us about the new head of states Barbados first president dame Sandra mason? Incredible woman incredible career. But what can you tell us about her and what would be her relationship with the prime minister as well? Well, the role of the president like the governor general is largely ceremonial. The head of state is the titular head of state. The prime minister remains as the political arm of the country. But look, let's talk about David Sandra mason for a moment. She's highly respected, comes from a rural family, a rather large family in the parish of saint Philip. The people from saint Philip, I think there are more nationalistic than most people in Barbados. They refer to themselves as philippians and to the republic of saint Philip. In fact, they've been using that term for a very long time. She's an attorney by training. She was a magistrate. She's highly respected in her field. She was acclaimed by all sites when invited to become the governor general of barbadoes. And it was with you unanimous acclamation that she was also invited to be the first president of the republic. I was going to ask, especially in the Caribbean, I would say, do you think other countries will follow the lead of Barbados on the decisions become a republic? Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, it's pretty much inevitable. You know, it's part of a process of delinking from the colonial past. There is no disrespect to the monarch or to her successes. In fact, as we speak this morning, Prince Charles is being accorded the highest national honor along with the governor general, former governor general, now president will be the recipient of the freedom of Barbados award, which is the highest award possible under the new Republican form of governance. That in itself should send a message. Now, for me, you may have deduced from my comments that I am very much in favor of Barbados becoming a republic. But it didn't make a lot of sense to me, for example. Let's take Barbados sends an ambassador to Washington. That ambassador could not take up his or her responsibilities. Unless they first had a letter signed by the queen saying, I approve this appointment of my ambassador to Washington. It doesn't make a lot of sense, does it? So I don't think in the normal scheme of things is going to be a lot of change in terms of our daily lives, but it does give you that sense of being now a completely independent of your former colonial master. That is Victor Fernandez, chairman of capital media in Barbados, speaking to Monaco senior correspondent Fernando Augusta Pacheco. You are listening to the briefing.
"dame sandra mason" Discussed on Woman's Hour
"I should say the amazing sound you'll hear throughout this piece is the Caribbean ocean. I started by asking what the atmosphere is like in the world's newest republic. Well, at the ceremony that happened in the early hours of this morning, there was just this big mood of pride because people here realized that this is a moment of history. And you could see it with people waving their flags in the air when the barbadian national anthem was played out. I saw a man, you know, putting his hand over his chest because people really realized that this is a historic moment for the country that for some people, they've been waiting for it for over 40 years. How has the reception been like particularly from women? Because not everybody will agree with this move. That's right, it's really interesting that. I've spoken to two women, a daughter and her mother. So la Shawna, she's a poet. She's 28 years old and she said to me that the time is right for this to happen, she says that look Barbados needs to leave its colonial past behind and move forward, but her mom Sharon has said, what is this going to change in my life? We've just come we're in the middle of a pandemic, people here are struggling because so many jobs in this on this island are relying on tourism and she really questions why all of this is happening now. So women do have differing views on this. It's not a clear cut yes or no. People don't just have a clear cut yes or no answer. Is there an answer about why now? So I actually put that to the prime minister Mia Motley. I met her last week and she said to me, look, we are a country that has had 396 years of British monarchical system. The time is now she told me. And I pushed her a bit more on this because as I said to you, for about 40 years, people have been debating about this. And what prime minister Motley said is that change in small island states happens more sort of gradually instead of in a revolutionary way. What's also striking and you just mentioned there another female political leader is that Barbados is now in the unusual position where the first president is a woman. Yeah, that's right. Dame Sandra mason, she is the new president of this country. And just a few days ago, just yesterday, in fact, she was the governor general of Barbados. That was the queen's representative of Barbados. And she her CV is very impressive. She's a woman of so many first. She's a politician, a lawyer, a diplomat. And she became the governor general of Barbados.
"dame sandra mason" Discussed on Woman's Hour
"An update as journalists were often brilliant when a story breaks, but not quite as good at keeping with it and sharing what happens next. You may remember last week, we reported on the bizarre political situation in Sweden where only after 7 hours, the country's first female prime minister, magdalena Anderson, resigned. Well, now she is back in the job after another narrow vote by her colleagues, so Sweden does in fact have its first female prime minister for the second time. Keeping with the theme of female leaders as the world's newest republic Barbados wakes up to a new dawn and future having officially removed her majesty the Queen as its head of state last night, we hear how the country's first president, a 72 year old woman by the name of dame Sandra mason, is being received, a warning in that dispatch from Barbados, you will hear the beautiful sound of the ocean, and I imagine pine for warmer climes. I certainly did while having that conversation, which you'll hear shortly. Today Josephine Baker, the American born French performer famed in 1920s Paris is going to be the first black woman immortalized in the Pantheon mausoleum, and we're going to be finding out what her impact was and why she's being remembered, and I'll be talking to the barrister, Margaret Owen, and finding out why aged 89 she went on hunger strike last week for 6 days. But first, I'm joined by Emily ratajkowski an American model, actress entrepreneur and now writer, with nearly 30 million followers on Instagram. She rocketed to world fame age 21 when she took part in Robin Thicke's now infamous music video, blurred lines, where Emily and her fellow models ride almost topless sorry almost naked I should say, but completely topless in front of three fully clothed male musicians to a soundtrack telling a good girl, you know you want it. At the time, Emily argue that that provocative display of her body represented a form of feminist empowerment, or now she has a book out a series of essays called my body, which she's in the UK at the moment promoting. And in which she acknowledges how her allure has brought her fame and fortune, but also reflects on how limited any woman's power is when she survives and even succeeds in the world as a thing to be looked at. Before I say hello to Emily, what is your take on this? Of course you're going to hear our conversation and anything you wish to say and get in touch over, please do. You know, I always want to hear from you. But look still matter, particularly for women. How do you navigate that? What choices do you make? What choices don't? 8 four 8 four four is the number you need to text me here at woman's art text will be charged at your standard message rate on social media get in touch with me at BBC women's app or email me through our website. Emily ratajkowski good morning. Good morning. Thank you so much for having me, Emma. Well, thanks for coming on to women's athletes for talking to me and to our listeners..
"dame sandra mason" Discussed on Monocle 24: The Globalist
"Is the globalist on Monaco 24 9 Georgina Godwin and let's continue now with today's newspapers. Joining me in the studio is political journalist and author Terry ste astin. Good morning to Terry. Good morning. Labor has been reshuffling. That's the British opposition party. It started badly is it ending well? Yes, so obviously this is the kind of thing that I suppose the Labor Party were. We're trying to get done in a fairly organized way. Reshuffles whether you're in government or in opposition are always a bit chaotic and Keir Starmer's day started slightly chaotically yesterday because his deputy angel arena was busy giving a speech about the state of the government to which she believes to be sort of generally rather generally rather dodgy. And during the fact she was making this speech as it's reported widely here she's looking, looking a little bit disgruntled in a photo in the times. It started coming through that labor was reorganizing its front bench. But by the end of the day, I think what Keir Starmer ended up with here and the times says this in his analysis, equal to a ruthless midterm shakeup by a leader who knows that he needs to do more to move the public polls in his favor. But I think he's brought in some really quite interesting quite heavyweights people. People with quite a lot of experience, including people who have been in government in the past like event Cooper. For instance, who's now, again, the shadow Home Secretary, which she's already been one. She's also been a cabinet minister in the last labor government in charge of work and pensions. But he's also managed to bring in quite a few new people. So for instance, people like Bridget phillipson, who is the new shadow education secretary and west streeting whose new shadow health secretary, I mean, he's very interesting person. He's quite young, but he's also had his own health issues just recovered from cancer treatment. So he's got people there, he's got a real big, quite a big range of experience who are going to go up against their government counterparts and will bring quite a lot of heft I suppose to it. Although this is surely more examples of the international conflict that beset the Labor Party the fact that angel irena didn't know this reshuffle was going on that it was announced as she was giving a big speech. I mean, it all seems set to undermine her or was that just an accident? Well, I think people always hope that these kind of reshuffles will kind of no one will notice that they're happening until they've actually happened because they always take, you know, there's always a while sort of people saying, well, no, I don't want to go to the department of whatever paper clips whatever it might be. And so you hope that that won't come out. But the way of it, you know, in Westminster is that the gossip always gets out before the announcements are finally made. So I think they probably hoped that this news would not emerge until that speech was safely finished and out of the way. But yes, there are inevitably going to be people there was one shadow minister who left sort of still complaining that Jeremy Corbyn hadn't been allowed back into the Labor Party. But I think, you know, this is a real sign that Keir Starmer is kind of putting the Corbyn years behind him and moving labor more back to the center ground and putting his own his own stamp on it. And yes, you know, inevitably, there will be people who are not happy with that. But, you know, I think he's in a stronger position now when you think of with the last reshuffle he wasn't actually able to move angelle arena. He wanted to move, and she ended up with more job titles than she started with at the beginning of the day. Yeah. Let's move to Sweden now, where we have Sweden's first prime minister who's in fact now also the second prime minister. Yeah, well, we know we're talking about here political careers that kind of go up and down. You look at people who have kind of come in and out of power. Magdalene Anderson has managed to do this twice in a week, which is always got to be something when he hasn't become headline in the FDA magdalena Anderson has become Sweden's prime minister for the second time in a week becomes Sweden's first female p.m. once more. So she was appointed last week lasted a day because she lost a parliamentary vote on the budget, which she had written herself had written as the finance minister. Her coalition government collapsed, and she resigned all within the course of 7 hours. But this week she is back. She was going to try and run a coalition. She's now going to try and lead a minority one party government. I just particularly pick this out because I particularly like the line from her press conference. It said to me rather Swedish and a bit down beach, and she told a press conference, somebody must be prime minister in this country and there does not seem to be an alternative. And she said, she conceded the events of the past week were seen by many as odd, but it felt very good to be elected and her main policies are on areas such as welfare, climate change and the fight against gang crime and segregation. But she hasn't got all the, you know, hopefully she will last more than a day. This time she has only going to run sweet. She's set to run Sweden for the next ten months. It says here before a fiercely contested set of elections. So we'll see how long her career lost in that second book. Let's go now to the world's newest republic. Barbados. Yes, Barbados seems according to The Guardian has had a fantastic celebration overnight. So it says here at the stroke of midnight Barbados becomes the world's newest republic, and it says after 396 years the sun has set on the British monarchy's reign over the Caribbean island of Barbados with a sort of traditional handover ceremony at midnight on Monday. There was attended by Prince Charles, who was representing the queen, the royal standard was lowered and the new president dame Sandra mason was sworn in and took the oath of allegiance and this is great celebrations, barbadian singer Rihanna also attended the ceremony and was declared a national hero and the new president said republic Barbados has set sail on her maiden voyage and saying our country must dream big dreams and.
"dame sandra mason" Discussed on WABE 90.1 FM
"But it is really way too early in the season to say anything definitive We hope for a really wet December January and February to pull us out of the drought Dan brekkie with member station kqed in San Francisco Thanks so much You're welcome In a little over a month the country of Barbados is set to become a republic some 55 years after it gained independence from the United Kingdom For the last few months Barbados has shed symbols of its colonial past taking down statues and removing Queen Elizabeth II from the role of head of state Last week Barbados Barbados parliament elected a president dame Sandra mason which means that two women the prime minister and president will lead the country when mason is sworn in next month Here she is speaking last year to the people of Barbados The time has come to fully leave our colonial past behind Barbadians want a barbadian head of state To talk more about what this moment means is Mackie holder consul general of Barbados at New York He joins us now Welcome to all things considered Good afternoon Thank you We're actually speaking to you from Barbados What has the atmosphere been like since this announcement about dame Sandra mason becoming president There's a level of excitement but Barbarians are traditionally very quiet persons We don't really shout a lot But I think it's a good thing for Barbados It's part of our journey to maturity as a nation Especially for a younger generation of barbadians it a new benchmark which says that Barbados is indeed an island nation fully able to govern its own affairs as it has clearly demonstrated over decades Help us understand the role that the UK had in the day to today affairs of the country What has given us is a certain amount of order and stability And now we're at this stage and our progress I want to talk about some of those symbolism in terms of breaking away from a colonial past because earlier this year the statue of lord horatio Nelson was brought down and here in the U.S. confederate statues are being removed in parts of the country as well Do you think that the movement that that's driving that here in the U.S. the Black Lives Matter protest has actually had anything to do with some of the momentum in Barbados I'm not so sure that it has The whole debate on removal statue has been going on for some time And again some things just coalesce And I just think it was pain Do you think that once Barbados is a republic The country will be positioned to maybe have a bigger role in regional or even global politics I don't think it's going to position us less or more At the end of the day Barbados is driven by its people and its leaders we will continue to play important rules on the world stage And in the region I think people just think that if you become a republic that there's going to be some seismic change on some magical thing the truth is though that Barbados has been a solid country a very successful country for centuries And it will continue to be so Maybe in a way that's why I'm asking The country has been successful Things have been going fine Why do you think this move is significant at the end of the day Because I think all countries need to have symbolism These things are important for your psyche for what it says about you as a nation You know that is why countries have heroes That is why countries are so integrated into their sports It is important that these kind of symbolic moves so that for younger generations they see a nation that reflects themselves Why should a barbadian not grow up to know that they have been Barbie Is heroes I was born in Jamaica And I know Jamaica is considering a similar move Saint Lucia St. Vincent have also flirted with the idea do you see a path forward for other countries to follow suit At the Caribbean countries certainly will follow whether that will happen in 6 months in a year Who knows But I spent as we go further into the 21st century That will see some changes in among other countries in the Caribbean as well That is Mackie holder consul general of Barbados thank you so much for speaking with us Thank you for having me.